Call to order the Parks Commission for Millersburg and
uh how about a roll call?
» Done. >> Here.
» Richardson. >> Here.
» Patterson. >> Here.
» Withrow. >> Here.
» Okay, well, that was fast.
And uh welcome. Welcome. Uh This is uh
August 12th. >> Yes.
» Okay. And uh
we were emailed the minutes and uh hopefully everybody had a chance to
peruse them. Um
and uh it are there any um motions to uh
amend them or anything needs to be discussed or changed?
We'll hear a motion to accept them. >> Second.
» Okay, it's been uh moved and seconded. All in favor say I. I. I. All opposed?
» I. >> Nope. Okay.
Looks like the minutes have been uh approved and looks like uh unfinished
business is next, but there doesn't seem to be any, so we're going to move right
on to new business. The park projects, uh those that have been completed, in
progress, and those planned for the rest of the year and next year.
And maybe some future park projects and of course
the ribbon cutting for the Consor Linear Park.
So, Matt, I think it's >> Not Matt. We're having Andrew drive this
bus tonight. >> Andrew, I am so sorry, Andrew.
» Yeah. Sorry if I get anyone carsick on the drive. All right.
So, first uh we haven't uh met since January, so there's um had to go back in
time for updates. We completed the uh park shade structure
over the playground and Hillsborough City Park. Uh there's a little picture
taken by Matt of uh the finished product. It seems to go on really well.
We've got a lot of compliments on that one. Um project was done uh within
budget as well. And then uh we also were able to um as a
planned project paint the interior of the restrooms, both the
both facilities or both buildings in Hillsborough City Park. And then we
updated the interior signage at the park to
uh show current ordinances and just update language to be more clear.
» So, what were those? >> The the signage?
» Yeah. >> I saw some of the signage in the park
was outdated for old code references. Some of it wasn't quite clear for park
rules and stuff like that. So, we >> City logos?
» Yeah, or just the shapes were a little odd or hard to see. So, we updated all
those to improve them. Yeah.
» I don't pay attention to them. I just >> I don't think 99% of people noticed.
I think And they also have our logos on them, too, now.
» I think there was one with a really old phone number on it, too.
» Yeah, there was definitely >> to get some things fixed.
» Yeah, definitely outdated contact info. >> want I know I know I know for a fact
that the restroom painting was not easy. >> It was not easy. No, it took a
» I talked to them and the boys down there and they were
Oh, they got it done, but >> They did.
» cuz it's not smooth. It's got bricks stick out and then the grooves and it
was hard to paint. >> Yeah, it took
» It looks nice, though. >> Yeah, they did a great job. It took a
couple coats to to get it down. But, they did a great job.
» Looks good. >> Yeah. Any other questions on these
before we move on? Right.
» Right here. >> Uh so, next uh project in progress. Oh,
you have >> No.
» Okay. Um Transition Parkway is obviously our
biggest park project going on. Um we are kind of they're doing some uh
cleanup and just punch list items to close up like things that need to be uh
addressed, small items. Uh we are waiting for Pacific Power to
uh get us power to the park uh for irrigation and lighting, which has kind
of put a little bit of stuff on hold, but that's supposed to be happening on
the 19th to the 26th. And then after that, they will um test those items and
get things uh the grass seeded and irrigation
running and it should be great. So. >> Will it will the contractors or the
landscapers replace all the dead trees? >> Yes, that's uh we just talked about
that. So, we had our weekly construction meeting today and they have just asked
that they can postpone replanting those trees until
September for a more ideal planting season. And that was fine. So,
yeah. >> They don't grow without water.
» Well, that we That was a discussion, too.
But they are all of those um we don't pay for the extra trees.
They're all uh expected to you need a plant them and have them establish and
there's a 2-year warranty period on that. So,
uh and then the North Ball Field drainage uh project should be starting
pretty soon. It's a two uh two projects uh to address the drainage out here. One
is to install subsurface drainage pipes uh through the grass field
um that'll help get water out of that field um
that usually sits there for a long period of time and then we will be uh
regrading and putting in new material for the baseball infield to bring that
up to >> Where I see
» pre-equivalent standard of baseball. >> see the outline, is that where the
drainage goes? >> Yeah, that will be Well, that's the
we'll have that area basically fenced off and yeah, the drainage will be in
that general area. >> empty?
» It goes south. Um so, we currently have subsurface drainage in the south field,
which is why it is noticeably different. Correct. Yeah, so that's why it's
noticeably different uh between the two fields on when you can play on them.
