[0:06] I now call this city council meeting to
[0:08] order. August 17, 2026 at 6:00 p.m.
[0:13] Ma'am.
[0:14] >> Mayor Lindseay
[0:15] >> here.
[0:15] >> Councilman Cook
[0:17] >> here.
[0:17] >> Councilman Bond
[0:18] >> here.
[0:18] >> Councilwoman Gro present. Councilman
[0:21] Wright
[0:21] >> here. Council me here. Vice Mayor Cham
[0:25] >> here.
[0:28] Now we'll do the invocation with Pastor
[0:31] Perry.
[0:35] Dear heavenly father, we thank you today
[0:37] for your loving kindness and for your
[0:39] mercy. We thank you for this blessings
[0:41] that you have given us today. We pray
[0:44] that you would just conduct this help
[0:45] the leaders of our community as they
[0:48] conduct business tonight. May it be
[0:50] something beneficial for our community.
[0:52] Give them clarity of thought. Bless each
[0:54] one who participates and thank you for
[0:56] their leadership. Jesus name we pray.
[0:58] Amen.
[0:59] >> Amen.
[1:02] » To the flag of the United States of
[1:05] America and to the republic for which it
[1:08] stands, one nation under God,
[1:11] indivisible, with liberty and justice
[1:14] for all.
[1:20] I try to get that.
[1:22] >> Uh, need action on regular meeting
[1:25] minutes for 8326.
[1:28] >> Some moved.
[1:29] >> Second. [music]
[1:31] >> I have a motion by Vice Mayor Shammy,
[1:33] second by Miss Agelston.
[1:36] >> Vice Mayor Shammy.
[1:39] >> Oh, wait.
[1:43] » Yeah. You said Aleston and then Sham.
[1:45] >> Yeah.
[1:46] >> Sham.
[1:47] Eggles.
[1:50] » She had I heard both of them at the same
[1:54] time, so I picked one.
[1:57] >> Mayor Lindseay,
[1:58] >> yes.
[1:58] >> Councilman Cook,
[2:00] >> yes.
[2:00] >> Councilman Bond,
[2:01] >> yes.
[2:02] >> Councilwoman Gro,
[2:03] >> uh, abstain.
[2:05] >> Councilwoman Wright,
[2:06] >> yes.
[2:07] >> Councilwoman Egston,
[2:08] >> yes.
[2:09] >> Vice Mayor Shammy,
[2:10] >> yes.
[2:13] » Any communications,
[2:16] Mr. Hall.
[2:18] Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of
[2:20] council, members of the public.
[2:23] Our departmental reports are attached to
[2:25] your council packet. Um, I have most of
[2:28] my directors here. If you have any
[2:30] questions,
[2:32] uh, do you have any questions on any of
[2:33] our reports?
[2:36] Any questions on any of the reports?
[2:38] >> Mr. one. Um, I was looking at the the
[2:42] mayor's report and it seems one was from
[2:44] June and the other was it just seems
[2:47] kind of late. Is there a problem or am I
[2:50] missing something which is very
[2:52] possible?
[2:56] » That's a probably a mistake.
[2:59] >> Do what?
[2:59] >> That's a mistake.
[3:00] >> Oh, okay. It's no biggie really. I just
[3:04] >> Well, thank you for pointing that out
[3:05] because it was people catch that. So,
[3:09] >> okay.
[3:11] >> Thanks for pointing that out.
[3:13] >> Any other questions?
[3:15] from council for the
[3:17] manager?
[3:19] >> I need a motion to approve the finance
[3:21] report.
[3:22] >> I moved.
[3:23] >> Second.
[3:24] >> Motion by Miss Agson, second by Vice
[3:26] Mayor Shammy. Any questions?
[3:30] >> Ma'am.
[3:32] >> Mayor Lindseay.
[3:33] >> Yes.
[3:33] >> Councilman Cook.
[3:34] >> Yes.
[3:35] >> Councilman Bond.
[3:36] >> Yes. Councilwoman Gro,
[3:37] >> yes.
[3:38] >> Councilwoman Rice,
[3:39] >> yes.
[3:39] >> Councilwoman Egleston,
[3:41] >> yes.
[3:41] >> Vice Mayor Shammy,
[3:42] >> yes.
[3:43] >> Motion to approve the mayor's uh
[3:45] financial court court financials
[3:48] moved.
[3:49] >> Second.
[3:50] >> Motion by Miss Agson. Second by Vice
[3:52] Mayor Shammy, any questions, comments,
[3:55] concerns? Ma'am,
[3:57] >> Mayor Lindseay,
[3:58] >> yes.
[3:58] >> Counciloman Cook,
[3:59] >> yes.
[4:00] >> Counciloman Bond,
[4:01] >> yes.
[4:01] >> Councilwoman Gro,
[4:02] >> yes.
[4:02] >> Councilwoman Wright,
[4:03] >> yes.
[4:04] >> Councilwoman Egleston,
[4:05] >> yes. Vice Mayor Tammy.
[4:06] >> Yes.
[4:07] >> Any committee reports.
[4:11] » Comments from the members of the public.
[4:13] >> I had a couple Excuse me, Mr. Mayor. I
[4:15] had a couple discussion topics.
[4:17] >> Okay. Go ahead, sir.
[4:18] >> Um, so uh this is my first meeting here
[4:21] in our uh new meeting hall. Uh coming
[4:24] back from my vacation. Uh I did get some
[4:27] feedback uh from Mr. Kiko, uh, the
[4:30] mayor, a couple of the council members
[4:32] about some things that we can do, you
[4:34] know, preliminary while we're, you know,
[4:37] taking in exactly what the renovations
[4:39] and things like that are going to be.
[4:41] Um, I know Mr. Kiko uh may have some
[4:43] things to add to this, but the AC unit
[4:47] wasn't working in the back hall or the
[4:49] back of the building. That is the plan
[4:51] to do executive sessions back there soon
[4:54] as we can. uh this, you know, for those
[4:57] who have been over at Heritage Hall,
[4:59] typically we would have to ask the
[5:00] public uh to leave the building. Um by
[5:04] being able to utilize the back room, uh
[5:07] the council uh can all go into the back
[5:09] room. So, uh we have a dumpster that's
[5:12] lined up, uh we have some stuff, uh some
[5:15] of the old cushions and things like that we also think is contributing to
[5:18] some of the smell that's going on. Those cushions are probably 50, 60 years
[5:22] old. Um, I know he uh Mr. Kiko has
[5:26] ordered uh some sort of air cleaning
[5:29] device that should also kill a lot of
[5:32] the bacteria, take the musk and must and
[5:34] mold and things like that, the airborne
[5:37] allergy type stuff uh to clean the air
[5:39] out. Uh we're lining up a commercial
[5:42] cleaner. Um this building was vacant for
[5:45] a considerable amount of time before we
[5:47] came back in. So, we're going to do a
[5:48] deep clean of the windows, the walls,
[5:51] the carpets, um, and things of that
[5:53] nature. Am I missing anything else, Mr.
