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Good morning everyone.  My name

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is elliot payne, president of

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minneapolis city council.

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before we convene our meeting,

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we have the presentation of one

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horary resolution recognizing

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disability pride month.  I'll

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invite council member whiting to

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give that presentation.

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» Thank you.  And I'll invite

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our honored guests to come on

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up, as well.  Thank you.

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u thank you for being here.

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resolution for 2026 disability

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pride month.  Disability pride

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month is celebrated in july to

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acknowledge that the americans

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with disabilities act of 1990

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(ada) was signednto law on

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july 26, 1990; and thousands of

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resides who have disabilities

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live, work, learn, and play in

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the city of minneapolis; and

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whereas: people with

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disabilities are valued and

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essential members of the city o

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contributing to its economy,

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arts, and sports communities; ad

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whereas: people with

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disabilities have intersectional

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identities that improve

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communities and enhance culture

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thugh their lived experiences; d

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whereas: the city of minneapoli

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acknowledges the long history o

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discrimination against

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minneapolis residents with

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disabilities and recognizes the

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decades of activism and advocac

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by the disability community,

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including the city of

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minneapolis's advisory commiee

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on people with disabilities

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which was established in 1976; d

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whereas: the city of minneapoli

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acknowledges that the lives of

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people with disabilities are

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rth celebrating this month and

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every month, and that

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protections under the ada must

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be preserved for generations to

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┘now, therefore, be it resolve┘

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that the mayor and city council

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do hereby recognize an

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celebrate july 2026 as

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disability pride month in the

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city of minneapolis.

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[ applause ]

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thank you.  And I'll pass it

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over to our guests here.  We

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have our honored guest ken,

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chair of our minneapolis

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advisory committee on dability

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disabilities.  I'll pass

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it over to ken to say a few

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notes.  Thank you, ken.

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» Thank you.  I'd like to

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extend greetings from my

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committee members that serve on

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the minneapolis advisory

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committee on pple with

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disabilities.  And I'm really

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happy to report that as of last

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year with the redesign of city

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advisory boards and commissions,

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we, for the first time in a

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very, very, very long time had

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full membership with a member

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representing each of our seats.

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we expect the same thing to

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continue this year.  So tt's

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not done alone.  That was done

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by everyone, and especiallycoune

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to the important work.  I want

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to just say just a couple of

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words about people that live

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with disabilities and the value

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they bring.  I don't need to

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share -- you guys all kno that.

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but it's really important that

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we recognize and uphold our

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values in ways that go beyond

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just our daily work.  And what

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we each represent individually.

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resolution sounds really simple,

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right.  Words get made, put on

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paper, and they're nice words.

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but the importance is what those

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words mean.  And it codifies

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what we believes a city and as

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an entity, a municipality that

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reprents citizens of all

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stripes and sizes and

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conditions.

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and for my, many, many years,

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people with disabilities were

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not visible.  We were kept

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separate.  We were kept behind

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the scenes.  It was shameful.

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there was a lot of negativity

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attached to living with a

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disability.  Especially a

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visible disability.  But life

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has changed.  And we have e

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edger manied -- emerged as our

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rights have been restored and

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focused on to make life as equal

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as possible for everybody.

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and because of that, we are

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independent today.  We're out

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and about.  I doubt you go

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through ur day without seeing

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somebody with a disability in

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the community just in your daily

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work.  We're visible, we're

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proud, and this resolution puts

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all of that together and adds

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the city of minneapolis, the

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council members, and the mayor's

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value of what people with

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disabilities bring to all ofur

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work.  It makes our city better.

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it makes us better as human

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beings.  And I'm so proud to be

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representing the minneapolis

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advisory committee on people

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with disabilities, which, by the

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way, celebrates its 50th year

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of existence!  As mayor frey

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shared last night at our council

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meeting, we're probably one of

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the oldest and longest-standing

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disability advisory committees

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in a municipality in the u.s.

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this is 50 years of accumulated

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work!  So I thank you.  We

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can't do this alone.  We can't

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make anybody do anything.  We're

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here to advise, and thank you

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for putting the spotlight on

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people with disabilities with

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lived experience of disability

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to help us all be a better city

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and a better council and

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better serve our citizens.  I

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appreciate being here and your

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work and I want to lift that up.

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thank you.

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» Thank you.  I couldn't say it

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better myself!  Anthony, if you

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have anything.  Otherwise we can

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take a picture over here.  Zoe,

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if you can note where you're at,

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that would be perfect.

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» Thank you everyone.  At this

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time, I'm going to call this

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regular meeting of the city

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council for july 16th to

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order.  The clerk will call the

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» Council member chavez.

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» Present.

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» Council member warren.

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» Council member shaffer.

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» Council member wonsley.

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» Is absent.  Council member

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chughtai is absent.  Council

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member whiting.

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» Resent.

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» Council memr chowdhury.

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» Council member stevenson.

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» Council member rainville.

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» Council member palmisano.

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» Vice president osman.  Is

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absent.  President payne.

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» Present.

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» 10 members present.

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» L the record reflect we

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have a q quorum.  Let me

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remind all that this meeting is

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broadcast live to enable greater

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public participation.  The

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broadcast includes real time

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captioning as a means to

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increase the accessibility of

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our proceedings to the

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community.  All speakers need to

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be mindful of the rate of our

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of their comments.  I'll also

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note we've been joined by

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president osman.  With that, the

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agenda for today's meeting is

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before us.  Any amendments to

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the agenda?  May I have a motion

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to adopt the agenda?

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» So moved.

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» The clerk will call the

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» Council member chavez.

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» Council member yne.

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» Council member chowdhury.

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» Council member stevenson.

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» Vice president osman.

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» President payne.

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» >>: that carries and the

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agenda is adopted.  And the next

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item is acceptance of the

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minutes from our regular meeting

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of june 25th.  May I have a

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» So moved.

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» Council member chavez.

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» Warren.

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» Shaff.

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» Wonsley.

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» Aye.

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» Whiting.

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» Chowdhury.

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» Aye.

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» V vice president osman and

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president payne.

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» We have the referral of

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may I have tt motion, please.

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» So moved.

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» Clerk will call the roll.

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» Shaffer.

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» Wonsley.

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» Aye.

292
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» Whiting.

293
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» Aye.

294
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» Chowdhury.

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» Aye.

296
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» Stevenson.

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» Aye.

298
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» Rainville.

299
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» Aye.

300
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» Vetaw.

301
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» Aye.

302
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» Palmisano.

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» Aye.

304
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» Vice president osman.

305
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» Aye.

306
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» President payne.

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» Aye.

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» 12 ayes.

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» That carries and the matters

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have been referred.  The next

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order of business is the

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presentation of reports from our

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standing committees, .  Wll

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begin with the report ofur

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budget committee given by the

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committee's vice chair, council

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member shaffer.

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» Thank you, mr. President.

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the budget committee is bringing

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forward one item.  Item one

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accepts 3w-6789 rny

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discretionary community project

323
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funding programs for evaluation

324
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problem nature codes and proves

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appropriation of funds to the

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office of community safety.

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I'll move approval of this

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item.

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» Council member shaffer has

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moved approval of the committee

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report.  Any discussion?  Seeing

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ne.  I'll ask the clerk to

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call the roll.

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» Chavez.

335
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» Aye.

336
00:10:28,016 --> 00:10:28,850
» Warren.

337
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» Aye.

338
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» Shaffer.

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» Aye.

340
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» Wonsley.

341
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» Aye.

342
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» Hiting.

343
00:10:33,416 --> 00:10:34,783
» Aye.

344
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» Chowdhury.

345
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» Aye.

346
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» Stevenson.

347
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» Aye.

348
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» Rainville.

349
00:10:38,250 --> 00:10:39,116
» Aye.

350
00:10:38,950 --> 00:10:39,850
» Vetaw.

351
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» Aye.

352
00:10:40,416 --> 00:10:41,250
» Palmisano.

353
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» Aye.

354
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» Osman.

355
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» Aye

356
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» President payne

357
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» Aye.

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» 12 ayes.

359
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» That carries and the report

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is adopted.  Next we have the

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report of the business, housing

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with and zoning committee given

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by the chair, vice president

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osman.

365
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» Thank you, mr. President.

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we're bringing 17 items forward

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today.  One approves a liquor

368
00:11:05,250 --> 00:11:08,950
with limited entertainment

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00:11:06,916 --> 00:11:11,683
license for bill's bait shop.

370
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two approves an extension of

371
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premises and street cafe license

372
00:11:13,883 --> 00:11:18,250
for bryant lake bowl.  Item

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three  a wine and strong beer

374
00:11:18,350 --> 00:11:22,483
with no entertainment license

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for antojitos.

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.  Four approves a financing

377
00:11:26,083 --> 00:11:31,450
for the grain exchange

378
00:11:28,183 --> 00:11:33,983
conversion project.  This item,

379
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item five is variance appeal for

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the property at 4710 sent

381
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forward without recommendation.

382
00:11:42,616 --> 00:11:47,283
six approves six liquor

383
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licenses.  Seven is approving 24

384
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liquor license renewals.  Eight

385
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is two gambling licenses.  Nine

386
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is amended breakfast barf

387
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mibar of minnesota.  10

388
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is bid for minneapolis

389
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convention center.  11 loan

390
00:12:09,116 --> 00:12:15,016
restructure for jigija business

391
00:12:12,550 --> 00:12:22,616
center.  12 is minneapolis homes

392
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financing rehab project.    13

393
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altdtive financing program.  14

394
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is hennepin county housing and

395
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redevelopment authority.  15 is

396
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loan contract with metro con

397
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issue chum of community

398
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developers.  16 approves two

399
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street vacation north of

400
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franklin avenue west.  And

401
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lastly item 17 is a local

402
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historic landmark destination

403
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for the lakeshore arms

404
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apartments.  Sent forward

405
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without recommendation.  I'll

406
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move for approval except for 5,

407
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15, and 17.  Thank you.

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» Vice president osman has

409
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moved approval of the committee

410
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report minus items 5 and 15.

411
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any discussion on the remainder

412
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of the report?  Cncil member

413
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whiting.

414
00:13:06,850 --> 00:13:08,983
» Thank you, president payne.

415
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» And 17.

416
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» I have to note, I'll have to

417
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recuse myself from item number

418
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15 for a personal conflict.

419
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» Noted.  Council member

420
00:13:19,516 --> 00:13:20,583
chowdhury.

421
00:13:19,783 --> 00:13:23,883
» Thank you, presidentayne.

422
00:13:21,050 --> 00:13:26,650
I wanted to take a second to

423
00:13:23,983 --> 00:13:28,750
highlight item number one.  It's

424
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a big dl for the restaurant to

425
00:13:28,950 --> 00:13:35,350
come into the 12th ward.  In

426
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corner used to have chicago's

427
00:13:35,550 --> 00:13:38,150
taste authority, which provided

428
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a lot of activation in the area,

429
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walkable area for community

430
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members to come and walk in thee

431
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bill's bail shop, a woman-owned

432
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local business to come into the

433
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neighborhood and to provide a

434
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bar and karaoke and all the

435
00:13:54,483 --> 00:13:57,616
activations is something that

436
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has spread across the 12th

437
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ward.  People want me places

438
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where they can walk at night to

439
00:14:00,983 --> 00:14:03,950
grab a drink or hang with

440
00:14:02,583 --> 00:14:09,616
friends.  And I have never seen

441
00:14:04,383 --> 00:14:11,250
so many e-mails and calls andtes

442
00:14:09,716 --> 00:14:13,150
business.  And any type of

443
00:14:11,350 --> 00:14:14,916
business coming in.  It

444
00:14:13,250 --> 00:14:16,183
highlights how exciting it is

445
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and how dynamic it will be for

446
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the neighborhood.  I wanted to

447
00:14:17,316 --> 00:14:20,516
thank the business owner for

448
00:14:19,450 --> 00:14:22,150
coming into the committee and I

449
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so wanted to take some time to

450
00:14:22,250 --> 00:14:26,783
thank the neighbors who reached

451
00:14:23,350 --> 00:14:28,950
out to my oice in support of

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this.  And shared what they're

453
00:14:29,050 --> 00:14:38,050
hoping for in the location.

454
00:14:35,283 --> 00:14:39,183
» Seeing no one else left in

455
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queue, I'll ask the clerk to

456
00:14:39,283 --> 00:14:45,916
call the roll on committee

457
00:14:42,116 --> 00:14:47,183
report minus items 5, 15, and

458
00:14:46,016 --> 00:14:48,350
17.

459
00:14:47,516 --> 00:14:49,783
» Council member chavez.

460
00:14:49,350 --> 00:14:50,216
» Aye.

461
00:14:49,883 --> 00:14:51,250
» Wren.

462
00:14:51,116 --> 00:14:51,816
» Aye.

463
00:14:51,616 --> 00:14:52,583
» Shaffer.

464
00:14:52,450 --> 00:14:53,750
» Aye.

465
00:14:53,550 --> 00:14:56,316
» Wonsley.

466
00:14:53,900 --> 00:14:57,150
» Is absent.  Council member

467
00:14:56,416 --> 00:14:57,383
whiting.

468
00:14:57,250 --> 00:14:58,050
» Aye.

469
00:14:57,816 --> 00:14:58,616
» Chowdhury.

470
00:14:58,483 --> 00:15:00,250
» Aye.

471
00:14:59,283 --> 00:15:00,483
» Stevenson.

472
00:15:00,350 --> 00:15:01,550
» Aye.

473
00:15:00,983 --> 00:15:01,783
» Rainville.

474
00:15:01,650 --> 00:15:02,716
» Aye.

475
00:15:02,016 --> 00:15:03,316
» Council member vetaw.

476
00:15:03,183 --> 00:15:04,916
» Aye.

477
00:15:03,550 --> 00:15:05,150
» Council member palmisano.

478
00:15:05,016 --> 00:15:06,450
» Aye.

479
00:15:05,350 --> 00:15:06,683
» Vice president osman.

480
00:15:06,550 --> 00:15:08,250
» Aye.

481
00:15:06,850 --> 00:15:08,616
» President payne.

482
00:15:08,483 --> 00:15:10,083
» Aye.

483
00:15:08,850 --> 00:15:12,916
» There are 11 ayes.

484
00:15:11,450 --> 00:15:15,816
» That carries.  Next we'll

485
00:15:13,016 --> 00:15:17,250
take up item number 5, and I'll

486
00:15:15,916 --> 00:15:19,183
recognize council member vetaw.

487
00:15:17,483 --> 00:15:21,783
» Thank you, president payne.

488
00:15:19,283 --> 00:15:24,883
I would just like to move to

489
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grant the appeal submitted by

490
00:15:24,983 --> 00:15:29,650
wayne  behalf of family

491
00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:31,366
partnership llp regarding the

492
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decision of the zoning board of

493
00:15:31,483 --> 00:15:34,850
adjustment denying the

494
00:15:32,850 --> 00:15:36,650
application forhe variance

495
00:15:34,950 --> 00:15:39,916
from the screening requirements

496
00:15:36,750 --> 00:15:43,916
for refused and recycling

497
00:15:40,016 --> 00:15:45,416
containers on the property

498
00:15:44,016 --> 00:15:47,150
located 4710 humbolt avenue

499
00:15:45,516 --> 00:15:50,783
north based on the findings you

500
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should have it in front of you.

501
00:15:50,883 --> 00:15:52,116
so I'd like to make that

502
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motion.

503
00:15:53,716 --> 00:15:55,450
» Second.

504
00:15:54,116 --> 00:15:59,750
» That's been moved and

505
00:15:55,550 --> 00:16:00,850
seconded.  Any discussion?

506
00:15:59,850 --> 00:16:03,016
seeing none.  I'll ask the clerk

507
00:16:00,950 --> 00:16:04,016
to call the roll.

508
00:16:03,316 --> 00:16:04,583
» Council member chavez.

509
00:16:04,450 --> 00:16:05,416
» Aye.

510
00:16:04,850 --> 00:16:05,783
» Council member warren.

511
00:16:05,683 --> 00:16:07,016
» Aye

512
00:16:06,050 --> 00:16:07,250
» Council member shaffer.

513
00:16:07,116 --> 00:16:08,150
» Aye.

514
00:16:07,383 --> 00:16:08,983
» Council member whiting.

515
00:16:08,450 --> 00:16:09,916
» Aye.

516
00:16:09,083 --> 00:16:10,450
» Council membe chowdhury.

517
00:16:10,316 --> 00:16:11,783
» Aye.

518
00:16:10,983 --> 00:16:12,483
» Council member stevenson.

519
00:16:11,916 --> 00:16:13,416
» Aye.

520
00:16:12,583 --> 00:16:13,916
» Council member rainville.

521
00:16:13,733 --> 00:16:14,816
» Aye.

522
00:16:14,150 --> 00:16:15,483
» Council member vetaw.

523
00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:16,416
» Aye.

524
00:16:15,750 --> 00:16:16,983
» Council member palmisano.

525
00:16:16,850 --> 00:16:17,850
» Aye.

526
00:16:17,250 --> 00:16:18,316
» Vice president osman.

527
00:16:18,183 --> 00:16:18,983
» Aye.

528
00:16:18,616 --> 00:16:20,216
» President payne.

529
00:16:19,883 --> 00:16:20,716
» Aye.

530
00:16:20,316 --> 00:16:23,683
» 11 ayes.

531
00:16:21,183 --> 00:16:27,483
» That carries.  Next we'll

532
00:16:23,783 --> 00:16:29,700
take up item number 15.  Is

533
00:16:27,583 --> 00:16:33,316
there any further discussion on

534
00:16:30,516 --> 00:16:34,350
this item?  Seeing none I'll ask

535
00:16:33,416 --> 00:16:37,283
the clerk to call the roll.

536
00:16:36,216 --> 00:16:38,116
» Council member chavez.

537
00:16:37,983 --> 00:16:39,650
» Aye.

538
00:16:38,316 --> 00:16:39,883
» Council member warren.

539
00:16:39,750 --> 00:16:40,716
» Aye.

540
00:16:40,116 --> 00:16:41,183
» Council member shaffer.

541
00:16:41,050 --> 00:16:42,083
» Aye.

542
00:16:41,450 --> 00:16:42,916
» Council member whiting.

543
00:16:42,316 --> 00:16:44,616
» Ab contain.

544
00:16:43,083 --> 00:16:45,016
» Council member chowdhury.

545
00:16:44,883 --> 00:16:46,483
» Aye.

546
00:16:45,316 --> 00:16:46,716
» Council member stevenson.

547
00:16:46,583 --> 00:16:47,583
» Aye.

548
00:16:46,916 --> 00:16:48,116
» Council member rainville.

549
00:16:47,983 --> 00:16:49,750
» Aye.

550
00:16:48,916 --> 00:16:50,216
» Council member vetaw.

551
00:16:50,050 --> 00:16:51,050
» Aye.

552
00:16:50,416 --> 00:16:51,616
» Council member palmisano.

553
00:16:51,483 --> 00:16:53,450
» Aye.

554
00:16:52,783 --> 00:16:53,950
» Vice president osman.

555
00:16:53,816 --> 00:16:54,683
» Aye.

556
00:16:54,183 --> 00:16:55,216
» President pay.

557
00:16:55,083 --> 00:16:57,683
» Aye.

558
00:16:55,483 --> 00:17:00,116
» 10 ayes and one abstention.

559
00:16:57,850 --> 00:17:01,350
» That carries.  Next up item

560
00:17:00,216 --> 00:17:02,616
number 17 and I'll recognize

561
00:17:01,450 --> 00:17:05,316
council memr shaffer.

562
00:17:03,583 --> 00:17:09,116
» Thank you, president payne.

563
00:17:05,416 --> 00:17:10,216
I'm making motion to deny this

564
00:17:09,216 --> 00:17:12,350
designation for several reasons.

565
00:17:10,316 --> 00:17:13,683
I'll take a few minutes to

566
00:17:12,450 --> 00:17:15,250
outline that.  While historic

567
00:17:13,783 --> 00:17:17,150
p preservation is important

568
00:17:15,516 --> 00:17:18,883
to me, and it should be to

569
00:17:17,250 --> 00:17:20,550
everyone.  This is a marginal

570
00:17:18,983 --> 00:17:23,250
nomination of a property that's

571
00:17:20,650 --> 00:17:25,683
not remotely unique.  It happens

572
00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:27,683
to be located, also, in a

573
00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:29,883
transit corridor surrounded by

574
00:17:27,783 --> 00:17:32,350
more dense multiunit housing.

575
00:17:30,350 --> 00:17:33,383
this area is growing fast.  And

576
00:17:32,450 --> 00:17:35,650
while the current owner says

577
00:17:33,483 --> 00:17:37,716
they have no plans currently to

578
00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:41,350
redevelop the property, granting

579
00:17:37,816 --> 00:17:44,383
this designation would forever

580
00:17:41,450 --> 00:17:46,583
forclose the possibility in an

581
00:17:44,483 --> 00:17:47,683
area rapidly growing two blocks

582
00:17:46,683 --> 00:17:50,216
from the southwest light rail,

583
00:17:47,783 --> 00:17:53,850
and is one of the city's bright

584
00:17:50,316 --> 00:17:56,183
housing spots.  Out of seven

585
00:17:54,483 --> 00:17:58,850
significant criteria, only one

586
00:17:56,283 --> 00:18:02,750
was found in the staff report in

587
00:17:58,950 --> 00:18:04,350
lims.  Reportedly embodies the

588
00:18:03,250 --> 00:18:06,650
spanish style of the early

589
00:18:04,450 --> 00:18:08,350
20th century.  Nothing of

590
00:18:06,750 --> 00:18:11,483
historical note happened here.

591
00:18:08,450 --> 00:18:14,383
and it's not a unique resource.

592
00:18:11,583 --> 00:18:15,816
the staff report alone documents

593
00:18:14,883 --> 00:18:18,850
17 other properties throughout

594
00:18:15,916 --> 00:18:21,116
the city by the same architect,

595
00:18:19,250 --> 00:18:23,616
c.j. Bart in the same style,

596
00:18:21,216 --> 00:18:26,083
from the exact same period,

597
00:18:23,716 --> 00:18:28,116
1930s.  It's not a unique

598
00:18:26,183 --> 00:18:29,916
resource.  The problem with this

599
00:18:28,450 --> 00:18:31,850
nomination is that in order to,

600
00:18:30,016 --> 00:18:34,483
quote, embody the style, it is

601
00:18:31,950 --> 00:18:36,383
not enough to be simply one of

602
00:18:34,583 --> 00:18:39,783
an example.  But embodiment

603
00:18:36,483 --> 00:18:42,016
means it should be a very good

604
00:18:39,883 --> 00:18:43,083
to exceptional example.  A

605
00:18:42,116 --> 00:18:45,483
review of the quick review of

606
00:18:43,283 --> 00:18:48,316
the staff report here shows that

607
00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:49,316
it's not the case.  Look at the

608
00:18:48,416 --> 00:18:52,483
moorish mansion, for example.

609
00:18:49,416 --> 00:18:54,516
this is an average to below

610
00:18:52,583 --> 00:18:56,383
building on the docket here

611
00:18:54,616 --> 00:18:58,550
today in environment where many

612
00:18:56,483 --> 00:18:59,983
other better candidates exist.

613
00:18:58,650 --> 00:19:02,350
if there's truly a need to

614
00:19:00,183 --> 00:19:04,016
preserve an example of spanish

615
00:19:02,450 --> 00:19:06,150
eclectic, we should find the

616
00:19:04,116 --> 00:19:07,916
best example we can set and find

617
00:19:06,250 --> 00:19:10,583
that sets the standard or

618
00:19:08,016 --> 00:19:12,950
embodies this particular style.

619
00:19:10,683 --> 00:19:13,550
this isn't it.  Another

620
00:19:13,050 --> 00:19:15,516
important difference between

621
00:19:13,650 --> 00:19:18,416
this property and the other

622
00:19:15,950 --> 00:19:19,350
dozen half of c.j. Barts

623
00:19:18,516 --> 00:19:21,383
apartments, those other

624
00:19:19,450 --> 00:19:23,350
properties are largely located

625
00:19:21,483 --> 00:19:25,150
in residential areas.  That are

626
00:19:23,450 --> 00:19:26,250
not on major transit routes and

627
00:19:25,250 --> 00:19:28,183
aren't growing by leaps and

628
00:19:26,350 --> 00:19:28,983
bounds.  While the area

629
00:19:28,283 --> 00:19:30,716
surrounding these properties

630
00:19:29,083 --> 00:19:32,783
look largely like they did in

631
00:19:31,250 --> 00:19:35,250
the 1930s, the lake shore arms

632
00:19:32,883 --> 00:19:36,950
does not.  It is bounded by lake

633
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:39,383
point condos to the east,

634
00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:40,650
roughly 20 to 25 stories.  And

635
00:19:39,483 --> 00:19:42,250
several mid rise apartment

636
00:19:40,750 --> 00:19:44,116
buildings five or six stories to

637
00:19:42,350 --> 00:19:45,883
the west.  It's on a major

638
00:19:44,216 --> 00:19:47,816
transit route already, and

639
00:19:45,983 --> 00:19:50,850
designating historical

640
00:19:47,916 --> 00:19:52,716
significance to this particular

641
00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:54,850
building will permanently

642
00:19:52,816 --> 00:19:56,350
foreclosure the preferred

643
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:59,183
development designated for the

644
00:19:56,450 --> 00:20:01,350
area under the 2040 plan.

645
00:19:59,283 --> 00:20:02,616
while I appreciate the urge to

646
00:20:01,450 --> 00:20:03,983
preserve our history, this

647
00:20:02,716 --> 00:20:06,450
particular nomination creates

648
00:20:04,083 --> 00:20:08,050
more problems than it solves.

649
00:20:06,550 --> 00:20:10,050
these apartments, in this style,

650
00:20:08,150 --> 00:20:13,783
are abundant.  This isn't close

651
00:20:10,150 --> 00:20:14,883
to the best example.  And it's

652
00:20:13,883 --> 00:20:17,183
setting on lake street has

653
00:20:15,250 --> 00:20:18,483
changed.  And modernized

654
00:20:17,283 --> 00:20:20,450
drastically in the intervening

655
00:20:18,716 --> 00:20:22,383
90 years.  And this can be

656
00:20:20,550 --> 00:20:23,683
expected to continue for the

657
00:20:22,483 --> 00:20:26,283
foreseeable future.  If we want

658
00:20:23,783 --> 00:20:28,550
to preserve the feel of spanish

659
00:20:26,383 --> 00:20:29,583
eclectic in the 1930s, there

660
00:20:28,650 --> 00:20:31,550
are better places to do it in

661
00:20:29,683 --> 00:20:32,550
the city than here.  I

662
00:20:31,650 --> 00:20:34,683
respectfully request my

663
00:20:32,650 --> 00:20:36,616
colleagues join with me to deny

664
00:20:34,783 --> 00:20:39,850
the historic designation for the

665
00:20:36,716 --> 00:20:41,350
ward 7 property.

666
00:20:40,150 --> 00:20:42,783
» Is there a second?

667
00:20:42,616 --> 00:20:45,783
» Second.

668
00:20:42,983 --> 00:20:48,750
» Council member stevenson.

669
00:20:45,883 --> 00:20:50,683
» Yes.  Thank you.  I spoke

670
00:20:48,850 --> 00:20:52,350
with council member shaffer

671
00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,816
yesterday and asked this.  I

672
00:20:52,450 --> 00:20:56,216
want to the ask again.  Is there

673
00:20:53,916 --> 00:20:58,116
any way that we could delay this

674
00:20:56,316 --> 00:21:01,283
and have staff think about it

675
00:20:58,216 --> 00:21:02,750
more?  I think that you told me

676
00:21:01,383 --> 00:21:05,516
that this is a strong case.  And

677
00:21:02,850 --> 00:21:08,183
that you think staff is somewhat

678
00:21:05,616 --> 00:21:09,450
behind it.  And so I would be

679
00:21:08,283 --> 00:21:10,783
interested in supportingtaff

680
00:21:10,083 --> 00:21:12,250
and supporting you at the same

681
00:21:10,883 --> 00:21:13,683
time.  So I'm wondering if we

682
00:21:12,350 --> 00:21:15,950
can make that happen.

683
00:21:13,983 --> 00:21:16,983
» No.  We're going to move this

684
00:21:16,050 --> 00:21:18,250
forward today.  Just because of

685
00:21:17,083 --> 00:21:20,450
the work that I've already put

686
00:21:18,350 --> 00:21:21,583
into this and writing the fact

687
00:21:20,550 --> 00:21:23,583
finding and working with staff

688
00:21:21,683 --> 00:21:25,016
behind the scenes.  And bringing

689
00:21:24,016 --> 00:21:27,850
forward the arguments we feel

690
00:21:25,116 --> 00:21:28,483
are most pertinent to the

691
00:21:28,150 --> 00:21:31,116
decision.

692
00:21:28,583 --> 00:21:34,083
» Council member chavez.

693
00:21:31,883 --> 00:21:35,683
» Ah, thank you, president

694
00:21:34,183 --> 00:21:43,750
payne.  Is staff here to answer

695
00:21:35,783 --> 00:21:47,416
a few questions?  So what was --

696
00:21:43,850 --> 00:21:49,516
can you walk us through the

697
00:21:47,516 --> 00:21:50,850
original item, which is business

698
00:21:49,616 --> 00:21:52,650
item number 17.  That was

699
00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:53,783
brought forward to council.  And

700
00:21:52,950 --> 00:21:55,783
what was staff recommendation.

701
00:21:54,483 --> 00:21:58,150
» President payne, members of

702
00:21:55,883 --> 00:22:00,616
the council.  My name is erik

703
00:21:58,250 --> 00:22:02,083
hansen, director of cped.  And I

704
00:22:00,816 --> 00:22:03,383
just walked in.  So I'm not

705
00:22:02,183 --> 00:22:06,416
exactly sure what item we're

706
00:22:03,483 --> 00:22:07,116
talking about.  I think it's the

707
00:22:06,516 --> 00:22:07,683
historic designation of the

708
00:22:07,216 --> 00:22:08,216
building on lake street.

709
00:22:08,050 --> 00:22:10,483
» Yes.

710
00:22:08,650 --> 00:22:14,216
» Okay.  All right.

711
00:22:10,916 --> 00:22:15,850
if it would -- if I could get

712
00:22:14,316 --> 00:22:17,383
some assistance from president

713
00:22:15,950 --> 00:22:21,716
payne.  Could we delay this and

714
00:22:17,483 --> 00:22:23,916
I can get staff from -- oh.

715
00:22:21,816 --> 00:22:25,083
there we go.  I was just about

716
00:22:24,016 --> 00:22:25,450
to get him.

717
00:22:25,183 --> 00:22:26,716
[ laughter ]

718
00:22:25,550 --> 00:22:27,316
all right.  Rob.

719
00:22:27,183 --> 00:22:29,683
» Rob.

720
00:22:28,183 --> 00:22:31,416
» Welcome!  I you can

721
00:22:29,783 --> 00:22:32,850
introduce yourself.

722
00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:33,150
» Defer to rob for the

723
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:35,650
information.

724
00:22:33,250 --> 00:22:39,450
» Thank you, erik hansen.

725
00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:41,483
cthank you.  I believecouncil ma

726
00:22:39,550 --> 00:22:44,016
question.  Could you repeat it.

727
00:22:41,883 --> 00:22:45,216
» Yeah.  What is item number

728
00:22:44,116 --> 00:22:46,383
17.  So the public understands.

729
00:22:45,516 --> 00:22:47,916
what was the recommendation from

730
00:22:46,483 --> 00:22:48,616
staff?  And if you can start by

731
00:22:48,016 --> 00:22:53,483
introducing yourself.

732
00:22:48,716 --> 00:22:54,850
» Sure.  Rob skill lek I can in

733
00:22:53,583 --> 00:22:56,216
planning.  The item that we're

734
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:58,016
considering today is the

735
00:22:56,316 --> 00:23:01,583
landmark designation of lake

736
00:22:58,116 --> 00:23:02,683
shore arms apartments located at

737
00:23:01,683 --> 00:23:04,950
3026 lake street west.

738
00:23:02,783 --> 00:23:07,050
considered by the minneapolis

739
00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:09,150
hpc at their meeting in june.

740
00:23:07,150 --> 00:23:11,483
and this went in front of

741
00:23:09,250 --> 00:23:12,950
business, housing, and zoning

742
00:23:11,583 --> 00:23:14,116
committe at the last meeting.

743
00:23:13,050 --> 00:23:15,350
staff recommending approval

744
00:23:14,216 --> 00:23:18,050
based on a study conducted over

745
00:23:15,450 --> 00:23:19,116
the past year following the

746
00:23:18,150 --> 00:23:22,050
buildings nomination back in

747
00:23:19,216 --> 00:23:24,050
august of last year.

748
00:23:22,416 --> 00:23:25,883
so city staff recommending

749
00:23:24,150 --> 00:23:27,383
approval of the heritage

750
00:23:26,116 --> 00:23:29,050
preservation commission voted to

751
00:23:27,683 --> 00:23:30,616
recommend approval at a

752
00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:32,250
business, housing, zoning

753
00:23:30,716 --> 00:23:33,316
committee and forwarded without

754
00:23:32,350 --> 00:23:34,983
recommendation.  So that's where

755
00:23:33,416 --> 00:23:36,450
we're at now.  This is, again,

756
00:23:35,216 --> 00:23:40,350
considering the landmark

757
00:23:36,550 --> 00:23:40,650
designation of lake shore arms

758
00:23:40,450 --> 00:23:42,983
apartments.

759
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,783
» Tha you.  Yeah.  I had a

760
00:23:43,083 --> 00:23:46,016
question.  Because that was my

761
00:23:44,883 --> 00:23:46,916
understanding.  And the

762
00:23:46,116 --> 00:23:49,683
business, housing, and zoning

763
00:23:47,016 --> 00:23:50,816
committee.  It's part of why I'm

764
00:23:49,783 --> 00:23:51,983
undecided on what to do with

765
00:23:50,916 --> 00:23:54,783
this particular item.  I think

766
00:23:52,083 --> 00:23:56,766
staff has done their work.  Has

767
00:23:54,883 --> 00:23:57,883
done their own findings.  And

768
00:23:56,883 --> 00:24:00,850
then the other component I'm

769
00:23:57,983 --> 00:24:04,416
concerned about is the variety

770
00:24:00,950 --> 00:24:05,450
of other buildings that could be

771
00:24:04,516 --> 00:24:06,950
designated for heritage

772
00:24:05,550 --> 00:24:08,483
preservation in the future.  And

773
00:24:07,050 --> 00:24:10,483
what impact that would have, if

774
00:24:09,450 --> 00:24:11,950
we were to then move forward

775
00:24:10,583 --> 00:24:13,383
with the other buildings.  And

776
00:24:12,050 --> 00:24:14,250
what it would do to the

777
00:24:13,483 --> 00:24:16,483
development of housing across

778
00:24:14,350 --> 00:24:18,000
the city.  However, that --

779
00:24:16,583 --> 00:24:19,416
those are case-by-case

780
00:24:18,116 --> 00:24:21,983
scenarios.  So that is not a

781
00:24:19,516 --> 00:24:25,783
decision we have to do, umm, but

782
00:24:23,916 --> 00:24:29,650
I think that -- I don't know if

783
00:24:25,883 --> 00:24:30,450
I'm ready to support the motion

784
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:32,116
brought forward by council

785
00:24:31,050 --> 00:24:33,283
member shaffer today because I

786
00:24:32,216 --> 00:24:34,483
need to have more information in

787
00:24:33,383 --> 00:24:35,716
front of me.  Given that staff

788
00:24:34,583 --> 00:24:37,516
has a different position on

789
00:24:35,816 --> 00:24:39,750
this.  So I would appreciate a

790
00:24:37,616 --> 00:24:42,216
delay so I can could have more

791
00:24:39,850 --> 00:24:43,416
time.  But if we don't have more

792
00:24:42,316 --> 00:24:44,616
time, then I guess I have to

793
00:24:43,516 --> 00:24:46,116
make a decision by what I have

794
00:24:44,683 --> 00:24:48,083
in front of me.

795
00:24:46,450 --> 00:24:50,483
» Council member chowdhury.

796
00:24:48,583 --> 00:24:53,383
» Hey, thank you, president

797
00:24:50,583 --> 00:24:57,000
payne.  I think it was wise for

798
00:24:53,550 --> 00:24:57,666
us to forward thisithout

799
00:24:57,100 --> 00:24:59,933
recommendation to the committee.

800
00:24:57,900 --> 00:25:01,233
I think one thing, and just my

801
00:25:00,033 --> 00:25:04,300
observation, as we take up

802
00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:05,800
historic preservation items.  Is

803
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,166
this council needs to develop

804
00:25:06,533 --> 00:25:09,500
its ability to discern these

805
00:25:08,266 --> 00:25:11,966
items when they're before us.

806
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,266
that's not to cast blame on any

807
00:25:12,066 --> 00:25:16,833
of us.  It's a very wonky type

808
00:25:15,233 --> 00:25:18,233
of item.  And I think it's a

809
00:25:16,933 --> 00:25:20,533
skill set that we need to grow

810
00:25:18,466 --> 00:25:24,666
in the way we have needed to

811
00:25:20,633 --> 00:25:25,533
grow on our quasi judicial

812
00:25:24,766 --> 00:25:29,733
items.

813
00:25:25,633 --> 00:25:32,733
I had a question for mr. Skill

814
00:25:29,833 --> 00:25:34,100
lek I can.  This is based in our

815
00:25:32,833 --> 00:25:35,633
process.  The way that we're

816
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,100
taking this eye up now where

817
00:25:35,733 --> 00:25:39,833
it's coming before us as a city

818
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,433
council and we're voting on it,

819
00:25:40,133 --> 00:25:43,900
is this related to the ordinance

820
00:25:41,533 --> 00:25:44,966
change we took up last term?

821
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,833
» Council member president

822
00:25:45,066 --> 00:25:52,666
payne, council member chowdhury:

823
00:25:47,933 --> 00:25:54,933
this is very similar to how

824
00:25:52,766 --> 00:25:56,666
how landmarks were considered.

825
00:25:55,033 --> 00:25:59,300
there's two parts to considering

826
00:25:56,766 --> 00:26:00,166
the ndmark.  The first is the

827
00:25:59,666 --> 00:26:01,600
nomination that's what happens

828
00:26:00,266 --> 00:26:02,933
in order to itiate the study

829
00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:03,833
process.  The second is the

830
00:26:03,033 --> 00:26:05,900
designation which is being

831
00:26:03,933 --> 00:26:08,000
considered now.  It comes with

832
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,033
the resolution formally

833
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:11,033
designating a property to become

834
00:26:09,133 --> 00:26:12,700
a landmark.  That process has

835
00:26:11,133 --> 00:26:15,133
changed in some ways.  But the

836
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,233
way landmarks is designated is

837
00:26:15,233 --> 00:26:17,500
very similar to how it was und

838
00:26:16,566 --> 00:26:23,566
the previous ordinance.

839
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:24,666
» If it was any -- any landmark

840
00:26:23,666 --> 00:26:26,833
preservation item in the future,

841
00:26:24,766 --> 00:26:29,233
or this one, if it were to move

842
00:26:26,933 --> 00:26:31,533
through, how doest then go to

843
00:26:29,666 --> 00:26:34,433
the hpc?  Is there a time in

844
00:26:31,633 --> 00:26:35,766
which it goes before them and

845
00:26:34,533 --> 00:26:36,833
they begin work.  I'm trying to

846
00:26:35,866 --> 00:26:39,500
better understand what comes out

847
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,200
of our vote here.  If it was an

848
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,200
affirmative vote, clearly, if it

849
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:45,333
was a vote in the negative, it

850
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:47,100
would just halt all together.

851
00:26:45,433 --> 00:26:47,300
but that would be helpful to

852
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,500
know.

853
00:26:47,466 --> 00:26:51,566
» Sure.  So if a landmark is

854
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:55,166
approved for designation, then

855
00:26:51,666 --> 00:26:56,466
that is essentially a decisn

856
00:26:55,266 --> 00:26:57,766
that lasts in perpetuity.  Any

857
00:26:56,566 --> 00:27:00,933
changes to the property would

858
00:26:57,866 --> 00:27:02,000
come forward for staff review or

859
00:27:01,033 --> 00:27:03,366
heritage preservation commission

860
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:05,133
review.  Depending on the scope

861
00:27:03,566 --> 00:27:07,333
of work being proposed.  We

862
00:27:05,233 --> 00:27:09,033
would review changes to make

863
00:27:07,433 --> 00:27:10,333
sure they meet the standards for

864
00:27:09,133 --> 00:27:11,266
rehabilitation.  Will are used

865
00:27:10,433 --> 00:27:13,033
throughout the country to

866
00:27:11,366 --> 00:27:13,633
evaluate changes to the historic

867
00:27:13,133 --> 00:27:15,233
properties.

868
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,766
if the landmark designation is

869
00:27:15,333 --> 00:27:20,633
denied and this is different

870
00:27:16,866 --> 00:27:22,700
from the pr previou

871
00:27:20,733 --> 00:27:23,833
ordinance.  There's no language

872
00:27:22,833 --> 00:27:26,200
to guide what could happen in

873
00:27:23,933 --> 00:27:28,366
the future.  So if it is denied

874
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:29,200
today, or if a decision is not

875
00:27:28,466 --> 00:27:30,666
made, there's a possibili that

876
00:27:29,366 --> 00:27:34,000
it could come back in three

877
00:27:30,766 --> 00:27:34,566
years to be reconsidered with

878
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,166
additional informaon.

879
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:37,866
» Okay.  And then how many

880
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,800
landmark designations have we

881
00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:42,066
taken in the last -- I'll say,

882
00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:44,100
like, two or three years.

883
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,766
» It's generally about one to

884
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,000
one and a half a year, on

885
00:27:45,866 --> 00:27:46,266
average.

886
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:48,500
» Right.

887
00:27:46,466 --> 00:27:49,633
» If we're doing averages.  We

888
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,933
bring forward for landmark

889
00:27:49,733 --> 00:27:51,733
properties.

890
00:27:50,233 --> 00:27:53,300
» Yeah.  Thank you.  I

891
00:27:52,166 --> 00:27:56,133
appreciate it.  I think the

892
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,033
place where I'm sitting, and I

893
00:27:56,233 --> 00:28:00,033
appreciate council member

894
00:27:57,133 --> 00:28:03,500
shaffer's work on this.

895
00:28:00,133 --> 00:28:04,900
absolutely.  I'll note, I feel

896
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,933
like -- let me know if I miss

897
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,066
anything.  I didn't get any

898
00:28:06,033 --> 00:28:08,266
information on the findings

899
00:28:07,233 --> 00:28:10,466
ahead of time.  Which I think

900
00:28:08,366 --> 00:28:12,566
would have been valuable to sit

901
00:28:10,566 --> 00:28:15,466
with ahead of this meeting.  I

902
00:28:12,666 --> 00:28:20,966
do think it's not atypical for

903
00:28:15,566 --> 00:28:22,633
us to take our time on historicd

904
00:28:21,066 --> 00:28:24,566
landmark designation

905
00:28:22,733 --> 00:28:26,133
discussions.  I think the john

906
00:28:24,666 --> 00:28:29,433
cook house was a gre example

907
00:28:26,933 --> 00:28:30,666
of needing to take time for

908
00:28:29,533 --> 00:28:33,000
discernment.  The thing that

909
00:28:30,766 --> 00:28:36,100
gives me pause is not being able

910
00:28:33,933 --> 00:28:37,300
to take time with the current

911
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,533
findings, not being able to have

912
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,600
enough time to dig in with staff

913
00:28:40,633 --> 00:28:45,866
and the fact that staff did put

914
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:47,300
this up for an approval under

915
00:28:45,966 --> 00:28:51,400
one criterion, which is

916
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:53,733
required.  I'm not opposed to

917
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:55,200
voting this down.  And I'm not

918
00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:58,866
oppod to voting this up.  But

919
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,733
I don't feel like we have the

920
00:28:58,966 --> 00:29:03,166
proper discernment on this item.

921
00:29:00,833 --> 00:29:07,466
if we're not going to delay, I

922
00:29:03,266 --> 00:29:08,500
don't feel comfortable -- one, I

923
00:29:07,566 --> 00:29:10,533
don't feel comfortable taking on

924
00:29:08,733 --> 00:29:11,966
a vote on this today.  I think

925
00:29:10,633 --> 00:29:13,466
it's my bottom line.  And I

926
00:29:12,066 --> 00:29:14,533
think based off that, I'll have

927
00:29:13,566 --> 00:29:16,333
to make a decision if we're

928
00:29:14,633 --> 00:29:17,366
going to vote on this.  But a

929
00:29:16,433 --> 00:29:19,066
delay, I think, would be

930
00:29:17,466 --> 00:29:20,200
appreciated.  I don't think it's

931
00:29:19,166 --> 00:29:21,900
atypical for us to take our time

932
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:24,066
on this.  Even if it's just one

933
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,400
cycle.  I think we got to bring

934
00:29:24,166 --> 00:29:27,700
up -- build our muscle on this

935
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:29,766
topic.  Because there are going

936
00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:31,366
to be more items like this that

937
00:29:29,866 --> 00:29:32,833
come before us.  And then under

938
00:29:31,466 --> 00:29:34,866
our ordinance change, now

939
00:29:32,933 --> 00:29:37,300
council members in partnership

940
00:29:34,966 --> 00:29:38,700
with community members can bring

941
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,433
up items for historic

942
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,933
preservation designation in the

943
00:29:40,533 --> 00:29:44,933
future.  And that's a new change

944
00:29:42,033 --> 00:29:45,800
that we also have to better

945
00:29:45,566 --> 00:29:47,866
understand.

946
00:29:45,933 --> 00:29:50,866
» Vice president osman.

947
00:29:48,133 --> 00:29:53,066
» Thank you, council president.

948
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:54,300
I want top remind the members,

949
00:29:53,166 --> 00:29:57,066
council members here.  This was

950
00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:58,066
a public hearing.  We had the

951
00:29:57,166 --> 00:29:59,900
opportunity to, of course, hear

952
00:29:58,166 --> 00:30:03,000
from the staff and, also, hear

953
00:30:00,133 --> 00:30:08,133
from the owner of the building.

954
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:10,700
t actually.  Had a wonderful

955
00:30:08,233 --> 00:30:13,033
presentation where he kind of

956
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:17,900
compared similar apartments out

957
00:30:13,133 --> 00:30:21,300
there in our city.  Same type of

958
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:25,200
apartments.  And I think maybe

959
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:27,300
all of them were not designated

960
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:29,200
and explained to us the

961
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,366
uniquenesses of this apartment.

962
00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:33,066
and he acknowledged that.  But I

963
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,500
also -- we had an opportunity to

964
00:30:33,166 --> 00:30:38,233
hear from him.  Both sides.  Not

965
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:42,100
just the commission here.  But

966
00:30:38,333 --> 00:30:44,566
also from the owner of the

967
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,800
apartments.  We had a lengthy

968
00:30:44,666 --> 00:30:49,266
conversation.  I don't see the

969
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:50,300
point of delaying.  We do have

970
00:30:49,366 --> 00:30:55,233
the staff to answer the

971
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:56,566
questions.  And we also have the

972
00:30:55,333 --> 00:30:58,033
dais here of the owner of the

973
00:30:56,666 --> 00:31:00,266
apartment.  If there's any

974
00:30:58,133 --> 00:31:02,033
questions for those folks that

975
00:31:00,966 --> 00:31:04,466
are actually know a lot about

976
00:31:02,133 --> 00:31:06,366
the item.  We can ask and I

977
00:31:04,566 --> 00:31:07,633
think we should make a decision

978
00:31:06,466 --> 00:31:09,933
and kind of move forward from

979
00:31:07,733 --> 00:31:10,066
here.  Thank you.

980
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,566
» 

981
00:31:10,366 --> 00:31:13,533
» Council member stevenson.

982
00:31:12,666 --> 00:31:16,000
» Okay.  I guess we're not

983
00:31:13,633 --> 00:31:17,100
going to get more time to get

984
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:18,166
staff to maybe change their

985
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,233
minds on this.  While you're

986
00:31:18,266 --> 00:31:24,966
here, can I ask you.  There's a

987
00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:26,733
case that's been brought upaboue

988
00:31:25,066 --> 00:31:28,400
best example of this te of

989
00:31:26,833 --> 00:31:30,966
architecture.  Do you see

990
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:32,566
validity in that case??

991
00:31:31,233 --> 00:31:35,366
» Council president payne.

992
00:31:32,666 --> 00:31:37,033
council member stevenson.

993
00:31:35,466 --> 00:31:38,633
staff, the way that the finding

994
00:31:37,133 --> 00:31:40,833
is written is that a property

995
00:31:38,733 --> 00:31:44,000
would embody that specific style

996
00:31:41,033 --> 00:31:45,466
of architecture.  So it we do

997
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:47,166
look at every sgle property

998
00:31:45,733 --> 00:31:49,533
that we have the availability to

999
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,866
look at and the studies to see

1000
00:31:49,633 --> 00:31:53,866
what the comparisons are.  And

1001
00:31:50,966 --> 00:31:55,000
deciding if a property merits

1002
00:31:53,966 --> 00:31:55,833
landmark status for being

1003
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:57,733
considered in this situation.

1004
00:31:55,933 --> 00:31:58,833
an example of a style of

1005
00:31:57,833 --> 00:32:02,166
architecture, through the staff

1006
00:31:58,933 --> 00:32:03,433
believed.  So it understanding

1007
00:32:02,266 --> 00:32:06,600
council member shaffer's

1008
00:32:03,533 --> 00:32:08,100
comments on it.  And there is

1009
00:32:06,700 --> 00:32:10,433
the ability to in the findings,

1010
00:32:08,366 --> 00:32:11,433
take into consideration any

1011
00:32:10,533 --> 00:32:12,966
public comment received.  And

1012
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:14,066
with public comment that's been

1013
00:32:13,066 --> 00:32:15,366
received.  Understand that

1014
00:32:14,166 --> 00:32:17,900
council member shaffer disagrees

1015
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:18,966
with staff's findings with the

1016
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,600
additional research provided by

1017
00:32:19,066 --> 00:32:24,700
the property owner.

1018
00:32:23,533 --> 00:32:31,300
» Okay.  I gue what I'm

1019
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:32,633
asking is, if this building

1020
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,766
would get destroyed, would the

1021
00:32:32,733 --> 00:32:36,000
city of minneapolis be losing

1022
00:32:34,866 --> 00:32:39,966
something special or others that

1023
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:41,633
are equal or better in this

1024
00:32:40,066 --> 00:32:42,866
style?

1025
00:32:41,933 --> 00:32:46,700
» Council member president

1026
00:32:42,966 --> 00:32:48,266
payne, council member stevenson.

1027
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,400
there's -- it's not, you know,

1028
00:32:48,366 --> 00:32:50,966
there's no -- we have no

1029
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:53,000
knowledge of it being destroyed

1030
00:32:51,066 --> 00:32:54,200
in the future.  Or plans to be

1031
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:55,433
demolished.  And we look at

1032
00:32:54,300 --> 00:33:04,100
properties as they exist and as

1033
00:32:56,700 --> 00:33:04,400
it exists.  Staff did reco

1034
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,433
recommend --

1035
00:33:04,533 --> 00:33:12,533
» Okay.  Thank you.  Is there

1036
00:33:09,533 --> 00:33:14,833
any further discussion on this

1037
00:33:12,633 --> 00:33:16,533
item?  Seeing none.  I'll ask

1038
00:33:14,933 --> 00:33:19,600
the clerk to call the roll on

1039
00:33:16,633 --> 00:33:20,266
the motion to deny historical

1040
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:22,633
designation.

1041
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:24,233
» Council member cvez.

1042
00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:28,400
» Can you --

1043
00:33:24,433 --> 00:33:29,866
» You want t to clarify the

1044
00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:31,066
vote destruction.  What was

1045
00:33:29,966 --> 00:33:31,733
stated is different than what we

1046
00:33:31,166 --> 00:33:33,266
have listed.

1047
00:33:32,033 --> 00:33:34,633
» The motion in front of you is

1048
00:33:33,366 --> 00:33:38,066
what was distributed by council

1049
00:33:35,233 --> 00:33:39,733
member shaffer, moved and

1050
00:33:38,166 --> 00:33:42,633
seconded, denying the local

1051
00:33:39,833 --> 00:33:43,833
historic designation for lake

1052
00:33:42,733 --> 00:33:49,266
shore arms and apartmentses.

1053
00:33:45,433 --> 00:33:53,666
apartments.>> thank you.  An ayd

1054
00:33:49,366 --> 00:33:56,166
deny?

1055
00:33:53,766 --> 00:33:58,066
» Council member chavez.

1056
00:33:56,466 --> 00:34:03,933
» I don't want to -- I don't

1057
00:33:58,166 --> 00:34:05,533
want to deny.

1058
00:34:04,033 --> 00:34:08,333
[ overlapping speakers ]

1059
00:34:05,733 --> 00:34:09,366
this is so confusing.  I'm

1060
00:34:08,433 --> 00:34:11,800
sorry.  Council member chavez.

1061
00:34:11,666 --> 00:34:13,400
» Okay.

1062
00:34:13,166 --> 00:34:16,833
» Microphone.

1063
00:34:13,533 --> 00:34:18,066
» If I don't want to deny the

1064
00:34:16,933 --> 00:34:21,033
preservation here, I need more

1065
00:34:18,166 --> 00:34:22,300
time, obviously.  Am I aye then?

1066
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:22,900
» You would be a nay.

1067
00:34:22,766 --> 00:34:24,866
» Okay.

1068
00:34:23,133 --> 00:34:26,366
» It's just the whole thing.

1069
00:34:24,966 --> 00:34:26,966
okay.  No.

1070
00:34:26,633 --> 00:34:29,000
» Okay.

1071
00:34:27,066 --> 00:34:31,100
» Clerk will call the roll.

1072
00:34:29,833 --> 00:34:31,800
» Council member cvez.

1073
00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:33,066
» No.

1074
00:34:32,533 --> 00:34:33,766
» Council member warre

1075
00:34:33,633 --> 00:34:35,033
» Aye.

1076
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,466
» Council member shaffer.

1077
00:34:35,450 --> 00:34:39,200
» Aye.

1078
00:34:37,933 --> 00:34:39,433
» Council member whiting.

1079
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:41,500
» Aye.

1080
00:34:40,133 --> 00:34:41,700
» Council member chowdhury.

1081
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,466
» No.

1082
00:34:42,566 --> 00:34:44,133
» Council member stevenson.

1083
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,700
» Aye.

1084
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,933
» Council member rainville.

1085
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,333
» Aye.

1086
00:34:47,166 --> 00:34:48,933
» Council member h vetaw.

1087
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,533
» Aye.

1088
00:34:49,133 --> 00:34:50,750
» Council member palmisano.

1089
00:34:50,633 --> 00:34:51,300
» Aye.

1090
00:34:50,866 --> 00:34:51,866
» Vice president osman.

1091
00:34:51,416 --> 00:34:53,500
» Aye.

1092
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,033
» President payne.

1093
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,266
» Aye.

1094
00:34:54,133 --> 00:34:56,466
» There are nine ayes and two

1095
00:34:56,366 --> 00:34:58,833
nays.