» I know Lake Miller Lake Miller's Park was quite quite nice last summer.
» It's a bit of a swamp uh through May, June.
So, this uh so, the goal of this is one to make
uh make it so that we can start maintenance activities on it much sooner
in the year, which would help uh upkeep on the park and also it'd be more usable
through the sports activities.
» Yeah. >> So, yeah.
» Yeah, I've seen the the the North Ball Field being used this year way more than
the last six that I've been around. >> Yeah. I am excited for that field to be
in really good shape and the softball field team to reserve it again and have
the nicer field. >> South one needs maintenance right now
pretty bad. >> Uh any other questions on those?
All right. >> I I I have one. Yeah.
» Yes, sure. >> When you do this
my my sidewalk that I asked for from the east side all the way out, is
that in there someplace?
» Um are you talking about connecting from the um playground to the multi-use path?
» Yeah, right by the playground, right on the right side. You go over there
instead of having to go all the way over to the maintenance building to go out to
the highway without going through the grass.
» Well, let's move to the next slide and we'll see it.
Uh I don't have a picture of that, but it's the next bullet point, the
Millageville City Park path connection. Right there, that's Chuck described.
Um it will connect the end of the I guess I can show it on here, the
um end of the playground
uh bottom part right there uh where the sidewalk currently ends and connect to
the multi-use path right there. So, uh yeah, we won't have
» It'd be really nice cuz I I see a lot of people in the morning cut
across there, three or four couples, cuz they come from Umqua
and down in there instead of going clear up to the parking lot and come in and
they just it's no big deal, you know, but
» Yeah, but it gives them a path. >> It'd be nice.
» And it's also for ADA consideration. >> That's right. Okay. I wanted to know if
it was still on the plan. >> Yes, uh it's currently out um
in a RFQ process and we're getting quotes back right now, so built this
year. >> Thank you.
» And then as well, there's also a additional bench being installed um in
that contract as well. Cool. So, there's that and then the other thing uh
that will be happening probably late next week or the week
after will we got our Concert Linear Park name signs. There'll be one
installed on each end of the park. And they should be
kind of adding a nice touch to to the park.
» That wasn't so hard to name that park after all, was it?
» No. That's a Yeah. So, it kind of like this,
and it kind of maybe sets a little bit of a standard for
park name signs, too. >> I I just want to say that that park I
really like the design of that park. It is so nice. Congratulations.
» Oh, yeah. That was a lot of a lot of Janelle on
» Well, it was a lot of people. >> A lot of people.
» that I'm glad you like it. I'm glad there's something
» I love it. I think it's cool. >> All right. Uh I'm going to throw it over
to Matt for future park projects. >> Okay.
» first items. >> You bet. Well, the first item We don't
have slides for these, um but uh the first one is our pickleball courts that
we've talked about. We are planning on I can get you a picture of
that.
Most of the costs that would cover Whoop.
I don't know.
Um >> Oh, we don't
» That'd be nice. >> That's it.
It's like a baseball park home. >> Yeah.
» There you go. All right.
So, we uh we had the three pickleball courts that you see here on the screen
go through our land use process. That was a requirement in order to get the
grant, and so we had to go through the land use process that got approved.
That's done. Uh then we applied for the grant. Um
uh everything was submitted, and we're planning on hearing back about that
grant in September. The grant was for $100,000
towards the the construction of this, and we have it budgeted at 150 and so
that funding is in the budget even if we didn't get the grant we could move
forward with construction but we're holding pretty high hopes that we're
going to get that grant and then that'll put a lot less burden on
the allocation we had budgeted for it.
» Who did you apply where? >> OPRD
» OPRD? >> Oregon Parks and Recreation, yeah.
Yep, their local governments grant. Yep. So we'll be hearing back on that
soon. Any questions on that? It might not be
three by the time it's all said and done. It might be two but
we're we're working on that still.
Any questions on that? >> I think it'll get used.
» Okay. >> The only other future project I wanted
to talk about was our North Park and I just wanted to give you an update on
where we are with that. Right now we're just waiting for the city to have enough
funding in in the account to do a grants match
for the construction of it and we're slowly building that up.
It's coming from our system development charges that are coming in.
We've got a couple of new developers sniffing around about potentially large
amount of homes coming in the city. If that happens that'll probably help us
fill that up pretty quick so we'll see what happens but right now we're just
waiting for that fund balance to get high enough for us to actually make the
grant match. So it's just waiting.
» Okay. >> Any questions on North Park?
Okay.
