I now call this city council meeting to
order. August 17, 2026 at 6:00 p.m.
Ma'am.
>> Mayor Lindseay
>> here.
>> Councilman Cook
>> here.
>> Councilman Bond
>> here.
>> Councilwoman Gro present. Councilman
Wright
>> here. Council me here. Vice Mayor Cham
>> here.
Now we'll do the invocation with Pastor
Perry.
Dear heavenly father, we thank you today
for your loving kindness and for your
mercy. We thank you for this blessings
that you have given us today. We pray
that you would just conduct this help
the leaders of our community as they
conduct business tonight. May it be
something beneficial for our community.
Give them clarity of thought. Bless each
one who participates and thank you for
their leadership. Jesus name we pray.
Amen.
>> Amen.
» To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it
stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all.
I try to get that.
>> Uh, need action on regular meeting
minutes for 8326.
>> Some moved.
>> Second. [music]
>> I have a motion by Vice Mayor Shammy,
second by Miss Agelston.
>> Vice Mayor Shammy.
>> Oh, wait.
» Yeah. You said Aleston and then Sham.
>> Yeah.
>> Sham.
Eggles.
» She had I heard both of them at the same
time, so I picked one.
>> Mayor Lindseay,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Cook,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Bond,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Gro,
>> uh, abstain.
>> Councilwoman Wright,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Egston,
>> yes.
>> Vice Mayor Shammy,
>> yes.
» Any communications,
Mr. Hall.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of
council, members of the public.
Our departmental reports are attached to
your council packet. Um, I have most of
my directors here. If you have any
questions,
uh, do you have any questions on any of
our reports?
Any questions on any of the reports?
>> Mr. one. Um, I was looking at the the
mayor's report and it seems one was from
June and the other was it just seems
kind of late. Is there a problem or am I
missing something which is very
possible?
» That's a probably a mistake.
>> Do what?
>> That's a mistake.
>> Oh, okay. It's no biggie really. I just
>> Well, thank you for pointing that out
because it was people catch that. So,
>> okay.
>> Thanks for pointing that out.
>> Any other questions?
from council for the
manager?
>> I need a motion to approve the finance
report.
>> I moved.
>> Second.
>> Motion by Miss Agson, second by Vice
Mayor Shammy. Any questions?
>> Ma'am.
>> Mayor Lindseay.
>> Yes.
>> Councilman Cook.
>> Yes.
>> Councilman Bond.
>> Yes. Councilwoman Gro,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Rice,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Egleston,
>> yes.
>> Vice Mayor Shammy,
>> yes.
>> Motion to approve the mayor's uh
financial court court financials
moved.
>> Second.
>> Motion by Miss Agson. Second by Vice
Mayor Shammy, any questions, comments,
concerns? Ma'am,
>> Mayor Lindseay,
>> yes.
>> Counciloman Cook,
>> yes.
>> Counciloman Bond,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Gro,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Wright,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Egleston,
>> yes. Vice Mayor Tammy.
>> Yes.
>> Any committee reports.
» Comments from the members of the public.
>> I had a couple Excuse me, Mr. Mayor. I
had a couple discussion topics.
>> Okay. Go ahead, sir.
>> Um, so uh this is my first meeting here
in our uh new meeting hall. Uh coming
back from my vacation. Uh I did get some
feedback uh from Mr. Kiko, uh, the
mayor, a couple of the council members
about some things that we can do, you
know, preliminary while we're, you know,
taking in exactly what the renovations
and things like that are going to be.
Um, I know Mr. Kiko uh may have some
things to add to this, but the AC unit
wasn't working in the back hall or the
back of the building. That is the plan
to do executive sessions back there soon
as we can. uh this, you know, for those
who have been over at Heritage Hall,
typically we would have to ask the
public uh to leave the building. Um by
being able to utilize the back room, uh
the council uh can all go into the back
room. So, uh we have a dumpster that's
lined up, uh we have some stuff, uh some
of the old cushions and things like that we also think is contributing to
some of the smell that's going on. Those cushions are probably 50, 60 years
old. Um, I know he uh Mr. Kiko has
ordered uh some sort of air cleaning
device that should also kill a lot of
the bacteria, take the musk and must and
mold and things like that, the airborne
allergy type stuff uh to clean the air
out. Uh we're lining up a commercial
cleaner. Um this building was vacant for
a considerable amount of time before we
came back in. So, we're going to do a
deep clean of the windows, the walls,
the carpets, um, and things of that
nature. Am I missing anything else, Mr.
