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» Good afternoon, and welcome

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to the regular meeting of the

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committee of the whole for

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monday, august 10, 2026.

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my name is you are rin

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chowdhury, and I'm the chair

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of this committee.

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I will call this regular

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meeting to order and ask the

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clerk to call the roll to

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verify the presence of a

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quorum.

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payne prent.

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» Wonsley is absent.

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» Vetaw.

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» Present.

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» Warren.

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» Present.

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» Osman is sbt.

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» Shaffer.

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» Present.

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» Stevenson is absent.

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» Chavez.

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» Present.

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» Whiting.

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» Present.

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» Palmisano is absent.

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vice chair chughtai.

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» Present.

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» And chair chowdhury.

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» There are nin members

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» Thank you, let the record

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reect that we have a quorum.

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before we start the meeting,

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that these meetings are

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broaast live to enable

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greater public participation.

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the broadcast include realtime

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captioning to increase

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so it's important thatll

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we ask all speakers to please

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moderate the speed and later

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colleagues, our anda is in

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and we are using speaker

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management, so please jump in

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if you have any amendments.

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I don't see any amendments.

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so I will move to adopt the

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agenda.

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is there a secon

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» All those in favor say aye.

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those posed say nay.

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the motion carries.

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we will start with our

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standing committee report,

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starting with the business,

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housing and zoning committee.

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and I will give the report, as

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the committee's vice chair.

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so the business, housing,

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zoning committee will be

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bringing 20 items forward to

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thursday's council meeting.

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item number 1 approves a

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permanent expansion of

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premises and sidewk way.

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item number 2 approves a

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permanent expansion of

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premises and sidewalk café for

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bills bait shop.

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item number 1 a resolution

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approving the minneapolis

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collecting a service charge.

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item number 4 appves two

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liquor licenses.

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item number 5 approves 15

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liquor licse renewals.

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item number 6 approves two

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item number 7 approves four

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gambli license renewals.

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item number 8 approves a

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rezoning application for the

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neighborhood development

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center at 2941 chicago avenue.

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approves an appointment to the

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minneapolis workforce

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development board.

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item number 10 authorizes a

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contract amendment for pizza

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project at the convention

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item number 11 accepts a bid

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for target sister's interior

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for the convention center

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concession stand's remodel

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item 13 approves a loan

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forgivess for the lindquist

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broadway avenue.

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ownership opptunity fund

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loan for the business.

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item number 15 amends a

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previous contract andment to

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item number 16 grants the 2026

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multijurisdictional agreement.

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item number 17 is a resution

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international association of

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dwelling license reinstatement

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nominating an appointment to

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the minnesota ballpark

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authority.

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and I'll note to members, this

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recommendation and the other

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thing that I would just

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highlight that would be good

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for folks to take a loo at is

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the resolution approvalsing

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the minneapolis improvement

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tourism district and the

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annual report they give.

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this is the first annual

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report that they gave to our

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committee following the

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ordinance that was passed last

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and just wanted to shout-out

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council member wonsley for

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authoring the improvement

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tourism district ordinance.

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members, are there any

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seeing none, we will now go to

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the climate and infrastructure

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be given by council member

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» Thank you, madam chair.

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the climate and infrastructur

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committee has 18 items to

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item number 1 is sidewalk

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repair and construction

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assessments.

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item 2.

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the gopher garden large

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block event permit for

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september 3, 2026.

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item 3 is the annual target

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tother, core week block

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event permit for september 14

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item 4 is the target together,

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celebration block event permit

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for september 16th, 2026.

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item number 5 is the loring

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item number 6 is mode by

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item 7 is contract amendment

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item 8 is nongovernmental tax

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item 10 is a contract

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amendment with st. Paul for

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agreement, item 11 is a

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reconstruction project.

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item 16 is a contract

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amendment for alliant

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related to zero waste funding.

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plan and I'll stand for any

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neu>> members, are there any

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council member warren.

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» I have a question.

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in our committee meeting,

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there were some presentations

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that we were going to take up.

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how are we doing that?

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is that going to happen in the

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» Great question.

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we aually do have it on our

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agenda today.

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it's item number 2, we moved

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contract with oncourse home

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solutions for asewer lateral

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insurance program here.

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an the chair for the climate

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and infrastructure plan should

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moved approval because it had

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been ptponed and it was justgoit

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slides, whh is attached to

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the rca.

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presentation because under the

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discretion of the vice chair.

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clarification.

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we will next go to the

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that report will be given by

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its vace chair -- advice

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» Thank you, madam chair.

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the enterprise and reb rib

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relations committee has six

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items t bring forward today.

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number 1 is authorize an

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agreement with the los angeles

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organizing committee for the

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city of minneapolis to serve

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as the host city for the l.a.

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028 summer olympic games flame

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d torch relay.

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item number  is a contract

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amendment with roshon

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corporation for the police

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department annex buildout

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project.

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item number 3 is a contract

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amendment with various

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entities to provide

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computer-aided dispatch and

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related mobile equipment

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support services.

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item number 4 is a legal

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settment for worrs

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compensation claim of heather

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bithal.

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item number 5 is approving the

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establishment of one appointed

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assistant city clerk position

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to support operational

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leadership within the

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legislative support division.

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and item number is

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confirming the city clerk's

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appointment of ken dahler to

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the appointed position of

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assistant city clerk for

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legislative support.

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I'll stand for questions.

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» If there are no questions

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for members, we will now move

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to the final report of the

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public health, safety and

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equity committee, given by its

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chair, council member chavez.

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» Tnk you, madam chair.

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the public health, safety a

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equity committee will be

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bringing forward nine items.

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item number 1 and 2 authorize

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a contract amendment with the

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burebureau of criminal

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apprehension for the human

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trafficking investigators task

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force, crime analyst and

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investigators.

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item 3 authorizes a contract

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amendment with canopy roots

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for behavioral crisis rponse

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services.

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item 4 accepts the public

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health emergency preparedness

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grant to support emergency

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preparedness activities.

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item 5 accepts the public

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health resnse sustainability

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grant, emergency response.

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item 6 accepts the minnesota

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department of public safety

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for bomb disposal equipment

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and training and authorizes an

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agreement for the grant.

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item 7, 8, 9 are gift

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acceptances for staff

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conference attends.

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and in the committee we also

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heard a report from the city

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trees program annual report.

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we heard a report from the

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minneapolis tree advisory

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commission, 2026, so that

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annual report.

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we also heard an update on the

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policy and procedures report

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from theolice department

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related to allison lusher and

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davis maturi.

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members of the committee gave

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feedback for a more thorough

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presentation next time.

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and then we also heard an

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update from our legislative

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research office regarding

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public safety policies and

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practices related to public

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gatherings and transparency

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where there was an outline of

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a variety of different

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recommendations.

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» Thank you council member.

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e there any questns on

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that report?

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seeing none,e wil now turn

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to the two items on our

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discussion agenda.

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our first discussion item is

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comingrom staff at cped and

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it is related to heritage

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park, deveping a voluntary

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relocation plan.

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I will have director hansen

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speak more on the item.

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and will just give the

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director a ltle bit of time

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to get set up and welcome.

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» Good afternoon, madam

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chair, members of the

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committee.

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my name is erik hansen, I am

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the director of community

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planning and economic

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development.

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and I'm here today to provide

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an update on heritage park,

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and specifically to present a

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proposed heritage park

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voluntary relocation plan

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policy.

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the purpose of this policy

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would provide eligible

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heritage park residents who

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have health or safety concerns

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with volunteer option to

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relocate.

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I'll walk through the current

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situation at heritage park,

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the proposed eligibility

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requirements, the relocation

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proces and the financial

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assistance that would be

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available through the policy.

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befo we get started I want

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to briefly update you on the

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heritage -- the status of

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heritage park.

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as I shared with you last

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month, heritage park is a

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444-unit mixed rental

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community in ward 5.

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that was developed in fou

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phases.

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currently only 211 units are

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occupied with an estimated

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popution of more than 680

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people.

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living in those units.

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heritage park hasoth rental

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and ownership unit as a master

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plan site.

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the map highlights the four

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phases of the rental project

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components that were owned in

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four subsidiary units.

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mbs built the rental housing

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between 2002 and 2006.

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there are several important

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developments that provide

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context to today's policy.

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heritage park continues to be

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in a court order receirship.

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the city continues to work

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with sertis and minneapolis

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public housing authority to

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coordinate responses to the

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conditions that I raised last

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time I was here to talk to you

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about this.

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lamonth you approved $2.5

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million for emergency repairs

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and relocation assistance.

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right after that the -- that

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approval, the emergency

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management department set up

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the heritage park coordination

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group.

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that group focused on

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identifying and respondg to

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urgent household-specific

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needs and working with the

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mpha, -- working the mpha and

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the receiver on outcomes.

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starting in august, cped

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resumed leadership of the

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coordination group at the

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process will require a

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sustaine effort -- sustained

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attention as we assess the

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long-term plan for

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rehabilitation and work

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with -- work through the

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process of relocation.

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one outcome of this initial

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work of the coordination group

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was the identification of the

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need for an approved policy

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for voluntary relocation to

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support the fdingved to

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assist residents who may want

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to relocate.

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now I'll go through the

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policy.

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the policy is intended to full

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an important gap.

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there are heritage park

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residents who may have health

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or safety concerns and may

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want to relocate.

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but who do not qualify for

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relocation assistance from

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other agencies.

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this policy provides voluntary

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relocation assistance for

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those eligibleouseholds.

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there are two primary

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components.

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first, there's a movin

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stipend to help cover the

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practical costs of moving and,

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second, there's a rent

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differential benefit that can

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help households managed the

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potential increased housing

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costs associated with moving

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to an appropriate replacement

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unit.

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taken together,he estimated

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support illustrated in this

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policy is approximately $6,500

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to $12,500 per household,

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depending on household size --

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household and unit si and

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actual rent differential.

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and I'll get into the details

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of that shortly.

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eligibility, eligible

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residents who have health or

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safety concerns can choose to

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relocate and receive

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assistance if they meet the

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policy requirements.

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choosing to receive 'benefits

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from this policy is voluntary

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and residen -- for residents

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that are not in mpha units.

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residents of mpha housing

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units are not eligible for

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these city benefits under ts

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policy.

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mpha residents will need to

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continue with them on

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transfers and available moving

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assistance from the mpha

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directly

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currently of the 211 occupied

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units, 128 are mpha units and

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83 household would be eligible

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for this policy.

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cped is working to contract a

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relocation consultant to

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perform the work with the

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residents.a household must recee

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eligibility approval from

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the -- from tt relocation

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consultant before moving.

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households receiving rental

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vouchers are eligible,

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although they wld need to

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consult their subsidy provider

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to understand whether

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accepting these benefits has

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any implication on their

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vouchers.

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there are several important

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dates in this polic

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a household must have legally

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occupied a heritage park unit

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as of july 18, 2026.

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that household then must

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report health or safety

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concerns to the city by

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october 15th of this year.

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and then the household must

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relocate outside of heritage

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park no later than january

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31st, 2027.

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there is a six-month extension

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that the cped director may

593
00:18:12,666 --> 00:18:16,000
provide to that moving

594
00:18:14,833 --> 00:18:21,966
deadline in case of hardship

595
00:18:16,233 --> 00:18:26,133
to provide some flexibility.

596
00:18:22,066 --> 00:18:29,666
the next component in this

597
00:18:26,266 --> 00:18:30,933
dividualized relocation

598
00:18:29,833 --> 00:18:32,366
assessment is the assesent

599
00:18:31,033 --> 00:18:33,833
services.

600
00:18:32,466 --> 00:18:35,233
eligible households will work

601
00:18:33,933 --> 00:18:36,333
directly with the city's

602
00:18:35,333 --> 00:18:37,633
relocation consultant to

603
00:18:36,433 --> 00:18:38,966
identify an appropriate

604
00:18:37,733 --> 00:18:39,700
housing option based on the

605
00:18:39,066 --> 00:18:42,533
individual circumstances of

606
00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,233
that household.

607
00:18:42,633 --> 00:18:45,200
that incdes household

608
00:18:44,333 --> 00:18:46,266
preferences, schooling and

609
00:18:45,300 --> 00:18:47,300
transportation needs,

610
00:18:46,366 --> 00:18:49,666
affordability, the

611
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:52,300
availabili of decent, safe,

612
00:18:49,750 --> 00:18:54,100
and sanitary housing, andny

613
00:18:52,933 --> 00:18:55,466
necessary mpha approvals.

614
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,566
the receiver has also

615
00:18:55,766 --> 00:18:58,200
indicated a wilngness to

616
00:18:56,666 --> 00:18:59,633
allow for relocating

617
00:18:58,283 --> 00:19:01,933
households to end their

618
00:18:59,833 --> 00:19:03,566
existing leases.

619
00:19:02,033 --> 00:19:03,900
and return any security

620
00:19:03,666 --> 00:19:07,300
deposits.

621
00:19:04,833 --> 00:19:09,133
we will encourage residents to

622
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,800
seek professional legal advice

623
00:19:09,233 --> 00:19:12,433
regarding the implications of

624
00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:16,233
accepting assistance and

625
00:19:12,533 --> 00:19:17,433
ending their currentease.

626
00:19:16,333 --> 00:19:18,766
resident choice and agency

627
00:19:17,533 --> 00:19:20,366
remains fundamental to this

628
00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:23,333
policy and our work.

629
00:19:20,466 --> 00:19:26,633
if a household cannot identifyae

630
00:19:23,433 --> 00:19:28,300
housing option and it does

631
00:19:26,733 --> 00:19:31,133
not -- and it does not have to

632
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,900
proceed with the relocation.

633
00:19:31,233 --> 00:19:35,733
finally, if someone relocates

634
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,366
and later wants to return to

635
00:19:35,833 --> 00:19:39,266
heritage park, they would need

636
00:19:36,666 --> 00:19:40,000
to go through the property's

637
00:19:39,366 --> 00:19:43,933
standard new resident

638
00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:45,200
application process.

639
00:19:44,033 --> 00:19:46,133
there are two financial

640
00:19:45,300 --> 00:19:47,566
components of this policy, and

641
00:19:46,233 --> 00:19:49,866
I'll get into that in depthhere.

642
00:19:47,666 --> 00:19:52,300
the first is a permanent

643
00:19:49,966 --> 00:19:53,233
relocation benefit.

644
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,433
in simple terms, this is

645
00:19:53,333 --> 00:19:57,066
designed to help address the

646
00:19:55,533 --> 00:19:58,733
increased housing costs that a

647
00:19:57,166 --> 00:19:59,800
house head may experience when

648
00:19:58,833 --> 00:20:00,566
moving to an appropriate

649
00:19:59,900 --> 00:20:01,900
replacementnit.

650
00:20:00,666 --> 00:20:02,666
the benefit is based on 12

651
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,666
months of the difference

652
00:20:02,766 --> 00:20:06,033
between a household's current

653
00:20:04,766 --> 00:20:07,600
out-of-pocket rent and the

654
00:20:06,366 --> 00:20:09,200
rent for the approved housing

655
00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:12,066
unit.

656
00:20:09,300 --> 00:20:12,666
taking into consideration any

657
00:20:12,166 --> 00:20:14,300
voucher benefits that they

658
00:20:12,766 --> 00:20:18,200
might he.

659
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,966
the replacement unit must be

660
00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:20,600
appropriately sized and

661
00:20:19,066 --> 00:20:21,800
approved to be habitable by

662
00:20:20,833 --> 00:20:23,600
the relocation consultant.

663
00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:25,900
there is also a cap on the

664
00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:29,200
benefit based on the hud 6

665
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,600
area median income standard

666
00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:31,766
and 30% affordability

667
00:20:31,566 --> 00:20:32,666
threshold.

668
00:20:31,866 --> 00:20:33,333
the second component is a

669
00:20:32,766 --> 00:20:37,566
moving stipend.

670
00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:39,133
this is a flat amount based on

671
00:20:37,666 --> 00:20:39,800
bedroom size of the unit the

672
00:20:39,233 --> 00:20:41,666
household is leaving.

673
00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:43,200
it is intended to address

674
00:20:41,866 --> 00:20:45,266
practical relocation expenses.

675
00:20:43,633 --> 00:20:50,866
things like application fees,

676
00:20:45,366 --> 00:20:53,033
moving costs, transportation,ust

677
00:20:50,966 --> 00:20:56,333
stipend ranges from $3,500 for

678
00:20:54,733 --> 00:20:58,066
a one-bedroom to $7,500 for

679
00:20:56,433 --> 00:21:00,033
the five-bedroom units.

680
00:20:58,166 --> 00:21:02,233
and, importantly, $500 of t

681
00:21:00,666 --> 00:21:04,300
moving stipend can be made

682
00:21:02,333 --> 00:21:06,500
available early once the

683
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,366
eligible household is met --

684
00:21:07,233 --> 00:21:10,166
has met the relocation

685
00:21:08,466 --> 00:21:11,633
consultant and identified an

686
00:21:10,266 --> 00:21:14,100
acceptable unit or when the

687
00:21:11,733 --> 00:21:15,500
cped director approves other

688
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,966
health or safety-related

689
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,400
emergency needs.

690
00:21:18,066 --> 00:21:19,733
give you a sense of the

691
00:21:19,500 --> 00:21:23,033
calculations.

692
00:21:19,833 --> 00:21:23,166
you see on this slide

693
00:21:23,166 --> 00:21:23,833
il

694
00:21:23,266 --> 00:21:25,733
like to speak.

695
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,850
we will first go to council

696
00:21:25,833 --> 00:21:31,300
member warren.

697
00:21:26,966 --> 00:21:32,666
» Thank you, chair.

698
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,866
thank you, director hansen,

699
00:21:32,766 --> 00:21:38,600
for the hard work that the

700
00:21:33,966 --> 00:21:46,866
city has done in organizing

701
00:21:38,700 --> 00:21:47,900
this relocation policy.

702
00:21:46,966 --> 00:21:50,000
and I don't have a problem

703
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,533
with the relocation assistance

704
00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:51,733
that's being given.

705
00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:53,266
I just have an issue with the

706
00:21:51,833 --> 00:21:56,000
fact that the individuals who

707
00:21:53,366 --> 00:21:58,133
are participating -- who are

708
00:21:57,566 --> 00:21:59,733
participant of minneapolis

709
00:21:58,233 --> 00:22:00,900
public housing authority are

710
00:21:59,833 --> 00:22:06,466
essentially being punished for

711
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:07,400
being low to no income.

712
00:22:06,566 --> 00:22:10,466
we know that individuals who

713
00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:11,233
have low to no income and are

714
00:22:10,566 --> 00:22:13,666
receiving public housing are

715
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,366
the ones who need help the

716
00:22:13,766 --> 00:22:19,533
most.

717
00:22:16,466 --> 00:22:22,033
and I'm upset at the fact that

718
00:22:19,866 --> 00:22:23,566
for the last several months,

719
00:22:22,133 --> 00:22:25,233
since the 23rd of march,

720
00:22:23,666 --> 00:22:27,833
since this was placed on my

721
00:22:25,333 --> 00:22:29,266
desk and I was brought to the

722
00:22:27,933 --> 00:22:32,533
attention of coming to meet

723
00:22:29,366 --> 00:22:34,400
with the 30 residen that

724
00:22:32,633 --> 00:22:35,933
were there above the office in

725
00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:37,266
the manement building that

726
00:22:36,033 --> 00:22:39,933
we're talking about the

727
00:22:37,566 --> 00:22:45,033
conditions in heritage park,

728
00:22:40,033 --> 00:22:46,766
there hasn't been a response

729
00:22:46,033 --> 00:22:47,866
of effort and those are the

730
00:22:46,866 --> 00:22:48,433
people who are the most

731
00:22:47,966 --> 00:22:49,300
vulnerable, those are the

732
00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:50,566
people who have been crying

733
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:54,566
out for the longest, and

734
00:22:50,666 --> 00:22:56,900
they've been being gas lit by

735
00:22:54,666 --> 00:22:58,366
mpha, they've been being gas

736
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,066
lit by proper solutions,

737
00:22:58,466 --> 00:23:02,200
they've been being told that

738
00:23:00,166 --> 00:23:03,400
theiunits have passed

739
00:23:02,300 --> 00:23:07,133
inspection, they're being told

740
00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:08,566
that theyidn't need to move,

741
00:23:07,233 --> 00:23:11,700
that there is not anything

742
00:23:08,666 --> 00:23:13,333
that I wrong with the

743
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,100
conditions inhich they're

744
00:23:13,433 --> 00:23:15,700
living in.

745
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,666
the thing that stood out to me

746
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:21,866
the most in this relocation

747
00:23:17,766 --> 00:23:23,466
policy is the fact that there

748
00:23:21,966 --> 00:23:26,600
are people, you say residents,

749
00:23:23,566 --> 00:23:26,966
who may not want to relocate

750
00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:28,066
on mpha.

751
00:23:27,066 --> 00:23:29,000
there isn't a choice.

752
00:23:28,166 --> 00:23:30,333
because if you're inspecting

753
00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:33,500
the properties and you know

754
00:23:30,433 --> 00:23:34,966
that there is mold on top of

755
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,466
mold, that there are floors on

756
00:23:35,066 --> 00:23:38,233
top of floors, that there are

757
00:23:36,566 --> 00:23:40,733
walls on top of walls, that

758
00:23:38,333 --> 00:23:43,900
there's over 2,700 failing

759
00:23:40,833 --> 00:23:45,566
windows in that property, that

760
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,400
the entire envelopes of the

761
00:23:45,666 --> 00:23:49,600
buildings have to beemoved,

762
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:51,766
the stucco has to be removed,

763
00:23:49,700 --> 00:23:52,833
the siding has to be remov.

764
00:23:51,866 --> 00:23:54,300
and in order to do that, you

765
00:23:52,933 --> 00:23:56,300
have to cut off all the

766
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,633
utilities for the property

767
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,566
itself.

768
00:23:56,733 --> 00:24:01,966
the fact that I was told by

769
00:23:58,666 --> 00:24:02,833
the fire inspectornd fire

770
00:24:02,066 --> 00:24:05,300
chiefs that with buildings

771
00:24:02,933 --> 00:24:06,100
that are boarded with one or

772
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,700
two residents living in there

773
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,600
because the campus is cut like

774
00:24:09,783 --> 00:24:12,833
swiss cheese that with only

775
00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:15,400
one or two residents living in

776
00:24:12,933 --> 00:24:18,366
a building that it's not even

777
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:21,666
safe, that in order to service

778
00:24:18,466 --> 00:24:23,600
that building in the event of

779
00:24:22,716 --> 00:24:24,400
an emergency, if there was a

780
00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:25,933
fire or anything, they would

781
00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:27,000
have to removall the boards

782
00:24:26,033 --> 00:24:28,566
from the building, which would

783
00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:30,300
delay a response to a family,

784
00:24:29,266 --> 00:24:33,133
it is not habitable

785
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,233
if they have to remove all of

786
00:24:33,233 --> 00:24:36,000
the exterior envelope of the

787
00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:37,933
building, it's not habitable.

788
00:24:36,266 --> 00:24:39,933
if they have to depot inside

789
00:24:38,033 --> 00:24:41,766
and gut the entire inside of

790
00:24:40,033 --> 00:24:43,966
the building to remove the

791
00:24:41,866 --> 00:24:46,066
mold, it's not habitable.

792
00:24:44,833 --> 00:24:47,933
if every roof in heritage park

793
00:24:46,166 --> 00:24:48,833
has to be replad, it's not

794
00:24:48,666 --> 00:24:50,133
habitable.

795
00:24:48,933 --> 00:24:53,366
because the water intrusion is

796
00:24:50,233 --> 00:24:55,166
there.

797
00:24:53,466 --> 00:24:57,000
so I don't know why mpha,

798
00:24:55,266 --> 00:24:59,733
their board, their chairs,

799
00:24:57,100 --> 00:25:00,966
their whoever keeps

800
00:24:59,833 --> 00:25:02,500
gaslighting residents saying

801
00:25:01,066 --> 00:25:05,666
that there are -- that this

802
00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:08,066
place is somewhere where they

803
00:25:05,766 --> 00:25:08,900
can be, and the majority --

804
00:25:08,166 --> 00:25:10,366
theye taking advantage of

805
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,033
not just low to

806
00:25:10,466 --> 00:25:12,900
moderate-income families, but

807
00:25:11,233 --> 00:25:13,433
a lot of them are immigrant

808
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,300
families, too.

809
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,600
we just had the entire city of

810
00:25:15,733 --> 00:25:18,366
minneapolis, through operation

811
00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:19,333
metrsurge, talk about

812
00:25:18,466 --> 00:25:20,033
standing up to fight for our

813
00:25:19,416 --> 00:25:23,200
neighbors, and here it is the

814
00:25:20,133 --> 00:25:23,866
people who need the most

815
00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:24,933
dang-on protection aren't

816
00:25:23,966 --> 00:25:26,066
receiving it.

817
00:25:25,033 --> 00:25:27,266
no one is standing up,

818
00:25:26,166 --> 00:25:29,233
fighting for them, and this is

819
00:25:27,366 --> 00:25:35,800
their first tier of public

820
00:25:29,333 --> 00:25:38,200
safety.

821
00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:39,100
coming to the table and doing

822
00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:40,666
anything they were supposed to

823
00:25:39,433 --> 00:25:41,166
do as far as being right to

824
00:25:40,766 --> 00:25:42,800
these people.

825
00:25:41,266 --> 00:25:43,900
you make it optional, keep

826
00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:45,166
lying to the board, saying

827
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,866
that these units are passing

828
00:25:45,266 --> 00:25:47,466
inspection and they're not.

829
00:25:45,966 --> 00:25:48,300
and we know, I've read the

830
00:25:47,566 --> 00:25:49,433
reports, you've read the

831
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,033
reports, we read the reports,

832
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:53,733
do we not read the reports?

833
00:25:51,133 --> 00:25:55,733
we saw 'em.

834
00:25:53,833 --> 00:25:58,900
it's a real place.

835
00:25:55,833 --> 00:26:01,066
this is absolutely devastating

836
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,266
and it's ignorant!

837
00:26:01,166 --> 00:26:04,833
I've lived in public housing.

838
00:26:03,366 --> 00:26:06,100
I've held a section 8

839
00:26:04,933 --> 00:26:09,366
certificate.

840
00:26:06,566 --> 00:26:11,266
I know how difficult it iso

841
00:26:09,566 --> 00:26:16,700
find housing and I know how

842
00:26:11,366 --> 00:26:18,300
expensive it is to move.

843
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,366
the individuals who are in

844
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,366
desperate need of this

845
00:26:19,466 --> 00:26:22,400
assistance, the difference

846
00:26:20,466 --> 00:26:24,300
between them applying for

847
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:26,200
apartment, paying a security

848
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,466
deposit or going out to go buy

849
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:29,666
boxes is a difference for them

850
00:26:28,566 --> 00:26:30,433
having a roof ove their head

851
00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:31,300
or not.

852
00:26:30,533 --> 00:26:33,866
they can't afford this.

853
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:39,633
they can't.

854
00:26:33,966 --> 00:26:43,033
this is not fair to them.

855
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,933
and happy and everything, oh,

856
00:26:43,233 --> 00:26:46,300
we just built new sustainable

857
00:26:45,033 --> 00:26:47,733
housing, solar panels, this,

858
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,833
that, and the other on south

859
00:26:47,833 --> 00:26:49,700
minneapolis, but according to

860
00:26:48,933 --> 00:26:51,400
your mission statement, you

861
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:51,866
said that you were there to

862
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:52,533
protect, preserve, in

863
00:26:51,966 --> 00:26:55,800
partnership and all the rest

864
00:26:52,766 --> 00:26:56,600
of this stuff with minneapolis

865
00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:57,233
public housing.

866
00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:58,900
preservation means taking care

867
00:26:57,366 --> 00:26:59,700
of the stock you already got.

868
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,966
how you planning for tomorrow

869
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,000
when you didn't do anything

870
00:27:01,066 --> 00:27:05,900
about today?

871
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:10,700
doesn't make any sense at all.

872
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,500
it's absolutely disrespectful.

873
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,700
affordable housing and public

874
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,733
housing is not a sentence.

875
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,066
and their health and

876
00:27:15,833 --> 00:27:22,633
well-being is not discounted

877
00:27:18,166 --> 00:27:24,633
because their income is low.

878
00:27:22,733 --> 00:27:25,300
mpha needs to get their shit

879
00:27:24,766 --> 00:27:26,500
tother.

880
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,200
that's all I got to say.

881
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,866
the end.

882
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:32,933
» All right.

883
00:27:30,966 --> 00:27:33,166
thank you, council member

884
00:27:33,033 --> 00:27:35,933
warren.

885
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:37,100
I ve myself in queue.

886
00:27:36,033 --> 00:27:39,533
director hansen, thank you for

887
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,733
the presentation.

888
00:27:39,633 --> 00:27:42,800
could you just, like, walk

889
00:27:40,833 --> 00:27:44,766
through a little bit on how

890
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:48,700
this policy was developed with

891
00:27:44,866 --> 00:27:49,500
your team and then kind of the

892
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,333
realtime, on-the-ground

893
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,633
considerations in making it?

