1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:24,720 City Clerk, are you by ready? I am ready if you are, Mayor. All right. Well, if the city clerk is ready, we are ready. So if I can ask you to find your seats, we'll get this show on the road. So welcome. Welcome to our June 24th special called meeting the Napa City Council City Clerk, can we have roll call, please. Council members, Dean Atolley here. Narvaya's here. 2 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:30,720 Are there any changes or supplemental reports to the agenda? 3 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:42,720 There aren't. Sorry, there with me, just a second. Mayor, there are no changes to the agenda. We do have supplemental reports for item 5A. We have PowerPoint presentations from city staff as well as the applicant team. 4 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:50,720 And then we'll receive from city staff with a revision to one of the attachments. I believe it was as if it, hey, I don't have it in front of me. 5 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:59,720 Exhibit K and then we also received 28 written communications via email as well, which have all been distributed to council. 6 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:07,720 Yes, we have seen them. Thank you so much. Public comment, our normal general public comment doesn't happen during special call meetings. 7 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:24,720 So any public comment tonight will be regarding our agenda item on that particular 5A. And so you will have a chance for public comment, but just note general public comment during a special meeting. 8 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:34,720 Our next item 300 agenda is our consent calendar consent calendar items are considered routine and may be approved by a simple vote of the council. 9 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:46,720 Members of the public or city council may request that a consent item be pulled for discussion. There are three consent items identified on the agenda items a 3A through 3C. 10 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:53,720 I didn't receive a request to pull in the agenda item. 11 00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:09,720 I have no comment cards for no comments on that. I will. I would like to make a comment on a consent 3C, but I don't really need to pull it just a comment. That's okay with council. 12 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,720 Well, with that, I would make a motion to approve consent calendar items 3A, B and C. 13 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,720 Okay, so I have a motion and I have a second. 14 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:37,720 All in favor, I suppose, carries unanimously. So with that said, you know, I think all of us on council, we really want the Franklin station post office to be renovated and move forward, right? 15 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:57,720 That's a goal of all of ours. And that that item tonight on consent calendar was to restate and the purchase sales agreement and a development agreement. I support those items, but you know in the past that I've always watched those as we we extend those development agreements and those entitlements. 16 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:02,720 That's okay. I understand that these projects are complex. 17 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:08,720 But council, we should expect developers to follow through with their promises. 18 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,720 And so I wish the developer on this particular project all the best. 19 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:21,720 We have throughout town and I won't waste your time identifying all of those parcels and projects that are entitled and not being developed. 20 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:40,720 But I think our council's goal should be to try to move those along for the benefit of our entire community. So those are my comments on that item 3C. So we're moving to we have a consent hearing consent hearings. 21 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:51,720 Our items are considered routine and maybe approved by a single vote of the council, however, members of the public or council may request that consent hearing item be pulled towards the session. 22 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,720 There's one item on the consent hearing calendar for the meeting this afternoon. 23 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:05,720 First reading of an un codified ordinance, there is a request, is there any request for the council to pull any of the items on the consent hearing. 24 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:16,720 So what this item is about is just because of our general plan update, we are now updating all our ordinances and things. So we need to do that by action. 25 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:22,720 So if I have no council member to entertain a motion to approve the consent hearing. 26 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:29,720 The motion by vice mayor Lerals second second by council member Dina Talley all in favor. 27 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,720 Any opposed carries unanimously. 28 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:45,720 I imagine this is why you're all here item 5A our first street nap of phase 2. So we have a few actions tonight. 29 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:53,720 I won't go through all of them but what will happen is first we'll hear a report from staff. 30 00:04:53,720 --> 00:05:01,720 Then the project applicant will will disclose council member disclose any information they've learned outside of this hearing. 31 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,720 We'll give an opportunity for the project applicant to present. 32 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:14,720 Then we'll have question and answers. We'll give an opportunity for public comment and we'll close the public comment. 33 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:21,720 So we're going to start with our team that's done an outstanding job all along. Always. Thank you. 34 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:28,720 Thank you. Mayor sidely members of the city council. Molly Radigan wearing my interim community development director hat here this evening. 35 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:37,720 Here we are. Like you said we've been talking about this for quite some time and as you can see by the public and attendance there's quite interest and amount of interest in this project. 36 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:47,720 I just wanted to kick this off by acknowledging that with your 23 attachments and hundreds of pages of staff reports and reports that go with this. 37 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,720 The tremendous amount of work that staff has put into bringing this item to you here today. 38 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:59,720 I especially want to acknowledge Ricky Caperton our planning manager who was the one who pulled this all together and unfortunately couldn't be here with us this evening. 39 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:12,720 No, no need to worry he's doing fine, but just couldn't be here today. And also thank Mike Walker and writer dilly who are here. I'm sorry Mike Allen and writer dilly who are here tonight who have stepped in to lead us through this presentation. So I'll kick it over to Mike Walker Mike. 40 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,720 I keep doing that. Sorry. I respond anything you call me. 41 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:23,720 I don't know what mayor members of the city council the project before you tonight is the first street napa phase two project. 42 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:34,720 The application is that is requesting a development agreement specific plan and the zoning amendment applying development overlay and a tentative parcel map to facilitate the development of the former coal site. 43 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:50,720 And then the whiteberry plaza into a up to 161 room hotel with answering a retail amendment and other amenities up to 78 residential condominiums and approximately 30,000 square feet of non residential uses on the ground for primarily. 44 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:57,720 The project location as you can see is is the sandwich between first street, Pearl Street and first street, fronting on Main Street. 45 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:12,720 The red dotted line indicates the building form the yellow dotted lines indicate the proposed open space that would be a long ground street and then done the center of the project. 46 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:27,720 This is a representation of the the policies and documents that led us to this point first we have the general plan which oversees the entire city with the general statements as how we wish to see the city developing. 47 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:37,720 In our downtown we the city adopted a downtown specific plan back in 2012 which focuses on our downtown in that downtown specifically on there were three focus areas. 48 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:49,720 The project is located in the really central focus area the town center focus area face to and so that leads us to the actual application project which is proposing the development application within that area that. 49 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:55,720 As we go through this we'll see is consistent with the goals and policies of the jump downtown specific plan. 50 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:03,720 This is again just shows you the location it gives you identification of the downtown core commercial district which is identified by the. 51 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:11,720 The salmon color the focus area is the red dots and you can see there's three focus areas there's the downtown. 52 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:17,720 The downtown center there's the synodometopia this one's located in downtown. 53 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:29,720 Just to briefly go through these specific plan policies and goals that this project appears to be applicable to these are all directly out of the downtown specific plan where they seek to. 54 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:41,720 The historic buildings and new buildings that embody the best of sustainable design and architecture they seek to have a wide range of high quality housing choices in the downtown to make it a livable space. 55 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:51,720 The downtown is a plan looks to provide interconnected network of trails and pathways areas that use a pedestrians and bicyclists of all ages. 56 00:08:51,720 --> 00:09:07,720 The downtown be a prosperous hope for hotels restaurants and shopping and other services that draw people to the downtown and including luxury hotels and B and B's and wine train world class entertainment venues and other outdoor amenities that would draw people to the downtown. 57 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:22,720 They also look for the development of this area specifically that through a through a refined design and review process which is what this development agreement is proposing to implement for the project. 58 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:31,720 It's also considered the commercial heart of the city and is intended to promote the mixed use development which this project is intending to be a mixed use development. 59 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:48,720 The other designations of the downtown occur to gather in place of the downtown redesign of that of a reactivate the Dwightberry Plaza with an open inviting town square style which is project is proposing to do in a new configuration. 60 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:58,720 The key project components are up to a 78 residential market rate kind of any project which would include 110 parking spaces up to a 161 room hotel. 61 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:15,720 It would be a total of 200,000 square feet including 10,000 square feet event space, 1900 square feet of outdoor terrace would serve the event space, 2000 square feet for a fitness studio and other amenities would be for restaurants and other outdoor amenities and retail. 62 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:25,720 It would be a 129 parking space as we produce a project that would be subject to a future agreement when the project should the project go forward and move on that would be handled under the development agreement. 63 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:33,720 More than likely with using the Pearl Street garage is entering the agreement similar to what we have done with the other downtown hotels. 64 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:47,720 It also includes 30,000 square feet of non-residential so it could be food beverage and other commercial amenities on the ground floor that would be bordered by all of the new public open space areas sort of intended to create. 65 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:54,720 Recreate similar similar to what the former downtown look like with the streets or funnages they're found along commercial uses. 66 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:03,720 A lot of the public benefits are redesigned in constructive brown street corridor a new pedestrian per se of between the buildings to drop off area behind a leg area. 67 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:18,720 Next to the and also improvements of the 911 more the more you'll guard which would also include some enhanced public art amenities that would be providing with the project and be to find the area making it more of a park like setting. 68 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:35,720 See here requested entitlements again are the development agreement that would regulate the project give assurances to the both the applicant team and the city that would help the timeline performance measures milestones public benefits. 69 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:49,720 The plan development overlay is essentially a zoning overlay that allows for a little bit of variation in the downtown specific plan downtown form to development standards which primarily it is consistent with but there's a couple minor variations that would be. 70 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:59,720 A lot in the overlay and then a specific plan in the zoning amendment to amend the downtown entertainment district to encompass this area so that it would it would. 71 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:09,720 Further enhance the potential for nightlife and other other downtown amenities that we want to see in our downtown for entertainment for visitors as well as residents. 72 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:20,720 And then it's also attended a parcel map to reconfigure the existing seven parcels creating three three parcels with one company of space and a space parcel for the condos. 73 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:40,720 The condominiums going back with the development agreement has key components of is the the affordable housing alternative equivalent they're requesting is they would be proposing to allocate two million three the thirty seven thousand dollars to the previously approved affordable housing project over the church. 74 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,720 In addition they also have a one time payment two dollars per square foot for each condo unit. 75 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:57,720 They also it would also include a city to reimburse up to 33 million over 10 years for the construction of the new public spaces that the development would provide that would be available to the public. 76 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:07,720 They also include a $500,000 public art contribution that would be used that the app the intent is the applicant team would come in with a public art proposal. 77 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:19,720 They've hired local artists that we all know that would be the curator of that and and work on that public art which would be probably over a broad range of the area in the public realm. 78 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,720 They're also a new pedestrian drop-off near the allegorya. 79 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:33,720 They would also relocate revitalize well the whiteberry plaza would go away and there would be the new pedestrian walkway between the building and a long ground street. 80 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:39,720 I think the city's been aware that the whiteberry plaza for years, there's been always a desire to modify that and update it. 81 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:51,720 It is a relic of the 70s and has been very underutilized over the years, but for a lot of reasons probably a lot of is the configuration of it now. 82 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:59,720 So the intent of this project is to create a new or vibrant exciting pathway that actually creates linkages that are reminiscent of the original street configuration. 83 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:06,720 I'll be giving another outdoor area in the community that could be used for public gathering. 84 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:19,720 There's also going to be parking under the under the building and also the the future utilization of the Pearl Street garage and it also allows the city manager to make a decision making for the actual final design review of the projects. 85 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,720 Design. 86 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,720 This is just a prepared amount of go passes. 87 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,720 This is also just showing the plan development overlay modifications. 88 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,720 The far right is what the proposal is. 89 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:36,720 It's pretty consistent with both downtown one and two, so it was very little that's actually being modified by the plan development overlay. 90 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:45,720 But basically essentially the PD allows for the development to occur in the form that is proposed and also it would allow for uses that might normally require. 91 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:56,720 Conditial use permits become just permitted so therefore it would help facilitate getting a lot of the the proposed commercial uses and other type of activities within the center much easier. 92 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,720 And paste them in the normal way through their path. 93 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:07,120 Public hearing process. Key components, our plan uses modified over the PDE district. I've already covered 94 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:12,800 that. Let's skip that. This is just showing you the modification of the plan to 95 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:18,960 tell me the zoning amendment. The to the left is where the current downtown entertainment district 96 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,920 is. Project site is over here in the yellow. They're proposing to include it in the downtown 97 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,000 entertainment district, which is something that I think will probably see in the future. They might 98 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,000 need to see further expansion. That's something that's going to be talked about. In this case, 99 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,360 this applicant team is looking to get it done with this project, which would help 100 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,720 again, like I mentioned earlier, facilitate a lot of the uses in the down in the project, 101 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:43,040 minute gets built. The 10 of the map is showing that, as you can see here, there are seven 102 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:48,400 parcels that exist. They're looking to reconfigure it into three parcels. There's also 103 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:54,560 an air space parcel and a condominium parcel. The findings are located in all the attachments 104 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,840 that the council has before you. Staff leaves the findings to be made and they're in there for 105 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:06,400 the council's purview. This project would implement many of the general plan in downtown 106 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:13,360 specific goals and policies in a way that we probably haven't seen in a recent project, so it's definitely 107 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:18,880 a good thing. At the June 5th Planning Commission meeting, Planning Commission reviewed the project. They 108 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:24,720 recommended approval. I voted a four to one. They had a few suggestions for the council. They asked 109 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:30,400 that the city, that the council consider something and a requiring advisory committee to 110 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:36,080 made up of comprised of two planning commissioners to help the city manager make those decisions on 111 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:41,200 the design of the project and also they wanted to expedite the timeframe from which the project must 112 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,800 move forward. Moving it from was been proposed at 18 months and reducing it to 12 months. The intent 113 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:53,360 is to hopefully, like I said, expect the project moving along. I should identify or just point out that 114 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:58,960 prior to what you're seeing today, back in 2020, the city council approved a purchase agreement with the 115 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:05,680 former applicant, the prior for the purchase of Pearl Street Garage in 2022. That agreement was amended 116 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:11,040 and transferred to the current applicant team in a 2024 agreement for a purchase exchange of the 117 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:17,760 whiteberry plaza was approved by the city council. Those actions were a public hearing that was 118 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:23,520 noticed like any public hearing would be, so it's wanted to be clear that this project has had public 119 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:28,880 involvement. Public hearings going back five years, so this is not the first time that this project 120 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:35,040 has been kicked around at the city hearings. It's just an important factor because the perception is that 121 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,040 this project is kind of appeared on a note where I want to be clear that it has been in the works. 122 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,040 Under the applicant team talks about being in the works of over six years, but from the city, 123 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:50,160 it's been in the works of at least five. Staff recommends that the city council, I'm not going to read 124 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:56,960 everything that you've seen before. If the city attorney is allows, I'll just briefly overview that we 125 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,400 approve the first reading and introduction of an ordinance approving a development agreement 126 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:07,520 that would authorize the development of this project as we've discussed and also approve the first reading 127 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,800 and introduction of an ordinance for a planned development overlay that would allow the 128 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:17,200 modification of the downtown entertainment district and then approve the first reading and introduction 129 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:22,000 of an ordinance extending, I'm sorry, I already said the entertainment district. The PD, I'm sorry, 130 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:26,720 the other one would be the planned development overlay and then also approve a resolution, 131 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:32,480 approving the 10 of the parcel map, reconfigured the seven existing parcels into three parcels 132 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:38,880 when one time any and one airspace parcel. I'm here for any questions you may have, 133 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,880 we have the deputy city attorney slash public works director, I'm sorry, 134 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,720 committee general director, Molly Rattigan here as well as writer Dilly from the planning division, 135 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:51,520 we've got some of the consultants that have worked with staff on this project available in the applicant team 136 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:57,520 has an army of consultants with them to answer any of your questions. Thanks, Tim. 137 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:03,600 Tim Mike, you know, Walker Allen, it's all good. 138 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:14,160 My fault, yeah, I was looking at the agenda. So the closures, if the council member has received 139 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:20,800 information prior to this hearing that is important to the decision-making process of this hearing 140 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:26,640 such as information learned during site visits or discussions with constituents and if the 141 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:33,840 information is not included in the written matter for this item please disclose the information at this time. 142 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:39,920 So participants in this hearing can have an opportunity to consider that information going down to 143 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,080 council member Dina Talley. I've met with the development team and done a site visit. 144 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:52,000 I have met several times over the years with the applicant and their representative. I also 145 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:59,040 worked previously with Todd Zipalsky for several years during the very early stages of considering new 146 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:05,840 uses at this site. I was 2017-2018. So a number of years ago it doesn't present a conflict but it 147 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,880 does mean that I have a rather detailed understanding of the existing conditions and I do have 148 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:16,160 knowledge of the very early planning efforts. Also listen to the planning commission meeting where 149 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,400 there were detailed questions and recommendations which we may be discussing this evening. 150 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:29,360 Thank you. I have the common disclosures met with applicant site visits, 151 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:37,600 discussed the concerns with some constituents over the project that nothing really of substance 152 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:44,160 outside of this hearing. Same for me. I listen to the planning commission meeting. I've met with the 153 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:49,280 developers team several times over the years and I've spoken with staff about some different 154 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,920 options and discussed concerns with some constituents but nothing of substance. 