1 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:23,320 Hi everybody and welcome to our council meeting. We're getting through. It's the 2 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:28,320 middle of August. The weather is great and council you see before you 3 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:31,560 an agenda and I don't see anything out of the kid. Although I do some see some 4 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:35,240 messaging about e-bikes and e-scooters. Should be a good conversation hopefully 5 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:38,520 tonight. So to adopt the agenda I need a motion and moved by Councillor Fry. 6 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:44,920 Thank you and seconded by Councillor Deputy Mayor Lock. All in favor? Those 7 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:48,480 opposed? And that's carried. Um in recognition of the city of Mount 8 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:51,640 Pearl's commitment to foster respectful and collaborative relationships with 9 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:55,160 indigenous peoples here in the city of Mount Pearl and beyond. 10 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:59,960 We hereby acknowledge that the land on which we gather is the ancestral and 11 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:03,840 unceded territory of the Beothuk and the Mi'kmaq. Mount Pearl and the broader 12 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:11,960 metro region continue to be home to diverse indigenous peoples including 13 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,960 First Nations, Inuit and Métis. 14 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:19,080 Once said a minute's there an action report from July 26th before we discuss 15 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:25,280 any business arising council need your approval for these minutes. So any 16 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,280 errors or omissions? 17 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,120 All good? Everybody good? 18 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:33,160 All right. Calling for motion moved by Councillor Rice and seconded by 19 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,880 Councillor Antle that we approve those minutes. All in favor? 20 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:43,840 And opposed? And that's carried. Business arising please quote the number 21 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,840 in the minutes or the action report. 22 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:52,080 No business arising tonight. There is no proclamations. There's no presentations 23 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,640 or correspondence but we do have corporate services 24 00:01:54,360 --> 00:02:00,480 and I believe taking the lead there will be Councillor Antle. You're yours. 25 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,400 » Thank you, Your Worship. And now we have to pay our bills. We have a lot of work 26 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:07,360 to do in the city. And the first one is our payment 27 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:14,120 register for August 18th, 2026. And for the payment register for 28 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:17,480 July 1st to the 31st, 2026 for the for a total of 4,572,818.56. 29 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:30,680 And the purchase card report from May 28th, 20 May 28th, 2026 to June 25th, 30 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,680 2026 for a total of 445,060.59. 31 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,880 And if you look at your kit there on the the 32 00:02:33,959 --> 00:02:39,640 uh items to pay, there's a few large ones 33 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:44,600 there, one in particular for Dexter Construction for $797,000. 34 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,800 That's up there on Jackman Drive. And there's three different to the city 35 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:51,760 of St. John's for our regional services, and they total for $700,000 or 36 00:02:49,959 --> 00:02:54,760 thereabouts. And you can see in your kit, and they're all good, and I so 37 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:58,520 move. >> It is moved by Councillor Antle and 38 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:03,280 seconded by Deputy Mayor Lock. Any questions? 39 00:03:01,239 --> 00:03:08,080 Hearing none, I'll call for approval of the payment register and purchase card 40 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:11,680 report. All in favor? Contra-minded? Thank you. Carried. 41 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:14,600 » And number two has to do with professional development. And you know, 42 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:18,480 with professional development, I guess I stated there last uh 2 weeks ago, it's 43 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,600 so good for us to be able to travel around to different parts of the country 44 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,880 to see what other communities are doing, what other councilors are doing. 45 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,720 And this one has to do with economic development, and that's for myself. And 46 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:32,920 the Economic Development Association this year is going to be held in Moncton 47 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:37,680 from September the 14th to the 7th from September 14th to 7th, 2026. And I so 48 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,560 move. >> Thank you for the motions, Councillor 49 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:44,040 Antle and Deputy Mayor Lock. This is in accordance with policy, and even though 50 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,880 it's not routine, it does come It is routine, but it does come to this table 51 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,280 for approval. All in favor? 52 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,680 And those opposed? And that's carried, thanks. 53 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:59,560 » And our next professional development, this is really good to see. It's for 54 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:03,720 Deputy Mayor Locke for the Atlantic Planners Institute and this is held in 55 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:06,440 PEI and it's really good to get together with other planners and I'm sure our 56 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:11,360 planners will learn this is a great conference to take an effect and it 57 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:15,720 starts from October 7th to the 9th, 2026 and I so move. 58 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,799 » Again, moved by Councillor Antle, seconded by the Deputy Mayor. All in 59 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:22,680 favor? Opposed? Nets carried as well. 60 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:29,200 » And uh number four is a professional development request. This is for Mayor, 61 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:33,080 Deputy Mayor and all counselors, I would think. Well, no, I'm sorry, it's for 62 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:37,440 Counselors Fry and Antle and this is for MNL here in St. John's. All right, and 63 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:41,720 this is a great conference on November 5th to the 7th and we're very lucky to 64 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:46,840 have the uh Vice President of MNL here in our chambers as well as Councillor 65 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:50,400 Fry. This is a great uh opportunity for us to 66 00:04:48,919 --> 00:04:55,360 to chat with other counselors and this goes from November 5th to the 7th and I 67 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,640 so move. >> Again, moved by Councillor Antle, 68 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:03,760 seconded by Deputy Mayor for these four members of our council to go to MNL in 69 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:07,280 the fall. All in favor? Opposed? Carried, thanks. 70 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:16,480 » And another professional development request for our CAO, Cassie Rideout, to 71 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:21,919 attend the same conference, MNL here in St. John's and I so move. 72 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:27,200 » Moved and seconded. All in favor? Opposed? Thank you, carried. 73 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:30,720 » And number six is another professional development training and again, it's a 74 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:35,480 fabulous to see. It's for our Director, Jason Collins, to handle a 75 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:40,240 recreation and community safety event at Sombra 2026 76 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:45,200 in Shediac, New Brunswick from September the 8th to the 11th and I so move. 77 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,600 » Again, moved by Councillor Antle, seconded by Deputy Mayor Locke. All in 78 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,240 favor? Opposed? Again, carried, thank you. 79 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:55,280 That's everything for corporate services, your worship. Thank you. 80 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:59,240 Going to move on to the public works report, and that is Councillor Fry, 81 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:03,720 please. >> Thank you, your worship. 82 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:07,120 Our report this evening is just for information purposes, just to give 83 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,880 everybody an update on what our crews have been doing cuz they're very, very 84 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:15,040 busy and they work very hard. Our roads division, the repairs on 85 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:19,200 maintenance holes, catch basins, curbs, sidewalks, lawn, and and asphalt 86 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:24,080 continues. And street sweeping is ongoing. For our 87 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:28,280 parks division, there's of course maintenance on our our sports fields, 88 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:33,440 that continues. Our flower plant planters and baskets have been installed 89 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:37,840 and they look amazing, too, by the way. Uh our commemorative bench installations 90 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:41,200 and required maintenance, providing ground maintenance for summer 91 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,800 tournaments, and that's busy this summer. 92 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:48,560 Grass cutting throughout the city is ongoing, providing support throughout 93 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:52,640 the summer for community events, court resurfacing projects are underway and I 94 00:06:50,919 --> 00:06:56,720 think people have seen those on social media, they're doing a great job there. 95 00:06:54,640 --> 00:07:01,480 And playground structures for Farrell Drive and Branscombe Pond have arrived 96 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:05,919 and the installation will start uh soon in late summer. 97 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:09,400 Our fleet division is ongoing uh ongoing service and maintenance, and our UTM 98 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:13,840 division of course have their general calls, their water and sewer repairs, 99 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:19,160 leak detection, which is always important, fire hydrant inspection and 100 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:23,720 maintenance are ongoing, the water main valve servicing and exercising, the lift 101 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:28,680 station inspections and maintenance, catch basin and storm sewer cleaning, 102 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:33,440 and as always, you can see in your kit here the water levels of Bable's Big 103 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:36,480 Pond as of August the 10th, taken a little bit of a dip, but still quite 104 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,760 healthy. And that's it for our report, your 105 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:44,680 worship. Thank Thank very much. Now we're going 106 00:07:40,919 --> 00:07:49,920 to turn to recreation and in the absence of the Deputy Mayor Kylie, I should say, 107 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:55,120 who is on a leave of absence and without Councillor Lane, I'm going to turn to 108 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,120 Councillor Fry and Councillor Rice. 109 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:03,320 » Always happy to talk about our recreation department. 