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Welcome

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to the Monday, November 5th, the meeting of the Montpellier Design Review Committee. I will let staff and members introduce themselves.

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Hannah Smith, Meredith Krandell, staff.

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Steve and I've heard Eric Robertson,

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Seth Mitchell, Benjamin Cheney.

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And I think about it has anything else to offer ahead of time.

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Do I hear a motion to approve the agenda?

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I'll move it.

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Second.

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All in favor of the agenda, raise your hand.

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And we'll move straight to the first application

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for 100 state street continued.

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Come forward and show us what you've done

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And since we last met, I think one thing we should say is we're done at 7 o'clock.

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Because we're developing a few more meetings at 7 o'clock and they had a very large area.

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So we're going to try to move one.

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It was quickly as we can.

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Although it's quickly as I can, I'm going to give you these.

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I also have a stuff on the thumb right there.

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I have to ask if I can get it back.

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If you haven't made it so I can use it on the next board.

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Okay, we're having trouble with our credit.

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I have one more.

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Is everybody having?

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I'm going to show you.

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I'm going to show you.

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I'm going to show you.

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I'm going to show you.

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And I can't put the step up on the thumb drive.

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If you think it's important.

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Essentially we had two charges, I think coming out of this meeting, we wanted to talk about the railings.

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I don't know the detailing of those railings, and we spent a bunch of talking about wayfinding.

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And so this first plan you see our run on is the site plan with the wayfinding elements added, and they've been shown here by the front axis to the garage.

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Now, here by the secondary exit to the garage, there's one here at the beginning of this ramp up to the bike path.

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And then, is there a fourth one, George?

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Yeah, there's one on the boardwalk, and I did you talk with them right there.

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So, you'll see basically on the four corners of the building.

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So, the idea for these signs was to drive with the signage, a wave finding thing that is already undergoing a mock healer,

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and to provide a seating opportunity at this sign.

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So the next question by the, you guys.

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So the next page shows the elevation and plan

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of those those elements, which will happen to Jason

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to all the major accesses to the job.

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And the one thing we had to ask for was a view

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looking from state street back towards those entrances.

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Did you have something, we have the view from the top.

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states for that. We have a one looking or you're about three right on a time. We were in a time to take generate another image.

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I do have some updated images, but which

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is the use. You have people who are sorry.

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It has, as you saw it at all, about the issue of this.

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Let me start to design and these happen to the one picture of the entrance that's closest

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to the whole town in the alleyway.

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And the image that we had, I can't remember which one he showed me, aren't it?

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But it virtually doesn't even look like there's an entrance there.

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Because there's trees planted in front of it, or a pathway to it.

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Please find it in front of it and it just just square-homping between the buildings as far as I can count on.

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Do you have that image?

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I've got everything, so I've got it here somewhere.

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Yeah.

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I'm sorry.

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Can you point where you were pointing?

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Here's time to be right ahead of the top.

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To the right.

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To the garage after it.

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Well, we're looking at what I've been.

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Yes.

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It's the one right in front there.

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Yeah. This was the one we were running today, Greg.

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Okay. Okay.

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He started.

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There's no way you...

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The passageway through there, that was my issue. So I thought processes. How can we integrate this into the sign program that you are implementing citywide?

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If this were in that green space there, where it's proposed and you had this sticking up, that's what we interpreted as the way finding it.

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I thought that there are some more than a sign in the case of several times.

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It's more than a sign as you would be making a walk along the mean country than in the country.

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You go on to the river graphically or in some way.

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Well, this is what we had to offer.

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I'm sorry if I misunderstood your attention here.

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Again, rather than a lot of you with landscaping, the idea was to frame it with landscaping.

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So it drew you to it instead of hit the entrance.

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And what's that was your intention?

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Well, this rendering is a couple of generations old.

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I think a lot has changed, you know, I mean at this point

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the buildings were a lot closer together.

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So do you have in your thumb drive and the most recent rendering

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if you

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know, I don't think so, Eric.

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We generated so much 3D content for this job.

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but it's just, that's one I missed, I guess.

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But I don't, I don't have any different image

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than that, to offer you.

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Are you imagining, are they the equal weight

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the walk between the buildings or the sort of stuff?

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I think we, I personally, as it relates to our tech thought

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that the Haney law was going to be our sort of main path

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down there, as if we had open to this sign

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and then another one and another one around.

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I figured that was enough, we were trying to basically give wayfinding and seating opportunity to ask for.

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I don't,

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it's difficult to stick an arch or something on a building.

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And I guess I would agree that it feels to me like, through the heating a lot,

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is the main access to it, or ever, more so.

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I think between the hotel and the part of the rush.

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The landscaping in front of it is part of the hotel.

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I don't know.

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I think we also talked about building about it's side-ish on that.

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all the corners and sort of announce that entrance as a possibility.

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But we put the seating thing there right in that location thinking that would cover for that.

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I mean, that would work right now.

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You know, bring people to think what we want to do.

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Priester.

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Look out of place or did your other signage?

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I mean, I.

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Well, you know, I guess we're stuck.

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Because we interpreted this as sort of how do we integrate this into the broader pattern of what's

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happening around city to make it make sense.

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And so we took that direction, which, you know, had specific recommendations for certain kinds

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of things.

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The only thing we did was, in this particular case, as we had the seating element, which

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has seating elements that were already proposed for the boardwalk, or it's not back.

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I think we've talked about that.

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We're open to any kind of art in that alleyway or anything that could make it to you more

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We definitely see the secondary route, but felt that the way of finding would be enough

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and that seating opportunity would be a sort of an out-to-draw your eye to it, especially

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from the hotel exit, the entrance.

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This may be out of your purview, but is there a way to find the sign that's out on State Street?

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We're not sure exactly the location of all this is just basically a framework within that.

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But there is, there's the tourist information key outside the other end of the parking

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of the island.

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I can't imagine there can't be a way of finding signs on the state stream.

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Especially right by that information.

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I think one of the things that's shown up about this is it blocks access to the river.

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I don't necessarily believe that, but that's what people are commenting on, to me,

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those personally and putters to the paper and one of the letters we got in our

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packet last time, and what I was really trying to do is open up, so that you could

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just really clear when you're going to the river and when you're going to the river

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it down. I don't know if you're on a bike path.

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I still feel that what James is

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proposing is right and keeping with that. It's just it's out in the landscape.

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It's not a building mountain feature, but we...

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No, we took it on ourselves to sort of look at what else you were doing and I said we should be part of that.

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I think integrating in into your master plan of science seems like the right thing to do rather than creating some kind of a unique situation just at this area.

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I mean, I think.

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The garage itself has about 30 feet of river frontage.

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It's really one tailor street. It's got most of the river frontage and the conference park on the other side of the railroad tracks.

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What's access to the bike path?

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That's not just that much.

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There was a shout of access to the bike path and I think the deck is really a good idea

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because that gives people a sit there and look at the view of the river, but it's getting people

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knowing walking down the state streets that there are two paths to the river here, and that's where I am.

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But I'll shut up.

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Well, I'm not saying that. I don't think you should do it like that.

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We took a stab at it and I guess we stabbed wrong.

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We were probably the only having a week to come back to you.

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We would have a time to read.

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Just to position landscaping so that it draws you to it rather by heights.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The landscape may not be representative, but the actor heights it.

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Well, and again, the idea is to have a, if you're on stage between you.

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want to go in that direction, the idea is to have it draw you to it and not hide it

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again.

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I just feel like that is very much a secondary way of getting down there.

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The idea is to bring people down stage treat to this tourist informational location and see

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that sign.

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That was directed to the sign that's only right within I shot down the hanging lane.

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That's the only way bikes will be going for the most part.

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We just felt that was enough and the idea was to create these little points rather

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than some arch that was not in keeping with the signage program, because we're not looking

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for an arch, just plantings so that it draws you.

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What we tried to do was frame this teeny ramp with the amount of area that we have left to

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make it inviting. We have a sign and a seating opportunity right at the base of that ramp.

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The more piece corner of the garage we have, another sign,

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Okay, nice shot, visible from stage street.

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I don't, I don't, not necessarily believe in the signs that don't feel like there is

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the solution to the city much better, but I do think it's going to build a large building,

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creating in the landscape and the architecture of something that doesn't necessarily need

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the signs and encourages and feels bad.

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That's what it's saying.

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Hey, I want to go down there.

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There's a reason to go down there beyond these little signs.

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Can I? I understood, but I'm proud of that.

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I've got the hotel.

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The unskilled recycling, which was a part of this.

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And it might be even something as simple as shifting the soup rack.

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Ooh, sorry.

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That is right here that is sort of in the line,

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which I think is what people are seeing in this.

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Oh, that one.

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Yeah, that's one.

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Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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You're so familiar.

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Yeah, smaller, so if you want to pass that around so they can see what I'm looking at

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Because that would get rid of this tree or make it closer so it's more shrubbery

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And I'm not trying to make sure that, I know that's in this application that's kind of a new piece of evidence

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But again, it's a line of sight and it acts like that

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Right, so this should be open and it should be a little walk straight through

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So this is gone and instead you have something maybe where she behind that seat and sign.

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Right.

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That's not really my job.

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I think we were talking about this application.

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I think that makes complete sense.

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And I know it's outside, but in the DRB stage we are changes to the hotel site to the garage,

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where the impact...

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I'm trying to tell them also where they impact the hotel site plan and make those

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adjustments if that seems to register right with you guys as I

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something to throw in for a recommendation because you are allowed to make

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recommendations for landscaping under 24 VSA 44 13 even though this is a

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public project. Yeah, I think that's absolutely great idea. The likelihood of

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being able to see through the building is depicted in this rendering is unlikely

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correct. Right, so this is fast and older generation of

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So now you've got the screening.

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Well, you've got those scrims that we talked about at the last meeting.

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And again, the way the landscaping and the curbing enhances the entrance to the garage.

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It should be open in the same way to access the path between them.

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Because I mean, this one, you don't even really see a sidewalk.

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But I think if you look at this, there's no more sidewalk that will go all the way out.

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Because this is probably...

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How do we resolve this, though? Because clearly we presented the wrong thing. I mean, is this going to result in you asking us to come back yet again?

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We just, what we'll do is we'll make, again, while we are advisory, we will make a recommendation to the development review board that the landscaping on that access fee change to invite it to that.

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And then it'll be a curb opening so that there's a clear pathway through that landscaping to that pathway.

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Yeah, because I'm sure the rest of the civil dogs are just stuck in the reveal button.

