[0:10] .
[0:10] good afternoon and welcome to
[0:12] our regular meeting of the
[0:15] committee of the whole
[0:16] forjuly 28, 2026. My name is
[0:17] aurin chowdhury and I'm the
[0:19] chair of this committee. I will
[0:21] call this regular meeting to
[0:22] order and ask the clerk to call
[0:25] the roll to verifyhe presence
[0:27] of a quorum.
[0:28] » council member payne.
[0:29] » present.
[0:30] » wonsley is absent. Rainville
[0:34] is absent. Vetaw.
[0:35] » present.
[0:37] » warren.
[0:37] » present.
[0:38] » osman.
[0:39] » present.
[0:40] » shaffer.
[0:40] » present.
[0:41] » stevenson is absent. Chavez.
[0:44] » present.
[0:45] » whiting.
[0:45] » present.
[0:46] » palmisano.
[0:48] » present.
[0:48] » vice chair chughtai.
[0:49] » prent.
[0:49] » and chair chowdhury.
[0:50] » present.
[0:51] » there are 10 memberpresent.
[0:53] » thank you, clerk. Let the
[0:54] record reflect that we have a
[0:56] quorum. Before we begin the
[0:57] meeting, let me offer a friendly
[0:59] reminder to everyone that tse
[1:01] meetings are broadcast live to
[1:03] enable greater public
[1:04] participa
[1:06] include real-time captioning to
[1:09] increase accessibility for our
[1:10] entire community. So it's
[1:11] important that all speakers be
[1:13] mindful o the rate of their
[1:14] speech so that our captioners
[1:16] can fully capture and transcribe
[1:19] comments for the broadcast. We
[1:21] ask all speakers to please
[1:23] moderate the speed and clarity
[1:25] of their comments. S
[1:28] colleagues, our agenda is in
[1:29] front of us. Are there any
[1:34] amendments before we bin? May
[1:37] I have a motion to adopt the
[1:39] agenda?
[1:39] » so moved.
[1:41] » second.
[1:41] » all those in favor say aye.
[1:44] » aye.
[1:45] » those opposed say nay. And
[1:50] then before we get into a report
[1:51] of standing committees, I would
[1:55] just like to give a big welcome
[1:59] back to council member chughtai,
[2:00] the vice chair of this
[2:01] committee. We are so excited to
[2:05] have you back. So we'll start
[2:08] with our reports of standing
[2:11] committee. Starring with the
[2:16] business, housing and zong
[2:17] committee chaired by chair
[2:19] osman.
[2:19] » the business, housing and
[2:20] zoning committee will be
[2:21] bringing forward 20 items on
[2:24] thursday council meeting. Item
[2:33] one is approves enrique
[2:36] velazquez for dector of
[2:38] regulato services. Item two is
[2:44] interim use permit of people
[2:45] serving people. Im 4 is an
[2:49] appeal from fg & c recording 3
[2:53] very000 minnehaha avenue, aka
[3:02] the democracy center. Item 7
[3:06] approves gambling license. Item
[3:14] 8 grants business license for
[3:17] commercial kitchen. Item 9
[3:22] amends license fee schedule for
[3:26] tow trucking services free. Item
[3:29] 10 contract amendment for
[3:31] macphail music center. 11
[3:39] authorizes -- 13 accepts a bid
[3:42] for repcing floor box at
[3:44] convention center. 14 delegates
[3:51] authority t cped director of
[3:52] the owner occupied rehab
[3:58] program. 16 authorize a
[4:04] contract extension for greenbelt
[4:10] development project. 17
[4:14] approves -- 18 affordable change
[4:18] for ahtf. 19 authorizes a
[4:21] program change to naturally
[4:23] according affordable housing or
[4:25] noah. And laly, 20 is rezoning
[4:35] alley vacation. This item was
[4:37] sent forward without
[4:38] recommendation. With that, I
[4:40] will stand for any questions
[4:41] from my colleaes.
[4:42] » colleagues, are there any
[4:44] questions? Seeing none, we'll
[4:48] move to the climate and
[4:49] infrastructure committee report.
[4:49] I will be giving that report.
[4:58] the climate and infrastructure
[4:58] committee has 13 items to bring
[5:01] forward.
[5:01] of 1 is du nord event permit.
[5:10] two is banana ball games block
[5:14] event permit. Three is sway
[5:17] easement for a portion of 2nd
[5:20] avue north. Four is metro
[5:25] grnlight extension. Agreement
[5:26] number 14. Item 15 is
[5:29] minneapolistreet lighting plan
[5:31] amendment. Item 6 is cedar lake
[5:37] ro bridge project. Item 7 -- 8
[5:47] is the metropolitan council
[5:52] municipal infiltration and
[5:53] inflow grant for reprs of
[5:56] existing sewers and
[5:58] oss-connection elimination.
[5:59] nine is a bid for 2026-2027
[6:05] public works tree removal and
[6:10] disposal. Item 11 is columbia
[6:17] heights membrane plant roof
[6:19] replacement. 12 is a contract
[6:24] amendmenwith cs mccrossan
[6:27] construction for bridge
[6:30] improvements. 13 is the bicycle
[6:33] advisory commieeappointments.
[6:34] I'll stand for any queions if
[6:34] there are any. Seeing none, we
[6:41] will next go to the report by
[6:56] the enterprise and bor
[6:59] relations committee.
[7:01] » item 3 is a contract
[7:03] amendment with shaw lundquist
[7:10] for city hall restack amendment.
[7:14] four is a contract amendment
[7:17] with saba software. Items five
[7:18] and six are legal settlements.
[7:20] seven is a claim settlement
[7:22] where we are receiving money.
[7:25] item 8 is an indebtedness and
[7:30] bond authorization. Nine is an
[7:34] appointed position in the health
[7:35] department for director of
[7:37] environmenta health. 10 is our
[7:41] tonswer questions. . I'm happy
[7:44] » not seeing any questions, we
[7:46] will now go to the last report
[7:51] of the public health, safety and
[7:53] equity committee gen by its
[7:58] chair, chair chavez.
[7:58] » the public health, safety and
[7:59] equity committee will be
[8:01] bringing forward 7 items. One
[8:03] considers the mayor's nomination
[8:06] of dr. Freeman to appointed
[8:08] position of fire chief. This was
[8:10] sent forward without
[8:11] recommendation. Two is contract
[8:16] with hennepin technical college.
[8:24] item 4 authorizes a contract
[8:26] amendment with the center for
[8:31] multi-cultural mediation. The
[8:33] five authorizes a contract
[8:37] initiative. Six accepts a grant
[8:39] for the minnesota department of
[8:41] heth to provide family home
[8:45] visiting services and authores
[8:45] an agreement with the state of
[8:47] minnesota for the grant. Seven
[8:51] approves legislative directive.
[8:52] I'll stand for any questions.
[8:57] » members, are there any
[8:59] questions? Seeing none, we will
[9:00] now turn to the consent agenda.
[9:02] our only item today is a special
[9:05] law approval for food hall
[9:07] licenses. This was submitted by
[9:09] the intergovernmeal relations
[9:11] department. They're also here to
[9:13] ask any questions related to
[9:14] is item. With that, do my
[9:18] colleagues have any other
[9:19] discussion or qutions on this
[9:20] item? Great. Seeing no further
[9:28] discuson, I will move approval
[9:30] of this consent agenda. Can I
[9:31] get a second?
[9:34] » second.
[9:35] » all those in favor say aye.
[9:37] » aye.
[9:38] » those opposed say nay. That
[9:41] carries. Now moving on to the
[9:42] discussion portion of our
[9:45] agenda. This next item is a
[9:48] grant application to the united
[9:50] states department of justice. It
[9:51] is for the 2026 national
[9:54] integrated ballistic information
[9:57] network modernizatn program
[9:58] known as nibin. I will have mpd
[10:03] commander kris brown come to
[10:05] speak more on this item.
[10:23] » welcome, mmander.
[10:38] » madam chair, vice chair, and
[10:40] weome back, and council
[10:42] members, thank you for this
[10:45] opp
[10:47] for the grant in the nibin
[10:51] modernitization program grant.
[10:54] sorry for my voice. I lost it on
[10:57] sunday and I haven't found it
[10:59] yet. The nibin mernization
[11:03] grant, it's for modernizing the
[11:05] technology. The doj historically
[11:08] provided the funds for this, now
[11:09] it's provided in the way of a
[11:11] grant for existing nibin
[11:13] agencies. So agencies that
[11:15] currently have nibin have an
[11:17] opportunity to file in for this
[11:18] grant. So nibin stands for
[11:23] national integrated ballistic
[11:24] integration network. This
[11:26] provides funding for replacing
[11:28] the outdated nibin equipment at
[11:31] existing sites only to give them
[11:33] modern nibin compatible
[11:36] technology to irove crime gun
[11:37] intelligence capabilities. This
[11:39] will help strengthen
[11:41] investigations and our efforts
[11:42] to reduce the violent crime in
[11:44] nneapolis. And as well as
[11:46] jurisdictions that also use this
[11:47] as well. Because it's very much
[11:50] a partnership. So the grant
[11:51] funding pays for new nibin
[11:54] compatible technology and
[11:54] equipment includes it is for
[11:58] five years of upgrades and
[12:01] maintenance which will ruce
[12:02] the financial burden on
[12:04] minneapolis. Without this grant,
[12:06] minneapoliwould own the cost
[12:06] of it. The grant is over five
[12:08] years, it's $300,000. So this is
[12:11] like I said, this is a
[12:16] non-competitive grant. So it's
[12:18] those including minneapolis were
[12:20] invited to attend to apply for
[12:21] this particular grant. So
[12:24] there's 170 agencies that
[12:25] currently use nibin, and they
[12:27] were giv the opportunity to
[12:28] apply for this grant to maintain
[12:31] and upgrade their current
[12:33] equipment. So nibin is a program
[12:35] that is managed by the atf.
[12:39] nibin is a database that
[12:41] captures, stores and correlates
[12:44] digital images, which we
[12:47] oftentimes would call
[12:49] fingerprints of discharge
[12:51] cartridge casing. Dccs. So after
[12:54] you shoot the gun, the bullet
[12:57] itself is expelled outside of
[12:58] the gun. But it leaves either in
[13:00] the gun or on the groun a spent
[13:03] casing. So the spent casing is
[13:05] what this equipment analyzes.
[13:07] and what's unique to that
[13:09] particular thing is that that
[13:11] casing and the indentations that
[13:13] you and I can't see that are on
[13:16] that particular casing, nibin
[13:18] equipmencan see those things.
[13:19] and I'll talk a little bit more
[13:21] in detail about that. It
[13:23] identifies the gun. It's the
[13:25] fingerprints of that gun, that
[13:26] specific gun. So firearm
[13:29] evidence from one crime to
[13:31] anothe is compared with the
[13:34] purpose of detecting
[13:35] assoations between separate
[13:37] shooting incidents through the
[13:38] firearms evidence. That's
[13:40] actionable intelligence. Nibin
[13:42] aids in preventing violence as
[13:44] well a finding out who
[13:46] perpetrated the violent crime
[13:48] that's already happened. Up on
[13:49] the screen here, you'll see this
[13:51] is the current equipment that we
[13:54] have. On the monitor right there
[13:55] gives you an idea of what it
[13:57] looks like after a spent casing
[13:58] is put through the system. It
[14:00] doesn't look like much, b if
[14:01] you kinda think of it as a
[14:03] fingerprint, you're loong at
[14:06] it that is unique to any casing
[14:08] that was sent through that
[14:11] particular weapon. So next to is
[14:15] is the box that you put the
[14:17] casing on and it analyzes it and
[14:19] shows up on that. Then that
[14:21] information is sent down to atf
[14:26] to analyze further. So
[14:27] minneapolis police department
[14:28] has been part of the nibin
[14:31] program since 2002. Equipment
[14:34] was installed in 2014. You can
[14:36] imagine there's been a lot of
[14:38] changes and a lot of
[14:40] advancements since 2014.
[14:41] upgrades in technology as well
[14:43] as the program itself is very
[14:45] important. Earlier on, when we
[14:47] reportednibin, we would submit
[14:50] as needed these casings into the
[14:53] systems and that creates quite a
[14:56] backlog. So when we did actually
[14:58] have something happen right
[15:00] away, it would take weeks or
[15:01] possibly even months before we
[15:02] would get the results back.
[15:04] which is really difficult wn
[15:05] you're trying to use that
[15:07] information for investigations
[15:08] that are currently open. So the
[15:10] current process eliminates that
[15:13] wait time by proactively
[15:16] processing every discharge
[15:17] casing we come up with, every
[15:19] dcc. As well as when we recover
[15:22] any firearm, in our laboratories
[15:24] through the forensics labs, will
[15:26] firehat weapon and we'll use
[15:27] that casing that comes out of
[15:29] that recovered firearm and put
[15:31] it through the same system. So
[15:32] now we have the fingerprints of
[15:34] that gun that wasrecovered. And
[15:36] sometimes that can link it to
[15:38] other guns in other cmes that
[15:39] we've had happen. So the steps
[15:47] of nibin are, so mpd will
[15:48] collect and submit that evidence
[15:50] into nibin. There's a turnaround
[15:53] that's as brief as possible
[15:55] because we want our
[15:56] investigato
[15:58] that information. To give you an
[16:00] idea, itan be done rushed, it
[16:04] could be done in the same day.
[16:06] otherwise average time is five
[16:08] to six days to get the
[16:09] information back. But the
[16:11] investigation is still ongoing
[16:14] and we can link that gun to
[16:17] other crimes that have happened
[16:19] when casings are discharged.
[16:22] there's a follow up with
[16:23] prosecution investigations. I
[16:25] was here last week presenting.
[16:26] while I was in the lobby
[16:28] waiting, I was here becau they
[16:32] were presenting on the fast
[16:34] team. Lieutenant schroeder got
[16:37] six hits while we were waiting.
[16:39] not saying you guys took too
[16:41] long. But while we were waiting,
[16:45] he got six hits of casings while
[16:48] we were waiting from nibin.
[16:51] associated that guwith another
[16:52] crime that happened in
[16:53] minneapolis. Those are just our
[16:56] hitsegarding what we are
[16:58] submitting them for. This is
[17:00] critical and essential to
[17:01] minneapolis. So t
[17:06] effectiveness of nibin relies on
[17:08] comprehensive collection of
[17:10] discharge casings at crime
[17:11] scenes as well as recovering
[17:14] firearms and forensic division
[17:15] to enter that in there
[17:18] immediately. The operation
[17:21] adopts a required minimum
[17:23] required operations standards.
[17:25] the gold standard is within two
[17:28] days of collection of the
[17:29] firearm or the dcc gets entered
[17:35] into nibin so there's no delay.