110 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:07,000 Okay, so we have a request for milestone funding for an event for Ladies 111 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:12,120 Auxiliary Knights of Columbus for their 50th anniversary and they're planning on 112 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:16,880 having an anniversary dinner. Be it resolved that the requested 113 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:21,800 funding of $3,500 through milestone event funding be released to the Ladies 114 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:25,640 Auxiliary Knights of Columbus once all receipts have been submitted for their 115 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:30,000 50th anniversary celebration dinner on October the 24th. 116 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:35,599 So, the Ladies Auxiliary submitted a request advising that they will hold a 117 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:40,640 dinner to celebrate the past and present of the Ladies Auxiliary, 118 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:44,039 which was founded in 1976 as a church ministry. 119 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:47,960 The ministry involved volunteering with church functions, supporting food banks, 120 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:52,680 and providing assistance to the Knights of Columbus with all their events. 121 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:57,560 The Ladies Auxiliary Knights of Columbus is a long-standing and valued community 122 00:08:54,800 --> 00:09:01,880 organization with a significant history of contributions within the City of 123 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:05,920 Mount Pearl. So, therefore, the committee recommends 124 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:09,200 approval to provide the Ladies Auxiliary Knights of Columbus with written 125 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:13,720 confirmation of the requested $3,500 for their 50th 126 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:18,640 anniversary celebration dinner on October the 24th, 2026. 127 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:23,480 And furthermore, it is recommended that the funds approved by council, $3,500, 128 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:29,520 be released once all receipts have been submitted, ensuring the cost of the 129 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:32,800 event is or exceed the requested amount. And I so move. 130 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,880 » Thank you. Moved by Councillor Fry, seconded by Councillor Rice. Any 131 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,720 comments? Coming out of policy overdue, Councillor 132 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,000 Anstey. >> Just a quick question. I'm a member of 133 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,240 Knights of Columbus. Am I in a conflict on this, Your Worship? Thank you. 134 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,160 » Only if you are on the executive of the 135 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:51,040 ladies auxiliary. >> I'm not, so I guess I'm good. Thank you. 136 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:56,680 » Further? Call the question then. All in favor? 137 00:09:54,480 --> 00:10:00,840 And those who are opposed? None? Thank you. Carried. 138 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:06,760 » Finally, for the recreation department, is just some information notes here. 139 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:09,880 Information for the for the attention and consideration of council and the 140 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:13,600 public. Registration for swim lessons, the Mount 141 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:18,520 Pearl Seniors Independence Group fitness programs, general recreation programs, 142 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:22,400 as well as the time and care programs will open on the following dates. 143 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:27,560 The Mount Pearl Seniors Independence Group fitness programs for Mount Pearl 144 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:32,160 residents is August 25th at 1:00 p.m. And for non-residents, August 27th at 145 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:36,200 1:00 p.m. The general fitness programs, now of 146 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:40,680 course, proof of residency residency is required for resident registration. 147 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:45,600 Mount Pearl residents will register for general fitness programs on August the 148 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:50,920 25th at 5:00 p.m. and non-residents, August 27th at 5:00 p.m. 149 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:55,920 The time program, and this program requires a referral before participants 150 00:10:53,480 --> 00:11:02,680 can register. For Mount Pearl residents, it's August 25th at 5:00 p.m. and 151 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:07,880 non-residents, August 27th at 5:00 p.m. And our care program, this program also 152 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,960 requires a referral before participants can register. 153 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:16,839 Again, Mount Pearl residents will register on August 25th at 5:00 p.m. and 154 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:21,560 non-residents, August 27th at 5:00 p.m. And swim lessons registration, of 155 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:27,280 course, this one's always popular. And proof of residency is required for 156 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:32,560 resident registration here as well. Mount Pearl residents will register for 157 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:36,720 this one on August the 31st at 5:00 p.m. and non-residents September the 2nd at 158 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,840 5:00 p.m. As I mentioned, residents are required 159 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:44,760 to provide a valid proof of residency prior to the registration date and 160 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:49,800 participants are encouraged to register early as programs program spaces are 161 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:53,760 limited and may fill up quickly. So, for more information, please visit 162 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:58,000 the city of Mount Pearl website. And that's it for this report, Your Worship. 163 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,640 Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Nothing for 164 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:06,600 community safety, this meeting, engineering, Councillor Rice. 165 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:10,560 » Thank you, Your Worship. Our first one in our 166 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:13,600 our kit here tonight is a uh is a contract award for electrical 167 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,600 maintenance services, which is our TP-26-017. 168 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:24,880 So, uh the council uh approval is requested to award the contract for 169 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,680 electrical services. This approval will allow the city to engage in preferred 170 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,960 proponent to complete electrical maintenance and 171 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:35,080 services throughout the city. The tender for the electrical 172 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:40,800 maintenance services TP-26-017 closed on July the 27th, 2026 173 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:44,680 and four bids were received. The lowest qualified bidder was Pro Circuit 174 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:49,680 Electrical Incorporated for the bid amount of $129,375 175 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:53,600 HST included. So, this contract is for an initial 176 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:58,600 period of 3 years from September the 1st, 2026 177 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:02,640 until August the 31st, 2029. The city reserves the right to extend 178 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:06,800 the contract by increments of 1 year for a period of up to 179 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:09,960 not more than 2 years upon the same terms and conditions provided both 180 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,440 parties agree. So, planning, engineering, and 181 00:13:10,839 --> 00:13:16,440 development recommends that the contract for electrical maintenance services 182 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,880 TP-26-017 be awarded to the lowest qualified 183 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:23,800 bidder Pro Circuit Electrical Incorporated for 184 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:30,840 the bid amount of $129,375 HST included for the period of September 185 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:33,800 the 1st, 2026 to August the 31st, 2029 with the right to extend the contract by 186 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:37,240 increments of 1 year period for the period of the not more than 2 years, and 187 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:42,520 I so move. >> Move by Councillor Rice and seconded by 188 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:46,600 Councillor Antle. Any questions? 3 to 5 years. It's like a sentence. 189 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,560 But it's a tender. All in favor. 190 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:52,200 Those opposed. Thank you, sir. It's carried. Over to 191 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:56,240 you for plumbing. >> Thank you. Our second one is our 192 00:13:54,440 --> 00:14:00,160 contract award for a plum plumbing maintenance services TP-26-018. 193 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:06,760 So, this one council approval is also a contract 194 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:10,800 required or requested for the plumbing maintenance services. This approval will 195 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:14,600 allow the city to engage in preferred performance to complete the plumbing 196 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:18,200 plumbing maintenance and services throughout the city. 197 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:23,080 Uh so, the background this one is the tender for plumbing maintenance services 198 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,080 TP-26-018 199 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:30,480 closed on July the 28th, 2026, and one bid was received. The lowest qualified 200 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:34,839 bidder was King's Plumbing and Heating Limited 201 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:38,760 for a bid amount of $60,375, HST included. 202 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:45,839 Uh this contract is for initial period of 3 years from September the 1st, 2026 203 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:49,720 to August 31st, 2029. The city reserved the right to extend the contract by 204 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,920 increments of 1 year for period of up to not more 205 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:56,560 to no more than 2 years upon the same terms and conditions provided both 206 00:14:55,080 --> 00:15:00,720 parties agree. So, the planning engineering development 207 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:05,200 recommends that the contract for plumbing 208 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:07,680 maintenance services TB-26-018 be awarded to the lowest qualified 209 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:13,520 bidder King's Plumbing and Heating Limited for 210 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:18,920 the bid amount of $60,375, HST included for the period of September 211 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:23,720 the 1st, 2026 until August the 31st, 2029 with the right to extend the 212 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:27,480 contract by increments of 1 year for a period of not more than 2 years and I 213 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:31,040 shall move. >> Moved again by Council Rice, seconded. 214 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,240 Thank you by Council Antle. All in favor? 