Kicko? No, I can just tell you that, uh,
I've been in this building a lot over
the last week or two, and I've noticed
the improvements just from they used to
set the AC about 80 or so by the papers
I have up here when they're not here,
and then drop it to that 72 73°. I think
that was a lot that contributed to it.
Now that we we're leaving them at about
73 uh 72 73, we I've already noticed in
the last couple weeks that it's starting
to get better um as it dehumidifiers or
dehumidifies.
Some of the other things too, um we uh
went ahead and ordered new audiovisisual
equipment. The sound seems to be one of
the bigger challenges in here. Um
uh so I know one of the things that
we're looking at is some heavy curtains
to go. We had our IT person come in and
kind of give us a survey of
recommendations that should help with
some of the acoustics with the echo in
here along with uh better mics uh
potentially to be able to amplify. We
may uh even go to like hot mic uh where
you have like a button that you hit when
you're about to speak and then that will
help amplify your voice.
>> [clears throat]
>> folks in the public, which I was going
to ask uh some of the folks in the
public, how c how is the uh can you hear
us? Okay. Do you feel okay? So, just letting you know, um you know, we
realize we're going into budget season.
Uh so, we're not, you know, looking to,
you know, sell the farm here or
anything, you know, spending money on
this building too high. Uh but we do
think there's a couple things we need to
do if we're going to have, you know,
professional atmosphere for meetings
like this. Uh the next thing uh that
came up was a recommendation from Mr.
Kiko. And this was honestly this was a
recommendation, not a recommendation
when I did his appraisal back last
November, December. Um I asked him, you
know, some of his goals and objectives
that he'd like to see done and I had him
give me, you know, kind of five-year,
one-year type objectives. One of the
things that he brought up was the water
hydraulic study.
um he's obviously much more intelligent
in speaking to it, but in layman's
terms, basically what this would do is
it would map out our city for for public
utilities with water. Um one of our
biggest challenges right now is
thinking, you know, we're working on our
comprehensive plan. We're talking about
the future, what we want, what we don't
want in town. Uh but the one of the
things that's most contingent upon any
sort of development northward is our
water. Um the elevation in town goes up
as you head north in town. Um and our
tower is out on Scarf Road. So the water
pressure is one of the things that that
we're concerned with or not necessarily
concerned, we just don't know. So this
hydraulic study would be able to give us
that type of information. It's a could
probably do it under my 50,000 spending
cap. But because this is a substantial
investment, I kind of wanted to talk to
you all about it before I would, you
know, spend taxpayer money on a study.
Um, I do think it would be extremely
useful. And if I'm missing anything, Mr.
Kicko, I just want to add that this
study doesn't just get shelf. This is a
live document. As in, uh, the minute
someone comes to us and says, "Hey, I
want to put a a brewery in, they use a
lot of water. We're going to use 100,000
gallons a day. Where is it going?" So
this location, we take it to the
engineer. They plug in all that
information and it will tell you
basically it's like Sim City. This docu
uh they'll be able to tell what will
happen if they pump at 2:00 a.m. pump at
5:00 a.m. pump in the middle of the
afternoon when everybody's taking a
shower, that type of thing. It will tell
anything and everything. If someone ever
decides they want to build something
that's three stories, four stories here
outside of what we already have, it can um you put that in a model and a
model will tell you what the things you
need to do a little more accurate than
just knowing your basic pressures, your
static pressures at your hydrants and
stuff like that. You know, we in the
city can't go around and mimic
everything that happens in town. So,
this uh model will do that and then as
it goes, it never it never dies. it it
just stays going as long as we keep
adding to it as we grow or if something
goes away we can take that away from the
model and uh keep moving forward with
it.
[clears throat]
>> Any questions on Mr. Bond?
>> Is this a like a computer program thing
or is this a service that we pay into or
>> it's a it's a program. So since there's
no annual fees, nothing like that to
maintain. It can be somewhat maintained
in house, but since we really don't have
an engineer on staff to input the
information into it, we will probably go
to the place where we got it um have it
built and do that.
>> So then will there be fees ongoing? Like
if we do need, hey, can you plug this
in? Is it like, okay, it's going to be
50 bucks every time we ask them to plug
this data in and give us a reading or
whatever.