1096
00:34:56,566 --> 00:35:00,866
» That carries.  And that

1097
00:34:58,933 --> 00:35:02,300
completes the biz report.  The

1098
00:35:00,966 --> 00:35:03,633
next report is from our climate

1099
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,600
and infrastructure committee.

1100
00:35:03,733 --> 00:35:06,700
which will be presented by that

1101
00:35:06,266 --> 00:35:08,066
committee's chair, council

1102
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,333
member wonsley.  And before we

1103
00:35:08,166 --> 00:35:12,033
move on, would you like to be

1104
00:35:09,433 --> 00:35:13,166
recognized for your consent

1105
00:35:12,133 --> 00:35:15,300
items on the business agenda?

1106
00:35:13,333 --> 00:35:18,866
» Aye on consent and then we

1107
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,200
did not take up the historic

1108
00:35:18,966 --> 00:35:20,566
designation --

1109
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:22,100
» We just did.

1110
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,733
» I would like to be recorded

1111
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,866
an aye was affirmative in

1112
00:35:23,833 --> 00:35:27,166
supporting the historic

1113
00:35:24,966 --> 00:35:28,600
designation or nay.  Nay.

1114
00:35:28,466 --> 00:35:31,483
» Okay.

1115
00:35:29,066 --> 00:35:36,166
» Clerks, did you get that?

1116
00:35:32,333 --> 00:35:37,300
all right.  Now I'll recognize

1117
00:35:36,266 --> 00:35:38,166
council member wonsley to give

1118
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,400
the climate and infrastructure

1119
00:35:38,266 --> 00:35:39,700
report.

1120
00:35:38,533 --> 00:35:41,533
» Thank you.  I'm going to land

1121
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,000
it over to vice chair stevenson,

1122
00:35:41,633 --> 00:35:45,633
c who chaired that meeting.

1123
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,500
» Thank you, chair.  Thank you,

1124
00:35:46,366 --> 00:35:49,966
mr. President.  The climate and

1125
00:35:47,583 --> 00:35:51,500
infrastructure committee is nine

1126
00:35:50,066 --> 00:35:53,566
bringing forward nine items.

1127
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,466
one considering the lyndale

1128
00:35:53,666 --> 00:35:56,666
avenue reconstruction project.

1129
00:35:54,566 --> 00:35:59,133
two resolution for a gift

1130
00:35:56,766 --> 00:36:00,400
acceptance.  Three a resolution

1131
00:35:59,233 --> 00:36:00,900
for gift acceptance for

1132
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:02,400
brookings transportation

1133
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,500
initiative.  Four resolution for

1134
00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:06,066
a gi acceptance for

1135
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,600
minneapolis foundation.  Five

1136
00:36:06,166 --> 00:36:08,833
resolutions for support for the

1137
00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:10,700
minnesota department of

1138
00:36:08,933 --> 00:36:14,900
transportation highway 280

1139
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:16,633
project.  Six land sale wedge

1140
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,466
point park to minneapolis park

1141
00:36:16,733 --> 00:36:20,600
and recreation board.  Seven

1142
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,100
authorizing grant applications

1143
00:36:21,033 --> 00:36:25,500
to minnesota department of

1144
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,433
transportation.  For 2026

1145
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,533
federal highway safety

1146
00:36:26,533 --> 00:36:29,500
improvement program.  Eight

1147
00:36:27,633 --> 00:36:30,733
accepting the low bid for west

1148
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,766
river road phase ii project.

1149
00:36:30,833 --> 00:36:38,266
nine approving a legislative

1150
00:36:32,866 --> 00:36:41,166
directive proposed closure of

1151
00:36:38,366 --> 00:36:42,700
hennepin energy recovery center.

1152
00:36:41,266 --> 00:36:43,233
I'll move approval the report

1153
00:36:42,833 --> 00:36:45,233
cept for one.

1154
00:36:43,833 --> 00:36:47,466
» Moved approval of the report,

1155
00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:49,100
minus item number one.  Is there

1156
00:36:47,566 --> 00:36:50,833
any discussion on the remainder

1157
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:51,133
of the report?  Council member

1158
00:36:50,933 --> 00:36:53,000
shaffer.

1159
00:36:51,233 --> 00:36:54,666
» Yeah.  I wanted to stop a

1160
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:55,800
moment and pause for the little

1161
00:36:54,766 --> 00:36:58,566
victories that we are helping

1162
00:36:56,233 --> 00:37:00,100
for the park board.  In the

1163
00:36:58,666 --> 00:37:02,900
selling of the wedge point park

1164
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,800
parcels in the lowry hill

1165
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,066
history neighborhood.  Something

1166
00:37:03,900 --> 00:37:06,766
I've been tracking for the last

1167
00:37:05,166 --> 00:37:08,333
four years.  I wanted to

1168
00:37:06,866 --> 00:37:09,766
acknowledge and thank city staff

1169
00:37:08,433 --> 00:37:12,233
for their work in seeing this

1170
00:37:09,866 --> 00:37:14,633
through to completion.  And I'm

1171
00:37:12,333 --> 00:37:16,033
happy for the neighborhood.  And

1172
00:37:14,733 --> 00:37:17,600
I know couil member chughtai

1173
00:37:16,133 --> 00:37:19,166
would share those same

1174
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:21,400
sentiments, if she were here.

1175
00:37:19,266 --> 00:37:22,266
this is a win for the

1176
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:24,600
neighborhood.

1177
00:37:22,366 --> 00:37:26,300
» Council member stevenson.

1178
00:37:24,766 --> 00:37:28,533
» Sorry.  I think I was trying

1179
00:37:26,566 --> 00:37:29,700
to get in first in line for the

1180
00:37:28,633 --> 00:37:32,833
discussion on the next item.

1181
00:37:29,966 --> 00:37:33,733
» Got you.  Seeing no one else

1182
00:37:32,933 --> 00:37:36,066
left in queue, I'll ask the

1183
00:37:33,833 --> 00:37:38,666
clerk to call the roll on

1184
00:37:36,166 --> 00:37:40,066
climate and infrastructure

1185
00:37:38,766 --> 00:37:43,333
report minus item one.

1186
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,033
» Council member chavez.

1187
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:45,400
» Aye.

1188
00:37:44,466 --> 00:37:45,633
» Council member warren.

1189
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:46,800
» Aye.

1190
00:37:46,033 --> 00:37:47,133
» Council member shaffer.

1191
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,166
» Aye.

1192
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,700
» Council member whiting.

1193
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,500
aye.

1194
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,833
» Council member chowdhury.

1195
00:37:50,633 --> 00:37:51,866
» Aye

1196
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:52,266
» Council member stevenson.

1197
00:37:52,133 --> 00:37:53,333
» Aye.

1198
00:37:52,566 --> 00:37:53,866
» Council member rainville.

1199
00:37:53,733 --> 00:37:54,600
» Aye.

1200
00:37:54,066 --> 00:37:55,166
» Council member vetaw.

1201
00:37:55,033 --> 00:37:56,233
» Aye.

1202
00:37:55,533 --> 00:37:57,400
» Council member palmisano.

1203
00:37:56,500 --> 00:38:00,600
» Aye.

1204
00:37:57,500 --> 00:38:01,200
» Council member wonsley items

1205
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:03,566
two through nine.

1206
00:38:03,016 --> 00:38:05,100
» Aye.

1207
00:38:03,866 --> 00:38:05,333
» Vice president osman.

1208
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:05,866
» Aye.

1209
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:06,666
» President payne.

1210
00:38:06,533 --> 00:38:08,300
» Aye.

1211
00:38:07,066 --> 00:38:10,933
» There are 12 ayes.

1212
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:12,900
» Those items carry.  Next

1213
00:38:11,033 --> 00:38:14,033
we'll take up item number one,

1214
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,300
and I'll recognize council

1215
00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:21,400
member stevenson.

1216
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:25,900
» Thank you.  I'm going to move

1217
00:38:23,433 --> 00:38:30,033
to amend this item.  The

1218
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:33,900
amendment is in front of you.

1219
00:38:30,133 --> 00:38:36,800
it's c & I number one by

1220
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:40,300
stevenson.  These amendments

1221
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:43,766
have been done in close

1222
00:38:40,833 --> 00:38:47,233
consideration with director

1223
00:38:44,066 --> 00:38:49,866
sexton, and ward 10 office and

1224
00:38:47,333 --> 00:38:53,566
ward 7 office, council member

1225
00:38:49,966 --> 00:38:57,066
shaffer's.  So we have done our

1226
00:38:53,666 --> 00:39:00,300
best to take all these voices

1227
00:38:57,166 --> 00:39:06,666
into account.  And make sure

1228
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:08,433
that this approval of the

1229
00:39:06,883 --> 00:39:10,100
municipal consent goes through

1230
00:39:08,533 --> 00:39:12,466
smoothly.  And is taking

1231
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,800
everyone's voice into account.

1232
00:39:12,566 --> 00:39:17,766
I'll note that as folks can see,

1233
00:39:16,433 --> 00:39:19,200
livable lyndale is her  and

1234
00:39:17,850 --> 00:39:21,966
they have delivered to us

1235
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:24,933
literally thousands of postcards

1236
00:39:22,066 --> 00:39:27,733
in support of this plan., and

1237
00:39:25,033 --> 00:39:29,233
more in terms of safety and

1238
00:39:27,833 --> 00:39:32,933
pedestrian and bike and bus

1239
00:39:29,766 --> 00:39:35,766
improvements.  And we have heard

1240
00:39:33,033 --> 00:39:36,700
from probably hundreds of folks,

1241
00:39:35,866 --> 00:39:39,500
manyrom the business

1242
00:39:37,266 --> 00:39:44,366
community, who are against.  And

1243
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,733
so to -- given there's large

1244
00:39:44,466 --> 00:39:48,166
contestation over this item, I

1245
00:39:45,833 --> 00:39:51,066
think it is right that we are

1246
00:39:48,266 --> 00:39:52,800
striking a comprise.  This

1247
00:39:51,166 --> 00:39:54,833
comprise does not get everything

1248
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:57,633
that I want, by any means.  And

1249
00:39:54,933 --> 00:39:59,266
this comprise does not give

1250
00:39:57,733 --> 00:40:01,400
others who may disagree with me

1251
00:39:59,366 --> 00:40:04,100
everything they want, by any

1252
00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:06,033
means at all.  What it does do,

1253
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,133
this is approving of a design

1254
00:40:06,133 --> 00:40:09,733
and the way we have written our

1255
00:40:08,233 --> 00:40:12,000
resolution is approving a

1256
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,766
resolution that has really taken

1257
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:15,066
everybody's voice int account.

1258
00:40:13,866 --> 00:40:18,033
we have listened and we have

1259
00:40:15,166 --> 00:40:21,333
listened and we have listened.

1260
00:40:18,366 --> 00:40:22,566
and given that this street is

1261
00:40:21,433 --> 00:40:24,166
over 90 years old, it's time to

1262
00:40:22,666 --> 00:40:25,533
be rebuilt.  And this is the

1263
00:40:24,266 --> 00:40:28,500
comprise that is the right

1264
00:40:25,633 --> 00:40:29,566
comprise to do that.

1265
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,633
construction is tiflt for

1266
00:40:30,766 --> 00:40:32,466
businesses.  And I believe we'll

1267
00:40:31,733 --> 00:40:35,133
be considering another amendment

1268
00:40:32,566 --> 00:40:36,500
soon to help alleviate that

1269
00:40:35,233 --> 00:40:38,166
somewhat.  I think this body and

1270
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,833
maybe the county and state

1271
00:40:38,266 --> 00:40:41,933
should consider different ways

1272
00:40:39,933 --> 00:40:43,566
to support businesses through

1273
00:40:42,033 --> 00:40:47,500
construction. Ut I would ask

1274
00:40:43,666 --> 00:40:49,733
my colleagues to please approve

1275
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,533
this.  Because this is the

1276
00:40:49,833 --> 00:40:52,066
compromise I think is right and

1277
00:40:50,833 --> 00:40:56,866
I think works for everybody.

1278
00:40:52,166 --> 00:40:57,733
and I'm going to quick read my

1279
00:40:56,966 --> 00:40:58,866
amendments.  And I'm going to

1280
00:40:57,833 --> 00:41:00,933
read all the amendments that

1281
00:40:58,966 --> 00:41:02,700
have happened in the last two

1282
00:41:01,033 --> 00:41:05,033
weeks.  Some of them mine some

1283
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,933
of them not.

1284
00:41:05,133 --> 00:41:09,133
so, one, is prioritize the

1285
00:41:07,033 --> 00:41:10,800
preservation of existing healthy

1286
00:41:09,233 --> 00:41:14,266
mature trees along lyndale

1287
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:17,066
avenue.  The second one is we

1288
00:41:14,366 --> 00:41:20,033
are striking with consent from

1289
00:41:17,166 --> 00:41:21,400
director sexton design

1290
00:41:20,133 --> 00:41:23,266
modifications to the proposed

1291
00:41:21,833 --> 00:41:24,466
medians to ensure driveway

1292
00:41:23,366 --> 00:41:26,733
access and business operational

1293
00:41:24,566 --> 00:41:27,500
needs.  This is something that

1294
00:41:26,833 --> 00:41:29,266
he's talked about they're going

1295
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,733
to do anyways.  To make sure

1296
00:41:29,366 --> 00:41:34,466
that deliveries can happen in a

1297
00:41:31,833 --> 00:41:38,366
safe matter.  Number three, work

1298
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,200
with city staff and c

1299
00:41:38,466 --> 00:41:41,300
corridor stakeholders to

1300
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:43,800
minimize disruption to

1301
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,800
businesses.  And ensures access

1302
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:47,833
during construction to the

1303
00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:50,000
extent possible.  And then

1304
00:41:47,933 --> 00:41:51,600
lastly, or almost lastly,

1305
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:54,633
prioritize shortening the

1306
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:56,516
alternate duration of project

1307
00:41:54,733 --> 00:41:57,966
may include extended

1308
00:41:56,633 --> 00:41:59,166
construction work hours as

1309
00:41:58,066 --> 00:42:02,433
permitted by the minneapolis

1310
00:41:59,266 --> 00:42:04,200
health department.  And then

1311
00:42:02,516 --> 00:42:05,200
later, whereas, the city of

1312
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:06,766
minneapolis supports the county

1313
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:08,233
and accessing the federal funds

1314
00:42:06,866 --> 00:42:10,133
from the project and timeline

1315
00:42:08,333 --> 00:42:13,666
that is required to get the

1316
00:42:10,233 --> 00:42:17,833
funds.  So I will move this

1317
00:42:13,766 --> 00:42:18,483
amendment for approval.

1318
00:42:17,933 --> 00:42:20,933
» Second.

1319
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,966
» Council member stevenson has

1320
00:42:21,033 --> 00:42:25,966
moved att item one for

1321
00:42:24,066 --> 00:42:28,500
approval as amended.  While we

1322
00:42:26,066 --> 00:42:29,700
can take the amendments up.  So

1323
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,600
council member stevenson has

1324
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,333
moved to amend item number one,

1325
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:34,333
that's been seconded.  And I'll

1326
00:42:33,433 --> 00:42:34,633
recognize council member

1327
00:42:34,433 --> 00:42:36,366
shaffer.

1328
00:42:34,733 --> 00:42:37,866
» Thank you, president payne.

1329
00:42:36,466 --> 00:42:39,500
umm, I'll just share my thoughts

1330
00:42:37,966 --> 00:42:41,200
here.  First of all, number one,

1331
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,966
I appreciate the discussion and

1332
00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:44,100
problem solving that has been

1333
00:42:43,066 --> 00:42:46,000
happening both in my dialogue

1334
00:42:44,366 --> 00:42:47,366
with the ward 10 office and

1335
00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:50,266
council member stevenson in t

1336
00:42:47,466 --> 00:42:51,966
last few days. Really, throwing

1337
00:42:50,366 --> 00:42:53,500
out the idea of trying to get

1338
00:42:52,066 --> 00:42:55,100
some language for extended

1339
00:42:53,833 --> 00:42:56,900
hours, actually, specified in

1340
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,566
some of the amendments, which

1341
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,400
did not happen.  Umm, but I want

1342
00:42:59,666 --> 00:43:02,966
to say that I really appreciate

1343
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:05,933
all the feedback that I've been

1344
00:43:03,066 --> 00:43:08,700
given on this topic.  And really

1345
00:43:06,033 --> 00:43:09,733
trying to see and recognize the

1346
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,766
effort that people are making to

1347
00:43:09,833 --> 00:43:14,966
try to bridge the divide.  That

1348
00:43:12,866 --> 00:43:16,400
being said, I simply cannot

1349
00:43:15,066 --> 00:43:17,566
support the proposed design

1350
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:20,000
concept due to the impact on our

1351
00:43:17,666 --> 00:43:21,900
small businesses.  The business

1352
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:24,500
community has opposed the plan

1353
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,166
at every turn for specific and

1354
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,300
good reasons.  With the

1355
00:43:26,266 --> 00:43:30,466
experience of hennepin avenue

1356
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,533
fresh in their minds.  My ward 7

1357
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,233
residents oppose it for some of

1358
00:43:31,633 --> 00:43:35,266
the same reasons they opposed

1359
00:43:34,333 --> 00:43:37,700
hennepin avenue.  They didn't

1360
00:43:35,366 --> 00:43:39,533
like the design there when it

1361
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,666
was first proposed.  And don't

1362
00:43:39,633 --> 00:43:42,133
like the reality now it's

1363
00:43:40,766 --> 00:43:45,833
finished.  And they don't want

1364
00:43:42,233 --> 00:43:47,433
to see the same mistakes happen

1365
00:43:45,916 --> 00:43:48,866
on lyndale.  What are the

1366
00:43:47,533 --> 00:43:50,166
problems?  From this

1367
00:43:48,966 --> 00:43:52,700
perspective, here are a few

1368
00:43:50,333 --> 00:43:53,966
examples: there's been no

1369
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,966
meaningful specific protections

1370
00:43:54,066 --> 00:44:01,933
built in for the lyndale

1371
00:43:56,066 --> 00:44:03,700
businesses.  While rudimentary

1372
00:44:02,016 --> 00:44:05,266
physical access will be

1373
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,066
maintained, there's no

1374
00:44:05,366 --> 00:44:10,100
meaningful financial support for

1375
00:44:06,166 --> 00:44:10,900
the customers.  That proved

1376
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,233
devastating to the businesses

1377
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,733
along hennepin.  There's every

1378
00:44:12,333 --> 00:44:15,433
reason to believe the dynamic

1379
00:44:13,833 --> 00:44:17,733
will repeat itself on lyndale.

1380
00:44:15,533 --> 00:44:21,500
this isn't just for a week or a

1381
00:44:17,833 --> 00:44:22,433
month.  It's two to three years.

1382
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,833
we can anticipate some of the

1383
00:44:22,533 --> 00:44:25,766
businesses that currently exist

1384
00:44:24,366 --> 00:44:28,666
on lyndale will not be there

1385
00:44:25,866 --> 00:44:30,633
when the project is over.

1386
00:44:28,766 --> 00:44:31,666
secondly, as the current council

1387
00:44:30,733 --> 00:44:33,033
member representative on the

1388
00:44:31,766 --> 00:44:34,566
minneapolis tree advisory

1389
00:44:33,133 --> 00:44:35,966
committee, I stand with the

1390
00:44:34,666 --> 00:44:38,266
committee in their opposition to

1391
00:44:36,066 --> 00:44:39,800
the plan due to tree removal

1392
00:44:38,366 --> 00:44:41,066
concerns.  I was a park

1393
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:43,000
exhibitioner during the original

1394
00:44:41,166 --> 00:44:45,766
hennepin avenue reconstruction

1395
00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:46,700
where designs plan to remove

1396
00:44:45,866 --> 00:44:49,600
approximately 120 plus trees.

1397
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,033
and was able to work with

1398
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:52,733
community, expert staff at the

1399
00:44:51,133 --> 00:44:54,966
park board, and city and county

1400
00:44:52,833 --> 00:44:57,233
and help save approximately 60

1401
00:44:55,066 --> 00:45:00,233
mature trees in the project.

1402
00:44:57,333 --> 00:45:02,000
the frequency with which public

1403
00:45:00,333 --> 00:45:04,400
infrastructure projects do the

1404
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,000
continual removal and replanting

1405
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:07,833
cycle is really part of the

1406
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:10,333
problem that we are facing in

1407
00:45:07,933 --> 00:45:13,433
aging our urban canopy and

1408
00:45:10,433 --> 00:45:15,733
creating a greater carbon

1409
00:45:13,533 --> 00:45:17,000
footprint.  Once this project is

1410
00:45:15,833 --> 00:45:18,933
over, a different set of

1411
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:21,433
problems will take over.  As

1412
00:45:19,216 --> 00:45:22,500
with hennepin, travel will be

1413
00:45:21,533 --> 00:45:24,866
largely constrained to one lane

1414
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:29,000
in each direction with left-hand

1415
00:45:24,966 --> 00:45:31,266
side turns tiflt to impossible.

1416
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:32,633
commercial unloading will be

1417
00:45:31,366 --> 00:45:33,800
impractical in some locations.

1418
00:45:32,733 --> 00:45:35,766
parking would become more

1419
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:37,066
limited.  And parking lanes

1420
00:45:35,866 --> 00:45:39,466
would become more narrow

1421
00:45:37,166 --> 00:45:42,166
reverting back to the 9 feet we

1422
00:45:39,566 --> 00:45:43,700
had in the old four-lane

1423
00:45:42,966 --> 00:45:45,333
configuration.  Which actually

1424
00:45:44,033 --> 00:45:52,500
resulted in the they typicality

1425
00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:53,800
they tfatality.

1426
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,266
it will face continued head

1427
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,400
winds from the end product.

1428
00:45:55,366 --> 00:45:59,666
this city, in the budget

1429
00:45:57,500 --> 00:46:01,700
environment currently, can't

1430
00:45:59,766 --> 00:46:05,466
afford to give up the economic

1431
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:06,833
drivers that we do have.

1432
00:46:05,633 --> 00:46:08,433
lastly, the completed hennepin

1433
00:46:06,933 --> 00:46:10,500
avenue has not resulted in a

1434
00:46:08,533 --> 00:46:12,766
renaissance yet for our area or

1435
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,133
street.  Much the contrary.  We

1436
00:46:12,866 --> 00:46:17,100
still have vacant store fronts,

1437
00:46:15,233 --> 00:46:19,333
sidewalks aren't busy, traffic

1438
00:46:17,466 --> 00:46:21,700
is backed up creating much

1439
00:46:19,433 --> 00:46:23,100
idolling in the corridor, and

1440
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,033
our office is currently hearing

1441
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,100
reports of residential

1442
00:46:24,133 --> 00:46:26,800
neighborhoods experiencing

1443
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,600
greater traffic concerns as

1444
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:30,066
folks are avoiding hennepin

1445
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:32,566
coming from the west and south

1446
00:46:30,166 --> 00:46:35,500
and finding alternative routes

1447
00:46:32,666 --> 00:46:36,333
other than hennepin avenue.

1448
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,300
unfortunately, the residential

1449
00:46:36,433 --> 00:46:39,716
streets around lyndale are even

1450
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,466
narrower than around hennepin.

1451
00:46:39,833 --> 00:46:43,866
and may experience the same

1452
00:46:42,566 --> 00:46:45,266
outcome.  This was a set of

1453
00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:49,300
problems predicted by many

1454
00:46:45,566 --> 00:46:51,700
before the hennepin redo.

1455
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,433
peoples' lived experience after

1456
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,633
completion has bourn it out.

1457
00:46:53,533 --> 00:46:57,200
and I can't support the strategy

1458
00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:59,533
of making the same choices and

1459
00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:01,800
hoping for a different result.

1460
00:46:59,633 --> 00:47:05,200
this is going to be hennepin

1461
00:47:02,300 --> 00:47:05,933
part ii.  My constituents are

1462
00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:07,800
overwhelmingly opposed, the

1463
00:47:06,266 --> 00:47:09,200
business community is

1464
00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:11,166
overwhelmingly opposed, and I

1465
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:14,000
feel obligated to support them.

1466
00:47:11,266 --> 00:47:14,966
with my vote, giving the clear

1467
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:16,066
community preference in ward

1468
00:47:15,066 --> 00:47:16,266
seven.  Thank you for your

1469
00:47:16,166 --> 00:47:18,866
time.

1470
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,133
» Vice president osman.

1471
00:47:19,433 --> 00:47:22,633
» Mm, thank you.  I want to

1472
00:47:21,233 --> 00:47:25,400
know if the public works staff

1473
00:47:22,733 --> 00:47:32,466
is here to answer some

1474
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:34,033
questions.  Don't see them.  I,

1475
00:47:32,566 --> 00:47:35,933
umm, I think the points council

1476
00:47:34,133 --> 00:47:37,600
member shaffer made is very

1477
00:47:36,033 --> 00:47:41,533
valid.  The businesses do

1478
00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:44,933
struggle a lot for

1479
00:47:41,633 --> 00:47:47,433
constructions.  They already are

1480
00:47:46,033 --> 00:47:49,833
difficult surviving what's been

1481
00:47:47,533 --> 00:47:52,900
happening.  The covid, you know,

1482
00:47:49,933 --> 00:47:55,733
the I.c.e. Situation.  Oh, I see

1483
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,800
the director here.  Welcome,

1484
00:47:55,833 --> 00:47:59,533
sir.  So the challenge is there

1485
00:47:57,900 --> 00:48:01,433
for the business community.  And

1486
00:47:59,633 --> 00:48:03,266
as we got to have a better plan

1487
00:48:01,533 --> 00:48:05,366
addressing the businesses that

1488
00:48:03,366 --> 00:48:07,366
our small businesses that are

1489
00:48:05,450 --> 00:48:09,600
actually might not come back on

1490
00:48:07,466 --> 00:48:12,233
where they are having businesses

1491
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:16,966
now.  Which is lyndale.  So the

1492
00:48:12,333 --> 00:48:18,333
project is, umm, has ef

1493
00:48:17,066 --> 00:48:20,000
affect on small businesses.

1494
00:48:18,433 --> 00:48:21,833
that's a fact.  Yes, the road is

1495
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:24,100
over 70 years old.  I think for

1496
00:48:21,933 --> 00:48:26,033
having a better design, this is

1497
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,833
better for the future and for

1498
00:48:26,133 --> 00:48:29,800
the future for our city.  For

1499
00:48:28,933 --> 00:48:33,933
safety wise, for -- it's good

1500
00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:35,233
toking a knto

1501
00:48:34,033 --> 00:48:36,900
acknowledge we can say no to

1502
00:48:35,333 --> 00:48:40,166
that.  I want to make it clear

1503
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,233
what we're hearing from people,

1504
00:48:40,366 --> 00:48:42,566
I want people to understand it's

1505
00:48:41,333 --> 00:48:44,700
not a city project.  It's a

1506
00:48:42,666 --> 00:48:48,833
county project.  So my question

1507
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:50,400
to the direc directer is,

1508
00:48:48,933 --> 00:48:52,300
if we voted down on the plan.

1509
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:53,900
does it mean the project stops

1510
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,333
and no longer going to continue?

1511
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,800
or does it just the county will

1512
00:48:55,433 --> 00:49:03,166
just continue with their plan?

1513
00:49:00,700 --> 00:49:05,583
» Yeah.  Through the chair,

1514
00:49:03,266 --> 00:49:06,700
council vice president.  Tim

1515
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:08,300
sexton.  Our current

1516
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,966
interpretation based on the city

1517
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,100
attorneys.  And I'll look to

1518
00:49:10,066 --> 00:49:13,033
them, maybe, first, if they

1519
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,266
would like to respond.  But I

1520
00:49:13,133 --> 00:49:16,566
can share my understanding of

1521
00:49:15,366 --> 00:49:19,466
the legal interpretation thus

1522
00:49:16,666 --> 00:49:20,700
far.  If we do not approve thi

1523
00:49:19,566 --> 00:49:22,533
the countyannot proceed with

1524
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,766
the work.  They do need our

1525
00:49:22,633 --> 00:49:25,566
permission to do the work within

1526
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,200
the city.

1527
00:49:25,766 --> 00:49:30,566
» Madam city attorney?

1528
00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:30,766
» That is my understanding, as

1529
00:49:30,666 --> 00:49:32,333
well.

1530
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:33,800
» Okay.

1531
00:49:32,433 --> 00:49:36,700
» I asked the question because

1532
00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:38,033
I'm trying to remember the whole

1533
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,233
blue line situation.  They also

1534
00:49:38,133 --> 00:49:40,733
came for the train.  The

1535
00:49:40,333 --> 00:49:42,666
consent

1536
00:49:40,833 --> 00:49:45,966
and what I heard back then was

1537
00:49:42,766 --> 00:49:47,633
if we voted down, they still

1538
00:49:46,266 --> 00:49:49,600
will continue to have the train

1539
00:49:47,733 --> 00:49:50,800
move forward.  So it's

1540
00:49:49,700 --> 00:49:54,600
different.  Different

1541
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:56,866
interpretation the way I see it.

1542
00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:58,566
but ... You don't have to

1543
00:49:56,966 --> 00:50:01,766
comment.  That kind of changed

1544
00:49:58,666 --> 00:50:05,633
things for me.  You know, and I

1545
00:50:01,866 --> 00:50:09,300
really want to make sure that we

1546
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,766
are not voting for this until we

1547
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,700
have a better plan for

1548
00:50:10,866 --> 00:50:13,533
businesses.  And I don't think

1549
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:16,733
we have any plan.  Can you talk

1550
00:50:13,633 --> 00:50:19,200
about if there's any plan.  Is

1551
00:50:16,833 --> 00:50:22,866
there a recovery way of helping

1552
00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:26,200
the businesses?  And I don't

1553
00:50:22,966 --> 00:50:27,050
think we are talking about that.

1554
00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:30,500
so .. I'm going to have to

1555
00:50:27,166 --> 00:50:31,433
think about this.  I do

1556
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,000
appreciate the money that's

1557
00:50:31,533 --> 00:50:36,600
coming into our city and have

1558
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:37,433
the safe roads bike lane and all

1559
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:39,366
the great things.  We have to

1560
00:50:37,533 --> 00:50:41,200
think about the small businesses

1561
00:50:39,466 --> 00:50:42,666
and think about how it will

1562
00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:45,366
affect them.  And my question is

1563
00:50:42,766 --> 00:50:47,766
this, if we move forward with

1564
00:50:46,233 --> 00:50:49,700
this project, also, I'd like to

1565
00:50:47,866 --> 00:50:51,300
see is there a way to get the

1566
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,733
cross section done without

1567
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,066
closing the street?  I know they

1568
00:50:52,933 --> 00:50:56,733
can.  There's always a creative

1569
00:50:54,166 --> 00:50:59,200
way of getting things done.

1570
00:50:56,833 --> 00:50:59,366
I'll leave it there.  Thank

1571
00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:02,066
you.

1572
00:50:59,466 --> 00:51:05,666
» Council member chowdhury.

1573
00:51:02,866 --> 00:51:08,400
» Thank you, president payne.

1574
00:51:05,766 --> 00:51:11,933
I just wanted to take some time

1575
00:51:08,833 --> 00:51:13,700
to speak in favor of the

1576
00:51:12,033 --> 00:51:16,333
resolution of support for

1577
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,333
lyndale avenue reconstruction.

1578
00:51:16,633 --> 00:51:20,433
I think a vote for this is a

1579
00:51:18,433 --> 00:51:22,266
vote for progress for our city.

1580
00:51:20,533 --> 00:51:24,600
one thing that I just want to

1581
00:51:22,366 --> 00:51:25,600
really hammer home for my

1582
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:29,666
colleagues and anyone listening

1583
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:31,166
in the community is this is

1584
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:35,366
10year-old street.  This is

1585
00:51:31,266 --> 00:51:36,900
100 years old and strts have

1586
00:51:35,466 --> 00:51:39,166
an end of life.  There is a

1587
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,866
point in which they are no

1588
00:51:39,266 --> 00:51:44,333
longer working a for the

1589
00:51:41,966 --> 00:51:46,133
community.  And our communities

1590
00:51:44,433 --> 00:51:47,433
deserve nice things.  And

1591
00:51:46,233 --> 00:51:49,066
lyndale is far due for

1592
00:51:47,533 --> 00:51:50,800
reconstruction.  And

1593
00:51:49,166 --> 00:51:54,166
reconstruction of our streets is

1594
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,800
a fact of life in a busy city

1595
00:51:54,266 --> 00:51:58,233
like the city of minneapolis.

1596
00:51:55,900 --> 00:51:59,533
especially lyndale avenue, which

1597
00:51:58,333 --> 00:52:01,766
has thousands of people using

1598
00:51:59,633 --> 00:52:03,100
it. Housands and thousands of

1599
00:52:01,866 --> 00:52:05,900
people using it each and every

1600
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,366
day.  I also want to hammer home

1601
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,400
whether we have bike lanes or no

1602
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,966
bike lanes or any of the

1603
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:13,833
amenities we're providing for

1604
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:17,400
pedestrians.  If we took all

1605
00:52:13,933 --> 00:52:18,566
that off, that same impact would

1606
00:52:17,500 --> 00:52:19,600
still happen with construction

1607
00:52:18,666 --> 00:52:22,933
for the improvemes that are

1608
00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:24,766
needed in the streets. O what

1609
00:52:23,033 --> 00:52:33,833
we're voting for is not just for

1610
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:36,300
2028 or 2029.  It's for 2128.  I

1611
00:52:33,933 --> 00:52:37,900
think it gives us a valuable

1612
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,066
perspective.  I also want to

1613
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,666
speak to the fact tt I hear

1614
00:52:40,366 --> 00:52:44,866
from residents and constituents

1615
00:52:42,866 --> 00:52:46,666
in my own ward that travel to

1616
00:52:44,966 --> 00:52:48,433
lyndale avenue from residents

1617
00:52:46,766 --> 00:52:50,066
and constituents that are on

1618
00:52:48,533 --> 00:52:53,866
lyndale avee, as someone that

1619
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:55,500
ved off of ridgewood off of

1620
00:52:53,966 --> 00:52:57,233
lyndale in my time as a resident

1621
00:52:55,700 --> 00:53:00,466
in the city of minneapolis.

1622
00:52:57,333 --> 00:53:02,733
this is a very hostile, very

1623
00:53:00,566 --> 00:53:05,066
hostile street for all of those

1624
00:53:02,833 --> 00:53:08,333
that experience walking, biking,

1625
00:53:05,166 --> 00:53:11,800
driving, using transit on this

1626
00:53:08,433 --> 00:53:13,433
street.  Lynn lake is the

1627
00:53:11,900 --> 00:53:17,133
highest injury intersection in

1628
00:53:13,533 --> 00:53:19,233
the city of minneapolis.  We

1629
00:53:17,233 --> 00:53:20,733
have a responsibility, as local

1630
00:53:19,333 --> 00:53:22,500
government, to our constituents

1631
00:53:20,833 --> 00:53:25,366
and our communities to make

1632
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,400
updates to ensure that,: one,

1633
00:53:25,466 --> 00:53:27,500
we're addressing aging

1634
00:53:26,500 --> 00:53:28,600
infrastructure.  Two, we're

1635
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,166
making sure our streets are

1636
00:53:28,700 --> 00:53:33,866
welcoming for all and people can

1637
00:53:30,266 --> 00:53:35,433
get around.  We have

1638
00:53:33,966 --> 00:53:37,200
responsibility to ensure that we

1639
00:53:35,533 --> 00:53:40,233
are reducing crashes and saving

1640
00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:42,233
lives.  And what I'm excited

1641
00:53:40,333 --> 00:53:43,833
about is seeing a project before

1642
00:53:42,833 --> 00:53:45,833
us that really brings into the

1643
00:53:43,933 --> 00:53:47,700
fold the considerations of those

1644
00:53:45,933 --> 00:53:49,800
that bike, those that use

1645
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,233
transit, and, also, improvents

1646
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:53,966
that will just make it a better

1647
00:53:52,333 --> 00:53:55,900
and safer place for people to

1648
00:53:54,066 --> 00:53:58,600
drive, as well as if that's what

1649
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,866
they choose.  I want to

1650
00:53:58,700 --> 00:54:01,033
acknowledge this was a comprise,

1651
00:53:59,966 --> 00:54:02,266
overall.  There was several

1652
00:54:01,133 --> 00:54:03,933
things that community members

1653
00:54:02,366 --> 00:54:05,433
that don't prefer to drive

1654
00:54:04,033 --> 00:54:07,300
wanted and did not receive.

1655
00:54:05,533 --> 00:54:09,466
there were several things that

1656
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,433
people who are a part of the

1657
00:54:09,566 --> 00:54:13,533
business community or are

1658
00:54:12,533 --> 00:54:15,100
predominantly drivers wanted and

1659
00:54:13,633 --> 00:54:18,866
got or wanted and didn't get.

1660
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:20,166
and I think the really big sort

1661
00:54:18,966 --> 00:54:21,933
that hangs over our head is the

1662
00:54:20,266 --> 00:54:23,966
fact that 45% of the funding

1663
00:54:22,033 --> 00:54:24,766
that we need to make this

1664
00:54:24,066 --> 00:54:30,133
project happen comes from the

1665
00:54:24,866 --> 00:54:31,500
federal governmt.  And I thinkwl

1666
00:54:30,233 --> 00:54:33,433
government isn't coming to save

1667
00:54:31,633 --> 00:54:35,300
any time soon.  We might as

1668
00:54:33,533 --> 00:54:36,433
well te the funding we have,

1669
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,366
be able to do this

1670
00:54:36,533 --> 00:54:40,433
reconstructionroject, and move

1671
00:54:39,466 --> 00:54:42,766
forward.  Or otherwise we might

1672
00:54:40,533 --> 00:54:44,633
not be guaranteed the funding we

1673
00:54:42,866 --> 00:54:48,133
need to address a street that's

1674
00:54:45,266 --> 00:54:51,166
been aging for a hundred years.

1675
00:54:48,233 --> 00:54:52,600
and I also hear the concern

1676
00:54:51,266 --> 00:54:54,333
about construction being a death

1677
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:57,300
note to a neighborhood and its

1678
00:54:54,433 --> 00:54:58,866
vibrancy.  And that's why I'm

1679
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:02,033
bringing forward a motion, an

1680
00:54:58,966 --> 00:55:08,066
amendment to the resolution, and

1681
00:55:02,133 --> 00:55:11,633
I'd like to read it a loud.

1682
00:55:08,166 --> 00:55:12,700
br whereas: the cityencourages h

1683
00:55:11,733 --> 00:55:14,866
the county to minimize

1684
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,666
disruption by increasing

1685
00:55:14,966 --> 00:55:17,400
activation during street

1686
00:55:16,766 --> 00:55:18,533
closures by supporting

1687
00:55:17,500 --> 00:55:20,533
development of proamming such

1688
00:55:18,633 --> 00:55:22,300
as but not limited to daytime

1689
00:55:20,633 --> 00:55:24,233
events and activities,

1690
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,100
performances, seating areas,

1691
00:55:24,533 --> 00:55:29,233
food stalls, interim plazas, and

1692
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,366
similar uses.  And, whereas, the

1693
00:55:29,333 --> 00:55:32,333
approach is recommended by the

1694
00:55:30,466 --> 00:55:33,700
national association of city

1695
00:55:32,433 --> 00:55:36,600
transportation officials for

1696
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,400
temporary street closures

1697
00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:38,533
allowing citieto make better

1698
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:39,700
use of the roadways.

1699
00:55:38,866 --> 00:55:41,400
particularly during off peak

1700
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,766
hours and weekends and creating

1701
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:45,166
opportunities to draw attention

1702
00:55:42,866 --> 00:55:46,633
to neiborhood businesses and

1703
00:55:45,266 --> 00:55:48,633
destinations while increasing

1704
00:55:46,716 --> 00:55:49,033
foot traffic on designated

1705
00:55:48,733 --> 00:55:51,233
corridors.

1706
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:52,266
we can make street

1707
00:55:51,333 --> 00:55:53,666
reconstruction something that

1708
00:55:52,366 --> 00:55:55,366
brings community members into

1709
00:55:53,766 --> 00:55:57,166
the corridor.  We do it every

1710
00:55:55,466 --> 00:55:58,800
time we close down lyndale

1711
00:55:57,266 --> 00:56:00,800
avenue for open streets.  So

1712
00:55:58,900 --> 00:56:02,733
let's do beers and bulldozers,

1713
00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:04,866
have interim plazas, create a

1714
00:56:02,833 --> 00:56:07,033
place for our kids to play and

1715
00:56:04,966 --> 00:56:08,933
let's have the city and the

1716
00:56:07,166 --> 00:56:11,166
unty chip in.  Commissioner

1717
00:56:09,033 --> 00:56:13,000
marionreen highlighted in an

1718
00:56:11,266 --> 00:56:14,200
interview recently, this is

1719
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:16,333
someing she's interested in

1720
00:56:14,300 --> 00:56:18,033
collaborating on.  Heck, let's

1721
00:56:16,433 --> 00:56:20,900
bring the dancing pencils from

1722
00:56:18,133 --> 00:56:22,666
lake of the aisles into lyndale

1723
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,733
avenue to bring some of that

1724
00:56:22,766 --> 00:56:25,166
whimsy.  I don't think it needs

1725
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,200
to be a death note for the

1726
00:56:25,266 --> 00:56:31,866
business community.  I think it

1727
00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:32,333
can be a huge boom.  And we can

1728
00:56:31,966 --> 00:56:33,700
replace 100-year-old

1729
00:56:32,433 --> 00:56:33,933
infrastructure and build for the

1730
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,433
future.

1731
00:56:34,166 --> 00:56:38,900
» Madam city attorne

1732
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,366
» Umm, thank you council

1733
00:56:39,233 --> 00:56:41,533
president.  I thought I would

1734
00:56:40,566 --> 00:56:42,866
formally answer the question

1735
00:56:41,633 --> 00:56:46,966
when I said my understanding

1736
00:56:42,966 --> 00:56:50,166
was.  Director sexton is correct

1737
00:56:47,166 --> 00:56:51,000
that the process requires

1738
00:56:50,266 --> 00:56:53,533
approval of the governing body

1739
00:56:51,233 --> 00:56:56,266
of the city, which, as we've

1740
00:56:53,633 --> 00:56:58,966
interpreted it, is this body and

1741
00:56:56,350 --> 00:57:00,033
the mayor.  There is a dispute

1742
00:56:59,066 --> 00:57:02,966
resolution procedure set forth

1743
00:57:00,233 --> 00:57:06,266
in the statute that if we fail

1744
00:57:03,266 --> 00:57:07,900
to approve, then the county may

1745
00:57:06,366 --> 00:57:11,466
request the appointment of a

1746
00:57:08,333 --> 00:57:12,700
dispute resolution board.

1747
00:57:11,566 --> 00:57:14,133
consisting of one county

1748
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,866
commissioner, one county

1749
00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:19,100
engineer, one city council

1750
00:57:15,966 --> 00:57:20,100
member, or one city mayor, one

1751
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,900
engineer and representative of

1752
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,866
the department of transcription

1753
00:57:21,266 --> 00:57:24,733
to renew the proposal and make

1754
00:57:23,966 --> 00:57:26,366
recommendations notwithstanding

1755
00:57:24,833 --> 00:57:29,800
any other law, the commissioner

1756
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,800
may approve the establishment

1757
00:57:29,900 --> 00:57:33,133
... Recommended by the board.

1758
00:57:31,900 --> 00:57:35,133
so, essentially, the answer is

1759
00:57:33,233 --> 00:57:38,466
you have to approve it but there

1760
00:57:36,633 --> 00:57:39,966
is a process and I wouldn't want

1761
00:57:38,566 --> 00:57:41,166
anyone to be surprised if you

1762
00:57:40,066 --> 00:57:43,133
did not approve it, then there

1763
00:57:41,266 --> 00:57:45,000
could be this dispute resolution

1764
00:57:43,233 --> 00:57:48,200
process.  So hopefully that

1765
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:51,033
answers questions.

1766
00:57:48,566 --> 00:57:53,733
» Council member wonsley.

1767
00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:56,300
» Thank you, president payne.

1768
00:57:53,833 --> 00:57:57,966
umm, first, I do want to just

1769
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,266
say thank you to all the

1770
00:57:58,166 --> 00:58:03,233
residents who have came forward,

1771
00:58:01,366 --> 00:58:06,000
umm, and advocated and

1772
00:58:03,333 --> 00:58:07,366
organized, umm, across our city

1773
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:10,466
to ensure that all government

1774
00:58:07,466 --> 00:58:11,666
agencies that are involved with

1775
00:58:10,566 --> 00:58:14,033
this project are being held

1776
00:58:11,766 --> 00:58:16,466
condit accountable

1777
00:58:14,266 --> 00:58:17,866
to the commitments we've made to

1778
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,400
improve transportation access

1779
00:58:17,966 --> 00:58:21,300
and expand multimodal options

1780
00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:23,766
for getting around minneapolis

1781
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,500
safely.  The lyndale project is

1782
00:58:23,866 --> 00:58:26,566
county led as established, our

1783
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,566
residents have been engaging the

1784
00:58:26,666 --> 00:58:30,000
city council on this proposal

1785
00:58:27,666 --> 00:58:31,400
for nearly two years.  Because

1786
00:58:30,100 --> 00:58:32,500
they understand that these

1787
00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:34,800
decisions have lasting

1788
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,933
consequences for our city.

1789
00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:37,866
minneapolis, specifically, also

1790
00:58:37,033 --> 00:58:39,233
understand the significance of

1791
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,566
this.  Because we set the

1792
00:58:39,333 --> 00:58:43,133
ambitious goal of ensuring that

1793
00:58:41,666 --> 00:58:45,966
three out of every five trips

1794
00:58:43,233 --> 00:58:47,200
are made without a car by 2030.

1795
00:58:46,066 --> 00:58:49,433
and that deadline is less than

1796
00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:50,700
four years away.  So if we are

1797
00:58:49,533 --> 00:58:52,733
serious about meeting that

1798
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,833
commitment, then we must take

1799
00:58:52,833 --> 00:58:56,600
every opportunity available to

1800
00:58:53,933 --> 00:58:57,500
move closer to that goal.  But

1801
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,066
unfortunately, projects like

1802
00:58:57,966 --> 00:59:01,966
this have reinforced a troubling

1803
00:59:00,166 --> 00:59:03,400
reality for many residents

1804
00:59:02,066 --> 00:59:04,933
indicating that adopting bold

1805
00:59:03,500 --> 00:59:06,566
transcription plans is one

1806
00:59:05,033 --> 00:59:09,100
thing.  But then when it comes

1807
00:59:06,666 --> 00:59:10,266
to actually delivering the

1808
00:59:09,233 --> 00:59:12,133
frastructure necessary to

1809
00:59:10,366 --> 00:59:14,833
achieve them, becomes a whole

1810
00:59:12,233 --> 00:59:16,300
other situation.  That's

1811
00:59:14,933 --> 00:59:17,600
becoming overpoliticized in many

1812
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,133
ways and threatens our ability

1813
00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:21,166
to meet the goals.  And time and

1814
00:59:19,233 --> 00:59:22,266
time again, we've seen that

1815
00:59:21,266 --> 00:59:25,566
meaningful improvements for

1816
00:59:22,366 --> 00:59:27,033
people who walk, bike, or rely

1817
00:59:25,733 --> 00:59:30,066
on transits are not guaranteed

1818
00:59:27,133 --> 00:59:31,966
when we do the massive road or

1819
00:59:30,166 --> 00:59:33,566
resurfacing projects.  And they

1820
00:59:32,066 --> 00:59:35,066
often only happen because

1821
00:59:33,666 --> 00:59:37,933
residents stay engaged, they

1822
00:59:35,166 --> 00:59:40,266
speak up, and refuse to let

1823
00:59:38,033 --> 00:59:40,866
important design elements be

1824
00:59:40,366 --> 00:59:42,566
quietly stripped away

1825
00:59:40,966 --> 00:59:44,266
I don't want to continue

1826
00:59:42,666 --> 00:59:46,366
normalizing the practice of

1827
00:59:44,366 --> 00:59:47,933
moving goal posts on what a safe

1828
00:59:46,466 --> 00:59:50,600
complete streets should look

1829
00:59:48,033 --> 00:59:53,066
like.  I'm particularly troubled

1830
00:59:50,700 --> 00:59:54,333
with the level of opposition to

1831
00:59:53,166 --> 00:59:55,866
incorporating green

1832
00:59:55,066 --> 00:59:56,766
infrastructure in other

1833
00:59:55,966 --> 00:59:59,866
improvement safety improvements

1834
00:59:56,866 --> 01:00:02,000
into our roadways.  And while I

1835
00:59:59,966 --> 01:00:03,366
understand and sympathize with

1836
01:00:02,333 --> 01:00:04,600
the disruption that construction

1837
01:00:03,466 --> 01:00:07,766
can create for businesses, the

1838
01:00:04,700 --> 01:00:08,733
notion that we should abandon or

1839
01:00:07,866 --> 01:00:09,833
indefinitely delay a

1840
01:00:08,833 --> 01:00:11,300
reconstruction project on a

1841
01:00:09,933 --> 01:00:13,633
corridor that is widely

1842
01:00:12,033 --> 01:00:17,100
recognized as unsafe is simply

1843
01:00:13,733 --> 01:00:18,000
not responsible leadership.  And

1844
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,466
further necessary improvements

1845
01:00:18,300 --> 01:00:22,233
what only prolong unsafe

1846
01:00:21,566 --> 01:00:23,866
conditions for everyone using

1847
01:00:22,333 --> 01:00:24,700
the corridor.  As elected

1848
01:00:23,966 --> 01:00:26,266
officials, we should be clear

1849
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,400
with the public knowing to

1850
01:00:26,366 --> 01:00:30,033
maximize opportunities to

1851
01:00:27,866 --> 01:00:31,733
improve walking, biking, and

1852
01:00:30,133 --> 01:00:33,966
transit infrastructure is not

1853
01:00:31,833 --> 01:00:35,133
only poor governance.  It's also

1854
01:00:34,066 --> 01:00:35,700
inconsistent with the

1855
01:00:35,233 --> 01:00:37,300
transportation policies and

1856
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,566
climate commitments that this

1857
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,166
body and the city has made, umm,

1858
01:00:39,666 --> 01:00:43,366
towards our residents.

1859
01:00:41,266 --> 01:00:45,033
and at the same time, I agree

1860
01:00:43,466 --> 01:00:46,733
that the agencies undertaking

1861
01:00:45,133 --> 01:00:47,933
these projects of scale should

1862
01:00:46,833 --> 01:00:50,133
have the responsibility to

1863
01:00:48,033 --> 01:00:52,166
support small businesses

1864
01:00:50,233 --> 01:00:53,366
affected by, ah, construction.

1865
01:00:52,266 --> 01:00:55,300
I think those intentions are

1866
01:00:53,466 --> 01:00:57,566
reflected in the amendments

1867
01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:00,033
being brought forward by council

1868
01:00:57,666 --> 01:01:01,500
member chowdhury and stevenson.

1869
01:01:00,133 --> 01:01:03,200
umm, we also should expect from

1870
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:05,066
our partners that, you know, the

1871
01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:06,066
things that we're asking of

1872
01:01:05,166 --> 01:01:08,633
them, we should be modeling

1873
01:01:06,166 --> 01:01:10,266
ourselves.  And that's exactly

1874
01:01:08,733 --> 01:01:11,600
why two years ago, I supported

1875
01:01:10,366 --> 01:01:13,433
council member chughtai's

1876
01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:14,400
amendment to create a pilot

1877
01:01:13,533 --> 01:01:16,166
program providing financial

1878
01:01:14,500 --> 01:01:18,100
assistance to businesses

1879
01:01:16,366 --> 01:01:20,666
impacted by major transit

1880
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:22,900
construction.  And that proposal

1881
01:01:20,766 --> 01:01:24,233
was made using feedback from our

1882
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:29,400
residents, from business owners

1883
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:30,033
in her ward and gave mitc

1884
01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:31,500
minneapolis the opportunity to

1885
01:01:30,133 --> 01:01:33,066
lead by example on how to

1886
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,066
address the challenge that we're

1887
01:01:33,166 --> 01:01:37,700
repeatedly running into.

1888
01:01:35,166 --> 01:01:39,633
unfortunately, that nearly $1

1889
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,700
million used to address that

1890
01:01:39,733 --> 01:01:42,966
very real challenge was

1891
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,333
redirected because of mpd's

1892
01:01:43,066 --> 01:01:46,700
budget overruns and thus the

1893
01:01:44,433 --> 01:01:49,200
pilot was never implemented.

1894
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:52,300
had the program been carriedoutu

1895
01:01:49,300 --> 01:01:53,900
be in a much stronger position

1896
01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:55,966
to ask hennepin county to

1897
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:58,200
provide similar support tobusine

1898
01:01:56,300 --> 01:02:00,066
lyndale construction.  Or

1899
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:01,400
reconstruction.  But my hope is,

1900
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,866
the county will continue to work

1901
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:05,200
with business owners to minimize

1902
01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:06,533
construction impacts while

1903
01:02:05,300 --> 01:02:07,833
preserving the critical design

1904
01:02:06,633 --> 01:02:09,500
elements that would provide

1905
01:02:07,933 --> 01:02:11,333
lasting benefits for, again, for

1906
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,966
our residents who walk, bike,

1907
01:02:11,433 --> 01:02:15,866
who use transit, or otherwise

1908
01:02:14,066 --> 01:02:16,633
travel without a car.  I also,

1909
01:02:15,966 --> 01:02:18,466
again, I want to say thank you

1910
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,433
to the hundreds of residents who

1911
01:02:18,566 --> 01:02:21,800
participated in this process,

1912
01:02:20,533 --> 01:02:23,166
who reached out to my office and

1913
01:02:21,900 --> 01:02:24,533
council members if for the past

1914
01:02:23,266 --> 01:02:26,566
several weeks.  Your advocate

1915
01:02:24,633 --> 01:02:29,500
sied a have side

1916
01:02:26,666 --> 01:02:31,366
communi --

1917
01:02:30,633 --> 01:02:33,000
advocacy change the course of

1918
01:02:31,466 --> 01:02:33,900
the design.  You helped bring

1919
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:35,333
forward a proposal that

1920
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,900
hopefully this body can move

1921
01:02:35,433 --> 01:02:39,600
forward and support today.  And

1922
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,966
I just want say thank you for

1923
01:02:39,700 --> 01:02:41,866
your leadership and your

1924
01:02:41,066 --> 01:02:42,933
persistence for holding us

1925
01:02:41,966 --> 01:02:51,066
accountable to the commitments

1926
01:02:43,033 --> 01:02:53,833
that we made.  Thanks.  S

1927
01:02:51,166 --> 01:02:54,933
council member chud I are

1928
01:02:53,933 --> 01:02:56,100
chowdhury introduce canned the

1929
01:02:55,033 --> 01:02:57,800
amendment.  I think we should

1930
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,433
take it as amended with both

1931
01:02:57,900 --> 01:03:00,766
amendments.  Is that okay,

1932
01:03:00,533 --> 01:03:02,833
mr. Clerk?

