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Okay, I've got six o'clock. Let's get
this party started.

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I would like to welcome everyone to the
February 10th, 2000. No, not 10th.

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» Wrong date.
>> Uh February 24th, 2026 planning and

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zoning meeting for the city of Nampa.
Um, we really appreciate your attendance

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and being part of helping us shape the
future of the city. Um, let's start with

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roll call, please.

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» Here,
>> Copeland. Kirkman. Morgan

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» here.
>> Kho

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» here.
>> Turner

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» here.
>> Daffer here.

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» Miller
>> here. Garner

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» here.
>> All right. You have a quum.

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» Thank you.
have a report

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Ashby.

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Good evening. Um, chairman and
commissioners. Rodney Ashby, planning

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and zoning director. For the record, um,
we had several projects go before a

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couple of projects go before the city
council last week. The first one was the

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subdivision final plaque approval for
Middle Mbury North number four and this

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was northwest of Orchard Avenue and
Midway Road. Um you had recommended

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approval on the 10th of uh February.
This was for 13 single family detached

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dwelling units and four common lots. And
the city council did approve that. The

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next one was a public hearing for
annexation and um zoning for the ride

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ofway along Cherry Lane um as part of
the East Ranch subdivision. Really

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simple one. If you recall, we just we
they just missed some right away that

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they needed to incorporate into the
annexation and so that one was approved.

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You had recommended approval as well.
And then um the next one was a variance

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of 102320
limiting permanent freestanding pole or

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monument signs in the BC zone. Uh this
is near the um or excuse me northwest of

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Lake Lel Avenue and 12th Avenue Road. Uh
right along um

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you know I'm trying to think of the name
of the shopping center there where True

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Value.
>> Thank you. Hawaii Center. Um and uh that

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one was approved for a little bit larger
sign and um height. Essentially, they're

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keeping the same sign height. It was
just approved in the past when it was

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allowed at that height and now our
current code would not allow it and

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they're just um putting in a new sign.
Um and then last of all was annexation

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and zoning for Orchard Acres
um to BC and Orchard Acres is one south

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of Greenhurst Road east of um Happy
Valley Road. Um, you had recommended

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denial and there was five yeses and
three nos on that one due to traffic uh

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concerns and uh the proximity of the
train and congestion

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um impact to schools and multifamily
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the hearing and uh city council as well
denied that uh project. So that was a

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four to two vote and that's all I have
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» Thank you,

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» Mr. Chairman.
>> Yes.

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» I make a motion that we remove from the
consent agenda subdivision final plan

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approval for Mberry South number one at
zero Midway Road uh for Kent Brown

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representing Endurance Holdings LLC.
Original concept was for 50 single

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family detached lots and seven common
lots and the applicant has requested to

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put this on hold. So I would make a
motion that we remove from the consent

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agenda.
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» Been moved by Garner, seconded by Daffer
to remove this item from the consent

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agenda. All those in favor?
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» Any opposed?
>> Okay, we'll go ahead and remove that

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item.
>> And chairman, if I may, um maybe a

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clarification on the motion. Is this to
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or to continue it to a later date?
>> So some clarification for that. They're

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not ready to do anything with it at this
point. They will resubmit and we will

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put them on a new agenda when they
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» Okay.
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» Well, we might just for clarity sake,
we'll maybe have another motion to

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remove it entirely from the entire
agenda.

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» Okay. Because usually when we lift
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into the remainder agenda for further
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» Okay?
>> And so this will just be lifting it from

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the entire agenda.
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» Mr. Mr. Chairman, for clarification
purposes, I recommend that we remove the

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subdivision final plat approval for M
middleberry south number one at zero

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Midway Road parcel number as noted in
the staff report for Kent Brown

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representing Endurance Holdings LLC.
Original concept was for 50 single

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family detached lots and seven common
lots and remove it from the agenda

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entirely.
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» that works. Thanks, sir. Again moved by
Garner, seconded by Daffer to remove

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this item completely from the agenda.
All those in favor?

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» I.
>> Any opposed?

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» Okay. This item will be removed.
>> Mr. Chairman.

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» Yes.
>> I recommend that we approve the amended

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consent agenda removing the item just
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» Second.
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by Daffer to approve the consent agenda
that is now amended. All those in favor

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» Okay. Consent agenda has been passed.
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» Updated.
Um Okay. So, we'll go ahead and get

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started with our meeting. Um if you
haven't been to our meeting before, we

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will allow the uh applicant to come up.
They'll have time, five minutes to

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present what they would like to do with
their item. Um then we'll turn the time

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over to staff. They will give us their
report. They have unlimited time. Then

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we'll open it up for public hearing at
which time you can come up and speak

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for, against, or undecided on each item.
Um, you will have three minutes to tell

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us what you think about the project,
whether you like it, you don't like it,

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and why. Um, we're all pretty good about
taking notes. Uh, applicants are usually

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pretty good about taking notes. And then
when the public is done speaking, we'll

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call the applicant back up and ask those
questions of them at that point. so you

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guys can um hear what they have to say
um and hopefully answer some of your

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questions. We'll also ask some questions
of staff because those are always

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brought up as well. So, um, we'll go
ahead and get started with item 3-1,

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conditional use permit for barber or
beauty shop, day-pa nail salon, Grace

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Beauty Company in the CN zoning district
in CH Form District at 12213th Avenue

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South for Desiree Vasquez. We're
representing Ian Lawson.

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» Um, and thank you for allowing me to
speak. My name is Desire Vasquez and I'm

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the owner of Grace Beauty Co. Salon. I
am here to today to respectfully request

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approval of our permit so we can
continue to operate and serve our

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community. Grace Beauty Co. was founded
with the vision of creating a family

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oriented salon environment that is
welcoming, peaceful, and grounded in

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strong values. We strive to provide a
space where clients of all ages feel

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comfortable. mothers and daughters,
families, and individuals who want not

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just beauty service, but genuine care
and connection. While there are other

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salons in our area, our business offers
something intentionally different. We

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focus on a calm, serviced driven
atmosphere that reflects our commitment

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to kindness, integrity, and treating
every guest with respect. Our goal is

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not to compete with neighboring
businesses, but to complement the local

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marketplace by serving clients who are
specifically looking for this type of

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environment. As a small locallyowned
business, we contribute to the community

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by supporting independent professionals,
creating flexible employment

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opportunities and encouraging our team
members to grow their careers while

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serving the people of Nampa. Our clients
are local residents, families, and

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neighbors, and we are proud to be part
of the fabric of the city. We are

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committed to operating responsibly,
maintaining a professional and

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well-managed space, and being a positive
presence in the area. Approving this

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permit allows us to continue building a
business that reflects the values of

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family service and community care. Thank
you for your time, your consideration,

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and your support of local small
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» Thank you.
>> Oh, could you give your address for the

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record, please? Name and you already
gave your name and address.

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» Uh 121 South Georgia Avenue, Cal, Idaho
83605. Thank you.

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» Okay, Damian, you're up.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman and

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commissioners. Damian Snodgrass,
associate planner. So, the requested

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action item today is for a conditional
use permit for a barber or beauty shop,

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day spa or nail salon. This is more
specifically a nail salon. Um, within

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the CN Central Nampa zoning district and
the CH Form district. Um, going to go

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into some of that code since we just
recently had a code change where we

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adopted formbbased code. So this will be
our first application coming through

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that falls under those new zoning
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So the property details, it's in the
downtown comprehensive map designation

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and the current zoning is CN, but is
specifically under that CH central

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historic form district. To the north,
south, east, and west, we have all

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similar form districts and zones, and
there are current utilities to the

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property.
The applicable regulations here are the

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criteria for a conditional use permit
which we can cover in the findings as

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well as some applicable regulations for
formbased code. So form-based code is

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was implemented so that we can
redefine and show the form and look and

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feel of the downtown area. And in doing
so we have more building requirements

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and things like that that will go into
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However, since this is a change of
occupancy um and we'll have a tenant

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improvement to the existing building and
the building itself isn't changing, we

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can apply all of the criteria for those
downtown implementations with this kind

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of application. So, we took some of the
code that we know that we can apply to

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this under the use table in 10153C.
uh barber shop, beauty, salon, and spa

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falls under localized services, which is
a conditional use permit for this

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specific type of localized service
within the CH form district. And over on

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the right here, we have a map of the
form district. And just to go over that

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for everybody, the the form districts
fall under that CM zoning district. So

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there are different looks and feels
within each form district that falls

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under the same zoning. So each forum
district will have different criteria

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that it has to adhere to and follow as
well as land uses within those.