[17:39] so the forensics division can
[17:41] contribute to the overall
[17:43] strategy toeal with gun
[17:43] violence by providing this
[17:46] actionable crime gun
[17:47] intelligence to investigators as
[17:48] well as using forensic data to
[17:51] not only solve crimes but to
[17:52] prevent future violent crimes as
[17:53] well. Take a moment here. I'm
[17:56] going to give you a case study
[18:00] for use of the nibin program. So
[18:05] I can't give you one that's
[18:06] currently ongoing. So I can give
[18:08] you an example of one that
[18:10] happened in 2023. In august 9th
[18:13] of 2023, minneapolis police
[18:15] officers were dispatched to the
[18:17] intersection of thomas avenue
[18:19] north and oak park avenue in
[18:22] north minneapolis. The repor
[18:26] was for shots fired and a woman
[18:29] screaming. Unrtunately, the
[18:31] victim was pronounced deceased
[18:34] at the hospital. Video door bell
[18:38] captured tha incident. Located
[18:39] a video of a cargo van that was
[18:41] likely used in the incident. The
[18:45] following day officers were able
[18:47] to locate a possible suspect
[18:48] vehicle that was used in this
[18:51] crime. Officers inside the
[18:54] vehicle were able to, after a
[19:00] a spent dcc from a .10mm casing
[19:09] from the scene of the shooting
[19:12] indicating they had been shot
[19:14] from the same weapon. This is a
[19:17] particular example of how the
[19:19] nibin machine was used. The
[19:22] video case led to the suspect
[19:24] vehicle. But the nibin evidence
[19:29] linked to thcrime. So the
[19:36] nibin modernization prram. By
[19:39] receiving this grant and getting
[19:40] the appropriate updates and
[19:42] maintenance to the existing
[19:45] machine system, which are now
[19:47] reaching the end of their
[19:48] service life, making repairs,
[19:50] replacement parts, and
[19:52] manufacturing support is
[19:53] becoming increasingly difficult
[19:55] if we were to maintain our
[19:57] existing equipment without this
[19:57] grant. Maintaining operational
[20:02] capability without the
[20:05] modernization, agencies will
[20:05] risk down time as well as
[20:08] degraded performance that could
[20:09] result in delayed ballistic
[20:10] evidence processing, which will
[20:13] affect crime gun investigations.
[20:18] newer nibin technology provides
[20:21] faster processing, higher
[20:22] quality images and better match
[20:25] capabilities, helping
[20:26] investigators identify firearms
[20:27] more quickly. Upgrading the
[20:32] systems maintain capability with
[20:33] nibin software and
[20:34] infrastructure. So atf is
[20:38] evolving and improving their
[20:40] software. Our equipment needs to
[20:41] keep up with that. At some point
[20:43] in time, if we don't have cost
[20:46] covered and we don't make these
[20:48] changes, we won't be able to
[20:50] participate in the particular
[20:53] program. That does conclude my
[20:55] ief on this particular case.
[20:56] if you guys have any questions,
[20:57] I can speak to them now.
[20:58] » thank you. Members, please
[21:02] get into queue if you have any
[21:05] questions for comments. We have
[21:08] council member chavez in queue.
[21:09] go ahead, council member.
[21:11] » thank you, chair chowdhury.
[21:13] I'd like to first express my
[21:14] concern about this matter. I
[21:19] wished the presentation at least
[21:24] acknowledgement the har to
[21:26] immigrant residents. I am not
[21:27] disputing the need for funding
[21:28] to address this concern or the
[21:30] ncern to address gun violence
[21:32] in our city. But I am dputing
[21:33] the fact that there was no
[21:35] mention in this presentation
[21:36] about the harmful rhetoricoted
[21:38] about our undocumented
[21:41] neighbors. The notice of funding
[21:46] the purpose of funding, to at
[21:51] locate and apprehend quote
[21:53] aliens" in addition to being
[21:56] quote unlawfully present in the
[21:58] united states, investigated
[21:59] crimes committed by quote
[22:00] illegal aliens. I want to be
[22:02] very clear to my commuty that
[22:04] this language is very
[22:06] disrespectful. It is
[22:09] dehumanizing and it is not in
[22:12] vae with the city of
[22:13] minneapolis. Activities from
[22:16] directly or undirectly quote
[22:21] impeding federal -- failure to
[22:24] honor dhs notice request. In
[22:27] this notice of funding
[22:28] opportunity opetes under a
[22:30] section which is itself named
[22:32] the bridging immigration related
[22:36] deficits experiencing nationwide
[22:38] by the reimbursement fund. Quote
[22:41] aliens who have committed a
[22:43] crime under federal, state or
[22:44] local law. In addition to being
[22:47] quote unlawfully present in the
[22:48] ited states. The mou attached
[22:51] also states that except as
[22:53] expressly prohibited by law, the
[22:55] nibin partner agrees to provide
[22:57] atf with access to all
[23:01] information, reports, and any
[23:05] information regarding to crimes
[23:07] with evidence -- historical and
[23:09] case adjudication information on
[23:10] the use and results and the use
[23:13] of nibin program and/or systems
[23:18] or related services by provided
[23:20] by atf. Capturing of information
[23:23] and other stuff. I want to first
[23:25] state that I do not accept the
[23:28] premise, implicit or explicit in
[23:30] this or any federal instrument
[23:31] that immigrant residents are a
[23:33] threat to public safety
[23:35] requiring locating and
[23:36] apprehending. I believe that we
[23:38] as a city have a duty to ensure
[23:40] that when we are applying for
[23:42] and accepting federal funds that
[23:44] we do not lend the city'same
[23:50] to a -- I do not accept the idea
[23:55] that undocumented immigrants are
[23:57] quote aliens or quote illegal.
[23:59] and I do not accept the premise
[24:01] that expressing these concerns
[24:02] e rooted in rhetoric when
[24:05] these concerns are coming from
[24:09] caring about our immigrant
[24:10] neighbors in the city. If we are
[24:12] going to pursue this, I will be
[24:14] working with the city attorney's
[24:16] office to attach a resolution
[24:17] that says we do not agree with
[24:19] the use of calling our neighbors
[24:21] illegal or aliens, and that
[24:24] otr conditions will have to be
[24:25] applied. So I just wanted to
[24:29] express my concerns today.
[24:30] » tnk you, council member
[24:31] chavez. Next, we will go to vice
[24:34] chair chughtai.
[24:36] » thank you,adam chair. Thank
[24:38] you for the presentation,
[24:42] commander brown. Always a
[24:42] pleasure to have you in the
[24:45] chambers. I am wondering if you
[24:47] might be able to answer a couple
[24:50] of questions. And specifically,
[24:51] I'm hoping that you can help
[24:58] articulate here the city has
[25:00] contracts with a number of
[25:03] agencies in the realm of law
[25:05] enforcement. I know we have a
[25:08] contract with the stats bureau
[25:11] of criminal apprehension, the
[25:15] bca. I think that one is related
[25:18] to assistance with forensics. I
[25:22] think there's ballistics and
[25:25] other aspects that you
[25:27] highligh
[25:30] presentation. So just help us
[25:36] utilize this grant when we have
[25:41] more impact on it. This one may
[25:45] be one I can handle. We have
[25:47] lots of different mous and we
[25:50] submit our evidence to the a
[25:52] and pay for it on many different
[25:55] ways. But what we are doing in
[25:57] this particular program, this is
[26:00] thugh the doj and atf. It's a
[26:03] broader netwk. This is just
[26:06] looking for funding to maintain,
[26:08] update the equipment for the
[26:10] program that still exists.
[26:13] » generally speaking, is it
[26:17] sa
[26:20] partners at the state and local
[26:23] level have some sort of
[26:26] relationship with an agency that
[26:29] has nibin access?
[26:32] » through the chair, vice
[26:34] chair, I can say that there's
[26:36] 170 agencies that are currently
[26:38] using nibin. But that's going to
[26:40] be primarily large agencies. And
[26:44] so it does behoove us. Because
[26:46] some of the crimes tha we're
[26:48] finding weapons for are going to
[26:51] be helping our partners in the
[26:55] immediate area, suburbs and the
[26:58] such. The guns we capture
[27:01] casing we may be able to solve
[27:04] other crimes and prevent future
[27:06] crimes from happening at all.
[27:08] » I think what I'm taking away
[27:11] here is that, you kn, we're
[27:14] not -- the city isn't going to
[27:15] lose access to a system that is
[27:19] critical as a result of not
[27:25] suitting a proposal to receive
[27:27] this grant. I think that makes
[27:29] it a little bit different from
[27:32] instances in the past I think
[27:35] when we've had contracts or
[27:37] things like that for approval
[27:38] bere the body, and the choices
[27:40] between having a system or
[27:41] » thank you. Thank you, sir,
[27:43] for that presentation. Can you
[27:45] talk about or address, I'm
[27:48] looking at the document rca
[27:49] here. The concern raised by
[27:53] council memberhavez about the
[27:55] language used in the
[27:56] application. Can you touch a
[28:00] little bit about that?
[28:00] » through the chair, council
[28:01] member osman, I can just talk
[28:04] about it briefly.
[28:05] » sure.
[28:06] » sohen we first got the --
[28:08] so what he's referring to is the
[28:10] notice of funding opportunity
[28:12] that's put out by the doj. All
[28:16] language for federal grants, we
[28:18] don't write them.
[28:18] » sure I know.
[28:20] » the language does come from
[28:25] whoever the current federal
[28:26] administrator is. So wdon't
[28:28] make up that. Whenever we
[28:30] receive a grant opportunity, we
[28:31] run allhat through the city
[28:33] attorney's office and vet it
[28:34] before we ever make any
[28:36] agreements of any way. So
[28:39] traditionally, we would have
[28:41] been sending -- this information
[28:43] would have come to you after
[28:47] they decide. We just were
[28:49] running late on this particular
[28:51] case so we sent the whole
[28:52] package to you at theame time
[28:53] the city attorney's were looking
[28:55] at it. The letter did not come
[28:58] with an explanation by the city
[29:01] currently does. S time and it
[29:02] » so my understanding is we are
[29:04] looking for this funding and
[29:08] applying through the u.s.
[29:11] government, and part ofheir
[29:16] notice or application
[29:18] information, I includes the
[29:22] language that is seen to be what
[29:31] trump, which is illegal aliens
[29:33] and language like that. That is
[29:37] actually, it is concern. But I
[29:43] don't know how this could rate
[29:47] to what we're getting as in o
[29:48] department. It's very
[29:58] concerning ever since trump took
[29:59] over office. But for us, we are,
[30:05] as adepartment, I'm guessing
[30:08] we're applying. We apply a lot
[30:12] of grants through this
[30:14] ministration. And I think that
[30:16] what you mentioned is very
[30:18] important to nice that this
[30:20] grant is going to hp us reduce
[30:23] crimes and help us cch bad
[30:25] guys that are committing crimes.
[30:32] can you talk about o more
[30:34] about accepting this grants.
[30:36] what is the --re there any
[30:41] attachment on immigration or any
[30:44] things thrgh the city that we
[30:45] have to address? And how is that
[30:47] related to immigration,
[30:52] acpting theserants? I don't
[30:53] know if I heard that. But if
[30:56] there's any city attorneys here
[30:56] accepting the grants, how does
[30:59] that relate to immigration
[31:01] enrcement in the city?
[31:05] member osman, city attorneys
[31:06] will be able to answer that
[31:08] question.
[31:08] » thank you.
[31:09] » good afternoon,embers of
[31:10] the council. My name is amy
[31:13] schutt, ad assistant city
[31:15] attorney. Through the chair,
[31:16] council member osman, to your
[31:18] question generally speaking
[31:20] about problematic grant terms.
[31:21] we have beeneeing an increase
[31:24] in these terms since the
[31:25] beginning of the trump
[31:26] administration. And that is the
[31:28] reason that my office has set up
[31:29] a process for reviewing terms
[31:31] for all grants that the city is
[31:33] applying for. So this grant as
[31:35] was mentioned, went through that
[31:37] process just as many other
[31:38] grants do.
[31:39] I happened to be the one who
[31:40] received that for review and
[31:44] reviewed the grant and all of
[31:46] the documents referenced in that
[31:50] nofo for any problematic terms
[31:52] and conditns. That includes
[31:54] terms and conditions that would
[31:56] separate the ordinance. As well
[31:59] as any terms and condions that
[32:01] would require the city to act in
[32:03] a way that is antithetical to
[32:06] our values. My determination in
[32:07] reviewing those documents was
[32:11] that there are not any --
[32:12] there's no information in it a
[32:14] this point that does require us
[32:16] to act in a way that is
[32:22] antithetical t our values.
[32:23] while it does have problematic
[32:25] language in it, it has
[32:29] inappropriate language in it
[32:30] related to our undocumented
[32:35] neighbors. That language doesn't
[32:37] that would force us to not ty
[32:39] accept thegrant.
[32:41] » that is really helpful to
[32:44] understand that. I will suprt
[32:49] this accepting this grants. Also
[32:51] that I disagree with a lot of
[32:54] things that administration says.
[32:55] but as a city, if we're
[33:00] following our separation
[33:01] ordinance and doing the right
[33:03] it's really hard fors to ng,
[33:05] contl what this administration
[33:06] says. But we just gotta keep
[33:08] going and doing what we can to
[33:11] keep our residents and citizens
[33:13] safe. And this grant helps our
[33:18] police officers capture the bad
[33:21] guysnd put them in jusce to
[33:23] make sure that we are not
[33:25] commitng more imes. And this
[33:27] is a tool that could help, you
[33:31] know, keep our community safe. I
[33:33] appreciate your explanation that
[33:37] immigration enforcement. But
[33:40] again, we can't control wt our
[33:41] president says. Thank you.
[33:43] » thank you. Next, we'll go to
[33:48] council member palmisano.
[33:51] » first, il say I agree whole
[33:56] heartedly with council member
[33:57] chavez's admings of the language
[34:08] used by the federal government
[34:10] here. This is important language
[34:12] and also agree to get this
[34:15] machine's upkeep funded. T
[34:18] tes of this grant as the city
[34:20] attorney just mentioned are what
[34:22] is most important to me. None of
[34:24] these terms require us to act in
[34:26] a way different to our common
[34:28] values here. Just yesterday I
[34:31] was speaking with a localptown
[34:35] restaurant owner who had shots
[34:37] fired into their restaurant last
[34:41] week, at their restaurant
[34:42] manager through a window. And
[34:44] this team of restaurant
[34:46] employees lives in fear and has
[34:49] been waiting anxiously, eagerly,
[34:51] to get those casgs processed.
[34:54] I have a question for commander
[34:57] brown. Commander brown, you
[34:58] mentioned the mpd meets the
[35:01] atf's gold standards for nibin
[35:04] entry and it's two-business
[35:07] days. It sounds like we'
[35:09] meeting that. You're proud of
[35:12] at. Does that mean reentry is
[35:17] getting results?
[35:18] » yes, it gets entered into the
[35:21] system within two days. If it
[35:24] was a case that was given a
[35:25] eedy, I believe that would be
[35:27] a response. It could be upo
[35:30] six days. If you want to know
[35:32] more specific, I can provide a
[35:34] forensic director up here.
[35:36] » I guess I'm just curious, do
[35:37] we end up with backlogs based on
[35:39] a number of shootings in our
[35:42] community ese last two weeks
[35:44] or is that not really a thing?
