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Good afternoon, good evening everyone. Thank you for joining us.

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For this regular City Council meeting Tuesday, August 25th. I

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will ask the City clerk to do a roll call

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vote. Bidding Mayor call. Thank you. Council Member Edwards. Here,

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Council Member Landrum. Here, Councilmember Le Fay. Here. Mayor Pro

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Time Eccles. Here. And Mayor Wixon. Here. Council Member Edwards.

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Thank you, Mayor. I will be participating remotely under Usb

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707 Just Cause. Provisions due to medical condition, which limits

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my ability to participate in person. Thank you. With that,

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we will begin with the Pledge of Allegiance. Mrs. Armin

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is my favorite part. Many, begin. I pledge allegiance to

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the flag of the United States of America and to

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the Republic. For which it stands one nation under God.

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In the best visible and justice for all. Just like

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the paper to it. You are. City Attorney, Mr. Stack,

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Close Session Report, please. Good evening, Mayor Council members and

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members of the Public. The City Council did meet this

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afternoon in closed session to discuss three items. The first

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of which was a real property negotiation matter regarding the

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Morro Dunes RV Park at the Address Commonly known as

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1, 700 Barcadero. The second item was a potential litigation

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item. And the third was a Public Employee performance evaluation

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for the City Manager and no reportable action was taken

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under the Brown Act on any item. Thank you, Mr.

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Stack. With that, we will move on to reports and

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announcements from City Council Member Edwards. All I want to

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include this evening is that I wish I could be

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there with all of you tonight, unfortunately. I thought I

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was going to be able to, but I'm just not

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there yet. So be there soon. Thank you. Mayor Pro

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Tim. Thank you, Madam Mayor. Thank you all for being

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here. It's good to see so many people out in

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the audience. Last Saturday, let me get the date for

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you. Yeah, actually it was a week ago Saturday on

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the 15th. I hosted office hours in the form of

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a town hall at City Park. That's the park between

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the fire station and the police station. It was great.

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I got more people there than I expected. So we

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had about 20 people show up. Wonderful discussion. It was

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open topic, round table. And then what was really fun

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and neat is at the end of it, I brought

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some plastic gloves and some bags. And we went around

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the park. And when we left, there wasn't a piece

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of trash nor cigarette, but in the park. So it

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looked beautiful when we left. So it works so well.

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This coming Saturday, I'm going to have office hours at

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the park from 10 to 12. If you're on my

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mailing list, I'll send that out. The next day or

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two as well as a reminder. And if you are

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so inclined, we'll pick up trash and cigarette, but then

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as many now, but I've been to many of the

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meetings that I'm sure my colleagues are going to discuss

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here. Thank you. Council Member Landon. Oh, I get to

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announce all the meetings. Test my memory. Well, I'm so

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glad to be in Morel Bay. I had reason to

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go to San Lewis today. And, you know, Cal Poly

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started this week. And San Luis Coastal. And San Lewis

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found it a good time to start striping their streets,

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especially right around the Cal Poly entrance. And so the

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traffic was awful. So I'm just glad we live here.

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I attended the CFAC meeting, the Planning Commission meeting. The

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Public Works Advisory Board meeting. And also the home builders

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Public Officials Night. I attended the National Estuary Program meeting

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board meeting that I learned at that meeting that some

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interesting things diesel prices have made Albacor fishing for our

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local fishermen almost impossible. Um, let's see.

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The levels of. What is it called? The kelp in

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the Bay are a little bit lower, but they're still

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really high. Um, there's lots of concern about the El

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Nino. Supposa del Nino that's going to be here this

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winter and whether the creeks are ready for that. Um,

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the eel grass. Sorry. It's not the kelp. Um, they're

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not seeing, um, they're seeing not a large scale die

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off of eel grass, but some has disappeared at higher

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levels and they think this has to do with, um,

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the heat. And I think that's it. Good evening,

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everyone. I also attended the Planning Commission meeting, the CFAC

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and the Public Works last week. But I also attended

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a discussion at the pickleball court to Del Mar Park.

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We met with the seniors down there. And there is

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them discussion of adding pickleball courts. And I believe it

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will be agenda dyes on the October 13th City Council

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meeting to look at, uh, some options to add some

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pickleball courts for the pickleball players. Um, I also wanted

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to announce that I was, I'm under the impression. And

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I was told that we are replacing the playground equipment

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at LISIKES or park. And it will be done by

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the end of the year. So those are two announcements

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to improve our City parks. And I wanted to announce

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them to the public here. Welcome. Thank you. Um, as

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was shared, we've attended a lot of the meetings jointly

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sitting separately just so everybody knows our City Attorney keeps

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a good eye on us. Um, public works in which

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I'm the liaison for during Public Works. They had a

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lengthy discussion about the, um, quarterly report. The Wharf Quarterly

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Report, which is on tonight's agenda. So for those of

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you who haven't had an opportunity to see that you

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can follow that on the Public Works Advisory Meeting from

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last week, it was just an update on all the

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activities over the last three months. And, um, comments and

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recommendations from them. Along with some of my fellow council

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members attended the Public Officials night, uh, hosted by the

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home builders association, uh, council member landrough myself had a

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subcommittee meeting with our new Public Works director and staff

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on the Water Reclamation Facility. And, uh, I met with

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Supervisor elect D'Antona. We had an opportunity to just network

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and talk about, uh, interactions for the City and County

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in regards to emergency preparedness. And how best to support

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each other. And the county's rolling that. And also had

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an opportunity to talk to him, uh, briefly about some

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of the library programs that have recently been cut in

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Moral Bay.

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Meeting for mayors and city managers. This is all seven

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cities that participate in that. And, um, just to give

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an update and get a report card from them. So

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far, we're looking good. We haven't heard anything from them.

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That's always good news. And I attended the mayor's meeting.

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We meet once a month of seven cities. And during

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that, the liaison, not the liaison, the staff, um, from

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the Sanlos County homeless services gave us an update from

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the point in time. And just to share the countywide

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report that was done January 26, 2026, they identified 1,

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118 individuals experiencing homelessness in Santas Vespo County. Of that

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number, three percent are on the coast. That's Morbay, La

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Sosa's, Cayucas, and Cambria. So we are very fortunate out

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here that, uh, we've had this port we do. And

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that, um, that our unhouse population is very minimal compared

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to the rest of the county. With that, I will

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move on to the City Managers Report. Thank you, Mayor

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Council. Uh, for the managed report tonight, I attended many

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of the meetings which you've already discussed in - house

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as well as, uh, one important meeting that we discussed,

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that we attended was the, uh, department, the commission of

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fishing wildlife discussion about, um, marine protection areas off the

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coast of not only Morbay, but several other areas around

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the state, three of which directly impact our fishermen. It

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was an all day meeting. Uh, which Harbor staff and

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I were on. And we're able to give our comments

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about how that might affect our, uh, not only our

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community, but also our commercial fishermen and residential fishermen. And

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we are opposed to that. The commission took no action

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on the August meeting. They're planning to come back in

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October and take action on the items they heard. But

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it was a well, uh, it was a good turnout

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of people and the speakers offered good comments. Uh, most

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of which were, uh, against, uh, MPA that was planned

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for his petitioned for officer off of Moro Bay basically

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from the rock up towards Cayucas. And so, uh, wait

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to see on that. Also attended with our staff, uh,

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our monthly meeting with the coastal commission staff had a

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lot of conversations with them about ways in which we

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might ensure that we're doing, um, good by them, uh,

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do, uh, the proper protocols in each of our issues.

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One item we discussed was the potential of volleyball, uh,

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on the beach. Council Luffe is interested in that. And

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so we did discuss with them the ins and outs

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about how that might work. Uh, and so, uh, I

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think that, uh, that's a go. And we actually have

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a conversation with him about that. And good, good feedback

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on how we might go about doing that and allow

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for volleyball courts down on our area. Uh, as well

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as many other items that really affect the city. So,

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um, this month seemed to be reaching out to, uh,

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state commissions and committees and a lot of work with

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not only our elected officials, but also state government advocating

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on behalf of the city and the citizens here. So

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with that, I'll answer any questions that you may have

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on any of the issues. Thank you. Um, I just

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want you to know that I'm in favor of volleyball

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courts on the beach too. I saw you look at

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that. I'm sorry for saying, no name counselor fake. Thank

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you. With that, we will move into no subcommittee reports.

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So, um, I have one proclamation this evening. We will

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be recognizing Hunger Action Month. Whereas each September, the nationwide

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hunger action month campaign Unites millions of people across the

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country to raise awareness and provide nutritious food to neighbors

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facing hunger. And whereas the region's high cost of living

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frequently forces many of our neighbors and San Luis Biscouny

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to make impossible choices between pain for essential needs such

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as rent and buying groceries. And whereas the San Lozo

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Food Bank provides food for 50, 000 neighbors every month,

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a 58 percent increased over the past five years. And

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whereas the San Luis Bispo Food Banks Hunger Relief Network

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reaches more than one in six county residents, including over

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3, 700 neighbors each month along the North Coast. And

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whereas this work is made possible by a collaborative network

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of 70 nonprofit partners who distribute food directly within their

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own neighborhoods, including a sterile bay kindness coalition. Coastland's vineyard

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church, Mor Bay Lyons Foundation and ROC Harbor Fellowship and

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Morro Bay. Whereas the slow food bank's mission is to

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make, where the slow food bank's mission is made possible

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by the profound generosity of our community with more than

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70 percent of the organizations funding coming directly from local

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individuals, businesses and nonprofits. Whereas the expansive reach and daily

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operations of the slow food bank are sustained by the

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dedication of over 1, 300 active volunteers who generously give

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their time to nourish their community. And whereas hunger action

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month serves as a countywide call to action inviting all

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residents to learn, raise awareness and contribute their time and

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resources to help feed as subtle low county together. Now

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therefore be it resolved that the Mor Bay City Council

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does hereby proclaim September, 2026 as hunger action month in

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Moro Bay. And I would like to invite their director

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up. Thank you. Thank you, Sean. Thank you so much

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for having me. My name is Savannah Kolevins. I'm the

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director of community engagement at the Slow Food Bank. Um,

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Mayor Wixom and council members, thank you for shining a

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light on this vital issue, food insecurity is something that

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happens behind closed doors. Um, there's no way to know

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if your colleague, your child's friend, or even the person

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bagging your groceries is experiencing food insecurity. During hunger action

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month, we open those doors to make sure that thousands

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of our neighbors know that they are not alone. And

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that the entire county is working to alleviate hunger and

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build a healthy community. As you shared in this proclamation,

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our community is experiencing food insecurity at a level we

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have not seen in our 36 year history. Um, for

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some context prior to this year, the most people that

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we had ever served in a single month was 47,

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000 during the COVID - 19 pandemic. We are now

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regularly serving 50, 000 or more each month. We are

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honored to provide compassionate nutritious, hunger relief to the tens

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of thousands of slow county neighbors. Through our direct Hunger

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relief efforts and a network of more than 70 independent

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nonprofits whose kitchens and pantries we stock. While hunger is

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a challenge that is very much part of our local

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community in Moro Bay and across So County, the solution

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is local. In the compassionate hearts of our agency partners,

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the hard work of hundreds of volunteers, the support of

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thousands of donors, large and small. We are so grateful

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to be this community's food bank. Thank you again for

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your kindness for helping us share our story and supporting

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our mission on hunger action month and throughout the year.

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If you are ever interested in learning more, invite you

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or anyone in the community to come and take a

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tour at our warehouse volunteer and see firsthand, uh, the

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difference in nutritious meal can make. Thank you so much.

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Thank you. We appreciate your advocacy and hard work. What

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that will move into Public comment is for items not

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on the agenda. I have some speaker slips to start

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out with. Sugar cliff followed by Linda Winters followed by

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Linda Merrill. Thank you.

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Hi, my name is Sugar Cliff and I'm the owner

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of grandma's Mercantile on Maine on Main Street. I wanted

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to talk about our farmer's market. Recently there has been

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a rumor going around that our farmers market is going

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to be moved to the city park. And so I

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was inundated with not only vendors, but other business people.

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And they told me go find out if it's true.

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Do we need to get a coalition together? Do we

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need to argue? Do we need to do what? So

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I'm here to tell you that the farmers market where

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it's at is wonderful. It has kept my business and

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other business going. That's one of the biggest things that

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we count on to keep our downtown businesses. So, um,

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basically I just instead of walking around and asking other

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people and rumors, I thought I'd come to the horse's

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mouth and find out if this is something that is

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truly being considered or if this is just something that

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we can rest on. So that's really all I had

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to say. I just wanted to let you guys know

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how much the farmer's market means to not just that

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one, the two blocks that covers, even just the whole

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downtown area. You know, that's where we get a majority

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of our business. And right now the way things are,

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I know my business open last year. So, um, thank

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you for being letting me know if that's real or

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not so I can tell all my friends on the

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street whether or not we need to get petitions together.

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Because I don't want to tune into that if I

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don't have to. All right. Thank you very much.

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There was an old studio building out in front of

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the community center. If anybody remembers this studio room, was

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studio building. It was like falling down. And so we

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just met there for our art group. I mean, it

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was covered with paint and all of that. So we

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met there and it had been used like for 10

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years before that. And so I'm hoping what happened was

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when the new building was built, the seniors were promised

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the senior area because they eliminated. They used to have

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a trailer that they met in. So they eliminated that

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trailer. So they were promised the senior center area. We

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were promised a studio room in the new building. So

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it's been a long time and everybody that I know

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that would have known this story isn't around anymore. So

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if there's anybody else in the audience that knows this

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and can support me, please let me know. And thank

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you all for everything you do.

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Good evening. I would like to ask if the City

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of Morro Bay would consider lowering the flag in honor

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of Dolly Barton. Thank you.

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Hello, Mayor Wixim and Council. I'm Sidney Ramos of 40

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plus year Moro Bay residents. Since the last council meeting,

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I've continued to look into Motorola's automated license plate readers.

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The company itself and they're associated database learn, which is

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an acronym for law enforcement archival reporting network. I found

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dramatic stories of misread license plates leading to innocent people

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being held at gunpoint arrested and handcuffed before they were

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able to straighten anything out. While I'd like to believe

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that these positive outcomes, oh wait. Okay, I also looked

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for positive outcomes to balance any bias that I may

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have. And while I'd like to believe the positive outcomes

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outweigh the instances of abuse or error, I just don't

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believe that they do. My concern is much less about

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this tool being in law enforcement hands, but it is

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also in the hands of Motorola. Specifically Motorola gives direct

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databates access to the federal government and other third parties.

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And what this means is that they are enabled to

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directly search databases without needing local intermediaries or warrants. And

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some studies are already facing backlash and repercussions from illegal

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data sharing. In addition, Motorola acknowledges flaws, which allow unauthorized

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parties to view feeds in real time, along with vulnerabilities

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to hacker tampering. There's currently a class action suit against

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Motorola for violating state privacy laws. The gist of the

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suit is that the methods used for collecting and storing

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data need laws to be put in a safeguard. New

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Hampshire is starting to enact laws requiring purging within specific

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timeframes. And this is probably more of a state issue.

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Finally, Motorola is participating in unmonitored mass tracking. The recordings

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of our movements and patterns and location and histories can

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be used to predict our future whereabouts. And while I

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thought of that, this, it reminded me of being on

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Instagram and the algorithm finding just that cute thing for

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me to order. But in this case, you and I

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are the product. So I'm urging the City of Morro

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Bay to take a stand against a nationwide video surveillance

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system, which is contrary to the guarantees of our Constitution.

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So I would ask the council to please put it

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on an agenda so our concern citizens. Can talk about

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it. Thank you. I have no more speaker slips, Public

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Common is open for items not on the agenda.

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Good evening, Council. On Lee. I just wanted to mention

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and experience I had a week ago Sunday. I was

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at the ROC bathroom. And it was locked, you know.

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So they had three port - a - potties or

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more. And then there was a sign that said you

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could use those or you could walk a half a

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mile down the road to the new ones. And my

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mind did a quick assessment thinking, because it's after sunset,

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maybe those are locked. I don't know. I didn't know,

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I didn't care. Well, anyway, so fortunately I had some

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tissue paper with me because they were empty. And when

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I got out, there were some maintenance workers there. And

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I asked them if they wouldn't mind putting some toilet

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paper in the bathrooms. And I just wanted to say

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thank you to them just because, you know, they were

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there. They actually had, I guess it was their job.

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I don't know, to carry toilet paper around. But there

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were people gathering. So, you know, but are those bathrooms

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down the road? That's one of the other questions. It's

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like, is there a time when it closed them? You

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know? But I just want to say, he didn't know

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if I was a tourist. Or if I was a

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citizen and that I would thank them. So whatever, whoever

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that person was, um, on a Sunday night, he was

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needed because there were others gathering. Thank you. Anyone else

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for Public comment for items not on the agenda. Betty

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Winholtz, I'd like to read something to you as chairman

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of the Recreation and Parks Commission. It's email that came

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from Cambria in light of one of our programs. It

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was actually a very long letter that came to Mr.

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Carmichael. But I did grab the last paragraph because I

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thought it was, um, a pertinent that we, um, like

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just did, uh, honor our workers. So it says you

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have been tremendous partners for the Cambria Youth Athletic Association

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and the Cambria Community at Lage. As such, a small

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community, we rely on partnerships with our friends and neighbors.

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So our kids can participate in youth sports. And this

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one has been tremendous. Our kids never had the opportunity

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to play flag football locally until we started playing with

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the league three years ago. All the kids ages K

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through six have had such a great experience. And we

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hope to add seventh and eighth grade next year. It

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has been such a privilege to watch these kids grow

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and learn to play the game together over these past

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three years. Cheers to the Moro Bay Reck League team

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that helped make it possible. We took, we look forward

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to playing with you again next year and in the

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years ahead from Lex. And this was to our, um,

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Ken who works in the parks and rec department and

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coordinates all that. So I thought it was just really,

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uh, glowing report and that rather than just keep that

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among the Parks and Rec and the, and the staff,

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I thought the whole community should know that we're doing

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such a fine job. Anyone else for Public comment

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for items not on the agenda. I. Didn't. Stay. That's

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fine. Please come forward then. If you can't stay.

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My name is Marley Nowens and I'm an old timer

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in Morel Bay. I can remember sitting here and speaking

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here when Lila Kaiser was sitting up there on that

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bench. And she lila Kaiser was a person I'm talking

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about in that day because she has to do with

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moral elementary. A whole bunch to do with Moral Elementary.

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Lila Kaiser was of all things she loved parks recreation

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and kids. And she wanted them a place to play

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and a place to be. There is only one place

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in Morel Bay for kids to play on a flat

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ground and play soccer. Most of the parks are sloped.

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More obey is sloped. But kids can play soccer at

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Morrow Elementary. And it's very important. And I remember when

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Lila was, was working with Lila to put in the

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playground at Harbor Street Park. And she would be very

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much impressed if you put in a playground at Moro

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Mountain. And there's room. And it's a place where kids

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can hit a baseball. Or a softball. And let it

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roll and say, wow, did you see how far that

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role? And I remember days like that, I can remember

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them because we, my husband and I coached little league.

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And there were four teams in the minor league in

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that day. And there were at least four teams in

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the major league. And some of those kids went on

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to college scholarships. And so on. Because they could play

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at Morrow Elementary. And you know that for a fact.

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So in Lila's memory, we need to make sure that

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the kids have a safe place to play with a

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ball roll into the street. And where they can kick

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a soccer ball and it won't just keep rolling because

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to the bay, because it's downhill, it's flat. It's set

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up for that. Thank you. Thank you, Marlene. Anyone else

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for Public Combat for Items not on the agenda. Hi,

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I'm Margaret Carmen. And thank you Mayor Wixom for mentioning

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the library. And so I'm going to continue the theme

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of talking about children because I want whoever's listening and

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whoever's in here to realize what just happened that the,

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uh, library director decided to, uh, cut our children's librarian.

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And we only get her for one day one, what

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do you call it? The reading where they do the

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help me out. Storytelling, storytelling, yes. And she's being sent

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to San Luis Obispo. It's not where she wants to

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be. And we, I mean, I could just cry because

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I worked in the library in elementary school. It was

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my school, my campus job in college. And any kids

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who want to be in the library and not on

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their phone doing nothing. We need to support that. And

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I don't know who we write letters to or what

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we do. And I just really appreciate that you mentioned

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it at that meeting where you were. But we need

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to get that director on our side to say, we

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need the full - time children's librarian. And we're down

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to only four days a week of the library because

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it's closed on Friday mornings. And it's closed on Saturday

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afternoons now when a lot of families would come in

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after they've done their chords in the morning. And they

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come to the library. So we need help keeping our

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library open for adults and children. Thank you very much.

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Anyone else for Public Comit for Items Nut on the

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Agenda. Rare, are there any raised hands in the queue.

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Yes, there is one raised hand. Layla Fabians, go ahead.