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I hand you can't curb cuts and crosswalks and stuff.

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You if you look at the back of the package on C1.1, you can see where the crosswalk direction

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over there and it lines up on that.

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We're sort of talking about this.

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You can see how the app way is set up.

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So if you're amenable to including a condition in your recommendations that we

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the landscape and you bring it back to marry a part of the building or something like that.

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And describe your change or the fence and that was one of the other items.

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So also, including your package, this third sheet of the package, I hand it out as a construction detail of a fence thing.

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And you can see that this would be used for all of these types of purposes.

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So this would blood the openings on the garage, this would line the ramp and it would also go along the drop off by the railroad track.

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And this was selected because this is the design being used at Taylor Street, so we've got some correspondence with what's going on on the other side of the tracks, which is unbelievable to talk about.

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And James has included some pictures of these where they've used them in other places.

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This is not a rendering of this project, it's at, I think that's a little bit of a part of it.

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But gives you an idea of what it looks like in place.

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I think the material for the ramp also could be a galvanized.

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It would be a nice composition to have the ramp and I think we're all the same material.

240
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You know the ramp up to the boardwalk.

241
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Yeah, we have those added to the renderings which I can put up on.

242
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The big screen, but we have to see what that looks like in the render.

243
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You can see what that looks like in the render.

244
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And this is also, you know, we talked about adding a view that showed with the trees in place.

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So you see those those were a bridge coming up from below.

246
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And I think the next one should be, yes, just a different view of the same thing.

247
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But, um, with the trees in place.

248
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But I think the important thing for us was to just show this railing and this railing in situite in situ.

249
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No, that railing color is black.

250
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I showed it as black.

251
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Yeah, because we've been doing all the other metal work on the garage as black.

252
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James has scattered his galvanized in the detail because that's what he's recommending.

253
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But we're, you know, we're open-minded either way.

254
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Possible to do it in black.

255
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Yeah, I could be doing this.

256
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The black shows the landscape being at a much nicer.

257
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Yeah, I think so. It's a little less visually

258
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Well, it's our ears. Yeah, I guess the landscape.

259
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Well, it's the galvanized stands out. You see the fence instead of the landscape.

260
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But one tailor is galvanized.

261
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I believe you.

262
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So you see a similar any in shapes and stuff.

263
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Yeah, I don't necessarily have a problem with that except maybe, you know,

264
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It'll be up to the railroad, whether or not they get a fence on both sides of the tracks.

265
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They reserve the right to deal with that themselves, but we've indicated.

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But we'd be kind of funny if one side was black and one side was galvanized on either side.

267
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That's what I was saying, right?

268
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It's too bad because the black shows the landscaping much nicer.

269
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Yeah, I think that's it, but they're galvanized, things on gossips building, that was the driving force for me to get galvanized on that project.

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I think it's the galvanized, I actually like the galvanized as it ages, it models it has a little bit more texture to it than something that's black, it's just sort of,

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even if you like the, the model. Do we know what this bridge is made out? Is that galvanized as that kind of thing?

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The bike path bridge, I'm not sure, I think it's some kind of concrete, but I don't know.

273
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We had the civil engineering drawings, but we didn't have any engineering drawings for the bridge itself.

274
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I think we obviously divide it on the design team year a little bit.

275
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I have an impression too, either. I can kind of style as fine. I need to update your note, though, because you have one area saying, galvanized and one saying, stainless steel.

276
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Yeah, I think Stan must go beat you down, so yeah, it's definitely not going to happen here

277
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Some of the fence who would definitely be galvanized because like if that's fine with me and I personally prefer a galvanized

278
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I don't know, I'll check you down, guys.

279
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I think

280
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Park would probably fit in there with the rest of the garage.

281
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Yeah.

282
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What?

283
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It's a lot of interesting.

284
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You got the nice down the railing and the ramp and then black,

285
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where it's actually a part of the garage.

286
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Yeah, that's a good work for me.

287
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Yeah.

288
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Because I don't really want to highlight that.

289
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I just know to have it there.

290
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Yeah.

291
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There's some places under the bridge and stuff

292
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where we want to keep people from getting in there as well,

293
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So there'll be some security-fencing under all these.

294
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Nobody's designed up the best to in great chair, right?

295
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We have no design, because the other ones in town are the Galvanite,

296
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are the court camps still.

297
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Some are Galvanite.

298
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Oh, the bike path bridge?

299
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Yeah, I'd be like I said, we had a civil engineering plan for it.

300
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It could very well be that it looks different than this.

301
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I just wanted to be clear.

302
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But my understanding is that's, I mean, that I'll permit it and done and before I was even here.

303
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Yeah, we won't be constructive.

304
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Yeah, the stay-in-tech's playing part of the one tail of me project.

305
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That was a good last year.

306
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That's the way the bridge has been locked.

307
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I don't know.

308
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I don't know the specifics of stay-in-tech's playing.

309
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Yeah.

310
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We need Tom or...

311
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We need to come up and...

312
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That's where it is. That's how big it is.

313
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That's how long it is. That's what we know.

314
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Yeah. Part of it.

315
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But it's not a part of this application.

316
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So we don't have to deal with it. I don't think.

317
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No, we're just trying to integrate.

318
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A little bit.

319
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Make sure that we're making a decision based on...

320
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So, on the ramp you'll need a handle, obviously.

321
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So yeah, it shows yeah, yeah, so yeah, you can kind of see in the rendering if you zoom in that the

322
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Intermediate railings on the inside

323
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For getting

324
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So we were proposing galvanized on the level or black on the pitch, is that, I think galvanized in the landscape and only black on the building.

325
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Like, where you have to have it on the base level, keep towers and people going out at the opening and the base level where the water is to go in and out or underneath the boardwalk to keep people from going under the boardwalk.

326
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That was something that Chief of Police requested after the October 30th meeting, the under the boardwalking needs to be finished off.

327
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I think that worked, that works for me.

328
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It's a big sense.

329
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I guess that way, the walkways want to disappear.

330
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People will be able to see those more, but not pay attention to the other fencing.

331
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That's not as

332
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people friendly.

333
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I want to get back to, I guess what has become like.

334
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I'm getting a wave down on the, you have a generic wave finding sign, right?

335
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The,

336
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I have some problems with the whole wave finding plan.

337
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That's not appropriate to talk about it.

338
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But, and I know that's being done by, you understand?

339
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There are a lot of things.

340
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But the thing I really want to be,

341
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There are signs and graphics that people don't have to wander around wondering where the river is.

342
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And I'm not sure that's there at this point. Some of the graphics for the wayfinding sign just frankly confused me and I know my pillar pretty well.

343
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and I think

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it wants his parents articulated it just wants to be inviting regardless of

345
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whether their signs they're not, but like as you're walking down the state street

346
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who want to be like, oh hey that looks like an interesting thing but I want to feel like

347
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I should have put walk through there and get to the river and I don't need a little sign to tell

348
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me that really when you get right down to it off of state street that's really the

349
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You know, unless you get on a tailor,

350
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when you think about coming from Main Street up around the corner,

351
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and there isn't no other access to the river of the Main Street,

352
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which will be worth a bite of access to it.

353
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Come around and measure going past Julios on the stage street

354
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and you look down, it should be, you know,

355
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that's the first chance you have to get access to that pack corner.

356
00:26:25,220 --> 00:26:28,580
So, whatever it can be done to make that, again,

357
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hiding. So this is your walking bag. You can look down and see that access. And again,

358
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between landscaping and stuff. Yeah. My recollection is there are no panels for murals

359
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on the state street side. Those are all up here. No, because the only part other than the entrance,

360
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basic state streets is going to be sort of behind the Christchurch public building. Right. And I'm

361
00:26:57,540 --> 00:27:02,020
They just certainly wanted 40 foot tall Marilyn Monroe looking at their window or something.

362
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:16,160
Right. I guess I was thinking more like if there was a contact corner, the elevator corner in there, if there was spot for a mural, that would feel inviting at that corner that might draw you to want to walk down the path.

363
00:27:17,540 --> 00:27:26,200
Absolutely. The wires that are going across the north branch, on the other side of between the state and Langden, something like that between the two buildings.

364
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,140
We're hoping to make that a dark thing, all right?

365
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These are suggestions.

366
00:27:32,260 --> 00:27:33,100
Yeah, okay.

367
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And we perhaps, the treatment of the pedestrian,

368
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the way the bikes are going to come down

369
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through the hand-hanging lock or the painted blue.

370
00:27:47,740 --> 00:27:49,740
Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of things outside of that.

371
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The ground is painted.

372
00:27:51,580 --> 00:27:53,420
Yeah, the way all of those things.

373
00:27:54,220 --> 00:27:55,560
With the way findings seem,

374
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:59,300
there were certain identified landmarks

375
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that they were pointing out was the bike path on there

376
00:28:03,180 --> 00:28:06,780
as one of the, like, is this sign going to say bite path?

377
00:28:06,940 --> 00:28:10,260
Oh, yeah, our sign would say it's a river by Conflins Park,

378
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,480
by the path boardwalk.

379
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,060
OK, I don't think they've even got to this week,

380
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by the weekend, they got to the point

381
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of figuring out exactly what things they were going to point to yet.

382
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:20,360
Very generic.

383
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,540
I came to the presentation of the city council.

384
00:28:23,220 --> 00:28:23,540
Oh, OK.

385
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:23,920
We're fine.

386
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,320
I think it's really generic.

387
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,080
It was very, OK, I couldn't tell if I had already decided

388
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,780
which landmarks we're going to be identified or not.

389
00:28:32,780 --> 00:28:36,860
Okay, my understanding is they hadn't, they had to have a limited budget, but it's something

390
00:28:36,860 --> 00:28:43,900
where I am sure that over time it could also be added to, it's need be, but it's also

391
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going to be a question for Bill or Sue if either of them know anything more. I don't know.

392
00:28:52,330 --> 00:28:52,510
No.

393
00:28:56,450 --> 00:29:02,070
Again, once they finalize that project, it would be nice to have something that's somewhat

394
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compatible.

395
00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:07,610
So at least if there's a sign-up on stage, that's where this is like that.

396
00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:09,930
We're going to be walking that I've had for a minute.

397
00:29:10,090 --> 00:29:14,190
It says that you've got down there that it's clear that, you know, there's...

398
00:29:14,190 --> 00:29:20,070
I mean, it's just, you know, having those signs within I shot at each other.

