1 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:18,380 Good evening folks. Thank you very much. This is the Board Commissioner meeting for the City of Mount Juliette for February 8, 2016. It is 6.31 pm. We do have a quorum present. We have all five elected officials in attendance. At this time, we will set the agenda and I believe it's set as published. Sheila, is that correct? 2 00:06:21,140 --> 00:06:28,020 Okay. If you're interested in following along, they are in the back of the room on both sides, or you can follow along via the internet. 3 00:06:28,020 --> 00:06:35,660 This time, I'd like to introduce you to Associate Pastor Mark Youngman from Providence United Methodist Church. 4 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:41,340 Pastor, if you'd come and lead us in prayer and pledge, we would appreciate it very much. 5 00:06:43,590 --> 00:06:44,350 Thank you for coming out. 6 00:06:44,430 --> 00:06:45,370 Thanks for having me. 7 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:46,850 For the fist bump. 8 00:06:47,130 --> 00:06:47,610 Yeah. 9 00:06:47,910 --> 00:06:48,550 I appreciate that. 10 00:06:49,210 --> 00:06:49,870 That's great. 11 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,860 God, we thank you for the day that you have given us. 12 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,320 For all that you have done and all that you will yet do this evening. 13 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:04,380 We give you praise for who you are and who you call us to be. 14 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,000 I'm glad I thank you for this gathering of people tonight. 15 00:07:09,380 --> 00:07:15,340 I'm glad we pray that you'll be present in the hearts and words that are shared and spoken tonight. 16 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,500 I'm glad we thank you for all the ways that you surprise us and this evening as snow is falling down. 17 00:07:20,780 --> 00:07:28,280 For all that means for a city and city workers we take a moment to thank you for your beauty and the way it surprises us. 18 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:34,340 then we have hearts that are always open to wonder at the great things you do. 19 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,680 God, we thank you for the servants in this room, we thank you for the leaders in this 20 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,820 room, and we thank you that they're one in the same that you've called the group of people 21 00:07:42,820 --> 00:07:45,340 to serve our community by leading. 22 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:51,040 God, we pray that your spirit will be present tonight as everyone gathered here, shares their 23 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:57,220 hearts in their minds, and we pray that you would bring unity in this place as we all strive 24 00:07:57,220 --> 00:08:02,880 to see this community continue to thrive and be a place that can serve even as a springboard 25 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,580 for the greater things that you will yet do here and around the world. 26 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,080 And Jesus name, amen. 27 00:08:09,660 --> 00:08:10,460 Thank you. 28 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:12,500 Thank you. 29 00:08:13,540 --> 00:08:22,480 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which 30 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:23,320 it stands. 31 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:29,120 One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 32 00:08:31,130 --> 00:08:40,690 Pastor, we're proud to have you in our community, it's a great church that you lead, and if you tell us, take a few minutes, tell us more about your church, we would really appreciate it. 33 00:08:41,090 --> 00:08:54,230 Absolutely. Providence church is in a big season of transition right now as we're preparing to move into the first permanent building we've been meeting at West Wilson Middle School, and we'll be there for probably a few more weeks. 34 00:08:54,230 --> 00:09:07,430 We're shipping that 815 945 and 1115, we've just recently gone to three services to get ready to move into the new building and we're hoping to be ready to worship by the end of February beginning of March. 35 00:09:08,370 --> 00:09:24,050 And the heart of Providence Church has really been always kind of an outward focused ministry and gathering of people and we expect to continue that to be the heart of the church going forward and it may will continue to worship without walls event as kind of one of those expressions of how 36 00:09:24,050 --> 00:09:28,150 We lower our community and love what God calls us to do and be here. 37 00:09:28,450 --> 00:09:29,270 Yeah, well great. 38 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:34,950 I did go past it the other day on my bicycle and the building looks absolutely beautiful. 39 00:09:34,970 --> 00:09:35,570 It looks great. 40 00:09:36,030 --> 00:09:38,350 It looks great and I can't wait to welcome you in there. 41 00:09:38,670 --> 00:09:39,150 Yeah, great. 42 00:09:39,310 --> 00:09:40,410 Well, thank you for coming out tonight. 43 00:09:40,490 --> 00:09:41,070 Thanks for having me. 44 00:09:42,270 --> 00:09:42,410 All right. 45 00:09:42,670 --> 00:09:47,510 Our first order of business is approval of the minutes from January 11, 2016. 46 00:09:47,810 --> 00:09:48,730 Is there a motion? 47 00:09:49,910 --> 00:09:50,570 Sir, second. 48 00:09:51,610 --> 00:09:52,150 Any questions? 49 00:09:52,350 --> 00:09:53,170 Comments or changes? 50 00:09:53,170 --> 00:09:59,410 All in favor, signify by saying aye, aye, any opposed and any abstentions? 51 00:10:02,270 --> 00:10:05,850 Those minutes are approved, three, zero, to two. 52 00:10:06,870 --> 00:10:06,930 All right. 53 00:10:07,010 --> 00:10:09,110 Next item of business is citizen comments. 54 00:10:09,710 --> 00:10:11,990 Anyone wishing to address the board on any topic? 55 00:10:12,330 --> 00:10:15,170 Please come to this podium, state your name and address for the record. 56 00:10:15,170 --> 00:10:15,730 Even 57 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,540 in my name is Steve Cameron, I'm at a 1533 Colonel Lane. 58 00:10:24,780 --> 00:10:30,040 I'd like to take this opportunity one for realizing the correct moment to state my comments. 59 00:10:30,220 --> 00:10:33,540 I thought I'd missed myself earlier, so I thought I'd missed the opportunity. 60 00:10:34,740 --> 00:10:42,680 I have emailed a bunch of you here already on the topic of having chickens within residential area. 61 00:10:43,660 --> 00:10:47,520 This is a new movement that's really going across the whole country. 62 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:56,800 The University of New Hampshire has a extension that's going out and showing people how to have sustainable living, how to live more green. 63 00:10:58,140 --> 00:11:04,100 I grew up in the state of Maine, so I'm used to having animals around, so for me this is an unusual topic. 64 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:16,200 If you look throughout the country right now, there are well over 25 cities, Los Angeles, New York City, Baltimore, or Pasadena, that have chickens. 65 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:21,440 These are not big lot areas, when you think about it, chickens are very small animals. 66 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:25,580 If you have cats or you have dogs, there's a chickens a lot smaller. 67 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,120 140 pound dog creates more waste and 10 chickens do on a weekly basis. 68 00:11:32,020 --> 00:11:39,100 There is no reason if you do not have reasonable cleaning and so forth that you could not 69 00:11:39,100 --> 00:11:42,120 have chickens in your backyard without disturbing your neighbor at all. 70 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,560 You could have them there and they'd probably never even realize 71 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:45,320 that they're there. 72 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,320 I'm not advocating, have an large huge poultry outfit 73 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,980 in a residential neighborhood. 74 00:11:52,860 --> 00:11:56,300 I'm looking towards what most of the other cities 75 00:11:56,300 --> 00:11:58,720 across the United States are already having, 76 00:11:58,900 --> 00:12:02,620 which is two, three, four chickens in small backyard setting. 77 00:12:03,460 --> 00:12:07,840 One hand requires only about three square feet 78 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:08,900 of living space. 79 00:12:08,900 --> 00:12:16,960 If you have a small run, a fenced in area for them, it is a little bit larger than a doghouse, 80 00:12:17,620 --> 00:12:21,640 but that is the type of area that we're looking at to have those chickens. 81 00:12:23,540 --> 00:12:27,580 One subject, a lot of people have been brought up is noise. 82 00:12:28,260 --> 00:12:31,860 An adult conversation is 60 decibels of noise. 83 00:12:31,860 --> 00:12:38,900 You could be two or three feet from chickens and the most noise that usually have about 63 84 00:12:39,780 --> 00:12:40,080 decibels. 85 00:12:40,620 --> 00:12:43,440 Whereas a dog is 89 decibels in noise. 86 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:50,900 So there is an argument to be made that you could have chickens in a local area without 87 00:12:50,900 --> 00:13:00,420 there one being too loud and two without it being sanitary or three with it being a nuisance. 88 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:11,320 Seven out of the top ten areas with a housing market where I'm sorry, I'm mistaken. 89 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,840 The top ten cities in the U.S. seven out of those allow chickens. 90 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,320 It didn't hurt property prices are so poor. 91 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:27,060 So I would like you to consider it as something to consider in the future and maybe possibly 92 00:13:27,060 --> 00:13:29,560 bringing them up as an agenda item to be discussed. 93 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:36,920 Does anybody have any questions or I know I'm not supposed to expect a conversation 94 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,440 to act from what I'm told? 95 00:13:39,100 --> 00:13:39,800 It's okay. 96 00:13:39,940 --> 00:13:41,280 The thank you very much for coming. 97 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:41,600 Thank you. 98 00:13:41,980 --> 00:13:42,040 Thank you. 99 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,600 Anyone else wish to address the board at this time? 100 00:13:51,060 --> 00:13:56,740 Good evening Mayor, commissioners, my name is Eddie Davidson, I'm managed government relations 101 00:13:56,740 --> 00:14:03,280 for Pigmont Natural Gas, my business address is 83-century boulevard in Nashville, however 102 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:09,060 my home address is Timberco, brought here in Mount Juliette, so I'm pleased to be home tonight. 