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Yes, I wanted to say that I support the City

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purchasing the property of Moral Elementary. I think it's very

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important for the community as a historic site for City

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offices and especially for the school. And the sports field,

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as was mentioned before. Thank you. Thank you. Any more

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raised hands, Ray. There are no more raised hands in

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the queue. Thank you. With that, I have a close

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Public comment and bring it back. Um, I would just

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share with the community as a whole Board of Supervisors

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reach out to them in regards to the library programs

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or anything regarding the library. Supervisor Gibson is District 2

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supervisor. And I would encourage you to, um, write or

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call. You can watch their meeting, I believe two weeks

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ago. They addressed library funding. And, uh, I would just

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encourage you to use that avenue. Bathroom sun up to

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sun up to sundown. Is that the bathroom howers? Sounds

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good. Thank you. I believe it's, uh, you know. Our

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three week into his job's Public Work Director, Dave Laccaro,

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may have an update on it. Uh, yes, Mayor, members

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of the Council, David Lacaro Public Works Director. So yeah,

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I leaned over a little bit to our utilities Division

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Manager got a little bit of a, uh, background on

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this. So the locked restroom was due to, uh, a

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couple of weekends ago. We had, so we're backup. So

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we needed to make sure that that was locked for

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the safety of the Public, uh, especially with exposure and

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so forth. We're also in the meantime banking those fixes

476
00:38:58,569 --> 00:39:01,508
and doing the cleanup necessary to get that restroom back

477
00:39:01,548 --> 00:39:04,628
in order. I believe it's open now. Uh, so there

478
00:39:04,668 --> 00:39:08,548
is accessibility. Um, and then for future, uh, I will

479
00:39:08,548 --> 00:39:11,828
be working with D'Ames to make sure that we can,

480
00:39:11,828 --> 00:39:16,102
uh, make sure that this doesn't happen again. It's a

481
00:39:16,102 --> 00:39:22,508
very difficult bathroom. Thank you. Mayor, I just add that,

482
00:39:22,508 --> 00:39:24,908
uh, the President Trump, I believe this afternoon ordered flags

483
00:39:24,929 --> 00:39:27,468
at half staff for one week, American flags at half

484
00:39:27,508 --> 00:39:29,868
stat for one week on behalf of the dolly pardon's

485
00:39:29,868 --> 00:39:33,308
death. So to answer that. Yes. For those who didn't

486
00:39:33,348 --> 00:39:37,440
know. Thank you. With that, we will move on to

487
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,787
the consent agenda. Um, Public Common is open. On items

488
00:39:42,827 --> 00:39:51,312
on the consent agenda. Betty

489
00:39:51,333 --> 00:39:56,352
Windholtz, just want to briefly ask a couple of questions.

490
00:39:56,352 --> 00:40:01,872
One's on 6E clarifying our hydro geological investigations. Are those

491
00:40:01,893 --> 00:40:04,832
ongoing or is it a different kind of investigation that's

492
00:40:04,853 --> 00:40:07,632
happening now? It was in the report that went to

493
00:40:07,733 --> 00:40:10,832
PWAP last week and is in your report this week.

494
00:40:10,832 --> 00:40:16,672
Um, also, um, in particular, uh, on items 6B and

495
00:40:16,693 --> 00:40:22,672
6F, it affects board communication, advisory boards, commissions to the

496
00:40:22,773 --> 00:40:26,032
council. And at what point will you all be clarifying

497
00:40:26,072 --> 00:40:28,912
that so we know that what we talk about comes

498
00:40:28,952 --> 00:40:34,332
to you in an official way? And then finally, um,

499
00:40:34,332 --> 00:40:38,192
I was hoping that on 6D, um, where it talks

500
00:40:38,192 --> 00:40:42,672
about your goals, um, that you would ask that the

501
00:40:43,013 --> 00:40:47,392
Reserve discussion come back sooner than later. Um, that we

502
00:40:47,413 --> 00:40:52,032
can make that part of the discussion regarding financing or

503
00:40:52,032 --> 00:40:57,995
not financing of the elementary school. Anyone else for comment

504
00:40:58,096 --> 00:41:02,962
on items on the consent agenda. Where are there any

505
00:41:03,002 --> 00:41:05,042
raised hands in the queue? There are no raised hands

506
00:41:05,042 --> 00:41:06,882
in the queue. Thank you. With that, I will close

507
00:41:06,903 --> 00:41:09,042
public comment on the consent agenda and bring it back

508
00:41:09,082 --> 00:41:14,282
to council. Are there to my left. Anything to pull?

509
00:41:15,423 --> 00:41:21,138
Council Member Edwards. I'm good Mayor. Thank you. Thank you.

510
00:41:21,769 --> 00:41:28,704
Council Member Landrum. Um, I think we have to pull

511
00:41:29,205 --> 00:41:36,848
six C. And. I guess six, maybe there could be

512
00:41:36,848 --> 00:41:39,648
more clarity for six B and six. Is it six

513
00:41:39,688 --> 00:41:44,655
at F. Sorry. I need to know what you're asking.

514
00:41:45,796 --> 00:41:48,975
Six B and six F. Six C and six F.

515
00:41:48,975 --> 00:41:55,209
Six B C and F. Six B C and F.

516
00:41:55,209 --> 00:41:59,394
Yes. Okay. Council Member Lafay anything? I'm done. Thank you.

517
00:41:59,735 --> 00:42:02,034
I'll ask for a motion to approve the other items

518
00:42:02,074 --> 00:42:06,994
on the consent. And a second. You have a motion

519
00:42:07,095 --> 00:42:11,074
and a second. Roll call vote, please. Council Member Eccles.

520
00:42:11,074 --> 00:42:16,728
Yes. Council Member Le Fay. Yes. Council Member Edwards. Yes.

521
00:42:16,749 --> 00:42:20,328
Council Member Landry. Yes. And Mayor Wixon. Yes. Motion carries

522
00:42:20,429 --> 00:42:26,168
five. Oh. Thank you. Council Member Landrum 6B. 6B. I

523
00:42:26,208 --> 00:42:28,488
just wonder if we could get a little, a little

524
00:42:28,488 --> 00:42:34,256
more. Just an update, or not an update. Just a

525
00:42:34,256 --> 00:42:41,138
quick. My question about that was that is, they're doing,

526
00:42:41,138 --> 00:42:44,498
the cities doing an archaeological review in that area. Who

527
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:49,151
am I talking to. Public Works Director? Yeah, where is

528
00:42:49,191 --> 00:42:51,611
he? He's over there. Oh, I can't see him, but

529
00:42:52,212 --> 00:42:57,631
it's awkward. Um, so I'm not, I'm unclear since there

530
00:42:57,671 --> 00:43:02,351
was an archaeological investigation that was negative. Does that mean

531
00:43:02,351 --> 00:43:05,951
that no further archaeological, um, work needs to be done.

532
00:43:07,176 --> 00:43:12,914
In that like development phase or any future. Thank you.

533
00:43:12,914 --> 00:43:15,154
I believe we're going to have our utilities manager.

534
00:43:21,851 --> 00:43:25,670
Evening's Division Manager. Um, I believe you're talking about further

535
00:43:26,171 --> 00:43:29,030
wells that we did archaeological studies for that. And they

536
00:43:29,030 --> 00:43:31,670
came back. Yes, that there was no, um, no findings

537
00:43:31,691 --> 00:43:34,230
or anything there for those locations. Okay. So that's all

538
00:43:34,251 --> 00:43:37,670
clear in that whole area. And then, um, since we're

539
00:43:37,851 --> 00:43:40,790
nearing the end of a new quarter, will there be

540
00:43:40,811 --> 00:43:45,990
much change or an increase in costs or anything? For

541
00:43:46,091 --> 00:43:50,156
the whole program or for. Yeah. That we're still working

542
00:43:50,196 --> 00:43:53,036
on other parts of the program that, um, part of

543
00:43:53,036 --> 00:43:57,196
it is a ASR permit that we discussed before that

544
00:43:57,196 --> 00:43:59,036
we'll have to, um, do some more work on that

545
00:43:59,057 --> 00:44:03,276
one as well. But I think you're asking if there's

546
00:44:03,276 --> 00:44:05,996
going to be changes with it? Yeah. I mean, because

547
00:44:05,996 --> 00:44:08,156
we're already approaching the end of a new quarter, right?

548
00:44:08,808 --> 00:44:12,707
Yeah. Yeah. Is it going to be much different than

549
00:44:13,048 --> 00:44:15,507
this one? I'm just wondering if it's looking to be

550
00:44:16,168 --> 00:44:18,467
much different than this one. There may be some changes

551
00:44:19,128 --> 00:44:22,387
due to the ASR permit because the regional board asked

552
00:44:22,387 --> 00:44:25,107
for more requirements on this ASR permit than they did

553
00:44:25,107 --> 00:44:28,321
the previous ASR permit. So we're still working through it

554
00:44:28,321 --> 00:44:35,761
all though. Okay. Thank you. Demaris quick question. Um, on

555
00:44:35,782 --> 00:44:39,101
the mitigation effort that we're working with with the, um,

556
00:44:40,182 --> 00:44:44,321
Chorro Valley, uh, it's stated in here that, uh, we're

557
00:44:44,321 --> 00:44:48,401
requested to give between 200, 000 and 250, 000. Would

558
00:44:48,401 --> 00:44:51,281
that be the total amount that we will be obligated

559
00:44:51,702 --> 00:44:57,681
for the mitigation for the, um, farmland in that area?

560
00:44:58,182 --> 00:45:01,841
That is the amount that the coastal commission has put

561
00:45:01,881 --> 00:45:04,321
on the value of the land, um, but we're still

562
00:45:04,321 --> 00:45:06,241
working through a lot of details on where we're going

563
00:45:06,241 --> 00:45:09,281
to land with that whole project. So. Oh, that could

564
00:45:09,321 --> 00:45:13,761
be more money that's involved in that. Or other negotiations

565
00:45:13,782 --> 00:45:22,111
with it. Maybe property and other things. Thank you. Um,

566
00:45:22,132 --> 00:45:23,871
why don't we move on and do the other two?

567
00:45:23,871 --> 00:45:26,411
I'm going to do one motion then. Okay. Then, um,

568
00:45:26,452 --> 00:45:32,111
on six C. That one, it seems like it's not

569
00:45:32,132 --> 00:45:36,351
complete. Like there is no, there has to be a

570
00:45:36,351 --> 00:45:38,831
voting delegate. And I don't think one has been, it

571
00:45:38,871 --> 00:45:41,791
doesn't appear to me in this item that that has

572
00:45:41,831 --> 00:45:46,031
been determined. And I think we should determine that. City

573
00:45:46,071 --> 00:45:50,181
manager. Thank you, council. This is regard to the, uh,

574
00:45:50,542 --> 00:45:52,361
business meaning of the California League of Cities, which is

575
00:45:52,401 --> 00:45:55,321
coming up where I believe Councillor Landron, the mayor Artinian,

576
00:45:55,321 --> 00:45:58,201
as well as myself. And so, uh, the request from

577
00:45:58,201 --> 00:46:02,261
the League of Cities, we are voting body of, uh,

578
00:46:02,622 --> 00:46:05,241
Voting member of that body. And so, uh, they, they

579
00:46:05,902 --> 00:46:10,121
need an official motion by the, uh, council to select

580
00:46:10,142 --> 00:46:12,761
the voting delegate and up to two alternates for that

581
00:46:13,022 --> 00:46:17,481
conference. And so that's the council's purview tonight to a

582
00:46:17,481 --> 00:46:19,481
point one of the three of us as the Voting

583
00:46:19,502 --> 00:46:24,601
Delegate and two, as alternates. Do they need a name

584
00:46:24,622 --> 00:46:27,401
for who the person is or just that two of

585
00:46:27,401 --> 00:46:30,041
us are alternates and one's a voting member. My understanding

586
00:46:30,081 --> 00:46:33,099
is they need the name of the Voting Delegate. So,

587
00:46:33,139 --> 00:46:35,698
so that's why I thought we should pull it. There's

588
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,498
only one vote. Yes. Council Member Lafayette. Yes. I'd like

589
00:46:38,498 --> 00:46:42,018
to make a motion to appoint Mayor Wixtrum as our

590
00:46:42,058 --> 00:46:46,098
voting delegate for the California League of Cities meeting in

591
00:46:46,138 --> 00:46:50,978
Anaheim and the two alternatives would be council member Landrum

592
00:46:51,319 --> 00:46:59,470
and City Manager. John Craig. I'll second that. That's fine.

593
00:47:00,051 --> 00:47:04,900
I have a motion and a second. Any discussion. Thank

594
00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:08,500
you. I'll go back to the other one. Sorry, Dana.

595
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:09,780
Roll call vote, please. I was trying to do all

596
00:47:09,801 --> 00:47:13,479
three of ones. Council Member Le Fay. Yes. Council Member

597
00:47:13,580 --> 00:47:18,519
Landry. Yes. Council Member Edwards. Yes. Council Member Eccles. Yes.

598
00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:25,593
And Mayor Wixom. Yes. Motion carries five. Six F. Yeah.

599
00:47:25,593 --> 00:47:29,503
Um, six F. I guess I would ask. Is this

600
00:47:29,503 --> 00:47:35,343
Mr. Heimel? I'm asking. Um, I guess I would ask

601
00:47:35,684 --> 00:47:39,503
the same kind of question as far as, um, will

602
00:47:39,543 --> 00:47:43,823
there be, does this look like the future more changes

603
00:47:43,844 --> 00:47:52,354
to this? More additions. Oh, okay. Trevors. Mr. Evers. There

604
00:47:52,394 --> 00:47:59,963
you go. Evening Matty versus Utilities Project Manager. The question

605
00:48:00,003 --> 00:48:04,043
that was asked earlier, are there additional archaeological investigations required

606
00:48:04,144 --> 00:48:08,363
for the extraction well? No, that was completed with the,

607
00:48:08,363 --> 00:48:13,803
um, already, um, sonic coring. The amendment is for additional

608
00:48:13,984 --> 00:48:19,444
hydrogeological, um, services. So that includes finalizing the design of

609
00:48:19,444 --> 00:48:23,284
the well, not further investigations. And to answer the question

610
00:48:23,865 --> 00:48:29,284
about whether future costs are expected to change, we foresee

611
00:48:30,265 --> 00:48:32,949
currently. Okay. Thank you.

612
00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:46,367
Any other questions, Council Member Edwards? No, I'm good. Thank

613
00:48:46,407 --> 00:48:49,327
you, Mayor. Thank you. So Councillor. Okay. I move that

614
00:48:49,367 --> 00:48:53,558
we approve item 6B and 6F. I'll second that. Thank

615
00:48:53,558 --> 00:48:55,638
you. I have a motion and a second. Roll call

616
00:48:55,678 --> 00:49:00,273
vote, please. Council Member Landry. Yes. Council Member Le Fay.

617
00:49:00,374 --> 00:49:04,193
Yes. Council Member Edwards. Yes. Council Member at Eccles. Yes.

618
00:49:04,374 --> 00:49:07,933
And Mayor Wixon. Yes. Mosh carries 5 - 0. Thank

619
00:49:07,933 --> 00:49:12,915
you. With that, we will move on to our business

620
00:49:13,176 --> 00:49:17,235
item of the evening. 8A, Acceptance of Moreau Elementary Site

621
00:49:17,656 --> 00:49:20,995
due diligence report, determination regarding the City's intent to purchase

622
00:49:21,096 --> 00:49:24,435
a property and direction to staff regarding close of escrow.

623
00:49:25,805 --> 00:49:28,184
And with that, I will turn it over to Mr.

624
00:49:28,205 --> 00:49:32,785
Craig. Thank you, Mayor, before say that Council of Faith

625
00:49:32,785 --> 00:49:33,905
and mayor may want to have word with you in

626
00:49:33,905 --> 00:49:36,465
the parking lot after the meeting, it sounds like. It's

627
00:49:36,465 --> 00:49:39,185
voting delegate and your motion to appoint her as voting

628
00:49:39,286 --> 00:49:41,385
delegate. I'm just, I'm not sure. I just want to

629
00:49:41,385 --> 00:49:43,005
make sure you take care of yourself on the way

630
00:49:43,005 --> 00:49:45,425
home. Yeah, I know. I'm parking next door in the

631
00:49:48,006 --> 00:49:51,105
council. Tonight, uh, the item in front of us is

632
00:49:51,686 --> 00:49:55,665
discussion of the due diligence report and the more elementary

633
00:49:55,766 --> 00:49:59,905
purchase that is. The council was currently agreed to with

634
00:49:59,926 --> 00:50:03,425
the unified school district. So tonight's discussion concerns, uh, the

635
00:50:03,465 --> 00:50:06,625
city's potential acquisition of the Moro Elementary School site at

636
00:50:06,646 --> 00:50:11,105
1130 in 1330 Napa Avenue from the St. Louis Coastal

637
00:50:11,126 --> 00:50:13,905
Unified School District. On March 10th of this year, the

638
00:50:14,006 --> 00:50:16,705
City Council approved a purchase and sale agreement established in

639
00:50:16,806 --> 00:50:20,785
a 5. 3 million dollar purchase price. And initiating a

640
00:50:20,825 --> 00:50:24,945
due diligence period to investigate the properties physical, environmental title,

641
00:50:24,966 --> 00:50:29,585
historic and regulatory condition. Over the following months, city staff

642
00:50:29,766 --> 00:50:33,025
and the coordinated consultant team, uh, led by Michael Godrin

643
00:50:33,286 --> 00:50:37,505
at the EMBC Planning Strategies conductedtion and engage the community

644
00:50:37,545 --> 00:50:40,865
through two Public meetings, uh, in written comments. The due

645
00:50:40,865 --> 00:50:45,825
diligence period closes on October on August 31st. And under

646
00:50:45,865 --> 00:50:48,205
the agreement, the council has with the school district, the

647
00:50:48,205 --> 00:50:51,345
council must now determine in its sole discretion whether the

648
00:50:51,385 --> 00:50:54,945
property is suitable for the city's intended purposes and whether

649
00:50:54,985 --> 00:51:00,385
to proceed towards closing on October 31st. Tonight's action is

650
00:51:00,425 --> 00:51:04,545
to help council determine that suitability determination inform the due

651
00:51:04,585 --> 00:51:09,025
diligence report informed by the due diligence report before you.

652
00:51:09,025 --> 00:51:10,865
And the Public and Public receives night as well as

653
00:51:10,966 --> 00:51:13,905
the recommendation of the City manager. Tonight's discussion was not

654
00:51:13,926 --> 00:51:15,885
built to be a referendum on the merits of the

655
00:51:15,926 --> 00:51:18,545
purchase. Uh, the council has already agreed to the purchase

656
00:51:18,545 --> 00:51:20,625
of the property. This is also not a decision of

657
00:51:20,665 --> 00:51:23,505
what the council would like to do with the property,

658
00:51:23,505 --> 00:51:25,745
how much housing will or not be approved on the

659
00:51:25,785 --> 00:51:29,505
site or any other questions. Really, the discussion tonight is

660
00:51:29,545 --> 00:51:32,665
solely for the council to receive the information. Listen to

661
00:51:32,665 --> 00:51:35,265
Public comment and decide whether they find the property suitable

662
00:51:35,446 --> 00:51:38,145
for the city's needs. Uh, as part of that, obviously

663
00:51:38,486 --> 00:51:41,025
there are a lot of questions and dynamics around that.

664
00:51:41,025 --> 00:51:43,105
And I think that what our discussion will play out

665
00:51:43,105 --> 00:51:46,145
with tonight. So part of the suitability question is whether

666
00:51:46,166 --> 00:51:49,745
or not cost associated with using the site for city

667
00:51:49,745 --> 00:51:52,305
purposes, including as a new City Hall or some other

668
00:51:52,345 --> 00:51:55,265
purpose coupled with any potential revenues that might be created

669
00:51:55,305 --> 00:51:58,865
from the site for housing parcels or any other purpose.

670
00:51:58,865 --> 00:52:01,928
Makes the property suitable for the city. With that, we

671
00:52:02,029 --> 00:52:05,688
have a short slideshow to present on the findings on

672
00:52:05,728 --> 00:52:08,328
behalf of our due diligence team. And after that, we'll

673
00:52:08,328 --> 00:52:11,768
be happy to discuss any questions. Councillors have regarding that.

