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Call to order
the Parks Commission for Millersburg and

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uh
how about a roll call?

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» Done.
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» Richardson.
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» Patterson.
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» Withrow.
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» Okay, well, that was fast.

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And uh welcome. Welcome. Uh
This is uh

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August 12th.
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» Okay.
And uh

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we were emailed the minutes and uh
hopefully everybody had a chance to

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peruse them.
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and uh
it are there any um motions to uh

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amend them or anything needs to be
discussed or changed?

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We'll hear a motion to accept them.
>> Second.

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» Okay, it's been uh moved and seconded.
All in favor say I. I. I. All opposed?

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» I.
>> Nope. Okay.

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Looks like the minutes have been uh
approved and looks like uh unfinished

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business is next, but there doesn't seem
to be any, so we're going to move right

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on to new business. The park projects,
uh those that have been completed, in

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progress, and those planned for the rest
of the year and next year.

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And maybe some future park projects and
of course

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the ribbon cutting for
the Consor Linear Park.

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So, Matt, I think it's
>> Not Matt. We're having Andrew drive this

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bus tonight.
>> Andrew, I am so sorry, Andrew.

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» Yeah. Sorry if I get anyone carsick on
the drive. All right.

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So, first uh we haven't uh met since
January, so there's um had to go back in

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time for updates.
We completed the uh park shade structure

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over the playground and Hillsborough
City Park. Uh there's a little picture

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taken by Matt of uh the finished
product. It seems to go on really well.

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We've got a lot of compliments on that
one. Um project was done uh within

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budget as well.
And then uh we also were able to um as a

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planned project paint the interior of
the restrooms, both the

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both facilities or both buildings in
Hillsborough City Park. And then we

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updated the interior signage at the park
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uh show current ordinances and just
update language to be more clear.

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» So, what were those?
>> The the signage?

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» Yeah.
>> I saw some of the signage in the park

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was outdated for old code references.
Some of it wasn't quite clear for park

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rules and stuff like that. So, we
>> City logos?

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» Yeah, or just the shapes were a little
odd or hard to see. So, we updated all

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those to improve them.
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» I don't pay attention to them. I just
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I think And they also have our logos on
them, too, now.

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» I think there was one with a really old
phone number on it, too.

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» Yeah, there was definitely
>> to get some things fixed.

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» Yeah, definitely outdated contact info.
>> want I know I know I know for a fact

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that the restroom painting was not easy.
>> It was not easy. No, it took a

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» I talked to them and the boys down there
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Oh, they got it done, but
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» cuz it's not smooth. It's got bricks
stick out and then the grooves and it

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was hard to paint.
>> Yeah, it took

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» It looks nice, though.
>> Yeah, they did a great job. It took a

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couple coats to to get it down. But,
they did a great job.

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» Looks good.
>> Yeah. Any other questions on these

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before we move on?
Right.

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» Right here.
>> Uh so, next uh project in progress. Oh,

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you have
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» Okay. Um
Transition Parkway is obviously our

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biggest park project going on. Um
we are kind of they're doing some uh

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cleanup and just punch list items to
close up like things that need to be uh

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addressed, small items. Uh we are
waiting for Pacific Power to

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uh get us power to the park uh for
irrigation and lighting, which has kind

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of put a little bit of stuff on hold,
but that's supposed to be happening on

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the 19th to the 26th. And then after
that, they will um test those items and

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get things
uh the grass seeded and irrigation

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running and it should be great. So.
>> Will it will the contractors or the

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landscapers replace all the dead trees?
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that. So, we had our weekly construction
meeting today and they have just asked

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that they can
postpone replanting those trees until

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September for a more ideal planting
season. And that was fine. So,

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yeah.
>> They don't grow without water.

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» Well, that
we That was a discussion, too.

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But they are all of those
um we don't pay for the extra trees.

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They're all uh expected to you need a
plant them and have them establish and

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there's a 2-year warranty period on
that. So,

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uh and then the North Ball Field
drainage uh project should be starting

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pretty soon. It's a two uh two projects
uh to address the drainage out here. One

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is to install subsurface drainage pipes
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um that'll help
get water out of that field um

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that usually sits there for a long
period of time and then we will be uh

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regrading and putting in new material
for the baseball infield to bring that

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up to
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» pre-equivalent standard of baseball.
>> see the outline, is that where the

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drainage goes?
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we'll have that area basically fenced
off and yeah, the drainage will be in

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that general area.
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» It goes south. Um so, we currently have
subsurface drainage in the south field,

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which is why it is noticeably different.
Correct. Yeah, so that's why it's

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noticeably different uh between the two
fields on when you can play on them.

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» I know Lake Miller Lake Miller's Park
was quite quite nice last summer.

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» It's a bit of a swamp uh through
May, June.

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So, this
uh so, the goal of this is one to make

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uh make it so that we can start
maintenance activities on it much sooner

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in the year, which would help uh upkeep
on the park and also it'd be more usable

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through the
sports activities.

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» Yeah.
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» Yeah, I've seen the the the North Ball
Field being used this year way more than

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the last six that I've been around.
>> Yeah. I am excited for that field to be

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in really good shape and the softball
field team to reserve it again and have

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the nicer field.
>> South one needs maintenance right now

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pretty bad.
>> Uh any other questions on those?

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All right.
>> I I I have one. Yeah.

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» Yes, sure.
>> When you do this

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my my sidewalk that I asked for
from the east side all the way out, is

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that
in there someplace?