399
00:29:22,810 --> 00:29:26,150
Anybody else have any other questions, comments, suggestions?

400
00:29:26,770 --> 00:29:28,250
I said to myself, at this point.

401
00:29:31,410 --> 00:29:33,790
And again, I want to be honest.

402
00:29:33,790 --> 00:29:35,670
I'm sitting here thinking about I'm in the photo.

403
00:29:36,010 --> 00:29:37,250
So I find it very difficult.

404
00:29:38,390 --> 00:29:42,350
So make a recommendation or vote if you don't know what you're going to get.

405
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:45,320
And I

406
00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:50,380
haven't decided yet.

407
00:29:56,690 --> 00:29:59,570
We can open it up to the public, but I'm very briefly.

408
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:14,640
Because we have a time limitation tonight. We'll open that up for the next 10 minutes or so. And then anybody who wants to have any further comment, this is moving on to the development review board anyway.

409
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:22,460
So, again, we're advisory, so anybody who has any additional comments can bring that up and have the development review board meeting.

410
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:32,560
Anybody wants to speak up, plan to do it briefly and raise your hand and come up to them.

411
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,000
I think it would be good if people were restricted.

412
00:30:35,180 --> 00:30:36,580
We've prepared their comments.

413
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:40,640
What design review has authority to you?

414
00:30:49,170 --> 00:30:54,290
Nobody has anything to offer, we can go ahead and move forward.

415
00:30:55,650 --> 00:30:59,690
We will run down, there were some just to reiterate, there were some recommendations

416
00:30:59,690 --> 00:31:01,470
made from the last meeting.

417
00:31:02,390 --> 00:31:08,690
One was to have an option for the large artwork panels, with a public contest for a selection

418
00:31:08,690 --> 00:31:13,650
of actual artwork to be printed on the screens, an option one.

419
00:31:13,650 --> 00:31:19,990
provided that the artwork on the scrum shall be muted black and grey tones in color, subtle

420
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:24,430
preferably echoing neighborhood themes like the railroad bridge, etc.

421
00:31:25,450 --> 00:31:31,450
Cornesses could be made out of GFRC or a polymer composite material, but were to be

422
00:31:31,450 --> 00:31:34,690
colored to resemble the grey granite used elsewhere on the building.

423
00:31:35,630 --> 00:31:38,910
Deking for the boardwalk shall preferably made from now.

424
00:31:38,910 --> 00:31:46,830
Originally it was a locally sourced locus or a IP, IP, or another tropical hardwood, but again

425
00:31:46,830 --> 00:31:50,670
you would like to use some galvanized decking, you said.

426
00:31:51,090 --> 00:31:53,690
No, I think the wood would remain wood. This would just be for the railings.

427
00:31:53,910 --> 00:31:55,770
No, okay. In the ring.

428
00:31:57,410 --> 00:32:02,590
And then use a smooth, not rough finish for a granite portions of the garage of rougher bases,

429
00:32:02,590 --> 00:32:06,330
will have to catch and hold dirt, increasing maintenance costs.

430
00:32:07,470 --> 00:32:12,490
And then the last couple of recommendations were, again, changing the landscaping around

431
00:32:12,490 --> 00:32:19,210
the access between the proposed total and the garage to invite access rather than hide

432
00:32:19,210 --> 00:32:20,070
the access.

433
00:32:20,450 --> 00:32:26,030
And again, open curving as you're showing in your most recent sketch.

434
00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:32,580
And then clarifying the fencing and railings at the rear of the garage would be galvanized

435
00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:34,540
metal or black colored metal material,

436
00:32:34,820 --> 00:32:36,340
black thick and civilian galvanized

437
00:32:36,340 --> 00:32:38,520
on the rounded boardwalk area.

438
00:32:39,580 --> 00:32:42,720
And then options, bike racks could be provided

439
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,840
on the boardwalk, as well as inside the parking garage.

440
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,860
And number two, applicant could provide hardware

441
00:32:50,860 --> 00:32:53,680
for hanging temporary banners over the large hardware

442
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,980
sections on the reverse side of the garage,

443
00:32:57,460 --> 00:33:00,180
artwork or eyeballs below the cornice work,

444
00:33:00,180 --> 00:33:05,560
or some other type of hardware, so that any hanging

445
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banners could be attached.

446
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,220
And stipulate to all of that.

447
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,100
If you ordered anything for the, I don't want to call it

448
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:18,480
way findings, it's more than a science issue,

449
00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:22,600
providing some direction all night for pedestrians

450
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,500
to the river.

451
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,160
Did you, you said you talked about it?

452
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:34,180
Well, they have, they have that and the most recent proposal that they gave us here.

453
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,240
On a case in Spain.

454
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,280
I've got to say I'm not satisfied with that.

455
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,140
On a fairer than exactly what it's going to be.

456
00:33:47,950 --> 00:33:51,290
I mean, if we talk about removing trees and changing trees,

457
00:33:51,550 --> 00:33:52,710
but we don't want to complain more.

458
00:33:53,170 --> 00:33:57,010
So, are we going to write something that,

459
00:33:57,010 --> 00:34:05,840
that we can send as a developer, or your board saying this needs to be improved, or people

460
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,680
don't want to do that, that's fine. Can we do that, Meredith?

461
00:34:10,580 --> 00:34:16,800
Yeah, you can write something more specific than what Stephen just said, if you want.

462
00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:21,480
If everybody agrees that it's, I mean, we're talking about removing the sumac.

463
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,200
Yeah, the sumac is low, it's the ginko, it's the tree, that's in the way.

464
00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:36,280
Well, the ginko is between the church and the, I mean, the sumac is, from this it looked like the sumac,

465
00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:42,520
I'm sorry to get sort of buried in this. So the ginko is on the side towards on the church parking lots.

466
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,620
That's not blocking the access between the garage and the hotel.

467
00:34:48,140 --> 00:34:53,080
So we can make it as an amendment to the, I think, the last thing that just says visual.

468
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:53,680
Oh, yeah.

469
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,520
Oh, I've seen another activity between the state street up in there.

470
00:34:59,880 --> 00:34:59,980
That's...

471
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:14,620
There's a lot of, you know, especially a lot of freedom trail, a very brick running down the middle of the sidewalk or whatever. So you've got a line to follow, you know, you go for your way for your way for your way for your way of finding a point and it says to the river.

472
00:35:14,620 --> 00:35:17,900
And we're just, yeah, y'all will have to be serious to do this.

473
00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:19,520
So they're not in the property business.

474
00:35:20,780 --> 00:35:22,520
That's the issue that would have to be coordinated

475
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,460
through one failure alive, not by the applicant.

476
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,420
Well, we're showing space to incorporate that on our property.

477
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,920
I understand what Eric's looking for.

478
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:34,060
I think we're just trying to find a way to articulate it,

479
00:35:34,060 --> 00:35:36,420
which is that the way finding things

480
00:35:36,420 --> 00:35:39,680
needs to be more than signage and moving to points.

481
00:35:40,420 --> 00:35:42,200
And we're happy to stipulate to that.

482
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,300
I just, I think we missed Redberg where you were going with that last time we saw you and I'm

483
00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:55,280
saw how do you want to phrase that. I just think that's the direction and guiding people

484
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:02,360
who ever need more of their signage. I think it could be pavement. It'd come out through the

485
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:09,560
Haiti lot where the bike is. It doesn't, you know, I think there's a lot of different ways to do that.

486
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:19,520
You can have a blue side one, and you can do things like that, but I think that really needs to happen.

487
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:28,860
You know, this, I think that United done a great job of improving this over the times in the meeting.

488
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:37,500
And, but I, you know, I've been in the strange cities, well, where's the river?

489
00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:41,660
there's a map show is a river running suit town and you're in the hotel.

490
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,180
How do you get that?

491
00:36:43,460 --> 00:36:46,320
You know, if you walk out of the hotel, you see a sign to the river.

492
00:36:47,220 --> 00:36:48,900
Graphics at Indicator River.

493
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:50,320
I

494
00:36:54,090 --> 00:36:54,830
think we agree.

495
00:36:55,050 --> 00:36:58,970
We just want to incorporate it within the framework of Greater Montpelliers.

496
00:37:00,890 --> 00:37:03,070
Yeah, and it's path making, not place making.

497
00:37:03,550 --> 00:37:06,510
So, you know, I mean, linear elements when you find, right?

498
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,140
We need you guys to get on the period of life we've been in team.

499
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,480
Thank you, Erica.

500
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,600
I thought I'm enjoying that.

501
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,660
We're amenable to incorporating this into this.

502
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,400
I don't want it to be the reason we stall out.

503
00:37:29,740 --> 00:37:33,560
Well, and this is, so we can make this recommendation to the DRB.

504
00:37:33,620 --> 00:37:40,980
This is kind of outside of the scope of the 44th or 13 limits on this.

505
00:37:40,980 --> 00:37:42,980
But it doesn't mean that

506
00:37:44,620 --> 00:37:47,160
They will especially kind of base the agreement on it

507
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,020
They won't get folded in

508
00:37:51,220 --> 00:37:52,860
I just am not

509
00:37:52,860 --> 00:37:56,160
Not quite sure how how that's gonna go

510
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,420
But does it mean you guys can't recommend that?

511
00:37:59,950 --> 00:38:08,330
It's not an unfriendly recommendation. Yeah, no, we're not allowed to. That's what I said. That's what I said. All about it. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to be clear

512
00:38:08,330 --> 00:38:11,550
Feel your live and get them to listen as well

513
00:38:17,310 --> 00:38:26,090
And it also becomes a maintenance of it issue, too, if it's something that's embedded into the sidewalk, things like that.

514
00:38:26,170 --> 00:38:27,110
For sure, yeah.

515
00:38:27,710 --> 00:38:30,290
So this is something that

516
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,980
I can go and be a lovely though.

517
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:38,780
You need to take those stencils on the side.

518
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,080
And do they put the stencils by the sores and decaying?

519
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,520
That's it.

520
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,100
Oh, yeah.

521
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,140
That's the river.

522
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,100
That's fairly easy to do.

523
00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:54,780
Something like that. I mean, I'm thinking places where I've been where they've got these

524
00:38:54,780 --> 00:38:59,400
windy little paths between things that I've lost in our lives down around the Constitution

525
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,640
or the City of London, you know, a long time. There's just places where this fabric

526
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,820
of the city pushes you off the river. You've got to go around and hold neighborhoods and come back

527
00:39:08,820 --> 00:39:14,920
and how do you get back to it? I understand the goal. I'm sorry we offered you a less

528
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,880
and a complete response.

