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this person walk up here first.

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Let's call the meeting to order. It's 6.43. Let me read the land

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acknowledgment. We would like to acknowledge that the land we inhibit today was once known

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as the Talvin Guard, the home of the Gabelino-Tangua people. We show respect to the Gabelino-Tangua

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people as well as to all indigenous people, past, present, and future, and honor their labor

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as original caretakers of the sland.

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We commit to uplifting the Gabbling Hill town for people,

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invite you to acknowledge the history

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and join us in training for the sland.

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Please join me for the flexible, please stand.

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You're able to face the flag, put your right hand over your heart.

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Ready,

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thank you, you may see it.

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Madam Clerk, roll call please.

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Council Member Wong.

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Present.

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Council Member Sanchez.

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Councilmember Low.

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Mayor Pro Temyang.

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Present.

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Mayor Goh.

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Present.

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And we have a form.

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agenda additions,

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the leashes and changes in adoptions.

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None.

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Okay.

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Okay, let's go with public communications.

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First speakers, Bob Jin and Carol Sullivan.

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Mayor Goll, city council, city manager.

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We're here on behalf of the Modern Part Library Foundation, and we just wanted to share with you, the city council and the city about our gala that's coming up in October 10th at Luminars. So we hope that everybody will join us. This will probably put us over the top to get that to purchase the

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the book mobile. So we're really excited this year for this year's data. And the theme of this is

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Aloha Blossom. So, you know, you're coming to your best Hawaiian shirt or dress and we're

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just going to have a good time like we did last year. We won't be hitting it out of the ballpark

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this this time though, but we will. It's let Aloha Blossom and we're honoring the Cherry Blossom

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committee, because they bring so much to our city.

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Their vent is one of the biggest set draws people from all over.

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So we want to honor them and we're honoring our prior mayor,

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City Council, Peter Chan, who has stayed active in the city.

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And he does bring every year to the library, Gala, at least four tables.

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And he has continued over the years.

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So we want to honor him and thank him for his service to the city.

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And you can either wear a lot of shirts or kimonos or happy coats whatever whichever whichever way you want to go.

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So we hope you all be there to enjoy and we'll have a little entertainment.

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But like I said, we won't be hitting it out of the ballpark this year.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker, Andrea Zung.

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Well, before we go to the next speaker, I just want to say last year it was right in the middle of the Dodgers playoff

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We're before the meat before the gala ended

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33 men hit that Grand Slam walkoff

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Yeah, the place went crazy because of that. Thank you. Oh,

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Soon mayor and city council members. My name is Andrea Zang. I'm an incoming senior at Mark Keppell High School and a co-hurt member of

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Mike Phong's 8049 Young Leaders Program.

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I'm here today to advocate for a left turn light

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at the intersection between Garvey Avenue

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and Alhambra Avenue.

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Every day on my way back from school,

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I have to wait for the green light to turn left

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while looking at incoming traffic.

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As a provisional driver,

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I've only had my license for three months.

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Turning left while waiting for incoming traffic

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can sometimes be extremely dangerous.

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For example, I was following a car that was turning left with me and a car was coming straight

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at me in the middle of the intersection.

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Many students from Mark Apple take the same route as me on their way home and have similar

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experience as well.

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As students, many of us are new drivers and the current intersection has a high risk for

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collisions.

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A single mistake could lead to possibly irreversible consequences.

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A study from Oregon State University states that older pedestrians are among the most

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likely to be killed in traffic accidents according to the National Safety Council.

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In the United States in 2020, there are 709 pedestrian fatalities in the 65 to 74 age

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group, 20% of total road user deaths in the age bracket.

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Monterrey Park's elderly population is around 22.5% of our total population.

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Our city has at least one resident hit and killed by a vehicle nearly every year.

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It's important to protect our elderly, especially the ones that often walk through our intersections

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to get groceries or to get to the park.

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Many studies show that left-turned-life significantly reduced collisions.

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One large-scale U.S. study by the United States Department of Transportation across four

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states found that implementing flashing yellow arrows leads to a 50% to 50% reduction

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in left-turn crashes.

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These improvements have shown to save lives, reduce injuries, and make intersection safer

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for everyone.

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From high schoolers, like me, to the elderly crossing to get groceries.

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And I sincerely hope that the City will act promptly to prevent future accidents and protect our community.

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Thank you.

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Actually, I believe you emailed some about, didn't you?

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I believe you emailed some of us about this issue.

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Are you the same person?

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Okay, because I did.

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I believe with you, whose email also we got.

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Have we, should this issue be looked up by either our Tribute Commission or the public works?

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especially given that she's brought it up.

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Yeah, so I think the property and thank you for bringing it up and say hi to the Assemblymember for us if you see the proper channel would be to kind of go through the traffic and then look at it, let the traffic commission take a look at it and get through some kind of a study and then this will come back up, but this is the start. Thank you for bringing that to attention.

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Next speaker, Alex Song.

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Thank you, City Council members, for having me on.

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My name is Alex Song, I'm a former captain, last year's captain.

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And I would like to, again, address the Barnes Park pool in these issues.

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And a lot of support that coming here for today for the Barnes Park pool.

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I would like to also just remind you guys how useful this swimming career has brought to.

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me in Mari Park, it helps me pay for schooling in my future four years at university.

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It employs me, the city pool here employs me, and we're missing a huge opportunity with the many future

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summaries and students that are going to be able to attend university because of swimming.

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And without the Barnes Park pool, we won't be able to do that.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker Dawn Rock.

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Good evening Mayor, City Council members and dedicated staff.

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On June 17th, Brandy Wheeler shared a message in the Monterrey Park Life Facebook group

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that was not only informative but deeply inspiring. Her words struck accord with me and I knew

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immediately they deserved to be heard beyond the screen. I reached out to her on June 23rd,

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hoping she would join us tonight to share her message in person. I haven't heard back yet,

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but I still wanted to honor her words and in the spirit in which they were written. Brandy Wheeler

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posted. In the view of Katie in the commentary on community, I thought perhaps some of you would

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appreciate this, Mrs. I just read from the power and community. I hope it lifts, informs, and inspires

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There are a few things more healing than being truly seen and heard.

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As a therapist, I witnessed that transformation, doesn't just come from within, it comes.

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It also blooms in the space between us, in relationships, in support groups, in families,

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in neighborhoods, and ultimately in communities.

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Market JV, there once said, there's no power for change greater than a community discovering

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what it cares about.

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This quote carries more than insight. It carries hope. It reminds us that change is not only possible but deeply powerful when it grows from the hearts of people who connected by something bigger than themselves.

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Many of the communities carry silent pain, unspoken grief, historic injustice, or lingering disconnection.

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Often these wounds go unattended not because people don't care, but because they've never

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been given a space to name what hurts or what matters.

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When a community creates room for real listening, things begin to shift.

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I've seen it happen in healing circles, in churches, in town hall meetings, and even in families

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around a kitchen table.

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When people are invited to name their truth without judgment, healing begins, and when

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people collectively say, we want something better, they begin to build it.

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If you're part of any group, whether it's a workplace, faith community, parent group,

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neighborhood association, or city council, I invite you to begin gently and asking together,

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What do you care about?

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What do we hope for each other?

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What breaks our hearts?

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What would it look like to care for one another intentionally?

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These are not easy questions, but they are loving ones.

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They open doors to new understanding, they help us slow down, listen deeply, and begin building

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something that reflects our shared humanity.

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Margaret Wheatley's words remind us that the real power of change comes not from

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top-down solutions but from within us together. When we uncover what we care

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about as a community, we begin to change not just systems but stories. We

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become builders of healing, tellers of truth, carriers of compassion.

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Thank you

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In the spirit of Wheatley's vision, where community is a catalyst for meaningful change,

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I'm proud to share that a group of Monterey Park residents have come together to form

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a non-profit organization called SGV Power Up Beacon.

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What united us was a shared urgency, the need to save the historic Barnes Park pool.

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Our mission is grounded in advocacy and action.

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We aim to, one, champion the development, improvement, and access to public facilities,

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two, promote equitable access to recreational, educational, and wellness resources,

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three, foster civic engagement and community volunteerism,

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four, strengthen the bonds that hold our neighborhoods together and

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five, collaborate with local governments, organizations, and residents to bring these goals to life.

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If you still move to be part of this work to help preserve a place where generations

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have gathered, grown, and thrived, please visit our Facebook page and our Work and Progress

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website, sgvpub.org to connect with us.

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Together we can protect more than our community and our pool.

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Together we can protect a legacy.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker is Arlene Rodriguez, who is yielding her time to Cindy Yee.

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Cindy, next speaker, seven minutes.

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Yeah, we,

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Mr. Mayor and members of the City Council, I actually have another announcement

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from the library that I've been participating in from my lifelong idol, actress Nancy

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Kwan, who will be at our library on July 26, signing her book from memoir.

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And if you can't make it that day, you could buy tickets to the Los

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Feliz three theater July 31st and see a double header. The world is

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a Wang and Flower Drum song. And I told my son when he was in high

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school that he needed to see the movie and he really enjoyed it

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because Hong Kong does not look like it was back in the 60s where his

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His grandparents and both sides came to the land of the free, and he really loved the

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movie and the beautiful, beautiful scenery from that movie is deep picked throughout.

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Anyway, on to important issues.

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Since April 16, a handful of residents, primarily from the swimming community, have been steadily

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growing and meeting, while also attending every Senate Council meeting to pressure this Council to rebuild Barnes-Wing

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poll, speakers have touched upon the city's reputation as a mediocre one, to accusing the

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city council of neglecting the city's infrastructure, especially the historical Barnes poll and the

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a wasteful spending of $500,000 of taxpayer dollars by throwing dirt into the pool without a proper engineering report which further compromise the pool's integrity.

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Consent calendar item 9G tonight, the California Parks and Water Conservation Fund grant, as they start in the right direction, and according to the documentation is due on August 5th, a DA before the next City Council meeting.

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Our newly formed 501 organization would definitely like to be included and work with the city on the successful review process and any other recommendations on additions and corrections as a partner in achieving a successful solution.

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We humbly request that all failed grants and any other relevant items concerning the pool be submitted to ensure a successful ribbon cutting event in the near future.

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However, SGV-PUB would also like you to consider, consider,

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Consider other avenues of funding to match the 50% match if this federal grant on item 9G is received and approved. And in addition to that, that we have identified the following possible funding to include the swimming pool. California development block grant. The second one, donations received from

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my newly found SGV power up beacon.

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Three, Alhambra School District, which knows the importance of aquatic swimming programs

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for both Alhambra High and Mark Kepel High.

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Four, formal applications submitted to the state and or federal levels declaring Barnes

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Poole and Storks site of the summer 84 Olympics.

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The 10-page application is ready to be submitted.

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Five, collection of any outstanding leans that moderate park tax payers are hooding.

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Like the $17 million dollar wall on private property on Garvey Avenue, known as a good view property.

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Six, and the remaining balance of any, to be withdrawn from the General Funds,

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which was explained by two members of our team in late May that we really have funds

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and can participate after all outside avenues have been exhausted.

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The newest member of our team

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is a third generation resident of Monterey Park who resides directly above Barnes Park.

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She has an outstanding record of writing award-winning grants

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at both the state and federal levels, having secured a $54 million community grant in 2019

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and achieved funding for other aquatic centers in California, such as Gardina.

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She has also played a role in obtaining funds funding resources for the beautiful SoFi Stadium,

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and due to our accidental encounter at the doors of City Hall, exactly nine days ago,

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I would not have been aware of the Federal California Development Block Grant.

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Even with her busy schedule, she is willing to assist in our endeavors to rebuild Barnes Poo

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for the next generation of Monterey Park residents and neighbors.

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Lastly, our city should consider collecting taxes on the use of Airbnb rentals within

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our city.

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These Airbnb taxes should be used to maintain the barn swimming pool by designating a name

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like Preventative Maintenance Fund to cover the monthly quarterly and annual maintenance fees

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rather than letting it deteriorate as our city has over the years.

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We are all stakeholders and willing to work with the city to achieve and focus on the successful completion of Barnesville.

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It's up to you, the city council, the city manager, the city attorney, and your congressional rep,

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who endorsed all of you to make this dream a reality before she herself retires.

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Thank you for your time.

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Next speaker, Dave Jones.

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Mr. Mayor, council members, distinguished staff.

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I come here today to speak against the proposed increase in fees for trash pickup.

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Last year, the City of Monoray Park,

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last year, the City of Monoray Park moved to a direct billing service for trash pickup with the company where.

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Prior to that, for a three-unit property on Sept and Avenue, the city utility bill was $195.

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After that, the wear bill itself was $179 and the city bill was still $136 for a total of $316.

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The difference there is $121, which is 62%, so that means last year, our charges for city services already went up 62%.

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A four unit property on CFDIN went from $269 to $188 for city services and $239 for where, an increase of $159 or 59%.

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So again, pretty much across the board, we're looking at a 60% increase in services already last year, not even a full year from today.

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Now, we have received notice that the city wants to contract with where to increase the billing another 18%.

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saying that that's due to Senate Bill 1383 and that they're required to do a five-year contract with CPI increase.

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Well, the CPI is 2.7% right now.

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18% is not 2.7%.

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Now, if you want to say that that's for over five years, well guess what?

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Five times 2.7 isn't 18% either.

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the math ain't math and folks okay so I get it that costs go up I've been in the city

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of I've lived on Taylor Drive for 31 years I grew up in the city I lived in

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Newmark for another 14 years when I wasn't in Monterey Park I was just

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crossed a ten-free way in Ohamber this is the only place I've lived my entire life I

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worked in the city of Monterey Park for 20 years okay I don't mind I make

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more now than I made then. I'm glad that the people who are servicing us are going to make more

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of it. But they're not getting 18 percent. I'll do a little bit more math for you since I have

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some time. It takes less than a minute to pick up my trash cans. It takes less than a minute to

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pick up all three trash cans. Four times a week. That's four minutes.

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That's $900 an hour to service

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a property, $900 an hour. Now, you can say, oh, well, they've got a drive to and from,

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they've got to dispose of trash. But that's all collected. That's not going to take

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more than an aggregate of five minutes or so. These prices are outrageous. We pay them.

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I don't mind paying them. But when you say I've got to pay another 18% for no reason at all

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because the math ain't mathin'.

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I think that that's ridiculous.

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I encourage you to go back and look at this contract.

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I encourage you first to vote no.

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Thank you very much.

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Next.

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Mr. Mayor, just a really quick,

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procedural question on this.

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If there are comments on the item,

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the specific public hearing item,

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if they speak during public comment,

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are they still allowed to speak during the public comment?

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The public comment period for the public hearing item,

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or is that something we should reserve for?

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So, just to let people know, if you are here for the public hearing item on the trash

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fee item, that you should probably reserve that and make sure your request for public

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comment is for during the public hearing portion of the meeting for that item.

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Okay.

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So, he understands that.

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I think we have speakers in the item later, so okay.

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No, are you out of any more?

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Next speaker, John Lem, so as he noted, if you are going to speak on this item at this

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point, you will not be able to speak on this item during the item when it's heard.

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So would you like to speak now, still, or would you like to wait until later?

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John?

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So that's Mr. Lem.

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Okay.

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Next speaker is Amarani RC?

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Good evening, respective city manager, city mayor and council members, along with our city

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attorney and city clerk.

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And everybody else here, I am a resident of the city.

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I am a mother, along with paralegal and city attorney services.

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I understand the complexity of our city issues along with how important it is for

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a residence to come and speak up about our city issues.

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I am in support of our Barnes Park pool as a community member.

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We bring our children to different parks, we bring them to our pools.

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Our pool, our Barnes Park pool has been closed since 2021, it's been about four years.

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Our community needs that, our children needs that, it's important to exercise and to bring our children together.

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And without our pool, many of us parents, and I speak for myself, along with other parents.

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We all get together and bring our kids together.

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We have to drive out to other pools.

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Other pools along with George Elder is a little bit farther out, borderline to Montebello.

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So, another poll that we have to drive out to is Rosemead and Beldebeer in East LA.

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I believe that if we bring our pool here, we're able to make money by charging children

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and adults for entering.

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The Rosemead pool right now charges $2 for adult, $1 per child.

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We can do the same here and be able to have our pool in our state.

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It's very important. Please. Thank you. Thank you.

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Next speaker Vivian.

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Hi everyone. Thank you so much for being here tonight and

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Thank you for so many rescindances and coming here for I think the same reason

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I'm here to talk about the swimming pool. I

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Go up here and then my kids go up here from the school and they learn swim from the city pool

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and then they become part of the swimming team,

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and then get into all kinds of champions,

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and that helps them become to get into a good college.

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I think this is essential for the city

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to help their children in the future.

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And Montreal Park is one of the best cities to live.

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You know, so I think having a part here

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is essential for the residents and to help the city maintain that status too, you know.

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So, you know, so multiple city, I know the mayor has been doing a lot of work to help

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the city to do better. In the Costco area, I know there's a lot of the vendors, I mean,

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I think that helps the city generate a lot of profits.

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I don't understand why the city councils can we think about a way to either get some

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of the profit from the revenue and ask for donation and doing some kind of increase

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of the expense to help to build a swimming pool.

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I think the city residents will be happy to help.

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You know, so because I think not only building a regular pool,

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I would suggest to build a Olympic size swimming pool, too, if possible.

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Thank you.

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You know, I know, like, Cerrito City, and they have one of the best high school there.

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And then I think Monter, a part has a very good high school, too.

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to, Mark Apple is a fabulous, you know, they help my kids get into UCLA, get into medical

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school. So they are good schools,

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like you guys are young, you know, I'm glad we have

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so many young city councils here. So I think like for as a young generation, yeah, we have

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to think about our families, our neighborhoods. We need to help our children in the future.

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So what you're doing here is helping panning a pan with your vision to helping the city.

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So when you're sitting on that seat, you're not only thinking about one year, two years.

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We think about five years, ten years, or hundred years to pan for the city.

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So I hope we can count on you guys to do a good job, to protect our city, to protect our swimming pool.

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Not just fill it out with the soil, you know, so that's not right.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker and GQ.

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My name is Angie. I also live in Monterey Park since 1970, and I got to in 1984, Olympic, 44 years ago.

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And I'm excited for 2020, looking forward to that. Absolutely. Monterey Park has the significant of 11 freeway.

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It's already built in rich CD that has the ability to go everywhere within 25 minutes.

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So I'm hoping when we have a bigger vision besides the CD to be outstandingly globally stood

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up when Olympic guests come and visit us.

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I totally would support the nonprofit that's starting.

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And from my end, I run the nonprofit foundation hours.

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We already initially group that is going to be a welcome mobile team would drive people

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to the Olympic and place and drive them back to Monty Park to eat.

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So whoever liked to join the team, I'm in charge of the training.

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I'm an excellent driver because I drive 8 hours every day during my young years driving all this

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kids to swimming pool. I don't need to be asked. So, and I am hoping when a CD is so welcoming

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visitors whoever see us we ever a percent United State, we'd represent Monterey Park in the bigger

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a light and we will generate money coming in from all those well care for visitors and

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that would be part of the funding donated to build the international Olympic pool too.

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So this is on our table and I hope the City Manager will continue to connect us with the

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international group.

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker, Dylan Colosa.

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Good afternoon.

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Oh, it's just sort.

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Okay. Good afternoon.

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City Hall.

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I'm here today on behalf of this

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the pool.

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I'm an incoming senior for my

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people high school.

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And you're the couple's next swim

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captain at least one of five of them.

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And of course, I'll talk about two

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the pool today.

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So one thing that I've always kept in mind

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is the big little motto we have

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of above us, pride in the past, faith in the future,

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and you know, pride in the past.

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It's pretty self-explanatory, right?

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You take pride for what you've done in the past.

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All these talk about 1984 Olympics.

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I'm obviously not that old.

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I was never, I never even knew that we held

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Olympics until the last month.

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Born in 2008, you know, Gen Z's.

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But I like to say, right?

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We hosted Olympics or something like that,

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and Barnes Park was clearly somewhat involved in this and I think we have

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brought in this. We wouldn't be bearing dirt in it. Am I right guys? So and here's

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where you know the second part of this comes in faith in the future. We have

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so many people coming to these meetings bi-weekly every single day about the

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swimming pool about these other problems that we have right. I'm clearly

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extremely biased towards the swimming pool. I've been swimming for 11, 12 years

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of my life. I work for the park. I'm a lifeguard there. That's also an issue. But faith in the future,

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I'm a very simple guy. All this means to me is that there is faith about news for the pool,

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specifically Barnes or maybe a new pool in general, but preferably Barnes because there's a lot of

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people at work who tell me stories about how Barnes was just an amazing pool back then and how it brought

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in a lot more money than Elder does. Speaking of that, when we work recreational swimming and I work

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there. And I look at cashier, look at how much money we make at the end of the day. We're

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barely making above $100 or $200 on Saturdays. I don't know if you guys know this, but this

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is a massive issue because Saturdays are supposed to be our best days, especially in the middle

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of summer, right? Everybody's freed. There's a lot of people who want to come in, a lot of

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regulars I see. I'm friends with some of the regulars who've told me that before bonds was closed,

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they would go to that pool, right? It's just much bigger. It's bigger. The kitty pool was functional.

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Staff was just much great over there and, you know, just things in general. It was close to everything.

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My boss Scott tells me that before

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Barnes was closed and I was a student at Chaoxing

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summer school or after school program. They would cost their red army because there was a bunch of Chinese

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these little kids coming with red shirts and he told us that when week would come, they

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would make around $300 on a weekday, like a Monday.

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$300, I'm not too sure, but if my math is correct, $300 is a lot better than $100, especially

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on compared to Monday and Saturday.

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So I'd just like to bring that up.

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If you guys don't think that the pool is a good investment, which probably isn't, I know

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it does lose a lot of money.

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All I would like to say is that it would bring in a lot more money just due to the fact that Barnes Park pool is just much closer to everything.

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Like the Boys and Crulls Club from a month ago, right? They came up to Spoke saying, oh yeah, we want to have all these programs, which some of you guys supported, right?

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You guys want to talk about the program for Barnes Park? There you go. Boys and Girls Club has swimming program.

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A lot of other schools like my Chao Xing, right? They're looking for pool right now too. I don't think they have a pool right now.

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Now, Barnes Park was that pool for me.

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Every single Monday we would go and go and swim.

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One last thing I'd like to bring up is lessons.

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A lot of parents who go to lessons would just have some issues with how far it is.

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Although I'd say that it's not too far compared to Barnes, or at least not too far spaced out between each other.

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I'd like to say that there are some people who may or may not want to be interested in taking lessons for

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lessons, afternoon lessons, adult lessons especially. We're sharing a pool with our adult lessons

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with water aerobics which isn't a really big problem but I'd like to state that hey you know maybe

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we get these aerobics people who are doing restrictions in the water, get their own pool,

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get them a lot more space and we can have our adult lessons who are overcrowded, get their other

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pool at once or maybe possibly another pool right. That's about all, there's just one thing to keep

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in mind, pride in the past, faith in the future.

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I came to the student thing for my history class, and this was the first thing that I was

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told by a lot of the council members, pride in the past, faith in the future.

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I'm not seeing too much pride in the past, I'm kind of seeing faith in the future, and I'd

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really like to see more of everything.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Dylan.

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No other secrets.

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Okay.

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Staff communications.

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questions. No, okay. Presentation.

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My park community healing fund update.

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I hurt my knee,

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so I'm living around. Good evening, Mayor, Pro Tem, City Council members. This is Amy

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Leia. I'm the city treasurer, but I'm also the liaison for the community healing fund from

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on January 1st, 2023, Monty Park experienced one of the most tragic events we've ever seen.

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I can't believe it's been over two years if we think about it, it just felt like yesterday.

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Our group was, it came to be in efforts to help the community heal.

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So with community members, we were assigned with the funds that we had raised to distribute grants and funds to the community that needed a support.

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So we were able to do that, I'm happy to report that we've accomplished our mission and we have given out over $230,000.

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We've supported 48 individual grants for victims that were present at the shooting.

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We were also able to support 15 projects by community organizations, the BookMobile,

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the Boys and Girls Club, the Monty Park Fired Relief Fund, Belivist Elementary School,

446
00:54:17,730 --> 00:54:25,410
Asian Youth Group, Asian Youth Center, the Ramahambra and Monty Park Rotary Club,

447
00:54:27,790 --> 00:54:28,850
There are Picasso,

448
00:54:32,020 --> 00:54:36,320
the resiliency center, and the anti-Asian hate coalition.

449
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:43,260
So we are happy to let you know that we have accomplished the mission and have distributed

450
00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:43,740
all the funds.

451
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:46,200
Do you have any questions?

452
00:54:48,060 --> 00:54:53,700
So, my question was going to be how much funding remains, it sounds like we're at zero.

453
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:55,500
Almost zero.

