[0:17] Hi everybody and welcome to our council [0:19] meeting. We're getting through. It's the [0:21] middle of August. The weather is great [0:23] and council you see before you [0:26] an agenda and I don't see anything out [0:28] of the kid. Although I do some see some [0:29] messaging about e-bikes and e-scooters. [0:31] Should be a good conversation hopefully [0:32] tonight. So to adopt the agenda I need a [0:35] motion and moved by Councillor Fry. [0:36] Thank you and seconded by Councillor [0:38] Deputy Mayor Lock. All in favor? Those [0:40] opposed? And that's carried. Um [0:44] in recognition of the city of Mount [0:46] Pearl's commitment to foster respectful [0:48] and collaborative relationships with [0:49] indigenous peoples here in the city of [0:51] Mount Pearl and beyond. [0:53] We hereby acknowledge that the land on [0:55] which we gather is the ancestral and [0:57] unceded territory of the Beothuk and the [0:59] Mi'kmaq. Mount Pearl and the broader [1:01] metro region continue to be home to [1:03] diverse indigenous peoples including [1:07] First Nations, Inuit and Métis. [1:12] Once said a minute's there an action [1:13] report from July 26th before we discuss [1:17] any business arising council need your [1:19] approval for these minutes. So any [1:22] errors or omissions? [1:25] All good? [1:26] Everybody good? [1:28] All right. Calling for motion moved by [1:30] Councillor Rice and seconded by [1:31] Councillor Antle that we approve those [1:33] minutes. All in favor? [1:34] And opposed? And that's carried. [1:36] Business arising please quote the number [1:39] in the minutes or the action report. [1:45] No business arising tonight. There is no [1:47] proclamations. There's no presentations [1:50] or correspondence but we do have [1:52] corporate services [1:54] and I believe taking the lead there will [1:55] be Councillor Antle. You're yours. [1:58] >> Thank you, Your Worship. And now we have [2:00] to pay our bills. We have a lot of work [2:01] to do in the city. [2:03] And the first one is our payment [2:04] register for August 18th, [2:07] 2026. And for the payment register for [2:10] July 1st to the 31st, 2026 for the for a [2:14] total of 4,572,818.56. [2:18] And the purchase card report from May [2:20] 28th, 20 May 28th, 2026 to June 25th, [2:25] 2026 for a total of 445,060.59. [2:30] And if you look at your kit there on the [2:33] uh [2:35] items to pay, there's a few large ones [2:38] there, one in particular for Dexter [2:39] Construction for $797,000. [2:42] That's up there on Jackman Drive. [2:44] And there's three different to the city [2:45] of St. John's for our regional services, [2:47] and they total for $700,000 or [2:49] thereabouts. And you can see in your [2:51] kit, and they're all good, and I so [2:53] move. [2:54] >> It is moved by Councillor Antle and [2:56] seconded by Deputy Mayor Lock. Any [2:58] questions? [3:01] Hearing none, I'll call for approval of [3:03] the payment register and purchase card [3:04] report. All in favor? Contra-minded? [3:08] Thank you. Carried. [3:09] >> And number two has to do with [3:11] professional development. And you know, [3:13] with professional development, I guess I [3:14] stated there last uh 2 weeks ago, it's [3:17] so good for us to be able to travel [3:18] around to different parts of the country [3:19] to see what other communities are doing, [3:21] what other councilors are doing. [3:23] And this one has to do with economic [3:24] development, and that's for myself. And [3:26] the Economic Development Association [3:28] this year is going to be held in Moncton [3:30] from September the 14th to the 7th from [3:32] September 14th to 7th, 2026. And I so [3:36] move. [3:37] >> Thank you for the motions, Councillor [3:39] Antle and Deputy Mayor Lock. This is in [3:40] accordance with policy, and even though [3:42] it's not routine, it does come It is [3:44] routine, but it does come to this table [3:45] for approval. [3:46] All in favor? [3:48] And those opposed? And that's carried, [3:50] thanks. [3:53] » And our next professional development, [3:55] this is really good to see. It's for [3:57] Deputy Mayor Locke for the Atlantic [3:59] Planners Institute and this is held in [4:01] PEI and it's really good to get together [4:03] with other planners and I'm sure our [4:05] planners will learn this is a great [4:06] conference to take an effect and it [4:08] starts from October 7th to the 9th, 2026 [4:11] and I so move. [4:14] >> Again, moved by Councillor Antle, [4:15] seconded by the Deputy Mayor. All in [4:17] favor? [4:18] Opposed? Nets carried as well. [4:22] » And uh number four is a professional [4:25] development request. This is for Mayor, [4:27] Deputy Mayor and all counselors, I would [4:29] think. Well, no, I'm sorry, it's for [4:31] Counselors Fry and Antle and this is for [4:33] MNL here in St. John's. All right, and [4:35] this is a great conference on November [4:37] 5th to the 7th and we're very lucky to [4:39] have the uh Vice President of MNL here [4:41] in our chambers as well as Councillor [4:43] Fry. This is a great uh [4:46] opportunity for us to chat with other counselors and this [4:50] goes from November 5th to the 7th and I [4:53] so move. [4:55] >> Again, moved by Councillor Antle, [4:56] seconded by Deputy Mayor for these four [4:58] members of our council to go to MNL in [5:01] the fall. All in favor? [5:03] Opposed? Carried, thanks. [5:10] » And another professional development [5:12] request for our CAO, Cassie Rideout, to [5:14] attend the same conference, MNL here in [5:16] St. John's and I so move. [5:19] >> Moved and seconded. All in favor? [5:21] Opposed? Thank you, carried. [5:25] >> And number six is another professional [5:27] development training and again, it's a [5:28] fabulous to see. It's for our Director, [5:30] Jason Collins, to handle a [5:33] recreation and community safety event at [5:35] Sombra 2026 [5:37] in Shediac, New Brunswick from September [5:40] the 8th to the 11th and I so move. [5:43] >> Again, moved by Councillor Antle, [5:45] seconded by Deputy Mayor Locke. All in [5:46] favor? [5:47] Opposed? Again, carried, thank you. [5:50] That's everything for corporate [5:51] services, your worship. Thank you. [5:53] Going to move on to the public works [5:55] report, and that is Councillor Fry, [5:57] please. [5:59] >> Thank you, your worship. [6:01] Our report this evening is just for [6:03] information purposes, just to give [6:05] everybody an update on what our crews [6:07] have been doing cuz they're very, very [6:08] busy and they work very hard. [6:10] Our roads division, the repairs on [6:12] maintenance holes, catch basins, curbs, [6:15] sidewalks, lawn, and and asphalt [6:17] continues. [6:19] And street sweeping is ongoing. For our [6:22] parks division, there's of course [6:24] maintenance on our our sports fields, [6:25] that continues. Our flower plant [6:28] planters and baskets have been installed [6:30] and they look amazing, too, by the way. [6:33] Uh our commemorative bench installations [6:35] and required maintenance, providing [6:37] ground maintenance for summer [6:39] tournaments, and that's busy this [6:41] summer. [6:42] Grass cutting throughout the city is [6:43] ongoing, providing support throughout [6:45] the summer for community events, court [6:48] resurfacing projects are underway and I [6:50] think people have seen those on social [6:52] media, they're doing a great job there. [6:54] And playground structures for Farrell [6:56] Drive and Branscombe Pond have arrived [6:59] and the installation will start uh soon [7:01] in late summer. [7:03] Our fleet division is ongoing uh ongoing [7:05] service and maintenance, and our UTM [7:08] division of course have their general [7:09] calls, their water and sewer repairs, [7:12] leak detection, which is always [7:13] important, fire hydrant inspection and [7:16] maintenance are ongoing, the water main [7:19] valve servicing and exercising, the lift [7:21] station inspections and maintenance, [7:23] catch basin and storm sewer cleaning, [7:26] and as always, you can see in your kit [7:28] here the water levels of Bable's Big [7:30] Pond as of August the 10th, taken a [7:33] little bit of a dip, but still quite [7:35] healthy. [7:36] And that's it for our report, your [7:37] worship. [7:39] Thank Thank very much. Now we're going [7:40] to turn to recreation and in the absence [7:44] of the Deputy Mayor Kylie, I should say, [7:47] who is on a leave of absence and without [7:49] Councillor Lane, I'm going to turn to [7:51] Councillor Fry and Councillor Rice. [7:56] » Always happy to talk about our [7:57] recreation department. [8:00] Okay, so we have a request for milestone [8:03] funding for an event for Ladies [8:05] Auxiliary Knights of Columbus for their [8:07] 50th anniversary and they're planning on [8:09] having an anniversary dinner. [8:12] Be it resolved that the requested [8:14] funding of $3,500 through milestone [8:16] event funding be released to the Ladies [8:19] Auxiliary Knights of Columbus once all [8:21] receipts have been submitted for their [8:23] 50th anniversary celebration dinner on [8:25] October the 24th. [8:28] So, the Ladies Auxiliary submitted a [8:30] request advising that they will hold a [8:32] dinner to celebrate the past and present [8:35] of the Ladies Auxiliary, [8:37] which was founded in 1976 as a church [8:40] ministry. [8:42] The ministry involved volunteering with [8:44] church functions, supporting food banks, [8:46] and providing assistance to the Knights [8:47] of Columbus with all their events. [8:50] The Ladies Auxiliary Knights of Columbus [8:52] is a long-standing and valued community [8:54] organization with a significant history [8:57] of contributions within the City of [8:59] Mount Pearl. [9:01] So, therefore, the committee recommends [9:03] approval to provide the Ladies Auxiliary [9:05] Knights of Columbus with written [9:07] confirmation [9:09] of the requested $3,500 for their 50th [9:12] anniversary celebration dinner on [9:13] October the 24th, 2026. [9:16] And furthermore, it is recommended that [9:18] the funds approved by council, $3,500, [9:21] be released once all receipts have been [9:23] submitted, ensuring the cost of the [9:25] event is or exceed the requested amount. [9:29] And I so move. [9:31] >> Thank you. Moved by Councillor Fry, [9:32] seconded by Councillor Rice. Any [9:34] comments? [9:35] Coming out of policy overdue, Councillor [9:37] Anstey. [9:38] >> Just a quick question. I'm a member of [9:40] Knights of Columbus. Am I in a conflict [9:42] on this, Your Worship? Thank you. [9:43] >> Only [9:44] if you are on the executive of the [9:45] ladies auxiliary. [9:47] >> I'm not, so I guess I'm good. Thank you. [9:51] » Further? [9:52] Call the question then. All in favor? [9:54] And those who are opposed? [9:56] None? Thank you. Carried. [9:58] >> Finally, for the recreation department, [10:00] is just some information notes here. [10:04] Information for the for the attention [10:06] and consideration of council and the [10:08] public. [10:09] Registration for swim lessons, the Mount [10:11] Pearl Seniors Independence Group fitness [10:13] programs, general recreation programs, [10:16] as well as the time and care programs [10:18] will open on the following dates. [10:20] The Mount Pearl Seniors Independence [10:22] Group fitness programs for Mount Pearl [10:24] residents is August 25th at 1:00 p.m. [10:27] And for non-residents, August 27th at [10:30] 1:00 p.m. [10:32] The general fitness programs, now of [10:34] course, proof of residency residency is [10:36] required for resident registration. [10:38] Mount Pearl residents will register for [10:40] general fitness programs on August the [10:42] 25th at 5:00 p.m. and non-residents, [10:45] August 27th at 5:00 p.m. [10:48] The time program, and this program [10:50] requires a referral before participants [10:53] can register. For Mount Pearl residents, [10:55] it's August 25th at 5:00 p.m. and [10:58] non-residents, August 27th at 5:00 p.m. [11:02] And our care program, this program also [11:05] requires a referral before participants [11:07] can register. [11:09] Again, Mount Pearl residents will [11:10] register on August 25th at 5:00 p.m. and [11:13] non-residents, August 27th at 5:00 p.m. [11:16] And swim lessons registration, of [11:19] course, this one's always popular. [11:21] And proof of residency is required for [11:24] resident registration here as well. [11:27] Mount Pearl residents will register for [11:29] this one on August the 31st at 5:00 p.m. [11:32] and non-residents September the 2nd at [11:35] 5:00 p.m. [11:36] As I mentioned, residents are required [11:38] to provide a valid proof of residency [11:40] prior to the registration date and [11:43] participants are encouraged to register [11:44] early as programs program spaces are [11:47] limited and may fill up quickly. [11:49] So, for more information, please visit [11:51] the city of Mount Pearl website. And [11:53] that's it for this report, Your Worship. [11:56] Thank you. [11:58] >> Thank you very much. Nothing for [11:59] community safety, this meeting, [12:01] engineering, Councillor Rice. [12:05] >> Thank you, Your Worship. Our first one [12:06] in our kit here tonight is a uh [12:10] is a contract award for electrical [12:12] maintenance services, which is our [12:13] TP-26-017. [12:17] So, uh the council uh approval is [12:20] requested to award the contract for [12:22] electrical services. This approval will [12:24] allow the city to engage in preferred [12:26] proponent [12:27] to complete electrical maintenance and [12:29] services throughout the city. [12:30] The tender for the electrical [12:32] maintenance services TP-26-017 [12:35] closed on July the 27th, 2026 [12:38] and four bids were received. The lowest [12:40] qualified bidder was Pro Circuit [12:42] Electrical Incorporated for the bid [12:44] amount of $129,375 [12:47] HST included. [12:49] So, this contract is for an initial [12:51] period of 3 years from September the [12:53] 1st, 2026 [12:55] until August the 31st, 2029. [12:58] The city reserves the right to extend [13:00] the contract by increments of 1 year for [13:02] a period of up to [13:04] not more than 2 years upon the same [13:06] terms and conditions provided both [13:08] parties agree. [13:09] So, planning, engineering, and [13:10] development recommends that the contract [13:12] for electrical maintenance services [13:14] TP-26-017 [13:16] be awarded to the lowest qualified [13:17] bidder [13:18] Pro Circuit Electrical Incorporated for [13:20] the bid amount of $129,375 [13:23] HST included for the period of September [13:26] the 1st, 2026 to August the 31st, 2029 [13:30] with the right to extend the contract by [13:32] increments of 1 year period for the [13:33] period of the not more than 2 years, and [13:36] I so move. [13:37] >> Move by Councillor Rice and seconded by [13:39] Councillor Antle. Any questions? [13:42] 3 to 5 years. It's like a sentence. [13:45] But it's a tender. [13:46] All in favor. [13:47] Those opposed. [13:49] Thank you, sir. It's carried. Over to [13:50] you for plumbing. [13:52] >> Thank you. Our second one is our [13:54] contract award for a plum plumbing [13:56] maintenance services TP-26-018. [14:00] So, this one council approval is also a [14:03] contract [14:04] required or requested for the plumbing [14:06] maintenance services. This approval will [14:08] allow the city to engage in preferred [14:10] performance to complete the plumbing maintenance and services [14:14] throughout the city. [14:16] Uh so, the background this one is the [14:18] tender for plumbing maintenance services [14:20] TP-26-018 [14:23] closed on July the 28th, 2026, and one [14:26] bid was received. The lowest qualified [14:28] bidder was King's Plumbing and Heating [14:30] Limited [14:31] for a bid amount of $60,375, [14:34] HST included. [14:36] Uh this contract is for initial period [14:38] of 3 years from September the 1st, 2026 [14:42] to August 31st, 2029. The city reserved [14:45] the right to extend the contract by [14:47] increments of 1 year for period of up to [14:49] not more [14:51] to no more than 2 years upon the same [14:52] terms and conditions provided both [14:55] parties agree. [14:56] So, the planning engineering development [14:59] recommends [15:00] that the contract for plumbing [15:01] maintenance services TB-26-018 [15:05] be awarded to the lowest qualified [15:06] bidder [15:07] King's Plumbing and Heating Limited for [15:09] the bid amount of $60,375, [15:13] HST included for the period of September [15:15] the 1st, 2026 until August the 31st, [15:18] 2029 with the right to extend the [15:21] contract by increments of 1 year for a [15:23] period of not more than 2 years and I [15:26] shall move. [15:27] >> Moved again by Council Rice, seconded. [15:29] Thank you by Council Antle. All in [15:31] favor? [15:31] >> Aye. [15:32] >> Those opposed? [15:33] Seeing no cut hands up and that's [15:36] approved. [15:42] » Our third one is our adoption of the [15:45] National Building Code 