>> Yes. Yes. No annual fees, but there will
be a cost to implement this and run the
model to see what it would do.
And do we know how much that is?
>> Um, it ranges. I mean, if you're going
to put in a m another major development,
you know, that could be a couple
thousand dollars. You put in uh just
building one home, things like that, you
don't have to do that, right?
>> But if there's some major industry that
wants to come in and use utilizes a lot
of water, then you would want this to be
able to be put in there.
>> To put in perspective, the entire cost,
so I could do it by sections like you
the the city existing now without the
developments would be about $25,000. So
you're looking at about 2500 rooftops,
$25,000,
probably looking about $1,000 a rooftop,
you know, when you add. But if you said,
and again, I don't want anybody, you
know, panicstricken or anything, but if
a Honda plant called up and that was
something you guys were like, hey, yeah,
we'd be interested in potentially, you
know, building this big plant, 500 jobs,
you know, that'd be something we'd be
interested in. We would have to pay for
this study before we would even be able
to get to the table with some with a
project like that.
Um,
>> and with a model, they can put it right
in it and not do another study.
>> Okay, gotcha.
>> So, it' be a long-term investment, a
long-term investment strategy. Plus, I
think our water capital is doing pretty
well now because of the developments
with the tap-ins and things like that.
So, this would be an investment through
the water department. Uh, and it's again
kind of getting us come, you know, into
[clears throat] the future, the, you
know, the cutting edge. This is what
other municipalities are utilizing. Um,
yeah. So that's kind of this I think the
entire cost if we did our current city
plus the developments plus anything you
know potential north that's within the
city proper uh would be about $56,000.
So we'd have to do legislation. I would
like to do it just you know let's you
know it doesn't really make a lot of
sense to just do the city and not do
north of town. So it would be
potentially upcoming legislation. I just
wanted to put it out there that we've
invested some time and resources into
looking into this and investing in this.
Um, but that may be, you know, some
legislation that's coming down the pike
here.
The uh on the fees to add say a
Honda or some manufacturer, could those
fees be passed off onto that business
somehow?
I would say initially no. I mean I don't
you know unless they're going to put
some uh pre let's say they had to be
annexed and you could put in the
pre-anexation agreement that we're going
to run a model to make sure you can fit
within our system and if it does fit
then it could be charged through you
know pre-negotiated uh you know fees
before annexation. Okay,
>> infrastructure costs things like that.
>> Okay. Hey, I was just trying to figure
out if there's some way instead of the
city paying for it that whoever
manufacturer or developer wanted to come
in that we could pass that fee on to
them to put them into our model.
>> And if I could just really quick, one of
the things that could come up with that
though is,
you know, something as substantial is
that we know that we're going to have to
make an investment in infrastructure for
water to support something like that.
But to what scale? Like if we need a
tower, how big of a tower? Um, so with
asking, we couldn't even get to the
pre-anexation agreement because that
would be one of the the stipulations of
services, you know, like, hey, I want to
annex this, you know, parcel of land
into the city to build this. Our counter
is, can we support it? And the answer
is, we can, but we're going to have to
invest in infrastructure. the model
tells us how much infrastructure we
would have to invest in.
>> Okay.
>> So that would be kind of how the
investment piece, you know, would work.
>> Okay.
>> So, sorry,
>> Mrs. R.
>> Well, that was kind of my question. You
sort of answered it because we know if
we need more water, we're going to have
to put a tower out that way. So, I just
didn't know if it was redundant to do
that and then have to put the tower in
anyway. What does a tower cost for a
smaller tower like the one on Scarf?
>> Oh, yeah. The one on the one
[clears throat] on scarf if you're I
just heard the per foot. Um you're
probably close to two mil 2 and a half
mil for a water tower. Wow. Okay.
>> Water towers are very expensive.
» How many gallons does that tower on
scarf hold?
>> It holds 1.7 million. Um you usable is
about a million or a little bit less.
And if we build a new tower, what would
size-wise would we have to go?
Guesstimate
>> minimum probably 250 probably to 500
500,000.
>> We have storage underground because we
have generator backup. So we meet the
minimum daily required uh storage that
if everything [clears throat] the tower
went empty, we could pump the system
from uh generator back up. Okay. Okay.
Mr. Halt, anything else?
>> That concludes the city manager report.
>> Anybody have any more questions for the
manager?