454
00:54:55,580 --> 00:54:55,860
Very close.

455
00:54:55,900 --> 00:54:56,280
Almost zero.

456
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:01,600
And then is there any formal activity to close up the, are we, have we already stopped

457
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:02,700
taking donations or?

458
00:55:03,020 --> 00:55:07,360
Yeah, we've instructed California Community Foundation to close down the donation

459
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,040
fund site.

460
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:17,800
And if possible, maybe we can just do a final report on how the grants were, all the grants

461
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,980
that were made and the funds were expended and maybe that's something we can just post

462
00:55:20,980 --> 00:55:22,740
online on the web page for that.

463
00:55:22,740 --> 00:55:52,640
And just wanted to add my appreciation to you, Amy, and to the steering committee members for your multiple years long service in this effort and really appreciate a lot of the thoughtfulness and commitment that you and the other committee members have really just shown in helping to steer the committee and steer the effort in terms of helping the fundraise but also to support community groups that are doing this program and help with

464
00:55:52,640 --> 00:56:00,660
healing and re-establishing right hope and improving the community in the wake of the

465
00:56:00,660 --> 00:56:02,780
mass shooting at the start ballroom.

466
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:03,700
So I really appreciate that.

467
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:09,380
With S, maybe the city manager to schedule an appreciation session or certificate session

468
00:56:09,380 --> 00:56:15,280
for the steering committee members past and present to be recognized by the council at

469
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:15,680
some point.

470
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,300
I just want to thank the community at Monter Park and all the donors across the country.

471
00:56:20,300 --> 00:56:25,660
I'm not sure if you know, but we did get donations from all corners of the United States.

472
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:30,500
New York, Virginia, Texas, donations came from across the country.

473
00:56:30,660 --> 00:56:34,320
People were thinking about the victims here and our city, so thank you very much.

474
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:36,700
Mr. Mayor, yes.

475
00:56:37,020 --> 00:56:38,320
Again, thank you Amy for that report.

476
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:45,500
And I also want to just thank everyone in the community who came together to monitor part during our time of crisis.

477
00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:49,420
and for opening, not just the hearts, but the hearts as well.

478
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,440
And I remember, I know like some of us, like for our birthday, we had asked donations

479
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:01,900
to open healing fund and I was just impressed that people continue to give during that period

480
00:57:01,900 --> 00:57:07,420
and it just shows that when the community comes together that we are able to leverage resources

481
00:57:07,420 --> 00:57:12,500
and hopefully that is something that we can take with us in moving forward as a community.

482
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:19,840
Even two years after the shooting, we've gotten some checks as late as January of this year.

483
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:21,280
Okay.

484
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,980
Yeah, thank you Amy for leading these efforts and thanks to all the donors, everyone who

485
00:57:26,980 --> 00:57:28,440
contributed to the healing fund.

486
00:57:28,660 --> 00:57:31,780
I think a lot of the victims families really appreciated it.

487
00:57:32,420 --> 00:57:38,200
And we're looking forward to acknowledging everyone who contributed at a later time as well

488
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,580
as the memorial that's going to be built as well.

489
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,000
Thank you.

490
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:43,320
Again, Amy.

491
00:57:43,420 --> 00:57:47,900
Thank you for all your support and service during this 12-ing times in the last two-and-a-half

492
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:48,180
years.

493
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,280
I was actually a little hopeful that maybe we have some money there we can kind of push

494
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:59,140
it toward the big memorial that we're kind of helping design, the permanent memorial, but

495
00:57:59,900 --> 00:58:05,620
you may not be done yet because we're going to need you to go for the longer term fundraising

496
00:58:05,620 --> 00:58:10,780
It's a great angle of getting more money to help if we can create a longer lasting memorial for the city.

497
00:58:11,260 --> 00:58:11,520
So I'll do.

498
00:58:11,700 --> 00:58:11,960
Thank you.

499
00:58:12,220 --> 00:58:12,980
Mr. Mayor, real quick.

500
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:22,560
Well, thank you, but separate, but related item, if we can maybe schedule the resiliency center to come to an update as well at some point in a future council meeting.

501
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:34,300
It's also minor standing that they have not received federal reimbursement for their costs upfront of funding and putting up the resilience there the last two years or so.

502
00:58:34,300 --> 00:58:58,920
And maybe on the web page for the healing fund is that in sunsets, maybe we can include a link to contribute or support the Resiliency Center and their operations since they've been essentially absorbing those costs, which I think are over a million dollars a year, to provide mental health and other services for survivors and for those in the community that want to seek services.

503
00:58:59,740 --> 00:59:11,960
And there's less and less guarantee or less and less likelihood, I think, that they will recover those funds from the federal government at this point as we get further and further away from the incident.

504
00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:15,340
So maybe we can find a way to provide some support there.

505
00:59:16,460 --> 00:59:26,740
Mr. Mayor, members of the council, definitely, I could work back with Amy and ensure that we put together an article or information on our web page about how the dollars are spent.

506
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:32,160
I sat in with Amy on the few of the meetings right in the initiation stage, the oversight

507
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,500
committee, and I want to take a moment to just thank her for her volunteerism to this

508
00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:36,740
committee.

509
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,140
No, it wasn't an easy task.

510
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:43,600
And definitely understand that it was probably a longer commitment than maybe first anticipated.

511
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:48,960
So we appreciate you, Amy, but we'll definitely work back and we will also schedule an update

512
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,120
from the CSC Resilience Center as well.

513
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,380
Thank you.

514
01:00:00,210 --> 01:00:14,390
Okay, consent items, consent agenda items. Any other items?

515
01:00:36,300 --> 01:00:50,820
I was just note, Mr. Mayor, if the remaining items on consent are moved for the minutes. The meeting of May 21st, I was not here. So if I can recuse myself on that specifically.

516
01:00:51,100 --> 01:01:01,440
And then on item 9H, my personal property is within 500 feet of the project proposed.

517
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:04,780
So if I will also note my recusal on 9H.

518
01:01:11,300 --> 01:01:14,000
So that's a motion from customer one to have a second.

519
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:14,820
Second.

520
01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:16,660
Second by Pro Temyang.

521
01:01:18,820 --> 01:01:20,680
Let's go ahead and take that vote.

522
01:01:23,610 --> 01:01:24,530
I approve unanimously.

523
01:01:25,170 --> 01:01:29,790
Okay. Now let's get to the part where everyone's waiting for

524
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,960
9G.

525
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:55,840
Good evening Mayor, Mayor Protzen, the City Council members, Robert Ageri, Director of Recreation Community Services, and to me tonight I also have Recreation Manager Kristina Allatory with me.

526
01:01:57,020 --> 01:02:06,660
Just to kind of update everyone, we're in our final phase of the Park System Master Plan process, and we'll be bringing that back to City Council in the very near future.

527
01:02:06,660 --> 01:02:15,900
One of the projects that's been identified throughout the process as a community priority has been the redevelopment of the Barnes Park swimming pool.

528
01:02:16,980 --> 01:02:31,100
The California State Parks, Land and Conservation Fund presents a unique opportunity for funding to apply for a grant to support new developments in new outdoor recreational spaces.

529
01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:35,980
is for the current funding cycle, there's $35 million that will be available.

530
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:42,680
And agencies are able to apply for up to $6 million with a 50% match.

531
01:02:43,820 --> 01:02:48,380
If awarded the $6 million, the city would be responsible for at least $3 million.

532
01:02:49,380 --> 01:02:55,200
And we understand that the pool project is estimated to be much more than the 9 million.

533
01:02:55,540 --> 01:02:58,760
So we would need to seek additional partnerships and

534
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,140
and funding sources to meet the rest of those project needs.

535
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:08,760
As part of the grant application for this grant, a resolution must be adopted by City Council,

536
01:03:09,540 --> 01:03:13,300
and the resolution authorizes City staff to apply for the grant.

537
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:19,400
And we anticipate hearing results from the grant committee sometime in the beginning of 2026.

538
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:26,080
So tonight's staff is recommending that City Council authorize staff by adopting a resolution,

539
01:03:26,580 --> 01:03:31,080
allowing us to apply for the land, water, and conservation fund grant.

540
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,080
I can please my staff report and I'm available for any questions.

541
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,980
Before I get to questions, I want to just reiterate, Dylan,

542
01:03:43,260 --> 01:03:48,120
I know you said you were not around in 1984, but I know for

543
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,460
fact that your mom was around during that time because we were running around in

544
01:03:51,460 --> 01:03:52,480
elementary school.

545
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:59,660
We do charge a fee for elder and barns when it was open

546
01:03:59,660 --> 01:04:04,960
And I just wanted to point that out because I think the last speaker before like three before you have mentioned

547
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:12,020
Should we should start charging just use of fees at the at the pool and we have I just wanted to point that out

548
01:04:12,020 --> 01:04:14,820
So I just want to point that out. Okay

549
01:04:17,660 --> 01:04:24,040
Questions comments actually can we open up to any public are there any item? Oh, I don't public comments or no comments

550
01:04:26,300 --> 01:04:30,860
Okay, well, I just want to note for this much since there are swimmers here as well

551
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:38,180
Right, I want to say personally, I think this council does want to see a pool happen.

552
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:39,840
It's just a matter of how it's going to happen.

553
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:47,320
I encourage folks as Robert noted, the park system master plan is coming to council next

554
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:47,640
month.

555
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:54,980
I believe there was a special session workshop for feedback, specifically for a pool around

556
01:04:54,980 --> 01:04:55,340
the pool.

557
01:04:55,540 --> 01:04:58,240
I know a few members in the audience were part of that session as well.

558
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:03,820
I appreciate and very much appreciate not only tonight but the continued and consistent

559
01:05:03,820 --> 01:05:08,700
engagement by many members of the audience tonight around this pool issue in particular.

560
01:05:09,500 --> 01:05:15,800
I know some of you are very frustrated with the pace and the timeline for action.

561
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:22,040
I want to say I think not just on this but a lot of things I think I and many others including

562
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:26,360
those on the council would love to see things move a lot faster than they actually happen.

563
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:33,380
But there is a certain process of doing things and there's a certain way to do things responsibly and as we've noted in the past

564
01:05:33,380 --> 01:05:38,860
Right, the pool is not the only public works and capital improvement project that the city has to

565
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:47,140
That is a need for this city and for those who are here at our previous meetings when we talked about the budget and the capital improvement plan

566
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,680
We've been looking at a number of

567
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:57,100
If big ticket items that the city needs to make investments on, not just the pool.

568
01:05:57,260 --> 01:06:01,480
It's a matter of how do we pay for all of these things and how do we prioritize what we

569
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,600
can do with limited resources now and into the future.

570
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:09,020
But I want to assure people that that doesn't mean because I've seen some information people

571
01:06:09,020 --> 01:06:15,380
posting out there about how this council is not committed to a pool, has said no to a pool,

572
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,100
is shutting down the pool.

573
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:22,260
I just want to be clear, Barnes Park pool has been closed for several years now, I think since 2021.

574
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,600
And so we have an existing pool at Elder that continues to operate.

575
01:06:27,780 --> 01:06:32,640
I know it's not ideal, I swim there, I'm a lap swimmer, they are on the weekends, I know it's not ideal personally.

576
01:06:34,060 --> 01:06:39,440
And I'll be frank too, Barnes Park was not an ideal pool either, it was not 25 yards by 50 meters.

577
01:06:40,420 --> 01:06:45,860
And so there's a lot that needs to happen, and a lot that we need to do, and I welcome, I very welcome.

578
01:06:45,860 --> 01:07:00,420
And I'm very encouraged by the level of engagement we've seen from the community around this there's still a lot more for us to do and I welcome the offers of assistance and help that have been made today and in past meetings as well.

579
01:07:00,700 --> 01:07:10,260
If there are community members that are interested in fundraising for rebuilding the pool, we will we're happy to work with you to see how we can help on the city side.

580
01:07:10,260 --> 01:07:15,240
any of these efforts, we're happy to work with anyone who's interested in donating any services for design.

581
01:07:15,900 --> 01:07:21,400
I believe we've reached out to one person that was already mentioned as a potential help on this effort.

582
01:07:21,940 --> 01:07:35,400
Anyone who's willing interested in helping on this, I think the City staff, the City Council, the City is happy to work with anyone and talk more in detail about what we can do together because we're going to need to work together to get this done.

583
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:41,880
And because even if we get this grant, which we'll see, but even if we get this grant,

584
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,140
there's a huge gap to make up in terms of the financing.

585
01:07:44,460 --> 01:07:48,960
And even if we got the money tomorrow, which we, right, we're honestly not going to get

586
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:54,720
tomorrow, it would still be many months at least of design to make sure we have the right design

587
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,280
working with many of you who are interested in the pool, the swimmers, the school people,

588
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:04,440
the manor raise and others who use the pool on what we actually want in the design of a pool.

589
01:08:06,620 --> 01:08:10,640
And breaking ground and construction is going to take more, it's not going to happen overnight.

590
01:08:11,140 --> 01:08:16,260
This is something that's at least a few years away even if we decided to do it tonight and had all the money.

591
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:22,980
So I just want to set the foundational kind of understanding there a little bit.

592
01:08:22,980 --> 01:08:28,940
I really appreciate everyone engaging in this process and I welcome and encourage you to continue to engage.

593
01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:30,680
There's a lot more discussion to have.

594
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:36,960
I hope you'll be here for Parks Master Plan as that draft plan is presented to the City Council in a few weeks

595
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:41,140
and encourage you to participate in that process and to work with us.

596
01:08:41,380 --> 01:08:48,220
If any of you are interested in supporting in other ways, the pool, we've got to work together to make this happen.

597
01:08:48,220 --> 01:09:03,360
And frankly, there's a lot of other things we would love to work with all of you on making sure the pool and other parks assets are invested in and maintained properly.

598
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:14,880
There's been some, I just want to note this really quickly, and this calls and it's not me if I need to be stopped, but there's been talk about historic destination for the pool.

599
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,220
I will just know in a quick question to the city manager.

600
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:23,400
We have currently at my understanding where we have one California,

601
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:28,600
National Historic Monument or designation in the city which is El Encanto, is that right?

602
01:09:29,260 --> 01:09:30,040
Yes, that's correct.

603
01:09:30,460 --> 01:09:35,920
How much funding do we receive from any outside funding source to maintain or improve that property?

604
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:41,040
The city does not receive any funding specifically for historical sites, so

605
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:47,360
So we don't get any funds from the state or federal government to support Alencanto as a historic landmark.

606
01:09:47,660 --> 01:09:51,320
Have we ever received any funding in the last 15-20 years?

607
01:09:52,380 --> 01:09:57,800
I believe that there was a grant, but that was for maintenance around the felonton, I believe?

608
01:09:58,140 --> 01:10:01,000
Yeah, that was to address the cascades and it wasn't for the historic.

609
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:05,840
It wasn't for Alencanto and it was not in relation to being a, it wasn't a historical grant.

610
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:11,020
It was just for the maintenance of the stairway and it was for the maintenance of the stairway.

611
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:21,480
Just because you declare something, a historic, give it historic designation doesn't mean money automatically flows in to maintain or restore or build something up.

612
01:10:22,580 --> 01:10:38,900
Other kind of fall on to that, do we, if, right, Ellen Conto, if things are declared a historic designation or given historic designation, that means there are even more restrictions in terms of if you want to rebuild it or make something better.

613
01:10:38,900 --> 01:10:40,760
or it's even harder to do it as a right?

614
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:42,280
That is correct.

615
01:10:42,740 --> 01:10:45,900
The point of that historical destination is for preservation.

616
01:10:46,460 --> 01:10:49,020
So definitely sourcing materials that were similar

617
01:10:49,020 --> 01:10:53,060
from the period, definitely it creates difficulties

618
01:10:53,060 --> 01:10:55,800
in maintaining a facility like Alancanto.

619
01:10:56,580 --> 01:10:56,780
Correct.

620
01:10:57,460 --> 01:10:59,540
Great, I see Carl's, I'm done with that one.

621
01:10:59,820 --> 01:11:01,820
Thanks, I see Carl about to step in,

622
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,060
but I just wanted to make that point.

623
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,020
But again, want to welcome those in this new nonprofit

624
01:11:07,020 --> 01:11:09,460
profit SGV power up beacon.

625
01:11:10,020 --> 01:11:11,860
If you're interested in helping to raise money,

626
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,000
the manor raise other folks who are interested

627
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,020
in doing this, we're gonna need that help if we move forward

628
01:11:18,020 --> 01:11:19,660
on this grant, and if we receive this grant

629
01:11:19,660 --> 01:11:23,200
or any other grant, it's very unlikely that we will receive

630
01:11:23,620 --> 01:11:26,880
a full allocation to build out the entire pool

631
01:11:27,420 --> 01:11:28,880
and complex that we need to do.

632
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:32,720
So there will be a gap no matter what.

633
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:34,760
And that was the same case for the library

634
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,740
when there was local matching funds

635
01:11:36,740 --> 01:11:41,340
that we had to fundraise, this community fundraise to meet the state grant that helped

636
01:11:41,340 --> 01:11:48,240
to rebuild the library across the street, very likely be a similar case here for the pool

637
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,260
at some point. So we're going to need all your help. I welcome all your help and I hope

638
01:11:52,260 --> 01:11:57,220
that you'll keep engaged as we move forward on this process, hopefully, and I hope they'll continue

639
01:11:57,220 --> 01:12:03,800
to show up. With that, I just say I support this item and let's apply for it if there are other

640
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:10,020
opportunities, other potential funding opportunities, I understand, Robert, you went to another grant

641
01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:12,000
opportunity for potential funding for parks.

642
01:12:12,300 --> 01:12:15,160
Yeah, there's another grant coming up in October that will be applying for as well.

643
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:20,980
So I just want to note for the audience, those who are here that we are actively looking at

644
01:12:20,980 --> 01:12:26,120
other, any kinds of funding opportunities, if they're, if you, if anyone, the audience sees

645
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,800
other funding opportunities that you think we may not be aware of, just forward them on.

646
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:43,020
And we will take a look at them and we do have grant writers on board as consultants for the city not only for this, but for everything that we're looking for grant money for to pursue opportunities like that for funding.

647
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:53,840
So we're constantly on look out, but if you think there's something else we should look at, send it our way, we're happy to take a look and we're happy to pursue that, but I'm in support of this and love to see us win this grant.

648
01:12:54,620 --> 01:13:02,040
Mr. Mayor, yes thank you Robert again, thank you so much for bringing us to staff, you know, again we appreciate this opportunity.

649
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:12,180
I do want to ask you if you could maybe walk through kind of, you know, the application process for this grant, you know, especially for information.

650
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:21,060
And also, I want to take the time to also thank our Assemblymember Mike Fong's office because, you know, when I started on the agenda, I reached out to his office and

651
01:13:21,060 --> 01:13:25,780
And there are also times to give us a contact at the State Parks Department.

652
01:13:25,940 --> 01:13:29,980
And I understand that you had a chance to speak to that person at the State Parks Department without correct?

653
01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:33,080
Yeah, I spoke with her in depth about the project.

654
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:37,240
Trying to understand if there's additional things that we can do to kind of strengthen our application,

655
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,200
understanding that we did apply for the same grant back in 2016.

656
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:47,720
I also wanted to see if having been that we've closed the poll since 2021,

657
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,820
and that the poll now has been backfilled.

658
01:13:51,260 --> 01:13:56,280
I wanted to see if it would qualify as a completely new build or if it would be considered

659
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:56,960
a renovation.

660
01:13:57,480 --> 01:14:02,660
Then for me it would still be considered a renovation, however we will still try to make

661
01:14:02,660 --> 01:14:05,660
a case that it is a new build since it's been closed so long.

662
01:14:06,980 --> 01:14:12,640
And then just chatting through also additional things to strengthen the application as far as

663
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:37,200
other outdoor amenities, unfortunately things with the facility don't qualify because it is, the grant is focused on outdoor recreation, so adding features to the building don't exactly strengthen application, but any facility that is supportive of the project does qualify, so locker room facility and the restrooms do qualify as part of the grant.

664
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:37,580
Yeah.

665
01:14:37,580 --> 01:14:44,100
And if I'm not mistaken, that current locker room, it's not, we would need some ADA upgrades

666
01:14:44,100 --> 01:14:44,720
to be done.

667
01:14:45,660 --> 01:14:45,780
Yeah.

668
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,460
And that would be a positive to the application, though, correct?

669
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:49,080
Yes.

670
01:14:49,260 --> 01:14:49,600
Absolutely.

671
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,580
And then we do, we would be serving a disadvantaged community.

672
01:14:53,780 --> 01:14:56,520
So we do have, they're definitely some, some pluses to our application.

673
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,940
So, in meeting with Townsend, you know, we definitely...

674
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,300
We're optimistic about our opportunity, and so we're going to do our best to score as high as we can. The application is due August the 5th, and so we'll be submitting that, probably to the deadline. And then, like I mentioned, again, the LA County has just released grand information for some grants that we'll be applying for in October. And those, I think the max on that is $4 million. Thank you.

675
01:15:31,140 --> 01:15:35,120
First of all, I wanted to thank all of the supporters of the Barnes Park pool for

676
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,220
consistently coming out to our City Council meetings.

677
01:15:38,780 --> 01:15:42,600
I think your commitment really shows a lot of support for a pool.

678
01:15:43,300 --> 01:15:47,980
And I myself am in support for adopting this resolution as well.

679
01:15:48,420 --> 01:15:58,080
I think it would be great for a city to apply for this land and water conservation fund grant as well as the October grant when it comes out and any other grants that we could possibly get to

680
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,420
to come up with the money for the pool.

681
01:16:01,220 --> 01:16:03,400
Peggy, backing on Councilmember Wands,

682
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,620
question about the historical designation.

683
01:16:06,260 --> 01:16:10,700
If we do get a historical designation on Barsburg pool,

684
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,000
does that mean we have to stick with the current design

685
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:19,300
or can we still make changes to the design?

686
01:16:19,480 --> 01:16:23,860
Because I know a lot of residents have voiced their ideas

687
01:16:23,860 --> 01:16:24,940
for different designs.

688
01:16:24,940 --> 01:16:32,620
I know the man-to-ray competitive swimmers want a competitive pool, Olympic size, which Elder Park doesn't have.

689
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:43,520
I know a lot of the younger, the families with younger children and the senior citizens, they want a warmer pool, whereas the competitive swimmers, they have to have a colder temperature pool.

690
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,700
And then also we heard some desire for a splash pad as well.

691
01:16:48,140 --> 01:16:52,660
So if we do a historical designation, we will still be able to entertain all of these requests.

692
01:16:52,660 --> 01:16:55,280
or will it have to stay exactly the same design?

693
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,720
Again, Mr. Mayor, members of the council, sorry,

694
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:05,120
we don't want to get too far off topic,

695
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,660
because we're on the grant topic, so I'll address quickly.

696
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:09,640
So the historical designation, again,

697
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,080
it's preservation of the historical site

698
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,420
to its original condition, right?

699
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,160
That's usually in general.

700
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,480
What the historical designation does is preservation,

701
01:17:21,900 --> 01:17:23,560
so hope that answers your question,

702
01:17:23,660 --> 01:17:25,480
but we don't want to get too far into it, yes.

703
01:17:27,940 --> 01:17:31,900
Okay, let me just kind of get some facts out since we're on this subject.

704
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,300
And these are all stuff that we've heard now since April.

705
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:41,620
This has been an issue since 2015, 2017, 2019.

706
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:42,540
Where's the pool?

707
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:43,660
Why didn't it get built?

708
01:17:44,340 --> 01:17:47,280
Again, that was way before this group here.

709
01:17:48,100 --> 01:17:51,180
And I want to thank the audience for coming out and speaking about this.

710
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:56,420
Because I was not here to listen to it in 15, 17, 19, no, 21.

711
01:17:56,420 --> 01:18:00,540
But I've been here since April, and we've done something about it.

712
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:08,960
We've got at least a couple of discussions moving forward, and that's where we have this item here for discussion.

713
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,980
And if I, I think we've been applying for this, right, Robert?

714
01:18:13,220 --> 01:18:16,100
In terms of the last few years, we've applied every time this has come up.

715
01:18:16,820 --> 01:18:21,740
The level we've applied for other grants, and the last time we applied for this grant was in 2016.

716
01:18:21,740 --> 01:18:29,400
We applied for different grants in 2019, which are actually a little bit less competitive for this type of project.

717
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,560
And then we applied in 2019, 2021.

718
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,760
We're waiting on the next cycle for that grant.

719
01:18:36,380 --> 01:18:38,520
Unfortunately, they haven't released that cycle yet.

720
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,980
But as soon as they do, best believe we'll be applying for that one as well.

721
01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:48,920
And then I heard a speaker mention about a couple of ideas, which I think are their ideas.

722
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,600
There are ideas, but let me just kind of give some background on this.