674
00:52:11,768 --> 00:52:14,328
So I'll turn it over to Michael Codrin who head

675
00:52:14,328 --> 00:52:18,728
up, held up, are headed up our staff due diligence

676
00:52:18,768 --> 00:52:21,568
team to go through a short presentation. All right. Well,

677
00:52:21,568 --> 00:52:24,448
thank you City Manager Craig. Good evening. Madam Mayor, members

678
00:52:24,448 --> 00:52:27,088
of the City Council. My name is Michael Codran. I've

679
00:52:27,088 --> 00:52:28,928
been hired by the city to serve as the due

680
00:52:28,949 --> 00:52:32,448
diligence manager for this project. Uh, tonight is an important

681
00:52:32,629 --> 00:52:35,408
milestone in the due diligence process. And I'm happy to

682
00:52:35,448 --> 00:52:38,928
present to you the final due diligence report for your

683
00:52:39,189 --> 00:52:45,294
consideration. Let me start by providing an overview of the

684
00:52:45,555 --> 00:52:50,855
due diligence effort. The PSA or purchase and sale agreement

685
00:52:50,895 --> 00:52:53,655
with the school district has provided the city with an

686
00:52:53,676 --> 00:52:56,455
extended period for due diligence to look carefully at the

687
00:52:56,476 --> 00:53:00,775
property. And not just its condition, but its suitability for

688
00:53:00,796 --> 00:53:07,984
future uses. In order for the, to properly frame and

689
00:53:08,024 --> 00:53:11,264
answer the question of suitability. We began the process of

690
00:53:11,365 --> 00:53:16,224
engaging with the public and conducting site investigations. The City

691
00:53:16,325 --> 00:53:19,664
hired an array of consultants who contributed really important information

692
00:53:20,085 --> 00:53:22,864
about the condition of the property as well as its

693
00:53:22,904 --> 00:53:27,166
historic status. Ultimately, this process has led to a detailed

694
00:53:27,347 --> 00:53:29,886
and lengthy report that was published and made available to

695
00:53:29,886 --> 00:53:33,326
the Public on August 12th. I'm going to summarize the

696
00:53:33,347 --> 00:53:35,966
report in this presentation, but want to be clear that

697
00:53:36,006 --> 00:53:40,126
the intent is to support cancel discussion. The report itself

698
00:53:40,387 --> 00:53:43,806
doesn't include any recommendations. My hope is that the council

699
00:53:43,846 --> 00:53:45,966
will find the information helpful and that the report will

700
00:53:45,987 --> 00:53:49,006
continue to be useful reference document well into the future.

701
00:53:51,882 --> 00:53:54,821
So the entire report is centered on the question of

702
00:53:54,842 --> 00:53:57,861
whether or not the property is suitable for the city's

703
00:53:57,962 --> 00:54:01,301
use, which is the City Council's call to make. If

704
00:54:01,322 --> 00:54:04,741
the council decides that the site is inacceptable condition and

705
00:54:04,741 --> 00:54:08,421
suitable for future city use, then the acquisition process can

706
00:54:08,442 --> 00:54:11,301
proceed. However, if the council does not want to move

707
00:54:11,482 --> 00:54:14,501
forward, tonight is the night to say so, because after

708
00:54:14,842 --> 00:54:18,341
August 31st, the city won't be able to recover its

709
00:54:18,381 --> 00:54:22,261
due diligence to positive 500, 000 dollars except under very

710
00:54:22,282 --> 00:54:29,609
limited circumstances. The report is organized around six dimensions of

711
00:54:30,030 --> 00:54:35,609
suitability and present information relative to each of these topics.

712
00:54:35,609 --> 00:54:39,129
This is how the report defines suitability based on the

713
00:54:39,230 --> 00:54:46,809
site's physical, environmental, title and boundary. Historic and regulatory and

714
00:54:46,849 --> 00:54:54,253
cost and value characteristics. And the report uses a working

715
00:54:54,434 --> 00:54:58,013
scenario as one lens through which we can assess its

716
00:54:58,053 --> 00:55:02,733
suitability. It considers rehabilitation of the schoolhouse building for a

717
00:55:02,773 --> 00:55:06,253
future City Hall. It looks at housing across multiple properties

718
00:55:06,754 --> 00:55:09,213
and considers what the process would look like if the

719
00:55:09,314 --> 00:55:12,173
council wants to pursue a public - private partnership to

720
00:55:12,274 --> 00:55:15,933
accomplish its vision. It is important to know, however, that

721
00:55:16,034 --> 00:55:19,693
the scenario used in this report to evaluate suitability is

722
00:55:19,714 --> 00:55:23,693
not a council commitment to any particular use. Ultimately, the

723
00:55:23,954 --> 00:55:26,253
council may choose to do something completely different with the

724
00:55:26,293 --> 00:55:33,817
property. One important point to make about the working scenario

725
00:55:33,998 --> 00:55:37,177
is that it was shaped by Public Input. Community meetings

726
00:55:37,198 --> 00:55:40,617
were held on April 22nd in June 24th. The purpose

727
00:55:40,638 --> 00:55:42,937
of the first meeting was to share the plan for

728
00:55:43,118 --> 00:55:46,217
evaluating the building and to hear feedback from the community

729
00:55:46,318 --> 00:55:50,297
on those concepts that were shared. During the second meeting,

730
00:55:50,297 --> 00:55:52,777
we were able to provide some of the results from

731
00:55:52,798 --> 00:55:56,697
the consultant studies that had been concluded at that point.

732
00:55:56,697 --> 00:55:59,817
And overall, the community expressed broad support for the acquisition

733
00:55:59,838 --> 00:56:04,457
itself. There was consistent feedback about the value of preserving

734
00:56:04,478 --> 00:56:08,217
the historic buildings. There is community support for housing on

735
00:56:08,318 --> 00:56:10,777
this site and potentially off - site on the current

736
00:56:10,798 --> 00:56:14,057
City Hall campus. And there is definite interest in preserving

737
00:56:14,318 --> 00:56:18,137
open space for sports fields. These themes helped inform the

738
00:56:18,398 --> 00:56:21,817
working scenario evaluated in this report and confirm that we

739
00:56:21,857 --> 00:56:28,349
were on the right path with our study. So let's

740
00:56:28,389 --> 00:56:32,029
jump into the question of physical suitability. Much of this

741
00:56:32,130 --> 00:56:36,589
information was reported during the Second Community meeting. Consultant reports

742
00:56:36,850 --> 00:56:40,029
allow us to conclude that the buildings are fundamentally sound

743
00:56:40,050 --> 00:56:44,509
for their age. Spectre Company was the architect that evaluated

744
00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:48,269
the building condition and their report includes a structural analysis

745
00:56:48,450 --> 00:56:52,999
from T. Y. Lynn and engineering firm. Their conclusions are

746
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:56,919
that the rehabilitation scope can be targeted, not wholesale, which

747
00:56:56,959 --> 00:57:02,439
is great news. Another consultant net positive consulting engineers evaluated

748
00:57:02,479 --> 00:57:06,439
the mechanical, electrical, and plumbing requirements, as well as fire

749
00:57:06,780 --> 00:57:11,639
sprinklers. They recommended modernization of systems that are at the

750
00:57:11,639 --> 00:57:14,359
end of their useful life and the installation of fire

751
00:57:14,380 --> 00:57:17,639
sprinklers, which becomes an important part of the historic preservation

752
00:57:17,820 --> 00:57:23,058
process as well. Hunter Smith is another architectural firm that

753
00:57:23,319 --> 00:57:26,338
performed an evaluation to determine if the functions of the

754
00:57:26,519 --> 00:57:30,558
city's current City Hall could fit in the building, and

755
00:57:30,558 --> 00:57:34,178
they concluded that it could. Uh, the report concludes that

756
00:57:34,359 --> 00:57:39,698
no physical condition of the property or the primary schoolhouse

757
00:57:39,738 --> 00:57:49,046
buildings was discovered that would preclude an adaptive reuse. Regarding

758
00:57:49,387 --> 00:57:54,086
environmental suitability, Earthsystem - specific conducted a phase one environmental

759
00:57:54,267 --> 00:58:00,410
site assessment and identified no recognized environmental conditions. Padre Associates

760
00:58:00,431 --> 00:58:06,810
surveyed identified asbestos containing materials, survey, and identified, asbestos containing

761
00:58:06,850 --> 00:58:11,470
materials and lead surface codings. They found that the amount

762
00:58:11,491 --> 00:58:14,990
of material and abatement required was normal for a building

763
00:58:14,990 --> 00:58:20,710
of this age requiring standard debatement management during renovation. As

764
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:23,150
a result, there are no environmental conditions on the property

765
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:32,921
that would preclude an adaptive reuse. Another important consideration is

766
00:58:33,342 --> 00:58:35,321
tile and boundary. The City needs to be sure that

767
00:58:35,361 --> 00:58:38,681
the property they are buying is exactly as it has

768
00:58:38,681 --> 00:58:41,401
been described and that there are no surprises such as

769
00:58:41,441 --> 00:58:45,862
easements or other encumbrances that surface later. And alta survey

770
00:58:45,902 --> 00:58:48,982
was prepared by MBS land surveys, which also gives the

771
00:58:49,022 --> 00:58:51,702
City the ability to obtain tidal insurance to cover any

772
00:58:51,803 --> 00:58:55,385
surprises that do emerge. During the Second Community meeting, it

773
00:58:55,385 --> 00:58:57,905
was noted that there may be a reversion clause to

774
00:58:58,006 --> 00:59:01,585
a previous owner if the school used discontinued. However, the

775
00:59:01,585 --> 00:59:05,825
City Attorney directly reviewed the 1936 Herrera deed to the

776
00:59:06,006 --> 00:59:09,025
Moro Union School District and confirmed that there is no

777
00:59:09,046 --> 00:59:13,265
reversion clause. Therefore, we've concluded that the property is suitable

778
00:59:13,446 --> 00:59:21,542
relative to Title and Boundary Concerns. Regulatory and historic suitability

779
00:59:21,803 --> 00:59:25,542
are considered together. First, I'll discuss the zoning and its

780
00:59:25,563 --> 00:59:29,942
suitability for potential future uses. The property is currently zone

781
00:59:30,043 --> 00:59:33,382
RH or high - density residential. So is natural for

782
00:59:33,422 --> 00:59:36,342
the report to consider housing development on a portion of

783
00:59:36,443 --> 00:59:40,077
the site. However, the current zoning would require a general

784
00:59:40,098 --> 00:59:43,997
plan amendment and rezone to chain some of the residential

785
00:59:44,098 --> 00:59:47,997
land to Public Facility if the historic schoolhouse buildings are

786
00:59:48,098 --> 00:59:52,933
rehabilitated for a new City Hall. Similarly, the current City

787
00:59:52,973 --> 00:59:56,293
Hall would need to be rezoned to residential to allow

788
00:59:56,394 --> 00:59:59,893
housing at that location for that to be developed on

789
00:59:59,893 --> 01:00:04,452
that site. This process would also include a local coastal

790
01:00:05,113 --> 01:00:08,852
plan amendment, subject to coastal commission review and approval. So

791
01:00:08,873 --> 01:00:12,292
from a regulatory standpoint, there is a defined and manageable

792
01:00:12,393 --> 01:00:15,172
pathway. But that will add time to the process.

793
01:00:22,704 --> 01:00:26,763
Regarding historic suitability, there are four buildings on the property

794
01:00:26,763 --> 01:00:32,326
that contribute to its historic significance. Two separate architectural historians,

795
01:00:32,366 --> 01:00:37,206
Robert Chattel and LSA Associates have concluded that the four

796
01:00:37,206 --> 01:00:40,486
buildings are eligible for the national register of historic places.

797
01:00:40,486 --> 01:00:45,311
And there is a nomination pending state review. This report

798
01:00:45,572 --> 01:00:48,751
assumes that the building, that the property is a historic

799
01:00:48,772 --> 01:00:52,831
resource that would be eligible to employ the California Historic

800
01:00:52,871 --> 01:00:56,631
Building Code and earn federal historic tax credits. Both of

801
01:00:56,631 --> 01:00:59,631
these regulatory features would help with the financial feasibility of

802
01:00:59,732 --> 01:01:03,778
a future rehabilitation. Through the due diligence process, we also

803
01:01:03,959 --> 01:01:07,138
were able to determine that rehabilitation of the school for

804
01:01:07,399 --> 01:01:10,978
use as a city hall could be accomplished consistent with

805
01:01:11,018 --> 01:01:13,618
the Secretary of the Interior's standards for the treatment of

806
01:01:13,879 --> 01:01:16,978
historic properties, which would ensure a good outcome on the

807
01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:22,739
CECLA front. To highlight the historic work covered by the

808
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,299
report in a little more detail. I want to note

809
01:01:25,299 --> 01:01:28,819
that the city hired LSA Associates to conduct a peer

810
01:01:28,819 --> 01:01:32,979
review of the complete historic resource assessment that was prepared

811
01:01:33,019 --> 01:01:36,959
for the Friends of Mora Elementary by Robert Chattel. The

812
01:01:36,959 --> 01:01:41,859
LSA work confirms chattel's conclusions and recommends a preservation framework

813
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:46,099
based on avoidance and minimization to preserve the building's character

814
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:50,419
- defining features as much as possible. LSA also prepared

815
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,459
a follow - up memo recently published on the City's

816
01:01:53,459 --> 01:01:57,939
website, which includes their opinion that the interior modifications identified

817
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,259
in the Hunter Smith test fit. And these include cloak

818
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:09,859
group partition modifications, the chalkboard treatments, and classroom door adjustments,

819
01:02:09,859 --> 01:02:13,139
that those can be designed to comply with the Secretary

820
01:02:13,179 --> 01:02:17,619
of the Interior Standards for rehabilitation, which is abbreviated as

821
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:26,959
SOI on this slide. Now on to value, the report

822
01:02:27,460 --> 01:02:31,119
discusses four value streams, but only one of those has

823
01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:35,439
a calculated value. For example, there is intrinsic value to

824
01:02:35,439 --> 01:02:38,559
the community of preserving a historic asset. There is also

825
01:02:38,740 --> 01:02:41,839
value in having a single civic campus where residents can

826
01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:45,759
go to get the services they need and consolidating operations

827
01:02:45,860 --> 01:02:49,791
will have some efficiencies for the city. Um, also along

828
01:02:49,831 --> 01:02:52,831
these lines, the fields currently provide open space and recreational

829
01:02:53,092 --> 01:02:57,209
value to the community. Those items are difficult to calculate

830
01:02:57,790 --> 01:03:00,329
the value of, and we have not attempted to do

831
01:03:00,329 --> 01:03:04,694
so. But to the extent that there is a future

832
01:03:04,795 --> 01:03:07,974
housing development on the property or on the current City

833
01:03:08,014 --> 01:03:11,654
Hall site, we have calculated value, and we've used a

834
01:03:11,694 --> 01:03:18,374
method called residual land value, or RLV as it's abbreviated.

835
01:03:18,374 --> 01:03:22,454
Um, to make that calculation. This is discussed in chapter

836
01:03:22,555 --> 01:03:26,374
10 of the report in detail. Residual land value is

837
01:03:26,475 --> 01:03:28,934
essentially the amount of money that a home builder will

838
01:03:29,195 --> 01:03:31,734
be able to pay for the land after taking into

839
01:03:31,755 --> 01:03:36,534
consideration home values, construction costs, and profit, and it is

840
01:03:36,534 --> 01:03:39,894
very different from what the appraisal says is the market

841
01:03:39,934 --> 01:03:43,179
value of the property. It is a conservative estimate, but

842
01:03:43,220 --> 01:03:45,999
one that gives the City more control over the final

843
01:03:46,180 --> 01:03:50,159
development scenario than would occur if the city just decided

844
01:03:50,340 --> 01:03:54,221
to sell the land to the highest bidder. There are

845
01:03:54,221 --> 01:03:57,061
also additional sources of revenue for the city. Some of

846
01:03:57,061 --> 01:03:59,821
these are noted in the report, and some include placeholder

847
01:03:59,821 --> 01:04:03,341
amounts. For example, there is the potential for historic tax

848
01:04:03,362 --> 01:04:08,221
credits to help offset certain rehabilitation costs. Uh, there could

849
01:04:08,221 --> 01:04:10,941
be grants available for some of this work. And there

850
01:04:10,941 --> 01:04:14,061
are other city properties, uh, such as the teen center

851
01:04:14,101 --> 01:04:17,261
site, uh, that the city could use to support the

852
01:04:17,602 --> 01:04:27,434
cost of acquisition of the property. All of this cost

853
01:04:27,775 --> 01:04:31,575
and value information is pulled together in chapter 10. Of

854
01:04:31,615 --> 01:04:36,321
the report to highlight a total city investment. Of purchase

855
01:04:36,361 --> 01:04:40,161
price and rehabilitation cost of approximately 14. 7 million dollars.

856
01:04:42,586 --> 01:04:44,832
And I think I got off. Did I get off.

857
01:04:47,565 --> 01:04:57,356
Okay. All right. All of the cost information, all the

858
01:04:57,356 --> 01:05:02,335
cost and value of information is. Yeah. Okay.

859
01:05:11,291 --> 01:05:19,945
This is. Going to get, um.

860
01:05:23,131 --> 01:05:29,263
I'm sorry. Okay, I'm going back to, um. Slide 13,

861
01:05:29,263 --> 01:05:31,783
and, uh, to talk about, uh, cost, because I think

862
01:05:31,783 --> 01:05:38,629
I jumped, I captured slide 13 and 14, John. What's

863
01:05:38,629 --> 01:05:42,389
that? Word from here. Okay. Thanks. Okay, sorry. So I

864
01:05:42,389 --> 01:05:47,349
just concluded the, um, the second slide on historic preservation

865
01:05:47,610 --> 01:05:49,749
more in depth. And now instead of jumping a value,

866
01:05:49,749 --> 01:05:52,727
I wanted to talk about cost. Um, so obviously cost

867
01:05:52,748 --> 01:05:55,367
is an important consideration and no doubt on everyone's mind.

868
01:05:56,672 --> 01:06:00,583
The report looks at this in two ways. First of

869
01:06:00,583 --> 01:06:02,903
all, the purchase price is below the appraised value of

870
01:06:02,903 --> 01:06:06,969
the property. So that is an important starting point. Next,

871
01:06:07,009 --> 01:06:09,289
the report looks at the cost of rehabilitation of the

872
01:06:09,390 --> 01:06:12,969
primary schoolhouse building and annex for a future City Hall.

873
01:06:13,891 --> 01:06:16,750
The rough order of magnitude estimate for this work is

874
01:06:17,011 --> 01:06:19,470
eight and a half million dollars, which is covered in

875
01:06:19,470 --> 01:06:22,646
detail on the report. Some of the major cost items

876
01:06:22,747 --> 01:06:27,366
identified in the estimate include fire sprinklers, millwork and lighting

877
01:06:27,366 --> 01:06:31,056
requirements to name a few. The decision about whether the

878
01:06:31,237 --> 01:06:34,896
cost of the property and the rehabilitation project are suitable

879
01:06:34,896 --> 01:06:38,256
to the city is a determination for the City Council.

880
01:06:38,256 --> 01:06:41,296
The report supports the council's decision by also looking at

881
01:06:41,336 --> 01:06:45,376
the value that could be created to help offset these

882
01:06:45,557 --> 01:06:52,198
costs. But before discussing what the report says about value

883
01:06:52,238 --> 01:06:55,546
generation again, sorry. I want to spend a little more

884
01:06:55,567 --> 01:06:59,466
time discussing the rough order of magnitude cost estimate what

885
01:06:59,466 --> 01:07:02,521
it is and what it isn't. Um, so the ROM

886
01:07:02,521 --> 01:07:07,628
is a, it's a pre - designed pricing exercise. It's

887
01:07:07,969 --> 01:07:10,828
not a bid. This is a price prepared by qualified

888
01:07:11,329 --> 01:07:15,868
and experienced architects and engineers before architectural and engineering design

889
01:07:16,449 --> 01:07:19,708
has been completed. It is a certainty that the actual

890
01:07:19,969 --> 01:07:22,668
cost will differ up or down depending on the final

891
01:07:22,769 --> 01:07:27,824
project design. The ROM builds in a contingency of 30

892
01:07:27,864 --> 01:07:32,704
percent that specifically covers costs associated with design, inflation and

893
01:07:32,744 --> 01:07:35,920
construction. All of this is to say that the ROM

894
01:07:36,021 --> 01:07:38,960
is not a menu of costs. Um, in order to

895
01:07:38,981 --> 01:07:41,520
arrive at a more accurate cost estimate, the City would

896
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,040
have to move forward with additional design work and studies.