2025 part nine, [15:48] the energy efficient requirements. [15:51] Just a little background on this one. [15:53] The province of Newfoundland and [15:54] Labrador has adopted the 2025 National [15:56] Building Code. However, municipalities [15:59] retain authority to adopt part nine [16:01] residential energy efficiency [16:03] requirements [16:05] and determine the applicant energy [16:07] performance tier one [16:09] tier for one and two [16:12] family dwelling units. Council must [16:15] therefore determine whether the adoption [16:17] section 9.36, which is the energy [16:19] efficiency and establish an [16:22] implementation approach for the city of [16:24] Mount Pearl. [16:25] So background on this one. The 2025 [16:28] Building Code and National Fire Code [16:30] came into [16:31] force in Newfoundland and Labrador on [16:33] July the 12th, 2026. [16:35] While the province adopts most [16:38] provisions of the National Building Code [16:39] part nine residential require [16:42] part nine residential requirements [16:44] related to one and two family dwellings [16:47] remain subject to municipality [16:49] adoptions. As a result, municipalities [16:52] must independently determine whether the [16:54] adoption section 9.36 [16:57] energy efficiency efficiency and [17:00] establish the applicant applicable [17:04] minimum [17:05] compliance tier. So section 9.36 [17:09] introduced a five-tier residential [17:12] energy efficiency framework ranging from [17:14] tier one, which is the base compliance, [17:17] to tier five, which is the net zero [17:20] energy ready. [17:21] Uh so, the city of Mount Pearl, just a [17:24] second, I'll just get down to the bottom [17:25] here. The committee recommends that the [17:28] council adopt National Building Code [17:30] 2025 part nine, including section 3.3 [17:34] 9.36, [17:36] and the energy efficiency for one and [17:38] two family dwellings within city of [17:40] Mount Pearl, and establish tier two as [17:43] the initial mandatory compliance [17:45] standard. [17:46] Staff further further recommended [17:49] uh that council consider a future review [17:53] of tier tier three [17:55] implementation once municipal processes, [17:58] industry readiness, and staff capacity [18:01] have been established. Tier four and [18:03] tier five are not recommended at this [18:05] time, and I so move. [18:07] >> Again, moved by Councillor Rice, [18:09] seconded by Councillor Antle. [18:11] Come to you, Councillor Deputy Mayor [18:13] Lock. [18:14] >> Uh thank you, Mayor. [18:15] >> Thank you, Councillor Rice. [18:16] >> You know, just just for clarity here, I [18:18] know Councillor Rice indicated that [18:19] there's up to tier five tiers in this [18:22] particular uh part nine of the National [18:24] Building Code, and it seems that we're [18:26] only achieving [18:28] tier two of a possible five. And the [18:31] rationale for that, of course, is um I [18:33] mean, this will be mandatory [18:34] requirements if if and council discussed [18:36] this at large with with staff and based [18:38] on staff recommendations. [18:40] If we were to adopt mandatory tier five, [18:43] that would that would increase the cost [18:45] of housing tremendously. That it [18:47] wouldn't be it wouldn't be viable. So, [18:51] um we figured the most prudent thing to [18:52] do was tier up to tier two, which is [18:54] still energy efficient. I don't want to [18:56] get the I don't want the message out [18:57] there that Mount Pearl is sort of [18:59] reneging on energy efficiency and [19:00] climate initiatives, because we are not. [19:03] Uh so, we recognize, in consultation, [19:05] you know, with the the builders, that uh [19:08] most of the tier two requirements are [19:11] already being undertaken. So, by making [19:14] that mandatory in the city of Mount [19:15] Pearl, we're not causing any undue [19:17] hardship or any increased costs on [19:19] potential home buyers. With that said, [19:21] we have committed to review the [19:23] requirements for tier three in [19:25] consultation with the builders and the [19:28] experts in the field and our staff and [19:30] maybe we can move to adopt that in the [19:31] years to come. So, I just want to make [19:32] that point of a clarification there, [19:34] Mayor. Thank you. [19:35] >> Yeah, what's the staff? Director Bett, [19:37] are we one of the first to do this and [19:40] uh [19:41] how far ahead of everybody else are we? [19:43] Um I think it's a good thing as [19:44] Councillor Deputy Mayor Locke is saying, [19:46] but uh [19:47] um I'm glad to see the initiative being [19:49] undertaken by you and your department. [19:54] » Yeah, I'm not sure if we're one of the [19:55] first, but there's conversation around [19:56] municipalities on Northeast Avalon. [19:59] Um what approaches are being taken. Um [20:02] at a staff level, we've been [20:04] coordinating back and forth on where we [20:06] believe is the appropriate path. Uh [20:09] that's been communicated to the other [20:10] municipalities as well. But, as [20:13] Councillor Locke said, uh tier two is [20:16] uh [20:17] not far off from what we're already [20:19] achieving with most modern homes. So, [20:22] that's a good place to start with, you [20:24] know, ambition to move forward uh as we [20:27] understand the process more. [20:29] >> Would this apply to uh renovations or is [20:32] it just new builds? How does that [20:35] carry itself through the processes? [20:38] >> It is primarily new builds. Renovation [20:40] would have to classify for a certain [20:42] area to be renovated in order to comply. [20:45] Otherwise, it would be I'd say [20:47] grandfathered under prior building [20:49] codes. [20:51] >> Uh no, Councillor Angel, and then you, [20:53] Deputy Mayor. Sorry about that. No [20:54] worries. [20:56] >> Uh just a quick question. I know this [20:58] comes in effect in the province July the [21:00] 12th. When is it effective for the city [21:02] of Mount Pearl and does the builders get [21:04] some [21:05] a notification? Thank you. [21:09] » Yeah. [21:10] >> so after it's been adopted tonight, it [21:12] would be into effect. However, we [21:13] wouldn't we would give a grace period [21:15] and a notification period to developers [21:18] and contractors before we roll it out [21:20] officially. Um I'm expecting probably [21:22] late fall to make it uh a mandatory [21:25] compliance criteria. It'll give us some [21:27] time to get our forms and policies in [21:29] order uh to check to make sure this is [21:32] being achieved. [21:35] » Uh thank you, Director. Uh just for the [21:37] question, Mayor, based on on your [21:39] question earlier, I know we we give out [21:42] grants for people to upgrade, put in [21:43] subsidiary basement apartments. And I [21:46] I'm just thinking back to past years, if [21:48] people wanted to if they had their [21:51] apartment deregistered and then wanted [21:53] to register it again, they'd have to [21:55] upgrade it to existing standards. [21:58] So, would that apply to the funding that [22:00] we're giving, the grants that we've been [22:01] giving out [22:03] under the Housing Accelerator Fund, they [22:05] would have to meet this new building code or this this [22:09] national building standard here? [22:10] >> Or is that just egress? [22:15] » I believe they would have to meet that [22:17] as well, but it's not an onerous [22:19] standard to meet. Tier two is is fairly [22:21] basic with most modern homes. [22:26] » Further thoughts, anybody or everybody? [22:28] Hearing none, I'll call the question. [22:30] Then, all in favor? [22:32] Opposed? And we've adopted it. Thank [22:34] you. [22:37] » Thank you. Our next one is I want to [22:38] give an update on our capital work projects that's happening [22:42] around the city. [22:44] Uh so, this is just for information [22:45] purposes only. So, Farrell Drive [22:47] pumphouse upgrades construction is [22:49] ongoing on that project is around 80% [22:51] complete. [22:52] Our 2025 concrete works [22:55] uh construction is around 99% complete. [22:58] Uh work is ongoing. Our White Boulevard [23:00] upgrades construction is 85% complete on [23:03] that project and work is ongoing up on [23:05] that project. Our sewage lift station, [23:07] which is on Mount Carson Avenue, [23:09] construction is ongoing on that one. [23:11] is around 99% complete. Jackman [23:14] Drive upgrades, if you've been over in [23:16] that area, you can certainly see that [23:17] they're moving along with that project [23:18] and