1933
01:03:00,866 --> 01:03:05,566
» Objection in the body, we

1934
01:03:02,933 --> 01:03:18,033
have an amendment in front of

1935
01:03:05,666 --> 01:03:19,766
us.  We had an amendment offered

1936
01:03:18,566 --> 01:03:20,866
by stevenson no second.  And

1937
01:03:19,850 --> 01:03:21,866
council member chowdhury

1938
01:03:20,966 --> 01:03:24,033
mentioned she had an amendment

1939
01:03:21,966 --> 01:03:25,766
and read it

1940
01:03:24,333 --> 01:03:29,866
» Point of order.  I'm in queue

1941
01:03:25,866 --> 01:03:30,900
to talk about this.  Okay

1942
01:03:29,966 --> 01:03:31,133
council member stevenson had a

1943
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,133
second.

1944
01:03:31,233 --> 01:03:34,166
» I seconded it.

1945
01:03:32,233 --> 01:03:34,400
» We didn't catch it.

1946
01:03:34,266 --> 01:03:36,033
» Okay.

1947
01:03:34,533 --> 01:03:37,800
» Yeah.  Yeah.  Okay.  We'll

1948
01:03:36,133 --> 01:03:40,266
get through the rest of this

1949
01:03:37,900 --> 01:03:42,366
conversation and then we'll deal

1950
01:03:40,366 --> 01:03:44,066
with how we'll package that.

1951
01:03:42,466 --> 01:03:47,100
council member chavez.

1952
01:03:44,300 --> 01:03:48,666
» Council president payne, hi,

1953
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,566
staff.  Welcome.  One question.

1954
01:03:48,766 --> 01:03:54,100
can you please outline the risk

1955
01:03:51,783 --> 01:03:56,666
of delays or the risk of not

1956
01:03:54,200 --> 01:04:00,233
approving this today.

1957
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,900
» Welcome.  Introduce yourself,

1958
01:04:00,333 --> 01:04:02,033
if you could.

1959
01:04:01,066 --> 01:04:04,166
» Council president, council

1960
01:04:02,116 --> 01:04:06,300
member chavez, my name is

1961
01:04:04,266 --> 01:04:07,066
fontaine burrs.  A senior

1962
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,683
transportation planner with

1963
01:04:07,166 --> 01:04:12,833
public works.  The county's

1964
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:15,733
demo deadline, which means

1965
01:04:13,033 --> 01:04:19,700
need to have full final plan

1966
01:04:15,833 --> 01:04:20,766
sets is june of 2027.  Risk of

1967
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,800
delay would risk the federal

1968
01:04:20,866 --> 01:04:25,666
funding for the project.

1969
01:04:24,100 --> 01:04:27,033
» Would you please outline how

1970
01:04:25,766 --> 01:04:31,033
much money that is.  My

1971
01:04:27,133 --> 01:04:32,066
understanding that it cou lose

1972
01:04:31,133 --> 01:04:32,966
$9 million in federal funding.

1973
01:04:32,166 --> 01:04:35,166
» That's correct.

1974
01:04:33,233 --> 01:04:36,966
» And my understanding is that

1975
01:04:35,266 --> 01:04:39,733
by delaying or voting against

1976
01:04:37,066 --> 01:04:40,933
this, we could then add

1977
01:04:39,833 --> 01:04:43,266
increased costs to the project,

1978
01:04:41,033 --> 01:04:47,400
is this correct?

1979
01:04:43,633 --> 01:04:48,333
» Cou council president,

1980
01:04:47,500 --> 01:04:50,566
council member chaz, there

1981
01:04:48,433 --> 01:04:53,133
would be a funding gap if the

1982
01:04:51,033 --> 01:04:56,500
fedel funding is lost.  That

1983
01:04:53,633 --> 01:04:58,200
is about 45% of the total cost

1984
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,433
that would need additional

1985
01:04:58,300 --> 01:05:00,533
funding.

1986
01:04:58,666 --> 01:05:03,600
» Great.  Thank you so much.

1987
01:05:00,633 --> 01:05:04,800
I'm proud to support this today.

1988
01:05:03,933 --> 01:05:06,133
if I don'tant to be in a

1989
01:05:04,900 --> 01:05:08,033
position to throw over

1990
01:05:06,233 --> 01:05:09,933
$9 million in federal funding.

1991
01:05:08,133 --> 01:05:11,166
I also want to say that projects

1992
01:05:10,033 --> 01:05:12,733
like this also help bring

1993
01:05:11,266 --> 01:05:18,233
business to the area, customers

1994
01:05:12,866 --> 01:05:21,200
to the area, and as I take this

1995
01:05:18,333 --> 01:05:23,700
vote today, I think about the

1996
01:05:21,300 --> 01:05:24,400
kids that deserve safe streets.

1997
01:05:23,833 --> 01:05:25,066
they don't deserve

1998
01:05:24,500 --> 01:05:26,883
infrastructure that is unsafe.

1999
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,000
I wanted to flag that.  I think

2000
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,133
it is important to vote for

2001
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:32,533
this.  Because I think that if

2002
01:05:30,233 --> 01:05:34,566
we are going to be t t

2003
01:05:32,633 --> 01:05:36,066
delaying this or not approving

2004
01:05:34,666 --> 01:05:37,300
it, throwing away millions of

2005
01:05:36,166 --> 01:05:39,900
dollars, it's not in the best

2006
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,300
interest of the city and our

2007
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,166
residents.

2008
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,066
I understander the concerns that

2009
01:05:42,266 --> 01:05:44,700
folks have when it comes to

2010
01:05:44,166 --> 01:05:46,566
construction.  And since there

2011
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,966
was comparisons made to hennepin

2012
01:05:46,666 --> 01:05:49,333
avenue.  I think it is important

2013
01:05:48,066 --> 01:05:51,066
to talk about the lessons

2014
01:05:49,433 --> 01:05:52,333
learned from that.  I was proud

2015
01:05:51,166 --> 01:05:54,633
to support a budget amendment

2016
01:05:52,433 --> 01:05:57,533
led by council member chughtai

2017
01:05:55,233 --> 01:05:59,800
for $900,000 for small business

2018
01:05:57,633 --> 01:06:01,033
construction and hardship fund

2019
01:05:59,900 --> 01:06:02,333
for hennepin avenue and other

2020
01:06:01,133 --> 01:06:04,033
areas.  While the city council

2021
01:06:02,433 --> 01:06:05,666
helped fund this, it was never

2022
01:06:04,233 --> 01:06:07,166
implemented by the mayor's

2023
01:06:05,766 --> 01:06:08,333
administration.  So I hope the

2024
01:06:07,266 --> 01:06:10,433
county ends up putting some

2025
01:06:08,433 --> 01:06:12,166
funding into supporting these

2026
01:06:10,533 --> 01:06:13,666
small businesses and I hope it

2027
01:06:12,266 --> 01:06:16,066
gets implemented.  And I hope

2028
01:06:13,766 --> 01:06:17,166
that it does get implemented.

2029
01:06:16,166 --> 01:06:18,366
because if what happens when it

2030
01:06:17,266 --> 01:06:19,933
came to hennepin avenue it was

2031
01:06:18,466 --> 01:06:21,633
not implemented when the city

2032
01:06:20,166 --> 01:06:22,366
council funded it, we saw

2033
01:06:21,733 --> 01:06:23,966
massive implications for the

2034
01:06:22,666 --> 01:06:25,333
small businesses.  There are

2035
01:06:24,066 --> 01:06:25,733
lessons learned.  I hope that's

2036
01:06:25,433 --> 01:06:28,566
one of them.

2037
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:33,100
» Council member chowdhury.

2038
01:06:29,500 --> 01:06:35,633
» Thanks, president payne.  I

2039
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,966
wanted to make -- I don't think

2040
01:06:35,733 --> 01:06:40,466
it's making a motion.  But

2041
01:06:37,066 --> 01:06:42,300
asking that we -- if, umm,

2042
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:45,766
cocil member stevenson would

2043
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:47,266
be all right if I had myamendmee

2044
01:06:45,866 --> 01:06:48,933
that's before us.  I believe we

2045
01:06:47,366 --> 01:06:50,500
can take that up as, like, a

2046
01:06:49,333 --> 01:06:55,166
friendly addition to his

2047
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:56,266
amendment.  No?  What's the

2048
01:06:55,266 --> 01:06:56,666
process for packaging these

2049
01:06:56,366 --> 01:06:58,000
together then?

2050
01:06:56,833 --> 01:06:59,633
» That's a vote of the body.

2051
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,266
if there's no objection,

2052
01:06:59,733 --> 01:07:03,466
certainly, the body can say we

2053
01:07:01,366 --> 01:07:05,100
want to take it up.  If any

2054
01:07:03,566 --> 01:07:07,533
member objects, it has to be

2055
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:10,433
done by an amendment process.

2056
01:07:07,633 --> 01:07:11,466
is there any objection to

2057
01:07:10,533 --> 01:07:12,500
merging the two amendments on

2058
01:07:11,566 --> 01:07:14,966
the dais?

2059
01:07:13,466 --> 01:07:17,433
» Any objection from the body?

2060
01:07:15,066 --> 01:07:21,666
not seeing any.  Let's take it

2061
01:07:17,533 --> 01:07:22,800
up as a package.  Is that good,

2062
01:07:21,766 --> 01:07:25,266
council member?

2063
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:27,200
that works for me.  Looks

2064
01:07:25,366 --> 01:07:27,466
like it works for council member

2065
01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:28,733
stevenson.

2066
01:07:27,566 --> 01:07:29,600
» Sounds good.  Council member

2067
01:07:28,833 --> 01:07:31,500
shaffer.

2068
01:07:29,700 --> 01:07:32,966
» Yes.  I'm wondering if

2069
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,433
council could reiterate for me

2070
01:07:33,066 --> 01:07:36,533
one time if we were to deny it,

2071
01:07:34,533 --> 01:07:37,933
you mentioned there was another

2072
01:07:36,633 --> 01:07:38,900
council that was set up.  Can

2073
01:07:38,033 --> 01:07:41,566
you repeat that.

2074
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:44,666
» Madam city attorney.

2075
01:07:43,433 --> 01:07:46,566
» Council member president,

2076
01:07:44,766 --> 01:07:49,466
council member shaffer.  So the

2077
01:07:46,666 --> 01:07:53,200
statute provides that if the

2078
01:07:49,566 --> 01:07:57,300
city's governing body does not

2079
01:07:54,400 --> 01:08:02,266
approve, then the county board

2080
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:04,366
may, by resolution, request a

2081
01:08:02,366 --> 01:08:05,933
dispute resolution body that

2082
01:08:04,566 --> 01:08:07,166
would gather together again with

2083
01:08:06,033 --> 01:08:08,666
many different employers from

2084
01:08:07,250 --> 01:08:12,866
the different entities that

2085
01:08:08,766 --> 01:08:14,266
would gather together and review

2086
01:08:12,966 --> 01:08:15,933
the recommendation and make a

2087
01:08:14,366 --> 01:08:16,333
recommendation to the department

2088
01:08:16,033 --> 01:08:19,566
of transportation.

2089
01:08:16,433 --> 01:08:20,800
» Ek 0 tha okay.

2090
01:08:19,666 --> 01:08:22,100
thank you.  I don't want to

2091
01:08:20,900 --> 01:08:24,766
pause on the project.  I don't

2092
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,166
want to lose federal funding on

2093
01:08:24,866 --> 01:08:28,500
the project.  We need to move

2094
01:08:26,266 --> 01:08:29,333
this project forward.  We have

2095
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,400
aging infrastructure that needs

2096
01:08:30,033 --> 01:08:34,300
to happen.  I support a lot of

2097
01:08:31,500 --> 01:08:37,100
the elements of the design.  To

2098
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,800
me, the most primary thing that

2099
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,866
we have an opportunity before us

2100
01:08:38,933 --> 01:08:44,666
as a board to do at this moment

2101
01:08:42,433 --> 01:08:47,666
in time is take a different

2102
01:08:44,766 --> 01:08:48,533
approach to how we handle

2103
01:08:47,766 --> 01:08:50,733
infrastructure overlapping with

2104
01:08:48,633 --> 01:08:53,400
businesses in a very strong

2105
01:08:51,233 --> 01:08:55,666
commercial corridor.  To take

2106
01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:57,866
the time with a mediating body

2107
01:08:55,866 --> 01:09:01,266
to sit down and say, hey, it's

2108
01:08:57,966 --> 01:09:04,800
not xyz that's the problem.

2109
01:09:01,366 --> 01:09:05,600
it's the problem of how we've

2110
01:09:04,900 --> 01:09:07,133
handled infrastructure in

2111
01:09:05,683 --> 01:09:10,666
protecting our city revenue.

2112
01:09:07,233 --> 01:09:13,800
when we go through multi-year

2113
01:09:10,766 --> 01:09:17,266
projects.  That really we need

2114
01:09:13,900 --> 01:09:20,333
and want.  So my idea is, this

2115
01:09:17,366 --> 01:09:24,533
is an opportunity to build

2116
01:09:20,433 --> 01:09:25,733
trust.  Currently, we I think as

2117
01:09:24,633 --> 01:09:28,633
a public and residents here,

2118
01:09:25,833 --> 01:09:29,766
city staff, county staff,

2119
01:09:28,733 --> 01:09:32,433
council member staff, yes, we

2120
01:09:29,866 --> 01:09:34,100
hear the concerns.  We know that

2121
01:09:32,533 --> 01:09:35,366
you don't think you're going to

2122
01:09:34,466 --> 01:09:36,733
have the band width to be able

2123
01:09:35,466 --> 01:09:39,200
to get through the shut down

2124
01:09:37,066 --> 01:09:40,300
your business might close, et.

2125
01:09:39,300 --> 01:09:41,533
cetera, et. Cetera.  All the

2126
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,133
things we've been hearing.  The

2127
01:09:41,633 --> 01:09:45,866
fear.  Real fear we've been

2128
01:09:43,233 --> 01:09:46,600
hearing from small family

2129
01:09:45,966 --> 01:09:48,166
members that run small

2130
01:09:46,700 --> 01:09:49,866
businesses on the corridor.  But

2131
01:09:48,466 --> 01:09:52,133
we say yes we hear it all and

2132
01:09:49,966 --> 01:09:52,766
we'll take it into

2133
01:09:52,233 --> 01:09:54,100
consideration, in general

2134
01:09:52,866 --> 01:09:55,766
additions to our amendment.

2135
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,866
like we'll try to save more

2136
01:09:55,866 --> 01:09:59,766
trees or we'll try to make up

2137
01:09:57,966 --> 01:10:02,433
the timeline go faster.  But

2138
01:10:00,066 --> 01:10:06,066
unfortunately, there's nothing

2139
01:10:02,516 --> 01:10:07,300
specific.  To me, I see it as an

2140
01:10:06,166 --> 01:10:10,133
opportunity to the vote it down

2141
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:11,766
and say not a bad design.  Not,

2142
01:10:10,433 --> 01:10:13,833
you know, going to lose the

2143
01:10:11,866 --> 01:10:16,000
federal funds.  But take one

2144
01:10:13,933 --> 01:10:17,833
core piece of the discussion and

2145
01:10:16,166 --> 01:10:20,300
hyperfocus it on how we can do

2146
01:10:17,933 --> 01:10:22,066
things differently and have

2147
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,000
specific languages for our

2148
01:10:22,166 --> 01:10:24,800
business that doesn't get the

2149
01:10:23,100 --> 01:10:27,500
city or the county doing more

2150
01:10:24,900 --> 01:10:29,233
than they should for businesses.

2151
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,933
but have something specific for

2152
01:10:29,333 --> 01:10:35,166
them to hang their hat on and

2153
01:10:32,033 --> 01:10:37,300
say, you know, the city and the

2154
01:10:35,266 --> 01:10:38,366
county listened.  City really

2155
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,533
appreciate hearing about council

2156
01:10:38,466 --> 01:10:42,933
member chavez and council member

2157
01:10:39,866 --> 01:10:47,833
wonsley bringing up this pilot

2158
01:10:43,033 --> 01:10:49,433
program.  Of the $900,000.  We

2159
01:10:47,933 --> 01:10:51,133
don't know what happened to it.

2160
01:10:49,533 --> 01:10:52,366
went away.  This is what I'm

2161
01:10:51,233 --> 01:10:53,966
asking my colleagues to consider

2162
01:10:52,466 --> 01:10:55,083
again.  Let's go back to the

2163
01:10:54,066 --> 01:10:56,833
table.  I don't know where we

2164
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:59,266
would find the money, but we can

2165
01:10:56,933 --> 01:11:01,000
start with just language around

2166
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,900
extended hours that lays out

2167
01:11:01,100 --> 01:11:03,933
clearly where we're heading with

2168
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,200
construction timelines.  Once we

2169
01:11:04,033 --> 01:11:11,033
get the phasing.  So we have

2170
01:11:07,300 --> 01:11:13,100
time.  We have time, it sounds

2171
01:11:11,133 --> 01:11:15,666
like, until, forgive me if I'm

2172
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,833
wrong, june 1, 2027.  I'm,

2173
01:11:15,766 --> 01:11:19,066
director.  Obviously, we want to

2174
01:11:16,933 --> 01:11:20,566
be done before then.  We don't

2175
01:11:19,166 --> 01:11:25,500
want to push the project past

2176
01:11:22,533 --> 01:11:27,200
2028 start.  That's my plea.  I

2177
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:30,633
understand that's a little

2178
01:11:27,283 --> 01:11:32,433
outside the box.  But I think we

2179
01:11:30,733 --> 01:11:34,566
are a body that's willing to

2180
01:11:32,566 --> 01:11:37,233
think outside the box.  An so

2181
01:11:34,900 --> 01:11:39,700
thank you for your

2182
01:11:37,333 --> 01:11:41,600
consideration. Of not pausing,

2183
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,766
not saying it's a bad design.

2184
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,900
not complete I willing we're

2185
01:11:42,866 --> 01:11:45,366
voting to lose our federal

2186
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:46,766
funding.  But voting to say no

2187
01:11:45,533 --> 01:11:48,533
in this moment that we can do

2188
01:11:46,866 --> 01:11:50,533
better to the county and let's

2189
01:11:48,633 --> 01:11:53,366
put our heads together to make

2190
01:11:50,633 --> 01:11:59,800
something really exciting to be

2191
01:11:54,300 --> 01:12:01,300
a road map for future

2192
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:01,900
multi-jurisdictional multiyear

2193
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:02,066
infrastructure project.  Thank

2194
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:02,933
you.

2195
01:12:02,166 --> 01:12:05,500
» Council member whiting.

2196
01:12:03,233 --> 01:12:06,433
» Thank you.  A point of

2197
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,800
clarification, maybe, for the

2198
01:12:06,533 --> 01:12:11,300
clerks here.  I know we have two

2199
01:12:08,900 --> 01:12:13,800
different amendments in front of

2200
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,333
us.  They don't necessarily

2201
01:12:13,900 --> 01:12:17,600
match.  With the merger of

2202
01:12:15,433 --> 01:12:19,500
these, like, I'm just -- I know

2203
01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:23,566
this isn't normal that we can

2204
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:26,333
kind of do amendments from the

2205
01:12:23,700 --> 01:12:28,700
da.  But trying to figure out

2206
01:12:26,433 --> 01:12:29,566
how these, like, are we

2207
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,400
accepting the deletions and

2208
01:12:29,666 --> 01:12:33,966
acceance of one, merging them

2209
01:12:31,933 --> 01:12:35,600
over?  Like, just kind of c

2210
01:12:34,066 --> 01:12:36,666
confused here how they're going

2211
01:12:35,733 --> 01:12:37,733
toerge together.

2212
01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:39,633
» Mr. Clerk.

2213
01:12:38,233 --> 01:12:41,566
» Mr. President, exactly as

2214
01:12:39,733 --> 01:12:44,466
council member stevenson said.

2215
01:12:41,666 --> 01:12:45,266
the motion pending now is the

2216
01:12:44,566 --> 01:12:47,166
combination of the amendment

2217
01:12:45,366 --> 01:12:49,266
offered by council member

2218
01:12:47,266 --> 01:12:50,266
stevenson and the amendment

2219
01:12:49,366 --> 01:12:53,266
offered by council member chud I

2220
01:12:50,366 --> 01:12:54,500
are.  You'd have to look at both

2221
01:12:53,366 --> 01:12:55,600
the documents in front of you

2222
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,866
and accept the strike throughs

2223
01:12:55,700 --> 01:13:02,166
and the underlined additions as

2224
01:12:58,966 --> 01:13:03,966
one single document.  My best

2225
01:13:02,266 --> 01:13:05,466
advise, in terms of clarity on a

2226
01:13:04,066 --> 01:13:06,433
vote.  So the record is correct

2227
01:13:05,566 --> 01:13:08,900
and people know what they're

2228
01:13:06,533 --> 01:13:11,300
voting on, is that we set this

2229
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:13,300
aside.  Let the clerks go

2230
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,433
prepare one document that merges

2231
01:13:13,383 --> 01:13:15,666
all these things.  We're

2232
01:13:14,533 --> 01:13:18,533
legislating in real time.  It

2233
01:13:15,766 --> 01:13:20,100
makes it difficult for all of

2234
01:13:18,733 --> 01:13:21,533
this.  And I know there's a lot

2235
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,200
of energy around this right now.

2236
01:13:21,866 --> 01:13:26,300
I think I would recommend the

2237
01:13:23,300 --> 01:13:29,366
body give us 10 minutes to go

2238
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,866
merge those so there's a clear

2239
01:13:29,466 --> 01:13:32,333
single document in front of you.

2240
01:13:30,966 --> 01:13:34,200
we can move on to other

2241
01:13:32,433 --> 01:13:35,933
business, or if you want to body

2242
01:13:34,300 --> 01:13:37,533
the wishes to take a recess to

2243
01:13:36,033 --> 01:13:38,500
allow the clerks to produce the

2244
01:13:37,633 --> 01:13:39,700
single combined document.

2245
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,500
either of those, I think, would

2246
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:44,833
be a better process for us.  So

2247
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:46,566
there's clarity for everyone on

2248
01:13:44,933 --> 01:13:46,733
the dais what's in front of

2249
01:13:46,666 --> 01:13:48,866
you.

2250
01:13:47,266 --> 01:13:50,166
» That's helpful for me.  But

2251
01:13:48,966 --> 01:13:52,300
it's the will of the body.

2252
01:13:50,266 --> 01:13:53,533
» We can take -- I would

2253
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,866
recommend tabling this.  And

2254
01:13:53,633 --> 01:13:57,533
revisiting it once the clerks

2255
01:13:55,966 --> 01:13:58,800
come back prepared.  And we can

2256
01:13:57,633 --> 01:14:00,800
move on to the next committee

2257
01:13:58,900 --> 01:14:02,266
report.  Does that sound --

2258
01:14:00,900 --> 01:14:03,300
» Yeah.  I'll pass it over to

2259
01:14:02,366 --> 01:14:05,800
the city attorney.

2260
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,966
» If council president.  Sorry.

2261
01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:08,833
just for point of

2262
01:14:07,066 --> 01:14:10,216
clarification.  I'm betting I'm

2263
01:14:08,933 --> 01:14:11,766
going to be helping with this,

2264
01:14:10,333 --> 01:14:16,700
too.  The only thing, you know,

2265
01:14:11,866 --> 01:14:20,233
it's easy to add things.  What

2266
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:21,300
50i'm confused about is in

2267
01:14:20,333 --> 01:14:23,566
one version, the bullet point

2268
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,266
that says design modification to

2269
01:14:23,933 --> 01:14:26,533
the propose the meetings to

2270
01:14:25,366 --> 01:14:28,133
ensure driveway access and

2271
01:14:26,633 --> 01:14:32,566
business operational leads one

2272
01:14:30,166 --> 01:14:33,366
is struck.  In one version.  In

2273
01:14:32,666 --> 01:14:35,233
the other version it's not

2274
01:14:33,466 --> 01:14:38,766
struck.  In terms of the clerk

2275
01:14:35,333 --> 01:14:40,033
and I trying to come to one

2276
01:14:38,866 --> 01:14:44,266
document, should we be striking

2277
01:14:40,133 --> 01:14:44,566
that bullet point or not?

2278
01:14:44,366 --> 01:14:47,033
» Correct.

2279
01:14:44,833 --> 01:14:48,933
» Can I make a point of order

2280
01:14:47,133 --> 01:14:51,100
and potentially a suggestion for

2281
01:14:49,033 --> 01:14:51,933
us how to handle it?

2282
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:55,000
» Council member chowdhury.

2283
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,433
» Thank you.  If it makes it

2284
01:14:55,100 --> 01:15:01,200
easier for the body, what we

2285
01:14:57,866 --> 01:15:02,966
could do is if there is noobjece

2286
01:15:01,300 --> 01:15:05,466
object if there is.  We can take

2287
01:15:03,066 --> 01:15:08,100
up my motion first.  Which the

2288
01:15:05,566 --> 01:15:10,300
only change is my addition and

2289
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:13,500
it keeps the integrity of what

2290
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:18,066
we did in c & I.  And then we

2291
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:23,133
take up the stevenson amendment.

2292
01:15:18,166 --> 01:15:23,900
would that work?

2293
01:15:23,633 --> 01:15:25,033
» Mr. Clerk?

2294
01:15:24,266 --> 01:15:25,900
» I think that was a question

2295
01:15:25,133 --> 01:15:30,066
for the body.

2296
01:15:28,233 --> 01:15:31,966
» Oh.

2297
01:15:30,366 --> 01:15:33,466
» It was largely a question for

2298
01:15:32,066 --> 01:15:34,316
the clerks and the cy attorney

2299
01:15:33,566 --> 01:15:36,533
in terms o your clarity.

2300
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,466
» Oh.  I think if you

2301
01:15:36,633 --> 01:15:39,866
you're asking the clerks.  I

2302
01:15:37,566 --> 01:15:41,000
think the attorney can prepare a

2303
01:15:39,966 --> 01:15:42,700
document.  I think the claty

2304
01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:46,066
is on the item that's either in

2305
01:15:44,133 --> 01:15:47,866
or stricken what does the body

2306
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,366
want do they want the design

2307
01:15:47,966 --> 01:15:51,233
modifications to the proposed

2308
01:15:49,466 --> 01:15:52,100
medians to ensure driver access

2309
01:15:51,333 --> 01:15:54,400
and business operational needs

2310
01:15:52,233 --> 01:15:55,000
to be in or out of the combined

2311
01:15:54,500 --> 01:15:58,766
version of the resolution.

2312
01:15:55,200 --> 01:16:01,766
» Got it.  And as the author of

2313
01:15:58,866 --> 01:16:06,366
the second amendment, it's my

2314
01:16:01,866 --> 01:16:07,733
intention for it to be in

2315
01:16:06,466 --> 01:16:08,333
alignment with council member

2316
01:16:07,833 --> 01:16:10,166
stevenson's amendment.

2317
01:16:08,433 --> 01:16:11,566
» Which is the direction, I

2318
01:16:10,266 --> 01:16:13,633
think council president you

2319
01:16:11,666 --> 01:16:14,750
said.  To strike that out of the

2320
01:16:13,733 --> 01:16:15,783
resolution.  That clarifies that

2321
01:16:14,850 --> 01:16:17,150
one issue.  If that's the

2322
01:16:15,883 --> 01:16:19,150
direction of the body.  Then I

2323
01:16:17,250 --> 01:16:19,983
think the people can go draft

2324
01:16:19,250 --> 01:16:20,933
that quickly.

2325
01:16:20,083 --> 01:16:24,933
» Okay.  Let's have that

2326
01:16:21,033 --> 01:16:32,100
happen.  And then we'll move on

2327
01:16:25,133 --> 01:16:35,600
to the committee of the whole.

2328
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:38,466
and that will be give by the

2329
01:16:35,700 --> 01:16:41,233
chair, council member chowdhury.

2330
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:44,833
» Thank you, president payne.

2331
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:46,466
of the committee of the whole is

2332
01:16:44,933 --> 01:16:48,433
bringing three items forward.

2333
01:16:46,566 --> 01:16:49,266
one is a resolution expressing

2334
01:16:48,533 --> 01:16:51,700
solidarity with workers at

2335
01:16:49,366 --> 01:16:53,133
target field.  Two is an

2336
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:57,766
amplified sound permit and block

2337
01:16:53,233 --> 01:16:59,500
event permit for the aquatennial

2338
01:16:57,866 --> 01:17:01,300
festival.  And three is

2339
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,633
allocation of funds from the

2340
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:05,033
affordable housing trust fund to

2341
01:17:02,733 --> 01:17:06,466
be given to heritage park for

2342
01:17:05,133 --> 01:17:08,900
repairs.  This was sent forward

2343
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:11,700
without recommendation.  With

2344
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,666
that, I'll move all items for

2345
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:16,966
approval and three for a

2346
01:17:12,766 --> 01:17:19,366
separate vote and discussion.

2347
01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:21,900
» Council member chowdhury has

2348
01:17:19,466 --> 01:17:23,166
moved approval of the committee

2349
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,200
report separating out three.

2350
01:17:23,266 --> 01:17:25,466
any discussion?  Council member

2351
01:17:25,300 --> 01:17:27,133
rainville.

2352
01:17:25,566 --> 01:17:29,866
» Thank you.  I would like to

2353
01:17:27,233 --> 01:17:32,066
speak briefly to item number

2354
01:17:29,966 --> 01:17:34,200
one.  In support of this as a

2355
01:17:32,166 --> 01:17:36,200
past member of local 17.  I

2356
01:17:34,300 --> 01:17:37,933
served on the executive

2357
01:17:36,300 --> 01:17:41,766
committee for a number of years

2358
01:17:39,133 --> 01:17:43,433
as a shop steward.  I would be

2359
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:45,500
out on the strike line, if I was

2360
01:17:43,533 --> 01:17:47,933
still doing that for a living.

2361
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:51,100
instead of being up here.  So I

2362
01:17:48,033 --> 01:17:52,566
think we all should support

2363
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,900
those workers as they engage in

2364
01:17:52,666 --> 01:17:56,000
their fight.  Especially for the

2365
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:58,333
health care portion.

2366
01:17:56,333 --> 01:18:02,000
» Seeing no one else left, I'll

2367
01:17:58,433 --> 01:18:02,500
ask the clerk to call the roll

2368
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:03,466
items one and two.

2369
01:18:02,766 --> 01:18:03,833
» Council member chaz.

2370
01:18:03,700 --> 01:18:04,900
» Aye.

2371
01:18:04,166 --> 01:18:05,116
» Warren.

2372
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,100
» Aye.

2373
01:18:05,433 --> 01:18:06,666
» Shaffer.

2374
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:07,133
» Aye.

2375
01:18:06,766 --> 01:18:07,833
» Wonsley.

2376
01:18:07,700 --> 01:18:08,500
» Aye.

2377
01:18:08,300 --> 01:18:09,866
» Whiting.

2378
01:18:08,866 --> 01:18:10,200
» Aye.

2379
01:18:09,966 --> 01:18:10,600
» Chowdhury.

2380
01:18:10,466 --> 01:18:11,500
» Aye.

2381
01:18:11,266 --> 01:18:12,833
» Stevenson.

2382
01:18:12,266 --> 01:18:13,633
» Aye.

2383
01:18:12,933 --> 01:18:13,866
» Rainville.

2384
01:18:13,733 --> 01:18:14,433
» Aye.

2385
01:18:13,983 --> 01:18:15,533
» Vetaw.

2386
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:16,600
» Aye.

2387
01:18:15,900 --> 01:18:16,833
» Palmisano.

2388
01:18:16,700 --> 01:18:17,466
» Aye.

2389
01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:17,933
» Vice president osman.

2390
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:18,666
» Aye.

2391
01:18:18,333 --> 01:18:19,366
» President payne.

2392
01:18:19,233 --> 01:18:20,233
» Aye.

2393
01:18:19,566 --> 01:18:22,666
» 12 ayes.

2394
01:18:21,500 --> 01:18:24,633
» Those items carry.  Next

2395
01:18:22,766 --> 01:18:25,566
we'll take up item number three

2396
01:18:24,733 --> 01:18:27,000
and I'll recognize council

2397
01:18:25,666 --> 01:18:30,233
member warren.

2398
01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:35,566
» Thank you, council president

2399
01:18:30,333 --> 01:18:40,733
payne.  It is my pleasure today

2400
01:18:35,900 --> 01:18:42,500
to have before you a request for

2401
01:18:41,366 --> 01:18:44,966
the $2.5 million from the

2402
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,500
affordable housing trust fund to

2403
01:18:45,066 --> 01:18:49,533
support the residents at

2404
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:52,766
heritage park.  I'm pleased to

2405
01:18:49,633 --> 01:18:53,600
work with the city of

2406
01:18:52,866 --> 01:18:56,033
minneapolis, director rachel

2407
01:18:53,700 --> 01:18:59,000
sayers on the relocation plans

2408
01:18:56,133 --> 01:19:04,200
if are the residents of heritage

2409
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:08,800
park.  This has been an ongoing

2410
01:19:04,300 --> 01:19:10,133
experience they have had there.

2411
01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:11,933
I'm glad to be able to be

2412
01:19:10,233 --> 01:19:14,233
getting some relief for the

2413
01:19:12,033 --> 01:19:16,900
residents.  And I want to keep

2414
01:19:14,333 --> 01:19:21,466
the focus on the residents at

2415
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:23,200
heritage park.  I want to,

2416
01:19:21,566 --> 01:19:26,266
first, thank you at this time

2417
01:19:23,300 --> 01:19:30,333
for that.  There's a motion that

2418
01:19:27,633 --> 01:19:32,900
is before you that is just

2419
01:19:30,433 --> 01:19:36,433
asking in this process.  Because

2420
01:19:33,066 --> 01:19:40,200
we know it's such a delicate

2421
01:19:36,533 --> 01:19:42,800
dance that is an amendment to

2422
01:19:40,300 --> 01:19:47,900
this asking that we move the

2423
01:19:43,100 --> 01:19:49,900
following legislative directive

2424
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,200
related to affordable housing

2425
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:56,300
trust fund for heritage park

2426
01:19:51,300 --> 01:19:57,733
that we are asking for regular

2427
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:01,033
scheduled reporting for the

2428
01:19:57,816 --> 01:20:02,266
progress of what is happening.

2429
01:20:01,133 --> 01:20:04,866
progress for the relocation of

2430
01:20:02,366 --> 01:20:08,433
the residents and information

2431
01:20:04,966 --> 01:20:11,300
related to the distributed funds

2432
01:20:08,533 --> 01:20:14,666
for rehabilitation.  I believe

2433
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:18,466
we -- correct me if I'm wrong.

2434
01:20:14,766 --> 01:20:20,366
yes, director hansen, please

2435
01:20:18,566 --> 01:20:24,466
forgive me.  They're not going

2436
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:26,766
to be funds distributed of this

2437
01:20:24,566 --> 01:20:27,133
specifically for rehabilitation.

2438
01:20:26,866 --> 01:20:27,866
correct?

2439
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,700
» Director?

2440
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,966
» President payne, council

2441
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:34,133
member warren.  The authority

2442
01:20:31,066 --> 01:20:37,966
that we are seeking allows for

2443
01:20:34,283 --> 01:20:40,700
us to put funding into both

2444
01:20:38,066 --> 01:20:42,633
relocati and emergency-like

2445
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,833
safety repairs within the

2446
01:20:42,733 --> 01:20:45,000
building.  As I mentioned at

2447
01:20:43,933 --> 01:20:46,133
committee of the whole on

2448
01:20:45,100 --> 01:20:48,366
tuesday, I'll repeat for those

2449
01:20:46,233 --> 01:20:51,800
that didn't watch it.  We are

2450
01:20:48,466 --> 01:20:52,533
focused on relocation efforts,

2451
01:20:51,900 --> 01:20:56,966
and that's, you know, we need

2452
01:20:52,633 --> 01:20:58,100
the ability for us to do

2453
01:20:57,066 --> 01:21:00,500
potential repair work in the

2454
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:02,433
event that while people are

2455
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,466
seeking relocation services, we

2456
01:21:02,533 --> 01:21:05,933
can address immediate needs.

2457
01:21:03,566 --> 01:21:07,400
that's the reason why we want

2458
01:21:07,133 --> 01:21:09,700
that authority.

2459
01:21:07,633 --> 01:21:12,766
» Okay.  Thank you so much for

2460
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:16,366
that, director h hansen.

2461
01:21:12,866 --> 01:21:20,000
there's a third piece to this

2462
01:21:16,466 --> 01:21:24,200
motion.  That is basically

2463
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:26,533
directing that the city

2464
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:28,133
attorney's legal analysis of

2465
01:21:26,633 --> 01:21:29,800
pathways for availability for

2466
01:21:28,233 --> 01:21:31,600
the city to recoup the funds.

2467
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,700
I'm not interested in that right

2468
01:21:31,700 --> 01:21:35,166
now.  I think that's something

2469
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:37,533
that can be taken up at another

2470
01:21:35,266 --> 01:21:40,300
time.  And I'm just specifically

2471
01:21:37,933 --> 01:21:42,233
focused on the residents, the

2472
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,466
relocation plan, and ensuring

2473
01:21:42,333 --> 01:21:47,033
the stabilization of the

2474
01:21:44,566 --> 01:21:48,566
residents at heritage park.

2475
01:21:47,133 --> 01:21:50,266
anything that has to do with any

2476
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,600
financial recouping can be taken

2477
01:21:50,366 --> 01:21:52,866
up some other time.  That's not

2478
01:21:51,700 --> 01:21:54,933
my concern at this time.  My

2479
01:21:52,966 --> 01:21:57,000
concern is the residents and I

2480
01:21:55,033 --> 01:21:59,333
thank you for your due diligence

2481
01:21:57,516 --> 01:22:02,100
in that.

2482
01:21:59,633 --> 01:22:07,000
» Council member wonsley.

2483
01:22:02,533 --> 01:22:09,800
» Thank you, president payne.

2484
01:22:07,100 --> 01:22:11,166
I want to, first, as I did on

2485
01:22:09,900 --> 01:22:12,533
tuesday, give kudos to council

2486
01:22:11,266 --> 01:22:15,233
member warren for h leadership

2487
01:22:12,633 --> 01:22:17,900
on this issue.  We've been clear

2488
01:22:15,333 --> 01:22:21,100
across the board that inhumane

2489
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:23,000
conditions are something we

2490
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,833
should not be normalizing.  It's

2491
01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:26,733
devastating your residents had

2492
01:22:23,933 --> 01:22:29,600
to endure that.  That said, I

2493
01:22:26,933 --> 01:22:30,733
want to say, we all have robust

2494
01:22:29,833 --> 01:22:33,466
conversations around, one,

2495
01:22:30,833 --> 01:22:37,633
wanting to support this

2496
01:22:33,566 --> 01:22:38,566
$.5 million allocation.  I think

2497
01:22:37,733 --> 01:22:40,133
there there will be unanimous

2498
01:22:38,666 --> 01:22:41,466
support of moving that item

2499
01:22:40,233 --> 01:22:43,533
forward.  Where we wanted to

2500
01:22:41,566 --> 01:22:44,433
make sure that there's some

2501
01:22:43,633 --> 01:22:46,100
continued conversation amongst

2502
01:22:44,533 --> 01:22:49,500
the body because we were asked

2503
01:22:47,133 --> 01:22:51,600
to approve $2.5 million within

2504
01:22:49,933 --> 01:22:53,633
48 hours of consideration is to

2505
01:22:51,700 --> 01:22:55,000
make sure that we have regular

2506
01:22:53,733 --> 01:22:56,933
reportinfrom the

2507
01:22:55,100 --> 01:22:58,833
administration on how the

2508
01:22:57,033 --> 01:23:00,933
relocation process is proceeding

2509
01:22:58,933 --> 01:23:03,633
forward.  How the stabilization

2510
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,533
plans that this contract or the

2511
01:23:03,733 --> 01:23:07,333
rca we're considering gives

2512
01:23:05,633 --> 01:23:08,933
director hansen the ability to

2513
01:23:07,433 --> 01:23:11,266
figure out in partnership with

2514
01:23:09,033 --> 01:23:11,866
all the relevant entities and

2515
01:23:11,366 --> 01:23:14,833
stakeholders essentially come

2516
01:23:11,966 --> 01:23:16,433
back to this body and give us

2517
01:23:14,933 --> 01:23:17,566
reporting on how that process is

2518
01:23:16,533 --> 01:23:19,533
moving forward.  Because we

2519
01:23:17,666 --> 01:23:20,600
don't want to be in another

2520
01:23:19,633 --> 01:23:21,966
situation where we might have to

2521
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:24,133
move additional dollars and have

2522
01:23:22,266 --> 01:23:27,666
no information about what took

2523
01:23:24,233 --> 01:23:29,533
place with the first allocation.

2524
01:23:27,766 --> 01:23:31,200
that segues into the second

2525
01:23:29,633 --> 01:23:33,133
motion before you.  Where it

2526
01:23:31,300 --> 01:23:35,933
does request the city attorney

2527
01:23:33,316 --> 01:23:37,433
to present council with a client

2528
01:23:36,033 --> 01:23:40,133
privileged memo.  So essentially

2529
01:23:37,533 --> 01:23:42,200
this is pretty standard process

2530
01:23:40,233 --> 01:23:44,433
where the city attorney will

2531
01:23:42,300 --> 01:23:49,600
tell us what ways in which they

2532
01:23:44,666 --> 01:23:50,266
can recoup the $2.5 million.  We

2533
01:23:49,700 --> 01:23:52,366
had robust conversations about

2534
01:23:50,366 --> 01:23:54,733
that on tuesday, as well.  Why

2535
01:23:52,466 --> 01:23:55,900
aren't we moving through the

2536
01:23:54,833 --> 01:23:57,266
existing tenant relocation

2537
01:23:56,133 --> 01:23:59,100
program allowing us to recoup

2538
01:23:57,366 --> 01:24:01,433
coasts.  Especially when the

2539
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:04,800
whole overarching thing of this

2540
01:24:01,533 --> 01:24:07,600
debate has been the partners

2541
01:24:05,233 --> 01:24:09,333
property owners, sev

2542
01:24:07,700 --> 01:24:15,200
receivers.  There's failures of

2543
01:24:09,433 --> 01:24:15,866
agency charm charged with

2544
01:24:15,300 --> 01:24:18,900
holding responsibility and

2545
01:24:15,966 --> 01:24:20,366
failed to meet the standards.

2546
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,700
if we're going to give the

2547
01:24:20,466 --> 01:24:24,900
partners $2.5 million, we need

2548
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:27,766
to make sure that this is not

2549
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,766
just a freebie.  We have

2550
01:24:27,866 --> 01:24:33,100
mechanisms to hold a property

2551
01:24:28,933 --> 01:24:33,966
owner that has received not only

2552
01:24:33,500 --> 01:24:35,866
market-rate income, because

2553
01:24:34,133 --> 01:24:37,366
there are market-rate units

2554
01:24:35,966 --> 01:24:40,433
here.  They're receiving income.

2555
01:24:37,466 --> 01:24:41,233
they have received mas

2556
01:24:40,533 --> 01:24:42,233
massive subsidies from

2557
01:24:41,333 --> 01:24:43,633
government agencies, as well.

2558
01:24:42,333 --> 01:24:45,700
we don't want to make sure that

2559
01:24:43,966 --> 01:24:48,333
we're rewarding a problem

2560
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:50,400
property owner with $2.5 million

2561
01:24:48,433 --> 01:24:52,166
and not have any means to try to

2562
01:24:50,500 --> 01:24:55,366
recoup those costs.  Especially

2563
01:24:52,266 --> 01:24:57,500
since we're taking th this

2564
01:24:55,466 --> 01:24:59,500
from the affordable housing

2565
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,933
trust.  We have made significant

2566
01:24:59,633 --> 01:25:02,100
cu to it already.  I think in

2567
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,000
a financial predicament where

2568
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,633
we're at as a city, we're

2569
01:25:04,733 --> 01:25:06,900
already $30 million in a

2570
01:25:05,733 --> 01:25:08,633
deficit.  We want to make sure

2571
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:11,633
that we're able to recoup costs

2572
01:25:08,733 --> 01:25:12,900
by any means.  And if that

2573
01:25:11,733 --> 01:25:16,166
entails the city attorney

2574
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:17,433
writing us a four or five or

2575
01:25:16,266 --> 01:25:20,700
six-page memo articulating their

2576
01:25:17,533 --> 01:25:21,966
plans to do so.  That's not a

2577
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,633
heavy lift.  I think it's worth

2578
01:25:22,066 --> 01:25:27,133
our due diligence.  I'll make

2579
01:25:23,733 --> 01:25:28,466
the motion to move all items as

2580
01:25:27,233 --> 01:25:29,466
amended for approval and ask for

2581
01:25:29,300 --> 01:25:30,500
a second.

2582
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,133
» Second.

2583
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:35,000
» Second.

2584
01:25:31,533 --> 01:25:37,566
» And with that, I'm so excited

2585
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:37,800
to support this comprehensive

2586
01:25:37,666 --> 01:25:40,766
packet.

2587
01:25:38,633 --> 01:25:43,000
» Okay.  Council member wonsley

2588
01:25:40,866 --> 01:25:45,333
moved all items for approval.

2589
01:25:43,100 --> 01:25:47,566
it's been seconded.  So let me

2590
01:25:45,433 --> 01:25:49,433
just clarify what we have in

2591
01:25:47,666 --> 01:25:52,200
front of us.  We have the

2592
01:25:49,533 --> 01:25:55,133
underlying motion, which we took

2593
01:25:52,300 --> 01:25:57,033
up in c.o.w.  It has three sub

2594
01:25:55,233 --> 01:25:59,100
bullets under it.  The motion

2595
01:25:57,133 --> 01:26:02,933
that council member wonsley made

2596
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:05,933
was to add a sub bullet 3.4, the

2597
01:26:03,033 --> 01:26:10,433
legislative directive on

2598
01:26:06,033 --> 01:26:11,733
reporting.  And 3.5, which is a

2599
01:26:10,533 --> 01:26:13,866
staff direction to the city

2600
01:26:11,966 --> 01:26:16,533
attorney's office around recoup.

2601
01:26:14,133 --> 01:26:19,100
a motion to this, city

2602
01:26:16,633 --> 01:26:22,466
attorney, to bring forward

2603
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:23,466
privileged memo on how we might

2604
01:26:22,566 --> 01:26:26,733
recoup expenses.  And I see

2605
01:26:24,166 --> 01:26:28,733
council member warren raising a

2606
01:26:26,833 --> 01:26:30,266
question.

2607
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:32,066
» Correct.  I would like a

2608
01:26:30,366 --> 01:26:37,700
separate vote on 3.5.  As I

2609
01:26:32,333 --> 01:26:39,300
stated before, this is not about

2610
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:42,800
that.  If we want to the make it

2611
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:44,266
about that.  We'll have to

2612
01:26:42,900 --> 01:26:46,166
ask -- to bring his happy body

2613
01:26:44,466 --> 01:26:48,166
to the table.  He neglected to

2614
01:26:46,266 --> 01:26:50,833
do so.  The majority of the

2615
01:26:48,266 --> 01:26:52,500
residents there at heritage park

2616
01:26:51,133 --> 01:26:55,900
are participants of minneapolis

2617
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:57,700
public housing authority.  And

2618
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,700
until he does his damn job,

2619
01:26:58,233 --> 01:27:01,466
there is no questions to be

2620
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,733
asked to anybody about

2621
01:27:01,566 --> 01:27:04,533
absolutely anything.  And what

2622
01:27:02,833 --> 01:27:07,000
he needs to do is then start

2623
01:27:04,766 --> 01:27:08,533
issuing people not only back

2624
01:27:07,100 --> 01:27:10,216
whatever it was that was lost,

2625
01:27:08,633 --> 01:27:12,316
but their section 8 vouchers,

2626
01:27:10,316 --> 01:27:14,350
handled, what's going on with

2627
01:27:12,416 --> 01:27:16,150
me, and my residents and the

2628
01:27:14,450 --> 01:27:17,416
city office.  We're working with

2629
01:27:16,250 --> 01:27:19,483
the emergency management system.

2630
01:27:17,516 --> 01:27:21,183
we're working with our systems.

2631
01:27:19,583 --> 01:27:23,816
we're taking the lead.  Because

2632
01:27:21,683 --> 01:27:25,650
we are leaders of this city.

2633
01:27:23,916 --> 01:27:27,183
these are our residents.  The

2634
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:29,183
end of that.  That's how that's

2635
01:27:27,283 --> 01:27:31,650
going to be handled.  We're not

2636
01:27:30,416 --> 01:27:33,383
putting any extra slide and

2637
01:27:31,750 --> 01:27:34,983
signal on whatever else that's

2638
01:27:33,483 --> 01:27:36,383
happening.  I don't want to hear

2639
01:27:35,083 --> 01:27:37,750
anything more about it.  That's

2640
01:27:36,483 --> 01:27:40,983
the end of it.  So the second

2641
01:27:38,083 --> 01:27:43,683
vote on that 3.5 or whatever

2642
01:27:41,083 --> 01:27:47,316
with respect to the 2.5 that is

2643
01:27:43,783 --> 01:27:48,883
being utilized to serve my

2644
01:27:47,416 --> 01:27:53,316
underserved residents in ward

2645
01:27:48,983 --> 01:27:54,916
five, in h heritage park is a

2646
01:27:53,650 --> 01:27:56,116
no on that.  The end.

2647
01:27:55,016 --> 01:27:57,383
» What I'm going to recommend

2648
01:27:56,216 --> 01:27:58,583
based on the feedback, council

2649
01:27:57,483 --> 01:28:00,083
member.  We take up each of

2650
01:27:58,683 --> 01:28:03,550
these as separate votes.  So

2651
01:28:00,183 --> 01:28:04,616
we'll vote on 3.4, we'll vote on

2652
01:28:03,650 --> 01:28:06,583
3.5, and then based on the

2653
01:28:04,716 --> 01:28:08,016
outcome of that, we'll take the

2654
01:28:06,683 --> 01:28:10,483
final vote on the full package.

2655
01:28:08,116 --> 01:28:10,916
does that make sense to

2656
01:28:10,583 --> 01:28:12,050
everyone?

2657
01:28:11,016 --> 01:28:13,616
» I have a question.  I see

2658
01:28:12,150 --> 01:28:15,816
council member warren is listed

2659
01:28:13,716 --> 01:28:17,083
as an author on the motion.  If

2660
01:28:15,950 --> 01:28:18,250
she's withdrawing her motion --

2661
01:28:17,416 --> 01:28:21,850
» I'm not an author.

2662
01:28:18,433 --> 01:28:22,483
» Oh.  Your name is on ...

2663
01:28:21,933 --> 01:28:22,983
» I'm not anymore.

2664
01:28:22,650 --> 01:28:23,683
» Oka

2665
01:28:23,083 --> 01:28:26,450
» The end.

2666
01:28:23,983 --> 01:28:33,816
» All right.  Thank you.

2667
01:28:28,483 --> 01:28:34,650
» Right now item 3.4, the

2668
01:28:33,916 --> 01:28:35,983
legislative directive on

2669
01:28:34,733 --> 01:28:39,416
reporting.  That will be the

2670
01:28:36,083 --> 01:28:43,483
vote that we take.  The queue is

2671
01:28:39,516 --> 01:28:45,583
for the underlying motion.  I

2672
01:28:43,583 --> 01:28:48,616
see it.  Once we go to roll

2673
01:28:45,683 --> 01:28:49,116
call, we'll take up 3.4.  I'll

2674
01:28:48,716 --> 01:28:49,383
recognize council member

2675
01:28:49,216 --> 01:28:51,016
chowdhury.

2676
01:28:49,483 --> 01:28:54,616
» Thank you, president payne.

2677
01:28:51,116 --> 01:28:55,383
really appreciate it.  And I'll

2678
01:28:54,716 --> 01:28:57,716
just say with the different

2679
01:28:55,483 --> 01:29:00,616
motions we have, I feel like

2680
01:28:57,816 --> 01:29:01,750
just giving grace to everybodyhi

2681
01:29:00,716 --> 01:29:05,450
don't think anyone is trying to

2682
01:29:02,083 --> 01:29:07,250
step on anyone's toes.  I think

2683
01:29:05,550 --> 01:29:10,716
things are shifting quickly,

2684
01:29:07,350 --> 01:29:11,983
like, we had o motion with the

2685
01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:14,716
legislative directive.  And then

2686
01:29:12,083 --> 01:29:15,883
under the direction of the city

2687
01:29:14,816 --> 01:29:17,750
attorney, we weren't able to

2688
01:29:15,983 --> 01:29:19,216
have a piece of it in the

2689
01:29:17,850 --> 01:29:21,183
legislative directive.  And so

2690
01:29:19,316 --> 01:29:23,033
it then turned  generated into

2691
01:29:21,283 --> 01:29:26,183
a third motion.  And that's kind

2692
01:29:23,150 --> 01:29:29,350
of where we are and that's why

2693
01:29:26,283 --> 01:29:33,516
the authorship has remained

2694
01:29:29,450 --> 01:29:34,783
same.  I want to provide the

2695
01:29:33,616 --> 01:29:36,516
clarity up front and give

2696
01:29:34,866 --> 01:29:38,783
everyone a lot of grace here.

2697
01:29:36,616 --> 01:29:42,150
one of the things that I wanted

2698
01:29:40,850 --> 01:29:43,350
to ask about in with respect to

2699
01:29:42,250 --> 01:29:44,750
the conversations with council

2700
01:29:43,450 --> 01:29:45,950
member warren and her office and

2701
01:29:44,983 --> 01:29:51,416
the concern for the people at

2702
01:29:46,050 --> 01:29:53,750
heritage park.  Is regarding

2703
01:29:51,516 --> 01:29:54,683
relocation of people and the 2.5

2704
01:29:53,850 --> 01:29:57,250
we'll contribute to it.  I want

2705
01:29:55,516 --> 01:30:00,250
to get an understanding one,

2706
01:29:57,383 --> 01:30:02,416
wh's the division of that

2707
01:30:00,350 --> 01:30:03,583
money for rehabilitation of the

2708
01:30:02,516 --> 01:30:05,250
building.  And how much is going

2709
01:30:03,683 --> 01:30:08,883
to relocation?  And then I also

2710
01:30:05,350 --> 01:30:10,016
see that we have emergency

2711
01:30:08,983 --> 01:30:12,216
management director sayer here

2712
01:30:10,116 --> 01:30:14,116
with us.  I want to see, like,

2713
01:30:12,316 --> 01:30:15,850
what kind of steps your

2714
01:30:14,216 --> 01:30:18,783
department is going to take to

2715
01:30:15,950 --> 01:30:20,816
help the people relocate.  I'm

2716
01:30:18,883 --> 01:30:22,750
concerned about having a

2717
01:30:20,950 --> 01:30:26,016
dignified process especially

2718
01:30:22,850 --> 01:30:27,916
right now in this very poor air

2719
01:30:26,116 --> 01:30:29,483
quality situation and heat wave.

2720
01:30:28,016 --> 01:30:31,450
I'm also wondering if we're

2721
01:30:29,583 --> 01:30:33,716
going to need to get additional

2722
01:30:31,550 --> 01:30:34,716
support from partners like the

2723
01:30:33,816 --> 01:30:39,250
red cross and just kind of what

2724
01:30:34,983 --> 01:30:40,750
it looks like.  Because moving

2725
01:30:39,350 --> 01:30:43,950
686 people all at once seems

2726
01:30:40,850 --> 01:30:44,916
like a really huge feat.  I

2727
01:30:44,050 --> 01:30:53,683
would imagine there's going to

2728
01:30:45,016 --> 01:30:56,750
be a lot of steps to that.

