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Well, let's call this uh meeting of the

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Affordable Housing Commission to order.

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Can we get a roll call?

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» Megan Markle

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>> Samantha Culie

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>> Randy Rickert

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>> Casey Banks

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>> Judy Brown here.

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>> And that's that.

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Thank you. Do we have any registered

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public comments or anyone in the waiting

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room?

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>> We do not.

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>> Or both of them.

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>> Still waiting for the day.

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» Um, are we ready to approve minutes?

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Does anyone have any items that they saw

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that needed correction?

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» I don't think so.

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>> So, I move that we approve the minutes

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of the

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>> Thanks, Samantha.

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>> Uh, raise your hand if you're in favor

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of approving the meeting minutes.

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» I'm raising I'm raising my hand.

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>> Sorry, I'm still recovering from

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surgery. I am not willing to put myself

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>> That's fine. We'll just visual or audio

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will work for voting. Um okay. Well,

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that passes.

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So, we are ready to hear a presentation

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about the uh

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um housing trust resolution and uh NOA

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what was in there. Um, so I put together

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the memorandum kind of just to go over

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uh, our previous thoughts and discussion

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around proposing a new NOA. and the

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group, myself included, wanted to make

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sure that we all had a good

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understanding of following all the rules

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and regs that had been established and

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making sure that we were um following

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procedure. Um, so I was able to find the

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archive of um, previous resolutions that

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took place over a series of years. Um,

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pretty much I think it was 2012 to 2019

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if I remember correctly.

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they they basically built off of one

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another. So that last one encompassed

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kind of everything and each new

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resolution uh replaced the previous. So

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the most recent one um has everything in

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there. And you'll notice that a lot of

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the language I think especially from

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section 8 in there um that looks like

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previous staff worked to come up with

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the NOA scoring rubric criteria.

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concert with one another. So I I felt

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pretty good about that and that we have

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an understanding now of where that came

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from and you know what its intention

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was. So, um it seems like the only

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departure really was and there is some

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language in there that allows for um

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kind of the realities of any given year,

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was that there was a yearly NOA.

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previously and this group has worked

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within the parameters of like the

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breakdown of each there's like half a

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account and it was it looked like it

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percentage for each type of program.

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documentation, I was looking for is

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there language in there that would allow

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us to do um, a larger allocation perhaps

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all of it. And uh after looking at that

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with the director, I believe the answer

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is yes. So um that's what the uh

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memorandum was um aiming to convey. So

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to kind of recap, our finance director

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account currently, which is a little

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over $72,000.

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those resolutions that we withhold a 5%

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administration fee from that um bringing

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a potential award to uh 68,568.15

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interest acrewing on that. So, it might

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what we could do, the language in the

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resolution supports a competitive award.

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been a grant award or a loan award. And

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years that that was a loan award.

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administrate a grant award but of course

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of the commission.

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memorandum I included some some key

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competitive grant award program section

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seven and then section 8. Um and again

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that section 8's uh really mirroring

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what's in our scoring rubric on our nos

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um that we post.

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up to discussion amongst the group uh

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resolutions themselves before we move on

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Uh, 2021 3730.

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essentially is spelled out in the

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resolution. Right.

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that these guidelines were like binding

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of set aside before because we didn't

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realize that they were in the

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program's eligibility, we were looking

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rubric could be kind of set aside and not be binding. Um, but if if what

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trying to understand was

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were those requirements actually binding

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ability to make a departure from that if

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resolution and counselor uh the

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by revising a rapid solution or the

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resolution just isn't binding from the

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what is subjective and what's binding?

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recommendations and the departure um

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about how binding um the resolution is.

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understanding was that um they can

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override anything regardless whether

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there's a resolution or not. It's the

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guidelines that we have to operate

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within, but not necessarily the

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within. Now, I don't understand why. I'd

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be hard and tight, but it's not on. So,

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the entirety of uh what could be

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change. They would need to approve that

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they voted to do that, then we would go

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terms of scoring applications etc.

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promotional materials when we announce

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that it's available? Do we give this

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actual resolution language to the

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applicants so they can read through it

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as well? I feel like I saw some details

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of and had gone through several noer

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intention is to update a new uh landing

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page for any upcoming NOAS. I know that

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resolutions, but um I wasn't privy to

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folder for all of these and I have them.

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above. I can put excerpts in and then I

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can add a link for folks to go through

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this the latest and greatest resolution

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was um not so much a question it was

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clarity around the timesensitive loan or

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grant program. I always thought it was

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weird that people could only apply for a

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time-sensitive grant once a year when we

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do the NAS and um the way the

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resolution's written that's that was not

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the intention um that we could receive

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an application at any time in the year.

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Um, I don't know if we just haven't had

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any applications like that or if we just

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didn't

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communicate that that was available at

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any time of year. So, um, if you're

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working on that landing page, that might

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be something to

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think through as well. Do we put

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information on there about the

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time-sensitive loan? Are we even trying

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to continue that option or just do the

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once a year options?

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Yeah, I think that's something that I

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was turning over as well and is a really

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relevant question because

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um previously

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the way it was structured and I was kind

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of instructed to do it was to post all

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of them and see who wanted to apply for

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what. But going back to the resolution

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um that was something that I became

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aware of as well um during the research

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and

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um we I mean since I've been here there

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hasn't been that I'm aware of there

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hasn't been a request for a

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timesensitive loan um just someone

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coming to us requesting to apply for one

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outside of a NOA process. So, um,

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whether that is just kind of lack of and

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some of that I would say, you know,

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we've had, uh, new software for, you

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know, our city web pages and everything

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installed, um, during this time frame

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since I arrived. So, that may be some of

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it, um, but

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not all of it. So I don't know how much

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education was done prior to my arrival

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around that but we can certainly um

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discuss that. I think

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part of it as well something for the

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commission to consider is you know we

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have this sum in there and it would make

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you know a nicer a slightly larger award

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than what we've been able to do

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previously. But um there was some

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language in the resolution that I was

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reflecting on about sources of revenue

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for that fund and you know where it

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could potentially come from and um you

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know does the commission have an

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interest in pursuing other types of

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grants to start to replenish that fund

341
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as well. Um, so there could be, you

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know, funds available for anytime

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timesensitive grant award. You know what

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I mean? Like if we deplete the funds

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with this um, NOA posting that we've

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been talking about um, then what happens

347
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to that time-sensitive grant if there's

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no funds available any longer? So I

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think that's also part of that

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discussion.

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I'm certainly open to the idea of um

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talking about how that gets replenished

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um and would also be interested in a

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like a true time-sensitive option grant

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or loan or either um that folks could

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apply for at any time. I do remember

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before you came, Leanne,

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one or two organizations who checked the

359
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box time-sensitive loan or grant,

360
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but it wasn't truly time-sensitive.

361
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Um, it it occurred during the like once

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a year application.

363
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Um, so the box was checked for

364
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timesensitive, but it didn't feel

365
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timesensitive and we didn't handle it in

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that way.

367
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>> Okay.

368
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Yeah. And I just looking at the numbers

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for the breakdowns per each program

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type, it did seem like that was the

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avenue for the largest kind of one-time

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award. And the most straight, you know,

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in terms of a grant allocation, I think

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the way all of those splits worked, it

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was potentially the avenue for the the

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highest award amount. So um I could

377
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understand perhaps the motivation there.

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So

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» other questions, comments about the

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resolution?

381
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Is this open I know we had discussed

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this before. open to landlords that want

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to do upgrades or things in which that

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they can still provide affordable

385
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housing without increasing the rent of

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their properties.

387
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>> Yeah. So,

388
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let's see.

389
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I think that language is in there. Um,

390
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>> there is some some language about

391
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landlords and upgrades. I just wanted to

392
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make sure that that we're not talking

393
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about two separate things.

394
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>> Yeah. So, the project provides new

395
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affordable housing or new affordability

396
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through retention or rehabilitating

397
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rehabilitation of existing housing

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within the city. Um

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the greater number of units provided the

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higher the ranking the project shall be

401
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given. So to me that speaks to like

402
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multif family residential

403
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um

404
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you know whether existing or proposed.