897
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,920
Um, so this information in terms of the cost is

898
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,320
essentially the best information that we could develop at this

899
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:56,561
time. Um, and now onto value, we did cover this

900
01:07:56,742 --> 01:07:58,881
slide. And sorry, I went out of order. It's been

901
01:07:58,921 --> 01:08:03,121
a challenge to work with reading glasses at the same

902
01:08:03,121 --> 01:08:06,701
time. It's looking at the City Council at Distance. So

903
01:08:06,701 --> 01:08:09,753
I appreciate you hanging with me on that. Um, but

904
01:08:09,854 --> 01:08:12,633
just to summarize this slide, as I mentioned, some of

905
01:08:12,633 --> 01:08:16,873
these streams are qualitative. Others are quantitative. Um, the rehabilitation

906
01:08:16,894 --> 01:08:21,593
value, the operational consolidation, the fields. Those are intrinsic values

907
01:08:21,774 --> 01:08:26,553
that weren't quantified. But the, uh, the report does quantify

908
01:08:26,894 --> 01:08:30,313
the residential land sale and proceeds that the city might

909
01:08:30,494 --> 01:08:35,033
receive, uh, from a development partner. And that was what

910
01:08:35,033 --> 01:08:39,993
I was discussing about residual land value. Um, and so,

911
01:08:39,993 --> 01:08:44,793
uh, the next slide then gets into what the details

912
01:08:45,294 --> 01:08:49,725
of those revenues are. So all of the cost and

913
01:08:49,725 --> 01:08:53,245
value information is pulled together in chapter 10 of the

914
01:08:53,285 --> 01:08:56,685
report to highlight a total city investment and purchase of

915
01:08:56,685 --> 01:09:01,485
purchase price and rehabilitation cost of approximately 14. 7 million

916
01:09:03,186 --> 01:09:06,125
and considers three different development scenarios to show what the

917
01:09:06,386 --> 01:09:10,045
long - term remaining funding requirement would be for each

918
01:09:10,146 --> 01:09:14,100
scenario. Each of these scenarios includes 50 Affordable housing units

919
01:09:14,681 --> 01:09:19,060
generating 2. 25 million dollars in value for the market

920
01:09:19,081 --> 01:09:23,380
rate units, the residual land value is 52, 800 dollars

921
01:09:23,481 --> 01:09:25,940
per unit so you can see that in this model,

922
01:09:25,940 --> 01:09:28,660
the more units you build, the lower the remaining funding

923
01:09:28,700 --> 01:09:33,380
requirement. Based on this scenario, which is just an exercise,

924
01:09:33,401 --> 01:09:36,900
not a plan of any sort. The remaining funding requirement

925
01:09:37,241 --> 01:09:41,220
would range from 7. 8 million to 2. 5 million,

926
01:09:41,220 --> 01:09:45,317
depending on the number of market rate units constructed. The

927
01:09:45,338 --> 01:09:48,837
report also highlights that these units could be located on

928
01:09:49,098 --> 01:09:52,437
any city - owned property. The scenario isn't specific as

929
01:09:52,477 --> 01:09:55,157
to how many units are constructed on the Moral Elementary

930
01:09:55,178 --> 01:10:00,960
property versus the current City Hall property, for example. On

931
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,240
another note is that these numbers do include a placeholder

932
01:10:04,261 --> 01:10:07,760
of 2 million dollars for the Teen Center property, which

933
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,080
has been discussed as a potential funding source for the

934
01:10:10,581 --> 01:10:15,353
acquisition. Items not factored in, but mentioned in the report,

935
01:10:15,353 --> 01:10:19,353
include the value from the historic tax credits, achieving a

936
01:10:19,454 --> 01:10:25,104
higher residual land value. Creating a CFD to support infrastructure

937
01:10:25,205 --> 01:10:34,917
costs, as well as grants. So there are important caveats

938
01:10:34,938 --> 01:10:38,967
that are detailed in the report. The revenue model is

939
01:10:39,068 --> 01:10:43,127
based on a study completed by Deloitte of this actual

940
01:10:43,468 --> 01:10:48,359
site in 2020. The analysis is similar to the ROF

941
01:10:48,359 --> 01:10:50,759
order of magnitude cost estimate in that this is a

942
01:10:50,780 --> 01:10:54,399
model, not an actual bid. The model uses the residual

943
01:10:54,660 --> 01:10:57,519
LAN value, which is a conservative measure of value that

944
01:10:57,540 --> 01:11:02,050
the City might receive for the land. Developer Prophet is

945
01:11:02,231 --> 01:11:07,490
assumed at 22 percent if the city chooses to go

946
01:11:07,490 --> 01:11:12,358
down that path. In the model, home sale prices are

947
01:11:12,358 --> 01:11:15,958
escalated 30 percent from 2020 values, which is lower than

948
01:11:15,979 --> 01:11:18,678
what we have actually seen in the market. But we

949
01:11:18,678 --> 01:11:21,558
thought it was reasonable as it keeps houses, the home

950
01:11:21,579 --> 01:11:26,598
prices below 1 million dollars in today's money based on,

951
01:11:26,598 --> 01:11:30,620
and that's based on preferences expressed by the community. Construction

952
01:11:30,801 --> 01:11:33,420
costs are escalated to their current levels according to the

953
01:11:33,521 --> 01:11:38,060
California Construction Cost Index. The Report highlights in chapter 10

954
01:11:38,081 --> 01:11:41,980
that the calculated remaining funding requirement is very sensitive to

955
01:11:42,241 --> 01:11:46,980
all of these factors. Construction costs, home values, developer. So

956
01:11:46,980 --> 01:11:49,660
it is important to note that the actual values the

957
01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:52,460
City will experience in the future will certainly be different

958
01:11:52,961 --> 01:11:56,140
from what these numbers are today. Uh, and as we

959
01:11:56,180 --> 01:11:57,900
all know, the market can go up and it can

960
01:11:57,900 --> 01:12:01,100
go down. As a result, these numbers and the remaining

961
01:12:01,201 --> 01:12:04,860
funding requirements should be thought of as a snapshot of

962
01:12:04,900 --> 01:12:12,440
a point in time. One assumption included in the report

963
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:14,520
is that if the city moves forward with the purchase

964
01:12:14,781 --> 01:12:18,120
and ultimately pursues a project like the working scenario described

965
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,400
in the report, execution through a Public - private partnership

966
01:12:21,501 --> 01:12:25,580
is assumed. This is because a multifaceted project that involves

967
01:12:25,761 --> 01:12:31,980
historic rehabilitation, uh, with housing development, um, that span specialties

968
01:12:32,020 --> 01:12:35,420
that are beyond city staff's capability to perform while also

969
01:12:35,521 --> 01:12:39,100
doing their normal work. In addition, a partner is needed

970
01:12:39,140 --> 01:12:42,220
to take advantage of any historic tax credits that may

971
01:12:42,241 --> 01:12:45,720
be earned through the rehabilitation of historic buildings. Since the

972
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,300
City is not a taxable entity, you are not eligible

973
01:12:48,340 --> 01:12:53,163
to earn those tax credits directly. The visioning process pursued

974
01:12:53,163 --> 01:12:57,003
by the council would help shape the terms of selection

975
01:12:57,024 --> 01:12:59,963
of a partner, and that could be accomplished through a

976
01:13:00,003 --> 01:13:09,527
competitive qualifications process for example. If the city decides to

977
01:13:09,527 --> 01:13:11,927
move forward and closes escrow to acquire the property, there

978
01:13:11,967 --> 01:13:15,207
is no commitment to any future use. The City would

979
01:13:15,247 --> 01:13:17,767
have time to re - engage the community and enlist

980
01:13:17,807 --> 01:13:21,927
technical experts to help inform what is possible. The visioning

981
01:13:21,927 --> 01:13:25,847
process that the City pursues could be designed to help

982
01:13:26,028 --> 01:13:28,887
shape the development program and the search for a development

983
01:13:28,908 --> 01:13:33,287
partner. Most importantly, council retains full discretion over the next

984
01:13:33,388 --> 01:13:38,876
steps. So this is the next - to - final

985
01:13:38,897 --> 01:13:41,436
slide and it highlights the findings included in the report

986
01:13:41,937 --> 01:13:45,996
across each of the six dimensions of suitability, the physical,

987
01:13:45,996 --> 01:13:50,316
environmental, title and boundary, historical and regulatory, as well as

988
01:13:50,577 --> 01:13:56,496
cost and value. And to conclude, uh, the report indicates

989
01:13:56,536 --> 01:14:00,176
that no condition that we found on the property obviously

990
01:14:00,197 --> 01:14:06,576
disqualifies from acquisition and consideration of the rehabilitation and development

991
01:14:06,616 --> 01:14:10,496
scenarios that we evaluated. The working scenario is feasible under

992
01:14:10,757 --> 01:14:15,513
identified regulations and processes. There is a remaining funding requirement

993
01:14:15,614 --> 01:14:18,473
present that the city would have to address and some

994
01:14:18,473 --> 01:14:22,984
sources of potential additional revenue are identified. The determination of

995
01:14:23,005 --> 01:14:25,704
whether or not the property is suitable for the city's

996
01:14:25,704 --> 01:14:28,584
use under the current purchase and sale agreement is a

997
01:14:28,584 --> 01:14:31,224
decision that only the City Council can make. If the

998
01:14:31,264 --> 01:14:34,584
city chooses to move forward, pass this due diligence period,

999
01:14:34,584 --> 01:14:39,121
close of escrow is scheduled for October 31st. So again,

1000
01:14:39,121 --> 01:14:41,521
I'd like to thank you. I'm Michael Codrin, the due

1001
01:14:41,521 --> 01:14:44,561
diligence manager for the project. And, uh, this final slide

1002
01:14:44,822 --> 01:14:48,321
lists all the consultants who contributed to the report. I'm

1003
01:14:48,361 --> 01:14:50,161
available for any questions you have, but I think first

1004
01:14:50,262 --> 01:14:54,276
I'll turn it back to City Manager, Craig. Thanks, Michael

1005
01:14:54,537 --> 01:14:58,676
Counsel. Um, uh, that's our report. Obviously, the due diligence

1006
01:14:58,676 --> 01:15:00,596
report. We've released it. Wanted to release it early from

1007
01:15:00,617 --> 01:15:02,996
this meeting as opposed to the normal timeframe. We did

1008
01:15:02,996 --> 01:15:05,796
that about two weeks ago. Uh, and so the community

1009
01:15:06,057 --> 01:15:08,276
and the council, you had time to review that report.

1010
01:15:08,276 --> 01:15:11,076
It's a lot of information. Uh, I certainly understand that

1011
01:15:11,337 --> 01:15:14,996
there are rules of procedure in this meeting because it

1012
01:15:14,996 --> 01:15:17,556
is more of a formal setting as it is a

1013
01:15:17,556 --> 01:15:20,916
council meeting. But we certainly stand available to have back

1014
01:15:20,956 --> 01:15:23,396
and forth with a council with answering any questions, providing

1015
01:15:23,577 --> 01:15:26,036
any input. We can on any comments you hear tonight

1016
01:15:26,076 --> 01:15:29,476
that you would like clarify or some answers on. So,

1017
01:15:29,476 --> 01:15:31,316
uh, I'll leave that up to you to respond to

1018
01:15:31,356 --> 01:15:35,156
us with questions. We have several different items in each

1019
01:15:35,156 --> 01:15:37,956
of the areas in which we gave a brief overview

1020
01:15:37,977 --> 01:15:44,116
tonight financing use, potential, uh, for revenue off the site.

1021
01:15:44,116 --> 01:15:45,796
We've got a lot of information in each of those

1022
01:15:45,796 --> 01:15:48,596
categories. And so we'd be willing to offer you up

1023
01:15:49,257 --> 01:15:51,796
any back and forth you'd like as a council as

1024
01:15:51,796 --> 01:15:55,469
you go through the meeting. Thank you, Mr. Craig. Thank

1025
01:15:55,469 --> 01:15:58,269
you, Mr. Caldron for the report and for everyone who

1026
01:15:58,450 --> 01:16:05,700
participated staff, Mr. Singwald and Ms. Conrad. Questions starting on

1027
01:16:05,700 --> 01:16:12,210
my left. Thank you, Madam Mayor. The report generally answered

1028
01:16:12,471 --> 01:16:16,370
all my questions. So, uh, so that the Public may

1029
01:16:16,391 --> 01:16:21,730
be aware, however, uh, Mr. Cawdren, could you estimate approximately,

1030
01:16:21,730 --> 01:16:24,130
well, can you tell us, um, how much time it

1031
01:16:24,311 --> 01:16:28,450
took to compile the report and maybe approximately the hours

1032
01:16:28,490 --> 01:16:30,690
that went into it just so that we have an

1033
01:16:30,730 --> 01:16:34,930
awareness of, uh, the level of depth of this report.

1034
01:16:37,007 --> 01:16:40,346
Well, your city manager drives a tough bargain. So I

1035
01:16:40,367 --> 01:16:45,226
did not bill hourly for this project. There were a

1036
01:16:45,226 --> 01:16:48,906
lot of hours. We met weekly, um, as a team,

1037
01:16:48,906 --> 01:16:50,506
uh, you know, there were a lot of visits to

1038
01:16:50,546 --> 01:16:53,866
the property, uh, working with the consultants to oversee the

1039
01:16:53,906 --> 01:16:56,506
work that they were doing. Um, and to understand the

1040
01:16:56,546 --> 01:16:58,746
property. So I can't give you an estimate of how

1041
01:16:58,786 --> 01:17:01,546
much time, but every week we were, you know, putting

1042
01:17:01,586 --> 01:17:06,266
in 10, 15, 20 hours at least, uh, of my

1043
01:17:06,266 --> 01:17:12,666
time. But everybody contributed. And yeah, it's been consistent efforts

1044
01:17:12,927 --> 01:17:15,295
into March to get to this point. I'll just add

1045
01:17:15,335 --> 01:17:18,895
to that appreciation of, uh, subcommittee from the council, counselors

1046
01:17:19,076 --> 01:17:21,775
Luffay and Landrum, um, were a big part of this

1047
01:17:22,196 --> 01:17:25,355
and received updates regularly from us throughout the process. Uh,

1048
01:17:25,476 --> 01:17:27,535
and gave their input. So thanks to them for being

1049
01:17:27,535 --> 01:17:34,425
involved as well. Any other questions. Councilmember Edwards questions.

1050
01:17:37,896 --> 01:17:41,155
Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to also express,

1051
01:17:41,155 --> 01:17:43,635
um, my gratitude for all the work that went into

1052
01:17:44,136 --> 01:17:49,555
the due diligence report. Thank you, Mr. Codran. And you

1053
01:17:49,816 --> 01:17:58,355
working with the support of staff, um, that's greatly appreciated.

1054
01:17:58,395 --> 01:18:02,435
I would also like to express, um, thank you to,

1055
01:18:02,435 --> 01:18:06,835
um, council members, Landrum and Le Fay for working alongside

1056
01:18:07,016 --> 01:18:12,035
all the parties and stakeholders as that was very informative

1057
01:18:12,056 --> 01:18:16,675
as well. Everything that they brought to us, um, all

1058
01:18:16,776 --> 01:18:22,311
the previous council meetings and other meetings. I'm going to

1059
01:18:22,311 --> 01:18:24,911
pass on questions right now. Mayor, I'm looking forward to

1060
01:18:25,252 --> 01:18:29,531
hearing some of what the community has to say, um,

1061
01:18:29,531 --> 01:18:31,711
and all of you as well. And so I will

1062
01:18:32,132 --> 01:18:41,077
reserve my questions. Um, I don't, I don't really have

1063
01:18:41,117 --> 01:18:43,697
any questions either. I just really want to thank, um,

1064
01:18:43,898 --> 01:18:48,517
Mr. Caudrin and the City team for this such an

1065
01:18:48,557 --> 01:18:55,397
extensive report and so much information here. I think we're

1066
01:18:55,418 --> 01:19:03,553
really going into this with our eyes wide open. Thank

1067
01:19:03,553 --> 01:19:06,833
you very much. Um, we're going to move into Public

1068
01:19:07,014 --> 01:19:09,393
comment. I have some speaker slips to start out with.

1069
01:19:10,146 --> 01:19:12,845
And I asked the City clerk, but I didn't announce

1070
01:19:12,885 --> 01:19:14,605
it at the beginning. I was hoping to keep everybody

1071
01:19:15,026 --> 01:19:17,565
at two minutes so that we have enough time to

1072
01:19:17,605 --> 01:19:20,445
deliberate and we're not doing this at 9. 30 tonight.

1073
01:19:20,445 --> 01:19:23,965
Um, so, uh, I will use the speaker slips in

1074
01:19:24,005 --> 01:19:25,805
just a minute. And I will ask for those few

1075
01:19:25,805 --> 01:19:27,645
of you who signed up for three minutes. If you

1076
01:19:27,645 --> 01:19:30,425
can just be a succinct and quick as possible. But

1077
01:19:30,425 --> 01:19:33,085
before we move into that, because I expect this to

1078
01:19:33,085 --> 01:19:36,925
be, um, a little time consuming for the Public comment.

1079
01:19:36,925 --> 01:19:38,125
We're going to take a really quick break.

1080
01:30:49,838 --> 01:30:59,656
Thank you everyone. We're ready to resume the meeting. I

1081
01:30:59,696 --> 01:30:59,816
know.

1082
01:31:19,539 --> 01:31:25,726
Everyone. Before we get started on Public Comment, I want

1083
01:31:25,726 --> 01:31:27,966
to turn it back over to City Manager Craig real

1084
01:31:28,006 --> 01:31:32,297
briefly. Thank you, council. One item I wanted to share

1085
01:31:32,798 --> 01:31:36,377
with you is regarded to the financing of the purchase

1086
01:31:36,558 --> 01:31:40,057
and or a conversation that I have been having with

1087
01:31:41,758 --> 01:31:46,857
the personnel from the school district about three weeks ago.

1088
01:31:46,857 --> 01:31:49,817
I contacted the business manager, I believe it's a business

1089
01:31:49,857 --> 01:31:53,097
manager's time. Ryan Pickerton with the Unified School District and

1090
01:31:53,097 --> 01:31:55,657
asked him if we could meet to talk about the

1091
01:31:55,838 --> 01:31:57,977
5. 3 million that we may owe them, or the

1092
01:31:57,977 --> 01:32:00,937
4. 8 remaining. We met together and have met for

1093
01:32:01,038 --> 01:32:05,897
a couple times, and they have agreed to, if the

1094
01:32:06,078 --> 01:32:08,777
city is interested, they have agreed to carry the debt

1095
01:32:09,518 --> 01:32:12,857
of the 5. 3, again, 4. 8 remaining, because we've

1096
01:32:12,857 --> 01:32:20,223
put 500, 000 dollars. If the council chooses to continue

1097
01:32:20,484 --> 01:32:24,463
with the process this evening, they have agreed to a

1098
01:32:24,463 --> 01:32:27,903
scenario under which they would carry the debt for our

1099
01:32:27,924 --> 01:32:31,743
remaining purpose. We would take ownership of it by the,

1100
01:32:31,783 --> 01:32:35,823
as the purchase in sale agreement details by October 31st.

1101
01:32:35,823 --> 01:32:40,063
We would own it outright. We would also enter into

1102
01:32:40,084 --> 01:32:42,383
a binding contract with them that we would owe them

1103
01:32:42,644 --> 01:32:47,263
the remaining 4. 8 million over the next three years.

1104
01:32:47,303 --> 01:32:50,653
That would be no payment. Three years. That would be

1105
01:32:50,653 --> 01:32:54,778
no payment, further payment this year. And a 500, 000

1106
01:32:54,799 --> 01:32:58,210
dollar payment in one year. And then that would leave

1107
01:32:58,210 --> 01:33:03,405
us with a 4. 3 million deficit. After one year,

1108
01:33:03,405 --> 01:33:08,125
when we give the first 500, 000 of the principal

1109
01:33:08,165 --> 01:33:18,125
remaining, interest with start. One

1110
01:33:18,125 --> 01:33:19,565
year from then, but two years from now, we would

1111
01:33:19,605 --> 01:33:23,133
pay a balance of 2 million dollars. And then in

1112
01:33:23,173 --> 01:33:26,333
the third year from this fall 2029, we would pay

1113
01:33:26,594 --> 01:33:30,813
the remaining 2. 3 million of principle, and any accumulated

1114
01:33:31,074 --> 01:33:34,973
interest that would begin on the 4. 3 and a

1115
01:33:34,973 --> 01:33:37,773
year from now. So that'd be no interest accruing and

1116
01:33:37,773 --> 01:33:42,404
no payments until one year from now. And then in

1117
01:33:42,404 --> 01:33:45,444
one year we would pay them 500, 000 dollars and

1118
01:33:45,444 --> 01:33:50,644
they would begin accruing interest on the remaining balance. That

1119
01:33:51,065 --> 01:33:55,251
interest amount would be. Our student finance directors less than

1120
01:33:55,272 --> 01:33:58,691
200, 000 dollars, as I believe what we calculated to

1121
01:33:58,691 --> 01:34:01,651
be over that, over the final two years of that

1122
01:34:01,651 --> 01:34:04,232
agreement. There was some discussion that if we were to

1123
01:34:04,232 --> 01:34:06,792
pay off early with selling property or coming up with

1124
01:34:06,973 --> 01:34:09,752
a large sum, uh, that they would forgo that interest

1125
01:34:10,413 --> 01:34:13,572
that had been accumulated over that time. And so, uh,

1126
01:34:13,613 --> 01:34:16,152
that's a long way of saying that the school district

1127
01:34:16,413 --> 01:34:21,272
has agreed to be our carrier of our debt payments

1128
01:34:21,312 --> 01:34:24,072
would be 500, 000 in one year. Give us two

1129
01:34:24,112 --> 01:34:26,792
years then to come up with another two million to

1130
01:34:26,792 --> 01:34:28,872
pay them. And three years to pay the balance of

1131
01:34:30,013 --> 01:34:33,912
2. 3 final payment and then any accrued interest that

1132
01:34:33,952 --> 01:34:36,352
would be still outstanding in three years from now. So

1133
01:34:36,733 --> 01:34:40,552
that is one scenario, another scenario that the finance director

1134
01:34:40,552 --> 01:34:47,432
and I looked at was borrowing from different area USDA

1135
01:34:47,472 --> 01:34:50,232
loans or EDA loans or other instruments that the state

1136
01:34:50,272 --> 01:34:53,512
may offer interest rates are very high on those, certainly

1137
01:34:53,512 --> 01:34:56,472
more than two percent that would be willing to do.

