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>> Good evening. Welcome to

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the regular city of New

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Braunfels Board of Adjustment

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meeting. We are a five-member

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board that is appointed by

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City Council pursuant to state

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law. This board hears request

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from property owners for

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variances and special

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exemptions from locally

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adopted ordinances. This board

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MAY also hear appeals of

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decisions made by city staff

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and administering these

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ordinances. The general

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procedure for each case is a

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board will hear first from

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city staff who will provide a

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summary of each applicant's

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request. Then the applicant or

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agent will be asked to come

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forward and advocate for the

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request next. The board or

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Quest public comment from

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anyone who would like to speak

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in favor or in opposition to

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the request. Those speaking in

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favor or in opposition will be

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limited to 5 minutes. However,

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the chair does reserve the

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right to adjust these times.

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The board will keep all

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discussions to the issues at

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hand and cannot deviate in 2

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unrelated topics or areas that

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do not contribute to the

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merits of this request. After

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the close of the public

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hearing, the pending case will

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need to have a motion and a

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second to the motion from the

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board members in order to

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proceed to a vote in order for

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request to be approved. State

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law requires that 4 out of 5

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of the board members vote to

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approve the variance requests.

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The request fails if no motion

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or second is made for

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approval. If denied the same

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or similar request cannot

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reappear before the board for

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at least 6 months unless new

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substantial evidence not

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available at the initial

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hearing is produced by the

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applicant. Any aggrieved party

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MAY appeal a decision made by

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this board and appeals are

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made to the district court or

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county court of law. And if

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you have any questions, you

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MAY City staff member after

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the meeting. All right. Can I

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have role call? Police? Member

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quickly? Member am here member

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I Alternate member Schneider

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here, CHAIRMAN Here. Thank you

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so much. First rule on on the

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agenda is the approval of the

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JUNE 25th 2026 regular meeting

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minutes. I make a motion to

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approve. I second the motion

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great. Can we have ruled on

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that? Please. Member quickly.

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Member am yes member right

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know. Yes. Members Schreiner

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yes, and yes, thank you.

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Moving down. We have citizens

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communication and then we're

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gonna move to our public

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hearing that items for

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individual consideration was

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moved down. There. First item

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this evening, c s 2, 6 Dash,

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0, 2, 6, 2, a public hearing

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and consideration of a request

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by 24 design on behalf of a

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nerd can't Black New Braunfels

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Holdings, llc for an alternate

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site plan to allow a proposed

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American flag to exceed the

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maximum allowable size for

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flags for property within the

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c-one be General Business

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district and with frontage

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along loop 3.37 currently

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addressed at 9.36 Loop 3.37,

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MR. Barker, hello, and Little

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MISTER Chair and Good Evening

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board members called Barker

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with neighborhood in community

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planning.

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>> For your consideration this

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evening is a proposed

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alternative sign plan. This

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request is not a sign

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variance, rather. It's the

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appropriate process for

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considering proposals that MAY

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not fully comply with the city

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sign code because of this. A

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hardship is not required and

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approval MAY be granted by a

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simple majority of the board.

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The subject property is in

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nearly 2 acre commercial lot

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home to the original Black's

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barbecue and located at the

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intersection of Loop 3, 3, 7,

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and Common Street and has

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frontage on both of those

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roadways. The property is

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located within the c-one be

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General Business district and

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sits near the center of an

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active commercial corridor.

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Residential zoning as can be

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seen on the periphery of the

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area here. Here's a few photos

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of the property is seen from

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across the loop and along

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Common Street showing the

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properties frontage along both

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of the roadways. Staff notes

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that the site contains an

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existing non-conforming pull

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side advertising the

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restaurant as well as an

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abandoned pull sign structure

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that historically served

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previous restaurant uses. A

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few more photos here. And we

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can always come back to these.

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Standards for flags and

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flagpoles are established

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under the city sign ordinance.

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A comparison of the proposed

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alternative plan to the city's

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existing standards can be seen

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here in this chart. Fleck

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sizes are limited to a maximum

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of 40 square feet across all

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zoning districts and flagpoles

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are set to a maximum height of

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25 feet and most zoning

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districts. Flagpoles located

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within the c-one be district

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are permitted to exceed the

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typical 25 foot height limit

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up to the maximum building.

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Height permitted in the

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district, which in this case

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is 75 feet. The proposed

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alternative plan and requests

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that American flag be allowed

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to exceed the maximum flags

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signs established under the

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city sign ordinance. The

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applicant notes that the

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proposed increase in flags on

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his to 96 square feet is

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intended to be approx

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appropriately scaled to the

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new 60 foot flagpole planned

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for the site and would ensure

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proper visibility and

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proportional appearance

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relative to the taller poll.

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They emphasize that the flag

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is intended to serve as a

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prominent patriotic feature

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for the restaurant,

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particularly given the

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properties frontage along

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heavily trafficked roadways.

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The provide a site plan shows

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that the flag pole is set back

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more than 50 feet from the

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property lines along both of

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those roadways. Staff is

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recommending approval of the

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request with the following

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conditions consistent with the

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intent of the alternative site

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plan process condition. Number

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one would be that that only an

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official United States flag

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MAY exceed the maximum flag

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size up to 96 square feet. In

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condition. Number 2, the

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abandoned formerly utilized

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sign pole be removed from the

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property. The proposed flag

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Sajdak seat proposed flag size

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exceeds the standard allowance

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is proportionate to the taller

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60 foot flagpole allowed in

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the property. Zoning.

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Stephens. The proposal would

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enhance site visibility and

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the recommended conditions

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would help reduce existing

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nonconformities on the site.

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Since posting the agenda for

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this meeting. Staff has had

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additional discussions with

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the applicant regarding

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condition number 2. They've

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indicated that there are

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future plans to utilize the

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event in Seoul. Sign pole and

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intends to submit a separate

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alternatives signed plan

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request for its use. This will

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conclude our introduction, the

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applicant believe MR. Black is

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for this evening. I'm happy to

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answer any questions you MAY

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have for staff. Thank you,

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>> Do we have any questions

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for Colton this evening?

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>> Do you know height? So the

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signs out there that are out

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there ready existing.

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>> I don't have an exact

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height on since I've been

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doing this a little bit. I

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give them at least the 40

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feet. Just all of them.

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>> Right. But the the

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original.

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>> Lex looks even tall.

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>> It might be And as seen in

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the past, a lot of these signs

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existing in town established

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for the city, had a sign code

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around 2009 or is when we

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adopted that. So a lot of

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these are still in existence.

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They're grandfathered in, but

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they're just considered

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nonconforming. Okay. All

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right. Thank

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>> Coca-cola has the for the

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existing abandoned sign. Yes,

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sir, has it. Been submitted

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and is it going to conform?

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Johnston?

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>> We it would also, I

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believe, fall into one of

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those nonconforming

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categories. It's shorter than

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the existing black signed. But

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staff has met with MR. Black

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some of these folks in the

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past to discuss potential

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options for utilizing that

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signage. And it's kind of a

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tough cookie to crack here.

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The current sign codes allow

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for a pulse at that size at

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this location or within the

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property zoning district. But

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the applicants made clear that

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they intend to potentially

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realize that okay, ended but

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not submitted. Get correct?

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>> Thing else on the other end

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of the table. So the the

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height. That they're looking

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to do is currently would-be

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conforming at the 60 foot can.

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75 feet currently allowed?

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Yes, sir. So it's just

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basically the size of the flag

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itself. Yes, sir, that's

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that's what the this

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alternative site plan is

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proposing. Just a

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>> Exceeding of the in the

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setback 50 foot vs. Believe

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the typically it would be just

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5 feet for flag pulls off the

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off the property line. But

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given the location over

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supposing it. Yeah, at least

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50 feet will

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>> Let me ask you one

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question. How far back as the

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current signed when I read the

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packet, I I understood there

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they're going to put it where

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that current sign was. So I

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might have misread that.

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>> And you wouldn't be a a

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when Jamie for that because I

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thought the same It's going to

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go right with that old poll is

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that's what looking back at

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the property. It's actually a

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street street pole, parking

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lot like right where the

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flagpoles looking case. That's

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going to replace that parking

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lot. That's our understanding

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at this time. But perhaps some

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stuff. Okay, that's no. That's

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fine. Thank you for clarifying

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All right. No other questions.

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Thank At this point, we would

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like to ask the applicant to

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come up and please state your

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name for the address.

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>> His name for the record.

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Hello, I'm Mark Stewart.

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Architect with 24 7 at 605,

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which drive New Braunfels,

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Texas.

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>> Thank you. Would like to

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tell us about your project,

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all that so that this you see

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the flag is appropriately

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located. Well, back from the

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setbacks.

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>> And ideal location even

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interfere with current

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parking. And did our homework.

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And we've proportionately size

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the flag to be proportional to

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the height, but not over the

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top. Literally. No pun

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intended. In regards to the

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existing nonconforming sign

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that that the blacks want to

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work with us to come up with a

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conforming solution to bring

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it back to life. What I'd like

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to suggest is. That that be

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considered on the stone. As an

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application in at that time we

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can address it's full

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compliance. I would like

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behalf of the owner suggest

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that we approve the size of

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the flag and then let that

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other sign be addressed fully

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in a separate application. The

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other side is not on our

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agenda this evening. We're

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just don't work and worried

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about the Understood. Yeah. I

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mean, that's a condition for

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the flag. Esteban suggesting

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that get women? The questions.

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So will this replace the line

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that is in the parking lot or

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is this going to be in

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addition to be in addition to

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it'll sit back in the striped

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area where there's no parking

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>> About 10 feet away from

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that. And the reason is so we

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can keep that light where it

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is and had this beast its own

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structure, 60 foot hole. Okay.

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And only going to be housing

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American flight or are they

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going to stack flags all the

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way down?

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>> Given that there's a 90

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covid. Could you go back to

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that? You know, we have

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maximum size of 96 square

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feet. Just kind trying to

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envision what else is going to

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be on there. Just the American

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flag see American All right.

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Do we have any other questions

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for are

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>> So it's going to be flying

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24, 7, correct? Yeah. So what

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the intent was to have

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appropriate lighting. Okay. So

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like the flag downer up, I

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guess to be up the Point

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towards the flag. I guess that

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would be a question for the

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city. It needs requirements

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for. Whatever lighting we

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have.

404
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>> I usually try and be

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prepared for your question.

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Don't have with at the moment.

407
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But typically are what we

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don't have an official dark

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skies policy in place. We do

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try and strive for dark skies

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where where possible. All had

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something that as well.

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Kristie Lu, any planning to

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record city of Braunfels if a

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flag erected raise for the

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rector MISS For a flag, U.S.

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Flag or state flag. And of

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course, with approval of the

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board for the size and such as

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requested. I believe the

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federal government requires

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that it be lighted at night.

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So even if the city had

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limitations lighting, we would

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be able to enforce those of

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the federal government

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mandated up lighting for the

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lights.

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>> Well, thinking down, like

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can you can also live

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different way. But let's pull

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And I think, too, that it

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would be of focused

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directional light. What we can

435
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control the being very

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precisely.

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>> To hit the flag and not

438
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project behind it. I do have

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one more sorry.

440
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>> Why it is why 60 feet like

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that is tall. Even though I

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understand 75 foot for the

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commercial is, you know.

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>> Allowable.

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>> But like in that area, 60

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feet, would be like really

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high.

448
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>> And I'll tell you why the

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the property is surrounded by

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power lines and they're at 40

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2 feet above the ground. So as

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we studied the placement of

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the flags, so that would be

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visible when we had a low and

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that 40 some odd foot range.

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What we found looking at the 3

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d model and study in the site

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was that as you are looking

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at, you be looking at the flag

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through power lines. So 60

461
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foot was that magic number

462
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that got the flag above the

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power lines were when you're

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looking at it, you didn't see

465
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wires obscuring their view. So

466
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that's why it's not high. All

467
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right. Any other questions for

468
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the initial eruption? Thank

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you. Thank you.

