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>> Are we good?

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It's 7:00 p.m. on Monday,

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August 17th, and I call this regular

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city council meeting to order.

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Uh Council Member McNally Martinez, will

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you lead us in the flag salute, please?

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» I pledge allegiance

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>> to the flag

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of the United States of America.

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And to the republic for which it stands,

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one nation under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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» All Um

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Uh all council is here with exception of

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Council Member Turnis.

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to be excused. Can I get a uh

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Can I get a motion to excuse her?

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Yes, Council Member Poor.

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>> Move to excuse Council Member Turnis's

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uh absence.

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>> Second.

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>> It's been It's been moved in second and

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all in favor.

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>> Aye.

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All right, next item on the agenda is

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citizen participation and we have uh two

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people who have signed up today.

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And I can't read your handwriting. I'm

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sorry. It looks like your last name is

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Jones.

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Oh, Susan Johnson. Oh my gosh.

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>> It depends on which personality comes

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>> Okay, well, I've never seen this one

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>> I'm laughing. I write left-handed.

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>> All right.

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Thank you, sir. Susan Johnson Milton.

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It was a treat to see all the youth in

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the parade this year. It felt like just

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a small town and we're surrounded by

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this massive growth.

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Isn't that the truth?

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I mean, it really felt it this weekend.

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The Parks Board pickleball scramble was

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loads of fun for us and the people

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involved. Teenagers and adults played.

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The winners were given medals, gold,

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silver, and bronze. We ended around 2:30

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p.m., cleaned up, and took the equipment

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down to the city tent in the lower

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I was a little bit mystified that the

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city booth

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abutted the right side of the stage when

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you face it from the tent where people

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sit with that speaker reverberating as

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hard and loud as it did.

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I loved the music. I even danced and I

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think they got photos of me.

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Unfortunately, don't tell my husband.

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But, however, conversation was

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impossible at the city tent. Staff

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needed to wear earplugs for the auditory

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protection from the sound of the stage.

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stage. Framework, who worked with the

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city on our growth management plan was

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there also with their information. Our

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planning staff had very important

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information to share with the citizens

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and glean comments on their opinions,

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especially in re to the proposed tree

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canopy ordinance.

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be hidden. It should be close to the

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entrance of any event. Two tents were at

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the entranceway along Oak Street in the

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lower park. At the time I was there, I

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did not see anybody present.

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This is sad because it diminished the

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role of the city and its info

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that it wants to have to interact with

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our citizens and to answer any

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questions, especially re planning

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uh and our zones with framework being

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comment is this, the lack of golf carts,

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which we have had in the past, citizens

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so enjoyed the interaction riding with

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the volunteers and talking about Milton

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days in past years and meeting new

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people. That climb up to the street

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parking up at the school or higher up

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Oak is very hard on some people.

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And who on some people who are not

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considered eligible for ADA. In the

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past, there were four to five carts that

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were always busy.

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the mayor and one other staff person

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would be called into need to move people

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up and down and it was a constant flurry

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up and down Oakway and maybe around

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lunchtime it settled down. I want to

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thank you, council members Hall, Cedar,

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Roberts, and Martinez for being in the

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parade and meeting her constituents

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at Milton days.

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To the events committee, you should be

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proud of their first Milton days and

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take kindly suggestions for the future.

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It is You know, I'm from the south and

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one of our sayings is it's not necessary

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to throw out the dishwater.

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It's or required to start anew without

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considering the past successes. The old

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provides a map to build on as time and

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needs change, but the old doesn't need

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to be cast aside entirely. Thank you. It

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was a very good weekend for many, many

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people and I'm glad it was successful.

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>> Thank you. Just to let you know, I did

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play chauffeur for most of the day. So,

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I did I did shuttle a lot of people back

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and forth. Okay, the second person

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that's on our sign up sheet is John and

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I'm sorry I can't read your last name.

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>> Tedrick.

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t e d r i c k, Tedrick.

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>> Thank you, Tedrick.

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moved here about 18 years ago and build

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run-down home

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off of Taylor Street and I love the

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little small town that it has been.

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wouldn't live anywhere else. And

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the reason I'm here is in opposition of

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the 2801

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property.

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that we need more small homes for people

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to live in city Milton, not apartments.

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I I know we have apartments right here

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at the end of

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Taylor Street and that was a great piece

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of property to build it and it looks

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like a very nice

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15-18 units that they're building. My

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worry is that

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Taylor's a small street. You got a lot

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of speeders. You got a lot of this. You

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got a lot of that. You already have the

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Ukrainian school that's going to go in

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there. That's going to be a jungle full

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of people when that opens up and I I

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don't

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have anything against the owners that

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own that property

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because when you sell

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make it a different zone and you're

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going to make more money. I understand

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that. I don't have anything against

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that, but I think

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that place would serve better

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to put 16 to 24 houses in there that the

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houses are need to be in the city of

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Milton. Small houses that people can

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afford if you can afford a house at all

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anymore and there's lots of nice little

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houses that were built right across the

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street where that fence is and I think

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they should do a a small impact

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statement on that.

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They don't have to do it. They could do

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a partial impact statement to see if

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zoning that would put in there. I can't

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imagine them zoning that 4.04 acres and

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putting a store in there. I just got I

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just can't see that happening.

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condos or something like that. I don't

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necessarily have any grudge against

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that, but I think

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family homes are well needed in this

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place and that would be a good place

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where you could put either 10 and 12

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bigger homes or you could put

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16 to 24 smaller sized mid homes. In my

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opinion it is that we need smaller

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houses for people to move in the city of

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Milton, not a bunch of complexes that

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they already have. They already have a

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busy complex right next door and if they

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were to build a condo system or

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apartment system it would be I think in

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my opinion just too close to each other. Too many people

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coming in and out of there. My opinion

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is to stay with the single family homes.

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All right, that's all I got to say.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Tedder. You're welcome.

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All right, those were the only two

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people that signed up on our list. Is

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there anyone else in the audience that

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would like to address the council this

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Yes, please come forward.

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» Jacqueline Whalen, Milton, Washington.

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I wanted to uh

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thank the folks who did the work for the

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event over the weekend.

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It was lovely to see so many people

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engaging with one another without a

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phone right there in their face. It was

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sweet.

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direct it to public works but the

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administration as well.

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>> We have an electric department. We've

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got really smart people with

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electricity. This city really needs an electric system that

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allows amplifiers at the stage but when

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it hits a certain level of sound the

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electricity cuts off.

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When you can be in your house over 700

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and be able to sing along

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very loud, very unnecessary.

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issue of noise pollution much more

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seriously.

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So, that's the request on that.

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We've got the department. We need to do

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There was a lot of concerns about the

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stage going in. Last year there wasn't

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the noise problem. This year there

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really was.

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Secondly, regarding microphones

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I really hope that the administration

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and staff can do something more so that

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we can have

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a recording system and broadcasting

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system

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that doesn't seem to have so many

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opportunities for things to fail.

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Last meeting

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portions of citizen comment were not

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recorded.

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Planning commission meeting, sadly

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it's not the first time the recording

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didn't happen.

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I am 1,000% confident that the person

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operating the system is doing the best

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they can. I assume the problem is with

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the system.

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So, I ask the administration, please

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>> [laughter]

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>> could we could we get our tech people to

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take a look at this and help people who

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are

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doing so many different things at the

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front desk there,

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help them to be more successful by

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having a broadcast system

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that really

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makes it clear whether microphones are

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operating, whether things are being

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recorded. That would be a real plus.

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Because I know staff is really trying to

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do their best with what they've got and

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uh

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I do hope council will support

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making things better. Thank you.

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>> Thank you. Uh anyone else wish to

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address the council this evening?

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All right, seeing none, uh we will move

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on to additions and deletions. Are there

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any requested additions or deletions

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from the agenda this evening?

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All right, seeing none, we will move on

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to the consent agenda. May I get a

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motion to approve the consent agenda?

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Council member Cedar.

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>> Move to approve the consent agenda as

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presented.

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>> Second.

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>> It's been uh moved by Council member

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Cedar and seconded by Council member

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Port to

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uh approve the consent agenda. All in

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favor?

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>> Aye.

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>> Any opposed?

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Motion passes unanimously.

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All right, moving on to presentations.

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The first uh presentation we have this

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evening is from Judge Allen.

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Welcome.

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>> Thank you.

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See how this works.

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Um I am Sandy Allen. Uh there's a lot of

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new council members that I don't think

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I've met. Um and I appreciate you having

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me here. I'm the judge. I've been the

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Milton judge for 20 years, and this is

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Ellen Adaberry, and she is the uh Milton

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and Puyallup court administrator.

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So, um I'm here to you to talk to you

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today about the Milton Drug Court. Uh we

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received funding from the Administrative

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Office of the Courts for uh their um

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fiscal year, which is July 26th of or

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July of 2026 through June of 2027.

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So, we've received funding from them,

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and I want to talk to you. Oops.

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Little bit too far.

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Okay, I want to talk to you about how we

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got here. Um the uh

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back in 2021,

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our uh Washington State Supreme Court

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found our drug laws unconstitutional.

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And then for about a period of 2 years,

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Washington State didn't have any drug

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laws at all. Um when the legislature uh

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reenacted the drug laws on July 1st of

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2023,

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uh they made the uh drug offenses, the

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majority of them misdemeanors instead of

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uh felonies. So, what used to be in

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superior court is now in the district

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and municipal court um courts of limited

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jurisdiction. So, the maximum penalty is

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180 days and a $1,000 fine. You lose

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your right to possess firearms if you're

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convicted.

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And over the last 3 years since the new

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laws have been in place, we have had

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over 240

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drug charges filed in the city of

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Milton.

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And the motor the majority of those uh

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Tiper was involved.

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So um

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he's an active uh part of the Milton

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Police Department. So

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can I do this again?

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Third time's a charm of not pushing too

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much.

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So uh we uh found the need to start a

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drug court. I went to the administrative

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office of the courts, provided the

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statistics for Milton.

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Um and our efforts to do kind of a

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modified drug court without any funding.

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So we had previously um done a resource

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court every one time a month where we'd

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bring in peer support um navigators and

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people from treatment agencies to come

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in and try to work with defendants to

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get them evaluated and um

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get the defendants the help that they

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needed. It wasn't sufficient. Um so then

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we tried it to bring in treatment

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evaluators every court hearing to try to

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work with defendants to get them

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evaluated. And again found that um the

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number of cases were just overwhelming.

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So we um went to the state and asked

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them to support Milton for a drug court.

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Um we need to recognize that there is a

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problem

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with addiction that needs to be solved

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and no matter what the punishment we do

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unless we treat the underlying problem,

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we're not going to get them out of the

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system.

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So the drug court model um

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invokes judicial oversight

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um on a actually more regular basis than

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a normal court appearance along with

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intensive treatment and then support

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through our court case coordinator and

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peer navigators to help work them

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through the system to hopefully get them

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back to being productive citizens and

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not continuing to re-offend.

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We are planning on having our drug court

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the first and third Tuesdays of every

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month. We're adding additional court day

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on a Thursday one time a month to make

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up for the time that we're going to be

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needing to

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have the drug court up and operational.

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So we received

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$204,000

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from

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administrative offices of the courts as

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pass-through funding to operate the

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court. Most of the funding is through

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personnel

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costs.

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We also received a significant amount

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for recovery support and that is helping

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with housing, food assistance, hygiene

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products,

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bus passes, the things that people need

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that are addicted to drugs to get them

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to the resources where they can get

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help. We also

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received

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almost $15,000 in treatment resources.

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That's to a pay for the drug

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evaluations,

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pay for treatment that might not be

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covered by insurance, to do the drug

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testing that we need to do regularly

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within the drug court,

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um pay for toxicology screening, and

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those types of items.

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And feel free to jump in if you guys

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have any questions.

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Uh [clears throat] the biggest category

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is personnel costs. Um

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the

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my my salary, the prosecutors, the

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public defenders. There's additional

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costs that the city of Puyallup will

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incur by um Milton taking on this

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um task of doing a drug court.

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Um but probably the biggest um expenses

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and the biggest needs are the uh case

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coordinator case manager, which is going

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to be a half-time contract position.

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And the case manager

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um works with the drug court

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participants, um coordinates their

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treatment, helps them with outside

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resources, and coordinating all of that,

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and also collects data and reports um

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all of the data to the administrative

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office of the court so they can track

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everything that we are doing in the drug

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court.

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And then the other position that we've

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been um contract that we can contract

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and hire that we have funding for is a

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peer specialist. And what a peer

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specialist is is a recovering addict

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that has been trained by DSHS to work

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with um

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people that are going through the drug

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court process and be their advocate and

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support them in their treatment and

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their struggles and

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um

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reach out with the group and the court

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team to be their advocate and support

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them.

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So, what we need from council

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and mayor

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is for you to um accept the pass-through

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funding from the contract with AOC that

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has been executed.

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Um we need to create the necessary

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funding buckets so we can properly track

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the funds that are coming in and out.

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Um we need to work with the city of

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Puyallup to amend the contract with the

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city of Puyallup to um add the drug

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court in.

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And we also need to approve um

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my amended contract that allows for the

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addition additional funds for operating

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the drug court. And approve the

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amendments to the contracts for the

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public defenders and the prosecutors.

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So, there's a lot of work to be done

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um and a lot of things that I need help

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with from the city in order to get this

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to move forward.

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So,

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I'm happy to answer any questions and

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I've got Allen here as backup if you

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guys have questions that I don't have

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answers to.

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>> Yes, Councilmember Reed.

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>> Thanks for being here, Judge. Uh for the

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AOC funding, is there any time

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that they placed on that? By which I

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mean, you know, if we approve

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pass-through funding this year and kind

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of can have our contract amended so that

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it's reflecting that when we renew it

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every year, could AOC pull back the

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funding and thereby create a situation

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where we're funding the drug court

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directly?

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>> The funding for this year is guaranteed.

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Yeah. So, and each year they do a

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renewal and they've simplified the

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renewal process. I know that all of the

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courts that were prior

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um that had been funded prior got funded

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again for this year. And we would know

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um

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we would know if our funding was going

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to be terminated.

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But I would expect from past years that

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it

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they're supportive of it. Do you

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» So every year they look to continue to

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support the courts that are already live

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and going. So um if the funding if the

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state continues to get the funding for

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therapeutic courts, then Milton will

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continue to receive that funding. Um the

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contracts that are being submitted um

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with the amendments have to do with it

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um

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being sunsetted if for some reason

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uh Milton did not receive the funding.

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Um but the intent and the idea behind it

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is to continue to support more and more

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courts um to have a successful

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therapeutic court model um because as a

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state they notice that it is an

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epidemic that needs to be treated. Um so

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while there is a potential, um it's it's

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less likely. Um I can tell you for uh

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Puyallup I think this is our

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fourth year of having um money supported

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uh for therapeutic court. Um and so

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their push is to get more people live.

