Okay, then.
>> Are we good?
It's 7:00 p.m. on Monday,
August 17th, and I call this regular
city council meeting to order.
Uh Council Member McNally Martinez, will
you lead us in the flag salute, please?
» I pledge allegiance
>> to the flag
of the United States of America.
And to the republic for which it stands,
one nation under God, indivisible, with
liberty and justice for all.
» All Um
Uh all council is here with exception of
Council Member Turnis.
Uh she's asked uh
to be excused. Can I get a uh
Can I get a motion to excuse her?
Yes, Council Member Poor.
>> Move to excuse Council Member Turnis's
uh absence.
>> Second.
>> It's been It's been moved in second and
all in favor.
>> Aye.
Any opposed?
Motion passes.
All right, next item on the agenda is
citizen participation and we have uh two
people who have signed up today.
And I can't read your handwriting. I'm
sorry. It looks like your last name is
Jones.
Oh, Susan Johnson. Oh my gosh.
>> [laughter]
>> It depends on which personality comes
out.
>> [laughter]
>> Okay, well, I've never seen this one
before.
>> I'm laughing. I write left-handed.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
Thank you, sir. Susan Johnson Milton.
It was a treat to see all the youth in
the parade this year. It felt like just
a small town and we're surrounded by
this massive growth.
Isn't that the truth?
I mean, it really felt it this weekend.
The Parks Board pickleball scramble was
loads of fun for us and the people
involved. Teenagers and adults played.
The winners were given medals, gold,
silver, and bronze. We ended around 2:30
p.m., cleaned up, and took the equipment
down to the city tent in the lower
field.
I was a little bit mystified that the
city booth
abutted the right side of the stage when
you face it from the tent where people
sit with that speaker reverberating as
hard and loud as it did.
I loved the music. I even danced and I
think they got photos of me.
Unfortunately, don't tell my husband.
But, however, conversation was
impossible at the city tent. Staff
needed to wear earplugs for the auditory
protection from the sound of the stage.
And I mean, they were right at the
stage. Framework, who worked with the
city on our growth management plan was
there also with their information. Our
planning staff had very important
information to share with the citizens
and glean comments on their opinions,
especially in re to the proposed tree
canopy ordinance.
My opinion is the city booth should not
be hidden. It should be close to the
entrance of any event. Two tents were at
the entranceway along Oak Street in the
lower park. At the time I was there, I
did not see anybody present.
This is sad because it diminished the
role of the city and its info
that it wants to have to interact with
our citizens and to answer any
questions, especially re planning
uh and our zones with framework being
there.
Another thing I heard is um and my
comment is this, the lack of golf carts,
which we have had in the past, citizens
so enjoyed the interaction riding with
the volunteers and talking about Milton
days in past years and meeting new
people. That climb up to the street
parking up at the school or higher up
Oak is very hard on some people.
And I'm not talking about me.
And who on some people who are not
considered eligible for ADA. In the
past, there were four to five carts that
were always busy.
In fact, even the ones that were used by
the mayor and one other staff person
would be called into need to move people
up and down and it was a constant flurry
up and down Oakway and maybe around
lunchtime it settled down. I want to
thank you, council members Hall, Cedar,
Roberts, and Martinez for being in the
parade and meeting her constituents
at Milton days.
To the events committee, you should be
proud of their first Milton days and
take kindly suggestions for the future.
It is You know, I'm from the south and
one of our sayings is it's not necessary
to throw out the dishwater.
It's or required to start anew without
considering the past successes. The old
provides a map to build on as time and
needs change, but the old doesn't need
to be cast aside entirely. Thank you. It
was a very good weekend for many, many
people and I'm glad it was successful.
>> Thank you. Just to let you know, I did
play chauffeur for most of the day. So,
I did I did shuttle a lot of people back
and forth. Okay, the second person
that's on our sign up sheet is John and
I'm sorry I can't read your last name.
Could you please let us
I'm sorry.
>> Tedrick.
t e d r i c k, Tedrick.
>> Thank you, Tedrick.
>> I
moved here about 18 years ago and build
a uh
run-down home
off of Taylor Street and I love the
little small town that it has been.
And it's a great place to live and I
wouldn't live anywhere else. And
so,
the reason I'm here is in opposition of
the 2801
Redwood Street.
You guys are wanting to rezone that
property.
And so,
my opinion is
that we need more small homes for people
to live in city Milton, not apartments.
I I know we have apartments right here
at the end of
Taylor Street and that was a great piece
of property to build it and it looks
like a very nice
15-18 units that they're building. My
worry is that
Taylor's a small street. You got a lot
of speeders. You got a lot of this. You
got a lot of that. You already have the
Ukrainian school that's going to go in
there. That's going to be a jungle full
of people when that opens up and I I
don't
have anything against the owners that
own that property
because when you sell
to
make it a different zone and you're
going to make more money. I understand
that. I don't have anything against
that, but I think
that place would serve better
to put 16 to 24 houses in there that the
houses are need to be in the city of
Milton. Small houses that people can
afford if you can afford a house at all
anymore and there's lots of nice little
houses that were built right across the
street where that fence is and I think
they should do a a small impact
statement on that.
They don't have to do it. They could do
a partial impact statement to see if
zoning that would put in there. I can't
imagine them zoning that 4.04 acres and
putting a store in there. I just got I
just can't see that happening.
At the very least I could see maybe some
condos or something like that. I don't
necessarily have any grudge against
that, but I think
family homes are well needed in this
place and that would be a good place
where you could put either 10 and 12
bigger homes or you could put
uh uh
16 to 24 smaller sized mid homes. In my
opinion it is that we need smaller
houses for people to move in the city of
Milton, not a bunch of complexes that
they already have. They already have a
busy complex right next door and if they
were to build a condo system or
apartment system it would be I think in
my opinion just too close to each other. Too many people
coming in and out of there. My opinion
is to stay with the single family homes.
All right, that's all I got to say.
Thank you.
>> Thank you, Mr. Tedder. You're welcome.
All right, those were the only two
people that signed up on our list. Is
there anyone else in the audience that
would like to address the council this
evening?
Yes, please come forward.
» Jacqueline Whalen, Milton, Washington.
I wanted to uh
thank the folks who did the work for the
event over the weekend.
It was lovely to see so many people
engaging with one another without a
phone right there in their face. It was
sweet.
I do have another comment and I wish to
direct it to public works but the
administration as well.
>> [clears throat]
>> We have an electric department. We've
got really smart people with
electricity. This city really needs an electric system that
allows amplifiers at the stage but when
it hits a certain level of sound the
electricity cuts off.
When you can be in your house over 700
ft away from the event
and be able to sing along
that's
very loud, very unnecessary.
And I really wish we would take the
issue of noise pollution much more
seriously.
So, that's the request on that.
We've got the department. We need to do
it.
There was a lot of concerns about the
stage going in. Last year there wasn't
the noise problem. This year there
really was.
Secondly, regarding microphones
I really hope that the administration
and staff can do something more so that
we can have
a recording system and broadcasting
system
that doesn't seem to have so many
opportunities for things to fail.
Last meeting
portions of citizen comment were not
recorded.
Planning commission meeting, sadly
it's not the first time the recording
didn't happen.
I am 1,000% confident that the person
operating the system is doing the best
they can. I assume the problem is with
the system.
So, I ask the administration, please
>> [laughter]
>> could we could we get our tech people to
take a look at this and help people who
are
doing so many different things at the
front desk there,
help them to be more successful by
having a broadcast system
that really
makes it clear whether microphones are
operating, whether things are being
recorded. That would be a real plus.
Because I know staff is really trying to
do their best with what they've got and
uh
I do hope council will support
making things better. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Uh anyone else wish to
address the council this evening?
All right, seeing none, uh we will move
on to additions and deletions. Are there
any requested additions or deletions
from the agenda this evening?
All right, seeing none, we will move on
to the consent agenda. May I get a
motion to approve the consent agenda?
Council member Cedar.
>> Move to approve the consent agenda as
presented.
>> Second.
>> It's been uh moved by Council member
Cedar and seconded by Council member
Port to
uh approve the consent agenda. All in
favor?
>> Aye.
>> Any opposed?
Motion passes unanimously.
All right, moving on to presentations.
The first uh presentation we have this
evening is from Judge Allen.
Welcome.
>> Thank you.
See how this works.
Um I am Sandy Allen. Uh there's a lot of
new council members that I don't think
I've met. Um and I appreciate you having
me here. I'm the judge. I've been the
Milton judge for 20 years, and this is
Ellen Adaberry, and she is the uh Milton
and Puyallup court administrator.
So, um I'm here to you to talk to you
today about the Milton Drug Court. Uh we
received funding from the Administrative
Office of the Courts for uh their um
fiscal year, which is July 26th of or
July of 2026 through June of 2027.
So, we've received funding from them,
and I want to talk to you. Oops.
Little bit too far.
Okay, I want to talk to you about how we
got here. Um the uh
back in 2021,
our uh Washington State Supreme Court
found our drug laws unconstitutional.
And then for about a period of 2 years,
Washington State didn't have any drug
laws at all. Um when the legislature uh
reenacted the drug laws on July 1st of
2023,
uh they made the uh drug offenses, the
majority of them misdemeanors instead of
uh felonies. So, what used to be in
superior court is now in the district
and municipal court um courts of limited
jurisdiction. So, the maximum penalty is
180 days and a $1,000 fine. You lose
your right to possess firearms if you're
convicted.
And over the last 3 years since the new
laws have been in place, we have had
over 240
drug charges filed in the city of
Milton.