723
01:18:52,780 --> 01:18:59,920
The California Development Block Grant, or is it California, or is it community block

724
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:00,100
grant?

725
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:04,760
That's a federal grant based on what we know about what's going on with the federal government

726
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:05,780
and local cities.

727
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:07,880
Good luck applying.

728
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:13,040
But that's only a couple hundred thousand, so we'll even look into that, but I don't think

729
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,200
that's even a match here.

730
01:19:15,620 --> 01:19:21,960
AUSD, as I remember correctly, they pledged $100,000 back a few years ago.

731
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,420
Hopefully they'll keep that $100,000 to pledge.

732
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:30,020
But we're going to work with the school board members as well as the superintendent to say

733
01:19:30,020 --> 01:19:32,920
what more they can add to help us finance this pool.

734
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,100
I think we talked about general fund.

735
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,620
You know what, I look at the audience here, I'm thinking general fund.

736
01:19:43,650 --> 01:19:47,110
The next item that's going to come up, it's going to be about a $3.50

737
01:19:48,630 --> 01:19:58,970
call it tax or additional tax to the refuse fee and we're going to have that discussion.

738
01:20:00,130 --> 01:20:02,810
So, I don't know, we're going to get money out of the general fund.

739
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:09,490
Question will follow up separately, but looks like SGVPub is starting a fundraising.

740
01:20:09,490 --> 01:20:16,710
There was a Facebook page that started fundraising that's figured out we'll have a discussion figure out how much that money has been raised

741
01:20:16,710 --> 01:20:18,930
So we can kind of get this process going

742
01:20:20,430 --> 01:20:26,610
Yeah, yeah, absolutely I've I've already reached out to one of the members and looking forward to speaking with them and learning more

743
01:20:26,610 --> 01:20:32,430
About the organization and their goals and and how we work together again even if we get the six million

744
01:20:32,430 --> 01:20:36,170
We still have to come up with six million and then we have to fundraise

745
01:20:36,830 --> 01:20:48,150
My recollection of the pool cost is way more than the 12, probably way more than the 15, so there's gonna be a lot of work done here, which, you know, we're working on it.

746
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:55,450
We're glad you guys are here seeing late nights with us to figure it out, but whilst we're working on it during the day, that's staff time.

747
01:20:55,450 --> 01:20:58,510
So, actually, I have a point.

748
01:20:58,530 --> 01:20:58,930
One more comment.

749
01:20:59,210 --> 01:21:00,310
Regarding the application.

750
01:21:00,810 --> 01:21:04,990
So, given that, because we already have a poll elder park,

751
01:21:06,710 --> 01:21:10,530
how does that, I guess, influence impact the application?

752
01:21:11,490 --> 01:21:14,850
In other words, that's the state park would say, well, you already have a poll.

753
01:21:15,130 --> 01:21:16,090
I know again, so-

754
01:21:16,090 --> 01:21:18,090
So, one of the state parks, so I'm just going to vote with that.

755
01:21:18,090 --> 01:21:21,330
Yeah, so that's one of the questions I did ask because, you know,

756
01:21:21,410 --> 01:21:24,590
part of the application can sometimes be unmet need, but

757
01:21:24,590 --> 01:21:30,650
But I did explain, and what we will explain in the narrative is that George Alder pull is also in dire need.

758
01:21:30,930 --> 01:21:42,450
And so the essential, if we were to get this grant, we'd be looking at, by the time the Barnes Park pool was built, we would be closing George Alder pull.

759
01:21:42,830 --> 01:21:46,510
And so essentially the community would be left with one good pull.

760
01:21:47,130 --> 01:21:55,230
Okay, so we're basically utilizing our narrative to let them know that there's community is in need of one good pull.

761
01:21:55,250 --> 01:21:58,170
And that's something we have to include in the package that we submit.

762
01:21:58,870 --> 01:22:02,330
Yeah, that'll be included in the narrative to help us score higher as well.

763
01:22:02,670 --> 01:22:02,890
I see.

764
01:22:03,650 --> 01:22:10,310
And I'm curious again, we all know that this is a partial match, but I'm just curious.

765
01:22:12,110 --> 01:22:36,050
I don't know if we're still working on the application, but I really don't have a design yet, but nonetheless, I mean, I'm just curious, did they give any advice as far as, like, are they going to look at the over cost they, wow, that's a lot, or is there, do we need to also impact it in a way that also looks financially viable for, what does that also add points to the application?

766
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:41,350
The city does have to commit to basically funding the entire project.

767
01:22:41,630 --> 01:22:50,190
So outside of the 6 million, we're committing to being able to seek whatever funding needed to complete the project.

768
01:22:50,350 --> 01:22:55,750
But nonetheless, but do they require that we provide an estimate of what our project, okay?

769
01:22:55,890 --> 01:22:58,890
So we, yeah, in which we'll be over the requested amount, yes.

770
01:23:01,150 --> 01:23:11,190
Just really quick on the when would we hear back about the grant if we in terms of when the they say six six months from from August.

771
01:23:11,410 --> 01:23:22,970
So I I respectfully say early 2026 because if you are applied for a grant sometimes that pushes a little longer for review depending on how many applications they receive.

772
01:23:22,970 --> 01:23:27,930
So I would say we expect to hear sometime February March of next year.

773
01:23:31,930 --> 01:23:43,470
I have a question. I have a follow-up question. Again, so, this calendar, will we be in the application or will we be given up this?

774
01:23:43,530 --> 01:23:49,210
In other words, it's like, you know, it's month ones, received submitted, month two, under review.

775
01:23:49,450 --> 01:23:55,350
I'm just, is there a calendar? And the reason I ask is because I think it'd be helpful if we knew. And again, as I mentioned earlier,

776
01:23:55,350 --> 01:24:00,590
You know that I have you shut to our some member in state centers office and I feel like, you know, if there's any

777
01:24:01,210 --> 01:24:04,330
Time if perhaps we should in lesser aid to push it through

778
01:24:04,330 --> 01:24:10,110
You know, it will be helpful for us to know where they are where we are in the process in this application

779
01:24:10,110 --> 01:24:11,990
Yeah, I'll take I'll take a closer look

780
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:18,110
But I do recall from previous applications. There is some updates throughout the prior review process

781
01:24:18,110 --> 01:24:25,330
And so as it gets closer to the end if you are going to potentially be awarded and I say potentially because

782
01:24:25,330 --> 01:24:30,410
Because we've also had this happen where we had grant representatives come out to visit

783
01:24:30,410 --> 01:24:30,850
the site.

784
01:24:31,210 --> 01:24:31,270
Okay.

785
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:36,270
And so of course you start feeling very optimistic and kind of good about you think you're

786
01:24:36,270 --> 01:24:41,910
going to get there's a high potential you're going to get the grant and then you know, someone

787
01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:42,850
else gets it.

788
01:24:44,010 --> 01:24:50,230
So kind of curiosity, because this is moving from department city parks is the application process

789
01:24:50,230 --> 01:24:54,610
That's that online it's all yeah, it's all online I see yeah

790
01:24:55,750 --> 01:24:59,390
We when we get to the date where they're coming out to visit make sure you let us know

791
01:24:59,390 --> 01:25:02,490
We'll make sure we take them to the best in some in the in town

792
01:25:05,010 --> 01:25:08,810
I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve item 9G

793
01:25:08,810 --> 01:25:13,070
Did you did you really make the motion? I'll make the second okay, so

794
01:25:13,070 --> 01:25:19,090
Pro Temyang with the motion and second fly councilmember Wang

795
01:25:19,850 --> 01:25:20,850
Please take a vote.

796
01:25:23,350 --> 01:25:24,490
I approve unanimously.

797
01:25:25,210 --> 01:25:25,630
I'll just,

798
01:25:28,270 --> 01:25:36,010
I just thought there's a volunteer to drive the, the evaluators around as well, so I'm looking at the answer.

799
01:25:40,050 --> 01:25:42,270
All right, let's go up to public hearing.

800
01:25:43,930 --> 01:25:45,570
Do I open public hearing now?

801
01:25:49,940 --> 01:25:51,480
Yeah, I'm going to open up public hearing.

802
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:54,580
This is item 10a.

803
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:57,620
Do you have, we have speakers?

804
01:25:58,340 --> 01:25:59,500
Yes, we have speakers.

805
01:25:59,500 --> 01:26:01,560
first speaker, Vanessa Young.

806
01:26:03,980 --> 01:26:09,780
Hello, everybody. I'm so sorry my English is broken because

807
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:14,140
I still so surprised. Here we have folks quietly walk out, please, I mean there's still

808
01:26:14,140 --> 01:26:19,860
a count for me going on, please walk out quietly, please. I don't know, we take like 30 seconds

809
01:26:19,860 --> 01:26:25,920
and let people walk out before we start her time. I don't care, I have a sore throat.

810
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,380
No, we can't hear if there's a problem.

811
01:26:28,810 --> 01:26:31,040
Do we have folks walk out quietly please?

812
01:26:32,460 --> 01:26:38,800
I was so surprised because in the city, nobody

813
01:26:39,210 --> 01:26:45,020
knows Chinese in English, in Spanish.

814
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:47,980
Before I went to the Rosemite Hillary,

815
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:53,860
they have Vietnamese, Chinese, and Spanish.

816
01:26:53,860 --> 01:27:02,920
but yeah, today I'm very surprised. In our city suppose we have at least a half people

817
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:11,060
is Chinese. I think I don't check a record, yeah. Okay. I think 30% is finished, right?

818
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:21,180
Okay. My problem is, let me... My problem is, Monchipa is not the Inquist-Galach 3, but

819
01:27:21,180 --> 01:27:24,820
but the length of the maintenance and additional to many facilities.

820
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:34,860
First, they are not a pick up a pick up call, so instead of making new call.

821
01:27:35,340 --> 01:27:40,680
And they withdraw the tennis call to make the pick up call.

822
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:46,740
Second, the ride on the call are always dim, while Rosemite, Temple City, and

823
01:28:16,740 --> 01:28:24,120
day before they close at Friday, but right now they set the day, they only set the day and

824
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:31,040
Sunday no more. Okay, I don't know why because Saturday, Sunday is very important for our

825
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:38,440
family, but they close at Sunday. Yeah, okay. It's our city board that rules me,

826
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:45,000
and

827
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:52,420
business profit test goal. Beside the cost goal, we have a free hotel and a lot of restaurant

828
01:28:52,420 --> 01:28:59,920
and prosa. So, where's the money? We should... So, why should I pay the more for trust if our

829
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:11,140
facility costs less money compared to facility in our other city? Okay. So, I think we should

830
01:29:11,140 --> 01:29:20,600
We need to set up a resident council to care about our city because nobody to monitor our money, yeah, our city's money, yeah.

831
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:29,520
So, yeah, if somebody can maybe we need to make up, we need to set up a resident council to care about city.

832
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:30,280
Okay.

833
01:29:32,620 --> 01:29:38,380
Yeah. Okay. Let me ice. I think the Chinese is.

834
01:29:59,520 --> 01:29:59,600
Thank you very much.

835
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:17,580
此事你們幕後在經營,我們不知道的。所以,如果說你們沒有錢,那誰在說話?對,錢在錢去哪裡了?Costco,the test是多少?Costco, Home Depot,還有Hikata Center, something?

836
01:30:50,300 --> 01:30:51,720
about residential council

837
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:55,880
So it's the equivalent of community commission

838
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:59,800
We have 11 volunteer community commission within the city

839
01:31:00,900 --> 01:31:05,800
Robert or Soma, can you please identify her and talk to her, make her one our council volunteers

840
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,020
So you can help

841
01:31:07,580 --> 01:31:11,120
work with the city in terms of what needs to be planning and what needs to be done

842
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:15,200
Okay, sorry. That's the council is anyone to vote

843
01:31:16,580 --> 01:31:18,800
11 is volunteer is

844
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:49,120
不是 是不是

845
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:49,380
我們

846
01:31:49,380 --> 01:31:52,320
kind of question on process

847
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,260
Do we have interpreters available tonight?

848
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,200
The Request must be made in advance

849
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,220
There was no request made in advance

850
01:32:00,220 --> 01:32:04,400
in order for us to schedule and coordinate the translators

851
01:32:04,900 --> 01:32:08,360
Are there I mean just based off of our first speaker there

852
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,300
I don't know if there are any speakers

853
01:32:10,300 --> 01:32:12,160
that have put in requests to speak tonight

854
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,860
already on this item that would like to have

855
01:32:14,860 --> 01:32:16,260
or need interpreters

856
01:32:16,260 --> 01:32:17,920
I think that's something maybe we can use

857
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:18,480
Yes, there's one more

858
01:33:10,310 --> 01:33:14,770
我們有反應的,就是要早一點告訴我們,我們才可以準備好,

859
01:33:17,420 --> 01:33:20,560
我們不是每一次都有反應的,也不是每一次都有要求

860
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:21,000
OK,

861
01:33:34,620 --> 01:33:40,820
OK, we're going to go to the next speaker. We can do that on the side. Go to the next speaker.

862
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:47,440
Prior to that, I just wanted to inform you there was a request for the staff report prior to public comment.

863
01:33:47,620 --> 01:33:50,260
Can we do the staff report?

864
01:33:50,500 --> 01:33:52,860
Yeah, let's do the staff report first. And do we have any speakers?

865
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:55,040
11.

866
01:33:55,460 --> 01:33:58,940
11, OK, all right, let's do staff report first then.

867
01:33:58,940 --> 01:33:59,940
Good

868
01:34:03,330 --> 01:34:06,050
evening, Mayor Mayor Pro-Tam and members of the City Council,

869
01:34:06,390 --> 01:34:08,230
Sochi-Ti-Ban Public Works Manager.

870
01:34:08,590 --> 01:34:14,370
The item before you is consideration of franchise fee rates for our solid weight services.

871
01:34:17,350 --> 01:34:19,250
At the May 7th City Council meeting,

872
01:34:19,750 --> 01:34:23,510
City Council directed staff to initiate the proposition due a team process

873
01:34:23,510 --> 01:34:27,250
and to set a public hearing to consider solid waste adjustments.

874
01:34:28,010 --> 01:34:32,750
The rate changes are a result of updated franchise fees for solid weight services.

875
01:34:32,750 --> 01:34:41,150
City completed a study to identify costs that may be recovered through the franchise fees to sustain the city's refuse enterprise.

876
01:34:41,630 --> 01:34:47,430
The franchise fees study looked at different costs that could be recovered by the city.

877
01:34:47,790 --> 01:34:51,910
These costs include city costs for the management and administration of the agreements,

878
01:34:52,510 --> 01:34:57,730
charges for the use of the public right of way, and costs associated with pavement impacts.

879
01:34:57,730 --> 01:35:14,050
since the may 7th council meeting and the proposed rate adjustments, there has been a new case law that associated with pavement impacts, therefore the costs that were originally included for pavement impacts are excluded from the proposed rates tonight.

880
01:35:14,670 --> 01:35:24,370
That results in lower rates than what we had originally presented at the may 7th meeting and also included in the original protest ballots that were milled out.

881
01:35:24,370 --> 01:35:25,670
主

882
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,580
持人ю睇下

883
01:35:58,780 --> 01:36:01,640
July 3rd Issues of the Monterrey Park Press Newspaper

884
01:36:03,180 --> 01:36:11,020
Based on the majority protest process, the city would need to have received over 8,000 valid protests to reject the proposed rate adjustments.

885
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:18,920
As of our latest count prior to this council meeting, the city had received 1,455 mailings.

886
01:36:19,180 --> 01:36:26,720
Since the majority protests needed was not reached, if passed, the updated rates would become effective September 1st, 2025.

887
01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:35,540
As mentioned, the rates considered tonight exclude costs associated with pavement impacts.

888
01:36:35,860 --> 01:36:42,280
Based on the franchise fees of 11.97%, rate adjustments would result in approximately

889
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:48,540
a $4.70 increase for the standards service level for residential customers, setting

890
01:36:48,540 --> 01:36:53,980
the 96-gallon 3-card system monthly rate to $34.69.

891
01:36:54,700 --> 01:36:57,160
這次提到的整個回到的 mortgage will also include

892
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,440
annual consumer price index increase of

893
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:03,100
3.3%, which is already incorporated in the city's

894
01:37:03,100 --> 01:37:04,840
franchise agreement with haulers.

895
01:37:05,140 --> 01:37:09,500
The tables in this slide include the change in rates for

896
01:37:09,500 --> 01:37:13,800
all residential cart service, which are standard service

897
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:17,220
level is the 96 gallon for trash recycling and

898
01:37:17,220 --> 01:37:20,140
organics and also provides rates for multi-family

899
01:37:20,140 --> 01:37:21,140
任務司員未充任

900
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:37,160
由wangyretu 握扮演示及保

901
01:37:46,570 --> 01:37:46,570
守員

902
01:37:46,570 --> 01:37:52,730
兩位工作人員 指示

903
01:37:52,730 --> 01:37:58,290
長官 請您上次提交

904
01:37:58,290 --> 01:38:00,970
請您上次提交

905
01:38:00,970 --> 01:38:01,670
向您與其他電視及電影

906
01:38:01,670 --> 01:38:04,270
所以我的意思是

907
01:38:04,270 --> 01:38:06,890
這次的確實是

908
01:38:06,890 --> 01:38:09,610
我剛才聽到的

909
01:38:09,610 --> 01:38:10,310
前提的

910
01:38:10,310 --> 01:38:11,230
提到

911
01:38:11,230 --> 01:38:13,890
是十分高的

912
01:38:13,890 --> 01:38:16,570
我希望

913
01:38:17,610 --> 01:38:18,410
提到

914
01:38:19,230 --> 01:38:20,510
這次的

915
01:38:20,510 --> 01:38:20,690
提到

916
01:38:20,690 --> 01:38:21,010
這次的

917
01:38:21,010 --> 01:38:22,030
提到

918
01:38:22,030 --> 01:38:23,250
這次的

919
01:38:23,250 --> 01:38:23,570
提到

920
01:38:23,570 --> 01:38:26,670
這次的

921
01:38:28,250 --> 01:38:28,350
提到

922
01:38:28,350 --> 01:38:28,930
這次的

923
01:38:28,930 --> 01:38:30,010
提到

924
01:38:30,010 --> 01:38:31,450
這次的

925
01:38:31,450 --> 01:38:33,990
是第一次開動的總統公司

926
01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:40,730
結束到WRE

927
01:38:40,730 --> 01:38:44,570
這個情況

928
01:38:44,570 --> 01:38:48,210
我當了大量的公司

929
01:38:51,070 --> 01:38:55,150
收到$35.3

930
01:38:55,150 --> 01:38:55,730
充錢

931
01:38:55,730 --> 01:38:58,330
從1月28日

932
01:38:58,330 --> 01:39:06,710
從我所說的 從 August 去 September  $35 起床

933
01:39:06,710 --> 01:39:11,790
那是 24% 起床

934
01:39:11,790 --> 01:39:16,650
在 today's proposed 18% 起床

935
01:39:16,650 --> 01:39:22,090
那 two the residents were looking at from within one year

936
01:39:22,090 --> 01:39:30,530
it went from 24% increase to 42% increase for the next this coming year

937
01:39:31,070 --> 01:39:36,750
I do have I brought with me the actual bills to prove my numbers

938
01:39:36,750 --> 01:39:37,150
OK,

939
01:39:38,470 --> 01:39:40,450
And I just think this is,

940
01:39:40,850 --> 01:39:45,850
this is a preposterous for a trash service

941
01:39:45,850 --> 01:39:48,390
to be increased 42%.

942
01:39:48,390 --> 01:39:50,570
Within a 12 month period,

943
01:39:50,930 --> 01:39:54,550
I urge the council members to vote this down.

944
01:39:55,310 --> 01:40:00,610
And just heard the number of proposed objection was not met.

945
01:40:00,610 --> 01:40:06,770
但是,那 doesn't mean the majority of people is not feeling the hurt.

946
01:40:07,530 --> 01:40:10,370
I think I'm

947
01:40:13,380 --> 01:40:15,360
part of the silent majority,

948
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:19,980
as you can hear from the audience tonight.

949
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:22,000
Everybody is feeling the hurt.

950
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:26,420
41% in 12 months is ludicrous.

951
01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:32,740
And I wish the City Council take consideration of your citizens financial ability.

952
01:40:53,500 --> 01:40:54,900
謝謝

953
01:41:02,740 --> 01:41:04,240
Chair Chair 隨您提供移動問題

954
01:41:06,940 --> 01:41:12,740
Chair Chair 臺灣

955
01:41:12,740 --> 01:41:14,280
蔡 Why

956
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:14,500
二

957
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:26,520
And probably

958
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,420
We are gonna say the same thing that some other people

959
01:41:28,420 --> 01:41:30,360
have said, but I'll try and say it a little differently.

960
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:34,780
I've lived in Monterey Park for close to 12 years.

961
01:41:36,060 --> 01:41:40,140
At that time, I think I was paying 22 dollars a month for the

962
01:41:40,140 --> 01:41:41,240
service, the Rathans.

963
01:41:41,700 --> 01:41:43,700
And that was over about a 10-year period.

964
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:48,260
I understand your hands are tied with what Sacramento does.

965
01:41:48,260 --> 01:41:50,780
所以有些人都要有可能的決策

966
01:41:50,780 --> 01:41:54,700
由outsin 課案

967
01:41:55,380 --> 01:41:56,840
致議人員發出的會議

968
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:58,240
與一些人的接觸

969
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:02,780
並作出會議 可能會有用

970
01:42:05,220 --> 01:42:07,200
但有7個月

971
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:07,700
你打算很多預期

972
01:42:09,580 --> 01:42:11,140
你當時總控制難起來

973
01:42:11,140 --> 01:42:13,520
會將於$29.99時

974
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:19,240
那你 change the bill which is fine, I understand that as well.

975
01:42:20,020 --> 01:42:24,300
But now what ten months into the mitigating contact

976
01:42:24,300 --> 01:42:26,260
from September of last year,

977
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:28,520
you want to raise it another 20%.

978
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:32,320
All the years that I was in business,

979
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:34,840
every time I signed a contract with a client,

980
01:42:35,460 --> 01:42:37,920
I never went back in six months, ten months,

981
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:41,220
or one year, and changed and asked for any more money.

982
01:42:41,220 --> 01:42:42,240
我沒懂

983
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:45,320
因為我看經過我能享受

984
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:46,700
為我能做的

985
01:42:50,630 --> 01:42:52,570
比如那一些人

986
01:42:52,570 --> 01:42:53,030
我說

987
01:42:53,030 --> 01:42:54,310
這件事

988
01:42:54,310 --> 01:42:54,770
那不是

989
01:42:54,770 --> 01:42:54,850
用了我的

990
01:42:54,850 --> 01:42:54,930
願意

991
01:42:54,930 --> 01:42:55,750
真的

992
01:42:55,750 --> 01:42:56,470
對

993
01:42:56,470 --> 01:42:57,870
我希望

994
01:42:57,870 --> 01:42:58,630
有一點

995
01:42:58,630 --> 01:42:58,990
再見

996
01:42:58,990 --> 01:43:03,770
把 ejectors 構成 launchビ

997
01:43:03,770 --> 01:43:10,510
I don't like the fact that

998
01:43:14,530 --> 01:43:18,230
You signed a contract with the company and got rid of the company

999
01:43:18,230 --> 01:43:23,330
And then tundlements later you want to change it again

1000
01:43:23,330 --> 01:43:25,570
That doesn't make any sense to me

1001
01:43:25,570 --> 01:43:32,510
那是 all I have to say, but I think the increase is exorbitant.

1002
01:43:32,850 --> 01:43:34,150
I don't think it's necessary.

1003
01:43:34,630 --> 01:43:40,210
I think 29.99 that we're paying now is more than enough for the citizens of Monterey Park.

1004
01:43:40,990 --> 01:43:42,110
Thank you.

1005
01:43:43,050 --> 01:43:43,910
Thank you, Larry.

1006
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:48,140
Next speaker, Wing Law.

1007
01:43:54,180 --> 01:43:54,600
Good evening.

1008
01:43:55,300 --> 01:43:59,680
Good evening, Mayor, City Council, City Manager.

1009
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:24,000
第1位 I want to say is when we have rare disposal change from heaven, we were giving a large chance can, we were charged the highest fee, regardless we had the small one medium or whatever before, for at least 4 months, except some senior citizen they can get a sooner to change it.

1010
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:58,540
在最後一段時間,我們有看到的訊息,我們有看到的訊息,

1011
01:44:58,540 --> 01:44:59,860
所以它是很小的,

1012
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,980
And nothing, what I've heard from that lady there. And a lot of people don't even understand

1013
01:45:06,980 --> 01:45:12,420
what's all about. And I have no idea where the money goes and how it's been. And I think

1014
01:45:12,420 --> 01:45:19,020
we should start over and give people all the detail what we heard and start over and

1015
01:45:19,020 --> 01:45:26,260
see if any more people would propose or object to this change. Thank you.

