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this evening. So we will go ahead and

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>> Sure. Thank you commission.

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manager on this project and then

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our consultants PEC

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with PEC and then Suzanne Loomis also

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just take it over take over the reins

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from here and then if there's questions

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we can stop or we can wait till the end.

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>> stop us if they have questions?

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» Yes. Yes. Yes. Please please stop us if

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Okay, well very good. Well good evening

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you um inviting us out for an update

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today. Want to thank Chris for being a

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great project manager and then Ed for

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inviting us out for an update today. So

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um Suzanne and I are here for

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just to sort of provide an update on

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where we're at with the Safe Streets for

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transportation planner by trade and also

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PEC's planning and GIS group.

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Suzanne, you want to introduce yourself?

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market side at PEC and so I get involved

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in all types of projects, transportation

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being one of those because of my um

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varied background from working in a

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municipality. So, we've got a lot of

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stuff to cover with you tonight. So,

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bear with us and we'll give you an

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update where we've been and where we're

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>> I think probably most of you are

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familiar with PEC or Professional

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Engineering Consultants. This is just a

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a brief introduction to our company. So,

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we're headquartered down in Wichita.

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headquartered in South Central Kansas.

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um very very diverse in our expertise.

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project. So, the Safe Streets for all

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initiative is a relatively new

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initiative that's been rolled out by our

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funding for both planning and capital

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projects to local governments all across

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serious injuries that are happening on

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uh sidewalks and parks. Really looking

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fatalities and serious injuries, which

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transportation network that causes you

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hospital. That's that's what a serious

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reduce these all across the United

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transportation network. Again, whether

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that be owned by the state DOT or KDOT

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in our case or uh a township uh gravel

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road, a township road. Really looking at

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the entirety of the network and really

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that network. So, whether you drive a

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passenger car and you're running errands

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wheelchair, it's really trying to look

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entirety of the network to reduce these

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fatalities and serious injuries.

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to reevaluate your particular roadway

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street network. Um you know, a lot of

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our streets across our country and in

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Newton were put in decades ago and have

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worked very well to support um the land

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uses and the the neighborhoods and

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commercial areas during that time. Have

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really worked well. Um but as we know,

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cities change, counties change,

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neighborhoods change, commercial areas

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change and so it's really an opportunity

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the way we need it to now and and in the

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future? Um you know, one thing in

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bicycling facilities uh on a network

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that isn't really designed for that. So,

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the grant and so uh we've been working

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gravel roads, dirt roads, it's because

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transportation network as well.

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the the highway network. Um but you'll

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separate plans. One will be for the city

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of Newton and specifically for for your

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network and then one will be more for

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Newton or Harvey County because the

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state of Kansas uh, paid the match and

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attack this problem. It's called the

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safe system approach. Um, this is a

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relatively new approach when we're

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thinking about safety. I do have some

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handouts here that um, I'm happy to pass

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eliminating all crashes. Well, that's

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not necessarily the goal on the safe

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systems approach. It's a people focused

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approach and what we're really looking

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you know, saying that death or serious

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injury is unacceptable on our system.

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this. Number two, humans make mistakes.

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just accept that happens instead of you

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know, constantly trying to fight that.

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there. Responsibility is shared. Uh you

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know, the safety on the network is

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shared between individual drivers, you

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know, the decisions that we all make

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when we get into our cars. Are Are we

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going to put on our seatbelt? Are we

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going to drive intoxicated? Are we going

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to drive the speed limit? These are

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decisions that we all make individually.

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responsibility is shared is a is a big

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pedestrians have a responsibility as

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the rules of the road and follow the the

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really targeting these fatal and serious

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injuries. And and preventing preventing

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Okay, so uh how did we go about doing

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this this study? Um well, it is kind of

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to boil it down, we we kind of had three

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steps. You know, number one, what and

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where are the problems? You know, we

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need to kind of understand what where

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are the what and where are the problems?

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Uh number two, what and where are the

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priority problems? And number three,

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what are the preferred solutions? So,

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hopefully a fairly straightforward kind

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of rational approach you might take to

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to any kind of problem. Um, and you can

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see we're in this last step now. Here's

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a little bit more detailed view of the

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process we've taken. So, we chose two

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ways or kind of two methods, two avenues

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of of answering the questions what and

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where are the problems. Uh, we took a a

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technical analysis where we were looking

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at uh, crash data of crashes that have

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happened on the network. That was data

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provided by the Kansas Department of

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Transportation as reported by uh, the

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Newton City Police and the Harvey County

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Sheriff's Office.

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Um, and then we also took um, and also

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looked at other technical data, looked

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at volumes, had engineering assessments.

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Um, that that was really the heart of

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the the technical approach. Um, and then

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you can see there we had a community

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engagement approach. So, a big part of

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this

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Safe Streets for All program is

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involving the community, having it be

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community-driven, having it be um, not

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just a technical study. Um, beca- again,

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some of it is to

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um, you know, sort of get input, but

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also some of it is to be able to

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reiterate this notion that it is a

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shared responsibility for of all of us

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to to have a safe network.

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So, we went through and essentially

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evaluated those. We were able to sort of

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define the major problems um, from each

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one separately and then we narrowed

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those down to what are the major ones we

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want to focus on, both the locations and

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some behavior uh, or road condition

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problems.

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And then now we're in this what are what

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are the preferred solutions? Um,

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so you'll see a little bit later we've

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got some capital concepts as well as

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non-capital recommendations, things like

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the mayor had mentioned, education

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campaigns or um, enforcement enforcement

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options.

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So, and then you'll see for the rest of

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the project, we've got we're coming up

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on our next round of community

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engagement. That's one of the main

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reasons we want to come here and visit

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with you tonight um to make sure that uh

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you get to see these before they roll

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out um and you're prepared if your

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constituents are asking questions about

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that.

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Uh then we'll go through the final

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vetting, final recommendations, and of

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course have our final documents that

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should all wrap up early next year.

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Uh so, like I mentioned, really the goal

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for the presentation today is really to

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sort of brief you on on what what's been

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happening with this project, the work

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done to date. Uh number two, prepare you

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for this community engagement round two,

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um and and define next steps. So, we

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will be um out in the community over the

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next couple weeks, 2-3 weeks, I guess,

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and just wanted to make sure you all had

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a chance to see this before it sort of

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rolled out publicly.

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So, uh I'm going to go through this

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technical technical analysis summary, as

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well as our community engagement.

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So, the crash analysis is really the

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heart of the technical analysis. Um I

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just put some statistics up there just

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to share some of this with you, so you

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can see over the last 5 years um for the

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entirety um or for the the city of

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Newton area, we there was 32 fatalities

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and 56 serious injury crashes uh that

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took place on the public network. Um and

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then um you can see some of those

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statistics really that bottom one was,

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you know, 63% of all crashes are

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occurring on local roads and 37% on the

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highways. And again, that's all crashes.

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Uh so, KDOT does a really good job of

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providing this that the data's very

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detailed. Um in general, it's sort of

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divided into uh fatal crashes, injury

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crashes, and property damage only. So,

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that you can think of that as like maybe

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you backed into a tree in your yard or

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you had a fender bender with the person

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in front of you.

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>> Does Denise have a copy of this

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» Does Denise have a copy of this

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presentation she can send out to us?

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>> Mhm. Yes. And we have a lot more data

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» Mhm. Yes. And we have a lot more data

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that we're happy to share. Um I've sort

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of just weaned the the most important

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things for tonight, but we're happy to

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to share more information if you'd like

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to dive into this a little bit more.

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>> The other thing to remember is when we

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» The other thing to remember is when we

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started this process, we were just into

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um 2025 and so the data that was

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available was that 5-year period from

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2020 to 2024. So if don't go, "Why are

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you using old data?" Well, that was the

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data that was available at the time.

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>> Yes, and the 5 years is an industry

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» Yes, and the 5 years is an industry

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standard of looking at crash data to get

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uh it's it's sort of a representative

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trend.

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So we took that. Um we got some of this

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basic information. We

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put that into what we call a high injury

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network.

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Um

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and I'm sort of summarizing a lot of

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this to to get to this end product. Um

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so

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Yeah, I skipped I skipped those cuz they

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were real detailed. So we we have more

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information in the PowerPoint if we want

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to see some more detail, but um

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essentially we were looking at the

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spatial distribution of crashes as well

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as the

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type of crashes and the contributing

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circumstances that led to the crashes.

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Um as well as an engineering assessment

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of each location where a crash happened

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and sort of compare that with the

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volumes that were taking place or the

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amount of car traffic volumes that were

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on these roadways.

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So here were the from the technical

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perspective, sort of the major issues

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here in Newton.

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Um really focused on the intersections

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at the local streets. Um there's

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definitely a disproportionate risk to

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pedestrians and bicyclists

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um

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in terms of sort of

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um serious injuries and fatalities as

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compared to their representation in the

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system, their activity in the system.

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um

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The behavioral factors multiply the

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severity. We've listed those there. Um

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distraction, speed, alcohol, and drugs.

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Um you know, for example, if a crash

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were to happen let's say a property

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damage only crash were to happen when

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when these fourth other things get

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involved, the severity of course

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increases.

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um

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Number four, urban context increases the

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risk.

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That is just sort of an um I'm going to

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say unfortunate reality that cities have

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a lot more activity, a lot more conflict

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points. There's more intersection,

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there's more volumes, there's more

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traffic, there's more people.

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Um and in any kind of situation when you

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have more of something

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the risk is going to increase. So,

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that's just the truth um for any sort of

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urban setting. And then you can see the

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last thing there are the locations. So,

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these these primarily came out of our

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crash analysis. So, um I-135 uh through

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the city limits, um 12th Street, really

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that uh corridor south of the high

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school

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um Grandview, which is uh just uh east

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of the high school

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the Main and 12th Street intersection

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Main Street from all the way up at north

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city limits down to first, uh Washington

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sort of continuing that uh where it

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starts, and then Anderson Avenue north

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of 12th also over by the high school,

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and then Kansas from first to US-50. So,

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those were sort of our top two tiers

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um of locations coming out of the

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technical perspective.

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Before I shift on to the community

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engagement perspective, any questions or

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questions to date?

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>> that 2022 looked like the numbers were

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» that 2022 looked like the numbers were

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the highest in 2022, and then they

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dropped off.

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Is there

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» I just wondered what was happening at

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that time.

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>> I don't know. Drive to zero.

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» I don't know. Drive to zero.

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>> Nothing immediately comes to mind.

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» Nothing immediately comes to mind.

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Suzanne has a possible theory.

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>> Yeah, I I don't recall the the year that

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» Yeah, I I don't recall the the year that

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KDOT kicked off their Drive to Zero

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um campaign. It may have been in there,

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which so you start seeing more about it.

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You start thinking more drive safe, more

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enforcement, those kind of things. I'm

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not sure the year that it started. It

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could line up with that.

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>> Yeah.

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» Yeah.

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>> The following year.

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» The following year.

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>> the Newton part, not the unincorporated

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» the Newton part, not the unincorporated

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part. The Newton part, I noticed that

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2022 those numbers seem to be higher.

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>> Yes, I'm happy to take that back to our

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» Yes, I'm happy to take that back to our

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team and see if we can get a

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>> I just couldn't recall anything that was

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» I just couldn't recall anything that was

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going on at that time, but just it's

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just interesting to see that why then?