And the motor the majority of those uh
Tiper was involved.
So um
he's an active uh part of the Milton
Police Department. So
can I do this again?
Third time's a charm of not pushing too
much.
So uh we uh found the need to start a
drug court. I went to the administrative
office of the courts, provided the
statistics for Milton.
Um and our efforts to do kind of a
modified drug court without any funding.
So we had previously um done a resource
court every one time a month where we'd
bring in peer support um navigators and
people from treatment agencies to come
in and try to work with defendants to
get them evaluated and um
get the defendants the help that they
needed. It wasn't sufficient. Um so then
we tried it to bring in treatment
evaluators every court hearing to try to
work with defendants to get them
evaluated. And again found that um the
number of cases were just overwhelming.
So we um went to the state and asked
them to support Milton for a drug court.
Um we need to recognize that there is a
problem
with addiction that needs to be solved
and no matter what the punishment we do
unless we treat the underlying problem,
we're not going to get them out of the
system.
So the drug court model um
invokes judicial oversight
um on a actually more regular basis than
a normal court appearance along with
intensive treatment and then support
through our court case coordinator and
peer navigators to help work them
through the system to hopefully get them
back to being productive citizens and
not continuing to re-offend.
We are planning on having our drug court
the first and third Tuesdays of every
month. We're adding additional court day
on a Thursday one time a month to make
up for the time that we're going to be
needing to
have the drug court up and operational.
So we received
$204,000
from
administrative offices of the courts as
pass-through funding to operate the
court. Most of the funding is through
personnel
costs.
We also received a significant amount
for recovery support and that is helping
with housing, food assistance, hygiene
products,
bus passes, the things that people need
that are addicted to drugs to get them
to the resources where they can get
help. We also
received
almost $15,000 in treatment resources.
That's to a pay for the drug
evaluations,
pay for treatment that might not be
covered by insurance, to do the drug
testing that we need to do regularly
within the drug court,
um pay for toxicology screening, and
those types of items.
And feel free to jump in if you guys
have any questions.
Uh [clears throat] the biggest category
is personnel costs. Um
the
my my salary, the prosecutors, the
public defenders. There's additional
costs that the city of Puyallup will
incur by um Milton taking on this
um task of doing a drug court.
Um but probably the biggest um expenses
and the biggest needs are the uh case
coordinator case manager, which is going
to be a half-time contract position.
And the case manager
um works with the drug court
participants, um coordinates their
treatment, helps them with outside
resources, and coordinating all of that,
and also collects data and reports um
all of the data to the administrative
office of the court so they can track
everything that we are doing in the drug
court.
And then the other position that we've
been um contract that we can contract
and hire that we have funding for is a
peer specialist. And what a peer
specialist is is a recovering addict
that has been trained by DSHS to work
with um
people that are going through the drug
court process and be their advocate and
support them in their treatment and
their struggles and
um
reach out with the group and the court
team to be their advocate and support
them.
So, what we need from council
and mayor
is for you to um accept the pass-through
funding from the contract with AOC that
has been executed.
Um we need to create the necessary
funding buckets so we can properly track
the funds that are coming in and out.
Um we need to work with the city of
Puyallup to amend the contract with the
city of Puyallup to um add the drug
court in.
And we also need to approve um
my amended contract that allows for the
addition additional funds for operating
the drug court. And approve the
amendments to the contracts for the
public defenders and the prosecutors.
So, there's a lot of work to be done
um and a lot of things that I need help
with from the city in order to get this
to move forward.
So,
I'm happy to answer any questions and
I've got Allen here as backup if you
guys have questions that I don't have
answers to.
>> Yes, Councilmember Reed.
>> Thanks for being here, Judge. Uh for the
AOC funding, is there any time
that they placed on that? By which I
mean, you know, if we approve
pass-through funding this year and kind
of can have our contract amended so that
it's reflecting that when we renew it
every year, could AOC pull back the
funding and thereby create a situation
where we're funding the drug court
directly?
>> The funding for this year is guaranteed.
Yeah. So, and each year they do a
renewal and they've simplified the
renewal process. I know that all of the
courts that were prior
um that had been funded prior got funded
again for this year. And we would know
um
we would know if our funding was going
to be terminated.
But I would expect from past years that
it
they're supportive of it. Do you
» So every year they look to continue to
support the courts that are already live
and going. So um if the funding if the
state continues to get the funding for
therapeutic courts, then Milton will
continue to receive that funding. Um the
contracts that are being submitted um
with the amendments have to do with it
um
being sunsetted if for some reason
uh Milton did not receive the funding.
Um but the intent and the idea behind it
is to continue to support more and more
courts um to have a successful
therapeutic court model um because as a
state they notice that it is an
epidemic that needs to be treated. Um so
while there is a potential, um it's it's
less likely. Um I can tell you for uh
Puyallup I think this is our
fourth year of having um money supported
uh for therapeutic court. Um and so
their push is to get more people live.
So one of their main things is to get
Milton um going successful for their
Milton Drug Court program.
>> Yeah, that's great. Uh thank you for
that. Uh and I'll just just to grant
that I don't have any more questions,
but I just want to say I also understand
that AOC has that goal of implementing
um and I think this is a very important
funding priority statewide. Even if it
was Milton funding I would suggest we do
it because in my experience
which is limited, but drug court has
been very successful. Um but I I did
that when I was in law school, I helped
with that and that was
16 17 years ago and it was successful
then. It's only proved more successful.
I'm aware of various various studies on
the issue. It's very good. So I really
appreciate you doing this and getting it
working for Milton, because those 240
cases those aren't
other people. Those are Milton
residents, and we should be helping
them. So, thank you for bringing this
forward.
>> Thank you.
>> Yes, Councilmember Mounts.
» Thank you for being here.
>> Thank you.
>> I just wondered if you would speak um a
little bit to the budget allocation. It
looks like there's almost 26,000
going to housing, food, bus passes,
and hygiene, evaluations, treatment, and
testing, which
I just looking at the looking at the
goals of the program,
I would think that
the bulk of the funding would go toward
those things, but it's 26,000 out of
204,000. So, if you could just speak to
that a little bit, is that enough money
for those services?
» A lot of the um budget money that we use
is to supplement
um what the uh participants will have. A
lot of them we help them get their um
identification. We help them get medical
insurance. And so, it gets them the
evaluations that might not be in covered
by insurance, but the majority of the
services that they will get will be
covered by their medical insurance for
the alcohol and drug treatment. And so,
this is used to supplement that.
>> So, this is like the state um
medical
insurance. I I'm assuming that a lot of
the participants aren't working and
getting
insurance coverage from their employers,
right?
>> Yeah.
Um so, I will tell you that a lot of
this budget is based um modeled off of
Puyallup's as well. Again, we've been
successfully doing Puyallup for a
handful of years now. Um and then we had
a grant when we launched in PUALP. Um,
what we're finding is the majority of
folks once they get support with the
insurance that we don't end up covering
it under um, our funding um, because
they are eligible for the state's
insurance to get the evaluations and
treatments. Um, so far we have yet to
have to stand in to do that piece. Um,
the additional pieces that we have to
get do is more of the support function.
Um, that is getting them to treatment
facilities, getting them to court. Um,
that's where the bus passes come in. Um,
doing the random UAs to help keep them
accountable. Um, doing other sorts of
classes for them. So, it's more of the
other support um, where you see the cost
in there. Um, so the bulk of all these
programs is always personnel um, because
it's it takes close management um, of
this money and to make sure that
participants are held accountable and
can be successful through this program.
And so hence that's why the majority is
through that personnel. And yes, it
while it might seem low, we just do our
best um, to be um, good stewards of the
public funds and um, we try to just, you
know, be
utilize the funds available to support
the participants. And so that money will
probably grow um,
cuz and you more people will start to,
you know, we start filing more people
through this program. Ideally we will be
able to help more folks. So,
» Does that answer your question?
>> Yes, thank you.
» Yes, Council Member Hall.
>> So, how do you rate how the system's
going? Say you come back in a year, what
kind of statistics can you um, are you
going to show us um, what we've done?
>> [laughter]
>> Administrative Office of the Courts
requires us to keep statistics. Um, so
we will keep track of the number people
that enter, the number of people that
entered into treatment, the number of
people that reoffended or commit new
offenses, a number of people that
dropped out of treatment. Um those are
all statistics and the number of people
that graduated, hopefully a lot.
Um those are the statistics that we will
track, that we're required to track with
the administrative office of the courts.
Are there other things that we
Uh so those are we we're mandated when
we're using those funds to keep track
and so we will be able to come back and
present that data to you also to
hopefully show our successes.
>> Yeah, I look forward to that.
» Any additional questions? Comments?
>> Comment.
>> Yes.
Chief.
>> Um
first of all, let me say that I I um
support drug courts. I think they're a
great thing and I want to thank Judge
Allen and Ellen
for doing their
this work and going to AOC and
soliciting and and making us eligible
for this program.
And then one of the things that I want
to talk about because I also have
helped start a drug court in my previous
jurisdiction where I was the elected
sheriff and um
one of the things that we look at, of
course, is the
um
if you want to see how healthy your
population is, go and look at your jails
and try to figure out why incarceration
and recidivism is occurring.
And uh
one of the things is there's a some
facts out there and this is estimates uh
that six out of 10 people are dealing
with some kind of substance abuse issue.
And 41% of those people will have a a
coexisting condition, meaning mental
health and substance abuse.
