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12/20/2018.
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>> All right so this
morning we are going to be
doing interviews and rankings
of responses to requests for
proposals for land leases for
the development of the North
quadrant parcels one 2. And we
will be starting with parcel
one responded.
What we will is first we will
have the presentation by each
of the respondents.
He interviews. Then we'll have
questions from the
commissioners and then we will
rank first parcel one responds
then parcel to respond.
So I'd like to First
Call up the purse of one
respondents and I will start
with Marco hangers llc.
If you
could begin by stating your
name.
Good morning, ladies and gent.
And don't of Marco hangers.
I've submitted a proposal to
to develop a business aviation
complex. And
offering $0.55 for square foot.
But police fate.
And I'm big ocean on that.
I currently
own an affront fbo but Danbury
Connecticut which offers
similar as one of the polls in
here market, I'm sorry in
Naples.
Hangar
space Stein own offices.
Lobbies course restrooms if a
site.
And there's nowhere for over.
And I would like to take just a
minute. So you've been where
come from.
Was born in use in Europe.
when I was 13.
I was their report, but it
wanted to fly really bad it was
really like anxious that it was
really really poor.
When it came to this country
and I got this try to get a
little image, but it can get
about what's actually jorah
itself.
>> I was so course all I wanted
to fly I could afford it.
So I see use umbrellas to try
to fly to get it went to the
extent of meat taken my shoes
off us you know shoes. No
jackets I can actually be
lighter. I didn't work out well
always hurt when I fell
the work I so I give that up,
but I think about my dream.
What I wanted to do a. After
that. A I moved to more violent
but 2 years ago.
And if you connect a base that
more on that. But sometimes I
find me say that you ran
from rights air or just 5
months ago. Tonight we're a one
Abels airport.
That I heard
Naples front of it out there it
was very exciting to put a
proposal in and that's how
folks coming.
Same time, I'm working with
directed to all right that will
do the manufacture. For these
types of building and used them
before. There are one
of the largest in this country.
What I like about them is that
they do that building
and the door versus lot of
parties don't both.
At the same time I'm working
with whole mess team.
This is a little carrier to
look because I believe.
Lou has done everything in here
in Naples.
He's familiar with Naples
the Cubs but a whole long time.
And his son was on hand years
of the place.
So I chose him to be my project
manager and engineer. I believe
is the best but his job.
And now will let you come up
come up and talk about site
plan. And how come up in just
2, 2, more and afterwards.
If you've got any questions or
I think that you can dance.
Good
morning for a record not look
Carrie air.
With whole month as read it
times based in Fort Myers.
Proposed development in a
partial
one basically we have a a lot
that's a little bit more about
1.3 acres about 58,000 square
feet. We are proposing.
To put in about
25,000 spirit of a front that
is capable of holding aircrafts
a large corporate
aircraft, 75,000. The apron
will access directly onto a tax
lien rather than on to the
taxiway which is a bit more
safer from an operation
standpoint. A hanger
building is actually 24,000
square feet and will be divided
into 2 sections far wall one
of the advance of doing that is
that minimizes the cost for
fire suppression that's
something that we will need to
work out with the a
city our department
each show hangar will be about
12 square feet.
Along with that will be on the
back of the
building will be parking for
that this note, including the
required handicapped parking
and then it'll be an office
area that
waiting room and restrooms
that are all applicable
consistent
with your minimum standards.
A part of the project requires
us to extend the access road to
the facility. You go from the.
We'll be staying access road we
probably 10 to ornate that with
the development of parcel to
since is going to be a joint
issue along
with that will be a requirement
to extend
water line. Sanitary sewer and
electricity the building.
Building This
is a validation view of it.
A the maximum height of
buildings going to be 39 feet
we've looked at the heart 77 f
a a surface is to make sure
that we're not going to violate
that were well below that.
The doors are going to have a
Hi a
27 feet.
With about a 100 feet which
will allow us
Support some of the
larger The gulf stream's which
have close to 2526 foot tell
Heights.
The Finnish for elevation we
it's actually did some
preliminary design set the rate
at 7.3 7 which gives us.
The
appropriate grade slope
downwards to a
connecting to the actually
which is you know is already in
place.
But also to make sure that were
above the fleet, fema
elevation. Uh you know we need
to make sure we need all those
criteria is. The roof pitch is
pretty much standard. A our
office building Heisman be
about 20 feet. So that that's
going to be a well below the
building. A
this year John that gives you
an idea
we're proposing to to bill.
Now back to turn back to rush
this.
So we're going to be offering
aeronautical service. The
public people.
>> All and local standards on
this project. Well extent the
road and utility.
It's going to quality
construction. Hurricane
resistant.
All and in a's and
minimum standards. For the 30
year lease of $0.55
like I mentioned before.
We are negotiable that.
Why choose us where local
company. Experience and owner
of the running the project.
With the effective because
market plan. Another service,
the public.
A teen design Lou carrier.
High quality construction
material will meet
and a local standards. Safety
on an arson and that security
is a top priority. It will
increase veteran too.
>> I noticed on your pro forma
incomes income statement for 5
years project that out there's
no interest costs are you
financing this personally yet
so no no bank loans.
I am I'm finance when
I probably is but that's
something wholly separate.
But for this there's no there's
no fight there's no debt and
the uh a.
We mentioned this might be a
question for
You're splitting the building
into 2 parts to 2 sections as
but one big high.
He said near reasoning is for
fire suppression reasons lower
costs too because you don't
need the same was it
one of the eye enough why do
they use so far in these
facilities who I a the net
son of a building hangers
control under and get 4 oh 9
which took a entered specific
threat or that if you main
your bone, less than 12,000
square feet or standard metal
building. You don't need the
fire suppression system okay
see that the new and the home.
Arson I got an ok which makes a
lot more land right on work.
Well that limit the size
aircraft so that you can get
into each
section. Well it wasn't looking
at pretty much the largest
aircraft group 3 aircraft that
a Gulfstream. Fenton Abels
anyway. So.
Well now that you see of you
you a strategy for 50 in your
diagram but that I've seen g 6
50's come in here to know.
I yeah, I thought so based on
the field even bright. I mean
theoretically you
you could put just one hangar.
They're right and be able to
accommodate that larger than
that, but you know.
What is return on investment
and and how many can you
and the of those 6 50's you
really have right now we're
just asking the question now
know we basically looked at the
land that we had available.
And. How do
we best utilize action craft.
When
gets the you or talk about
female a video of Asian the
floor level elevations that's.
I thought it was higher than
that for some reason it it
remember where it using
you May be using 2 different at
one of them is and if he 3
which most current
and actually it when you look
at the fema flood maps, the
ovation is on foot lowered that
it used to be our up a base
know the.
It rolled by the existing
airfield payments that we have
understand yet.
Just clarify some.
I read a newspaper were Marco
Island was expanding.
This was so and your name is
Marco c
you do you have any interest a
financial interest or are you
building.
>> And the un town I mean I
think they put it at the end
and I believe they got a
moment.
You know this is my passion.
I love to see your planes uh
well, the Asian and even Marco,
but like I mentioned before
else
excited to put this proposal.
>> And you're in the bidding
process. As far as mark a
violent.
No I believe they decided.
Yourself trying to get a feel
for its that don't still going
soft.
>> I have said one other
question to ask you what's the
name of your business in
Danbury
it will exit aviation. Take
executive executive air service
but now no exit to the exit
evasion got a k. And you know
been in aviation business.
Every day makes me happy to see
Commissioners if I May.
Being that we don't know Mister
In eyes and yet that reference
we call them
and found that the positive
feedback that news 10 in good
standing at cut.
That are or been
in Danbury
Connecticut you do flight
instruction as well there.
But when you do flight
instruction as well as a white
school. That's currently
occupy.
There s a ca. Search so
basically.
This space is that correct.
You know we use of cell.
No I'm going to be for Naples
it's going to be rested for a
business unit charter.
Maintenance stuff like that.
>> You were talking about the
largest sized aircraft that you
thought would.
Are you willing to talk about
modifying your designed to a
common a larger aircraft or is
is this what you think you want
to do.