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>> At this time, anyone else

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would like to come up and

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speak in favor of this as the

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applicant. You're there

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anybody else for the

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applicants like speaking

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favor. All right. That will

477
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open the public. Are you

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coming up for the public?

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We'll open our public.

480
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>> part of this hearing, if

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you like to come up and speak

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in favor or in opposition

483
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state your name, please. They

484
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didn't want district 5. I am

485
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going to every board meeting.

486
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>> In a wooden quite sure what

487
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this one was. You know, I live

488
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on the condo condo on the

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river and what to look out at

490
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night. Cypress been there's

491
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this giant flag that just

492
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flies above the whole city.

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That is such a wonderful view

494
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to see and such a statement.

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Of New Braunfels. This

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culture, what we believe in

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you know, American flag is a

498
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very simple thing that ties

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back to your cultures in our

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founding. That is really being

501
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bashed in many ways. The

502
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culture is sort of trying to,

503
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you know, diminish America

504
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many way to changing change.

505
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Now, but be a great thing.

506
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Him, you know it. It's a

507
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wonderful business and

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wonderful civic-minded owner

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sell. I'm very much in

510
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support. Thank you, Thank you.

511
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Appreciate that. All right. We

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have anyone else like to speak

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in favor. Please feel free to

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come up and state your name

515
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for the record.

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>> Hello, everyone. My name is

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Kent Black. And I'm sorry. I

518
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missed the to get up there.

519
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Quick enough for the time. I

520
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just want to thank all of you

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for your service. And I know

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what doing is very important.

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And it's been a real honor for

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me and my family to be in New

525
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Braunfels and do our best to

526
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be a part of the community my

527
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mother's first language was

528
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German. So of I enjoy German

529
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culture and no one has a

530
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little kid and the German I

531
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learned was when I was doing

532
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something bad, one answered

533
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uncle as would the use some

534
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different phrases. But

535
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appreciate you all's

536
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consideration and thank you

537
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for your public service. Thank

538
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k. Anyone else like to speak

539
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in favor. Okay. Would anyone

540
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like to speak in opposition of

541
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this?

542
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>> Seeing none. We'll close

543
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the public hearing board

544
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members. Do we have any

545
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discussion? Do we

546
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>> Emotions that someone like

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to make? I came up with a new

548
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question for Colton, the slide

549
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that has the current, the I

550
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guess what's allowed height

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was inside Buzz. It shows that

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the c-one be he's allowed of

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75 feet. Do you know? What is

554
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allowed just and see one would

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be the same as the c-one be.

556
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In the neighboring properties

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are all c-one is why I'm

558
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asking the question. It seems

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like this property itself as

560
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the c-one be.

561
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>> Yeah. And actually sure I'm

562
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understanding your question.

563
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If a similar height would be

564
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allowed in the c-one nearby.

565
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Correct. Give me one moment. I

566
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think I have paper copy of the

567
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full chart. They would have.

568
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That information for in

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regards the flagpoles

570
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particular or yes. And I guess

571
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that's part of our discussion.

572
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The reason I'm asking is just,

573
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you know, obviously with this,

574
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you know, setting a precedent

575
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of this is. Does every see one

576
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zoning down the Loo then say,

577
00:18:59,241 --> 00:18:59,875
well, I also want all right,

578
00:18:59,875 --> 00:19:02,875
super tall. That's a good

579
00:19:05,375 --> 00:19:06,575
question. Year is Yes, I

580
00:19:06,575 --> 00:19:08,141
included this line here. This

581
00:19:08,141 --> 00:19:08,875
is the code eggs for

582
00:19:08,875 --> 00:19:11,875
government of flags and you'll

583
00:19:12,175 --> 00:19:14,208
notice at the bottom letter d

584
00:19:14,208 --> 00:19:15,575
lists the other zoning Dick's

585
00:19:15,575 --> 00:19:16,308
districts that this is allowed

586
00:19:16,308 --> 00:19:17,410
to where it can match whatever

587
00:19:17,410 --> 00:19:20,342
the maximum height is for that

588
00:19:20,342 --> 00:19:22,375
zoning district. It does not

589
00:19:22,375 --> 00:19:23,442
appear that see one is in that

590
00:19:23,442 --> 00:19:25,308
category. Icc, one b and c 2

591
00:19:25,308 --> 00:19:29,508
and so on. I don't see. See

592
00:19:33,642 --> 00:19:36,642
one in there. Okay. Thank

593
00:19:37,900 --> 00:19:39,900
Discussions. Emotions anyone

594
00:19:42,542 --> 00:19:44,109
like to make on I want to make

595
00:19:44,109 --> 00:19:47,760
a motion. But again, my

596
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:47,776
opinion just with the other

597
00:19:47,776 --> 00:19:49,809
signs being nonconforming, if

598
00:19:49,809 --> 00:19:51,942
there is potential that.

599
00:19:51,942 --> 00:19:54,242
>> I feel like in our other

600
00:19:54,242 --> 00:19:55,750
sign alternative plans.

601
00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:56,176
Usually there's like some type

602
00:19:56,176 --> 00:19:57,509
of trade off like, hey, we

603
00:19:57,509 --> 00:19:59,309
want to go from 4 signs to one

604
00:19:59,309 --> 00:20:00,760
large signs. We want a large

605
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,942
on. I feel like with this

606
00:20:02,942 --> 00:20:05,542
request, it just asking for

607
00:20:05,542 --> 00:20:06,676
that. Almost feel like it's

608
00:20:06,676 --> 00:20:08,443
theirs. Something going to

609
00:20:08,443 --> 00:20:10,476
come up in the future with the

610
00:20:10,476 --> 00:20:11,543
2, looks like there's 2

611
00:20:11,543 --> 00:20:12,243
existing poll signs. I don't

612
00:20:12,243 --> 00:20:15,209
know if both would be allowed

613
00:20:15,209 --> 00:20:17,243
in the zoning, but it seems

614
00:20:17,243 --> 00:20:19,676
like some type of plan that

615
00:20:19,676 --> 00:20:20,176
incorporated the flag and the

616
00:20:20,176 --> 00:20:20,943
2 existing signs.

617
00:20:20,943 --> 00:20:21,643
>> I think if we follow the

618
00:20:21,643 --> 00:20:23,877
city's guidelines and saying

619
00:20:23,877 --> 00:20:24,543
that they would have to and

620
00:20:24,543 --> 00:20:25,210
then the other that they're

621
00:20:25,210 --> 00:20:26,743
going to do this, I have no

622
00:20:26,743 --> 00:20:27,376
problem with

623
00:20:27,376 --> 00:20:29,710
>> think it's a separate

624
00:20:29,710 --> 00:20:33,176
issue, too. That would be a

625
00:20:33,176 --> 00:20:34,677
separate issue in.

626
00:20:34,677 --> 00:20:35,743
>> Cold could you read what

627
00:20:35,743 --> 00:20:38,430
the what your recommendation

628
00:20:38,430 --> 00:20:40,443
was for city, please,

629
00:20:42,770 --> 00:20:42,777
>> We had recommended that

630
00:20:42,777 --> 00:20:45,177
we've recommended approval of

631
00:20:45,243 --> 00:20:46,210
the proposed plan with the

632
00:20:46,210 --> 00:20:47,710
condition. One that only an

633
00:20:47,710 --> 00:20:48,410
official United States flag

634
00:20:48,410 --> 00:20:51,410
MAY exceed the maximum flag

635
00:20:52,510 --> 00:20:53,743
size up to 96 square feet.

636
00:20:53,743 --> 00:20:56,143
Addition to that, the

637
00:20:56,577 --> 00:20:57,410
abandoned former joining Curry

638
00:20:57,410 --> 00:20:58,444
knows last Gennaro the

639
00:20:58,444 --> 00:20:59,110
existing remaining structure

640
00:20:59,110 --> 00:21:02,110
be removed. Just the polls

641
00:21:05,444 --> 00:21:09,440
there. Use that exact. For my

642
00:21:09,177 --> 00:21:10,977
motion. And mean, to restate

643
00:21:10,977 --> 00:21:12,911
that I can or we can just use

644
00:21:12,911 --> 00:21:15,311
exactly how cold properly

645
00:21:15,311 --> 00:21:16,577
stated that we can. All you

646
00:21:16,577 --> 00:21:17,311
can also freeze. It with the

647
00:21:17,311 --> 00:21:18,944
conditions listed in the staff

648
00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:20,944
report. Like, yeah.

649
00:21:21,144 --> 00:21:22,844
>> We also. Make sure it's

650
00:21:22,844 --> 00:21:26,444
only the flag like I don't

651
00:21:28,611 --> 00:21:29,744
want. 2 years from now.

652
00:21:29,744 --> 00:21:30,678
Something else is going to be

653
00:21:30,678 --> 00:21:31,378
out something else is going to

654
00:21:31,378 --> 00:21:34,344
get. Then something you know,

655
00:21:34,344 --> 00:21:35,611
then it's like that car

656
00:21:35,611 --> 00:21:36,678
dealership. Would you like to

657
00:21:36,678 --> 00:21:39,544
motion your motion with my

658
00:21:39,544 --> 00:21:41,544
staff,

659
00:21:42,644 --> 00:21:44,644
>> It again,

660
00:21:47,945 --> 00:21:49,450
>> making a motion.

661
00:21:49,450 --> 00:21:52,450
>> For the flag pole has

662
00:21:52,678 --> 00:21:53,311
proposed at 60 feet with the

663
00:21:53,311 --> 00:21:54,945
96 square-foot flag with

664
00:21:54,945 --> 00:21:57,945
United States flat. With no

665
00:21:58,611 --> 00:22:00,511
other. Do I do. The commission

666
00:22:00,511 --> 00:22:01,211
commission now with no other

667
00:22:01,211 --> 00:22:04,211
flights attached to that one

668
00:22:07,312 --> 00:22:08,110
poll. In addition, this second

669
00:22:08,110 --> 00:22:10,411
condition of removing the

670
00:22:10,845 --> 00:22:12,778
existing. Signs on the

671
00:22:12,778 --> 00:22:14,778
property.

672
00:22:16,612 --> 00:22:17,245
>> As stated in the

673
00:22:17,245 --> 00:22:20,245
>> as stated in the staff

674
00:22:22,445 --> 00:22:23,145
recommendation. Okay.

675
00:22:23,145 --> 00:22:23,845
>> We have a motion that we

676
00:22:23,845 --> 00:22:27,445
have a second to that motion.

677
00:22:27,579 --> 00:22:28,211
I'll second that motion. All

678
00:22:28,211 --> 00:22:31,811
Can we have a roll call,

679
00:22:32,545 --> 00:22:34,945
please. Member quickly. Member

680
00:22:36,479 --> 00:22:36,979
am.

681
00:22:36,979 --> 00:22:38,979
>> Member reckon.

682
00:22:40,846 --> 00:22:43,246
>> Yes. Member Schreiner. Yes,

683
00:22:43,946 --> 00:22:44,679
and I.

684
00:22:44,679 --> 00:22:46,679
>> Thank you. Congratulations.

685
00:22:50,812 --> 00:22:52,279
Your motion is passed. Items

686
00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:54,212
for consideration with us.