215 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,040 » Aye. >> Those opposed? 216 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,640 Seeing no cut hands up and that's approved. 217 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:51,400 » Our third one is our adoption of the National Building Code 2025 part nine, 218 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:54,320 the energy efficient requirements. Just a little background on this one. 219 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:59,360 The province of Newfoundland and Labrador has adopted the 2025 National 220 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:03,760 Building Code. However, municipalities retain authority to adopt part nine 221 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:07,720 residential energy efficiency requirements 222 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:12,240 and determine the applicant energy performance tier one 223 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:17,240 tier for one and two family dwelling units. Council must 224 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:22,320 therefore determine whether the adoption section 9.36, which is the energy 225 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:25,600 efficiency and establish an implementation approach for the city of 226 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:30,320 Mount Pearl. So background on this one. The 2025 227 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:33,240 Building Code and National Fire Code came into 228 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:38,000 force in Newfoundland and Labrador on July the 12th, 2026. 229 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:42,280 While the province adopts most provisions of the National Building Code 230 00:16:39,839 --> 00:16:47,320 part nine residential require part nine residential requirements 231 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:52,120 related to one and two family dwellings remain subject to municipality 232 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:57,760 adoptions. As a result, municipalities must independently determine whether the 233 00:16:54,360 --> 00:17:04,319 adoption section 9.36 energy efficiency efficiency and 234 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:09,720 establish the applicant applicable minimum 235 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:14,839 compliance tier. So section 9.36 introduced a five-tier residential 236 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:20,000 energy efficiency framework ranging from tier one, which is the base compliance, 237 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:24,560 to tier five, which is the net zero energy ready. 238 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:28,120 Uh so, the city of Mount Pearl, just a second, I'll just get down to the bottom 239 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:34,240 here. The committee recommends that the council adopt National Building Code 240 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:38,520 2025 part nine, including section 3.3 9.36, 241 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:43,840 and the energy efficiency for one and two family dwellings within city of 242 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:46,760 Mount Pearl, and establish tier two as the initial mandatory compliance 243 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:53,240 standard. Staff further further recommended 244 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:58,760 uh that council consider a future review of tier tier three 245 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:03,800 implementation once municipal processes, industry readiness, and staff capacity 246 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:07,960 have been established. Tier four and tier five are not recommended at this 247 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:11,480 time, and I so move. >> Again, moved by Councillor Rice, 248 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:14,360 seconded by Councillor Antle. Come to you, Councillor Deputy Mayor 249 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,520 Lock. >> Uh thank you, Mayor. 250 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,680 » Thank you, Councillor Rice. >> You know, just just for clarity here, I 251 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:24,360 know Councillor Rice indicated that there's up to tier five tiers in this 252 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:28,320 particular uh part nine of the National Building Code, and it seems that we're 253 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:33,840 only achieving tier two of a possible five. And the 254 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:36,960 rationale for that, of course, is um I mean, this will be mandatory 255 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:40,680 requirements if if and council discussed this at large with with staff and based 256 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:45,600 on staff recommendations. If we were to adopt mandatory tier five, 257 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:51,040 that would that would increase the cost of housing tremendously. That it 258 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:54,760 wouldn't be it wouldn't be viable. So, um we figured the most prudent thing to 259 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:57,360 do was tier up to tier two, which is still energy efficient. I don't want to 260 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,800 get the I don't want the message out there that Mount Pearl is sort of 261 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:05,880 reneging on energy efficiency and climate initiatives, because we are not. 262 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:11,360 Uh so, we recognize, in consultation, you know, with the the builders, that uh 263 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:15,360 most of the tier two requirements are already being undertaken. So, by making 264 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:19,240 that mandatory in the city of Mount Pearl, we're not causing any undue 265 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:23,520 hardship or any increased costs on potential home buyers. With that said, 266 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:28,160 we have committed to review the requirements for tier three in 267 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:31,880 consultation with the builders and the experts in the field and our staff and 268 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,120 maybe we can move to adopt that in the years to come. So, I just want to make 269 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,360 that point of a clarification there, Mayor. Thank you. 270 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:41,560 » Yeah, what's the staff? Director Bett, are we one of the first to do this and 271 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,920 uh how far ahead of everybody else are we? 272 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,960 Um I think it's a good thing as Councillor Deputy Mayor Locke is saying, 273 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:53,840 but uh um I'm glad to see the initiative being 274 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,840 undertaken by you and your department. 275 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:59,680 » Yeah, I'm not sure if we're one of the first, but there's conversation around 276 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:04,040 municipalities on Northeast Avalon. Um what approaches are being taken. Um 277 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:09,280 at a staff level, we've been coordinating back and forth on where we 278 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:13,040 believe is the appropriate path. Uh that's been communicated to the other 279 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:17,880 municipalities as well. But, as Councillor Locke said, uh tier two is 280 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:22,400 uh not far off from what we're already 281 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:27,200 achieving with most modern homes. So, that's a good place to start with, you 282 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:32,560 know, ambition to move forward uh as we understand the process more. 283 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:38,480 » Would this apply to uh renovations or is it just new builds? How does that 284 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:42,600 carry itself through the processes? >> It is primarily new builds. Renovation 285 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:47,080 would have to classify for a certain area to be renovated in order to comply. 286 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:51,520 Otherwise, it would be I'd say grandfathered under prior building 287 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,400 codes. >> Uh no, Councillor Angel, and then you, 288 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:58,160 Deputy Mayor. Sorry about that. No worries. 289 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:02,760 » Uh just a quick question. I know this comes in effect in the province July the 290 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,360 12th. When is it effective for the city of Mount Pearl and does the builders get 291 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,720 some a notification? Thank you. 292 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,920 » Yeah. >> so after it's been adopted tonight, it 293 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:18,000 would be into effect. However, we wouldn't we would give a grace period 294 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:22,960 and a notification period to developers and contractors before we roll it out 295 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:27,400 officially. Um I'm expecting probably late fall to make it uh a mandatory 296 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:32,320 compliance criteria. It'll give us some time to get our forms and policies in 297 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:35,080 order uh to check to make sure this is being achieved. 298 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:42,040 » Uh thank you, Director. Uh just for the question, Mayor, based on on your 299 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:46,560 question earlier, I know we we give out grants for people to upgrade, put in 300 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:51,040 subsidiary basement apartments. And I I'm just thinking back to past years, if 301 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:55,320 people wanted to if they had their apartment deregistered and then wanted 302 00:21:53,520 --> 00:22:00,640 to register it again, they'd have to upgrade it to existing standards. 303 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:03,320 So, would that apply to the funding that we're giving, the grants that we've been 304 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:07,600 giving out under the Housing Accelerator Fund, they 305 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:10,920 would have to meet this this new building code or this this 306 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:14,400 national building standard here? >> Or is that just egress? 307 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:21,400 » I believe they would have to meet that as well, but it's not an onerous 308 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:25,040 standard to meet. Tier two is is fairly basic with most modern homes. 309 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:32,240 » Further thoughts, anybody or everybody? Hearing none, I'll call the question. 