405
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I believe am I incorrect in remembering

406
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that that we had something previously

407
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submitted by a landlord and one of the

408
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disqualifying pieces ended up being not

409
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being able to prove 40 years of

410
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affordable housing. You know what I

411
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mean? Like I think there

412
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I feel like that was a catch on

413
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something, right? like

414
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>> like an individual landlord that happens

415
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to be doing, you know, maybe affordable

416
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rent or something um but is not

417
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necessarily licensed by the state or

418
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becomes the the hold up on that. Am I

419
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wrong?

420
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>> That sounds right. Um

421
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>> we definitely had a conversation about

422
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how do we how do we guarantee it's

423
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affordable for x number of years. We

424
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also had the question of how do we know

425
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the family renting it was low income

426
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without requiring the landlord to reveal

427
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sensitive information.

428
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And I don't think we ever came to an

429
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answer about that. Um

430
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I would assume that our only way to like

431
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guarantee that is to take whatever the

432
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um the median area income is and

433
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>> and you know 80% of that for um

434
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calculating the rent and whatever that

435
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rental unit is charging has to be that

436
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or less. um cuz we didn't want to

437
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require that landlords reveal, you know,

438
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people's

439
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tax returns or or things like that or

440
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their pay stubs,

441
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» right?

442
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>> But this resolution definitely says uh

443
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forprofit

444
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small landlords are welcome.

445
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um

446
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» how you actually work that out have been

447
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a little more challenging,

448
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,880
>> right? And I think that was my bigger question, you know, how do how do

449
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we potentially

450
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market to them and and how how do how do

451
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we actually meet meet their needs?

452
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Naturally,

453
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my dog started barking. So, sorry.

454
00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:43,840
» Well, I certainly have preference,

455
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,360
>> but my preference would be that uh for

456
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profits are only eligible for the loans.

457
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Um the loan terms are way more favorable

458
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than, you know, any other kind of loan

459
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that they could get and they're repaid

460
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in relatively a short amount of time.

461
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And I don't know that you would need to

462
00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:05,520
worry about the long-term affordability

463
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of it so long as it's affordable in the

464
00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:10,400
immediate and they're paying back with a

465
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little bit of interest, not a lot. Um,

466
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to me that's a better option. But that

467
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would changing the resolution itself,

468
00:23:20,159 --> 00:23:24,000
>> right? Yeah. And and I think that that

469
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marketing for that and and putting that

470
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information out, changing the resolution

471
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to where it matches that could benefit

472
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long-term other projects

473
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potentially.

474
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And I'll I'll offer that that is

475
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something that we did discuss internally

476
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that during deliberations with the

477
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commission if y'all did come to a

478
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consensus around a desire to update the

479
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resolution that we could look at

480
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would an update need to happen before

481
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the next NOA or these are two separate

482
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concepts.

483
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» Uh that would I guess be up to the

484
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desire of the commission. Um so as it

485
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stands as it's written currently we

486
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could post a NOA if council you know

487
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agrees to that um and just move forward

488
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with that. So you could decouple it from

489
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that and um if you did desire the

490
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commission did desire to update you know

491
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uh the resolution that could have its

492
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own process as well. Um, if however the

493
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commission desires to

494
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incorporate the new terms into

495
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a potential NOA, you would need to, you

496
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,760
know, start that resolution amendment

497
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process and, you know, we'd need to get

498
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schedule, you know, the scheduling going

499
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,559
and all of that. Um and well I guess

500
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first we would need to you know staff

501
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would need to draft um amendments per

502
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recommendations from the affordable

503
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housing commission. Um

504
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>> and we may need to meet again to make

505
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sure everyone approves the language and

506
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then bring that to council

507
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um for approval. And maybe

508
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I mean we might be able to work on both

509
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things concurrently where we're

510
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recommending uh amendments to the

511
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resolution and a NOA that uh reflects

512
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that and take them both to council at

513
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,000
the same time perhaps. Um

514
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,480
>> yeah.

515
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,120
>> Oh my god.

516
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:04,480
>> And then get all that scheduled.

517
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,600
>> That would be great.

518
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,200
Yeah,

519
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I think if we could present maybe both

520
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simultaneously

521
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um if that would allow

522
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potentially desirable changes and also

523
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you know

524
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not waiting another 6 months before the

525
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funds are available. I'd be interested

526
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in that. I' This is just my personal but

527
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,080
I'd be curious what you all would think

528
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,600
on the funding application request.

529
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,559
What would you all think about

530
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:40,640
recommending to council that it say um

531
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for so where it has organization name

532
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:44,720
and then to the side they check a box if

533
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they're for profofit or nonprofit

534
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:52,000
um if we suggested putting um forprofit

535
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,840
seeking loan nonprofit seeking grant

536
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,600
um and just kind of distinguish that

537
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:03,909
those are two the two tracks available.

538
00:27:03,919 --> 00:27:05,279
council would have to approve that. The

539
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:07,279
resolution might need to change to

540
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:10,159
reflect that, but um that might solve

541
00:27:10,159 --> 00:27:12,080
one of the issues that we ran into a few

542
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,000
years ago.

543
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,640
>> Yeah, I I think that would be ideal if

544
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:23,669
we could present that.

545
00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:30,789
» I'm in favor of that as well.

546
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:34,480
» Any thoughts on that, Randy or Judith?

547
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,000
I'd be in favor of it

548
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,510
>> and I'm open too.

549
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,640
» Can staff ask a clarifying question?

550
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,799
>> Um, would this be for a competitive

551
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,840
award, a a competitive grant or loan

552
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,720
award or would it be towards a different

553
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:03,590
funding program allocation?

554
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,880
Right now, all we have is the

555
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,039
competitive awards program NOA in front

556
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:10,240
of us. But would the same distinction

557
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,399
make sense for a time-sensitive one to

558
00:28:14,399 --> 00:28:16,480
let a nonprofit

559
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,159
make a time-sensitive request for a

560
00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:20,480
grant? Or maybe that doesn't make sense.

561
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,559
I could certainly see a small landlord

562
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:26,799
um needing a time-sensitive loan in the

563
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,919
middle of the year.

564
00:28:29,919 --> 00:28:33,200
I don't know that a nonprofit would need

565
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:43,430
a time-sensitive grant as urgently,

566
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:50,230
» right? I would agree with that.

567
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,480
I'd love to see some of our

568
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,440
small mom and pop landlords know about

569
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,440
this and and have a meaningful way to

570
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,240
use it.

571
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,799
How how would they have a meaningful

572
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:06,480
That's a great question in the respect

573
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,279
of how would they even need that versus

574
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:11,760
just going to a bank and getting a quick

575
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,960
loan if they needed that to make updates

576
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,320
on their property versus coming to the

577
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,039
asking it.

578
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:23,840
>> A lot of those loans are higher

579
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,919
interest, higher fees, so it would cost

580
00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:28,240
them a significant amount. So oftent

581
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,559
times that requires them to increase

582
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:33,840
their rent substantially. So it takes

583
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,919
them out of the affordable housing

584
00:29:35,919 --> 00:29:40,799
potentially. I mean, at least that's my track. Um, looking at some of those

585
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:43,360
loans and even talking to some other

586
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,640
people who own rental properties,

587
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,120
oftentimes when they have to do those

588
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,399
repairs, um, they then have to increase

589
00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:56,470
their rent

590
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,000
because those loans are

591
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,559
>> So, are we talking

592
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:02,799
>> Oh, I'm so sorry. Please, Judy.

593
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:05,520
>> Yeah. Are we talking five groups or one

594
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,000
group or a hundred

595
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,320
nonprofits or or for profits? Is it

596
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,760
worth the time for the city to be in

597
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:21,520
that business of quick loans for

598
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:26,950
forprofit small businesses?

599
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,039
» Yeah, I think that's a great question.