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» Um are you talking about connecting from
the um playground to the multi-use path?

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» Yeah, right by the playground, right
on the right side. You go over there

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instead of having to go all the way over
to the maintenance building to go out to

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the highway without going through the
grass.

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» Well, let's move to the next slide and
we'll see it.

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Uh I don't have a picture of that, but
it's the next bullet point, the

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Millageville City Park path connection.
Right there, that's Chuck described.

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Um it will connect the end of the I
guess I can show it on here, the

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um
end of the playground

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uh bottom part right there uh where the
sidewalk currently ends and connect to

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the multi-use path right there. So,
uh yeah, we won't have

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» It'd be really nice cuz I
I see a lot of people in the morning cut

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across there, three or four couples, cuz
they come from Umqua

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and down in there instead of going clear
up to the parking lot and come in and

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they just
it's no big deal, you know, but

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» Yeah, but it gives them a path.
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» And it's also for ADA consideration.
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it was still on the plan.
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in a RFQ process and we're getting
quotes back right now, so built this

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year.
>> Thank you.

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» And then as well, there's also a
additional bench being installed um in

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that contract as well. Cool. So,
there's that and then the other thing uh

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that will be happening
probably late next week or the week

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after will we got our Concert Linear
Park name signs. There'll be one

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installed on each end of the park. And
they should be

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kind of adding a nice touch to
to the park.

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» That wasn't so hard to name that park
after all, was it?

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» No.
That's a Yeah. So, it kind of like this,

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and it kind of maybe sets a
little bit of a standard for

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park name signs, too.
>> I I just want to say that that park I

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really like the design of that park. It
is so nice. Congratulations.

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» Oh, yeah. That was a lot of a lot of
Janelle on

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» Well, it was a lot of people.
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» that I'm glad you like it.
I'm glad there's something

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» I love it. I think it's cool.
>> All right. Uh I'm going to throw it over

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to Matt for future park projects.
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» first items.
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have slides for these, um but uh the
first one is our pickleball courts that

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we've talked about. We are
planning on I can get you a picture of

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that.

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Most of the costs that would cover
Whoop.

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I don't know.

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» That'd be nice.
>> That's it.

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It's like a baseball park home.
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» There you go.
All right.

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So, we uh we had the three pickleball
courts that you see here on the screen

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go through our land use process. That
was a requirement in order to get the

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grant, and so we had to go through the
land use process that got approved.

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That's done.
Uh then we applied for the grant. Um

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uh everything was submitted, and we're
planning on hearing back about that

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grant in September.
The grant was for $100,000

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towards the the construction of this,
and we have it budgeted at 150 and so

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that funding is in the budget even if we
didn't get the grant we could move

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forward with construction but we're
holding pretty high hopes that we're

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going to get that grant and then that'll
put a lot less burden on

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the
allocation we had budgeted for it.

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» Who did you apply where?
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» OPRD?
>> Oregon Parks and Recreation, yeah.

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Yep, their local governments grant.
Yep. So we'll be hearing back on that

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soon.
Any questions on that? It might not be

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three by the time it's all said and
done. It might be two but

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we're
we're working on that still.

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Any questions on that?
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» Okay.
>> The only other future project I wanted

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to talk about was our North Park and I
just wanted to give you an update on

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where we are with that. Right now we're
just waiting for the city to have enough

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funding
in in the account to do a grants match

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for the construction of it and we're
slowly building that up.

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It's coming from our system development
charges that are coming in.

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We've got a couple of new developers
sniffing around about potentially large

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amount of homes coming in the city. If
that happens that'll probably help us

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fill that up pretty quick so we'll see
what happens but right now we're just

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waiting for that fund balance to get
high enough for us to actually make the

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grant match.
So it's just waiting.

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» Okay.
>> Any questions on North Park?

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» The um
project is the splash pad. That's

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planned to be in Millersburg City Park.
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have some I guess I'd like some feedback
potentially if you have any

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just to help us because
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splash pads can be uh scaled up or down
fairly dramatically on what you get and

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the type of themes that you have or how
they look

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um and it'd be great to get a little bit
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general direction. We're not going to
design it here tonight at all, but

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um you know, we can get a feel for what
you guys would be interested in, what

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you think the kids would be interested
in, if you have grandkids or kids that

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like that stuff. So.
>> Well, I will say leave.

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Now, I have a question.
>> No, yeah.

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» Is this going to be a continuous water
use park where we have a

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big
or is it going to be recycled in a

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» Great question. So, we've looked at most
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possibilities already. Um so,
recirculating water presents a pretty

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big challenge as far as all the
regulations and rules on it that would

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be
a lot of cost for staffing and just

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continuous maintenance and everything.
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recommended against doing that as well
because of that. So, we're going towards

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just a through system, but it would be a
button activated one, so it's not

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continuously running and just using
water constantly. It would be activated

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by a button.
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» Yep. So, it's uh it
it'll only be running water when it's

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being used. Yeah.
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and that it does turn out to be the uh
much more cost effective option as well.

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» How much budget do you have for it?
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» We Well, this year we budgeted 50,000
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And that will help us determine what the
budget should be for construction. We do

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have an amount in the the capital
improvement plan from last year.

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» It's a 20,000.
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» Yeah.
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» cost of construction.
>> not yet budgeted or programmed, yet.