[35:46] » through the chair, council
[35:47] member palmisano, no, we do not
[35:52] basically pay it forward by
[35:54] processing everything as we get
[35:55] it. All of a sudden everything
[35:57] is a hurry doesn't happen.
[35:59] » okay. Well thank you. That is
[36:02] helpful, and it's helpful as we
[36:03] connect with people who arehe
[36:05] victims of gun violence but not
[36:07] being able to keep our nibin
[36:10] systems completely up to date
[36:12] and processing things quickly
[36:13] like this, like you mentioned in
[36:15] the slide. Equipment breaking
[36:16] down or havin problems or not
[36:17] being able to get replacement
[36:19] parts. Like, this is
[36:21] problematic. It impacts victims
[36:22] who are shot at. It impacts an
[36:24] investigation. It means less
[36:29] is why I'll be supporting this
[36:31] today. Thank you.
[36:36] » thank you. Go to counc
[36:38] member chavez.
[36:39] » thank you, chair chowdhury. A
[36:41] question for mpd. Do we have
[36:43] confirmation from the federal
[36:45] government that they would
[36:47] interpret us accepting this
[36:49] grant as having us to enforce
[36:54] federal immigration enforcement
[36:57] laws?
[36:57] » I personally have not spoken
[36:59] with the federal government
[37:00] about their interpretations of
[37:01] this agreement at all. I know
[37:03] that -
[37:04] » you haven't?
[37:05] » I personally have not spoken
[37:07] through them. I know o city
[37:09] attorney's office is looking at
[37:12] what we're obligated to do under
[37:13] this agreement. And that was
[37:15] expressed earlier.
[37:15] » city attorney's office, would
[37:17] you be able to answer that
[37:20] questi?
[37:25] » why is everybody looking at
[37:26] me like that? I get to ask these
[37:28] questions if it'salking about
[37:30] my community.
[37:30] » I'm sorry. Can you repeat the
[37:32] last thing tt you said.
[37:35] » has the feder government
[37:37] communicated with us that if we
[37:38] were to apply and accept this
[37:40] grant that we would then have to
[37:42] do immigraon enforcement?
[37:44] » to my knowledge, we've had no
[37:46] communication with the federal
[37:48] government about their
[37:49] interpretation of the law
[37:49] surrounding this area.
[37:50] » I think thas important to
[37:52] figure out if we're applying for
[37:54] a grant that talks about quote
[37:56] illegal aliens and immigration
[37:59] enforcement. W are we not
[38:00] getting that information? So I
[38:01] would like that as a follow up
[38:03] to get an answer to that.
[38:05] colleagues, there seems like
[38:06] there's going to be a vote to
[38:09] approve this. It needs seven
[38:11] votes. It's going to need nine
[38:13] votes anyway. So I'm going to be
[38:15] bringing forward a resolion
[38:16] that I'll be working closely
[38:19] with the cityattorney's
[38:21] expressing concerns of this
[38:22] language in the nofo.
[38:25] calls them illegal, calls them
[38:27] alien, and puts requirements if
[38:29] this gets accepted. Because what
[38:30] I don't want is we're going to
[38:32] be doing things that are going
[38:33] to be hurting our immigrant
[38:36] neighbors. I'll be reaching out
[38:38] and I'll be attaching it to this
[38:41] nofo.
[38:41] » all right. Thank you, council
[38:43] member chavez. Clerks, did you
[38:46] get that?
[38:46] » yes, madam chair. The
[38:49] question related to whether or
[38:50] not there's been any
[38:51] communication with the federal
[38:53] government about this one.
[38:55] » communication and then if
[38:56] there is a way to get that
[38:59] information of if entering into
[39:01] this grant agreement, it would
[39:04] be interpreted into eorcing
[39:09] immigration enforcement as
[39:11] deiled in the bidened fund
[39:15] act.
[39:15] » thank you.
[39:16] » I put myself in queue next. I
[39:19] think we need to just say what
[39:20] the elephant in the room is.
[39:22] this is like adeeply, deeply
[39:25] tough position that members of
[39:27] this council are in. Myself,
[39:29] included. And I think that was
[39:31] very clearly cmunicated in our
[39:34] agenda setting because the nofo
[39:38] has laid out language for
[39:40] purpose of funding that doe
[39:42] speak to our immigrant community
[39:44] in dehumazing ways, reflective
[39:47] of the experience that we had in
[39:50] operatiometro surge. And I
[39:51] think from where I sit, the
[39:53] feelings that membersf this
[39:55] body have and members of our
[39:58] communityill have in
[39:59] understanding the purpose of
[40:00] funding and where the funding
[40:02] comes from are valid. It's
[40:06] unsurprising to  that people
[40:07] are having hard reactions to
[40:09] that. And I think that's the
[40:10] reality of this. I think the
[40:12] question before us is should we
[40:19] that's largely a governance
[40:22] approach. For me, I am
[40:27] personally troubled that this
[40:28] comes from the bridging
[40:31] immigration deficits experienced
[40:34] nationwide program. Basically,
[40:37] immigration enforcement
[40:38] reimbursement fund for state
[40:39] governments, local governments,
[40:41] other units. And it's kind of
[40:43] hard for us to separate th. I
[40:47] don'tbject to nibin. I
[40:48] understand the tool. And it
[40:51] sounds like it's been showing
[40:55] clear deliverables. I don't
[40:56] think not applying for ts
[40:58] grt means we don't update it.
[41:00] it does mean that we would have
[41:02] to look to our own budge to do
[41:04] it. Which is always the chance
[41:06] ifor some reason, o, we
[41:09] apply and this doesn't get
[41:12] accepted. Two, we apply and
[41:14] there's terms we can't agree to
[41:15] becaus the same revw that the
[41:17] city attorneys do in applying
[41:19] for said grant, that same level
[41:21] of scrutiny has to hpen again
[41:25] once the grant I before us. And
[41:27] th again, we have to vote for
[41:29] it. So those are kind of tngs
[41:33] to weigh. I do want to just ask
[41:35] a question, and noticed this
[41:38] la
[41:41] for committee. It's my
[41:42] understanding in order for us to
[41:44] apply for this grant, it has to
[41:46] pass through this body. It has
[41:48] to go through final action on
[41:50] thursday. And then it has to be
[41:52] signed off by the mayor. And our
[41:56] final vote on this is on the
[41:57] 30th. I noticed that the
[42:01] deadlines listed in the nofo are
[42:04] yond that time. So the
[42:08] grants.gov deadline is 7/27.
[42:10] which is now passed. And the
[42:12] just grants deadline is 7/29,
[42:16] which is tomorrow before our
[42:18] cocil meeting. Wondering
[42:20] how a we applying for thisf
[42:24] it's past deadline?
[42:25] » madam chair, actually, we
[42:26] were notified that it's been
[42:28] extended beyond that. I believe
[42:29] it's august. I can get you the
[42:31] exact date if you'd like.
[42:32] » think that would be good to
[42:34] know. If you wanted -- if you're
[42:36] able to pl it up or if you
[42:38] want to do it via administrative
[42:40] follow-up. Ihink that's
[42:43] important. Yeah. Let's do
[42:46] administrative follow-up,
[42:48] commander. Don't worry about
[42:50] pulling it up. If you can get it
[42:52] and send it out via email, I
[42:56] think that's heful. Those are
[42:57] my comments. And I mean, given
[43:05] the nature of the question that
[43:08] council meer chavez asked, and
[43:10] just like from my viewpoint on
[43:12] the governance approach is I
[43:15] personally don't feel
[43:16] comfortable entering into this
[43:18] grant. And I also feel like
[43:20] there needs to be more
[43:21] transparency on the nofo. We had
[43:24] grants come before us, like the
[43:26] burn grant, that didn't have
[43:27] th type of langue and didn't
[43:30] come from this bidened fund that
[43:37] enforcement. So I will now
[43:39] recognize council president
[43:40] payne.
[43:40] » tha you, chair chowdhury. I
[43:43] first want to thank the city
[43:44] attorney's office, particularly
[43:46] ms. Schutt. I think this is
[43:48] really diligent legal analysis.
[43:49] I also want to give a special
[43:52] shout outo ms. Robinson, ms.
[43:56] lathrop. We just recently won a
[43:58] case in the minnesota supreme
[43:59] court protecting our separation
[44:00] ordinance. I an, our
[44:03] attorney's office is fighting
[44:04] day in and day out to really
[44:05] stand up for the values of the
[44:06] city. And I say all that to say
[44:12] that this is active and ongoing
[44:15] litigation and legal conflict
[44:16] with the federal administration.
[44:18] and one of thfirst things that
[44:20] we did at the beginning of 2025
[44:23] s authorize the city
[44:24] attorney's office to proactively
[44:26] engage with the trump
[44:27] administration. And the we
[44:28] renewed that because we had set
[44:30] an expiration date for the end
[44:31] of 2025. When we realized for
[44:33] the duration of the trump
[44:34] administration we are going to
[44:36] have to be an active litigation
[44:38] and activy fighting out the
[44:40] values of this city that's just
[44:42] the background and context I
[44:43] want to share with why ion't
[44:47] be supporting this is because we
[44:49] are not operating in a really
[44:51] stable legal terrain right now
[44:52] when itomes to this. This
[44:57] troubling as council member
[44:58] chavezas highlighte and
[45:00] we've got strong legal analysis.
[45:01] buthat legal analysis is based
[45:04] on today's case law. And we are
[45:08] not done litigating what that
[45:10] case law is going to be as it
[45:11] relates to our relationship to
[45:13] the feder gornment. And so
[45:16] if we were under different
[45:18] circumstances, I mean, the value
[45:22] is clear. The need is clear. I
[45:26] am hopeful that, youknow, we're
[45:29] not operating under a dismantled
[45:32] system. We have a functioning
[45:32] system. We are at risk just due
[45:36] to age that that system won't be
[45:38] functioning anymore. B it's
[45:39] not a non-functional system at
[45:41] this time. And I just think that
[45:44] the risk of the federal
[45:47] government, like even with
[45:48] strong legal analysis, which I
[45:50] do believe we have I don't
[45:51] think that strongegal analysis
[45:56] reallyters when they will
[45:57] execute o residents. When they
[45:59] will assault me personally. I
[46:01] might be a little bit biased
[46:03] here. But my own persol 4th
[46:07] amendment righ have been
[46:08] violated by the federal
[46:09] government. Not hypothetically,
[46:11] literally. And I just don't
[46:12] think that risk is worth it at
[46:14] thistime. And maybe in
[46:16] partnership with council member
[46:16] chavez, we can make sure that we
[46:18] have really strong legal
[46:21] protections if ts does move
[46:21] forward. But again, this does
[46:23] ha to come back for a final
[46:25] vote. But I don't even want t
[46:28] entertain it at this time given
[46:29] that conte. In fact, I would
[46:31] make a motion to forward this
[46:33] without recommendation. If
[46:34] there's a second for that.
[46:39] » second.
[46:48] » counc member vetaw.
[46:49] » thank you, chair. I don't
[46:51] know if I'm allowed, but my
[46:53] question really is for council
[46:55] member chavez. Because I do
[46:56] think you get to ask whatever
[46:59] question you want. To council
[47:01] member chavez, the question is
[47:03] you raised the point about like
[47:05] what we're required to do. With
[47:09] the contract. And I've been
[47:11] waiting for close to two years
[47:14] fo dollars to be released from
[47:16] the federal administration based
[47:18] on language that they, like,
[47:21] very specific language that was
[47:23] used in a contract for a
[47:24] railroad grant that literally
[47:26] had nothing to do with
[47:29] immigration services. And so
[47:30] they hadctual language in this
[47:32] contract that said we needed to
[47:36] work with ice, essentially, to
[47:42] litigate that for almt two
[47:43] years. I mean, it was very
[47:44] specific. It was not vague at
[47:46] all. There was no question what
[47:48] ey were requiring for us to
[47:50] do, and that is why we rejected
[47:52] the grant. So maybe to the city
[47:54] attorney, I mean, the things
[47:56] th have been in litigation
[47:58] have been very clear about like
[48:03] the federal government for us to
[48:06] receive money, I thought.
[48:11] » through the chair, council
[48:12] member vetaw, so I believe
[48:13] you're talking about the
[48:16] connecting camden grant which I
[48:18] still pending.
[48:19] » yes.
[48:20] » and it did have language in
[48:22] this pertaining to ice and
[48:24] immigration enforcement.
[48:26] specifically, some of the
[48:27] similar terms to what we saw
[48:28] here. And we do have an active
[48:31] injunction that would prohibit
[48:35] your point, negotiated those to
[48:37] terms out to that grant so tt
[48:40] the grant is still not complete,
[48:41] to your point. We are still
[48:43] waiting for final signature on
[48:46] that grant. But the draft of the
[48:49] grant that is the most recent
[48:50] grant does have an exception to
[48:54] those terms due to the lawsuits
[48:56] we negotiated.
[48:57] » I guess what I'm trying to
[48:59] get at here is none of this
[49:01] money we want to compromise what
[49:03] we feel as a city. Not only was
[49:06] the connecting camden grant,
[49:09] which was extremely important to
[49:11] this community, rejected by the
[49:13] administration, think anything
[49:14] else that came in with that sort
[49:16] of language has been rejected.
[49:18] and we worked as a city
[49:19] enterprise to make sure we don't
[49:24] compromise oselves or the
[49:25] residents like that. I feel like
[49:27] I need to ask this because the
[49:29] questions keep coming up. Like
[49:30] is ts going to be the same
[49:33] thing for everything that we g
[49:35] from the federal government? Are
[49:37] our city attorneys and the mayor
[49:39] and the council going to
[49:41] continue to fight the same way
[49:43] we have since this
[49:46] administration took office? Like
[49:47] is tt the commitment from all
[49:48] of us and the city attorney's
[49:53] compromise who we are as leaders
[49:55] and let something slip through?
[49:56] I don't think that that's the
[49:57] case here. And so I'm okay with
[50:00] supporting this because I know
[50:02] how many conversations I've had
[50:06] with not only the attorneys
[50:07] folks that are suing along with
[50:10] our city in lawsuits similar.
[50:12] other citie who've had to sue,
[50:14] that we've had to model what
[50:15] they've done. The mayor's
[50:18] office. My colleagues that we
[50:20] won't compromise who we are as a
[50:22] city to receive money from the
[50:23] federal government at all. Like
[50:26] I think that's been clear since
[50:27] day one. That we will not do
[50:31] that. We're not going to
[50:47] comprose our residents. We've
[50:48] done a good job of expressing
[50:51] that not how we roll around
[50:52] here. So I don't think that
[50:54] anyone would come into this
[50:56] chambers before this body,
[50:57] before the mayor, before the
[50:58] city attorney's office with
[51:00] something that they think would
[51:03] compromise what we've stated
[51:04] very clearly on our own personal
[51:07] platforms, professional
[51:10] thing we've done in the last
[51:15] year and a half of this entire
[51:17] administration has been around,
[51:18] we're standing together as a
[51:19] city. And if the one thing we
[51:21] can agree on fighting, its
[51:24] this administration, especially
[51:25] when they're comprising who we
[51:28] are as minneapolis. So I'm happy
[51:30] move forward with this. I'm
[51:32] also confident in that if
[51:34] something came up not only with
[51:36] the city attorneys, the police
[51:38] department, know you all
[51:40] certainly don't want another
[51:41] scandal on your hands. And so
[51:44] I'm certain that folks will com
[51:47] and talk to us if something is
[51:49] out of order here. But we have
[51:52] think about what this does
[51:53] for -- what this grant will do
[51:55] forhe community, especially
[51:56] when we're in a budget crisis
[51:58] right now. Like what we're
[52:00] talking about here. If this
[52:02] grant can assist us in a
[52:05] financial crisis, then I think
[52:06] we should at least try. I
[52:08] something comes up that is
[52:10] compromising us, then I'm with
[52:12] council member chavez, I say no,
[52:16] period. Thank you.