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>> Right.

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» Right.

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>> was happening in the community then? Was

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» was happening in the community then? Was

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there a lot of issues with streets? Were

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we working on streets at that time?

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>> like a lot of construction.

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» like a lot of construction.

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>> driving cuz it was post-COVID. They were

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» driving cuz it was post-COVID. They were

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going back to work.

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>> Yeah.

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» Yeah.

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>> Could be any number of things.

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» Could be any number of things.

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>> Okay.

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» Okay, anything else on the technical

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part or

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kind of the study introduction? Okay.

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Okay. Um here's the same information for

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the the unincorporated part of the of

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Harvey County. So, the major takeaways

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from the technical perspective, um

550
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,760
roadway departure and loss of control

551
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,160
crashes,

552
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,080
um speed and high energy crash

553
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,960
environment. You can imagine there's

554
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,040
higher speeds out in the county. Um one

555
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,440
surprising thing was uh lack of occupant

556
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,760
protection. Um I think our numbers

557
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,120
coming in for the county in terms of not

558
00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:00,880
wearing a seatbelt or or lack of

559
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,400
occupant protection was maybe um

560
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,080
significantly under the statewide

561
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,360
average and under uh the county average.

562
00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:09,240
So, or the statewide average and the

563
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,120
national average. So, that was a

564
00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:13,560
surprising thing that came out of this.

565
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,040
Um there's some behavioral factors. Um

566
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,040
intersection crashes less frequent than

567
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,840
Newton, but likely to be fatal. And then

568
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,600
we had locations uh pulled out for the

569
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,120
unincorporated part of the county as

570
00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:28,190
well.

571
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,480
Okay, let's move on to the the second

572
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,400
perspective was community engagement.

573
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,120
So, our round one engagement was really

574
00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:38,080
um where we were asking folks about

575
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,840
their use of the network. We asked folks

576
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,640
about their um you know, the heart of

577
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,600
this was asking, you know, where where

578
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,400
is the network safe and where is it

579
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,680
unsafe? That was really the heart of

580
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,320
this. You can see some of our numbers

581
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,280
there um in terms of having open houses,

582
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,600
stakeholder sessions. We had surveys, um

583
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,760
some comments, individual comments came

584
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,800
in over five right around 500.

585
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,200
Um so, in addition to the general

586
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,720
public, we also had these stakeholder

587
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,880
groups where we were targeting people

588
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,760
that had um expert knowledge in safety.

589
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,960
So, you can see we um really had a

590
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,280
really great group with the first

591
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,080
responders here in the area. That's from

592
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,320
our picture.

593
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,480
Um so, we really targeted either folks

594
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,840
with expertise, so the first responders

595
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,400
or our public works groups, or groups

596
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,880
that were especially impacted by how the

597
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,800
transportation system functions and or

598
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,240
had some sort of stake in it. Uh so, you

599
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,720
can see the range there, everything from

600
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,280
civic groups to teenagers to uh public

601
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,520
and private schools. So, really trying

602
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,280
to be diverse and representative and go

603
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,800
to them and and in these groups we had

604
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,560
invitation-only uh small group sessions

605
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,280
with representatives from all of these.

606
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,440
So, really try to get their their

607
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,440
knowledge and and uh input as well as

608
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,680
from the general public.

609
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,030
>> That was our both both fellows civic

610
00:23:01,030 --> 00:23:01,040
» That was our both both fellows civic

611
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,720
group with that that group in the group.

612
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,590
>> [laughter]

613
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:03,600
» [laughter]

614
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,590
>> Yes.

615
00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:05,600
» Yes.

616
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,360
The emergency services version.

617
00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:10,960
Uh this was just some stats on our

618
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,440
public open houses. We had five in total

619
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,520
uh counting our virtual one.

620
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,880
And really the main issues that came out

621
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,800
of these uh community engagement

622
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,960
sessions was um in terms of behaviors, a

623
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,320
lot of concern about speeding,

624
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,360
aggressive driving, and non-compliance

625
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:30,520
with traffic laws. You can see about a

626
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,160
third of sort of votes were concerned

627
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,080
about that, distracted driving just

628
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,560
right around there also at 30%. Uh

629
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,400
roadway conditions, sort of the top vote

630
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,240
getter was, you know, adding pedestrian

631
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,560
infrastructure.

632
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,000
Uh and then the locations that came out

633
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,280
of this, you can see perceived as safe

634
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,240
um

635
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,960
was sort of Main Street um as well as

636
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,920
the Sand Creek bike path,

637
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,800
which is a little bit contradictory

638
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,080
because it was an interesting finding.

639
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,800
It was sort of perceived as safe, but

640
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,080
through our technical analysis, it was

641
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,680
it was rated as um

642
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,200
a higher crash corridor. So, that was

643
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,240
sort of a a a uh interesting difference.

644
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,520
And then you can see the locations

645
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,720
perceived as unsafe. A lot of these were

646
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,440
well uh that first one was the same as

647
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,240
what we got out of our technical

648
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,280
assessment. Um

649
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,680
uh the the

650
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,840
the community input also added US 50,

651
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,880
uh East First Street east of the

652
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,640
Interstate, and then the south

653
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,240
interchange of I-135 and US 50.

654
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,200
So, and again, sort of a similar uh com-

655
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,600
comments on the bike ped features, you

656
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,160
know, safe is when there's dedicated

657
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,200
features, unsafe, you know, when there's

658
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,280
activity in a system that's designed for

659
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,400
vehicles.

660
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,132
>> and bicycles.

661
00:24:50,132 --> 00:24:50,142
» and bicycles.

662
00:24:50,142 --> 00:24:52,270
>> [clears throat]

663
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,080
» Okay, so through both of kind kind

664
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,760
combining this technical and um

665
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,240
community engagement, we kind of came

666
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,640
out with these what we called major

667
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,440
problems. Um for this one's for Newton

668
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,360
and we have have a a similar one for

669
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,680
unincorporated Harvey County. Uh so you

670
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,480
can see here we've got sort of two sets

671
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,000
of locations.

672
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,520
Um and then we um also added some

673
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,440
behaviors there.

674
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,880
And um kind of a focus on pedestrian

675
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,720
bicycle activity and then intersections,

676
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,440
especially the stop stop controlled

677
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:30,430
ones.

678
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,120
Okay, and then for Harvey County, we

679
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:35,920
have a similar um similar list here. So

680
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,120
you can see here the for the specific

681
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:40,440
locations uh

682
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,360
the the state system had a lot of uh

683
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:45,280
really came out on top and then local

684
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,920
system, we had some local local roads,

685
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,840
county roads listed there as well as

686
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,800
some sort of behaviors and sis-

687
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,240
system-wide things to focus on. Uh for

688
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,240
example, low seatbelt usage, you know,

689
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,880
is kind of a system-wide uh

690
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,550
thing.

691
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,640
So from

692
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,160
those two data sets together, we took

693
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,560
the technical data, um took the

694
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,560
stakeholder input. And I had to Suzanne

695
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,960
and I worked on this presentation

696
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,240
together, put together. I just had a

697
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,520
laugh. She's the engineer and I'm a

698
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,640
planner.

699
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,480
And I I just had to chuckle a little bit

700
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,880
cuz she put in this equation

701
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,680
uh in the PowerPoint. So we have a we

702
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,280
have a math equation there of the

703
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,320
technical data plus the stakeholder

704
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,360
input um community engagement from the

705
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,680
general public, plus we want really

706
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,800
wanted to focus on those things that

707
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,360
your local jurisdiction sort of has

708
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:42,600
control over or can control. Uh we

709
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,440
wanted to really focus on that, right?

710
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,120
We don't necessarily want to have a a

711
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:49,920
KDOT a highway project in here for a a

712
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,600
recommendation

713
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,560
for the city to take on, something like

714
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,920
that. But, when things rise to the top

715
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,360
that are on the state network, we will

716
00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:02,680
be discussing that with KDOT staff. So,

717
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,760
it won't go Yes, it won't just be thrown

718
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,760
aside and nobody talk about it. We will

719
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,360
be taking it back to them cuz we've

720
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:13,830
already met with those folks once.

721
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,800
So, we've got two sets of, I guess, what

722
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,760
we're you might call recommendations.

723
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,080
So, one thing is called countermeasures

724
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,080
and the other one is concepts. So, I'm

725
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,080
going to cover the countermeasures and

726
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,680
then Suzanne is going to cover the

727
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,160
specific concepts at specific locations.

728
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,320
So, countermeasures,

729
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,280
what are countermeasures?

730
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:34,920
Um,

731
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,240
really this is just sort of a fancy term

732
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,640
that means

733
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,320
some sort of action or thing you do that

734
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,240
reduces the frequency or severity of

735
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,600
crashes,

736
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,800
especially fatal or severe fatal or

737
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,480
serious injury ones.

738
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,120
Um, really on a systematic level. So,

739
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:57,800
you might think of maybe like an

740
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,760
education campaign about

741
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,880
seatbelt usage. That's sort of targeted

742
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,120
to all users.

743
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:08,040
It's not necessarily at a specific

744
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,240
location. Or you might think of sort of

745
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,000
a capital project like, for example,

746
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,240
rumble strips. Let's this would maybe be

747
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,960
more appropriate for the a county and

748
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,640
unincorporated roadway. Let's think of

749
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,880
rumble strips. You know, that's

750
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,920
something that could go across the

751
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,040
entirety of the network at a relatively

752
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,520
low cost. Um, so that's really what

753
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,240
these countermeasures are intended to

754
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,800
have a a big bang for your money. You

755
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,800
know, a relatively low cost um, of

756
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,560
something an application that can be

757
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,040
applied across the entirety of the

758
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,600
network. So, that's really what we're

759
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,720
meaning when we say countermeasures.

760
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,440
So, we've um,

761
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,440
worked with um

762
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,960
the staff and have come up with

763
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,600
countermeasures for all these different

764
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,640
categories of things.

765
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,480
And I'm going to go just give a few

766
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,720
examples so you can kind of get a sense

767
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,680
here.

768
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,440
So, for example, roadway and lane

769
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,240
departures. Um this is something that is

770
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,440
a uh one of the things that rose to the

771
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,800
surface in the county, the

772
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,000
unincorporated county areas.

773
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,760
Um and so for a capital option, like I

774
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,760
mentioned, you could do rumble strips

775
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,720
along the center line and rumble strips

776
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,320
on the edge, on the the edge of pavement

777
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,240
line. And really the goal here is it uh

778
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,960
alerts drivers from drifting out of the

779
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,040
lane.

780
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Um probably many of us have ridden have

781
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,440
experienced these rumble strips.

782
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,880
Um and these have been proven to reduce

783
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,920
fatal and serious injury crashes

784
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,160
anywhere from you can see 36% to 44%

785
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,120
kind of depending on the environment

786
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,400
that it's in. So, that's a a pretty big

787
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,840
bang in terms of a uh

788
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,760
reducing crashes for a relatively low

789
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,840
cost, right? You're not going in and

790
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,160
tearing up the roadway or reconfiguring

791
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,240
the whole intersection.

792
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,200
Um and then here's an example of a

793
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,160
programmatic activity is uh you could

794
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,960
maybe add a line item or a budget for a

795
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,920
road safety audit program in your annual

796
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,280
CIP or your annual street maintenance

797
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,520
budget. And that would say you would

798
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,280
say, "Hey, we're going to do

799
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,200
uh five road safety audits every year."