155 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:00,480 Similar I met with the development and their representatives several times over the last few 156 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:06,480 years. I did attend that open house. I spoke to some business owners and other constituents 157 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:14,720 guarding this and I also watched the planning commission. Thank you. At this time we'll 158 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:26,880 receive our opening statements from the applicant. So I think the center stage podium is for 159 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:36,400 the opening comments 10 minutes. If you could introduce yourself would be great. All right. Good evening 160 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:41,360 honorable mayor members of the council. My name is Jerry Hunt for for Fort Taylor Road. 161 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:50,640 It's an honor and a privilege to be here tonight to share with you this incredible project and 162 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:58,960 represent our ownership team on a project I hope you conclude will help complete the city's vision for downtown. 163 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:05,920 I like to start by thanking the city council for your commitment to the downtown vision 164 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:12,880 and for your service to your community. I would like to thank and acknowledge the city manager's 165 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:21,440 office and staff Molly and Ricky in particular who I can report has represented and negotiated vigorously 166 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,480 for the city's interest for the document and the application that we have in front of you today. 167 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:35,520 And I'd like to thank the Napa community who has really just been wonderful for with us. We started as 168 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:44,400 investors in 2022. We became guests in this community and now we're members of this community. 169 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:53,440 We have met with many community members over the course and most recently had an open house that was 170 00:22:53,440 --> 00:23:01,040 reference where I think we have between 125 people do 150 people and the support was overwhelming. 171 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:04,320 We did have some questions and concerns which we answered. 172 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:15,200 We can go to the next slide please. We're here tonight because the city of Napa for a variety of 173 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:22,720 reasons I'd like to touch on tonight. Not the least of which is the 2012 specific plan which is mentioned 174 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:32,080 earlier by Mike and the staff report. Specific plan for people like us and the development 175 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:38,960 business is an open for business sign that cities put up. Specific plans are not only specific but 176 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:45,280 very aspirational documents we read them all the time and I can tell you that many cities lay out 177 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:50,320 these specific plans and the dreams are too big and they never realize their dream that are in 178 00:23:50,320 --> 00:24:00,240 this specific plan and I would also say in that specific plan as mentioned it had a town center 179 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:06,880 focus area that was identified as the commercial heart of the downtown next slide please Mike. 180 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:16,560 This is the town center focus area and of the objectives that were identified in that specific plan it 181 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:25,280 had a number of lofty goals and it including respecting the historic buildings and proving 182 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:34,720 the pedestrian connections that Napa promoting mixed use development gathering places reactivating 183 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:45,200 brown street, Dwight Murray Plaza, does 9-11 memorial, high quality housing, Napa Creek focus, 184 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:57,360 network of pedestrian pathways, luxurious hotels, and a gateway for first and main street. Next slide please. 185 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:09,680 What preceded this moment is the city and the community already started executing on the plan 186 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:16,720 prior to our arrival, you know the flood project, the oxbow commons, two-way streets, the river walk, 187 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:24,560 the redevelopment of the first street shops, the archer hotel and I can't say enough about the rich 188 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:31,120 fabric that your community has organically grown in the stores and the restaurants that really make 189 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:38,240 downtown Napa such a unique and wonderful destination and of course the 9-11 memorial. Next slide please Mike. 190 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:47,360 We hope that you conclude tonight that our application and our project meets or exceeds all of 191 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:54,400 those objectives that are stated in that specific plan. Starting here this is the building that sat on 192 00:25:54,400 --> 00:26:02,320 what is now Dwight Murray Plaza, the Miglia Vaca building and as a famous world famous artist here in 193 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:11,520 town Gordon says we're redeveloping what the redevelopment agency tore down in the 70s. Next slide please. 194 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:18,000 This is a perspective from first street, the building consisting with the guidelines 195 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:24,800 comes up to the street and what we have introduced in this plan is really an inviting 196 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:31,840 semi-pilbolic but really civic space. Next slide please. And this conservatory, this conservatory is 197 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:38,720 4,000 square feet and as you can see from the image there we started this with it being open to the sky 198 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,040 and then it turned into this. I'll get into that a little later. Next slide please. 199 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:51,200 Here's some other semi-pilbolic civic spaces. This is a rooftop terrace next slide. 200 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:58,720 And this is a perspective from Main Street looking at the project you can see the hotel on the left side 201 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:05,680 and the residential project on the right side. What divides it is mentioned is this really grand 202 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:13,360 per se. It's 45 feet wide. It's not an alleyway. It's not a breezeway and we're very excited how that connects 203 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:21,680 to the Napa shops to the rest of downtown through the 911 Memorial which we were so delighted when we 204 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:30,720 got involved with this project that you have this really wonderful memorial, this sacred space that was 205 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:38,960 really behind a cold building with brutalist architecture it's called. And now it will be 206 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:49,040 honored at the main gateway at the entry to Napa. Next slide please. These are good perspectives because 207 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:55,360 it shows how this project really completes the intersection of that pedestrian connectivity. 208 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:01,600 And you can walk all the way from Oxford Commons and all the way deep into first street by only 209 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:09,600 crossing streets. You can see on the slide on the right the public space offering at the grade level. 210 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:16,240 To put it in perspective that's about 34,000 square feet of public space area which is about three 211 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:22,880 quarters of a football field that is distributed throughout that front edge in that grand entry there. 212 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:36,320 Let me just check one out soon. And next slide please. Here's a perspective sitting inside that 213 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:44,880 main street entry. The 911 is just behind you in this perspective but you can see how this really will 214 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:52,800 activate brown street. It engages that to say oh it engages Napa Creek and will really be a significant 215 00:28:52,800 --> 00:29:03,680 civic and public gathering place. Next slide. And I'll close since I was given 10 minutes for 30 216 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:11,440 minute presentation that at a personal level I've been in this business longer than I care to admit. I've 217 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:17,840 been involved in many development projects, redevelopment agency projects that are all really civic 218 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,200 pride community sense of pride type of projects. We can do the easier route and do cold storage 219 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,400 facilities and storage facilities and office buildings and suburban offices that nobody cares about. 220 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:34,080 These projects take great care and passion and collaboration with the community and we hope you 221 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:42,880 conclude that we have done that here with this. I would also say that none of this would be possible without 222 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:50,880 our capital partner and investor Chris George who's here this evening. Chris has been involved 223 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:59,120 with us at this since the inception and like us grew a passion for this and really demanded a level of 224 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,120 excellence. 225 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:18,000 That I've never seen before. He has trip in us to go further. There's many examples of projects were reviewing something. He says that's not meaningful enough to do a better job, and that's what you'll see in all of the imagery that we have. 226 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:46,000 Then I'll close with, I can't help myself. If you really look at it, you have the oxbow commons, trails that dead end into a cold wall. You have the napas shops that dead end into a wall, a brutalist architecture, and so I'll just close with Mr. Mayor, members of the council, tear down this wall. 227 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:54,000 Thank you, Mr. Hunt, and thank you for staying on time. 228 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:04,000 So, at this time we will open public testimony to the audience, submit speaker cards if you haven't already, please. 229 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:14,000 Time is limited to three minutes. The speaker will sound when your time is a little light, we'll leave that to you. 230 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000 City Clerk, do we help speak your cards? 231 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:27,000 We do, Mayor, we have a total of 22 cards, so I will start by calling the first calling them in a group of five and just come up as your name is is called. 232 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,000 J. Bradshaw, Jessica Owens, Chris Palomo, 233 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,000 Hullindo Afaro, and Katie Stuponon. 234 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:44,000 All right, good evening, Honorable Mayor and City Council members. It's an honor to be here tonight. 235 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:53,000 My name is J. Bradshaw. I'm proud to serve as the Executive Officer for the North Cal Carpenter's Union, which represents 38,000 hardworking men and women throughout Northern California. 236 00:31:53,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Many of who work and live in this area in generally come into you in strong support of the Sponsors project and just to serve from our perspective. 237 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:14,000 You know, we've had a presence in Napa County for over 100 years helping uplift workers create opportunity and build this fantastic community and we continue to do that. 238 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:29,000 This project in particular, developer and project sponsor and also with their partner general contractor approaches workers and the community and a positive manner creating good, great union jobs. 239 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:36,000 There will uplift a lot of folks from the local area in the hundreds, possibly up to 500 construction jobs. 240 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:44,000 But also from us, to give you a little insight on that, it will create dozens and dozens of new apprenticeship opportunities as well. 241 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:55,000 That we are hyper focused on uplifting particularly the underserved communities and we are a strong supporter of stimulus that continues to give to the community and uplift all. 242 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:05,000 So we are proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with the developer and with the City of Napa and continue our long history of working collaboratively to make sure that all prosper. 243 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:18,000 And on a side note, looking at this project design, it's also very environmental and supports one of our primary missions as the North Cal Carpenter Senior is delivering workforce and affordable housing. 244 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:28,000 So our hats are off to you and your hard work here and the staff and of course to our partner developer and to our general contractor to deliver one of the best projects Napa has ever seen. Thank you for your time. 245 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:37,000 Thank you Mr. Bradshaw and thank you for your team showing up here. Looking good. 246 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:44,000 Good evening Mayor and council members. My name is Jessica Owens and I'm a proud apprentice carpenter with a North Cal Carpenter Junior. 247 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:51,000 I am here tonight to speak in full support of the first straight Napa phase to project and urge you to adopt the resolution and move forward. 248 00:33:51,000 --> 00:34:05,000 As a woman entering this trade, I worked hard to earn my place in this field project like projects like this one don't mean just jobs they mean opportunity opportunity opportunity for people like me to build a career support our families and contribute to our community with pride. 249 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:19,000 The developers going are doing that the right way by parting with partnering with build group as the GC they are bringing skilled local union workers that ensures safety quality and area area standard wages and benefits. 250 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:26,000 This project will help strengthen Napa's economy and give workers like me the chance to thrive. Please vote yes on the resolution. Thank you. 251 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,000 Thank you Jessica. 252 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:41,000 Good evening Mayor council members and staff. My name is Chris Plomo and I'm the senior organizer with a North Cal Carpenter Junior and a local 751 representing Napa County. 253 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000 I'd like to thank you guys for allowing me to speak tonight. 254 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,000 I'm here tonight to speak in strong support of the first straight Napa phase to project. 255 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:54,000 I would like to thank the developer for their commitment to use build group who's a reputable general contractor throughout California and the neighboring states. 256 00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:01,000 The project represents more than destruction as a commitment to strong labor standards exceptional craftsmanship and a stronger more resilient Napa. 257 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:10,000 For our members this project means good paying jobs access to quality health care and the dignity of knowing their work is helping shape the future of their own community. 258 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:19,000 The projects like this ensure that apprentices will get hands on a training under experience journeymen allowing the next generation of Napa's workforce to grow into lifelong careers. 259 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:25,000 This is exactly the kind of opportunity that keeps young people rooted in our region and lives working families into the middle class. 260 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:31,000 The first straight Napa phase 2 project will deliver economic activity, walkable housing and jobs that stay in the community. 261 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,000 It reflects a smart future facing approach to development. 262 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,000 One that does not come at the expense of the workforce but instead of lifts it. 263 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:43,000 I urge you to support this project and the positive momentum of my brings for both workers and the city of Napa. 264 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000 Thank you for your time. 265 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,000 Thanks Chris. 266 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,000 Good evening council members. My name is Arlene Lothado. 267 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000 I'm a field representative for the North Cal Carpenter's Union. 268 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,000 I'm also a lifelong Napa resident, raising born. 269 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,000 I now have a privilege to raise my kids here. 270 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,000 I'm here to express strong support for this development. 271 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,000 This would bring years of work for all construction workers that live in the area. 272 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,000 Keeping them close to home and avoiding hours of traffic. 273 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,000 With the responsible general contractor like bill group, carpenters will be able to be paid. 274 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:25,000 To be paid a livable area standards wages as well as medical and retirement benefits that allows workers and their families to live in the communities that they work in. 275 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,000 This project will bring pathways to our community and economic growth as they spend their earnings. 276 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,000 And their tax dollars will help fund local schools and government. 277 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:39,000 I am excited to see our city grow and respectfully urge the council to adopt this resolution. 278 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,000 Thank you. 279 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,000 Thank you. 280 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,000 Good evening. 281 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,000 My name is Katie Stupian and I'm here as a journeyman carpenter. 282 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,000 I'm a journeyman carpenter with North Cal Carpenter's Union. 283 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000 Local 751. 284 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,000 I'm here tonight to speak in strong support of the first straight nap of phase 2 project. 285 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,000 And I urge you to adopt the resolution in front of you tonight. 286 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,000 This project represents more than just economic development. 287 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,000 It represents for all opportunities for blue collar workers like me. 288 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:26,000 And all my brothers and sisters here behind me to keep working close to home earning good wages and building a better future for our families. 289 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:36,000 So please do the right thing working for our working families and for our community support the first straight nap of phase 2 project and adopt this resolution. 290 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,000 Thank you for your time. 291 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Thank you. 292 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,000 Thank you. 293 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,000 Okay, next five names. 294 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:53,000 Gordon Huther, Jerry Hansen, Christine French, Eric Tepher, and Rich Tuppet. 295 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000 Thank you Mr. Mayor, council members. 296 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:03,000 My name is Gordon Huther, 1041 McKenzie Drive, Napa resident since 1962. 297 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:11,000 1962 I was two years old and is when my parents brought me here against my will. 298 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,000 But I'm very grateful that they did because like all of you I just love Napa. 299 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,000 I like to offer my comments of support on this important project. 300 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,000 And in the interest of full transparency and as he board, I was already been mentioned. 301 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:37,000 I'm indeed the artist for this project and I'm the leading creative effort of upgrading and improving the 911 Memorial Garden. 302 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:46,000 As we all know, our downtown is experiencing amazing, amazing transformation over the past 20 years. 303 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:56,000 And we've managed to transform our downtown from a boarded up dead in dark downtown to a vibrant destination for both visitors and locals. 304 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:04,000 All this work of the past 20 years has created the fertile ground and attracting a half a billion dollar private investment. 305 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Thanks Chris. 306 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,000 Love you. 307 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,000 That in my opinion is the proverbial cherry on the Sunday for our beloved downtown. 308 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:22,000 This cherry on the Sunday far exceeds anything that we had hoped for when we created the downtown specific plan. 309 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:34,000 This project represents the redevelopment of the disastrous redevelopment of the 70s and we should all be super excited and supportive. 310 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:52,000 Project has been 13 years in the making and six years in the city process and we're so close now to breaking ground and with your support, we hope to see this project completed third quarter last quarter of twenty twenty seven and hopefully we can tear that cold down. 311 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,000 Maybe as soon as next month that would be amazing so appreciate it. 312 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,000 Thank you Gordon. 313 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,000 Good evening Mayor Sedgley and members of the Council. 314 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000 I'm Jerry Hansen, I am the CEO of the Napa Chamber of Commerce. 315 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,000 This project represents more than just new buildings. 316 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,000 It's a forward looking investment in the future of our community while also recognizing our past. 317 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:33,000 This parcel is a cornerstone of our downtown high visibility prominence, but for far too long its potential has been under utilized and unrealized. 318 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:40,000 Now we have an opportunity to transform this space into a vibrant welcoming and more productive part of our town. 319 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:51,000 This development also brings a thoughtfully integrated mix of uses and importantly as you've heard a dynamic public plaza and public spaces offering long-term community value. 320 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000 Inviting both connection and connectivity. 321 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,000 These elements together are more than the sum of their parts. 322 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,000 They represent smart, intentional, place-making that will breathe new life into this area. 323 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,000 From an economic development perspective the benefits are compelling. 324 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:19,000 The financial commitment to support the housing being developed at the Methodist Church helps address local demand by adding much needed and critical supply of housing. 325 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:25,000 And this support is for a housing project that is shovel ready and is actually going to be built not just planned. 326 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,000 This kind of private investment signals confidence in our community. 327 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:39,000 It shows that we're open for business that we are planning intentionally for growth and that we're committed to innovation yet with still a strong regard for our history. 328 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:46,000 And you heard tonight economic development was mentioned several times and it occurred to me through the comments prior. 329 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:59,000 Economic development isn't just about the economics, it's about housing, it's about jobs, it's about upward mobility and lifting people and it's really about not just building a project but building a community. 330 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:07,000 I urge you to support this project so that the process and the progress begins straight away and brings this exciting vision to life. 331 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,000 Thank you. 332 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:31,000 Good evening, Mayor and council members, my name is Christine Madrid French, I'm the executive director of Napa County landmarks, a proud and a president. 333 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:44,000 I also have 33 years experience in architectural history and preservation nationwide and advanced degree from the University of Virginia and I meet the Secretary of Interior Standards for Architectural History. 334 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:55,000 I'm here tonight to speak in support of the project while also highlighting a few key areas of focus collaboration that will protect the historic structures of downtown Napa. 335 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:11,000 This development does offer an opportunity to reinvigorate a portion of downtown that has remained underutilized the historic street grid and storefront alignments will be restored which increases pedestrian flow through new public spaces. 336 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,000 Elements that will reconnect people with the heart of our city. 337 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:28,000 But that said we do have concerns, we want to ensure that all historic structures particularly the first national bank and the Gordon building are appropriately accommodated during the design and construction phases. 338 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:38,000 We have met productively numerous times with the 300 venture group and their engineers to discuss mitigation and protections for these historic structures. 339 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:49,000 Our goal is to secure proper buffer zones and vibration monitoring to protect against any unintended damages to these irreplaceable historic structures. 