310 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:36,680 Then, all in favor? Opposed? And we've adopted it. Thank 311 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,680 you. 312 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:42,480 » Thank you. Our next one is I want to give an update on our capital work 313 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:45,880 capital work projects that's happening around the city. 314 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:49,400 Uh so, this is just for information purposes only. So, Farrell Drive 315 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,560 pumphouse upgrades construction is ongoing on that project is around 80% 316 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:58,480 complete. Our 2025 concrete works 317 00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:03,640 uh construction is around 99% complete. Uh work is ongoing. Our White Boulevard 318 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:07,560 upgrades construction is 85% complete on that project and work is ongoing up on 319 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:11,480 that project. Our sewage lift station, which is on Mount Carson Avenue, 320 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:16,360 construction is ongoing on that one. That one is around 99% complete. Jackman 321 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,960 Drive upgrades, if you've been over in that area, you can certainly see that 322 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:24,680 they're moving along with that project and that one is around 80% complete. Uh 323 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:30,480 work is ongoing. Uh our water tower access road construction is 85% complete 324 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:35,480 and work is ongoing on that project. Our water storage tank, which is our design 325 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:39,040 build construction, is 64% complete. Work is ongoing on that project as we 326 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:43,120 speak. Our Trailway Crossing Commonwealth Avenue construction is 85% 327 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:49,440 complete. Work ongoing and hopefully have that open up in the next couple of 328 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:55,160 weeks. Our 2026 our 2028 street markings is 85% complete. Work is ongoing on that 329 00:23:52,040 --> 00:24:02,040 project as well. And our 2026 asphalt services uh work is expected to start in 330 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:05,080 August of 20 26. That's it for that one project. That's the end of the report. 331 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,680 » a question. Councilor Rice, yeah. 332 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,840 » Just a quick question. I'm sorry because I get this I I get this question almost 333 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:16,880 daily and you know what I'm going to ask. I think Councilor Rice said it 334 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:21,320 though. The Trailway Crossing, is it 85% complete? You said in a couple of weeks, 335 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:25,480 so we we think we'll have it done before September 1st. All right. I know it's 336 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,240 almost there. I I stopped doing some electrical work the other day, so I'm 337 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,000 looking forward to see that done. But people do ask cuz one or two people 338 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,560 watch. I want to know what to ask that 339 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:38,000 question. Thank you. >> Is that a question or just commentary? 340 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:44,960 » I have a question, but go you go first, Councilor Rice, unless you're continuing 341 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:44,960 your report. 342 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,480 » I can go back to you. Does it matter? No, I I just wanted to add to that one 343 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,200 that we had some work there that Lake and Power had to do down in that area 344 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,280 for uh because there are two uh poles that are 345 00:24:55,280 --> 00:25:00,080 going to go that's going to carry the uh I guess the 346 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:04,560 sign is out over the street there. We're too close to the wires, but those wires 347 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:08,080 have been moved. Moved up and uh so hopefully now over the next couple of 348 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,520 weeks we'll get the uh pole bases down and everything will move along there and 349 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,080 get the crosswalk put in. So, that's the next plan. 350 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:18,960 » Sounds good. No, I'm good. Thank you very much. Anybody else? 351 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:22,680 Um let's move on, sir, to I guess you're going to occupancy. Are you? 352 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,760 » Yeah, okay. >> So, these are already pre-approved by 353 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:29,200 our director of engineering. Uh so, I just want to uh 354 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:34,560 just read that anyway. Occupancy permit listing from uh June the 1st to July uh 355 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:38,320 31st, 2026. You'll see four there in your kit. 356 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:43,360 And that's that just for information purposes only. 357 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:48,560 And our next one is our building I got to open up here. 358 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:52,040 Next one is our building uh permit listing, which is also 359 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:56,440 pre-approved. This one runs from June the 1st to July the 31st. 360 00:25:54,600 --> 00:26:00,040 And you see uh quite the substantial amount there. There's 85 listed off in 361 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,680 our kit there. And they range in uh from accessory 362 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,800 buildings to patio, decks, verandas, uh basically 363 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:12,440 uh you know, home round Most of these are 364 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:16,920 actually uh that are renovations or I guess they're uh putting new decks on, 365 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:21,520 verandas, exterior renovations around their homes. As you know, Mount Pearl is 366 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:25,320 an aging uh city. So, we got uh retaining walls and fences being 367 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:28,400 repaired. It's nice to see actually uh residents keeping up their properties in 368 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:32,760 the city. We got a certain standard here in the city and uh it's nice to see 369 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,880 these 85. And I'm encouraging every time I uh 370 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,880 you know, you're always got residents asking, you know, so you got to put in a 371 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:41,240 permit for that, right? And you know, you got to put in a permit and get a 372 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:45,840 permit and get it approved before you do it. If that's If that's a new shed, 373 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:49,560 extension to a house, or fence, retaining wall, or anything that's to do 374 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,880 with your property, you need to uh get a permit. And that's it for our report. 375 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,480 Thank you, Your >> Okay, thank you very much. We're going 376 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:59,120 to go to planning and development, Deputy Mayor Lock. 377 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:02,920 » Thank you, Mayor. Three items here. The first is stop development order 378 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:07,480 confirmation. A council decision is required here 379 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:12,000 to confirm an order to cease commercial activity at a residential property. 380 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,360 Pursuant to the Mount Pearl development regulations, council has the delegated 381 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,520 authority. Has the authority to delegate authority 382 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:23,840 to an employee of council to issue an order in accordance with our 383 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:28,520 regulations. And this order is required to be confirmed by a majority of council 384 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:32,160 at the next public meeting on July 23rd. Our director of planning and engineering 385 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,760 development issued the attached stop development order pursuant to a 386 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:40,280 delegated authority resolution of council. So, here we're just 387 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:45,600 recommending that council confirm the order to cease an unpermitted automated 388 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:51,680 automotive-related business. And this activity is taking place at 20 Gadwall 389 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,680 Place, and I so move. 390 00:27:54,560 --> 00:28:00,640 » Is there a motion required to confirm this order? I'm going to ask the 391 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,680 legislative officer just to make sure, right? 392 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,440 » I think so. >> Because if we delegated the authority to 393 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,400 the director, it still has to come here. Okay, just 394 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:13,800 making sure. I'm going to need Councillor Fry, I 395 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:18,680 think, to second that. And thank you for to both of you. Any further questions? 396 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,680 Councillor Rice. 397 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:25,320 » No, I'm glad this one is coming. This is happening happening quite frequently in 398 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:29,040 the city now, and I know we got other areas in the city that that, you know, 399 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,480 residents think they're sticking up right in a commercial or business out of 400 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:36,080 their property, but that's not the case. I mean, we have several other areas as 401 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:39,680 well in the city that that this is happening, and it's not allowed in a 402 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,600 residential area. I'm glad this is coming through, and I drove over there 403 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:47,000 this afternoon, and I just want to have a quick look, and there was five or six 404 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:50,600 cars in the driveway in that area. So, something happening there and I'm I'm 405 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,200 glad, you know, our inspectors and our municipal enforcement, whoever's doing 406 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:57,520 the inspection on those are are traveling there and uh and reporting 407 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:01,080 that back. Uh this stuff is not you know, if you want to operate a garage or 408 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:04,600 something like that, you go to a proper location and set it up. So, uh that's 409 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,480 just my view on that one. And I'm glad this happening. Thanks. 410 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:12,160 » Yep, well said. You uh live in a residential area, you should be able to 411 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:15,320 enjoy living in a residential area, not living in a commercial area or have 412 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,680 commercial activity. I'm going to call the question. All in 413 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,480 favor? And those opposed? And that's carried. Thank you. 414 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:28,760 » Uh thank you, Mayor. Uh the next item is the St. John's urban regional urban 415 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:33,120 region regional plan amendment number 110 2025. This is an update here. 416 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:37,800 And it's again it's for the attention and consideration of my members of 417 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:42,680 council as well as the public. Um it's a public consultation summary regarding uh 418 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:46,880 the St. John's urban regional plan amendment. No objections were received 419 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:50,360 during the referral and consultation process 420 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:54,400 of this urban regional plan uh which closed on August 10th of 2026. In 421 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,120 summary, the city received four responses 422 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:00,920 from our neighboring municipalities, CBS, St. John's, Bay Bulls, Portugal 423 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:05,400 Cove, St. Philip's, and none of the responses raised any concerns nor 424 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,880 objections regarding the proposed provincial amendment. 