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That's just
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What I've learned over the last few
months about splash pads is you could be

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There's a minimum that you would
probably spend, right? But you can

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basically build like a small water park
if you wanted to. But I don't think

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that's the intention of what we're doing
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Is there
>> I had a quick question. Is that

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something that requires uh
a safety person to be

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» So
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» Um if we had the recirculating water
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someone there monitoring for if there
was an issue with like a contamination

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issue with the water, something like
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» And I suppose the uh
the button to push to start the

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water going, it must be on a timer, I
guess, right?

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» it would be and they can program it for
>> Well, we'll find You can program it to

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turn off at
I don't know, a certain time

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» Right, and not to be active kids over
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» midnight and
Well, adults, maybe, but not the kids.

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» Yeah, I know where to find you at 1:00
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Yeah. So, we'll go over a few ideas,
just a basic overview of just some just

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a real condensed version, and then kind
of maybe get some feedback. But we went

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over a lot of different designs. These
are some of the ones that we looked at.

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We looked many, many different ones,
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And we talked to quite a few different

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vendors. So, and they basically
presented us with an abundance of

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options. We kind of boiled those down to
some to present to you, but we're not

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going to necessarily pick any of these
options whatsoever. It's just They're

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just to help us guide this conversation,
if that makes sense.

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Um and none of these concepts cost us
anything. They

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They're part of their sales and
everything. So,

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this
this is kind of like uh

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we're looking for something that's going
to be roughly in

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the
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area of like 800 to 1,500 square feet.
It's going to be a smaller splash pad,

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uh which we think fits our park pretty
well. Um

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uh this one has quite a few vertical
features that you can see right here.

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The total cost of this one would be
about $230,000. Now, and obviously,

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taking away a single piece or adding a
single piece changes that

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quite a bit. Um one thing that we do
want to consider, too, is the water

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usage of the different pieces, as well.
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» Well, what about maintenance? Like
cleaning and

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and
upkeep and

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» Yes.
>> that kind of thing.

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» That's something we want to consider,
too, for every piece. Yeah.

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» So, are there projections of what each
scenario would cost for maintenance and

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» To a degree. Yeah, we have um some
numbers from Albany on their splash pad,

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and then we have some numbers from City
of Salem, as well.

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So, and they have different types of
splash pad areas for their ongoing

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costs. They're actually It's
surprisingly not

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not very much.
>> Oh, okay.

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» It's mostly the water.
>> Okay.

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And do you see there
uh are there any general

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takeaways from like
this one has a lot of vertical pieces.

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» Right.
>> Does this style have more maintenance

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costs than maybe ones I don't know what
you have in your presentation, but that

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are more
>> Yeah.

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» like lower, you know, like
>> Yeah, I can touch on that. Yeah,

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typically, the more vertical options,
and let's say ones that have more areas

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for water to come out, do take a little
bit more maintenance. It's not a

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significant change, though, according to
the three people that we talked to from

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different companies, but they the
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overall for the bigger features, and
then the initial cost to

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to buy them. So, obviously, if something
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that would be the most significant.
>> So, do you maintain all your parks, and

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would this fit part of their scope or
their

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their work?
>> It would It would

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um be something for them to
add to the list of things that they uh

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keep up on. It would be a seasonal
feature. And at least that's what I

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would plan on.
>> I mean, definitely want to drain it in

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wintertime.
It does freeze here once in a while.

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» Yeah.
>> You know, while we're talking about

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this, it's probably a good time to uh
let you folks know we also kind of

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skipped over this one. Since January, we
have hired a third maintenance worker

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full-time
for the city of Millersburg as well as

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we're ramping up our recreational
features here in the city.

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» It took a little work to get it done,
but it got done.

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» Since Since you met in January, but it
happened last week.

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah, it's pretty fast, pretty new.

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» Yeah.
Yeah, we're

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» I mean, it was 6:40 in the morning.
I'm going to work.

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And I'm walking the dog.
>> Yes. Yes. So, you'll see him around. Um

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okay. So, and
we'll just go through these. We won't

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spend too much time, but I do want to
get a general idea. This one is more of

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just a in-ground um
feature. This is very similar to what

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you'd see at Maqee's Park that was just
built in downtown Albany. Uh this one

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has more um
features to it. It has the push button

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in the corner. Um it has some rock
features, and I did ask Albany about how

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things go for
if they've heard of injuries or anything

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going on with their splash pad, but and
they said that

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there's been nothing significant that
they've had reported.

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» like the walls and
>> Well, yeah. I think that's feedback.

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That's
um

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» I I like that bath. Simple.
>> Right.

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» And it works.
>> Without the rocks.

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» Without the rocks.
>> Yes.

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» They got a playground right there if
they want to climb on something.

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» Yeah, the playground's right there.
>> Yeah, is that because of safety

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concerns, rocks?
>> Yeah, kind of. Yeah.

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» Yeah. And this example
>> I have this last night in your parking

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lot right there.
>> Oh, no.

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» Was that from climbing on the rocks?
>> No, going out of that damn sidewalk with

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a dog.
>> Oh.

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» Oh.
>> Yeah.

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» I went down, boom.
>> Well, good. You're okay.

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» Right right
>> Go figure.

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» Um but this one right here, it's all in
ground. It The estimate for this one is

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around 150,000, but it does it is 1,900
sq ft, which is shown, which is bigger

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than what we would put in, so you can
scale that

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appropriately.
>> They can The object of this thing is

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just to go
when it's warm, like it's been just to

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go cool down, get wet,
go home. You know, it doesn't have to be

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» Oh, I know. I just want to make sure
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» They're only showing everything.
>> I'm just saying simple is

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» So
>> Simple works.

