[0:11] >> Okay.
[0:11] Good evening.
[0:12] It is August 25th.
[0:13] 2026.
[0:14] I would like to call to order the meeting of the Mission Viejo
[0:18] City Council.
[0:21] Community development agency with the Housing Authority,
[0:26] and the library Board of Trustees.
[0:27] We're going to take a verbal roll call
[0:30] and we'll be doing verbal votes tonight as well.
[0:33] With Council Member Reese being remote.
[0:36] And participating via Zoom.
[0:38] Council member Kelly is running a bit late.
[0:42] She will join us directly in closed session.
[0:59] [Roll call]
[1:09] Mr. City attorney, are there any items for closed session
[1:14] tonight, that you would please share with us?
[1:18] >> Yes, madam mayor, we have three items on closed session
[1:21] calendar period the first item is conference with legal
[1:23] counsel, existing litigation and that is under government code
[1:28] section 54956.9 subsection D subsection one.
[1:33] The existing litigation.
[1:35] The second item is legal Counsel.
[1:39] One case under the same government code
[1:42] subsection D code.
[1:44] Potential litigation period the third item
[1:47] is the annual Public Performance Evaluation.
[1:49] Under Government Code section 54957 B one.
[1:54] Titled the employee is the Assistant City Manager.
[1:58] And that is our closed session for this evening.
[2:01] >> Thank you very much.
[2:02] We will go ahead and adjourn and -- not adjourn.
[2:06] But recess to close session and return at 6 p.m.
[2:09] Or shortly thereafter.
[2:12] See you soon.
[1:01:02] [Waiting for Host to Start Meeting]
[1:04:11] [NO AUDIO]
[1:06:25] >> Let's talk about some of the things we've done.
[1:06:28] First off I'll mention we have a vision statement from our team.
[1:06:32] To promote our local economy by positioning mission
[1:06:36] video as a premier destination to experience
[1:06:38] and participate in athletic events.
[1:06:40] Our mission statement, we are dedicated to providing
[1:06:44] world class sporting events, venues, and training
[1:06:47] opportunities to inspire youth.
[1:06:49] Increase local business revenues and elevate our profile
[1:06:52] as a sports Mecca and hub for sports and events tourism.
[1:06:57] I think we're doing a good job of meeting those goals.
[1:07:03] Okay, to date --
[1:07:06] I'm going to read this before we get our proclamations here.
[1:07:12] Our confirmed countries in contract, many of these teams
[1:07:16] have started training here in Mission Viejo, in fact.
[1:07:20] The Australian para swim team was in the pool today.
[1:07:25] And they have been for the last week.
[1:07:28] Doing a great job over there.
[1:07:31] Their training for the Pacific Games.
[1:07:35] Which are happening in walnut next week.
[1:07:40] And so here we have the Dutch National Olympic and Paralympic
[1:07:47] teams.
[1:07:48] Committees have already started coming and training.
[1:07:50] The track and field came before the World Cup.
[1:07:54] About two weeks ago.
[1:07:55] They trained at Saddleback College.
[1:07:57] Stayed at one of our hotels.
[1:08:00] The Australian Dive and Paris Swim Federation.
[1:08:05] The British Swim Federation.
[1:08:06] The Canadian Dive Federation.
[1:08:08] The French Dive Federation.
[1:08:09] The German Federation.
[1:08:11] The Japan Dive Swim Federation.
[1:08:14] The New Zealand Swim Federation was here a week ago.
[1:08:17] The Polish Swim Federation and para weightlifting.
[1:08:21] Our USA diving team is also going
[1:08:24] to be doing their training here.
[1:08:27] In 2028.
[1:08:29] Those are all big successes.
[1:08:35] Good job you guys.
[1:08:46] We keep getting more inquiries.
[1:08:50] The program is working very well and creating a lot of success.
[1:08:56] So far some of those successes include $1 million commitment
[1:08:59] from the Dutch.
[1:09:01] Which I've already submitted $300,000 to the city to help
[1:09:05] cover all the expenses while they're here.
[1:09:08] Including hotels. $100,000 from Supervisor Wagner's office.
[1:09:15] Our Orange County Board of Supervisors
[1:09:19] knows what we're doing and we ask them to help us
[1:09:22] with discretionary funds.
[1:09:23] And we got a $100,000 grant.
[1:09:28] Supervisor Wagner gave that check to our mayor
[1:09:30] at the symphony last week.
[1:09:32] That was awesome.
[1:09:33] Then the Dutch athletic team, just their last one week visit.
[1:09:41] We calculated $44,000 into our local economy for one week visit
[1:09:46] from that team.
[1:09:47] That's the type of economic tourism we're talking about.
[1:09:51] People coming here spending money here.
[1:09:55] Anyhow, we have other community engagement opportunities
[1:09:58] we're looking ahead towards.
[1:10:00] We have submitted applications of interest
[1:10:02] in hosting several of these.
[1:10:05] Including we volunteered our city for the Olympic Torch Run.
[1:10:09] That'll be fun. (laughs) I got to carry the torch once in 1996.
[1:10:17] In Cabo Beach.
[1:10:19] That was amazing.
[1:10:20] The cauldron event where the torch ends and starts
[1:10:22] along the route.
[1:10:23] The Cultural Olympiad.
[1:10:25] And official viewing fan zone, here
[1:10:30] in Mission Viejo for the Olympics.
[1:10:32] We are working on all of those so everyone
[1:10:34] should be very excited about what's
[1:10:36] going to happen over the next two years.
[1:10:38] As the Olympics get closer and closer.
[1:10:42] And we also plan to have several meet the athlete events where
[1:10:46] the public can come and meet these athletes.
[1:10:48] Especially our kids can come and see them and watch them
[1:10:52] and learn about the commitment level
[1:10:55] that it takes to be an Olympic athlete.
[1:10:58] It's a city wide effort and we couldn't have done it
[1:11:02] without our great partners.
[1:11:03] I've got some proclamations here for some of them
[1:11:06] that have helped Us.
[1:11:07] And this one -- okay, you read it.
[1:11:20] >> Okay.
[1:11:22] It says commemorating the contributions of the community
[1:11:26] to the American story during the semiquincentennial anniversary
[1:11:30] of the United States.
[1:11:31] Whereas on July 4th 1776, the United States of America was
[1:11:37] founded on the bold ideas and enduring convictions of liberty
[1:11:39] common justice and the pursuit of happiness,
[1:11:42] that continue to guide our Republic.
[1:11:45] Whereas our nation has approached its 250th anniversary
[1:11:48] in 2026, known as the Semiquincentennial or American
[1:11:53] 250, communities are encouraged to reflect on our history.
[1:11:57] Honor all Americans contributions
[1:11:59] and look to the future.
[1:12:00] Mission Viejo is renowned for distinguished Olympic history.
[1:12:04] From hosting cycling races in 84, to the torch
[1:12:08] that emblazons the city seal, to being
[1:12:11] a longtime home and training ground for Olympians.
[1:12:14] Hosting high performing athletes builds a strong community,
[1:12:19] encourages tourism and community partners
[1:12:22] are essential to building and uplifting a strong community
[1:12:25] fabric.
[1:12:26] Fostering community engagement.
[1:12:27] Sense of civic pride among residents.
[1:12:30] Playing a crucial role in supporting local efforts
[1:12:32] for the betterment of the community
[1:12:34] and offering unique experiences for our residents.
[1:12:37] The Mission Viejo Sports and Events Committee
[1:12:39] is a collaborative group of community partners dedicated
[1:12:43] to attracting major athletic and special events
[1:12:47] that boost local businesses.
[1:12:50] Showcase the city's world class facilities.
[1:12:54] And create engagement opportunities for residents.
[1:12:57] Through coordinated efforts with schools, colleges,
[1:13:01] local organizations and sports leaders,
[1:13:03] the committee has been successful in welcoming
[1:13:06] multiple International Olympic teams to conduct
[1:13:10] pre-game training ahead of the LA 28 Olympics and Global
[1:13:17] Championship events.
[1:13:18] This growing momentum reinforces the city's role
[1:13:22] as a vibrant hub for international sports
[1:13:24] and community pride.
[1:13:26] I therefore, by the authority vested in me
[1:13:30] as the mayor of the city of Mission Viejo
[1:13:33] and on behalf of the City Council,
[1:13:35] do hereby recognize the contributions of the Mission
[1:13:38] Viejo Sports and Events Committee,
[1:13:39] which is made up of many people which we are going to mention
[1:13:43] here in just a minute.
[1:13:44] Brian, you led the way.
[1:13:46] This was your vision that started a long time ago along
[1:13:49] with other people.
[1:13:50] It takes somebody that wore that gold medal, has the passion,
[1:13:55] and frankly put Mission Viejo on the map in the 76 Olympics.
[1:14:00] To really carry that out.
[1:14:02] That's you.
[1:14:03] So this is for you.
[1:14:04] Thank you so much.
[1:14:06] I'm going to let you read.
[1:14:09] It's the same proclamation.
[1:14:12] I'm going to have you start reading here.
[1:14:15] This one is for the Saddleback College.
[1:14:21] And it should be given to Doctor Lynn Anderson.
[1:14:26] I'm sorry.
[1:14:28] You have the video to run first.
[1:14:34] >> That's right.
[1:14:35] We forgot to introduce the video.
[1:14:36] Got carried away.
[1:14:37] Couldn't wait to get the proclamations.
[1:14:41] >> Okay, we have a short video here.
[1:14:43] Please turn your attention to the viewing screen.
[1:14:48] >> In preparation for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles,
[1:14:51] the city of Mission Viejo is hosting members
[1:14:55] of the Netherlands Olympic team who will be training at various
[1:14:58] facilities throughout the city.
[1:14:59] Today the Dutch U20 national team
[1:15:02] is training right here at Saddleback College.
[1:15:13] >> It really is awesome.
[1:15:14] We experienced it this week.
[1:15:16] Our track and field team.
[1:15:17] Our junior team.
[1:15:18] They were the first ones that came here and experienced
[1:15:20] the really lovely facilities that you have here.
[1:15:24] It really has been a very good first experience.
[1:15:27] But we already knew.
[1:15:28] We've been here for two years.
[1:15:30] We visited the town.
[1:15:31] We met the people.
[1:15:34] So, yes, we feel very honored that we
[1:15:37] can be part of the Olympic preparations
[1:15:39] here at Mission Viejo.
[1:15:42] >> It's been a great week.
[1:15:44] Super facilities.
[1:15:46] Super friendly people welcoming us.
[1:15:48] Making us feel at home.
[1:15:50] But also, and we have different standards than the college has.
[1:15:56] Anything we want, they make happen for us.
[1:16:00] We feel really welcome.
[1:16:03] >> A multi-year partnership with team NL had been in negotiation
[1:16:06] for several years.
[1:16:08] Now the city and its residents will not only
[1:16:11] gain the novelty of hosting an Olympic team
[1:16:14] but also the benefits of the team using the city's facilities
[1:16:17] and working with local businesses.
[1:16:21] >> Being successful in a league sport,
[1:16:23] a big part of it is prepare yourself.
[1:16:26] Don't be surprised by the circumstances.
[1:16:28] That's what we did two years ago.
[1:16:31] We came here with some of our colleagues.
[1:16:33] We visited half of California.
[1:16:36] We came here and we added up all the pluses and minuses
[1:16:40] and in the end we were very convinced
[1:16:43] that Mission Viejo, Orange County, that
[1:16:46] has to be a place where we prepare for the Olympics
[1:16:50] and Paralympics.
[1:16:53] >> For sure.
[1:16:54] It's an amazing opportunity, not only for the city,
[1:16:57] but for Saddleback College as well.
[1:16:59] We have amazing facilities.
[1:17:00] Amazing staff and employees that are looking forward
[1:17:03] to this partnership.
[1:17:04] I think for us specifically, we take great care of our facility.
[1:17:10] Being able to highlight what we do,
[1:17:13] the showcase is just wonderful and for the team Netherlands,
[1:17:17] we're just hoping for their success.
[1:17:18] Their success is our success in a way.
[1:17:21] We'll be watching very closely and looking for other ways
[1:17:23] to partner and see how we can support.
[1:17:25] >> We have spent a lot of time the last couple of years knowing
[1:17:28] full well that this was going to come to fruition.
[1:17:31] The businesses are really excited.
[1:17:33] We're really concentrating on the restaurants.
[1:17:35] We know a lot of trainees are coming
[1:17:39] and they're looking for food.
[1:17:41] We're setting up a conduit so they can understand where they
[1:17:45] can access really good food.
[1:17:49] >> Mission Viejo has had a proud history with the Olympics,
[1:17:51] dating back to the 1984 Olympic Games.
[1:17:55] When the city hosted the men's and women's cycling rotaries.