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So for this one, we did a downtown
analysis of that. And looking at the

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pre-existing building, I attached a
photo in your staff report of the

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pre-existing building. it mostly follows
the row building type um within this

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zone on the requirements because the
building itself doesn't conform with

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what we would want for a new row type.
We just took the criteria that we can

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apply to the existing one which is on
the ground floor a localized service

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would be a permitted use and the
required occupied space which is a 30-ft

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minimum from all the facade and full
doors. The required occupied space is

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the space within the front of the
building that is usable and walkable and

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open. Basically, what this allows is
stopping from storage or something

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blocking the windows essentially. So,
you can't put all of your storage right

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on the front of the window and you look
in, you can't see what it is. 30 ft from

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that window, you have to have usable
space. Whether in this case it's nail

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salons and you see people when you walk
by the look and feel of downtown is you

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can look in and see that it is a nail
salon and it's not blocked off on the

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windows. And so with that looking at the
existing building and the criteria that

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we can apply we found most of these to
be not applicable. So I took a lot of

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that criteria out that we would apply to
the row building type and just kept

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these ones be for this kind of
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And here are some pictures of a row
building type as defined within that

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area of code. Again, this building does
not conform with that code since it is

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only one story. Um, and within this
zone, we would need them to be minimum

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of two stories. So, this is just the
criteria that we felt we could attach to

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this conditional use permit.

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For correspondence, we received a
comment from the building department and

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their criteria and conditions are that
it follows all of the city ordinances

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and codes for title 4 building
regulations. And with that, having a

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tenant improvement permit pulled for the
change of occupancy and any remodeling

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or occu or alterations to the scope of
the space. A licensed architect will

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have to provide a code analysis for any
design change of the nail salon, any

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mechanical, electrical, plumbing, and
structural permits as well as mechanical

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ventilation permits that are required
for a nail salon. And uh all of that

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needs to come through a licensed
architect or engineer as well as some

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accessibility requirements as far as ADA
requirements will have to be addressed

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at the time of the building permit. For
public comments, we did receive one late

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comment. Um, we received one comment
from the neighboring business um,

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regarding the amount of barber shops and
salons going along in the area along

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with health and safety concerns of
neighboring tenants and most is most of

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this was in regards to the ventilation
system which is addressed by the

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building tenant improvement which will
be later on in the conditions.

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So here are those criteria that the
proposed use is supported by the NRA

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comprehensive plan. That the design,
construction, operation and maintenance

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of the property and project will not
adversely impact the intended character

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and appearance of the general vicinity.
That the proposed use is served

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adequately by essential public
facilities and services. and that the

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proposed use will not involve any
activities or processes, materials,

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equipment and conditions of operation
that will be detrimental to any persons,

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property or general welfare by reason of
excess traffic, noise, smoke, fumes,

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glares or odors.
Here are those proposed findings. Um the

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biggest ones to bring into the relevant
facts is that the proposed use must

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conform to that international building
code and adhere to those HVAC

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ventilation standards to mitigate any
kind of fumes or odors that may be

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emitted from this type of business. And
as far as the other ones is that it will

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conform to the central Nampa historic
form district design standards if there

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was anything to happen to the outside of
the building. Um the proposed uses near

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other businesses of the same use, sewer,
water, irrigation services already

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provided to the property and the NA
comprehensive plan describes objectives

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of the downtown regarding business and
development expansion which includes

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professional services as such. So
weighing all of the facts and criteria

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under the conditional use permit, staff
found that these criteria were to be

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met.
Here are the proposed conditions. That

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the applicant owner shall comply with
all city codes, policies, and standards

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at time of building permit, including
those listed by the building department.

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And that the applicant maintains the
requirements of the row building type

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during the duration of the cup. And
listed is the ground floor use of

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keeping that use on the ground floor and
that the required occupied space be used

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with having that 30 foot of walkable
open space within the front of that

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building. And any others that the
commission may add. Here are your pot

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here are your potential motions and I
will stand for any questions.

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» Damian,
in your opening statement, you mentioned

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a letter from another business next door
to this

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u business they want to open and they
were talking about they should have a

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ventilation system which you mentioned.
Um, if you agreed and required the new

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business
to have a ventilation system, could you

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go back or could we go back and say to
the business that's asking them to have

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a ventilation system that they should
have their own because they have tobacco

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products that have an odor in
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So when it comes to back requiring
another business to update their

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systems, that would more fall under the
building department. A tenant

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improvement or change of occupancy would
need to happen to bring it up to

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different codes or standards. And um the
building department would determine then

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what are those applicable criteria in
accordance to the building code that

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would be required for their kind of
business type. But as it sits right now,

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they would have to come back in for some
type of construction

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to that building to back require them to
get a new ventilation system. So they

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would have to come through and get a
building permit. Let me rephrase the

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question because I'm not sure you
answered what I was thinking of.

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» Can an existing business require a new
business to do something that they are

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not required to do themselves
like the ventilation system? In other

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words, can the new guy say to the old
guy, "Well, you don't have one, so why

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do I have to have one or whatever?"
>> Mr. Chairman and Commissioner Kho, um,

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so
they can make that comment to you,

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but the building department has the
requirement on the tenant improvement.

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So, whenever someone comes in to move
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department can require it. The neighbor
can't come and say, "You shall do these

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things." It's it's up to building code
to make that determination.

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» But but if building code people said,
"Yeah, it's a good idea. You should do

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it." Can the new Can they go back to the
other guy and say, "Well, your your

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product smells just as bad, if not
worse, than ours does."

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» Not if they've already been approved to
be in that space. If they have

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certificate of occupancy for that space
and they've met the codes for their type

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of a business, then no.
>> Okay. So, it's do as I say, not do as I

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do.
>> Thank you very much. You're welcome.

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» I think it'd be helpful to state that
it's not the opinion of the code

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official either. It's what's required by
the building code.

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» But does that apply to the new one and
the old one or do you

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» It applies to all of them.
>> But it depends when the code was adopted

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because maybe when the business that's
next door went in, that specific item

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wasn't
>> a code. They didn't have to

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» wasn't in the code.
>> But the it's the code says if you have

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this type of product, you have to have
this type of ventilation. It's not the

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building official takes a sniff and
says, "I don't like it and I'm going to

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require it."
>> Right.

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» Same thing.
>> I just wanted a level playing field. I

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can't They didn't want one guy beating
up the other guy.

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» Right. They should be under whatever
code was in effect at the time.

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» Yeah.
>> Same thing with the business. You can't

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They can say literally anything they
want. It's just whatever's in the code

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at the time you apply. So,
just because they said it doesn't mean

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it's going to happen.
>> Right. Thank you all.

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» Mr. Mr. Chair, can I ask a
>> please

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» question? The other concern that was
raised was saturation of the market in

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that area.
My tendency is to let the market

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determine what businesses would be
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Is there a planning reason to be worried
about a saturation of a certain type of

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business in an area? Like is what's your
thoughts on that?

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when it comes to um other in this
instance a conditional use is coming

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before you in a public hearing but in
the instance that other areas where this

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business would be permitted um we don't
have any plans in place that go over the

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specific occupancy of each individual
building

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» um and in the findings that this
business type is permitted in a lot of

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other commercial type business zones and
if every single one of them became a a

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barber shop. There's nothing in planning
code that would dictate that we limit

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the amount of each business type in each
different zone.

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» So, there's not a a planning principle
that you learn in school that teaches

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you to avoid clustering certain types of
businesses. I didn't go to planning

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school. I don't know.
>> Now, you're just being

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» No, these guys are planning
professionals. They learn these there's

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principles behind this stuff, right? So,
I'm not trying to be facitious.

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like I like a diversity of businesses
seems healthy too.

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» Yeah, Mr. Chairman.
>> Um, so that's why I was wondering and

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and maybe would you like to speak to
maybe you don't want to speak to why

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this particular business requires a CUP
versus other types?

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It is within the adopted code that right
now under the central NPA that this

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business type is conditional
um as adopted within this code um the

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code would need to come back forth and
be changed in front of city council if

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» council decided otherwise.
>> Thanks Mr. Chairman Kman. As to the

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proliferation of the same type of
business, that's actually a healthy

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thing because it tends to weed out the
poor

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businesses, the ones that don't do a
good job. Um because the competition

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will drive them out of business. So
that's a healthy thing to have, not not

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a detriment.

