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we'll now bring the August 7th 2024 city

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council uh meeting to order uh call upon

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the City attorney is there any

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reportable action no reportable action

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Mr Mayor thank you

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sir we'll now have the Pledge of

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Allegiance led by council member Berwin

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Hannah ready to

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begin Al to the of the United States of

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America to the for it stands

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andice we'll now have the invocation by

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associate pastor Lazaro Santiago Beacon

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Hill Assembly of God good evening sir I

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don't think we've met before

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welcome peaceful and quiet lives in all

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godliness and Holiness this is good and

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pleases God our savior Heavenly Father

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we thank you for our city thank you for

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our elected and appointed officials the

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businesses the churches the families and

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the individuals that make our city the

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great place that it is I pray for this

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council meeting tonight give the council

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members wisdom and guidance as they

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deliberate on the items before them may

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every decision be righteous in your

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sight for our benefit and For Your Glory

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Almighty one I thank you for this

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meeting today Lord Lord there is an

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agenda and we ask that your Holy Spirit

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lead and direct all discussions that

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take place during this council meeting I

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pray that you will use the skills and

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abilities within each of our council

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members and participating citizens to

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accomplish the task set before us help

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us to remain positive in all decisions

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made and to maintain peace and Good Will

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towards each other God bless our great

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city of Norco in the name of the father

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and of the son and of the holy spirit

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amen thank you Mr sanago

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I'm going to bring up Joe holspa

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Joe here tonight there you

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go all

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right so I'm president of nor horse week

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uh we wanted to uh and thank you for

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giving us the opportunity uh to present

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some checks ceremonial checks to some of

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our larger donations we were fortunate

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enough to be able to contribute to this

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year uh for those of you don't know

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Norco horse week is a nonprofit

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organization we're run by volunteers

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strictly volunteers uh and everything

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that excuse me that we make and don't

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Reserve back to run our event for the

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next year we donate back out to uh local

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city organizations and uh some of the

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city uh departments itself uh we could

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not do this event without the help of

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the city and the city council and uh

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most importantly our

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volunteers so I won't take up too much

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your time uh but if I could have up uh

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Melvin Sparks please uh he'll be

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accepting on behalf of animal control

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how you

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doing good

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good so we were able to donate $10,000

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to the animal shelter and uh $4,000 to

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nart you get both

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thank you so

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much thank you all right next can I

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please have the representative for Norco

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seniors and

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pets so would you like to say a little

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bit about your

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organization what you guys do Norco

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seniors and pets has been around Norco

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since 19 1989 and we help low-income

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seniors here in town we um help them

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with food we help them with uh pet

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expenses we U get donations of dog food

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and just try to help them

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out so as you can see a very worthwhile

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organization so we always like to give

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what we can uh so we're proud to be able

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to donate uh believe

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10,000 to the Norco seniors and pets

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Here's the the real

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check thank thank you very

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much thank you thank you for all you

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do all right if we could have please a

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representative for the senior center

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it's uh Alejandra Gonzalez and Cindy

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Garcia so uh senior Center's always been

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an important Organization for uh uh a

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horse week right uh everybody gets old

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it's nice to give somewhere for

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everybody to go and enjoy so uh we were

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lucky enough to be able to donate

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$110,000 to the senior center this year

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thank you thank

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you uh and last but not least uh we have

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FFA so FFA every year uh I've been a

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part of horse week now uh for the better

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part of 20 years and for as long as I've

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been around I've known they've helped

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they've been a huge help and they

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increase every year so we're happy to be

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able to donate $10,000 to the FFA this

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year thank you

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uh so that's all I have for this year we

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did donate uh to several other

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organizations that helped us but I don't

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want to take up your whole night uh

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thank you for allowing us to present

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those and I look forward to next year

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thank you Joe appreciate

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it so now we're going to call upon

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director Hamilton city of Norco mounting

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block pilot project

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good evening city council so tonight I

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have a presentation on the horse

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mounting block pilot project in our city

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parks you work

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good thank thank

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you this year the city has aligned with

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the community-based initiative Norco

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Mount up Mission

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2024 this initiative advocates for

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placing safe mounting Platforms in local

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parks and business

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centers Maria pase and Kim Adams have

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spearheaded this initiative and while

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they are working on having donated

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mounting blocks installed at private

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businesses they have asked the city to

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add these amenities to our public parks

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installing mounting blocks in areas

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where Riders normally Dismount and mount

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can increase usage of noros trails and

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Parks uh many riders have difficulty

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getting on and off a horse and will

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search out large rocks stumps picnic

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tables and anything to give them

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themselves a boost um which sometimes

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can be unstable or slippery since this

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is H down USA is only fitting that we

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advocate for our Riders and the city has

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allocated funding for this project as

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part of fiscal year 2425

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for this pilot project $220,000 has been

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allocated to install ADA Compliant horse

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mounting blocks um with this being a

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pilot project uh we are going to be

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installing four ramps this year and

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we'll monitor the usage of those ramps

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along with maintenance

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factors depending on the pilot Project's

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outcomes uh the city May program

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additional funding for other parks and

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facilities in future years each ramp

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will cost about $5,000 and will be

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installed by City Crews it is important

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to note that this pilot project was

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brought to the parks and rec Commission

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on June 10th for review and discussion

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staff received positive feedback from

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the commission and has been working with

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handy ramp uh on an amenity that would

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also be Ada

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accessible the pilot project locations

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include coron staging area Pacer Park

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Park placement of these mounting blocks

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would sit adjacent to any holding pen or

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Arena and with that I have any if you

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have any questions but I would also like

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to bring up Maria and Kim just to say

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hello to the council and talk about an

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exciting uh reveal that they have this

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weekend at grocery

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allet thank you I'm Kim unfortunately

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I'm so sorry Maria got help helping

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somebody in distress so you got Kimmer G

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right here I'm going to bottle you I've

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decided I'm going to bottle that energy

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and sell it amen thank you bless by holy

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SP and Jesus thank you oh gosh you know

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what it all started with a with a dream

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um it's a on a saddle talk Marie and I

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one day in December were taking a ride

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and she's got some handicap disabilities

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and she rides a 17 hand thorough bread

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and whenever she gets on her horse at

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home she uses her Mount to go on safely

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and she always prays that nothing

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happens when she has to get off her

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horse and find something like she was

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saying which isn't safe and so

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especially we are riding by the parks

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and she's like oh my gosh sometimes I

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got to go potty you know but I can't get

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back on my horse so we got talking and I

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thought you know I bet you if it's not

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her you know um there's got to be more

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people like you out there so we got off

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our ride and ran in in the house and I

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grabbed my husband Peter beos and right

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over there and I said you got to make a

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video we're gonna get this out on

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Facebook and we're gonna hashtag Kevin

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bash and that's how it started many

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times don't give up on your dream big

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time Big Time so I am just honored Who

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would know that this little idea that we

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had would be here today and and it

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branched off you know to the to the

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private sector as people are paying for

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these beautiful wood Mount UPS our first

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one was set up in in July at Mavericks

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we're Happ we're having our second one

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this installation this Saturday at

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grocery outlet and um gosh and just the

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backup and just so many people on

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Facebook just like we love that idea we

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want more can you put one here can you

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put one there and just like oh it just

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so amazing I'm just honored to that you

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know God put that inspiration in our

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minds and we just didn't give up and uh

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hashtag you so so anyways thank you so

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much and I hope everybody can make it

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out Saturday 10: a.m. Grocery Outlet um

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and then we're moving up to uh um Boot

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Barn and just all the way up Sixth

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Street and then ster Brothers on coron

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and river and there she is right

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here she made it but anyways but thank

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you so so much and we'll have a m up

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everywhere in nor thank you thank you

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very much and uh

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Amanda where' Amanda go Amanda thank you

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and your staff for making this happen

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this is really uh it's one of those

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unique Norco winds so thank you Mayer

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yes I got a question yep the ramps are

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they made out of aluminum yes they are

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are they going to be slip proof on the

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they're made specifically for um this

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type of application in parks and in

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Trails um yeah they will have a they

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will have a grit to them on the ramp

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area okay thank you any other

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questions congratulations so next uh

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going to call upon Isabelle heinrikson

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and Jamie Shin for the read to ride

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program how are you young lady I haven't

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seen you in a long time nice to see you

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do you know the lady at the end no not

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at all

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so for those of you that don't know my

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name is Izzy oh Isabelle Hendrickson but

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I do go by Izzy um when I joined so I

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kind of had this idea of joining the

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Norco Fair committee um and I thought

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what new ideas can I bring to the Norco

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Fair committee I knew other fairs that

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did this reading program um and from

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there we I brought it up to the naral

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fair committee so far we have one

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sponsor thank you

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Woody this is our pilot year um for this

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program so basically the the idea is the

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kids read um they write a summary and

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they get ride tickets in return um now

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I'll go ahead and hand it over to Jamie

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so she can explain more detail on

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that good evening everyone my name is

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Jamin I'm the branch manager for the

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Eastville and norgo libraries on behalf

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of the library we are very thankful for

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this opportunity to give you all a brief

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overview on the online platform

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beanstack which R toite is held on the

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Riverside County library system is

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currently using oops sorry currently do

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me a favor can you talk right into them

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it's there you go gotcha the Riverside

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County library system is currently using

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bean stack to hold multiple reading

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challenges throughout the year including

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the current collaboration between the

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Norco library and the Norco Fair called

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read to write beanstack is an online

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program where our library patrons are

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able to create accounts to participate

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in the reading challenges our system has

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published our patrons also known as

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readers participate in these challenges

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by logging the reading activity and

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completing tasks either through the

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beanstack app or the website

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more specifically our readers interact

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with beanstack by being able to choose

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which reading challenges they'd like to

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register for readers are in points and

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badges by completing the required

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activities determined by the associated

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challenges these activities can include

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submitting a book summary um and logging

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their total minutes of reading bean

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stack tracks the reader progress and

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allows Library staff to issue Awards

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corresponding to their

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participation the noral fair R toide

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program like isad explained is our first

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Branch specific Challenge on beanstack

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RTO ride will be active in until August

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16th and is available to our nro patrons

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R toide encourages readers from

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preschool to 6th grade to Ride book

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summaries in exchange for ride tickets

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and a free shaved ice from Woody shaved

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ice to earn ride tickets each book

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summary will earn them an increasing

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number of Free Ride tickets for example

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readers that submit one book summary

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will earn two tickets two will earn

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three and so on until um they' submitted

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up to eight summaries which is rewarded

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by 10 ride tickets a free shaved ice

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kind of follows the same rule where

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they'll uh shave the shaved ice will

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increase in size depending on the book

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summaries they submitted so one to two

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will earn a small one and the jumbo free

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shaved ice is the um range between seven

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to eight book summaries um so yeah

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readers are then able to pick up their

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ride tickets and free shaped ice at the

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noral fair by using their first and last

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name at a designated R to ride check-in

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area currently we have a total of 52

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participants and a total of 120 badges

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earned um 55 book summaries have been

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submitted and 13 participants have

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completed all their activities

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uh my reports share that the age groups

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with the most participants are between 7

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to 8 years old and the majority of our

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patrons are noral patrons but local

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participants have joined the Challenge

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from nearby branches like Eastville and

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home gardens but they're all within the

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same county

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system the future of beanstack is full

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of upcoming CH reading challenges and

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programs the Riverside County library

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system has reading challenges available

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on beanstack year round for patrons for

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all ages to participate in we welcome

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any future collaborations as we work to

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serve our GR community at the noral

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library thank you do we have any

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questions this is wonderful this is

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really wonderful I I is there some way

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we can get this out to

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uh I I think we need to put this on our

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website and maybe put it on our Norco

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app and that kind of thing this is

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wonderful it's nice to see you're doing

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great things still I remember you when

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you were

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[Laughter]

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little any questions

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comments well thank

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you yeah I saw

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yeah

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cely coming out of our pocket yeah go

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great thank

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you all right next up

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uh we have one other thing that we need