[1:17:59] And
[1:18:00] >> Something that our residents have talked about for many
[1:18:03] years, remember 84, well now they're going to say remember
[1:18:07] 28.
[1:18:07] And that's the exciting.
[1:18:12] The Olympic movement will once again
[1:18:16] be back here in Mission Viejo.
[1:18:19] >> The way we envision Mission Viejo as we were approaching,
[1:18:26] we saw that we needed to invest in our facilities and we did
[1:18:29] that many years ago.
[1:18:30] As has Saddleback College.
[1:18:33] As have our high schools.
[1:18:35] As have many of our businesses.
[1:18:37] And that is a situation where if you build it and you are
[1:18:40] prepared, they will come.
[1:18:42] That is exactly what happened.
[1:18:44] We are so proud that we were forward thinking.
[1:18:48] Not even myself, but those before us
[1:18:51] who had the vision for what Mission Viejo is and we
[1:18:55] stayed on that.
[1:18:56] We are an Olympic city and we have a sports economy that we're
[1:19:02] embracing and building upon.
[1:19:04] The world is seeing that and it's
[1:19:07] being showcased to the world and we're just
[1:19:09] so proud of the partnership with Saddleback.
[1:19:11] Our school districts, our businesses in the city.
[1:19:15] The Olympic exposure reaches beyond the facilities
[1:19:18] and local businesses.
[1:19:19] It also connects with the students here in Mission Viejo
[1:19:22] as well.
[1:19:27] >> It's very exciting that kids will be able to see Olympic
[1:19:30] athletes and be able to see what's going on.
[1:19:34] It's also a huge community spirit builder because we all
[1:19:39] come together and we're able to see this and build
[1:19:43] on our Olympic Foundation.
[1:19:45] Our Olympic history and heritage.
[1:19:48] It's very exciting.
[1:19:52] >> We're so proud to be part of this partnership with the City
[1:19:55] of Mission Viejo and to provide our students with an opportunity
[1:19:59] to meet with Olympic athletes and train alongside them.
[1:20:03] Really see if they dedicate themselves to their sport
[1:20:06] and really dedicate and have the discipline
[1:20:09] to continue to succeed for their.
[1:20:12] What they could truly accomplish if that was something
[1:20:14] they wanted to be able to do.
[1:20:17] >> You, Saddleback does a really great job with partnering with
[1:20:20] our local high schools.
[1:20:21] And so what a great way to advertise it.
[1:20:25] Really promote what we do here at Saddleback
[1:20:27] for students who may want to come here in the future.
[1:20:30] Athletes as well as those pursuing academics.
[1:20:34] For our student population that are here now,
[1:20:37] I think they were already proud to be a Saddleback student,
[1:20:40] but this is going to take it to the next level.
[1:20:43] What a thing to brag about to your family and friends.
[1:20:45] I'm excited for the students that are coming in to say,
[1:20:48] we're going to be attending a school where
[1:20:51] we hosted the Olympics.
[1:20:53] I think just positivity all around.
[1:20:58] >> With world class facilities and beautiful weather,
[1:21:01] we're hoping Team Netherlands enjoys their time in training
[1:21:04] right here in the city of Mission Viejo as they prepare
[1:21:07] for the 2028 Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
[1:21:10] Reporting for Mvtv news, I'm Garth Wyckoff.
[1:21:21] >> High.
[1:21:22] I'm fire captain and I owe.
[1:21:23] Welcome to the U.S. Quarterly size up.
[1:21:27] >> Oh, that's the next one.
[1:21:31] Doctor Cordova and Sean Revell from Saddleback College,
[1:21:36] will you please join us up here?
[1:21:39] Our new president from Saddleback College.
[1:21:44] Doctor Cordova.
[1:21:49] Sean's been a member of our committee for several years.
[1:21:54] Six years already, wow.
[1:21:57] He handles all of the nuts and bolts .
[1:22:02] The negotiation and contracting for all the facilities
[1:22:05] at Saddleback.
[1:22:07] It's quite an intricate process.
[1:22:10] We need a picture.
[1:22:12] Okay here come on let's hold that.
[1:22:20] >> I'm going to read a little bit of this.
[1:22:22] You heard most of it already.
[1:22:24] Where at Saddleback College is home to world class athlete
[1:22:29] facilities, including premier stadium, track,
[1:22:32] and the newly developed throwers park,
[1:22:36] making it one of Southern California's strongest training
[1:22:38] environments for elite athletes.
[1:22:40] These top tier venues were a major factor
[1:22:42] in team NHL's decision to select Mission Viejo as its official LA
[1:22:48] 28 Pre-games training base.
[1:22:50] Most recently team (indiscernible).
[1:22:57] As they prepared for the U20 World Championships.
[1:23:01] The college's high performance infrastructure
[1:23:03] continues to position Mission Viejo
[1:23:06] as a trusted home for International Olympic
[1:23:09] preparation.
[1:23:10] And now I, Wendy Buchman, by virtue of the authority vested
[1:23:17] in me, on behalf of Wendy Buckner, the mayor of Mission
[1:23:21] Viejo, and on behalf of the City Council,
[1:23:24] I hereby recognize the contributions
[1:23:26] of Saddleback College in the community.
[1:23:29] Thank you so much.
[1:23:35] We'll get everybody up here and we'll do a group photo.
[1:23:41] So Next, is Alicia.
[1:23:44] Here for our principal from Tribeca Hill.
[1:23:51] Okay.
[1:23:54] All right.
[1:23:56] So also Trabuco Hills High School has great facilities
[1:24:00] and they have bent over backwards accommodating people
[1:24:05] who show up and all of a sudden say hey,
[1:24:08] can we get a workout in?
[1:24:10] Can we do weights today?
[1:24:18] Whereas Trabuco Hills High School in the Saddleback Valley
[1:24:24] Unified School District offer excellent athletic facilities,
[1:24:27] including a high quality track and well-equipped weight room,
[1:24:31] that have become trusted training sites
[1:24:33] for elite international teams.
[1:24:35] Their flexibility, hospitality, and genuine excitement
[1:24:39] and welcoming Olympic athletes created red carpet experiences
[1:24:45] that strongly influenced team Ls's decision.
[1:24:48] I think you guys get the rest of it.
[1:24:52] So we'll just --
[1:25:01] Okay next, our great partners at the Mission Viejo Nadadores.
[1:25:15] And where is the Margarita aquatic complex, home
[1:25:19] of the renowned Mission Viejo Nadadores,
[1:25:21] is one of the nation's premier aquatic venues
[1:25:24] and a centerpiece of the city's international sports reputation,
[1:25:27] the Nadadores have played an invaluable role
[1:25:30] in helping the city recruit and welcome high performance
[1:25:34] teams from around the world.
[1:25:36] Most recently hosting delegations
[1:25:38] from Japan, Argentina, Great Britain, and Australia.
[1:25:42] Their deep expertise in working with Olympic level athletes,
[1:25:47] combined with their flexibility, enthusiasm,
[1:25:49] and collaborative spirit, has made the complex a trusted
[1:25:53] training site for global teams.
[1:25:54] This partnership showcases what Mission Viejo
[1:25:57] can achieve through thoughtful planning, community pride,
[1:26:01] and world class facilities.
[1:26:10] We have director of Chamber of Commerce, Doug Zelasko.
[1:26:16] Come on up, Doug.
[1:26:21] Whereas the Mission Viejo Chamber of Commerce
[1:26:25] plays a key role in strengthening
[1:26:26] the connection between local businesses
[1:26:28] and the city's growing sports tourism
[1:26:31] efforts, as an active member of the tourism Committee
[1:26:35] the chamber has helped mobilize and engage the business
[1:26:37] community around mission Viejo's La 28 Pre-games Training
[1:26:42] Initiative.
[1:26:42] Their involvement ensures that local shops restaurants,
[1:26:45] and service providers, benefit from the influx
[1:26:48] of international teams while contributing
[1:26:50] to a welcoming community wide experience.
[1:26:53] This partnership highlights how coordinated civic and business
[1:26:57] engagement can elevate Mission Viejo profile
[1:26:59] on the global sports stage.
[1:27:08] And supervisor Don Wagner's office,
[1:27:12] we have our field representative,
[1:27:14] and one of our commissioners.
[1:27:18] Whereas OC supervisor, Orange County Supervisor Don Wagner has
[1:27:23] been a key partner in advancing Mission Viejo sports and events
[1:27:27] tourism efforts, offering leadership and support that
[1:27:30] strengthens the city's ability to host world class athletic
[1:27:34] programs his office $100,000 contribution provides essential
[1:27:39] resources to ensure Mission Viejo can deliver high quality
[1:27:42] training venues, reliable transportation,
[1:27:45] and meaningful community engagement opportunities as part
[1:27:48] of the LA 28 Pre-games training initiative.
[1:27:51] This investment helps prepare the greater Mission Viejo
[1:27:55] area to welcome international teams with excellence
[1:27:58] and professionalism.
[1:27:59] Supervisor Wagner's involvement underscores the commitment
[1:28:02] to elevating Mission Viejo as a premier Olympic training
[1:28:06] destination.
[1:28:25] Whereas Capistrano Unified School district,
[1:28:28] led by Capo Valley High School offers
[1:28:31] strong athletic facilities that have become
[1:28:33] an important part of Mission Viejo growing sports tourism
[1:28:37] network, the district's openness,
[1:28:39] flexibility, and team oriented approach,
[1:28:41] have offered to make their venues readily
[1:28:44] available for international training
[1:28:45] and they're eager to connect their students with visiting
[1:28:48] high performance athletes.
[1:28:50] This collaborative spirit played a meaningful role in team
[1:28:53] NZ's decision to select Mission Viejo as its 2028 Pre-games
[1:28:57] training base.
[1:28:58] Their partnership demonstrates how shared community enthusiasm
[1:29:01] can help elevate the city as a global training destination.
[1:29:11] Last but not least, Lake mission Viejo, Andrew Cuomo.
[1:29:21] Whereas Lake mission Viejo has quickly
[1:29:25] become one of the most sought after training venues
[1:29:28] for international teams preparing for the LA 28 games,
[1:29:31] thanks to its scenic environment,
[1:29:33] versatile waterfront facilities, and exceptional hospitality,
[1:29:36] the red carpet treatment has made
[1:29:39] visiting National Olympic Committees feel at home.
[1:29:42] Confident that the lake can support high performance
[1:29:45] training needs.
[1:29:46] The lake Association's partnership is invaluable.
[1:29:49] This summer alone, they welcome teams
[1:29:53] from team in L, the Netherlands, Slovakia, and other National
[1:30:01] Olympic committees, exploring mission Viejo
[1:30:03] at their pre-game base.
[1:30:07] Strengthened Mission Viejo's appeal
[1:30:09] as a premier international training hub.
[1:30:12] So they're looking in many cases at the canoeing and kayaking
[1:30:17] in the lake as a training base.
[1:30:21] And the concerts ain't bad either.
[1:30:30] We're going to do a group photo with this group.
[1:30:48] Okay.
[1:31:27] I noticed that we didn't have some of our other partners that
[1:31:32] have been -- that made a major contribution.
[1:31:35] I just wanted to mention briefly,
[1:31:37] and that would be the hotels here in town.
[1:31:39] The hotels have really gone out of their way
[1:31:41] to make it very hospitable, a very hospitable environment
[1:31:47] for visitors.
[1:31:48] And have rolled out the red carpet in a way
[1:31:51] we've never seen before.
[1:31:53] We're very thankful.
[1:31:54] We only have a couple, three hotels in town.
[1:31:59] But they've gone way out of their way
[1:32:03] to make this a very successful initiative.
[1:32:06] So thank you, everyone.
[1:32:22] >> Now you know why we're wearing the orange shirts.
[1:32:24] Okay.
[1:32:27] Next we have public comments.
[1:32:30] Persons wishing to address the Council on City business
[1:32:34] that is not listed on the agenda must do so at this time.
[1:32:38] Members of the public who are present in chamber
[1:32:40] and wish to speak should see the City Clerk now.
[1:32:44] For those joining us remotely by Zoom or call in, please use
[1:32:48] the raise hand function to be added to the speaker queue.
[1:32:52] Those wishing to address the Council on any item that
[1:32:55] is listed on the agenda should request
[1:32:57] to speak before the item is called.
[1:33:00] Once the public comment period is closed,
[1:33:02] no additional speakers are permitted in the queue.
[1:33:05] Each speaker may be allotted three minutes.
[1:33:08] When called, please state your name and the city of residence.
[1:33:12] We will start with our in-person speakers
[1:33:14] and move to remote speakers.
[1:33:18] When Madam Clerk is ready, please
[1:33:22] state the number of the public comments we have tonight.
[1:33:26] >> We have received ten in-person requests and no
[1:33:29] requests electronically.