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» So this one has vertical features, but
they're pretty minimal. Um

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it just has a couple things uh here, and
it but it does increase. This one though

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is about twice the size in the estimate
that we were given was 20 240,000.

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This one's the same price with
more uh slightly smaller footprint, but

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with one large feature with the bucket.
>> I like the bucket.

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» You like the bucket? They have one of
those I saw at uh Sun River. It's good.

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Yeah, my kid did not like that one after
he got hit.

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Um and then this one is the smallest one
that we were shown um by another vendor.

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It's about 200,000 because it does have
quite a lot of features going on, but

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they did uh emphasize to us that you
could take things away

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um
make it more affordable. So here's some

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ideas too they I we had like
Some of them offer different themes or

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like different like if you had wanted
all in ground and then one feature that

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stuck stuck up, they have like some kind
of the water tower. I we put the water

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tower and the horse one there cuz we
thought those ones were kind of fun, but

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they have different themes, animals,
nature, sports, sea, you know, you could

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do there is basically a theme for any
everything. I wasn't going to put

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everything in here.
Um

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just kind of depending um
if you wanted to go with something more

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than just an in ground
feature. Uh I wouldn't recommend the

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fire hydrant because of the dogs in the
park, but

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Um you can
>> any vertical thing. Could be any

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» You know, to to the point. Um I did and
this is so obviously there's things that

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I kind of thought of just from having
kids I kind of use these things, but my

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kids are different than other kids, so
keep that in mind, but I thought that

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they
the uh little circle thing with the

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sprays there would probably be something
they'd enjoy running through. Um

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and then also in the bottom corner here
we have ones that incorporate light as

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well.
Uh I don't know how much that would get

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used though cuz kids will probably be
out in the day, but if you wanted it to

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secondary act as kind of like a evening
kind of visual feature, aesthetic

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feature, that's an option as well.
>> It's not Vegas.

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» So, yeah, it kind of gave us weird look.
So, that was

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too far.
Get back. Get back. Okay. So, that was

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just kind of an idea, general overview.
These are some general prices too just

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to give you I wanted to show the price
so you could see how much these vary

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and it varies quite a bit even vendor to
vendor.

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So.
>> So, what is the age that you see age of

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the kids?
>> a great question for you guys.

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» I mean, is it
is it is it representative of the

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demographic that we have in Millersberg
or

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» Well, an interesting thing about that is
that changes pretty quickly when the

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kids are little, right? There was a
period where we had a lot of really

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young kids a few years ago. I don't know
if that's still true because ones who

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were that age, you know, would be in
elementary school now at the time. Uh

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so, I don't know if we know that. That's
been an interesting thing. We could look

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at our census data, but I don't know how
much it breaks it down.

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» Yeah.
>> Do you ask

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» It maybe it might be outdated, too, cuz
they do it every 10 years. So, you might

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be able to get something out of PSU.
>> Do you ask that because

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» I'm just wondering what
Yeah, I'm just thinking uh

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what uh how young your kids are you
thinking about that would use this? And

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is there anything for the older kids
like middle school kids?

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» Right, cuz older kids would probably
want the bigger ones.

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» different things, yeah.
>> Yeah, I agree.

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» Having having some small areas like a
like an area for smaller kids where it

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just has like little bubblers and
smaller ones, and then having like one

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or two larger features. So, it kind of
brings people in kids in it from

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different ages, and the bigger kids
won't feel like oh, this is boring. It's

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a sprinkler.
So.

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» Oh.
It's right.

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So, maybe more than just the in-ground.
Maybe one maybe a feature or two which

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» a feature or two of the of larger upper
the bigger ones.

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» And no rocks.
>> No rocks.

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» No rocks, yeah.
>> I don't I'm not one of the fans of that.

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» The features you can aim either.
>> No features you can aim. Yeah, there

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were quite a few of those options. I
also was not big on those.

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» I wouldn't recommend.
>> Can I ask a clarifying question about

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the idea of rocks? Not within the splash
pad area, but around the outside, it's

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always great for parents and clothes and
towels and whatever you have things to

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sit on. Um, would you be comfortable
with them in that setting? Um, it's

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going to be a lot lower maintenance than
benches and things like that. They're

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getting wet constantly.
>> I just worry about

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cracking heads, taking, you know,
slipping you on it and uh

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» So, more so not in the water area.
>> Yeah, and uh you know, they get slick

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with water on them and then they wear. A
rock does wear and with time and um

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I mean, I would I I
I delivered newspapers for five and a

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half years from 12 to 17, 18 years old.
Never wore a helmet, never had a

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nothing, rode my bike, never had a
problem. Now, I can't even go any place

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without a helmet and then talking.
>> But, I think regardless of what we put

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out there, whether it's benches or
rocks, you know, kids are going to jump

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off of it. They're going to
They're going to climb on it.

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It's It's just the nature of children,
but it would be nice to have something,

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whether it's a a rock or just a block of
some sort for for people to sit on and

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put their things on so they're not
sitting on the ground. That I think that

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would be I think that would be nice.
>> You know, the benches that Randy's

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putting in down there right now with the
new plastic wood on them, you know,

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you know, they're probably cheaper than
putting in a rock wall.

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» They might be.
>> Yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know. It's just ideas. That's
what you're asking for.

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» Yeah. No, this is exactly what I was
thinking.