529
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,020
I just sent clear markings and signage compatible

530
00:39:22,020 --> 00:39:25,960
with the way finding proposals by my earlier live,

531
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,100
the type of pedestrians and bicycles

532
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:30,400
to the mic and parking paths along the river

533
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,520
need to be included.

534
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,440
Yeah, so again, that leaves it open,

535
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,440
but you want to define it any further than that?

536
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:39,720
OK.

537
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,260
I want to talk to you.

538
00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:53,020
Okay, any thing else anybody want to stay at or bring up before we go through the criteria.

539
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:53,860
Thank you.

540
00:39:54,020 --> 00:39:59,980
This is the small set of criteria that we are used to judge the project.

541
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:09,300
Again, the design review criteria. Number one, preservation or reconstruction of the appropriate historic

542
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:15,460
style of the proposed projects and historic district, when involves any historic structure, acceptable.

543
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,480
Harmony, isn't that just doesn't apply, really?

544
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,360
Does it?

545
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,800
It's a new construction.

546
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:29,740
It's a new construction and preservation of reconstruction or reconstruction, so you want

547
00:40:29,740 --> 00:40:31,680
to say it does not apply then?

548
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:42,200
I mean, it's not reconstruction, it's a new construction, I mean it doesn't really make

549
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:48,060
any difference in our final piece anyway, but okay, I'll just say it not applicable then.

550
00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:56,680
Harmony of exterior design, whether the properties of the district acceptable, compatible to get

551
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:02,380
proposed exterior materials, whether the properties of the district, those are compatible,

552
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,520
compatibility of proposed landscaping, acceptable.

553
00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:11,460
Prevention of the use of incompatible designs, buildings, color schemes or exterior

554
00:41:11,460 --> 00:41:21,340
materials acceptable, location and appearance of all utilities, acceptable, recognition

555
00:41:21,340 --> 00:41:27,200
of respect for view quarters and significant vestits, including gateway views of the city

556
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,520
and state house acceptable,

557
00:41:33,380 --> 00:41:37,340
and with the seven recommendations and the two options that

558
00:41:37,340 --> 00:41:46,000
listed here and would be become part of that application. Any other changes, recommendations,

559
00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:55,120
suggestions, otherwise all in favor of the application with those changes, raise your right

560
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:55,640
hand.

561
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,720
I was going to abstain, but no.

562
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,120
You have to be more positive and courageous than anything.

563
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,580
We will let you down.

564
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:12,340
Thank you everybody for helping guide me through this and it's a much better project for I work

565
00:42:12,340 --> 00:42:14,240
together with I appreciate it.

566
00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:16,580
I need somebody willing to let your signature on.

567
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:19,420
Yes.

568
00:42:19,420 --> 00:42:19,460
Yes.

569
00:42:19,460 --> 00:42:20,420
It's a bit of a clear second.

570
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:21,800
Signature of that.

571
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:22,460
That's good.

572
00:42:22,620 --> 00:42:23,040
Thank you.

573
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:24,680
Thank

574
00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:29,340
you.

575
00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:31,820
Can I keep one set for my records?

576
00:42:32,140 --> 00:42:34,640
There's one folder into the agency and I'll just use it at the next meeting.

577
00:42:34,660 --> 00:42:34,940
Yes.

578
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:35,640
Awesome.

579
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:36,300
I'm sorry.

580
00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:37,540
We were having trouble with our prayer.

581
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,580
This is like this is to look at it.

582
00:42:44,940 --> 00:42:45,500
It is.

583
00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:46,100
It doesn't sure.

584
00:42:46,580 --> 00:42:46,720
Yep.

585
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:47,300
What's that?

586
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,460
It's just a chair.

587
00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:51,620
Open to make more copies.

588
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:53,740
Sure, if you tell me that.

589
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,180
Oh yeah.

590
00:42:54,820 --> 00:42:55,360
We've got this.

591
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:56,560
Okay.

592
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:57,960
Probably that's behind.

593
00:43:00,260 --> 00:43:01,120
It's an amazing view.

594
00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:02,420
Okay.

595
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,280
Thank you.

596
00:43:04,940 --> 00:43:05,820
Thank you.

597
00:43:06,620 --> 00:43:07,240
Thank you.

598
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,360
Oh, Greg, can I have my time?

599
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,080
Thanks.

600
00:43:12,180 --> 00:43:12,480
Thank you.

601
00:43:12,580 --> 00:43:12,780
Nope.

602
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:13,940
I just leave it here.

603
00:43:19,060 --> 00:43:23,020
The next application is for 79.85.

604
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:23,840
Very street.

605
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,080
Apple gun with belly pizza.

606
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,320
Come up and have a seat if I chair if there's somebody going to bowl up.

607
00:43:31,460 --> 00:43:31,660
Yep.

608
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:32,520
Get on it.

609
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:33,000
Come on.

610
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:35,960
Yeah, last time I did that.

611
00:43:36,060 --> 00:43:37,260
So they're showing me food.

612
00:43:38,580 --> 00:43:40,080
I'm here to represent Chasse.

613
00:43:41,020 --> 00:43:47,290
She had some exciting reading circumstances and wasn't able to make it tonight, it was wondering if you could table this until next week

614
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:54,300
Or next meeting and she would do that if you like great and she would be in touch with you via email just to turn with you

615
00:43:54,300 --> 00:44:01,440
Okay, yeah, she sent me here just to make sure that what was your name again Greg Hessleton spell your last name

616
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,320
H-E-S-S-E-L-T-O-N

617
00:44:08,140 --> 00:44:09,900
Okay, thanks so much

618
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:10,480
Thank you

619
00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:18,430
Next application is for 50 state street, Salam Bhoteek,

620
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,100
I will can coordinate this but I can

621
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:29,240
vote on it because it's on our building.

622
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:31,730
Good evening.

623
00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:32,870
Please subscribe your side.

624
00:44:33,290 --> 00:44:33,630
Hi.

625
00:44:33,850 --> 00:44:34,410
I'm one second.

626
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:35,010
I'm sorry.

627
00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:37,070
So, Martha's here.

628
00:44:38,370 --> 00:44:42,230
So, alternate should probably step down so Martha can step in.

629
00:44:43,350 --> 00:44:43,570
Okay.

630
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:48,210
I'm so sure when she was going to fish a little enter the.

631
00:44:48,270 --> 00:44:50,850
Yep, no today today is her official entry.

632
00:44:51,150 --> 00:44:55,150
So she can probably come up and you can everybody can sit here for this one.

633
00:44:55,350 --> 00:44:56,130
You can here.

634
00:44:56,690 --> 00:44:58,830
And for the camera and for the public.

635
00:44:59,070 --> 00:44:59,970
I'll let you ask her to do.

636
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,260
Alright. sorry.

637
00:45:01,540 --> 00:45:02,540
Oh, remember?

638
00:45:03,460 --> 00:45:06,980
So I do think the audience is saying it's a table when we part of this, right?

639
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:07,980
Yes, it's a game called.

640
00:45:08,020 --> 00:45:10,120
Yes, I mean, I don't know why to carry it.

641
00:45:10,340 --> 00:45:12,520
I think somebody could vote well.

642
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,260
Oh, but so, hi, I'm Martha.

643
00:45:16,660 --> 00:45:19,040
I'm Martha Smirskie. This is my first time.

644
00:45:20,140 --> 00:45:21,380
So, thanks for having me.

645
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,640
This is our new regular design review committee member.

646
00:45:27,140 --> 00:45:33,080
So that we are now full full up five regular and two alternates.

647
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:33,540
Good.

648
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,360
Thank you.

649
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,760
And if you're going to show yourself.

650
00:45:37,780 --> 00:45:38,620
Hi, I'm Sharon.

651
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,640
Why then I am the manager of Salam Boutique at 50 State Street and not Pealier.

652
00:45:44,620 --> 00:45:49,500
I'm also standing in for Andrea Mixick who could not be here this evening.

653
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,560
And I'm happy to begin.

654
00:46:00,820 --> 00:46:01,740
Happy to have a good day.

655
00:46:01,740 --> 00:46:02,080
I do.

656
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:02,880
We can do it.

657
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:03,280
There you go.

658
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,220
No worries.

659
00:46:08,970 --> 00:46:12,830
See, your carbonation is so robust that I'd say it.

660
00:46:13,630 --> 00:46:19,170
We have supposedly somebody's coming to do some work done in.

661
00:46:20,730 --> 00:46:22,310
Some work tell us.

662
00:46:22,730 --> 00:46:23,690
So somewhere is the project.

663
00:46:24,650 --> 00:46:33,470
So we, at the end of July, moved to from Forty State Street, where we had been 17 years or

664
00:46:33,470 --> 00:46:48,170
as Salam Bhutik 250 State Street, which was Vermont trading company space and we've been occupying that space very happily since the end of July.

665
00:46:49,370 --> 00:47:02,610
And would need to have a sign, although this space outside as it was for Vermont trading company and the diagram of the outlines are there.

666
00:47:02,610 --> 00:47:04,030
in the

667
00:47:06,210 --> 00:47:06,670
application.

668
00:47:07,350 --> 00:47:15,310
We would like to stay with our branding, which is the oval with the eye for salon

669
00:47:15,310 --> 00:47:24,010
with the teak and feel that the current diagram of the picture really speaks to our branding

670
00:47:24,010 --> 00:47:28,510
and is a nice fit for the space.

671
00:47:28,990 --> 00:47:31,150
Do you know how accurately this is represented?

672
00:47:31,710 --> 00:47:33,490
Is this going to break this?

673
00:47:34,010 --> 00:47:35,530
Is this not going to break it?

674
00:47:35,630 --> 00:47:40,990
It's actually unfortunately just a little bit of a...

675
00:47:40,990 --> 00:47:44,270
I don't know if I would say a miscue, or it just wasn't aligned properly.

676
00:47:44,550 --> 00:47:45,590
The picture is...

677
00:47:45,590 --> 00:47:47,130
I assume it's going to go with it in the side.

678
00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:48,030
Absolutely.

679
00:47:55,870 --> 00:47:56,050
Yep.

680
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:56,570
Sorry.

681
00:47:56,910 --> 00:47:58,570
And is

682
00:48:06,020 --> 00:48:06,800
it a brushed aluminum?

683
00:48:07,220 --> 00:48:07,960
It is a brushed aluminum.