687
00:22:54,212 --> 00:22:56,612
Let's talk about Zb. 2, 6, 6,

688
00:22:57,146 --> 00:22:59,146
that 0, 0, 0, 9, a public

689
00:23:00,946 --> 00:23:02,146
hearing in consideration of a

690
00:23:02,146 --> 00:23:04,479
request for a variance from

691
00:23:04,479 --> 00:23:06,479
Section 1, 4, 4 dash, 3.3 dash

692
00:23:07,579 --> 00:23:10,713
to be one. I I to allow an

693
00:23:10,713 --> 00:23:12,713
accessory structure structure

694
00:23:12,713 --> 00:23:15,713
to encroach. 25 feet into the

695
00:23:16,613 --> 00:23:18,513
required. 25 foot corner side

696
00:23:18,513 --> 00:23:21,480
setback with the art to a

697
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,880
chill single family. 2 family

698
00:23:24,546 --> 00:23:25,680
Historic landmark District

699
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,680
currently addressed at 307,

700
00:23:29,470 --> 00:23:32,470
North Gunther's Avenue. And so

701
00:23:33,147 --> 00:23:34,347
mouthful, Sorry.

702
00:23:34,347 --> 00:23:35,213
>> Good evening. Chair and

703
00:23:35,213 --> 00:23:37,347
board members, Mary level with

704
00:23:37,347 --> 00:23:39,180
neighborhood in community

705
00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:40,180
planning department. The

706
00:23:40,180 --> 00:23:42,414
subject property is a 2 story.

707
00:23:42,414 --> 00:23:44,414
1900 square-foot single-family

708
00:23:45,247 --> 00:23:47,247
residential home constructed

709
00:23:48,147 --> 00:23:48,881
in about at about 1920,

710
00:23:48,881 --> 00:23:51,114
located at the corner of North

711
00:23:51,114 --> 00:23:54,114
Gunther Avenue and East Bridge

712
00:23:54,447 --> 00:23:56,247
Street. It is owned are 2 and

713
00:23:56,247 --> 00:23:59,247
is surrounded entirely by are

714
00:23:59,280 --> 00:23:59,980
2 properties. The existing

715
00:23:59,980 --> 00:24:00,680
house. It's only about 8 feet

716
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,981
from the corner side property

717
00:24:02,981 --> 00:24:05,981
line, which is what the

718
00:24:06,114 --> 00:24:09,214
variances for today is the to

719
00:24:09,214 --> 00:24:10,247
encroach into that corner side

720
00:24:10,247 --> 00:24:11,214
property line, which is

721
00:24:11,214 --> 00:24:12,981
significantly significantly

722
00:24:12,981 --> 00:24:15,381
closer than today's required.

723
00:24:17,214 --> 00:24:18,514
25 foot corner site setback.

724
00:24:18,514 --> 00:24:19,181
These photos show the current

725
00:24:19,181 --> 00:24:22,181
conditions of the side yard

726
00:24:22,814 --> 00:24:24,810
along the corner of East

727
00:24:24,810 --> 00:24:26,140
Bridge Street and North Gunter

728
00:24:26,140 --> 00:24:26,681
Avenue as well as other

729
00:24:26,681 --> 00:24:27,381
structures and fences that

730
00:24:27,381 --> 00:24:30,281
have been built very close to

731
00:24:30,281 --> 00:24:30,981
the property lines. The

732
00:24:30,981 --> 00:24:32,981
applicant originally applied

733
00:24:34,581 --> 00:24:35,248
for a garage, a variance for a

734
00:24:35,248 --> 00:24:37,348
garage to encroach into the

735
00:24:37,348 --> 00:24:40,581
set back in JUNE of this year.

736
00:24:40,581 --> 00:24:43,810
But concerns were raised at

737
00:24:43,810 --> 00:24:43,881
that time regarding vehicle

738
00:24:43,881 --> 00:24:46,281
circulation and backing out

739
00:24:47,215 --> 00:24:49,381
safety at this intersection.

740
00:24:49,381 --> 00:24:51,649
The garage component has been

741
00:24:51,649 --> 00:24:52,248
removed and the applicant is

742
00:24:52,248 --> 00:24:54,648
now requesting only an

743
00:24:55,115 --> 00:24:56,981
accessory storage building,

744
00:24:56,981 --> 00:24:57,715
the applicant states that the

745
00:24:57,715 --> 00:24:58,948
request is in harmony with the

746
00:24:58,948 --> 00:25:00,115
purpose and intent of the

747
00:25:00,115 --> 00:25:02,115
ordinance allowing a

748
00:25:02,682 --> 00:25:04,682
reasonable accessory structure

749
00:25:05,820 --> 00:25:07,820
without affecting neighboring

750
00:25:07,315 --> 00:25:09,150
properties. The hardship

751
00:25:09,150 --> 00:25:09,748
results from physical

752
00:25:09,748 --> 00:25:12,349
characteristics of the lot and

753
00:25:12,349 --> 00:25:13,849
is tied directly to the

754
00:25:13,849 --> 00:25:16,249
historic development up to

755
00:25:17,382 --> 00:25:18,348
this point. And the current

756
00:25:18,348 --> 00:25:20,215
code requirement to have a 25

757
00:25:20,215 --> 00:25:23,215
foot yard Set-back. Side yard

758
00:25:24,449 --> 00:25:25,315
setback. The site plan shows

759
00:25:25,315 --> 00:25:27,715
the proposed storage building

760
00:25:28,490 --> 00:25:30,249
along the existing fence line.

761
00:25:30,249 --> 00:25:31,816
The proposal is for storage,

762
00:25:31,816 --> 00:25:32,449
only eliminating any of the

763
00:25:32,449 --> 00:25:34,849
traffic impacts that were

764
00:25:35,216 --> 00:25:37,616
associated with the previously

765
00:25:37,982 --> 00:25:40,116
requested variance for garage.

766
00:25:40,116 --> 00:25:42,282
The building is modest in

767
00:25:42,282 --> 00:25:43,249
scale and maintains the

768
00:25:43,249 --> 00:25:44,882
residential character of the

769
00:25:44,882 --> 00:25:46,490
area. Additionally, the

770
00:25:46,490 --> 00:25:48,449
building would be located

771
00:25:49,949 --> 00:25:50,916
along that existing fence line

772
00:25:50,916 --> 00:25:52,216
resulting in little to no

773
00:25:52,216 --> 00:25:52,883
visible change to the side

774
00:25:52,883 --> 00:25:54,549
yard appearance from either

775
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:56,949
the street or surrounding

776
00:25:58,583 --> 00:26:00,983
properties. Notices were sent

777
00:26:01,616 --> 00:26:02,950
to 20 property owners.

778
00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:04,950
Surrounding property owners

779
00:26:05,516 --> 00:26:07,616
and staff has received 7

780
00:26:07,616 --> 00:26:10,583
responses in favor and one in

781
00:26:10,583 --> 00:26:12,616
opposition. The applicant is

782
00:26:12,616 --> 00:26:13,316
here to present and advocate

783
00:26:13,316 --> 00:26:14,500
for their request. And I can

784
00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:17,500
also answer any questions that

785
00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:17,783
you MAY have for staff. Thank

786
00:26:17,783 --> 00:26:21,383
you, ma'am. Do we have any

787
00:26:23,617 --> 00:26:24,316
questions for staff? Have a

788
00:26:24,316 --> 00:26:26,650
question. I don't know if you

789
00:26:26,650 --> 00:26:27,683
know the answer. One of the

790
00:26:27,683 --> 00:26:28,850
think the opposition card

791
00:26:28,850 --> 00:26:31,250
mentions something about the

792
00:26:31,950 --> 00:26:33,383
garage not approved.

793
00:26:33,383 --> 00:26:34,217
>> The drawing doesn't show

794
00:26:34,217 --> 00:26:37,217
any doors on that structure.

795
00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:38,117
Is there any information on?

796
00:26:38,117 --> 00:26:38,784
What would be in that

797
00:26:38,784 --> 00:26:41,784
structure for doors? I did

798
00:26:42,383 --> 00:26:43,117
have a a.

799
00:26:43,117 --> 00:26:43,817
>> Someone reach out about the

800
00:26:43,817 --> 00:26:45,950
doors so this could never be

801
00:26:45,950 --> 00:26:47,617
turned in if this was approved

802
00:26:47,617 --> 00:26:48,350
tonight, this could never be

803
00:26:48,350 --> 00:26:51,950
turned into a garage with a

804
00:26:52,117 --> 00:26:54,984
garage door on the outside

805
00:26:54,984 --> 00:26:55,984
because as was stated in the

806
00:26:55,984 --> 00:26:58,184
variance request, you would

807
00:26:58,184 --> 00:27:00,451
need multiple variances for

808
00:27:00,451 --> 00:27:02,218
that. And so that would not be

809
00:27:02,218 --> 00:27:03,151
allowed by code in order to do

810
00:27:03,151 --> 00:27:05,751
that. You know, an applicant

811
00:27:05,751 --> 00:27:08,618
would have to come back and

812
00:27:08,618 --> 00:27:10,351
asked for a variance for at

813
00:27:10,351 --> 00:27:11,118
least 2 different berries

814
00:27:11,118 --> 00:27:13,518
variance requests. I did

815
00:27:14,118 --> 00:27:15,218
notice that in the one person

816
00:27:15,218 --> 00:27:15,951
that was opposed to the

817
00:27:15,951 --> 00:27:18,951
requests they stated in their

818
00:27:19,718 --> 00:27:21,618
car that they we're against a

819
00:27:21,618 --> 00:27:22,218
garage, but they were okay if

820
00:27:22,218 --> 00:27:25,218
it were just a storage

821
00:27:25,251 --> 00:27:25,984
building with no the garage

822
00:27:25,984 --> 00:27:29,484
door along the roadway of East

823
00:27:29,484 --> 00:27:30,485
Bridge.

824
00:27:30,485 --> 00:27:32,618
>> And is there a current rear

825
00:27:32,618 --> 00:27:33,651
setback or is that only going

826
00:27:33,651 --> 00:27:35,418
to a side said that? I believe

827
00:27:35,418 --> 00:27:37,551
that they're going to be

828
00:27:37,551 --> 00:27:39,318
meeting the rear setback and

829
00:27:39,318 --> 00:27:40,180
that is 3 feet in the rear.

830
00:27:40,180 --> 00:27:42,918
Which is under allowed under

831
00:27:42,918 --> 00:27:44,918
our current code.

832
00:27:46,510 --> 00:27:47,951
>> So see exact same size that

833
00:27:47,951 --> 00:27:51,551
we saw 2 months ago, they just

834
00:27:51,918 --> 00:27:53,520
removed the garage door.

835
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,219
>> That I think that's very

836
00:27:54,219 --> 00:27:55,218
it's very similar in size. If

837
00:27:55,218 --> 00:27:58,818
not smaller. I don't have the

838
00:28:01,485 --> 00:28:03,252
other. Dimensions with me to

839
00:28:03,252 --> 00:28:03,952
tonight that the applicant

840
00:28:03,952 --> 00:28:07,219
refer to rule on the last as

841
00:28:07,219 --> 00:28:10,352
well. I don't see that either.

842
00:28:10,352 --> 00:28:11,850
>> Yeah, that the it's always

843
00:28:11,850 --> 00:28:11,685
recommended that the applicant

844
00:28:11,685 --> 00:28:12,352
strictly, you know, the

845
00:28:12,352 --> 00:28:15,285
floorplan on the left. You

846
00:28:15,285 --> 00:28:16,885
know.

847
00:28:16,885 --> 00:28:17,552
>> Image isn't really

848
00:28:17,552 --> 00:28:18,319
necessarily required. They

849
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:19,252
could have just had the

850
00:28:19,252 --> 00:28:22,186
property outlines. So we just

851
00:28:22,186 --> 00:28:25,919
want to focus on the you know

852
00:28:25,919 --> 00:28:26,619
what the request is today.

853
00:28:26,619 --> 00:28:29,190
>> And if whatever variance,

854
00:28:30,352 --> 00:28:31,186
if we approve the variance. If

855
00:28:31,186 --> 00:28:34,186
a garage or was at a later

856
00:28:34,186 --> 00:28:36,186
time without approval.