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» But, this one it actually has like a
like a a perimeter.

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» Yes.
>> A raised perimeter. That would be a

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That would be nice.
>> Yeah, but you know,

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» the parents are going to want to pay
attention and supervise their kids.

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» But, it's simple, clean, and no extra
edges.

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» Hopefully.
>> So, that's the way so the kids can't

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splash you.
>> A parent's going to watch our kid,

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right? Yeah.
Okay. Uh was there any type So, the

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00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:43,960
in-ground ones obviously there's no
theme to those, you know, like there's

430
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:49,120
just where you place them and um
if we were to do

431
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:53,200
maybe a small section that could
help cater to like some of the older

432
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:56,680
kids. Is there like a theme or like a
type of feature that'd be

433
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,720
preferred?
>> You can You can have a dump, you know,

434
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,680
with the buckets to this, you know. I
mean, it you know

435
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,920
something like that.
>> There was another bucket one where it

436
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,520
was like multiples where they were
rolling different times.

437
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,800
» Pick that one. Multiple buckets.
>> Yep. Something like that that goes a

438
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,440
little higher.
>> Yeah, and I think this one specifically

439
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:20,280
and it depends on the bucket. Some of
them you got to have certain size splash

440
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,800
pad that was too big for the one we were
looking at, but this one is for a

441
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,920
smaller one, so that could be
something like that.

442
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,720
» Just something. It doesn't have to be
the whole thing for larger kids, but it

443
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,160
gives them something to do.
>> Right.

444
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,320
» Or parents.
>> Are these

445
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,760
» Um
>> splash pads going to be cushioned? Is

446
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,880
that what they are?
>> Um

447
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:43,400
» Is it so concrete?
>> Yeah, so we did a lot of looking into

448
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:47,760
that cuz you can do a rubberized surface
as well. Um

449
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:52,040
and
the consensus seems to be do not use the

450
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:56,800
rubberized surface um because kids like
to pick at it.

451
00:33:53,440 --> 00:34:01,400
It wears out significantly quicker and
um

452
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:05,920
like the city of Salem, um Albany,
everyone has basically said that if you

453
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:09,040
broom finish it well, it has plenty of
traction. Kids have It's not a slipping

454
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,000
issue.
Um

455
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,760
and just the maintenance cost is alone
is

456
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,600
a huge barrier.
>> And And you don't have it turned on the

457
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:22,840
whole year. It You wait until a certain
time where it starts getting warmer to

458
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,879
turn it on anyways.
>> Yeah.

459
00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:27,240
» So.
>> Yeah, and and another thing with the

460
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:30,879
rubberized surface is it's not super
friendly to Oregon's climate.

461
00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:36,000
So, they they work much better in a
drier climate.

462
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:40,679
» Are any of these um
water features interchangeable? I mean,

463
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:45,320
sometimes you know, once you put things
in, you're stuck with it. Can they be

464
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:50,320
changed out and updated? Or how do you
how easy is that to do so you don't stay

465
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:54,120
with the same theme
for eternity? You know, sometimes these

466
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:56,720
things get
>> Yep.

467
00:34:54,919 --> 00:34:59,880
» They you know, especially the trendy
sort of things, they kind of wear out

468
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,600
and wear out.
>> So, um

469
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:08,360
I did talk about that.
One of the vendors said that you can

470
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:14,760
swap them out. It's Now, you can't swap
out a in-ground sprayer for a tower

471
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:20,520
because the amount of water that feeds
to it is just so dramatically different.

472
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:24,440
But, in general, you can do like ones.
You can swap like in-ground

473
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:30,680
one that does like, you know, that goes
360 to directional um

474
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:35,080
a small tower one that uses, you know,
50 gallons per minute for another one

475
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,760
that does about the same.
>> I was just thinking that if something

476
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,880
gets broken and then what?
>> Right.

477
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,320
» So, you have to replace it with
something.

478
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,920
» Right, and they may not make it. So.
>> What's the What's the you know,

479
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:50,240
approximate
maintenance cost to maintain

480
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:54,760
» Oh.
I have that, but not in the

481
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,960
presentation. Um
I can pull it up.

482
00:35:56,240 --> 00:36:02,680
» Just curious.
>> Yeah, I can pull it up after uh

483
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,960
Yes. It I want to say
>> It's pretty low.

484
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:09,520
» I'd have to go through my
>> will depend on the features, how big it

485
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,960
is, what what extra things we have in it
and that will that will make a

486
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,960
difference of as far as
>> Yeah. The

487
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:18,600
» upkeep.
>> The biggest cost of um

488
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,600
upkeep with or of ongoing cost was the
water.

489
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,280
» Water.
>> Um so, it's seasonal and it really

490
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,960
depends on how many features you have.
What are you looking

491
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,640
» Is it
somewhat accurate to say that it I mean

492
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,360
depending on what you do, but if you
have a concrete surface, you're

493
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:37,720
maintaining a concrete surface like all
the other concrete surfaces we have.

494
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,720
The

495
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:44,360
water is not too dissimilar to our
irrigation system, you know. Yes,

496
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,800
you know, we are maintaining those
things right now. Yes, it's a little

497
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,760
different depending on what the features
are, but those are similar to playground

498
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,320
equipment. So, I don't think this is
much different and I don't think it's

499
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:58,600
like
>> maybe that's I didn't clarify that. It's

500
00:36:55,720 --> 00:37:03,800
not going to be a huge burden on on
staff to take this on. Here, we have a

501
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:06,640
regular inspections of the park
throughout like for all the features and

502
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,640
everything. This will be added into
that. Obviously, when things stop

503
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,120
working, we'd have to fix them, but
that's not a ongoing

504
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,040
» And it's not going to be going all the
time anyways. You have to walk up and

505
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,120
hit the button to make it
>> difficult.