2729
01:30:53,783 --> 01:30:58,016
director has been

2730
01:30:56,850 --> 01:30:58,616
hansen, do you want to answer

2731
01:30:58,100 --> 01:31:00,516
the first part?

2732
01:30:58,783 --> 01:31:00,716
» We can start with director

2733
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:04,916
sayer.

2734
01:31:01,716 --> 01:31:05,350
» Director say yo sayer.

2735
01:31:05,016 --> 01:31:07,183
all right.

2736
01:31:05,583 --> 01:31:08,583
» Good morning.  Director

2737
01:31:07,283 --> 01:31:10,050
hansen asked me to commune kate

2738
01:31:08,683 --> 01:31:10,750
on the split of funding.

2739
01:31:10,150 --> 01:31:15,116
something determined through the

2740
01:31:10,850 --> 01:31:16,316
pro process that we're

2741
01:31:15,216 --> 01:31:20,416
running.  I'll speak about the

2742
01:31:16,416 --> 01:31:22,350
process. Noting that council

2743
01:31:20,516 --> 01:31:25,483
member warren absolutely want to

2744
01:31:22,450 --> 01:31:27,516
work through the thing with you.

2745
01:31:25,783 --> 01:31:28,950
I know we haven't had time to

2746
01:31:27,616 --> 01:31:30,283
connect in person since I came

2747
01:31:29,050 --> 01:31:32,316
in yesterday.  I look forward to

2748
01:31:30,383 --> 01:31:35,483
that.  Let me talk about how

2749
01:31:32,416 --> 01:31:36,716
this process works.

2750
01:31:35,583 --> 01:31:38,150
yesterday we stood up something

2751
01:31:36,816 --> 01:31:40,316
called a heritage park

2752
01:31:38,983 --> 01:31:42,416
coordination gup.  That will

2753
01:31:40,416 --> 01:31:44,150
consist of operational staff

2754
01:31:42,516 --> 01:31:45,950
across city departments as well

2755
01:31:44,483 --> 01:31:49,350
as partnerse've already pulle

2756
01:31:46,116 --> 01:31:54,183
in for calls like r red cross.

2757
01:31:49,650 --> 01:31:58,683
it includes coordination with

2758
01:31:54,283 --> 01:31:59,583
mpha.  We are using our national

2759
01:31:58,783 --> 01:32:02,416
incident management syste

2760
01:31:59,683 --> 01:32:04,850
protocols as the basis for this

2761
01:32:02,850 --> 01:32:07,850
structure.  What that means, it

2762
01:32:04,950 --> 01:32:09,083
brings into place regular

2763
01:32:07,950 --> 01:32:11,616
meetings, regular coordination

2764
01:32:09,183 --> 01:32:13,916
calls, and regular reporting.

2765
01:32:11,716 --> 01:32:15,283
so you will see all of that

2766
01:32:14,016 --> 01:32:22,283
start to come through in the

2767
01:32:15,383 --> 01:32:24,850
next few days.  As we get staff

2768
01:32:22,483 --> 01:32:26,750
to be dedicated to the party

2769
01:32:24,950 --> 01:32:28,216
effort.  Our first objective is

2770
01:32:26,950 --> 01:32:29,633
meeting urgent needs of

2771
01:32:28,316 --> 01:32:30,450
residents.  So this is

2772
01:32:29,750 --> 01:32:32,116
absolutely something I want to

2773
01:32:30,550 --> 01:32:33,616
sit down with council member

2774
01:32:32,216 --> 01:32:34,516
warren and understand immediate

2775
01:32:33,716 --> 01:32:36,283
needs that have been

2776
01:32:34,783 --> 01:32:38,716
communicated to her and her

2777
01:32:36,650 --> 01:32:41,316
team.  My team is already

2778
01:32:38,816 --> 01:32:42,450
working on options for meeting

2779
01:32:41,416 --> 01:32:44,350
urgent needs.  What it could

2780
01:32:42,550 --> 01:32:46,850
look like.  While we work on

2781
01:32:44,450 --> 01:32:49,283
potential plans for relocation.

2782
01:32:47,316 --> 01:32:49,983
so, the plans for relocation,

2783
01:32:49,383 --> 01:32:51,983
council member, as you

2784
01:32:50,083 --> 01:32:53,616
mentioned.  It's large-scale.

2785
01:32:52,083 --> 01:32:56,483
it's beyond the capacity of any

2786
01:32:53,716 --> 01:32:59,716
one agency to do.  So absolutely

2787
01:32:56,583 --> 01:33:00,950
the county is a huge partner in

2788
01:32:59,816 --> 01:33:02,016
this, as well.  As well as many

2789
01:33:01,050 --> 01:33:04,383
other agencies that we're

2790
01:33:02,150 --> 01:33:06,183
lling in.  So there's a lot

2791
01:33:04,483 --> 01:33:09,483
more to come.  Just to note, our

2792
01:33:06,283 --> 01:33:16,116
immediate focus is on the urgent

2793
01:33:09,583 --> 01:33:18,250
needs.  Thank you, director, I

2794
01:33:18,183 --> 01:33:19,583
.

2795
01:33:18,350 --> 01:33:20,816
» Thank you, director.  I

2796
01:33:19,683 --> 01:33:21,616
appreciate it.  We'll see how

2797
01:33:20,916 --> 01:33:25,316
the conversation continues on

2798
01:33:21,716 --> 01:33:27,783
the item.  I do believe 100%

2799
01:33:25,416 --> 01:33:31,616
this is about the residents here

2800
01:33:27,883 --> 01:33:34,250
and supporting the fourth ward.

2801
01:33:31,716 --> 01:33:36,283
I'll share the reason --

2802
01:33:34,350 --> 01:33:39,483
apologies, fifth ward.

2803
01:33:36,383 --> 01:33:43,516
supporting the fifth ward.  And

2804
01:33:39,583 --> 01:33:44,716
heritage park.  The reason why

2805
01:33:43,616 --> 01:33:46,650
I'm interested in furthering the

2806
01:33:44,816 --> 01:33:48,916
discussion o the motion for

2807
01:33:46,750 --> 01:33:50,583
request for information is, I

2808
01:33:49,016 --> 01:33:54,083
just don't -- I just feel like

2809
01:33:50,683 --> 01:33:57,816
it's a greatnjustice for a

2810
01:33:54,183 --> 01:33:59,016
very wealthy property owner to

2811
01:33:57,916 --> 01:34:08,316
lay so much negligence on to

2812
01:34:00,950 --> 01:34:12,383
this community.  And don't pay

2813
01:34:08,416 --> 01:34:14,583
the taxpayer dollars.  You owe

2814
01:34:12,483 --> 01:34:16,150
back people money in a lot more.

2815
01:34:14,916 --> 01:34:17,450
I think it's a part of what the

2816
01:34:16,250 --> 01:34:19,316
motion gets at.  I'm interested

2817
01:34:17,550 --> 01:34:21,416
in continuing the conversation

2818
01:34:19,416 --> 01:34:23,783
but wanted to give my thought in

2819
01:34:21,516 --> 01:34:25,216
real time as the discussion is

2820
01:34:23,883 --> 01:34:26,783
evolving.  And with respect to

2821
01:34:25,316 --> 01:34:32,883
your comments, council member

2822
01:34:26,883 --> 01:34:33,883
warren, as well.

2823
01:34:32,983 --> 01:34:35,216
» Council member chavez.

2824
01:34:33,983 --> 01:34:36,750
» Thank you.  I have a question

2825
01:34:35,316 --> 01:34:38,383
for clerks and the city

2826
01:34:36,850 --> 01:34:40,650
attorney's office.  Who has the

2827
01:34:38,483 --> 01:34:43,216
power of the purse?

2828
01:34:41,633 --> 01:34:45,816
» Madam city attorney?

2829
01:34:44,650 --> 01:34:49,050
» Ah, council president, it

2830
01:34:45,916 --> 01:34:50,616
sounds like a good attorney

2831
01:34:49,150 --> 01:34:51,383
leading question.  The city

2832
01:34:50,716 --> 01:34:51,583
council has the pour of the

2833
01:34:51,483 --> 01:34:52,816
purse.

2834
01:34:51,750 --> 01:34:54,250
» Thank you.

2835
01:34:53,416 --> 01:34:55,583
» Does an individual council

2836
01:34:54,350 --> 01:34:55,783
member have the power of the

2837
01:34:55,683 --> 01:34:59,050
purse.

2838
01:34:56,050 --> 01:35:00,150
» Ah, again, no.  The cncil

2839
01:34:59,283 --> 01:35:01,450
as a body.

2840
01:35:00,250 --> 01:35:03,583
» So as a body, we have the

2841
01:35:01,550 --> 01:35:04,150
power of the purse.  Not an

2842
01:35:03,683 --> 01:35:05,516
individual council member.

2843
01:35:04,250 --> 01:35:07,050
council member chowdhury,

2844
01:35:05,616 --> 01:35:10,116
council member wonsley, can you

2845
01:35:07,150 --> 01:35:11,216
please explain your motion.  My

2846
01:35:10,216 --> 01:35:12,683
understanding is that -- and

2847
01:35:11,316 --> 01:35:13,883
I'll read it for the public.

2848
01:35:12,783 --> 01:35:15,016
it's requesting the city

2849
01:35:13,983 --> 01:35:17,683
attorney's office for a legal

2850
01:35:15,116 --> 01:35:21,316
analysis of what pathways may be

2851
01:35:19,650 --> 01:35:23,483
or may be available for the city

2852
01:35:21,916 --> 01:35:24,616
of minneapolis recoup from the

2853
01:35:23,683 --> 01:35:26,016
appropriate entities, the city's

2854
01:35:24,716 --> 01:35:27,183
costs related to this.

2855
01:35:26,116 --> 01:35:28,583
» It's not a requirement of

2856
01:35:27,283 --> 01:35:29,083
saying it's a memo we're asking

2857
01:35:28,683 --> 01:35:34,116
for, correct.

2858
01:35:29,250 --> 01:35:35,216
» That is correct.  It's been

2859
01:35:34,216 --> 01:35:35,483
reviewed with the city

2860
01:35:35,316 --> 01:35:35,916
attorney.

2861
01:35:35,783 --> 01:35:37,250
» Yep.

2862
01:35:36,183 --> 01:35:39,533
» We've done it before when

2863
01:35:37,350 --> 01:35:41,916
we're asking or expanding

2864
01:35:39,650 --> 01:35:43,316
funding and wanting to now how

2865
01:35:42,016 --> 01:35:44,850
we can recoup the dollars back.

2866
01:35:43,583 --> 01:35:46,183
» Thank you.  There's asking

2867
01:35:44,950 --> 01:35:48,066
for a memo.  Nothing is

2868
01:35:46,283 --> 01:35:49,450
happening here.  Budget

2869
01:35:48,183 --> 01:35:52,616
director, can you let us know

2870
01:35:50,116 --> 01:35:53,683
what the current budget deficit

2871
01:35:52,716 --> 01:35:59,016
is heading into the exin year.

2872
01:35:56,416 --> 01:35:59,316
next year.

2873
01:35:59,116 --> 01:36:03,050
» Director.

2874
01:35:59,950 --> 01:36:10,850
» Chair payne, council member

2875
01:36:03,150 --> 01:36:15,116
chavez.  Deputy cfo, jane

2876
01:36:10,950 --> 01:36:17,016
jane I did zen disa.  The

2877
01:36:15,216 --> 01:36:19,616
current -- we gave a rake with

2878
01:36:17,116 --> 01:36:20,916
current expenses and reestated

2879
01:36:19,716 --> 01:36:21,150
revenues about $28 to $33

2880
01:36:21,016 --> 01:36:24,216
million.

2881
01:36:21,250 --> 01:36:27,450
» Thank you.  Who is getting

2882
01:36:24,316 --> 01:36:30,683
this $2.5 million.

2883
01:36:29,183 --> 01:36:31,616
» Through the chair, council

2884
01:36:30,783 --> 01:36:32,016
member I'm not sure if it's a

2885
01:36:31,716 --> 01:36:42,216
question for me.

2886
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:43,850
» Anybody.  .

2887
01:36:42,516 --> 01:36:44,883
» I believe the way it's

2888
01:36:43,950 --> 01:36:46,216
written.  I haven't been here

2889
01:36:44,983 --> 01:36:47,416
for the changes.  It's addressed

2890
01:36:46,316 --> 01:36:48,950
to the financial receiver or

2891
01:36:47,516 --> 01:36:50,650
other parties that may be needed

2892
01:36:49,050 --> 01:37:04,683
to assist with the relocation.

2893
01:36:50,750 --> 01:37:08,883
» Director h hansen.

2894
01:37:05,333 --> 01:37:09,983
» Discenza nailed it.  For the

2895
01:37:08,983 --> 01:37:11,416
relocation services and

2896
01:37:10,083 --> 01:37:14,116
relocation funders.  We'll be

2897
01:37:11,516 --> 01:37:15,816
working through the emergency

2898
01:37:14,216 --> 01:37:17,250
management process that directer

2899
01:37:15,916 --> 01:37:19,250
sayer mentioned.  Providing

2900
01:37:17,350 --> 01:37:20,883
resources for relocation.  So

2901
01:37:19,350 --> 01:37:24,450
that could be any organizations

2902
01:37:20,983 --> 01:37:25,683
like mpha, red cross, hennepin

2903
01:37:24,550 --> 01:37:50,816
county, other agencies that help

2904
01:37:25,783 --> 01:37:52,216
with relocation.   Far as if

2905
01:37:50,916 --> 01:37:55,516
there's any renovations needed

2906
01:37:52,383 --> 01:37:56,650
to related to the relocation.

2907
01:37:55,616 --> 01:37:59,316
that's acting as the owner for

2908
01:37:56,750 --> 01:38:00,016
the property at this point in

2909
01:37:59,416 --> 01:38:01,683
time.

2910
01:38:00,316 --> 01:38:03,183
» Thank you.  Yeah, so the

2911
01:38:01,950 --> 01:38:04,216
motion, at least, since I want

2912
01:38:03,283 --> 01:38:05,550
to talk about everything.  It's

2913
01:38:04,316 --> 01:38:06,816
so many votes happening.  At

2914
01:38:05,650 --> 01:38:09,650
least the motion I'm requesting

2915
01:38:06,916 --> 01:38:12,616
a them emp memo it

2916
01:38:09,750 --> 01:38:15,383
seems pragmatic and makes sense

2917
01:38:12,816 --> 01:38:16,616
to ask for a memo to potentially

2918
01:38:15,483 --> 01:38:17,983
recoup the cost, if it's going

2919
01:38:16,716 --> 01:38:20,316
to the receiver who has issues.

2920
01:38:18,850 --> 01:38:21,883
and has really made a big impact

2921
01:38:20,583 --> 01:38:23,716
to the residents in north

2922
01:38:21,983 --> 01:38:26,950
minneapolis at heritage park.

2923
01:38:23,816 --> 01:38:29,183
so I think we can -- if we're

2924
01:38:27,383 --> 01:38:30,716
giving away $2.5 million to the

2925
01:38:29,283 --> 01:38:31,783
receiver or those who harmed the

2926
01:38:30,816 --> 01:38:33,650
residents on our site.  I think

2927
01:38:32,216 --> 01:38:37,083
it makes sense to get a memo and

2928
01:38:33,750 --> 01:38:38,650
see how we could possibly recoup

2929
01:38:37,183 --> 01:38:39,983
the costs.  It's not required

2930
01:38:38,750 --> 01:38:41,850
to.  I think it makes sense

2931
01:38:40,083 --> 01:38:43,150
given the budget deficit.  If it

2932
01:38:41,950 --> 01:38:44,916
was rental assistance or the

2933
01:38:43,250 --> 01:38:46,383
money was going to the

2934
01:38:45,016 --> 01:38:49,550
residents, and cash is going to

2935
01:38:46,483 --> 01:38:50,083
the residents to help them with

2936
01:38:49,650 --> 01:38:51,750
their anti-displacement or

2937
01:38:50,183 --> 01:38:52,950
funding to move into a different

2938
01:38:51,850 --> 01:38:54,050
place.  That's a different

2939
01:38:53,050 --> 01:38:55,183
conversation.  I wouldn't be

2940
01:38:54,150 --> 01:38:56,416
interested in recouping the

2941
01:38:55,283 --> 01:38:57,183
cost.  If it's going to the

2942
01:38:56,516 --> 01:38:58,150
receiver, I think it's more

2943
01:38:57,283 --> 01:38:59,683
important we get the information

2944
01:38:58,250 --> 01:39:03,416
to see how we can recoup the

2945
01:38:59,783 --> 01:39:05,116
costs.  If it's going to those.

2946
01:39:03,516 --> 01:39:16,183
» Vice president osman.

2947
01:39:05,750 --> 01:39:18,183
» Thank you.  There's no amount

2948
01:39:16,283 --> 01:39:19,050
that can help our residents that

2949
01:39:18,283 --> 01:39:21,550
are struggling in the

2950
01:39:19,150 --> 01:39:22,650
conditions.  We've seen the

2951
01:39:21,650 --> 01:39:24,116
video council member warren

2952
01:39:22,750 --> 01:39:25,416
posted.  I feel like this is

2953
01:39:24,216 --> 01:39:27,616
a -- I wasn't here on tuesday.

2954
01:39:25,816 --> 01:39:34,416
my apologies.  My comment is

2955
01:39:27,716 --> 01:39:36,816
that the city department wh

2956
01:39:34,516 --> 01:39:39,683
who oversees rental licensing

2957
01:39:36,916 --> 01:39:42,966
has to do better.  We have

2958
01:39:39,783 --> 01:39:47,183
3-1-1.  We are letting this go

2959
01:39:43,083 --> 01:39:54,983
on.  And this is what we end up

2960
01:39:47,283 --> 01:39:55,683
with.   I'm going to tell you,

2961
01:39:55,083 --> 01:39:57,250
there's more apartments like

2962
01:39:55,783 --> 01:40:00,250
this in our city.  There has to

2963
01:39:57,450 --> 01:40:02,283
be a better process that the

2964
01:40:00,350 --> 01:40:09,983
violations  that are being --

2965
01:40:02,383 --> 01:40:13,116
that have gone and addressed.

2966
01:40:10,083 --> 01:40:15,450
if you need more staff to do --

2967
01:40:13,216 --> 01:40:16,383
services to make sure that the

2968
01:40:15,550 --> 01:40:18,216
fire inspector is going there

2969
01:40:16,483 --> 01:40:21,150
and checking the boxes necessary

2970
01:40:18,316 --> 01:40:23,283
for human beings to be in that

2971
01:40:21,250 --> 01:40:24,650
condition.  Let us know during

2972
01:40:23,383 --> 01:40:27,183
the budget.  Request those.

2973
01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:28,683
we'll happily add those staffs.

2974
01:40:27,283 --> 01:40:33,416
it's a failure on the city

2975
01:40:28,783 --> 01:40:35,683
department, in my opinion.  They

2976
01:40:33,516 --> 01:40:37,250
got to do better.  We have to be

2977
01:40:35,783 --> 01:40:39,216
aggressive on landlords who are

2978
01:40:37,350 --> 01:40:43,283
abusing our residents.  I think

2979
01:40:39,316 --> 01:40:45,183
we talked about the team three

2980
01:40:43,383 --> 01:40:46,216
properties that come.  Come in

2981
01:40:45,283 --> 01:40:48,333
front of the council.  The

2982
01:40:46,316 --> 01:40:51,050
reason we even did that, for

2983
01:40:48,450 --> 01:40:52,416
them to get their act together.

2984
01:40:51,150 --> 01:40:54,050
right.  You're coming for a

2985
01:40:52,516 --> 01:40:54,883
license and want to rent in

2986
01:40:54,150 --> 01:40:55,650
minneapolis.  You want to do

2987
01:40:54,983 --> 01:40:58,316
business with the city of

2988
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:59,283
minneapolis.  We expect the

2989
01:40:58,416 --> 01:41:03,116
minimum requirement for people

2990
01:40:59,383 --> 01:41:07,083
to live in those.  In a basic

2991
01:41:03,216 --> 01:41:09,716
need.  A livable conditions.

2992
01:41:07,183 --> 01:41:11,150
but this is what we're paying

2993
01:41:09,816 --> 01:41:17,916
for.  This is something we got

2994
01:41:11,250 --> 01:41:19,550
to do better.  So enforcing the

2995
01:41:18,016 --> 01:41:20,950
policies on the books and not

2996
01:41:19,650 --> 01:41:24,800
just ignore it or not just

2997
01:41:21,050 --> 01:41:26,516
document it.   3-1-1 has to be a

2998
01:41:24,916 --> 01:41:27,783
meaning.  There has to be

2999
01:41:26,616 --> 01:41:29,483
consequences.  City has to take

3000
01:41:27,883 --> 01:41:33,116
action.  Whatever it looks like.

3001
01:41:29,583 --> 01:41:38,783
and what I know so far, the

3002
01:41:33,216 --> 01:41:45,050
mpha does inspections.  And, you

3003
01:41:38,883 --> 01:41:47,783
know, in that itself too I'm

3004
01:41:45,150 --> 01:41:50,050
surprised.  And I'm not really

3005
01:41:47,883 --> 01:41:55,983
sure if an indianapolis has

3006
01:41:50,150 --> 01:41:57,216
taken place.  If you are paying

3007
01:41:56,083 --> 01:41:59,083
the voucher or the rent of the

3008
01:41:57,316 --> 01:42:01,150
unit.  You should check it out.

3009
01:41:59,183 --> 01:42:02,850
what unit you're paying for.

3010
01:42:01,250 --> 01:42:03,683
but at the end of the day, the

3011
01:42:02,950 --> 01:42:07,516
residents are the ones that have

3012
01:42:03,783 --> 01:42:09,083
the least voice here.  We are

3013
01:42:07,616 --> 01:42:10,583
the responsible oversight

3014
01:42:09,183 --> 01:42:12,216
government for city of

3015
01:42:10,683 --> 01:42:13,716
minneapolis.  We have to do

3016
01:42:12,316 --> 01:42:15,950
better as council members.  I'm

3017
01:42:13,816 --> 01:42:19,383
gladly happy to give you the

3018
01:42:16,050 --> 01:42:25,950
budget items you need to make

3019
01:42:19,483 --> 01:42:27,650
sure that landlords that a

3020
01:42:26,050 --> 01:42:28,750
putting people's lives at-risk.

3021
01:42:28,283 --> 01:42:30,350
I appreciate council member

3022
01:42:28,850 --> 01:42:31,450
warren in bringing this forward.

3023
01:42:30,450 --> 01:42:34,983
this might not be the only one.

3024
01:42:31,550 --> 01:42:36,516
I have some, you know,

3025
01:42:35,383 --> 01:42:37,383
collections of apartments that

3026
01:42:36,616 --> 01:42:38,650
have health and safety

3027
01:42:37,483 --> 01:42:42,183
violations in my ward.  But

3028
01:42:38,850 --> 01:42:44,783
thanks a lot.

3029
01:42:42,783 --> 01:42:45,883
» Seeing no one else in queue.

3030
01:42:44,883 --> 01:42:49,050
I'll remind folks what we're

3031
01:42:45,983 --> 01:42:50,783
going to do as far as wrapping

3032
01:42:49,150 --> 01:42:52,650
out the votes.  We'll take up

3033
01:42:50,883 --> 01:42:55,450
the legislative directive.  I'm

3034
01:42:52,950 --> 01:42:57,916
labeling that item 3.4.  After

3035
01:42:55,550 --> 01:43:00,350
that, we'll take up the motion

3036
01:42:58,016 --> 01:43:02,816
to the attorney's office for a

3037
01:43:00,450 --> 01:43:03,950
privileged memo.  I'll label

3038
01:43:02,916 --> 01:43:05,816
that item 3.5.  After we

3039
01:43:04,050 --> 01:43:08,083
complete the votes, we'll finish

3040
01:43:06,116 --> 01:43:09,150
a vote of the full package, so

3041
01:43:08,183 --> 01:43:12,566
with that, I'll ask the clerk to

3042
01:43:09,816 --> 01:43:16,683
call the roll on item 3.4, the

3043
01:43:12,983 --> 01:43:18,850
legislative directive asking for

3044
01:43:16,783 --> 01:43:21,483
regular reporting.

3045
01:43:20,416 --> 01:43:22,350
» Aye.

3046
01:43:21,583 --> 01:43:24,150
[ away from mic ]

3047
01:43:22,616 --> 01:43:24,383
» Council member warren.

3048
01:43:24,250 --> 01:43:24,950
» Aye.

3049
01:43:24,750 --> 01:43:25,616
» Shaffer.

3050
01:43:25,483 --> 01:43:26,083
» Aye.

3051
01:43:25,883 --> 01:43:27,183
» Wonsley.

3052
01:43:26,750 --> 01:43:27,483
» Aye.

3053
01:43:27,283 --> 01:43:28,516
» Whiting.

3054
01:43:28,383 --> 01:43:30,083
» Aye.

3055
01:43:29,016 --> 01:43:30,300
» Chowdhury.

3056
01:43:30,183 --> 01:43:30,950
» Aye.

3057
01:43:30,716 --> 01:43:31,883
» Stevenson.

3058
01:43:31,750 --> 01:43:32,583
» Aye.

3059
01:43:32,350 --> 01:43:33,516
» Rainville.

3060
01:43:33,383 --> 01:43:35,050
» Aye.

3061
01:43:33,916 --> 01:43:35,283
» Vetaw.

3062
01:43:35,150 --> 01:43:36,816
» Aye.

3063
01:43:35,816 --> 01:43:37,050
» Palmisano.

3064
01:43:36,916 --> 01:43:37,683
» Aye.

3065
01:43:37,250 --> 01:43:38,116
» Vice president osman.

3066
01:43:37,983 --> 01:43:38,783
» Aye.

3067
01:43:38,383 --> 01:43:39,383
» President payne.

3068
01:43:39,250 --> 01:43:40,616
» Aye.

3069
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:42,950
» There are 12 ayes.

3070
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:46,516
» That carries.  Next we'll

3071
01:43:43,050 --> 01:43:48,350
take up item 3-.5, which is

3072
01:43:46,616 --> 01:43:49,050
requesting a legal memo from the

3073
01:43:48,450 --> 01:43:50,350
city attorney.  I'll ask the

3074
01:43:49,150 --> 01:43:51,550
clerk to call the roll.

3075
01:43:50,650 --> 01:43:52,116
» Council member chavez.

3076
01:43:51,983 --> 01:43:52,883
» Aye.

3077
01:43:52,383 --> 01:43:53,650
» Council member warren.

3078
01:43:53,316 --> 01:43:54,416
» No.

3079
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:54,850
» Council member shaffer.

3080
01:43:54,750 --> 01:43:55,883
» No.

3081
01:43:55,150 --> 01:43:56,416
» Council member wonsley.

3082
01:43:56,283 --> 01:43:57,616
» Aye.

3083
01:43:56,883 --> 01:43:58,450
» Council member whiting.

3084
01:43:58,316 --> 01:43:59,916
» Aye.

3085
01:43:59,016 --> 01:44:00,350
» Council member chowdhury.

3086
01:44:00,216 --> 01:44:01,883
» Aye.

3087
01:44:00,466 --> 01:44:02,216
» Council member stevenson.

3088
01:44:02,083 --> 01:44:05,583
» Aye.

3089
01:44:02,550 --> 01:44:05,716
» Council member rainville

3090
01:44:05,650 --> 01:44:06,283
.

3091
01:44:06,183 --> 01:44:07,016
» No.

3092
01:44:06,850 --> 01:44:07,283
» Vetaw.

3093
01:44:07,183 --> 01:44:08,116
» No.

3094
01:44:07,883 --> 01:44:08,583
» Palmisano.

3095
01:44:08,483 --> 01:44:09,650
» No.

3096
01:44:08,683 --> 01:44:10,050
» Vice president osman.

3097
01:44:09,916 --> 01:44:10,916
» Aye.

3098
01:44:10,250 --> 01:44:11,150
» President payne.

3099
01:44:11,016 --> 01:44:13,516
» Aye.

3100
01:44:11,483 --> 01:44:13,716
» There are seven ayes and five

3101
01:44:13,616 --> 01:44:16,583
nays.

3102
01:44:14,183 --> 01:44:19,383
» That carries.  And then now

3103
01:44:16,983 --> 01:44:22,583
'll take up the package as a

3104
01:44:19,483 --> 01:44:23,616
whole.  Item number 3 for

3105
01:44:22,683 --> 01:44:24,816
heritage park.  I'll ask the

3106
01:44:23,716 --> 01:44:25,950
clerk to call the roll.

3107
01:44:24,916 --> 01:44:27,950
» Council member chavez.

3108
01:44:26,050 --> 01:44:29,783
» I have a question.

3109
01:44:28,116 --> 01:44:31,216
» Go ahead.

3110
01:44:29,883 --> 01:44:34,416
» Is staff here to talk about

3111
01:44:31,316 --> 01:44:37,483
what the plan is for the money

3112
01:44:34,516 --> 01:44:39,016
after?

3113
01:44:37,883 --> 01:44:41,483
» We're in the middle of a

3114
01:44:39,116 --> 01:44:43,950
vote, mr. President.

3115
01:44:41,583 --> 01:44:44,383
» He's in queue.  It's a

3116
01:44:44,050 --> 01:44:46,216
reasonable question.

3117
01:44:44,483 --> 01:44:47,716
» We have the authority to ask

3118
01:44:46,316 --> 01:44:48,716
questions.  Director hansen, can

3119
01:44:47,816 --> 01:44:49,916
you talk about what would be the

3120
01:44:48,816 --> 01:44:51,383
plan after the funding is

3121
01:44:50,016 --> 01:44:52,783
distributed.  Just --

3122
01:44:51,716 --> 01:44:55,116
» President payne, council

3123
01:44:52,883 --> 01:44:57,016
member chavez, we'll be working

3124
01:44:55,216 --> 01:44:58,750
under the direction of director

3125
01:44:57,116 --> 01:45:00,250
sayer and the team she's

3126
01:44:58,850 --> 01:45:01,716
assembled.  And they'll identify

3127
01:45:00,350 --> 01:45:03,350
needs and then we'll work

3128
01:45:01,816 --> 01:45:04,616
through the administrative

3129
01:45:03,450 --> 01:45:05,150
process to designate those funds

3130
01:45:04,716 --> 01:45:07,950
for those needs.

3131
01:45:05,683 --> 01:45:09,450
» Perfect.  Thank you.

3132
01:45:08,883 --> 01:45:11,483
» Council member --

3133
01:45:09,616 --> 01:45:12,983
» Just auestion.

3134
01:45:11,583 --> 01:45:13,616
» Did you say me?

3135
01:45:13,450 --> 01:45:16,450
» Uh-huh.

3136
01:45:14,250 --> 01:45:18,150
» Oh, thank you.  I'm just

3137
01:45:16,550 --> 01:45:19,516
wondering about the motion that

3138
01:45:18,250 --> 01:45:22,083
we're at now.  Was this made by

3139
01:45:19,816 --> 01:45:27,350
council member warren?

3140
01:45:23,983 --> 01:45:28,983
» Mr. President, what's in

3141
01:45:27,550 --> 01:45:31,583
front of the body now is what

3142
01:45:29,083 --> 01:45:32,916
came out of committee.  So the

3143
01:45:31,683 --> 01:45:35,650
motion that was on the committee

3144
01:45:33,383 --> 01:45:36,883
of the whole report included

3145
01:45:35,750 --> 01:45:38,950
three sub parts.  Number one,

3146
01:45:36,983 --> 01:45:41,250
the delegation of the authority.

3147
01:45:39,050 --> 01:45:43,016
then the approval of the

3148
01:45:41,816 --> 01:45:45,416
$2.5 million from the affordable

3149
01:45:43,116 --> 01:45:46,716
housing trust fund to fund that

3150
01:45:45,516 --> 01:45:48,150
activity as already discuss.

3151
01:45:46,816 --> 01:45:49,983
and then, also, an authorization

3152
01:45:48,250 --> 01:45:52,316
for the execution of any

3153
01:45:50,083 --> 01:45:55,883
necessary documents to implement

3154
01:45:52,416 --> 01:45:59,450
that decision.

3155
01:45:56,483 --> 01:46:00,283
» Okay.  So by council member

3156
01:45:59,550 --> 01:46:01,650
warren and seconded by whom?

3157
01:46:00,483 --> 01:46:02,316
» It was moved for approval

3158
01:46:01,750 --> 01:46:06,650
during the committee report.

3159
01:46:02,716 --> 01:46:07,850
» Okay.  All right.  Thank you.

3160
01:46:06,983 --> 01:46:10,516
» Council member whiting.

3161
01:46:08,116 --> 01:46:12,416
» Yeah.  Just reading our

3162
01:46:10,616 --> 01:46:14,416
definition here.  Is this -- are

3163
01:46:12,516 --> 01:46:16,450
we taking a vote on three as it

3164
01:46:14,616 --> 01:46:18,116
fits one, two, three, four, and

3165
01:46:16,533 --> 01:46:20,050
five sub parts as a whole?  Or

3166
01:46:18,216 --> 01:46:22,550
one through three?

3167
01:46:20,250 --> 01:46:23,983
» Mr. President, I think

3168
01:46:22,650 --> 01:46:25,916
it's -- I think we're voting on

3169
01:46:24,083 --> 01:46:27,216
the item that came out of

3170
01:46:26,016 --> 01:46:28,150
c.o.w., parts one, two, three.

3171
01:46:27,316 --> 01:46:28,366
we dealt with four and five

3172
01:46:28,250 --> 01:46:30,083
already.

3173
01:46:28,883 --> 01:46:32,050
» Okay.  Yep.

3174
01:46:30,183 --> 01:46:35,683
» Thank you.

3175
01:46:32,783 --> 01:46:36,950
» Okay.  Seeing no one else in

3176
01:46:35,783 --> 01:46:39,050
queue, do we know what we're

3177
01:46:37,383 --> 01:46:39,816
voting on?  Clerk will call the

3178
01:46:39,150 --> 01:46:42,083
roll.

3179
01:46:39,916 --> 01:46:42,316
» Council member chavez.

3180
01:46:42,183 --> 01:46:43,650
» Aye.

3181
01:46:43,083 --> 01:46:44,516
» Council member warren.

3182
01:46:44,116 --> 01:46:45,416
» Aye.

3183
01:46:44,616 --> 01:46:46,216
» Council member shaffer.

3184
01:46:45,816 --> 01:46:47,650
» Aye.

3185
01:46:46,316 --> 01:46:48,016
» Council member wonsley.

3186
01:46:47,883 --> 01:46:48,916
» Aye.

3187
01:46:48,283 --> 01:46:49,750
» Council member whiting.

3188
01:46:49,316 --> 01:46:50,750
» Aye

3189
01:46:49,850 --> 01:46:51,516
» Council member chowdhury.

3190
01:46:51,016 --> 01:46:52,216
» Aye.

3191
01:46:51,616 --> 01:46:52,516
» Council member stevenson.

3192
01:46:52,383 --> 01:46:53,683
» Aye.

3193
01:46:52,783 --> 01:46:54,450
» Council member rainville.

3194
01:46:54,116 --> 01:46:55,083
» Aye.

3195
01:46:54,550 --> 01:46:56,050
» Council member vetaw.

3196
01:46:55,416 --> 01:46:56,950
» Aye.

3197
01:46:56,116 --> 01:46:57,550
» Council member palmisano.

3198
01:46:57,416 --> 01:46:58,683
» Aye.

3199
01:46:57,783 --> 01:46:59,316
» Vice president osman.

3200
01:46:58,983 --> 01:46:59,750
» Aye.

3201
01:46:59,416 --> 01:47:00,316
» President payne.

3202
01:47:00,183 --> 01:47:01,583
» Aye.

3203
01:47:00,683 --> 01:47:04,583
» There are 12 ayes.

3204
01:47:02,050 --> 01:47:05,216
» That carries.  And that

3205
01:47:04,683 --> 01:47:09,083
completes the committee of the

3206
01:47:05,316 --> 01:47:10,683
whole report.  We have the

3207
01:47:09,616 --> 01:47:13,350
amended resolution for item

3208
01:47:11,216 --> 01:47:14,616
number one from c & I that the

3209
01:47:13,450 --> 01:47:16,450
clerks have diligently put

3210
01:47:14,716 --> 01:47:19,283
together.  And we can revisit

3211
01:47:16,550 --> 01:47:21,083
this.  Is there any discussion

3212
01:47:19,383 --> 01:47:23,650
remaining discussion on item

3213
01:47:21,183 --> 01:47:28,283
number one from the c & I

3214
01:47:23,750 --> 01:47:29,116
report, lyndale reconstruction?

3215
01:47:28,383 --> 01:47:31,216
seeing none.

3216
01:47:29,416 --> 01:47:33,250
» Do we need to move it?

3217
01:47:31,416 --> 01:47:33,583
» Does this need to be moved,

3218
01:47:33,350 --> 01:47:34,983
mr. Clerk?

3219
01:47:33,783 --> 01:47:36,783
» The standing motion that we

3220
01:47:35,083 --> 01:47:38,316
were working on amending was

3221
01:47:36,883 --> 01:47:40,750
already offered by stevenson on

3222
01:47:38,416 --> 01:47:41,783
behalf of the committee.  So I

3223
01:47:40,850 --> 01:47:44,116
assume we have the motion in

3224
01:47:41,983 --> 01:47:44,516
place from council member

3225
01:47:44,216 --> 01:47:46,783
stevenson.

3226
01:47:44,616 --> 01:47:49,250
» Okay.  So we will be voting

3227
01:47:46,883 --> 01:47:51,250
on item number one as amended by

3228
01:47:49,350 --> 01:47:51,516
council member stevenson and

3229
01:47:51,350 --> 01:47:53,250
chowdhury.

3230
01:47:51,616 --> 01:47:56,783
» Correct.  Which is marked

3231
01:47:53,350 --> 01:48:02,016
revised in yellow highlighting.

3232
01:47:59,850 --> 01:48:02,516
» Seeing -- council member

3233
01:48:02,116 --> 01:48:08,950
warren.

3234
01:48:03,916 --> 01:48:10,416
» What is the plan that keeps

3235
01:48:09,050 --> 01:48:12,750
lyndale avenue the way it is

3236
01:48:10,516 --> 01:48:14,783
right now?  What is that?  Is

3237
01:48:12,950 --> 01:48:16,983
that -- is that this?  Or what

3238
01:48:14,883 --> 01:48:19,583
is happening here?  I'm so

3239
01:48:17,083 --> 01:48:22,783
confused by all of the different

3240
01:48:19,683 --> 01:48:28,050
motions that have come forward

3241
01:48:22,883 --> 01:48:29,883
about lyndale avenue.  And if

3242
01:48:28,150 --> 01:48:31,216
it -- the design -- if it

3243
01:48:29,983 --> 01:48:32,883
changes anymore, it's definitely

3244
01:48:31,316 --> 01:48:35,416
going to be a detriment.  I

3245
01:48:32,983 --> 01:48:38,783
don't know if you guys remember

3246
01:48:36,950 --> 01:48:41,883
this, but during the time that

3247
01:48:39,183 --> 01:48:44,350
we had, the emergency at

3248
01:48:41,983 --> 01:48:46,583
annunciation.  My kids attend

3249
01:48:44,450 --> 01:48:48,116
school right on lyndale avenue.

3250
01:48:46,683 --> 01:48:49,116
they go to stonebridge.  That

3251
01:48:48,216 --> 01:48:51,250
morning when I was driving my

3252
01:48:49,216 --> 01:48:55,450
kids to school, we already have

3253
01:48:51,416 --> 01:48:58,083
a single lane of fricken

3254
01:48:55,550 --> 01:48:59,550
traffic.  There are ambulances

3255
01:48:58,183 --> 01:49:02,650
flying.  Trying to get past.

3256
01:48:59,650 --> 01:49:06,150
and there's nowhere for cars or

3257
01:49:02,750 --> 01:49:08,083
anyone to go because you are in

3258
01:49:06,250 --> 01:49:09,516
one lane.  You're -- there's

3259
01:49:08,183 --> 01:49:12,550
nowhere for you to pull over to

3260
01:49:09,616 --> 01:49:15,150
get away.  You can't jump up on

3261
01:49:12,650 --> 01:49:16,883
the median in your car, your

3262
01:49:15,250 --> 01:49:18,650
suv, your nothing.  There's

3263
01:49:16,983 --> 01:49:20,883
nowhere for you to go.  And I

3264
01:49:18,750 --> 01:49:22,083
was trying to figure out what

3265
01:49:20,983 --> 01:49:24,150
happened.  Because as soon as I

3266
01:49:22,166 --> 01:49:26,783
would move and try to make a

3267
01:49:24,250 --> 01:49:29,883
quick dip turn off into the next

3268
01:49:26,883 --> 01:49:32,183
break of a street to get away

3269
01:49:29,983 --> 01:49:34,983
for the -- let the emergency

3270
01:49:32,283 --> 01:49:37,083
vehicles pass.  I was -- I would

3271
01:49:35,083 --> 01:49:39,216
travel barely a half a block

3272
01:49:37,183 --> 01:49:41,483
before hear come come --

3273
01:49:39,316 --> 01:49:43,816
here comes some more.  There was

3274
01:49:41,583 --> 01:49:45,416
nowhere for traffic to go.

3275
01:49:43,916 --> 01:49:47,116
nowhere!  They were on both

3276
01:49:45,516 --> 01:49:50,050
directions of the street trying

3277
01:49:47,483 --> 01:49:52,650
to hurry up and get there to

3278
01:49:50,150 --> 01:49:55,450
service our babies who were in

3279
01:49:52,750 --> 01:50:01,983
danger.  Leave these streets

3280
01:49:55,550 --> 01:50:03,183
alone!  My goodn

3281
01:50:02,083 --> 01:50:06,783
goodness!  We've done enough to

3282
01:50:03,283 --> 01:50:09,050
hennepin.  The main things in

3283
01:50:06,883 --> 01:50:10,816
these neighborhoods, you got to

3284
01:50:09,150 --> 01:50:12,783
get emergency vehicles through

3285
01:50:10,916 --> 01:50:15,350
there.  You got to get to people

3286
01:50:12,883 --> 01:50:17,750
quickly.  There's all of those.

3287
01:50:15,450 --> 01:50:19,650
I get the traffic calming.  I

3288
01:50:17,850 --> 01:50:21,383
respect the traffic calming.  I

3289
01:50:19,750 --> 01:50:23,150
respect the oversaturation of

3290
01:50:22,016 --> 01:50:24,583
omissioned air and all the

3291
01:50:23,250 --> 01:50:27,450
cumulative air qualities.  I'm

3292
01:50:25,883 --> 01:50:30,283
an environmental justice fellow.

3293
01:50:27,533 --> 01:50:31,916
I respect that.  The tree c

3294
01:50:30,416 --> 01:50:33,216
canopies, everything.  Man,

3295
01:50:32,016 --> 01:50:34,583
would you please leave the

3296
01:50:33,316 --> 01:50:36,683
streets alone.  I want to go

3297
01:50:34,683 --> 01:50:39,516
with whatever the plan is.  This

3298
01:50:36,783 --> 01:50:44,316
is leave the street alone!  My

3299
01:50:39,616 --> 01:50:44,916
god!  I just want to drive

3300
01:50:44,416 --> 01:50:46,283
down -- these people are

3301
01:50:45,016 --> 01:50:48,550
laughing at me.  I want to drive

3302
01:50:46,383 --> 01:50:50,983
down a normal street.  And I

3303
01:50:48,650 --> 01:50:54,116
want our emergency responders to

3304
01:50:51,083 --> 01:50:55,600
be able to get to people

3305
01:50:54,216 --> 01:50:57,316
effectively.  I get the bike

3306
01:50:55,816 --> 01:50:59,550
lanes.  I get all of that stuff.

3307
01:50:58,050 --> 01:51:01,250
I get the everything.  I've

3308
01:50:59,650 --> 01:51:03,616
been to other cities.  They got

3309
01:51:01,350 --> 01:51:05,950
bike lanes, two-lane traffic on

3310
01:51:03,716 --> 01:51:07,483
one side of the street.  One

3311
01:51:06,050 --> 01:51:12,183
side.  So people can move and

3312
01:51:08,116 --> 01:51:13,216
your bike bike bikes,

3313
01:51:12,283 --> 01:51:14,950
scooters, whatever it is.  You

3314
01:51:13,316 --> 01:51:16,750
have a two-lane street.  It's

3315
01:51:15,050 --> 01:51:17,983
cute.  They got the traffic

3316
01:51:16,950 --> 01:51:20,550
signals and everything.  It's

3317
01:51:18,083 --> 01:51:21,216
cute.  And it's, like, real posh

3318
01:51:20,650 --> 01:51:24,783
and everything.  Like, it's

3319
01:51:21,316 --> 01:51:26,050
nice.  It's really nice.  Leave

3320
01:51:24,883 --> 01:51:27,983
these people in the street

3321
01:51:26,150 --> 01:51:29,150
alone!  I don't know is that

3322
01:51:28,083 --> 01:51:32,150
this plan?  I don't know.  I'm

3323
01:51:29,250 --> 01:51:34,316
confused.  I just want the plan

3324
01:51:32,250 --> 01:51:36,683
that's no thank you to anymore

3325
01:51:34,416 --> 01:51:39,450
changes to lyndale.  Hennepin is

3326
01:51:36,783 --> 01:51:41,883
already stressful enough.  And I

3327
01:51:39,550 --> 01:51:43,883
just -- I just want to leave

3328
01:51:41,983 --> 01:51:46,316
lyndale.  Lyndale north side is

3329
01:51:43,983 --> 01:51:49,116
jacked up.  I want lyndale to be

3330
01:51:46,416 --> 01:51:51,883
left alone.  Like, let lyndale

3331
01:51:49,416 --> 01:51:52,550
be lyndale!  My goodness.

3332
01:51:51,983 --> 01:51:53,750
» Council member --

3333
01:51:53,050 --> 01:51:54,983
» The end.

3334
01:51:54,150 --> 01:51:57,783
» Council member stevenson.

3335
01:51:55,116 --> 01:51:58,783
» Tha you, mr. President.  It

3336
01:51:57,883 --> 01:52:00,550
seems like council member warren

3337
01:51:58,883 --> 01:52:04,083
and I totally agree there should

3338
01:52:00,650 --> 01:52:05,450
be a bus lane the full length of

3339
01:52:04,183 --> 01:52:08,916
lyndale so buses and emergency

3340
01:52:05,550 --> 01:52:10,616
vehi vehicles can pass

3341
01:52:09,016 --> 01:52:11,550
quickly.  Unfortunately, we're

3342
01:52:10,716 --> 01:52:13,783
not being presented with the

3343
01:52:11,650 --> 01:52:16,350
plan.  We're the city and giving

3344
01:52:13,883 --> 01:52:18,083
municipal consent.  As much as I

3345
01:52:16,450 --> 01:52:19,483
would have like to drawn up the

3346
01:52:18,183 --> 01:52:22,750
plan myself and deal with it at

3347
01:52:20,116 --> 01:52:25,350
this council.  It's not how it

3348
01:52:22,850 --> 01:52:27,350
works.  So, yeah.  This is --

3349
01:52:25,450 --> 01:52:28,916
this is the plan.  This is the

3350
01:52:27,450 --> 01:52:31,150
plan that the county came up

3351
01:52:29,016 --> 01:52:33,950
with.  They listened for years

3352
01:52:31,250 --> 01:52:36,216
and years and years to folks

3353
01:52:34,050 --> 01:52:38,450
coming out and talking about the

3354
01:52:36,316 --> 01:52:41,916
strengths, weaknesses, and hopes

3355
01:52:38,950 --> 01:52:43,450
and desires for lyndale.  Umm, a

3356
01:52:42,016 --> 01:52:44,783
lot has been said about the

3357
01:52:43,550 --> 01:52:46,083
business community.  And I

3358
01:52:44,866 --> 01:52:47,550
like to -- I'd like to say a

3359
01:52:46,416 --> 01:52:49,616
little something for the

3360
01:52:47,650 --> 01:52:52,016
residents who live around there

3361
01:52:49,716 --> 01:52:54,383
in my ward and in ward 10.

3362
01:52:52,116 --> 01:52:58,250
people who have been hit by cars

3363
01:52:54,483 --> 01:53:01,850
and killed on this road.  People

3364
01:52:58,350 --> 01:53:02,850
who have been injured, people

3365
01:53:01,950 --> 01:53:05,216
who don't -- don't css the

3366
01:53:02,950 --> 01:53:08,483
road because it's so dangerous.

3367
01:53:05,516 --> 01:53:11,183
so they feel hemmed in, in one

3368
01:53:08,583 --> 01:53:12,883
neighborhood as opposed to going

3369
01:53:11,416 --> 01:53:15,450
to the other.  There are so many

3370
01:53:12,983 --> 01:53:16,250
reasons why the update is

3371
01:53:15,550 --> 01:53:18,250
happening.  I personally don't

3372
01:53:16,350 --> 01:53:19,583
feel like it goes nearly far

3373
01:53:18,350 --> 01:53:21,183
enough.  There are so many other

3374
01:53:19,683 --> 01:53:22,550
safety improvements, transit

3375
01:53:21,283 --> 01:53:25,083
improvements to deal with

3376
01:53:22,650 --> 01:53:26,916
congestion.  To deal with the

3377
01:53:25,183 --> 01:53:28,583
fact that we're all in here

3378
01:53:27,016 --> 01:53:30,750
coughing up a lung because

3379
01:53:28,683 --> 01:53:32,350
there's so much smoke outside

3380
01:53:31,516 --> 01:53:34,283
because carbon pollution has

3381
01:53:32,450 --> 01:53:37,250
heated up this earth to the

3382
01:53:34,383 --> 01:53:39,050
point where our forests can no

3383
01:53:37,350 --> 01:53:41,416
longer exist in the way the do.

3384
01:53:39,250 --> 01:53:42,950
I mean, this is -- this is

3385
01:53:41,516 --> 01:53:45,283
climate action right here.  And

3386
01:53:43,250 --> 01:53:48,650
we are in a climate emergency.

3387
01:53:46,050 --> 01:53:51,150
so I am begging, I'm asking for

3388
01:53:49,050 --> 01:53:54,616
my colleagues to please give

3389
01:53:51,233 --> 01:53:56,083
municipal consent so that we are

3390
01:53:54,850 --> 01:54:00,216
lurch making them drive up the

3391
01:53:56,183 --> 01:54:01,650
costs even further, and

3392
01:54:00,916 --> 01:54:03,416
potentially threatening the

3393
01:54:01,750 --> 01:54:06,716
federal funds so we can build

3394
01:54:04,316 --> 01:54:08,516
the compromised proposal.

3395
01:54:06,816 --> 01:54:09,450
frankly, doesn't go nearly far

3396
01:54:08,616 --> 01:54:11,150
enough for me.  That's what

3397
01:54:09,550 --> 01:54:13,716
listening is.  Listening is

3398
01:54:11,283 --> 01:54:15,816
hearing from all sides of the

3399
01:54:14,116 --> 01:54:16,950
community, all sides of the

3400
01:54:15,916 --> 01:54:18,450
stakeholders, and coming up with

3401
01:54:17,050 --> 01:54:20,650
something that can work.  And

3402
01:54:18,550 --> 01:54:22,716
that's what this proposal is.

3403
01:54:20,750 --> 01:54:24,150
so I am asking, please, for the

3404
01:54:22,816 --> 01:54:27,416
sake of my residents, for the

3405
01:54:24,250 --> 01:54:29,083
sake of theesidents in ward

3406
01:54:27,516 --> 01:54:33,850
10, please approve this so that

3407
01:54:29,283 --> 01:54:37,083
we can move forward with a

3408
01:54:34,183 --> 01:54:39,383
safer, more legible lyndale that

3409
01:54:37,383 --> 01:54:41,216
gives transit irovements so

3410
01:54:39,483 --> 01:54:42,550
that emergency vehicles and

3411
01:54:41,316 --> 01:54:45,516
buses can skirt by when they

3412
01:54:42,650 --> 01:54:47,083
need to.  That gives safety

3413
01:54:45,616 --> 01:54:49,416
improvements, that expands green

3414
01:54:47,183 --> 01:54:51,083
space, that expands sidewalk

3415
01:54:49,516 --> 01:54:52,683
cafes for some of our small

3416
01:54:51,183 --> 01:54:54,983
businesses.  There is so much to

3417
01:54:52,916 --> 01:54:57,316
like in this proposal.  And

3418
01:54:55,083 --> 01:54:59,750
there's so much that it leaves

3419
01:54:57,483 --> 01:55:01,850
to be desired.  But I am asking

3420
01:54:59,850 --> 01:55:03,616
for e sake of my residents in

3421
01:55:01,950 --> 01:55:05,883
ward eight and for the sake of

3422
01:55:03,716 --> 01:55:07,683
residents in ward 10, that we

3423
01:55:05,983 --> 01:55:09,683
please approve this so we can

3424
01:55:07,783 --> 01:55:12,550
move forward in the most

3425
01:55:11,316 --> 01:55:16,516
financially sound way.  And get

3426
01:55:12,650 --> 01:55:21,116
the street that we need rebuilt

3427
01:55:16,616 --> 01:55:22,316
and get the street rebuilt after

3428
01:55:21,783 --> 01:55:24,083
92 years.

3429
01:55:22,650 --> 01:55:31,983
» Just the last comment for me

3430
01:55:24,183 --> 01:55:33,083
here. Looking for the business

3431
01:55:32,083 --> 01:55:34,683
community, it's very important

3432
01:55:33,183 --> 01:55:37,316
we think about them and the

3433
01:55:34,783 --> 01:55:39,150
outcome and just imagine, this

3434
01:55:37,416 --> 01:55:40,750
construction happening and we're

3435
01:55:39,250 --> 01:55:45,383
celebrating, weave the safety

3436
01:55:40,850 --> 01:55:49,716
bus lane, all those good things.