340 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:57,000 Also to that end we are documenting the first national bank building which we have owned for three decades as an organization. 341 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:08,000 Using 3D laser scanning and photogrammetry to ensure that the original structures conditions and character defining features are recorded before any demolition or construction begins. 342 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:16,000 In addition, we are working with the development team, the city and our valued long-time tenant. 343 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:32,000 Resuronte, Allegria, to reinstate outdoor dining options for the restaurant, find solutions for shared waste disposal for the local businesses and accommodate deliveries with minimal economic impact to their operations. 344 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:41,000 Let's work together to ensure that as we build for the future, we honor the stories and structures that make downtown Napa to these special. 345 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,000 Thank you. 346 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:58,000 Thank you. Thank you for having us here. My name is Eric Effer and the owner of Coles Chophouse. 347 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,000 I thought it was amazing when. 348 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,000 And I was looking at those slides, and we saw them one of 2012. 349 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:12,000 2012 was a long time ago. And the portion that caught me a little off guard was the mayoral's building. 350 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:20,000 I've lived in Napa for 47 years. I've seen changes from when I was a child that Napa was a military town. 351 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,000 People forget Merrillon was the first military base on the west coast of America. 352 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:33,000 I was established, I want to say in 1868. When I was a child, we were almost a military town. 353 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:40,000 Unfortunately, the military base closed and seen the transformation that the city of Napa has gone through is mind-boggling. 354 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:49,000 If you would have asked anyone in this room 25 years ago, could you have imagined a project like this coming to Napa? 355 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000 Honestly. 356 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000 No. Not of us good. 357 00:45:53,000 --> 00:46:03,000 I mean, if I might father pass away 10 years ago, and he lived in Napa in the 60s, and he told me about all these incredible buildings that were torn down during the 70s. 358 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:09,000 And if he would have seen something like this, he might have had another hard attack return over in his grave. 359 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:15,000 It's an incredible accomplishment that the investment is coming to the city of Napa. 360 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,000 I've seen the transformation from the last 25 years. 361 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:30,000 But the one thing I did want to make sure to mention is the reason that the success of this community has happened is the businesses that have been here for the last 25 years. 362 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:36,000 You know, we can all confess this is going to blow everyone's mind away when it's completed. 363 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:43,000 But there are certain businesses, and the one that's definitely going to have the biggest focus on is restaurant allegria. 364 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:55,000 They've been established now for 23 years, and I believe strongly that the developers are willing to work with them to make sure that this project is going to have the least impact on them. 365 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:02,000 The one thing that I have to say is, I want to implore on every city council member, every city official. 366 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:10,000 This is going to affect restaurant allegria more than anyone. Everyone knows and two and a half February 27 or 27. 367 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,000 But these two years are going to be a little bit challenging. 368 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:22,000 So I ask the city, whatever you can do to make sure that fast-track permits help them out as much as you possibly can. 369 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,000 Breation has brought the road to employ 65 employees. 370 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:31,000 During this construction, they're going to lose a certain percentage of their seating. 371 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,000 Please try to help them to get everything back. 372 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:39,000 Although this project is going to be incredible for Napa, but it is going to affect individuals. 373 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:47,000 And I'm going to have full confidence in the developers that they're going to do everything they can to make this project as seamless as possible. 374 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:55,000 Now I just ask the city, please try to help them out also to make sure that when they're ready to open back up, help them out with the permany process also. 375 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,000 Thank you. 376 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,000 Thank you. 377 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,000 Good evening Mayor city council staff. 378 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,000 I'm Richard Tippett, local here on East Street. 379 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,000 I'm here to speak on sport of this project in sport of this project. 380 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:19,000 It's a good project that will be a huge asset for our town for generations to come. 381 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,000 I'll admit that I don't agree with all the aspects of the project and the things that I would change. 382 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:33,000 But if we wait for everyone to agree with every aspect of this project, we continue to lose jobs, continue to lose population, and be in the same spot 10 years from now. 383 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,000 So let's move forward this project as is and not delay. 384 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,000 It's time for an app and move forward and say yes to our backyard. 385 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,000 Thank you. 386 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,000 Thank you. 387 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:51,000 Next group of names, Bill Tuica, John Sensenbaugh, Greg Hamtil, Chris Craker and Lisa Stockton. 388 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:10,000 Good evening Mayor and council members, staff. 389 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,000 My name is Bill Tuica. 390 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:17,000 I've been a Napper residence since 1989 by how time flies. 391 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:22,000 Many of you know me as I am currently on the Cultural Heritage Commission. 392 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,000 And for 30 years I was a city planner. 393 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,000 I retired seven years ago. 394 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,000 So now I have a little more free time to look at plans like this. 395 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:36,000 Most of my career I was involved with reviewing historic preservation projects. 396 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:44,000 However, I remember back in I think it was 2015 or 2016 the city had prepared a plan to rehabilitate the Dwight Murray Plaza. 397 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:57,000 And that plan brought it up to a great level and made provisions for outdoor dining for not only the restaurant that's in the first national bank building but also other restaurants that are that were in the area and made it. 398 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:07,000 I remember at that time they said it made it very European and feel this 2016 plan assumed that the existing buildings were there for a while and of course we know that never happened. 399 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:13,000 So what I see tonight is really a huge step forward in downtown plans. 400 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:21,000 However, I'm a little disappointed that the space along First Street with the current Dwight Murray Plaza is going to be narrowed. 401 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:28,000 And my suggestion would be there's an area where there's a notch in the building if you look on the site plan. 402 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:36,000 And if that was just moved a little bit further to the West say 20 or 25 feet, the gathering space of Dwight Murray Plaza would still be there. 403 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:48,000 That would give at least 80, 90 or 100 feet up to 100 feet of space that would be available to have a very European feeling and a very open feeling on First Street. 404 00:50:48,000 --> 00:51:02,000 Now, you know I know there's a passeal that's planned in the back but you know how that went before we tried the town center and there for many years nothing was in there and it was you know a dark space behind the you know the main street. 405 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:13,000 My feeling is that having something on First Street with you know First and Main that's the most important part of downtown Nappa and opening that up to be a more European facility. 406 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:41,000 And also if you were to have retail or restaurant spaces in the corner of the building as you see where the curve is and maybe move the entrance to the hotel back a little further up to where the parking is the drop off parking I think that would make a more successful project you could actually have as you look from the Opera House as you look towards the hotel you could have a grand entrance there that would be you know quite elegant. 407 00:51:41,000 --> 00:52:09,000 Anyway, it's really what I think would make this more successful project to really take a look at and maybe the council can you know consider putting some of that square foot is that's lost by moving the building back in another area either granting a little extra height or putting a bridge over that passeal and back somewhere where they could recapture that square footage. Thank you. Thank you, Bill. 408 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:21,000 Mr. Mayor and Nappa Council members. My name is Sean Sensenbott. I want to echo a lot of what the previous speaker just said. 409 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:35,000 I think that we lose too much of that gathering place right up front. I went to the open house week or two ago and learned that there's no dimensions on any of the plans that they submitted that I saw. 410 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:47,000 But I did ask him what the the distances between the allegory of hotel and the eastern end of the proposed hotel the allegory of restaurant should say and a 65 feet. 411 00:52:47,000 --> 00:53:03,000 Well, I did a scale kind of a rough scale of the hotel that be facing first street the southern portion of the building and that looks like it's approximately 150 feet long. I worry that we lose that retail flow that we have done a good job of developing and so forth. 412 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:15,000 By not having any of that a long first street there. We also have to think ahead a little bit. We know that the county would like to someday move out of the old careers building across the street, which is another brutalist building. 413 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:25,000 And I presume that we would want to continue the restaurants and the retail along that side of the street too that we have developed to the west. 414 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:33,000 And I just do worry that we don't have any that in this plan. It's a great plan. It's a great improvement to the whole area. 415 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:45,000 But I do think like the previous speaker we do need a little more community space common area some retail some restaurants to continue that flow on first street. Thank you. 416 00:53:45,000 --> 00:54:07,000 Good evening Mayor and city council members. My name is Greg Hampton. I'm a local resident. I agree with the previous speakers about the impact it's going to have on allegory. 417 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:19,000 It's a successful business that we've had in Napa for quite some time and we really need to consider their impact it's going to have on the restaurant. 418 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:28,000 I'd like to share my thoughts on the proposed project. I noticed that the current plan does not include any new public features along first street. 419 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:41,000 Particularly where the existing town square areas now. I believe the city should strongly consider and corporate dedicated town square either as part of this project or in future development. 420 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:57,000 Many thriving downtown such as those in Vacaville. San Luis Obispo Santa Monica have bright vibrant public squares that serve as gathering spaces for locals and visitors alike. 421 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:07,000 In fact some of the most beloved cities in Europe are built around beautiful town squares for that foster community and event life. 422 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:15,000 Downtown Napa deserves the same. A town square would encourage more locals to visit and engage with the heart of our city. 423 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:23,000 I'm not just terrorists. I'm all for this project. I think it's a great project but I'd like to see consideration for the down. 424 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:33,000 Allegria and first street. I think they should move it back a little from first street. I think it's crowd in first street and I agree with the previous speakers. 425 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:42,000 There should be like cafes. Incorporate first street into the not just the surrounding area. Thank you guys. 426 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,000 Appreciate your help. 427 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,000 Thank you. 428 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:58,000 Hi. My name is Lisa Stockin. I am an appernative who is now raising her own kids here. 429 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:06,000 And I'm also a writer and I've had the opportunity to work on some historical research projects throughout the valley. One of which was on downtown Napa. 430 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,000 So I just came to share that perspective. 431 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:18,000 When Napa was founded in 1847 the first structure built here was a saloon and quickly added to that was a hotel. 432 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:26,000 By 1854 when our population was just over 300 there were 40 buildings four of which were hotels. 433 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:35,000 Napa back then was said to be one of the busiest little towns in California with mercantiles, a theater, music and a jockey club. 434 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:45,000 Over the next few decades the valley advertised itself as a tourist destination and the hotels downtown got larger and more luxurious. 435 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:52,000 An example of this is the palace hotel which had 70 rooms all of which had a private bath and fireplace. 436 00:56:52,000 --> 00:57:07,000 Tourism jobs grew in number from 250% from 1852 to 1872 and by 1907 we had at least 14 hotels in our prosperous city center. 437 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:15,000 Prohibition and the depression slow tourism year a bit of course and the growth of downtown. 438 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:22,000 But Napa had become fairly industrialized by this point and was home to several factories which kept locals afloat. 439 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:32,000 In the 1940s our population grew rapidly as people moved here to assist in the war efforts at Maryland and also here in town. 440 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:38,000 The borders of our town were expanded a few times as new subdivisions and shopping centers popped up quickly. 441 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:46,000 Deluding downtown is our main hub by the late 1960s downtown was no longer the epicenter and no longer thriving. 442 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:52,000 To address this in 1969 the city formed a redevelopment plan for downtown. 443 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,000 Unfortunately this led to the destruction of 40 historic buildings. 444 00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:03,000 Even with the addition of a new shopping center and a public plaza downtown continued to struggle. 445 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:08,000 Although by the 90s the valley was alive with tourism again Napa didn't reap the benefits. 446 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:16,000 In fact from 1979 until the opening of the Napa river in 2000 we only had one hotel downtown. 447 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:27,000 Residents alone weren't enough to reinvigorate and keep downtown vibrant and like it's early decades and we didn't have enough on offer to keep visitors coming here. 448 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:42,000 So it has only been since the redevelopment of first street more recently and the addition of those two hotels that Napa has started to resemble the once vibrant and prosperous city center for tourists and locals like. 449 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,000 Thank you. 450 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,000 Thank you Lisa. 451 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:59,000 I'm Chris Craker I'm a local architect. 452 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,000 Mr. Mayor and council. 453 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:12,000 The residents have been waiting for some time to see the downtown Murray Plaza revitalize along with the Coles British ugly architecture. 454 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:22,000 We've had multiple artists competitions to resuscitate this very soul of the town but now a big polish project is going to wipe it out forever. 455 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:29,000 Seeing the resurrection of the macula vodka building is going to be restored that's ridiculous. 456 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,000 Now I'm not against this project I'm not. 457 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,000 I'm anxious and concerned about the process moving forward. 458 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:43,000 I see the lack of public input and design processing that's my biggest concerns right at this point time. 459 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:47,000 Planning Commission had one meeting on June 5th to reduce the project. 460 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:53,000 The one commissioner asked serious questions about the project and was chastised by the city attorney. 461 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,000 That's unnecessary. 462 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,000 This project has been going along behind closed doors for too long. 463 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,000 Not only are we eliminated. 464 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,000 We're also eliminating two surface parking lots for an unknown future parking agreement. It's going to be subterranean. 465 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:20,000 Is it going to be another parking structure? The city's been so skittish about parking meters, and yet you're going to allow a developer to decide how we're going to park downtown. Is that really what we want? 466 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:31,000 Murray Plaza will be erased, and a long horizontal access considered to be a Paseo is going to replace it, joining one into the 9-11 Memorial. 467 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:39,000 It's not the same. It's not a Paseo. It's going to be a long alleyway, and it's not going to be seen by the streets or by pedestrians. 468 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:45,000 Now, I've been going through the plans on this, and I only found one elevation of this built project. 469 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:53,000 Now, tonight, they brought a bunch more project exterior elevations, renderings, but they were not in part of the applications. 470 01:00:53,000 --> 01:01:00,000 There's a lot of 3D renderings. They're cool. Lots of diagrams on page 234, 234. 471 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:11,000 There's one elevation exterior elevation of one part of the building that is interesting, but who knows? This could be New York or could be Omaha, Nebraska. Sorry Omaha. 472 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:19,000 Now, don't get me wrong. Again, it could be a great project. I just don't think it's there yet, and I think it still deserves and requires more public input. 473 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:31,000 Then you need more drawings. I have to do more drawings for this planning department, then for a garage conversion for a commercial project, then they've provided so far. 474 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:43,000 I don't think that's correct. I found a landscape plan. Final landscape plan on page 236, which suggests that there'll be an open spaces between the buildings, but there's no plans. 475 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:52,000 Now, it could be great. Who knows? They also show examples of 250 year old olive trees. Give me a break. I've got olive trees. That's not going to happen. 476 01:01:52,000 --> 01:02:01,000 The applicant says that the improvements are all going to be approved ministerially by the city community development of construction documents, construction documents. 477 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:19,000 That's how we're really what you want to have them approved. You need public input on this project. You need the planning department to do a stop. They do a very good job of reviewing projects and reviewing the designs, and I think they should be continued to do it, but I think they should do it with the public input. 478 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,000 Thank you, Chris. 479 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:30,000 Next five names, Cole Johnson, Dave Whitmer, Ryan Gregory, Mike Holcomb, and Jacob Rodriguez. 480 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:47,000 Good evening, Mayor. Good evening, city council members. Good evening, staff. My name is Cole Johnson. I live in back ofill. 481 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:58,000 I'm a father of two, and I'm a veteran. I recently completed my tour of active duty with the Air Force, and then I heard about the helmets to hard hats program. 482 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:11,000 So I decided to join the union as a carpenter's apprentice, and for the last few months I've been doing some classes down at the schoolhouse, learning the trade, and tonight I want to speak in full and strong support of this project. 483 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:19,000 First and foremost, because I think it's a great opportunity to train apprentices like myself to get valuable on the job training. 484 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:29,000 We've been in the classroom learning how to properly perform the skilled labor, and now we have the opportunities to get on the job training. 485 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:44,000 For the past few months, I've been looking for work, and I've got some few leads, but I haven't had any opportunities to be on the job yet, and I think this project gives me hope that I just need to keep looking and get out there and a project like this is going to help me do that. 486 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:57,000 When I first completed my tour of active duty, the union really appealed to me because of the focus on craftsmanship and the pride of in what we build, but also taking care of the people that build those projects. 487 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:18,000 I think that's where the city of Napa and this project really meet is the fact that it would be built with union labor, that we would take great pride in building this project in the city that we know and the city that we love, and we'd be able to enjoy it for years and years to come, and it would be able to fit right in with the downtown architecture that you see. 488 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:24,000 This project gives me hope and I appreciate you giving the time for me to speak tonight. Thank you. 489 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:32,000 Thanks, school. 490 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:46,000 Good evening, mayors, actually, and members of council and staff. My name is Dave Whitmer, Lifetime resident of the city of Napa. 491 01:04:46,000 --> 01:05:04,000 I suppose you know I'm here tonight. I've spoken to just about all of you about the first United Methodist Church workforce housing project and I represent the first United Methodist Church in the work up on that plan. 492 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:09,000 It's entitlements, which I think the city for their help with. 493 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:17,000 As I was thinking about what to talk to you about tonight, you've received the letter from me by the way, and I'm not planning on reading it. 494 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:29,000 The word that came to mind was gratitude, seems to me that we don't often stop and take count of our blessings. 495 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:34,000 I feel gratitude a number of ways. 496 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:47,000 Your support for our project and moving it forward through your staff, the work of the city staff, I'm grateful. 497 01:05:47,000 --> 01:06:08,000 The community came out in support of our project and the idea of building housing for workers in downtown Napa was something that appealed to people and having someplace that might be walkable or bikeable was something that we heard a lot about. 498 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:21,000 I'm grateful for Kevin Teague for introducing me and the first United Methodist Church team to this incredible group through VG and the Coomstreet LLC. 499 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:35,000 I'm grateful for their vision for this project, for their commitment to workforce housing through their development agreement and contribution to our project. 500 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:48,000 I'm really grateful that the Council has been so thoughtful and not only determining the vision for our downtown, but for working through the process in just a way. 501 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:55,000 I've heard that there hasn't been enough public comment, quite frankly, I don't agree with that. 502 01:06:55,000 --> 01:07:08,000 I think you have been very astute in the way you've worked through the process and I'm grateful for that. 503 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:17,000 I am grateful for a development team who strives for the excellence that all of us in Napa strive for. 504 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:30,000 I was fortunate enough to work with the wine industry here and they work every day to try and be the best of the best of the best and what I see out of this development team is to try and bring that to Napa as well. 505 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:39,000 Thank you. 506 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:47,000 Good evening, my name is Ryan Gregory. It was 15 years ago you all convened the downtown specific plant steering committee. I had the honor of being appointed to it. 507 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:54,000 A few of the folks in the audience were on the committee with me. We drank big and we could only imagine at that time what would come from it. 508 01:07:54,000 --> 01:08:01,000 It was 13 years ago then we were here. We finished the plan before you asking you to endorse it and approve it. You did. 509 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:09,000 Right away, you got into converting the one way streets to two way, which was huge piece of infrastructure that underpinned all these changes coming. 