[5:56] Kicko? No, I can just tell you that, uh,
[5:59] I've been in this building a lot over
[6:00] the last week or two, and I've noticed
[6:02] the improvements just from they used to
[6:04] set the AC about 80 or so by the papers
[6:07] I have up here when they're not here,
[6:10] and then drop it to that 72 73°. I think
[6:13] that was a lot that contributed to it.
[6:15] Now that we we're leaving them at about
[6:17] 73 uh 72 73, we I've already noticed in
[6:20] the last couple weeks that it's starting
[6:22] to get better um as it dehumidifiers or
[6:25] dehumidifies.
[6:28] Some of the other things too, um we uh
[6:31] went ahead and ordered new audiovisisual
[6:33] equipment. The sound seems to be one of
[6:36] the bigger challenges in here. Um
[6:39] uh so I know one of the things that
[6:42] we're looking at is some heavy curtains
[6:45] to go. We had our IT person come in and
[6:48] kind of give us a survey of
[6:49] recommendations that should help with
[6:51] some of the acoustics with the echo in
[6:53] here along with uh better mics uh
[6:56] potentially to be able to amplify. We
[6:58] may uh even go to like hot mic uh where
[7:01] you have like a button that you hit when
[7:04] you're about to speak and then that will
[7:05] help amplify your voice.
[7:07] >> [clears throat]
[7:07] >> folks in the public, which I was going
[7:09] to ask uh some of the folks in the
[7:11] public, how c how is the uh can you hear
[7:14] us? Okay. Do you feel okay? So, just letting you know, um you know, we
[7:19] realize we're going into budget season.
[7:21] Uh so, we're not, you know, looking to,
[7:24] you know, sell the farm here or
[7:25] anything, you know, spending money on
[7:26] this building too high. Uh but we do
[7:29] think there's a couple things we need to
[7:30] do if we're going to have, you know,
[7:32] professional atmosphere for meetings
[7:34] like this. Uh the next thing uh that
[7:37] came up was a recommendation from Mr.
[7:39] Kiko. And this was honestly this was a
[7:41] recommendation, not a recommendation
[7:43] when I did his appraisal back last
[7:45] November, December. Um I asked him, you
[7:48] know, some of his goals and objectives
[7:50] that he'd like to see done and I had him
[7:52] give me, you know, kind of five-year,
[7:54] one-year type objectives. One of the
[7:57] things that he brought up was the water
[7:58] hydraulic study.
[8:00] um he's obviously much more intelligent
[8:03] in speaking to it, but in layman's
[8:05] terms, basically what this would do is
[8:07] it would map out our city for for public
[8:09] utilities with water. Um one of our
[8:12] biggest challenges right now is
[8:14] thinking, you know, we're working on our
[8:15] comprehensive plan. We're talking about
[8:17] the future, what we want, what we don't
[8:19] want in town. Uh but the one of the
[8:22] things that's most contingent upon any
[8:25] sort of development northward is our
[8:27] water. Um the elevation in town goes up
[8:31] as you head north in town. Um and our
[8:34] tower is out on Scarf Road. So the water
[8:36] pressure is one of the things that that
[8:38] we're concerned with or not necessarily
[8:40] concerned, we just don't know. So this
[8:42] hydraulic study would be able to give us
[8:44] that type of information. It's a could
[8:47] probably do it under my 50,000 spending
[8:49] cap. But because this is a substantial
[8:52] investment, I kind of wanted to talk to
[8:55] you all about it before I would, you
[8:57] know, spend taxpayer money on a study.
[9:00] Um, I do think it would be extremely
[9:01] useful. And if I'm missing anything, Mr.
[9:04] Kicko, I just want to add that this
[9:06] study doesn't just get shelf. This is a
[9:08] live document. As in, uh, the minute
[9:11] someone comes to us and says, "Hey, I
[9:14] want to put a a brewery in, they use a
[9:16] lot of water. We're going to use 100,000
[9:18] gallons a day. Where is it going?" So
[9:20] this location, we take it to the
[9:22] engineer. They plug in all that
[9:24] information and it will tell you
[9:26] basically it's like Sim City. This docu
[9:29] uh they'll be able to tell what will
[9:31] happen if they pump at 2:00 a.m. pump at
[9:34] 5:00 a.m. pump in the middle of the
[9:35] afternoon when everybody's taking a
[9:37] shower, that type of thing. It will tell
[9:39] anything and everything. If someone ever
[9:41] decides they want to build something
[9:42] that's three stories, four stories here
[9:44] outside of what we already have, it can um you put that in a model and a
[9:50] model will tell you what the things you
[9:52] need to do a little more accurate than
[9:54] just knowing your basic pressures, your
[9:56] static pressures at your hydrants and
[9:58] stuff like that. You know, we in the
[10:00] city can't go around and mimic
[10:02] everything that happens in town. So,
[10:04] this uh model will do that and then as
[10:06] it goes, it never it never dies. it it
[10:09] just stays going as long as we keep
[10:11] adding to it as we grow or if something
[10:13] goes away we can take that away from the
[10:15] model and uh keep moving forward with
[10:18] it.
[10:20] [clears throat]
[10:20] >> Any questions on Mr. Bond?
[10:22] >> Is this a like a computer program thing
[10:26] or is this a service that we pay into or
[10:29] >> it's a it's a program. So since there's
[10:31] no annual fees, nothing like that to
[10:33] maintain. It can be somewhat maintained
[10:35] in house, but since we really don't have
[10:37] an engineer on staff to input the
[10:39] information into it, we will probably go
[10:41] to the place where we got it um have it
[10:44] built and do that.
[10:46] >> So then will there be fees ongoing? Like
[10:49] if we do need, hey, can you plug this
[10:50] in? Is it like, okay, it's going to be
[10:52] 50 bucks every time we ask them to plug
[10:54] this data in and give us a reading or
[10:56] whatever.
[10:57] >> Yes. Yes. No annual fees, but there will
[10:59] be a cost to implement this and run the
[11:01] model to see what it would do.