» The um project is the splash pad. That's
planned to be in Millersburg City Park. I had I
have some I guess I'd like some feedback potentially if you have any
just to help us because um
splash pads can be uh scaled up or down fairly dramatically on what you get and
the type of themes that you have or how they look
um and it'd be great to get a little bit of
general direction. We're not going to design it here tonight at all, but
um you know, we can get a feel for what you guys would be interested in, what
you think the kids would be interested in, if you have grandkids or kids that
like that stuff. So. >> Well, I will say leave.
Now, I have a question. >> No, yeah.
» Is this going to be a continuous water use park where we have a
big or is it going to be recycled in a
» Great question. So, we've looked at most of the technical
possibilities already. Um so, recirculating water presents a pretty
big challenge as far as all the regulations and rules on it that would
be a lot of cost for staffing and just
continuous maintenance and everything. Um basically everywhere we talked to
recommended against doing that as well because of that. So, we're going towards
just a through system, but it would be a button activated one, so it's not
continuously running and just using water constantly. It would be activated
by a button. >> Okay.
» Yep. So, it's uh it it'll only be running water when it's
being used. Yeah. Um
and that it does turn out to be the uh much more cost effective option as well.
» How much budget do you have for it? >> Um well,
» We Well, this year we budgeted 50,000 for planning and design.
And that will help us determine what the budget should be for construction. We do
have an amount in the the capital improvement plan from last year.
» It's a 20,000. >> 200,000
» Yeah. >> was the anticipated total
» cost of construction. >> not yet budgeted or programmed, yet.
That's just a placeholder.
What I've learned over the last few months about splash pads is you could be
There's a minimum that you would probably spend, right? But you can
basically build like a small water park if you wanted to. But I don't think
that's the intention of what we're doing here at all. So
Is there >> I had a quick question. Is that
something that requires uh a safety person to be
» So >> there at
» Um if we had the recirculating water style, then we would have to have
someone there monitoring for if there was an issue with like a contamination
issue with the water, something like that. So
» And I suppose the uh the button to push to start the
water going, it must be on a timer, I guess, right?
» it would be and they can program it for >> Well, we'll find You can program it to
turn off at I don't know, a certain time
» Right, and not to be active kids over there
» midnight and Well, adults, maybe, but not the kids.
» Yeah, I know where to find you at 1:00 a.m.
Yeah. So, we'll go over a few ideas, just a basic overview of just some just
a real condensed version, and then kind of maybe get some feedback. But we went
over a lot of different designs. These are some of the ones that we looked at.
We looked many, many different ones, though.
Um And we talked to quite a few different
vendors. So, and they basically presented us with an abundance of
options. We kind of boiled those down to some to present to you, but we're not
going to necessarily pick any of these options whatsoever. It's just They're
just to help us guide this conversation, if that makes sense.
Um and none of these concepts cost us anything. They
They're part of their sales and everything. So,
this this is kind of like uh
we're looking for something that's going to be roughly in
the uh
area of like 800 to 1,500 square feet. It's going to be a smaller splash pad,
uh which we think fits our park pretty well. Um
uh this one has quite a few vertical features that you can see right here.
The total cost of this one would be about $230,000. Now, and obviously,
taking away a single piece or adding a single piece changes that
quite a bit. Um one thing that we do want to consider, too, is the water
usage of the different pieces, as well. So,
» Well, what about maintenance? Like cleaning and
and upkeep and
» Yes. >> that kind of thing.
» That's something we want to consider, too, for every piece. Yeah.
» So, are there projections of what each scenario would cost for maintenance and
» To a degree. Yeah, we have um some numbers from Albany on their splash pad,
and then we have some numbers from City of Salem, as well.
So, and they have different types of splash pad areas for their ongoing
costs. They're actually It's surprisingly not
not very much. >> Oh, okay.
» It's mostly the water. >> Okay.
And do you see there uh are there any general
takeaways from like this one has a lot of vertical pieces.
» Right. >> Does this style have more maintenance
costs than maybe ones I don't know what you have in your presentation, but that
are more >> Yeah.
» like lower, you know, like >> Yeah, I can touch on that. Yeah,
typically, the more vertical options, and let's say ones that have more areas
for water to come out, do take a little bit more maintenance. It's not a
significant change, though, according to the three people that we talked to from
different companies, but they the biggest difference is water usage
overall for the bigger features, and then the initial cost to
to buy them. So, obviously, if something broke and you replaced it,
that would be the most significant. >> So, do you maintain all your parks, and
would this fit part of their scope or their
their work? >> It would It would
um be something for them to add to the list of things that they uh
keep up on. It would be a seasonal feature. And at least that's what I
would plan on. >> I mean, definitely want to drain it in
wintertime. It does freeze here once in a while.