[52:17] » thank you. Next, we'll go to
[52:20] council member whiting.
[52:23] » thank you, chair chowdhury.
[52:25] and probably a few questions. I
[52:30] think we're speaking about
[52:31] prram and kind of grants. I'm
[52:33] trying to get a dper
[52:34] understanding of wha we have
[52:36] before us and what this grant
[52:38] applicatio process looks like.
[52:39] and so for kind of the language
[52:41] that council member chavez is
[52:42] speaking to, and I think all of
[52:44] us have concerns about, within
[52:47] the kind of nofo, the notice of
[52:50] funding opportunity, can you --
[52:55] at which you can, can you speak
[52:56] to us about what nofos are
[52:59] broadly and where this language
[53:01] isoming from?
[53:02] » sure. Through the chair,
[53:05] council member whiting, nofos
[53:07] are notes of funding
[53:10] opportunity. They are documents
[53:11] put out by the federal
[53:13] government and governments at
[53:17] various levels providing
[53:21] sometimes competitive and
[53:22] sotimes uniform grant
[53:23] opportunities. So any interested
[53:27] party can read the nofo and
[53:30] submit an application to receive
[53:31] grant funding. So this
[53:33] particular nofo is for the -- I
[53:37] forget the name. It is long. The
[53:40] national integrated ballistic
[53:42] information modernization
[53:43] program through the department
[53:45] of justice. And t funding for
[53:48] that program, the nibin program,
[53:52] for short, com fm a recently
[53:56] passed section of trump's I
[54:00] believe it's the one big
[54:02] beautiful bill. The particular
[54:04] section of that bill that
[54:07] thorized this grant program
[54:09] and funding has language in it
[54:10] related to various things that
[54:12] the grant funding can be used
[54:13] for. And among those things are
[54:21] uses such as enhancing the
[54:24] capacity of governments to
[54:27] locate and apprehend quote
[54:33] aliens who have committed -- and
[54:36] languages that council member
[54:36] chavez read. Those are types of
[54:38] uses that are allowable under
[54:40] that authorizing statute. They
[54:42] ar not the only uses of funding
[54:45] allowable under that statute.
[54:48] » thank you. And just so I can
[54:49] kind of clarify it in my mind.
[54:51] these kind of nofos allow for a
[54:54] purpose of funding and these
[54:58] are, to couil member chavez's
[55:01] point, language in here that
[55:02] will allow f avenues such as
[55:07] apprehend aliens or illegal
[55:10] aliens as noted in the nofo.
[55:12] but there is nothing that
[55:13] requires in either the nofo or
[55:16] an attached mou, there's nothing
[55:18] that requires this grant to be
[55:22] used for those specific
[55:23] purposes.
[55:23] » that's correct. The section
[55:25] that council member chavez read
[55:27] from was from the first section
[55:28] of the nofo. The purposes. But
[55:32] that is not the section that is
[55:35] required use of funding. Goals
[55:38] and objectives of this funding
[55:40] sectn that includes more
[55:43] specific targeted uses of the
[55:45] funds, and then as I'm sure my
[55:47] colleagues would be able to tell
[55:51] you more out, as an applicant,
[55:54] you provi a program narrative
[55:55] of how you intend to use the
[56:00] funds that comports with those
[56:01] goals and objectives.
[56:03] » that's really helpful. Thank
[56:07] you for the clarification.
[56:07] » thank you. Next, we'll go to
[56:10] council member warren.
[56:12] » thank you, chair. I want to
[56:16] support this because I
[56:18] understand the importance of
[56:20] ballistic testing, and I really
[56:23] want to solve the unsolved
[56:26] murders and homicides and acts
[56:28] of violee that have
[56:30] perpetuated violence throughout
[56:32] our community. I understand that
[56:34] it is something that is
[56:36] uncomfortable because aot of
[56:37] times we don't suspect that some
[56:40] of our neighbors who appear to
[56:42] be one way towards us can be
[56:45] anothe way towards something
[56:46] else. A I don't know here in
[56:51] the state of minnesota, I've
[56:53] never seen an alien before in my
[56:54] life. Okay. I've never seen a
[56:59] spaceship pull up. I've never
[57:02] seen anybody green jumpp off
[57:04] of there or anything of that
[57:06] sorts. But if they come here and
[57:10] cutting up, need to know
[57:12] there's something put in place
[57:13] where we can dl with those
[57:16] people accordingly. I know there
[57:18] are individuals who are
[57:19] committi crimes, like I said
[57:21] before, we did not suspect
[57:23] beyond a shadow of a doubt that
[57:27] that was something they would be
[57:28] doing. They appeared one way to
[57:30] us and they do something else
[57:33] somewhere else. Marilyn manson,
[57:35] great person. Wonderful dad. All
[57:36] of these gre things. But then
[57:39] a heinous serial killer doing
[57:44] something else. You just never
[57:46] know. But if this machine and
[57:47] this equipment and these
[57:49] testings a going to prove that
[57:52] someone was involved or they're
[57:53] able to trace it back to
[57:56] firearms like I want to keep the
[57:58] focusn that part of solving
[58:00] crimes because I just really
[58:02] want safer communies. And if
[58:03] it means that we're going to end
[58:06] up apprehending some individuals
[58:07] who are even in law enforcement
[58:09] or apprehending individuals who
[58:11] are in other fields of public
[58:13] safety or people who are doing,
[58:15] then guess what? Nobody is
[58:17] without being reproved. I'm just
[58:18] going to say that. So if there's
[58:20] some things that need to be done
[58:23] in order to clean up our justice
[58:25] system and ensure that we are
[58:28] charging people appropriate with
[58:29] the crimes that they have
[58:31] committed and accountability is
[58:32] going to be present, then sign
[58:36] me up twice. I don't believe in
[58:40] individuals bng targeted
[58:42] around any type of immigration
[58:45] status at all whatsoever. Do not
[58:46] target anyone based on their
[58:49] citizenship or anythin like
[58:50] that. But like I said, I've
[58:52] never have seen an alien before
[58:53] in my life. So I don't know who
[58:57] this grant application thing is
[59:00] calling aliens because I've
[59:00] never seen any. But if there are
[59:02] people who are committing crimes
[59:04] who are doing things out here
[59:06] that they have no business
[59:08] doing, then those people need to
[59:09] be dealt with accordingly. And I
[59:11] was hoping that there was a plan
[59:13] in order to get them off of the
[59:15] street so that other people can
[59:16] go on with their natural lives.
[59:19] that's what I have to say. And
[59:21] so I'm interested in supporting
[59:24] it because I want crimes solved.
[59:26] I do. There is a lot of
[59:30] situations with unsolved murders
[59:32] and childr and young people
[59:32] and elders and people who have
[59:35] been harmed and injured by
[59:38] firearms, and I just want any
[59:40] y that we can figure out who's
[59:44] responsible for that, then let's
[59:46] go with that method of making
[59:48] sure that we are holding people
[59:50] accountable for the cmes that
[59:50] they've committed.
[59:52] » thank you.
[59:53] » the end.
[59:55] » thank you. Next I'll
[59:56] recognize council member chavez.
[59:58] » thank you, chair chughtai. I
[1:00:01] think the fedal government
[1:00:02] when they're saying aliens,
[1:00:07] they're referring to
[1:00:08] undocumented immigrants. I just
[1:00:10] want t provide the context
[1:00:12] they're explicitly naming
[1:00:18] undocumented neighbors as aliens
[1:00:20] and illegal. I will be working
[1:00:24] with the city attorney's office
[1:00:25] to share the language that I
[1:00:27] have draft on a resolution
[1:00:28] that I will be attaching to this
[1:00:31] nofo that literally condemns the
[1:00:34] way our undocumented neighbors
[1:00:35] are being called on in this
[1:00:38] document that put requirements
[1:00:39] on this, if we were to move
[1:00:43] forward with seeking this grant
[1:00:45] asking for written clarification
[1:00:47] from this agency on if they
[1:00:50] would interpret our separation
[1:00:52] ordinance being in violation if
[1:00:54] we would seek this. What they
[1:00:57] woul mean by dhs notice.
[1:01:00] whether they would interpret us
[1:01:02] accepting this grant, us
[1:01:04] violating our civil rights
[1:01:05] ordinance because cil rights
[1:01:06] is mentioned in this nofo, and
[1:01:08] other stuff that I think we need
[1:01:10] to have written clarification
[1:01:11] from. Because what I don't
[1:01:13] believe is the federal
[1:01:14] government. They have known to
[1:01:16] lie about coming to minneapolis
[1:01:18] to address cre, but what
[1:01:19] they're doing is taking innocent
[1:01:22] moms, fathers and ds away from
[1:01:23] our city. I want to make sure if
[1:01:25] folks are going to move forward
[1:01:27] with this, I'm going to attach a
[1:01:29] resolution because I have the
[1:01:31] responsibility to represent my
[1:01:33] constituents and making sure the
[1:01:37] could be impacting our hing that
[1:01:38] residents.
[1:01:39] » thank you. Next, I'll
[1:01:41] recognize council member
[1:01:41] shaffer.
[1:01:42] » yes, I'll be brief. Thank
[1:01:44] you, council member chavez for
[1:01:46] sharing your heart. And I'll
[1:01:47] look forward to seeing wt you
[1:01:49] bring forward around this
[1:01:50] resolution. And if it's
[1:01:52] something that we can indeed
[1:01:54] attach, I appreciate that work.
[1:01:57] I aed today I have to say on
[1:01:59] the heels of ward 7 being on the
[1:02:01] border of what happened this
[1:02:03] week and the tremendous
[1:02:06] violence, this is something I
[1:02:07] have to support. We see what
[1:02:14] this technolog brings to
[1:02:16] insight for mpd in trying to
[1:02:17] find out the perpetrators of
[1:02:19] some of these crimes. And we
[1:02:22] cannot have this bece the norm
[1:02:23] on our streets. We need these
[1:02:25] tools to be able to find those
[1:02:28] who are committing these heinous
[1:02:31] crimes. And get them off the
[1:02:32] streets. And so I will be
[1:02:35] supporting this. I'm a little
[1:02:40] surprised at the conversation.
[1:02:41] but will be following up with
[1:02:43] the city attorney's office to be
[1:02:45] able to understand what our
[1:02:46] process is. But I just really am
[1:02:51] grateful for the thoughts today.
[1:02:54] » thank you. Seeing no further
[1:03:02] discussion, is there a motion on
[1:03:03] this item?
[1:03:06] » I moved for forwarding
[1:03:08] without recommendation. That was
[1:03:10] seconded.
[1:03:10] » great. I'm  not seeing anyone
[1:03:17] else in discussion. So on the
[1:03:21] motion, clerk, please call the
[1:03:22] roll.
[1:03:22] » council member payne.
[1:03:24] » aye.
[1:03:25] » rainville.
[1:03:26] » ay
[1:03:28] » vetaw.
[1:03:28] » aye.
[1:03:29] » warren.
[1:03:30] » aye.
[1:03:31] osman.
[1:03:31] » aye.
[1:03:33] » shaffer.
[1:03:33] » aye.
[1:03:34] » chavez.
[1:03:35] » aye.
[1:03:36] » whiting.
[1:03:36] » aye.
[1:03:37] » palmisano.
[1:03:38] » aye.
[1:03:38] » vice chair chughtai.
[1:03:40] » aye.
[1:03:40] » and chair chowdhury.
[1:03:41] » aye.
[1:03:42] » there are 11 ayes.
[1:03:45] » that motion carries. Our next
[1:03:49] discussion item is a staff
[1:03:52] directive fr council member
[1:03:53] shaffer and vice chair chughtai.
[1:03:54] it is related to the budget
[1:03:57] process and analyzes other
[1:03:59] factors. Do either one of the
[1:04:01] authors want to speak more to
[1:04:02] this item? Council member
[1:04:04] shaffer.
[1:04:05] » yes. This is just a staff
[1:04:08] directive. As we head into our
[1:04:10] budget season looking at what
[1:04:11] other cities, other processes
[1:04:13] might be hpening that we can
[1:04:15] look at to glean informati
[1:04:19] from. And have talked with lro
[1:04:22] aff about this and I've
[1:04:23] invited andrew to come and give
[1:04:25] just a brief couple minute
[1:04:28] overview of where this direction
[1:04:31] would head.
[1:04:31] » welcome, up, mr. Hoggins.
[1:04:45] » thank you, chair chowdhury,
[1:04:48] vice chair chughtai, my name is
[1:04:52] andr hoggins. The staff
[1:04:54] direction resembles a lot of the
[1:04:56] pieces that we see in staff
[1:04:58] directions lro in that it asks
[1:05:00] uso understand what is the
[1:05:02] landscape of the legislative
[1:05:04] budget process as it exists in
[1:05:07] comparable cities and pull out
[1:05:08] any examples that would benefit
[1:05:11] the council for consideration as
[1:05:13] we kinda head into this
[1:05:16] transition following the mayor's
[1:05:18] budget address and delivery on
[1:05:20] the 24th of august to the budget
[1:05:22] coittee. We wanted to make
[1:05:23] sure we're being timely to get
[1:05:25] this information t council for
[1:05:27] consideration in advance of that
[1:05:29] timeline so that any tools that
[1:05:30] we observe across other
[1:05:32] jurisdictions and comparable
[1:05:34] bodies to legislative research
[1:05:35] and oversight are able to be
[1:05:38] considered and kind of adopted
[1:05:39] for use in this process. This
[1:05:42] should come to no surprise to
[1:05:44] anybody this will be a
[1:05:45] challenging budget process. One
[1:05:47] thing that there seems to be
[1:05:48] quite a bit of agreement on.
[1:05:50] om our standpoint, anything we
[1:05:52] can do to support this body with
[1:05:55] considerations as this process
[1:05:56] begins is something that we want
[1:05:57] to pursue. Thank you.
[1:05:59] » thankyou. Is there any
[1:06:00] further discussion on this item?
[1:06:03] all right. Seeing none, can I
[1:06:05] have a motion on this item?
[1:06:07] » so moved.
[1:06:10] » second.
[1:06:11] » all those in favor say aye.
[1:06:12] » aye.
[1:06:13] » those opposed say nay. That
[1:06:14] motion carries. All right. Now
[1:06:26] we will return to our receive
[1:06:27] and file portion of our agenda.
