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regularly scheduled August

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meeting the Breen City Council.

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>> I'm sorry. Will you go ahead and turn on

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>> Okay. Well, now with the microphone on

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call to order the regularly scheduled

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meeting of the Nino City Council and

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would you please uh stand and join the

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pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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>> M city call the role.

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>> Council member Craig

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>> here.

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>> Council member Mata

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>> present.

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>> Council member Torren

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>> here. Vice Mayor Shannon

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do you colleagues want to change the

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orders of the day and anything?

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madam city clerk, are there any

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>> Okay. Well, then we

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the end of the meeting under council

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member comments. So, so we don't sort of

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Okay. Uh, we have a We're going to start

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with a presentation by Moroc

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District. Please, your name and

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social security. Am I on here?

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and all the viewers in team.

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>> Yeah. Uh my name is Craig Gleon. I'm

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award one director for region regional

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open space district and um uh next slide

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our our mission it boils down to five

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words. Preserve, protect, restore,

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educate and enjoy. And that represents

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the the braiding of the natural resource

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preservation, land preservation with the

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public access to these lands. Next

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So we currently have uh over 72,000

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acres under management all the way from

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up near Half Moon Bay to over to the

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coastside near Pescadero and then down

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all the way to the edge and actually a

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little bit into Santa Cruz County by um

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so-called demonstrations forest. Next

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Loscatos and parts of Certino and then

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uh the lands that you see going down

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So we protect many many things. So you

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San Francisco Zoo as well as other

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wildlife agencies to u protect and

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garder snake. and the very interesting

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captivity and then in u introducing

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So um few facts about men. We were

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coastside. Uh we have 27 preserves. 25

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public. They're open all day and um

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Los Altos and we're moving on towards

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major bond fund that was passed in 2014,

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million over 30 years for major projects

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nearby preserves here. Uh, you can click

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Sierra Azul is our biggest preserve

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mighty. It's uh one of our most populate

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open this up since 2019. Uh and we have

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major projects going on there right now

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building a bigger parking lot which we

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well. So I'll go on to some of the

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wildland fire resiliency which is very

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prescribed burn that we did at the end

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of 2024 uh over in Cherry Springs which

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acres and we're gearing up to do a much

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the year to do this larger um somewhere

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Splatos Creek WHED collaborative. It's a

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partnership program between Midpen and

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a really interesting project and one

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physical barriers uh which I think were

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preserves but they unfortunately also

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prevented anybody with a mobility

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device, wheelchair uh from getting onto

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the trails. And so this project started

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systematically removing those barriers.

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access trails. So now uh we have several

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places um to install these granite

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surfaces which look and feel like trails

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but are much more uh sustainable and and

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hardened. Uh so they're they're truly

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wheelchair accessible. Next slide

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many hundreds of people uh attended this

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other agencies um where people came in

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naturalist program. So every week we

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different activity levels. Next slide,

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particularly partnerships that bring in

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the land trust of Santa Cruz have all

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Mountains is uh it's a biodiversity

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hotspot but it's also sort of hemmed in

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by our civilization our our cities and

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our towns and our roads particularly

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highway 17 is a barrier to wildlife

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crossing and um has many hot spots for

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roadkill. So, this is one thing that

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we're we're really concentrating on

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improving. And next slide, please. U one

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way we're doing that is by building a

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major wildlife undercrossing for um at

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Highway 17 up by the Lexington Dam. So,

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just below the dam, there'll be a a very

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significant wildlife undercrossing. And

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this is a place where there's a creek,

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trout creek that comes down and

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currently crosses in a culvert that's

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not suitable for wildlife crossing. Uh

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but this will provide a much better

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pathway for the wildlife.

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And uh next slide, please. In

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conjunction with that, we're connecting

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the Bay Area Ridge Trail across a point

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very close to there, a little closer to

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Loscatoos.

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Um, so this will connect from the

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Loscato Creek Trail up into Elsareno and

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then ultimately we'll connect that on

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the back side of Elsereno down to San

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Park. Next slide please. [clears throat]

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And these um so these projects are well

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underway. They're in the design phase

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and we're also doing a lot of uh grant

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seeking fundraising for these projects.

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So, Midpen has a substantial amount of

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uh measure doubleA allocated to these,

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but we're still seeking grant funding

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from external agencies and u

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optimistically we would hope to break

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ground as early as possibly uh next

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year. Next slide, please.

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Um something that we've really been

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trying to increase our outreach on is

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rodenticide. So, in areas around the

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preserves or close to the um the city

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boundaries, we often see these uh sickly

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animals, particularly coyotes, sometimes

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bobcats or foxes, and they've been

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poisoned by eating um rodents that have been poisoned with rodenticide. So,

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we're really trying to step up the uh

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public awareness of this and get people

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particularly around these these um

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wildland urban interfaces to reduce

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their use of rodenticides and use other

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methods to control the rodents there.

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Next slide, please.

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And another really interesting wildlife

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project is for the kang Santa Cruz

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kangaroo rat. So several years ago, I

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think there was only one known

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population of bees in Henry Cowell State

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Park, but another one was discovered up

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in El Soul. So up on the LMA Pria Ridge

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and Midpen is for

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>> just just one

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>> a population Okay.

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>> One.

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So now there there are two populations.

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>> Okay. uh known. And what what Midban is

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trying to do is is really expand the the

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habitat and connect these little islands

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of habitat up there uh to make it so

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that that population can be more

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sustainable and and less likely to be

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wiped out by you know some particular

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event. Um [clears throat] next slide

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please.

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Okay. So that's what I wanted to talk to

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you about. Uh, I would definitely

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encourage you all to visit our

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preserves. And um, also I I love to be

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out there hiking or or riding bikes. So

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if uh, anybody would be interested in in

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touring some of these preserves and

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maybe hearing more about some of these

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projects that we have coming up, I would

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be very happy to do that for you or any

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of your constituents. And I'd take any

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questions you have now. colleagues.

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Well, I first I want to thank you for a

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very interesting presentation. Uh

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questions of the speaker.

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>> Well, I just thanks so much. Um it's

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really wonderful work you're doing. Um

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question is what so

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we may take you out on your offer to go

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on a hike or a bike ride. Um but what what else can we do? What what do

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you need from us?

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Is there something specific?

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Maybe I I could also ask my my colleague Alex

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here. Um I I think what one thing is

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sort of helping to spread the word,

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right? We have we have a lot of good

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programs particularly the dosent

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naturalist program. We have um very

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established volunteer program. So, uh,

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started out primarily [clears throat]

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>> put you on our website. That might be

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very

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>> website. Do we have material? I I think

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that would be great. Maybe links to our

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events and activities page.

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>> Okay. I I I think your colleague wants

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to She's looking like,

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>> please. The first amendment breathe

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free. Why don't you introduce yourself

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and add whatever you'd like to add?

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>> Hi everyone. I'm Alex Ree, the

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government affairs specialist. Sorry, I

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was a little late. I wasn't used to the drive in this part of the peninsula

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during rush hour. Um, I think exactly

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what you said just about getting the

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word out and that's really why we do

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these introductions and presentations is

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to spread awareness about this amazing

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resource that exists across the Santa

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Cruz Mountains. Um, I'll be happy to

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share information that you could add to

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the Montes Reno website as well. And

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like Director Gleason said, our

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volunteers accomplish so much. Like we

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would not be able to accomplish the

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habitat restoration efforts we do

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without our volunteer base. We have over

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a thousand people that support that. So

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getting people involved in that way is

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really valuable.

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>> Well, um, our city clerk should become

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your new best friend. And Senator

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Craig comments,

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» um, I have a number of comments.

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>> Go, go.

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And hopefully I won't embarrass Craig

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too much because I met Craig years ago.

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Who were you work? What were you working

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on with the town of Lascatos? Was there

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a trail system or

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>> We we put together a um uh trail

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connectivity report that

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>> we were looking at potential connections

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between trails and parks and open space.

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>> That was before you joined Bit Pen,

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right?

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>> Yes, I believe so.

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>> That doesn't sound too embarrassing.

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Well, um, so

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>> Greg,

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he's on Straa and I, we follow each

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other and every time you go,

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>> Strava,

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>> for those of us who are alive, what's

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Straa?

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>> Straa is an app where you record what

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you're doing from an activity

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perspective, exercising. So I see

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>> So social media,

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>> social media. Okay, that's so so I see

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when Craig goes out into the open space

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preserves and he's taking all these

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wonderful photos of the wildlife and

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everything else. Um, and it's just he

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takes a lot of really great photos. Um,

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so, uh, and when when I'm going through

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Elserino open space and I see a

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motorbike there, I'll take a picture and

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then send it to Craig and [laughter]

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Craig's like, "Okay, we we're on it."

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So, um, I appreciate that because you

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shouldn't have, you know, motorbikes

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going through in the open space. Um,

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and, uh, it's interesting. Now, now I'm

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going to make a comment because I don't

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comment on Next Door, but I kind of

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watch it every once in a while and I see

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all these photos of the mangy coyotes,

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you know, and how sickly they are and whatnot. And I didn't know that it's

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a result of uh rodent size. So, that's

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really interesting. And it's I find that

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offensive that

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>> well we don't have much of that here

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because every coyote I've seen in the 47

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years I've lived here has been very

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healthy. So I don't think

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>> I have I have seen them on on

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>> maybe in your neighborhood

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>> university. Yeah. In our in our

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neighborhood

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>> yeah um so I'm in a more uplash

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neighborhood I really surprised you.

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>> Um thank you. But I want to commend you

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on the work that you've done and how you

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support MIDI pen and this is really good

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to see that you know your presentation.

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>> Yeah. I I just want to say that I think

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we on the board have the easy part and

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it's it's our staff members who are are

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doing hard work. So I I really

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appreciate them.

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>> Well, we and the city council have the

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same thing. We know who does the work

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for staff. So hope we resumple that.

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>> Um,

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>> yes, please.

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>> A couple of quick questions. I did ask a

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bunch of questions. I'm very interested

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in mid pen. Uh, the highway 17

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overcrossing I

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over one for the humans.

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>> Oh, okay.

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>> Um, did you mention when will that one

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expected to be finished?

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>> Our our goal is to treat those as the

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two as one project. um because there's a huge savings

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um in in dollars if we can do those two

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projects uh sort of as as one. So um

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this has to be uh worked out

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[clears throat] with I I think VTA is

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the lead agency and you know PALR is

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involved. So um it's a fairly complex

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thing but our goal is is to sort of do

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that in one shot. Um and then there are

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other parts of it as well. For example,

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building the trail up into Elseno. So

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the our trail crews marching orders are

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to make sure that that's done by the

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time the overcrossing is done so that

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people have someplace to go.

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>> So it sounds like it's not approved and

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all of that yet. So it could be quite a

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few years before we actually see it. Is

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that what I'm hearing you say?

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>> You want to speak to this?

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>> I I I think I would say we have all the

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approvals, but there's a funding gap.

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Um, and so we're going to be ready to

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break ground by the end of the year. And

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so it's really far along. It's just

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about filling that funding gap. So the

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overcrossing and the undercrossing can

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be completed simultaneously as you

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suggested, but our trail crew is already

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out building trails on the other side of

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where it will go. So things are already

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in motion.

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>> Okay. And then just another quick one.

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Um, I'm actually looking at one of the

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slides and I don't think it came out the

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last slide. It looks like on the website

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we can see things, events on the event

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calendar. Is this where residents can

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actually go onto the website and sign up

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to go on a guided tour? So,

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>> that's right. There's an events and

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activities page. And yeah, I apologize

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for not floating through to that slide.

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Um, and if if you go there, you'll be

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able to search by different types of

542
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events, you know, whether they're

543
00:23:11,919 --> 00:23:14,880
volunteer events or doentled hikes. Uh

544
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,640
many of the dos doesn't let hikes do not

545
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,280
require a sign up. You can just show up

546
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,720
and then there are certain ones that

547
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,039
might have limited parking or other

548
00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:25,039
considerations where they do ask for a

549
00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:25,679
sign up.

550
00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:27,440
>> Gotcha. Okay. Wonderful. Thank you very

551
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:27,919
much.

552
00:23:27,919 --> 00:23:30,480
>> Okay. Well, thank you both again. Uh we

553
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,120
really appreciate it.

554
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,280
>> Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

555
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,159
>> Thank you.

556
00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:36,159
>> I'll follow up with more information.

557
00:23:36,159 --> 00:23:37,039
>> Great. Thank you.

558
00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:39,440
>> The next item on the agenda is all

559
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,720
communications. Is there anybody uh here

560
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,960
in chambers who wants to comment on

561
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,960
anything that is not on the agenda?

562
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,640
See no hands. Madam city clerk,

563
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,679
>> hands are raised.

564
00:23:53,679 --> 00:23:56,559
>> Okay. And written communications. I

565
00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:58,080
think madam city clerk you've already

566
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,080
distributed to members of the

567
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,240
>> everything that we've received um has

568
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,400
been mailing for an item that is um and

569
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,919
everything has been posted on our

570
00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:09,840
website as well as distributed a copy

571
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,960
for each of you to review

572
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,760
>> uh the consent calendar I think council

573
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,760
member Craig you said you wanted to

574
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,159
remove an item from the Yeah I wanted to

575
00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:25,279
remove the the warrant list item three does anybody wish to remove

576
00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:26,480
item

577
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,120
uh do which is of the approval for the

578
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,960
last minutes. If [clears throat] not,

579
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,640
I'd ask for a motion to approve that. M

580
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,520
vice mayor, you

581
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:43,360
may make a motion to approve item two on

582
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:44,559
the consent calendar.

583
00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:46,720
>> Second,

584
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,840
Matt, city attorney, a voice vote or a

585
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,559
roll call?

586
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:51,440
>> Voice.

587
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,559
>> All in favor of approving item two. Hi.

588
00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:57,120
I think it's unanimous. Okay. Uh,

589
00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:58,880
council member Craig on the warrant

590
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,000
list. Uh,

591
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,919
>> so I I just had a quick question. I

592
00:25:01,919 --> 00:25:04,640
noticed that there was a lot of letters

593
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,240
missing between the words. I think

594
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,159
Council Member Machuk explained to me

595
00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:10,400
before the meeting that some sometimes

596
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,880
that can be an issue with our system.

597
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,960
>> So, um, Vice Mayor Shannon pointed this

598
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,480
out to me yesterday. um the PDF file

599
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,760
that was created and then uploaded into

600
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,080
our agenda system

601
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,760
reads clearly. So it was some error

602
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,600
message or error happening with our

603
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,080
agenda system and so we will follow up

604
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:32,880
with our vendor.

605
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,960
>> Oh, okay. Great. And from what I could

606
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,200
pick out, one of the one of the charges

607
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,679
on the uh on the warrant list was a

608
00:25:41,679 --> 00:25:43,760
annual license for our watch guard

609
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,679
firewall system. Is that correct?

610
00:25:45,679 --> 00:25:48,799
>> Yes. So that is um a security measure

611
00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:51,520
that we recently implemented and that

612
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,520
was due to recommendations from our

613
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,360
insurance company from a cyber security

614
00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:58,000
audit that they performed for us.

615
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,320
>> Okay. All right. Very good. Thank you.

616
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,000
Uh

617
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,400
would you now like to make a motion to

618
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,039
adopt it? Uh with that explanation given

619
00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:12,159
I would like to um move that we approve

620
00:26:12,159 --> 00:26:15,120
item three the warrant list. Is there a

621
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:16,720
second? Second.

622
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,600
>> Okay. Again, just a voice. All in favor?

623
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,279
>> I.

624
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:24,799
>> Okay. Um I show we have nothing under

625
00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:28,320
public hearings, nothing under

626
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,039
unfinished business, new business. Uh

627
00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:33,919
item four is to discuss a climate

628
00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:36,559
resilience district. I'm Steve Manager.

629
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:38,480
Are you giving a presentation on that?

630
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,799
>> Can give a brief introduction. Yes.

631
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:43,919
Thank you. Um, a climate resilience

632
00:26:43,919 --> 00:26:46,240
district is a separate public agency

633
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,000
that may be established by a city or

634
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480
county to fund and implement projects

635
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,039
intended to improve climate resilience,

636
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:55,760
mitigation, and adaptation.

637
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,000
Unlike traditional city departments or

638
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,440
special programs, a CRD operates as a

639
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,520
separate government entity and with its

640
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,760
own governing board, budget, reporting

641
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,039
requirements, and financial

642
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:11,360
responsibilities similar to um JPA's um

643
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:14,400
that the city is involved in. And um

644
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,400
attachment one to the staff report is a

645
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,840
white paper that was prepared by the

646
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,960
city of Saratoga and provides um a lot

647
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,520
of information on the formation of a

648
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,880
CRD, its governance, funding mechanisms,

649
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,559
and potential implementation

650
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:30,400
considerations.

651
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,880
And we are honored tonight to have

652
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,880
Saratoga Native Chuck Page here to

653
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,760
provide presentation with some more

654
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,279
details and information on climate

655
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:45,990
resilience districts.

656
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,520
We're delighted to have you here.

657
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,039
>> Well, thank you, mayor, vice mayor, and

658
00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:50,559
members of the council. It's my honor to

659
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:53,360
be here. Um, I got involved in climate

660
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:55,360
resilience districts when they first

661
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:58,720
came out in 2022. Um, back in 2019 and

662
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,039
2020, I led a wildfire public safety

663
00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:03,360
task force in Saratoga. Learned more

664
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,520
about fire than than I think uh I ever

665
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,640
would have learned unless I was a

666
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,799
fireman. And uh and and they're

667
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:11,760
disastrous as we know. And so I've been

668
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,279
constantly paying attention to the

669
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:15,039
changes in the industry, the changes in

670
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:17,360
law to see what it is we can do to help

671
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:18,960
better protect us. And and the climate

672
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,679
resilience district appears to me and a

673
00:28:21,679 --> 00:28:22,960
bunch of people that I've talked to,

674
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,240
including the town manager in Los

675
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,200
Moscatus and uh wildfire task force that

676
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,360
the may the mayor Hudas had going last

677
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:32,080
year that continues. Um it seems to be

678
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,240
one of the key mechanisms to allow us to

679
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,399
be able to do some things. So I got a

680
00:28:36,399 --> 00:28:38,960
short presentation. It'll be as long as

681
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,480
uh as long as you guys want it to be.

682
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,159
I'm I'll answer any question that I can

683
00:28:42,159 --> 00:28:44,720
within the reign of what I know. Um

684
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,039
which in the scope of government stuff

685
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:49,039
is probably very minimal because it'll

686
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:51,760
change tomorrow. So um anyway, if you

687
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,000
could go to the next slide. Uh climate

688
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,880
resilience district is essentially a

689
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,440
special district as explained um that

690
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,720
was designated by the state in 2022. Um

691
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,919
it provides for uh the opportunity to

692
00:29:05,919 --> 00:29:09,120
raise money to do the mitigation of

693
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,120
things that are caused by climate

694
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,120
change. So it could be wildfire, floods,

695
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,679
sea level rise, a whole bunch of things.

696
00:29:15,679 --> 00:29:17,279
You you name it, you could probably fit

697
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:23,039
it into there. Um it also came with a change to the funding, but it is

698
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:25,200
not a project. It is it is the purpose

699
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,440
is it create a a dedicated funding

700
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,440
mechanism to invest in long-term um

701
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,679
climate resilience. So we go to the next

702
00:29:33,679 --> 00:29:36,720
slide. Um what can it fund? Well, it can

703
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,720
fund a whole lot of things. So we I

704
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,200
listed a few here. Uh wildfire fuel

705
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,960
reduction. It could it could do home

706
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,960
hardening projects. You could do

707
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,880
evacuation room improvements, backup

708
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,760
power for critical facilities. Um,

709
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,159
anything that we that you can actually

710
00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:54,880
allocate or or justify as being caused

711
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,960
by climate change, you could probably

712
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,520
fit it in here. It's very wide open. Uh,

713
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,679
this the state as most of the laws they

714
00:30:01,679 --> 00:30:03,279
passed, well, except for the housing

715
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:05,600
ones, of course, they uh they're kind of

716
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,919
wide open. And so, this one is also wide

717
00:30:07,919 --> 00:30:10,480
open. So, these are a few of the things.

718
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,520
Um, just listed a few to uh try to give

719
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,440
you an idea of the things that that it

720
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,000
could could be used for. If we go to the

721
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,679
next one.

722
00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:22,080
So how does it work? So the first thing

723
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,159
that happens is it's it's formed by one

724
00:30:24,159 --> 00:30:26,480
or more public agencies.

725
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,960
This could be formed by a city. Uh you

726
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,559
could have the Monosino climate

727
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:32,320
resilience district and then say

728
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,159
Saratoga does it and then Los Scatos

729
00:30:34,159 --> 00:30:35,840
does it and then you all decide hey you

730
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,919
know what wildfire doesn't give a darn

731
00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:40,159
about the city limits. So let's merge

732
00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:42,320
these together. And there may be reasons

733
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,159
for that. There may not be. And I'm

734
00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:45,360
going to go through an example of how

735
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,200
you might create one and talk a little

736
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,000
bit about how I think ideally it would

737
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,840
work in our communities knowing some

738
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,080
things about our budgets and how much

739
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,679
money we have to spend which I don't

740
00:30:55,679 --> 00:30:57,279
know about you but I don't have very

741
00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:00,000
much. So we we need to find funding

742
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,640
mechanisms that'll work. Um but the

743
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,240
things that they talked about that we

744
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,520
could we could have an assessment

745
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,200
district so the property owners within

746
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,440
the district could contribute. Um we can

747
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,679
go out for grants so you could go to

748
00:31:11,679 --> 00:31:13,600
state or federal grants. One of the

749
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,360
things I like about a climate resilience

750
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,360
district is that it doesn't say doesn't

751
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,200
have to say Monosino on it. Monosino,

752
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,240
Saratoga, Certino, and Los Altos Hills,

753
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,080
for example, as you know, were singled

754
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,799
out when Prop 13 went in place. And up

755
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:30,640
until 2014, we only got three and a

756
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,240
half% of the property taxes that were

757
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,159
generated. line. You remember this from

758
00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:36,240
your time or some of you may or may

759
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,360
remember that uh 2014 finally got Jim to

760
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,120
do a bill that wasn't just singling us

761
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,880
out and saying, "Hey, we need to get

762
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,440
more." But it was that everybody should

763
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,726
be treated the same, which

764
00:31:46,726 --> 00:31:47,919
[clears throat] is how it should be. So

765
00:31:47,919 --> 00:31:48,480
now we're

766
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,679
>> What a crazy thought.

767
00:31:49,679 --> 00:31:51,600
>> Yeah, I know. Exactly. So we now worked

768
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,320
our way back up to the 6 whatever

769
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,320
percent it is of property taxes, which

770
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,080
still isn't a whole heck of a lot as you

771
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,480
know. We've got roads and I don't know

772
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,760
what parks you've got, but you've got

773
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,440
the facilities here. You've got lots of

774
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,279
things to spend it on. We've got that

775
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:07,600
much and then some. So, it's uh it's

776
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,840
difficult at best. Um you could form

777
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,919
public and part public uh private

778
00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:14,480
partnerships to get things done. You can

779
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,240
go out to the voters and get a bond

780
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,679
measure. You could do um a tax increment

781
00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:21,360
financing, which is the one thing they

782
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,200
added for this that is kind of unique. a

783
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,440
tax the tax increment funding would be

784
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,960
to me that's not something you do right

785
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,320
away and I'll talk about that in the

786
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,720
next slide but um it's something that

787
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,399
says okay when you form the district or

788
00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:36,720
at some date and time you take a

789
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,720
snapshot of the property taxes of the

790
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,120
people within this district so say the district was your wooi for example

791
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,360
so that's the severe you know the the

792
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,200
very high high moderate and then the

793
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,320
wooi wrapped around the fire fire areas

794
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,279
and you say okay let's take the property

795
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:55,279
uh what what the the property taxes are

796
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:57,679
from that that section.

797
00:32:57,679 --> 00:33:00,240
We're going to take 2% of the increases

798
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,080
from now on and we're going to put it

799
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,000
into the district. And you could do

800
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,679
that. Now, again, I don't recommend that be the first thing we do because

801
00:33:07,679 --> 00:33:09,279
we're still trying to catch up with the

802
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:10,880
stuff the state's slapping at us and

803
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,080
it's it's kind of difficult to do. Um,

804
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,039
but the CRD itself does not create a tax

805
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,240
at all any way, shape, or form. There

806
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,000
are some expenses that go along with it,

807
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,919
especially for staff, as I'll talk about

808
00:33:23,919 --> 00:33:26,720
in the next slide. But anything, any

809
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,200
assessments, any taxes would have to

810
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,720
come from the way that the state

811
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,039
requires it, which as we know is a vote

812
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:35,679
of the people. And if they would approve

813
00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:38,000
it, then we could go and either do a

814
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,799
property tax or an assessment or a, you

815
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:45,840
know, sales tax increase, whatever, method you decide to use. Um,

816
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,919
so it's um it's interesting. Any

817
00:33:47,919 --> 00:33:49,200
questions so far? because I'm going to

818
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,960
get into some some meat in a minute.

819
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,519
>> Do you have examples of CRDs that have

820
00:33:57,519 --> 00:33:58,880
been created?

821
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,720
>> There is one CRD in the state of

822
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,200
California and it was not created. It

823
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,000
was grandfathered in. So, nobody in the

824
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,560
state has done this yet. Englewood,

825
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,399
California, down south in LA, uh they

826
00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:14,639
have an intent to form a climate

827
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,520
resilience district. Um, and there's a

828
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,359
couple other entities in the LA area.

829
00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:21,119
There are some entities down in very

830
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:23,359
southern California that have also said

831
00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:24,480
they're going to do it. I don't think

832
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,079
anyone has passed the resolution of

833
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:29,119
intent to to form one yet. Um, when I

834
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,040
looked at what LA was trying to do and

835
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,119
Englewood specifically.

836
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:35,440
To me, it's it's very very narrow and I

837
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,520
don't I don't know if it'll actually

838
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,639
ever fly, but it's um it's a

839
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:42,480
possibility. But right now there's one

840
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,720
in Soma and it was grandfathered in when

841
00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:46,480
the bill was created. So they haven't

842
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,200
gone through this process.

843
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,200
>> Okay. So my as you said um fire is

844
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,440
another thing to note

845
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,800
respect geographical or jurisdictional

846
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,829
boundaries as

847
00:35:01,839 --> 00:35:05,119
former mayors know once a month the fine

848
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:07,520
west valley cities get together with the

849
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,079
mayors and managers. If we are to look

850
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:13,760
into this rather than municipality by

851
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,520
municipality

852
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,200
as [clears throat] the five West Valley

853
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,480
cities work together by so many things,

854
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,640
wouldn't you recommend that that

855
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,400
we [clears throat] look into this as a

856
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,440
group rather than separately, separate

857
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,480
municipalities?

858
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,880
>> Personally, I do not I do not recommend

859
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,200
that.

860
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:33,599
>> Okay?

861
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:36,320
>> And and I'll talk a little bit about it

862
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,640
in in a couple of slides, but okay. The

863
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,079
reason is that locally,

864
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:43,680
if we've got funding for something

865
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,920
locally, we can decide what to do with

866
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,760
it locally. And by locally, I mean the

867
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,320
people that live in the district. Okay?

868
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,200
If I'm doing a if I'm doing a CRD with

869
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,720
Loscatos, Monosino, um parts of Certino,

870
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:58,640
Loscatos, uh you know, if there's some

871
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,480
entity, Los Altos Hills wants to be in

872
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,240
it. The unincorporated county wants to

873
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,320
be in it. Everybody's got their pet

874
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,920
project. Okay. in Monoserino might be

875
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,280
well we want the money to go to the

876
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,040
eucalyptus take down the eucalyptus

877
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,280
trees on highway 9 in Saratoga it might

878
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,320
be you know we want to cut the

879
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,119
vegetation on our evacuation routes so

880
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:19,359
they could be competing and I think if

881
00:36:19,359 --> 00:36:22,320
you do it locally meaning city by city

882
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,680
and you have the people within the

883
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,160
district make that decision you've got a

884
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,119
lot better ability to a have personal

885
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:31,520
responsibility in what goes on and and

886
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,760
you set your own parameters for for the

887
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,119
priority so That's personal opinion.

888
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:39,440
Humbly my personal opinion.

889
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,000
>> Yeah.

890
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,680
>> One more. The the CRD has physical

891
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,480
boundaries.

892
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,240
>> Correct. When you form it, you form it

893
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:49,599
with a physical boundary.

894
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,320
>> Okay. And just because it's the city of

895
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,280
Monty Serino doesn't mean it's it's our

896
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,880
city. It could be those properties south

897
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,280
of Highway 9.

898
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,800
>> You you might define it. I mean

899
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,160
certainly you couldn't go beyond your

900
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,599
city and include stuff unless you

901
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:08,160
included that government agency as part

902
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,440
of the governing board. Um so you might

903
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,280
like for example in Saratoga my

904
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,839
suggestion is that we do the WOOI. Okay.

905
00:37:15,839 --> 00:37:18,480
The WOOI includes the very high high and

906
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,880
moderate fire hazard zones and the

907
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,960
wildland urban interface that's

908
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,520
including and around it. That makes the

909
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,200
most sense to me because those are the

910
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,640
folks most at risk of a wildfire and of

911
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,240
the subsequent flood that happens after

912
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:34,480
the wildfire and the rains come and the

913
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,000
ground doesn't catch the rain. So it

914
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,320
forms well whatever it forms and then it

915
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,776
catches some mud and feet down the

916
00:37:39,776 --> 00:37:41,200
[clears throat] hill and all of a sudden

917
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,520
your house is you know knee deep in mud

918
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,800
or worse and that would be a flood. So

919
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,560
you could protect against that you know

920
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,079
you do things to to try to protect

921
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:52,240
against it. So that's again

922
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,720
>> no my thought. Well, thank you. Thank

923
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:55,040
you.

924
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,839
>> Okay, so the next I I put it to this

925
00:37:57,839 --> 00:37:59,440
slide. It shows the benefits and

926
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,040
considerations just some of them. I

927
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,720
mean, obviously there's a million

928
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:04,720
different ways, but I looked at okay,

929
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:07,200
it's a dedicated funding source, but you

930
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,880
got to consider it. It takes some time.

931
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,760
When I presented this to my council and

932
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,280
we had a couple of discussions about it,

933
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,720
I said, you know, the thing is this

934
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,560
isn't a one-year project. It's probably

935
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,240
not a three-year. It's maybe not a

936
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:19,839
fiveyear or a nine-year. It might be a

937
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:22,000
10-year project. It's going to outlast

938
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,440
me on the council for darn sure.

939
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,680
>> Everything's going to unlatch because

940
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,119
we're done at the end of this year.

941
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:31,040
>> Yeah, that's not going to happen. But

942
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,760
the thing is, if we don't start at some

943
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,760
point, we'll never get it.

944
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,920
>> And and this kind of thing happens when

945
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,480
somebody gets the I hate to say the

946
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,880
word, but the fire inside and says we

947
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,560
got to do something and tries to lead

948
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,800
it. If people choose not to, then then

949
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,079
we'll end up, you know, having the

950
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:49,599
discussion maybe over time, but nothing

951
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:51,440
will happen. So, I don't want to end up

952
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,160
seeing Saratoga, for example, in six

953
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,160
years with a burned out hillside because

954
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,240
we did I mean, we're doing a lot. We're

955
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:00,880
now a fire we since 2024, we're a fire

956
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,480
risk reduction community in the state of

957
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,240
California, one of only 11 in 2024. Uh

958
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,079
the only one in Santa CL County. This

959
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:10,320
year, Loscatus got it too. So, there are

960
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,119
two. Um that gives people an advantage

961
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,680
on insurance and and discounts if you

962
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,280
got the fair plan. So, different things

963
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,760
can happen. But we started doing things

964
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,359
and this would put more attention on

965
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:23,440
that and provide some funding for it. So

966
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,599
let me go through. So you know the

967
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:27,599
benefits access to grant supports short

968
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:30,240
and long-term resilience. Um it can

969
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:31,920
leverage outside funding which I think

970
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,480
is really really key. And then your

971
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,800
>> issue uni bonds

972
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,640
>> if and again that would be a vote.

973
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,040
>> Yeah. Right. Right. But but mechanically

974
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,440
is

975
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,280
>> it could the possibility is there to do

976
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,119
that? Absolutely.

977
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:48,079
Again, the mechanisms or the the the

978
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,960
vehicles to fund it are up to the to the

979
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,119
board essentially. And I'll go through a

980
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:55,359
scenario of how I I would recommend it

981
00:39:55,359 --> 00:39:57,359
be done. Uh because I think that the

982
00:39:57,359 --> 00:39:59,040
people that live in it have to have the

983
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,200
most vested interest. And if they set

984
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,880
the priorities and they determine the

985
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,240
projects, the things that the money will

986
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:07,119
be spent on, it's probably much more

987
00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:10,000
likely to go. I personally, when

988
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,119
somebody says, "Hi, I'm from the

989
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:12,960
government. I'm here to help. I'm

990
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,320
curious about which part of my bank

991
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,240
account's going to get affected next. I

992
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:18,720
just I'm sorry. It's the truth, you

993
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:20,880
know. Um I've been on the government for

994
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,480
in the government for a long time. It

995
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,200
took me many years of being, you know,

996
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,160
somebody would say, "Well, you're a

997
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,920
politician." And and it took me many

998
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,680
years before I stopped cringing when I

999
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,520
heard that, you know, now I accept it.

1000
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,680
It's like, okay, I guess I am. Um but to

1001
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,200
me that just means we work together to

1002
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,520
solve problems. And so that's what, you

1003
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,680
know, to me this is it's a way to work

1004
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,320
together to solve a problem. So I think

1005
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,680
the next one is my scenario. So here's a

1006
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,119
startup scenario that is how I think it

1007
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:51,119
would work best in Saratoga. It may or

1008
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:52,560
may not work for your city. There are

1009
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,560
lots of ways to do it. So the first

1010
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,200
thing is that the governing body creates

1011
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,119
a CRD. Um first there' be a a resolution

1012
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:02,800
of intent to form and then you form it

1013
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,240
and there's planning that goes on and

1014
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,560
I'm glossing over all the dirty steps

1015
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,880
that staff would have to go through and

1016
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,800
whatever consultants you might need.

1017
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,200
What it really takes is a whole lot of

1018
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,040
marketing, if you will, engagement with

1019
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,359
the community. Um, getting out, doing

1020
00:41:17,359 --> 00:41:19,280
town halls, meeting in neighborhoods,

1021
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,119
getting, if you've got fire wise

1022
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:22,480
communities, those are the natural

1023
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,920
places start because the folks are

1024
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,359
paying attention to it. If you don't

1025
00:41:25,359 --> 00:41:27,520
have some firewise communities, start to

1026
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,520
work on that. That neighborhood is going

1027
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,599
to be your nucleus. And when I've talked

1028
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:33,200
to people that live in the hillsides in

1029
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,079
Saratoga, and Saratoga is very anti-ax.

1030
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:39,280
I mean, we you do any kind of a a survey

1031
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,240
of folks um

1032
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:41,680
>> unlike any other community.

1033
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,119
>> Yeah, we don't know any of them around

1034
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:45,359
here. But, um you know, so to say, hey,

1035
00:41:45,359 --> 00:41:47,200
we're going to do a property tax to

1036
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,440
solve XYZ, the answer is going to be a

1037
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,119
big fat no.

1038
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:52,720
>> But I think that the people within this

1039
00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:54,640
district have a vested interest and if

1040
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,880
personal responsibility means anything,

1041
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,960
they will actually help. So, so the

1042
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,240
first thing that happens, I think

1043
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:01,119
there's a question here.

1044
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:03,680
>> Oh, sorry. Um

1045
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,560
if there's a path going forward and it

1046
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,319
hasn't been done before in the state of

1047
00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:10,960
California per se by starting from zero

1048
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,839
>> y

1049
00:42:11,839 --> 00:42:16,800
>> then if you blaze the trail then can

1050
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,920
others then we could leverage off that

1051
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:20,480
>> absolutely

1052
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,480
>> imitation is the highest absolutely

1053
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,200
flattery right

1054
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,480
>> there is something

1055
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,240
>> search and replace city of Sarah

1056
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,000
Saratoga to Monty

1057
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,000
>> we could certainly do that um you might

1058
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,520
want to change the boundaries a bit but

1059
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,760
Um, yeah. I think it wouldn't offend us

1060
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,599
if you went first drunk. Is that what

1061
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:36,000
you're saying,

1062
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,680
>> Brian? And, and I got no problem with

1063
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,359
that. I just have to get

1064
00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:41,359
>> two other council members, too. Okay.

1065
00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:42,160
So, it's like

1066
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,839
>> you have to count to three.

1067
00:42:43,839 --> 00:42:45,119
>> That's the, you know, one of the key

1068
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:46,480
things you learn when you're a council

1069
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,760
member. You got to know one. That's what

1070
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,119
it takes to get a thing on your agenda,

1071
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:50,319
and you got to know two because that's

1072
00:42:50,319 --> 00:42:51,839
what it takes to get it passed along if

1073
00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:52,960
you're voting that way. Yeah.

1074
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,000
>> So, absolutely. Thank you. Um so the

1075
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,520
first thing that happens is the board is

1076
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,520
formed and the board consists of three

1077
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,119
members of the governing body that

1078
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:03,440
created the district. So in this case it

1079
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,440
would be three members of the council

1080
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,760
and two members of the public. Now it's

1081
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,000
very loosely defined as how you pick

1082
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,119
those people but there there are lots of

1083
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:14,720
methodologies and things that could be

1084
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,720
used. I personally would probably think

1085
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:18,160
we'd want to get people that lived in

1086
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,000
the district. That might be that might

1087
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,720
make a lot of sense. I think we should

1088
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:24,880
go one step further. Like in Saratoga, I

1089
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,040
would propose that we form a climate

1090
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,119
resilience commission and that would be

1091
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:31,200
five to seven people that actually live

1092
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,880
within the WOOI. Their job would be to

1093
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,560
define the projects that any funding

1094
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,680
that comes in will be allocated to. What

1095
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,920
are the priorities of the projects that

1096
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,160
we want to do? And then go through the

1097
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,160
actual process of, you know, might be

1098
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,839
grant writing. might be how do they how

1099
00:43:47,839 --> 00:43:51,920
do we go out and search for somebody to do the consulting or to do the

1100
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,480
creation of the grant request all kinds

1101
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,000
of stuff and of course your governing

1102
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,240
body would then be the entity that would

1103
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,000
make the decisions upon your that that

1104
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,079
commission's recommendation. So it's

1105
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:04,640
just my way of saying we need to have

1106
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,640
the people that live there be really

1107
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,599
involved. I think at least in my town

1108
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,599
that's what we need. we really need them

1109
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:12,880
because they're they're the ones that

1110
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,240
are going to otherwise they're going to

1111
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:16,160
say man the government's doing it to us

1112
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,880
again and I don't ever want to see that.