506
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:18,920
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, it doesn't just run like a

507
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,120
fountain.
>> Right.

508
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,160
» Leaf blower and a power sprayer, that's
about it.

509
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,080
» That's That is what
>> Yeah.

510
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,160
» other cities basically said they they
uses.

511
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,840
» Yeah.
>> A broom, leaf blower,

512
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:35,320
» Do they have a
They must have some sort of a

513
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:39,720
guarantee or
five-year warranty or

514
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:43,040
» Oh, yeah, they all do. Yeah.
Yeah, they vary depending on the vendor

515
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:48,200
and everything. And
>> And would the pump

516
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:51,840
pump house or whatever be located in the
uh

517
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:55,760
uh maintenance
building over there?

518
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,960
» Where's this going to be located?
>> We haven't determined that fully yet cuz

519
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,960
we have to
There There's a lot of different things

520
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:09,520
to weigh out um as far as where is the
location that would work for park users,

521
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:14,840
what is going to be affordable from a
utility connection standpoint and

522
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:20,800
you know, impacting existing features
and topography. So, we have a few

523
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:25,560
locations preliminary like
kind of identified as possibilities, but

524
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,440
we definitely have to take a closer look
into

525
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,200
» Cuz I know there was one talk about
doing it where the the little fire

526
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,920
station was. Like right so they could
use parking that was here.

527
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,160
» Oh, I think that decision
>> Oh.

528
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,280
» was made that it would be in the park.
>> Yeah, this will be in in Millersville

529
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,080
City Park.
>> Oh, in the

530
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,640
» Yes.
>> Okay.

531
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:46,560
» Yeah, it's just where the park that we
want to put it. Yeah, we won't because

532
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,600
there we have a decent amount of
existing features that we need to

533
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:53,120
consider as well and
how the kids are going to get there,

534
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:56,800
what's near them, you know, interacting
with them.

535
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,600
» I think for this kind of investment and
what it is, it we don't want to feel

536
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:04,280
like a shoehorned in somewhere as an
afterthought. Like it should it should

537
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,400
be its own space and so that
may take a little bit of thinking

538
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,480
with the existing park.
>> And it got to be close to a restroom,

539
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,280
too.
>> That's definitely a consideration.

540
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,560
» The south the south one right there
where the loop goes around by the that

541
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,320
perfect little area.
>> That that is one of the

542
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,560
» mind, that's where I would put
>> That is one of the spots that we are

543
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,360
considering. Yeah.
>> Cuz there was talk about moving the

544
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:27,880
maintenance shed
or maintenance shop to a different

545
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:32,480
location to give them more parking
>> And we have we have a lot

546
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:34,000
guys land, you know.
>> I don't know.

547
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,880
» Cuz they're ready to move.
>> Oh, that.

548
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,480
» Oh.
>> Yeah.

549
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:42,880
Yeah, I mean that the plan is to move
the maintenance facility, well, not the

550
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:47,600
facility the building actually will
probably stay. But the operations out of

551
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,880
the park into different location which
has not been determined.

552
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:55,000
And um and that would open up more space
because of the we still need some

553
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,000
storage, probably keep the building for
that, but

554
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,480
the outside, you know, the additional
parking area back there.

555
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:04,240
Um
>> Yeah. They still need it cuz they need

556
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:08,040
to still maintain this park.
So, I think I have enough feedback

557
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,680
unless anything you want to share
anything else. I think this has been

558
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:12,120
great.
>> I think it's a great idea.

559
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,520
» Yeah.
Well, I'm glad everyone's talking.

560
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,160
» I just think
I just think basic is

561
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,480
Yeah.
Fundamentally feasible.

562
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:26,280
» Yeah.
>> With maybe

563
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:30,600
something extra put in that.
140, 150, better than 220.

564
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,480
» Yeah.
>> That's fine, yeah.

565
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:39,080
» No, that sounds great. Thank you for the
feedback, I appreciate it. Uh it'll help

566
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:42,200
us move forward with the something that
you guys are all right thinking about,

567
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,360
so
>> You'll hear more again.

568
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:47,720
» Yes. Yeah, it won't get built between
now and the next meeting.

569
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:52,160
So
>> So how far how what is what is your

570
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:57,720
timelines for this? For your projected
ideal timeline for having something

571
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:01,200
for the kiddos to use?
>> Well, based on how we

572
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:05,680
planned this out with the last budget
season cycle, um

573
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:09,920
this fiscal year we budgeted for
planning and design. And so the earliest

574
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,960
we would be looking to start building
something would be next summer.

575
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,480
» Right.
>> Yeah, depending on the summer.

576
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:20,680
» Um so it'll probably be ready for the
su- the summer after.

577
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:25,200
» We also may, again, want to look at
other grants. You know, that could that

578
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:29,200
could uh influence timing if there's
something coming up that's available, so

579
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,200
» Yeah. Even if we somehow got a big
grant, we'd still keep it

580
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,880
simple.
We don't have to do a water park.

581
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:43,280
» Herbal or whatever. Up to a billion
dollars, go play it. We got the money.