600
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:32,240
Um, so I'll direct

601
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,200
books. It looks like in section 7.2C

602
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,559
of the attachment of that latest

603
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:44,320
resolution, it it does speak to what um,

604
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,640
Commissioner Kulie is is referencing in

605
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,880
terms of more favorable

606
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,559
loan terms. Um to Commissioners Brown's

607
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:56,320
point, I

608
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,000
was, you know, we would have to have an

609
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,600
internal discussion, I think, amongst

610
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,840
staff how we would be administering a

611
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,760
loan and how often we would have the

612
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,600
capacity to do that. Um and it does look

613
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,520
like just looking back at that

614
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,520
timesensitive loan, it is a loan or a

615
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,279
grant. So, um I think the commission

616
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:19,200
would need to come to a consensus about

617
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,120
which uh if you if the commission

618
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,880
desired to have a potential NOFO whether um it's

619
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,000
now or later. um with kind of this idea

620
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,480
that we're talking about um which avenue

621
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,159
and how often um timesensitive speaks to

622
00:31:36,159 --> 00:31:38,720
that the intention or the spirit of the

623
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,039
resolution speaks to you know

624
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:46,240
more than once a year. So

625
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,200
I think we need to be realistic about

626
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,679
how often staff could administer that.

627
00:31:53,679 --> 00:31:55,840
But also back to that piece about

628
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,720
replenishing the funds. So that may be a

629
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,720
longer term project perhaps. Um

630
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,600
but I think a worthwhile

631
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,039
um investigation, you know, and

632
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:14,799
something potentially look forward to um

633
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:16,480
when the longevity of the affordable

634
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,279
housing commission.

635
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:21,039
>> And I have another question. Are there

636
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:23,279
other cities that are doing something

637
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:26,080
similar to what we're doing to see how

638
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,559
to mimic that? If that's a good practice

639
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:32,559
or not to either way, one way, a good

640
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:38,640
way, whatever, if it's so with the same

641
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,440
pot of money, how are other cities doing

642
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,080
that? And how are they using that? How

643
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,919
are they using their funds?

644
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:49,919
Yes, certainly we can do some some

645
00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:53,679
reaching out to our neighbors and um see

646
00:32:53,679 --> 00:32:56,320
how they're we have good relations with

647
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,080
McMinnville. Um we could ask those

648
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,870
relevant questions.

649
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,760
» I know Hillsboro has a a program as as

650
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,679
well.

651
00:33:11,679 --> 00:33:15,120
Um, and and that's kind of where I was

652
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,360
thinking about that, but I don't have

653
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,039
all of the details what that looks like.

654
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:20,799
And and Judy brings up a fantastic

655
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:22,000
point. This isn't something where that

656
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,720
we can suddenly become lenders. Um, so

657
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,480
there there certainly has to be some

658
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,880
very limited and tight parameters if

659
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,760
it's something that we did.

660
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,320
>> Yeah. So, for instance, and I I think

661
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,320
this is um probably obvious, but uh

662
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,840
planning staff would have to be working

663
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,519
in coordination with our finance

664
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:45,120
department um to make sure that

665
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,760
everything runs as smoothly as possible

666
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:54,880
and um yeah, that staff can handle um

667
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,159
the workflow. I don't potentially see it

668
00:33:58,159 --> 00:34:03,600
being an obstacle as so long as it's um

669
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,240
you know first I think the funds would

670
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,919
need to be replenished and as long as

671
00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:14,230
it's not multiple times a year.

672
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:14,879
» No,

673
00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:18,399
>> I have a related but but different

674
00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:20,720
thought. everything that I um was kind

675
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:24,159
of imagining, small landlords, uh

676
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,240
smaller loans,

677
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:27,919
um

678
00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:30,159
coming from the time-sensitive process,

679
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:31,520
I think could actually be accomplished

680
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,960
in the rehabilitation loan program.

681
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,079
Um, are we

682
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:41,040
in any way bound to say like all four of

683
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,240
these types kind of need to be available

684
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:47,440
all the time or are we able to kind of

685
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,119
selectively choose? We're going to do

686
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:52,879
the competitive grant program

687
00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:55,119
and the rehabil rehabilitation loan

688
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:57,280
program. Um because what we've been

689
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,800
describing with the small landlords,

690
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,160
it kind of seems like that could be

691
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,920
accomplished with the rehabilitation

692
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,400
one, which is only loans. And it

693
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,720
explicitly says um the applicant has to

694
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:12,480
demonstrate that the rehabilitation

695
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,079
could not be accomplished using

696
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:18,950
conventional loan programs.

697
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,960
Preference given to anyone who owns 10

698
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,240
or fewer units. And it's about existing

699
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,240
units being made safer. They're not

700
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:29,359
building new stuff. There's that's not

701
00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:31,359
what's going on. But existing units to

702
00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:34,000
be safe and decent, whatever decent

703
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:40,150
means.

704
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,680
» Um

705
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,200
I can weigh in a little bit there. I

706
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,800
think yes. Um

707
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,599
>> let's see. There's are you speaking to

708
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,240
the manufactured home rehabilitation

709
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:53,920
program

710
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,640
>> on page 20

711
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,560
7.3

712
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,560
it just the title is just rehabilitation

713
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:13,190
loan program

714
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,880
» and then it just uses the phrase

715
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,359
dwelling. It doesn't specifically say

716
00:36:17,359 --> 00:36:24,150
manufactured.

717
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,640
» Yeah, that's interesting. So, yes, and

718
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,560
we've had

719
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:30,960
>> Okay.

720
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,760
>> more inquiries about the manufactured

721
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,119
home rehabilitation program. Um,

722
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:39,119
>> that one's a grant, right?

723
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:42,000
>> Yeah. And that we worked with Yamh Hill

724
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,560
County. um

725
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,880
we've had conversations with them about

726
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,160
that type of program, but

727
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,349
>> um

728
00:36:55,359 --> 00:36:57,839
» I wonder if the loan the rehab loan one

729
00:36:57,839 --> 00:37:00,160
would be useful because the the only

730
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,560
applicant we've had since I've been on

731
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,440
here and I'm in year five

732
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,680
>> um that was a forprofit was a home

733
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,119
trying to repair the driveway. It was

734
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,599
uneven and it wasn't ADA wheelchair

735
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:18,160
safe. And so that probably would have

736
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,359
fallen under this rehabilitation loan

737
00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:29,990
program.

738
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,990
» Yeah. So,

739
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,079
sounds like there's language in here. Uh

740
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:40,480
the city manager would designate a loan

741
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,560
officer

742
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,599
Um so we would need to get some

743
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:48,800
information internally um coordination

744
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,720
with the city manager or finance

745
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:57,349
department and and planning staff

746
00:37:57,359 --> 00:37:59,760
» and if they don't have internal capacity

747
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,200
to do that could our advice just be to

748
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,599
update the resolution so that we're only

749
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:07,440
offering the programs we genuinely have

750
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,480
capacity to do?

751
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,000
I think that's a valid question. um and

752
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,440
something. So, it's my understanding um

753
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,960
just kind of what I've been told uh

754
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,760
after my arrival is that we did have um

755
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,079
prior a designated a designated housing

756
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:31,200
planner and that is what she did

757
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,599
full-time. And so, I think there was

758
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:38,079
just more staff capacity. Um and then I

759
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,000
guess simultaneously the funds have been

760
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,640
dwindling, right? um through previous

761
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,480
awards and then the suns setting of the

762
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,160
CCT.

763
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,800
So um yeah, I think these are all

764
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,400
relevant

765
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,160
uh timely questions for where the

766
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,320
commission is now and where that fund is

767
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,680
now and uh

768
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,640
ways to move forward in in a in a way

769
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,320
that makes sense uh for staff and uh

770
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,079
with the funds that we have. And then

771
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:11,920
again kind of that longer term project

772
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,800
about uh how do we envision uh procuring

773
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,320
more

774
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,359
uh in the way of funding pathways to to

775
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:44,870
replenish that fund.

776
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,960
So, it's sounding like council's going

777
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,599
to have a lot of conversation

778
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:54,069
topics.

779
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:55,839
Um, and just to, you know, state the

780
00:39:55,839 --> 00:39:58,000
obvious, I'm happy to to work up

781
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,440
whatever the the commission um, you

782
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:07,680
know, desires and and um, votes to do.

783
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:13,670
I'm happy to do that.