1113
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,440
Um so as I said the commission

1114
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,280
identifies the projects and you know in

1115
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,040
Saratoga these are the things that come

1116
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,880
out the most frequently. One is the

1117
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,359
evacuation route vegetation clearing. I

1118
00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:30,800
want to make sure that if we need to

1119
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,800
evacuate we can actually get out that

1120
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,440
road because there's only one. So or in

1121
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,599
some different areas there's one. Um,

1122
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:39,440
number two might be creating homeowner

1123
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,520
defensible space. Okay, so we got a

1124
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,960
grant program for people that need to

1125
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,040
clear out vegetation. Let's put it in

1126
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,880
place. And then number three could be

1127
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,440
home hardening. We just did a xyop plant

1128
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,200
study. Xylopan's a company that does

1129
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,680
these wildfire analysis.

1130
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,599
Thousands of scenarios of wildfires

1131
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:57,119
where they start in Saratoga, where they

1132
00:44:57,119 --> 00:45:00,319
travel to. It was discovered that if for

1133
00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:03,359
every home that is hardened, three homes

1134
00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:06,400
don't burn. For every one home that is

1135
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,200
hardened, three don't burn. Now, I'm not

1136
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,960
saying that you only go, okay, one, two,

1137
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,839
three, but that's a that's a great thing

1138
00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:15,920
to keep in mind. So, the home hardening

1139
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,760
I I think would want to be a part of

1140
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,920
this. Now, how you define who gets it

1141
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,160
and stuff, that's whatever your

1142
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,040
community decides. Um, and the funding

1143
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,560
plan is created. Now, the order of these

1144
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,760
things may vary, but personally, I think

1145
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,160
that the first funding should come from

1146
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,079
the community members, the people that

1147
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:36,480
live in the district. I have proposed

1148
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,240
that and and when I talk to people about

1149
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,400
it, I'm like, "Hey, would you be willing

1150
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:45,119
to pay $80 a month to raise money to

1151
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,440
protect your community, your the WOOI

1152
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,160
from wildfire?" And what is 80 bucks?

1153
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,200
Well, that's, you know, if I got a

1154
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,800
family of three that drink coffee,

1155
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,720
that's probably, you know, 10 less cups

1156
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:57,440
of coffee a week at whatever favorite

1157
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,240
Starbucks or coffee place I go to,

1158
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:01,680
right? That's not a whole heck of a lot

1159
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,160
of money. If I do that, that's a,000

1160
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,920
bucks a year from each household. In

1161
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,680
Saratoga, we have 2,000 homes in the

1162
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,960
wood. That's 2 million bucks. I now have

1163
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,040
some serious dollars to get this

1164
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,760
started. So, to me, that's the best way

1165
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,520
to do it. And that would, from what I

1166
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,000
understand, it's a Prop 218 protest

1167
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,240
vote. So it' be a letter would go out to

1168
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,280
all the people in the WOOI. Do you want

1169
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,720
this or not? Would you be willing to pay

1170
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:29,680
80 or not? It gets back. If it's 50% of

1171
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,160
the responses plus one, boom, on the

1172
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,640
property taxes next year, $1,000 is

1173
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,200
added. 500 bucks every six months or

1174
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,680
every time we got to pay that bill. You

1175
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,920
know what? Not such a bad deal. But not

1176
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,839
to increase property taxes that the

1177
00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:45,599
community did and it took a twothird

1178
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:47,440
vote as opposed to because we're

1179
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,440
thinking about one to pay for police

1180
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,680
services assuming the thing on the

1181
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,480
November ballot doesn't pass. So I'm

1182
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,319
interested in how you could increase

1183
00:46:56,319 --> 00:46:58,240
property taxes which is your

1184
00:46:58,240 --> 00:46:59,920
>> So this is an assessment district. It's

1185
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:01,280
actually not increasing their property

1186
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,720
taxes. They would pay it in their

1187
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:05,520
property taxes and it goes to the

1188
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,640
district. So, [clears throat] for

1189
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,480
example, in Saratoga, in a lot of our

1190
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,480
flatlands, we have what we call

1191
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,920
landscape and lighting districts.

1192
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,000
They're individual neighborhoods that

1193
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,240
have said, you know what, you know,

1194
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:17,599
getting three people out here to clean

1195
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:19,760
the entrance way and to butter up our,

1196
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,760
you know, entry sign and plant the

1197
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,520
perennials or the annuals that we plant

1198
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,880
all the time and try to come out and

1199
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,640
water it, it doesn't happen. People do

1200
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,839
it for about two weeks and then they

1201
00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:29,520
stop and everything's dead.

1202
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,400
>> Please help me.

1203
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,560
>> Yeah. Yeah. If if you say that that the

1204
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,560
city of Saratoga or the city minus

1205
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,800
Freedom is an assessment district

1206
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,640
itself,

1207
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,400
you could increase things with just a

1208
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,319
simple majority, not a two3 vote. I'm

1209
00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:43,760
looking at my majority.

1210
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,440
>> It's a little different, I think. But

1211
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,480
>> so there are under state law there the

1212
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,240
cities have the ability to create

1213
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:52,960
special districts or special areas and

1214
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,839
provide specific types of benefits to

1215
00:47:55,839 --> 00:48:00,319
those. We have in the past had two in

1216
00:48:00,319 --> 00:48:02,240
town. We had the Rose Andrews.

1217
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:04,560
>> So there's not going to be an answer for

1218
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,400
a partial tax for police service.

1219
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,040
>> Completely different.

1220
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,240
>> Right. Okay. Absolutely.

1221
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:12,160
>> And I'll please continue checking.

1222
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,400
>> I'm looking for a way to fund that. So

1223
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,599
>> absolutely. So to me that and and the

1224
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:19,920
people that I've spoke with, they they

1225
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,200
and and these are some of the people

1226
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,240
that I know are very anti most of the

1227
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:25,839
things we've asked for and they come

1228
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:27,119
down to the council meetings, they

1229
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:29,520
demand certain things. Everyone that

1230
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:34,000
I've talked to, they've been very pro very positive about this. It's like

1231
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,520
80 bucks. Yeah, I can do 80 bucks a

1232
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,920
month, no problem. I tell them it's 500

1233
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,400
bucks twice a year, but it they would do

1234
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,160
it and and they said they they believe

1235
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,920
in it. So, I think that we can make that

1236
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,280
happen, but it is a lot of community

1237
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,640
engagement to make that happen. Whether

1238
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,240
you get a consultant to do that or you

1239
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,640
try to do it, that's the key way of

1240
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,119
making that happen. Um, this group could

1241
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:55,680
also go out for state and local funding

1242
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,359
based on the people I've talked to at

1243
00:48:57,359 --> 00:48:58,960
the state, the federal government, fire

1244
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,400
environments, the people who have money

1245
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,559
that they're allocating to organizations

1246
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:05,200
that will do things to solve fire

1247
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,400
problems or prevent it. The first one

1248
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,400
that gets this district is going to get

1249
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,480
all the attention. and they got the best

1250
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,000
chance of getting that funding. So keep

1251
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,319
that in mind. Whoever's for, you can

1252
00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:19,760
absolutely let Saratoga go first.

1253
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,760
Whether it happen or not, I would

1254
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,640
suggest you think about it and if you if

1255
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,920
you got the burn, go for it. Um and I'll

1256
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,760
be glad to help you. So whatever I can do to have community

1257
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,839
meetings, whatever you need. Um

1258
00:49:33,839 --> 00:49:35,680
charitable contributions. I don't know

1259
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,599
if you you probably all remember and

1260
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:39,520
Aland does we've got a thing called the

1261
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,240
Saratoga Monosino Community Foundation.

1262
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:44,000
They were formed so that people could

1263
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,280
make contributions to a 501c3

1264
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,160
and then that organization will do

1265
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,040
grants to fund different things that the

1266
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,000
city needs to do. So um you know it

1267
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,599
can't be just a pass through. It's got

1268
00:49:57,599 --> 00:49:59,440
to be allocated and defined by the board

1269
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,280
and stuff. There's all rules about that

1270
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,720
which you know I'm not going to answer.

1271
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:04,640
Kristen might be able to. Is that

1272
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,240
dormant or is it still active?

1273
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:07,920
>> Still active. In fact, I'm using it

1274
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,640
right now. On Saturday, if you all want

1275
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,000
to come down to Wildwood Park in

1276
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,920
Saratoga, starting around noon, we're

1277
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,440
gonna have Saratoga's 70th birthday

1278
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:16,960
party. And as you guys just celebrated

1279
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,640
yours, so we're going to have our

1280
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,480
>> We're a year behind you. We're

1281
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:20,960
>> behind.

1282
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,599
>> Yeah. You were 57. 57. Okay. But we're

1283
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:26,000
saving energy for Sunday for our annual

1284
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:26,480
picnic.

1285
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,160
>> Oh, there. Well, that's cool. But if you

1286
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,599
want to come and dance a bit to get your

1287
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:31,359
kinks out and get the butterflies out,

1288
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:33,119
come down to Wildwood Park at noon on

1289
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:36,319
Saturday. Um, and then long-term to me

1290
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:38,880
the carrot here is if we raise this

1291
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,839
money and we smartly execute and use

1292
00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:44,240
that money effectively, then you've got

1293
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:46,880
the carrot of the tax increment funding

1294
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,720
that can say, you know, if the city gets

1295
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:50,640
whole with the taxes we've got and we

1296
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,000
don't get too many more unfunded

1297
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,800
mandates,

1298
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,280
then perhaps that's a way to help fund

1299
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,200
it. Um, there are other ways. There

1300
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,599
could be districts that go away that are

1301
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:03,200
currently funded by something else and

1302
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,200
we can move the money in. Um there

1303
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,119
there's lots of different ways to do it.

1304
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:09,920
These are just some that I've thought

1305
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,240
about that that may work in my community

1306
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:14,079
and maybe will work in yours. That's

1307
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:14,720
all.

1308
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:15,760
>> Yes.

1309
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,960
>> One of the benefits would be the

1310
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,440
reduction or the ability to get

1311
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,119
insurance now.

1312
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:26,880
>> Could be. And I mean that's that makes

1313
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,670
the $1,000 a year kind of

1314
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:29,680
[clears throat]

1315
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,079
>> Yes. Now there's no guarantee. Um,

1316
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:32,960
>> of course not.

1317
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,040
>> I've I've been having some very lengthy

1318
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,559
in fact I just this afternoon I had a

1319
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:38,240
lengthy conversation with Sam Licardo

1320
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:39,680
who's got a program. He's trying to work

1321
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,160
with a couple of insurance companies to

1322
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,839
say yeah we'll give discounted rates if

1323
00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:45,839
we can get two to two to 300 people or

1324
00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:48,400
two to 500 I think is the number he used

1325
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,720
uh of people within a given area to

1326
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:54,319
harden their homes. Okay, I'm paying

1327
00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:58,640
$10,000 a year for my my home insurance.

1328
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,599
Um, you're going to give me 10% off if I

1329
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:03,520
spend $30,000 this year on home

1330
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,119
hardening.

1331
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:07,920
Okay, you got to define what needs to be

1332
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,440
done. It's not just about the first

1333
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,599
thing in front of you. The the discount

1334
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:13,440
sounds great, but there's something

1335
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,200
behind it. I got to do something to make

1336
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,520
that happen. So, I think there's a

1337
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,040
reality check. And Sam and I were

1338
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,240
talking. He goes, "Chuck, what about the

1339
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:21,680
brokers? What about agents like you?"

1340
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,880
It's like, dude, I get the fair plan is

1341
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,079
cutting their commissions on new

1342
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:29,359
business from 10% to 7%, I think, and on

1343
00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:32,319
renewal business to 3%. I'm I'm not

1344
00:52:32,319 --> 00:52:36,559
making that much. I And what is my $75

1345
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:39,760
going to do to your $10,000 charge? It

1346
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,880
It's nothing. So, yes, we could all

1347
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,599
share in this, but the homeowner at the

1348
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:47,680
end of the day has to decide, yeah, I'm

1349
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,200
going to spend 30 grand to harden my

1350
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,839
home, and I don't know how many of them

1351
00:52:51,839 --> 00:52:53,359
will.

1352
00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:55,760
That's that's the reality, you know. So,

1353
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,839
we've got we got work to do in that

1354
00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:00,720
area. So, that's kind of a scenario that

1355
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:04,319
I I think would ultimately work. And and

1356
00:53:04,319 --> 00:53:05,920
the way that the reason I talked about

1357
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,359
just the city itself at first is because

1358
00:53:09,359 --> 00:53:12,000
you the people that live in that CRD are

1359
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,960
the ones defining where the money goes.

1360
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,520
And who better to do that and control

1361
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,440
those funds than the people that live

1362
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,839
there. The larger you make it, the more

1363
00:53:21,839 --> 00:53:23,520
diverse it gets, the more dispersed it

1364
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:24,880
gets. Like diverse is not the right

1365
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,200
word,

1366
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:25,839
>> right?

1367
00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:28,160
>> But you know, all of a sudden you got,

1368
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,880
you know, Certino weighing in on where

1369
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,200
all the money in the district's going. I

1370
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,880
don't know. I don't know if the if the

1371
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,640
Monerinans will think that's a good

1372
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,559
thing. I I I don't know. Maybe it is

1373
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:39,920
because they've got the right thing in

1374
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,119
mind. Um

1375
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:44,720
>> even though we really like Katie more,

1376
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:46,400
>> long as there's AI, we we like that.

1377
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,240
It's all good. It's all good. It's all

1378
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:50,800
good. Um so, so that's why I think that

1379
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,200
locally is better. Now, if it makes

1380
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,480
sense at some point to merge the CRDs,

1381
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,280
then let's do it. But I think start off

1382
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,160
it's better locally.

1383
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,800
>> I can't. We we've all had a lot of

1384
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,040
experience who've been on the council

1385
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,440
for years with joint powers authority.

1386
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:07,839
>> Oh yeah.

1387
00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:10,400
>> I take your point about priorities which

1388
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,480
I hadn't thought of. So thank you. I I

1389
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:13,440
got that now.

1390
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,359
>> Yeah. [clears throat] So I just got one

1391
00:54:15,359 --> 00:54:17,280
more slide and it's basically just a

1392
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,880
summary. This is not a project. It is a

1393
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,319
tool. And it's a it's a tool that here

1394
00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:26,319
before no one has used in the state of

1395
00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:27,839
California. The one that's been

1396
00:54:27,839 --> 00:54:29,520
grandfathered and I don't count them.

1397
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,960
They didn't have to go through the work.

1398
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,160
They didn't have the the funding

1399
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,400
mechanisms. We are going to create all

1400
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,240
that. But I really believe that

1401
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:40,000
whoever's first is going to, you know,

1402
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,800
when when Saratoga was out for a grant,

1403
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,862
they look at it and they say,

1404
00:54:44,862 --> 00:54:46,240
[clears throat] not that rich city of

1405
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:49,200
Saratoga, so they don't have areas of

1406
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:54,240
need, o areas of opportunity. So we're not going to fund that one. We're

1407
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:56,160
going to fund Turlock before we do that.

1408
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,119
>> We've heard that too.

1409
00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:59,920
>> Right. It it happens. And so to me, you

1410
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:04,559
know, the the Elserino, whatever, you want to call it, you know,

1411
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:07,520
call this climate resilience district,

1412
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,760
that's got that certainly garnered some

1413
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,599
attention from some folks who might not

1414
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:13,520
otherwise have paid attention. And

1415
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,648
that's personal opinion. I may

1416
00:55:15,648 --> 00:55:17,680
[clears throat] be wrong, but after

1417
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,599
talking enough people, I think it's

1418
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:21,599
probably more accurate than not.

1419
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:23,440
>> Okay. [clears throat] Before I open it

1420
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,760
up to uh the council chambers for

1421
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,480
questions, any of my colleagues have any

1422
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,079
questions I'd like to ask of

1423
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:32,559
>> just a comment. Just first of all, thank

1424
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:35,760
you so much. This is amazing.

1425
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,200
>> Uh and I've heard about climate

1426
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,079
resilience districts ever since I got

1427
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:41,760
involved with the what is it called?

1428
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,319
West Valley Wildfire Council. I think

1429
00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:45,839
>> the mayor's Yeah.

1430
00:55:45,839 --> 00:55:49,040
>> Um and what I like about this is it

1431
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,280
makes our community safer.

1432
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,720
It engages people and flexibility of

1433
00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:59,040
funding and we could focus on wois or

1434
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,359
areas that you know whatever are area we

1435
00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:03,359
want. So there's so so there's great you

1436
00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:06,079
know there's great opportunity to focus

1437
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:08,640
and I think it's a terrific idea and I'd

1438
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,160
love to be the first one state of

1439
00:56:10,160 --> 00:57:33,510
California to do it.

1440
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,119
every year. So, while I love the concept

1441
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:39,359
of Firewise Community, the ultimate end

1442
00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:43,920
result, if I'm doing one hour a year, am

1443
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,400
I really doing it? But what it does is

1444
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,400
it keeps people's in mind on the fact

1445
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,000
that they've got to be paying attention.

1446
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,079
And that's the real key. So, that's an

1447
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:54,000
individual thing that's done within a

1448
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,400
neighborhood. The fire risk reduction

1449
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,799
community is um is a designation that

1450
00:57:58,799 --> 00:58:00,319
comes from an application that you

1451
00:58:00,319 --> 00:58:02,400
provide to the board of forestry which

1452
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,720
is a division or department within

1453
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,960
Calire and they every two years they

1454
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,480
review the applications that they

1455
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,440
receive and based on the the way that

1456
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,720
you've answered the questions the things

1457
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,880
that you've done in your city um to

1458
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,559
protect them or to create ordinances

1459
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:21,599
like we've we've got a safety fund now

1460
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:23,440
so if somebody takes down trees in our

1461
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:24,880
willie

1462
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,640
Instead of having to replace the tree

1463
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,960
with something of equal value, they can

1464
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,559
put money into the safety fund, which

1465
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:32,240
could be used to help clear vegetation

1466
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,920
on the evacuation routes or to build a

1467
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,839
turnout or something else, you know,

1468
00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:38,000
whatever we define that to be. Um, we

1469
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,680
didn't have that a while ago, so it's a

1470
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,079
new mechanism that we've got. Um, so

1471
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:43,520
that that's the kind of thing you could

1472
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,920
do. So, making those decisions both in

1473
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,920
your planning and your your ordinances

1474
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,760
that you pass that can help you get

1475
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,520
that. Um, but that is a board of

1476
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:52,960
forestry and the next one will be in

1477
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,440
2028. Um, but it's really cool. I mean,

1478
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,680
I brought this up at the at the Ken was

1479
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:02,160
talking about the wildfire task force in Loscatus. That's where I first

1480
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,839
proposed this and I told them about it

1481
00:59:03,839 --> 00:59:06,319
when they hired their emergency services

1482
00:59:06,319 --> 00:59:07,680
manager. I'm like, you guys ought to try

1483
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,280
for this. And so now we have two cities

1484
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,799
in Santa Clair County, which is really

1485
00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:12,000
kind of cool.

1486
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,079
>> Did you have a followup? I Please go

1487
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:17,599
ahead.

1488
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:21,760
What do you estimate the organizational

1489
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,000
or administrative costs would be for

1490
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,720
uh CRD per year?

1491
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,000
>> That's a a really good question. Um our

1492
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,640
staff in in the report that's attached

1493
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,160
there is a staff report that was

1494
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,960
presented at our council meeting. Um and

1495
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,640
it talks about some of those both the

1496
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:41,760
startup costs.

1497
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:42,160
>> Yeah.

1498
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:42,640
>> Um

1499
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:43,839
>> those are one times.

1500
00:59:43,839 --> 00:59:45,280
And then the

1501
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,440
ongoing would be well how many grants

1502
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,040
are you going to try to get you if you

1503
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,520
don't have a grant writer on staff maybe

1504
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:52,960
this district wants an executive

1505
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,559
director so you have to spend. Now the

1506
00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:55,920
thing that they did when they created

1507
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,559
this entity at the state they said only

1508
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:00,799
5% of the funds can be spent on

1509
01:00:00,799 --> 01:00:03,040
administration. So the cool thing is

1510
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,720
it's limited in that which is another

1511
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,520
thing that I like uh because you know as

1512
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:08,880
one of these people who thinks the

1513
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,400
government might be out you know not to

1514
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,119
be my pal I know that it's limited and

1515
01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:15,599
so you you start to gain another level

1516
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:16,400
of

1517
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,160
>> 2 million you get 5%

1518
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,400
>> 5% can be used on administration so

1519
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,640
that's all you can do now hopefully the

1520
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,240
city might contribute something you know

1521
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,400
the entity that created it if they've

1522
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,119
got it if they don't then you don't got

1523
01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:31,599
it So,

1524
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:33,680
but you know, and is grant writing, you

1525
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,880
know, you're going out for a grant. Is

1526
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,640
that administration or is that part of

1527
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,880
the grant writing and you'd have to talk

1528
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,720
to lawyers and finance people about

1529
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:41,040
that?

1530
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,559
>> You you would also need to prepare

1531
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:44,400
financial information. So, someone's got

1532
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,839
to do

1533
01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:47,599
>> and and you know, typically that might

1534
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:49,839
be somebody from the body that created

1535
01:00:49,839 --> 01:00:52,880
the entity. Um, but it's all that's all

1536
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,680
TBD and that's part of the being the

1537
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,920
first, you know, and how you do it.

1538
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,599
There's a whole lot of questions and and

1539
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:03,040
I'm I know I'm giving the the Oh, here's

1540
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,760
the the sky is you can't because we

1541
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,079
don't have one. No one could have those

1542
01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:10,400
answers. I'd like to now open it up and

1543
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,960
see if there are people in chambers to

1544
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,839
question either our speaker or the city

1545
01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:17,520
manager.

1546
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:21,440
See no hands. Madam uh city clerk, are

1547
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,510
there any hands raised online?

1548
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:30,390
» No. But bringing it back to council,

1549
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,440
again, I find this very interesting.

1550
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,760
Personally,

1551
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,799
my primary goal next year is raising a

1552
01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:41,280
parcel tax, which by the way would be

1553
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,240
what we need would be $80 a month or

1554
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,839
$1,000 a year because our we don't have

1555
01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:50,319
sales taxes unlike Saratoga or

1556
01:01:50,319 --> 01:01:53,040
Loscatoos. our property tax revenue goes

1557
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,799
up about 5% a year and just like with

1558
01:01:56,799 --> 01:01:59,200
Saratoga, our cost of police services

1559
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,599
goes up more than 5% a year. So

1560
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:06,880
my own view is

1561
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,920
to keep this in mind, but at least next

1562
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,079
year until we pass a parcel tax, I I'd

1563
01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:16,319
like not to have the residents see us

1564
01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:17,680
spending a lot of money when we're

1565
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,920
asking them to uh to go from $150 a year

1566
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,720
parcel tax to $1,000. That's my

1567
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,400
comments, but I'll let comments from my

1568
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,359
colleagues. I I agree that that's the

1569
01:02:31,359 --> 01:02:33,200
priority, but I do think it's something

1570
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,079
that we should keep on the list of

1571
01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:39,119
things to consider and do because I

1572
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:42,240
think it's a a valuable way to do all

1573
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,000
the things I mentioned, which is make

1574
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,319
our community safer and do it in a

1575
01:02:46,319 --> 01:02:48,640
flexible way and engage more people.

1576
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,720
>> Yeah, Vice Mayor Shannon,

1577
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,480
>> um I agree with you that that it's the

1578
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,480
parcel tax is a priority, but this

1579
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,000
information is very good information

1580
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,559
that we can use down the road if needed.

1581
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:00,240
I know we currently have other things

1582
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,559
we're doing getting um [clears throat]

1583
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:05,920
getting the city better ready for a

1584
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,520
wildfire, including something we're

1585
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:08,640
going to talk about later, the

1586
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,760
eucalyptus trees, including updating our

1587
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,720
emergency handbook, including doing a

1588
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,520
study on our evacuation routes. So, I

1589
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,599
think we're still gathering data. We're

1590
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:21,119
not to the point yet where I think we

1591
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:22,799
would need something like this, but we

1592
01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:25,039
might get there.

1593
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:26,000
Greg.

1594
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,599
>> Well, thank you very much, Chuck, for

1595
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:29,359
coming in and talking to us about this.

1596
01:03:29,359 --> 01:03:31,359
I think this is a great tool and one of

1597
01:03:31,359 --> 01:03:33,200
the few things that I think our state

1598
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,839
legislature has done right these days.

1599
01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:36,720
And

1600
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,559
>> that's a short list burning it.

1601
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:43,440
>> Well, it's it's something that I think

1602
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,039
most of our residents are thinking about

1603
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,520
more and more now because every year,

1604
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,920
you know, 10% of California is on fire

1605
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:55,200
for the most part. And it's just it's not if, it's when. And I think a

1606
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,799
lot of people are starting to realize

1607
01:03:56,799 --> 01:03:59,520
that. And if uh if they don't, their

1608
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,559
insurance companies sure do. And so I

1609
01:04:02,559 --> 01:04:06,079
think as a as a one of our jobs as

1610
01:04:06,079 --> 01:04:08,000
government officials is to make sure

1611
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,319
that we give our residents all of the

1612
01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:16,720
tools that are necessary to help build a um a a community that can withstand a

1613
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,280
disaster. So, I hope this is something

1614
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,000
that will be on our plate. Um, as Lon

1615
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,079
said, we definitely got to get our our

1616
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:26,640
parcel tax for police services uh

1617
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,720
settled, but I hope that this is going

1618
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,720
to be right behind it. And that's what

1619
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,640
I'm looking to do um in my next term if

1620
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,480
I'm still here.

1621
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,160
>> Well, you know, you will be because

1622
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:42,069
later

1623
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:45,599
in the two, Chuck and I are the two has

1624
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:50,480
in the group. I can't be back. Um, yes.

1625
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:56,480
My question is how do you work this

1626
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,720
through at your city council? Do you

1627
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,720
have an ad hoc committee? Like, how are

1628
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,920
you working this to move it forward so

1629
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,760
it doesn't all of a sudden stop? Um what

1630
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,280
I'm trying to do is to get the council

1631
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,880
to uh put forward a resolution of intent

1632
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,200
to form one at which point it would be

1633
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:19,200
an ad hoc. It could be a um a committee

1634
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,200
of people that live in the WOOI for

1635
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:26,559
example to help define it. Um because I firmly believe that I need the

1636
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:29,039
community to push this as much as any

1637
01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:30,720
council member or even if the entire

1638
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,960
council wanted it. It's not going to fly

1639
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,119
unless the people that live there buy

1640
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:36,799
into it. But what you said earlier,

1641
01:05:36,799 --> 01:05:38,160
right now you're still looking for two

1642
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:38,640
more folks.

1643
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:39,760
>> I still am.

1644
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,240
>> I [laughter] I got we all sound like a

1645
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,079
city. We understand how that works.

1646
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:46,160
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, it it's a challenge

1647
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,480
without a doubt. Um and I think that's

1648
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:49,839
one of the things that most of the

1649
01:05:49,839 --> 01:05:52,079
communities have talked about doing this

1650
01:05:52,079 --> 01:05:53,839
are running into because it it isn't for

1651
01:05:53,839 --> 01:05:56,000
the faint of heart. And yeah, you oh

1652
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,240
yeah, Sonoma's got one. Yeah.

1653
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,400
Grandfathered in by law. It's like

1654
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:01,920
that's a whole lot easier than what

1655
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:02,880
we're trying to do.

1656
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,240
>> And and by the way, what are they doing

1657
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,079
with it? Good question.

1658
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:09,760
>> Yeah, yeah. Um, let me wrap this up

1659
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,319
again. You have brought something to our

1660
01:06:12,319 --> 01:06:14,960
attention and I think we all realize

1661
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,000
that we have to be proactive.

1662
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,440
Uh, because I agree with Council Craig.

1663
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,200
It's not if we have a wildfire, it's

1664
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,880
when we have a wildfire. Um I think

1665
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,880
madam city attorney that this was a

1666
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,039
discussion thing so u there's nothing

1667
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:35,599
for us to vote on but I think what I

1668
01:06:35,599 --> 01:06:37,440
hear is consensus of the council was

1669
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,599
done once we get the parcel tax behind

1670
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:41,599
us this is things that the this council

1671
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:43,839
may wish to look into

1672
01:06:43,839 --> 01:06:46,400
>> there was no um action for this item so

1673
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,720
I think the direction was heard by staff

1674
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,559
and we will proceed accordingly

1675
01:06:52,559 --> 01:06:54,160
>> and if there's anything I can do to help

1676
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,680
you uh in my day job I do have insurance

1677
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,160
and other stuff. So, I live this thing

1678
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:01,920
constantly and it scares the living

1679
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,440
daylights out of me because you're

1680
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,480
right, it's not if, it's when. And all

1681
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:07,920
we need is that lightning strike that

1682
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,520
happened in 2020 on the other side of

1683
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,280
the hill to happen over here in the

1684
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,000
middle of the open space district. And

1685
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,480
when somebody told me a story, I I lived

1686
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,720
here at 85. You know, a fire came down

1687
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,640
in Broadway.

1688
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,960
>> And but when you look here, I don't

1689
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,326
think you see anybody. You're shy.

1690
01:07:25,326 --> 01:07:25,599
>> [clears throat]

1691
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:28,160
>> We understand our responsibility to the

1692
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,599
residents of our community and uh none

1693
01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:34,000
of us is here for the big bucks

1694
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,806
>> otherwise we can go to something else.

1695
01:07:35,806 --> 01:07:36,480
[laughter]

1696
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,480
>> I'll [clears throat] see you in is it

1697
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,280
next Wednesday or the week.

1698
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,839
>> I'll see you next Wednesday lunch.

1699
01:07:43,839 --> 01:07:44,400
>> Thank you again.

1700
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:45,760
>> Thanks. I'm going to stay for next time.

1701
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:46,720
>> Oh, you're very welcome.

1702
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:47,920
>> Thank you. Thanks.

1703
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,720
>> Okay. Well, uh I think the next item is

1704
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,760
probably the the big on the agenda.

1705
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,119
I'll ask our Sydney manager to uh make a

1706
01:07:57,119 --> 01:07:58,960
presentation, please.

1707
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,440
>> Thank you. Um the city council's goals

1708
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,000
for the current year um as well as of

1709
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,720
last year included improving wildfire

1710
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,359
prevention and preparedness and this

1711
01:08:09,359 --> 01:08:12,000
goal includes um maintaining evacuation

1712
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,520
routes and as well as efforts to reduce

1713
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,520
um the fire hazard risks along Highway

1714
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,719
9. Um, highway as highway 9 would likely

1715
01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:22,560
serve as a main evacuation route for

1716
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,719
many Monsino residents in the event of a

1717
01:08:24,719 --> 01:08:27,120
wildfire. Reducing risks that may

1718
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:28,799
prevent the roadway from being used in

1719
01:08:28,799 --> 01:08:30,480
an evacuation

1720
01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:32,239
has been identified as a priority for

1721
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:34,080
the city council.

1722
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,080
The eucalyptus trees in the median of

1723
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,960
Highway 9 are of concern as they can be

1724
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,759
problematic for several reasons um

1725
01:08:41,759 --> 01:08:45,199
including they can contribute um to fire

1726
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:47,600
hazardness due to the oils um in their

1727
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,239
leaves. They are also susceptible to

1728
01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:52,560
sudden branch drop which causes limbs to

1729
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,279
fail without warning and their shallow

1730
01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:56,799
roots can make them susceptible to

1731
01:08:56,799 --> 01:08:59,759
falling. Attached um to the staff report

1732
01:08:59,759 --> 01:09:01,600
is a draft resolution that the city

1733
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,679
council may want to consider adopting

1734
01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:05,839
which would establish a city policy that

1735
01:09:05,839 --> 01:09:07,520
the eucalyptus trees in the median

1736
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,520
highway 9 are potential hazard for the

1737
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,080
residents of Monoserino and neighboring

1738
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,880
cities and supports removal of these

1739
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,520
trees. That completes the staff report

1740
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,120
and I'm happy to answer any questions

1741
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,520
you might have. Um

1742
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,480
>> I'll start without hearing questions of

1743
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:28,480
the city manager. Um,

1744
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:31,600
well, there's a lot to talk about here.

1745
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:32,159
Um,

1746
01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:35,279
>> I like to start with questions question

1747
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:36,880
from the council and then from the

1748
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:37,279
public.

1749
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:39,279
>> Okay. We can make

1750
01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:40,880
>> I have no questions. I'll wait till the

1751
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:41,279
rest.

1752
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:43,199
>> Okay, that's fine.

1753
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:45,279
>> I don't have any questions.

1754
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:47,040
>> Neither do I.

1755
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,159
>> Can I check questions?

1756
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:50,960
>> Um, I do have a few questions. Um I

1757
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,960
understand that um you amended what was

1758
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,920
said um by

1759
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,800
uh someone from the town of Lascatos.

1760
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,920
>> Chris Todd I think is his name right the

1761
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:04,400
isn't that

1762
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:05,679
>> it's not in the staff report.

1763
01:10:05,679 --> 01:10:07,360
>> Okay. I believe it I believe that's who

1764
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:08,159
you're referring to.

1765
01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:09,360
>> Right.

1766
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:13,440
And my question to you is, did you have

1767
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:15,760
any discussions or email correspondence

1768
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,679
with uh Chris Todd regarding the

1769
01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:22,880
definition of a eucalyptus tree and uh

1770
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,920
the difference between the species?

1771
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,440
Um yes, I did have um conversations um

1772
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:31,520
yesterday as well as a few months ago

1773
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,600
with or maybe about a month ago I should

1774
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,239
say um with Chris Todd who is the Los

1775
01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:39,760
Gatos um emergency manager and um

1776
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:45,120
discussed this issue in general um

1777
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,159
and yes regarding the the trees

1778
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:49,280
the eucalyptus

1779
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:54,159
>> right so I spoke with him and he said

1780
01:10:54,159 --> 01:10:56,719
that Oh, no. I'm going to make us I'm

1781
01:10:56,719 --> 01:10:57,760
going to ask a question.

1782
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,600
>> Okay. Okay. Cuz we'll do the comments

1783
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:00,400
later. Okay. Fair enough.

1784
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:01,360
>> No, I I get it.

1785
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,239
>> Okay. Fair enough. Please proceed.

1786
01:11:04,239 --> 01:11:08,400
>> And he said that he had asked you to

1787
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,520
differentiate between the species

1788
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,239
and I expected that to be done but it

1789
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:17,440
was not done. Can you explain that?

1790
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:20,640
>> Yes. So the um information that I was

1791
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,360
asked or the question that I was asked

1792
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,239
of um Chris Todd yesterday was to

1793
01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:28,719
clarify in the staff report that this is

1794
01:11:28,719 --> 01:11:30,719
his professional opinion and not an

1795
01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:32,880
opinion a policy of the town of

1796
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:36,400
Lascatoss or approved by the Loscatos

1797
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,640
town council. I had talked to him

1798
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,800
separately about other issues, but his

1799
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,800
request for the modification to the

1800
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,239
staff report was limited to this being

1801
01:11:46,239 --> 01:11:50,080
um a professional opinion of his.

1802
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,159
>> I'm surprised because that's not what he

1803
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:55,520
explained to me, but um

1804
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,000
I do and I don't know at what point in

1805
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,360
time. Oh, I'll ask it as a question. Um

1806
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:05,360
you uh distributed this document to

1807
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,920
everyone on council.

1808
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:12,880
Um have you gone through it and uh do

1809
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,600
you understand the difference in the uh

1810
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,880
in the different trees?

1811
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,679
>> Correct. I did um review it today. I

1812
01:12:21,679 --> 01:12:23,920
don't wouldn't say that I had a chance

1813
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:28,640
to to read every um page, but I did

1814
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:33,280
review it. and they do understand the

1815
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,640
points that you're making regarding the

1816
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:35,840
difference in the species of the

1817
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,600
egyptus.

1818
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:41,040
>> Okay. Okay. I will if there are no other

1819
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,480
questions I will ask if anybody in

1820
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:48,239
chambers has any uh questions of of the

1821
01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:50,640
city manager. If so, you have three

1822
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,640
minutes to come up and ask your

1823
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,760
question. Point of order. Um, are they

1824
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,760
allowed to make are they asking

1825
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,920
questions or can they make comments or

1826
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:01,360
are you going to take public comments

1827
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,320
separately?

1828
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,800
>> Let me ask the city attorney for

1829
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,480
clarification. Am I asking just

1830
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:07,760
questions or comments?

1831
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,679
>> So the public it is their opportunity to

1832
01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:11,040
make public comments.

1833
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:11,520
>> Okay.

1834
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,280
>> They can ask questions and that

1835
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,560
>> or they so members unlike the council uh

1836
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,080
members of the public will start with

1837
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:19,840
those in chambers and we'll go to those

1838
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,800
online. They have three minutes to uh

1839
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,560
make any comment they wish.

1840
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,120
Okay, Ed, please come up and speak into

1841
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,320
the microphone so that we have it. Ed,

1842
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,080
if you would tell us your name, please,

1843
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:34,719
ma'am.

1844
01:13:34,719 --> 01:13:38,000
>> My name is Kelly Weissberg. I live at

1845
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,280
15927 Viewfield Road. I'm also the head

1846
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,760
of the neighborhood watch for Viewfield

1847
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,320
neighbors. Um, I'd like to speak in

1848
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,280
favor of the resolution to remove the

1849
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,040
eucalyptus trees in the median strip of

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01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,880
Highway 9. I want to speak to what makes

1851
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,400
uh these trees uh uniquely so dangerous

1852
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,480
in fires. Particularly, I want to

1853
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:02,320
highlight five reasons, some of which

1854
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,120
were mentioned. Um, I want to elaborate.