» Yeah. >> You know, while we're talking about
this, it's probably a good time to uh let you folks know we also kind of
skipped over this one. Since January, we have hired a third maintenance worker
full-time for the city of Millersburg as well as
we're ramping up our recreational features here in the city.
» It took a little work to get it done, but it got done.
» Since Since you met in January, but it happened last week.
» Yeah. >> Yeah, it's pretty fast, pretty new.
» Yeah. Yeah, we're
» I mean, it was 6:40 in the morning. I'm going to work.
And I'm walking the dog. >> Yes. Yes. So, you'll see him around. Um
okay. So, and we'll just go through these. We won't
spend too much time, but I do want to get a general idea. This one is more of
just a in-ground um feature. This is very similar to what
you'd see at Maqee's Park that was just built in downtown Albany. Uh this one
has more um features to it. It has the push button
in the corner. Um it has some rock features, and I did ask Albany about how
things go for if they've heard of injuries or anything
going on with their splash pad, but and they said that
there's been nothing significant that they've had reported.
» like the walls and >> Well, yeah. I think that's feedback.
That's um
» I I like that bath. Simple. >> Right.
» And it works. >> Without the rocks.
» Without the rocks. >> Yes.
» They got a playground right there if they want to climb on something.
» Yeah, the playground's right there. >> Yeah, is that because of safety
concerns, rocks? >> Yeah, kind of. Yeah.
» Yeah. And this example >> I have this last night in your parking
lot right there. >> Oh, no.
» Was that from climbing on the rocks? >> No, going out of that damn sidewalk with
a dog. >> Oh.
» Oh. >> Yeah.
» I went down, boom. >> Well, good. You're okay.
» Right right >> Go figure.
» Um but this one right here, it's all in ground. It The estimate for this one is
around 150,000, but it does it is 1,900 sq ft, which is shown, which is bigger
than what we would put in, so you can scale that
appropriately. >> They can The object of this thing is
just to go when it's warm, like it's been just to
go cool down, get wet, go home. You know, it doesn't have to be
» Oh, I know. I just want to make sure that I
» They're only showing everything. >> I'm just saying simple is
» So >> Simple works.
» So this one has vertical features, but they're pretty minimal. Um
it just has a couple things uh here, and it but it does increase. This one though
is about twice the size in the estimate that we were given was 20 240,000.
This one's the same price with more uh slightly smaller footprint, but
with one large feature with the bucket. >> I like the bucket.
» You like the bucket? They have one of those I saw at uh Sun River. It's good.
Yeah, my kid did not like that one after he got hit.
Um and then this one is the smallest one that we were shown um by another vendor.
It's about 200,000 because it does have quite a lot of features going on, but
they did uh emphasize to us that you could take things away
um make it more affordable. So here's some
ideas too they I we had like Some of them offer different themes or
like different like if you had wanted all in ground and then one feature that
stuck stuck up, they have like some kind of the water tower. I we put the water
tower and the horse one there cuz we thought those ones were kind of fun, but
they have different themes, animals, nature, sports, sea, you know, you could
do there is basically a theme for any everything. I wasn't going to put
everything in here. Um
just kind of depending um if you wanted to go with something more
than just an in ground feature. Uh I wouldn't recommend the
fire hydrant because of the dogs in the park, but
Um you can >> any vertical thing. Could be any
» You know, to to the point. Um I did and this is so obviously there's things that
I kind of thought of just from having kids I kind of use these things, but my
kids are different than other kids, so keep that in mind, but I thought that
they the uh little circle thing with the
sprays there would probably be something they'd enjoy running through. Um
and then also in the bottom corner here we have ones that incorporate light as
well. Uh I don't know how much that would get
used though cuz kids will probably be out in the day, but if you wanted it to
secondary act as kind of like a evening kind of visual feature, aesthetic
feature, that's an option as well. >> It's not Vegas.
» So, yeah, it kind of gave us weird look. So, that was
too far. Get back. Get back. Okay. So, that was
just kind of an idea, general overview. These are some general prices too just
to give you I wanted to show the price so you could see how much these vary
and it varies quite a bit even vendor to vendor.
So. >> So, what is the age that you see age of
the kids? >> a great question for you guys.