784
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,920
So, are we deciding on if we want that

785
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,800
resolution to be modified and then what

786
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,440
questions we want the the council to be

787
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,599
going over with the staff city

788
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:32,240
as the question is it is it time do the

789
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:35,920
sta staff have time to do a loan program

790
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,920
like that

791
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,119
how much Is it worth it? You know,

792
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:43,680
balance of that.

793
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,280
>> I mean, that again, that's one of my

794
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,109
questions.

795
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:50,720
» I don't know where we're moving forward

796
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:56,790
as a commission.

797
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,870
» Would we be recommending

798
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,040
like multiple things at once for them to

799
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,440
consider or like consider this then consider this? How

800
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,160
does council prefer to have that

801
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,680
content?

802
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,200
>> Yeah, I would recommend that the

803
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,240
commission establish um some agreed upon

804
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:22,720
goals. Um and some of that can be some

805
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:24,079
of the homework that y'all have

806
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:28,240
questions around. So, um, we can have

807
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:31,119
internal conversations about staff

808
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:32,880
capacity,

809
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,119
um, administering grants versus loans.

810
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:39,839
Uh, I would like to know which type of

811
00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:43,520
program the commission is interested in,

812
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,640
uh, posting a NOA for and the monetary

813
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,160
amounts. Uh do we want to continue

814
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,319
thinking about the total award um you

815
00:41:56,319 --> 00:41:59,359
know that 68 and change mark or are we

816
00:41:59,359 --> 00:42:04,400
thinking of smaller awards um kind of in

817
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,480
line with some of the other you know

818
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,319
rehabilitation

819
00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:12,160
uh grant loan avenue um

820
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,359
>> kind of how would you like to to direct

821
00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:17,760
my efforts to bring you the answers you

822
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,480
need to make a proposal for council to

823
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:27,109
consider.

824
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:27,680
» Okay.

825
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,119
Well, maybe let's review um some

826
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:33,280
of the possibilities that we've talked

827
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,400
about so far. Um so the competitive

828
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,640
awards program

829
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,640
as written is forprofit or nonprofit.

830
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,000
Um, I heard clarify, but I heard

831
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:53,430
consensus around suggesting this become

832
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,160
» forprofit grant. No, sorry, nonprofit

833
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,349
grants.

834
00:42:59,359 --> 00:43:04,160
Unsure about forprofit loan.

835
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,400
Um, given the amount of money that we

836
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,800
have, I I would have a hard time

837
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,480
imagining there would be a for-profit

838
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,720
loan in this category that didn't make

839
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:17,280
sense in a different category. Um,

840
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,920
but also for this sake of simplicity, it

841
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,760
might

842
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,319
I don't know if it would be okay, I'm

843
00:43:24,319 --> 00:43:26,560
going to stick with this.

844
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,040
Do we like the idea of uh recommending

845
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,240
that the competitive awards program rant

846
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:36,230
be for only nonprofits?

847
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:43,030
» Yes.

848
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,160
» Okay. Randy, Judy, thumbs up or not or

849
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:46,960
something?

850
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:47,680
>> Yeah.

851
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,920
>> Okay. So the first thing, Leanne, is

852
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,920
that if there's going to be a grant in

853
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,079
the competitive awards program, we

854
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:56,160
suggest limiting that to nonprofits

855
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,680
only.

856
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,720
Okay.

857
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:01,119
>> Do we want to recommend the competitive

858
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:03,280
awards program still be open to

859
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:08,240
forprofit but in a loan only capacity

860
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,240
or recommend we funnel them to one of

861
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:17,349
the other categories?

862
00:44:17,359 --> 00:44:19,440
I again

863
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,040
the loan process of the

864
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,520
>> city being in the business of giving out

865
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,560
a $10,000 loan and then getting repaid

866
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,119
in a couple years. How much time does

867
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:34,240
that take versus just giving them the

868
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:36,240
grant

869
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:39,760
balance of that just seems either profit

870
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,880
or nonprofit. a small amount of money.

871
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,200
Is it the Is it not It's always a value

872
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,280
to give money away. It's always fun to

873
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,520
give money away or share money with the

874
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,520
right organizations,

875
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:58,000
but what's the best value we we can to

876
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,200
use our staff wisely? I guess that's the

877
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,359
big thing. Uh

878
00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:07,280
>> my assumption is that when you give

879
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,319
money away with no repayment expectation

880
00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:12,400
is that sometimes then it has the

881
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,920
long-term

882
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,480
staff obligation of checking in with

883
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,280
them 10 years down the road, 20 years

884
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,520
down the road to see if they're still in

885
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,480
compliance. And for the kinds of

886
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,560
projects that our for-profit folks would

887
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,880
apply for Yeah. that we have money to

888
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,760
help that feels like a huge burden to

889
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,520
me.

890
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,160
Um whereas nonprofits typically have

891
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,480
they are in their business longer their nonprofit work longer and they

892
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,920
typically have internal

893
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,319
ways of verifying eligibility long term

894
00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:50,560
anyway.

895
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,720
>> Some organizations, some nonprofit

896
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:58,069
>> Yeah. Yeah. It varies.

897
00:45:58,079 --> 00:45:59,920
So maybe we don't have a answer on that

898
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,359
yet, but maybe that's a question for

899
00:46:01,359 --> 00:46:04,000
council is should the competitive awards

900
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,400
program be available as a loan to for

901
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:15,109
profits?

902
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:19,040
» And then on um 7.2 2 timesensitive loan

903
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,359
or grant.

904
00:46:21,359 --> 00:46:25,839
Should we even continue to have that?

905
00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:28,319
If we have it,

906
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:30,079
does it make sense to have the loan or

907
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:35,030
grant option both of them?

908
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,839
And do the staff have

909
00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:40,480
capacity to even handle that on a

910
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:46,230
rolling basis or

911
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:47,839
would it make more sense at this time to

912
00:46:47,839 --> 00:46:55,510
retire that particular type?

913
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,880
» Does anyone wanna

914
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,480
>> Those are questions. Does anyone want to

915
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,359
make a statement on those?

916
00:47:03,359 --> 00:47:06,720
I think it is would be valuable to

917
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:09,920
really think about the viability of that

918
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,200
program going forward. um you know just

919
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,920
even thinking about

920
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,520
the fairness of it right in terms of you

921
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,680
know once someone knows about a program

922
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,560
like that who's to say you can't which I

923
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,400
mean obviously it exists now but you

924
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,640
know like it just you could apply and

925
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,760
apply again and like how do we

926
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,920
>> how do we then say no to someone right

927
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,520
that keeps asking

928
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,400
>> but before we get off the squeak

929
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:42,800
away

930
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,560
>> because no one else, you know, no one

931
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,560
else does a time sensitive. I don't know

932
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,880
like that my mind goes to that. I do

933
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,440
like our competitive sort of, you know,

934
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,319
application process where there's a time

935
00:47:54,319 --> 00:47:57,599
frame and you can submit it,

936
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:00,560
>> you know, and then be reviewed and where

937
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,480
we review all of them and then make our

938
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,520
recommendation to council. Um,

939
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,280
>> I'm not sure that we should be in the

940
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,359
time-sensitive

941
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:11,760
>> loan or grant program

942
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,880
>> going forward given staff capacity and

943
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,720
just

944
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:18,960
>> just limited funds.

945
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,119
>> My thoughts.

946
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:24,319
>> Does anyone else feel strongly about

947
00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:30,390
getting rid of the timesensitive option?

948
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,280
I I don't think that the the long-term

949
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,079
viability of of timesensitive for

950
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:39,680
staffing purposes is reasonable.

951
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,349
Um

952
00:48:43,359 --> 00:48:44,640
» yeah,

953
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,480
>> I'm kind of kind of back in back and

954
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,520
forth. I can I can see the the benefit

955
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,440
of it, but um you know, Megan and and

956
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,599
Judy have have both brought up some

957
00:48:55,599 --> 00:49:00,000
really really great points. Um overall

958
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,880
the city doesn't have the staffing to to

959
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,160
continuously manage these. So having

960
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,359
those set times and parameters I I think

961
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:12,960
is a more efficient way to to provide

962
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:18,559
these these grants and or loans. See I'm still open to the loan potential

963
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:21,920
portion of of things. Um but but I would

964
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,240
agree those timesensitive I think we

965
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:26,960
could probably do away with that. um

966
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,510
just for staffing purposes.