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to do um is the lieutenant

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here can you come on up

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here I'm gonna rub

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it for the first two years and Newton

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couldn't stand it so he brought a ringer

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this year and I would have won so with

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great

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reluctance I have to give you the cow

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throwing contest award but no it

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was a ringer an ex- minor leager I know

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and tell him we used to want him back in

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Norco but not

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anymore

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anyway and

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stands for cops and we want you to help

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proud we are even when you throw

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sh I'm gonna get so much trouble from my

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wife

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Lieutenant if if you would tell Andy

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that c does not stand for cops it stands

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for Cubs oh as at his

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request Riverside County deputies are

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not losers it's

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cops all right moving

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on uh we'll have city council reports on

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Regional boards councilman grun

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Meer uh nothing to report thank you Mr

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Mayor councilwoman Alman yes I on July

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18th um I attended the north northwest

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mosquito and vector Control District

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Board of Trustees meeting and just a

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couple points out of that meeting um in

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terms of West Nile um the district only

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reports when mosquitoes are found that

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have West Nile in our County any reports

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of humans um who have been infected

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would come from the county department of

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health um and so you can check uh their

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website they have a social media and an

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Instagram um this year in the state I

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think there's only been two cases and

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they did just find the a first pool that

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had West Nile in our County um and then

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that they'll base their treatment plans

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based on that uh and then the second is

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that we have hired a new general Council

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and so we will begin working on our

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strategic plan one of which is to

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continue uh to be proactive and protect

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the health of the public when it comes

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to mosquitoes and Vector born

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diseases council member

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Hannah yeah tonight I want to read this

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about

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uh Joe tavalon he was uh longtime member

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of just about every Transportation

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Commission that there was in the state

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of

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California in July he just celebrated

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his 101st

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birthday and up until just a few months

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before that he was as sharp as anybody

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and a pleasure to talk to him I know

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several members of his family and

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everything but uh he joined the

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California Transportation Commission in

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2002 and retired excuse me in July live

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2024 and he had over 20 years of

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transportation and over 50 years in

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construction and he helped rctc receive

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state funding for a lot of major

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projects including the wiing of the I

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215 State Route 91

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I-15 and State Route

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60 and Senator Roth is preparing a

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resolution to dedicate the 60 91215

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interchange in his name but uh I

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remember I hadn't seen him in several

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years and when we did the groundbreaking

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on

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the express lanes of the 15 freeway over

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here well he walked up and started

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talking just like we'd seen each other

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the day before he he never forgot people

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and he was quite a gentleman and it's

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sad that he's passing but it's uh a good

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deal that they're going to name that

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interchange after he m over there and

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that's all I have mayor sir

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Greg thank you mayor uh last week U head

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board meeting Chino Bas and dalter

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Authority board of directors meeting um

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I was going to do a a riveting report on

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uh the Chino Basin uh plume that we

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spend uh a lot of time working on but

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I'm going to put that off and I'm going

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to show a little video U this was an

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item we went over um at our meeting uh

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it's done by

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jcsd and then I'm going to ask our fire

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chief with your permission mayor to um

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uh speak on this but this has to do with

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a article that U I read here a little

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bit ago about helip pods and helah

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hydrants and um

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and and I'll ask the chief to touch on

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it but we've had discussions on moving

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forward with Wildlife well Wildland

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protection Chief will touch on that go

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go ahead and play that it's only two

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minutes at herua Community Services

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District we pride ourselves on being

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Regional leaders in the services we

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provide every day jcsd provides

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essential services for our community and

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our commitment to Innovation and

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Community safety is stronger than ever

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through jcsds helah hydrant project

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designed to bolster our community's fire

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response and Public Safety the helah

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hydrant is a game changer in our

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emergency response strategy and is the

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first of its kind in the Inland Empire

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region each hydrant is a 15 ft wide

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nearly 10,000g tank designed to expedite

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the water collection process for

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firefighting helicopters each hel

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hydrant is a little different this

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particular one takes about 7 minutes and

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it'll fill to the top situated

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strategically in fire prone areas these

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helah hydrant are constructed to

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integrate seamlessly with jcsds existing

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Water Systems when a fire breaks out the

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jcsd hydrant quickly fills when

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activated by an approaching firefighting

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helicopter providing a valuable water

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source that SA critical time in the

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battle against fire when a fire

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emergency erupts firefighters can rely

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on jcsds H hydrant to be ready for

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action and allows for us to get water on

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the fire's Edge as as quickly as we can

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in the summer of 20124 we celebrated a

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major Milestone with the inauguration of

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the first jcsd helah hydron in service

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located in haropa Valley's Country

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Village neighborhood helping

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firefighting efforts in the area we

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initiated a discussion with calire and

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said hey can we look at doing a project

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like this over in JCS area through

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Forward Thinking and long-term planning

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the jcsd helah hydrant project will

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install a total of four helah hydrants

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across jcsd service area in Eastvale and

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haropa Valley ensuring robust coverage

551
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,480
and protection for our region with the

552
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,440
helah hydrons jcsd is not just helping

553
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,320
fight fires we're building resilience

554
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,639
and safe guarding our community's future

555
00:31:29,639 --> 00:31:32,240
for generations to come to learn more

556
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,720
about our Innovative projects programs

557
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:46,230
and Community initiatives visit

558
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,000
jcsd.us thank you uh mayor this is

559
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,519
something I'd like to with your

560
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:55,000
permission to uh um do some further re

561
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,559
research with uh staff and calire

562
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:03,279
um this was also I believe it's um paid

563
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:06,360
through with a grant from uh Riverside

564
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,039
County flood control and and I think

565
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:11,960
something like this is very appropriate

566
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,880
um especially for our area

567
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,080
and given what's going on recently so

568
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,440
Chief would you like

569
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,480
to make a few comments briefly

570
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,950
and explain it a lot better than I

571
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,639
good evening Mr Mayor and members of the

572
00:32:31,639 --> 00:32:34,720
city council um so yeah I'd say about

573
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,279
two years ago jcsd uh approached myself

574
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:41,320
and chief VI and they were interested in

575
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,240
putting in these hydrants so what we did

576
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,120
is we teamed with them and we went out

577
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,760
to different locations within Hupa

578
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,159
Valley and Eastville so the one you saw

579
00:32:51,159 --> 00:32:53,080
here is the first of four that are going

580
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,559
in that one's off a Country Village Road

581
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:57,320
just north and their next one's going to

582
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,519
be in East down by the river bottom and

583
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:00,799
then a couple more along the river

584
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:03,200
bottom in herua Valley so um we team

585
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,760
with them we had our Pilots come out and

586
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,720
uh they they cleared the areas what's

587
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,000
safe for them and this product really is

588
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,880
safe for our pilots and that's one of

589
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,399
the main reasons we did it it's quick

590
00:33:13,399 --> 00:33:16,639
easy access they control it from the air

591
00:33:16,639 --> 00:33:19,200
to fill the uh device up to fill the

592
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,320
tank up and then they can drain it after

593
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,399
they leave and water goes back down into

594
00:33:23,399 --> 00:33:26,639
the system so it's really a great system

595
00:33:26,639 --> 00:33:28,320
um I'm an advocate for it

596
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,480
um the more the better for our Pilots

597
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,679
the safer it's going to be for them so

598
00:33:32,679 --> 00:33:35,039
if you guys have any questions I'll try

599
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:37,120
to answer them the best I

600
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,279
can any

601
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,159
questions thank you sir all

602
00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:46,240
righty Chief I appreciate it um just one

603
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,960
other comment that it's controlled by

604
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,600
the helicopter but it ties to our

605
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,120
scatter system and

606
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,679
um and I think we have some ideal

607
00:33:56,679 --> 00:33:58,399
locations

608
00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:01,679
where where this could be placed

609
00:34:01,679 --> 00:34:04,399
so with your permission mayor thank you

610
00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:07,440
yes please thanks Chief okay no worries

611
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,909
okay

612
00:34:10,919 --> 00:34:13,800
anytime uh so a couple of things um the

613
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,000
Western Regional Council of governments

614
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,240
uh a couple of issues that we talked

615
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:19,679
about first off we had a pretty

616
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,720
interesting water um presentation that

617
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:24,240
we have some water issues in Southern

618
00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:25,679
California what was very interesting to

619
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:28,040
me is that the the Western principal

620
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,599
water uh company director um I had gone

621
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:34,119
on a water tour with him up to the Delta

622
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:36,119
and at that time he did not know how

623
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:37,879
many houses we had to build in the area

624
00:34:37,879 --> 00:34:39,240
and he said oh we have plenty of water

625
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:42,079
for all the houses he's changed his tune

626
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:43,839
he now realizes that the amount of

627
00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:45,879
houses that they want us to build

628
00:34:45,879 --> 00:34:49,000
Apartments um it's a real problem and

629
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,119
the reality is they're asking us to do

630
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:52,879
we all these houses they want us to

631
00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:54,280
build we don't have enough water we

632
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,960
don't have enough all kinds of stuff so

633
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,240
one of the things that um at the end of

634
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:01,760
this meeting I'm going to talk about is

635
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,400
I know it's an impossible task but I'm

636
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,320
going to talk about um how do we truly

637
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,640
beef up our recycled water program so

638
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,520
I'll talk about that um uh Katherine and

639
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,920
I went to the Riverside City College

640
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,320
District trustees meeting I'm going to

641
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,520
um basically there was a bond um did you

642
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,800
stay for the whole thing Katherine did

643
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,640
you say to the end um they actually are

644
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,040
going to pass a bond uh it's one of the

645
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,520
few bonds that I am actually supporting

646
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,200
um we are hearing that there's going to

647
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,839
be a lot of job loss in the state of

648
00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:35,320
California in the next coming year

649
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,480
hundreds of thousand of jobs maybe we

650
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,760
have people leaving and they're saying

651
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,599
kids that are 20 years old are probably

652
00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:44,599
going to have to learn skills all

653
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:45,800
through their life they predict they'll

654
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,119
live to 100 and so junior colleges are

655
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:51,839
an incredible way to retool they're also

656
00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:54,880
an incredible way to uh get your first

657
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,520
two years in whenever I see somebody

658
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,200
from Norco college and so I'm just going

659
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,960
to Norco College say that's great that's

660
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,760
fantastic your parents going to love you

661
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,960
because it's almost free so um I am

662
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,079
going to support that particular Bond

663
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:09,359
and then finally I want to add this um

664
00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:10,839
to the council you've all been very

665
00:36:10,839 --> 00:36:14,200
supportive we've we have been trying to

666
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,640
list expand the list to include the Navy

667
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,040
base on the national register of

668
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,119
historic places and after a lot of talk

669
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:27,119
we finally spoke to an expert attorney

670
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:28,680
in

671
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,119
preservation law and I wish the heck we

672
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:34,960
talked to this woman a long time ago um

673
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,079
on February 2nd

674
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:41,160
2018 we unanimously received approval to

675
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,680
expand the national register from the

676
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,640
state historic preservation

677
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,720
commission we didn't know this till we

678
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,560
did fo requests but the Navy opposed it

679
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,119
and they submitted in October of the

680
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:55,240
same year a technical review that was

681
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:59,000
just flat wrong we didn't know about It

682
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,040
ultimately through a lot of gations we

683
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,880
didn't know until almost in fact four

684
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,720
years later that the keeper apparently

685
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,920
agreed with the Navy but she didn't

686
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,319
actually deny our petition she said I'm

687
00:37:13,319 --> 00:37:16,240
making no judgment

688
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:20,040
well they had 45 days it says

689
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,680
nominations will be included in the

690
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,800
National register within 45 days of

691
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,839
receipt by The Keeper a design unless

692
00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:27,880
the keeper disapproves a nomination an

693
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,480
appeal is filed or the owner of the

694
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,839
private property etc etc etc Navy

695
00:37:32,839 --> 00:37:35,880
actually waited 3 years to tell us

696
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,960
keeper almost four years to tell us and

697
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,640
it actually appears that if there's no

698
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,920
decision it has to be treated as if it's