1138
01:34:56,472 --> 01:35:00,392
I think that, um, we have done some preliminary looking

1139
01:35:00,392 --> 01:35:03,832
about how the City might come up with, uh, the

1140
01:35:03,853 --> 01:35:08,472
4. 8 additional money's. And with this added two years

1141
01:35:08,512 --> 01:35:10,552
to come up with the main portion of what would

1142
01:35:10,552 --> 01:35:13,432
be due, I think we could enter into some other

1143
01:35:13,472 --> 01:35:15,912
sort of agreement if we, at that time, hadn't sold

1144
01:35:15,933 --> 01:35:18,952
property or didn't have any, uh, additional revenue coming in

1145
01:35:18,992 --> 01:35:20,952
that we could borrow the money from somewhere else at

1146
01:35:20,992 --> 01:35:23,892
that time, uh, to repay them. And so that, uh,

1147
01:35:24,333 --> 01:35:27,672
that ended yesterday afternoon in discussions with the school district

1148
01:35:27,693 --> 01:35:31,192
personnel, uh, they, uh, he gave me a green light

1149
01:35:31,232 --> 01:35:33,832
to discuss this. He had discussed it previously with the

1150
01:35:34,013 --> 01:35:38,072
school district board. And they, uh, again, reiterated that their

1151
01:35:38,112 --> 01:35:40,072
goal was to have the City own this site and

1152
01:35:40,072 --> 01:35:41,592
they would be willing to work with us. And I

1153
01:35:41,592 --> 01:35:44,472
think this is proof. They have worked very well with

1154
01:35:44,573 --> 01:35:47,672
me as we've gone through this process. And so I

1155
01:35:47,712 --> 01:35:49,512
just want to let you know that that is an

1156
01:35:49,512 --> 01:35:52,792
option that the city has. Should we end up continue

1157
01:35:52,792 --> 01:35:56,851
with this and pushing it as of October 31st. Thank

1158
01:35:56,851 --> 01:35:59,891
you for sharing that update. Yes, ma'am. Appreciate that. And

1159
01:35:59,891 --> 01:36:02,211
apologize for the late notice in getting that to you.

1160
01:36:02,251 --> 01:36:04,131
It has been an ongoing discussion over the past three

1161
01:36:04,171 --> 01:36:06,851
weeks. And again, we just confirmed that in dealt with

1162
01:36:06,891 --> 01:36:10,905
get that deal yesterday. So. Thank you. With that, I

1163
01:36:10,905 --> 01:36:15,025
will open public comment, um, again, reminder, um, that we're

1164
01:36:15,025 --> 01:36:18,385
doing two minutes. Thank you very much, everybody. Um, I'm

1165
01:36:18,385 --> 01:36:21,105
going to read three at a time. Tina Wiener followed

1166
01:36:21,105 --> 01:36:27,672
by Barry Brannon followed by Pat Mangioni. Ma'am, Manginia, I

1167
01:36:27,672 --> 01:36:37,356
hope I'm saying I'm right. Sorry. Bull, am

1168
01:36:37,356 --> 01:36:39,156
I? Cause sitting in the cheap seats, I don't always

1169
01:36:39,177 --> 01:36:43,437
hear everyone. Um, thank you, uh, City Manager Craig. Uh,

1170
01:36:43,477 --> 01:36:45,837
he addressed some of my questions. So I'm not even

1171
01:36:45,858 --> 01:36:49,277
going to use the two minutes that I was allocated.

1172
01:36:49,277 --> 01:36:53,837
I look forward to hearing and seeing more detail about

1173
01:36:54,338 --> 01:36:56,637
how we're going to put a plan together for that

1174
01:36:56,738 --> 01:37:01,197
property and what those details may look like and what

1175
01:37:01,218 --> 01:37:06,477
properties we may be considering for sale and subsequent development.

1176
01:37:06,477 --> 01:37:10,557
And, uh, thank you for letting the city manager present

1177
01:37:10,557 --> 01:37:13,277
that information and do away with my last minute and

1178
01:37:13,277 --> 01:37:22,357
a half. City manager mayor council.

1179
01:37:23,102 --> 01:37:26,064
Thank you for that news. Uh, this obviously is a

1180
01:37:26,064 --> 01:37:28,543
legacy property. And if you look at the pictures, you

1181
01:37:28,583 --> 01:37:31,623
can see how it Kaiser Community Center, which will be

1182
01:37:31,623 --> 01:37:34,623
the future City Hall with the, all the opportunities there.

1183
01:37:35,386 --> 01:37:38,485
Uh, 20 years now. Thumbnail got saved. Wow. Those guys

1184
01:37:38,586 --> 01:37:41,020
really had it figured out. Look what we got here.

1185
01:37:41,871 --> 01:37:44,017
Look what we got here. So I want to say

1186
01:37:44,057 --> 01:37:47,388
thank you for all your efforts. I did read the

1187
01:37:47,388 --> 01:37:51,226
due diligence report. Oh, what a pain. And that's a,

1188
01:37:51,226 --> 01:37:53,386
that was tough. But, uh, we could pay for it.

1189
01:37:53,655 --> 01:37:55,934
We could pay for it with properties we have. The

1190
01:37:55,934 --> 01:37:58,114
Teen Center. And if you look at the plot plan

1191
01:37:58,135 --> 01:38:01,554
we had this parcel is actually three parcels. We have

1192
01:38:01,735 --> 01:38:04,434
the green space. Then we have the part on the

1193
01:38:04,434 --> 01:38:07,984
other side of Surf Street. So basically my vision is

1194
01:38:08,024 --> 01:38:09,664
to sell the piece on the other side of Surf

1195
01:38:09,664 --> 01:38:12,384
Street for someone to put in the proper number of

1196
01:38:12,424 --> 01:38:16,575
houses. That's high density already. That satisfies some housing requirements

1197
01:38:17,156 --> 01:38:20,255
generate some revenue. So I think that we can finally,

1198
01:38:20,255 --> 01:38:23,535
the rest of the money. And then facetiously, um, the

1199
01:38:23,796 --> 01:38:27,135
Montessori schools have agreed to increase their monthly payment to

1200
01:38:27,956 --> 01:38:36,960
cover the rest of it. Uh, Pat Manjoni, my letter

1201
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:40,540
got a little outdated just by his speech also. But

1202
01:38:40,741 --> 01:38:43,680
I do feel that the city has to consider other

1203
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:47,920
things that need to be done here, especially street repair,

1204
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,000
um, a lot of us would probably vote for street

1205
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:55,120
repair, um, over a new City Hall. Sorry. Um, I

1206
01:38:55,141 --> 01:38:57,440
felt that you were maybe a little bit in a

1207
01:38:57,480 --> 01:38:59,840
hurry to get all of this completed. I come from

1208
01:39:00,101 --> 01:39:02,800
South Pasadena where we are the little city that has

1209
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:06,880
fought the 710 freeway forever. Moving a library is a

1210
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,680
big deal. And especially a beloved library. And I think

1211
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,720
that's what kind of doomed the 710 freeway in South

1212
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:16,160
Pasadena at that time. Um, so I would like you

1213
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:19,760
to consider that. Um, the city is having a hard

1214
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,480
time meeting other expenses. And we all need to be

1215
01:39:22,501 --> 01:39:26,240
aware of budget deficits. We need more revenue generating things

1216
01:39:26,581 --> 01:39:29,420
and property in the city to help us out. Um,

1217
01:39:29,941 --> 01:39:33,360
all of us want to see old buildings, um, reserved

1218
01:39:34,741 --> 01:39:37,840
preserved. Um, so I am for that, but I want

1219
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,160
it to be used in a good way. And maybe

1220
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:45,745
a revenue generating idea. Thank you. Thank you. Tim Crawley

1221
01:39:45,926 --> 01:39:48,385
followed by Courtney Schepler followed by Janice Peters.

1222
01:39:59,115 --> 01:40:02,454
Good evening City Council. Everybody else, including the guy who

1223
01:40:02,555 --> 01:40:05,474
just ripped up about half of my presentation here. Um,

1224
01:40:06,155 --> 01:40:09,574
I'm not a friend of the Mortal Elementary, but I

1225
01:40:09,574 --> 01:40:12,454
have fond memories of it. Like that first day of

1226
01:40:12,494 --> 01:40:16,934
kindergarten for my kids or the great staff and the

1227
01:40:16,934 --> 01:40:22,294
teachers that live there and the fierce protective dedicated PTA

1228
01:40:22,315 --> 01:40:27,307
moms. And I don't know. I'm just, um, concerned about

1229
01:40:27,328 --> 01:40:30,667
the funding. I said he put a he alleviated a

1230
01:40:30,667 --> 01:40:32,267
lot of my fears, but there are still some serious

1231
01:40:32,448 --> 01:40:35,307
concerns. I mean, right now, according to the budget, Public

1232
01:40:35,488 --> 01:40:39,067
Works doesn't have enough money to go clean effectively the

1233
01:40:39,107 --> 01:40:41,627
community center every day. And now we're going to give

1234
01:40:41,627 --> 01:40:44,327
them a nine acre campus to take care of. How

1235
01:40:44,327 --> 01:40:46,267
are we going to pay for that? I'm also worried

1236
01:40:46,848 --> 01:40:49,147
about where all the money's going to come from. I

1237
01:40:49,147 --> 01:40:51,387
mean, I've read some people are talking about going into

1238
01:40:52,208 --> 01:40:54,747
the tapping entire reserve fund. And that doesn't seem like

1239
01:40:54,848 --> 01:40:57,867
a wise thing to do with a monster Elninia supposedly

1240
01:40:58,048 --> 01:41:02,507
approaching us this winner and with homeless populated Tinder dry

1241
01:41:03,408 --> 01:41:05,987
state park on the east side of our city. I

1242
01:41:05,987 --> 01:41:08,507
mean, it's a big concern. I live right near there.

1243
01:41:08,507 --> 01:41:11,387
Um, I'm pretty sure I know how this vote's going

1244
01:41:11,387 --> 01:41:14,107
to go tonight. But the question is ultimately, are we

1245
01:41:14,147 --> 01:41:17,387
going to end up spending 500, 000 or 14 million

1246
01:41:17,408 --> 01:41:23,547
dollars still is an unessential, unfunded, unbudgeted property that's going

1247
01:41:23,547 --> 01:41:26,747
to generate an unknown amount of revenue from an unknown

1248
01:41:26,768 --> 01:41:30,387
source. It's your decision tonight. I've seen this happen. 40

1249
01:41:30,848 --> 01:41:32,347
over the last 40 years, I've seen something like this

1250
01:41:32,688 --> 01:41:36,487
happen numerous times. Some passion group comes in, you know,

1251
01:41:36,487 --> 01:41:40,107
representing the majority while the majority's out there distracted just

1252
01:41:40,107 --> 01:41:44,667
by life. Um, and then when it hits the fan,

1253
01:41:44,667 --> 01:41:47,147
it hits the fan. I mean, it's your choice tonight,

1254
01:41:47,147 --> 01:41:49,947
but there are going to be consequences, especially if you

1255
01:41:49,968 --> 01:41:59,959
mess with our library. Thank you very much. Good evening.

1256
01:41:59,959 --> 01:42:02,359
Courtney Schepler, I think I'll just keep it short and

1257
01:42:02,359 --> 01:42:04,999
say I agree with most of what Tim just said.

1258
01:42:04,999 --> 01:42:07,559
And I really do appreciate the work that, um, Mr.

1259
01:42:07,599 --> 01:42:10,999
Craig has done on the, uh, short term financing arrangement

1260
01:42:11,039 --> 01:42:13,559
with the district. So it's, it's one thing to think

1261
01:42:13,599 --> 01:42:17,699
about this as the current five million dollar proposal, but

1262
01:42:17,699 --> 01:42:19,959
I feel like the conversation always gets lumped in with

1263
01:42:20,300 --> 01:42:22,899
and we're going to have this new City Hall. And

1264
01:42:22,899 --> 01:42:25,639
that's going to cost this extra, you know, eight plus

1265
01:42:25,660 --> 01:42:28,439
million, um, and I think it would really help the

1266
01:42:28,460 --> 01:42:31,879
Public to have clear heads about this. If you can

1267
01:42:31,919 --> 01:42:35,559
put some bookmarks around what we're really talking about tonight,

1268
01:42:35,559 --> 01:42:37,799
what you're committing to and what you're absolutely not committing

1269
01:42:37,839 --> 01:42:41,559
to yet until you've got more information that pencils out.

1270
01:42:41,559 --> 01:42:44,279
And that's what's been missing. We have this huge potential

1271
01:42:44,300 --> 01:42:47,719
expenditure, but we're not seeing how you actually pay for

1272
01:42:47,719 --> 01:42:49,799
it and what the rest of that plan look like.

1273
01:42:49,799 --> 01:42:59,509
Thank you. Hello, I'm

1274
01:42:59,690 --> 01:43:02,389
Janice Peters. I have a different viewpoint on all of

1275
01:43:02,410 --> 01:43:05,029
this. I think there is a lot of things that

1276
01:43:05,130 --> 01:43:07,349
we, well, first of all, I took the tour the

1277
01:43:07,389 --> 01:43:11,189
other day. And I was impressed with the condition of

1278
01:43:11,210 --> 01:43:13,729
the property. I thought it was going to be, you

1279
01:43:13,729 --> 01:43:15,589
know, moldy and all that stuff. It's in really good

1280
01:43:15,589 --> 01:43:17,909
shape. I know the stuff behind the walls that needs

1281
01:43:18,010 --> 01:43:21,989
fixing. But we can do that. And eight million dollars

1282
01:43:22,490 --> 01:43:28,709
extra, City Hall for a million dollars. It's actually cheap.

1283
01:43:28,709 --> 01:43:31,429
And this is a good property already that people love

1284
01:43:31,850 --> 01:43:35,918
and could be a wonderful civic center. Which I've hoped

1285
01:43:36,419 --> 01:43:39,358
for 10 years on now, I think. Anyway, I think

1286
01:43:39,398 --> 01:43:42,958
that what can happen, having seen the condition of the

1287
01:43:42,998 --> 01:43:48,398
building, there are certain rental opportunities there, offices could be

1288
01:43:48,499 --> 01:43:53,818
rented their. Montessori is already there still paying rent. And

1289
01:43:53,939 --> 01:44:00,878
once the consolidation of the city offices, you could have

1290
01:44:00,899 --> 01:44:04,318
your police department there, everything. It could save money in

1291
01:44:04,358 --> 01:44:08,378
the long run to consolidate all of that together. Um,

1292
01:44:09,379 --> 01:44:14,238
what else? We also would have this room available for

1293
01:44:14,339 --> 01:44:18,398
rental again. If we use the auditorium over there for

1294
01:44:18,419 --> 01:44:21,118
the meetings, this one would now be available for more

1295
01:44:21,379 --> 01:44:25,998
activities. We always need conference space. We always need office

1296
01:44:25,998 --> 01:44:29,498
space. I've personally looked for both of those things. And

1297
01:44:29,498 --> 01:44:32,998
it's a challenge with what we have now available. So

1298
01:44:33,139 --> 01:44:34,718
this could be a win - win. I think we

1299
01:44:34,718 --> 01:44:39,299
could make enough money on renting things. To cover our

1300
01:44:39,480 --> 01:44:42,779
costs as we go along improving everything and end up

1301
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:45,791
with a beautiful Civic center. Thank you.

1302
01:44:55,264 --> 01:44:58,363
Sorry Glenn Sellaway followed by Marlus, Mike Pearson.

1303
01:45:05,279 --> 01:45:09,452
Good evening, Mayor and Council and staff. Uh, my name

1304
01:45:09,452 --> 01:45:13,372
is Glenn Sillaway. I am 25 year resident of Morel

1305
01:45:13,372 --> 01:45:16,012
Bay and I'm the president of the Historical Society of

1306
01:45:16,033 --> 01:45:19,359
Morro Bay. I want to say we started looking at

1307
01:45:19,860 --> 01:45:24,719
the historical society started looking at these buildings seriously, maybe

1308
01:45:24,740 --> 01:45:28,159
six years ago whenever the school district first started talking

1309
01:45:28,159 --> 01:45:32,079
about redeveloping that property. And the report that came out

1310
01:45:32,119 --> 01:45:36,239
of Deloitte that Mr. Cogwin has talked about in his

1311
01:45:36,279 --> 01:45:41,399
paper was in the works then. At that time, we

1312
01:45:41,399 --> 01:45:44,479
were arguing with them that they should preserve the buildings.

1313
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:47,599
And our interests in doing that has, is long set.

1314
01:45:47,639 --> 01:45:52,399
One of the reasons that we developed a historic preservation

1315
01:45:52,420 --> 01:45:57,519
ordinance draft for the city six years ago was to

1316
01:45:57,620 --> 01:46:00,639
partly preserve these buildings. So we're glad, I'm glad we're

1317
01:46:00,679 --> 01:46:03,759
finally getting to it. And I appreciate the effort that

1318
01:46:03,940 --> 01:46:07,519
Mr. Cottern has put into putting that process in paper

1319
01:46:08,100 --> 01:46:11,834
and to the friends for starting it. The fact is

1320
01:46:11,935 --> 01:46:14,154
tonight you are going to make a decision. If you

1321
01:46:14,154 --> 01:46:17,014
think about this as kind of like an environmental, uh,

1322
01:46:17,295 --> 01:46:22,394
review process, you typically have alternatives. You have two alternatives

1323
01:46:22,415 --> 01:46:25,034
in front of you tonight. One is no change. That

1324
01:46:25,034 --> 01:46:27,834
would be no. Give us back our 500, 000 dollars

1325
01:46:28,335 --> 01:46:30,394
The other one is yes. We're going to have a

1326
01:46:30,434 --> 01:46:33,674
change. The thing is that we don't know what that

1327
01:46:33,714 --> 01:46:37,038
change is going to be. There is no real plan.

1328
01:46:37,038 --> 01:46:40,558
We have a working scenario. It's valuable for a framework,

1329
01:46:40,558 --> 01:46:41,678
but you're going to have a lot of work to

1330
01:46:41,678 --> 01:46:45,118
do. Luckily, uh, because of our good news on financing

1331
01:46:45,219 --> 01:46:48,497
tonight, you have some time. You probably are going to

1332
01:46:48,638 --> 01:46:50,777
need quite a bit of it two or three years.

1333
01:46:52,208 --> 01:46:56,924
It wouldn't be surprised. I would like to see several

1334
01:46:57,025 --> 01:47:00,947
things happen in that planning process. The first one would

1335
01:47:00,987 --> 01:47:04,227
be, and I hope this would be fairly simple for

1336
01:47:04,267 --> 01:47:10,147
you to do. Put together some kind of document that

1337
01:47:10,248 --> 01:47:15,908
would show. Set three minutes. We're doing two minutes. So

1338
01:47:15,929 --> 01:47:18,468
I go ahead and finish your comment. Just real quick.

1339
01:47:18,468 --> 01:47:20,468
I document that you could produce that would show us

1340
01:47:20,569 --> 01:47:26,788
the capital expenditures overall. This plan, this project being part

1341
01:47:26,828 --> 01:47:30,468
of many. And let the Public see that as soon

1342
01:47:30,468 --> 01:47:33,308
as possible. Because these are opportunity costs. You're going to

1343
01:47:33,308 --> 01:47:36,228
have to consider. The second thing is you need a

1344
01:47:36,228 --> 01:47:39,748
process going forward that would be acceptable to the community,

1345
01:47:39,748 --> 01:47:42,468
uh, in a neutral way to evaluate as we go

1346
01:47:42,489 --> 01:47:44,868
forward and learn more about it to the point where

1347
01:47:44,908 --> 01:47:47,668
you get to a process or plan that can be

1348
01:47:47,769 --> 01:47:51,108
priced. When you can do that, put it to a

1349
01:47:51,148 --> 01:47:59,683
vote of the people. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Good

1350
01:47:59,723 --> 01:48:05,979
evening. Madam Mayor City Council Member staff. Well, I'm here

1351
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:10,539
as the fiscal conservative because I really care about how

1352
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:14,219
we're going to pay for the property. And while I

1353
01:48:14,259 --> 01:48:17,259
really appreciate and thank Mr. Craig for the work he's

1354
01:48:17,259 --> 01:48:19,659
done to get a good deal with the school district.