103 00:14:09,700 --> 00:14:15,580 I just wanted to say I'm here to offer anything that you guys may need and as you consider 104 00:14:15,580 --> 00:14:22,760 the renewal of our franchise represents a continuation of the business partnership that 105 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:28,240 we're in and into when it comes to providing natural gas service for the citizens of Mount 106 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:33,720 Juliet and continue to meet the needs as Mount Juliet continues to grow so we look forward 107 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,840 to continuing that longstanding partnership. 108 00:14:36,420 --> 00:14:39,320 I'm available if you have questions during your consideration. 109 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:48,960 Yeah, one question, please the neighbor I mentioned to you before the meeting the neighbor called me and a neighbor to your sub station there in Northwest Routland 110 00:14:51,140 --> 00:14:52,100 And you 111 00:14:52,100 --> 00:14:59,820 Encourage me to have her reach out to you. Sure. Did you want me to give her your cell phone number or how did you you can you can give her 112 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:27,600 So my office number, or my email number, or email address, I should say. And I should also say for all of the commissioners, as well, I have shared my contact info with the city manager over the years and should you ever run into any sort of constituent issues. I'm here as a resource for you as well. Okay. I'll do that. Thank you very much. Thanks for coming. Anyone else wish to address the board at this time. 113 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:36,460 Okay, seeing none will close citizen comments and we'll go to Commission reports and comments, starting with District 1, Commissioner Rajustis. 114 00:15:36,820 --> 00:15:37,220 Thank you, Mayor. 115 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:45,340 Since we've been a bit, since we've had a meeting, a couple of things that have been going on first of all, the snow. 116 00:15:45,660 --> 00:15:49,780 And we've always, we're always talking about the police officers and what a wonderful job that they did. 117 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:57,180 And we talked about the MSC as, I was very fortunate my daughter had an incident where she had to go by ambulance to Vanderbilt. 118 00:15:57,180 --> 00:16:02,660 recently and it was the night that we had the real snow in the ice on the ground and the 119 00:16:02,660 --> 00:16:07,740 we may need to once the guys came out there and they were as usual as I've been able to work 120 00:16:07,740 --> 00:16:13,620 with them all the last 20 years they were phenomenal and that's the kind of service that we 121 00:16:13,620 --> 00:16:20,660 expect and it kind of got them spoiled by. So we talked about Mount Juyat police department 122 00:16:20,660 --> 00:16:25,680 because they are top notch. We talk about the Mount Juyat fire department because they are top 123 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:32,980 But our county people also deserve a lot of credit and so I'll any opportunity we get we need to 124 00:16:32,980 --> 00:16:36,040 We need to set them on the back. That being said 125 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,380 Some of the unsung heroes out there 126 00:16:39,380 --> 00:16:43,460 Some of the guys that here in the city they jumped on snow plow and 127 00:16:43,460 --> 00:16:51,440 The salt trucks and within two days if one of the record snows the public works department had our roads clear 128 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,020 And we were driving almost normally, as normal as people in the majority of DUDRA. 129 00:16:58,180 --> 00:17:03,020 It was, it was astounding to see what they had accomplished in the leadership, to come 130 00:17:03,020 --> 00:17:07,880 from Jessica and Andy and the folks at Public Works, along with the fire department and 131 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:08,480 the police department. 132 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,040 It was a genuine team effort. 133 00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:15,640 It also goes to far as the road commission at Wilson County and what they were able to do 134 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,340 that I've not seen them do in the past, they would really get a good job. 135 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:28,980 Seeing it, those prizes, I'll get to jump on over for those of you that would get to go to the father-daughter's dance Saturday night. 136 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,660 You missed it. 137 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:39,160 I was able for the first time in my life to see the Carlton dance in person. 138 00:17:41,380 --> 00:17:43,160 By Commissioner Brian Aves. 139 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,580 heard there's a video. There is a video actually. I wish if I had had time I'd 140 00:17:49,580 --> 00:17:54,160 got it to Travis and we'd have that there tonight. It was something to see. It was 141 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,120 something between Carlton dance and foodfighters. I'm not sure exactly which one it was, 142 00:17:59,220 --> 00:18:04,040 but I didn't want to say this is looking for it. I will email it. 143 00:18:08,780 --> 00:18:12,080 I've got it. This is my 144 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:16,360 or third, fourth year I believe it is, and carry my daughters to the father daughter dance. 145 00:18:17,900 --> 00:18:24,180 This year I got to enjoy it with Andy Barlow and Brian Abston and so many others. 146 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:32,260 Rocky Lee, Rose, Jan, CJ, all those folks that have the Parks and Recreation to take their time 147 00:18:32,260 --> 00:18:36,040 and they put their heart and soul into making that a wonderful weekend. 148 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:56,020 The tickets were sold out probably within days after it was announced to the dates, and it was first class all the way, everybody in there was treated great, and it was those little girls, or those are so dear to our hearts, we're treated like little princesses, and that's exactly what the supposed to happen. 149 00:18:57,060 --> 00:19:01,220 I want to thank Rocky and I'll have him at the Parks and Recreation Department for the good job at today. 150 00:19:02,260 --> 00:19:02,800 Good job. 151 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,620 Thank you, Mayor. 152 00:19:09,540 --> 00:19:12,920 I just want to thank everyone that took the time to speak and address the commission today. 153 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:19,380 I also wanted to follow up what Commissioner Justice just said. 154 00:19:20,140 --> 00:19:24,520 That was to thank all the staff, the police and fire, the public works, 155 00:19:24,820 --> 00:19:28,040 the public parks as well involved with our winter weather out there. 156 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:33,040 the awesome response that they had and the effort and level of professionalism with 157 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,720 they put forth and the effort they do to keep the city rolling and keep it moving 158 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,320 along smoothly. I really appreciate all you do for us and everything you do to 159 00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:50,660 keep us safe out there. Also, this Sunday we had a little fire incident in the city and 160 00:19:50,660 --> 00:19:57,180 I wanted to thank the police department for their response and Weema for being there to help 161 00:19:57,180 --> 00:20:03,260 out as well, and of course the Mount Juliette Fire Department, Chief Lothman, all your guys 162 00:20:03,260 --> 00:20:07,220 and the effort and the volunteers that they did, and the phenomenal job that they did 163 00:20:07,220 --> 00:20:14,440 responding on that, and we appreciate all that effort in protecting property and saving 164 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:20,320 lives as well, and all that goes into that and keeping us safe, just really thank you as 165 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,500 well as the police and everything that you guys do for us. 166 00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:53,380 I also wanted to add to, I wanted to thank, and we're several, several my constituents in my district that turned out to one of the board of commission, or I'm excuse me that Board of Education meeting that they had a week or so ago, and, you know, just really, just really nice to see the response and the involvement of the people in the community there for getting out, it was a standing room only packed crowd, and everything that they did to be involved and educate themselves on the process, and it's really, 167 00:20:53,380 --> 00:20:58,660 It's really nice to see people turn out and get involved and involve themselves in that. 168 00:20:58,860 --> 00:20:59,840 And man, that's my comments. 169 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:00,920 All right, thank you. 170 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,640 Going to District 3, Commissioner Archer. 171 00:21:03,740 --> 00:21:04,280 All right. 172 00:21:04,580 --> 00:21:08,560 I wanted to talk about something that the board did 173 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,760 What we did a few years ago and then something that actually this body did, 174 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,620 but I couldn't vote on it. 175 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,880 I guess about two or three years ago, we bought the former Joey Church 176 00:21:22,820 --> 00:21:30,780 And we turned that into our current police department, and it's a beautiful building, it's a beautiful police department. 177 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:43,220 And during that process there was because it was a church and they had a bad district that we asked if there was anyone that would need that bad district. 178 00:21:43,220 --> 00:21:52,880 And we asked the community first, Mount Juliet, and it was, you know, we came back and we knew 179 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:59,220 and that was proven that there wasn't anyone that needed the Mount Juliet, so we, we allowed 180 00:21:59,220 --> 00:22:04,740 that to go outside the community. And we could have sold that. We could have, we could have 181 00:22:04,740 --> 00:22:08,720 got X amount. I don't know how much bad district sell for today. I've never crossed one and only. 182 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:17,760 But there was a client out of one of my clients, actually, out of Bonoff, which in the C came, 183 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,640 and they said, you know, we would like to have a bad district. 184 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,920 So to my, to my remembrance, that's the only one that, that came forth. 