And one of the things is is this program
focuses on treatment rather than
incarceration because I can tell you
that incarceration is one of the most
expensive
ways to deal with uh individuals that
are struggling
um in society for a variety of reasons,
whether it's substance abuse, mental
health, socioeconomic, or just plain old
uh deviant behavior and lack of
accountability. And so,
my experience with the drug courts has
been very positive, and
I can tell you that again, estimation
that you look at, the recidivism for
drug court is 11%
to 46% versus 34 to 79% when you look at
people that are not getting any kind of
treatment. So,
our uh jail population just here at the
misdemeanor level is about a quarter of
a million, and we're probably maybe hit
250,000
um because uh we're having a a lot more
people that are in need, and we have not
had the tools to be able to focus on um
providing resources to these individuals
that are suffering with mental illness
and substance abuse. And the coexisting
condition, meaning what it means is is
that either maybe they were mentally ill
and they started doing drugs to deal
with their mental illness, or maybe they
started
doing drugs, and it was voluntary, but
then it moved into the realm of creating
a mental a permanent mental illness. And
so, by having drug court, we can
identify these individuals that are uh
good candidates that we can provide some
rehabilitation services and focus on
treatment rather than incarceration. And
then, if you were to take the numbers,
and you were to to loosely subtract the
46% recidivism rate from the 79
uh percent uh recidivism rate um at the
both highest levels of recidivism
between the two um in our current
budget, uh that's potentially about
$70,000 that we would save on rather
than incarceration and providing
treatment, and hopefully reduce these
individuals from being habitual
offenders. So, I just wanted to remark
that I'm a big proponent. I've seen it
work. It's been a very successful,
and I'm very proud to be a part of a
city that is
uh
considering this and I'm very uh proud
to be a partner with the courts and with
the judge to be able to
hopefully facilitate this program. So,
it makes sense and my recommendation to
council is that you should support this.
>> Thank you, Chief.
Anyone else?
Judge Allen, thank you very much for for
coming this evening.
>> Thank you. I appreciate it.
>> and staff will be working with you, I'm
sure, uh going forward.
>> Okay.
On the next steps and the so on.
>> yeah.
>> Okay.
Um
Perfect.
>> [laughter]
>> Thank you for your time.
>> Thank you. I appreciate it.
>> We've got the paperwork, we're preparing
it, and bringing it forward to council
as an agenda item. And we'll let you
guys know when that happens if you
decide you want to be here for
>> quick question. Who should be the
contact person where No,
um
>> [laughter]
» Everybody's pointing fingers.
>> [laughter]
>> Um to work with the city of Puyallup on
amending the contract. I don't know who
that would be the
um
the key person that would get with them.
Is it our city attorney? Are they
>> It's usually the mayor, city attorney,
and myself that we go over review the
contract. Um but uh Michelle is on the
finance end of it, so.
>> Right. So, okay, well, we'll talk off
record about next steps of who's going
to be working with Puyallup and getting
that
>> Yeah.
>> done.
All right.
>> Perfect.
>> Thank you so much for having me. I
appreciate it.
>> Thank you very much.
» Thank you.
>> All right, the uh next item on our
agenda is another presentation um
on the state of the Pierce County
Library.
I'm sorry, I don't have any names. So,
if you could please introduce
yourselves.
>> Happy to do so. Good evening, Mayor,
council members. My name is Gretchen
Caserotti. I'm the executive director of
Pierce County Libraries.
Um and with me this evening is Chad
Harper, who's the library operations
supervisor at our Milton Edgewood
branch. And Steve, our regional services
manager, is helping to pass out copies
of the presentation, which I understand
you all have print copies of this
evening.
Thank you so much for giving us some of
your um time on the agenda this evening.
Uh it's with great pleasure that we get
to come out into the various
incorporated cities that are annexed
into the Pierce County Library system.
Go ahead, next slide.
Um and just share a little bit about
what's happening in the library. Uh I
started in this role in 2022 and um have
had the chance to work across Pierce
County, the 2,000 square miles from the
mountain to the sound of our service
area. If you're not familiar, Pierce
County Library system is a junior taxing
district. Um similar to the way school
districts are structured, we have a
governing body, a board of five
trustees, and um we we serve the annexed
cities within and the unincorporated
areas of Pierce County. Not Puyallup uh
and not Tacoma, um but the other cities
within. So, pleased to be able to come
out and share what's happening, meet the
elected representatives, and answer
questions that anyone might have about
the the happenings in the Pierce County
Libraries.
Um go ahead, next slide.
So, when it comes to finances, um we've
been working hard in recent years to
ensure that the library is increasing
our transparency around um the taxpayer
funds that fund the organization. We are
about 97, 98% funded completely by
property taxes. Um by state law, there
are very few revenue opportunities for
library districts in the way that
municipalities enjoy.
Okay, you do have copies.
Um
and uh so, we are very heavily reliant
on that. And as you are all aware with
the 1% property tax cap in the state of
Washington. Um, our revenues are limited
while expenses continue to grow. And
similar to your um,
drug court, um, the majority of our
costs go to personnel. About 66% of our
annual budget each year is to the people
who make the magic happen. We would
otherwise just have buildings with books
uh, around the Pierce County. And um, we
all know that you can uh, you can have
access to things, but then when you have
meaning, context, and support is where
um, people really have more value uh, to
what the library can bring to a
community. Um,
we uh, also have um, invested in more
transparency around the platform. So,
not just coming out to share with our
um, our representatives in this in the
county, but we have launched using
ClearGov. And so now anyone can view the
library's um,
funding in the budget uh, budget brief
documents that are available on the
website. And also through the um, SAO
for the state of Washington has a
financial intelligence tool. So, you can
also see where the money went. Um, and
um, really excited to continue to move
in that direction. Currently we're at 33
cents per thousand of assessed value.
And since I've been here that number
hasn't changed. We've been really
working to control expenses in the
ever-increasing environment um, and
knowing that we have no new revenue to
accommodate that. Um, so we've currently
held at 33 cents uh, for the recent few
years.
Uh, let's see. Next slide, please. The
small bit that is self-generated um,
we're really grateful to have such great
supporters in in um, formal structures.
So, we have a Pierce County Library
Foundation. And every October we do a
fundraiser which is actually fun. It is
a trivia bee um, where we all get
together and you get to nerd out um, for
a good cause. Our foundation provides
the support for book giveaways to
children in the summer as well as a
variety of other supports at the local
level in the individual branches as well
as for the system. And then we also have
uh Friends of the Library groups um and
Chad will tell you a little bit about
ways that community members can get
involved at our local branch here with
the Friends group.
» Hello. Um we have a really amazing, very
active uh Friends of the Library
organization that we share with the Fife
branch. We're the Fife Milton Edgewood
um Friends of the Library. We do um
periodically we have a book sale. People
uh people from the community come in and
donate uh books that people can come
into the branch and it's a little bit on
the honor system. We have a little box
for people to put in cash or a QR code
if they want to Venmo the Friends of the
Library to um
to buy used books. And then we uh the
librarians pull the money together and
work with our uh our volunteers with the
Friends of the Library to support um
various programs. People if we want to
have a speaker or a presenter uh come in
to one of our programs um and if they
have a speaking fee of some kind the we
are able to pay them from the Friends of
the Library funds.
Next slide.
Um sorry.
Um just a little bit more about the
Milton Edgewood branch. We were built in
2011. I think we're one of the newer
branches in the system. Um last year we
had a little bit more than 60,000 people
come through our doors and check out um
almost 83,000 books and materials.
That's books, music CDs, physical
audiobooks, DVDs, um as well as
magazines as well. We have 11,677
card holders and last year we had 48
classes and events and almost 500 people
in our community attended those events,
as well. And then
» And and excited to see the system
growing that number overall. So, many
libraries in America um in the
post-pandemic environment are still
working to return to pre um pre-COVID
use. And in the time that I've been
here, we've worked really hard with the
new strategic plan in particular to
build an internal system around
programs. Um a lot of folks will come to
library programs, even if they don't
have a library card. You might have a
grandparent who's helping to watch the
kids on the weekend come to a storytime,
or um a senior that works at a uh lives
at a facility, and they bring a group in
for a program. Um and so, we look at a
variety of metrics, and programs is an
incredible strategy for people to come
and discover new things at the library
and connect with their community. So, we
are going to be very excited to come
back next year and let you know that
those numbers are increasing uh in 2026.
And as a system, that new strategic plan
um was a refresh with our mission,
vision, and values. The Board of
Trustees approved that in 2025, and
we're continuing to work forward and
implement that in our operations and
annual plans. Um I want to especially
call out the um organizational value of
transformative hospitality. And just um
Council member Cedar, what I was hearing
from you, for example, is we really want
everyone who walks through our door, no
matter where they come to from where
they're at in their life, to feel
welcome, to feel valued, to have a
really personalized experience um where
the staff are really meeting that
person's needs, and that looks different
for everybody. Every person who walks in
the door is has got a whole life outside
of this one interaction. Um and so,
we're really leaning into that as an
organizational value and how we want
that to inform the services that the
staff deliver every day.
Next slide, those major goals include
strategic partnerships, which is another
reason why we're here.
Um really looking to um break down
siloed walls and and silos
uh across the county where um you know,
we're also working with peer navigators
in some of our library branches. Um and
in fact uh looking to be bringing in
social work and to our practices and um
partnering with law enforcement across
the county. So, we really want to be
purposeful and intentional in the way
that we approach our partnerships um
from everything from nonprofits to local
governments, um as well as looking at
important things to people across the
county around environmental goals,
practical financial goals um to make
sure that our library operations are
going to be able to be sustained into
the future. So, that's just a snapshot
of our of our new strategic goal areas
and couple of things coming up we want
to tell you about and we'll get out of
your hair.