699
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,640
on the national register so at the end

700
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,839
of this meeting I'm going to be asking

701
00:37:47,839 --> 00:37:50,480
that we uh along with the lcf who's

702
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,480
agreed to co-partner with us that we

703
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,920
hire this attorney and make it known

704
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,599
that this belongs on the national

705
00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:01,480
register if this is actually true we've

706
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,520
overcome politicians we've overcome

707
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,599
Navy bureaucrats we've overcome if this

708
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:11,319
is as simple as it gets I'm going to be

709
00:38:11,319 --> 00:38:12,760
really upset because I spend a lot of

710
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,800
time on this thing but 45 days is 45

711
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,040
days and the soonest that the uh the

712
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,280
Navy notified anybody

713
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,720
was eight months later so this may well

714
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:29,240
be a huge win and that's all I have so

715
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:32,200
moving on to the consent calendar uh do

716
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,640
council members have any items that need

717
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,599
to be

718
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:39,000
pulled mayor we're at public

719
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,720
comments

720
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,480
in I have

721
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,960
um

722
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,400
3K

723
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,079
3M mayor we are at the um public comment

724
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:55,359
item number two not consent calendar

725
00:38:55,359 --> 00:38:58,560
yet oh I'm sorry I I apologize yes I

726
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,440
apologize hold that thought guys I

727
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,640
apologize uh are there any public

728
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,119
comments yes there is um this is the

729
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:07,920
time on person's wishing to address the

730
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,079
presiding governmental body regarding

731
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,000
the consent calendar or matters not on

732
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,160
the agenda may be heard please limit

733
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,640
comments to 3 minutes or less the

734
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,520
governmental body shall not discuss or

735
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,400
act relative to any general public

736
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:29,349
comment my first speaker is Dylan wimple

737
00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:30,960
hi Dylan how are

738
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,800
you well

739
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,839
good good evening Council my name is

740
00:39:35,839 --> 00:39:37,480
Dylan wimple here as a resident of Norco

741
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,880
ask the city of Norco to implement an

742
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,680
organic farm friendly weed and Pest

743
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,119
Management plan organic farmers are

744
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:44,599
limited in the chemicals they can use on

745
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:46,319
or near their farms and the city's use

746
00:39:46,319 --> 00:39:47,800
of glyphosate and other similar products

747
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,400
May overspray and jeopardize their

748
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,280
Organic certification and many residents

749
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,200
have worked hard to obtain this I ask

750
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,000
the city review organic Alternatives and

751
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,440
maintenance of our trails and public

752
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,760
spaces and UTI regenerative agriculture

753
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,160
practices in weed and pest suppression

754
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,680
integrated Pest Management and ground

755
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,119
cover such as mulch can help maintain

756
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:05,680
the health of our soils and changes like

757
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,319
these protect our small plot Farmers

758
00:40:07,319 --> 00:40:08,200
eliminating the risk of

759
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,520
cross-contamination on their farmland

760
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,440
and harvests thank you for your time

761
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,280
great thank you sir our next speaker is

762
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:19,910
Sergeant

763
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,880
eof are we supposed to salute no I'm not

764
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:24,960
I'm not a

765
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,280
zero um um good good evening to the city

766
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,720
council I just wanted to um thank the

767
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:35,440
city of Narco the city council the staff

768
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,560
Amanda over there um U Lori anybody else

769
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,720
who is involved uh we got a call for our

770
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:46,760
brick table at the National Night Out um

771
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,760
when was that yesterday oh man and uh we

772
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,440
were there from 2:30 till 8:00 at night

773
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,880
and Larry how many people did we talk to

774
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,000
67 we talked to 67 people we're real

775
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,520
picky about this we always have somebody

776
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,079
that clicks the amount of uh people that

777
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:10,000
we talk to but I just wanted to thank

778
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,920
the the staff Amanda let me know about

779
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,560
this uh and we set it up almost

780
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,720
immediately and uh the staff came out

781
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,040
there and set it up for us and they took

782
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,040
it down but and these people that do

783
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,319
this get paid for it and they of course

784
00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:28,480
they should get paid for it but that's

785
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,680
not the point it's their attitude and I

786
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,599
know I've talked about this before but

787
00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:35,319
it's always their attitude they do these

788
00:41:35,319 --> 00:41:37,920
things with a smile on their face if we

789
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,079
ask them can we get another chair they

790
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:42,200
just run out and get another chair

791
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,240
they're so easy to work with and it's

792
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:49,280
like they if if they could uh do it they

793
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,920
would do it for free I mean this is how

794
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,280
how good they are um the other thing is

795
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,800
that Lori introduced me to a QR codes

796
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,440
which I have which I have on my back and

797
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,280
anybody behind me thinking about what's

798
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,599
that weirdo gotta buy a brick on his

799
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:09,960
back you you're more than welcome to

800
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,040
come up behind me and take a picture of

801
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,240
the of the QR code and thank you again

802
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,800
Lori for bringing this you created a

803
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,000
monster I'm a QR code nut uh the other

804
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,880
thing is uh that I'd like to talk about

805
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,359
is the um the fact that my wife and I or

806
00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:32,880
myself had decided that we're

807
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,520
seniors I I know really I I'm not a

808
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,839
senior so we went to the we go always go

809
00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:41,240
to the senior

810
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:44,480
breakfast uh but we started going to Tai

811
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,559
Chi and we did Tai Chi and we had again

812
00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:50,599
wonderful people over at the senior

813
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:53,040
center I know these things don't happen

814
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:57,280
by Magic and I have my the our taii and

815
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,440
instructor could you please stand Cindy

816
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,680
wonderful lady and we have a greeting

817
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,270
that we

818
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,599
do and she puts up with us I mean we we

819
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,760
forget all these things and she say oh

820
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,119
you're doing so great and we know we

821
00:43:14,119 --> 00:43:16,240
just screwed up the whole farm and

822
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:18,599
everything but they have so many things

823
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:21,319
so we went on from taiichi to chair of

824
00:43:21,319 --> 00:43:24,359
volleyball which is crazy if you stand

825
00:43:24,359 --> 00:43:27,200
up you lose a point but everybody just

826
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,280
laughs the whole time uh they have a

827
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,240
newly form formed uh chess club that

828
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:37,520
Jordan runs he's great we do that and

829
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,040
Sergeant eov I hate to interrupt you I

830
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,079
can't believe you were tamed by the taii

831
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:44,920
instructor over there but you're out of

832
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,200
time I'm out of time thank you thank you

833
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,480
sir and Alejandra would you please let

834
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,200
your staff know that you were

835
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,920
complimented by a sergeant from the

836
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,870
United States Marine Corps

837
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:04,069
our next speaker is Greg

838
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:08,079
Bowen I'll make this short and sweet um

839
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:09,800
for the norcar rodeo this year we're

840
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,839
going to try something different on

841
00:44:11,839 --> 00:44:15,359
Sunday um I have

842
00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:18,280
contacted um four different counties and

843
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,880
we're going to have law enforcement on

844
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,680
Horseback on Sunday and we're going to

845
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,880
have approximately over a 100 law

846
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,480
enforcement that actually are doing that

847
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,839
for a living uh coming to Norco and

848
00:44:30,839 --> 00:44:32,240
doing our grand

849
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:36,280
entry uh we've got sanino County Sheriff

850
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,119
sanino County Rangers sanino County PD

851
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:43,359
sanino County uh Chino

852
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:45,520
PD

853
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,720
LAPD is a I haven't got a complete

854
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:50,880
number from them yet but laso the

855
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,720
sheriff Department's coming Orange

856
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:54,160
County Sheriff Department's going

857
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,240
Anaheim Irvine Fullerton Huntington

858
00:44:57,240 --> 00:44:59,800
Beach and most of these people live in

859
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:00,559
this

860
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:03,520
town uh Riverside Chad biano is going to

861
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,800
be our Grand

862
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,040
Marshall and Corona PD and possibly uh

863
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,880
Palm Springs PD is going to be bringing

864
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,800
horses um a quick breakdown what we're

865
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:14,680
going to be

866
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,960
doing um we're gonna everybody's going

867
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,160
to check in early on Sunday they're

868
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,720
going to get saddled up get their

869
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:23,480
briefing uh then we're going to do a

870
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,280
small trail ride down Sixth Street with

871
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,280
approximately 100 horses we're gonna I

872
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,760
have Saddles sword Rider going to come

873
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,119
out and just like they do their trail

874
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:35,680
rides that's all this is going to be is

875
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,280
a trail ride and we're going to go down

876
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,839
to tamiscal turn around and get all the

877
00:45:38,839 --> 00:45:40,040
bugs out of the

878
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,960
horses then they're going to come up and

879
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,240
they're going to line up and the rodeo

880
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,800
starts at 5: so approximately 4:30

881
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,880
they're going to be lining up in the

882
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,680
back and then we'll go ahead and make a

883
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,240
uh proceed into the arena and then after

884
00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:56,280
that the national anthem the Queens show

885
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,559
the flag and all that stuff they're

886
00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:00,720
going to be dismissed but what I want to

887
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:02,720
really capture on it's the first time

888
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:05,720
this has ever been done in California uh

889
00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:07,760
we do it in Sacramento each year

890
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,200
sometimes with 70 sometimes with 100

891
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,960
it's phenomenal we ride all through

892
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,319
Sacramento um and it's you don't really

893
00:46:17,319 --> 00:46:19,200
realize how many horses are in Southern

894
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,319
California that actually do law

895
00:46:21,319 --> 00:46:23,839
enforcement on Horseback and what better

896
00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:26,599
City to promote that or even show it off

897
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:29,960
is it Norco so we're going to do that uh

898
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,760
this year at the Norco Rodeo September

899
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,960
25th the rodeo is at 5:00 if anybody

900
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,359
wants to show

901
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:38,200
up uh and that's all I got and by the

902
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,160
way Amanda day the cowboy awesome and

903
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,400
Berwin those uh mounting blocks those

904
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,319
are made for just me and

905
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:50,520
you all right thank you thank you

906
00:46:50,520 --> 00:47:00,030
sir our next speaker is JN Kiros

907
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,640
good evening sir good evening um I

908
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,680
appreciate your your warmth of how you

909
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,599
conduct these these Council meetings

910
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:09,920
they're they're uh they're a breath of

911
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,319
fresh air well thank you okay

912
00:47:13,319 --> 00:47:16,079
um I'd like to my name is John Kos and

913
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:19,240
I'm a a future resident of Norco and uh

914
00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:20,720
I want to thank you for the opportunity

915
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:23,280
to address the city council and let me

916
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,480
start by saying the city is doing so

917
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,880
much good work across the board I agree

918
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,079
100% with the pastor that Norco is a a

919
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:34,520
truly great City we love the traditional

920
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,079
American values that Norco symbolizes we

921
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:40,119
embrace the city's love of horses

922
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:43,079
Agriculture and self-reliance Norco

923
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:45,800
embodies the small town American Spirit

924
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,359
that seems lacking throughout much of

925
00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:50,599
the State uh we love this town and we

926
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:53,480
intend to call it home with that being

927
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,520
said I'm here tonight to say my peace

928
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,960
with respect to the 4030 Acacia home

929
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,720
build it's just down uh as you go north

930
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:05,520
on Hammer um right by the uh gy

931
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,000
gymnasium it's it's the new Corner House

932
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,319
it's it's gorgeous I think you'll agree

933
00:48:11,319 --> 00:48:14,280
um that it was built with love and pride

934
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,880
and attention to

935
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,839
detail uh the problem you're going to

936
00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:20,160
hear about from uh the owner Maria who's

937
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,839
going to speak after me tonight is that

938
00:48:22,839 --> 00:48:25,559
after uh building plans were approved

939
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:27,520
Corrections were given to the Builder

940
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,079
the Builder made those corrections after

941
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,200
the home was built after multiple

942
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,920
inspections including two electrical

943
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,440
inspections after the inspection card

944
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,760
was signed the city has decided to

945
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,200
change its uh enforcement of a 20 plus