894
00:27:52,433 --> 00:27:54,766
» Chair chowdhury, good

895
00:27:53,733 --> 00:27:57,033
questions.

896
00:27:54,866 --> 00:27:59,966
so, if you recall, if I can,

897
00:27:57,133 --> 00:28:02,633
I'm going to comment on se

898
00:28:00,166 --> 00:28:05,233
of the council member warren's

899
00:28:02,733 --> 00:28:06,766
observations here.

900
00:28:05,333 --> 00:28:09,666
back a month ago, we were in

901
00:28:06,866 --> 00:28:09,966
front of you with an ergency

902
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,000
situation.

903
00:28:10,066 --> 00:28:13,866
and when I spoke to you about

904
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:15,000
that, we were talking about

905
00:28:13,966 --> 00:28:18,366
something with incomplete

906
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:20,333
information.

907
00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:21,666
we knew that it was evolvg,

908
00:28:20,533 --> 00:28:25,133
the situation at heritage park

909
00:28:21,766 --> 00:28:26,900
was evolving.

910
00:28:25,233 --> 00:28:28,033
and we needed to make sure

911
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,900
that there were resources

912
00:28:28,133 --> 00:28:32,400
available for peopleho

913
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,033
wanted to go.

914
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:34,966
I will agree with the council

915
00:28:34,133 --> 00:28:35,700
member on the conditions of

916
00:28:35,366 --> 00:28:37,100
the buildings.

917
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,533
I talked about the threshold

918
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,633
questi of are the buildings

919
00:28:38,666 --> 00:28:42,700
worth saving or not, we have

920
00:28:40,733 --> 00:28:43,666
still not been to a

921
00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:44,533
definitive, can we save the

922
00:28:43,766 --> 00:28:45,733
buildings or not?

923
00:28:44,633 --> 00:28:47,133
I think we're on the side of

924
00:28:46,066 --> 00:28:49,700
the fence where we can.

925
00:28:47,233 --> 00:28:50,900
but we don't -- I can't give

926
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,666
you with total confidence that

927
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:57,700
we can save the buildings.

928
00:28:52,766 --> 00:28:59,266
and to that point, that means

929
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,133
that there is no habitable

930
00:28:59,366 --> 00:29:04,600
unit.

931
00:29:00,533 --> 00:29:05,366
so when we were working

932
00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:07,100
getting the resources -- which

933
00:29:05,566 --> 00:29:09,566
I want to thank you for

934
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,966
trusting staff to come to you

935
00:29:09,666 --> 00:29:14,700
and working through with

936
00:29:12,066 --> 00:29:15,500
incomplete information in an

937
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,233
emergency -- we then the went

938
00:29:15,733 --> 00:29:17,866
to work.

939
00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:18,933
we had director sayer here at

940
00:29:17,966 --> 00:29:19,733
the migrate to talk about the

941
00:29:19,033 --> 00:29:24,766
coordination group that was

942
00:29:20,366 --> 00:29:25,766
stood up immediately after the h

943
00:29:24,866 --> 00:29:26,633
you, and that has been working

944
00:29:25,866 --> 00:29:27,933
and doing some assessments

945
00:29:26,733 --> 00:29:30,966
about what's happening and

946
00:29:28,033 --> 00:29:32,966
that's where we uncover that

947
00:29:31,066 --> 00:29:34,933
under our current picies we

948
00:29:33,066 --> 00:29:35,933
do not have the authority to

949
00:29:35,033 --> 00:29:37,133
provide relocation benefits

950
00:29:36,133 --> 00:29:39,533
unless we come back to you

951
00:29:37,233 --> 00:29:41,600
with this policy.

952
00:29:39,966 --> 00:29:43,666
so that's 'the reason we're

953
00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:44,566
here, and through that

954
00:29:43,766 --> 00:29:46,400
coordination group, that

955
00:29:44,666 --> 00:29:47,933
includes, you kw, at points

956
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:50,700
the emergency management

957
00:29:48,033 --> 00:29:51,666
department, the other

958
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,533
ancillary departments that

959
00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:55,733
were in that coordination

960
00:29:53,633 --> 00:29:57,333
group, like ncr, neighborhood

961
00:29:56,366 --> 00:29:59,600
community relations, or

962
00:29:57,433 --> 00:30:01,933
regulatory services, or the

963
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:03,500
health department, as well as

964
00:30:02,566 --> 00:30:04,866
as pminent cped leadership

965
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,833
and the city attorneys, and as

966
00:30:05,066 --> 00:30:09,066
we were working towards the --

967
00:30:06,933 --> 00:30:11,000
kind of the transition back to

968
00:30:09,166 --> 00:30:11,800
cped, we knew we had to come

969
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:15,933
backith this policy.

970
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:17,366
and, so, in earnest, for a

971
00:30:16,166 --> 00:30:18,933
majority of the last ten days,

972
00:30:17,566 --> 00:30:20,133
up until friday when we

973
00:30:19,033 --> 00:30:28,033
released this policyor you

974
00:30:22,166 --> 00:30:29,266
to review, it has city staff,

975
00:30:28,133 --> 00:30:30,433
workin with the city

976
00:30:29,366 --> 00:30:31,733
attorneys and housing staff,

977
00:30:30,533 --> 00:30:34,266
and our policy research and

978
00:30:31,833 --> 00:30:36,566
outreacheam, working to

979
00:30:34,366 --> 00:30:38,266
craft what we've learned from

980
00:30:36,666 --> 00:30:38,866
peoplen the ground at

981
00:30:38,366 --> 00:30:42,266
heritage park.

982
00:30:39,166 --> 00:30:44,566
so that's why we're tryingto --e

983
00:30:42,366 --> 00:30:49,600
in front of you is helping

984
00:30:45,566 --> 00:30:50,733
people for a year, the extra

985
00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:52,133
cost, we think, so they can

986
00:30:50,833 --> 00:30:55,166
meet it, and then figuring out

987
00:30:52,233 --> 00:30:55,833
what that stipend would be for

988
00:30:55,266 --> 00:30:57,366
moving.

989
00:30:55,933 --> 00:31:00,633
and we understand that the

990
00:30:57,466 --> 00:31:03,466
smaller your dwellg unit is,

991
00:31:00,966 --> 00:31:04,366
the likely -- lower cost than

992
00:31:03,566 --> 00:31:06,566
the larger units so that

993
00:31:04,466 --> 00:31:08,333
that's why you have a -- so

994
00:31:06,666 --> 00:31:08,933
that's why you have a

995
00:31:08,433 --> 00:31:10,400
graduated benefit to units.

996
00:31:09,033 --> 00:31:11,700
and as we do that, we still

997
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:12,866
continue to talk about what

998
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,533
is the condition of heritage

999
00:31:13,433 --> 00:31:17,000
park?

1000
00:31:13,633 --> 00:31:17,566
and I want to address, the

1001
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:18,166
minneapolis public housing

1002
00:31:17,666 --> 00:31:19,833
authority continues to work

1003
00:31:18,266 --> 00:31:21,633
with the city of minneapolis

1004
00:31:19,933 --> 00:31:23,833
and I will agree that they

1005
00:31:21,733 --> 00:31:28,733
have not been as forthright,

1006
00:31:23,933 --> 00:31:30,433
but they are finding resources

1007
00:31:28,833 --> 00:31:33,700
for transfers of public

1008
00:31:30,533 --> 00:31:35,333
housing units within heritage

1009
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,300
park for those that have to

1010
00:31:35,533 --> 00:31:37,200
move because they have decided

1011
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,400
that - or determined that

1012
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:40,800
they're not habitable units

1013
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:42,233
anymore and they're worki

1014
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:43,866
towards resources for those

1015
00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:44,833
that voluntarily want to

1016
00:31:44,166 --> 00:31:49,333
transfer to other units.

1017
00:31:46,866 --> 00:31:50,233
we have to hold -- they have

1018
00:31:49,433 --> 00:31:50,966
resources, we have to hope

1019
00:31:50,333 --> 00:31:54,266
that they're bringing those

1020
00:31:51,066 --> 00:31:54,866
and we have to expect that the

1021
00:31:54,366 --> 00:31:56,133
minneapolis public housing

1022
00:31:55,466 --> 00:31:58,633
authority is bringing

1023
00:31:57,566 --> 00:31:59,133
resources for minneapolis

1024
00:31:58,733 --> 00:31:59,400
public housing authority

1025
00:31:59,233 --> 00:32:00,300
residents.

1026
00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:01,400
the city is here because we

1027
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:03,233
make the discretionary

1028
00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:04,400
decision thaheritage park is

1029
00:32:03,333 --> 00:32:05,500
important in this case and we

1030
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:08,733
need to help the others that

1031
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,266
don't have that path out that

1032
00:32:08,833 --> 00:32:11,466
mpha units would.

1033
00:32:10,366 --> 00:32:11,766
and that' what this policy is

1034
00:32:11,566 --> 00:32:14,300
about.

1035
00:32:11,866 --> 00:32:15,633
and I have to think about,

1036
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,300
like, at this moment in time,

1037
00:32:15,733 --> 00:32:18,933
I'm thinking about what is

1038
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,966
heritage park now?

1039
00:32:19,033 --> 00:32:21,900
what aree doing?

1040
00:32:21,066 --> 00:32:23,633
how do we effectuate the

1041
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,066
funding in a reasonable and

1042
00:32:23,733 --> 00:32:25,833
manageable way?

1043
00:32:24,166 --> 00:32:27,033
how do we start working with

1044
00:32:25,933 --> 00:32:30,166
the residents of heritage park

1045
00:32:27,133 --> 00:32:31,500
that don't have a path out?

1046
00:32:30,266 --> 00:32:32,666
this provides that option.

1047
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,033
and, you kw, get on the

1048
00:32:32,766 --> 00:32:34,683
ground.

1049
00:32:33,133 --> 00:32:35,466
we are bringing in a

1050
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,133
relocation consultant that

1051
00:32:35,566 --> 00:32:39,733
will work with us, that can

1052
00:32:38,233 --> 00:32:41,566
sit down with each individual

1053
00:32:39,833 --> 00:32:42,133
household and work on, where

1054
00:32:41,666 --> 00:32:43,766
do you want to go?

1055
00:32:42,233 --> 00:32:44,966
what works for your family?

1056
00:32:43,866 --> 00:32:45,400
where do your kids go to

1057
00:32:45,066 --> 00:32:46,700
school?

1058
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:47,600
what other things do we need

1059
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,600
to think about?

1060
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:49,433
and that's going to take some

1061
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:50,000
time and that's wt we're

1062
00:32:49,533 --> 00:32:51,866
going to manage.

1063
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,766
this helps us open that up so

1064
00:32:51,966 --> 00:32:53,400
that we can start working

1065
00:32:52,866 --> 00:32:55,533
towards that and I tnk

1066
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,800
that's going to help, and then

1067
00:32:55,633 --> 00:32:57,666
we can go back to say, how did

1068
00:32:56,966 --> 00:32:59,300
we get here?

1069
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,266
I mean, we're just focused, as

1070
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,233
much as we can, on the

1071
00:33:01,366 --> 00:33:04,900
conditions of folks in

1072
00:33:04,333 --> 00:33:06,033
heritage park now and

1073
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,966
hopefully we can get back and

1074
00:33:06,133 --> 00:33:08,800
then we can talk about how we

1075
00:33:08,066 --> 00:33:10,366
got here.

1076
00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:11,566
and I'm all open for that

1077
00:33:10,466 --> 00:33:13,500
conversation, how we got here,

1078
00:33:11,666 --> 00:33:14,966
because we have to learn as a

1079
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,333
city, when we make these

1080
00:33:15,933 --> 00:33:18,800
substantial investments into

1081
00:33:17,433 --> 00:33:20,366
people's homes, this is not an

1082
00:33:18,933 --> 00:33:23,600
fordable housing project,

1083
00:33:21,066 --> 00:33:26,433
this is 400 homes that we

1084
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:28,300
invested in, and we had the

1085
00:33:26,533 --> 00:33:30,000
front-row seat to this

1086
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,033
development, and now we're at

1087
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:32,333
this condition, we have the

1088
00:33:31,133 --> 00:33:33,233
same conditions we were

1089
00:33:32,433 --> 00:33:34,000
supposed to abate with the

1090
00:33:33,333 --> 00:33:36,600
const decree.

1091
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:38,066
and now we're here.

1092
00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:39,333
so it is important and

1093
00:33:38,166 --> 00:33:40,566
imperative for cped to sit

1094
00:33:39,433 --> 00:33:42,033
down and figure that o.

1095
00:33:40,666 --> 00:33:44,033
we're going to work with the

1096
00:33:42,133 --> 00:33:45,366
other departments that are

1097
00:33:44,133 --> 00:33:47,233
within the city about what

1098
00:33:45,466 --> 00:33:47,766
went wrong so we don't have

1099
00:33:47,333 --> 00:33:50,700
this thing happen again.

1100
00:33:49,366 --> 00:33:52,900
it is not delight me to be in

1101
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,766
front of you to talk about

1102
00:33:53,033 --> 00:33:55,733
th, but it is important for

1103
00:33:53,866 --> 00:33:56,733
the city to, when they know

1104
00:33:55,833 --> 00:33:58,700
something, to do something and

1105
00:33:56,833 --> 00:33:59,900
that's what wre here to do.

1106
00:33:58,866 --> 00:34:00,166
I hope I answered your

1107
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,333
question.

1108
00:34:00,933 --> 00:34:04,833
» Yeah.

1109
00:34:01,433 --> 00:34:06,466
for sure, in part.

1110
00:34:04,933 --> 00:34:07,433
I want to make sure we get to

1111
00:34:06,566 --> 00:34:09,766
others r in the queue because

1112
00:34:07,533 --> 00:34:10,300
there's a number of council

1113
00:34:09,866 --> 00:34:11,800
members.

1114
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,700
I did have a question, maybe

1115
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:18,533
perhaps for the city attorney.

1116
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:19,733
could youind of speak to the

1117
00:34:18,666 --> 00:34:21,800
risdictional issue that cped

1118
00:34:19,966 --> 00:34:23,133
came across?

1119
00:34:22,233 --> 00:34:24,966
that's requiring them bring

1120
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,200
this policy forward.

1121
00:34:25,700 --> 00:34:27,266
» Sure.

1122
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:29,800
yeah.

1123
00:34:28,033 --> 00:34:31,866
good afternoon.

1124
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:34,933
so, essentially our existing

1125
00:34:31,966 --> 00:34:38,666
relocation policies, for

1126
00:34:35,033 --> 00:34:42,266
example, for redevelopment of

1127
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,466
a project, which cped often

1128
00:34:42,366 --> 00:34:45,000
uses didn't fit with this one

1129
00:34:43,566 --> 00:34:45,600
because there isn't aually

1130
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:45,900
redevelopment occurring at the

1131
00:34:45,700 --> 00:34:47,533
moment.

1132
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,033
and, so, -- and then there's

1133
00:34:47,633 --> 00:34:51,466
also a separate temporary

1134
00:34:50,133 --> 00:34:53,333
relocation policy that is

1135
00:34:51,566 --> 00:34:54,633
generally used as part our

1136
00:34:53,633 --> 00:34:56,266
lead abatement program that is

1137
00:34:54,733 --> 00:35:00,000
really intended for a

1138
00:34:56,366 --> 00:35:01,516
short-term, you know, right,

1139
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:02,533
contractors go in, remove the

1140
00:35:01,633 --> 00:35:02,966
lead, someone comes back

1141
00:35:02,633 --> 00:35:04,833
within a week.

1142
00:35:03,066 --> 00:35:06,666
and neither of those seemed

1143
00:35:04,933 --> 00:35:08,566
feasible here where the

1144
00:35:06,766 --> 00:35:09,500
overall coition of the

1145
00:35:08,666 --> 00:35:11,533
property and what the

1146
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,966
long-term plan is is still

1147
00:35:11,633 --> 00:35:14,600
unclear.

1148
00:35:12,066 --> 00:35:17,100
and, so, looking at those

1149
00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:19,233
existing options, there wasn't

1150
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:22,300
anything that fits squarely in

1151
00:35:19,333 --> 00:35:23,533
this need of a voluntary

1152
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,300
relocation of an undetermined

1153
00:35:23,633 --> 00:35:26,833
duration.

1154
00:35:24,533 --> 00:35:28,933
and, so, that was where we

1155
00:35:26,933 --> 00:35:31,333
just did not think either

1156
00:35:29,033 --> 00:35:33,066
existing policy would work and

1157
00:35:31,433 --> 00:35:33,933
it would be better for

1158
00:35:33,166 --> 00:35:37,000
everyone and I think provide a

1159
00:35:34,033 --> 00:35:37,633
lot of clarity, frankly, for

1160
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:39,566
folks within heritage park to

1161
00:35:37,733 --> 00:35:41,300
understand what the potential

1162
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:45,033
befits would be and have

1163
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,900
some clearly defined standards

1164
00:35:45,550 --> 00:35:47,566
and benefits for how those

1165
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,266
determinations would be made

1166
00:35:47,666 --> 00:35:53,566
instead of trying to just kind

1167
00:35:51,533 --> 00:35:54,533
of cobble togetheromethingthrout

1168
00:35:53,666 --> 00:35:55,433
don't really fit this

1169
00:35:54,633 --> 00:35:56,633
scenario.

1170
00:35:55,766 --> 00:35:58,350
» Okay.

1171
00:35:56,766 --> 00:35:59,566
th's helpful.

1172
00:35:58,533 --> 00:36:00,133
I definitely think it opens up

1173
00:35:59,666 --> 00:36:01,533
other questions.

1174
00:36:00,233 --> 00:36:05,333
my last thing, then I'll pass

1175
00:36:01,933 --> 00:36:07,566
it on, is what I see attache

1176
00:36:05,433 --> 00:36:10,066
in the lims file and the rca

1177
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,900
is not a typical policy format

1178
00:36:10,166 --> 00:36:12,166
that we see.

1179
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,000
we usually see a policy

1180
00:36:12,266 --> 00:36:16,533
resolution or an ordinance.

1181
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:18,666
could you speak to what policy

1182
00:36:16,633 --> 00:36:20,300
format this is?

1183
00:36:18,766 --> 00:36:21,933
that we are passing.

1184
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,833
or voting on.

1185
00:36:22,233 --> 00:36:26,000
» Sure.

1186
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:27,000
so this one was drafted and

1187
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:28,500
intended so it woulde as

1188
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:29,833
clear as possible so folks

1189
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,600
both within the city and

1190
00:36:29,933 --> 00:36:32,766
outside of the city would get

1191
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,300
a clear understanding of what

1192
00:36:32,866 --> 00:36:35,866
the benefits would be and how

1193
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,266
the policy works.

1194
00:36:35,966 --> 00:36:41,900
and, so, we want this to be

1195
00:36:39,366 --> 00:36:42,533
someing that everyone can

1196
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,833
see.

1197
00:36:43,366 --> 00:36:47,033
I think it is written somewhat

1198
00:36:45,166 --> 00:36:48,800
similarly to our existing

1199
00:36:47,133 --> 00:36:50,433
relocation polies from cped.

1200
00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:51,400
but in terms of whether a

1201
00:36:50,533 --> 00:36:52,500
resolution will be added to it

1202
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,000
or not, this is something

1203
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:55,566
we're working with the clerk's

1204
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:55,833
office to finalize before

1205
00:36:55,666 --> 00:36:56,233
thursday.

1206
00:36:55,933 --> 00:36:57,766
» Yeah.

1207
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,200
I see that this is available,

1208
00:36:57,866 --> 00:37:00,566
clearly, for the public to

1209
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:01,866
understand.

1210
00:37:00,666 --> 00:37:03,833
I just- for me, it's

1211
00:37:01,966 --> 00:37:06,433
important that, like, we have

1212
00:37:03,933 --> 00:37:10,600
clarity as a legislative body

1213
00:37:07,833 --> 00:37:12,966
in what way we're approving

1214
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:15,200
legislation, right, because we

1215
00:37:13,066 --> 00:37:17,466
typically have an author,

1216
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:18,666
there's no author on this.

1217
00:37:17,566 --> 00:37:20,533
right?

1218
00:37:18,766 --> 00:37:23,400
and we also have a process

1219
00:37:20,633 --> 00:37:23,766
that shows, like, this is when

1220
00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:25,033
it's enacted.

1221
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,233
I also have some questions

1222
00:37:25,133 --> 00:37:29,333
about, like, do whave to

1223
00:37:27,333 --> 00:37:32,166
pass something in order to

1224
00:37:29,433 --> 00:37:33,566
void this policy?

1225
00:37:32,266 --> 00:37:35,566
we're using the -- we're using

1226
00:37:33,666 --> 00:37:36,633
the term "licy" really

1227
00:37:35,666 --> 00:37:38,200
broadly, and up here every

1228
00:37:36,733 --> 00:37:40,033
time we've had a policy

1229
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:42,666
discussion it hado be really

1230
00:37:40,133 --> 00:37:44,333
clear in terms of this is the

1231
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,966
type of -- it's a policy

1232
00:37:44,433 --> 00:37:47,600
resolution or it's an

1233
00:37:46,066 --> 00:37:48,600
ordinance or it's this

1234
00:37:47,733 --> 00:37:51,533
ecific thing.

1235
00:37:49,566 --> 00:37:54,400
additionally, I feel like --

1236
00:37:51,633 --> 00:37:55,833
this isn't to speak against

1237
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:56,500
this, I'm in no way doing

1238
00:37:56,266 --> 00:37:57,800
that.

1239
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,566
I just think we're having a

1240
00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:00,966
big issue with how this is

1241
00:37:59,666 --> 00:38:02,833
formatted and how we are

1242
00:38:01,066 --> 00:38:03,833
taking this up as a

1243
00:38:02,933 --> 00:38:05,900
legislative body.

1244
00:38:03,933 --> 00:38:06,466
there's obvioly a financial

1245
00:38:06,333 --> 00:38:08,633
impact.

1246
00:38:06,566 --> 00:38:10,066
there's the $2.5 million we

1247
00:38:08,733 --> 00:38:10,600
passed, buthere isn't an

1248
00:38:10,166 --> 00:38:12,133
attached fiscal note.

1249
00:38:10,766 --> 00:38:12,500
so I just wanted to point that

1250
00:38:12,433 --> 00:38:17,433
out.

1251
00:38:12,666 --> 00:38:20,000
I don't know if there is

1252
00:38:17,566 --> 00:38:23,266
anhing from director hansen

1253
00:38:20,833 --> 00:38:24,833
or yourself, city attorney, in

1254
00:38:23,366 --> 00:38:26,233
terms of kind of those

1255
00:38:24,933 --> 00:38:27,666
leftover questions in terms of

1256
00:38:26,333 --> 00:38:33,033
policy format and then fiscal

1257
00:38:27,766 --> 00:38:34,766
note.

1258
00:38:33,133 --> 00:38:36,633
» As to the policy format, I

1259
00:38:34,866 --> 00:38:38,166
think this is similar to other

1260
00:38:36,733 --> 00:38:39,366
cped policies, but we can

1261
00:38:38,266 --> 00:38:40,033
certainly look at thatnd get

1262
00:38:39,466 --> 00:38:41,283
back to you.

1263
00:38:40,333 --> 00:38:41,533
» Yeah, that would be

1264
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,400
helpful.

1265
00:38:41,733 --> 00:38:43,400
» On the formatting.

1266
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:44,166
» I hear that you'reaying

1267
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:45,600
it's similar to others.

1268
00:38:44,566 --> 00:38:46,900
I just -- we're voting on

1269
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:48,666
something, and I know that

1270
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,966
cped hasnternal policies.

1271
00:38:48,833 --> 00:38:56,133
so it would just be helpful.

1272
00:38:51,066 --> 00:38:57,333
but happy to follow up later.

1273
00:38:56,233 --> 00:38:57,766
council member vetaw, you're

1274
00:38:57,433 --> 00:39:01,266
next in queue.

1275
00:38:57,966 --> 00:39:03,200
» Thank you, chair.

1276
00:39:01,466 --> 00:39:05,966
director, welcome back.

1277
00:39:03,333 --> 00:39:07,300
just a few questions about

1278
00:39:06,066 --> 00:39:09,366
some of the things you brought

1279
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:12,300
up in the presentation.

1280
00:39:09,466 --> 00:39:12,733
have you selected a relocation

1281
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,833
consultant already?

1282
00:39:12,933 --> 00:39:16,266
do w kno who that is?

1283
00:39:14,933 --> 00:39:18,333
and when is that person going

1284
00:39:16,366 --> 00:39:20,733
to start on this?

1285
00:39:18,933 --> 00:39:24,900
» Chair chowdhury, council

1286
00:39:20,833 --> 00:39:28,500
member vetaw, we are working

1287
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:30,366
to utilize an existing

1288
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,766
contract through public rks,

1289
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,400
so we don't have to do an rfp.

1290
00:39:32,866 --> 00:39:37,733
so we have a fir called srf

1291
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:38,300
that we're negotiating a

1292
00:39:37,833 --> 00:39:40,766
contract with.

1293
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,533
so it wouldn't be one person.

1294
00:39:40,966 --> 00:39:44,433
it would be a group of people

1295
00:39:42,633 --> 00:39:48,633
that have used -- that we've

1296
00:39:44,533 --> 00:39:52,166
used to do relocation when we

1297
00:39:48,783 --> 00:39:54,133
do tax projects and other cpe

1298
00:39:52,266 --> 00:39:56,566
projects.

1299
00:39:54,733 --> 00:39:57,500
» What does srf sta for, do

1300
00:39:56,666 --> 00:40:01,266
you know?

1301
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:05,633
» Srf is a multiexpertise

1302
00:40:01,366 --> 00:40:08,133
firm that does engineering,

1303
00:40:05,733 --> 00:40:11,433
land planning, helps with

1304
00:40:08,233 --> 00:40:12,000
housing projecti don't know howe

1305
00:40:11,533 --> 00:40:13,833
them.

1306
00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:14,400
they used to be just purely

1307
00:40:13,933 --> 00:40:15,700
engineering firms.

1308
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:16,233
they have now expanded their

1309
00:40:16,133 --> 00:40:17,133
work.

1310
00:40:16,333 --> 00:40:19,066
it's not uncommon for

1311
00:40:17,233 --> 00:40:22,933
companies like this that have

1312
00:40:19,166 --> 00:40:23,900
typically, unfortunately, havetf

1313
00:40:23,033 --> 00:40:25,766
is one that's been around for

1314
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,633
a while.

1315
00:40:25,866 --> 00:40:27,533
has bought other companies

1316
00:40:26,733 --> 00:40:27,833
that have done some of this

1317
00:40:27,633 --> 00:40:30,466
work.

1318
00:40:28,333 --> 00:40:32,433
so they have some expertise inr.

1319
00:40:30,566 --> 00:40:33,566
but we need people -- we just

1320
00:40:32,533 --> 00:40:34,833
need -- I mean, to be honest

1321
00:40:33,666 --> 00:40:36,400
with you, we they'd people

1322
00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:37,800
that can just sit down with

1323
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:38,666
households and work through

1324
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:41,200
their issues and we think

1325
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,433
that's going to expand our

1326
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:46,100
ability to do that quickly.>> I.

1327
00:40:44,533 --> 00:40:47,300
I'm just looking to make sure

1328
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,866
we have a trusted source,

1329
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,600
right?

1330
00:40:47,966 --> 00:40:52,800
like I get it that we have a

1331
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:54,100
history with this group.that's .

1332
00:40:52,933 --> 00:40:57,166
bui also want to make sure

1333
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,933
that the people who live here

1334
00:40:57,266 --> 00:40:59,583
feel comfortable approaching

1335
00:40:58,033 --> 00:41:01,433
the folks who they need to

1336
00:40:59,733 --> 00:41:02,100
t -- I mean, housing is very

1337
00:41:01,533 --> 00:41:02,966
intimate, right?

1338
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,833
like these are people that you

1339
00:41:03,066 --> 00:41:05,600
have to talk to about

1340
00:41:04,933 --> 00:41:08,133
everhing.

1341
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:09,966
so I justant to make sure

1342
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,633
at whoever you select is --

1343
00:41:10,066 --> 00:41:14,400
and I certainly understand the

1344
00:41:11,733 --> 00:41:19,433
process of an rfp a how long

1345
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:21,433
that can take, in delay.

1346
00:41:19,533 --> 00:41:23,233
I just want to make sure that

1347
00:41:21,533 --> 00:41:24,700
whatever choice cped makes,

1348
00:41:23,333 --> 00:41:26,566
these are trusted folks who we

1349
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,600
can rely on to be accepting

1350
00:41:26,666 --> 00:41:30,900
and helpful to people around

1351
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:32,600
the needs they're facing,

1352
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,300
especially when you're saying

1353
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:35,333
things like, you know it's

1354
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,700
going to be a lot of things --

1355
00:41:35,666 --> 00:41:37,366
I mean, it's going to get

1356
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,433
complicated.

1357
00:41:37,466 --> 00:41:41,933
it's housing, right?

1358
00:41:39,533 --> 00:41:44,133
like these are one-bedroom to

1359
00:41:42,033 --> 00:41:45,566
five-bedroom units.