1855
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,400
Um, first, the extreme flammability of

1856
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,320
the trees. They contain oils that make

1857
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,880
them highly combustible. The leaves and

1858
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,520
wood contain compounds that act like

1859
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,000
lighter fuel. They're so combustible, in

1860
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,840
fact, that they don't simply burn in

1861
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,560
high heat. They vaporize. They really

1862
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,840
explode. This allows the fires to burn

1863
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,880
with extreme ferocity. Second, the deep

1864
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,120
litter accumulation. The trees

1865
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,600
continuously drop leaves, twigs, bark

1866
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,440
that piled up in deep layers at the

1867
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:38,560
base. This ground layer easily ignites,

1868
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,040
creating a bed of tinder that fuels

1869
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,400
intense ground fires. Three, a stringy

1870
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,320
bark creates a ladder of fuel. The trees

1871
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,400
contain stringy peeling ribbon-like

1872
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,320
bark. It easily [clears throat] catches

1873
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,199
fire, allows the ground flames to climb

1874
01:14:55,199 --> 01:14:57,679
rapidly up the trunk into the upper

1875
01:14:57,679 --> 01:15:01,440
canopy of the tree. Four, fast ember

1876
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:04,239
dispersal. When the tree when the flames

1877
01:15:04,239 --> 01:15:07,040
climb up the bark into the upper canopy,

1878
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,560
the burning strips of bark easily detach

1879
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,360
and catch the wind, sending embers

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01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,760
flying over long distances to spark

1881
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,840
fires to residences that are far away

1882
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:21,520
from the main front. Five,

1883
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,679
these trees complicate firefighting

1884
01:15:23,679 --> 01:15:26,640
efforts. Firefighters call these trees

1885
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,040
widow makers because the trees

1886
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,239
complicate firefighting efforts. Why

1887
01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:34,159
does the flying embers breach

1888
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:36,080
containment lines, forcing the

1889
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,239
firefighters to constantly retreat and

1890
01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:41,199
establish new defensive positions? The

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01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:44,159
firestorm created by these trees creates

1892
01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:47,679
massive clouds of severe radiant heat,

1893
01:15:47,679 --> 01:15:49,920
preventing the ground crews from getting

1894
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,040
close enough to fight the fire. In

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01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,440
addition, the dense limbs and bark drop

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01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:58,400
unexpectedly during any blaze, creating

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01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,320
an additional safety hazard for the

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01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,239
firefighters that are working underneath

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01:16:02,239 --> 01:16:04,880
them. Because of these factors, these

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01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,640
trees have contributed to several

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01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,360
historic fire disasters such as the

1902
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,600
Oakland Hills firestorm. It killed 25

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01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,199
people, destroyed over 3,000 homes.

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01:16:15,199 --> 01:16:17,600
This makes these trees a permanent focus

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01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,320
for local fire safety efforts to remove

1906
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:26,229
them like this one tonight. Thank you.

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01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:28,327
» Yeah, that's a good question. Uh

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01:16:28,327 --> 01:16:30,159
[snorts] I would have been surprised if

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01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:32,400
you didn't. So, please go ahead. Brian,

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01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,840
thank you very much for describing the

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01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,600
uh dangers of these particular of of

1912
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,199
eucalyptus trees. Are you aware? My

1913
01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:45,199
first question. Are you aware of the

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01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:49,440
difference between a red iron bark tree

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01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:52,239
and a Tasmanian blue gum?

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01:16:52,239 --> 01:16:53,920
>> Yes.

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01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,840
It's my understanding all of these trees

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01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,360
are flammable. And if we're talking

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01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,679
about a question of degree, these trees

1920
01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:01,600
are not native to California. They were

1921
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,440
brought here from Australia during the

1922
01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:05,040
Gold Rust days. If you want me to go

1923
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,480
into the history of the trees, I'm happy

1924
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:07,120
to continue.

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01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,239
>> I I we can have that discussion. I but I

1926
01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:12,000
want to ask you questions.

1927
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,920
>> I'm not a um I know there are people who

1928
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:20,080
are um lawyers who who are forensic

1929
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,480
arborists. I know that is a specialty.

1930
01:17:22,480 --> 01:17:24,719
I'm a lawyer. That's not my specialty.

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01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:27,199
So I prefer not to address it in detail.

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01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:28,880
I think

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01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,719
>> I'm just going to ask you a question.

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01:17:30,719 --> 01:17:31,199
>> Yes.

1935
01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:35,040
>> Okay. Um one of the things that is well

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01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,040
first of all I'll make a comment then

1937
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,520
I'll ask a question if that's okay. The

1938
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,520
comment is that California because

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01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,000
there's so many quote eucalyptus trees

1940
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,159
planted here, there's all kinds of

1941
01:17:48,159 --> 01:17:50,000
literature that's available.

1942
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,719
>> Absolutely. But one of the one of the

1943
01:17:52,719 --> 01:17:56,000
items is the overall uh fuel hazard

1944
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,560
assessment guide the fourth edition um

1945
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,280
via the state of Victoria that talks

1946
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,719
about the bar bark hazard classification

1947
01:18:04,719 --> 01:18:06,719
and spotting distances

1948
01:18:06,719 --> 01:18:09,440
>> and they differentiate and identify the

1949
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:11,600
difference. This is not this is

1950
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,440
>> I understand where I understand where

1951
01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:14,640
you're going with that. It's a question

1952
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,120
of how many kilometers that the sparks

1953
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:17,679
travel

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01:18:17,679 --> 01:18:19,360
>> but and the rating of the different

1955
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:19,679
trees.

1956
01:18:19,679 --> 01:18:23,199
>> Absolutely. If embers travel distances,

1957
01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:24,880
I'm not going to question whether my

1958
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,600
home is 30 kilometers or 10 kilometers,

1959
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,560
it's a question of how how high those

1960
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,560
winds are that are occurring during a

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01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,960
given fire. Usually, we've seen in

1962
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,920
California, we've seen high winds whip

1963
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:39,760
around. I mean, you've seen on

1964
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,640
television the high winds during fires

1965
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,280
in in Southern California just last

1966
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,239
summer. This is true in Portugal, too. I

1967
01:18:48,239 --> 01:18:51,600
mean, the high winds take these embers

1968
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,920
really vast distances from the front of

1969
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,719
the fire. These trees, if you Google

1970
01:18:56,719 --> 01:18:59,120
what's the most flammable tree,

1971
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,199
surprise, surprise, it's the eucalyptus.

1972
01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:02,719
And it doesn't make a distinction

1973
01:19:02,719 --> 01:19:05,760
between the blue gum or the red one.

1974
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,239
>> Okay. Um,

1975
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:11,199
I will ask you a second question or

1976
01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:13,040
another question and this will be my

1977
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:13,920
last question.

1978
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,280
>> Okay. I just this is you know I practice

1979
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,239
law for 50 years. She's you know I I

1980
01:19:20,239 --> 01:19:22,480
don't want us beating up on people

1981
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:22,960
speaking.

1982
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,320
>> I'm just asking questions.

1983
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:25,360
>> Just tell me where I'm coming.

1984
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,239
>> I'm a law professor retired. He's not

1985
01:19:28,239 --> 01:19:31,590
beating up.

1986
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:36,709
» Maybe you should reference that me.

1987
01:19:36,719 --> 01:19:42,960
» Are you Have you seen the three groves

1988
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,199
of

1989
01:19:45,199 --> 01:19:48,159
Tasmanian blue goats on the south side

1990
01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:51,760
of Highway 9.

1991
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:52,960
>> Are we talking about the ones in the

1992
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:54,320
median strip?

1993
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,679
>> No, I said on the south side.

1994
01:19:57,679 --> 01:19:59,520
>> Oh, I'm sorry, but I'm confused.

1995
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,040
>> Well, explain that to me, too. Which

1996
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,480
ones are the ones on the south side, cuz

1997
01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:03,199
I don't know where.

1998
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:06,239
>> Okay, so at the corner of Rich Crest and

1999
01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:07,040
Highway 9.

2000
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:08,560
>> Yes, that's only a couple blocks from

2001
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,920
where I live. on the southeast corner

2002
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,239
there is known it's across the street

2003
01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:15,920
from view if I could

2004
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:16,239
>> Okay,

2005
01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:17,199
>> that's the south side.

2006
01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:19,280
>> Okay. Have I seen them? Probably

2007
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,000
hundreds if not thousands of times. Your

2008
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,000
point is

2009
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,880
>> Oh, if you're ask my point My point is I

2010
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,440
believe those trees should be removed

2011
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:30,880
and taken care of. Okay,

2012
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,960
>> that's one. The second one is have you

2013
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,719
seen the ones at Decatur and Farra?

2014
01:20:36,719 --> 01:20:39,760
There's a small group of of blueg cedars

2015
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,840
there. Tasmanian bluegs.

2016
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,400
>> Uh I don't remember that. Okay. Grove in

2017
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:45,600
particular.

2018
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,239
>> Then there's another two that are by

2019
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:50,640
Montavo Oaks.

2020
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,719
>> I'm sure there's several online read as

2021
01:20:52,719 --> 01:20:56,800
well. And the point is,

2022
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,800
>> may I ask her her answer question? I at

2023
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,400
this point I think you've asked her

2024
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,480
questions. I think she's answered it.

2025
01:21:04,480 --> 01:21:08,880
So, I'd like to uh let her go. Uh

2026
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,480
I know with the law school for 12 years,

2027
01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:13,280
too, by the way. Um [clears throat] so,

2028
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,520
thank you. I think I'd like to see are

2029
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,679
there other people in chambers who would

2030
01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:20,480
like to uh comment and so please come up

2031
01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:22,400
and introduce yourself. Madam, thank you

2032
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:26,320
very much for your presentation and uh

2033
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,960
and I as I [clears throat] said to the

2034
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,840
vice mayor, it became clear to me that

2035
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,520
you didn't need me to protect you.

2036
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,040
You're doing very well.

2037
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,480
>> Yes, sir. If I had your name, please,

2038
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:36,960
sir.

2039
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,960
>> I am George Blumenthal. I also live on

2040
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,440
Viewfield Road. I also want to speak in

2041
01:21:41,440 --> 01:21:44,159
favor of this resolution. And just I

2042
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:46,000
don't want to repeat what the previous

2043
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,159
speaker said, but I do want to just make

2044
01:21:48,159 --> 01:21:50,960
a couple of points. One is many of us

2045
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,880
live on culdeacs

2046
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:56,159
and our culde-sacs lead into Highway 9

2047
01:21:56,159 --> 01:21:58,880
and therefore Highway 9 represents the

2048
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,719
escape route for us from a big fire. And

2049
01:22:02,719 --> 01:22:04,560
um it's really important that that

2050
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,880
escape route remain free and capable of

2051
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,440
taking on the traffic of people fleeing

2052
01:22:11,440 --> 01:22:13,520
from a fire. And that's why I'm

2053
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,239
concerned about particularly the trees

2054
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:18,480
that are in the median strip on Highway

2055
01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:22,480
9. Just incidentally, my son is a lawyer

2056
01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:24,400
who happens to have represented many of

2057
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,120
the victims of the Soma fire from a few

2058
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,400
years ago and his comment to me was that

2059
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,639
the most important thing that you have

2060
01:22:32,639 --> 01:22:35,120
to prepare for is an escape route from

2061
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,360
such a fire and I completely agree with

2062
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,280
him and I encourage you to think about

2063
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,920
that as you consider this matter. Thank

2064
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,830
you.

2065
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,960
» Questions? Any questions? Sir, thank you

2066
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,199
very much. Are there others in chambers

2067
01:22:51,199 --> 01:22:52,639
who would like to comment on the

2068
01:22:52,639 --> 01:22:55,830
eucalyp?

2069
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:57,440
Sir, please come up and introduce

2070
01:22:57,440 --> 01:22:59,120
yourself.

2071
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,679
>> My name is Raj. Um, live on Bridge Crest

2072
01:23:01,679 --> 01:23:03,199
on Bank Avenue.

2073
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:04,480
>> You're name sir?

2074
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:05,520
>> Roger Ry.

2075
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,280
>> Okay.

2076
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:08,560
We corresponded.

2077
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,600
>> Yeah. I think he spoke to my mother.

2078
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,120
>> I thought we exchanged.

2079
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,520
>> I think he spoke to my mother some.

2080
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,800
>> Yeah. Um I would just u ask the council

2081
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,239
to consider the degree to which um the

2082
01:23:22,239 --> 01:23:25,040
treatment of median should be a priority

2083
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,840
because um as I think the other council

2084
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,000
member described on the corner of the

2085
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,199
street leading to mine which is

2086
01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:33,920
Ridgerest there's a gigantic um

2087
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,679
eucalyptus and there are a few more

2088
01:23:35,679 --> 01:23:38,080
along the side of Highway 9 and those

2089
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:39,760
present like represent a huge amount of

2090
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:43,280
biomass and flammable oil and they also

2091
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,920
drop a lot of bark on the base of the

2092
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,560
ground which I from what I understand is

2093
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,600
really represents the most of the danger

2094
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:55,120
in in the in the event of a wildfire. Um

2095
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:56,480
one the other thing I understand is that

2096
01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:57,840
there's some difference between the two

2097
01:23:57,840 --> 01:23:59,199
types of between a few types of

2098
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:02,639
eucalyptus and it kind of struck me

2099
01:24:02,639 --> 01:24:04,239
because I didn't even realize that the

2100
01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:05,679
trees in the median were eucalyptus

2101
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:07,280
trees because you're so used to seeing

2102
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,600
those big ones with the stringy bark and

2103
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,679
they're kind of pale. These I thought I

2104
01:24:11,679 --> 01:24:12,560
thought were something else. Someone

2105
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,080
said acacia. I thought they were aac

2106
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,000
walnut. Turns out they're eucalyptus.

2107
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,320
But I think phenotypically they're

2108
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,800
completely different. And maybe because

2109
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,199
I saw Calrans working on them for months

2110
01:24:23,199 --> 01:24:25,840
and months. I think maybe if they're

2111
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,840
able to manage those, we could maybe

2112
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,560
direct your resources to these more

2113
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,639
problem problematic ones just much

2114
01:24:32,639 --> 01:24:36,080
bigger and seem to present have a lot

2115
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,719
more fuel in case of a fire. And if

2116
01:24:38,719 --> 01:24:39,920
those fell, I don't think there'd be

2117
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,920
really any way to get around the

2118
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,560
obstacle presented. Whereas these ones

2119
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,080
in the median seem a little bit lighter

2120
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,480
weight and probably maybe not as

2121
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:50,719
hazardous, whereas the ones on my street

2122
01:24:50,719 --> 01:24:53,280
and around it, I think they could

2123
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:54,880
present a big problem if anything ever

2124
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,520
happened. So I just ask the council to

2125
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:01,199
consider um more than just the median

2126
01:25:01,199 --> 01:25:03,600
and maybe prioritize more problematic

2127
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:04,719
trees. That's it.

2128
01:25:04,719 --> 01:25:08,400
>> Right. Questions of

2129
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,400
member, did you have questions on the

2130
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,639
speaker?

2131
01:25:12,639 --> 01:25:15,040
Um,

2132
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,280
no. [clears throat]

2133
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,679
Are there others in chambers? Yes,

2134
01:25:19,679 --> 01:25:20,639
madam. Please,

2135
01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:23,440
>> if they have a moment of time,

2136
01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:25,360
>> everybody who's here gets to speak. Add

2137
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:26,480
your name, please. Madam

2138
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:29,280
>> Roi and I emailed some of you.

2139
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,679
>> Okay. Yes. I think we each feedback.

2140
01:25:31,679 --> 01:25:33,040
>> And first of all, I'd like to thank all

2141
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,880
of you for taking care of us and

2142
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,480
watching out for us, being here on

2143
01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:38,080
Tuesday night worrying about what to do

2144
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:39,920
with the city and how to make things

2145
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:41,679
better for all of us. We appreciate that

2146
01:25:41,679 --> 01:25:44,159
very much. Uh, having said that, of

2147
01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:45,520
course, I'm here because I want to make

2148
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,440
some noise about the eucalyptus. I will

2149
01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:51,760
>> through emails.

2150
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:53,440
>> Well, one of them was a corre correction

2151
01:25:53,440 --> 01:25:55,040
because I was appalled when I read my

2152
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,199
own emails. So, I had to do all the

2153
01:25:57,199 --> 01:26:00,480
corrections. Um,

2154
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:02,480
I have to say that I absolutely love

2155
01:26:02,480 --> 01:26:04,320
Highway 9. When I didn't live in this

2156
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,239
area, we used to come for a drive and it

2157
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:09,600
was just so magical to be there. uh come

2158
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,760
on a summer evening, you know, you turn

2159
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,280
off the air conditioning, turn on the

2160
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,040
recycling and able to get the lovely

2161
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:16,719
fragrances, which hasn't happened for a

2162
01:26:16,719 --> 01:26:18,639
while uh last couple of years, but

2163
01:26:18,639 --> 01:26:20,000
generally speaking, it used to be

2164
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,400
heavenly. Um you just feel proud of

2165
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,480
saying I I'm now I live off Highway 9.

2166
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:25,760
You know, you try to be as casual as

2167
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,199
possible when you say it, but you feel

2168
01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:30,320
great about it. And to lose those trees

2169
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:31,840
would be something else. I'll give a

2170
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,639
very quick example of uh these the

2171
01:26:34,639 --> 01:26:37,120
notorious um eucalyptuses the tall ones

2172
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,960
that were on the on the bend around

2173
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,480
Rididgerest when you go and there's a

2174
01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:42,639
little street going up Scott and there's

2175
01:26:42,639 --> 01:26:44,880
a hill u both are private roads I

2176
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,199
believe but they were majestic and they

2177
01:26:47,199 --> 01:26:49,440
were more than 100 years old. Uh one day

2178
01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:50,880
they were just cut down and then that

2179
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,719
time there was Jinny and Rocky Road over

2180
01:26:52,719 --> 01:26:54,560
here and I remember talking to Jinny.

2181
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:56,320
She stopped by for some work that we had

2182
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,080
were getting done. And I said, "What

2183
01:26:58,080 --> 01:26:59,600
happened there?" And she said, "Oh, you

2184
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,600
know, we've got them to agree to

2185
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,560
planting several oak trees. If you go

2186
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,159
around that around the creek, you'll see

2187
01:27:06,159 --> 01:27:08,080
lots of oak trees have been planted."

2188
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:09,199
So, yes, they took down those

2189
01:27:09,199 --> 01:27:10,560
eucalyptus. The red hawks were

2190
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,719
displaced. We don't hear owls that much

2191
01:27:12,719 --> 01:27:14,560
anymore. I'm not sure if they, you know,

2192
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,000
they go off s hand in hand, but

2193
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,960
there was a plan in place. So while I

2194
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,280
can't presume to tell you not to cut

2195
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:24,960
this down because you are finally the

2196
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,960
managers literally no there's a city

2197
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,400
manager managers of our well-being if

2198
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,800
you will I would really say if you could

2199
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:34,480
have one project in which you cut it

2200
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:36,239
down but put something else rather than

2201
01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:38,800
leave it as a second phase that would be

2202
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:42,080
my you know humble request and I'm sure

2203
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,560
that if the city and again I don't mean

2204
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,040
to be in any way um insulting but if

2205
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,800
there's a lack of funds then I'm sure

2206
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:50,880
there are plenty of arborists etc who

2207
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,120
live in the city will be happy to donate

2208
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,040
or you know send manpower or whatever it

2209
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,280
is to replace the trees we could always

2210
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,800
try to ask for help and there might be

2211
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,040
plenty who will come forward so that

2212
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,639
would be my request I mean we the

2213
01:28:04,639 --> 01:28:06,480
quail's gone out of Monteino so we don't

2214
01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:08,239
want to lose anything else I mean I busy

2215
01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:10,320
I asked the mama's market guy who sells

2216
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,320
quail eggs can can you get me quail so I

2217
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:13,760
can put them out here and he'll say we

2218
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:15,600
are not allowed to do that but there was

2219
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,360
a one pair that came to our house and

2220
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:18,480
we've been trying to feed her and

2221
01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:21,360
they've gone Okay. So that was my my

2222
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:22,400
little bit. Thank you so much.

2223
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:23,360
>> Thank you very much.

2224
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,239
>> Uh questions of the speaker.

2225
01:28:26,239 --> 01:28:29,120
>> Yes sir. Um

2226
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,520
are you aware of the difference between

2227
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:36,400
the the trees in the center median and

2228
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:41,520
the blue gums on the south side of

2229
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:42,400
highway 9?

2230
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,719
>> Yes, I am. And I actually feel that the

2231
01:28:44,719 --> 01:28:47,360
ones in the middle are not they may I

2232
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,679
mean all trees will will get burnt at

2233
01:28:49,679 --> 01:28:51,120
some point of time but I don't think

2234
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,040
they represent that much of danger to

2235
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,280
us. We do have several. In fact, I was

2236
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,600
wondering when I read this and driving

2237
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,440
down, I literally tried counting how

2238
01:28:59,440 --> 01:29:01,520
many trees do we have of the blue

2239
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,280
eucalyptus. There are several on the

2240
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:04,880
sides even on the right side. There are

2241
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,000
some, yes, I know in the corner,

2242
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,239
Ridgerest or Datur and Faragut. There's

2243
01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:09,520
some on the right side when there's one

2244
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,560
odd coming up every now and then. Which

2245
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,639
are the flammable ones? I know the

2246
01:29:14,639 --> 01:29:15,920
difference. And I also see the canopy

2247
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,239
and how how much calans because I was

2248
01:29:18,239 --> 01:29:19,840
wondering earlier why is why are people

2249
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:21,360
working on these trees all the time. Now

2250
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,360
it makes sense. So the canopies are far

2251
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:25,199
away from each other. They have been

2252
01:29:25,199 --> 01:29:27,840
trimmed upwards if that makes any sense.

2253
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,080
So I don't think they represent that

2254
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,719
much danger. But the final word I guess

2255
01:29:32,719 --> 01:29:35,120
like is you know with all of you. What I

2256
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,080
can say is that if there is any if I may

2257
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,480
call it deforestation loosely then I

2258
01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:42,480
would really request there to be a plan

2259
01:29:42,480 --> 01:29:44,480
B which is part of you know this A and B

2260
01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:46,639
together rather than a B coming along

2261
01:29:46,639 --> 01:29:48,080
the way at some point of time. That

2262
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:52,159
would be devastating. practice making we love I mean I I don't want it to

2263
01:29:52,159 --> 01:29:54,719
become a stream in CO even sunny girls

2264
01:29:54,719 --> 01:29:56,800
down I mean this sounds insulting but

2265
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,360
down after big basin way the same street

2266
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:00,960
looks so different it doesn't have this

2267
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,199
beauty

2268
01:30:03,199 --> 01:30:04,320
>> thank you

2269
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,760
>> um anybody else in chambers well I think

2270
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:13,920
everybody has spoken uh hands online

2271
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:15,040
city clerk

2272
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:16,320
>> uh no hands are raised

2273
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,639
>> okay well I'm going to bring it back and

2274
01:30:18,639 --> 01:30:21,360
I'm going for myself the privilege of

2275
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,320
speaking first. Uh we've been looking

2276
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:29,360
into uh the trees for u several years

2277
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,840
now as fire

2278
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,880
and u

2279
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:36,480
until

2280
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:38,880
5 minutes before the meeting when I got

2281
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:43,040
members back I hadn't heard anybody say

2282
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:44,639
that

2283
01:30:44,639 --> 01:30:47,840
the trees were not fire day. I've had a

2284
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,880
number of meetings personally with CALR.

2285
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:54,000
Calrans has raised the issue. It's a

2286
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,360
scenic highway and so we have to get

2287
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,520
permission and we'd have to replace it

2288
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,120
with something else going to what you

2289
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:04,880
said, madam, that we'd want to maintain

2290
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,600
it as a scenic highway. But there's

2291
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,440
nothing in the law that says to be a

2292
01:31:09,440 --> 01:31:12,800
scenic highway you need to trees. But in

2293
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,159
all my conversations uh with Calrans and

2294
01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:20,080
I had some one-on- ons that uh our

2295
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,120
citizen of the until tomorrow leader

2296
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:26,880
Carl Gardino set up uh Calrans has never

2297
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,679
said and they've been they have

2298
01:31:29,679 --> 01:31:32,000
exclusive jurisdiction since the trees

2299
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,560
were planted to maintain the trees. over

2300
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,600
the last 60 years cal has maintained and

2301
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:43,440
they have never said that uh gee um

2302
01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:46,880
these are eucalyptus trees that aren't

2303
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,280
flammable. They've never raised the

2304
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,840
argument. Uh they've just said gee we

2305
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:53,920
need permission because of the state

2306
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,320
highway. Also I've had meetings with

2307
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,880
several meetings with county fire. uh

2308
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:02,000
our county treasure chief Sana Kerto has

2309
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,639
come to our meetings. She wrote a letter

2310
01:32:04,639 --> 01:32:07,520
last year. There was a letter that Craig

2311
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:10,000
wrote and in it she talked about

2312
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,199
training a county fire has never raised

2313
01:32:13,199 --> 01:32:16,480
the issue that the these trees are not

2314
01:32:16,480 --> 01:32:22,400
flammable. So my view is we u as

2315
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:25,280
the view field speaker said we only have

2316
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,400
two arteries Winchester and state

2317
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,719
highway nine but for hundreds of our

2318
01:32:30,719 --> 01:32:33,280
residents on both sides of nine who live

2319
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,280
on culde-sacs

2320
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:40,320
uh uh if they if nine is impassible they

2321
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:42,480
are trapped in their fold we're talking

2322
01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:46,239
about uh several hundred presidents I

2323
01:32:46,239 --> 01:32:47,920
think as a council, we have an

2324
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:49,440
obligation

2325
01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:53,199
to uh remove it. And again, uh until

2326
01:32:53,199 --> 01:32:56,000
this evening, I've never heard either

2327
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,600
Town Trans or County Fire say that the

2328
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,400
kind of eucalyptus we have are

2329
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,320
blackable. So, that's my comments and

2330
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,880
I'd be pleased to I'm going to start

2331
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,440
this one because I with respect I I I

2332
01:33:09,440 --> 01:33:11,280
know what council member Machek's

2333
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,600
position. No, ma'am, it's not open

2334
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,639
anymore. Sorry. uh customer inventory.

2335
01:33:16,639 --> 01:33:20,960
>> Well, um I um

2336
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:24,239
there's a couple things. Number one,

2337
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:26,159
this is not a new issue. It seems like

2338
01:33:26,159 --> 01:33:28,320
you've been patr. We've talked to many

2339
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,159
people about this. Uh you know, we're

2340
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:32,400
not ar n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n none of us were arborists, so we

2341
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,239
don't really know. We know that there

2342
01:33:34,239 --> 01:33:36,960
are different species of eucalyptus

2343
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,520
trees. Eucalyptus trees are flammable.

2344
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,600
There are other there are trees there

2345
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,639
are species of trees that are more

2346
01:33:44,639 --> 01:33:48,560
flammable than others. That's a fact. Um

2347
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,719
we also know that there's a lot of brush

2348
01:33:50,719 --> 01:33:53,520
that the uh eucalyptus trees cause on

2349
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:56,239
both sides of Route 9 which is also a

2350
01:33:56,239 --> 01:33:59,679
major problem. Um that has to be

2351
01:33:59,679 --> 01:34:03,760
addressed too. Um, you know, I I think

2352
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,920
it's a dialogue we have to again have

2353
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:09,280
with Calrans because it's their it's it

2354
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,000
they are the lead agency and I think we

2355
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:16,480
have to go in with with with a plan. Um,

2356
01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:18,560
one of the things that's important to me

2357
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,520
as part of this plan is to demonstrate

2358
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:24,800
to CALR uh what we're doing uh with

2359
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:26,719
regard to

2360
01:34:26,719 --> 01:34:28,800
emergency prep preparation in our

2361
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:30,639
community. I don't, you know, judging

2362
01:34:30,639 --> 01:34:33,440
from what Mayor Page uh presented

2363
01:34:33,440 --> 01:34:35,520
earlier, there's a lot of things that we

2364
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,840
could be doing in this community to

2365
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,800
prepare people for wildfire that I'm not

2366
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:43,360
sure that we are doing. Um some of the

2367
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,280
some of those things were mentioned

2368
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,600
earlier and I I think they're all, you

2369
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,679
know, they're all to be considered. So,

2370
01:34:49,679 --> 01:34:52,880
you know, when we go to talk to Calrans,

2371
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,239
which is something we definitely should

2372
01:34:54,239 --> 01:34:57,040
do, um I think we should be prepared to

2373
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:01,440
at least um offer a a plan

2374
01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:03,120
to deal with evacuation, deal with home

2375
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:04,960
hardening, deal with fire risk, deal

2376
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:06,320
with all the things that were mentioned

2377
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:09,280
earlier today, even to engage our youth.

2378
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:12,480
Um um council member Craig and I had a

2379
01:35:12,480 --> 01:35:13,840
meeting with the youth commission and

2380
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:15,840
talked to them about maybe getting doing

2381
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,840
a project to create go bags for the

2382
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:19,920
residents of Monerina. So there's a lot

2383
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:21,760
of things that we should be going into

2384
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,600
saying we are not just looking at

2385
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,320
eucalyptus trees in this area that area

2386
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,320
this species or that species. We're

2387
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:32,000
looking at creating uh a a safer

2388
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:36,239
community in general. Um, so, uh, but I,

2389
01:35:36,239 --> 01:35:38,560
you know, but I, but I'm not an

2390
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:41,920
arborist. I'm not, I'm not an expert. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I

2391
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:43,520
can do the, the research that everybody

2392
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,320
else can do to determine, you know, uh,

2393
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,560
the the various species and which ones

2394
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:52,239
are more flammable than others. Um, so I

2395
01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:54,719
look I look to experts that that can at

2396
01:35:54,719 --> 01:35:58,159
least offer their advice and counsel and

2397
01:35:58,159 --> 01:36:00,159
help us figure figure this out.

2398
01:36:00,159 --> 01:36:01,760
Something needs to be done. That's

2399
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:05,600
clear. But I I I would defer to who

2400
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,400
whomever is an expert in this area to be

2401
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:14,000
able to help us, you know, facilitate a plan that makes sense over time. The

2402
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:17,920
last thing I will say is there is a cost

2403
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,280
and I think these trees are very

2404
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:24,719
expensive to take down. Uh many of them

2405
01:36:24,719 --> 01:36:26,719
are huge. [snorts]

2406
01:36:26,719 --> 01:36:29,360
Um so that has to be addressed and I'm

2407
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,600
not sure how that how that works. Well,

2408
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,880
I can too. I I spoke with uh James

2409
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,520
Williams on this very issue. Uh I got to

2410
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,719
know him when uh he was county council

2411
01:36:40,719 --> 01:36:42,400
because county council provides legal

2412
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,199
services to the civil grand jury. And

2413
01:36:45,199 --> 01:36:48,159
after my first conversation with Calrans

2414
01:36:48,159 --> 01:36:51,679
when uh they

2415
01:36:51,679 --> 01:36:55,600
gave this information they said uh 100%

2416
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,239
of cost of removing the trees falls on

2417
01:36:58,239 --> 01:37:00,560
city where they are located. of Saratoga

2418
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,920
minus Seno 100% as it's seen anything

2419
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:07,280
replanning would be on Saratoga and my

2420
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:13,920
Seno and putting in irrigation and so I I called up James Williams and I said

2421
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:18,320
gee this is what Calran said and um he

2422
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:22,960
said well that's actually 100% false u

2423
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,520
that the cost of removing the eucalyptus

2424
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:29,679
trees falls 100% on Calrans the cost of

2425
01:37:29,679 --> 01:37:32,880
Saratoga and money will be zero because

2426
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,440
of the senior road the cost of putting

2427
01:37:35,440 --> 01:37:38,560
in appropriate

2428
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,400
u

2429
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,440
not replacement thing

2430
01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:47,600
uh is on Calr not a penny from Saratog

2431
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,400
putting in irrigation and maintaining it

2432
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,480
just like Calrans has maintained this

2433
01:37:52,480 --> 01:37:57,600
for the last 60 years. So um

2434
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:01,600
you know uh I am embarrassed that I so

2435
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:03,119
misunderstood

2436
01:38:03,119 --> 01:38:05,920
what CALR said because I thought they

2437
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,600
said we had a bear cost 100% and county

2438
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,639
council and I went back to Calr. They

2439
01:38:12,639 --> 01:38:14,880
said they misunderstood

2440
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:17,679
me and they Cal France has now agreed in

2441
01:38:17,679 --> 01:38:19,520
the conversations that there will be

2442
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:23,040
zero cost to either removal or finding

2443
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:24,800
something else to keep it as a scenic.

2444
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,600
The zero cost to the cities of Saratoga

2445
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:31,360
and Sereno and I'm so embarrassed that I

2446
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,760
misunderstood them is one of the major

2447
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,760
reasons I'm not running for reelection.

2448
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:38,400
>> Well, that's that that's good news

2449
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,280
because I I heard differences.

2450
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:43,600
of opinion too. And

2451
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:45,199
by the way, the last thing I'll say is I

2452
01:38:45,199 --> 01:38:48,960
am complete in favor for if if to

2453
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:52,400
replace any or all of the eucalyptus

2454
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:54,639
trees with other other appropriate

2455
01:38:54,639 --> 01:38:56,159
plants and trees and things of that

2456
01:38:56,159 --> 01:38:58,000
nature because I think preserving that

2457
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:00,000
beautiful scenic route. I I agree with

2458
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,760
you and I think we we have a well first

2459
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:02,880
of all I think we have a legal

2460
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,520
obligation but I think as a number of

2461
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,560
the speakers have said um you know I

2462
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:10,800
said I've lived in this town 47 years

2463
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:12,800
and we live here because it's a

2464
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:17,520
beautiful place to live and so but u I

2465
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:21,119
think there are so many other things

2466
01:39:21,119 --> 01:39:23,440
that we could plant there that will

2467
01:39:23,440 --> 01:39:25,679
still make it a beautiful thing and

2468
01:39:25,679 --> 01:39:29,520
we'll make it the Boulevard. Uh but we

2469
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:31,679
will be fulfilling our obligation to our

2470
01:39:31,679 --> 01:39:35,600
residency. Vice Mayor Shannon,

2471
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,960
>> uh you just touched on this both just so

2472
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:40,239
that it's you know clear to the

2473
01:39:40,239 --> 01:39:43,280
community that what we're talking about

2474
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:46,239
with this resolution is just to say that

2475
01:39:46,239 --> 01:39:49,520
we if we adopt it that we are supporting

2476
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:51,520
efforts to remove these trees. this

2477
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,080
council doesn't have the power to remove

2478
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:55,920
the trees and then as you just heard

2479
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,320
it's a CALR issue and CALR would be

2480
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,320
paying for it. It's just whether or not

2481
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,880
we're going to pursue having this done.

2482
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,119
And based upon the comments that came

2483
01:40:05,119 --> 01:40:06,719
from the citizens, and I'm, you know,

2484
01:40:06,719 --> 01:40:08,239
happy when the citizens get involved and

2485
01:40:08,239 --> 01:40:09,679
they have comments, whether it's here in

2486
01:40:09,679 --> 01:40:12,880
chambers or via email, um there were

2487
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,040
some people who were in favor of keeping

2488
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,440
the trees. I think more were in favor of

2489
01:40:17,440 --> 01:40:19,119
trying to get them removed because of

2490
01:40:19,119 --> 01:40:21,760
all the buyer safety issues we've all

2491
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:24,719
just heard us all talking about. Um, I

2492
01:40:24,719 --> 01:40:26,800
think the big concern that kind of keeps

2493
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:28,880
coming up is, as you just said, Mayor

2494
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,440
Allen, the beauty of that corridor and

2495
01:40:31,440 --> 01:40:33,440
if those trees were to be removed, um,

2496
01:40:33,440 --> 01:40:35,520
that something beautiful would be put in

2497
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,320
its place. Um, again, my understanding

2498
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:42,080
is, correct me if I'm wrong, but that would be completely up to CALR and

2499
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,159
that we would not necessarily have a say

2500
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:47,199
in what those replacement fees would be.

2501
01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:49,760
May I add to that my conversation they

2502
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:51,280
would

2503
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:54,560
>> they will discuss it with us

2504
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:59,760
>> uh because it is a scenic highway uh but

2505
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:03,440
you know it's their nickel but I I

2506
01:41:03,440 --> 01:41:05,920
didn't get the feeling

2507
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:07,679
my sense was that they would want to

2508
01:41:07,679 --> 01:41:11,119
know what the that the residents of my

2509
01:41:11,119 --> 01:41:13,840
thought and the residents of Saratoga

2510
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:15,760
because the trees are in these two

2511
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:16,800
cities.

2512
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:19,360
Uh but the CalR

2513
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,920
one of the people I spoke to there her

2514
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:25,360
whole job was preserving scenic highways

2515
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,440
around the state. That's her job at

2516
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:30,159
Calrans. So I think they are very

2517
01:41:30,159 --> 01:41:34,480
sensitive that subject to fire safety

2518
01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:37,360
that to keep it as a scenic highway that

2519
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:40,320
we can all be very proud of. And so I

2520
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,000
would think that when we are inspection

2521
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:45,040
from Cal Friends, what we would do just

2522
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:46,800
like we're doing with this resolution is

2523
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:48,880
we'd send out special notice to all the

2524
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:53,199
residents and get input from the

2525
01:41:53,199 --> 01:41:55,679
residents because we're all neighbors.

2526
01:41:55,679 --> 01:41:59,520
We all live here. So I think that uh the

2527
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,960
uh as I say the the two people who won't

2528
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:04,639
be on the city council next year are

2529
01:42:04,639 --> 01:42:08,560
Chuck Page and myself. Uh but I am sure

2530
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,040
uh that [clears throat] you and uh

2531
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:14,800
council member Zyler will uh be reaching

2532
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,440
out uh just like we do on all major

2533
01:42:17,440 --> 01:42:19,520
issues. We want to hear from from the

2534
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:23,040
residents. Council member

2535
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,600
please was not I just want to make sure

2536
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:27,280
that that was clear. But that's very

2537
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:29,920
encouraging that you know Cal Rams if if

2538
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:31,679
this should happen that they'll work

2539
01:42:31,679 --> 01:42:33,600
with the city to keep our our city as

2540
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,760
beautiful as it is now is important I

2541
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,639
think to all of us. Um [clears throat]

2542
01:42:38,639 --> 01:42:41,440
council member Meccachuk brings up

2543
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:43,840
really good points about these trees and

2544
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,400
the difference in the trees and he even

2545
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:47,679
though I didn't know exactly where you

2546
01:42:47,679 --> 01:42:50,159
were talking about um there are other

2547
01:42:50,159 --> 01:42:52,239
big eucalyptus trees in our city. So,

2548
01:42:52,239 --> 01:42:53,760
aside from what we're talking about, the

2549
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:56,639
dangers of the ones on Highway 9, um I

2550
01:42:56,639 --> 01:42:58,639
think we need to be discussing these

2551
01:42:58,639 --> 01:43:00,560
other eucalyptus trees, and I know it

2552
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,239
has been discussed at council before,

2553
01:43:02,239 --> 01:43:04,159
but the ones that are on private

2554
01:43:04,159 --> 01:43:07,679
property, how we can encourage um owners

2555
01:43:07,679 --> 01:43:09,600
to remove those trees, how we can kind

2556
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,600
of just encourage over time getting some

2557
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:13,751
of these dangerous trees uh taken

2558
01:43:13,751 --> 01:43:14,960
[clears throat] down.

2559
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:18,080
>> I think you're Yes, you're exactly uh

2560
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:25,280
right. And um uh I didn't realize till

2561
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:30,320
I uh I got this uh memo this evening

2562
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:34,159
from Council Mechek that uh that the

2563
01:43:34,159 --> 01:43:37,280
eucalyptus of whatever variety on the

2564
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,119
sides were on the right way and that

2565
01:43:39,119 --> 01:43:42,719
Calrans had jurisdiction on it. And I

2566
01:43:42,719 --> 01:43:46,800
want to add to our resolution that that

2567
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,360
we want Calrans I my [clears throat]

2568
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:52,480
vote would be for Calr that any

2569
01:43:52,480 --> 01:43:55,040
eucalyptus streets on the state highway

2570
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:56,800
9 right away whether they're in the

2571
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,520
median or the sign it's the same danger.