» I mean, is it is it is it representative of the
demographic that we have in Millersberg or
» Well, an interesting thing about that is that changes pretty quickly when the
kids are little, right? There was a period where we had a lot of really
young kids a few years ago. I don't know if that's still true because ones who
were that age, you know, would be in elementary school now at the time. Uh
so, I don't know if we know that. That's been an interesting thing. We could look
at our census data, but I don't know how much it breaks it down.
» Yeah. >> Do you ask
» It maybe it might be outdated, too, cuz they do it every 10 years. So, you might
be able to get something out of PSU. >> Do you ask that because
» I'm just wondering what Yeah, I'm just thinking uh
what uh how young your kids are you thinking about that would use this? And
is there anything for the older kids like middle school kids?
» Right, cuz older kids would probably want the bigger ones.
» different things, yeah. >> Yeah, I agree.
» Having having some small areas like a like an area for smaller kids where it
just has like little bubblers and smaller ones, and then having like one
or two larger features. So, it kind of brings people in kids in it from
different ages, and the bigger kids won't feel like oh, this is boring. It's
a sprinkler. So.
» Oh. It's right.
So, maybe more than just the in-ground. Maybe one maybe a feature or two which
» a feature or two of the of larger upper the bigger ones.
» And no rocks. >> No rocks.
» No rocks, yeah. >> I don't I'm not one of the fans of that.
» The features you can aim either. >> No features you can aim. Yeah, there
were quite a few of those options. I also was not big on those.
» I wouldn't recommend. >> Can I ask a clarifying question about
the idea of rocks? Not within the splash pad area, but around the outside, it's
always great for parents and clothes and towels and whatever you have things to
sit on. Um, would you be comfortable with them in that setting? Um, it's
going to be a lot lower maintenance than benches and things like that. They're
getting wet constantly. >> I just worry about
cracking heads, taking, you know, slipping you on it and uh
» So, more so not in the water area. >> Yeah, and uh you know, they get slick
with water on them and then they wear. A rock does wear and with time and um
I mean, I would I I I delivered newspapers for five and a
half years from 12 to 17, 18 years old. Never wore a helmet, never had a
nothing, rode my bike, never had a problem. Now, I can't even go any place
without a helmet and then talking. >> But, I think regardless of what we put
out there, whether it's benches or rocks, you know, kids are going to jump
off of it. They're going to They're going to climb on it.
It's It's just the nature of children, but it would be nice to have something,
whether it's a a rock or just a block of some sort for for people to sit on and
put their things on so they're not sitting on the ground. That I think that
would be I think that would be nice. >> You know, the benches that Randy's
putting in down there right now with the new plastic wood on them, you know,
you know, they're probably cheaper than putting in a rock wall.
» They might be. >> Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know. It's just ideas. That's what you're asking for.
» Yeah. No, this is exactly what I was thinking.
» But, this one it actually has like a like a a perimeter.
» Yes. >> A raised perimeter. That would be a
That would be nice. >> Yeah, but you know,
» the parents are going to want to pay attention and supervise their kids.
» But, it's simple, clean, and no extra edges.
» Hopefully. >> So, that's the way so the kids can't
splash you. >> A parent's going to watch our kid,
right? Yeah. Okay. Uh was there any type So, the
in-ground ones obviously there's no theme to those, you know, like there's
just where you place them and um if we were to do
maybe a small section that could help cater to like some of the older
kids. Is there like a theme or like a type of feature that'd be
preferred? >> You can You can have a dump, you know,
with the buckets to this, you know. I mean, it you know
something like that. >> There was another bucket one where it
was like multiples where they were rolling different times.
» Pick that one. Multiple buckets. >> Yep. Something like that that goes a
little higher. >> Yeah, and I think this one specifically
and it depends on the bucket. Some of them you got to have certain size splash
pad that was too big for the one we were looking at, but this one is for a
smaller one, so that could be something like that.
» Just something. It doesn't have to be the whole thing for larger kids, but it
gives them something to do. >> Right.
» Or parents. >> Are these
» Um >> splash pads going to be cushioned? Is
that what they are? >> Um
» Is it so concrete? >> Yeah, so we did a lot of looking into
that cuz you can do a rubberized surface as well. Um
and the consensus seems to be do not use the
rubberized surface um because kids like to pick at it.
It wears out significantly quicker and um
like the city of Salem, um Albany, everyone has basically said that if you
broom finish it well, it has plenty of traction. Kids have It's not a slipping
issue. Um
and just the maintenance cost is alone is
a huge barrier. >> And And you don't have it turned on the
whole year. It You wait until a certain time where it starts getting warmer to
turn it on anyways. >> Yeah.