510 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:26,000 And then came archer hotel open 1617 something like that. It was mentioned earlier as a milestone, but those of us that live here know how consequential the archer hotel was phase one of this project because we had this going on over here this energy formed around the on does and Norman rose. 511 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:35,000 We had what's going on in Main Street, but it just it didn't connect because of all the empty storefront between so archer came along and unified all that. 512 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:46,000 This is phase two just finishing the job. It's in my view exactly what I imagined when I sat on the specific plant committee 15 years ago. 513 01:08:46,000 --> 01:09:01,000 A new better building to replace the old mervin's goals replaced the grid and create a modern and usable process for for an apple. It's exactly what I had in mind. 514 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:09,000 Vision was set 15 years ago. We're just finishing the job today. So I asked for your vote tonight in favor of the project. Thanks for your time. 515 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:19,000 Thanks Ryan. Good to see you. 516 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:31,000 Hello mayor council staff Michael Hulcomb just wanted to come here and and just say that I support the project and actually just really really excited about the project. 517 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:49,000 We're a lot of hats in downtown sit on a lot of different boards chamber the peabid and I just keep thinking about how much how exciting this project is for all the people that are in downtown and and also in the community. 518 01:09:49,000 --> 01:10:12,000 Do brokerage as my primary job and I talked to a lot of the tenants on a daily basis. I at least you know work with landlords I work with with tenants and this project is going to be a very very big impact to bring in more people downtown living there visiting there and just think it's going to be really exciting. 519 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:19,000 I also want to say that I think that to kind of echo Eric's comments as far as like trying to do whatever you can to work with. 520 01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:27,000 Restaurant allegory I think we we do that I don't think that there's can't think of any other tenants that have worked as hard as a pretty soon. 521 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:37,000 But I think this project as much as we can do to get this going. This is just incredible opportunity and we're really lucky to have it. Thank you. 522 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,000 Thank you Michael. 523 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:57,000 Good evening there in council members. My name is Jacob Anthony Rodriguez. I'm an apprentice carpenter with the NorCal Carpenter's Union at a local 1.80 in Bale. 524 01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:04,000 I'm here tonight to speak in strong support of the first street Napa face to project and I ask you to adopt this resolution. 525 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:13,000 As someone who just start as someone just starting out in the trades opportunities like these mean everything this project creates real hands on experience for apprentices like me. 526 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:20,000 Helping us build our skills learn from experience during and grow into the next generation of carpenters who will continue to build this community. 527 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:29,000 The more projects like this time we forward the more doors open for local workers to succeed not just with a job but with a long term career and construction. 528 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:41,000 That's what this project represents for me and for so many others please. Well, yes on this resolution your support helps us helps us build not only the project but also our future. Thank you. 529 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,000 Thank you David. 530 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:50,000 Okay, last three cards that I have up here. Todd's the Polsky Chuck Shinniman and Jostlin Lynn. 531 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:05,000 Good evening everybody. Todd's the Polsky first street Napa Gordon building. 532 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:12,000 How many people were here? May 2nd 2012. 533 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,000 I think it could be guys were here right in the middle. 534 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:26,000 So it started then it was a community decision to have a specific plan. It was ambitious. It was crazy. 535 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:33,000 It was big. But we believed in it and we started in 2012 with first stream. 536 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:39,000 And then we did Gordon building and then we bought the calls building with the idea to finish it. 537 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,000 Unfortunately little thing came up with called COVID. 538 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:49,000 And so our sort of dream to be part and be leading the phase two was handed to a great group. 539 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:54,000 They had the time and resources to take it on after we will lost three or four years in our program. 540 01:12:54,000 --> 01:13:00,000 So without question obviously I support this and I ask you tonight to finish the job. 541 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:12,000 We've done a lot to get it here before me with all the people like Barry Price and others who did so much to start turning around to Napa at the product country. 542 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:17,000 But now's the time for you to vote to finish up. Thank you. 543 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,000 Thanks Todd. 544 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:32,000 Hi. Good evening Mayor Sedgley members of the City Council and staff. 545 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:37,000 My name is Joss Lynn Lynn. I'm the Chief Real Estate Development Officer for Birmingham Housing. 546 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:45,000 And I'm here to express our support of the arrangement made under the development agreement for the affordable housing contribution, 547 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:51,000 which will be used for our project that we are partnering with the Napa Methodist Church on. 548 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,000 And so I just want to let you know that this contribution is important. 549 01:13:54,000 --> 01:14:06,000 It will jump start our project. It will serve as a key early source of funding that will allow us to leverage additional funding sources through state programs and low income housing tax credits. 550 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:16,000 And so you know I'd like to thank the city and KVG and the Napa Methodist Church for considering our project as a recipient for the affordable housing contribution. 551 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:23,000 And just really you know want to thank you and really look forward to working together. Thanks so much. 552 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,000 Thanks Joss Lynn. Thank you. 553 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,000 Good evening. 554 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,000 Thank you. 555 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,000 Thank you. 556 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:15,000 Since then, both professionally doing it building apartments myself, but you have a lot of folks here tonight who are rightfully going to be benefiting from construction of the hotel. 557 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:24,000 But they have a whole bunch of employees who aren't here tonight. The folks are actually going to be doing the cleaning of the rooms, doing the engineering in the hotel and all the rest. 558 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:34,000 There's somewhere around by the developers' count somewhere between 85 and 90 employees who qualify for affordable housing. 559 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:48,000 So I sent you an example using the hourly rates for the workers in the hotel, presuming husband and wife team working there has been working as an engineer, the wife working in the front office. 560 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:54,000 They're both working full time. They have two kids or three kids. I don't know. 561 01:15:54,000 --> 01:16:04,000 But they qualify at 65% of AMI. They qualify for affordable housing. They can't afford to live in Napa. 562 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:15,000 I'm very supportive of the arrangement with the Methodist Church. I love what the Methodist Church is doing. I love the idea of housing, having housing downtown. 563 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:32,000 But the fee being paid to help that along is woefully inadequate. Let's not kid ourselves. There's no federal money coming our way. The chance of state funding coming in our way is just about zero. 564 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:47,000 And let's stop pretending. The NLU fee in our ordinance is so out of date and so unbelievably low it in some ways is almost laughable. 565 01:16:47,000 --> 01:17:03,000 That the county right now is going through an update of their housing fees. They're having a nexus study that's in process right now. That is going to be coming to the board of supervisors probably next month. 566 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:12,000 As I said in my letter to you, I would love to have this developer have some connection to that in some way. 567 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:23,000 The development agreement that you and your staff have negotiated with the developer, the developer is getting any number of concessions from you and appropriately so. 568 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:33,000 But a development agreement also allows you to ask for things from the developer. I think this one is really important. 569 01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:44,000 I think you need to ask for more. We need to we need to get that project across the goal line. The amount of money going to the project this before you. 570 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,000 And fortunately, in my opinion, isn't going to let it happen. Thank you. 571 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,000 Thank you, children. 572 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:56,000 First applause we've had during. 573 01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,000 Okay. I have no more cards, Mayor. 574 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:04,000 I was just going to thank everybody. That was for 23 speakers. 575 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:13,000 23 speakers, a little bit of clapping at the end, which is a little bit expected, but thank you for everyone in your. 576 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:23,000 So, there is an opportunity still for public comment. If you didn't submit a card. 577 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,000 Mr. Dunbar apparently did not submit a card. 578 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,000 So, I don't follow rules well. I'm sorry, Mayor. 579 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:36,000 John Dunbar, Napa, Mayor and Council and staff. I just want to share a little perspective. 580 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:42,000 I was on the town council on y'all for 18 years and mayor for 12. 581 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:46,000 We went through a similar process back in 2007 and eight. 582 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:54,000 Where we had a bold vision of finding an identity for the center of our small community. 583 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:58,000 It was the y'all feel community center project. 584 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,000 Some people said it was too expensive. It was too big. 585 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:06,000 It was too this. It was too that. It was too new. 586 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,000 It is now the heart and soul of y'all feel. 587 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:19,000 And residents come there even more than visitors, but it serves multiple purposes for the community. 588 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:23,000 And it's probably one of the best things that ever happened to y'all feel. 589 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:34,000 I see this as a similar project, giving downtown Napa a core identity, a real heart and soul for the city. 590 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:38,000 As the mayor recently reminded me in a public setting. 591 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:42,000 You have a Main Street here. We have a Main Street here. 592 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:46,000 This really helps identify where Main Street is. 593 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:51,000 And so I could very easily and strongly recommend you support this project. 594 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:52,000 Thanks. 595 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,000 Thanks, John. 596 01:19:53,000 --> 01:20:03,000 Greetings, Mayor Sedgley, and council members. 597 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,000 I'm Karen Werner with the Napa County Bicycle Coalition. 598 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:13,000 And I'm here tonight not to weigh in on the project as a whole, but just to draw your attention to some of the bicycle aspects of the project. 599 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,000 And reviewing the documents. 600 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:22,000 It was really unclear to me what the intentions are, particularly around bike parking. 601 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:36,000 I found in the environmental document that was submitted for the planning commission was that the corridor was going to be a bike corridor, but tonight in the presentation, it's just pedestrian pedestrian pedestrian. 602 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:44,000 So what I request is that that you ask for some clarity around the intentions there. 603 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:51,000 When it comes to bike parking in particular, we ask that you do not approve this project unless it includes Adam minimum. 604 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:58,000 The building standards, the state building standards for bike parking that will be mandatory come January 1st. 605 01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:05,000 Those standards will include bike parking requirements for residential, commercial, and hotels. 606 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:08,000 The state study this the last three years. 607 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:12,000 This is the result of their study from the opinion of the bike coalition. 608 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,000 It's rather conservative. 609 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,000 We would like to see them require much more. 610 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,000 But what I could find in the documents. 611 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:24,000 The one specific thing was that there would be 34 bike parking spaces for the residential. 612 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,000 That doesn't meet the state code. 613 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:32,000 So the state code if it's 78 units would require 39 long term parking spaces. 614 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:36,000 When they see spaces, I don't know if they're envisioning you or acts in some paint. 615 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,000 Or if they're actually talking about long term bike parking. 616 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,000 There's three types. 617 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,000 They're defined in the codes, but all of them are lockables. 618 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:48,000 So long term biking means storage lockers. 619 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:54,000 It means locked corals, et cetera, but a locking mechanism other than a bike lock. 620 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,000 So again, don't want to weigh in. 621 01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,000 You know, sticking within the bounds of our of our mission. 622 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:07,000 We just really ask that those minimum requirements that will be law at the state level come January 1st. 623 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,000 Be included in this project. 624 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:23,000 That is certainly the intention of the general plan and this project has the, you know, so much potential to get people out of cars to reduce vehicle miles traveled. 625 01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,000 Given where it's located, given the density. 626 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,000 But people will need to have access to bikes. 627 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:36,000 They will need to be able to park their bikes, bikes are becoming heavier and more expensive just like cars. 628 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,000 And people don't want to leave their bikes in short term bike parking. 629 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:44,000 They need long term secure bike parking, especially for those marks and civility bikes. 630 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,000 Thank you so much for your consideration. 631 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,000 Thanks, girl. 632 01:22:52,000 --> 01:23:00,000 Good evening mayor, council and staff and carabronzel lived on B street since 2003. 633 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:13,000 I too think this is in many ways a beautiful project, particularly appreciative of the exterior architecture of the hotel and the hotel lobby. 634 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,000 And I think a lot of thought has gone into those pastails. 635 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:21,000 And I'm excited to see the connectivity restored. 636 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,000 But I would I do have some concerns. 637 01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:29,000 I would like to echo some some comments made by those who came before me. 638 01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:36,000 We need to pause and think this through and get this right because this is a huge project for Napa. 639 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:42,000 And we need to make sure we have something that works for the community for the long term. 640 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:48,000 And for the tourists who will be able to use it as well as penciling out for the developer. 641 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:55,000 I agree completely that historical resources need to be front and center. 642 01:23:55,000 --> 01:24:01,000 This is right next to the National Register listed first national bank building. 643 01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:10,000 You know, and those the business owners there are pioneers who who believed in downtown Napa before anybody else did. 644 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:14,000 But the historic research needs to be protected the Gordon building. 645 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:20,000 It's also very close to other community treasures like the Opera House. 646 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:27,000 I also would like to see if there's an opportunity to work in more public plasma space. 647 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:37,000 It's what's there is not attractive, but it is heavily used and you know, I agree with what was said by some others about that. 648 01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:41,000 And by parking is essential. 649 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:48,000 We we're going to have the connectivity and we need to be able to use it for bikes as well as pedestrians. 650 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:54,000 And then I most of all want to echo what Mr. Chinaman said. 651 01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:58,000 It's great that we're having these donations. 652 01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,000 But we need to think about whether it's enough. 653 01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:13,000 And we need to think about actually putting housing in some of these things we build and really making sure we're giving people places to live. 654 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:21,000 And not just donating to a fund where they may or may not get built or it may take a long time to get built. 655 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:25,000 So thank you for listening to my comments. 656 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,000 Thanks, here. 657 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:39,000 Mayor council staff, my name's Brendan Molteck, my family's been in the valley here for 35 years. 658 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:44,000 I grew up here, graduated of NHI 2006. 659 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:47,000 I'm here in full support of the project. 660 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:52,000 I've seen the incredible transformation of downtown Napa in my life. 661 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,000 And I think this project completely adds to that. 662 01:25:55,000 --> 01:26:03,000 And it really kind of adds to a space that has been frankly like underutilized for a long time. 663 01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:08,000 I'm also particularly excited because I work for Union subcontractor. 664 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,000 That should this project move forward. 665 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:19,000 I'm going to be involved in being able to help create like a lasting positive impact community I grew up in. 666 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,000 So I really appreciate it. 667 01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:22,000 Thank you for your time. 668 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:33,000 Good evening, Mayor and council members. 669 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,000 Staff, my name's Chris George. 670 01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:42,000 And I guess I'm the reason that you're spending two say night here talking about this wonderful project. 671 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:48,000 We about three years ago embarked on what you see up on the screen. 672 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:59,000 I'm joined here with virtually every single member of the team that has produced this incredible drawings and work of this project we're about to embark on. 673 01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:04,000 I'm humbled and frankly honored that the rest of the trade is here to support this. 674 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:11,000 I sometimes it's easy to understand where you're going from to understand where you've been. 675 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:15,000 So I was born and raised in Martinez, California, not too far from here. 676 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:19,000 A five brothers and sisters, both my parents were school teachers. 677 01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:23,000 My father worked for 39 years at Richmond Unified School District. 678 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,000 His claim to fame that he was the principal for coach Carter. 679 01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,000 If you've seen that movie. 680 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,000 I'm the kid that flaunt his way out of high school. 681 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:35,000 My dad taught my brothers and sisters and I that hard work works. 682 01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:40,000 And so along the way I stumbled into the mortgage industry for the last 43 years that's all I've done. 683 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:47,000 We're the fifth largest lender in the United States. We employ about 4,400 employees and about three years ago. 684 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,000 I was introduced to this project. 685 01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:54,000 My fine friends over at 3vg. 686 01:27:54,000 --> 01:28:01,000 My project manager, Onicle Wassert Falls said this is something we should do and we came and visited. 687 01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:14,000 And we stuck and centered around the 9.11 memorial and it bought me back to my days at 9.11 in Washington, DC and watched the smoke below from the Pentagon. 688 01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:20,000 Some of the time I'll tell you how I almost stepped on Flight 77, which was the flight that went into the Pentagon. 689 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:24,000 But I have a lot of connection to 9.11. 690 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:29,000 As a result we started this process with what we wanted to accomplish in the end. 691 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:36,000 Before we put it in the paper or started drawing anything, we started talking about what we wanted this thing to be. 692 01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:41,000 What we wanted it to be was something extraordinary for ordinary folks. 693 01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:47,000 People from Belgium, people from Germany, people from the United Kingdom, people from 3rd Street, 5th Street, 694 01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:52,000 or a law school avenue or Oakville or Yachtville. 695 01:28:52,000 --> 01:29:02,000 We wanted people to come here and experience a family, a community, a place where you can exchange ideas, a place where you could call home. 696 01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,000 We think we've accomplished that. 697 01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,000 We spent a lot of time talking about the conservatory. 698 01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:13,000 We spent a lot of time talking about the lobby of the hotel in the rooftop bar. 699 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:20,000 We have spent, there have been statements that we've spent more than $10 million on this thing even beyond what we bought the land for. 700 01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:21,000 That's not right. 701 01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:27,000 It's actually $12,375,938. 702 01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:32,000 What we've spent so far of what we want to see this thing done. 703 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,000 I'll quickly end. 704 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:40,000 You guys said, or the planning department said, they wanted to move the entitlement from 18 months to 12 months. 705 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:44,000 You could move it from 18 months to 12 months to 12 days. 706 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:50,000 If you guys get me going on this thing and help me speed this process, I assure you is a lender. 707 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,000 I'm ready to go. 708 01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,000 I don't need to go borrow money. 