I am definitely open to
modifying aircraft if we which
if we have to be we won't put a
wall in the middle we just make
it one.
So you can fit the g 6.50.
But I think I mentioned I g
6.50 is all here.
To have the potential.
Tenet right now that's look
into paypal sites and they have
a charter company.
Because I know where mage
but they would like to take if
if I if we get it, it went off
i guess.
>> Also I notice that
you said you you were going to
be you're going to leave this
project. But you still have
your.
Facility acted aviation and am
very and you also
working in Marco who is going
to be responsible for your Dan
Barry facility.
Have person When you a long
time. The budget and.
You know other business down in
New York. But
>> we don't have to worry that
you spending too much time
and and they're going up of the
year. Okay I can understand
okay.
Think that's all I have anyone
else have They are.
>> I assume from what's the
incentive. The signs of 2.
Spooner the combination and
path and provide for 2
under current that that that
was predicated on. Fort Hood.
You perceive that demand to be
4
Reynolds faces that front.
Right I figure we go with to
just in case we don't get some
money that big.
At least we can
fit too small a jets in there
and I think will probably be
able to rent that a faster sort
of just one usual. But like I
mentioned before I do have a
potential tena don't want to
take it sure.
And we'll take it you there
with one or divide in the
middle.
I have another
question back to the fire
suppression so with that
divided like that there's no
requirement cording an fda for
fire suppression on either side
correct. There is a we part
fire suppression for system
other air.
A fire walls and.
Very specific elements right.
But it doesn't
are the phone. Our suppression
so it would be a water or pri
action system or this year a
cut.
>> I May have missed it.
The sketch shows it under
2 units 110.
What does that do work.
Opening.
90's 90
27 under what you propose, but
what I'm hearing is that you
are agreeable to modifying that
design to potentially eliminate
the partitions and if necessary
increase the door height.
Second
question are you willing to
accept a lease which only
permits commercial uses
in other words it doesn't allow
for private storage. Yes.
The union like a business.
Yes, it does it is that this
identified as the highest says
that's use in that are in our
if I want something that can
bring revenue to name.
>> Thank you Gentlemen,
anything else before you go.
Yeah, I would I save one
additional question cake ahead,
you provided us some
information on are erected
tube.
The officer building that would
be attached to that very little
detail. Do you have anything
more specific on the office in
terms of an architectural
rendering or anything or is
this all you have
this all eh for now. It may
change and
we're looking to build
somebody. You know if you just
a silly when I look in to go
light. Bill like you know like
10 years ago looking to do
anything with it was going to
be Maher.
For us and that is
he's given us parcel won in 2.
2 would it be wise this find
out if there's anything
different.
>> Hang on to that later we
come back, a.
Know we're going to deal with
them completely separately
because they they really are
different. Thank you know.
Thank you Gentlemen, thank you.
>> Ouster of this uh
presentation somehow or another
on the computer I promise you.
Thank you for the time this
morning. My name is Matt Hagens
I'm the owner of Naples jet
center which is part of the
first
wing group of companies first
wing. Aviation companies,
including Eagle Creek aviation
in Indianapolis. First we get
Center northern in Annapolis
which is a reliever airport and
then the first wing jet center
Frankfort Indiana as well as
the tables get better. I also
own a main as you a
chartered management company
also called for swing so
use that Lot so. I'm here today
to request.
Space in the at number one to
expand my business.
To use for basically aircraft
management aircraft maintenance
and story Jeff of doing this
right.
I first want to
the staff of the airport
authority for help in And that
working with this very we
developed this and specifically
to headed to Luke. Thank you
Heather lot of phone calls back
and forth make sure we had
the proposal in on time and for
presentation ready to do so
thank you to her a lot of
emailing back and forth.
The criteria that the board set
out in the us. Proposal
is list
In the proposal and the it's
the cattery categories of that
will define
the decision-making process or
the use of the premises.
The quality the development the
proven record success of the of
the applicant financial
capability references and then
propose lease terms
professionalism and
presentation. I
thought today's best time to do
that use of time would be not
to go back to the presentation
or the proposal regarding
provided you that May be answer
some of these criteria,
directly and
that's where I get I plan to do
that real quickly.
Who is David jet center I'm the
founder I live here and in
Naples of at halftime
gray Oaks is outside the city
limit been here since 2006 open
Naples jets entered 2007.
I believe we're the largest
private employer at the airport
with about 42 employees.
A full-time employees plus part
time. And the team all here
we've been doing I've been
doing this 42 years.
Not rookie. I have a 135 years
of aviation operations and
management experience sitting
in that seat over there so
we're well experience in all
phases of
of the airport operation.
Air aircraft made this aircraft
management.
In an aircraft sale, so that's
a that's my team and they will
be on site.
Naples jet
Most of you was a hanger built
by a predecessor who got in
trouble with the airport
authority by selling fuel.
The airport took over the
property in 2004 5. I don't
remember the exact date we
bought the
rehabilitated it had that we
had its best as we had mold the
loss of
problems, but a million dollars
refurbishment and we steadily
grown our from 2007 to now
the change in the business.
Uh sorry. Well, I copy care.
This is our trend is
actually bet Craig is architect
met.
And the of them up in a This is
a rendering of the hangar
construction and offices that
we're going
to build it and the Naples
style. Quite frankly very
similar earlier prisoner in
size is about 25,000 square
feet of hangar space.
Whether I divide the center
with a fire wall or not quite
frankly, it's a lot depends on
the farmer for the same issue
he's got.
The fire. If you I have a
building bigger than 20 o'clock
1500 you have to have active
suppression. You May we May
have to have it anyway. And the
fire wall May cost more than
suppression so I have made that
decision either. Hangar
going summer side ransomware
size the buildings he is unable
style get into that just a
second.
The site we have and I can do a
little pointing I think with
this of told me right here a.
Our current is here.
And we're
importing the pointer that's
the 3.77 citation point
building that going has are
how's our maintenance at this
point. Hangar 3
a poll by a 3 is part of that
building complex
as used for storage. Hang this
building which was no here the
as the seal more hangar, we
purchased in 2015. It's fall.
Aircraft we both manage an
aircraft that we maintain we
will at some all over
maintenance over that hangar.
I think and then use this that
we're talking about building
for the manage airplanes.
We currently additional.
Well is this a hanger just
being built right now is the
Gulf Coast reactionary with
that I think right.
That was a regular in my space
eisold that when well does it
matter now but to go back and
have the bidding for now, but
that's why so that space and I
read this hangar from you now.
We caught hangar 5 it's at 3.99
staycation point Tucker.
I think it is and we're
proposing that was my hangar
bill to give that back to the
city if they want to have not
only that by continually sit at
your your choice. So.
And it that well the real quick
use the premises real quick.
I do what I do now i
manage airplanes, I maintain
airplanes I charter aircraft.
I do store airplanes.
The airplanes that Ickes store.
And offer stories to are not
us.
It ranks space. I usually have
on of almost exclusively have a
maintenance
management agreement minimally
so the airplanes are bringing
here.
And putting in the hangars are
being maintained at our
facility and we think a great
job instantly are up
our business is growing.
At all locations. The demand is
changing from aircraft
repair 2 aircraft modification
Hughes Electronics.
The the space we need is for
larger cabin aircraft we have
to larger aircraft coming very
soon and we don't really have
space the large cabin airplanes
or what we
really are a that those face
for. I mean im Bricklin
commander service in rare
produces both large and small
airplanes there you'll see a
reference letter your package
that the President Of ember
here has a included for me he
would like me to take over.
The larger aircraft maintenance
for every year we simply do not
have space at this juncture.
I through this
and here just to show you the
2 aircraft to hear the large
cabin airplanes that are that
need this type of hangar space
the left airplane is a Falcon
900 the right as it is a
Gulfstream 5.50.
I think you guys know, but I
discovered is that came out to
second ago.
The aircraft weight
limit here is is
75,000.
The g 5.15 g 6.50 operate its
95,000 gross takeoff weight,
but
each have a service bulletin
where they can operate at
75,000 give the information to
the pilots. The crew have
operate that level so we will
have 6 50's at this airport.
We have to 6 50's that would
like to be here.