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So one of their main things is to get

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Milton um going successful for their

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Milton Drug Court program.

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>> Yeah, that's great. Uh thank you for

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that. Uh and I'll just just to grant

562
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:28,720
that I don't have any more questions,

563
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,440
but I just want to say I also understand

564
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,200
that AOC has that goal of implementing

565
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,280
um and I think this is a very important

566
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,520
funding priority statewide. Even if it

567
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,000
was Milton funding I would suggest we do

568
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,280
it because in my experience

569
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,920
which is limited, but drug court has

570
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,040
been very successful. Um but I I did

571
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,240
that when I was in law school, I helped

572
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,800
with that and that was

573
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,400
16 17 years ago and it was successful

574
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,840
then. It's only proved more successful.

575
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,480
I'm aware of various various studies on

576
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,800
the issue. It's very good. So I really

577
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,560
appreciate you doing this and getting it

578
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,400
working for Milton, because those 240

579
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,000
cases those aren't

580
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,280
other people. Those are Milton

581
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,680
residents, and we should be helping

582
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,560
them. So, thank you for bringing this

583
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,320
forward.

584
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,280
>> Thank you.

585
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,110
>> Yes, Councilmember Mounts.

586
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:14,320
» Thank you for being here.

587
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,480
>> Thank you.

588
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,200
>> I just wondered if you would speak um a

589
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,520
little bit to the budget allocation. It

590
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,560
looks like there's almost 26,000

591
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,040
going to housing, food, bus passes,

592
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,960
and hygiene, evaluations, treatment, and

593
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,680
testing, which

594
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,360
I just looking at the looking at the

595
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:37,760
goals of the program,

596
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,240
I would think that

597
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,400
the bulk of the funding would go toward

598
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,280
those things, but it's 26,000 out of

599
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,920
204,000. So, if you could just speak to

600
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,320
that a little bit, is that enough money

601
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,110
for those services?

602
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:57,480
» A lot of the um budget money that we use

603
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,720
is to supplement

604
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,840
um what the uh participants will have. A

605
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,520
lot of them we help them get their um

606
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,840
identification. We help them get medical

607
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,760
insurance. And so, it gets them the

608
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,960
evaluations that might not be in covered

609
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,520
by insurance, but the majority of the

610
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,080
services that they will get will be

611
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,000
covered by their medical insurance for

612
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,120
the alcohol and drug treatment. And so,

613
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:27,360
this is used to supplement that.

614
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,160
>> So, this is like the state um

615
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,240
medical

616
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,760
insurance. I I'm assuming that a lot of

617
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,960
the participants aren't working and

618
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,320
getting

619
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,000
insurance coverage from their employers,

620
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:41,680
right?

621
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,880
>> Yeah.

622
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,200
Um so, I will tell you that a lot of

623
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,800
this budget is based um modeled off of

624
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,600
Puyallup's as well. Again, we've been

625
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,080
successfully doing Puyallup for a

626
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,120
handful of years now. Um and then we had

627
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,680
a grant when we launched in PUALP. Um,

628
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,280
what we're finding is the majority of

629
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,000
folks once they get support with the

630
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,920
insurance that we don't end up covering

631
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,440
it under um, our funding um, because

632
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,680
they are eligible for the state's

633
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,360
insurance to get the evaluations and

634
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:09,400
treatments. Um, so far we have yet to

635
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,280
have to stand in to do that piece. Um,

636
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,800
the additional pieces that we have to

637
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,200
get do is more of the support function.

638
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Um, that is getting them to treatment

639
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,360
facilities, getting them to court. Um,

640
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,600
that's where the bus passes come in. Um,

641
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,800
doing the random UAs to help keep them

642
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,480
accountable. Um, doing other sorts of

643
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,600
classes for them. So, it's more of the

644
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,920
other support um, where you see the cost

645
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,880
in there. Um, so the bulk of all these

646
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,560
programs is always personnel um, because

647
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,480
it's it takes close management um, of

648
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,520
this money and to make sure that

649
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,200
participants are held accountable and

650
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,160
can be successful through this program.

651
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,040
And so hence that's why the majority is

652
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,040
through that personnel. And yes, it

653
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,920
while it might seem low, we just do our

654
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,040
best um, to be um, good stewards of the

655
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,600
public funds and um, we try to just, you

656
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,040
know, be

657
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,120
utilize the funds available to support

658
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:05,160
the participants. And so that money will

659
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,400
probably grow um,

660
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,040
cuz and you more people will start to,

661
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,520
you know, we start filing more people

662
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,360
through this program. Ideally we will be

663
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:19,230
able to help more folks. So,

664
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,480
» Does that answer your question?

665
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,230
>> Yes, thank you.

666
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,000
» Yes, Council Member Hall.

667
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,520
>> So, how do you rate how the system's

668
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,120
going? Say you come back in a year, what

669
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:34,840
kind of statistics can you um, are you

670
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,084
going to show us um, what we've done?

671
00:28:38,084 --> 00:28:38,720
>> [laughter]

672
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,760
>> Administrative Office of the Courts

673
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,800
requires us to keep statistics. Um, so

674
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,600
we will keep track of the number people

675
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,760
that enter, the number of people that

676
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,240
entered into treatment, the number of

677
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,600
people that reoffended or commit new

678
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,840
offenses, a number of people that

679
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,640
dropped out of treatment. Um those are

680
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,920
all statistics and the number of people

681
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,000
that graduated, hopefully a lot.

682
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,640
Um those are the statistics that we will

683
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,720
track, that we're required to track with

684
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,160
the administrative office of the courts.

685
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,880
Are there other things that we

686
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,880
Uh so those are we we're mandated when

687
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,680
we're using those funds to keep track

688
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,200
and so we will be able to come back and

689
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,880
present that data to you also to

690
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,120
hopefully show our successes.

691
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,790
>> Yeah, I look forward to that.

692
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,720
» Any additional questions? Comments?

693
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,080
>> Comment.

694
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,480
>> Yes.

695
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,480
Chief.

696
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,320
>> Um

697
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,760
first of all, let me say that I I um

698
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,040
support drug courts. I think they're a

699
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,560
great thing and I want to thank Judge

700
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,160
Allen and Ellen

701
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,000
for doing their

702
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,640
this work and going to AOC and

703
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,840
soliciting and and making us eligible

704
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,400
for this program.

705
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,520
And then one of the things that I want

706
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,560
to talk about because I also have

707
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,320
helped start a drug court in my previous

708
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,920
jurisdiction where I was the elected

709
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,960
sheriff and um

710
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,440
one of the things that we look at, of

711
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,840
course, is the

712
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:08,520
um

713
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,520
if you want to see how healthy your

714
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,840
population is, go and look at your jails

715
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,920
and try to figure out why incarceration

716
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,960
and recidivism is occurring.

717
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,400
And uh

718
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,640
one of the things is there's a some

719
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,440
facts out there and this is estimates uh

720
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,080
that six out of 10 people are dealing

721
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,400
with some kind of substance abuse issue.

722
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,520
And 41% of those people will have a a

723
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,120
coexisting condition, meaning mental

724
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,480
health and substance abuse.

725
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,680
And one of the things is is this program

726
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,400
focuses on treatment rather than

727
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,920
incarceration because I can tell you

728
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,880
that incarceration is one of the most

729
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,160
expensive

730
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,360
ways to deal with uh individuals that

731
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,760
are struggling

732
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,400
um in society for a variety of reasons,

733
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,640
whether it's substance abuse, mental

734
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,920
health, socioeconomic, or just plain old

735
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,320
uh deviant behavior and lack of

736
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,360
accountability. And so,

737
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,960
my experience with the drug courts has

738
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,440
been very positive, and

739
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,760
I can tell you that again, estimation

740
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,920
that you look at, the recidivism for

741
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,200
drug court is 11%

742
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,720
to 46% versus 34 to 79% when you look at

743
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,280
people that are not getting any kind of

744
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,680
treatment. So,

745
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,040
our uh jail population just here at the

746
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,840
misdemeanor level is about a quarter of

747
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,560
a million, and we're probably maybe hit

748
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,440
250,000

749
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,120
um because uh we're having a a lot more

750
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,880
people that are in need, and we have not

751
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,400
had the tools to be able to focus on um

752
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,360
providing resources to these individuals

753
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,760
that are suffering with mental illness

754
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,160
and substance abuse. And the coexisting

755
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,400
condition, meaning what it means is is

756
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,520
that either maybe they were mentally ill

757
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,880
and they started doing drugs to deal

758
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,280
with their mental illness, or maybe they

759
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,440
started

760
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,360
doing drugs, and it was voluntary, but

761
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,280
then it moved into the realm of creating

762
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,520
a mental a permanent mental illness. And

763
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,680
so, by having drug court, we can

764
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,640
identify these individuals that are uh

765
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,760
good candidates that we can provide some

766
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,800
rehabilitation services and focus on

767
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,200
treatment rather than incarceration. And

768
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,400
then, if you were to take the numbers,

769
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,000
and you were to to loosely subtract the

770
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,120
46% recidivism rate from the 79

771
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,600
uh percent uh recidivism rate um at the

772
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,600
both highest levels of recidivism

773
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,280
between the two um in our current

774
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,800
budget, uh that's potentially about

775
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,560
$70,000 that we would save on rather

776
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,840
than incarceration and providing

777
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,640
treatment, and hopefully reduce these

778
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,000
individuals from being habitual

779
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,080
offenders. So, I just wanted to remark

780
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,240
that I'm a big proponent. I've seen it

781
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,480
work. It's been a very successful,

782
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,440
and I'm very proud to be a part of a

783
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,840
city that is

784
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,480
uh

785
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,960
considering this and I'm very uh proud

786
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,600
to be a partner with the courts and with

787
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,800
the judge to be able to

788
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,480
hopefully facilitate this program. So,

789
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,160
it makes sense and my recommendation to

790
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,600
council is that you should support this.

791
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,440
>> Thank you, Chief.

792
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,270
Anyone else?

793
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,240
Judge Allen, thank you very much for for

794
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,480
coming this evening.

795
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,000
>> Thank you. I appreciate it.

796
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,400
>> and staff will be working with you, I'm

797
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,720
sure, uh going forward.

798
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,560
>> Okay.

799
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,360
On the next steps and the so on.

800
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:12,640
>> yeah.

801
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,800
>> Okay.

802
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,110
Um

803
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,117
Perfect.

804
00:33:17,117 --> 00:33:17,160
>> [laughter]

805
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:17,920
>> Thank you for your time.

806
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,200
>> Thank you. I appreciate it.

807
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,040
>> We've got the paperwork, we're preparing

808
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,360
it, and bringing it forward to council

809
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,680
as an agenda item. And we'll let you

810
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,040
guys know when that happens if you

811
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,000
decide you want to be here for

812
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000
>> quick question. Who should be the

813
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,920
contact person where No,

814
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:32,838
um

815
00:33:32,838 --> 00:33:36,270
>> [laughter]

816
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,078
» Everybody's pointing fingers.

817
00:33:38,078 --> 00:33:38,240
>> [laughter]

818
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,640
>> Um to work with the city of Puyallup on

819
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,880
amending the contract. I don't know who

820
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,680
that would be the

821
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,280
um

822
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,560
the key person that would get with them.

823
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,000
Is it our city attorney? Are they

824
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,880
>> It's usually the mayor, city attorney,

825
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,320
and myself that we go over review the

826
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,640
contract. Um but uh Michelle is on the

827
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,680
finance end of it, so.

828
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,880
>> Right. So, okay, well, we'll talk off

829
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,280
record about next steps of who's going

830
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,560
to be working with Puyallup and getting

831
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,159
that

832
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:08,840
>> Yeah.

833
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,600
>> done.

834
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,240
All right.

835
00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:11,560
>> Perfect.

836
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:12,919
>> Thank you so much for having me. I

837
00:34:12,919 --> 00:34:13,720
appreciate it.

838
00:34:13,720 --> 00:34:16,710
>> Thank you very much.

839
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:18,040
» Thank you.

840
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,159
>> All right, the uh next item on our

841
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,679
agenda is another presentation um

842
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,480
on the state of the Pierce County

843
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,120
Library.

844
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,879
I'm sorry, I don't have any names. So,

845
00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:29,960
if you could please introduce

846
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,600
yourselves.

847
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,960
>> Happy to do so. Good evening, Mayor,

848
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,440
council members. My name is Gretchen

849
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,639
Caserotti. I'm the executive director of

850
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:38,600
Pierce County Libraries.

851
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,280
Um and with me this evening is Chad

852
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,240
Harper, who's the library operations

853
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:44,360
supervisor at our Milton Edgewood

854
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,800
branch. And Steve, our regional services

855
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,679
manager, is helping to pass out copies

856
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:50,480
of the presentation, which I understand

857
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,159
you all have print copies of this

858
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:53,200
evening.

859
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,639
Thank you so much for giving us some of

860
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,120
your um time on the agenda this evening.

861
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,840
Uh it's with great pleasure that we get

862
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,880
to come out into the various

863
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,600
incorporated cities that are annexed

864
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,360
into the Pierce County Library system.

865
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,920
Go ahead, next slide.

866
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,760
Um and just share a little bit about

867
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,520
what's happening in the library. Uh I

868
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,320
started in this role in 2022 and um have

869
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,400
had the chance to work across Pierce

870
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,960
County, the 2,000 square miles from the

871
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,880
mountain to the sound of our service

872
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,840
area. If you're not familiar, Pierce

873
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,920
County Library system is a junior taxing

874
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,840
district. Um similar to the way school

875
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,600
districts are structured, we have a

876
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,520
governing body, a board of five

877
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,600
trustees, and um we we serve the annexed

878
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,640
cities within and the unincorporated

879
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,360
areas of Pierce County. Not Puyallup uh

880
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,840
and not Tacoma, um but the other cities

881
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,560
within. So, pleased to be able to come

882
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,640
out and share what's happening, meet the

883
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,640
elected representatives, and answer

884
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,480
questions that anyone might have about

885
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,800
the the happenings in the Pierce County

886
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,080
Libraries.

887
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,920
Um go ahead, next slide.

888
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,520
So, when it comes to finances, um we've

889
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,040
been working hard in recent years to

890
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,880
ensure that the library is increasing

891
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,800
our transparency around um the taxpayer

892
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,000
funds that fund the organization. We are

893
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000
about 97, 98% funded completely by

894
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,480
property taxes. Um by state law, there

895
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,720
are very few revenue opportunities for

896
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:15,360
library districts in the way that

897
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,920
municipalities enjoy.

898
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,680
Okay, you do have copies.