1016
01:45:30,450 --> 01:45:32,570
next speaker Vivian.

1017
01:45:45,690 --> 01:45:47,810
Hello everyone again, it's me.

1018
01:45:50,610 --> 01:45:53,570
Firstly as the city council members you might be

1019
01:45:53,570 --> 01:46:00,750
aware why have so many people are here today for two topics. Swimming pool and the charge phase

1020
01:46:00,750 --> 01:46:08,330
increase. There are everyone here today, there are all the most concerned residents in the Montreal

1021
01:46:08,330 --> 01:46:14,830
part. Even that we're not sitting at your seat but we do care about our city. We do care

1022
01:46:14,830 --> 01:46:23,050
about our children and we care about our city's future too. You know, so I know the people left

1023
01:46:23,050 --> 01:46:33,450
earlier maybe here to about a swing and pool. Can I ask the audience a question here? Can I get

1024
01:46:33,450 --> 01:46:39,490
permission to do that? You can ask. You have five minutes. I want to ask the

1025
01:46:39,490 --> 01:46:46,290
audience, are you all here to against the fee increase? Can you raise your hand

1026
01:46:46,290 --> 01:46:46,530
please?

1027
01:46:50,050 --> 01:46:55,370
I think you can see they are representing majority of the city but

1028
01:46:55,370 --> 01:47:01,930
you know as you mine aware a lot of people are very quiet. I don't even recall I

1029
01:47:01,930 --> 01:47:07,230
receive the proposal. I've never seen that. So even possible, since there's so many people

1030
01:47:07,230 --> 01:47:14,810
here to against the idea, either get extended for another proposal wrong or like send a letter

1031
01:47:14,810 --> 01:47:21,990
again, even you still don't get the $8,000 more than we have no concern. You know, so I mean,

1032
01:47:22,070 --> 01:47:28,030
even we don't care, then you can go for it. So I think we deserve another chance to do it.

1033
01:47:28,030 --> 01:47:33,630
You know, so, and, and, per my understanding, they already mentioned about, uh, about, uh,

1034
01:47:34,270 --> 01:47:39,830
uh, Cheshkin company. We just get to give them the contract. They granted, they was granted

1035
01:47:39,830 --> 01:47:46,890
the contract for just about a year or two. And I think the contract term is more than that.

1036
01:47:47,310 --> 01:47:52,690
Even that is the case. And when they negotiate the contract, they must already have a negotiate

1037
01:47:52,690 --> 01:47:55,670
the price and everything in the contract.

1038
01:47:55,850 --> 01:47:58,710
How can they increase the price in such a short time?

1039
01:47:59,330 --> 01:47:59,950
I don't get it.

1040
01:48:00,450 --> 01:48:03,650
So as a city, I think we should reveal the contract

1041
01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:06,950
and try to find the local about it.

1042
01:48:07,170 --> 01:48:09,490
And they already promised for the contract term,

1043
01:48:09,650 --> 01:48:14,010
they should be honored.

1044
01:48:14,790 --> 01:48:16,690
So and then for future.

1045
01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:21,270
So I mean, we always have this kind of contracts going on

1046
01:48:21,270 --> 01:48:23,270
on every other couple of years.

1047
01:48:23,890 --> 01:48:28,850
So I suggest the City Council should work with the City managers and

1048
01:48:28,850 --> 01:48:33,050
occurs together and try to get a term good for those years.

1049
01:48:33,230 --> 01:48:36,710
We don't want that kind of increase doing in between.

1050
01:48:37,590 --> 01:48:41,450
After they get the contract and they're coming out, say, oh, we need more money.

1051
01:48:41,810 --> 01:48:42,490
That's not right.

1052
01:48:43,230 --> 01:48:45,470
And this is not the way to do business, too, Ray.

1053
01:48:45,470 --> 01:48:57,410
So I think as a county like the city, you know, we again, so we can want you to help the city's residents to get the best for the city.

1054
01:48:57,710 --> 01:48:58,910
Thank you so much.

1055
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:05,640
Thank you. I thought you were going to ask two questions, but you only asked one.

1056
01:49:06,860 --> 01:49:07,040
Okay.

1057
01:49:07,500 --> 01:49:08,080
Next speaker.

1058
01:49:11,770 --> 01:49:12,890
That's what I thought.

1059
01:49:15,990 --> 01:49:22,150
Sorry. I was thinking about what is that called?

1060
01:49:25,530 --> 01:49:31,370
The protest about it. So can like can the city send a

1061
01:49:31,370 --> 01:49:38,550
protest ballot or make that available at the city court office or any office so we can get it?

1062
01:49:39,110 --> 01:49:46,570
I'm not sure if she has it right now, most likely maybe not, right? So even if she has it

1063
01:49:46,790 --> 01:49:48,750
that would be nice then we can get a copy.

1064
01:49:49,250 --> 01:49:51,270
So I believe every one of you here,

1065
01:49:51,590 --> 01:49:52,870
even we work together,

1066
01:49:53,270 --> 01:49:56,310
everyone makes some copies to collect those signatures,

1067
01:49:56,910 --> 01:49:57,950
we should be able to do it.

1068
01:49:58,250 --> 01:50:02,010
I hope the POTES ballot has very clear instructions

1069
01:50:02,010 --> 01:50:05,430
how to sign and what is the qualified signature

1070
01:50:05,430 --> 01:50:07,270
and something those information should be

1071
01:50:07,270 --> 01:50:09,210
in the POTES ballot rate.

1072
01:50:11,780 --> 01:50:12,320
Should be right.

1073
01:50:12,420 --> 01:50:13,180
Thank you.

1074
01:50:13,540 --> 01:50:14,040
Yeah, thank you.

1075
01:50:16,100 --> 01:50:17,520
Next speaker, Teresa.

1076
01:51:01,550 --> 01:51:07,310
Prior to, Teresa, there was after it, who has considered her time to Teresa, so she has

1077
01:51:07,310 --> 01:51:07,890
seven minutes.

1078
01:51:08,450 --> 01:51:09,010
Thank you.

1079
01:51:09,250 --> 01:51:10,650
And thank you, City Council members.

1080
01:51:11,270 --> 01:51:15,170
First of all, I want to thank the speaker Vivian, I believe that's her name, ma'am.

1081
01:51:15,970 --> 01:51:19,830
You know, there's a lot of confusion about this protest vote because people think that it's

1082
01:51:19,830 --> 01:51:23,390
aware of that's asking for this additional increase, and it's not.

1083
01:51:23,630 --> 01:51:26,530
It's the city that wants additional funding.

1084
01:51:26,710 --> 01:51:28,270
None of this money is going to go to where.

1085
01:51:28,270 --> 01:51:34,090
So number one, number two, I am one of those that misplaced my ballot.

1086
01:51:34,610 --> 01:51:38,070
So I called the city, spoke to the clerk and I requested a ballot.

1087
01:51:38,950 --> 01:51:40,890
And they told me one was not available.

1088
01:51:41,570 --> 01:51:44,810
I said, so what do I do if I misplaced it and they're like, I don't know.

1089
01:51:45,710 --> 01:51:50,550
So I know other folks also lost their ballots and they called the city.

1090
01:51:50,550 --> 01:52:01,750
And the reason I bring this up is because there's a resolution that was mentioned, resolution 11647,

1091
01:52:02,390 --> 01:52:06,450
that outlines what you need to do for a Prop 218 procedure.

1092
01:52:06,930 --> 01:52:16,390
And specifically on there, it says Section 7F, in the event a property owner loses or misplaces a protest ballot.

1093
01:52:16,390 --> 01:52:21,370
But upon request by the property owner, the city will provide a replacement protest ballot.

1094
01:52:22,170 --> 01:52:24,010
I never got a replacement one.

1095
01:52:24,790 --> 01:52:25,610
No one did.

1096
01:52:26,730 --> 01:52:33,270
And said what they told us is to go to the previous agenda on May, whatever it was that you,

1097
01:52:33,670 --> 01:52:39,070
May 6th, I think it was, and go to page 541 because the protest ballot is there.

1098
01:52:39,930 --> 01:52:44,570
So we did, and a bunch of us started circulating it until one of my neighbors said, what is this?

1099
01:52:44,570 --> 01:52:54,050
Because on that ballot, which was on your main meeting, it doesn't talk about trash, it

1100
01:52:54,050 --> 01:53:00,370
talks about water rates, somebody wasn't paying attention, and it specifically says protest

1101
01:53:00,370 --> 01:53:02,370
should contain the following information.

1102
01:53:02,950 --> 01:53:11,330
Property assessors parcel number two, your water account number three, whether you are

1103
01:53:11,330 --> 01:53:17,050
the owner or tenant that is bill directly by the city for. And this is why I want it

1104
01:53:17,050 --> 01:53:23,010
to look really closely for a statement that you are protesting the water rate

1105
01:53:23,010 --> 01:53:29,130
adjustments. That's what the city clerk directed us to and that's what was being

1106
01:53:29,130 --> 01:53:35,330
circulated. So there is mass confusion. And if you want to be known as a council

1107
01:53:35,330 --> 01:53:39,690
that passed a prop to 18, this is not being transparent.

1108
01:53:41,510 --> 01:53:44,210
And these protests ballots should be provided to us.

1109
01:53:44,750 --> 01:53:48,650
This is something important because it's extended a lot of money.

1110
01:53:50,430 --> 01:53:55,190
I also want to talk about, I don't know if you were able to listen to the news today, but

1111
01:53:55,190 --> 01:54:01,810
Governor Newsom was talking about how these ICE rates have caused a tremendous financial

1112
01:54:01,810 --> 01:54:06,590
impact, not only to businesses, but also to residents.

1113
01:54:07,530 --> 01:54:10,150
As you know, many people are now working from home.

1114
01:54:10,910 --> 01:54:13,290
They are not going grocery shopping.

1115
01:54:14,310 --> 01:54:19,430
They are not tending to their medical needs, et cetera, et cetera, because they're afraid

1116
01:54:19,430 --> 01:54:20,390
of these ice rates.

1117
01:54:21,790 --> 01:54:24,390
It's just the way it is right now, unfortunately.

1118
01:54:25,990 --> 01:54:29,250
I spoke to the managers at our home depot.

1119
01:54:30,150 --> 01:54:31,630
I said, how is this affecting you?

1120
01:54:31,830 --> 01:54:37,750
First of all, they said the tariffs took a big toll on their sales

1121
01:54:37,750 --> 01:54:40,510
because prices escalated as we all know.

1122
01:54:41,430 --> 01:54:43,150
But now people are afraid to go shopping.

1123
01:54:44,710 --> 01:54:48,310
So that means people are watching their pennies.

1124
01:54:49,190 --> 01:54:52,290
Look, I understand that there may be a need to increase this.

1125
01:54:52,290 --> 01:54:55,010
but you also have to understand there needs to be a time

1126
01:54:55,010 --> 01:54:56,030
and a place for it.

1127
01:54:56,910 --> 01:54:59,070
As a previous speaker mentioned,

1128
01:54:59,430 --> 01:55:01,610
wanted to put a pin on it or postpone it,

1129
01:55:02,250 --> 01:55:05,750
postpone it to maybe October, you know,

1130
01:55:06,650 --> 01:55:09,550
so that you can make the decision there based

1131
01:55:09,550 --> 01:55:11,070
on the economic reasons.

1132
01:55:12,230 --> 01:55:15,810
But also, more so if you want to talk about transparency,

1133
01:55:16,830 --> 01:55:18,410
this wasn't transparent.

1134
01:55:18,410 --> 01:55:21,690
All right, this caused so much chaos and convolution.

1135
01:55:23,230 --> 01:55:29,610
So, I just want to remind you all, you are by the people for the people.

1136
01:55:30,620 --> 01:55:36,190
And Henry, Council Member Low, you've always been one that advocates for people and when

1137
01:55:36,190 --> 01:55:37,510
there's a wrong, you make it right.

1138
01:55:38,790 --> 01:55:41,250
Perhaps this was an inadvertent wrong?

1139
01:55:41,810 --> 01:55:45,070
City clerk didn't know that there was this language in here, but it happened.

1140
01:55:45,790 --> 01:55:46,970
And it caused confusion.

1141
01:55:46,970 --> 01:55:50,170
So please, I am asking you to do what is right today.

1142
01:55:51,030 --> 01:55:56,010
And if you are going to approve this, well, first of all, you don't have to approve it.

1143
01:55:56,590 --> 01:56:01,150
If they received 8,000 votes, that means you must deny it.

1144
01:56:01,450 --> 01:56:01,790
You must.

1145
01:56:02,930 --> 01:56:05,750
The threshold isn't there, but you can still say no.

1146
01:56:06,670 --> 01:56:11,530
You can still modify what staff proposed, or proposing no, but 17 or whatever the percentage

1147
01:56:11,530 --> 01:56:11,990
is.

1148
01:56:12,270 --> 01:56:13,690
You can say 5%.

1149
01:56:14,250 --> 01:56:18,330
You can say let's do it for five years and at the end of five years, bring it back.

1150
01:56:18,970 --> 01:56:25,610
You, the four council members, and as I recall, it takes four votes to pass this, if my

1151
01:56:25,610 --> 01:56:31,850
memory serves me correct, but you, four, have the ability to tailor something here that

1152
01:56:31,850 --> 01:56:35,430
really helps the businesses and helps the residents.

1153
01:56:35,990 --> 01:56:42,870
So, I hope you all will do what we elected you to do, and you will be for the people.

1154
01:56:43,690 --> 01:56:44,150
Thank you.

1155
01:56:45,350 --> 01:56:46,050
Thank you.

1156
01:56:50,220 --> 01:56:51,960
Next speaker, John Lennon.

1157
01:56:57,320 --> 01:56:58,400
Thank you for sticking out, John.

1158
01:56:58,520 --> 01:56:59,640
You went from first to last.

1159
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:14,940
Mayor, City Council, it's a privilege to be able to speak tonight with some thoughts.

1160
01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:37,050
And speaking about this garbage, I think if we look at the big picture, there's a lot of people that don't want any raises in cost.

1161
01:57:38,270 --> 01:57:42,750
And if you look at your constituency, they're not political either.

1162
01:57:43,590 --> 01:57:50,010
They're not going to come out to City Council to listen or to speak.

1163
01:57:51,070 --> 01:57:54,470
They're not that kind of people here in Monterey Park.

1164
01:57:55,190 --> 01:58:06,030
But you can be sure that most of them are not very pleased with a rate hike, even if it's a little one like where it says, because it's not that high.

1165
01:58:06,030 --> 01:58:12,910
But if you think about all the people that are going to have to pay this rate hike, it's a lot.

1166
01:58:13,370 --> 01:58:15,410
But then why rate hike so soon?

1167
01:58:16,010 --> 01:58:24,130
Don't let wear pull the wool over your eyes because it's not like we have to listen to them.

1168
01:58:24,130 --> 01:58:25,230
We can go back to Athens.

1169
01:58:25,430 --> 01:58:31,230
So we understand, though, that we have to have three trash bins.

1170
01:58:31,230 --> 01:58:35,890
and I can guarantee it's not easy to fill up those three trash bins anymore.

1171
01:58:36,790 --> 01:58:39,070
It was easy to fill up two but three?

1172
01:58:40,090 --> 01:58:43,470
We have to pay for three and it's not easy to fill up three.

1173
01:58:44,830 --> 01:58:49,570
So like we're trying our best is all I can say and I'm sure

1174
01:58:50,550 --> 01:58:54,350
Monary Park is trying to do their best to comply as well.

1175
01:58:54,610 --> 01:58:59,930
So you can hear how the people do feel and I hope you can understand

1176
01:58:59,930 --> 01:59:12,380
and that it's not a necessity, and I hope that we can really put it off to some later point in time, just not right away.

1177
01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:17,440
This doesn't make sense right away, and I think that's what everyone is complaining about.

1178
01:59:18,500 --> 01:59:19,260
Thank you.

1179
01:59:19,860 --> 01:59:20,760
Thank you, Josh.

1180
01:59:23,890 --> 01:59:25,350
Next speaker is Sen-Ching.

1181
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:29,260
Can you repeat the name again?

1182
01:59:30,540 --> 01:59:31,400
Sen-Ching?

1183
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:46,680
I'm going to get a chance later up here so that because it's being recorded, you can just

1184
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:47,460
There's a very big presence.

1185
01:59:52,890 --> 01:59:54,090
I've been talking about it a lot.

1186
01:59:55,010 --> 01:59:56,650
You said you'd like to talk about it and you'll find it in English.

1187
01:59:57,050 --> 01:59:57,950
It's a little bit of a chance if you can.

1188
01:59:58,050 --> 01:59:59,530
We'll give a matching time.

1189
01:59:59,750 --> 01:59:59,870
So

1190
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:10,320
Okay, so go everything, everyone. I live in Mongolia Park 30 years, 30 years, and then my

1191
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:18,360
business is two 30 years in Mongolia Park. I do the business different, okay? Now what

1192
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:20,920
Today, I have three questions.

1193
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:24,660
Three questions, let everybody know.

1194
02:00:25,580 --> 02:00:26,240
First question,

1195
02:00:31,310 --> 02:00:41,740
the trust fee increased so quickly,

1196
02:00:43,020 --> 02:00:44,520
it's a 10 years contract.

1197
02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:48,400
Seven years contract, but increased in 10 months,

1198
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:50,900
that's not reasonable, it's not right.

1199
02:00:50,900 --> 02:00:51,600
I said four months.

1200
02:00:51,900 --> 02:00:52,320
Four months?

1201
02:00:52,740 --> 02:00:54,220
But actually, I can't.

1202
02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:55,440
I can't.

1203
02:00:56,140 --> 02:00:56,660
Okay.

1204
02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:57,900
It's actually one year.

1205
02:00:58,420 --> 02:01:16,420
If I rent a house to someone else,

1206
02:01:16,660 --> 02:01:18,740
I cannot increase the rentals so quickly

1207
02:01:18,740 --> 02:01:21,120
in such a short time,

1208
02:01:23,230 --> 02:01:25,150
and about five percent.

1209
02:01:25,590 --> 02:01:26,910
We get the point, okay?

1210
02:01:28,070 --> 02:01:28,270
Yes.

1211
02:01:29,530 --> 02:01:46,720
Why does this charge company can increase such kind of unreasonable increase?

1212
02:01:47,180 --> 02:01:49,220
That's not reasonable at all.

1213
02:01:50,400 --> 02:02:02,940
Okay, some solar company meet the deal 20 years, like every year up to 2.5 percent, right?

1214
02:02:03,300 --> 02:02:14,220
Everybody know, solar company meet the 20 years, least, every year up to 2.5 percent, side

1215
02:02:14,220 --> 02:02:22,220
Why? This trust company and Mochua City Hall side of the country, ten years, how many

1216
02:02:22,220 --> 02:02:31,000
up to maybe ten percent, fifty percent? Right? Yeah, very, very no good, this country.

1217
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:39,820
Okay. My company. Okay. Okay. I come to the second one. The water, very, very expensive.

1218
02:03:02,300 --> 02:03:09,800
of. Okay. I have for other house, my family, and I have for other house, my family,

1219
02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:20,140
San Gabriel, temple city, some, same, every month you study tune, those temple city pay $99.

1220
02:03:20,900 --> 02:03:22,880
San Gabriel pay $89.

1221
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:33,630
Why multiple pay? How many, I taught you, 240 per month?

1222
02:03:39,350 --> 02:03:48,610
Very, very, very, it's a bench for, yeah, 247.32, this angle one, okay.

1223
02:03:49,110 --> 02:03:53,910
Now, I do the business, business, it like a mantra park.

1224
02:03:54,630 --> 02:03:55,310
Hello, Smith.

1225
02:03:56,610 --> 02:03:57,050
San Gabriel.

1226
02:03:57,890 --> 02:03:58,370
Ahemba.

1227
02:03:59,030 --> 02:03:59,630
Temple City.

1228
02:04:00,170 --> 02:04:04,170
I come to see the heart of Buddha for me for the electrical.

1229
02:04:04,170 --> 02:04:05,970
It is equal.

1230
02:04:06,930 --> 02:04:07,910
Upgrade panel.

1231
02:04:08,370 --> 02:04:09,470
Everybody knows.

1232
02:04:09,770 --> 02:04:10,450
Upgrade panel.

1233
02:04:11,110 --> 02:04:11,330
Okay.

1234
02:04:11,750 --> 02:04:12,610
I later know the price.

1235
02:04:13,710 --> 02:04:13,950
Same.

1236
02:04:14,530 --> 02:04:15,730
Upgrade panel.

1237
02:04:16,950 --> 02:04:18,990
Install the EV charge.

1238
02:04:20,170 --> 02:04:20,370
Okay.

1239
02:04:22,130 --> 02:04:23,650
Let's meet 180.

1240
02:04:25,390 --> 02:04:28,290
Like a hamburger, 190.

1241
02:04:29,970 --> 02:04:30,430
Okay.

1242
02:04:31,690 --> 02:04:33,570
Like a...

1243
02:05:11,090 --> 02:05:16,270
the lady shifts to me. I say, why you're more than

1244
02:05:16,270 --> 02:05:20,150
charged 500 to 20? This area of the city charged

1245
02:05:20,150 --> 02:05:26,850
like 180 to 100 to 110. Why your city charged

1246
02:05:26,850 --> 02:05:33,750
to 500 to 20? Double double. Why? I say, maybe you

1247
02:05:33,750 --> 02:05:36,390
So, Sabri Dappu to Arta City, welcome.

1248
02:05:37,650 --> 02:05:41,050
I mean, your heart is very different from other city people.

1249
02:05:41,630 --> 02:05:43,190
Gao Yibai, ma.

1250
02:05:43,510 --> 02:05:46,330
I went,是不是, oh, sorry.

1251
02:05:47,070 --> 02:05:50,270
He asked if the martial arts city, Sabri,

1252
02:05:50,670 --> 02:05:52,170
is higher than other cities.

1253
02:05:52,370 --> 02:05:54,270
Why did I charge so much Dappu?

1254
02:05:55,430 --> 02:05:57,750
Yeah, everyone, water Dappu,

1255
02:05:58,190 --> 02:06:00,330
put Dappu, me Dappu, okay.

1256
02:06:00,330 --> 02:06:12,790
I don't know, maybe you see this, the mayor has $1,000 to $1,000?

1257
02:06:12,790 --> 02:06:15,890
No, okay, why are you charging the fee?

1258
02:06:16,310 --> 02:06:17,910
It's everywhere, double.

1259
02:06:20,430 --> 02:06:22,910
I have a question.

1260
02:06:22,910 --> 02:06:24,890
I have three questions.

1261
02:06:26,410 --> 02:06:27,210
Okay.

1262
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:33,140
I will ask the question.

1263
02:06:33,620 --> 02:06:34,560
I will ask the question.

1264
02:06:34,560 --> 02:06:34,720
I don't know.

1265
02:06:35,700 --> 02:06:38,540
One of the questions that I have.

1266
02:06:38,540 --> 02:06:39,100
This is a very clear answer.

1267
02:06:41,190 --> 02:06:42,710
This is a very clear answer.

1268
02:06:43,110 --> 02:06:45,450
Then, I want to ask you all.

1269
02:06:45,890 --> 02:06:47,830
You are not used to it.

1270
02:06:49,690 --> 02:06:50,770
That's not the answer.

1271
02:06:51,010 --> 02:06:52,430
Garry, Arantin.

1272
02:07:01,890 --> 02:07:07,370
So he's not agreed for the city to charge, to increase their strategy.

1273
02:07:08,090 --> 02:07:08,930
Thank you.

1274
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:11,600
Thank you.

1275
02:07:12,740 --> 02:07:15,680
Next speaker, Chem Kendo.

1276
02:07:16,300 --> 02:07:16,620
This one.

1277
02:07:24,610 --> 02:07:25,670
Hi, good evening.

1278
02:07:26,510 --> 02:07:31,270
I don't agree with the increased rates, because I don't even agree with paying $29,000.

1279
02:07:31,990 --> 02:07:36,990
I have two homes on my property and I don't even use the six cans.

1280
02:07:37,910 --> 02:07:42,030
On top of that, where has been charging me for a third property that doesn't even,

1281
02:07:42,250 --> 02:07:44,630
like a third home that doesn't even exist on my property.

1282
02:07:45,230 --> 02:07:51,210
Like I've been disputing with them since February and they're refusing to refund me for the over charges.

1283
02:07:51,770 --> 02:07:56,590
What kind of business doesn't pay the customer back when they over charge?

1284
02:07:56,790 --> 02:07:57,550
That's their mistake.

1285
02:07:57,550 --> 02:08:00,210
They should validate that they're charging correctly.