2572
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,920
I just didn't realize before that those

2573
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,719
were on the highway 9 right away not on

2574
01:44:04,719 --> 01:44:06,800
private property.

2575
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:07,920
>> Um anything?

2576
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:09,040
>> No I'm done. Thank you.

2577
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,920
>> Okay. Council Member Craig. So, I'll

2578
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,239
simplify it by saying I'm going to

2579
01:44:14,239 --> 01:44:16,639
support this resolution. Now, I'm going

2580
01:44:16,639 --> 01:44:20,000
to kind of go off vote a little bit.

2581
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:21,760
First of all, I was on that call with

2582
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,679
you with CALR and they absolutely

2583
01:44:23,679 --> 01:44:26,800
presented that it was our responsibility

2584
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:29,119
to fund the removal of those trees. So,

2585
01:44:29,119 --> 01:44:31,440
you you did not get that wrong. Great.

2586
01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:34,560
>> And um it was very nice of u James to

2587
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,600
kind of set the record straight. And I

2588
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:40,639
and um I will also um if you're

2589
01:44:40,639 --> 01:44:42,639
listening Aver thank you very much for

2590
01:44:42,639 --> 01:44:45,280
bringing up this topic way back in 2013.

2591
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:47,119
This is this is how long we've been

2592
01:44:47,119 --> 01:44:49,920
trying to get something like this moving

2593
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:54,320
and every every discussion has just had

2594
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,400
a an outpouring of support from the

2595
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:58,320
community in favor. I know that there

2596
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,960
are a few folks that do not want to

2597
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:05,520
remove the trees, but I think once we um

2598
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,320
explain that we're not looking to take

2599
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,440
away the beauty of Highway 9, it's it's

2600
01:45:11,440 --> 01:45:14,000
understood what what our goal is here.

2601
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:20,080
Um I think the the the bigger issue, as I think Kelly was pointing out, was

2602
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:23,440
the massive massive trees that are on

2603
01:45:23,440 --> 01:45:28,639
the side of Highway 90, though. Um, and by the way, um, thank you very much

2604
01:45:28,639 --> 01:45:31,920
for noticing that, uh, Calran came out,

2605
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:33,440
uh, I guess it was after our

2606
01:45:33,440 --> 01:45:35,440
conversation we had with them and they

2607
01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:37,600
went out and and took care of 68 of

2608
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:39,360
those trees and they look a lot nicer

2609
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,679
now. Um,

2610
01:45:41,679 --> 01:45:45,600
but there's also a very large issue with

2611
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,920
not only the trees on either side of

2612
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,239
Highway 9, but we also had that same

2613
01:45:50,239 --> 01:45:52,800
issue on Winchester. And I don't want to

2614
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:54,480
forget about Winchester in this whole

2615
01:45:54,480 --> 01:45:56,080
discussion, but I know we're focusing on

2616
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:59,119
Highway 9 and there's some on Dave on

2617
01:45:59,119 --> 01:46:02,880
Dave's Avenue before the school and I

2618
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,520
don't know again if it's on

2619
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:09,199
uh part of the rightway or not on the

2620
01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:11,840
rightway it that wouldn't be Calr's

2621
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:14,719
nickel that our nickel is on private

2622
01:46:14,719 --> 01:46:16,719
property. I agree with Vice Mayor

2623
01:46:16,719 --> 01:46:18,400
Shannon.

2624
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:23,040
uh we have to find a way to uh approach

2625
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:24,560
residents

2626
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,719
uh see if they but I think the first

2627
01:46:26,719 --> 01:46:27,920
thing to figure out if it's on the

2628
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:28,719
rightway or not.

2629
01:46:28,719 --> 01:46:30,719
>> Yeah. Yeah. So again I know we're

2630
01:46:30,719 --> 01:46:32,400
focusing on the rightway but this is

2631
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,080
where I'm going off book even a little

2632
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:37,920
bit more now. Um, over the years we have

2633
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,000
done everything that I think we can as a

2634
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,440
city council to make it easy for these

2635
01:46:43,440 --> 01:46:46,719
trees to be removed by the owners of the

2636
01:46:46,719 --> 01:46:49,040
property that they're on. Anything. The

2637
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:50,719
only thing we can't do is pay you to do

2638
01:46:50,719 --> 01:46:53,679
it. And I know that the cost to remove

2639
01:46:53,679 --> 01:46:59,679
these trees are substantial, upwards of $20,000 if you have a 50ft plus uh

2640
01:46:59,679 --> 01:47:02,320
eucalyptus tree on your property. And I

2641
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:04,560
know that because my neighbor who had an

2642
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:07,280
80ft tree cost it cost her about 20

2643
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:09,520
grand to remove it. And she only did so

2644
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:12,400
after 2,000 lb branches fell. One of

2645
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,239
them almost killing my wife missed her

2646
01:47:14,239 --> 01:47:16,080
by about 6 f feet. The other one

2647
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,560
destroyed the front of her car. So she

2648
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:18,960
finally

2649
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:20,639
>> was that highly motivated to do that.

2650
01:47:20,639 --> 01:47:22,080
>> She was a little bit more motivated

2651
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:25,199
after my after it smashed my little

2652
01:47:25,199 --> 01:47:30,960
bunny rabbit. But no. Um yeah. So, I understand that there's a

2653
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:34,719
huge cost for these things. Um, the the

2654
01:47:34,719 --> 01:47:36,480
last thing that I wanted to point out

2655
01:47:36,480 --> 01:47:39,360
though is we have a lot of eucalyptus

2656
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,800
trees in the city. And

2657
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,520
it's not really practical to say we're

2658
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,360
going to get rid of them all, especially

2659
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:49,360
by the time that the next big fire is

2660
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:51,360
going to get here. We could definitely

2661
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:54,400
mitigate it, especially working on the

2662
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,800
median strip of Highway 9. But I think

2663
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:58,400
just to think a little bit out of the

2664
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:00,639
box, the other thing we should take a

2665
01:48:00,639 --> 01:48:04,400
look at is some type of mechanism to

2666
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:07,440
quickly clear either Highway 9 or

2667
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:10,080
Winchester should one of these trees

2668
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:13,520
fall and block the roads. And they do

2669
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,080
make this type of machinery. They're

2670
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,880
called tree sharers or excavators or

2671
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:20,480
there's a number of different types of

2672
01:48:20,480 --> 01:48:23,600
these machines and it might be something

2673
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,760
to take a look at especially as Chuck

2674
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:27,920
was was talking about a CRD. That was

2675
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:29,760
one of the things I'm thinking about.

2676
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:32,400
You know, we put two of these things

2677
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,960
inside of Minus Areno in Saratoga. One

2678
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:36,960
in our parking lot, one over on the

2679
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:40,800
corner of Saratoga and Highway 9. And if

2680
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:42,880
any trees fall on Saratoga, these things

2681
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:45,119
roll out and they get rid of these trees

2682
01:48:45,119 --> 01:48:47,199
immediately. Same thing if it was to

2683
01:48:47,199 --> 01:48:50,159
happen on Winchester. So, you know,

2684
01:48:50,159 --> 01:48:52,719
let's let's keep our minds uh you know,

2685
01:48:52,719 --> 01:48:55,600
let's expand this a little bit

2686
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:56,880
where we

2687
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:58,960
>> we [clears throat] have to be thinking

2688
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:01,119
outside of the box and we have to be

2689
01:49:01,119 --> 01:49:04,320
proactive. I absolutely agree. Uh,

2690
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:08,390
council member Magichek.

2691
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:10,239
» I just want to say one one last thing

2692
01:49:10,239 --> 01:49:13,199
and and as one speaker um also pointed

2693
01:49:13,199 --> 01:49:16,080
out because this this was something that

2694
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:19,280
Alr threw out and and immediately I was

2695
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,760
like, "Oh my god, you're you're really

2696
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,159
going to do this." They they really

2697
01:49:24,159 --> 01:49:26,560
started to go on this. There's the red

2698
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:28,320
iron bark and then there's the blue

2699
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:30,159
spruce and some of these burn in this

2700
01:49:30,159 --> 01:49:31,679
direction and some of them will burn at

2701
01:49:31,679 --> 01:49:33,520
this. Let me tell you something. When a

2702
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:35,199
fire comes rolling down this hill at

2703
01:49:35,199 --> 01:49:38,320
2,000° plus, it's going to burn. I don't

2704
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:39,920
care what kind of tree it is, unless

2705
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:42,080
it's a concrete tree, it's going to

2706
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:44,239
burn. And if it's concrete tree, it's

2707
01:49:44,239 --> 01:49:47,119
just going to burn a little bit slower.

2708
01:49:47,119 --> 01:49:49,520
Cuz if you've never seen concrete melt,

2709
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:51,760
it's actually a pretty amazing thing to

2710
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,320
see. So, I don't care what kind of tree

2711
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:57,199
it is. Um,

2712
01:49:57,199 --> 01:50:00,960
I'm going to support this motion. Yeah,

2713
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:03,119
>> I'm about ready. I'm all done.

2714
01:50:03,119 --> 01:50:05,920
>> Council, is there anything that is not

2715
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:07,600
in your memorandum that you'd like to

2716
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:10,000
add before I bring this to a vote?

2717
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:11,679
>> Absolutely.

2718
01:50:11,679 --> 01:50:14,159
>> If you if you would I believe this

2719
01:50:14,159 --> 01:50:19,360
motion is limited to the center median

2720
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:22,800
of Highway 9. So therefore, we can't

2721
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:24,960
discuss items that are outside of the

2722
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:29,199
scope of that. Is that correct?

2723
01:50:29,199 --> 01:50:32,080
So the item on the agenda is to discuss

2724
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:34,000
to take action on the median. If you

2725
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:35,600
wanted to take action on anything

2726
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:37,119
outside of the median, we would have to

2727
01:50:37,119 --> 01:50:39,280
bring it back for at a future meeting.

2728
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:42,239
>> Just a point of order here. We have to

2729
01:50:42,239 --> 01:50:45,040
take this action if we want Calrans to

2730
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:48,000
move forward with this though. Correct.

2731
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,800
>> I don't believe we are required to. I

2732
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:52,000
think they understand

2733
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,400
>> based on my conversations we do.

2734
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:55,440
>> Yes.

2735
01:50:55,440 --> 01:50:58,719
>> So, so our goal here tonight is to get

2736
01:50:58,719 --> 01:51:00,719
this particular

2737
01:51:00,719 --> 01:51:02,400
operation moving forward though.

2738
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:05,360
>> Yes.

2739
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:08,639
>> Well, yeah. I would draw council's

2740
01:51:08,639 --> 01:51:16,790
attention to page 11 in the document.

2741
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:18,800
I I might say for the record that

2742
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:20,159
getting something before the meeting

2743
01:51:20,159 --> 01:51:23,360
started. I've not had a chance. I I

2744
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:24,960
appreciate that. That's why I'm going to

2745
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:28,400
page 11. What I'd like to do is support

2746
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:32,320
the following motion. Um and any council

2747
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:33,920
member that wants to make it.

2748
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:35,840
>> I'm not asking you to make a motion.

2749
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:38,719
>> Just just may I make my comment, please?

2750
01:51:38,719 --> 01:51:40,560
You may make your comment. You may not

2751
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:42,719
make a motion.

2752
01:51:42,719 --> 01:51:44,560
>> Okay.

2753
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:47,520
I believe this item should be continued

2754
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:51,280
to our meeting on September the 1st

2755
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:55,199
regarding the removal of trees and

2756
01:51:55,199 --> 01:51:58,080
taking action on the south side of

2757
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:00,000
Highway 9 as well. So, we're expanding

2758
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:02,000
the scope of them. Not saying that we

2759
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,800
can't do anything at that meeting, but

2760
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,119
between now and then, we can certainly

2761
01:52:07,119 --> 01:52:09,760
ask Calrans not necessarily to remove

2762
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:14,480
the trees, but to remove the the the

2763
01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:18,639
litter under that's caused by the one

2764
01:52:18,639 --> 01:52:22,320
grove of trees by Montalvo Oaks that's

2765
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:26,159
near our highest density um

2766
01:52:26,159 --> 01:52:29,599
uh per acre housing in the city of

2767
01:52:29,599 --> 01:52:31,520
Monteno. and there and it's all set

2768
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:33,520
forth in this and I apologize Lon for

2769
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,040
you getting this at the last minute and

2770
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:36,960
not being able to go through it but

2771
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:38,800
you've worked on this for some time and

2772
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:42,239
so have I and in fact I know and to get

2773
01:52:42,239 --> 01:52:45,040
to another point that was raised um

2774
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:49,360
there the trees the trees the red the

2775
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:52,960
red iron bark trees in the median were

2776
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:56,480
planted 50 ft on center and there were

2777
01:52:56,480 --> 01:52:59,440
two instances where they're they are 100

2778
01:52:59,440 --> 01:53:00,639
ft apart

2779
01:53:00,639 --> 01:53:04,159
I measured with council member Torrent

2780
01:53:04,159 --> 01:53:06,719
on Sunday morning. We went there and we

2781
01:53:06,719 --> 01:53:10,560
walked through the media and there's one

2782
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:12,880
instance where there's two missing. So

2783
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:14,880
previously when the trees were removed

2784
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:17,679
by Calrans, they were not replaced and

2785
01:53:17,679 --> 01:53:20,480
they need to be replaced. So there's and

2786
01:53:20,480 --> 01:53:22,719
you can see those two gaps there and

2787
01:53:22,719 --> 01:53:25,440
they're 50 ft on center exactly except

2788
01:53:25,440 --> 01:53:28,800
in three locations. Those were car

2789
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:30,080
accidents. They had mentioned that

2790
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:31,840
during our conversation we had them from

2791
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:33,840
last year.

2792
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:37,679
>> U so

2793
01:53:37,679 --> 01:53:40,790
yes

2794
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:45,440
» I believe and I ask that this item be

2795
01:53:45,440 --> 01:53:47,199
continued

2796
01:53:47,199 --> 01:53:50,000
to September the 1st and broaden the

2797
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:54,080
scope to include the south side of

2798
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,960
Highway 9. No, I understand.

2799
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:58,719
Okay.

2800
01:53:58,719 --> 01:53:59,280
Uh,

2801
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:01,599
>> are you taking more comments?

2802
01:54:01,599 --> 01:54:03,760
>> No, I

2803
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:06,880
No, I'm going to make a motion that we

2804
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:09,679
have approved the thing that is on the

2805
01:54:09,679 --> 01:54:12,320
agenda. We could do things on the south

2806
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,400
side and other there are a lot of things

2807
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:16,880
we could do, but I want to get the train

2808
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:19,360
out of the station. So, I am making a

2809
01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:22,000
motion that we approve the items on the

2810
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:23,360
agenda.

2811
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:25,199
I

2812
01:54:25,199 --> 01:54:28,159
am going to second that motion because

2813
01:54:28,159 --> 01:54:29,840
we have been promising to do something

2814
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:32,080
about this and I really do not want to

2815
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:34,639
have any more continuences. And if we h

2816
01:54:34,639 --> 01:54:37,440
and this gets the ball rolling and from

2817
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:40,880
the center we can go to the um outside

2818
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:43,599
of Highway 9 and work from there. But

2819
01:54:43,599 --> 01:54:45,040
this is something that our residents

2820
01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:52,000
have been asking for for years and years and we've discussed discussed. So that's my second.

2821
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:55,199
>> Madam city attorney, is this a roll call

2822
01:54:55,199 --> 01:54:56,560
or a quick

2823
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:58,159
>> Are we able to make any comments?

2824
01:54:58,159 --> 01:55:00,960
>> Yeah. So um once you vote on it, it will

2825
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:02,719
be a roll call vote.

2826
01:55:02,719 --> 01:55:06,719
>> Okay. U so there's a motion

2827
01:55:06,719 --> 01:55:10,639
there people comment on the motion.

2828
01:55:10,639 --> 01:55:12,400
>> Technically someone can call for the

2829
01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:14,880
question and require the vote. Um but

2830
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:17,280
typically you would allow comments.

2831
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:18,800
>> Okay.

2832
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:21,520
Do you want to go first? Yeah, you

2833
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:25,510
>> um so

2834
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,719
we are going to talk to Katrans about

2835
01:55:28,719 --> 01:55:34,870
the uh and root nucleot

2836
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:36,400
in the media

2837
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:38,400
>> in the media.

2838
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,599
However, in the course of conversation

2839
01:55:41,599 --> 01:55:43,440
with Calrans,

2840
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:48,080
there may be o other options or maybe in

2841
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:50,639
other words, there may be like um a

2842
01:55:50,639 --> 01:55:53,360
phased a phased approach because there

2843
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:56,480
are there there are other other areas

2844
01:55:56,480 --> 01:56:00,960
that do contain rather large eucalyptus

2845
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:04,880
trees that are extremely of the red gum

2846
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:08,960
species of blue, whatever you said. Uh,

2847
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:12,239
and so I, you know, I I I had this

2848
01:56:12,239 --> 01:56:14,639
notion that we we were going to have a

2849
01:56:14,639 --> 01:56:18,080
conversation with Calrans about our

2850
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:21,040
priorities and state our case, but they

2851
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,520
may have a different but we've had a

2852
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:25,280
number of conversations in

2853
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:27,119
>> but it hasn't gone anywhere. Well, but

2854
01:56:27,119 --> 01:56:30,639
they've never said that some of these

2855
01:56:30,639 --> 01:56:32,800
trees were they've never made the

2856
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:35,679
distinctions that council member has

2857
01:56:35,679 --> 01:56:38,159
made that they're they the only thing

2858
01:56:38,159 --> 01:56:42,480
they've said is it's a state highway.

2859
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:44,000
We have permission.

2860
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:48,159
>> Understand? And uh but they but it's

2861
01:56:48,159 --> 01:56:50,159
also clear to me that they are removing

2862
01:56:50,159 --> 01:56:53,520
eucalyptus trees around the state and we

2863
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,320
are not asking for special treatment to

2864
01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:58,320
jump the queue. What I want to do

2865
01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:00,880
tonight is as council member I want to

2866
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:04,239
get the law rolling to have a resolution

2867
01:57:04,239 --> 01:57:06,159
because also one of the things that

2868
01:57:06,159 --> 01:57:08,320
they've said in past conversations is

2869
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,199
well you your council hasn't asked us to

2870
01:57:11,199 --> 01:57:15,920
remove these trees and u uh I've heard

2871
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:22,000
that from uh uh uh supervisor

2872
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:24,639
and from Perin that we need a city

2873
01:57:24,639 --> 01:57:26,960
council resolution to get the train

2874
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:29,119
where the council says we want these

2875
01:57:29,119 --> 01:57:31,280
trees removed. That's what I want to do

2876
01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:32,800
this evening and that's why I made the

2877
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:35,840
motion. But but in the course of

2878
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:38,960
conversation with Calr might be there

2879
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:40,320
might be a phased approach. There might

2880
01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:42,080
be alternatives. There might be options.

2881
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:44,400
There might be other considerations.

2882
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:47,599
Maybe they'll say no. In fact, we don't

2883
01:57:47,599 --> 01:57:49,440
we we aren't going to pay for it. You're

2884
01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:52,080
going to pay for it. Well, so I I don't

2885
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:53,679
know.

2886
01:57:53,679 --> 01:57:56,320
>> We don't know until we get there. Well,

2887
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:58,800
>> so we can make any resolution or motion

2888
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:01,119
we want, but I think we need to be a

2889
01:58:01,119 --> 01:58:03,679
little more open, not adversarial, not

2890
01:58:03,679 --> 01:58:05,280
go in and demand

2891
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:06,320
>> adversarial,

2892
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:08,400
>> but have a conversation with them that

2893
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:11,599
they are much more uh expert than we are

2894
01:58:11,599 --> 01:58:12,880
on this subject.

2895
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:14,880
>> We have to the train has to leave it.

2896
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:15,520
That's why

2897
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:19,599
>> Well, I'm I'm okay. Anyway, I I would

2898
01:58:19,599 --> 01:58:22,719
call the question I mad the city

2899
01:58:22,719 --> 01:58:24,639
attorney, I can do that, I assume, and

2900
01:58:24,639 --> 01:58:26,800
let vote on this.

2901
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:28,719
>> I I

2902
01:58:28,719 --> 01:58:31,599
>> I mean, you know, if we're not, you

2903
01:58:31,599 --> 01:58:32,800
know, some of us have been working on

2904
01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:35,920
this for a number of years, Kevin, and

2905
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:39,440
we have to get the train. Uh

2906
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:41,040
I agree with council member Craig. We

2907
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:43,760
have to get this thing going.

2908
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:45,840
That goes to the point of council member

2909
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:47,760
Makachuk.

2910
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:50,960
Yes, I think we should kind of get the train rolling. I mean, a lot of

2911
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:53,040
work's been done behind it, but if there

2912
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:55,440
are additional trees that are Altrans

2913
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:58,480
trees, we should be conscious of that

2914
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:01,679
and try to pull those. I don't want to

2915
01:59:01,679 --> 01:59:03,840
preclude those trees because

2916
01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:05,280
>> the only reason we talked about the

2917
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:08,800
median is that for no one before I

2918
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:10,960
didn't understand that the those trees

2919
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:13,360
were not on private property or we would

2920
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,440
have had

2921
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:17,360
a resolution. I think the next

2922
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:20,000
resolution is that all the trees that

2923
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:22,000
are on the on the state.

2924
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:24,480
>> So that's a separate that's thing that

2925
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:30,790
we could do out of a future meeting.

2926
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:32,560
Please.

2927
01:59:32,560 --> 02:00:41,830
Okay.

2928
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:43,920
Hi, good evening. This is city clerk

2929
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:45,599
here with the city of Monino. We'd like

2930
02:00:45,599 --> 02:00:48,480
to inform you that we're having a quick

2931
02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:50,800
5m minute break. Unfortunately, we had a

2932
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:54,080
system issue. So, we'll go ahead and

2933
02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:56,320
restart as as soon as we get the

2934
02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:57,840
computer started. Just give us about

2935
02:00:57,840 --> 02:08:58,149
five minutes. Thank you.

2936
02:08:58,159 --> 02:09:02,179
Jack

2937
02:09:02,189 --> 02:09:05,430
[clears throat]

2938
02:09:05,440 --> 02:09:08,480
the bus.

2939
02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:11,520
>> I think we're back.

2940
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:13,440
>> And I'm going to call the question and

2941
02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:16,480
I'm told I need a second. Great. I will

2942
02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:19,280
second that. Okay. Then madam city

2943
02:09:19,280 --> 02:09:21,040
clerk, let's have a roll call vote on

2944
02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:26,069
this, please.

2945
02:09:26,079 --> 02:09:27,840
» Uh, council member mech.

2946
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:30,079
>> Nay.

2947
02:09:30,079 --> 02:09:31,520
>> Council member Torren,

2948
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:33,199
>> nay. [clears throat]

2949
02:09:33,199 --> 02:09:34,400
>> Council member Freight,

2950
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:36,719
>> yes.

2951
02:09:36,719 --> 02:09:38,079
>> Vice Mayor Shannon,

2952
02:09:38,079 --> 02:09:39,520
>> yes.

2953
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:40,719
>> And Mayor Allen,

2954
02:09:40,719 --> 02:09:41,920
>> yes.

2955
02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:45,280
>> Motion passes. Three to two.

2956
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:48,719
>> Okay. Um, may I make your comment?

2957
02:09:48,719 --> 02:09:50,480
>> Absolutely.

2958
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:53,679
I believe that a motion that's unanimous

2959
02:09:53,679 --> 02:09:57,280
would carry more weight externally

2960
02:09:57,280 --> 02:10:01,360
and if you bring it back uh as

2961
02:10:01,360 --> 02:10:05,199
recommended on the next meeting, then I

2962
02:10:05,199 --> 02:10:07,199
think you would have a unanimous vote.

2963
02:10:07,199 --> 02:10:09,440
>> I think that's a great suggestion and I

2964
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:11,599
would be very pleased to do that at the

2965
02:10:11,599 --> 02:10:14,800
next meeting. that encompass the um

2966
02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:16,639
cattle trains everything on cattle

2967
02:10:16,639 --> 02:10:20,320
trains. Yeah. Uh as I say I I never

2968
02:10:20,320 --> 02:10:22,560
realized until this evening with all the

2969
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:26,480
discussions that the eucalyptus

2970
02:10:26,480 --> 02:10:31,199
were on the right of so that's valuation

2971
02:10:31,199 --> 02:10:36,159
u item seven u the volunteers

2972
02:10:36,159 --> 02:10:40,159
for commission is really council member

2973
02:10:40,159 --> 02:10:44,079
I assume she is that council I think

2974
02:10:44,079 --> 02:10:48,000
we're on are we on six vote Oh, excuse

2975
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:49,520
me. You're right. The discussion which

2976
02:10:49,520 --> 02:10:52,719
is also your thing. So, uh Matt, city

2977
02:10:52,719 --> 02:10:55,199
manager, are you going to present or

2978
02:10:55,199 --> 02:10:57,760
council to wrote

2979
02:10:57,760 --> 02:11:00,320
>> you could just give a quick introduction

2980
02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:02,400
um about how this item ended up on our

2981
02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:04,159
agenda? Uh this item was placed on the

2982
02:11:04,159 --> 02:11:06,159
agenda tonight at the request of council

2983
02:11:06,159 --> 02:11:07,840
member Torren to discuss how the city

2984
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:10,159
communicates with the community. Um,

2985
02:11:10,159 --> 02:11:12,800
currently the city uses um the website

2986
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:15,440
and email distribution list, social

2987
02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:17,520
media, and the semi annual peaceful

2988
02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:19,040
mountain monitor as methods of

2989
02:11:19,040 --> 02:11:20,800
communication with the committee, I'm

2990
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:23,040
sorry, with the community. And um

2991
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:24,719
attached to the staff report is a

2992
02:11:24,719 --> 02:11:27,199
listing of emails and social media posts

2993
02:11:27,199 --> 02:11:28,960
that were sent for the first half of

2994
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:31,360
this calendar year um just to give

2995
02:11:31,360 --> 02:11:33,360
council um a summary of the different

2996
02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:36,320
types of topics that have been sent out.

2997
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:38,560
And um with that bit of background

2998
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:40,639
information, I'll ask council member

2999
02:11:40,639 --> 02:11:43,599
Torin to provide his additional yeah

3000
02:11:43,599 --> 02:11:45,040
discussion points.

3001
02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:48,800
>> Um this really came about when I was

3002
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:52,079
appointed to the council and spoke to

3003
02:11:52,079 --> 02:11:55,840
people about um this experience being on

3004
02:11:55,840 --> 02:12:00,320
the council and was asked well we don't

3005
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:02,000
hear much about what's going on in

3006
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:04,239
Monserina. I don't really know what you

3007
02:12:04,239 --> 02:12:06,800
know and not not not knowing what what I

3008
02:12:06,800 --> 02:12:08,800
do you know what I do as a count what a

3009
02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:10,880
council member does

3010
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:15,760
what happens in the in the city they you know there was this this notion

3011
02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:19,520
that they weren't communicated with so

3012
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:21,679
you know I thought that's kind of odd

3013
02:12:21,679 --> 02:12:23,199
you know that's there's something we

3014
02:12:23,199 --> 02:12:26,480
could do about that so

3015
02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:28,000
I don't think this has to be a lengthy

3016
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:30,960
dis discussion I know that we do we have

3017
02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:33,760
the peace peaceful

3018
02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:35,679
>> mountain

3019
02:12:35,679 --> 02:12:38,079
>> monitor and that's twice a year.

3020
02:12:38,079 --> 02:12:38,719
>> That's correct.

3021
02:12:38,719 --> 02:12:43,119
>> Right. And we do not have a newsletter

3022
02:12:43,119 --> 02:12:46,480
per se. We do have we have email blasts.

3023
02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:47,119
>> That's correct.

3024
02:12:47,119 --> 02:12:52,480
>> Right. Um and I just feel and and that's

3025
02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:56,480
sometimes to report on meeting notices

3026
02:12:56,480 --> 02:13:00,000
plus other other other things. Right.

3027
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:02,239
Correct. Okay.

3028
02:13:02,239 --> 02:13:05,520
It just occurs to me that, you know, we

3029
02:13:05,520 --> 02:13:07,599
always say we wish that people would be

3030
02:13:07,599 --> 02:13:09,440
more engaged in our community. We wish

3031
02:13:09,440 --> 02:13:11,119
that they would know more, wish that

3032
02:13:11,119 --> 02:13:12,560
they would, you know, come out to things

3033
02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:17,440
and volunteer, etc. Um, and if we don't

3034
02:13:17,440 --> 02:13:20,239
broadcast what we're doing and we don't

3035
02:13:20,239 --> 02:13:22,639
share what we're doing and not it's not

3036
02:13:22,639 --> 02:13:24,079
only what each of the council members

3037
02:13:24,079 --> 02:13:25,599
are doing but all the committees that

3038
02:13:25,599 --> 02:13:27,280
they serve on which I think could be of

3039
02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:30,719
interest to to to many people not only

3040
02:13:30,719 --> 02:13:32,560
from the city perspective but from a

3041
02:13:32,560 --> 02:13:34,719
regional perspective.

3042
02:13:34,719 --> 02:13:37,040
I think we need to think about how we

3043
02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:45,280
can broaden our uh communication with the residents of the city. I think

3044
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:48,560
that goes hand inand with engagement. So

3045
02:13:48,560 --> 02:13:51,280
we just talked about CRD as a you know a

3046
02:13:51,280 --> 02:13:53,040
possible thing that we're going to

3047
02:13:53,040 --> 02:13:54,960
consider and that's going to involve

3048
02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:57,840
engagement with the the public having

3049
02:13:57,840 --> 02:14:00,719
residents involved. Um we have a picnic

3050
02:14:00,719 --> 02:14:02,560
that we have. I mean, wouldn't it be

3051
02:14:02,560 --> 02:14:05,119
great if we had maybe a committee or a

3052
02:14:05,119 --> 02:14:07,440
people or some some group that would be

3053
02:14:07,440 --> 02:14:09,679
involved in this? We have citizen of the

3054
02:14:09,679 --> 02:14:12,239
year. Maybe it would be nice to have

3055
02:14:12,239 --> 02:14:15,280
some residents involved with. So,

3056
02:14:15,280 --> 02:14:17,040
>> you're sort of slipping over to item

3057
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:17,599
seven.

3058
02:14:17,599 --> 02:14:20,320
>> Well, I'm I'm What I'm saying

3059
02:14:20,320 --> 02:14:22,480
>> what I'm saying is it's part of

3060
02:14:22,480 --> 02:14:23,920
>> you're saying the two sides of the same

3061
02:14:23,920 --> 02:14:24,560
coin.

3062
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:26,800
>> They're essentially the same. I know I

3063
02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:28,079
know the city attorney is going to talk

3064
02:14:28,079 --> 02:14:33,440
about the the the notion of volunteers. That's

3065
02:14:33,440 --> 02:14:36,400
a different subject but it goes hand in

3066
02:14:36,400 --> 02:14:40,560
hand. Um there is a platform that I'm

3067
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:44,000
aware of which I um can share with you

3068
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:45,920
separately. I've shared it with a few of

3069
02:14:45,920 --> 02:14:49,840
you called my go tools and it was it's

3070
02:14:49,840 --> 02:14:51,920
developed actually by the mayor of Santa

3071
02:14:51,920 --> 02:14:55,280
Monaco uh Lana Negretti and I spoke to

3072
02:14:55,280 --> 02:14:57,840
her and someone from her team and she

3073
02:14:57,840 --> 02:14:59,440
developed this because she was

3074
02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:02,400
experiencing the same thing that that I

3075
02:15:02,400 --> 02:15:05,280
I'm I'm experiencing and perhaps you are

3076
02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:09,199
too a lack of communication with the

3077
02:15:09,199 --> 02:15:14,400
city um and uh and a lack of sharing

3078
02:15:14,400 --> 02:15:18,079
information. So, I think it's something

3079
02:15:18,079 --> 02:15:21,679
that we should think about using. It's a

3080
02:15:21,679 --> 02:15:24,880
tool that helps both council members

3081
02:15:24,880 --> 02:15:27,199
individually communicate with their

3082
02:15:27,199 --> 02:15:29,119
constituents as well as the city

3083
02:15:29,119 --> 02:15:31,760
communicate with their constituents. Uh,

3084
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:34,320
I get Rob Mayor Rob Moore's uh,

3085
02:15:34,320 --> 02:15:38,159
newsletter which is highly effective and

3086
02:15:38,159 --> 02:15:40,560
um, there's so many people that look

3087
02:15:40,560 --> 02:15:43,199
forward to it and share it and just love

3088
02:15:43,199 --> 02:15:47,119
the information that he provides. So

3089
02:15:47,119 --> 02:15:49,599
I don't make one comment on that

3090
02:15:49,599 --> 02:15:50,400
briefly.

3091
02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:52,480
>> He pays for that himself. That's not a

3092
02:15:52,480 --> 02:15:52,960
Cindy.

3093
02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:55,599
>> I'm just saying yeah that's great. You

3094
02:15:55,599 --> 02:15:58,880
know that's certainly an option. I I

3095
02:15:58,880 --> 02:16:01,840
just feel that we have social media

3096
02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:05,360
posts. We have a website that I think

3097
02:16:05,360 --> 02:16:08,960
needs some attention. We have um we

3098
02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:10,880
don't have a newsletter. We have a

3099
02:16:10,880 --> 02:16:13,599
publication twice a year. That doesn't

3100
02:16:13,599 --> 02:16:15,520
seem to be enough for all the things

3101
02:16:15,520 --> 02:16:20,400
that all we're doing. can u I've heard

3102
02:16:20,400 --> 02:16:25,599
that I am not aware of anything the city

3103
02:16:25,599 --> 02:16:29,280
is doing that isn't in the emails that

3104
02:16:29,280 --> 02:16:32,000
we send out. So with people and of

3105
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:34,160
course I think one of the goals at

3106
02:16:34,160 --> 02:16:36,880
picnic is to get more of our residents

3107
02:16:36,880 --> 02:16:40,399
to sign up but offhand I can't think of

3108
02:16:40,399 --> 02:16:44,559
anything that the city is doing that

3109
02:16:44,559 --> 02:16:47,200
hasn't been sent out in email. I've been

3110
02:16:47,200 --> 02:16:50,240
curious, are there some things that you

3111
02:16:50,240 --> 02:16:53,280
think that you're aware of in the last

3112
02:16:53,280 --> 02:16:55,920
couple years that the city is is doing

3113
02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:57,920
that we haven't notified the res?

3114
02:16:57,920 --> 02:16:59,679
>> Well, I I've been in the city for I

3115
02:16:59,679 --> 02:17:01,120
don't know probably four or five years

3116
02:17:01,120 --> 02:17:02,880
now. And before coming on council, I

3117
02:17:02,880 --> 02:17:05,200
didn't know anything of what was

3118
02:17:05,200 --> 02:17:07,200
happening other than other than through

3119
02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:08,960
Melissa who you know.

3120
02:17:08,960 --> 02:17:10,960
>> Well, did you were you were you getting

3121
02:17:10,960 --> 02:17:12,559
all the emails?

3122
02:17:12,559 --> 02:17:15,359
>> I don't I don't think so. Well, but had

3123
02:17:15,359 --> 02:17:18,479
you what I'm trying to find out is if

3124
02:17:18,479 --> 02:17:20,960
someone has signed up to get our email

3125
02:17:20,960 --> 02:17:26,800
traffic, I'm not aware of anything we're doing

3126
02:17:26,800 --> 02:17:28,880
that we're not already notifying the

3127
02:17:28,880 --> 02:17:33,190
people about. So,

3128
02:17:33,200 --> 02:17:35,760
you know, it may not be the most

3129
02:17:35,760 --> 02:17:38,559
effective way to communicate. I don't

3130
02:17:38,559 --> 02:17:40,880
think we have a very good social media

3131
02:17:40,880 --> 02:17:44,319
presence. I I don't think we are

3132
02:17:44,319 --> 02:17:47,439
frequently enough posting things and get

3133
02:17:47,439 --> 02:17:50,559
and and sending out information and ju

3134
02:17:50,559 --> 02:17:51,120
just

3135
02:17:51,120 --> 02:17:53,040
>> you don't have you have any examples

3136
02:17:53,040 --> 02:17:55,280
>> just in general about what we're doing

3137
02:17:55,280 --> 02:17:57,200
about what the council members are doing

3138
02:17:57,200 --> 02:17:58,800
about the the things that we're

3139
02:17:58,800 --> 02:18:01,120
attending about all the things you know

3140
02:18:01,120 --> 02:18:03,040
we we've attended a a variety of

3141
02:18:03,040 --> 02:18:05,679
wildfire things lately we should be

3142
02:18:05,679 --> 02:18:09,120
sharing that um you know I mean all the

3143
02:18:09,120 --> 02:18:11,200
things all the things that come up that

3144
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:13,200
We attend,

3145
02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:16,639
we go, we get information and then we

3146
02:18:16,639 --> 02:18:18,479
bring it back to council. We share it,

3147
02:18:18,479 --> 02:18:20,399
we apply it, but we don't share.

3148
02:18:20,399 --> 02:18:22,399
>> Well, no, it's it's in our minutes

3149
02:18:22,399 --> 02:18:24,240
through through the chair.

3150
02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:25,519
>> Yeah, please.

3151
02:18:25,519 --> 02:18:26,000
>> Yeah.

3152
02:18:26,000 --> 02:18:27,519
>> Um,

3153
02:18:27,519 --> 02:18:30,399
this is a topic that we have talked

3154
02:18:30,399 --> 02:18:34,399
about a lot over the years and um before

3155
02:18:34,399 --> 02:18:37,359
I came on the council, I try not to say

3156
02:18:37,359 --> 02:18:40,560
that too often.

3157
02:18:40,560 --> 02:18:43,190
>> [clears throat]

3158
02:18:43,200 --> 02:18:45,840
» We used to give jelly out to new

3159
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:48,800
residents. So when a new person moved

3160
02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:50,719
into the city, we would welcome them

3161
02:18:50,719 --> 02:18:53,040
with a jar of jelly.

3162
02:18:53,040 --> 02:18:56,240
>> And and a little newsletter that said,

3163
02:18:56,240 --> 02:18:58,479
"Here are the resources that your city

3164
02:18:58,479 --> 02:18:59,439
has offered you."

3165
02:18:59,439 --> 02:19:00,319
>> That's nice.