1360
00:41:44,233 --> 00:41:46,866
thesere people who may have

1361
00:41:45,666 --> 00:41:48,033
questions about things that

1362
00:41:46,966 --> 00:41:49,833
existed -- didn't exi when

1363
00:41:48,133 --> 00:41:51,900
they moved into heritage park.

1364
00:41:49,933 --> 00:41:53,633
soius looking for a level of

1365
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,966
comfortrom whoever is going

1366
00:41:53,833 --> 00:41:57,766
to be this relocation

1367
00:41:57,566 --> 00:41:59,700
consultant.

1368
00:41:57,866 --> 00:42:01,933
my next question is, it seems

1369
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,966
like the numbers changed since

1370
00:42:02,033 --> 00:42:05,700
we talked originally whe you

1371
00:42:04,066 --> 00:42:08,233
gave the presentation, and you

1372
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,233
told us the $2.5 million would

1373
00:42:08,333 --> 00:42:11,366
go to assist with that.

1374
00:42:09,333 --> 00:42:13,266
the number was shocking, it

1375
00:42:11,466 --> 00:42:14,700
was over 600 people and 200

1376
00:42:13,366 --> 00:42:15,933
families that needed to be

1377
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,000
relocated.

1378
00:42:16,033 --> 00:42:18,200
what is the number now, you

1379
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:22,300
think?

1380
00:42:20,266 --> 00:42:23,100
» Counci member chowdhury,

1381
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,533
council member vetaw, yes,

1382
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,533
this is the part of the

1383
00:42:24,633 --> 00:42:27,300
conversation we were having

1384
00:42:25,633 --> 00:42:27,800
with you about having

1385
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,366
imperfect information.

1386
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:30,766
» Yes.

1387
00:42:28,450 --> 00:42:32,533
» And a we are putting

1388
00:42:30,866 --> 00:42:34,700
together -- learning about the

1389
00:42:32,633 --> 00:42:35,700
powers we have under theexistind

1390
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,833
for the policy that's in fnt

1391
00:42:36,366 --> 00:42:41,100
of you, that's when we looked

1392
00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:42,766
at which agencies would then

1393
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,166
provide assistance.

1394
00:42:42,866 --> 00:42:45,233
and mpha, that's where we got

1395
00:42:44,333 --> 00:42:47,333
a better understanding of who

1396
00:42:45,333 --> 00:42:48,966
was in there.

1397
00:42:47,433 --> 00:42:50,166
there's still 211.

1398
00:42:49,066 --> 00:42:51,800
one household has left since

1399
00:42:50,266 --> 00:42:53,600
the last time I was he.

1400
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,800
so it was 212 when I was back

1401
00:42:53,733 --> 00:42:55,333
he.

1402
00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:57,200
that's why you heard me say

1403
00:42:55,433 --> 00:42:57,966
over 380 people, because I

1404
00:42:57,300 --> 00:42:59,566
don't know how many people

1405
00:42:58,066 --> 00:43:02,100
were in that household.

1406
00:42:59,666 --> 00:43:03,433
we said 385, 386, the last

1407
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,400
time I was here about people

1408
00:43:03,533 --> 00:43:05,833
that were in there.

1409
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:07,466
from o work in the last

1410
00:43:05,933 --> 00:43:11,100
month, we've been able to

1411
00:43:07,566 --> 00:43:13,833
discern that 128 of the

1412
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,266
households are mpha units of

1413
00:43:13,933 --> 00:43:16,133
the occupied units and the

1414
00:43:15,466 --> 00:43:16,833
remaining 83 would be eligible

1415
00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:19,433
r this benefit.

1416
00:43:17,833 --> 00:43:19,733
» Okay.

1417
00:43:19,633 --> 00:43:21,600
and --

1418
00:43:19,933 --> 00:43:24,566
» And 83 households, I don't

1419
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:25,866
know how many people are in

1420
00:43:24,666 --> 00:43:26,333
those households, I didn't do

1421
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,500
that analysis.

1422
00:43:26,433 --> 00:43:30,700
I will tell you about srf and

1423
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,766
relocation, I expect 83

1424
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,500
complex conversations.

1425
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:33,866
» Bsolutely.

1426
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:37,500
» Yeah.

1427
00:43:34,133 --> 00:43:40,000
» And I don't know how much

1428
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:44,166
staffing srf has, that seems

1429
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:44,466
like a lot for 83 complicated

1430
00:43:44,266 --> 00:43:44,800
households.

1431
00:43:44,566 --> 00:43:45,533
» Yeah.

1432
00:43:44,966 --> 00:43:46,766
» Okay.

1433
00:43:45,633 --> 00:43:49,000
so we knowhat we've

1434
00:43:46,866 --> 00:43:50,933
identified possibly 83

1435
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:51,733
households that could come

1436
00:43:51,033 --> 00:43:52,766
through the city program.

1437
00:43:51,833 --> 00:43:53,033
we don't know if they want to

1438
00:43:52,866 --> 00:43:54,266
do it.

1439
00:43:53,133 --> 00:43:56,566
» That's right.

1440
00:43:54,433 --> 00:43:57,400
» But we've identified 83

1441
00:43:56,666 --> 00:43:57,966
households that could come

1442
00:43:57,500 --> 00:43:59,600
through this program.

1443
00:43:58,066 --> 00:44:02,566
and you said that mpha is

1444
00:43:59,700 --> 00:44:03,533
going to relocate the mpha

1445
00:44:02,666 --> 00:44:09,333
families.

1446
00:44:03,966 --> 00:44:10,733
is there a regular meeng,

1447
00:44:09,433 --> 00:44:13,400
conversations with mpha t

1448
00:44:10,833 --> 00:44:14,400
talk about a timeline or,

1449
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:17,666
like, -- because what I fr

1450
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:19,566
with this is that when people

1451
00:44:17,766 --> 00:44:23,250
start sing the srf families

1452
00:44:19,666 --> 00:44:24,266
getting relocated at a pace or

1453
00:44:23,366 --> 00:44:27,000
vice versa, it could happen

1454
00:44:24,366 --> 00:44:28,200
with mpha, then there will be

1455
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:29,266
some confusion, right?

1456
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:30,400
like people wl expect that

1457
00:44:29,366 --> 00:44:31,800
they can get the same amount

1458
00:44:30,533 --> 00:44:33,066
of money that we're offering

1459
00:44:31,966 --> 00:44:35,083
to the families who can g

1460
00:44:33,166 --> 00:44:35,633
through the cy program

1461
00:44:35,233 --> 00:44:36,533
thugh public housing.

1462
00:44:35,733 --> 00:44:37,833
and I don't know wha that

1463
00:44:36,633 --> 00:44:40,800
looks like.

1464
00:44:38,333 --> 00:44:42,300
so who is at this table with

1465
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:44,700
mpha and, like, how regular

1466
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,133
are you all meeting and how is

1467
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,100
this going to be communited

1468
00:44:47,300 --> 00:44:49,700
to the families, you know, the

1469
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,900
differences in the programs?

1470
00:44:50,900 --> 00:44:53,800
» Yeah, chair chowdhury,

1471
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,200
council member vetaw, very

1472
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:56,400
good questio

1473
00:44:55,300 --> 00:44:58,300
one of the stumbling point

1474
00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:59,700
we've had with residents at

1475
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,666
heritage parks we cannot

1476
00:45:00,033 --> 00:45:03,066
articulate what the benefits

1477
00:45:01,766 --> 00:45:03,500
are, and this is one of those

1478
00:45:03,433 --> 00:45:07,466
sts.

1479
00:45:03,633 --> 00:45:08,233
we're taking these kind of in

1480
00:45:07,566 --> 00:45:10,333
in order as best we can.

1481
00:45:08,333 --> 00:45:10,866
we're tking to the

1482
00:45:10,433 --> 00:45:12,600
minneapolis public housing

1483
00:45:10,966 --> 00:45:14,833
authority on a daily basis

1484
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:16,133
about their progress, about

1485
00:45:14,933 --> 00:45:17,200
our expectations, about our

1486
00:45:16,233 --> 00:45:20,600
partnership, we're talking

1487
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:21,933
with ser -- certus, the

1488
00:45:20,833 --> 00:45:23,133
receiver, on a daily basis,

1489
00:45:22,033 --> 00:45:23,900
we're talking with the

1490
00:45:23,233 --> 00:45:24,633
property management on a daily

1491
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,733
basis.

1492
00:45:24,733 --> 00:45:26,933
as we know what authority we

1493
00:45:25,833 --> 00:45:29,700
have under this policy, we

1494
00:45:27,033 --> 00:45:30,433
will then be putting together

1495
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,300
additional communications.

1496
00:45:30,533 --> 00:45:34,633
we've hosted community hours

1497
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,866
already that we expect to do

1498
00:45:34,733 --> 00:45:37,333
things like that engagement

1499
00:45:35,966 --> 00:45:39,566
and make sure that we can

1500
00:45:37,566 --> 00:45:41,633
demark the difference between

1501
00:45:39,666 --> 00:45:43,200
transfer assistance through

1502
00:45:41,733 --> 00:45:46,000
mpha and voluntary relocation

1503
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:48,100
assistance from the city.

1504
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:49,533
so, you know, get the policy

1505
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:54,333
approved, then move towards

1506
00:45:49,633 --> 00:45:56,200
how to communicate that to get

1507
00:45:54,433 --> 00:45:57,200
our relocation group in place,

1508
00:45:56,300 --> 00:46:00,033
then get settled, because we

1509
00:45:57,300 --> 00:46:01,033
don't wanto give people

1510
00:46:00,133 --> 00:46:03,000
imperfect information, we'll

1511
00:46:01,133 --> 00:46:04,633
give them the best but we

1512
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:05,533
don't want to give them

1513
00:46:04,733 --> 00:46:07,366
incorrect information where

1514
00:46:05,633 --> 00:46:08,266
people will think it's going

1515
00:46:07,466 --> 00:46:08,800
to go quick or slow or what

1516
00:46:08,366 --> 00:46:09,666
have you.

1517
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,500
we're working on that.

1518
00:46:09,766 --> 00:46:14,033
like I said, since it's come

1519
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,766
back to cped, we've been

1520
00:46:14,133 --> 00:46:17,633
focused primarily on getting

1521
00:46:16,866 --> 00:46:19,833
this policy approved and then

1522
00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:20,600
we will go to how to engage

1523
00:46:19,933 --> 00:46:20,800
the community so everybody is

1524
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:21,900
clear.

1525
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,333
» Okay, thank you.

1526
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:27,066
yeah, I guess I'm just -- I'm

1527
00:46:25,433 --> 00:46:28,933
just a little skeptical of,

1528
00:46:27,166 --> 00:46:30,900
like, how you move forward

1529
00:46:29,033 --> 00:46:32,100
with all these different

1530
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,466
moving parts in making sure

1531
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:37,900
people understand that, like,

1532
00:46:35,566 --> 00:46:39,100
I don't want people to feel

1533
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:39,533
segregated from something,

1534
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,300
right?

1535
00:46:39,633 --> 00:46:43,133
like you're coming the with

1536
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,266
people whore eligible for

1537
00:46:43,233 --> 00:46:46,233
housing, but I'm not certain

1538
00:46:44,366 --> 00:46:48,200
that there's going to be a

1539
00:46:46,333 --> 00:46:50,400
representative there from mpha

1540
00:46:48,366 --> 00:46:52,566
to offer up something, too.

1541
00:46:50,666 --> 00:46:55,200
so I don't want the woman who

1542
00:46:52,666 --> 00:46:56,833
lives in mpha to feel like s

1543
00:46:55,300 --> 00:46:58,700
has to stay somewhere she

1544
00:46:56,933 --> 00:47:00,333
doesn't want to, but the man

1545
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,200
who qualifiesor the city

1546
00:47:00,433 --> 00:47:04,933
project -- so I'm hoping to

1547
00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:09,100
see better coordination of,

1548
00:47:05,033 --> 00:47:10,833
like, how thi is launched and

1549
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,233
how it's presented to people

1550
00:47:10,933 --> 00:47:14,233
in a way to help but not

1551
00:47:13,333 --> 00:47:15,666
divide, not to make some

1552
00:47:14,333 --> 00:47:17,300
people feel likthey have an

1553
00:47:15,766 --> 00:47:17,933
option and others to feel like

1554
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,833
they don't.

1555
00:47:18,016 --> 00:47:21,566
and I guess that's wha I'm

1556
00:47:19,933 --> 00:47:23,100
gonna be looking to make sure

1557
00:47:21,933 --> 00:47:24,833
is happening because if I talk

1558
00:47:23,266 --> 00:47:26,800
to people from there, I don't

1559
00:47:25,166 --> 00:47:28,333
know, like, if they have a

1560
00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:28,666
voucher or -- you know wha I

1561
00:47:28,433 --> 00:47:30,200
mean?

1562
00:47:28,766 --> 00:47:31,933
you don't know who has what

1563
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:34,666
and it just feels better,

1564
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,933
like, if we go in there with a

1565
00:47:35,333 --> 00:47:38,066
coordinated plan with everyone

1566
00:47:36,033 --> 00:47:40,266
who should be at the table to

1567
00:47:38,166 --> 00:47:44,100
help, going in together, you

1568
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,066
ow, hosting people at the

1569
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,733
reception cter to come in

1570
00:47:45,166 --> 00:47:48,600
andet help if they need it

1571
00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:51,333
on all sides of this and not

1572
00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:52,400
feeling like theity can only

1573
00:47:51,466 --> 00:47:54,033
lp how many families and we

1574
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:54,800
don't know what's gonna hapn

1575
00:47:54,133 --> 00:47:58,750
with other people.

1576
00:47:55,866 --> 00:47:59,500
» Yeah, chair chair

1577
00:47:58,866 --> 00:48:01,833
chowdhury, council member

1578
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,000
vetaw, I agree with you on all

1579
00:48:01,933 --> 00:48:04,633
those pois f. We reflect

1580
00:48:03,666 --> 00:48:06,066
back on what council member

1581
00:48:04,733 --> 00:48:07,066
warren has said, information

1582
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,900
has not been clear.

1583
00:48:07,366 --> 00:48:11,400
it is now important, more than

1584
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,333
ever, to have clarity of a

1585
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:15,400
message and coordination of a

1586
00:48:13,533 --> 00:48:17,366
message so we're working with

1587
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:18,733
mpha t do exactly what you're

1588
00:48:17,466 --> 00:48:20,366
talking about is to have both,

1589
00:48:18,833 --> 00:48:21,133
we do not want to cause

1590
00:48:20,466 --> 00:48:24,400
segregation within the

1591
00:48:21,233 --> 00:48:26,933
community.

1592
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,433
» Next we have up in queue,

1593
00:48:27,033 --> 00:48:28,900
council member shaffer.

1594
00:48:27,633 --> 00:48:32,500
» Yh, a couple questions.

1595
00:48:30,733 --> 00:48:34,833
is srf the srs consulting that

1596
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,900
works closely with mprb, is it

1597
00:48:34,933 --> 00:48:36,800
that same organization that's

1598
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,733
working with public works?

1599
00:48:37,433 --> 00:48:40,733
» Chair chowdhury, council

1600
00:48:39,833 --> 00:48:41,400
member shaffer, I would

1601
00:48:40,833 --> 00:48:43,866
suspect, yes.

1602
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:45,000
» Right off of 394?

1603
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,266
» Yeah.

1604
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:49,466
» Thank you, that's helpful.

1605
00:48:47,366 --> 00:48:50,666
can you speak a little b to

1606
00:48:49,566 --> 00:48:51,633
the fund that we allocated and

1607
00:48:50,766 --> 00:48:52,766
what you anticipate spending

1608
00:48:51,733 --> 00:48:55,633
out of that fund?

1609
00:48:53,033 --> 00:48:56,700
it seemsike even with 83

1610
00:48:55,833 --> 00:48:57,900
households, if they were five

1611
00:48:57,033 --> 00:48:58,466
bedrooms, that's not even

1612
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,900
million dollars yet.

1613
00:48:58,733 --> 00:49:00,666
so I'm just trying to

1614
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,400
understand, you know, some of

1615
00:49:00,833 --> 00:49:03,500
it was for repairs, somef it

1616
00:49:02,833 --> 00:49:05,233
was for relocation.

1617
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:07,000
can you speak a little bit to,

1618
00:49:05,333 --> 00:49:08,533
you know, that was kd of a

1619
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:08,800
broad umbrella direction to

1620
00:49:08,633 --> 00:49:09,933
help you.

1621
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:12,333
can you just speak to where

1622
00:49:10,133 --> 00:49:13,466
you areight now with, okay,

1623
00:49:12,433 --> 00:49:14,800
how much of that repair is

1624
00:49:13,566 --> 00:49:16,300
actually going to happen or is

1625
00:49:14,966 --> 00:49:19,033
that all going to relocation?

1626
00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:20,700
» Chair chowdhury, uncil

1627
00:49:19,133 --> 00:49:22,200
member shaffer, I'll give some

1628
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,066
context for people because it

1629
00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:27,800
gets complicated.

1630
00:49:24,483 --> 00:49:29,900
when we presented the $2.5

1631
00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:33,400
million, that was a number

1632
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,933
that was for -- primarily for

1633
00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:36,133
short-term rehab costs.

1634
00:49:34,033 --> 00:49:37,333
it was for roofing, it was for

1635
00:49:36,233 --> 00:49:38,666
hvac improvements, and it was

1636
00:49:37,433 --> 00:49:40,633
for unit turns.

1637
00:49:38,766 --> 00:49:41,733
and it went so quickly in the

1638
00:49:40,733 --> 00:49:43,033
last week before we were in

1639
00:49:41,833 --> 00:49:45,233
front of the council that we

1640
00:49:43,133 --> 00:49:46,566
added t relocation and

1641
00:49:45,333 --> 00:49:48,400
communicated to the council

1642
00:49:46,666 --> 00:49:49,400
that we've been working on

1643
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,900
prioritizi relocation.

1644
00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:53,766
and, so, that money came from

1645
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,100
the affordable housing trust

1646
00:49:53,866 --> 00:49:57,800
fund.

1647
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:59,666
we're looking at the

1648
00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:00,433
discretions with cped about

1649
00:49:59,766 --> 00:50:01,633
where it would go.

1650
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,000
we could not get to how much

1651
00:50:01,733 --> 00:50:04,800
it would cost to relocate

1652
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:06,966
until we have a plan, and that

1653
00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:08,300
will come out of ts policy.

1654
00:50:07,066 --> 00:50:08,633
that will give you the

1655
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,300
benefits.

1656
00:50:08,733 --> 00:50:11,933
and to your point, it's, you

1657
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,900
know, going to probably not

1658
00:50:12,033 --> 00:50:14,866
exceed $2.5 million.

1659
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:18,366
we will have to pay the

1660
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,466
relocation consultant.

1661
00:50:18,533 --> 00:50:22,300
so thas the negotiation that

1662
00:50:19,566 --> 00:50:25,700
we're working on, that's goingt5

1663
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:27,466
million.

1664
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,533
undetermined at this point.

1665
00:50:27,566 --> 00:50:29,866
and then we're looking at th

1666
00:50:29,633 --> 00:50:30,966
long term.

1667
00:50:29,966 --> 00:50:33,566
like I don't know if we are

1668
00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:35,866
going to authorize

1669
00:50:33,666 --> 00:50:37,066
improvements, you know, we'

1670
00:50:35,966 --> 00:50:37,933
focused primarily on making

1671
00:50:37,166 --> 00:50:38,533
sure we have mey for

1672
00:50:38,033 --> 00:50:40,033
relocation.

1673
00:50:38,633 --> 00:50:43,433
after that, we could have

1674
00:50:40,133 --> 00:50:45,066
funding available for rehab.

1675
00:50:43,533 --> 00:50:46,500
unfortunately, I don't know if

1676
00:50:45,166 --> 00:50:47,266
that's worth it without a

1677
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,300
global plan.

1678
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,433
so cped has bn working on

1679
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,166
the global plan with the

1680
00:50:51,533 --> 00:50:55,466
receiver, mpha, and the

1681
00:50:54,266 --> 00:50:56,766
property manager, and that is

1682
00:50:55,566 --> 00:50:57,766
going to require tens of

1683
00:50:56,866 --> 00:50:57,966
millions o dollars in rehab

1684
00:50:57,866 --> 00:50:58,966
costs.

1685
00:50:58,066 --> 00:51:00,266
and I think that might be our

1686
00:50:59,066 --> 00:51:02,033
focus.

1687
00:51:00,366 --> 00:51:02,966
we might be tacting towards

1688
00:51:02,133 --> 00:51:05,333
that focus and you might see

1689
00:51:03,333 --> 00:51:06,966
that the $2.5 million isn't

1690
00:51:05,433 --> 00:51:08,833
fully exhausted through this,

1691
00:51:07,066 --> 00:51:10,566
but it's still too early to be

1692
00:51:08,933 --> 00:51:11,566
known but we'll be reporti

1693
00:51:10,666 --> 00:51:12,533
out on expenses.

1694
00:51:11,666 --> 00:51:12,833
we're starting with

1695
00:51:12,633 --> 00:51:15,233
relocation.

1696
00:51:12,966 --> 00:51:17,666
» Okay.before thursday, I would

1697
00:51:15,333 --> 00:51:21,300
really like to understand what

1698
00:51:17,766 --> 00:51:22,400
we're paying to srp, is it a

1699
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,700
percentage, is it a flat rate?

1700
00:51:22,766 --> 00:51:26,033
I mean, this is getting back

1701
00:51:24,066 --> 00:51:28,433
to the fiscal note that

1702
00:51:26,133 --> 00:51:30,066
council member chowdhury was.

1703
00:51:28,533 --> 00:51:31,433
so, I would like to have that

1704
00:51:30,233 --> 00:51:31,966
be public knowledge what we're

1705
00:51:31,533 --> 00:51:34,250
paying out of the fund.

1706
00:51:32,066 --> 00:51:35,700
and then also, is that whole

1707
00:51:34,366 --> 00:51:37,000
$2.5 then -- I thought it was

1708
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,400
for repairs and relocation.

1709
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,833
but that needs to be clarified

1710
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:43,233
to the counc.

1711
00:51:41,300 --> 00:51:44,333
is it all now 2.5 going to

1712
00:51:43,333 --> 00:51:45,333
relocation, that seemsike

1713
00:51:44,433 --> 00:51:46,400
that's going to be more than

1714
00:51:45,533 --> 00:51:47,466
what we really need.

1715
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:51,033
but I'd like to understand

1716
00:51:47,566 --> 00:51:51,766
what we've already spent on

1717
00:51:51,133 --> 00:51:53,833
hvac, et cetera, et cetera.

1718
00:51:51,866 --> 00:51:55,133
was thatot out of the $2.5,

1719
00:51:54,066 --> 00:51:56,800
that was a different fund?

1720
00:51:56,133 --> 00:51:58,733
» Yeah.

1721
00:51:56,900 --> 00:52:00,533
chair chowdhury, council

1722
00:51:58,833 --> 00:52:02,600
member shaffer, w have

1723
00:52:00,633 --> 00:52:03,366
$500,000 in the city's budget

1724
00:52:02,700 --> 00:52:06,333
for ritage park.

1725
00:52:03,466 --> 00:52:07,400
that is being negotiatedor

1726
00:52:06,433 --> 00:52:11,133
air conditioning and hvac

1727
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:13,333
equipment now.

1728
00:52:11,433 --> 00:52:15,166
the status of the building

1729
00:52:13,433 --> 00:52:16,600
conditions exceed the

1730
00:52:15,266 --> 00:52:18,366
available cash that are in

1731
00:52:16,700 --> 00:52:20,000
that $2.5.

1732
00:52:18,466 --> 00:52:20,966
so, again, back to that

1733
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:22,966
threshold question I continue

1734
00:52:21,066 --> 00:52:24,066
to bring up, is it worth

1735
00:52:23,066 --> 00:52:27,900
putting funding in it if we

1736
00:52:24,166 --> 00:52:28,500
don't have the global

1737
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,700
financing package and that's

1738
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,200
going to cost tens of millions

1739
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,766
of dollars.

1740
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:32,633
the city will potentially --

1741
00:52:31,866 --> 00:52:33,166
we'll be asked to participate

1742
00:52:32,733 --> 00:52:34,800
in that.

1743
00:52:33,266 --> 00:52:36,433
that will be likely, you know,

1744
00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:38,733
housing revenue bonds or

1745
00:52:36,533 --> 00:52:39,966
other, you know, financial

1746
00:52:38,833 --> 00:52:41,166
instruments to help with that

1747
00:52:40,066 --> 00:52:43,133
full thing.

1748
00:52:41,266 --> 00:52:46,333
when it comes to the

1749
00:52:43,233 --> 00:52:47,300
relocation consultants, srf

1750
00:52:46,433 --> 00:52:49,033
that we're negotiating with, I

1751
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,133
will say it's in the hundreds

1752
00:52:49,133 --> 00:52:51,666
of thousands of dollars.

1753
00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:53,200
it is a fee for a service, not

1754
00:52:52,066 --> 00:52:54,166
a percenta, it's not as if

1755
00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:57,366
they find something and the

1756
00:52:54,266 --> 00:53:02,033
get a percentage off, it's a

1757
00:52:57,466 --> 00:53:02,800
fee fee for their work.

1758
00:53:02,133 --> 00:53:04,666
we're still negotiating that.

1759
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,666
I can give you as best I can

1760
00:53:05,333 --> 00:53:08,400
by thursday.

1761
00:53:05,766 --> 00:53:11,333
but we won't have that scope

1762
00:53:08,500 --> 00:53:12,900
of work in place by thursday.

1763
00:53:11,433 --> 00:53:15,933
take off a couple hundred

1764
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,466
thousand for that srf work.

1765
00:53:16,083 --> 00:53:18,466
we might have some available.

1766
00:53:17,566 --> 00:53:20,966
you'll hear fro cped, we're

1767
00:53:18,566 --> 00:53:22,600
not going to exhaust that $2.5

1768
00:53:21,066 --> 00:53:23,700
million if it means putting

1769
00:53:22,700 --> 00:53:26,000
money into rehab that's not

1770
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,000
going to get to the end goal.

1771
00:53:26,266 --> 00:53:30,966
» I appreciate that.

1772
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:32,800
can y speak to who's

1773
00:53:31,066 --> 00:53:34,433
responsible for the repairs?

1774
00:53:33,733 --> 00:53:34,966
» It's the owner o the

1775
00:53:34,533 --> 00:53:35,900
property.

1776
00:53:35,066 --> 00:53:38,900
the owner of the property

1777
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:41,866
right now is mccormack baron

1778
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:45,700
zal cza and they have it in

1779
00:53:41,966 --> 00:53:47,466
reefership.so certus financial s

1780
00:53:45,900 --> 00:53:48,233
operating as the

1781
00:53:47,566 --> 00:53:50,066
court-apinted receivership,

1782
00:53:48,333 --> 00:53:50,733
which means they have all the

1783
00:53:50,166 --> 00:53:51,133
ownership duties and

1784
00:53:50,833 --> 00:53:52,500
responsibilities.

1785
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,033
but it's up to them to come up

1786
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,900
with the property.

1787
00:53:54,133 --> 00:53:58,033
and they can come to us like

1788
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,900
all other housing developers

1789
00:53:58,133 --> 00:54:02,633
for financing, but in my

1790
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,633
opinion, it's not the city's

1791
00:54:02,733 --> 00:54:05,166
responsibility to write a

1792
00:54:03,733 --> 00:54:05,900
blank check to the owner of

1793
00:54:05,266 --> 00:54:08,766
the property.

1794
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,533
disalz arrest.

1795
00:54:08,866 --> 00:54:10,733
salz cza is.

1796
00:54:09,700 --> 00:54:11,366
» Thank you for clarifying

1797
00:54:10,833 --> 00:54:14,300
that.

1798
00:54:12,233 --> 00:54:15,500
» It sounds like there's alegit

1799
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,700
in ter of the estimate and I

1800
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,666
think that should be something

1801
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,200
that's sent to thentirety of

1802
00:54:18,766 --> 00:54:21,533
the body.

1803
00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:21,900
next we'll go to council

1804
00:54:21,633 --> 00:54:23,800
member whiti.

1805
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,100
» Thank you, chair chowdhury.

1806
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:27,166
and I think maybe just a

1807
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,033
threshold question, first, to

1808
00:54:27,266 --> 00:54:30,933
make sure I'm hearing this

1809
00:54:30,133 --> 00:54:32,666
correctly, too

1810
00:54:31,033 --> 00:54:33,766
director, can you kind of

1811
00:54:32,766 --> 00:54:34,800
explain, I had the same

1812
00:54:33,866 --> 00:54:35,633
question that counc member

1813
00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:36,633
shaffer does, particularly

1814
00:54:35,733 --> 00:54:39,666
about the money at the moment.

1815
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,366
so it sounds like the $2.5

1816
00:54:39,766 --> 00:54:44,300
million that we allocated out

1817
00:54:41,466 --> 00:54:44,933
two weeks ago, or wheneverthat -

1818
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,500
» July.

1819
00:54:45,433 --> 00:54:49,433
» Okay, perfect.

1820
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,000
that was specific to both

1821
00:54:49,533 --> 00:54:51,100
relocation and repairs?