800
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,720
You know, you would set the number and

801
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,800
you would say, "We're going to really

802
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,240
focus on going to specific locations,

803
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,840
specific intersections, or we're going

804
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,160
to pick three, we're going to pick

805
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,080
five." Whatever your number is, we're

806
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,120
going to pick that many and we're going

807
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,440
to go out and we're going to do a road

808
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,520
safety audit and we're going to really

809
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,120
dive in and see what is going on at that

810
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,640
particular location safety-wise.

811
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,150
>> And there's multiple capital options to

812
00:30:35,150 --> 00:30:35,160
» And there's multiple capital options to

813
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,240
treat this contributing factor and

814
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,360
multiple programmatic activities. We're

815
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,000
just trying to give you some examples

816
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,120
just quickly. We didn't want you to have

817
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,080
to be here all night.

818
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,590
>> Yes.

819
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,680
Um here's another one for pedestrian

820
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,080
bicycle. So, if they're if there's a um

821
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,000
a location where pedestrians and

822
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,600
bicyclists are that

823
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,520
um we've got a a capital option there of

824
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,000
these crossing improvements. You've

825
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,920
maybe have seen these crossing lights or

826
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,280
high-visibility crosswalks.

827
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,480
Uh again, lots of options. Um and then

828
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,760
here's a couple programmatic activities

829
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,520
of you know, maybe um looking at uh some

830
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,480
sort of policy that covers sort of the

831
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,000
responsibility of users as well as kind

832
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,680
of the city's approach to, you know, how

833
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,360
do you want to account for them as

834
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,080
you're building and maintaining your

835
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,760
roadway network.

836
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,600
Um or here's another option is, you

837
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,280
know, to partner with the school

838
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,920
district or health department. And I

839
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,600
know a lot of that's already happening

840
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,040
now to do classes and have education on,

841
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,600
you know, how to bike or walk um use

842
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,150
under traffic laws.

843
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,600
» Some of that may already be going on

844
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,200
now, but think about the fact that we're

845
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,800
trying to put together a traffic safety

846
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,320
plan for you. This is This is a plan for

847
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,160
the city to use moving forward. And then

848
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,320
that plan gets referenced when you start

849
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,360
applying for grants. And so, we're

850
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,560
trying to match up those factors with

851
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,280
some things that you can do that are low

852
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,960
cost and put that in your plan and then

853
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,280
be able to reference that when you're

854
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,560
applying for grants.

855
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,830
>> Yes, I probably should have said that at

856
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:09,840
» Yes, I probably should have said that at

857
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,960
the very beginning. That was really the

858
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,000
the reason for doing this whole plan is

859
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,960
it was a requirement to have this plan

860
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,920
done in order to

861
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,160
um capture be able to even apply for a

862
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,680
capital grant through this program. So,

863
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,840
probably should have said that at the

864
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,200
beginning. I always kind of make a joke,

865
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,240
we have to go through this dumb plan to

866
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,957
get the project we want to do.

867
00:32:29,957 --> 00:32:30,550
>> [laughter]

868
00:32:30,550 --> 00:32:30,560
» [laughter]

869
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,150
>> So, we'll go through this exercise. So,

870
00:32:32,150 --> 00:32:32,160
» So, we'll go through this exercise. So,

871
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,880
last example here was uh occupant

872
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,800
protection. You might remember uh this

873
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,000
is one

874
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:38,680
um

875
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,240
surprising thing we sort of learned

876
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,120
through this, especially in the

877
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,400
unincorporated part of the county. Um

878
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,280
so, here's a couple capital options

879
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,360
about just really adding a sign um or

880
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,040
having stations to uh inspect, you know,

881
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,040
child protection seats uh

882
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,400
uh car seats, you might know them as,

883
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,400
or programmatic activities. KDOT has

884
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,680
several uh programs um for um

885
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,040
you know, how to support um inspecting

886
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,720
um how car seats are installed. So,

887
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,600
taking advantage of programs that other

888
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,120
groups, you know, other um governments

889
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,840
or other groups are already doing. Sort

890
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,560
of promoting those or taking advantage

891
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,920
of them.

892
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,960
So, now I'm going to turn it over to

893
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,560
Suzanne, and she's going to talk a

894
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,600
little bit about the um concepts that

895
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,360
we're developed. I will say that um so,

896
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,360
as part of this uh part of our scope to

897
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,400
effort, um we were scoped to develop uh

898
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,600
five separate concepts for it for shared

899
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,720
over both the city and the county. Um

900
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,000
and the idea of developing these

901
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,920
concepts is is that these, you know,

902
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,880
whichever one is kind of selected or

903
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,360
rise to the top, um could be one could

904
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,440
be applied for by the city, and then one

905
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,440
could be applied for by the county to

906
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,720
get this capital grant that's coming out

907
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,920
of this. So, keep that in mind, and um

908
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,480
I'll I'll turn over to Suzanne.

909
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,950
>> Okay. So, the other thing I want you to

910
00:33:59,950 --> 00:33:59,960
» Okay. So, the other thing I want you to

911
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,280
keep in mind as we look at the concepts,

912
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,520
be open-minded. Um these are not

913
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,560
recommendations.

914
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,790
>> bad if she's already giving you a

915
00:34:07,790 --> 00:34:07,800
» bad if she's already giving you a

916
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,480
disclaimer. Okay.

917
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,510
>> giving the disclaimer. Be open-minded

918
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:11,520
» giving the disclaimer. Be open-minded

919
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,080
about these. These are not

920
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,840
recommendations.

921
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,800
These are element We are putting forward

922
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,679
some concepts that have multiple

923
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:23,399
elements for the public to see, discuss,

924
00:34:23,399 --> 00:34:25,320
because remember we're taking this to

925
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,720
the public forum, and going to get input

926
00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:30,120
from the public. And the items that were

927
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,120
chosen were chosen based on all of the

928
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,080
technical information, and then the

929
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,200
public input that was put together. And

930
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,159
so, we're trying to address the things

931
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:43,800
that we think will hit um the ability to

932
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,840
decrease those fatalities and the severe

933
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,840
accidents.

934
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,430
>> And prevent others from happening.

935
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:49,440
» And prevent others from happening.

936
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,550
>> Yes. Um so,

937
00:34:51,550 --> 00:34:51,560
» Yes. Um so,

938
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,310
>> I might I might add, it's safety driven.

939
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:54,320
» I might I might add, it's safety driven.

940
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,510
>> Safety. These things are about safety.

941
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:57,520
» Safety. These things are about safety.

942
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,120
It doesn't always look at is this best

943
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,640
for um you know, the business that sits

944
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,480
right here, or for the homeowner that

945
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,440
sits right here.

946
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,200
It's looking at the safety on the

947
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,960
transportation network. So, okay,

948
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,760
there's my qualifiers. We'll roll on,

949
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,040
okay?

950
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,320
So, the first one um we're at 12th

951
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,480
Street, and this is up by the high

952
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,400
school, so we're going from Boyd over to

953
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,400
Plum. And all of these concepts, these

954
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,240
are drafts. These are not final plans,

955
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:28,280
okay?

956
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,480
And the city has looked at this location

957
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,160
on multiple occasions, right? Because

958
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,960
there's been lots of comment, not just

959
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,440
during this

960
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,480
um community engagement process, but in

961
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,800
the past, there's been a lot of people

962
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,880
that have talked about this location.

963
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,000
So, several of the elements that are

964
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,000
being looked at

965
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,670
>> And the technical data supports it. It

966
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:45,680
» And the technical data supports it. It

967
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,720
was really in the top tier.

968
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:48,830
>> Absolutely, it was in the top tier. So,

969
00:35:48,830 --> 00:35:48,840
» Absolutely, it was in the top tier. So,

970
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,360
several of the items I'm going to point

971
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,720
out to you, we've got all of them on

972
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,560
here. You could implement all of them,

973
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,400
or we could implement one of them, or

974
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,080
you may say, "Nah, we're not interested

975
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,200
in this." And you want to get public

976
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,160
input before you make those decisions,

977
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,160
right?

978
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,960
So, one of the items that is looked at

979
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,480
along the south side of 12th Street is a

980
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,440
bike lane. This is a bike lane that

981
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,920
would be going eastbound only.

982
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,040
Okay?

983
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,840
And then, there is an option And in

984
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,600
order to put that in,

985
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,160
and in order to look at this protected

986
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,080
left-hand turn that's running down the

987
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,720
middle of 12th Street. And remember,

988
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,320
we're going from Boyd, it goes Boyd this

989
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,120
direction, and then it picks up and

990
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,640
we're going all the way over here, okay?

991
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,520
Here Here's Grandview. We'll We'll end

992
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,880
up farther down, but this is the

993
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,480
application for this area.

994
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,120
We also would be looking at a protected

995
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,480
left-hand turn all the way up to Here's

996
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,080
Grandview as it goes to the south.

997
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,760
And in order to do that, right now

998
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,720
you've got four lanes there.

999
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,280
So, this would shrink it down to that

1000
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,160
three lane. In order to get a bike lane

1001
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,280
on there and have that protected

1002
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,640
left-hand turn all the way along.

1003
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,440
Um

1004
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,640
what this does, the reason that we look

1005
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,440
at this location, this was a high

1006
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,280
accident location.

1007
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,640
And there's a lot of traffic. There's a

1008
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,840
lot of young drivers. There's a lot of

1009
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,160
pedestrians that cross here. Remember,

1010
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,120
we've talked about that in the past at

1011
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,200
the city level that are going back and

1012
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,360
forth across 12th Street. Um the green

1013
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,240
that you see on here, this is bike

1014
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,880
crossings. It's bike and ped going north

1015
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,200
and south. It's bike only going to the

1016
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,240
east and west.

1017
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,360
The other application that is added here

1018
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,160
is some additional signage that goes

1019
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,960
along with a 10-ft multi-use path on the

1020
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,200
north side.

1021
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,160
So, you'd be coming from Boyd and you

1022
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,280
could take it as far as Berry or you

1023
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,640
could take it all the way to Main

1024
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,720
Street, but that is an application that

1025
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:47,320
would be considered.

1026
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,600
Um

1027
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,840
and currently we're not showing any

1028
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,480
changes to the exit here um out of the

1029
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,080
parking lot for the high school. It's

1030
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,600
something that could be discussed later

1031
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,760
if this was selected. And then the other

1032
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,720
thing to point out is there's another

1033
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:03,520
element that is a protected right turn

1034
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,160
lane into the school.

1035
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,520
If you were westbound on 12th Street and

1036
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,040
going to be turning in here because

1037
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,960
often you will see vehicles backing up

1038
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,760
along here. And if we're going to shrink

1039
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,440
it down to only one lane in each

1040
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,600
direction, maybe we need to stack some

1041
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,280
vehicles in there. And And the traffic

1042
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,160
counts would show that.

1043
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,710
Okay?

1044
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:27,440
So, that's that's one element to

1045
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,640
consider or one multiple elements

1046
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,520
one design option there.

1047
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,840
Then we go farther to the east, okay?

1048
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,000
So, we are going from Anderson. Here's

1049
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,400
Anderson.