3437
01:55:45,483 --> 01:55:52,650
I was suggesting not to close

3438
01:55:49,816 --> 01:55:56,550
the whole road but there is a

3439
01:55:52,750 --> 01:55:59,616
major project and it is not like

3440
01:55:56,650 --> 01:56:01,850
you can open one side of the

3441
01:55:59,716 --> 01:56:03,183
road. I will support -- I think

3442
01:56:01,950 --> 01:56:06,283
it's worth investment. If you

3443
01:56:03,283 --> 01:56:07,566
look at it, you know, let's not

3444
01:56:06,383 --> 01:56:08,616
forget our business community. I

3445
01:56:07,683 --> 01:56:10,350
encourage the county and the

3446
01:56:08,716 --> 01:56:12,150
city to find a way to support

3447
01:56:10,450 --> 01:56:15,050
the businesses and the project,

3448
01:56:12,250 --> 01:56:18,683
the county who is running the

3449
01:56:15,133 --> 01:56:22,316
project actually give this in

3450
01:56:18,783 --> 01:56:23,850
phases. Do it in a phase way

3451
01:56:22,416 --> 01:56:25,416
that you can connect with the

3452
01:56:23,950 --> 01:56:26,583
business community, have

3453
01:56:25,516 --> 01:56:30,050
meetings with the community,

3454
01:56:26,683 --> 01:56:31,383
have better signage of where

3455
01:56:30,150 --> 01:56:32,783
people are supposed to go,

3456
01:56:31,483 --> 01:56:34,683
supporting the businesses that

3457
01:56:32,883 --> 01:56:35,950
way and instead of closing and

3458
01:56:34,783 --> 01:56:40,516
leaving there with years, years

3459
01:56:36,050 --> 01:56:41,950
to come. I would definitely

3460
01:56:40,616 --> 01:56:47,416
encourage the county and the

3461
01:56:42,050 --> 01:56:50,783
city to find a way so we can

3462
01:56:47,516 --> 01:56:51,883
minimize the effects of

3463
01:56:50,883 --> 01:56:53,216
businesses, because we want the

3464
01:56:51,983 --> 01:56:54,483
businesses to come back. We're

3465
01:56:53,316 --> 01:56:56,116
building the road for that

3466
01:56:54,583 --> 01:57:00,050
reason, for people, for

3467
01:56:56,216 --> 01:57:01,283
businesses, for the community,

3468
01:57:00,133 --> 01:57:02,883
and I would like to see

3469
01:57:01,383 --> 01:57:05,450
businesses get as much support

3470
01:57:02,983 --> 01:57:08,583
as they can. I appreciate

3471
01:57:05,550 --> 01:57:12,816
everyone who tried to, you know,

3472
01:57:08,683 --> 01:57:13,983
work with and with this project,

3473
01:57:12,916 --> 01:57:18,250
finding amendments and amending

3474
01:57:14,083 --> 01:57:20,350
some of the motions we see which

3475
01:57:18,350 --> 01:57:22,516
are pretty important. Overall,

3476
01:57:20,450 --> 01:57:26,450
it's worth the investment to

3477
01:57:22,616 --> 01:57:28,283
approve this. Thank you.

3478
01:57:26,716 --> 01:57:32,050
» Council member chavez.

3479
01:57:30,683 --> 01:57:33,716
» Council president payne,

3480
01:57:32,150 --> 01:57:34,516
thank you. Does this allow for

3481
01:57:33,816 --> 01:57:35,950
emergency vehicles to go

3482
01:57:34,616 --> 01:57:39,816
through, along with the

3483
01:57:36,050 --> 01:57:40,016
resolutions in front of us

3484
01:57:39,916 --> 01:57:43,050
today?

3485
01:57:40,850 --> 01:57:46,216
» Council president, council

3486
01:57:43,150 --> 01:57:47,250
member chavez, senior

3487
01:57:46,316 --> 01:57:49,616
transportation planner with

3488
01:57:47,350 --> 01:57:51,583
public works. This plan does not

3489
01:57:49,716 --> 01:57:54,616
change the lane configuration

3490
01:57:51,683 --> 01:57:58,050
that is out there today. It

3491
01:57:54,716 --> 01:57:59,883
maintains for a large portion of

3492
01:57:58,150 --> 01:58:01,883
the roadway as a center turn

3493
01:57:59,983 --> 01:58:03,516
lane, which also allows for

3494
01:58:01,983 --> 01:58:06,716
space for vehicles to move out

3495
01:58:03,683 --> 01:58:08,783
of the way of emergency

3496
01:58:06,816 --> 01:58:14,050
vehicles, or for emergency

3497
01:58:08,883 --> 01:58:15,683
vehicles to use that center turn

3498
01:58:14,150 --> 01:58:18,450
lane. Where there are center

3499
01:58:15,783 --> 01:58:20,183
medians, we worked with

3500
01:58:18,550 --> 01:58:22,250
emergency services and fire to

3501
01:58:20,283 --> 01:58:28,116
make sure they can be navigated

3502
01:58:22,350 --> 01:58:30,383
and driven over, so they are

3503
01:58:28,216 --> 01:58:31,683
mountable. Both across the

3504
01:58:30,483 --> 01:58:35,583
intersections where the median

3505
01:58:31,783 --> 01:58:36,016
spans the intersection and along

3506
01:58:35,683 --> 01:58:37,616
lyndale avenue.

3507
01:58:36,116 --> 01:58:39,850
» Thank you, I wanted to make

3508
01:58:37,716 --> 01:58:41,850
sure that the public was not

3509
01:58:39,950 --> 01:58:43,283
given misquotes on what can

3510
01:58:41,950 --> 01:58:45,850
happen here. Emergency vehicles

3511
01:58:43,383 --> 01:58:46,550
can still go through. Thank you.

3512
01:58:46,083 --> 01:58:48,083
» Cncil member whiting.

3513
01:58:47,550 --> 01:58:49,450
» Thank you, president payne.

3514
01:58:48,183 --> 01:58:51,916
just maybe a quick note for

3515
01:58:49,550 --> 01:58:53,716
staff here as well. Quickly, I

3516
01:58:52,016 --> 01:58:56,983
just wanted to note particularly

3517
01:58:53,816 --> 01:58:59,550
how it goes to the logistics of

3518
01:58:57,083 --> 01:59:01,983
this plan as stated. I know we

3519
01:58:59,650 --> 01:59:02,983
kind of have the removal of the

3520
01:59:02,083 --> 01:59:05,250
design modification to ensure

3521
01:59:03,083 --> 01:59:07,216
drive way access and business

3522
01:59:05,350 --> 01:59:08,883
operational needs. I think

3523
01:59:07,316 --> 01:59:10,216
council member stevenson noted

3524
01:59:08,983 --> 01:59:13,150
that is because hennepin county

3525
01:59:10,316 --> 01:59:16,283
is open to changing that design

3526
01:59:14,283 --> 01:59:18,683
or working through that. Does

3527
01:59:16,383 --> 01:59:21,750
the design that is in front of

3528
01:59:18,783 --> 01:59:24,216
us, based on lyndale layout, are

3529
01:59:22,183 --> 01:59:28,883
we giving municipal consent for

3530
01:59:24,316 --> 01:59:30,816
that specific design or is it

3531
01:59:28,983 --> 01:59:32,450
subject to change without --

3532
01:59:30,916 --> 01:59:34,783
like does it have to come back

3533
01:59:32,550 --> 01:59:39,483
to us for municipal consent if

3534
01:59:34,883 --> 01:59:39,716
they change the design of the

3535
01:59:39,583 --> 01:59:43,216
layout?

3536
01:59:41,483 --> 01:59:44,450
» President payne, council

3537
01:59:43,316 --> 01:59:46,583
member, this is a resolution of

3538
01:59:44,550 --> 01:59:48,483
support. It's a minor, slightly

3539
01:59:46,683 --> 01:59:50,050
different than municipal

3540
01:59:48,583 --> 01:59:52,950
consent. It doesn't really

3541
01:59:50,150 --> 01:59:54,183
matter. The point is, with the

3542
01:59:53,050 --> 01:59:56,183
medians, what we asked the

3543
01:59:54,283 --> 01:59:57,816
county to look at is to ensure

3544
01:59:56,283 --> 01:59:59,250
that they can function with say

3545
01:59:57,916 --> 02:00:01,116
large delivery vehicles, and

3546
01:59:59,350 --> 02:00:04,583
those operational needs are met.

3547
02:00:01,216 --> 02:00:06,350
I want to be clear though that

3548
02:00:04,683 --> 02:00:08,050
it's not about reducing or

3549
02:00:06,450 --> 02:00:10,350
eliminating the medians. Those

3550
02:00:08,150 --> 02:00:13,850
are critical safety features on

3551
02:00:10,450 --> 02:00:16,316
the project. Removal of a median

3552
02:00:13,950 --> 02:00:19,750
would constitute a substantial

3553
02:00:16,416 --> 02:00:22,883
change, which would come back to

3554
02:00:19,850 --> 02:00:24,216
the city. In general, this is a

3555
02:00:22,983 --> 02:00:25,816
30% plan, more or less. It's

3556
02:00:24,316 --> 02:00:27,783
saying where the curbs are going

3557
02:00:25,916 --> 02:00:30,083
to be, more or less, what

3558
02:00:27,883 --> 02:00:31,983
features are going to be on the

3559
02:00:30,183 --> 02:00:33,183
projects, say bike lanes,

3560
02:00:32,083 --> 02:00:35,816
parking, those kinds of things.

3561
02:00:33,350 --> 02:00:37,516
so the median conversation, we

3562
02:00:35,916 --> 02:00:38,483
would be engaging the county to

3563
02:00:37,616 --> 02:00:41,183
make sure vehicles can get in

3564
02:00:38,583 --> 02:00:43,183
and out as intended, so the curb

3565
02:00:41,283 --> 02:00:44,550
where exactly it is may move,

3566
02:00:43,283 --> 02:00:46,183
but it's not saying whether or

3567
02:00:44,650 --> 02:00:48,183
not if there would be a curb.

3568
02:00:46,283 --> 02:00:49,450
» So it snds like any minor

3569
02:00:48,283 --> 02:00:51,916
changes would not need to come

3570
02:00:49,550 --> 02:00:53,183
baun to council. So anything

3571
02:00:52,016 --> 02:00:55,583
over substantial change would.

3572
02:00:53,283 --> 02:00:56,816
» That is correct. I will

3573
02:00:55,683 --> 02:00:58,383
acknowledgehat is a bit of a

3574
02:00:56,916 --> 02:01:00,483
gray area, but in general, these

3575
02:00:58,550 --> 02:01:04,450
do not come back to council.

3576
02:01:00,583 --> 02:01:06,850
» Thank you. That's all.

3577
02:01:04,550 --> 02:01:08,850
» Okay, seeing no one else left

3578
02:01:06,950 --> 02:01:11,350
in queue, I will ask the clerk

3579
02:01:09,650 --> 02:01:12,516
to call the roll on the

3580
02:01:11,450 --> 02:01:13,250
resolution as amended.

3581
02:01:12,616 --> 02:01:14,050
» Council member chavez.

3582
02:01:13,350 --> 02:01:14,850
» Aye.

3583
02:01:14,150 --> 02:01:15,450
» Council member warren.

3584
02:01:14,950 --> 02:01:16,050
» No.

3585
02:01:15,550 --> 02:01:16,883
» Council member shaffer.

3586
02:01:16,216 --> 02:01:18,183
» No.

3587
02:01:16,983 --> 02:01:18,783
» Council member wonsley.

3588
02:01:18,250 --> 02:01:20,316
» Aye.

3589
02:01:18,883 --> 02:01:20,616
» Councilember whiting.

3590
02:01:20,416 --> 02:01:22,216
» Aye.

3591
02:01:20,816 --> 02:01:23,283
» Shout.

3592
02:01:22,383 --> 02:01:23,883
» Aye.

3593
02:01:23,383 --> 02:01:24,516
» Council member stevenson.

3594
02:01:23,983 --> 02:01:25,816
» Aye.

3595
02:01:24,616 --> 02:01:26,416
» Council member rainville.

3596
02:01:25,916 --> 02:01:27,483
» No.

3597
02:01:26,516 --> 02:01:28,583
» Council member vetaw.

3598
02:01:27,583 --> 02:01:29,750
» No.

3599
02:01:28,683 --> 02:01:30,816
» Council member palmisano.

3600
02:01:30,350 --> 02:01:32,016
» Aye.

3601
02:01:31,150 --> 02:01:32,483
» Vice president osman.

3602
02:01:32,116 --> 02:01:33,750
» Aye.

3603
02:01:33,283 --> 02:01:34,650
» President payne.

3604
02:01:33,850 --> 02:01:37,083
» Aye.

3605
02:01:34,750 --> 02:01:38,783
» There are 8 ayes and 4 nays.

3606
02:01:37,183 --> 02:01:40,116
» That item carries and that

3607
02:01:38,883 --> 02:01:41,783
completes the climate and

3608
02:01:40,216 --> 02:01:44,283
infrastructure report and we

3609
02:01:41,883 --> 02:01:46,183
will return to our agenda. Next

3610
02:01:44,383 --> 02:01:47,950
with the report of our

3611
02:01:46,283 --> 02:01:48,816
enterprise and labor relations

3612
02:01:48,050 --> 02:01:51,183
committee, which will be

3613
02:01:48,916 --> 02:01:52,450
presented by its chair council

3614
02:01:51,283 --> 02:01:53,883
member palmisano.

3615
02:01:52,983 --> 02:01:55,450
» Thank you, mr. President, we

3616
02:01:53,983 --> 02:01:57,150
have five items to bring forward

3617
02:01:55,550 --> 02:01:58,450
today. The first is our

3618
02:01:57,250 --> 02:01:59,983
appointment of the city

3619
02:01:58,550 --> 02:02:04,750
assessor. This is the nomination

3620
02:02:02,016 --> 02:02:07,183
of rebecca to be our city

3621
02:02:04,850 --> 02:02:09,616
assessor for this next term,

3622
02:02:07,283 --> 02:02:11,350
ending january of 2030. Item

3623
02:02:09,716 --> 02:02:14,050
number 2 is a resolution for the

3624
02:02:11,450 --> 02:02:17,383
first quarter of quarterly

3625
02:02:14,150 --> 02:02:19,816
donations, item number 3 is an

3626
02:02:17,483 --> 02:02:20,850
acceptance for council member

3627
02:02:19,916 --> 02:02:24,116
stevenson's attendance at a

3628
02:02:20,950 --> 02:02:25,083
summit in duluth. Item number 4

3629
02:02:24,216 --> 02:02:28,416
is a collective bargaining

3630
02:02:25,183 --> 02:02:30,250
agreement for our firefighters,

3631
02:02:28,516 --> 02:02:32,083
local 82. Item number 5 is a

3632
02:02:30,350 --> 02:02:35,716
settlement of a workers' comp

3633
02:02:32,183 --> 02:02:37,283
claim for genevieve hanson. I

3634
02:02:35,816 --> 02:02:39,083
will move approl for this for

3635
02:02:37,383 --> 02:02:40,883
report.

3636
02:02:39,216 --> 02:02:42,616
» Council member palmisano has

3637
02:02:40,983 --> 02:02:44,083
moved approval for the report.

3638
02:02:42,716 --> 02:02:47,283
is there any discuson? Seeing

3639
02:02:44,183 --> 02:02:48,383
none, I will ask the clerk to

3640
02:02:47,383 --> 02:02:49,716
call the roll.

3641
02:02:48,483 --> 02:02:50,316
» Council member chavez.

3642
02:02:49,816 --> 02:02:51,316
» Aye.

3643
02:02:50,416 --> 02:02:51,983
» Couil member warren.

3644
02:02:51,416 --> 02:02:52,983
» Aye.

3645
02:02:52,083 --> 02:02:53,550
» Council member shaffer.

3646
02:02:53,083 --> 02:02:54,516
» Aye.

3647
02:02:53,650 --> 02:02:55,016
» Council member wonsley.

3648
02:02:54,616 --> 02:02:56,450
» Aye.

3649
02:02:55,116 --> 02:02:56,883
» Council member whiting.

3650
02:02:56,550 --> 02:02:58,083
» Aye.

3651
02:02:57,016 --> 02:02:59,783
» Council member chowdhury.

3652
02:02:58,183 --> 02:03:00,450
» Aye. >> council member steve

3653
02:02:59,883 --> 02:03:01,383
» Aye.

3654
02:03:00,550 --> 02:03:01,916
» Council member rainville.

3655
02:03:01,483 --> 02:03:03,050
» Aye.

3656
02:03:02,016 --> 02:03:03,516
» Council member vetaw.

3657
02:03:03,150 --> 02:03:04,583
» Aye.

3658
02:03:03,616 --> 02:03:05,083
» Council member palmisano.

3659
02:03:04,683 --> 02:03:06,016
» Aye.

3660
02:03:05,450 --> 02:03:06,650
» Vice president osman.

3661
02:03:06,116 --> 02:03:07,350
» Aye.

3662
02:03:06,750 --> 02:03:07,850
» President payne.

3663
02:03:07,450 --> 02:03:09,483
» Aye.

3664
02:03:08,216 --> 02:03:10,950
» There are 12 ayes.

3665
02:03:09,583 --> 02:03:12,983
» That carries and that

3666
02:03:11,050 --> 02:03:16,316
completes the elr report.

3667
02:03:13,083 --> 02:03:16,883
finally we have the public

3668
02:03:16,416 --> 02:03:17,983
health, safety, and equity

3669
02:03:16,983 --> 02:03:19,850
committee which will be

3670
02:03:18,083 --> 02:03:20,916
presented by the committee's

3671
02:03:19,950 --> 02:03:22,516
chair, council member chavez.

3672
02:03:21,716 --> 02:03:24,950
» Thank you mr. President,

3673
02:03:22,616 --> 02:03:26,583
we're bringing forth three

3674
02:03:25,050 --> 02:03:29,150
items. Item 1, consent to the

3675
02:03:26,683 --> 02:03:30,750
mayor's nomination of kayla to

3676
02:03:29,250 --> 02:03:32,583
the point of position of civil

3677
02:03:30,850 --> 02:03:35,750
rights commissioner director.

3678
02:03:32,666 --> 02:03:37,150
item 2, considers the contract

3679
02:03:35,850 --> 02:03:38,950
with sky deal for a pilot

3680
02:03:37,250 --> 02:03:40,250
program. This item was sent

3681
02:03:39,050 --> 02:03:42,516
forward without recommendation.

3682
02:03:40,350 --> 02:03:44,016
item 3, accepts a donation with

3683
02:03:42,616 --> 02:03:45,783
the university of chicago for

3684
02:03:44,116 --> 02:03:49,050
police inspector molly fisher to

3685
02:03:45,883 --> 02:03:50,650
attend the policing leadership

3686
02:03:49,150 --> 02:03:52,850
academy. Move approval of item

3687
02:03:50,750 --> 02:03:54,583
number 3 and I will pull out for

3688
02:03:52,950 --> 02:03:59,483
discussion item 1 for a motion

3689
02:03:54,683 --> 02:04:01,516
and 2 for discussion.

3690
02:03:59,583 --> 02:04:03,783
» Council member chavez has

3691
02:04:01,616 --> 02:04:05,216
moved item 3 in the report and

3692
02:04:03,883 --> 02:04:06,583
we're going to take each one of

3693
02:04:05,316 --> 02:04:07,716
these up separately so council

3694
02:04:06,683 --> 02:04:09,650
member chavez, do y want to

3695
02:04:07,816 --> 02:04:11,616
make a motion for item number 1?

3696
02:04:09,983 --> 02:04:14,316
» I would like to move approval

3697
02:04:11,916 --> 02:04:16,383
of item number 1 and I want to

3698
02:04:14,416 --> 02:04:20,016
thank director kayla for

3699
02:04:16,483 --> 02:04:21,683
stepping up for this fresh term

3700
02:04:20,116 --> 02:04:24,016
as a permanent civil rights

3701
02:04:21,783 --> 02:04:25,250
department director. I'm

3702
02:04:24,116 --> 02:04:27,616
thankful for her work and I

3703
02:04:25,350 --> 02:04:31,116
wanted to send my kudos.

3704
02:04:27,716 --> 02:04:34,316
» Okay. We have items 1 and 2

3705
02:04:31,216 --> 02:04:35,583
moved -- sorry, 1 and 3 moved

3706
02:04:34,416 --> 02:04:39,916
for approval. Is there any

3707
02:04:35,683 --> 02:04:40,450
discussion on these items?

3708
02:04:40,016 --> 02:04:41,283
council member chowdhury.

3709
02:04:40,750 --> 02:04:45,183
» Thank you, president payne. I

3710
02:04:41,383 --> 02:04:45,916
wish I would have caught the

3711
02:04:45,316 --> 02:04:47,550
it previous to the appointment

3712
02:04:46,016 --> 02:04:50,916
of the city assessor. I hope

3713
02:04:47,650 --> 02:04:59,983
that I can just speak highly of

3714
02:04:51,016 --> 02:05:02,783
both director kayla and director

3715
02:05:00,083 --> 02:05:04,616
rebecca. Really excited to

3716
02:05:02,883 --> 02:05:07,816
supporting two phenomenal women

3717
02:05:05,016 --> 02:05:09,750
in leadership whose staff really

3718
02:05:07,916 --> 02:05:11,150
just love working for the

3719
02:05:09,850 --> 02:05:12,916
departments at they'r in and

3720
02:05:11,250 --> 02:05:16,883
they're fging ahead on really

3721
02:05:13,016 --> 02:05:18,116
wonderful work. I want to thank

3722
02:05:16,983 --> 02:05:20,083
the director of civil rights

3723
02:05:18,216 --> 02:05:21,650
that we're going to appoint, it

3724
02:05:20,183 --> 02:05:23,550
seems like, today for taking the

3725
02:05:21,750 --> 02:05:24,883
time with me and sitting down

3726
02:05:23,650 --> 02:05:26,383
and really talking through all

3727
02:05:24,983 --> 02:05:28,850
of the things you worked on and

3728
02:05:26,483 --> 02:05:31,683
the vision for the future ahead.

3729
02:05:29,150 --> 02:05:34,516
I think it's an ambitious vision

3730
02:05:31,783 --> 02:05:35,716
and I look forward to a future

3731
02:05:34,616 --> 02:05:37,483
wher the civil rights

3732
02:05:35,816 --> 02:05:39,850
department is a first resort for

3733
02:05:37,583 --> 02:05:41,150
all minneapolis residents,

3734
02:05:39,950 --> 02:05:42,950
especially in seeking justice

3735
02:05:41,250 --> 02:05:46,250
for the number of things that we

3736
02:05:43,050 --> 02:05:50,016
aid in. As it comes to rebecca,

3737
02:05:46,550 --> 02:05:52,083
I want t thank her for our

3738
02:05:50,116 --> 02:05:54,116
meeting. She brought her whole

3739
02:05:52,183 --> 02:05:56,483
team and we went through some of

3740
02:05:54,216 --> 02:05:58,283
the weeds of assessment in the

3741
02:05:56,583 --> 02:05:59,983
12th ward and the city of

3742
02:05:58,383 --> 02:06:03,650
minneapolis and it was really

3743
02:06:00,083 --> 02:06:06,216
valuable for me and my staff.

3744
02:06:03,750 --> 02:06:08,350
it's a really, like technical

3745
02:06:06,316 --> 02:06:09,783
and cumbersome level of

3746
02:06:08,450 --> 02:06:12,083
information to understand city

3747
02:06:09,883 --> 02:06:13,016
assessments, but her team did a

3748
02:06:12,183 --> 02:06:14,583
phenomenal job of explaing

3749
02:06:13,116 --> 02:06:16,183
what that was and it was really

3750
02:06:14,683 --> 02:06:18,216
great to meet the assessors that

3751
02:06:16,350 --> 02:06:20,050
do the job on the ground each

3752
02:06:18,316 --> 02:06:21,183
and every day. I think it's

3753
02:06:20,150 --> 02:06:24,316
wonderful we're getting to

3754
02:06:21,283 --> 02:06:25,583
appoint her as she is a leader

3755
02:06:24,416 --> 02:06:28,450
nationally on assessment work

3756
02:06:25,683 --> 02:06:30,650
across the country and she also

3757
02:06:28,550 --> 02:06:33,783
is a professor in this work and

3758
02:06:30,750 --> 02:06:35,316
so, we just have some of the

3759
02:06:33,883 --> 02:06:38,116
brightest women in leadership in

3760
02:06:35,416 --> 02:06:39,716
our city and I'm proud to

3761
02:06:38,216 --> 02:06:41,816
support them.

3762
02:06:39,950 --> 02:06:44,050
» Seeing no one else in queue,

3763
02:06:41,916 --> 02:06:46,983
I will ask the clerk to call the

3764
02:06:44,150 --> 02:06:48,250
roll on items 1 and 3.

3765
02:06:47,083 --> 02:06:48,750
» Council member chav.

3766
02:06:48,350 --> 02:06:49,683
» Aye.

3767
02:06:48,850 --> 02:06:51,316
» Council member warren.

3768
02:06:49,783 --> 02:06:51,883
» Aye.

3769
02:06:51,416 --> 02:06:52,150
» Council member shaffer.

3770
02:06:51,983 --> 02:06:52,716
» Aye.

3771
02:06:52,250 --> 02:06:53,883
» Council member wonsley.

3772
02:06:52,816 --> 02:06:54,450
» Aye.

3773
02:06:53,983 --> 02:06:54,716
» Council member whiting.

3774
02:06:54,550 --> 02:06:56,150
» Aye.

3775
02:06:54,816 --> 02:06:56,850
» Council member chowdhury.

3776
02:06:56,250 --> 02:06:57,450
» Aye.

3777
02:06:56,950 --> 02:06:57,950
» Council member stevenson.

3778
02:06:57,550 --> 02:06:58,783
» Aye.

3779
02:06:58,050 --> 02:06:59,383
» Council member rainville.

3780
02:06:58,883 --> 02:07:00,333
» Aye.

3781
02:06:59,483 --> 02:07:00,833
» Council member vetaw.

3782
02:07:00,433 --> 02:07:01,766
» Aye.

3783
02:07:00,933 --> 02:07:02,100
» Council member palmisano.

3784
02:07:01,866 --> 02:07:03,166
» Aye.

3785
02:07:02,466 --> 02:07:03,833
» Vice president osman.

3786
02:07:03,266 --> 02:07:04,533
» Aye.

3787
02:07:03,916 --> 02:07:04,900
» President payne.

3788
02:07:04,633 --> 02:07:07,033
» Aye.

3789
02:07:05,333 --> 02:07:08,700
» There are 12 ayes.

3790
02:07:07,133 --> 02:07:13,666
» Those items carry. Next we

3791
02:07:08,800 --> 02:07:16,766
will take up item number 2, the

3792
02:07:13,766 --> 02:07:17,366
sky deal contract. Is there any

3793
02:07:16,866 --> 02:07:17,600
discussion? Council member

3794
02:07:17,466 --> 02:07:19,400
vetaw.

3795
02:07:18,100 --> 02:07:21,933
» Thank you, president payne.

3796
02:07:19,500 --> 02:07:23,166
first, I just want to take the

3797
02:07:22,033 --> 02:07:25,500
time to thank lots of people who

3798
02:07:23,266 --> 02:07:26,733
had been helping on this pilot

3799
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:29,000
project. This has been in the

3800
02:07:26,833 --> 02:07:31,800
making for 2.5 yea. So, I want

3801
02:07:29,166 --> 02:07:34,066
to thank my team, I want to

3802
02:07:31,900 --> 02:07:36,066
thank d.c. Campbell, who has a

3803
02:07:34,166 --> 02:07:38,966
couple of promotions since we

3804
02:07:36,166 --> 02:07:41,066
started this work, sergeant, the

3805
02:07:39,066 --> 02:07:44,300
pilot for drones and the

3806
02:07:41,166 --> 02:07:47,666
minneapolis police department,

3807
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:49,233
andy, john in the mayor's

3808
02:07:47,766 --> 02:07:51,933
office, minneapolis fire,

3809
02:07:49,333 --> 02:07:53,300
regulatory services, public

3810
02:07:52,033 --> 02:07:54,866
works, 9-1-1, there has been a

3811
02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:57,366
lot of us working on this

3812
02:07:54,966 --> 02:07:58,900
project for 2.5 years and so,

3813
02:07:57,466 --> 02:08:01,133
thank you all for all the work

3814
02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:03,200
you have done. Then I want to

3815
02:08:01,233 --> 02:08:07,400
start my comments out by saying

3816
02:08:03,300 --> 02:08:10,866
since the day I was collectrd --

3817
02:08:07,500 --> 02:08:13,200
elected, I made a commitment, to

3818
02:08:10,966 --> 02:08:15,266
work every day to solve the

3819
02:08:13,300 --> 02:08:16,966
problems they face, faster

3820
02:08:15,366 --> 02:08:18,900
police response times, cleaner

3821
02:08:17,066 --> 02:08:20,466
streets, and less violent crime.

3822
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:21,766
year after year, I had to tell

3823
02:08:20,566 --> 02:08:23,566
them that we cannot make the

3824
02:08:21,866 --> 02:08:25,000
progress they deserve because we

3825
02:08:23,866 --> 02:08:27,700
do not have enough officers on

3826
02:08:25,100 --> 02:08:29,333
our streets. I am tired of

3827
02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:31,100
saying that. I fought for

3828
02:08:29,433 --> 02:08:33,366
solutions, but came up short. I

3829
02:08:31,300 --> 02:08:35,333
am tired of explaining that we

3830
02:08:33,466 --> 02:08:38,133
lost two additional officers to

3831
02:08:35,433 --> 02:08:38,966
the non-fatal shooting task

3832
02:08:38,233 --> 02:08:41,466
force after council member

3833
02:08:39,066 --> 02:08:42,933
wonsley's proposals passed. I'm

3834
02:08:41,566 --> 02:08:44,700
tired of telling residents we

3835
02:08:43,033 --> 02:08:46,266
lost an alternative to

3836
02:08:44,783 --> 02:08:48,066
traditional policing when my

3837
02:08:46,366 --> 02:08:49,466
colleagues voted to end the

3838
02:08:48,166 --> 02:08:51,266
contract with knew salem. I'm

3839
02:08:49,566 --> 02:08:52,633
tired of explaining that we

3840
02:08:51,366 --> 02:08:53,933
cannot secure much needed

3841
02:08:52,733 --> 02:08:54,800
additional crime prevention

3842
02:08:54,033 --> 02:08:56,900
specialists because I could not

3843
02:08:54,900 --> 02:08:58,733
get the votes. I am tired of

3844
02:08:57,000 --> 02:09:00,500
telling neighbors they must live

3845
02:08:58,833 --> 02:09:04,100
with the safety operation center

3846
02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:04,766
in front of their homes because

3847
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:07,233
my colleagues eliminated the

3848
02:09:04,866 --> 02:09:09,733
other option. Most of all, I am

3849
02:09:07,333 --> 02:09:11,700
tired of watching my community

3850
02:09:09,833 --> 02:09:13,900
absorb one loss after another

3851
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:16,500
and then facing my constituents,

3852
02:09:14,000 --> 02:09:19,333
knowing their concerns remain

3853
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:22,833
unresolved. They deserve bter

3854
02:09:19,433 --> 02:09:24,033
than excuses, they deserve

3855
02:09:22,933 --> 02:09:26,066
results. If I had the powero

3856
02:09:24,133 --> 02:09:29,333
make these changes on my own, I

3857
02:09:26,166 --> 02:09:30,433
would, but I am not. I'm one of

3858
02:09:29,433 --> 02:09:31,833
13 members on the council,

3859
02:09:30,533 --> 02:09:34,733
meeting with residents every

3860
02:09:31,933 --> 02:09:35,833
day, and that is my

3861
02:09:34,833 --> 02:09:37,266
responsibility. The

3862
02:09:35,933 --> 02:09:39,500
responsibility is on all of us

3863
02:09:37,400 --> 02:09:42,033
to make sure they are safe. What

3864
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:44,566
I am proposing is not a

3865
02:09:42,133 --> 02:09:45,400
permanent solution, it's a free

3866
02:09:44,666 --> 02:09:47,533
75-day pilot program, it's a

3867
02:09:45,500 --> 02:09:49,333
chance to test the technology,

3868
02:09:47,633 --> 02:09:50,533
evaluate the results, a

3869
02:09:49,433 --> 02:09:54,333
determine whether it works for

3870
02:09:50,633 --> 02:09:56,066
our city or not. I also want to

3871
02:09:54,433 --> 02:10:01,833
address concerns about privacy

3872
02:09:56,166 --> 02:10:03,566
and accountability. Skydio will

3873
02:10:01,933 --> 02:10:05,100
not have the data, it remains

3874
02:10:03,666 --> 02:10:07,466
with the minneapolis police

3875
02:10:05,200 --> 02:10:08,800
department and every deployment

3876
02:10:07,566 --> 02:10:10,633
is documented through a public

3877
02:10:08,900 --> 02:10:12,400
dashboard that shows where the

3878
02:10:10,733 --> 02:10:14,566
drone was used, why it was used

3879
02:10:12,500 --> 02:10:16,333
and how it was used. This is a

3880
02:10:14,666 --> 02:10:17,200
pilot built with transparency

3881
02:10:16,433 --> 02:10:20,066
and public accountability from

3882
02:10:17,300 --> 02:10:23,600
the start. I have also heard

3883
02:10:20,166 --> 02:10:24,866
concerns about skydio's business

3884
02:10:23,700 --> 02:10:26,066
relationship with federal

3885
02:10:24,966 --> 02:10:27,333
agencies but if our standard is

3886
02:10:26,166 --> 02:10:29,266
that we cannot work with any

3887
02:10:27,433 --> 02:10:31,933
company that has contracts with

3888
02:10:29,366 --> 02:10:33,966
a federal agency who has

3889
02:10:32,033 --> 02:10:35,500
policies we oppose, we will

3890
02:10:34,066 --> 02:10:38,233
quickly find that standard

3891
02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:38,933
impossible to apply

3892
02:10:38,333 --> 02:10:41,300
consistently. The question

3893
02:10:39,033 --> 02:10:43,766
before us is, will this pilot

3894
02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:46,400
help the people of minneapolis?

3895
02:10:43,866 --> 02:10:52,800
will it operate under minnesota

3896
02:10:46,500 --> 02:10:54,233
state law and minnesoapolis's

3897
02:10:52,900 --> 02:10:55,066
policies and with full

3898
02:10:54,333 --> 02:10:57,700
transparency. I believe the

3899
02:10:55,166 --> 02:10:59,333
answer is yes. When I saw this

3900
02:10:57,800 --> 02:11:00,700
technology demonstrated, I saw a

3901
02:10:59,433 --> 02:11:03,233
practical way to make better use

3902
02:11:00,833 --> 02:11:05,600
of the resources we already

3903
02:11:03,333 --> 02:11:06,400
have. This is not about

3904
02:11:05,700 --> 02:11:08,500
replacing human interaction,

3905
02:11:06,500 --> 02:11:10,933
this is about giving our

3906
02:11:08,600 --> 02:11:13,833
existing personnel another tool

3907
02:11:11,033 --> 02:11:15,833
to respond more quickly and more

3908
02:11:13,933 --> 02:11:18,600
efficiently. Today, the average

3909
02:11:15,933 --> 02:11:19,833
police response time in the

3910
02:11:18,700 --> 02:11:21,966
fourth precinct is more than 7

3911
02:11:19,933 --> 02:11:23,966
minutes. With this pilot

3912
02:11:22,066 --> 02:11:25,900
response time for eligible cause

3913
02:11:24,066 --> 02:11:27,866
could be reduced to under 2

3914
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:30,800
minutes. So far this year, there

3915
02:11:27,966 --> 02:11:32,000
have been more than 7,800 calls

3916
02:11:30,933 --> 02:11:35,433
whe this technology could have

3917
02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:37,200
been deployed. Roughly 40 calls

3918
02:11:35,533 --> 02:11:40,866
every day. Those are thousands

3919
02:11:37,833 --> 02:11:43,600
of opportunities to get help to

3920
02:11:40,950 --> 02:11:45,366
residents, faster while allowing

3921
02:11:43,700 --> 02:11:46,900
officers to focus on the calls

3922
02:11:45,466 --> 02:11:48,666
that require an in-person

3923
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:51,200
response. Take the story of

3924
02:11:48,766 --> 02:11:53,400
mr. Bob stewart, an 82-year-old

3925
02:11:51,300 --> 02:11:55,866
marine veteran in ward 4

3926
02:11:53,500 --> 02:11:57,800
resident who went missing for

3927
02:11:55,966 --> 02:12:00,066
5.5 hours and was eventually

3928
02:11:57,900 --> 02:12:01,900
found having fallen into shingle

3929
02:12:00,166 --> 02:12:06,033
creek. After a drone was finally

3930
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:07,133
deployed, it found him in just 9

3931
02:12:06,133 --> 02:12:08,300
minutes. Under this pilot

3932
02:12:07,233 --> 02:12:12,266
program, a drone could have been

3933
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:12,900
in the air in under 2 minutes,

3934
02:12:12,366 --> 02:12:14,633
once the 9-1-1 call came in

3935
02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:16,533
instead of waiting for

3936
02:12:14,733 --> 02:12:18,233
deployment. In emergencies,

3937
02:12:16,633 --> 02:12:20,866
minutes matter. We can never

3938
02:12:18,333 --> 02:12:23,633
know the outcome of every case

3939
02:12:20,966 --> 02:12:26,066
but what we do know is that

3940
02:12:23,733 --> 02:12:28,033
getting ayes on a missing person

3941
02:12:26,166 --> 02:12:30,066
sooner can make the difference

3942
02:12:28,133 --> 02:12:31,666
between life and death. If this

3943
02:12:30,166 --> 02:12:33,666
progm saves one life, it's

3944
02:12:31,766 --> 02:12:35,766
worth trying. If it doesn't

3945
02:12:33,766 --> 02:12:38,000
deliver the results we expect,

3946
02:12:35,866 --> 02:12:39,400
that's why it's a 75-day pilot

3947
02:12:38,100 --> 02:12:42,033
program. We evaluate it and we

3948
02:12:39,500 --> 02:12:45,066
make a decision based on

3949
02:12:42,133 --> 02:12:46,733
evidence. St. Paul, duluth,

3950
02:12:45,166 --> 02:12:48,633
rochester, minnetonka, brooklyn

3951
02:12:46,833 --> 02:12:50,966
park are already using this

3952
02:12:48,733 --> 02:12:52,266
technology from the same

3953
02:12:51,066 --> 02:12:54,100
company. Members of this body

3954
02:12:52,366 --> 02:12:56,433
often look to these cities for

3955
02:12:54,200 --> 02:12:58,566
ideas on policies and programs.

3956
02:12:56,533 --> 02:13:01,833
members of this body look to

3957
02:12:58,666 --> 02:13:03,666
duluth for bathhouses and safe

3958
02:13:01,933 --> 02:13:06,600
bays. Members of this body look

3959
02:13:03,766 --> 02:13:08,833
for rent control and non-fatal

3960
02:13:06,700 --> 02:13:10,566
shooting tasks rce. If we look

3961
02:13:08,933 --> 02:13:11,933
to them for those initiatives,

3962
02:13:10,666 --> 02:13:13,433
why don't we look to them for a

3963
02:13:12,033 --> 02:13:16,133
tool they have found success

3964
02:13:13,533 --> 02:13:17,733
with and has the potential to

3965
02:13:16,233 --> 02:13:19,233
improve the public safety and

3966
02:13:17,833 --> 02:13:21,000
city services. At times, it

3967
02:13:19,333 --> 02:13:24,200
feels like members of this body

3968
02:13:21,100 --> 02:13:25,466
are searching for reasons to say

3969
02:13:24,400 --> 02:13:26,866
no instead of looking for

3970
02:13:25,566 --> 02:13:28,366
reasons to give this pilot a

3971
02:13:26,966 --> 02:13:30,566
chance, to make the outcome of

3972
02:13:28,466 --> 02:13:33,233
this decision hinge on whether a

3973
02:13:30,666 --> 02:13:35,066
country halfway around the world

3974
02:13:33,333 --> 02:13:36,000
purchases equipment from the

3975
02:13:35,166 --> 02:13:38,766
same company does not make sense

3976
02:13:36,233 --> 02:13:41,200
to me. I do not believe that

3977
02:13:38,866 --> 02:13:42,166
this is a reasonable basis for

3978
02:13:41,300 --> 02:13:43,700
deciding whether our residents

3979
02:13:42,266 --> 02:13:46,166
should have access to a tool

3980
02:13:43,800 --> 02:13:49,500
that can improve public safety.

3981
02:13:46,266 --> 02:13:50,900
at some point, we havto decide

3982
02:13:49,600 --> 02:13:54,266
whether our responsibility is to

3983
02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:56,633
reject any imperfect option or

3984
02:13:54,366 --> 02:13:57,666
to test ideas that can make a

3985
02:13:56,733 --> 02:13:59,733
meaningful difference for the

3986
02:13:57,766 --> 02:14:01,533
people we serve. This is all

3987
02:13:59,833 --> 02:14:07,333
about a pilot. That is all I am

3988
02:14:01,633 --> 02:14:07,866
asking for, a pilot. Thank you.

3989
02:14:07,433 --> 02:14:08,866
» Council member chavez.

3990
02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:10,566
» Thanks president payne, I

3991
02:14:08,966 --> 02:14:12,500
want to thank the public for

3992
02:14:10,666 --> 02:14:13,800
engaging on this topic. It

3993
02:14:12,600 --> 02:14:16,033
allowed me to look more deeply

3994
02:14:13,900 --> 02:14:17,966
into this tool. I have a few

3995
02:14:16,133 --> 02:14:20,800
questions for the minneapolis

3996
02:14:18,066 --> 02:14:24,466
police department. First, before

3997
02:14:20,900 --> 02:14:27,966
this was brought to council, did

3998
02:14:24,566 --> 02:14:31,366
mpd do any due diligence on

3999
02:14:28,066 --> 02:14:37,500
skydio's contracts or do they

4000
02:14:31,466 --> 02:14:38,066
sell drones to ice or other dhs

4001
02:14:37,600 --> 02:14:41,566
components?

4002
02:14:39,400 --> 02:14:44,833
» Deputy chief.

4003
02:14:41,766 --> 02:14:50,600
» Council president payne,

4004
02:14:44,933 --> 02:14:52,400
council meer chavez, I run the

4005
02:14:50,700 --> 02:14:53,000
day-to-day operations for the

4006
02:14:52,500 --> 02:14:55,766
drone program.

4007
02:14:53,233 --> 02:14:57,500
» Good morning, I'm the drone

4008
02:14:55,866 --> 02:14:59,766
coordinator for the minneapolis

4009
02:14:57,600 --> 02:15:02,100
police department, council

4010
02:14:59,866 --> 02:15:07,833
member payne and chavez, prior

4011
02:15:04,366 --> 02:15:09,966
to looking into skydio, we did

4012
02:15:07,966 --> 02:15:12,400
do our due diligence. If we were

4013
02:15:10,066 --> 02:15:13,500
to look at every other company

4014
02:15:12,500 --> 02:15:15,333
that we're also associated with

4015
02:15:13,600 --> 02:15:17,166
difficult types of technologies

4016
02:15:15,433 --> 02:15:19,966
or tools, we wouldn't be able to

4017
02:15:17,266 --> 02:15:21,700
get anywhere at all. We did look

4018
02:15:20,066 --> 02:15:22,933
into them, but more so we

4019
02:15:21,800 --> 02:15:24,233
focused on the good they were

4020
02:15:23,033 --> 02:15:25,766
doing and we focused on the fact

4021
02:15:24,333 --> 02:15:31,300
that they were contracted

4022
02:15:25,866 --> 02:15:32,066
partners with one of our largest

4023
02:15:31,400 --> 02:15:33,733
evidence management.

4024
02:15:32,233 --> 02:15:35,700
» Thank you, and in california,

4025
02:15:33,833 --> 02:15:39,433
they spent over $1 million in

4026
02:15:35,800 --> 02:15:40,666
legal fees to withhold drone

4027
02:15:39,533 --> 02:15:42,800
footage, and lost at the

4028
02:15:40,766 --> 02:15:44,766
california supreme court. Has

4029
02:15:42,900 --> 02:15:46,700
mpd reviewed the public records

4030
02:15:44,866 --> 02:15:50,433
law and how it would apply to

4031
02:15:46,800 --> 02:15:51,366
this footage and would mpd be

4032
02:15:50,533 --> 02:15:54,600
withholding drone footage from

4033
02:15:51,466 --> 02:15:58,800
the public?

4034
02:15:56,416 --> 02:15:59,800
» Council member payne and

4035
02:15:58,900 --> 02:16:01,233
council member chavez, we're a

4036
02:15:59,900 --> 02:16:03,833
little bit different than true

4037
02:16:02,133 --> 02:16:05,866
la vista because we have

4038
02:16:03,933 --> 02:16:07,166
safeguards in place. We have

4039
02:16:05,966 --> 02:16:09,566
safeguards with our state law,

4040
02:16:07,266 --> 02:16:11,566
with our department policy. What

4041
02:16:09,666 --> 02:16:13,966
true la vista did, they operated

4042
02:16:11,666 --> 02:16:18,133
their drones under a blanket as

4043
02:16:14,400 --> 02:16:19,066
in they withheld all the data as

4044
02:16:18,233 --> 02:16:20,833
evidentiary data and when the

4045
02:16:19,166 --> 02:16:22,300
lawsuit came forward, they were

4046
02:16:20,933 --> 02:16:25,400
basically stuck in a tight

4047
02:16:22,400 --> 02:16:27,016
place. We're not like true la

4048
02:16:25,500 --> 02:16:28,300
vista. We're all about

4049
02:16:27,133 --> 02:16:30,466
transparency, we will have a

4050
02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:31,800
public dash board, and we will

4051
02:16:30,566 --> 02:16:35,133
abide by state law because state

4052
02:16:31,900 --> 02:16:37,500
law requires us to delete all

4053
02:16:35,233 --> 02:16:39,733
non-evidentiary value within 7

4054
02:16:37,600 --> 02:16:41,300
days. If there is a public data

4055
02:16:39,833 --> 02:16:44,066
request within the minnesota

4056
02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:47,166
state statute, all drone video

4057
02:16:44,316 --> 02:16:51,300
is considered private data,

4058
02:16:47,266 --> 02:16:52,433
however if there is any video of

4059
02:16:51,400 --> 02:16:55,133
non-evidentiary data that is

4060
02:16:52,533 --> 02:16:57,433
going to be categorized, and

4061
02:16:55,233 --> 02:16:59,100
within seven days, it has to be

4062
02:16:57,533 --> 02:17:00,500
deleted. If there are public

4063
02:16:59,200 --> 02:17:02,000
data questions within those

4064
02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:02,966
seven days, it will be up to the

4065
02:17:02,100 --> 02:17:04,800
records unit to determine if

4066
02:17:03,066 --> 02:17:06,233
they can release those videos.

4067
02:17:04,900 --> 02:17:07,566
on the minneapolis police side,

4068
02:17:06,333 --> 02:17:10,200
we're going to abide by state

4069
02:17:07,666 --> 02:17:12,033
law and the department policy.

4070
02:17:10,333 --> 02:17:14,800
» Flight records show these

4071
02:17:12,133 --> 02:17:16,633
drones were launched to surveil

4072
02:17:15,300 --> 02:17:19,466
a january 31st ice out protest

4073
02:17:17,000 --> 02:17:20,466
in los angeles, which saw

4074
02:17:19,566 --> 02:17:22,400
thousands peacefully protest

4075
02:17:20,566 --> 02:17:23,833
against the trump

4076
02:17:22,500 --> 02:17:26,200
administration. Will mpd follow

4077
02:17:23,933 --> 02:17:27,133
suit and use these drones to

4078
02:17:26,300 --> 02:17:28,866
respond to 1st amendment

4079
02:17:27,233 --> 02:17:30,466
protected activities like

4080
02:17:28,966 --> 02:17:32,866
protests, marches, vigils,

4081
02:17:30,566 --> 02:17:35,566
demonstrations, regardless of

4082
02:17:32,966 --> 02:17:37,900
call volume.

4083
02:17:36,466 --> 02:17:38,833
» Council member payne and

4084
02:17:38,000 --> 02:17:40,733
council member chavez, we will

4085
02:17:38,933 --> 02:17:42,266
not be following suit. We will

4086
02:17:40,833 --> 02:17:45,966
follow what state law dictates

4087
02:17:42,366 --> 02:17:47,700
we can do. We respect people's

4088
02:17:46,066 --> 02:17:49,300
1st amendment rights. As public

4089
02:17:47,800 --> 02:17:51,333
servants, that's what we do. We

4090
02:17:49,400 --> 02:17:52,633
help preserve people's civil

4091
02:17:51,433 --> 02:17:54,300
rights and civil liberties, but

4092
02:17:52,866 --> 02:17:55,900
if there is an emergency

4093
02:17:54,400 --> 02:17:57,400
situation that fits state law

4094
02:17:56,000 --> 02:17:59,400
and our department policy allows

4095
02:17:57,500 --> 02:18:00,733
us to, we will utilize this

4096
02:17:59,500 --> 02:18:02,933
technology to help out the

4097
02:18:00,833 --> 02:18:06,266
community the best we can.

4098
02:18:03,433 --> 02:18:08,066
» A wired article states a

4099
02:18:06,366 --> 02:18:09,600
drone followed two young men in

4100
02:18:08,166 --> 02:18:11,466
their car, at least one of them

4101
02:18:09,700 --> 02:18:13,500
who is described in police

4102
02:18:11,566 --> 02:18:15,800
records being identified as a

4103
02:18:13,600 --> 02:18:16,866
suspicious person in a vehicle

4104
02:18:15,900 --> 02:18:18,466
and then two men emerged on to a

4105
02:18:16,966 --> 02:18:20,300
basketball court and started

4106
02:18:18,566 --> 02:18:22,566
playing, and the drone departed.

4107
02:18:20,400 --> 02:18:24,966
how does mpd feel about this?

4108
02:18:23,166 --> 02:18:25,633
» Council member payne and

4109
02:18:25,066 --> 02:18:27,200
council member chavez, for an

4110
02:18:25,733 --> 02:18:28,500
incident like that, we wouldn't

4111
02:18:27,366 --> 02:18:29,733
be utilizing drones for a

4112
02:18:28,600 --> 02:18:31,000
situation like that. So I don't

4113
02:18:29,833 --> 02:18:33,266
know what their polies are,

4114
02:18:31,100 --> 02:18:34,233
but I can only speak to our

4115
02:18:33,366 --> 02:18:36,100
policies. We wouldn't be

4116
02:18:34,333 --> 02:18:36,400
operating drones in that

4117
02:18:36,200 --> 02:18:40,266
situation.

4118
02:18:36,500 --> 02:18:41,800
» Given that maninneapolis

4119
02:18:40,366 --> 02:18:44,766
residents spent months

4120
02:18:41,900 --> 02:18:50,733
documenting unmarked

4121
02:18:44,866 --> 02:18:53,800
surveillance and ice activity,

4122
02:18:50,833 --> 02:18:55,700
how could this not be mistaken

4123
02:18:53,900 --> 02:18:57,966
from aerial surveillance in the

4124
02:18:55,800 --> 02:19:00,733
ayes of minneapolis residents,

4125
02:18:58,066 --> 02:19:02,533
besides the police markings that

4126
02:19:00,833 --> 02:19:04,900
are hard to identify in the air.

4127
02:19:03,400 --> 02:19:06,033
» Council member payne and

4128
02:19:05,000 --> 02:19:07,600
council member chavez, right now

4129
02:19:06,333 --> 02:19:09,200
we don't have any detection

4130
02:19:07,700 --> 02:19:11,000
systems at all. Whether a drone

4131
02:19:09,300 --> 02:19:12,366
is in the sky, no one in the

4132
02:19:11,100 --> 02:19:14,766
city is going to know whether

4133
02:19:12,466 --> 02:19:17,833
it's a police drone, whether

4134
02:19:14,866 --> 02:19:20,066
it's a federal one, or it's a

4135
02:19:17,933 --> 02:19:21,500
recreational user. What I would

4136
02:19:20,166 --> 02:19:26,133
suggest to the community with

4137
02:19:21,600 --> 02:19:28,300
concerns is that they identify a

4138
02:19:26,233 --> 02:19:29,433
drone in the air, they have

4139
02:19:28,400 --> 02:19:31,266
concerns, they can call us and

4140
02:19:29,533 --> 02:19:32,333
we can go out there and document

4141
02:19:31,366 --> 02:19:35,900
it. I am in charge of the drone

4142
02:19:32,433 --> 02:19:37,400
program so I will oversee all

4143
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:39,266
the reports and I can follow up

4144
02:19:37,500 --> 02:19:41,166
with them through the marshals

4145
02:19:39,366 --> 02:19:42,366
or the faa. I will follow up on

4146
02:19:41,266 --> 02:19:46,166
all the complaints.

4147
02:19:42,466 --> 02:19:48,900
» Will drone data be included

4148
02:19:46,266 --> 02:19:51,400
in the mpd reports to the

4149
02:19:49,000 --> 02:19:52,566
settlement agreement monitor so

4150
02:19:51,500 --> 02:19:54,333
racially disparent patterns are

4151
02:19:52,666 --> 02:19:54,566
tracked from day one and not

4152
02:19:54,433 --> 02:19:56,200
after.

4153
02:19:54,800 --> 02:19:57,600
» Council member payne and

4154
02:19:56,300 --> 02:19:59,900
council member chavez, all of

4155
02:19:57,700 --> 02:20:01,666
the data, all of the metrics we

4156
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,866
are going to be documenting,

4157
02:20:01,766 --> 02:20:03,533
we're not going to be

4158
02:20:02,966 --> 02:20:04,900
documenting race or anything

4159
02:20:03,633 --> 02:20:09,666
like that. We will be

4160
02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:11,066
documenting drones based off of

4161
02:20:09,766 --> 02:20:13,383
behaviors. That's what state

4162
02:20:11,166 --> 02:20:15,500
statute dictates for us to do.

4163
02:20:13,500 --> 02:20:19,800
» Okay, the contract that mpd

4164
02:20:15,600 --> 02:20:22,466
will be signing with this states

4165
02:20:19,900 --> 02:20:23,433
that skydio's use and sharing of

4166
02:20:22,566 --> 02:20:25,733
personal information is governed

4167
02:20:23,600 --> 02:20:27,433
by the company's privacy policy.

4168
02:20:25,833 --> 02:20:28,866
the privacy policy states that

4169
02:20:27,666 --> 02:20:32,100
it does not govern how they

4170
02:20:28,966 --> 02:20:33,133
collect, use, and disclose

4171
02:20:32,200 --> 02:20:34,033
personal information to

4172
02:20:33,233 --> 02:20:35,133
customers who use the type of

4173
02:20:34,133 --> 02:20:37,800
service that we're talking about

4174
02:20:35,233 --> 02:20:43,400
here. So if the privacy policy

4175
02:20:37,900 --> 02:20:49,233
does not govern skydio use of

4176
02:20:43,500 --> 02:20:50,433
sharing personal information, I

4177
02:20:49,333 --> 02:20:52,566
know that skydio claimed they

4178
02:20:50,533 --> 02:20:55,400
will not have access to data. My

4179
02:20:52,666 --> 02:20:56,666
question is, what governs

4180
02:20:55,500 --> 02:20:57,966
skydio's collection use and

4181
02:20:56,766 --> 02:21:01,533
sharing of personnel information

4182
02:20:58,066 --> 02:21:01,733
that they may collect in any

4183
02:21:01,666 --> 02:21:04,166
ans?

4184
02:21:02,066 --> 02:21:05,233
» There is only seconds left.

4185
02:21:04,266 --> 02:21:07,800
all right, we'll have to return

4186
02:21:06,566 --> 02:21:08,066
to that question. Council member

4187
02:21:07,900 --> 02:21:10,533
wonsley.

4188
02:21:08,566 --> 02:21:11,333
» Thank you, president payne.