1822
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:52,500
because it sounds lik you

1823
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,833
just said tha lot of that

1824
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,133
has been used up already.

1825
00:54:55,466 --> 00:54:57,866
» Chair chowdhury, council

1826
00:54:57,233 --> 00:55:00,600
member whiting, there has not

1827
00:54:57,966 --> 00:55:01,800
been a nickel spent on th

1828
00:55:00,700 --> 00:55:04,333
$2.5 million.

1829
00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:07,066
it is being held.

1830
00:55:05,266 --> 00:55:09,266
we have another $500,000

1831
00:55:07,166 --> 00:55:10,600
that's already in the city's

1832
00:55:09,366 --> 00:55:12,333
budget that was appropriated

1833
00:55:10,700 --> 00:55:13,566
through the budget process

1834
00:55:12,433 --> 00:55:15,200
last december.

1835
00:55:13,666 --> 00:55:17,366
that funding is for hvac.

1836
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:18,800
we're contracting that because

1837
00:55:17,466 --> 00:55:21,500
people need --hey need to be

1838
00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:24,300
able to, you know, they need

1839
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,900
air comin' in.

1840
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:28,133
we are focused, and I told the

1841
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,433
council when I was in front of

1842
00:55:28,233 --> 00:55:32,200
you, that we will focus on

1843
00:55:30,533 --> 00:55:35,433
relocation and then figure out

1844
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,633
if there's emeency needs.

1845
00:55:35,533 --> 00:55:37,866
because you delegated

1846
00:55:36,733 --> 00:55:38,133
authority to me to make some

1847
00:55:37,966 --> 00:55:39,900
decisions.

1848
00:55:38,233 --> 00:55:40,633
and o so, we're focused on

1849
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,833
the relocation needs.

1850
00:55:40,733 --> 00:55:42,900
that's why we nee this

1851
00:55:41,933 --> 00:55:44,966
policy.

1852
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,433
but as we learn as this comes

1853
00:55:45,066 --> 00:55:49,200
into more focus, we need a

1854
00:55:46,533 --> 00:55:49,466
global plan ofhat's

1855
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:50,166
happeng.

1856
00:55:49,566 --> 00:55:52,233
to council member warren's

1857
00:55:50,266 --> 00:55:54,000
point, you know, we continue

1858
00:55:52,333 --> 00:55:54,866
to learn about windows and

1859
00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:56,400
siding and roofing and all

1860
00:55:54,966 --> 00:55:57,900
those sort of things.

1861
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:02,300
and, so, we're not going to be

1862
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:03,833
able to repair the needs of

1863
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,300
heritage park with the $2.5

1864
00:56:03,933 --> 00:56:04,933
million that's bn

1865
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,566
appropriated.

1866
00:56:05,033 --> 00:56:06,233
» Okay, great.

1867
00:56:05,666 --> 00:56:07,566
thank you.

1868
00:56:06,333 --> 00:56:08,533
and, so, it sounds like, so

1869
00:56:07,666 --> 00:56:09,766
the money that you're talking

1870
00:56:08,633 --> 00:56:12,933
about that was used up quickly

1871
00:56:10,133 --> 00:56:13,700
is tt $500,000 tt was

1872
00:56:13,033 --> 00:56:16,100
already attached to?

1873
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,200
» Chair chowdhury, council

1874
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,600
member whiting, we're sti

1875
00:56:17,300 --> 00:56:18,933
contracting that.

1876
00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:19,383
I don't think that's been

1877
00:56:19,033 --> 00:56:21,100
spent, no.

1878
00:56:19,766 --> 00:56:22,333
» So what was the money that

1879
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,300
has be used up fairly quick

1880
00:56:22,433 --> 00:56:24,833
thaw mentioned?

1881
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,633
because I -- you said that

1882
00:56:24,933 --> 00:56:26,600
earlier in your presentatn.

1883
00:56:25,733 --> 00:56:28,000
you said there was a lot of

1884
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:28,766
money that's already been used

1885
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,600
to this point.

1886
00:56:28,966 --> 00:56:32,966
so I'm trying to figure out if

1887
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:33,500
that was the 2.5 or this

1888
00:56:33,366 --> 00:56:35,900
500,000.

1889
00:56:34,433 --> 00:56:36,833
» Chair chowdhurycouncil

1890
00:56:36,433 --> 00:56:38,866
member whiting, I don't

1891
00:56:36,933 --> 00:56:39,533
remember when I said that weuse.

1892
00:56:39,166 --> 00:56:41,066
» Yeah.

1893
00:56:39,733 --> 00:56:42,166
I think it was early in your

1894
00:56:41,566 --> 00:56:43,533
presentation.

1895
00:56:42,466 --> 00:56:45,800
» In my remarks?

1896
00:56:44,333 --> 00:56:46,366
» Eah.

1897
00:56:45,900 --> 00:56:47,316
answering council member

1898
00:56:46,466 --> 00:56:50,200
shaffer's question.

1899
00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:56,766
» Oh.

1900
00:56:50,650 --> 00:56:58,766
so, I'm not --

1901
00:56:56,866 --> 00:56:59,633
chair chowdhury, council

1902
00:56:58,966 --> 00:56:59,966
memb whiting, just to clear

1903
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,166
it up.

1904
00:57:01,266 --> 00:57:09,033
» Yeah, yeah, thank you.

1905
00:57:02,666 --> 00:57:09,600
» Theity of minneapolis hasapp.

1906
00:57:09,133 --> 00:57:09,833
in its

1907
00:57:09,700 --> 00:57:10,600
budget.

1908
00:57:09,933 --> 00:57:12,433
that is being contracted.

1909
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,300
it's not been spent.

1910
00:57:12,633 --> 00:57:16,466
in july you appropriated --

1911
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,066
you moved $2.5 million from

1912
00:57:16,566 --> 00:57:19,133
the affordab housing trust

1913
00:57:17,166 --> 00:57:21,433
fund into this use.

1914
00:57:19,233 --> 00:57:22,733
and that has not been used.

1915
00:57:21,533 --> 00:57:25,366
if I said we've used up a lot

1916
00:57:22,833 --> 00:57:25,933
of money really quickly, I

1917
00:57:25,466 --> 00:57:26,800
apologize for that.

1918
00:57:26,033 --> 00:57:28,000
that was an error.

1919
00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:31,200
but we have not spent it.

1920
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:32,733
I will tell you, though, the

1921
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,133
expense, what we are learning

1922
00:57:32,833 --> 00:57:36,000
is it is becoming more

1923
00:57:34,233 --> 00:57:37,300
expensive and we need a global

1924
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:37,866
solution about what happens

1925
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,066
with heritage park.

1926
00:57:37,966 --> 00:57:40,500
and in t meantime, this

1927
00:57:39,166 --> 00:57:41,800
gets -- the policy gives an

1928
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,966
option for people to relocate

1929
00:57:41,900 --> 00:57:45,300
and then we would start

1930
00:57:43,066 --> 00:57:46,166
spending money and then once

1931
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,600
we start spending money, we'll

1932
00:57:46,466 --> 00:57:49,033
be communiting that out so

1933
00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:49,500
that people understand where

1934
00:57:49,133 --> 00:57:50,666
the money is going.

1935
00:57:49,633 --> 00:57:51,433
» Thank you.

1936
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:51,966
that's helpful.

1937
00:57:51,733 --> 00:57:52,666
» Yeah.

1938
00:57:52,066 --> 00:57:54,500
» Thank you for the

1939
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,366
clarification.

1940
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,700
particarly, too, I thinky

1941
00:57:55,466 --> 00:58:00,333
first question, so you noted,

1942
00:57:59,166 --> 00:58:03,933
I guess, currently -- has

1943
00:58:00,433 --> 00:58:04,600
anyone signed up for these

1944
00:58:04,133 --> 00:58:05,866
relocation assistance as of

1945
00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:08,300
today?

1946
00:58:06,500 --> 00:58:09,166
» Chairhowdhury, council

1947
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,866
member whiting, nobody has

1948
00:58:09,266 --> 00:58:12,133
signed up for anything unde

1949
00:58:10,966 --> 00:58:13,766
the city's policy because it

1950
00:58:12,266 --> 00:58:14,966
esn't exist yet.

1951
00:58:13,900 --> 00:58:15,533
that's been the -- that was

1952
00:58:15,066 --> 00:58:17,066
the barrier.

1953
00:58:15,633 --> 00:58:17,666
like we couldn't give people

1954
00:58:17,166 --> 00:58:20,333
relocation assistance because

1955
00:58:17,766 --> 00:58:21,233
we don't have the -- didn't

1956
00:58:20,433 --> 00:58:22,233
have the authority based on

1957
00:58:21,333 --> 00:58:23,100
our conversations with the

1958
00:58:22,333 --> 00:58:24,300
enterprise.

1959
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,233
that's why we have to have

1960
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,600
the communication component t

1961
00:58:25,333 --> 00:58:27,666
it so that we can communicate,

1962
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:29,233
here is what's available,

1963
00:58:27,766 --> 00:58:30,566
here's how you access it, this

1964
00:58:29,433 --> 00:58:31,866
is the process, all of those

1965
00:58:30,666 --> 00:58:32,966
sort of things that are going

1966
00:58:32,133 --> 00:58:33,200
to become very important very

1967
00:58:33,066 --> 00:58:33,866
soon.

1968
00:58:33,466 --> 00:58:35,566
» Yea

1969
00:58:34,033 --> 00:58:41,366
do we know if anyone has

1970
00:58:35,666 --> 00:58:41,766
signed up for mpha's transfer

1971
00:58:41,466 --> 00:58:43,733
assistance yet?

1972
00:58:42,366 --> 00:58:45,066
» Chair chowdhury, council

1973
00:58:43,833 --> 00:58:46,033
member whiting, we are

1974
00:58:45,166 --> 00:58:49,100
familiar with about 32

1975
00:58:46,133 --> 00:58:52,066
households that have interest

1976
00:58:49,633 --> 00:58:53,500
in this.

1977
00:58:52,166 --> 00:58:53,733
that are working with public

1978
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,500
housing.

1979
00:58:53,833 --> 00:58:56,566
I will say that there are four

1980
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,566
households that have expressed

1981
00:58:56,766 --> 00:59:00,066
interest in the city's program

1982
00:58:57,666 --> 00:59:02,400
when it starts.

1983
00:59:00,166 --> 00:59:03,366
but I think there will be -- I

1984
00:59:02,500 --> 00:59:05,766
think there will be more

1985
00:59:03,466 --> 00:59:08,400
people that will show interest

1986
00:59:05,866 --> 00:59:10,466
once they know what the

1987
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,266
program is.

1988
00:59:10,900 --> 00:59:13,533
what the benefit is  once

1989
00:59:12,366 --> 00:59:14,733
the benefit is articulated, we

1990
00:59:13,633 --> 00:59:15,433
will hear from more residents.

1991
00:59:14,933 --> 00:59:17,300
» Perfect.

1992
00:59:15,700 --> 00:59:18,766
I guess my last question here

1993
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,633
is, is there a reason, is

1994
00:59:18,866 --> 00:59:24,833
there som policy or kind of

1995
00:59:22,733 --> 00:59:25,933
reason why it's been sort of

1996
00:59:25,166 --> 00:59:27,033
differentiated between mpha

1997
00:59:26,033 --> 00:59:28,666
and the city of minneapolis?

1998
00:59:27,133 --> 00:59:30,533
why isn't that we're also --

1999
00:59:28,766 --> 00:59:32,266
like mpha residents an't

2000
00:59:30,633 --> 00:59:32,733
also able to use city-funded

2001
00:59:32,366 --> 00:59:36,366
dollars?

2002
00:59:33,333 --> 00:59:37,000
chair chowdhury, council

2003
00:59:36,466 --> 00:59:39,000
member whiting, I think it's

2004
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:39,566
important for the minneapolis

2005
00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:41,566
public housing authority to

2006
00:59:39,666 --> 00:59:42,666
take care of its residents.

2007
00:59:41,666 --> 00:59:43,666
they haveesponsibility to

2008
00:59:42,766 --> 00:59:45,833
the residents that are in

2009
00:59:43,766 --> 00:59:47,700
their care.

2010
00:59:45,933 --> 00:59:48,800
the city is making

2011
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,900
discretionary decision to help

2012
00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:52,433
folks at heritage park for the

2013
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,800
reasons we've articulated over

2014
00:59:52,533 --> 00:59:56,033
the last few council meetings

2015
00:59:53,900 --> 00:59:56,900
with you on this subject.

2016
00:59:56,133 --> 00:59:58,233
and, so, I think it's the

2017
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,533
right thing that the city is

2018
00:59:58,333 --> 01:00:00,266
doing.

2019
00:59:58,633 --> 01:00:02,266
but w need to make sure that

2020
01:00:00,366 --> 01:00:04,200
the mpha uses their resources

2021
01:00:02,366 --> 01:00:06,300
for the mph units, and then we

2022
01:00:04,300 --> 01:00:08,200
can provide for the ones that

2023
01:00:06,533 --> 01:00:11,266
do not qualify for them.

2024
01:00:09,233 --> 01:00:13,433
» But seems like like there's

2025
01:00:11,433 --> 01:00:15,633
no policy that could preclude

2026
01:00:13,533 --> 01:00:17,166
us from assisting with the

2027
01:00:15,666 --> 01:00:18,733
mpha residents if needed?

2028
01:00:17,266 --> 01:00:19,600
» Chair chowdhury, cncil

2029
01:00:18,833 --> 01:00:20,900
member whiting, I'm not

2030
01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:21,200
certain if there's policy or

2031
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,066
not.

2032
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:26,266
I know that the city has some

2033
01:00:23,666 --> 01:00:27,666
restrictions on how we are

2034
01:00:26,366 --> 01:00:30,000
managing or potentially

2035
01:00:27,766 --> 01:00:30,866
interfering with public

2036
01:00:30,533 --> 01:00:33,600
housing operations.

2037
01:00:30,966 --> 01:00:36,000
I could look at it, if there's

2038
01:00:33,700 --> 01:00:37,733
like a definitive choice.

2039
01:00:36,500 --> 01:00:38,766
I mean, what can we do say

2040
01:00:37,833 --> 01:00:39,100
question and what should we

2041
01:00:38,866 --> 01:00:40,300
do.

2042
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:41,000
and I'm going to tell you the

2043
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,066
policy that we have in front

2044
01:00:41,133 --> 01:00:42,600
of you is the thing that we

2045
01:00:42,166 --> 01:00:43,900
should be doing.

2046
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:47,166
» Helpful.

2047
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,600
I think just to both councilmeml

2048
01:00:47,300 --> 01:00:49,833
mber vetaw's comments,

2049
01:00:48,700 --> 01:00:50,833
right, if we are starting to

2050
01:00:49,933 --> 01:00:53,433
see some discrepancies

2051
01:00:50,933 --> 01:00:54,833
between, I think, certain

2052
01:00:53,533 --> 01:00:57,000
programs that we're seeg an

2053
01:00:54,933 --> 01:00:59,566
extended wait time for mpha or

2054
01:00:57,100 --> 01:01:01,100
city of minneapolis, kind of

2055
01:00:59,666 --> 01:01:02,066
the two different programs, I

2056
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,266
think there might be an

2057
01:01:02,300 --> 01:01:05,700
ability, it sounds lik to

2058
01:01:03,366 --> 01:01:07,433
kind of assist where needed.

2059
01:01:06,116 --> 01:01:08,633
» Chair chohury, council

2060
01:01:07,866 --> 01:01:09,733
member whiting, the first

2061
01:01:08,733 --> 01:01:11,266
approach to that is to make

2062
01:01:09,833 --> 01:01:12,933
sure that we're working as

2063
01:01:11,366 --> 01:01:15,133
quicy as possible at the

2064
01:01:13,033 --> 01:01:17,466
same pace.

2065
01:01:15,433 --> 01:01:18,600
and hold the mpha to the same

2066
01:01:17,566 --> 01:01:18,933
standards that we would hold

2067
01:01:18,700 --> 01:01:19,233
ourselves to.

2068
01:01:19,033 --> 01:01:19,600
» Perfect.

2069
01:01:19,333 --> 01:01:23,666
thank you.

2070
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,533
» Yeah.

2071
01:01:24,033 --> 01:01:27,366
» Thank y.

2072
01:01:24,633 --> 01:01:33,533
I put myself in queue next.

2073
01:01:27,466 --> 01:01:34,600
so, I was able to reference a

2074
01:01:33,633 --> 01:01:36,366
policy that kind of followed

2075
01:01:35,033 --> 01:01:40,466
the same policy framework and

2076
01:01:36,466 --> 01:01:40,983
this was like the perpetually

2077
01:01:40,566 --> 01:01:41,700
affordable housing program

2078
01:01:41,566 --> 01:01:42,933
changes.

2079
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,566
so that was helpful for me to

2080
01:01:43,033 --> 01:01:48,633
look back on myself.

2081
01:01:44,666 --> 01:01:51,733
the thing that I feel like we

2082
01:01:48,733 --> 01:01:52,700
need on this rca by thursday

2083
01:01:51,833 --> 01:01:54,466
in order for me to vote on

2084
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,833
this is a fiscal note because

2085
01:01:54,566 --> 01:01:58,433
there is clearly a fiscal

2086
01:01:57,933 --> 01:02:00,366
impact.

2087
01:01:58,533 --> 01:02:01,566
it says currently in the rca

2088
01:02:00,466 --> 01:02:03,200
that there is no fiscal

2089
01:02:01,666 --> 01:02:04,166
impact, but we know in this

2090
01:02:03,300 --> 01:02:05,966
discussion that there will be.

2091
01:02:04,566 --> 01:02:07,833
so if we could update an

2092
01:02:06,066 --> 01:02:09,600
estimate within the fiscal

2093
01:02:07,933 --> 01:02:11,333
note for transparency in the

2094
01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:13,166
work that we're doi.

2095
01:02:11,500 --> 01:02:14,833
is that something you can do?

2096
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,800
» Chair chowdhury, I can

2097
01:02:14,933 --> 01:02:16,100
explain why there isn't a

2098
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:16,366
fiscal note.

2099
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,233
» Yeah.

2100
01:02:16,666 --> 01:02:22,400
» So this is a policy that is

2101
01:02:18,333 --> 01:02:23,733
being appended -- is the next

2102
01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:25,233
step from the appropriation

2103
01:02:23,833 --> 01:02:26,800
that you guys approved, which

2104
01:02:25,333 --> 01:02:27,666
does have a fiscal note, back

2105
01:02:26,900 --> 01:02:28,533
in july.

2106
01:02:27,766 --> 01:02:30,000
and, so, this is just t

2107
01:02:28,633 --> 01:02:31,200
policy that helps us direct

2108
01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:32,400
how to use the funding that

2109
01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:34,600
was moved from the affordable

2110
01:02:32,733 --> 01:02:35,366
housing trust fund into this

2111
01:02:34,700 --> 01:02:35,800
appropriation for heritage

2112
01:02:35,466 --> 01:02:37,100
park.

2113
01:02:35,900 --> 01:02:37,966
but we can bring thatiscal

2114
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,400
note back up.

2115
01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:41,500
» I think that's really

2116
01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:44,533
important becau when the

2117
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,383
public reads this, it says no

2118
01:02:44,633 --> 01:02:47,066
fiscal impact anticipated so

2119
01:02:45,500 --> 01:02:47,733
even if it's the same fiscal

2120
01:02:47,166 --> 01:02:49,166
note, I think it's important

2121
01:02:47,833 --> 01:02:50,966
because a lot of folks are

2122
01:02:49,266 --> 01:02:52,200
following this closely and in

2123
01:02:51,066 --> 01:02:53,866
the future we might need to

2124
01:02:52,300 --> 01:02:59,233
look back on it.

2125
01:02:53,966 --> 01:03:01,933
the other thing is, there

2126
01:02:59,333 --> 01:03:02,166
isn't a rhea attached to it

2127
01:03:02,033 --> 01:03:04,266
either.

2128
01:03:02,266 --> 01:03:05,066
and I think a race equity

2129
01:03:04,366 --> 01:03:08,433
analysis would be really

2130
01:03:05,166 --> 01:03:09,966
important for this poly.

2131
01:03:08,533 --> 01:03:11,700
rea.

2132
01:03:10,066 --> 01:03:14,766
I think as a legislati

2133
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,966
follow-up, it's like once this

2134
01:03:14,866 --> 01:03:16,666
is completed whatappens to

2135
01:03:16,066 --> 01:03:18,933
this policy?

2136
01:03:16,766 --> 01:03:19,600
like what's the -- is it

2137
01:03:19,033 --> 01:03:21,533
sunsetted?

2138
01:03:19,700 --> 01:03:22,433
does the department just make

2139
01:03:21,633 --> 01:03:24,200
a call?

2140
01:03:22,533 --> 01:03:25,200
because for our perpetually

2141
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:26,733
affordable housing program,

2142
01:03:25,300 --> 01:03:29,333
that just continues, right?

2143
01:03:27,433 --> 01:03:32,333
» Chair chowdhury, the intent

2144
01:03:29,433 --> 01:03:32,566
of this policy is to be time

2145
01:03:32,433 --> 01:03:35,566
limited.

2146
01:03:32,666 --> 01:03:37,433
you would have to move by the

2147
01:03:35,666 --> 01:03:39,300
31st of -- you'd hav to

2148
01:03:37,533 --> 01:03:40,900
tell you also by the 15th

2149
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,133
of october and move by t end

2150
01:03:41,033 --> 01:03:46,566
of january of next year with a

2151
01:03:43,233 --> 01:03:47,866
six-month bfer for

2152
01:03:47,333 --> 01:03:49,700
circumstances, but then this

2153
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:51,600
is tailored exactly to

2154
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,033
heritage park relocation at

2155
01:03:51,700 --> 01:03:54,566
this moment.

2156
01:03:52,333 --> 01:03:55,666
so it would be unique to this

2157
01:03:54,666 --> 01:04:00,166
situation and it would not

2158
01:03:55,766 --> 01:04:02,166
live on after the last person

2159
01:04:00,266 --> 01:04:03,700
took advantage of the policy.

2160
01:04:02,333 --> 01:04:06,633
» Okay.

2161
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:08,066
and are you able to attach a

2162
01:04:06,733 --> 01:04:08,600
rea to this as you have for

2163
01:04:08,166 --> 01:04:10,400
other programs?

2164
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,533
» Chair chowdhury, we'll do

2165
01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:11,800
our best between now and

2166
01:04:11,633 --> 01:04:12,133
thursday.

2167
01:04:11,900 --> 01:04:13,133
» Yeah.

2168
01:04:12,233 --> 01:04:14,133
and I appreciate that you're

2169
01:04:13,233 --> 01:04:15,433
doing your best, and I think

2170
01:04:14,233 --> 01:04:18,033
we're moving this through

2171
01:04:16,266 --> 01:04:19,800
really quickly.

2172
01:04:18,133 --> 01:04:21,000
and at the same time, like,

2173
01:04:19,900 --> 01:04:25,700
director, you're providing us

2174
01:04:21,533 --> 01:04:26,166
very dense policy with very

2175
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,233
significant financial

2176
01:04:26,266 --> 01:04:28,766
implications for the city and

2177
01:04:28,333 --> 01:04:30,166
implications for residents

2178
01:04:28,866 --> 01:04:33,033
here.

2179
01:04:30,266 --> 01:04:34,400
and, so, just the basics of

2180
01:04:33,133 --> 01:04:36,300
this request for committee

2181
01:04:34,766 --> 01:04:38,833
action are really important to

2182
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,166
me because I think not having

2183
01:04:38,933 --> 01:04:41,166
it today is positing more

2184
01:04:40,266 --> 01:04:43,233
questions tha I anticipated.

2185
01:04:41,866 --> 01:04:43,433
so that's why I'm asking for

2186
01:04:43,316 --> 01:04:44,433
that.

2187
01:04:44,066 --> 01:04:46,100
» Yeah.

2188
01:04:44,533 --> 01:04:47,233
chair chowdhury, I would say

2189
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,900
that I think it's important

2190
01:04:47,333 --> 01:04:50,566
and imperative for the city to

2191
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,566
move.

2192
01:04:50,666 --> 01:04:54,000
if we're thinking about the

2193
01:04:51,666 --> 01:04:57,266
racial equity impactf not

2194
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:59,733
acting, we're putting people

2195
01:04:57,366 --> 01:05:01,300
in, you know, communities of

2196
01:04:59,833 --> 01:05:01,966
color, black folks in north

2197
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,966
minneapolis in circumstanc

2198
01:05:02,066 --> 01:05:03,400
where they cnot get out of.

2199
01:05:03,133 --> 01:05:05,700
» Yes.

2200
01:05:03,833 --> 01:05:07,566
» So we can put that into an

2201
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:11,166
analysis, but I c tellou,

2202
01:05:07,666 --> 01:05:12,900
just off the top, this is

2203
01:05:11,266 --> 01:05:13,800
addressing community need

2204
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,333
exactly where the community

2205
01:05:13,900 --> 01:05:15,966
needs us to be.

2206
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:17,233
» Yeah.

2207
01:05:16,483 --> 01:05:19,500
I 100% hear you.

2208
01:05:17,333 --> 01:05:19,800
and I'm not debating that

2209
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,066
whatsoever.

2210
01:05:19,900 --> 01:05:23,866
but there's a level of

2211
01:05:22,166 --> 01:05:26,066
oversight that's necessary for

2212
01:05:23,966 --> 01:05:26,966
us to do our work, and I'm

2213
01:05:26,166 --> 01:05:27,133
genuinely just struggling with

2214
01:05:27,066 --> 01:05:29,133
it.

2215
01:05:27,233 --> 01:05:31,466
this is a dense policy load

2216
01:05:29,233 --> 01:05:32,966
that's before us, and within

2217
01:05:31,566 --> 01:05:35,433
the cped department, when you

2218
01:05:33,066 --> 01:05:37,133
bring forward program changes,

2219
01:05:35,533 --> 01:05:38,700
you have a vy thorough

2220
01:05:37,233 --> 01:05:40,333
background analysis and

2221
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,966
reas, you always do, and as

2222
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,166
a committee member of the

2223
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,166
business, housing, zoning

2224
01:05:43,266 --> 01:05:46,366
committee, I rely on those and

2225
01:05:45,266 --> 01:05:47,700
have relied on those for

2226
01:05:46,466 --> 01:05:49,333
agenda settings and on items

2227
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,766
that we have to vote on

2228
01:05:49,433 --> 01:05:50,066
because they can be

2229
01:05:49,866 --> 01:05:51,633
complicated.

2230
01:05:50,166 --> 01:05:53,516
so I do think it's a fair ask

2231
01:05:51,733 --> 01:05:55,066
to say that we need that and I

2232
01:05:53,633 --> 01:05:56,466
don't think it's in

2233
01:05:55,166 --> 01:05:57,366
competition with moving

2234
01:05:56,566 --> 01:05:58,533
urgently, but it's like, thi

2235
01:05:57,633 --> 01:06:00,533
is the legislative body, this

2236
01:05:58,633 --> 01:06:01,200
is what we need to -- I'll

2237
01:06:00,733 --> 01:06:04,266
just speak for myself.

2238
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,866
this is what I need in order

2239
01:06:04,433 --> 01:06:06,133
to make such a significa

2240
01:06:05,966 --> 01:06:08,300
change

2241
01:06:06,833 --> 01:06:11,366
I mean, if other members are

2242
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:13,033
fine with that, that's -- I

2243
01:06:11,466 --> 01:06:14,433
totally understand that, but I

2244
01:06:13,133 --> 01:06:16,300
want to -- I want to say, I

2245
01:06:14,533 --> 01:06:17,200
know that there are council

2246
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:17,966
members that are wondering the

2247
01:06:17,300 --> 01:06:20,500
same thing.

2248
01:06:18,300 --> 01:06:23,033
and also getting questions

2249
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:25,000
from constituents,he media

2250
01:06:23,633 --> 01:06:26,733
at I can't answer.

2251
01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:28,933
that's difficult, especially

2252
01:06:26,833 --> 01:06:29,500
when I take an affirmative

2253
01:06:29,033 --> 01:06:30,333
vote on something.

2254
01:06:29,766 --> 01:06:32,466
» Right.

2255
01:06:30,433 --> 01:06:35,000
» And I think we are all in

2256
01:06:32,566 --> 01:06:36,933
super shared agreement on the

2257
01:06:35,100 --> 01:06:38,333
urgency and the need,

2258
01:06:37,033 --> 01:06:40,066
especially the race equity

2259
01:06:38,433 --> 01:06:42,233
components of it.

2260
01:06:40,166 --> 01:06:43,300
just having that clarity, I'm

2261
01:06:42,333 --> 01:06:44,533
just stating it's just not

2262
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:44,966
there fully in the way that it

2263
01:06:44,633 --> 01:06:47,066
needs to be.

2264
01:06:45,366 --> 01:06:47,566
» And I agree with you, chair

2265
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:48,833
chowdhury.

2266
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,933
it is important thave

2267
01:06:48,933 --> 01:06:56,066
information.

2268
01:06:51,033 --> 01:06:58,800
this situation is not -- you

2269
01:06:56,166 --> 01:07:01,100
know -- the typical approach

2270
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,566
to the way cped does its work.