If they want me to vanity
airplane on one of their they'd
only a manager that I just
don't want to be a hanger air
that's not my business.
Well the can of development.
The hanger steel will be this
same companies but up the Gulf
Coast anger that Golden giant
buildings out of Ohio they
built 9 hangar farming. They
have architects and they legal
to be a contract and state of
Florida that experience here
they're building right
now so they work with the Kerry
keven and the airport Airport
staff in an in depth.
The site development will be
the current the same Site
engineering firm that the
airport authority uses. I can't
remember the names Kelly's
coming e g solutions
e g solutions thank you.
Though that all the site
development. It will be us
similar height is above the
fema requirement, I think it's
I thought was
7 half. But that is summer that
with the with the 101 slope
down to the taxiway and it
won't have one row for 13 roof.
So I think both
both Africans are talking to
similar size hangar. I think
it's important that we talk
about you know new development
here what we want to look like.
I think we all like the
Naples style. I like a neck
breaking up a little bit and
talk about the style he
selected for the for this
building and what about
the mhk style has become very
popular. I think most of you
know.
Is is it buildings here but you
have to sta. 2 minutes, maybe
we don't have much time.
Good morning. For the record my
name is Matthew
Craig with mhk architecture
planning.
A 9.70 miles 6 Avenue souths us
we 200 city of Naples a
I was delighted when people
jet senator approached us and I
think that the main reason that
in the first 5 minutes of her.
First meeting is. It said when
their customers come and go
they wanted their customers to
feel like they were in Naples
and not seek p or some other
place in how can we achieve
that so we thought through you
know the hanger itself be a
metal building very clean
white. A box.
I'll tell you they have clean
is hangars that I've seen a
very impressed.
The architectural component
Oval Office component a waiting
area area to get a coffee and
so forth.
Outside along with the parking
areas. Will Well landscaped
meeting all the at all the f a
requirements and an a
requirements of the building me
all that in a requirements.
We are no stranger
to the city of Naples process
that design review board and so
for so we we'll have
under control that the style
architecture the building
really wanted to have it
reflects uh oh you know that
hey I'm home I'm in Naples and
ah this
is what the houses in my
neighborhood sort of feel like
but a more commercial clear
like we did with the Hyatt
Hotel born April square or
maker but also around the
airport. Even a little break
bridge structure that
currently connects the Naples
there the uh the Gordon River
Greenway to the city of Naples
has a structure similar to this
that we design recently so
we are we are pleased
to be a part of this it's just
there's been a great
company to work with and we
hope you go there direction if
you have any questions, I'm
happy to answer those 4.
>> Well as photos apart just
mention that the the road and
parking placement
in this rendering is that the
road is in the place as
proposed Kerry keys design.
We would anticipate
of we're going to extend pop
and Lane to that in
coordination with average the
us. The winner site too.
It will be some coordination
there. The only a rent
abatement we've asked for is if
the site to doesn't develop
quickly that you
Laos of a given that and the
until were reimbursed for half
caused by a
well remember to recite number
2. We go directly comparable
about out of time here.
The company itself I
have been or 10 years. I know
most of You know I
very proud that group I've got
my my
Solid 40 years continuous
growth
we have a lot of long-term
employees. We've won the
Diamond award for training in
excellence more than a dozen
years in a row.
We sell to My main its clients,
my management clients in the
hangar Class a are 280,000
gallons worth of fuel
purchasing the airport
authority and they over billion
dollars so far
2006 2018. We are we do
represent a number of
aircraft manufacturers and
builders and will have and I
think we're doing we're doing
aircraft yet make this on this
airport when airplane brakes on
the runway or has a problem.
We get that call when they when
you need the airplane as it
like go out a flat tire on the
ramp. We respond 24 hours a
day. I think we've been good
citizens here in a proven our
worth.
We
currently bike on the a 160
total employees this project
will add 8 to 10 right
away just just but the physical
size that an additional
maintenance and what it
will bring with managed
aircraft. We believe that it
could at 20 to 25 I
think that will jobs within 3
to 5 years. And aircraft
technician jobs. Are in the 50
to 75 range pilots are in the
90 to one 50 range.
i have
the cash to start the project
and I have a good left a
commitment from Centennial bank
there's a letter in my proposal
from the President Pablo that
to as the mortgage
on one of my buildings now and
we've got a relationship with
him we've had since they were
they were partners banking and
stonegate bank and now central.
If you've been Centennial bank.
So that sets
that situation, I've included a
number of references in our
proposal.
Without re gonna come pull this
part of that a pretty well
known this business.
I've included a reference the
aircraft owners and pilots
Association President Mark
Baker who I know
personally servants, several
volunteer boards. I feel about
for for them, I style my
representation, the community
and my ethics. The the
in very aircraft. Here in
Florida and now
they they voted no for Florida
a name me one other key
strategic partner time on their
planning committee and they
would like to sit do the bigger
aircraft. We don't have space
for him. And I'd like to
Most of us know don't look back
in. He was here for the board
for I think 18 years that
factory that Mr. Higgins Griese
business into one of the
authorities largest and most
able candidates. The company
scrupulously followed the rules
and regulations of the
authority enhanced the attract
and activists of its sites.
There are a
number of other references in
our in our poll. You're in a
asking for is up on our
completion of the
Falcon lean extension of
parking lot that I until
unreimbursed by developers
adjacent to the red be abated
the lease rate we would
propose. We would definitely
support that the airport
authority should attach a 20%
premium for all the runway
facing air site leases
being on
the next to the runway has
value. The people see it if I
don't get this item want to be
penalised because I'm not going
to have it. So I believe that
should be a premium. I would
propose a support
paying a premium for that site
as long as everybody else was
on the on the new leases pay
the same. And the other 3 d a I
think.
>> You've got to fill use a
bring you we're we're going to
be I think we have a set rate
right now it's a
but is it.
Believe your proposal included
$0.48 per square foot it says
it 40 at what what what's the
what's the standard for bodies
rally fact now when the rfp.
>> The minimum was $0.40 per
square foot. Yeah, the current
is 40's 40 sense of what you're
charging I I think everybody
decides with the leaves are all
set at I
think that ought to be set a
premium. I I propose 20%
obviously out it's a gauche
avoid it, but I would think you
should do it all when they
renew. And we're the best a 30
year term.
i think that answering
questions.
In addition to our
you just a a.
>> In addition a need to be.
Additional space for expansion
of your business you.
Just stated that you got to
have that location on the
border from a a.
Publicity is that.
But your position were
in coming up. Credit would be
able to to see your
locations that are part of it
too.
I think it's location location
location. Yes, Sir.
The.
There have been a number of
failed. Aircraft
service businesses that are
tacked back.
We're difficult to get a taxi
to I I can't say one plane
Masters or something of that I
can't think of it couldn't get
back to the hangar. So they
went out of business. So yes,
they'll and vision but to
the runway site airside is
important and valuable. Yes
Sir.
>> You mention that letter from
Centennial bank is a commitment
that when I read this it says
this letter is not and should
not be interpreted as a
comeback.
>> There you can enjoy make it
specific applications, no lease
here but He wrote a strong as
he can
write without me having
anything to do it. Youhat day
that the money is there.
Well that's my qstion is I
mean are you I mean you look
very from what I can hear you
see of your current operations
in.
This you know want to make sure
that when I read that that kind
of most contradict a little bit
what you said firms would make
sure everything's. It's a legal
disclaimer he had to put in ok.
I promise
you a kind of money is
arranged. I have a
backup bank as well as it got
closer to I'm building a number
hangers right now as well, I'm
building at 2 hangars
Indianapolis net the financing
to all ranged ok.
Substantial cash to to handle
the beginning of that night are
portion that is probably that
probably borrow 2 thirds out
gas company that ring. That's
kind of what we don't know
previous ones country.
Commissioner lenhart one of the
term so far.
Standard lease of course when
you have an existing facility.
If they. She going to default
for financial considerations
obviously the authority as
remedies take back a hangar
right in the construction
situation, there is risk some
more recently. Past couple of
leases there's been a
requirement to provide either a
letter of credit or a
construction bond prior to
construction.