>> No,
>> I do have one more. It was about the
carpet. You said you were going to get
the carpet cleaned in here.
>> Um I don't know is is do we have wood
floors under here?
>> We're very curious to find out.
>> So I was underneath saw the initial
plank, but I don't know if there's
hardwood on top of those. They usually
go at an angle. Um, the ones underneath
run this direction with the building.
Typically, those would run on an angle
for hardwood and they're not. So, I
don't know what is really underneath
this.
>> Okay. I just It's a big expense. We're
probably going to have to replace this
carpet anyways. It's kind of dirty. I
don't know. Is it cost worthy to wash
it? That was my thought cuz cleaning
this is a very big carpet. It's And I
know a new carpet's going to be
expensive. Once I get the device in and
this may not be it, but we we know down
in the basement there's just old carpet.
This just laying in the middle where
everybody's been walking on and it's
dirty. It's concrete. We're going to get
that out of here first
>> and see if that is the I mean
>> they kept this clean cuz this is where
everybody occupied. So,
>> yeah, it's still carpet.
>> We're going to get the old stuff out,
the old old dirty stuff out first and
see.
>> Okay, good enough.
Okay. Uh, comments from the members of
the public. You're up. If anybody like
to come and say something,
» Janelle Zimmerman, 219 Apprentice Drive.
Um, I'd really like to say I was glad to
hear what you said about the things
you're going to be doing
uh to combat all this mustiness and
stuff. Last meeting I was at, I could
barely breathe in here. It's slightly
better tonight, but um that was one
thing that really concerned me about
getting this building is the money it's
going to take to keep it clean and keep
it, you know, it's a it's huge
buildings. That's going to just going to
be a lot. But I was glad to hear that
you're going to do all those things cuz
I think that's going to be really
helpful. Made me feel a lot better. So
I think that's all I wanted to comment
on. Oh, did they get that pothole fixed
out here?
>> Which pothole?
>> The one in the [laughter]
I got the point energy doing a lot of
work. So there see I sent you a message
about it about said let us know about
potholes and if you go down that alley
if you're not on the right side you
could lose your car cuz it's like this
big around and that deep
>> and so
I just went out that way last time I I
come in the other way but
>> you're talking about the alley here
>> right the alley here right
>> okay I'll make a note of it
>> okay yeah cuz it's not very nice to
invite people to come and then when they
leave they fall into that
But I think that I think that's all.
Thank you.
>> Thank you. Speaking of potholes, sir,
they uh there's an alley between
Corey and Smith. We've talked about it
before. I guess that holds back from
where the gravel was.
>> In my report, I had stated I would have
all the alleys, touchup of clay, and
church done by August 14th. And as you
know, we've been hit with the monsoons.
So now we're about we're close
[clears throat] to two weeks behind on
when that was supposed to be done.
>> Okay. Any other members of the public
like to speak this evening?
>> Hearing none. Ma'am,
» we'll go to resolutions.
[clears throat and cough]
» We have resolutions. We have three intro
and four action. Resolution 2026-17R.
Introduction on 83 of 26 public hearing
and action tonight. A resolution
adopting the 2027 to 2031 capital
improvement program for the city of New
Car, Ohio.
>> So move.
>> Second.
>> I have a motion by Vice Mayor Sham,
second by Mrs. Wright. Mr. Hall.
>> Yes. A summary of this. This is our uh
proposed capital improvement plan for
the next five years.
Um,
by state law, this has to be done 90
days before you approve the budget. So,
that's why we introduce it now. Um, I
know talking with some, uh, several of
the council members and over, you know,
the course of the last, you know, year,
we've talked about many different
capital projects to include this
building. Um, so I think as we go into
the budget season, you know, these these
this is, you know, just proposed numbers
in the capital improvement plan. Um, but
you know, make considerations about, you
know, the pool and, you know, some of
our other infrastructure in town and
things like that and we'll hash that
stuff out when we start doing dollars
and cents and the budget workshop.
>> Okay. Any questions for the manager?
>> Ma'am,
Councilwoman Egleston?
>> Yes.
Vice Mayor Tammy.
>> Yes.
>> Mayor Lindseay,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Cook,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Bond,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Gro,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Wright,
>> yes.
» Resolution 2026-20R,
introduction, public hearing, and action
tonight. A resolution adding an
authorized signatory for all financial
accounts of the city of Ukraine.