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Anybody else?
Okay, we'll go ahead and open the public

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testimony portion of our meeting up.
Madam clerk, is there anybody signed up?

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» Okay. Is there anyone that would like to
speak for, against, or undecided on this

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specific item?

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Okay, Vasquez, would you like to come
back up?

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» Any questions we have for
>> any other comments you'd like to make?

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» She I Mr. Mr. Chairman,
>> did you get and are you in agreement

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with the conditions as they've been
stated in the staff report? Are you

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aware of them?
>> Yes. So, we have our own laws too within

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like the Idaho, you know, so the
ventilation system. I already knew that

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was going to be
>> Yeah. So,

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» Okay, perfect.
>> Yeah.

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» Okay.
>> Thank you.

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» Okay, I guess we're good. Thank you,
>> Mr. Chairman. Yep. I'll make a motion

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that we close the public hearing.
>> Second.

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» It's been moved by Garner, second by Kho
to pl the close the public hearing. All

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those in favor?
>> I.

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» Any opposed?
>> Okay. Public hearing is closed.

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Thoughts, ideas?

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» I say more than
market, let it work itself. Y

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» Yeah,
>> I agree. I think the people she brought

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with them seemed to be fairly passionate
about what they do. And I could tell by

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the looks on their faces as she was
giving her proposal that they are and

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they're they're they want to do this for
the right reason. So I I think

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» anything to do with the gun on any of
the address?

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» No.
>> Oh, okay.

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» I think I think I think uh I think
they'll do well.

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» Yeah, I think so, too.
>> That's on the record, Steve.

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» Mr. Chair.
>> Yeah. I move to approve the project as

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stated on screen with recommended
conditions and proposed findings.

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» I'll second it.
>> Okay. It's been moved by Daffer, second

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by Garner to approve this item. All
those in favor?

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» I
>> I.

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» Any opposed?
>> Okay.

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This cup will become effective 15
calendar days from the date the written

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decision and reason statement is
provided to the applicant unless an

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appeal has been filed with the planning
and zoning department with the

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appropriate fee. No action should be
taken on this CUP until the appeal

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period has concluded. The applicant must
confirm with the planning and zoning

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staff that there have been no appeals.
>> Okay.

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» Thank you.

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You don't have to you don't have to hang
out for the rest of night if you don't

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want to.
>> You're good to go.

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» Thank you so much.
>> Okay. Item 3-2, conditional use permit

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for automobile or truck repair for
budget tires at 102 11th Avenue North

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and 106 11th Avenue North for Javier
Gonzalez.

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» Oh, how you doing?
>> Okay, just name and address for the

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record and tell us what you want to do.
>> Uh, Javier Gonzalez Jr. My address is

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408 2nd Avenue North here in Nampa. Uh
the address is 1021 11th Avenue North

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right in front of Commercial Tire.
>> Okay.

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Tell us about what you want to hear.
>> Um so I'm the owner of Budget Tires on

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Third Street North and 11th Avenue North
of one block away. Uh we just acquired

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this building. We will be performing the
same thing just one block away and that

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is uh selling new and used tires and
performing just auto repair light auto

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repair uh auto maintenance and just
providing more affordable

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tire service instead of going to like
bles and commercial. So it's kind of

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like a little bit cheaper option for
people that are in a a good spot. So

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sometimes they just can afford a used
tire and they can't get new tires at the

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time. So this is just affordable option
for the area. And it's been pretty

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successful. We've done about 20,000
vehicles since we've been open since a

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year and a half. And our projections are
somewhere around 10,000 to 15,000

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vehicles per year that we'll be
servicing. And most of them are

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residents of Nampa.
And yeah, that's that's about it. Any

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questions?
>> Um, no, I don't think so.

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» Right now,
>> no pet cremation services.

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» No, not not at this time.
>> Okay.

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» Okay. Appreciate it. We'll call you back
up.

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» Thank you.

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» Okay, Damian.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chairman and

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Commissioner. Damian Snodgrass,
associate planner. The requested action

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item tonight is a conditional use permit
for automobile or truck repair for

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budget tires at 1021 11th Avenue North
and 106 11th Avenue North. And uh the

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concept is to sell tires, fix flats, and
occasionally break pads.

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So, some of the property details
currently this is under the BC community

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business zone and to the kind of
northeast we have the BC zoning which is

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the Eagles Bar. Southeast um couldn't
find the actual use of the building but

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it is a cinder block building that is
also commercial. To the southwest we

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have the zoning for the Union Pacific
Railard and to the northwest we have

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zoning which is the commercial tire. Um
and as far as public utilities and

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services, there's already services to
the property.

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Here are those applicable regulations
for a conditional use permit. We'll

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cover those in the findings.
And here are some more applicable

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regulations. So, a conditional use
permit is required when located within

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the BC Community Business Zoning
District, as well as some of the off-

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streetet parking spaces required uh for
this type of business use. Um due to the

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change of use on the property and the
adjoining property, which right now is a

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vacant lot, um there will have to be
some site improvements that are done to

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the property, including adding striping
for parking and things of that nature to

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improve the property up to current city
standards.

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Here is a part of the the building
plans. uh before the conditional use

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permit came forward, a building permit
was submitted and that's what started

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this process of just kind of the
proposed use of wanting to store some

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tires with a fence, adding a landscape
buffer and then conversion of the

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existing building into a tire shop.

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So for correspondence from Nampa
Development Engineering, um we received

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some comments uh about the existing
utilities in the area as well as some

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notation around the construction of the
parking lot for that 106 11th Avenue

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North to be reviewed by Idaho
Transportation Department. So the

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conditions are that the applicant owner
shall comply with all city codes,

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policies, and standards at the time of
the building permit.

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From the Nampa Fire District, we
received some general fire access and

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water supply comments. In addition, we
received some comments regarding the the

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specific type of fire mitigation that is
necessary for the storage of tires

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outside. So with under planning and
zoning requirements, we would require a

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design reviewed fence to shield any of
that exterior storage of merchandise on

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the side of the building, which is
allowed. However, the storage of tires

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up to a certain margin will kick in some
fire requirements, and the Nampa Fire

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District provided those um within their
comments of what that'll specifically

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be. The M Nampa building department
reviewed the proposed conditional use

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permit and had some other specifications
regarding the tenant improvement that

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will be required for the change of
classification of the building. U which

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include things like fire separation
within the building that has to be done

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by a licensed architect and that the
change of occupancy has to go with the

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international existing building code and
bring the building up to compliance for

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the proposed use. Here
are those propo find proposed findings

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that the proposed use is supported by
the Nampa comprehensive plan and this is

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designated as commercial and this falls
under one of those commercial uses. Um

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so staff found this to be met
but the design construction operation

425
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:21,120
maintenance of the property and project
will not adversely impact the intended

426
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:25,519
character and appearance of the general
vicinity. Um, it fits in with

427
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:32,480
neighboring land uses, having another
tire shop directly across the street,

428
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:36,880
um, and fits in with that general area,
and it will utilize an existing building

429
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:40,720
and have improvements to the facade. So,
staff found this to be met. there is

430
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:44,480
currently utilities available to the
property

431
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,840
and that the proposed use will not
involve any activities, processes,

432
00:33:46,159 --> 00:33:51,840
material, equipment and conditions of
operation that will be detrimental to

433
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:57,679
any persons, property or general welfare
by reason of excess traffic, noise,

434
00:33:54,000 --> 00:34:03,679
smoke, fumes, glares or odors. Um and
under this that the proposed use uh will

435
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:09,040
have mitigations put in place by the
building code and the fire code that

436
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:12,560
will mitigate any of those noise smoke
fumes glares or odors that may come from

437
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:17,839
a business of this type. And when it
comes to traffic, businesses are meant

438
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:23,440
to generate traffic to a certain margin.
Um and so they it will not propose a use

439
00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:27,359
that would generate any type of excess
traffic from the others in the

440
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:31,359
surrounding use. So staff found this to
be met.