857
00:28:37,860 --> 00:28:37,719
>> That would most likely be a

858
00:28:37,719 --> 00:28:39,719
code compliance issue

859
00:28:40,386 --> 00:28:41,860
enforcement issue. Okay. All

860
00:28:41,860 --> 00:28:44,860
right. Thank you. Okay. Thank

861
00:28:44,552 --> 00:28:45,219
you. And at this time invite

862
00:28:45,219 --> 00:28:48,819
the applicant to come up to

863
00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:54,119
the podium. You will come in.

864
00:28:55,986 --> 00:28:57,353
He says, okay,

865
00:28:57,353 --> 00:28:58,786
>> Just trying to pull a shed

866
00:28:58,786 --> 00:28:59,453
in my backyard so I can store

867
00:28:59,453 --> 00:29:00,653
things like that. I please

868
00:29:00,653 --> 00:29:04,253
have your name for the record.

869
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,920
I'm sorry. Gregg Williams.

870
00:29:07,286 --> 00:29:11,486
Yeah. Trying to but a shed to

871
00:29:12,853 --> 00:29:13,786
store items like a on Moore's

872
00:29:13,786 --> 00:29:16,186
yard tools, personal tools,

873
00:29:16,753 --> 00:29:18,853
things like that. We are

874
00:29:18,853 --> 00:29:21,787
trying to preserve some space

875
00:29:21,787 --> 00:29:22,520
for, you know, living space in

876
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,520
the backyard. So that's that's

877
00:29:26,487 --> 00:29:29,487
goal. You have questions for

878
00:29:34,653 --> 00:29:35,687
the applicant.

879
00:29:35,687 --> 00:29:37,200
>> Yeah, I've got I've got a

880
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,887
question and so stated at our

881
00:29:39,887 --> 00:29:40,587
last meeting. My concern was

882
00:29:40,587 --> 00:29:43,154
having the building right on

883
00:29:43,154 --> 00:29:45,521
the property line. You know,

884
00:29:45,521 --> 00:29:49,254
would you be open to shifting like 5 feet from the

885
00:29:49,254 --> 00:29:52,254
property line? You're set on

886
00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:56,254
having it right. On the right

887
00:29:56,254 --> 00:29:58,387
away. You know, I'm just

888
00:29:58,387 --> 00:30:00,787
concerned having a building

889
00:30:00,888 --> 00:30:01,588
exactly on the boundary line.

890
00:30:01,588 --> 00:30:02,287
It could encourage him to the

891
00:30:02,287 --> 00:30:04,754
right away if it's not bill,

892
00:30:04,754 --> 00:30:05,421
perfectly. And that's

893
00:30:05,421 --> 00:30:07,821
typically why there's some

894
00:30:09,210 --> 00:30:11,210
kind of setback.

895
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,888
>> Yeah, I would be flexible

896
00:30:13,888 --> 00:30:16,554
shifting it over a few I were

897
00:30:16,554 --> 00:30:17,388
just again trying to preserve

898
00:30:17,388 --> 00:30:20,688
as much space in the backyard.

899
00:30:20,688 --> 00:30:21,355
It's a pretty small lot. So I

900
00:30:21,355 --> 00:30:22,888
didn't want the shed to be

901
00:30:22,888 --> 00:30:25,355
like in the middle of the

902
00:30:25,355 --> 00:30:26,155
backyard. If we were to follow

903
00:30:26,155 --> 00:30:26,755
like the back requirements,

904
00:30:26,755 --> 00:30:28,755
that's essentially what

905
00:30:30,188 --> 00:30:31,355
happened and who would be

906
00:30:31,355 --> 00:30:32,210
pretty awkward. But moving it

907
00:30:32,210 --> 00:30:35,210
over close to the property

908
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,221
line is kind of the goal.

909
00:30:37,221 --> 00:30:38,880
Yeah, definitely open that the

910
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,155
size. That and to answer the

911
00:30:39,155 --> 00:30:41,122
question about the size is the

912
00:30:41,122 --> 00:30:43,888
exact same size as before. But

913
00:30:43,888 --> 00:30:46,288
we're flexible and modifying

914
00:30:49,122 --> 00:30:49,822
that if needed.

915
00:30:49,822 --> 00:30:52,222
>> Thanks against your doors

916
00:30:53,189 --> 00:30:56,122
will be on the inside of the

917
00:30:56,122 --> 00:30:56,722
property. No doors to the

918
00:30:56,722 --> 00:30:59,222
street, no doors to the

919
00:30:59,222 --> 00:31:01,822
street. All on the inside.

920
00:31:01,822 --> 00:31:02,489
Okay. Yeah. All right. Now I

921
00:31:02,489 --> 00:31:03,890
understand that we have any

922
00:31:03,890 --> 00:31:05,489
other questions for the

923
00:31:08,289 --> 00:31:10,422
applicant. All right. Thank

924
00:31:10,422 --> 00:31:11,255
you. Thank you. We will open

925
00:31:11,255 --> 00:31:13,560
up the public hearing at this

926
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:13,789
time. If we have anyone who

927
00:31:13,789 --> 00:31:16,856
like to speak in favor of this

928
00:31:16,856 --> 00:31:17,456
happened. Please come up and

929
00:31:17,456 --> 00:31:20,456
state your name for the

930
00:31:23,989 --> 00:31:24,422
record. My name is Damon

931
00:31:24,422 --> 00:31:25,122
Spears.

932
00:31:25,122 --> 00:31:28,122
>> And I mean, House number 9

933
00:31:29,589 --> 00:31:30,323
right there on the couple

934
00:31:30,323 --> 00:31:31,560
houses down from break. And my

935
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,323
wife and agree that, you know,

936
00:31:33,323 --> 00:31:35,323
have a storage unit there to

937
00:31:35,323 --> 00:31:35,889
be able to put things and he's

938
00:31:35,889 --> 00:31:36,589
he's amassed. I think

939
00:31:36,589 --> 00:31:39,356
everybody in this room has a

940
00:31:39,356 --> 00:31:40,230
place that they store stuff.

941
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:43,189
And and I'll take it asking

942
00:31:43,189 --> 00:31:44,756
too much. So I would

943
00:31:44,756 --> 00:31:45,489
appreciate if you guys could

944
00:31:45,489 --> 00:31:46,956
strongly considered great have

945
00:31:46,956 --> 00:31:48,356
storage unit there to but

946
00:31:48,356 --> 00:31:50,223
things having it outside. So

947
00:31:50,223 --> 00:31:53,823
thank you so much. Thank you,

948
00:31:54,256 --> 00:31:54,956
sir.

949
00:31:54,956 --> 00:31:55,690
>> Would anyone else like to

950
00:31:55,690 --> 00:31:59,890
step up and speak in the favor

951
00:32:01,323 --> 00:32:01,957
of this? Would anyone like to

952
00:32:01,957 --> 00:32:04,957
speak up in opposition of

953
00:32:08,690 --> 00:32:11,900
this? Seeing none. We will

954
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:11,790
close that segment go to

955
00:32:11,790 --> 00:32:13,257
discussion board that we have

956
00:32:13,257 --> 00:32:15,657
any discussion comments. Or

957
00:32:16,857 --> 00:32:20,457
motions. We like to make. I

958
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:22,240
agree with that I.

959
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:22,724
>> Have a lot of heart from

960
00:32:22,724 --> 00:32:23,357
with the building being right

961
00:32:23,357 --> 00:32:26,957
on the property line. I I

962
00:32:28,857 --> 00:32:30,724
just. I can do that. So I'm

963
00:32:30,724 --> 00:32:32,390
just I feel like it needs to

964
00:32:32,390 --> 00:32:34,790
moved 5 foot, 3 5 foot with

965
00:32:38,591 --> 00:32:39,257
the ideal. Like a side lot.

966
00:32:39,257 --> 00:32:42,570
Being right on the property

967
00:32:42,570 --> 00:32:43,957
line is just. A permanent

968
00:32:43,957 --> 00:32:46,391
structure should not be there.

969
00:32:46,391 --> 00:32:48,791
>> You're saying 5 foot in

970
00:32:51,124 --> 00:32:52,124
towards the other.

971
00:32:52,124 --> 00:32:52,791
>> I mean, either make the

972
00:32:52,791 --> 00:32:55,791
shed smaller or shift at 5

973
00:32:56,424 --> 00:32:59,791
feet like. I mean, that's kind

974
00:32:59,791 --> 00:33:00,524
of up to the owner. But

975
00:33:00,524 --> 00:33:02,924
permanent structure should not

976
00:33:07,191 --> 00:33:07,791
be on The property line.

977
00:33:07,791 --> 00:33:09,791
>> Any other thoughts,

978
00:33:10,591 --> 00:33:12,591
comments otherwise?

979
00:33:13,891 --> 00:33:15,580
>> I don't have any feelings

980
00:33:15,580 --> 00:33:16,250
on the the property line. But

981
00:33:16,250 --> 00:33:18,580
with most of these variants,

982
00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:19,991
as we look at that have to do

983
00:33:19,991 --> 00:33:22,391
with historical, my feelings

984
00:33:22,491 --> 00:33:23,920
is good with that, too.

985
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,925
Maintain their being a

986
00:33:24,925 --> 00:33:27,892
historical home there. So. We

987
00:33:27,892 --> 00:33:31,158
do approve it. I like to add

988
00:33:31,158 --> 00:33:31,892
the condition of like the

989
00:33:31,892 --> 00:33:32,558
existing footprint and high to

990
00:33:32,558 --> 00:33:34,958
that structure remaining in

991
00:33:35,358 --> 00:33:37,425
place. The house was ever torn

992
00:33:37,425 --> 00:33:40,425
down to build something new.

993
00:33:44,325 --> 00:33:46,920
Variants wouldn't. We need to

994
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,692
make a change for the setback.

995
00:33:52,259 --> 00:33:54,659
I don't disagree with.

996
00:33:57,659 --> 00:33:58,359
>> Other comments. Do we have

997
00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:01,359
any motions anyone would like

998
00:34:10,226 --> 00:34:10,959
to make evening? All right.

999
00:34:10,959 --> 00:34:11,626
I'm sorry to see no motion. We

1000
00:34:11,626 --> 00:34:12,992
will not be able to approve

1001
00:34:12,992 --> 00:34:15,392
variance this evening. And

1002
00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:24,626
even into the next. Zb to 6

1003
00:34:24,959 --> 00:34:25,493
Dash, 0, 0, 1, 0, All the

1004
00:34:25,493 --> 00:34:26,193
public hearing and

1005
00:34:26,193 --> 00:34:28,126
consideration of the request

1006
00:34:28,126 --> 00:34:30,959
for a variance from Section 1,

1007
00:34:30,959 --> 00:34:32,426
4, 4, that's 5 dot for e to

1008
00:34:32,426 --> 00:34:34,160
allow detached excess

1009
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,260
restructure to exceed the

1010
00:34:36,260 --> 00:34:38,126
height. The main dwelling by

1011
00:34:38,126 --> 00:34:41,126
10 feet. One, the ends within

1012
00:34:43,493 --> 00:34:45,426
the are one 86 0.6

1013
00:34:45,426 --> 00:34:47,293
single-family residential

1014
00:34:47,293 --> 00:34:49,293
district currently addressed

1015
00:34:52,327 --> 00:34:53,627
at. 31 want to come and drive.