899
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,360
Um

900
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,800
and uh so, we are very heavily reliant

901
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,560
on that. And as you are all aware with

902
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,520
the 1% property tax cap in the state of

903
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,080
Washington. Um, our revenues are limited

904
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200
while expenses continue to grow. And

905
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,080
similar to your um,

906
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,640
drug court, um, the majority of our

907
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,680
costs go to personnel. About 66% of our

908
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,000
annual budget each year is to the people

909
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,960
who make the magic happen. We would

910
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,000
otherwise just have buildings with books

911
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,840
uh, around the Pierce County. And um, we

912
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,280
all know that you can uh, you can have

913
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,000
access to things, but then when you have

914
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,840
meaning, context, and support is where

915
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,600
um, people really have more value uh, to

916
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,640
what the library can bring to a

917
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,320
community. Um,

918
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,200
we uh, also have um, invested in more

919
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,000
transparency around the platform. So,

920
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,240
not just coming out to share with our

921
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,080
um, our representatives in this in the

922
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,960
county, but we have launched using

923
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,280
ClearGov. And so now anyone can view the

924
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,640
library's um,

925
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,640
funding in the budget uh, budget brief

926
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,080
documents that are available on the

927
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,040
website. And also through the um, SAO

928
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,440
for the state of Washington has a

929
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,600
financial intelligence tool. So, you can

930
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,240
also see where the money went. Um, and

931
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,440
um, really excited to continue to move

932
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,520
in that direction. Currently we're at 33

933
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,520
cents per thousand of assessed value.

934
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,960
And since I've been here that number

935
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,280
hasn't changed. We've been really

936
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,120
working to control expenses in the

937
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,000
ever-increasing environment um, and

938
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,560
knowing that we have no new revenue to

939
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,720
accommodate that. Um, so we've currently

940
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,160
held at 33 cents uh, for the recent few

941
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,160
years.

942
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,400
Uh, let's see. Next slide, please. The

943
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,480
small bit that is self-generated um,

944
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,720
we're really grateful to have such great

945
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:59,560
supporters in in um, formal structures.

946
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,840
So, we have a Pierce County Library

947
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,720
Foundation. And every October we do a

948
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:06,600
fundraiser which is actually fun. It is

949
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,680
a trivia bee um, where we all get

950
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,040
together and you get to nerd out um, for

951
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,880
a good cause. Our foundation provides

952
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,400
the support for book giveaways to

953
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,840
children in the summer as well as a

954
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,640
variety of other supports at the local

955
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,560
level in the individual branches as well

956
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,960
as for the system. And then we also have

957
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,840
uh Friends of the Library groups um and

958
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,120
Chad will tell you a little bit about

959
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,640
ways that community members can get

960
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,800
involved at our local branch here with

961
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,630
the Friends group.

962
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,680
» Hello. Um we have a really amazing, very

963
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,360
active uh Friends of the Library

964
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,440
organization that we share with the Fife

965
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,400
branch. We're the Fife Milton Edgewood

966
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,720
um Friends of the Library. We do um

967
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:52,040
periodically we have a book sale. People

968
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,720
uh people from the community come in and

969
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:56,360
donate uh books that people can come

970
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,800
into the branch and it's a little bit on

971
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,720
the honor system. We have a little box

972
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:03,600
for people to put in cash or a QR code

973
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,160
if they want to Venmo the Friends of the

974
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,800
Library to um

975
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,000
to buy used books. And then we uh the

976
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,920
librarians pull the money together and

977
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,000
work with our uh our volunteers with the

978
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,080
Friends of the Library to support um

979
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,640
various programs. People if we want to

980
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,120
have a speaker or a presenter uh come in

981
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,760
to one of our programs um and if they

982
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,400
have a speaking fee of some kind the we

983
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,720
are able to pay them from the Friends of

984
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:37,720
the Library funds.

985
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:40,390
Next slide.

986
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,520
Um sorry.

987
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,480
Um just a little bit more about the

988
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,160
Milton Edgewood branch. We were built in

989
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,240
2011. I think we're one of the newer

990
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:52,080
branches in the system. Um last year we

991
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,520
had a little bit more than 60,000 people

992
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:59,400
come through our doors and check out um

993
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,640
almost 83,000 books and materials.

994
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,960
That's books, music CDs, physical

995
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,880
audiobooks, DVDs, um as well as

996
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,240
magazines as well. We have 11,677

997
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:14,720
card holders and last year we had 48

998
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:18,160
classes and events and almost 500 people

999
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,280
in our community attended those events,

1000
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,230
as well. And then

1001
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,320
» And and excited to see the system

1002
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,680
growing that number overall. So, many

1003
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,760
libraries in America um in the

1004
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,960
post-pandemic environment are still

1005
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,480
working to return to pre um pre-COVID

1006
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,240
use. And in the time that I've been

1007
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:40,640
here, we've worked really hard with the

1008
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,760
new strategic plan in particular to

1009
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,960
build an internal system around

1010
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,320
programs. Um a lot of folks will come to

1011
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,800
library programs, even if they don't

1012
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,240
have a library card. You might have a

1013
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:51,920
grandparent who's helping to watch the

1014
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,400
kids on the weekend come to a storytime,

1015
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,200
or um a senior that works at a uh lives

1016
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,920
at a facility, and they bring a group in

1017
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,200
for a program. Um and so, we look at a

1018
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,720
variety of metrics, and programs is an

1019
00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:06,200
incredible strategy for people to come

1020
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,960
and discover new things at the library

1021
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,360
and connect with their community. So, we

1022
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,760
are going to be very excited to come

1023
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,000
back next year and let you know that

1024
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,800
those numbers are increasing uh in 2026.

1025
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,920
And as a system, that new strategic plan

1026
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,800
um was a refresh with our mission,

1027
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,040
vision, and values. The Board of

1028
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,520
Trustees approved that in 2025, and

1029
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,600
we're continuing to work forward and

1030
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,760
implement that in our operations and

1031
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,080
annual plans. Um I want to especially

1032
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,040
call out the um organizational value of

1033
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,840
transformative hospitality. And just um

1034
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,080
Council member Cedar, what I was hearing

1035
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,160
from you, for example, is we really want

1036
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,600
everyone who walks through our door, no

1037
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,000
matter where they come to from where

1038
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,360
they're at in their life, to feel

1039
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,600
welcome, to feel valued, to have a

1040
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,520
really personalized experience um where

1041
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:50,920
the staff are really meeting that

1042
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,680
person's needs, and that looks different

1043
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,760
for everybody. Every person who walks in

1044
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,160
the door is has got a whole life outside

1045
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,760
of this one interaction. Um and so,

1046
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,560
we're really leaning into that as an

1047
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,400
organizational value and how we want

1048
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,640
that to inform the services that the

1049
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,720
staff deliver every day.

1050
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:11,000
Next slide, those major goals include

1051
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,840
strategic partnerships, which is another

1052
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,320
reason why we're here.

1053
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,640
Um really looking to um break down

1054
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,840
siloed walls and and silos

1055
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,320
uh across the county where um you know,

1056
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,400
we're also working with peer navigators

1057
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,920
in some of our library branches. Um and

1058
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,520
in fact uh looking to be bringing in

1059
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,440
social work and to our practices and um

1060
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,080
partnering with law enforcement across

1061
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,960
the county. So, we really want to be

1062
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,720
purposeful and intentional in the way

1063
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:39,880
that we approach our partnerships um

1064
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,160
from everything from nonprofits to local

1065
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,560
governments, um as well as looking at

1066
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,320
important things to people across the

1067
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,200
county around environmental goals,

1068
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,440
practical financial goals um to make

1069
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,000
sure that our library operations are

1070
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,640
going to be able to be sustained into

1071
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,720
the future. So, that's just a snapshot

1072
00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:59,320
of our of our new strategic goal areas

1073
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,600
and couple of things coming up we want

1074
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,200
to tell you about and we'll get out of

1075
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,600
your hair.

1076
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,400
>> We try to have our librarians work

1077
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,160
really hard to

1078
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,800
Sorry. Try to have programs that meet um

1079
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,120
all age groups and all interests. Um we

1080
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,880
have an adult Medicare awareness class

1081
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,840
that is coming up. I would expect that

1082
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,800
to be very very popular. A few weeks ago

1083
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,920
we had a sort of an intro to estate

1084
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,880
planning. Uh we had an outside group

1085
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,200
come in and we were able to provide the

1086
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,240
space for that. Um

1087
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,160
but by the time the library branch

1088
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,040
opened we had a line that snaked kind of

1089
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,040
around the shopping mall where we are

1090
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,920
located. I think we had 50 people

1091
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,280
waiting to come in and then about

1092
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,120
another 20 came in shortly after the

1093
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,760
program started.

1094
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,840
Um so, I would expect this to attract a

1095
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,200
similar number of people. We do have a

1096
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,600
very active and robust book club that

1097
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,120
meets once a month and I don't remember

1098
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,080
what this month's book club book is. I

1099
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,440
should have looked it up before I came

1100
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,240
here.

1101
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:06,120
Personal librarian. Thank you. Yeah.

1102
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,880
Thank you.

1103
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,800
That entirely unplanned, I promise.

1104
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,125
Um

1105
00:44:12,125 --> 00:44:12,960
>> [clears throat]

1106
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,920
>> Yeah.

1107
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,760
We have a couple STEAM programs. Um one

1108
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,520
geared for um

1109
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,680
younger kids or kids of all ages um for

1110
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,480
a kids discovery lab program on

1111
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,400
Wednesday the 26th, and then one that's

1112
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,720
geared towards the teens in your life.

1113
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:28,720
Uh it's called a fantasy job board. And

1114
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:31,080
then we uh we have

1115
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,040
weekly story times every Monday from

1116
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,240
10:30 to 11:15, story time for babies.

1117
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:39,240
Um come in with your little ones and

1118
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,320
hear a really fun story. And then we

1119
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,800
also have a master gardeners uh program

1120
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,360
for teens as well that's focused on

1121
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,710
sustainability.

1122
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:51,160
No close?

1123
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,560
>> This impact story.

1124
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,440
>> Oh, sure. Uh I'm going to share an

1125
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,280
impact story that I thought of on the

1126
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,040
way here because it happened just this

1127
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,640
past Saturday, and I think it's kind of

1128
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,240
cool. Um we had on Friday we had someone

1129
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:04,800
come in who I'd never seen in the

1130
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,520
library before. They came in with a very

1131
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,640
um

1132
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:09,720
uh

1133
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:12,160
very haphazardly collected group of

1134
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,120
papers in a torn envelope and said,

1135
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,840
"Someone dropped these outside of the

1136
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,800
library, and I have no idea whose they

1137
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,520
are, but they seem important because

1138
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,480
they have things like birth certificates

1139
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,160
and a driver's license and other things

1140
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,120
in it."

1141
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,280
And so I thanked them for that, and then

1142
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,040
another staff member and I went through

1143
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,400
it to see if we recognized a name.

1144
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,440
Fortunately, because we didn't recognize

1145
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,320
the name, uh we found the driver's

1146
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,520
license in the pile.

1147
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,880
Um we recognized the photo of the

1148
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,000
patron, and I said, "I know who this

1149
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,120
person is because he comes in almost

1150
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,520
every single evening." And so the next

1151
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,440
evening, Saturday evening before I had

1152
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,920
left, he was in uh sitting at one of the

1153
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,760
tables in the branch just like he always

1154
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,480
is. And I went over to him and I said,

1155
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,560
"Did you happen to lose something very

1156
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,040
important outside the library?" And he

1157
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,440
says, "Well, what do you mean?" And I

1158
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,080
said, "Well, someone came in and said

1159
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,080
they had found this sitting laying on

1160
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,040
the sidewalk from outside the branch."

1161
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,480
And he says, "I'm not sure." And I said,

1162
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,160
"Well, let me go show it to you." So, I

1163
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,240
brought it out of our safe and I said,

1164
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:15,960
"Does this look familiar?" And he said,

1165
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,480
"Oh my god, this is filled with super

1166
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,200
important documents that I needed to

1167
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,880
send down to California to get my

1168
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,360
passport, blah blah blah blah blah." And

1169
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,560
so, we were able to reunite him with

1170
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,080
driver's license, bank cards, uh a lot

1171
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,920
of checks to be deposited, his birth

1172
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,320
certificate, and a lot of very important

1173
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,920
uh applications. And so, I like to

1174
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,440
think, yes, we're building with books

1175
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,680
and DVDs, but at the end of the day, I

1176
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,360
always think libraries are there to help

1177
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,960
people first and foremost. And so, um

1178
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,240
that was one of my more favorite

1179
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:47,960
stories.

1180
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,120
>> people turning it in.

1181
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,720
>> Thank you, Jen.

1182
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:54,160
>> Thank you all so much. We'd be happy to

1183
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,480
stand for any questions that you all

1184
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,320
might have. Um appreciate your time.

1185
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,400
>> Yes, Councilmember Roberts.

1186
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,360
>> Thank you, Mayor. I just had a question

1187
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,440
about the uh fantasy job board. What is

1188
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,760
that? It shows a teens uh teams STEAM

1189
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,120
program. I'm just curious what that is.

1190
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,840
>> Go ahead.

1191
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,872
>> I'm honestly not too sure.

1192
00:47:14,872 --> 00:47:15,720
>> [laughter]

1193
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:18,240
>> I I know that the teen programs do a lot

1194
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:20,280
with envisioning futures and youth

1195
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,400
development. So, while I don't know the

1196
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,160
details of this particular program,

1197
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,040
similar to like a fantasy football

1198
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,880
league, um they do a lot of really

1199
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,960
active programming with youth that make

1200
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,320
them like I don't What's the term?

1201
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,480
Gamify?

1202
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:32,680
>> Okay.

1203
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,160
>> Um and so, like our youth volunteer

1204
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,040
programs are also looking at what, you

1205
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,200
know, what are you good at and what do

1206
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,200
you want to do with your life? So, my

1207
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,080
assumption is that it's in that vein of

1208
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,760
making it fun to envision a future.

1209
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,640
>> Okay. Um do you know the age range? I

1210
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,640
mean, it says teens, so I'm assuming 13

1211
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,520
on.

1212
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:50,840
>> Yeah.

1213
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,480
>> I'm just curious for my own personal

1214
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,518
sign, that's all.

1215
00:47:53,518 --> 00:47:53,800
>> [laughter]

1216
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,200
>> To get them off the screen, that's all.

1217
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,440
>> Yeah. Because it's a STEAM activity and

1218
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,600
it's a fantasy job board, I'm going to

1219
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,440
make an educated guess pulling from my

1220
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,200
school librarian days and say maybe it's

1221
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,080
an activity where

1222
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,960
STEAM science, technology are

1223
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,440
coming up with ideas for

1224
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,120
fantasy science-y jobs that might exist

1225
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,520
in the future that they might want to

1226
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,600
invent or apply for someday. I don't

1227
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:21,028
know.