1355
01:48:19,659 --> 01:48:22,859
I still have questions about how that deal fits in

1356
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:26,919
with our current budget year and with our future, the

1357
01:48:26,919 --> 01:48:30,459
forecast. Because I know I've seen the budget forecast and

1358
01:48:30,459 --> 01:48:35,579
it's forecasting, um, deficits. And so you've got to find

1359
01:48:35,579 --> 01:48:38,059
a way to pay that money. The other thing I

1360
01:48:38,099 --> 01:48:40,619
want to say is that I don't think the City

1361
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:44,619
has to own this property to control it. And if

1362
01:48:44,659 --> 01:48:50,379
you think about it, um, historic preservation ordinance application goes

1363
01:48:50,419 --> 01:48:53,979
through. It'll be preserved. And that's going to limit the

1364
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:56,539
amount of development and what kind of development can be

1365
01:48:56,579 --> 01:48:58,699
done there because that property, and I'd like to know

1366
01:48:58,739 --> 01:49:01,019
what the boundaries of that are so that we know

1367
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:04,299
how much more land is available for housing and what

1368
01:49:04,339 --> 01:49:08,019
the value of that property is. Because it's going to

1369
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:13,899
decline once we do, uh, get that designation. And it

1370
01:49:13,899 --> 01:49:16,739
seems to me that if we worked with the, if

1371
01:49:16,739 --> 01:49:21,032
we let the school district. Just keep the property, they

1372
01:49:21,032 --> 01:49:23,432
run the risk of finding that developer that you have

1373
01:49:23,432 --> 01:49:25,992
to work with because they're still going to be interested

1374
01:49:26,093 --> 01:49:28,712
in selling it. And you're still in control because you

1375
01:49:28,733 --> 01:49:32,792
control zoning. You control the entitlement process. You control the

1376
01:49:32,893 --> 01:49:35,512
final decision of what will go there. And it would

1377
01:49:35,512 --> 01:49:38,392
be to me, it would make sense because they're accepting

1378
01:49:38,432 --> 01:49:40,712
the risk because you can't really move forward until you

1379
01:49:40,712 --> 01:49:44,072
have that, uh, partner. So I do want to thank

1380
01:49:44,093 --> 01:49:46,712
everybody who works so hard on the report and the

1381
01:49:46,752 --> 01:49:48,952
staff and I'm grateful to have it. And thank you

1382
01:49:48,952 --> 01:49:53,984
very much. I have no more speaker slips, public comment

1383
01:49:54,245 --> 01:50:01,342
is open on this item. Please come forward. Line up

1384
01:50:01,382 --> 01:50:03,938
if you need to. Or whatever we can do to

1385
01:50:03,978 --> 01:50:07,458
move it. Good evening, distinguished council staff. Shirley Frazier 30

1386
01:50:07,498 --> 01:50:10,775
year resident. I guess the way I'm seeing it as

1387
01:50:10,815 --> 01:50:14,055
we're getting this property, which is a valuable piece that's

1388
01:50:14,055 --> 01:50:17,575
right in the middle of town, um, for almost half

1389
01:50:17,615 --> 01:50:20,775
the cost. And if we go ahead and acquire this,

1390
01:50:20,775 --> 01:50:23,975
I believe there precludes us in the future from selling

1391
01:50:23,996 --> 01:50:26,915
this property and even making a profit on it, um,

1392
01:50:27,036 --> 01:50:29,815
to a developer. We hold the ultimate control on it

1393
01:50:29,916 --> 01:50:32,215
that way. Um, more so than what we could do

1394
01:50:32,396 --> 01:50:36,375
even with a historic designation, which may preclude development to

1395
01:50:36,556 --> 01:50:39,395
one or two buildings, but not the entire site. And

1396
01:50:39,395 --> 01:50:41,815
then the site that the city seems, um, again, a

1397
01:50:41,815 --> 01:50:45,095
lot of the residents seem very, um, concerned about keeping

1398
01:50:45,516 --> 01:50:48,695
the fields and things could easily be developed away. So

1399
01:50:48,796 --> 01:50:51,735
it seems like the ultimate control, um, would lie with

1400
01:50:51,735 --> 01:50:54,855
us in purchasing it, even though money is tight for

1401
01:50:54,876 --> 01:50:57,735
everyone these days, I believe, um, but we're getting absolutely

1402
01:50:58,156 --> 01:51:04,055
amazing favorable financial terms for this. And even buying it

1403
01:51:04,076 --> 01:51:05,895
at a discount. So I would just ask you to

1404
01:51:05,996 --> 01:51:11,895
consider that. And perhaps the, again, I understand fiduciary responsibilities

1405
01:51:12,796 --> 01:51:17,895
and being conservative financially. But the total amount of renovations

1406
01:51:17,935 --> 01:51:21,735
seems like really a lot, again, considering what is in

1407
01:51:21,996 --> 01:51:24,775
there already and what need to be upgraded. So maybe

1408
01:51:24,775 --> 01:51:27,095
there is a compromise there too. So you have a

1409
01:51:27,095 --> 01:51:29,175
lot to think about, but I think it is a,

1410
01:51:29,175 --> 01:51:31,895
um, potentially a very good deal. And we're under the

1411
01:51:31,895 --> 01:51:34,535
most favorable terms for it. So thank you for your

1412
01:51:34,636 --> 01:51:36,775
diligence and careful consideration.

1413
01:51:50,150 --> 01:51:54,089
Good evening council staff and residence in Mor Bay. My

1414
01:51:54,089 --> 01:51:57,329
name is Mike Gerson candidate for Mor Obesi City Council.

1415
01:52:00,539 --> 01:52:02,998
I had a really hard time wrapping my head around

1416
01:52:03,019 --> 01:52:07,259
this deal financially. At first. You know, I like to

1417
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:11,499
see a spreadsheet with data and, uh, return on investment

1418
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:14,859
at the bottom and all that stuff. And I really

1419
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,499
wanted to get behind the project. So I picked up

1420
01:52:17,499 --> 01:52:20,539
the phone and started calling other members of the community.

1421
01:52:21,837 --> 01:52:27,576
And between that and the favorable financing that Mr. Craig

1422
01:52:27,597 --> 01:52:30,536
has presented to us tonight, I do see a path

1423
01:52:30,717 --> 01:52:35,845
for making the deal work with minimal impact. To our

1424
01:52:35,866 --> 01:52:39,365
city's financial reserves. I want to say that my vision

1425
01:52:39,946 --> 01:52:44,385
for the Moro Elementary property is to lean into, um,

1426
01:52:44,506 --> 01:52:47,845
preserving the open space and making it a great public

1427
01:52:47,946 --> 01:52:51,285
park. I'd love to see this City hold a special

1428
01:52:51,325 --> 01:52:54,645
meeting specifically to ask the community what they want that

1429
01:52:54,826 --> 01:53:02,956
space to become. And personally, I envision a dog park

1430
01:53:02,956 --> 01:53:07,020
there. And this is always too low for me. I

1431
01:53:07,121 --> 01:53:11,420
envision like a dog park preserving the fields. Um, and

1432
01:53:11,761 --> 01:53:15,660
even like a walkway that connects the community center to

1433
01:53:15,700 --> 01:53:20,460
the new city hall and creating, uh, civic plaza, something,

1434
01:53:20,460 --> 01:53:23,420
I mean, like look at what a task it arrows

1435
01:53:23,420 --> 01:53:29,420
done with their City Hall. It's amazing. Um, I don't

1436
01:53:29,460 --> 01:53:32,060
believe that sports fields are where the housing belongs. There's

1437
01:53:32,081 --> 01:53:36,380
already two potential housing opportunities. Um, we've talked about the

1438
01:53:36,801 --> 01:53:41,240
northern parcel at the elementary school for workforce housing. And

1439
01:53:41,281 --> 01:53:45,420
if City Hall relocates, uh, using the existing City Hall

1440
01:53:45,460 --> 01:53:50,620
property for senior housing. And between those and the favorable

1441
01:53:50,801 --> 01:53:53,420
financing, um, I think we can really make this happen.

1442
01:53:55,333 --> 01:53:55,952
Thank you very much.

1443
01:54:08,067 --> 01:54:12,446
Things always ridiculously high. Okay. All right. Well, you must

1444
01:54:12,446 --> 01:54:15,246
have you know me. I'm DRC Castro. I'm a resident

1445
01:54:15,267 --> 01:54:18,686
here in Morro Bay. I live here. I work here.

1446
01:54:18,686 --> 01:54:20,686
I raise my four kids here and I love living

1447
01:54:20,726 --> 01:54:23,566
here. Um, and I'm here to talk on behalf of

1448
01:54:23,747 --> 01:54:26,046
Friends of Mor Elementary, which you all know I belong

1449
01:54:26,046 --> 01:54:29,646
to. We encourage the City to approve the purchase and

1450
01:54:29,686 --> 01:54:33,246
sale agreement of the Mora Elementary site. We believe it

1451
01:54:33,267 --> 01:54:35,886
is in the city's best interest to maintain control of

1452
01:54:35,987 --> 01:54:38,286
such an important piece of land that sits at the

1453
01:54:38,326 --> 01:54:42,046
heart of the community. Converting the use of the 1936

1454
01:54:42,067 --> 01:54:45,246
building into a city hall addresses the current City Hall

1455
01:54:45,286 --> 01:54:49,406
building that needs additional space and repair. The savings to

1456
01:54:49,507 --> 01:54:52,926
Retrofit Moral Elementary versus building a new City Hall alone

1457
01:54:53,027 --> 01:54:55,905
could be worth acquiring the site. I would like to

1458
01:54:55,945 --> 01:54:59,265
thank the City for their extensive due diligence, the report

1459
01:54:59,286 --> 01:55:04,065
tonight and publicly posting the reports. Um, along with the

1460
01:55:04,086 --> 01:55:06,785
tours of the site. I feel like the due diligence

1461
01:55:06,806 --> 01:55:12,785
reports establishes confidence in the buildings conditions. Um, Moreau Elementary

1462
01:55:12,825 --> 01:55:17,973
was first built. 1936 issue of the sun stated one

1463
01:55:18,013 --> 01:55:22,133
of my favorite quotes. Citizens will pride themselves and their

1464
01:55:22,154 --> 01:55:25,733
foresight. This site is celebrating 90 years of serving the

1465
01:55:25,773 --> 01:55:28,693
community in November. And I have no doubt it can

1466
01:55:28,733 --> 01:55:31,973
serve our community for the next 90 as well. Thank

1467
01:55:32,013 --> 01:55:36,053
you, council, for your consideration in supporting this valuable purchase.

1468
01:55:36,053 --> 01:55:38,453
And we urge you to proceed in escrow. So thank

1469
01:55:38,453 --> 01:55:44,202
you. Anyone else for Public Common on this item?

1470
01:55:51,744 --> 01:55:55,083
I'll be fast. Um, same with Taurus. I'm here to

1471
01:55:56,864 --> 01:56:00,603
give my support for 8A and say thank you to

1472
01:56:00,624 --> 01:56:03,723
everybody who's worked on this for so long. I've been

1473
01:56:03,984 --> 01:56:07,163
paying attention. Um, for quite a while. And it has

1474
01:56:07,203 --> 01:56:10,763
been a lot of work. And I think the, many

1475
01:56:10,763 --> 01:56:14,043
people in the community that appreciate it. I agree with

1476
01:56:14,064 --> 01:56:17,483
many people that it's a once in a lifetime opportunity

1477
01:56:17,504 --> 01:56:21,163
for a city, especially when you separate. I know right

1478
01:56:21,203 --> 01:56:23,723
now a lot of people are putting together the moving

1479
01:56:23,763 --> 01:56:26,203
of City Hall and the property. But when the decision

1480
01:56:26,203 --> 01:56:29,083
is just about the property, it's really a no brainer.

1481
01:56:29,083 --> 01:56:31,323
I mean, if you bought it one day, the next

1482
01:56:31,323 --> 01:56:34,903
day the city already has a lot more value. Um,

1483
01:56:35,584 --> 01:56:39,323
when you consider the value of that property in that.

1484
01:56:39,323 --> 01:56:43,563
So thank you very much. That's it. Yeah. Mall for

1485
01:56:43,563 --> 01:56:43,963
it. Thank you.

1486
01:56:59,144 --> 01:57:04,974
Hello counsel staff. May I request three minutes since we're

1487
01:57:04,974 --> 01:57:08,780
doing so well? Okay. I'm Judy setting a very grateful

1488
01:57:09,441 --> 01:57:13,472
59 year resident of Moral Bay. It is encouraging to

1489
01:57:13,512 --> 01:57:17,472
see the amount of community participation, the Moral L site

1490
01:57:17,493 --> 01:57:21,898
acquisition is generating. The very thought of acquiring our very

1491
01:57:21,898 --> 01:57:27,418
own community civic center is exciting, inspiring and symbolizes and

1492
01:57:27,439 --> 01:57:31,018
investment in the growth, unity and future of our community.

1493
01:57:32,266 --> 01:57:35,365
I believe in each of you. And your ability to

1494
01:57:35,405 --> 01:57:40,574
make this sound real estate venture happen. The historic site

1495
01:57:40,614 --> 01:57:43,781
is valuable. I also believe in the value of remaining

1496
01:57:44,042 --> 01:57:47,297
debt - free. We have the means to make this

1497
01:57:47,398 --> 01:57:51,377
purchase independently while it was generous of the school district

1498
01:57:51,417 --> 01:57:55,377
to offer five years of salary financing. We can essentially

1499
01:57:55,958 --> 01:57:59,377
lend the money to ourselves and preserve the interest savings

1500
01:57:59,377 --> 01:58:02,766
for a rainy day. Moving our library has been of

1501
01:58:02,787 --> 01:58:07,086
concern. I personally would like to keep the library land

1502
01:58:07,347 --> 01:58:12,054
and mural intact. I need to say that I'm speaking

1503
01:58:12,555 --> 01:58:18,051
independently of friends of moral and mentary. Regarding housing after

1504
01:58:18,091 --> 01:58:22,931
discussions with a successful retired developer, I have changed my

1505
01:58:23,272 --> 01:58:27,491
stand. We suggested that the he suggested that the entire

1506
01:58:27,992 --> 01:58:33,089
site be dedicated to community service. As that would create

1507
01:58:33,190 --> 01:58:37,649
a fair scenario. I now believe that new housing development

1508
01:58:37,670 --> 01:58:41,741
can be located on other city - owned properties. To

1509
01:58:41,781 --> 01:58:46,381
maintain control of building codes, the city should consider 99

1510
01:58:46,722 --> 01:58:50,381
- year leases for these future housing properties. It has

1511
01:58:50,381 --> 01:58:55,101
been said that many community members are basing this purchase

1512
01:58:55,101 --> 01:59:02,663
decision on emotions. They are correct. We love this historic

1513
01:59:02,703 --> 01:59:04,503
site and we will go to the ends of the

1514
01:59:04,543 --> 01:59:07,303
earth to keep it as our own. Thank you to

1515
01:59:07,484 --> 01:59:10,663
everyone who has worked to move this valuable project forward

1516
01:59:11,804 --> 01:59:14,583
and a special thanks to Mr. Cauldron for his hard

1517
01:59:14,623 --> 01:59:17,623
work. And if you did put in time that gave

1518
01:59:17,663 --> 01:59:20,803
us the benefit of a break in price, thank you

1519
01:59:20,844 --> 01:59:21,143
so much.

1520
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:39,979
Good evening. Um, Debbie High Phil. I've lived here 25

1521
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:43,549
years. Um, I think this land is a good deal.

1522
01:59:44,184 --> 01:59:48,563
I think we've got lots of options. If worst case

1523
01:59:48,584 --> 01:59:56,031
scenarios happen, um, we're getting it below cost. And we

1524
01:59:56,031 --> 01:59:59,551
can always sell if, you know, it was the worst

1525
01:59:59,591 --> 02:00:03,176
case scenario. I would like to also talk about the

1526
02:00:03,357 --> 02:00:07,210
programs that are presently at the site. It is the

1527
02:00:07,311 --> 02:00:12,890
only Montessori that is a public Montessori, which in the

1528
02:00:12,991 --> 02:00:19,212
whole county. That I'm aware of. And as an education

1529
02:00:19,553 --> 02:00:22,492
who has gone through the monastery training as well as

1530
02:00:22,513 --> 02:00:27,452
Public School, it's exceptional. And I just would really love

1531
02:00:27,473 --> 02:00:31,132
to see the programs that are there right now. Stay

1532
02:00:31,132 --> 02:00:34,732
there. And I definitely would like to see that beautiful

1533
02:00:35,313 --> 02:00:39,212
field preserved, at least for the most part, because it's

1534
02:00:39,393 --> 02:00:40,572
well used. Thank you.

1535
02:00:53,786 --> 02:00:58,028
I'll talk fast. Well, we think about buying, when we

1536
02:00:58,028 --> 02:01:00,948
think about proceeding with buying the property, we should ask

1537
02:01:01,209 --> 02:01:05,348
ourselves the questions. What consequences are there from not buying

1538
02:01:05,388 --> 02:01:11,188
the property? For instance, replace our only, how much would

1539
02:01:11,228 --> 02:01:14,388
it cost to replace our only soccer fields in Morro

1540
02:01:14,388 --> 02:01:21,941
Bay. What is the cost of repairing deferred maintenance mentioned

1541
02:01:22,042 --> 02:01:24,661
in the due diligence report on the current City Hall

1542
02:01:25,482 --> 02:01:31,164
or to create additional space for. Outgrown city offices and

1543
02:01:31,164 --> 02:01:34,684
departments? What is the cost of a housing developer building

1544
02:01:35,025 --> 02:01:41,598
high density housing in which state overrides local. Decisions on

1545
02:01:41,598 --> 02:01:48,558
development in which 20 percent of wave parking requirements? What

1546
02:01:48,739 --> 02:01:51,758
is the cost of the strain of Public Services such

1547
02:01:51,758 --> 02:01:59,039
as fire and police. Street congestion and parking nightmare. What

1548
02:01:59,060 --> 02:02:04,559
is the cost of losing tuition fee from the Montessori

1549
02:02:04,599 --> 02:02:09,439
School that serves approximately 60 families? So tonight I ask

1550
02:02:09,479 --> 02:02:14,786
you. To please approve moving forward with this purchase. Thank

1551
02:02:14,786 --> 02:02:15,186
you very much.

1552
02:02:24,726 --> 02:02:28,431
Anyone else for Public comment on this item. Ray, are

1553
02:02:28,431 --> 02:02:32,380
there any raised hands in the queue. Yes, sir. Raised

1554
02:02:32,420 --> 02:02:36,296
hands in the queue. Let's see, we have Jamie Motley.

1555
02:02:36,296 --> 02:02:36,376
Go ahead.

1556
02:02:46,343 --> 02:02:51,286
Hello. Um. I'm actually Jamie Motley's husband. This is Nicholas

1557
02:02:51,307 --> 02:02:56,346
Cueva. Resident of Morro Bay, father of a student at

1558
02:02:56,447 --> 02:03:01,381
the Montessori School there. And hopefully a father of multiple

1559
02:03:01,402 --> 02:03:05,061
more children that go there. So we support the City

1560
02:03:05,242 --> 02:03:08,101
purchasing the property and we think it's important for the

1561
02:03:08,101 --> 02:03:11,697
community as a historical site. For City offices for the

1562
02:03:11,697 --> 02:03:16,237
school and for the sports fields. Um, thank you very

1563
02:03:16,277 --> 02:03:20,295
much for your time. And I second that Jamie Motley,

1564
02:03:20,295 --> 02:03:27,088
thank you so much. Okay. We have another person under

1565
02:03:27,128 --> 02:03:37,117
the name Zoom user. Go ahead. Hello. My name

1566
02:03:37,117 --> 02:03:41,197
is Tondi Bansi Stapleton and I am a longtime resident.

1567
02:03:41,654 --> 02:03:45,793
Of Morbe currently raising my three children here. And I

1568
02:03:45,894 --> 02:03:49,233
very much want to think City Council for recognizing the

1569
02:03:49,254 --> 02:03:53,992
community's desire to keep in utilize this property. I strongly

1570
02:03:54,173 --> 02:03:57,512
support the City acquiring the property. I feel it's important

1571
02:03:57,853 --> 02:04:01,272
as a historical site and that it would be great

1572
02:04:01,312 --> 02:04:04,712
for city offices. Um, I would love to see the

1573
02:04:04,813 --> 02:04:07,832
sports fields continue to be available for use by our

1574
02:04:07,832 --> 02:04:10,793
community. And for the school to remain there as well.

1575
02:04:11,780 --> 02:04:14,719
Um, please continue to move forward with the purchase. Thank

1576
02:04:14,719 --> 02:04:19,424
you. There are no more raised hands in the queue.

1577
02:04:20,364 --> 02:04:25,347
Thank you, right. Anyone else before Close Public comment. Seeing

1578
02:04:25,387 --> 02:04:28,067
none, our close public comment and bring it back to

1579
02:04:28,408 --> 02:04:31,507
council, Mr. Kreg, is there anything you want to address

1580
02:04:31,848 --> 02:04:39,104
from Public comment. Either one. I don't believe so. We'll

1581
02:04:39,144 --> 02:04:42,704
answer any questions. Um, so before we move into deliberations,

1582
02:04:42,704 --> 02:04:46,544
I'll see if the other questions from council. Council Member

1583
02:04:46,544 --> 02:04:51,512
Edwards. Yes. Thank you, Mayor. If I may, for Mr.

1584
02:04:51,853 --> 02:04:56,472
Singwald, um, can you please just clarify that we don't

1585
02:04:56,653 --> 02:04:59,672
need to own the property in order to control it

1586
02:05:00,013 --> 02:05:02,952
with regard to zoning land use, et cetera. Thank you.

1587
02:05:07,528 --> 02:05:10,307
So good evening, Mayor Council. I'm Ehrliching Wald, community development

1588
02:05:10,307 --> 02:05:14,986
director, study of Mor Bay. So if the city does

1589
02:05:15,026 --> 02:05:20,426
not purchase the property, a private developer, um, seeking to

1590
02:05:20,447 --> 02:05:25,386
develop the property and or, um, potentially demolished or significantly

1591
02:05:25,567 --> 02:05:29,386
alter. The schoolhouse building, um, would have to obtain a

1592
02:05:29,567 --> 02:05:33,365
coastal development permit. And very likely a conditional use permit

1593
02:05:33,946 --> 02:05:38,563
from the City of Morro Bay. Those entitlements would trigger

1594
02:05:38,744 --> 02:05:41,987
environmental review. Under the California of our reminder quality Act.