185 00:22:27,700 --> 00:22:32,280 And, and again, we re-checked, I remember Mr. Bradshaw brought it up about, you know, 186 00:22:32,420 --> 00:22:34,740 did we know for sure that no one in the community, etc. 187 00:22:34,740 --> 00:22:40,360 So I couldn't vote, but this body voted to let that organization have that bad 188 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:45,700 district. So it was on the outside of the police department and they were doing the 189 00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:51,420 renovation. So that organization came up here and got that bad district to get to 190 00:22:51,420 --> 00:22:57,240 the camp and it set there for a while and then the board felt that God led them to give 191 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:03,320 that bad district to a church that was being built in East Tennessee, who's not my 192 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:21,200 And so I thought that was so good, well, I was recently at a funeral in East Tennessee and I just decided to call that church, call that pastor and ask if I could drive up there and see what we had given them. 193 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:31,420 You know, just see what really had been happened. We bless the people here, man, do it. But you don't think about when you get, you know, that whole trip was over 500 miles. 194 00:23:31,420 --> 00:23:36,660 You don't think about how that now do it, bless his other areas as well. 195 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:43,840 You know, Commissioner Manis, he supported that, or he introduced the bill to support Israel. 196 00:23:44,220 --> 00:23:47,100 And we all unanimously were most of us voted for that. 197 00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:47,840 That was back then. 198 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,400 I know that we would now, and see, I made the comment one time. 199 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:56,180 It was before you were a city manager, Kenny, that, you know, we are blessed. 200 00:23:56,180 --> 00:24:01,340 And we are still blessed because of what we do for others. 201 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,180 And here's an example. 202 00:24:03,580 --> 00:24:07,260 I drove up there and as we can when I top the hill and I saw that church, 203 00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:12,300 I can't tell you how it made me feel about this group of men up here. 204 00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:14,780 And Brian went here but I know Brian would have voted for it. 205 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,820 He was a unanimous vote to give that bad history away. 206 00:24:18,180 --> 00:24:19,340 Travis, would you show this? 207 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,040 It's a church and I don't know how many people has been baptized in it. 208 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,820 But because of your generosity, I couldn't have anything to do with it. 209 00:24:27,980 --> 00:24:28,620 You're generosity. 210 00:24:28,940 --> 00:24:31,040 That's what was at the old police station. 211 00:24:31,820 --> 00:24:32,980 It's promoting the kingdom. 212 00:24:33,780 --> 00:24:39,420 So I just wanted to thank you guys for doing that. 213 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,680 So in that concludes my question. 214 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,100 One other thing, Y'all were talking about the snow removal. 215 00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:47,680 I'm going to tell you something about Kenny Martin. 216 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,280 During that snow, when most of us, some of us when they even get out, you know, I got 217 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,740 out and made some of the best snowcream I've ever made. 218 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:03,540 For those of you who knows anything about snowcream, but it was fantastic, I'm just telling 219 00:25:03,540 --> 00:25:07,760 I'm not bragging about it, but I really am, my snowcream was great this time, that snow was 220 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,000 really good. 221 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,340 I talked to Kenny Martin, you know what he was doing while I was eating snowcream, enjoying 222 00:25:14,340 --> 00:25:22,220 and other city officials, other city departments out as, as they've been talking about and doing a great job, 223 00:25:22,780 --> 00:25:29,740 Kenny was going to shut in people's houses and physically clean in their driveway off. 224 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:38,500 He did that and then the second day robbed Rob Porter and his dad and his son, right? 225 00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:39,800 I don't want to say that. 226 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:46,600 Yeah, they went and done it. It blew my mind, but they're again. That's that's what we're about 227 00:25:47,060 --> 00:25:49,800 So thank you Kenny. Thank you board again for 228 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:52,500 Given that that that mystery way 229 00:25:53,140 --> 00:26:00,240 Thank y'all that also it's my comments good good comments. Okay. Going to district four commissioner Brian. All right. Well 230 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,940 As usual the time it gets here just about everything is said 231 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,000 So did out everything that all you guys said 232 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:20,660 The one thing I would like to say is I appreciate Mark Youngman from Providence, UMC coming out and doing our prayer. 233 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:32,700 So he makes me proud when my home church is doing the prayer at the VOC meeting, so I appreciate Mark and Providence very much. 234 00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:36,200 That concludes my next time you want to start. 235 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,840 I think we should do that, so go that one. 236 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,080 All right. 237 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,960 Go into the city manager, Kenny Martin. 238 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:42,800 Thank you, Mayor. 239 00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:45,260 And there was a hidden agenda for the snow removal. 240 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,980 For one is, I'm too stir crazy and I couldn't stand it. 241 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,440 But for two is, if you know these shut-ins and all the folks that we helped, 242 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,580 they bring likes of, like, pies and cookies and things like that. 243 00:26:54,740 --> 00:26:57,220 But our city house was a little bit of a agenda. 244 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,360 And the works I guess you'd say. 245 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,280 But we got to meet some really sweet people. 246 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,840 We did a little bit at even yesterday with the little lady we went to help 247 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,340 before I knew that the load just kept getting bigger and bigger, but that's the community 248 00:27:08,340 --> 00:27:11,900 guys I'll live in just like the folks from P. and the folks from P. and the folks from 249 00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:13,360 the P. and the folks from P. and the folks from P. and the folks from P. and the folks 250 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:16,280 that are here tonight. They're doing a lot of things behind the scenes that we don't 251 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,600 realize and I'm hoping to have some pretty neat announcements in the future, Mayor and Board 252 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,660 of Commissioners, those at home for some partnerships that we have with these folks and 253 00:27:24,660 --> 00:27:28,080 things that they help do in the community. We'll be doing the community, either through our 254 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,260 BPAT program, or Greenways, Wallways, and Parks programs. I'm pretty excited about that 255 00:27:32,260 --> 00:27:34,420 I hope that will come with some announcements in the future. 256 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,540 But Kudos to all the departments, Parks, Public Works, Police, and Fire, and particular, 257 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,880 an IT from Mr. Travis back there. 258 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:44,140 With that beard, you can really see a smile now. 259 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,520 You can do it on how to even notice it before, but with that beard, you can see it. 260 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,860 But Travis Hepters get all the messages out and it's true, everybody at a phenomenal job, and 261 00:27:52,860 --> 00:27:53,680 it is a family. 262 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,620 Here's how I appreciate everybody so much, and speaking to family, well, not your UT fan 263 00:27:58,620 --> 00:28:00,680 or not, and I know how it folks feel in our mayor. 264 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,640 And for those of you that are duty fans, 265 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,060 if you're not, it's still pretty cool to have coach 266 00:28:05,060 --> 00:28:06,520 former in town. 267 00:28:06,860 --> 00:28:08,580 All the enough, I guess it would have been a week or so 268 00:28:08,580 --> 00:28:10,420 before Peyton came, you know, with, 269 00:28:10,420 --> 00:28:11,340 when the Super Bowl yesterday. 270 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,980 And if you missed that event, hopefully it'll be in the future 271 00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:17,820 that we're working on that could actually be Peyton 272 00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:18,980 and come to town. 273 00:28:19,260 --> 00:28:20,860 And at that point, hopefully it'll be retired 274 00:28:20,860 --> 00:28:21,940 and it'll be neat to get seen. 275 00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:24,300 But I'd like to say that Mount Duelett and coach 276 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:26,080 former Kimber was a little bit of a good look, 277 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,700 charm, because I don't think that Denver 278 00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:28,820 was favorite in that game. 279 00:28:28,940 --> 00:28:29,540 Where are they? 280 00:28:29,540 --> 00:28:30,860 And they went by two touchdowns. 281 00:28:32,340 --> 00:28:34,500 So for those Tennessee fans out there 282 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:36,340 if you're a Peyton fan, congratulations 283 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,040 and there's nice having coach form here in town. 284 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,020 I'd like to thank the commission for helping make that possible. 285 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,860 And also civil site design and also resolve financials 286 00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:48,300 for stepping up and sponsoring that. 287 00:28:48,380 --> 00:28:49,740 We really do appreciate that. 288 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,880 And speaking of family, there's young men 289 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,920 that we'd like to recognize. 