3166
02:19:00,319 --> 02:19:03,920
>> And um it just as we continued to get a

3167
02:19:03,920 --> 02:19:06,479
high turnover, it it was just

3168
02:19:06,479 --> 02:19:11,359
impractical to do that. And as

3169
02:19:11,359 --> 02:19:14,559
I will also say back back in the day,

3170
02:19:14,559 --> 02:19:17,439
you know, we didn't have

3171
02:19:17,439 --> 02:19:19,760
4,000 telephone books thick worth of

3172
02:19:19,760 --> 02:19:21,760
regulations that our staff had to deal

3173
02:19:21,760 --> 02:19:24,000
with every day either. And it's gotten

3174
02:19:24,000 --> 02:19:27,920
to the point where the stuff that would

3175
02:19:27,920 --> 02:19:30,719
the stuff that we would have our the

3176
02:19:30,719 --> 02:19:33,280
stuff that staff would need to do to be

3177
02:19:33,280 --> 02:19:35,679
able to have any meaningful impact on a

3178
02:19:35,679 --> 02:19:38,160
social media account be able to generate

3179
02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:40,399
enough traffic to be able to generate

3180
02:19:40,399 --> 02:19:42,240
enough hits that it would start to get

3181
02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:45,840
into people's algorithm is going to be

3182
02:19:45,840 --> 02:19:49,120
very very time consuming for our staff

3183
02:19:49,120 --> 02:19:50,640
and

3184
02:19:50,640 --> 02:19:53,040
at at some point I have to push back on

3185
02:19:53,040 --> 02:19:54,960
people that tell me this stuff and say,

3186
02:19:54,960 --> 02:19:58,640
"How much effort have you put out there?

3187
02:19:58,640 --> 02:20:00,960
How many have you even tried to have you

3188
02:20:00,960 --> 02:20:02,960
ever come to a city council meeting? Do

3189
02:20:02,960 --> 02:20:05,680
you even know where city hall is?" And

3190
02:20:05,680 --> 02:20:09,359
they don't even know those kinds.

3191
02:20:09,359 --> 02:20:12,399
>> Uh yeah. So, and I think that's a great

3192
02:20:12,399 --> 02:20:16,720
So, so I think on the flip side, I look

3193
02:20:16,720 --> 02:20:20,319
at the fact that we have close to 800

3194
02:20:20,319 --> 02:20:23,439
people on our mailing list. I look at

3195
02:20:23,439 --> 02:20:25,920
the fact that when we post stuff now for

3196
02:20:25,920 --> 02:20:28,399
the ice cream social, we actually have

3197
02:20:28,399 --> 02:20:30,880
50 60 people showing up for that and

3198
02:20:30,880 --> 02:20:32,560
it's going to continue to build every

3199
02:20:32,560 --> 02:20:36,720
year. When we first started doing the city picnic, 100 people was like,

3200
02:20:36,720 --> 02:20:38,800
"Oh my gosh, I didn't know we had this

3201
02:20:38,800 --> 02:20:40,880
many people in the city." Now we're at

3202
02:20:40,880 --> 02:20:42,399
300.

3203
02:20:42,399 --> 02:20:44,319
And so it continues to get better and

3204
02:20:44,319 --> 02:20:47,439
better every day. I mean, you when you

3205
02:20:47,439 --> 02:20:50,479
look at the um

3206
02:20:50,479 --> 02:20:55,200
I don't want to say apathy, but when you look at the amount of people

3207
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:58,479
that do engage, it it's actually a

3208
02:20:58,479 --> 02:21:00,640
little impressive in my in my opinion

3209
02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:02,240
what we've been able to get people to

3210
02:21:02,240 --> 02:21:04,560
do. I'm not saying that that there isn't

3211
02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:06,479
more work that that that needs to be

3212
02:21:06,479 --> 02:21:09,439
done, but when people come and tell you

3213
02:21:09,439 --> 02:21:10,880
that because I mean I I would get

3214
02:21:10,880 --> 02:21:12,960
disheartened all the time about it. I

3215
02:21:12,960 --> 02:21:14,479
didn't know this was going on. I didn't

3216
02:21:14,479 --> 02:21:17,600
know this. I remember

3217
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:20,720
gosh, what was it? 2009 back in the day.

3218
02:21:20,720 --> 02:21:24,319
>> Back in the day. No, that

3219
02:21:24,319 --> 02:21:27,680
not only was a resolution passed giving

3220
02:21:27,680 --> 02:21:31,359
the city council members a salary,

3221
02:21:31,359 --> 02:21:33,760
but then it it actually passed for

3222
02:21:33,760 --> 02:21:35,359
second reading and then when it was

3223
02:21:35,359 --> 02:21:37,280
actually about ready to go into effect,

3224
02:21:37,280 --> 02:21:39,520
that's when somebody said, "Hey, what's

3225
02:21:39,520 --> 02:21:42,319
going on here?" And all of a sudden,

3226
02:21:42,319 --> 02:21:45,439
this place was filled with people.

3227
02:21:45,439 --> 02:21:49,680
or when the the the city was going to

3228
02:21:49,680 --> 02:21:52,160
discuss annexation of the uninorporated

3229
02:21:52,160 --> 02:21:55,040
pockets around man, they were overflowed

3230
02:21:55,040 --> 02:21:57,359
into the parking lot over here. So, when

3231
02:21:57,359 --> 02:21:59,200
there's important issues that people

3232
02:21:59,200 --> 02:22:00,560
need to deal with, and we've seen it

3233
02:22:00,560 --> 02:22:03,200
with things like housing,

3234
02:22:03,200 --> 02:22:05,760
um there's there's going to be certain

3235
02:22:05,760 --> 02:22:08,640
buttons that will push people to want to

3236
02:22:08,640 --> 02:22:11,840
participate more in in our government.

3237
02:22:11,840 --> 02:22:14,960
And um but I I wouldn't take it to heart

3238
02:22:14,960 --> 02:22:18,960
that the city is is is not doing enough

3239
02:22:18,960 --> 02:22:22,399
to communicate with people. So

3240
02:22:22,399 --> 02:22:25,840
>> two publications a year and email

3241
02:22:25,840 --> 02:22:27,680
blasts.

3242
02:22:27,680 --> 02:22:28,240
Uh

3243
02:22:28,240 --> 02:22:30,160
>> but I mean we're doing 30 40 email

3244
02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:31,920
blasts a year. We don't do that much as

3245
02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:33,840
a city. And and you know it's also

3246
02:22:33,840 --> 02:22:35,200
interesting on the flip side. People are

3247
02:22:35,200 --> 02:22:37,200
like I don't expect our city to do a

3248
02:22:37,200 --> 02:22:40,000
lot. This is supposed to be a low

3249
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:41,520
government city. This is what it was

3250
02:22:41,520 --> 02:22:43,280
founded on. And you'll hear people come

3251
02:22:43,280 --> 02:22:45,359
in and tell you, "Well, the world

3252
02:22:45,359 --> 02:22:46,880
doesn't want all of this."

3253
02:22:46,880 --> 02:22:48,960
>> And I hear I mean, look, we can we can

3254
02:22:48,960 --> 02:22:51,840
go back and forth, bro. I I I hear I

3255
02:22:51,840 --> 02:22:54,319
hear the opposite. I hear I don't know.

3256
02:22:54,319 --> 02:22:57,359
I wish I did know. What do you do? Where

3257
02:22:57,359 --> 02:23:00,240
>> they would subscribe to the email blast.

3258
02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:02,240
Again, I you know, I challenge you to

3259
02:23:02,240 --> 02:23:03,680
point out something that the city is

3260
02:23:03,680 --> 02:23:05,680
doing. I think it's really effective the

3261
02:23:05,680 --> 02:23:08,240
effectiveness of these things

3262
02:23:08,240 --> 02:23:11,600
>> and and and maybe we can take a look at

3263
02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:15,600
making our communication more effective.

3264
02:23:15,600 --> 02:23:17,760
That's that's what I'm that's what I'm

3265
02:23:17,760 --> 02:23:19,840
saying. There's there's a lot more that

3266
02:23:19,840 --> 02:23:22,240
we do that most people don't know and

3267
02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:24,319
I'm just looking for a vehicle to share

3268
02:23:24,319 --> 02:23:25,200
it. Right.

3269
02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:27,840
>> And I think it it has a positive impact

3270
02:23:27,840 --> 02:23:30,800
on on the resident's knowledge of what

3271
02:23:30,800 --> 02:23:34,000
we what we do. It could further uh could

3272
02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:35,840
further encourage their engagement in

3273
02:23:35,840 --> 02:23:37,200
some of the things we're trying to get

3274
02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:39,760
them to to get involved in. I think that

3275
02:23:39,760 --> 02:23:41,680
they could we could get more community

3276
02:23:41,680 --> 02:23:44,080
engagement if we communicated more

3277
02:23:44,080 --> 02:23:45,760
effectively with the in the community.

3278
02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:47,120
>> But, you know, it's interesting. I've

3279
02:23:47,120 --> 02:23:49,120
been involved with city government for

3280
02:23:49,120 --> 02:23:51,439
more than 15 years. And you were the

3281
02:23:51,439 --> 02:23:54,000
first person I heard of who said, "Gee,

3282
02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:56,000
I don't know what the city is doing."

3283
02:23:56,000 --> 02:24:00,000
you know, uh, as you know, I put my cell

3284
02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:02,479
phone number on my business card and on

3285
02:24:02,479 --> 02:24:04,399
the website, and I did it when I was

3286
02:24:04,399 --> 02:24:06,800
mayor 10 years ago, and [clears throat]

3287
02:24:06,800 --> 02:24:09,200
I've gotten calls, a lot of calls from

3288
02:24:09,200 --> 02:24:11,600
residents about a lot of things,

3289
02:24:11,600 --> 02:24:15,439
especially the the cost of monthly water

3290
02:24:15,439 --> 02:24:19,359
bills. But, uh, I never once had a

3291
02:24:19,359 --> 02:24:22,640
resident say, "Gee, I didn't know the

3292
02:24:22,640 --> 02:24:24,880
city was doing this." Because if they

3293
02:24:24,880 --> 02:24:27,359
subscribe to the emails, there's nothing

3294
02:24:27,359 --> 02:24:30,160
that the city or city is doing that

3295
02:24:30,160 --> 02:24:32,240
isn't covered in our we can always do it

3296
02:24:32,240 --> 02:24:35,040
better.

3297
02:24:35,040 --> 02:24:39,840
Well, I can't you can Yes. anything we

3298
02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:42,880
do, we can do better. But I'm just

3299
02:24:42,880 --> 02:24:46,240
responding where you were saying u I

3300
02:24:46,240 --> 02:24:47,439
didn't know what the city was.

3301
02:24:47,439 --> 02:24:50,479
>> That was me. That was I I'm I'm saying

3302
02:24:50,479 --> 02:24:53,760
my experience in moving from Loscatoos

3303
02:24:53,760 --> 02:24:55,520
to Monosino

3304
02:24:55,520 --> 02:24:58,399
in talking to people when I first got on

3305
02:24:58,399 --> 02:25:02,160
the council was consistently I what what

3306
02:25:02,160 --> 02:25:03,520
do you do? What do you do? I don't I

3307
02:25:03,520 --> 02:25:04,880
don't What does a council member do?

3308
02:25:04,880 --> 02:25:06,560
Like what what do you do? And when I

3309
02:25:06,560 --> 02:25:08,080
explained to them the things that I do,

3310
02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:09,280
they said, "Oh my god, I didn't know

3311
02:25:09,280 --> 02:25:11,439
about that." Any of those people like

3312
02:25:11,439 --> 02:25:13,120
you said when you first came here, you

3313
02:25:13,120 --> 02:25:15,120
got the stuff from Melissa. You

3314
02:25:15,120 --> 02:25:17,760
>> you you weren't getting the emails. No,

3315
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:19,359
you hadn't signed up.

3316
02:25:19,359 --> 02:25:21,439
>> I didn't know to sign up.

3317
02:25:21,439 --> 02:25:24,160
>> Well, of course, that's our That's why

3318
02:25:24,160 --> 02:25:26,880
we have a That's why we all have picnic.

3319
02:25:26,880 --> 02:25:28,399
I didn't know about anything because it

3320
02:25:28,399 --> 02:25:31,120
was a resident in Monino, you know, but

3321
02:25:31,120 --> 02:25:33,840
u Well, look, if if you're saying can we

3322
02:25:33,840 --> 02:25:36,880
do things better, but more efficiently.

3323
02:25:36,880 --> 02:25:40,560
>> Yeah. But, u you know, we we have four

3324
02:25:40,560 --> 02:25:44,479
full-time people and we so so let me

3325
02:25:44,479 --> 02:25:46,880
just you know, suggest this. Okay, we

3326
02:25:46,880 --> 02:25:49,840
have one person that handles the forget

3327
02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:52,080
it. What is it?

3328
02:25:52,080 --> 02:25:54,160
The newsletter.

3329
02:25:54,160 --> 02:26:01,429
I can never remember,

3330
02:26:01,439 --> 02:26:05,359
but I cannot I I cannot and probably

3331
02:26:05,359 --> 02:26:08,479
will not remember that. But that

3332
02:26:08,479 --> 02:26:12,479
periodical is done twice a year.

3333
02:26:12,479 --> 02:26:14,479
What if we take those resources to do

3334
02:26:14,479 --> 02:26:16,080
something twice a year and do something

3335
02:26:16,080 --> 02:26:18,880
more frequently and communicate more

3336
02:26:18,880 --> 02:26:22,319
frequently? Why do we have to have one

3337
02:26:22,319 --> 02:26:25,280
that one publication twice a year when

3338
02:26:25,280 --> 02:26:27,600
we can use those resources to have more

3339
02:26:27,600 --> 02:26:29,439
frequent publications throughout the

3340
02:26:29,439 --> 02:26:30,720
year?

3341
02:26:30,720 --> 02:26:33,840
>> What What do you mean? Instead of having

3342
02:26:33,840 --> 02:26:37,200
a twice a year publication, have a more

3343
02:26:37,200 --> 02:26:39,040
frequent use those resources to have a

3344
02:26:39,040 --> 02:26:41,439
more frequent

3345
02:26:41,439 --> 02:26:44,000
>> more frequent uh way to communicate with

3346
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:48,240
residents. more more frequent.

3347
02:26:48,240 --> 02:26:50,640
>> I think we were

3348
02:26:50,640 --> 02:26:52,880
>> um now

3349
02:26:52,880 --> 02:26:55,840
I have sat at this day

3350
02:26:55,840 --> 02:26:57,280
continuously [clears throat] more than

3351
02:26:57,280 --> 02:27:01,280
anyone on this council because I have

3352
02:27:01,280 --> 02:27:04,560
was elected in 2020

3353
02:27:04,560 --> 02:27:07,520
>> and I agree

3354
02:27:07,520 --> 02:27:10,880
with council member Torren. There are so

3355
02:27:10,880 --> 02:27:12,720
many people that don't know what's going

3356
02:27:12,720 --> 02:27:15,840
on and some of the organizational

3357
02:27:15,840 --> 02:27:18,319
knowledge within the city or call it as

3358
02:27:18,319 --> 02:27:22,319
you wish when people leave or whatever

3359
02:27:22,319 --> 02:27:25,120
the new people coming in are not do not

3360
02:27:25,120 --> 02:27:27,840
understand and some of them don't care.

3361
02:27:27,840 --> 02:27:29,600
I get that

3362
02:27:29,600 --> 02:27:31,920
>> about residents or uh commissioners and

3363
02:27:31,920 --> 02:27:35,359
council members. I I'm missing your

3364
02:27:35,359 --> 02:27:36,880
I'm just trying to understand when you

3365
02:27:36,880 --> 02:27:38,319
say new people coming in are you talking

3366
02:27:38,319 --> 02:27:40,880
about new residents or new people in

3367
02:27:40,880 --> 02:27:43,840
involved in government new people come

3368
02:27:43,840 --> 02:27:46,960
into the city of an new res.

3369
02:27:46,960 --> 02:27:48,160
>> Yeah.

3370
02:27:48,160 --> 02:27:50,479
>> And

3371
02:27:50,479 --> 02:27:54,240
you know for example at the picnic last

3372
02:27:54,240 --> 02:27:58,000
year I went up to Ken Torren and said

3373
02:27:58,000 --> 02:28:00,080
hey Ken would you be interested in being

3374
02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:03,280
on city council? You know, I've gone out

3375
02:28:03,280 --> 02:28:06,080
and solicited with different people to

3376
02:28:06,080 --> 02:28:09,840
become involved in our community. And I

3377
02:28:09,840 --> 02:28:12,720
don't want to go too deep into this, but

3378
02:28:12,720 --> 02:28:16,319
there was a person that came to council

3379
02:28:16,319 --> 02:28:20,240
and talked about safety on Highway N on

3380
02:28:20,240 --> 02:28:23,840
Winchester going into going up to Dave's

3381
02:28:23,840 --> 02:28:27,600
school. I never knew it, but I ended up

3382
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:29,359
at the end of a dinner the other night

3383
02:28:29,359 --> 02:28:33,200
that I spoke with her parents.

3384
02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:35,120
>> You know, like it's a small community,

3385
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:37,439
but it's it's still different

3386
02:28:37,439 --> 02:28:39,200
neighborhoods and we're not quite

3387
02:28:39,200 --> 02:28:40,880
connected there. And I think that's an

3388
02:28:40,880 --> 02:28:43,200
opportunity. And I think Council Member

3389
02:28:43,200 --> 02:28:44,800
Torren is [clears throat] saying, "Let's

3390
02:28:44,800 --> 02:28:46,880
try something different. Let's not do

3391
02:28:46,880 --> 02:28:52,240
the same old same old because it's not working." And if you say what's

3392
02:28:52,240 --> 02:28:54,080
our metric to getting more people

3393
02:28:54,080 --> 02:28:57,840
involved, you know,

3394
02:28:57,840 --> 02:29:00,960
we need to get more people involved. So

3395
02:29:00,960 --> 02:29:04,479
I I if you've got an alternative that

3396
02:29:04,479 --> 02:29:07,359
you'd like to pilot, for example, let's

3397
02:29:07,359 --> 02:29:09,368
try something different. You know, this

3398
02:29:09,368 --> 02:29:10,399
[clears throat] is just one I mean this

3399
02:29:10,399 --> 02:29:12,720
is my gov tools is just one. I'm I'm

3400
02:29:12,720 --> 02:29:14,399
sure there are others. It's just that

3401
02:29:14,399 --> 02:29:16,479
they they they

3402
02:29:16,479 --> 02:29:21,359
um I received this uh in in um in my uh

3403
02:29:21,359 --> 02:29:24,960
city of Monino email in the outlook. I I

3404
02:29:24,960 --> 02:29:26,479
didn't know where it came from, but it

3405
02:29:26,479 --> 02:29:30,319
looked interesting. And so I called I called the mayor. We had a

3406
02:29:30,319 --> 02:29:32,960
conversation and she she was experienc

3407
02:29:32,960 --> 02:29:34,399
and this is Santa Monica. She was

3408
02:29:34,399 --> 02:29:35,840
experiencing the same kind of thing

3409
02:29:35,840 --> 02:29:36,160
there.

3410
02:29:36,160 --> 02:29:38,880
>> What is the mayor as we're concerned

3411
02:29:38,880 --> 02:29:40,560
about money? Um

3412
02:29:40,560 --> 02:29:41,520
>> I don't know.

3413
02:29:41,520 --> 02:29:45,040
>> Okay. because we have limited resources

3414
02:29:45,040 --> 02:29:50,560
as I'm talking about and um uh

3415
02:29:50,560 --> 02:29:53,200
the thing that would be free and you

3416
02:29:53,200 --> 02:29:55,120
know why we're all taking 30 minute

3417
02:29:55,120 --> 02:29:59,520
things at table on Sunday is if we get

3418
02:29:59,520 --> 02:30:03,040
more and more residents to sign up uh

3419
02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:04,880
you know

3420
02:30:04,880 --> 02:30:06,720
everything the city quite the city is

3421
02:30:06,720 --> 02:30:09,359
doing is sent out to people so that

3422
02:30:09,359 --> 02:30:12,319
would be a starting place to we have 200

3423
02:30:12,319 --> 02:30:14,160
plus households

3424
02:30:14,160 --> 02:30:16,160
the goal should be to you know at

3425
02:30:16,160 --> 02:30:17,359
today's you know

3426
02:30:17,359 --> 02:30:19,680
>> get them all well you know even people

3427
02:30:19,680 --> 02:30:21,680
in their 80s are not on their computers

3428
02:30:21,680 --> 02:30:25,439
I'm told so uh the goal should be to try

3429
02:30:25,439 --> 02:30:28,640
to really get virtually all of them on

3430
02:30:28,640 --> 02:30:32,240
that and then as a starting point and

3431
02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:34,640
then beyond that

3432
02:30:34,640 --> 02:30:37,040
because if people will look at see

3433
02:30:37,040 --> 02:30:39,280
what's on the agenda

3434
02:30:39,280 --> 02:30:43,120
uh you know we We don't have it isn't

3435
02:30:43,120 --> 02:30:45,439
just people here. I mean, we always ask

3436
02:30:45,439 --> 02:30:47,680
the city clerk, are their hands raised?

3437
02:30:47,680 --> 02:30:49,920
People aren't calling in where they can

3438
02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:52,399
do it from their own home, but we, you

3439
02:30:52,399 --> 02:30:55,040
know, if people would read the agendas

3440
02:30:55,040 --> 02:30:56,960
and if they'd read the minutes where

3441
02:30:56,960 --> 02:30:58,479
afterwards

3442
02:30:58,479 --> 02:31:00,720
all council members talk about the

3443
02:31:00,720 --> 02:31:03,520
commissions that they are on,

3444
02:31:03,520 --> 02:31:05,280
uh,

3445
02:31:05,280 --> 02:31:07,200
I think that's a starting point and we

3446
02:31:07,200 --> 02:31:08,960
can do that without increasing our

3447
02:31:08,960 --> 02:31:10,399
budget. Well, they're not going to

3448
02:31:10,399 --> 02:31:11,840
that's not the way they should be

3449
02:31:11,840 --> 02:31:13,520
finding out about things of the city

3450
02:31:13,520 --> 02:31:15,280
coming to a meeting. Coming to a meeting

3451
02:31:15,280 --> 02:31:16,800
is important. You want to encourage them

3452
02:31:16,800 --> 02:31:19,680
to do that. Uh and they usually come if

3453
02:31:19,680 --> 02:31:21,520
there's an issue that they care about or

3454
02:31:21,520 --> 02:31:23,520
they're passionate about. But there are

3455
02:31:23,520 --> 02:31:26,080
there that's not that's not the way to

3456
02:31:26,080 --> 02:31:28,560
get to communicate with people. There's

3457
02:31:28,560 --> 02:31:31,200
much much more much

3458
02:31:31,200 --> 02:31:33,920
more of a variety of ways to do that. Um

3459
02:31:33,920 --> 02:31:37,760
I So look, we let let me sum up this

3460
02:31:37,760 --> 02:31:40,080
conversation. So what I'd like

3461
02:31:40,080 --> 02:31:41,439
>> you're going to sum it up, but I still

3462
02:31:41,439 --> 02:31:42,720
would like to make some comments about

3463
02:31:42,720 --> 02:31:44,080
the topic. So

3464
02:31:44,080 --> 02:31:45,120
>> you want me to do it before you sum it

3465
02:31:45,120 --> 02:31:45,280
up?

3466
02:31:45,280 --> 02:31:47,359
>> No, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry.

3467
02:31:47,359 --> 02:31:49,040
>> So just a couple of things. I think

3468
02:31:49,040 --> 02:31:50,800
sometimes the the message does get out

3469
02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:51,760
there. I think we do have a lot of

3470
02:31:51,760 --> 02:31:53,120
residents that are signed up for the

3471
02:31:53,120 --> 02:31:55,040
emails and the examples are the soccer

3472
02:31:55,040 --> 02:31:57,359
balls. People found those free soccer

3473
02:31:57,359 --> 02:31:59,520
balls. You know, people came tonight

3474
02:31:59,520 --> 02:32:00,960
about the eucalyptus trees because they

3475
02:32:00,960 --> 02:32:03,840
saw the email blast about that. I agree

3476
02:32:03,840 --> 02:32:05,920
with you. There's probably more and

3477
02:32:05,920 --> 02:32:07,920
better ways to communicate with the

3478
02:32:07,920 --> 02:32:10,240
community. Diana keeps hearing me talk

3479
02:32:10,240 --> 02:32:12,399
about we need a better Instagram

3480
02:32:12,399 --> 02:32:13,680
presence.

3481
02:32:13,680 --> 02:32:16,800
>> Um maybe Tik Tok. I don't really do Tik

3482
02:32:16,800 --> 02:32:19,280
Tok, but a more modernized approach

3483
02:32:19,280 --> 02:32:20,800
including the emails.

3484
02:32:20,800 --> 02:32:23,120
>> I don't know that I'm in favor of doing

3485
02:32:23,120 --> 02:32:25,680
like another kind of website because we

3486
02:32:25,680 --> 02:32:27,359
have a website and if people aren't

3487
02:32:27,359 --> 02:32:28,960
going to that website now, why would

3488
02:32:28,960 --> 02:32:32,080
they go to a new kind of website? But

3489
02:32:32,080 --> 02:32:33,760
again, in agreement, in agreement with

3490
02:32:33,760 --> 02:32:35,760
what you were saying earlier, I think

3491
02:32:35,760 --> 02:32:39,040
our website needs a little sprucing up%

3492
02:32:39,040 --> 02:32:42,160
>> or maybe in those email blasts or in the

3493
02:32:42,160 --> 02:32:44,160
peaceful mountain monitor, we can find

3494
02:32:44,160 --> 02:32:46,399
ways to kind of redirect residents to

3495
02:32:46,399 --> 02:32:49,760
our website for more information. Um, I

3496
02:32:49,760 --> 02:32:52,240
think it's on all of us on Sunday to

3497
02:32:52,240 --> 02:32:54,640
really get people involved in our

3498
02:32:54,640 --> 02:32:56,399
website, let them know we have social

3499
02:32:56,399 --> 02:32:58,399
media, get, you know, we need to

3500
02:32:58,399 --> 02:33:00,000
communicate with residents when we have

3501
02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:01,600
opportunities and the picnic is kind of

3502
02:33:01,600 --> 02:33:03,439
the biggest opportunity that we have.

3503
02:33:03,439 --> 02:33:06,319
So, I agree there's more we can do to

3504
02:33:06,319 --> 02:33:09,600
communicate with our residents and I'd

3505
02:33:09,600 --> 02:33:12,319
like to look at some of those things. I

3506
02:33:12,319 --> 02:33:16,319
don't agree that giving them more emails

3507
02:33:16,319 --> 02:33:18,880
or another website is the way to do it

3508
02:33:18,880 --> 02:33:20,319
because the feedback that I get from

3509
02:33:20,319 --> 02:33:21,439
people is they kind of want to be left

3510
02:33:21,439 --> 02:33:23,840
alone. When I say you should sign up for

3511
02:33:23,840 --> 02:33:26,720
emails, the response is often I don't

3512
02:33:26,720 --> 02:33:28,479
want any more emails. I don't need any

3513
02:33:28,479 --> 02:33:30,560
more emails and I have to assure them

3514
02:33:30,560 --> 02:33:33,040
it's not a lot and you get kind of a

3515
02:33:33,040 --> 02:33:34,560
headline and then you know if you want

3516
02:33:34,560 --> 02:33:36,640
to read more about it. So that's kind of

3517
02:33:36,640 --> 02:33:37,920
where I fall in office.

3518
02:33:37,920 --> 02:33:40,399
>> So I'm again thank you. I'm not

3519
02:33:40,399 --> 02:33:43,040
suggesting another I'm not suggesting

3520
02:33:43,040 --> 02:33:45,600
yet another thing. I'm suggesting taking

3521
02:33:45,600 --> 02:33:47,600
a look at all the ways in which we are

3522
02:33:47,600 --> 02:33:50,240
interacting with our community and maybe

3523
02:33:50,240 --> 02:33:52,240
consolidating some of those things into

3524
02:33:52,240 --> 02:33:56,720
more simple more simplified uh system

3525
02:33:56,720 --> 02:34:00,319
and and not building another website.

3526
02:34:00,319 --> 02:34:02,399
>> We only have one website and that that

3527
02:34:02,399 --> 02:34:04,720
in itself needs to be updated. I agree

3528
02:34:04,720 --> 02:34:06,560
with that. I'm just suggesting that

3529
02:34:06,560 --> 02:34:10,080
there's a a better way there is possibly

3530
02:34:10,080 --> 02:34:12,479
a better way to communicate with our

3531
02:34:12,479 --> 02:34:14,640
residents than the way we're doing it.

3532
02:34:14,640 --> 02:34:16,160
That's that's essentially what I'm

3533
02:34:16,160 --> 02:34:21,200
saying. And I so there's no action.

3534
02:34:21,200 --> 02:34:24,880
So, what I'd like to do is sit down with

3535
02:34:24,880 --> 02:34:28,800
staff, somebody, you know, anybody, and

3536
02:34:28,800 --> 02:34:30,880
talk and and get a further understanding

3537
02:34:30,880 --> 02:34:33,120
of exactly what we're doing, how we're

3538
02:34:33,120 --> 02:34:36,160
doing it, who's doing it, and maybe, you

3539
02:34:36,160 --> 02:34:38,319
know, come back to you with a a plan

3540
02:34:38,319 --> 02:34:41,359
that, you know, that maybe incorporates

3541
02:34:41,359 --> 02:34:42,560
some of the things we talked about.

3542
02:34:42,560 --> 02:34:43,840
>> I think that's, you know,

3543
02:34:43,840 --> 02:34:46,160
>> it's not agendaized, but you could have

3544
02:34:46,160 --> 02:34:47,359
an ad hoc if you want.

3545
02:34:47,359 --> 02:34:49,840
>> I I I don't know what the process. I

3546
02:34:49,840 --> 02:34:52,800
think you could um you could be a you

3547
02:34:52,800 --> 02:34:56,000
know as I was throwing stones. let me

3548
02:34:56,000 --> 02:35:01,359
now support of the of you because

3549
02:35:01,359 --> 02:35:04,080
conversations and

3550
02:35:04,080 --> 02:35:07,120
getting the get this spread by the way

3551
02:35:07,120 --> 02:35:09,760
you know if you talk to Chuck Page is

3552
02:35:09,760 --> 02:35:12,000
the same thing trying to get the word

3553
02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:16,080
out of it used to be when nightmare

3554
02:35:16,080 --> 02:35:18,960
owner news we had Judy Peterson who

3555
02:35:18,960 --> 02:35:21,439
would come to our council meetings work

3556
02:35:21,439 --> 02:35:24,160
uh no Cruz has never come to any of our

3557
02:35:24,160 --> 02:35:27,520
meetings and uh she's been replaced.

3558
02:35:27,520 --> 02:35:28,720
>> Oh, has she already?

3559
02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:29,439
>> Okay.

3560
02:35:29,439 --> 02:35:31,280
>> But the short answer is you're coming to

3561
02:35:31,280 --> 02:35:36,880
it with fresh eyes and you know

3562
02:35:36,880 --> 02:35:38,560
spite of all the rocks out here. I think

3563
02:35:38,560 --> 02:35:41,920
if you have some creative ways probably

3564
02:35:41,920 --> 02:35:45,920
getting more effectively people

3565
02:35:45,920 --> 02:35:48,399
involved, I would absolutely support it.

3566
02:35:48,399 --> 02:35:51,910
Okay.

3567
02:35:51,920 --> 02:35:56,960
Um, so again my my um

3568
02:35:56,960 --> 02:35:59,760
my my comments were I don't want you to

3569
02:35:59,760 --> 02:36:01,600
feel dishearten that people come to you

3570
02:36:01,600 --> 02:36:04,800
and say this um because

3571
02:36:04,800 --> 02:36:07,439
>> I'm not the only one. Let me just say

3572
02:36:07,439 --> 02:36:10,319
for for all of us because I mean I I I

3573
02:36:10,319 --> 02:36:12,880
hear this all the time and and I asked

3574
02:36:12,880 --> 02:36:17,520
them I said so what have you done

3575
02:36:17,520 --> 02:36:21,680
and it's it's amazing that I mean I I

3576
02:36:21,680 --> 02:36:23,200
still meet people that don't know we're

3577
02:36:23,200 --> 02:36:25,439
a city

3578
02:36:25,439 --> 02:36:27,200
just to let you know that's that's

3579
02:36:27,200 --> 02:36:28,720
>> not that live in the city I

3580
02:36:28,720 --> 02:36:31,760
>> Yes. Yes. People in the city. I I met

3581
02:36:31,760 --> 02:36:35,200
this one guy and I said, "Oh, so um you

3582
02:36:35,200 --> 02:36:37,280
live in the same city?" He goes, "Where

3583
02:36:37,280 --> 02:36:38,560
a city?"

3584
02:36:38,560 --> 02:36:40,319
>> As opposed to what? A town or something?

3585
02:36:40,319 --> 02:36:42,640
>> As as you know, like Willow Clark,

3586
02:36:42,640 --> 02:36:45,520
>> you know, like like like a neighbor or

3587
02:36:45,520 --> 02:36:46,800
something like that.

3588
02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:48,640
>> So, I mean, you're you're going to meet

3589
02:36:48,640 --> 02:36:52,479
all kinds of people. Um, and one thing

3590
02:36:52,479 --> 02:36:54,319
that I would now like to also throw out

3591
02:36:54,319 --> 02:36:56,960
is a long time ago we used to be on Next

3592
02:36:56,960 --> 02:36:59,439
Door and we probably still have an

3593
02:36:59,439 --> 02:37:00,640
account and I think it would be

3594
02:37:00,640 --> 02:37:03,760
worthwhile to possibly get a little bit

3595
02:37:03,760 --> 02:37:06,960
more um engagement with Next Door

3596
02:37:06,960 --> 02:37:09,040
because that is I think between our

3597
02:37:09,040 --> 02:37:10,880
mailing list and the people who are on

3598
02:37:10,880 --> 02:37:13,200
Next Door, I think you're going to have

3599
02:37:13,200 --> 02:37:16,399
a really a really good um amount of

3600
02:37:16,399 --> 02:37:18,800
coverage of of the folks that live in

3601
02:37:18,800 --> 02:37:20,319
the city.

3602
02:37:20,319 --> 02:37:21,040
That'll be great.

3603
02:37:21,040 --> 02:37:21,359
>> Yeah. And

3604
02:37:21,359 --> 02:37:23,120
>> I think you're bringing this topic up at

3605
02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:25,120
like the perfect time since this Sunday

3606
02:37:25,120 --> 02:37:26,800
we're going to be at that picnic and we

3607
02:37:26,800 --> 02:37:28,479
can actually ask people how can we

3608
02:37:28,479 --> 02:37:29,120
better communicate.

3609
02:37:29,120 --> 02:37:30,640
>> Yeah. Do you know do you know Yeah. You

3610
02:37:30,640 --> 02:37:32,640
do like an informal survey, you know,

3611
02:37:32,640 --> 02:37:33,840
with people. Yeah.

3612
02:37:33,840 --> 02:37:35,920
>> Yeah. I think it's a

3613
02:37:35,920 --> 02:37:37,680
>> great thing for us to be looking at.

3614
02:37:37,680 --> 02:37:40,399
>> Yeah. And I'll share this for you to

3615
02:37:40,399 --> 02:37:42,160
take a look at. I'll share my gov tools.

3616
02:37:42,160 --> 02:37:44,399
I think it's a it's a you know what I

3617
02:37:44,399 --> 02:37:47,920
like about this is it's a mayor

3618
02:37:47,920 --> 02:37:50,319
of a city

3619
02:37:50,319 --> 02:37:53,920
that that experienced this problem and

3620
02:37:53,920 --> 02:37:56,720
developed a solution to it.

3621
02:37:56,720 --> 02:37:58,399
So that's what that's what I would

3622
02:37:58,399 --> 02:38:00,880
>> I think it's $200 a month, isn't it?

3623
02:38:00,880 --> 02:38:02,960
>> I don't know. I I

3624
02:38:02,960 --> 02:38:04,560
>> maybe you could research if that's

3625
02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:06,399
something that you think you'd like to

3626
02:38:06,399 --> 02:38:09,120
try if you come back to council

3627
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:11,760
>> through the through the mayor. I would

3628
02:38:11,760 --> 02:38:16,240
say, you know, we could look at it and then you say, okay, if we do this,

3629
02:38:16,240 --> 02:38:19,520
then we readjust some funds and and and

3630
02:38:19,520 --> 02:38:22,560
maybe and obviously get some feedback

3631
02:38:22,560 --> 02:38:24,960
from people at the picnic.

3632
02:38:24,960 --> 02:38:25,439
>> Okay.

3633
02:38:25,439 --> 02:38:27,600
>> Anything that's is that is quote free

3634
02:38:27,600 --> 02:38:30,240
generally

3635
02:38:30,240 --> 02:38:33,439
>> that's true. Um [clears throat] yes,

3636
02:38:33,439 --> 02:38:37,520
please. So, one thing that I've I've um

3637
02:38:37,520 --> 02:38:40,960
tried to get a handle on in the past is

3638
02:38:40,960 --> 02:38:45,520
it would be nice maybe during a um city

3639
02:38:45,520 --> 02:38:47,439
manager report if we could get some web

3640
02:38:47,439 --> 02:38:49,600
statistics. How many visitors did we

3641
02:38:49,600 --> 02:38:52,560
get? What pages are they going to

3642
02:38:52,560 --> 02:38:55,439
>> um and and just just kind of some

3643
02:38:55,439 --> 02:38:57,840
general information on when people are

3644
02:38:57,840 --> 02:39:03,040
trying to find stuff about the city. Um,

3645
02:39:03,040 --> 02:39:04,319
how many people are actually trying to

3646
02:39:04,319 --> 02:39:04,800
do that?

3647
02:39:04,800 --> 02:39:08,000
>> Who does our social media posts?

3648
02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:10,000
>> Um, our

3649
02:39:10,000 --> 02:39:12,479
management analyst, Michelle Boom.

3650
02:39:12,479 --> 02:39:15,280
>> So, just I'm just thinking I was looking

3651
02:39:15,280 --> 02:39:16,160
at you and thinking

3652
02:39:16,160 --> 02:39:18,319
>> I do some too.

3653
02:39:18,319 --> 02:39:19,600
>> I figured you know what?

3654
02:39:19,600 --> 02:39:23,200
>> And I was thinking, you know, could we

3655
02:39:23,200 --> 02:39:25,040
have somebody maybe from our youth

3656
02:39:25,040 --> 02:39:27,600
commission help us do that? I mean kids

3657
02:39:27,600 --> 02:39:30,560
know social media much better than

3658
02:39:30,560 --> 02:39:32,240
adults do.

3659
02:39:32,240 --> 02:39:34,880
>> So did did you have you tried that

3660
02:39:34,880 --> 02:39:35,760
before?