1595
02:05:43,688 --> 02:05:47,107
Or CEQA. One of the questions that CEQA asks is

1596
02:05:47,208 --> 02:05:52,307
whether the proposed development would impact a historic resource on

1597
02:05:52,347 --> 02:05:56,240
a state or federal registry. Or a resource that is

1598
02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:59,722
eligible for listing as a historic resource. We know from

1599
02:05:59,762 --> 02:06:03,722
the chattel report that the schoolhouse is eligible for listing.

1600
02:06:04,708 --> 02:06:09,167
Therefore, under SEQA, this development would require an environmental impact

1601
02:06:09,348 --> 02:06:14,027
report. The planning commission would be the review authority, um,

1602
02:06:14,308 --> 02:06:19,007
to evaluate and review a discretionary coastal development permit and

1603
02:06:19,007 --> 02:06:22,962
also to certify the environmental impact report. Um, and then

1604
02:06:22,962 --> 02:06:25,522
of course the Planning Commission's decision will be appealable to

1605
02:06:26,263 --> 02:06:33,484
the City Council. Since, um, in this scenario, uh, EIR

1606
02:06:33,665 --> 02:06:39,644
would be required in order for the City to approve

1607
02:06:39,665 --> 02:06:43,724
a development project that would impact a historic resource or

1608
02:06:43,724 --> 02:06:48,236
resource eligible for listing as an eligible for listing. Would

1609
02:06:48,276 --> 02:06:51,756
require the City, again, the planning commission or the council

1610
02:06:51,777 --> 02:06:56,616
on appeal to make findings overwriting consideration that the, uh,

1611
02:06:56,657 --> 02:07:01,276
benefits of the project outweigh the historic significance of the

1612
02:07:01,457 --> 02:07:04,556
schoolhouse building. So that's the long wind and answer. There's

1613
02:07:04,556 --> 02:07:10,236
short answer is, um, there would be a process available.

1614
02:07:12,495 --> 02:07:18,394
For potentially for, um, demolition or altering the Schoolhouse building,

1615
02:07:18,394 --> 02:07:19,834
but it would require an EIR. And it would be

1616
02:07:19,834 --> 02:07:21,754
up to the city would have full discretion of that

1617
02:07:21,775 --> 02:07:31,684
process. Thank you, Mr. Singwald. Um, if I

1618
02:07:31,785 --> 02:07:38,084
may, uh, get some clarification from Mr. Caudran. We're, we're

1619
02:07:38,105 --> 02:07:42,804
having multiple, uh, pieces of property and parcels, uh, in

1620
02:07:42,825 --> 02:07:47,764
this working scenario equation, uh, with regard to the housing

1621
02:07:48,345 --> 02:07:56,244
component mentioned, even there was mentioned, uh, the library parcel.

1622
02:07:56,284 --> 02:08:00,724
I am hearing this evening that there is, uh, both

1623
02:08:00,825 --> 02:08:04,324
through correspondence and this evening there is concern, obviously over

1624
02:08:04,345 --> 02:08:07,604
the library and being mentioned in the report. Although I

1625
02:08:07,625 --> 02:08:11,924
understand why it was in terms of available parcels that

1626
02:08:11,964 --> 02:08:16,564
we own. But I think if you could just give

1627
02:08:16,825 --> 02:08:24,324
clarification more to as where the housing, the 100 to

1628
02:08:24,585 --> 02:08:29,044
200 units that were mentioned in the scenario, um, could

1629
02:08:29,785 --> 02:08:35,751
be placed. That might be helpful. Sure. And, uh, the

1630
02:08:35,852 --> 02:08:40,391
process did not involve a site planning exercise to fully

1631
02:08:40,412 --> 02:08:43,991
program the property in terms of, um, how many units

1632
02:08:44,732 --> 02:08:49,911
could be developed in any particular location? Um, however, based

1633
02:08:49,911 --> 02:08:52,871
on the zoning and the acreage, um, the number of

1634
02:08:52,972 --> 02:08:58,951
units, uh, included in the study is allowable. Um, the

1635
02:08:59,212 --> 02:09:02,711
idea of using the City Hall property and then the

1636
02:09:02,732 --> 02:09:07,191
library property is mentioned as well. Um, really came out

1637
02:09:07,292 --> 02:09:12,311
of the community meetings. And I think that, um, after

1638
02:09:14,252 --> 02:09:17,111
the, in the second community, meaning what we proposed were

1639
02:09:17,932 --> 02:09:23,191
alternatives that showed, um, different levels of preservation of the

1640
02:09:23,212 --> 02:09:27,651
sports fields because the community had expressed that concern. And

1641
02:09:27,651 --> 02:09:31,191
then, um, you'll notice that the final report doesn't really

1642
02:09:32,972 --> 02:09:36,231
hazard a guess as to, it doesn't suggest exactly where

1643
02:09:36,252 --> 02:09:39,271
those units should go or how much of the fields

1644
02:09:39,692 --> 02:09:44,451
would or would not be preserved. Um, but the, um,

1645
02:09:45,452 --> 02:09:49,991
ability to develop 200 units on the moral elementary property

1646
02:09:50,172 --> 02:09:54,451
and on the City Hall site would necessitate, you know,

1647
02:09:54,652 --> 02:09:58,711
would make less sports fields, less open space available in

1648
02:09:58,751 --> 02:10:01,911
the future. That space would be needed for those 200

1649
02:10:01,932 --> 02:10:05,751
units. And so, um, there would have to be other

1650
02:10:05,932 --> 02:10:14,065
properties where those units would be located. And please let

1651
02:10:14,105 --> 02:10:16,145
me know if that answers your question or if I

1652
02:10:16,145 --> 02:10:21,265
can provide. No, it does. Thank you, Mr. Caudran, because

1653
02:10:22,086 --> 02:10:26,785
I think that, uh, it speaks to just one concern

1654
02:10:26,966 --> 02:10:30,305
that I'm having this evening, um, that I all get

1655
02:10:30,305 --> 02:10:38,145
to. Also, uh, City manager Craig really appreciate you giving

1656
02:10:38,486 --> 02:10:43,005
us this information tonight. It's a lot to digest. Um,

1657
02:10:43,005 --> 02:10:46,225
I have to say, um, and I am concerned how

1658
02:10:46,566 --> 02:10:51,505
this or any loan, um, that pertains to a project

1659
02:10:51,526 --> 02:10:54,705
of any kind that has not been put into our

1660
02:10:55,126 --> 02:11:00,599
fiscal 26, 27 budget. Would at all or how it

1661
02:11:00,599 --> 02:11:05,719
would affect us moving forward with our other, um, projects

1662
02:11:05,759 --> 02:11:07,639
and things that we have going on in the city

1663
02:11:07,820 --> 02:11:10,535
of which is a lot. Um, but I want to

1664
02:11:10,575 --> 02:11:12,695
say that that's a, that seems to be a much

1665
02:11:12,735 --> 02:11:17,095
more favorable, um, idea than some that I've heard floating

1666
02:11:17,095 --> 02:11:20,295
out there. Um, but I'll speak to that in a

1667
02:11:20,295 --> 02:11:23,975
second. Um, just to clarification, I, I know we are

1668
02:11:23,996 --> 02:11:29,955
saying that this would be uniting our, our, our, um,

1669
02:11:30,236 --> 02:11:33,335
our departments, but I think somebody mentioned, and I may

1670
02:11:33,375 --> 02:11:35,975
have heard it wrong. So I apologize. Was the police

1671
02:11:36,156 --> 02:11:39,735
department mentioned because I did not believe that was something

1672
02:11:39,836 --> 02:11:49,584
that would fit into this, um, frame. Counselor. That was

1673
02:11:49,584 --> 02:11:52,864
not considered in our, uh, scenario under which we asked

1674
02:11:52,965 --> 02:11:56,384
just for if the possible, um, Departments that are currently

1675
02:11:56,565 --> 02:11:59,884
in City Hall and the annex building next door, uh,

1676
02:12:00,405 --> 02:12:04,544
HR that is temporary located in the Chamber of Commerce

1677
02:12:04,584 --> 02:12:08,384
building and visit Mor Bay Building. That is not include

1678
02:12:08,565 --> 02:12:13,664
any movement of the, um, recreation division, uh, the police

1679
02:12:13,845 --> 02:12:16,864
department or the fire department staff or the Harbor Department

1680
02:12:16,904 --> 02:12:21,424
staff. All other staff. Or the, uh, maintenance division that's

1681
02:12:21,424 --> 02:12:25,504
currently in the courtyard down on 41. So it's only

1682
02:12:25,525 --> 02:12:27,824
City Hall staff that are located in the main buildings

1683
02:12:27,864 --> 02:12:31,120
of City Hall and environs around there. I hope that

1684
02:12:31,120 --> 02:12:35,743
makes sense. It does. I appreciate clarification because I think

1685
02:12:35,844 --> 02:12:41,903
this is being framed as it's all under one roof.

1686
02:12:41,903 --> 02:12:44,463
And that's not really the case in my opinion. So

1687
02:12:44,564 --> 02:12:47,663
I just wanted to have that clarify. Um, thank you.

1688
02:12:47,764 --> 02:12:55,290
That's, that's my questions for now. Questions. I'm just Councilmember

1689
02:12:55,311 --> 02:13:05,176
Lefay. No more questions. Um. We will begin comments and

1690
02:13:05,216 --> 02:13:07,796
deliberation. I'm going to just start off with a few

1691
02:13:07,917 --> 02:13:16,286
couple things. Difficult to have capital expenditures. Scenario when we

1692
02:13:16,286 --> 02:13:19,406
don't know yet what the plan is. I think as

1693
02:13:19,446 --> 02:13:23,646
far as that goes for me, I'm not interested in

1694
02:13:23,747 --> 02:13:27,726
the library building being any part of change in use

1695
02:13:27,747 --> 02:13:31,166
there and being factored in. What I would consider is

1696
02:13:32,787 --> 02:13:36,766
the, um, modular that our fire department used to be

1697
02:13:36,806 --> 02:13:40,106
housed in temporarily while we built our fire station, um,

1698
02:13:40,106 --> 02:13:43,166
that we've just recently moved one of our departments into

1699
02:13:43,347 --> 02:13:46,526
because we've outgrown the space at City Hall as a

1700
02:13:46,526 --> 02:13:51,407
potential piece of the element. And potentially, maybe you take

1701
02:13:51,407 --> 02:13:53,647
a few parking spots or something from that side of

1702
02:13:53,687 --> 02:13:56,607
the library. That would be about the extent of a

1703
02:13:56,647 --> 02:13:59,787
library impact for me personally that I would see. But

1704
02:13:59,908 --> 02:14:04,287
that could, um, open up an opportunity for some housing

1705
02:14:04,308 --> 02:14:07,387
structures there too. We didn't really factor that in. But

1706
02:14:07,387 --> 02:14:10,527
I look at it as a district kind of in

1707
02:14:10,567 --> 02:14:12,847
that whole area and what do we own and what

1708
02:14:12,887 --> 02:14:17,527
can we fit in? That being said, um, funding. I

1709
02:14:17,527 --> 02:14:22,927
see revenue stream potential from the teen center, which is

1710
02:14:23,108 --> 02:14:25,967
for sale. And I believe we're getting our commercial realtor

1711
02:14:25,988 --> 02:14:29,407
here shortly that'll be looking at our city properties. That

1712
02:14:29,407 --> 02:14:31,727
piece of property where the modular is from the old

1713
02:14:31,748 --> 02:14:36,767
fire station that's currently housing a few business, the chambered

1714
02:14:36,807 --> 02:14:39,647
a few things. Also our market street property. We've been

1715
02:14:39,647 --> 02:14:41,887
waiting for the waterfront master plan to move into its

1716
02:14:41,887 --> 02:14:45,327
final phases. Um, and kind of paused that, but there's

1717
02:14:45,367 --> 02:14:47,567
an opportunity to move forward with the sale of that.

1718
02:14:47,567 --> 02:14:50,767
So if you parlay those together, um, we get pretty

1719
02:14:50,807 --> 02:14:56,663
close to that purchase price. I think having it out

1720
02:14:56,684 --> 02:15:00,023
three years allows us to have an opportunity to look

1721
02:15:00,204 --> 02:15:04,583
at other revenue streams. If the potential grants, we can

1722
02:15:04,583 --> 02:15:08,263
apply for. I personally have zero desire to touch our

1723
02:15:08,284 --> 02:15:12,023
reserves at all, um, as someone said, we have to

1724
02:15:12,023 --> 02:15:14,263
be diligent about what the weather could be this year

1725
02:15:14,764 --> 02:15:17,943
with the potential El Nino and what that could incur.

1726
02:15:19,852 --> 02:15:27,191
So, so the, I see this project as phases, to

1727
02:15:27,191 --> 02:15:31,111
council member Edwards comment about the police department. It was

1728
02:15:31,132 --> 02:15:33,751
not factored in nor was the maintenance or the other

1729
02:15:33,772 --> 02:15:36,791
departments, but I do see the potential on a 10

1730
02:15:36,831 --> 02:15:40,231
acre site to have a future in a phase where

1731
02:15:40,572 --> 02:15:43,591
there might be the police department located, relocated out of

1732
02:15:43,631 --> 02:15:46,551
that little tiny building they're in that they're bursting at

1733
02:15:46,551 --> 02:15:48,951
the seams also. But I think that this is a

1734
02:15:49,132 --> 02:15:52,551
phased approach to what all those things will be with

1735
02:15:52,572 --> 02:15:57,351
community input and hopefully, you know, maybe a blue ribbon

1736
02:15:57,391 --> 02:16:02,451
committee or something put together with, um. Semi - professional,

1737
02:16:02,451 --> 02:16:05,871
professional people who, who have experience in these things, um,

1738
02:16:06,072 --> 02:16:09,651
that can, can shed some light on how to move

1739
02:16:09,651 --> 02:16:14,615
that project forward with some scenarios for community use. This

1740
02:16:14,636 --> 02:16:18,215
is not, and correct me if I'm saying it wrong,

1741
02:16:18,236 --> 02:16:20,615
Mr. Craig, this is not taking any money from any

1742
02:16:20,716 --> 02:16:23,815
capital projects whatsoever that we have currently funded. I know

1743
02:16:23,815 --> 02:16:26,695
we have approximately four million dollars going to streets. It's

1744
02:16:26,735 --> 02:16:32,135
still going to streets. This doesn't detract from that as

1745
02:16:32,135 --> 02:16:36,275
far as I'm concerned. It might not add funding, but

1746
02:16:36,275 --> 02:16:40,135
this is, um, is spread out at two percent, which

1747
02:16:40,135 --> 02:16:42,455
is pretty favorable. So I'm going to stop right there

1748
02:16:42,556 --> 02:16:45,735
and let my colleagues, um, have their comments and then

1749
02:16:45,735 --> 02:16:47,815
I'll finish up later and I'll start down on my

1750
02:16:47,815 --> 02:16:54,838
right with council member Lefe. Yes. Uh, thank you Mayor.

1751
02:16:54,838 --> 02:16:56,918
You know, this is a pretty simple decision for me.

1752
02:16:56,918 --> 02:17:00,918
I started working on this with Council Member Landrom about

1753
02:17:00,918 --> 02:17:04,038
a year and a half ago. We're on the subcommittee.

1754
02:17:04,038 --> 02:17:08,038
And we've met with developers. We've met wood. People self

1755
02:17:08,078 --> 02:17:11,562
help. Um, I'm looking at it as a purchase of

1756
02:17:11,743 --> 02:17:16,297
5. 3 million dollars period right now. And with the

1757
02:17:16,318 --> 02:17:20,257
favorable financing, um, this is a no brainer. I mean,

1758
02:17:20,257 --> 02:17:23,977
this is an opportunity, a legacy that we would be

1759
02:17:24,558 --> 02:17:27,817
foolish to pass up as far as I'm concerned. I

1760
02:17:27,857 --> 02:17:30,457
bought, you know, probably eight pieces of property here in

1761
02:17:30,497 --> 02:17:34,689
Moral Bay. And I buy my properties based on really

1762
02:17:34,729 --> 02:17:37,529
what the universe tells me on that particular site. I

1763
02:17:37,529 --> 02:17:40,369
know you're probably being a little weird, but I've walked

1764
02:17:40,630 --> 02:17:43,249
that site many times. And the first time I did

1765
02:17:43,350 --> 02:17:45,769
walk on it, which was just a year and a

1766
02:17:45,769 --> 02:17:48,609
half ago, it just had a special meaning, a special

1767
02:17:48,609 --> 02:17:52,209
place. And that's what we could achieve here. We have

1768
02:17:52,249 --> 02:17:55,249
a blank sheet of paper. Weather City Hall moves in

1769
02:17:55,249 --> 02:17:57,629
there or not. Um, I'm not going to tell you

1770
02:17:57,629 --> 02:18:02,209
that it's going to happen. I think the, um, due

1771
02:18:02,310 --> 02:18:05,649
diligence report was really just to tell us that what

1772
02:18:05,750 --> 02:18:09,729
we're buying here and to give us up here an

1773
02:18:09,769 --> 02:18:13,809
opportunity to make sure that if we do purchase this

1774
02:18:13,809 --> 02:18:17,969
property tonight, that it's really a no risk on us.

1775
02:18:17,969 --> 02:18:20,769
And it's not a financial burden for the city or

1776
02:18:20,809 --> 02:18:24,609
the citizens. So, I mean, it's pretty simple for me.

1777
02:18:24,609 --> 02:18:28,209
I mean, I'm already in favor of making that decision

1778
02:18:28,710 --> 02:18:37,228
to purchase this site for 5. 3 million. Yes. Um,

1779
02:18:37,669 --> 02:18:41,168
council member Le Fay and I started, when we started

1780
02:18:41,189 --> 02:18:45,248
working on this, um, I want to thank friends and

1781
02:18:45,248 --> 02:18:48,028
Morro Elementary for all their work on this project. And

1782
02:18:48,028 --> 02:18:50,368
when we first started this, they weren't even created yet.

1783
02:18:50,368 --> 02:18:56,048
They weren't even a nonprofit. And, um, the trajectory to

1784
02:18:56,088 --> 02:19:00,848
get them there, we were looking for, um, support in

1785
02:19:00,888 --> 02:19:04,688
trying to get the building because we felt, as council

1786
02:19:04,688 --> 02:19:08,268
member Le Fay said when he viewed the property, um,

1787
02:19:08,469 --> 02:19:12,848
he felt that it was, you know, it's just gives

1788
02:19:12,848 --> 02:19:15,728
you such a sense of place when you're on the

1789
02:19:15,749 --> 02:19:18,528
property and you're looking at the school. And I think

1790
02:19:18,629 --> 02:19:22,688
he saw, I'm speaking for you, but I think he

1791
02:19:22,709 --> 02:19:25,008
can, he can tell me if I'm wrong. But I

1792
02:19:25,008 --> 02:19:28,208
think he just realized that that needed to be protected

1793
02:19:28,549 --> 02:19:32,428
and saved. And so, um, to get that property, um,

1794
02:19:33,829 --> 02:19:39,008
deemed historic, um, we naturally went to the historical society

1795
02:19:39,048 --> 02:19:41,648
of Morel Bay and asked them if they would sponsor

1796
02:19:41,989 --> 02:19:47,388
this to, to be, you know, deemed historic. And, um,

1797
02:19:47,589 --> 02:19:50,128
unfortunately they were unable to do that. But it was

1798
02:19:50,309 --> 02:19:53,728
a blessing in disguise because then Friends of Morro Elementary

1799
02:19:54,069 --> 02:19:58,608
formed, um, in a really quick way. And, um, got

1800
02:19:58,608 --> 02:20:01,728
to work. And they are moving towards having that property

1801
02:20:03,509 --> 02:20:06,928
certified historic, which as we see in the due diligence

1802
02:20:06,949 --> 02:20:12,368
report saves money on, on the property on any renovations

1803
02:20:12,789 --> 02:20:16,348
and work done on the property. So I think, um,

1804
02:20:16,348 --> 02:20:18,688
I really want to thank them. And I call out

1805
02:20:19,109 --> 02:20:21,648
the enormous effort that they have put in into all

1806
02:20:21,648 --> 02:20:27,109
of this. And, you know, we're, we're always, you know,

1807
02:20:27,230 --> 02:20:29,689
people travel, I'm sure many of us in this room

1808
02:20:30,110 --> 02:20:34,009
go to Europe and to, um, countries like that, that

1809
02:20:34,009 --> 02:20:38,409
value old, old buildings. And, um, I, I think that

1810
02:20:38,430 --> 02:20:42,009
this is such a step in the right direction for

1811
02:20:42,110 --> 02:20:45,589
Morbay in a really big deal. Um, I, I, um,

1812
02:20:46,670 --> 02:20:49,929
I know that there's, you know, if we buy the

1813
02:20:49,969 --> 02:20:54,089
property and we still have time to assess what we

1814
02:20:54,089 --> 02:20:56,729
can do there, but there's just tonight I've heard all

1815
02:20:56,750 --> 02:21:02,649
different kinds of options for revenue creation. And the brainstorming

1816
02:21:03,070 --> 02:21:04,809
as a community, I think we can come up with

1817
02:21:05,230 --> 02:21:08,709
ways to make this happen. I think that the, you

1818
02:21:08,709 --> 02:21:11,929
know, I hear really loudly that the, uh, the open

1819
02:21:11,969 --> 02:21:15,049
space is important to the community. I know that housing

1820
02:21:15,230 --> 02:21:18,969
is important. I think that there can be a mix

1821
02:21:18,969 --> 02:21:21,609
of all of those things within this project. And I

1822
02:21:21,609 --> 02:21:25,849
think the way I see it is that it can

1823
02:21:25,849 --> 02:21:29,689
be a project and something that we can all be

1824
02:21:29,710 --> 02:21:34,640
proud of here in Moro Bay. Thank you, Council Member.