946
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,400
year old building code uh to require uh

947
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,240
underground rather than above ground uh

948
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:51,079
power source obviously this is added

949
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:53,079
significant delays costs and not to

950
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:54,599
mention

951
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:56,880
heartache I think folks have the common

952
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,720
sense to know that changing the

953
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:03,280
rules at the end of the game um and to

954
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,599
change the outcome smells to high heaven

955
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:09,400
whether it's legal or not ask yourself

956
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,559
this question why now why wait till the

957
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:12,760
very end of the

958
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,720
build uh the city has asked if the city

959
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:19,040
had asked to change at the onset this

960
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,240
would have been done by

961
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:24,880
now um let me end by saying that the

962
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,160
last hour changes to the Bild would seem

963
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,440
to go against all the values that uh

964
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,000
embody this great

965
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,359
town this is the sort of mess you'd

966
00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:35,880
expect other places but not in Norco

967
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,680
respectfully I request the council's

968
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,400
attention to this matter and I

969
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,079
appreciate your leadership to help the

970
00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:43,599
city come to mutually agreed upon

971
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:46,200
solution uh sincerely thank you thank

972
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,880
you sir Alma so I'm assuming you'll

973
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,960
reach out and okay our next speaker is

974
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:59,750
Maria Fernandez

975
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,000
evening council members and

976
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,480
mayor at all um 430 AA it's a home I

977
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,200
built with a lot of love for my family

978
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,400
we're all been trying to call nor homes

979
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,160
we got three homes under construction uh

980
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,520
my granddaughter starts school at

981
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,520
turning point on uh Norco Street on the

982
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,799
12th but uh now we we're hoping to

983
00:50:21,799 --> 00:50:24,079
finish our home by um my daughter's home

984
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:27,599
by the by July but that didn't happen um

985
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:30,599
my concern is and I'm upset about it

986
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:32,079
because I feel like if this would have

987
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:34,480
been given to me in the very beginning

988
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,960
of course there was no question about if

989
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,599
it's underground requirements that's

990
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:40,400
underground requirement from Power if

991
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,240
we're not here to not do what we're

992
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:44,839
supposed to do but for God's sake you

993
00:50:44,839 --> 00:50:46,839
know we got a panel that is going put in

994
00:50:46,839 --> 00:50:48,839
the north side of the property it looks

995
00:50:48,839 --> 00:50:50,520
like we don't even know what it's going

996
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,240
to involved yet because we were just

997
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:56,280
told on the 25th of July that um oh it

998
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,559
looks like we you guys did not bring the

999
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:01,359
power underground Our rough electrical

1000
00:51:01,359 --> 00:51:05,000
was inspected on December uh last year

1001
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,920
our service panel was insed on July

1002
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,280
1st and after the service panel passed

1003
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,960
obviously the next step is we continue

1004
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,280
calling so they can release this to the

1005
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,359
power company so then Edison can power

1006
00:51:17,359 --> 00:51:21,400
up so we can test fire sprinklers

1007
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:26,079
um the rest of stuff um air conditioning

1008
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:28,079
so on so we're looking for a final

1009
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:30,960
towards the mid July and July so we can

1010
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,559
kind of make that move and now we're all

1011
00:51:33,559 --> 00:51:35,599
stuck over here kind of crying and being

1012
00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:37,319
upset and talking to different people at

1013
00:51:37,319 --> 00:51:40,280
planning I honestly feel like um it's

1014
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,640
unfortunate that the planning department

1015
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,319
failed to notify it as even through the

1016
00:51:45,319 --> 00:51:48,200
progress of it would have been framing

1017
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,200
okay but I mean when they passed these

1018
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,720
panels This individuals saw that the

1019
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:56,720
electrical was feed through the overhead

1020
00:51:56,720 --> 00:51:58,200
driving to Norco I see a lot of

1021
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,640
properties that are newer near build I

1022
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,119
still see a lot of overhead and I'm not

1023
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:04,040
here to argue who's win and that's

1024
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,040
really not my department I'm glad to

1025
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,200
follow the rules I've done this for the

1026
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,359
last 26 years I bu for my family I buil

1027
00:52:11,359 --> 00:52:13,680
for friends that's my trade I this is

1028
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,280
not the first home I built and I am just

1029
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,599
um I would say upset or surprised that

1030
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:24,400
it took this department this long to say

1031
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,079
there is no way I beg and asking hey is

1032
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:29,760
there a way we can at least power up the

1033
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,480
property for now and then in the next

1034
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,400
few months Edis is going to take at

1035
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,559
least four months to change the plans

1036
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:37,920
it's a big burden and I've asked to

1037
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,640
please look into it and to end I don't

1038
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,599
want to just come in complain I love the

1039
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:46,079
city if we have wonderful people Public

1040
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:48,520
Works have done an awesome job the girls

1041
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:49,920
at the counter they're just such a

1042
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,760
beautiful job they go on and beyond

1043
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,480
their Duty not to mention Lacy Davis

1044
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,880
she's such a great person so I'm not

1045
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,559
here to just complain great people

1046
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:57,960
people but right now I feel like a

1047
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,640
couple people in the planning um

1048
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,559
organization may be messed up by um not

1049
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:04,480
giving us directions in the very

1050
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,280
beginning thank you for your time did

1051
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,599
you bu did you also renovate the house

1052
00:53:08,599 --> 00:53:11,280
next door excuse me was did you renovate

1053
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:12,960
the house right next door to that was

1054
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,280
that your house somebody else I just

1055
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,119
curious thank you we just put you the

1056
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:18,640
corner line yeah thank you ma'am thank

1057
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:29,870
you our next speaker is Bonnie slager

1058
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,400
hi Bonnie good evening everybody do you

1059
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,920
have well you know it's fair time and so

1060
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,200
I'm reminding everybody that you can buy

1061
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,599
Fair buttons now they're $15 ahead of

1062
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:45,280
time they're $2 at the gate and uh

1063
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,319
they're for sale at a lot of places on

1064
00:53:47,319 --> 00:53:49,200
Sixth Street they're for sale here at

1065
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,520
City Hall and some places on Hamer and I

1066
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,520
just happen to have some with me tonight

1067
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,599
if anybody wants to to buy a fair button

1068
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:00,720
uh my second thing that I wanted to

1069
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:03,599
mention again tonight is that um with

1070
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:07,200
the election coming up uh Norco

1071
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,480
Horsemen's Association and Rural has

1072
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,119
partnered to have a candidates night and

1073
00:54:12,119 --> 00:54:15,000
so I hope everybody will put on their

1074
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,520
calendar uh September 19th Thursday

1075
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,880
September

1076
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,680
19th um at Nelly Weaver Hall I guess I'm

1077
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,480
sorry I always call it I guess it's the

1078
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,640
hall now but it's still Nelly waiver

1079
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,119
Hall to me and at 6:30 we'll be having

1080
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:34,520
candidates night so I think the

1081
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,680
um I think this Friday is when the the

1082
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,160
deadline is for money it actually

1083
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,359
extends if the um if one incumbent does

1084
00:54:45,359 --> 00:54:49,000
not um put papers in so it'll extend to

1085
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,040
the 14th okay so so it may go till the

1086
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,880
14th correct correct all right cuz then

1087
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,920
I want to get letters out to all of the

1088
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,760
candidates so I can't do that until that

1089
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,839
but anyway so please put on your

1090
00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:04,960
calendar to come on September 19th and

1091
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,880
by Fair buttons thank you thank you

1092
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,599
Bonnie there's no further public comment

1093
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:14,640
mayor closing public comments now moving

1094
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,119
to the consent calendar I

1095
00:55:18,119 --> 00:55:22,640
oh all right quickly we'll

1096
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,079
reopen that's all right it I'll be real

1097
00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:29,000
brief uh Council she's new to Norco yeah

1098
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,599
right 30 some

1099
00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:33,160
years no I just want to give my

1100
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,079
compliments to the young ladies that

1101
00:55:35,079 --> 00:55:37,520
started the bean stack challenges I

1102
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,200
remember when I was that age not that

1103
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,799
long ago and it was so special for us

1104
00:55:43,799 --> 00:55:45,559
because I was raised in the City of

1105
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:47,440
Pomona and they used to have King

1106
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,119
Arthur's Round Table during the summer

1107
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:52,319
at the library for the kids from K

1108
00:55:52,319 --> 00:55:55,119
through sixth grade and it was a great

1109
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:56,720
place for us kids to go we couldn't go

1110
00:55:56,720 --> 00:55:58,280
to the local plunge we got to go to the

1111
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,160
library where it was air conditioned but

1112
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,640
they had something very similar to this

1113
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,160
so my hats off to these gals that

1114
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,240
started this and I hope businesses will

1115
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:07,400
get behind them and help them their with

1116
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,839
their support thank you thank

1117
00:56:10,839 --> 00:56:15,079
you anyone else no further comment mayor

1118
00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:18,880
going once going twice closed all right

1119
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,480
moving on to consent calendar uh Greg

1120
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:28,069
you are giving me a list

1121
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:39,710
not quite a list two items 3K

1122
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:43,880
3M move to approve the rest um

1123
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,470
I have

1124
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,319
one second hang on no I also want to

1125
00:56:51,319 --> 00:56:57,069
pull I want to pull 3F

1126
00:56:57,079 --> 00:57:04,309
now what's your

1127
00:57:04,319 --> 00:57:08,870
motion

1128
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:34,349
sorry please vote

1129
00:57:34,359 --> 00:57:44,910
Greg motion passage unanimous thank

1130
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,880
you you would be first yeah I was going

1131
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,640
to let you go first well since that's

1132
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,839
the truth um I just want to get actually

1133
00:57:53,839 --> 00:57:56,640
just an update on the 2023 General plan

1134
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,039
annual progress report just a little bit

1135
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:03,990
from

1136
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,839
someone yeah this is uh every year we

1137
00:58:06,839 --> 00:58:08,680
have to create the annual report based

1138
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,160
on the activities of pretty much the

1139
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,559
Community Development Department so

1140
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:15,039
we're um required to um there's not

1141
00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:16,640
really a deadline but we're supposed to

1142
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,160
submit it yearly so this report is

1143
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,559
basically a a summary of what has gone

1144
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:24,559
on in basically the Planning and

1145
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:26,559
Building Division and for were submitt

1146
00:58:26,559 --> 00:58:28,760
to the state so that's the purpose of

1147
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:29,440
this

1148
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,480
report um I guess my question is and

1149
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,680
looking at it it

1150
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,039
looks looks pretty impressive in my

1151
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:40,559
opinion

1152
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:44,920
um I'm pretty pleased with uh the way

1153
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,520
the report's laid out I'm really pleased

1154
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,400
with um the planning that's gone on I'm

1155
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,359
really pleased I'm just really really

1156
00:58:54,359 --> 00:58:57,640
pleased I'm I'm I'm I'm impressed and I

1157
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:58,680
really want to give you and your

1158
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,839
department Kudos thank you yeah

1159
00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:03,559
sincerely and I really really mean that

1160
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:05,000
can you let everybody in your department

1161
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,680
know that yes I will do that thank you

1162
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,640
and with that I will move to do we close

1163
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:09,960
them all at the same time or just one at

1164
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,200
a time motion

1165
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,119
to you vote on him one at a time okay so

1166
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:20,430
motion to

1167
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:33,990
approve please vote

1168
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,000
much passage unanimous thank you okay

1169
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,510
Greg

1170
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,720
3K thank you

1171
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,839
mayor um

1172
00:59:44,839 --> 00:59:47,720
Sam so this

1173
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,640
item is going to seem somewhat political

1174
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,119
but there is a staff

1175
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:54,799
question

1176
00:59:54,799 --> 00:59:57,839
um have

1177
00:59:57,839 --> 01:00:01,440
um uh this change order I I understand

1178
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,520
our our backs are up against the wall on

1179
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,319
this

1180
01:00:05,319 --> 01:00:08,440
um have you or Chad at this point

1181
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:13,230
reached out to our Edison rep