[11:04] And do we know how much that is?
[11:06] >> Um, it ranges. I mean, if you're going
[11:07] to put in a m another major development,
[11:09] you know, that could be a couple
[11:10] thousand dollars. You put in uh just
[11:13] building one home, things like that, you
[11:14] don't have to do that, right?
[11:16] >> But if there's some major industry that
[11:17] wants to come in and use utilizes a lot
[11:19] of water, then you would want this to be
[11:22] able to be put in there.
[11:23] >> To put in perspective, the entire cost,
[11:25] so I could do it by sections like you
[11:28] the the city existing now without the
[11:30] developments would be about $25,000. So
[11:33] you're looking at about 2500 rooftops,
[11:35] $25,000,
[11:37] probably looking about $1,000 a rooftop,
[11:39] you know, when you add. But if you said,
[11:41] and again, I don't want anybody, you
[11:43] know, panicstricken or anything, but if
[11:45] a Honda plant called up and that was
[11:47] something you guys were like, hey, yeah,
[11:49] we'd be interested in potentially, you
[11:51] know, building this big plant, 500 jobs,
[11:54] you know, that'd be something we'd be
[11:55] interested in. We would have to pay for
[11:57] this study before we would even be able
[11:59] to get to the table with some with a
[12:01] project like that.
[12:02] Um,
[12:03] >> and with a model, they can put it right
[12:06] in it and not do another study.
[12:08] >> Okay, gotcha.
[12:09] >> So, it' be a long-term investment, a
[12:11] long-term investment strategy. Plus, I
[12:13] think our water capital is doing pretty
[12:15] well now because of the developments
[12:17] with the tap-ins and things like that.
[12:18] So, this would be an investment through
[12:20] the water department. Uh, and it's again
[12:22] kind of getting us come, you know, into
[12:24] [clears throat] the future, the, you
[12:26] know, the cutting edge. This is what
[12:27] other municipalities are utilizing. Um,
[12:30] yeah. So that's kind of this I think the
[12:34] entire cost if we did our current city
[12:37] plus the developments plus anything you
[12:40] know potential north that's within the
[12:42] city proper uh would be about $56,000.
[12:46] So we'd have to do legislation. I would
[12:48] like to do it just you know let's you
[12:50] know it doesn't really make a lot of
[12:52] sense to just do the city and not do
[12:54] north of town. So it would be
[12:56] potentially upcoming legislation. I just
[12:58] wanted to put it out there that we've
[13:00] invested some time and resources into
[13:02] looking into this and investing in this.
[13:04] Um, but that may be, you know, some
[13:06] legislation that's coming down the pike
[13:08] here.
[13:10] The uh on the fees to add say a
[13:16] Honda or some manufacturer, could those
[13:19] fees be passed off onto that business
[13:22] somehow?
[13:26] I would say initially no. I mean I don't
[13:28] you know unless they're going to put
[13:30] some uh pre let's say they had to be
[13:32] annexed and you could put in the
[13:34] pre-anexation agreement that we're going
[13:36] to run a model to make sure you can fit
[13:38] within our system and if it does fit
[13:41] then it could be charged through you
[13:43] know pre-negotiated uh you know fees
[13:46] before annexation. Okay,
[13:48] >> infrastructure costs things like that.
[13:50] >> Okay. Hey, I was just trying to figure
[13:53] out if there's some way instead of the
[13:55] city paying for it that whoever
[13:58] manufacturer or developer wanted to come
[14:01] in that we could pass that fee on to
[14:03] them to put them into our model.
[14:06] >> And if I could just really quick, one of
[14:08] the things that could come up with that
[14:10] though is,
[14:11] you know, something as substantial is
[14:13] that we know that we're going to have to
[14:15] make an investment in infrastructure for
[14:17] water to support something like that.
[14:19] But to what scale? Like if we need a
[14:21] tower, how big of a tower? Um, so with
[14:24] asking, we couldn't even get to the
[14:26] pre-anexation agreement because that
[14:28] would be one of the the stipulations of
[14:30] services, you know, like, hey, I want to
[14:33] annex this, you know, parcel of land
[14:35] into the city to build this. Our counter
[14:39] is, can we support it? And the answer
[14:41] is, we can, but we're going to have to
[14:45] invest in infrastructure. the model
[14:46] tells us how much infrastructure we
[14:48] would have to invest in.
[14:49] >> Okay.
[14:50] >> So that would be kind of how the
[14:51] investment piece, you know, would work.
[14:53] >> Okay.
[14:54] >> So, sorry,
[14:55] >> Mrs. R.
[14:56] >> Well, that was kind of my question. You
[14:57] sort of answered it because we know if
[14:59] we need more water, we're going to have
[15:01] to put a tower out that way. So, I just
[15:04] didn't know if it was redundant to do
[15:06] that and then have to put the tower in
[15:08] anyway. What does a tower cost for a
[15:10] smaller tower like the one on Scarf?
[15:13] >> Oh, yeah. The one on the one
[15:15] [clears throat] on scarf if you're I
[15:16] just heard the per foot. Um you're
[15:19] probably close to two mil 2 and a half
[15:21] mil for a water tower. Wow. Okay.
[15:23] >> Water towers are very expensive.
[15:28] » How many gallons does that tower on
[15:31] scarf hold?
[15:32] >> It holds 1.7 million. Um you usable is
[15:35] about a million or a little bit less.
[15:38] And if we build a new tower, what would
[15:40] size-wise would we have to go?
[15:43] Guesstimate
[15:44] >> minimum probably 250 probably to 500
[15:48] 500,000.
[15:50] >> We have storage underground because we
[15:52] have generator backup. So we meet the
[15:55] minimum daily required uh storage that
[15:58] if everything [clears throat] the tower
[16:00] went empty, we could pump the system
[16:02] from uh generator back up. Okay. Okay.
[16:07] Mr. Halt, anything else?
[16:09] >> That concludes the city manager report.
[16:11] >> Anybody have any more questions for the
[16:13] manager?
[16:15] >> No,
[16:15] >> I do have one more. It was about the
[16:17] carpet. You said you were going to get
[16:18] the carpet cleaned in here.
[16:20] >> Um I don't know is is do we have wood
[16:23] floors under here?
[16:24] >> We're very curious to find out.
[16:25] >> So I was underneath saw the initial
[16:28] plank, but I don't know if there's
[16:29] hardwood on top of those. They usually
[16:31] go at an angle. Um, the ones underneath
[16:34] run this direction with the building.