967
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,000
» We haven't used it in practice. I mean,

968
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,599
it's been on paper, but we haven't used

969
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:38,319
it in practice in at least 5 years. I

970
00:49:38,319 --> 00:49:40,559
don't know if it's ever been utilized.

971
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:42,800
Um and again, there were some applicants

972
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,040
who checked the box for timesensitive,

973
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,319
but the way that the NOA happened, it

974
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:50,160
happened all at once on a deadline. It

975
00:49:50,160 --> 00:50:04,230
wasn't rolling any time of the year.

976
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,960
Randy and Judy, would you be open to

977
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,920
recommending to council removing that

978
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,680
particular program, the time-sensitive

979
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,309
program?

980
00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:18,720
» Um,

981
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:21,200
>> yeah, I don't I don't see an issue with

982
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,040
recommending that. I think one of the

983
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,359
things I'm flipping back and forth with

984
00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:28,480
is is the staffing. And Megan, you

985
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,559
brought up a great point, but we also

986
00:50:30,559 --> 00:50:33,280
have that same staffing model with the

987
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,359
rehab loan, too, I think, don't we? I

988
00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:37,200
mean, you still have to have staffing

989
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,839
for for that that process as well. Um,

990
00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:43,440
I'm kind of flip-flopping back and forth

991
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,480
here, guys. Sorry. I think

992
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,200
if we haven't used it in five years,

993
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,760
maybe we should really heavily consider

994
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,800
not not having it any longer. I think

995
00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:05,910
that's where I'm I'm ending up at.

996
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,680
» I would be in favor of recommending we

997
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,760
remove that program. Um, if nothing

998
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,800
else, it's one less NOA that the staff

999
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,119
have to put out there.

1000
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:22,630
Um,

1001
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,480
» when was the last time somebody you said

1002
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,040
five years, Randy, or somebody said five

1003
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,240
years was the last time?

1004
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:29,680
>> We haven't used it in at least five

1005
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:30,960
years because that's how long I've been

1006
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,720
on this group and I don't know the

1007
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:35,119
history before that.

1008
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:38,950
>> Yeah,

1009
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,920
» speak a little bit to that. So, we did

1010
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,000
have an allocation um but it was at the

1011
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,400
same time that we posted all of the

1012
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,680
others. So, it's to my knowledge um and

1013
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,680
I didn't see anything in the files

1014
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,839
either where someone had come to the

1015
00:51:57,839 --> 00:52:03,200
city and requested a timesensitive award

1016
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,520
outside of a NOA posting. Um,

1017
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,599
so

1018
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:13,200
that's my understanding.

1019
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,040
>> So it's been used, it just wasn't used

1020
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,359
the way it's truly written.

1021
00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:19,599
>> The spirit of it, I think you're you're

1022
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:21,359
accurate. Yeah.

1023
00:52:21,359 --> 00:52:25,190
>> Okay.

1024
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,000
» So take that recommendation to council

1025
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,480
that it doesn't seem to be a super

1026
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,000
useful

1027
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,680
piece of the overall program at this

1028
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,040
time.

1029
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,800
Um and then we have two rehabilitation

1030
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,559
programs. One is a loan,

1031
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:44,800
one is a grant specifically for

1032
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,200
manufactured homes.

1033
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,599
So the way this is written

1034
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,480
and the loans

1035
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,400
seem to be available for any kind of

1036
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:59,910
housing, not just manufactured homes.

1037
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,640
» I think that's accurate.

1038
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:12,309
Okay.

1039
00:53:12,319 --> 00:53:19,510
But would this be

1040
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,119
would the grant one uh 7.4 would the

1041
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:27,280
grant one be available to forprofit or

1042
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:37,270
only nonprofit?

1043
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,829
Is that a question for staff?

1044
00:53:41,839 --> 00:53:43,839
» How is it written now? And then what

1045
00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:45,440
would we suggest?

1046
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,079
>> As it's written now in 7.4A,

1047
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:51,040
it says the money's to individuals or

1048
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,319
local nonprofit organizations.

1049
00:53:54,319 --> 00:53:57,680
>> Oh, it could go to the homeowner.

1050
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:58,319
>> Okay.

1051
00:53:58,319 --> 00:53:59,680
>> That's how it's currently written. It

1052
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:05,030
looks like

1053
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,760
» that's not forprofit or nonprofit,

1054
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,720
right?

1055
00:54:08,720 --> 00:54:11,280
>> Correct. It says individuals. Yeah. I

1056
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,640
didn't realize that.

1057
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,150
>> Okay.

1058
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,000
Have we do we know if we've ever had an

1059
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,640
individual apply to repair their own

1060
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,359
mobile home?

1061
00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:29,200
>> Um there was discussion around that. um

1062
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,720
not long after I arrived. So this was

1063
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:35,520
about 3 years ago. Um I don't think

1064
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:40,720
anything ever came from it. Um

1065
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:43,440
yeah, and then we did give an award to

1066
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,599
the Yamh Hill County Housing Authority

1067
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:48,240
and they were so they have that program

1068
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:51,359
where they're um

1069
00:54:51,359 --> 00:54:54,160
administering repairs to, you know,

1070
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,079
various dwellings and they have that um

1071
00:54:58,079 --> 00:54:59,680
structure in there where they're vetting

1072
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,440
everyone and um so they did receive an

1073
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,640
award for their program, but um it I

1074
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,280
don't think it was strictly under the

1075
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,880
manufactured

1076
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:17,430
housing umbrella.

1077
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,119
I do believe that some of the homes that

1078
00:55:19,119 --> 00:55:24,640
they were repairing uh were

1079
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,079
well they received um

1080
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:31,119
trying to remember if they received CCT.

1081
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:35,920
I think the Newberg affordable house uh

1082
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,400
the Yhill County received CCT funds

1083
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,359
and then um h the Newberg area Habitat

1084
00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:47,119
for Humanity uh I hope I don't have that

1085
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:50,000
backwards um received

1086
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:56,150
funds from the trust fund

1087
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,880
but they both have that internal vetting

1088
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:03,280
process were um and they were readily

1089
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:08,960
able to prove financials and and all of

1090
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:15,349
that.

1091
00:56:15,359 --> 00:56:17,200
» So, a question that I have about these

1092
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,160
two um is about their funding sources.

1093
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,680
Um,

1094
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,839
you had said there's x number of dollars

1095
00:56:23,839 --> 00:56:25,599
available for the competitive loan

1096
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:28,000
project program, but is that actually

1097
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,920
the amount that's available for all four

1098
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,720
of these programs or do they all have

1099
00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:34,880
their own

1100
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,160
dollar amounts that could be available?

1101
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,640
>> Yes. So um

1102
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,760
that is so it's my understanding that

1103
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,119
it's only under the competitive award

1104
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:52,319
that we could um post a NOVA for that

1105
00:56:52,319 --> 00:56:55,119
total amount. Um the other funding

1106
00:56:55,119 --> 00:56:56,720
pathways

1107
00:56:56,720 --> 00:57:01,920
it's a percentage of what is in that

1108
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:07,040
account. Um, and it's

1109
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,079
>> I believe it's explicitly stated um in a

1110
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:15,109
section of the resolution.

1111
00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:18,240
» Loan terms are spelled out per C per

1112
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,440
area. And then

1113
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,990
let's see.

1114
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,359
» I don't see the P percentage right here.

1115
00:57:29,359 --> 00:57:32,240
Just that loans could be between five

1116
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,079
and 15,000.

1117
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:37,920
Yeah, it it may be in for each uh

1118
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,240
pathway

1119
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,079
but for instance in section five under

1120
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:46,400
funded fund administration

1121
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,079
um

1122
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:51,200
5.5 as a target in any given year up to

1123
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,599
60% of the uh trust fund will be

1124
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:57,839
available for project loans and up to

1125
00:57:57,839 --> 00:58:01,440
25% will be available uh for project

1126
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,000
grants. The remaining 15% of the trust

1127
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,400
fund will be available for project

1128
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,040
contingencies through grants and or

1129
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:13,829
loans.