1182
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:18,039
representative on this item okay

1183
01:00:18,039 --> 01:00:20,880
and I I don't want to make it political

1184
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,039
but I'm going to do a little bit we have

1185
01:00:23,039 --> 01:00:26,160
a change order from Edison on um on a

1186
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,359
lift station which is legitimate as far

1187
01:00:29,359 --> 01:00:32,760
as the request for change my request is

1188
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,520
um asking staff

1189
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,680
um $6,000 in

1190
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,520
labor $2,200 in material which would

1191
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,960
seem to be the bulk of a job

1192
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:51,589
$42,000 in

1193
01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:56,599
other as it as it is um a $27

1194
01:00:56,599 --> 01:00:58,880
credit for

1195
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:04,559
Salvage and a 24% tax rate or another

1196
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:07,839
$2,000 so a job that's

1197
01:01:07,839 --> 01:01:09,599
approximately

1198
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:12,119
$10,000 is going to cost the residents

1199
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:18,230
six almost

1200
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,520
$66,000 and I think

1201
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,880
that it would be prudent to have staff

1202
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,920
reach out to to our our government

1203
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,280
representative and and question this I

1204
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,760
mean it it's

1205
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,520
just we all know Edison screws us right

1206
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,400
they impact every construction job uh

1207
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,000
the the time frame on this is ridiculous

1208
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,480
also but it's

1209
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,960
just I think we need to dig in a little

1210
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:51,920
bit and and try to fight it so okay and

1211
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,039
like I said I I would appreciate this I

1212
01:01:55,039 --> 01:01:57,119
um I'll make a motion to approve because

1213
01:01:57,119 --> 01:02:01,240
we have to move forward on it but not

1214
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,910
liking it at

1215
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,319
all do we have any thanks

1216
01:02:06,319 --> 01:02:08,920
Sam cover public comments anything from

1217
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,960
Council I have no public

1218
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:16,599
comments nothing um I second that oh oh

1219
01:02:16,599 --> 01:02:19,309
you did okay

1220
01:02:19,319 --> 01:02:27,109
good please vote

1221
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:36,510
um for the record Berwin seconded

1222
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,760
it motion passes unanimous thank you

1223
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:50,870
thank you moving on to

1224
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,200
3M so my questions are directed to Colin

1225
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,200
on on this item three um this is

1226
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,319
a to move forward with u an agreement

1227
01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:05,799
with cosmon u transaction

1228
01:03:05,799 --> 01:03:08,960
Services um one I'd like an explanation

1229
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,440
on where it says no Financial impact I I

1230
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,279
didn't see where that was addressed in

1231
01:03:14,279 --> 01:03:18,000
this report and also this strikes me as

1232
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,359
a

1233
01:03:20,359 --> 01:03:24,480
um like a cleanup item that was

1234
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,680
uh um

1235
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,240
over

1236
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,599
authorizations

1237
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:34,319
so it so yes it is it is like a cleanup

1238
01:03:34,319 --> 01:03:37,760
item because uh we need additional

1239
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,599
authority to to go over the $50,000 city

1240
01:03:41,599 --> 01:03:44,720
manager contract Authority on the fiscal

1241
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,240
impact portion I should have spelled

1242
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,160
that out better the reason there was no

1243
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,119
fiscal impact was because uh silverlakes

1244
01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:53,200
is supposed to reimburse the city for

1245
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,920
100% of the cost of this contract so we

1246
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,359
will pay the

1247
01:03:57,359 --> 01:04:00,279
$90,000 but we'll get reimbursed 100% by

1248
01:04:00,279 --> 01:04:02,520
Silver Lakes so it should be a wash with

1249
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,000
no fiscal impact but you're right that

1250
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,520
should have been spelled out better in

1251
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:06,559
in the

1252
01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:12,190
section and

1253
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,559
then uh understanding and or

1254
01:04:15,559 --> 01:04:19,319
notwithstanding their their expertise in

1255
01:04:19,319 --> 01:04:22,000
um these type of

1256
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,200
transactions

1257
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,920
um would you feel it would also be

1258
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,160
prudent to have our accounting

1259
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,760
firm look at

1260
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,000
um at this

1261
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,079
situation and also do you think it would

1262
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:44,599
be prudent to put out a um an RFP for a

1263
01:04:44,599 --> 01:04:50,559
firm that does um more large Sports

1264
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:53,710
Parks

1265
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,440
financing it's definitely something

1266
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,200
that's staff can look into uh it

1267
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,799
would provide another uh objective set

1268
01:05:01,799 --> 01:05:03,680
of eyes to some of the numbers we're

1269
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,680
looking at so if if Council wants us to

1270
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,319
proceed down that we can go ahead and

1271
01:05:09,319 --> 01:05:10,640
take a look and gather some information

1272
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,760
and come back to council with with what

1273
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,400
that would look like

1274
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,559
okay thank you that's all I

1275
01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:23,309
have did you want to make a motion for

1276
01:05:23,319 --> 01:05:27,240
that okay so you okay I'll move to

1277
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:28,640
approve but I would like it noted in the

1278
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,960
minutes that baloa management group is

1279
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,640
reimbursing the city for the cost of the

1280
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:49,230
services

1281
01:05:49,240 --> 01:06:03,589
second please vote

1282
01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:05,599
motion passes with council member or

1283
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:09,069
mayor protim Newton voting

1284
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:12,079
no moving on to

1285
01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:15,279
5A uh community development director

1286
01:06:15,279 --> 01:06:16,799
will answer any questions you have does

1287
01:06:16,799 --> 01:06:18,559
council have any questions or concerns

1288
01:06:18,559 --> 01:06:21,109
about

1289
01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:23,760
5A do we have any public

1290
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,119
comments no public comments on 5 a uh I

1291
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:29,039
ask for a motion on

1292
01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:31,480
5A move to

1293
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:36,950
approve

1294
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,279
second please

1295
01:06:39,279 --> 01:06:42,559
vote do you need to read this no Mr

1296
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:49,630
Mayor we read it on the first read

1297
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:53,000
okay motion passes unanimous thank you

1298
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,279
moving onone to 5B uh does council have

1299
01:06:55,279 --> 01:07:00,269
any question questions or concerns with

1300
01:07:00,279 --> 01:07:03,920
Sam any public comments no public

1301
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:08,430
comments on 5 b ask for a

1302
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,599
motion have a motion I need a second

1303
01:07:10,599 --> 01:07:12,400
I'll

1304
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,279
second I know I was like that was a

1305
01:07:14,279 --> 01:07:18,039
second second in a second sorry can I

1306
01:07:18,039 --> 01:07:23,150
make the motion sign again I made a

1307
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:38,349
second please vote oh God I'm G to get

1308
01:07:38,359 --> 01:07:41,119
fired motion passes unanimous thank you

1309
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:43,240
thank you moving on to 5c this will be

1310
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:44,079
for the

1311
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:46,319
attorney uh do we have any questions or

1312
01:07:46,319 --> 01:07:49,160
concerns through

1313
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,279
Colin are there any public comments we

1314
01:07:52,279 --> 01:07:54,119
have one public comment card Dylan

1315
01:07:54,119 --> 01:07:56,799
wimple

1316
01:07:56,799 --> 01:07:58,799
are there public comments on a second

1317
01:07:58,799 --> 01:08:03,799
read yes there are okay okay thank

1318
01:08:03,799 --> 01:08:07,680
you good evening good evening Dylan wimo

1319
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,000
is a resident I just want to say good

1320
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,279
help is hard to find I think you all put

1321
01:08:11,279 --> 01:08:12,880
in a lot of work I think it's entirely

1322
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,160
reasonable to do a onetime adjustment on

1323
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,359
a 20-year-old decision and I support the

1324
01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:19,520
motion thank you sir any other public

1325
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,880
comments no further comments closing

1326
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,400
public comments bringing it back to

1327
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:30,669
council for motion move to approve

1328
01:08:30,679 --> 01:08:46,229
second please

1329
01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:50,120
vote motion Was Defeated

1330
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,960
um we have council member Newton voting

1331
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,520
no council member grum Gren Meer voting

1332
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,359
no and council member Hannah abstaining

1333
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:06,829
from

1334
01:09:06,839 --> 01:09:10,709
vote all

1335
01:09:10,719 --> 01:09:15,440
right moving on discussion um order

1336
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:16,960
presentation for discussion items will

1337
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,480
be staff report presentation Council

1338
01:09:19,480 --> 01:09:21,120
questions of Staff public comment

1339
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:22,880
Council discussion and

1340
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:27,910
action we'll begin with 6A

1341
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,040
um G

1342
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,159
Rios nice to see you is this your first

1343
01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:40,870
time presenting it is good luck thank

1344
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,000
you good evening city council tonight I

1345
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,759
have before you the California Native

1346
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:48,960
tolerant Landscaping

1347
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,960
policy on April 17th of

1348
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,600
2024 the Narco city council directed

1349
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,239
staff to create a California Native

1350
01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:58,800
drought tolerant Landscaping policy for

1351
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,280
review at a future meeting the proposed

1352
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,199
policy will prioritize the use of

1353
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:05,159
California Native drought tolerant

1354
01:10:05,159 --> 01:10:07,400
landscaping and will support noro's

1355
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,440
conservation goals along with complying

1356
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:12,280
with state and local water

1357
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,760
regulations the policy intends to apply

1358
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,800
these practices to City facilities

1359
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,840
during Landscaping upgrades or new

1360
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,080
projects striving to use native drought

1361
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,640
tolerant plants wherever feasible the

1362
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,280
city will make every effort to utilize

1363
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,400
ize California Native drought tolerant

1364
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,239
plans as reasonably

1365
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:32,719
achievable the purpose of this policy is

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01:10:32,719 --> 01:10:34,560
to promote sustainable Landscaping

1367
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,320
practices at City facilities to conserve

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01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,640
water enhance biodiversity and

1369
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,320
strengthen resilience to drought and

1370
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:42,360
climate

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01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,800
variability this policy applies to all

1372
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,120
new Landscaping installations and

1373
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,199
Rehabilitation projects at City

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01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:51,440
facilities which will be managed by the

1375
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:52,520
park

1376
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,840
superintendent the proposed guidelines

1377
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,640
include native plant

1378
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,760
selection the city encourages the

1379
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,480
selection of California Native drought

1380
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:02,880
tolerant plants as recommended by the

1381
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,440
California Native Plant Society and the

1382
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:10,390
Riverside Corona resource Conservation

1383
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,120
District water conservation the city

1384
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,360
will prioritize the use of low water use

1385
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,880
plants and efficient irrigation methods

1386
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,920
to significantly reduce water waste

1387
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,880
moreover Turf elimination Turf will be

1388
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,159
eliminated as a ground for option in

1389
01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:28,679
medians Parkways and for purely

1390
01:11:28,679 --> 01:11:31,790
ornamental

1391
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,040
purposes so why native plants native

1392
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,600
plants improve water conservation native

1393
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,520
plants are naturally adapted to thrive

1394
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,040
in Southern California's Aid climate

1395
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,800
requiring minimal supplemental

1396
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,360
irrigation once established this

1397
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,320
characteristic not only prevents Water

1398
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,120
waste but also eleviate strain on local

1399
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,679
Water

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01:11:52,679 --> 01:11:55,239
Resources native plant support biodivers

1401
01:11:55,239 --> 01:11:58,080
iers native plants are vital to noro's

1402
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,679
local ecosystems providing essential

1403
01:12:00,679 --> 01:12:03,960
habitat sources food sources and nesting

1404
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,320
sites for indigenous Wildlife species

1405
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,840
including Birds insects and pollinators

1406
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,120
like bees and

1407
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,679
butterflies they also possess natural

1408
01:12:12,679 --> 01:12:15,480
defenses against pests and diseases

1409
01:12:15,480 --> 01:12:17,280
attracting beneficial insects and

1410
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,600
animals that enhance natural Pest

1411
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,120
Management native plants also adapt to

1412
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,440
climate change these species are