2271
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,566
we're rising to meet the

2272
01:07:02,666 --> 01:07:05,000
need -- as I communicated and

2273
01:07:03,766 --> 01:07:07,833
shared in this presentation --

2274
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:08,700
we're trying to mt the needs

2275
01:07:07,933 --> 01:07:10,466
of community in a situation

2276
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:12,366
that if we had more time, we'd

2277
01:07:10,566 --> 01:07:13,333
take it and we just -- we're

2278
01:07:12,466 --> 01:07:14,233
working with imperfect

2279
01:07:13,433 --> 01:07:15,766
information, we're moving as

2280
01:07:14,466 --> 01:07:16,766
fa as we can, and we'll get

2281
01:07:15,866 --> 01:07:18,066
you as much of the information

2282
01:07:16,866 --> 01:07:18,300
as we can by thursday.

2283
01:07:18,166 --> 01:07:19,833
» Yeah.

2284
01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:22,400
and I appreciate that.

2285
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:24,366
I think, like, just the

2286
01:07:22,500 --> 01:07:25,433
clarity  the fiscal note, so

2287
01:07:24,466 --> 01:07:27,200
it doesn't say there's no

2288
01:07:25,533 --> 01:07:29,733
fiscal impact, and, like, eve

2289
01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:30,833
just diving a little bit more

2290
01:07:30,133 --> 01:07:33,000
on that sunsetting piece and

2291
01:07:30,933 --> 01:07:34,766
that type of intention.

2292
01:07:33,100 --> 01:07:36,533
the background analysis that

2293
01:07:34,866 --> 01:07:37,566
cped usually does, a little

2294
01:07:36,633 --> 01:07:38,700
bit more would be helpful.

2295
01:07:37,666 --> 01:07:40,033
and I just want to say, like,

2296
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,366
thank you for your work on

2297
01:07:40,133 --> 01:07:42,466
this and thank you to your

2298
01:07:41,466 --> 01:07:44,100
team for working on this.

2299
01:07:42,633 --> 01:07:47,433
I know it's not easy.

2300
01:07:44,266 --> 01:07:48,700
I know it's really around the

2301
01:07:47,533 --> 01:07:51,000
clock, I know thaw guys are

2302
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:53,633
really pressed for time.

2303
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:55,833
and I think that is reflective

2304
01:07:53,733 --> 01:07:56,566
of, like, this isn't the same

2305
01:07:55,933 --> 01:07:58,500
level of information that

2306
01:07:56,666 --> 01:07:59,800
shows  in our business,

2307
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,233
housing, and zoning committee.

2308
01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:02,766
so I hope you take that

2309
01:08:01,566 --> 01:08:09,466
feedback genuinely, I mean it,

2310
01:08:02,866 --> 01:08:10,766
like I appreciate it.

2311
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,966
xt on queue is council

2312
01:08:10,866 --> 01:08:16,933
member warren.

2313
01:08:13,133 --> 01:08:18,366
» Thank you, chair.

2314
01:08:17,033 --> 01:08:21,633
director hansen, we talked

2315
01:08:18,466 --> 01:08:23,166
about a couple of -- I'm

2316
01:08:21,733 --> 01:08:26,033
listening to you as you're

2317
01:08:23,633 --> 01:08:29,100
saying wt's going on with

2318
01:08:26,133 --> 01:08:30,533
this relocation program.

2319
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,833
srf firm is currently getting

2320
01:08:30,633 --> 01:08:35,700
ready to be paid $400,000 by

2321
01:08:32,933 --> 01:08:37,266
the city of minneapolis to be

2322
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,533
a fiscal agent.

2323
01:08:37,500 --> 01:08:42,566
they're only providing about

2324
01:08:38,633 --> 01:08:46,400
two staff people to support

2325
01:08:42,666 --> 01:08:48,166
with the assistance in

2326
01:08:46,500 --> 01:08:49,033
relocation when in north

2327
01:08:48,266 --> 01:08:51,733
minneapolis currently,

2328
01:08:49,333 --> 01:08:57,366
specifically, in ward 5, we

2329
01:08:51,833 --> 01:08:58,866
have organizations like alma

2330
01:08:57,466 --> 01:09:00,566
oon, northpoint and the urban

2331
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,633
league twice who are able to

2332
01:09:00,866 --> 01:09:02,866
support the residents, who are

2333
01:09:01,733 --> 01:09:04,833
working with the residents

2334
01:09:02,966 --> 01:09:06,466
because this is predominantly

2335
01:09:05,116 --> 01:09:08,566
a black and muslim community

2336
01:09:07,300 --> 01:09:10,966
so it would be beneficial for

2337
01:09:08,666 --> 01:09:12,733
them to work with individuals

2338
01:09:11,066 --> 01:09:13,800
who are connected directly

2339
01:09:12,833 --> 01:09:16,000
with their autonomy.

2340
01:09:13,900 --> 01:09:17,866
the city relocation plan

2341
01:09:16,100 --> 01:09:19,300
provides assessment, services

2342
01:09:17,966 --> 01:09:20,300
that considers schooling,

2343
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:20,933
transportation, household

2344
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:21,933
preferences, housing

2345
01:09:21,166 --> 01:09:23,700
availability, and all of these

2346
01:09:22,033 --> 01:09:25,766
very human-centered approaches

2347
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:28,166
around autonomy, then whether

2348
01:09:25,866 --> 01:09:30,033
you're a resident of public

2349
01:09:28,266 --> 01:09:32,366
housing or not, you still

2350
01:09:30,133 --> 01:09:34,200
should be given that same

2351
01:09:32,466 --> 01:09:35,100
grace and human-centeredness,

2352
01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:36,666
and the ability to work wh

2353
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,600
people that are directly

2354
01:09:36,766 --> 01:09:40,033
within your community so that

2355
01:09:37,700 --> 01:09:40,533
there is a very cultured and

2356
01:09:40,133 --> 01:09:43,233
human-centered approach.

2357
01:09:40,866 --> 01:09:45,566
I want that changed.

2358
01:09:43,333 --> 01:09:46,433
I'm n working with srf or

2359
01:09:45,666 --> 01:09:48,400
whoever those people are, if

2360
01:09:46,633 --> 01:09:49,700
we're going to pay $400,000 is

2361
01:09:48,500 --> 01:09:51,000
going to north minneapolis, we

2362
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,900
did something else like that

2363
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:53,666
already, we won't have more of

2364
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:56,833
the same.

2365
01:09:53,766 --> 01:09:59,566
next thing with this, becse

2366
01:09:56,933 --> 01:10:03,966
the other component in this is

2367
01:09:59,666 --> 01:10:05,700
that they can't articulate,

2368
01:10:04,066 --> 01:10:07,266
the residents, who are having

2369
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,333
issues around saying, yes, I

2370
01:10:07,366 --> 01:10:10,433
want to move, it's because

2371
01:10:09,566 --> 01:10:11,800
they're constantly being lied

2372
01:10:10,933 --> 01:10:13,400
to by everybody.

2373
01:10:11,900 --> 01:10:13,733
everybody keep changing the

2374
01:10:13,533 --> 01:10:15,133
story.

2375
01:10:13,833 --> 01:10:16,566
there's no consistency.

2376
01:10:15,233 --> 01:10:18,566
when I talked about this in

2377
01:10:16,666 --> 01:10:23,033
the beginning and I said,

2378
01:10:18,666 --> 01:10:24,900
housing insecurity is a real

2379
01:10:23,133 --> 01:10:26,966
thing, I don't know if you

2380
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:29,166
don't get it or you don't

2381
01:10:27,066 --> 01:10:30,933
understand when I say it,

2382
01:10:29,266 --> 01:10:32,333
like, if you don't know what

2383
01:10:31,033 --> 01:10:33,766
housing insecurity means, that

2384
01:10:32,433 --> 01:10:38,300
means the difference between

2385
01:10:33,866 --> 01:10:39,600
being housed and unhoused, the

2386
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,900
difference between m getting

2387
01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:43,633
my car towed and being able to

2388
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,433
pay my rent.

2389
01:10:43,733 --> 01:10:46,866
you know, the difference

2390
01:10:44,533 --> 01:10:48,833
between one little mistake,

2391
01:10:46,966 --> 01:10:53,533
living paycheck to paycheck,

2392
01:10:48,933 --> 01:10:55,833
the difference between buying

2393
01:10:53,633 --> 01:10:57,133
diapers and eating today means

2394
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,333
th I might not be able to

2395
01:10:57,366 --> 01:11:00,866
pay my rent tomorrow if I have

2396
01:10:59,866 --> 01:11:01,533
to spend too much or the price

2397
01:11:00,966 --> 01:11:03,166
goes up.

2398
01:11:01,633 --> 01:11:06,033
like that housing insecurity

2399
01:11:03,566 --> 01:11:07,433
is a real place.

2400
01:11:06,133 --> 01:11:11,600
the barriers that individuals

2401
01:11:08,866 --> 01:11:12,033
have to housing, background,

2402
01:11:11,700 --> 01:11:15,133
previous landlords,

2403
01:11:12,133 --> 01:11:17,200
individuals who are being

2404
01:11:15,233 --> 01:11:20,166
retaliated against in this

2405
01:11:17,333 --> 01:11:22,566
tuation, dealing with mpha

2406
01:11:20,266 --> 01:11:23,066
and property solutions now

2407
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,466
still currently.

2408
01:11:23,166 --> 01:11:26,200
there are residents who are

2409
01:11:24,566 --> 01:11:28,533
going to court and are

2410
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:33,533
experiencing housing barriers.

2411
01:11:29,366 --> 01:11:34,800
this $2.5 million that we

2412
01:11:33,633 --> 01:11:35,866
allocated towards heritag

2413
01:11:34,900 --> 01:11:39,166
park would essentially equate

2414
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:41,800
to about $12,000 per household

2415
01:11:39,266 --> 01:11:43,333
for all 211 families.

2416
01:11:41,900 --> 01:11:44,866
instead, we've discounted, and

2417
01:11:43,433 --> 01:11:45,433
we're payin' all of these

2418
01:11:44,966 --> 01:11:45,733
additional administrative

2419
01:11:45,533 --> 01:11:47,600
costs.

2420
01:11:45,833 --> 01:11:50,666
there's not anythin that

2421
01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:52,433
anyone needs to do, really,

2422
01:11:50,766 --> 01:11:52,866
essentially to qualify to

2423
01:11:52,533 --> 01:11:54,833
move.

2424
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,833
everybody is eligible.

2425
01:11:54,933 --> 01:11:57,600
they should be.

2426
01:11:55,933 --> 01:11:58,533
the truth is, it's not

2427
01:11:57,700 --> 01:12:00,333
habitable.

2428
01:11:58,633 --> 01:12:01,666
it's not anywhere that anyone

2429
01:12:00,433 --> 01:12:04,733
should want to live.

2430
01:12:01,766 --> 01:12:07,466
like it's a real place, and I

2431
01:12:04,833 --> 01:12:08,766
think that, yes, as the city

2432
01:12:07,633 --> 01:12:10,966
we can't tell people, you have

2433
01:12:09,166 --> 01:12:13,933
to go, but what we should do

2434
01:12:12,033 --> 01:12:15,566
is give them proper

2435
01:12:14,033 --> 01:12:17,566
information around the

2436
01:12:15,650 --> 01:12:18,333
implications of -- I still g

2437
01:12:17,666 --> 01:12:19,966
some -- black mold.

2438
01:12:18,633 --> 01:12:21,600
I still got some stuff growing

2439
01:12:20,166 --> 01:12:22,533
on my arm from being out tre

2440
01:12:21,700 --> 01:12:24,066
door knocking.

2441
01:12:22,633 --> 01:12:25,366
do you see what I'm saying?

2442
01:12:24,166 --> 01:12:26,366
it's still growing there.

2443
01:12:25,466 --> 01:12:28,233
it'sery visible.

2444
01:12:26,466 --> 01:12:29,400
being out there, if it's

2445
01:12:28,333 --> 01:12:30,766
doing this to my arm, in

2446
01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:32,200
addition to sitting right

2447
01:12:30,866 --> 01:12:33,500
underneath the herke and

2448
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:34,366
everything that's going -- the

2449
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,600
herc and evething else

2450
01:12:34,466 --> 01:12:37,033
that's going on over there,

2451
01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:38,566
all of these conditions weigh

2452
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,966
a heavy factor on how peoe

2453
01:12:38,666 --> 01:12:42,633
are living in this situation.

2454
01:12:41,066 --> 01:12:44,133
there should not be any

2455
01:12:42,733 --> 01:12:44,833
gaslighting going on here.

2456
01:12:44,233 --> 01:12:47,000
they can't articulate it

2457
01:12:45,033 --> 01:12:49,366
because they're being lied to.

2458
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:50,766
and the residents have a

2459
01:12:49,533 --> 01:12:51,633
community meeting every

2460
01:12:50,866 --> 01:12:52,966
tuesday.

2461
01:12:51,733 --> 01:12:55,133
I know because I go.

2462
01:12:53,066 --> 01:12:57,100
and they're working with

2463
01:12:55,233 --> 01:13:01,300
organization like northpoint,

2464
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:02,166
like the naacp, like zur are,

2465
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,600
holistic healthcare and

2466
01:13:02,266 --> 01:13:05,133
wellness, those are people

2467
01:13:03,700 --> 01:13:06,800
that a centered in the needs

2468
01:13:05,333 --> 01:13:09,033
in the community and they've

2469
01:13:06,900 --> 01:13:11,400
come forward, we've tried to,

2470
01:13:09,133 --> 01:13:12,133
you know, make warm

2471
01:13:11,500 --> 01:13:13,366
introductions and transfer --

2472
01:13:12,233 --> 01:13:14,800
because people are essentially

2473
01:13:13,466 --> 01:13:17,533
going to want to talk to

2474
01:13:14,900 --> 01:13:18,733
someone who looks like them

2475
01:13:17,633 --> 01:13:19,500
and understands their struggle

2476
01:13:18,833 --> 01:13:21,833
and where they're coming from,

2477
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,166
not whoever the srf people

2478
01:13:21,933 --> 01:13:23,466
are.

2479
01:13:22,266 --> 01:13:23,666
I'm sure they're nice folks.

2480
01:13:23,566 --> 01:13:24,233
great.

2481
01:13:23,766 --> 01:13:25,600
thank you.

2482
01:13:24,533 --> 01:13:26,300
I ain't seen them not one

2483
01:13:25,700 --> 01:13:28,700
time.

2484
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,766
and no information has been

2485
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,500
even provided to me to make a

2486
01:13:30,866 --> 01:13:33,533
warm introduction of, hey,

2487
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,500
community, here's some people

2488
01:13:33,633 --> 01:13:38,233
that are coming that are not

2489
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,900
going to examine you like lab

2490
01:13:38,333 --> 01:13:43,000
rats, you know, when we're

2491
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,066
talking about

2492
01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:45,000
human-centeredness and we're

2493
01:13:44,166 --> 01:13:45,933
talking about assessing

2494
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:46,833
community members' needs, this

2495
01:13:46,133 --> 01:13:47,700
is not -- you know wt I

2496
01:13:46,933 --> 01:13:48,833
mean?

2497
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,266
we don't want people picked

2498
01:13:48,933 --> 01:13:50,466
apart.

2499
01:13:49,366 --> 01:13:51,966
we've got folks that are

2500
01:13:50,566 --> 01:13:53,633
experiencing some real serious

2501
01:13:52,066 --> 01:13:55,933
challenges, when you're going

2502
01:13:53,733 --> 01:13:56,733
through transition and

2503
01:13:56,033 --> 01:13:58,466
transitional change, anything

2504
01:13:57,033 --> 01:14:00,300
could cause cps to get

2505
01:13:58,566 --> 01:14:01,200
involved in your life,

2506
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,750
anything could cause anything

2507
01:14:01,300 --> 01:14:03,466
to happen.

2508
01:14:01,866 --> 01:14:05,166
right?

2509
01:14:03,566 --> 01:14:07,033
so the delicacy that we've

2510
01:14:05,266 --> 01:14:09,433
already placed and put things

2511
01:14:07,766 --> 01:14:12,500
in place within our community

2512
01:14:10,933 --> 01:14:13,400
of north minneapolis in its

2513
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,933
exactness, it's important that

2514
01:14:13,500 --> 01:14:16,233
the city works with the

2515
01:14:15,033 --> 01:14:19,966
community in that position.

2516
01:14:16,633 --> 01:14:22,166
I really just -- northpoint,

2517
01:14:20,066 --> 01:14:24,033
black social worker network,

2518
01:14:22,266 --> 01:14:25,466
dr. Bravado, all of these

2519
01:14:24,433 --> 01:14:28,433
wonderful individuals, our

2520
01:14:25,566 --> 01:14:29,466
fremont clinic, you know,

2521
01:14:28,533 --> 01:14:31,900
north memorial hospital, all

2522
01:14:30,333 --> 01:14:35,033
of these individuals are ready

2523
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,633
and prepared to do a very

2524
01:14:35,133 --> 01:14:37,966
human-centered and holistic

2525
01:14:35,733 --> 01:14:39,733
approach with these residents,

2526
01:14:38,266 --> 01:14:42,300
I appreciate all of this

2527
01:14:39,933 --> 01:14:44,866
stuff, it's great, but I don't

2528
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,300
know who srf is and that

2529
01:14:44,966 --> 01:14:46,433
frightens me.

2530
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,566
and I'm sorry I have to say

2531
01:14:46,533 --> 01:14:48,933
that.

2532
01:14:47,666 --> 01:14:51,800
and paying them $400,000 also

2533
01:14:49,033 --> 01:14:55,333
frightens me because that'stake.

2534
01:14:52,033 --> 01:14:59,033
that's over 15%.

2535
01:14:55,433 --> 01:15:00,366
when it was, you know, -- when

2536
01:14:59,166 --> 01:15:02,033
itas operation metro surge

2537
01:15:00,466 --> 01:15:05,500
and we gave all of that money,

2538
01:15:02,433 --> 01:15:06,400
it was over 3 or so million or

2539
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,500
whatever, to -- what was it --

2540
01:15:06,566 --> 01:15:09,733
6 million we gave to the

2541
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,266
agencies over south to help

2542
01:15:09,833 --> 01:15:12,600
with rental assistance, they

2543
01:15:11,366 --> 01:15:13,333
charged a 5% administrative

2544
01:15:12,700 --> 01:15:14,800
fee, right?

2545
01:15:13,433 --> 01:15:16,900
why are we paying so much

2546
01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:17,433
money to srf?

2547
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,700
that just doesn't make any

2548
01:15:17,533 --> 01:15:23,900
sense to me.

2549
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:25,033
so, the residents, the

2550
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:25,266
community, have been having

2551
01:15:25,133 --> 01:15:27,066
meeting.

2552
01:15:25,366 --> 01:15:29,466
it is a division because it's

2553
01:15:27,166 --> 01:15:30,333
public housing and the

2554
01:15:29,566 --> 01:15:32,666
nonpublic housing individuals

2555
01:15:30,433 --> 01:15:33,100
who have housing choice

2556
01:15:32,766 --> 01:15:34,533
voucher stuff.

2557
01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:35,200
iet it.

2558
01:15:34,933 --> 01:15:36,966
83 households.

2559
01:15:35,366 --> 01:15:37,600
we have more than enough to

2560
01:15:37,066 --> 01:15:39,666
help 83 households.

2561
01:15:37,700 --> 01:15:44,333
but we also have enough to

2562
01:15:40,366 --> 01:15:47,700
help 211 households, too, with

2563
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:50,233
$12,000 essentially per

2564
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:52,333
household, 11,889 dollars per

2565
01:15:50,366 --> 01:15:54,200
hoehold could help them.

2566
01:15:52,433 --> 01:15:55,700
and if we did a 5%

2567
01:15:54,500 --> 01:15:57,666
administtive fee, that would

2568
01:15:56,666 --> 01:15:59,433
be $125,000, and we could pay

2569
01:15:57,766 --> 01:16:02,200
that to somebody bause all

2570
01:15:59,633 --> 01:16:05,700
they're really doing is paying

2571
01:16:02,300 --> 01:16:06,033
for accounting and

2572
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,533
bookkeeping.

2573
01:16:06,133 --> 01:16:09,266
the people who need help need

2574
01:16:08,633 --> 01:16:11,033
public supportive housing,

2575
01:16:09,366 --> 01:16:12,066
things like that, application

2576
01:16:11,133 --> 01:16:13,400
fees, what have you.

2577
01:16:12,166 --> 01:16:14,933
the money is there, it's how

2578
01:16:13,500 --> 01:16:16,333
are we managing it, how are we

2579
01:16:15,033 --> 01:16:18,100
using it, but we do have more

2580
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:21,500
than enough, essentially.

2581
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:22,766
that would be about $4,000 a

2582
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,933
month would be enough to help

2583
01:16:22,933 --> 01:16:26,800
a family stablize itself.

2584
01:16:25,466 --> 01:16:29,866
and I don't -- I think that

2585
01:16:26,900 --> 01:16:30,900
that -- on top of whatever

2586
01:16:29,966 --> 01:16:32,400
they're already -- whatever

2587
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,366
their acquired income is, I

2588
01:16:32,500 --> 01:16:35,700
think they would be okay.

2589
01:16:34,466 --> 01:16:38,033
I don't see that as an issue.

2590
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,100
if I had an extra $4,000 a

2591
01:16:38,133 --> 01:16:39,666
month, I would be okay, too,

2592
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,500
you know.

2593
01:16:39,766 --> 01:16:43,466
so I think thile be just fine

2594
01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:44,833
if everybody spreads the

2595
01:16:44,166 --> 01:16:46,666
wealth evenly across the board

2596
01:16:45,233 --> 01:16:48,533
and starts using yardsticks

2597
01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:51,733
and whatever else because,

2598
01:16:49,533 --> 01:16:54,100
like I said, the 128 people

2599
01:16:51,833 --> 01:16:54,633
are the people who really need

2600
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,533
the suppor

2601
01:16:54,733 --> 01:16:59,133
and I know mpha has a job, but

2602
01:16:57,633 --> 01:17:01,266
at this point, I d't even

2603
01:16:59,233 --> 01:17:01,466
think those people show up for

2604
01:17:01,366 --> 01:17:04,133
work.

2605
01:17:01,566 --> 01:17:05,833
I left a message at their

2606
01:17:04,233 --> 01:17:07,900
voice answering service -- you

2607
01:17:05,933 --> 01:17:09,000
know they got an awering

2608
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,333
service, erik, when you call,

2609
01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:11,333
you can't reach a real person.

2610
01:17:10,433 --> 01:17:11,933
and they still haven't called

2611
01:17:11,566 --> 01:17:14,100
back.

2612
01:17:12,033 --> 01:17:15,966
and it's been weeks.

2613
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,500
so, I don't know how they're

2614
01:17:16,066 --> 01:17:18,700
responding to the needs of

2615
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,833
these people.

2616
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,933
and I understand that someone

2617
01:17:20,083 --> 01:17:24,766
is there providing what they

2618
01:17:22,033 --> 01:17:27,300
call a relocation pket for

2619
01:17:24,866 --> 01:17:28,733
individuals who have housing

2620
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,166
choice vouchers onuesdays

2621
01:17:28,833 --> 01:17:31,566
and thursdays, the city is

2622
01:17:30,266 --> 01:17:33,433
there, but that's not the same

2623
01:17:31,666 --> 01:17:34,000
as what's called a transfer

2624
01:17:33,533 --> 01:17:35,633
packet.

2625
01:17:34,166 --> 01:17:37,066
a transfer packet is what's

2626
01:17:35,733 --> 01:17:40,800
utilized for an individual who

2627
01:17:37,366 --> 01:17:43,200
is a participant of public

2628
01:17:40,900 --> 01:17:45,233
housing, so they can transfer

2629
01:17:44,066 --> 01:17:48,466
to another public housing

2630
01:17:45,333 --> 01:17:50,333
space or they can port out to

2631
01:17:48,566 --> 01:17:53,233
another city, whether it's

2632
01:17:50,766 --> 01:17:56,833
metro hra or ramsey hra or

2633
01:17:53,333 --> 01:17:58,033
dakota county cda or what have

2634
01:17:56,933 --> 01:18:00,466
you, they can move into

2635
01:17:58,133 --> 01:18:01,366
another -- if mpha is saying

2636
01:18:00,566 --> 01:18:02,666
they don't have the capacity.

2637
01:18:01,466 --> 01:18:03,866
but no one is helping them

2638
01:18:02,766 --> 01:18:04,933
with that, and then they're

2639
01:18:03,966 --> 01:18:05,966
being told that they got to

2640
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:06,833
qualify and someone needs to

2641
01:18:06,066 --> 01:18:08,266
come and look.

2642
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,633
it just is not making sense to

2643
01:18:08,566 --> 01:18:11,333
me.

2644
01:18:08,733 --> 01:18:14,100
and I wish that everyone would

2645
01:18:11,433 --> 01:18:15,733
really get their act together

2646
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,500
because this is -- this I

2647
01:18:15,833 --> 01:18:21,333
ridiculous.

2648
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:26,066
but I don't agree with srf.

2649
01:18:21,433 --> 01:18:27,400
I don't agree with giving them

2650
01:18:26,166 --> 01:18:28,533
that $400,000.

2651
01:18:27,500 --> 01:18:29,833
that doesn't make any sen to

2652
01:18:28,700 --> 01:18:30,783
me because I don't know what

2653
01:18:29,933 --> 01:18:32,066
they're doin' with it.

2654
01:18:30,900 --> 01:18:36,133
they should already have

2655
01:18:32,166 --> 01:18:39,166
accountants and people who do,

2656
01:18:37,066 --> 01:18:40,333
do,you know, sales force or

2657
01:18:39,266 --> 01:18:43,633
however they're utilizing

2658
01:18:40,433 --> 01:18:45,300
their client base record,

2659
01:18:43,733 --> 01:18:46,733
datakeeping stuff, should

2660
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,166
already be in place, it's not

2661
01:18:46,833 --> 01:18:49,000
like they're buying new

2662
01:18:48,266 --> 01:18:50,333
software or whatever else.

2663
01:18:49,166 --> 01:18:51,700
if we're allowing for

2664
01:18:50,433 --> 01:18:53,066
something that to be done, we

2665
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,266
should invest in putting that

2666
01:18:53,300 --> 01:18:54,633
in in north minneapolis,

2667
01:18:54,450 --> 01:18:55,366
directly.

2668
01:18:54,733 --> 01:18:56,500
because that is just the tip

2669
01:18:55,466 --> 01:18:57,166
of the iceberg.

2670
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,166
everything else over there is

2671
01:18:57,266 --> 01:19:00,233
going to need some examining,

2672
01:18:59,266 --> 01:19:01,333
too, right, you know?

2673
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:01,700
so this is just the worst of

2674
01:19:01,433 --> 01:19:03,233
the worst.

2675
01:19:01,900 --> 01:19:05,433
so it be would better to have

2676
01:19:04,066 --> 01:19:07,500
it in-house and get that stuff

2677
01:19:05,533 --> 01:19:08,866
together over there.

2678
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:12,033
but this is -- I don't agree

2679
01:19:08,966 --> 01:19:14,000
with them at all for that.

2680
01:19:12,133 --> 01:19:15,800
and the residents may not want

2681
01:19:14,633 --> 01:19:19,300
to relocate, but we really

2682
01:19:15,900 --> 01:19:20,400
need to give them stern

2683
01:19:19,433 --> 01:19:21,933
adsement about the health.

2684
01:19:20,500 --> 01:19:25,233
I'm really kind of feeling the

2685
01:19:22,033 --> 01:19:28,433
way that our public healthdepare

2686
01:19:25,533 --> 01:19:32,666
forward and talked about the

2687
01:19:28,533 --> 01:19:33,600
public health and safety

2688
01:19:32,766 --> 01:19:34,700
implementations that this

2689
01:19:33,700 --> 01:19:35,366
living condition is having on

2690
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,233
people.

2691
01:19:35,466 --> 01:19:40,200
and I would expect to have

2692
01:19:37,333 --> 01:19:40,800
heard more of a statement from

2693
01:19:40,300 --> 01:19:42,033
our public health departmen

2694
01:19:40,900 --> 01:19:44,500
besides the fact that there's

2695
01:19:42,133 --> 01:19:46,500
mold in the air everywhere

2696
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,133
because we know that, but this

2697
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,433
is black mold.

2698
01:19:47,233 --> 01:19:52,133
and black mold has a dferent

2699
01:19:49,533 --> 01:19:56,433
impact on your lungs and on

2700
01:19:52,233 --> 01:19:58,166
your body.

2701
01:19:57,066 --> 01:19:58,433
on your entire well-being,

2702
01:19:58,266 --> 01:20:00,266
right?

2703
01:19:58,533 --> 01:20:01,933
and I'm just thinking about

2704
01:20:00,366 --> 01:20:04,800
how that needs to -- that

2705
01:20:02,033 --> 01:20:07,433
real needs to come forward.