709 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:55,000 That's all done. 710 01:29:55,000 --> 01:30:00,000 I'm ready to get rid of the coal's plaza tear down that... 711 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:10,000 All in build you a world-class location, not just a destination location but a location that both people from near and far we proud of. 712 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,000 Thanks for letting me hear. 713 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:15,000 Thank you, Mr. George. 714 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:29,000 All right. Seeing no one else approach the podium, I'll entertain a motion to close public testimony. 715 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,000 It's so moved. 716 01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:35,000 I'll second move by Councillor Paine or second by Councillor Nerviah's own favor. 717 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,000 Aye, opposed. 718 01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,000 Thank you so much. 719 01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:51,000 We anticipate a short break but I think I'm going to give the applicant an opportunity to review any comments that they want to respond to. 720 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,000 Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. 721 01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,000 Kevin Tee, I think you all know me, Napa. 722 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:59,000 Plasa 88, Napa High. 723 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:02,000 I don't want to respond to all the public comments. 724 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:06,000 We've got a team of consultants. We'll come up as you ask questions. 725 01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,000 Go over 80 of the details. You want to get into a lot of great comments. 726 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,000 I'd like to talk about any and all of them. 727 01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:19,000 I just want to touch upon three things that I think will help going into your break on some of the items that came up for that discussion. 728 01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:24,000 The first, you know, there's some talk about Dwight Murray Plaza, what to do in First Street. 729 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:29,000 Just want to remind, and I think most of you other than Chris was there. 730 01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:36,000 Part of the purchase agreement on Dwight Murray that we worked on for three years because of our HCD review. 731 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,000 Really contemplated all this. 732 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:45,000 Moving away from Dwight Murray and back into the connections and just reminding that that was part of that process. 733 01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:48,000 Happy to talk about it more, but that's been around for a while. 734 01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:52,000 There's some questions about the what gets shown on these plans. 735 01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:56,000 Just want to remind because it's a fairly complicated entitlement package. 736 01:31:56,000 --> 01:32:07,000 What the planned development does is replace the two pages of focus area guidelines in the downtown specific plan with I think we're up to 50 pages or so. 737 01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:17,000 Somewhere in that of very specific guidelines and the proposal in the DA is if the project fits those guidelines. 738 01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:26,000 Identically, right, not as it kind of like it, but identically, then it can be approved in the next 12 months at that staff level with the committee and working through. 739 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:30,000 So I just want to clarify, these are detailed guidelines. 740 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:36,000 I think even more detailed than even Stanley Ranch, what we had, those were pretty detailed. 741 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:41,000 And then finally, the other point just for discussion later is it is on on housing. 742 01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,000 It's always a challenging topic on projects. 743 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,000 So it's not the first time we talked about it. 744 01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:52,000 Just want to remind the council, this this project we always try to do is can we fund a meaningful project downtown. 745 01:32:52,000 --> 01:33:02,000 So a real project is going to happen and luckily I was working with with the first method of church and Dave and was able to connect them and to make a real project happen with a lot of units. 746 01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:06,000 And it's really about getting that seed money going, but you've got. 747 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,000 Molly knows way more about housing I do. 748 01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:12,000 We've got bourbon here, they can ask answer detailed question how that's going to work. 749 01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:17,000 We've got additional money going in the trust fund and the one I just want to remind is what what. 750 01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:23,000 The public adopted as part of housing is your 1% like TOT that goes the fund. 751 01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:26,000 So project like this is going to generate. 752 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:30,000 4 to 500,000 dollars every year that goes in the trust fund forever. 753 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,000 So what does that mean every four to five years. 754 01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,000 And whether the feet now is too low or not. 755 01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:44,000 The same amount of this feet every four or five years without a new project being proposed or developed gets thrown that trust fund forever. 756 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:48,000 So I just want to put the housing conversation we're happy talking about housing more. 757 01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,000 But just put it in context of. 758 01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:58,000 It does more than any other project I've worked on and we've been a lot over over the years and we're always trying to raise the bar. 759 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:02,000 And I just want to put that in context for the discussion we're going to have with with that. 760 01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,000 I think it's more productive get into question answers. 761 01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,000 We can have our consultants come up and get into any level of details. 762 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:13,000 And I want to thank the public great questions and comments tonight and thank you for. 763 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,000 Listening to us tonight. 764 01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:16,000 Thanks, Kevin. 765 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,000 Thanks everyone. 766 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:22,000 I'm going to call for quick break for council districts their legs. 767 01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:28,000 We will come reconvene at 815 on the dot. 768 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,000 And I always like to be in style. 769 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,000 Well, can any kind of a crowd. 770 01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,000 I call it a crowd. 771 01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:42,000 All right. 772 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,000 It's a big clerk. Are you by ready to reconvene? 773 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:52,000 I'm ready if you are. 774 01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,000 All right. I am ready. 775 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:57,000 Apple time is 815 that clock is a minute. 776 01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:58,000 It's pretty close. 777 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,000 So thanks everybody. 778 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:06,000 We will we finish through our public comment and our applicants. 779 01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:11,000 Presentation and so now we will bring it back to council for. 780 01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:18,000 Deliberation which could include questions and clarifying thoughts and comments and. 781 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:21,000 Whatever else comes out of council tonight. 782 01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,000 So council. 783 01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:28,000 We've heard we've read and we've read that's probably one of the biggest. 784 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:33,000 Longest council of packets that we've had quite some time. 785 01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:37,000 After you after you've been up here while you learn how to you learn how to get through it. 786 01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:41,000 Pull out the key points on the summaries and get to where you want to be. 787 01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:46,000 So let's let's go ahead and see how we going to want to kick this off. 788 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:51,000 First maybe any clarifying questions or comments we can go right there. 789 01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,000 So you want me to call on you or do you want to light your light up. 790 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:59,000 I was waiting to press my button. 791 01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,000 I was hoping somebody else would press their button first. 792 01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:04,000 I just actually only have a few questions. 793 01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:08,000 First of all, I have to show everybody this is just part of the packet for this item. 794 01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:09,000 I didn't even print at all. 795 01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,000 But I did read it all. 796 01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:15,000 So thank you to Michael and writer for stepping in at the last minute for Ricky. 797 01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:16,000 That's very appreciated. 798 01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:19,000 Thank you Molly for everything you've done to get us to this point. 799 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:23,000 I only have a few questions which is kind of surprising for all of this. 800 01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:33,000 But one of the questions I had in article six talking about public benefit obligations talking about the plaza. 801 01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:40,000 There's a line in here that says the developer can retain limited rights to exclusively occupy the new plaza at certain times. 802 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:47,000 Related to the project use consistent with the DMP and then later in the exhibits it clarifies that it's up to six times per year. 803 01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:50,000 I'm just curious what are some examples. 804 01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:57,000 What is the situation in which we don't have access to that public space that they would have exclusive use. 805 01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:04,000 I'm not sure if the development team wants to answer where they envision the types of private events that might occur. 806 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:10,000 But there will be, especially in the Paseo piece, some connection into the hotels. 807 01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:14,000 Maybe there would be something a party a tasting dinner that might spill out. 808 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:18,000 And to that, I don't know if you have any more specifics to what is envisioned for that site. 809 01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:22,000 Kevin T. again, we don't have like a specific program to talk to you about it. 810 01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:36,000 It was more or less whether it's maybe there's a special wedding or some big event a couple times a year that we would come to the city and say, can we close, close it down for this big function that's happening. 811 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:49,000 That day or for these hours there's not sort of a regular program type thing, maybe we coordinate with like the table event or something like that that it's a private event that may occur. 812 01:37:49,000 --> 01:38:01,000 So it's not a program where we're thinking about and we kind of just said there might be six and we would work with the city on on doing that sort of program. 813 01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:09,000 Okay, thank you and that's kind of kind of what I was getting at is that is that something that we're going to hear more about is like something you're going to work with us on to kind of clarify what that uses. 814 01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:19,000 Yeah, we would we would work in the process with something comes up apply to the city's here, this is when we want to do it here is what the event is with playing a time for feedback. 815 01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:20,000 Perfect, thank you. 816 01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:40,000 And then this is more for staff looking at exhibit e on page e5 talks about projects specific parking and at the very end by very bottom of that page it says, if the city requests that the project provide valley parking for non hotel visitors. 817 01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:53,000 Arriving at the new drop off an additional 30 stalls should be reserved in the Pearl Street Garage for such non project valley operations and this isn't really a question I just want to clarify my expectation and hopefully get clarification from other council members. 818 01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:59,000 But my expectation is that anybody who wants to validate their car whether their hotel guests or not would be able to. 819 01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:08,000 And maybe it's paid you know the developer can figure out that aspect of it, but I just want to clarify that that is something that I would expect. 820 01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:19,000 Sure, we the like the existing agreement with the archer for example does not allow for them to valet anybody but hotel guests so if that is the desire of the council as we are negotiating the parking agreement. 821 01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:29,000 Whether we add the 30 more spaces you know and peak times or what not that's something that we can look at that that the intent of this council if that has had not had yes is that. 822 01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:34,000 Valet occurs from more than just hotel guests regularly. Okay. Great. Thank you. 823 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:46,000 And then my third and last question has to do with the development impact field list so on we're looking at building to the residential side. 824 01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:58,000 It has listed as the affordable housing impact fee it says residential multi family and I see on the description of fees that there's also a condominium affordable housing impact fee. 825 01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:08,000 And just kind of confused why we did the residential multi family, which is four dollars and five cents versus the condo rate, which is four dollars and 75 cents. 826 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:12,000 And maybe this is just something that gets clarified later, but I want to draw your attention to that. 827 01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:22,000 Sure. No, I appreciate that and I was sitting here doing math as well and the the charts and exhibit effort intended to be illustrative. 828 01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:31,000 We weren't necessarily we were going off of examples of estimated square footage provided by the developer we weren't walking these particular fees into place. 829 01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:47,000 So I do see that we did capture the four dollar and five cent rate rather than four dollars and 75 cent rate regardless all of the numbers in the illustrative examples only add up to one million six hundred and ninety six thousand dollars when the proposed in Lewis two million thirty seven thousand dollars. 830 01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:55,000 Plus some additional numbers so I don't I think that was just an error on staff's part in terms of two different purposes. 831 01:40:55,000 --> 01:41:05,000 The actual purpose that we calculated be a new fee and then the illustrative purpose that we just didn't catch so we can correct that when we bring back the final final documents and the exhibit. 832 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,000 Okay, great. Thank you. 833 01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:10,000 And then do you want me to go to comments or you want to just do questions first. 834 01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:20,000 I'll let's go around the questions if they're I don't anticipate like you you very good questions and always concise and so we'll go now to councilmember nirvana. 835 01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:30,000 Thank you mayor and thank you staff for others work and everybody came here a couple questions and this might be for the applicant. 836 01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:42,000 And the developer maintenance obligation so looking at exhibit exhibit G touch and 12 so it talks about me and I bring this up because the psal and branch rate. 837 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:52,000 Corros such a big part of this project I just want to clarify the maintenance obligations of the public right away so there's part this is the developer. 838 01:41:52,000 --> 01:42:01,000 If the developer fails to repair and also says green versus city within 60 days of the notice I just want to make sure. 839 01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:13,000 When the city would be improving the sites versus developer because I know in the past especially 9 to 11 when the lights have gone out there's trash or garbage. 840 01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:17,000 You know we have city that that works and that but I just want to to what extent. 841 01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:25,000 The developers are going to be involved in maintaining this space versus when the city steps in city staff goes into space. 842 01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:30,000 I'll take that one first and. 843 01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:37,000 Staff can embellish so the idea here is right this is highly improved space next to. 844 01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:46,000 Great new hotel so that the developer will take on the maintenance responsibility of it to maintain it at a high high level and I think. 845 01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:56,000 For the life of the project and I think that the language you're referring there if it's later on if the developers not doing it you give us notice we don't cure it the city could step in and say. 846 01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:14,000 We're going to fix this now and then the developer pays for it obviously we don't expect that to ever happen but the the concept is we're not going to just build this really high in space and I'll say city it's your your problem to keep it at the standard that we all agree to build it to developers going to keep doing that. 847 01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,000 Thank you. 848 01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:24,000 The next one is there's some comments about funding a project ready downtown. 849 01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:29,000 There's we talked about the first method is church being part of that. 850 01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:35,000 I know there's a time limit on that what happens if they're not able to build within a certain time. 851 01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:43,000 I just want to make sure that we're clear what the funds what what happens if funds and how we intend to use that in case the project doesn't move forward. 852 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:46,000 I do mean the hotel developer bill. 853 01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:58,000 There is always the option so the idea is is that funds will revert to the project if the first method is project method is church project. 854 01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:07,000 We always have the opportunity to bring them back into our affordable housing fund if they do not proceed with construction or something what a fall apart. 855 01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:14,000 With that project and there's also the opportunity if say the hotel development was moving more quickly. 856 01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:25,000 Then the affordable housing project was we could also place those funds in an escrow account to be drawn down when the method is church was ready. 857 01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:34,000 In this case we're expecting that the hotel will start construction and that's be ready to pay the fee maybe before the developers ready to start construction of the housing project. 858 01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:45,000 However one of the things that works like that type of timing in terms of dedicating to a specific project is it actually gives a burbank now and enforceable commitment via RDA. 859 01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:57,000 For them to say we have this $2 million already committed to us and that is what scores you points when there are state and federal applications is a local investment of sorts. 860 01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:04,000 If the city were to take the funds it would be collected at the end. 861 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,720 Time of building permit issuance. Go into our trust fund. We would do a request for proposal. All projects 862 01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:11,520 would compete for it. And then we would award based on that. So it's been enforceable commitment faster 863 01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:18,720 for Burbank, or quickly and allows them to use it to their advantage as they're applying for other 864 01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:23,240 funding sources or seeking tax credits to develop the affordable housing. 865 01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:28,720 Thank you. I have full faith in Burbank and First Miss Methodist. I move forward with the project. 866 01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:39,640 I just kind of want to clarify, you know, how that money is going to be used. And so I, all that questions I have for now. Thank you. 867 01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:46,920 Council member Dina Thalley. Thank you. I also had questions about the use of public space beyond the six-time 868 01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:53,480 of peers. Who would manage if other groups wanted to use it? Is that a possibility as far as programming that area 869 01:45:53,480 --> 01:45:57,000 with the lack of space downtown for community groups to use? 870 01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:02,040 Yes. So we have a process that runs jointly through planning in the Parks and Recreation Department for any time 871 01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:10,920 anyone wants to use a public space. Whether it be to close it to the public to have a rally of some sort 872 01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:15,960 or have like music or an event. So that process would apply for any of the public spaces. 873 01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:21,160 Because there are adjacent buildings nearby. We would definitely check in to make sure it doesn't interfere with some of 874 01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:26,440 the activities going on, you know, in the commercial space and whatnot. But we're used to doing that with when people 875 01:46:26,440 --> 01:46:32,040 want to use a sidewalk in front of the uptown theater or people want to use Veterans Park, the Oxbow Commons etc. 876 01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:36,520 And there's no different facts. I saw that it was looking for them to manage the space. I thought that was referenced 877 01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:42,040 or did I misread that hotel was managing this space in some way. So wouldn't change anything for 878 01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:44,360 public use of the space? It'd be the same process. 879 01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:49,000 Yeah, the the sale might be a little, I can we can check the language on that and just give me a moment 880 01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:52,840 and maybe Kevin knows off the top of the head. Definitely the Brown Street space will still be maintained 881 01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:58,200 as public space by the city. It's the Paseo that's a little, it will still be maintained for maintenance purposes 882 01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:02,760 by the hotel developer but it remains public space on Brown Street so the city has control over it. 883 01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:06,040 The Paseo might be a little bit different. It's through an easement process. 884 01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:10,920 Yeah, there's opportunity in the Paseo to have this public vents but we want to make sure there's a little more of a 885 01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:15,880 check-in just with, you know, the dynamic around there. But again, the opportunities there. 886 01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:22,120 So just to reclareify the space where the stage area is that would be the similar process already, but the 887 01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:28,600 Paseo's there. And we should just quite when we say the Paseo, we mean the walk. The that is between the two buildings 888 01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:32,680 that connects first street, but yes, the Brown Street remains public space and is a little bit more 889 01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:39,240 flexible for the city to manage. And then my other question is any additional plans to mitigate 890 01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:45,400 disruptions to our nearby businesses. We've done so much to downtown. So anything you can speak to during 891 01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:51,960 construction. Yeah, let me, business is usual down here. Thank you. Let me bring up Cameron. 892 01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:55,320 Can you, because you've been having all those conversations with downtown businesses? 893 01:47:57,320 --> 01:48:03,720 Sure. Thank you, Council. I think if the question, you know, part of what we do is just outreach, 894 01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:10,200 community outreach, fielding concerns, putting them into our plans and doing that swiftly and effectively. 