[1:06:29] our first presentation is about
[1:06:31] the city council's work so far
[1:06:33] in 2026. I'll welcome up andrew
[1:06:37] hoggins again from the
[1:06:39] legislative research oversight
[1:06:40] team for this presentation.
[1:06:45] » all right. Hello agn. I
[1:06:48] won't introduce myself twice. So
[1:06:50] for this presentation I think
[1:06:52] the one thing you'll probably
[1:06:53] notice is going to be different,
[1:06:55] starting in 2026, the role of
[1:07:00] reporting back of the report, we
[1:07:01] took the first quarter of this
[1:07:04] year tomplement the dashboard
[1:07:06] that you're going to see linked
[1:07:11] and qr coded and will linked to
[1:07:13] our website shortly. How we can
[1:07:15] make this more transparent,
[1:07:18] provide more information about
[1:07:19] all the different items that are
[1:07:21] coming through our legislative
[1:07:25] it's committees for ncil and
[1:07:26] consideration on any given week.
[1:07:28] this presentation focuses a lot
[1:07:29] more on kind of what that
[1:07:31] process looks like and
[1:07:32] highlighting some of the items
[1:07:33] that are going to be included. I
[1:07:35] think subsequently for quarterly
[1:07:37] reports we'll be able to focus
[1:07:39] on expanded functionality and
[1:07:42] additional date points and do a
[1:07:44] culminating report at the end of
[1:07:46] the year. However, for the
[1:07:47] purposes of this one, it's
[1:07:50] almost deliberely light
[1:07:54] because we're trying to drag
[1:07:55] people to the dashboard itself.
[1:07:58] to get feedback and make sure
[1:07:59] we're improving as we go. So
[1:08:05] again, like a lot of our work,
[1:08:06] our key reasons for taking this
[1:08:09] approach with public
[1:08:10] transparency, having public
[1:08:13] facing dashboard, accessibility
[1:08:15] for residents as well as
[1:08:16] council. It also reduces a
[1:08:19] burden on entities. Council
[1:08:22] offices that have issued
[1:08:24] legislative directive, when our
[1:08:26] office of city auditor brings
[1:08:28] back audit reports that have
[1:08:30] findings.
[1:08:30] historically there have been
[1:08:33] challenges trying to tck down
[1:08:36] the status of those. Remediedy
[1:08:38] the appropriate departments. And
[1:08:41] so I think making this
[1:08:44] transparent and acceptable
[1:08:46] simplifies that.he ability to
[1:08:47] call that stuff out when we see
[1:08:49] there's things that have been
[1:08:52] outstanding for quite some time.
[1:08:53] just again, the one data point I
[1:08:56] did include to highlight, 774
[1:09:01] total council acts. 520 action
[1:09:04] ems. The action items break
[1:09:06] down into a number ofifferent
[1:09:08] ways to cut across these. I
[1:09:10] think we're still working on
[1:09:11] what's the most impactful. We
[1:09:14] certainly can throw out all
[1:09:16] different kinds of stats. But
[1:09:17] it's important to work with the
[1:09:21] figure out what's important and
[1:09:22] what people are the most
[1:09:22] interested in tracking and how
[1:09:25] we break that out accordingly.
[1:09:27] this year, obviously due to the
[1:09:29] situation created b operation
[1:09:30] metro surge, like the shift to a
[1:09:32] lot of what would he normally
[1:09:35] gone through committees to this
[1:09:37] committee created challenges.
[1:09:41] that's something that we're
[1:09:42] try
[1:09:43] forward. Similarly for the
[1:09:52] legislative directive and staff
[1:09:53] directive tracking that we're
[1:09:56] doing, we have our lros
[1:09:59] dashboard is directly plugged
[1:10:01] into lims. Unfortunately, in is
[1:10:04] the one area where we still
[1:10:05] don't have the ability to get
[1:10:07] updates on the status through
[1:10:09] lims. I should also say thank
[1:10:11] you to amalia from the office of
[1:10:13] public service, and tim from it
[1:10:16] for their help pulling all this
[1:10:17] together and getting everything
[1:10:19] published in time to ensure we
[1:10:21] had a public facing dashboard
[1:10:24] for accessibility today. For the
[1:10:27] ongoing directives that we're
[1:10:29] tracking, right now, and again,
[1:10:32] I noticed a couple that
[1:10:33] somemes they come through in
[1:10:34] different formats based on
[1:10:37] modifications to the request.
[1:10:38] we're always going to be going
[1:10:40] through this to make sure
[1:10:40] everything is reflective. Always
[1:10:43] feel free to reach us out and we
[1:10:45] can make sure it's added. But we
[1:10:51] have ocs quarterly updates.
[1:10:54] tec
[1:10:56] closes so we're trying to figure
[1:10:57] out how to capture that
[1:10:59] correctly. I know the
[1:11:01] shotspotter will be returning in
[1:11:05] q4 along side the audit record
[1:11:07] on the similar topic. The south
[1:11:13] lyndale master corridor program.
[1:11:15] I'm presenting that one. The
[1:11:17] non-fatal shooting task force.
[1:11:18] there was a quarterly report
[1:11:20] ju
[1:11:22] one that's going to continue to
[1:11:24] come back. We' trying to find
[1:11:25] a way in the dashboard itself.
[1:11:30] e
[1:11:31] if you want to find on these
[1:11:32] that I'm goi to point out on a
[1:11:35] later slide. The ones I wanted
[1:11:46] to highlight. The residential
[1:11:48] ordinance. Three-part series.
[1:11:50] th first was on 5/13. 8/15 is
[1:11:56] the next. And then I know the
[1:12:02] thrive strategic development
[1:12:04] plan has a date of 9/30. Moving
[1:12:07] in to staff directives. We had
[1:12:10] six that had been completed from
[1:12:12] january 1st to now. For the
[1:12:15] eight that areeing tracked. I
[1:12:18] know we have a couple other ones
[1:12:21] that need to get added in here.
[1:12:22] I can speak to the ones from
[1:12:24] lro. For the crter compliance,
[1:12:30] municipality oversight. That one
[1:12:33] is ongoing. Charter is q3
[1:12:35] target. The public safety
[1:12:39] policies and practices, that one
[1:12:41] tually is coming forward to
[1:12:46] phc next cycle. Presentation in
[1:12:46] august. And payment in lieu of
[1:12:50] taxes is also targeting
[1:12:53] august 25th. And autonomous
[1:12:55] vehicle is currently on cue for
[1:13:00] assignment. Dashboard using the
[1:13:01] link assuminghere's internet
[1:13:03] in here, everybody should be
[1:13:06] able to access.t continues to
[1:13:08] be updated. It pulls in a lot of
[1:13:10] data. Any time that you have a
[1:13:13] lot of different data sources,
[1:13:14] you're going to have kind of
[1:13:15] clean up and beautification
[1:13:17] efforts that I'm sure we'll be
[1:13:18] doing for a little bit. We also
[1:13:19] have a lot of function alma
[1:13:21] mater that we want to continue
[1:13:23] building out. Cutting across
[1:13:24] different communities so we can
[1:13:25] dive in to what's happening
[1:13:28] across different committees to
[1:13:29] give people the most insight
[1:13:31] that we're able to for things
[1:13:32] that areither going through
[1:13:34] council, that are coming in the
[1:13:36] future, or that we jt
[1:13:37] completed. What you see here,
[1:13:39] this is the preview review page.
[1:13:41] this is the first tab that
[1:13:43] people will see when they go to
[1:13:45] this dashboard. The purpose of
[1:13:47] this it looks forward 14 days
[1:13:50] and backward 14 days just to
[1:13:52] give people an idea for what's
[1:13:54] coming in the future. All of
[1:13:57] these items, if you cli the
[1:13:58] more info tab on the right side,
[1:14:01] we do have links tthe lims
[1:14:02] files themselves. Next, we have
[1:14:06] the council directive status.
[1:14:09] this pulls from a different data
[1:14:11] source but trying to track all
[1:14:12] the directives we have
[1:14:14] outstanding. Allow people to see
[1:14:16] who the responsible department
[1:14:18] was. If you hover over the tab
[1:14:19] on the right, it has responsive
[1:14:21] information at least for the
[1:14:23] ones that are outstanding. Those
[1:14:25] will contain the latest updates
[1:14:29] from the departments themselves.
[1:14:31] this is something that will keep
[1:14:33] evolving and we want to color
[1:14:35] code. Flags that turn re
[1:14:36] yellow, green, et cetera. And
[1:14:41] last, you have the lims file
[1:14:42] search. So again, this is
[1:14:45] similar to seahing lims. It
[1:14:46] has a different functionality. I
[1:14:48] think we're going to add fields
[1:14:50] in there that you can search by
[1:14:53] ju to find legislative files.
[1:14:55] when you open it up, it will
[1:14:57] everything from the entirety of
[1:14:58] this year. If you search the
[1:15:01] lims file number or subject file
[1:15:03] field by any subject you're
[1:15:04] looking for, it will limit that
[1:15:06] to anything that will be
[1:15:07] responsive to that search. Next
[1:15:11] steps, landing page. So we want
[1:15:13] to have a home page that
[1:15:16] outlines what's covered.
[1:15:18] how to use this dashboard and
[1:15:20] provide more information. We're
[1:15:22] going to continue added updates
[1:15:24] so this is updated in real time.
[1:15:27] it also does sort of encourage
[1:15:29] people that might have
[1:15:30] outstanding directives to be
[1:15:32] updating that information as
[1:15:33] much as they can because it will
[1:15:35] automatically go into the
[1:15:37] dashboard itself and reflect to
[1:15:39] anybody that's interested. And
[1:15:40] exnsion of functionality that
[1:15:41] I talked about.
[1:15:43] ensure we're being deliberate
[1:15:44] about how w build it out.
[1:15:46] having a tab that exists where
[1:15:48] we can track audit findings and
[1:15:50] their responsible department and
[1:15:52] committee they're assigned to
[1:15:53] will allow members of that
[1:15:54] committee to ask those questions
[1:15:56] when they come up so we're
[1:15:58] ensuring the city is being
[1:16:00] deliberate about how it's
[1:16:00] responding to audit findings.
[1:16:04] with that, that concludes my
[1:16:06] presentation. I'm happy to
[1:16:07] answer any questions there might
[1:16:08] be.
[1:16:09] » tha you so much, andrew.
[1:16:11] members, would anyone like to
[1:16:12] get into queue? President payne.
[1:16:15] » thank you, chair chowdhury.
[1:16:19] and tnk you, director hoggins.
[1:16:21] I think this transparency is so
[1:16:24] helpful. I think our day-to-day
[1:16:26] is such a whirlwind it's nice to
[1:16:30] take a step back, zoom out and
[1:16:32] see what's getting accomplished
[1:16:33] and what we're working on. That
[1:16:36] goes a long way towards building
[1:16:38] trust and faith in what we do
[1:16:40] here in the government.
[1:16:41] appreciate your efforts on that.
[1:16:43] » thank you. One quickhing I
[1:16:45] can share too just from talking
[1:16:47] to staff with the wild card
[1:16:50] search. There's so much that
[1:16:51] happens that we can lose sight.
[1:16:56] somebody brought up, I don't
[1:16:58] think we've done much with that
[1:16:59] this year. I pulled up the
[1:17:01] dashboard. I think there were
[1:17:03] nine different legislative files
[1:17:04] that came up on that topic this
[1:17:05] year. It's a good opportunity
[1:17:07] for people if they're interested
[1:17:08] in any specific topic to
[1:17:10] research all the legislative
[1:17:11] files to see what you all are
[1:17:13] doing and follow along.
[1:17:16] » wonderful. Next, we will go
[1:17:21] to council member shaffer.
[1:17:23] » couple things. Can you speak
[1:17:25] to the data format underneath
[1:17:27] e item wildcard search? I get
[1:17:31] this query functns at the top.
[1:17:33] but then for some reason can you
[1:17:35] speak to what we see underneath
[1:17:37] that and the value of seeing all
[1:17:41] that?
[1:17:41] » yup. Through the chair,
[1:17:44] council member shaffer, so this
[1:17:45] is something where again tha
[1:17:49] pulls from lims. There's a lot
[1:17:53] data. There's a lot in the
[1:17:58] more info tab. So if you hover
[1:18:01] over that it will open a box.
[1:18:03] we're still organizing that and
[1:18:06] everything. It's the lims file
[1:18:08] number. Which is legislative
[1:18:09] information management stem.
[1:18:10] it will have the file subject.
[1:18:11] the action date is going to be
[1:18:13] the date that the action was
[1:18:14] taken. So that's where you'll
[1:18:16] see it in action. Those columns
[1:18:18] reflec the titles as they exist
[1:18:20] in lims. It's something where I
[1:18:22] want to update them. But when I
[1:18:25] start editorializing those, it
[1:18:29] affects other things. That's
[1:18:30] something I need to be more
[1:18:31] deliberate. It will show the
[1:18:33] committee that the action was
[1:18:33] taken. And so also if you click
[1:18:38] on the more info on the
[1:18:40] dashboard itself, there should
[1:18:42] be a link that pops up on the
[1:18:43] bottom of the bble that takes
[1:18:45] you to the actual lims file for
[1:18:47] each respective one. The reason
[1:18:50] these were picked is to show
[1:18:51] where things are moving thugh.
[1:18:53] obviously, this year being
[1:18:54] unique where we had
[1:18:57] coolidation of things in to
[1:18:58] cow for a while, there's not
[1:19:00] going to be as many different
[1:19:02] committees reflected as there
[1:19:03] would normally be. As we go
[1:19:06] forward, that would be populated
[1:19:08] now that committees are running
[1:19:09] in their normal capacity. What
[1:19:11] this does that's interesting,
[1:19:12] just for the tailgating
[1:19:15] ordinance, is it really does
[1:19:17] show the life cycle of some of
[1:19:19] these items. Like the sometimes
[1:19:23] complex route they can take from
[1:19:25] introduction to referral and all
[1:19:26] the way back to council for
[1:19:28] ultimately for consideration for
[1:19:29] adoption.
[1:19:30] » okay. So it's kind o a
[1:19:31] scrolling function. If you know
[1:19:33] approximately it happened in
[1:19:34] february but I don't know
[1:19:35] exactly the word to pull it up
[1:19:38] on query.
[1:19:40] » correct. I think the date
[1:19:42] function was one that we can add
[1:19:43] as well. But the lims file
[1:19:45] subject. I mean, you can really
[1:19:47] go in and type in anything. So
[1:19:48] if you wanted to look at -- I'm
[1:19:50] trying to think what have we
[1:19:53] been doing. Safe outdoor spaces.
[1:19:55] if you type that in to the lims
[1:19:57] file subject, every file that
[1:19:59] hits with those words will come
[1:20:00] back. And if you want just
[1:20:02] looking at housing, looking at
[1:20:04] public safety. You could keyword
[1:20:05] search it. As long as it's in
[1:20:07] the file subject as well as the
[1:20:09] item title, it will pull back
[1:20:11] all of those results. So
[1:20:13] sometimes, again, we know
[1:20:14] roughly what we're looking for
[1:20:16] but we don't know exactly, it
[1:20:17] can often be hard to go back and
[1:20:19] identify those items.