>> So move. Motion by Vice Mayor Shammy,
second by Miss Agelston.
Sir.
>> Uh, yes, Mr. Mayor. So, essentially what
this is is to add Mr. Nichols, our new
finance director, uh, to be able to sign
checks on all of our accounts.
>> And then it's also uh keeping the the
names that are uh currently on that
list.
>> Okay.
Any other questions, ma'am? Um, Mrs.
Wright,
>> I was just going to ask Miss Colleen's
name. um going to be removed then the
day she
>> when when we have to do this again in
January when she retires then we have to
do it again to remove her name and
because they have to go to the bank and
do all that so they'll have to sign all
new cards to my understanding
>> uh without uh Mrs. terrorist on there.
But until then, she's a signer.
>> Love her.
>> Ma'am,
>> Vice Mayor Shammy.
>> Yes.
>> Mayor Lindsay.
>> Yes.
>> Councilman Cook.
>> Yes.
>> Councilman Bond.
>> Yes.
>> Councilwoman Gro.
>> Yeah. Yes.
>> Councilwoman Wright.
>> Yes.
>> Councilwoman Edston.
>> Yes.
» Resolution 2026-21R.
Introduction public hearing and action
tonight. a resolution authorizing a
contract for the purchase of natural
gas.
>> Second motion by Miss Agson, second by
Vice Mayor Shami. Sir, so this summary
is going to bleed into the next
resolution. Uh, essentially IGS is our
energy provider for the city. Um, every
so many years we have to negotiate our
rates. Um, what the benefits of being in
the municipality is we have the ability
to negotiate and to lock in rates for a
certain period of time. Now, energy has
been a very interesting and a little bit
scary of a situation currently in our
country right now. Um, and data centers,
you know, while New Carile, you know,
the the council approved banning those,
we share a grid all the way to New York
City. So, we can't control data centers
that are going up all over the place in
Pennsylvania and Ohio and in the
Northeast. Um, and that has seen, you
know, a significant impact to energy
costs. That's where you're starting to
see, you know, and even the, you know,
some of the governors who are running
for the current race right now are
talking about making the energy
companies pay, you know, their portion
to reduce this this raise. So, there is
actually a reduction in our rates for
natural gas if you look at the
legislation, but there is an increase in
electrical. Um, percentage- wise, you're
looking at saving about 20% on your gas
bill, but your electric bill is going to
go up about 30%.
Um, one of the things that we negotiated
with this deal though that we didn't
have was first off at the trajectory
that we're going, it looks like energy
costs are just going to continue to go
up. So, I wanted to lock it in for 5
years to try to control that with the
caveat put into the contract that we at
if there's any drastic uh changes where
it's a reduction in the cost, we can
renegotiate our contract and freeze
those rates at that time. So, to me,
that was the best deal that I could come
up with negotiating with IGS. So, that's
again, like I said, first one's for gas,
second one's for electric. Um, so what
you got?
>> Any questions, Mrs. Right?
>> Uh, yeah. Um, you said we, and I'm
assuming you mean the city. Is there any
way that you can put all the citizens in
that same plan and get an even better
rate? I mean, I, for one, would like to
pay a lot less than I do right now. If the citizens in New Carl could
benefit by that arrangement, that would
be really nice.
>> So, for many years, Bethl Township has
the aggregation, which New Carlau was
part of. Um, so when you get that letter
in the mail, there is already an
aggregation um for residents. And if you
think that you might have an opportunity
to lower it than that, lower uh than
what you um Bezel Township has um
aggregated for, you can go to the Apples
to Apples website and search other ones.
Some have a monthly fee, some have an
annual fee. Uh some will be cheaper, but
it's only for a 3-month term. There's
various ones on there, but the general
um the one I get at my house is the same
one everybody here can opt in or opt
out. Um is the best rate currently
unless you want to do the tennis ball
thing of back and forth of uh changing
agreements and contracts on the apples
to apples website. So there is other
options. You just have to go through
those other suppliers um to do that. So,
this price will be on there next time we
look because this wasn't on there when I
looked not very long ago.
>> So, the municipality may get a little
bit lower um price, but they won't
negotiate that for all the residents.
They're aggregating on a completely
different thing. We have water plants,
wastewater plants, things like that. Um
but there are some actually cheaper than
this on the site. Like again, you can do
the 3 months.
>> Yeah. And and juggle uh juggling it
around.