425 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:12,040 We did, however, receive one email from a resident and they were seeking 426 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:16,640 clarification as to how this might impact their 427 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:20,080 individual residential property, but after discussing this with our staff, uh 428 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,800 the resident did not express any objection again to this proposed 429 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:27,520 provincial amendment. Now, next steps. It's a very thorough 430 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:33,560 process as we know here trying to get our municipal plan uh Mount Pearl's city 431 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:38,280 municipal plan updated. So, these are the required upcoming steps. 432 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:42,080 Um we await confirmation from the province regarding this proposed St. 433 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:45,520 John's urban region regional plan amendment. We're expecting that late 434 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,640 August. Then we're going to resubmit a revised 435 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:53,960 draft municipal plan and development regulations 436 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:57,800 spanning 2026 to 2036. This of course is based on internal revisions, the outcome 437 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,080 of the amendment that we just referenced, and response to general 438 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:05,960 commentary and review comments from the province. Um so we're expecting this by 439 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,160 mid-September. Then we're going to await section 15 440 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:13,760 release for the um municipal plan development 441 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:17,040 regulations 2026 to 2036 from the province. We're expecting that late 442 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,200 September. Then we'll proceed with the adoption of 443 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:24,680 our municipal plan development regulations by the by our public 444 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,200 council. Again, late September, early October. 445 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:31,800 Then we have to schedule and hold a joint public hearing. We're expecting 446 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:35,680 that in mid-October. Then we'll await the public commissioner's report, 447 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:39,680 council approval of our municipal plan development regulations, submit the plan 448 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:44,640 and regulations to the province for ministerial register registration. We're 449 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:48,480 expecting that in early November. Then we'll um 450 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:53,360 await uh ministerial registration letter from the province. Again, late November, 451 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:56,520 early December. And finally, publish the notice of registration in the 452 00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:00,800 Newfoundland and Labrador Gazette. And that's estimated at the end of December. 453 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:04,320 This will then conclude the required process. And the Mount Pearl uh the new 454 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:10,000 Mount Pearl municipal plan and development regulations for 2026 to 2036 455 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:13,720 will officially come into effect on the date that the notice of registration is 456 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:19,720 published in the Newfoundland and Labrador Gazette. So this is a very a 457 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:22,480 fullsome and and thorough process here. And we are following due process. So I 458 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,920 just wanted to provide that update there, Mayor. 459 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:35,080 And the last uh for our report is the um development permit listing 460 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:38,400 from uh June 1st to July 31st of 2026. And you can see that there are 11 listed 461 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,800 there. And um we're open any questions should 462 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:47,680 council have any questions on this. >> I think Councillor Antle does. 463 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,880 » Just a question and maybe uh we can answer this. I noticed this is 464 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:55,200 just for our FYI, right? But it stated June the 1st uh to 465 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,240 running through to July 20th. Is there any way we can have that earlier like 466 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:03,920 instead of having already happened? What's going to 467 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:03,920 happen? Is that a possibility? 468 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:11,360 Well, no. Well, this is uh this is uh development permit listings that are 469 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,080 happening like you know what? Open air assembly that happened on June the 16th. 470 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,280 There were hockey tournament that happened over top the road. I didn't 471 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,320 know that was happening. But if we had a known it if we have it beforehand. Is 472 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:25,560 there any way you can have it beforehand like it's going to happen in September? 473 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,960 No, I think things don't I'm asking instead of having it now as an FYI that 474 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:33,200 already happened. Like is an FYI that already happened. 475 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,720 I'd like to know what's going to happen. >> Well, I guess the only thing we could do 476 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:41,960 is if is show permits have been approved right up to today I'll say to exaggerate 477 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:46,600 the case perhaps. But we can't really forecast into the 478 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:50,960 future unless you're talking about an activity that was approved 479 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,960 that may happen in the future. But they're all future oriented, right? 480 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:59,640 Because when the permit's issued it's about to you're about to do something. 481 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:04,160 So, help me out here either director or CAO. I'm trying to answer Councillor 482 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:07,280 Antle it would in a practical way, but uh 483 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:11,200 could we get them earlier? Um or more up to date for lack of a 484 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:16,760 better word. I don't mean that to be critical. Just asking the question. 485 00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:23,560 » No, I mean listen. I we can certainly take it away. I I don't see um 486 00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:27,840 a procedural way to provide guaranteed advance notice of all permits issued 487 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:34,360 because our permits are processed based on event date. So, or activity date. So, 488 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:38,000 I I can't guarantee you that cuz we may not even be in receipt of the permit 489 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:41,879 application 2 months out from an event happening. We may only be able to issue 490 00:34:39,879 --> 00:34:45,080 the permit in that appropriate time period. So, unfortunately, I think we 491 00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:48,760 have to take that away and give it more consideration as to how we can achieve 492 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:53,000 and I know what you're asking for, but I I, you know, the it's a manual 493 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,200 process to deliver that and so we have to give that more consideration. 494 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,880 » Yeah, just to go back on that one. Like for the ball hockey tournament, that's 495 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:05,280 one I was just noticed that was happening on July the 9th. You know, and 496 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:08,160 this is a it was an FYI. Like I didn't I walked over it. I didn't know what was 497 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:12,160 happening. Is there any way that we know if something's happening in September? 498 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,200 It was going to be an FYI or October. Maybe it doesn't happen, but that'd be 499 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:19,080 nice to know if it's going to happen. Something like 500 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,120 » That's the takeaway, I think. That's the one you've got to 501 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:26,360 But I would ask this, um not for decision tonight, but to 502 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:29,800 Councillor Angel's point, if the if the report is being prepared the Friday 503 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:33,520 before the Tuesday, maybe the cut-off could be the Thursday before the council 504 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:38,720 meeting. And the spreadsheet, which I'm assuming this is what this is, could be 505 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:42,080 uh tabulated. The other issue, I think we're going to leave that in your hands 506 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,880 until next meeting. Uh Councillor Angel, that work for you? 507 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,920 Okay. Um that report was from Deputy Mayor Locker. You finished, sir? 508 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:56,520 » sir. Thank you. >> I'm going to move to round table. 509 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,520 Councillor uh Rice, please. 510 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,880 » No, just a couple things for me there. Uh I just wanted to uh 511 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:07,360 just wanted to add about the city website. Uh also, there's a couple 512 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:10,160 things I wanted to highlight actually, uh because a couple of people uh 513 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,680 residents called me about a couple of things happening in the city and one of 514 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:17,080 them was a citizen's alert about signing up for the citizen alert. Anything 515 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:21,120 that's happening in the city, you get it through that uh 516 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,880 through that, you know, process there because you you once you sign up and 517 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,000 give your email, you'll get notification of it cuz a couple people mentioned to 518 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,520 me that they didn't know what was something was happening, but if you sign 519 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:34,040 up for that, you will get it. Also, the construction is notices are all up there 520 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:37,080 as well on the city site. Very important because I know we got lots of 521 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:42,320 construction happening now around the city. Uh you know, uh you over on uh 522 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:45,960 you know, up around Farrell Drive area is a lot of 523 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:50,360 stuff happening up in that area, so you know, uh same thing as well. And uh the 524 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,840 other the other one I want to mention is the Hey Mayor Pearl uh 525 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,200 Your Voice. So, you can go down that app and you can put actually on the Hey 526 00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,280 Mayor Pearl, you can actually click on the on the link there 527 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,480 and you can go in and give your opinion on stuff, upcoming stuff in the city. 528 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,880 So, I just want to That's it for me. Thank you. 529 00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:10,840 » Yeah, citizen alerts really valuable, especially for service notifications or 530 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:17,480 uh or emergencies. Um okay, so thank you, Councillor Race. 531 00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:17,480 Over to you, Councillor Fry. 532 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,520 » Thank you, Mayor. There are two things I want to speak 533 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,560 about tonight. The first one is something I think we'll all be 534 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:30,760 interested in and that's of course, e-bikes and uh scooter regulations. 