[1:20:21] I know ourctual lims site has
[1:20:24] some search functionality. But
[1:20:26] this one operates a little
[1:20:29] differently. It's quicker to
[1:20:31] scroll through because it
[1:20:32] doesn't have a lot of
[1:20:33] information in the dashboard
[1:20:34] itself. It will take you to the
[1:20:36] full lims file.
[1:20:37] » thank you so much for all
[1:20:38] your work on this. It will be
[1:20:39] interesting. Can you speak a
[1:20:41] little bit to what's your vision
[1:20:42] for year-to-year? Like will this
[1:20:46] all collapse into 2026ut it
[1:20:48] will all -- you do a query it
[1:20:51] will all pull up ongoing years?
[1:20:53] what's your vision?
[1:20:54] » that's a wonderful question.
[1:20:56] this is definitely something we
[1:20:59] want to keep building. More is
[1:21:05] more. So though 26, 27, 28. It
[1:21:08] was hard getting it to display
[1:21:10] in a way that was digestible is
[1:21:12] when we have committees that can
[1:21:13] change names. It will start to
[1:21:16] display a lot more. Sometimes
[1:21:22] comparison. Committee a to
[1:21:23] committee b in another cycle. I
[1:21:25] think trying to fige out how
[1:21:27] to add in even historical data
[1:21:29] is something we want to do. This
[1:21:31] is something we intend to
[1:21:33] continue to accumulate data as
[1:21:35] we move forwd.
[1:21:36] » it's very exciting and thank
[1:21:38] you for all your hard work.
[1:21:39] » absolutely.
[1:21:40] » thank you. I am not seeing
[1:21:43] anyone else in queue. So I will
[1:21:49] presentation and report. Now
[1:21:53] we'll move to item 5. We have
[1:21:57] another presentation to receive
[1:21:58] related to our appointed boards
[1:22:01] and commission status. I will
[1:22:03] invite up julie hofland from the
[1:22:06] city clerk's office to kick this
[1:22:08] presentation off. Lcome.
[1:22:16] » all right. Good afternoon
[1:22:19] vice chair chughtai and
[1:22:20] committee members, I'm julie
[1:22:23] hovland, the abc program
[1:22:25] manager, and I'm excited to
[1:22:28] share our progress on board
[1:22:28] reform. The city of minneapolis
[1:22:36] values active community
[1:22:37] engagement. Appointed boards and
[1:22:40] commissions are one of the most
[1:22:42] visible ways for residents to
[1:22:43] take part in local government.
[1:22:45] because abcs are official cy
[1:22:48] groups, their work must align
[1:22:49] with the city's operational
[1:22:52] framework and their own enabling
[1:22:59] legislation. Abc reform is about
[1:23:00] making it easier and more
[1:23:04] participate in city government.
[1:23:05] it gives abcs a clear structure
[1:23:09] to their work and it makes their
[1:23:10] work stay aligned with city
[1:23:12] priorities. It also supports
[1:23:15] smoother, more meaningl
[1:23:18] collaboration between elected
[1:23:19] officials, city staff and abc
[1:23:20] bodies. Every abc has now been
[1:23:30] placed into a tier. Most of our
[1:23:31] work has focused on tier three
[1:23:36] and four advisory bodies.
[1:23:37] improvements such as creing
[1:23:38] and actively using standardized
[1:23:44] templates for participation
[1:23:45] agreements, bylaws rules, and
[1:23:48] establishing resolutions. Other
[1:23:53] accomplishments worth
[1:23:56] highlighting. We created and
[1:23:58] published comprehensive abc
[1:24:01] operations manual with all
[1:24:02] policies, procedures, and
[1:24:03] standards regarding abcs in one
[1:24:06] place. We also completed major
[1:24:09] lims updates, adding much needed
[1:24:12] tomation and new tracking
[1:24:14] features for waivers and service
[1:24:16] restrictions. New member
[1:24:18] profile was developed and
[1:24:20] launched. The required online
[1:24:22] ethics training is now aligned
[1:24:24] with members appointed terms.
[1:24:27] the training itself was
[1:24:29] redesigned to improve the member
[1:24:31] experience and ensure content is
[1:24:32] more relevant. A mayoral
[1:24:36] executive order was secured
[1:24:38] affiing the office of city
[1:24:40] clerk as the central agency
[1:24:41] responsible for abc operations.
[1:24:44] we delivered a comprehenve
[1:24:47] training course for department
[1:24:49] board staff liaisons focusing on
[1:24:51] abc operations, best practices
[1:24:55] and collaboration with the
[1:24:57] clerk's office. To track
[1:24:59] recurring acvities, we created
[1:25:01] an annual abc operations
[1:25:03] calendar. We revamped monthly
[1:25:10] bsl team meetings to include a
[1:25:13] mix of quarterly group meetings
[1:25:15] paired with one on one sessions
[1:25:17] and tech labs. In 2025, we
[1:25:21] created the establishment of
[1:25:23] eight tier 3 advisory bodies and
[1:25:26] created one tier 4 work group.
[1:25:29] following remaini tier 3
[1:25:32] bodies will be reformed this
[1:25:33] year. Looking ahead to 2027, we
[1:25:36] plan to reform our tier 2 and 5
[1:25:39] bodies. These will be more
[1:25:40] complex because they are
[1:25:42] establishe by ordinance rather
[1:25:42] than resolution. Like all
[1:25:49] developing programs, challenges
[1:25:50] have emerged. One of our biggest
[1:25:54] pinchpoints in the abc program
[1:25:56] is managing recruitment cycles.
[1:25:59] an area not directly addressed
[1:26:00] in the reform ordinance. This
[1:26:03] sle shows the assumed
[1:26:07] recruitment process two cycles
[1:26:10] spring and fall. Each cycle
[1:26:13] includes about seven steps from
[1:26:15] advertising a seat during open
[1:26:16] appointments to having a fully
[1:26:18] seated member ready to serve.
[1:26:20] one cycle takes about seven
[1:26:23] months. Abc recruitment works a
[1:26:25] lot like an hr hiring process.
[1:26:27] we typically process over 400
[1:26:31] applications a year. However, in
[1:26:36] reality, we are managing three
[1:26:39] recruitment cycles: winter,
[1:26:40] spring and fall, plus many, many
[1:26:42] off-cycle appointments. This is
[1:26:46] caused by unsuccessful
[1:26:49] recruiting, resignations, seat
[1:26:51] forfeitures and other factors.
[1:26:57] the nominating and appointment
[1:26:59] processes is in backlog. With
[1:27:01] only 12 months in a year and a
[1:27:05] process that can stretch for
[1:27:07] more than 12 months, delivering
[1:27:10] a positive experience. In 2027,
[1:27:11] we hope to work with our
[1:27:13] partners to find ways to improve
[1:27:16] this system. Other items
[1:27:21] underway for next year include
[1:27:26] orientation program, improving
[1:27:28] how we vet applicants, enhancing
[1:27:31] the on boarding and off boardg
[1:27:33] experience for abc members, and
[1:27:36] standardizing work plans and
[1:27:44] committee members, that u,
[1:27:45] concludes my presentation on abc
[1:27:47] reform. I'd be happy to answer
[1:27:49] any questions.
[1:27:50] » thank you for that
[1:27:51] presentation. Do my colleagues
[1:27:54] ha any questions or
[1:27:55] discussion? Cncil member
[1:28:00] whiting.
[1:28:01] » thank you, vice chair
[1:28:04] chughtai. Just wanted to note
[1:28:05] just a level of thank you. I
[1:28:06] know this is a large lif here.
[1:28:09] I know I helped kind of on the
[1:28:11] opposite end when I was in the
[1:28:13] city attorney's office and know
[1:28:14] the large lift that com with
[1:28:15] all of these abcs broadly. It is
[1:28:18] really good to see the
[1:28:20] culmination of a lot of effort.
[1:28:22] just wanted to say thank you.
[1:28:24] » thanks.
[1:28:24] » of course.
[1:28:25] » thank you. Next, I'll
[1:28:27] recognize counc president
[1:28:29] payne.
[1:28:29] » thank you, vice chair
[1:28:32] chughtai. Yeah, also a big
[1:28:34] thanks. So much of your work is
[1:28:36] focused on logists. And I also
[1:28:38] want to elevate the role of abcs
[1:28:41] and what the potential is to
[1:28:42] be part of our partners in
[1:28:45] governg. Part of our partners
[1:28:46] in policymaking. And I think
[1:28:48] there are s many people in the
[1:28:49] city who are so civically
[1:28:52] engaged and they are frequently
[1:28:55] up at city hall and don't know
[1:28:57] that it's not an opportunity to
[1:28:58] do a public hearing or even for
[1:29:00] the folks who sign up to be on
[1:29:03] an abc and they don't know
[1:29:06] exactly how to get their voice
[1:29:09] represented in policy. Not only
[1:29:10] for us to get the logistics of
[1:29:12] getting people onboarded and
[1:29:14] getting applications reviewed,
[1:29:16] we on the dais need to do a
[1:29:18] better job of making sure we're
[1:29:19] emwering those voices and
[1:29:21] putting them into action. I
[1:29:24] many phases of reform that's ver
[1:29:25] going to be at least one
[1:29:27] distinct phase. And I'm happy to
[1:29:29] be a partner in figuring that
[1:29:31] out.
[1:29:31] » yeah. I appreciate that.
[1:29:33] flsh.
[1:29:33] » thank you. And finally, I'll
[1:29:36] recognize cncil member warren.
[1:29:37] » thank you, vice chair. Thank
[1:29:40] you so much for this report.
[1:29:45] this and just simplifying the
[1:29:48] process. I really appreciate
[1:29:49] that because coming in as a new
[1:29:52] council member, it was pretty
[1:29:55] tasking to look through the
[1:29:56] applications and have to, you
[1:29:59] know, decide and understand and
[1:30:00] go through the whole process.
[1:30:03] so to centralize the information
[1:30:07] and create a whole -- thank you
[1:30:08] so much. I just wanted to say
[1:30:10] thank you. Yes.
[1:30:11] » hank you. Seeing no further
[1:30:12] discussion, I will ask the clerk
[1:30:15] to file that presentation and
[1:30:16] report. Now I will turn the
[1:30:20] meeting over to council member
[1:30:22] whiting to chair our settlement
[1:30:25] agreement subcommittee. I'm
[1:30:26] sorry. I'm going to hold on that
[1:30:28] justne second. Did you have?
[1:30:36] » [ off-mic comnts ].
[1:30:37] » that's right. Perfect. Okay.
[1:30:45] now we'll turn the meeting over
[1:30:47] to council member whiting.
[1:30:49] » perfect. Thank you, vice
[1:30:52] chair chughtai. Switching on
[1:30:56] over to our settlement agreeme
[1:30:58] and consent decree subcommittee.
[1:31:01] our consent decree and
[1:31:02] settlement agreement
[1:31:03] subcommittee has two items on
[1:31:05] its agenda today. First is a
[1:31:07] presentation related to an
[1:31:08] update on implementing the
[1:31:10] reforms within the proposed
[1:31:12] consent decree. I'll invite our
[1:31:16] city attorney kristyn anderson.
[1:31:20] thank you.
[1:31:21] » hello, chairwhiting, council
[1:31:24] members, it's nice to see this
[1:31:27] afteoon. It's been a bit of
[1:31:29] time since I've been able to
[1:31:30] come and be on this side of the
[1:31:32] is. I'm always please to come
[1:31:36] and make aresentation. My
[1:31:36] presentation today is really an
[1:31:39] update on the work that the
[1:31:41] enterprise has been doing on
[1:31:43] implementing the reforms of the
[1:31:44] consent decree. And just for
[1:31:47] kind of baseline for folks who
[1:31:50] are new and/or watching, we have
[1:31:53] two things that are kind of in
[1:31:56] play in terms of police reform:
[1:31:59] one is an actual court
[1:32:00] enforceable settlement agreement
[1:32:01] with t minnesota department of
[1:32:04] human rights that we entered
[1:32:05] into and was issued as a court
[1:32:08] order in july of 2023. Again,
[1:32:11] court enforceable, we have been
[1:32:14] working on that project of
[1:32:17] police reform really frankly
[1:32:19] from before then once it was
[1:32:24] negotiated. But also there was
[1:32:25] an investigation by the
[1:32:32] resulted in a negotiation for
[1:32:36] federal consent decree. A
[1:32:40] agreement over the course of, I
[1:32:43] mean, actually, we negotiated it
[1:32:46] pretty fast. And completed the
[1:32:49] negotiations and went to court
[1:32:51] with the department of justice
[1:32:53] during the biden administration
[1:32:55] asking for t court to issue
[1:32:58] that as a court order and then
[1:33:00] there was the change of
[1:33:04] administrations and the trump
[1:33:06] administration actually
[1:33:07] dismissed the lawsuit and walked
[1:33:08] away from the consent decree. So
[1:33:11] mayor frey determined that
[1:33:12] although we weren't going to
[1:33:14] have a federal consent decree in
[1:33:16] court, it w important to still
[1:33:17] do the reforms that we had
[1:33:20] negotiated in that consent
[1:33:21] decree. And so he issued an
[1:33:27] executive oer requiring the
[1:33:28] administration to implement the
[1:33:30] reforms in the consent degree
[1:33:35] and those reforms are really
[1:33:37] defined as reforms that are not
[1:33:39] in conflict with those that
[1:33:40] exist in the settlement
[1:33:42] agreement. So we really have the
[1:33:48] settlement agreement, and there
[1:33:49] are provisions above and beyond
[1:33:51] the settlement agreement that
[1:33:52] are enforceable by an executable
[1:33:55] order by our mayor. And so we
[1:33:57] ve been working on
[1:33:58] implementing those additional
[1:34:01] provisions. Another sort of
[1:34:02] grounding thing I want to talk
[1:34:04] about is between the settlement
[1:34:06] agreement and consent decree,
[1:34:09] there are multiple subject
[1:34:11] matters that are covered in
[1:34:12] both. There are a few additional
[1:34:14] subjec matters that are covered
[1:34:16] in the consent decree that are
[1:34:18] not included in the settlement
[1:34:20] agreement. But in the settlement
[1:34:23] agreement, for example, in both
[1:34:25] documents, there's a whole
[1:34:26] section on use of force. And the
[1:34:29] settlement agreement requires
[1:34:30] certain things. And then the
[1:34:32] consent decree reforms require a
[1:34:33] few more things on top of that.
[1:34:35] so kind of in our implementation
[1:34:38] work around this, we start with
[1:34:39] theettlement agreement as
[1:34:42] being our baseline. And the way
[1:34:44] that we sort of building this
[1:34:52] reform infrastructure, it start
[1:34:53] with creation of policy,
[1:34:54] creation of training, then
[1:34:55] actually doing the training, and
[1:34:59] then holding officers
[1:35:00] accountable to those policies
[1:35:02] and the things that they train.