[16:36] Typically, those would run on an angle
[16:37] for hardwood and they're not. So, I
[16:39] don't know what is really underneath
[16:41] this.
[16:42] >> Okay. I just It's a big expense. We're
[16:44] probably going to have to replace this
[16:45] carpet anyways. It's kind of dirty. I
[16:47] don't know. Is it cost worthy to wash
[16:50] it? That was my thought cuz cleaning
[16:52] this is a very big carpet. It's And I
[16:55] know a new carpet's going to be
[16:56] expensive. Once I get the device in and
[17:00] this may not be it, but we we know down
[17:02] in the basement there's just old carpet.
[17:04] This just laying in the middle where
[17:05] everybody's been walking on and it's
[17:07] dirty. It's concrete. We're going to get
[17:08] that out of here first
[17:10] >> and see if that is the I mean
[17:12] >> they kept this clean cuz this is where
[17:14] everybody occupied. So,
[17:15] >> yeah, it's still carpet.
[17:17] >> We're going to get the old stuff out,
[17:18] the old old dirty stuff out first and
[17:21] see.
[17:22] >> Okay, good enough.
[17:27] Okay. Uh, comments from the members of
[17:30] the public. You're up. If anybody like
[17:33] to come and say something,
[17:42] » Janelle Zimmerman, 219 Apprentice Drive.
[17:45] Um, I'd really like to say I was glad to
[17:48] hear what you said about the things
[17:49] you're going to be doing
[17:52] uh to combat all this mustiness and
[17:54] stuff. Last meeting I was at, I could
[17:57] barely breathe in here. It's slightly
[17:59] better tonight, but um that was one
[18:02] thing that really concerned me about
[18:04] getting this building is the money it's
[18:06] going to take to keep it clean and keep
[18:10] it, you know, it's a it's huge
[18:13] buildings. That's going to just going to
[18:15] be a lot. But I was glad to hear that
[18:17] you're going to do all those things cuz
[18:18] I think that's going to be really
[18:20] helpful. Made me feel a lot better. So
[18:24] I think that's all I wanted to comment
[18:27] on. Oh, did they get that pothole fixed
[18:30] out here?
[18:31] >> Which pothole?
[18:32] >> The one in the [laughter]
[18:34] I got the point energy doing a lot of
[18:36] work. So there see I sent you a message
[18:39] about it about said let us know about
[18:42] potholes and if you go down that alley
[18:44] if you're not on the right side you
[18:46] could lose your car cuz it's like this
[18:49] big around and that deep
[18:51] >> and so
[18:53] I just went out that way last time I I
[18:55] come in the other way but
[18:56] >> you're talking about the alley here
[18:57] >> right the alley here right
[18:58] >> okay I'll make a note of it
[19:00] >> okay yeah cuz it's not very nice to
[19:02] invite people to come and then when they
[19:04] leave they fall into that
[19:07] But I think that I think that's all.
[19:10] Thank you.
[19:11] >> Thank you. Speaking of potholes, sir,
[19:14] they uh there's an alley between
[19:20] Corey and Smith. We've talked about it
[19:24] before. I guess that holds back from
[19:26] where the gravel was.
[19:28] >> In my report, I had stated I would have
[19:29] all the alleys, touchup of clay, and
[19:32] church done by August 14th. And as you
[19:35] know, we've been hit with the monsoons.
[19:37] So now we're about we're close
[19:39] [clears throat] to two weeks behind on
[19:40] when that was supposed to be done.
[19:41] >> Okay. Any other members of the public
[19:44] like to speak this evening?
[19:48] >> Hearing none. Ma'am,
[19:53] » we'll go to resolutions.
[19:55] [clears throat and cough]
[19:57] » We have resolutions. We have three intro
[20:00] and four action. Resolution 2026-17R.
[20:03] Introduction on 83 of 26 public hearing
[20:06] and action tonight. A resolution
[20:08] adopting the 2027 to 2031 capital
[20:11] improvement program for the city of New
[20:13] Car, Ohio.
[20:16] >> So move.
[20:19] >> Second.
[20:20] >> I have a motion by Vice Mayor Sham,
[20:22] second by Mrs. Wright. Mr. Hall.
[20:25] >> Yes. A summary of this. This is our uh
[20:28] proposed capital improvement plan for
[20:30] the next five years.
[20:32] Um,
[20:34] by state law, this has to be done 90
[20:36] days before you approve the budget. So,
[20:38] that's why we introduce it now. Um, I
[20:42] know talking with some, uh, several of
[20:44] the council members and over, you know,
[20:47] the course of the last, you know, year,
[20:49] we've talked about many different
[20:51] capital projects to include this
[20:53] building. Um, so I think as we go into
[20:56] the budget season, you know, these these
[20:58] this is, you know, just proposed numbers
[21:00] in the capital improvement plan. Um, but
[21:02] you know, make considerations about, you
[21:04] know, the pool and, you know, some of
[21:06] our other infrastructure in town and
[21:08] things like that and we'll hash that
[21:10] stuff out when we start doing dollars
[21:12] and cents and the budget workshop.
[21:14] >> Okay. Any questions for the manager?
[21:17] >> Ma'am,
[21:19] Councilwoman Egleston?
[21:22] >> Yes.
[21:23] Vice Mayor Tammy.
[21:25] >> Yes.
[21:25] >> Mayor Lindseay,
[21:26] >> yes.
[21:27] >> Councilman Cook,
[21:28] >> yes.
[21:28] >> Councilman Bond,
[21:29] >> yes.
[21:30] >> Councilwoman Gro,
[21:31] >> yes.
[21:31] >> Councilwoman Wright,
[21:32] >> yes.
[21:42] » Resolution 2026-20R,
[21:44] introduction, public hearing, and action
[21:46] tonight. A resolution adding an
[21:47] authorized signatory for all financial
[21:49] accounts of the city of Ukraine.
[21:51] >> So move. Motion by Vice Mayor Shammy,
[21:54] second by Miss Agelston.
[21:56] Sir.
[21:57] >> Uh, yes, Mr. Mayor. So, essentially what
[21:59] this is is to add Mr. Nichols, our new
[22:01] finance director, uh, to be able to sign
[22:03] checks on all of our accounts.
[22:06] >> And then it's also uh keeping the the
[22:09] names that are uh currently on that
[22:11] list.
[22:13] >> Okay.
[22:15] Any other questions, ma'am? Um, Mrs.