1228
00:48:21,028 --> 00:48:22,000
>> [laughter]

1229
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,680
>> Sure, why not?

1230
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,640
>> But generally teen programs are yeah, 13

1231
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,640
to 18. And no one gets carded for that.

1232
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,640
So if they're like 12 and a half,

1233
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,280
they're probably going to be fine.

1234
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,600
Parents get to choose or 19.

1235
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,110
>> Thank you.

1236
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,430
Any additional questions or comments?

1237
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,000
Thank you very much for coming this

1238
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,120
evening.

1239
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:42,960
>> a great evening.

1240
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:48,070
>> Thank you.

1241
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,080
All right. The next item on our agenda

1242
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,720
this evening is a public hearing

1243
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:55,560
uh for the comp plan amendment and

1244
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,560
zoning map. It's on page 15 of your

1245
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,120
packet and planning manager Stollsteimer

1246
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,480
will be presenting this item.

1247
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:04,913
>> Thank you. Um

1248
00:49:04,913 --> 00:49:04,960
>> [clears throat]

1249
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,520
>> this was introduced at the last meeting.

1250
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,600
Um to this is for the public hearing

1251
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,920
portion that is required.

1252
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,920
Um there will be It is on the agenda if

1253
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,840
there's any discussion, it won't be on

1254
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,680
for adoption until the first meeting on

1255
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:23,000
October. Just a quick recap. Um so the

1256
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,880
comprehensive plan, this is a joint

1257
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,800
hearing because there's a

1258
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:29,840
um

1259
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,640
comprehensive plan future land use map

1260
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,800
change and the corresponding zoning.

1261
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,080
They are tied together, so the comments

1262
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,880
can be received together. There's two

1263
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,880
parts to the comp plan. The first is the

1264
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,600
map proposal and it is tied to the

1265
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,000
private um request for 2801 Redwood

1266
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,120
Street to change from urban residential

1267
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,320
multi-family to uptown mixed use on both

1268
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,040
the future land use map and the zoning

1269
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,160
map. Just a refresher, it's currently

1270
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,920
zoned for

1271
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:03,440
multi-family which is apartments. But

1272
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,240
it's more at the density of 12.

1273
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:08,320
Where if it goes to the mixed use, it

1274
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,880
would be more of a density. It could go

1275
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,160
up to potentially 30.

1276
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,320
It also would have the potential of

1277
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,640
commercial uses if um

1278
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,000
the applicant if the current applicant

1279
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,080
is looking at housing but by changing it would change.

1280
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,320
It would give those options at some

1281
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,480
point. Just a quick

1282
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,840
point out

1283
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,080
for the council, their application forms

1284
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,320
is on page 73 and 74

1285
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,240
where they basically they're kind of

1286
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:40,480
making their argument. The idea that it

1287
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,760
does allow for

1288
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,600
a variety of

1289
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:45,720
um

1290
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:48,920
housing. There is a charge in the state

1291
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,600
as well as the comprehensive conference

1292
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,240
of plan to look to make sure that we

1293
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,160
have a mixed variety of both types of

1294
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,320
housing and pricing range of housing.

1295
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,040
And so um

1296
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,720
you know, there are parts of the

1297
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:01,520
majority of our city is single family

1298
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,680
homes. There's also some parts that are

1299
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,080
intended to be the more mixed use, the

1300
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,720
more apartments, a little bit higher

1301
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:10,160
density.

1302
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,880
Um and so there they have kind of worked

1303
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,000
through their how they feel like they

1304
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,880
meet the criteria for that. Um the

1305
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,320
second kind of half of the conference of

1306
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,080
plan amendments is the six-year capital

1307
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,760
improvement plans. I did go through and

1308
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,280
we should have um as at last time

1309
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,000
it sort of should have the most current

1310
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,080
numbers. I was thinking there was a

1311
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,840
question related to that. I was thinking

1312
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,480
Dustin will be back by today but Dustin

1313
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,480
is not back till Wednesday. So if there

1314
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,240
is any specific questions about the

1315
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:42,360
capital improvement plan, we can get

1316
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,960
those answered before October.

1317
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,560
Um

1318
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,080
so there is that. So at that point I

1319
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,400
will stop and we're able to open up the

1320
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,280
public hearing. And then, like I said,

1321
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,600
after the public hearing, the first

1322
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,240
agenda item is discussion if the council

1323
00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:58,000
has anything they wish to discuss or ask

1324
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,110
questions on.

1325
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,440
» Okay. Um it is 7:51

1326
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,760
p.m. and I uh open the public hearing.

1327
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,520
Is there anyone

1328
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,760
uh in the audience that would like to

1329
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,080
speak on this item? Yes, please come

1330
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,520
forward.

1331
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,720
Please give your uh your name and city

1332
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:17,486
for the record.

1333
00:52:17,486 --> 00:52:19,670
>> [snorts]

1334
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,000
» Good evening. My name's Taylor Wyman.

1335
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,640
I am

1336
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,480
real estate advisor for Roy Skinner and

1337
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,640
his family. I'm here on behalf of the

1338
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,240
land use comp plan change.

1339
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:36,120
So, any of you guys are familiar with

1340
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,240
what we've requested. Obviously, the

1341
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:41,920
Skinner family's owned this property for

1342
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,160
since 1986.

1343
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,480
And I know I've been in real estate for

1344
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,120
a little over 10 years now. Obviously,

1345
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,400
housing development can always be a

1346
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,480
little

1347
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,560
contentious, kind of depending on where

1348
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,600
it is.

1349
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,720
New development, not everybody loves.

1350
00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:00,200
Um so, I understand

1351
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,600
Ted's position.

1352
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:02,840
Um obviously, if you have lived

1353
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,320
somewhere for a while,

1354
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,760
own a single family home, maybe you

1355
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,240
don't want new development next door.

1356
00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:12,720
I think, obviously, looking at this

1357
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:14,600
from kind of the city's perspective and

1358
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,920
the comp plan, reviewing that,

1359
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,360
you know, over the next 20 years,

1360
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,960
looking forward,

1361
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,400
I don't see the city's

1362
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,680
determined

1363
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,840
that this area along Meridian Avenue

1364
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,040
is designed to be the mixed-use kind of

1365
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,880
center of the city.

1366
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,400
All right, you want the retail, you want

1367
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,360
it to be walkable, you want apartments,

1368
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:35,960
you want people to have a place to live,

1369
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,040
go out to eat, um you know,

1370
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,520
entertainment of that sort. So, I see if

1371
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:41,880
you, know, if you're looking at the map,

1372
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,680
you can see down, all right, if you look

1373
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,600
down 28th Avenue

1374
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,000
all the way down to Taylor Street,

1375
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,320
right, it's a pretty straight line.

1376
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,200
And then, this property in question,

1377
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,280
I'll see it would if that line continued

1378
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,200
would go right through it. But, I'll see

1379
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,480
with the map zoning and how you design

1380
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,680
it,

1381
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,440
you're not going to have two zones for

1382
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,760
one parcel. So, it went around it, you

1383
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,080
know, if it had gone through or if it

1384
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,160
was multiple parcels, you know, you

1385
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,720
probably would have maybe 2/3 of that

1386
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:14,600
parcel would be the Uptown mixed-use

1387
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,760
zoning versus the urban residential.

1388
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,120
Um so, and obviously like one of the

1389
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,240
main concerns would be impact to

1390
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:26,640
neighboring properties. I'll see to the

1391
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,360
east, you have already you know, Uptown

1392
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,400
mixed-use to the south, it's Uptown

1393
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,400
mixed-use. To the north, you have both

1394
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,640
Uptown mixed-use and then one

1395
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,040
kind of similar older single-family home

1396
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,000
that's URM. Uh and then you have the

1397
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,080
dock at Surprise Lake,

1398
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,520
which is obviously a large 330-unit

1399
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,200
apartment apartment complex to the west.

1400
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,440
So,

1401
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,160
you kind of you know, it's designed, you

1402
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,000
have the huge apartment complex. I think

1403
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,880
it would make sense

1404
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:55,560
um

1405
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,320
to increase the density from right now

1406
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,000
it's 36.

1407
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,200
You go to 90 units, I'll see it brings

1408
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,480
in, you know, more homes, more families,

1409
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,320
more people that are going down Meridian

1410
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,400
Corridor, spending money, going out to

1411
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,280
eat, kind of improving that. Um

1412
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,600
and also it's one of one of the few

1413
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,640
developable developable parcels along

1414
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,800
that corridor that's not already retail

1415
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,960
or um some buildings already on it.

1416
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,240
Thank you. So, I appreciate it.

1417
00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:24,040
>> Thank you very much.

1418
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,840
>> Uh yeah. Happy to answer any questions.

1419
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:27,680
Um

1420
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:28,800
I don't know if I can do that.

1421
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:29,920
>> Not in a public hearing.

1422
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:30,400
>> Okay.

1423
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:30,720
>> All right.

1424
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:32,520
>> Well, I appreciate your time and your

1425
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,080
consideration.

1426
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:33,720
>> Thank you.

1427
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:35,920
>> Anyone else uh

1428
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,960
wish to testify in the hearing.

1429
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,840
Yes, please come forward. State your

1430
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,160
name and and uh

1431
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,480
city for the record, please.

1432
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,280
>> Jacqueline Whalen, Milton, Washington,

1433
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,000
speaking as an individual citizen.

1434
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,640
And just request uh

1435
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,320
and discussion from staff

1436
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,000
on a question that I didn't really hear

1437
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,840
answered, which was

1438
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,280
really clarifying the distinction

1439
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,720
between someone putting in an

1440
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:06,240
application

1441
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:08,760
versus a zoning designation. What is the

1442
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,040
guarantee that the application is what

1443
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,520
actually will take place?

1444
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:19,920
And uh if staff could please comment on

1445
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,000
could a zoning change be done with

1446
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,120
conditions? I'm just like a master plan

1447
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,120
kind of thing. So, those were questions

1448
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,000
that citizens were asking me and I just

1449
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,240
wanted to pass them along. Thank you.

1450
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:32,640
>> Thank you.

1451
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,800
Any Anyone else like to testify this

1452
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,320
evening?

1453
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,040
Seeing none,

1454
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:45,310
I close the public hearing at 7:55.

1455
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,040
All right, moving on to our regular

1456
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,280
agenda.

1457
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,560
Um the first item on our

1458
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,000
regular agenda is on page 47 of your

1459
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,640
packet. It's the comp plan amendment

1460
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,120
ordinance 2146-26.

1461
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,910
And

1462
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:03,640
» Um again, I

1463
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,280
>> And the planning manager stopped there.

1464
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,280
>> So, um Like I said, both um A and B are

1465
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,200
on here. If there's any um further

1466
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,120
questions or discussions, this is

1467
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,760
legislative. So, it means that um

1468
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,240
it is the planning commission um made a

1469
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,600
rec- makes a recommendation. Council

1470
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,440
gets to make the final decision. Um

1471
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,040
there is

1472
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,160
some recommended criteria to kind of

1473
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,080
look at, but in general, the the plan is

1474
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,240
the council's discretion. So, you get to

1475
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,880
make that decision on if you feel like

1476
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,160
this fits within the overall

1477
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,480
comprehensive plan and then follow up.

1478
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,160
Um and to the a couple of the one

1479
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,120
question that you know, I said I kind of

1480
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,000
addressed the other the

1481
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,720
first comment that was earlier tonight

1482
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,080
just the idea that um

1483
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,200
it is zoned right now for apartments. It

1484
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,440
would be a higher density apartments.

1485
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,880
Um

1486
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,960
under the what they're proposing. Um I

1487
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,400
will clarify that again.

1488
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,920
There is no you can't link it to that

1489
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,640
per se. If you make the comprehensive

1490
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,640
plan amendment change and you make the

1491
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,800
zoning change, it does allow whatever is

1492
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,600
in that use table under that zone. So,

1493
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,040
you can't condition it or anything. Um

1494
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,200
so,

1495
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,680
there is that. Um at that point, I will

1496
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,960
see if there's just any other further

1497
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,840
dis- questions for me or discussion

1498
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,800
amongst the council. Um like I said,

1499
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,080
it's not on for action. It'll come back

1500
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,160
in October for that. It's still under

1501
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,030
state review.

1502
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,560
» Yes, Council member

1503
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:42,720
McNally Martinez.

1504
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,480
>> I just have a quick question. Do you

1505
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,880
know why that property wasn't zoned that

1506
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,600
way originally being that it's right on

1507
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,080
the edge? Is there a formula that's

1508
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:50,920
used?

1509
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,080
>> No, it was um

1510
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,480
so, that kind of line right down there

1511
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,400
um

1512
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,960
most some of this was actually light

1513
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,840
industrial.

1514
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,160
And so, um

1515
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,360
the feeling was that didn't make sense

1516
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,760
to light industrial on the corner. This

1517
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,600
was already multi-family. So, we just

1518
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,360
left it as multi-family. It didn't it we

1519
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,920
just left that one. That wasn't one we

1520
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,240
were looking at changing. Um

1521
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,560
but we did change all of this to away

1522
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,680
from light industrial. Again, did not

1523
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,080
make sense to um match what was above

1524
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,960
which was sort of going to be that um,

1525
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,600
mixed use.

1526
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,080
>> There was no specific reason for that.

1527
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,560
>> no specific, it's just that's what it

1528
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,520
was and there was no um,

1529
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:38,520
you know, what we were looking at

1530
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:39,880
change, you know, there was definitely

1531
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,320
some some areas that just didn't that

1532
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,760
felt like needed to be changed. Um, but

1533
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,840
some areas if there wasn't a clear

1534
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,870
reason to, we didn't.

1535
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,640
» Any Any additional questions? Yes,

1536
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,670
Councilmember Mounts.

1537
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,360
» Thank you. And thank you for the

1538
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,200
really helpful chart on page 79.

1539
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,280
My understanding, and I think you just

1540
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,600
told me this, um, told us this,

1541
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,720
is it could be used for multi-family

1542
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,640
dwelling units, child care centers,

1543
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,640
religious institutions,

1544
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,280
adult family homes, restaurants,

1545
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,320
mercantile, personal professional

1546
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:17,760
services,

1547
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,280
and offices, those types of things.

1548
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,560
Would that,

1549
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:22,720
um,

1550
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,000
of course, logically require

1551
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,840
new roads to go in, coming coming out on

1552
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,400
Taylor, probably, so there'd be

1553
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,360
um, an exit onto Meridian and an exit

1554
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,160
onto Taylor. It's probably really

1555
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,240
premature for these

1556
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,280
kinds of questions, but I drove over

1557
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,000
there today and and I took a look at

1558
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,320
that area.