1286
02:08:01,430 --> 02:08:06,050
And they make it like I'm the one that made the mistake that I didn't inquire about it on time.

1287
02:08:07,570 --> 02:08:12,070
I feel like I'm being scanned by where I feel like I'm being scanned by the city.

1288
02:08:12,910 --> 02:08:14,390
I go, this is just all ridiculous.

1289
02:08:14,930 --> 02:08:17,610
We shouldn't be paying more for like terrible service.

1290
02:08:18,070 --> 02:08:19,430
They have a customer service line.

1291
02:08:19,770 --> 02:08:20,890
They can't customer service.

1292
02:08:21,130 --> 02:08:22,350
They tell you to send an email.

1293
02:08:22,590 --> 02:08:26,710
Nobody ever responds to the email and I have to make multiple calls.

1294
02:08:26,710 --> 02:08:31,990
And nothing gets resolved, so I don't even understand why you guys are doing business with them.

1295
02:08:34,140 --> 02:08:35,200
Yeah, it's just terrible.

1296
02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:38,720
Thank you.

1297
02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:45,140
We create her information and then we can make sure we get her information if she has a dispute.

1298
02:08:45,900 --> 02:08:52,800
Because maybe you can line her up with one of the managers that we have connections with at where to help resolve that.

1299
02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:53,760
We'll do.

1300
02:08:55,460 --> 02:08:57,260
Next speaker, Lucia Roybal.

1301
02:08:57,260 --> 02:08:57,320
Hello.

1302
02:09:04,380 --> 02:09:05,140
Hi there.

1303
02:09:06,160 --> 02:09:10,680
I'm actually going to shake it up and I'm going to start where I was going to make with my

1304
02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:10,960
ending.

1305
02:09:12,620 --> 02:09:17,920
Proposition to a team passed in 1996 requiring local government to either hold the ballot

1306
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:21,520
vote or use a protest ballot before increasing property related fees.

1307
02:09:22,040 --> 02:09:27,040
But it wasn't until 2014 that the city of Monterey Park formally adopted this into the municipal

1308
02:09:27,040 --> 02:09:32,840
code by resolution conveniently leaving out the ballot vote option and only including the

1309
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:33,900
the silent protest method.

1310
02:09:36,870 --> 02:09:40,890
I'm here to express my opposition to the proposed rate increase and

1311
02:09:40,890 --> 02:09:41,970
the process behind it.

1312
02:09:42,750 --> 02:09:46,090
The current setup is designed to benefit council, not its residents.

1313
02:09:46,770 --> 02:09:49,790
The city failed to meet proposition two-eighths to your requirements.

1314
02:09:50,490 --> 02:09:54,010
Prop two-eighths, he requires a clear explanation of how fees are calculated.

1315
02:09:54,750 --> 02:09:58,470
The rate sheet that we received only lists current and proposed rates.

1316
02:09:58,930 --> 02:10:01,990
The polling hearing notice, I brought attachments to, by the way.

1317
02:10:02,290 --> 02:10:03,970
The public hearing notice only says,

1318
02:10:03,970 --> 02:10:09,370
the proposal will be presented to the City Council for approval at a public hearing on July 16th.

1319
02:10:09,370 --> 02:10:14,510
If approved, the proposed rates outlined in this chart included in this notice will become effective

1320
02:10:14,510 --> 02:10:19,930
September 1st. While I'm not clear of the public notice is legally required to be included in today's

1321
02:10:19,930 --> 02:10:24,550
hearing, it would be in good faith to do so. I say it because the mailed notice list conflicting

1322
02:10:24,550 --> 02:10:30,870
rates and information that was in the agenda packet. City must explain factors are driving the

1323
02:10:30,870 --> 02:10:35,410
increased and why the only explanation provided was increased cost of service with no itemized

1324
02:10:35,410 --> 02:10:40,490
breakdown or supporting documents. The notice failed to provide online resources where to find

1325
02:10:40,490 --> 02:10:45,570
information or how to even locate our personal number. And said the public is directed to call

1326
02:10:45,570 --> 02:10:46,730
public works department.

1327
02:10:48,980 --> 02:10:53,040
The proposed rate hike is unjustified. It has not been a full year since

1328
02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:59,000
the service started and both say and where have failed to meet basic service standards. The rollout

1329
02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:00,880
phase was delayed for over two weeks.

1330
02:11:01,380 --> 02:11:04,140
No trust was collected for my street, but either wear or

1331
02:11:04,140 --> 02:11:08,780
Athens for the week of August 26th and the week of September 2nd,

1332
02:11:09,100 --> 02:11:12,360
whereas first pick up was September 12th.

1333
02:11:12,660 --> 02:11:15,600
Others waited longer, yet residents were built for

1334
02:11:15,600 --> 02:11:17,560
August September by where and the city.

1335
02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:22,880
The overlap does not justify missing two weeks of service in charging us twice for it.

1336
02:11:23,980 --> 02:11:26,820
These are not clerical errors, they're billing violations and

1337
02:11:26,820 --> 02:11:29,480
And I request to have a look into a refund to all of those affected.

1338
02:11:30,620 --> 02:11:34,860
We are collected recyclables and organics of the same truck violating state law in their

1339
02:11:34,860 --> 02:11:35,620
own contract.

1340
02:11:36,040 --> 02:11:36,580
I brought pictures.

1341
02:11:36,760 --> 02:11:40,280
I wasn't able to bring a video.

1342
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:44,520
Why do we pay for three bins if they collect the malt together?

1343
02:11:45,460 --> 02:11:50,220
The truss ones are not equipped with tight fitting lids allowing orders to escape in a truck past

1344
02:11:50,220 --> 02:11:53,980
and create unsanitary conditions violating state law.

1345
02:11:53,980 --> 02:11:55,000
The

1346
02:11:57,430 --> 02:12:01,050
silent ballot format is unreliable and easily overlooked.

1347
02:12:01,610 --> 02:12:07,010
Even when submitted, there is no confirmation, no receipt, audit or public tabulation.

1348
02:12:07,610 --> 02:12:09,030
The outcome is predetermined.

1349
02:12:09,310 --> 02:12:14,090
Before the hearing even started, the staff report already states that staff is recommending

1350
02:12:14,090 --> 02:12:17,330
that the council find that less than 51% protests were submitted.

1351
02:12:17,810 --> 02:12:19,530
This makes the public hearing meaningless.

1352
02:12:20,590 --> 02:12:28,520
other cities, other cities like Sarah Moderen as to the publicly count ballots and provide

1353
02:12:28,520 --> 02:12:33,020
tabulation logs. I submitted various public records request in search for this process

1354
02:12:33,020 --> 02:12:39,140
and none was provided. City documents only say city follows the prop 218 process. There's

1355
02:12:39,140 --> 02:12:44,440
no mention of handling, counting or verifying ballots. There is legal presence for validating

1356
02:12:44,440 --> 02:12:49,900
rate hikes using vague or misleading language and lack of cost disclosure to name a few.

1357
02:12:50,620 --> 02:12:54,380
This isn't about trash rates, it's about the erosion of public trust.

1358
02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:58,400
The city continues to draw on its residents in process and legal language.

1359
02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:03,440
Residents can't possibly attend every public meeting or dissect every agenda.

1360
02:13:03,980 --> 02:13:09,180
We elected you to represent us in IIRS Council to reject this rate increase until compliant

1361
02:13:09,180 --> 02:13:10,760
and transparent processes in place.

1362
02:13:11,220 --> 02:13:16,240
Stop the silent ballot system that only benefits council and give us the option for a real vote

1363
02:13:16,240 --> 02:13:17,500
as allowed by state law.

1364
02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:18,260
Thank you.

1365
02:13:18,260 --> 02:13:21,220
Thank you.

1366
02:13:25,870 --> 02:13:27,410
Next speaker, Serena Chen,

1367
02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:50,640
Mayor and Council, I was not prepared to speak.

1368
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:56,400
But when I heard something, then I feel that I had to stand up to say something.

1369
02:13:58,470 --> 02:13:59,830
I will see the letter in June.

1370
02:14:00,590 --> 02:14:11,910
In the letter, there was that that we need to 8,000 vote, or in order to pass the against

1371
02:14:11,910 --> 02:14:18,850
the product increase, and I would like to ask, we received more than 1,000 against

1372
02:14:18,850 --> 02:14:28,150
the world. How many supported world have we received so far? You did not issue any support

1373
02:14:28,150 --> 02:14:35,490
vote and only issued against no. I understand that in Monchipark, there is a 26,000 household.

1374
02:14:36,550 --> 02:14:43,710
And I just find out that the 8,000 that we require to pass this increase, I just learned today.

1375
02:14:44,910 --> 02:14:48,630
I already asked my, you know, my labors to participate.

1376
02:14:49,310 --> 02:14:54,650
Then they said, oh, if they said nobody against, I will support that increase.

1377
02:14:55,070 --> 02:14:57,210
Then we are going to win the case anyway.

1378
02:14:58,010 --> 02:14:59,590
So people can't be blind.

1379
02:14:59,710 --> 02:14:59,950
And the...

1380
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:04,540
So, the silent people, you assume they all support,

1381
02:15:06,560 --> 02:15:13,260
does not fear. And also, I did a study. Under the

1382
02:15:13,260 --> 02:15:22,380
the interletter dimension, they use this increase according to the CPI. In United States,

1383
02:15:22,660 --> 02:15:33,640
the CPI for past five years, only 2022 increased 8%, or the years less than 5%, last year

1384
02:15:33,640 --> 02:15:43,200
is only 2.9% just like the other gentleman said. And I also did a calculation. Right now

1385
02:15:43,200 --> 02:15:59,840
the increase is 18%. I did every year, every year, this year increased 3.5% or 4% or 5% even the

1386
02:15:59,840 --> 02:16:10,100
highest of 5% only by the 4th of the year, 2029 is still under this nut enough for the

1387
02:16:10,100 --> 02:16:21,480
increase. I did the calculation. If we increase 3.5 percent, so for example, I use 27

1388
02:16:22,030 --> 02:16:29,180
three bins. The middle size was three bins as 27 dollars a year, a month right now. But they

1389
02:16:29,180 --> 02:16:39,240
asked for $31 and 83 cents. So I did the calculation. If we increase by 3.5 percent, so the first

1390
02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:51,400
year is only 29, 97. The second year is $30 and 12 cents. The third year is $30 and 41 cents.

1391
02:16:52,940 --> 02:17:00,500
So we are increased by that by the fourth year, still not reached the increase we have now. So I

1392
02:17:00,500 --> 02:17:08,740
don't know what is justification to increase in meeting people, 18%, I don't think any salary people

1393
02:17:08,740 --> 02:17:15,640
can have that increase. And also, as we know, the SSA, but with time in people, the estimate,

1394
02:17:15,820 --> 02:17:23,760
the increase for SSA for 2026 is only 2% for God's sakes. So, how could in the world

1395
02:17:23,760 --> 02:17:30,440
and you ask for increase 18% immediately for five years? That's not fair. I also just learned

1396
02:17:30,440 --> 02:17:37,020
that we've signed a contract for seven years. Now we signed a contract not only for one

1397
02:17:37,020 --> 02:17:42,120
year that we started the country for another five years. So I would like to kind of like

1398
02:17:43,260 --> 02:17:48,800
study all the numbers. I also went through the, the, the, the coastal,

1399
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:58,300
core and core core, the CBI for the Los Angeles and the high and long beach CBI for last year

1400
02:17:58,300 --> 02:18:05,000
is only 4.2%. How in the whole world can you increase that to 18% immediately?

1401
02:18:06,080 --> 02:18:11,820
And then only for the people, so you know, only 1,000 you will see it, then you decide

1402
02:18:11,820 --> 02:18:12,160
all.

1403
02:18:12,380 --> 02:18:16,820
So the majority is at this, the silence, so they are assuming that they agree with that.

1404
02:18:17,520 --> 02:18:22,180
So I don't think this is fair and then I don't think this is going to respect the resident

1405
02:18:22,180 --> 02:18:24,200
of the Manchu Park people.

1406
02:18:24,740 --> 02:18:26,540
So thank you for here for me.

1407
02:18:27,800 --> 02:18:28,180
Thank you.

1408
02:18:30,730 --> 02:18:32,530
Next speaker, Kathy Balm.

1409
02:18:45,300 --> 02:18:50,900
Good evening, Mayor and Council Member, staff and multiple residents.

1410
02:18:52,200 --> 02:19:00,040
I do have come into May that I work from Detroit for, and I didn't receive any letter at all.

1411
02:19:00,560 --> 02:19:06,980
I don't with the paper from whatever city senate, but I didn't receive any the proposal for the

1412
02:19:06,980 --> 02:19:08,000
paper that for that.

1413
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:12,360
I download it on internet today because I was on the Monterey Park life.

1414
02:19:13,460 --> 02:19:17,500
A lot of people in my blog, the whole of Hamburg, they don't know.

1415
02:19:17,880 --> 02:19:20,300
And I gave them the information today.

1416
02:19:21,080 --> 02:19:23,200
By the way, 10, 30 today.

1417
02:19:23,400 --> 02:19:26,460
And they don't even know that the new day supports me today either.

1418
02:19:27,240 --> 02:19:32,780
So for me, a lot of information that you get requirement for 8,000 people that to be passed

1419
02:19:32,780 --> 02:19:37,180
the bill, I don't know where you get that number form and how you vote for it.

1420
02:19:37,180 --> 02:19:41,200
Like, if a person in my family for one role or her family,

1421
02:19:41,640 --> 02:19:43,700
that a lot of not clear in the paper,

1422
02:19:43,820 --> 02:19:46,920
and then when we will sit down and look at the paper,

1423
02:19:47,140 --> 02:19:49,620
they will exactly what she say, it will water.

1424
02:19:50,180 --> 02:19:53,600
And then a lot of time that for the homeowner,

1425
02:19:53,880 --> 02:19:54,820
it's concerned for them.

1426
02:19:55,120 --> 02:19:56,720
But for the tenant, they don't care,

1427
02:19:56,860 --> 02:19:58,100
because they don't pay for water.

1428
02:19:58,420 --> 02:20:01,940
So they're not going to respond to those kind of increasements.

1429
02:20:02,540 --> 02:20:05,340
So if you get paid on the residential,

1430
02:20:05,340 --> 02:20:10,820
in there, it's not going to be working out because they're not on the who pay for it.

1431
02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:17,600
They should be increased for the residential who pay for it, who really affected to them.

1432
02:20:18,240 --> 02:20:23,540
Now go back to the where, when I found out that we would switch from 8th-century where we

1433
02:20:23,540 --> 02:20:28,420
were taught that they were too hot, they increased it, that's why we used to Egypt one.

1434
02:20:28,420 --> 02:20:35,460
and the contract will like seven years, so they're changing the wave on us, not even one year

1435
02:20:35,460 --> 02:20:43,580
yet. Also, I don't know if the City Council or any of your staff member even going to work

1436
02:20:43,580 --> 02:20:50,080
and checking their work, see they're working probably or not, because for what I know, on my block,

1437
02:20:50,080 --> 02:20:54,440
the jackhand will be now we follow exactly what

1438
02:20:54,440 --> 02:21:00,400
procedure was sent to us but we have a nasty neighbor and they always show on

1439
02:21:00,400 --> 02:21:05,540
whatever in the trackman they don't even know what color for and we will got the

1440
02:21:05,540 --> 02:21:11,440
yellow tape on our trackman and our track can be picked up until next week because of

1441
02:21:11,440 --> 02:21:16,200
somebody else put on the track and when I stop the driver and they told us that

1442
02:21:17,300 --> 02:21:24,120
We cannot sit down there on there just to garden our track can and before eight and don't require to do that

1443
02:21:24,120 --> 02:21:31,380
We just told track their job to select it collected and they are doing their own work for whatever item

1444
02:21:31,380 --> 02:21:37,860
Supports to be we don't have to do the work for them and then now they get increased the money just for not doing their job

1445
02:21:37,860 --> 02:21:40,600
We did it so why didn't create a job?

1446
02:21:42,000 --> 02:21:45,880
Also if you noted that the track can

1447
02:21:46,200 --> 02:21:53,280
that big container. We on on a hammer. If penny low, you are my counsel. If you ever

1448
02:21:53,280 --> 02:21:58,380
job by there, get me to the resident over there, you will see. The truck can every Wednesday,

1449
02:21:58,740 --> 02:22:04,680
they put the same plate. And then the truck, the who whip the truth, they won't be able to.

1450
02:22:05,360 --> 02:22:13,400
That location for month and month, not big whip and clean. We have to do that ourselves. We have

1451
02:22:13,400 --> 02:22:17,180
to go out there and clean it just because there are arrows to put the track

1452
02:22:17,180 --> 02:22:21,960
hand, the same spot every single day, and they put the track hand through

1453
02:22:21,960 --> 02:22:27,380
early before 12. So the track hand for women from eight and not even go through

1454
02:22:27,380 --> 02:22:31,280
yet. So that that whole block that for the track hand

1455
02:22:31,280 --> 02:22:38,180
were in front of the house, it dirty, it nasty, it smelly because that reason. So a lot

1456
02:22:38,180 --> 02:22:49,020
We don't have time. Our city are the staff. It failed for not supervising their work when you are selecting the new company due to part to supervising them.

1457
02:22:49,020 --> 02:22:59,020
See how they do the good or not. We don't want to change in the perfect company that will do the good job to the really bad server that we have to pay and now they increase from that.

1458
02:22:59,440 --> 02:23:00,540
Thank you very much.

1459
02:23:01,360 --> 02:23:02,000
Thank you.

1460
02:23:02,140 --> 02:23:02,260
Thank you.

1461
02:23:02,260 --> 02:23:02,800
This is me, Andrew.

1462
02:23:02,960 --> 02:23:08,240
Can we get the constituent information and especially if there is issues about the

1463
02:23:08,240 --> 02:23:12,660
where staff being sloppy in collecting the refuse?

1464
02:23:13,820 --> 02:23:15,280
Yes, Mr. Mayor, members of the council.

1465
02:23:15,700 --> 02:23:18,080
I'll confirm that we have the contact information.

1466
02:23:18,840 --> 02:23:19,460
Yes, okay.

1467
02:23:19,560 --> 02:23:23,240
Looks like we have the contact information so we can follow up with that, isn't it?

1468
02:23:25,620 --> 02:23:29,000
In addition to the speakers, we also receive two written communications.

1469
02:23:29,000 --> 02:23:38,920
One is from Alinda Bell who writes regarding the same concerns regarding the increase exceeding the CPI.

1470
02:23:39,360 --> 02:23:46,660
She is extremely concerned why is it five to six times larger than anticipated by the city's contract.

1471
02:23:47,500 --> 02:23:52,900
The citizens of Monterey Park deserve to know why the increase is so much larger than anticipated.

1472
02:23:52,900 --> 02:24:04,960
How much of the shortfall is due to an unanticipated cost by the city and why and how much of the increases being requested by the contractor franchisee and why.

1473
02:24:05,700 --> 02:24:17,980
She'd also like to know what assurances will be provided that no further refuse service rate increases may be sought for and in the second through 5th years of service as provided by the city's contract.

1474
02:24:19,040 --> 02:24:20,800
She signs off respectfully.

1475
02:24:21,840 --> 02:24:27,120
In addition to Miss Bell, there was another written communication from Stuart Hiromi Phillips.

1476
02:24:27,920 --> 02:24:34,180
He was regarding serious concerns, regarding the notice of the public caring for proposed

1477
02:24:34,680 --> 02:24:35,840
refuse rate adjustments.

1478
02:24:36,560 --> 02:24:41,840
He spoke to several residents and it appears that many have not received this notice, raising

1479
02:24:41,840 --> 02:24:45,440
questions about proper distribution of the notice.

1480
02:24:45,440 --> 02:24:53,420
Proposition to 18 mandates of 45-day review period yet he states that he received a ballot

1481
02:24:53,420 --> 02:24:59,020
only 16 days ago on June 25th, which is insufficient notice.

1482
02:24:59,620 --> 02:25:05,400
This lack of transparency and inadequate time to organize a majority protest required

1483
02:25:05,400 --> 02:25:09,540
to reject the proposal's undermines public trust and due process.

1484
02:25:09,540 --> 02:25:16,220
He urges you to investigate the distribution process, extend the review period to comply

1485
02:25:16,220 --> 02:25:21,380
with Proposition 218 and ensure all affected property owners receive proper notice.

1486
02:25:21,880 --> 02:25:25,480
Please address this matter urgently before this hearing.

1487
02:25:26,780 --> 02:25:27,460
No other comments?

1488
02:25:28,080 --> 02:25:28,960
Thank you, Madam Clerk.

1489
02:25:29,860 --> 02:25:30,780
Mr. Mayor.

1490
02:25:33,940 --> 02:25:34,140
Mr. Mayor.

1491
02:25:34,140 --> 02:25:36,440
Go ahead and add your comment if you have a quick one.

1492
02:25:38,400 --> 02:25:44,180
It's really quick and it was brought up in the former agenda item D with the general fund

1493
02:25:44,180 --> 02:25:44,660
in the pool.

1494
02:25:45,520 --> 02:25:50,200
I believe you said something about the rate increase that could probably fund the pool

1495
02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:51,020
and the general fund.

1496
02:25:51,220 --> 02:25:57,540
Isn't that strictly prohibited to use rate hikes from these kind of utilities for the general

1497
02:25:57,540 --> 02:25:57,840
fund?

1498
02:25:58,300 --> 02:26:03,220
I don't think that was brought up, but it'd be good to not mislead the public.

1499
02:26:03,220 --> 02:26:03,780
Okay.

1500
02:26:03,780 --> 02:26:03,900
Okay.

1501
02:26:05,600 --> 02:26:08,520
Mr. Mayor and members of the council, I just wanted to follow up.

1502
02:26:08,740 --> 02:26:14,080
Staff is able to pull up this slide if you're interested in seeing the council member

1503
02:26:14,080 --> 02:26:19,240
loads requests to see the, I believe it was the right differences when we were rewarding

1504
02:26:19,240 --> 02:26:20,260
the contract to wear.

1505
02:26:21,040 --> 02:26:24,500
Is that sprout up, if I can ask, if we can ask, let me do this.

1506
02:26:24,980 --> 02:26:28,740
So let me lead this discussion because we can be here on that if we don't, if you do go

1507
02:26:28,740 --> 02:26:28,920
on that.

1508
02:26:28,940 --> 02:26:29,980
Mr. Chair, do you want to close the public here?

1509
02:26:29,980 --> 02:26:32,400
Yeah, let me close the public hearing.

1510
02:26:34,140 --> 02:26:39,120
Okay, so let me kind of just throw out, I heard a lot of things, and that's great.

1511
02:26:39,240 --> 02:26:40,340
That means you guys are involved.

1512
02:26:41,080 --> 02:26:46,080
Let me just kind of level set here, big picture level standpoint, and then we can have more

1513
02:26:46,080 --> 02:26:46,860
discussion on this.

1514
02:26:46,960 --> 02:26:51,780
Okay, first one is about proposition 218, the question is about that process.

1515
02:26:52,500 --> 02:26:58,080
The second one is the background on how we got into the work contract, which is the

1516
02:26:58,080 --> 02:27:02,860
Athens contract, the third one, let me just share with you some of the cost from the other city.

1517
02:27:03,060 --> 02:27:04,280
So you have an idea of where we are.

1518
02:27:04,780 --> 02:27:10,720
And then the fourth one, that $35, I'm around it to $35.

1519
02:27:11,360 --> 02:27:17,640
I know it's $34, $60, $69, but for my sick, let's run that to $35 versus $30.

1520
02:27:18,680 --> 02:27:23,720
First one, let me ask, let me ask our city attorney about this real quick.

1521
02:27:23,720 --> 02:27:27,580
Proposition 218, what is the California law requirement?

1522
02:27:29,340 --> 02:27:30,880
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the council.

1523
02:27:31,460 --> 02:27:33,840
So there are two parts of the law.

1524
02:27:33,960 --> 02:27:39,480
One is the addition to the California Constitution, which is Article 13D, Section 6,

1525
02:27:40,080 --> 02:27:45,140
which talks about how water, wastewater, and solid waste fees may be adopted.

1526
02:27:46,040 --> 02:27:53,700
And I've heard the commentators talk about basically a proactive vote, and

1527
02:27:53,700 --> 02:27:59,160
Those three fee structures, however, pursuant to the California Constitution do not require a proactive

1528
02:27:59,160 --> 02:28:03,780
meaning that you do not need a majority approval to have those fees go into effect.

1529
02:28:04,340 --> 02:28:09,420
The Constitution actually provides that it's a protest vote, which is why we're talking tonight about,

1530
02:28:09,540 --> 02:28:13,060
whether or not there is a majority protest against those fees going into effect.