290 00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:56,080 And before I do that, I'd like to call Chief Hamburg. 291 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,100 And then of course I'm going to make sure I get this right. 292 00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:03,600 It must Natalie Hughes from a sin credit union to recognize one of our beloved employees. 293 00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:14,040 And a lot of times you know you want to what what it takes to run an organization like a city like this and we'd like to think our city is better than any on the planet and our goal is to make it better than it was yesterday. 294 00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:21,180 But we have a young man here that I've had the privilege of watching literally grow up here and he hates this, but I've always said he had this boyish charm about him. 295 00:29:21,580 --> 00:29:25,100 I don't know if it's the dimples or what it is and it's amazing to sit back there and watch them. 296 00:29:25,220 --> 00:29:26,780 You still got the dimples, by the way. 297 00:29:27,180 --> 00:29:28,680 It's got this beautiful family now. 298 00:29:28,860 --> 00:29:29,540 It's hard to believe. 299 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,180 I've either been here a long time or I'm getting old. 300 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,560 But I'd like to bring up an employee and it's family as well. 301 00:29:36,820 --> 00:29:37,420 I'd like for them to share. 302 00:29:37,620 --> 00:29:39,880 Because I know the sacrifices may be on just here. 303 00:29:39,940 --> 00:29:41,120 I mean, I'll let him make that decision. 304 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,640 But I'd like to bring up Sergeant Jason Brottman with the manager of police department to be recognized 305 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,480 as our employee of the month and then I'll let Chief and Miss Natalie speak from there. 306 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,720 because Ms. Natalie Hughes was a sin-feather-creating unit 307 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,900 and is the proud sponsor of our Employee's Month Program. 308 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:10,740 Mayor Board of Commission, a city staff, and certainly to all of the citizens, not Julie, we're proud of Sergeant 309 00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:24,700 Brockman, it's been set for the employee of the month for January. Just wanted to go over one thing. He's doing a great job as he's taken over the leadership of our CSU, crime suppression union. 310 00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:31,760 And I want to make this one thing back in December, along with the 17th drug test for 311 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:40,760 us, Lebanon, PD, the TBI, and working conjunction with them, I had a convicted felon 312 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:46,540 and doing the surveillance of drugs of aliens, Sergeant Brockman, and other members of that 313 00:30:46,540 --> 00:30:51,000 team, and the four mentioned agency, we're working together. 314 00:30:51,000 --> 00:31:02,260 In the middle on the story, sure, during the investigation that they did, they saw a non-fell and put weapons into a vehicle. 315 00:31:03,140 --> 00:31:14,100 During that time, they began to investigate, they recovered approximately 85 pounds of marijuana, 52 weapons that was rifles and handgunned. 316 00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:20,320 three large gun saves, large amount of ammunition, and the magazines to those handguns and rifles, 317 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:26,420 and other items that were used to process and package and redistribute marijuana. 318 00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:34,720 And doing this investigation also, they were able to seize over $400,000 in U.S. currency, 319 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,940 doing this operation. It started to rock and is doing a phenomenal job in leading the CSU team, 320 00:31:40,940 --> 00:31:43,540 and we crowd them here at the bottom of the TV, 321 00:31:44,020 --> 00:31:44,960 we're going to take you back to that. 322 00:31:50,180 --> 00:31:53,540 And Jason, on behalf of a sin federal credit union, 323 00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:58,720 we give you this $25 visa gift card to you 324 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,060 and say congratulations on being selected as employee of the month. 325 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,480 I don't think I would say is that thanks to my wife, 326 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:30,460 And what I do, there's the phone always rings, the officers are calling, this was, I think 327 00:32:30,460 --> 00:32:34,000 we started this at 8 o'clock at night, starting at home, almost 6 o'clock, things more. 328 00:32:36,380 --> 00:32:41,200 But between officers, the informants and everything else, that I'm always, I'm always on the phone, 329 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,040 I'm always doing something, and she's the one who takes the brown of all of it, 330 00:32:44,220 --> 00:32:47,560 and I mean, you all know that you can stitch when it's calling, he has up in there before too, 331 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,820 it. It just takes it to all when I just want to publicly 332 00:32:50,820 --> 00:32:54,180 ventilate my little board. So thank you. 333 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,420 Mayor, it's good to have one more comment and that's how to 334 00:33:02,420 --> 00:33:06,360 respect for Mr. Cameron, who came tonight in regards to the change in 335 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,520 the ordinance regarding chickens. I'll take full blame for that one. 336 00:33:09,780 --> 00:33:12,660 Mr. Cameron, you and I have our opportunity to meet, but back in my 337 00:33:12,660 --> 00:33:15,340 police chief days, we used to have plenty of subdivisions when the city 338 00:33:15,340 --> 00:33:19,040 was less dense. The allow for chickens and things that nature and 339 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,260 subdivisions, but it became, you know, as we got dentured became tougher to do. 340 00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:24,480 I wanted to explain to Mr. Cameron, I appreciate him, 341 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,660 to come out. He's been nothing but a complete professional 342 00:33:26,660 --> 00:33:29,340 in gentleman, and with our correspondence back and forth, 343 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,160 and he and I will continue to correspond. 344 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,780 I know he's coming from with a tiny house, you know, 345 00:33:34,860 --> 00:33:36,860 there's a lot of things that are changing and evolving. 346 00:33:37,140 --> 00:33:39,760 So he and I will continue to communicate and bring forth 347 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,820 any ideas we may have going forward in the future. 348 00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:43,400 But I'd like to thank him for coming out. 349 00:33:43,780 --> 00:33:46,280 And then when I think I was terrible that we were terrible, 350 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,580 this is something that's pretty common. 351 00:33:49,020 --> 00:33:50,840 And thank you for so much for coming out. 352 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,260 and he and I will continue to conversate from there, Mayor, and other than that, that concludes my report. 353 00:33:55,940 --> 00:33:57,080 Okay, thank you very much. 354 00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:59,320 We're going to go into the business portion of our agenda. 355 00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:02,360 All the microphones are on at the table. 356 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,740 And we will start with item... 357 00:34:05,740 --> 00:34:08,880 Well, actually, 9-1 and 9-2 are poll aren't they? 358 00:34:14,290 --> 00:34:15,890 We need to take action. 359 00:34:16,350 --> 00:34:17,950 Or do we need to just... do they just roll? 360 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:19,610 We need to take action. 361 00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:23,690 And every time I will just put it wrong, 362 00:34:24,890 --> 00:34:26,450 I think we can do the high-end. 363 00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:30,090 I think that's what I want to say. 364 00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:32,530 The F can reset me and ask if it could 365 00:34:32,530 --> 00:34:36,410 especially for two more meetings, which would be a total of four weeks out. 366 00:34:36,590 --> 00:34:37,910 They'd like to bring it back up to this. 367 00:34:38,030 --> 00:34:42,230 And if they do, they don't let us find, but two meetings out four weeks. 368 00:34:42,730 --> 00:34:44,110 So we did need to defer it. 369 00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:45,250 Okay? 370 00:34:45,650 --> 00:34:47,370 All right. Well, we'll have to go through it, I guess. 371 00:34:48,010 --> 00:34:50,010 Can we do a simultaneous flight, anybody object? 372 00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:51,510 No, I don't get it. 373 00:34:51,510 --> 00:35:00,270 Item 9192, an ordinance demanding ordinance number 2012-44, the zoning map adopted July 23, 2012, 374 00:35:00,630 --> 00:35:07,490 as amended by changing the zoning classification of approximately 5.1 acres of land, owned by Bradshaw Properties LLC, 375 00:35:08,190 --> 00:35:18,850 and located at 10645-11 and road, and as described here in from our S40 to commercial retail center, being map 05-4, parcel 02100, 376 00:35:18,850 --> 00:35:26,930 And also, 92, an ordinance of mending ordinance number 2012-44, the zoning map adopted July 23, 2012, 377 00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:33,790 as amended by changing the zoning classification of approximately 1.6 acres of land, owned by James Ars Sullivan, 378 00:35:34,410 --> 00:35:37,090 and located at 1.057-711 in road. 379 00:35:37,350 --> 00:35:40,750 And as described here in, from RS-40, the Commercial Retail Center, 380 00:35:40,750 --> 00:35:47,790 the map 0.5 or parcel 0.2, 3, 0, 0, 0, is there a motion? Motion? Is there a second? 381 00:35:48,690 --> 00:35:52,310 Second? Second. Okay, it's on the table. Is there a motion to defer for two meetings? 382 00:35:53,330 --> 00:35:58,510 I'll make that motion. Second. Any objection? Any discussion on deferral? 383 00:35:58,670 --> 00:36:04,570 All in favor of a deferral, two meetings, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstention? 384 00:36:05,090 --> 00:36:10,010 Okay, that is deferred two meetings by a vote of four zero one. 385 00:36:10,810 --> 00:36:18,030 Next item of business is item nine three, in order in some ending part B of the Unified Development Code of the City of Malcholia, Tennessee. 386 00:36:18,030 --> 00:36:18,850 No, no, no, no. 387 00:36:18,850 --> 00:36:21,950 It's a zoning regulations, ordinance 2001 dash 29. 