1016
00:34:53,627 --> 00:34:54,727
>> The subject property is

1017
00:34:54,727 --> 00:34:55,460
developed with the 1200 Square

1018
00:34:55,460 --> 00:34:57,860
Foot. Single-family home built

1019
00:35:00,327 --> 00:35:00,960
in 1960. It is owned are one a

1020
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,360
6.6 and is surrounded by

1021
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,127
similar single-family zoning

1022
00:35:06,127 --> 00:35:07,827
structures. The applicant

1023
00:35:07,827 --> 00:35:08,460
proposes a detached two-storey

1024
00:35:08,460 --> 00:35:10,860
structure that includes a

1025
00:35:11,260 --> 00:35:11,927
garage on the ground floor and

1026
00:35:11,927 --> 00:35:14,527
in excess retooling unit on

1027
00:35:14,527 --> 00:35:16,660
the second floor. As shown in

1028
00:35:16,660 --> 00:35:19,360
the photos, the property is a

1029
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,527
corner lot with significant

1030
00:35:21,527 --> 00:35:22,560
setback constraints. A 25 foot

1031
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,727
front setback along the North

1032
00:35:23,727 --> 00:35:25,661
West frontage and a 15 foot

1033
00:35:25,661 --> 00:35:28,661
corner set site setback along

1034
00:35:29,327 --> 00:35:29,927
the southern frontage these

1035
00:35:29,927 --> 00:35:31,927
limitations reduce the

1036
00:35:32,727 --> 00:35:34,727
buildable area of the law. The

1037
00:35:34,727 --> 00:35:37,940
site plan shows the location

1038
00:35:37,940 --> 00:35:37,694
of the proposed to story

1039
00:35:37,694 --> 00:35:39,694
accessory, building the

1040
00:35:41,610 --> 00:35:42,394
structure would be 22 feet.

1041
00:35:42,394 --> 00:35:43,528
One inch tall, which exceeds

1042
00:35:43,528 --> 00:35:46,528
the height of the existing 12

1043
00:35:47,428 --> 00:35:49,394
that tall home. And the

1044
00:35:49,394 --> 00:35:50,794
applicant is requesting a

1045
00:35:50,794 --> 00:35:52,728
Hyperion to 10 feet one inch

1046
00:35:52,728 --> 00:35:54,594
to accommodate both the garage

1047
00:35:54,594 --> 00:35:56,328
and the accessory dwelling

1048
00:35:56,328 --> 00:35:56,995
unit with one combined

1049
00:35:56,995 --> 00:35:57,661
building placed in the rear

1050
00:35:57,661 --> 00:36:00,228
yard. As shown on the site

1051
00:36:00,228 --> 00:36:02,828
plan. The rear lot could not

1052
00:36:02,828 --> 00:36:04,995
sustain the building at 2

1053
00:36:04,995 --> 00:36:06,228
separate structures because it

1054
00:36:06,228 --> 00:36:06,895
would exceed the lot coverage

1055
00:36:06,895 --> 00:36:09,228
for accessory structures in

1056
00:36:09,228 --> 00:36:11,628
the rear yard. These

1057
00:36:16,428 --> 00:36:17,950
elevations. Illustrate the

1058
00:36:17,950 --> 00:36:18,661
scale and appearance of the

1059
00:36:18,661 --> 00:36:20,661
proposed 2 story, accessory

1060
00:36:21,361 --> 00:36:22,795
structure window placement has

1061
00:36:22,795 --> 00:36:23,428
been intentionally

1062
00:36:23,428 --> 00:36:25,428
intentionally designed to

1063
00:36:26,262 --> 00:36:28,295
maintain privacy by voting

1064
00:36:28,295 --> 00:36:30,195
avoiding direct views into

1065
00:36:30,195 --> 00:36:31,162
neighboring properties and the

1066
00:36:31,162 --> 00:36:32,929
proposed structure would meet

1067
00:36:32,929 --> 00:36:35,329
all setback requirements for

1068
00:36:36,228 --> 00:36:37,429
detached, accessory buildings.

1069
00:36:37,429 --> 00:36:38,695
The request is consistent with

1070
00:36:38,695 --> 00:36:41,229
the spirit of the ordinance in

1071
00:36:41,229 --> 00:36:42,295
aligns with the draft lto

1072
00:36:42,295 --> 00:36:44,695
which proposes a uniform. 35

1073
00:36:45,962 --> 00:36:46,562
foot high cap for all

1074
00:36:46,562 --> 00:36:47,562
residential structures,

1075
00:36:47,562 --> 00:36:49,562
including accessory structures

1076
00:36:51,362 --> 00:36:52,429
on residential lot. The

1077
00:36:52,429 --> 00:36:53,162
applicant states at the height

1078
00:36:53,162 --> 00:36:56,162
variances necessary due to the

1079
00:36:56,796 --> 00:36:58,929
lots restrictive setbacks and

1080
00:36:58,929 --> 00:37:00,996
the low height of the existing

1081
00:37:00,996 --> 00:37:02,129
home and the need to combine

1082
00:37:02,129 --> 00:37:05,129
the garage and the accessory

1083
00:37:06,596 --> 00:37:07,496
dwelling into one structure.

1084
00:37:07,496 --> 00:37:10,195
Public notices were sent to 22

1085
00:37:10,195 --> 00:37:11,296
surrounding property owners

1086
00:37:11,296 --> 00:37:13,696
and staff received 9 mailed-in

1087
00:37:15,630 --> 00:37:16,630
responses in favor of the

1088
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:18,562
request and one in opposition

1089
00:37:18,562 --> 00:37:20,196
as shown on the response map.

1090
00:37:20,196 --> 00:37:21,329
The applicant is here to

1091
00:37:21,329 --> 00:37:22,630
discuss their request. And I

1092
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:25,630
can also answer any questions

1093
00:37:26,763 --> 00:37:30,363
for staff. Thank you, We have

1094
00:37:32,463 --> 00:37:33,196
any questions for staff on

1095
00:37:33,196 --> 00:37:36,196
>> It's a one story. Is

1096
00:37:37,130 --> 00:37:37,796
existing dwelling and this

1097
00:37:37,796 --> 00:37:40,796
because it's one story. The

1098
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:45,663
atu can't be higher than that.

1099
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:47,797
Why So a lot of houses over 2

1100
00:37:47,797 --> 00:37:49,970
stories. So the property owner

1101
00:37:49,970 --> 00:37:50,830
has stated that they need a

1102
00:37:50,830 --> 00:37:51,163
garage or covered, you know,

1103
00:37:51,163 --> 00:37:52,730
garage.

1104
00:37:52,730 --> 00:37:55,430
>> And so what they wanted to

1105
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:56,430
do is combine and also a space

1106
00:37:56,430 --> 00:37:58,263
for children or family

1107
00:37:58,263 --> 00:38:00,663
relatives for an accessory

1108
00:38:01,930 --> 00:38:04,930
dwelling It's very it's very

1109
00:38:05,930 --> 00:38:06,597
common that people do it

1110
00:38:06,597 --> 00:38:08,997
downstairs garage with the

1111
00:38:11,730 --> 00:38:12,330
apartment above. And and so

1112
00:38:12,330 --> 00:38:14,197
because there's so much

1113
00:38:14,197 --> 00:38:14,764
limited space in the rear

1114
00:38:14,764 --> 00:38:16,297
yard. We also have a

1115
00:38:16,297 --> 00:38:18,697
requirement that you cannot

1116
00:38:18,864 --> 00:38:21,731
cover more than 30% of the

1117
00:38:21,731 --> 00:38:22,431
backyard. So that in addition

1118
00:38:22,431 --> 00:38:24,310
to what they're trying to add

1119
00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:26,564
on the property, you can also

1120
00:38:26,564 --> 00:38:28,397
only have 2 accessory

1121
00:38:28,397 --> 00:38:31,997
structures in a rear yard and

1122
00:38:32,297 --> 00:38:32,964
this would be one. But it

1123
00:38:32,964 --> 00:38:34,731
would be a combined one in

1124
00:38:34,731 --> 00:38:36,364
instead of like spreading it

1125
00:38:36,364 --> 00:38:38,331
out and covering the entire

1126
00:38:38,331 --> 00:38:41,331
backyard, which would not be

1127
00:38:41,931 --> 00:38:44,931
allowed there proposing to go

1128
00:38:44,964 --> 00:38:46,131
up right and and do still have

1129
00:38:46,131 --> 00:38:47,664
a question related to that.

1130
00:38:47,664 --> 00:38:50,640
Well, because it's 10 foot

1131
00:38:50,631 --> 00:38:51,898
above the existing So

1132
00:38:51,898 --> 00:38:54,565
>> is it because the existing

1133
00:38:54,565 --> 00:38:56,798
home is only one story and

1134
00:38:56,798 --> 00:38:57,498
that's so so there is a

1135
00:38:57,498 --> 00:38:59,980
requirement in the code which

1136
00:38:59,980 --> 00:39:01,498
is in the caption.

1137
00:39:03,598 --> 00:39:04,498
>> It's a section that states

1138
00:39:04,498 --> 00:39:05,465
that any excess restructure,

1139
00:39:05,465 --> 00:39:06,865
any building that you would

1140
00:39:06,865 --> 00:39:09,698
put in your backyard like a

1141
00:39:09,698 --> 00:39:11,765
storage shed. It cannot exceed

1142
00:39:11,765 --> 00:39:13,498
the height of the main home.

1143
00:39:13,498 --> 00:39:14,231
Okay. Got it. And that's why

1144
00:39:14,231 --> 00:39:14,932
anything that would even if it

1145
00:39:14,932 --> 00:39:16,650
was just one foot over, we

1146
00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:19,665
would be they would have to

1147
00:39:19,665 --> 00:39:20,898
request a variance, but

1148
00:39:20,898 --> 00:39:22,465
they're adding an extra story.

1149
00:39:22,465 --> 00:39:25,332
So that's where the 10 feet

1150
00:39:25,332 --> 00:39:28,932
one inch times in a clay.

1151
00:39:30,165 --> 00:39:30,899
explained.

1152
00:39:30,899 --> 00:39:32,632
>> You know, it's going to ask

1153
00:39:32,632 --> 00:39:33,799
so it's.

1154
00:39:33,799 --> 00:39:36,799
>> It's being attached to the

1155
00:39:37,399 --> 00:39:38,365
main structure

1156
00:39:38,365 --> 00:39:39,299
>> No, they would not be able

1157
00:39:39,299 --> 00:39:42,899
to attach it to the main

1158
00:39:44,799 --> 00:39:46,632
structure because so they they

1159
00:39:46,632 --> 00:39:48,765
have a line between images,

1160
00:39:48,765 --> 00:39:49,599
the distance. They're not

1161
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:50,299
attaching it to the main

1162
00:39:50,299 --> 00:39:50,999
structure. If they did, they

1163
00:39:50,999 --> 00:39:54,599
would have to have a 20 foot

1164
00:39:55,866 --> 00:39:57,990
set back any Maine structure

1165
00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:59,233
would require it to be set

1166
00:39:59,233 --> 00:40:00,660
back 20 feet and that there

1167
00:40:00,660 --> 00:40:03,660
isn't that much room back

1168
00:40:03,499 --> 00:40:04,199
there to be able to

1169
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:04,832
accommodate that. It would be

1170
00:40:04,832 --> 00:40:07,232
part of remained willing,

1171
00:40:07,799 --> 00:40:09,799
okay.

1172
00:40:10,633 --> 00:40:12,990
>> Yeah. It's going to ask to

1173
00:40:12,990 --> 00:40:13,233
could receive that opposition

1174
00:40:13,233 --> 00:40:15,700
card. If put in a car it or

1175
00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:19,533
no, sir, I didn't bring I can

1176
00:40:19,533 --> 00:40:22,366
pull it up on agenda packet

1177
00:40:22,366 --> 00:40:24,466
does anybody have a copy of 4

1178
00:40:24,466 --> 00:40:26,333
o'clock email you got to He

1179
00:40:26,333 --> 00:40:27,733
yes to End up acting on lines

1180
00:40:27,733 --> 00:40:29,666
and have the opposition want

1181
00:40:29,666 --> 00:40:30,466
to add all the approval ones,

1182
00:40:30,466 --> 00:40:31,633
but not the. So if I remember

1183
00:40:31,633 --> 00:40:32,900
correctly, the opposition one

1184
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:34,400
that came through that email

1185
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,500
today. So I think it was from

1186
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:37,900
the neighbor would be on top

1187
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:38,566
of this picture about privacy

1188
00:40:38,566 --> 00:40:39,233
concerns. And I think they

1189
00:40:39,233 --> 00:40:41,600
could see into house lives

1190
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,467
with

1191
00:40:43,467 --> 00:40:45,867
>> Got it. Yeah, you're

1192
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:47,367
correct. There is that was

1193
00:40:47,367 --> 00:40:48,300
email sent out with all of the

1194
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:48,967
and up to date a male e mail

1195
00:40:48,967 --> 00:40:50,334
notices that we received in

1196
00:40:50,334 --> 00:40:51,800
one of them.