1531
02:28:13,520 --> 02:28:19,960
And what that means is 50 plus 1 is what is needed in terms of percentages is what is needed

1532
02:28:19,960 --> 02:28:21,900
to defeat the adoption of those fees.

1533
02:28:22,660 --> 02:28:27,020
So one of the reasons that the ballots haven't actually been counted.

1534
02:28:27,100 --> 02:28:32,380
We've only counted pieces of mail that have come in, is because in order to even start counting the ballots

1535
02:28:32,380 --> 02:28:39,000
to make sure that they aren't duplicative, that the property owner is actually represented on those ballots,

1536
02:28:40,080 --> 02:28:46,040
is because, I'm sorry, we haven't counted the ballots because we haven't even opened the envelopes.

1537
02:28:46,040 --> 02:28:53,920
If we haven't had enough pieces of mail to even get to the 8,000 plus threshold that's needed to approach having a majority vote.

1538
02:28:54,420 --> 02:28:59,360
From a public resources standpoint, it doesn't make sense to invest the time to actually count those ballots.

1539
02:29:00,500 --> 02:29:06,320
The state legislature also implemented the Prop 218 on the best implementation bill.

1540
02:29:06,480 --> 02:29:11,740
That was, that occurred in order to help facilitate the implementation of Prop 218.

1541
02:29:11,740 --> 02:29:20,980
What happened in this city in 2014 was the city council adopted a resolution that actually adds an additional layer to help with

1542
02:29:20,980 --> 02:29:27,220
implementing these types of fee structures. Amongst other things, for example, there's no legal requirement that we send out a ballot.

1543
02:29:28,100 --> 02:29:31,780
Neither the constitution nor state law require us to send out a ballot.

1544
02:29:32,020 --> 02:29:39,760
We send out a ballot for two reasons. One is, it doubles as both the notice for the protest hearing.

1545
02:29:39,760 --> 02:29:44,160
and also it helps facilitate counting of those ballots if we need to.

1546
02:29:44,840 --> 02:29:47,020
Only property owners get notices of the ballot.

1547
02:29:47,760 --> 02:29:49,980
That's all that's required under state law.

1548
02:29:50,800 --> 02:29:54,400
We can go back and verify what date all those notices were sent out.

1549
02:29:54,680 --> 02:29:56,000
I have previously done so.

1550
02:29:56,420 --> 02:29:59,940
It was on or about May 29th, I think is what-

1551
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:29,300
I recall. May 30th. May 30th. May 30th. All of those were mailed out in accordance with California law. There was some discussion about what the ballot wording actually was. Again, I note that there's no requirement that we send out a ballot. I also note that the ballot that was actually sent out is not the one that was presented on this blue piece of paper tonight. It actually has the notification with regard to the franchise fee proposal.

1552
02:30:29,300 --> 02:30:35,860
I will also finally note, and please correct me if I have missed anything, that the council

1553
02:30:35,860 --> 02:30:41,240
had an extensive discussion about the franchise fee amounts before the notices were sent out,

1554
02:30:41,500 --> 02:30:46,660
whether to send out what they should be, whether or not notice should be sent out, and set

1555
02:30:46,660 --> 02:30:49,100
the date for the public hearing back in May.

1556
02:30:49,900 --> 02:30:56,640
The final observation I make on this is that there have been changes to the law that are

1557
02:30:56,640 --> 02:31:01,920
We're noted in the staff report with regard to why there's a recommendation that the fees actually be reduced.

1558
02:31:02,580 --> 02:31:12,260
A component of the study was rendered invalid by an appellate court during the time period that the notices were sent out into the night state.

1559
02:31:12,860 --> 02:31:17,880
So that has been reduced, that calculation has been taken out of the study for purposes of reducing the fee.

1560
02:31:18,580 --> 02:31:23,700
And I also note that there have been changes to state law effective at the beginning of this year.

1561
02:31:23,700 --> 02:31:34,220
So we will actually be bringing back a revised resolution for prop to 18 for the future on a future agenda item, obviously not tonight.

1562
02:31:34,960 --> 02:31:35,500
Happy to answer that.

1563
02:31:35,520 --> 02:31:40,020
Okay, so the second question to that is did we comply to the pop to 18 laws?

1564
02:31:40,760 --> 02:31:44,940
We complied with California Constitution and state law, yes.

1565
02:31:45,240 --> 02:31:51,240
Okay, so I'm going to summarize that because there was a lot of legal lease terms in layman's terms.

1566
02:31:51,240 --> 02:31:56,360
From my understanding from what you just said is, there's a California law for proposition 218.

1567
02:31:57,200 --> 02:32:03,460
The City of Mind Park with the Council, and I think there's a member here who actually said on that council in 2014.

1568
02:32:04,240 --> 02:32:13,320
The council here went above and beyond the state law and said in the City of Mind Park, we are going to make it harder for these things to happen, which we did.

1569
02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:28,760
and even the mailing out of these refuse fees have met the require not only the state law, but also the city resolution that was blessed by City Council back in 2014.

1570
02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:30,780
Is that, did I get that clear?

1571
02:32:32,240 --> 02:32:37,840
So the notices that were sent out were sent out to all property owners in accordance with California law.

1572
02:32:38,260 --> 02:32:38,500
Okay.

1573
02:32:38,500 --> 02:32:44,760
Okay so that's the first one okay can we show the chart real quick about I want to kind

1574
02:32:44,760 --> 02:32:52,100
of walk to the background of where we were remember the the trash contract is for seven

1575
02:32:52,100 --> 02:32:59,960
years this actually went into effect last September but the discussion for the trash contract

1576
02:32:59,960 --> 02:33:08,280
went back 18 months before last September, this is what we got in terms of a bit.

1577
02:33:09,020 --> 02:33:18,220
From a simple standpoint, the City Council that was sitting here in 2017 voted based on

1578
02:33:18,220 --> 02:33:24,920
measure BB, which is a measure ballot by the City of Marri Park resident who said we will

1579
02:33:24,920 --> 02:33:28,680
change our trash contract every seven years or so.

1580
02:33:29,340 --> 02:33:33,060
That's voted by the residents, by all of you, by self-included.

1581
02:33:33,920 --> 02:33:40,980
When that contract came up in 2024, because initially just was proved in 2017,

1582
02:33:42,300 --> 02:33:45,580
the rates that we were paying, again, I'm going to keep it simple.

1583
02:33:46,160 --> 02:33:50,920
I was paying $24.99 or $25 for a single family home.

1584
02:33:52,400 --> 02:33:58,420
If I went with where I was paying $29.99 again,

1585
02:33:58,420 --> 02:34:00,700
and instead of $25, $30.

1586
02:34:01,750 --> 02:34:04,400
If I went with Athens who actually bid,

1587
02:34:05,260 --> 02:34:10,610
Athens was gonna charge me about $38.69, $39.

1588
02:34:12,460 --> 02:34:15,300
By default, by our measure BB,

1589
02:34:15,640 --> 02:34:21,620
the city had to take the lower one at $25 versus $38.

1590
02:34:23,330 --> 02:34:27,280
If we kept the same contract with Athens, the two bid,

1591
02:34:27,280 --> 02:34:30,140
Then that would have been $58.

1592
02:34:31,220 --> 02:34:34,900
So you can imagine the city's position in terms of where we needed to go.

1593
02:34:35,680 --> 02:34:41,020
We had, by measure BB, we had to take the contract of the lower rate.

1594
02:34:42,360 --> 02:34:45,100
Assuming everything was the same, which is the three-card system.

1595
02:34:45,720 --> 02:34:57,160
So instead of paying $38, or I'm going to run it to $39, we will all pay 25, actually $29 or $30, okay?

1596
02:34:57,160 --> 02:35:05,040
Okay? The contract will wear a CPI every year of 3% or so. Again, I'm just estimating.

1597
02:35:06,060 --> 02:35:10,620
Even if you built in the 3% over the 7 years, it was still going to be less than $38.

1598
02:35:11,640 --> 02:35:19,060
So by default, we have to take that because, again, voter initiated, we did this to ourselves.

1599
02:35:19,060 --> 02:35:23,100
We asked for this, okay? So that's the background.

1600
02:35:25,280 --> 02:35:28,860
The third item here is cost of other cities.

1601
02:35:29,900 --> 02:35:32,960
And this is, I got a report, where's that report?

1602
02:35:33,760 --> 02:35:35,920
And I'm going to tell you all these cities and you tell me where,

1603
02:35:36,360 --> 02:35:40,800
so I know South Pasadena just updated their new trash,

1604
02:35:42,480 --> 02:35:44,620
monthly trash rate, because they just got a new,

1605
02:35:44,960 --> 02:35:46,880
every few years you have to sign a new contract.

1606
02:35:46,880 --> 02:35:56,140
The city of South Pasadena just signed a new trash contract, $71 a month, there's escalations

1607
02:35:56,140 --> 02:35:59,900
every month, I'm not going to get into that but that's going to be another $10 more.

1608
02:36:00,420 --> 02:36:07,720
So first month, $70, the city of San Marino just signed a trash contract, $58 a month.

1609
02:36:08,120 --> 02:36:14,860
Again, escalations all the way up, $75, $85, $95, in future months.

1610
02:36:32,500 --> 02:36:33,900
Ontario.

1611
02:36:34,960 --> 02:36:35,300
is

1612
02:36:35,300 --> 02:36:42,060
are on the bottom three and we just signed a new contract. The two cities that

1613
02:36:42,060 --> 02:36:46,680
slightly below us, and I'm going to give them props, right? Our hamburger is

1614
02:36:46,680 --> 02:36:52,680
paying $30 a month, rose meat is paying $26 a month, but guess what? Their

1615
02:36:52,680 --> 02:36:57,200
contract is up soon in the year or two. Guess what that rate is going to be?

1616
02:37:00,150 --> 02:37:00,610
It

1617
02:37:00,610 --> 02:37:07,250
is not going to be $35 or $40. We will see that number and then we will report

1618
02:37:07,250 --> 02:37:12,310
that number if you guys come to the next meeting so that's kind of where we are with the refuse contract

1619
02:37:12,310 --> 02:37:18,390
okay that was my that was my third point I just want to again be factual and set up set up where we are

1620
02:37:18,390 --> 02:37:31,430
today uh the rubbish fee of $34.69 not all of that is going to where where is charging is $29.99

1621
02:37:31,430 --> 02:37:36,650
plus another is it a buck 10 for the escalation, right?

1622
02:37:37,390 --> 02:37:41,010
The $3.50 actually comes back to the city.

1623
02:37:41,770 --> 02:37:44,730
So that's a city can put that into general fun.

1624
02:37:45,130 --> 02:37:49,110
It's really for roads and streets to make sure we maintain the city.

1625
02:37:49,870 --> 02:37:53,790
So I just want to make sure we understand all of that.

1626
02:37:54,530 --> 02:37:58,890
Okay. No one wants to pay more, but I understand that.

1627
02:37:58,890 --> 02:38:00,330
because I also work a full time job.

1628
02:38:00,490 --> 02:38:03,170
Somebody asked, well, you must be making a lot of money for city.

1629
02:38:03,510 --> 02:38:06,150
The city council gets paid $500 a month.

1630
02:38:07,990 --> 02:38:13,810
Most, if not all of us, donate more than that amount of money back into our libraries and our schools.

1631
02:38:14,830 --> 02:38:18,130
We're doing this because we care for the city, that's the bottom line.

1632
02:38:18,930 --> 02:38:22,810
And I'm going to actually open this up for comments from the rest of my city council members

1633
02:38:23,350 --> 02:38:27,110
so that they get a chance to kind of walk in here and have the discussion.

1634
02:38:28,890 --> 02:38:30,110
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1635
02:38:31,210 --> 02:38:36,170
For the staff, I'm wondering if we can take a quick step back in terms of,

1636
02:38:36,170 --> 02:38:43,470
I think there is a lot of lack of understanding and just misconceptions about what we're talking about specifically tonight in terms of the franchise fee.

1637
02:38:44,070 --> 02:38:48,750
Can you just talk high level what a franchise fee is and what the purpose of charging that is?

1638
02:38:48,750 --> 02:38:49,690
So

1639
02:38:53,370 --> 02:39:00,490
the city completed a franchise fee study that looked at costs that the city could recover for

1640
02:39:02,150 --> 02:39:05,630
administering a solid waste franchise or solid waste services.

1641
02:39:05,830 --> 02:39:07,890
So the study looked at three different categories.

1642
02:39:08,390 --> 02:39:12,650
That includes the city's cost for the management and administration of the franchise agreements.

1643
02:39:13,370 --> 02:39:19,130
So that includes salary and benefits for city staff that are overseeing solid waste programs.

1644
02:39:19,130 --> 02:39:23,690
It also included charges for the use of the public right of way.

1645
02:39:23,950 --> 02:39:27,730
So for setting out carts and containers out into the street.

1646
02:39:28,230 --> 02:39:35,210
The study also looked at costs associated with pavement impacts, the use of the roads for the collection of trash.

1647
02:39:35,470 --> 02:39:42,510
But as we previously stated, those costs because the recent case law were excluded from the rates that are being considered today.

1648
02:39:42,510 --> 02:39:49,470
Okay, so the franchise fees that are being proposed are fees to recover city costs for

1649
02:39:49,990 --> 02:39:52,010
solid waste programs.

1650
02:39:52,010 --> 02:39:55,970
It's not going to wear disposal and it would go back.

1651
02:39:56,130 --> 02:40:01,030
It would be deposited to our Refuse Underpriced Fund, not General Fund, to declare.

1652
02:40:01,310 --> 02:40:02,730
So just to be clear, good.

1653
02:40:02,970 --> 02:40:05,510
I was going to tag team on those comments, all of which are correct.

1654
02:40:05,870 --> 02:40:11,530
I should point out that there have been an addition to the pellet case that just came down past 45 days.

1655
02:40:11,530 --> 02:40:21,050
There's also been a California Supreme Court case decision that has changed the way that all franchise fees in the state of California have to be calculated.

1656
02:40:21,510 --> 02:40:36,910
One of the reasons that we've performed the study and have gone through this process is precisely because in reaction to that California's Supreme Court case, historically most public entities have simply applied a 10% franchise fee to all gross revenue received from solid waste.

1657
02:40:36,910 --> 02:40:46,290
people have been paying that for years for all jurisdictions that have solid waste, or most I should say I shouldn't say all, those with franchise fees.

1658
02:40:46,890 --> 02:40:57,130
And that as the California Supreme Court's properly recognized is simply unsupportable based upon prop to 18 case law and the original intent of the voters.

1659
02:40:57,370 --> 02:41:03,310
There needs to be a reasonable relationship between the cost being collected from the rate payers.

1660
02:41:03,310 --> 02:41:10,030
And I'm sorry, the amount being collected from repairs as opposed to the cost being incurred

1661
02:41:10,030 --> 02:41:11,450
by public entities.

1662
02:41:11,730 --> 02:41:14,990
And so that is one of the reasons that we are going through this exercise.

1663
02:41:14,990 --> 02:41:20,550
Again, it used to be, most of my career, it was simply each franchise agreement with state

1664
02:41:20,550 --> 02:41:25,430
that the franchisee would pay the public entity 10 percent of its gross revenue,

1665
02:41:25,610 --> 02:41:28,830
and that was the franchise fee for the privilege of operating within the jurisdiction.

1666
02:41:28,830 --> 02:41:57,950
So in plain English, correctly if I'm wrong in characterizing this way, franchise fees in this case and in most cases is to cover the costs of managing and providing these trash services in this case, the service to residents and businesses in the city, these costs, these costs exist whether they're through the franchise, whether they're paid for one way or another, they have to happen in the city has to incur these costs to

1667
02:41:57,950 --> 02:42:02,070
to have trash, have it trafficked to have it.

1668
02:42:02,190 --> 02:42:06,850
Correct. The costs are paid for either through the general fund, through taxpayers in general,

1669
02:42:07,650 --> 02:42:11,610
or they're paid for by the ratepayers that specifically pay for these services.

1670
02:42:12,370 --> 02:42:17,310
So these are costs that are borne either, if we don't charge this franchise fee, that means

1671
02:42:18,230 --> 02:42:25,470
the general fund essentially subsidizes the cost of every customer that has trash pick up in the city.

1672
02:42:25,470 --> 02:42:31,670
that's residents and businesses, everyone else, we socialize that cost among our general

1673
02:42:31,670 --> 02:42:35,130
fund instead of by people that actually use the service.

1674
02:42:35,530 --> 02:42:35,790
That's correct.

1675
02:42:36,550 --> 02:42:42,350
I mean, I will even throw in there that we actually had a right to charge the fee back

1676
02:42:42,350 --> 02:42:51,390
last September, but because you didn't want that heavy load another five bucks or 350 into

1677
02:42:51,390 --> 02:42:54,830
to the 29, you kind of held it back for a year.

1678
02:42:55,110 --> 02:42:55,950
And now here we are.

1679
02:42:56,550 --> 02:42:58,670
I mean, at the end of the day, the way I look at this

1680
02:42:58,670 --> 02:43:01,390
from a number standpoint is, you know,

1681
02:43:01,470 --> 02:43:05,150
we have about 18,000 homes who are going through this contract.

1682
02:43:05,750 --> 02:43:07,670
And if you increase it by $3,050,

1683
02:43:08,910 --> 02:43:12,350
that's about 63,000 a year.

1684
02:43:12,530 --> 02:43:13,570
You round it off times 12.

1685
02:43:14,130 --> 02:43:20,090
That's about $750,000 that the city is paying for the people

1686
02:43:20,090 --> 02:43:29,150
People who are actually paying the trash bill, if we increase this rate, you get to use that $750,000 with the city's general fund to use it for other purposes.

1687
02:43:31,840 --> 02:43:33,680
Yes, I agree.

1688
02:43:34,540 --> 02:43:45,760
My next question is in the city attorney area alluded to this, just about everyone that provides trash service, every city in California has a franchise fee, is that fair to say?

1689
02:43:45,760 --> 02:43:45,820
Okay.

1690
02:43:47,880 --> 02:43:52,200
That's fair to say except for those jurisdictions that provide solid waste services directly

1691
02:43:52,200 --> 02:43:52,480
in.

1692
02:43:54,020 --> 02:43:56,840
In which case they would probably recover those costs directly through rates.

1693
02:43:57,340 --> 02:44:01,060
In which case correct, the costs would be collected through the actual rates.

1694
02:44:02,740 --> 02:44:07,040
And then just to confirm, Carl, I know you've already said it, but I know it's come up a lot,

1695
02:44:07,580 --> 02:44:11,040
it came up a lot during the comment just to confirm, yes or no.

1696
02:44:11,480 --> 02:44:16,860
We followed the Prop 218 and the State requirements in terms of this Prop 218 process and the ballot

1697
02:44:16,860 --> 02:44:20,820
process. Based upon the information I have sitting here today, yes.

1698
02:44:21,720 --> 02:44:29,620
And then just in terms of how this is implemented, if we approve, well, one, appreciate staff taking

1699
02:44:29,620 --> 02:44:35,840
our direction by the council out of our discussion in May around this alternative franchise fees

1700
02:44:35,840 --> 02:44:39,680
that's proposed here. One, I would not support anything beyond the

1701
02:44:39,680 --> 02:44:43,540
alternative franchise fee, which is a lower amount that's proposed in the staff report.

1702
02:44:43,540 --> 02:44:52,080
So I'll just make that clear, but I appreciate staff putting the calculation together and putting that forward in front of us for consideration.

1703
02:44:53,260 --> 02:44:59,520
If we approve the franchise fee as proposed, the alternative franchise fee is there.

1704
02:45:00,460 --> 02:45:16,420
The ability for the council to phase in these fees in a different way, say, saying for 75% or 50% of the maximum fee that we're approving today over the first year, and then the remainder of the second year or some other kind of schedule for implementing this or phasing it in.

1705
02:45:28,080 --> 02:45:28,560
Mr.

1706
02:45:28,560 --> 02:45:31,800
completely accurate from the standpoint of, you don't have to adopt any fee.

1707
02:45:32,440 --> 02:45:35,460
If you choose to adopt a fee, you may adopt an even lower fee.

1708
02:45:35,700 --> 02:45:41,060
If you want to implement it through a phased procedure, that's up to you as well.

1709
02:45:41,280 --> 02:45:42,640
It's completely within your discretion.

1710
02:45:43,120 --> 02:45:48,260
As long as you don't go above a maximum cap that the study is identified as being the maximum cost.

1711
02:45:49,900 --> 02:45:50,560
Thank you.

1712
02:45:50,960 --> 02:45:53,600
And the mayor answered actually a lot of the other questions I had.

1713
02:45:53,600 --> 02:45:59,020
I just want to again appreciate everyone that showed up, I know folks that a few folks have to take off as well

1714
02:45:59,020 --> 02:46:04,640
I know it's getting a little late, but I just want to emphasize how we are also sensitive.

1715
02:46:04,880 --> 02:46:07,160
I'm very sensitive to these cost increases.

1716
02:46:07,460 --> 02:46:09,980
We're human beings and we're residents of the city as well.

1717
02:46:10,220 --> 02:46:15,100
We all pay these same rates and these fees not only for trash, for water, for everything.

1718
02:46:15,380 --> 02:46:19,920
I is not going to notice how much my bill as well has gone up.

1719
02:46:19,920 --> 02:46:24,900
I pay this stuff too, and there's at least one member of the council that pays for a business as well

1720
02:46:24,900 --> 02:46:27,700
And so it pays more than double duty in that sense

1721
02:46:28,880 --> 02:46:30,760
This is not something I take lightly

1722
02:46:30,760 --> 02:46:34,060
I don't think anyone on this council takes lightly in terms of increasing costs

1723
02:46:34,660 --> 02:46:36,880
To residents and to businesses in the city

1724
02:46:36,880 --> 02:46:40,240
We don't if it were up to me, of course I don't want to do this

1725
02:46:40,960 --> 02:46:42,380
I don't want to make things more expensive

1726
02:46:42,380 --> 02:46:46,120
I don't want to make I don't I'd love to give everyone a break and cut

1727
02:46:46,120 --> 02:46:54,480
But fees and taxes if we could, but we're balancing this with the need to provide services in the community for the community.

1728
02:46:54,640 --> 02:47:00,780
We heard today from people about recreation facilities in the city that are in dire need of investment.

1729
02:47:01,000 --> 02:47:02,840
There are so many other needs as well.

1730
02:47:03,420 --> 02:47:08,340
This is not the only 218 process we've gone through in the city because we've had to catch up and

1731
02:47:08,340 --> 02:47:11,700
make a lot of investments in our streets and I hope people have noticed,

1732
02:47:11,700 --> 02:47:16,920
This residents have noticed the continuing improvement in the state of some of our streets

1733
02:47:16,920 --> 02:47:22,040
are still long ways to go, but our streets are water infrastructure, a lot of public

1734
02:47:22,040 --> 02:47:27,060
infrastructure that needs investment, and a lot of community and public services that

1735
02:47:27,060 --> 02:47:34,040
also need, right, we got to pay our people, city hall, our facilities need to be upgraded and

1736
02:47:34,040 --> 02:47:38,680
brought to code and brought to a point of being able to continue to serve the community.

1737
02:47:38,680 --> 02:47:45,660
So I just want to be clear that that's what we're balancing here on the council and includes what we're talking about here in terms of

1738
02:47:46,380 --> 02:47:47,720
the cost for

1739
02:47:49,200 --> 02:47:56,180
trash pickup, right? And I think I would characterize trash pickup as an essential utility if the trash is not picked up for a long enough time

1740
02:47:56,180 --> 02:47:59,480
I we're going to be in a lot of trouble in the city. It's to make sure

1741
02:48:00,440 --> 02:48:02,880
this service continues and that the city is

1742
02:48:02,880 --> 02:48:07,600
is allocating the costs of trash pick up and recycling

1743
02:48:07,600 --> 02:48:12,160
and refuge services in the city properly.

1744
02:48:12,440 --> 02:48:16,820
And in my mind, the most fair and effective

1745
02:48:16,820 --> 02:48:19,020
and efficient way to allocate those costs,

1746
02:48:19,280 --> 02:48:21,640
including these costs that the city has to bear

1747
02:48:22,060 --> 02:48:25,400
to manage this contract with wear and Athens

1748
02:48:26,380 --> 02:48:28,900
for our two incumbent trash haulers for the city.

1749
02:48:28,900 --> 02:48:43,380
And to make sure that these services are provided at a level of service that the community desires and expects from the city and from our trash providers, these costs have to happen.

1750
02:48:43,740 --> 02:48:58,560
It's a matter of how we charge them and it's not fair to me that it would fall on the general fund for everyone that pays into the general fund to pay that and to subsidize that cost for customers.

1751
02:48:58,560 --> 02:49:26,980
I think it belongs and I believe the responsibility is on the customers directly so the ratepayers and so the fairest way to do that is through a franchise fee and the way to do that is through this two 18 process which by my accounts and what I understand and through the staff report and the staff's work, which I appreciate has gotten us to this point so I would I understand and I don't want to anyone to think we don't take this light that we don't take this seriously.