582
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:46,160
» All right. Uh and to the next item, I
think this is you.

583
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:50,840
» Yeah, I was just going to talk about
this, although there's not a lot to say

584
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:54,760
yet. As Andrew already explained what
we're waiting on for the park. So

585
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,840
we
are not going to pick a date until we

586
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:02,000
have a little more certainty on when
that grass is going to get planted. I

587
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:06,960
think that's the key. It'll be It's
probably going to be late September,

588
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:09,120
early October is the is the plan. Um
>> For the circle?

589
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:14,120
» For the circle, for the ribbon cutting.
Yeah. And it because of the nature of

590
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:18,160
the park, I mean, you know, it's closed.
It is technically closed.

591
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:23,360
Um but it's really difficult to keep
people out of it. And so, we will open

592
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:26,280
it as soon as we are able to open it.
This ribbon-cutting ceremony will

593
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:30,560
follow.
So,

594
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,600
question for all of you, there hasn't
been a lot of thought put into the

595
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:37,240
ribbon-cutting ceremony yet except
cutting a ribbon and the mayor will

596
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:41,440
probably say some words. Uh do you have
any suggestions for what you would want

597
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,640
to see in something?
>> Lynn has a suggestion.

598
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:48,640
» It's nice.
Banjos. Hear banjos.

599
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:52,680
» Not banjos.
Those are apparently abhorrent of

600
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:55,920
banjos. Shame on you for saying banjos.
>> wait.

601
00:42:53,520 --> 00:43:03,280
I can't wait to just have it open fresh
and the progression on the

602
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:06,840
woods sidewalks put in. That would give
me

603
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:09,880
really neat walking
excursion because I, you know,

604
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,200
» Yeah, that's the goal.
>> Yeah, I want to walk out there, but I

605
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,120
don't want to walk down woods without
sidewalk.

606
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,800
» Right.
>> So, you know,

607
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:23,760
» a lot of people do.
>> I know, and I'm always riding my bicycle

608
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:27,600
out there, you know, going on evening
rides.

609
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:33,040
» Yes, well, you know, 45 and
no bike lane and no walkway,

610
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:37,960
you're a brave man.
>> So, quick on that, I guess, just because

611
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:41,800
it's not a it's more of a transportation
project than a parks project, but it's

612
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:44,600
still Yeah, it's pathways. Um
>> Yeah.

613
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:47,280
» That is moving forward. The goal would
be to be in construction next summer.

614
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:53,920
» Yep.
>> Um we do have it phased into two pieces.

615
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:57,920
And it will probably depend on the
construction prices and potential

616
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:01,240
grants, that sort of thing,
um

617
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:05,120
whether we can award both phases at once
or if we have to start with one and then

618
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,840
do the second. So,
just that's where we're at with that

619
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,440
project.
>> Design is very far along, though.

620
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:14,440
Yeah.
>> I know it's not parks, but are the

621
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,920
farmers coming around?
And the people that own the land, are

622
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,760
they
>> Oh.

623
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:24,760
We're We're still in the process.
Unfortunately, that's a slow process.

624
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:28,440
» Been there, done that. Okay.
>> As far as the ribbon cutting, do you

625
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:33,200
have any ideas, or has any ideas been
pushed toward the city about what other

626
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,600
things we could do just besides cutting
the ribbon and key words?

627
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,520
» Yeah.
>> Um

628
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:43,520
Not Nothing concrete. So, that's why I
was asking if you have ideas, feel free

629
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,480
to share them. That's
>> My idea is have have a ribbon cutting

630
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,200
and have a walk.
>> Yeah.

631
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,400
» Walk up there and come back down the
other side.

632
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,840
» I think there was some thought to maybe
have the ribbon cutting at this first

633
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,360
plaza.
>> Yeah.

634
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,360
» And then, yeah, we could do whoever
wants to walk.

635
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,680
» Walk out there and then come back the
other side, you know.

636
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,760
» Sure could.
>> I think, yeah.

637
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:06,960
» Well, South Albany could practice their
marching band.

638
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,120
Up and down. That'd be fun.
>> I'd have a marching band at the ribbon

639
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:13,560
cutting ceremony.
>> Yeah, that'd be great.

640
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:18,160
» Well, you know, they're getting ready
for

641
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:24,200
uh the
parade.

642
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:26,920
Get the cheerleaders out, and come on.
>> Do you have any budget for this?

643
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:30,640
» No.
>> No.

644
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:35,840
» Well, the sky's the limit.
I mean, at

645
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:39,640
the most similar thing we've done in
recent years was the fire station

646
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:43,440
opening, which was a hose decoupling.
It's what they do for fire stations.

647
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:47,680
And there was
There were some words said by multiple

648
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:52,840
people. There were some refreshments. I
think it was cupcakes and drinks.

649
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,600
» foity-toity cookies.
>> Oh, cookies. It was cookies.

650
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,520
» From
>> Yeah, that's right.

651
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,320
» From From
>> Were they crumble cookies? I can't

652
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,880
remember now what all we did.
Yeah.

653
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,200
» That's the only time I ever go to
forward.

654
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:11,720
» Well, if you came to it, I'm sure you
remember what the food was. So, and and

655
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:16,000
then of course at that one, people had
the opportunity to tour the station.

656
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,840
But,
we could as was mentioned, we could tour

657
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:23,440
the path.
So, we could have some food involved.