1130
00:58:13,839 --> 00:58:17,200
» And then in any given year, at least 50%

1131
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,440
of the 5.6 50% of the available funds

1132
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,000
within the trust fund shall be available

1133
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,000
for use through the competitive awards

1134
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,079
program. And then that that key um it's

1135
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:32,079
just one sentence in there, but in any

1136
00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:34,160
given year, the c the city council may

1137
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,960
make an exception to the standard to

1138
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,720
take advantage of affordable housing

1139
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,359
opportunities.

1140
00:58:41,359 --> 00:58:46,319
>> So that's the way to to make a larger

1141
00:58:46,319 --> 00:58:51,670
fund available. Would

1142
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,520
anyone else have interest in

1143
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:58,640
recommending that all three of these

1144
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,799
be made available um

1145
00:59:02,799 --> 00:59:05,119
and have the different amounts available

1146
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:07,680
for each or

1147
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,240
staff time-wise is it better to do one

1148
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,119
at a time

1149
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:14,559
because I can imagine if someone's

1150
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:17,040
looking for information about affordable

1151
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,520
housing housing assistance. It might be

1152
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,119
helpful to see, oh, there's three

1153
00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:22,799
different kinds. I need to pick which

1154
00:59:22,799 --> 00:59:25,520
one makes most sense for my project and

1155
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,839
apply for that one,

1156
00:59:27,839 --> 00:59:32,160
but still do it once a year rather than

1157
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,880
three different times a year.

1158
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,400
>> Yes. And so I think that's in line with

1159
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,040
previous practice is

1160
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,079
>> um having multiple and they choose which

1161
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:47,760
one makes the most sense. Um,

1162
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,400
now

1163
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,000
not

1164
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,240
>> making all of I guess the question I

1165
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,480
would have for the director would

1166
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,520
be as the resolution stands now, would

1167
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,240
we be obligated to make all of the

1168
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,760
funding pathways available within ANOA?

1169
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,359
Um,

1170
01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:13,119
or do we have that leeway to pick and

1171
01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:15,280
choose which ones?

1172
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,799
Um, and maybe we do. I mean, there is

1173
01:00:18,799 --> 01:00:20,720
it's just in there a couple of times,

1174
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,799
but it there's

1175
01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:24,799
>> like a sentence or two within the

1176
01:00:24,799 --> 01:00:27,680
resolution that says

1177
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,720
>> those funds are available. Like

1178
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,240
basically intimating at any given time

1179
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,160
you may only have this much money and so

1180
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,839
it only may make sense to do this type

1181
01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:44,880
of an award. So, um, and that's kind of

1182
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,720
I think where our discussion was last

1183
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,280
time when we were thinking about there's

1184
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,920
not a whole lot of money in that, uh,

1185
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,359
account. Do we want to try to do this

1186
01:00:55,359 --> 01:00:58,160
NOA for that full amount and get

1187
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,760
somebody a little bit further down the

1188
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,760
road? Um, so

1189
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,599
yeah, there's that language in there

1190
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:14,069
about the competitive um, award. Um, and

1191
01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:18,069
yeah,

1192
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:20,880
I can certainly ask.

1193
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,000
I'd be happy to see either option, just

1194
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,559
the competitive award or all three of

1195
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:29,040
them. I just don't want to do three

1196
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,040
rounds in one year.

1197
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,839
at different times that feels like

1198
01:01:33,839 --> 01:01:36,319
spreading out the work.

1199
01:01:36,319 --> 01:01:37,920
we'd kind of lose track of which one

1200
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,440
we're in at the moment. And

1201
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,920
but that's just

1202
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:51,200
>> so we're talking about um the three that we're sort of hovering on right now

1203
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,599
is the competitive,

1204
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:58,240
the rehabilitation loan,

1205
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,960
and the manufactured rehabilitation

1206
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,480
grant.

1207
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,400
Is that

1208
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:06,960
button.

1209
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,799
>> That was the three I had in mind that we

1210
01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:10,640
were talking about if we're recommending

1211
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,319
getting rid of the timesensitive one.

1212
01:02:14,319 --> 01:02:16,559
>> Okay.

1213
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:19,040
>> And we did give a large chunk recently

1214
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:23,040
to manufactured home rehabilitation. So,

1215
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:24,880
you know, there's

1216
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,559
I think a good argument to say like

1217
01:02:26,559 --> 01:02:28,640
we've done some good work on that one

1218
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,040
and it wouldn't be

1219
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,880
terrible if we didn't offer that one

1220
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,839
right now. But um

1221
01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:40,240
one or three but but not one right now,

1222
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,720
second one in 3 months, and the third

1223
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,720
one in six months.

1224
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,520
>> Casey, as I review the the

1225
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,520
qualifications, it looks like it in

1226
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,119
terms of the statute here or the

1227
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:54,240
resolution points that those other three

1228
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,040
programs outside of the competitive one

1229
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,520
do not require having an RFP. It does

1230
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,119
not even mention doing an RFP. Is that

1231
01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:05,280
correct, Lean? There's nothing that

1232
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,319
actually goes out regarding those

1233
01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:12,319
programs. It just sits on the website.

1234
01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:15,839
>> Yeah. I mean, I'll go back and and tease

1235
01:03:15,839 --> 01:03:19,680
through it. I I can speak to the

1236
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,039
what I observed as the tradition and

1237
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:25,599
that they are posted at the same time

1238
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:28,319
and folks can choose

1239
01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:32,640
uh in any yearly NOA what makes sense

1240
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:38,549
for their project or program

1241
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:40,559
» but it's not like a time frame is put on

1242
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:43,359
those those programs in terms of an

1243
01:03:43,359 --> 01:03:46,559
application deadline. Is that correct?

1244
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:47,440
>> No,

1245
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,119
>> practice there was

1246
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:50,640
>> Yeah,

1247
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,119
we we typically handled it in the same

1248
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:54,079
time frame.

1249
01:03:54,079 --> 01:03:55,440
>> Okay.

1250
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:59,760
>> A posting uh is up for however long

1251
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,240
folks need to submit their complete

1252
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,480
application materials by this date. Um

1253
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,720
and then we close that and we start our

1254
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,799
review process.

1255
01:04:12,799 --> 01:04:14,559
>> Right. And then I would I would

1256
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:17,039
recommend if we're going to change some

1257
01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:19,760
of this resolution language or recommend

1258
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,400
that to the council, um I think the

1259
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:27,200
language should be identical across all whatever programs we're doing in

1260
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,599
terms of how the process works to be

1261
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:32,079
very clear.

1262
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:35,760
So that the RFP is for, you know, all of

1263
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,599
the programs that we're recommending and

1264
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:39,920
it's a time frame and you must apply

1265
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,000
sort of thing because that's not clear

1266
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,319
when in as each of the program

1267
01:04:44,319 --> 01:04:47,200
breakdowns for the rehabilitation loan

1268
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,000
program as well as the manufactured

1269
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,319
um program

1270
01:04:52,319 --> 01:04:55,839
and the other one

1271
01:04:55,839 --> 01:04:58,480
timesensitive. Yeah.

1272
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,480
I mean obviously timesensitive would not

1273
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:06,630
have I guess an RFP per se.

1274
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,319
» Okay.

1275
01:05:08,319 --> 01:05:13,039
Um so this is would fall under

1276
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:16,640
amendments to the resolution. Okay.

1277
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:30,710
>> Yes.

1278
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:34,880
It would basically be adding the 7.1

1279
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,240
um point. A language to any of the

1280
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,160
additional programs outside of the

1281
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:47,829
competitive awards program.

1282
01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:49,599
I

1283
01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:53,280
>> was just noticing that the manufactured

1284
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,240
home rehab grant

1285
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,640
um says they only have to guarantee that

1286
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,559
the home will be occupied by low-inccome

1287
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:08,559
family for five years. Um, did the

1288
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:11,920
loan have a similar timeline?