[1:33:31] >> Thank you.
[1:33:32] Would you please proceed with calling the speakers.
[1:33:35] >> For the first speaker this evening is going to be Mark
[1:33:37] Alessandro.
[1:33:38] Followed by Noah Zollo.
[1:33:45] >> Hey.
[1:33:46] Mark Alexander with Mission Viejo.
[1:33:47] Thank you Wendy and Brian.
[1:33:49] For the excellent talk.
[1:33:50] Looking forward to the Olympics.
[1:33:52] I wanted to make you aware of the fatal accident on August
[1:33:57] 8th.
[1:33:57] It happened at the intersection of Glenwood Drive and Pacific
[1:34:02] Crest.
[1:34:03] And Pacific Hills.
[1:34:04] At 919 in the evening.
[1:34:08] It was dark.
[1:34:11] Short cut that intersection.
[1:34:14] A lady was walking across the street with her husband right
[1:34:18] behind her.
[1:34:19] Only 2.5ft behind her with the dog.
[1:34:22] She was halfway through.
[1:34:23] The driver hit her.
[1:34:24] Knocked her ten feet.
[1:34:26] Cracked her skull wide open.
[1:34:28] The doctors couldn't do anything.
[1:34:29] She died the following evening.
[1:34:33] At 530.
[1:34:34] Very sad.
[1:34:36] We bring this to you, maybe you can help us to do something
[1:34:42] to expedite this.
[1:34:43] We know in the past there's been several incidents.
[1:34:47] They had put stop signs up.
[1:34:50] They removed those and put yield signs up.
[1:34:54] Nothing is stopping these speeders.
[1:34:57] The only thing we can think of is some physical deterrence,
[1:35:02] like a speed bump or even cameras or something.
[1:35:05] I don't know how many people here on the council
[1:35:07] were aware of the fatal accident.
[1:35:10] That's great, the mayor was.
[1:35:14] We do appreciate that.
[1:35:17] We have sent letters to the Sheriff.
[1:35:20] To the homeowners association.
[1:35:22] We're walking around with the homeowner's association
[1:35:26] in a few weeks period just to look at the area.
[1:35:29] We've contacted the Sheriff.
[1:35:30] We sent around a letter.
[1:35:32] It's a very sad and tragic.
[1:35:36] We hope you can help expedite this.
[1:35:39] So something can be done.
[1:35:43] Go ahead.
[1:35:44] Oh, there's a traffic meeting on October 8th that will present
[1:35:49] this too.
[1:35:51] Thank you so much.
[1:35:55] Thank you Wendy.
[1:35:58] >> People cut through our neighborhood.
[1:35:59] And by doing that, that presents a huge amount of traffic.
[1:36:05] You can't see around the corners.
[1:36:08] They're oval, you can't see.
[1:36:11] The lighting is bad.
[1:36:13] The overgrowth is bad.
[1:36:16] When we come to that corner to walk our dogs or whatever,
[1:36:20] we look twice or three times before we go ahead.
[1:36:24] Because there's been accidents there before.
[1:36:26] We did get a yield sign years ago.
[1:36:29] And it's there.
[1:36:30] But at night, with the lighting and with everything,
[1:36:34] it's a challenge.
[1:36:36] And we need your help.
[1:36:38] Thank you.
[1:36:42] >> Is there anything you can do to help us?
[1:36:44] >> Right now we take your comments and --
[1:36:49] thank you for coming.
[1:36:57] >> Yeah thank you.
[1:36:58] >> Noah Zolo, followed by Michael Rocher.
[1:37:08] >> Good morning -- sorry good evening.
[1:37:13] My name is Noah Zolo.
[1:37:15] I'm a freshman at Kappa Valley High School
[1:37:19] and I am with the Community of Character Committee.
[1:37:22] During this time I would like to introduce this month's character
[1:37:26] trait, self-control.
[1:37:28] To quote our papers, the sage philosopher Cynisca
[1:37:33] once stated most powerful is he himself, he who
[1:37:39] has himself in his own power.
[1:37:41] These insightful words reveal the wisdom
[1:37:44] of the one who learns that self-control is a character
[1:37:48] value developed through mental discipline for nearly 20 years
[1:37:52] millions of kids throughout America
[1:37:54] have learned how to practice mental discipline that
[1:37:57] leads to self-control.
[1:37:58] Through being taught the star process.
[1:38:01] What is the star process?
[1:38:03] It is a character development decision making tool
[1:38:06] that the Jefferson Center of Character Education
[1:38:09] developed to help young people become kids of character.
[1:38:13] It has been taught to over 6 million kids and 6000 classrooms
[1:38:17] throughout the US.
[1:38:19] It is a character building winter.
[1:38:22] The star stands for stop, think, act, review.
[1:38:28] And success through accepting responsibility.
[1:38:30] As a decision making tool, the star process
[1:38:34] teaches young people the four important steps
[1:38:38] to central decision making that builds discipline
[1:38:41] leading to self-control.
[1:38:43] As a personal example, there are many times
[1:38:45] in my life where I have thought about saying something
[1:38:48] in front of a crowd that would not appreciate it.
[1:38:51] But by thinking of these processes
[1:38:54] and controlling myself, I can practice self control.
[1:38:58] I think about the consequences of my actions,
[1:39:01] which affect my judgment and my future.
[1:39:03] Thank you for listening.
[1:39:12] >> Michael Roger.
[1:39:12] Followed by Faith Bernstein.
[1:39:18] >> Good evening, mayor, Council members.
[1:39:20] Mike Roger.
[1:39:21] Longtime Mission Viejo resident.
[1:39:23] You guys know I'm one of those protesters.
[1:39:26] As a general rule we tend to be somewhat
[1:39:28] anti-authoritarian by nature.
[1:39:29] As such it may surprise you to hear
[1:39:31] me say how impressed I am with Captain Larsen.
[1:39:35] Your new head of the City Sheriff's Department.
[1:39:37] That surprises me too.
[1:39:39] I found him to be open and honest.
[1:39:41] Fair and knowledgeable.
[1:39:42] Always willing to listen and share.
[1:39:45] Generous with his time.
[1:39:47] You made a good choice with him and I
[1:39:49] hope he'll stick around for a long time.
[1:39:50] We've been asking a lot of questions
[1:39:53] lately about the surveillance cameras we see around our city
[1:39:56] and find him very forthcoming about their uses, capabilities,
[1:40:01] as well as some of the misconceptions
[1:40:03] that are out there.
[1:40:05] You should know I actually do trust him to do his utmost
[1:40:07] to follow the laws and enforce the safeguards put
[1:40:10] in place to uphold the delicate balance between public safety
[1:40:14] and personal privacy.
[1:40:16] And to instill that in his deputy's.
[1:40:19] All that being said, I have concerns
[1:40:21] and I think you should have some concerns as well.
[1:40:24] I want law enforcement to catch bad guys.
[1:40:28] That's no easy job.
[1:40:29] If we all had cameras on us 24 over seven, no doubt
[1:40:32] that job would be easier.
[1:40:34] But it would cost?
[1:40:36] Whereas the appropriate balance?
[1:40:38] These are not just cameras but a national interactive network
[1:40:42] of sharable coordinated technology
[1:40:44] whose surveillance capabilities are only now being understood.
[1:40:47] You've no doubt seen or heard about the abuses that
[1:40:50] have occurred around the country and many right
[1:40:52] here in California.
[1:40:53] While we may be insulated from those misuses here in our city,
[1:40:57] thanks to the diligence and guidance of Captain Larsen,
[1:40:59] we must realize that we are only a part of a national system that
[1:41:04] frankly seems to exhibit some gaping holes
[1:41:07] in its administration.
[1:41:09] Add to that the possibility of accessing and hacking
[1:41:12] of sensitive information, compounded
[1:41:14] by the rapid evolution of AI systems,
[1:41:17] that make that easier, if not inevitable.
[1:41:21] But my biggest concern is the overall concept
[1:41:25] that history and the very nature of human beings and governments
[1:41:28] show that if you build a mass surveillance apparatus,
[1:41:30] even with the best of intentions and regardless of protections,
[1:41:35] eventually someone or some entity
[1:41:37] will come along and misuse it.
[1:41:38] And with a network as comprehensive as this,
[1:41:41] our democracy could lose total control over it.
[1:41:44] What happens when our captain retires?
[1:41:46] When our council changes?
[1:41:48] When state laws are modified?
[1:41:50] When our leaders no longer respect
[1:41:52] our Constitution or system of checks and balances.
[1:41:55] Many people around the country are asking the City Council
[1:41:58] to pull out their contracts with these cameras
[1:42:01] and be banned altogether some are calling
[1:42:05] for searches of these databases to be
[1:42:07] subject to judicial warrants.
[1:42:08] I believe discussion of these issues is crucial on all levels.
[1:42:13] City Council, staff, residents.
[1:42:16] Thank you.
[1:42:21] >> Dave Bernstein.
[1:42:22] Followed by Bill Moorhead.
[1:42:26] >> Hello, mayor, and city Council members my name is Faith
[1:42:29] Bernstein.
[1:42:30] I live at 22921 via Santa Maria in Mission Viejo.
[1:42:35] I live next door to the hoarder that
[1:42:37] lives at 22931 via Santa Maria.
[1:42:41] I attended the hearing in August the 5th.
[1:42:44] I was surprised the only issues code
[1:42:47] enforcement was talking about were the trash
[1:42:50] cans, the trailer, and stuff.
[1:42:52] Not fire or safety hazards.
[1:42:54] The officer did not seem very knowledgeable about the case,
[1:43:00] even though she said she's been on it for three years.
[1:43:03] He has gotten many extensions.
[1:43:06] I would like to be informed if the warrant was obtained
[1:43:11] and when it will be acted upon.
[1:43:14] He has collected more stuff.
[1:43:16] Thank you.
[1:43:18] >> Thank you.
[1:43:23] >> Bill Moorhead.
[1:43:24] Followed by Wiley Foran.
[1:43:28] >> Good evening mayor.
[1:43:30] And Council.
[1:43:31] Most of you know who I am.
[1:43:34] I'm Bill Moorhead.
[1:43:35] I'm a resident of 27022 Presidio Drive here in Mission Viejo.
[1:43:41] I've been a resident for 33 years.
[1:43:42] Also a member of the Presbyterian Church
[1:43:44] up the street.
[1:43:45] I also sit on the board of directors at Milton Legal Water
[1:43:50] District.
[1:43:50] And also Mission Viejo.
[1:43:52] I am not here to talk about water.
[1:43:54] I am here as a thank you to the City Council and staff
[1:43:59] and specifically Mr. Robert Burton and Dave Likness.
[1:44:04] Who were the drivers behind the parade 250.
[1:44:08] I was very proud to be invited to that parade as part
[1:44:12] of the Milton Water District.
[1:44:15] People that are elected officials here in the city.
[1:44:18] I also wanted to call out others.
[1:44:21] Mark Nix told me not to call him out, he's not here.
[1:44:25] O, there he is.
[1:44:27] There's a lot of people that were
[1:44:30] involved in this parade, 250.
[1:44:32] I wanted to make sure both Dave Robert and Mark got called out
[1:44:37] on what a great job they did.
[1:44:39] On a more personal note, I was raised
[1:44:43] in Gettysburg Pennsylvania and Gettysburg
[1:44:45] was known for lots of parades and it's a very nostalgic
[1:44:48] for me to be invited to be in this parade.
[1:44:51] I do remember as a grade school student from one through six,
[1:44:55] we would take flowers through the town.
[1:45:00] All the graves.
[1:45:04] That meant a lot to me.
[1:45:06] It was a big part of my life as far as parades.
[1:45:08] Being involved and the Mission Viejo 250th parade was a big
[1:45:14] honor for me and made me very nostalgic.
[1:45:18] I might be so bold to suggest future parades.
[1:45:22] Celebrating our country's birthday.
[1:45:25] Say parade 251.
[1:45:27] 252.
[1:45:28] But let's not get too anxious.
[1:45:31] I think 255 might be a good one to focus on.
[1:45:34] If the city does decide to do parades in the future,
[1:45:38] celebrating the 4th of July, I would be honored to be part
[1:45:41] of that parade and I would certainly be a volunteer.
[1:45:44] In conclusion, most importantly for me,
[1:45:48] speaking tonight, I want to thank again both Dave and Robert
[1:45:53] for the work they did on this parade.
[1:45:55] I was very proud to be a part of it.
[1:45:57] I think you guys did a great job.
[1:45:58] With that, thank you very much for listening to me
[1:46:01] and I'll see you sometime in the future, I'm sure.
[1:46:03] Thank you very much.
[1:46:06] >> Wiley Farran.
[1:46:09] Followed by David Shmyr.
[1:46:18] >> Howdy there.
[1:46:19] I'm Wiley Farran.