If anything should
happen whether be a financing
problem or some other okay,
this truck shun.
So you've got things
and put in place to as
protection from that will be
part of this lease is what
action a cut. And we're fine
with that of on
was plight.
Across that everybody is all
right I just picked being
picked out a right. That's
going to pick on I have to ask
these
know it's it's fair effect.
But you know that that is a
situation Chris Benz that that
could happen somebody gets you
know I have to hang a living
there now have built. Yes, I
get it.
And also I just got to make
comment that you these 2
hangars are going to be
very visible from the runway.
So I I think coordination
between the 2 winners of these
2 sites is I I know that
I would hope
that whoever wins site too
would work with us and we have
some are looking so you don't
have disproportionate looking
and we want to look back we
want the Naples look for
everybody right.
>> You talked about
the facility and
and mention that. You mentioned
for your jets. I know that you
have a in their proposal a 25
foot tall.
Well the door system.
I
thought so not proposals has uh
it's incorrect to be 28 that's
the typo.
>> Okay it did take 25 so my
question to you is going to
college eyes. President
Consider we had a few patients
to that.
And there are you
know it's state of the art of a
new aircraft coming on line new
corporate aircraft coming on
line that would we need
tall indoors.
You're the gulf strained right
now 25 a 26 feet. And we're
trying to put a satellite
receiving dollars on them again
at another foot to that.
You have to have a least a foot
clearance on top of We're
building 28 foot doors.
Bottom roller doors and that's
that's the style of your we're
probably going to use.
>> What is
the distance from the front of
your hangar to the edge of the
tax Elaine object.
>> I don't know dk you recall
that.
And it is definitely all this
is we've built before with
other authorities. We know
there might be some given taken
to integration with
Tory utilities the road
placement all signing that I
think so.
What we do is that
the I think free area. We are
good to build up the eu high.
>> And that's your play here.
But this was that prescribed
area here.
The footprint here that's why
we actually utilized a
putting the building. Office
component where the job in the
road against there. Okay.
>> We get the road in the
saces the proposal showed
the Dr. Extension.
>> And the death of the hangar.
I'm assuming car leads to the
size of the aircraft that
you're thinking about.
>> Yeah that right the comment
that the best side these
airplanes have about a 105 foot
we spend a
so a 120 by a 110 is that big
thing get and you was the under
17 if you can if you're going
to use a a. Separate a wall so
in that been hooked well for
something. So 120 by what the
one on I want to wait with some
number.
>> The cylinder this to the
funding question. I think
that's all ahead. Any other
questions.
>> Matt you
in Breyer is requested for you
to take on some of the larger
aircraft maintenance what does
that mean.
>> That they 3 sizes of
airplanes, the fee knows that
were that we see in airport and
very billion on your ramp with
net jets and others.
The neck size they they They
now call the Prater series.
That is an airplane we
currently don't work on in the
30's in some sales they make
a larger airplane which is the.
I called it's called the c
series. It's basically the
legacy 600 legacy 6.50. There
are underserved.
They have facility here in the
2 facilities and Florida.
One in Fort Lauderdale's and
one in Melbourne. They'd like
to get out of the large
aircraft maintenance in both of
those facilities there ask us
to to take a look at doing that
certain business case we have
to decide to meet a million
dollars and tooling for each of
those. So based on your part
polls all year.
Conceptually looking to serve
that market which would the
something that's not presently
offered that's correct. We
don't have space now for that
we have to class looking at
Gulfstream so we do not remains
and we would manage those
airplanes. A prophetic ruining
the services.
Thank you thank you very much.
Thank her.
Are we ready to.
Just for personal one. This is
Janet Parshall one yet.
Jump right in there. He wanted.
>> To say and we can for a
couple of reasons on nothing
negative. These you know that.
We've got business for that
front some period of time.
We we got on really Joe o
what he's got to
who was she of to the hardest
part protect you Naples.
Uh this is a couple months ago,
I guess o I was impressed how
poisoned
an orderly and everything
looked. I don't really think
about
aircraft maintenance season.
Experiences would use of it.
There's and most of those are
true, she said.
But his training and everything
looked at it. Wilmington.
Now ferntree life the a
the designer that he proposing
for the facility.
So are our guests to those of a
major the reasons are with him.
>> I think what you're saying
is you would rank who says or
it too.
If right. The former for him I
were if you want.
Signs members to it.
>> And I guess I would also say
you know they are both very
good presentations and I think
they both
both companies could.
Could do a good Developing the
site. But my my suggestion
would be Naples their center
simply because
no offense to we we they're
known quantity for us they've
been you know
in Naples airport for quite a
while we know what they can do
what they can perform so that
would be my purse. That would
be number one or the other
would be number 2. To
clarify believing needles jet
center.
And I say there's a maple
general sorry you're right.
You're able to get sent us what
I meant to say.
I've got the same feeling.
>> Is passionate, I'm a
passionate about airplanes that
the just.
Hedges that just slightly 2
neighbors. And that Naples jet.
And that's one of the more
thing.
What I want one thing I liked
about market was their offer
$0.55 a square foot. It was
very generous of that.
Shooting Mabel's jet center.
>> The curve with what these
gentlemen have
I I believe I sank on this
tough times for His
proposal and flexibility.
I think that's really important
because he showed a lot of
flexibility when we asked him
questions and his agreed to
modifications but I would agree
that the ranking should be
first for Naples jet center and
2nd for.
>> They deserve and that is my
vote was based on
personal one. Something May
come up National right to it
really just talking about for
some time.
This is all about porcelain.
Well we're just talking a
person want. So we're in a move
to press them to in a minute.
So not to worry.
>> Do we
need a motion for this.
>> I would really recommend
that ok. All right do I have a
For the ranking of parcel won.
>> And just to clarify a is the
motion that you are proposing
that Naples Jen center be
ranked number one for parcel
one in Marco hangers lcv ranked
number 2 for first it is thank
you.
>> And though the 2 when we get
to one I mean to 2
when I think about too.
Time it into a really talk
about it will be what will
offer too. The reason that were
slipped to also get so they'll
have an opportunity to come
back up and speak out to
present a threat.
Oh you did I'm sorry ending
here
all in favor signify by saying
aye aye. She cares unanimously
thank you. Ok so we will move
to parcel to.
Call it hangers.
Simple parcel to.
No one of our clangers
submitted a proposal to build a
aviation business complex
partial to and currently
offering $0.55 a square foot
and negotiable at that.
Comey own an f b on the Emory
Connecticut.
Same thing offers you know on
hangar space
flight school lobbies and it I
don't we also sell fuel
additive when I can sell fuel
line here.
Been a pilot for over 20 years.
An aircraft owner
I moved to mark about 3 years
ago.
And based in Mark all. I fly a
lot of people say got in on a
full screen. Well.
People's when it gets so
excited to put propose and I
did that's a folks see that.
And that it about myself came
from the us and Europe. I can
use the same show twice.
You know I don't I don't want
to buy what you hear. There as
Bella's anyway, but
>> sudden to mark about 3 years
ago
keep neck will be standing, I
you know I said I but in
Naples.
I'm working with the wreck to 2
which I work with them before.
25 different hangers before
so it's not my first rodeo.
On No you guys don't know if
you know I've done stuff like
this before.
What I like about them is like
I said before they do the
building and your door sorts of
never go so wrong. You can only
blame or cop instead of the
other one.
And I'm also working
with the homeless team. A low
carrying is going to be a
project manager and engineer
foot this parcel also.
I believe look has done.
Everything read enables
he knows Naples very well, he's
done numerous other airports.
I believe there is no one
better than him for this
project. He knows there.
The regulations and everything
about it. And now we'll have a
look come up and talk
about the site planned. And
then afterwards, few folks have
been questions like that.
If Oregon
again look carrier.
>> a whole month as Fort Myers.
We're going to my
discussion on the on the hanger
specifics,
just a bit. The interested to
know one of the favorite
hangars that I design was among
the Big Bang are currently
owned by hurts that was a very
that was kind of a a statement
there.
The first one
sided where the condominium
work while the enterprise back
in 1990's.
Are the bottom right hand
corner. And then.
A little bit more recently the
a c c a a sheriff's office only
at but their helicopter.