895 01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:16,760 I think there's two kind of categories you can throw this in. We have our neighbors that 896 01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:22,120 are going to be impacted by some of our interim construction conditions. We want to leave 897 01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:27,880 much of their infrastructure in place for as long as possible. We are at the forefront of a lot of 898 01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:34,040 this planning. You know, there's certain districts like in the Napa Sanitation that will inform our 899 01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:39,960 plans even further, so there's some things that are unforeseen, but we've built partnerships with everyone around us. 900 01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:46,520 So we can pick up the phone and dial as soon as we find that new information. I think, you know, 901 01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:52,200 just as we are building infrastructure and restoring the grid, we find that, you know, pedestrian 902 01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:57,240 pathways are very important during construction. They're just as important. That's why we're committed to 903 01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:04,040 protecting first street for the entirety of that construction period with the exception of the course 904 01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:11,560 when we're pouring new sidewalk and only necessary closures. Similar conditions can be said for 905 01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:15,800 all four corners of our project. But again, I think that the biggest thing and what is 906 01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:22,920 paramount is just communication. So we're making ourselves available. Thank you. 907 01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:28,440 I would also, if I could just add to that as well, the city staff has been participating in discussions, 908 01:49:28,440 --> 01:49:33,960 particularly with Elegria. There are a lot of questions we do not have answers to right now. This is a 909 01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:40,120 conceptual development agreement. There are a lot of details that will come later. There is a 910 01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:45,560 submitted demolition permit still going through the process back and forth with the developer on 911 01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:54,840 that. So we have committed to keeping, continuing working with Elegria and the owner of the building 912 01:49:54,840 --> 01:50:01,720 landmarks about what will happen to them and around them as this is going on. I do know the developer 913 01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:07,000 has committed to try to make sure that the patio is maintained for as long as it can, the 914 01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:11,720 Elegria patio is maintained for as long as it can and construction has sort of been around it. 915 01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:15,720 I would also say that we've met several times with downtown Napa Association and I've talked on the 916 01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:21,160 phone with Jerry Hansen from the Chamber of Commerce and just really talked about ways that we can 917 01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:24,680 make sure that we're communicating with the businesses downtown. The impacts that construction might 918 01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:29,800 have at various stages throughout the process so that we're being transparent about it. We're working 919 01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:34,120 with the developer and we're all on the same page of what the impacts might be or will be. 920 01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:40,280 And if I could add to that, it's like to redirect the council to what what occurred with the 921 01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:45,160 archer hotel being constructed. It's in closer proximity to the Gordon building and also there's 922 01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:50,120 the preservation of the portion of marils. Those were conditioned in some mitigations that 923 01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:55,160 our public worship department looks at with construction the construction division. So we would work with 924 01:50:55,160 --> 01:51:00,760 this team the same way we did there and utilize the same measures whereby we kept first street open as 925 01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:05,080 best be could. If you recall that during that time there was you know a little bit of little dirt. 926 01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:12,120 But we would use our same measures with this project and those conditions would be applied upon 927 01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:17,960 the designer view permits for each of the buildings. So we've got some experience at that and 928 01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:22,920 working with the applicant team will do our best also work with the neighboring businesses to keep 929 01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:27,240 them from being interrupted. 930 01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:35,480 Thank you. Go from our painter. As everyone else said thank you so much for all of the 931 01:51:35,480 --> 01:51:43,160 information in the 23 attachments and hundreds of pages. But and several of my questions were asked but 932 01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:48,360 I just wanted to follow up on a couple of things you know in no particular order first the dedicated drop 933 01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:54,920 off zone. I think it's a great addition not just for this project but for downtown as a whole. I see 934 01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:59,800 people using right share services and coming in and being dropped to go to restaurants to shows 935 01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:06,920 to all kinds of things and I'm assuming that that is the intention if you're using right share. So I would also 936 01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:12,840 support you know taking a look at some VLA services for non hotel guests and you already spoke to that. 937 01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:20,200 I just want to reiterate that you know similarly to the questions on how we can move faster how we 938 01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:25,320 can do more how we can keep coordinating. This is more of a comment than anything unless the 939 01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:30,840 applicant wants to add anything and that is is there anything else that you see on your list right now 940 01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:39,000 that we can discuss tonight that would help this project move faster in terms of coordination that council 941 01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:47,560 could help and direct staff anything else. It's been going great so far but I think just you know 942 01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:53,880 make sure we have open communication check-ins which we're already doing but throughout the process. 943 01:52:53,880 --> 01:53:00,840 This is a big important process that needs to go smoothly. It may not be the typical way we see projects go 944 01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:07,800 because of the the with the overwhelming support downtown also came the overwhelming get it done fast so we're 945 01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:13,400 not down in business. So that means it's really working together in a sequencing order that may not 946 01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:19,000 be the typical way but make sure we have those check-ins I think with the process right through the 947 01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:25,480 manager's office it's built to go that way but just having the openness and flexibility to stay on it and 948 01:53:25,480 --> 01:53:35,160 solve problems quickly. Yeah I think being a you know solutions based 949 01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:42,040 mentality on this project you know we there's a lot of challenges that come up with any 950 01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:48,840 but permitting plan check process coming to the table with solutions as opposed to maybe just 951 01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:56,280 policy always expedites kind of resolving matters typically plan reviews are within 30 day 952 01:53:56,280 --> 01:54:03,160 cycles a lot of the time the more time you a lot to that cycle you'll use every bit of it so limiting 953 01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:08,760 some of those plan review cycles would be helpful as well as potentially if they're a third 954 01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:16,120 party plan check is utilized then maybe doing a flat rate and limiting the time for for their 955 01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:21,880 review as well. Okay yeah well I'm sure that the communication is going to continue so I just wanted to 956 01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:27,880 hear that and then the planning commission had a couple of recommendations you know I certainly heard 957 01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:33,720 tonight that not only 18 months going to from 18 to 12 months is fine but you know go even less and 958 01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:40,760 I really appreciate that for the shortened time line but I think it would be important for us as council 959 01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:47,480 to get some kind of a report back after maybe six months so that we can make sure this is moving and we 960 01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:52,520 can just have a quick opportunity for a check-in is that possible that I mean it would be an 961 01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:59,720 administrative sort of thing but just so that you know we can continue to keep working together 962 01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:04,840 and get those reports you know I'm thinking six months from the time we have our final 963 01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:12,520 ordinance approvals we can certainly add that to our list just got to all in about six and then and then 964 01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:17,240 last we've got actually two other questions on the ad hoc committee that was recommended by planning 965 01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:24,280 commissions how would that be memorialized is that just sort of a recommendation do we need to do anything 966 01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:31,000 about that tonight? I'm going to let right our answer that question. Just one moment while I upload 967 01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:36,280 up but it is reflected in one of the ordinances that that planning commission voice interest in creating 968 01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:41,400 an ad hoc committee including one design professional and one non-design professional from planning commission 969 01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:47,240 appointed by city manager during the night one of the ordinance. Okay I missed that piece. 970 01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:52,920 The commission has been modified since commission and then we did hear from the bike coalition about 971 01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:59,720 how they want to see the project meet what is coming for twenty twenty six mandatory bike standards you know 972 01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:06,520 what's coming is harder for us to sort of put our arms around right now but I want to just understand 973 01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:13,960 how we can incorporate that intention as the project moves towards a design review. I don't know that 974 01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:19,640 we can apply a code this thought in effect yet but I believe the applicant team is more than willing to 975 01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:26,600 entertain more more bike racks maybe did the same number that that would be applicable but the language is what 976 01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:33,080 we're looking at and not a condition requiring it to meet twenty twenty six as code but just by 977 01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:38,440 their acceptance of of submitting I believe the number would be thirty seven or thirty eight 978 01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:45,720 parking of bikes racks thirty nine thirty nine okay so we could more a lot to finish yes yeah I mean I 979 01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:50,280 think the notion is eight and it is important to look at local facilities for bikes so if that can 980 01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:54,600 be incorporated into design that would be great those are my questions right now 981 01:56:55,560 --> 01:57:02,440 and then just to follow up it and related to the ad hoc committee it's reflected in attachment 982 01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:13,960 two just the ordinance for the PD overlay perfect thank you yeah I didn't see that either I saw it 983 01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:20,360 in the review of the planning commission minutes I read it there but thanks for being right on top of 984 01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:25,400 that right or you know when we started out on this council and there was discussion about 985 01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:31,080 documentary the big discussion around documentary Plaza and I was was really concerned about losing 986 01:57:31,080 --> 01:57:35,800 public space but then when this concept came forward well it's we're going to we're just going to maybe 987 01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:42,120 move it a little bit more than exchange and so I assume that the Brown Street pedestrian corridor in the 988 01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:50,520 Paseo would be public space and there would be some involvement of city maintenance of those properties 989 01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:56,280 because they are basically it's park right I think we're it'll eventually be park space so I think the 990 01:57:56,280 --> 01:58:01,320 private use of it or reserveing of it would go through the normal process as Molly said as a as a 991 01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:08,600 use permit for that space but it's fifty four thousand square feet I think is what the end of public 992 01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:17,160 space isn't so that has to be the Paseo also right it's not just Brown Street crack okay and so 993 01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:24,680 yeah so that's if if if we group because we I think in the past right Marie Plaza was even you know used for 994 01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:33,960 certain kind of quasi private events on but Marie Plaza in the past so so that was my expectation on those 995 01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:40,840 use permit square footage of that the drop off zone currently it's in front of the old clock tower 996 01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:45,800 right that's the pull out that's the drop out drop off zone for downtown and is that staying 997 01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:54,840 or will that curb line be straightened out there so that that line Mr. Mayor is getting straight now one 998 01:58:54,840 --> 01:59:00,040 of the desires and the working through this process is there's just too much traffic on for a street 999 01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:05,240 plugging up and right our design team getting details but the idea is that goes away to make 1000 01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:10,760 ubers make hotel visitors make it up go over to Main Street drop off there and start their adventure 1001 01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:16,760 downtown there and not clogged up first street so it's too and Tim I don't think that's changed 1002 01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:23,320 right that we're still straightening that out not having to drop off there to force folks over to the 1003 01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:29,800 area on Main Street and it's a delivery drop off spot now to the one currently there and to add to 1004 01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:35,880 that it's not a typical for some of those right share apps to program drop off locations happens every 1005 01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:43,160 year during bottle rock there's select locations throughout downtown where it'll direct drivers to 1006 01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:54,040 drop off passengers so it's it's it's common and actually utilize within the city of Napa thank you 1007 01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:59,160 councilmember bias thank you I'm a couple questions just follow up some previous comments 1008 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:08,240 So the design review, we talked about adding that with the Plan Commission, which I support, I think that's 1009 02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:14,640 a good idea. How will we handle any public feedback during the process? I mean, it's just emailing 1010 02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:19,840 us, hey, checking houses going, maybe at the 6th month checking, that's a good idea too. Is there 1011 02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:24,080 any way to handle any public feedback? I know there's going to get an interest throughout the process, 1012 02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:32,320 if somebody says, you know, what's the design, whatever that may be? Sure. You know, and one of 1013 02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:37,040 the city attorneys involved in our city attorney or the attorney's involved in, can jump on on this 1014 02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:40,320 two, but one of the conversations we've been having is of the ad hoc committee was a Brown Act 1015 02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:45,840 committee, or not, and we think that probably one of the best ways to handle it, regardless of whether or not we 1016 02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:52,480 have to, is to have a public meeting where the committee members can advise, dislike a committee and 1017 02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:56,240 members, can advise the city manager, but we also notice it for the public to come in comment, 1018 02:00:56,240 --> 02:01:01,440 as well, it will be a little bit simpler of a process than posting a full meeting agenda like we 1019 02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:07,200 would for the council, or the Planning Commission, but just making sure that we follow the Brown 1020 02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:12,000 Act even if we're not required to, by the make up of the committee, just makes it cleaner all around, 1021 02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:18,320 and then the public has the opportunity to weigh in, if they'd like to. Thank you. 1022 02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:20,960 Alex, Mayor Lerals. 1023 02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:29,440 Didn't even press my button that time. Okay. Well, I apologize for reading from my notes on this. 1024 02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:35,600 It's just too much to cover, and I don't want to miss anything. So first and foremost, I think the proposed 1025 02:01:35,600 --> 02:01:39,520 development agreement is consistent with the general plan and the downtown and the specific plan. 1026 02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:44,720 The project would create a dynamic and sustainable urban core. It's everything that we dreamed about. 1027 02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:50,960 It will economically speaking, it'll increase tax revenue, create jobs, stimulate local spending, 1028 02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:57,040 and attract investment. It's whatever city dreams of, and right now in a soft and somewhat uncertain 1029 02:01:57,040 --> 02:02:02,320 economy, I am really grateful that we have this opportunity and a desire to invest in our city. 1030 02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:10,320 Having a vibrant downtown, I think has become a bit of a buzzword, but this kind of a project will truly 1031 02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:15,360 enhance downtown vibrancy in the pedestrian experience. There's been a lot of talk during 1032 02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:20,320 public comment about the loss of Dwight Murray Plaza and what that means to make this kind of a swap. 1033 02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:26,960 I don't believe that a pit and a ground with a weird rock formation should be the center of our downtown. 1034 02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:33,040 What it really takes to create that kind of a gathering place is a well designed public area for residents 1035 02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:38,720 and visitors that foster community interaction, it hosts events and it creates a sense of place. 1036 02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:43,360 And that's what I envision looking at the renderings of the public space. I think about how our 1037 02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:49,280 lighted art walk is going to look and how more people will walk through the area. It's not going to be awkward. 1038 02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:52,560 It's going to be dynamic and I think that's what our downtown core deserves. 1039 02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:59,520 We also deserve to have a beautiful downtown. I think that's what I appreciate the most from this proposal. 1040 02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:04,960 It is thoughtfully designed the renderings that we've seen and we didn't even get to see them all tonight, 1041 02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:11,040 but there's more in the packet. There are architecturally stunning. I think it will define our modern 1042 02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:16,720 architectural landscape in downtown Napa and I think the incorporation of public art and landscaping adds to 1043 02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:21,600 that as well. I do support the planning commissions proposal of creating an ad hoc committee to help 1044 02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:28,480 advise on design issues. I think that's a great idea. I also wanted to comment that I really appreciate the 1045 02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:32,560 incorporation of the Miglia Vaca building into the design. I thought that was really cool. 1046 02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:38,960 When that building was torn down, a local architect and former city planning commissioner, Jay Golik, 1047 02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:43,360 took some of those sandstone blocks from the building and he used them to build his home 1048 02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:50,640 up on red. A pretty far-up red would road. Unfortunately it burned down in the 2017 fires, but I know 1049 02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:55,680 those stones are still there and it might be really cool to try and incorporate them into this project. 1050 02:03:55,680 --> 02:04:01,040 I asked Jay about it and he knows that your question is coming if that's something that you 1051 02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:05,760 was interested in doing, but I think that would be a really cool incorporation of history into the project. 1052 02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:14,240 All of the gushing aside, I do have some concerns about the project. Generally speaking at this point, 1053 02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:19,680 we've heard all the public comment, I do support the project, but I do have some things that I think we should 1054 02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:24,720 talk about and potentially ask for adjustments or maybe even conditions of approval. 1055 02:04:25,920 --> 02:04:32,480 I've tried to organize them into three main categories, so parking, TOT share and housing. 1056 02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:38,880 So parking first and it's somewhat minor, but I am concerned about whether all of the parking 1057 02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:45,200 needs can be accommodated. I think this concern is mostly alleviated by the downtown drop-off area, 1058 02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:50,080 which I do think is brilliant. Not only is it valuable to the people who will stay at the hotel, 1059 02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:55,440 but I think it helps us reduce traffic congestion by getting people off of first straight and having one 1060 02:04:55,440 --> 02:05:01,920 single well-marked location for ride sharing. I've seen these drop-offs and use them when I visit other cities 1061 02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:08,480 and it really helps the whole ride share experience. I think it creates clear expectations for riders and drivers. 1062 02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:14,560 It makes everything just more consistent and predictable. And I think having that kind of central drop-off could 1063 02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:19,040 also potentially reduce the demand for downtown parking, which makes me feel better about the 1064 02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:25,840 parking needs associated with the project. I do wonder about the volume of ride share drop-offs, 1065 02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:29,920 what that's going to be and whether we can really, this is really going to be able to accommodate that, 1066 02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:34,400 but I think at this point we just, we don't know what we don't know, so we'll have to keep an eye on that, 1067 02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:38,880 but I think that that's going to be a really exciting change downtown just that drop-off area. 1068 02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:44,720 I do also support the NAPA bike coalitions request that we meet the new state standards for bike parking. 1069 02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:50,240 It sounds like that's not going to be an issue. I would also maybe throw in, let's throw in a bike rack 1070 02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:54,560 in the ballet area so that it just makes it easier for people to come downtown on their bikes. 1071 02:05:55,680 --> 02:06:05,920 So that was it for parking for the TOT share. There is, I think a sense of urgency for all of us, 1072 02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:08,720 for the city and the developer to get the project done as quickly as possible. 1073 02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:15,440 Prolong construction empty businesses that's going to have the opposite effect to our economy of what we want. 1074 02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:20,080 I think it's in our best interest that the project be completed when you say it's going to be completed. 1075 02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:27,120 I did notice on that last slide, it said 2027, I don't know if that's really when you expect to be done, 1076 02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:32,800 or if maybe it'd be a little bit more realistic to say 2028, but that's that is something for you guys to 1077 02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:40,880 figure out. I think the way that it's currently worded, the TOT share will start when they get their 1078 02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:46,960 certificate of occupancy and will end 10 years after that. There's suggesting they're going to be done in 1079 02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:53,680 27, maybe 2028. I'm going to suggest that we add, as a condition for approval, that the TOT share 1080 02:06:53,680 --> 02:06:59,920 continues for 10 years from the date of the first TOT payment, which is what it says now, or that the 1081 02:06:59,920 --> 02:07:08,080 TOT share period ends by 2038, whichever comes first. So the idea is that this would incentivize 1082 02:07:08,080 --> 02:07:12,640 the developer to open, when they say they're going to open, it would help avoid the situation that we don't 1083 02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:17,520 want, which is a big empty downtown, perhaps a big construction site with no end in sight. 