441
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,879
Here are those proposed conditions of
approval that the applicant owner shall

442
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:39,119
comply with all city codes, policies and
standards at time of property

443
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:42,879
development or redevelopment and prior
to the issuance of a certificate of

444
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:47,520
occupancy. So this includes the
conditional use permit which will have

445
00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:51,359
any sub permits associated with that.
floor plans, landscaping and irrigation

446
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:55,520
plans, fencing plans, parking
improvement plan plans with striping and

447
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:59,760
ADA compliance, and any sign permits
that will need to be done on the

448
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:03,040
property to add any signage. That the
conditional use permit is granted only

449
00:35:01,359 --> 00:35:06,720
to the current owner of the property and
location for the duration of the use and

450
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,720
shall not be transferable to any other
owner or location. that they comply with

451
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:17,200
all city codes policies and standards
and that any proposed construction on

452
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:21,680
the lot for 106 is subject to ITD review
or comment and any others that the

453
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:26,920
commission may impose.
Here are your potential motions and I

454
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,920
will stand for any questions.

455
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:36,400
» Mr. Chair,
>> yes. Um, regarding the ITD comments, I

456
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:41,680
don't know if this is Daniel question.
They're saying the only way to get in is

457
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:46,800
through the alleyway and then the and
then exit only onto 11th.

458
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:52,720
» There are currently approaches onto
11th. With the change of use, ITD will

459
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:58,160
um want to review that and may require
changes to the access on 11th. Um

460
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:03,200
ultimately that is ITD's jurisdiction
and their decision. Um so the condition

461
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:07,520
is just there so that um the applicant
is aware that with in that building

462
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:13,599
permit process ITD they will have to
contact ITD and determine what their

463
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:18,160
requirements will be for um the accesses
on 11th. My anticipation is there

464
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:21,040
currently two accesses there. My
anticipation is one of them will be

465
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,480
required to be closed.
>> But can one of them be an entry? Did I

466
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:30,560
see somewhere on there that it might be
an exit only? Um,

467
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:34,960
I didn't do the specific review on that
and it looks like the applicant may be

468
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:38,000
able to speak to that. Um, they may have
already contacted ITD and had

469
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,800
discussions.
>> Okay. I don't know if I should opine

470
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:45,760
now, but that would be a little bit
concerning to me because as you know,

471
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:52,720
First Street one way there. So, if
you're not if you're coming from the

472
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:57,359
eastern side of town,
kind of a weird way to get in there if

473
00:36:54,880 --> 00:37:01,200
if it's only a if you can't get on there
on 11th

474
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:05,440
and you can't get on there on first if
you're going the wrong way.

475
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:09,040
» Well, and the reality is I mean, you'd
be able to go up to second to come

476
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:12,880
around the block and and access it that
way or the alley.

477
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:16,800
» Come long way down the alley
>> or or come down the alley. Yes. Or what

478
00:37:15,359 --> 00:37:23,440
was the other way you said?
>> Go down Second Street to 12th around the

479
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:25,839
block and and up first.
>> Oh, all the way to 12th.

480
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,359
» Sure.
>> Okay.

481
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:32,359
» Wait, what?
>> Yeah.

482
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:38,800
» Second. Well, you couldn't turn into
there from 11, though, right?

483
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,960
» Well, I think you're coming from west to
east.

484
00:37:39,359 --> 00:37:45,599
» What if you're coming from east to west?
>> You'd have to go all the way around the

485
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:50,240
city block back out.
Unless you turned early and went down

486
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:54,960
like fourth and then went over and
through the back way down the alley.

487
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,200
» There's ways.
>> Make maps for your customers.

488
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,359
» There's ways.
>> No, that's that's not

489
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,240
» I guess I'm just a little concerned that
makes it more of a hardship on them

490
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,440
because
>> ultimately the access on 11th Avenue is

491
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:10,160
ITD's jurisdiction, not the cities.
>> Okay. So there's nothing

492
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,000
» for us to do here.
>> There is we have no jurisdiction over

493
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:17,200
those access. So there's there would be
no reason for us to remove that

494
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:22,160
condition. You wouldn't recommend?
>> I would not recommend removing that

495
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:26,400
condition regardless. ITD has control of
that road and the change of use will

496
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:29,440
provide them the opportunity to require
things to be meaningless if I remove

497
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,280
that condition.
>> Yes,

498
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:35,160
» pretty much. Thank you.
>> That's what I needed to hear.

499
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:43,520
» Okay. Any other questions?
>> I I need to be done. So

500
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:48,480
» I'm not following that up. Okay.
Um, okay. So, we'll go ahead and open

501
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:51,760
this up to the public testimony portion.
Madame clerk, anybody signed up?

502
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,280
» There are no signups.
>> Okay. Anybody in the audience that would

503
00:38:53,599 --> 00:39:00,160
like to speak for, against, or undecided
on this proposal, please

504
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:02,640
clarify some things for us. Address for
the record.

505
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:06,240
» Uh, my name is Christy Butler. When you
said the cremation thing, that made me

506
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:11,119
think. Um, we're actually working with a
historical society and one of the

507
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:15,280
methods of getting rid of that horrible
paint job is like a chemical burn. So, I

508
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,560
kind of thought that's like a cremation
to the building.

509
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:22,640
» Well, that's so
you don't know that was beautiful. But

510
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:26,640
what how long ago was that proposed?
>> LA last year somebody came in suggesting

511
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,960
this building be turned into a pet
crematorium.

512
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,960
» Oh, no.
>> I wasn't suggesting that's what you were

513
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,000
doing.
>> Oh, no.

514
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:38,480
» Burning your tires to cremate. No, no,
but it'll be like a chemical burn to get

515
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:42,960
rid of that nasty paint or whatever. And
I wanted to mention on the traffic

516
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:46,880
thing, the location that he's at right
now has the same issue. There's medians

517
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:50,320
in that road and they have to go all the
way around the block, but it'll be good.

518
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,280
» Okay. I've never tried to go into that
business. I guess I just

519
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,640
» Oh, well, once we get it established,
come on in, Drew. That's all I wanted to

520
00:39:55,119 --> 00:40:01,160
say. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Anybody else?

521
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:04,599
Okay.

522
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,040
Motion to close public hearing.
>> Moved.

523
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,400
Second.
>> Been moved by Kho, second by Daffer to

524
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,599
close a public hearing. All those in
favor?

525
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,839
» I.
>> Any opposed?

526
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,640
» Okay.
>> They grow their business. I'd love to

527
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,880
see that building say it's cool
building. I'd love to get rid of the red

528
00:40:23,839 --> 00:40:29,760
paint job on it, but
>> Well, apparently they're going to. So,

529
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:34,160
» not what is the building. I like
building and to see to to see a business

530
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:37,839
in Nampa that's that's willing to grow
themselves is is exciting.

531
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:41,520
» Move to a bigger better location that
they can

532
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:46,040
» do more business and that's that's cool.
I like to see that.

533
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,040
» We're all for that.

534
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:53,760
» Well, I've given him a hard enough time
hold up.

535
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:58,160
» I move to approve the project as stated
on the screen with the recommended

536
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:03,359
conditions and proposed findings.
Second.

537
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:05,680
» It's been moved by Morgan, second by Kho
to approve this item. All those in

538
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:08,400
favor?
>> I.

539
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:12,119
» Any opposed?
>> Okay. Motion carries.

540
00:41:13,359 --> 00:41:18,560
» This cup will become effective 15
calendar days from the date the written

541
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,839
decision and reason statement is
provided to the applicant. Unless an

542
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,359
appeal has been filed with the planning
and zoning department with the

543
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:29,839
appropriate fee. No action should be
taken on the cup until the appeal period

544
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:34,160
has concluded. The applicant must
confirm with the planning and zoning

545
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:37,280
staff that there have been no appeals.
Thank you.

546
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:41,400
» Thank you and good luck.
>> Thanks.

547
00:41:37,839 --> 00:41:41,400
» Look forward to it.

548
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:49,839
Okay. Item 3-3, annexation and zoning to
RS7, potential development agreement and

549
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:54,640
subdivision preliminary plat for Hudson
Yards

550
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:58,960
at 03319
East Sheet Mountain Lane. Bonnie

551
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:04,119
Leighton representing Endur's Holdings
and Thomas Murray

552
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:04,119
Leighton.

553
00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:14,000
» Good evening, chairman and members of
the commission. My name is Bonnie

554
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:20,880
Leightton. I'm at 5561 East Hoot Lowl
Drive in Boisee, Idaho, 83716.