>> Okay. Thanks. Any other questions,
comments? Ma'am,
>> Mayor Lindseay,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Cook,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Bond,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Gro,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Wright,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Egleston,
>> yes.
>> Vice Mayor Shammy,
>> yes.
» Resolution 2026-22R,
introduction, public hearing, and action
tonight. A resolution authorizing
contracts for the purchase of
electricity. So,
>> move second.
>> Motion by Vice Mayor Shami, second by
Miss Agelston.
Uh, I think the city manager already
answered uh this one. If there's any
questions
hearing none, ma'am.
>> Vice Mayor Shammy.
>> Yes.
>> Mayor Lindseay,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Cook,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Bond,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Gro,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Wright,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Egleston,
>> yes.
» For ordinances, we have two intro and
seven action. Ordinance 2026-24,
introduction on 83 of 26, public hearing
and action tonight. An ordinance
determining to proceed with the
improvement of certain public streets
located within the corporate limits of
the city of New Carlile, Ohio, and
within the reserves at Honey Creek
section one light section one street
lighting district by lighting them.
>> So move second.
>> Motion by Vice Mayor Shammy, second by
Miss Agelston. Sir.
>> Okay. So these ordinances are a
[clears throat] little goofy how the
state uh has us do these. This is for
our street light assessments. Basically
what this is doing is uh establishing uh
the reserves at Twin Creeks which is the
Dr. Horton development their street
light uh assessment. So this is for us
to proceed. You're going to see almost
well you it will be identical language
that's coming up in the next ordinance
and and that is for us to be able to
levy those assessments. So, first to
proceed, if it proceeds, do you want to
levy against them? And that would
establish the street light assessments
for Dr. Horton.
>> Any questions, comments,
>> ma'am?
>> Vice Mayor Shammy?
>> Yes.
>> Mayor Lindseay?
>> Yes.
>> Councilman Cook,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Bond,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Gro,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Wright,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Egleston,
>> yes.
Ordinance 2026-25,
introduction on 83 of 26, public hearing
and action tonight. An ordinance levying
assessments for the improvement of
certain public streets located within
the corporate limits of the city of New
Carile, Ohio, and within the reserves at
Honey Creek section 1 Street lighting
district by lighting them.
>> Move.
>> Motion by Vice Mayor Sammy, second by
Miss Agelson. And I think the manager's
already explained this one. Is there any
questions or comments on it? Hearing
none. Ma'am,
>> Vice Mayor Shammy,
>> yes.
>> Mayor Lindseay,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Cook,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Bond,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Grove,
>> yes. [clears throat]
>> Councilwoman Wright,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Egleston,
>> yes.
>> Ordinance 2026-26.
Ordinance introduction on 83 of 26,
public hearing and action tonight. An
ordinance determining to proceed with
the improvement of certain public
streets located within the corporate
limits of the city of New Carile, Ohio
by lighting them. Sir second.
>> Motion by Vice Mayor Shami, second by
Miss Agson. Sir.
>> Okay. Yeah. So, pretty much like uh the
one before. So, we're establishing uh
Dr. Horton. Now, we're talking about our
existing street light assessments.
So, uh this would be to proceed with the
street light assessments for the first
for the rest of the city. The second
would be to let
» him for Arbor House.
>> Questions, comments?
>> Ma'am,
>> Vice Mayor Shammy,
>> yes.
>> Mayor Lindseay,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Cook,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Bond,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Grove,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Wright,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Egleston,
>> yes.
>> Ordinance 2026-27,
introduction on 83 of 26, public hearing
and action tonight. an ordinance levying
assessments for the improvement of
certain public public streets located
within the corporate limits of the city
of New Carile, Ohio by lighting them. So
moved.
>> Second.
>> Motion by Miss Agson, second by Vice
Mayor Shammy.
I believe the manager's already
explained this one, but I do have a
question for the manager.
When will these uh for the
city be able to pay these in advance
instead of having to put on their taxes?
>> Is there a date that we can do that
street?
>> You mean for the street light
assessments?
>> Yes. Uh so that was removed from this uh
from that legislation this year per the
request of u uh
>> so the taxes in
>> yes
>> okay
>> because I guess too few people uh
utilize that option and it always caused
more of a administrative headache.
>> Okay, makes sense. [clears throat]
Any other questions, comments, concerns?