>> We try to have our librarians work
really hard to
Sorry. Try to have programs that meet um
all age groups and all interests. Um we
have an adult Medicare awareness class
that is coming up. I would expect that
to be very very popular. A few weeks ago
we had a sort of an intro to estate
planning. Uh we had an outside group
come in and we were able to provide the
space for that. Um
but by the time the library branch
opened we had a line that snaked kind of
around the shopping mall where we are
located. I think we had 50 people
waiting to come in and then about
another 20 came in shortly after the
program started.
Um so, I would expect this to attract a
similar number of people. We do have a
very active and robust book club that
meets once a month and I don't remember
what this month's book club book is. I
should have looked it up before I came
here.
Personal librarian. Thank you. Yeah.
Thank you.
That entirely unplanned, I promise.
Um
>> [clears throat]
>> Yeah.
We have a couple STEAM programs. Um one
geared for um
younger kids or kids of all ages um for
a kids discovery lab program on
Wednesday the 26th, and then one that's
geared towards the teens in your life.
Uh it's called a fantasy job board. And
then we uh we have
weekly story times every Monday from
10:30 to 11:15, story time for babies.
Um come in with your little ones and
hear a really fun story. And then we
also have a master gardeners uh program
for teens as well that's focused on
sustainability.
No close?
>> This impact story.
>> Oh, sure. Uh I'm going to share an
impact story that I thought of on the
way here because it happened just this
past Saturday, and I think it's kind of
cool. Um we had on Friday we had someone
come in who I'd never seen in the
library before. They came in with a very
um
uh
very haphazardly collected group of
papers in a torn envelope and said,
"Someone dropped these outside of the
library, and I have no idea whose they
are, but they seem important because
they have things like birth certificates
and a driver's license and other things
in it."
And so I thanked them for that, and then
another staff member and I went through
it to see if we recognized a name.
Fortunately, because we didn't recognize
the name, uh we found the driver's
license in the pile.
Um we recognized the photo of the
patron, and I said, "I know who this
person is because he comes in almost
every single evening." And so the next
evening, Saturday evening before I had
left, he was in uh sitting at one of the
tables in the branch just like he always
is. And I went over to him and I said,
"Did you happen to lose something very
important outside the library?" And he
says, "Well, what do you mean?" And I
said, "Well, someone came in and said
they had found this sitting laying on
the sidewalk from outside the branch."
And he says, "I'm not sure." And I said,
"Well, let me go show it to you." So, I
brought it out of our safe and I said,
"Does this look familiar?" And he said,
"Oh my god, this is filled with super
important documents that I needed to
send down to California to get my
passport, blah blah blah blah blah." And
so, we were able to reunite him with
driver's license, bank cards, uh a lot
of checks to be deposited, his birth
certificate, and a lot of very important
uh applications. And so, I like to
think, yes, we're building with books
and DVDs, but at the end of the day, I
always think libraries are there to help
people first and foremost. And so, um
that was one of my more favorite
stories.
>> people turning it in.
>> Thank you, Jen.
>> Thank you all so much. We'd be happy to
stand for any questions that you all
might have. Um appreciate your time.
>> Yes, Councilmember Roberts.
>> Thank you, Mayor. I just had a question
about the uh fantasy job board. What is
that? It shows a teens uh teams STEAM
program. I'm just curious what that is.
>> Go ahead.
>> I'm honestly not too sure.
>> [laughter]
>> I I know that the teen programs do a lot
with envisioning futures and youth
development. So, while I don't know the
details of this particular program,
similar to like a fantasy football
league, um they do a lot of really
active programming with youth that make
them like I don't What's the term?
Gamify?
>> Okay.
>> Um and so, like our youth volunteer
programs are also looking at what, you
know, what are you good at and what do
you want to do with your life? So, my
assumption is that it's in that vein of
making it fun to envision a future.
>> Okay. Um do you know the age range? I
mean, it says teens, so I'm assuming 13
on.
>> Yeah.
>> I'm just curious for my own personal
sign, that's all.
>> [laughter]
>> To get them off the screen, that's all.
>> Yeah. Because it's a STEAM activity and
it's a fantasy job board, I'm going to
make an educated guess pulling from my
school librarian days and say maybe it's
an activity where
STEAM science, technology are
coming up with ideas for
fantasy science-y jobs that might exist
in the future that they might want to
invent or apply for someday. I don't
know.
>> [laughter]
>> Sure, why not?
>> But generally teen programs are yeah, 13
to 18. And no one gets carded for that.
So if they're like 12 and a half,
they're probably going to be fine.
Parents get to choose or 19.
>> Thank you.
Any additional questions or comments?
Thank you very much for coming this
evening.
>> a great evening.
>> Thank you.
All right. The next item on our agenda
this evening is a public hearing
uh for the comp plan amendment and
zoning map. It's on page 15 of your
packet and planning manager Stollsteimer
will be presenting this item.
>> Thank you. Um
>> [clears throat]
>> this was introduced at the last meeting.
Um to this is for the public hearing
portion that is required.
Um there will be It is on the agenda if
there's any discussion, it won't be on
for adoption until the first meeting on
October. Just a quick recap. Um so the
comprehensive plan, this is a joint
hearing because there's a
um
comprehensive plan future land use map
change and the corresponding zoning.
They are tied together, so the comments
can be received together. There's two
parts to the comp plan. The first is the
map proposal and it is tied to the
private um request for 2801 Redwood
Street to change from urban residential
multi-family to uptown mixed use on both
the future land use map and the zoning
map. Just a refresher, it's currently
zoned for
multi-family which is apartments. But
it's more at the density of 12.
Where if it goes to the mixed use, it
would be more of a density. It could go
up to potentially 30.
It also would have the potential of
commercial uses if um
the applicant if the current applicant
is looking at housing but by changing it would change.
It would give those options at some
point. Just a quick
point out
for the council, their application forms
is on page 73 and 74
where they basically they're kind of
making their argument. The idea that it
does allow for
a variety of
um
housing. There is a charge in the state
as well as the comprehensive conference
of plan to look to make sure that we
have a mixed variety of both types of
housing and pricing range of housing.
And so um
you know, there are parts of the
majority of our city is single family
homes. There's also some parts that are
intended to be the more mixed use, the
more apartments, a little bit higher
density.
Um and so there they have kind of worked
through their how they feel like they
meet the criteria for that. Um the
second kind of half of the conference of
plan amendments is the six-year capital
improvement plans. I did go through and
we should have um as at last time
it sort of should have the most current
numbers. I was thinking there was a
question related to that. I was thinking
Dustin will be back by today but Dustin
is not back till Wednesday. So if there
is any specific questions about the
capital improvement plan, we can get
those answered before October.
Um
so there is that. So at that point I
will stop and we're able to open up the
public hearing. And then, like I said,
after the public hearing, the first
agenda item is discussion if the council
has anything they wish to discuss or ask
questions on.
» Okay. Um it is 7:51
p.m. and I uh open the public hearing.
Is there anyone
uh in the audience that would like to
speak on this item? Yes, please come
forward.
Please give your uh your name and city
for the record.
>> [snorts]
» Good evening. My name's Taylor Wyman.
I am
real estate advisor for Roy Skinner and
his family. I'm here on behalf of the
land use comp plan change.
So, any of you guys are familiar with
what we've requested. Obviously, the
Skinner family's owned this property for
since 1986.
And I know I've been in real estate for
a little over 10 years now. Obviously,
housing development can always be a
little
contentious, kind of depending on where
it is.
New development, not everybody loves.
Um so, I understand
Ted's position.
Um obviously, if you have lived
somewhere for a while,
own a single family home, maybe you
don't want new development next door.
I think, obviously, looking at this
from kind of the city's perspective and
the comp plan, reviewing that,
you know, over the next 20 years,
looking forward,
I don't see the city's
determined
that this area along Meridian Avenue
is designed to be the mixed-use kind of
center of the city.
All right, you want the retail, you want
it to be walkable, you want apartments,
you want people to have a place to live,
go out to eat, um you know,
entertainment of that sort. So, I see if
you, know, if you're looking at the map,
you can see down, all right, if you look
down 28th Avenue
all the way down to Taylor Street,
right, it's a pretty straight line.
And then, this property in question,
I'll see it would if that line continued
would go right through it. But, I'll see
with the map zoning and how you design
it,
you're not going to have two zones for
one parcel. So, it went around it, you
know, if it had gone through or if it
was multiple parcels, you know, you
probably would have maybe 2/3 of that
parcel would be the Uptown mixed-use
zoning versus the urban residential.
Um so, and obviously like one of the
main concerns would be impact to
neighboring properties. I'll see to the
east, you have already you know, Uptown
mixed-use to the south, it's Uptown
mixed-use. To the north, you have both
Uptown mixed-use and then one
kind of similar older single-family home
that's URM. Uh and then you have the
dock at Surprise Lake,
which is obviously a large 330-unit
apartment apartment complex to the west.
So,
you kind of you know, it's designed, you
have the huge apartment complex. I think
it would make sense
um
to increase the density from right now
it's 36.
You go to 90 units, I'll see it brings
in, you know, more homes, more families,
more people that are going down Meridian
Corridor, spending money, going out to
eat, kind of improving that. Um
and also it's one of one of the few
developable developable parcels along
that corridor that's not already retail
or um some buildings already on it.
Thank you. So, I appreciate it.
>> Thank you very much.
>> Uh yeah. Happy to answer any questions.
Um
I don't know if I can do that.