388 00:36:22,830 --> 00:36:29,990 Adopted October 8, 2001, as amended, by modifying cable 6 dash 102A, permitted and 389 00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:34,990 conditional use in structures allowable within mixed use in commercial districts to take 390 00:36:34,990 --> 00:36:35,810 out restaurants. 391 00:36:36,370 --> 00:36:37,510 Is there a motion? 392 00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:38,910 Motion? 393 00:36:39,150 --> 00:36:39,890 Is there second? 394 00:36:40,930 --> 00:36:43,150 The questions are comments from the commission. 395 00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:45,870 All in favor? 396 00:36:46,110 --> 00:36:47,190 Signify by saying aye. 397 00:36:47,690 --> 00:36:47,830 Aye. 398 00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:53,350 Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Our next item is 9-4. 399 00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:59,950 Nordinants to amend the fiscal year 2015-2016 budget ordinance, 2015-26. 400 00:37:00,610 --> 00:37:06,730 To transfer appropriations from traffic light maintenance to the acquisition of traffic light test equipment. 401 00:37:07,230 --> 00:37:07,730 Sir, motion. 402 00:37:08,670 --> 00:37:11,690 Sir, second? Second. Question to comments from the commission. 403 00:37:11,690 --> 00:37:12,690 This 404 00:37:17,070 --> 00:37:18,690 is one that we want to mend it. 405 00:37:18,830 --> 00:37:23,400 We've got a note to amend the Sheila. 406 00:37:24,340 --> 00:37:25,660 Mayors says 12,000. 407 00:37:26,020 --> 00:37:26,020 It 408 00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:30,390 has. 409 00:37:31,690 --> 00:37:33,430 But it wants to. 410 00:37:33,470 --> 00:37:35,110 We need to amend its 12,000. 411 00:37:37,210 --> 00:37:41,430 I'll make a motion to amend its 12,000. 412 00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:42,350 Okay, and I'll second. 413 00:37:42,590 --> 00:37:44,310 Any questions or comments on the amendment? 414 00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:46,170 All in favor of the amendment. 415 00:37:46,430 --> 00:37:47,570 Signify by saying aye. 416 00:37:49,090 --> 00:37:52,370 back on the ordinance as amended and any questions or comments. 417 00:37:52,970 --> 00:37:55,710 All in favor, signify by saying aye, aye. 418 00:37:56,650 --> 00:37:57,810 Passes unanimously. 419 00:37:58,630 --> 00:38:04,010 Next item is nine five in ordinance to amend the fiscal year 2015-2016 budget ordinance, 420 00:38:04,570 --> 00:38:12,370 2015-26, to recognize donations to the Explorer Program and appropriate donations to the program. 421 00:38:12,530 --> 00:38:15,630 Sir, motion, motion, sir, second, second. 422 00:38:16,350 --> 00:38:17,610 Questions or comments? 423 00:38:19,010 --> 00:38:20,570 We're going to get a shout-out, Kenny. 424 00:38:20,990 --> 00:38:21,630 To the donors? 425 00:38:22,990 --> 00:38:23,110 Absolutely. 426 00:38:23,310 --> 00:38:24,250 Do we know who they are? 427 00:38:24,890 --> 00:38:25,150 Steve. 428 00:38:25,250 --> 00:38:26,150 You're more appropriate. 429 00:38:26,330 --> 00:38:27,090 You're in the fire chief. 430 00:38:27,310 --> 00:38:28,750 As a fire chief, step out. 431 00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:31,630 The one is low, and I believe the other is Walmart. 432 00:38:32,170 --> 00:38:33,050 That was in Walmart. 433 00:38:33,830 --> 00:38:34,790 Chief is not in his head. 434 00:38:35,490 --> 00:38:36,790 And that inadvertently, that target out. 435 00:38:36,810 --> 00:38:37,970 Target low is in Walmart. 436 00:38:38,370 --> 00:38:40,130 And they have been for a long, long time. 437 00:38:40,270 --> 00:38:40,990 We continue to be. 438 00:38:41,050 --> 00:38:42,950 And of course, there's going to be more folks coming on board 439 00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:44,410 as the city continues to grow. 440 00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:49,270 Chiefs nodding his head, so we thank you, Lowe's, Walmart and Tart. 441 00:38:49,530 --> 00:38:49,790 Yes, sir. 442 00:38:49,950 --> 00:38:50,650 Thank you very much. 443 00:38:50,830 --> 00:38:53,450 All in favor of this one, signify by saying aye. 444 00:38:53,490 --> 00:38:53,770 Aye. 445 00:38:54,210 --> 00:38:54,910 Any opposed? 446 00:38:55,630 --> 00:38:56,690 That passes unanimously. 447 00:38:57,790 --> 00:38:58,930 Next item is new business. 448 00:38:59,390 --> 00:39:04,170 111, an ordinance of the city of Mount Juliet to amend the Mount Juliet city code chapter four, 449 00:39:04,650 --> 00:39:12,750 alcoholic beverages by adding section 4-5, retail, food, store, wine, certificate. 450 00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:12,830 Okay. 451 00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:14,390 Sir, motion. 452 00:39:15,530 --> 00:39:15,770 Motion. 453 00:39:16,130 --> 00:39:16,690 Sir, second. 454 00:39:17,250 --> 00:39:17,610 Second. 455 00:39:19,390 --> 00:39:20,450 What are we doing here, genome? 456 00:39:20,770 --> 00:39:21,070 Where are Kenny? 457 00:39:21,230 --> 00:39:22,950 Who's going to take this? 458 00:39:23,410 --> 00:39:23,810 You know? 459 00:39:24,130 --> 00:39:29,550 This is the ordinance to allow wine cells in stores. 460 00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:30,450 Okay. 461 00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:32,230 This came to us from the state. 462 00:39:33,470 --> 00:39:36,010 We drafted this based on the state ordinance. 463 00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:38,890 We really don't have a lot of control over this. 464 00:39:38,890 --> 00:39:43,510 It all goes through the alcoholic beverage commission at the state. 465 00:39:43,930 --> 00:39:45,650 They give them all the approvals for here. 466 00:39:45,810 --> 00:39:47,390 They just have to comply with our zoning. 467 00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:53,910 So this is changing our alcoholic beverages to allow for the zoning treated same way as you 468 00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:59,330 with the sale of beer, not for consumption, but for purchase and leaving. 469 00:39:59,570 --> 00:40:06,830 So it's a hundred foot space between churches, et cetera, and so forth, as it is with the 470 00:40:07,470 --> 00:40:11,830 not for consumption just for clothes containers for sale. 471 00:40:12,430 --> 00:40:15,130 I think there to take this start, I believe, to do live first. 472 00:40:15,390 --> 00:40:16,110 I get it. 473 00:40:16,110 --> 00:40:16,870 If I remember correctly. 474 00:40:16,930 --> 00:40:18,730 July 6th first this year. 475 00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:19,750 Think. 476 00:40:21,170 --> 00:40:21,490 Hang on. 477 00:40:22,270 --> 00:40:27,170 If we do nothing on this, that means it's just open across the board. 478 00:40:27,450 --> 00:40:28,430 Continue to state laws. 479 00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:31,930 Commission justice. 480 00:40:32,610 --> 00:40:33,790 It's kind of what I was going to ask. 481 00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:36,810 I mean, it's just already a state law as a reason why we should put it. 482 00:40:36,810 --> 00:40:43,170 Yeah, they still have to come in and make application to us, make sure they're a good 483 00:40:43,170 --> 00:40:48,150 more character, et cetera, which is part of the TABC. Plus, we can limit it with our zoning 484 00:40:48,610 --> 00:40:50,730 to put some strictures on it. 485 00:40:51,210 --> 00:40:54,770 For example, exercise stores, so you didn't have to want to refer to them, and I guess they're 486 00:40:54,770 --> 00:40:59,350 a grocery store, and have limited amount of groceries, but yet, we want to set a line. 487 00:40:59,530 --> 00:41:02,250 It really turns more into a line store than a grocery store. 488 00:41:02,250 --> 00:41:04,330 You know, some of those stores are, you know, 489 00:41:05,570 --> 00:41:07,150 small or mom-in-law type, first of all. 490 00:41:07,230 --> 00:41:09,270 Are restrictions like that in the end? 491 00:41:09,610 --> 00:41:09,890 Right. 492 00:41:10,110 --> 00:41:15,910 And also make sure that they go through the TABC to furnish those proof 493 00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:18,590 that they're operating, whether they put the burden on us, 494 00:41:19,590 --> 00:41:20,710 to see them sell them something, 495 00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:23,070 then they go have to do the application itself. 496 00:41:24,350 --> 00:41:26,030 I don't know about the others. 497 00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:31,030 I'm a little, I mean, it's not very clear 498 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:36,450 on the new laws that's coming out, is that I mean, for Crowvers probably, it's a 499 00:41:36,450 --> 00:41:40,130 place like that, is where it's at the ones in the allow. 500 00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:43,770 But I'm here in the back of the story, it's not in the allow, it's correct. 501 00:41:45,390 --> 00:41:47,690 What delineates the two? 502 00:41:47,830 --> 00:41:49,570 I mean, what keeps it from the end? 503 00:41:50,350 --> 00:41:51,250 It is now here. 504 00:41:52,510 --> 00:41:55,610 It's following TCA Kitches 7-3-8-6. 505 00:41:55,970 --> 00:42:00,010 They've got to go get the permission from the state before they can come to us to make the application. 506 00:42:00,010 --> 00:42:04,890 So they got us out of the state statute and get us a tip get before they come to us. 507 00:42:04,990 --> 00:42:12,250 Do we know what the state statute is and relates to a grocery store as opposed to, like, the back of Mayor's back of school? 508 00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:24,330 Yeah, say to find a store is the engage in the sale of food, retail, and I don't have it with me, I can pull it up before we get out of here though. 509 00:42:24,330 --> 00:42:30,490 But basically, though, it's enough of the definition, and though that it's going to be a large grocery 510 00:42:30,490 --> 00:42:32,990 Proverbs of publics, et cetera, et cetera. 511 00:42:33,130 --> 00:42:34,850 All these, maybe, exactly. 512 00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:36,830 Math co. 513 00:42:37,570 --> 00:42:38,650 No, we're not co. 514 00:42:39,210 --> 00:42:42,910 No, not co, no, no, that's why there's a clear footage of the clear footage. 515 00:42:43,330 --> 00:42:45,810 Requirements, it has to be a, it's a big store. 516 00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:51,930 It's not a hurry back, uh, right, and that was a convenient, you know, I didn't 517 00:42:51,930 --> 00:42:54,210 like they wanted to make convenience stores, they don't. 518 00:42:56,590 --> 00:43:01,770 It is first reading, so I guess if we need to check it out better, we get in on the second reading. 519 00:43:02,970 --> 00:43:09,510 This as long as it's a specific square footage, it's going to be significant difference. 520 00:43:09,710 --> 00:43:10,910 Like I'm going to map hell in a crowbar. 521 00:43:11,770 --> 00:43:15,330 Yeah, because a smaller star star is usually about 26,000 square feet. 522 00:43:15,730 --> 00:43:16,550 That's what I feel. 523 00:43:16,610 --> 00:43:21,350 Spill croaks are, I guess, can we have the stores put a skull? 