684
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:24,640
which is a bit different than what we have done in the past, however, with the expansion

685
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:30,940
and the growth of 17 years bringing us forward into a really wonderful space and a more

686
00:48:30,940 --> 00:48:38,480
current contemporary look and if you've been to the new location you would know by coming

687
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:45,440
in that the sign-out side actually matches what we believe the interior message to be.

688
00:48:45,440 --> 00:49:01,300
It's very contemporary, it seems to fit the town dynamic and view, and we are pretty pleased with the design itself.

689
00:49:03,290 --> 00:49:14,310
So it was the better painting, so without being the design person that's kind of a difficult

690
00:49:14,310 --> 00:49:20,770
question to answer except that it's brushed aluminum and then etched and then actually

691
00:49:21,290 --> 00:49:28,670
outlined with black, a thin black line around the outside of the sign.

692
00:49:28,670 --> 00:49:35,970
There was a little bit of this patch, yes, I think you got it, yes, that's pretty good, absolutely, but I'm going to look at it a little bit.

693
00:49:36,350 --> 00:49:42,810
There was our indications of where the where it will be placed, how it will be placed.

694
00:49:43,410 --> 00:49:44,870
Yeah, anchor, that's a good word, yes.

695
00:49:46,090 --> 00:49:48,870
Or the appropriate word, thank you.

696
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:57,350
You said there would be a pinstriper around the car, absolutely.

697
00:49:57,570 --> 00:49:59,970
Oh, yes, yes, it wasn't showing on the back.

698
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:08,000
I know, and we didn't get a revised diagram to show that, but actually it makes the sign itself stand out.

699
00:50:08,580 --> 00:50:10,760
But that'd be black or the color of them.

700
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,680
It would be black.

701
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,100
That was just hit her that here, just to clarify it.

702
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:17,720
Absolutely.

703
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,320
Can you ever use an existing light in this place?

704
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:21,120
We are.

705
00:50:41,420 --> 00:50:47,020
In the email here, it says something about the brushed aluminum panel needs to project slightly above

706
00:50:47,020 --> 00:50:51,820
this off at lower trim. Right, so that's where that was just discussing with this picture here.

707
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:57,120
It's got to go up. Okay, and it fits within that, wouldn't that scheme? Okay, let's go.

708
00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:10,360
Any other questions, comments?

709
00:51:14,060 --> 00:51:20,640
17 years at the old location with that very old wooden sign and now we're looking to establish at least that

710
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,600
less and more in a more contemporary fashion.

711
00:51:25,260 --> 00:51:30,080
Do you give a copy of the criteria for a little thing?

712
00:51:30,220 --> 00:51:32,680
I don't usually create access.

713
00:51:34,180 --> 00:51:35,180
I'm sorry.

714
00:51:36,740 --> 00:51:41,120
Preservation, reconstruction of a incorporated start style.

715
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,280
It's a historic district and it's made us acceptable.

716
00:51:57,050 --> 00:51:59,230
Harmony of exterior design is other properties.

717
00:51:59,230 --> 00:52:01,050
And it districts acceptable,

718
00:52:05,770 --> 00:52:09,550
compatibility for post-exterior materials with other properties

719
00:52:09,550 --> 00:52:11,070
in the district, acceptable,

720
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:15,920
since your sign has been in the district for a while.

721
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:16,580
Thank you.

722
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:23,800
compatibility, compatibility of proposed landscaping with the district, it's not applicable.

723
00:52:25,740 --> 00:52:31,540
Prevention that you should incompatible design, spellings, cars, schemes, that's acceptable.

724
00:52:31,540 --> 00:52:41,880
are you doing any lighting not additionally no location and appearance of all

725
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:52,700
utilities that the recognition of a respect for view carders I would say that

726
00:52:52,700 --> 00:52:53,960
that's not applicable.

727
00:52:56,860 --> 00:52:59,200
Performance with city skate placement design

728
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,000
recommendations acceptable.

729
00:53:05,730 --> 00:53:09,450
A lot of skier, significant, made of it.

730
00:53:09,590 --> 00:53:10,130
I'm missing one.

731
00:53:11,110 --> 00:53:15,810
Compatibility was subject properly in case of properties acceptable.

732
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,200
A lot of skier architectural details acceptable.

733
00:53:28,620 --> 00:53:32,000
Illumination and terminally lit signs are prohibited.

734
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,920
This is acceptable.

735
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,800
Penits and banners are prohibited except

736
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,800
just public announcement and stuff that will not happen.

737
00:53:42,730 --> 00:53:48,610
I think the elimination is, uh, uh, uh, uh,

738
00:53:49,250 --> 00:53:50,110
what they're suggesting.

739
00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:57,500
And individual letters of fixture,

740
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,140
page of very courage, uh,

741
00:54:00,940 --> 00:54:02,740
such as

742
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:10,330
these things don't exactly line up.

743
00:54:10,330 --> 00:54:12,150
Yeah, we've got to do the major and

744
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:17,090
And it's in banners are not prohibited.

745
00:54:17,450 --> 00:54:18,210
That's not applicable.

746
00:54:30,010 --> 00:54:31,830
I should sign it for all of you.

747
00:54:36,210 --> 00:54:37,470
Just get a boat on that.

748
00:54:37,550 --> 00:54:38,230
Yeah, get a boat.

749
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:41,960
All in favor?

750
00:54:44,170 --> 00:54:45,010
Oh no.

751
00:54:48,210 --> 00:54:49,070
Any opposed?

752
00:54:57,860 --> 00:54:58,980
It's so...

753
00:55:03,380 --> 00:55:04,940
Yes, are you done?

754
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,060
And they need to have your side.

755
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:07,540
Okay.

756
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,880
Just write about his name there.

757
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:11,900
Okay, may I borrow this?

758
00:55:14,670 --> 00:55:15,010
Okay.

759
00:55:23,820 --> 00:55:24,340
Great,

760
00:55:31,410 --> 00:55:33,650
well, thank you. Welcome to the law again.

761
00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:34,950
Come and see us.

762
00:55:35,350 --> 00:55:37,230
Our office will be in touch with the private.

763
00:55:37,570 --> 00:55:38,090
Absolutely.

764
00:55:38,090 --> 00:55:40,250
Thank you so much. Have a wonderful evening.

765
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:42,170
I have that. You're so amazing.

766
00:55:42,450 --> 00:55:43,210
Thank you for coming.

767
00:55:50,220 --> 00:55:59,500
The next application is for 28 school street.

768
00:55:59,620 --> 00:56:02,580
Applicant Maria, Stanford, pronounce your name.

769
00:56:02,900 --> 00:56:03,300
So far.

770
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:03,820
So far.

771
00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:06,140
Hi.

772
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:07,040
Hi.

773
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,940
And describe your application.

774
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:20,840
We are applying to enlarge our sign, so it's the same size as the other businesses in the directory and add a sign to our funder.

775
00:56:26,090 --> 00:56:27,310
Your name is Bill, right?

776
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:27,790
Yeah.

777
00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:32,220
So,

778
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,680
as we both do, this is fine.

779
00:56:36,860 --> 00:56:37,620
You were interesting.

780
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,740
This is a lot of the things you wanted by the other side.

781
00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:40,540
Yep.

782
00:56:41,860 --> 00:56:41,920
Yep.

783
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:42,080
Oh.

784
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,540
You have the best look.

785
00:56:43,540 --> 00:56:44,280
You have the change.

786
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,560
You can read a little better to add this.

787
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,040
I was on an already usually black.

788
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,380
I would have to do something other than this one.

789
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,000
The gold?

790
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:57,000
Because even just looking at this, it fades out.

791
00:56:57,060 --> 00:56:58,320
It's like down here.

792
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,700
I don't know if you're designing or looking at that.

793
00:57:00,740 --> 00:57:01,340
I just don't know.

794
00:57:01,340 --> 00:57:02,180
Just a recommendation.

795
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:04,680
You see, it's like it really drops out.

796
00:57:04,940 --> 00:57:05,440
And it's competing.

797
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:06,460
Yeah?

798
00:57:06,460 --> 00:57:07,060
It gets the white.

799
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:12,940
The only thing that's not depicted is the black frame that will go around it

800
00:57:12,940 --> 00:57:15,140
so that they can hang the body.

801
00:57:15,420 --> 00:57:18,060
So it's currently black on the green sign,

802
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,180
that's the original, and it will be black on this.

803
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,780
Can you?

804
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,540
It's a little water pot chip, you know?

805
00:57:24,820 --> 00:57:25,640
Yeah, it's nice.

806
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,180
Some comments.

807
00:57:27,060 --> 00:57:27,400
There it is.

808
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,500
So the door sign is there.

809
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,680
I need to use why we could put that to the back of the door.

810
00:57:36,740 --> 00:57:37,580
I don't know how to do it.

811
00:57:37,660 --> 00:57:38,700
We definitely can.

812
00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:43,980
That space might not be the same size.

813
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:51,580
There are what might be columns built into the architecture on the front of the building.

814
00:57:53,810 --> 00:58:03,440
That might be a pass-back size, but it could certainly run different fashion.

815
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:03,440
I

816
00:58:05,580 --> 00:58:06,740
don't know.

817
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:07,080
I don't know.

818
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:07,700
I don't know.

819
00:58:07,700 --> 00:58:08,000
I don't know.

820
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:08,960
I don't know.

821
00:58:08,980 --> 00:58:10,440
But yes, absolutely.

822
00:58:11,700 --> 00:58:13,820
Everybody knows where my agency is in here.

823
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,740
Well, the interest, that's why we're here, the interesting thing is that probably

824
00:58:18,740 --> 00:58:25,080
weekly, someone is lured in by the smell that they don't actually know we're there, because

825
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:34,460
the current sign blends in as a directory for a business that might not be a retail

826
00:58:34,460 --> 00:58:43,020
good service and it doesn't have any of the pieces of the logo that appears on the

827
00:58:43,020 --> 00:58:48,960
front label so people really don't know where they are and we've been there for 38 years

828
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,540
I'm not going to call you.

829
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,400
I'm going to do every...

830
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:54,260
every, I'm...

831
00:58:54,260 --> 00:58:56,680
school getting useful and I'll share their for sure.

832
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:57,700
Yeah, they do.

833
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,820
What is the sign of hundreds of 28?

834
00:59:02,820 --> 00:59:05,060
Oh, it's the business hours.

835
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:06,280
Okay.

836
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:06,940
Yep.