4189
02:21:10,633 --> 02:21:12,933
also, thank you council member

4190
02:21:11,433 --> 02:21:14,366
chavez for highlighting and

4191
02:21:13,033 --> 02:21:15,766
raising some further concerns

4192
02:21:14,466 --> 02:21:17,033
with skydio that really show

4193
02:21:15,866 --> 02:21:19,333
that this is a company that does

4194
02:21:17,133 --> 02:21:21,366
not align with the city's

4195
02:21:19,433 --> 02:21:22,733
overall values and I have been

4196
02:21:21,466 --> 02:21:27,433
consistent about my skepticism

4197
02:21:22,833 --> 02:21:28,733
and concerns about mpd's drone

4198
02:21:27,533 --> 02:21:29,866
use, which is why I brought

4199
02:21:28,833 --> 02:21:31,600
forward the ordinance that

4200
02:21:29,966 --> 02:21:33,866
allows us to have public

4201
02:21:31,700 --> 02:21:36,166
hearings when mpd is seeking to

4202
02:21:33,966 --> 02:21:39,133
purchase new technology,

4203
02:21:36,266 --> 02:21:39,700
surveillance technology, such as

4204
02:21:39,233 --> 02:21:41,233
the one we're proposed to

4205
02:21:39,800 --> 02:21:43,033
consider today. That said, I do

4206
02:21:41,333 --> 02:21:47,266
think that it's also important

4207
02:21:43,133 --> 02:21:51,600
as we go further into the item

4208
02:21:47,366 --> 02:21:53,433
to make it known that mpd has

4209
02:21:51,700 --> 02:21:58,266
the ability to still purchase

4210
02:21:53,533 --> 02:22:00,100
drones and already have drones.

4211
02:21:58,366 --> 02:22:01,666
mpd can and will likely purchase

4212
02:22:00,200 --> 02:22:03,033
their own drones with their

4213
02:22:01,766 --> 02:22:04,700
budget for as long as the mayor

4214
02:22:03,133 --> 02:22:06,500
allows them to. We cannot stop

4215
02:22:04,800 --> 02:22:07,833
them and I want to make sure I

4216
02:22:06,600 --> 02:22:09,700
level set that because if you

4217
02:22:07,933 --> 02:22:12,200
still see drones in the air and

4218
02:22:09,800 --> 02:22:17,666
think council took up this item

4219
02:22:12,300 --> 02:22:19,400
regardless of the vote outcome,

4220
02:22:17,866 --> 02:22:21,200
I thought I would see those.

4221
02:22:19,500 --> 02:22:22,933
they do have these in their

4222
02:22:21,300 --> 02:22:24,633
possession. Council has the

4223
02:22:23,033 --> 02:22:26,133
right now to vote this contract

4224
02:22:24,733 --> 02:22:31,133
down, knowing that the vendor

4225
02:22:26,233 --> 02:22:33,800
has a documented history of

4226
02:22:31,233 --> 02:22:37,566
having sowed weapons that killed

4227
02:22:33,900 --> 02:22:39,933
innocent people. There are no

4228
02:22:37,666 --> 02:22:43,233
reasons to contract with

4229
02:22:40,033 --> 02:22:46,166
companies that shown a disregard

4230
02:22:43,333 --> 02:22:47,466
to life, including the

4231
02:22:46,266 --> 02:22:49,666
occupation that took the lives

4232
02:22:47,900 --> 02:22:52,200
of two of our residents, and

4233
02:22:49,766 --> 02:22:53,200
created lifelong trauma for a

4234
02:22:52,300 --> 02:22:55,066
north minneapolis resident who

4235
02:22:53,300 --> 02:22:58,366
was also shot and we have seen

4236
02:22:55,166 --> 02:23:00,633
in recent days, several other

4237
02:22:58,466 --> 02:23:04,233
residents of the general public

4238
02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:05,600
be killed at the hands of ice.

4239
02:23:04,333 --> 02:23:06,966
it would be no chance why we

4240
02:23:05,700 --> 02:23:07,266
were asked to consider this

4241
02:23:07,066 --> 02:23:07,566
today.

4242
02:23:07,366 --> 02:23:10,366
[applause].

4243
02:23:07,666 --> 02:23:11,450
» This is and business

4244
02:23:10,466 --> 02:23:13,666
relationship that we're seeking

4245
02:23:11,566 --> 02:23:16,233
out that does not align with the

4246
02:23:13,766 --> 02:23:17,833
values of our residents of our

4247
02:23:16,333 --> 02:23:19,100
city. I am not in support of

4248
02:23:17,933 --> 02:23:20,700
drones overall. One of the main

4249
02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:23,200
reason is because I do not

4250
02:23:20,800 --> 02:23:25,300
trust mpd's ability to practice

4251
02:23:23,300 --> 02:23:26,933
and enforce good policy around

4252
02:23:25,400 --> 02:23:28,966
data collection, especially when

4253
02:23:27,033 --> 02:23:33,166
it's been note in the emotion

4254
02:23:29,066 --> 02:23:36,366
recent elefa report, where they

4255
02:23:33,266 --> 02:23:40,350
have found that mpd was not able

4256
02:23:36,700 --> 02:23:42,100
to use facebook in an ethical

4257
02:23:40,466 --> 02:23:43,900
constitutional way. Why would we

4258
02:23:42,200 --> 02:23:45,366
give new tools when it'sot

4259
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:48,100
very clear and I don't believe

4260
02:23:45,466 --> 02:23:50,833
the elefa report said that we're

4261
02:23:48,433 --> 02:23:52,900
in compliance with being able to

4262
02:23:50,933 --> 02:23:55,500
use facebook even at this

4263
02:23:53,000 --> 02:23:56,866
current moment. With that said,

4264
02:23:55,600 --> 02:23:59,966
earlier this year o, going

4265
02:23:56,966 --> 02:24:02,066
back to the federal occupation,

4266
02:24:00,066 --> 02:24:03,600
residents have repeatedly raised

4267
02:24:02,166 --> 02:24:06,666
concerns around what is the

4268
02:24:03,700 --> 02:24:09,133
city's responses to surveillance

4269
02:24:06,766 --> 02:24:10,900
practices, especially in a way

4270
02:24:09,233 --> 02:24:12,166
which we're protecting our

4271
02:24:11,000 --> 02:24:13,500
residents' private data when the

4272
02:24:12,266 --> 02:24:17,200
federal government is hostile

4273
02:24:13,600 --> 02:24:19,166
and is using a multitude of

4274
02:24:17,300 --> 02:24:20,400
initiatives from extorting

4275
02:24:19,266 --> 02:24:22,166
information and political

4276
02:24:20,500 --> 02:24:24,800
retaliation to try to extract

4277
02:24:22,266 --> 02:24:27,766
information of our residents so

4278
02:24:24,900 --> 02:24:29,266
they can target them. Because of

4279
02:24:27,866 --> 02:24:31,266
that, my office actually brought

4280
02:24:29,366 --> 02:24:37,266
forward a legislative directive

4281
02:24:31,366 --> 02:24:40,266
asking the administration how

4282
02:24:37,366 --> 02:24:41,633
they are employing data

4283
02:24:40,366 --> 02:24:43,833
practices to protect our

4284
02:24:41,733 --> 02:24:44,566
residents and hold ice agents

4285
02:24:43,933 --> 02:24:45,433
accountable when they're

4286
02:24:44,666 --> 02:24:47,800
violating the constitutional

4287
02:24:45,533 --> 02:24:51,233
rights of our residents, and is

4288
02:24:47,900 --> 02:24:52,066
engaging in unlawful behavior.

4289
02:24:51,333 --> 02:24:52,833
despite being requested to

4290
02:24:52,166 --> 02:24:56,833
provide that information about

4291
02:24:52,933 --> 02:24:58,433
their policies, the frey

4292
02:24:56,933 --> 02:25:00,850
administration declined to do

4293
02:24:58,533 --> 02:25:02,266
so. We're having to navigate a

4294
02:25:00,966 --> 02:25:06,400
hostile federal governmt and

4295
02:25:03,033 --> 02:25:08,300
we have not seen the frey

4296
02:25:06,500 --> 02:25:09,300
administration and the office of

4297
02:25:08,400 --> 02:25:10,266
community safety use these

4298
02:25:09,383 --> 02:25:12,500
opportunities to showcase that

4299
02:25:10,366 --> 02:25:18,266
there are thoughtful and

4300
02:25:12,600 --> 02:25:20,866
intentional policies set up to

4301
02:25:18,366 --> 02:25:21,733
center the safety of ordinary

4302
02:25:20,966 --> 02:25:26,500
residents. I don't feel

4303
02:25:21,833 --> 02:25:28,433
confident in the ability to

4304
02:25:26,600 --> 02:25:32,300
enter into this contract. There

4305
02:25:28,533 --> 02:25:34,100
is no such thing as a no cost

4306
02:25:32,400 --> 02:25:35,366
after a 75-day trial period

4307
02:25:34,200 --> 02:25:37,400
where we're going to say no,

4308
02:25:35,466 --> 02:25:39,633
we're not going to move forward.

4309
02:25:37,500 --> 02:25:41,933
that's unrealistic. With that, I

4310
02:25:40,066 --> 02:25:43,200
am going so say no. I want to

4311
02:25:42,033 --> 02:25:44,900
thank the hundreds of residents

4312
02:25:43,300 --> 02:25:48,600
that reached out to council to

4313
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:51,366
share their thoughts, including

4314
02:25:48,700 --> 02:25:52,600
to excess -- came to the

4315
02:25:51,466 --> 02:25:54,366
committee, we had those testify

4316
02:25:52,700 --> 02:25:57,500
around their concerns regarding

4317
02:25:54,466 --> 02:25:59,233
the pilot. Residents overall do

4318
02:25:57,600 --> 02:26:00,433
deserve quality public safety

4319
02:25:59,333 --> 02:26:04,866
services. I do want to highlight

4320
02:26:00,533 --> 02:26:06,733
too that there are so many

4321
02:26:04,966 --> 02:26:08,066
approaches we can employ.

4322
02:26:06,833 --> 02:26:13,066
council member vetaw mentioned

4323
02:26:08,166 --> 02:26:16,133
the non-lethal task force. From

4324
02:26:13,433 --> 02:26:21,033
my understanding, that is all

4325
02:26:16,233 --> 02:26:22,266
based in getting external

4326
02:26:21,133 --> 02:26:26,966
partners, specifically

4327
02:26:22,366 --> 02:26:31,400
investigators to come and help

4328
02:26:27,066 --> 02:26:33,333
us. Many help reduce gun

4329
02:26:31,500 --> 02:26:35,133
violence and do significant work

4330
02:26:33,466 --> 02:26:38,600
to close cases of unsolved

4331
02:26:35,233 --> 02:26:40,800
shootings in our community,

4332
02:26:38,700 --> 02:26:43,633
which we know is happening in

4333
02:26:40,900 --> 02:26:45,133
our community,

4334
02:26:43,733 --> 02:26:47,633
disproportionately in black and

4335
02:26:45,233 --> 02:26:53,300
brown communities. We have seen

4336
02:26:47,733 --> 02:26:55,333
case closure rates for non-fatal

4337
02:26:53,400 --> 02:26:57,066
go up by triple percentages.

4338
02:26:55,433 --> 02:26:59,266
that's less than 2 million. I'm

4339
02:26:57,166 --> 02:27:01,033
grateful that we're employing

4340
02:26:59,366 --> 02:27:03,500
data-backed solutions, one that

4341
02:27:01,133 --> 02:27:05,633
does not hinder or compromises

4342
02:27:03,600 --> 02:27:08,866
our residents' ability, it gives

4343
02:27:05,733 --> 02:27:10,700
targeted resources to our

4344
02:27:08,966 --> 02:27:12,766
residents. They ask mpd to use

4345
02:27:10,800 --> 02:27:14,000
your resources efficiently in a

4346
02:27:12,866 --> 02:27:16,300
way that meets the needs, the

4347
02:27:14,100 --> 02:27:20,633
safety needs of our residents. I

4348
02:27:16,400 --> 02:27:23,566
don't see how this does that.

4349
02:27:20,733 --> 02:27:25,400
there has been a change in

4350
02:27:23,666 --> 02:27:27,300
goalpost on the usage of this.

4351
02:27:25,500 --> 02:27:29,566
we were told this could be used

4352
02:27:27,600 --> 02:27:31,600
to address illegal dumping. Then

4353
02:27:30,066 --> 02:27:32,866
I think there were further

4354
02:27:31,700 --> 02:27:35,366
conversations with legal experts

4355
02:27:32,966 --> 02:27:39,533
to show that maybe that didn't

4356
02:27:35,466 --> 02:27:39,933
fit the guidelines of the state

4357
02:27:39,633 --> 02:27:42,200
statute --

4358
02:27:40,633 --> 02:27:44,533
» Point of order. Could you

4359
02:27:42,300 --> 02:27:46,366
remind the audience of our

4360
02:27:44,633 --> 02:27:52,133
decorum here.

4361
02:27:46,633 --> 02:27:52,866
» You interrupt me when I talk.

4362
02:27:52,333 --> 02:27:54,600
» Council member wonsley has

4363
02:27:52,966 --> 02:27:56,200
not finished her speech. Let's

4364
02:27:54,700 --> 02:28:00,133
give her a minute back, but just

4365
02:27:56,333 --> 02:28:03,166
as a general advisory, council

4366
02:28:00,233 --> 02:28:04,800
rules do not provide comment

4367
02:28:03,266 --> 02:28:06,000
from the public. The purpose of

4368
02:28:04,900 --> 02:28:07,733
this meeting to conduct the

4369
02:28:06,100 --> 02:28:10,533
business of the city, it's not a

4370
02:28:07,833 --> 02:28:11,500
form for public testimony or

4371
02:28:10,633 --> 02:28:13,400
comments under the minnesota

4372
02:28:11,600 --> 02:28:17,866
open meeting law, the committees

4373
02:28:13,500 --> 02:28:19,033
are open to the public for the

4374
02:28:17,966 --> 02:28:21,666
purpose of observation only.

4375
02:28:19,133 --> 02:28:23,166
thoswho purposely disrupt or

4376
02:28:21,766 --> 02:28:25,966
disturb these proceedings and

4377
02:28:23,266 --> 02:28:26,933
interfere with the body's

4378
02:28:26,066 --> 02:28:28,600
ability to conduct the business

4379
02:28:27,400 --> 02:28:31,000
of the city will be asked to

4380
02:28:28,700 --> 02:28:33,166
leave. Those who refuse may be

4381
02:28:31,100 --> 02:28:34,300
removed from the chamber. Clerk,

4382
02:28:33,266 --> 02:28:35,066
can we give council member

4383
02:28:34,400 --> 02:28:36,200
wonsley another minute to

4384
02:28:35,166 --> 02:28:39,566
complete her speech.

4385
02:28:36,300 --> 02:28:40,200
» Thank you, I should not be

4386
02:28:39,650 --> 02:28:41,866
interrupted by council member

4387
02:28:40,300 --> 02:28:43,916
rainville when I am speaking so

4388
02:28:41,966 --> 02:28:45,533
I respect you when you speak, I

4389
02:28:44,033 --> 02:28:47,033
extend that to everyone. I ask

4390
02:28:45,633 --> 02:28:49,200
for the same consideration. So

4391
02:28:47,133 --> 02:28:51,833
with that said, I want to be

4392
02:28:49,300 --> 02:28:53,233
very clear about my concerns

4393
02:28:51,933 --> 02:28:55,733
around this contract that I have

4394
02:28:53,333 --> 02:28:57,766
been consistent about and that

4395
02:28:55,833 --> 02:28:59,033
there are tons of documentation

4396
02:28:57,866 --> 02:29:01,600
that shows this is not

4397
02:28:59,133 --> 02:29:04,233
appropriate for us to enter

4398
02:29:01,700 --> 02:29:05,633
into. So again, I want to thank

4399
02:29:04,333 --> 02:29:07,066
our residents for being bold and

4400
02:29:05,733 --> 02:29:08,866
persistent in raising these

4401
02:29:07,166 --> 02:29:09,833
concerns for holding us account.

4402
02:29:08,966 --> 02:29:13,633
this represents the opportunity

4403
02:29:09,933 --> 02:29:17,266
for us to not set a new

4404
02:29:13,733 --> 02:29:18,200
precedence in entering into what

4405
02:29:17,366 --> 02:29:19,433
is a non-necessary relationship

4406
02:29:18,300 --> 02:29:20,800
with the company that does not

4407
02:29:19,533 --> 02:29:22,166
align with our values, that does

4408
02:29:20,900 --> 02:29:23,366
not support the well-being of

4409
02:29:22,266 --> 02:29:24,366
our residents. Thank you all for

4410
02:29:23,466 --> 02:29:29,033
your leadership and I look

4411
02:29:24,466 --> 02:29:29,300
forward to voting no on this

4412
02:29:29,133 --> 02:29:30,900
contract.

4413
02:29:29,866 --> 02:29:34,766
» Council member palmisano.

4414
02:29:31,233 --> 02:29:36,800
» I am not part of phs

4415
02:29:34,866 --> 02:29:38,200
committee but I watched this

4416
02:29:36,900 --> 02:29:40,066
long public comment period with

4417
02:29:38,300 --> 02:29:42,000
interest and I wanted to address

4418
02:29:40,166 --> 02:29:44,100
the suggestions and feedback we

4419
02:29:42,100 --> 02:29:46,033
received, specifically from the

4420
02:29:44,200 --> 02:29:47,866
aclu of minnesota. As we deploy

4421
02:29:46,133 --> 02:29:49,566
this new program, we heard

4422
02:29:47,966 --> 02:29:52,066
concerns from the community and

4423
02:29:49,666 --> 02:29:53,700
groups like the aclu about

4424
02:29:52,166 --> 02:29:55,366
balancing public safety and

4425
02:29:53,800 --> 02:29:58,433
protecting people's privacy.

4426
02:29:55,466 --> 02:30:03,266
that is a really important

4427
02:29:58,533 --> 02:30:04,066
balance. The sergeant mentioned

4428
02:30:03,366 --> 02:30:05,133
some of this earlier and later

4429
02:30:04,166 --> 02:30:06,500
we will get back to council

4430
02:30:05,233 --> 02:30:07,733
member chavez's questions, which

4431
02:30:06,600 --> 02:30:09,733
really reflect some of the

4432
02:30:07,833 --> 02:30:12,833
things we heard in the public

4433
02:30:09,833 --> 02:30:14,166
comment period. I think that is

4434
02:30:12,933 --> 02:30:15,933
important. I want people to

4435
02:30:14,266 --> 02:30:18,100
understand that this pilot

4436
02:30:16,033 --> 02:30:20,166
proposal exceeds all thresholds

4437
02:30:18,200 --> 02:30:23,400
and recommendations from the

4438
02:30:20,266 --> 02:30:26,500
aclu. We are already beyond

4439
02:30:23,500 --> 02:30:27,700
their standards. Mpd has offered

4440
02:30:26,600 --> 02:30:29,266
clarity about their use of

4441
02:30:27,800 --> 02:30:30,833
drones and I will share some of

4442
02:30:29,366 --> 02:30:32,766
the specific clarifications for

4443
02:30:30,933 --> 02:30:36,133
the public. Drones will be used

4444
02:30:32,866 --> 02:30:37,533
to respond to priority 0 and 1

4445
02:30:36,233 --> 02:30:39,566
calls, such as a person with a

4446
02:30:37,633 --> 02:30:41,133
weapon, an accident, an auto

4447
02:30:39,666 --> 02:30:43,666
theft, or shots fired. During

4448
02:30:41,233 --> 02:30:48,366
the pilot, a physical squad will

4449
02:30:43,766 --> 02:30:51,200
still be sent out, will still be

4450
02:30:48,466 --> 02:30:52,233
sent out. Drones will not be

4451
02:30:51,300 --> 02:30:53,600
utilized for every 9-1-1 call

4452
02:30:52,333 --> 02:30:56,100
and will only be authorized if

4453
02:30:53,683 --> 02:30:58,833
there are circumstances that

4454
02:30:56,200 --> 02:31:01,300
authorize their use under state

4455
02:30:58,933 --> 02:31:02,833
law. The federal aviation

4456
02:31:01,400 --> 02:31:04,866
administration, the faa and

4457
02:31:02,933 --> 02:31:07,233
state law do not allow drones to

4458
02:31:04,966 --> 02:31:09,466
be used for routine patrols or

4459
02:31:07,333 --> 02:31:11,266
surveillance, to have facial

4460
02:31:09,566 --> 02:31:13,666
recognition capabilities, or to

4461
02:31:11,633 --> 02:31:18,800
be equip with weapons. State

4462
02:31:13,766 --> 02:31:19,900
statute mandates that footage

4463
02:31:18,900 --> 02:31:20,900
without evidentiary value be

4464
02:31:20,000 --> 02:31:24,233
deleted within 7 days and

4465
02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:25,966
different from our body camera

4466
02:31:24,333 --> 02:31:33,400
footage, drone footage is

4467
02:31:26,066 --> 02:31:35,333
private, nodata. Just like vide

4468
02:31:33,500 --> 02:31:37,400
evidence, whether that is

4469
02:31:35,433 --> 02:31:38,600
submitted by neighbors or

4470
02:31:37,500 --> 02:31:40,633
captured on a security camera,

4471
02:31:38,700 --> 02:31:42,933
all data is stored in a way that

4472
02:31:40,733 --> 02:31:46,100
is only accessible to mpd. What

4473
02:31:43,033 --> 02:31:47,766
is before us today is a free

4474
02:31:46,200 --> 02:31:49,666
pilot program. This is an

4475
02:31:47,866 --> 02:31:51,866
opportunity for minneapolis to

4476
02:31:49,766 --> 02:31:52,933
trial this kind of technology,

4477
02:31:51,966 --> 02:31:56,100
technology that is currently

4478
02:31:53,033 --> 02:31:57,566
used in st. Paul, minnetonka,

4479
02:31:56,200 --> 02:31:59,000
rochester, duluth, and brooklyn

4480
02:31:57,666 --> 02:32:01,200
park to determine if it works

4481
02:31:59,100 --> 02:32:02,700
for us. The goals of this pilot

4482
02:32:01,300 --> 02:32:05,000
are to reduce our response

4483
02:32:02,800 --> 02:32:08,066
times, clear low level 9-1-1

4484
02:32:05,100 --> 02:32:09,866
calls without officers being

4485
02:32:08,166 --> 02:32:12,133
dispatched, increase safety,

4486
02:32:09,966 --> 02:32:13,566
safety of the community, safety

4487
02:32:12,233 --> 02:32:15,400
of our officers. We will be

4488
02:32:13,666 --> 02:32:16,466
tracking and measuring those

4489
02:32:15,500 --> 02:32:18,366
outcomes, specific to our city.

4490
02:32:16,566 --> 02:32:20,500
let's see what those outcomes

4491
02:32:18,450 --> 02:32:22,966
are. We all agree that drones

4492
02:32:20,600 --> 02:32:24,866
are not a substitute for

4493
02:32:23,066 --> 02:32:25,966
uniformed personnel but this

4494
02:32:24,966 --> 02:32:28,433
pilot provides critical support

4495
02:32:26,066 --> 02:32:30,733
to a severely understaffed

4496
02:32:28,533 --> 02:32:33,233
department and not only that,

4497
02:32:30,833 --> 02:32:34,466
community sees some great

4498
02:32:33,333 --> 02:32:36,200
improvement in response that was

4499
02:32:34,566 --> 02:32:37,133
previously impossible. I have

4500
02:32:36,300 --> 02:32:39,833
seen demos with these drones

4501
02:32:37,233 --> 02:32:41,433
that do things like bring narcan

4502
02:32:39,933 --> 02:32:44,100
directly to someone in need to

4503
02:32:41,533 --> 02:32:45,966
be used by a community member.

4504
02:32:44,200 --> 02:32:49,900
this can save lives. I have seen

4505
02:32:46,066 --> 02:32:51,766
demos where a drone drop a

4506
02:32:50,000 --> 02:32:53,133
flotation device with someone

4507
02:32:51,866 --> 02:32:55,133
struggling in the water with

4508
02:32:53,233 --> 02:32:55,866
amazing speed and accuracy. I

4509
02:32:55,233 --> 02:32:59,166
want that. Do you know how long

4510
02:32:56,333 --> 02:33:06,800
it takes a fire rescue boat to

4511
02:32:59,266 --> 02:33:07,600
get in the water in lake

4512
02:33:06,900 --> 02:33:08,200
harriet

4513
02:33:07,700 --> 02:33:09,566
harriet? Agonizingly long,

4514
02:33:08,300 --> 02:33:11,533
dangerously long. It's important

4515
02:33:09,666 --> 02:33:13,400
to me and I think it's important

4516
02:33:11,633 --> 02:33:16,333
to every single one of us

4517
02:33:13,500 --> 02:33:18,500
sitting up here, public safety

4518
02:33:16,433 --> 02:33:20,100
broadly defined. Our residents

4519
02:33:18,600 --> 02:33:21,966
deserve police response that is

4520
02:33:20,200 --> 02:33:23,466
as safe and as efficient as

4521
02:33:22,066 --> 02:33:25,800
possible. If technology can

4522
02:33:23,566 --> 02:33:26,500
clear certain calls and provide

4523
02:33:25,900 --> 02:33:29,433
better information before

4524
02:33:26,600 --> 02:33:30,833
officers arrive, it frees up

4525
02:33:29,533 --> 02:33:33,900
officers to respond to other

4526
02:33:30,933 --> 02:33:36,000
calls and service the community

4527
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:37,233
better. Our first responders

4528
02:33:36,100 --> 02:33:39,266
deserve to know if they are

4529
02:33:37,333 --> 02:33:41,300
truly needed. Drones could help

4530
02:33:39,400 --> 02:33:43,233
us avoid situations where

4531
02:33:41,400 --> 02:33:45,966
personnel arrive and ultimately

4532
02:33:43,333 --> 02:33:46,933
no one is there. We heard you

4533
02:33:46,066 --> 02:33:52,400
deputy chief campbell in your

4534
02:33:47,033 --> 02:33:53,700
presentation that there were

4535
02:33:52,500 --> 02:33:58,333
33.5 thousand priority 0 and 1

4536
02:33:53,800 --> 02:34:01,000
calls in the fourth precinct

4537
02:33:58,433 --> 02:34:02,100
alone in 2025. Drones could

4538
02:34:01,100 --> 02:34:04,500
respond to 5,000 of them in

4539
02:34:02,200 --> 02:34:07,200
under 2 minutes. That is

4540
02:34:04,600 --> 02:34:09,500
significant. We know 5 other

4541
02:34:07,300 --> 02:34:11,200
cities in this state utilize

4542
02:34:09,600 --> 02:34:14,066
drones and they are making their

4543
02:34:11,300 --> 02:34:15,666
communities safer. We have

4544
02:34:14,166 --> 02:34:17,766
guardrails around this pilot

4545
02:34:15,766 --> 02:34:19,900
program and they meet and exceed

4546
02:34:17,866 --> 02:34:21,266
the standards set out by the

4547
02:34:20,000 --> 02:34:23,166
aclu. I will be voting in

4548
02:34:21,366 --> 02:34:25,533
support of this pilot and I am

4549
02:34:23,266 --> 02:34:29,633
really eager to see how it helps

4550
02:34:26,133 --> 02:34:31,266
us to reduce response time and

4551
02:34:29,733 --> 02:34:32,566
protect safety overall. I'm

4552
02:34:31,366 --> 02:34:34,866
grateful for the work you have

4553
02:34:32,666 --> 02:34:35,833
done to establish these

4554
02:34:34,966 --> 02:34:38,066
guardrails and bring this kind

4555
02:34:36,500 --> 02:34:39,300
of technology to our department.

4556
02:34:38,166 --> 02:34:40,033
thank you.

4557
02:34:39,533 --> 02:34:45,700
» Council member chowdhury.

4558
02:34:41,733 --> 02:34:54,866
» Thank you, president payne. I

4559
02:34:45,800 --> 02:34:57,800
just have a couple of questions

4560
02:34:55,633 --> 02:35:01,366
on this. The first question I

4561
02:34:57,900 --> 02:35:04,100
have, how will the drones

4562
02:35:01,466 --> 02:35:09,133
themselves be controlled? Is it

4563
02:35:04,200 --> 02:35:12,200
controlled by human beings? Just

4564
02:35:09,433 --> 02:35:12,366
go through the logisticses for

4565
02:35:12,300 --> 02:35:13,833
me.

4566
02:35:12,833 --> 02:35:15,100
» Council member payne and

4567
02:35:13,933 --> 02:35:15,733
council member chowdhury,

4568
02:35:15,200 --> 02:35:18,166
operationally, the drones will

4569
02:35:16,066 --> 02:35:19,866
be remotely flown from someone

4570
02:35:18,266 --> 02:35:25,366
from dispatch. The drones will

4571
02:35:21,833 --> 02:35:31,200
be operated. By someone, like an

4572
02:35:25,466 --> 02:35:32,733
actual officer from dispatch. So

4573
02:35:31,300 --> 02:35:34,333
dispatch would get a call, we

4574
02:35:32,833 --> 02:35:36,800
see it on their screen, and then

4575
02:35:34,433 --> 02:35:38,266
they will assign it to the drone

4576
02:35:36,900 --> 02:35:40,033
pilot. The drone pilot would

4577
02:35:38,366 --> 02:35:42,600
respond to that location. While

4578
02:35:40,166 --> 02:35:46,333
in route, again, the camera

4579
02:35:42,700 --> 02:35:47,500
would be set at the horizon at

4580
02:35:46,433 --> 02:35:48,633
180 degrees. Once it gets to the

4581
02:35:47,600 --> 02:35:50,400
scene, it will pan to the

4582
02:35:48,733 --> 02:35:53,133
location and do an assessment of

4583
02:35:50,500 --> 02:35:54,400
the area. That formation is then

4584
02:35:53,233 --> 02:35:56,100
relayed to dispatch and officers

4585
02:35:54,500 --> 02:35:57,466
on the ground and from there, we

4586
02:35:56,200 --> 02:35:59,200
can taylor a response, according

4587
02:35:57,600 --> 02:36:02,500
to what we've seen.

4588
02:35:59,466 --> 02:36:03,933
» Got it. So it will be

4589
02:36:02,600 --> 02:36:06,000
officers controlling the drone.

4590
02:36:04,033 --> 02:36:08,833
» That is correct.

4591
02:36:06,100 --> 02:36:10,233
» And then you had said

4592
02:36:08,933 --> 02:36:11,633
previously that these drones

4593
02:36:10,333 --> 02:36:14,933
would not be identifiable to

4594
02:36:11,733 --> 02:36:19,333
other drones, is that correct?

4595
02:36:15,366 --> 02:36:20,033
» So, council member payne and

4596
02:36:19,433 --> 02:36:21,500
council member chowdhury, our

4597
02:36:20,133 --> 02:36:23,533
drones can see other drones that

4598
02:36:21,600 --> 02:36:24,633
are broadcasting what is called

4599
02:36:23,633 --> 02:36:27,233
rem

4600
02:36:24,733 --> 02:36:28,866
remote id. If you think about

4601
02:36:27,333 --> 02:36:33,700
it, it's a beacon. Our drones

4602
02:36:28,966 --> 02:36:35,833
can see them, however that is

4603
02:36:33,800 --> 02:36:36,633
not the case for all

4604
02:36:35,933 --> 02:36:38,966
recreational drones out there.

4605
02:36:36,733 --> 02:36:43,166
can our drones see other drones?

4606
02:36:39,066 --> 02:36:44,333
that question is yes and no,

4607
02:36:43,266 --> 02:36:44,566
depending on the types of

4608
02:36:44,433 --> 02:36:46,700
drones.

4609
02:36:44,766 --> 02:36:47,933
» Thank you for that response.

4610
02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:50,933
let me clarify wha my question

4611
02:36:48,033 --> 02:36:52,666
is. Will the public be able to

4612
02:36:51,033 --> 02:36:54,700
discern between what drones are

4613
02:36:52,766 --> 02:36:56,800
used by mpd compared to other

4614
02:36:54,800 --> 02:36:58,400
drones by other law enforcement

4615
02:36:56,900 --> 02:37:00,466
agencies or recreational drones?

4616
02:36:58,533 --> 02:37:01,266
» So, council member payne and

4617
02:37:00,566 --> 02:37:02,700
council member chowdhury, our

4618
02:37:01,366 --> 02:37:06,533
drones will be marked with blue

4619
02:37:02,800 --> 02:37:07,700
and red markings, so that is one

4620
02:37:06,633 --> 02:37:08,766
identifier. So if community

4621
02:37:07,800 --> 02:37:10,300
members are looking up at the

4622
02:37:08,866 --> 02:37:12,266
sky and they see a drone, they

4623
02:37:10,400 --> 02:37:14,600
will be marked with mpd markings

4624
02:37:12,366 --> 02:37:15,500
and they will have red and blue

4625
02:37:14,700 --> 02:37:19,666
lights to indicate they are

4626
02:37:15,600 --> 02:37:20,433
police drones. A normal

4627
02:37:19,766 --> 02:37:22,166
recreational drone will not have

4628
02:37:20,533 --> 02:37:23,933
the red and blue lights.

4629
02:37:22,266 --> 02:37:26,133
normally they're red and green.

4630
02:37:24,033 --> 02:37:27,800
» Will they be discerned from

4631
02:37:26,233 --> 02:37:29,500
other law enforcement drones or

4632
02:37:27,900 --> 02:37:32,533
other drones used by skydio,

4633
02:37:29,600 --> 02:37:34,566
such as the ones used by ice?

4634
02:37:32,633 --> 02:37:35,500
» So council member payne,

4635
02:37:34,666 --> 02:37:37,133
council member chowdhury, a

4636
02:37:35,600 --> 02:37:39,200
normal person won't be able to

4637
02:37:37,233 --> 02:37:41,566
differentiate between the two

4638
02:37:39,300 --> 02:37:42,400
but again, they won't be able to

4639
02:37:41,666 --> 02:37:44,433
differentiate between what we

4640
02:37:42,500 --> 02:37:46,566
had with the 4th of july. I

4641
02:37:44,533 --> 02:37:48,666
worked that day. There were

4642
02:37:46,650 --> 02:37:50,100
maybe -- we saw 15 to 20 drones

4643
02:37:48,766 --> 02:37:51,433
and we were able to identify if

4644
02:37:50,200 --> 02:37:53,900
they were pice drones or if

4645
02:37:51,533 --> 02:37:56,133
they were recreational users. So

4646
02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:58,233
for now, there is no standard

4647
02:37:56,233 --> 02:37:59,633
that holds citizens to that

4648
02:37:58,333 --> 02:38:01,566
standard of identifying and

4649
02:37:59,733 --> 02:38:04,866
marking their own drones. So for

4650
02:38:01,650 --> 02:38:09,533
now, we just have to essentially

4651
02:38:04,966 --> 02:38:11,933
identify police drones as our

4652
02:38:09,633 --> 02:38:12,166
markings or lights with our

4653
02:38:12,033 --> 02:38:15,666
drones.

4654
02:38:12,266 --> 02:38:16,666
» If I may speak too, for our

4655
02:38:15,766 --> 02:38:19,333
identification purpose for our

4656
02:38:16,766 --> 02:38:20,866
drones, it goes back to that

4657
02:38:19,433 --> 02:38:23,533
public-facing dashboard. So if

4658
02:38:20,966 --> 02:38:25,266
someone does see a drone flying

4659
02:38:23,633 --> 02:38:28,366
and they want -- they think it's

4660
02:38:25,366 --> 02:38:28,933
an mpd drone, they have the able

4661
02:38:28,466 --> 02:38:30,533
to go on the public-facing

4662
02:38:29,033 --> 02:38:31,800
dashboard, which is on the

4663
02:38:30,633 --> 02:38:35,100
city's website. Within 24 hours,

4664
02:38:31,900 --> 02:38:36,566
they can see that is an mpd

4665
02:38:35,200 --> 02:38:41,900
drone and wre it was flown

4666
02:38:36,666 --> 02:38:42,133
from and to, and for what

4667
02:38:42,000 --> 02:38:43,933
reason.

4668
02:38:42,233 --> 02:38:46,666
» Okay, I feel like there is a

4669
02:38:44,033 --> 02:38:47,500
lot of issues with being able to

4670
02:38:46,766 --> 02:38:48,566
discern between other law

4671
02:38:47,600 --> 02:38:51,466
enforcemt drones and I think

4672
02:38:48,766 --> 02:38:54,400
it puts a lotf onus on every

4673
02:38:51,566 --> 02:38:56,533
day people to do that due

4674
02:38:54,500 --> 02:38:59,766
diligence. That is just a quick

4675
02:38:56,633 --> 02:39:01,433
comment that I will make. The

4676
02:38:59,866 --> 02:39:02,300
other thing is since mpd

4677
02:39:01,533 --> 02:39:04,233
officers will be flying this

4678
02:39:02,400 --> 02:39:06,600
drone and let's say they go

4679
02:39:04,333 --> 02:39:11,000
outside of the scope of what is

4680
02:39:06,700 --> 02:39:12,833
occurring here and do, let's say

4681
02:39:11,100 --> 02:39:14,133
one of the worst-case scenarios

4682
02:39:12,933 --> 02:39:17,266
is someone is followed and

4683
02:39:14,233 --> 02:39:18,833
profiled by a drone. What is the

4684
02:39:17,366 --> 02:39:21,800
recourse for complaints from

4685
02:39:18,933 --> 02:39:24,366
citizens and other officers.

4686
02:39:22,166 --> 02:39:25,000
» So council member payne and

4687
02:39:24,466 --> 02:39:26,866
council member chowdhury, we

4688
02:39:25,100 --> 02:39:31,366
already have policies in place

4689
02:39:26,966 --> 02:39:33,100
that dictate what happens if we

4690
02:39:31,466 --> 02:39:36,233
improperly use this technology.

4691
02:39:33,200 --> 02:39:38,666
so, going off of that, we would

4692
02:39:36,333 --> 02:39:40,300
just follow our own sops, our

4693
02:39:38,766 --> 02:39:40,933
policies and procedures, as well

4694
02:39:40,400 --> 02:39:44,133
as state law.

4695
02:39:41,033 --> 02:39:46,600
» So it would likely go through

4696
02:39:44,233 --> 02:39:47,966
either the opcr or internal

4697
02:39:46,700 --> 02:39:49,933
investigations if a complaint is

4698
02:39:48,066 --> 02:39:50,733
filed about misuse of drones by

4699
02:39:50,033 --> 02:39:51,333
officers, correct?

4700
02:39:50,833 --> 02:39:52,733
» Correct.

4701
02:39:51,433 --> 02:39:54,666
» Okay, thank you. Those are

4702
02:39:52,833 --> 02:39:56,533
all my questions for you. I will

4703
02:39:54,766 --> 02:39:59,133
make a couple of comments with

4704
02:39:56,633 --> 02:40:01,533
the minute and0 seconds I

4705
02:39:59,233 --> 02:40:03,366
have. Based off of that

4706
02:40:01,633 --> 02:40:05,400
information, I have aot of

4707
02:40:03,466 --> 02:40:07,166
concerns in our ability to have

4708
02:40:05,500 --> 02:40:10,333
accountability over these

4709
02:40:07,266 --> 02:40:11,666
drones, especially since

4710
02:40:10,433 --> 02:40:13,066
complaints will be made through

4711
02:40:11,766 --> 02:40:15,433
internal investigations and we

4712
02:40:13,166 --> 02:40:18,933
gotten a report in our committee

4713
02:40:15,533 --> 02:40:19,966
of the whole from the

4714
02:40:19,033 --> 02:40:22,000
independent monitor that the lis

4715
02:40:20,100 --> 02:40:24,866
or cal backlog for internal

4716
02:40:22,100 --> 02:40:25,600
affairs remains. We're not

4717
02:40:24,966 --> 02:40:28,300
investigating theomplaints at

4718
02:40:25,700 --> 02:40:29,966
the rate we need to satisfy the

4719
02:40:28,400 --> 02:40:31,733
goals of the settlement

4720
02:40:30,066 --> 02:40:32,966
agreement. I have no reason to

4721
02:40:31,833 --> 02:40:34,200
believe we will have a higher

4722
02:40:33,066 --> 02:40:35,533
level of accountability on this

4723
02:40:34,300 --> 02:40:37,066
matter or the level of

4724
02:40:35,633 --> 02:40:40,266
accountability that is necessary

4725
02:40:37,150 --> 02:40:42,266
and that is deeply troubling to

4726
02:40:40,366 --> 02:40:44,133
me because you can say that it's

4727
02:40:42,366 --> 02:40:47,833
going to follow the scope of

4728
02:40:44,233 --> 02:40:51,600
what's going on, but if it veers

4729
02:40:47,933 --> 02:40:53,250
out of it, the recourse is slow,

4730
02:40:51,700 --> 02:40:56,233
limited, and documented to be

4731
02:40:53,366 --> 02:40:58,566
off track byyears. The other

4732
02:40:56,333 --> 02:41:01,533
thing that I will just share,

4733
02:40:58,666 --> 02:41:03,033
during the ice occupation, to my

4734
02:41:01,633 --> 02:41:06,166
office, we have 40 documented

4735
02:41:03,133 --> 02:41:07,633
instances of drones flying all

4736
02:41:06,266 --> 02:41:11,100
throughout the neighborhoods

4737
02:41:07,733 --> 02:41:12,400
that residents were not able to

4738
02:41:11,200 --> 02:41:14,966
identify, even in conversations

4739
02:41:12,500 --> 02:41:16,133
with the faa, the mpd and

4740
02:41:15,066 --> 02:41:18,866
hennepin county, no one was able

4741
02:41:16,333 --> 02:41:20,333
to identify them. My

4742
02:41:18,966 --> 02:41:22,233
constituents are traumatized by

4743
02:41:20,433 --> 02:41:23,833
drones flying over their

4744
02:41:22,333 --> 02:41:26,066
households. They do not like

4745
02:41:23,933 --> 02:41:28,000
them. They feel surveilled. They

4746
02:41:26,166 --> 02:41:31,366
have been follod by drones.

4747
02:41:28,100 --> 02:41:32,833
they have had drones show u by

4748
02:41:31,466 --> 02:41:38,166
their windows as late as

4749
02:41:32,933 --> 02:41:39,366
5:00 a.m., and that's to speak

4750
02:41:38,266 --> 02:41:41,000
somethingn that my

4751
02:41:39,466 --> 02:41:44,033
constituents say is traumatic

4752
02:41:41,100 --> 02:41:45,633
for them to experience. We were

4753
02:41:44,133 --> 02:41:47,900
still unable to get any

4754
02:41:45,733 --> 02:41:48,133
responses on who operated the

4755
02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:51,166
drones.

4756
02:41:48,233 --> 02:41:51,566
» You're at time. Council

4757
02:41:51,266 --> 02:41:52,866
member rainville.

4758
02:41:51,666 --> 02:41:55,300
» Thank you. I a going to vote

4759
02:41:52,966 --> 02:41:57,433
yes on this just like I voted on

4760
02:41:55,400 --> 02:42:00,866
some other pilot projects we

4761
02:41:57,533 --> 02:42:02,200
did. We voted to start a pilot

4762
02:42:00,966 --> 02:42:04,133
understand how we canet a

4763
02:42:02,300 --> 02:42:06,433
handle on that. It's perfect for

4764
02:42:04,233 --> 02:42:08,833
our approach to non-armed public

4765
02:42:06,533 --> 02:42:11,833
safety. Also, a pilot project

4766
02:42:08,933 --> 02:42:13,833
for non-injury traffic

4767
02:42:11,933 --> 02:42:16,533
accidents. Another move towards

4768
02:42:13,933 --> 02:42:18,200
the goal of more and more

4769
02:42:16,633 --> 02:42:20,833
non-armed public safety working

4770
02:42:18,300 --> 02:42:23,933
for us. The success of the

4771
02:42:20,933 --> 02:42:25,533
v.c.r., that started out as a

4772
02:42:24,033 --> 02:42:26,666
pilot project. Toot vote for

4773
02:42:25,633 --> 02:42:28,866
this today would be a real loss

4774
02:42:26,766 --> 02:42:29,966
for our community, not just in

4775
02:42:28,966 --> 02:42:31,433
north minneapolis where we can

4776
02:42:30,066 --> 02:42:35,666
hope to start this, but for the

4777
02:42:31,533 --> 02:42:37,200
whole city of minneapolis. As I

4778
02:42:35,766 --> 02:42:40,066
contemated the information we

4779
02:42:37,300 --> 02:42:42,533
received after all these weeks,

4780
02:42:40,166 --> 02:42:45,933
the one thing that has come to

4781
02:42:43,366 --> 02:42:46,866
my mind time and time again, if

4782
02:42:46,033 --> 02:42:49,166
this drone project was in place

4783
02:42:46,966 --> 02:42:52,466
when we had the horrible

4784
02:42:49,266 --> 02:42:54,866
shooting in south minneapolis

4785
02:42:52,566 --> 02:42:56,100
where officer mitcher was

4786
02:42:54,966 --> 02:42:59,100
killed, there could have been a

4787
02:42:56,200 --> 02:42:59,866
drone to advise him of the

4788
02:42:59,200 --> 02:43:01,400
danger. The person he went to

4789
02:42:59,966 --> 02:43:03,016
help killed him. A drone would

4790
02:43:01,500 --> 02:43:04,833
have prevented that. I hope that

4791
02:43:03,366 --> 02:43:06,700
my colleagues see that we need

4792
02:43:05,016 --> 02:43:11,900
to gather this data and I look

4793
02:43:06,800 --> 02:43:13,733
forward to making law based on

4794
02:43:12,000 --> 02:43:14,300
fact, not fear.

4795
02:43:13,833 --> 02:43:17,066
» Council member shaffer.

4796
02:43:14,400 --> 02:43:20,833
» Yeah, can you just clarify

4797
02:43:17,166 --> 02:43:24,866
that the rhythm of the drone

4798
02:43:20,933 --> 02:43:27,233
use. Are they going to be

4799
02:43:24,966 --> 02:43:28,833
restricted to ward 4 or are they

4800
02:43:27,333 --> 02:43:30,866
going to be pilot in other

4801
02:43:28,933 --> 02:43:32,866
wards? I know there is a lot of

4802
02:43:30,950 --> 02:43:34,800
concern about other areas of the

4803
02:43:32,966 --> 02:43:37,333
city. Can you speak and I may

4804
02:43:34,900 --> 02:43:40,633
have missed that and reitete

4805
02:43:37,433 --> 02:43:46,466
that for me.

4806
02:43:40,733 --> 02:43:47,966
» So paycouncil member payne a

4807
02:43:46,566 --> 02:43:49,900
council member shaffer, it

4808
02:43:48,066 --> 02:43:51,733
contains two drones, and will

4809
02:43:50,000 --> 02:43:53,633
only operate within ward 4.

4810
02:43:51,866 --> 02:43:55,033
» Great, I really appreciate

4811
02:43:53,733 --> 02:43:57,466
that the ward 4 council member

4812
02:43:55,133 --> 02:43:58,633
for this area has taken the

4813
02:43:57,566 --> 02:43:59,966
responsibility and leadership to

4814
02:43:58,733 --> 02:44:01,400
step up and say this is

4815
02:44:00,066 --> 02:44:02,633
something that my community

4816
02:44:01,500 --> 02:44:03,533
wants. This is something I am

4817
02:44:02,733 --> 02:44:04,833
familiar with and I'm

4818
02:44:03,633 --> 02:44:08,833
comfortable with. I have done a

4819
02:44:04,933 --> 02:44:12,000
lot of research on it for 22.5

4820
02:44:08,933 --> 02:44:13,533
years. I think we should respond

4821
02:44:12,100 --> 02:44:14,633
and acknowledge the privacy of

4822
02:44:13,633 --> 02:44:16,433
her leadership in this test. She

4823
02:44:14,766 --> 02:44:17,433
is for it, just like we're

4824
02:44:16,533 --> 02:44:19,250
supporting council member warren

4825
02:44:17,533 --> 02:44:22,766
in heritage park, I think we owe

4826
02:44:19,366 --> 02:44:24,900
it to our colleagues for her

4827
02:44:22,866 --> 02:44:26,500
work to allow this to move

4828
02:44:25,000 --> 02:44:27,533
forward and see how her

4829
02:44:26,600 --> 02:44:33,366
residents respond to this and

4830
02:44:27,633 --> 02:44:35,100
look at the data that comes

4831
02:44:33,466 --> 02:44:37,266
back. I understand the fear and

4832
02:44:35,200 --> 02:44:38,900
the moral arguments around

4833
02:44:37,366 --> 02:44:41,400
surveillance and where it was

4834
02:44:39,000 --> 02:44:44,533
use in various conflicts and

4835
02:44:41,500 --> 02:44:47,133
federal contracts. I get it.

4836
02:44:44,633 --> 02:44:50,400
there is a moral argument on the

4837
02:44:47,233 --> 02:44:51,800
other side just as strong or

4838
02:44:50,500 --> 02:44:54,900
stronger. We are municipal

4839
02:44:51,900 --> 02:44:56,233
leaders for the city of

4840
02:44:55,000 --> 02:44:59,433
minneapolis. We need to do what

4841
02:44:56,366 --> 02:45:02,466
is right for the citizens of our

4842
02:44:59,533 --> 02:45:04,800
city, right here. If it's proven

4843
02:45:02,566 --> 02:45:06,633
that it can save lives and other

4844
02:45:04,900 --> 02:45:08,733
jurisdictions that we are

4845
02:45:06,733 --> 02:45:10,400
friendly with, duluth, et

4846
02:45:08,833 --> 02:45:11,400
cetera, then I think we deserve

4847
02:45:10,566 --> 02:45:13,533
it to council member vetaw to

4848
02:45:11,500 --> 02:45:19,133
support her in this trial and

4849
02:45:13,633 --> 02:45:22,566
get the data. I believe the

4850
02:45:19,233 --> 02:45:23,466
moral argument to use drones to

4851
02:45:22,666 --> 02:45:24,866
help save lost children and

4852
02:45:23,566 --> 02:45:27,766
adults, drones that could be

4853
02:45:24,966 --> 02:45:29,233
used as a force multiplier for

4854
02:45:27,866 --> 02:45:30,700
mpd when we're short officers,

4855
02:45:29,333 --> 02:45:33,233
doing more with less, drones

4856
02:45:30,800 --> 02:45:34,666
that can be used as first

4857
02:45:33,333 --> 02:45:35,833
responders in unusual situations

4858
02:45:34,766 --> 02:45:39,166
that take time as we mentioned

4859
02:45:35,933 --> 02:45:40,866
with the water rescues, and

4860
02:45:39,266 --> 02:45:43,300
takes an element of danger away

4861
02:45:40,966 --> 02:45:44,900
from those who are first on

4862
02:45:43,400 --> 02:45:47,266
scene. That is a moral argument

4863
02:45:44,983 --> 02:45:48,766
I will stand behind for the

4864
02:45:47,366 --> 02:45:51,200
citizens of minneapolis. I am

4865
02:45:48,866 --> 02:45:55,833
the mother of a first responder,

4866
02:45:51,300 --> 02:45:56,133
I will be supporting this drone

4867
02:45:55,933 --> 02:45:56,966
pilot.

4868
02:45:56,533 --> 02:46:00,866
» Vice president osman.

4869
02:45:58,300 --> 02:46:06,300
» Thank you so much. I listened

4870
02:46:00,966 --> 02:46:11,666
to the meeting a couple weeks

4871
02:46:06,400 --> 02:46:14,000
ago about this drone pilot

4872
02:46:11,766 --> 02:46:20,433
program. As you can see, my name

4873
02:46:14,333 --> 02:46:21,966
is on the co-author. I made the

4874
02:46:20,533 --> 02:46:23,766
commitment to support it because

4875
02:46:22,066 --> 02:46:25,400
I thought this was something

4876
02:46:23,866 --> 02:46:26,966
that could be helpful. I did

4877
02:46:25,500 --> 02:46:29,633
change my mind. I will tell you

4878
02:46:27,066 --> 02:46:32,233
why I changed my mind. Number

4879
02:46:29,733 --> 02:46:36,066
one, I strongly support the

4880
02:46:32,333 --> 02:46:43,066
public safety. This is the best

4881
02:46:36,166 --> 02:46:45,866
tool they have to protect our

4882
02:46:43,166 --> 02:46:47,300
community. This is why I cannot

4883
02:46:45,966 --> 02:46:50,200
support this skydio pilot

4884
02:46:47,400 --> 02:46:51,600
because it must include trust,

4885
02:46:50,300 --> 02:46:54,933
ethics, and accountability.

4886
02:46:51,700 --> 02:47:00,700
those are my core beliefs. We

4887
02:46:55,033 --> 02:47:03,066
are human beings with ethics. I

4888
02:47:00,800 --> 02:47:04,633
talked to the assistant chief,

4889
02:47:03,166 --> 02:47:06,366
our police leadership, and I

4890
02:47:04,733 --> 02:47:08,133
expressed to them I do support

4891
02:47:06,466 --> 02:47:09,666
police having a tool that can

4892
02:47:08,233 --> 02:47:13,833
help our residents when there

4893
02:47:09,750 --> 02:47:15,433
are calls. They already have bo

4894
02:47:13,933 --> 02:47:17,666
cameras on the buildings. Now

4895
02:47:15,533 --> 02:47:19,166
this is just another camera in

4896
02:47:17,766 --> 02:47:21,633
the sky. I don't have an issue

4897
02:47:19,266 --> 02:47:24,833
with that, right? If we have a

4898
02:47:21,733 --> 02:47:26,333
policy around it and a strong

4899
02:47:24,933 --> 02:47:33,533
leadership that can protect

4900
02:47:26,433 --> 02:47:34,900
those concerns and rights, but

4901
02:47:33,633 --> 02:47:36,850
skydio supplies drones to the

4902
02:47:35,000 --> 02:47:38,116
military, who committed a

4903
02:47:36,950 --> 02:47:40,216
genocide against palestinian

4904
02:47:38,216 --> 02:47:45,050
people and children. That is not

4905
02:47:40,516 --> 02:47:50,316
my opinion, that is u.n. Human

4906
02:47:45,150 --> 02:47:52,816
rights office. Look it up. They

4907
02:47:50,416 --> 02:47:54,316
also work with ice department,

4908
02:47:52,916 --> 02:47:57,450
homeland security on immigration

4909
02:47:54,416 --> 02:47:59,650
enforcement surveillance. Nobody

4910
02:47:57,550 --> 02:48:01,083
knows more than immigrant

4911
02:47:59,750 --> 02:48:02,116
communities, city of

4912
02:48:01,183 --> 02:48:09,683
minneapolis, what has taken

4913
02:48:02,216 --> 02:48:11,816
place in our cities. Bringing

4914
02:48:09,783 --> 02:48:13,416
offenders that ties to

4915
02:48:11,916 --> 02:48:14,783
militarized operations into our

4916
02:48:13,516 --> 02:48:16,550
city underlines the trust that

4917
02:48:15,050 --> 02:48:18,983
we are trying to rebuild with

4918
02:48:16,650 --> 02:48:23,416
the city, especially in major

4919
02:48:19,083 --> 02:48:24,983
black neighborhoods, black

4920
02:48:23,516 --> 02:48:28,050
immigrants, muslim immigrants. I

4921
02:48:25,450 --> 02:48:30,183
do not trust the skydio. And I

4922
02:48:28,150 --> 02:48:34,483
will not allow for them to

4923
02:48:30,283 --> 02:48:36,283
arrive here in our city. I

4924
02:48:34,583 --> 02:48:40,550
support exploring technology

4925
02:48:36,383 --> 02:48:42,750
that can help, including drones,

4926
02:48:40,650 --> 02:48:44,416
in our first response, but only

4927
02:48:42,850 --> 02:48:46,916
with a vendor that has no

4928
02:48:44,516 --> 02:48:49,650
contract with militaries that

4929
02:48:47,016 --> 02:48:51,550
are killing other people. It

4930
02:48:49,750 --> 02:48:58,083
might be far away, but it is

4931
02:48:51,650 --> 02:48:59,416
seen on your phones and we have

4932
02:48:58,183 --> 02:49:05,483
experienced last winter what ice

4933
02:48:59,516 --> 02:49:06,416
did to our community. Those

4934
02:49:05,583 --> 02:49:08,816
drones were hovering on top of

4935
02:49:06,516 --> 02:49:15,483
you when you were protesting and

4936
02:49:08,916 --> 02:49:17,750
exercising your rights. These

4937
02:49:15,583 --> 02:49:19,116
are the reasons why I am voting

4938
02:49:17,850 --> 02:49:22,650
against and it does not mean,

4939
02:49:19,216 --> 02:49:27,183
let me just say this, I am vo

4940
02:49:22,750 --> 02:49:29,150
voting because nobody support

4941
02:49:27,283 --> 02:49:30,783
it, public safety than me. Since

4942
02:49:29,250 --> 02:49:32,816
I came in 2020, public safety

4943
02:49:30,883 --> 02:49:34,683
had been in the conversation, I

4944
02:49:32,916 --> 02:49:42,450
have supported our police

4945
02:49:34,783 --> 02:49:43,916
officers, I have supported the

4946
02:49:42,550 --> 02:49:48,850
consent decree, all this change

4947
02:49:44,016 --> 02:49:50,450
we need to do. So this does not

4948
02:49:48,950 --> 02:49:53,283
mean we're against the police.