535 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:34,320 As um as part of Municipalities Newfoundland 536 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:40,080 and Labrador, I've been involved with meeting with the province and the team, 537 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:44,920 Minister Goosney and his team there in terms of what how to go forward in 538 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:49,160 terms of regulating this. Of course, this is all so new. It's new technology 539 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,840 and we're still trying to trying to catch up with it. 540 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:57,040 But, everyone agrees that regulations are needed for for a number of reasons. 541 00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:02,160 I mean, first of all, you've got a lot of young people using these. They don't 542 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:07,000 know the rules of the road. They haven't applied for a permit and did a test and 543 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:12,800 then did their driver's training and then had to do another test. Like, it is 544 00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:15,560 kids are kids and of course, as kids, kids do things that they probably 545 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:21,000 shouldn't do. They don't have the fear, so we need regulations first of all to 546 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:25,040 keep them safe. But, also, I know after talking to a lot 547 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:29,560 of people over the last couple of weeks, especially, there are a lot of people 548 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:33,760 who have had near misses with people on e-bikes and e-scooters. I know I have. 549 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:39,400 And uh I can't imagine if I had hit somebody. I 550 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,760 mean, I would never be the same again. It would You know, that's something that 551 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:47,160 stays with you. So, we also, of course, need to protect the drivers as well. So, 552 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:52,360 I think we're moving in the right direction. I I I'm so impressed with uh 553 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,280 with Minister Goosney and his team. I believe they've taken this very 554 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:59,200 seriously, and they've done a lot of consultations and 555 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:02,880 a lot of research, and and that's including with e-bike manufacturers, and 556 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,640 and I've learned a few things about that, too. 557 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:10,320 So, the province has now launched a public 558 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:14,560 engagement survey, and this is focused on strengthening road safety, including 559 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:19,320 the regulation and safe operations of e-bikes and e-scooters. 560 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:22,600 So, I encourage people to go into that site 561 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:26,880 and participate in the survey and share their views on how road safety can be 562 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:31,000 improved for all users. And I do believe that we're going to get a lot of similar 563 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:35,760 things, you know, like a lot of repeat things, but there's probably going to be 564 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:38,840 one or two those little gems in there that's going to make a difference. So, 565 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,600 everybody's Everybody's views are important there. 566 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,720 And the survey can be found at engageNL.ca. 567 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:49,720 And uh this stems from growing public discussions across the province 568 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:53,480 regarding e-bike and e-scooter safety. And it includes concerns raised by 569 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:57,920 municipalities, residents, and law enforcement. So, of course, the city of 570 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:01,440 Mount Pearl will also complete a survey as it's open to municipalities as well 571 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:07,000 as the general public. And uh I I'd strongly encourage people 572 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:11,000 to uh to have their say. And this is this is new. It's kind of like when 573 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:14,040 seatbelt regulations first came in. You know, nobody wanted it, but now it's 574 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,120 just now it just keeps us all safe and it's 575 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:22,320 just um a habit. So, we're at a place now where 576 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:27,640 this is coming into play and it's something that people should should have 577 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:30,800 their have their voices heard. So, that's one thing I wanted to talk 578 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:34,000 about there. I don't know if anybody else wanted to comment. 579 00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:42,400 The other thing I wanted to talk about is um 580 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,000 I've as you guys all know, I'm an animal 581 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:49,600 lover. And I've had a number of residents reach 582 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:54,360 out to me over the summer with concerns that our animal when when they call in, 583 00:40:52,280 --> 00:41:00,360 if they if they've captured a stray animal, when they call in, they're told 584 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:04,400 that we don't collect stray animals if they're in custody. 585 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:08,240 So, this this got some people shaking their heads 586 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:11,520 because I mean, if you see a stray cat, you're going to 587 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:15,280 entice them somewhere, enclose them, and then call animal 588 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,520 regulations and say, "Please come get this." 589 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:22,680 But, they're being told now, "If you have If you have the animal, 590 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:25,840 we're not coming to take it." So, this is something of concern. I just bring it 591 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:30,240 forward because I've had a number of residents reach out to me on this. 592 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:36,440 This is the season when the you know, you've got a lot of animals roaming and 593 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:40,640 they're we're coming into kitten season, and you don't want an excess of animals 594 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:44,160 on the streets. Plus, you also don't want, you know, for 595 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:48,160 the safety of the animals as well. So, this is something I just wanted to bring 596 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:51,720 forward for future discussion. I just wanted to table it here today and and 597 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:55,000 let residents know that this is something on our radar and we're going 598 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,480 to revisit it. And that's it for me, Your Worship. 599 00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:01,240 Thank you. >> Yeah, I guess part of your plea is is it 600 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:05,040 something new we're doing or not doing, whatever the case may be, but 601 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:11,040 yeah, it's nice to be able to communicate that to residents. 602 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:16,480 » We used to We used to collect animals. Um and I believe it changed in 2019. So, 603 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,760 I'm just asking that it be revisited because this is something, you know, 604 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:24,040 like I said, we don't want we don't want animals on on the street and you've got 605 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:28,240 all these good Samaritans who are collecting and are trying to save 606 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:32,920 animals and trying to get them off the street. And if people won't come and if 607 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,080 our if our if our 608 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,160 bylaws say that we won't go collect them, what are they going to do with 609 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:43,240 them? Put them back out on the street. And we don't want that. So, um I just 610 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,320 wanted to bring it forward and have it revisited. 611 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,200 Thank you. >> So, the direction is will staff take it 612 00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:52,520 away? I think that's what I'm sensing, right? That's your plea? Yeah, good 613 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:56,360 stuff. Okay, thanks so much. Over to Deputy Mayor. 614 00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:00,000 » Uh thank you, Mayor. Two quick things. Well, the first about the e-bikes, I 615 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:04,040 won't go on at length because I'm uh Councillor Fry summarized it uh 616 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:08,240 nicely there. I'm just delighted to see the province uh 617 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:12,480 you know, taking an initiative and and and reaching out seeking feedback, but 618 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:16,080 as Councillor Fry said, I think I think there's going to be significant 619 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:20,120 overlap um in the responses. So, I I await that. Um 620 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,240 I also want to just extend the congratulations to the event Sunday, the 621 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,680 uh the Sunset Market out here out front. I 622 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,720 mean, people were just they were charmed. I got to say. Um so many people 623 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,640 came and said, "What a lovely event." It was pop-up. Some people said, "I didn't 624 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:37,800 know about it. I heard the music. I was over the tennis courts. I decided to 625 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:42,680 drop down." The music was great. The um the food was great. The uh you 626 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,840 know, all the vendors. So, I just want to extend congratulations Director 627 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,520 Collins and others who were involved in that 628 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:52,840 uh making that such a success. That's it for me, Mayor. Thank you. 629 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:56,520 » Thank you. And over to you, Councillor Antle, and 630 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:59,960 uh let's talk about e-bikes. Go ahead. >> I I have a 631 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,560 two things to talk about. One, I'll talk about e-bikes, believe it or not. I just 632 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:07,680 filled out Engage NL. I have a call in to the minister. and to 633 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:11,520 chat with the minister because I I am on a knee bike. 634 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,840 And I'm I'm on the bike and trail every week every day. 635 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,440 And I stopped talking to people most times to ask them about how they feel 636 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,440 about e-bikes. And a lot of people do we have to 637 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:24,760 there's distinguish between e-bikes. E-bikes are pedal assisted e-bikes and 638 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:28,360 e-bikes without pedals. And we got to make sure that we're not 639 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:31,520 going to ban e-bikes that pedal assisted. I think I know minister even 640 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,320 said we're not looking for a banning e-bikes with pedals. Pedal assisted 641 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:39,600 bikes I mean we got to there's car what is two there's a big difference. 