524 00:43:21,350 --> 00:43:23,570 I don't think we would need anything else. 525 00:43:23,730 --> 00:43:24,030 That's it. 526 00:43:24,350 --> 00:43:26,010 But it was about 26,000 square feet. 527 00:43:26,170 --> 00:43:26,910 That was at the time. 528 00:43:27,010 --> 00:43:27,430 Our largest. 529 00:43:28,410 --> 00:43:31,030 So you see how much bigger they are now than that. 530 00:43:31,410 --> 00:43:31,510 Okay. 531 00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:34,390 He's broken. 532 00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:35,430 Any other questions? 533 00:43:36,490 --> 00:43:37,210 All in favor? 534 00:43:37,410 --> 00:43:38,710 Signify by saying aye. 535 00:43:39,110 --> 00:43:39,330 Aye. 536 00:43:39,550 --> 00:43:40,230 Any opposed? 537 00:43:40,650 --> 00:43:41,770 That passes unanimously. 538 00:43:42,510 --> 00:43:43,370 Next item is 11. 539 00:43:43,470 --> 00:43:43,790 Two. 540 00:43:43,810 --> 00:43:45,390 An ordinance of the city of Mount Juliette. 541 00:43:45,610 --> 00:43:48,490 To amend the Mount Juliette City Codes article four. 542 00:43:48,490 --> 00:43:58,410 alarm systems, chapter 12 section 12-48 registration fee to amend to allow staggered terms for renewals. 543 00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:59,890 Is there a motion? 544 00:44:00,910 --> 00:44:01,110 Motion? 545 00:44:01,510 --> 00:44:02,170 Okay, I'll second. 546 00:44:02,670 --> 00:44:04,030 Questions or comments? 547 00:44:04,990 --> 00:44:05,650 Commissioner Giles. 548 00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:07,410 It may be in here. 549 00:44:07,730 --> 00:44:11,590 What my concern was or I guess I just a question about it. 550 00:44:12,250 --> 00:44:16,770 Let's say whatever where everything falls into this aid of ALF or whatever it is. 551 00:44:18,250 --> 00:44:25,930 If someone just applies for a permit say today or the end of this month, and then their 552 00:44:27,050 --> 00:44:31,550 goes into that letter, I mean is there a pro-wation to some of this or is there a need to? 553 00:44:31,590 --> 00:44:33,170 Am I just misunderstanding this? 554 00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:36,230 It's not that I'm against it, I just want to, does that make sense? 555 00:44:36,430 --> 00:44:40,250 I mean, it's like I'll lose a little bit because of the pro-wation somewhere in there. 556 00:44:40,250 --> 00:44:49,510 They have been corroborated because it's $10, I believe, a year and it's been automatic renewal at one time. 557 00:44:50,370 --> 00:44:51,090 But do you see what I'm saying? 558 00:44:51,230 --> 00:44:52,070 It's like some of my past $10. 559 00:44:52,290 --> 00:44:53,270 Let me it's not very much. 560 00:44:53,410 --> 00:44:55,430 But I guess you're a long and faded worry and then a more safe. 561 00:44:55,890 --> 00:44:56,170 Yeah. 562 00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:57,750 I mean, that's not quite fair. 563 00:45:00,750 --> 00:45:02,830 Is there anything in there, it's a dress? 564 00:45:04,970 --> 00:45:06,010 Who's sponsorship? 565 00:45:07,290 --> 00:45:09,650 This came from the police department of China. 566 00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:12,730 Do you understand the question? 567 00:45:13,370 --> 00:45:15,230 Okay, what are we going to do about that? 568 00:45:15,590 --> 00:45:16,750 No, no, no, no. 569 00:45:17,290 --> 00:45:17,850 No, no, no, no. 570 00:45:17,850 --> 00:45:20,570 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 571 00:45:21,970 --> 00:45:23,190 Let's do this. 572 00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:24,910 Just come over, we're pro-rated feet. 573 00:45:25,050 --> 00:45:27,470 We come over some type of feet to where 574 00:45:27,470 --> 00:45:32,950 If they're paying on this month, then you're added to play for instance, if it's a 575 00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:35,790 pandemic, it would equal out to $12. 576 00:45:36,570 --> 00:45:39,570 And they would be due to the fall of panic on the public side. 577 00:45:40,210 --> 00:45:42,570 If you're doing this to save staff time, I say. 578 00:45:42,570 --> 00:45:45,050 But it's obvious as the city is growing. 579 00:45:45,710 --> 00:45:50,270 And more and more people are getting their lump in it. 580 00:45:51,230 --> 00:45:55,610 It's for the burning on the staff when it all comes in one time. 581 00:45:55,610 --> 00:45:59,670 because a lot of putting it out and getting those out, 582 00:46:00,590 --> 00:46:03,590 and there are normal days where it's put aside. 583 00:46:04,090 --> 00:46:07,190 So what we're trying to do is make it more efficient to have 584 00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:10,350 to wear a spread out, they can continue there 585 00:46:10,350 --> 00:46:12,790 at that normal work duties as well, 586 00:46:12,930 --> 00:46:16,350 and that'd be so far down in the process of the long run. 587 00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:20,670 I like to go, but that hypothetical that Commissioner 588 00:46:20,670 --> 00:46:27,510 mentioned is pretty severe. Come in and pay on February and then you're because of the 589 00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:31,630 letter of your last name you pay again on March, you know, that could be... 590 00:46:31,630 --> 00:46:37,330 I wouldn't, I wouldn't like that either, but if I'm saying it, it's $10 and then you're talking 591 00:46:37,330 --> 00:46:42,550 about four different times. So you're talking about 250 as long and I would just say, you know, 592 00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:47,910 1250 and then you're not doing until the next, you know, the next time when you're, 593 00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:52,990 they said something y'all can handle in-house or we got a fix that right here. 594 00:46:55,250 --> 00:46:58,390 We would need the word pro ready to go somewhere. 595 00:46:58,810 --> 00:47:07,030 I think what Chief is saying, if you come in February, you would just pay for the rest of that period. 596 00:47:07,210 --> 00:47:14,150 The rest of that period plus the next year or so, like if you pay today, you wouldn't pay again until March of 2017. 597 00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:22,330 We know the right, we know that on your 13 months as to what, or still one in that scenario. 598 00:47:23,530 --> 00:47:25,870 In the middle of it, what is it six months? 599 00:47:26,330 --> 00:47:27,210 I guess. 600 00:47:28,490 --> 00:47:28,790 I guess. 601 00:47:30,590 --> 00:47:32,050 I'm sorry, right. 602 00:47:32,050 --> 00:47:32,850 That's another year. 603 00:47:33,170 --> 00:47:35,910 But then, which that's good to get a bit from, actually. 604 00:47:37,230 --> 00:47:38,910 What is this paper? 605 00:47:49,390 --> 00:47:56,970 I guess my question is why does it, why does an alarm need to be registered with a police department? 606 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:04,640 That has to be registered with an alarm company. 607 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:14,340 it doesn't monitor anything directly, isn't there a fee for it, we call, but we are responding 608 00:48:14,340 --> 00:48:14,800 to those things. 609 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:20,640 You are responding to the call, but that's not worth it, I'm wondering what the... 610 00:48:21,660 --> 00:48:24,620 I don't know, they came in my house one time and I was glad they did. 611 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,120 Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know what that, I mean, you know, I think it was not far along. 612 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:36,520 go off to, you know, of course I pay a monthly bill, or to 80, or whatever, monotronics or 613 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:41,480 whatever it may be. You pay a monthly bill, and then they monitor it again, and as it goes 614 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,660 off, they call, not one one or they call it, please pardon whoever it is, then it please respond. 615 00:48:46,380 --> 00:48:53,100 So I guess my question is, why are we paying a fee? What is it for? What is it painful? 616 00:48:53,100 --> 00:49:01,400 This is why it was explained to me was you had the problem with people going out of town for a week of vacation and the alarm goes off 617 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,000 And I think you asked for additional contact information 618 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,500 So they have somebody in town the contact the turning alarm off instead of the neighbors next door 619 00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:13,600 And have it at a listen to it. They guess they shoot the horn out or something 620 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,360 Now they long the long will receive themselves in a certain period 621 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,680 But it was that they thought about what was explained as the original purpose was to get an extra contact 622 00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:26,120 And so we're going to make him pay $20 a year to get a contract? 623 00:49:26,580 --> 00:49:27,200 $10 a year. 624 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,100 I want $10 a year. 625 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,640 And it's $25 if it's commercial. 626 00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:33,640 This isn't something that just the city of Mount Julia is doing. 627 00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:38,720 This is something that every city across the United States does, really. 628 00:49:39,180 --> 00:49:41,940 That doesn't justify to me to pay. 629 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:45,220 Nobody told me yet what we're paying for while we're getting. 630 00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:50,140 I can tell you, when two guys came to my door and I was glad they did. 631 00:49:50,140 --> 00:49:54,300 the $10.00 it was a false in the $10.00 632 00:49:54,300 --> 00:50:01,160 I didn't begin to cover two guys dropping to my house and not all right absolutely not but I mean my point is 633 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:09,460 and things between me and you just in your career and in my career how many alarm calls do you 634 00:50:09,460 --> 00:50:18,960 like the two of us have answered you think you go up into the thousands probably yeah I mean you know I've been to those 635 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:27,620 And it's in the out of the deal, I mean, you know, when you're on duty, you go to a call, sometimes most of the time it's a call, but that's not a time. 636 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,280 There's also a penalty. 637 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,660 Bro, believe that. 638 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:31,520 I number a call. 639 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:40,700 After two false calls, maybe you don't have it registered, you don't know who to send it to, to penalize it. 640 00:50:42,220 --> 00:50:48,700 So we're making people pay the $10 a year so that we can penalize them later on. 641 00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:55,300 I just see this. I was glad to pay it. I'd rather pay the tan than pay it. 642 00:50:55,580 --> 00:50:59,960 Well, I've got the payment for you. I promise you. And I know the amount of your 643 00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:03,900 employees department, whether you pay that $10 or not, they still would have come to your 644 00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:08,820 house. Yeah? I'm sure. I promise you that. And if they had them, Wilson can't 645 00:51:08,820 --> 00:51:12,480 come to your house. My face is bad enough, Lebanon would have come to your house. I'm very 646 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,400 I just don't the $10, it may seem to help. 647 00:51:17,620 --> 00:51:19,640 It just never makes sense to me to feel done. 648 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,280 So, speed has been around for a while. 