555
00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:25,200
And I'm here tonight on behalf of uh the
development team to represent Hudson

556
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:30,960
Yards uh subdivision. This is our
request for annexation, zoning, and

557
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:37,520
preliminary plat of 21.51
acres to RS7

558
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:42,800
uh including 59 residential lots. Um,
quickly, uh, the NPA future land use

559
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:49,920
map, you can see in the red outline with
the star, that is the location of our

560
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:56,240
property. Um, it butts up to, um, an
existing um, development. And so, we're

561
00:42:53,200 --> 00:43:02,720
just tying into um, what we're currently
uh, developing. So, um, as I mentioned,

562
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:06,720
um, the future land use map uh,
designation for this area is medium

563
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:13,280
density residential.
uh and RS7 is part of that uh one of the

564
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:17,839
zones that is allowed in that uh future
land use map designation. The

565
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:24,280
description requires a gross density of
um 2.51 to 8 dwelling units per acre.

566
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:34,400
Uh on the zoning map, you can see that
we have RS 8.5 next to us. Um there's

567
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:41,480
some BC uh to the northwest
and um kind of surrounded by development

568
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,480
uh in this location.

569
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:49,359
Um again our vicinity map. So you can
see we've got Locust Lane to the north,

570
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:55,720
Southside Boulevard um on our kind of to
our west and Alma Lane uh to the south.

571
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:06,640
Um, so our site plan, um, so I've
rotated it. Uh, north is to the left.

572
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:12,800
Uh, basically we're developing 59, uh,
lots in this with, um, some pretty

573
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:19,040
significant open spaces, uh, basketball
court, uh, shade structure. Um, you can

574
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:24,480
kind of see in the center park area. Um,
there's also an existing house on the

575
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:31,200
site which will remain. Um so and then
there's um also the canal along along

576
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:35,599
the boundary that will uh fence off. Uh
there's walking trails throughout as

577
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:41,040
along with sidewalks to provide
connectivity um and recreation for our

578
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:48,560
residents. Stub streets that you can see
at the top of uh this plan as I

579
00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:54,240
mentioned stub into um existing plats uh
in the area.

580
00:44:50,560 --> 00:45:00,960
And then uh to look a little bit more
detail of of this plaid, as I mentioned,

581
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:08,480
it's 21.51 acres. We've got 59
residential lots that we are proposing

582
00:45:03,839 --> 00:45:14,720
with a overall density of 2.74
dwelling units per acre. So, we're

583
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:23,440
really on the low end of um density for
this project. Um we have an overall open

584
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:33,280
space of 34.22% 22% and or common area
and um actual uh open space of 18.18%.

585
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:38,079
So that's usable uh open space.
Let's see

586
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:44,480
next slide. We will be developing this
project into two phase in two phases. Uh

587
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:49,599
phase one is in green and then phase two
is uh the remaining lots um there

588
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:54,880
that'll be on the north end of our site.
As I mentioned, you can see um in the

589
00:45:52,480 --> 00:46:00,160
phase 2 area there's a already an
outline of a building. That's the home

590
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:04,960
that will remain.
And

591
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:11,440
um we will just continue to build uh
single family detached homes uh

592
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:16,880
just like the ones in the um subdivision
to our east. Uh these are uh character

593
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:25,280
photos of what we build and what we
intend to build in this project. Um,

594
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:31,960
here are some more images.
And with that, I will stand for any

595
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,960
questions.

596
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,920
» Questions?
>> No.

597
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,560
» Okay, we'll call you back up.
>> Thank you very much,

598
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:52,319
» Christie.
Right.

599
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:56,079
Thank you, Mr. Chairman and
commissioners. Christy Watkins,

600
00:46:53,839 --> 00:46:59,520
principal planner for the city of Nampa.
As stated, the action before you this

601
00:46:57,839 --> 00:47:04,640
evening is for annexation and zoning to
RS7 with a preliminary plat for the

602
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:09,599
Hudson Yard subdivision at 3319 East
Sheep Mountain Lane for the development

603
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:13,520
of the Hudson Yard subdivision.
This property is located in the medium

604
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:19,440
density residential designation on the
comp plan and it is currently enclaved

605
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:23,119
and under Canyon County jurisdiction.
Adjacent parcels contain single family

606
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:27,119
residential homes that are in the city
limits and some commercially zoned

607
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:30,599
property to the north that is not
developed yet.

608
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:37,920
So there is no traffic study required
because there's only 59 lots in this

609
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,440
particular subdivision. The proposed
access points meet the spacing

610
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:45,520
requirements for the city's access
management policy. Water, sewer, and

611
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,800
pressurized irrigation shall be supplied
to the site through the existing and

612
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:52,640
proposed lines installed or being
installed in the New York Landing

613
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:56,400
subdivision to the east. These lines
have adequate capacity to serve this

614
00:47:54,240 --> 00:48:00,160
project. Sewer will be provided through
the New York Landing subdivision and be

615
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:04,240
serviced by the New York Landing lift
station. The city is in negotiations to

616
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:08,480
take over the New York landing lift
station with a latecomers agreement to

617
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:12,480
reimburse the development that installed
that station. The developer shall

618
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,680
provide documentation that the existing
pumps in the New York landing lift

619
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,480
station are adequate to serve the
property without upgrade.

620
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:28,880
So as far as the analysis of the plat,
she covered it pretty well. Um the

621
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:33,599
density is 2.74 which fits within the
range for the medium density

622
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:39,440
residential. The lot sizes in the RS7
zone can range from 7,000 ft to 14,000

623
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:46,640
square ft. The plat shows a range of
7,04 square ft to 11,395

624
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:52,319
ft. All of the lots meet the lot width
and depth required by city code.

625
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:56,800
um they have the appropriate amount of
open space on 3.91 acres which is

626
00:48:55,040 --> 00:49:01,680
18.18%.
A sports court and walking paths are

627
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:06,160
shown on the landscape rendering.
Um the landscape plan was reviewed by

628
00:49:03,359 --> 00:49:11,359
the city forester and some requests were
made seeking alternative species of some

629
00:49:08,319 --> 00:49:15,280
of the trees that were listed um due to
some diseases that have been rampant

630
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:21,680
lately.
Um as far as correspondence is concerned

631
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:25,440
um the engineering division had their
comments regarding traffic access,

632
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:31,680
utilities, drainage and irrigation. The
NA building department had their typical

633
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:39,119
um comments about um adhering to
building code. The forester talked about

634
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:43,359
the trees um that had some disease u
that need to be replaced on the

635
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:48,000
landscape plan. The police department um
is recommending a commitment to fund

636
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:54,160
0.02 additional officers and 0.1
additional support staff. The closest

637
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:58,960
police department is 4.8 miles away. The
call volume in this area is 103 service

638
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:03,280
calls annually.
The fire department does not oppose this

639
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:07,599
application. This development is located
approximately 3.3 miles away from fire

640
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:14,640
station 2 with an approximate response
time of 8 minutes.

641
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:20,000
Um, the impact fees from this will be
$1,267

642
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:23,839
per unit for an approximate total of 7
74,753

643
00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:29,359
for the development for the fire
department. This subdivision will add

644
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:36,319
approximately 167 residents to that 59
lots and will increase a personnel

645
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:40,559
demand of.17 firefighter positions.
So as far as annexation is concerned,

646
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:44,640
there are four criteria to be used in
determining the appropriateness of

647
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:48,880
annexation. All land owners have
consented to this annexation. The

648
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:53,760
property is contiguous to the city
limits. The comprehensive plan includes

649
00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:56,640
this area within its area of annexation
and the property is subject to the

650
00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:02,240
city's agreement with the current
highway district.

651
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:07,599
And as for um the zoning,
the RS4 zone is an allowed zone within

652
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:12,480
the medium or sorry RS7 that's
incorrect. RS7 is an allowed zone within

653
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,760
the medium density residential
designation. There are three criteria

654
00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:19,520
for determining the appropriateness of
the zoning.

655
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:23,760
Staff has found that the request is in
harmony with the comprehensive plan. The

656
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:26,559
proposal would provide for uses that are
deemed to be compatible with the

657
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,400
adjoining properties that are also
residential. The proposed zoning is in

658
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:35,760
the interest of the public and
reasonably necessary. Um it as it

659
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:41,040
matches the comp plan to define
compatibility

660
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:45,040
um and it will bring um improvements to
the property.

661
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,720
These are the recommended conditions of
approval based on the engineering

662
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:54,040
comments
and these are your potential motions.

663
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,040
So, I'll stand for any questions.