1559
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,560
Um,

1560
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,760
>> Yeah, so whatever, um,

1561
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,440
at this point, what you would be doing

1562
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,600
is simply saying, could those uses

1563
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,400
change? And yes, when we go to our use

1564
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:57,560
table,

1565
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:58,320
um,

1566
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,000
right now it's under URM,

1567
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,600
which for the most part is primarily

1568
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,120
just residential uses. It'll be moved to

1569
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,880
UMX, which is both residential and there

1570
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,320
are some commercial, quite a few

1571
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,680
commercials, because it is mixed use.

1572
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,720
Um, anything that they would still have

1573
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,680
to go through the four the full land use

1574
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,160
application process. So, depending on

1575
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:22,720
what it is,

1576
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:23,720
um

1577
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,400
in most most likely whatever they do,

1578
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,600
it's going to be a major um site plan.

1579
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,440
So, application's going to come in.

1580
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,120
Um it will be reviewed by, you know, and

1581
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,760
they will be required to have a traffic

1582
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,320
impact study. They will be required to

1583
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:39,640
show us all of where they're going to

1584
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:40,800
put roads, how they're going to deal

1585
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,360
with storm, how they're going to deal

1586
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,160
with parking, all of that. It gets

1587
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,400
reviewed by our engineers. Um notices go

1588
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,240
out um 500 ft to all of property owners.

1589
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,240
If there's enough interest, we would

1590
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,640
hold a neighborhood meeting. That's sort

1591
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,360
of an option depending on how many

1592
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,560
people are interested in that um if they

1593
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,480
want more information. And then like I

1594
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,360
said, it it uh um everything goes

1595
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:04,920
through the planning department, the

1596
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,560
community development department, but it

1597
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,760
um we're looking for fire to say yes,

1598
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,520
this looks good. The engineers to say

1599
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,160
yes, this looks good. Our traffic

1600
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,160
engineers saying yes, this looks good.

1601
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,200
Utilities. And then um and usually what

1602
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,960
they get is an approved site plan if it

1603
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,240
meets all the criteria. They may have

1604
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,480
some conditions. And then they then they

1605
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,040
go through civil, which is the fine-tune

1606
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,480
actual approving of exactly where those

1607
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,640
lines are going to go, and then building

1608
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,160
construction. So.

1609
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,240
>> So, thank you for that. And if I can

1610
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,520
piggyback on that, um given what Council

1611
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,080
member Cedar said last week,

1612
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,760
we're looking to strike a balance

1613
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,920
between affordable housing and urban

1614
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:49,360
development and commercial and canopy

1615
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,080
preservation. There's a lot of trees on

1616
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,560
that lot. It looks like that whole

1617
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,600
corner is wetlands. Um

1618
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,080
how would you how how would we or how

1619
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,960
would I

1620
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,880
strike that balance because it's a a

1621
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,680
large parcel given that that the

1622
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,800
Skinners own those three parcels

1623
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,320
together. And if it's zoned for future

1624
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,800
development, we're losing a big chunk of

1625
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,040
residential

1626
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,760
potentially. I mean, if we if we approve

1627
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,680
the zoning change, there's nothing to

1628
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,720
stop them from doing more commercial

1629
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,200
than there is

1630
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,480
residential, right?

1631
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:31,870
>> So, yeah, so um

1632
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,720
the

1633
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,280
just to kind of

1634
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,680
again

1635
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,080
until things are approved and final

1636
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,160
there's always things. But, the current

1637
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,240
proposals this right this property right

1638
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,800
here um

1639
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,280
is currently under contract with it is

1640
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,760
commercial and it's under contract with

1641
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,640
a commercial business and at that point

1642
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,080
I think that's going through. So, what

1643
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,920
this current um

1644
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,040
proposal is tied to would be this lot

1645
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:01,360
and this lot and this one is already um

1646
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,200
uptown mixed-use.

1647
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,400
Um so, yes, it

1648
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,840
you know, the current plan would be the current proposal

1649
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,720
is that it would be multi-family at a

1650
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,880
higher density than you can do um under

1651
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,880
multi-family. So,

1652
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,440
if but yes, once it's changed, if that

1653
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,920
deal fell through, somebody else could

1654
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,440
potentially look at it for something

1655
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,110
else.

1656
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,760
» Thank you.

1657
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,160
>> Councilmember Massie, do you have

1658
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:32,320
>> Thanks.

1659
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,920
Uh so, I think that the tool

1660
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,960
well, as I stated last week or whenever

1661
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,200
we talked about this, I'm I'm opposed to

1662
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,200
this.

1663
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,840
Um I I think the tool to guarantee that

1664
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,640
this is used for residence is is called

1665
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:48,520
a development contract under RCW 36.70B

1666
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,480
170

1667
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,680
sequentially after that. Um

1668
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,400
that would guarantee that any rezone is

1669
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:56,880
under a contract that goes with the

1670
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,000
property and can't be used for

1671
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,360
commercial uses.

1672
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,280
But, even if we were to do that and

1673
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,720
guarantee that this is used for

1674
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,040
high-density residential in this area,

1675
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,280
you know, into the future, it still

1676
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,520
doesn't solve the problems that come

1677
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,040
with a rezone. And those problems, you

1678
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,080
know, we just heard some from

1679
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,320
Councilmember Mounts, but

1680
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:17,880
the other people around there, the

1681
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,440
setback gets reduced to virtually

1682
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,960
nothing, the building height increases

1683
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,600
exponentially. Um the the trees are

1684
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,640
going going to be gone. I mean, it just

1685
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,520
it's so counter to what we are trying to

1686
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,040
do.

1687
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,880
And I I don't see any compelling reason

1688
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,760
to do it. I appreciate, you know,

1689
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,560
um Mr. Skinner having a representative

1690
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,680
here. And I appreciate that he bought

1691
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,680
those three lots at I'm I'm sure a quite

1692
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,720
a deal back in the '80s. Um and that

1693
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,280
they're worth a lot right now, but

1694
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,440
that's not what our zoning code is meant

1695
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,440
to do. And as soon as we rezone, we lose

1696
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,360
control, even if we try to put something

1697
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,320
some attachment to the property.

1698
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,120
And frankly, with even with the best

1699
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,960
intentions right now,

1700
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,920
15, 20, 25 years, if that turns in it

1701
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:01,240
becomes more profitable to make that a

1702
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,120
self-storage unit, then that's what

1703
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,200
it'll be. And I think that we have a

1704
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,920
duty, because I've never talked to a

1705
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,080
constituent who says they want more high

1706
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,800
density on the corridor reading quarter.

1707
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,160
That's what Edgewood has done, and I've

1708
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:14,800
heard nothing in the time I've been on

1709
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,120
council, but we don't want that. We want

1710
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,280
gentle density if we have to have it.

1711
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,560
And increasing the density there is not

1712
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,800
gentle density. So, I'm adamantly

1713
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,160
opposed to this. I've not heard any

1714
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,680
compelling reason to support it. Thanks.

1715
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:33,830
>> Any additional questions or discussion?

1716
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,000
All right, so this is going to be going

1717
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,520
to the planning commission?

1718
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,080
>> No, it'll come back to the council in

1719
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:40,160
October.

1720
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:40,520
>> Okay.

1721
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,840
>> For um action, which could, again, uh

1722
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,920
council has the authority to

1723
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:50,640
um approve, with, you know, changes or

1724
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,440
amendments, or deny.

1725
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,240
>> Okay. Will there be any more public

1726
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:55,400
hearings?

1727
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,920
>> There's not public hearings. Um the city

1728
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,440
I mean, council usually does take

1729
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,760
comment on an action item.

1730
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,640
So, and it is legislative, so it's it's

1731
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:05,840
like if you go through a hearing

1732
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,880
examiner, there it's quasi-judicial, you

1733
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,120
have to be very

1734
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,080
careful how you do things cuz it's sort

1735
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,000
of like a judge. With legislation, you

1736
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,880
are allowed to talk to constituents,

1737
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,920
even talk to the applicant

1738
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,240
as long as you're not doing a quorum or

1739
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,720
something, so

1740
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,360
it does have a little bit more

1741
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,120
flexibility.

1742
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,880
But yeah, it'll come back to council.

1743
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,720
And like I said, we always usually we

1744
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,360
take comment before action. So, if

1745
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:29,680
there's

1746
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:30,840
>> All right.

1747
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,400
Thank you. So, we will move on to

1748
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,640
regular agenda item B, the zoning map

1749
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,240
ordinance

1750
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,720
on page 77, and this is a discussion

1751
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:41,880
item.

1752
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,120
>> Is there anything additional or was it

1753
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,120
covered under comprehensive plan?

1754
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:48,600
We're all good.

1755
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,080
>> Are we good? Okay.

1756
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,040
Then let's move on to

1757
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,600
item C, which is an action item on page

1758
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,280
85,

1759
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:01,710
budget amendment ordinance, and

1760
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,280
Finance Director Robeck will be

1761
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,280
presenting this item for us.

1762
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,080
>> Thank you, Mayor and Council. The

1763
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,000
proposed ordinance provides adjustments

1764
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,560
to the 2026 budget as adopted by City

1765
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,240
Council in December of 2025.

1766
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,120
This is the second ordinance amending

1767
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,640
the 2026 budget and reflects changes

1768
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,440
that have occurred since adoption of the

1769
01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:23,880
original budget. These adjustments are

1770
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,359
detailed in the accompanying exhibits A

1771
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:27,680
and B.

1772
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,880
Exhibit A is a modification to the wage

1773
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,520
scale for one position title only. If

1774
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,080
approved, this amendment would change

1775
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,400
the position title of planning manager

1776
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,240
to community development director. This

1777
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:40,920
new title better aligns with the

1778
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,440
position's current duties and

1779
01:08:42,440 --> 01:08:44,000
responsibilities,

1780
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,880
and more information regarding this

1781
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,960
position is included in the next agenda

1782
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,720
item 8D.

1783
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,200
This ordinance was presented at the

1784
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,839
study session on August 10th for first

1785
01:08:53,839 --> 01:08:55,080
reading.

1786
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,040
And I'd be happy to answer any questions

1787
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:03,120
once And a motion is made.

1788
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,160
>> All right, would somebody like to make a

1789
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,880
motion? Yes, Council Member Roberts.

1790
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,000
>> Thank you, Mayor. Uh move to adopt the

1791
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,799
ordinance 2144-26

1792
01:09:11,799 --> 01:09:14,920
amending the 2026 budget as detailed in

1793
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,279
exhibits A and B.

1794
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:21,910
>> Second.

1795
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,040
» Oh, okay.

1796
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,000
I'll give it to Council Member Hall.

1797
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,359
Is that right? Okay.

1798
01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:27,400
Um Council Member Roberts, would you

1799
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,640
like to speak to your motion?

1800
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,920
>> Um I would not. Thank you.

1801
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,080
>> Okay.

1802
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,279
Council Member Hall, would you like to

1803
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:36,480
speak to your second?

1804
01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:39,880
>> I appreciate this coming to Council.

1805
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:40,880
Um

1806
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:46,269
we're always looking to

1807
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:48,080
keep up with

1808
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,359
um what our workers are doing and the

1809
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:54,960
jobs they're doing um and make sure that

1810
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,520
um they align

1811
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,720
with with the city needs.

1812
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,280
Um I've personally worked with

1813
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,960
Angie Angeli uh for number of years and

1814
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:13,150
she's a hard worker and deserves

1815
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:19,750
» All right. Any uh additional discussion?

1816
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,520
Uh Council Member Cedar.

1817
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,880
>> Thanks. Um I I noticed that we dropped

1818
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,160
the economic portion of that. What was

1819
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,080
the decision for that?

1820
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,400
>> There actually wasn't a decision. The

1821
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,680
information that was provided to me when

1822
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,720
I created the budget amendment had the

1823
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,440
economic development in there and I was

1824
01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:41,200
later corrected that um or that

1825
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,240
information was later corrected and so

1826
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,840
we we

1827
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:45,760
um

1828
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,520
I it was just it was a correction and not a

1829
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,040
conscious decision.

1830
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,560
>> Uh understood. Thank you. I I think it's

1831
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,600
a good title. I think it matches what um

1832
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,040
Planning Manager Stahlnacker and

1833
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:59,120
hopefully Director Stahlnacker does

1834
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:00,920
works very hard for the community.

1835
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,040
Um I have a question about on page 93,

1836
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,560
which is regarding fund 503, information

1837
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,240
technology fund.

1838
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:13,760
Um I notice here, and maybe I don't know where this originated, the

1839
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,560
adjust budget for new website hosting

1840
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,280
and AI agent services.

1841
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,760
$44,000. Can you tell me about that that

1842
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:21,640
line item?

1843
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,040
>> Um possibly the mayor can help me a

1844
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,640
little bit with this as well. Um we're

1845
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,400
transitioning

1846
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,840
to a new website host, and this is kind

1847
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,800
of the the front end for setting up that

1848
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,920
new website host. So, our old website

1849
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,680
hosting

1850
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,640
costs will go away and these will

1851
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,000
replace it. It's just that there's a bit

1852
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,520
of a crossover period

1853
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,040
in 2026, where where we have both the

1854
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,520
implementation of the new system and

1855
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,880
paying the remainder um

1856
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,480
of the old system. I don't know if

1857
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:57,720
there's anything

1858
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:58,480
>> uh

1859
01:11:58,480 --> 01:11:59,800
there's been a lot of complaints about

1860
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:05,000
our website and about how hard it is to find things. And so, we have we have

1861
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,920
looked um

1862
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:11,680
out to other cities and what other uh

1863
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,960
vendors are out there. And we have found

1864
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,320
one. This is

1865
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,360
uh it's about What was it we just paid?

1866
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,240
It's about $28,000,

1867
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,120
I believe. Um

1868
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,760
that we're that we're it's an upfront

1869
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,800
fee in order to pay uh for them to

1870
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,120
design and

1871
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,800
implement. And it should take between 6

1872
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,400
and 8 months.

1873
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,040
So, it's it's a it's a one-time charge

1874
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:46,240
to to essentially rebuild our website. And

1875
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:47,720
part of that website is going to have an

1876
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,400
AI agent that will um, that will crawl

1877
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,560
the site and and you'll be able to ask,

1878
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:55,720
um,

1879
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:56,600
>> Um,

1880
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:57,200
I feel like

1881
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,840
>> English prompts and and it will be able

1882
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,120
to go through all of the ordinances and

1883
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:03,320
everything that's available on the

1884
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,120
website and give a, uh,

1885
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,840
an English answer

1886
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,520
to, um,

1887
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,160
to the query. So, if somebody says, "Do

1888
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:13,680
I need a,

1889
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:14,800
uh,

1890
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,200
do I need a permit to build a fence?"