[1:46:22] Resident of Mission Viejo.
[1:46:23] I'm here because I'm upset.
[1:46:25] Why am I upset?
[1:46:26] Great question, mayor.
[1:46:28] Flock cameras.
[1:46:29] They're everywhere these days.
[1:46:31] They're in the news.
[1:46:33] I probably pass by ten of them on my way
[1:46:35] to work every single day.
[1:46:36] I'm not sure how I feel about that.
[1:46:38] I think it's a little creepy.
[1:46:39] I think it's a little invasive.
[1:46:41] And I don't really feel comfortable
[1:46:42] being watched all the time by the government or by police.
[1:46:45] I didn't even know about these things until six months ago.
[1:46:49] That's my bad.
[1:46:50] You guys voted on this in April 2025.
[1:46:52] I was behind the times.
[1:46:54] I'm sorry.
[1:46:54] I'm here now.
[1:46:55] I want to get rid of these cameras.
[1:46:57] April 8th, 2025 meeting, it sounded like some of the members
[1:47:02] of the council were scared.
[1:47:03] Scared of roving bands from South America coming up here
[1:47:06] and committing violence against the people of Mission Viejo.
[1:47:09] Particular emphasis was placed on car crimes and property
[1:47:13] damage.
[1:47:13] In particular, one of you even mentioned
[1:47:16] that you've been the victim of catalytic converter theft
[1:47:19] multiple times.
[1:47:20] The police commander who was here,
[1:47:23] wove a stirring narrative of flock cameras
[1:47:26] being able to save a little old lady from a carjacking.
[1:47:29] Thank you.
[1:47:30] Or being able to track catalytic converters with the cameras.
[1:47:35] How could you not get the cameras?
[1:47:38] It made sense.
[1:47:40] I mean, exchange the Populace's privacy for safety.
[1:47:43] We all want safety, right?
[1:47:45] Who's providing the safety?
[1:47:47] The commander that day, he mentioned misusing --
[1:47:53] but right over in Costa Mesa a police officer stalked his wife,
[1:47:57] stalked his mistress.
[1:47:58] Are they safer?
[1:48:00] I don't think they are.
[1:48:03] That's just one bad officer, right.
[1:48:05] One bad apple.
[1:48:07] You all know the phrase.
[1:48:09] The whole phrase is one bad apple spoils the bunch.
[1:48:12] And I don't really feel comfortable with anyone
[1:48:14] in that bunch having access to where I'm going.
[1:48:16] In particular, the company that controls this data.
[1:48:20] Where were they ten years ago?
[1:48:22] What kind of security system do they have in place that
[1:48:26] Facebook, Equifax, chase Bank have that they don't?
[1:48:30] All those three companies I just listed
[1:48:32] had data breaches with catastrophic consequences
[1:48:34] for the public.
[1:48:36] And you're telling me that flock has
[1:48:38] some magic security that will prevent these data breaches?
[1:48:40] If this data gets out, who could get access to this?
[1:48:44] Gangs, terrorist, knowing where we
[1:48:46] go at every moment of the day.
[1:48:48] That seems way worse.
[1:48:50] I think I'm running low on time.
[1:48:53] How much time do I have left, does it say?
[1:48:55] 27 seconds, perfect, let's keep going then.
[1:48:58] Catalytic converter theft.
[1:49:00] This all started because of that.
[1:49:02] I don't think these car crimes are so omnipresent that we need
[1:49:06] to be monitored at all times and even if they are,
[1:49:09] I think there's a simpler solution than monitoring
[1:49:12] the entire public.
[1:49:13] We could just put serial numbers on the catalytic converters.
[1:49:19] Turn it into a more controlled thing.
[1:49:22] I'm out of time.
[1:49:23] I'll be here next week.
[1:49:26] Thank you.
[1:49:29] >> David, followed by Angela Monticelli.
[1:49:40] >> Madam mayor, city council.
[1:49:44] My name is David Samir.
[1:49:46] I'm a longtime resident of Mission Viejo
[1:49:49] and I live with my back up against the Maryland's
[1:49:54] International Speedway.
[1:49:56] Since Maryland's has been adopted as the route from La Paz
[1:50:03] to the freeway or whatever freeway access.
[1:50:07] La Paz has turned into a speed detriment.
[1:50:13] Within the last ten days, there was an accident.
[1:50:16] Within the last month, there was another accident.
[1:50:20] Both of which happened right behind my house.
[1:50:24] There are a couple of speed signs on the street.
[1:50:29] But I called police before and asked for help.
[1:50:34] I've asked for any kind of advice
[1:50:37] or any kind of furthering of information to maybe help
[1:50:42] with us that live in that speed zone.
[1:50:47] The accidents have gotten worse.
[1:50:49] One just a few days ago.
[1:50:53] Bounced across the freeway.
[1:50:55] Or bounced across the street.
[1:50:57] Two sides of the street and ended up on a curve.
[1:51:00] The one prior to that took out trees, it was late at night.
[1:51:04] It took out trees and then it was a hit and run.
[1:51:08] They disappeared.
[1:51:09] The police did finally catch them.
[1:51:12] All I'm saying is, that street has turned
[1:51:17] very violent and very fast.
[1:51:20] It wasn't like that when I moved in here.
[1:51:23] I get it, progress.
[1:51:25] Etc..
[1:51:26] All I ask is that we put up some additional speed limits signs
[1:51:33] or perhaps a flashing sign that says hey,
[1:51:37] you're doing 70 miles an hour.
[1:51:39] The way the street is designed, there
[1:51:41] are blind spots coming up and over the top of the hill
[1:51:44] and coming from the bottom over the top of the hill.
[1:51:47] Either way.
[1:51:48] Motorcycles and trucks haul down that street.
[1:51:53] A lot of it's because of the detour from the freeway.
[1:51:58] Again, as a long time resident, I
[1:52:02] just ask for some help from you guys and maybe
[1:52:06] to address it or look into it and see what we can do.
[1:52:10] I've been told it was too expensive to put a sign up
[1:52:13] that flashes and says you're doing 35 or you're doing 65.
[1:52:18] That's what the police told me.
[1:52:20] I don't know if that's the case.
[1:52:21] I don't know if anybody has looked into that.
[1:52:24] But I would think that would be a small price
[1:52:27] to pay to prevent impending doom for the next person who's
[1:52:31] walking across the street or driving across the street
[1:52:35] and getting clipped by somebody doing 70.
[1:52:37] Thank you.
[1:52:49] >> Angela Fancelli.
[1:52:50] Followed by Tom Moore.
[1:52:58] >> Good evening mayor and members of the city Council
[1:53:03] my name is Angela Ponticelli and I'm a mother of three young
[1:53:06] active children.
[1:53:07] With another baby on the way.
[1:53:09] Praise God.
[1:53:10] And have been a resident of Mission Viejo
[1:53:12] for the better part of my life.
[1:53:14] Approximately 23 years.
[1:53:15] I also have the honor of speaking tonight
[1:53:17] on behalf of the Creek team.
[1:53:20] I was motivated to speak after learning
[1:53:22] about the deeply concerning cancer cases reported
[1:53:24] in Ladera Ranch and the questions that
[1:53:27] have been raised regarding potential connection
[1:53:29] to pesticide exposure.
[1:53:30] As a mother, this has caused me to think very carefully
[1:53:33] about the environments where our children spend
[1:53:35] so much of their time.
[1:53:37] I was very pleased to learn that the approximately three weeks
[1:53:40] ago the city of Mission Viejo implemented an integrated
[1:53:44] pest management or IPM guideline.
[1:53:47] I appreciate the city choosing to be proactive
[1:53:49] and taking steps to reduce unnecessary pesticide
[1:53:53] exposure while maintaining our public spaces.
[1:53:56] Tonight I am respectfully asking the city
[1:54:00] to consider one additional step that would work naturally
[1:54:03] alongside these new guidelines.
[1:54:05] Updating the city's current public notification practices
[1:54:08] to residents, so we can be clearly informed
[1:54:12] when pesticides have been applied
[1:54:14] to specific public areas.
[1:54:15] This would include parks, turf, grass areas, playgrounds,
[1:54:20] surrounding areas, athletic fields and sports parks
[1:54:23] throughout Mission Viejo.
[1:54:24] My children regularly play in parks
[1:54:26] and participate in football and soccer throughout the city.
[1:54:29] Like many parents.
[1:54:31] I simply want the ability to make an informed decision
[1:54:34] about when my children play, following a pesticide
[1:54:38] application period this is not a request
[1:54:39] to prevent the city from properly maintaining its parks.
[1:54:42] It's a request for greater transparency and communication.
[1:54:45] Clear signage or another easily accessible notification system
[1:54:50] identifying what was applied, where it was applied,
[1:54:53] and when it was applied, would give parents and residents
[1:54:57] to make their own informed choices.
[1:54:59] I am grateful that Mission Viejo has already
[1:55:02] taken an important step through its new IPM guidelines
[1:55:05] and I respectfully ask the Council
[1:55:07] to build upon that progress by strengthening
[1:55:09] the public notification requirements thank you
[1:55:11] for your time, your service to our community,
[1:55:14] and for considering the concerns of Mission Viejo families.
[1:55:19] >> Thank you.
[1:55:21] And the final speaker -- is that correct?
[1:55:28] >> There's two more.
[1:55:29] Tom Moore followed by Alex Guest.
[1:55:36] >> Good evening.
[1:55:37] Tom Moore.
[1:55:37] Bear with me.
[1:55:38] I'm going to read an article.
[1:55:39] This is out of Thursday six, August 26th, New York Times.
[1:55:45] Adam Crafton writes for The Athletic.
[1:55:47] Which is a subsidiary of the New York Times.
[1:55:52] Host cities claim FIFA still owns the money.
[1:55:56] U.S. Host cities for the 2026 World Cup
[1:56:02] are chasing FIFA for millions of dollars
[1:56:05] they believe they were promised by soccer's governing body.
[1:56:08] Which has gone so far unpaid.
[1:56:14] FIFA's president Gianni Infantino announced
[1:56:21] that people would make a contribution of $1 million
[1:56:25] to each of the 11 cities across the country who are hosting
[1:56:29] matches during the club tournament
[1:56:30] period this was described as a legacy contribution.
[1:56:33] He said the funds would be used to build many fields.
[1:56:37] Small fields.
[1:56:39] And support social projects.
[1:56:44] The U.S. City is scheduled to host
[1:56:47] games in 2026. (indiscernible).
[1:56:54] Across 39 games during the World Cup according to the four
[1:56:59] executives at U.S. Host City committees, all of whom
[1:57:03] remain anonymous to protect relationships,
[1:57:05] FIFA management repeatedly assured the cities
[1:57:08] they would receive the same $1 million
[1:57:10] contribution toward legacy, despite no public statements
[1:57:13] ever being made by the organization.
[1:57:21] This was made verbally by the members of the FIFA management.
[1:57:26] I'm reading this because not too long ago
[1:57:27] there were questions about the contracts.
[1:57:30] For the Olympics in 28.
[1:57:34] I want to thank Council Member Vazquez for asking questions.
[1:57:38] Actually asking questions and verifying
[1:57:41] that these things are closed.
[1:57:44] We have good contracts.
[1:57:46] Strong contracts.
[1:57:47] I didn't hear anything in that meeting
[1:57:49] that assured me that these contracts are closed and good.
[1:57:54] I just want to say, this stuff happens all the time.
[1:57:58] Everybody wants to have a party.
[1:58:00] But then when the party is over, all of a sudden
[1:58:04] there's a few people left holding the bag
[1:58:07] and I don't want the residents of Mission Viejo holding
[1:58:10] the bag.
[1:58:11] I want to thank Council Member Vazquez for her comments
[1:58:16] and questions.
[1:58:16] Thank you.
[1:58:21] >> Alex guest.
[1:58:28] >> Good evening.
[1:58:33] Distinguished mayor and city Council members.
[1:58:36] My name is Alex Guest and I'm here
[1:58:40] representing 827 Orange County residents
[1:58:42] who have signed a petition demanding e-bike safety reform.
[1:58:45] E-bikes are everywhere in our community.
[1:58:48] Fast, heavy, and almost completely unregulated.
[1:58:50] They can hit 25mph with no age restrictions.
[1:58:54] No speed controls.
[1:58:56] No licensing.
[1:58:57] And they're entering people regularly.
[1:59:00] I started this petition because I believe we can fix this.
[1:59:03] 34 cities in California have passed local e-bike safety
[1:59:06] ordinances.
[1:59:07] We can two.
[1:59:08] We're asking for five things.
[1:59:10] First, a minimum age of 16 years old second,
[1:59:16] mandatory speedometers on all e-bikes.
[1:59:18] Third, a county issued e-bike license with a road rules
[1:59:22] on the road safety test.