664
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,599
» Questions? Anyone?

665
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:07,280
» Okay, we'll open it up for public
testimony. Madam Clerk, is there anybody

666
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:11,839
signed up?
>> Is there anyone here that would like to

667
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:16,240
speak for, against, or undecided on this
item? Anyone online?

668
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:21,119
» These guys don't care. They're like,
"No."

669
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:24,480
Okay, seeing none, I would take a
minute. Bonnie,

670
00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:27,839
» well, yeah. Leon, do you have anything
you'd like to add? Do we have any

671
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:32,960
questions for Miss Leon?
>> No, I don't.

672
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:37,760
» Um, I'll just say quickly again, Bonnie
Leon, for the record. Um, we reviewed

673
00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:42,319
the staff report. We're in agreement
with the conditions of approval that

674
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:47,599
staff have recommended for um this
project should you uh choose to approve

675
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:54,760
us this evening. So, thank you very much
for your time and if you have any

676
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:54,760
questions, I'm happy to answer them.

677
00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:58,079
» Nobody.
>> I think so.

678
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,040
» Okay. Thanks.
>> Thank you.

679
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:05,280
» Thank you.
>> Motion to close the public hearing.

680
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:08,480
» Second.
>> It's been moved by Kho, second by Garner

681
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:12,880
to close the public hearing. All those
in favor? I.

682
00:53:09,839 --> 00:53:15,880
» Any opposed? Okay. Public hearing is
closed.

683
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,040
What are we thinking?
>> Seems like a no-brainer. It's just

684
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:25,839
filling in more of what's already there.
So, I don't

685
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:32,680
» Yeah. And I like all the exter
filling into the canal. So,

686
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,680
» looks good to me.

687
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:37,640
I
>> meant to ask this question.

688
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,319
» Nope.
>> I guess I'm not.

689
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,640
» Maybe not.
>> Question.

690
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:46,079
» So, this is Hudson Yards. The other
one's New York Landing.

691
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:48,400
There's stuff.
>> What's going on over here?

692
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:52,240
» Use Steves.
>> He likes to talk away from his mic, so

693
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,559
when he leans forward, it gets real
loud.

694
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:59,599
» I'll stay back here.
>> So there's there's all these New York

695
00:53:56,559 --> 00:54:03,599
names and then you got Red Sox way
right in the middle of this subdivision.

696
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:07,520
» Somebody's a prankster.
>> You're not an

697
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,599
» There's not a Yankees in here. There's a
Mets.

698
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:13,359
» Maybe Cory was a Yankee. Who knows?
Maybe it's an anti Yankees thing cuz

699
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:20,319
there's a Mets in here. Anyway, I agree.
I think it's a perfect infill project.

700
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:24,400
Um, it doesn't it doesn't add any new
connections to the streets. It's got

701
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:27,640
green space. It's compatible. So, I'd
support it.

702
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:33,760
» We put a condition in that they need to
rename one of them.

703
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:37,119
» Fenway Road.
>> There there's already a Fenway

704
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,880
subdivision coming to the south of that.
So,

705
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,079
» no.
>> Nope.

706
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,359
» No. Okay.
>> There's a there's a theme in this area

707
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:47,599
that is not compatible. And I don't know
if that's is that compatibility that we

708
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:52,000
can consider or
>> street naming is all under GIS and

709
00:54:50,319 --> 00:54:56,000
there's a giant list they have to be
unique on. So street naming gets

710
00:54:54,480 --> 00:55:01,720
challenging anymore.
>> Bonnie, can we get rid of the basketball

711
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:01,720
court and put in a baseball field?

712
00:55:03,359 --> 00:55:07,200
» Sorry.
>> Okay.

713
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:12,640
Daff.
>> Uh I move to recommend approval of the

714
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:16,960
project as stated on the screen.
Second. It's been moved by Daffer,

715
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:19,680
second by Kho to recommend approval for
this item. All those in favor? I

716
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:24,240
» I.
>> Any opposed?

717
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:26,240
» Okay. Motion carries.
>> You're welcome.

718
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,680
» Take back what I said. There is a
Yankees way.

719
00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:38,160
» Yankees way.
>> Okay. Item 3-4, zoning map amendment for

720
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:43,920
RS6 toBC zoning district at 1111 11th
Avenue North

721
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:47,839
for Raquel Padrazza.
>> Good evening everyone. Thanks for

722
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:53,599
letting me speak. Um, my name is Lennin
and I'm here to represent Noah Leuga and

723
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:57,200
Raquel Pedraza because they say that my
English is better than theirs. That's a

724
00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:01,440
lie. Okay, they speak really good
English. Mine is not that good. Uh if

725
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:05,760
you have if you guys have any question
just get back to me. Um I am requesting

726
00:56:04,319 --> 00:56:08,799
a resoning of my property
>> point of order. Can we please get first

727
00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:16,079
last and
>> Lenny Cavalero

728
00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:19,200
L E N I N Cavalero. C A B as boy. L E R
O.

729
00:56:17,359 --> 00:56:20,799
» Your address.
>> What was that? Sorry.

730
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:23,119
» Address. Address.
>> My address or the address on the

731
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:29,200
property?
>> Yours? Uh it is 11:25

732
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:33,240
Powell Avenue.
Nampa, Idaho 83687.

733
00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:38,960
» Perfect.
>> All right. Thank you.

734
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:42,960
» I am requesting a resoning on my
property in order to operate a mobile

735
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:49,280
auto repair business with limited low
impact use on the site. The proposed use

736
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:55,119
is specifically for storage of tools,
equipment, and automotive automotive

737
00:56:52,000 --> 00:57:00,079
parts as well as preparation and
dispatch to offsite service locations.

738
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:04,000
The business will operate strictly as a
mobile service. No customers will visit

739
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:09,200
the property and no on-site customer
services will be provided.

740
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:13,440
All vehicle repairs and customer
interactions will take place at the

741
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:18,799
customer's locations wherever their
vehicle is situated. Uh the property

742
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:23,520
will not function as a traditional auto
repair shop open to the public. The only

743
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:29,920
individuals involved in the business
operations will be Raquel Pedrasa and

744
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:34,480
Noel Chuga. There will be no additional
employees, no ship changes and no

745
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:41,359
increase in traffic beyond normal
residential use. Business related travel

746
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:46,240
will consist so subtly of deporting the
property to service to service customers

747
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:51,760
and returning upon completation of
service calls. A shop located on the

748
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:56,240
property will be used only for storage
of tools, equipment and parts as well as

749
00:57:54,319 --> 00:58:01,440
of maintenance and preparation related
to the mobile repair services. Uh the

750
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:07,119
existing residents on the property will
not be used for customer activity or

751
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:13,119
retail purposes and will be util utiliz
utilized solely for a storage of office

752
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:18,160
files, records and administrative
materials related to the business. This

753
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:22,880
proposed use is attendant to be quiet,
low impact and compatible with the

754
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:28,319
surround surrounding properties
um with no anticipated noise, parking or

755
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:32,400
traffic issues beyond what is typical
for a residential property. Uh the

756
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:36,960
reszoning request would allow the
business to operate in comp in

757
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:42,160
compliance with local regulations while
maintaining the the character and

758
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:45,839
integrity to the area. Sorry, I'm I get
really nervous about talking in person.

759
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,920
That's what I'm kind of like.
>> You're doing good. You're doing really

760
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,920
good. You're doing good. You're doing
really good.

761
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:53,040
» And that's it.
>> Okay.

762
00:58:50,400 --> 00:59:00,400
» So, we have the address of the property.
It's 1111 11th Avenue North there in AA

763
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:03,440
83687.
>> We have questions

764
00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:06,839
» yet? Nope. No. No.
>> Okay.

765
00:59:03,839 --> 00:59:06,839
» Good.

766
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:14,000
» Okay.
>> I I want to I want to call Rodney cuz

767
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:18,000
he's not ready. Call him. He can do it.
>> But I'll let you do it, Christie.

768
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:21,599
» Thanks. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and
Commissioners. Christy Watkins,

769
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:26,720
principal planner for the city of Nampa.
As stated, the request before you this

770
00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:31,599
evening is to reszone from RS6 to BC at
1111 111th Avenue North to allow for the

771
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:35,599
operation of a mobile auto mechanic
business.

772
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:39,680
The property is currently located in a
medium density residential designation

773
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:44,240
on the comprehensive plan, but it is
adjacent to a commercial designation

774
00:59:42,319 --> 00:59:49,760
which can be stretched onto this
property.