[1:35:04] at the ground level of this
[1:35:06] infrastructure, we are building
[1:35:07] policies that are grounde in
[1:35:10] the settlement agreement. But as
[1:35:12] long as we are doing the
[1:35:13] settlement agreement, we are
[1:35:15] baking those consent decree
[1:35:17] additional reforms into those.
[1:35:22] in the kind of examples that I'm
[1:35:25] going to give you are working in
[1:35:28] the frame. That we're creating
[1:35:42] are compliant with both. So I'm
[1:35:47] going to start with my slide. In
[1:36:20] the consent decree, it required
[1:36:23] more of the settlement agreement
[1:36:24] and required that officers not
[1:36:26] only not consider race and
[1:36:29] national origin in their
[1:36:34] policing decisionsut also --
[1:36:42] unless there are descriptor of a
[1:36:44] suspect and there is additional
[1:36:46] identifying information. So
[1:36:48] that's one example. Use of force
[1:36:51] policies are actually a number
[1:36:52] of things from the consent
[1:36:54] decree that we added on to the
[1:36:55] use oforce policies. And in
[1:36:58] fact, while we were negotiating
[1:37:00] the consent decree, as we were
[1:37:03] negotiating things along, we
[1:37:05] were starting to incorporate
[1:37:06] some of these higher standards
[1:37:07] into our policy work under the
[1:37:09] settlement agreement anyways. We
[1:37:11] don't have a lot of situations
[1:37:13] between the two agreements that
[1:37:15] conflict because as we were
[1:37:16] negotiating the doj consent
[1:37:21] decree,e were very mindful. We
[1:37:24] wanted to be consistent in what
[1:37:27] actually saw between the two,
[1:37:28] the provisions that the
[1:37:31] department of justice wanted
[1:37:33] were in many, many respects
[1:37:35] exactly identical to what the
[1:37:38] mdhr wanted. I think because
[1:37:40] both of them saw some of the
[1:37:42] same things and one of tm had
[1:37:45] federal jurisdiction and the
[1:37:46] other had state jurisdiction,
[1:37:47] the reforms were connsconsisten
[1:37:52] let's say that. We had a lot of
[1:37:54] the same ground. There was just
[1:37:56] not a lot of conflict because we
[1:37:58] as the city's negotiators me
[1:38:00] sure that we were not going to
[1:38:06] wind up with -- in use of force,
[1:38:12] several things have bn --
[1:38:15] limitations on use of chemical
[1:38:16] spray of people in the car. --
[1:38:43] we've -- flr
[1:39:25] -- after review by either
[1:39:28] higher level supervisors or
[1:39:28] review body. Then body worn
[1:39:34] camera. Another policy that we
[1:39:35] had open in order to do the work
[1:39:40] for the mdhr agreement and add
[1:39:43] from the consent decree that
[1:39:44] there is a self-reporting
[1:39:48] requirement now.
[1:40:17] [ please stand by ]
[1:52:23] if you could speak to the mpd
[1:52:29] limitations of hours worked,
[1:52:30] this is the last slide that
[1:52:31] you gave us the update on
[1:52:33] today.
[1:52:33] is the new limitation on hours
[1:52:34] worked, and I know you named a
[1:52:36] couple of numbers, the 16
[1:52:38] hours in a day or in a 24-hour
[1:52:41] period, and there was a second
[1:52:42] one, I can't remember, but is
[1:52:44] this consistent with a
[1:52:46] previous policy on limitation
[1:52:48] of hours worked?
[1:52:49] is it the same number of hours
[1:52:50] or has anything changed that
[1:52:52] you can tell -- that you might
[1:52:53] be able to tell us about?
[1:53:00] » it is consistent.
[1:53:02] my recollection is that it is
[1:53:03] consistent with what the
[1:53:05] settlement agreement required
[1:53:05] as well.
[1:53:06] I can't tell you as I stand
[1:53:09] here whether there were slight
[1:53:10] differences between the
[1:53:11] settlement agreement and the
[1:53:12] consent decree, but it is -- I
[1:53:16] believe it's the same hour
[1:53:17] threshold that was articulated
[1:53:19] in the settlement agreement.
[1:53:20] so, it is now incorporated in
[1:53:23] that policy.
[1:53:24] I also can't tell you if that
[1:53:25] policy right now is in draft
[1:53:27] or if it's been adopted.
[1:53:31] and I could follow up with you
[1:53:32] on that.
[1:53:34] but it's 16 hours per 24-hour
[1:53:36] day and 74 hours per week.
[1:53:39] » sounds good.
[1:53:39] thank you very much.
[1:53:40] th's all.
[1:53:44] » council member shaffer.
[1:53:47] first of all, thank you for
[1:53:48] this overview, with broad
[1:53:52] strokes, to kind of narrow it
[1:53:53] down with each of the
[1:53:54] categories, I really
[1:53:55] appreciated your mhod of
[1:53:56] presentation.
[1:53:56] I would like to ask the
[1:53:57] question around, you know,
[1:53:59] have we determined or tught
[1:54:01] about the financial impact of
[1:54:03] some of these directions that
[1:54:06] we are earking on and have
[1:54:13] we ld out a framework for
[1:54:15] 2027 -- or 2027, yeah, 40
[1:54:17] hours times x number of
[1:54:19] employees of additional
[1:54:20] training is going to land in
[1:54:21] april '27, we need to consider
[1:54:23] overtime budget for that.
[1:54:25] can you speak a little bit to
[1:54:27] how we -- how we are
[1:54:30] monitoring where our
[1:54:31] investments are landing so
[1:54:32] that we can better plan for
[1:54:35] them and tell the story, if it
[1:54:36] is related to ourvertime,
[1:54:39] I'm not saying it necessarily
[1:54:40] is, but I think we -- I keep
[1:54:42] hearing abo all the various
[1:54:45] high levels of training that
[1:54:46] we're really tryingo
[1:54:48] implement, which are really
[1:54:49] important, but I haven't heard
[1:54:51] anything about budget or
[1:54:52] fiscal impact.
[1:54:57] » chair, counc member, I'm
[1:55:01] not the best person to ask the
[1:55:03] budgetary questions.
[1:55:04] what I can say, the particular
[1:55:05] training that I was talking
[1:55:06] about is training for
[1:55:08] inveigators in the office of
[1:55:09] police conduct review, which
[1:55:11] is in civil rigs, and
[1:55:14] internal affairs.
[1:55:15] I don't know how much, you
[1:55:17] know, overtime those folks
[1:55:20] would normally incur as a
[1:55:21] normal course, and I think for
[1:55:23] this kind of training, it's
[1:55:25] really a very finite and small
[1:55:27] group, and the training would
[1:55:29] be incorporated into their,
[1:55:30] you know, regular work
[1:55:32] expectations.
[1:55:34] so this training itself would
[1:55:36] not --
[1:55:37] » maybe not this one, but
[1:55:38] more o a cumulative impact as
[1:55:40] we look back.
[1:55:41] I just think that piece of the
[1:55:43] story needs to be told in our
[1:55:45] overtime if it is, in fact,
[1:55:47] affecting that.
[1:55:47] and I just have no visibility
[1:55:49] on that.
[1:55:50] heading into the budget
[1:55:51] season.
[1:55:51] and I think it's really
[1:55:53] important that,.
[1:56:00] in case it is.
[1:56:01] and when you have a work plan,
[1:56:02] it doesn't just come for free,
[1:56:04] ght, we've got the alifa
[1:56:07] dollar amount, that's known
[1:56:08] but beyond that I feel like I
[1:56:10] don't have any handle on what
[1:56:11] that is costing us last year,
[1:56:12] this year, the next ten years,
[1:56:17] and I'm just wondering when
[1:56:19] that's coming.
[1:56:20] » chair whiting, council
[1:56:22] member, certainly -- I mean,
[1:56:23] you're absolutely right that
[1:56:25] the ttlement agreement
[1:56:26] requires a huge amount of
[1:56:28] training for officers and,
[1:56:30] frankly, I don't know how else
[1:56:32] we could do this police reform
[1:56:34] if not for the training.
[1:56:38] you know, we can develop and
[1:56:40] we do develop really awesome
[1:56:41] policies but ifhe officers
[1:56:43] don't know what they say and
[1:56:45] practice them, whichs really
[1:56:47] what happens in training, and
[1:56:51] forgive me, because I don't
[1:56:53] know that we've had that many
[1:56:55] conversations about settlement
[1:56:56] agreement consent decree, but
[1:56:56] one of the kind of, for the
[1:57:01] settlement agreement, and the
[1:57:03] consent decree, there's this
[1:57:03] really cool, in my view,
[1:57:06] emphasis on adult training
[1:57:07] techniques.
[1:57:08] at are really, you know,
[1:57:10] everybody who instructs for
[1:57:13] mpd training has to themsels
[1:57:14] go through a train the tripper
[1:57:18] exercise training in order to
[1:57:20] learn how t teach using adult
[1:57:22] learning techniques.
[1:57:28] and these are verycenario
[1:57:30] based, sometimes they're
[1:57:32] literally physically running
[1:57:33] outside.
[1:57:34] that kind of training is the
[1:57:35] kind of training that, really,
[1:57:38] police reform advocates really
[1:57:40] are stressing because this is
[1:57:41] the way that we change
[1:57:43] culture, this is the way we
[1:57:45] make muscle memory so that
[1:57:47] when officers get in
[1:57:50] ecarious situations, it's
[1:57:54] natural to reactn the right
[1:57:55] way.
[1:57:55] so the training, it's a
[1:57:59] huge -- yes, it's a huge
[1:58:01] investment and it's, in my
[1:58:02] view, absolutely needed.
[1:58:04] what the exact budgetary
[1:58:06] impact and how that's being
[1:58:08] tracked I think is really a
[1:58:11] budget office question.
[1:58:12] » well, I've asked about it
[1:58:14] several different places and
[1:58:15] seem to not be able to get an
[1:58:17] answer.
[1:58:17] and I absolutely agree with
[1:58:18] you that training is key to
[1:58:20] seeing chae, right?
[1:58:23] but also with us being the
[1:58:24] stewards of -- a I know I'm
[1:58:25] not speaking to the right
[1:58:26] person here, but for us being
[1:58:28] the stewards of the budget,
[1:58:29] for us not to have that
[1:58:31] information is really -- is
[1:58:34] really amiss in my mind.
[1:58:37] as we tell the story that w
[1:58:38] know or we'll have to hear the
[1:58:40] story in upcoming months about
[1:58:41] what's going on in m.
[1:58:44] and, so, maybe we can speak
[1:58:48] off-line and I can tell you
[1:58:49] the places I've checked and I
[1:58:50] haven't been able to get
[1:58:51] answers so I need some more
[1:58:53] direction.
[1:58:54] » council member shaffer, if
[1:58:56] I may, too, feel exactly the
[1:58:58] so we were in these quarterly
[1:59:00] meetings that I'm going to
[1:59:01] speak to on this next item, in
[1:59:03] conversation with ocs and
[1:59:05] other folks, we are going to
[1:59:06] have that opportunity that
[1:59:08] folks from the budget office
[1:59:09] and those related to
[1:59:11] settlement agreement, consent
[1:59:12] decree items are going to be
[1:59:13] present and there for
[1:59:14] questions.
[1:59:14] so hopefully I think that will
[1:59:16] be an avenue or venue to
[1:59:18] answer those questions.
[1:59:19] » my only final point to
[1:59:21] make, whenever you start on a
[1:59:22] journey, you have to
[1:59:23] understand where you're going.
[1:59:27] and knowing that budget piece
[1:59:28] would be a huge help in
[1:59:29] knowing where we're going.
[1:59:35] » thank you.
[1:59:36] council member chavez.
[1:59:37] » thank you, chair whiting.
[1:59:38] I guess my question for the
[1:59:41] attorney's office, the recent
[1:59:44] report shows that they're not
[1:59:45] meeting their goal I
[1:59:47] settlement agreement, which is
[1:59:48] going to add more expense for
[1:59:49] the city because we're not
[1:59:50] meeting the goals and it's
[1:59:52] making us take longer time in
[1:59:53] the settlement agreement.
[1:59:54] iuess my question is, what
[1:59:56] recourse does the city council
[1:59:58] have to ensure that there is
[1:59:59] compliance with the settlement
[2:00:00] agreement?
[2:00:01] and, two -- yeah, I guess I'll
[2:00:03] start there.
[2:00:06] » chair whiting, council
[2:00:09] member, the council doesn't
[2:00:11] di the administration.
[2:00:14] obviously.
[2:00:14] you know, we he reporting
[2:00:16] tools and I think that that
[2:00:17] is, you know, a really
[2:00:20] important accountability item.
[2:00:21] you know, as I mentioned
[2:00:22] before, the ordinance tt
[2:00:26] council president payne
[2:00:29] introduced and will be coming
[2:00:31] soon.
[2:00:31] so you know, the council's
[2:00:34] tool oftentimes is in
[2:00:37] informion and in making
[2:00:40] information publicly available
[2:00:42] and available in committee
[2:00:43] meetings and committee
[2:00:44] hearings and heari those
[2:00:47] reports and, you know, you're
[2:00:49] having alifa come so you have
[2:00:51] a really good handle on what
[2:00:53] our independent monit, and
[2:00:55] remember, they are -- I mean,
[2:00:56] they don't work for us, we
[2:00:59] work -- which is sort of a
[2:01:01] strange situation that we're
[2:01:02] paying for them but they are
[2:01:04] really our overseers in this
[2:01:05] work and they are the ones
[2:01:06] with the expertise and are
[2:01:09] really gauging our
[2:01:11] accountability.
[2:01:12] so, you know, we are paying
[2:01:14] them.
[2:01:15] 's a catch rate of $1.5
[2:01:20] llion, but they are really
[2:01:21] the accountability, as well as
[2:01:22] the minnesota department of
[2:01:23] human rights and ultimately
[2:01:23] the court.
[2:01:25] » thank you.
[2:01:30] » council member warren.
[2:01:32] » I just have a brief
[2:01:33] question.
[2:01:34] I was listening to you in your
[2:01:35] presentation and you were
[2:01:35] talking about howhere were
[2:01:38] alternate means and methods
[2:01:40] for individuals to report
[2:01:43] internal affairs complaints,
[2:01:44] you know, and I was just
[2:01:46] wondering with the current
[2:01:48] situation that happened with
[2:01:51] our previous police chiefs,
[2:01:52] why those alternate means were
[2:01:53] not utilized and is it
[2:01:55] something that people are
[2:01:56] going to be made consciously
[2:01:58] aware of as we're moving
[2:02:01] around administration in
[2:02:04] multiple different departments
[2:02:05] around public safety in the
[2:02:06] city that people will have
[2:02:07] these alternate means to be --
[2:02:11] to really feel supported,
[2:02:15] rit, in their role so that
[2:02:16] they know and understand that
[2:02:17] if I do not feel safe and
[2:02:19] trusted in sharing this
[2:02:21] information or I'mn fear of
[2:02:23] some type of retaliation that
[2:02:25] these things will be readily
[2:02:26] made available and that
[2:02:28] they're actively working to
[2:02:31] support individuals and create
[2:02:33] a better climate and culture
[2:02:34] for our public safety
[2:02:37] divisions as it stands
[2:02:38] currently?