649 00:51:23,740 --> 00:51:26,580 Not sure of how it gets, you know, when you get started. 650 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,240 That's what it is. 651 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,360 And nobody knows what it's for. 652 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:31,740 Before our time. 653 00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:32,140 Yeah. 654 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,260 It's good to question. 655 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,300 I mean, I just like to know what it's for. 656 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,500 Can we find out what it actually goes for? 657 00:51:39,740 --> 00:51:41,720 Is it, if somebody has researched before the next meeting? 658 00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:46,460 We had a big, we had a big discussion on this right at the court. 659 00:51:46,860 --> 00:51:48,700 No, actually I was here when it was you. 660 00:51:49,220 --> 00:51:49,860 Yeah, I was. 661 00:51:49,980 --> 00:51:51,540 None of that changed, does it change? 662 00:51:51,620 --> 00:51:52,180 No, no, no. 663 00:51:52,700 --> 00:51:54,420 This is just this part of this. 664 00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:57,920 This is changed from one that we worked so long. 665 00:51:58,180 --> 00:51:59,280 No, remember that? 666 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,520 But that was wrong. 667 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:01,460 The whole thing was doing. 668 00:52:01,460 --> 00:52:02,180 That was wrong. 669 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:03,680 And people come in. 670 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,240 People moving in, getting along. 671 00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:09,320 It's just, you know, is the workload of, you know, 672 00:52:10,020 --> 00:52:11,700 you know, increase from it. 673 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,280 I bet the 10 bucks that need to cover the clerk to process it. 674 00:52:16,460 --> 00:52:18,080 Well, I'll bet. 675 00:52:18,380 --> 00:52:18,440 Hmm. 676 00:52:19,340 --> 00:52:21,060 Paying the neck to write the check. 677 00:52:21,340 --> 00:52:24,380 Tell you the truth for 10 dollar, rather, be more. 678 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,480 Well, when it comes time, you're more than 679 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:29,840 putting money back on the phone. 680 00:52:31,860 --> 00:52:33,640 I didn't have another question for you. 681 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:39,060 But based on this ordinance, it says shall be $120 per month for a direct monitoring 682 00:52:39,060 --> 00:52:40,360 by the city. 683 00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:42,960 Does the city do any direct monitoring? 684 00:52:46,460 --> 00:52:53,020 To my, you know, years ago we used to live in the people who had their alarms to where 685 00:52:53,020 --> 00:52:57,820 we were directly within dispatch and board within dispatch, and white would go off and 686 00:52:57,820 --> 00:52:58,040 off. 687 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:05,000 It was a little green from, yeah, I remember that, yeah, was that not back in the 60s or something, but I don't know. 688 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,000 The business might make sure to, which I'm going to do. 689 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,040 I'm going to do that. 690 00:53:10,460 --> 00:53:12,820 The business might make sure to, which I'm going to do. 691 00:53:12,820 --> 00:53:13,940 I'm going to do that. 692 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:14,620 I'm going to do that. 693 00:53:18,980 --> 00:53:19,480 Y'all go ahead. 694 00:53:19,620 --> 00:53:19,900 I'm sorry. 695 00:53:20,540 --> 00:53:20,620 All right. 696 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:21,920 Other questions or comments? 697 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,880 May I back and get you some clarification? 698 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,120 I'm about to board this time. 699 00:53:25,240 --> 00:53:25,840 Backing this and forth. 700 00:53:26,060 --> 00:53:27,440 How can you make that in that position? 701 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,060 It's first reading. 702 00:53:29,780 --> 00:53:33,080 Okay, all in favor, signify by saying aye. 703 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:33,400 Aye. 704 00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:34,280 Any opposed? 705 00:53:34,820 --> 00:53:35,800 That passes unanimously. 706 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,380 Next item is 113. 707 00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:45,730 An ordinance granting franchise to Peatmont Natural Gas Company incorporated. 708 00:53:47,390 --> 00:53:48,030 Is there a motion? 709 00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:50,070 Sir, second. 710 00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:53,090 I'll second. 711 00:53:54,250 --> 00:53:55,130 Questions or comments? 712 00:53:58,940 --> 00:53:59,700 Almost a great pass. 713 00:54:01,060 --> 00:54:01,960 I don't know, John came up. 714 00:54:02,140 --> 00:54:03,000 I guess he's got something to say. 715 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:09,640 I'll say it's a renewal of a one that we put in 2006, which was a renewal of a one of 716 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:15,620 a thousand or a fact in 1997, I think. There's no real modification to it, other than 717 00:54:15,620 --> 00:54:21,360 they did ask that we extended rather than 10 years to go out 20, and they have offered us 718 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:27,220 an exit clause at the end of 10. So we don't go through this again unless we want to. 719 00:54:28,590 --> 00:54:34,670 And so much of refreshment, everyone. What is ramifications of not doing this? 720 00:54:37,870 --> 00:54:40,330 You're not going to be a gas, so you're not going to be a gas. 721 00:54:40,650 --> 00:54:41,630 So they can whip and buy a gas. 722 00:54:42,850 --> 00:54:44,710 I'm just curious. 723 00:54:47,820 --> 00:54:53,960 You don't want to pay that to happen, but you have to not give up 5% of the gross sales in the revenue part. 724 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,100 Here he is. 725 00:54:55,620 --> 00:54:57,420 I'd like to keep your heat on though, wouldn't you? 726 00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:58,480 Yes, yes. 727 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:08,500 Commissioners, the Tennessee code requires that natural gas companies that are in 728 00:55:08,500 --> 00:55:13,120 best-round natural gas utilities are required to have a franchise in order to provide 729 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,600 service to cities. 730 00:55:15,860 --> 00:55:18,680 So it's a requirement of state law. 731 00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:25,780 And again, I'm just curious, but if another company came in here, they wanted to provide 732 00:55:25,780 --> 00:55:29,020 Yes, service to the city. Would that prevent that from happening? 733 00:55:31,770 --> 00:55:41,270 Under the franchise, as we have put that we have been engaged in, 734 00:55:41,450 --> 00:55:43,890 to provide for an exclusive franchise. 735 00:55:46,370 --> 00:55:51,550 The practical fact, even absent a exclusive franchise, 736 00:55:52,070 --> 00:55:55,950 because of the capital intensive nature of the natural gas business. 737 00:55:57,110 --> 00:56:04,710 It's extraordinarily unlikely that another gas companies would come in and want to overlay 738 00:56:05,650 --> 00:56:10,790 into an existing system on the hopes of gaining customers. 739 00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:15,670 Just because, you know, unlike a telecom franchise or something like that. 740 00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:27,270 like TDS did the call for laying out that capital as you guys know, we have a lot of 741 00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:29,090 allow so many. 742 00:56:29,530 --> 00:56:31,690 It's our cash cropping list again. 743 00:56:32,370 --> 00:56:33,230 There's been. 744 00:56:33,610 --> 00:56:34,790 Thank you. 745 00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:35,070 Yeah. 746 00:56:35,250 --> 00:56:39,130 That explicitness that you were referring to is that from renewal to renewal. 747 00:56:39,870 --> 00:56:43,970 Part of that period for a certain amount of time whether we renew it or not. 748 00:56:45,110 --> 00:56:58,710 That is embodied within the franchise agreement, so if in 10 years if you chose to, if you chose to exit the current franchise and you wanted to remove exclusivity, that would be your option. 749 00:56:59,150 --> 00:57:01,190 But it's for 10 years, that's what this whole thing is for. 750 00:57:01,590 --> 00:57:11,470 This franchise, the franchise, and that's something that John mentioned, what we had asked to do, because of the capital intensive nature of the business. 751 00:57:11,470 --> 00:57:13,470 you know, we're making long-term investments 752 00:57:13,470 --> 00:57:16,410 at just, you do this commissioners and so. 753 00:57:17,050 --> 00:57:19,870 But we also recognize that it seems that 754 00:57:19,870 --> 00:57:23,450 it's not due to the appetite of what's for a 10-year term. 755 00:57:23,630 --> 00:57:26,070 So what we asked to do is to sort of meet in the middle 756 00:57:26,070 --> 00:57:29,210 of the say, this is a 20-year franchise. 757 00:57:29,770 --> 00:57:32,990 However, the city has an exit at 10 years 758 00:57:32,990 --> 00:57:34,610 should you choose to exercise it? 759 00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:37,830 So it's the equivalent of a 10-year franchise. 760 00:57:39,350 --> 00:57:46,150 But I do, and this we're granting you a monopoly, right, for 20 years, and a senior. 761 00:57:49,410 --> 00:57:53,730 I assume that your rates are regulated by state. 762 00:57:54,170 --> 00:57:54,810 That's correct. 763 00:57:54,950 --> 00:58:00,330 Our rates, our rates, our service provisions, our service standards, 764 00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:07,810 all of that's regulated by the 765 00:58:07,810 --> 00:58:15,170 the growth as we grow and you set the vision as coming in and we're within the regional 766 00:58:15,790 --> 00:58:21,090 planning area in five years or maybe another company that we want to come to some area. 767 00:58:22,510 --> 00:58:26,390 So I think it's good to have a time frame on that because I have nothing to just keep on 768 00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:27,150 like you're very good. 769 00:58:27,310 --> 00:58:27,690 They do. 770 00:58:28,890 --> 00:58:33,070 But I think for the city, you know, in five years or maybe another player out there for 771 00:58:33,070 --> 00:58:33,710 some area. 772 00:58:33,710 --> 00:58:37,870 And you know, I would beg so I can make a big deal with the legislature. 