1825
02:21:35,603 --> 02:21:43,273
Pro Tim. Thank you, Madam Mayor. I have to say,

1826
02:21:43,273 --> 02:21:48,535
um. I am, I'm just humbled to be sitting up

1827
02:21:48,575 --> 02:21:53,636
here tonight. And Bill privileged to be part of making

1828
02:21:54,217 --> 02:21:58,523
this decision. One of five council members on behalf of

1829
02:21:58,544 --> 02:22:02,011
all the residents. It's a big decision and it's not

1830
02:22:02,051 --> 02:22:06,491
something that I've taken lightly. It's not something that staff,

1831
02:22:06,491 --> 02:22:08,651
uh, has taken lightly. I don't think anyone in the

1832
02:22:08,672 --> 02:22:11,271
community has taken this decision lightly. We put a lot

1833
02:22:11,271 --> 02:22:16,643
of, uh, effort and thought and passion into it. Um,

1834
02:22:16,824 --> 02:22:20,043
that said, I can tell you, uh, easily and I

1835
02:22:20,043 --> 02:22:22,843
echo a lot of what my colleagues have said. I

1836
02:22:22,843 --> 02:22:27,425
support moving forward with the purchase of the property. And

1837
02:22:27,446 --> 02:22:29,505
I wrote down a few comments to make sure that

1838
02:22:29,545 --> 02:22:33,505
I'm conveying what I want to acquiring this site is

1839
02:22:33,505 --> 02:22:36,465
already an adopted city goal. And the purpose of the

1840
02:22:36,646 --> 02:22:41,585
due diligence process was to answer really a straightforward question.

1841
02:22:41,585 --> 02:22:46,465
Is there anything about the condition title environmental status historic

1842
02:22:46,566 --> 02:22:50,785
constraints or regulatory framework that should cause us to walk

1843
02:22:50,806 --> 02:22:54,842
away. Based on the work that has been completed. I

1844
02:22:54,842 --> 02:22:59,040
did not believe there is. The buildings are fundamentally sound.

1845
02:22:59,040 --> 02:23:03,280
No recognized environmental conditions were identified no title issue has

1846
02:23:03,280 --> 02:23:05,440
been found that would prevent the cities use of the

1847
02:23:05,480 --> 02:23:10,000
property and no regulatory obstacle has been identified that would

1848
02:23:10,101 --> 02:23:14,685
preclude moving forward. We have done our due diligence and

1849
02:23:14,685 --> 02:23:16,685
the report did exactly what it was set out to

1850
02:23:16,685 --> 02:23:21,049
do. Just as importantly today is not a decision on

1851
02:23:21,150 --> 02:23:25,689
a final City Hall plan housing density open space configuration

1852
02:23:26,110 --> 02:23:30,809
library plans or any other specific future use. Those decisions

1853
02:23:31,070 --> 02:23:37,633
come later with robust public input. The financial questions, of

1854
02:23:37,633 --> 02:23:41,193
course, are important, our paramount. Staff has been clear that

1855
02:23:41,454 --> 02:23:45,113
funding options will come back to the council before closing.

1856
02:23:45,113 --> 02:23:51,033
They've been working on it consistently ever since we gave

1857
02:23:51,033 --> 02:23:53,833
them this direction as a city goal. And tonight was

1858
02:23:53,873 --> 02:23:57,193
more evidence of that hard and diligent work. So for

1859
02:23:57,193 --> 02:23:59,913
me, the due diligence has done what it was intended

1860
02:23:59,934 --> 02:24:03,353
to do. It has shown that this is a viable

1861
02:24:03,534 --> 02:24:07,913
property and a significant long - term opportunity for more

1862
02:24:07,953 --> 02:24:11,802
obey. I believe the responsible decision today is to preserve

1863
02:24:11,842 --> 02:24:19,014
that opportunity and move forward with the acquisition. This obviously

1864
02:24:19,115 --> 02:24:21,894
is a once in, well, we say once in a

1865
02:24:21,894 --> 02:24:24,294
lifetime, it's once an eternity, because if we don't seeze

1866
02:24:24,294 --> 02:24:30,372
this opportunity, it's gone and it's gone forever. So I'm

1867
02:24:30,393 --> 02:24:33,492
proud. I believe I know the direction or I hope

1868
02:24:33,753 --> 02:24:37,252
the direction that this vote is going to go tonight,

1869
02:24:37,252 --> 02:24:39,652
uh, if we decide to acquire the property, I want

1870
02:24:39,652 --> 02:24:42,292
to say that I am proud to be sitting on

1871
02:24:42,473 --> 02:24:46,212
a council that has the courage and the vision to

1872
02:24:46,953 --> 02:24:52,178
move this acquisition forward. Thank you. Thank you. Council Member

1873
02:24:52,279 --> 02:24:58,309
Edwards. Yeah. Anybody that knows me knows that I'm a

1874
02:24:58,349 --> 02:25:03,669
creative person. I'm a lover of, um, old buildings reuse

1875
02:25:04,090 --> 02:25:09,749
repurposing the creative aspect of this project is absolutely exciting.

1876
02:25:09,749 --> 02:25:13,189
The idea, even if it's the working scenario, a civic

1877
02:25:13,229 --> 02:25:18,469
center that is inclusive of everyone, um, staff wise, that

1878
02:25:18,469 --> 02:25:21,189
is brilliant. I just want to give a little bit

1879
02:25:21,290 --> 02:25:25,829
of peppering here tonight of just some thoughts that I'd

1880
02:25:25,829 --> 02:25:29,189
like everybody to go away with. Um, my eyes are

1881
02:25:29,530 --> 02:25:32,949
wide open on this. And for me, it actually isn't

1882
02:25:33,210 --> 02:25:37,269
that simple of a decision. Um, we were here, brought

1883
02:25:37,269 --> 02:25:41,109
here tonight to determine whether or not we continue to

1884
02:25:41,210 --> 02:25:44,709
perceive with the closing escrow and completing the purchase of

1885
02:25:44,810 --> 02:25:49,429
Moreau Bay Elementary. By accepting the due diligence report, it's

1886
02:25:49,469 --> 02:25:53,989
suitability findings. We're presented with the following. As Re mentioned,

1887
02:25:53,989 --> 02:25:58,229
um, by ProTem Eccles. The one that stands out to

1888
02:25:58,269 --> 02:26:03,829
me is totally investment that significant and partially offset by

1889
02:26:04,010 --> 02:26:09,429
value streams identified leaving remaining funding requirements. This leaves me

1890
02:26:09,930 --> 02:26:15,349
with questions and concerns. Is the balance of consideration a

1891
02:26:15,389 --> 02:26:19,978
suitable moving forward. Part of my job as an elected

1892
02:26:19,999 --> 02:26:24,736
is to approve our annual budget. This project or this

1893
02:26:25,157 --> 02:26:29,346
working scenario was not budgeted in. Our annual budget and

1894
02:26:29,346 --> 02:26:34,306
represent the community and its best interests, both establishing goals,

1895
02:26:34,306 --> 02:26:37,906
long and short term and being fiscally responsible in delivering

1896
02:26:38,007 --> 02:26:41,906
upon them with the help of our staff. This council's

1897
02:26:41,946 --> 02:26:45,666
goals that were set forth were three, not just this

1898
02:26:45,927 --> 02:26:52,866
one. One economic vitality, two infrastructure resiliency three, Morro Bay

1899
02:26:52,887 --> 02:27:00,243
Elementary. It's important that I refer to this because nowhere

1900
02:27:00,664 --> 02:27:04,883
in our goals set forth should we necessarily have to

1901
02:27:05,144 --> 02:27:10,751
forgo one for another. It jeopardizes the ability potentially for

1902
02:27:10,852 --> 02:27:14,671
us to pursue, um, other things that we need to

1903
02:27:15,012 --> 02:27:19,631
finance with regard to our economic vitality and infrastructure resiliency

1904
02:27:19,652 --> 02:27:26,271
goals. Perhaps we may be asked to prioritize those. Base

1905
02:27:26,271 --> 02:27:30,271
our decisions on the economic climate and our budget balancing

1906
02:27:30,452 --> 02:27:33,783
reality. I think it seems clear that most of us

1907
02:27:34,044 --> 02:27:38,263
don't want to dip into our reserves, which are our

1908
02:27:38,303 --> 02:27:43,383
emergency funds. And this is in reality not an emergency.

1909
02:27:44,213 --> 02:27:49,232
Can we rationalize tonight with little time to digest the

1910
02:27:49,232 --> 02:27:52,992
questions that we were given through correspondence and new financing

1911
02:27:53,333 --> 02:27:57,952
information and only one site plan alternative to opine on.

1912
02:27:59,032 --> 02:28:04,771
We've been unable to identify significant new revenue streams to

1913
02:28:04,771 --> 02:28:10,131
compensate for our increased expenses and flattening out revenues. A

1914
02:28:10,131 --> 02:28:15,171
seriously critical component of our first goal of economic vitality.

1915
02:28:15,171 --> 02:28:18,771
We've looked at our reserve policy, as I said before,

1916
02:28:18,771 --> 02:28:22,451
and to my knowledge, um, there was no, uh, desire

1917
02:28:22,491 --> 02:28:28,743
to, to lower those and use that money. Although I'm

1918
02:28:28,764 --> 02:28:32,823
happy we're getting to our five year capital improvement plan

1919
02:28:33,404 --> 02:28:36,823
soon, very soon. I'm very happy about that. How does

1920
02:28:36,844 --> 02:28:40,423
the purchase of this school affect our second goal of

1921
02:28:40,444 --> 02:28:44,823
infrastructure resiliency? There is a component of this goal that

1922
02:28:44,823 --> 02:28:48,503
I want to read here to include regular maintenance to

1923
02:28:48,604 --> 02:28:53,943
prolong the life of existing infrastructure while implementing and prioritizing

1924
02:28:54,204 --> 02:28:58,233
new ones. Staff has worked incredibly hard to get us

1925
02:28:58,273 --> 02:29:01,513
here tonight to assist in our being able to deliver

1926
02:29:01,694 --> 02:29:05,813
on our goals. This one being more obey elementary. The

1927
02:29:06,014 --> 02:29:11,433
status update attached to consent agenda item 60 confirms this.

1928
02:29:11,433 --> 02:29:14,313
I applaud them. Before I could deliver a vote on

1929
02:29:14,353 --> 02:29:18,153
tonight's item, I needed to state all of this for

1930
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the record and for the Public to hear. Because I've

1931
02:29:21,660 --> 02:29:26,700
been struggling with this fiduciary obligation. And of course this

1932
02:29:26,740 --> 02:29:31,660
is a wonderful opportunity that may come to fruition if

1933
02:29:31,660 --> 02:29:35,020
we moved with a swift timeline with all the moving

1934
02:29:35,121 --> 02:29:39,180
parts in play and being confident that this community can

1935
02:29:39,281 --> 02:29:43,740
come together in agreement that the housing element is needed

1936
02:29:44,161 --> 02:29:50,486
and necessary for this to happen. Thank you. Can I

1937
02:29:50,486 --> 02:29:54,145
make a motion. Can I finish? Oh yeah. Thank you.

1938
02:29:56,415 --> 02:30:00,954
I was just starting. I wanted to be the last.

1939
02:30:00,954 --> 02:30:03,974
Thank you, council member Edwards. Um, I want to, um,

1940
02:30:04,335 --> 02:30:08,474
share my gratitude also for Council Member Landerman Le Fay

1941
02:30:08,514 --> 02:30:11,514
for their diligent work over this in the last year.

1942
02:30:11,514 --> 02:30:15,514
And our city manager, um, who brought this project, this

1943
02:30:15,514 --> 02:30:17,594
goal home in the first place, uh, in a short

1944
02:30:17,634 --> 02:30:21,674
time that he was here moved this forward, um, and

1945
02:30:21,674 --> 02:30:24,234
was able to negotiate a deal with the district that

1946
02:30:24,274 --> 02:30:27,674
the council and the community found acceptable and has gone

1947
02:30:27,695 --> 02:30:30,234
to the next step to find an option for funding.

1948
02:30:31,659 --> 02:30:37,238
Without touching our city funds right now, um, someone talked

1949
02:30:37,238 --> 02:30:41,078
about being a fiscal conservative. I think I consider myself

1950
02:30:41,259 --> 02:30:44,878
a fiscal conservative. I'm self - employed. The others up

1951
02:30:44,878 --> 02:30:49,078
here, we work very hard and are very cognitive of

1952
02:30:49,118 --> 02:30:52,038
what our Reserve Funds are. They're the highest they've ever

1953
02:30:52,038 --> 02:30:55,798
been. And we watch that piggy bank because it's your

1954
02:30:55,819 --> 02:30:59,958
money. The decisions we make, we always weigh that in.

1955
02:30:59,958 --> 02:31:03,638
It's your money. We're residents also when it costs you.

1956
02:31:03,638 --> 02:31:06,118
It costs us. So, so we're very conscious and very

1957
02:31:06,158 --> 02:31:09,478
cognitive. I think of it every time that I look

1958
02:31:09,518 --> 02:31:13,078
at 120 million dollar sewer that was funded that's now

1959
02:31:13,099 --> 02:31:16,758
at 100, almost 70 million that was done by our

1960
02:31:16,779 --> 02:31:21,238
predecessor. So I'm very aware of what that can be

1961
02:31:21,899 --> 02:31:24,838
and that cost and that burden to the community we

1962
02:31:24,878 --> 02:31:28,038
see it constantly as the Project can't even close out

1963
02:31:28,139 --> 02:31:31,558
at this point. Um, so, so I take it very

1964
02:31:31,598 --> 02:31:35,061
seriously. I look at a task at Arrow City Hall

1965
02:31:35,562 --> 02:31:38,501
when I go over there for meetings or to visit.

1966
02:31:38,501 --> 02:31:42,143
And it's the most beautiful building. And it connects that

1967
02:31:42,324 --> 02:31:46,223
downtown area with their park and the opportunity for moral

1968
02:31:46,324 --> 02:31:50,686
elementary to be that space. To be that building for

1969
02:31:50,726 --> 02:31:55,561
us is huge. I didn't go to school there. But

1970
02:31:55,582 --> 02:31:58,761
my husband did. My kids did. So yeah, I have

1971
02:31:58,761 --> 02:32:01,081
an emotional attachment and I'm not making this vote based

1972
02:32:01,081 --> 02:32:03,961
on those emotions. I make in it based on this

1973
02:32:04,222 --> 02:32:07,401
legacy idea of what that property can be for this

1974
02:32:07,441 --> 02:32:11,081
community and what it means to the community moving forward,

1975
02:32:11,081 --> 02:32:13,881
the opportunities are endless. And what we can do there.

1976
02:32:13,881 --> 02:32:16,521
And I agree. I hope we can coalesce and come

1977
02:32:16,622 --> 02:32:19,401
to decisions that we can all agree on or best

1978
02:32:19,401 --> 02:32:23,172
we can do to agree on. And move forward. And

1979
02:32:23,353 --> 02:32:27,172
the opportunity and the considerations, which again, are all conversations

1980
02:32:27,193 --> 02:32:29,892
about City Hall being there is because that's allowed us

1981
02:32:29,913 --> 02:32:35,255
an opportunity to utilize that space. For housing. It allows

1982
02:32:35,295 --> 02:32:37,735
us the opportunity to not spend the money that would

1983
02:32:37,775 --> 02:32:40,935
need to be reinvested into those buildings. Public works for

1984
02:32:40,956 --> 02:32:43,615
people who don't know is in part of modular. I

1985
02:32:43,615 --> 02:32:47,095
mean, it's, it's not even a real complete building. Sorry,

1986
02:32:47,095 --> 02:32:53,512
Irland. But to maintain those and to consider upgrading those

1987
02:32:54,813 --> 02:32:58,072
will cost millions of dollars. So that offsets some of

1988
02:32:58,072 --> 02:33:00,072
what it's going to cost us to make that move.

1989
02:33:00,072 --> 02:33:03,192
So I see those things as finding a balance as

1990
02:33:03,192 --> 02:33:05,272
you move forward to weigh those out. The grants and

1991
02:33:05,272 --> 02:33:10,232
the other opportunities. But, um, I feel that this opportunity

1992
02:33:10,333 --> 02:33:15,192
will rival any other city hall. And that's my comments.

1993
02:33:15,866 --> 02:33:21,605
We will, um, certainly be back soon. What future meetings

1994
02:33:21,645 --> 02:33:24,725
for financial planning and discussions so that the community can

1995
02:33:24,725 --> 02:33:26,965
be part of that. I think we're very fortunate to

1996
02:33:27,005 --> 02:33:30,945
have this opportunity. And I would just say that, um,

1997
02:33:31,386 --> 02:33:34,565
there's a comment about not having this in the budget

1998
02:33:35,386 --> 02:33:37,685
based on what the city manager is telling me we

1999
02:33:37,685 --> 02:33:39,525
don't have to address it for the next year because

2000
02:33:39,546 --> 02:33:42,565
they're not requesting any funding. So, um, it gives us

2001
02:33:42,586 --> 02:33:44,965
time to move forward and how to manage that and

2002
02:33:44,965 --> 02:33:47,285
what that looks like. But it's not putting us at

2003
02:33:47,306 --> 02:33:49,445
a deficit of our budget that we've already approved this

2004
02:33:49,445 --> 02:33:52,965
year. So, um, any other comments before we move into

2005
02:33:53,146 --> 02:33:58,944
a motion. Member Landry clarification on the motion or do

2006
02:33:58,984 --> 02:34:05,264
you know? Is it the second? I need to do

2007
02:34:05,365 --> 02:34:08,176
all three of them. Well, the motion's going to be

2008
02:34:08,216 --> 02:34:10,256
one, two, and you have to do three A. Okay.

2009
02:34:10,597 --> 02:34:13,456
And then I move that we receive and accept the

2010
02:34:13,496 --> 02:34:17,456
Morro Elementary School site due diligence report and make a

2011
02:34:17,456 --> 02:34:21,296
determination pursuant to Section 1. 5 of the purchase and

2012
02:34:21,336 --> 02:34:24,816
sale agreement, whether to find the property suitable for city

2013
02:34:24,816 --> 02:34:28,176
purposes and confirm the city's intent to purchase the property

2014
02:34:28,837 --> 02:34:32,296
and proceed through the due diligence period. And based on

2015
02:34:32,296 --> 02:34:36,416
the determination provide direction to staff on next steps, which

2016
02:34:36,416 --> 02:34:39,696
are proceed to close of escrow and return to the

2017
02:34:40,117 --> 02:34:42,896
city council in October with the final terms of the

2018
02:34:43,237 --> 02:34:47,753
purchase, including the potential for seller financing. Do I have

2019
02:34:47,753 --> 02:34:51,353
a second? I'll second that. I'm emotional. Second. Mr. Steck.

2020
02:34:51,374 --> 02:34:55,113
NFA may real quickly Bryce Axety attorney here to confirm

2021
02:34:55,534 --> 02:34:59,733
that item two we should delete the word weather. And

2022
02:34:59,774 --> 02:35:01,753
it will make, it said, if you make a determinant,

2023
02:35:01,793 --> 02:35:05,673
determination pursuant to Section 1. 5. Of the purchase and

2024
02:35:05,673 --> 02:35:08,473
zero agreement to find. Can you strike that weather? Just

2025
02:35:08,473 --> 02:35:12,381
wanted it clear for the record. Yep. You agree. I'm

2026
02:35:12,381 --> 02:35:15,441
the second degree. I'll second. I agree. Okay. Thank you.

2027
02:35:16,876 --> 02:35:22,275
Council Member Landrum. Yes. Councilmember Le Fay. Yes. Council Member

2028
02:35:22,296 --> 02:35:27,622
Edwards. No. Council member Eccles. Yes. And Mayor Wixom. Yes.

2029
02:35:27,643 --> 02:35:28,942
Motion carries 4 - 1.

2030
02:35:37,823 --> 02:35:40,682
Thank you everyone. And we look forward to the continued

2031
02:35:40,703 --> 02:35:44,022
participation as we move into the next phases. And, uh,

2032
02:35:44,383 --> 02:35:48,682
I know Mr. Craig will have some information available on

2033
02:35:48,703 --> 02:35:55,729
what that looks like any future agenda items. With that,

2034
02:35:55,729 --> 02:35:57,330
we are adjourned. Thank you.