» So. >> Yeah, and and another thing with the
rubberized surface is it's not super friendly to Oregon's climate.
So, they they work much better in a drier climate.
» Are any of these um water features interchangeable? I mean,
sometimes you know, once you put things in, you're stuck with it. Can they be
changed out and updated? Or how do you how easy is that to do so you don't stay
with the same theme for eternity? You know, sometimes these
things get >> Yep.
» They you know, especially the trendy sort of things, they kind of wear out
and wear out. >> So, um
I did talk about that. One of the vendors said that you can
swap them out. It's Now, you can't swap out a in-ground sprayer for a tower
because the amount of water that feeds to it is just so dramatically different.
But, in general, you can do like ones. You can swap like in-ground
one that does like, you know, that goes 360 to directional um
a small tower one that uses, you know, 50 gallons per minute for another one
that does about the same. >> I was just thinking that if something
gets broken and then what? >> Right.
» So, you have to replace it with something.
» Right, and they may not make it. So. >> What's the What's the you know,
approximate maintenance cost to maintain
» Oh. I have that, but not in the
presentation. Um I can pull it up.
» Just curious. >> Yeah, I can pull it up after uh
Yes. It I want to say >> It's pretty low.
» I'd have to go through my >> will depend on the features, how big it
is, what what extra things we have in it and that will that will make a
difference of as far as >> Yeah. The
» upkeep. >> The biggest cost of um
upkeep with or of ongoing cost was the water.
» Water. >> Um so, it's seasonal and it really
depends on how many features you have. What are you looking
» Is it somewhat accurate to say that it I mean
depending on what you do, but if you have a concrete surface, you're
maintaining a concrete surface like all the other concrete surfaces we have.
The
water is not too dissimilar to our irrigation system, you know. Yes,
you know, we are maintaining those things right now. Yes, it's a little
different depending on what the features are, but those are similar to playground
equipment. So, I don't think this is much different and I don't think it's
like >> maybe that's I didn't clarify that. It's
not going to be a huge burden on on staff to take this on. Here, we have a
regular inspections of the park throughout like for all the features and
everything. This will be added into that. Obviously, when things stop
working, we'd have to fix them, but that's not a ongoing
» And it's not going to be going all the time anyways. You have to walk up and
hit the button to make it >> difficult.
» Yeah. >> Yeah. So, it doesn't just run like a
fountain. >> Right.
» Leaf blower and a power sprayer, that's about it.
» That's That is what >> Yeah.
» other cities basically said they they uses.
» Yeah. >> A broom, leaf blower,
» Do they have a They must have some sort of a
guarantee or five-year warranty or
» Oh, yeah, they all do. Yeah. Yeah, they vary depending on the vendor
and everything. And >> And would the pump
pump house or whatever be located in the uh
uh maintenance building over there?
» Where's this going to be located? >> We haven't determined that fully yet cuz
we have to There There's a lot of different things
to weigh out um as far as where is the location that would work for park users,
what is going to be affordable from a utility connection standpoint and
you know, impacting existing features and topography. So, we have a few
locations preliminary like kind of identified as possibilities, but
we definitely have to take a closer look into
» Cuz I know there was one talk about doing it where the the little fire
station was. Like right so they could use parking that was here.
» Oh, I think that decision >> Oh.
» was made that it would be in the park. >> Yeah, this will be in in Millersville
City Park. >> Oh, in the
» Yes. >> Okay.
» Yeah, it's just where the park that we want to put it. Yeah, we won't because
there we have a decent amount of existing features that we need to
consider as well and how the kids are going to get there,
what's near them, you know, interacting with them.
» I think for this kind of investment and what it is, it we don't want to feel
like a shoehorned in somewhere as an afterthought. Like it should it should
be its own space and so that may take a little bit of thinking
with the existing park. >> And it got to be close to a restroom,
too. >> That's definitely a consideration.
» The south the south one right there where the loop goes around by the that
perfect little area. >> That that is one of the
» mind, that's where I would put >> That is one of the spots that we are
considering. Yeah. >> Cuz there was talk about moving the
maintenance shed or maintenance shop to a different
location to give them more parking >> And we have we have a lot
guys land, you know. >> I don't know.
» Cuz they're ready to move. >> Oh, that.
» Oh. >> Yeah.
Yeah, I mean that the plan is to move the maintenance facility, well, not the
facility the building actually will probably stay. But the operations out of
the park into different location which has not been determined.
And um and that would open up more space because of the we still need some
storage, probably keep the building for that, but
the outside, you know, the additional parking area back there.