Ma'am,
>> Mayor Lindseay,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Cook,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Bond,
>> yes. Councilwoman Gro,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Wright,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Egleston,
>> yes.
>> Vice Mayor Shammy,
>> yes.
>> Ordinance 2026-28,
introduction on 83 of 26, public hearing
and action tonight, an ordinance
certifying to the Clark County Auditor
and authorizing placement on the tax
duplicate of certain unpaid weed and
grass cutting assessments for the
collection for collection with real
estate taxes.
>> So move second. Motion by Miss Aerson,
second by Vice Mayor Shimmy. Sir,
>> uh, so yes, Mr. Mayor, I got some more
housekeeping. Uh, this is our weed and
grass abatement balance.
>> Okay. Any comments, questions? Mrs. Ray,
>> is this for the whole last year or is
this for a different amount of time?
>> It's for all the last year. This I mean
this current growing season.
>> The current this current year. Okay.
It runs from July of 2025, I'm sorry,
August of 2025 through July.
>> Okay. So, yeah, a year then that's good.
Um, I'm concerned how
high those are. And is that from us
cutting for these people? And that's
what that is.
I I hope people understand how much it
costs them.
You know, I just that it worries me that
people don't realize this all goes onto
your taxes if you don't mow your own
grass. I guess that's all I
>> You've had this problem for multiple
years.
>> I know we have and and I just hope that
people are aware that's
>> Any other questions, comments, concerns?
>> Ma'am,
>> Mayor Lindseay,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Cook,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Bond,
>> yes. Councilwoman Gro,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Wright,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Egleston,
>> yes.
>> Vice Mayor Shammy,
>> yes.
>> Ordinance 2026-29,
introduction on A326, public hearing and
action tonight, an ordinance certifying
to the Clark County Auditor and
authorizing placement on tax duplicate
certain delinquent [clears throat]
utility accounts for collection with
real estate taxes.
>> Move. Second.
>> Motion by Miss Aglesen, seconded by Vice
Mayor Shammy. Sir,
>> so again, more housekeeping. Now we're
talking to utility account balances.
>> Ma'am,
>> another question. Um, do we not just
turn their water off when it gets to a
certain point? At what point do we turn
their water off?
>> Uh, once they're delinquent.
>> Well, um, that can't be a monthly bill.
I I don't know. However, $5,000 would be
a,
>> you know, m Miss Harris.
>> We do have a limit for the shut offs.
The normal, a lot of these are either a
water leak, an abandoned um house. It
could be they're just unpaid and they're
in transition, somebody left. So, these
are just uncollected and they are shut
off. So, these are
>> they are shut off. They're not
>> That's really big. I didn't realize a
water bill could get that large. That's
really big. Any
other comments, questions, concerns,
ma'am?
>> Mayor Lindseay,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Cook,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Bond,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Grow,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Wright,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Egleston,
>> yes.
>> Vice Mayor Shammy,
>> yes.
[clears throat]
>> Ordinance 2026-31E,
introduction, public hearing, and action
tonight. an ordinance amending chapter
276 of the codified ordinance of the
city of New Carile, Ohio for the purpose
of establishing a comprehensive plan
steering commission and declaring it an
emergency.
» Got a motion. Do I have a second?
>> Second.
>> Motion by Vice Mayor Shammy, second by
Mrs. Wright. Sir,
>> so I attempted to watch our previous
council meeting, but our audio wasn't
working. Uh so forgive me uh for those
who've already heard about this. Um Mr.
Moore uh I believe along with Mr. Kiko
talked to you all about this. Uh this
was one of my initial objectives upon
getting hired back a year and a half ago
at this point. Um is we need to have a
comprehensive plan. The city is rapidly
growing right now. Uh we're very
attractive to a lot of other investors
and developers. Um we've gone through a
series of moratoriums through the spring
and the early summer of establishing the
things we do not want in this town. Um
at this point uh we have compiled a
draft of a comprehensive plan. Uh we ran
a community survey with uh a couple
hundred responses.
Um now the next phase is what I believe
will be the best most prudent thing is
to encourage a team of people from the
public to go through our data to go
through our drafted plan and to provide
you all with feedback. Uh the way I
envision this working is very similar to
when I served on the city charter
commission uh 5 years ago. [cough]
[clears throat] This would be a
strategic team that would meet regularly
uh most likely by by month uh twice a
month and um at certain periods in time
I would recommend that they do joint
sessions to give updates of of where
they're at through the comprehensive
plan uh town hall style meetings where
members of the public would be able to
ask questions you know from both the
council and the steering committee along
with the administration.