2706
01:20:04,900 --> 01:20:08,400
but if peoe stop gaslighting

2707
01:20:07,533 --> 01:20:10,766
the residents and just tell

2708
01:20:08,500 --> 01:20:13,933
them the truth, then

2709
01:20:10,866 --> 01:20:17,766
individuals can make a

2710
01:20:14,033 --> 01:20:18,866
well-informed, conscious

2711
01:20:17,866 --> 01:20:20,500
choice, you know, instead of a

2712
01:20:18,966 --> 01:20:23,166
decision to think about

2713
01:20:21,533 --> 01:20:24,133
whether this will be short

2714
01:20:23,266 --> 01:20:27,000
term or long term because this

2715
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:28,166
is going to be long term.

2716
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:30,966
heritage park buildings cannot

2717
01:20:29,033 --> 01:20:32,066
be rehabbed in six months.

2718
01:20:31,066 --> 01:20:33,900
not in eight months.

2719
01:20:32,166 --> 01:20:35,433
not in three months.

2720
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,566
it will be more than a year's

2721
01:20:35,533 --> 01:20:39,333
worth of work tt needs to go

2722
01:20:38,533 --> 01:20:40,766
on over there in order to

2723
01:20:39,433 --> 01:20:42,066
bring it up to par.

2724
01:20:40,866 --> 01:20:44,466
and the fact that we're

2725
01:20:42,700 --> 01:20:45,466
spending money on air

2726
01:20:44,566 --> 01:20:47,100
conditioningnits and central

2727
01:20:45,566 --> 01:20:50,666
air units over there to blow

2728
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,966
the mold spores around I just

2729
01:20:50,766 --> 01:20:53,666
ridiculous.

2730
01:20:51,066 --> 01:20:54,933
all of the hvac units, the 168

2731
01:20:53,766 --> 01:20:55,800
of them that were placed in

2732
01:20:55,033 --> 01:20:57,900
there over the winter when

2733
01:20:55,900 --> 01:20:59,866
people didn't have heat, erik,

2734
01:20:58,066 --> 01:21:01,000
we know have to be replaced

2735
01:20:59,966 --> 01:21:02,966
because they contain mold

2736
01:21:01,100 --> 01:21:04,033
spores.

2737
01:21:03,066 --> 01:21:05,400
like, this is -- we don't want

2738
01:21:04,433 --> 01:21:07,166
to hustle backwards.

2739
01:21:05,500 --> 01:21:09,600
let's not hustle backwards.

2740
01:21:07,266 --> 01:21:11,266
let's move forward.

2741
01:21:10,033 --> 01:21:12,300
my campaignlogan was moving

2742
01:21:11,366 --> 01:21:13,133
us forward, let's move

2743
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:13,566
forward, let's do the right

2744
01:21:13,466 --> 01:21:14,466
thing.

2745
01:21:13,666 --> 01:21:17,500
you know?

2746
01:21:15,433 --> 01:21:19,900
let's move forward and let's

2747
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:22,233
ensure that people have right

2748
01:21:20,233 --> 01:21:24,933
information so they can make

2749
01:21:22,333 --> 01:21:25,866
right choices and clear, you

2750
01:21:25,033 --> 01:21:29,066
know, understanding, access,

2751
01:21:25,966 --> 01:21:30,666
and the opportunity, you know.

2752
01:21:29,166 --> 01:21:31,400
don't strip people of their

2753
01:21:30,766 --> 01:21:33,500
autonomy.

2754
01:21:31,500 --> 01:21:36,000
we cannot d that.

2755
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,433
like I'm seeing this and

2756
01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:38,033
literally every day it breaks

2757
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:43,833
my heart.

2758
01:21:38,133 --> 01:21:46,266
I sat in my car for an hour on

2759
01:21:43,933 --> 01:21:47,100
friday, after they called me

2760
01:21:46,366 --> 01:21:49,000
and cried because I'm like,

2761
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,666
these are publicousing

2762
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:50,533
residents.

2763
01:21:49,766 --> 01:21:53,066
they're not going anywhere.

2764
01:21:50,633 --> 01:21:53,700
they're the ones who are being

2765
01:21:53,166 --> 01:21:55,066
gaslit through this whole

2766
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:58,566
thing.

2767
01:21:55,166 --> 01:21:59,800
mpha is not doing enough.

2768
01:21:58,666 --> 01:22:02,966
this wasn't even our stuff.

2769
01:21:59,900 --> 01:22:06,066
but we stood up.

2770
01:22:03,133 --> 01:22:07,933
I called jacob and I said, I

2771
01:22:06,166 --> 01:22:09,200
need you to flex your strong

2772
01:22:08,033 --> 01:22:11,666
mayor muscle or something

2773
01:22:09,300 --> 01:22:12,333
because thiss not fair to

2774
01:22:11,766 --> 01:22:14,866
our people.

2775
01:22:12,966 --> 01:22:16,166
we give them $5,000 a year to

2776
01:22:15,133 --> 01:22:18,833
go towards their levy.

2777
01:22:16,266 --> 01:22:21,166
I'm not sayin' that they got

2778
01:22:18,933 --> 01:22:23,133
$5,000 sitting in a pot

2779
01:22:21,266 --> 01:22:24,200
somewhere, in a vault.

2780
01:22:23,233 --> 01:22:27,266
but I'm saying that we've

2781
01:22:24,300 --> 01:22:28,166
contributed a lot to help

2782
01:22:27,366 --> 01:22:30,266
support them.

2783
01:22:28,266 --> 01:22:31,933
they're not preserving people.

2784
01:22:30,366 --> 01:22:33,866
they're not preservin housing

2785
01:22:32,033 --> 01:22:34,433
stock and they're not

2786
01:22:33,966 --> 01:22:36,333
preserving opportunity.

2787
01:22:35,366 --> 01:22:36,966
no one's putng the people

2788
01:22:36,866 --> 01:22:37,733
first.

2789
01:22:37,066 --> 01:22:42,466
because this would not have

2790
01:22:37,833 --> 01:22:44,400
gone on for as long as it has.

2791
01:22:43,066 --> 01:22:50,033
» Chair chowdhurycouncil

2792
01:22:45,533 --> 01:22:52,133
member warren, the city is

2793
01:22:50,233 --> 01:22:55,333
putting the people first.

2794
01:22:52,233 --> 01:22:55,766
when it comes to what we can

2795
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,400
do here.

2796
01:22:55,933 --> 01:22:59,500
I think we need to makeure

2797
01:22:57,500 --> 01:23:00,633
that we're not letting the

2798
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,400
public housing authority off

2799
01:23:00,733 --> 01:23:04,033
the hook.

2800
01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:04,266
they do receive levy, it's $5

2801
01:23:04,133 --> 01:23:04,933
million.

2802
01:23:04,766 --> 01:23:09,500
» Right.

2803
01:23:05,566 --> 01:23:12,366
» Hey have resources.

2804
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:13,166
and the political pressure

2805
01:23:12,466 --> 01:23:14,266
needs to be applied so that

2806
01:23:13,266 --> 01:23:15,133
they use it.

2807
01:23:14,366 --> 01:23:15,933
and they've been showing that

2808
01:23:15,233 --> 01:23:17,666
they're coming to the table.

2809
01:23:16,033 --> 01:23:20,666
so we have to continue to work

2810
01:23:17,766 --> 01:23:22,966
with them so that those 128

2811
01:23:20,766 --> 01:23:24,433
public housing units still get

2812
01:23:23,066 --> 01:23:25,000
the transfer benefits, those

2813
01:23:24,533 --> 01:23:27,266
transfer packages you were

2814
01:23:25,100 --> 01:23:28,466
talking about.

2815
01:23:27,366 --> 01:23:28,733
it is a very complicated

2816
01:23:28,566 --> 01:23:31,766
situation.

2817
01:23:28,833 --> 01:23:33,333
you and I have had this

2818
01:23:31,866 --> 01:23:35,366
conversation multiple times.

2819
01:23:33,433 --> 01:23:36,966
we talk a lot about heritage

2820
01:23:35,466 --> 01:23:40,033
park.

2821
01:23:37,066 --> 01:23:43,200
and, you know, I've used some

2822
01:23:41,933 --> 01:23:44,966
of your turns of phrases with,

2823
01:23:43,283 --> 01:23:46,733
you know, band-aid on a bullet

2824
01:23:45,066 --> 01:23:48,933
wound, and also, you know, so

2825
01:23:47,366 --> 01:23:51,166
you talk about the hvac units,

2826
01:23:49,766 --> 01:23:52,666
we should be looking at that

2827
01:23:51,266 --> 01:23:54,766
because some people will not

2828
01:23:52,766 --> 01:23:56,300
move.

2829
01:23:55,066 --> 01:23:58,033
back to centering to their

2830
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,866
agency of the residents, some

2831
01:23:58,233 --> 01:23:59,950
people will not move.

2832
01:23:59,066 --> 01:24:00,966
so we have to look at the

2833
01:24:00,066 --> 01:24:02,700
conditions on which they're

2834
01:24:01,066 --> 01:24:03,800
living and if we can help with

2835
01:24:02,900 --> 01:24:04,600
that, then we should be

2836
01:24:03,900 --> 01:24:06,366
providing it.

2837
01:24:04,700 --> 01:24:08,100
I'm just saying to us as a

2838
01:24:06,466 --> 01:24:09,000
city, we should not be

2839
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,700
throwing all of the money into

2840
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,533
it until we have a global

2841
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,900
plan, and that's what we're

2842
01:24:11,733 --> 01:24:14,266
working as hard as we can to

2843
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,800
get to is thatlobal plan,

2844
01:24:14,366 --> 01:24:17,066
which is going to be, you're

2845
01:24:15,900 --> 01:24:18,133
right, it's going to be like a

2846
01:24:17,166 --> 01:24:19,800
year and a half plusr min

2847
01:24:18,333 --> 01:24:20,366
a couple of months on both

2848
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,900
ends, right.

2849
01:24:20,833 --> 01:24:25,033
so it could be 18 months to

2850
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:26,533
two years to rehab heritage

2851
01:24:25,133 --> 01:24:27,933
park and that hasn't started.

2852
01:24:26,666 --> 01:24:29,300
d with respect to srf,

2853
01:24:28,033 --> 01:24:30,500
they're not coming out and

2854
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,066
talking to people because

2855
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,333
they're not underontract.

2856
01:24:31,183 --> 01:24:34,433
if we would bring in

2857
01:24:33,433 --> 01:24:35,100
organizations from other --

2858
01:24:34,533 --> 01:24:36,766
that are not contracted, I

2859
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,433
would have to go through a

2860
01:24:36,866 --> 01:24:39,300
procurement process.

2861
01:24:37,533 --> 01:24:41,533
I'd have to go through an rfp.

2862
01:24:40,233 --> 01:24:41,866
» Rfp would only take 30

2863
01:24:41,633 --> 01:24:43,700
days, correct?

2864
01:24:42,133 --> 01:24:44,466
» It would take 30 days, then

2865
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,666
we'd have to contract, you

2866
01:24:44,900 --> 01:24:49,300
would not see relocation

2867
01:24:47,766 --> 01:24:50,933
assistance available until the

2868
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,866
middle of the summer -- middle

2869
01:24:51,033 --> 01:24:53,800
of the fall.

2870
01:24:51,966 --> 01:24:54,033
and that is unacceptable for

2871
01:24:53,900 --> 01:24:56,400
me.

2872
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:58,233
I think we need to be able to

2873
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,666
push this funding out as

2874
01:24:59,100 --> 01:25:00,766
quickly as we can, and the

2875
01:24:59,766 --> 01:25:03,033
staff and the team have come

2876
01:25:00,966 --> 01:25:03,666
up with a way to do that.

2877
01:25:03,116 --> 01:25:07,600
it's not perfect.

2878
01:25:03,866 --> 01:25:09,466
nothing is perct in a

2879
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,766
unplanned situation.

2880
01:25:09,566 --> 01:25:13,233
and, so, that's why we're

2881
01:25:11,966 --> 01:25:14,533
suggesting here that we work

2882
01:25:13,633 --> 01:25:17,833
wi a contract we already

2883
01:25:14,633 --> 01:25:19,600
have in place and if we have

2884
01:25:17,933 --> 01:25:21,033
community-minded supporters,

2885
01:25:19,700 --> 01:25:22,366
that's positive, but I want to

2886
01:25:21,133 --> 01:25:23,466
make sur that we can get to a

2887
01:25:22,466 --> 01:25:24,633
point where we can start

2888
01:25:23,566 --> 01:25:27,433
sitting down with households

2889
01:25:24,733 --> 01:25:28,600
and finding out where they are

2890
01:25:27,533 --> 01:25:29,066
and where they can be as soon

2891
01:25:28,700 --> 01:25:30,500
as possible.

2892
01:25:29,166 --> 01:25:32,200
and I think another two months

2893
01:25:31,333 --> 01:25:34,466
of waiting for a contract to

2894
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,033
be in place is two months we

2895
01:25:34,566 --> 01:25:37,900
don't have.

2896
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,333
» I hear exactly what you're

2897
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,533
saying.

2898
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:43,166
I mean, I have s many

2899
01:25:40,633 --> 01:25:45,700
questions for this invisible

2900
01:25:43,266 --> 01:25:47,000
company, ts srf.

2901
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,200
like do you have any

2902
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:50,166
experience in working with

2903
01:25:49,533 --> 01:25:51,433
minority populations?

2904
01:25:50,266 --> 01:25:54,166
that's just like me going to

2905
01:25:51,566 --> 01:25:55,166
go pick a realtor who I'm

2906
01:25:54,266 --> 01:25:56,933
choosing to go buy a house

2907
01:25:55,266 --> 01:25:58,433
with and he haso experience

2908
01:25:57,033 --> 01:25:59,600
working with a first-time home

2909
01:25:58,533 --> 01:26:01,000
buyer, you know?

2910
01:25:59,700 --> 01:26:03,100
you don't know how to -- you

2911
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:04,633
don't know how to help people

2912
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,633
with, you know, wine tasting

2913
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,600
be money, I mean, I don't

2914
01:26:05,733 --> 01:26:09,133
know who these people are.

2915
01:26:07,700 --> 01:26:11,466
and they're taking a lot off

2916
01:26:09,233 --> 01:26:14,500
the top.

2917
01:26:11,566 --> 01:26:15,733
so, I see this as somebody

2918
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,400
siezing more of an opportunity

2919
01:26:15,833 --> 01:26:19,700
than I do more a jumpin' in.

2920
01:26:18,500 --> 01:26:21,233
and then what happens if

2921
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:21,633
they're not meeting the

2922
01:26:21,466 --> 01:26:23,633
standard?

2923
01:26:21,733 --> 01:26:25,100
what happens if the community

2924
01:26:23,733 --> 01:26:26,433
complains and they don't feel

2925
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,100
comfortable or they're not

2926
01:26:26,533 --> 01:26:28,300
getting exactly what it is

2927
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:31,833
that they need?

2928
01:26:28,933 --> 01:26:32,933
we gotta go to our rfp too,

2929
01:26:32,266 --> 01:26:34,233
then again, don't we?

2930
01:26:33,133 --> 01:26:35,566
what's happening?

2931
01:26:34,333 --> 01:26:37,800
» Chair chowdhury, council

2932
01:26:35,666 --> 01:26:39,233
member warren, you know, I'm

2933
01:26:37,900 --> 01:26:40,500
not going to opine on h much

2934
01:26:39,333 --> 01:26:41,466
it's going to cost, I just

2935
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:42,733
know it's going to be hundreds

2936
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,833
of thousands of dollars based

2937
01:26:42,833 --> 01:26:44,700
on the scope of work.

2938
01:26:43,933 --> 01:26:46,533
» Alfred told me --

2939
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,500
» And that we're managing --

2940
01:26:46,633 --> 01:26:49,333
that's not something we've

2941
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:51,533
agreed to with srf yet.

2942
01:26:49,433 --> 01:26:53,500
» Oh, well --

2943
01:26:51,700 --> 01:26:54,900
» We have to hold -- we have

2944
01:26:53,733 --> 01:26:56,633
to manage that contract.

2945
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,166
we have to setxpectations.

2946
01:26:56,733 --> 01:27:01,733
and we're expecting to set

2947
01:26:59,700 --> 01:27:02,400
those expectations to meet the

2948
01:27:01,833 --> 01:27:05,900
needs of the community.

2949
01:27:02,500 --> 01:27:07,733
and, so, if srf is not meeting

2950
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,000
the expectations, then cped is

2951
01:27:07,833 --> 01:27:09,966
not doing its job.

2952
01:27:09,100 --> 01:27:12,500
be rest assured, we're going

2953
01:27:10,066 --> 01:27:13,966
to be managing the contract so

2954
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,500
that the needsre being met.

2955
01:27:14,066 --> 01:27:16,266
and those questions about

2956
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,466
cultural competence is

2957
01:27:16,366 --> 01:27:20,300
something that we're asking as

2958
01:27:17,566 --> 01:27:22,100
well, like, how do you know

2959
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:24,666
who -- you know, have you

2960
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:26,933
worked with communities --

2961
01:27:24,766 --> 01:27:27,566
vulnerable communities like

2962
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,333
this before?

2963
01:27:27,666 --> 01:27:30,600
and if w don't get a suitae

2964
01:27:29,533 --> 01:27:32,100
answer, then we might have to

2965
01:27:30,700 --> 01:27:33,933
go to an rfp.

2966
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,266
but I need t-- we need as a

2967
01:27:34,033 --> 01:27:37,433
city to look at this option

2968
01:27:35,366 --> 01:27:37,966
because it gets the money

2969
01:27:37,533 --> 01:27:40,733
available sooner.

2970
01:27:38,666 --> 01:27:44,666
» I understand.

2971
01:27:40,833 --> 01:27:47,333
and I am agreeing with the

2972
01:27:44,766 --> 01:27:49,433
urgency because I, like you,

2973
01:27:47,433 --> 01:27:51,500
want the families to get the

2974
01:27:49,533 --> 01:27:55,133
help that they need.

2975
01:27:51,733 --> 01:27:57,533
it's been far too long.

2976
01:27:55,233 --> 01:27:58,900
but I don't want it to be done

2977
01:27:57,633 --> 01:27:59,233
any old kind of way just

2978
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,333
because.

2979
01:27:59,333 --> 01:28:02,966
you know?

2980
01:28:01,433 --> 01:28:05,133
and I don't want them being

2981
01:28:03,500 --> 01:28:07,466
short-changed in the process

2982
01:28:05,233 --> 01:28:10,433
either because I broke it

2983
01:28:07,566 --> 01:28:17,533
down, $12,000 per household,

2984
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:18,866
211 families, 686 people, the

2985
01:28:17,633 --> 01:28:20,966
math math'd, right?

2986
01:28:19,833 --> 01:28:22,266
so those are -- those are just

2987
01:28:21,066 --> 01:28:26,033
some ofy thoughts.

2988
01:28:22,366 --> 01:28:29,033
and I know that we're not --

2989
01:28:26,133 --> 01:28:29,466
and we shouldn't let mpha off

2990
01:28:29,133 --> 01:28:34,700
the hook.

2991
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:38,366
I just really hope that we as

2992
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:40,766
a city look at who we're

2993
01:28:38,466 --> 01:28:42,466
assigning to our boards and

2994
01:28:40,866 --> 01:28:46,033
that we are attentive of who

2995
01:28:42,566 --> 01:28:47,700
we a placing in these

2996
01:28:46,133 --> 01:28:50,000
positions.

2997
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:51,200
you know, so that we can

2998
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:55,033
ensure that we have the right

2999
01:28:51,300 --> 01:28:56,766
oversight when it comes to our

3000
01:28:55,133 --> 01:28:59,100
public housing and supporting

3001
01:28:56,866 --> 01:29:01,033
the residents who need the

3002
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:03,066
most support, like public

3003
01:29:01,133 --> 01:29:03,833
housing was designed to help

3004
01:29:03,166 --> 01:29:06,233
these individuals and keep

3005
01:29:04,133 --> 01:29:06,500
th from being in situations

3006
01:29:06,333 --> 01:29:10,766
like this.

3007
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:11,900
this is what ourublic tax

3008
01:29:10,866 --> 01:29:13,966
dollars go to, to support and

3009
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:16,166
help the most vulnerable in

3010
01:29:14,066 --> 01:29:17,700
our community, who need an

3011
01:29:16,266 --> 01:29:17,933
extra boost and some extra

3012
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,033
support.

3013
01:29:18,033 --> 01:29:22,566
you know?

3014
01:29:20,133 --> 01:29:23,666
and I don't -- I don't think

3015
01:29:22,766 --> 01:29:27,600
that, you know, it should have

3016
01:29:23,766 --> 01:29:29,200
ever gotten to this point and

3017
01:29:27,700 --> 01:29:30,866
that their humanity or their

3018
01:29:29,300 --> 01:29:35,766
autonomy should be discounted

3019
01:29:30,966 --> 01:29:36,766
for any reason.I thank you for n

3020
01:29:35,866 --> 01:29:38,266
this, erik, and I know we're

3021
01:29:36,866 --> 01:29:39,666
going to continue to tal

3022
01:29:38,366 --> 01:29:45,133
about this.

3023
01:29:39,766 --> 01:29:49,033
but those are my concerns and

3024
01:29:45,233 --> 01:29:51,766
my frustrations, and you know

3025
01:29:49,133 --> 01:29:55,633
I don't mind being vocal about

3026
01:29:51,933 --> 01:29:55,833
it all, and I'm not happy with

3027
01:29:55,733 --> 01:29:57,300
certu.

3028
01:29:55,933 --> 01:29:58,633
and I'm not happy with

3029
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,033
property solutions.

3030
01:29:58,733 --> 01:30:01,033
just so we have that on the

3031
01:30:00,133 --> 01:30:02,133
record, too, as well.

3032
01:30:01,133 --> 01:30:05,466
thank you.

3033
01:30:02,233 --> 01:30:06,133
the end.

3034
01:30:05,566 --> 01:30:07,100
» Thank you.

3035
01:30:06,233 --> 01:30:08,466
the last person that we have

3036
01:30:07,500 --> 01:30:08,700
on queue is council member

3037
01:30:08,566 --> 01:30:10,733
shaffer.

3038
01:30:08,933 --> 01:30:11,833
» One other question around,

3039
01:30:11,033 --> 01:30:14,166
if you could speak a little

3040
01:30:11,933 --> 01:30:17,133
bit in the policy of why you

3041
01:30:14,266 --> 01:30:18,300
were bumping anywhere from t

3042
01:30:17,233 --> 01:30:20,233
current rent to the

3043
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:23,500
anticipated new future rent

3044
01:30:20,333 --> 01:30:25,033
was anywhere from 250 to $450

3045
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,700
for each bedroom.

3046
01:30:25,133 --> 01:30:27,133
can you speak a little bit to

3047
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,100
that?

3048
01:30:27,233 --> 01:30:31,866
the reason I'm asking about it

3049
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:33,300
is just knowing this is a

3050
01:30:31,966 --> 01:30:36,033
short-term fix, knowing that

3051
01:30:33,566 --> 01:30:37,266
12 months from now, most

3052
01:30:36,133 --> 01:30:38,566
likely people will not be able

3053
01:30:37,366 --> 01:30:39,800
to move back into their unit,

3054
01:30:38,666 --> 01:30:41,366
they'd have to go through the

3055
01:30:39,900 --> 01:30:43,300
whole leasing process again, I

3056
01:30:41,966 --> 01:30:44,633
am conceed that 12 months

3057
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:47,833
from now we're going to be in

3058
01:30:45,166 --> 01:30:49,500
the same situation where

3059
01:30:47,933 --> 01:30:51,766
folks, because of not having

3060
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:54,833
the differential of the extra

3061
01:30:51,866 --> 01:30:58,200
250 to 450 a month, are going

3062
01:30:54,933 --> 01:30:59,966
to be over their skis in being

3063
01:30:58,300 --> 01:31:01,166
able to stay in that unit that

3064
01:31:00,133 --> 01:31:02,600
we provided for them for a

3065
01:31:01,266 --> 01:31:04,766
year.

3066
01:31:02,866 --> 01:31:06,233
» Chair chowdhury, council

3067
01:31:04,866 --> 01:31:06,900
member shaffer, thanks for

3068
01:31:06,333 --> 01:31:08,666
those questions.

3069
01:31:07,300 --> 01:31:09,966
I put the table back up.

3070
01:31:08,766 --> 01:31:11,916
these are illustrative.

3071
01:31:10,066 --> 01:31:18,433
this is an average estimated

3072
01:31:12,033 --> 01:31:20,500
monthly rent based on

3073
01:31:18,533 --> 01:31:22,900
affordability figures based on

3074
01:31:20,833 --> 01:31:25,033
one-bedroom to five-bedroom.

3075
01:31:23,133 --> 01:31:28,566
there's an expecting that --

3076
01:31:25,133 --> 01:31:30,000
the reason we provide this

3077
01:31:28,666 --> 01:31:33,033
stipend for rent differential

3078
01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:34,366
is because of a shock where

3079
01:31:33,133 --> 01:31:36,266
you're ming from one place

3080
01:31:34,466 --> 01:31:38,366
and then the rent goes up and

3081
01:31:36,366 --> 01:31:40,633
this gives the ability for

3082
01:31:38,466 --> 01:31:43,766
households to stablize their

3083
01:31:40,733 --> 01:31:47,366
budgets, to figure out how to

3084
01:31:43,866 --> 01:31:48,800
control for that rental

3085
01:31:47,466 --> 01:31:51,433
increase in month 13.

3086
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:54,266
this is typical of relocation

3087
01:31:51,533 --> 01:31:56,033
policies that we've had, is to

3088
01:31:54,366 --> 01:31:57,166
give a certain period of time

3089
01:31:56,133 --> 01:31:59,000
for people to make it.

3090
01:31:57,266 --> 01:32:00,200
and we see mostly that

3091
01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:02,733
households will put their

3092
01:32:00,300 --> 01:32:03,766
money into rent first and

3093
01:32:02,833 --> 01:32:07,500
other things, and then we're

3094
01:32:03,866 --> 01:32:09,900
trying to make it as clean and

3095
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:14,033
easy as possible for that move

3096
01:32:10,433 --> 01:32:15,100
to take place by offering the

3097
01:32:14,133 --> 01:32:18,466
moving stipend which, you

3098
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:19,433
know, varies from $3,500 to

3099
01:32:18,566 --> 01:32:20,866
$7,500, depending on bedroom

3100
01:32:19,833 --> 01:32:22,033
size, but that's also a way

3101
01:32:20,966 --> 01:32:23,466
for them to absorb that shock

3102
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,000
of moving and make it as

3103
01:32:23,566 --> 01:32:25,066
smooth as possible.

3104
01:32:24,100 --> 01:32:26,033
» Okay.

3105
01:32:25,166 --> 01:32:28,333
and so you're confident a year

3106
01:32:26,133 --> 01:32:29,433
from now we won't be in the

3107
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:29,666
me situation with another

3108
01:32:29,533 --> 01:32:34,833
policy?

3109
01:32:30,183 --> 01:32:35,366
» Chair chowdhury, council

3110
01:32:34,933 --> 01:32:37,366
member shaffer, we already

3111
01:32:35,466 --> 01:32:38,566
know that there's a

3112
01:32:37,466 --> 01:32:39,333
extraordinary burden on

3113
01:32:38,666 --> 01:32:39,800
renters in the city of

3114
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,633
minneapolis.

3115
01:32:39,900 --> 01:32:42,700
the people who livet

3116
01:32:41,733 --> 01:32:44,200
heritage park are most likely

3117
01:32:42,833 --> 01:32:45,766
the same situation where

3118
01:32:44,300 --> 01:32:46,633
they're paying more than 30%

3119
01:32:45,866 --> 01:32:47,433
or higher than their income on

3120
01:32:46,733 --> 01:32:50,600
rent.

3121
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:51,333
so it's unaordable rent in a

3122
01:32:50,700 --> 01:32:53,100
lot of cases.

3123
01:32:51,433 --> 01:32:54,133
and, so, we will still have

3124
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:57,733
that problem regardless of who

3125
01:32:54,666 --> 01:32:58,266
we do, whether we're in

3126
01:32:57,833 --> 01:33:00,166
heteroheritage -- whether

3127
01:32:58,366 --> 01:33:01,200
we're in heritage park, I

3128
01:33:00,266 --> 01:33:02,500
would imagine there are people

3129
01:33:01,300 --> 01:33:04,366
in heritage park who are rent

3130
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,233
burdenedow, so they will,

3131
01:33:04,466 --> 01:33:06,900
unfortunately, ctinue to be

3132
01:33:05,533 --> 01:33:09,200
rent burdened in the future.

3133
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:12,733
want city,he way the

3134
01:33:09,300 --> 01:33:15,933
structure -- the city, the

3135
01:33:12,833 --> 01:33:17,500
structure, the way of housing

3136
01:33:16,033 --> 01:33:18,900
inequality, we're not in a

3137
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,600
position to address that whole

3138
01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:22,133
problem, but it will be aproble,

3139
01:33:20,700 --> 01:33:23,233
not just these 83 households.

3140
01:33:22,500 --> 01:33:24,900
» Well, thank you for trying

3141
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,233
to figure out the best way to

3142
01:33:25,333 --> 01:33:26,900
handle this and that

3143
01:33:26,333 --> 01:33:29,866
explanation helps me.