1084 02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:25,360 There are a lot of potential reasons why the project could be delayed if there are concerns about the 1085 02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:30,320 timeline being held up because of the city's responsiveness and improving permits and things like that, 1086 02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:36,640 we could include language that the no later than date of 2038 could be adjusted if both the city 1087 02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:44,080 and the developer agree to that. I think even if the project is delayed and the 10 year TOT share becomes 1088 02:07:44,080 --> 02:07:48,640 an 8 year TOT share, for example, I think it's still likely that the developer is going to hit 1089 02:07:48,640 --> 02:07:55,200 33 million dollar reimbursement cap, but this at least provides us some protection for us as a 1090 02:07:55,200 --> 02:08:00,400 city that this project happens in a timely manner. And I know that that's the developer's goal too, 1091 02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:04,960 but we have entitled hotel projects all over town that are sitting there, as I was mentioned earlier 1092 02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:09,600 today, and there's not a lot we can do about it. I think if we approve this project tonight, without this 1093 02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:13,840 condition approval, there's nothing to guarantee that the project will happen as quickly as we'd all 1094 02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:19,440 like to see it happen. So the DA gives them 10 years to make it happen, let's try to incentivize everyone 1095 02:08:19,440 --> 02:08:25,600 to stay on target and get it done. So that was one thing, and then finally housing, and probably the most 1096 02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:33,120 serious concern that I have of the three, I am concerned about the 78 residential condominium units. These units 1097 02:08:33,120 --> 02:08:39,200 can be occupied by an owner, but they're also available for short-term rentals. And when housing units 1098 02:08:39,200 --> 02:08:44,880 can bypass our vacation rental ordinance and effectively act like a hotel room without any limitation 1099 02:08:44,880 --> 02:08:49,600 on the number of units that can be rented out, or any limitation on the number of days, a unit can be 1100 02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:54,800 rented out. That's not the kind of housing that we need a Napa. That's not designed for permanent residents. 1101 02:08:55,200 --> 02:09:01,440 I think this kind of model incentivizes investment and not residency. And we have a long list of people 1102 02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:06,640 who've been waiting patiently to get a vacation rental permit. We've said no to them, but tonight the 1103 02:09:06,640 --> 02:09:11,440 way this is drafted, we'd be effectively more than doubling the amount of vacation rentals that we 1104 02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:18,000 have on the market. My biggest concern with this situation is that a fractional ownership company like 1105 02:09:18,000 --> 02:09:23,920 Picasso or a real estate investment trust is going to buy up these condos and they're going to become 1106 02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:29,520 hotel rooms in that homes. We have struggled for years to try and limit the impacts of short-term 1107 02:09:29,520 --> 02:09:34,240 rentals on our housing market. I feel like it's appropriate to try and put some guardrails on this part 1108 02:09:34,240 --> 02:09:39,600 of the project. There's also nothing that I'm aware of that I saw in the documents that would prohibit 1109 02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:45,040 the developer from simply not selling the condos and just renting them out on a short-term rental market. 1110 02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:52,640 And then we have, in effect, another 70 hotel rooms. Another issue with this, I kind of brought it up earlier, 1111 02:09:52,640 --> 02:10:00,400 but the affordable housing impact fee. For a condo, it's $4.75 square foot. I mentioned earlier, 1112 02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:05,680 we're calculating it at 405. It sounds like that's not what we're really doing for a hotel. 1113 02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:11,120 It's $6 a square foot. So if we're really talking about what is, in effect, a hotel room, 1114 02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:16,400 I think they should be paying the higher impact fee that a hotel would be paying or at least that difference 1115 02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:23,360 between the two. So if you look at the impact fee list, all of the impact fees that we charge developers are 1116 02:10:23,360 --> 02:10:29,920 higher for hotel space that makes sense. The impact is higher. So I had a few ideas on how to limit 1117 02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:34,800 the impact on our housing market. I would admit that they are not all good. The first is probably the 1118 02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:39,520 worst option. I think it's kind of a nuclear option that might kill a whole project, but we could in theory 1119 02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:44,240 restrict the number of condos that could be rented out of short-term rentals, or we could 1120 02:10:44,240 --> 02:10:49,920 restrict the number of nights that anyone condo could be rented out. I think that would probably 1121 02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:55,360 significantly affect the economics of the project overall. It's within our ability to do that, 1122 02:10:55,360 --> 02:11:00,240 but I would want to hear more from the developer about whether or not that's feasible. And then the 1123 02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:06,640 second idea I had was that we could specifically limit who can own a condo, similar to what the California 1124 02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:13,360 tenant protection act does. You could specify that, for example, a real estate investment trust can't own a condo 1125 02:11:13,360 --> 02:11:18,480 that it basically has to be owned by an individual or a family or a trust or entity that is primarily 1126 02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:24,080 owned by an individual or a family. That wouldn't keep out companies like Picasso that have the 1127 02:11:24,080 --> 02:11:29,360 fractional ownership models. I don't know if we could even say specifically say that fractional ownership 1128 02:11:29,360 --> 02:11:35,520 is prohibited. I think this whole area is fraught with legal complications, so this may not be a 1129 02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:42,560 possible solution that we can do a lot about, but that was one option I had. The last option is to 1130 02:11:42,560 --> 02:11:46,560 do nothing and let it stand the way it's presented. I think we've said for years that we want 1131 02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:52,160 residential mixed use downtown, maybe this is the only way that that works economically right now 1132 02:11:52,160 --> 02:11:56,160 and it's going to have to be okay because we're going to get a huge economic boost to the downtown, 1133 02:11:56,160 --> 02:12:02,000 our TOT, one percent of which goes into our affordable housing fund, and maybe the developer 1134 02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:07,920 acknowledges that there are impacts to our community from the 78 units that are more like a hotel than a condo. 1135 02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:14,240 And developer makes adjustments to what they're contributing towards these impacts. I think it would 1136 02:12:14,240 --> 02:12:18,880 not be unreasonable to ask the developer to increase their affordable housing feed to add the 1137 02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:24,480 difference of what they would pay for a hotel, which is $6 a square foot instead of what they're paying 1138 02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:30,480 for condos given the circumstances. According to my math, that's an additional approximately 234,000. 1139 02:12:30,480 --> 02:12:38,320 I might be a little off on that, but I think it's about that amount. Those are my main three concerns, 1140 02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:43,040 parking TOT share and housing. I look forward to more discussion on potential solutions to those 1141 02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:48,560 issues and I would also welcome comment from the developer team about specifically the TOT share 1142 02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:59,040 and housing issues specifically. Thank you. Wow. I know it was a lot. I had to read it. 1143 02:12:59,040 --> 02:13:06,080 That was pretty good. I don't know if you want to address any of that now or we'll go to other 1144 02:13:06,080 --> 02:13:10,320 comments by council members. It was, you know, the council, Vice Mayor put a lot into that one. 1145 02:13:12,160 --> 02:13:17,200 I understand the concern there. It seems though that that's the model and some of the other 1146 02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:25,280 projects we have in the works. The first in Silverado Trail, second in Franklin, 1147 02:13:25,280 --> 02:13:29,520 I think they're going to be the same type of model right that they work in conjunction with a hotel 1148 02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:35,040 as far as I think that seems to like the model. I'd probably be a question more for the developer. 1149 02:13:35,040 --> 02:13:41,520 I know it's only ran just kind of the model that they're basing it on, but there are impacts to that. 1150 02:13:42,320 --> 02:13:52,560 Oh, yeah, most definitely. I thought you're articulated the TOT share on how to tighten that up 1151 02:13:53,360 --> 02:14:01,440 by your date certain or when it starts is a pretty good idea. Yeah. And well, it starts at either the 1152 02:14:01,440 --> 02:14:08,800 certificate of occupancy or the first TOT payment, right? Or are they the same thing? I guess 1153 02:14:08,800 --> 02:14:14,000 are the same thing? I would have Molly Wayne on this. We discussed this and she had kind of come up with 1154 02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:20,240 maybe a suggestion. Yeah, thank you. Council Member Leroy, Vice Mayor Leroy. Mary did reach out to me today to 1155 02:14:20,240 --> 02:14:27,360 talk a little bit more about this and for simplicity of what to write in the exhibit of the 1156 02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:31,520 development agreement, we would propose that it would be a sunset date when I heard a Vice Mayor 1157 02:14:31,520 --> 02:14:37,440 Leroy suggest was December 31, 2038. Our attorney Mary Wagner, if she wants to add anything, 1158 02:14:38,320 --> 02:14:44,880 can, but she did develop some language that basically adds a sunset saying that in no event to the 1159 02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:51,120 city's obligation to make any payments to the developer extend beyond insert date, whether or not the 1160 02:14:51,120 --> 02:14:55,360 tenure period has expired or whether or not the developer has been fully reimbursed for the costs. 1161 02:14:55,360 --> 02:15:00,400 So that could be a line added to exhibit J on this. 1162 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:06,220 Section, about the revenue sharing structure. 1163 02:15:06,220 --> 02:15:09,420 Okay. Well, thanks for having that work down. Thank you for bringing that ahead. 1164 02:15:09,420 --> 02:15:16,400 I think it will go to Council Member Deanathalee, thank you. 1165 02:15:16,400 --> 02:15:20,280 I do also support creative and essential for urgency to get the timing done. 1166 02:15:20,280 --> 02:15:25,880 I think it's essential that this gets done in a timely manner and allows us as little holes 1167 02:15:25,880 --> 02:15:32,680 in downtown as possible. I also support the design review committee and I do support also making 1168 02:15:32,680 --> 02:15:41,160 it public even if it's not a brown committee. And speaking to Dwight Murray Plaza, I support 1169 02:15:41,160 --> 02:15:45,480 the move of it. When Dwight Murray Plaza was built in 1970, there was not much on the other 1170 02:15:45,480 --> 02:15:50,840 side of the main. I think there were some higher shops in a wrecking yard. So I think moving 1171 02:15:50,840 --> 02:15:58,680 it to that side and connecting the city together is right. I too had concerns about parking, 1172 02:15:58,680 --> 02:16:02,920 but the idea of making the valley open to everybody I think does mitigate some of my concerns around 1173 02:16:02,920 --> 02:16:09,000 that. I also support adding the bike in closures and adding more of that and putting it in line 1174 02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:20,120 with how the law is going to change. Thank you. Kelsman and painter. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, I'll start with 1175 02:16:20,120 --> 02:16:25,320 my gushing comments and then I want to maybe just sort of follow up and help try to set some framework 1176 02:16:25,320 --> 02:16:31,800 around by smearlerosis comments. You know, first of all, you know, our planning commission did review 1177 02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:36,920 this in great detail. I think we all listened to the meeting on June 5th and I think you're hearing pretty 1178 02:16:36,920 --> 02:16:42,760 strong alignment with the comments. So I just want to express my thanks to the commissioners who put 1179 02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:48,040 you know, significant work into looking at this and all the staff because that was a productive and 1180 02:16:48,040 --> 02:16:55,000 meaningful meeting. So thank you to that. We've already heard tonight that the framework for this 1181 02:16:55,000 --> 02:17:01,640 is really started with our downtown specific plan, which was adopted in 2012. So this has been many 1182 02:17:01,640 --> 02:17:08,280 years in the making and you've already seen that this particular site is really critical to our downtown. 1183 02:17:08,280 --> 02:17:13,320 You know, I know it's called that focus area. I kind of think of it as the center of a wheel 1184 02:17:13,320 --> 02:17:19,000 because all these things radiate out from that spot. So it is a very critical location. 1185 02:17:21,320 --> 02:17:26,360 In terms of a Dwight Murray Plaza, you know, it's not just this council, but it's previous councils, 1186 02:17:27,160 --> 02:17:34,200 you know, who have weighed in on what should happen to that space. We don't have the kind of space 1187 02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:39,480 that you might use to develop sort of a synoma square or a heel sprook square. I don't think that's 1188 02:17:39,480 --> 02:17:47,320 really what our goal is. What we do have is this amazing opportunity to create these civic spaces 1189 02:17:47,880 --> 02:17:53,400 that will enhance our ability to connect all of our downtown, including all the way to the oxbow 1190 02:17:53,400 --> 02:17:59,960 and maybe even ultimately all the way to Jefferson Street. So I'm really excited to see that that vision 1191 02:17:59,960 --> 02:18:06,840 is coming to fruition. I think that is our civic space. And I think that's what we're going to be known for 1192 02:18:06,840 --> 02:18:14,520 in terms of the uniqueness of our civic space experience. I understand the discussion about first street, 1193 02:18:15,400 --> 02:18:20,920 but really kind of the way that I see it is the old development that we had that had that pull out and had Dwight 1194 02:18:20,920 --> 02:18:26,840 Murray. Everything was kind of turning its back to the Napa River and by moving and taking this 1195 02:18:26,840 --> 02:18:33,080 Paseo and creating the space on Brown Street and creating the connection to the oxbow district, 1196 02:18:34,040 --> 02:18:41,080 we're now sort of incorporating the Napa River in a much more holistic way to how we all will experience 1197 02:18:41,080 --> 02:18:47,560 our downtown. And it turns really the Paseo experience more towards a focus to the river. And I think 1198 02:18:47,560 --> 02:18:54,360 that is a part of our identity. And I think this project creates that by taking that center wheel of the 1199 02:18:54,360 --> 02:19:00,440 Spoke and creating those connections. I understand the documents that we're considering tonight are 1200 02:19:00,440 --> 02:19:06,680 really complicated, but that's how we need to approach this kind of development. We need a really strong 1201 02:19:06,680 --> 02:19:13,320 development agreement. We need a well-defined and specific PD. We need the details of the tentative map. 1202 02:19:13,320 --> 02:19:20,120 We need to complete the SQL process and ensure consistency with our downtown specific plan in general plans. 1203 02:19:20,120 --> 02:19:26,120 So I think all of that works together really well. I'll give one example. I think the PD 1204 02:19:26,120 --> 02:19:32,120 ordnance did a really nice job. Not only in providing all of that detail and images that will help with our 1205 02:19:32,120 --> 02:19:39,720 design review effort, but even went to the extent of comparing what's being proposed to the existing zoning. So it's 1206 02:19:39,720 --> 02:19:46,200 easy to read and it's easy to understand and I really appreciated that. Let's see. 1207 02:19:46,200 --> 02:19:54,920 So the Affordable Housing Alternative Equivalent, you know, I think it works well for our community. 1208 02:19:54,920 --> 02:20:00,760 I do want to get into the notion of the residential units and what they are. I do want to also 1209 02:20:00,760 --> 02:20:10,600 acknowledge that we're going to get the ongoing 1% from TOT every year from both the hotel units and whatever 1210 02:20:10,920 --> 02:20:16,840 we might get from the rental of those condo units. So there is some additional ongoing 1211 02:20:16,840 --> 02:20:21,080 and perpetuity that we will get from those units and I think that's really significant. 1212 02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:28,760 So with that, I think the three areas that Vice Mayor Leros talked about parking, I think we're kind of 1213 02:20:28,760 --> 02:20:33,240 done. I think that's pretty clear and we've heard a agreement on that particularly. I like the idea 1214 02:20:33,240 --> 02:20:38,440 of some bike racks in that pull out area because I think we will have people coming down and using that. 1215 02:20:39,240 --> 02:20:46,520 The TOT share, I think, you know, kind of without saying end of 2038 kind of does that but if we 1216 02:20:46,520 --> 02:20:53,320 can memorialize that, I think that would be beneficial to all parties. I'm hearing that we're ready to go. 1217 02:20:53,320 --> 02:21:02,840 So let's do that. You know, the Housing Impact fee, I think you went through three different options. The first two, 1218 02:21:02,840 --> 02:21:08,280 the first one was kind of nuclear and I would tend to agree with that. I think we would have trouble 1219 02:21:08,280 --> 02:21:15,560 trying to figure out who can own a condo. I think that puts us in a really difficult place to try to 1220 02:21:15,560 --> 02:21:23,640 manage that. So I think the only thing we could potentially do is look at how the fee is calculated based 1221 02:21:23,640 --> 02:21:31,640 on the condo fee versus $6 a square foot. I'd be open to that but I also want us to really 1222 02:21:31,640 --> 02:21:37,000 think about the notion that what's the bigger picture for housing is the ongoing one percent of 1223 02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:44,520 TOT from any rental of those units. And what I would also say is I think from day one, the applicant has 1224 02:21:44,520 --> 02:21:50,680 been pretty open and transparent that these are branded residential units. That's what they are. That's what 1225 02:21:50,680 --> 02:21:59,240 they are as a part of this project. I understood that coming into this. I would hope and I'd like the 1226 02:21:59,240 --> 02:22:04,760 applicant to confirm that the units certainly could be sold as standalone residential where 1227 02:22:04,760 --> 02:22:12,840 somebody does not at all have to participate in the rental program. How many will decide to do that? 1228 02:22:12,840 --> 02:22:17,000 We don't really know. Maybe that's a report back. We could get in a year or a couple of years. 1229 02:22:18,040 --> 02:22:26,120 But I think for me, I want to hear from other council members. I might be willing to look at a 1230 02:22:26,120 --> 02:22:32,520 little bit of an incremental increase in the square footage costs. But I think we need to allow 1231 02:22:32,520 --> 02:22:38,600 the process to move forward and we can see how many of those units sell as standalone residential 1232 02:22:38,600 --> 02:22:46,760 versus the branded units that would go back into the rental pool. I don't have any additional 1233 02:22:47,560 --> 02:22:54,600 changes that I would propose making. I'm in favor of this project moving forward and seeing it get 1234 02:22:54,600 --> 02:23:01,880 started as quickly as we can. Thank you. Mr. Mayor, if I may jump in on the three options that 1235 02:23:01,880 --> 02:23:07,320 Vice Mayor Laura has laid out and then that Council Member Panor just commented on. My only concern, 1236 02:23:07,320 --> 02:23:13,480 I understand a, the thought is it might not, it just might not financially be feasible. Be gives me a 1237 02:23:13,480 --> 02:23:18,680 little bit of pause without looking very closely at fair housing laws and I didn't have time to do that 1238 02:23:18,680 --> 02:23:24,600 prior to this meeting. There is potential that restricting who you can sell to might run against fair 1239 02:23:24,600 --> 02:23:30,120 housing laws, particularly if we're taking regional housing needs credit for these units. Again, 1240 02:23:30,120 --> 02:23:35,960 we're taking it for moderate above moderate units, so it's not something. We really need more of 1241 02:23:35,960 --> 02:23:41,560 when we're putting in rain. But it would just be something that I would like to look into or consider 1242 02:23:41,560 --> 02:23:46,680 a little bit more because I don't have a solid answer on that at this moment. 1243 02:23:48,680 --> 02:23:56,280 Maybe if you could, would we have the option to look at using the hotel rate square footage versus 1244 02:23:56,280 --> 02:24:02,600 the condo rate? Yeah, I had the opportunity to talk with one of our attorneys about that. I think it 1245 02:24:02,600 --> 02:24:07,320 would have to be at the developers discretion, the developer would have to agree to it. I'm not sure 1246 02:24:07,320 --> 02:24:12,200 that legally and and Mary or Chris, I'm not sure if you there if you want to chime in. You know, we have 1247 02:24:12,200 --> 02:24:17,160 an ordinance written. They are able to provide an in lieu. It has to be equal to or more. 1248 02:24:18,120 --> 02:24:22,760 So I would say that the cleanest way to do that also would be to have the developer buy in and 1249 02:24:22,760 --> 02:24:28,520 a great involvement and offer to do it essentially. Yeah, because those things seem plain. I don't know 1250 02:24:28,520 --> 02:24:33,800 but by project by project whether we can set impact fees. So for this project we want to pay more 1251 02:24:33,800 --> 02:24:39,080 impact fees but we do have established fees structure of these schedule right now and I don't know that 1252 02:24:39,080 --> 02:24:44,760 can we unless we change that fee schedule would be difficult to do it by project by project. 1253 02:24:45,720 --> 02:24:51,560 Well, so in the few structure in general, the city is going through an excess study similar to what 1254 02:24:51,560 --> 02:24:56,600 the county was mentioned earlier that the county is doing but that yes, that wouldn't be retroactive to 1255 02:24:56,600 --> 02:25:00,920 projects that were already approved. I'm just going to I'm going to look to Chris and see if he feels 1256 02:25:00,920 --> 02:25:06,120 differently about it but I think that it would be an ask of the developer. I'm not sure how it would 1257 02:25:06,120 --> 02:25:11,080 become a requirement from the affordable housing perspective. No, thank you Molly for the question. Yeah, 1258 02:25:11,080 --> 02:25:15,400 I know I totally agree with your assessment. I think it needs to be at the developer's discretion to 1259 02:25:15,400 --> 02:25:20,040 say yes to that. If we wanted to impose a different impact fee, we'd have to go back and look at the 1260 02:25:20,040 --> 02:25:24,760 ordinance update that and make sure it's it's it's square away so that before this item gets to you, 1261 02:25:25,320 --> 02:25:29,400 essentially we have the ability to do that and impose that higher impact fee. Okay, can I ask one more 1262 02:25:29,400 --> 02:25:36,840 question, might help try to frame this. Is that fee paid at the time the unit is built or the unit is sold? 1263 02:25:37,800 --> 02:25:44,360 So there's there's two parts of the affordable housing proposed in this. The first is the in lieu, 1264 02:25:45,080 --> 02:25:50,200 which is based on the square footage of all of the buildings that is proposed to go directly to 1265 02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:58,200 Burbank housing either at the time of pulling building permits or if Burbank needs it sooner potentially that 1266 02:25:59,080 --> 02:26:07,720 on top of that so already above that is a $2 per square foot which was offered by the developer 1267 02:26:07,720 --> 02:26:16,200 at the time of sale of the condo units. So it's on top of the fees which were calculated would be calculated 1268 02:26:16,200 --> 02:26:24,520 using condos for condos retail for retail hotel for hotel per our ordinance but that $2 was an extra 1269 02:26:24,520 --> 02:26:30,200 that was offered by the developer that would be paid at the time of the sale of the condo that follows the 1270 02:26:30,200 --> 02:26:35,160 model that we used with Stanley Ranch and so we are actually now just starting to see those dollars 1271 02:26:35,160 --> 02:26:45,000 come in for Stanley Ranch as their units are being our being sold. I just wanted to jump in really quick and maybe 1272 02:26:45,000 --> 02:26:50,040 ask the developer to weigh in on this you hear us struggling with this issue and maybe you can can help. 1273 02:26:50,920 --> 02:26:59,320 Mayor, if that's acceptable to you. Councilmember Loro should write up three issues I may take a 1274 02:26:59,320 --> 02:27:06,920 little out of order and then I'll focus on the housing one. The TOT one in of 2038 and I agree with Molly I think 1275 02:27:06,920 --> 02:27:10,840 the rather than condition of approval let's put in the TOT share agreement that's probably the cleanest 1276 02:27:12,040 --> 02:27:15,880 place to put it and we can we can do that between now and second reading. 1277 02:27:16,520 --> 02:27:22,920 On parking we had in and it was a huge volume of materials in the guidelines we were planning on the 1278 02:27:22,920 --> 02:27:28,360 additional bike parking actually being on the other side of the bridge over the creek so sort of that 1279 02:27:28,360 --> 02:27:33,320 pearl main street lot but that can get figured out in design review we were planning for extra the additional 1280 02:27:33,320 --> 02:27:37,960 parking we talked about we just had it there was some really cool spots over there to put it but that that will be 1281 02:27:37,960 --> 02:27:46,280 worked out in the design review process so sort of housing complicated issue I mean we've been talking 1282 02:27:46,280 --> 02:27:51,080 about this stuff councilmember Loro's back to stay in the ranch and others right and it is a tough one 1283 02:27:51,640 --> 02:27:59,000 the objective of this project and it's housing peace for the city was to create activity right and to 1284 02:27:59,000 --> 02:28:04,600 do that it's bodies on on the street whether you're a full-time resident part-time resident or a 1285 02:28:04,600 --> 02:28:10,120 guest of the residential unit or the hotel so that's that was the the intention get those bodies there 1286 02:28:10,680 --> 02:28:16,680 what we've seen and it's not unique to napa but it's it's impacted napa standing ranch for one there's other 1287 02:28:16,680 --> 02:28:22,680 other projects and throughout the state and we've got our financial experts here that go into more details I'll 1288 02:28:22,680 --> 02:28:28,840 just give you that the high level what owners demand in buying a unit and these projects are all built 1289 02:28:28,840 --> 02:28:35,320 around selling a unit is optionality they want to know I can live there I can live their part-time 1290 02:28:35,320 --> 02:28:41,400 and rented out or I can rent it out if I'm not around and what what often happens in the marketplace is 1291 02:28:41,400 --> 02:28:46,200 that buy I want to live there and then decide I want to buy something else and couple years later I want 1292 02:28:46,200 --> 02:28:51,720 to put it in the room pool and they're welcomed into that under under the arrangements so it's sort of 1293 02:28:51,720 --> 02:28:57,800 an influx but what we find is that buyers don't buy these with additional restrictions even if they don't 1294 02:28:57,880 --> 02:29:02,040 have the intention of renting it out all the time or staying there all the time it just impacts 1295 02:29:03,880 --> 02:29:08,520 the ability to sell these and these projects are all designed around the ability to sell 1296 02:29:09,720 --> 02:29:14,280 that's key to the level of quality we're looking at to be a much different project if it didn't meet 1297 02:29:15,560 --> 02:29:22,600 being able to sell these so under first couple of items they're difficult what worries me beyond the 1298 02:29:23,560 --> 02:29:28,920 for housing laws is just the the the challenge of restricting sales and ownership these things get 1299 02:29:28,920 --> 02:29:34,280 complicated to get involved in various areas of law when is it real estate winners investment you fall 1300 02:29:34,280 --> 02:29:40,840 in your security and and how you restrict ownership goes into that so those are just giant you know I'm not 1301 02:29:40,840 --> 02:29:46,920 smart enough to anything about securities all I know is to be scared of securities and so we want to stay away from 1302 02:29:47,000 --> 02:29:53,080 that side of of of trouble if we can but still deliver that vibrant where people can live there 1303 02:29:53,080 --> 02:29:58,760 live their part time or rent it out and if they do run it out it's all through the hotel mechanism 1304 02:29:58,760 --> 02:30:00,760 so you're not going to have a cup 1305 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:05,000 So, when there would be MBA or something, it's all through that system in the hotel. 