1050
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,880
And then going all the way down all the

1051
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,000
way down over to here's Plum and then

1052
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,560
you get right over here and here's San

1053
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,560
Creek.

1054
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,000
So, it doesn't show on the picture, but

1055
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,360
just to put it in your mind where we're

1056
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,950
at. And in this location, um

1057
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,920
there were a lot of comments that we

1058
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,440
received during the community

1059
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,200
engagement, plus there had been some

1060
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,760
accidents throughout this area, but a

1061
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,120
lot of comments that people are confused

1062
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,640
because 12th Street is split. And so,

1063
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,400
when you come out in one area, if you're

1064
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,440
doing a cross one of these cross streets

1065
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,120
or you're on one of the ends, sometimes

1066
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,840
people don't know which direction they

1067
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,360
need to be going and they may end up

1068
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,000
going the wrong way. They may be going

1069
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,040
eastbound when they should be going

1070
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,560
westbound. And so, some of the things

1071
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,920
that were suggested here was definitely

1072
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,120
um having some improved signage. And you

1073
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,840
can see there's multiple locations where

1074
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,440
we're showing different signs that would

1075
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,960
be added in. And eliminating

1076
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,000
uh closing some of these crossings. So,

1077
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,800
at Elm, there would is a recommended

1078
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,400
closure. And then at Vine, there is a

1079
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,440
recommended closure.

1080
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,040
Which just means that somebody may have

1081
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,840
to turn and then come back to get to

1082
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,320
where they needed to be, but there are

1083
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,720
multiple crossings here and maybe you

1084
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:54,280
don't need so many and that would make

1085
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,320
it be less confusing for the driving

1086
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,720
public.

1087
00:39:57,720 --> 00:40:00,350
>> And from a safety perspective, um you

1088
00:40:00,350 --> 00:40:00,360
» And from a safety perspective, um you

1089
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,720
know, we

1090
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:05,160
it's sort of balancing access with

1091
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,040
with um and so, just closing off one

1092
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,480
uh entry point reduces a conflict point.

1093
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,320
You know, that's really the the point

1094
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,600
there. So, you know, if you think about

1095
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:18,200
uh

1096
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,400
having conflicts with people, you know,

1097
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,800
if you take one person out of the

1098
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,520
situation, sometimes the the conflict

1099
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,480
will go down. So, that's that's sort of

1100
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,920
how I think about on these conflict

1101
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,520
points, if you can reduce one or reduce

1102
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,960
a meaningful one, it can really help

1103
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,000
kind of the overall

1104
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,080
opportunity for crash to happen.

1105
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,560
Okay?

1106
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,000
All right, we'll go to the next.

1107
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,640
Next is Main Street. And we're going to

1108
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,200
do this in pieces, okay? So, the first

1109
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:53,080
one is the BNSF tracks to 8th Street.

1110
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,560
Now, there's multiple concepts here.

1111
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,600
So, bear with me. Here is concept design

1112
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,760
one.

1113
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,760
Um you notice all these little bulb outs

1114
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,920
um at the intersections. And this has

1115
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,920
been talked about off and on before. Uh

1116
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,240
but the purpose of this, because again,

1117
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:15,120
lots of lots of crashes that occur along

1118
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,840
Main Street in this area, and

1119
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,080
pedestrians. And for years, the city has

1120
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,920
received comments about it's difficult

1121
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,600
for a pedestrian to be able to cross the

1122
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,600
street. Okay? And so, what this does is

1123
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,760
it extends that sidewalk out a bit.

1124
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,480
And it does multiple things. It gives

1125
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,600
them less distance to have to cross when

1126
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,480
they're crossing.

1127
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,440
So, that's a pro for your pedestrian,

1128
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,200
right? That's on the pro side, not the

1129
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,840
con side. It also puts them a little bit

1130
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,320
farther out into

1131
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,080
um Main Street, because like right in

1132
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,600
this area, there's parked cars. And when

1133
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,520
you're clear back here at the curb, can

1134
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,240
you guys see my cursor? I'm looking at a

1135
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,480
cur- Yeah, you can. Okay. So, when

1136
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,280
you're when you're standing back on the

1137
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,640
sidewalk, you can't see around those

1138
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,520
parked cars, but if you can get out a

1139
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,120
little bit farther, then you can see,

1140
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,200
and your sight distance for the

1141
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,080
pedestrian is better, and for the people

1142
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,760
that are driving to see the pedestrian

1143
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,760
is a little bit better. So, that helps

1144
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,960
with that. Um and when you put in these

1145
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,520
uh bulbs these bump outs at the

1146
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,920
intersection, it is a traffic calming

1147
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,320
device. So, the vehicles that are

1148
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,280
traveling along Main Street, you see a

1149
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,840
little bit of a neck down, and when

1150
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,480
you're driving, you automatically go,

1151
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,600
"Maybe I better slow down cuz it's more,

1152
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,440
you know, like I'm threading the

1153
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,600
needle." They wouldn't be super narrow,

1154
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,800
but it does slow people down a bit,

1155
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,680
which helps with

1156
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,600
transportation safety, okay?

1157
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,240
Um

1158
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:43,960
Okay, so that's concept

1159
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,400
design one.

1160
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,920
Kind of option one. Option one for this

1161
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,320
piece of Main Street.

1162
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,160
There's a That's kind of a blown-up area

1163
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,840
so you can see. It's It extends those

1164
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,080
out to the opposite side of the parking,

1165
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,280
the opposite the curb side.

1166
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,280
Now,

1167
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,960
I would be remiss if I didn't mention

1168
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,600
that there are some cons to this, and

1169
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,600
those cons come up when you start

1170
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,960
looking at drainage, um because you've

1171
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,360
got inlets at those intersections that

1172
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,000
take on water, and so getting

1173
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,800
a drainage to flow around that, there'll

1174
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,680
be some tricks that have to have to

1175
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,000
occur in the design, and uh street

1176
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,560
maintenance staff, when they're clearing

1177
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,960
snow,

1178
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,120
you can't just blade right on down

1179
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,200
straight through there. You're going to

1180
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,560
be going around little curved bulb outs,

1181
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,840
and that'll be an annoyance.

1182
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,000
So, with everything, pros and cons,

1183
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,000
right?

1184
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,280
Mhm. Okay.

1185
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,600
Now, here's

1186
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,720
Here's concept design 2A. I know these

1187
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:44,800
are little on the screen, but we've got

1188
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,240
things color-coded for you. And for this

1189
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:51,680
one, this adds a protected left turn.

1190
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,080
Um this protected left turn, right now

1191
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,480
you only have one, you know, right here

1192
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,040
at 5th Street.

1193
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,520
But this adds protected left turn all

1194
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,720
the way down from BNSF tracks to 8th

1195
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:03,920
Street.

1196
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,960
Which

1197
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,360
What that does for the driving public,

1198
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,080
you can see that it's offset. So, let me

1199
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,880
let me go to the bigger.

1200
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,200
Just to look here. So, when you're at

1201
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,160
8th Street, you see how the turn lane is

1202
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,800
right here, and it's not in the very

1203
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,080
middle of the road, it's offset.

1204
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,000
And that allows the person that is going

1205
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,760
to be making a left-hand turn that's in

1206
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,920
the vehicle to be able to see the

1207
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,840
oncoming traffic so that you aren't

1208
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,640
turning and end up with a T

1209
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,830
um accident.

1210
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,760
So, in order to have enough width to

1211
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,080
gain

1212
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,840
space for that left-hand that protected

1213
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,600
left-hand turn, there has to be

1214
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,480
a give and a take here. And so,

1215
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,160
in this option, design 2A, remember

1216
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,080
we're looking at this from a

1217
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,080
transportation safety, this is traffic

1218
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,320
safety, what we're looking at. The west

1219
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,600
side of Main Street, where we see the

1220
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,840
purple,

1221
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,240
would the parking would be eliminated.

1222
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:10,080
There would be no parking

1223
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,360
on that side in order to accommodate the

1224
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,560
width for that protected turn down the

1225
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,680
middle.

1226
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,400
And when we get to the end here, I'll

1227
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,280
tell you how many spaces it is that

1228
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,680
you'd be losing, okay?

1229
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,000
These are elements. You can pick and

1230
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,280
choose elements throughout. It may not

1231
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,440
be popular with everybody, but

1232
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,390
>> smiles to you.

1233
00:45:30,390 --> 00:45:30,400
» smiles to you.

1234
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,910
>> You You know

1235
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:31,920
» You You know

1236
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,390
>> getting some smiles.

1237
00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:33,400
» getting some smiles.

1238
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,110
>> I know

1239
00:45:34,110 --> 00:45:34,120
» I know

1240
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,710
>> I'm like, how do you choose which side

1241
00:45:35,710 --> 00:45:35,720
» I'm like, how do you choose which side

1242
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:36,520
of the road?

1243
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,470
>> Well, hang on a second.

1244
00:45:37,470 --> 00:45:37,480
» Well, hang on a second.

1245
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,030
>> Just a second.

1246
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:39,040
» Just a second.

1247
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,070
>> Here we go. Let's Let's look at the

1248
00:45:41,070 --> 00:45:41,080
» Here we go. Let's Let's look at the

1249
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,600
cross section, and then we'll move to

1250
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,160
the next one. So, if you're looking at a

1251
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,880
cross-sectional design, um you're

1252
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,240
getting

1253
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,280
you're you don't have any parking on the

1254
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,520
left side, but you did gain a little bit

1255
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,080
of sidewalk because that turn lane is

1256
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,080
not quite as wide when you take away

1257
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,880
parking, but you can't park half width

1258
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,160
of a car. So, you gain that other. Give

1259
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,131
them a chance. They will.

1260
00:46:04,131 --> 00:46:04,550
>> [laughter]

1261
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:04,560
» [laughter]

1262
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,550
>> Maybe. Except that it'll be up on the

1263
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:06,560
» Maybe. Except that it'll be up on the

1264
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,680
curb, so you gain a little bit over on

1265
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,200
that side for a little bit wider

1266
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,800
sidewalk. And I think you've been

1267
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,880
hearing in some of your comp plan

1268
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,520
discussions that people want to be able

1269
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,840
to have more space downtown and more

1270
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,200
sidewalk interaction and space to sit

1271
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,240
and walk and congregate.

1272
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:28,310
>> That was my filter, I mean, shut.

1273
00:46:28,310 --> 00:46:28,320
» That was my filter, I mean, shut.

1274
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,950
>> Yeah.

1275
00:46:29,950 --> 00:46:29,960
» Yeah.

1276
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,480
Again, these are just elements, right?

1277
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,680
Okay, so here's

1278
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,960
a concept design 2B.

1279
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,080
What this one does, same thing, you've

1280
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,560
got your lane going down the middle,

1281
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,120
you've still got your bulb outs, they're

1282
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,440
on, but they're only on one side. I

1283
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,840
didn't point that out on the last one.

1284
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,640
They're only on one side because if you

1285
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,200
don't have parking over here, um you

1286
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,760
don't want to have your bulb out, or you

1287
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,600
would have people driving into that bulb

1288
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,760
out. Um this puts the no parking on the

1289
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,120
east side. So, you see the purple, well,

1290
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,920
that's the parking on the east side. So,

1291
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,760
it's the same as it was in the last

1292
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,910
option, it's just flipped.

1293
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,920
There it is up close. Same as the other,

1294
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,190
just the other side. Okay?