3661
02:39:35,760 --> 02:39:38,800
>> No. Um so right now we do get emails. We

3662
02:39:38,800 --> 02:39:41,200
have a contact particularly with you

3663
02:39:41,200 --> 02:39:43,200
know each of the uh boards that you guys

3664
02:39:43,200 --> 02:39:45,600
are part of. Um some of them use us more

3665
02:39:45,600 --> 02:39:46,960
than others. They will forward

3666
02:39:46,960 --> 02:39:48,800
information that they are posting on

3667
02:39:48,800 --> 02:39:50,880
their website so that we can convey that

3668
02:39:50,880 --> 02:39:52,560
and normally that goes onto our website

3669
02:39:52,560 --> 02:39:54,720
as well as you know what we share

3670
02:39:54,720 --> 02:39:57,439
through eblast. So, um, typically,

3671
02:39:57,439 --> 02:39:59,680
again, we're the main point of contact.

3672
02:39:59,680 --> 02:40:01,840
And so, I I see those emails that come

3673
02:40:01,840 --> 02:40:04,160
in to Michelle. So, if she's not in the

3674
02:40:04,160 --> 02:40:06,319
office, I make sure to I'm the second

3675
02:40:06,319 --> 02:40:08,640
person to post um anything or if I have

3676
02:40:08,640 --> 02:40:10,479
anything, you know, that I need to get

3677
02:40:10,479 --> 02:40:12,560
out rather than just giving it to her.

3678
02:40:12,560 --> 02:40:14,479
We wear multiple hats. So, I just check

3679
02:40:14,479 --> 02:40:16,080
in with Diana and usually post it

3680
02:40:16,080 --> 02:40:16,560
myself.

3681
02:40:16,560 --> 02:40:18,080
>> But I would go back to what you're

3682
02:40:18,080 --> 02:40:20,640
saying with the youth commission. I

3683
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:25,280
think besides the fact that any one of

3684
02:40:25,280 --> 02:40:28,080
them is more technology literate than

3685
02:40:28,080 --> 02:40:31,520
all of everybody in this room combined,

3686
02:40:31,520 --> 02:40:34,319
it would be interesting

3687
02:40:34,319 --> 02:40:36,960
of what they

3688
02:40:36,960 --> 02:40:38,479
think

3689
02:40:38,479 --> 02:40:41,840
people should know about

3690
02:40:41,840 --> 02:40:44,240
from and how and how to do it. How to do

3691
02:40:44,240 --> 02:40:48,000
it. And so I think you and Burton uh I

3692
02:40:48,000 --> 02:40:50,319
think they I think that that would be

3693
02:40:50,319 --> 02:40:53,200
exciting and also are helping these

3694
02:40:53,200 --> 02:40:55,120
young people put something else on their

3695
02:40:55,120 --> 02:40:57,120
college resume.

3696
02:40:57,120 --> 02:40:59,920
But seriously, I think that they are

3697
02:40:59,920 --> 02:41:03,439
aware and they may have more awareness

3698
02:41:03,439 --> 02:41:06,240
and certainly I would of what is

3699
02:41:06,240 --> 02:41:08,560
happening than residents would want to

3700
02:41:08,560 --> 02:41:12,240
know about. And also if then we have

3701
02:41:12,240 --> 02:41:14,880
more school kids, middle and high school

3702
02:41:14,880 --> 02:41:18,240
kids checking out things, the kids will

3703
02:41:18,240 --> 02:41:21,840
speak to their parents about

3704
02:41:21,840 --> 02:41:24,319
u what's going on. So I I think that

3705
02:41:24,319 --> 02:41:25,840
that's

3706
02:41:25,840 --> 02:41:28,479
um I would encourage the two of you who

3707
02:41:28,479 --> 02:41:30,880
are sort of our youth commission to

3708
02:41:30,880 --> 02:41:32,479
throw that out there. I think the kids

3709
02:41:32,479 --> 02:41:36,319
would be very interested in doing this.

3710
02:41:36,319 --> 02:41:38,000
>> I I I will say we have broken the

3711
02:41:38,000 --> 02:41:39,680
subject with them in the past. we didn't

3712
02:41:39,680 --> 02:41:42,479
get a lot of traction on it, but I will

3713
02:41:42,479 --> 02:41:45,439
I I do keep pushing. Um, and can I make

3714
02:41:45,439 --> 02:41:51,359
one other suggestion? So, so something I brought up a while ago um and and the

3715
02:41:51,359 --> 02:41:53,680
town does this

3716
02:41:53,680 --> 02:41:55,439
is that they do their committee

3717
02:41:55,439 --> 02:41:56,960
commission reports at the beginning of

3718
02:41:56,960 --> 02:42:00,240
the meeting and um that way they've got

3719
02:42:00,240 --> 02:42:02,880
a captive audience and that way by the

3720
02:42:02,880 --> 02:42:05,040
time the end of the meeting concurs, you

3721
02:42:05,040 --> 02:42:08,640
know, our audience is usually gone. So

3722
02:42:08,640 --> 02:42:10,319
just another thing to think about as

3723
02:42:10,319 --> 02:42:12,000
you're mentioning you want people to

3724
02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:15,120
know what we're doing. So any week we

3725
02:42:15,120 --> 02:42:17,520
go, you know, I always say does anybody

3726
02:42:17,520 --> 02:42:19,760
want to change

3727
02:42:19,760 --> 02:42:21,520
and

3728
02:42:21,520 --> 02:42:24,240
speaking and wearing my mayor's hat? If

3729
02:42:24,240 --> 02:42:26,560
Saturday the next meeting people want to

3730
02:42:26,560 --> 02:42:28,319
do commission reports and comments, it's

3731
02:42:28,319 --> 02:42:29,680
a meeting.

3732
02:42:29,680 --> 02:42:31,920
>> I I would have no objection to that. And

3733
02:42:31,920 --> 02:42:34,479
maybe in your mayor's remarks at the

3734
02:42:34,479 --> 02:42:36,080
picnic, which I'm assuming you're going

3735
02:42:36,080 --> 02:42:36,800
to

3736
02:42:36,800 --> 02:42:40,479
>> well the actually well we I believe my

3737
02:42:40,479 --> 02:42:45,600
only role is to uh give to Javeed is a

3738
02:42:45,600 --> 02:42:48,000
plan for being citizen of the year. I

3739
02:42:48,000 --> 02:42:53,840
wasn't and I think u Margareta is also

3740
02:42:53,840 --> 02:42:56,000
Koga is also going to give him a thing.

3741
02:42:56,000 --> 02:42:58,800
>> I wasn't uh [clears throat] frankly

3742
02:42:58,800 --> 02:43:00,560
people are there to have a good time. I

3743
02:43:00,560 --> 02:43:03,520
don't was really coming. They said I

3744
02:43:03,520 --> 02:43:05,680
wasn't other than just saying some nice

3745
02:43:05,680 --> 02:43:06,319
things about

3746
02:43:06,319 --> 02:43:08,080
>> Well, we can talk to them at our booth.

3747
02:43:08,080 --> 02:43:09,520
>> Yeah, at the booth. Yeah, I wasn't

3748
02:43:09,520 --> 02:43:15,030
invited to give any remarks, guys.

3749
02:43:15,040 --> 02:43:17,280
» Just a

3750
02:43:17,280 --> 02:43:19,200
piece of information. So, another item

3751
02:43:19,200 --> 02:43:20,720
on our agenda tonight is about the

3752
02:43:20,720 --> 02:43:23,359
guidelines. And so, you could actually

3753
02:43:23,359 --> 02:43:26,560
move the committee reports in our order.

3754
02:43:26,560 --> 02:43:28,479
The order of business is in those

3755
02:43:28,479 --> 02:43:29,920
guidelines. So if you wanted to make

3756
02:43:29,920 --> 02:43:32,319
that change tonight, you could.

3757
02:43:32,319 --> 02:43:33,840
>> Well, I would think that

3758
02:43:33,840 --> 02:43:36,000
>> not to put you on the spot, but it is an

3759
02:43:36,000 --> 02:43:36,640
option.

3760
02:43:36,640 --> 02:43:41,520
>> It may be that time when we get to that council or may suggest a

3761
02:43:41,520 --> 02:43:43,359
modification to do that and I would

3762
02:43:43,359 --> 02:43:45,840
support that.

3763
02:43:45,840 --> 02:43:49,760
U council member I you look on your face

3764
02:43:49,760 --> 02:43:51,439
and you wanted to add something to this

3765
02:43:51,439 --> 02:43:52,000
conversation.

3766
02:43:52,000 --> 02:43:53,760
>> No, I think the conversation is going

3767
02:43:53,760 --> 02:43:56,160
well. Um,

3768
02:43:56,160 --> 02:43:58,080
I

3769
02:43:58,080 --> 02:44:01,200
commend Council Member Torren for being

3770
02:44:01,200 --> 02:44:05,279
quote completely new to council and

3771
02:44:05,279 --> 02:44:07,760
saying, "Hey, here are some observations

3772
02:44:07,760 --> 02:44:12,880
and, you know, we may be um testing on

3773
02:44:12,880 --> 02:44:15,200
that, but but I I think you're making

3774
02:44:15,200 --> 02:44:19,680
your point, and I think that um uh

3775
02:44:19,680 --> 02:44:21,760
council member Craig to suggest that we

3776
02:44:21,760 --> 02:44:24,160
put that at the the council member

3777
02:44:24,160 --> 02:44:25,439
comments at the beginning of the

3778
02:44:25,439 --> 02:44:27,439
meeting. I think that's a great thing

3779
02:44:27,439 --> 02:44:29,359
that we should consider at the

3780
02:44:29,359 --> 02:44:31,279
appropriate point in the agenda tonight.

3781
02:44:31,279 --> 02:44:34,319
>> Well, I I I think that we will I guess

3782
02:44:34,319 --> 02:44:36,000
other comment on that particular thing.

3783
02:44:36,000 --> 02:44:38,479
I really like the idea of changing the

3784
02:44:38,479 --> 02:44:40,240
orders of the day every now and again

3785
02:44:40,240 --> 02:44:43,040
that we may have people in chambers or

3786
02:44:43,040 --> 02:44:45,520
if we know people are watching because

3787
02:44:45,520 --> 02:44:46,720
uh well maybe that maybe that's the

3788
02:44:46,720 --> 02:44:49,680
wrong time to do it. My concern is we

3789
02:44:49,680 --> 02:44:51,840
try to get through stuff more quickly

3790
02:44:51,840 --> 02:44:53,920
when people are waiting on us. At the

3791
02:44:53,920 --> 02:44:55,279
end of the meeting when we make all of

3792
02:44:55,279 --> 02:44:56,399
our comments and talk about our

3793
02:44:56,399 --> 02:44:57,760
commissions and things that's sort of

3794
02:44:57,760 --> 02:45:01,120
the end people have already left. So

3795
02:45:01,120 --> 02:45:02,160
we're trying just

3796
02:45:02,160 --> 02:45:04,560
>> we can do it

3797
02:45:04,560 --> 02:45:08,080
Lisa numbers I agree that if people are

3798
02:45:08,080 --> 02:45:10,160
here on one agenda I think it's

3799
02:45:10,160 --> 02:45:13,439
courageous to take that first but after

3800
02:45:13,439 --> 02:45:18,800
we do that uh and chamber's empty then

3801
02:45:18,800 --> 02:45:20,720
we might want to do that for people

3802
02:45:20,720 --> 02:45:24,880
listening in figuring that

3803
02:45:24,880 --> 02:45:26,640
if they didn't submit comments or

3804
02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:29,760
questions about particular agenda items

3805
02:45:29,760 --> 02:45:31,120
And this goes to the point the council

3806
02:45:31,120 --> 02:45:33,359
member Torren said in terms of all the

3807
02:45:33,359 --> 02:45:35,200
other things we are doing in the

3808
02:45:35,200 --> 02:45:38,080
community. Um maybe that's a way to

3809
02:45:38,080 --> 02:45:39,840
generate some interest by moving it

3810
02:45:39,840 --> 02:45:44,160
forward to uh see if uh more residents

3811
02:45:44,160 --> 02:45:48,000
pick up on that and uh uh you know one

3812
02:45:48,000 --> 02:45:52,240
because u you know all of us spend as

3813
02:45:52,240 --> 02:45:56,800
much time if not more on things we do in

3814
02:45:56,800 --> 02:45:58,399
the community than actually you know

3815
02:45:58,399 --> 02:46:00,640
attending the two council meetings each

3816
02:46:00,640 --> 02:46:04,560
month. So I'd like to segue to your next

3817
02:46:04,560 --> 02:46:06,319
thing because I agree it's the other

3818
02:46:06,319 --> 02:46:09,920
side of the coin pen which is the other

3819
02:46:09,920 --> 02:46:13,040
side of the communication point is the

3820
02:46:13,040 --> 02:46:16,399
volunteerism. So, uh, madam, city

3821
02:46:16,399 --> 02:46:19,040
manager, you want to give a brief.

3822
02:46:19,040 --> 02:46:21,359
Oh, please. No, no, no, no.

3823
02:46:21,359 --> 02:46:25,279
>> Oh, I don't see any, uh, hands raised in

3824
02:46:25,279 --> 02:46:27,680
that. Uh,

3825
02:46:27,680 --> 02:46:32,000
yes. He reminds me and then Brian teases

3826
02:46:32,000 --> 02:46:34,880
me and I accept. I, uh, I deserve the

3827
02:46:34,880 --> 02:46:38,080
teasing, Brian. So, you know, any time

3828
02:46:38,080 --> 02:46:39,840
we're in public, he brings it up and I

3829
02:46:39,840 --> 02:46:42,560
say, "Guilty is charged." So, go ahead.

3830
02:46:42,560 --> 02:46:44,560
Uh there I don't see any hands raised in

3831
02:46:44,560 --> 02:46:47,359
chambers. Uh madam city clerk any hands

3832
02:46:47,359 --> 02:46:48,479
raised online?

3833
02:46:48,479 --> 02:46:49,279
>> No raised.

3834
02:46:49,279 --> 02:46:51,920
>> Okay. Then I would ask the city manager

3835
02:46:51,920 --> 02:46:54,640
to give the presentation on item seven

3836
02:46:54,640 --> 02:46:57,680
of fun. Then ask again council member to

3837
02:46:57,680 --> 02:46:59,760
as it is to supplement what the city

3838
02:46:59,760 --> 02:47:01,600
manager is saying.

3839
02:47:01,600 --> 02:47:04,000
>> Thank you. Um, this item was also placed

3840
02:47:04,000 --> 02:47:05,600
on the agenda tonight at the request of

3841
02:47:05,600 --> 02:47:07,840
council member Warren to discuss how the

3842
02:47:07,840 --> 02:47:09,760
city uses volunteers in the community

3843
02:47:09,760 --> 02:47:11,600
and how the city engages the community

3844
02:47:11,600 --> 02:47:13,920
for various commissions and committees.

3845
02:47:13,920 --> 02:47:15,439
Um, currently the city has three

3846
02:47:15,439 --> 02:47:17,200
commissions, site and architectural

3847
02:47:17,200 --> 02:47:18,560
commission, youth commission, and the

3848
02:47:18,560 --> 02:47:20,240
better students commission.

3849
02:47:20,240 --> 02:47:21,680
Additionally, the city council has

3850
02:47:21,680 --> 02:47:23,359
appointed residents to represent the

3851
02:47:23,359 --> 02:47:25,840
city on the BTA bicycle and pedestrian

3852
02:47:25,840 --> 02:47:28,479
advisory committee and as an alternate

3853
02:47:28,479 --> 02:47:30,240
on the Silicon Valley clean energy

3854
02:47:30,240 --> 02:47:33,359
board. Um, the city council has also

3855
02:47:33,359 --> 02:47:35,040
established special committees for

3856
02:47:35,040 --> 02:47:38,399
specific purposes and limited durations

3857
02:47:38,399 --> 02:47:41,200
um, in the past as needed. I think the

3858
02:47:41,200 --> 02:47:42,960
most recent example of that was the

3859
02:47:42,960 --> 02:47:45,920
community center committee. Um, so this

3860
02:47:45,920 --> 02:47:48,080
is just some background information on

3861
02:47:48,080 --> 02:47:50,880
what the city has been doing to date. It

3862
02:47:50,880 --> 02:47:52,960
completes um, the information I was

3863
02:47:52,960 --> 02:47:55,120
going to provide and see if council

3864
02:47:55,120 --> 02:47:57,920
member stats. Well, first um want to

3865
02:47:57,920 --> 02:48:00,880
thank our city attorney for

3866
02:48:00,880 --> 02:48:02,560
uh for providing this information. So,

3867
02:48:02,560 --> 02:48:06,240
did you want to add anything about this?

3868
02:48:06,240 --> 02:48:08,960
>> Any clarifications or any

3869
02:48:08,960 --> 02:48:10,240
>> I wasn't planning on it.

3870
02:48:10,240 --> 02:48:12,399
>> Okay.

3871
02:48:12,399 --> 02:48:15,840
So, so she pro so city attorney provided

3872
02:48:15,840 --> 02:48:21,120
some structure to this. Um again, I I

3873
02:48:21,120 --> 02:48:22,399
think we've already kind of talked about

3874
02:48:22,399 --> 02:48:24,160
it. It kind of goes hand in hand. we

3875
02:48:24,160 --> 02:48:25,359
communicate more effectively, we're

3876
02:48:25,359 --> 02:48:26,640
going to get more people engaged.

3877
02:48:26,640 --> 02:48:28,000
>> The other side of the story.

3878
02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:30,240
>> So, I think we I think we kind of talked

3879
02:48:30,240 --> 02:48:32,720
about it. Um, but I, you know, I I think

3880
02:48:32,720 --> 02:48:35,600
we should be open to taking a look at

3881
02:48:35,600 --> 02:48:38,880
how we can engage people in things more

3882
02:48:38,880 --> 02:48:40,319
people in things that we're already

3883
02:48:40,319 --> 02:48:44,080
doing. Uh, I I

3884
02:48:44,080 --> 02:48:47,071
gave a few examples. Um, and

3885
02:48:47,071 --> 02:48:47,600
[clears throat]

3886
02:48:47,600 --> 02:48:50,479
uh, I think I think if we do a good job

3887
02:48:50,479 --> 02:48:52,399
communicating and sharing what we do,

3888
02:48:52,399 --> 02:48:54,960
perhaps we could get more engagement in

3889
02:48:54,960 --> 02:48:56,640
things that we need people to get more

3890
02:48:56,640 --> 02:48:57,439
engaged in.

3891
02:48:57,439 --> 02:49:01,040
>> Yeah. Going back to the youth commission

3892
02:49:01,040 --> 02:49:04,000
uh, be able

3893
02:49:04,000 --> 02:49:06,800
helping with communication. It seems to

3894
02:49:06,800 --> 02:49:09,760
me as those kids are so interested that

3895
02:49:09,760 --> 02:49:11,962
maybe at meetings uh if it's

3896
02:49:11,962 --> 02:49:12,960
[clears throat] appropriate saying you

3897
02:49:12,960 --> 02:49:15,279
know this is something maybe your mom or

3898
02:49:15,279 --> 02:49:20,160
dad might be interested in. Uh

3899
02:49:20,160 --> 02:49:22,640
because I'm surely at home, mom or dad

3900
02:49:22,640 --> 02:49:24,240
says, "Well, what do you do today at

3901
02:49:24,240 --> 02:49:25,680
youth commission?" [clears throat] And

3902
02:49:25,680 --> 02:49:27,439
I'd say, "Yeah, we're doing this." And

3903
02:49:27,439 --> 02:49:30,080
they were saying they they could use

3904
02:49:30,080 --> 02:49:31,840
some volunteers to do whatever it is

3905
02:49:31,840 --> 02:49:36,160
XYZ. It just it's a zerorost way to

3906
02:49:36,160 --> 02:49:39,760
involve more people. And so so this so

3907
02:49:39,760 --> 02:49:43,600
do at the picnic and I recall last year,

3908
02:49:43,600 --> 02:49:45,920
are there ways for people to say if

3909
02:49:45,920 --> 02:49:48,160
somebody says, "I want to help

3910
02:49:48,160 --> 02:49:51,439
I want to do something. Is there do we

3911
02:49:51,439 --> 02:49:55,040
have a list of things that they can do?

3912
02:49:55,040 --> 02:49:59,920
Sign up or do something, take action.

3913
02:49:59,920 --> 02:50:04,720
>> So, I think we've got it down to um what

3914
02:50:04,720 --> 02:50:08,399
we as staff take care of. Um but I

3915
02:50:08,399 --> 02:50:11,439
haven't had really anybody step in to

3916
02:50:11,439 --> 02:50:14,319
ask that question. So we usually just

3917
02:50:14,319 --> 02:50:16,560
kind of coordinate that you know between

3918
02:50:16,560 --> 02:50:19,439
the city manager and I discuss the

3919
02:50:19,439 --> 02:50:22,240
picnic itself what it entails and then

3920
02:50:22,240 --> 02:50:25,760
we offer that to the staff to attend um

3921
02:50:25,760 --> 02:50:28,080
just to enjoy it or to participate in

3922
02:50:28,080 --> 02:50:29,760
the sense of working and then we

3923
02:50:29,760 --> 02:50:32,319
distribute the work amongst us

3924
02:50:32,319 --> 02:50:34,080
>> but that's for the picnic only it sounds

3925
02:50:34,080 --> 02:50:35,680
like you're talking about I think Ken's

3926
02:50:35,680 --> 02:50:37,439
question is more along the lines of

3927
02:50:37,439 --> 02:50:39,120
people walk up and say I want to be

3928
02:50:39,120 --> 02:50:41,359
involved in the city for something I'll

3929
02:50:41,359 --> 02:50:44,640
pick up garbage I talked to uh people

3930
02:50:44,640 --> 02:50:47,520
that um I was here when the when you're

3931
02:50:47,520 --> 02:50:50,479
doing the soccer balls and I I I talked

3932
02:50:50,479 --> 02:50:52,800
to many many of them and and this woman

3933
02:50:52,800 --> 02:50:55,120
was was there and she said you know I

3934
02:50:55,120 --> 02:50:56,800
never knew I never came here I never I

3935
02:50:56,800 --> 02:50:58,479
never knew you know I saw the soccer

3936
02:50:58,479 --> 02:51:00,080
balls I came over it was the free soccer

3937
02:51:00,080 --> 02:51:02,319
balls it was wonderful and she said what

3938
02:51:02,319 --> 02:51:04,720
you know what can I do you know you know

3939
02:51:04,720 --> 02:51:06,080
I've been thinking maybe I should get

3940
02:51:06,080 --> 02:51:07,680
involved with city government you know

3941
02:51:07,680 --> 02:51:12,240
and so I you know we talked talked it through with her and And um

3942
02:51:12,240 --> 02:51:15,279
and she said she said I I explained a

3943
02:51:15,279 --> 02:51:16,720
little bit about site and architecture.

3944
02:51:16,720 --> 02:51:18,399
She seems to be more interested in that

3945
02:51:18,399 --> 02:51:23,680
point is you know I I I live in a world where

3946
02:51:23,680 --> 02:51:24,960
people are always saying well what can I

3947
02:51:24,960 --> 02:51:27,359
do? How can I help? You know, and so

3948
02:51:27,359 --> 02:51:30,720
that's, you know, if if you create

3949
02:51:30,720 --> 02:51:33,600
opportunities for people to help and and

3950
02:51:33,600 --> 02:51:35,279
they can take action on something, if

3951
02:51:35,279 --> 02:51:37,200
there's a committee to, you know, to

3952
02:51:37,200 --> 02:51:39,439
volunteer or something clean street,

3953
02:51:39,439 --> 02:51:41,439
whatever it is,

3954
02:51:41,439 --> 02:51:44,479
especially for a for a, you know, a

3955
02:51:44,479 --> 02:51:46,319
picnic, it's going to attract what, 300

3956
02:51:46,319 --> 02:51:48,560
people or whatever. It's going to some

3957
02:51:48,560 --> 02:51:49,359
something like that.

3958
02:51:49,359 --> 02:51:50,160
>> Over

3959
02:51:50,160 --> 02:51:52,560
>> 300 people. I mean, I think there should

3960
02:51:52,560 --> 02:51:54,000
be options for people to get engaged.

3961
02:51:54,000 --> 02:51:56,000
>> For those that have expressed that sort

3962
02:51:56,000 --> 02:51:58,000
of interest, I definitely always let

3963
02:51:58,000 --> 02:52:00,080
them know that we do have commissions,

3964
02:52:00,080 --> 02:52:02,880
you know, available. Um, but of course,

3965
02:52:02,880 --> 02:52:04,640
sometimes they do ask during a time

3966
02:52:04,640 --> 02:52:06,080
where, you know, the seats aren't

3967
02:52:06,080 --> 02:52:07,760
available and I always let them know

3968
02:52:07,760 --> 02:52:09,600
that towards the end of the year to be

3969
02:52:09,600 --> 02:52:12,000
on the lookout. Sometimes that's my

3970
02:52:12,000 --> 02:52:13,680
initiative to just, well, let me have

3971
02:52:13,680 --> 02:52:15,760
your email if you don't mind. can you

3972
02:52:15,760 --> 02:52:17,520
know insert into our eblast if you don't

3973
02:52:17,520 --> 02:52:19,279
receive those east already because

3974
02:52:19,279 --> 02:52:21,520
that's how we notify folks to our

3975
02:52:21,520 --> 02:52:25,120
website and um you know elast and for

3976
02:52:25,120 --> 02:52:27,120
the most part a lot of them are telling

3977
02:52:27,120 --> 02:52:29,600
you um even from right now uh people

3978
02:52:29,600 --> 02:52:31,680
that have signed up I think more than

3979
02:52:31,680 --> 02:52:34,240
90% of the people that are RSVP were

3980
02:52:34,240 --> 02:52:36,319
folks that were already in the eblast

3981
02:52:36,319 --> 02:52:39,279
system because everybody has a list of

3982
02:52:39,279 --> 02:52:42,319
their emails and I kind of cross checked

3983
02:52:42,319 --> 02:52:44,479
>> more than 90% of those individuals

3984
02:52:44,479 --> 02:52:46,160
actually.

3985
02:52:46,160 --> 02:52:49,520
their their part. But going back to a

3986
02:52:49,520 --> 02:52:53,600
new race this morning and coffee, uh we

3987
02:52:53,600 --> 02:52:57,520
decided to jump and have a table at the

3988
02:52:57,520 --> 02:53:00,000
picnic because when we didn't have one

3989
02:53:00,000 --> 02:53:02,399
for the soccer balls and that was an

3990
02:53:02,399 --> 02:53:05,680
opportunity there was and and it was be

3991
02:53:05,680 --> 02:53:07,520
because of that when we talked about it

3992
02:53:07,520 --> 02:53:09,439
that's when we said let's have a table

3993
02:53:09,439 --> 02:53:11,920
at the picnic and everybody take a 30

3994
02:53:11,920 --> 02:53:14,960
minute thing and number one thing is if

3995
02:53:14,960 --> 02:53:17,520
they if they're not on the email list

3996
02:53:17,520 --> 02:53:19,359
have a thing where they follow our

3997
02:53:19,359 --> 02:53:21,040
email. You don't let them leave the

3998
02:53:21,040 --> 02:53:24,240
table, but they don't sign up because

3999
02:53:24,240 --> 02:53:27,040
not that we're based on discussion doing

4000
02:53:27,040 --> 02:53:30,000
other things, but that's the starting

4001
02:53:30,000 --> 02:53:34,880
that's the study on the list. So you get

4002
02:53:34,880 --> 02:53:37,600
the notices and more and more when there

4003
02:53:37,600 --> 02:53:39,920
things of special interest, we do send a

4004
02:53:39,920 --> 02:53:43,439
special email and

4005
02:53:43,439 --> 02:53:45,920
then maybe people from time to time may

4006
02:53:45,920 --> 02:53:49,520
just go up to the website and

4007
02:53:49,520 --> 02:53:52,080
yes, it could be refreshed where we try

4008
02:53:52,080 --> 02:53:54,319
to make sure that whatever is going on

4009
02:53:54,319 --> 02:53:56,160
that

4010
02:53:56,160 --> 02:53:57,600
you know anything that's important

4011
02:53:57,600 --> 02:54:00,640
should be on our website and then we

4012
02:54:00,640 --> 02:54:03,600
could use the website for other things

4013
02:54:03,600 --> 02:54:07,680
whether it's the open space thing or

4014
02:54:07,680 --> 02:54:14,960
uh you know other things that we're doing to do more.

4015
02:54:14,960 --> 02:54:17,279
>> Uh yes.

4016
02:54:17,279 --> 02:54:22,800
Um I think we're we're limiting this to

4017
02:54:22,800 --> 02:54:26,560
commissions and committees and Brown Act

4018
02:54:26,560 --> 02:54:29,920
uh things that turns off a lot of people

4019
02:54:29,920 --> 02:54:33,520
and that's I think a barrier and I've

4020
02:54:33,520 --> 02:54:37,279
read the battle for peaceful mountain uh

4021
02:54:37,279 --> 02:54:40,640
which is that thick typewritten book

4022
02:54:40,640 --> 02:54:44,319
that was put together years ago. Um and

4023
02:54:44,319 --> 02:54:46,800
there were a lot of volunteers

4024
02:54:46,800 --> 02:54:48,960
back in the formation of the city of

4025
02:54:48,960 --> 02:54:51,520
Monty Sereno

4026
02:54:51,520 --> 02:54:53,040
19

4027
02:54:53,040 --> 02:54:54,399
56 [snorts]

4028
02:54:54,399 --> 02:54:58,319
through six the early mid60s

4029
02:54:58,319 --> 02:55:02,319
and we don't have that anymore. and the

4030
02:55:02,319 --> 02:55:06,080
gentleman Craig Gleason from um the open

4031
02:55:06,080 --> 02:55:09,279
space he talked about their doses and

4032
02:55:09,279 --> 02:55:12,319
how many volunteers they have and like

4033
02:55:12,319 --> 02:55:14,240
we don't have any volunteers in fact we

4034
02:55:14,240 --> 02:55:17,200
push them away and to get to your point

4035
02:55:17,200 --> 02:55:19,279
you know someone comes up and says what

4036
02:55:19,279 --> 02:55:23,359
can I do well you know the only

4037
02:55:23,359 --> 02:55:25,680
alternative is join a commission well I

4038
02:55:25,680 --> 02:55:27,760
don't want to do that I don't want to

4039
02:55:27,760 --> 02:55:30,640
crown act it's it just there's too much

4040
02:55:30,640 --> 02:55:32,160
friction there.

4041
02:55:32,160 --> 02:55:34,240
>> It's like a whether we call it Dosens or

4042
02:55:34,240 --> 02:55:38,240
Friends or Don Brown Act thing where we

4043
02:55:38,240 --> 02:55:41,120
won't get a a dirty look from our city

4044
02:55:41,120 --> 02:55:42,880
attorney.

4045
02:55:42,880 --> 02:55:45,840
>> Yeah. I don't know how it's structured,

4046
02:55:45,840 --> 02:55:49,279
>> but if the Mid Pen can do it, we can do

4047
02:55:49,279 --> 02:55:50,080
it. [clears throat]

4048
02:55:50,080 --> 02:55:51,920
>> Yeah. Well, I think the first question

4049
02:55:51,920 --> 02:55:54,319
is what can we do that doesn't fall in

4050
02:55:54,319 --> 02:56:01,520
Brown Act? The second thing is what would we like these people to do?

4051
02:56:01,520 --> 02:56:03,279
Uh

4052
02:56:03,279 --> 02:56:07,279
because again unlike you know

4053
02:56:07,279 --> 02:56:09,920
Loscatos or

4054
02:56:09,920 --> 02:56:13,920
we don't we don't really get we have the

4055
02:56:13,920 --> 02:56:15,920
picnic and the Christmas parade and the

4056
02:56:15,920 --> 02:56:18,880
youth commission and maybe had ice cream

4057
02:56:18,880 --> 02:56:23,680
social but we we we have very very few

4058
02:56:23,680 --> 02:56:26,240
activities that the city puts out. So I

4059
02:56:26,240 --> 02:56:28,240
yeah I'm sorry. Well, you finish and

4060
02:56:28,240 --> 02:56:29,279
then I'll then I'll

4061
02:56:29,279 --> 02:56:30,880
>> I think that that was my point. Just

4062
02:56:30,880 --> 02:56:34,800
thinking uh the idea of having all these

4063
02:56:34,800 --> 02:56:40,479
volunteers sounds great. Uh

4064
02:56:40,479 --> 02:56:44,000
I'm not sure I'd be I'd be interested in

4065
02:56:44,000 --> 02:56:46,800
what we'd like we want to involve them

4066
02:56:46,800 --> 02:56:50,399
in the city, but what would we like them

4067
02:56:50,399 --> 02:56:54,160
to do uh where they would find it, you

4068
02:56:54,160 --> 02:56:57,279
know, worthwhile do?

4069
02:56:57,279 --> 02:56:58,800
So, I'll give you an example.

4070
02:56:58,800 --> 02:56:59,520
>> Okay.

4071
02:56:59,520 --> 02:57:03,680
>> Right. Um Terry McCarthy.

4072
02:57:03,680 --> 02:57:04,560
>> Sure. I know you know.

4073
02:57:04,560 --> 02:57:05,279
>> Yeah.

4074
02:57:05,279 --> 02:57:09,359
>> Um he reached out to me and said, "Hey,

4075
02:57:09,359 --> 02:57:11,120
how could I get involved? How could I do

4076
02:57:11,120 --> 02:57:14,319
something?" And he wanted to help. And

4077
02:57:14,319 --> 02:57:18,880
then it was the opportunity through

4078
02:57:18,880 --> 02:57:20,880
Silicon Valley Clean Energy and having

4079
02:57:20,880 --> 02:57:23,680
an alternate because it just didn't work

4080
02:57:23,680 --> 02:57:26,800
for for all of us. Um

4081
02:57:26,800 --> 02:57:29,600
and then he went through a lot of

4082
02:57:29,600 --> 02:57:32,319
turmoil and friction just getting him.

4083
02:57:32,319 --> 02:57:34,640
He was the only one that well no there

4084
02:57:34,640 --> 02:57:35,920
was actually one other person that

4085
02:57:35,920 --> 02:57:38,399
applied I believe but it was difficult

4086
02:57:38,399 --> 02:57:40,880
for him and then once he got on as the

4087
02:57:40,880 --> 02:57:43,359
alternate he was coming to meetings and

4088
02:57:43,359 --> 02:57:46,000
then he's like well I want to get more

4089
02:57:46,000 --> 02:57:48,160
involved. How do I do that? And now he's

4090
02:57:48,160 --> 02:57:50,319
on the audit committee but it just he

4091
02:57:50,319 --> 02:57:52,560
was very frustrated. He's not here

4092
02:57:52,560 --> 02:57:54,160
tonight. And I know that he's on

4093
02:57:54,160 --> 02:57:55,920
vacation

4094
02:57:55,920 --> 02:57:58,720
um doing some diving, but he is an

4095
02:57:58,720 --> 02:58:02,080
example of someone that came out and got

4096
02:58:02,080 --> 02:58:04,319
involved, but it was very difficult for

4097
02:58:04,319 --> 02:58:06,960
him to get involved. What the rules are

4098
02:58:06,960 --> 02:58:09,200
that we have and you know one of the

4099
02:58:09,200 --> 02:58:12,960
things is um we don't have for example

4100
02:58:12,960 --> 02:58:16,160
an audit committee. you know that could

4101
02:58:16,160 --> 02:58:17,600
you don't want to have all the friction

4102
02:58:17,600 --> 02:58:20,399
of a Brown act but even someone to

4103
02:58:20,399 --> 02:58:22,800
review something like our financial

4104
02:58:22,800 --> 02:58:26,160
statements that he's a retired CPA with

4105
02:58:26,160 --> 02:58:28,960
ex Deoy partner you know I'm just

4106
02:58:28,960 --> 02:58:30,720
tossing that out because that's what I

4107
02:58:30,720 --> 02:58:33,040
know but there's probably other people

4108
02:58:33,040 --> 02:58:35,439
that want to somehow get involved but

4109
02:58:35,439 --> 02:58:38,880
not to the extent of a Brown act more of

4110
02:58:38,880 --> 02:58:43,120
a and I'll just use the word dosent in

4111
02:58:43,120 --> 02:58:46,720
quotation or maybe subject to hearing

4112
02:58:46,720 --> 02:58:51,040
from the city what where I'm coming from

4113
02:58:51,040 --> 02:58:54,960
why when I think anybody here identifies

4114
02:58:54,960 --> 02:58:58,240
a place where we think the city would

4115
02:58:58,240 --> 02:59:00,960
benefit from volunteerism

4116
02:59:00,960 --> 02:59:03,520
then we could arm wrestle with the city

4117
02:59:03,520 --> 02:59:05,840
attorney to see if we could do that in a

4118
02:59:05,840 --> 02:59:08,000
non broad thing because I take your

4119
02:59:08,000 --> 02:59:10,880
point when I first got involved 15 16

4120
02:59:10,880 --> 02:59:13,040
years ago get I served on a dozen

4121
02:59:13,040 --> 02:59:14,960
for-profit boards and an equal number of

4122
02:59:14,960 --> 02:59:18,399
nonprofit boards. And you never went

4123
02:59:18,399 --> 02:59:20,240
into a board meeting if you didn't have

4124
02:59:20,240 --> 02:59:21,760
your ducks lined up. And when I got

4125
02:59:21,760 --> 02:59:24,000
involved in city government was, oh no,

4126
02:59:24,000 --> 02:59:26,000
you can't line up your ducks because of

4127
02:59:26,000 --> 02:59:28,960
the Brown Act. And I found that very

4128
02:59:28,960 --> 02:59:33,120
frustrating. And uh if you drop down on

4129
02:59:33,120 --> 02:59:34,800
me, the city attorney will tell you that

4130
02:59:34,800 --> 02:59:37,840
I still find that very frustrating. But

4131
02:59:37,840 --> 02:59:40,240
maybe we have to start with where we

4132
02:59:40,240 --> 02:59:41,840
think

4133
02:59:41,840 --> 02:59:44,160
we could use some volunteerism and it's

4134
02:59:44,160 --> 02:59:46,319
something that residents would find to

4135
02:59:46,319 --> 02:59:50,479
be worthwhile and then we get back into

4136
02:59:50,479 --> 02:59:54,960
how is there a way to structure it uh

4137
02:59:54,960 --> 02:59:56,720
you know

4138
02:59:56,720 --> 02:59:59,439
informally. Uh but I think we should

4139
02:59:59,439 --> 03:00:01,120
start with things that we'd like these

4140
03:00:01,120 --> 03:00:03,279
people to do. I mean, Terry's doing this

4141
03:00:03,279 --> 03:00:06,319
because the work is of interest to him

4142
03:00:06,319 --> 03:00:08,720
because of what he's done his whole

4143
03:00:08,720 --> 03:00:11,359
life. So, you know, I would say let's

4144
03:00:11,359 --> 03:00:13,520
figure out things where it would, you

4145
03:00:13,520 --> 03:00:15,120
know, because we only have four

4146
03:00:15,120 --> 03:00:18,880
full-time employees here. Uh thing where

4147
03:00:18,880 --> 03:00:21,439
gee, we this is something we'd like

4148
03:00:21,439 --> 03:00:23,040
done, but we don't want to add someone

4149
03:00:23,040 --> 03:00:25,520
to the payroll. Uh it'd be nice to have

4150
03:00:25,520 --> 03:00:28,160
an informal committee doing whatever it

4151
03:00:28,160 --> 03:00:31,520
is. Volunteers. Volunteers. And I think

4152
03:00:31,520 --> 03:00:34,640
if people have ideas, uh, they should,

4153
03:00:34,640 --> 03:00:36,479
you know, we should look [clears throat]

4154
03:00:36,479 --> 03:00:39,840
into it. Yes. [snorts] So, while we're

4155
03:00:39,840 --> 03:00:42,000
talking about volunteers, I wanted to

4156
03:00:42,000 --> 03:00:45,439
talk about getting more volunteers on

4157
03:00:45,439 --> 03:00:48,240
this to at least run for city council.