1891
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,760
It will not just give you a link to that

1892
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,840
area of the code, it will actually tell

1893
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,800
you, um, what you need to do in the

1894
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,440
process you would need to do in order

1895
01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:30,200
to, um, to do that. And it will also,

1896
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,880
uh, take away, um,

1897
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,640
it will, should, I'm hoping that it will

1898
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:35,920
take away,

1899
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:36,920
uh,

1900
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,920
the, the need for people to call into

1901
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,160
the city and, and use staff time,

1902
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:43,160
uh,

1903
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,040
to be able to walk people through this

1904
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:46,800
because, again, the biggest complaint

1905
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,000
that that I have heard from people is

1906
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,600
that they can't find anything on on our

1907
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,000
website and so they're calling in and

1908
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,080
asking staff uh, to tell them what to

1909
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:58,560
click on in order to get what they're

1910
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,040
looking for. So,

1911
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,240
um, I'm just trying to, uh, make the

1912
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,640
website, uh,

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much more user-friendly

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and, uh,

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and ultimately free up some, uh, some

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staff time. So.

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>> Okay. So, this wasn't something that was

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budgeted for in our original budget,

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correct?

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>> That's correct. Yes, yes.

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>> So, it, obviously, it's it's below our

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threshold for approval, but

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Right.

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>> Um, yes, because the it it is it's two

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pieces. There's the website hosting

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piece and then the AI agent piece. And

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so, each of those,

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um, the those are distinct individual

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pieces, um,

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and

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contracts or invoices that were under,

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um,

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the separate council approval level of

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40,000.

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>> Yeah. I'll just note that, you know, I

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found that line and I went back and

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reviewed to try to figure out where that

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came from and I was a little troubled

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that it wasn't actually kind of briefed

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in here cuz 44,000 like it's not

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nothing. That's a big budget adjustment.

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So, you know, just moving forward, I

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would appreciate like having that right

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up front. Um

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it felt a little hidden here since it

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doesn't appear in the ordinance that

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we're passing

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and it doesn't appear in the previous

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ordinances for the budget. So.

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Thank you.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Sure. Noted.

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Um

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and it's it's not going to be that much

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in this budget year. The other half is

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going to be

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in next year. So, we probably didn't

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really even need to make it this big,

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but

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we weren't sure at the time

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um

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until we got the contract and found out

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that they

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were were paying for it in thirds. So.

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>> Yeah, sorry. And and I would note I

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think it's a good I mean

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modernizing our website's a good idea.

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Ho- hopefully get like a little clippy.

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>> [laughter]

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>> Let's hope not.

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All right. Um any further discussion?

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Okay, it's been uh moved by

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Councilmember Robertson and seconded by

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Councilmember Hall

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uh to adopt ordinance

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Oh, I'm sorry. This is an action item.

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Is there anyone from the audience that

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would like to uh

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comment to Council before this is voted

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on?

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All right. Again,

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uh it's been moved by Councilmember

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Robertson seconded by Councilmember Hall

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to adopt ordinance 2144-26

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amending the 2026 budget as detailed in

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exhibits A and B. All in favor?

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>> Aye.

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>> Any opposed?

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Motion passes unanimously.

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Okay, moving on to

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item D, title change to the community

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development director on page 95 of your

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packet. This is an action item.

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And looks like I am presenting this

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item.

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Um

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tonight I am asking for your

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confirmation of [clears throat] Angeli

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Stonelake

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as the city of Milton's Community

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Development Director. Angeli has served

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as our planning manager for the past 5

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years. And I'm requesting that we make

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this title change to formally recognize

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the level of responsibility she has been

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carrying and the leadership she has

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demonstrated.

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Uh this is not simply a change in title.

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This is a recognition of the expertise,

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experience, and leadership Angeli has

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brought to the city of Milton and the

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expanded role she will continue to

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provide with within our organization.

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Angeli brings a strong educational and

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01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:24,840
professional background to this

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position. She holds a Bachelor of

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Science in Geography and Regional

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Planning with a minor in Political

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Science. She is also currently pursuing

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01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,360
a Master's degree in Management and

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01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:37,320
Leadership through Western Governors

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01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:38,680
University.

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Angeli uh recently graduated from the

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Northwest Women's Leadership Academy, a

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01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,360
leadership development program

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associated with the City and uh County

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Management Association. Uh this

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leadership training has further

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strengthened her ability to work

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collaboratively, manage complex issues,

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communicate effectively, and provide

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strong leadership in municipal

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environment.

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Uh most importantly, Angeli brings more

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than 20 years of professional experience

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in urban and city planning, long-range

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planning, and environmental design.

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Her experience gives her a broad

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understanding of how planning decisions

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affect not only the individual projects,

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but also the long-term growth,

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development, infrastructure, and quality

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of life of the entire community.

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Her expertise includes comprehensive

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planning, land use issues, development

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regulations, long-range planning,

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environmental considerations, and the

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many competing interests that come with

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a responsible community development.

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These are areas that require both

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technical knowledge and the ability to

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work effectively with residents,

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property owners,

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uh developers, elected officials, and

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other agencies.

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The community development director

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position is an important leadership role

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within our organization.

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This position is responsible for

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overseeing the city's planning and

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community development functions,

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supporting uh responsible growth and

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development, working with residents and

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businesses, coordinating development

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activities, and helping ensure the

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city's planning and development

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processes are uh conducted

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professionally, efficiently, and in

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accordance with applicable laws and

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regulations.

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In my uh it is my honor this evening to

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request the affirmation of council to

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support my decision to appoint Angely

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Stalnecker as community development

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director and approve the corresponding

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title change.

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During her five years as Milton planning

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manager, Stalnecker uh uh

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planning uh manager Stalnecker has

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demonstrated professionalism, knowledge,

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and dedication to our community. She has

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developed a strong understanding of

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Milton's unique planning needs,

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01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:49,960
our community priorities, and the

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01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,720
challenges associated uh with uh

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01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,520
managing growth while maintaining the

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character and quality of life that our

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residents value.

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She has also demonstrated the ability to

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01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:02,840
take complex planning and development

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01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,120
issues and work through them in a

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01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,480
thoughtful and professional manner. Her

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01:20:07,480 --> 01:20:09,600
experience allows her to look beyond the

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individual application or project and

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01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,200
consider the broader impact on the

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01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,200
community and the city's long-term

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01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:17,880
goals.

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01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,200
Her contributions have not gone un- gone

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unnoticed.

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In uh 2024, Angely was recognized as the

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01:20:25,480 --> 01:20:28,320
City of Milton's Employee of the Year.

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I believe that recognition speaks to the

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01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,080
level of commitment, professionalism,

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01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,480
and service she has consistently

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01:20:35,480 --> 01:20:38,240
demonstrated to our organization and our

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community.

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In making this recommendation, I want to

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share that I have spoken with members of

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01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,560
our senior leadership team, as well as

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members of our community.

2111
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:49,240
There is a high level of confidence in

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Angelie's ability, uh

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01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,040
professionalism, and judgment. I believe

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it is important to formally recognize

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01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,280
the leadership role she has already been

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01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,480
providing and give her the appropriate

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01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:01,520
title

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and authority to continue that work.

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On a professional level, I have had the

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opportunity to work with Angelie and

2121
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,640
observe her professionalism, dedication,

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01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,120
and commitment to the city of Milton. I

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01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,640
have seen firsthand her willingness to

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01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,160
take on challenges, work collaboratively

2125
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,400
with others, and uh

2126
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,160
help move important projects forward.

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01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,520
I also believe that Angelie's extensive

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planning background provides the city

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with an important level of institutional

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01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:30,440
knowledge.

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01:21:30,440 --> 01:21:32,120
As Milton continues to experience

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development and faces increasingly

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01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,440
complex planning and community

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01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:36,960
development issues,

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01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,680
having a leader with her depth of

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01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,520
experience is a significant asset to our

2137
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,280
organization.

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01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:44,440
I believe this title change

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01:21:44,440 --> 01:21:47,960
appropriately reflects the ability uh

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01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,280
that the level of responsibility Angelie

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01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,000
has been uh

2142
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,880
taking on and provides the city with a

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01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,000
strong and experienced leader

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01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:57,960
uh for our community development

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01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,520
functions. As mayor, I am very pleased

2146
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:01,880
to have Angelie Stahlnacker as a

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permanent member of my leadership team.

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01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:05,840
I believe the city of Milton will

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benefit greatly from her experience,

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01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,560
technical expertise, leadership

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01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,280
abilities, professionalism, and

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continued commitment to our community.

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Therefore,

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Council, I I respectfully request your

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01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:19,960
affirmation and approval of my

2156
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,720
appointment of Angelie Stahlnacker as

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Community Development Director for the

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city of Milton.

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Yes, Council member

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>> Move to approve the confirmation of

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01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,480
Angeli Stallnecker to the position of

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01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:36,920
community development director.

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01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,470
>> Second.

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01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:41,000
» Uh it's been moved by Council member

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Hall and seconded by Council member uh

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01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:44,480
Poor. Council member Hall, would you

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01:22:44,480 --> 01:22:46,120
like to speak to your

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01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:46,880
motion?

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01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:50,680
>> Again, um Angeli is available. I mean,

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she has

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01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:54,160
I've seen her work on Sundays. I've seen

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01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:56,120
her work Saturdays. I've seen her work

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all this weekend um

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01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,200
for multiple days talking to people. Um

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01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,520
her dedication to the citizens and the

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01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:05,640
city

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01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,720
um

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is above reproach.

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01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:12,560
» Thank you, Council member Poor. Would

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01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,520
you like to speak to your second?

2181
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,320
>> Thank you, Mayor.

2182
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,040
That's twice you had to beat me to the

2183
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uh punch there.

2184
01:23:19,017 --> 01:23:20,040
>> [laughter]

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01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:20,720
>> Sorry.

2186
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:21,920
>> Um

2187
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,800
Mayor, thank you for presenting that uh

2188
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,480
honor honored words and um

2189
01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:29,000
everything that you shared on how hard

2190
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,720
she works and serves the community. Um

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01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,440
all the hats she has to wear and thank

2192
01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:35,120
you for um

2193
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,400
awesome endorsement.

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01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:38,667
Hard to follow that.

2195
01:23:38,667 --> 01:23:39,560
>> [laughter]

2196
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,640
>> Um I personally can attest that Angeli

2197
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,960
has been wonderful to work with. Um

2198
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,720
you know, the biggest thing I've worked

2199
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,400
with her on is the tree ordinance and

2200
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,680
she's been very kind, patient, um

2201
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,800
been able to come and compartmentalize a

2202
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,640
lot of the different questions and also

2203
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,800
uh helped me with different areas. Um

2204
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,600
and especially being a new council

2205
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,280
member, I feel that your presentations

2206
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,160
have been really wonderful in general

2207
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,200
across the board. And just really

2208
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,920
appreciate um how kind you are and and

2209
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,640
how hard it is to wear so many different

2210
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,760
hats and you probably do the work of

2211
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,480
several positions.

2212
01:24:19,480 --> 01:24:22,440
Um and so I appreciate that you took the

2213
01:24:22,440 --> 01:24:24,440
time to honor so much of what she does.

2214
01:24:24,440 --> 01:24:25,600
Thank you.

2215
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,240
And thank you for your service.

2216
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,640
>> Any additional discussion? Yes,

2217
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,070
Councilmember

2218
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:34,760
» I just want to acknowledge with

2219
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:38,360
gratitude putting the job description in

2220
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:39,960
writing so that it becomes part of the

2221
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,680
record and it's a

2222
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,200
very complex job description.

2223
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,200
For sure.

2224
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:48,720
>> Councilmember Roberts.

2225
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:50,360
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um just on a personal

2226
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,880
note, thank you uh for all you do. Thank

2227
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,760
you for meeting on with me on Friday um

2228
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:56,960
when the city's closed. I really

2229
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,960
appreciate all you've done again to uh

2230
01:24:59,960 --> 01:25:01,960
reiterate the sentiment of John uh

2231
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,920
Councilmember Poor, being a new

2232
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:05,320
Councilmember. I mean, you're a pleth-

2233
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:09,720
plethora plethora of knowledge. So, um

2234
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,200
using all your information, all your

2235
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:12,800
knowledge, all your extensive uh

2236
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,000
education, etc. has been extremely uh

2237
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,320
helpful. So, thank you for that.

2238
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:22,080
>> Any additional discussion?

2239
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,240
Seeing none, it's been moved by uh

2240
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,400
Councilmember Hall and seconded by

2241
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,320
Councilmember Poor to approve the

2242
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,440
confirmation of Angeli Salnecker to the

2243
01:25:30,440 --> 01:25:31,920
position of Community Development

2244
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,120
Director. All in favor?

2245
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:35,920
>> I.

2246
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,640
>> All opposed? Any opposed?

2247
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,560
Motion passes. And I forgot to ask if

2248
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,080
the audience wanted to

2249
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:44,429
say anything.

2250
01:25:44,429 --> 01:25:53,190
>> [applause]

2251
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,520
» ALL RIGHT.

2252
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,160
MOVING ON TO item E, the Salary

2253
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,840
Commission Ordinance on page 103. It's

2254
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:04,720
an action item and uh Finance Director

2255
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,800
Robeck will be presenting this item.

2256
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,640
>> Thank you again, Mayor and Council.

2257
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:11,480
Compensation for city council members

2258
01:26:11,480 --> 01:26:14,400
has been fixed at $400 per month since

2259
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,520
at least 2002.

2260
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:17,720
Since [snorts] this amount has been

2261
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:19,600
unchanged for over 20 years, staff is

2262
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,960
proposing the establishment of a salary

2263
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:23,880
commission to review the compensation of

2264
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,840
elected officials.

2265
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,360
This ordinance was presented at the

2266
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,600
study session on August 10th for first

2267
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,200
reading. Some minor language changes

2268
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,160
were made and a requirement that salary

2269
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,760
commission member members be residents

2270
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,280
of the city was added based on

2271
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,120
discussion at that at this meeting. Um

2272
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,480
the primary language changes were uh

2273
01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:47,000
changing wages and benefits to just

2274
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,840
compensation. I think those were the

2275
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:52,360
only um text changes other than adding

2276
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:53,160
uh

2277
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,120
the requirement that the residency

2278
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,720
requirement. Um I'd be happy to take any

2279
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,800
additional questions uh once a motion is

2280
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,110
made.

2281
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,520
» Would anyone like to make a motion? Yes,

2282
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:06,920
Councilmember Recede.

2283
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:10,280
>> Uh move to adopt ordinance 2145-26

2284
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:14,870
establishing a salary commission.

2285
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:19,230
» Second.

2286
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:20,400
» Councilmember Recede, would you like to

2287
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,920
speak to your motion?