[1:59:23] So the county knows who's illegally or legally
[1:59:28] riding on a (indiscernible).
[1:59:33] And fifth, diverting these funds into a city
[1:59:37] held youth E-bike Safety fund to fund infrastructure
[1:59:40] for bike lanes and e-bike safety research.
[1:59:43] These aren't radical, they're practical.
[1:59:46] If 827 Orange County residents agree,
[1:59:49] residents from every corner of our county,
[1:59:51] including many from Mission Viejo who understand this safety
[1:59:55] issue that affects all of us.
[1:59:58] A Laguna Niguel City Council member
[2:00:01] has already endorsed this petition.
[2:00:04] Has praised us in an op Ed in the voice of OC.
[2:00:08] I'm asking Mission Viejo to join us.
[2:00:10] Endorse the petition.
[2:00:11] Draft a resolution supporting e-bike safety.
[2:00:14] Let's show that when young people stand up for communities,
[2:00:17] cities listen.
[2:00:19] Thank you.
[2:00:21] >> Thank you.
[2:00:25] Very well done very well done, sir.
[2:00:29] Well done.
[2:00:32] Will you give that information to our city clerk?
[2:00:36] Thank you very much. (laughs)
[2:00:50] >> That is our last in-person speaker.
[2:00:52] >> Thank you so much.
[2:00:54] Okay, I would like to have staff address one of the items
[2:00:59] and then I'm going to -- actually two of the items.
[2:01:03] If you could quickly address the protocols
[2:01:06] we put into place regarding pesticides.
[2:01:08] That was actually done more than three weeks ago.
[2:01:11] Thank you for noticing.
[2:01:14] If you could give a timeline of that.
[2:01:16] We understand the importance of that
[2:01:19] and we understood a long time ago before all of this stuff
[2:01:22] has come up here Jerry, if you could do that.
[2:01:25] And then also, I'm going to move up something on the agenda
[2:01:32] up here can you address the e-bike?
[2:01:34] I know there's an ordinance that you're
[2:01:37] thinking of bringing forth.
[2:01:38] Thank you.
[2:01:40] >> Good evening Madam Mayor, city council.
[2:01:43] Yes, in regards to our pesticide policy, our integrated
[2:01:48] pest management program, we've actually
[2:01:50] had it in place for over a decade officially period prior
[2:01:53] to that, 20 years prior to that we were actually practicing it,
[2:01:57] but we put it to paper a little over a decade ago.
[2:02:03] And IPM program, I don't know if everyone knows what that is.
[2:02:07] It's a sponsored program created by the University of California
[2:02:10] Cooperative Extension Sciences.
[2:02:13] It's a science based.
[2:02:16] It's not all about spraying a pesticide.
[2:02:21] It's about looking at the whole program
[2:02:22] of how you manage your landscapes and your property.
[2:02:26] Before a pesticide is considered to be used,
[2:02:30] being organic or synthetic, whatever, staff
[2:02:34] goes out and monitors the situation.
[2:02:36] Finds out what the pest might be.
[2:02:39] And then decides whether it's worth acting on.
[2:02:44] Some pest thresholds, there okay.
[2:02:48] There natural.
[2:02:49] Plant selection is a Biggie.
[2:02:52] I'll give you an example.
[2:02:54] A pest on a California pepper tree.
[2:02:57] Everybody probably knows what that is.
[2:03:00] Well, it grows through, it Disfigures a leaf a little bit.
[2:03:04] But the plant sustains itself.
[2:03:06] So we choose not to treat that plant.
[2:03:08] There's a lot of things when it comes to rodents
[2:03:10] and insects and whatnot.
[2:03:12] Making sure your buildings have Weatherstripping.
[2:03:15] Really simple things.
[2:03:16] It's part of a very effective program for keeping
[2:03:19] your plants healthy.
[2:03:20] Fertilizing your plants.
[2:03:22] Like your body, you keep your plant healthy
[2:03:24] and it can ward off pests.
[2:03:26] You keep the area clean, most organic mulch
[2:03:28] is a wonderful tool that has many benefits.
[2:03:33] We use that extensively throughout the city.
[2:03:37] Cultural habits.
[2:03:39] Like I said, the appropriate plant material in the right
[2:03:43] places.
[2:03:43] We've changed our plant palette over the years
[2:03:47] in Mission, many, many times.
[2:03:50] Certain melodies come down the pike of different insects
[2:03:53] from around the world.
[2:03:55] We could choose to keep a particular plant because we like
[2:03:59] it, but to keep that plant healthy would
[2:04:00] require a lot of pesticide.
[2:04:02] Examples like the oleanders that used to be all over our slopes.
[2:04:07] Beautiful plant but there was a cute little insect called
[2:04:10] a glassy winged sharpshooter.
[2:04:13] That decided to be a vector to a very ugly disease.
[2:04:17] Which is known as the oleander disease.
[2:04:20] So we don't plant that anymore.
[2:04:22] The same with the major premium all over the slopes.
[2:04:27] We treated it for a while but realized
[2:04:30] that's really not the responsible thing to do.
[2:04:32] And there's other plants.
[2:04:34] There's hibiscus that we loved.
[2:04:36] But it gets a terrible whitefly.
[2:04:39] Along with other plants.
[2:04:40] That's just an example about being responsible upfront.
[2:04:43] Rather than being reactionary and trying
[2:04:46] to catch up and fight a battle that probably
[2:04:49] shouldn't even be fought.
[2:04:51] That's examples upfront.
[2:04:53] We always evaluate situations when
[2:04:56] we need to apply pesticides.
[2:04:58] We always go through the least toxic pesticide first.
[2:05:02] Most of the herbicides we use are in the level three category,
[2:05:07] which is caution.
[2:05:09] Which is very safe.
[2:05:12] It's nothing you can't buy at Home Depot
[2:05:14] to be honest with you.
[2:05:15] All of our applicators -- our city staff,
[2:05:19] we have pest control advisors, licensed by the city
[2:05:22] of California -- the state of California.
[2:05:28] They're heavily regulated.
[2:05:30] All the pesticides are going through the process
[2:05:34] of EPA regulations.
[2:05:37] The county ag Commissioner oversees all the implementation
[2:05:42] of the chemical pesticides.
[2:05:44] They do reporting.
[2:05:46] Our contractors are required to report monthly to the state.
[2:05:51] We require them to report monthly applications to us
[2:05:55] as well.
[2:05:56] So we know what's going on on our property.
[2:05:59] We have no governance over the HOA.
[2:06:02] There's over 60 Hoa's in this town.
[2:06:05] A lot of landscape.
[2:06:06] We have no oversight over the.
[2:06:08] We can only do oversight on our own property.
[2:06:11] We don't spray any chemicals in the grass areas.
[2:06:15] Where people recreate.
[2:06:17] We stay away from playground areas.
[2:06:20] We focus on ground cover areas.
[2:06:24] Slopes.
[2:06:25] Planters.
[2:06:26] Things like that.
[2:06:27] Where people aren't supposed to be walking through.
[2:06:30] That's just a short little snippet of our program.
[2:06:33] We take it very seriously.
[2:06:36] We're very responsible with what we do.
[2:06:40] I just wanted to share that.
[2:06:42] >> Thank you very much.
[2:06:43] I just want to say to the folks that we're asking,
[2:06:46] I think they left, --
[2:06:57] >> I just wanted everyone to know that I'm adding an agenda
[2:07:00] item to the September 8th meeting which will essentially
[2:07:02] direct the staff to update the current IPM program guidelines.
[2:07:06] That will include things like codifying the city's website
[2:07:09] guidance.
[2:07:10] Strengthening the organic pesticide requirements.
[2:07:12] A few other things.
[2:07:14] It does include adding a public notice requirement.
[2:07:17] So just keep that in mind.
[2:07:19] Thank you.
[2:07:20] >> Okay.
[2:07:21] Thank you.
[2:07:21] What I would like to do is I would
[2:07:22] like to add for the folks that shared with us
[2:07:26] the tragic accident, that that issue is coming to the traffic
[2:07:30] committee.
[2:07:31] Staff is already looking into it.
[2:07:34] Hopefully they'll hear this and listen to this
[2:07:36] after the meeting.
[2:07:38] Elaine alerted me to that.
[2:07:40] Thank you.
[2:07:41] I would like to do a reorder of the agenda at this point.
[2:07:46] And move the public Safety report
[2:07:48] that Chief Larson was already set to give, which I think
[2:07:52] will speak to some of these other items that have come up.
[2:07:55] Have him move that up to, prior to the consent calendar.
[2:08:01] With that --
[2:08:07] >> Madam mayor?
[2:08:08] Would you like me to give a presentation on the Santa Ana
[2:08:12] matter now?
[2:08:13] Or wait until the attorney report at the end of the agenda?
[2:08:19] >> Thank you for that, appreciate that.
[2:08:22] >> I just wanted to let the city know,
[2:08:25] the residents know that following the exploration of --
[2:08:33] after the public hearing on the abatement matter following
[2:08:36] the expiration of the residents opportunity to cure
[2:08:39] the violation, my office was in court filing for the abatement
[2:08:44] warrant.
[2:08:45] We were in this past Friday.
[2:08:47] We filed the request for abatement warrant
[2:08:50] this past Friday.
[2:08:52] We're in court again on Monday.
[2:08:54] We're in court again today waiting
[2:08:57] for that abatement order.
[2:08:58] And we were told to come back tomorrow
[2:09:00] to await the return of the abatement order.
[2:09:02] We'll stay in court as long as it
[2:09:04] takes to receive the abatement order hopefully
[2:09:07] the city can then proceed with actually performing
[2:09:10] the abatement itself.
[2:09:13] >> Thank you very much.
[2:09:15] Okay moving on now to report from our Chief of Police.
[2:09:20] If you could please proceed?
[2:09:24] >> Good evening Mayor and City Council and city staff.
[2:09:28] Last council meeting you asked me
[2:09:30] to prepare on the Orange County Sheriff's blotter
[2:09:34] as to why it's no longer on our website.
[2:09:36] We had an issue, a cyber incident that
[2:09:40] had us cut that server tie as.
[2:09:43] Which housed our taggers database.
[2:09:48] It had the who's in jail as well as the bladder.
[2:09:52] Once we got rid of the blotter, we realized it was a well sought
[2:09:56] after -- which Actually lays out a longer period of time versus
[2:10:07] those calls that are in service at that moment.
[2:10:10] You can go back 30 days and see the crimes that
[2:10:13] are reported through our contract cities
[2:10:16] and do your own mapping for that area.
[2:10:18] In regards to the e-bikes, the Sheriff's department
[2:10:23] has taken a very proactive approach.
[2:10:26] Especially our southeast and southwest operation Division.
[2:10:29] Partnering with our traffic office.
[2:10:32] We're going through different city municipal codes.
[2:10:37] Who have had several issues with the e-bikes.
[2:10:40] And we are in the process of creating
[2:10:43] an e-bike municipal code that's going to encompass
[2:10:46] a lot of our contract cities and it
[2:10:48] includes a lot of the topics that were brought up.
[2:10:52] The 16 year old riding an e-bike that they're not supposed to.
[2:10:55] The different laws we can enforce
[2:10:57] throughout our city parks and sidewalks and roadways.
[2:11:00] That we are hindered doing right now.
[2:11:03] In that program also is a diversion program.
[2:11:07] As well as, as you'll see in the future,
[2:11:11] a lot of these community education
[2:11:12] events that we're hosting.
[2:11:14] Where parents can come out with the kids and do e-bike classes
[2:11:17] and put on an eight hour e-bike safety class.
[2:11:20] That's going to help us a lot in teaching the younger
[2:11:26] kids the rules of the road as well as giving them
[2:11:29] school safety.
[2:11:30] We've also partnered with the Saddleback Valley and Capital
[2:11:35] Valley school districts to conduct e-bike inspections
[2:11:38] at the campus appeared to allow those legal e-bikes and the kids
[2:11:43] that pass their test, their written test,
[2:11:47] we are taking a proactive approach.
[2:11:51] Working with city staff on an e-bike municipal code
[2:11:54] for the city.
[2:11:55] That's going to encompass a lot of those concerns
[2:11:57] that we're seeing throughout our community.
[2:11:59] The last topic the council and the mayor wanted to discuss
[2:12:04] was related to flock.
[2:12:06] I'll go through the history of flock.
[2:12:11] Data privacy laws as well as our policies.
[2:12:15] State laws that we abide by.
[2:12:17] As well as share some success stories
[2:12:19] related to flock camera system that we currently have in place
[2:12:24] throughout the city.
[2:12:25] A little background history, April 21st, 2025,
[2:12:28] the city of Mission Viejo entered a contract with flock
[2:12:34] safety.