1752
02:49:28,860 --> 02:49:42,420
If we increase these fees, almost as residents on this council, and the city staff as well that live in the city have to pay these increases as well, and I guarantee you, we're not getting a raise from the city to pay for these increased costs.

1753
02:49:44,440 --> 02:49:46,620
So it's not something I take lightly.

1754
02:49:47,280 --> 02:50:05,440
It's something I would love not to have to do, but the reality is for me and the way that I see it, these costs are happening and do happen and need to happen to make sure that the service in terms of trash pickup and refuse and recycling need to happen per state law and by the expectations of all of us in the community.

1755
02:50:05,440 --> 02:50:11,080
And this is the fairest way to do it, and the most responsible way to go about it.

1756
02:50:11,480 --> 02:50:35,020
But so I would support the alternative franchise fees at the level proposed under the alternative franchise fees in the staff report, but also as staff to bring back maybe at the next council meeting or as soon as reasonably as soon as it is reasonable for potential options to phase in the full costs or

1757
02:50:35,020 --> 02:50:38,780
If there are options, at least bring in some options for us to consider in terms of phasing in.

1758
02:50:39,200 --> 02:50:46,140
I also know that there are potential constitutional issues about this, but for other private utility services,

1759
02:50:46,580 --> 02:50:55,900
there are opportunities to institute low-income and need-based assistance programs.

1760
02:50:55,900 --> 02:51:01,840
If we can look and explore if there are opportunities to do that locally, or even negotiate with where,

1761
02:51:01,840 --> 02:51:26,720
I know we already have existing payment systems to be able to, or payment, pay that bill assistance programs that where can and does manage for customers and for public or in Athens, I believe, but if there are ways to offer subsidies for low income and other households in the city, let's explore that.

1762
02:51:26,720 --> 02:51:35,600
I also ask for us to look at ways to advocate at the state level for potential programs offset costs for low income and needy

1763
02:51:36,540 --> 02:51:40,460
Households just as we have done. I think we'll continue to do on the water side

1764
02:51:40,460 --> 02:51:41,400
to

1765
02:51:41,400 --> 02:51:46,200
See where we can offer some relief for those in our community that really do need it

1766
02:51:46,200 --> 02:51:51,920
And then are having a hard time for those on fixed incomes and seniors and low income families to be able to

1767
02:51:51,920 --> 02:52:04,920
that have programs that they can go to and we can do a better job on the city and as well to help promote these programs that might exist to offer bill assistance in bill forgiveness and payment programs that can help them spray out cost payments where they can.

1768
02:52:05,400 --> 02:52:19,620
So wherever we can, I'm sensitive and want to be cognizant and to the extent we can on the city side provide assistance so those in need that we're going to have a hard time affording not only trash bills going forward and

1769
02:52:19,620 --> 02:52:22,160
We're already having hard time, but also water and other utility bills.

1770
02:52:22,560 --> 02:52:26,880
Whatever we can do to rebuild our efforts to help communicate for

1771
02:52:26,880 --> 02:52:30,660
more of those resources to help families and households in need, but

1772
02:52:30,660 --> 02:52:32,980
also connect them to services that are existing.

1773
02:52:33,940 --> 02:52:38,340
Would ask that we and the staff look at opportunities and

1774
02:52:39,320 --> 02:52:42,240
bring some of those resources back into our community and

1775
02:52:42,240 --> 02:52:44,100
help make that information available.

1776
02:52:46,760 --> 02:52:51,380
Yes. Actually, I want to thank my colleague for asking a lot of good questions and responding

1777
02:52:51,380 --> 02:52:56,880
to all the comments and questions during the hearing. Actually, I can be very brief.

1778
02:52:57,820 --> 02:53:03,820
But again, just for audience in free, again, walk us through the process which, under perpetuating

1779
02:53:03,820 --> 02:53:08,260
which we informed the public about this process. I mean, again, besides mail, I mean, it was

1780
02:53:08,260 --> 02:53:12,720
We also posted right in our cascades, email,

1781
02:53:12,980 --> 02:53:14,380
right, in different languages, right, looking,

1782
02:53:14,700 --> 02:53:17,080
Spanish, Chinese, we can walk us through the process.

1783
02:53:17,420 --> 02:53:18,040
Again, please.

1784
02:53:19,120 --> 02:53:22,480
Sure, so the notice, which includes a protest ballot,

1785
02:53:22,520 --> 02:53:24,680
was meld out to all properties.

1786
02:53:25,480 --> 02:53:29,900
And we also included a notice of the public hearing of today's

1787
02:53:29,900 --> 02:53:32,840
public hearing date in our Monterey Press newspaper,

1788
02:53:33,380 --> 02:53:34,940
both on June 26th, thank you.

1789
02:53:34,940 --> 02:53:38,060
and July 3rd issues.

1790
02:53:38,480 --> 02:53:43,300
We also, like we always do, post our agendas with detailed information regarding the staff

1791
02:53:43,300 --> 02:53:47,020
report and the proposed rates that are being presented tonight.

1792
02:53:47,840 --> 02:53:51,400
And again, this is also in a different language, correct?

1793
02:53:52,140 --> 02:53:52,320
Yes.

1794
02:53:52,840 --> 02:53:56,540
The notice that has the ballot went out in three different languages.

1795
02:53:57,040 --> 02:53:57,620
Two different languages.

1796
02:53:57,800 --> 02:53:57,980
Three.

1797
02:53:58,220 --> 02:53:58,480
Three.

1798
02:53:58,960 --> 02:54:00,020
English, Spanish, and Chinese.

1799
02:54:00,440 --> 02:54:00,580
Okay.

1800
02:54:00,680 --> 02:54:01,700
English, Spanish, and Chinese.

1801
02:54:01,880 --> 02:54:02,020
Okay.

1802
02:54:02,020 --> 02:54:09,680
Okay. And again, I know Kaur already, you know, commented, but again, what was sent out,

1803
02:54:10,340 --> 02:54:15,380
specifically, did refer to refuse rates, right? I mean, I know the comment that Vellas were

1804
02:54:15,380 --> 02:54:20,880
confusing, but that is correct. Mr. Rammer, Mr. Counsel, what was meld out?

1805
02:54:20,940 --> 02:54:21,640
This was not correct.

1806
02:54:22,360 --> 02:54:29,660
The attachment to the May 7th meeting noticed the blue page, yes, that the blue page was

1807
02:54:29,660 --> 02:54:39,180
was attached to the May 7 agenda, what was mailed out was the refuse notice with the ballot

1808
02:54:39,180 --> 02:54:41,860
and that had all the correct information, correct?

1809
02:54:42,180 --> 02:54:42,660
That's not it.

1810
02:54:42,720 --> 02:54:42,960
Sure.

1811
02:54:43,500 --> 02:54:48,860
I do want, though, I would like to actually just follow as well, is that, again, I, so if

1812
02:54:48,860 --> 02:54:52,900
you're questioned, whether you're all directed to the clerk's office, if you're

1813
02:54:52,900 --> 02:54:55,900
questioned about the balloting, or whether you're all directed to clerk's office?

1814
02:54:55,900 --> 02:55:01,980
I believe that when we received questions, some of them were handled by the Crook's Office.

1815
02:55:02,120 --> 02:55:08,660
Some of them might have been handled by public work staff, depending on, you know, what were the call they're called or emailed.

1816
02:55:09,380 --> 02:55:12,560
But, yes, a combination of staff had responded to some of that.

1817
02:55:12,560 --> 02:55:18,360
I mean, it's only because, again, given that whoever picks up the phone, I mean, certainly, they represent the city.

1818
02:55:18,520 --> 02:55:24,300
And I would hope that staff did not mislead or give both information.

1819
02:55:24,300 --> 02:55:27,060
And if they did, then I think that speaks to, you know,

1820
02:55:27,200 --> 02:55:28,800
whoever has a phone, especially when we have

1821
02:55:28,800 --> 02:55:32,120
processes like this, I expect and hope that, you know,

1822
02:55:32,220 --> 02:55:34,200
there's a walkthrough of how to respond

1823
02:55:34,200 --> 02:55:38,220
and how to direct constituents.

1824
02:55:38,580 --> 02:55:41,300
Because again, after any misinformation at the end of the day,

1825
02:55:41,500 --> 02:55:44,540
we hear it, you know, because we have elected representatives.

1826
02:55:45,540 --> 02:55:50,820
Further, I, you know, some of the folks who came up

1827
02:55:50,820 --> 02:55:54,160
and spoke, you know, did speak about the,

1828
02:55:54,260 --> 02:55:56,220
and I realize it's nice to discuss it about the roughness,

1829
02:55:56,300 --> 02:55:57,480
but they did bring up some, I think,

1830
02:55:57,520 --> 02:56:02,740
important issue regarding the tradition of where

1831
02:56:02,740 --> 02:56:05,020
and also customer service.

1832
02:56:05,500 --> 02:56:07,640
And I think that I would even like at some point,

1833
02:56:07,780 --> 02:56:09,400
perhaps I could have where come back

1834
02:56:09,860 --> 02:56:12,220
and just give us an update so that we can also talk about,

1835
02:56:12,300 --> 02:56:14,380
because I mean, I mean, well,

1836
02:56:16,740 --> 02:56:18,120
again, in my own district, you know,

1837
02:56:18,240 --> 02:56:21,400
I've had constituent who live,

1838
02:56:21,400 --> 02:56:27,260
And I'll give anecdotally that gave examples where apparently and again maybe for a few months and maybe it's been fixed

1839
02:56:27,260 --> 02:56:33,660
But nonetheless it speaks to I think where people's frustration is that we've had people who reached up to me saying that they don't they live in a condo

1840
02:56:33,660 --> 02:56:41,460
And apparently that where a person didn't have to write remote so left didn't pick up the the canister over the weekend or

1841
02:56:41,460 --> 02:56:46,320
Made some comments that well the track but it's empty and I guess I don't have to pick it up

1842
02:56:46,320 --> 02:56:49,460
I mean, I don't care if there's only one gallon of milk

1843
02:56:49,460 --> 02:56:55,020
If it's trash, it's trash day, and so, and again, there's less of a now, probably part of the tradition.

1844
02:56:55,220 --> 02:57:00,640
However, I do want to make sure that, number one, that is not the attitude of where

1845
02:57:00,640 --> 02:57:07,560
step number two, that I would also like an update as far as I'm, how are they, if someone

1846
02:57:07,560 --> 02:57:12,860
does email, or makes a phone call, what does it turn around time, is it one day, is it ten

1847
02:57:12,860 --> 02:57:17,740
days, and is it in language, I would like to make sure that that is addressed as well.

1848
02:57:17,740 --> 02:57:21,580
No. No, I didn't, Mr. Mayor, members of the council will definitely follow up with

1849
02:57:21,580 --> 02:57:25,100
where on some of the current concerns that we heard tonight. I do know that our city

1850
02:57:25,100 --> 02:57:30,820
staff meets with where regularly and provides the comments that we received from the public

1851
02:57:30,820 --> 02:57:36,960
and feedback. We can definitely ask where to be at a future council meeting to provide an

1852
02:57:36,960 --> 02:57:38,960
update to the council and the committee directly.

1853
02:57:39,580 --> 02:57:39,820
Thank you.

1854
02:57:41,320 --> 02:57:46,900
All right, so I wanted to appreciate everyone for coming out and expressing their opinions

1855
02:57:46,900 --> 02:57:51,680
and concerns today and also acknowledge my colleagues for answering a lot of the questions already.

1856
02:57:52,580 --> 02:57:59,240
So like presented, I think it was a very difficult decision last year regarding where in Athens,

1857
02:57:59,560 --> 02:58:06,200
I wasn't on council yet, but I watched the council meeting and when I was canvassing the city,

1858
02:58:07,020 --> 02:58:12,060
a lot of residents were complaining to me about how difficult the transition from Athens to where

1859
02:58:12,060 --> 02:58:17,580
was the changes, but there was not a single resident who, when I asked, would you prefer

1860
02:58:17,580 --> 02:58:22,060
to pay the increased price or go through these changes that they told me they wanted to

1861
02:58:22,060 --> 02:58:27,740
pay increased pricing? So I think despite everyone's complaints about changes, because changes

1862
02:58:27,740 --> 02:58:33,340
are always difficult, I think the council last year did make the correct decision in representing

1863
02:58:33,340 --> 02:58:37,820
the residents, you know, what they would have preferred, because no one would have wanted

1864
02:58:37,820 --> 02:58:39,840
to pay more than what they're currently paying.

1865
02:58:41,160 --> 02:58:48,040
In regards to the two blue papers that one of the speakers gave us, which one is the incorrect one?

1866
02:58:49,300 --> 02:58:49,980
They're both incorrect?

1867
02:58:51,840 --> 02:58:56,780
So this one that says water customers, this was not given to the residents.

1868
02:59:00,440 --> 02:59:09,020
Mr. Mayor, members of the council, the blue page that has water customers, that was attached

1869
02:59:09,020 --> 02:59:15,980
to this staff report in May as a draft notice for the Prop 218 process, but that was not

1870
02:59:15,980 --> 02:59:17,180
the copy that was mailed out.

1871
02:59:17,780 --> 02:59:21,920
The copy that was mailed out was corrected, it had the refuse information on it.

1872
02:59:21,920 --> 02:59:31,800
Okay, and then what about the second-page resolution number 11647, page 4 of 6, section 7F, which is an arrow to it?

1873
02:59:32,480 --> 02:59:34,360
This is a reference to the staff report.

1874
02:59:35,120 --> 02:59:39,920
Oh, sorry, this is a reference to the resolution that was adopted in 2014.

1875
02:59:41,040 --> 02:59:48,060
Okay, so the one that's in the vendor property owner loses or misplaced as a protest ballot, the city needs to provide a replacement?

1876
02:59:58,240 --> 02:59:59,780
because I, my under

1877
03:00:00,180 --> 03:00:29,140
My understanding was that there was not even a requirement to send out a protest ballot. Correct. Correct. Do you want me to read that section? Yeah. Okay. In the event, a property owner loses or misplaces a protest ballot upon request by that property owner, the city will provide a replacement protest ballot unless a property, sorry, unless a property filled out protest ballot has already been received for the parcel of the property. Okay. And so I believe.

1878
03:00:29,140 --> 03:00:41,180
The staff has already confirmed that all of the pieces of mail in the ballots were sent out to all the property owners May 30th with 45 days notice.

1879
03:00:41,920 --> 03:00:52,140
But since there are residents here claiming either they accidentally threw it away or didn't receive it, even though we have proof of providing it and mailing it to them.

1880
03:00:53,220 --> 03:00:58,620
And, you know, I heard some of our residents like Vivian and Mike say, you know, if they

1881
03:00:59,460 --> 03:01:05,360
extended it for another period of time to give more opportunities for objection, even

1882
03:01:05,360 --> 03:01:09,620
though I really don't think that, you know, $88,000 is a lot.

1883
03:01:09,900 --> 03:01:16,200
So we can extend it for a few weeks, but it's going to be very difficult to get $8,000.

1884
03:01:16,520 --> 03:01:21,600
But just to appease, you know, the residents and give more time for those who might want

1885
03:01:21,600 --> 03:01:28,480
I want to send them in, I would not, I would be okay extending it to provide more time for protests.

1886
03:01:33,940 --> 03:01:39,080
I don't think, I personally don't think it's necessary to extend.

1887
03:01:39,720 --> 03:01:48,000
I'm ready to support the staff reundition for the alternative rate that's been proposed tonight.

1888
03:01:48,240 --> 03:01:52,900
And then I think bring back for staff can bring back options in terms of potentially facing in.

1889
03:01:52,900 --> 03:01:58,260
These costs, what I've heard tonight from residents, is I think the core concern is really about

1890
03:01:58,860 --> 03:02:02,980
affording the rate increase. I understand there are some, I think,

1891
03:02:03,140 --> 03:02:07,620
relatively minor concerns around the process and the ballots, and

1892
03:02:08,720 --> 03:02:10,440
whether we're supposed to have

1893
03:02:12,080 --> 03:02:17,700
replacement ballots ready and all that stuff. I hope that and I would expect staff to look into that and

1894
03:02:18,360 --> 03:02:22,540
our process in general around Prop. 18 and how we administer the

1895
03:02:22,900 --> 03:02:49,260
The process for 218 going forward, and I think very clear to staff we need to let's, if there are things, if there are things we need to clean up about this process, I know we don't do them necessarily every year, but let's make sure that we clean up any of these processes and any updates the state law that we need to integrate into our resolutions in our process for administering prop 218, let's do that and bring that to council.

1896
03:02:49,960 --> 03:02:51,920
I'm ready to go on this.

1897
03:02:52,420 --> 03:03:00,140
I don't know how I do anticipate given concerns that were laid out tonight and by written

1898
03:03:00,140 --> 03:03:04,900
communication that we're hearing today and that we've seen in our emails.

1899
03:03:05,920 --> 03:03:12,460
I don't see, I think the core concern I'm seeing is around approving these rate increases

1900
03:03:12,460 --> 03:03:19,580
is at all and that's just not, that will not change unless we get to 8,000 votes, which

1901
03:03:19,580 --> 03:03:20,260
I don't see.

1902
03:03:21,400 --> 03:03:21,460
Right.

1903
03:03:21,840 --> 03:03:23,600
These, I think this needs to happen.

1904
03:03:23,960 --> 03:03:28,060
These costs are being borne by the city and by everyone right now through the general

1905
03:03:28,060 --> 03:03:28,320
fund.

1906
03:03:29,020 --> 03:03:30,160
I don't think that's the right allocation.

1907
03:03:30,540 --> 03:03:35,840
I think we need to move forward with the franchise fee sooner than later so that we can make

1908
03:03:35,840 --> 03:03:40,300
sure we're allocating those costs in the right way to customers directly who are benefiting

1909
03:03:40,300 --> 03:03:41,060
from the service.

1910
03:03:41,060 --> 03:03:43,400
not the general fund subsidizing that.

1911
03:03:47,070 --> 03:03:52,650
Again, just for my edification, again, everything will listen to on May 30th, correct?

1912
03:03:53,970 --> 03:03:56,410
Yes, millions per cent on May 30th.

1913
03:03:57,090 --> 03:04:02,350
And Mr. Mayor, members of the Council noted, understand the direction from Council on Prop.

1914
03:04:02,510 --> 03:04:09,650
18 for future processes to ensure that there's replacement ballots in modern requests and we can

1915
03:04:09,650 --> 03:04:11,090
definitely make adjustments as needed.

1916
03:04:11,090 --> 03:04:19,400
My understanding is that the rates are not going to be increased until after September 1st, right?

1917
03:04:19,620 --> 03:04:29,320
So, if we did extend it for two weeks, that wouldn't make a difference in terms of us getting the money to paid by September 1st.

1918
03:04:31,420 --> 03:04:38,020
That is correct. The fee is in schedule to be in place September 1st.

1919
03:04:39,420 --> 03:04:45,460
I guess then the question is administratively can they change the bills in time if we push

1920
03:04:45,460 --> 03:04:51,080
this out for if we do it two weeks or three weeks or four weeks will they administrative

1921
03:04:52,440 --> 03:04:55,380
administratively have enough time to change the building cycle?

1922
03:04:56,100 --> 03:04:58,700
I guess that's the part where I think that's where you're going.

1923
03:04:58,880 --> 03:04:59,020
Yeah.

1924
03:05:01,480 --> 03:05:07,400
We can definitely check in with where on that question if the fee is adopted tonight and

1925
03:05:07,400 --> 03:05:12,760
When we're bringing back, as council member Wong mentioned, a phased in approach when

1926
03:05:12,760 --> 03:05:20,060
we come back with the percentages of adoption for year one, if it's phased in year two and

1927
03:05:20,060 --> 03:05:20,840
so on and so on.

1928
03:05:20,940 --> 03:05:23,920
If that's the council's direction, we could look into that as well.

1929
03:05:28,030 --> 03:05:34,630
Just so I'm clear, so what I'm thinking of hearing is that a discussion of phased approach,

1930
03:05:34,630 --> 03:05:41,370
the alternative rate that's proposed on the staff, as well as a extension of the common period?

1931
03:05:41,650 --> 03:05:42,350
Is that what I'm hearing?

1932
03:05:42,930 --> 03:05:45,750
An extension of time for them to mail pro-taff.

1933
03:05:45,750 --> 03:05:47,090
Yeah, those are your two options right now.

1934
03:05:47,370 --> 03:05:50,190
The two options being floated right now, and you guys need to decide.

1935
03:05:52,690 --> 03:05:53,890
I'm waiting for motions.

1936
03:05:54,310 --> 03:05:58,350
Yeah, I'm happy to make a motion to adopt staff or a foundation around the alternative.

1937
03:05:58,350 --> 03:06:17,670
I'll turn it franchise fee as proposed in the staff report and for staff to bring back options in terms of phasing it up to that maximum alternative proposed franchise fee for whatever that's reasonable to bring back to council before in the next whatever couple of council meetings.

1938
03:06:20,010 --> 03:06:26,090
I would make an alternative motion to give the residents two more weeks this and back the protest.

1939
03:06:26,090 --> 03:06:26,310
us.

1940
03:06:30,030 --> 03:06:35,410
So those are two, those are two different motions. We need to-

1941
03:06:35,410 --> 03:06:40,450
Is there a difference? Two weeks or four weeks? Is that a difference?

1942
03:06:42,710 --> 03:06:44,110
In terms of whether

1943
03:06:44,110 --> 03:06:49,010
we can implement it if we don't get enough protest votes. But if you get enough protest

1944
03:06:49,010 --> 03:06:53,130
votes then this thing goes away. Yeah, yeah. If we don't get enough, then-

1945
03:06:53,130 --> 03:06:59,610
So let me do this way, because we got to go to the procedure.

1946
03:07:01,210 --> 03:07:02,570
Do I have a motion?

1947
03:07:02,890 --> 03:07:05,290
What is the motion? Do I have a second and then we'll vote on that?

1948
03:07:05,470 --> 03:07:09,690
And then if we don't have that process, then we'll go to a second motion and then we'll vote on that.

1949
03:07:10,910 --> 03:07:14,450
So I'm going to start over here to my left for this left.

1950
03:07:15,150 --> 03:07:17,310
Do I have a motion? And I think I heard something.

1951
03:07:17,310 --> 03:07:22,590
If you come along and you repeat that motion, yeah, I'll make the motion to adopt staff

1952
03:07:22,590 --> 03:07:29,530
orientation for the alternate proposed franchise fee, the lower amount that's been detailed

1953
03:07:29,530 --> 03:07:36,330
by staff with the additional direction for staff to bring back options for phasing in

1954
03:07:36,330 --> 03:07:40,450
up to that maximum alternative over a period of time.

1955
03:07:44,720 --> 03:07:45,560
That's a motion.

1956
03:07:45,720 --> 03:07:46,380
Do I hear a second?

1957
03:07:51,870 --> 03:07:53,550
So I do not hear a second.

1958
03:07:54,570 --> 03:07:56,450
So that motion is...

1959
03:07:56,450 --> 03:07:58,390
Well, so there's no second.

1960
03:07:58,890 --> 03:08:05,490
I'd also note that, if we call a quick question, this requirement would, or it requires

1961
03:08:06,090 --> 03:08:07,090
how many votes to pass.

1962
03:08:08,290 --> 03:08:11,370
This one is a regular ordinance, it's a simple majority.

1963
03:08:13,230 --> 03:08:15,830
Well, actually, I'm sorry, it's three affirmative votes.

1964
03:08:16,630 --> 03:08:23,530
Okay. So do I have a different motion? I heard a different motion so you can go ahead

1965
03:08:23,530 --> 03:08:27,430
and make that motion. So actually before I make my motion I just wanted to ask that

1966
03:08:27,430 --> 03:08:31,530
if there's a difference if we do two weeks or four weeks if that's going to affect the

1967
03:08:31,530 --> 03:08:38,850
administrative process. I think from a practical matter, the two, the four weeks puts us closer

1968
03:08:38,850 --> 03:08:43,730
to the September 1st new rate, potentially new rate, right?

1969
03:08:44,410 --> 03:08:48,970
So we're giving less time for where also to prep their billing.

1970
03:08:49,610 --> 03:08:59,690
So practically speaking, I think the next council meeting is probably more practical for us to still ensure that the rate is increased September 1st.

1971
03:09:01,530 --> 03:09:05,790
So if it's four weeks, it would be August 20th, right?

1972
03:09:05,790 --> 03:09:11,370
Okay, and that would be way before ten days before September 1st, so that's not enough time.

1973
03:09:13,590 --> 03:09:16,890
Okay, so I'll make a motion for two weeks' extension.