1295
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,760
Looks the same in the cross section,

1296
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,080
we've just flipped it over.

1297
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,480
And there's

1298
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,240
no parking then on the east side.

1299
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,190
Okay?

1300
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,360
All right, then concept design three.

1301
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,440
This has This has your middle lane

1302
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,280
for turn.

1303
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,510
>> Both. Both. Both sides.

1304
00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:37,520
» Both. Both. Both sides.

1305
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,990
>> Um

1306
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:41,600
And

1307
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,950
>> What's your phone number?

1308
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:42,960
» What's your phone number?

1309
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,150
>> Uh-oh.

1310
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:44,160
» Uh-oh.

1311
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,110
>> Suzanne, we're getting

1312
00:47:45,110 --> 00:47:45,120
» Suzanne, we're getting

1313
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,750
>> Our traffic Our Our traffic engineers

1314
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:47,760
» Our traffic Our Our traffic engineers

1315
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,760
have brought this forward as something

1316
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,720
to consider. The public has an

1317
00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:54,320
opportunity to comment. This is not a

1318
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,920
recommendation. This is a concept, and

1319
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,760
there are multiple elements here. You

1320
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,240
may just want bull belts. You may want a

1321
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:03,400
turn lane only in one block. You may

1322
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,160
want which I would question that a

1323
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,600
little bit, but it's something to

1324
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,200
consider. You may decide there's one one

1325
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,600
block that you don't need as much

1326
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,560
parking.

1327
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,000
We're just trying to show you the

1328
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,640
elements of what you can do to help

1329
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,480
eliminate these conflict points, make

1330
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,320
the transportation network safer for the

1331
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,480
walking, biking, and driving public.

1332
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,680
Okay?

1333
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,440
So, this shows no parking both sides.

1334
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,880
And then you have definitely, you know,

1335
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,280
how many times have you been driving

1336
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,200
along and somebody opens their car door

1337
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,640
and then maybe that causes an issue. So,

1338
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,920
there's lots lots of things to consider

1339
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,200
when you start looking at no parking in

1340
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,800
a more

1341
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,840
Um and Kristen may smack me when I say

1342
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,360
this, but in a less less rural

1343
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,440
community, you know, that you wouldn't

1344
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,160
have parking necessarily downtown. It

1345
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,840
would be maybe behind the businesses.

1346
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,440
And then the places that you're going to

1347
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,720
go in and sit and you might have more

1348
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:05,600
tables out front along the sidewalk.

1349
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,080
That's the

1350
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,600
the thing that you're looking at within

1351
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,400
your comp plan. I understand that has

1352
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,520
been some of the things that have been

1353
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,080
brought forward for you to consider.

1354
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,800
Just to consider. These are just

1355
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,800
options. Okay?

1356
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,760
Um

1357
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,160
Here's the up close. So, and the next

1358
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,480
one is the one you really want to look

1359
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,800
at. So, here's your cross section for

1360
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,760
both east and west.

1361
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,080
And so, you have sidewalk

1362
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,560
and room for tables, room for people to

1363
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,520
congregate, and then people can still

1364
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,160
drive through. You can still get your

1365
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,840
traffic through.

1366
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,320
But you would be parking

1367
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,720
behind instead of along the street.

1368
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:52,430
Okay?

1369
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,480
Okay. Let's move to the next section of

1370
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,720
Main Street from the tracks south to

1371
00:49:57,720 --> 00:49:59,960
First Street.

1372
00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:01,160
Same applicant

1373
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:01,990
>> slide.

1374
00:50:01,990 --> 00:50:02,000
» slide.

1375
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,630
>> What?

1376
00:50:03,630 --> 00:50:03,640
» What?

1377
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,150
>> You skipped the one that shows how many

1378
00:50:05,150 --> 00:50:05,160
» You skipped the one that shows how many

1379
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,160
parking spaces we lost.

1380
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,750
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, you're right. I

1381
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:07,760
» Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, you're right. I

1382
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,400
did. I don't know what happened. Okay,

1383
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,640
so here the this shows parking spaces

1384
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,680
removed under each option. So 2A, when

1385
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,600
you remove parking on the west side, it

1386
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,600
gives you by block the number of parking

1387
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,840
spaces that are eliminated. Total of 50.

1388
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,960
Okay.

1389
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,080
For 2B, if you move it remove it along

1390
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,960
the east side, another total of 50,

1391
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,320
right?

1392
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,640
Um

1393
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,800
the third one where there's no parking

1394
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,560
on the east or the west, of course

1395
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,840
you're totaling them and there's a

1396
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,960
hundred. If you're looking at this map

1397
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,560
and we didn't get this on here yet, um

1398
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,600
but the colored dots, so if you're

1399
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,480
looking at this later, the purple dots

1400
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,480
um those are

1401
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,080
the parking that's eliminated during

1402
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,320
concept three. The green reflects

1403
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,320
concept 2B and the blue concept 2A.

1404
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,640
But the numbers tell the story, really.

1405
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,120
It's just looking at the blocks and

1406
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,280
where they'd be eliminated. Okay?

1407
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,110
>> Susan, I might mention too that even if

1408
00:51:05,110 --> 00:51:05,120
» Susan, I might mention too that even if

1409
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,200
we just did concept one with the bulb

1410
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,000
outs, you lose a stall for each one of

1411
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:10,680
the bulb outs.

1412
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,030
>> Yeah.

1413
00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:12,040
» Yeah.

1414
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,160
In most of those locations you would

1415
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,640
lose your full parking spot for those

1416
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,440
bulb outs.

1417
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,790
>> 50 sounds like a big number.

1418
00:51:19,790 --> 00:51:19,800
» 50 sounds like a big number.

1419
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:20,630
>> Yes, it does.

1420
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:20,640
» Yes, it does.

1421
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,710
>> I'm afraid we might be run out of town

1422
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:22,720
» I'm afraid we might be run out of town

1423
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:23,320
for making this

1424
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,750
>> You might be. But see, you're not making

1425
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:25,760
» You might be. But see, you're not making

1426
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,120
a decision. This is not a

1427
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,560
recommendation. These are elements to

1428
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:30,400
consider.

1429
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,710
>> just removing parking spaces.

1430
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:32,720
» just removing parking spaces.

1431
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:33,070
>> Mhm.

1432
00:51:33,070 --> 00:51:33,080
» Mhm.

1433
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,350
>> I mean, it's it's so tight anyway when

1434
00:51:35,350 --> 00:51:35,360
» I mean, it's it's so tight anyway when

1435
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,000
you come downtown and people are looking

1436
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,160
for spaces.

1437
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:38,910
>> Mhm.

1438
00:51:38,910 --> 00:51:38,920
» Mhm.

1439
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,870
>> Where do they go?

1440
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:40,880
» Where do they go?

1441
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,470
>> Yeah.

1442
00:51:41,470 --> 00:51:41,480
» Yeah.

1443
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,350
>> What would be the recommendation about

1444
00:51:43,350 --> 00:51:43,360
» What would be the recommendation about

1445
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,320
where they would go? Around the block or

1446
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,640
side streets or

1447
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,550
>> Mhm.

1448
00:51:47,550 --> 00:51:47,560
» Mhm.

1449
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,800
When you when you go to Walmart, you

1450
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,600
have to park

1451
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,640
several parking spaces away sometimes to

1452
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,680
get in. This would be similar to that.

1453
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,600
You'd park on a side street or behind

1454
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,480
and go in a back door.

1455
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,520
Now, you'll be glad to know that we are

1456
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,360
taking

1457
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,280
the similar presentation with these

1458
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,600
concepts to the public and one of the

1459
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,480
groups that we have invited all of them

1460
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,000
Jen has we helped us and we have the

1461
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,520
downtown group that we'll be speaking

1462
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,400
with. We're doing a special

1463
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,320
presentation for that group.

1464
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,840
So, they'll be able to give all kinds of

1465
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,240
comment very similar to how we did in

1466
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:26,800
the original

1467
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:27,480
um

1468
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,960
community engagement round. So, the

1469
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,720
purpose is to have people talk, but

1470
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:31,760
remember

1471
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,760
we would not be doing our job when

1472
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,280
looking at this

1473
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,520
transportation safety plan if we didn't

1474
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,080
bring all the options forward. It's okay

1475
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,720
that you are going to consider other

1476
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:45,400
things when looking at them.

1477
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,280
But, um

1478
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,960
you could say, "Well, you know what? If

1479
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,560
we don't have as many parking spaces

1480
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:51,600
downtown, the people aren't going to

1481
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,880
come downtown and we won't have to worry

1482
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,560
about it cuz there'll be less traffic

1483
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,440
and we won't but if we didn't provide

1484
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,880
these things

1485
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,400
then

1486
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:02,680
somebody else is going to say, "Yeah,

1487
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,200
but everybody keeps getting hit. How

1488
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,400
come you aren't doing anything about

1489
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,640
it?" So, we're just trying to find a

1490
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,600
happy medium here. Okay?

1491
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:10,720
All right. I have a couple questions.

1492
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:11,600
Yes.

1493
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,240
If we're talking broad concepts, is it

1494
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:16,000
possible to think about rather than

1495
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,400
going from four to five lanes with a

1496
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,200
dedicated turn lane is there any

1497
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,120
possibility to go to three lanes?

1498
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,920
And

1499
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,760
like one lane each way and a dedicated

1500
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,560
middle.

1501
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,560
Yes. There is, but the thing that you

1502
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,400
have to remember and I think this will

1503
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,830
become very evident

1504
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,760
when you sit downtown in traffic and a

1505
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,320
train goes by and then you remember uh

1506
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,880
you've got to have the stacking length,

1507
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,680
otherwise you're going to back people up

1508
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,440
clear down south of First Street and

1509
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,680
clear up to 12th Street. And because of

1510
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,600
the train the train factor, um

1511
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:52,150
>> Yeah.

1512
00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:52,160
» Yeah.

1513
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,750
>> I think that it is not good to consider.

1514
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:55,760
» I think that it is not good to consider.

1515
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,430
>> Our our team had thought about that

1516
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:57,440
» Our our team had thought about that

1517
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,800
because that notion of

1518
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,600
reducing, you know, let's say you had

1519
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,400
like a four-lane road, you know, two

1520
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,760
lanes in each direction, you know,

1521
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,080
reducing that to a three-lane with one

1522
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,560
lane in each direction with a center

1523
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,760
turn lane.

1524
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,600
Um that that has significance. Um I was

1525
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,160
just looking at the numbers here like 20

1526
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,320
to 50% reduction

1527
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,520
in fatal and serious injury crashes.

1528
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,960
Um you know, that that that has become

1529
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,560
very popular to handle kind of smaller

1530
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,800
volume roads or roads where the it can

1531
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,400
handle that. And we had thought about

1532
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,720
that, but really this train crossing and

1533
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:35,280
the the the stacking up of cars on both

1534
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,480
sides

1535
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,480
it just doesn't allow that.

1536
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:39,750
>> Yeah.

1537
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:39,760
» Yeah.