642 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:44,160 And I won't go on about that too much. But you know Sunday when I went up from 643 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:48,400 my house to CBS 90% of the bikers were e-bikers on the trails and they were 644 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:52,640 following rules of the road. Now I'll get to my topic and I'll just 645 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:56,760 get into that. I was up on uh Saint David's and I contacted a 646 00:44:54,720 --> 00:45:00,560 counselor Wednesday or Thursday last week with my grandchildren. 647 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:04,080 And when I went there there was six youngsters and they were they were 648 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:08,200 electric dirt bikes or whatever these called pedal they never had no pedals. 649 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,440 And they were going across Saint David's field 650 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,240 in the parkway and I'd say they were doing 40 or 50 km an hour. They were 651 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:17,840 flying. I mean there was youngsters all over the field. My youngsters were 652 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,480 there. My grandchildren were there. There was other children there playing. 653 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:24,520 We our parks our parks and rec were playing with 654 00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:28,480 their kids. I contacted our CEO and I said this is terrible. I mean this is we 655 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:31,200 have to do something. So I stopped I chatted with other parents while I was 656 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:36,480 there. And a lot of people don't realize that 657 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:41,760 these motor these e-bikes without motors are not legal here in the city of Mount 658 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:45,840 Pearl. They can be confiscated. So one of our MEOs came by and I chatted 659 00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:50,040 with one of our MEOs and we talked about this like they can confiscate these 660 00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:53,960 bikes. I think what we have to do is let parents know like right up front they're 661 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:58,120 illegal in the city of Mount Pearl and we can confiscate them. They're in our 662 00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:02,880 bylaws. We had them sent out today that our bylaw states that we can confiscate 663 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:08,560 motorized vehicles within city of Mount Pearl. And e-bikes without pedals can be 664 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:12,440 confiscated. I think what we need to do is put a on our website, on our 665 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,600 Facebook, that we're going to start confiscating these bikes. Parents need 666 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,600 to know they're illegal in the city of Mount Pearl. Somebody's going to get 667 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,800 hurt. The bylaws, like Counselor Friel just said, the minister's working on 668 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:26,440 something. But our bylaws are already in the city. 669 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:30,720 Our MEOs can pick up a bike and confiscate that bike. Now, as regards to 670 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:34,920 scooters, I don't know how the scooters work. But the scooters are just as 671 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:37,960 dangerous as If they don't have pedals, someone's going to get hurt on these 672 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:41,320 bikes. But right now, we already have the bylaws in our city that we can 673 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:45,000 confiscate the bikes. I think what we need to do is put out a some kind of 674 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:48,920 notification within the next 30 days or next 2 weeks, we're going to start 675 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:52,240 confiscating. And I think that will stop people from using Parents don't know 676 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:56,200 that they're illegal. Yeah. I was up in Costco 677 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:59,600 a couple of days ago. They're selling scooters now for I won't say the price, 678 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,440 but they're selling People are buying them all over the place. Parents need to 679 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,360 know they're illegal in the city of Mount Pearl. And however we do that, we 680 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,760 can put a sign on the beginning of We have signs all the times. 681 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,760 Yeah. And And you know, that's uh 682 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,720 me on e-bikes. So, anybody else? >> passionate. You're a bit of a cyclist 683 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:18,640 from what I understand. >> I'm on the e-bike. I talked to lots of 684 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:22,520 people in the city, right? You know, my age around the e-bikes, and I contacted 685 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,840 I put on the Engage NL, and I put a sign my name, and I said you can give me a 686 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:29,120 call. I talked to e-bikes. You can go down on the trail, and I just rode my 687 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,640 bike across the walk, and I talked to people on the e-bikes. 688 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:36,880 And I stress that. I think any of us are looking We don't want to ban e-bikes. 689 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:42,360 Pedal-assisted e-bikes are what are safe. It's the speed and these motorized 690 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,040 dirt bikes have to be banned. And we have the laws in place to confiscate 691 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,840 them. And that's my rant on that one. 692 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:52,320 » Unfortunately, we don't Well, it depends on the classification. Electric dirt 693 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:55,800 bikes, these little guys that go, you know what I mean? Like like the old 694 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:59,000 Yammie, remember the old Yammies? They are classified as off-road vehicles in 695 00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:03,280 the city of Mount Pearl and they are enforceable. Right now e-bikes with 696 00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:07,840 pedals and e-scooters are permitted within the city because to see a sign 697 00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:11,880 doesn't always define what the regulation is and the regulations don't 698 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:15,080 necessarily back that up and we're trying to coordinate with the province 699 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:19,800 and I got the CAO and I saw the corner of my 700 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:24,200 eye Deputy Mayor Lock. Can you expand on that as I know we had some notes done up 701 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:28,800 and but Councillor is right, speed is the issue. I'm not sure I agree with him 702 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:33,040 on the pedal assist bikes but e-scooters and e-bikes it's free range 703 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:37,960 unfortunately. Is that a fair statement unless we ban them specifically just 704 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,960 from our infrastructure? 705 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:47,760 » Um listen, no doubt that this is a topic of interest particularly with the news 706 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:51,360 as of late. So the city is working on a submission 707 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,840 outlining many of the concerns raised here today but Mayor is right. It's very 708 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:59,360 clear legislatively in our own regulations around e-bikes without 709 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:04,400 pedals because they don't have to propel they cannot operate on a propel assist. 710 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:08,640 So we do have regulations support that we do not have the support of 711 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:14,440 regulations for e-scooters or e-bikes and so at this point in time 712 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:18,640 any enforcement is limited in terms of what we can do as a municipality so we 713 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,360 have to work with the province. We have to govern 714 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:27,400 we have to work from a governance and advocacy perspective to find a path 715 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:31,360 forward on that. So we're doing what we can. We are enforcing the regulations 716 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:36,040 that are within our control. So for example helmets helmets are required 717 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:41,440 under our current regulations and our municipal enforcement team have been 718 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:46,000 enforcing helmet regulations and requirements more so and 719 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,640 and Director Collins has given this direction to his team 720 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:55,080 to ensure that we are stopping we are working with youth 721 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:59,240 for e-bikes e-dirt bikes, sorry. and It is all very complicated, but for e-dirt 722 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:02,160 bikes, we are we have given the direction to our 723 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,400 enforcement team to confiscate where appropriate, and if you're operating 724 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:11,360 outside of that to call a parent and ensure the parent comes to collect the 725 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:14,840 bike in those times. So, the challenge, you know, the challenge is around 726 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:17,360 enforcement of e-scooters and and e-bikes that have 727 00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:22,760 um pedal pedals with them because our 728 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:25,920 ability to enforce is limited. However, we are working more on an awareness 729 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:30,120 angle right now, and we're we're going to work with the province to support 730 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,000 better legislation that we can better enforce. 731 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,160 » I'm going to save you for last, Councillor Rental, because you started a 732 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,360 great conversation, but I think we've got two colleagues that want to speak, 733 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,000 and maybe more for all I know, but I'm going to go to Deputy Mayor Lock and 734 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,200 then Councillor Fry. >> Uh thank you, Mayor. I just further to 735 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,600 what Councillor Rental was saying, I I mean, he's dead on the money here, 736 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:53,560 but I think we got to get into the semantics because we're using the term 737 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:58,280 e-bikes, but and I think that's where the confusion comes, Councillor Rental. 