that one is around 80% complete. Uh [23:21] work is ongoing. Uh our water tower [23:24] access road construction is 85% complete [23:28] and work is ongoing on that project. Our [23:30] water storage tank, which is our design [23:32] build construction, is 64% complete. [23:35] Work is ongoing on that project as we [23:37] speak. Our Trailway Crossing [23:39] Commonwealth Avenue construction is 85% [23:41] complete. Work ongoing and hopefully [23:43] have that open up in the next couple of [23:44] weeks. Our 2026 our 2028 street markings [23:49] is 85% complete. Work is ongoing on that [23:52] project as well. And our 2026 asphalt [23:55] services uh work is expected to start in [23:58] August of 20 26. That's it for that one [24:02] project. That's the end of the report. [24:03] >> a question. [24:05] Councilor Rice, yeah. [24:06] >> Just a quick question. I'm sorry because [24:08] I get this I I get this question almost [24:10] daily and you know what I'm going to [24:11] ask. I think Councilor Rice said it [24:13] though. The Trailway Crossing, is it 85% [24:16] complete? You said in a couple of weeks, [24:19] so we we think we'll have it done before [24:21] September 1st. All right. I know it's [24:23] almost there. I I stopped doing some [24:25] electrical work the other day, so I'm [24:27] looking forward to see that done. But [24:29] people do ask cuz one or two people [24:30] watch. [24:32] I want to know what to ask that [24:33] question. Thank you. [24:34] >> Is that a question or just commentary? [24:39] » I have a question, but go you go first, [24:40] Councilor Rice, unless you're continuing [24:42] your report. [24:46] » I can go back to you. Does it matter? [24:47] No, I I just wanted to add to that one [24:48] that we had some work there that Lake [24:50] and Power had to do down in that area [24:52] for uh [24:53] because there are two uh poles that are [24:55] going to go [24:56] that's going to carry the uh I guess the [24:58] sign is out over the street there. We're [25:00] too close to the wires, but those wires [25:01] have been moved. Moved up and uh so [25:04] hopefully now over the next couple of [25:05] weeks we'll get the uh pole bases down [25:08] and everything will move along there and [25:09] get the crosswalk put in. So, that's the [25:10] next plan. [25:11] >> Sounds good. No, I'm good. Thank you [25:13] very much. Anybody else? [25:16] Um let's move on, sir, to I guess you're [25:18] going to occupancy. Are you? [25:20] >> Yeah, okay. [25:22] >> So, these are already pre-approved by [25:24] our director of engineering. Uh so, I [25:25] just want to uh [25:27] just read that anyway. Occupancy permit [25:29] listing from uh June the 1st to July uh [25:32] 31st, 2026. [25:34] You'll see four there in your kit. [25:36] And that's that just for information [25:38] purposes only. [25:40] And our next one is our building [25:43] I got to open up here. [25:46] Next one is our building [25:48] uh permit listing, which is also [25:50] pre-approved. This one runs from June [25:52] the 1st to July the 31st. [25:54] And you see uh quite the substantial [25:56] amount there. There's 85 listed off in [25:58] our kit there. [26:00] And they range in uh from accessory [26:02] buildings [26:03] to patio, decks, verandas, uh basically [26:07] uh [26:07] you know, home round Most of these are [26:09] actually uh that are renovations or [26:12] I guess they're uh putting new decks on, [26:14] verandas, exterior renovations around [26:16] their homes. As you know, Mount Pearl is [26:18] an aging uh city. So, we got uh [26:21] retaining walls and fences being [26:23] repaired. It's nice to see actually uh [26:25] residents keeping up their properties in [26:26] the city. We got a certain standard here [26:28] in the city and uh it's nice to see [26:30] these 85. And I'm encouraging every time [26:32] I uh [26:33] you know, you're always got residents [26:34] asking, you know, so you got to put in a [26:36] permit for that, right? And you know, [26:37] you got to put in a permit and get a [26:39] permit and get it approved before you do [26:41] it. If that's If that's a new shed, [26:43] extension to a house, or fence, [26:45] retaining wall, or anything that's to do [26:47] with your property, you need to uh get a [26:49] permit. And that's it for our report. [26:51] Thank you, Your [26:52] >> Okay, thank you very much. We're going [26:54] to go to planning and development, [26:55] Deputy Mayor Lock. [26:56] >> Thank you, Mayor. Three items here. The [26:59] first is stop development order [27:01] confirmation. [27:02] A council decision is required here [27:05] to confirm an order to cease commercial [27:07] activity at a residential property. [27:10] Pursuant to the Mount Pearl development [27:12] regulations, council has the delegated [27:14] authority. [27:15] Has the authority to delegate authority [27:17] to an employee of council to issue an [27:19] order in accordance with our [27:21] regulations. And this order is required [27:23] to be confirmed by a majority of council [27:25] at the next public meeting on July 23rd. [27:28] Our director of planning and engineering [27:29] development issued the attached stop [27:32] development order pursuant to a [27:34] delegated authority resolution of [27:35] council. So, here we're just [27:38] recommending that council confirm the [27:40] order to cease an unpermitted automated [27:43] automotive-related business. And this [27:45] activity is taking place at 20 Gadwall [27:48] Place, and I so move. [27:54] » Is there a motion required to confirm [27:57] this order? I'm going to ask the [27:58] legislative officer just to make sure, [28:00] right? [28:01] >> I think so. [28:01] >> Because if we delegated the authority to [28:03] the director, [28:05] it still has to come here. Okay, just [28:07] making sure. [28:08] I'm going to need Councillor Fry, I [28:10] think, to second that. And thank you for [28:13] to both of you. Any further questions? [28:16] Councillor Rice. [28:18] » No, I'm glad this one is coming. This is [28:20] happening happening quite frequently in [28:22] the city now, and I know we got other [28:25] areas in the city that that, you know, [28:27] residents think they're sticking up [28:29] right in a commercial or business out of [28:31] their property, but that's not the case. [28:32] I mean, we have several other areas as [28:34] well in the city that that this is [28:36] happening, and it's not allowed in a [28:37] residential area. I'm glad this is [28:39] coming through, and I drove over there [28:41] this afternoon, and I just want to have [28:42] a quick look, and there was five or six [28:44] cars in the driveway in that area. So, [28:47] something happening there and I'm I'm [28:48] glad, you know, our inspectors and our [28:50] municipal enforcement, whoever's doing [28:51] the inspection on those are are [28:53] traveling there and uh and reporting [28:55] that back. Uh this stuff is not you [28:57] know, if you want to operate a garage or [28:58] something like that, you go to a proper [29:01] location and set it up. So, uh that's [29:03] just my view on that one. [29:04] And I'm glad this happening. Thanks. [29:06] >> Yep, well said. You uh live in a [29:08] residential area, you should be able to [29:10] enjoy living in a residential area, not [29:12] living in a commercial area or have [29:13] commercial activity. [29:15] I'm going to call the question. All in [29:16] favor? And those opposed? And that's [29:18] carried. Thank you. [29:22] » Uh thank you, Mayor. Uh the next item is [29:24] the St. John's urban regional urban [29:27] region regional plan amendment number [29:28] 110 2025. This is an update here. [29:31] And it's again it's for the attention [29:33] and consideration of my members of [29:35] council as well as the public. Um it's a [29:37] public consultation summary regarding uh [29:40] the St. John's urban regional plan [29:42] amendment. No objections were received [29:45] during the referral and consultation [29:46] process [29:48] of this urban regional plan uh which [29:50] closed on August 10th of 2026. In [29:53] summary, the city received four [29:54] responses [29:55] from our neighboring municipalities, [29:57] CBS, St. John's, Bay Bulls, Portugal [29:59] Cove, St. Philip's, and none of the [30:00] responses raised any concerns nor [30:03] objections regarding the proposed [30:05] provincial amendment. [30:07] We did, however, receive one email from [30:08] a resident and they were seeking [30:10] clarification [30:12] as to how this might impact their [30:14] individual residential property, but [30:16] after discussing this with our staff, uh [30:18] the resident did not express any [30:20] objection again to this proposed [30:22] provincial amendment. [30:23] Now, next steps. It's a very thorough [30:25] process as we know here trying to get [30:27] our municipal plan uh Mount Pearl's city [30:30] municipal plan updated. So, these are [30:33] the required upcoming steps. [30:36] Um we await confirmation from the [30:38] province regarding this proposed St. [30:40] John's urban region regional plan [30:42] amendment. We're expecting that late [30:44] August. [30:45] Then we're going to resubmit a revised [30:47] draft municipal plan and development [30:49] regulations [30:50] spanning 2026 to 2036. This of course is [30:53] based on internal revisions, the outcome [30:56] of the amendment that we just [30:57] referenced, and response to general [30:59] commentary and review comments from the [31:01] province. Um so we're expecting this by [31:04] mid-September. [31:05] Then we're going to await section 15 [31:07] release [31:09] for the um municipal plan development [31:11] regulations 2026 to 2036 from the [31:13] province. We're expecting that late [31:15] September. [31:17] Then we'll proceed with the adoption of [31:19] our municipal plan development [31:20] regulations by the by our public [31:22] council. Again, late September, early [31:24] October. [31:25] Then we have to schedule and hold a [31:27] joint public hearing. We're expecting [31:29] that in mid-October. Then we'll await [31:31] the public commissioner's report, [31:33] council approval of our municipal plan [31:35] development regulations, submit the plan [31:38] and regulations to the province for [31:39] ministerial register registration. We're [31:42] expecting that in early November. Then [31:44] we'll um [31:45] await uh ministerial registration letter [31:48] from the province. Again, late November, [31:50] early December. And finally, publish the [31:53] notice of registration in the [31:54] Newfoundland and Labrador Gazette. And [31:56] that's estimated at the end of December. [31:58] This will then conclude the required [32:00] process. And the Mount Pearl uh the new [32:03] Mount Pearl municipal plan and [32:04] development regulations for 2026 to 2036 [32:07] will officially come into effect on the [32:10] date that the notice of registration is [32:11] published in the Newfoundland and [32:13] Labrador Gazette. So this is a very a [32:16] fullsome and and thorough process here. [32:19] And we are following due process. So I [32:21] just wanted to provide that update [32:22] there, Mayor. [32:26] And the last uh for our report [32:28] is the um development permit listing [32:30] from uh June 1st to July 31st of 2026. [32:35] And you can see that there are 11 listed [32:37] there. [32:38] And um we're open any questions should [32:40] council have any questions on this. [32:42] >> I think Councillor Antle does. [32:45] >> Just a question and maybe uh [32:47] we can answer this. I noticed this is [32:48] just for our FYI, [32:50] right? But it stated June the 1st uh to [32:53] running through to July 20th. Is there [32:55] any way we can have that earlier like [32:56] instead of having [32:58] already happened? What's going to [32:59] happen? Is that a possibility? [33:04] Well, no. Well, this is uh this is uh [33:07] development permit listings that are [33:09] happening like you know what? Open air [33:11] assembly that happened on June the 16th. [33:13] There were hockey tournament that [33:14] happened over top the road. I didn't [33:15] know that was happening. But if we had a [33:17] known it if we have it beforehand. Is [33:19] there any way you can have it beforehand [33:20] like it's going to happen in September? [33:23] No, I think things don't I'm asking [33:25] instead of having it now as an FYI that [33:27] already happened. [33:28] Like is an FYI that already happened. [33:30] I'd like to know what's going to happen. [33:33] >> Well, I guess the only thing we could do [33:34] is if is show permits have been approved [33:36] right up to today I'll say to exaggerate [33:39] the case perhaps. [33:41] But we can't really forecast into the [33:44] future unless you're talking about an [33:46] activity that was approved [33:49] that may happen in the future. But [33:50] they're all future oriented, right? [33:52] Because when the permit's issued it's [33:53] about to you're about to do something. [33:56] So, help me out here either director or [33:59] CAO. I'm trying to answer Councillor [34:01] Antle it would in a practical way, but [34:04] uh [34:05] could we get them earlier? [34:07] Um or more up to date for lack of a [34:09] better word. I don't mean that to be [34:11] critical. Just asking the question. [34:14] >> No, I mean listen. I we can certainly [34:16] take it away. I I don't see um [34:20] a procedural way to provide guaranteed [34:23] advance notice of all permits issued [34:25] because our permits are processed based [34:27] on event date. So, or activity date. So, [34:32] I I can't guarantee you that cuz we may [34:34] not even be in receipt of the permit [34:35] application 2 months out from an event [34:38] happening. We may only be able to issue [34:39] the permit in that appropriate time [34:41] period. So, unfortunately, I think we [34:43] have to take that away and give it more [34:45] consideration as to how we can achieve [34:46] and I know what you're asking for, [34:48] but I I, you know, the it's a manual [34:51] process to deliver that and so we have [34:53] to give that more consideration. [34:56] » Yeah, just to go back on that one. Like [34:57] for the ball hockey tournament, that's [34:59] one I was just noticed that was [34:59] happening on July the 9th. You know, and [35:02] this is a it was an FYI. Like I didn't I [35:05] walked over it. I didn't know what was [35:06] happening. Is there any way that we know [35:08] if something's happening in September? [35:10] It was going to be an FYI or October. [35:12] Maybe it doesn't happen, but that'd be [35:13] nice to know [35:15] if it's going to happen. Something like [35:17] >> That's the takeaway, I think. That's the [35:19] one you've got to [35:20] But I would ask this, [35:22] um not for decision tonight, but to [35:24] Councillor Angel's point, if the if the [35:26] report is being prepared the Friday [35:28] before the Tuesday, maybe the cut-off [35:29] could be the Thursday before the council [35:31] meeting. And the spreadsheet, which I'm [35:33] assuming this is what this is, could be [35:36] uh tabulated. The other issue, I think [35:38] we're going to leave that in your hands [35:39] until next meeting. Uh Councillor Angel, [35:42] that work for you? [35:46] Okay. Um that report was from Deputy [35:48] Mayor Locker. You finished, sir? [35:50] >> sir. Thank you. [35:50] >> I'm going to move to round table. [35:52] Councillor uh Rice, please. [35:57] » No, just a couple things for me there. [35:59] Uh I just wanted to uh [36:01] just wanted to add about the city [36:02] website. Uh also, there's a couple [36:05] things I wanted to highlight actually, [36:07] uh because a couple of people uh [36:09] residents called me about a couple of [36:10] things happening in the city and one of [36:11] them was a citizen's alert about signing [36:13] up for the citizen alert. Anything [36:15] that's happening in the city, you get it [36:17] through that uh [36:19] through that, you know, process there [36:21] because you you once you sign up and [36:22] give your email, you'll get notification [36:23] of it cuz a couple people mentioned to [36:25] me that they didn't know what was [36:26] something was happening, but if you sign [36:27] up for that, you will get it. Also, the [36:29] construction is notices are all up there [36:31] as well on the city site. Very important [36:34] because I know we got lots of [36:35] construction happening now around the [36:37] city. Uh you know, uh you over on uh [36:40] you know, [36:42] up around Farrell Drive area is a lot of [36:44] stuff happening up in that area, so you [36:45] know, uh same thing as well. And uh the [36:48] other the other one I want to mention is [36:50] the Hey Mayor Pearl uh [36:52] Your Voice. So, you can go down that app [36:53] and you can put actually on the Hey [36:55] Mayor Pearl, you can actually click on [36:57] the on the link there [36:59] and you can go in and give your opinion [37:00] on stuff, upcoming stuff in the city. [37:01] So, I just want to That's it for me. [37:03] Thank you. [37:04] >> Yeah, citizen alerts really valuable, [37:05] especially for service notifications or [37:08] uh or emergencies. [37:10] Um okay, so thank you, Councillor Race. [37:13] Over to you, Councillor Fry. [37:17] » Thank you, Mayor. [37:19] There are two things I want to speak [37:20] about tonight. The first one is [37:22] something I think we'll all be [37:23] interested in and that's of course, [37:25] e-bikes and uh scooter regulations. [37:29] As um [37:30] as part of Municipalities Newfoundland [37:32] and Labrador, I've been involved with [37:34] meeting with the province and the team, [37:37] Minister Goosney and his team there [37:40] in terms of what how to go forward in [37:42] terms of regulating this. Of course, [37:44] this is all so new. It's new technology [37:47] and we're still trying to trying to [37:49] catch up with it. [37:50] But, everyone agrees that regulations [37:52] are needed for for a number of reasons. [37:55] I mean, first of all, you've got a lot [37:57] of young people using these. They don't [37:59] know the rules of the road. They haven't [38:02] applied for a permit and did a test and [38:04] then did their driver's training and [38:07] then had to do another test. Like, it is [38:10] kids are kids and of course, as kids, do things that they probably [38:14] shouldn't do. They don't have the fear, [38:15] so we need regulations first of all to [38:19] keep them safe. [38:21] But, also, I know after talking to a lot [38:23] of people over the last couple of weeks, [38:25] especially, there are a lot of people [38:27] who have had near misses with people on [38:29] e-bikes and e-scooters. I know I have. [38:32] And uh [38:33] I can't imagine if I had hit somebody. I [38:37] mean, I would never be the same again. [38:39] It would You know, that's something that [38:40] stays with you. So, we also, of course, [38:42] need to protect the drivers as well. So, [38:46] I think we're moving in the right [38:47] direction. I I I'm so impressed with uh [38:50] with Minister Goosney and his team. I [38:52] believe they've taken this very [38:53] seriously, and [38:55] they've done a lot of consultations and [38:57] a lot of research, and and that's [38:59] including with e-bike manufacturers, and I've learned a few things about [39:02] that, too. [39:04] So, [39:05] the province has now launched a public [39:08] engagement survey, and this is focused [39:10] on strengthening road safety, including [39:12] the regulation and safe operations of [39:14] e-bikes and e-scooters. [39:16] So, I encourage people to go into that [39:19] site [39:20] and participate in the survey and share [39:22] their views on how road safety can be [39:24] improved for all users. And I do believe [39:26] that we're going to get a lot of similar [39:29] things, you know, like a lot of repeat [39:31] things, but there's probably going to be [39:33] one or two those little gems in there [39:35] that's going to make a difference. So, [39:37] everybody's Everybody's views are [39:38] important there. [39:40] And the survey can be found at [39:41] engageNL.ca. [39:43] And uh this stems from growing public [39:45] discussions across the province [39:47] regarding e-bike and e-scooter safety. [39:49] And it includes concerns raised by [39:51] municipalities, residents, and law [39:53] enforcement. So, of course, the city of [39:55] Mount Pearl will also complete a survey [39:57] as it's open to municipalities as well [39:59] as the general public. [40:01] And uh I I'd strongly encourage people [40:03] to uh to have their say. And this is new. It's kind of like when [40:08] seatbelt regulations first came in. You [40:11] know, nobody wanted it, but now it's [40:13] just [40:14] now it just keeps us all safe and it's [40:15] just um [40:17] a habit. So, we're at a place now where [40:19] this is coming into play and it's [40:22] something that people should should have [40:24] their have their voices heard. [40:27] So, that's one thing I wanted to talk [40:29] about there. I don't know if anybody [40:30] else wanted to comment. [40:37] The other thing I wanted to talk about [40:39] is um [40:41] I've [40:42] as you guys all know, I'm an animal [40:44] lover. [40:45] And I've had a number of residents reach [40:46] out to me over the summer with concerns [40:49] that our animal when when they call in, [40:52] if they if they've captured a stray [40:54] animal, when they call in, they're told [40:57] that we don't collect stray animals [41:00] if they're in custody. [41:02] So, this got some people shaking their heads [41:05] because I mean, if you see a stray cat, [41:08] you're going to [41:09] entice them somewhere, [41:11] enclose them, and then call animal [41:13] regulations and say, "Please come get [41:15] this." [41:16] But, they're being told now, "If you [41:17] have If you have the animal, [41:20] we're not coming to take it." So, this [41:22] is something of concern. I just bring it [41:24] forward because I've had a number of [41:25] residents reach out to me on this. [41:27] is the season when the you know, [41:30] you've got a lot of animals roaming and [41:34] they're we're coming into kitten season, [41:36] and you don't want an excess of animals [41:39] on the streets. [41:40] Plus, you also don't want, you know, for [41:42] the safety of the animals as well. So, [41:44] this is something I just wanted to bring [41:45] forward for future discussion. I just [41:48] wanted to table it here today and and [41:50] let residents know that this is [41:51] something on our radar and we're going [41:52] to revisit it. [41:55] And that's it for me, Your Worship. [41:56] Thank you. [41:57] >> Yeah, I guess part of your plea is is it [41:59] something new we're doing or not doing, [42:01] whatever the case may be, but [42:04] yeah, it's nice to be able to [42:05] communicate that to residents. [42:07] >> We used to We used to collect animals. [42:11] Um and I believe it changed in 2019. So, [42:14] I'm just asking that it be revisited [42:16] because this is something, you know, [42:17] like I said, we don't want we don't want [42:19] animals on on the street and you've got [42:22] all these good Samaritans who are [42:24] collecting and are trying to save [42:26] animals and trying to get them off the [42:28] street. And if people won't come and if [42:31] our if our [42:34] bylaws say that we won't go collect [42:36] them, what are they going to do with [42:37] them? Put them back out on the street. [42:39] And we don't want that. So, um I just [42:41] wanted to bring it forward and have it [42:43] revisited. [42:44] Thank you. [42:45] >> So, the direction is will staff take it [42:47] away? I think that's what I'm sensing, [42:49] right? That's your plea? Yeah, good [42:50] stuff. Okay, thanks so much. Over to [42:52] Deputy Mayor. [42:55] >> Uh thank you, Mayor. Two quick things. [42:56] Well, the first about the e-bikes, I [42:57] won't go on at length because I'm uh [43:00] Councillor Fry summarized it uh [43:02] nicely there. I'm just delighted to see [43:04] the province uh [43:05] you know, taking an initiative and and reaching out seeking feedback, but [43:10] as Councillor Fry said, I think there's going to be significant [43:13] overlap um [43:16] in the responses. So, I I await that. Um [43:18] I also want to just extend the [43:20] congratulations to the event Sunday, the [43:22] uh [43:23] the Sunset Market out here out front. I [43:25] mean, people were just they were [43:26] charmed. I got to say. Um so many people [43:29] came and said, "What a lovely event." It [43:30] was pop-up. Some people said, "I didn't [43:32] know about it. I heard the music. I was [43:33] over the tennis courts. I decided to [43:35] drop down." The music was great. [43:37] The um the food was great. The uh you [43:40] know, all the vendors. So, I just want [43:42] to extend congratulations Director [43:44] Collins and others who were involved in [43:45] that [43:46] uh making that such a success. That's it [43:48] for me, Mayor. Thank you. [43:51] >> Thank you. [43:52] And over to you, Councillor Antle, and [43:54] uh let's talk about e-bikes. Go ahead. [43:56] >> I I have a [43:58] two things to talk about. One, I'll talk [43:59] about e-bikes, believe it or not. I just [44:01] filled out Engage NL. [44:03] I have a call in to the minister. and to [44:05] chat with the minister because I I am on [44:07] a knee bike. [44:09] And