2288
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:24,160
>> Rather than ask leading questions, I'm

2289
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:25,200
just going to say the things that I

2290
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,240
think are important, which is that

2291
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,560
the the council's pay, nobody here is

2292
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,640
doing it for the pay, and this is the

2293
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,320
alternative

2294
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,640
um to council setting its own pay in the

2295
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,360
future. So, this is an independent

2296
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:39,840
commission

2297
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:40,840
that the citizens can then have a

2298
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:42,440
referendum on

2299
01:27:42,440 --> 01:27:45,040
if if they see fit. So,

2300
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:46,280
I I think this is a good thing for

2301
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,480
moving forward to hopefully increase

2302
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:50,320
council participation, more citizens

2303
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,680
willing to join without viewing it as a

2304
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:54,280
strain on time, and actually being

2305
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:55,640
fairly compensated for the work that

2306
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,120
goes into this. So, um yeah, happy to

2307
01:27:58,120 --> 01:27:59,800
see this.

2308
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:00,920
>> Councilmember Roberts, would you like to

2309
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:02,480
speak to your second?

2310
01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:04,040
>> Uh yeah, so I just reiterate the same

2311
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,000
sentiments as uh Councilmember Recede.

2312
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,960
Uh it's been a long time since anybody

2313
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,680
in councils uh got an change, but again,

2314
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,920
we're we're all doing this uh you know,

2315
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:13,960
because we love to help out the

2316
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,960
community, etc. So, um this does allow

2317
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,000
the opportunity to potentially have any

2318
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:20,920
kind of increase or decrease for that

2319
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,560
matter. So, uh yeah, it's it's uh it's

2320
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:25,920
due. So, thank you.

2321
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,480
>> Any additional discussion? Council

2322
01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:30,950
member Hall.

2323
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,000
» I agree we all deserve it. Um we work

2324
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,200
hard.

2325
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,320
Um I feel like this was premature. I

2326
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:39,840
really think it should have happened

2327
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:41,880
after budget or

2328
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,160
at least we knew what the budget is for

2329
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,920
next year. Um because this will not come

2330
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,360
back to council.

2331
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:53,360
This will be enacted, correct?

2332
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,040
And

2333
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:58,030
that

2334
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:01,760
gives me pause, um because our first job

2335
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,600
is really the budget.

2336
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,120
Um

2337
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:07,920
and we have no way of knowing what the

2338
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,320
costs

2339
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:10,600
could be.

2340
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,320
Um but again, you can't do it without it

2341
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:15,280
because you can't do the budget. So,

2342
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,520
it's

2343
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,600
it it makes me nervous.

2344
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,480
Um

2345
01:29:23,480 --> 01:29:25,320
we could cause

2346
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,440
farther deficit to the budget.

2347
01:29:28,440 --> 01:29:30,880
>> Finance Director Rubik, um

2348
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:32,640
I I believe [clears throat]

2349
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,160
that if anything were to happen, it

2350
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,840
would happen prior to the budget

2351
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:40,720
being enacted, correct?

2352
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,480
>> Um yeah, well, the the budget I I'm I'm

2353
01:29:43,480 --> 01:29:45,640
not sure how quickly the I've never been

2354
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,360
involved with the salary commission

2355
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,280
before. I'm not sure how quickly um

2356
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:52,880
people could be appointed and a decision

2357
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,960
could be made. Um the budget is due to

2358
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:58,080
be adopted um

2359
01:29:58,080 --> 01:29:59,840
set to be adopted either the first or

2360
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:01,680
the second meeting. It's usually at the

2361
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,360
first meeting in December. Sometimes um

2362
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,200
it has been the the meeting. Uh so, if

2363
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,280
all of that could happen before that, I

2364
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,720
could incorporate it into the 2027

2365
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,080
budget

2366
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:15,400
for approval.

2367
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:19,480
>> I I believe I saw it's 60 days

2368
01:30:19,480 --> 01:30:21,480
>> once once appointed. Yes.

2369
01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:23,720
>> Once appointed, 60 days.

2370
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:27,480
>> Mhm. With the option to extend that with

2371
01:30:27,480 --> 01:30:29,560
council approval.

2372
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,030
>> Oh, we could extend it.

2373
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,800
Okay. All [clears throat] righty. Thank

2374
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,880
you.

2375
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,870
>> Any additional discussion?

2376
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,240
This is an action item. Would anyone

2377
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:43,960
from the audience like to speak on this

2378
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,480
issue before the council votes?

2379
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:51,617
Yes, please come forward.

2380
01:30:51,627 --> 01:30:54,790
» [laughter]

2381
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:59,360
» Um okay. I have some comments on it. So,

2382
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,240
I dislike the timing of it. I'm not

2383
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,360
against salary commissions. Um I looked

2384
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,240
into it when we were going through the

2385
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,400
salary thing back in 2020.

2386
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:13,600
Um what concerns me is because there is

2387
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,080
no guardrails on this, the state doesn't

2388
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:20,400
limit um like it does with Pierce County

2389
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,720
or with counties, the increase.

2390
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:24,320
Um

2391
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:27,840
since it's been so long, if council

2392
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,440
would be willing to at this point do

2393
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:33,480
something, at least you know within your

2394
01:31:33,480 --> 01:31:36,160
budget what you're willing to do, and

2395
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,480
then next time appoint a salary

2396
01:31:38,480 --> 01:31:42,600
commission, just to bump it up somewhat.

2397
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,480
Um to me that seems more reasonable.

2398
01:31:45,480 --> 01:31:48,400
And the other concern I had is with the

2399
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,720
ordinance, under duties and process,

2400
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:53,720
item C,

2401
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,400
the salary increase shall be effective

2402
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,640
on the next payday for city employees

2403
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,040
once it's confirmed. Shouldn't it

2404
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,040
acknowledge the referendum process?

2405
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:07,840
Meaning you have to wait the 30 days

2406
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:12,040
and then it would be on the next day.

2407
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:15,040
Cuz you I don't know can you claw back

2408
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,920
if it if the referendum happens. I

2409
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:20,160
wasn't sure.

2410
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,600
So, cuz this this ordinance doesn't

2411
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,920
mention the referendum process at all.

2412
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:30,630
So, thank you.

2413
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,280
» Yes.

2414
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:35,630
Please come forward.

2415
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:39,120
» Susan Johnson did I said Ditto. That's

2416
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:40,840
not my last name.

2417
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:44,200
Ditto. I agree. Um I don't think this is

2418
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:49,320
the time. I understand that we are under

2419
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,240
in the city for our council many many

2420
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,560
years. And I'm not opposed to a raise.

2421
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,040
I'm opposed right now because we do not

2422
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:00,760
know what the economy is going to be. We

2423
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,080
don't know what grants are going to come

2424
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:06,280
in. I I I think because there's so much

2425
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:10,160
uncertainty in our economic condition in

2426
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:12,960
the United States right now, this isn't

2427
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:16,240
the time. Wait till 23. If you're doing

2428
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,280
a three-year budget proposal concept or

2429
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:20,640
two-year,

2430
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:24,000
we don't have enough data right now with

2431
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,760
what's going to happen economically in 2

2432
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:27,880
years.

2433
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,280
So, I agree that maybe if y'all want to

2434
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,560
give yourself a little something, but

2435
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,760
we've got more increasing in this coming

2436
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:36,640
budget

2437
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,280
than income and different things

2438
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,280
happening. It looks like the cost to

2439
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,640
drug that the drug courts were going to

2440
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:44,960
get money, but there's still going to be

2441
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:48,040
costs associated with everything.

2442
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:49,880
This is not the time. We're getting

2443
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:53,320
taxed more. The people are we have to do

2444
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:56,800
the public safety tax.

2445
01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:00,120
And I think regular citizen

2446
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:01,880
understands,

2447
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,440
you know, you've given your time and

2448
01:34:04,440 --> 01:34:06,680
your effort and believe me, I've done a

2449
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,120
lot of years in this city since I moved

2450
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,320
here in 2009.

2451
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:12,480
And I remember being [clears throat] on

2452
01:34:12,480 --> 01:34:14,640
council at 400 and I said, "Gee, with

2453
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,480
the hours I put in, hmm, that comes down

2454
01:34:17,480 --> 01:34:19,360
to a cent a minute."

2455
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,720
Because I'm committed to the city. So,

2456
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,480
don't get me wrong. I understand.

2457
01:34:24,480 --> 01:34:26,480
But I think

2458
01:34:26,480 --> 01:34:29,840
the common person says, "I'm not getting

2459
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,680
anything right now, either. It's just

2460
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:35,040
hard right now economically for so many

2461
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:36,360
people."

2462
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,840
So, I'm asking to say yes, I agree. I

2463
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,400
think we should have had one before.

2464
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,360
And it didn't happen. I'm saying, go

2465
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,720
ahead and do one, but put it for a year.

2466
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:47,960
Again, the ref

2467
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,680
referendum's very important to note and

2468
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,520
documentation.

2469
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,600
So, I'm just asking you to delay it.

2470
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:59,560
Let's see what 27 is like

2471
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:03,000
and try to set it for 2028.

2472
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:04,920
I I think it's really important because

2473
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:06,720
I think we're going to be

2474
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:09,680
really hit, and that's just my bias,

2475
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,960
more with costs, taxes, and economic

2476
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:17,030
stress. Thank you.

2477
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:18,640
» Yes, anyone else? Yes, please come

2478
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:23,230
forward.

2479
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,400
» Jacqueline Whalen, Milton, Washington.

2480
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:26,560
Thank you for the opportunity to

2481
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,200
comment. I'll do the word

2482
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,240
text issue

2483
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:34,400
on page 106 of 114.

2484
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,840
I'm curious to know what an official is.

2485
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:38,240
Does that mean someone from the Civil

2486
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:42,200
Service Commission can't be on the

2487
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:44,560
salary commission? Just a question.

2488
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,560
There's nothing in there that talks

2489
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:48,880
about grounds for removal from the

2490
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,040
commission. Some cities do list that.

2491
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:53,560
Uh

2492
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:57,160
duties and process uh paragraph A

2493
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,640
um there should be some better wording

2494
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:00,760
in there.

2495
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,880
Um it's missing uh well, I'll just go to

2496
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:05,200
the sentence. The salary commission

2497
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:06,520
shall convene and determine the

2498
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,680
compensation paid

2499
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,360
to the mayor and city council within 60

2500
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:13,320
days of confirmation

2501
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:15,240
by the city council. It just there needs

2502
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,520
some extra words like

2503
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,000
the city council their confirmation uh

2504
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:21,760
for the I can put it in there later.

2505
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:26,080
It's it's equivalent to what is in C

2506
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,320
where it talks about

2507
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:31,920
a date within the time frame of when the

2508
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,400
commission

2509
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,640
was confirmed by city council.

2510
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,320
So, sorry about my muddied uh comment

2511
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:40,240
there.

2512
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,040
Uh but C

2513
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:42,720
um

2514
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:45,920
this these two paragraphs don't jive.

2515
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:47,560
If you're saying that the review and

2516
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:49,640
determination time

2517
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,960
uh has to happen in 60 days

2518
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:57,040
and C says within the 60 days

2519
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:58,840
the turn determination has to be turned

2520
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:00,080
in, you still have a whole legal

2521
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:01,880
process, you still have the referendum

2522
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:05,880
process. There's no real due date.

2523
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:08,240
I've seen some cities that talk in terms

2524
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:10,480
of the commission shall meet at such and

2525
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:12,360
such a month. They shall meet on certain

2526
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,480
days. Their work shall be due by such

2527
01:37:14,480 --> 01:37:16,000
and such a date. That gives time for

2528
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:20,000
legal that gives time for a referendum

2529
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,240
process because referendum as I

2530
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:24,080
understand it is limited to certain

2531
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,880
elections. So, there's there's just a

2532
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:28,720
lot of

2533
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:30,600
I know this is based on some another

2534
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:34,520
city's code but uh there's just a lot of

2535
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,720
open space in there for me.

2536
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:37,880
Um

2537
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:39,360
the premise that more money's going to

2538
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,600
make more candidates, I don't know.

2539
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:43,280
Where's the proof? How much money is

2540
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,280
that going to take? The people who are

2541
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:46,800
going to be on the salary commission,

2542
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:48,360
where do they get their education? What

2543
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,840
I mean is it just look around? There is

2544
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:53,040
no competition here. You can't say,

2545
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,120
"Well, I'm going to go be the mayor in

2546
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,200
such and such a city." You are mayor

2547
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,640
where you reside. So, competition isn't

2548
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:02,080
a factor if that's the thinking of

2549
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,440
here's why we should be doing more.

2550
01:38:04,440 --> 01:38:06,080
Um

2551
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,560
who's the staff liaison? There's just

2552
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:10,600
there's been no real presentation of how

2553
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,120
this thing is to work given the fact

2554
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:14,920
that we've never done it before. It'd be

2555
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:16,240
kind of nice to know what we're getting

2556
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:18,960
into. Thank you.

2557
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:20,080
>> Thank you.

2558
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:21,840
Any additional

2559
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:25,440
public comment before the vote?

2560
01:38:25,440 --> 01:38:28,360
All right, seeing none.

2561
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,160
It's been moved by Council Member Cedar

2562
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,280
and seconded by Council Member Roberts

2563
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:36,600
to adopt uh ordinance 2145-26

2564
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,800
establishing a salary commission. All in

2565
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:39,920
favor?

2566
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:40,800
>> I.

2567
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,320
>> Any opposed?

2568
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:43,320
>> Nay.

2569
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:45,000
>> Okay.

2570
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:46,280
It's

2571
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:53,550
passed. What do we have? Uh 5 to 1.

2572
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:54,760
All right.

2573
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,840
The next item on the agenda is item 8F

2574
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:00,120
on page 109 of your packet, the police

2575
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:04,880
vehicle surplus resolution 26-2006.

2576
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:06,840
And uh Chief Hernandez will be

2577
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:09,280
presenting this item for us.

2578
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:10,640
>> Good evening, Council and guests.

2579
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,680
Tonight uh bringing before you a

2580
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,120
recommended action to approve resolution

2581
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:16,360
26

2582
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:19,000
2006 declaring obsolete police equipment

2583
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:20,800
to be surplussed and authorized and

2584
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:22,640
disposed.

2585
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,760
Um many years ago uh we went through an

2586
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:29,000
amortization process and uh we agreed as

2587
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:30,040
a

2588
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,440
you agreed as a legislative body

2589
01:39:32,440 --> 01:39:34,920
that it made more sense when a car's

2590
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,280
value um depreciates to the point that

2591
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:40,440
the repairs are more than the value of

2592
01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:43,480
the vehicle that we go ahead and surplus

2593
01:39:43,480 --> 01:39:45,520
those vehicles and this vehicle has

2594
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:47,960
reached that service life. It's 12 years

2595
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:50,960
old, has 83,000 miles on it. And so

2596
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:52,160
tonight what I'm asking is the

2597
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:53,840
authorization to go ahead and dispose of

2598
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:57,230
this vehicle.