1413
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:27,880
inherently resilient and adaptable to

1414
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,719
climate variability making them well

1415
01:12:29,719 --> 01:12:31,320
suited to cope with changing

1416
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,400
environmental conditions furthermore

1417
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,080
they advanc sustainability initiatives

1418
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,280
native planting serve as effective tools

1419
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,920
for carbon sequestration by absorbing

1420
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,199
carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and

1421
01:12:44,199 --> 01:12:47,239
storing it in vegetation and soil this

1422
01:12:47,239 --> 01:12:49,360
process mitigates carbon emissions and

1423
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,199
supports broader efforts to combat

1424
01:12:51,199 --> 01:12:55,830
climate change

1425
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,480
the city of Norco is committed to

1426
01:12:57,480 --> 01:13:00,400
partnering with the cnps to utilize

1427
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,960
their expertise on native plants and

1428
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,920
Landscaping through resources like

1429
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,400
calscape which is a database that offers

1430
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,239
detailed information on California

1431
01:13:09,239 --> 01:13:11,440
native plants for Effective

1432
01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:13,800
integration collaborations will also

1433
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,320
extend to the

1434
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,400
rccd which provides valuable services

1435
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,920
including Environmental Education soil

1436
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,760
Health assistance and Native Plant

1437
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,840
propagation or reproduction

1438
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,400
additionally Partnerships with the

1439
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,719
Western Municipal Water District will

1440
01:13:29,719 --> 01:13:31,360
focus on promoting sustainable

1441
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,840
landscaping and securing grant funding

1442
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,800
to replace Turf with drought tolerant

1443
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:40,910
native plants at City

1444
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,280
facilities attached to this policy is

1445
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,520
the native plant species list the

1446
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,440
California native plant species list

1447
01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:51,280
recommended by the cnps and the rccd

1448
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,280
includes plants that require moderate to

1449
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,719
very low water intake the city is

1450
01:13:55,719 --> 01:13:57,600
committed to incorporating these native

1451
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,920
drought tolerant species were ever

1452
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:02,520
feasible however factors such as plant

1453
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,040
availability and maintenance

1454
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,560
requirements May necessitate the use of

1455
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,639
alternative drought tolerant plants

1456
01:14:08,639 --> 01:14:10,880
including succulent and cacti when

1457
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,400
native options are not available

1458
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,320
furthermore under Norco municipal code

1459
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,400
alander is prohibited and must not be

1460
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,320
planted or maintained within City

1461
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,679
Limits thank you for your time and I

1462
01:14:24,679 --> 01:14:26,159
will now answer any questions that you

1463
01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:28,679
may have does council have any questions

1464
01:14:28,679 --> 01:14:31,920
well done by the way thank

1465
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,239
you Robin I had a question for you on

1466
01:14:35,239 --> 01:14:37,840
some of the native plants that are uh

1467
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:42,000
listed uh in the report a couple of

1468
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,280
them they're native so they're not

1469
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,960
invasive but they do have a tendency to

1470
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,880
spread pretty aggressively so when the

1471
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,600
planting decisions are made on the parks

1472
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,280
areas uh I would assume asse the

1473
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:56,800
superintendent would take that into

1474
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,320
consideration

1475
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:02,239
correct right yes okay perfect so and

1476
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:04,920
then just for you know if anybody's

1477
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,639
familiar equisetum or horse tail was

1478
01:15:07,639 --> 01:15:10,320
listed in one of these morning glories

1479
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,199
um know at the a department we fight

1480
01:15:12,199 --> 01:15:13,880
those all the time because we do have

1481
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:15,719
them planted but they do they're very

1482
01:15:15,719 --> 01:15:19,440
aggressive and take over entire areas so

1483
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:20,600
just want to make sure as we're

1484
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,880
promoting native plants uh within the

1485
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,159
city and just in general for folks at

1486
01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:28,639
home that they um that were

1487
01:15:28,639 --> 01:15:30,840
communicating clearly with some of these

1488
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,000
that um they can be a bit aggressive in

1489
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,320
nature as far as how they spread so

1490
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,280
thank you for your report thank you

1491
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,480
anything yeah yeah I just I had sent in

1492
01:15:41,480 --> 01:15:43,199
a question earlier just looking because

1493
01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:44,880
when we were looking at doing this

1494
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,520
policy some feedback I had given was

1495
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:47,920
looking at is there a recommended

1496
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,040
percent of natives um and there wasn't

1497
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,120
from our uh subject matter experts so

1498
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:59,189
thank you

1499
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:02,639
GRE good report thank you so you

1500
01:16:02,639 --> 01:16:06,360
graduated yeah I graduated last year all

1501
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,440
right well I know Amanda's happy with

1502
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:12,960
all your work and she's proud of you um

1503
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,000
couple of things i' and to you and to

1504
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,880
staff that I know you've been doing

1505
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:24,520
this quite um a while um with with

1506
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,199
Native plants this is nothing new to uh

1507
01:16:28,199 --> 01:16:30,560
you know our staff I do appreciate in

1508
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:34,360
your report that U you took the time to

1509
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,840
list plants that are also available and

1510
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,040
coste

1511
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,280
effective okay um which is something

1512
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:47,709
that we should always be aware of

1513
01:16:47,719 --> 01:16:51,880
um when you mentioned Oleander

1514
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,440
okay did we check any of these

1515
01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:58,560
plants or Rec recommendation plants for

1516
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,709
toxicity to

1517
01:17:01,719 --> 01:17:05,920
animals no okay

1518
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,000
so you know when you're looking for

1519
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,400
something to

1520
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:13,639
do maybe just want to run down that

1521
01:17:13,639 --> 01:17:15,760
list we did not but we could we could

1522
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,080
definitely um look through it again yeah

1523
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,199
I

1524
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:21,800
mean that's all I have good job

1525
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,199
appreciate it

1526
01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:27,639
any other questions

1527
01:17:27,639 --> 01:17:29,480
bwin stay

1528
01:17:29,480 --> 01:17:32,239
nearby um do we have any public

1529
01:17:32,239 --> 01:17:34,920
comments no public comments on this item

1530
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,679
okay closing that bringing back to

1531
01:17:36,679 --> 01:17:40,159
council for Action sorry mayor we do we

1532
01:17:40,159 --> 01:17:46,870
have one Dylan

1533
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,400
wimple all hello

1534
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,679
again hi uh my name is Dylan wimple here

1535
01:17:52,679 --> 01:17:54,040
as a resident of Norco to comment on the

1536
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,719
policy first I'd like to say thank you

1537
01:17:55,719 --> 01:17:57,159
for Council for provid providing the

1538
01:17:57,159 --> 01:17:58,600
direction and thank you to City staff

1539
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,280
for all of the invested time and effort

1540
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:01,600
that went into this I appreciate our

1541
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,600
commitment as a city to Green Space I

1542
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,280
would ask for a few clarification points

1543
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,360
and request some minor adjustments if

1544
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,719
possible uh we call out that water is a

1545
01:18:09,719 --> 01:18:11,239
precious a precious resource and

1546
01:18:11,239 --> 01:18:12,960
destructive force a native drought

1547
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,199
tolerant Landscaping policy neglects the

1548
01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:16,679
potential use of riparian and other

1549
01:18:16,679 --> 01:18:18,080
native plants that can help drain

1550
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,760
flooded areas that are prone to flooding

1551
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,760
during seasonal Water Events native

1552
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,159
riparian buffers can be installed to

1553
01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:25,440
infiltrate and soak up storm water

1554
01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:26,960
quickly reducing the burden on our storm

1555
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,080
water infrastructure please allow in

1556
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:30,880
certain instances high water use plants

1557
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,000
and include them in our storm water

1558
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,679
management plan I don't see any trees on

1559
01:18:34,679 --> 01:18:36,080
the list there's shrubs perals and

1560
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,679
everything else trees are major points

1561
01:18:38,679 --> 01:18:40,679
of biodiversity our native Oaks Willows

1562
01:18:40,679 --> 01:18:42,080
and Cherry support hundreds of species

1563
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:43,840
of caterpillars and are keystones for

1564
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,719
biodiversity please take the opportunity

1565
01:18:45,719 --> 01:18:47,159
to review our street tree list in a

1566
01:18:47,159 --> 01:18:48,560
future session and work to increase

1567
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,239
native tree options ideally giving

1568
01:18:50,239 --> 01:18:51,880
preference to them when site conditions

1569
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,840
allow long-term care and maintenance

1570
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,760
costs will be reduced so I ask Council

1571
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,080
take the opportunity to invest in

1572
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,440
training City staff on the maintenance

1573
01:18:58,440 --> 01:19:00,600
and care of native plantings this will

1574
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:01,880
help save on cost for failed

1575
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,280
installations and ensures that the right

1576
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,600
plant is chosen for the right place in

1577
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,199
larger projects I'd ask that bloom

1578
01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:08,440
periods are taken into account to

1579
01:19:08,440 --> 01:19:09,920
support pollinators with forage of

1580
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,719
nectar and pollen throughout the entire

1581
01:19:11,719 --> 01:19:14,880
year smaller installations may be exempt

1582
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,199
as side conditions

1583
01:19:16,199 --> 01:19:18,400
allow if suitable plant material is not

1584
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:19,880
available aset before switching to a

1585
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,000
non-native option an alternative native

1586
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,800
option or an alternative native size so

1587
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,000
if it's a one gallon that we can only

1588
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,239
find in three gallons or Etc that that

1589
01:19:27,239 --> 01:19:29,320
be given preference and finally I would

1590
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,120
ask that as this effort is a municipal

1591
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,440
program that when we contract out work

1592
01:19:34,440 --> 01:19:36,320
and when we uh push for commercial

1593
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,199
applications that we encourage the

1594
01:19:38,199 --> 01:19:40,199
inclusion of native plants in those so

1595
01:19:40,199 --> 01:19:42,440
potentially and Landscaping contracts I

1596
01:19:42,440 --> 01:19:44,280
know we bid everything out and apply

1597
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:45,560
weighted scores to everything if we can

1598
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,520
include a native plant weight on our

1599
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,360
analyses and sorry my fault and in

1600
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:53,600
commercial plantings when we're

1601
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,360
requiring native green or we're

1602
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:56,960
requiring green space and all of these

1603
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:58,360
if we can offer support to these

1604
01:19:58,360 --> 01:19:59,880
commercial Endeavors make it easy for

1605
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:01,639
them to just plug and play an approved

1606
01:20:01,639 --> 01:20:03,280
option that works with their conditions

1607
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:04,480
and take the burden off of them so that

1608
01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:06,639
it's more easily adapted changes like

1609
01:20:06,639 --> 01:20:07,960
those I think will better reflect our

1610
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:09,520
city and keep a cohesive vision for the

1611
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,159
entire city and I thank you for your

1612
01:20:11,159 --> 01:20:12,880
time thank you

1613
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,440
sir no further comments mayor all right

1614
01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:22,629
bring you back to council for

1615
01:20:22,639 --> 01:20:25,360
Action I'd just like to comment uh thank

1616
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,320
you to this uh staff and the parks

1617
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,239
department for and facilities for

1618
01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:31,960
already implementing some of this if you

1619
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:33,760
look at the Cathy aavo Memorial if you

1620
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,480
look at the Veterans area the

1621
01:20:35,480 --> 01:20:36,880
Landscaping in front of the community

1622
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:38,719
center has all been done already with

1623
01:20:38,719 --> 01:20:40,639
this in mind prior to policy so I want

1624
01:20:40,639 --> 01:20:42,920
to thank staff for being proactive on

1625
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,320
that and with that I will move to

1626
01:20:45,320 --> 01:21:00,189
approve second

1627
01:21:00,199 --> 01:21:13,270
please

1628
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,239
vote motion passes unanimous thank you

1629
01:21:17,239 --> 01:21:18,960
moving on to

1630
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:23,159
6B um do we have

1631
01:21:23,159 --> 01:21:28,440
any staff report first of all yes

1632
01:21:28,440 --> 01:21:32,590
yes good evening

1633
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,880
Council this agenda item uh 6B is the