1974
03:09:17,410 --> 03:09:22,670
Okay, so we have a motion for from Pro Tem Yang for eight.

1975
03:09:22,970 --> 03:09:25,710
I'm sorry, I just picked clarification, Mr. Ray, members of the council.

1976
03:09:26,830 --> 03:09:32,150
I understand most of the time we are here every other week, but in this situation, if you

1977
03:09:32,150 --> 03:09:34,850
say two weeks, we're not here that week.

1978
03:09:34,850 --> 03:09:37,930
So August 6th is that we're asking for clarification.

1979
03:09:37,930 --> 03:09:39,470
Do you mean at the August 6th meeting?

1980
03:09:41,030 --> 03:09:41,510
Correct.

1981
03:09:41,770 --> 03:09:42,430
On the 6th.

1982
03:09:42,610 --> 03:09:42,650
Correct.

1983
03:09:42,790 --> 03:09:45,630
And that would give 30-60.

1984
03:09:45,750 --> 03:09:53,870
That would be giving 80 days, approximately 80 days notice, not 45 days, but from May 30th.

1985
03:09:53,890 --> 03:09:57,650
It's still two weeks because we-

1986
03:09:57,650 --> 03:09:58,410
No, from May 30th.

1987
03:09:58,670 --> 03:09:59,370
Original 40.

1988
03:09:59,370 --> 03:10:04,430
Yeah, because the requirements 45 days, which we've already met, but now we're giving 80 days.

1989
03:10:04,930 --> 03:10:07,670
for the protests, if I'm doing my math correctly.

1990
03:10:07,910 --> 03:10:13,270
For me from May 30th, and to August 6th.

1991
03:10:13,270 --> 03:10:13,630
To August.

1992
03:10:14,290 --> 03:10:17,650
Well, okay, if our meeting is August 6th,

1993
03:10:17,670 --> 03:10:20,490
we need to close it out by July 30th,

1994
03:10:20,670 --> 03:10:23,610
because don't we have to do that because for-

1995
03:10:23,610 --> 03:10:25,030
That this was going to be my question

1996
03:10:25,030 --> 03:10:26,230
for matters of clarification.

1997
03:10:26,730 --> 03:10:29,230
So as I understand the motion, the desire

1998
03:10:29,230 --> 03:10:33,670
is to lead the protest period open until August 6th,

1999
03:10:33,670 --> 03:10:43,050
which means that we need to reopen the public hearing that you've closed and continue it to August 6th, which is a date certain so that we can continue receiving protest votes.

2000
03:10:43,890 --> 03:10:45,110
I think that's the motion.

2001
03:10:45,350 --> 03:10:50,210
Yes, you continue to protest here, which is to allow it to extend it for three more weeks, not two more.

2002
03:10:51,270 --> 03:10:53,550
It's to August 6th, you can date certain.

2003
03:10:53,910 --> 03:10:54,050
Okay,

2004
03:10:57,550 --> 03:10:59,530
so that's the motion.

2005
03:11:04,130 --> 03:11:12,670
do I hear a second? Seconded by Council Member Low. Okay. Any other discussions?

2006
03:11:14,510 --> 03:11:15,550
Then let's take a vote.

2007
03:11:25,550 --> 03:11:31,150
Mayor Goh, approved. Mayor Pro Tem Yang, approved. Council Member

2008
03:11:31,150 --> 03:11:37,890
Low, approved. Council Member Wong, Appstein. Did I do that right? Okay, so we have a three

2009
03:11:37,890 --> 03:11:47,240
is that enough for this? It is a majority. Okay, so we have pushed this out for three

2010
03:11:47,240 --> 03:11:49,960
weeks. Do I have to open the? Yes, please.

2011
03:11:50,220 --> 03:11:57,760
So I'm going to open back up the discussion on 10 A. The public hearing.

2012
03:11:58,000 --> 03:12:03,580
The public hearing on 10 A and we're going to continue this to August 6th. Yes. And just

2013
03:12:03,580 --> 03:12:09,340
Just a point of clarification, there are many speakers here tonight, is it the council's

2014
03:12:09,340 --> 03:12:13,440
will to hear the same speakers or only to hear new speakers?

2015
03:12:13,720 --> 03:12:18,360
This is a public hearing, which ordinarily under your rules, you have one bite at the apple

2016
03:12:18,360 --> 03:12:20,340
in terms of speaking during a public hearing.

2017
03:12:20,820 --> 03:12:24,680
And it's totally up to you if you want to change those rules, you're able to do that, but

2018
03:12:24,680 --> 03:12:28,520
just so that folks in the audience know what the rules are moving forward and we're not

2019
03:12:28,520 --> 03:12:29,840
surprised on August 6th.

2020
03:12:29,840 --> 03:12:36,040
So we have to keep the rule of law, which is if they spoke one by the apple, that's it.

2021
03:12:36,580 --> 03:12:44,540
What I can do is maybe do my clarification up front, so they understand factually how we got here.

2022
03:12:45,820 --> 03:12:48,720
Just those four comments, I have my notes here.

2023
03:12:49,220 --> 03:12:58,100
We'll repeat that, so if you understand how we got here, so we don't have the same questions and we don't have the same comments in terms of why the rate hike, why you sent a contract.

2024
03:12:58,960 --> 03:13:03,180
We just stick with the facts, and then we'll see where we are with the ballot votes.

2025
03:13:04,700 --> 03:13:07,060
Is that okay?

2026
03:13:07,700 --> 03:13:13,940
Yeah, I have a question, but the other part of my failed notion was to ask staff to do

2027
03:13:13,940 --> 03:13:17,520
an analysis on potentially phasing in the franchise fee.

2028
03:13:18,160 --> 03:13:22,500
If that's still possible, I don't know if that's doable by August 6th.

2029
03:13:22,520 --> 03:13:26,360
But if that's an opportunity to be able to have a couple weeks to do that,

2030
03:13:29,190 --> 03:13:30,130
maybe we can

2031
03:13:30,130 --> 03:13:32,970
and include that analysis part of the staff report for that.

2032
03:13:33,590 --> 03:13:34,910
Mr. and I, I'm members of the council.

2033
03:13:35,190 --> 03:13:37,910
If the council is, I think if the majority of council

2034
03:13:37,910 --> 03:13:41,230
is interested in us looking in and phasing in the fee over time,

2035
03:13:41,770 --> 03:13:44,870
I think if we could hear that back from council, get feedback

2036
03:13:44,870 --> 03:13:46,810
so that we understand that that's a request

2037
03:13:46,810 --> 03:13:49,090
for the majority of councils that we could work on that,

2038
03:13:49,430 --> 03:13:53,350
we will do our best to try to bring back the phased in approach.

2039
03:13:53,670 --> 03:13:55,690
I think I heard from council member Wong,

2040
03:13:57,810 --> 03:14:08,790
I know you might have just been chatting, but 75% of the fee being implemented like year one and then year two would be the remaining 25%.

2041
03:14:08,790 --> 03:14:12,170
So let me just make sure I understand this.

2042
03:14:12,330 --> 03:14:23,250
So you're saying, instead of $35 a month, $33 this year, $35 next year, $37 the other year.

2043
03:14:24,090 --> 03:14:27,970
However, the city is still picking up a portion of the cost for the Ministry of Fee.

2044
03:14:29,450 --> 03:14:33,930
I don't fully trust, even your bank, I don't trust your math, but yes, generally that concept in terms of

2045
03:14:33,930 --> 03:14:37,150
We're not going to go to the full franchise fee whatever we've done.

2046
03:14:37,150 --> 03:14:38,590
We'll cover up the portion of that.

2047
03:14:38,870 --> 03:14:38,970
Okay.

2048
03:14:39,310 --> 03:14:40,870
To allow, because I know what I do, we've

2049
03:14:40,870 --> 03:14:44,270
established a large increase in one year.

2050
03:14:44,610 --> 03:14:50,990
So if there's, if we can look at potential options to spread that over your two years.

2051
03:14:51,510 --> 03:14:54,150
So I would agreeable with that because it's not really a motion.

2052
03:14:54,370 --> 03:14:56,710
We're just having staff kind of take a look at it to see.

2053
03:14:57,570 --> 03:14:58,230
Give us.

2054
03:14:58,770 --> 03:14:59,910
What do we need a motion?

2055
03:15:01,460 --> 03:15:29,740
No, there's no motion needed, because we just need direction so that we can prepare. So all of us agree. Okay, that's helpful. Thank you. So just for clarification, the proposed rate in the staff report was an 11, 11.97 increase. So we're going to look at facing that in over year one and then year two, but of course it cannot exceed. It cannot exceed 34, 69.

2056
03:15:29,740 --> 03:15:35,620
So we're looking at like a one to two-year phase in like two-year phase in correct?

2057
03:15:36,120 --> 03:15:39,800
$35,000. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. That's helpful for staff too.

2058
03:15:39,800 --> 03:15:46,320
All right. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Let's move on to the next item. We're almost home, guys.

2059
03:15:48,260 --> 03:15:51,420
Section 945. Section number 11, new business.

2060
03:16:02,510 --> 03:16:04,990
If I can ask maybe staff, we can have

2061
03:16:04,990 --> 03:16:13,370
If it's in preparation for the public continued public hearing, if we can maybe have interpretation available and ready for the next meeting.

2062
03:16:14,170 --> 03:16:15,830
Yes, understood.

2063
03:16:16,430 --> 03:16:29,630
And then if we want to make sure, City Clerk, if we have contact information for the speakers for tonight, if there's anybody that doesn't have the contact information that we wanted to follow up on, we just want to make sure that we grab that before they leave.

2064
03:16:29,630 --> 03:16:31,890
Okay, thank you.

2065
03:16:53,120 --> 03:16:53,960
No speakers.

2066
03:16:55,240 --> 03:16:56,440
No speakers.

2067
03:16:56,660 --> 03:16:56,860
Okay.

2068
03:16:57,000 --> 03:16:57,980
That's what I thought.

2069
03:16:59,520 --> 03:16:59,740
Okay.

2070
03:17:00,140 --> 03:17:00,580
Good evening.

2071
03:17:00,760 --> 03:17:01,560
May I be your prototype?

2072
03:17:01,780 --> 03:17:03,100
Members of the City Council again.

2073
03:17:03,640 --> 03:17:05,320
Such a deep bond public works manager.

2074
03:17:06,000 --> 03:17:09,380
The item before you is consideration of an urgency ordinance

2075
03:17:09,380 --> 03:17:15,320
and regular ordinance regarding public nuisance contracting policies to

2076
03:17:17,980 --> 03:17:19,380
provide a little bit of background.

2077
03:17:19,380 --> 03:17:24,540
Found generally the city must comply with local and state competitive bidding requirements for

2078
03:17:24,540 --> 03:17:28,840
public works projects over $5,000 to help prevent fraud and

2079
03:17:28,840 --> 03:17:31,160
promote the efficient use of public funds.

2080
03:17:31,720 --> 03:17:36,140
However, this process is timely and because of that,

2081
03:17:36,580 --> 03:17:41,040
these procedures can be counterproductive for time sensitive nuisance abatement projects.

2082
03:17:42,400 --> 03:17:48,980
Typically, time and money is saved when property owners abate nuisance on their own property at their cost.

2083
03:17:48,980 --> 03:17:55,700
some owners, however, being neglect, nuisance abatement orders which can cause delays in worsen conditions.

2084
03:17:56,340 --> 03:18:01,680
Under these circumstances, nuisance instructions are often subject to illegal occupancy, hazard

2085
03:18:01,680 --> 03:18:05,000
disconditions, and bad acts like fires or graffiti.

2086
03:18:06,020 --> 03:18:17,020
So tonight, for your consideration, our changes to the municipal code, chapter 3.100 and chapter 3.90.050,

2087
03:18:17,020 --> 03:18:20,360
to help ensure with nuisance abatement.

2088
03:18:21,000 --> 03:18:26,840
So the three changes that we're going to be going over tonight include City Manager's Public Works Contracting Authority,

2089
03:18:27,320 --> 03:18:32,080
the City Design Immunity Delegation, and the City Attorney's Signature Authority.

2090
03:18:33,380 --> 03:18:41,920
So under the changes, the proposed changes, the City Manager would be able to solicit and enter into Public Works Contracts up to 100,000,

2091
03:18:42,660 --> 03:18:47,140
where the city has a nuisance abatement warrant or where there are emergency conditions.

2092
03:18:47,440 --> 03:18:53,020
The city manager also could directly negotiate remediation services, prevailing wage would

2093
03:18:53,020 --> 03:18:57,720
not apply under these circumstances and costs would be recoverable from property owners.

2094
03:19:00,350 --> 03:19:05,050
The city council, again, the proposed changes include the city council can invoke design

2095
03:19:05,050 --> 03:19:08,690
immunity for liability related to public improvements.

2096
03:19:08,690 --> 03:19:21,610
The council would be able to delegate this authority to approve project plans and invoke design immunity and the proposed changes would essentially codify the city council's delegation of design immunity authority to the city engineer.

2097
03:19:23,820 --> 03:19:27,040
The third change is the city attorney's signature authority.

2098
03:19:27,040 --> 03:19:35,160
The council can delegate authority to send contracts to public officials by ordinance and has delegated this authority to city managers and directors.

2099
03:19:35,600 --> 03:19:45,840
The proposed changes would add the city attorney as a contract signature for retaining special counsel or experts for lawsuits or retaining nuisance abatement contractors.

2100
03:19:47,320 --> 03:19:54,720
Both of the ordinances that are being presented today include essentially all of the changes that I just went over.

2101
03:19:54,720 --> 03:20:01,800
If adopted, the urgency ordinance would become effective immediately upon a four-fifths council

2102
03:20:01,800 --> 03:20:02,300
majority.

2103
03:20:02,900 --> 03:20:08,880
The regular ordinance would require two readings, so if approved, we would present the first

2104
03:20:08,880 --> 03:20:12,540
reading during this council meeting and bring it back to council for the second reading,

2105
03:20:12,900 --> 03:20:15,360
and it would become effective 30 days after adoption.

2106
03:20:16,880 --> 03:20:23,500
So staff's recommendation is for city council to adopt the urgency ordinance, Valleys four-fifths

2107
03:20:23,500 --> 03:20:32,540
vote, amending chapters 3.100 and chapter 3.90.05.0 to add the sections regarding governing

2108
03:20:32,540 --> 03:20:38,160
contracting to a bait public nuisance. I would like to add a note that the staff report

2109
03:20:38,160 --> 03:20:47,420
had a typo in the second sections. It listed 3.090. It's actually 3.90. And also introducing

2110
03:20:47,420 --> 03:20:52,640
and waiving first reading of an ordinance amending again the same sections to add sections governing

2111
03:20:52,640 --> 03:20:54,600
in contracting to a bait public nuisance.

2112
03:20:57,880 --> 03:21:00,120
That concludes my presentation. I'm available

2113
03:21:00,120 --> 03:21:02,700
for comments, your questions, and so is the City Attorney.

2114
03:21:04,100 --> 03:21:06,840
Mr. Member, members of the Council, sorry. I know we jumped right in. We wanted to take

2115
03:21:06,840 --> 03:21:11,160
them away to introduce Joaquin Vazquez. He is the Deputy City Attorney. So, just as,

2116
03:21:11,380 --> 03:21:16,220
and FYI, I don't know that everybody knows him. So, that's who, that's who's up there

2117
03:21:16,220 --> 03:21:17,540
with Sochi, presenting tonight.

2118
03:21:19,440 --> 03:21:20,640
Thank you, Mr. Vazquez.

2119
03:21:20,640 --> 03:21:20,800
Yes.

2120
03:21:21,940 --> 03:21:22,780
Thank you.

2121
03:21:22,780 --> 03:21:23,100
Thank you.

2122
03:21:23,140 --> 03:21:25,220
Honorable Mayor Council, pleasure to serve you.

2123
03:21:25,620 --> 03:21:26,580
Been there before.

2124
03:21:27,060 --> 03:21:29,140
Glad to meet the new faces on the council.

2125
03:21:29,400 --> 03:21:30,120
Thank you for having me.

2126
03:21:32,380 --> 03:21:33,140
Questions, comments?

2127
03:21:34,240 --> 03:21:34,960
Do you have to open up?

2128
03:21:35,160 --> 03:21:36,220
There's no public.

2129
03:21:37,980 --> 03:21:39,340
I support this.

2130
03:21:39,420 --> 03:21:45,240
I appreciate staff putting this together and appreciate that we need to appreciate the need

2131
03:21:45,240 --> 03:21:45,800
for this.

2132
03:21:46,260 --> 03:21:51,900
A quick question would be, is there a requirement when, if the City Manager

2133
03:21:51,900 --> 03:21:57,380
to choose this exercise, this spent new, with the increased spending authority on abatement.

2134
03:21:58,660 --> 03:22:02,500
Is there current requirement for reporting out to the Council on Action,

2135
03:22:02,580 --> 03:22:03,780
taken along these lines?

2136
03:22:06,960 --> 03:22:09,480
Mr. Mayor, members of the Council, I'll take that one.

2137
03:22:10,220 --> 03:22:17,640
Generally speaking, we have either sought authority to initiate litigation in those types of cases.

2138
03:22:18,540 --> 03:22:21,980
Certainly, there's no legal formal requirement, but

2139
03:22:21,980 --> 03:22:26,540
But I know that as a practice, we have informed the council either through confidential

2140
03:22:26,540 --> 03:22:30,620
memas or otherwise, but if that's something that the council would like, direction

2141
03:22:30,620 --> 03:22:35,980
forward, and certainly put that into the minute order, and we will go ahead and update

2142
03:22:35,980 --> 03:22:39,880
you as if these are issued other than on the warrant list.

2143
03:22:40,580 --> 03:22:46,820
Yes, I support this and I just add, I would request that we add that requirement for some sort

2144
03:22:46,820 --> 03:22:52,400
of report whether that's confidential if it's relating to litigation or a quick just report

2145
03:22:52,400 --> 03:22:58,240
out in the weekly report from the city manager to the council. I just want to make sure if

2146
03:22:58,240 --> 03:23:03,940
they're just for my council district or the city generally if there's an abatement action might

2147
03:23:03,940 --> 03:23:11,700
in an area just want to be aware of it. So just add that as a requirement for a quick report out.

2148
03:23:11,700 --> 03:23:15,510
Do I have a motion then?

2149
03:23:16,730 --> 03:23:18,590
I'll move on to the other comments.

2150
03:23:19,130 --> 03:23:20,490
Second by Council Member Low.

2151
03:23:21,090 --> 03:23:21,490
Let's vote.

2152
03:23:25,950 --> 03:23:26,810
I'm approved unanimously.

2153
03:23:27,850 --> 03:23:28,270
All right.

2154
03:23:29,850 --> 03:23:31,390
Getting through this here.

2155
03:23:33,010 --> 03:23:35,450
City Communications, my new favorite friend.

2156
03:23:37,640 --> 03:23:38,220
On the agenda.

2157
03:23:39,540 --> 03:23:40,500
We'll start with Council Member Low.

2158
03:23:43,640 --> 03:23:44,520
Council Member Low.

2159
03:23:45,000 --> 03:23:45,300
Okay.

2160
03:23:46,400 --> 03:23:48,360
Well, you are doing communications.

2161
03:23:49,160 --> 03:23:55,420
Yeah, I would actually just like to announce, so a long time resident of our city, Mr. John Wong,

2162
03:23:55,460 --> 03:23:56,360
recently passed away.

2163
03:23:56,520 --> 03:24:01,280
And for those of you who know him, you know, he's regularly come to the council meetings

2164
03:24:01,280 --> 03:24:02,380
to speak to the public comment.

2165
03:24:02,640 --> 03:24:08,260
Although, my, I also know him because he is the president of the San Diego Village chapter

2166
03:24:08,260 --> 03:24:10,000
of the Chinatown American Census Alliance.

2167
03:24:10,120 --> 03:24:14,380
I am the president of the LA lodge as are many of our counterpart residents.

2168
03:24:14,380 --> 03:24:20,220
But nonetheless, you know, we are starting to hear the passing of a well-revolved resident

2169
03:24:20,220 --> 03:24:20,700
in our city.

2170
03:24:21,040 --> 03:24:30,800
And I would like to adjourn this council meeting in his name and also announce that services

2171
03:24:30,800 --> 03:24:44,300
for Mr. Wong, John Wong, as the July 19th, 9th, 3rd, 8th, 8th, 8th, 8th, 8th, 8th, 8th, 9th,

2172
03:24:45,280 --> 03:24:49,160
and that there is a wake on the 18th,

2173
03:24:49,160 --> 03:24:50,520
5% of the universe of Changwam,

2174
03:24:50,820 --> 03:24:53,720
mortuary at 225 North Graphiod Avenue,

2175
03:24:53,900 --> 03:24:55,420
Alhambra for the record.

2176
03:24:56,180 --> 03:25:00,680
Also briefly, this past Saturday,

2177
03:25:00,940 --> 03:25:04,120
I attended at Saint,

2178
03:25:04,740 --> 03:25:05,900
and I'm gonna mess up the name,

2179
03:25:06,320 --> 03:25:08,360
Lutheran Church on Graphiod,

2180
03:25:09,040 --> 03:25:11,640
funeral service for a former librarian, Linda Wilson,

2181
03:25:11,640 --> 03:25:17,840
And for those who have looked at a long time know that Linda Wilson was our librarian for many, many years.

2182
03:25:18,360 --> 03:25:25,180
In fact, she was our librarian during that period in which we were rebuilding the librarian library.

2183
03:25:25,700 --> 03:25:32,220
And so many of us, and I realized she had retired as our librarian for many years.

2184
03:25:32,220 --> 03:25:37,540
But nonetheless, the service was here in Monter Park, after she retired, she was living in Monter Park.

2185
03:25:38,620 --> 03:25:45,020
And I know I mentioned in the previous counseling her passing, but again, I'm also adjourned

2186
03:25:45,020 --> 03:25:47,900
in Linda Wilson's memory as well, so thank you.

2187
03:25:50,470 --> 03:25:50,950
Yeah.

2188
03:25:51,330 --> 03:25:57,330
And then also, John Wong also has a wake the Friday before the memorial on July 18th

2189
03:25:57,330 --> 03:25:57,910
in the evening.

2190
03:25:58,870 --> 03:26:03,890
And now, Hambra, if anyone wants to address, they can email us and we'll provide it to them.

2191
03:26:03,890 --> 03:26:24,990
Last Friday, the San Gabriel Valley Civic Alliance also hosted their first inaugural food tour in six different restaurants in Monterey Park, including Carnitas, Cooks Tortas, Taihei, Jim Bakerie, Myanmar, the Burmese restaurants.

2192
03:26:24,990 --> 03:26:25,630
Yeah.

2193
03:26:26,230 --> 03:26:35,550
So there was a bus and all five council members supported it and attended and they're planning on doing it more regularly.

2194
03:26:35,930 --> 03:26:41,190
It brought proceeds to the Rotary Club in Altadena, so supported in Altadena.

2195
03:26:41,770 --> 03:26:42,670
So that was very successful.

2196
03:26:43,670 --> 03:26:46,990
So if it comes around again, everyone's invited to attend.

2197
03:26:46,990 --> 03:27:00,770
And one last item about the protest, if we can have the proper forms available in the clerk's office so that anyone can go and pick it up, if they need one, that would be great.

2198
03:27:01,090 --> 03:27:01,330
Thank you.

2199
03:27:02,710 --> 03:27:03,230
Okay.

2200
03:27:03,770 --> 03:27:10,110
A couple of things from before the last meeting, we're still celebrating Fourth of July all over the city.

2201
03:27:10,750 --> 03:27:18,030
I actually was kicked off the table tennis tournament in our city at Langley Center.

2202
03:27:18,450 --> 03:27:22,910
There were 48 members, 48 competitors, and it's going to go three weeks.

2203
03:27:23,770 --> 03:27:28,210
So that's going to be exciting over the Robert at Langley Center.

2204
03:27:30,450 --> 03:27:35,190
Sometime last week, I was a guest speaker at E-Lac, and it just kind of reminded me again

2205
03:27:35,190 --> 03:27:37,770
that E-Lac is actually in the city of Maury Park.

2206
03:27:37,770 --> 03:27:47,550
So, even though it's East LA College, it's in the city of my park, and we have a junior college in our city.

2207
03:27:48,190 --> 03:28:02,930
I did the food tour, and I do want to note that two meetings ago, we closed in the memory of Linda Wilson, our librarian.

2208
03:28:02,930 --> 03:28:15,350
And this time we're going to close the meeting tonight in honor of John Wong, who, as Council Member Lowell mentioned, is the CACA president, as well as a long time volunteer with the city, including the Langley Center.

2209
03:28:16,050 --> 03:28:17,070
So may he rest in peace.

2210
03:28:17,490 --> 03:28:20,330
Good night, we will close out at 9.58.