775
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:55,760
To the north of this property is a um
Iel zoned property and

776
00:59:52,720 --> 01:00:04,559
um the Mason Creek
um industrial park there as well as the

777
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:12,640
um the Shortline Railroad. To the east
is an RS6 property. Um that is actually

778
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:17,280
a uh storage yard as far as we can tell.
Um we don't have any permits for that

779
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:26,480
loca for that property to be used in
that way at this point. Um and to the

780
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:31,160
south west is a residence and to the
souththeast is also residential.

781
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:39,040
So these are the uses that are allowed
in 1032. So a dwelling combined with a

782
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:42,720
business is a permitted use in the BC
zone.

783
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:47,520
Um, automobile parts and accessories
that will be stored in the the out

784
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:53,200
building is a permitted use in the BC
zone. Automobile and truck repair, if

785
01:00:50,799 --> 01:00:56,880
it's on site, requires a conditional use
permit. Um, as stated, they're not

786
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:01,280
requesting a conditional use permit
tonight because that service will not

787
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:04,799
happen there. Um, I just wanted to bring
that to your attention that they would

788
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:08,680
need an extra application if they were
to do that at that location.

789
01:01:10,319 --> 01:01:17,440
So, should they choose to turn this into
a full-fledged business and be approved

790
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:22,160
to do auto repair, they would be
required to bring the property up to

791
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:26,799
code, which would require a 20ft
landscape buffer in the front and a

792
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:32,559
number of parking spaces that would be
required based on the usable area of the

793
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:37,680
buildings once they choose to convert
it. Again, just for your information,

794
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:42,400
they're not required to do that at this
time because they're not converting it.

795
01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:48,079
But if they do convert it to a full-on
auto repair business, these are the

796
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:53,040
requirements that they will be held to.
So, the correspondence that we received

797
01:01:50,319 --> 01:01:57,359
um the building department says that
this will require the property to be

798
01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:01,359
utilized solely for the storage of tools
and equipment as well as for business

799
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:04,960
filing purposes with the exception of
vehicles owned by the property owner. No

800
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:09,280
automotive repair work shall take place
on the premises. Should automotive

801
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:13,280
repair services be desired on site,
among other requirements, an occupancy

802
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:17,599
change will be necessary and shall
comply with the relevant commercial

803
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:22,960
building codes outlined in all of the
code books that we refer to. Um, code

804
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:28,960
compliance has noted that there are some
code violations on this property. Um,

805
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:33,040
they are maintaining they need to
maintain whatever nuisance was outlined

806
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:37,920
by code compliance. They didn't outline
it in their memo. They just noticed

807
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:43,440
nuisance. Um, prevention of vehicular
nuisances. So, I'm thinking they want to

808
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:46,720
get ahead of any kind of storage of
vehicles.

809
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:50,480
Um, and then it's unlawful to leave
inoperative vehicles on private

810
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:55,200
property. So, again, I feel like this is
kind of an an effort to get ahead of

811
01:02:53,119 --> 01:02:59,200
some things that might take place on the
property.

812
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:03,280
The Nampa Fire District does not oppose
this application subject to compliance

813
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:07,599
with all of the code requirements listed
by the building department. The

814
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:12,559
engineering department does not oppose
this application with the following

815
01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:17,839
conditions. Um the roads adjacent to the
site are managed by the city of Nampa

816
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:22,799
and um the public roadway that provides
access to the site is 11th Avenue which

817
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:26,319
is a collector public rideway along 11th
Avenue at the required width has already

818
01:03:24,799 --> 01:03:30,160
been dedicated. So, no further
dedication is required at this time.

819
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:33,760
Frontage improvements, including
sidewalk, curb, and gutter are already

820
01:03:32,079 --> 01:03:38,880
there, so they don't have to install
that. And the city maintains all of the

821
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:43,760
utilities um in 11th Avenue. They're
available to the site.

822
01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:49,280
So, as stated, these are the proposed
conditions um and any others that you

823
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:54,880
may choose to recommend at this time.
So, the facts for resoning

824
01:03:51,839 --> 01:03:59,440
there again are the three criteria. It
is in harmony with the comprehensive

825
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:03,119
plan. It does propose a use that is
compatible with is in the interest of

826
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:07,359
the public because um it will be
providing a service to our community

827
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:10,640
that is much needed.
These are your potential motions and

828
01:04:08,799 --> 01:04:15,039
I'll stand for any questions.
>> Christie,

829
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:18,799
um
it's a big piece of property and they're

830
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,839
going to be in the auto repair business
and I'm concerned about the buildings

831
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:25,920
that they're going to put their spare
parts in. What happens if those

832
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:30,240
buildings get to be too small and they
got more parts that will fit in there or

833
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:34,880
like an engine block is not something
that you can just stick in a building

834
01:04:32,799 --> 01:04:38,240
and
uh put on your back and then haul it

835
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:42,000
back out again. So, it takes a lot of
mechanical stuff to lift the heavy

836
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:46,640
equipment. Is anything prevent them from
over filling the lot with parts, car

837
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:53,440
parts?
>> Um, Mr. Chairman and Commissioner Kho,

838
01:04:50,799 --> 01:04:57,920
at this point, if you were to stand
directly in front of the property and

839
01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:03,680
look at it head-on, there's a house
there and there's a and there's a fence

840
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:08,799
that almost completely screens the whole
backside of this property from the right

841
01:05:05,839 --> 01:05:13,920
of way. Um, so any storage that they
might have on site around their

842
01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:19,920
building, um, you're not likely going to
see it. Um, if they did outgrow this

843
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:24,880
location, then I would assume that they
would either build another out building

844
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:29,280
to store some of their stuff or find a
better location and grow their business.

845
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:33,039
» Hey,
me.

846
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:33,760
» Hey,
here.

847
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,079
» Yep.
>> You let me ask more questions,

848
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:41,520
» please.
>> Had a rough night. Um,

849
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:46,480
I know we can't change this stuff on the
fly. Is this the best way to get this

850
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:50,960
compliant? Like there's no path through
conditional use

851
01:05:49,039 --> 01:06:00,079
for
it seems weird to have this chunk of BC

852
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:04,160
this residential zone like I assume a
home occupation wouldn't work for this

853
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:09,039
use. Yeah.
>> Um thank you Mr. Chairman and um

854
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:17,440
Commissioner Morgan.
Our home occupation is an interesting

855
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:25,359
um device. Um we used to allow
automotive repair, quote unquote. Um

856
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:29,520
in a home occupation situation,
um we had a lot of problems with that.

857
01:06:27,839 --> 01:06:36,000
We've had a lot of complaints about that
and that was removed from code.

858
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:40,720
Um, as far as storing automotive parts
and operating technically in business

859
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:46,000
out of the location,
um, we don't have anything in our home

860
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:50,720
occupation code that would address that
particular use. So, by reszoning it

861
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:54,799
then, um, like I showed you on the
chart, those are the things that would

862
01:06:52,319 --> 01:06:59,280
be allowed in that zone, which is what
they're asking to do.

863
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:03,680
So we we kind of went around this in our
office as well like what would be the

864
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:09,839
best way to address this problem. Um
because

865
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:14,240
um the only automotive repair situation
that we had for our home occupations was

866
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:18,240
no longer allowed.
So this is the only way we could figure

867
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:23,440
to get it compliant.
>> And I guess I'm already tipping my hand.

868
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:26,480
I'm a little concerned about like I
don't have a concern with him doing

869
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:31,599
this. I'm concerned about when they
outgrow it and move. Now we've got this

870
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:36,160
chunk of BC on this skinny lot in the
middle of a bunch of RS6.

871
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:41,839
Unless you think the that's the way the
rest of this neighborhood's going to go

872
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:47,599
as it develops. But
>> if you look down the road, I think

873
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:48,960
there's one little road of maybe
duplexes.

874
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:52,640
» Yeah.
>> And then it turns into industrial the

875
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:54,799
rest of the way. So like it's right on
the edge.

876
01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:58,160
» Yeah.
And the one and the one right next to

877
01:07:56,319 --> 01:08:00,799
it,
that's what it is now anyway. It's just

878
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,799
not zoned for it.
>> Correct.

879
01:08:01,359 --> 01:08:06,280
» That's what the future land use map
wants it to be.