[2:02:39] » chair whiting, council
[2:02:40] member, so, tre are actually
[2:02:42] multiple multiple ways to
[2:02:45] ise concerns, whether it be
[2:02:47] through the internal affairs
[2:02:48] department, the office of
[2:02:50] police conduct review has
[2:02:53] reporting portals thatre on
[2:02:55] the web, human resources
[2:02:58] receives reports, the
[2:02:59] officer -- sorry -- officer --
[2:03:02] the office of cmunity safety
[2:03:03] receives reports, and the
[2:03:05] ethics line actually is, you
[2:03:06] know, we oftentimes get it
[2:03:09] reports through the ethics
[2:03:10] line that are not actually
[2:03:12] ethics complaints but there
[2:03:14] are multiple different ways to
[2:03:16] get a concern to the city.
[2:03:17] » and are those often
[2:03:21] responded to and people are
[2:03:22] adhering to them like acting
[2:03:25] in some immediacy around the
[2:03:27] investigatioof those things?
[2:03:29] » chair whiting, council
[2:03:31] member, yes.
[2:03:32] there are processes, there are
[2:03:34] folks who are assigned to all
[2:03:35] of those things and processes
[2:03:38] in place for intake and review
[2:03:42] of -- in each different
[2:03:43] methodology.
[2:03:43] » really?
[2:03:44] » yes.
[2:03:44] » a those have been in
[2:03:45] place for quite some time?
[2:03:48] » yes.
[2:03:49] » okay.
[2:03:50] I'm just wondering, just based
[2:03:53] on previou experiences that
[2:03:54] we've just had, and I'm not
[2:03:56] naming any names or any
[2:03:58] specific situation, but we
[2:04:00] know the elephant in the room,
[2:04:01] so I just want to make sure
[2:04:03] that those things are like
[2:04:05] clear so that people
[2:04:07] understand because I know that
[2:04:08] there were some issues with
[2:04:11] internal affairs officers
[2:04:13] being removed and different
[2:04:15] things like that and stuff not
[2:04:17] getting done and people not
[2:04:19] getting the resolve or the
[2:04:20] resolution that they needed
[2:04:22] around a number of different
[2:04:23] issues.
[2:04:24] I just really want us to be
[2:04:26] able to work bette and have a
[2:04:29] better climate and culture
[2:04:31] around our public safety
[2:04:34] because what our interoffice
[2:04:36] customer service and
[2:04:38] communication looks like
[2:04:40] reflects on how we respond to
[2:04:42] the constituents in the city
[2:04:44] abroad, right?
[2:04:45] and, so, if that's clean and
[2:04:48] our house islean, then we
[2:04:50] can have conversations with
[2:04:52] other people about whatheir
[2:04:53] house and behaviors should
[2:04:54] look like.
[2:04:56] so I just really want --
[2:04:58] that's huge to me, like,
[2:05:00] really really big.
[2:05:02] and ensuring that we're doing
[2:05:06] deep-rooted investigations
[2:05:07] about who we let into our
[2:05:08] house, right?
[2:05:10] because of the culture and the
[2:05:12] climate that we want to hold
[2:05:13] around our public safety and
[2:05:15] what that accountability looks
[2:05:16] like.
[2:05:19] so if there's smear
[2:05:20] campaigns -- and I know
[2:05:21] there's going to be haters in
[2:05:23] the world because there just
[2:05:24] is, okay -- but if there are
[2:05:26] things that are being said
[2:05:28] about conduct and what have
[2:05:29] you that there are deep-dive,
[2:05:35] very serious investigations
[2:05:35] beg done because we don't
[2:05:37] want other people's garbage.
[2:05:38] we just don't.
[2:05:39] so, I just want to make sure
[2:05:42] that there are methods, means,
[2:05:44] we're putng those things in
[2:05:45] place and you're saying that
[2:05:46] that's a thing.
[2:05:48] so I'm gone kdwb nah rest and
[2:05:51] assured that you're saying
[2:05:52] that's a thing, city attorney.
[2:05:53] the end.
[2:05:55] » thank you, council member.
[2:05:58] last question here, honestly,
[2:06:00] a little bit of maybe a
[2:06:01] refresher for me, and I think
[2:06:02] it's helpf for the body and
[2:06:03] those that are watching, if
[2:06:05] you could kind of just maybe
[2:06:07] talk broadly about the areas
[2:06:08] of work, bodies of work that
[2:06:11] are kind of outside of the
[2:06:12] settlement agreement.
[2:06:13] so things that d stand alone
[2:06:15] that are larger, in those
[2:06:18] laer buckets in the consent
[2:06:19] decree.
[2:06:19] » chair whiting, council
[2:06:22] members, so, the jurisdiction
[2:06:25] of the department of justice
[2:06:29] was significantly -- I mean,
[2:06:30] it's federal, right?
[2:06:31] they he broader jurisdiction
[2:06:33] than the state did and their
[2:06:35] vestigation was a little bit
[2:06:36] more wide ranging than mdhr's.
[2:06:41] so, the specific sections tha
[2:06:45] are in the consent decree tha
[2:06:47] are notn the settlement
[2:06:48] agreemen and I'm not going
[2:06:49] to get all of them because
[2:06:50] you're asking me off the top
[2:06:52] of my head, so let's
[2:06:54] remember -- see how well I
[2:06:56] remember what I negotiad.
[2:06:58] there's a section on
[2:07:02] addressing individuals with
[2:07:03] mental health challges that
[2:07:06] is -- you know, there's
[2:07:08] literally one paragraph in the
[2:07:09] settlement agreent about
[2:07:10] having a behavioral response.
[2:07:14] that's it.
[2:07:15] there's a whole really robust
[2:07:18] seion in the consent decree
[2:07:19] reforms on that.
[2:07:20] there's a robust section in
[2:07:22] the consent decree reforms on
[2:07:24] first amendment activity.
[2:07:27] you know, how policing happens
[2:07:30] with protests and those sorts
[2:07:32] of things.
[2:07:33] so that's unique.
[2:07:35] there is a section on
[2:07:36] secondary employment, what we
[2:07:37] think of as off-duty, some of
[2:07:41] which is kind of in pieces in
[2:07:43] the settlemen agreement but
[2:07:45] is its own standalone in the
[2:07:47] consent decree.
[2:07:50] those are the things that come
[2:07:52] to mind.
[2:07:53] there may be a couple of other
[2:07:55] ones, but those are really the
[2:07:57] significant ones.
[2:07:57] » perfect.
[2:07:59] thank you.
[2:08:02] youth engagement.
[2:08:03] » oh, yes, interactions wh
[2:08:05] youth.
[2:08:05] thank you.
[2:08:06] that's another one.
[2:08:06] » yeah, perfect.
[2:08:07] » and, again, there are a
[2:08:09] cole of pieces of that in
[2:08:10] the settlement agreement, but
[2:08:11] in terms of the standalone.
[2:08:15] see, council president knows
[2:08:16] what I negotiated better than
[2:08:17] what I did.
[2:08:18] sorry for the cold call,
[2:08:19] bringing you back to law
[2:08:21] school.
[2:08:21] with that, colleagues, seeing
[2:08:23] no further discussion here, I
[2:08:26] will ask the clerks to file
[2:08:28] that presentation.
[2:08:30] and rort.
[2:08:32] lastly, our last item here --
[2:08:35] and thank you, city attorney
[2:08:36] anderson.
[2:08:37] moving to subcommitteetem
[2:08:39] number 7, our last itemas
[2:08:41] continued from the previs
[2:08:43] meeting on july 14th.
[2:08:45] at that meeting we received a
[2:08:47] presentationrom elefa and
[2:08:49] this report covered the end of
[2:08:50] 2025, going into 2026.
[2:08:53] the action today is simply
[2:08:54] just to receive and file -- I
[2:08:56] guess not even receive but to
[2:08:58] file that elefa presentation.
[2:09:00] wanted to note here before we
[2:09:02] move forward on that.
[2:09:03] at that previous meeting, I
[2:09:04] know it was clear that many of
[2:09:05] my colleagues and myself had
[2:09:06] serious concerns about the
[2:09:08] questions and findings in
[2:09:11] elefa's most recent report.
[2:09:13] and concerns which I shared.
[2:09:16] I've express mr.ed to many
[2:09:17] of my colleagues aesire to
[2:09:20] reporting from mpd ocs, city
[2:09:23] attorney's office, opcr, I.t.,
[2:09:26] budgetary updates, and other
[2:09:29] departments as relevant, using
[2:09:32] this subcommittee as a
[2:09:33] mechanism to receive
[2:09:35] continuous quarterly
[2:09:36] results -- sorry -- quarterly
[2:09:38] updates on the city's progress
[2:09:40] towards meeting its
[2:09:41] commitments under the
[2:09:41] settlement agreement and
[2:09:43] consent decree.
[2:09:45] mpd currently holds weekly
[2:09:49] internal reform stat meetings
[2:09:50] where key stakeholders across
[2:09:51] the enterprise meet to walk
[2:09:53] through the status and
[2:09:54] progress of reforms related to
[2:09:56] the consent decree and
[2:09:57] settlement agreement.
[2:09:58] our goal here is to produce
[2:10:00] similar meetings for council,
[2:10:03] for that kind of oversight
[2:10:04] measure.
[2:10:05] my office has been in
[2:10:06] communication with mpd and ocs
[2:10:09] and every other city
[2:10:10] department which this work
[2:10:12] touches through the
[2:10:13] subcommittee and they've
[2:10:14] agreed to come before council
[2:10:17] to present our own reform
[2:10:20] stat-like meetings directly to
[2:10:21] th body, making themselves
[2:10:23] available to council members
[2:10:25] to answer questions or
[2:10:26] concerns surrounding the
[2:10:27] city's progress, both to
[2:10:28] include concerns raised by the
[2:10:31] semi-annual reports that elefa
[2:10:34] will be presenting in front of
[2:10:35] this body on a semi-annual
[2:10:37] basis as well.
[2:10:37] so the first of these
[2:10:39] presentaons will occur
[2:10:41] sometime here in august,
[2:10:44] depending on individual's
[2:10:46] schedules, both council 8
[2:10:48] colleagues' schedules and
[2:10:49] schedules of key stakeholders.
[2:10:51] so looking forward to a time
[2:10:53] here in august.
[2:10:54] did I say september?
[2:10:56] august.
[2:11:01] followed by presentations
[2:11:04] quarterl november, february,
[2:11:06] and may of this year and then
[2:11:07] next year as well.
[2:11:09] and so I'm very excited to
[2:11:09] move forward onhis.
[2:11:10] and want to thank many of my
[2:11:11] colleagues here for the
[2:11:14] collaboration and city half
[2:11:16] for oanizing this -- city
[2:11:19] heavy for organizing this.
[2:11:23] it looks like council member
[2:11:24] shaffer has a question.
[2:11:25] » this is top of my mind
[2:11:27] because I toured yesterday and
[2:11:28] I know I mentioned that to
[2:11:30] you, council member, as well.
[2:11:31] it was very clear when elefa
[2:11:34] spoke to us that we were
[2:11:35] responsible in providing a new
[2:11:36] training facility or an
[2:11:37] appropriate training facility.
[2:11:38] we heard them clearly that
[2:11:40] day in the presentation.
[2:11:41] and I had to leave early so I
[2:11:42] did not hav a chance to ask
[2:11:44] any further questions.
[2:11:45] but I guess I would like to
[2:11:47] know how we as a council are
[2:11:49] going to have an opportunity
[2:11:50] to dialogue about that fact
[2:11:52] because I agree with council
[2:11:54] member chavez that we are on a
[2:11:56] clock with elefa, that we have
[2:11:59] these imptant deadlines that
[2:12:01] we need to meet, and if that
[2:12:02] is one that they are clearly
[2:12:03] telling us, I guess I want to
[2:12:05] have a frank discussion, an
[2:12:07] open discussion, because I
[2:12:09] really want to move this work
[2:12:11] forte.
[2:12:12] like, how are we going to do
[2:12:13] that?
[2:12:14] if we voted down the land, you
[2:12:16] know, if we didn't like tt
[2:12:17] idea, then what ideas do we
[2:12:19] have that we can bring to the
[2:12:20] table?
[2:12:21] an I guess I'm asking when we
[2:12:22] can have an opportunity to
[2:12:24] dialogue about that?
[2:12:25] » yeah.
[2:12:25] inhinking about t I know
[2:12:26] we've kind of discussed this,
[2:12:29] trying to figure out the best
[2:12:31] venue to have these
[2:12:32] conversations as it relates
[2:12:34] to settlement agreement
[2:12:35] reforms and the compliance
[2:12:36] measures for that, I think
[2:12:38] particularly maybe to this
[2:12:43] briefings or policy briefings
[2:12:44] that we do in smaller group
[2:12:45] settings so we can have those
[2:12:46] larger discussions, but also I
[2:12:48] think it is something that can
[2:12:51] meetings as well.quarterly
[2:12:52] so the hope is that all of our
[2:12:55] questions -- a my kind of
[2:12:56] hope for these meetings is
[2:12:57] that all 13 of us can have a
[2:12:59] level of expertise on
[2:13:00] everything that is goi
[2:13:02] through the reform process
[2:13:04] broadly.
[2:13:05] so I think anything gero
[2:13:08] coent decree settlement
[2:13:09] agreement reform progress I
[2:13:10] think is open and valuableor
[2:13:13] conversations concerning
[2:13:14] those.
[2:13:14] » okay, thank you.
[2:13:15] » of course.
[2:13:16] council mb chavez.
[2:13:17] » thank you, chair whiting.
[2:13:18] it would be good to get a
[2:13:19] better explanation from elefa
[2:13:21] because that's not exactly how
[2:13:23] I interpreted what was said.
[2:13:24] I hope moving forwa in these
[2:13:26] conversations there's a report
[2:13:26] back on the internalffairs
[2:13:30] backlog in the consent
[2:13:32] decree -- no, in the
[2:13:33] settlement agreent, that is
[2:13:34] a big issue.
[2:13:36] there's an issue with the
[2:13:37] early intervention system I
[2:13:38] the settlement agreement
[2:13:39] requirement.
[2:13:39] there's an issue with uneven
[2:13:42] progress on policy and
[2:13:43] training development that's
[2:13:43] been flagged across multiple
[2:13:45] reports now.
[2:13:47] mdhr said the city remains far
[2:13:50] from transformational change.
[2:13:52] so there's a lot more than
[2:13:53] just this safety center.
[2:13:56] so wanted to add more context.
[2:13:58] » yup, thank you, council
[2:14:00] member.
[2:14:00] seeing no further discussions
[2:14:01] here, I will ask the clerk to
[2:14:04] again file that presentation.
[2:14:06] perfect.
[2:14:06] and with that, I will pass it
[2:14:10] over to chair.
[2:14:12] » thank you, council member
[2:14:15] whiting.
[2:14:15] seeing no further discussion,
[2:14:18] no further business before us,
[2:14:19] with no objtion, I will
[2:14:21] declare this meeting
[2:14:22] adjourned.