I'm I'm on the bike and trail every [44:11] week every day. [44:13] And I stopped talking to people most [44:14] times to ask them about how they feel [44:16] about e-bikes. [44:17] And a lot of people do we have to [44:18] there's distinguish between e-bikes. [44:20] are pedal assisted e-bikes and [44:23] e-bikes without pedals. [44:24] And we got to make sure that we're not [44:26] going to ban e-bikes that pedal [44:28] assisted. I think I know minister even [44:30] said we're not looking for a banning [44:31] e-bikes with pedals. Pedal assisted [44:33] bikes I mean we got to there's car what [44:35] is two there's a big difference. [44:37] And I won't go on about that too much. [44:39] But you know Sunday when I went up from [44:41] my house to CBS 90% of the bikers were [44:44] e-bikers on the trails and they were [44:46] following rules of the road. [44:48] Now I'll get to my topic and I'll just [44:50] get into that. I was up on uh [44:52] Saint David's and I contacted a [44:54] counselor Wednesday or Thursday last [44:56] week with my grandchildren. [44:58] And when I went there there was six [45:00] youngsters and they were they were [45:02] electric dirt bikes or whatever these [45:04] called pedal they never had no pedals. [45:06] And they were going across Saint David's [45:08] field [45:09] in the parkway and I'd say they were [45:10] doing 40 or 50 km an hour. They were [45:12] flying. I mean there was youngsters all [45:14] over the field. My youngsters were [45:15] there. My grandchildren were there. [45:17] was other children there playing. [45:19] We our parks and rec were playing with [45:21] their kids. I contacted our CEO and I [45:24] said this is terrible. I mean this is we [45:26] have to do something. So I stopped I [45:28] chatted with other parents while I was [45:30] there. [45:31] And a lot of people don't realize that [45:33] these motor these e-bikes without motors [45:36] are not legal here in the city of Mount [45:38] Pearl. They can be confiscated. [45:41] So one of our MEOs came by and I chatted [45:43] with one of our MEOs and we talked about [45:45] this like they can confiscate these [45:47] bikes. I think what we have to do is let [45:50] parents know like right up front they're [45:52] illegal in the city of Mount Pearl and [45:53] we can confiscate them. They're in our [45:55] bylaws. We had them sent out today that [45:58] our bylaw states that we can confiscate [46:00] motorized vehicles within city of Mount [46:02] Pearl. And e-bikes without pedals can be [46:06] confiscated. I think what we need to do [46:08] is put a on our website, on our [46:10] Facebook, that we're going to start [46:12] confiscating these bikes. Parents need [46:14] to know they're illegal in the city of [46:15] Mount Pearl. Somebody's going to get [46:17] hurt. The bylaws, like Counselor Friel [46:18] just said, the minister's working on [46:20] something. [46:21] But our bylaws are already in the city. [46:23] Our MEOs can pick up a bike and [46:26] confiscate that bike. Now, as regards to [46:29] scooters, I don't know how the scooters [46:30] work. But the scooters are just as [46:32] dangerous as If they don't have pedals, [46:34] someone's going to get hurt on these [46:36] bikes. But right now, we already have [46:37] the bylaws in our city that we can [46:39] confiscate the bikes. I think what we [46:41] need to do is put out a some kind of [46:43] notification within the next 30 days or [46:45] next 2 weeks, we're going to start [46:46] confiscating. And I think that will stop [46:48] people from using Parents don't know [46:50] that they're illegal. [46:52] Yeah. I was up in Costco [46:54] a couple of days ago. They're selling [46:56] scooters now for I won't say the price, [46:58] but they're selling People are buying [46:59] them all over the place. Parents need to [47:01] know they're illegal in the city of [47:02] Mount Pearl. And however we do that, we [47:04] can put a sign on the beginning of We [47:06] have signs all the times. [47:08] Yeah. [47:09] And And you know, that's uh [47:11] me on e-bikes. So, anybody else? [47:12] >> passionate. You're a bit of a cyclist [47:14] from what I understand. [47:14] >> I'm on the e-bike. I talked to lots of [47:16] people in the city, right? You know, my [47:18] age around the e-bikes, and I contacted [47:20] I put on the Engage NL, and I put a sign [47:22] my name, and I said you can give me a [47:23] call. I talked to e-bikes. You can go [47:25] down on the trail, and I just rode my [47:27] bike across the walk, and I talked to [47:29] people on the e-bikes. [47:30] And I stress that. I think any of us are [47:32] looking We don't want to ban e-bikes. [47:35] Pedal-assisted e-bikes are what are [47:36] safe. It's the speed and these motorized [47:40] dirt bikes have to be banned. And we [47:42] have the laws in place to confiscate [47:43] them. [47:45] And that's my rant on that one. [47:46] >> Unfortunately, we don't Well, it depends [47:48] on the classification. Electric dirt [47:50] bikes, these little guys that go, you [47:52] know what I mean? Like like the old [47:53] Yammie, remember the old Yammies? They [47:55] are classified as off-road vehicles in [47:57] the city of Mount Pearl and they are [47:59] enforceable. Right now e-bikes with [48:01] pedals and e-scooters are permitted [48:03] within the city because to see a sign [48:06] doesn't always define what the [48:07] regulation is and the regulations don't [48:09] necessarily back that up and we're [48:11] trying to coordinate with the province [48:14] and [48:15] I got the CAO and I saw the corner of my [48:17] eye Deputy Mayor Lock. Can you expand on [48:19] that as I know we had some notes done up [48:22] and but Councillor is right, speed is [48:24] the issue. I'm not sure I agree with him [48:26] on the pedal assist bikes but e-scooters [48:28] and e-bikes it's free range [48:30] unfortunately. Is that a fair statement [48:33] unless we ban them specifically just [48:34] from our infrastructure? [48:39] » Um listen, no doubt that this is a topic [48:42] of interest particularly with the news [48:44] as of late. So the city is working on a [48:47] submission [48:49] outlining many of the concerns raised [48:51] here today but Mayor is right. It's very [48:53] clear legislatively in our own [48:54] regulations around e-bikes without [48:57] pedals because they don't have to propel [48:59] they cannot operate on a propel assist. [49:02] So we do have regulations support that [49:04] we do not have the support of [49:05] regulations for e-scooters or e-bikes [49:08] and so at this point in time [49:11] any enforcement is limited in terms of [49:14] what we can do as a municipality so we [49:17] have to work with the province. We have [49:18] to govern [49:20] we have to work from a governance and [49:21] advocacy perspective to find a path [49:24] forward on that. So we're doing what we [49:27] can. We are enforcing the regulations [49:29] that are within our control. So for [49:31] example helmets helmets are required [49:34] under our current regulations and our [49:36] municipal enforcement team have been [49:38] enforcing helmet [49:41] regulations and requirements more so and Director Collins has given this [49:46] direction to his team [49:47] to ensure that we are stopping we are [49:49] working with youth [49:51] for e-bikes e-dirt bikes, sorry. and It [49:55] is all very complicated, but for e-dirt [49:57] bikes, we are [49:59] we have given the direction to our [50:00] enforcement team to confiscate where [50:02] appropriate, and if you're operating [50:04] outside of that to call a parent and [50:06] ensure the parent comes to collect the [50:07] bike in those times. So, the challenge, [50:11] you know, the challenge is around [50:12] enforcement of e-scooters and and [50:14] e-bikes that have [50:16] um [50:17] pedal pedals with them because our [50:20] ability to enforce is limited. However, [50:22] we are working more on an awareness [50:24] angle right now, and we're we're going [50:25] to work with the province to support [50:28] better legislation that we can better [50:30] enforce. [50:32] >> I'm going to save you for last, [50:33] Councillor Rental, because you started a [50:34] great conversation, but I think we've [50:36] got two colleagues that want to speak, [50:37] and maybe more for all I know, but I'm [50:39] going to go to Deputy Mayor Lock and [50:40] then Councillor Fry. [50:42] >> Uh thank you, Mayor. I just further to [50:43] what Councillor