1538
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,270
>> Yeah. And

1539
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:41,280
» Yeah. And

1540
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,480
your responses to some of these that you

1541
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,880
know people are going to be concerned

1542
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,920
with, they're all good. They're all

1543
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,040
okay. It actually makes me look good

1544
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,000
because I've been having these same

1545
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,960
responses saying, "Hey, people are going

1546
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,120
to be upset about this, but there's

1547
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,280
going to be the same amount of people

1548
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,360
they're going to say, 'Hey, we've always

1549
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,160
wanted a downtown where you could have

1550
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,720
more pedestrian room and that kind of

1551
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:02,320
thing.'" So,

1552
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,880
you as elected officials, eventually

1553
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,720
you'll have some issue brought before

1554
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:08,400
you, but encourage people to come to

1555
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,360
these

1556
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,440
um

1557
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,320
to these community engagement um events

1558
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,880
in these open houses cuz that's where

1559
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,240
we'll hear

1560
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:17,400
what people have to say.

1561
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:18,630
>> something [snorts] that you probably

1562
00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:18,640
» something [snorts] that you probably

1563
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,440
should arm yourself and I would have

1564
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,320
appreciated having for this meeting is

1565
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,400
the number [clears throat] of parking

1566
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,040
spots

1567
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,280
that are within one block

1568
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,480
of

1569
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,470
>> I think we may have that.

1570
00:55:32,470 --> 00:55:32,480
» I think we may have that.

1571
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,510
>> Rich, I think we have that cuz we looked

1572
00:55:34,510 --> 00:55:34,520
» Rich, I think we have that cuz we looked

1573
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:35,080
at them.

1574
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,790
>> Not the not the bigger one that that

1575
00:55:37,790 --> 00:55:37,800
» Not the not the bigger one that that

1576
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,400
counts all the way over, you know, two

1577
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,160
blocks away or whatever. Um

1578
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,110
>> even though it's heart healthy to walk

1579
00:55:45,110 --> 00:55:45,120
» even though it's heart healthy to walk

1580
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,520
that far. It's just a reality. We need

1581
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,960
to know that information. And the other

1582
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,120
was

1583
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,920
um

1584
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,600
I don't know. It'll come to me.

1585
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,070
>> Okay. When you were saying that I I was

1586
00:55:58,070 --> 00:55:58,080
» Okay. When you were saying that I I was

1587
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,440
thinking probably would also be helpful

1588
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,160
to have just like the number of total

1589
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,880
spaces. So, we're saying we're removing

1590
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:03,440
50

1591
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,030
>> That's That's the other half of how

1592
00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:05,040
» That's That's the other half of how

1593
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:05,950
>> how many.

1594
00:56:05,950 --> 00:56:05,960
» how many.

1595
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,270
>> Cuz we're move we're losing 100 on Main

1596
00:56:08,270 --> 00:56:08,280
» Cuz we're move we're losing 100 on Main

1597
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,120
Street, but how many would we still

1598
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,560
have?

1599
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:12,270
>> elsewhere

1600
00:56:12,270 --> 00:56:12,280
» elsewhere

1601
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,110
>> elsewhere

1602
00:56:13,110 --> 00:56:13,120
» elsewhere

1603
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,590
>> we have those numbers cuz we went

1604
00:56:14,590 --> 00:56:14,600
» we have those numbers cuz we went

1605
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,320
through and looked at

1606
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,880
parking lots. So, if not, that's

1607
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,360
something we can look at.

1608
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,950
>> Did On any of these did you look,

1609
00:56:21,950 --> 00:56:21,960
» Did On any of these did you look,

1610
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,120
especially the when you're removing

1611
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,920
parking on one side or both sides, did

1612
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,560
you look at integrating a bike path or I

1613
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:34,270
mean a dedicated bike lane? Is that a

1614
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,960
» We talked about that.

1615
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,110
>> Is it possible, I guess, is what

1616
00:56:38,110 --> 00:56:38,120
» Is it possible, I guess, is what

1617
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,230
>> Well, it would be possible, of course.

1618
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:40,240
» Well, it would be possible, of course.

1619
00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:40,790
>> Okay.

1620
00:56:40,790 --> 00:56:40,800
» Okay.

1621
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:41,870
>> Um

1622
00:56:41,870 --> 00:56:41,880
» Um

1623
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,550
>> I mean, there's that's additional space.

1624
00:56:43,550 --> 00:56:43,560
» I mean, there's that's additional space.

1625
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,950
>> It is. And the reason There's multiple

1626
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:46,960
» It is. And the reason There's multiple

1627
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,960
reasons that we didn't look at it on

1628
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,960
K-15 directly. Um over the years, the

1629
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,240
the bicycling group in town definitely

1630
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:59,360
has called out other areas, um other

1631
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,480
roads that were off of the main drag

1632
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,560
because there's so much vehicle traffic

1633
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,640
on K-15 on Main Street that they have

1634
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,280
their bike route goes, um you know, to

1635
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,560
the east or the west of Main Street. And

1636
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:12,720
so,

1637
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:14,840
if you're looking to make this a more

1638
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,840
pedestrian-friendly

1639
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,240
area, keeping your bicycles in the other

1640
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,160
area, we're just trying to separate out

1641
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,600
things and make remembering the safety

1642
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:24,640
aspect, too.

1643
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,070
>> Yeah.

1644
00:57:25,070 --> 00:57:25,080
» Yeah.

1645
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,670
>> Yeah, but And that's a great question.

1646
00:57:26,670 --> 00:57:26,680
» Yeah, but And that's a great question.

1647
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,800
One of our activities um in these

1648
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,920
upcoming open houses is it's called a

1649
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,920
design charrette, and we're going to you

1650
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,120
know, be able to take a just an example

1651
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,240
stretch of of roadway, and it's say it's

1652
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,880
it's this wide, and you know, and then

1653
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,760
we have little little cutouts where you

1654
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,520
can say you can have two lanes that are

1655
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,480
12 ft wide, and you can have a bicycle

1656
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,280
lane that's 3 ft wide, or you can have a

1657
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,120
sidewalk that's this wide, and just you

1658
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,600
can kind of play around and see what

1659
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,920
fits. You know, do you want to have four

1660
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,920
lanes of car traffic? Do you want to

1661
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,480
have two lanes of car traffic, a turn

1662
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,160
lane, and then a and a bicycle lane on

1663
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,640
both sides? Um so, it just it's sort of

1664
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,800
it's a tangible way to sort of see we

1665
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,840
have set curb lines, and we're we're not

1666
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,120
going to move those. Um so, kind of what

1667
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,480
can fit what kind of configuration can

1668
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,840
fit in between.

1669
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,350
>> My last question is whether if there are

1670
00:58:17,350 --> 00:58:17,360
» My last question is whether if there are

1671
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,760
pros and cons to angle versus parallel

1672
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,120
parking safety-wise and otherwise.

1673
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,230
>> Mhm. There are lots of studies that show

1674
00:58:25,230 --> 00:58:25,240
» Mhm. There are lots of studies that show

1675
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,480
that angle parking you have more

1676
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,240
accidents when you have angle parking.

1677
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,840
The the width that we have downtown plus

1678
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,960
the train there makes it difficult to

1679
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,440
have angle parking. Keep the number of

1680
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,400
lanes you need to um

1681
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,640
to be able to move traffic through after

1682
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,440
a train. It's It would be difficult to

1683
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,640
do that.

1684
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,640
And then you look at angle parking. You

1685
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,080
have it on some of the side streets, but

1686
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,960
that's lower volume on the side streets

1687
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,160
um than the traffic on Main Street.

1688
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,750
>> I just I was recently in Lawrence and

1689
00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:57,760
» I just I was recently in Lawrence and

1690
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,600
noticed that on Mass Street they have

1691
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:00,560
all angle parking.

1692
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:01,350
>> Mhm. Yes.

1693
00:59:01,350 --> 00:59:01,360
» Mhm. Yes.

1694
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,230
>> Two lanes, I think maybe three two and a

1695
00:59:03,230 --> 00:59:03,240
» Two lanes, I think maybe three two and a

1696
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,080
dedicated turn and then angle parking.

1697
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,430
>> Mhm.

1698
00:59:06,430 --> 00:59:06,440
» Mhm.

1699
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:07,880
It's a little bit different because they

1700
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,040
have a lot bigger town with a lot more

1701
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,000
side streets, a lot other places that

1702
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,360
are happening, so.

1703
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,200
Okay. Um

1704
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,840
BNSF to First Street on Main Street.

1705
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,240
Same thing. Um concept one would be to

1706
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,800
do the bump-outs, right?

1707
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,430
>> And this is really a continuation of

1708
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:25,440
» And this is really a continuation of

1709
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,240
north

1710
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:26,750
>> It is.

1711
00:59:26,750 --> 00:59:26,760
» It is.

1712
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,590
>> north of the the tracks.

1713
00:59:28,590 --> 00:59:28,600
» north of the the tracks.

1714
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,470
>> And then the design the concept design

1715
00:59:31,470 --> 00:59:31,480
» And then the design the concept design

1716
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:32,600
2A

1717
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,880
same thing.

1718
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,760
You have the bump-outs on one side, you

1719
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,440
eliminate parking on one side, add your

1720
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,240
turn lane. Okay?

1721
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:46,960
And then 2B flips it to the other side.

1722
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,720
three

1723
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,080
eliminates

1724
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,560
all of the parking

1725
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,480
leaves the turn lane

1726
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,160
and

1727
00:59:55,160 --> 01:00:00,990
widens the sidewalk space. Okay?

1728
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,000
It's very It's It's just like the piece

1729
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,120
to the north. Okay?

1730
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,950
>> Mhm.

1731
01:00:05,950 --> 01:00:05,960
» Mhm.

1732
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,310
>> Okay.

1733
01:00:08,310 --> 01:00:08,320
» Okay.

1734
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,520
There is a

1735
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,040
the slide must have got eliminated, but

1736
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,280
there's a we can get it for you that

1737
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,960
shows the number of parking spaces for

1738
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,520
this section, too. I don't know what

1739
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:19,920
happened there.

1740
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:24,710
Um okay, Washington Road.

1741
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,240
The the concept design one, um this is

1742
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,560
from Southeast 10th to Southeast 8th.

1743
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,000
Um

1744
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,320
again, the reason that we are looking at

1745
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,280
different areas is because there are

1746
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,960
there were accidents and crashes at all

1747
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,000
of these intersections. And due to the

1748
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,400
sight distances, when you're coming when

1749
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,680
you have multiple legs

1750
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,720
of an intersection in this instance, you

1751
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,800
know, you've got five

1752
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,160
as they are today, and you have vehicles

1753
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,320
coming up to that intersection. The

1754
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:56,800
sight distance for somebody that's

1755
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,360
looking clear back, say you're pulling

1756
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,960
up there on Pine Street and you're

1757
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,280
looking trying to look north on

1758
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,560
Washington, it's difficult to see

1759
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:05,800
um

1760
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,640
for multiple reasons. Um Walnut, same

1761
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,640
same thing at Southeast 10th and Walnut.

1762
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,520
The sight distances, the points of

1763
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,240
conflict, and crossing multi-lane

1764
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,960
facilities here

1765
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,000
are the

1766
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,920
several of the reasons that we have

1767
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,840
accidents at these locations. So, what

1768
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,160
we looked at was

1769
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,400
trying to put a cul-de-sac and dead end

1770
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,120
one road that had another way out

1771
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,920
to eliminate one of the legs of the

1772
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,840
intersection.