880
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:12,720
» Wants it to be commercial or industrial
or

881
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:18,400
» um
I did I don't see the code or the

882
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:22,640
colors, but
>> what's the future land use map there? So

883
01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:27,040
the future land use map on the property
currently is medium density residential

884
01:08:24,799 --> 01:08:30,199
but it is touching commercial. So it can
be stretched.

885
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:37,920
» Did you say somewhere in there that it
was adjoining some county property?

886
01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:42,679
» No, it's adjoining the railroad
property.

887
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,679
» What was the

888
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,359
» Oh, yeah. I wonder if that got copy
pasted from a different

889
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:55,359
» I think it probably did.
>> Okay, cuz they have to access it off of

890
01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:57,920
Happy Valley
>> down here in the bottom right.

891
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,480
» Oh.
>> Oh my god.

892
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:04,239
» That's a That's a That's a long access.
>> Wow.

893
01:09:02,799 --> 01:09:10,600
» That's crazy.
>> Oh, it just shows that I was reading,

894
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:10,600
not listening. Okay. Um

895
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:18,159
» Okay. So, you don't think there's And I
guess we couldn't do another path today

896
01:09:15,199 --> 01:09:23,600
without readvertising and everything,
but there's no way like because it's not

897
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:27,440
automotive repair like if people aren't
bringing it to that site. I'm trying to

898
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:32,480
see what the difference between that is
and having gun parts for sale at your or

899
01:09:30,799 --> 01:09:37,759
something else, any other product for
sale that you take somewhere else. But

900
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:44,159
you you didn't feel like that would be
justified in the home occupation code.

901
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:50,199
Well, because we specifically took
that out of our home occupation

902
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:50,199
requirements for automotive

903
01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:55,280
u I don't know uses.
>> Yeah, deliberately.

904
01:09:53,600 --> 01:10:01,239
» We felt Yeah, we deliberately took that
out of our code. We kind of felt like we

905
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:01,239
needed to take this a step further

906
01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:05,719
» than just a conditional use permit.

907
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:19,320
Rodney stood up. I don't know if he may
want to say something.

908
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:19,320
» Name and address for the record, please.

909
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:28,400
» And that was a a specific direction from
our elected officials to do that. So, we

910
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:34,239
had it, we had the concerns, and then we
just we were directed to make that

911
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:38,560
change in code. And so I just don't
think that the home occupation is the

912
01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:42,880
tool that the our elected officials want
to use for

913
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:50,159
and you asked earlier about like
conditional use permits and and you know

914
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:55,840
that they are used to address impacts to
neighboring properties like noise and

915
01:10:52,640 --> 01:11:00,640
fumes and that kind of thing. But um in
this situation, they they just were not

916
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:05,520
comfortable with those land uses at all
because they were claiming at the time a

917
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:11,199
lot of people were claiming, hey, we're
not going to impact noise. We're not

918
01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:17,360
going to impact traffic. And then and
then it was happening. So they wanted to

919
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:20,719
eliminate that isn't even an option that
we would have to go back and mitigate

920
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:26,640
later.
And I I think I agree with that

921
01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:32,800
that um reasoning. I just don't know
that that's what this is. But

922
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:37,640
that's my opinion. And as stated
earlier, I'm not a planning

923
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,640
professional. So

924
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:43,120
that's all. Brett, I'll be quiet.
>> All done.

925
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:46,480
» I'm all done.
Thank you.

926
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:50,400
» Hey, any other questions for
>> I got one.

927
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:54,880
This is for my education, but what is
the difference between a reszone and a

928
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:58,560
zoning map amendment? Or are they the
same thing?

929
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:01,600
» Um, Commissioner Daffer, they are the
same thing.

930
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:05,719
» Okay, that's it.
>> Reszone's just easier to say.

931
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:14,159
» Anybody else?
>> Okay,

932
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:17,760
we will open up public testimony for
this item. Madam clerk, do we have

933
01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:21,440
signup sheet? We do not.
>> Is there anyone here that would like to

934
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:24,440
speak for, against, or undecided on this
proposal?

935
01:12:27,679 --> 01:12:33,360
» Seeing none, I would
close public hearing.

936
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:36,400
» Want to invite him back up or
>> Oh, wow.

937
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:40,640
» Would you like to come back up and tell
us anything else or no?

938
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:44,400
» Okay,
>> there we go. Okay, it's been moved by

939
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:47,280
Kho,
second by Morgan to close the public

940
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,920
hearing. All those in favor?
>> I.

941
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:53,960
» Any opposed?
Public hearing is closed.

942
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:03,040
» I'll finish my thought, then I'll be
quiet. I think I I want this to go

943
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:08,560
through. I want them to be able to do
this business here. There's no there's

944
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:15,199
no compatibility issues for me right
now. it it I don't love the idea of

945
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:19,760
having this little spot zone of a BC in
this residential area.

946
01:13:18,159 --> 01:13:25,280
I'll get your guys' thoughts on it. I
don't know if it's enough for me to

947
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:29,600
reject it, but that's my concern.
>> I do. I mean, it's it's touching the

948
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:34,480
residential on the one side. I mean,
it's close to the residential, but

949
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:39,199
again, it's like right in between pretty
heavy industrial stuff and some

950
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:43,679
residential, right? And so because of
the uses that are just, you know, a

951
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:47,840
couple hundred feet away, I it's not as
big an issue for me as it might be

952
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,960
otherwise.
And like you said, the people right next

953
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:55,040
to them,
>> they're doing the same thing.

954
01:13:52,000 --> 01:14:01,280
» That should be a BC zone as well.
>> They just haven't done it. So,

955
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:07,120
and a lot of those are pretty old houses
on some goodiz lots. So maybe as they

956
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:11,239
get redeveloped, it'll just continue to
I don't have a problem with it.

957
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:20,960
Yeah, I don't. Just like you said,
because it's so close

958
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:24,159
and if we were right smack in the middle
of residential,

959
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:27,640
I might feel a little bit different
about it. But

960
01:14:28,159 --> 01:14:31,360
» as Chris just said, you can't even see
what's going on from the outside of the

961
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:35,239
property.
>> You can't. Yeah,

962
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:41,760
» but theoretically somebody could come
down, tear down the house, put in a

963
01:14:39,679 --> 01:14:45,440
business there.
>> I don't think it would ever happen. Like

964
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:48,320
I'm not going to oppose it on those
grounds. But that's kind of what we're

965
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:52,719
letting happen though.
>> Yeah. But like I say, a lot most of

966
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:56,239
those are pretty old on on goodsiz lot.
So if it did start to get redeveloped,

967
01:14:54,719 --> 01:15:01,080
it
>> going to be a more intense use anyway.

968
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,080
» Yeah.

969
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,800
some of those other requirements.

970
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,600
» True.
>> I'll support it.

971
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:16,000
» I think it's a good idea,
>> Mr. Chair.

972
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:21,120
» Yep.
>> Um I move to recommend approval of the

973
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:26,800
reszone as stated on screen with all
recommended conditions of approval and

974
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:29,840
proposed findings.
>> Second.

975
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:33,840
It's been moved by Daffer, second by
Turner to approve this item or recommend

976
01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:35,280
approval for this item. All those in
favor?

977
01:15:34,239 --> 01:15:39,920
» I.
>> Any opposed?

978
01:15:37,679 --> 01:15:46,000
Motion carries.
Okay. U now we would like to invite

979
01:15:42,480 --> 01:15:50,239
Rodney up so he could practice his
budget presentation.

980
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:54,320
» Well, can we journ this meeting first so
the rest of us can go home?

981
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:57,360
But we don't have somebody to adjurnn
the first.

982
01:15:56,719 --> 01:15:59,600
He's not here.
>> I guess I guess we're stuck here all

983
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:03,520
night. Uh
>> oh, he's on his way. We I invited him

984
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:05,840
and now we got to listen.
>> Thank you guys.

985
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:12,120
» Thank you. Good luck.
>> We need more money.

986
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,120
» Second,

987
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,840
» Mr. Chairman.
>> Yes.

988
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:19,280
» Make a motion that we adjourn.
>> Okay.

989
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:21,920
» Who Who second it? Who wants it?
>> All right. Give it to them.

990
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,560
» Okay. Okay, it's been motioned by
Garner, second by Daffer to adjourn the

991
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:29,600
meeting. All those in favor?
>> I.

992
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:29,600
» Any opposed? Meeting is adjourned.