>> With regards to
this particular parcel. It's a
little bit smaller than
partial want it's uh it's it's
it somewhat constrained.
It's about a
51,000 a 1.2 acres. We are able
to put in the 24. A 1000 square
foot.
Higher
the were we're constrained
with the frontage at a 100
feet. So if you are to put
rolling doors on your.
Going to be losing about 20
foot of opening snow years
down to their opening of 80
feet. We're looking to utilise
of by full doors which gives
us. Mason that the rolling
doors.
Gives us greater flexibility.
But there is a limitation on
the size that they can actually
be
fight it.
Again here going to be
providing
about 1800 square feet of a
friend again we're constraining
the access to
the apron so that it's a little
bit more controlled. Staying
out of the attacks actually not
get free area for tax Lady too.
The buildings will be divided
again without fire suppression
wall. A
they will be provided
with all of parking and the
office areas that include
waiting and restrooms the type
of facilities that we have
propose
and a consistent with the
minimum standards. They can we
will be extending the roadway
along with the water disorder
electrical utilities to support
a Sony
as per jet center.
You know we'll be working with
them in terms of coordinating
that that effort.
Are very
a rudimentary in that they they
kind of show what we're going
to be looking the.
The the hunger buildings
themselves are the engineer
metal buildings, they don't
they there's not a lot of to
them you want to keep it simple
you don't want to stand out.
Again we'll be identifying the
use of the by fold that
because of the constraint and
with and the structural
members in the in the building
itself Republican be limited to
about a 90 foot.
Opened clear opening. So we're
not going to be able to get the
very largest aircraft assuming
we go with this I Russia's
indicate a willingness to say
maybe we want to put in one
opening just as we discussed it
the other which then we could
go a little bit higher using
the role indoors but for
purpose of this discussion and
our initial proposal.
We're looking a 20 foot door
thatfoot clear opening
again the finish floor
elevation would be consistent
with tying into the existing
taxi ways ticks to tax Lane
and meeting the fema
regulations. The roof pitches
one on 12 very similar to
jet center as proposed in
office height of a of 20 feet.
It's going to be serviced the
public. Meet
all standards.
We're looking to work with
whoever get the other parts.
Well the quality. Her can
resist and hangars we'll meet
all and in I'm standing.
Lisa 30 years $0.55.
These freight which because
have a point but civil.
Mangia myself.
We have the finance. There's no
baby no no to.
Effect of business marking
plan.
Service the public.
Exceptional team design low
Kariya I
quality construction material.
And we need all and and Locust
and its safety it party
and the increase
revenue to Naples airport.
Last one us $0.55 the street.
I know what you folks don't
know.
I'm very interested in this
project.
And it's hard sometimes to take
some hey you know what I don't
always fun and this and that
then I get the point but
everybody's got us thought a
summer.
I appreciate you guys taking
the title of my proposal.
>> Yeah
you mentioned earlier in this
prison that you built over some
roughly 25 angers whatever.
Do you still on 25 angry life
sold them all so I went and I
sold them. Kinds of 55 might or
might have a cold.
Buildable were corrected to
before. Also the board and
then.
Use the run tonight slowly,
everybody was kind of biting of
Isis hole are they on Danbury
are there different. Louis Van
Plans to do that.
But these are was well Mike
list yet believe what I'm
looking to his is put it
business using can print
revenue and to Naples so we
could be
you know neighbors can make
more money at the same terms of
business for me.
I'm looking to bring a business
here don't raise revenue to
name.
And it's like look talk about
it we have to take this this
building just make one hangar.
We'll do that if
we have the client to come in
like I mentioned. We did have
to find the parcel.
And so while uh uh huh it opens
up a investment, you know if
that's possible. And if if we
have to just make one huge and
their space will do so.
>> Talk a little bit more about
that talk a little bit more of
that.
>> As always you know.
Place we can run ads and
market this off.
And the difference between
have.
But the defense I think is the
cost to build the because we.
Because I figured.
Man what a bigger one. Well
maybe change, but it's all up
to us get in to buy.
And to add something to that
there there is.
Constraints and looking at that
you Britain yet the hangar
building.
Various 95 feet.
So when you bring an aircraft
out for fueling you've got to
make sure that that aircraft is
outside of the so you can to
kind of constraint in terms of
aircraft sizes so if you were
to put in yell 7. When some 37
in there.
>> It's just not going to be
able to heal. So you you've got
a look at all the various
considerations.
>> And go ahead Chris one
looking think he's probably
more so Lou that the death of
the hangar.
Willing to reduce the death of
the hangar that is.
It's not just the are.
But if you if you get to one
unit. Let me make it is it.
How high do you think will be
the maximum door.
>> does it matter
to us whether a divided.
Good too. Sections of the bill
does have one section. What is
our our as long as they're not
drawn.
10 in a
5 bag are you.
It is ours it will work.
>> Well we do and maybe this is
one additional question.
You mentioned in your Pryor
parcel I believe it was a
charter tenant yeah
and is that still an
option here right side is
enough no case. This layout is
more suitable to in
private. Lee Stuart aircraft,
not.
And are there but the business
want a larger hangar with a
business for Naples
probably lean towards the
singular.
Is it possible, yes,
but then your neighbors, your
compete for ramp space when you
pull the aircraft out pending
up on how many you got the move
aircraft around you might they
might try to temporary least
ircraft on the tax Elaine
and that's going then lead to a
problem with some of the other
neighboring hangers so yes,
it's accurate to say it's
constrain site but.
Delicate balance
and trying to make all these
things work together so apart
from his stamp or a devotion
worker.
Look at you the same got well
we're probably looking at odds.
They want it.
Workers say a demand. The size
of aircraft are going to fight
about it. The event is greater.
Oh okay, only in that one.
But also the fire divide it
in reactor 2 sides. What is the
he did as compared with Warren
yet from one big coming m.
Its sister or numbers,
their games for time. Of course
the worse it is All of these
people are applied. Word is
much on a visit the broke
and that's certainly
understandable. We want to be
successful. We don't want to
hurt somebody
you know who's on successor,
we've got. We will be shared
some of his from Sir. That's
world.
But by the same token the
logistics have to.
Questions that are asked to
respond Korea. But in on the
stem. What difference it made
the us is as long as the going
green major problems racial
obviously rainiest this
question also you you intend to
manage the property as well
right, yes, and so after
its lease, it you'll be working
with tenants it.
Prospective tenants indicate a
preference for an individual
unit or
do they mind a common space
well.
This what if this gets Lisa
somebody would be one company
one beat per cent.
Would have the whole hangar.
Well they would just have don't
you want to cut one side.
One company won't be to Sept.
The less had expired.
>> Holly enterprises.
Good morning. I.
I'm
Howard Merle quality
enterprises, apf development,
the 2827 so relief plane over
gray Oaks.
Like the first of all.
Thank the commission and the
staff let us participate in
this a solicitation give us the
opportunity to be here.
Yes
actually yesterday was a
controlling County doing
something similar to this
sitting down talking to
somebody not for aviation
before another business
venture. The one thing that we
came to a three-man on was it
a good business venture knees
be a win-win for all parties
and if I do my job right here
today at the end.
At the end this presentation.
You should be an agreement that
where the right party to work
with you and the people
Southwest Florida. We provide
presentation in 2 or 3 parts.
First part is talking about 3
that meeting the requirements
of the solicitation just the
highlights of it and we're not
going over the whole proposal
is you want to go or death.
Then there's some drawings and
Matt from a
had to leave, but he also did
Ares also.
And then questions for you
guys.
First of all it takes time tell
you who we are.
It when you got up this morning
can make coffee. The water that
you're to work transportation
contractor with the water you
drink this morning most likely
we touched you though water
treatment plant the Wells or
the pipes that you doing if you
play golf. The other day during
the dry season. The irrigation
systems and everything we've
done that what when I drove
here today. I drove across
Central Avenue that that
beautification project with the
roundabouts everything we we
did that.
You don't do it this weekend
because of the weather but you
went out you vote last week and
looked all the big houses from
the water. We dredge most of
those canals and in addition to
that we use aviation alive.