Um >> Yeah. They still need it cuz they need
to still maintain this park. So, I think I have enough feedback
unless anything you want to share anything else. I think this has been
great. >> I think it's a great idea.
» Yeah. Well, I'm glad everyone's talking.
» I just think I just think basic is
Yeah. Fundamentally feasible.
» Yeah. >> With maybe
something extra put in that. 140, 150, better than 220.
» Yeah. >> That's fine, yeah.
» No, that sounds great. Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it. Uh it'll help
us move forward with the something that you guys are all right thinking about,
so >> You'll hear more again.
» Yes. Yeah, it won't get built between now and the next meeting.
So >> So how far how what is what is your
timelines for this? For your projected ideal timeline for having something
for the kiddos to use? >> Well, based on how we
planned this out with the last budget season cycle, um
this fiscal year we budgeted for planning and design. And so the earliest
we would be looking to start building something would be next summer.
» Right. >> Yeah, depending on the summer.
» Um so it'll probably be ready for the su- the summer after.
» We also may, again, want to look at other grants. You know, that could that
could uh influence timing if there's something coming up that's available, so
» Yeah. Even if we somehow got a big grant, we'd still keep it
simple. We don't have to do a water park.
» Herbal or whatever. Up to a billion dollars, go play it. We got the money.
» All right. Uh and to the next item, I think this is you.
» Yeah, I was just going to talk about this, although there's not a lot to say
yet. As Andrew already explained what we're waiting on for the park. So
we are not going to pick a date until we
have a little more certainty on when that grass is going to get planted. I
think that's the key. It'll be It's probably going to be late September,
early October is the is the plan. Um >> For the circle?
» For the circle, for the ribbon cutting. Yeah. And it because of the nature of
the park, I mean, you know, it's closed. It is technically closed.
Um but it's really difficult to keep people out of it. And so, we will open
it as soon as we are able to open it. This ribbon-cutting ceremony will
follow. So,
question for all of you, there hasn't been a lot of thought put into the
ribbon-cutting ceremony yet except cutting a ribbon and the mayor will
probably say some words. Uh do you have any suggestions for what you would want
to see in something? >> Lynn has a suggestion.
» It's nice. Banjos. Hear banjos.
» Not banjos. Those are apparently abhorrent of
banjos. Shame on you for saying banjos. >> wait.
I can't wait to just have it open fresh and the progression on the
woods sidewalks put in. That would give me
really neat walking excursion because I, you know,
» Yeah, that's the goal. >> Yeah, I want to walk out there, but I
don't want to walk down woods without sidewalk.
» Right. >> So, you know,
» a lot of people do. >> I know, and I'm always riding my bicycle
out there, you know, going on evening rides.
» Yes, well, you know, 45 and no bike lane and no walkway,
you're a brave man. >> So, quick on that, I guess, just because
it's not a it's more of a transportation project than a parks project, but it's
still Yeah, it's pathways. Um >> Yeah.
» That is moving forward. The goal would be to be in construction next summer.
» Yep. >> Um we do have it phased into two pieces.
And it will probably depend on the construction prices and potential
grants, that sort of thing, um
whether we can award both phases at once or if we have to start with one and then
do the second. So, just that's where we're at with that
project. >> Design is very far along, though.
Yeah. >> I know it's not parks, but are the
farmers coming around? And the people that own the land, are
they >> Oh.
We're We're still in the process. Unfortunately, that's a slow process.
» Been there, done that. Okay. >> As far as the ribbon cutting, do you
have any ideas, or has any ideas been pushed toward the city about what other
things we could do just besides cutting the ribbon and key words?
» Yeah. >> Um
Not Nothing concrete. So, that's why I was asking if you have ideas, feel free
to share them. That's >> My idea is have have a ribbon cutting
and have a walk. >> Yeah.
» Walk up there and come back down the other side.
» I think there was some thought to maybe have the ribbon cutting at this first
plaza. >> Yeah.
» And then, yeah, we could do whoever wants to walk.
» Walk out there and then come back the other side, you know.
» Sure could. >> I think, yeah.
» Well, South Albany could practice their marching band.
Up and down. That'd be fun. >> I'd have a marching band at the ribbon
cutting ceremony. >> Yeah, that'd be great.
» Well, you know, they're getting ready for
uh the parade.
Get the cheerleaders out, and come on. >> Do you have any budget for this?
» No. >> No.
» Well, the sky's the limit. I mean, at
the most similar thing we've done in recent years was the fire station
opening, which was a hose decoupling. It's what they do for fire stations.