773 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:47,000 You know, government's grant legal monopolies, because you don't want to set their gas lines 774 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,480 run all through the city, you know? 775 00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:53,840 You don't want to multiple, you know? 776 00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:56,960 Because the multiple lines, walking measures, there was multiple water companies. 777 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:04,380 And I think that does speak, again, in terms of practicality. 778 00:59:04,380 --> 00:59:13,920 And for practical purposes, you're not going to have that overlay in terms of the public safety for spots and the confusion that is required. 779 00:59:15,060 --> 00:59:20,260 I don't think anybody else has been knocking down the doors, not doing it here lately. 780 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,280 But I guess I have to lay a second set of pipes. 781 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,020 Yeah, I do have a question. 782 00:59:25,020 --> 00:59:28,060 And in the legislature, what Mr. Charles was saying just 783 00:59:28,060 --> 00:59:32,080 minutes ago, and that is that we've got a lot of areas that is not developed. 784 00:59:32,380 --> 00:59:33,520 Yeah, it is going to be developed. 785 00:59:34,660 --> 00:59:37,520 Where P0 does not now have lines. 786 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,620 Now, if another company came in, you wanted to go into that area. 787 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,480 And P0 said, well, that's not something we want to attack right now. 788 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,080 Would that be an opportunity there to proceed, y'all, to allow someone else to 789 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,900 and handle that market, or is that something the child would want to? 790 00:59:58,180 --> 00:59:59,960 I can't speak in the end. 791 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,940 And hop of that, what the situation would be, but I can tell you that we've got a pretty robust infrastructure around within Mount Juliet. 792 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:18,720 And typically how a natural gas utility expands, they don't typically sort of start in an area. 793 01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:28,000 You know, you have to connect out to the transmission infrastructure that's out there. So typically the way a natural gas utility expands as they expand from the center out. 794 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:40,960 creating a new center is extraordinarily difficult, because to do that, then they have to run their own infrastructure to a transmission pipeline to get that going. 795 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:54,920 So, again, in theory, I could see where that could happen, but in practice, just the nature of the way a natural gas system is built, it seems extraordinarily unlikely. 796 01:00:54,920 --> 01:01:14,980 And basically, that's another regulatory type item there so, for instance, as you develop new neighborhoods and they are the franchise, they can't say no, they have to provide the service to those subdivisions. 797 01:01:16,020 --> 01:01:16,040 Correct? 798 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:25,040 Well, we, because we're a regulated utility, every customer sort of has to stand on its own. 799 01:01:25,460 --> 01:01:35,260 Our regulators don't like the notion of your existing customer subsidizing service at a new subdivision. 800 01:01:35,260 --> 01:01:41,060 So if it doesn't make, if it's not economically viable, 801 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:46,320 our regulator won't let us subsidize, subsidize a customer 802 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:46,820 growth. 803 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,160 But I can also tell you that the most important thing, 804 01:01:51,660 --> 01:01:54,700 the most important thing for P. Mont Natural Gas is safe. 805 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,540 Next to that, though, is we want to continue 806 01:01:58,540 --> 01:02:00,040 to take care of our existing customers. 807 01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:02,200 And we want to continue to grow our customers, 808 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,220 because unlike the public sector, it's a business. 809 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,960 And growth, customer growth is one of our primary goals. 810 01:02:10,660 --> 01:02:13,340 So I can assure you that at any chance, 811 01:02:13,820 --> 01:02:17,580 but we have to add to our customer base, 812 01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:20,120 it's good for P-min and it's good for the city 813 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,140 because of our financial arrangement that we have. 814 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,920 So I would say to one of the things that each of you can do 815 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,080 as new developments come online is to ask them 816 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:39,700 or not, they're utilizing natural gas, and then they say no, they say why not, and if you still don't get a great answer, tell me, we'll try to work it out. 817 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:45,060 Well, let me just cut that one in half or I'm calling you right now. The people in my district don't work off a webinar, 818 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:52,120 not, but don't have access against it. If you can handle that next week or two, I'd really appreciate it. 819 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,340 I'll certainly give a shot. Thank you. 820 01:02:56,340 --> 01:03:04,060 And for give us on the question, the whole American systems based on competition, and so we're 821 01:03:04,060 --> 01:03:08,780 granting you a monopoly, and consumers typically aren't real comfortable with monopolies. 822 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:15,000 So, of course, we have a re-operative monopoly with our sewer system, so we have the same 823 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:21,860 kinds of similar type goals and objectives in servicing customers expand the system in 824 01:03:21,860 --> 01:03:23,260 the form of support. 825 01:03:24,260 --> 01:03:26,240 Anyway, now the question is a comments. 826 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:27,960 All in favour? 827 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,620 Think if I buy a saying aye? 828 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:31,020 Any opposed? 829 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,260 That passes unanimously. 830 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:33,500 Thanks. 831 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:35,000 Yes, sir. 832 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:36,240 Before we... 833 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:37,940 Before we move on, if I could. 834 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,420 Got in several emails and text alerts about the 835 01:03:42,420 --> 01:03:44,100 durian road conditions. 836 01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,460 I don't know if there's anything left on the agenda that we might want to 837 01:03:47,460 --> 01:03:50,100 consider flooding off to the next sort of picture. 838 01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:51,700 We're at the end of it, isn't that bad? 839 01:03:52,060 --> 01:03:52,700 Yeah, I see. 840 01:03:52,700 --> 01:03:57,840 I'm sorry to interrupt, but that's good point, that's good point. 841 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,300 So much for the desk, and we got the desk in earlier, but whatever's happened since 842 01:04:01,300 --> 01:04:06,640 has been a little bit more in Mayer, where that said I'd like to pull my particular item indefinitely 843 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,080 until further notice, which you want to let in for? 844 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:09,880 Yes, sir. 845 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:14,580 Okay, let in for is pulled until later notice, what else we got? 846 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:26,400 115, sounds like he can roll, that okay? Kenny, justor. 115 rolls, 116. Can y'all just do that real quick for me? 847 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:32,800 Get appointments to the Parks Board, Parks and Greenway Board, Gay Lynn Wilson and Rick Williams. 848 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,620 They both provided BIOS for you. I hope you had a chance to check them out. 849 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,200 Be great additions to our Parks and Greenway Board. 850 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:41,860 All in favor? 851 01:04:43,820 --> 01:04:49,670 That's just an appointment with the confirmation by the board so all in favor of those two sing if I'm by saying aye 852 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:56,040 Okay, thank you all and then we have one more. We've got to do any stop is 853 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,800 being nominated to 854 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,700 Continue to serve on the Board of Equalization for another one year two year term. Sorry 855 01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:09,720 Two year term. That's also a nomination by me in a vote on the out by the commission all in favor of 856 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,700 He's not serving in that role, I think if I'm by saying aye. 857 01:05:13,340 --> 01:05:13,780 Aye. 858 01:05:14,460 --> 01:05:15,360 And he posed. 859 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:17,680 And Commissioner Abs. 860 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:18,680 And you want to roll your? 861 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:19,040 Yeah. 862 01:05:19,100 --> 01:05:21,220 The last two items are discussions. 863 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,860 So we'll just roll those to the next. 864 01:05:24,380 --> 01:05:26,320 Lemonate in the 11-9 will be rolled. 865 01:05:26,820 --> 01:05:28,560 If you're out on the road, please be safe. 866 01:05:28,740 --> 01:05:31,280 We're going to go ahead and abruptly close our meeting. 867 01:05:32,140 --> 01:05:33,000 They're all exposed. 868 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,080 So that we need a motion to adjourn. 869 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,120 For a second, all in favor of adjournings. 870 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,300 We are adjourned. Thank you all very much.