>> Not in a public hearing.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
>> Well, I appreciate your time and your
consideration.
>> Thank you.
>> Anyone else uh
wish to testify in the hearing.
Yes, please come forward. State your
name and and uh
city for the record, please.
>> Jacqueline Whalen, Milton, Washington,
speaking as an individual citizen.
And just request uh
and discussion from staff
on a question that I didn't really hear
answered, which was
really clarifying the distinction
between someone putting in an
application
versus a zoning designation. What is the
guarantee that the application is what
actually will take place?
And uh if staff could please comment on
could a zoning change be done with
conditions? I'm just like a master plan
kind of thing. So, those were questions
that citizens were asking me and I just
wanted to pass them along. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
Any Anyone else like to testify this
evening?
Seeing none,
I close the public hearing at 7:55.
All right, moving on to our regular
agenda.
Um the first item on our
regular agenda is on page 47 of your
packet. It's the comp plan amendment
ordinance 2146-26.
And
» Um again, I
>> And the planning manager stopped there.
>> So, um Like I said, both um A and B are
on here. If there's any um further
questions or discussions, this is
legislative. So, it means that um
it is the planning commission um made a
rec- makes a recommendation. Council
gets to make the final decision. Um
there is
some recommended criteria to kind of
look at, but in general, the the plan is
the council's discretion. So, you get to
make that decision on if you feel like
this fits within the overall
comprehensive plan and then follow up.
Um and to the a couple of the one
question that you know, I said I kind of
addressed the other the
first comment that was earlier tonight
just the idea that um
it is zoned right now for apartments. It
would be a higher density apartments.
Um
under the what they're proposing. Um I
will clarify that again.
There is no you can't link it to that
per se. If you make the comprehensive
plan amendment change and you make the
zoning change, it does allow whatever is
in that use table under that zone. So,
you can't condition it or anything. Um
so,
there is that. Um at that point, I will
see if there's just any other further
dis- questions for me or discussion
amongst the council. Um like I said,
it's not on for action. It'll come back
in October for that. It's still under
state review.
» Yes, Council member
McNally Martinez.
>> I just have a quick question. Do you
know why that property wasn't zoned that
way originally being that it's right on
the edge? Is there a formula that's
used?
>> No, it was um
so, that kind of line right down there
um
most some of this was actually light
industrial.
And so, um
the feeling was that didn't make sense
to light industrial on the corner. This
was already multi-family. So, we just
left it as multi-family. It didn't it we
just left that one. That wasn't one we
were looking at changing. Um
but we did change all of this to away
from light industrial. Again, did not
make sense to um match what was above
which was sort of going to be that um,
mixed use.
>> There was no specific reason for that.
>> no specific, it's just that's what it
was and there was no um,
you know, what we were looking at
change, you know, there was definitely
some some areas that just didn't that
felt like needed to be changed. Um, but
some areas if there wasn't a clear
reason to, we didn't.
» Any Any additional questions? Yes,
Councilmember Mounts.
» Thank you. And thank you for the
really helpful chart on page 79.
My understanding, and I think you just
told me this, um, told us this,
is it could be used for multi-family
dwelling units, child care centers,
religious institutions,
adult family homes, restaurants,
mercantile, personal professional
services,
and offices, those types of things.
Would that,
um,
of course, logically require
new roads to go in, coming coming out on
Taylor, probably, so there'd be
um, an exit onto Meridian and an exit
onto Taylor. It's probably really
premature for these
kinds of questions, but I drove over
there today and and I took a look at
that area.
Um,
>> Yeah, so whatever, um,
at this point, what you would be doing
is simply saying, could those uses
change? And yes, when we go to our use
table,
um,
right now it's under URM,
which for the most part is primarily
just residential uses. It'll be moved to
UMX, which is both residential and there
are some commercial, quite a few
commercials, because it is mixed use.
Um, anything that they would still have
to go through the four the full land use
application process. So, depending on
what it is,
um
in most most likely whatever they do,
it's going to be a major um site plan.
So, application's going to come in.
Um it will be reviewed by, you know, and
they will be required to have a traffic
impact study. They will be required to
show us all of where they're going to
put roads, how they're going to deal
with storm, how they're going to deal
with parking, all of that. It gets
reviewed by our engineers. Um notices go
out um 500 ft to all of property owners.
If there's enough interest, we would
hold a neighborhood meeting. That's sort
of an option depending on how many
people are interested in that um if they
want more information. And then like I
said, it it uh um everything goes
through the planning department, the
community development department, but it
um we're looking for fire to say yes,
this looks good. The engineers to say
yes, this looks good. Our traffic
engineers saying yes, this looks good.
Utilities. And then um and usually what
they get is an approved site plan if it
meets all the criteria. They may have
some conditions. And then they then they
go through civil, which is the fine-tune
actual approving of exactly where those
lines are going to go, and then building
construction. So.
>> So, thank you for that. And if I can
piggyback on that, um given what Council
member Cedar said last week,
we're looking to strike a balance
between affordable housing and urban
development and commercial and canopy
preservation. There's a lot of trees on
that lot. It looks like that whole
corner is wetlands. Um
how would you how how would we or how
would I
strike that balance because it's a a
large parcel given that that the
Skinners own those three parcels
together. And if it's zoned for future
development, we're losing a big chunk of
residential
potentially. I mean, if we if we approve
the zoning change, there's nothing to
stop them from doing more commercial
than there is
residential, right?
>> So, yeah, so um
the
just to kind of
again
until things are approved and final
there's always things. But, the current
proposals this right this property right
here um
is currently under contract with it is
commercial and it's under contract with
a commercial business and at that point
I think that's going through. So, what
this current um
proposal is tied to would be this lot
and this lot and this one is already um
uptown mixed-use.
Um so, yes, it
you know, the current plan would be the current proposal
is that it would be multi-family at a
higher density than you can do um under
multi-family. So,
if but yes, once it's changed, if that
deal fell through, somebody else could
potentially look at it for something
else.
» Thank you.
>> Councilmember Massie, do you have
>> Thanks.
Uh so, I think that the tool
well, as I stated last week or whenever
we talked about this, I'm I'm opposed to
this.
Um I I think the tool to guarantee that
this is used for residence is is called
a development contract under RCW 36.70B
170
sequentially after that. Um
that would guarantee that any rezone is
under a contract that goes with the
property and can't be used for
commercial uses.
But, even if we were to do that and
guarantee that this is used for
high-density residential in this area,
you know, into the future, it still
doesn't solve the problems that come
with a rezone. And those problems, you
know, we just heard some from
Councilmember Mounts, but
the other people around there, the
setback gets reduced to virtually
nothing, the building height increases
exponentially. Um the the trees are
going going to be gone. I mean, it just
it's so counter to what we are trying to
do.
And I I don't see any compelling reason
to do it. I appreciate, you know,
um Mr. Skinner having a representative
here. And I appreciate that he bought
those three lots at I'm I'm sure a quite
a deal back in the '80s. Um and that
they're worth a lot right now, but
that's not what our zoning code is meant
to do. And as soon as we rezone, we lose
control, even if we try to put something
some attachment to the property.
And frankly, with even with the best
intentions right now,
15, 20, 25 years, if that turns in it
becomes more profitable to make that a
self-storage unit, then that's what
it'll be. And I think that we have a
duty, because I've never talked to a
constituent who says they want more high
density on the corridor reading quarter.
That's what Edgewood has done, and I've
heard nothing in the time I've been on
council, but we don't want that. We want
gentle density if we have to have it.
And increasing the density there is not
gentle density. So, I'm adamantly
opposed to this. I've not heard any
compelling reason to support it. Thanks.
>> Any additional questions or discussion?
All right, so this is going to be going
to the planning commission?
>> No, it'll come back to the council in
October.
>> Okay.
>> For um action, which could, again, uh
council has the authority to
um approve, with, you know, changes or
amendments, or deny.
>> Okay. Will there be any more public
hearings?
>> There's not public hearings. Um the city
I mean, council usually does take
comment on an action item.
So, and it is legislative, so it's it's
like if you go through a hearing
examiner, there it's quasi-judicial, you
have to be very
careful how you do things cuz it's sort
of like a judge. With legislation, you
are allowed to talk to constituents,
even talk to the applicant
as long as you're not doing a quorum or
something, so
it does have a little bit more
flexibility.
But yeah, it'll come back to council.
And like I said, we always usually we
take comment before action. So, if
there's
>> All right.
Thank you. So, we will move on to
regular agenda item B, the zoning map
ordinance
on page 77, and this is a discussion
item.
>> Is there anything additional or was it
covered under comprehensive plan?
We're all good.
>> Are we good? Okay.
Then let's move on to
item C, which is an action item on page
85,
budget amendment ordinance, and
Finance Director Robeck will be
presenting this item for us.
>> Thank you, Mayor and Council. The
proposed ordinance provides adjustments
to the 2026 budget as adopted by City
Council in December of 2025.
This is the second ordinance amending
the 2026 budget and reflects changes
that have occurred since adoption of the
original budget. These adjustments are
detailed in the accompanying exhibits A
and B.
Exhibit A is a modification to the wage
scale for one position title only. If
approved, this amendment would change
the position title of planning manager
to community development director. This
new title better aligns with the
position's current duties and
responsibilities,
and more information regarding this
position is included in the next agenda
item 8D.
This ordinance was presented at the
study session on August 10th for first
reading.
And I'd be happy to answer any questions
once And a motion is made.
>> All right, would somebody like to make a
motion? Yes, Council Member Roberts.