Um me and Mr. Moore primarily would be
there to facilitate and answer questions
to the team. Um I think one of the
things that would work best is to have
five primaries and two alternates. Um so
then you'd have a couple people on
standby so you wouldn't have to worry
about quorum issues as much. Uh I think
there was a question about if a member
is serving on another board
um can they also serve on the steering
committee? I'll let the law director uh
speak deeper into it if you would like.
Uh but it it is my understanding that
they can uh this is a a short uh
strategic team. Um it's not a chartered
sanctioned board. These are not we would
not be accepting applications of city
employees or any of you all as elected
officials. Um so that's my spiel on
>> comments, questions, concerns. This is
right.
>> Just one. Um, I don't know that five
people is enough to give a a good,
you know, there's some people that know
a lot about this. Some people know a lot
about this. Some people have great ideas
about in general stuff. I was thinking
seven would be a more appropriate
number. That's all.
>> Okay. Mr.
I'd like to hear the law director's
comments on other people serving on
>> Yeah. Uh, so there's a charter
restriction on planning board members
and BZA members serving on other city
offices, but long-standing Ohio Supreme
Court case law uh basically has ruled
that these types of advisory only type
boards uh that are temporary aren't
considered public offices. So they don't
resolve there's no uh conflict there.
there's no issue because they don't
exercise any authority. They can't spend
money. They can't make binding
decisions, anything like that. It's
simply just to gather information and
provide recommendations.
So, because of that, it's not an issue.
And a lot of other municipalities um
have similar charter restrictions and
they form similar commissions with
members of BZA and planning board
serving. And sometimes they'll
specifically even say that, you know,
one member has to be from BZA, one
member from the planning board. So they
structure it that way. I don't see any
issues.
Anybody else? Mr. Bond, you thinking
something? Okay,
>> ma'am.
>> Councilwoman Egleston?
>> Yes.
>> Vice Mayor Shammy?
>> Yes.
>> Mayor Lindseay?
>> Yes.
>> Councilman Cook,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Bond,
>> yes. Counciloman Gro,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Ray,
>> no.
» Ordinance 2026-32,
introduction tonight, public hearing and
action on 9826, an ordin ordinance
authorizing city-owned personal property
which is not needed for public use or is
obsolete or unfit for the use for which
it is acquired and that has no value to
be discarded or salvaged.
This is just for reading.
>> And other business, additional city
business, the first day of school for
Dumpsa is August 19th. City offices will
be closed September 7th for Labor Day.
And on August 31st is the joint board um
meeting with Bethl Township. Meal starts
at 6:00. Meeting starts at 6:30. Open
for discussion on city related business.
If C council saw the uh transportation
year and review annual report that I
placed at all your tables, this is the
report from the transportation
coordination committee in Springfield
for Clark County that Mr. Ko and I
attend. Mr. Hall attended uh the last
one with us. It's just what they've been
doing in the last year.
When they do anything that involves us,
Mr. Kitco
has us. That's council knows about it.
Like when he gets grants and stuff, they
usually come from there. Anybody else
have anything else?
» Mr. Cook,
>> how are we doing on the uh liquor
petitions?
>> They've been turned in. To my knowledge,
>> we received a response today. So, uh,
all petitions for Carl one and five will
be on the ballot. Uh, for Carl 4,
uh, only one petition will be on the
ballot. They didn't there there weren't
enough ballot signatures. The only issue
that'll go on the ballot is Sunday
sales, which um, there won't be anything
to sell uh, for that because that only
required 50 signatures. But basically,
Carl Ford didn't get enough signatures.
The other ones are good. [clears throat]
» All right, next question. How do we
stand on the mural?
>> It's not city business. That's private.
Any other questions?
Council good. Administration good.
I entertain a motion to adjurnn.
>> Move to adjourn. Second. Motion by Miss
Agelston, second by vice vers. We're
journed.
>> Oh, we need
» We don't know the call.
>> Go ahead.
>> Mayor Lindsay,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Cook,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Bond,
>> yes.
>> Councilman Gro,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Wright,
>> yes.
>> Councilwoman Egleston,
>> yes. [clears throat]
>> Vice Mayor Shammy,
>> yes.