[22:19] Wright,
[22:19] >> I was just going to ask Miss Colleen's
[22:21] name. um going to be removed then the
[22:23] day she
[22:24] >> when when we have to do this again in
[22:26] January when she retires then we have to
[22:29] do it again to remove her name and
[22:31] because they have to go to the bank and
[22:32] do all that so they'll have to sign all
[22:34] new cards to my understanding
[22:36] >> uh without uh Mrs. terrorist on there.
[22:40] But until then, she's a signer.
[22:43] >> Love her.
[22:45] >> Ma'am,
[22:45] >> Vice Mayor Shammy.
[22:46] >> Yes.
[22:47] >> Mayor Lindsay.
[22:48] >> Yes.
[22:48] >> Councilman Cook.
[22:49] >> Yes.
[22:49] >> Councilman Bond.
[22:50] >> Yes.
[22:51] >> Councilwoman Gro.
[22:52] >> Yeah. Yes.
[22:53] >> Councilwoman Wright.
[22:54] >> Yes.
[22:54] >> Councilwoman Edston.
[22:56] >> Yes.
[22:59] » Resolution 2026-21R.
[23:02] Introduction public hearing and action
[23:03] tonight. a resolution authorizing a
[23:05] contract for the purchase of natural
[23:07] gas.
[23:09] >> Second motion by Miss Agson, second by
[23:12] Vice Mayor Shami. Sir, so this summary
[23:15] is going to bleed into the next
[23:16] resolution. Uh, essentially IGS is our
[23:19] energy provider for the city. Um, every
[23:22] so many years we have to negotiate our
[23:24] rates. Um, what the benefits of being in
[23:27] the municipality is we have the ability
[23:28] to negotiate and to lock in rates for a
[23:31] certain period of time. Now, energy has
[23:34] been a very interesting and a little bit
[23:37] scary of a situation currently in our
[23:39] country right now. Um, and data centers,
[23:42] you know, while New Carile, you know,
[23:45] the the council approved banning those,
[23:47] we share a grid all the way to New York
[23:49] City. So, we can't control data centers
[23:52] that are going up all over the place in
[23:53] Pennsylvania and Ohio and in the
[23:55] Northeast. Um, and that has seen, you
[23:59] know, a significant impact to energy
[24:01] costs. That's where you're starting to
[24:02] see, you know, and even the, you know,
[24:04] some of the governors who are running
[24:06] for the current race right now are
[24:07] talking about making the energy
[24:09] companies pay, you know, their portion
[24:12] to reduce this this raise. So, there is
[24:16] actually a reduction in our rates for
[24:19] natural gas if you look at the
[24:20] legislation, but there is an increase in
[24:24] electrical. Um, percentage- wise, you're
[24:27] looking at saving about 20% on your gas
[24:29] bill, but your electric bill is going to
[24:31] go up about 30%.
[24:33] Um, one of the things that we negotiated
[24:36] with this deal though that we didn't
[24:38] have was first off at the trajectory
[24:42] that we're going, it looks like energy
[24:44] costs are just going to continue to go
[24:46] up. So, I wanted to lock it in for 5
[24:48] years to try to control that with the
[24:51] caveat put into the contract that we at
[24:55] if there's any drastic uh changes where
[24:58] it's a reduction in the cost, we can
[25:01] renegotiate our contract and freeze
[25:03] those rates at that time. So, to me,
[25:06] that was the best deal that I could come
[25:08] up with negotiating with IGS. So, that's
[25:11] again, like I said, first one's for gas,
[25:13] second one's for electric. Um, so what
[25:16] you got?
[25:16] >> Any questions, Mrs. Right?
[25:18] >> Uh, yeah. Um, you said we, and I'm
[25:20] assuming you mean the city. Is there any
[25:22] way that you can put all the citizens in
[25:24] that same plan and get an even better
[25:26] rate? I mean, I, for one, would like to
[25:29] pay a lot less than I do right now. If the citizens in New Carl could
[25:33] benefit by that arrangement, that would
[25:36] be really nice.
[25:39] >> So, for many years, Bethl Township has
[25:40] the aggregation, which New Carlau was
[25:42] part of. Um, so when you get that letter
[25:45] in the mail, there is already an
[25:46] aggregation um for residents. And if you
[25:50] think that you might have an opportunity
[25:51] to lower it than that, lower uh than
[25:54] what you um Bezel Township has um
[25:57] aggregated for, you can go to the Apples
[26:00] to Apples website and search other ones.
[26:03] Some have a monthly fee, some have an
[26:06] annual fee. Uh some will be cheaper, but
[26:08] it's only for a 3-month term. There's
[26:11] various ones on there, but the general
[26:13] um the one I get at my house is the same
[26:15] one everybody here can opt in or opt
[26:17] out. Um is the best rate currently
[26:21] unless you want to do the tennis ball
[26:23] thing of back and forth of uh changing
[26:26] agreements and contracts on the apples
[26:28] to apples website. So there is other
[26:29] options. You just have to go through
[26:31] those other suppliers um to do that. So,
[26:35] this price will be on there next time we
[26:37] look because this wasn't on there when I
[26:39] looked not very long ago.
[26:40] >> So, the municipality may get a little
[26:42] bit lower um price, but they won't
[26:45] negotiate that for all the residents.
[26:46] They're aggregating on a completely
[26:48] different thing. We have water plants,
[26:50] wastewater plants, things like that. Um
[26:52] but there are some actually cheaper than
[26:54] this on the site. Like again, you can do
[26:57] the 3 months.
[27:00] >> Yeah. And and juggle uh juggling it
[27:02] around.
[27:02] >> Okay. Thanks. Any other questions,
[27:06] comments? Ma'am,
[27:07] >> Mayor Lindseay,
[27:08] >> yes.
[27:09] >> Councilman Cook,
[27:10] >> yes.
[27:10] >> Councilman Bond,
[27:11] >> yes.
[27:11] >> Councilwoman Gro,
[27:12] >> yes.
[27:13] >> Councilwoman Wright,
[27:14] >> yes.
[27:15] >> Councilwoman Egleston,
[27:16] >> yes.
[27:16] >> Vice Mayor Shammy,
[27:17] >> yes.
[27:21] » Resolution 2026-22R,
[27:23] introduction, public hearing, and action
[27:24] tonight. A resolution authorizing
[27:26] contracts for the purchase of
[27:28] electricity. So,
[27:28] >> move second.
[27:30] >> Motion by Vice Mayor Shami, second by
[27:32] Miss Agelston.
[27:33] Uh, I think the city manager already
[27:35] answered uh this one. If there's any
[27:38] questions
[27:41] hearing none, ma'am.