1773
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,400
And we also have an element, remember,

1774
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,720
multiple elements. The other is turning

1775
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,240
this roadway into a three-lane facility

1776
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,320
so that you have the dedicated left turn

1777
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,400
lane that would be running

1778
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,400
the distance here.

1779
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:54,880
Cuz right now you've got four lanes, but

1780
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,680
boy, those are narrow little boogers,

1781
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,640
right? Um

1782
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,880
and so this turns it into three with the

1783
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,120
the third lane for the turning.

1784
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,920
There are multiple locations at these

1785
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,200
intersections where we are looking at

1786
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,880
and giving an option. These are not

1787
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,720
recommendations, these are for talking

1788
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,760
about. Um

1789
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,000
the cul-de-sacs. And you look here at

1790
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,720
Pine,

1791
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,480
Indian Lane doesn't have another way

1792
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:23,880
out.

1793
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,600
So, they still come out, right? Pine,

1794
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,160
you can go

1795
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,120
back to the north here by the ballpark

1796
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,480
and get out, and of course to the south

1797
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,400
Pine ties into the other cross streets,

1798
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,200
and you could get out.

1799
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:42,390
So, that's concept one.

1800
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,200
This kind of gives you an aerial view so

1801
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,560
that you

1802
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,120
you know what it would look like.

1803
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:51,640
They're just kind of fun when you can

1804
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,440
see a

1805
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,200
a concept there.

1806
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,480
Adding in cul-de-sacs.

1807
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,310
Okay?

1808
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:01,480
Okay.

1809
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:06,000
Then Washington Road from 5th to 1st.

1810
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,360
Same thing.

1811
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,920
Just at Allison we'd be looking at

1812
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,200
putting in a cul-de-sac.

1813
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,880
And then from

1814
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,800
Southeast 3rd north to 1st Street, so

1815
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,200
that's the bottom picture here.

1816
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,960
Uh we'd be adding in that protected

1817
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,040
left-hand turn and still necking down to

1818
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,400
only one lane in each direction with

1819
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:33,670
that protected turn.

1820
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,520
And in this area, the width would

1821
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,240
support those three lanes plus keeping

1822
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,720
some parking along the side.

1823
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,560
We wouldn't show the elimination where

1824
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,160
there is parking today. I believe you'd

1825
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,200
be able to keep it. But if this was

1826
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,040
selected, we would definitely look at

1827
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,680
that in more detail.

1828
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,150
Okay.

1829
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,120
All right. That's all of this Those were

1830
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,640
the city concepts. We can quickly will

1831
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,320
will talk to you about the ones that we

1832
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,280
are proposing for in the county to be

1833
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,440
considered. And these will be available

1834
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,080
for people to look at at the open houses

1835
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,720
because the open houses are open to

1836
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,800
everybody. Um so, the first one um is at

1837
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,800
Hesston and Hoover Road.

1838
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,840
So, Hesston Road, you know, that's old

1839
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,760
81 that goes out of Newton up to

1840
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,280
Hesston. And there are multiple

1841
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,640
intersections that have skewed

1842
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,560
crossings. Um

1843
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,920
And they are not just crossing Hesston

1844
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,360
Road, but they're also crossing the

1845
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:29,840
railroad that's on the north.

1846
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,390
>> Like not at a 90°.

1847
01:04:31,390 --> 01:04:31,400
» Like not at a 90°.

1848
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,230
>> Right. If they're skewed, they're not at

1849
01:04:33,230 --> 01:04:33,240
» Right. If they're skewed, they're not at

1850
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,000
a 90°, which is the preferred method for

1851
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,400
traffic and transportation safety so

1852
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,080
that you can see

1853
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,160
um so that you have good sight distance.

1854
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,600
And

1855
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,160
so if I'm going to if I'm going to

1856
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,960
rebutt this and say, "Well, why would we

1857
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,360
spend the money to do this?

1858
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,480
Why don't people just pull up here to

1859
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,400
this intersection and square their

1860
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,720
vehicle?" Well,

1861
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,160
why don't people just drive the speed

1862
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,040
limit? Why don't people do all kinds of

1863
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,640
things? But we implement

1864
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,760
traffic safety measures

1865
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,680
so that we are helping uh to address

1866
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,120
those conflicts that occur on the

1867
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,000
transportation systems. And so there

1868
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,480
would be uh some right-of-way that have

1869
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,840
to be uh purchased. And this application

1870
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,960
at Hesston Road, there are multiple

1871
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,880
crossings that could this could be

1872
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,160
addressed um on Hesston Road at all of

1873
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,400
those crossroads

1874
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,360
to square it up, if you will.

1875
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,790
Okay?

1876
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:38,000
Then, the next one is at um it's down by

1877
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,680
Sedgwick. This is Ridge Road and 84th

1878
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,720
Street. And if you've been on Ridge

1879
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,040
Road, you'll recall it, I'm sure. Um

1880
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,480
where you're coming up Ridge Road and

1881
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,440
then you do There's you do an immediate

1882
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,120
um

1883
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,520
right turn, a 90° turn, and then a

1884
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,200
another one back the other direction.

1885
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,920
There's accidents that occur in this

1886
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,960
area frequently. Um and that's what

1887
01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:02,080
popped it up, plus people commented

1888
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,800
about this one in our community

1889
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,440
engagement. And so, concept one for this

1890
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,200
location, it's the full bore. Look at it

1891
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,320
and straighten out the roadway. So,

1892
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,000
there would be um right-of-way

1893
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,920
acquisition, and then uh the road as it

1894
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,080
sits today for those that access and

1895
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,160
live along there, this would come in

1896
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,360
then at a 90

1897
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,400
to the new Ridge Road, so that we don't

1898
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,800
create another problem, right?

1899
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:28,680
Um

1900
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:29,760
and

1901
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,720
stop signs here at this intersection.

1902
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:37,320
And that takes care of those oddball

1903
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,400
90° turns.

1904
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,880
Now, there's another option.

1905
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,600
Concept design two. This doesn't This

1906
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,400
doesn't straighten it all out, but this

1907
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:52,000
puts in um this puts in signage. It's um

1908
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,160
it really improves

1909
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,160
the signage at this location. It is

1910
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,000
called enhanced signage, and we have a

1911
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,160
bunch of these chevrons that So, these

1912
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,240
little arrowy-looking signs that would

1913
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,320
have LED lights on them.

1914
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:05,880
And when you light that stuff up at

1915
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,560
night, and we put in a bunch more

1916
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,720
signage that helps it be more visible to

1917
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,640
the driving public. Um just trying to

1918
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,000
light up this area so that people don't

1919
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,960
miss it at night, cuz a lot of times

1920
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,800
they happen at nighttime.

1921
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,400
And so this would be concept design,

1922
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,600
too.

1923
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,160
And we would have people comment on

1924
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,680
these and the different elements of

1925
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:27,240
um

1926
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,440
options at the

1927
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,520
community engagement.

1928
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,960
Questions on those?

1929
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,320
Okay.

1930
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:37,640
All right. Kristen?

1931
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,390
>> Okay. We'll wrap us up here with the

1932
01:07:39,390 --> 01:07:39,400
» Okay. We'll wrap us up here with the

1933
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,760
next steps. So, like Suzanne had

1934
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,880
mentioned, um we do have several

1935
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,840
engagement opportunities coming up.

1936
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,160
We've got on the slide here, and I also

1937
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,560
brought up a few flyers.

1938
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,400
Um if you're interested, so you can see

1939
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,640
we're having one with the

1940
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,120
the list of the stakeholders, so like

1941
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,560
that the stakeholder groups we had

1942
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,200
originally. So, we're having one just

1943
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,160
for them uh on the 20th, and then we,

1944
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,440
like Suzanne mentioned, we're having a

1945
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:05,720
separate meeting with the Connect

1946
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,000
Downtown group, uh just with that group,

1947
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,920
uh with the downtown business owners on

1948
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,520
the 27th. And then we've got some open

1949
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,120
houses, um I guess that same week,

1950
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,600
taking place uh across really here

1951
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,160
within the city of Newton at the Rec

1952
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,240
Center, uh the Harvey County Courthouse,

1953
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,279
and the at the library. So, those are

1954
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:29,200
coming up. Um we will have some um

1955
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,200
like I mentioned that design charrette,

1956
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,160
where you can kind of practice,

1957
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,040
you know, trying to fit different things

1958
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,440
in a set volume. That's just kind of a

1959
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:38,839
fun thing and sort of a learning

1960
01:08:38,839 --> 01:08:41,400
opportunity that, you know, we we can't

1961
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,000
have everything, that there there are

1962
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,720
constraints. And so we'll see some

1963
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,240
property lines on there, and um so just

1964
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,080
an opportunity for people to sort of

1965
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,440
experience trying to do this with

1966
01:08:51,440 --> 01:08:53,400
constraints. Um then we'll have some

1967
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,799
information about uh all these concepts,

1968
01:08:55,799 --> 01:08:57,920
as well as some of the information about

1969
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,440
what we've learned previously, and and a

1970
01:09:00,440 --> 01:09:02,799
way to kind of confirm we we've heard

1971
01:09:02,799 --> 01:09:04,839
we've heard correctly of some of the

1972
01:09:04,839 --> 01:09:06,640
main themes coming out of that that

1973
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,359
first session or that first engagement.

1974
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:11,759
Uh and then just really wanted to share

1975
01:09:11,759 --> 01:09:14,200
these next steps. Um

1976
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,920
you know, we are in the study phase,

1977
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,759
this very very first step where we're

1978
01:09:18,759 --> 01:09:20,560
kind of getting ideas, we're talking

1979
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,240
about what are the problems, talking

1980
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,759
about some initial concepts. And

1981
01:09:25,759 --> 01:09:28,080
so, you know, we expect that to wrap up

1982
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,080
this this initiative to wrap up early

1983
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,120
next year. Um and then you can see

1984
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:33,880
there's sort of two paths. So, one would

1985
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:34,880
be

1986
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,480
that top path is going through this

1987
01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:38,680
capital grant application. That's really

1988
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,359
been the goal for this project all

1989
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:42,600
along, the goal from this original grant

1990
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,440
application from three or four years ago

1991
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:47,080
was to be able to set the city and the

1992
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,480
county up should they choose to to apply

1993
01:09:49,480 --> 01:09:51,480
for a capital grant through this Safe

1994
01:09:51,480 --> 01:09:53,920
Streets for All program. Uh so, that

1995
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,840
application would likely come open in

1996
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,200
the spring. Um and then probably be

1997
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,000
another year uh to have engineering and

1998
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,520
then probably another year plus for

1999
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,080
construction. So, we're this is a long

2000
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,560
timeline. So, just want to reassure

2001
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,320
everyone this nothing's going to happen

2002
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:10,520
tomorrow.

2003
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,600
Um and then also kind of that second

2004
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,440
tier is to be able to go through the the

2005
01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:16,200
city's budget process and should the

2006
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:17,840
city decide to implement some of these

2007
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,720
countermeasures or some of the low-cost

2008
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:20,840
things,

2009
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,400
that that would be another avenue for

2010
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,710
for this to move forward.

2011
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,520
That's it. Uh we are happy to answer any

2012
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:31,760
questions. I know we've talked through

2013
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,880
some in between in in during the

2014
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,280
presentation, but happy to answer any

2015
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:37,320
that you might have.