1197
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,700
>> Was in opposition and it

1198
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:55,700
stated to what you just

1199
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:57,734
mentioned. And I can go back

1200
00:40:57,734 --> 00:41:01,340
to that response map so you

1201
00:41:01,340 --> 00:41:01,700
can see it there.

1202
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:04,700
>> a rethink a vacancy and

1203
00:41:04,967 --> 00:41:07,967
they're up Yes. Any other

1204
00:41:08,334 --> 00:41:09,634
questions for staff over here?

1205
00:41:09,634 --> 00:41:10,301
>> Mary MAY not know, but

1206
00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:13,670
there's an existing tree on

1207
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:15,967
the lot. And I assume that

1208
00:41:15,967 --> 00:41:17,340
it's going to be completely

1209
00:41:17,340 --> 00:41:18,867
removed. Let the applicant

1210
00:41:18,867 --> 00:41:21,667
speak to the treaty. In just

1211
00:41:21,667 --> 00:41:22,568
to let you know that

1212
00:41:22,568 --> 00:41:23,734
residential

1213
00:41:23,734 --> 00:41:25,734
>> development, they are

1214
00:41:25,734 --> 00:41:26,334
allowed by right to remove

1215
00:41:26,334 --> 00:41:29,101
trees or shrubs for the

1216
00:41:29,101 --> 00:41:31,101
development of. Buildings

1217
00:41:33,201 --> 00:41:34,968
things on the lot. There would

1218
00:41:34,968 --> 00:41:36,100
not be any mitigation that

1219
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:36,934
would be required. Not at this

1220
00:41:36,934 --> 00:41:39,934
time under our current code.

1221
00:41:40,435 --> 00:41:43,435
Okay. All right. Any other

1222
00:41:43,801 --> 00:41:44,501
questions for staff?

1223
00:41:44,501 --> 00:41:46,601
>> Okay. At the Avenue would

1224
00:41:46,601 --> 00:41:47,535
like to come up and speak on

1225
00:41:47,535 --> 00:41:48,268
your behalf. Just state your

1226
00:41:48,268 --> 00:41:51,868
name. For the record. Come up,

1227
00:41:55,268 --> 00:41:57,268
please. That's

1228
00:41:59,168 --> 00:42:00,368
>> Jana Prof the owner. First

1229
00:42:00,368 --> 00:42:01,968
want to start off by saying

1230
00:42:01,968 --> 00:42:05,435
thank you to marry. She's been

1231
00:42:05,435 --> 00:42:08,302
so wonderful. Lovely in. As

1232
00:42:08,302 --> 00:42:09,601
completely naive citizens.

1233
00:42:09,601 --> 00:42:13,201
Coming to the so blind. She's

1234
00:42:14,735 --> 00:42:16,302
been of sync. Okay. So just

1235
00:42:16,302 --> 00:42:19,902
for a quick statement, I guess

1236
00:42:21,502 --> 00:42:22,769
the necessity. Is it for the

1237
00:42:22,769 --> 00:42:25,169
last 15 years, 3 things have

1238
00:42:26,569 --> 00:42:27,269
been true about my family. My

1239
00:42:27,269 --> 00:42:27,969
husband is worked out of town

1240
00:42:27,969 --> 00:42:31,569
over half the month and we've

1241
00:42:32,802 --> 00:42:33,536
had.

1242
00:42:33,536 --> 00:42:34,236
>> Separate little one-bedroom

1243
00:42:34,236 --> 00:42:37,836
house that he lived in place

1244
00:42:37,869 --> 00:42:38,536
us when he was gone. We've

1245
00:42:38,536 --> 00:42:40,303
always had over 800 square

1246
00:42:40,303 --> 00:42:42,536
feet of storage for my

1247
00:42:42,536 --> 00:42:43,269
husband, blue collar man to

1248
00:42:43,269 --> 00:42:47,269
have all the things all of the

1249
00:42:47,269 --> 00:42:49,536
welding equipment, the drill

1250
00:42:49,536 --> 00:42:50,402
press, the power washer. The

1251
00:42:50,402 --> 00:42:51,103
thing that most people would

1252
00:42:51,103 --> 00:42:51,736
run to my husband owns and it

1253
00:42:51,736 --> 00:42:54,936
is to improve our home to

1254
00:42:54,936 --> 00:42:57,336
improve our neighbors. Homes.

1255
00:42:59,169 --> 00:43:01,300
And number 3, my boys of all,

1256
00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:02,303
we shared a room with bin a 5

1257
00:43:02,303 --> 00:43:05,303
person family in a 3 bedroom

1258
00:43:09,936 --> 00:43:10,969
house. Our entire lives. Last

1259
00:43:10,969 --> 00:43:11,736
AUGUST. My husband actually

1260
00:43:11,736 --> 00:43:12,670
got a job in New Braunfels

1261
00:43:12,670 --> 00:43:14,636
area that allowed him to move

1262
00:43:14,636 --> 00:43:17,636
home more permanently. We did

1263
00:43:18,570 --> 00:43:19,403
not sell. The home that he was

1264
00:43:19,403 --> 00:43:22,637
living in place is for this

1265
00:43:22,637 --> 00:43:24,470
last year. Wall. Sure that

1266
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:25,170
this job was going to be good.

1267
00:43:25,170 --> 00:43:27,537
We're going to still be able

1268
00:43:27,537 --> 00:43:31,137
to make ends meet with this

1269
00:43:32,537 --> 00:43:33,203
job and and we still have that

1270
00:43:33,203 --> 00:43:33,871
storage. But he has so many

1271
00:43:33,871 --> 00:43:34,837
things that he needs having

1272
00:43:34,837 --> 00:43:37,837
this. And we've also been.

1273
00:43:39,904 --> 00:43:41,337
Paying for storage unit. And

1274
00:43:41,337 --> 00:43:41,970
so we knew that a garage was

1275
00:43:41,970 --> 00:43:44,537
going to be an immediate

1276
00:43:44,537 --> 00:43:46,504
necessity for him to be home.

1277
00:43:46,504 --> 00:43:47,137
And so when we started the

1278
00:43:47,137 --> 00:43:49,104
process initially back in

1279
00:43:49,104 --> 00:43:52,370
FEBRUARY of just first making

1280
00:43:52,370 --> 00:43:52,937
the plan to just get a garage

1281
00:43:52,937 --> 00:43:53,604
built where the concrete

1282
00:43:53,604 --> 00:43:54,337
existing concrete driveway

1283
00:43:54,337 --> 00:43:57,937
isn't that back portion of the

1284
00:43:58,704 --> 00:43:59,304
House? Of a lot? And we were

1285
00:43:59,304 --> 00:44:01,304
talking initially with

1286
00:44:02,604 --> 00:44:03,304
contractors. It was that at

1287
00:44:03,304 --> 00:44:05,104
that time I think brought to

1288
00:44:05,104 --> 00:44:06,204
this level detention and one

1289
00:44:06,204 --> 00:44:09,204
of the contractors came and

1290
00:44:09,771 --> 00:44:10,471
spoke with her and was like

1291
00:44:10,471 --> 00:44:11,738
note that we're not going to

1292
00:44:11,738 --> 00:44:12,471
be able to build a garage

1293
00:44:12,471 --> 00:44:13,804
there. There's no room for you

1294
00:44:13,804 --> 00:44:17,404
to build a garage. There. And

1295
00:44:21,738 --> 00:44:22,471
so. We knew also. My oldest is

1296
00:44:22,471 --> 00:44:23,171
17 in the senior and his

1297
00:44:23,171 --> 00:44:25,504
brother that he shares a room

1298
00:44:25,504 --> 00:44:27,738
with the 16 and my daughter is

1299
00:44:27,738 --> 00:44:30,738
14. She's always had a room.

1300
00:44:33,104 --> 00:44:33,805
Writes, but we know that we're

1301
00:44:33,805 --> 00:44:34,505
coming to a point where we're

1302
00:44:34,505 --> 00:44:38,710
going to have not just 2 boys

1303
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:38,771
sharing a room. In within the

1304
00:44:38,771 --> 00:44:39,505
next 5 years. The plan was to

1305
00:44:39,505 --> 00:44:41,138
potentially at square footage.

1306
00:44:41,138 --> 00:44:43,538
Sure home. Where we're

1307
00:44:45,938 --> 00:44:47,138
building that would and rush

1308
00:44:47,138 --> 00:44:47,771
accessory apartment where we

1309
00:44:47,771 --> 00:44:49,338
could just have an extra

1310
00:44:49,338 --> 00:44:52,938
bedroom for a win. A married

1311
00:44:53,838 --> 00:44:56,380
couple comes to visit or child

1312
00:44:56,380 --> 00:44:56,405
boomerangs back and they need

1313
00:44:56,405 --> 00:44:57,105
a little

1314
00:44:57,105 --> 00:44:59,706
>> space. But a space that's

1315
00:44:59,706 --> 00:45:01,572
their own. And so we knew that

1316
00:45:01,572 --> 00:45:02,205
those 2 things we're going

1317
00:45:02,205 --> 00:45:04,605
need the necessities for

1318
00:45:05,390 --> 00:45:06,839
family. And when we found out

1319
00:45:06,839 --> 00:45:08,738
we couldn't have both because

1320
00:45:08,738 --> 00:45:11,738
of the lot restrictions or

1321
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:17,500
could have a garage. We had to

1322
00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:21,205
go up. There's just no way to

1323
00:45:25,206 --> 00:45:26,172
get both and not go up. The.

1324
00:45:26,172 --> 00:45:26,838
It is not going to be a garage

1325
00:45:26,838 --> 00:45:28,972
will not be a driveway. It

1326
00:45:28,972 --> 00:45:31,605
will be a shop and the

1327
00:45:31,605 --> 00:45:35,205
proposed back part of it was

1328
00:45:35,972 --> 00:45:36,672
so that my husband could have.

1329
00:45:36,672 --> 00:45:37,372
The shop door in the back so

1330
00:45:37,372 --> 00:45:38,540
that he could load and unload

1331
00:45:38,540 --> 00:45:39,539
it struck walking to and from

1332
00:45:39,539 --> 00:45:41,939
that from our existing

1333
00:45:44,273 --> 00:45:46,806
driveway. But it is not. It is

1334
00:45:46,806 --> 00:45:47,406
just a shop on the bottom. So

1335
00:45:47,406 --> 00:45:50,406
it's not really a rush

1336
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:51,906
apartment. And just to clarify

1337
00:45:51,906 --> 00:45:55,273
that when I was talking to

1338
00:45:55,273 --> 00:45:55,973
with our contractor, the cost

1339
00:45:55,973 --> 00:45:58,373
of raising our roof line and

1340
00:45:58,373 --> 00:45:59,306
elevating a roof line. He gave

1341
00:45:59,306 --> 00:46:02,240
a bit of an additional $80,000

1342
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:02,906
which is just when the whole

1343
00:46:02,906 --> 00:46:05,906
thing together is going to

1344
00:46:06,373 --> 00:46:08,773
cost. Maybe 200. Which is

1345
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,340
already a really tight stretch

1346
00:46:10,340 --> 00:46:11,600
to do all at once as opposed

1347
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,600
pacing it out over several

1348
00:46:16,673 --> 00:46:19,730
years. To raise the roof are

1349
00:46:19,730 --> 00:46:21,473
roofline cost prohibitive or

1350
00:46:23,907 --> 00:46:26,541
to add a second story is even.