4158
03:00:48,240 --> 03:00:49,920
>> We're now going through our third

4159
03:00:49,920 --> 03:00:52,319
election period where we did not have

4160
03:00:52,319 --> 03:00:55,439
anybody run. And and I find it a little

4161
03:00:55,439 --> 03:00:58,000
interesting that we didn't get anybody

4162
03:00:58,000 --> 03:01:02,560
sign up, but yet when there was a

4163
03:01:02,560 --> 03:01:05,040
open position, we had five people sign

4164
03:01:05,040 --> 03:01:06,080
up.

4165
03:01:06,080 --> 03:01:07,600
>> Yeah. When it was to be appointed, we

4166
03:01:07,600 --> 03:01:08,880
had five people

4167
03:01:08,880 --> 03:01:10,560
>> and because no one wants to go through

4168
03:01:10,560 --> 03:01:13,439
the BS of running for an election.

4169
03:01:13,439 --> 03:01:17,439
>> Exactly. So, so one of the things I was

4170
03:01:17,439 --> 03:01:21,439
hoping to work on um leading into the

4171
03:01:21,439 --> 03:01:23,760
next election is how can we get more

4172
03:01:23,760 --> 03:01:27,279
people to run for office? And I think um

4173
03:01:27,279 --> 03:01:30,319
part of it is making sure that we can

4174
03:01:30,319 --> 03:01:36,479
explain to people what does running for office entail? And

4175
03:01:36,479 --> 03:01:38,880
I know some people think I mean I talked

4176
03:01:38,880 --> 03:01:40,399
to one guy like well I don't have

4177
03:01:40,399 --> 03:01:42,000
$20,000.

4178
03:01:42,000 --> 03:01:44,560
I said, 'Well, it doesn't cost 20,000.

4179
03:01:44,560 --> 03:01:47,760
>> It's at least 100,000. It's not unique.

4180
03:01:47,760 --> 03:01:50,560
Saratoga has three openings. They have

4181
03:01:50,560 --> 03:01:53,520
four people running for three openings.

4182
03:01:53,520 --> 03:01:57,279
So, you know, Las says five for two, I

4183
03:01:57,279 --> 03:01:59,359
think. I thought it was seven.

4184
03:01:59,359 --> 03:02:00,560
>> I heard six for three.

4185
03:02:00,560 --> 03:02:01,760
>> I thought I heard seven.

4186
03:02:01,760 --> 03:02:02,399
>> I heard seven.

4187
03:02:02,399 --> 03:02:04,000
>> Seven for three.

4188
03:02:04,000 --> 03:02:07,040
>> That's what I heard seven. But, um,

4189
03:02:07,040 --> 03:02:07,920
yeah, it's

4190
03:02:07,920 --> 03:02:09,600
>> it could be six. So, I'm not sure about

4191
03:02:09,600 --> 03:02:11,760
>> six or seven. Let's say that. whatever.

4192
03:02:11,760 --> 03:02:14,720
I know it's worth I'm just saying, you

4193
03:02:14,720 --> 03:02:16,560
know, some of the some of the things

4194
03:02:16,560 --> 03:02:20,640
that um we we might want to consider is

4195
03:02:20,640 --> 03:02:22,880
maybe doing something like paying for

4196
03:02:22,880 --> 03:02:25,040
the candidate statement that runs about

4197
03:02:25,040 --> 03:02:26,720
$300.

4198
03:02:26,720 --> 03:02:27,760
3,000

4199
03:02:27,760 --> 03:02:30,800
>> 3,000 now.

4200
03:02:30,800 --> 03:02:33,040
>> But the other thing I was thinking about

4201
03:02:33,040 --> 03:02:35,279
is why do we have to pay for that when

4202
03:02:35,279 --> 03:02:38,399
we could I mean we're such a we could

4203
03:02:38,399 --> 03:02:41,120
literally send out a special edition of

4204
03:02:41,120 --> 03:02:43,920
the peaceful map monitor with a profile

4205
03:02:43,920 --> 03:02:46,720
of all

4206
03:02:46,720 --> 03:02:49,279
edition of whatever you call that thing.

4207
03:02:49,279 --> 03:02:51,760
>> I love it that we're going to we're

4208
03:02:51,760 --> 03:02:53,920
going to have three of them.

4209
03:02:53,920 --> 03:02:55,520
>> Whoa.

4210
03:02:55,520 --> 03:02:57,439
change or something like that. But

4211
03:02:57,439 --> 03:02:59,680
>> some rules on what how the city can be

4212
03:02:59,680 --> 03:03:02,399
involved in campaigns, but

4213
03:03:02,399 --> 03:03:04,800
>> but you could,

4214
03:03:04,800 --> 03:03:06,160
>> you know, there's things that you could

4215
03:03:06,160 --> 03:03:07,920
probably

4216
03:03:07,920 --> 03:03:09,600
talk about it so that people wouldn't

4217
03:03:09,600 --> 03:03:12,479
feel intimidated by the cost because

4218
03:03:12,479 --> 03:03:14,080
they're like, "Oh, I got to buy yard

4219
03:03:14,080 --> 03:03:15,760
signs." No, you don't have to do all

4220
03:03:15,760 --> 03:03:18,319
that. All you have to do

4221
03:03:18,319 --> 03:03:20,399
and we'll help you take care of the rest

4222
03:03:20,399 --> 03:03:22,640
of it. I mean, Boyisey does a great job

4223
03:03:22,640 --> 03:03:24,240
making sure all the paperwork gets

4224
03:03:24,240 --> 03:03:26,560
filled out and it all gets filed and

4225
03:03:26,560 --> 03:03:28,080
making sure that you understand what a

4226
03:03:28,080 --> 03:03:30,080
form 700 is all about. I'm already

4227
03:03:30,080 --> 03:03:32,479
making it sound.

4228
03:03:32,479 --> 03:03:35,359
>> Look, I think it's a good point and we

4229
03:03:35,359 --> 03:03:42,790
have an election in uh two years and u

4230
03:03:42,800 --> 03:03:44,319
you know, I never focused on the point

4231
03:03:44,319 --> 03:03:46,319
you didn't do. We have five applicants

4232
03:03:46,319 --> 03:03:47,600
to fill a seat where they don't have to

4233
03:03:47,600 --> 03:03:49,840
go through the election process. I don't

4234
03:03:49,840 --> 03:03:54,560
think it's the money thing we,

4235
03:03:54,560 --> 03:03:56,160
you know,

4236
03:03:56,160 --> 03:03:58,240
>> I know there's more to it, but I just

4237
03:03:58,240 --> 03:04:00,880
>> I think it's just the

4238
03:04:00,880 --> 03:04:05,600
uh it's just doing an election.

4239
03:04:05,600 --> 03:04:08,640
uh and uh

4240
03:04:08,640 --> 03:04:10,800
yeah,

4241
03:04:10,800 --> 03:04:13,600
>> yeah, I I don't know why, but I I take

4242
03:04:13,600 --> 03:04:16,399
your uh point, but it it is interesting

4243
03:04:16,399 --> 03:04:19,359
that even in Saratoga, they only have

4244
03:04:19,359 --> 03:04:20,960
four people in your seats.

4245
03:04:20,960 --> 03:04:23,200
>> And and last year, all three of our

4246
03:04:23,200 --> 03:04:26,800
cities did all appointments. Nobody ran

4247
03:04:26,800 --> 03:04:30,080
for office except for the incumbent.

4248
03:04:30,080 --> 03:04:32,960
>> Well, we have two years to address that.

4249
03:04:32,960 --> 03:04:37,520
Oh, I was going to say um I think we're

4250
03:04:37,520 --> 03:04:41,840
leading into the next item on the agenda

4251
03:04:41,840 --> 03:04:46,399
uh which is the um new the appointing

4252
03:04:46,399 --> 03:04:48,640
the the

4253
03:04:48,640 --> 03:04:50,240
not having the election.

4254
03:04:50,240 --> 03:04:53,990
>> Well, I

4255
03:04:54,000 --> 03:04:56,800
Okay. On item uh seven, I see no hands

4256
03:04:56,800 --> 03:05:00,720
raised for public comment. So, this is a

4257
03:05:00,720 --> 03:05:03,920
two-step process that I explain to

4258
03:05:03,920 --> 03:05:07,760
everybody here in TV land. Step one is

4259
03:05:07,760 --> 03:05:09,840
that Vton reminds me and I need you to

4260
03:05:09,840 --> 03:05:12,160
be reminded every time to do this. And

4261
03:05:12,160 --> 03:05:14,479
step two is that Brian giggles and I

4262
03:05:14,479 --> 03:05:17,040
deserve the giggle. So, you've done step

4263
03:05:17,040 --> 03:05:18,479
one, want to do that.

4264
03:05:18,479 --> 03:05:19,040
>> You already did it.

4265
03:05:19,040 --> 03:05:20,880
>> Oh, you already did it. Uh, any hands

4266
03:05:20,880 --> 03:05:21,439
raised?

4267
03:05:21,439 --> 03:05:22,399
>> No hands raised.

4268
03:05:22,399 --> 03:05:25,120
>> Well, let's go to the next one. Uh, and

4269
03:05:25,120 --> 03:05:28,720
not spend money. Uh so please madam city

4270
03:05:28,720 --> 03:05:30,479
manager are you giving the madam city

4271
03:05:30,479 --> 03:05:30,960
clerk?

4272
03:05:30,960 --> 03:05:32,080
>> Sorry. Yes.

4273
03:05:32,080 --> 03:05:44,469
>> Okay. So item item eight.

4274
03:05:44,479 --> 03:05:47,279
So, at the June 16, 2026 city council

4275
03:05:47,279 --> 03:05:49,200
meeting, the council adopted resolution

4276
03:05:49,200 --> 03:05:52,000
number 26-3960

4277
03:05:52,000 --> 03:05:54,720
calling the November 3rd, 2026 general

4278
03:05:54,720 --> 03:05:56,560
municipal election and requested that

4279
03:05:56,560 --> 03:05:58,319
the county consolidate the general

4280
03:05:58,319 --> 03:06:00,160
municipal election with the statewide

4281
03:06:00,160 --> 03:06:02,720
general election. The municipal election

4282
03:06:02,720 --> 03:06:04,479
is for the election of the three council

4283
03:06:04,479 --> 03:06:07,359
members for the four full four uh year

4284
03:06:07,359 --> 03:06:09,760
terms. The initial nomination period ran

4285
03:06:09,760 --> 03:06:13,279
from July 13, 2026 through August 7th,

4286
03:06:13,279 --> 03:06:15,279
uh, 2026.

4287
03:06:15,279 --> 03:06:17,040
At the close of the regular nomination

4288
03:06:17,040 --> 03:06:19,200
period, one eligible incumbent did not

4289
03:06:19,200 --> 03:06:21,279
file nomination papers in accordance

4290
03:06:21,279 --> 03:06:22,880
with the California Elections Code

4291
03:06:22,880 --> 03:06:26,160
section 10225.

4292
03:06:26,160 --> 03:06:28,479
The nomination period was extended for

4293
03:06:28,479 --> 03:06:31,200
five uh, calendar days for individuals

4294
03:06:31,200 --> 03:06:32,800
other than the incumbent to file

4295
03:06:32,800 --> 03:06:35,200
nomination documents. At the conclusion

4296
03:06:35,200 --> 03:06:36,880
of the extended nomination period, the

4297
03:06:36,880 --> 03:06:38,960
total number of qualified candidates did

4298
03:06:38,960 --> 03:06:41,279
not exceed the number of offices to be

4299
03:06:41,279 --> 03:06:42,960
filled. Additionally, no petition

4300
03:06:42,960 --> 03:06:45,920
requesting the elections to be conducted

4301
03:06:45,920 --> 03:06:49,359
was filed has been filed. The election

4302
03:06:49,359 --> 03:06:52,560
code section 10229 authorizes the city

4303
03:06:52,560 --> 03:06:54,479
council to cancel the election and

4304
03:06:54,479 --> 03:06:56,399
appoint the nominated candidates in lie

4305
03:06:56,399 --> 03:06:58,640
of the conducting the uncontested

4306
03:06:58,640 --> 03:07:00,319
election.

4307
03:07:00,319 --> 03:07:02,640
As of the closed of the election

4308
03:07:02,640 --> 03:07:05,120
extended nomination period, sorry, uh,

4309
03:07:05,120 --> 03:07:07,600
Ken Torren, Burton Craig, and Allison

4310
03:07:07,600 --> 03:07:10,399
Zidler filed nomination papers and were

4311
03:07:10,399 --> 03:07:13,040
reviewed by the city clerk, myself, uh,

4312
03:07:13,040 --> 03:07:15,200
and determined to meet the requirements

4313
03:07:15,200 --> 03:07:17,920
for submission.

4314
03:07:17,920 --> 03:07:20,080
So, in tonight's meeting, um staff

4315
03:07:20,080 --> 03:07:21,680
recommends that the council adopt a

4316
03:07:21,680 --> 03:07:24,240
resolution cancelling the November 3rd,

4317
03:07:24,240 --> 03:07:26,960
2026 general municipal election and

4318
03:07:26,960 --> 03:07:29,200
appoint the nominated candidates to the

4319
03:07:29,200 --> 03:07:30,640
city council.

4320
03:07:30,640 --> 03:07:32,640
>> In the interest of time, if there are no

4321
03:07:32,640 --> 03:07:35,279
questions of council members, I will see

4322
03:07:35,279 --> 03:07:37,600
if there are any public comments. You

4323
03:07:37,600 --> 03:07:41,920
could still go Brian. Uh I assume from

4324
03:07:41,920 --> 03:07:44,160
our discussion there are no questions. I

4325
03:07:44,160 --> 03:07:46,319
don't see hands raised. Any hands raised

4326
03:07:46,319 --> 03:07:48,319
online, madam clerk?

4327
03:07:48,319 --> 03:07:49,439
>> No hands are raised.

4328
03:07:49,439 --> 03:07:52,319
>> Then uh yes, I council member Mache,

4329
03:07:52,319 --> 03:07:53,600
>> I wanted to make a motion.

4330
03:07:53,600 --> 03:07:55,120
>> Please make the motion.

4331
03:07:55,120 --> 03:07:58,800
>> I would like to make a motion adopting

4332
03:07:58,800 --> 03:08:01,680
the resolution as set forth in the staff

4333
03:08:01,680 --> 03:08:02,479
report.

4334
03:08:02,479 --> 03:08:03,600
>> Is there a second?

4335
03:08:03,600 --> 03:08:04,720
>> I'll second it.

4336
03:08:04,720 --> 03:08:07,120
>> And madam, city attorney, is this a

4337
03:08:07,120 --> 03:08:08,880
voice or a roll call?

4338
03:08:08,880 --> 03:08:10,160
>> Okay, [clears throat] madam. City clerk,

4339
03:08:10,160 --> 03:08:12,000
would you call the role, please?

4340
03:08:12,000 --> 03:08:13,439
>> Council member Torren,

4341
03:08:13,439 --> 03:08:15,279
>> I. Council member Craig,

4342
03:08:15,279 --> 03:08:16,240
>> yes.

4343
03:08:16,240 --> 03:08:17,520
>> Council member Mecca,

4344
03:08:17,520 --> 03:08:18,560
>> hi.

4345
03:08:18,560 --> 03:08:19,920
>> Vice Mayor Shannon,

4346
03:08:19,920 --> 03:08:21,920
>> yes. And Mayor Allen,

4347
03:08:21,920 --> 03:08:23,120
>> yes.

4348
03:08:23,120 --> 03:08:24,880
>> Um

4349
03:08:24,880 --> 03:08:27,439
the the Let's go on to the last item on

4350
03:08:27,439 --> 03:08:30,160
the congratulations.

4351
03:08:30,160 --> 03:08:31,200
>> Thank um

4352
03:08:31,200 --> 03:08:33,680
>> and thank you for Sorry, Chair. Thank

4353
03:08:33,680 --> 03:08:35,439
you for stepping forward, you know, once

4354
03:08:35,439 --> 03:08:38,319
again to continue your service and we'll

4355
03:08:38,319 --> 03:08:41,040
look forward to welcoming Alison.

4356
03:08:41,040 --> 03:08:43,680
>> How long is the ter the term? It's It's

4357
03:08:43,680 --> 03:08:47,200
a four-year term.

4358
03:08:47,200 --> 03:08:48,319
>> Just checking.

4359
03:08:48,319 --> 03:08:50,080
>> Congratulations. Somebody said two

4360
03:08:50,080 --> 03:08:50,640
years.

4361
03:08:50,640 --> 03:08:52,479
>> No, no, it's four years. The next

4362
03:08:52,479 --> 03:08:56,240
election is uh I I want to say that I

4363
03:08:56,240 --> 03:09:00,880
think for the residents swapping out an

4364
03:09:00,880 --> 03:09:03,680
83y old and getting a 50-y old is very

4365
03:09:03,680 --> 03:09:07,760
good for the city. U

4366
03:09:07,760 --> 03:09:09,439
they they they're getting uh they're

4367
03:09:09,439 --> 03:09:11,439
swamping an 83y old, they're getting a

4368
03:09:11,439 --> 03:09:14,240
50-y old. I think that's a good grade.

4369
03:09:14,240 --> 03:09:15,920
>> And u wow.

4370
03:09:15,920 --> 03:09:18,399
>> And I also want to point out that for a

4371
03:09:18,399 --> 03:09:20,560
long time, Council Mech has talked about

4372
03:09:20,560 --> 03:09:22,960
getting a younger generation involved.

4373
03:09:22,960 --> 03:09:25,279
So I'm doing my part. I noticed Chuck

4374
03:09:25,279 --> 03:09:27,040
Page was also doing his part and not

4375
03:09:27,040 --> 03:09:30,880
running for reelection. Um on the next

4376
03:09:30,880 --> 03:09:33,520
item, I don't see manager within the

4377
03:09:33,520 --> 03:09:36,240
same time. I want to go on record saying

4378
03:09:36,240 --> 03:09:39,359
I I like the u drafting changes that

4379
03:09:39,359 --> 03:09:42,720
contor mech is proposing but maybe you

4380
03:09:42,720 --> 03:09:44,560
could present madam city manager and

4381
03:09:44,560 --> 03:09:49,359
been practicing macheek you could uh u

4382
03:09:49,359 --> 03:09:52,160
make your comments and maybe uh as a

4383
03:09:52,160 --> 03:09:55,840
modified resolution uh which I assume

4384
03:09:55,840 --> 03:09:59,600
attorney will allow us to do.

4385
03:09:59,600 --> 03:10:02,319
So madam city manager please.

4386
03:10:02,319 --> 03:10:04,880
>> Yes thank you. The regulations and

4387
03:10:04,880 --> 03:10:06,640
guidelines for the conduct of public

4388
03:10:06,640 --> 03:10:09,120
meetings includes procedures for

4389
03:10:09,120 --> 03:10:11,920
attending council meetings um including

4390
03:10:11,920 --> 03:10:14,479
the agendas, rules for addressing the

4391
03:10:14,479 --> 03:10:16,560
council, selection of mayor and vice

4392
03:10:16,560 --> 03:10:19,359
mayor, rules of procedure and debate

4393
03:10:19,359 --> 03:10:22,399
minutes and disciplinary procedures. A

4394
03:10:22,399 --> 03:10:24,800
suggestion was recently made to consider

4395
03:10:24,800 --> 03:10:26,640
changing the start time for city council

4396
03:10:26,640 --> 03:10:29,680
meetings to 6:00 p.m. from 7:00 p.m. and

4397
03:10:29,680 --> 03:10:32,319
the draft policy would change um that

4398
03:10:32,319 --> 03:10:34,960
start time if obviously if council were

4399
03:10:34,960 --> 03:10:37,120
to adopt it tonight. There are some

4400
03:10:37,120 --> 03:10:39,760
other proposed administrative um changes

4401
03:10:39,760 --> 03:10:42,880
in the um to the policy and those are

4402
03:10:42,880 --> 03:10:45,040
provided in a redlinined um version

4403
03:10:45,040 --> 03:10:47,760
attached to the staff report tonight. Um

4404
03:10:47,760 --> 03:10:49,840
those do not change any policy or

4405
03:10:49,840 --> 03:10:52,560
current practices but are um

4406
03:10:52,560 --> 03:10:55,120
administrative clarifications.

4407
03:10:55,120 --> 03:10:57,439
And council member Mechach has proposed

4408
03:10:57,439 --> 03:10:59,760
an additional modification to the policy

4409
03:10:59,760 --> 03:11:01,920
which was provided to each council

4410
03:11:01,920 --> 03:11:04,240
member tonight. And this would clarify

4411
03:11:04,240 --> 03:11:05,920
that members of the public with

4412
03:11:05,920 --> 03:11:08,319
materials to distribute to the council

4413
03:11:08,319 --> 03:11:10,080
should hand those materials to the city

4414
03:11:10,080 --> 03:11:12,960
clerk for distribution rather than um

4415
03:11:12,960 --> 03:11:14,960
approaching each council member to do

4416
03:11:14,960 --> 03:11:17,840
so. And that concludes the staff report

4417
03:11:17,840 --> 03:11:20,319
and I'm happy.

4418
03:11:20,319 --> 03:11:23,439
Would you like to add to the uh staff

4419
03:11:23,439 --> 03:11:24,399
report?

4420
03:11:24,399 --> 03:11:27,040
>> No, I'll just make a comment, but I can

4421
03:11:27,040 --> 03:11:29,439
do that afterwards. Or do you want me to

4422
03:11:29,439 --> 03:11:30,479
make the comment right now?

4423
03:11:30,479 --> 03:11:32,160
>> Why don't you make the comment now and

4424
03:11:32,160 --> 03:11:33,680
then we'll see if there are questions.

4425
03:11:33,680 --> 03:11:36,240
But I I thought if you'd add to the

4426
03:11:36,240 --> 03:11:38,160
report then when people ask questions.

4427
03:11:38,160 --> 03:11:41,760
>> Oh, I understand. Okay. Um

4428
03:11:41,760 --> 03:11:44,800
I guess I've been trouble. So, when I

4429
03:11:44,800 --> 03:11:49,279
first came to council meetings in 1999,

4430
03:11:49,279 --> 03:11:52,880
um, former mayor Dorothia Bamford at the

4431
03:11:52,880 --> 03:11:55,680
time was kind of coaching me a little

4432
03:11:55,680 --> 03:11:57,680
bit on how to deal with council and

4433
03:11:57,680 --> 03:12:00,080
stuff. And then the other thing was back

4434
03:12:00,080 --> 03:12:04,479
then, no one would approach the deis if

4435
03:12:04,479 --> 03:12:06,080
they had something that they wanted

4436
03:12:06,080 --> 03:12:08,399
distributed. And it was for a number of

4437
03:12:08,399 --> 03:12:10,319
years that they would have to go through

4438
03:12:10,319 --> 03:12:14,000
the clerk or through the city attorney

4439
03:12:14,000 --> 03:12:16,240
to give them materials and ask that they

4440
03:12:16,240 --> 03:12:18,399
be distributed. And then in the last few

4441
03:12:18,399 --> 03:12:21,760
years, it seems to have become more

4442
03:12:21,760 --> 03:12:24,080
informal. And when there's people that I

4443
03:12:24,080 --> 03:12:27,120
don't recognize in chambers and they

4444
03:12:27,120 --> 03:12:29,120
start approaching the podium or sorry

4445
03:12:29,120 --> 03:12:31,200
the deis saying I want to distribute

4446
03:12:31,200 --> 03:12:33,520
some information, I'm getting uh I'm not

4447
03:12:33,520 --> 03:12:36,640
feeling comfortable about that. So what

4448
03:12:36,640 --> 03:12:39,520
I did was given the opportunity when I

4449
03:12:39,520 --> 03:12:42,800
saw it on the agenda to make changes, uh

4450
03:12:42,800 --> 03:12:45,920
there happened to be uh item five that

4451
03:12:45,920 --> 03:12:51,200
was vacant. Um and uh the our city

4452
03:12:51,200 --> 03:12:54,720
attorney dropped in the language uh that

4453
03:12:54,720 --> 03:12:57,520
and she's gone through and she believes

4454
03:12:57,520 --> 03:13:01,040
it's robust. So that's the background on

4455
03:13:01,040 --> 03:13:03,439
why I thought the changes there that

4456
03:13:03,439 --> 03:13:06,800
items should be added.

4457
03:13:06,800 --> 03:13:09,600
>> Are there questions either of the city

4458
03:13:09,600 --> 03:13:12,640
manager or council member MCH?

4459
03:13:12,640 --> 03:13:16,160
If not, I will open it to questions. I

4460
03:13:16,160 --> 03:13:19,520
see no hands raised. U madam city clerk,

4461
03:13:19,520 --> 03:13:21,040
are there any hands raised online?

4462
03:13:21,040 --> 03:13:22,800
>> No hands are raised. Well, let me bring

4463
03:13:22,800 --> 03:13:26,479
it back and as it's 10:15,

4464
03:13:26,479 --> 03:13:28,479
if anybody has comments, please make it.

4465
03:13:28,479 --> 03:13:30,880
If not, I would call for a vote and

4466
03:13:30,880 --> 03:13:32,960
maybe you would. Yes, council member.

4467
03:13:32,960 --> 03:13:35,840
>> We had discussed using this agenda item

4468
03:13:35,840 --> 03:13:38,640
to also move council member um committee

4469
03:13:38,640 --> 03:13:40,479
and commission reports to the front of

4470
03:13:40,479 --> 03:13:41,600
the meeting.

4471
03:13:41,600 --> 03:13:43,600
>> Well, u maybe either you or council

4472
03:13:43,600 --> 03:13:46,319
member Mack, I can make a motion that

4473
03:13:46,319 --> 03:13:49,439
encompasses all that.

4474
03:13:49,439 --> 03:13:51,760
if I could just make one comment on that

4475
03:13:51,760 --> 03:13:53,680
and then I'd be pleased to make a motion

4476
03:13:53,680 --> 03:13:56,560
or a second a motion. But I think that

4477
03:13:56,560 --> 03:14:00,800
if the if council chambers are full,

4478
03:14:00,800 --> 03:14:04,399
then I think it's good to deal with that

4479
03:14:04,399 --> 03:14:06,960
with whatever the matter is for

4480
03:14:06,960 --> 03:14:09,120
expediency and and with respect and

4481
03:14:09,120 --> 03:14:09,840
courtesy for the people

4482
03:14:09,840 --> 03:14:11,760
>> and courtesy for the people. But I think

4483
03:14:11,760 --> 03:14:15,920
it's it's the job of the mayor who's

4484
03:14:15,920 --> 03:14:18,160
chairing the meeting to read the room

4485
03:14:18,160 --> 03:14:20,800
and maybe ask something like, you know,

4486
03:14:20,800 --> 03:14:22,960
if it's okay with everyone, we're going

4487
03:14:22,960 --> 03:14:25,120
to we're going to move this item out

4488
03:14:25,120 --> 03:14:27,920
like whatever it is, but just not take a

4489
03:14:27,920 --> 03:14:29,840
to be [clears throat] able to move it to

4490
03:14:29,840 --> 03:14:30,640
for courtesy.

4491
03:14:30,640 --> 03:14:33,120
>> You're saying a capella and I guess it

4492
03:14:33,120 --> 03:14:35,600
would also be helpful to have a mayor

4493
03:14:35,600 --> 03:14:38,080
members ask for public comments.

4494
03:14:38,080 --> 03:14:42,080
I wasn't going to point that out, but okay.

4495
03:14:42,080 --> 03:14:44,640
>> Um, are there other comments or could we

4496
03:14:44,640 --> 03:14:46,160
have one of these gentlemen make a

4497
03:14:46,160 --> 03:14:47,600
motion and the other one second?

4498
03:14:47,600 --> 03:14:49,520
>> Well, I don't understand where we're So,

4499
03:14:49,520 --> 03:14:50,960
we're talking about the committee and

4500
03:14:50,960 --> 03:14:52,720
commission reports and then also the

4501
03:14:52,720 --> 03:14:54,640
council member comments, both those

4502
03:14:54,640 --> 03:14:55,920
items or just the council member

4503
03:14:55,920 --> 03:14:56,239
comments.

4504
03:14:56,239 --> 03:14:58,160
>> No, just just the committee and

4505
03:14:58,160 --> 03:15:00,319
commission reports. I believe that's so

4506
03:15:00,319 --> 03:15:04,000
that people see what we're doing.

4507
03:15:04,000 --> 03:15:05,760
>> And so, that would come at what point in

4508
03:15:05,760 --> 03:15:07,120
the agenda? I mean it's going to be

4509
03:15:07,120 --> 03:15:08,319
after the roll call

4510
03:15:08,319 --> 03:15:11,040
>> after after a present the presentation

4511
03:15:11,040 --> 03:15:12,800
has everything right like you want to

4512
03:15:12,800 --> 03:15:14,080
have the people that are presenting

4513
03:15:14,080 --> 03:15:15,680
which are off in the fire the police

4514
03:15:15,680 --> 03:15:17,520
they're here they're gone

4515
03:15:17,520 --> 03:15:17,920
>> then

4516
03:15:17,920 --> 03:15:20,640
>> right it would be before oral comments

4517
03:15:20,640 --> 03:15:21,600
>> yes

4518
03:15:21,600 --> 03:15:23,520
>> on items that are not on the agenda.

4519
03:15:23,520 --> 03:15:26,080
>> Yes.

4520
03:15:26,080 --> 03:15:28,239
>> So where's the actual page

4521
03:15:28,239 --> 03:15:32,239
>> uh section nine page three.

4522
03:15:32,239 --> 03:15:36,640
So if you wanted to do that you would um

4523
03:15:36,640 --> 03:15:38,640
move item

4524
03:15:38,640 --> 03:15:40,640
N

4525
03:15:40,640 --> 03:15:42,640
to

4526
03:15:42,640 --> 03:15:46,960
just before um oral communications. That

4527
03:15:46,960 --> 03:15:50,160
would become the new G and then

4528
03:15:50,160 --> 03:15:51,680
everything else would move down. So it's

4529
03:15:51,680 --> 03:15:54,319
on page 112 of 130 sorry

4530
03:15:54,319 --> 03:15:56,399
>> in the lower right

4531
03:15:56,399 --> 03:15:57,920
>> in or

4532
03:15:57,920 --> 03:16:00,560
>> in the packet

4533
03:16:00,560 --> 03:16:04,399
>> and it would be moving item N

4534
03:16:04,399 --> 03:16:06,239
to

4535
03:16:06,239 --> 03:16:12,000
>> the G new item G between old F or F and

4536
03:16:12,000 --> 03:16:14,960
old G.

4537
03:16:14,960 --> 03:16:16,720
>> See where that is?

4538
03:16:16,720 --> 03:16:21,110
>> Yeah, it's at it's page 105.

4539
03:16:21,120 --> 03:16:22,960
Okay.

4540
03:16:22,960 --> 03:16:28,880
Are there more questions or are we So, that's what it is. So, I would make a

4541
03:16:28,880 --> 03:16:34,720
motion to adopt the um resolution

4542
03:16:34,720 --> 03:16:40,880
as set forth with the addition of the um

4543
03:16:40,880 --> 03:16:44,399
item five, distribution of doc documents

4544
03:16:44,399 --> 03:16:49,520
to council during meeting and moving

4545
03:16:49,520 --> 03:16:55,200
item N to uh after item F

4546
03:16:55,200 --> 03:16:56,239
>> in section 9

4547
03:16:56,239 --> 03:16:57,840
>> in section deny.

4548
03:16:57,840 --> 03:17:00,000
>> That's your motion. Is there a second?

4549
03:17:00,000 --> 03:17:01,920
>> I I would just like to see if I could

4550
03:17:01,920 --> 03:17:04,880
add one more friendly amendment just

4551
03:17:04,880 --> 03:17:08,399
since we don't do this very often and

4552
03:17:08,399 --> 03:17:11,520
we'll never need it, I'm sure, but some

4553
03:17:11,520 --> 03:17:15,920
other jurisdictions put a limit on oral

4554
03:17:15,920 --> 03:17:18,000
communication where they will limit it

4555
03:17:18,000 --> 03:17:21,040
to the first 30 minutes or 15 minutes of

4556
03:17:21,040 --> 03:17:23,439
the meeting. After that, everything gets

4557
03:17:23,439 --> 03:17:27,120
moved to the end. And so this would be

4558
03:17:27,120 --> 03:17:28,560
our time to try to do something like

4559
03:17:28,560 --> 03:17:29,439
that if we want.

4560
03:17:29,439 --> 03:17:31,680
>> Has we ever

4561
03:17:31,680 --> 03:17:33,840
I'm just saying at least we have the

4562
03:17:33,840 --> 03:17:35,600
rule in case we needed it.

4563
03:17:35,600 --> 03:17:36,960
>> I I don't have strong feelings,

4564
03:17:36,960 --> 03:17:38,560
>> you know, like in case we get zoom

4565
03:17:38,560 --> 03:17:40,160
bombed again now that we're doing all of

4566
03:17:40,160 --> 03:17:41,920
our

4567
03:17:41,920 --> 03:17:44,160
>> uh does it make is that agreeable to the

4568
03:17:44,160 --> 03:17:45,680
maker of the motion? [clears throat]

4569
03:17:45,680 --> 03:17:49,520
>> I figure out where it is first. Hold on.

4570
03:17:49,520 --> 03:17:52,640
But you talk about

4571
03:17:52,640 --> 03:17:56,160
going to stare at you. So pretty. I I

4572
03:17:56,160 --> 03:17:58,000
just want to find out if if

4573
03:17:58,000 --> 03:18:01,359
>> Yeah, it's I the town of Loscatoos does

4574
03:18:01,359 --> 03:18:05,279
that today and other councils do that.

4575
03:18:05,279 --> 03:18:08,000
We that hasn't been a problem here. You

4576
03:18:08,000 --> 03:18:10,399
could put forth if it becomes a problem,

4577
03:18:10,399 --> 03:18:12,640
let's address it or you could say let's

4578
03:18:12,640 --> 03:18:14,880
spend the time and put it in now. It's

4579
03:18:14,880 --> 03:18:17,359
six to me. It's I don't have strong

4580
03:18:17,359 --> 03:18:17,840
feelings.

4581
03:18:17,840 --> 03:18:18,479
>> Yeah.

4582
03:18:18,479 --> 03:18:20,720
>> I just figured we're doing it.

4583
03:18:20,720 --> 03:18:22,399
>> Okay. that she had to do. That's

4584
03:18:22,399 --> 03:18:26,630
>> if you have the word in.

4585
03:18:26,640 --> 03:18:29,840
» Uh she's still looking. Um can we just

4586
03:18:29,840 --> 03:18:31,279
make sure So as part of this, we're

4587
03:18:31,279 --> 03:18:33,680
changing our meeting time to 6 p.m.

4588
03:18:33,680 --> 03:18:35,680
>> Can we please make sure that that gets

4589
03:18:35,680 --> 03:18:38,160
updated every place the public might

4590
03:18:38,160 --> 03:18:43,030
look or where our meetings are?

4591
03:18:43,040 --> 03:18:43,920
do [clears throat]

4592
03:18:43,920 --> 03:18:45,760
meetings

4593
03:18:45,760 --> 03:18:49,760
if they are if if they become SRO

4594
03:18:49,760 --> 03:18:51,680
>> we can maybe charge a fee raise a little

4595
03:18:51,680 --> 03:18:52,319
revenue that

4596
03:18:52,319 --> 03:18:54,080
>> I love that

4597
03:18:54,080 --> 03:18:56,080
>> um

4598
03:18:56,080 --> 03:18:59,200
come early get a parking spot you'll let

4599
03:18:59,200 --> 03:19:01,279
us know madam city attorney when we

4600
03:19:01,279 --> 03:19:02,880
could proceed with this motion

4601
03:19:02,880 --> 03:19:06,080
>> so um this would be my suggestion so in

4602
03:19:06,080 --> 03:19:12,630
section

4603
03:19:12,640 --> 03:19:16,479
three, which I apologize, it's page six

4604
03:19:16,479 --> 03:19:19,040
of the staff report. I I see each

4605
03:19:19,040 --> 03:19:20,560
separate item. I don't have one giant,

4606
03:19:20,560 --> 03:19:22,160
so I'm happy to, so I don't know what

4607
03:19:22,160 --> 03:19:26,319
page it is. Um, but if we would add

4608
03:19:26,319 --> 03:19:32,309
language that

4609
03:19:32,319 --> 03:19:34,880
um, sorry, I'm sure

4610
03:19:34,880 --> 03:19:37,040
>> why don't we just give the concept in

4611
03:19:37,040 --> 03:19:41,359
the motion and and then as uh put forth

4612
03:19:41,359 --> 03:19:44,720
by the city attorney if you are with

4613
03:19:44,720 --> 03:19:44,960
that.

4614
03:19:44,960 --> 03:19:46,000
>> Yeah, that would be fine. So we would

4615
03:19:46,000 --> 03:19:47,439
change it in two places that we would

4616
03:19:47,439 --> 03:19:52,239
reference the time limit um under

4617
03:19:52,239 --> 03:19:54,080
this is just for oral communications

4618
03:19:54,080 --> 03:19:54,960
correct?

4619
03:19:54,960 --> 03:19:55,279
>> Yes.

4620
03:19:55,279 --> 03:19:57,439
>> Okay. So we would address it by that

4621
03:19:57,439 --> 03:19:59,520
where it would be 30. It gives me 30

4622
03:19:59,520 --> 03:20:00,319
minutes.

4623
03:20:00,319 --> 03:20:01,439
>> 30 minutes.

4624
03:20:01,439 --> 03:20:03,840
>> Oh that's agreeable there. We did make

4625
03:20:03,840 --> 03:20:08,800
>> so 30 minutes um for oral communications

4626
03:20:08,800 --> 03:20:14,550
as item

4627
03:20:14,560 --> 03:20:20,560
new H we changed G um in section A9. And

4628
03:20:20,560 --> 03:20:28,070
then in addition, we would add to that

4629
03:20:28,080 --> 03:20:30,560
where would you put it at the end after

4630
03:20:30,560 --> 03:20:33,200
future agenda items?