[2:12:35] To implement both automated license plate reader
[2:12:38] technology and Zoom cameras throughout the city.
[2:12:41] These cameras are deployed at the main entrances to the city
[2:12:44] and cameras are deployed throughout busy intersections
[2:12:47] in the city.
[2:12:48] These technologies provide mission Viejo deputies
[2:12:51] with additional investigative tools to enhance public safety.
[2:12:55] While maintaining strong privacy protections.
[2:12:58] The technology captures images of the vehicle
[2:13:01] and uses optical character recognition
[2:13:03] to identify license plate numbers.
[2:13:05] It is an investigative tool designed to generate leads
[2:13:08] during criminal investigations.
[2:13:10] Assist in locating stolen vehicles and missing persons.
[2:13:14] Support investigations involving crimes, residential burglaries
[2:13:20] and organized theft.
[2:13:21] More importantly, the technology enhances
[2:13:24] the location of abducted children
[2:13:26] and the rapid location of suspects
[2:13:27] involved in crimes in our city.
[2:13:30] The system is not designed to provide continuous surveillance
[2:13:32] or track the movements of individuals.
[2:13:34] It does not photograph drivers or vehicle occupants.
[2:13:37] Its purpose is to identify vehicles.
[2:13:40] Not the people inside of the.
[2:13:42] Mission Viejo retains the data for one year,
[2:13:46] allowing investigators to develop leads
[2:13:47] in both current and long term criminal investigations.
[2:13:51] PTZ camera footage is only retained for ten days
[2:13:54] and is primarily used to provide deputies
[2:13:56] with real time situational awareness
[2:13:57] during active incidents.
[2:14:01] It serves as a force multiplier by providing real time crime
[2:14:08] monitoring.
[2:14:08] Live streaming and access to investigative databases.
[2:14:11] This partnership allows Mission Viejo deputies
[2:14:14] to respond more effectively to crimes in progress.
[2:14:17] Locate suspects and missing persons.
[2:14:20] Recover stolen vehicles.
[2:14:22] Enhance overall safety.
[2:14:24] Officer Safety.
[2:14:25] Since January 2026, the real time Operations Center
[2:14:29] has provided operational support on 56 incidents related to Alpr
[2:14:33] data.
[2:14:34] When it comes to privacy, security and accountability,
[2:14:37] protecting the privacy and civil liberties
[2:14:40] of the community as a fundamental component
[2:14:42] of the city's public safety technology program.
[2:14:46] The technology is governed by California law
[2:14:49] and comprehensive Orange County Sheriff's Department policy that
[2:14:52] establishes strict requirements regarding access, retention,
[2:14:56] auditing, and data sharing.
[2:14:58] California Civil Code section 1798.90.5 through 1798.90.55
[2:15:06] which commonly referred to as California's LPR Privacy law.
[2:15:13] Requires the enforcement agencies
[2:15:15] to adopt privacy policies.
[2:15:18] Maintain audit logs, documenting all system access
[2:15:22] period conduct regular audits.
[2:15:24] Ensure the technology is used only for legitimate law
[2:15:28] enforcement purposes.
[2:15:29] It must be independently verified
[2:15:32] through traditional investigation methods
[2:15:35] before enforcement action is actually taken.
[2:15:37] In addition to these requirements,
[2:15:39] Orange County Sheriffs Department policy
[2:15:42] provides additional safeguards.
[2:15:43] Cameras are deployed only in public locations.
[2:15:45] Where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy
[2:15:48] and department policy prohibits the use
[2:15:51] of facial recognition and biometric identification
[2:15:54] technology.
[2:15:54] The technology may not be used for arbitrary, discriminatory,
[2:15:58] or unauthorized monitoring of individuals.
[2:16:01] It may not be used to monitor First Amendment activities
[2:16:04] except when necessary to address a legitimate public safety
[2:16:07] concern.
[2:16:08] Access is restricted to authorized department personnel
[2:16:13] who have completed department approved training.
[2:16:16] Every search requires a documented law enforcement
[2:16:19] justification.
[2:16:19] Such as a call number or case number.
[2:16:22] Before information can even be accessed.
[2:16:25] User authentication and audit logs audit
[2:16:29] who access the system, ensuring transparency and accountability
[2:16:34] California law also plays a strict limitations
[2:16:37] on how information may be shared.
[2:16:42] Information cannot be sold, shared, or transferred,
[2:16:46] except to another public agency and only as otherwise permitted
[2:16:49] by law.
[2:16:50] In accordance with California law,
[2:16:53] it does not use information for enforcement purposes.
[2:16:57] And does not share data with any federal agency, especially
[2:17:03] those involved with immigration enforcement.
[2:17:06] Data is not shared with private out of state law enforcement
[2:17:11] agencies and any authorized sharing with California agencies
[2:17:15] requires written request.
[2:17:17] An overall department approval.
[2:17:19] To ensure accountability, Alpr usage
[2:17:23] is monitored monthly by supervisor personnel.
[2:17:27] While it undergoes an audit.
[2:17:31] These audits review user access, in compliance
[2:17:35] with department policy and many (indiscernible).
[2:17:44] Here in the city of mission Viejo,
[2:17:48] Sergeant Sandler conducts a monthly audit
[2:17:51] related to our Alpr usage by our deputies.
[2:17:55] To share some success stories related to flock usage,
[2:17:58] within the city, mission Viejo deputies
[2:18:01] investigated a felony hit and run involving an e-bike rider.
[2:18:05] Using our flock Alpr technology and the PTZ cameras
[2:18:09] at the nearby intersection, deputies
[2:18:11] identified a suspect vehicle with a damage
[2:18:14] consistent with the collision.
[2:18:15] Eventually deputies obtained a search warrant.
[2:18:18] The vehicle was seized as evidence
[2:18:20] and registered owner was arrested for felony hit and run.
[2:18:24] Another incident of victim reported
[2:18:26] that another driver pointed a handgun at them
[2:18:28] during a road rage incident.
[2:18:30] Technology identified the suspect.
[2:18:34] Another incident involved deputies
[2:18:37] investigating a sexual assault. Used
[2:18:39] flock to identify the suspect vehicle and a nearby camera
[2:18:44] located the vehicle at a gas station.
[2:18:46] Allowing deputies to safely conduct a high risk
[2:18:49] stop and take the suspect into custody without incident.
[2:18:51] Another one related to a stolen vehicle entering the city.
[2:18:55] Flock alert notified deputies that
[2:18:56] were on duty of a stolen U-Haul that had entered
[2:19:00] the city of Mission Viejo.
[2:19:01] Deputies quickly located the vehicle and safely
[2:19:04] detained both occupants without incident.
[2:19:19] Mission Viejo deputies routinely use the cameras
[2:19:24] during domestic violence incidents, robberies,
[2:19:27] traffic collision, welfare checks, and suspicious person
[2:19:31] calls and any other critical incident.
[2:19:34] In several cases camera observation
[2:19:38] confirmed that emergency responders were already
[2:19:40] on scene.
[2:19:41] Or that a situation had stabilized allowing our deputies
[2:19:44] to reduce lights and siren.
[2:19:47] Reducing the risk to the deputies as well as the public.
[2:19:50] The city of Mission Viejo investment in flock technology
[2:19:53] has provided Mission Viejo deputies
[2:19:55] with modern investigative tools and enhanced public safety
[2:19:59] while maintaining strong privacy protections.
[2:20:01] Since implementation, the technology
[2:20:04] has helped to us identify suspects, solve serious crimes,
[2:20:08] recover stolen vehicles, locate missing persons,
[2:20:11] preserve critical evidence, and improve overall officer safety.
[2:20:16] Flock demonstrates that effective policing and strong
[2:20:20] privacy protections can coexist.
[2:20:22] The technology has helped deputies solve serious crimes.
[2:20:25] Locate missing persons.
[2:20:27] Improve officer safety while operating
[2:20:29] under strict legal safeguards.
[2:20:31] California Law, Orange County Sheriff's Department policy,
[2:20:35] documented search justifications,
[2:20:37] comprehensive audit requirements,
[2:20:39] restricted user access and carefully limited data
[2:20:42] sharing practices ensure the technology is used responsibly.
[2:20:46] For legitimate public safety purposes period while
[2:20:49] protecting the constitutional rights
[2:20:51] and civil liberties of the Mission Viejo Community Park
[2:20:55] >> Thank you.
[2:20:58] I plan on agenda a presentation in the future
[2:21:03] as things progress.
[2:21:04] I will be doing that as well.
[2:21:07] Thank you.
[2:21:08] Moving on to the consent calendar.
[2:21:12] Do we have any requests to speak on the consent calendar?
[2:21:20] >> We do.
[2:21:22] >> Okay, we do.
[2:21:23] I would ask if any council members
[2:21:24] would like to pull any other items besides items number 17
[2:21:28] and 18.
[2:21:29] Which I plan to pull.
[2:21:32] If not, I will move the remainder.
[2:21:35] I'm waiting.
[2:21:36] I was waiting because I wasn't sure if you were done.
[2:21:40] Okay.
[2:21:41] I've got a motion and a second.
[2:21:45] We have to do verbal votes tonight because Council Member
[2:21:49] rice is -- do we have to take public comment first?
[2:21:54] Excuse me.
[2:21:55] Pardon me.
[2:21:56] So for item number 14--
[2:22:08] >> If you want to come up and speak, this is your time.
[2:22:10] >> Thank you.
[2:22:30] >> Good evening.
[2:22:31] I'm a resident of Mission Viejo.
[2:22:34] My resident property sits directly
[2:22:38] behind Barbara Dane's Park.
[2:22:41] While I understand the city's desire to renovate the park,
[2:22:47] the current scope of the project introduces critical noise,
[2:22:52] safety, and nuisance liabilities that directly affect
[2:22:58] the quality of life, peace and security
[2:23:01] of the immediate perimeter residents.
[2:23:03] We already face ongoing documented nighttime intrusions.
[2:23:07] Late night loitering and severe noise disruption
[2:23:10] that frequently disrupts our sleep
[2:23:13] and requires intervention from the Orange County Sheriff's
[2:23:15] Department.
[2:23:16] The proposed layout changes and lighting additions
[2:23:20] will severely amplify these existing problems
[2:23:23] under the strict design implications immediately.
[2:23:28] As a directly impacted homeowner,
[2:23:31] I formally request that the city integrate
[2:23:38] the following modifications before final approval.
[2:23:43] Number one is establish a stricter area park hours.
[2:23:49] Changing it from 11 p.m.
[2:23:51] To 9 p.m..
[2:23:56] The number two is the mandatory automatic lighting timer.
[2:24:01] And number three is illuminated enforceable rule signage
[2:24:06] at the entrance to the park and also at the basketball court.
[2:24:10] And careful placement of the water stations.
[2:24:15] And number five is acoustic buffering for the basketball
[2:24:22] court.
[2:24:23] Because our property is shared direct boundaries
[2:24:27] with the public space.
[2:24:29] We (indiscernible).
[2:24:35] I request that my comments be added
[2:24:38] to the official public records.
[2:24:39] Thank you.
[2:24:40] >> Thank you for your comments.
[2:24:42] Appreciate it.
[2:24:43] We have a motion and a second for the remainder of the items?
[2:24:49] I will go ahead and call the vote.
[2:24:57] [Members voting]
[2:25:04] >> I am also a yes.
[2:25:05] Thank you.
[2:25:07] Okay.
[2:25:08] Could I get a staff report on item 17.
[2:25:15] I'm really doing this just to shine a light
[2:25:19] on this particular issue.
[2:25:21] That has been a real challenge for us.
[2:25:26] I think we answered it very well.
[2:25:28] So if I could get the staff report.
[2:25:31] >> Yes.
[2:25:33] Madam mayor, our community director will give that.
[2:25:38] >> Thank you come on good evening.
[2:25:40] This is the city of Mission Viejo response
[2:25:46] to the 2025, 2026 California housing mandates,
[2:25:56] the reshaping of Orange County neighborhoods.
[2:25:59] The grand jury report examines the role and responsibilities
[2:26:02] of the State Department of Housing and Community
[2:26:06] Development.
[2:26:07] In determining the number of new housing units
[2:26:11] the state of California should plan for every eight years
[2:26:14] and across various income levels and designing a fair share
[2:26:18] portion of the statewide housing need to each of the Metropolitan
[2:26:22] planning agencies in the state.
[2:26:24] This is known as the Regional Housing Needs Assessment.
[2:26:28] Or Rina.
[2:26:29] The grand jury explores the sixth Cycle 2020 Rina planning
[2:26:35] process and examines how Rina and other prescriptive housing
[2:26:38] mandates have placed a substantial pressure on Orange
[2:26:42] County jurisdictions to plan for significantly greater levels
[2:26:46] of housing capacity.