1289
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:19,589
The rehab loan.

1290
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:23,119
» Um, oh, it just says for the loan term,

1291
01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:24,720
the applicant shall enter into an

1292
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,319
agreement guaranteeing the dwellings

1293
01:06:26,319 --> 01:06:27,680
will only be occupied by families or

1294
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:28,799
individuals meeting the income

1295
01:06:28,799 --> 01:06:31,359
guidelines for the loan term. And the

1296
01:06:31,359 --> 01:06:34,880
loan term standard is 5 years. So that's

1297
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,720
just up to five years.

1298
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,599
Neither of those have the um ongoing

1299
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:43,440
affordability requirements that the

1300
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,160
competitive one has.

1301
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,200
>> Which that makes that makes more sense

1302
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,400
given that the difference in

1303
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,079
amounts that you're kind of talking

1304
01:06:54,079 --> 01:07:02,870
about.

1305
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:13,910
Any

1306
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,839
other things we wanted to ask council or

1307
01:07:17,839 --> 01:07:22,480
recommend council about this?

1308
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,799
I would like us to consider getting a

1309
01:07:24,799 --> 01:07:27,920
little more specific about a nonprofit

1310
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,000
given our discussions over the last year

1311
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,599
of what defines a nonprofit and that

1312
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:36,880
it'd be a 501c3

1313
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,039
licensed nonprofit at time of

1314
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:43,520
application for the competitive program.

1315
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,280
>> Where would be the right spot in this

1316
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,839
resolution to

1317
01:07:47,839 --> 01:07:48,960
>> That's a good question.

1318
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:56,630
>> Clarify that.

1319
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,359
Uh

1320
01:07:59,359 --> 01:08:02,720
would it be in the competitive section

1321
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,400
in the sevens 7.1 section?

1322
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,240
>> I I would

1323
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,720
>> Yeah, that might be the best part.

1324
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,720
>> Or was it back in the fives where we had

1325
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,600
the rubric?

1326
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,080
No, five wasn't the rubric. Where was

1327
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:20,640
the rubric,

1328
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,600
>> Alian? Eight. Section eight.

1329
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:31,349
>> Eight.

1330
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:33,759
» Okay. And that and this rubric only

1331
01:08:33,759 --> 01:08:35,359
applies to the competitive grant or

1332
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:37,440
loan.

1333
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:39,520
>> Doesn't apply to the other two.

1334
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,440
>> I think that's correct. Yes, that's

1335
01:08:41,440 --> 01:08:42,719
correct.

1336
01:08:42,719 --> 01:08:51,510
>> Okay.

1337
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,600
Well, if we're recommending that the

1338
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,679
council

1339
01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:57,600
limits

1340
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,199
the competitive one to grants for

1341
01:09:01,199 --> 01:09:03,679
nonprofits, then I guess with that is to

1342
01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:07,359
clarify that nonprofits need to be

1343
01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:09,199
>> the definition of a nonprofit.

1344
01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:11,600
>> Yeah. To have a definition in there.

1345
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:16,870
>> We can add a definition. Okay.

1346
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,719
to avoid the problem that obviously

1347
01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:27,430
happened earlier with Spark.

1348
01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:32,309
Yeah,

1349
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,159
I think it would be a lot cleaner if we

1350
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:37,359
could get the resolution

1351
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:40,319
um revised and approved by council

1352
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:42,799
before we post a NOA. I don't quite

1353
01:09:42,799 --> 01:09:44,880
understand how we would do it any other

1354
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:49,199
way, Lean. Um, is there

1355
01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:51,920
a way or is that just going to be too

1356
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,480
messy?

1357
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:56,560
Um,

1358
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,679
you're asking for my recommendation. Um,

1359
01:09:59,679 --> 01:10:03,600
>> I recommend that y'all all, you know,

1360
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,280
>> and I'll read this back out and I think

1361
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,400
y'all have to like, you know, agree or

1362
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,800
make a motion for these revisions. And

1363
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,480
then I'll come back with a draft for

1364
01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:17,760
y'all to uh look at and approve and or

1365
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:21,600
make edits to. And then um you'll send

1366
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,320
me off with that uh either for another

1367
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:31,270
round or to council. And then um I think

1368
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,480
my experience is the more

1369
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:38,719
things to review and that uh sort of

1370
01:10:38,719 --> 01:10:42,480
promotes talking points perhaps the the

1371
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:46,400
more deliberation can can happen and

1372
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,480
sometimes it's easier to move forward

1373
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:51,440
with something keeping it simpler

1374
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:52,960
initially.

1375
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,640
Um,

1376
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,679
so we can also after,

1377
01:10:57,679 --> 01:10:59,679
you know, I bring back the revision

1378
01:10:59,679 --> 01:11:03,360
revisit that and see if we would like to

1379
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,320
just go to council with an updated

1380
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,600
resolution that fits

1381
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:10,159
>> the current.

1382
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:12,000
>> So then they're not words smithing it in

1383
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,520
their own meetings.

1384
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:14,000
>> Yeah.

1385
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,760
>> Okay. and you know that way you know and

1386
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,719
I think I think it's a good time to look

1387
01:11:20,719 --> 01:11:22,960
at it to look at it in terms of staffing

1388
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,320
and the funds that we have available and

1389
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:31,280
um that's the reason for the updates and

1390
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,000
overall I still think they're pretty

1391
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,000
minor. There's not we're not talking

1392
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,199
about a major overhaul really. Um just

1393
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:40,880
some tweaks to make things more

1394
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,480
practical. So, um,

1395
01:11:42,480 --> 01:11:46,870
>> do you want us to give a major overhaul?

1396
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,280
» Uh, staff will do their best to

1397
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,040
facilitate that if that's the desire of

1398
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:56,480
the commission. Um, but yeah, I think I

1399
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:57,760
mean that's kind of my personal

1400
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,520
philosophy to try to keep things as

1401
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,280
clear and objective as possible and um,

1402
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:07,040
>> do what makes practical sense. That's

1403
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,080
>> so then we would review the changed

1404
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,520
draft the the revised version and then

1405
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,760
recommend that whole revision to

1406
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:16,560
council.

1407
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:16,880
>> Yeah.

1408
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:17,840
>> Okay.

1409
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,600
>> Um are we allowed to review that and

1410
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,480
give our feedback via email or could we

1411
01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:27,280
schedule another meeting so that we're

1412
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:31,280
not waiting four months to review that?

1413
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,080
>> Yes. Um, we can schedule another meeting

1414
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,560
and I want FA to weigh in here about um

1415
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:42,630
process.

1416
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,719
» Sorry about that. Um, yes. So,

1417
01:12:46,719 --> 01:12:51,120
if you give me a few um dates that

1418
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,520
everybody is available, then I just need

1419
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,400
to confirm that with our city recorder

1420
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,280
and then I can send everybody a uh

1421
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,679
confirmed invite for an additional

1422
01:13:01,679 --> 01:13:06,880
meeting. So, um we we I just need to do

1423
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,360
that extra step. So, what dates works

1424
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,080
for everybody for the additional

1425
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:13,840
meeting? Like, do we want to do it

1426
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,760
within the next couple weeks or just the

1427
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,040
next month?

1428
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,520
>> Well, how long does Lean need to get the

1429
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,280
draft prepped?

1430
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,640
>> Um, I'd say couple of weeks to make sure

1431
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,560
that all my other workflows stay um

1432
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,840
moving and we get internal review. We

1433
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,400
may need to, as Scott and I are, the

1434
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,080
director and I are looking at this, we

1435
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,960
may need to um check in with the city

1436
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,480
manager as well as finance staff and

1437
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:46,719
just um

1438
01:13:46,719 --> 01:13:48,800
>> kind of go over the practicalities of

1439
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,440
what the commission is deliberating and

1440
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:54,239
proposing.

1441
01:13:54,239 --> 01:13:57,120
>> So, exactly two weeks from today is

1442
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,840
August 18.

1443
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,199
Um, does anyone have a conflict in that

1444
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:07,360
4:00 window August 18?

1445
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:07,920
>> Let me check.