I moved here in 1994. And a
watch our planes that out on
the ramp that air attack in
Naples or they can some inseon
one summer decide there's got
to be a better way to what
we're doing now because a what
an one much ramp space.
And actually when you want to
win over to the facility.
There's a little metal building
that you guys had little that I
had garden Whitman in tractors
in the other side the offices.
What a match she would do can
for the first time. It looked
like they'd cleaned out of
closet. Mayor
So you guys have really come a
long way, but we could we got
together and work and in a
proxy 1996. That we work with
look Carol that project and
other people.
And we did the first apf
development private development
for you guys that we did
the bill for hangers and
6,000 square foot office space.
And that that it that's got our
planes inside
and other people's planes
inside stuff like that. One
long after we did that we were
trying to build something for a
plea was Clark aviation the
freight company and
they want in our facility.
So they bought ours for from us
and then we went over the rail
Road. Another sluss Taishan
with you guys. Pf 2 next 12
years.
So and then and that was
probably around 2002 thousands
to uh I forget
and then around I lo
2006 7 something like that we
we started apf 3 which were
finishing up now that started
office 12 more hangers but the
dew recommendations from staff
and everything that the last
building so that the planes are
getting bigger bigger. They're
coming here. So we increased
the sides is from a process 60
by 60 hangers the 90 by night
and that were condition that up
now and that project a
we've self-funded that
ourselves we cable and thing
like that. In addition to that
in the meantime what we're
doing all that that
construction for ourselves and
the airport. We did a lot of
construction for you. We've
we've put.
The fuel far that we modified
the fuel farm, the backup
generators here. We just
finished or in the
process of finishing taxiway b
don't other
taxiways would build a bunch of
tea hangers here. Cleared the
all the woods out front
interest to the commercial
facility.
Rental facility in the car wash
We you know we have a lot of
experience here at the airport
in addition to we do
much
more work outside the airport
and in Naples and what it what
what benefit is that you guys
will first of all. We know what
your we've been here for a long
time. You know we know how to
be a good neighbor. We know the
badging system
we know the security. We know
the design review, we know they
would hate we just as well as
we know things it took us 7
months to get that last
permanent that didn't count the
design review board,
okay, so 7 months of going back
and forth different Well, fi
restriction all that so that
takes a you know a contractor
that's been here. You know over
20 years
7 months and knows the system.
It's difficult to take a a new
person lot longer to do that.
The other advantage is we do
most of the workers selves we
all the paving the cancri a
a lot of the work we don't rely
on it. You know one of the
overhead doors break, we one of
our mechanics out and the
candidates trucks and laptops
we have over 200 employees.
The use of the premises.
When we look at the promise of
the
week as we look at both piece
of property. But for what we
want to do we didn't really
think the bigger piece we
thought was more
suited for an f the than what
we're doing a large fbo soar
like what you see Naples jet
center. Do now so we looked at
the other piece of property and
and we did something similar we
divide the building up all
right. We didn't do it for fire
suppression or something like
that but more for versatility
okay because the
when you see are going to we're
going to get to the sketches
and stuff like that. But it
gives you more opportunity.
And diversity with the have
down the road you guys are
going to.
Somebody else that you're in it
too. So you can put 2 different
businesses in it. The offices
are designed to the all be used
to one or 2 different also and
it also prevents a lot to hang
a rash because it would you
have that big hangar and you
move in planes in and out of
it's just for for those signs
planes. We didn't feel like
jets like the gulf stream's and
stuff like that. We're
we're going to work because out
to free year. And and what we
did by drawing there.
You see that as a counterpoint
to that one in the upper right
hand corner on the drawing.
That's a g 6 that this is all
the scale.
We've got the software to do
all this to scale. I is not
that I was in the state where I
have to the tail of the plane
partially in hangar showing if
the nose is right at the object
free area. That's where that
the tail the plane's going to
be is still be sticking.
And that's with that hangar boy
being 100 feet wide
with offices in front of it.
We modified it slightly we're
open to suggestions. But we
went ahead and it was the
original drawings 165 feet
we've increased to 206 75.
Because you only need 50 feet
fire clears between the new
building that's being built.
But we did we did.
Pull it back some in order get
the
extra offices, which everybody
wants nobody wants the box
inside a the office inside the
hangar anymore.
We we we wanted to put planes
that wouldn't be a nod to free
year. But what happens is.
The owner says hey Poma
the pilot full the plaintiff
you about a b there 08:00am he
shows up at 10:00am it's been
set up to the whole time.
So I've got my plane pulled out
there Steve over Naples
jetsetter says hey I'm putting
it might play out from behind
you guys write in the way I
can't do that. So they were
open the door sticking the
thing back in or worst case
when the guy lands and then he
goes pull into his hangar in
the back of his 3 hangars that
this would be in the lay of the
hurts. The new hangar this
being built in the one that
that Steven them operate out of
now the small one in the back
of your head. I could see him
by trying to text or call and
say hey somebody is going to be
the plane bounced up with the
rain so that's that's kind of
why we chose this.
This I mean we changed the
building the offices from this
and what you'll see on the
drawings further down. But the
hanger sides is like that.
The uses of the hangar. I mean
we really what the hangar.
For us. A.
Part one 35,
mostly for internal use we do a
lot of travel we do a lot to
airport work in the Southeast.
We worked in Puerto Rico for 5
years we work over Panama law
that doesn't the water tower in
Guantanamo Bay and we use
aviation for that. So that's
that's
we're the customer for ours.
And we can come back to that if
you have anything else. But
well on but I don't want to run
out of time.
The financial benefits. Dan a a
no
the rent is such a small
component of this only put
$0.45 and you do that time to
think but the part that you
know the are you guys really
going to generate revenue is
off fuel sales.
Okay, and and what we're
looking to do different
increase are up for us because
we want to add another 100
people are our operations and
they will all be able work
here. So we want to add some to
similar to midsize jet like the
sovereign and a larger
turboprop up the beach 1900.
What we did was
on here you can see when we
took some very a conservative
numbers will use $300 a year.
You know like net jets and then
fly like 7.50 or something like
that.
And did some fuel at at $4 a
gallon. And if you sit there
projected revenue produces 2
planes and that ripped would be
almost half half a million
dollars a year.
The other thing about the
financial benefit and this
isn't necessary to enable us to
the community and which I kind
of consider to take everybody
into consideration.
It all kind of works out for
everybody. Everything we do now
like what we pay through
taxiway d. We have a paper at
the time we bought it zoellick
25 in the country that runs
bite Robotics,
somebody like a would carry or
s the.
It's all put in the model and
it's all put in and that paver
Hayes
off total stations, they
actually follows kind of we're
watching that that go. I mean
the people don't tell the paper
what to do anymore. The
bulldozers all like that
the motor graders, a like that
can't Caterpillar which for a
big user up. Its goal is to be
operator list by 2025. So
I mean it might seem unusual to
you guys. But hey in
10 years from now it wouldn't
surprise me
if you taking new driverless
uber you know passed by our
operator list construction site
not seeing people will be there
she got to have the technical
people and then jump into your
pilotless plane. It might be
scary. But how things have
changed the iPhone and but what
I'm saying is with the
equipment that we use. Now we
do a lot of work in this area.
But we do a lot of work outside
this and you know we pave a lot
of runways and unity is not
enough in the area. We use the
airplanes to get the people
there.
Back when we worked in of a cut
from Katrina New Orleans who
worked for 5 years there.
We had 2 jets, one people back
and forth every week
just to get to me just because
when you have a disaster
like that you go working there,
there's many people there work
you've got to take your own
people there, especially when
you start get involved with all
this technology. So that's
truly what we're trying to do
we we need we need the hangar.
So that we can add another 100
jobs.
The folly of the development.
You know we've been I I've
worked in this airport after
the Hurricanes I picked up
rowling doors by full doors.
All different things we've seen
everything that that kind of
destroys the hangars here a
foot planes right side up and
work with Ron and
it all in. I'm not a big fan of
the rolling doors, not a big
fan of the the by full doors,
what happens in the hurricane.
When you get that negative
pressure. The roof lives up
okay. And in the rolling door.