4631
03:20:33,200 --> 03:20:36,160
>> I mean the the oral communications.

4632
03:20:36,160 --> 03:20:37,600
>> Yeah. So we could do 30 minutes and then

4633
03:20:37,600 --> 03:20:40,160
if we happen to have more than that at

4634
03:20:40,160 --> 03:20:43,279
the end of the items before we get into

4635
03:20:43,279 --> 03:20:46,239
well council member comments because

4636
03:20:46,239 --> 03:20:48,960
we've already done reports before. will

4637
03:20:48,960 --> 03:20:51,680
be after the agenda before council

4638
03:20:51,680 --> 03:20:53,680
member comments and before the uh city

4639
03:20:53,680 --> 03:20:55,920
manager report. I think that's where we

4640
03:20:55,920 --> 03:20:58,080
put it.

4641
03:20:58,080 --> 03:20:59,600
>> Yeah, I was put

4642
03:20:59,600 --> 03:21:02,640
>> so the order right now is council member

4643
03:21:02,640 --> 03:21:05,040
comments, city manager report, future

4644
03:21:05,040 --> 03:21:07,520
agenda items and then adjournment. So

4645
03:21:07,520 --> 03:21:09,840
you could do if you want to do it at the

4646
03:21:09,840 --> 03:21:11,840
very end it would be after future agenda

4647
03:21:11,840 --> 03:21:12,160
item.

4648
03:21:12,160 --> 03:21:13,760
>> Maybe before future agenda item.

4649
03:21:13,760 --> 03:21:15,200
>> Okay. after the city manager report.

4650
03:21:15,200 --> 03:21:17,920
>> After the city manager report, I I

4651
03:21:17,920 --> 03:21:20,399
accept that. We have a motion, a second,

4652
03:21:20,399 --> 03:21:22,319
roll call. Sorry.

4653
03:21:22,319 --> 03:21:24,239
>> I just make sure I understand what we're

4654
03:21:24,239 --> 03:21:26,239
talking about here. So, we have an item

4655
03:21:26,239 --> 03:21:27,760
on the agenda and there are so many

4656
03:21:27,760 --> 03:21:28,720
people that want to

4657
03:21:28,720 --> 03:21:31,120
>> No, this is oral communication that are

4658
03:21:31,120 --> 03:21:32,080
not on the agenda.

4659
03:21:32,080 --> 03:21:33,680
>> So, this is somebody in the beginning of

4660
03:21:33,680 --> 03:21:35,200
the meeting.

4661
03:21:35,200 --> 03:21:36,000
>> Yeah.

4662
03:21:36,000 --> 03:21:37,439
>> And each person still gets three

4663
03:21:37,439 --> 03:21:39,279
minutes. We have to have that many

4664
03:21:39,279 --> 03:21:40,080
people.

4665
03:21:40,080 --> 03:21:40,479
>> Okay.

4666
03:21:40,479 --> 03:21:44,880
But now with with 707 and people

4667
03:21:44,880 --> 03:21:46,960
are able to organize on social media,

4668
03:21:46,960 --> 03:21:49,200
there have been more and more instances

4669
03:21:49,200 --> 03:21:52,800
of just having these ridiculously long

4670
03:21:52,800 --> 03:21:53,840
oral communication [clears throat]

4671
03:21:53,840 --> 03:21:56,800
sessions. And so if we ever needed it,

4672
03:21:56,800 --> 03:22:00,080
we could say our our period for oral

4673
03:22:00,080 --> 03:22:02,800
communications is over and it will

4674
03:22:02,800 --> 03:22:04,080
continue at the end of

4675
03:22:04,080 --> 03:22:05,840
>> It's like a parachute on an airplane

4676
03:22:05,840 --> 03:22:07,200
that you hope you don't have to use.

4677
03:22:07,200 --> 03:22:09,680
>> Exactly. Uh, madam, city attorney, I

4678
03:22:09,680 --> 03:22:11,359
assume a roll call vote on this.

4679
03:22:11,359 --> 03:22:14,640
>> Yes, please. So, be the resolution as

4680
03:22:14,640 --> 03:22:17,680
amended to include

4681
03:22:17,680 --> 03:22:19,439
the changes we've discussed this

4682
03:22:19,439 --> 03:22:20,564
evening.

4683
03:22:20,564 --> 03:22:22,160
>> [clears throat]

4684
03:22:22,160 --> 03:22:25,680
>> I got one more thing.

4685
03:22:25,680 --> 03:22:28,640
We we seem to have gotten out of using

4686
03:22:28,640 --> 03:22:32,800
speaker cards and I think that is

4687
03:22:32,800 --> 03:22:35,359
kind of made some of our larger meetings

4688
03:22:35,359 --> 03:22:37,680
a little bit awkward to just say next

4689
03:22:37,680 --> 03:22:39,439
person come on up you know.

4690
03:22:39,439 --> 03:22:41,760
>> So we can no longer require people to

4691
03:22:41,760 --> 03:22:44,239
give their name. We can ask but they

4692
03:22:44,239 --> 03:22:46,080
don't have to.

4693
03:22:46,080 --> 03:22:47,760
>> Yes.

4694
03:22:47,760 --> 03:22:50,479
But if we can we require them to give a

4695
03:22:50,479 --> 03:22:53,439
speaker card and just put Joe on it.

4696
03:22:53,439 --> 03:22:54,880
I'll say Joe, come on up.

4697
03:22:54,880 --> 03:22:56,479
>> They can just give you a blank speaker

4698
03:22:56,479 --> 03:22:59,760
card. There's no your name at all or

4699
03:22:59,760 --> 03:23:00,880
>> Okay. It was just something I was

4700
03:23:00,880 --> 03:23:01,520
thinking about.

4701
03:23:01,520 --> 03:23:02,880
>> Number them. You number them.

4702
03:23:02,880 --> 03:23:06,000
>> Yeah, you can number them. Again, I just

4703
03:23:06,000 --> 03:23:09,120
brought it up because we we

4704
03:23:09,120 --> 03:23:10,640
>> it was actually and I'm just going to

4705
03:23:10,640 --> 03:23:13,279
say why probably shouldn't do this, but

4706
03:23:13,279 --> 03:23:16,800
it gives the mayor a chance to maybe run

4707
03:23:16,800 --> 03:23:19,600
a very contentious agenda item a little

4708
03:23:19,600 --> 03:23:22,239
bit more effectively. You know, if he if

4709
03:23:22,239 --> 03:23:25,040
he sees when they say they are yay or is

4710
03:23:25,040 --> 03:23:27,200
that what you're saying?

4711
03:23:27,200 --> 03:23:28,880
>> I'm not saying that any of us have ever

4712
03:23:28,880 --> 03:23:30,399
done that.

4713
03:23:30,399 --> 03:23:33,040
>> I I don't have strong feelings. So u

4714
03:23:33,040 --> 03:23:34,800
just informally given that it's almost

4715
03:23:34,800 --> 03:23:36,319
10:30

4716
03:23:36,319 --> 03:23:38,239
would people like to

4717
03:23:38,239 --> 03:23:40,560
>> but since since we can't require speaker

4718
03:23:40,560 --> 03:23:42,960
cards or it's more of a courtesy

4719
03:23:42,960 --> 03:23:44,640
>> I think yeah I think what we can do is

4720
03:23:44,640 --> 03:23:46,160
we can have that we don't need to put it

4721
03:23:46,160 --> 03:23:48,080
in the guidelines we can have them and

4722
03:23:48,080 --> 03:23:49,680
use them when we have meetings and if

4723
03:23:49,680 --> 03:23:50,800
someone doesn't want to fill it out they

4724
03:23:50,800 --> 03:23:52,080
don't have to

4725
03:23:52,080 --> 03:23:54,720
>> just start the meeting if you wish to

4726
03:23:54,720 --> 03:23:57,359
speak out of them you are encouraged

4727
03:23:57,359 --> 03:24:00,479
>> to fill out the card why do it that way

4728
03:24:00,479 --> 03:24:03,520
I'm now ready for the uh I think for the

4729
03:24:03,520 --> 03:24:04,800
roll call vote

4730
03:24:04,800 --> 03:24:07,279
>> I don't think we need to include that.

4731
03:24:07,279 --> 03:24:07,760
>> No, we're not.

4732
03:24:07,760 --> 03:24:11,040
>> No, I was kind of like this.

4733
03:24:11,040 --> 03:24:14,000
>> I can tell you for the rest of my I will

4734
03:24:14,000 --> 03:24:17,680
encourage people speak regards and

4735
03:24:17,680 --> 03:24:19,600
I won't be here next year but I'm sure

4736
03:24:19,600 --> 03:24:22,160
that

4737
03:24:22,160 --> 03:24:24,560
>> Oh, absolutely. because I don't want you

4738
03:24:24,560 --> 03:24:27,200
to deal with well I'm hoping if the

4739
03:24:27,200 --> 03:24:29,279
thing doesn't change I will be kindly

4740
03:24:29,279 --> 03:24:31,359
signatures for par

4741
03:24:31,359 --> 03:24:33,760
>> so just to clarify motion maker and the

4742
03:24:33,760 --> 03:24:35,680
amendment that you suggested was in

4743
03:24:35,680 --> 03:24:39,279
regards to the movement

4744
03:24:39,279 --> 03:24:41,840
other than that then is there a second

4745
03:24:41,840 --> 03:24:42,319
to that

4746
03:24:42,319 --> 03:24:44,640
>> so I'm seconding I'm I'm making

4747
03:24:44,640 --> 03:24:46,160
>> amended

4748
03:24:46,160 --> 03:24:47,600
>> amendment friendly amendment which I

4749
03:24:47,600 --> 03:24:50,160
accepted and now and I'm seconding that

4750
03:24:50,160 --> 03:24:52,960
now

4751
03:24:52,960 --> 03:24:54,239
council member

4752
03:24:54,239 --> 03:24:55,439
Yes.

4753
03:24:55,439 --> 03:24:57,120
>> Council member Ma.

4754
03:24:57,120 --> 03:24:58,160
>> Hi.

4755
03:24:58,160 --> 03:24:59,279
>> Council member Torren.

4756
03:24:59,279 --> 03:25:00,160
>> Yes.

4757
03:25:00,160 --> 03:25:01,520
>> Vice Mayor Shannon.

4758
03:25:01,520 --> 03:25:02,239
>> Yes.

4759
03:25:02,239 --> 03:25:03,520
>> Mayor Allen.

4760
03:25:03,520 --> 03:25:06,720
>> Yes. I should also say amend.

4761
03:25:06,720 --> 03:25:09,600
We are now going to go through uh

4762
03:25:09,600 --> 03:25:13,120
committee commission for its did we

4763
03:25:13,120 --> 03:25:15,840
>> and is it's 10:25.

4764
03:25:15,840 --> 03:25:17,439
Obviously I believe in the first

4765
03:25:17,439 --> 03:25:19,120
amendment but if people would like to be

4766
03:25:19,120 --> 03:25:21,680
brief that would be very

4767
03:25:21,680 --> 03:25:24,160
>> I'll be very brief. I attended the VTA

4768
03:25:24,160 --> 03:25:26,800
public policy committee meeting. There

4769
03:25:26,800 --> 03:25:29,840
were various action items bundling

4770
03:25:29,840 --> 03:25:32,720
various

4771
03:25:32,720 --> 03:25:36,160
VTA related uh project priorities. I can

4772
03:25:36,160 --> 03:25:38,960
give you I can send you uh those items

4773
03:25:38,960 --> 03:25:42,560
and the interest of time. Uh and the

4774
03:25:42,560 --> 03:25:46,000
legislative committee um

4775
03:25:46,000 --> 03:25:49,200
we had one, two, three, four, five, six

4776
03:25:49,200 --> 03:25:53,439
bills that we voted on. uh to approve uh

4777
03:25:53,439 --> 03:25:55,680
several yeses, several nos. Again, in

4778
03:25:55,680 --> 03:25:57,040
the interest of time, I could send that

4779
03:25:57,040 --> 03:25:59,760
to you in greater detail if you wish.

4780
03:25:59,760 --> 03:26:02,399
And then the city's association meeting

4781
03:26:02,399 --> 03:26:06,479
um we had um

4782
03:26:06,479 --> 03:26:08,720
I don't remember the agenda, but I can

4783
03:26:08,720 --> 03:26:10,319
send you the agenda and we'll share that

4784
03:26:10,319 --> 03:26:14,070
information with you.

4785
03:26:14,080 --> 03:26:15,200
understand.

4786
03:26:15,200 --> 03:26:18,160
>> Uh so last Wednesday I attended just the

4787
03:26:18,160 --> 03:26:20,479
monthly West Valley sanitation district

4788
03:26:20,479 --> 03:26:23,520
meeting and it was a pretty much a

4789
03:26:23,520 --> 03:26:25,279
general meeting like the others. There

4790
03:26:25,279 --> 03:26:27,520
was nothing particularly interesting to

4791
03:26:27,520 --> 03:26:29,760
report on. Um but the sanitation

4792
03:26:29,760 --> 03:26:31,760
district is doing well under it new

4793
03:26:31,760 --> 03:26:33,439
leadership.

4794
03:26:33,439 --> 03:26:36,800
>> Okay, great. We had a very good first

4795
03:26:36,800 --> 03:26:38,720
meeting for the youth commission and we

4796
03:26:38,720 --> 03:26:43,200
installed a a um our a chairperson and

4797
03:26:43,200 --> 03:26:46,319
vice chair and uh we discussed their

4798
03:26:46,319 --> 03:26:48,479
participation in the picnic and some

4799
03:26:48,479 --> 03:26:50,560
other activities we will do this year

4800
03:26:50,560 --> 03:26:52,880
and that's all I have to report today.

4801
03:26:52,880 --> 03:26:54,479
>> Council check.

4802
03:26:54,479 --> 03:26:57,600
>> Um Silicon Valley Clean Energy had a

4803
03:26:57,600 --> 03:27:00,319
meeting last week and I will attach to

4804
03:27:00,319 --> 03:27:03,040
the minutes a uh the speaking points

4805
03:27:03,040 --> 03:27:08,000
from that. um as I usually do. Um the

4806
03:27:08,000 --> 03:27:10,080
other commissions that I'm on are all

4807
03:27:10,080 --> 03:27:14,560
meeting uh in the next two weeks. So I

4808
03:27:14,560 --> 03:27:19,359
have have more to to discuss. I will say

4809
03:27:19,359 --> 03:27:22,479
uh I I've got a comment a council member

4810
03:27:22,479 --> 03:27:23,520
comment that I'd like to make.

4811
03:27:23,520 --> 03:27:25,040
>> Well, I'm going to start with when

4812
03:27:25,040 --> 03:27:26,880
you're done with your reports. I'm going

4813
03:27:26,880 --> 03:27:29,040
to start with you with the comments.

4814
03:27:29,040 --> 03:27:32,640
>> Okay. Um, so I attended the Silicon

4815
03:27:32,640 --> 03:27:34,239
Valley

4816
03:27:34,239 --> 03:27:38,800
Climate Youth Action Summit last

4817
03:27:38,800 --> 03:27:42,000
Saturday morning and there were 75

4818
03:27:42,000 --> 03:27:45,600
electeds there with a keynote by um,

4819
03:27:45,600 --> 03:27:50,160
Senator Becker and Margaret Abakob was

4820
03:27:50,160 --> 03:27:53,200
there and other people were there. Um,

4821
03:27:53,200 --> 03:27:57,760
and there were 225 youth. Wow. and they

4822
03:27:57,760 --> 03:28:04,319
are very energized and excited. That's basically almost countywide and

4823
03:28:04,319 --> 03:28:07,439
lending in a little bit to uh San Monteo

4824
03:28:07,439 --> 03:28:11,680
County. Um so that was that was very

4825
03:28:11,680 --> 03:28:15,200
positive. Um, one of the things that I

4826
03:28:15,200 --> 03:28:18,239
also am involved with is West Valley

4827
03:28:18,239 --> 03:28:22,640
Solid Waste Management Authority. And

4828
03:28:22,640 --> 03:28:25,200
they and I'm not sure if anyone received

4829
03:28:25,200 --> 03:28:28,239
one of these on their on their

4830
03:28:28,239 --> 03:28:29,760
collection bin.

4831
03:28:29,760 --> 03:28:30,479
>> No, you did.

4832
03:28:30,479 --> 03:28:33,279
>> We did. And a sticker on my actual bin

4833
03:28:33,279 --> 03:28:35,840
says batteries go here.

4834
03:28:35,840 --> 03:28:41,279
So, so this is a pilot that we're doing

4835
03:28:41,279 --> 03:28:45,040
and they selected 600 homes in the city

4836
03:28:45,040 --> 03:28:47,439
of Monte Serino and that's the only

4837
03:28:47,439 --> 03:28:50,239
place in the four cities that they're

4838
03:28:50,239 --> 03:28:52,479
doing the pilot and if you could so up

4839
03:28:52,479 --> 03:28:54,800
here you can see the slides that were

4840
03:28:54,800 --> 03:28:57,200
prepared. So this is the objective of

4841
03:28:57,200 --> 03:29:00,000
the pilot and it's one single family

4842
03:29:00,000 --> 03:29:03,760
route for sorry 480 customers and

4843
03:29:03,760 --> 03:29:06,800
afterwards they're going to do an

4844
03:29:06,800 --> 03:29:09,520
evaluation to see if we move the needle.

4845
03:29:09,520 --> 03:29:11,920
So how many batteries are we talking

4846
03:29:11,920 --> 03:29:14,720
flashlight batteries or car batteries?

4847
03:29:14,720 --> 03:29:16,640
No, no, no. This is

4848
03:29:16,640 --> 03:29:17,359
>> your little

4849
03:29:17,359 --> 03:29:20,640
>> Oh, if at the Saratoga Library when I go

4850
03:29:20,640 --> 03:29:22,640
every week, there's a receptacle there

4851
03:29:22,640 --> 03:29:24,560
for

4852
03:29:24,560 --> 03:29:26,160
flashlight batteries, which I always

4853
03:29:26,160 --> 03:29:28,960
use. So, but this is different. Can you

4854
03:29:28,960 --> 03:29:31,040
go to the next slide, please? So, you

4855
03:29:31,040 --> 03:29:34,080
can see that the circulation calculation

4856
03:29:34,080 --> 03:29:36,800
of the baseline data is there. Then they

4857
03:29:36,800 --> 03:29:38,720
distributed the materials, which is

4858
03:29:38,720 --> 03:29:41,040
done, which is this. Then they're going

4859
03:29:41,040 --> 03:29:43,600
to do this postcard and then do a pilot

4860
03:29:43,600 --> 03:29:46,239
in or pilot completion and then they'll

4861
03:29:46,239 --> 03:29:48,080
measure against the baseline to see if

4862
03:29:48,080 --> 03:29:49,920
it moved the needle.

4863
03:29:49,920 --> 03:29:51,760
>> May I ask you a question? Absolutely.

4864
03:29:51,760 --> 03:29:53,840
Pilot project since I got one of these.

4865
03:29:53,840 --> 03:29:56,399
So I already have one of those bags, an

4866
03:29:56,399 --> 03:29:58,479
orange bag that we got when they came

4867
03:29:58,479 --> 03:29:59,840
and spoke to us.

4868
03:29:59,840 --> 03:30:01,600
>> Should I remove those batteries and put

4869
03:30:01,600 --> 03:30:02,880
it in the yellow bag? Does the yellow

4870
03:30:02,880 --> 03:30:03,439
bag

4871
03:30:03,439 --> 03:30:05,200
>> they should be the same bag?

4872
03:30:05,200 --> 03:30:06,239
>> Okay. So it doesn't matter if it's the

4873
03:30:06,239 --> 03:30:07,920
orange bag or the yellow bag. I put it

4874
03:30:07,920 --> 03:30:09,840
out there, they'll count it towards

4875
03:30:09,840 --> 03:30:10,319
this.

4876
03:30:10,319 --> 03:30:11,760
>> Oh, yeah.

4877
03:30:11,760 --> 03:30:13,200
>> Well, I've got a bags almost ready to

4878
03:30:13,200 --> 03:30:14,479
go, so I'll put it in.

4879
03:30:14,479 --> 03:30:16,319
>> So, so they're doing this to try to

4880
03:30:16,319 --> 03:30:18,800
measure participation in in this battery

4881
03:30:18,800 --> 03:30:20,800
program. Well, yeah. To see if they

4882
03:30:20,800 --> 03:30:23,359
should roll this program

4883
03:30:23,359 --> 03:30:27,279
to all of the all of the pickups that

4884
03:30:27,279 --> 03:30:29,680
they do. I thought I thought well as

4885
03:30:29,680 --> 03:30:31,760
council member Shannon said they've been

4886
03:30:31,760 --> 03:30:34,560
distributing the other bags for the last

4887
03:30:34,560 --> 03:30:36,160
this this

4888
03:30:36,160 --> 03:30:37,920
goes on your bin.

4889
03:30:37,920 --> 03:30:39,680
>> Yeah. The other one we were supposed to

4890
03:30:39,680 --> 03:30:42,239
No no no when they give it to you.

4891
03:30:42,239 --> 03:30:44,239
>> So it's like a new way to get the word

4892
03:30:44,239 --> 03:30:45,279
out. It sounds like

4893
03:30:45,279 --> 03:30:47,439
>> Go to the next slide please.

4894
03:30:47,439 --> 03:30:48,479
>> All right.

4895
03:30:48,479 --> 03:30:50,880
>> Here's So here on the left hand side you

4896
03:30:50,880 --> 03:30:53,359
see this side, right? Yeah.

4897
03:30:53,359 --> 03:30:55,760
>> And then on the other side it shows

4898
03:30:55,760 --> 03:30:58,160
where it

4899
03:30:58,160 --> 03:31:02,870
see

4900
03:31:02,880 --> 03:31:04,319
» they put it on my bin

4901
03:31:04,319 --> 03:31:06,160
>> on your bin. And then you see the two

4902
03:31:06,160 --> 03:31:07,600
pictures above. Those are in the

4903
03:31:07,600 --> 03:31:08,960
postcard.

4904
03:31:08,960 --> 03:31:11,120
>> So it's like, hey, this is what you have

4905
03:31:11,120 --> 03:31:12,880
to do. Here's where you put it. Put it

4906
03:31:12,880 --> 03:31:15,840
on the target. Okay. So, so they're

4907
03:31:15,840 --> 03:31:17,520
making it a little bit more obvious

4908
03:31:17,520 --> 03:31:20,319
because before they just would leave it

4909
03:31:20,319 --> 03:31:22,239
on on on top of the bin and it would

4910
03:31:22,239 --> 03:31:23,680
blow off or whatever.

4911
03:31:23,680 --> 03:31:25,359
>> That's why I always took mine to the

4912
03:31:25,359 --> 03:31:28,080
library because I knew when I put it in

4913
03:31:28,080 --> 03:31:30,479
the little slot there, it would

4914
03:31:30,479 --> 03:31:34,720
disappear or a driver would hurry

4915
03:31:34,720 --> 03:31:36,720
wouldn't see it and it would get tipped

4916
03:31:36,720 --> 03:31:38,640
off.

4917
03:31:38,640 --> 03:31:42,160
What? I I'm just I'm just trying to

4918
03:31:42,160 --> 03:31:44,720
answer the question that if you got it,

4919
03:31:44,720 --> 03:31:47,279
you're kind of like where did this thing

4920
03:31:47,279 --> 03:31:49,760
came out of the clear blue sky?

4921
03:31:49,760 --> 03:31:52,880
>> Was it was it distributed to just a few

4922
03:31:52,880 --> 03:31:54,479
neighborhoods in Mont

4923
03:31:54,479 --> 03:31:57,760
>> four on one collection route there's 480

4924
03:31:57,760 --> 03:32:00,160
homes in the city of Monero that they

4925
03:32:00,160 --> 03:32:02,560
went to. This is not outside of the city

4926
03:32:02,560 --> 03:32:04,000
of Monero.

4927
03:32:04,000 --> 03:32:06,640
>> So it's about a third of that. We have

4928
03:32:06,640 --> 03:32:09,200
1,200 plus homes. It's about a third of

4929
03:32:09,200 --> 03:32:11,279
the homes.

4930
03:32:11,279 --> 03:32:13,600
>> And but you never got one long and you

4931
03:32:13,600 --> 03:32:16,560
never got one. So you're in the 2/3 that

4932
03:32:16,560 --> 03:32:18,560
didn't get one. So we're

4933
03:32:18,560 --> 03:32:19,600
>> so special.

4934
03:32:19,600 --> 03:32:24,560
>> And what what I'd like to do um is uh

4935
03:32:24,560 --> 03:32:27,760
I'd like to do an eblast on the pilot so

4936
03:32:27,760 --> 03:32:29,680
that our residents understand what's

4937
03:32:29,680 --> 03:32:31,760
going on that they're part of the pilot.

4938
03:32:31,760 --> 03:32:34,640
And then after Can you go back one

4939
03:32:34,640 --> 03:32:37,359
slide? After

4940
03:32:37,359 --> 03:32:39,279
the pilot is complete and they know what

4941
03:32:39,279 --> 03:32:43,680
the metrics are, I would like um the uh

4942
03:32:43,680 --> 03:32:45,520
West Valley Solid Waste Management to do

4943
03:32:45,520 --> 03:32:47,279
a presentation on the results of the

4944
03:32:47,279 --> 03:32:49,200
pilot so we see, you know, did it move

4945
03:32:49,200 --> 03:32:52,720
the needle or not. Um

4946
03:32:52,720 --> 03:32:54,560
so

4947
03:32:54,560 --> 03:32:56,560
that's my that's that was my what I

4948
03:32:56,560 --> 03:32:57,840
wanted to make as council member

4949
03:32:57,840 --> 03:33:04,229
comments. So, thank you very

4950
03:33:04,239 --> 03:33:06,000
» I think Ken might comment on the same

4951
03:33:06,000 --> 03:33:07,520
thing, but I know Ken and I both

4952
03:33:07,520 --> 03:33:09,840
attended the wildfire safety town hall

4953
03:33:09,840 --> 03:33:12,080
meeting that was hosted by Sam Licaro,

4954
03:33:12,080 --> 03:33:14,720
Chuck Page, and Margaret Alvakakota. And

4955
03:33:14,720 --> 03:33:17,120
it was well attended and there was some

4956
03:33:17,120 --> 03:33:18,479
good information. Some of it was kind of

4957
03:33:18,479 --> 03:33:19,920
a repeat of what they've done for the

4958
03:33:19,920 --> 03:33:21,600
council members previously.

4959
03:33:21,600 --> 03:33:23,279
>> Um, but it was interesting to see what

4960
03:33:23,279 --> 03:33:25,520
questions and things the members of the

4961
03:33:25,520 --> 03:33:26,960
community had and I thought it was a

4962
03:33:26,960 --> 03:33:28,319
very good meeting. very well-run

4963
03:33:28,319 --> 03:33:28,960
meeting.

4964
03:33:28,960 --> 03:33:31,760
>> Yes. We also attended the

4965
03:33:31,760 --> 03:33:33,040
>> scouts Saturday.

4966
03:33:33,040 --> 03:33:36,319
>> Scouts and Yes.

4967
03:33:36,319 --> 03:33:38,960
>> It was vegetation was

4968
03:33:38,960 --> 03:33:41,840
>> Yes. Well, it it was

4969
03:33:41,840 --> 03:33:43,600
program for wooies

4970
03:33:43,600 --> 03:33:49,120
>> and uh council member and I attended uh

4971
03:33:49,120 --> 03:33:50,960
just it's sort of what you know learning

4972
03:33:50,960 --> 03:33:54,560
from what chick page said about the CRD

4973
03:33:54,560 --> 03:33:57,439
what they're doing uh because they you

4974
03:33:57,439 --> 03:34:00,239
know they have full-time employees

4975
03:34:00,239 --> 03:34:02,080
doing this. So yeah, we did that. I

4976
03:34:02,080 --> 03:34:05,040
think, you know, I think that, you know,

4977
03:34:05,040 --> 03:34:07,200
I I, you know, there's there's always

4978
03:34:07,200 --> 03:34:09,600
more that you can do, you know, in terms

4979
03:34:09,600 --> 03:34:12,239
of that, you know, evacuation, wildfire

4980
03:34:12,239 --> 03:34:13,840
preparation.

4981
03:34:13,840 --> 03:34:18,319
Uh but what I've seen in the last year

4982
03:34:18,319 --> 03:34:21,680
essentially maybe maybe even less is

4983
03:34:21,680 --> 03:34:26,880
just a lot of of town halls and a lot of

4984
03:34:26,880 --> 03:34:31,200
meetings about this very so it it shows

4985
03:34:31,200 --> 03:34:34,160
you how important how important this has

4986
03:34:34,160 --> 03:34:37,840
be become as an issue from for elected

4987
03:34:37,840 --> 03:34:39,680
official standpoint from jurisdiction

4988
03:34:39,680 --> 03:34:42,080
standpoint which is a really really good

4989
03:34:42,080 --> 03:34:44,080
thing. Now we want that to filter down

4990
03:34:44,080 --> 03:34:47,040
to people taking action for you know

4991
03:34:47,040 --> 03:34:48,960
their homes and you know preparing

4992
03:34:48,960 --> 03:34:55,279
themselves. Uh but I think it's a really good sign that we are thinking in

4993
03:34:55,279 --> 03:34:57,279
the in the right way. It's a very good

4994
03:34:57,279 --> 03:35:00,080
sign. Now the

4995
03:35:00,080 --> 03:35:03,600
no one should be surprised the uh Ken

4996
03:35:03,600 --> 03:35:06,399
and I were there with three other people

4997
03:35:06,399 --> 03:35:08,880
who goes to the Wednesday monthly

4998
03:35:08,880 --> 03:35:10,239
meetings that Ken and I have been going

4999
03:35:10,239 --> 03:35:13,120
to for a long time and other than that

5000
03:35:13,120 --> 03:35:15,040
there were maybe five or six people in

5001
03:35:15,040 --> 03:35:17,920
the room. So we're not the only ones

5002
03:35:17,920 --> 03:35:19,279
that are having problem getting

5003
03:35:19,279 --> 03:35:20,319
anything.

5004
03:35:20,319 --> 03:35:22,080
>> But that's just what that was really

5005
03:35:22,080 --> 03:35:23,840
focused. No, but they sent a letter. I

5006
03:35:23,840 --> 03:35:27,920
think this one's Scottish and if you

5007
03:35:27,920 --> 03:35:31,120
know Kevin me they they got fewer than

5008
03:35:31,120 --> 03:35:34,479
the people there. My one comment is uh

5009
03:35:34,479 --> 03:35:37,680
I'm looking forward to the picnic and I

5010
03:35:37,680 --> 03:35:40,640
think that uh because of the

5011
03:35:40,640 --> 03:35:44,160
observations of the soccer balls. We are

5012
03:35:44,160 --> 03:35:46,080
for the first time having a council

5013
03:35:46,080 --> 03:35:49,520
member table where our goal would be to

5014
03:35:49,520 --> 03:35:52,800
get people to sign up uh to be at

5015
03:35:52,800 --> 03:35:55,279
receive all of our email traffic and

5016
03:35:55,279 --> 03:35:57,840
also at the same time we could say is

5017
03:35:57,840 --> 03:35:59,439
there anything else you'd like to do to

5018
03:35:59,439 --> 03:36:04,160
be involved in the city because

5019
03:36:04,160 --> 03:36:06,960
I think each of us

5020
03:36:06,960 --> 03:36:08,720
not to work inventive but let's see who

5021
03:36:08,720 --> 03:36:11,279
can sign those people on the on the

5022
03:36:11,279 --> 03:36:15,359
email stuff and on add

5023
03:36:15,359 --> 03:36:15,760
one.

5024
03:36:15,760 --> 03:36:16,399
>> Absolutely.

5025
03:36:16,399 --> 03:36:19,680
>> Okay. I'm not sure if every and I um I

5026
03:36:19,680 --> 03:36:21,359
apologize for not bringing this up a

5027
03:36:21,359 --> 03:36:24,080
moment ago, but there's something that's

5028
03:36:24,080 --> 03:36:26,880
very controversial that's going around

5029
03:36:26,880 --> 03:36:29,600
right now, and it has to do with the ban

5030
03:36:29,600 --> 03:36:33,279
on the sale of natural gas hot water

5031
03:36:33,279 --> 03:36:35,439
heaters that Bay Area Air Quality

5032
03:36:35,439 --> 03:36:39,520
Management District is dealing with. And

5033
03:36:39,520 --> 03:36:43,359
there is a set information session for

5034
03:36:43,359 --> 03:36:45,760
elected officials that's going to be in

5035
03:36:45,760 --> 03:36:49,279
Sunnyvale at their uh council chambers.

5036
03:36:49,279 --> 03:36:52,479
And if I if I would give the details on

5037
03:36:52,479 --> 03:36:54,319
that

5038
03:36:54,319 --> 03:36:55,439
not a Brown Act problem

5039
03:36:55,439 --> 03:36:59,359
>> so that that Yes. But if I believe that

5040
03:36:59,359 --> 03:37:02,479
they would like to have the or other

5041
03:37:02,479 --> 03:37:04,479
people that are sitting here attend that

5042
03:37:04,479 --> 03:37:05,120
meeting.

5043
03:37:05,120 --> 03:37:06,720
>> Why don't you have the city clerk? Yes.

5044
03:37:06,720 --> 03:37:08,000
So we don't have a brown act thing send

5045
03:37:08,000 --> 03:37:08,640
it out to us.

5046
03:37:08,640 --> 03:37:10,640
>> But we are I'm signed up. You're signed

5047
03:37:10,640 --> 03:37:10,880
up.

5048
03:37:10,880 --> 03:37:12,399
>> Oh, you and I. Oh,

5049
03:37:12,399 --> 03:37:13,760
>> we're car pooling.

5050
03:37:13,760 --> 03:37:16,160
>> Oh yeah. The favorite vice are

5051
03:37:16,160 --> 03:37:17,439
carpooling for that.

5052
03:37:17,439 --> 03:37:19,040
>> Which is which is this Monday?

5053
03:37:19,040 --> 03:37:22,239
>> It's Monday quality. [clears throat]

5054
03:37:22,239 --> 03:37:24,080
>> Yeah. This is another thing. I think we

5055
03:37:24,080 --> 03:37:26,720
got the thing from Gina Wio, right?

5056
03:37:26,720 --> 03:37:28,000
>> Yeah. [clears throat] Yeah. Yeah.

5057
03:37:28,000 --> 03:37:30,560
>> Oh, that's because you're on the um

5058
03:37:30,560 --> 03:37:32,640
>> Yeah. So we're

5059
03:37:32,640 --> 03:37:35,359
>> associations. At least two of four I can

5060
03:37:35,359 --> 03:37:38,800
tell you are going right. Um

5061
03:37:38,800 --> 03:37:39,920
>> three.

5062
03:37:39,920 --> 03:37:45,590
>> Yeah. Okay. Well, um

5063
03:37:45,600 --> 03:37:48,560
if people if if everybody has commented

5064
03:37:48,560 --> 03:37:50,000
to what they want to comment, I will now

5065
03:37:50,000 --> 03:37:52,960
ask the city manager for her hopefully

5066
03:37:52,960 --> 03:37:55,040
very brief

5067
03:37:55,040 --> 03:37:58,479
u report.

5068
03:37:58,479 --> 03:38:01,359
Um so I just wanted to let the council

5069
03:38:01,359 --> 03:38:04,720
know that um we are expecting about 340

5070
03:38:04,720 --> 03:38:08,479
residents at the on Sunday. And then um

5071
03:38:08,479 --> 03:38:10,479
in addition sorry in addition to that

5072
03:38:10,479 --> 03:38:12,880
would be also the different service

5073
03:38:12,880 --> 03:38:15,760
providers um that will be in attendance

5074
03:38:15,760 --> 03:38:18,239
also. So total of over 400 people

5075
03:38:18,239 --> 03:38:18,880
>> really

5076
03:38:18,880 --> 03:38:21,200
>> which I think might be the highest

5077
03:38:21,200 --> 03:38:22,479
attendance that

5078
03:38:22,479 --> 03:38:25,520
>> Why do you think that's the case?

5079
03:38:25,520 --> 03:38:27,520
Um, I would guess similar to to what

5080
03:38:27,520 --> 03:38:29,680
council member Craig said earlier is,

5081
03:38:29,680 --> 03:38:31,200
you know, each year more and more people

5082
03:38:31,200 --> 03:38:32,399
hear about it

5083
03:38:32,399 --> 03:38:34,640
>> and more and more people get involved in

5084
03:38:34,640 --> 03:38:36,239
kind of, you know, those types of

5085
03:38:36,239 --> 03:38:39,920
routine um, annual events [snorts]

5086
03:38:39,920 --> 03:38:41,439
>> and

5087
03:38:41,439 --> 03:38:45,200
I think people once they come to it,

5088
03:38:45,200 --> 03:38:48,399
they repeat. They come, it's very

5089
03:38:48,399 --> 03:38:50,640
congenial, it's lowkey, it's in a

5090
03:38:50,640 --> 03:38:54,720
wonderful venue. The parking is right

5091
03:38:54,720 --> 03:38:57,200
there and no one complains about what

5092
03:38:57,200 --> 03:38:59,120
the six bucks or whatever it is to park

5093
03:38:59,120 --> 03:39:03,840
your car. Uh the food's very good and uh

5094
03:39:03,840 --> 03:39:05,920
we have a proud tradition of the mayor

5095
03:39:05,920 --> 03:39:08,160
not giving a long speech, actually not

5096
03:39:08,160 --> 03:39:10,880
giving any speech at all, which is

5097
03:39:10,880 --> 03:39:13,840
probably one of the major draws last. I

5098
03:39:13,840 --> 03:39:17,760
mean, I'll keep that in mind. Um

5099
03:39:17,760 --> 03:39:22,800
the um future agenda items match.

5100
03:39:22,800 --> 03:39:25,840
>> Um no, but if I come up with some I will

5101
03:39:25,840 --> 03:39:27,520
actually we talked about

5102
03:39:27,520 --> 03:39:29,520
>> Yeah, the putting the

5103
03:39:29,520 --> 03:39:30,160
>> Yes, we did.

5104
03:39:30,160 --> 03:39:31,520
>> all of Highway 9.

5105
03:39:31,520 --> 03:39:33,920
>> I would think we want that on Do we have

5106
03:39:33,920 --> 03:39:36,800
room on the September one agenda? Then

5107
03:39:36,800 --> 03:39:38,080
why don't we say we'll put it on the

5108
03:39:38,080 --> 03:39:40,399
September agenda?

5109
03:39:40,399 --> 03:39:43,359
Uh any colleagues? Any other future

5110
03:39:43,359 --> 03:39:47,439
agenda items? If not at 10:40,

5111
03:39:47,439 --> 03:39:49,520
uh, this may be the record for this

5112
03:39:49,520 --> 03:39:53,720
thing. We are adjourned.