4949
02:49:50,550 --> 02:49:56,650
it does not mean we're against

4950
02:49:53,383 --> 02:49:57,650
public safety. Taking a stand

4951
02:49:56,750 --> 02:50:00,150
ethically and morally is the

4952
02:49:57,750 --> 02:50:01,616
right thing to do. I think,

4953
02:50:00,233 --> 02:50:04,316
focusing on the city of

4954
02:50:01,716 --> 02:50:07,583
minneapolis, what we have seen,

4955
02:50:04,416 --> 02:50:10,050
99% of the people that came here

4956
02:50:07,683 --> 02:50:17,616
are close to that, it's because

4957
02:50:10,150 --> 02:50:19,050
they care, right? We are

4958
02:50:17,716 --> 02:50:20,816
discussing their taxes, their

4959
02:50:19,150 --> 02:50:22,650
city, and we should consider

4960
02:50:20,916 --> 02:50:25,150
that. So the reason I'm voting

4961
02:50:22,750 --> 02:50:28,166
against it is because of the

4962
02:50:25,250 --> 02:50:31,050
skydio basically working with

4963
02:50:28,283 --> 02:50:35,616
ice that terrorized my community

4964
02:50:31,150 --> 02:50:37,216
and also working with a genocide

4965
02:50:35,716 --> 02:50:38,683
military government that

4966
02:50:37,316 --> 02:50:40,083
continues to kill innocent

4967
02:50:38,783 --> 02:50:44,116
children. That is not made up,

4968
02:50:40,183 --> 02:50:47,016
that is a fact. You can look it

4969
02:50:44,216 --> 02:50:47,316
up. Thank you, council

4970
02:50:47,116 --> 02:50:48,816
president.

4971
02:50:47,416 --> 02:50:51,583
» I wanted to note that we were

4972
02:50:48,916 --> 02:50:52,750
joined by mayor frey and I will

4973
02:50:51,683 --> 02:50:54,750
recognize him.

4974
02:50:52,850 --> 02:50:57,183
» Thank you for having me here

4975
02:50:54,850 --> 02:51:01,116
today. The ethical and moral

4976
02:50:57,283 --> 02:51:03,416
stance that I am taking in

4977
02:51:01,216 --> 02:51:05,783
support this pilot is on behalf

4978
02:51:03,516 --> 02:51:07,150
of our constituents that need

4979
02:51:05,883 --> 02:51:08,716
response from a police officer

4980
02:51:07,283 --> 02:51:12,816
or a safety system that allows

4981
02:51:08,850 --> 02:51:13,983
us to see what is going on in

4982
02:51:12,916 --> 02:51:17,650
real-time. This program, which

4983
02:51:15,183 --> 02:51:18,983
is modeled after dozens of other

4984
02:51:17,750 --> 02:51:20,683
programs in major cities

4985
02:51:19,083 --> 02:51:22,550
throughout the country and in

4986
02:51:20,783 --> 02:51:25,416
minnesota has shown to save

4987
02:51:22,650 --> 02:51:26,216
lives and reduce the numbers of

4988
02:51:25,516 --> 02:51:29,016
calls that our police officers

4989
02:51:26,316 --> 02:51:30,850
need to go to. They both reduce

4990
02:51:29,116 --> 02:51:31,783
the number of unnecessary

4991
02:51:30,950 --> 02:51:33,383
interactions between law

4992
02:51:31,883 --> 02:51:38,016
enforcement and residents and

4993
02:51:33,483 --> 02:51:39,283
also improve the response time

4994
02:51:38,116 --> 02:51:40,983
and the time that officers need

4995
02:51:39,550 --> 02:51:42,683
to spend on each individual

4996
02:51:41,083 --> 02:51:45,783
call. Let me explain what this

4997
02:51:42,783 --> 02:51:48,016
looks like practically. A call

4998
02:51:45,883 --> 02:51:49,783
comes in from a constituent

4999
02:51:48,116 --> 02:51:52,716
saying that there is an

5000
02:51:49,883 --> 02:51:56,383
individual on the corner with a

5001
02:51:52,816 --> 02:52:00,216
gun. We can send a drone out to

5002
02:51:56,483 --> 02:52:01,250
that location sometimes within

5003
02:52:00,316 --> 02:52:03,150
60 seconds and that drone,

5004
02:52:01,350 --> 02:52:04,350
through the camera footage, can

5005
02:52:03,250 --> 02:52:06,816
the our police officers that

5006
02:52:04,450 --> 02:52:11,583
it's not a gun at all, in fact

5007
02:52:06,916 --> 02:52:13,450
it's a cell phone. That footage

5008
02:52:11,683 --> 02:52:15,583
can alert the police officer

5009
02:52:13,550 --> 02:52:17,050
that they're not actually

5010
02:52:15,683 --> 02:52:18,550
walking into a very dangerous

5011
02:52:17,150 --> 02:52:21,183
where they may need to have

5012
02:52:18,650 --> 02:52:22,850
their hand on a gun. That

5013
02:52:21,283 --> 02:52:24,416
footage can let us know ahead of

5014
02:52:22,950 --> 02:52:27,950
time that in fact that police

5015
02:52:24,516 --> 02:52:29,483
officer is not needed at all and

5016
02:52:28,050 --> 02:52:31,316
they can instead tend to a far

5017
02:52:29,583 --> 02:52:33,816
more critical and dangerous

5018
02:52:31,416 --> 02:52:36,850
situation that is happening

5019
02:52:33,916 --> 02:52:39,783
perhaps in a neighborhood away.

5020
02:52:36,950 --> 02:52:45,150
this technology is not novel in

5021
02:52:39,883 --> 02:52:47,783
use by cities. It is presently

5022
02:52:45,250 --> 02:52:50,316
used in duluth, rochester,

5023
02:52:47,883 --> 02:52:52,083
brooklyn park, minnetonka, and

5024
02:52:50,416 --> 02:52:54,650
st. Paul. This technology is

5025
02:52:52,183 --> 02:52:56,950
being used by new york city,

5026
02:52:54,750 --> 02:52:58,350
philadelphia, atlanta, los

5027
02:52:57,050 --> 02:53:01,350
angeles, san francisco, chicago,

5028
02:52:58,450 --> 02:53:04,416
denver, and I could go on. This

5029
02:53:01,450 --> 02:53:07,616
technology is also in so many

5030
02:53:04,516 --> 02:53:11,616
respects a part of the future of

5031
02:53:07,716 --> 02:53:13,750
where law enforcement is going

5032
02:53:11,716 --> 02:53:15,950
because it allows us to get to a

5033
02:53:13,850 --> 02:53:17,983
location faster, helps somebody

5034
02:53:16,050 --> 02:53:20,850
sooner, and s, also save

5035
02:53:18,083 --> 02:53:22,683
lives, which becomes all the

5036
02:53:20,950 --> 02:53:24,483
more important when we're down

5037
02:53:22,783 --> 02:53:27,216
over 200 officers where we have

5038
02:53:24,583 --> 02:53:28,583
fewer officers per capita than

5039
02:53:27,316 --> 02:53:30,050
virtually any city in the whole

5040
02:53:28,683 --> 02:53:32,883
country and we need to be using

5041
02:53:30,150 --> 02:53:34,216
our time and our dollars as

5042
02:53:32,983 --> 02:53:36,216
efficiently as possible. So

5043
02:53:34,316 --> 02:53:38,216
council members on many

5044
02:53:36,316 --> 02:53:41,616
occasions have righteously asked

5045
02:53:38,316 --> 02:53:44,116
for grateater service, for quicr

5046
02:53:41,716 --> 02:53:46,950
response, for more attention to

5047
02:53:44,216 --> 02:53:50,216
victims and their needs. This

5048
02:53:47,050 --> 02:53:53,816
gives us the ability to do

5049
02:53:50,316 --> 02:53:54,916
exactly that. Council members, I

5050
02:53:53,916 --> 02:53:56,483
ask for your support on this

5051
02:53:55,016 --> 02:53:58,750
because I know that it will help

5052
02:53:56,583 --> 02:53:59,816
our residents. I ask for your

5053
02:53:58,850 --> 02:54:01,916
support on this because I know

5054
02:53:59,916 --> 02:54:04,816
that it will help you provide

5055
02:54:02,016 --> 02:54:06,750
the constituent service that you

5056
02:54:04,916 --> 02:54:09,450
demand of our administration.

5057
02:54:06,850 --> 02:54:11,516
this is not a small item. It is

5058
02:54:09,550 --> 02:54:17,683
in the sense that it's a free

5059
02:54:11,616 --> 02:54:19,416
pilot. It's a free pilot. It's

5060
02:54:17,783 --> 02:54:21,750
incredibly important in that it

5061
02:54:19,516 --> 02:54:26,783
gives us the testing ground for

5062
02:54:21,850 --> 02:54:28,850
free where yes, we can expand,

5063
02:54:26,883 --> 02:54:31,283
in full transparency, we want

5064
02:54:28,950 --> 02:54:32,050
to. Virtually every city in the

5065
02:54:31,383 --> 02:54:33,083
country is going to be

5066
02:54:32,150 --> 02:54:35,716
ultimately going in this

5067
02:54:33,183 --> 02:54:39,483
direction, I believe. I don't

5068
02:54:35,816 --> 02:54:42,983
think that minneapolis should

5069
02:54:39,583 --> 02:54:44,616
have our own residents as

5070
02:54:43,083 --> 02:54:51,750
collateral damage because of gee

5071
02:54:44,716 --> 02:54:53,483
pot -- geopolitics. We're not

5072
02:54:51,850 --> 02:54:53,750
sending --

5073
02:54:53,583 --> 02:54:54,883
[gavel].

5074
02:54:53,850 --> 02:55:00,316
» Please don't interrupt.

5075
02:54:57,283 --> 02:55:02,050
» Thank you, council president.

5076
02:55:00,416 --> 02:55:06,083
refusing this pilot, I don't

5077
02:55:02,150 --> 02:55:07,050
believe sends a message to

5078
02:55:06,183 --> 02:55:09,750
israel. It does make it more

5079
02:55:07,150 --> 02:55:11,250
difficult for us to provide the

5080
02:55:09,850 --> 02:55:16,816
necessary safety to our

5081
02:55:11,350 --> 02:55:18,650
residents in this city at this

5082
02:55:16,916 --> 02:55:20,783
point in time. I respect all of

5083
02:55:18,750 --> 02:55:23,850
the arguments here, including

5084
02:55:20,883 --> 02:55:28,083
those that I don't agree with.

5085
02:55:24,050 --> 02:55:31,316
my ask today though is that we

5086
02:55:28,183 --> 02:55:32,816
find a way to work together, to

5087
02:55:31,416 --> 02:55:35,150
provide the service and the

5088
02:55:32,916 --> 02:55:37,783
safety that I believe residents,

5089
02:55:35,250 --> 02:55:41,316
and by extension, council

5090
02:55:37,883 --> 02:55:44,150
members are deserving of. This

5091
02:55:41,416 --> 02:55:47,316
pilot, this program was not

5092
02:55:44,250 --> 02:55:47,983
entered in a half hazard

5093
02:55:47,416 --> 02:55:49,416
fashion. As council member vetaw

5094
02:55:48,083 --> 02:55:54,483
can attest, I'm sure she would

5095
02:55:49,516 --> 02:55:55,616
have liked it to come forward

5096
02:55:54,583 --> 02:55:58,350
earlier, years ago. We have done

5097
02:55:55,716 --> 02:56:01,350
a lot of work on this. I'm

5098
02:55:58,450 --> 02:56:03,916
grateful to our police officers

5099
02:56:01,450 --> 02:56:06,916
who have done due diligence to

5100
02:56:04,016 --> 02:56:10,783
put together the plan, address

5101
02:56:07,016 --> 02:56:12,783
concerns, understand the law. I

5102
02:56:10,883 --> 02:56:16,450
am impressed by the work. I ask

5103
02:56:12,883 --> 02:56:18,250
that we have the opportunity to

5104
02:56:16,550 --> 02:56:21,383
move forward with this important

5105
02:56:18,350 --> 02:56:23,450
pilot and the ability to provide

5106
02:56:21,483 --> 02:56:24,783
safety in the immediacy to

5107
02:56:23,550 --> 02:56:27,783
residents that need it. Thank

5108
02:56:24,883 --> 02:56:28,316
you council mbers.

5109
02:56:27,916 --> 02:56:29,450
» Ouncil member chavez.

5110
02:56:28,916 --> 02:56:33,050
» Thank you, council president

5111
02:56:29,550 --> 02:56:36,816
payne. I just wanted to say that

5112
02:56:33,150 --> 02:56:39,150
concerns with ice are not

5113
02:56:36,916 --> 02:56:41,150
geopolitics. Surveilling ice out

5114
02:56:39,250 --> 02:56:43,483
protests using these drones is

5115
02:56:41,250 --> 02:56:44,616
not geopolitics. Surveilling

5116
02:56:43,583 --> 02:56:46,750
people who are playing

5117
02:56:44,716 --> 02:56:47,916
basketball is not geopolitics.

5118
02:56:46,850 --> 02:56:50,650
having concerns about the use of

5119
02:56:48,016 --> 02:56:51,850
these drones is not geopolitics,

5120
02:56:50,750 --> 02:56:53,283
it is just concerns we have

5121
02:56:51,950 --> 02:56:55,516
about surveillance in our city.

5122
02:56:53,383 --> 02:56:57,050
I just wanted to add that

5123
02:56:55,616 --> 02:56:58,583
comment. Going back to my

5124
02:56:57,150 --> 02:57:01,516
question as I mentioned earlier,

5125
02:56:58,683 --> 02:57:02,616
the contract states that

5126
02:57:01,616 --> 02:57:03,883
skydio's collection use and

5127
02:57:02,716 --> 02:57:05,083
sharing of personal information

5128
02:57:03,983 --> 02:57:08,083
is governed by the company's

5129
02:57:05,183 --> 02:57:10,516
privacy policy. The company's

5130
02:57:08,183 --> 02:57:11,983
privacy policy says it does not

5131
02:57:10,616 --> 02:57:12,916
govern how they disclose

5132
02:57:12,083 --> 02:57:14,983
personal information for

5133
02:57:13,016 --> 02:57:16,650
customers who use this type of

5134
02:57:15,083 --> 02:57:19,383
service, which we're talking

5135
02:57:16,750 --> 02:57:21,650
about here. So if the privacy

5136
02:57:19,483 --> 02:57:22,883
policy does not govern skydio's

5137
02:57:21,750 --> 02:57:24,583
use and sharing of personal

5138
02:57:22,983 --> 02:57:26,383
information and the contracts

5139
02:57:24,683 --> 02:57:28,150
mention privacy rights,

5140
02:57:26,483 --> 02:57:29,483
mentioning the privacy policy,

5141
02:57:28,250 --> 02:57:31,383
which doesn't govern here based

5142
02:57:29,583 --> 02:57:33,116
on my reading, skydio claimed

5143
02:57:31,483 --> 02:57:35,250
they will not have access to

5144
02:57:33,216 --> 02:57:37,516
data. My question is what

5145
02:57:35,350 --> 02:57:39,050
governs skydio's collection use

5146
02:57:37,616 --> 02:57:42,116
and sharing of personal

5147
02:57:39,150 --> 02:57:44,550
information they may collect.

5148
02:57:42,383 --> 02:57:45,183
» So council member payne and

5149
02:57:44,650 --> 02:57:46,950
council member chavez, with

5150
02:57:45,283 --> 02:57:48,416
regards to the data collection,

5151
02:57:47,050 --> 02:57:50,150
that was something we were

5152
02:57:48,516 --> 02:57:51,616
concerned about, as well as our

5153
02:57:50,250 --> 02:57:53,783
city attorneys. Initially when

5154
02:57:51,716 --> 02:57:56,183
we saw the contract, we reworded

5155
02:57:53,883 --> 02:57:58,350
it that way so they would have

5156
02:57:56,316 --> 02:58:00,333
no say in how we collect our

5157
02:57:58,450 --> 02:58:03,466
data. So we would set the

5158
02:58:00,433 --> 02:58:05,233
parameters on how we would

5159
02:58:03,566 --> 02:58:07,233
document these incidents, and

5160
02:58:05,333 --> 02:58:08,700
then from there they are just

5161
02:58:07,333 --> 02:58:11,966
helping us basically set

5162
02:58:08,800 --> 02:58:12,166
different parameters to help us

5163
02:58:12,066 --> 02:58:14,366
out.

5164
02:58:12,300 --> 02:58:15,866
» So it would be set after if

5165
02:58:14,466 --> 02:58:17,333
this were to get approved?

5166
02:58:15,966 --> 02:58:17,733
» For all of the data?

5167
02:58:17,433 --> 02:58:20,733
» Yes.

5168
02:58:17,933 --> 02:58:23,400
» So, we would collect all of

5169
02:58:20,833 --> 02:58:24,466
the data in-house and then we

5170
02:58:23,500 --> 02:58:27,333
would present it to council.

5171
02:58:25,300 --> 02:58:27,866
» I'm concerned about the

5172
02:58:27,433 --> 02:58:31,633
guardrails here.

5173
02:58:27,966 --> 02:58:33,166
» What guard rail? I'm

5174
02:58:31,733 --> 02:58:34,933
confused. I am going to the next

5175
02:58:33,266 --> 02:58:36,000
one because I have limited time.

5176
02:58:35,033 --> 02:58:38,600
if something goes wrong during

5177
02:58:36,100 --> 02:58:39,800
the pilot or a data breach, the

5178
02:58:38,700 --> 02:58:43,133
contracts seems like it give it

5179
02:58:39,900 --> 02:58:43,966
is city no meaningful recourse,

5180
02:58:43,233 --> 02:58:46,400
the service level agreement

5181
02:58:44,066 --> 02:58:48,433
doesn't apply to any of the

5182
02:58:46,500 --> 02:58:52,833
services offered on the trial

5183
02:58:48,533 --> 02:58:56,500
pilot or beta basis. Neither the

5184
02:58:52,933 --> 02:58:58,433
warranty or the dao warranty

5185
02:58:56,600 --> 02:59:00,133
under the trial period and

5186
02:58:58,533 --> 02:59:04,300
skydio's total liability to a

5187
02:59:00,233 --> 02:59:07,866
city for any claim is capped at

5188
02:59:04,400 --> 02:59:09,900
the amount the city paid skydio,

5189
02:59:07,966 --> 02:59:12,133
which in this instance, it's a

5190
02:59:10,000 --> 02:59:15,000
free trial so it's $0. I am

5191
02:59:12,233 --> 02:59:17,000
concerned that we will be flying

5192
02:59:15,100 --> 02:59:18,400
this technology that contracted

5193
02:59:17,100 --> 02:59:21,400
away our responsibilities for

5194
02:59:18,500 --> 02:59:24,100
the consequences of violations.

5195
02:59:21,500 --> 02:59:25,333
can you explain under skydio's

5196
02:59:24,200 --> 02:59:28,033
terms if a drone crashes or

5197
02:59:25,433 --> 02:59:30,200
causes a data breach during this

5198
02:59:28,133 --> 02:59:32,833
trial, what is skydio's actual

5199
02:59:30,300 --> 02:59:34,133
financial liability to the city

5200
02:59:32,933 --> 02:59:38,366
and can they confirm whether

5201
02:59:34,233 --> 02:59:40,266
that liability is 0?

5202
02:59:38,466 --> 02:59:40,900
» So council member payne and

5203
02:59:40,366 --> 02:59:42,300
council member chavez, with

5204
02:59:41,000 --> 02:59:44,300
regards to data breaches that

5205
02:59:42,400 --> 02:59:46,233
you are talking about, I know

5206
02:59:44,400 --> 02:59:47,600
there are concerns. However,

5207
02:59:46,333 --> 02:59:49,833
there hasn't been any documented

5208
02:59:47,700 --> 02:59:51,866
cases that I am aware of any

5209
02:59:49,933 --> 02:59:54,900
data breaches. However, we are

5210
02:59:51,966 --> 02:59:56,300
working closelyith our I.t.

5211
02:59:55,000 --> 02:59:58,366
unit and we will deal with it as

5212
02:59:56,633 --> 03:00:01,066
it comes. For now, there hasn't

5213
02:59:58,466 --> 03:00:01,966
been any documented cases,

5214
03:00:01,166 --> 03:00:03,300
again, when we're utilizing

5215
03:00:02,066 --> 03:00:05,966
these drones, we're going

5216
03:00:03,400 --> 03:00:13,300
through axon, and we have

5217
03:00:06,066 --> 03:00:16,166
already been usineing axon.

5218
03:00:13,400 --> 03:00:16,833
everything gets updated through

5219
03:00:16,266 --> 03:00:18,366
their servers.

5220
03:00:17,433 --> 03:00:20,166
» Section 12.2, skydio will

5221
03:00:18,466 --> 03:00:22,033
notify the city before complying

5222
03:00:20,266 --> 03:00:22,900
with a legal demand for

5223
03:00:22,133 --> 03:00:24,466
confidential information but

5224
03:00:23,000 --> 03:00:26,166
only if legally permissible.

5225
03:00:24,566 --> 03:00:27,700
this contract never defines what

5226
03:00:26,266 --> 03:00:28,733
counts as confidential

5227
03:00:27,800 --> 03:00:31,000
information. It describes how

5228
03:00:28,833 --> 03:00:34,000
that information must be handled

5229
03:00:31,100 --> 03:00:36,166
but not qualifies. Section 6

5230
03:00:34,100 --> 03:00:38,966
prohibits customers from using

5231
03:00:36,266 --> 03:00:41,333
skydio drones as weapons, likely

5232
03:00:39,066 --> 03:00:43,833
to cause death or injuries. This

5233
03:00:41,433 --> 03:00:45,466
has an exception for lawful

5234
03:00:43,933 --> 03:00:48,833
government action. That phrase

5235
03:00:45,566 --> 03:00:50,100
is not defined. What makes an

5236
03:00:48,933 --> 03:00:52,133
action lawful for a government

5237
03:00:50,333 --> 03:00:54,933
to use to cause death or injury,

5238
03:00:52,233 --> 03:00:57,733
or who makes that determination.

5239
03:00:55,033 --> 03:00:59,600
the city's standard contract

5240
03:00:57,833 --> 03:01:01,033
don't apply to skydio unless

5241
03:00:59,700 --> 03:01:03,266
separately negotiated in writing

5242
03:01:01,133 --> 03:01:04,366
that includes any commitments we

5243
03:01:03,366 --> 03:01:06,266
might want from skydio around

5244
03:01:04,466 --> 03:01:07,366
data sharing guardrails with the

5245
03:01:06,366 --> 03:01:10,600
federal government when it comes

5246
03:01:07,466 --> 03:01:14,733
to ice actions, consistent with

5247
03:01:10,700 --> 03:01:19,433
our ordinance, and section 3.3

5248
03:01:14,833 --> 03:01:21,333
confirms skydio collects

5249
03:01:19,533 --> 03:01:23,633
metadata, and improves skydio's

5250
03:01:21,433 --> 03:01:25,833
current and future products.

5251
03:01:23,733 --> 03:01:28,433
that doesn't specify when or how

5252
03:01:25,933 --> 03:01:29,600
often this is generated. Lastly

5253
03:01:28,533 --> 03:01:32,000
I am concerned about how we are

5254
03:01:29,700 --> 03:01:33,300
going to use the flight footage

5255
03:01:32,566 --> 03:01:36,633
we have here.

5256
03:01:33,400 --> 03:01:37,066
» You are at time. Council

5257
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member chowdhury.

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» Thank you president payne. I

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just wanted to share that I am

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entering into the public record

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this document supplied by skydio

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called previous sales questions

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that answers several questions

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about skydio's contracting with

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the idf. So that is available to

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the public. I think everyone

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deserves to know that. There are

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several contradictions within

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this document and it highlights

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that skydio is not just a

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surveillance company, but it is

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a coractor of the ward. They

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do plan to do so. I wanted to

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highlight off the top there was

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a massive security breach just

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this last week in san francisco.

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this was under the operation of

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the san francisco police

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departnt. So it could happen he

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in another major city. We

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shouldn't take that lightly. The

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other thing I wanted to

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highlight is the fact thate

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still didn't answer the

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accountability question. There

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viually is not a way to have

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accountability on breaches of

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this scope that our department

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ma have and there has been a

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pattern and practice of misuse

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of technology in the police

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department. There just has been

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and we have the historical

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backlog. How would we get

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recourse? So, I want to be very

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clear, I am a no. There have

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been very few times where I have

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felt absolutely appalled and

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disgusted by an item that has

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come before me. I just -- like

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it is my honest truth,

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especially as a daughter of

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survivors of genocide and the

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granddaughter of a law

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enforcemen officer who had to

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revolt against a genocidal

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country, it was pakistan at the

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time, backed by u.s. Military

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aid, it does just run super deep

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and any participation in

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surveillance technology that

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participates in genocide

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ultimately aids and abets and my

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parents didn't come here for me

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to sit on this body and sanitize

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any of my feelings surrounding

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this and my deep history. This

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action is morally nkrupt. It's

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an abysmal mistake. Nothing is

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free. This costs the trust of

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our residents, this costs us

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valuable, valuable information.

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this costs us people's sense of

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freedom. Constituents are crying

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out all of the time, worried

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about surveillance and the

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impacts of this ice occupation

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exacerbating this. This was

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funded, this organization was

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funded by the big beautiful bill

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of $514,000 in 2025 for

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immigrations customs

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enforcement. I understan why

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some members of this body may

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not care about the relations to

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the I.d.f. A israel related to

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the genocid in palestine. We

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are talking also about

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immigration customs enforcement.

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we cannot going through an ice

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occupation, and say f-ice, turn

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around and the build out our

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sueillance state and saying we

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are going to have a sweetheart

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deal with the company that is

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working with ice, the same

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organization that killed our

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neighbors, brutalized our

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community, and surveilled each

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and every one of us. Those are

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facts. I think there is so much

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to consider. I keep hearing this

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is going to solve our public

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safety problems. There is no

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silver bullet to solve our

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public safety problems. We

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wouldn't be overspending our

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budgets if that wasn't clear. I

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want to dispel that illusion

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that a free pilot is going to

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solve our public safety issues.

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I think that is unfair to the

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community to set up that

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premise.

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» Council member whiting.

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» Thank you, president payne. I

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have received a substantial

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amount of constituent feedback

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on this issue, in favor and

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against this pilot. I want to

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thank everyone that has come

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within the community to speak on

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this issu I will be supporting

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this issue today and this pilot

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today and I want to talk through

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it. I want to thank council

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member vetaw for her leadership

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on this. My colleagues and

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community members have made

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extremely valid points about the

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potential negative impacts of a

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ogram like this. The civil

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liberty concerns, the

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over-policing concerns, the

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concerns about where we are

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sourcing these drones from

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particularly with the issues

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with the idf and with dhs and

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ice. A general hesitancy to

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introduce this kind of

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tenology as it relates to data

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privacy, data retention, and

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accountability measures in the

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business of policing and public

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safety. I believe it's entirely

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valid. I take those concerns

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seriously and think that issue

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alone is why we as a body should

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work to figure those out. With

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that, if this body were to

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commit themselves to a paid

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contract with this or any other

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drone first responder contract,

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I would n be supporting thi

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moon. Before the city commits

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itself to significant resources

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to a program such as this, I

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think many of my colleagues

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agree that we need a clearer

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understanding of the data that

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supports its effectiveness and

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whether our current ordinances

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and oversights are sufficient to

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limit their use in the city of

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minneapolis. I think what we

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have seen, whether it's

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effective or not effective is

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through a program such as this.

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I do not believe those polics

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are strong enough. Right now, we

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have data from other minnesota

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cities that employ programs such

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as this, including st. Paul,

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which seem to support a level of

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safety and effectiveness, but we

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have also seen across this

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country an ability for police

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departments and jurisdictions to

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abuse programs and technologies

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such as this. So if we are going

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to commit ourselves to a program

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like this, I think we would need

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a full level of information in

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front of us to make an educated

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decision. Luckily, we are not

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committing ourselves to a

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permanent paid contract today.

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we are voting to approve a time

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limited pilot that cost

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essentially $0. There is n such

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thing as a free lunch, that's

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entirely true. I think skydio

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probably clearly believes that

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if this city went forward with a

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program such as this, that we

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would be so impressed by the

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results that we wouldn't be able

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to approve a paid contract. It's

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my understanding that any

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permanent contract, any paid

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program would need to come back

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to this city council for a full

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vote, a full separate vote. This

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kind of pilot, I believe, can

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give us hard data about the

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potential uses of effectivene

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of drones or the opposite, or

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the complete failure of a

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program like this for a first

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responr's program in

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minneapolis and help us again

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make a long-term informed

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decision on effectiveness. My

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reasoning for supporting this

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motion is that I think it has

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the potential to make our city

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safer and save lives, a

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fundamental part of the police

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reform process, I believe is

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removing officers in situations

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which their bias or spontaneous

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decision making drives their

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thinking. More or less, I

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believe you can't train your way

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out of human fallibility. So,

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while we train officers, we also

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have to advance alternatives to

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traditional law enforcement. An

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officer speeding towards a shots

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fired call that can be rerouted

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because a first responder drone

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reveals that actually no shots

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were fired and they were just

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fireworks, I believe lowers the

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temperature. Drone programs when

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done with stringent

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restrictions, privacy

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protections, I believe can

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provide on the ground

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information that reduces the

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likelihood of an officer's

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arrival escalating a situation

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or provide information that an

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officer's response is entirely

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unnecessary. Our council members

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on the north side where this

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program is going to be deployed

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clearly believe that it could

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save lives. I think at least

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some deference should be shown

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to our council members that

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represent communities this will

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have the most impact. With that,

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as someone who has seen and

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grown up in this thicity. It is

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really hard for , the moral

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arguments of what is coming up

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here. I truly hear it. I believe

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the obligation that is in front

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of me as a minneapolis city

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council member is to reduce the

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harm for my residents. If that

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is the case, if this saves one

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life of an unarmed black man in

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the city of minneapolis because

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instead of an officer going into

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that call, that is something

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that we as minneapolis city

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council members need to take

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serious. As someone who has

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live in this city fory entire

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life, I have had friends,

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teammates who have been lost to

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gun violence on the north 150si

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on the south side every single

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corner of this city. If this can

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save one of their lives, it is

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worth it. If this -- not even

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st save their lives, if this

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gives a family the ability to

5531
03:12:02,233 --> 03:12:06,533
find some level of justice, some

5532
03:12:04,466 --> 03:12:09,166
level of hey, this is the person

5533
03:12:06,633 --> 03:12:15,000
that injured my loved one. That

5534
03:12:09,300 --> 03:12:16,800
is something that we have to

5535
03:12:15,100 --> 03:12:21,766
consider. If we approve this

5536
03:12:16,900 --> 03:12:23,100
pilot program, when it expires

5537
03:12:21,866 --> 03:12:24,433
in 75 days, I will be looking

5538
03:12:23,200 --> 03:12:27,666
extremely, extremely close at

5539
03:12:24,533 --> 03:12:28,833
the results and at every single

5540
03:12:27,766 --> 03:12:30,033
regulatory framework I believe

5541
03:12:28,933 --> 03:12:33,000
has to be around a program like

5542
03:12:30,133 --> 03:12:35,700
this because I think while we

5543
03:12:33,100 --> 03:12:39,433
have state safeguards and

5544
03:12:35,800 --> 03:12:41,233
guardrails in place, I don't

5545
03:12:39,533 --> 03:12:43,533
think they go far enough. I want

5546
03:12:41,333 --> 03:12:45,666
to thank those who reached out

5547
03:12:44,133 --> 03:12:46,866
to this council because I

5548
03:12:45,766 --> 03:12:49,800
believe there are valid points

5549
03:12:46,966 --> 03:12:51,133
across this dais and I am

5550
03:12:49,900 --> 03:12:54,866
encouraged that this city and

5551
03:12:51,233 --> 03:12:56,466
that my council colleagues are

5552
03:12:54,966 --> 03:12:58,700
putting weight to those

5553
03:12:56,566 --> 03:12:59,400
conversations. Thank you.

5554
03:12:58,900 --> 03:13:02,766
» Council member warren.

5555
03:13:02,000 --> 03:13:04,333
» Thank you, council president

5556
03:13:02,866 --> 03:13:07,766
payne. First of all, I want to

5557
03:13:04,433 --> 03:13:15,733
say congratulations to my

5558
03:13:07,866 --> 03:13:21,666
council colleague council member

5559
03:13:15,833 --> 03:13:22,400
vetaw for your research the last

5560
03:13:21,766 --> 03:13:23,233
2.5 years and all those

5561
03:13:22,500 --> 03:13:26,233
individuals that worked hard

5562
03:13:23,333 --> 03:13:28,700
with you on this project. It is

5563
03:13:26,333 --> 03:13:29,766
really interesting when my

5564
03:13:28,800 --> 03:13:31,366
council colleague had initially

5565
03:13:29,866 --> 03:13:32,400
started sharing with me that

5566
03:13:31,466 --> 03:13:34,766
this was something she was

5567
03:13:32,500 --> 03:13:37,766
working on. I was very, I was

5568
03:13:34,866 --> 03:13:43,300
very proud of her because there

5569
03:13:37,866 --> 03:13:49,233
are a lot of things that I know

5570
03:13:43,400 --> 03:13:51,200
that we take for granted. There

5571
03:13:49,366 --> 03:13:54,066
is the fact that we as average

5572
03:13:51,300 --> 03:13:56,300
americans are on camera 35 to 45

5573
03:13:54,166 --> 03:13:57,466
times a day. You're on camera.

5574
03:13:56,400 --> 03:13:58,666
someone is always watching

5575
03:13:57,566 --> 03:14:00,600
what's going on, walking down

5576
03:13:58,766 --> 03:14:02,466
the street, from the ring

5577
03:14:00,700 --> 03:14:04,166
cameras, here there, what have

5578
03:14:02,566 --> 03:14:13,333
you. No one is asking where that

5579
03:14:04,266 --> 03:14:16,333
information and data is stored.

5580
03:14:13,433 --> 03:14:18,233
no one is asking where alexa and

5581
03:14:16,433 --> 03:14:19,966
siri, who is tracking you, where

5582
03:14:18,333 --> 03:14:23,066
they are storing the data on

5583
03:14:20,066 --> 03:14:28,833
where they are tracking you,

5584
03:14:23,166 --> 03:14:34,400
what you're doing, what's going

5585
03:14:28,933 --> 03:14:37,900
on. No one is asking who apple

5586
03:14:34,500 --> 03:14:42,200
and samsung is selling their

5587
03:14:38,000 --> 03:14:46,100
phones to. Everyone has the same

5588
03:14:42,300 --> 03:14:50,400
things, levi's and nikes too.

5589
03:14:46,200 --> 03:14:53,200
it's the same stuff. We're no

5590
03:14:50,500 --> 03:14:55,266
different the people in those

5591
03:14:53,300 --> 03:14:57,933
places are not asking what's

5592
03:14:55,366 --> 03:14:59,300
happeng in north minneapolis

5593
03:14:58,133 --> 03:15:01,600
or minnesota. They're not

5594
03:14:59,400 --> 03:15:04,233
standing up for what's happening

5595
03:15:01,700 --> 03:15:07,733
over here when things are

5596
03:15:04,333 --> 03:15:11,366
happening in our immediate

5597
03:15:07,833 --> 03:15:13,366
communities. They're not saying

5598
03:15:11,466 --> 03:15:17,900
do you sell that cup to a girl

5599
03:15:13,466 --> 03:15:19,566
in north minneapolis? If so, I

5600
03:15:18,000 --> 03:15:21,900
am not sure I want to buy it. No

5601
03:15:19,666 --> 03:15:23,500
one is saying that but us and

5602
03:15:22,000 --> 03:15:24,833
that's cky. When we have

5603
03:15:23,600 --> 03:15:27,066
serious things at stake here

5604
03:15:24,933 --> 03:15:30,700
that we're trying to work on to

5605
03:15:27,166 --> 03:15:36,700
build imbetterment for our

5606
03:15:30,800 --> 03:15:38,900
community and ourselves. Drones

5607
03:15:36,800 --> 03:15:41,700
don't shoot at people unless

5608
03:15:39,000 --> 03:15:44,300
they are armed with a weapon.

5609
03:15:41,800 --> 03:15:46,433
these ones aren't. They're not

5610
03:15:44,400 --> 03:15:48,266
reading your text messages, but

5611
03:15:46,533 --> 03:15:52,400
your phone does. They're not

5612
03:15:48,366 --> 03:15:57,200
listening to your conversations

5613
03:15:52,500 --> 03:16:00,533
unless they're armed with audio.

5614
03:15:57,300 --> 03:16:02,333
they're going to report on

5615
03:16:00,633 --> 03:16:05,333
incident. That's all they're

5616
03:16:02,433 --> 03:16:07,900
doing to say if the coast is

5617
03:16:05,433 --> 03:16:10,533
clear so emergency officials

5618
03:16:08,000 --> 03:16:12,566
like the fire department can

5619
03:16:10,633 --> 03:16:15,966
pull up because they can't do

5620
03:16:12,666 --> 03:16:20,000
that until the coast is clear,

5621
03:16:16,066 --> 03:16:21,666
until they know it's an all

5622
03:16:20,100 --> 03:16:24,366
clear, to save someone's life.

5623
03:16:21,766 --> 03:16:30,233
that's it. I'm just asking for

5624
03:16:24,466 --> 03:16:32,500
lifesaving opportunities. I

5625
03:16:30,333 --> 03:16:35,366
don't understand why that is

5626
03:16:32,600 --> 03:16:37,033
such a challenging thing to

5627
03:16:35,466 --> 03:16:39,866
think about. Maybe until it's

5628
03:16:37,133 --> 03:16:41,200
you and you need a lifesaving

5629
03:16:39,966 --> 03:16:44,166
measure, you don't think about

5630
03:16:41,300 --> 03:16:49,233
what could have been done in

5631
03:16:44,266 --> 03:16:51,566
that immediate moment to save

5632
03:16:49,333 --> 03:16:55,333
your life, t prevent something

5633
03:16:51,666 --> 03:16:57,833
from happening, to go one step

5634
03:16:55,433 --> 03:16:59,966
further. I know you can heckle

5635
03:16:57,933 --> 03:17:01,633
and all of those things and it's

5636
03:17:00,066 --> 03:17:05,100
fine and cool. At the end of the

5637
03:17:01,733 --> 03:17:06,700
day, there are people in my

5638
03:17:05,200 --> 03:17:13,700
community who are asking for

5639
03:17:06,800 --> 03:17:15,733
these things. There are people

5640
03:17:14,100 --> 03:17:18,766
in my community who are opposed

5641
03:17:15,866 --> 03:17:21,300
to it. There are people who are

5642
03:17:18,866 --> 03:17:24,833
opposed to a lot of things too.

5643
03:17:21,400 --> 03:17:30,933
it's a test. It's to figure out,

5644
03:17:24,933 --> 03:17:33,466
it's research. The biggest thing

5645
03:17:31,033 --> 03:17:34,900
that is interesting to me in my

5646
03:17:33,566 --> 03:17:36,666
research with skydio is that

5647
03:17:35,000 --> 03:17:38,066
their drones are pretty weak.

5648
03:17:36,766 --> 03:17:40,766
actually, the drones that you

5649
03:17:38,166 --> 03:17:43,833
have at the minneapolis police

5650
03:17:40,866 --> 03:17:46,566
department are alleged to be a

5651
03:17:43,933 --> 03:17:50,433
lot better than skydio's drones.

5652
03:17:46,666 --> 03:17:55,633
so we're getting a washed out

5653
03:17:50,533 --> 03:17:57,033
version right now. I don't know

5654
03:17:55,733 --> 03:17:59,300
where you got the versions you

5655
03:17:57,133 --> 03:18:02,166
have. Why aren't we using those?

5656
03:17:59,400 --> 03:18:07,100
» I'll speak to that.

5657
03:18:05,400 --> 03:18:08,133
» Council member payne and

5658
03:18:07,200 --> 03:18:09,633
council member warren, the

5659
03:18:08,233 --> 03:18:11,266
reason why we're not going with

5660
03:18:09,733 --> 03:18:12,966
our current manufacturer of

5661
03:18:11,366 --> 03:18:15,333
drones is because a few years

5662
03:18:13,066 --> 03:18:18,700
ago, the federal government came

5663
03:18:15,833 --> 03:18:20,766
up with basically an act through

5664
03:18:18,800 --> 03:18:23,000
the nda. Because of this

5665
03:18:20,866 --> 03:18:24,233
authorization act, it basically

5666
03:18:23,100 --> 03:18:27,933
questioned our current fleet of

5667
03:18:24,333 --> 03:18:29,200
drones right now. We utilize dgi

5668
03:18:28,033 --> 03:18:30,500
drones and the federal

5669
03:18:29,300 --> 03:18:32,633
government is basically saying

5670
03:18:30,600 --> 03:18:34,366
they want to put a stoppage on

5671
03:18:32,733 --> 03:18:37,133
fcc licenses. So for those who

5672
03:18:34,466 --> 03:18:38,300
are not aware, every drone,

5673
03:18:37,233 --> 03:18:41,866
whenever they come through

5674
03:18:38,400 --> 03:18:44,300
customs, gets provided an fcc

5675
03:18:41,966 --> 03:18:46,000
license. Because the government

5676
03:18:44,400 --> 03:18:48,966
has questioned that our current

5677
03:18:46,100 --> 03:18:51,000
fleet of drones, which is dgi

5678
03:18:49,066 --> 03:18:54,433
has potential security concerns,

5679
03:18:51,100 --> 03:18:56,933
they put a stoppage on fcc

5680
03:18:54,533 --> 03:18:58,800
licenses for dgi products.

5681
03:18:57,033 --> 03:19:02,100
that's why we're opting to go

5682
03:18:58,900 --> 03:19:03,433
with more nda compliant drones,

5683
03:19:02,200 --> 03:19:04,833
which are acknowledge to be more

5684
03:19:03,533 --> 03:19:06,333
safe by the federal government.

5685
03:19:04,933 --> 03:19:08,000
» So the drones that you

5686
03:19:06,433 --> 03:19:11,500
currently are using are far more

5687
03:19:08,100 --> 03:19:11,800
dangerous than these drones?

5688
03:19:11,600 --> 03:19:15,500
allegedly.

5689
03:19:13,100 --> 03:19:15,800
» Allegedly.

5690
03:19:15,600 --> 03:19:18,300
[laughter].

5691
03:19:15,900 --> 03:19:20,466
» Okay. Well, we are getting a

5692
03:19:18,400 --> 03:19:22,100
knock off. Heck, let's try the

5693
03:19:20,566 --> 03:19:26,300
knock off for 75 days. I will

5694
03:19:22,200 --> 03:19:27,800
take the knock off for 75 days.

5695
03:19:26,400 --> 03:19:29,333
thank you.

5696
03:19:28,366 --> 03:19:32,833
» Council member stevenson.

5697
03:19:29,933 --> 03:19:34,100
» Knock off for 75 days, that

5698
03:19:32,933 --> 03:19:36,233
sounds great. I want to talk

5699
03:19:34,200 --> 03:19:37,733
about the context that we're

5700
03:19:36,333 --> 03:19:39,800
considering this in. I have a

5701
03:19:37,833 --> 03:19:42,033
few different things, so bear

5702
03:19:39,900 --> 03:19:43,666
with me. The first is this

5703
03:19:42,133 --> 03:19:45,500
morning we heard honorary

5704
03:19:43,766 --> 03:19:47,866
resolution about the 250th

5705
03:19:45,600 --> 03:19:49,700
anniversary of the declaration

5706
03:19:48,100 --> 03:19:51,366
of independence. So, it got me

5707
03:19:49,800 --> 03:19:52,800
thinking a little bit about our

5708
03:19:51,466 --> 03:19:54,133
founding documents. So I just

5709
03:19:52,900 --> 03:19:56,033
want to read the 4th amendment.

5710
03:19:54,233 --> 03:19:58,466
the right of the people to be

5711
03:19:56,133 --> 03:20:00,833
secure I their persons, houses,

5712
03:19:58,566 --> 03:20:02,033
papers, and effects against

5713
03:20:00,933 --> 03:20:03,933
unreasonable searches and

5714
03:20:02,133 --> 03:20:06,133
seizures shall not be violated

5715
03:20:04,033 --> 03:20:07,433
and no warrant shall issue but

5716
03:20:06,233 --> 03:20:09,533
upon pbable cause supported by

5717
03:20:07,533 --> 03:20:10,800
oath or affirmation and

5718
03:20:09,633 --> 03:20:12,700
particularly describing the

5719
03:20:10,900 --> 03:20:15,266
place to be searched and the

5720
03:20:12,800 --> 03:20:17,900
persons or things to be seized.

5721
03:20:15,366 --> 03:20:19,733
while the courts may not have

5722
03:20:18,000 --> 03:20:22,433
found skydio and surveillance

5723
03:20:19,833 --> 03:20:25,300
drones as explicitly illegal to

5724
03:20:22,533 --> 03:20:26,500
me, it strikes me as

5725
03:20:25,400 --> 03:20:28,166
un-american. This is not within

5726
03:20:26,600 --> 03:20:32,900
our culture. This is not within

5727
03:20:28,266 --> 03:20:35,700
our tradition to allow this kind

5728
03:20:34,400 --> 03:20:38,716
of surveillance and it rubs me

5729
03:20:35,800 --> 03:20:40,500
the wrong way and it rubs a

5730
03:20:38,833 --> 03:20:43,066
great, great numberf might

5731
03:20:40,600 --> 03:20:45,733
constituents the wrong way. Cou

5732
03:20:43,166 --> 03:20:47,100
clearly laid o the level of

5733
03:20:45,833 --> 03:20:50,433
surveillance that we're under

5734
03:20:47,200 --> 03:20:53,500
now and how disturbing it is. It

5735
03:20:50,866 --> 03:20:54,666
is disturbing that amazon is

5736
03:20:53,633 --> 03:20:59,200
nstantly listening to you.

5737
03:20:54,766 --> 03:21:02,600
it's disturbing that I'll have a

5738
03:20:59,300 --> 03:21:05,166
conversation with my partner ab

5739
03:21:02,700 --> 03:21:07,766
children and then get baby ads

5740
03:21:05,266 --> 03:21:09,900
moments lar. That's

5741
03:21:07,866 --> 03:21:11,966
disturbing. It's disturbing that

5742
03:21:10,000 --> 03:21:15,566
ice was able to use cameras in

5743
03:21:12,066 --> 03:21:20,466
our city to follow us during

5744
03:21:15,666 --> 03:21:22,833
this recent, very recent

5745
03:21:20,566 --> 03:21:27,833
occupation to report, brutalize,

5746
03:21:22,933 --> 03:21:28,833
and murder our anybodies. --

5747
03:21:27,933 --> 03:21:30,733
neighbors. I don't think we

5748
03:21:28,933 --> 03:21:32,233
should add to that problem. So

5749
03:21:30,833 --> 03:21:34,666
what context are we considering

5750
03:21:32,333 --> 03:21:37,933
this in? In the context of

5751
03:21:34,766 --> 03:21:38,566
minneapolis in 2026. In

5752
03:21:38,033 --> 03:21:41,000
minneapolis 2026, the federal

5753
03:21:38,666 --> 03:21:45,933
government came in and occupied

5754
03:21:41,100 --> 03:21:48,400
our city, they hijacked our

5755
03:21:46,033 --> 03:21:50,300
public safety systems, and used

5756
03:21:48,500 --> 03:21:51,833
that information to steal our

5757
03:21:50,400 --> 03:21:54,333
neighbors and murder other

5758
03:21:51,933 --> 03:21:56,000
neighbors. I believe it's naive

5759
03:21:54,566 --> 03:21:58,033
to think that ice won't get

5760
03:21:56,100 --> 03:21:59,266
access to the data from skydio.

5761
03:21:58,166 --> 03:22:03,333
I can't tell you ectly how

5762
03:21:59,366 --> 03:22:04,933
they would get it. It just seems

5763
03:22:03,433 --> 03:22:07,033
very obvious that they would get

5764
03:22:05,033 --> 03:22:08,500
it, particularly in light of the

5765
03:22:07,133 --> 03:22:12,666
recent data breach out of san

5766
03:22:08,600 --> 03:22:13,866
francisco, I believe. Lastly,

5767
03:22:12,766 --> 03:22:19,533
again, we are considering this

5768
03:22:13,966 --> 03:22:20,833
in the context of a place and

5769
03:22:19,633 --> 03:22:23,900
time. Skydio has helped

5770
03:22:20,933 --> 03:22:26,466
prosecute a genocide in gaza.

5771
03:22:24,000 --> 03:22:31,000
that alone, we're talking about

5772
03:22:26,566 --> 03:22:34,466
innocent lives and I don't think

5773
03:22:31,100 --> 03:22:35,800
we suld be party to an

5774
03:22:34,566 --> 03:22:37,233
oration, to a company that says

5775
03:22:35,900 --> 03:22:40,866
their technology used to

5776
03:22:37,333 --> 03:22:42,833
prosecute genocide is fine with

5777
03:22:40,966 --> 03:22:44,866
them. So each of these levels of

5778
03:22:42,933 --> 03:22:46,900
context alone frankly is enough

5779
03:22:44,966 --> 03:22:48,833
for me. I have to be fully

5780
03:22:47,000 --> 03:22:52,166
honest with my constituents.

5781
03:22:48,933 --> 03:22:53,466
when this first came up, there

5782
03:22:52,266 --> 03:22:55,300
was some speculation on whether

5783
03:22:53,566 --> 03:22:57,933
it would be used to catch people

5784
03:22:55,400 --> 03:22:59,766
doing the smash and grabs that

5785
03:22:58,033 --> 03:23:01,866
we experience and all across the

5786
03:22:59,866 --> 03:23:04,133
city. At the time, it was a lot

5787
03:23:01,966 --> 03:23:05,433
in south minneapolis. So I was

5788
03:23:04,233 --> 03:23:07,200
actually really considering

5789
03:23:05,533 --> 03:23:09,566
this. I was thinking maybe this

5790
03:23:07,300 --> 03:23:12,000
is a good idea. When we listen

5791
03:23:09,666 --> 03:23:13,700
to the context that we' in,

5792
03:23:12,100 --> 03:23:15,833
the context of an american

5793
03:23:13,800 --> 03:23:17,600
tradition of freedom from

5794
03:23:15,933 --> 03:23:18,833
government repression that is so

5795
03:23:17,700 --> 03:23:21,833
under threat right now. The

5796
03:23:18,933 --> 03:23:25,433
context of a federal occupation

5797
03:23:21,933 --> 03:23:28,300
and the lack of data security,

5798
03:23:25,533 --> 03:23:29,800
and the real threat that there

5799
03:23:28,400 --> 03:23:31,300
will be an additional federal

5800
03:23:29,900 --> 03:23:32,800
occupation, whether around our

5801
03:23:31,400 --> 03:23:34,700
electionsr another surge to

5802
03:23:32,900 --> 03:23:35,800
steal more of our neighbors and

5803
03:23:34,800 --> 03:23:39,466
the context that the company

5804
03:23:35,900 --> 03:23:40,500
that we'reanting to do

5805
03:23:39,600 --> 03:23:43,633
buness with parents in

5806
03:23:40,600 --> 03:23:45,100
genocide. These things. So I

5807
03:23:43,733 --> 03:23:47,733
cannot support this. I won't

5808
03:23:45,200 --> 03:23:50,200
support it. Thank you.

5809
03:23:47,916 --> 03:23:51,733
» Council member woley.