>> Thank you, Mayor. Uh move to adopt the
ordinance 2144-26
amending the 2026 budget as detailed in
exhibits A and B.
>> Second.
» Oh, okay.
I'll give it to Council Member Hall.
Is that right? Okay.
Um Council Member Roberts, would you
like to speak to your motion?
>> Um I would not. Thank you.
>> Okay.
Council Member Hall, would you like to
speak to your second?
>> I appreciate this coming to Council.
Um
we're always looking to
keep up with
um what our workers are doing and the
jobs they're doing um and make sure that
um they align
with with the city needs.
Um I've personally worked with
Angie Angeli uh for number of years and
she's a hard worker and deserves
» All right. Any uh additional discussion?
Uh Council Member Cedar.
>> Thanks. Um I I noticed that we dropped
the economic portion of that. What was
the decision for that?
>> There actually wasn't a decision. The
information that was provided to me when
I created the budget amendment had the
economic development in there and I was
later corrected that um or that
information was later corrected and so
we we
um
I it was just it was a correction and not a
conscious decision.
>> Uh understood. Thank you. I I think it's
a good title. I think it matches what um
Planning Manager Stahlnacker and
hopefully Director Stahlnacker does
works very hard for the community.
Um I have a question about on page 93,
which is regarding fund 503, information
technology fund.
Um I notice here, and maybe I don't know where this originated, the
adjust budget for new website hosting
and AI agent services.
$44,000. Can you tell me about that that
line item?
>> Um possibly the mayor can help me a
little bit with this as well. Um we're
transitioning
to a new website host, and this is kind
of the the front end for setting up that
new website host. So, our old website
hosting
costs will go away and these will
replace it. It's just that there's a bit
of a crossover period
in 2026, where where we have both the
implementation of the new system and
paying the remainder um
of the old system. I don't know if
there's anything
>> uh
there's been a lot of complaints about
our website and about how hard it is to find things. And so, we have we have
looked um
out to other cities and what other uh
vendors are out there. And we have found
one. This is
uh it's about What was it we just paid?
It's about $28,000,
I believe. Um
that we're that we're it's an upfront
fee in order to pay uh for them to
design and
implement. And it should take between 6
and 8 months.
So, it's it's a it's a one-time charge
to to essentially rebuild our website. And
part of that website is going to have an
AI agent that will um, that will crawl
the site and and you'll be able to ask,
um,
>> Um,
I feel like
>> English prompts and and it will be able
to go through all of the ordinances and
everything that's available on the
website and give a, uh,
an English answer
to, um,
to the query. So, if somebody says, "Do
I need a,
uh,
do I need a permit to build a fence?"
It will not just give you a link to that
area of the code, it will actually tell
you, um, what you need to do in the
process you would need to do in order
to, um, to do that. And it will also,
uh, take away, um,
it will, should, I'm hoping that it will
take away,
uh,
the, the need for people to call into
the city and, and use staff time,
uh,
to be able to walk people through this
because, again, the biggest complaint
that that I have heard from people is
that they can't find anything on on our
website and so they're calling in and
asking staff uh, to tell them what to
click on in order to get what they're
looking for. So,
um, I'm just trying to, uh, make the
website, uh,
much more user-friendly
and, uh,
and ultimately free up some, uh, some
staff time. So.
>> Okay. So, this wasn't something that was
budgeted for in our original budget,
correct?
>> That's correct. Yes, yes.
>> So, it, obviously, it's it's below our
threshold for approval, but
Right.
>> Um, yes, because the it it is it's two
pieces. There's the website hosting
piece and then the AI agent piece. And
so, each of those,
um, the those are distinct individual
pieces, um,
and
contracts or invoices that were under,
um,
the separate council approval level of
40,000.
>> Yeah. I'll just note that, you know, I
found that line and I went back and
reviewed to try to figure out where that
came from and I was a little troubled
that it wasn't actually kind of briefed
in here cuz 44,000 like it's not
nothing. That's a big budget adjustment.
So, you know, just moving forward, I
would appreciate like having that right
up front. Um
it felt a little hidden here since it
doesn't appear in the ordinance that
we're passing
and it doesn't appear in the previous
ordinances for the budget. So.
Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Sure. Noted.
Um
and it's it's not going to be that much
in this budget year. The other half is
going to be
in next year. So, we probably didn't
really even need to make it this big,
but
we weren't sure at the time
um
until we got the contract and found out
that they
were were paying for it in thirds. So.
>> Yeah, sorry. And and I would note I
think it's a good I mean
modernizing our website's a good idea.
Ho- hopefully get like a little clippy.
>> [laughter]
>> Let's hope not.
All right. Um any further discussion?
Okay, it's been uh moved by
Councilmember Robertson and seconded by
Councilmember Hall
uh to adopt ordinance
Oh, I'm sorry. This is an action item.
Is there anyone from the audience that
would like to uh
comment to Council before this is voted
on?
All right. Again,
uh it's been moved by Councilmember
Robertson seconded by Councilmember Hall
to adopt ordinance 2144-26
amending the 2026 budget as detailed in
exhibits A and B. All in favor?
>> Aye.
>> Any opposed?
Motion passes unanimously.
Okay, moving on to
item D, title change to the community
development director on page 95 of your
packet. This is an action item.
And looks like I am presenting this
item.
Um
tonight I am asking for your
confirmation of [clears throat] Angeli
Stonelake
as the city of Milton's Community
Development Director. Angeli has served
as our planning manager for the past 5
years. And I'm requesting that we make
this title change to formally recognize
the level of responsibility she has been
carrying and the leadership she has
demonstrated.
Uh this is not simply a change in title.
This is a recognition of the expertise,
experience, and leadership Angeli has
brought to the city of Milton and the
expanded role she will continue to
provide with within our organization.
Angeli brings a strong educational and
professional background to this
position. She holds a Bachelor of
Science in Geography and Regional
Planning with a minor in Political
Science. She is also currently pursuing
a Master's degree in Management and
Leadership through Western Governors
University.
Angeli uh recently graduated from the
Northwest Women's Leadership Academy, a
leadership development program
associated with the City and uh County
Management Association. Uh this
leadership training has further
strengthened her ability to work
collaboratively, manage complex issues,
communicate effectively, and provide
strong leadership in municipal
environment.
Uh most importantly, Angeli brings more
than 20 years of professional experience
in urban and city planning, long-range
planning, and environmental design.
Her experience gives her a broad
understanding of how planning decisions
affect not only the individual projects,
but also the long-term growth,
development, infrastructure, and quality
of life of the entire community.
Her expertise includes comprehensive
planning, land use issues, development
regulations, long-range planning,
environmental considerations, and the
many competing interests that come with
a responsible community development.
These are areas that require both
technical knowledge and the ability to
work effectively with residents,
property owners,
uh developers, elected officials, and
other agencies.
The community development director
position is an important leadership role
within our organization.
This position is responsible for
overseeing the city's planning and
community development functions,
supporting uh responsible growth and
development, working with residents and
businesses, coordinating development
activities, and helping ensure the
city's planning and development
processes are uh conducted
professionally, efficiently, and in
accordance with applicable laws and
regulations.
In my uh it is my honor this evening to
request the affirmation of council to
support my decision to appoint Angely
Stalnecker as community development
director and approve the corresponding
title change.
During her five years as Milton planning
manager, Stalnecker uh uh
planning uh manager Stalnecker has
demonstrated professionalism, knowledge,
and dedication to our community. She has
developed a strong understanding of
Milton's unique planning needs,
our community priorities, and the
challenges associated uh with uh
managing growth while maintaining the
character and quality of life that our
residents value.
She has also demonstrated the ability to
take complex planning and development
issues and work through them in a
thoughtful and professional manner. Her
experience allows her to look beyond the
individual application or project and
consider the broader impact on the
community and the city's long-term
goals.
Her contributions have not gone un- gone
unnoticed.
In uh 2024, Angely was recognized as the
City of Milton's Employee of the Year.
I believe that recognition speaks to the
level of commitment, professionalism,
and service she has consistently
demonstrated to our organization and our
community.
In making this recommendation, I want to
share that I have spoken with members of
our senior leadership team, as well as
members of our community.
There is a high level of confidence in
Angelie's ability, uh
professionalism, and judgment. I believe
it is important to formally recognize
the leadership role she has already been
providing and give her the appropriate
title
and authority to continue that work.
On a professional level, I have had the
opportunity to work with Angelie and
observe her professionalism, dedication,
and commitment to the city of Milton. I
have seen firsthand her willingness to
take on challenges, work collaboratively
with others, and uh
help move important projects forward.
I also believe that Angelie's extensive
planning background provides the city
with an important level of institutional
knowledge.
As Milton continues to experience
development and faces increasingly
complex planning and community
development issues,
having a leader with her depth of
experience is a significant asset to our
organization.
I believe this title change
appropriately reflects the ability uh
that the level of responsibility Angelie
has been uh
taking on and provides the city with a
strong and experienced leader
uh for our community development
functions. As mayor, I am very pleased
to have Angelie Stahlnacker as a
permanent member of my leadership team.
I believe the city of Milton will
benefit greatly from her experience,
technical expertise, leadership
abilities, professionalism, and
continued commitment to our community.
Therefore,
Council, I I respectfully request your
affirmation and approval of my
appointment of Angelie Stahlnacker as
Community Development Director for the
city of Milton.
Yes, Council member
>> Move to approve the confirmation of
Angeli Stallnecker to the position of
community development director.
>> Second.
» Uh it's been moved by Council member
Hall and seconded by Council member uh
Poor. Council member Hall, would you
like to speak to your
motion?