738 00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,960 It's it's the e-motorcycle that we're we're concerned about because 739 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:04,080 I know I mean, I was reading here today some 740 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:08,560 information that was sent to us about micro-mobility devices. 741 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:13,960 And then the examples that were given here, e-bikes, pedal-assist bikes, 742 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:17,320 e-scooters, electric skateboards, and Segways. 743 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:22,000 But to me, what distinguishes an e-bike from a pedal-assist bike? In my mind, 744 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:25,360 they're the same. It's the e-motorcycles is what we're 745 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:29,720 I think what what you're referring to here, right? But 746 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:33,680 or electric dirt bike, right? But, you know, a bicycle a 747 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:36,920 The pedal-assist is what we permit. As long as you got pedals that you can 748 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:41,240 propel with your feet, that's what's permissible. 749 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:45,080 Of course, and I said that a couple of weeks ago, that I'm on the trail 750 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:50,440 sometimes, and people on you know, you know, mountain bikes that 751 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:54,960 aren't e electric, they're exceeding the speeds on our trails. So, you know, but 752 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:58,120 we need to we and I'm sure the province is going to do this, they need to 753 00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:02,440 clarify to your point, Councillor Randell, so that parents know what's 754 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:05,400 legal, what's not. What's not legal in the city of Mount 755 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,800 Pearl. Thank you, Mayor. Councillor Fry. And Councillor Racey, 756 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,680 are you next in the queue or you want to wait? You going to You're going to pass 757 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:16,000 for now. I think it's all being discussed. Councillor Fry and then 758 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:20,120 Councillor Randell. >> I just wanted to add because there was 759 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:25,160 one thing that I I learned this week. These uh scooters, you know, the ones 760 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:30,920 that kids have, they come in factory uh from the factory at set at 30 km/h. 761 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:35,400 That's what is recommended, 30 km/h. But apparently, there's a way you can, I 762 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:40,840 don't know, YouTube it or something and this is what kids are doing. There's a 763 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:45,840 way to override that 30 km/h. So, now you've got these scooters that should be 764 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:50,520 going 30 km/h and they're going much, much faster. So, that's one of the 765 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:54,120 things that we need to keep in mind, too, when you're talking 766 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:59,080 about speeds and and e-scooters. Like, there's You've got the ones from the 767 00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:04,120 factory that are 30 km and then others that can go much faster. 768 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:09,280 Uh I also wanted just to to I think uh CAO Rideout hit the ball hit the nail 769 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:12,920 right on the head because in terms of regulation, we need provincial 770 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:17,240 regulation. We need to keep it consistent across across the province 771 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:22,080 across municipal boundaries. And by having provincial regulation, that will 772 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:26,800 help in terms of enforcement and giving more more clout to enforcement. And uh 773 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:31,680 that's all I just wanted to say. I just I was fascinated about the I was down at 774 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:36,160 the e-bike shop and they have what they call moto bikes or something and they 775 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,920 look really amazing. There was one there like $20,000. 776 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:43,280 But it is I mean, there's the technology is there and one of something else that 777 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:48,440 he said that I found was interesting, too. He said, "This is new here, but 778 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:52,440 people tourist come and they want to rent these bikes because they've they're 779 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:56,360 so used to having them in other parts of Canada that when they come, they know 780 00:53:54,680 --> 00:54:02,000 how to use them and that's that's their mode of transportation. So, we're just a 781 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:05,360 little bit uh I guess a little bit later getting it here, but it's like the 782 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,400 Cabbage Patch effect, you know, one kid gets it, everybody else wants one, 783 00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:10,640 right? >> Now, you're dating yourself. 784 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,760 » Yeah. >> Coun. Tilley, 785 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:16,200 you stared at this. >> How do you want to finish, sir? 786 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:20,400 » Just on a high note. I talked to some kids that use scooters and I thought 787 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:23,920 this was fabulous. Couple of scooters, like you can leave my house for any 788 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:27,520 Mount Pearl now and you can take these scooters and that's what they're 789 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:31,400 planning to do, go right to university, 10 km from Mount Pearl, 10 km on our 790 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:34,320 trails and it's nice trails and they can take the scooters, put them in their 791 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:37,920 backpack and put them in the locker. So, it's ideal for university students. 792 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:42,560 There is a way we can keep these scooters and work with these. Like the 793 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:46,320 mayor said, speed is the key. 20 km on our trails, that's it. If you do 20 km, 794 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:50,080 with something director Collins, we both have e-bikes and you know, we do speed 795 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:54,600 them at 20 km. It's no problem. I have an e-bike, my son has a regular bike, I 796 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:58,440 cannot keep up with him. I have an e-bike, my bike tops out at 28 km, it 797 00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:02,240 won't go any faster in life. I can't keep up with Ryan. This is just 798 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:05,480 impossible. It's just So, it's it's speed. Any other I'll go on and that's 799 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:09,160 it. So, we can go on that. My last one is really uh it's good news. 800 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:13,720 And I think we need to send out a letter congratulations to Read Music. 801 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:17,760 Junior and Junior Reed are celebrating 35 years of successful business here in 802 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:21,000 the city of Mount Pearl. Junior and Junior started our business 803 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,680 off here on number three Commonwealth Avenue, all right? And one they had one 804 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,400 little office there off Amulree Electric. 805 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:31,240 That's where he started, a little tiny office. It was just They had a couple of 806 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:34,240 guitars and a piano and they started off 35 years ago. 807 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:38,560 And now you look at them, they're over on Topsail Road, they have the I think 808 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:41,560 the top floor, they have classes. They have 809 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:45,760 I've taught so many people how to play music here in City Mount Pearl. 810 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:50,480 If any time we want any kind of donation, you call Junior and Janior and 811 00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:53,360 they're there right away. So, for 35 years successful business here in City 812 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,840 Mount Pearl, congratulations from almost, I'm sure, and a nice letter from 813 00:55:54,920 --> 00:56:00,160 the City Mount Pearl would be nice. And uh maybe we can drop over and uh 814 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,000 drop it off to him. And that's everything from me, Your Worship. Thank 815 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,000 you. >> Consider it done. I'm going to finish 816 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:08,960 with a few thank yous. Thank you to Carrie Hotter in our community city 817 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:14,040 communications for putting together all these great e-bike and e-scooter and 818 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:17,600 e-messaging uh for the city. Thank you very much uh 819 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:22,120 Carrie. Uh thank you to council and staff for um Mount Pearl putting the 820 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:26,320 initiative in through MNL to uh put a resolution on the table so that 821 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:29,720 Councillor Fry, who's the vice president of MNL and is also, I think, head of 822 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:33,520 advocacy, uh could meet with Minister Goosney 823 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:38,240 along with her colleagues at MNL. Um but I can also give you an update. I think 824 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:42,160 the minister is very confident in the process and it's going to be very 825 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:46,360 thorough, but there are timelines. And he, I believe, mentioned to me yesterday 826 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:50,680 that they're hoping to bring in some legislation the fall. They're they're 827 00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:55,400 not dithering cuz he's not just hearing it, say, from the City of Mount Pearl. I 828 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,840 think all quarters are are speaking to it. 829 00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,720 Um and I think CAO, we talked about 830 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:04,240 setting up a meeting with Minister Goosney just to follow up our 831 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:07,600 engagement. I believe we would have no trouble getting Councillor Antle to go. 832 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:11,520 Yeah. So. With that in mind, uh 833 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,560 thank you everybody for your attention, your discussion of the issues, and 834 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,960 giving up um um the evening of your Tuesday, which is 835 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:21,760 a quite evening outdoors, and I'm going to now call for a motion, please, to 836 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:25,560 adjourn the meeting. Moved by Councillor Fry, seconded by Councillor Rice.