2016
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,630
>> So, tell us how that grant application

2017
01:10:39,630 --> 01:10:39,640
» So, tell us how that grant application

2018
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:40,880
works.

2019
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,000
After all the studies are done and maybe

2020
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,640
picking out some of the concepts to

2021
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,480
pursue and putting a price on them and

2022
01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:49,520
all that. Then

2023
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,080
then do you go to the federal government

2024
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,040
and say, "Okay, this is going to cost,

2025
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,240
let's just say $7 million." And And is

2026
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,120
it a is it a 90/10 split? Is it an 80-20

2027
01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:59,160
split? What

2028
01:10:59,160 --> 01:10:59,750
>> Good question.

2029
01:10:59,750 --> 01:10:59,760
» Good question.

2030
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:00,390
>> look like?

2031
01:11:00,390 --> 01:11:00,400
» look like?

2032
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,310
>> It's an 80-20 split. So, it's um that's

2033
01:11:03,310 --> 01:11:03,320
» It's an 80-20 split. So, it's um that's

2034
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:04,800
pretty common with federal grants. Here

2035
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,720
in Kansas, we're very fortunate because

2036
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,440
the state has allocated uh some of their

2037
01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:12,400
ARPA money. Uh well, I think they

2038
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:13,560
switched out their ARPA money and

2039
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,000
anyways made a pot of money available

2040
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,440
they call Build Kansas. And they will

2041
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,280
offer to

2042
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,680
provide 15%

2043
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,080
of that 20% match requirement. Uh and

2044
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,040
so, that's a really great opportunity. I

2045
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,120
think we're the only state in the whole

2046
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,040
country that that has that available.

2047
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:31,840
Otherwise, you know, the individual city

2048
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:32,960
would have to come up with the whole

2049
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:33,640
20%.

2050
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,630
>> that means we'd be responsible for the

2051
01:11:35,630 --> 01:11:35,640
» that means we'd be responsible for the

2052
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:36,600
5%.

2053
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:37,030
>> Correct.

2054
01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:37,040
» Correct.

2055
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,310
>> Whatever that Yeah.

2056
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:38,320
» Whatever that Yeah.

2057
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,390
>> Uh and I think that

2058
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:40,400
» Uh and I think that

2059
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,720
not just the [clears throat]

2060
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,640
SS4A type funds could you utilize your

2061
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:46,840
plan.

2062
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,680
Um there's other grants that are

2063
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,640
available that you could say, "Hey,

2064
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,560
look, we've had" cuz this is this is an

2065
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,800
engineering study, if you will. And you

2066
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,560
can say, "Hey, this is what this study

2067
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,240
came up with." And not just that grant

2068
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:00,840
application, but then the city could

2069
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,360
look at other other grants that might be

2070
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,480
available for some of the the pieces of

2071
01:12:05,480 --> 01:12:08,080
the project as well.

2072
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,120
And those those matches may be

2073
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:11,280
different.

2074
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:16,990
>> Mhm.

2075
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:23,390
» Any other questions?

2076
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:24,560
» Do

2077
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,160
And I thought

2078
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,120
I may be confusing something. I thought

2079
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:29,920
there was also

2080
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,720
an idea of

2081
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,840
SS4A and traffic signals. Is that not a

2082
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,040
Is that something separate?

2083
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:37,910
>> Depending on Main Street.

2084
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:37,920
» Depending on Main Street.

2085
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,030
>> No, to depending on the project that we

2086
01:12:40,030 --> 01:12:40,040
» No, to depending on the project that we

2087
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,240
did, we could uh look at doing that.

2088
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:43,110
>> Okay.

2089
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:43,120
» Okay.

2090
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,950
>> That's one thing I did neglect to

2091
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:44,960
» That's one thing I did neglect to

2092
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,160
mention in those concepts. So, those

2093
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,040
Main Street concepts

2094
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:49,990
>> It would would include some of the

2095
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:50,000
» It would would include some of the

2096
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,550
>> Um we would suggest

2097
01:12:52,550 --> 01:12:52,560
» Um we would suggest

2098
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,640
if you only chose the elements of the

2099
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,680
bulb outs,

2100
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,920
we would request funding for additional

2101
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:00,880
signals.

2102
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:01,350
>> Okay.

2103
01:13:01,350 --> 01:13:01,360
» Okay.

2104
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,870
>> It might not qualify for just bulb outs,

2105
01:13:03,870 --> 01:13:03,880
» It might not qualify for just bulb outs,

2106
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,360
but if you did some of the others, it

2107
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,080
definitely would because you have to

2108
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,560
change up your protected laps and

2109
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,320
everything. Um

2110
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,240
but I think we could probably justify

2111
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,760
that on any of those. So, along with

2112
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,200
those physical

2113
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:18,470
>> Yeah.

2114
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:18,480
» Yeah.

2115
01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:19,390
>> um

2116
01:13:19,390 --> 01:13:19,400
» um

2117
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,240
things on the roadway itself, we would

2118
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,120
be looking at signals as a part of that.

2119
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:29,550
>> Okay.

2120
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,240
So, then is it that

2121
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,880
after going through

2122
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:35,680
all the next sessions with the public

2123
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,360
and

2124
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,360
is it that whatever that comes back to

2125
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,560
are the ones that you're going to pursue

2126
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:44,760
to get

2127
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,600
put the put all the costs together to

2128
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,040
what that's going to cost? In other

2129
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,680
words, not every one of these ideas is

2130
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,600
going to come with somebody putting a

2131
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:53,440
price tag on it.

2132
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:54,270
>> Right.

2133
01:13:54,270 --> 01:13:54,280
» Right.

2134
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,550
>> Only the ones that

2135
01:13:56,550 --> 01:13:56,560
» Only the ones that

2136
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,840
this whole community decides might be

2137
01:13:58,840 --> 01:13:59,520
feasible.

2138
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,190
>> Yeah, well, we will include cost

2139
01:14:01,190 --> 01:14:01,200
» Yeah, well, we will include cost

2140
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,040
estimates, at least planning level cost

2141
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,080
estimates for these five concepts. So,

2142
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,400
whatever the five end up being, I mean,

2143
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,240
we've got our five locations pretty much

2144
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,080
locked down, but the option within each

2145
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,240
five locations is not. So, that's kind

2146
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,000
of the purpose of this next round is

2147
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,240
we'll kind of hear from the public, take

2148
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,280
it for kind of final vetting with the

2149
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,040
with the city and the the staff team,

2150
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,840
um and then bring it back for final

2151
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,160
adoption. But, all whatever those five

2152
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,800
final concepts will be, we'll have

2153
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,440
planning level cost estimates. And then,

2154
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:35,480
of course, as it moves forward, those

2155
01:14:35,480 --> 01:14:37,280
will continue to be refined as more

2156
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:43,750
information is known.

2157
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:44,720
» Awesome.

2158
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,360
Okay. Any other questions?

2159
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:46,950
>> Thanks.

2160
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:46,960
» Thanks.

2161
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,110
>> Okay. I guess probably

2162
01:14:48,110 --> 01:14:48,120
» Okay. I guess probably

2163
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,710
>> The only last thing is we'll be back

2164
01:14:49,710 --> 01:14:49,720
» The only last thing is we'll be back

2165
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,280
maybe later

2166
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,560
later this year with uh a draft plan. Is

2167
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:55,200
that

2168
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,990
>> Yeah, you will need to adopt a plan. So,

2169
01:14:58,990 --> 01:14:59,000
» Yeah, you will need to adopt a plan. So,

2170
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,920
a plan will be brought to you by staff

2171
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,200
for you to adopt that then gets turned

2172
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,960
in as the final.

2173
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,360
And it will have concepts in it.

2174
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:12,830
>> And can no action be a plan selected?

2175
01:15:12,830 --> 01:15:12,840
» And can no action be a plan selected?

2176
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,430
>> What do you mean no action? Like not

2177
01:15:14,430 --> 01:15:14,440
» What do you mean no action? Like not

2178
01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:17,160
adopting it or not having concepts or

2179
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,190
>> Not adopting. Say we choose not to do

2180
01:15:20,190 --> 01:15:20,200
» Not adopting. Say we choose not to do

2181
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,800
anything in that area.

2182
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:23,190
>> Of the

2183
01:15:23,190 --> 01:15:23,200
» Of the

2184
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,390
>> We're not obligated to take up any of

2185
01:15:25,390 --> 01:15:25,400
» We're not obligated to take up any of

2186
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:26,360
the plans.

2187
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,430
>> Correct. No, you're approving a plan,

2188
01:15:28,430 --> 01:15:28,440
» Correct. No, you're approving a plan,

2189
01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:30,520
not a construction project. Correct.

2190
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:31,600
Yeah.

2191
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,200
Correct.

2192
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,430
>> So, it's more of receiving a plan more

2193
01:15:36,430 --> 01:15:36,440
» So, it's more of receiving a plan more

2194
01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:38,720
so than than actually approving for

2195
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:39,440
action.

2196
01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:41,190
>> They want them to approve it. That's

2197
01:15:41,190 --> 01:15:41,200
» They want them to approve it. That's

2198
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,720
That's my understanding from the grant

2199
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,280
dollars. They want you to This is our

2200
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:46,800
our transportation plan, but you don't

2201
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,440
have to say in it what year you're going

2202
01:15:48,440 --> 01:15:50,520
to accomplish these things.

2203
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,440
Um you're going to work towards things.

2204
01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:55,360
And

2205
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,080
I think that's simple enough to do.

2206
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,480
Especially because I think in your minds

2207
01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:02,200
you're thinking about all these

2208
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,120
capital things. There's going to be

2209
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,320
countermeasures throughout. Um you know,

2210
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:08,360
if

2211
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:09,080
I would

2212
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,510
>> We We could go benign and just adopt all

2213
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:11,520
» We We could go benign and just adopt all

2214
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,240
the countermeasures as part of our plan

2215
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,000
with nothing that has a capital

2216
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,710
>> Yeah. to it. But then you wouldn't need

2217
01:16:16,710 --> 01:16:16,720
» Yeah. to it. But then you wouldn't need

2218
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,640
to apply for a grant. So, yeah. But

2219
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,350
>> But we would be But we would be

2220
01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:21,360
» But we would be But we would be

2221
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,000
fulfilling the obligation of the grant

2222
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:25,640
that we received to have the study done.

2223
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,750
>> Yes, absolutely.

2224
01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:27,760
» Yes, absolutely.

2225
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,800
I don't know why somebody why you and

2226
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,000
the county wouldn't approve

2227
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,000
in your plan one of the things that you

2228
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,560
want to do moving forward is to promote

2229
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:38,800
use of seatbelts.

2230
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:39,430
>> Right.

2231
01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:39,440
» Right.

2232
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:42,150
>> And how much that decreases uh

2233
01:16:42,150 --> 01:16:42,160
» And how much that decreases uh

2234
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,560
fatalities and severe accidents. I mean,

2235
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,480
just putting out some uh

2236
01:16:47,480 --> 01:16:49,280
you know, public information about that.

2237
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,520
That would be something that should be

2238
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:51,320
in your plan.

2239
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,190
>> Mhm.

2240
01:16:53,190 --> 01:16:53,200
» Mhm.

2241
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:53,840
Cool.

2242
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:54,310
>> Okay.

2243
01:16:54,310 --> 01:16:54,320
» Okay.

2244
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,000
>> All right. Thank you.