1446
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,159
>> Unfortunately, I do.

1447
01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:13,280
>> Samantha does. Okay. Um, I have a

1448
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,840
conflict on the 25th.

1449
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,880
>> We don't have to keep it on a Tuesday

1450
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,480
either.

1451
01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:25,510
>> Okay.

1452
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,760
That might make it more complicated to

1453
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:28,320
schedule.

1454
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,320
>> Okay. I don't know, but

1455
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:37,270
>> we could do um

1456
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,159
» like the September 1st.

1457
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:41,760
>> Does anyone have a conflict? September

1458
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,669
1st.

1459
01:14:45,679 --> 01:14:48,080
» I'm available September 1st and

1460
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:49,840
September 8th.

1461
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,080
>> Okay.

1462
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,400
I will account, but I might be able to

1463
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:58,000
get I might be able to get internet

1464
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,600
>> for the first.

1465
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,679
>> Yeah, that's okay. Put it put it down if

1466
01:15:01,679 --> 01:15:03,520
most people can be there.

1467
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,480
>> Okay.

1468
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:08,960
>> And is um we're just holding this right

1469
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,960
now, right? It's not confirmed yet.

1470
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,199
>> No, it's not confirmed. I have to I'll

1471
01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:15,440
we'll hold it and then I have to confirm

1472
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:18,480
it with our uh city recorder.

1473
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:20,400
>> Okay.

1474
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,800
And then the second option, um, did

1475
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,719
anyone have a conflict with September

1476
01:15:24,719 --> 01:15:30,070
8th?

1477
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:34,950
» Okay. So, that's our second hold.

1478
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,800
» Okay. And then,

1479
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,400
>> did you need a third?

1480
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:43,270
>> Um,

1481
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,320
» yeah. How about we just do

1482
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,320
How about the September 15th? We'll just

1483
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:49,600
go through in a row. How's everybody

1484
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,480
looking for the 15th?

1485
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:55,910
>> I'm available.

1486
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,199
» Yep,

1487
01:15:57,199 --> 01:15:58,640
>> I'm available.

1488
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:03,750
>> Samantha's good. Randy,

1489
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,270
» he's checking.

1490
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,400
» I'm ready to go out of town, so I might

1491
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:14,320
be uh not available, but I'm available

1492
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:15,920
right now.

1493
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,080
>> Okay.

1494
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,120
>> All right. So September 15 also a hold.

1495
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,120
>> All right. So I will go ahead and

1496
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,840
confirm a date with RC recorder and

1497
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,440
email everybody with an uh invite for

1498
01:16:29,440 --> 01:16:32,400
the actual date.

1499
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,239
>> Sounds good.

1500
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:42,630
>> Great.

1501
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:46,320
» Okay. Are we ready for staff updates?

1502
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,040
>> Sure. Uh

1503
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:53,360
so um good news and this uh I wouldn't

1504
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,040
have been able to give the good news

1505
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:59,040
last Tuesday. So um we have the

1506
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,080
intergovernmental agreement draft for

1507
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,480
the housing capacity analysis work. So

1508
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:09,679
yay. Um so we're doing our internal

1509
01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:13,280
review of that document. It looks pretty

1510
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:17,679
close to um that last kind of draft

1511
01:17:17,679 --> 01:17:21,600
between us and our consultant partner,

1512
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:27,199
Cascadia partners um and DLCD. So, they

1513
01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:29,199
just, you know, their legal team took it

1514
01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:32,719
through the washer and did their

1515
01:17:32,719 --> 01:17:35,280
structure for that legal document. So,

1516
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,760
um we're looking at that. It looks um

1517
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,600
like the contents all still there.

1518
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,320
they've added their legal stuff and then

1519
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,199
we will bring that to council for their

1520
01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:48,000
approval and then we'll launch that

1521
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,480
work. Um

1522
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:53,600
so just kind of as a reminder the

1523
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,520
planning commission is going to sort of

1524
01:17:55,520 --> 01:18:01,440
serve as that uh municipal review body

1525
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:04,480
and the affordable housing commission is

1526
01:18:04,480 --> 01:18:08,000
welcome to attend those meetings. Not

1527
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,400
every meeting of the planning commission

1528
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,400
will be having content from that work,

1529
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,040
but we will make the commission aware of

1530
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,719
the meetings where we will be um using

1531
01:18:20,719 --> 01:18:22,960
that body to discuss the housing

1532
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,800
capacity analysis work and y'all can

1533
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,880
join at your discretion. Um and we would

1534
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:36,320
you know love to have you and um yeah

1535
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,800
>> is that also by Zoom?

1536
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,640
>> Um we're going to try to make it

1537
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:45,679
available um as a hybrid. So um yeah, so

1538
01:18:45,679 --> 01:18:50,400
folks can um attend in person or um

1539
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,560
online to those meetings. That's

1540
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,159
correct, right, FA? We're going to keep

1541
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:57,679
that a hybrid platform.

1542
01:18:57,679 --> 01:18:59,920
>> Yes. All planning commission meetings

1543
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:02,159
are hybrid. So there's Zoom and in

1544
01:19:02,159 --> 01:19:03,440
person.

1545
01:19:03,440 --> 01:19:09,910
>> Great.

1546
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:14,000
» Yeah. So, um we're we're glad we've kind

1547
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,840
of been in this holding pattern for a

1548
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,239
few months uh while they're legal. And I

1549
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:20,800
know that the state had a lot of those

1550
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,440
grant agreements to administer. So,

1551
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:26,000
Newberg wasn't the only one um kind of

1552
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,040
hanging out and waiting for their uh

1553
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:30,960
final draft document to come through.

1554
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,000
So, that's good. That means, you know,

1555
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:39,760
we'll have more data um to look at and understand our our housing situation

1556
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,640
and all the facets uh therein and uh we

1557
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,480
can learn more about our community. So,

1558
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:50,960
happy

1559
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:55,440
>> good news. I like it.

1560
01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:57,120
Is there a staff update on any other

1561
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:58,719
thing that we just had one on the

1562
01:19:58,719 --> 01:20:00,560
agenda, right?

1563
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:04,560
>> Yeah, I think that's it for now. Um,

1564
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:05,679
>> yeah.

1565
01:20:05,679 --> 01:20:08,800
>> Okay. Anything that any commissioners

1566
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,640
want to share?

1567
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,239
>> I was curious if you have an update,

1568
01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:14,480
Leon, on where things stand with Spark

1569
01:20:14,480 --> 01:20:18,880
in terms of um the money being released

1570
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,000
to them, if that has happened or not.

1571
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:26,480
Yeah, I do not. So, there was um I did

1572
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:28,960
see an email and this was a while back

1573
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:30,640
like

1574
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,239
maybe as much as two months ago. Um and

1575
01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:36,159
it was an inquiry from the director to

1576
01:20:36,159 --> 01:20:41,920
our legal team and uh as of that email,

1577
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,640
you know, they're not out of I guess the

1578
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,199
legal process and no monies have been

1579
01:20:47,199 --> 01:20:49,120
dispersed.

1580
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,440
So,

1581
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:52,960
Okay, we appreci I appreciate you

1582
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,120
keeping us updated on where that stands

1583
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,920
since that's such a signific significant

1584
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,239
amount of money for affordable housing

1585
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:07,830
in our community.

1586
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:13,510
» Anything else from commissioners?

1587
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,080
» All righty. Does everyone have on their

1588
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,440
calendars our next meeting October 27?

1589
01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:20,960
That's not actually our next meeting,

1590
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,760
but that is one of our next meetings.

1591
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:24,960
>> Yes.

1592
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,199
>> Okay.

1593
01:21:27,199 --> 01:21:29,280
We still have those uh hold date

1594
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,040
meetings that we're squeezing in, but at

1595
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:34,239
least October 27th happening.

1596
01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:37,510
Okay,

1597
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,840
y'all want to sign off? You ready for

1598
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,679
that?

1599
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:43,600
>> Have a great August.

1600
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,400
>> All right. 523, we're adjourned. Thank

1601
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:46,640
you.

1602
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,320
>> Thank you. See you. Thank

1603
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,880
>> you all.