1634
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:38,719
required annual review of accessory

1635
01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:40,040
building our accessory building

1636
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,880
ordinance was is chapter 1868 of our nor

1637
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,840
municipal code and this is uh

1638
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,719
non-habitable accessory buildings

1639
01:21:47,719 --> 01:21:50,639
consisting primarily of um RV garages

1640
01:21:50,639 --> 01:21:54,159
garages and barns so part of when when

1641
01:21:54,159 --> 01:21:56,880
the count adopted this um this ordinance

1642
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,080
it was required to be um reviewed on an

1643
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,440
annual basis so here we are uh the um

1644
01:22:02,440 --> 01:22:05,080
annual review typically consists of uh

1645
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,239
provides the the council well our

1646
01:22:07,239 --> 01:22:09,560
Planning Commission and city council a

1647
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,520
history of what the changes that have

1648
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,400
been done um uh beginning in 2017 when

1649
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,639
the ordinance was adopted and it

1650
01:22:17,639 --> 01:22:20,480
provides um the number of accessory

1651
01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:21,760
buildings that were approved in the

1652
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,199
prior calendar year and it goes into

1653
01:22:24,199 --> 01:22:26,560
issu isues that may have come up as um

1654
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,320
during the year that may warrant some

1655
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,800
changes so tonight's presentation is

1656
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,639
basically going to focus on uh

1657
01:22:32,639 --> 01:22:35,120
discussion items of uh just issues

1658
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,199
potential changes that have come up in

1659
01:22:37,199 --> 01:22:40,040
the previous year that are worthy for of

1660
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:41,719
consideration to see if there's any

1661
01:22:41,719 --> 01:22:43,320
potential changes so the first

1662
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,520
discussion item um that um is being

1663
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,960
recommended for discussion is that um in

1664
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:50,920
the approval of an accessory building

1665
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:52,320
there's required findings that have to

1666
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,800
be made and there are in ordinance staff

1667
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,280
is recommending uh that an additional

1668
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,920
finding be added so that um when an

1669
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,480
accessory building is approved um that

1670
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:06,080
we analyze and make sure that there's

1671
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,320
still room to add an Adu of the minimum

1672
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,480
size of 800 square feet um I incorrectly

1673
01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:14,320
mentioned 850 Square F feet but for an

1674
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:15,960
Adu the minimum size that we have to

1675
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,440
allow is 800 square feet now the reason

1676
01:23:19,440 --> 01:23:22,199
being that um we allow for a detached

1677
01:23:22,199 --> 01:23:24,040
accessory dwelling unit or Adu we allow

1678
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,800
1,200 sare fet but if they can't meet

1679
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,600
all the requirements we have to add a

1680
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,600
minimum allow 800 square fet that could

1681
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,760
potentially end up in the in the pack if

1682
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,360
it's not you know um feasible anywhere

1683
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,159
else so what we want to add is the

1684
01:23:37,159 --> 01:23:39,040
finding that you know after with the

1685
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,239
approving of this garage for example

1686
01:23:41,239 --> 01:23:44,159
garage there's still room to um add an

1687
01:23:44,159 --> 01:23:46,679
Adu that's not going to obstruct the um

1688
01:23:46,679 --> 01:23:48,920
animal keeping area uh Planning

1689
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,840
Commission reviewed this and they they

1690
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:52,320
agreed with straff recommendation that a

1691
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,040
finding should be added so the second

1692
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,440
item is that we amend the development

1693
01:23:56,440 --> 01:23:58,000
standards to address conversion of

1694
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,360
accessory buildings into adus so um as

1695
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,280
the council is aware uh in addition to

1696
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,360
allowing a detached new newly

1697
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,440
constructed Adu uh residents do have the

1698
01:24:08,440 --> 01:24:11,080
ability to convert uh an accessory

1699
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:12,199
building like for

1700
01:24:12,199 --> 01:24:15,800
example a garage into an additional Adu

1701
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,120
so what what uh the discussion was the

1702
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:19,679
plan with the Planning Commission is

1703
01:24:19,679 --> 01:24:21,400
that we look at the development

1704
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,560
standards of the accessory buildings and

1705
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,840
um potentially amend them to not make it

1706
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,120
as easy I guess to facilitate a

1707
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:31,760
conversion so what the the Planning

1708
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,920
Commission directed or or recommended

1709
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,320
that we look at the

1710
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:40,480
um uh the uh RV garages and the RV

1711
01:24:40,480 --> 01:24:42,280
garages are allowed at 1,000 sare ft²

1712
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,760
with an additional 400 square F feet uh

1713
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:46,480
the recommendation is that we consider

1714
01:24:46,480 --> 01:24:48,199
um removing the additional 400 square F

1715
01:24:48,199 --> 01:24:51,080
feet and maybe making them more narrow

1716
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:52,600
uh so that they're basically built only

1717
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:56,280
to accommodate uh RVs or or structure as

1718
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,600
opposed to an additional Adu uh the

1719
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,920
second item for discussion is that we C

1720
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:03,159
centralize the requirement for an AA or

1721
01:25:03,159 --> 01:25:04,880
an animal keeping open animal keeping

1722
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,760
area in chapter 1868 right now the way

1723
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,280
it's written it just defers to the

1724
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,360
underlying Zone staff has recommended

1725
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:12,520
that as part of the development

1726
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,320
standards the um the provision for the

1727
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:19,480
AA uh be specified in in chapter 1868

1728
01:25:19,480 --> 01:25:21,280
and plan commission said yes that's a

1729
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:24,400
good idea so um the other item for

1730
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,480
discussion is that we codify the number

1731
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:29,159
of accessory buildings Allowed by type

1732
01:25:29,159 --> 01:25:32,000
um you know for example the code allows

1733
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:32,960
RV

1734
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,440
garage uh and smaller buildings 864 s

1735
01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:38,840
feet and Barnes um the recommendation is

1736
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,480
that we codify for example that only one

1737
01:25:41,480 --> 01:25:42,560
RV

1738
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:46,119
garage um with be allowed and not

1739
01:25:46,119 --> 01:25:48,400
several um and that if conditions

1740
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,080
warranted they can apply for a variance

1741
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,719
to allow for more uh another point of

1742
01:25:52,719 --> 01:25:56,199
discussion is that um we did get a a

1743
01:25:56,199 --> 01:25:58,480
letter written by a a property owner

1744
01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:02,280
that we look at the height of of for

1745
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,800
example RV garages versus animal keeping

1746
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,800
structures um right now the height of an

1747
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,199
RV garage is uh the wall actually the

1748
01:26:09,199 --> 01:26:13,239
wall is is uh taller than um 16 ft than

1749
01:26:13,239 --> 01:26:15,800
was it allowed for a um animal keeping

1750
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,520
structure which is limited at at 10 ft

1751
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,760
um and that we consider the concern was

1752
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,679
that we're more permissive for arvi

1753
01:26:23,679 --> 01:26:26,840
garage height as opposed to a barn but

1754
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,159
there was a reason for um why we limited

1755
01:26:29,159 --> 01:26:33,239
it because again for um an RV garage the

1756
01:26:33,239 --> 01:26:35,600
cap is at a th000 square feet for a barn

1757
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,320
it could go much bigger depending on the

1758
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,719
number of animal units and hence you're

1759
01:26:40,719 --> 01:26:42,960
you can go ultimately go transition up

1760
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,440
to 18 ft but it starts low because you

1761
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:47,480
know you're when it's a big structure

1762
01:26:47,480 --> 01:26:48,639
you're actually breaking up the

1763
01:26:48,639 --> 01:26:51,960
appearance of a big block as opposed to

1764
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:55,520
um uh as opposed to a big large um um

1765
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,679
Square so uh and finally um increase the

1766
01:26:59,679 --> 01:27:01,840
square footage of buildings except from

1767
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,639
Planning Commission review um let me

1768
01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:06,400
Backtrack on the the height reviewing

1769
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:07,719
the height the commission said you know

1770
01:27:07,719 --> 01:27:09,360
just basically leave it alone and there

1771
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,280
is a variance process to um you know to

1772
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,080
um warrant discussion for individual

1773
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,400
Property Owners on a case-by Case basis

1774
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,920
so the last point of discussion is that

1775
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,000
um increasing the square footage of

1776
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:23,280
buildings that are exempt from Planning

1777
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,360
Commission review right now buildings

1778
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,840
that are 240 ft don't require Planning

1779
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:29,040
Commission review they still have to

1780
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:30,800
meet with the requirements but they

1781
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,040
don't require Planning Commission review

1782
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,119
the recommendation was that we possibly

1783
01:27:35,119 --> 01:27:38,040
go all the way up to 864 square feet for

1784
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,000
exempt from Planning Commission review

1785
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,480
Planning Commission uh reie uh basically

1786
01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:44,440
said that no let's just leave it how it

1787
01:27:44,440 --> 01:27:46,920
is to only exempt those that are 240

1788
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:50,480
square fet or less so again part of the

1789
01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:53,000
this is just discussion uh part of the

1790
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,159
um required um anual review of accessory

1791
01:27:55,159 --> 01:27:57,600
building uh ordinance chapter

1792
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:02,440
1868 um and discussion for issues and um

1793
01:28:02,440 --> 01:28:04,560
concerns are always discussed as part of

1794
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,360
our review and the purpose of this um

1795
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,960
agenda item is for the uh uh city

1796
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,600
council to review um uh the planning

1797
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:13,960
commission's recommendations and

1798
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:15,400
determine whether we should move forward

1799
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,040
with code amendments and with that I

1800
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:18,560
will conclude and answer any questions

1801
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,360
thank you uh Council have any questions

1802
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:30,070
bwin

1803
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:34,360
Greg there we go

1804
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:39,080
um on that explanation where it was um

1805
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,080
concerned from the property owner that's

1806
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:45,520
on page 288 of 341 yeah U middle of the

1807
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,239
page Wall height

1808
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:51,790
um

1809
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:58,400
so it's on a barn yes it's 10 feet from

1810
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:02,800
the eve yes right

1811
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,080
but we can go up to 18

1812
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,600
ft right so I don't really understand

1813
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,639
the concern in in this

1814
01:29:12,639 --> 01:29:17,119
case that since it can be larger right

1815
01:29:17,119 --> 01:29:26,270
yes then let's say the RV storage so

1816
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,679
yeah I was just trying to it it didn't

1817
01:29:28,679 --> 01:29:33,400
read real clear to me on that

1818
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:37,480
um so it goes back to something you said

1819
01:29:37,480 --> 01:29:41,920
earlier um where we can impact pacas or

1820
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,159
animal keeping areas based on what's

1821
01:29:45,159 --> 01:29:47,760
feasible so my question

1822
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,440
is how how do we determine

1823
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:55,199
feasibility um is as far

1824
01:29:55,199 --> 01:29:58,040
as I don't like the idea of giving up an

1825
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:01,239
animaling area for an Adu or any other

1826
01:30:01,239 --> 01:30:07,000
structure so um would it be feasible um

1827
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,920
like in a definition to say well you

1828
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,800
have to remove a another structure to

1829
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,880
make your Adu fit instead of impacting

1830
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,830
the animal keeping

1831
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,560
area so definition of what's feasible

1832
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,040
and how would we determine that well

1833
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:26,440
gener generally speaking what staff um

1834
01:30:26,440 --> 01:30:29,080
was looking at for example um accessory

1835
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,159
buildings these like U garages barns are

1836
01:30:32,159 --> 01:30:35,760
not um they're not an automatic approval

1837
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:37,199
so it's a discretionary approval by the

1838
01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:38,280
Planning Commission so they can be

1839
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:41,320
denied M ad cannot they they're

1840
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:42,840
ministerial they don't have to go before

1841
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:44,760
the Planning Commission they're approved

1842
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,800
at staff level uh and we have to allow

1843
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:52,040
them we have to so what we were staff's