837
00:59:07,580 --> 00:59:08,280
Oh, thank you.

838
00:59:08,380 --> 00:59:08,700
Yep.

839
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,340
We are the only business that you find when you enter the front door.

840
00:59:20,790 --> 00:59:23,170
Would you have enough room if you...

841
00:59:24,550 --> 00:59:34,210
Where this lay out here, specials, you could take the day off, stack it up, up this,

842
00:59:34,450 --> 00:59:40,390
7 or 4 of a rectangle, it might fit directly underneath your house.

843
00:59:42,610 --> 00:59:43,510
Is that a possibility?

844
00:59:43,770 --> 00:59:44,570
Yeah, for sure.

845
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:50,070
And then it wouldn't be on the doorway, so you just kind of see to remove the wall that's there.

846
00:59:50,070 --> 00:59:58,770
I don't believe that one would say instead of putting this on the door he would think it would be more compatible.

847
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:17,240
Take the voices today, specials, just to take that portion of the proportion of the sign that says today, specials, and stack that directly above your proposed sign. And then mouth that directly underneath the store hours. So everything is on a column.

848
01:00:18,980 --> 01:00:21,660
The one that's there is store hours, etc.

849
01:00:22,140 --> 01:00:23,260
It is.

850
01:00:23,260 --> 01:00:25,620
It is.

851
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,720
This one says money to Friday night to Friday.

852
01:00:30,980 --> 01:00:34,580
So actually you could take, if there's no other information on that,

853
01:00:34,620 --> 01:00:37,800
the hours on how I do could take that one down and move this over

854
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:38,760
and have it rectangular.

855
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:41,060
I'm sure.

856
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:44,160
Do you have it?

857
01:00:44,340 --> 01:00:44,760
That sounds great.

858
01:00:44,980 --> 01:00:45,840
I don't think so.

859
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:51,040
So I think that people, the interesting thing is when we put something on the door, when

860
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,440
we were noticing that people didn't know where we were.

861
01:00:54,540 --> 01:00:59,460
The minute they could see the front door with some type of notification from the streets,

862
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,340
they could find us.

863
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:07,960
And the yellow piece that's off on the right hand side with our store hours is small so

864
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,900
you couldn't read it from the sidewalk.

865
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:19,000
So, I think whether it was right on the door, it was on the side, wouldn't matter, as long

866
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,500
as it was large enough for some of this.

867
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,920
I think it would be noticeable with the red.

868
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:26,480
Yeah.

869
01:01:26,820 --> 01:01:27,680
Above it.

870
01:01:27,780 --> 01:01:28,060
Oh, yeah.

871
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:33,940
I think that's certainly, I mean, from any distance, that red attraction attention, and then

872
01:01:33,940 --> 01:01:41,960
If you would this spring paint their sign below that, again, what you're going to see is contrast.

873
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:51,700
So if you've got a lighter color background in this, so the yellowish off white color that you have here with a black lettering on it.

874
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:59,800
I think that I paint the contrast will be more noticeable, because I'm looking at this sign and it's hard to tell what it says,

875
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:05,300
although it's much more clear with the one that's on the door even as small as it is there.

876
01:02:05,900 --> 01:02:06,420
Soon,

877
01:02:08,670 --> 01:02:11,730
we're trying to get more footpathic and this is a totally different idea.

878
01:02:12,790 --> 01:02:18,010
Completely ignore it, but it does seem to me like you would be pretty awesome to have just like

879
01:02:18,010 --> 01:02:24,690
bread sitting out there, you know, almost as like a... I'm thinking more like the

880
01:02:24,690 --> 01:02:28,110
daughter of a foreign sort of like honor system like a couple of clothes.

881
01:02:28,110 --> 01:02:32,610
Oh yeah, you would pay you know they're just talking about oh that's what's right there

882
01:02:32,610 --> 01:02:37,690
and that's he's the son and he's some actual like clothes of Brad Hanna nice to have David.

883
01:02:38,730 --> 01:02:40,130
That's wonderful for the squirrel.

884
01:02:41,770 --> 01:02:42,450
Good point.

885
01:02:43,010 --> 01:02:46,950
No I don't mean I actually mean like loaves wrapped up in plastic as well.

886
01:02:47,190 --> 01:02:54,670
Yeah, they love the children and they live in the bushes outside waiting.

887
01:02:54,670 --> 01:03:00,790
I think it's a fabulous idea, but yeah, you've already got a mark.

888
01:03:01,030 --> 01:03:02,570
We can't do it.

889
01:03:02,970 --> 01:03:03,630
There we go.

890
01:03:04,450 --> 01:03:06,510
I totally amazed it's been on a break.

891
01:03:06,790 --> 01:03:08,390
You can turn out in that place.

892
01:03:09,490 --> 01:03:13,050
So now on today's specials, do you have something on there?

893
01:03:13,090 --> 01:03:17,010
We do, yes, little, little placards that we can change in and out.

894
01:03:17,390 --> 01:03:17,710
Okay.

895
01:03:18,490 --> 01:03:23,930
So again, if you do the sign vertically, you could put that either above or below the other sign.

896
01:03:24,730 --> 01:03:29,410
Whichever you think is more readable, you could actually almost make two signs to

897
01:03:31,260 --> 01:03:38,000
Break tangular signs vertically and then mouth of one above or below the other

898
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,240
whichever one will make more sense

899
01:03:59,150 --> 01:04:13,950
What are you putting in, like, okay, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, right here, I've never asked John about that, at least on his, the front of his building.

900
01:04:14,930 --> 01:04:24,530
Again, one of the criteria is going to have to be slim enough so that you're not going to want to hide in any of the architectural details.

901
01:04:24,530 --> 01:04:28,430
That's a really special entry way there.

902
01:04:29,110 --> 01:04:31,450
No, we don't use the input today.

903
01:04:32,070 --> 01:04:33,850
The people that live in the building.

904
01:04:34,350 --> 01:04:35,870
There's three-ten and sub-series.

905
01:04:38,590 --> 01:04:39,030
Thank you.

906
01:04:39,150 --> 01:04:45,230
With the colors, with the red and the colors of your proposed sign.

907
01:04:46,590 --> 01:04:47,090
All right.

908
01:04:47,130 --> 01:04:47,750
All right.

909
01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:47,910
All right.

910
01:04:48,750 --> 01:04:48,770
All right.

911
01:04:48,770 --> 01:04:51,110
Where are the hours are now?

912
01:04:51,330 --> 01:04:52,530
I think that would.

913
01:04:52,530 --> 01:04:55,030
I think that would certainly be noticeable.

914
01:04:56,170 --> 01:04:57,410
And protected from the winter.

915
01:04:58,010 --> 01:04:58,250
Yes.

916
01:04:59,010 --> 01:04:59,910
Especially when you have to.

917
01:05:03,420 --> 01:05:09,740
It's certainly a lot easier rather than having that to get on the ladder for poster specials.

918
01:05:09,740 --> 01:05:11,180
It's hanging up all the way.

919
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,840
And swinging in the wind. Look at your sister, that job.

920
01:05:17,140 --> 01:05:19,440
Another, I want to throw this one out.

921
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,500
Okay, there's no go ahead.

922
01:05:23,260 --> 01:05:27,480
You could put Manky's breath right along this side stack.

923
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,660
It could be pretty cool.

924
01:05:30,300 --> 01:05:31,340
I need idea to do it.

925
01:05:31,500 --> 01:05:35,440
You could stack Maggie's bread right here.

926
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:36,600
Bigger letters.

927
01:05:40,970 --> 01:05:42,350
Certainly would advertise.

928
01:05:44,250 --> 01:05:46,890
I don't have any problem with it being on the door.

929
01:05:47,370 --> 01:05:50,110
I seem to mean about it really drawing people to that door.

930
01:05:51,050 --> 01:05:51,170
Yeah.

931
01:05:51,170 --> 01:05:52,450
I don't even know what you're had.

932
01:05:55,710 --> 01:05:55,990
Yeah.

933
01:05:58,930 --> 01:06:06,050
If we're, I, I was a, if we're talking about down this side, if it's a different calculation.

934
01:06:06,790 --> 01:06:11,210
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have it. I'm going to be free now.

935
01:06:11,450 --> 01:06:12,430
Should we start talking about it inside?

936
01:06:12,450 --> 01:06:15,510
If you start throwing things away at them and that can go back to the end of the time,

937
01:06:15,650 --> 01:06:19,570
then the building's not a choice, and the nature we can actually do that.

938
01:06:19,950 --> 01:06:22,390
But if you make the recommendation, then we can do the calculation.

939
01:06:23,170 --> 01:06:23,450
Yeah.

940
01:06:24,150 --> 01:06:29,270
I think it's the only thing to decide on the door, I don't know, it swings out, right?

941
01:06:29,450 --> 01:06:29,630
The door?

942
01:06:30,810 --> 01:06:33,050
I mean, it's still a bite-good habit by the kids.

943
01:06:33,450 --> 01:06:35,230
That it's right at the door, right at their level.

944
01:06:38,270 --> 01:06:41,570
We're completely comfortable having it in either place.

945
01:06:42,070 --> 01:06:44,450
And I think it's very easy to see.

946
01:06:45,730 --> 01:06:46,670
On the side.

947
01:06:47,110 --> 01:06:47,310
Yeah.

948
01:06:51,690 --> 01:06:53,330
What would be your preference?

949
01:06:54,050 --> 01:06:59,350
I think that the side would work fine if that's what the agreement is.

950
01:07:00,830 --> 01:07:06,950
I don't think we'd even considered another option, so that is just fine.

951
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,200
We'll have to figure out who's actually holding on this one.

952
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:58,060
I just said that applicant has the option for a rectangular sign to be located and on the vertical

953
01:08:58,060 --> 01:09:04,080
caseings on either side of the entry door using the same design components and colors currently

954
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:11,280
proposed. Is that, say, would you like on the contrast as well?

955
01:09:12,380 --> 01:09:14,020
That's a larger direction.

956
01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:25,820
So again, the recommendation is for a darker pinstripe.

957
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,300
How would you want another letter? Just a higher contrast.

958
01:09:29,300 --> 01:09:31,920
That's an option.

959
01:10:56,430 --> 01:11:03,950
As the option to use darker colored, pinstrible lettering and logo on the larger ground sign, and the same color to form proof readability.

960
01:11:05,150 --> 01:11:06,530
Does that say would you,

961
01:11:09,220 --> 01:11:14,480
any other questions, comments, suggestions? I'll read through the criteria then.