[27:42] >> Vice Mayor Shammy.
[27:43] >> Yes.
[27:44] >> Mayor Lindseay,
[27:44] >> yes.
[27:45] >> Councilman Cook,
[27:46] >> yes.
[27:46] >> Councilman Bond,
[27:47] >> yes.
[27:48] >> Councilwoman Gro,
[27:49] >> yes.
[27:49] >> Councilwoman Wright,
[27:50] >> yes.
[27:51] >> Councilwoman Egleston,
[27:52] >> yes.
[27:55] » For ordinances, we have two intro and
[27:57] seven action. Ordinance 2026-24,
[28:00] introduction on 83 of 26, public hearing
[28:02] and action tonight. An ordinance
[28:04] determining to proceed with the
[28:05] improvement of certain public streets
[28:07] located within the corporate limits of
[28:09] the city of New Carlile, Ohio, and
[28:11] within the reserves at Honey Creek
[28:12] section one light section one street
[28:15] lighting district by lighting them.
[28:17] >> So move second.
[28:19] >> Motion by Vice Mayor Shammy, second by
[28:21] Miss Agelston. Sir.
[28:23] >> Okay. So these ordinances are a
[28:26] [clears throat] little goofy how the
[28:27] state uh has us do these. This is for
[28:30] our street light assessments. Basically
[28:32] what this is doing is uh establishing uh
[28:36] the reserves at Twin Creeks which is the
[28:37] Dr. Horton development their street
[28:39] light uh assessment. So this is for us
[28:42] to proceed. You're going to see almost
[28:44] well you it will be identical language
[28:47] that's coming up in the next ordinance
[28:49] and and that is for us to be able to
[28:52] levy those assessments. So, first to
[28:54] proceed, if it proceeds, do you want to
[28:56] levy against them? And that would
[28:58] establish the street light assessments
[29:00] for Dr. Horton.
[29:03] >> Any questions, comments,
[29:05] >> ma'am?
[29:07] >> Vice Mayor Shammy?
[29:08] >> Yes.
[29:08] >> Mayor Lindseay?
[29:09] >> Yes.
[29:09] >> Councilman Cook,
[29:10] >> yes.
[29:11] >> Councilman Bond,
[29:12] >> yes.
[29:12] >> Councilwoman Gro,
[29:13] >> yes.
[29:13] >> Councilwoman Wright,
[29:14] >> yes.
[29:15] >> Councilwoman Egleston,
[29:16] >> yes.
[29:20] Ordinance 2026-25,
[29:22] introduction on 83 of 26, public hearing
[29:25] and action tonight. An ordinance levying
[29:27] assessments for the improvement of
[29:29] certain public streets located within
[29:30] the corporate limits of the city of New
[29:32] Carile, Ohio, and within the reserves at
[29:34] Honey Creek section 1 Street lighting
[29:36] district by lighting them.
[29:37] >> Move.
[29:38] >> Motion by Vice Mayor Sammy, second by
[29:40] Miss Agelson. And I think the manager's
[29:42] already explained this one. Is there any
[29:44] questions or comments on it? Hearing
[29:47] none. Ma'am,
[29:48] >> Vice Mayor Shammy,
[29:49] >> yes.
[29:50] >> Mayor Lindseay,
[29:50] >> yes.
[29:51] >> Councilman Cook,
[29:52] >> yes.
[29:52] >> Councilman Bond,
[29:53] >> yes.
[29:54] >> Councilwoman Grove,
[29:55] >> yes. [clears throat]
[29:55] >> Councilwoman Wright,
[29:56] >> yes.
[29:56] >> Councilwoman Egleston,
[29:58] >> yes.
[30:00] >> Ordinance 2026-26.
[30:03] Ordinance introduction on 83 of 26,
[30:06] public hearing and action tonight. An
[30:08] ordinance determining to proceed with
[30:09] the improvement of certain public
[30:10] streets located within the corporate
[30:12] limits of the city of New Carile, Ohio
[30:14] by lighting them. Sir second.
[30:16] >> Motion by Vice Mayor Shami, second by
[30:18] Miss Agson. Sir.
[30:20] >> Okay. Yeah. So, pretty much like uh the
[30:23] one before. So, we're establishing uh
[30:26] Dr. Horton. Now, we're talking about our
[30:28] existing street light assessments.
[30:31] So, uh this would be to proceed with the
[30:34] street light assessments for the first
[30:36] for the rest of the city. The second
[30:38] would be to let
[30:42] » him for Arbor House.
[30:44] >> Questions, comments?
[30:46] >> Ma'am,
[30:48] >> Vice Mayor Shammy,
[30:49] >> yes.
[30:49] >> Mayor Lindseay,
[30:50] >> yes.
[30:50] >> Councilman Cook,
[30:51] >> yes.
[30:52] >> Councilman Bond,
[30:53] >> yes.
[30:53] >> Councilwoman Grove,
[30:54] >> yes.
[30:55] >> Councilwoman Wright,
[30:56] >> yes.
[30:56] >> Councilwoman Egleston,
[30:57] >> yes.
[31:00] >> Ordinance 2026-27,
[31:02] introduction on 83 of 26, public hearing
[31:05] and action tonight. an ordinance levying
[31:07] assessments for the improvement of
[31:08] certain public public streets located
[31:11] within the corporate limits of the city
[31:12] of New Carile, Ohio by lighting them. So
[31:14] moved.
[31:16] >> Second.
[31:16] >> Motion by Miss Agson, second by Vice
[31:18] Mayor Shammy.
[31:23] I believe the manager's already
[31:24] explained this one, but I do have a
[31:26] question for the manager.
[31:28] When will these uh for the
[31:33] city be able to pay these in advance
[31:36] instead of having to put on their taxes?
[31:40] >> Is there a date that we can do that
[31:44] street?
[31:45] >> You mean for the street light
[31:46] assessments?
[31:47] >> Yes. Uh so that was removed from this uh
[31:51] from that legislation this year per the
[31:54] request of u uh
[31:56] >> so the taxes in
[31:59] >> yes
[31:59] >> okay
[32:00] >> because I guess too few people uh
[32:02] utilize that option and it always caused
[32:04] more of a administrative headache.
[32:06] >> Okay, makes sense. [clears throat]
[32:09] Any other questions, comments, concerns?
[32:11] Ma'am,
[32:12] >> Mayor Lindseay,
[32:13] >> yes.
[32:13] >> Councilman Cook,
[32:14] >> yes.