1306 02:30:05,000 --> 02:30:10,000 And so I hate to sit here and say, all those first two options are tough, but they are for us. 1307 02:30:10,000 --> 02:30:19,000 So when it comes to feet, the question is, is it voluntary and no developer wants to spend more money on fees if they don't have to, right? 1308 02:30:19,000 --> 02:30:25,000 Because these are tough projects. But at the same time, we've given a big presentation how we're committed to housing. 1309 02:30:25,000 --> 02:30:40,000 And what we'd like to see is if bringing it up to that six dollar amount, if we can run it through and make an amendment to with direction, if it's, if it's workable to our alternative equivalent, 1310 02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:47,000 how that's approved and flow it through that, we'd be willing to put in that extra money as part of our commitment to housing in this town. 1311 02:30:47,000 --> 02:30:55,000 It's just that's the easiest mechanism of control. So if that were accessible, we'd like to put that additional dollar amount that you're talking about. 1312 02:30:55,000 --> 02:31:01,000 And we would accept that and we can clean that up between now and second reading. 1313 02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:08,000 So that would be exhibit H and increasing the dollar amount on exhibit H. 1314 02:31:08,000 --> 02:31:15,000 I believe that it comes to be about two hundred, so two million, two hundred and sixty three thousand two hundred and thirty six dollars. 1315 02:31:15,000 --> 02:31:17,000 But I would, we'll do the math. 1316 02:31:17,000 --> 02:31:18,000 We'll have to do the math. 1317 02:31:18,000 --> 02:31:27,000 So I would suggest that you that if that is included in the motion to direct staff on the six dollars and have us calculate it, recalculate it. 1318 02:31:27,000 --> 02:31:29,000 You may want to direct them to accept on the flight. 1319 02:31:29,000 --> 02:31:38,000 I think that works Chris, that's something along those lines. 1320 02:31:38,000 --> 02:31:40,000 And I'm okay with that. 1321 02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:48,000 One of the things I just want people to keep in mind is that, you know, that the issue with Picasso was almost being bought in residential neighborhoods, right? 1322 02:31:48,000 --> 02:31:50,000 This is downtown. 1323 02:31:50,000 --> 02:31:54,000 This is where you want activity to occur. 1324 02:31:54,000 --> 02:31:56,000 And, you know, we're talking about dollars and cents. 1325 02:31:56,000 --> 02:32:01,000 It's really important because the impact to our community impact to infrastructure. 1326 02:32:01,000 --> 02:32:04,000 And we're building a pretty unique project here. 1327 02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:12,000 But I want to to think, I want you to think about some of the purchases property that may not be wanting to visit. 1328 02:32:12,000 --> 02:32:15,000 Maybe we can't control a second house here, right? 1329 02:32:15,000 --> 02:32:16,000 Second ownership. 1330 02:32:16,000 --> 02:32:20,000 They're only there six months of the year, then six months is empty. 1331 02:32:20,000 --> 02:32:26,000 I want, I want bodies in those rooms to be able to go down and shop and eat and spend their money. 1332 02:32:26,000 --> 02:32:32,000 So, also because it's a little bit more attractive when you have that because they can sell it. 1333 02:32:32,000 --> 02:32:34,000 And we tend to, we sell it. 1334 02:32:34,000 --> 02:32:36,000 There's dollars per square foot. 1335 02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:37,000 Back to our TOT. 1336 02:32:37,000 --> 02:32:40,000 So there's a lot of benefit I think to having this structure. 1337 02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:43,000 So I'm not worried about because it's not in the neighborhood. 1338 02:32:43,000 --> 02:32:44,000 This is downtown. 1339 02:32:44,000 --> 02:32:46,000 There's the quart downtown. 1340 02:32:46,000 --> 02:32:52,000 I think this will help really increase more foot traffic in that area. 1341 02:32:52,000 --> 02:32:54,000 Had this been a model in the neighborhood? 1342 02:32:54,000 --> 02:32:57,000 I would feel very, I would feel very, very different. 1343 02:32:57,000 --> 02:32:59,000 But I'm comfortable with the way it is. 1344 02:32:59,000 --> 02:33:06,000 And, you know, appreciate bringing that dollar up to help with that impact. 1345 02:33:07,000 --> 02:33:14,000 If I have other comments, but was there any, to want to make sure that we're good and that part on this? 1346 02:33:14,000 --> 02:33:20,000 We can take if you have another comment or I'll have a few comments too before we start to really take action. 1347 02:33:20,000 --> 02:33:22,000 But if you have more comments. 1348 02:33:22,000 --> 02:33:23,000 Yeah. 1349 02:33:23,000 --> 02:33:24,000 Absolutely. 1350 02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:25,000 Thank you. 1351 02:33:25,000 --> 02:33:30,000 Dwight Murray Plaza has, you know, a very sentimental connection to our community. 1352 02:33:30,000 --> 02:33:32,000 Both Chris and I served on Parks and Rec. 1353 02:33:32,000 --> 02:33:38,000 And for so many years we talked about how can we really activate the space. 1354 02:33:38,000 --> 02:33:42,000 And we tried so many different things and it hasn't really worked. 1355 02:33:42,000 --> 02:33:45,000 It has not, we've, we've gone through the Bell water. 1356 02:33:45,000 --> 02:33:46,000 Remember that? 1357 02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:48,000 I didn't, I didn't like the idea. 1358 02:33:48,000 --> 02:33:49,000 It was approved. 1359 02:33:49,000 --> 02:33:53,000 And it didn't happen due to, to number of factors. 1360 02:33:53,000 --> 02:33:55,000 There was a water feature there. 1361 02:33:55,000 --> 02:33:58,000 Then the state law changed and we're able to do that. 1362 02:33:58,000 --> 02:34:06,000 And we've used it here and there for events, but really when I look at, you know, 1363 02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:12,000 Think about the questions about first treat and that being a gathering space versus our downtown specific plan. 1364 02:34:12,000 --> 02:34:23,000 And when I look at that, you know, that plan that was made and very intentionally to help our downtown be where it is and where it's headed. 1365 02:34:23,000 --> 02:34:27,000 I think about the gatherings places. 1366 02:34:27,000 --> 02:34:36,000 And one of the comments and, and actually text and the downtown specific plan is specifically Coups. 1367 02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:40,000 We designed Coups Street Plaza to allow future two way, 1368 02:34:40,000 --> 02:34:43,000 Hold on, just here. 1369 02:34:43,000 --> 02:34:48,000 Do we design Coups Street for a garden places, outdoor seating areas, public spaces? 1370 02:34:48,000 --> 02:34:52,000 So I, you know, the space for, for, 1371 02:34:53,000 --> 02:34:56,000 Brown Street, going back to Brown Street. 1372 02:34:56,000 --> 02:35:01,000 You know, we've talked about active in that space for so many years and also has been the challenge. 1373 02:35:01,000 --> 02:35:10,000 I really see this project as being a call as for for Brown Street, connecting Brown Street down to third street up to Pearl and Clinton. 1374 02:35:10,000 --> 02:35:13,000 That's actually based on the drawing is going to be wider, right? 1375 02:35:13,000 --> 02:35:15,000 That that that series is going to be wider. 1376 02:35:15,000 --> 02:35:21,000 So naturally, I see that as a gathering space as a as a place where you have a lot of pedestrian. 1377 02:35:21,000 --> 02:35:27,000 Not only the, the drop-off area, but the connection to Oxford Commons. 1378 02:35:27,000 --> 02:35:28,000 We've talked about that. 1379 02:35:28,000 --> 02:35:34,000 Brockston, again, I mean, I go back to, you know, the improvement of our open spaces. 1380 02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:38,000 Connectivity talked about connected for so many years. 1381 02:35:38,000 --> 02:35:43,000 And I say, Oxford Common and, and the Brown Street corridor as a. 1382 02:35:43,000 --> 02:35:47,000 The next phase and connecting completing a lot of that area. 1383 02:35:47,000 --> 02:35:48,000 Right now. 1384 02:35:49,000 --> 02:35:52,000 You know, you see the traffic on first street. 1385 02:35:52,000 --> 02:35:57,000 But once you open up that that pastel and I do see that it's not being a breezeway. 1386 02:35:57,000 --> 02:36:01,000 That's, you know, one of the things that I expect to see is a really well designed. 1387 02:36:01,000 --> 02:36:03,000 Matching that picture or better. 1388 02:36:03,000 --> 02:36:08,000 So people can visit and walk down that and connect it to the other shopping areas. 1389 02:36:08,000 --> 02:36:17,000 So I get the, some of the comments and concerns about potential losing fursures because we're used to seeing Dwight Murray Plaza. 1390 02:36:17,000 --> 02:36:25,000 I'm first street, but naturally, you're going to see the gathering that pedestrians that activity on Brown Street. 1391 02:36:25,000 --> 02:36:26,000 And that's what we want to see. 1392 02:36:26,000 --> 02:36:30,000 We want to see a north and south connection that east and west through the Pesale. 1393 02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:33,000 And that's going to bring more people in. 1394 02:36:33,000 --> 02:36:36,000 One of the things we talked about the bike racks. 1395 02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:39,000 Part of the downtown specific plan is pedestrian bicycle activities. 1396 02:36:39,000 --> 02:36:42,000 So appreciate addressing the, the bicycle. 1397 02:36:42,000 --> 02:36:46,000 Whether it's a rack or they talked about security a certain way. 1398 02:36:46,000 --> 02:36:54,000 That's beyond my expertise. So I'll just say, you know, it's the best to be able to track not just pedestrians by bicyclist. 1399 02:36:54,000 --> 02:37:02,000 I'm hoping that the parking the man is not as high as we think it is because with the drop off with pedestrian. 1400 02:37:02,000 --> 02:37:12,000 Walkability and and bicycle enhancement people will want to go there not driving and and going through the drop off. 1401 02:37:12,000 --> 02:37:16,000 So helping maybe the non residents with the drop off through. 1402 02:37:16,000 --> 02:37:21,000 The ballet I don't know that could be a fee base or something that we can consider. 1403 02:37:21,000 --> 02:37:29,000 But I just want to make sure that we're doing everything we can to have people not drive their vehicles and and park downtown. 1404 02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:37,000 The T share and and that the end of that I think that that that's good with me, you know. 1405 02:37:37,000 --> 02:37:44,000 I've heard a lot about speed and efficiency and appreciate the. 1406 02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:48,000 Your your excitement for this project and moving forward. 1407 02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:52,000 Because I think it's going to set the tone for future development. 1408 02:37:52,000 --> 02:37:58,000 You're using the bar, you're raising the quality you're you're raising that that the. 1409 02:37:58,000 --> 02:38:05,000 What we expect to see we've talked about projects like this and I think we very like you to have something like this that we're going to. 1410 02:38:05,000 --> 02:38:07,000 You know see in the near future. 1411 02:38:07,000 --> 02:38:12,000 I do want to make sure that we continue to work with the businesses there's going to be some impact. 1412 02:38:12,000 --> 02:38:14,000 So I heard that earlier. 1413 02:38:14,000 --> 02:38:18,000 I also chime in and say I agree with that. 1414 02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:24,000 So I just don't want to lose sight on on housing downtown. 1415 02:38:24,000 --> 02:38:29,000 We're going to help affordable housing, whether that that project first methods happens or not. 1416 02:38:29,000 --> 02:38:30,000 And it's going to be there. 1417 02:38:30,000 --> 02:38:36,000 We have a improved housing department that's really focused on providing a housing throughout our community. 1418 02:38:36,000 --> 02:38:39,000 I don't think that was the case 15 20 years ago. 1419 02:38:39,000 --> 02:38:46,000 So then Luffy is those dollars that we get to a housing fund has been more impactful recently that ever. 1420 02:38:46,000 --> 02:38:52,000 So that the money coming in into our pot and give it to our team to make it happen. 1421 02:38:52,000 --> 02:38:58,000 It is something to have a lot of confidence in we've seen the land trust model occur earlier this year. 1422 02:38:58,000 --> 02:39:01,000 So and we have other opportunities in the near future. 1423 02:39:01,000 --> 02:39:03,000 So however that money. 1424 02:39:03,000 --> 02:39:08,000 It goes to affordable housing, whether it's a project or our team or housing team. 1425 02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:12,000 I'm I'm fully confident that will utilize it to the best. 1426 02:39:12,000 --> 02:39:14,000 You know for those resources. 1427 02:39:15,000 --> 02:39:17,000 I like this project. 1428 02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:21,000 I think it fulfills the vision of the downtown specific plan. 1429 02:39:21,000 --> 02:39:23,000 I would say that. 1430 02:39:23,000 --> 02:39:26,000 There's a lot of history in in Napa. 1431 02:39:26,000 --> 02:39:29,000 They're preserving the history through some of the design. 1432 02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:38,000 You know, some of us like to write Murray Plaza, but we were evolving into a design to fulfill what people wanted with the downtown specific plan. 1433 02:39:38,000 --> 02:39:40,000 I really think this will do that. 1434 02:39:40,000 --> 02:39:45,000 Not only on the Brown Street, but this project by south of a first street. 1435 02:39:45,000 --> 02:39:46,000 We need to activate that too. 1436 02:39:46,000 --> 02:39:53,000 There's there's some buildings there that I think will there be more motivation to utilize those spaces. 1437 02:39:53,000 --> 02:39:56,000 When you have something like this project. 1438 02:39:56,000 --> 02:40:00,000 And it tells people that we're we're continuing to invest. 1439 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:04,000 There will open for business that come in and build. 1440 02:40:04,000 --> 02:40:07,000 And put it through housing support current businesses. 1441 02:40:07,000 --> 02:40:10,000 So I think all around this is a really good project. 1442 02:40:10,000 --> 02:40:14,000 The development agreement is very comprehensive because it's a big project. 1443 02:40:14,000 --> 02:40:17,000 And I appreciate staff really working through that. 1444 02:40:17,000 --> 02:40:20,000 So I'm supportive of this. 1445 02:40:20,000 --> 02:40:23,000 With those few amendments, but the TOT make sure that. 1446 02:40:23,000 --> 02:40:26,000 You know, we call account with the timeline. 1447 02:40:26,000 --> 02:40:29,000 But thank you very much. 1448 02:40:29,000 --> 02:40:30,000 Thank you. 1449 02:40:31,000 --> 02:40:32,000 Just confirm the council. 1450 02:40:32,000 --> 02:40:39,000 It seems like we have agreement on and was staff on the 2038 kind of the tax here. 1451 02:40:39,000 --> 02:40:41,000 And date to help. 1452 02:40:41,000 --> 02:40:42,000 And then also maybe. 1453 02:40:42,000 --> 02:40:43,000 Well, we also agree. 1454 02:40:43,000 --> 02:40:46,000 I think that the developers willing to. 1455 02:40:46,000 --> 02:40:50,000 We work to impact these on housing that can make come to the end number. 1456 02:40:50,000 --> 02:40:53,000 I think if Molly you got that too captured. 1457 02:40:53,000 --> 02:40:57,000 I'm not sure if there was one other in that, but I'll go on. 1458 02:40:57,000 --> 02:40:59,000 And we can finish this up. 1459 02:40:59,000 --> 02:41:01,000 I want to first thank three VG. 1460 02:41:01,000 --> 02:41:03,000 Thank you for investing in our community. 1461 02:41:03,000 --> 02:41:05,000 I mean, that means a lot to us. 1462 02:41:05,000 --> 02:41:08,000 It's a big big step to take in this environment. 1463 02:41:08,000 --> 02:41:09,000 And this, you know. 1464 02:41:09,000 --> 02:41:12,000 This kind of political world we're in right now. 1465 02:41:12,000 --> 02:41:13,000 So. 1466 02:41:13,000 --> 02:41:15,000 And this is going to send a message. 1467 02:41:15,000 --> 02:41:18,000 The NAP is open and NAP will be open in the future. 1468 02:41:18,000 --> 02:41:20,000 So I support the project. 1469 02:41:20,000 --> 02:41:23,000 You know, with three VG teaming up with our. 1470 02:41:23,000 --> 02:41:26,000 Our own first United Methodist church. 1471 02:41:26,000 --> 02:41:30,000 On their housing project, which I think was out of the box thinking on their part. 1472 02:41:30,000 --> 02:41:32,000 And I know we've supported that. 1473 02:41:32,000 --> 02:41:37,000 And we're going to do everything we can to get that housing project across the finish line. 1474 02:41:37,000 --> 02:41:43,000 You know, this this project is an investment in creating jobs. 1475 02:41:43,000 --> 02:41:47,000 And thanks to my brothers and sisters in the Carpenters Union out there, 1476 02:41:47,000 --> 02:41:50,000 for showing up tonight, sticking in here. 1477 02:41:50,000 --> 02:41:55,000 Those jobs are a little wage jobs with pensions and health care. 1478 02:41:56,000 --> 02:42:02,000 You know, it's it's a high quality architecture and it's going to be compatible with the downtown there. 1479 02:42:02,000 --> 02:42:06,000 We're in goodman the Gordon building and then first national bank. 1480 02:42:06,000 --> 02:42:08,000 I think it's all going to tie in very well. 1481 02:42:08,000 --> 02:42:12,000 So. 1482 02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:16,000 When my children were small, they would say this is a heck of a good plan. 1483 02:42:16,000 --> 02:42:19,000 So I think it is a heck of a good plan. 1484 02:42:19,000 --> 02:42:21,000 I'd like to move forward with it. 1485 02:42:21,000 --> 02:42:24,000 Council member Painter had something to say on. 1486 02:42:24,000 --> 02:42:28,000 Yeah, I just had one minor addition to your very comprehensive list. 1487 02:42:28,000 --> 02:42:30,000 And that is that. 1488 02:42:30,000 --> 02:42:37,000 It would be great if we could get a report back six months after adoption of final adoption of the ordinances. 1489 02:42:37,000 --> 02:42:39,000 If we could include that in our recommendations. 1490 02:42:39,000 --> 02:42:40,000 We're well. 1491 02:42:43,000 --> 02:42:44,000 Yes. 1492 02:42:44,000 --> 02:42:48,000 Can I ask just clarifying is that in addition to the one year annual review. 1493 02:42:48,000 --> 02:42:53,000 Well, the one year annual review the way that I read it was internal for the city. 1494 02:42:53,000 --> 02:42:57,000 And it would only come to us if there was a disagreement or some. 1495 02:42:57,000 --> 02:42:59,000 Issue that we had to resolve. 1496 02:42:59,000 --> 02:43:01,000 And hopefully that's not going to happen. 1497 02:43:01,000 --> 02:43:05,000 You know, I'm talking more about something administrative that is just a report out. 1498 02:43:05,000 --> 02:43:06,000 Okay. 1499 02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:07,000 But to us. 1500 02:43:07,000 --> 02:43:08,000 Okay. 1501 02:43:08,000 --> 02:43:09,000 Great. 1502 02:43:09,000 --> 02:43:11,000 We appreciate that also. 1503 02:43:11,000 --> 02:43:12,000 We're in support of that. 1504 02:43:12,000 --> 02:43:13,000 So. 1505 02:43:13,000 --> 02:43:14,000 Do you need a motion. 1506 02:43:14,000 --> 02:43:16,000 We need a motion. 1507 02:43:16,000 --> 02:43:19,000 I think Vice Mayor is going to take a stab at it. 1508 02:43:20,000 --> 02:43:21,000 I have. 1509 02:43:21,000 --> 02:43:28,000 I believe we want for separate motions one on each action and I have been writing down the language for the one for number one. 1510 02:43:28,000 --> 02:43:30,000 If you'd like me to read it. 1511 02:43:30,000 --> 02:43:31,000 Otherwise. 1512 02:43:31,000 --> 02:43:33,000 Or to vice mayor. 1513 02:43:33,000 --> 02:43:35,000 I say council member. 1514 02:43:35,000 --> 02:43:37,000 Three ordinances and resolution. 1515 02:43:37,000 --> 02:43:42,000 You know, throughout this discussion. 1516 02:43:42,000 --> 02:43:45,000 I just want to know Mr. Chris George for. 1517 02:43:46,000 --> 02:43:49,000 Looking at an app coming in here and willing to invest. 1518 02:43:49,000 --> 02:43:51,000 And and look at our downtown specific plan. 1519 02:43:51,000 --> 02:43:54,000 Because we've looked at the building for so long. 1520 02:43:54,000 --> 02:43:55,000 And you know. 1521 02:43:55,000 --> 02:43:57,000 I'm grateful for the opportunity to work. 1522 02:43:57,000 --> 02:43:58,000 I deal as work. 1523 02:43:58,000 --> 02:44:01,000 Good for us as a win-win situation. 1524 02:44:01,000 --> 02:44:04,000 And I just want to make sure that you know everything's clear here. 1525 02:44:04,000 --> 02:44:05,000 That you know. 1526 02:44:05,000 --> 02:44:08,000 This is the collaborative effort that you looking for. 1527 02:44:08,000 --> 02:44:11,000 Because we're going to be married on this for quite some time. 1528 02:44:11,000 --> 02:44:14,000 So Mr. George, do you have any comments on this? 1529 02:44:14,000 --> 02:44:17,000 I want to make sure that before we move forward that. 1530 02:44:17,000 --> 02:44:19,000 You know, we're we're a partner here. 1531 02:44:19,000 --> 02:44:21,000 We're going to be married on this for a long time. 1532 02:44:21,000 --> 02:44:24,000 And we can sort of any challenges through this process. 1533 02:44:24,000 --> 02:44:26,000 But make sure that we have a successful project. 1534 02:44:26,000 --> 02:44:29,000 Do I get three minutes again or can I. 1535 02:44:29,000 --> 02:44:30,000 Sorry. 1536 02:44:30,000 --> 02:44:33,000 You're welcome and I I have to tell you that. 1537 02:44:33,000 --> 02:44:40,000 This started out is something that what we thought it was going to be. 1538 02:44:40,000 --> 02:44:44,000 And it is turned into just an unbelievable labor of love. 1539 02:44:44,000 --> 02:44:47,000 You know, it's one of those things that we're just so committed to. 1540 02:44:47,000 --> 02:44:52,000 And you know, just listening to you guys and talk about the depth of the way you've thought through this. 1541 02:44:52,000 --> 02:44:55,000 I'm surprised your deck is that small. 1542 02:44:55,000 --> 02:44:58,000 I mean, he has like 12 of these things on my desk. 1543 02:44:58,000 --> 02:45:00,000 And so I just, you know, listen. 1544 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:17,000 And this has been a big group community project and it's nice to listen to you guys talk about it the same way we've been talking about it for three years. So, thanks so much. We're proud to be a member of your community and we will, we will absolutely make sure you're very proud of what we finish here. Thank you. 1545 02:45:17,000 --> 02:45:20,000 Thank you. 1546 02:45:20,000 --> 02:45:27,000 Ms. Miller, take a stand. We're looking forward for motions on three ordinances and resolution. 1547 02:45:27,000 --> 02:45:33,000 I'll take a stab at the first motion, but it sounds like Molly has language she wanted to. 1548 02:45:33,000 --> 02:45:44,000 I believe the recommendation language would be to approve the first reading and introduction of an ordinance of proving development agreement as described in recommended action number one. 1549 02:45:44,000 --> 02:45:50,000 But including the acceptance of revised exhibit K which stuff provided to you earlier today. 1550 02:45:50,000 --> 02:45:58,000 Adding sunset language to exhibit J for the TOT of December 31st, 2038. 1551 02:45:58,000 --> 02:46:10,000 Adding an ensuring that the number of bike storage numbers is 39 and exhibit I and there's one more. 1552 02:46:10,000 --> 02:46:17,000 Adding to exhibit each ensuring that the calculation represents the six dollars per square foot for the hotel. 1553 02:46:17,000 --> 02:46:28,000 And then adding a therefore clause or a clause to return to the council in six months with a red mid year or mid report of the process. 1554 02:46:28,000 --> 02:46:30,000 Yeah, go ahead. 1555 02:46:30,000 --> 02:46:35,000 Mayor, members of the council on Mary Wagner and with Burke Williams and so on and worked on the development agreement. 1556 02:46:35,000 --> 02:46:43,000 For the city, I just wanted to also clarify whether we were changing the 18 months to 12 months in section 8.1 point something. 1557 02:46:43,000 --> 02:46:56,000 I would accept that friendly amendment to the motion and I will very happily make that motion with a very big thank you to the developers you had a that was a voluntary contribution and it is much appreciated. 1558 02:46:56,000 --> 02:46:58,000 So, so moved second. 1559 02:46:58,000 --> 02:47:03,000 Move by vice mayor and lower second by councilmember painter. All in favor. 1560 02:47:03,000 --> 02:47:05,000 Aye. Aye. Any opposed. 1561 02:47:05,000 --> 02:47:07,000 Here's unanimous lead. 1562 02:47:07,000 --> 02:47:11,000 There are no changes to the next three actions based on your conversations. 1563 02:47:11,000 --> 02:47:13,000 And then I will move. 1564 02:47:13,000 --> 02:47:19,000 Staff's recommendation for item two incorporating the exact language that is up there. 1565 02:47:19,000 --> 02:47:24,000 There's a motion from vice mayor. 1566 02:47:24,000 --> 02:47:27,000 Second by councilmember and vice. 1567 02:47:27,000 --> 02:47:30,000 All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed. 1568 02:47:30,000 --> 02:47:32,000 Here's unanimously. 1569 02:47:32,000 --> 02:47:38,000 And then I will move. Staff's recommendation for item three also incorporating the exact language that's up there. 1570 02:47:38,000 --> 02:47:40,000 Yeah, I'll second that. 1571 02:47:40,000 --> 02:47:41,000 We have motion by vice mayor. 1572 02:47:41,000 --> 02:47:43,000 Lower second by councilmember Dina Talley. 1573 02:47:43,000 --> 02:47:47,000 All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed. 1574 02:47:47,000 --> 02:47:49,000 Here's unanimously. 1575 02:47:49,000 --> 02:47:51,000 Resolution. 1576 02:47:51,000 --> 02:47:54,000 And then finally, I would move item. 1577 02:47:54,000 --> 02:47:58,000 Staff's recommendation for item four again incorporating the exact language that's up there. 1578 02:47:58,000 --> 02:47:59,000 Motion by vice mayor. 1579 02:47:59,000 --> 02:48:01,000 Lower second. 1580 02:48:01,000 --> 02:48:03,000 Second by councilmember painter. 1581 02:48:03,000 --> 02:48:08,000 All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed. 1582 02:48:08,000 --> 02:48:10,000 Here's unanimously. 1583 02:48:10,000 --> 02:48:11,000 Thank you. 1584 02:48:11,000 --> 02:48:12,000 Thank you. 1585 02:48:12,000 --> 02:48:13,000 Thank you. 1586 02:48:13,000 --> 02:48:15,000 Thank you. 1587 02:48:16,000 --> 02:48:21,000 Thank you everybody. 1588 02:48:21,000 --> 02:48:26,000 Thank you for your participation in the public process. 1589 02:48:26,000 --> 02:48:29,000 And we do have a little bit left in our meeting. 1590 02:48:29,000 --> 02:48:35,000 So we're going to ask the city attorney to provide any announcements before we go to closed session. 1591 02:48:35,000 --> 02:48:38,000 Or do you want to take a minute for a room clear out the room? 1592 02:48:38,000 --> 02:48:41,000 Mayor, I'll go ahead and make the announcement. 1593 02:48:41,000 --> 02:48:44,000 Just to get us back in the closed session room. 1594 02:48:45,000 --> 02:48:47,000 I'll be loud. 1595 02:48:47,000 --> 02:48:50,000 So we have one item in closed session conference with me. 1596 02:48:50,000 --> 02:48:53,000 Where's the meeting's not over yet? 1597 02:48:53,000 --> 02:48:56,000 So please stand back guys. 1598 02:48:56,000 --> 02:48:59,000 Hey, let's just take a short break. 1599 02:48:59,000 --> 02:49:02,000 Pele we clear it out and then we'll start back in again. 1600 02:49:10,000 --> 02:49:11,000 Quick. 1601 02:49:12,000 --> 02:49:13,000 It's on now. 1602 02:49:13,000 --> 02:49:14,000 Yeah, it's on. 1603 02:49:14,000 --> 02:49:15,000 All right. 1604 02:49:15,000 --> 02:49:16,000 Well, thank you. 1605 02:49:16,000 --> 02:49:17,000 Good job council. 1606 02:49:17,000 --> 02:49:18,000 Good job staff. 1607 02:49:18,000 --> 02:49:23,000 So I will now ask city attorney to make the reported announcement for closed session. 1608 02:49:23,000 --> 02:49:24,000 Thank you, Mayor. 1609 02:49:24,000 --> 02:49:28,000 Just wanted to announce for the public that the council will be convening in a closed session to consider one item. 1610 02:49:28,000 --> 02:49:31,000 Conference with legal council existing litigation. 1611 02:49:31,000 --> 02:49:35,000 pursuant to government code section five four nine five six point ninety one. 1612 02:49:35,000 --> 02:49:37,000 And it's the ally versus city of Napa. 1613 02:49:37,000 --> 02:49:38,000 Thank you. 1614 02:49:38,000 --> 02:49:39,000 Thank you very much. 1615 02:49:39,000 --> 02:49:44,000 Children in the closed session and they will be at un expected report out.