962
01:11:15,020 --> 01:11:21,860
Number one, hey, preservation of reconstruction of the appropriate historic style of those projects is in the historic district.

963
01:11:21,860 --> 01:11:28,100
of obstinous structure, acceptable, harmony of exterior design with other properties, acceptable,

964
01:11:29,380 --> 01:11:35,360
compatibility, a proposed exterior, materials, acceptable, compatibility for post landscaping

965
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:40,360
not proposed in this application, prevention of the use of incompatible designs, buildings,

966
01:11:40,580 --> 01:11:45,720
color schemes or exterior materials, acceptable, location of appearance, all utilities,

967
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,720
There's no change and there's no lighting on the sign.

968
01:11:50,740 --> 01:11:54,640
Recognition of and respect for view quarters, not applicable with this location.

969
01:11:55,740 --> 01:11:59,300
Conformance with city-skate placement and design recommendations acceptable.

970
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:03,400
Commitability with subject property and adjacent property is acceptable.

971
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,720
She'll not obscure significant architectural details, acceptable.

972
01:12:08,540 --> 01:12:12,240
Consistency and uniformity of multiple signs, not applicable here.

973
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:18,140
illumination, internally lit, out of applicable, and it's in vanners, not applicable.

974
01:12:18,820 --> 01:12:23,180
Individual letters are fixed, painted, or engraved, or rectangular structure, are encouraged,

975
01:12:24,140 --> 01:12:28,240
acceptable. All in favor of the application is proposed with the options,

976
01:12:28,700 --> 01:12:30,940
which again. Somebody has to say,

977
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,280
somebody has to say, nobody, I'm not noting who's.

978
01:12:40,060 --> 01:12:43,200
Unless you need to, okay.

979
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,000
In a minute's note.

980
01:12:44,220 --> 01:12:46,900
Then you pick somebody who's that, who's like doesn't count.

981
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:52,880
Ah, I mean, it would be Ben, this is the alternate.

982
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,300
This needs to mean, but that's right.

983
01:12:59,050 --> 01:12:59,270
Okay.

984
01:13:03,260 --> 01:13:04,920
If you want to sit in, I'll drop off.

985
01:13:12,260 --> 01:13:14,920
And maybe you could choose to sign this one.

986
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,000
right there about my name

987
01:13:21,490 --> 01:13:27,470
over loving and then favor the next development

988
01:13:27,470 --> 01:13:29,570
review board meeting with the

989
01:13:32,650 --> 01:13:40,210
okay this this is administrative okay good thank you

990
01:13:42,010 --> 01:13:42,610
Yes.

991
01:13:53,110 --> 01:13:54,310
Things alone.

992
01:13:56,570 --> 01:13:58,130
These are probably more of those maintenance.

993
01:13:59,450 --> 01:14:00,050
Kind

994
01:14:06,030 --> 01:14:06,630
of.

995
01:14:06,730 --> 01:14:06,890
Okay.

996
01:14:07,190 --> 01:14:08,510
22 main street.

997
01:14:09,330 --> 01:14:11,390
Point for Melton and John Beard's building.

998
01:14:13,130 --> 01:14:14,970
Describe your application.

999
01:14:18,620 --> 01:14:19,420
I'm going to answer that.

1000
01:14:19,620 --> 01:14:21,880
We're going to have to text on your own or your own.

1001
01:14:22,260 --> 01:14:22,480
Hi.

1002
01:14:23,580 --> 01:14:28,200
This is a relation to the rear fire skate on the building that there's been.

1003
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:32,100
and it's deteriorating condition, and we had looked at options of replacement there.

1004
01:14:32,220 --> 01:14:35,840
It was an engineering report that indicated it would really need to be replaced.

1005
01:14:36,900 --> 01:14:39,680
That it's cost to do that with really prohibitively expensive.

1006
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,540
We looked at several options including a spiral, which was simpler and smaller,

1007
01:14:44,020 --> 01:14:48,800
but we couldn't meet the, like, safety requirements that was today, it was so important here.

1008
01:14:50,480 --> 01:14:56,480
It was pointed out by Mr. Lungel, Chris Lumbra, that, because of the sprinkling that it occurred recently here,

1009
01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:59,980
and with the other accident in the building that they do not need this.

1010
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,280
I could literally come off. So that's really what we were supposed to do, just be to take it off. So you've got an image of what it is.

1011
01:15:09,260 --> 01:15:21,740
And then we would be returning these two locations where the doors were to windows. They'd be a Markin flag window, which we were matching existing color of the other windows.

1012
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:31,560
And then doing a brick infill, the beast window, two infill, but yes, that's what we're

1013
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:32,340
looking at.

1014
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,460
There are sort of theories of which to do there, whether you're toothed in, do you do it

1015
01:15:36,460 --> 01:15:36,720
in set?

1016
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,320
Filming a door in the restaurant.

1017
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:40,460
Seems that way.

1018
01:15:40,860 --> 01:15:43,940
Yeah, there are certainly historic, and there are other pressurists on the building where some

1019
01:15:43,940 --> 01:15:47,220
have been infilled, straight line and that some have been toothed in.

1020
01:15:47,460 --> 01:15:51,380
I just think the inset looks good better because you're never going to match the

1021
01:15:52,340 --> 01:15:53,820
And it tells the story.

1022
01:15:54,060 --> 01:15:58,740
In this case, I wouldn't think of that, we'd break.

1023
01:16:00,180 --> 01:16:02,080
Well, that was out of that, whether it should just be a panel.

1024
01:16:02,480 --> 01:16:04,780
Yeah, I think it could be either.

1025
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,180
I don't know what you guys have any preference, it's only be cheaper.

1026
01:16:12,300 --> 01:16:16,040
And then we're pretty, this is just to show how we're matching the color of the, the

1027
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:23,040
the cloud and the existing window turn. Is it a double home or is it double home?

1028
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:29,400
Yeah, well basically be good. Double home has the others are. It will also be the

1029
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:36,380
rest of the people below, because it needs to be. So that's never the race to the same

1030
01:16:36,380 --> 01:16:41,080
level as the other windows or when they be constructed below the upper panel.

1031
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:45,360
We'll take it to the same level so that the head will match.

1032
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:50,080
Basically head and base will match or try to match that level.

1033
01:16:55,040 --> 01:17:00,880
There are granite seals beneath the edges, but again with this being a former door we work.

1034
01:17:02,500 --> 01:17:04,500
So that's kind of in a nutshell where it is.

1035
01:17:04,500 --> 01:17:07,880
I think setting it back would be.

1036
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:08,520
Yeah.

1037
01:17:09,660 --> 01:17:12,060
Well, apparently the client is an ex-door.

1038
01:17:16,540 --> 01:17:19,480
It might be simpler and thinner in a way.

1039
01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:22,760
Yeah, it would be fine.

1040
01:17:23,140 --> 01:17:23,560
I'd like to.

1041
01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:24,540
I'd like to.

1042
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,680
Well, we might do.

1043
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:27,220
I'd like to.

1044
01:17:27,380 --> 01:17:27,960
I'd like to.

1045
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,280
Because a lot of issues were using some moral panels.

1046
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,820
So that there isn't that there's some kind of painted.

1047
01:17:32,820 --> 01:17:38,520
If we were to go to a route of that nature, I would suggest that so that it's maintenance-free.

1048
01:17:38,700 --> 01:17:39,560
It's a composite.

1049
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:45,760
So you want to give the option that you use the lower panel under,

1050
01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:49,320
can be or can fill or a composite panel?

1051
01:17:51,260 --> 01:17:51,540
Okay.

1052
01:18:02,260 --> 01:18:03,840
You probably agree with the panel.

1053
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:06,920
Could be.

1054
01:18:07,340 --> 01:18:07,460
No.

1055
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:14,460
Much blocked next door with Eric who's doing the same thing or it's set back.

1056
01:18:17,250 --> 01:18:17,510
Yeah.

1057
01:18:21,220 --> 01:18:23,480
The word he's on and the word about matching color.

1058
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:24,260
Yeah.

1059
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,740
That little probably stand out less in a way.

1060
01:18:47,740 --> 01:18:49,500
Any other questions, comments, suggestions?

1061
01:18:50,540 --> 01:18:53,780
So the panel will be flat metal for you.

1062
01:18:53,780 --> 01:18:55,520
I'm going to do a flat metal.

1063
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:57,200
You'll be flat metal.

1064
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,640
I would think because of this size,

1065
01:18:59,020 --> 01:19:01,260
we've been flat with probably will be trimmed around.

1066
01:19:01,260 --> 01:19:12,360
I don't think what I would repeat the granite.

1067
01:19:15,730 --> 01:19:17,790
So these units come with a...

1068
01:19:17,790 --> 01:19:21,270
There's a certain portion of silver comes with a clan with a grip.

1069
01:19:22,690 --> 01:19:26,810
Actually I think you can maybe get some clan material to cover the silver.

1070
01:19:27,010 --> 01:19:28,210
So that would totally match.

1071
01:19:28,210 --> 01:19:34,110
We wouldn't be the same depth as the grass, but they'd get out of the clouds.

1072
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:38,740
I see there's nothing proposed.

1073
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:41,560
Nothing changing any of that at this point.

1074
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,860
All the previous anchor points, how are you doing?

1075
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,420
They would be filled.

1076
01:19:50,460 --> 01:19:51,280
They're a parent.

1077
01:19:52,440 --> 01:19:54,340
Some would have been in more or some in brick profit.

1078
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:11,340
So, again, the only thing we had, it was the end felt below the two new windows, which are replacing the existing door openings. Maybe break or composite material.

1079
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:18,520
You want to be any other specificity other than that.

1080
01:20:20,300 --> 01:20:21,760
You can mention that.

1081
01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:22,760
Black, right? Still.

1082
01:20:23,620 --> 01:20:24,520
That'd be fine.

1083
01:20:46,450 --> 01:20:51,750
So, we'll go through the criteria. Number one, preservation or reconstruction of the appropriate historic style.

1084
01:20:51,750 --> 01:20:57,070
of the proposed projects in the historic district, in some of our many of the exterior designs

1085
01:20:57,070 --> 01:21:02,250
of the properties in the district except of the possibility of proposed exterior materials.

1086
01:21:02,630 --> 01:21:07,730
It's a possibility of the proposed landscaping proposed prevention of the use of

1087
01:21:07,730 --> 01:21:13,330
the designs, buildings, color schemes or exterior materials except of the location on a

1088
01:21:13,330 --> 01:21:17,830
appearance of all utilities, no change in utilities or lighting of any kind.