>> Again, um Angeli is available. I mean,
she has
I've seen her work on Sundays. I've seen
her work Saturdays. I've seen her work
all this weekend um
for multiple days talking to people. Um
her dedication to the citizens and the
city
um
is above reproach.
» Thank you, Council member Poor. Would
you like to speak to your second?
>> Thank you, Mayor.
That's twice you had to beat me to the
uh punch there.
>> [laughter]
>> Sorry.
>> Um
Mayor, thank you for presenting that uh
honor honored words and um
everything that you shared on how hard
she works and serves the community. Um
all the hats she has to wear and thank
you for um
awesome endorsement.
Hard to follow that.
>> [laughter]
>> Um I personally can attest that Angeli
has been wonderful to work with. Um
you know, the biggest thing I've worked
with her on is the tree ordinance and
she's been very kind, patient, um
been able to come and compartmentalize a
lot of the different questions and also
uh helped me with different areas. Um
and especially being a new council
member, I feel that your presentations
have been really wonderful in general
across the board. And just really
appreciate um how kind you are and and
how hard it is to wear so many different
hats and you probably do the work of
several positions.
Um and so I appreciate that you took the
time to honor so much of what she does.
Thank you.
And thank you for your service.
>> Any additional discussion? Yes,
Councilmember
» I just want to acknowledge with
gratitude putting the job description in
writing so that it becomes part of the
record and it's a
very complex job description.
For sure.
>> Councilmember Roberts.
>> Thank you, Mayor. Um just on a personal
note, thank you uh for all you do. Thank
you for meeting on with me on Friday um
when the city's closed. I really
appreciate all you've done again to uh
reiterate the sentiment of John uh
Councilmember Poor, being a new
Councilmember. I mean, you're a pleth-
plethora plethora of knowledge. So, um
using all your information, all your
knowledge, all your extensive uh
education, etc. has been extremely uh
helpful. So, thank you for that.
>> Any additional discussion?
Seeing none, it's been moved by uh
Councilmember Hall and seconded by
Councilmember Poor to approve the
confirmation of Angeli Salnecker to the
position of Community Development
Director. All in favor?
>> I.
>> All opposed? Any opposed?
Motion passes. And I forgot to ask if
the audience wanted to
say anything.
>> [applause]
» ALL RIGHT.
MOVING ON TO item E, the Salary
Commission Ordinance on page 103. It's
an action item and uh Finance Director
Robeck will be presenting this item.
>> Thank you again, Mayor and Council.
Compensation for city council members
has been fixed at $400 per month since
at least 2002.
Since [snorts] this amount has been
unchanged for over 20 years, staff is
proposing the establishment of a salary
commission to review the compensation of
elected officials.
This ordinance was presented at the
study session on August 10th for first
reading. Some minor language changes
were made and a requirement that salary
commission member members be residents
of the city was added based on
discussion at that at this meeting. Um
the primary language changes were uh
changing wages and benefits to just
compensation. I think those were the
only um text changes other than adding
uh
the requirement that the residency
requirement. Um I'd be happy to take any
additional questions uh once a motion is
made.
» Would anyone like to make a motion? Yes,
Councilmember Recede.
>> Uh move to adopt ordinance 2145-26
establishing a salary commission.
» Second.
» Councilmember Recede, would you like to
speak to your motion?
>> Rather than ask leading questions, I'm
just going to say the things that I
think are important, which is that
the the council's pay, nobody here is
doing it for the pay, and this is the
alternative
um to council setting its own pay in the
future. So, this is an independent
commission
that the citizens can then have a
referendum on
if if they see fit. So,
I I think this is a good thing for
moving forward to hopefully increase
council participation, more citizens
willing to join without viewing it as a
strain on time, and actually being
fairly compensated for the work that
goes into this. So, um yeah, happy to
see this.
>> Councilmember Roberts, would you like to
speak to your second?
>> Uh yeah, so I just reiterate the same
sentiments as uh Councilmember Recede.
Uh it's been a long time since anybody
in councils uh got an change, but again,
we're we're all doing this uh you know,
because we love to help out the
community, etc. So, um this does allow
the opportunity to potentially have any
kind of increase or decrease for that
matter. So, uh yeah, it's it's uh it's
due. So, thank you.
>> Any additional discussion? Council
member Hall.
» I agree we all deserve it. Um we work
hard.
Um I feel like this was premature. I
really think it should have happened
after budget or
at least we knew what the budget is for
next year. Um because this will not come
back to council.
This will be enacted, correct?
And
that
gives me pause, um because our first job
is really the budget.
Um
and we have no way of knowing what the
costs
could be.
Um but again, you can't do it without it
because you can't do the budget. So,
it's
it it makes me nervous.
Um
we could cause
farther deficit to the budget.
>> Finance Director Rubik, um
I I believe [clears throat]
that if anything were to happen, it
would happen prior to the budget
being enacted, correct?
>> Um yeah, well, the the budget I I'm I'm
not sure how quickly the I've never been
involved with the salary commission
before. I'm not sure how quickly um
people could be appointed and a decision
could be made. Um the budget is due to
be adopted um
set to be adopted either the first or
the second meeting. It's usually at the
first meeting in December. Sometimes um
it has been the the meeting. Uh so, if
all of that could happen before that, I
could incorporate it into the 2027
budget
for approval.
>> I I believe I saw it's 60 days
>> once once appointed. Yes.
>> Once appointed, 60 days.
>> Mhm. With the option to extend that with
council approval.
>> Oh, we could extend it.
Okay. All [clears throat] righty. Thank
you.
>> Any additional discussion?
This is an action item. Would anyone
from the audience like to speak on this
issue before the council votes?
Yes, please come forward.
» [laughter]
» Um okay. I have some comments on it. So,
I dislike the timing of it. I'm not
against salary commissions. Um I looked
into it when we were going through the
salary thing back in 2020.
Um what concerns me is because there is
no guardrails on this, the state doesn't
limit um like it does with Pierce County
or with counties, the increase.
Um
since it's been so long, if council
would be willing to at this point do
something, at least you know within your
budget what you're willing to do, and
then next time appoint a salary
commission, just to bump it up somewhat.
Um to me that seems more reasonable.
And the other concern I had is with the
ordinance, under duties and process,
item C,
the salary increase shall be effective
on the next payday for city employees
once it's confirmed. Shouldn't it
acknowledge the referendum process?
Meaning you have to wait the 30 days
and then it would be on the next day.
Cuz you I don't know can you claw back
if it if the referendum happens. I
wasn't sure.
So, cuz this this ordinance doesn't
mention the referendum process at all.
So, thank you.
» Yes.
Please come forward.
» Susan Johnson did I said Ditto. That's
not my last name.
Ditto. I agree. Um I don't think this is
the time. I understand that we are under
in the city for our council many many
years. And I'm not opposed to a raise.
I'm opposed right now because we do not
know what the economy is going to be. We
don't know what grants are going to come
in. I I I think because there's so much
uncertainty in our economic condition in
the United States right now, this isn't
the time. Wait till 23. If you're doing
a three-year budget proposal concept or
two-year,
we don't have enough data right now with
what's going to happen economically in 2
years.
So, I agree that maybe if y'all want to
give yourself a little something, but
we've got more increasing in this coming
budget
than income and different things
happening. It looks like the cost to
drug that the drug courts were going to
get money, but there's still going to be
costs associated with everything.
This is not the time. We're getting
taxed more. The people are we have to do
the public safety tax.
And I think regular citizen
understands,
you know, you've given your time and
your effort and believe me, I've done a
lot of years in this city since I moved
here in 2009.
And I remember being [clears throat] on
council at 400 and I said, "Gee, with
the hours I put in, hmm, that comes down
to a cent a minute."
Because I'm committed to the city. So,
don't get me wrong. I understand.
But I think
the common person says, "I'm not getting
anything right now, either. It's just
hard right now economically for so many
people."
So, I'm asking to say yes, I agree. I
think we should have had one before.
And it didn't happen. I'm saying, go
ahead and do one, but put it for a year.
Again, the ref
referendum's very important to note and
documentation.
So, I'm just asking you to delay it.
Let's see what 27 is like
and try to set it for 2028.
I I think it's really important because
I think we're going to be
really hit, and that's just my bias,
more with costs, taxes, and economic
stress. Thank you.
» Yes, anyone else? Yes, please come
forward.
» Jacqueline Whalen, Milton, Washington.
Thank you for the opportunity to
comment. I'll do the word
text issue
on page 106 of 114.
I'm curious to know what an official is.
Does that mean someone from the Civil
Service Commission can't be on the
salary commission? Just a question.
There's nothing in there that talks
about grounds for removal from the
commission. Some cities do list that.
Uh
duties and process uh paragraph A
um there should be some better wording
in there.
Um it's missing uh well, I'll just go to
the sentence. The salary commission
shall convene and determine the
compensation paid
to the mayor and city council within 60
days of confirmation
by the city council. It just there needs
some extra words like
the city council their confirmation uh
for the I can put it in there later.
It's it's equivalent to what is in C
where it talks about
a date within the time frame of when the
commission
was confirmed by city council.
So, sorry about my muddied uh comment
there.
Uh but C
um
this these two paragraphs don't jive.
If you're saying that the review and
determination time
uh has to happen in 60 days
and C says within the 60 days
the turn determination has to be turned
in, you still have a whole legal
process, you still have the referendum
process. There's no real due date.