[32:15] >> Councilman Bond,
[32:16] >> yes. Councilwoman Gro,
[32:17] >> yes.
[32:18] >> Councilwoman Wright,
[32:19] >> yes.
[32:19] >> Councilwoman Egleston,
[32:20] >> yes.
[32:21] >> Vice Mayor Shammy,
[32:22] >> yes.
[32:24] >> Ordinance 2026-28,
[32:27] introduction on 83 of 26, public hearing
[32:29] and action tonight, an ordinance
[32:31] certifying to the Clark County Auditor
[32:33] and authorizing placement on the tax
[32:35] duplicate of certain unpaid weed and
[32:37] grass cutting assessments for the
[32:39] collection for collection with real
[32:40] estate taxes.
[32:42] >> So move second. Motion by Miss Aerson,
[32:45] second by Vice Mayor Shimmy. Sir,
[32:48] >> uh, so yes, Mr. Mayor, I got some more
[32:50] housekeeping. Uh, this is our weed and
[32:52] grass abatement balance.
[32:55] >> Okay. Any comments, questions? Mrs. Ray,
[32:58] >> is this for the whole last year or is
[33:00] this for a different amount of time?
[33:04] >> It's for all the last year. This I mean
[33:06] this current growing season.
[33:07] >> The current this current year. Okay.
[33:09] It runs from July of 2025, I'm sorry,
[33:13] August of 2025 through July.
[33:16] >> Okay. So, yeah, a year then that's good.
[33:18] Um, I'm concerned how
[33:31] high those are. And is that from us
[33:34] cutting for these people? And that's
[33:36] what that is.
[33:39] I I hope people understand how much it
[33:41] costs them.
[33:43] You know, I just that it worries me that
[33:45] people don't realize this all goes onto
[33:47] your taxes if you don't mow your own
[33:49] grass. I guess that's all I
[33:53] >> You've had this problem for multiple
[33:55] years.
[33:55] >> I know we have and and I just hope that
[33:58] people are aware that's
[34:00] >> Any other questions, comments, concerns?
[34:02] >> Ma'am,
[34:03] >> Mayor Lindseay,
[34:04] >> yes.
[34:04] >> Councilman Cook,
[34:05] >> yes.
[34:06] >> Councilman Bond,
[34:07] >> yes. Councilwoman Gro,
[34:08] >> yes.
[34:09] >> Councilwoman Wright,
[34:10] >> yes.
[34:10] >> Councilwoman Egleston,
[34:11] >> yes.
[34:12] >> Vice Mayor Shammy,
[34:13] >> yes.
[34:15] >> Ordinance 2026-29,
[34:17] introduction on A326, public hearing and
[34:20] action tonight, an ordinance certifying
[34:22] to the Clark County Auditor and
[34:23] authorizing placement on tax duplicate
[34:25] certain delinquent [clears throat]
[34:26] utility accounts for collection with
[34:28] real estate taxes.
[34:30] >> Move. Second.
[34:31] >> Motion by Miss Aglesen, seconded by Vice
[34:33] Mayor Shammy. Sir,
[34:35] >> so again, more housekeeping. Now we're
[34:37] talking to utility account balances.
[34:41] >> Ma'am,
[34:41] >> another question. Um, do we not just
[34:44] turn their water off when it gets to a
[34:46] certain point? At what point do we turn
[34:48] their water off?
[34:50] >> Uh, once they're delinquent.
[34:52] >> Well, um, that can't be a monthly bill.
[34:57] I I don't know. However, $5,000 would be
[35:00] a,
[35:00] >> you know, m Miss Harris.
[35:03] >> We do have a limit for the shut offs.
[35:05] The normal, a lot of these are either a
[35:08] water leak, an abandoned um house. It
[35:11] could be they're just unpaid and they're
[35:13] in transition, somebody left. So, these
[35:16] are just uncollected and they are shut
[35:18] off. So, these are
[35:19] >> they are shut off. They're not
[35:22] >> That's really big. I didn't realize a
[35:24] water bill could get that large. That's
[35:26] really big. Any
[35:29] other comments, questions, concerns,
[35:33] ma'am?
[35:34] >> Mayor Lindseay,
[35:35] >> yes.
[35:36] >> Councilman Cook,
[35:36] >> yes.
[35:37] >> Councilman Bond,
[35:38] >> yes.
[35:38] >> Councilwoman Grow,
[35:39] >> yes.
[35:40] >> Councilwoman Wright,
[35:41] >> yes.
[35:41] >> Councilwoman Egleston,
[35:43] >> yes.
[35:43] >> Vice Mayor Shammy,
[35:44] >> yes.
[35:47] [clears throat]
[35:47] >> Ordinance 2026-31E,
[35:49] introduction, public hearing, and action
[35:51] tonight. an ordinance amending chapter
[35:53] 276 of the codified ordinance of the
[35:55] city of New Carile, Ohio for the purpose
[35:57] of establishing a comprehensive plan
[35:59] steering commission and declaring it an
[36:01] emergency.
[36:06] » Got a motion. Do I have a second?
[36:08] >> Second.
[36:10] >> Motion by Vice Mayor Shammy, second by
[36:12] Mrs. Wright. Sir,
[36:14] >> so I attempted to watch our previous
[36:17] council meeting, but our audio wasn't
[36:19] working. Uh so forgive me uh for those
[36:23] who've already heard about this. Um Mr.
[36:25] Moore uh I believe along with Mr. Kiko
[36:28] talked to you all about this. Uh this
[36:30] was one of my initial objectives upon
[36:33] getting hired back a year and a half ago
[36:35] at this point. Um is we need to have a
[36:38] comprehensive plan. The city is rapidly
[36:40] growing right now. Uh we're very
[36:42] attractive to a lot of other investors
[36:45] and developers. Um we've gone through a
[36:48] series of moratoriums through the spring
[36:50] and the early summer of establishing the
[36:53] things we do not want in this town. Um
[36:56] at this point uh we have compiled a
[37:00] draft of a comprehensive plan. Uh we ran
[37:04] a community survey with uh a couple
[37:07] hundred responses.
[37:09] Um now the next phase is what I believe
[37:12] will be the best most prudent thing is
[37:14] to encourage a team of people from the
[37:16] public to go through our data to go
[37:19] through our drafted plan and to provide
[37:22] you all with feedback. Uh the way I
[37:24] envision this working is very similar to
[37:27] when I served on the city charter
[37:28] commission uh 5 years ago. [cough]
[37:32] [clears throat] This would be a
[37:33] strategic team that would meet regularly
[37:36] uh most likely by by month uh twice a
[37:40] month and um at certain periods in time
[37:43] I would recommend that they do joint
[37:45] sessions to give updates of of where
[37:48] they're at through the comprehensive
[37:50] plan uh town hall style meetings where
[37:53] members of the public would be able to
[37:55] ask questions you know from both the
[37:58] council and the steering committee along
[38:00] with the administration.