1089
01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:24,050
not applicable, recognition of and respect their view quarters and the back of the building I would say that's not applicable.

1090
01:21:24,930 --> 01:21:27,190
All in favor of the application with those options.

1091
01:21:38,500 --> 01:21:42,880
Steve, where it says relocate cable box entry, that's not anything to do with utilities.

1092
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:44,840
Is that correct?

1093
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:50,840
On the last page, there's an indication where they're going to relocate the cable box entry.

1094
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:55,280
It's right now, you see it in the photograph, it's above and we're going to put it below.

1095
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,880
Okay, which actually will show less than a panel properly than in the summer.

1096
01:21:59,420 --> 01:22:01,500
It's really got to fill that up, probably in it.

1097
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,220
It's changing as far as the utility is sitting.

1098
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:06,520
Okay.

1099
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:07,500
So we're not adding anything.

1100
01:22:07,500 --> 01:22:09,360
You can see it's here where it is now.

1101
01:22:09,660 --> 01:22:10,080
Oh, I see.

1102
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:11,900
I see. So then it goes down.

1103
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:13,040
Yeah.

1104
01:22:13,100 --> 01:22:14,880
I want to be able to sign that.

1105
01:22:15,140 --> 01:22:15,740
I'll talk about it later.

1106
01:22:16,380 --> 01:22:17,760
It has a great hearing.

1107
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:18,480
We have for that one.

1108
01:22:18,700 --> 01:22:19,600
For all that.

1109
01:22:31,980 --> 01:22:32,240
Okay.

1110
01:22:33,100 --> 01:22:33,160
Thanks.

1111
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:33,920
Thank you very much.

1112
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:39,420
So I'm going to stay for the next one.

1113
01:22:43,820 --> 01:22:44,360
OK, we'll be quick.

1114
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,060
So basically this is also made.

1115
01:22:48,580 --> 01:22:52,580
Below this siding down below is basically rotting.

1116
01:22:52,860 --> 01:22:54,480
And so we're looking to replace it actually.

1117
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,320
The project is going to do that.

1118
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,740
And what we're going to use again is a ball product.

1119
01:23:00,380 --> 01:23:02,020
But this is called a nickel gap.

1120
01:23:02,580 --> 01:23:09,340
Basically, it'll emulate the shrinkage cracks that are in the material there, so it'll look very much like nap now.

1121
01:23:10,660 --> 01:23:15,900
And it's a totally inert material, and we've seen it, we've soaked a bit for months in water, and it doesn't run.

1122
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:23,060
We've often let it use the tint of division as a loud, down low, where things typically deteriorate, and it just doesn't do it.

1123
01:23:25,010 --> 01:23:30,910
That's a different profile. We'll be, again, that nickel-app, which is kind of a shift-lap, but with this, it's incorrect.

1124
01:23:30,910 --> 01:23:31,910
What is the material?

1125
01:23:33,430 --> 01:23:37,190
It's a fly ash, basically, material.

1126
01:23:37,470 --> 01:23:38,490
That's sort of a...

1127
01:23:38,490 --> 01:23:41,590
And a ponding page into some sort

1128
01:23:44,980 --> 01:23:45,800
of...

1129
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:46,500
That's the guns, right?

1130
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:57,780
The color, if the owner, we looked at having to be informed with the rest of the building and the colors and the black windows and such, but they wanted to keep this sort of identity of themselves and with their sign above.

1131
01:23:58,220 --> 01:23:59,580
So it'll be matching,

1132
01:24:01,830 --> 01:24:02,810
matching what's there.

1133
01:24:03,330 --> 01:24:04,550
So again, it's just that lower.

1134
01:24:04,550 --> 01:24:09,170
It's the lower part, the rest will be painted, but it's only the lower part to get replaced.

1135
01:24:11,070 --> 01:24:13,110
Payed at the same time. Same color.

1136
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:14,490
Yeah. Right top.

1137
01:24:16,530 --> 01:24:17,130
I'm faded.

1138
01:24:18,210 --> 01:24:19,210
Yeah, I think what we'll do.

1139
01:24:19,330 --> 01:24:23,730
I haven't found the phone close, but we'll take around a non-faded piece and get it scanned.

1140
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,980
There's actually a Sherwin Williams color that we need are in close to that called Pancakes.

1141
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:32,480
Pancakes, sir.

1142
01:24:37,340 --> 01:24:38,000
Well,

1143
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:46,120
it shows up pretty nice and it's sort of a reddish, dark, reddish, brown color.

1144
01:24:46,660 --> 01:24:50,200
Although this one appears, passion or dente.

1145
01:24:53,340 --> 01:24:58,060
Okay, I'll go right back to the Criterium, Preservation Reconstruction of the Properters

1146
01:24:58,060 --> 01:24:59,980
Historic Style, Acceptable, Harmony.

1147
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:25,480
The interior design, acceptable, accountability for public exterior materials, acceptable, pathophilic, post-line, escaping, not closed, prevention of the use of incompatible designs, billings, color schemes, exterior materials, acceptable, no change in utilities, recognition of and respect for view quarters and significant vistas, including a reducer of the city and state house, acceptable, all in favor, which you're hand.

1148
01:25:27,370 --> 01:25:34,050
Where and if I would say looking at this night's application, it's similar that I feel like we could be able to get ready to get through it, okay?

1149
01:25:34,170 --> 01:25:37,410
Sure. Yeah, this was quick.

1150
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:40,500
Thank you.

1151
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:41,600
Thank you.

1152
01:25:48,950 --> 01:25:51,210
Thank you.

1153
01:25:54,190 --> 01:25:54,870
Thank you.

1154
01:25:56,610 --> 01:26:00,890
Finally, the next application, 58 state straight, over late part.

1155
01:26:03,420 --> 01:26:04,300
We'll go for placement.

1156
01:26:07,690 --> 01:26:08,170
Hi, all.

1157
01:26:10,410 --> 01:26:13,970
I'm Jesse Jacobs, I'm representing over Lake Park.

1158
01:26:15,010 --> 01:26:16,530
We have a new tannic,

1159
01:26:16,710 --> 01:26:19,290
that's moving into the 58th state street garage,

1160
01:26:20,170 --> 01:26:22,170
which after so many years we're really excited about.

1161
01:26:23,050 --> 01:26:25,770
We have found that the roof that is there,

1162
01:26:25,770 --> 01:26:27,690
currently, which is asphalt shingles,

1163
01:26:28,050 --> 01:26:28,910
needs to be replaced.

1164
01:26:29,730 --> 01:26:32,430
We are proposing to replace it with something

1165
01:26:32,430 --> 01:26:34,570
that is more historically relevant,

1166
01:26:34,890 --> 01:26:35,930
that will last longer,

1167
01:26:36,930 --> 01:26:38,990
and generally, in my opinion, we'll fill out better.

1168
01:26:39,890 --> 01:26:43,990
And, um, I'm here for your permission to do that.

1169
01:26:44,930 --> 01:26:48,370
The pitch flow tool shall bring those as well for our help.

1170
01:26:50,530 --> 01:26:50,790
All right.

1171
01:26:51,090 --> 01:26:52,390
Are you buying it?

1172
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:54,820
A particular color?

1173
01:26:55,660 --> 01:26:56,640
It's charcoal grain.

1174
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,180
I think you guys should have, uh,

1175
01:27:01,660 --> 01:27:05,920
I have left the material and the chip with the application.

1176
01:27:05,940 --> 01:27:07,020
Maybe you don't have it.

1177
01:27:07,100 --> 01:27:07,580
That's okay.

1178
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:09,900
You don't need it.

1179
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,780
It's a little bit lighter than this lap time.

1180
01:27:14,020 --> 01:27:14,780
No, that's mine.

1181
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:18,400
So you have a fixed guard and pad.

1182
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:20,280
We're going to do, right?

1183
01:27:20,420 --> 01:27:22,140
Well, so we'll have the guard along the edge,

1184
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,700
and then four feet above that.

1185
01:27:24,780 --> 01:27:26,180
We'll have the floor delies.

1186
01:27:26,740 --> 01:27:28,760
Just to kind of keep snow up there.

1187
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,360
I'm not sure if they're investigated or something.

1188
01:27:49,580 --> 01:27:54,120
Some of the head style guards that you're showing.

1189
01:27:54,840 --> 01:28:02,420
look at there's some websites that recommend the stagger and spacing on those depending on the

1190
01:28:02,420 --> 01:28:08,780
picture of the roof makes a big difference as far as how it controls the movement of the

1191
01:28:08,780 --> 01:28:09,700
snow.

1192
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:17,240
Okay, I'm certain that the fellow who is installing this has a lot of experience so I think

1193
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,220
that he probably will know what to do.

1194
01:28:19,220 --> 01:28:23,460
OK, good questions, comments?

1195
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,860
OK, evaluation number one, preservation and reconstruction

1196
01:28:30,860 --> 01:28:33,420
of the appropriate historic style, acceptable,

1197
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,420
harmony of exterior design, acceptable,

1198
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:39,240
that ability of professed exterior materials

1199
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,880
or other properties than the district acceptable.

1200
01:28:42,700 --> 01:28:44,680
Now landscaping proposed, prevention

1201
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,680
of the use of incompatible designs, buildings,

1202
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,540
color schemes, or exterior materials, acceptable,

1203
01:28:49,540 --> 01:28:55,100
location and appearance of all utilities, no change in lighting or any other utilities.

1204
01:28:55,980 --> 01:29:00,640
Recognition of and respect for view quarters and significant VISTAs, including every

1205
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,700
views in the city and state and I was acceptable.

1206
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:05,260
All in favor of the application of your hand.

1207
01:29:10,860 --> 01:29:12,700
Thank you all for squeezing me onto the agenda.

1208
01:29:12,820 --> 01:29:14,160
I know it was a full one.

1209
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:16,220
Thank you.

1210
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:17,200
Thank you.

1211
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:17,480
Thank you.

1212
01:29:18,420 --> 01:29:19,960
I'll sign that one.

1213
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,640
You can all set,

1214
01:29:27,810 --> 01:29:32,550
who gave the person a guarantee of your second, all in favor of being

1215
01:29:32,550 --> 01:29:34,670
the amendments and a guarantee of your hands.

1216
01:29:34,830 --> 01:29:35,610
The meeting is a turn.