3144
01:33:27,066 --> 01:33:32,500
I would just say, with srf, in

3145
01:33:29,966 --> 01:33:33,700
your continued negotiations,

3146
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,500
you know,ith that number, if

3147
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:38,600
that number is correct, you

3148
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:40,233
know, that's about $000 per

3149
01:33:38,833 --> 01:33:43,300
family, or per unit, and that

3150
01:33:40,433 --> 01:33:44,066
is almost equal to the

3151
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,866
one-bedroom relocation.

3152
01:33:44,266 --> 01:33:47,066
and, so, maybe there's some

3153
01:33:45,966 --> 01:33:48,733
way we can tier it to the size

3154
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,366
of the unit or some sort like

3155
01:33:49,166 --> 01:33:53,266
that.

3156
01:33:49,466 --> 01:33:53,466
but thank you for your work on

3157
01:33:53,366 --> 01:33:54,166
this.

3158
01:33:53,566 --> 01:33:55,233
we're going to make I

3159
01:33:54,266 --> 01:33:56,600
through.

3160
01:33:55,533 --> 01:33:57,866
we just gotta help everybody

3161
01:33:56,700 --> 01:34:01,833
else make it through.

3162
01:33:58,166 --> 01:34:02,633
» Yeah.

3163
01:34:01,933 --> 01:34:03,333
» All right.

3164
01:34:02,733 --> 01:34:07,600
thank you.

3165
01:34:03,433 --> 01:34:10,066
are there any other council

3166
01:34:07,700 --> 01:34:10,400
members that want to get into

3167
01:34:10,166 --> 01:34:12,233
queue?

3168
01:34:10,500 --> 01:34:13,000
seeing none, is there a motion

3169
01:34:12,333 --> 01:34:15,166
for this item?

3170
01:34:13,266 --> 01:34:16,700
» So moved.

3171
01:34:15,333 --> 01:34:18,000
» Secd.

3172
01:34:16,966 --> 01:34:21,033
» Great.

3173
01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:22,566
all those in favor say aye.

3174
01:34:21,533 --> 01:34:26,500
those opposed say nay.

3175
01:34:22,666 --> 01:34:29,466
that motion carries.

3176
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:31,800
our next discussion item was

3177
01:34:29,566 --> 01:34:32,800
originally scheduled for the

3178
01:34:31,900 --> 01:34:34,000
climate and irastructure

3179
01:34:32,900 --> 01:34:35,733
meeting lasthursday, august

3180
01:34:34,733 --> 01:34:36,166
6, but was postponed due to

3181
01:34:35,833 --> 01:34:38,200
time.

3182
01:34:36,266 --> 01:34:39,900
this all item authorizes a no

3183
01:34:38,300 --> 01:34:41,700
cost contract with oncourse

3184
01:34:40,266 --> 01:34:45,000
home solutions for sewer

3185
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:46,366
lateral insurance program.

3186
01:34:45,100 --> 01:34:48,033
I'll invite ross jon yack,

3187
01:34:46,466 --> 01:34:48,900
manager with sanitary sewer

3188
01:34:48,133 --> 01:34:49,766
division, to get us started

3189
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:50,533
about this new pgram.

3190
01:34:49,866 --> 01:34:53,200
welcome.

3191
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,433
» Chair chowdhury, council

3192
01:34:53,300 --> 01:34:55,066
members, thanks for havg me

3193
01:34:54,533 --> 01:34:58,033
this afternoon.

3194
01:34:55,166 --> 01:34:58,300
I'm here to talk about the

3195
01:34:58,133 --> 01:35:00,266
insurance.

3196
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:02,900
you said my name but it's ross

3197
01:35:00,366 --> 01:35:07,600
jon yack, again,anager of

3198
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:09,766
the business team for things,

3199
01:35:07,700 --> 01:35:10,066
sewer, infrastructure,

3200
01:35:09,850 --> 01:35:12,600
division.

3201
01:35:10,266 --> 01:35:13,900
before getting into the

3202
01:35:12,700 --> 01:35:15,766
program, I just want to kind

3203
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:18,366
of go over the basics of the

3204
01:35:15,866 --> 01:35:19,200
sewer lateral and some of the

3205
01:35:18,466 --> 01:35:21,066
common problems that occur.

3206
01:35:19,733 --> 01:35:21,833
so with the sewer lateral,

3207
01:35:21,166 --> 01:35:23,100
it's one of those things that

3208
01:35:21,933 --> 01:35:24,066
I allot of homeowners don't

3209
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,933
realize that they own a that

3210
01:35:24,166 --> 01:35:27,333
they have to maintain.

3211
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,200
it's the lateral that leaves

3212
01:35:27,433 --> 01:35:30,400
your house, and it takesour

3213
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:32,266
waste, it takes your toilet

3214
01:35:30,500 --> 01:35:34,600
waste, it takes your sink,

3215
01:35:32,366 --> 01:35:35,333
your dish wash e your shower,

3216
01:35:34,700 --> 01:35:36,800
your clothes washer, it takes

3217
01:35:35,433 --> 01:35:40,533
all of that and it conveys it

3218
01:35:38,833 --> 01:35:41,300
to the main that's out in the

3219
01:35:40,633 --> 01:35:42,266
middle othe street.

3220
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:43,733
a lot of homeowners don't

3221
01:35:42,366 --> 01:35:45,066
realize that they do own that

3222
01:35:43,833 --> 01:35:45,866
sewer lateral all the way from

3223
01:35:45,166 --> 01:35:46,866
their house all the way

3224
01:35:45,966 --> 01:35:48,266
through the yard out to the

3225
01:35:46,966 --> 01:35:51,000
street under the sidewalk, as

3226
01:35:48,366 --> 01:35:53,200
well as the connection.

3227
01:35:51,100 --> 01:35:55,533
so, that's in city ordinance,

3228
01:35:53,300 --> 01:35:57,166
been existing f a long time.

3229
01:35:55,633 --> 01:35:59,700
some of the common issues that

3230
01:35:57,266 --> 01:36:01,766
exist with these had lines is

3231
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,200
root intrusion, so all those

3232
01:36:02,133 --> 01:36:04,266
nderful trees, they're great

3233
01:36:03,533 --> 01:36:05,433
at finding moisture, so they

3234
01:36:04,366 --> 01:36:06,200
will go out there and they

3235
01:36:05,533 --> 01:36:07,066
will find moisture in the

3236
01:36:06,300 --> 01:36:09,100
sewe line.

3237
01:36:07,166 --> 01:36:10,533
so they find a crack, and they

3238
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,700
start to develop issues within

3239
01:36:11,366 --> 01:36:13,150
e line.

3240
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:15,400
probably the number one thing

3241
01:36:13,266 --> 01:36:16,400
that we get calls about is

3242
01:36:15,500 --> 01:36:17,366
people having root intrusions

3243
01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:19,866
into a line.

3244
01:36:18,166 --> 01:36:22,033
so cracks exist.

3245
01:36:19,966 --> 01:36:26,366
also the gap at the connection

3246
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:28,333
to the main can develop issues

3247
01:36:26,466 --> 01:36:29,166
where it disconnects.

3248
01:36:28,433 --> 01:36:30,433
another common one that's not

3249
01:36:29,250 --> 01:36:32,200
in the image here, there will

3250
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,800
be dips in the line, so at

3251
01:36:32,300 --> 01:36:34,433
some point the erosion

3252
01:36:33,900 --> 01:36:35,733
happened below the lin it

3253
01:36:34,533 --> 01:36:38,466
dips out, and then those dips

3254
01:36:35,833 --> 01:36:42,600
start to not let the graff

3255
01:36:38,566 --> 01:36:43,466
temporary flow of the line

3256
01:36:42,700 --> 01:36:44,466
occur not anymore.

3257
01:36:43,566 --> 01:36:45,433
most of the lines in the city,

3258
01:36:44,566 --> 01:36:46,366
they're orinal, right?

3259
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,466
so they're original from when

3260
01:36:46,466 --> 01:36:48,333
the home was built.

3261
01:36:47,566 --> 01:36:49,433
majority of the homes in

3262
01:36:48,433 --> 01:36:49,966
minneapolis were bui prior

3263
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:53,433
to 1939.

3264
01:36:50,166 --> 01:36:55,466
so we're looking at 90, 100,

3265
01:36:53,533 --> 01:36:56,700
you know, we see, you know, up

3266
01:36:55,700 --> 01:36:57,833
to 150 years, right?

3267
01:36:56,933 --> 01:36:59,066
some of these lines are really

3268
01:36:57,933 --> 01:37:00,300
really old.

3269
01:36:59,166 --> 01:37:01,600
average repair costs that we

3270
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,133
see for the ones that kind of

3271
01:37:01,833 --> 01:37:03,766
co through our programs is

3272
01:37:03,233 --> 01:37:04,933
$13,000.

3273
01:37:03,866 --> 01:37:05,366
there's definitely a wide

3274
01:37:05,033 --> 01:37:08,100
range.

3275
01:37:05,466 --> 01:37:09,833
I've seen up to $40,000.

3276
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,666
so they can get really

3277
01:37:09,933 --> 01:37:15,833
expensive to repair the

3278
01:37:10,766 --> 01:37:16,633
things.

3279
01:37:15,933 --> 01:37:19,000
current programs that we have

3280
01:37:16,733 --> 01:37:20,433
right now, we have a sewer --

3281
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:21,000
private sewer lateral grant

3282
01:37:20,533 --> 01:37:23,666
program.

3283
01:37:21,100 --> 01:37:25,433
homeowners can get a grant of

3284
01:37:23,766 --> 01:37:25,866
5,000, 7500, or $10,000

3285
01:37:25,533 --> 01:37:27,000
grants.

3286
01:37:25,966 --> 01:37:27,233
this funding comes from met

3287
01:37:27,100 --> 01:37:28,233
council.

3288
01:37:27,333 --> 01:37:30,000
we'veeen doing the program

3289
01:37:28,333 --> 01:37:33,500
for three years now.

3290
01:37:30,100 --> 01:37:35,566
this year we had 350

3291
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:37,233
applications and only enough

3292
01:37:35,666 --> 01:37:38,366
funding for 36 grants.

3293
01:37:37,333 --> 01:37:40,666
and, so, definitely a long

3294
01:37:38,466 --> 01:37:41,866
wait list and that 350

3295
01:37:40,766 --> 01:37:45,133
applications, those are all

3296
01:37:41,966 --> 01:37:46,166
homeowners who submitted

3297
01:37:45,233 --> 01:37:47,300
that -- they proved that they

3298
01:37:46,266 --> 01:37:48,700
had issues with their lines,

3299
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:49,733
not just people saying, oh,

3300
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,566
I'm interested in applying,

3301
01:37:49,900 --> 01:37:52,833
these are people that

3302
01:37:52,100 --> 01:37:54,233
contractors report, yup, fix

3303
01:37:52,933 --> 01:37:55,566
your line, heard about the

3304
01:37:54,333 --> 01:37:57,533
program and applied for it.

3305
01:37:55,733 --> 01:37:57,966
so definitely a big need

3306
01:37:57,633 --> 01:37:59,733
there.

3307
01:37:58,066 --> 01:38:01,000
definitely evidenced by the

3308
01:37:59,833 --> 01:38:04,733
just the number of people

3309
01:38:01,100 --> 01:38:05,500
applying forhat this year.

3310
01:38:04,833 --> 01:38:07,700
it's an assessment program.

3311
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,633
so with this, the sanitary

3312
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:10,500
sewer fund financially

3313
01:38:09,733 --> 01:38:11,166
supports individuals fixing

3314
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:12,233
their line.

3315
01:38:11,266 --> 01:38:14,100
they can assess it to their

3316
01:38:12,333 --> 01:38:16,466
property taxes at a five, ten,

3317
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:18,533
15, 20-year payback period.

3318
01:38:17,533 --> 01:38:19,300
in 2025, there was 116

3319
01:38:18,733 --> 01:38:20,633
property owners that took

3320
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,966
advantage of this program.

3321
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:25,166
at the cost to the sanitar

3322
01:38:23,066 --> 01:38:25,633
sewer fund of $1.1 million in

3323
01:38:25,500 --> 01:38:28,566
repairs.

3324
01:38:25,733 --> 01:38:30,100
just as we were sitting there,

3325
01:38:28,833 --> 01:38:31,450
we get, we have an online

3326
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:35,300
application system, I got one

3327
01:38:31,566 --> 01:38:36,433
in, the homeowner is facing

3328
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:38,100
$25,000, and they're choosing

3329
01:38:36,666 --> 01:38:39,633
to assess that over 20 years.

3330
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,833
so, they can always pay it

3331
01:38:39,733 --> 01:38:42,400
back early buts a homeowner,

3332
01:38:40,933 --> 01:38:44,500
now you're having to pay that

3333
01:38:42,500 --> 01:38:44,933
back and it's going to be on

3334
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:45,933
your property taxes.

3335
01:38:45,033 --> 01:38:48,033
so it's great the program

3336
01:38:46,033 --> 01:38:50,400
exists, but it's not always

3337
01:38:48,133 --> 01:38:51,100
the best thing when you

3338
01:38:50,500 --> 01:38:52,700
already have property taxes

3339
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:58,733
that are going up as well to

3340
01:38:52,800 --> 01:39:00,133
have something else on there.

3341
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:02,300
so private sewer lateral

3342
01:39:00,233 --> 01:39:04,733
insurance, so, we issued an

3343
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:06,333
rfp earlier in 2026.

3344
01:39:04,833 --> 01:39:07,266
with this program it's 100%

3345
01:39:06,433 --> 01:39:08,933
optional, it's not being

3346
01:39:07,366 --> 01:39:11,100
forced object any homeowner,

3347
01:39:09,100 --> 01:39:11,633
no one needs to sign up for

3348
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:13,133
it.

3349
01:39:11,733 --> 01:39:14,233
the city endorsing a company

3350
01:39:13,233 --> 01:39:15,200
allows homeowners to get a

3351
01:39:14,333 --> 01:39:17,500
better rate in coverage limit

3352
01:39:15,533 --> 01:39:18,700
than what it available on the

3353
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,433
open market, for the most

3354
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,233
part.

3355
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:20,866
no city funds will be used

3356
01:39:20,333 --> 01:39:22,300
for this.

3357
01:39:21,033 --> 01:39:23,333
so it's not costing the city

3358
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:25,600
any money.

3359
01:39:23,433 --> 01:39:26,266
the city will provide branding

3360
01:39:25,700 --> 01:39:27,166
and customer contact

3361
01:39:26,366 --> 01:39:28,566
information.

3362
01:39:27,266 --> 01:39:29,666
so, that is really kind of the

3363
01:39:28,666 --> 01:39:31,800
part on the city side.

3364
01:39:29,766 --> 01:39:33,400
you know, you put yr logo on

3365
01:39:31,900 --> 01:39:34,466
there, you know, we want to

3366
01:39:33,500 --> 01:39:35,166
stand behind a company to

3367
01:39:34,566 --> 01:39:37,133
provide a good service.

3368
01:39:35,266 --> 01:39:38,800
and many cities in minnesota,

3369
01:39:37,433 --> 01:39:39,800
in and around the country have

3370
01:39:38,900 --> 01:39:42,100
similar partnerships.

3371
01:39:41,083 --> 01:39:43,733
so this is nothing new.

3372
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:44,700
we're not coming up with a new

3373
01:39:43,833 --> 01:39:48,466
idea, it very very common

3374
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:51,733
around the country.

3375
01:39:48,566 --> 01:39:53,033
from the rfp, we've decided to

3376
01:39:52,033 --> 01:39:53,733
go with oncourse home

3377
01:39:53,566 --> 01:39:56,366
solutions.

3378
01:39:53,833 --> 01:39:56,900
they are endorsed by the

3379
01:39:56,466 --> 01:39:58,800
national league ofities.

3380
01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:00,100
the rate that they're offering

3381
01:39:58,900 --> 01:40:02,566
for the first three years of

3382
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:05,033
this program is, for the first

3383
01:40:02,666 --> 01:40:06,866
year it would be $5.49 per

3384
01:40:05,133 --> 01:40:07,966
month for a homeowner.

3385
01:40:06,966 --> 01:40:10,233
and then after that first year

3386
01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:11,600
it would go up to $9.99 per

3387
01:40:10,333 --> 01:40:14,500
month after that, you know,

3388
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:15,700
first 12 months.

3389
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,550
the coverage limit, number 3

3390
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:19,366
there, is an unlimited dollar

3391
01:40:17,666 --> 01:40:20,433
coverage limit for repair or

3392
01:40:19,466 --> 01:40:22,000
replacement of residential

3393
01:40:20,533 --> 01:40:22,966
sewer service lines.

3394
01:40:22,100 --> 01:40:25,066
that's why I w mentioning

3395
01:40:23,066 --> 01:40:26,666
those costs earlier, that you

3396
01:40:25,166 --> 01:40:27,866
get really expensive, if you

3397
01:40:26,766 --> 01:40:29,383
can have insurance, it's going

3398
01:40:27,966 --> 01:40:30,366
to cover that, versus only

3399
01:40:29,500 --> 01:40:30,900
covering part of it, it's a

3400
01:40:30,466 --> 01:40:32,600
great deal.

3401
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:34,033
this insurance also has

3402
01:40:32,700 --> 01:40:36,133
additional benefits.

3403
01:40:34,133 --> 01:40:37,433
$1,000 per ourrence,

3404
01:40:36,233 --> 01:40:38,866
out-of-pocket restoration

3405
01:40:37,533 --> 01:40:40,766
costs, $1500 for hotel

3406
01:40:39,666 --> 01:40:42,633
accommodations or $500 bet

3407
01:40:40,866 --> 01:40:43,866
boarding.

3408
01:40:42,733 --> 01:40:45,166
pet boarding.

3409
01:40:43,966 --> 01:40:46,166
really that number 3 is one

3410
01:40:45,266 --> 01:40:47,233
of the big reasons why we

3411
01:40:46,266 --> 01:40:49,833
wanted to go with oncourse,

3412
01:40:47,333 --> 01:40:50,233
along withhe rate that

3413
01:40:49,933 --> 01:40:51,966
they're offering.

3414
01:40:50,333 --> 01:40:53,500
in addition to that they're

3415
01:40:52,066 --> 01:40:54,600
offering a $100,000 community

3416
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,700
partnership fund, one-time

3417
01:40:54,700 --> 01:40:56,233
amount of money to come to the

3418
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:58,800
city.

3419
01:40:56,333 --> 01:40:59,566
number 5 there would be an

3420
01:40:58,900 --> 01:41:00,366
annual $50,000 customer

3421
01:40:59,666 --> 01:41:02,633
hardship fund.

3422
01:41:00,466 --> 01:41:04,500
that fund would be something

3423
01:41:02,733 --> 01:41:06,866
where we would refer a

3424
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,733
homeowner to them and, you

3425
01:41:06,966 --> 01:41:09,066
know, cover -- it could be

3426
01:41:07,833 --> 01:41:10,366
someone who doesn't have the

3427
01:41:09,166 --> 01:41:11,466
insuranc

3428
01:41:10,566 --> 01:41:12,400
the way these programs work,

3429
01:41:11,566 --> 01:41:13,400
not everyone's going to hear

3430
01:41:12,500 --> 01:41:14,566
approximate it, right you?

3431
01:41:13,500 --> 01:41:16,566
knowhere's going to be a lot

3432
01:41:14,866 --> 01:41:17,400
of marketing that happens, but

3433
01:41:16,766 --> 01:41:20,566
someone might not have heard

3434
01:41:17,500 --> 01:41:22,333
about it, didn't sign up for

3435
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,966
it, didn't think they uld

3436
01:41:22,433 --> 01:41:25,000
afford the extra amount of

3437
01:41:24,066 --> 01:41:28,066
money per month but they're in

3438
01:41:25,733 --> 01:41:29,500
a hardship situation.

3439
01:41:28,166 --> 01:41:33,000
last year we got a call from a

3440
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:34,100
case worker, a woman eye line

3441
01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:35,400
impacted up.

3442
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:36,833
we have somhing who can help

3443
01:41:35,500 --> 01:41:37,933
but we don't have programs to

3444
01:41:36,933 --> 01:41:38,700
help with the cleanup that

3445
01:41:38,033 --> 01:41:39,966
might occur.

3446
01:41:38,866 --> 01:41:42,166
so something like that is

3447
01:41:40,066 --> 01:41:45,333
something we could refer to

3448
01:41:42,266 --> 01:41:46,200
this amount of money.

3449
01:41:45,433 --> 01:41:48,900
$50,000 probably wouldn't go

3450
01:41:46,300 --> 01:41:50,566
very far, it gets spent

3451
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:52,966
quickly.

3452
01:41:50,666 --> 01:41:54,966
next steps withhis program,

3453
01:41:53,066 --> 01:41:56,500
we need to refine and approve

3454
01:41:55,066 --> 01:41:57,300
the crowd with -- contract

3455
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,266
with oncourse.

3456
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,500
I'm currently working on that.

3457
01:41:59,366 --> 01:42:01,366
outreach to neighborhood

3458
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:02,466
associations, develop a city

3459
01:42:01,466 --> 01:42:04,166
website, just so people have a

3460
01:42:02,566 --> 01:42:05,700
place to go if they're

3461
01:42:04,266 --> 01:42:07,000
questioning what the

3462
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,333
program's about.

3463
01:42:07,100 --> 01:42:09,633
approve the marketing material

3464
01:42:08,433 --> 01:42:11,216
that oncourse will use.

3465
01:42:09,733 --> 01:42:14,033
anything they send out, we'll

3466
01:42:11,333 --> 01:42:14,966
approve and have 100% approval

3467
01:42:14,133 --> 01:42:16,366
for.

3468
01:42:15,066 --> 01:42:17,700
and then that last thing, kind

3469
01:42:16,566 --> 01:42:19,100
of mentioned that, set upome

3470
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,533
guidelines for that annual

3471
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:22,266
$50,000 hardship fund.

3472
01:42:20,733 --> 01:42:28,266
you know, at what point do we

3473
01:42:22,366 --> 01:42:29,566
refer someone who calls?

3474
01:42:28,700 --> 01:42:30,566
and finally, yeah, just,

3475
01:42:29,666 --> 01:42:31,533
again, thank you for your

3476
01:42:30,666 --> 01:42:34,233
time.

3477
01:42:31,633 --> 01:42:35,333
happy to have any -- answer

3478
01:42:34,333 --> 01:42:36,533
any questions now or if

3479
01:42:35,433 --> 01:42:37,500
there's any in-person

3480
01:42:36,633 --> 01:42:38,766
briefings anyone wants, would

3481
01:42:37,700 --> 01:42:40,333
be happy to meet with you.

3482
01:42:39,333 --> 01:42:40,533
» Yeah, thank you so much,

3483
01:42:40,433 --> 01:42:42,233
ross.

3484
01:42:40,633 --> 01:42:43,066
this is really exciting

3485
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:45,566
prtation.

3486
01:42:43,266 --> 01:42:47,466
kind of glad that we had it

3487
01:42:45,666 --> 01:42:47,966
moved into cow so everyon

3488
01:42:47,566 --> 01:42:51,333
could get it.

3489
01:42:48,133 --> 01:42:51,766
we have a couple of council

3490
01:42:51,433 --> 01:42:53,666
members in queue

3491
01:42:52,500 --> 01:42:54,033
we can go to council member

3492
01:42:53,766 --> 01:42:55,533
whiting first.

3493
01:42:54,133 --> 01:42:57,200
» Thank you, chair chowdhury,

3494
01:42:55,633 --> 01:42:59,333
thank you to ross and angie.

3495
01:42:57,466 --> 01:43:00,600
I know this has been something

3496
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:02,533
I  aggresivelyxcited

3497
01:43:00,700 --> 01:43:03,733
about, particularly here for

3498
01:43:02,633 --> 01:43:05,000
ward 11 being one of the

3499
01:43:03,833 --> 01:43:05,733
highest homeownership wards in

3500
01:43:05,100 --> 01:43:07,000
the city.

3501
01:43:05,833 --> 01:43:10,600
and this is a strong statement

3502
01:43:07,100 --> 01:43:11,466
coming from someone that hates

3503
01:43:10,700 --> 01:43:13,533
insurance, hates insurance

3504
01:43:11,566 --> 01:43:15,300
broadly, so anyone that knows

3505
01:43:13,633 --> 01:43:16,900
me, I could not be -- I could

3506
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:17,466
not be in more support of a

3507
01:43:17,133 --> 01:43:19,000
policy lik

3508
01:43:17,566 --> 01:43:20,633
this I think it is helpf for

3509
01:43:19,100 --> 01:43:22,500
individuals to know, I think

3510
01:43:20,733 --> 01:43:24,100
maybe my example, I got a call

3511
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:26,400
from my mom, goodness,

3512
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:29,800
probably about six months ago,

3513
01:43:26,500 --> 01:43:32,800
particar to -- she was

3514
01:43:29,900 --> 01:43:33,466
extremely worried, kind of,

3515
01:43:32,900 --> 01:43:34,900
jamison, how the heck am I

3516
01:43:33,566 --> 01:43:36,100
going to retire?

3517
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:36,950
mom, hold on, what's actually

3518
01:43:36,633 --> 01:43:38,366
happening, right?

3519
01:43:37,066 --> 01:43:39,566
so there was a root intrusion.

3520
01:43:38,466 --> 01:43:41,100
she got an estimate of

3521
01:43:39,666 --> 01:43:44,000
somewhere upwards of $15,000

3522
01:43:41,266 --> 01:43:45,483
to come and replace her sewer

3523
01:43:44,100 --> 01:43:47,933
line that she didn't know that

3524
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,833
she had or even existed.

3525
01:43:48,033 --> 01:43:50,333
and, so, I think this is

3526
01:43:48,933 --> 01:43:52,266
something, you know, what she

3527
01:43:50,433 --> 01:43:53,466
told me, hey, can you figure

3528
01:43:52,566 --> 01:43:55,000
this with the city?

3529
01:43:53,566 --> 01:43:55,633
mom, it takes a little bit

3530
01:43:55,100 --> 01:43:56,933
longer than that.

3531
01:43:55,733 --> 01:43:58,233
thank you for putting me in

3532
01:43:57,033 --> 01:44:00,433
good graces with my mom.

3533
01:43:58,333 --> 01:44:02,033
but I can't thank you enough

3534
01:44:00,533 --> 01:44:05,533
for this wk, in particular,

3535
01:44:02,133 --> 01:44:06,133
to my predecessor as well,

3536
01:44:05,633 --> 01:44:07,600
counsel council member koski,

3537
01:44:06,233 --> 01:44:09,633
for kind of putting this in

3538
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:11,633
motion, 's one of the thingsthat

3539
01:44:09,733 --> 01:44:12,400
initially, right, when I came

3540
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:14,533
in to office here.

3541
01:44:12,716 --> 01:44:16,133
I know her fourears of work

3542
01:44:14,633 --> 01:44:17,266
to get this off the ground as

3543
01:44:16,233 --> 01:44:19,733
well.

3544
01:44:17,366 --> 01:44:20,766
and so, again, I just can't

3545
01:44:19,833 --> 01:44:21,866
think, public works, you all

3546
01:44:20,866 --> 01:44:23,533
enough for doinghis with the

3547
01:44:21,950 --> 01:44:25,250
level of speed, transparency,

3548
01:44:23,633 --> 01:44:27,133
I think accuracy for thi

3549
01:44:25,366 --> 01:44:30,600
I think the only questio that

3550
01:44:27,233 --> 01:44:32,566
I have particular to kind of

3551
01:44:30,700 --> 01:44:35,133
the -- oh, goodness -- the

3552
01:44:32,666 --> 01:44:35,933
hardship fund that we have

3553
01:44:35,233 --> 01:44:38,666
object here -- on here, kind

3554
01:44:36,100 --> 01:44:39,433
of the 50,000 and then the

3555
01:44:38,766 --> 01:44:41,300
community partnership fd of

3556
01:44:39,533 --> 01:44:43,766
the initial one-time payment,

3557
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:45,100
looking at those 350

3558
01:44:43,866 --> 01:44:46,300
applicants, for kind of that

3559
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:48,000
lateral sewer grant, I just

3560
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:49,966
kind of did quick math, you

3561
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:52,166
know, if we took that at the

3562
01:44:50,300 --> 01:44:53,600
average repair, right, that's

3563
01:44:52,266 --> 01:44:56,566
$4.5 million across all of

3564
01:44:53,700 --> 01:44:58,166
those applicantsor one year

3565
01:44:56,666 --> 01:45:01,000
in the city of minneapolis.

3566
01:44:58,333 --> 01:45:02,866
I guess the question is, how

3567
01:45:01,100 --> 01:45:04,533
often is this -- are we kind

3568
01:45:03,033 --> 01:45:05,533
of seeing these things kind of

3569
01:45:04,633 --> 01:45:07,000
pop up and happen across the

3570
01:45:05,633 --> 01:45:10,633
city of minneolis where

3571
01:45:07,100 --> 01:45:13,533
there's som level of lateral

3572
01:45:10,733 --> 01:45:13,766
sewer line replacement or

3573
01:45:13,633 --> 01:45:15,800
repair?

3574
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:17,066
I know repairappens to

3575
01:45:15,900 --> 01:45:18,633
happen more oftenhan the

3576
01:45:17,166 --> 01:45:20,733
full replacement does.