5810
03:23:51,200 --> 03:23:55,166
» Thank you, president payne. I

5811
03:23:51,833 --> 03:23:56,666
just wanted to share something

5812
03:23:55,266 --> 03:23:58,000
that council member warren

5813
03:23:56,766 --> 03:24:00,466
mentioned that one of the things

5814
03:23:58,100 --> 03:24:05,800
we need to consider is y know,

5815
03:24:00,566 --> 03:24:07,100
when we're sidciting other

5816
03:24:05,900 --> 03:24:09,700
countries and other demographics

5817
03:24:07,200 --> 03:24:12,566
for our reason of not wanting to

5818
03:24:09,800 --> 03:24:14,600
enter into contracts with

5819
03:24:12,666 --> 03:24:15,700
questionable governments and

5820
03:24:14,700 --> 03:24:18,133
entities when they don't show up

5821
03:24:15,800 --> 03:24:20,666
for us. I just had to sha my

5822
03:24:18,233 --> 03:24:24,833
own testimony that contrasts

5823
03:24:20,766 --> 03:24:29,233
that. In 2020, when george floyd

5824
03:24:24,933 --> 03:24:31,933
was killed, thousands of us were

5825
03:24:29,333 --> 03:24:35,066
in the streets being tear gassed

5826
03:24:32,033 --> 03:24:37,300
by the minneapolis police

5827
03:24:35,166 --> 03:24:40,833
department, I recall palestinian

5828
03:24:37,400 --> 03:24:41,533
organizers reaching out and

5829
03:24:40,933 --> 03:24:44,866
organizing workshops for those

5830
03:24:41,866 --> 03:24:47,166
of us, black folks to learn how

5831
03:24:44,966 --> 03:24:49,600
we could take care of each other

5832
03:24:47,266 --> 03:24:51,900
when we were being tear gassed,

5833
03:24:49,700 --> 03:24:53,400
how to treat munition wounds,

5834
03:24:52,000 --> 03:24:55,266
and all sorts of things because

5835
03:24:53,500 --> 03:24:58,033
those are the things they

5836
03:24:55,366 --> 03:25:00,033
experienced day after day even

5837
03:24:58,133 --> 03:25:01,266
more while living under

5838
03:25:00,133 --> 03:25:04,366
apartheid conditions. So I don't

5839
03:25:01,366 --> 03:25:06,233
have that experience. I remember

5840
03:25:04,466 --> 03:25:08,066
seeing even under those

5841
03:25:06,333 --> 03:25:09,600
apartheid and segregated

5842
03:25:08,166 --> 03:25:11,233
conditions, they used the wall

5843
03:25:09,700 --> 03:25:14,000
that the state of israel has

5844
03:25:11,333 --> 03:25:17,366
used as a barrier to confine

5845
03:25:14,100 --> 03:25:21,566
them to substandard conditions,

5846
03:25:17,466 --> 03:25:22,200
even in those moments of us

5847
03:25:21,666 --> 03:25:25,866
exper

5848
03:25:22,300 --> 03:25:28,000
experiencing one of the most

5849
03:25:25,966 --> 03:25:30,066
gravest trajdyes that this city

5850
03:25:28,100 --> 03:25:31,400
has seen next to the federal

5851
03:25:30,166 --> 03:25:34,266
occupation. They painted murals

5852
03:25:32,533 --> 03:25:36,833
of george floyd and so many

5853
03:25:34,366 --> 03:25:39,633
pictures of minneapolis in

5854
03:25:36,933 --> 03:25:41,000
solidarity with us and made the

5855
03:25:39,733 --> 03:25:42,283
connection of the over-policing

5856
03:25:41,100 --> 03:25:44,533
because many of our law

5857
03:25:42,400 --> 03:25:46,633
enforcement agencies are

5858
03:25:44,633 --> 03:25:48,666
alongside the idf, made the

5859
03:25:46,733 --> 03:25:50,433
connections to say we know the

5860
03:25:48,766 --> 03:25:54,116
injustice and abuses we suffer

5861
03:25:50,533 --> 03:25:56,133
here and by the hands of a

5862
03:25:54,233 --> 03:25:57,666
fascist state of israel, we know

5863
03:25:56,233 --> 03:25:59,866
you are experiencing that under

5864
03:25:57,766 --> 03:26:02,533
your racist policing system as

5865
03:25:59,966 --> 03:26:05,766
well. For me, that is the reason

5866
03:26:02,633 --> 03:26:07,700
why I think of those folks when

5867
03:26:05,866 --> 03:26:10,000
I brought the ceasefire

5868
03:26:07,800 --> 03:26:12,333
resolution, where we explicitly

5869
03:26:10,100 --> 03:26:15,366
named as part of that resolution

5870
03:26:12,433 --> 03:26:16,700
that we would not enter into

5871
03:26:15,466 --> 03:26:18,466
contracts or agreements that

5872
03:26:16,800 --> 03:26:20,833
help to fund and support the

5873
03:26:18,566 --> 03:26:21,866
genocide in gaza. This is

5874
03:26:20,933 --> 03:26:23,933
literally one of the moments

5875
03:26:21,966 --> 03:26:27,266
where we get to act in alignment

5876
03:26:24,033 --> 03:26:31,633
with that resolution we passed

5877
03:26:27,366 --> 03:26:35,700
and when may frey vetoed it. I

5878
03:26:31,766 --> 03:26:37,300
nnot resonate with that, that

5879
03:26:35,800 --> 03:26:40,500
sentiment in my experience.

5880
03:26:37,400 --> 03:26:43,833
also, I wanted to name the

5881
03:26:40,600 --> 03:26:52,300
opposition is not rooted in a

5882
03:26:43,933 --> 03:26:52,866
vocal minority. We had in our

5883
03:26:52,400 --> 03:26:57,000
public health, safety, and

5884
03:26:52,966 --> 03:26:58,533
equity committee received over

5885
03:26:57,100 --> 03:27:01,900
300 petition signatures, not by

5886
03:26:58,633 --> 03:27:04,833
my residents, in ward 2, not by

5887
03:27:02,000 --> 03:27:09,100
ward 9, all ward 4 and 5, north

5888
03:27:04,933 --> 03:27:10,666
minneapolis residents. These

5889
03:27:09,200 --> 03:27:12,233
petitions have, and I will

5890
03:27:10,766 --> 03:27:14,433
forward them if they are not

5891
03:27:12,333 --> 03:27:16,833
entered into the record, into

5892
03:27:14,533 --> 03:27:19,933
our file so they can be recorded

5893
03:27:16,966 --> 03:27:21,933
to sw who was speaking out

5894
03:27:20,033 --> 03:27:23,166
about this pilot long before we

5895
03:27:22,033 --> 03:27:26,533
consered it and while we were

5896
03:27:23,266 --> 03:27:28,200
considering it in committee. I

5897
03:27:26,633 --> 03:27:30,466
wanted to name in terms of when

5898
03:27:28,300 --> 03:27:32,166
I am thinking of my votes, I

5899
03:27:30,566 --> 03:27:35,566
cannot say other countries,

5900
03:27:32,266 --> 03:27:40,666
other demographics who have been

5901
03:27:35,666 --> 03:27:41,633
opposed, who know what it feels

5902
03:27:40,766 --> 03:27:43,666
conditions, why they didn't show

5903
03:27:41,733 --> 03:27:45,600
up for me. That has not been my

5904
03:27:43,766 --> 03:27:47,066
experience. I also am grateful

5905
03:27:45,700 --> 03:27:48,466
for those north minneapolis

5906
03:27:47,166 --> 03:27:50,500
residents who did come forward

5907
03:27:48,566 --> 03:27:52,200
and shared their opposition when

5908
03:27:50,600 --> 03:27:57,066
they are being named as rational

5909
03:27:52,300 --> 03:27:59,100
for moving this forward. So, I

5910
03:27:57,166 --> 03:28:00,666
just wanted to share that before

5911
03:27:59,200 --> 03:28:06,500
we move into further discussion

5912
03:28:00,766 --> 03:28:07,133
and vote, but yeah. That's all.

5913
03:28:06,700 --> 03:28:09,566
» Council member vetaw.

5914
03:28:08,333 --> 03:28:11,600
» Thank you, president payne.

5915
03:28:09,666 --> 03:28:13,366
so, I am aware that there were

5916
03:28:11,700 --> 03:28:15,500
some north minneapolis residents

5917
03:28:13,466 --> 03:28:17,200
who came here, along certainly

5918
03:28:15,600 --> 03:28:23,933
people from other parts of the

5919
03:28:17,300 --> 03:28:24,666
city to speak against this. I

5920
03:28:24,033 --> 03:28:26,033
want to be clear here that there

5921
03:28:24,766 --> 03:28:27,066
are residents, there are

5922
03:28:26,133 --> 03:28:28,800
business owners, there are

5923
03:28:27,166 --> 03:28:30,600
business owners of north

5924
03:28:28,900 --> 03:28:32,500
minneapolis who are certainly

5925
03:28:30,700 --> 03:28:35,733
okay with this pilot project. We

5926
03:28:32,600 --> 03:28:38,700
would not be moving forward had

5927
03:28:36,500 --> 03:28:39,766
we known that the north side was

5928
03:28:38,800 --> 03:28:42,300
completely against this.

5929
03:28:39,866 --> 03:28:45,900
actually, this has been a long

5930
03:28:42,400 --> 03:28:48,333
time coming and this could have

5931
03:28:46,000 --> 03:28:49,866
been launched in several police

5932
03:28:48,433 --> 03:28:51,266
precincts. The north side

5933
03:28:49,966 --> 03:28:52,166
council member just decided that

5934
03:28:51,366 --> 03:28:56,133
we would be the ones brave

5935
03:28:52,266 --> 03:28:57,433
enough to bring this forward

5936
03:28:56,233 --> 03:28:59,700
because we knew this is what was

5937
03:28:57,533 --> 03:29:03,166
going to happen. So, I am doing

5938
03:28:59,800 --> 03:29:04,833
this on behalf of my

5939
03:29:03,266 --> 03:29:06,266
constituents. Cleagues, I

5940
03:29:04,933 --> 03:29:07,533
listened carefully to your

5941
03:29:06,366 --> 03:29:10,866
concerns and reasons and many of

5942
03:29:07,633 --> 03:29:12,366
you are going to vote no. I keep

5943
03:29:10,966 --> 03:29:14,200
coming back to the same

5944
03:29:12,466 --> 03:29:15,533
question, how am I going to

5945
03:29:14,300 --> 03:29:18,366
explain this decision to the

5946
03:29:15,633 --> 03:29:19,766
people I represent? How am I

5947
03:29:18,466 --> 03:29:21,633
explain to the residents that

5948
03:29:19,866 --> 03:29:23,566
call my office every day, often

5949
03:29:21,733 --> 03:29:25,766
multiple times with concerns

5950
03:29:23,666 --> 03:29:28,700
that this program could help

5951
03:29:25,866 --> 03:29:31,666
address, that we are choosing to

5952
03:29:28,800 --> 03:29:33,566
not even give a chance, that my

5953
03:29:31,766 --> 03:29:34,766
colleagues are focused on events

5954
03:29:33,666 --> 03:29:35,700
halfway around the world and not

5955
03:29:34,866 --> 03:29:40,933
the needs of every day people

5956
03:29:35,833 --> 03:29:41,166
he in minneapolis who elected

5957
03:29:41,033 --> 03:29:43,633
u

5958
03:29:41,266 --> 03:29:45,233
us, who elect us to serve. I

5959
03:29:43,733 --> 03:29:47,966
cannot in good conscious give

5960
03:29:45,333 --> 03:29:53,566
them the answer we once again

5961
03:29:48,066 --> 03:29:54,566
said no. The objection to

5962
03:29:53,666 --> 03:29:56,233
another country, around the

5963
03:29:54,666 --> 03:29:57,833
world, or halfway across the

5964
03:29:56,333 --> 03:29:59,233
world, neither changes the

5965
03:29:57,933 --> 03:30:00,566
question before us. The question

5966
03:29:59,333 --> 03:30:02,800
before us is how minneapolis

5967
03:30:00,666 --> 03:30:04,233
will use this technology under

5968
03:30:02,900 --> 03:30:06,866
minnesota state law and

5969
03:30:04,333 --> 03:30:08,833
minneapolis policies with

5970
03:30:06,966 --> 03:30:11,200
minneapolis retaining the data,

5971
03:30:08,933 --> 03:30:13,466
public transparency, and council

5972
03:30:11,300 --> 03:30:20,066
oversight. That is the decision

5973
03:30:13,566 --> 03:30:21,966
we're making today. I want to be

5974
03:30:20,166 --> 03:30:24,366
able to tell the grandmother

5975
03:30:22,066 --> 03:30:26,333
that wasarjacked taking her

5976
03:30:24,466 --> 03:30:28,000
kids to school in the morning

5977
03:30:26,433 --> 03:30:30,533
that we care about her. I want

5978
03:30:28,233 --> 03:30:32,733
to tell the father whose

5979
03:30:30,633 --> 03:30:34,433
autistic child who keeps leaving

5980
03:30:32,833 --> 03:30:36,133
the house to go to hisavorite

5981
03:30:34,533 --> 03:30:38,100
park in the northeast that our

5982
03:30:36,266 --> 03:30:41,633
lleagues care about them. I

5983
03:30:38,200 --> 03:30:43,866
want to tell the people that

5984
03:30:41,733 --> 03:30:45,633
hear gunshots every day, and

5985
03:30:43,966 --> 03:30:47,133
have bulleted holes in tha

5986
03:30:45,733 --> 03:30:47,966
homes and cars that my

5987
03:30:47,233 --> 03:30:49,666
collgues care about them. I

5988
03:30:48,066 --> 03:30:51,766
want to tell the blind couple

5989
03:30:49,766 --> 03:30:52,433
who lives in the mckinley

5990
03:30:51,866 --> 03:30:54,133
neighborhood, who are

5991
03:30:52,533 --> 03:30:56,600
experiencing a medical emergency

5992
03:30:54,233 --> 03:30:58,033
that my colleagues care about

5993
03:30:56,700 --> 03:31:02,166
them. I want to tell the

5994
03:30:58,133 --> 03:31:04,200
business owners who are spending

5995
03:31:02,266 --> 03:31:07,533
$5,000 to $25,000 every month to

5996
03:31:04,300 --> 03:31:09,633
keep removing illegal dumping

5997
03:31:07,633 --> 03:31:11,300
and garbage from their parking

5998
03:31:09,733 --> 03:31:14,233
lot while already struggling to

5999
03:31:11,400 --> 03:31:15,266
keep their doors open that my

6000
03:31:14,333 --> 03:31:18,333
colleagues care about them. I

6001
03:31:15,366 --> 03:31:19,133
want to tell the people in

6002
03:31:18,433 --> 03:31:21,200
victory that call 9-1-1 because

6003
03:31:19,233 --> 03:31:22,800
they see a suspicious person in

6004
03:31:21,300 --> 03:31:25,400
the neighborhood, possibly with

6005
03:31:23,033 --> 03:31:28,366
a weapon that my colleagues care

6006
03:31:25,500 --> 03:31:29,500
about them. I want to tell the

6007
03:31:28,466 --> 03:31:31,000
family in shingle creek who are

6008
03:31:29,600 --> 03:31:32,466
watching their car get stolen

6009
03:31:31,100 --> 03:31:36,766
while they're sitting at the

6010
03:31:32,566 --> 03:31:38,033
darren -- dinner table that my

6011
03:31:36,866 --> 03:31:39,333
colleagues care about them. I

6012
03:31:38,133 --> 03:31:41,300
want to tell the woman that

6013
03:31:39,433 --> 03:31:43,666
moved from the cleveland

6014
03:31:41,400 --> 03:31:45,933
neighborhood from ecuador who

6015
03:31:43,766 --> 03:31:49,033
was robbed at gunpoint while

6016
03:31:46,033 --> 03:31:50,233
waiting at the bus stop that my

6017
03:31:49,133 --> 03:31:52,000
colleagues care about her. What

6018
03:31:50,466 --> 03:31:53,466
I am asking you colleagues is

6019
03:31:52,100 --> 03:31:55,000
simple, give this a chance. I'm

6020
03:31:53,566 --> 03:31:57,900
asking you to acknowledge the

6021
03:31:55,100 --> 03:31:59,066
challenges my community faces to

6022
03:31:58,000 --> 03:32:00,466
recognize the voices of

6023
03:31:59,166 --> 03:32:03,500
residents I represent and to

6024
03:32:00,566 --> 03:32:07,733
give them the opportunity to see

6025
03:32:04,433 --> 03:32:09,200
if this solution can make a

6026
03:32:07,833 --> 03:32:11,566
difference. At its core, this is

6027
03:32:09,333 --> 03:32:13,033
a request to try, to put our

6028
03:32:11,666 --> 03:32:14,500
residents first, test whether

6029
03:32:13,133 --> 03:32:16,533
it's possible and let the

6030
03:32:14,600 --> 03:32:17,833
results guide us. I am not in no

6031
03:32:16,633 --> 03:32:20,200
way asking you to make a

6032
03:32:17,933 --> 03:32:20,933
decision on this, a final

6033
03:32:20,300 --> 03:32:23,400
decision. I'm asking for a

6034
03:32:21,033 --> 03:32:25,266
chance to try. I am asking for

6035
03:32:23,500 --> 03:32:27,666
you to take all the work that

6036
03:32:25,366 --> 03:32:29,933
we've done for 2.5 years, all

6037
03:32:27,766 --> 03:32:36,133
the calls that we gotten, that

6038
03:32:30,033 --> 03:32:37,500
we know could have been

6039
03:32:36,233 --> 03:32:39,500
answered, all the people that

6040
03:32:37,600 --> 03:32:40,633
wished someone could have showed

6041
03:32:39,600 --> 03:32:44,866
up or something would happen

6042
03:32:40,733 --> 03:32:46,433
when they were at their worst.

6043
03:32:44,966 --> 03:32:47,266
colleagues, I'm asking for your

6044
03:32:46,533 --> 03:32:47,800
support.

6045
03:32:47,366 --> 03:32:50,466
» Vice president osman.

6046
03:32:47,900 --> 03:33:01,566
» I want to thank you guys for

6047
03:32:50,566 --> 03:33:04,533
being patient and listening to

6048
03:33:01,666 --> 03:33:06,233
us. I support technology that

6049
03:33:04,633 --> 03:33:08,100
will help community safety,

6050
03:33:06,333 --> 03:33:10,266
including drones. I would say go

6051
03:33:08,200 --> 03:33:14,433
back to your leadership and come

6052
03:33:10,366 --> 03:33:23,666
up with better plan other than

6053
03:33:14,533 --> 03:33:27,066
skydio. It's as simple as that

6054
03:33:23,766 --> 03:33:28,633
for me. It's effected by my

6055
03:33:27,166 --> 03:33:31,000
community here, so I really want

6056
03:33:28,733 --> 03:33:32,366
to take the time and say I spoke

6057
03:33:31,100 --> 03:33:35,600
to the mpd leadership to express

6058
03:33:32,500 --> 03:33:37,766
my stand. I do support public

6059
03:33:35,700 --> 03:33:39,266
safety. I support council

6060
03:33:37,866 --> 03:33:40,833
members who really want to do

6061
03:33:39,366 --> 03:33:44,166
something for their

6062
03:33:40,933 --> 03:33:46,100
neighborhoods. I just can't do

6063
03:33:44,266 --> 03:33:47,833
this -- we can't -- we just

6064
03:33:46,200 --> 03:33:49,533
can't do this based on the

6065
03:33:47,933 --> 03:33:51,533
safety side of it. I think there

6066
03:33:49,633 --> 03:33:54,400
are so many other ways that we

6067
03:33:51,633 --> 03:33:58,000
can secure the safety of our

6068
03:33:54,500 --> 03:33:59,733
residents and dealing with

6069
03:33:58,100 --> 03:34:03,433
companies that have, you know, a

6070
03:33:59,833 --> 03:34:05,166
lot of ethical questions is

6071
03:34:03,533 --> 03:34:06,666
there. There was an interview, a

6072
03:34:05,266 --> 03:34:09,500
quote, you can do a little

6073
03:34:06,766 --> 03:34:12,133
research. That's how I studied

6074
03:34:09,600 --> 03:34:16,800
it. There is a quote from the

6075
03:34:12,233 --> 03:34:21,400
ceo that said something about

6076
03:34:16,900 --> 03:34:27,333
the limit of ethics of

6077
03:34:21,500 --> 03:34:29,066
surveillance, he refused to

6078
03:34:27,433 --> 03:34:29,966
limit ethical surveillance and

6079
03:34:29,166 --> 03:34:33,500
companies like that should not

6080
03:34:31,833 --> 03:34:35,200
be dealing with the city of

6081
03:34:33,600 --> 03:34:39,500
minneapolis. Again, please come

6082
03:34:35,300 --> 03:34:41,966
back. I'm happy to support

6083
03:34:39,600 --> 03:34:45,100
technology that can support but

6084
03:34:42,066 --> 03:34:48,666
not this way. Thank you again.

6085
03:34:46,866 --> 03:34:51,000
» Council member stevenson.

6086
03:34:49,700 --> 03:34:53,433
» Thank you, mr. President. I

6087
03:34:51,100 --> 03:34:57,300
wanted to clarify that as I am

6088
03:34:53,533 --> 03:34:58,800
making my decision, I am not

6089
03:34:57,400 --> 03:35:00,566
lost halfway around the world.

6090
03:34:58,900 --> 03:35:02,433
I'm in the central neighborhood

6091
03:35:00,700 --> 03:35:04,800
whe dads were dragged out of

6092
03:35:02,533 --> 03:35:09,650
the housend dragged into I

6093
03:35:04,900 --> 03:35:10,900
detention facilities. In that

6094
03:35:09,766 --> 03:35:13,400
neighborhood where green

6095
03:35:11,000 --> 03:35:15,966
central, students were forced to

6096
03:35:13,500 --> 03:35:18,500
stay home and they lived under

6097
03:35:16,066 --> 03:35:21,266
toxic fear for months. In my

6098
03:35:18,600 --> 03:35:23,566
neighborhood, and in the central

6099
03:35:21,366 --> 03:35:25,166
neighborhood, where renee good

6100
03:35:23,666 --> 03:35:27,333
was murdered by our government,

6101
03:35:25,266 --> 03:35:29,566
and where my constituent alex

6102
03:35:27,433 --> 03:35:32,666
pretti was executed for loving

6103
03:35:29,666 --> 03:35:34,600
his neighbor. So when I make my

6104
03:35:32,766 --> 03:35:37,583
decision, I am rooted deeply in

6105
03:35:35,733 --> 03:35:39,833
my community, with my ward, and

6106
03:35:39,266 --> 03:35:43,133
my constituents.

6107
03:35:40,100 --> 03:35:44,166
» Seeing no one else in queue,

6108
03:35:43,233 --> 03:35:46,833
I don't believe there is a

6109
03:35:44,266 --> 03:35:48,333
motion on the table. Is there a

6110
03:35:46,933 --> 03:35:52,800
motion for this item?

6111
03:35:48,500 --> 03:35:56,066
» So moved.

6112
03:35:54,133 --> 03:35:58,266
» I'll second.

6113
03:35:56,166 --> 03:35:59,433
» The clerk -- what are you

6114
03:35:58,366 --> 03:36:01,566
moving? Toapprove?

6115
03:35:59,533 --> 03:36:04,833
» To approve, yes.

6116
03:36:02,383 --> 03:36:06,633
» Seconded. The clerk will call

6117
03:36:04,933 --> 03:36:07,866
the roll.

6118
03:36:06,766 --> 03:36:08,266
» Council member chavez.

6119
03:36:07,966 --> 03:36:09,666
» No.

6120
03:36:08,366 --> 03:36:10,533
» Council member warren.

6121
03:36:09,766 --> 03:36:11,766
» Aye.

6122
03:36:10,933 --> 03:36:12,266
» Council member shaffer.

6123
03:36:11,866 --> 03:36:12,833
» Aye.

6124
03:36:12,366 --> 03:36:13,266
» Council member wonsley.

6125
03:36:12,933 --> 03:36:14,033
» Nay.

6126
03:36:13,366 --> 03:36:14,600
» Council member whiting.

6127
03:36:14,133 --> 03:36:15,900
» Aye.

6128
03:36:14,700 --> 03:36:16,433
» Council member chowdhury.

6129
03:36:16,000 --> 03:36:17,666
» No.

6130
03:36:16,533 --> 03:36:18,566
» Council member stevenson.

6131
03:36:17,766 --> 03:36:19,633
» No.

6132
03:36:18,666 --> 03:36:20,133
» Council member rainville.

6133
03:36:19,733 --> 03:36:21,166
» Aye.

6134
03:36:20,233 --> 03:36:21,600
» Council member vetaw.

6135
03:36:21,266 --> 03:36:22,900
» Aye.

6136
03:36:21,766 --> 03:36:23,166
» Council member palmisano.

6137
03:36:23,000 --> 03:36:25,333
» Aye.

6138
03:36:24,600 --> 03:36:25,800
» Vice president osman.

6139
03:36:25,600 --> 03:36:27,233
» No.

6140
03:36:26,700 --> 03:36:27,733
» President payn

6141
03:36:27,333 --> 03:36:30,966
» Nay.

6142
03:36:28,333 --> 03:36:34,566
» There are 6 ayes and 6 nays.

6143
03:36:31,066 --> 03:36:46,933
» That motion fas.

6144
03:36:34,666 --> 03:36:47,233
[appl

6145
03:36:47,033 --> 03:36:50,966
[applause].

6146
03:36:47,333 --> 03:36:51,233
[gav

6147
03:36:51,066 --> 03:36:52,266
[gavel].

6148
03:36:51,333 --> 03:36:59,000
» Please, we need to continue

6149
03:36:52,366 --> 03:37:02,566
our business. Mr. Clerk,

6150
03:36:59,100 --> 03:37:02,766
guidance. Is it done? We're

6151
03:37:02,666 --> 03:37:04,233
done?

6152
03:37:02,866 --> 03:37:06,300
» Mr. President, it would be an

6153
03:37:04,333 --> 03:37:08,800
orde for a motion to delete

6154
03:37:06,400 --> 03:37:10,766
from the agenda if the council

6155
03:37:08,900 --> 03:37:11,133
wishes to remove this from

6156
03:37:10,866 --> 03:37:15,100
consideration.

6157
03:37:11,233 --> 03:37:15,266
» So moved. We want to delete

6158
03:37:15,200 --> 03:37:16,633
it.

6159
03:37:15,366 --> 03:37:16,933
» Is it seconded?

6160
03:37:16,733 --> 03:37:22,133
» Second.

6161
03:37:17,133 --> 03:37:23,200
» The clerk will call the roll.

6162
03:37:22,216 --> 03:37:23,733
» Council membechavez.

6163
03:37:23,300 --> 03:37:24,900
» Aye.

6164
03:37:23,833 --> 03:37:25,466
» Council member warren.

6165
03:37:25,000 --> 03:37:26,266
» No.

6166
03:37:25,566 --> 03:37:27,933
» Council member shaffer.

6167
03:37:26,366 --> 03:37:28,500
» No.

6168
03:37:28,033 --> 03:37:29,833
» Council member wonsley.

6169
03:37:28,600 --> 03:37:30,400
» Aye.

6170
03:37:29,933 --> 03:37:32,800
» Council member whiting.

6171
03:37:30,800 --> 03:37:35,100
» Just a quick question clerk,

6172
03:37:32,900 --> 03:37:36,533
I'm confused by the process

6173
03:37:35,200 --> 03:37:39,066
here. Because it stays because

6174
03:37:36,633 --> 03:37:43,800
we don't have a dispositive

6175
03:37:39,166 --> 03:37:46,100
action? I see. Okay. Nay.

6176
03:37:45,166 --> 03:37:48,800
» Council member chowdhury.

6177
03:37:47,133 --> 03:37:49,633
» Aye.

6178
03:37:48,900 --> 03:37:50,333
» Council member stevenson.

6179
03:37:49,733 --> 03:37:51,733
» Aye.

6180
03:37:50,433 --> 03:37:52,800
» Council member rainville.

6181
03:37:51,833 --> 03:37:54,033
» No.

6182
03:37:52,900 --> 03:37:54,600
» Council member vetaw.

6183
03:37:54,133 --> 03:37:56,066
» No.

6184
03:37:54,700 --> 03:37:56,300
» Council member palmisano.

6185
03:37:56,166 --> 03:37:58,566
» No.

6186
03:37:57,333 --> 03:37:59,133
» Vice president osman.

6187
03:37:58,666 --> 03:37:59,600
» Aye.

6188
03:37:59,233 --> 03:38:00,000
» President payne.

6189
03:37:59,700 --> 03:38:03,533
» Aye.

6190
03:38:00,200 --> 03:38:05,233
» There are 6 ayes and 6 nays.

6191
03:38:03,633 --> 03:38:08,000
» That motion fails. I don't

6192
03:38:05,333 --> 03:38:10,466
think we're going to --

6193
03:38:08,100 --> 03:38:12,266
» We have an impasse here.

6194
03:38:11,600 --> 03:38:13,466
» So council member chavez.

6195
03:38:12,366 --> 03:38:15,033
» Council president payne, I

6196
03:38:13,566 --> 03:38:18,800
have a question. There was a

6197
03:38:15,133 --> 03:38:19,600
legislative directive or motion

6198
03:38:18,900 --> 03:38:21,233
that council member wonsley

6199
03:38:19,700 --> 03:38:24,066
brought before where the vote

6200
03:38:21,333 --> 03:38:25,533
was 6-6 abstain and that was

6201
03:38:24,166 --> 03:38:26,733
about asking, related to the

6202
03:38:25,633 --> 03:38:29,966
commissioner of public safety.

6203
03:38:26,833 --> 03:38:31,600
there was no dispositive motion,

6204
03:38:30,066 --> 03:38:33,633
that item was never brought

6205
03:38:31,700 --> 03:38:35,833
forward at the following council

6206
03:38:33,733 --> 03:38:37,566
meeting, so what makes that

6207
03:38:35,933 --> 03:38:38,866
different from this if this

6208
03:38:37,666 --> 03:38:40,800
already failed and why not a

6209
03:38:38,966 --> 03:38:43,533
previous item brought to our

6210
03:38:40,900 --> 03:38:45,533
agenda as a 6-6 vote? What's the

6211
03:38:43,633 --> 03:38:46,900
difference here?

6212
03:38:45,633 --> 03:38:49,200
» Mr. President, I am not sure

6213
03:38:47,000 --> 03:38:50,266
I understand the context. The

6214
03:38:49,300 --> 03:38:52,300
contract hasn't been approved,

6215
03:38:50,500 --> 03:38:53,800
it wasn't approved, it wldn't

6216
03:38:52,400 --> 03:38:55,266
deleted from your agenda. The

6217
03:38:53,900 --> 03:38:56,333
staff could bring a different

6218
03:38:55,366 --> 03:38:59,033
proposal forward on the same

6219
03:38:56,433 --> 03:39:02,566
matter of a contract for use of

6220
03:38:59,133 --> 03:39:05,066
drones, clearly. They could do

6221
03:39:02,666 --> 03:39:06,533
from the agenda as I tried to

6222
03:39:05,166 --> 03:39:09,100
explain it before is closing out

6223
03:39:06,633 --> 03:39:11,066
the file and limbs, procedurally

6224
03:39:09,200 --> 03:39:13,233
taking it off the anda and

6225
03:39:11,200 --> 03:39:15,866
moving that. That simply

6226
03:39:13,333 --> 03:39:18,400
closes the file on the issue.

6227
03:39:15,966 --> 03:39:19,300
the staff can bring a new

6228
03:39:18,500 --> 03:39:21,166
proposal with a different

6229
03:39:19,400 --> 03:39:22,300
company for the use of drones

6230
03:39:21,266 --> 03:39:23,900
for the same purpose.

6231
03:39:22,400 --> 03:39:25,633
» If there is no action by

6232
03:39:24,000 --> 03:39:27,600
council today, then it's off the

6233
03:39:25,733 --> 03:39:30,033
agenda anyway, correct?

6234
03:39:27,700 --> 03:39:32,800
» This particular item will not

6235
03:39:30,133 --> 03:39:35,166
come back. The motion to delete

6236
03:39:32,900 --> 03:39:37,000
from the agenda is to say with

6237
03:39:35,300 --> 03:39:37,633
denitive assuredness that the

6238
03:39:37,100 --> 03:39:40,833
item is done.

6239
03:39:39,000 --> 03:39:42,566
» The 6-6 vote makes it so this

6240
03:39:40,933 --> 03:39:43,900
item is not before us unless

6241
03:39:42,666 --> 03:39:47,566
staff resubmits.

6242
03:39:44,000 --> 03:39:50,033
» The failure to pass this item

6243
03:39:47,666 --> 03:39:52,466
means that the particular item

6244
03:39:50,166 --> 03:39:54,466
as it was brought forward with

6245
03:39:52,566 --> 03:39:54,666
that particular proposal is

6246
03:39:54,566 --> 03:39:58,233
dead.

6247
03:39:54,766 --> 03:39:59,766
» Okay, thank you.

6248
03:39:58,333 --> 03:40:02,033
» That completes the reports of

6249
03:39:59,866 --> 03:40:04,300
our standingcommittees. I did

6250
03:40:02,133 --> 03:40:06,766
get a request for a lunch. We

6251
03:40:04,433 --> 03:40:09,400
cod power through. I want to

6252
03:40:06,866 --> 03:40:11,366
get a sense from the body.

6253
03:40:09,666 --> 03:40:14,466
» Let's go. Let's keep going.

6254
03:40:11,466 --> 03:40:18,133
» Let's be efficient. The next

6255
03:40:14,566 --> 03:40:18,900
order of business, we have four

6256
03:40:18,233 --> 03:40:19,700
notices today. First council

6257
03:40:19,000 --> 03:40:20,400
member chavez, council member

6258
03:40:19,800 --> 03:40:21,800
wonsley, council member warren,

6259
03:40:20,500 --> 03:40:23,200
and I give notice of intent to

6260
03:40:21,900 --> 03:40:25,433
introduce at the next regular

6261
03:40:23,300 --> 03:40:27,366
meeting the subject matter of an

6262
03:40:25,533 --> 03:40:31,600
ordinance amending the liquor

6263
03:40:27,466 --> 03:40:35,266
and beer code, requiring any

6264
03:40:31,700 --> 03:40:39,333
license premises. For the second

6265
03:40:35,366 --> 03:40:39,966
idea, shaft gives five ordinance

6266
03:40:39,433 --> 03:40:41,333
introductions in five separate

6267
03:40:40,066 --> 03:40:43,300
titles of the code related to

6268
03:40:41,433 --> 03:40:48,800
noise regulations, to remove

6269
03:40:43,400 --> 03:40:50,166
relevant content, clarify

6270
03:40:48,900 --> 03:40:52,033
language, regulating the sound

6271
03:40:50,266 --> 03:40:54,133
of motion sensor devices on

6272
03:40:52,133 --> 03:40:56,800
private property, and correcting

6273
03:40:54,233 --> 03:40:57,533
associated reference numbers.

6274
03:40:56,900 --> 03:40:58,266
third, council member shaffer

6275
03:40:57,633 --> 03:40:58,966
and council member rainville

6276
03:40:58,366 --> 03:41:00,366
give notice of intent to

6277
03:40:59,066 --> 03:41:02,266
introduce at the next regular

6278
03:41:00,466 --> 03:41:04,100
meeting the subject matter of an

6279
03:41:02,366 --> 03:41:05,266
ordinance amendmenteding the

6280
03:41:04,200 --> 03:41:07,900
license and business regulation

6281
03:41:05,366 --> 03:41:09,700
code amending repealing, and

6282
03:41:08,000 --> 03:41:13,266
adding provisions related to

6283
03:41:09,800 --> 03:41:14,533
rental halls and places of

6284
03:41:13,366 --> 03:41:15,533
entertainment, allowing for the

6285
03:41:14,633 --> 03:41:18,366
hosting of both public and

6286
03:41:15,633 --> 03:41:19,400
private events. Finally council

6287
03:41:18,466 --> 03:41:20,400
member wonsley, council member

6288
03:41:19,500 --> 03:41:21,266
chavez, council member whiting,

6289
03:41:20,500 --> 03:41:22,366
and council member chowdhury

6290
03:41:21,366 --> 03:41:23,800
give notice of intent to

6291
03:41:22,466 --> 03:41:25,733
introduce at the next regular

6292
03:41:23,900 --> 03:41:27,566
meeting the subject matter of an

6293
03:41:25,833 --> 03:41:30,566
ordinance amending the animal

6294
03:41:27,666 --> 03:41:31,866
care and control code, moving

6295
03:41:30,666 --> 03:41:34,733
restrictions on pet ownerships

6296
03:41:31,966 --> 03:41:37,300
due to prior convictions on

6297
03:41:34,833 --> 03:41:39,533
certain felonies. No further

6298
03:41:37,400 --> 03:41:40,066
action is required at this time.

6299
03:41:39,633 --> 03:41:43,666
council member stevenson.

6300
03:41:40,166 --> 03:41:45,833
» I just wanted to ask if I

6301
03:41:43,766 --> 03:41:46,133
could be an author for the noise

6302
03:41:45,933 --> 03:41:47,733
ordinance.

6303
03:41:46,233 --> 03:41:48,800
» Yes, if the clerks could note

6304
03:41:47,833 --> 03:41:50,833
that. The next order of business

6305
03:41:49,166 --> 03:41:53,033
is t introduction and referral

6306
03:41:50,933 --> 03:41:54,033
calendar. We have one item

6307
03:41:53,133 --> 03:41:54,866
today. Council member osman and

6308
03:41:54,133 --> 03:41:56,033
council member wonsley move to

6309
03:41:54,966 --> 03:41:57,633
introduce the subject matter of

6310
03:41:56,433 --> 03:41:59,133
an ordinance amending the

6311
03:41:57,733 --> 03:42:01,300
license and business regulations

6312
03:41:59,233 --> 03:42:02,066
code for the first reading and

6313
03:42:01,400 --> 03:42:04,800
referral for the business

6314
03:42:02,166 --> 03:42:07,133
housing and zoning committee,

6315
03:42:04,900 --> 03:42:08,666
adding a chapter 270, licensing

6316
03:42:07,233 --> 03:42:10,633
requirents, relating to bail,

6317
03:42:08,766 --> 03:42:13,800
fugitive recovery, referred to

6318
03:42:10,733 --> 03:42:15,333
as bounty hunters. May I have a

6319
03:42:13,900 --> 03:42:15,666
motion to approve this

6320
03:42:15,433 --> 03:42:16,200
introduction.

6321
03:42:15,900 --> 03:42:16,566
» Moved.

6322
03:42:16,300 --> 03:42:18,633
» Second.

6323
03:42:16,666 --> 03:42:19,966
» The clerk will call the roll

6324
03:42:18,716 --> 03:42:29,466
» Council member chowdhury.

6325
03:42:20,266 --> 03:42:34,133
» I would like to be added to

6326
03:42:29,566 --> 03:42:37,466
the queue, not the queue, as an

6327
03:42:34,233 --> 03:42:39,166
author. It's been a long

6328
03:42:37,566 --> 03:42:41,066
meeting. We do need lunch.

6329
03:42:39,266 --> 03:42:45,800
» The clerks have noted that.

6330
03:42:41,166 --> 03:42:46,733
will the please cl the roll.

6331
03:42:45,900 --> 03:42:48,066
» Council member chowdhury.

6332
03:42:46,833 --> 03:42:48,666
» Aye.

6333
03:42:48,166 --> 03:42:48,933
» Council member stevenson.

6334
03:42:48,766 --> 03:42:50,066
» Aye.

6335
03:42:49,466 --> 03:42:50,466
» Council member rainville.

6336
03:42:50,166 --> 03:42:51,000
» Aye.

6337
03:42:50,566 --> 03:42:58,166
» Council member vetaw.

6338
03:42:54,700 --> 03:42:58,800
» Is absent. Council member

6339
03:42:58,266 --> 03:42:59,100
palmi

6340
03:42:58,900 --> 03:43:01,200
palmisano.

6341
03:42:59,200 --> 03:43:03,366
» There are 11 ayes.

6342
03:43:01,300 --> 03:43:04,433
» That motion carries. The next

6343
03:43:03,466 --> 03:43:06,300
order of business is

6344
03:43:04,533 --> 03:43:07,966
resolutions. We have two

6345
03:43:06,400 --> 03:43:09,600
resolutions on our agenda, one

6346
03:43:08,066 --> 03:43:13,300
of which received a presentation

6347
03:43:09,700 --> 03:43:14,800
at the beginning of our meeting.

6348
03:43:13,400 --> 03:43:15,900
may I have a motion to adopt

6349
03:43:14,900 --> 03:43:16,366
these resoluons.

6350
03:43:16,100 --> 03:43:16,766
» Moved.

6351
03:43:16,466 --> 03:43:18,866
» Second.

6352
03:43:16,866 --> 03:43:19,733
» The clerk will call the roll

6353
03:43:18,966 --> 03:43:20,433
» Council member chavez.

6354
03:43:19,816 --> 03:43:20,966
» Aye.

6355
03:43:20,533 --> 03:43:21,433
» Council member warren.

6356
03:43:21,133 --> 03:43:22,200
» Aye.

6357
03:43:21,533 --> 03:43:22,633
» Council member shaffer.

6358
03:43:22,300 --> 03:43:23,433
» Aye.

6359
03:43:22,733 --> 03:43:23,833
» Council member wonsley.

6360
03:43:23,700 --> 03:43:24,800
» Aye.

6361
03:43:23,933 --> 03:43:25,700
» Council member whiting.

6362
03:43:24,900 --> 03:43:26,933
» Aye.

6363
03:43:25,800 --> 03:43:27,383
» Council member chowdhury.

6364
03:43:27,033 --> 03:43:29,666
» Aye.

6365
03:43:27,500 --> 03:43:29,900
» Council member stevenson.

6366
03:43:29,766 --> 03:43:30,500
» Aye.

6367
03:43:30,000 --> 03:43:30,766
» Council member rainville.

6368
03:43:30,600 --> 03:43:31,533
» Aye.

6369
03:43:30,900 --> 03:43:32,100
council member vetaw.

6370
03:43:31,633 --> 03:43:33,133
» Aye.

6371
03:43:32,233 --> 03:43:33,400
» Council member palmisano.

6372
03:43:33,233 --> 03:43:34,500
» Aye.

6373
03:43:33,800 --> 03:43:34,933
» Vice president osman.

6374
03:43:34,600 --> 03:43:36,800
» Aye.

6375
03:43:35,433 --> 03:43:37,566
» President payne.

6376
03:43:36,900 --> 03:43:38,366
» Aye.

6377
03:43:37,666 --> 03:43:39,966
» There are 12 ayes.

6378
03:43:38,466 --> 03:43:42,366
» That carries and that

6379
03:43:40,066 --> 03:43:44,500
resolution is adopted.ur next

6380
03:43:42,466 --> 03:43:44,866
order of businesss unfinished

6381
03:43:44,600 --> 03:43:46,333
business.

6382
03:43:44,966 --> 03:43:47,566
» Do we want to ask council

6383
03:43:46,433 --> 03:43:50,600
member vetaw if she wants to be

6384
03:43:47,666 --> 03:43:50,866
recorded on the introduction

6385
03:43:50,700 --> 03:43:51,333
calendar?

6386
03:43:51,200 --> 03:43:52,833
» Yes.

6387
03:43:51,433 --> 03:43:53,966
» As an aye.

6388
03:43:52,933 --> 03:43:54,666
» Aye, please.

6389
03:43:54,066 --> 03:43:56,333
» Thank you.

6390
03:43:54,766 --> 03:43:58,166
» Our next order of business is

6391
03:43:56,433 --> 03:44:00,666
unfinished business. We have two

6392
03:43:58,266 --> 03:44:07,833
items today. The first is

6393
03:44:00,766 --> 03:44:08,800
considering the appeal about the

6394
03:44:07,933 --> 03:44:10,200
heritage preservation commission

6395
03:44:09,200 --> 03:44:12,200
to demolish the property known

6396
03:44:10,300 --> 03:44:14,366
as the tyler street northeast

6397
03:44:12,300 --> 03:44:15,900
john cookhouse. An individual

6398
03:44:14,466 --> 03:44:17,366
historic landmark. This was

6399
03:44:16,000 --> 03:44:19,700
postponed at our may 21st

6400
03:44:17,466 --> 03:44:21,633
meeting to allow for a sale of

6401
03:44:19,800 --> 03:44:22,766
the property. The sale is going

6402
03:44:21,733 --> 03:44:24,166
through its final stages so

6403
03:44:22,866 --> 03:44:25,366
after conversations with staff

6404
03:44:24,266 --> 03:44:27,600
and the attorney's office, I

6405
03:44:25,466 --> 03:44:28,866
will move to postpone this item

6406
03:44:27,700 --> 03:44:31,533
two more cycles to our

6407
03:44:28,966 --> 03:44:32,133
august 13th meeting. May I have

6408
03:44:31,666 --> 03:44:32,433
a second.

6409
03:44:32,233 --> 03:44:34,400
» Second.

6410
03:44:32,533 --> 03:44:35,433
» The clerk will call the roll.

6411
03:44:34,500 --> 03:44:35,900
» Council member chavez.

6412
03:44:35,533 --> 03:44:36,700
» Aye.

6413
03:44:36,000 --> 03:44:37,233
» Council member warren.

6414
03:44:36,800 --> 03:44:38,033
» Aye.

6415
03:44:37,333 --> 03:44:39,666
» Council member shaffer.

6416
03:44:38,133 --> 03:44:40,233
» Aye.

6417
03:44:39,766 --> 03:44:40,533
» Council member wonsley.

6418
03:44:40,316 --> 03:44:41,533
» Aye.

6419
03:44:40,633 --> 03:44:41,866
» Council member whiting.

6420
03:44:41,633 --> 03:44:43,233
» Aye.

6421
03:44:41,966 --> 03:44:43,633
» Council member chowdhury.

6422
03:44:43,333 --> 03:44:44,966
» Aye.

6423
03:44:43,733 --> 03:44:45,366
» Council member stevenson.

6424
03:44:45,066 --> 03:44:46,266
» Aye.

6425
03:44:45,466 --> 03:44:46,766
» Council member rainville.

6426
03:44:46,366 --> 03:44:47,800
» Aye.

6427
03:44:46,866 --> 03:44:48,233
» Council member vetaw.

6428
03:44:47,900 --> 03:44:49,266
» Aye.

6429
03:44:48,333 --> 03:44:49,566
» Counc member palmisano.

6430
03:44:49,366 --> 03:44:51,200
» Aye.

6431
03:44:50,433 --> 03:44:51,466
» Vice president osman.

6432
03:44:51,300 --> 03:44:52,600
» Aye.

6433
03:44:51,966 --> 03:44:52,933
» President payne.

6434
03:44:52,700 --> 03:44:54,666
» Aye.

6435
03:44:53,066 --> 03:44:57,233
» There are 12 ayes.

6436
03:44:54,766 --> 03:44:59,733
» That carries. That is

6437
03:44:57,333 --> 03:45:00,866
adopted. The next item is the

6438
03:44:59,833 --> 03:45:02,933
automatic reconsideration of the

6439
03:45:00,966 --> 03:45:05,833
mayor's veto of the appointment

6440
03:45:03,200 --> 03:45:07,300
of jim to the minnesota ballpark

6441
03:45:05,933 --> 03:45:09,333
authority. I will ask the clerk

6442
03:45:07,566 --> 03:45:11,300
to explain our next steps.

6443
03:45:09,466 --> 03:45:12,600
» Mr. President, the mayor did

6444
03:45:11,400 --> 03:45:14,566
veto with his objections in

6445
03:45:12,700 --> 03:45:19,200
writing what was council action

6446
03:45:14,666 --> 03:45:22,900
number 2026a450, the appointmen

6447
03:45:19,300 --> 03:45:23,566
authority found in file

6448
03:45:23,000 --> 03:45:27,466
2026-667, as provided in the

6449
03:45:23,666 --> 03:45:29,400
city charter, section 4.4c3 and

6450
03:45:27,566 --> 03:45:31,566
under council rule 7.8 an act

6451
03:45:29,500 --> 03:45:34,600
that is vetoed by the mayor's

6452
03:45:31,700 --> 03:45:36,133
rern for automatic

6453
03:45:34,700 --> 03:45:37,500
reconsideration at the next

6454
03:45:36,233 --> 03:45:39,333
meeting and the act is placed

6455
03:45:37,600 --> 03:45:41,133
before this body in the same

6456
03:45:39,433 --> 03:45:41,800
form as it was originally

6457
03:45:41,233 --> 03:45:43,366
passed. The immediate question

6458
03:45:41,900 --> 03:45:44,366
before the council is as

6459
03:45:43,466 --> 03:45:46,366
followed, shall the decision of

6460
03:45:44,466 --> 03:45:47,666
the city council stand,

6461
03:45:46,466 --> 03:45:49,533
notwithstanding the veto of the

6462
03:45:47,766 --> 03:45:50,733
mayor. If at least two-thirds of

6463
03:45:49,633 --> 03:45:52,600
the council votes in the

6464
03:45:50,833 --> 03:45:57,300
affirmative on that motion, then

6465
03:45:52,700 --> 03:45:58,766
the mayor's veto I overwritten

6466
03:45:57,400 --> 03:46:02,166
and the original act is passed.

6467
03:45:58,866 --> 03:46:03,366
that means an override requires

6468
03:46:02,266 --> 03:46:05,166
9 affirmative votes, otherwise

6469
03:46:03,466 --> 03:46:06,533
the mayor's veto is sustained

6470
03:46:05,266 --> 03:46:08,000
and the prior action is

6471
03:46:06,633 --> 03:46:11,166
defeated. To be clear, all

6472
03:46:08,100 --> 03:46:12,433
council members, a yes vote on

6473
03:46:11,266 --> 03:46:14,233
reconsideration is a vote to

6474
03:46:12,533 --> 03:46:16,333
override the veto and approve

6475
03:46:14,333 --> 03:46:18,066
the original act. A no vote is a

6476
03:46:16,433 --> 03:46:19,133
vote to sustain the mayor's

6477
03:46:18,166 --> 03:46:20,766
veto. With that mr. President, I

6478
03:46:19,433 --> 03:46:22,800
am ready to call the roll on the

6479
03:46:20,866 --> 03:46:24,800
motion to reconsider.

6480
03:46:22,933 --> 03:46:27,533
» So to summarize, an aye vote

6481
03:46:24,900 --> 03:46:31,166
is a vote to override the veto.

6482
03:46:27,633 --> 03:46:31,366
I will ask the clerk to call the

6483
03:46:31,266 --> 03:46:33,000
roll.

6484
03:46:31,466 --> 03:46:33,666
» Council member chavez.

6485
03:46:33,200 --> 03:46:34,800
» Aye.

6486
03:46:33,766 --> 03:46:35,533
» Council member warren.

6487
03:46:34,900 --> 03:46:36,333
» No.

6488
03:46:35,633 --> 03:46:37,033
» Council member shaffer.

6489
03:46:36,433 --> 03:46:38,233
» No.

6490
03:46:37,133 --> 03:46:38,833
» Council member wonsley.

6491
03:46:38,333 --> 03:46:40,133
» Aye.

6492
03:46:38,933 --> 03:46:40,500
» Cncil member whing.

6493
03:46:40,233 --> 03:46:42,066
» No.

6494
03:46:40,700 --> 03:46:42,566
» Council member chowdhury.

6495
03:46:42,166 --> 03:46:44,233
» Aye.

6496
03:46:42,666 --> 03:46:45,166
» Council member evenson.

6497
03:46:44,333 --> 03:46:45,766
» Aye.

6498
03:46:45,266 --> 03:46:46,933
» Council member rainville.

6499
03:46:46,333 --> 03:46:48,166
» No.

6500
03:46:47,033 --> 03:46:48,400
» Council member vetaw.

6501
03:46:48,266 --> 03:46:49,733
» No.

6502
03:46:48,666 --> 03:46:50,200
» Council member palmisano.

6503
03:46:49,833 --> 03:46:52,233
» No.

6504
03:46:51,800 --> 03:46:53,233
» Vice president osman.

6505
03:46:52,866 --> 03:46:55,266
» Aye.

6506
03:46:54,333 --> 03:46:55,966
» President payne.

6507
03:46:55,366 --> 03:46:58,000
» Aye.

6508
03:46:56,066 --> 03:46:59,533
» There are 6 ayes and 6 nays.

6509
03:46:58,100 --> 03:47:01,266
» That motion fails and the

6510
03:46:59,633 --> 03:47:03,300
mayor's veto is sustained. The

6511
03:47:01,366 --> 03:47:05,033
appointment of jim to the

6512
03:47:03,400 --> 03:47:06,666
minnesota ballpark authority

6513
03:47:05,133 --> 03:47:08,500
appointment is not adopted.

6514
03:47:06,766 --> 03:47:12,300
finally we have the order of

6515
03:47:08,600 --> 03:47:15,033
announcements. Are there any

6516
03:47:12,400 --> 03:47:15,533
announcements? Going once.

6517
03:47:15,133 --> 03:47:18,300
counl member chavez.

6518
03:47:16,933 --> 03:47:20,766
» Thank you. I just wanted to

6519
03:47:18,400 --> 03:47:23,266
let the public know sincee

6520
03:47:20,866 --> 03:47:23,433
have folks from -- can you hear

6521
03:47:23,366 --> 03:47:24,233
me?

6522
03:47:23,666 --> 03:47:26,900
» Uh-huh.

6523
03:47:24,333 --> 03:47:29,066
» Yeah, okay. I wanted to let

6524
03:47:27,000 --> 03:47:31,633
the folks hear from target

6525
03:47:29,166 --> 03:47:36,800
fieldworkers that the resolution

6526
03:47:31,733 --> 03:47:37,166
didn't pass authored by council

6527
03:47:36,900 --> 03:47:37,700
member wonsley.

6528
03:47:37,266 --> 03:47:41,666
» Council member warren.

6529
03:47:37,800 --> 03:47:42,600
» I just wanted to say, give a

6530
03:47:41,766 --> 03:47:44,133
shout-out to council member

6531
03:47:42,700 --> 03:47:47,500
shaffer and her team for

6532
03:47:44,233 --> 03:47:50,633
organization -- organizing the

6533
03:47:47,600 --> 03:47:52,800
event this morning. It was great

6534
03:47:50,733 --> 03:47:54,233
and an honor to have my daughter

6535
03:47:52,900 --> 03:47:56,533
a part of that. So, I just

6536
03:47:54,333 --> 03:47:57,966
wanted to say that lots of

6537
03:47:56,633 --> 03:48:01,533
festivities and funool stuff

6538
03:47:58,066 --> 03:48:04,166
happening in enabneighborhoods,

6539
03:48:01,633 --> 03:48:06,600
outside, be outside, but take

6540
03:48:04,266 --> 03:48:09,300
care of yourself. The air equal

6541
03:48:07,033 --> 03:48:10,966
is bad, drink water, mind your

6542
03:48:09,400 --> 03:48:12,633
busiss if you have to, which

6543
03:48:11,066 --> 03:48:14,700
is a fun and safe thing to do,

6544
03:48:12,733 --> 03:48:19,666
and relax. Just eat some ice

6545
03:48:14,800 --> 03:48:19,866
cream and just relax. Yeah, stay

6546
03:48:19,766 --> 03:48:20,433
cool.

6547
03:48:19,966 --> 03:48:21,400
» Council member shaffer.

6548
03:48:20,566 --> 03:48:23,733
yeah, I just wanted to

6549
03:48:21,533 --> 03:48:25,800
meion to my colleagues, many

6550
03:48:23,833 --> 03:48:27,733
of you co-authors that the

6551
03:48:25,900 --> 03:48:31,366
original idea outlined for data

6552
03:48:27,833 --> 03:48:33,166
center regulations will be

6553
03:48:31,466 --> 03:48:36,100
coming forward to the committee

6554
03:48:33,266 --> 03:48:36,966
of the whole at the planning

6555
03:48:36,200 --> 03:48:38,000
commission this afternoon.

6556
03:48:37,066 --> 03:48:38,633
» Council member whiting.

6557
03:48:38,100 --> 03:48:40,966
» Thank you, president payne. I

6558
03:48:38,733 --> 03:48:46,500
sent all of you an e-mail. You

6559
03:48:41,066 --> 03:48:47,400
are all cordially invited to the

6560
03:48:46,600 --> 03:48:49,233
second annual cookout. We will

6561
03:48:47,500 --> 03:48:51,133
have free food, bounce houses,

6562
03:48:49,333 --> 03:48:55,000
all the fun things. Invite your

6563
03:48:51,233 --> 03:48:57,433
friends, invite your family,

6564
03:48:55,100 --> 03:48:57,733
inviolent your aunty and

6565
03:48:57,533 --> 03:48:58,700
neighbors.

6566
03:48:57,833 --> 03:49:03,466
» Time and date?

6567
03:48:59,533 --> 03:49:03,733
» August 8t from noon to 4:00.

6568
03:49:03,566 --> 03:49:06,266
saturday.

6569
03:49:04,750 --> 03:49:07,633
» Where?

6570
03:49:06,366 --> 03:49:09,433
» Washburn high school.

6571
03:49:07,733 --> 03:49:10,600
» Great. With th, we

6572
03:49:09,533 --> 03:49:11,683
completed o business today

6573
03:49:10,700 --> 03:49:13,233
withothing further to come

6574
03:49:11,800 --> 03:49:14,500
before the council and without

6575
03:49:13,333 --> 03:49:16,266
objection, this meeting is here

6576
03:49:15,166 --> 03:49:36,683
by adjourned.

6577
03:49:16,366 --> 03:49:36,683
[gavel].