And there was There were some words said by multiple
people. There were some refreshments. I think it was cupcakes and drinks.
» foity-toity cookies. >> Oh, cookies. It was cookies.
» From >> Yeah, that's right.
» From From >> Were they crumble cookies? I can't
remember now what all we did. Yeah.
» That's the only time I ever go to forward.
» Well, if you came to it, I'm sure you remember what the food was. So, and and
then of course at that one, people had the opportunity to tour the station.
But, we could as was mentioned, we could tour
the path. So, we could have some food involved.
It's a little It's outdoors. Might be maybe we'll set up a tent cuz we do have
city tents that would be available and it'll be a little
bit weather dependent. that time we should still be good.
That's the goal to get it done to do it while the weather's still nice. But,
we'd really like the grass to be starting to grow a little bit and not
all dirt out there. >> You know, the ball over here they
planted those trees and put in grass and seem like gosh, it's ready to mow in 2
weeks easily. >> Yeah. The long the highway down there
it's that high already. >> So, if they seeded it really in
September, we think it would.
» Oh, it would be. Yeah. >> So, would this be have to be coordinated
with Ball when they do their menu Are they going to do an open open house or
menu grand opening or ribbon cutting or
anything? >> Ball is planning to do some sort of
celebration of opening. It'll be after the fact. It'll probably be first
quarter of next year and they have they have a lot of their PR person has been
in touch about this and they are really going to limit it to
people who are involved in the project because that's such a huge number of
people already. But, if there are people who want to do
tours of the plant, that can be arranged it separately at other times. They will
» Cuz they gave out stress stress balls at the
business extravaganza. >> They did.
Yeah, so I don't think there will be any conflicts or need to coordinate anything
between our ribbon cutting and anything they're doing cuz we're really going to
be up here on the you know, other side of the the road.
And I know we have some folks who have been involved in our project who really
want to be a part of this. Put a lot into the design and overseeing
construction and of course city folks as well council.
» Each area is right. Here
and up here where they put in a lot of trees.
» Those trees will not be replaced. >> The ones that died.
» not be replaced. Well, they shouldn't have to be because
uh those are pretty wet areas.
» Yeah. >> They are.
» So. >> Those are the storm water facilities
that treat the water from the road. >> Yeah.
» And yeah. >> I've gone by it and looked at them.
» Yeah, they'll be replaced with gloves. >> The place of I really want to tour when
it gets open is Timber Timber >> Timber Lab.
» Timber Lab. That's I I want to see that I've been to
PDX. I've seen what they've done there and Ray took me out there and I looked
at their light poles. >> Well, those are If you guys haven't seen
their light poles, they're all >> Timber Lab.
» Yeah. Oh, really? >> Yeah.
» It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool in there.
» Yeah, I had I love I would see how they do that, you know.
» Yeah, I would watch for watch for something to come out. They Timber Lab
does like to celebrate their milestones and I would guess they'll do something
um as well that will be relatively open, but we'll wait and see what they
» Well, they're good about recycling wood and stuff like that. That's what I like.
» Yeah. I've got one more little thing that's
not on a slide, but just wanted to remind you all or let you all know. You
probably don't know yet. There will be a volunteer appreciation event on October
» October again? >> Volunteer appreciation event here at
City Hall. We did it last year. >> Last year, yeah.
» Yep, the first one. So, we're going to do it again this year. It'll be October
7th at 5:30 and you will receive an invitation, but I'm just giving you a
heads up to put on your calendar. >> That was fun.
Cool.
» Okay, well then Mr. Chair, we'll give the meeting back over to you.
» All right. Well, it says that we have our next meeting on October
20th. I already put it on my calendar. So, I
guess it's in stone. >> Love it.
» Works for me. And uh Do you guys
» still be here? Yeah. Stick around to Halloween.
» I'll be here for that one. The next one I'll probably be on Zoom.
» Okay. We can make that happen. >> Matt says I can do it, so I'm okay.
Well, I'll have to learn. >> As long as you've got internet.
» Huh? >> As long as you've got internet access.
» Oh, I've got internet at the park. >> Okay.
» Um you might have you might be hearing some pool balls in the background.
In the clubhouse, but I'll be there. >> Well, okay. Just ask him to keep it
clean, okay? >> Oh, yeah.
There's no you know, you know, they're all good.
» All right. Well, does anybody have any closing comments?
» I have none. Thank you. And that'll do it.
» All right then, we will adjourn meeting at