The bottom is hanging in the
air. And you do have pins
the locket if that if people
remember a lock it or and if
the pens are long enough for
the bill that the the Ritz much
as 6 inches. And then when that
wind blows it that's what we're
picking up grow indoors.
You know
500 feet from what you know the
hangar. The by full doors are a
little bit better but we're
working on this. The single
panel doors
that are hydraulically operated
so even if
the guy doesn't put the pins in
there that that you'd have to
offset those Hydraulic
cylinders which a win would
never do. You know other things
we do is we increased the
concrete stuff.
Higher specifications so you
don't have that spider cracking
down the road. We put
5 or mention it so you don't do
that the sub base underneath
that we use crush countries to
the sand that when they were
talking about that what
whatever we talk about how the
everything was going to flood
and we were fortunate enough
not to have it. He was that you
know that type of sub great
would resist the undermining
the new the hangars and stuff
like that. And that's I mean
there's a lot of other things
that through the years we've
changed in our hangers yet.
And we use local vendors.
Well I'm not Ohio are
wherever erected to but all
those people are we used in
steel metal buildings used them
all the time. Last hurricane
came a gutter strapper it.
They came down fixed, you know
and so and we
do that not only for the.
You know for the the metal
building but most of the
vendors we use a lot and we use
a lot of vendors locally so we
have a lot of I guess you'd say
poll, you know when people are
trying to do one hangar a new
one. You know if
we need to my to design
something
typically there when the design
duo designed built with us on a
much bigger prize.
Nhk was an architect which
he said he's doing the you
know the latest and greatest.
We also cut coordinate with the
Naples jet center so
ours is the same style is
theirs.
The financial capability of our
company.
I mean we do over $60 million a
year with the companies.
We have huge funding, you know
we do roads bridges.
We're We we've done of much of
aviation we just finished doing
a $25 million expansion Hilton
head but we extended the runway
for commercial traffic a lot of
other stuff.
We have a 20 to $20 million
paving contract at the Marine
Corps base open Buford a do
paving for them.
I mean really I mean this
project is what probably 2
or $3 million it pretty small
for us. It's a very important.
But financially it's it's I
mean we wouldn't the bar at the
one we're finishing up we're
not.
We and we do
understand with the costs or to
build here. It's not like we're
in or in this case. I can tell
you that you be in for a rude
awakening if you never built
anything here before. So we do
understand that.
References and we list.
We've and we do.
We've done over $60 million
worth of work and the airport
for you guys for.
Developers of over the 20
years. And we do more than that
every year construction.
I guess really uh I mean.
For questions a little bit
spend on I knew it.
Really
this get you guys do so in
parts of one of our that show
in the 2 buildings on it as
laid out for.
One on the right there.
And that's that show a
challenger 3.51 large midsize
jet.
That's that's the offices
and like I said the offices are
designs that you can.
You lock that door so
they want to do you so that the
rest of drought in the open.
Or you can use it always was I
think that a nice job on that.
That's an overhead to 2 side by
side in an example what they
could be.
That's a Frontage of the of the
office space like I said trying
to use what but the tract of in
southwest Florida.
Over 7. Craig to to to go.
Part of the unit 2.
That arms and you correct it.
2 roads would be yours.
Brett the space to the elders
that.
That's just that's uses of
example, what
you could put in there. At
least 2 of them would be ours
whether we use one or 2.
I mean I we've got numbers
you know to show you mine if
they will see from there.
But first us and that one is
citation x o and very 300 c j
one and I think that's another
siege, a one a. There's a those
are just some examples because
when we look at this we're
looking about our use
you know you know maybe 25
years down the road somebody
else we have this anger.
So we want to create something
that's take that great for
us, but a white whale for
everybody else.
>> I'm a little bit confused
about that too.
You talked a lot about you need
a facility for your own use.
But also in your. I didn't seen
in your proposal but in the
other parts, your presentation.
You have proposed uses
Charles a charter shuttle
service is with one committed
party is that uss at to you ok
and then and another when you
talk about the financial
benefits to the n a a you have
one charter midsize jet.
2 charted turboprops. Is that
us both us ok so that's not
okay so then what's the other
piece of this. The other side
of it.
Yeah.
Like weather weather weather.
The other side is used for
something else or whether it we
you know he's its tickets.
More for private planes whether
it's just you know we add
another player night.
We we have
a lot of contacts here. You
know we have another party this
interest in doing maintenance
out of it.
And we don't have any problem
seen about still enough.
>> Highest and best use a
specify for Kyra shul.
Intend to use it for your own.
>> We're putting it into an
apartment one 35 is also hoping
to the chart uses a charter
addition, so it would be your
aircraft that would be used as
charter.
Service available to the pump
exactly.
>> I mean that's I mean that's
deathly on the low side if you
if you if you look at numbers
for charter service isn't it
typical charter what's the run
the thing between 506 or ours.
The reason we use the low
amount of hours because
I just I wanted to to under
promise and over deliver.
You know I could around and
said oh we're going to 100 a
million dollars worth of fuel
sales a year but I don't I
don't want to do that was this
something that I think is a
minimal a realistic thing
to happen.
So then along with that with
you proposed to sell the other
unit were lease it out to
another business.
>> I wasn't looking to sell it.
I mean we've met with a you
know we were looking to use it
for the
commercial operations that you
guys requested.
And that's where I'm going to
I'm I'm thinking heist and this
uses well and wondering where
the revenue to date is is going
to come from.
To the airport. Yes. From us
would be from fuel sales right,
right
and rain threat of rent.
If you look at rates of smoking
has it all came over fly it a
small you
know it's to the size of the
property.
I spent fuel cells. Obviously
right ahead doesn't matter with
them here that we work up there
the signature but it but it's
how best you use the facility
that right.
>> Active it is or how idol it
is so.
That's what risk in the
question and what we're looking
to do just let you know is have
a plane leave taking crews to
different places
then the plane to pick up the
crews that are already at those
places and bring them back to
the round Robin. Both ways.
Said Sheriff, the
>> We've had a number
of enquiries from a charter
operators and aircraft
management companies that are
desperately some of the macbook
condo hangars and understanding
that they can't conduct their
this is from there. But the
store an airplane there May be
of a small office they pull air
after word of the f b o there
are a number of charter.
You're successful businesses
looking for
hangars that situated like
these pad sites are
and so are in 10 ton issuing
the r p for hysen that's used
for commercial operations was
with that.
To a degree it's and it's
nothing against q leader Howard
he does a great job with every
project he's done here.
It's just it's hard how do we
different if we're trying to
evaluate highest and best use.
He's getting used air this
hangers the aircraft for his
own business purpose in for
charter. We are not
we don't want to get involved
in splitting hairs and say how
many hours for this how many
hours for that in order to
determine compliance with the
minimum standards it's either
come that I consider a company
such as one of our other
corporate tenants to be private
that's private. It's not
offering services available to
the public where is a charter
company as a website phone
number call a son. It's just it
that's it I appreciate what
he's proposing is a hybrid
model.
Outside of our into.
>> I'd like to comment on
that I mean it will be a part
one 35 operation. I mean
quality will just the one of
the companies that use
customers it's not I mean we
have a company's this will be
in qualities name.
So I do beg to differ on that.
I
think the difference is I have
somebody that the you know that
willing to put 2 planes here
and in China and you not like
you said I hear a lot
about charter companies who
want to do stuff, I've been in
the aviation business for a
long time a lot and we'll talk
a lot about what they want to
do, but they don't have the
money to do it. Okay.
>> I found that
my experience to be less so the
case at Naples and more so the
case said perhaps some other
Mark. They certainly get called
tire kickers he retired and
here. So.
We're in the clients.
Well I understand the to some
kind of see how from the
airport.
If the revenue stream to the
airport.
That is the key
so yes, the airport authority
needs to be financially
self-sustaining but we also as
we just spoke about in the
strategic plan
need to ensure that word
responding to what the market
is providing an airport
facilities and services
is responding to customer to
and we know there's tremendous
demand for charter in this
smart.
And that's what we feel like
we're providing a me if we can
meet that standards by saying
we have the aircraft Washington
company in there too.
With that provides 0 fuel.