[38:02] Um me and Mr. Moore primarily would be
[38:04] there to facilitate and answer questions
[38:06] to the team. Um I think one of the
[38:10] things that would work best is to have
[38:11] five primaries and two alternates. Um so
[38:15] then you'd have a couple people on
[38:16] standby so you wouldn't have to worry
[38:18] about quorum issues as much. Uh I think
[38:21] there was a question about if a member
[38:24] is serving on another board
[38:27] um can they also serve on the steering
[38:29] committee? I'll let the law director uh
[38:32] speak deeper into it if you would like.
[38:34] Uh but it it is my understanding that
[38:37] they can uh this is a a short uh
[38:41] strategic team. Um it's not a chartered
[38:44] sanctioned board. These are not we would
[38:46] not be accepting applications of city
[38:48] employees or any of you all as elected
[38:51] officials. Um so that's my spiel on
[38:56] >> comments, questions, concerns. This is
[38:59] right.
[38:59] >> Just one. Um, I don't know that five
[39:02] people is enough to give a a good,
[39:06] you know, there's some people that know
[39:07] a lot about this. Some people know a lot
[39:09] about this. Some people have great ideas
[39:11] about in general stuff. I was thinking
[39:14] seven would be a more appropriate
[39:15] number. That's all.
[39:18] >> Okay. Mr.
[39:21] I'd like to hear the law director's
[39:25] comments on other people serving on
[39:29] >> Yeah. Uh, so there's a charter
[39:30] restriction on planning board members
[39:33] and BZA members serving on other city
[39:36] offices, but long-standing Ohio Supreme
[39:40] Court case law uh basically has ruled
[39:43] that these types of advisory only type
[39:48] boards uh that are temporary aren't
[39:50] considered public offices. So they don't
[39:53] resolve there's no uh conflict there.
[39:56] there's no issue because they don't
[39:58] exercise any authority. They can't spend
[40:01] money. They can't make binding
[40:03] decisions, anything like that. It's
[40:05] simply just to gather information and
[40:07] provide recommendations.
[40:10] So, because of that, it's not an issue.
[40:12] And a lot of other municipalities um
[40:15] have similar charter restrictions and
[40:18] they form similar commissions with
[40:20] members of BZA and planning board
[40:23] serving. And sometimes they'll
[40:24] specifically even say that, you know,
[40:27] one member has to be from BZA, one
[40:30] member from the planning board. So they
[40:32] structure it that way. I don't see any
[40:33] issues.
[40:38] Anybody else? Mr. Bond, you thinking
[40:41] something? Okay,
[40:44] >> ma'am.
[40:45] >> Councilwoman Egleston?
[40:46] >> Yes.
[40:47] >> Vice Mayor Shammy?
[40:48] >> Yes.
[40:48] >> Mayor Lindseay?
[40:49] >> Yes.
[40:49] >> Councilman Cook,
[40:50] >> yes.
[40:51] >> Councilman Bond,
[40:52] >> yes. Counciloman Gro,
[40:53] >> yes.
[40:54] >> Councilman Ray,
[40:55] >> no.
[41:00] » Ordinance 2026-32,
[41:02] introduction tonight, public hearing and
[41:04] action on 9826, an ordin ordinance
[41:07] authorizing city-owned personal property
[41:09] which is not needed for public use or is
[41:12] obsolete or unfit for the use for which
[41:14] it is acquired and that has no value to
[41:17] be discarded or salvaged.
[41:22] This is just for reading.
[41:25] >> And other business, additional city
[41:27] business, the first day of school for
[41:28] Dumpsa is August 19th. City offices will
[41:31] be closed September 7th for Labor Day.
[41:33] And on August 31st is the joint board um
[41:36] meeting with Bethl Township. Meal starts
[41:38] at 6:00. Meeting starts at 6:30. Open
[41:41] for discussion on city related business.
[41:47] If C council saw the uh transportation
[41:50] year and review annual report that I
[41:53] placed at all your tables, this is the
[41:55] report from the transportation
[41:57] coordination committee in Springfield
[42:00] for Clark County that Mr. Ko and I
[42:03] attend. Mr. Hall attended uh the last
[42:06] one with us. It's just what they've been
[42:09] doing in the last year.
[42:12] When they do anything that involves us,
[42:16] Mr. Kitco
[42:18] has us. That's council knows about it.
[42:21] Like when he gets grants and stuff, they
[42:23] usually come from there. Anybody else
[42:25] have anything else?
[42:29] » Mr. Cook,
[42:32] >> how are we doing on the uh liquor
[42:35] petitions?
[42:36] >> They've been turned in. To my knowledge,
[42:38] >> we received a response today. So, uh,
[42:42] all petitions for Carl one and five will
[42:46] be on the ballot. Uh, for Carl 4,
[42:51] uh, only one petition will be on the
[42:53] ballot. They didn't there there weren't
[42:54] enough ballot signatures. The only issue
[42:57] that'll go on the ballot is Sunday
[42:59] sales, which um, there won't be anything
[43:02] to sell uh, for that because that only
[43:05] required 50 signatures. But basically,
[43:08] Carl Ford didn't get enough signatures.
[43:10] The other ones are good. [clears throat]
[43:14] » All right, next question. How do we
[43:16] stand on the mural?
[43:19] >> It's not city business. That's private.
[43:26] Any other questions?
[43:30] Council good. Administration good.
[43:34] I entertain a motion to adjurnn.
[43:36] >> Move to adjourn. Second. Motion by Miss
[43:40] Agelston, second by vice vers. We're
[43:43] journed.
[43:46] >> Oh, we need
[43:50] » We don't know the call.
[43:52] >> Go ahead.
[43:53] >> Mayor Lindsay,
[43:54] >> yes.
[43:55] >> Councilman Cook,
[43:56] >> yes.
[43:56] >> Councilman Bond,
[43:57] >> yes.
[43:58] >> Councilman Gro,
[43:59] >> yes.
[43:59] >> Councilwoman Wright,
[44:00] >> yes.
[44:00] >> Councilwoman Egleston,
[44:02] >> yes. [clears throat]
[44:02] >> Vice Mayor Shammy,
[44:04] >> yes.