1351
00:46:26,541 --> 00:46:29,140
And speaking to the tree and

1352
00:46:29,140 --> 00:46:29,873
that tree, would we are going

1353
00:46:29,873 --> 00:46:32,974
to have to take down no matter

1354
00:46:32,974 --> 00:46:35,740
what it is dropped. Lim twice

1355
00:46:35,740 --> 00:46:36,574
under House one on their the

1356
00:46:36,574 --> 00:46:38,974
opposition Benson broken that

1357
00:46:40,507 --> 00:46:41,107
fence once on that neighbor on

1358
00:46:41,107 --> 00:46:42,974
the night, large large

1359
00:46:42,974 --> 00:46:43,641
branches that have caused

1360
00:46:43,641 --> 00:46:44,941
damage to to a neighboring

1361
00:46:44,941 --> 00:46:47,941
properties and our own. And

1362
00:46:52,474 --> 00:46:53,140
so. I hate to lose a tree.

1363
00:46:53,140 --> 00:46:53,874
That is one that's going to

1364
00:46:53,874 --> 00:46:56,507
have to come down for just the

1365
00:46:56,507 --> 00:46:59,507
safety for safety reasons. For

1366
00:47:00,774 --> 00:47:03,174
neighborhood Harmony. I will

1367
00:47:03,908 --> 00:47:05,740
say, too, that as you

1368
00:47:05,740 --> 00:47:07,740
mentioned, there multiple

1369
00:47:07,141 --> 00:47:08,541
houses were 1960's whole

1370
00:47:08,541 --> 00:47:10,541
neighborhood with 1200 Square

1371
00:47:10,541 --> 00:47:14,141
foot homes as the majority of

1372
00:47:14,675 --> 00:47:15,374
our neighbors and just in the

1373
00:47:15,374 --> 00:47:17,374
little circle. It just go to

1374
00:47:17,374 --> 00:47:18,808
that little map. Welcome to

1375
00:47:18,808 --> 00:47:21,208
this one. That was good

1376
00:47:21,208 --> 00:47:21,908
enough. So in just a little

1377
00:47:21,908 --> 00:47:23,541
lot of coma, a little ashmore

1378
00:47:23,541 --> 00:47:24,274
circle there.

1379
00:47:24,274 --> 00:47:25,675
>> You know, there's been 4 or

1380
00:47:25,675 --> 00:47:28,175
5 homes that have been leveled

1381
00:47:28,175 --> 00:47:31,808
in a 2 story has been put up

1382
00:47:31,808 --> 00:47:32,441
in the its place and we want

1383
00:47:32,441 --> 00:47:33,208
we can afford a debt left

1384
00:47:33,208 --> 00:47:36,208
grows best in small houses.

1385
00:47:38,208 --> 00:47:40,800
But though it our neighborhood

1386
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,750
is still in harmony with those

1387
00:47:42,750 --> 00:47:43,942
people changes. We love those

1388
00:47:43,942 --> 00:47:44,608
neighbors. You know, those

1389
00:47:44,608 --> 00:47:45,975
neighbors invite the girls

1390
00:47:45,975 --> 00:47:46,575
next door in their 1200 Square

1391
00:47:46,575 --> 00:47:48,808
foot home to come play

1392
00:47:48,808 --> 00:47:49,542
pickleball in their backyard.

1393
00:47:49,542 --> 00:47:51,608
You know, one of the neighbors

1394
00:47:51,608 --> 00:47:52,309
that built a 2 story home that

1395
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:54,709
does overlook other people's

1396
00:47:56,642 --> 00:47:57,942
property. Hit. He says

1397
00:47:57,942 --> 00:47:59,900
Professor Texas State offered

1398
00:47:59,900 --> 00:47:59,975
to have my son who was

1399
00:47:59,975 --> 00:48:02,375
interested engineering. Come a

1400
00:48:02,442 --> 00:48:03,750
listen to will hit one of his

1401
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:04,109
lectures. They're lovely.

1402
00:48:04,109 --> 00:48:04,809
People were lovely

1403
00:48:04,809 --> 00:48:07,475
neighborhood in her money and

1404
00:48:07,475 --> 00:48:10,475
I'm not surprised. 9 of my

1405
00:48:10,509 --> 00:48:12,509
neighbors. Road in

1406
00:48:13,776 --> 00:48:14,409
specifically to say they were.

1407
00:48:14,409 --> 00:48:16,709
For us. We do. We're very

1408
00:48:16,709 --> 00:48:18,609
supportive community. And it

1409
00:48:18,609 --> 00:48:20,609
is a very supportive

1410
00:48:20,609 --> 00:48:21,242
neighborhood. And I will just

1411
00:48:21,242 --> 00:48:24,509
speak to the only one in

1412
00:48:24,509 --> 00:48:25,409
opposition. Is not a resident

1413
00:48:25,409 --> 00:48:27,477
of our neighborhood there. The

1414
00:48:27,477 --> 00:48:29,642
owner and their renters. Our

1415
00:48:29,642 --> 00:48:30,343
lovely newlywed couple who

1416
00:48:30,343 --> 00:48:33,943
went to high school my cousin

1417
00:48:34,243 --> 00:48:34,943
here at Canyon. And so. They

1418
00:48:34,943 --> 00:48:37,176
don't know us and they don't

1419
00:48:37,176 --> 00:48:40,176
know what we're doing either

1420
00:48:40,376 --> 00:48:42,109
to supporters are not support

1421
00:48:42,109 --> 00:48:44,576
us. We did take our neighbors

1422
00:48:44,576 --> 00:48:45,243
privacy into the most

1423
00:48:45,243 --> 00:48:45,910
consideration. The windows

1424
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:48,276
that are show are the only

1425
00:48:48,276 --> 00:48:50,410
ones that were putting on the

1426
00:48:50,410 --> 00:48:52,943
house and they overlook our

1427
00:48:52,943 --> 00:48:55,343
roof. We have 0 windows,

1428
00:48:55,543 --> 00:48:58,543
nothing along. Lot. 9 which is

1429
00:48:59,910 --> 00:49:00,943
13. We have 0 windows facing

1430
00:49:00,943 --> 00:49:02,543
that way and only like the

1431
00:49:02,543 --> 00:49:05,543
shower high high windows that

1432
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:08,110
would overlook lot 15. It's a

1433
00:49:08,110 --> 00:49:11,110
backyard. So there is a 0

1434
00:49:11,577 --> 00:49:12,543
visibility and we. Because we

1435
00:49:12,543 --> 00:49:13,243
love our neighbors and they

1436
00:49:13,243 --> 00:49:17,443
love us. We that was a big

1437
00:49:18,377 --> 00:49:21,977
part of our design plan. Thank

1438
00:49:22,144 --> 00:49:23,210
I'm ready.

1439
00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:26,210
>> Okay. Do we have any

1440
00:49:27,344 --> 00:49:28,210
questions for the applicant?

1441
00:49:28,210 --> 00:49:30,477
Question you mentioned looking

1442
00:49:30,477 --> 00:49:31,610
at raising the roof line, was

1443
00:49:31,610 --> 00:49:32,777
that exploring the option of

1444
00:49:32,777 --> 00:49:35,511
just adding on to the existing

1445
00:49:35,511 --> 00:49:36,211
home? Right? Just.

1446
00:49:36,211 --> 00:49:39,511
>> no to meet the hike to not

1447
00:49:39,511 --> 00:49:40,311
have to get a height variance.

1448
00:49:40,311 --> 00:49:40,977
We're told all of our roof

1449
00:49:40,977 --> 00:49:44,177
line was as high as what we

1450
00:49:44,177 --> 00:49:44,878
want to build. That we could

1451
00:49:44,878 --> 00:49:45,611
just raise our roof line and

1452
00:49:45,611 --> 00:49:48,477
we thought, well, that will be

1453
00:49:48,477 --> 00:49:49,177
the most affordable option

1454
00:49:49,177 --> 00:49:52,177
because we are adding second

1455
00:49:52,577 --> 00:49:55,478
story that I thought would be.

1456
00:49:55,478 --> 00:49:57,478
Would much more expensive.

1457
00:49:57,478 --> 00:49:59,844
That was the bit. What was to

1458
00:49:59,844 --> 00:50:01,512
raise or moved 10 feet just to

1459
00:50:01,512 --> 00:50:02,611
change the roof line. Not at

1460
00:50:02,611 --> 00:50:06,211
any but attic space. I guess

1461
00:50:07,678 --> 00:50:08,378
it's currently we have. 120

1462
00:50:08,378 --> 00:50:09,745
square feet of storage on our

1463
00:50:09,745 --> 00:50:12,145
property. One small shed 0

1464
00:50:13,611 --> 00:50:15,845
attic space because it's a 12

1465
00:50:15,845 --> 00:50:17,411
foot roofline. So there's like

1466
00:50:17,411 --> 00:50:18,450
2 to 3 feet of attic space. So

1467
00:50:18,450 --> 00:50:21,450
you can't even crawl. And

1468
00:50:21,511 --> 00:50:23,245
they're like it is. And so we

1469
00:50:23,245 --> 00:50:23,945
would have had expects if we

1470
00:50:23,945 --> 00:50:26,945
did that. But it was $80,000

1471
00:50:27,112 --> 00:50:30,712
for change. Was a bit. And

1472
00:50:34,411 --> 00:50:35,145
what it would really be. Thank

1473
00:50:35,145 --> 00:50:37,945
>> Any other questions for the

1474
00:50:37,945 --> 00:50:38,645
applicant?

1475
00:50:38,645 --> 00:50:40,812
>> So the existing shed that

1476
00:50:40,812 --> 00:50:41,912
you have on there that would

1477
00:50:41,912 --> 00:50:43,845
be removed. That's where the

1478
00:50:43,845 --> 00:50:47,445
new building with the rate Got

1479
00:50:52,112 --> 00:50:53,912
it. Thank Wonderful. Thank

1480
00:50:53,912 --> 00:50:54,512
you. This level at a general

1481
00:50:54,512 --> 00:50:56,912
question are maybe she

1482
00:50:57,713 --> 00:50:58,712
mentioned that dollar.

1483
00:50:58,712 --> 00:51:00,712
>> Proposing changing the

1484
00:51:00,812 --> 00:51:03,212
residential ordinance to be 35

1485
00:51:03,746 --> 00:51:05,179
feet. And I wouldn't have been

1486
00:51:05,179 --> 00:51:05,879
the assessor reverses original

1487
00:51:05,879 --> 00:51:08,279
building restriction. I wish

1488
00:51:09,146 --> 00:51:09,812
wear clarification on that.

1489
00:51:09,812 --> 00:51:10,479
>> Yes, we have a draft, a

1490
00:51:10,479 --> 00:51:11,179
land development ordinance

1491
00:51:11,179 --> 00:51:14,779
that we've been working on to

1492
00:51:14,979 --> 00:51:17,379
update all of our codes and in

1493
00:51:17,379 --> 00:51:18,120
the near future, we will

1494
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,180
hopefully council will be

1495
00:51:20,180 --> 00:51:21,846
adopting that in the proposal.

1496
00:51:21,846 --> 00:51:24,460
Is that all structures on the

1497
00:51:24,460 --> 00:51:25,130
lot would be. 35 feet height,

1498
00:51:25,130 --> 00:51:27,413
limit for residential for

1499
00:51:28,779 --> 00:51:29,479
these type of zoning.