We could say that we've met
that standard by putting a
maintenance facility in there
which would add 0 fuel. So I
love and I'm thinking is what
we're proposing is a win-win.
New in that when those to the
way that you would oppose rent
was $0.45 a square foot is.
Right. So that is the
lowest propose for rent as
well. We're we're open to that
because it that such a minor
thing in the overall scheme of
it, I mean we need to act
the hangar space for that not
only the charter put to the to
move people in and out of
Naples
where do you currently operate
your aircraft. Right now what
we do were over Naples
jetsetter.
You have one aircraft currently
currently we've we had numerous
ones we probably had 3 of 4
jets here. 2 or 3 turboprops.
You depend on on the demand.
We have one jet now.
No no word up and up of an
airplane
that that that that that that's
for that that's more for
corporate
news we're no we're going to
I'm a got that that our jet is
not going in that's more for
corporate news, what's going on
here. And we're going by 2
points. You know and that's
what happened when charter.
Our charter that through
somebody else.
Come depends on the size of the
Plains.
>> Would you accept a
commercial only lease. That's
what you said that the way the
rules are written and just
clarify again.
And that's what I thought we
were doing.
And we have leases on other
pieces.
>> Their son out there.
It it says
Every kid here who chose the 2
people.
>> There's 2 is the Sunni the
Iranians receive responded to
the.
>> Naples
care center jet senator
responded the parcel parcel one
into right there now.
Just porcelain there which is
personal one.
They were just porcelain ok.
Trying to be fair do we have
any questions for Kiwi.
Good I'm here with so much.
Thank you for that opportunity
have you early.
But we're ready to
any questions for crestor we're
ready to do the ranking.
And some of them still.
>> His mind or used to say when
she was about 5 on the stand e.
And I.
>> I'm still sorting through it
myself.
The problem is that it is in
Atlanta. Israel he Mister Morel
even said as much.
So I think.
Marshall least that it would
commercial use that site.
Why saying that but commercial
in the sense that it would be
serving his own company, it's
gets down a splitting hairs and
uh.
Commercial user with a
marketing and advertising to
them public.
I don't think that point was so
clear.
I can think
of at least 2
operating number of aircraft.
Not based in
Naples but had a significant
market in Naples inquiring
asking us for availability of
Hank.
Couple leaves that none of them
are really suitable because
most
of which several which are in
condominium complexes which do
not permit commercial
activities. We had.
Individual condominium units
and various complexes many of
which she we developed.
None of those permit
commercial.
With the location of these pad
sites the highest and best use
as for service is available to.
And so there are a lot of other
hangers on the air or from
which an entity.
It's the shuttle for its own
company employees Mister Morel
spoke specifically to that and
they can conduct that activity
from any one of those
condominium had.
And as we define an arm
minimum standards, the key
distinguishing factors making
services.
And for a Saudi candid.
I don't want to be in the
business of. Splitting those
hairs.
There's no good way
for us is the Air Force
sponsor.
You know as a a Ford you have
to take into
consideration all a factor so
clearly for us and the rfp
document made clear that there
is great importance placed
on the ice and that's you so
clearly in to make your
decision you need to take that
into consideration along with
all the other factors also
consider he offered
significantly lower.
So you this would be a canned.
It's for their own
private company use land urban
structures.
This is a little bit of a high.
>> ok are we ready to discuss
the rankings.
Clearly it is so Lance the.
It is
a group are strong presentation
interview experience uh
the community.
Foreign trips, truth. And with
this last issue a really crowds
for me.
And into law.
He said it was in significant,
maybe even some of his company
it isn't clear, but that means
something to us.
We have not been able to for is
all. All right go marcheline
has a.
I tell you one thing that.
One thing I was pleased with
their full.
These 2 very visible.
So lucky.
>> The reasonable for you to
ask Marco hangers whether he.
If he'd be willing to.
What what I brought up wasn't
presentation.
Renditions and so on.
>> I I just feel like and
being it says these are 2 new
parcels into new
Absolutely want to make it the
same. Yes.
Okay a then if you have any
other discussion I would just
suggest that for you.
But after on any of your
discussion. Any other.
When I reviewed the
application. I was blown away
uh by.
Power of everything you get
you.
Anze into the dew.
My feeling was.
He should be building it.
He's good for engineer.
At a presentation
he filled in.
All these fancy lasers to that
actually Renee a.
I've got to to women.
>> Could could I address uh
yes, Sir, okay, then.
I mean just like Marco was
given that opportunity to say
that they a change the look the
look like the one we designed.
I mean maybe I misunderstood
the solicitation we don't have
to put our facility in there.
I mean I would we can do.
Charter like Chris wants with a
you know I I said that we would
follow the part one 35 and mean
that's fine with people that
are points in there.
It would you know that when the
original presentation we said
that we we we we are talking to
somebody else
who wants to use it for planes
and maintenance. And I'm
perfectly fine with that with
the stipulation we will put our
stuff in there. I
just I misunderstood because we
were doing it as a part one 35.
I thought we
would be one of the customers
but I have no problem must not
be one of the customers we have
we have other hand we can work
out.
I just want to I just would
make that.
I mean that's part of the
police say.
>> Still retain ownership
or would you sell units like
you traditionally do have done
in your other developments that
that's a different model.
I mean that's it with on those
the Internet.
That's a development that to
buy and sell it would no we're
not looking for that will look
into a lease it out.
>> Because you have done sense
of the psyche.
Absolutely that what we
eat angers and stuff like that
doesn't mean obviously we built
ourselves over 25 years on here
so they Dole sell you know we
you know with a gun.
No we definitely a pilot.
You know I thought $200 myself
out
I just I just want to make e
if there was a misunderstanding
my parks, I thought I was
meeting that I to to know that
you have some fuel sales.
But you know if Chris has some
charter companies that want to
put their planes in there.
And like I said we are
talking to another company this
interest it lease out the whole
facility to.
So you're going to run this
business the fb o k.
You know I I have to
tell you that we have 200
people I mean there's we
probably have 10 or 20 in our
staff right now they could do
that.
They they they do a
typical like it an f where they
do that
the airplane storage and they
do the airplane maintenance.
You know obviously the can to
an airplane point fueling.
The line service
I hope that.
Helps clarify so that was a
little bit cloudy but we
definitely will follow the
rules and regulations so just
scratch. We think that what I
suggested was a hybrid.
When did the same exact thing
the other 2 are doing.
>> Soon but he didn't make.
The I tell you one thing.
You know like it's not an easy
out to us now.
It's
relatively new Year and the
Naples area but up north he's
run.
B o's and.
I guess when I look at your
your income statement.
>> Investment bankers, this is
for polls right now I
now I understand it. But what
that indicates to me also is
you know you look at the value
look at.
And I guess that's true of
every business person, you
know.
I guess my question is I guess
you know
quality enterprises could be
looking at the same thing.
Imagine you probably want to do
that is your do you have like a
five-year plan for this are you
feel like you're going to.
Don't change look.
Cent you can send mebody to
be James throughout my whole
life hausen draw. There's no
record not so.
Okay, she's right.
Yet this is a really difficult
decision I think
I agree with my fellow
commissioners I think for me.
It's all about highest and best
use that's what this. He was
all about.
While it is true.
The lease revenue whoa where
near
what the fuel revenue is I
appreciate the intent. In what
Mister Mister Fatah she has
brought forward in his $0.55
per square foot.
That's the intent is not in
significant in my my.
I
appreciate his his flexibility
and the design as well. This
with this is really tough and I
I
I really appreciate she worries
a proposal and also your
flexibility. But I think that I
agree with my fellow
commissioners. I think we have
a consensus.
Well we we need a motion I
guess you know notion.
So we need
2.
I'm Marco hangers
ranking number one.
Ranking
number 2 for parcel to.
Are make that motion.
>> And Mister Leonhardt second
Mister Russo own favor signify
by saying aye
are a motion carries
unanimously thank you thank you
everyone who participated in
all your proposals we greatly
appreciate.
And this meeting
is where 3 do that just for the
record. Yes, it sure there's no
public comment. Ok is there any
public comment. Okay
this meeting is Karen. Thank
you.