Rental was saying, I I [50:45] mean, he's dead on the money here, [50:47] but I think we got to get into the [50:48] semantics because we're using the term [50:51] e-bikes, but and I think that's where [50:53] the confusion comes, Councillor Rental. [50:55] It's it's the e-motorcycle [50:58] that we're we're concerned about because [50:59] I know [51:00] I mean, I was reading here today some [51:02] information that was sent to us about [51:04] micro-mobility devices. [51:06] And then the examples that were given [51:08] here, e-bikes, pedal-assist bikes, [51:12] e-scooters, electric skateboards, and [51:13] Segways. [51:15] But to me, what distinguishes an e-bike [51:17] from a pedal-assist bike? In my mind, [51:19] they're the same. It's the e-motorcycles [51:22] is what we're [51:23] I think what what you're referring to [51:25] here, right? But [51:27] or electric dirt bike, right? But, you [51:29] know, a bicycle a [51:31] The pedal-assist is what we permit. As [51:33] long as you got pedals that you can [51:34] propel with your feet, [51:36] that's what's permissible. [51:39] Of course, and I said that a couple of [51:41] weeks ago, that I'm on the trail [51:43] sometimes, and people on [51:45] you know, you know, mountain bikes that [51:47] aren't e electric, they're exceeding the [51:50] speeds on our trails. So, you know, but [51:53] we need to we and I'm sure the province [51:54] is going to do this, they need to [51:56] clarify to your point, Councillor [51:58] Randell, so that parents know what's [52:00] legal, what's not. [52:02] legal in the city of Mount [52:03] Pearl. Thank you, Mayor. [52:05] Councillor Fry. And Councillor Racey, [52:07] are you next in the queue or you want to [52:08] wait? You going to You're going to pass [52:10] for now. I think it's all being [52:11] discussed. Councillor Fry and then [52:13] Councillor Randell. [52:16] >> I just wanted to add because there was [52:17] one thing that I I learned this week. [52:20] These uh scooters, you know, the ones [52:22] that kids have, they come in factory uh [52:25] from the factory at set at 30 km/h. [52:28] That's what is recommended, 30 km/h. [52:30] But apparently, there's a way you can, I [52:33] don't know, YouTube it or something and [52:35] this is what kids are doing. There's a [52:36] way to override that 30 km/h. So, now [52:40] you've got these scooters that should be [52:43] going 30 km/h and they're going much, faster. So, that's one of the [52:48] things that we need to [52:50] keep in mind, too, when you're talking [52:52] about speeds and and e-scooters. Like, [52:54] there's You've got the ones from the [52:55] factory that are 30 km and then others [52:59] that can go much faster. [53:01] Uh I also wanted just to to I think [53:04] uh CAO Rideout hit the ball hit the nail [53:06] right on the head because in terms of [53:09] regulation, we need provincial [53:11] regulation. We need to keep it [53:12] consistent across across the province [53:14] across municipal boundaries. And by [53:17] having provincial regulation, that will [53:19] help in terms of enforcement and giving [53:22] more more clout to enforcement. And uh [53:25] that's all I just wanted to say. I just [53:26] I was fascinated about the I was down at [53:28] the e-bike shop and they have what they [53:31] call moto bikes or something and they [53:34] look really amazing. There was one there [53:36] like $20,000. [53:38] But it is I mean, there's the technology [53:39] is there and one of something else that [53:41] he said that I found was interesting, [53:43] too. He said, "This is new here, but [53:46] people tourist come and they want to [53:48] rent these bikes because they've they're [53:50] so used to having them in other parts of [53:52] Canada that when they come, they know [53:54] how to use them and that's that's their [53:56] mode of transportation. So, we're just a [53:59] little bit uh I guess a little bit later [54:02] getting it here, but it's like the [54:03] Cabbage Patch effect, you know, one kid [54:05] gets it, everybody else wants one, [54:06] right? [54:07] >> Now, you're dating yourself. [54:08] >> Yeah. [54:10] >> Coun. Tilley, [54:11] you stared at this. [54:12] >> How do you want to finish, sir? [54:13] >> Just on a high note. I talked to some [54:16] kids that use scooters and I thought [54:18] this was fabulous. Couple of scooters, [54:20] like you can leave my house for any [54:21] Mount Pearl now and you can take these [54:23] scooters and that's what they're [54:24] planning to do, go right to university, [54:27] 10 km from Mount Pearl, 10 km on our [54:29] trails and it's nice trails and they can [54:31] take the scooters, put them in their [54:32] backpack and put them in the locker. So, [54:34] it's ideal for university students. [54:36] There is a way we can keep these [54:37] scooters and work with these. Like the [54:39] mayor said, speed is the key. 20 km on [54:42] our trails, that's it. If you do 20 km, [54:44] with something director Collins, we both [54:46] have e-bikes and you know, we do speed [54:47] them at 20 km. It's no problem. I have [54:50] an e-bike, my son has a regular bike, I [54:52] cannot keep up with him. I have an [54:54] e-bike, my bike tops out at 28 km, it [54:56] won't go any faster in life. [54:58] I can't keep up with Ryan. This is just [55:00] impossible. It's just So, it's it's [55:02] speed. Any other I'll go on and that's [55:03] it. So, we can go on that. My last one [55:05] is really uh it's good news. [55:07] And I think we need to send out a letter [55:09] congratulations to Read Music. [55:11] Junior and Junior Reed are celebrating [55:13] 35 years of successful business here in [55:16] the city of Mount Pearl. [55:17] Junior and Junior started our business [55:19] off here on number three Commonwealth [55:21] Avenue, all right? And one they had one [55:23] little [55:24] office there off Amulree Electric. [55:26] That's where he started, a little tiny [55:27] office. It was just They had a couple of [55:29] guitars and a piano and they started off [55:31] 35 years ago. [55:33] And now you look at them, they're over [55:34] on Topsail Road, they have the I think [55:35] the top floor, they have classes. They [55:38] have [55:40] I've taught so many people how to play [55:41] music here in City Mount Pearl. [55:44] If any time we want any kind of [55:45] donation, you call Junior and Janior and [55:48] they're there right away. So, for 35 [55:50] years successful business here in City [55:51] Mount Pearl, congratulations from [55:53] almost, I'm sure, and a nice letter from [55:54] the City Mount Pearl would be nice. [55:56] And uh maybe we can drop over and uh [55:59] drop it off to him. And that's [56:00] everything from me, Your Worship. Thank [56:01] you. [56:02] >> Consider it done. I'm going to finish [56:03] with a few thank yous. Thank you to [56:05] Carrie Hotter in our community city [56:07] communications for putting together all [56:08] these great e-bike and e-scooter and [56:11] e-messaging [56:14] uh for the city. Thank you very much uh [56:15] Carrie. Uh thank you to council and [56:17] staff for um Mount Pearl putting the [56:19] initiative in through MNL to uh put a [56:22] resolution on the table so that [56:24] Councillor Fry, who's the vice president [56:26] of MNL and is also, I think, head of [56:28] advocacy, [56:29] uh could meet with Minister Goosney [56:31] along with her colleagues at MNL. Um but [56:33] I can also give you an update. I think [56:35] the minister is very confident in the [56:38] process and it's going to be very [56:39] thorough, but there are timelines. And [56:42] he, I believe, mentioned to me yesterday [56:44] that they're hoping to bring in some [56:46] legislation the fall. They're they're [56:48] not dithering cuz he's not just hearing [56:50] it, say, from the City of Mount Pearl. I [56:53] think all quarters are are speaking to [56:55] it. [56:56] Um [56:56] and I think CAO, we talked about [56:59] setting up a meeting with Minister [57:00] Goosney just to follow up our [57:01] engagement. I believe we would have no [57:04] trouble getting Councillor Antle to go. [57:06] Yeah. So. [57:07] With that in mind, uh [57:09] thank you everybody for your attention, [57:11] your discussion of the issues, and [57:13] giving up um the evening of your Tuesday, which is [57:16] a quite evening outdoors, and I'm going [57:17] to now call for a motion, please, to [57:20] adjourn the meeting. Moved by Councillor [57:21] Fry, seconded by Councillor Rice.