658
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:26,760
It's a little It's outdoors. Might be
maybe we'll set up a tent cuz we do have

659
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:30,600
city tents that
would be available and it'll be a little

660
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:34,520
bit weather dependent.
that time we should still be good.

661
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:37,240
That's the goal to get it done to do it
while the weather's still nice. But,

662
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:41,400
we'd really like the grass to be
starting to grow a little bit and not

663
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:47,360
all dirt out there.
>> You know, the ball over here they

664
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:50,680
planted those trees and put in grass and
seem like gosh, it's ready to mow in 2

665
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:55,080
weeks easily.
>> Yeah. The long the highway down there

666
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:57,480
it's that high already.
>> So, if they seeded it really in

667
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:00,080
September, we
think it would.

668
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:05,480
» Oh, it would be. Yeah.
>> So, would this be have to be coordinated

669
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:08,280
with Ball when they do their menu Are
they going to do an open open house or

670
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,880
menu
grand opening or ribbon cutting or

671
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:16,040
anything?
>> Ball is planning to do some sort of

672
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:18,960
celebration of opening. It'll be after
the fact. It'll probably be first

673
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:23,760
quarter of next year and they have they
have a lot of their PR person has been

674
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:26,160
in touch about this and
they are really going to limit it to

675
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:29,240
people who are involved in the project
because that's such a huge number of

676
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,760
people already.
But, if there are people who want to do

677
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:39,000
tours of the plant, that can be arranged
it separately at other times. They will

678
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:42,920
» Cuz they gave out stress stress balls at
the

679
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:45,240
business extravaganza.
>> They did.

680
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,320
Yeah, so I don't think there will be any
conflicts or need to coordinate anything

681
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:53,480
between our ribbon cutting and anything
they're doing cuz we're really going to

682
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:57,880
be up here on the you know, other side
of the the road.

683
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,160
And I know we have some folks who have
been involved in our project who really

684
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:04,200
want to be a part of this.
Put a lot into the design and overseeing

685
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:09,800
construction and
of course city folks as well council.

686
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:13,120
» Each area is right.
Here

687
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:17,200
and up here
where they put in a lot of trees.

688
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,520
» Those trees will not be replaced.
>> The ones that died.

689
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,320
» not be replaced.
Well, they shouldn't have to be because

690
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,360
uh
those are pretty wet areas.

691
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,720
» Yeah.
>> They are.

692
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,600
» So.
>> Those are the storm water facilities

693
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,400
that treat the water from the road.
>> Yeah.

694
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:35,600
» And yeah.
>> I've gone by it and looked at them.

695
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:41,200
» Yeah, they'll be replaced with gloves.
>> The place of I really want to tour when

696
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,840
it gets open is Timber Timber
>> Timber Lab.

697
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:48,120
» Timber Lab.
That's I I want to see that I've been to

698
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:51,960
PDX. I've seen what they've done there
and Ray took me out there and I looked

699
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:55,080
at their light poles.
>> Well, those are If you guys haven't seen

700
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,080
their light poles, they're all
>> Timber Lab.

701
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,320
» Yeah. Oh, really?
>> Yeah.

702
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,880
» It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool in
there.

703
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:05,560
» Yeah, I had I love I would see how they
do that, you know.

704
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:09,360
» Yeah, I would watch for watch for
something to come out. They Timber Lab

705
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:14,360
does like to celebrate their milestones
and I would guess they'll do something

706
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:18,240
um as well that will be relatively open,
but we'll wait and see what they

707
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:21,800
» Well, they're good about recycling wood
and stuff like that. That's what I like.

708
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:28,120
» Yeah.
I've got one more little thing that's

709
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:31,920
not on a slide, but just wanted to
remind you all or let you all know. You

710
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:36,000
probably don't know yet. There will be a
volunteer appreciation event on October

711
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:40,440
» October again?
>> Volunteer appreciation event here at

712
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,040
City Hall. We did it last year.
>> Last year, yeah.

713
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:47,200
» Yep, the first one. So, we're going to
do it again this year. It'll be October

714
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:50,920
7th at 5:30 and you will receive an
invitation, but I'm just giving you a

715
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,800
heads up to put on your calendar.
>> That was fun.

716
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,440
Cool.

717
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:07,680
» Okay, well then Mr. Chair, we'll give
the meeting back over to you.

718
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:11,120
» All right. Well, it says
that we have our next meeting on October

719
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:16,760
20th.
I already put it on my calendar. So, I

720
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:19,560
guess it's in stone.
>> Love it.

721
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:22,120
» Works for me. And uh
Do you guys

722
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:25,280
» still be here?
Yeah. Stick around to Halloween.

723
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:30,040
» I'll be here for that one. The next one
I'll probably be on Zoom.

724
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:34,400
» Okay. We can make that happen.
>> Matt says I can do it, so I'm okay.

725
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,080
Well, I'll have to learn.
>> As long as you've got internet.

726
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,560
» Huh?
>> As long as you've got internet access.

727
00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:43,080
» Oh, I've got internet at the park.
>> Okay.

728
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:49,080
» Um you might have you might be hearing
some pool balls in the background.

729
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:55,520
In the clubhouse, but I'll be there.
>> Well, okay. Just ask him to keep it

730
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:58,840
clean, okay?
>> Oh, yeah.

731
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:02,320
There's no you know, you know, they're
all good.

732
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:06,480
» All right. Well, does anybody have any
closing comments?

733
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:12,640
» I have none.
Thank you. And that'll do it.

734
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:15,560
» All right then, we will adjourn meeting
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