I've seen some cities that talk in terms
of the commission shall meet at such and
such a month. They shall meet on certain
days. Their work shall be due by such
and such a date. That gives time for
legal that gives time for a referendum
process because referendum as I
understand it is limited to certain
elections. So, there's there's just a
lot of
I know this is based on some another
city's code but uh there's just a lot of
open space in there for me.
Um
the premise that more money's going to
make more candidates, I don't know.
Where's the proof? How much money is
that going to take? The people who are
going to be on the salary commission,
where do they get their education? What
I mean is it just look around? There is
no competition here. You can't say,
"Well, I'm going to go be the mayor in
such and such a city." You are mayor
where you reside. So, competition isn't
a factor if that's the thinking of
here's why we should be doing more.
Um
who's the staff liaison? There's just
there's been no real presentation of how
this thing is to work given the fact
that we've never done it before. It'd be
kind of nice to know what we're getting
into. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
Any additional
public comment before the vote?
All right, seeing none.
It's been moved by Council Member Cedar
and seconded by Council Member Roberts
to adopt uh ordinance 2145-26
establishing a salary commission. All in
favor?
>> I.
>> Any opposed?
>> Nay.
>> Okay.
It's
passed. What do we have? Uh 5 to 1.
All right.
The next item on the agenda is item 8F
on page 109 of your packet, the police
vehicle surplus resolution 26-2006.
And uh Chief Hernandez will be
presenting this item for us.
>> Good evening, Council and guests.
Tonight uh bringing before you a
recommended action to approve resolution
26
2006 declaring obsolete police equipment
to be surplussed and authorized and
disposed.
Um many years ago uh we went through an
amortization process and uh we agreed as
a
you agreed as a legislative body
that it made more sense when a car's
value um depreciates to the point that
the repairs are more than the value of
the vehicle that we go ahead and surplus
those vehicles and this vehicle has
reached that service life. It's 12 years
old, has 83,000 miles on it. And so
tonight what I'm asking is the
authorization to go ahead and dispose of
this vehicle.
All right.
I'd entertain a motion at this time.
Council member Cedar.
>> I move to approve resolution 26-2006
declaring obsolete police equipment to
be surplus and authorizing the disposal
of same.
» Council member Cedar, would you like to
speak to your motion?
>> No. I always appreciate you bringing
this forward and our robust discussions
about the fleet. Thanks, Chief.
>> Council member Moss, would you like to
speak to your second?
>> Thank you for keeping track.
» Any additional discussion?
Council Council member Hall.
>> Chief, that is one of the best cars
to drive
because when you sit in it, you go down
into it, you feel like you're in a cage
and you it it is very comfortable. Um
but yes, they do get squeaky and wonky
and steering is
hard to drive.
Um but
it was a good car.
» It'll be available for sale.
>> [laughter]
>> What was that?
>> I said it would be available for sale.
>> No, it would be available.
>> yes.
>> [laughter]
>> Okay.
Uh Council member Roberts.
>> When?
>> [laughter]
>> When will it be for sale?
>> Uh what we usually do is we invite um at
least five people
or five companies. We put out an
advertisement to place a bid and so
um
then whoever the highest bidder is is
the one who gets the bid.
So.
>> Yeah, anyone out there interested, uh
feel free [laughter] to
contact the city.
Any additional discussion?
It's an action item. Is there anyone in
the audience that would like to speak on
this issue?
Okay, seeing none. It's been moved by
Council Member Cedar and seconded by
Council Member Mounts
to approve resolution 26-2006
declaring obsolete police equipment to
be surplus and authorizing the disposal
of same. All in favor?
>> Aye.
>> Any opposed?
Motion passes unanimously.
All right.
Moving to council reports.
Council Member Roberts.
>> Thanks, Mayor. I just like to thank the
events committee for a great showing of
Milton Days. I'd like to thank Kylie
personally for all that she's done for
that.
She worked a lot with the vendors and I
appreciate all the work because I mean
we had great food, great vendors, etc.
So, we put on a a good show. And I've
been living in Milton for 12 years and
this is the first time I've had the
opportunity to actually attend Milton
Days. So, it was a a good time.
So, yeah, thank you
to to everybody that was part of the Milton Days.
>> Council Member Mounts.
>> Ditto. Can I do that?
>> [laughter]
>> Ditto. It was It was uh
very interesting to go to Milton Days
and I enjoyed the bouncy houses and the
kids. They all had a good time. I agree
with some of the earlier comments,
public comments that were made for
points of refinement. And
just nice to see the community
come together.
>> Thank you. Council Member Cedar.
>> I Milton Days was great. Thanks so much
for everyone
putting together, being there. Just
great to see the community come
together. A lot of great comments.
>> Council Member Poor.
>> Nothing.
>> All right. Councilmember Hall?
>> I'd like to thank the city for National
Night Out. Um police department
um
great job, bouncy house,
um the touch-a-truck.
Um that is probably the most kids I've
ever seen at any event for City Milton.
Uh events was fun. Um yes, there is some
room for refinement. Um I think we
probably need to go through um jobs for
who's responsible for what.
Um and
so the volunteers understand that the
city employees are the ones
they go to.
» Councilmember McNally-Martinez?
>> Um I just want to ditto on the Milton
Days. I was very impressed with the
vendors and the volunteers. Um
I work for a city that has a lot of paid
staff that does a lot of the jobs that I
saw volunteers doing 100% by themselves,
and I appreciate that, and um thank you
for doing that for our community.
» All right. Moving on to director
reports. Uh
I was going to say planning manager
Stallnecker, but uh
I'm sorry. What is your new title?
>> Director.
>> [laughter]
>> Director. I'll just call you Director
Stallnecker.
» Um
a couple things real quick. Uh following
up for Milton Days, um
since Dustin's not here, I will do a
shout-out to the crew who was there
early, was there late. They set up, they
tore down, they were there throughout
the day picking up garbage and doing
stuff. Um they were really helpful, and
um and they
and that's sort of a volunteer I mean,
we need people to do it, but we sort of
start with who wants to do it. And I
appreciate all of them that were there.
Um, yeah, there was some
um
some adjustment at the last minute that
had that kind of got us tucked in the
corner
um
between the fish and the stage and
um
it was fine. I mean, it was loud.
>> [laughter]
>> And um it was you know, we probably
didn't reach as many people as we would
have liked. We did get to talk to a lot
of people in line for the fish. So, that
was good. A lot of kids came over. Um
Framework was there kicking off the um
the climate's information um
and so we got surprise surprise the
number one thing people definitely
always care about is sidewalks and bike
connections and then obviously
um
trees and safe parks and all of that.
So, we will kind of process some of that
um
and we'll be looking at um
some an outreach or a
We're working on
um a committee that will sort of
cover a lot of the different, you know,
getting the Puyallup Tribe involved, um
different agencies involved, different
residents involved to help guide some of
that work. So, that's all coming.
Um we just switching to Planning
Commission um
I we just heard today that it's not on
YouTube. Um
it is a new person that's running it.
She is pretty sure it recorded. Her fear
she didn't click the thing that launched
it onto YouTube. So, we have an email
out to our tech people. They will look.
Sometimes it defaults and saves it on
the computer and if you don't hit the
right button to make sure it gets
posted. So, fingers crossed we have the
recording um
and that we can post it later. Um and
her and I will go through it again and
make sure we're hitting all of those
boxes. So, apologize for that. Um and
then we are another thing with planning
commission. I will be gone the week of
September 8th for a conference and
that's when the next regularly scheduled
planning commission is. So, the planning
commission is basically moving that to
August 26th. So, a week from Wednesday
we will do
um
that meeting will sort of take place of
the September meeting. Um we are talking
we are um reviewing some the kind of the
next proposal for trees that the city
council kick um sent back to them, as
well as looking at some um
updates to definitions and table of uses
and stuff. So, that'll all be coming
back in September. So,
um I think that's it. And then thank you
for all the nice words.
» Thank you. Um Finance Director Robey.
>> No comment.
>> Chief Fernandez.
>> Uh just want to reiterate National Night
Out was great and really want to thank
Jessica and Nils for all the hard work
that they did and it's the biggest
turnout that I've seen in 12 years that
I've been here. So, we'll continue with
that tradition every year
and make it bigger. And it was nice to
meet and greet with the community.
Milton Days was great and want to thank
all the volunteer staff and all the help
that they provided, the events
committee, and a special shout out to
Jessica, Nils, and Tim for their
tireless effort on the staff end of
coordinating and working with the events
committee to get this all pulled
together.
And uh we have a tentative agreement
with the guild where we're waiting their
vote and so I'll be bringing the uh
hopefully a completed uh and ratified
agreement back for council's
consideration. And uh we're quite
pleased with uh
the bargaining and how fast it was able
to happen.
And
if you say something, if you see
something, say something.
And together we're stronger.
>> Thank you, Chief.
Um
I noticed that we do have one of the
members of our events committee here,
and if
you'd indulge me, I'd like to give her a
hand for
>> [applause]
» for putting together a great Milton
Days, and
six of the seven members were brand new,
and so
they
I'm impressed. Thank you so very much.
Um
I was a chauffeur on for most of the day
for Milton Days. I was
taking vendors back and forth uh
to parking at the in the morning and
also in the afternoon.
And
the comments that I got in the afternoon
were that the repeat vendors were saying
that it was the the best Milton Days
that they had experienced so far.
And that uh
that they were looking forward to next
year. And so
yeah,
the events committee and the city staff
that supported them
did a wonderful job. And thank you so
very much, and thank you to the
community for making it such a success.
Um with that is there
anything else for this evening?
Okay. Uh seeing that all agenda items
have been concluded, I adjourn this
meeting at 8:00