1500
00:51:29,479 --> 00:51:30,112
>> The district's it wouldn't

1501
00:51:30,112 --> 00:51:32,846
have anything to do with

1502
00:51:32,846 --> 00:51:33,446
original height of my houses.

1503
00:51:33,446 --> 00:51:34,746
So when is it is that's

1504
00:51:34,746 --> 00:51:35,980
proposed. I will be well

1505
00:51:35,980 --> 00:51:38,280
within. We will be well

1506
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,880
within. That's a part of that.

1507
00:51:42,446 --> 00:51:43,180
But with that still. Does the

1508
00:51:43,180 --> 00:51:46,780
existing high for the house of

1509
00:51:49,146 --> 00:51:50,980
that? That 8 e u.

1510
00:51:50,980 --> 00:51:54,800
>> It can be 35 foot. Even the

1511
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:55,313
existing houses. 12 foot.

1512
00:51:55,313 --> 00:51:57,980
>> The other proposal would be

1513
00:51:57,980 --> 00:51:58,647
to not have that ruling. More

1514
00:51:58,647 --> 00:51:59,347
that rule dates back to the

1515
00:51:59,347 --> 00:52:01,800
60's, maybe even before that.

1516
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:02,800
And that's what the residents

1517
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:02,947
want to back them. That in one

1518
00:52:02,947 --> 00:52:03,647
accessory structures to be

1519
00:52:03,647 --> 00:52:04,247
told the main structure that

1520
00:52:04,247 --> 00:52:06,347
doesn't appear to be a

1521
00:52:06,347 --> 00:52:07,313
PRESIDENT Anymore. However. We

1522
00:52:07,313 --> 00:52:08,140
could be wrong there in the

1523
00:52:08,140 --> 00:52:11,140
residence. MAY still want to

1524
00:52:11,140 --> 00:52:11,747
rule like that. But that would

1525
00:52:11,747 --> 00:52:12,480
be a proposal that, of course,

1526
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,180
would still have to go through

1527
00:52:13,180 --> 00:52:14,114
planning Commission and City

1528
00:52:14,114 --> 00:52:17,114
Council final approval. I to

1529
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:18,880
Thank you. All right. Any

1530
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,280
other questions for the

1531
00:52:25,147 --> 00:52:25,780
applicant? Okay. We open up

1532
00:52:25,780 --> 00:52:26,481
the public hearing. Would

1533
00:52:26,481 --> 00:52:29,347
anyone like to come and speak

1534
00:52:29,347 --> 00:52:30,470
in favor of the application?

1535
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:33,647
Please come up and state your

1536
00:52:35,847 --> 00:52:37,347
name for the record. Some

1537
00:52:37,347 --> 00:52:40,947
Larry Hensley and I on the

1538
00:52:45,948 --> 00:52:47,948
property at 6.82 Ashmore.

1539
00:52:51,747 --> 00:52:53,148
>> Yes, it's number 7 I'm in

1540
00:52:53,148 --> 00:52:54,681
favor of this Our neighborhood

1541
00:52:54,681 --> 00:52:57,481
is is a very tight

1542
00:52:57,481 --> 00:52:59,314
neighborhood of that. The

1543
00:52:59,314 --> 00:53:01,714
people that actually own

1544
00:53:03,114 --> 00:53:03,748
properties, even the rivers in

1545
00:53:03,748 --> 00:53:04,415
the neighborhood are our

1546
00:53:04,415 --> 00:53:07,415
friends and get along real

1547
00:53:09,810 --> 00:53:12,548
well, I would hate to lose

1548
00:53:12,548 --> 00:53:13,215
this family from our

1549
00:53:13,215 --> 00:53:15,215
neighborhood because you're

1550
00:53:16,682 --> 00:53:19,820
denying them. The building

1551
00:53:21,782 --> 00:53:22,448
that they need to stay really.

1552
00:53:22,448 --> 00:53:24,581
They bought it when it was

1553
00:53:24,581 --> 00:53:26,581
affordable. Prices went

1554
00:53:27,348 --> 00:53:29,415
through the roof. You can't

1555
00:53:29,415 --> 00:53:30,982
what's happened in our

1556
00:53:30,982 --> 00:53:33,549
neighborhood is people come in

1557
00:53:33,549 --> 00:53:35,549
level of houses that are there

1558
00:53:35,549 --> 00:53:36,482
and build a two-storey, big

1559
00:53:36,482 --> 00:53:38,482
mansions and that's changing

1560
00:53:38,482 --> 00:53:41,482
the whole the home structure,

1561
00:53:42,116 --> 00:53:43,482
the neighborhood really?

1562
00:53:43,482 --> 00:53:45,782
They're what what it normally

1563
00:53:45,782 --> 00:53:47,749
people that are doing that are

1564
00:53:47,749 --> 00:53:48,849
retirees, older, older

1565
00:53:48,849 --> 00:53:49,482
individuals. And so we have no

1566
00:53:49,482 --> 00:53:51,882
kids in the neighborhood

1567
00:53:51,982 --> 00:53:54,249
except in this one little one

1568
00:53:54,249 --> 00:53:57,249
little area right there they

1569
00:53:59,349 --> 00:54:01,949
live and where my house it's

1570
00:54:01,949 --> 00:54:05,549
just it's a hardship to deny.

1571
00:54:06,490 --> 00:54:06,749
This storage because these

1572
00:54:06,749 --> 00:54:10,349
houses were built like in the

1573
00:54:12,182 --> 00:54:13,716
50's, 60's. They were built to

1574
00:54:13,716 --> 00:54:14,449
that standard. And today

1575
00:54:14,449 --> 00:54:16,490
standard is totally different.

1576
00:54:16,490 --> 00:54:19,649
All the stuff you have got

1577
00:54:20,830 --> 00:54:21,183
have a place to put your stuff

1578
00:54:21,183 --> 00:54:22,816
and there's there's no storage

1579
00:54:22,816 --> 00:54:23,516
for this property. So they

1580
00:54:23,516 --> 00:54:27,116
really need it. And we're in

1581
00:54:29,384 --> 00:54:30,830
favor. Thank you, sir. Winning

1582
00:54:30,830 --> 00:54:34,283
like else like to come up and

1583
00:54:34,850 --> 00:54:35,550
speak in favor of this. Okay.

1584
00:54:35,550 --> 00:54:38,383
Would anyone like to speak in

1585
00:54:38,383 --> 00:54:39,830
opposition of this? Seeing

1586
00:54:39,830 --> 00:54:42,830
none. We'll close the public

1587
00:54:42,850 --> 00:54:43,683
hearing. And go to the board

1588
00:54:43,683 --> 00:54:46,830
for discussion comments or

1589
00:54:52,550 --> 00:54:53,750
possibly a motion.

1590
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:54,450
>> I will. I'll start. I love

1591
00:54:54,450 --> 00:54:55,717
the street. That's one of the

1592
00:54:55,717 --> 00:54:56,450
hidden gems of New Braunfels

1593
00:54:56,450 --> 00:54:59,883
or look to buy few houses down

1594
00:54:59,883 --> 00:55:00,917
there over the past. 25 years

1595
00:55:00,917 --> 00:55:02,784
and I know exactly what she's

1596
00:55:02,784 --> 00:55:03,683
dealing with. Friend that was

1597
00:55:03,683 --> 00:55:07,283
right down the street side for

1598
00:55:08,117 --> 00:55:11,217
many of the area and it's hard

1599
00:55:11,217 --> 00:55:12,850
having kids and 4 kids myself,

1600
00:55:12,850 --> 00:55:13,784
you need a little extra room

1601
00:55:13,784 --> 00:55:17,384
and I don't have a problem

1602
00:55:18,510 --> 00:55:21,651
with this. What so ever? So

1603
00:55:22,651 --> 00:55:25,510
that that is my $0.02

1604
00:55:25,717 --> 00:55:26,951
>> I feel better with would

1605
00:55:26,951 --> 00:55:27,684
allow it in the future. So I

1606
00:55:27,684 --> 00:55:31,284
mean, it's code is headed that

1607
00:55:35,118 --> 00:55:38,118
direction. The cost of going

1608
00:55:40,618 --> 00:55:43,618
up. On existing homes. More

1609
00:55:44,718 --> 00:55:45,951
than just building a separate.

1610
00:55:45,951 --> 00:55:48,984
They're so in. Like you said

1611
00:55:48,984 --> 00:55:51,984
with a going through the

1612
00:55:52,118 --> 00:55:52,818
process anyway, for 35 foot. I

1613
00:55:52,818 --> 00:55:55,785
think I'm in I'm in agreement

1614
00:55:55,785 --> 00:55:57,785
with that.

1615
00:56:02,385 --> 00:56:04,318
>> We have an ongoing motion.

1616
00:56:04,318 --> 00:56:06,251
I'd like to make a motion to

1617
00:56:06,251 --> 00:56:07,385
approve the variance with the

1618
00:56:07,385 --> 00:56:08,180
condition that the main

1619
00:56:08,180 --> 00:56:10,418
dwelling remain. The same

1620
00:56:13,185 --> 00:56:16,185
height as it is to.

1621
00:56:19,685 --> 00:56:20,251
>> Second, the motion.

1622
00:56:20,251 --> 00:56:20,885
>> Do I Can I ask for

1623
00:56:20,885 --> 00:56:22,885
clarification? So you're

1624
00:56:24,652 --> 00:56:25,452
saying that? If they keep the

1625
00:56:25,452 --> 00:56:26,119
existing house that that's so

1626
00:56:26,119 --> 00:56:29,719
like in the future, if they

1627
00:56:30,552 --> 00:56:33,552
want to change that height.

1628
00:56:34,152 --> 00:56:36,285
>> thought was, again to this.

1629
00:56:36,285 --> 00:56:38,152
Going with the neighbors and

1630
00:56:38,152 --> 00:56:38,852
keeping the feeling of the

1631
00:56:38,852 --> 00:56:41,852
neighborhood again is to keep

1632
00:56:42,185 --> 00:56:42,919
from.

1633
00:56:42,919 --> 00:56:43,486
>> Uniformly. But they're not.

1634
00:56:43,486 --> 00:56:45,886
In for the additional

1635
00:56:50,252 --> 00:56:52,252
structure, not the.

1636
00:56:52,419 --> 00:56:54,219
>> You see as they want to

1637
00:56:54,219 --> 00:56:54,919
motion. We can have a second

1638
00:56:54,919 --> 00:56:55,486
edition of that is and that's

1639
00:56:55,486 --> 00:56:57,786
that's why one of the

1640
00:56:57,786 --> 00:56:58,486
clarification that he's like.

1641
00:56:58,486 --> 00:57:02,860
Saying that if in the future,

1642
00:57:02,152 --> 00:57:02,852
if they wanted to build up

1643
00:57:02,852 --> 00:57:05,852
they couldn't because of what

1644
00:57:06,353 --> 00:57:07,520
your motion is.

1645
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,520
>> issue variances so that we

1646
00:57:10,953 --> 00:57:11,753
have a second tools motion. We

1647
00:57:11,753 --> 00:57:12,386
do not. I was like ok with

1648
00:57:12,386 --> 00:57:15,386
another motion like to be

1649
00:57:16,719 --> 00:57:19,719
maintained. On the ocean isn't

1650
00:57:20,453 --> 00:57:22,920
approved as is. In the

1651
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:23,653
seconds. Quickly.

1652
00:57:23,653 --> 00:57:27,853
>> Ok, can I have a role? Call

1653
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,920
them? Member quickly? Number

1654
00:57:32,953 --> 00:57:35,353
Rams. Yes, member right

1655
00:57:37,553 --> 00:57:37,853
Members Trident. Yes. CHAIRMAN

1656
00:57:37,853 --> 00:57:38,487
Yes.

1657
00:57:38,487 --> 00:57:40,487
>> Congratulations. Your

1658
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,000
motion is passed. With that.