2599
01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:58,360
All right.

2600
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:02,870
I'd entertain a motion at this time.

2601
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,040
Council member Cedar.

2602
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,040
>> I move to approve resolution 26-2006

2603
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:09,920
declaring obsolete police equipment to

2604
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,960
be surplus and authorizing the disposal

2605
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:16,390
of same.

2606
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:17,400
» Council member Cedar, would you like to

2607
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,160
speak to your motion?

2608
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:20,560
>> No. I always appreciate you bringing

2609
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:22,640
this forward and our robust discussions

2610
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,720
about the fleet. Thanks, Chief.

2611
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:25,680
>> Council member Moss, would you like to

2612
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:27,000
speak to your second?

2613
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:30,230
>> Thank you for keeping track.

2614
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:32,320
» Any additional discussion?

2615
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:35,400
Council Council member Hall.

2616
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:38,480
>> Chief, that is one of the best cars

2617
01:40:38,480 --> 01:40:39,920
to drive

2618
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,760
because when you sit in it, you go down

2619
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,400
into it, you feel like you're in a cage

2620
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,720
and you it it is very comfortable. Um

2621
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:51,160
but yes, they do get squeaky and wonky

2622
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:54,240
and steering is

2623
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:55,680
hard to drive.

2624
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:57,320
Um but

2625
01:40:57,320 --> 01:41:00,350
it was a good car.

2626
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:02,749
» It'll be available for sale.

2627
01:41:02,749 --> 01:41:03,200
>> [laughter]

2628
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:04,800
>> What was that?

2629
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:07,520
>> I said it would be available for sale.

2630
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:08,440
>> No, it would be available.

2631
01:41:08,440 --> 01:41:09,300
>> yes.

2632
01:41:09,300 --> 01:41:10,040
>> [laughter]

2633
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:11,200
>> Okay.

2634
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:12,680
Uh Council member Roberts.

2635
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:14,539
>> When?

2636
01:41:14,539 --> 01:41:15,880
>> [laughter]

2637
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:17,480
>> When will it be for sale?

2638
01:41:17,480 --> 01:41:20,760
>> Uh what we usually do is we invite um at

2639
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:22,360
least five people

2640
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:24,400
or five companies. We put out an

2641
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:28,120
advertisement to place a bid and so

2642
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:29,080
um

2643
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:30,760
then whoever the highest bidder is is

2644
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:32,440
the one who gets the bid.

2645
01:41:32,440 --> 01:41:34,480
So.

2646
01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:36,560
>> Yeah, anyone out there interested, uh

2647
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:37,600
feel free [laughter] to

2648
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:39,160
contact the city.

2649
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:43,190
Any additional discussion?

2650
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:44,680
It's an action item. Is there anyone in

2651
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:46,280
the audience that would like to speak on

2652
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:48,640
this issue?

2653
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:50,760
Okay, seeing none. It's been moved by

2654
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:52,160
Council Member Cedar and seconded by

2655
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:54,000
Council Member Mounts

2656
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:57,760
to approve resolution 26-2006

2657
01:41:57,760 --> 01:41:59,880
declaring obsolete police equipment to

2658
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:02,160
be surplus and authorizing the disposal

2659
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:03,960
of same. All in favor?

2660
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:04,680
>> Aye.

2661
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:06,520
>> Any opposed?

2662
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:09,000
Motion passes unanimously.

2663
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,710
All right.

2664
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:14,560
Moving to council reports.

2665
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,600
Council Member Roberts.

2666
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,040
>> Thanks, Mayor. I just like to thank the

2667
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,640
events committee for a great showing of

2668
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:25,080
Milton Days. I'd like to thank Kylie

2669
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:26,680
personally for all that she's done for

2670
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,040
that.

2671
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:29,360
She worked a lot with the vendors and I

2672
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:30,680
appreciate all the work because I mean

2673
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,120
we had great food, great vendors, etc.

2674
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:35,240
So, we put on a a good show. And I've

2675
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:36,800
been living in Milton for 12 years and

2676
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:37,960
this is the first time I've had the

2677
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,200
opportunity to actually attend Milton

2678
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:43,040
Days. So, it was a a good time.

2679
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:44,440
So, yeah, thank you

2680
01:42:44,440 --> 01:42:48,600
to to everybody that was part of the Milton Days.

2681
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:50,080
>> Council Member Mounts.

2682
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:52,791
>> Ditto. Can I do that?

2683
01:42:52,791 --> 01:42:53,040
>> [laughter]

2684
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:56,120
>> Ditto. It was It was uh

2685
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,000
very interesting to go to Milton Days

2686
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:03,320
and I enjoyed the bouncy houses and the

2687
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:06,360
kids. They all had a good time. I agree

2688
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:08,320
with some of the earlier comments,

2689
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:11,080
public comments that were made for

2690
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,760
points of refinement. And

2691
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,040
just nice to see the community

2692
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:18,480
come together.

2693
01:43:18,480 --> 01:43:21,600
>> Thank you. Council Member Cedar.

2694
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:23,600
>> I Milton Days was great. Thanks so much

2695
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,200
for everyone

2696
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:26,960
putting together, being there. Just

2697
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:27,920
great to see the community come

2698
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,800
together. A lot of great comments.

2699
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:32,920
>> Council Member Poor.

2700
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:33,800
>> Nothing.

2701
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,200
>> All right. Councilmember Hall?

2702
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,040
>> I'd like to thank the city for National

2703
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:42,240
Night Out. Um police department

2704
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:44,790
um

2705
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,920
great job, bouncy house,

2706
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,520
um the touch-a-truck.

2707
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:54,280
Um that is probably the most kids I've

2708
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:58,080
ever seen at any event for City Milton.

2709
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:01,000
Uh events was fun. Um yes, there is some

2710
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,920
room for refinement. Um I think we

2711
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,960
probably need to go through um jobs for

2712
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:11,080
who's responsible for what.

2713
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:14,630
Um and

2714
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,200
so the volunteers understand that the

2715
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,640
city employees are the ones

2716
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:22,830
they go to.

2717
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:24,640
» Councilmember McNally-Martinez?

2718
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,760
>> Um I just want to ditto on the Milton

2719
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:28,120
Days. I was very impressed with the

2720
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,680
vendors and the volunteers. Um

2721
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,480
I work for a city that has a lot of paid

2722
01:44:32,480 --> 01:44:35,320
staff that does a lot of the jobs that I

2723
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:38,560
saw volunteers doing 100% by themselves,

2724
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:41,840
and I appreciate that, and um thank you

2725
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:46,190
for doing that for our community.

2726
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,040
» All right. Moving on to director

2727
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,000
reports. Uh

2728
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:51,680
I was going to say planning manager

2729
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:55,520
Stallnecker, but uh

2730
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:57,360
I'm sorry. What is your new title?

2731
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:58,552
>> Director.

2732
01:44:58,552 --> 01:44:58,840
>> [laughter]

2733
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:00,840
>> Director. I'll just call you Director

2734
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:04,670
Stallnecker.

2735
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:05,840
» Um

2736
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:07,720
a couple things real quick. Uh following

2737
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,240
up for Milton Days, um

2738
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:11,920
since Dustin's not here, I will do a

2739
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,400
shout-out to the crew who was there

2740
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:17,440
early, was there late. They set up, they

2741
01:45:17,440 --> 01:45:19,200
tore down, they were there throughout

2742
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:20,760
the day picking up garbage and doing

2743
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:23,880
stuff. Um they were really helpful, and

2744
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:26,080
um and they

2745
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:28,000
and that's sort of a volunteer I mean,

2746
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:29,640
we need people to do it, but we sort of

2747
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:31,600
start with who wants to do it. And I

2748
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,480
appreciate all of them that were there.

2749
01:45:33,480 --> 01:45:35,560
Um, yeah, there was some

2750
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,310
um

2751
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:39,920
some adjustment at the last minute that

2752
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:41,280
had that kind of got us tucked in the

2753
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:42,520
corner

2754
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:43,280
um

2755
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:46,320
between the fish and the stage and

2756
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:47,000
um

2757
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,643
it was fine. I mean, it was loud.

2758
01:45:49,643 --> 01:45:50,120
>> [laughter]

2759
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:52,120
>> And um it was you know, we probably

2760
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:53,240
didn't reach as many people as we would

2761
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:54,600
have liked. We did get to talk to a lot

2762
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:56,520
of people in line for the fish. So, that

2763
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,520
was good. A lot of kids came over. Um

2764
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:03,600
Framework was there kicking off the um

2765
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:06,600
the climate's information um

2766
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:08,600
and so we got surprise surprise the

2767
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:10,080
number one thing people definitely

2768
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:13,120
always care about is sidewalks and bike

2769
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,760
connections and then obviously

2770
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:16,720
um

2771
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:19,800
trees and safe parks and all of that.

2772
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:22,640
So, we will kind of process some of that

2773
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:23,360
um

2774
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:25,480
and we'll be looking at um

2775
01:46:25,480 --> 01:46:27,560
some an outreach or a

2776
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:29,080
We're working on

2777
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,600
um a committee that will sort of

2778
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,560
cover a lot of the different, you know,

2779
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,560
getting the Puyallup Tribe involved, um

2780
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,640
different agencies involved, different

2781
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,040
residents involved to help guide some of

2782
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,000
that work. So, that's all coming.

2783
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:45,600
Um we just switching to Planning

2784
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:47,720
Commission um

2785
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,320
I we just heard today that it's not on

2786
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,400
YouTube. Um

2787
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:54,040
it is a new person that's running it.

2788
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:56,920
She is pretty sure it recorded. Her fear

2789
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,360
she didn't click the thing that launched

2790
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:02,440
it onto YouTube. So, we have an email

2791
01:47:02,440 --> 01:47:04,920
out to our tech people. They will look.

2792
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:07,000
Sometimes it defaults and saves it on

2793
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:09,080
the computer and if you don't hit the

2794
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:12,240
right button to make sure it gets

2795
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,080
posted. So, fingers crossed we have the

2796
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:16,920
recording um

2797
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:19,560
and that we can post it later. Um and

2798
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:21,240
her and I will go through it again and

2799
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:22,800
make sure we're hitting all of those

2800
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:26,360
boxes. So, apologize for that. Um and

2801
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:27,920
then we are another thing with planning

2802
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:30,080
commission. I will be gone the week of

2803
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:32,080
September 8th for a conference and

2804
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,000
that's when the next regularly scheduled

2805
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:35,800
planning commission is. So, the planning

2806
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:38,320
commission is basically moving that to

2807
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:40,600
August 26th. So, a week from Wednesday

2808
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:42,280
we will do

2809
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:43,040
um

2810
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:45,240
that meeting will sort of take place of

2811
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,880
the September meeting. Um we are talking

2812
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:50,840
we are um reviewing some the kind of the

2813
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,840
next proposal for trees that the city

2814
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:56,320
council kick um sent back to them, as

2815
01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:59,000
well as looking at some um

2816
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:01,880
updates to definitions and table of uses

2817
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:04,480
and stuff. So, that'll all be coming

2818
01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:07,120
back in September. So,

2819
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:08,720
um I think that's it. And then thank you

2820
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,830
for all the nice words.

2821
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:14,040
» Thank you. Um Finance Director Robey.

2822
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:15,600
>> No comment.

2823
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:16,800
>> Chief Fernandez.

2824
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,360
>> Uh just want to reiterate National Night

2825
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:21,200
Out was great and really want to thank

2826
01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:22,840
Jessica and Nils for all the hard work

2827
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:24,440
that they did and it's the biggest

2828
01:48:24,440 --> 01:48:26,120
turnout that I've seen in 12 years that

2829
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:28,520
I've been here. So, we'll continue with

2830
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,280
that tradition every year

2831
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:32,240
and make it bigger. And it was nice to

2832
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:33,960
meet and greet with the community.

2833
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,200
Milton Days was great and want to thank

2834
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:38,320
all the volunteer staff and all the help

2835
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:39,960
that they provided, the events

2836
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,520
committee, and a special shout out to

2837
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:44,640
Jessica, Nils, and Tim for their

2838
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,160
tireless effort on the staff end of

2839
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,480
coordinating and working with the events

2840
01:48:49,480 --> 01:48:51,120
committee to get this all pulled

2841
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:52,160
together.

2842
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:54,920
And uh we have a tentative agreement

2843
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:56,400
with the guild where we're waiting their

2844
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,200
vote and so I'll be bringing the uh

2845
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:02,200
hopefully a completed uh and ratified

2846
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:03,640
agreement back for council's

2847
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:05,920
consideration. And uh we're quite

2848
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,120
pleased with uh

2849
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:10,120
the bargaining and how fast it was able

2850
01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:12,120
to happen.

2851
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:13,080
And

2852
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:14,560
if you say something, if you see

2853
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,640
something, say something.

2854
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:19,720
And together we're stronger.

2855
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:21,160
>> Thank you, Chief.

2856
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:22,280
Um

2857
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:24,280
I noticed that we do have one of the

2858
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:26,920
members of our events committee here,

2859
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:28,720
and if

2860
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:31,120
you'd indulge me, I'd like to give her a

2861
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:33,000
hand for

2862
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:37,310
>> [applause]

2863
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:39,000
» for putting together a great Milton

2864
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,400
Days, and

2865
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:44,000
six of the seven members were brand new,

2866
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:45,840
and so

2867
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,430
they

2868
01:49:48,440 --> 01:49:51,760
I'm impressed. Thank you so very much.

2869
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:53,040
Um

2870
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:57,520
I was a chauffeur on for most of the day

2871
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,560
for Milton Days. I was

2872
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:02,480
taking vendors back and forth uh

2873
01:50:02,480 --> 01:50:04,800
to parking at the in the morning and

2874
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:06,440
also in the afternoon.

2875
01:50:06,440 --> 01:50:08,120
And

2876
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:10,520
the comments that I got in the afternoon

2877
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:13,280
were that the repeat vendors were saying

2878
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:16,960
that it was the the best Milton Days

2879
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:20,680
that they had experienced so far.

2880
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:23,160
And that uh

2881
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:24,760
that they were looking forward to next

2882
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:27,480
year. And so

2883
01:50:27,480 --> 01:50:28,560
yeah,

2884
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:30,680
the events committee and the city staff

2885
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:32,440
that supported them

2886
01:50:32,440 --> 01:50:34,200
did a wonderful job. And thank you so

2887
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:35,280
very much, and thank you to the

2888
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:38,120
community for making it such a success.

2889
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:41,480
Um with that is there

2890
01:50:41,480 --> 01:50:44,640
anything else for this evening?

2891
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:46,560
Okay. Uh seeing that all agenda items

2892
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:48,000
have been concluded, I adjourn this

2893
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:51,960
meeting at 8:00