[2:26:47] Based on the challenges and constraints observed,
[2:26:50] the Orange County grand jury determined that the impacts
[2:26:54] of the state's housing mandates are of concern and cannot be
[2:26:58] ignored.
[2:26:58] The report outlines 22 findings and 20 recommendations
[2:27:02] to improve Orange County's role in promoting
[2:27:05] greater equity, transparency, and public understanding
[2:27:09] of the Rina process.
[2:27:11] And the city's response is largely
[2:27:15] agree with the grand jury's findings.
[2:27:19] Staff is seeking council's authorization for the mayor
[2:27:23] to sign and for staff to transmit the city's proposed
[2:27:28] response.
[2:27:29] For the grand jury report as presented
[2:27:32] in the first attachment, exhibit A to the staff report
[2:27:37] that concludes our presentation.
[2:27:40] >> Thank you.
[2:27:41] I just want to highlight that because much of what they
[2:27:44] thought should be done -- the city of Mission Viejo was
[2:27:49] actually doing.
[2:27:49] I don't know how many of you remember,
[2:27:51] but I was doing a report at every single meeting,
[2:27:54] reporting out of scag and out of Rina,
[2:27:58] and I was reporting that the state determined that the region
[2:28:02] needed 1,341,827 units.
[2:28:05] Just for the Scag region.
[2:28:10] That's six counties.
[2:28:11] Orange County being one of them.
[2:28:14] And Mission Viejo was assigned 2217.
[2:28:17] And the one thing that we asked was, where did you get --
[2:28:25] orange County was assigned -- sorry I left that out,
[2:28:32] we just asked where you got the 1,000,341 827.
[2:28:38] That was really never answered.
[2:28:41] Talk about transparency.
[2:28:43] It's really required of us by the state.
[2:28:48] But the transparency that we were getting from the state
[2:28:51] was not there and so we actually are
[2:28:54] pushing for legislation and regulations that
[2:28:57] require just that.
[2:28:59] Out of HCD.
[2:29:01] I hope we get that for your sake.
[2:29:06] After December, I'm off the city council.
[2:29:09] But I'll still be advocating as a resident.
[2:29:11] You better believe it.
[2:29:13] With that, if anybody has any questions or comments,
[2:29:17] I'll move the item, and I'm gladly --
[2:29:23] I'm glad we signed the letter.
[2:29:24] We're going to do a roll call vote.
[2:29:34] [Members voting]
[2:29:38] And I just wanted to bring this one to light.
[2:29:42] This is a fun one.
[2:29:44] Item number 18.
[2:29:45] Could I get a staff report on the resident block Party
[2:29:50] program?
[2:30:02] >> Thank you mayor comment as we get adjusted back here.
[2:30:05] I brought community services supervisor Marcelo Dario with me
[2:30:09] who worked with the commission on this.
[2:30:12] I'd like him to present the initial report.
[2:30:15] >> Good evening mayor and fellow council members.
[2:30:18] At the October 21st Community Services Commission
[2:30:24] (indiscernible).
[2:30:24] Where brought on to an ad hoc and Commissioner Conroy
[2:30:31] were appointed onto this block party
[2:30:34] where we met for several months in
[2:30:36] regards to a block party program for our residents.
[2:30:38] This program basically we came up with two options.
[2:30:42] Option A was a bin delivery program.
[2:30:45] In which these bins are containing supplies
[2:30:48] that are reserved by the residents
[2:30:50] and delivered directly to their homes by the city staff.
[2:30:53] Or option B where the bins can be reserved by residents
[2:30:56] and picked up at a designated city location.
[2:30:59] Commissioners came up with a lot of ideas
[2:31:03] in regards to how this benefits the community
[2:31:06] and promoting community togetherness.
[2:31:12] And also, a community survey was conducted in addition
[2:31:19] to this, in which 47 residents that
[2:31:23] attended a mission activities springtime Paris boutique
[2:31:29] and April spring Madness week Night Market agreed with us.
[2:31:34] And to residents saying no.
[2:31:36] Those residents lived in a gated community parent
[2:31:40] Commissioner is also here to answer any questions.
[2:31:46] >> I just wanted the residents to know that this is something
[2:31:49] that is going to be -- can you give us an idea of what the cost
[2:31:57] will be for residents?
[2:31:59] >> Yes.
[2:32:01] It's a $100 refundable deposit.
[2:32:04] You can rent the bins for $45.
[2:32:07] Which is the permit fee for that.
[2:32:10] These bins will be anything you need basically
[2:32:15] games come a party equipment, traffic control.
[2:32:23] >> Great.
[2:32:23] Over the 4th of July there's many different people,
[2:32:27] that's just one example.
[2:32:28] This happens at other times.
[2:32:30] There's a lot of neighborhoods that have little bike parades
[2:32:33] and some of them are larger than little.
[2:32:35] This is a great opportunity for those folks
[2:32:39] to have a resource for those types of events
[2:32:44] and have contact with city staff and you're making it really easy
[2:32:48] for them and I wanted to make sure we highlighted
[2:32:50] that for people as you plan for the events that are coming up.
[2:32:54] I think the next big one is how do we in.
[2:32:57] It seems like that happens. --
[2:33:06] I think the next big one is Halloween.
[2:33:08] It seems like that happens.
[2:33:16] Any questions on this?
[2:33:19] I'll go ahead and move the item.
[2:33:23] Thank you.
[2:33:24] Were there any comments, I guess we probably handled that
[2:33:30] at the very beginning.
[2:33:31] Thank you.
[2:33:32] Council member Kelly?
[2:33:38] Calling for the vote.
[2:33:41] Probably should have said that.
[2:33:46] [Members voting]
[2:33:49] And then I am a yes as well.
[2:33:51] Thank you.
[2:33:52] Okay.
[2:33:53] Next we have public hearings.
[2:33:57] And this first one, item number 20
[2:34:01] is a public hearing to consider all objections to the proposed
[2:34:05] abatement of weeds on parcels less
[2:34:09] than one acre for the annual weed abatement program 2026.
[2:34:13] Any members that would like to speak on this item
[2:34:18] would need to request to speak with the clerk
[2:34:22] or raise your hand in the Zoom at this time.
[2:34:29] >> We have no requests for this item.
[2:34:31] >> Okay thank you so much.
[2:34:35] Should I at this point consider the public hearing open.
[2:34:39] And we have no comments.
[2:34:42] Or no speakers.
[2:34:44] Do we consider it closed at this point
[2:34:48] or do we wait for the staff report?
[2:34:52] Sorry.
[2:34:53] Okay, I'll ask for a staff report now, thank you.
[2:34:59] >> I'll ask our operations manager for the report.
[2:35:03] >> Thank you, Jerry.
[2:35:05] Good evening city Council.
[2:35:07] This is to consider all objections to the proposed
[2:35:10] abatement of weeds on parcels less
[2:35:12] than one acre for the annual weed abatement for 2026.
[2:35:17] Instruct Public Services Department
[2:35:19] to proceed the removal of weeds.
[2:35:23] On June 23rd, 2026, City Council adopted resolution 26-33 that
[2:35:32] required notification of certain property owners to remove weeds
[2:35:35] from properties designated and set the date of August 25th,
[2:35:39] 2026, for public hearing to hear and consider all objections
[2:35:43] to the proposed removal of weeds by the City of Mission Viejo.
[2:35:47] City staff mailed notices to all properties as designated
[2:35:50] in resolution 26-33 exhibit A. In the past,
[2:35:55] the majority of property is notified by the due date.
[2:35:59] Staff recommends the City Council,
[2:36:01] after hearing all objections for the proposed removal of weeds
[2:36:05] on parcels less than one acre, overrule any objections
[2:36:08] in accordance with sections 39568 through 39588
[2:36:13] of the Government Code and -- when we brought this to City
[2:36:22] Council on June 23rd, 2026, there were four residents
[2:36:27] on the non-compliant list.
[2:36:28] There are now currently three.
[2:36:30] One was able to become in compliance.
[2:36:32] And that is the report.
[2:36:35] >> Thank you.
[2:36:38] At this point is the point where I'm officially
[2:36:41] opening the public hearing and I'm confirming,
[2:36:43] we still do not have any requests to speak?
[2:36:46] Thank you.
[2:36:47] I will go ahead and close the public hearing at this point.
[2:36:51] Colleagues, is there any discussion on this?
[2:36:54] Seeing none, we do this every year, so thank you for that.
[2:37:00] I did highlight, there was only three and one
[2:37:03] came into compliance.
[2:37:05] With that, I will ask for a motion.
[2:37:09] With a staff recommendation.
[2:37:14] >> I move.
[2:37:15] >> Second.
[2:37:16] >> Thank you.
[2:37:17] That is to instruct the public Services department
[2:37:19] to proceed and perform the removal of the weeds
[2:37:22] in accordance with section 39568 and 39588 of the Government
[2:37:28] Code.
[2:37:36] Seeing no further comment, I'll go ahead and call for the vote.
[2:37:45] [Members voting]
[2:37:53] >> I am also a yes.
[2:37:54] Thank you.
[2:37:55] The next public hearing that we have
[2:37:58] is a General Plan amendment, zone map amendment.
[2:38:03] Development code amendment.
[2:38:06] Which is petition for the city initiated for consideration
[2:38:11] of an amendment to title nine of the Mission Viejo Municipal Code
[2:38:16] to establish Development Code amendments to implement program
[2:38:19] for.
[2:38:20] Replacement housing.
[2:38:21] And program 13.
[2:38:23] Development Code amendments.
[2:38:25] As identified in the Housing Plan of the city's sixth cycle.
[2:38:30] Which is 2021 through 29.
[2:38:32] Housing element.
[2:38:33] And to comply with state housing law.
[2:38:36] The General Plan Amendment and Zoning
[2:38:39] map amendment, for the zone change,
[2:38:42] or proposed to create a low barrier Navigation Center
[2:38:45] overlay zone and and emergency shelter, residential overlay
[2:38:52] zone.
[2:38:52] As identified in the program 13 of the housing element.
[2:38:57] For members of the public who wish to speak on this item,
[2:39:00] please submit a request to speak with the clerk,
[2:39:04] or raise your hand in the Zoom.
[2:39:06] Can I please get a staff report?
[2:39:10] >> Laura do you want to take it away?
[2:39:12] >> Thank you again, Mayor and members of the council.
[2:39:17] I'll ask if we can pull up the presentation.
[2:39:19] As you mentioned, mayor, the housing element development code
[2:39:24] amendments this evening implement two programs
[2:39:26] in the housing Element.
[2:39:28] Programs four and 13 of the city's
[2:39:32] adopted and Certified General Plan housing element.
[2:39:36] These programs and the actions being taken tonight
[2:39:40] are all in compliance with and as
[2:39:42] required by state housing law.
[2:39:44] The code updates are primarily text changes.
[2:39:48] There are general plan and zoning map revisions as well.
[2:39:53] To add the two overlays.
[2:39:55] Again, as you mentioned, for the low barrier
[2:39:59] navigation center and the emergency center overlays.
[2:40:02] All of which we will go over this evening.
[2:40:04] This effort is funded by a state grant that
[2:40:08] was awarded to the city called Regional Early Action
[2:40:12] Planning or Repe.
[2:40:13] 2.0 grant program.
[2:40:15] The grant is awarded through Scag and Acog
[2:40:18] and it was Ocog who selected Interwest consulting Group
[2:40:22] to help draft these amendments with Curt Pringle and Associates
[2:40:27] assisting with the public outreach.
[2:40:29] Housing consultant, Nick.
[2:40:32] Is, with Interwest is here tonight
[2:40:35] and will review the proposed code amendments.
[2:40:37] Before we get into those details,
[2:40:39] I want to briefly point out how one of the actions that
[2:40:46] was proposed this evening also addresses the city's arena
[2:40:50] accommodation.
[2:40:51] A no net loss regulation that stipulates the city
[2:40:54] must always be able to accommodate its remaining arena
[2:40:59] obligation.
[2:40:59] Related to tonight's actions, state law
[2:41:03] requires that on properties where emergency shelters are
[2:41:06] permitted, the city also has to permit development
[2:41:10] of residential projects.
[2:41:12] Its proposed onto specific sites and we'll
[2:41:15] review those in just a moment.
[2:41:16] This will result in additional Rena
[2:41:19] capacity that helps the city meet its no net loss
[2:41:22] requirement.
[2:41:23] I want to emphasize this point.
[2:41:26] Additional arena capacity is now needed
[2:41:29] based on the city's recent approval, the Planning
[2:41:33] Commission's approval, of the Burlington Site housing project.
[2:41:37] As advocates for affordable housing,
[2:41:40] the city initially relied on a long standing policy
[2:41:43] to require for that project a minimum
[2:41:46] of 15% of the units as affordable to lower income
[2:41:50] households.