3577
01:45:19,366 --> 01:45:21,700
» Chairhowdhury, council

3578
01:45:20,833 --> 01:45:22,866
member whiting, I don't have

3579
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:23,833
the numbers for for you.

3580
01:45:22,966 --> 01:45:26,700
it's often.

3581
01:45:23,933 --> 01:45:27,400
and we see ones that arecoming d

3582
01:45:27,066 --> 01:45:28,866
assessment program.

3583
01:45:27,500 --> 01:45:29,733
there are some, they don't

3584
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:31,166
come through those proams

3585
01:45:29,833 --> 01:45:31,633
and they're just calling a

3586
01:45:31,266 --> 01:45:33,133
contractor.

3587
01:45:31,766 --> 01:45:34,200
I can definitely pull some

3588
01:45:33,233 --> 01:45:35,400
numbers, we can pull the

3589
01:45:34,300 --> 01:45:35,933
permit numbers, how many

3590
01:45:35,500 --> 01:45:37,566
permits are happening.

3591
01:45:36,033 --> 01:45:39,533
it's a good estimate.

3592
01:45:37,666 --> 01:45:41,600
it's a lot.

3593
01:45:39,833 --> 01:45:41,933
» Yeah, no, that's really

3594
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:43,333
helpful.

3595
01:45:42,033 --> 01:45:44,200
let us know how we can be

3596
01:45:43,416 --> 01:45:44,666
helpful to kind of get the

3597
01:45:44,300 --> 01:45:46,366
word out.

3598
01:45:44,833 --> 01:45:47,566
I did some more quick math,

3599
01:45:46,466 --> 01:45:49,000
because you can tell how much

3600
01:45:47,666 --> 01:45:50,766
I hate insurance, it would

3601
01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:52,900
take 108 years of paying into

3602
01:45:51,033 --> 01:45:56,166
th insurance to get to tt

3603
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:57,400
average repair cost.

3604
01:45:56,266 --> 01:45:58,700
and, so, I think the

3605
01:45:57,533 --> 01:45:59,233
investment is well worth t

3606
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:02,100
rub here.

3607
01:45:59,433 --> 01:46:03,166
sohank you.

3608
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,566
» Thank you.

3609
01:46:03,266 --> 01:46:05,766
next we have council member

3610
01:46:04,666 --> 01:46:08,500
warren.

3611
01:46:06,066 --> 01:46:12,366
» Thank you, chair.

3612
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:13,333
this is great.

3613
01:46:12,466 --> 01:46:14,433
all of the sewer lines

3614
01:46:13,433 --> 01:46:15,266
underneath my house collapsed

3615
01:46:14,533 --> 01:46:19,533
about two years ago.

3616
01:46:15,366 --> 01:46:23,033
where you been?

3617
01:46:20,450 --> 01:46:24,600
so -- [ laughter ]

3618
01:46:23,433 --> 01:46:25,500
it was a real place.

3619
01:46:24,700 --> 01:46:28,566
it was devastating.

3620
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:29,900
but I know how expensive and

3621
01:46:28,666 --> 01:46:33,966
how detrimental that this can

3622
01:46:31,900 --> 01:46:35,533
be for people, and I knowhat

3623
01:46:34,066 --> 01:46:36,066
we also have an extremely long

3624
01:46:35,633 --> 01:46:38,266
waiting list.

3625
01:46:36,166 --> 01:46:39,466
when we opened uphe

3626
01:46:38,366 --> 01:46:42,033
application period for the

3627
01:46:39,566 --> 01:46:44,300
city earlier this year, I had

3628
01:46:42,133 --> 01:46:45,533
a number of residents calling,

3629
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,600
saying, when can I apply?

3630
01:46:45,633 --> 01:46:48,700
how did I get -- how do I get

3631
01:46:47,700 --> 01:46:49,466
on there?

3632
01:46:48,783 --> 01:46:50,466
what do I need to submit,

3633
01:46:49,566 --> 01:46:50,900
send, blah blah blah, what

3634
01:46:50,566 --> 01:46:52,966
haveou.

3635
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:54,166
and that were even having

3636
01:46:53,066 --> 01:46:56,233
trouble uploading photos or,

3637
01:46:54,266 --> 01:46:58,733
you know, inspection reports

3638
01:46:56,350 --> 01:47:00,600
in hopes of being chosen.

3639
01:46:59,100 --> 01:47:02,733
so wh this insurance, visdz

3640
01:47:00,700 --> 01:47:03,833
who have pre-existing

3641
01:47:02,833 --> 01:47:04,800
conditions, especiay our

3642
01:47:03,933 --> 01:47:07,033
seniors, who have been waiting

3643
01:47:05,333 --> 01:47:08,333
to get picked on this lottery

3644
01:47:07,133 --> 01:47:10,200
system that we have through

3645
01:47:08,433 --> 01:47:12,450
the city, are they eligible

3646
01:47:10,300 --> 01:47:13,766
for this insurance or, you

3647
01:47:12,900 --> 01:47:14,966
know, because sometimes

3648
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:15,900
insurance don't cover

3649
01:47:15,066 --> 01:47:18,233
pre-existing conditions?

3650
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:20,533
help me.

3651
01:47:18,933 --> 01:47:21,833
» Chair chowdhury, counci

3652
01:47:20,633 --> 01:47:23,966
member warren, yes, in talking

3653
01:47:23,166 --> 01:47:26,300
with oncourse home solutions,

3654
01:47:24,066 --> 01:47:27,500
we had the rfp, their

3655
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,666
response, we had them in for

3656
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,200
their presentation, it's one

3657
01:47:29,033 --> 01:47:31,200
ofur question.

3658
01:47:30,300 --> 01:47:32,400
it's pretty common, people

3659
01:47:31,300 --> 01:47:33,133
know they have root

3660
01:47:32,500 --> 01:47:34,500
intrusions, we wanted to make

3661
01:47:33,233 --> 01:47:35,300
youre sure it wasn't going

3662
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:36,000
to be an exclusion.

3663
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:36,333
they said it wasn't going to

3664
01:47:36,100 --> 01:47:37,933
be.

3665
01:47:36,533 --> 01:47:38,966
and when we do the contract,

3666
01:47:38,033 --> 01:47:40,666
we want to make sure that's

3667
01:47:39,066 --> 01:47:41,000
part of it as well so it's in

3668
01:47:40,766 --> 01:47:43,300
writing.

3669
01:47:41,733 --> 01:47:44,800
» Oka yeah, I would love a

3670
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:46,866
report back to make sure that

3671
01:47:44,900 --> 01:47:48,033
individuals are eligible for

3672
01:47:46,966 --> 01:47:49,800
this insurance because this is

3673
01:47:48,133 --> 01:47:53,183
something that would greatly

3674
01:47:50,366 --> 01:47:54,233
befit, I know especially our

3675
01:47:53,300 --> 01:47:56,533
seniors, because people have

3676
01:47:54,333 --> 01:48:00,400
gotten injured carrying those

3677
01:47:56,633 --> 01:48:03,000
huge augers up out of the

3678
01:48:00,500 --> 01:48:05,166
basement, those 150-footers

3679
01:48:03,100 --> 01:48:06,933
thatotta go to try to clear

3680
01:48:05,266 --> 01:48:08,266
out the lines, get the roots,

3681
01:48:07,133 --> 01:48:09,966
yeah, that stu is dangerous

3682
01:48:08,366 --> 01:48:10,966
carrying it up and down, you

3683
01:48:10,066 --> 01:48:13,800
know, to try to -- otherwise

3684
01:48:11,066 --> 01:48:15,766
you goto pay so much money.

3685
01:48:13,900 --> 01:48:17,533
like 5, $600 to have someone

3686
01:48:16,366 --> 01:48:19,766
go through your main stack,

3687
01:48:17,633 --> 01:48:20,800
all the way out, or through

3688
01:48:19,866 --> 01:48:22,266
yourleanout, whatever else.

3689
01:48:21,166 --> 01:48:23,266
I mean, that can get very

3690
01:48:22,366 --> 01:48:25,433
expensive.

3691
01:48:23,366 --> 01:48:27,333
and, so, knowing that we have

3692
01:48:25,533 --> 01:48:29,500
these beautiful and amazing

3693
01:48:27,433 --> 01:48:32,533
tree canopies that love sewage

3694
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:36,800
water in our front yards and

3695
01:48:32,633 --> 01:48:39,866
things, but they definitely do

3696
01:48:36,900 --> 01:48:41,700
a lot of damage to the

3697
01:48:39,966 --> 01:48:43,966
underground piping and we want

3698
01:48:42,433 --> 01:48:47,133
to make sure -- because

3699
01:48:44,066 --> 01:48:48,233
getting it sleeved can go

3700
01:48:47,233 --> 01:48:51,866
anywhere between $8,000 all

3701
01:48:48,333 --> 01:48:52,866
the way up to $50,000 to

3702
01:48:51,966 --> 01:48:54,700
$60,000.

3703
01:48:53,333 --> 01:48:56,966
I know, because when I -- I'm

3704
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:57,433
telling you, they collapsed

3705
01:48:57,066 --> 01:48:59,366
underneath my house.

3706
01:48:57,533 --> 01:49:01,766
and the city sent me out a

3707
01:48:59,466 --> 01:49:03,400
list, it was like 15 or 16

3708
01:49:01,866 --> 01:49:05,466
different contractors of who

3709
01:49:03,500 --> 01:49:06,600
they allow to come in contact

3710
01:49:05,566 --> 01:49:07,766
with their lines.

3711
01:49:06,700 --> 01:49:09,866
because the lines from our

3712
01:49:07,866 --> 01:49:12,600
house go all the way to meet

3713
01:49:09,966 --> 01:49:15,200
the sewage line in the city.

3714
01:49:12,700 --> 01:49:17,066
and, so, if they got to open

3715
01:49:15,966 --> 01:49:18,166
up, excavate and then disrupt

3716
01:49:17,166 --> 01:49:20,300
the sidewalk and whatever

3717
01:49:18,266 --> 01:49:21,833
else, like the homeowner has

3718
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:26,133
to pay for all of that.

3719
01:49:21,933 --> 01:49:27,533
and that isot cheap at all.

3720
01:49:26,233 --> 01:49:28,200
and, so, getting those

3721
01:49:27,633 --> 01:49:30,233
different bids and things, I

3722
01:49:28,300 --> 01:49:32,200
just want to make sure it will

3723
01:49:30,333 --> 01:49:34,166
cover pre-existing conditions

3724
01:49:32,300 --> 01:49:35,800
and that people will be able

3725
01:49:34,266 --> 01:49:38,766
to get the help that they need

3726
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:39,766
if they're not eligible to

3727
01:49:38,866 --> 01:49:40,200
take advantage of the lottery

3728
01:49:40,066 --> 01:49:42,400
system.

3729
01:49:40,300 --> 01:49:43,366
we're trying to help as many

3730
01:49:42,700 --> 01:49:44,233
people as we can with the

3731
01:49:43,466 --> 01:49:45,966
grant program with the city,

3732
01:49:44,333 --> 01:49:47,800
but I know that this will give

3733
01:49:46,066 --> 01:49:48,933
other folks some hope, too.

3734
01:49:47,900 --> 01:49:51,733
thank you.

3735
01:49:49,033 --> 01:49:53,100
the end.

3736
01:49:52,233 --> 01:49:53,333
» Next we have council member

3737
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:54,566
shaffer.

3738
01:49:53,433 --> 01:49:55,466
» Thank you, cha chowdhury.

3739
01:49:54,866 --> 01:49:56,433
I have a question.

3740
01:49:55,666 --> 01:49:57,566
thank you very much for this

3741
01:49:57,466 --> 01:49:58,466
work.

3742
01:49:57,666 --> 01:49:59,900
very excited to continue to

3743
01:49:58,566 --> 01:50:03,400
share this with residents.

3744
01:50:00,166 --> 01:50:06,433
is there any opportunity for

3745
01:50:03,733 --> 01:50:08,400
water lateral pipe insurance?

3746
01:50:06,533 --> 01:50:10,500
for water pipes.

3747
01:50:08,933 --> 01:50:12,233
» Cir chowdhury, council

3748
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:14,000
member shaffer, in workingwith y

3749
01:50:12,333 --> 01:50:15,733
don't feel there's a need.

3750
01:50:14,100 --> 01:50:17,333
part of that is a lot of the

3751
01:50:15,933 --> 01:50:18,900
breaks that happen with water

3752
01:50:17,433 --> 01:50:19,766
lines are lead svice lines,

3753
01:50:19,066 --> 01:50:22,900
so they've had funding

3754
01:50:19,866 --> 01:50:23,366
available to replace those for

3755
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:25,300
individuals.

3756
01:50:23,466 --> 01:50:26,433
there probably are some

3757
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,833
extreme cases where other ones

3758
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:30,033
do break.

3759
01:50:27,933 --> 01:50:31,100
but they felt having it

3760
01:50:30,133 --> 01:50:32,066
involved, would be a waste of

3761
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:32,966
money for individuals, that

3762
01:50:32,166 --> 01:50:34,066
they'd be paying for something

3763
01:50:33,066 --> 01:50:35,600
that's not needed.

3764
01:50:34,333 --> 01:50:37,000
» Well, there's a lot of lead

3765
01:50:35,833 --> 01:50:37,533
pipes that are still outn

3766
01:50:37,100 --> 01:50:39,366
our system.

3767
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,466
so I think people would like

3768
01:50:39,466 --> 01:50:42,433
to -- but maybe lead isn't a

3769
01:50:41,566 --> 01:50:44,800
requirement for insurance, it

3770
01:50:42,533 --> 01:50:46,233
has to actually break for

3771
01:50:44,900 --> 01:50:51,266
replacement cost.

3772
01:50:46,333 --> 01:50:52,600
and then can you speak to,

3773
01:50:51,366 --> 01:50:55,833
just briefly, any of the

3774
01:50:52,700 --> 01:50:56,400
condition of the city

3775
01:50:55,933 --> 01:50:57,800
connections?

3776
01:50:56,483 --> 01:50:59,766
I've heard that our city pipes

3777
01:50:57,900 --> 01:51:01,933
are not in great shape.

3778
01:51:00,166 --> 01:51:03,900
is that primarily the sewer?

3779
01:51:02,033 --> 01:51:05,000
is thatrimarily the water?

3780
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:05,900
maybe you're not the right

3781
01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:08,066
person.

3782
01:51:06,500 --> 01:51:09,233
» Chair chowdhury, council

3783
01:51:08,166 --> 01:51:10,233
member shaffer, I can give you

3784
01:51:09,333 --> 01:51:11,100
a general answer.

3785
01:51:10,333 --> 01:51:12,300
we can definitely have a

3786
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:14,533
longer conversation, I think.

3787
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:15,100
but as a division, we do have

3788
01:51:14,633 --> 01:51:15,900
an asset management program

3789
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:17,733
where we're looking at the

3790
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:20,300
health of our system.

3791
01:51:17,833 --> 01:51:21,966
and this is the sewer system.

3792
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:23,833
and we have an active capital

3793
01:51:22,066 --> 01:51:24,500
program to replace the sewer

3794
01:51:23,933 --> 01:51:26,566
line.

3795
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:27,766
so it's something that there's

3796
01:51:26,666 --> 01:51:28,900
nothing to be ignored, we need

3797
01:51:27,866 --> 01:51:29,466
to kee doing t but we

3798
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:29,833
definitely have a plan.

3799
01:51:29,566 --> 01:51:31,466
» Okay.

3800
01:51:29,933 --> 01:51:33,766
all right.

3801
01:51:31,566 --> 01:51:35,533
now that we have all the --

3802
01:51:33,866 --> 01:51:36,500
all the laterals get replaced,

3803
01:51:35,666 --> 01:51:37,266
we don't want to have a major

3804
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:38,466
with the main.

3805
01:51:37,366 --> 01:51:39,766
but thank you for your work on

3806
01:51:38,633 --> 01:51:41,200
this, it's exciting.

3807
01:51:39,866 --> 01:51:42,833
» Thank you.

3808
01:51:41,300 --> 01:51:43,200
and next we'll go to council

3809
01:51:42,933 --> 01:51:45,066
member whiting.

3810
01:51:43,766 --> 01:51:45,700
» Yeah, sorry, council membe

3811
01:51:45,166 --> 01:51:46,900
shaffer, the same question

3812
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,500
that I asked as well about the

3813
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,333
water lines, and it's my

3814
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:52,166
understanding that it's kind

3815
01:51:49,366 --> 01:51:53,833
of an add-on project.so it's noe

3816
01:51:52,266 --> 01:51:56,733
city's endorsement, but it is

3817
01:51:53,933 --> 01:51:58,966
something that you can add on

3818
01:51:56,833 --> 01:52:00,466
as part of your packa, but

3819
01:51:59,466 --> 01:52:02,466
it wouldn't be under the

3820
01:52:00,566 --> 01:52:05,166
city's kind of endorsement of.

3821
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:07,000
so it's a program that you can s

3822
01:52:05,266 --> 01:52:08,566
individuals, go on right now

3823
01:52:07,233 --> 01:52:08,866
and purchase those insurances.

3824
01:52:08,666 --> 01:52:10,066
yeah.

3825
01:52:08,966 --> 01:52:11,966
and then the las kind of

3826
01:52:10,166 --> 01:52:12,700
question he, maybe for the

3827
01:52:12,066 --> 01:52:17,466
city attorney's office, I've

3828
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:18,500
never done a no cost contract

3829
01:52:17,566 --> 01:52:21,933
before, acceptance.

3830
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:23,700
will this come back to us?

3831
01:52:22,033 --> 01:52:25,133
since it is under the

3832
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:26,433
threshold of council

3833
01:52:25,500 --> 01:52:31,366
authorization, does it not

3834
01:52:26,533 --> 01:52:33,266
come back before the body?

3835
01:52:31,700 --> 01:52:34,400
» I don't know if you have --

3836
01:52:33,366 --> 01:52:35,900
generally speaking, because

3837
01:52:34,500 --> 01:52:37,000
it's a nonstandard contract

3838
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:38,316
form,ven though the's no

3839
01:52:37,233 --> 01:52:39,600
cost, it would come back to

3840
01:52:38,433 --> 01:52:41,566
the council because it's not

3841
01:52:40,533 --> 01:52:44,200
on a standard template.

3842
01:52:41,966 --> 01:52:45,166
so this council action is to

3843
01:52:44,300 --> 01:52:47,800
authorize -- enter into t

3844
01:52:45,266 --> 01:52:49,100
contract and then once I --

3845
01:52:47,900 --> 01:52:51,933
I'll defer to kind of t

3846
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,466
timeline, but then it would

3847
01:52:52,033 --> 01:52:53,233
come back to approve the

3848
01:52:52,566 --> 01:52:55,666
contract itself.

3849
01:52:53,866 --> 01:52:56,633
» Chair chowdhury, council

3850
01:52:55,766 --> 01:52:57,100
member whiting, yes, that's my

3851
01:52:56,733 --> 01:52:59,366
understanding as well.

3852
01:52:57,633 --> 01:53:00,900
we started this process, do we

3853
01:52:59,466 --> 01:53:01,966
even need to do the rfp?

3854
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,033
asked the question.

3855
01:53:02,066 --> 01:53:04,466
yup, it's nonstandard, we're

3856
01:53:03,133 --> 01:53:05,800
going to be endorsing, pigging

3857
01:53:04,866 --> 01:53:06,800
a company over other ones,

3858
01:53:05,900 --> 01:53:07,633
yeah, we'll go through the

3859
01:53:06,900 --> 01:53:08,266
process, yeah, come back with

3860
01:53:07,733 --> 01:53:09,366
the contract, yeah.

3861
01:53:08,366 --> 01:53:09,900
» Thank you so much.

3862
01:53:09,566 --> 01:53:11,700
» Thank you.

3863
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:13,200
I just had a quick question.

3864
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:13,933
what would be the rate if we

3865
01:53:13,300 --> 01:53:14,833
didn't endorse this?

3866
01:53:14,033 --> 01:53:15,800
do you know what t

3867
01:53:14,933 --> 01:53:17,000
comparable is?

3868
01:53:15,900 --> 01:53:20,933
and how much we're saving with

3869
01:53:17,100 --> 01:53:22,566
the endorsement for folks?

3870
01:53:21,533 --> 01:53:23,700
» Chair chowdhury, I'm

3871
01:53:22,666 --> 01:53:26,200
association I don't know the

3872
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:28,133
exact what it would be.

3873
01:53:26,300 --> 01:53:30,100
I do know competing companies,

3874
01:53:28,233 --> 01:53:32,733
they might have a similar

3875
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:33,833
monthly rate, but their

3876
01:53:32,833 --> 01:53:34,500
coverage limit's 12,000.

3877
01:53:34,233 --> 01:53:35,333
» Um-hum.

3878
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:36,300
and this is unlimited.

3879
01:53:35,966 --> 01:53:36,866
» Unlimited, yes.

3880
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:37,866
» Okay.

3881
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:38,200
that's great.

3882
01:53:37,966 --> 01:53:38,933
okay.

3883
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:40,033
that's the only question that

3884
01:53:39,033 --> 01:53:42,633
I had.

3885
01:53:40,133 --> 01:53:45,033
member is there anyone else

3886
01:53:42,733 --> 01:53:46,800
in queue?

3887
01:53:45,133 --> 01:53:49,733
seeing no one else in queue,

3888
01:53:46,900 --> 01:53:51,566
can I ask for a motion?

3889
01:53:49,833 --> 01:53:53,366
oh, sorry, council member

3890
01:53:51,666 --> 01:53:54,133
warren, didn't see you there.go.

3891
01:53:53,466 --> 01:53:56,866
» Thank you.

3892
01:53:54,233 --> 01:53:58,800
you said it was for unlimited

3893
01:53:57,300 --> 01:54:01,633
amnt of repairs and stuff?

3894
01:53:58,900 --> 01:54:05,166
but typically if a sewage line

3895
01:54:01,833 --> 01:54:07,433
is sleeved and it's repaired,

3896
01:54:05,266 --> 01:54:08,933
after, you know, you get that

3897
01:54:07,533 --> 01:54:11,566
casting put in there, because

3898
01:54:09,233 --> 01:54:13,433
I got mine sleed, and then

3899
01:54:11,666 --> 01:54:17,233
it's under warranty for the

3900
01:54:13,533 --> 01:54:19,633
next 25 to 30 years, like you

3901
01:54:17,333 --> 01:54:23,800
wouldn't need the insurance to

3902
01:54:19,733 --> 01:54:26,100
continue to pay it anymore.

3903
01:54:23,900 --> 01:54:27,633
see, I'm worried about this.

3904
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,800
because you said it will cover

3905
01:54:27,733 --> 01:54:30,566
the pre-existing conditions

3906
01:54:28,900 --> 01:54:32,000
and then you're saying,

3907
01:54:30,666 --> 01:54:33,833
unlimited numbe of repairs.

3908
01:54:32,100 --> 01:54:35,600
but once you get your line

3909
01:54:33,933 --> 01:54:37,666
sleeved or you get the line

3910
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:39,766
replaced, then the line would

3911
01:54:38,100 --> 01:54:41,833
then be underneath the service

3912
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:43,133
rranty of whomever replaced

3913
01:54:41,933 --> 01:54:44,500
the line and did the stuff, so

3914
01:54:43,233 --> 01:54:46,833
then you wouldn't necessarily

3915
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:48,366
need to keep paying the

3916
01:54:47,033 --> 01:54:50,333
premium for insurance.

3917
01:54:48,866 --> 01:54:52,200
» Chair chowdhury, council

3918
01:54:50,433 --> 01:54:53,600
member warren, in some of the

3919
01:54:52,300 --> 01:54:56,133
situations, they're not going

3920
01:54:55,433 --> 01:54:56,533
to replace it just off the

3921
01:54:56,233 --> 01:54:58,366
bat.

3922
01:54:56,616 --> 01:54:59,800
you know, they' going to try

3923
01:54:58,466 --> 01:55:00,233
and re-establish the flow of

3924
01:54:59,900 --> 01:55:02,233
the line.

3925
01:55:01,066 --> 01:55:02,433
» Correct.>> take the roots ouf

3926
01:55:02,333 --> 01:55:03,600
there.

3927
01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:04,600
» And that's with the

3928
01:55:03,700 --> 01:55:06,000
sleeving.

3929
01:55:04,700 --> 01:55:08,300
and even with the sleeving,

3930
01:55:06,100 --> 01:55:11,033
sleeving has about a 25-year

3931
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:12,666
warranty on the sleeving of a

3932
01:55:11,133 --> 01:55:16,533
line.

3933
01:55:12,766 --> 01:55:19,633
so, they jet it out with over

3934
01:55:16,633 --> 01:55:21,500
400 or 500 psi of water, clean

3935
01:55:19,733 --> 01:55:22,933
out, then they're going to run

3936
01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,433
that sleeve through there,

3937
01:55:23,033 --> 01:55:24,800
then they're going to curate

3938
01:55:24,533 --> 01:55:26,633
it.

3939
01:55:24,900 --> 01:55:28,200
it's essentially like a whole

3940
01:55:26,733 --> 01:55:29,166
new pipe that is then put

3941
01:55:28,300 --> 01:55:31,300
through the sewage line.

3942
01:55:29,366 --> 01:55:32,166
I know, I watched the whole

3943
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:33,066
process with the camera, it

3944
01:55:32,266 --> 01:55:34,600
was slick as I don't know

3945
01:55:33,166 --> 01:55:40,733
what, I'm telling you.

3946
01:55:34,700 --> 01:55:43,900
but now I'm under the warranty

3947
01:55:41,033 --> 01:55:46,200
of the company that put my --

3948
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:49,466
so they gave me a warranty

3949
01:55:46,633 --> 01:55:52,066
that's good for 25 years.

3950
01:55:49,666 --> 01:55:54,366
so if I had an insurance, why

3951
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:55,500
would I continue t pay the

3952
01:55:54,466 --> 01:56:00,633
premium because all of those

3953
01:55:55,600 --> 01:56:01,900
lines, cleanout included, are

3954
01:56:00,733 --> 01:56:03,233
allun through the same

3955
01:56:01,983 --> 01:56:05,533
sewage system, essentially,

3956
01:56:03,333 --> 01:56:06,533
unless this is covering the

3957
01:56:05,633 --> 01:56:07,566
stacking in the inside of a

3958
01:56:06,633 --> 01:56:09,800
home, the main stack.

3959
01:56:07,666 --> 01:56:10,516
no, this is just for the

3960
01:56:09,900 --> 01:56:11,633
lateral lines exterior to the

3961
01:56:10,633 --> 01:56:12,033
home, correct?

3962
01:56:11,833 --> 01:56:13,466
» Correct.

3963
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,333
» Okay.

3964
01:56:13,766 --> 01:56:16,566
» Cir chowdhury, council

3965
01:56:15,433 --> 01:56:18,633
member warren, you're right.

3966
01:56:16,666 --> 01:56:18,933
as a homeowner, it's 100%

3967
01:56:18,733 --> 01:56:20,900
optional.

3968
01:56:19,033 --> 01:56:22,133
so if you just had it fixed,

3969
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:23,700
you don't nee anymore.

3970
01:56:22,266 --> 01:56:24,466
so you don't have to keep --

3971
01:56:23,900 --> 01:56:26,766
» Right.

3972
01:56:25,633 --> 01:56:27,133
» You cancel it, you stop

3973
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,400
paying.

3974
01:56:27,700 --> 01:56:30,700
» All these dollars and stuff

3975
01:56:29,500 --> 01:56:31,700
could go towards some eggs,

3976
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:32,900
okay, ank you.

3977
01:56:31,966 --> 01:56:33,566
» Yup.

3978
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:34,000
thank you.

3979
01:56:33,666 --> 01:56:35,100
yeah.

3980
01:56:34,100 --> 01:56:37,400
it looks like on the website

3981
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:38,833
there's a pretty clear spot

3982
01:56:37,500 --> 01:56:41,766
for program cancellation,

3983
01:56:39,033 --> 01:56:43,533
which is really helpful.

3984
01:56:41,866 --> 01:56:44,966
members, I'm not seeing anyone

3985
01:56:43,633 --> 01:56:46,833
else in queue, so is there a

3986
01:56:45,066 --> 01:56:47,600
motion for this item?

3987
01:56:47,033 --> 01:56:48,600
» So moved.

3988
01:56:48,233 --> 01:56:49,366
» Second.

3989
01:56:48,766 --> 01:56:52,933
» Excellent.

3990
01:56:49,466 --> 01:56:53,966
all those in favor say aye.

3991
01:56:53,033 --> 01:56:55,133
that motion -- all those

3992
01:56:54,066 --> 01:56:56,866
opposed say nay.

3993
01:56:55,333 --> 01:56:58,666
that motion carries.

3994
01:56:56,966 --> 01:56:59,233
and thank you for the

3995
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:00,133
presentation.

3996
01:56:59,333 --> 01:57:01,366
and seeing no further business

3997
01:57:00,233 --> 01:57:02,466
before us, and with no

3998
01:57:01,466 --> 01:57:15,083
objection, I will declare this

3999
01:57:02,566 --> 01:57:15,083
meeting adjourned.