[2:41:51] However the applicant offered only 5% of affordability per
[2:41:56] citing SB 330 state law provisions and claiming the city
[2:42:01] cannot enforce its 15% policy.
[2:42:03] The applicant further asked the state Department
[2:42:07] of Housing and Community Development
[2:42:09] to weigh in on the issue.
[2:42:11] And unfortunately, HCD agreed with the applicant
[2:42:16] and sent the city and advisory stating that it could not
[2:42:20] enforce its long standing policy because it was not formally
[2:42:24] written and adopted prior to the application
[2:42:28] submittal for that project.
[2:42:29] The housing project was therefore
[2:42:32] approved with only 5% affordable units, leaving the city
[2:42:37] with a greater shortfall for its affordable units
[2:42:41] than it would otherwise have.
[2:42:42] The good news is, fortunately the arena capacity that
[2:42:47] would be added by tonight's actions
[2:42:49] would cover the shortfall from that Burlington project.
[2:42:52] As well as provide capacity for potential future projects.
[2:42:56] If there are no questions on that issue,
[2:43:00] I'll ask Nick to take over the presentation.
[2:43:08] >> Nick?
[2:43:21] >> Good evening.
[2:43:22] Mayor and city Council members my name
[2:43:25] is Nick, with Interwest consulting Group.
[2:43:29] I've been the project manager on this zoning code
[2:43:32] amendment for about nine months or so tonight
[2:43:34] for your consideration our city initiated zoning amendments
[2:43:39] to implement programs for N 13 for the city certified 2021
[2:43:44] to 2029 Housing Element and to ensure compliance
[2:43:47] with recent changes to state law,
[2:43:50] housing laws the amendments also support the city's
[2:43:53] ongoing efforts to address housing
[2:43:56] needs within the community.
[2:43:57] As part of this effort the city conducted a community outreach
[2:44:02] program to gather input from a variety of stakeholders.
[2:44:05] Included stakeholder interviews conducted in early March.
[2:44:09] Focus group meetings held in mid-March
[2:44:11] with local housing advocates.
[2:44:13] Nonprofit organizations.
[2:44:14] And the development community, such as the building Industry
[2:44:20] Association, B, and specific developers
[2:44:23] who have worked in South Orange County.
[2:44:26] A community workshop was hosted in April.
[2:44:29] Feedback received through these efforts
[2:44:31] was considered during the development
[2:44:33] of the proposed zoning amendments.
[2:44:35] In addition, the city also make social media announcement.
[2:44:42] And sent notices to the paper, affected properties,
[2:44:47] and stakeholders.
[2:44:51] The first set of amendments was to address program
[2:44:54] for the Housing Element.
[2:44:57] February 8th, 2024, the California Department of Housing
[2:45:01] and Community Development certified the city's housing
[2:45:04] element as being in substantial compliance with state housing
[2:45:08] Element Law.
[2:45:08] The amendments ensure that new housing developments
[2:45:11] do not reduce the total number of existing housing units
[2:45:13] and do not reduce the number of dwellings.
[2:45:17] Housing lower income persons as required
[2:45:20] by program four of the Housing Element and State law.
[2:45:25] This slide shows code amendments and the following
[2:45:29] slides after this that are under program 13 of the Housing
[2:45:35] Element.
[2:45:35] Adjust for the general public, what
[2:45:38] that means is temporary service and shelters designated
[2:45:42] to quickly transition individuals
[2:45:44] experiencing homelessness into permanent housing.
[2:45:46] They remove obstacles to shelters such as bans on pets
[2:45:51] and connect residents to directly intensive on case
[2:45:56] manager and public benefits.
[2:45:59] State law requires that cities allow development of low barrier
[2:46:04] navigation centers permitting multi-family uses
[2:46:09] if the facility meets specified requirements
[2:46:12] periods such as a coordinated entry system and a system
[2:46:15] for entering client information.
[2:46:17] State law applies statutory timelines
[2:46:19] for review and approval of low barrier navigation centers.
[2:46:23] The intent of state law is to provide for low barrier
[2:46:27] navigation centers as a tool for alleviating the homelessness
[2:46:30] crisis and your community in Orange County and at large.
[2:46:36] The city is proposing to update the existing emergency shelter
[2:46:40] provisions that are currently in the code with a new overlay
[2:46:44] district.
[2:46:44] This include establishing an emergency shelter overlay
[2:46:48] in the business Park zone with revised development
[2:46:51] and operational standards the updated development
[2:46:53] standards and reduced development constraints,
[2:46:56] such as parking and separation requirements, as required
[2:47:00] by program 13 of the Housing Element state law.
[2:47:03] So two properties were identified
[2:47:06] in the housing element.
[2:47:07] To have an overlay for emergency shelters,
[2:47:10] which are shown here on this map.
[2:47:14] On the screen in an area close to the border of Laguna
[2:47:17] Hills and the properties are 26941 Cabot Road and 27194
[2:47:23] Camino Capistrano. (indiscernible).
[2:47:29] The amendments will permit supportive housing developments,
[2:47:33] 50 units or fewer.
[2:47:35] In applicable multifamily zones in the city.
[2:47:39] Which is RPD 14, 30, 50, and 80, as required
[2:47:44] by state law and housing element.
[2:47:47] A new parking standard for supportive housing
[2:47:50] has also been added to the development code for this.
[2:47:54] Employee housing was also addressed.
[2:47:56] Employee housing is privately housing
[2:47:59] for five or more employees.
[2:48:04] We updated definitions of employee housing
[2:48:09] and added it as a permitted use in all residential districts.
[2:48:13] We also address residential care facilities
[2:48:16] and reasonable accommodations.
[2:48:18] The amendments differentiate between small and large
[2:48:21] residential care facilities.
[2:48:23] Allowing small facilities by right and large facilities
[2:48:25] with a conditional use permit that's
[2:48:28] subject to objective design standards
[2:48:31] as required by program 13 of the Housing Element
[2:48:34] and also state law.
[2:48:35] The city will update its rules for review
[2:48:38] of disability related housing.
[2:48:40] By removing certain findings that
[2:48:42] are no longer allowed under state law and federal law.
[2:48:46] Making the process clearer and more fair.
[2:48:49] In terms of senior housing, the senior housing overlay,
[2:48:54] these amendments assure that the senior housing
[2:48:56] would be treated similarly to multifamily housing
[2:48:58] by removing the conditional use permit requirement.
[2:49:02] Retaining that senior housing overlay.
[2:49:05] To avoid non-conforming properties
[2:49:07] and reducing parking requirements
[2:49:08] to encourage future development.
[2:49:10] These revisions to the development Code
[2:49:15] include the RPG 14, 30, 50, 80, and the five
[2:49:21] sites in the senior Housing overlay,
[2:49:24] will allow senior housing and congregate care
[2:49:28] by right, with a plan development permit required
[2:49:32] for the structure.
[2:49:32] It will also (indiscernible).
[2:49:38] Next slide.
[2:49:39] The development code we had addressed,
[2:49:43] SB 35, or streamlining of certain projects.
[2:49:48] Projects that developers proposed and applicants.
[2:49:51] This requires the city to establish
[2:49:54] procedures to implement SB 35 eligible projects.
[2:49:58] Include objective design standards.
[2:50:07] And the application review process and approval authority
[2:50:13] for the ministerial Review of Qualifying multifamily housing
[2:50:17] projects under SB 35 has been added
[2:50:19] to section nine of the Development Code period the code
[2:50:24] update also addresses SB nine, which
[2:50:28] allows the splitting of lots into two parcels.
[2:50:31] One property into two parcels.
[2:50:36] This has the city doing amendments
[2:50:39] to implement SB nine requirements for urban lot
[2:50:42] splits and duplex development.
[2:50:44] And helps provide technical assistance to property owners.
[2:50:53] The last set of development standards
[2:50:55] includes adjustments to the height limits
[2:50:57] for residential multifamily residential zones.
[2:51:00] That includes an RPG 30 zone updating the height limit from
[2:51:04] 35 to 40ft and from two stories to three stories.
[2:51:08] Also allows or recommends RPG 50 updating the height limit five
[2:51:14] feet from 50 to 55ft and then RPG 80 zone is updating
[2:51:18] the height limit from 65 to 84ft.
[2:51:21] Which is a property zone, which is the mall site.
[2:51:27] That's where that would be allowed.
[2:51:29] With that, I'm going to turn over to Cliff Jones
[2:51:34] to talk about the recommended actions for this evening.
[2:51:38] >> Thank you, Nick.
[2:51:39] The recommended action from staff
[2:51:41] is that you find the project to be exempt from the California
[2:51:45] Environmental Quality Act, based on staff determination.
[2:51:58] And adopt resolution for approval of the general Plan
[2:52:03] amendment and zoning amendment and development code amendment.
[2:52:06] And introduce that ordinance.
[2:52:09] Staff and the -- our consultants are available to respond to any
[2:52:17] questions that you may have.
[2:52:19] Thank you.
[2:52:20] >> Okay.
[2:52:21] Mr. City attorney?
[2:52:25] >> Thank you.
[2:52:27] Mayor Buckham has recused herself from this item.
[2:52:30] She will not be hearing this item and she is not on the dais.
[2:52:34] Apparently, out of an abundance of caution, a source of income
[2:52:39] to her, Curt Pringle is a consultant
[2:52:41] or otherwise involved in this process.
[2:52:43] And therefore, mayor has recused herself from this item.
[2:52:48] That is my report.
[2:52:52] >> That's it.
[2:52:53] That's a new position for her.
[2:52:56] It's sort of just happened.
[2:52:58] Kind of an oops.
[2:53:01] Leave the dais here because of the potential conflict
[2:53:07] or perception of conflict of interest.
[2:53:10] Nothing major.
[2:53:11] Just a procedural issue.
[2:53:14] Is there any request to speak?
[2:53:19] We do have some?
[2:53:21] >> We do.
[2:53:22] We have two.
[2:53:22] The first is going to be Jim Pitkin and the second one
[2:53:26] is Sal Faso.
[2:53:32] >> Good evening.
[2:53:35] >> Good morning Carbajal.
[2:53:37] First of all, (indiscernible).
[2:53:45] I'm one of those units that were put in that thing ten days ago.
[2:53:50] We got the letter and said what the hell is going on?
[2:53:55] Thanks to Elaine and Larry for Being very
[2:53:59] responsive to my questions.
[2:54:01] Very informative.
[2:54:02] I was able to read all of that and another 64 pages.
[2:54:06] Understanding this, that we have been layered as commercial.
[2:54:10] Then we've been overlaid as a residential
[2:54:13] and now we're being overlaid as another temporary or homeless
[2:54:19] housing.
[2:54:19] Whatever that may be.
[2:54:21] I see that as what you're doing for the state, as requirements.
[2:54:25] I get that.
[2:54:27] But I have to have these questions.
[2:54:29] Being the owner in the center, there are no busses.
[2:54:36] There are no places for people to go and get
[2:54:42] their health stuff.
[2:54:43] Any kind of groceries in our area.
[2:54:46] If you're talking about temporary housing
[2:54:49] you're talking about somebody who has to move.
[2:54:52] Be mobile.
[2:54:53] Have to do things.
[2:54:54] And it's a mile down the street or even more.
[2:54:59] Where a destination location with a reputation
[2:55:01] of great food, community service, and why
[2:55:04] would we be looking to change our business
[2:55:06] to do temporary housing?
[2:55:08] I am 71 years old and I want to pay off my SBA loan
[2:55:14] and I want my daughter, for the next 30 years,
[2:55:17] to run my restaurant.
[2:55:18] That puts me out of the picture.
[2:55:22] I'm gone.
[2:55:23] But we're here to support the community.
[2:55:25] We always have been and we will continue to be.
[2:55:28] Why would they rezone this building?
[2:55:31] I don't get it.
[2:55:34] It's sort of missing a few elements
[2:55:38] and I don't know how we met the criteria.
[2:55:42] Again, I have to compliment your staff on what you've done.
[2:55:46] I appreciate your forthrightness,
[2:55:49] getting back to me.
[2:55:52] Obviously this is something that we read across --
[2:56:03] we are right across from Paul mayor.
[2:56:10] One of the biggest residential areas in the city.
[2:56:14] So, thank you for your time.
[2:56:16] >> Thank you.
[2:56:24] >> As Jim said, good morning.
[2:56:26] I want to come at night.
[2:56:28] Councilman, women, managers and clerks, thank you for your time.
[2:56:34] Not that I'm here in the same line of Jim,
[2:56:39] I don't understand how the decision was made
[2:56:41] or how the picks were made.
[2:56:43] I could have picked different locations.
[2:56:45] I'm not sure how that one got picked.
[2:56:47] If that happens, I'll sell the building and leave.
[2:56:50] I can't find a place in the world where you live comfortable