1844
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,440
um uh

1845
01:30:55,440 --> 01:30:57,320
consensus on this was basically and in

1846
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,239
the consensus by the Planning Commission

1847
01:30:59,239 --> 01:31:01,159
was that when we look at accessory

1848
01:31:01,159 --> 01:31:04,880
buildings like an nvy garage um we need

1849
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,400
to look and see whether if some in

1850
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:09,840
addition to that garage if somebody

1851
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,119
comes in and wants to build an Adu we

1852
01:31:12,119 --> 01:31:13,800
want to make sure that there's still

1853
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:17,159
room for that Adu outside of for

1854
01:31:17,159 --> 01:31:19,360
primarily the animal keeping area so

1855
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:20,840
basically how they would show that is

1856
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,280
maybe just do like a square of at least

1857
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,560
800 square Fe showing hey you know you

1858
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,480
guys allow This Barn uh we can still

1859
01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:30,199
make provision for an Adu that's not

1860
01:31:30,199 --> 01:31:33,280
going to be inside the Packa or obstruct

1861
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,360
the access to it so they just they would

1862
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,119
have to show it demonstrate if they

1863
01:31:38,119 --> 01:31:40,320
can't um demonstrate well then I guess

1864
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,159
they would have to reduce the size of

1865
01:31:42,159 --> 01:31:46,000
their um accessory building if they

1866
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:47,600
can't I'm sure that it could accommodate

1867
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,679
because again if we can accommodate if

1868
01:31:49,679 --> 01:31:51,719
we after applying all the restrictions

1869
01:31:51,719 --> 01:31:54,119
like a Packa access to it all the step

1870
01:31:54,119 --> 01:31:56,520
backs and you can't at least accommodate

1871
01:31:56,520 --> 01:32:00,040
a a new detached 800t Adu it's got to go

1872
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,880
either in the front yard or in what we

1873
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,440
have as our animal keeping area and it

1874
01:32:04,440 --> 01:32:05,920
could be the Packa or the animal keep

1875
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,280
and that's what we want to avoid

1876
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,280
okay I like that we can become proactive

1877
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,600
on this right yes that's the that's the

1878
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,320
intent thanks to you planning staff and

1879
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,629
Planning

1880
01:32:19,639 --> 01:32:21,880
Commission but they you can also put an

1881
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,480
Adu in your front yard you can if that's

1882
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:27,520
the only place that's left yeah

1883
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,480
MH or take out the animal keeping pretty

1884
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:32,280
much

1885
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:35,000
yes

1886
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,920
okay good luck thank

1887
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:42,950
you C but I appreciate that Alma

1888
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:46,360
thanks yes what is the cost for a

1889
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:49,440
variance um it's listed in some cases if

1890
01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:51,199
if this were to go through someone could

1891
01:32:51,199 --> 01:32:52,880
apply for a variance what would the cost

1892
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,000
be for a variance the cost for variance

1893
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,440
in in addition to um the review for the

1894
01:32:57,440 --> 01:33:04,550
accessory building is

1895
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:08,760
$3,885 and then um to build on what Greg

1896
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:10,280
had said with the barns I drew myself a

1897
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:12,000
little picture so I guess I'm thinking

1898
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,880
most of our lots are half acre so the

1899
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,800
way our accessory building ordinance is

1900
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:18,760
currently written your barn can have 10

1901
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:22,320
foot walls but it can go quite up to 18

1902
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:27,000
but your RV garage can have 16t yes so

1903
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,600
in that sense you are allowed a higher

1904
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,280
building right not in the center but on

1905
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,960
the side of your walls um on the same

1906
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,719
size lot yes which was the the instance

1907
01:33:36,719 --> 01:33:38,880
where you know I think that person saw

1908
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:40,679
an RV garage and thought well I can

1909
01:33:40,679 --> 01:33:43,159
build my barn in a similar fashion and

1910
01:33:43,159 --> 01:33:45,480
then found out that they could not

1911
01:33:45,480 --> 01:33:47,480
correct that it well based on the

1912
01:33:47,480 --> 01:33:49,119
description that they were providing us

1913
01:33:49,119 --> 01:33:50,800
it was intended for a barn so that's

1914
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,400
where the Restriction came in okay and

1915
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,760
then in the staff

1916
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,560
report the recommendation cuz some of

1917
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,080
them had to do with each other so I was

1918
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,119
you know reading them all trying to

1919
01:34:01,119 --> 01:34:03,480
connect all the dots

1920
01:34:03,480 --> 01:34:07,480
um there was a suggestion of limiting

1921
01:34:07,480 --> 01:34:10,719
the size then of the RV garage so that

1922
01:34:10,719 --> 01:34:12,080
it would be a narrow building if the

1923
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,719
walls were that high yes the the

1924
01:34:14,719 --> 01:34:17,119
suggestion basically came from you know

1925
01:34:17,119 --> 01:34:18,760
you're creating situations where you're

1926
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:20,800
it's not easily converted into

1927
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:24,080
a Adu so what was the recommendation is

1928
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,400
that to eliminate the additional 400 ft

1929
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,239
that is allowed in addition to 1,000

1930
01:34:28,239 --> 01:34:31,040
square F feet and then um establish some

1931
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,639
kind of limit as to the width of it to

1932
01:34:33,639 --> 01:34:35,719
where it's only wide enough to basically

1933
01:34:35,719 --> 01:34:38,800
accommodate um what's intended for an RV

1934
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:42,280
or a large vehicle so that way it would

1935
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,119
be more of a skinny building um as

1936
01:34:45,119 --> 01:34:46,520
opposed to something that's wide that

1937
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:49,199
could be turned into potentially an 18

1938
01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:50,920
okay and then what would the limit be

1939
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:51,840
because I know one of the

1940
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,040
recommendations later on that that did

1941
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,000
not the Planning

1942
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,920
Commission didn't recommend to adopt was

1943
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:00,840
to allow more of a ministerial approval

1944
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,679
for buildings that are 864 square feet

1945
01:35:03,679 --> 01:35:05,560
so are we talking about other than an RV

1946
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:07,280
Garage in that

1947
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:10,520
instance anything that's 8 uh no it

1948
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:13,199
would it yes anything the height limit

1949
01:35:13,199 --> 01:35:15,880
to be ministerial would be at at 8 foot

1950
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:18,199
walls and 14 foot tall so yes it would

1951
01:35:18,199 --> 01:35:21,790
not include an arv

1952
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:25,639
garage and 86 64 ft and under okay I

1953
01:35:25,639 --> 01:35:27,080
just wanted to follow where all those

1954
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:29,480
pieces were were coming okay I think

1955
01:35:29,480 --> 01:35:30,880
those are all my questions right now

1956
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,639
thank you

1957
01:35:33,639 --> 01:35:36,320
Robin um what would it take to outright

1958
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:37,520
ban

1959
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:41,320
them ban accessory buildings because the

1960
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:42,639
problem that we have is that we're

1961
01:35:42,639 --> 01:35:45,639
trying to promote animaling large plot

1962
01:35:45,639 --> 01:35:48,440
farming small plot farming we're trying

1963
01:35:48,440 --> 01:35:50,719
to promote a lifestyle of Elbow Room

1964
01:35:50,719 --> 01:35:54,360
with the last one left and so in

1965
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,000
um I'm I'm actually surprised because we

1966
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:58,719
actually have an Adu being built in the

1967
01:35:58,719 --> 01:36:00,520
front yard on somebody on California

1968
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,440
Avenue and because they claimed they

1969
01:36:03,440 --> 01:36:04,719
didn't have the room in the back when

1970
01:36:04,719 --> 01:36:07,080
they did have room in the back but your

1971
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:12,000
hands were tied and so I think that if

1972
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,920
we're being forced to do this I think we

1973
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:17,119
need to get rid of accessory buildings I

1974
01:36:17,119 --> 01:36:19,119
think I I totally get people want to

1975
01:36:19,119 --> 01:36:20,600
park motor homes and those kind of

1976
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:23,760
things but how many motor homes will

1977
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,040
take to sustain 7,000 rooftops to

1978
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:27,840
maintain a Halfacre

1979
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,199
parcel what would it take a Cote

1980
01:36:30,199 --> 01:36:33,360
Amendment from uh approved and adopted

1981
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,880
by Council great thank you uh do we have

1982
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:37,159
any public

1983
01:36:37,159 --> 01:36:39,920
comments no public comments on this item

1984
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:41,400
right closing public comments bringing

1985
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:47,629
back to council for comments

1986
01:36:47,639 --> 01:36:49,880
action always was like a good discussion

1987
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:54,199
with you Kevin so I think Banning

1988
01:36:54,199 --> 01:37:03,070
accessory buildings would be difficult

1989
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,159
um where would I park my horse

1990
01:37:06,159 --> 01:37:09,080
trailer horse trailer isn't as high as a

1991
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,159
motor

1992
01:37:11,159 --> 01:37:13,239
home

1993
01:37:13,239 --> 01:37:16,000
um so are you suggesting all accessory

1994
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:17,880
buildings or just certain uses like an

1995
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,719
RV garage I think RV garages I think

1996
01:37:20,719 --> 01:37:21,880
that's really what I'm talking I'm

1997
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:23,199
talking about workshops I'm talking

1998
01:37:23,199 --> 01:37:24,880
about the these big high

1999
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,960
structures that

2000
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:30,560
um that we've allowed in the past and

2001
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:32,679
you know you know what you can you can

2002
01:37:32,679 --> 01:37:34,360
blame the city

2003
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:38,159
council but the reality is this is the

2004
01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:42,080
state doing this this is their fault and

2005
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,239
the reality is I'd rather have a horse

2006
01:37:44,239 --> 01:37:46,280
in the backyard or a workshop in the

2007
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,760
backyard than a frig RV because remember

2008
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,280
Orange Park Acres he used to shoe over

2009
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:55,520
there guess what what that's RV Heaven

2010
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:57,440
there's no horses there

2011
01:37:57,440 --> 01:37:59,639
anymore and it's not even so much the

2012
01:37:59,639 --> 01:38:03,480
horses it's that we are becoming RV

2013
01:38:03,480 --> 01:38:06,440
heaven and so I I'm not even proposing

2014
01:38:06,440 --> 01:38:08,400
we do that but I think that the reality

2015
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,719
is is they put in an RV you have animal

2016
01:38:10,719 --> 01:38:13,480
keeping so it goes on top of that or it

2017
01:38:13,480 --> 01:38:15,840
goes in the front yard and if we buck

2018
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:17,719
that we'd have the privilege of the

2019
01:38:17,719 --> 01:38:19,520
State of California saying guess what

2020
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:21,040
you people don't know how to Zone and

2021
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:22,239
they're just going to rip your zoning

2022
01:38:22,239 --> 01:38:24,040
away and I see the leac cities guy he's

2023
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:25,360
shaking his head they're shaking their

2024
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,520
head up and down up and down you don't

2025
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:29,679
think that won't

2026
01:38:29,679 --> 01:38:32,199
happen that's why we can't play around

2027
01:38:32,199 --> 01:38:33,880
as Council people and I'm not saying we

2028
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,679
do but this is a very serious situation

2029
01:38:37,679 --> 01:38:39,560
they walk up to the counter they slap it

2030
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:40,960
down say I'm building an Adu and I'm

2031
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:42,239
going to put it in my front yard because

2032
01:38:42,239 --> 01:38:45,199
in my opinion it doesn't fit in the

2033
01:38:45,199 --> 01:38:48,520
backyard so I think we really need to we

2034
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:51,920
need to be coldhearted on this and maybe

2035
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:53,920
go to our legislators I mean I know it

2036
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:55,599
doesn't help because we're on the wrong

2037
01:38:55,599 --> 01:38:59,080
side of the aisle but the reality is is

2038
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,320
that is the reality and we're trying to

2039
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,400
protect the last one we're the last

2040
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:04,719
Community like

2041
01:39:04,719 --> 01:39:07,679
this so you know a lot of people right

2042
01:39:07,679 --> 01:39:09,679
now you right now we're hearing about

2043
01:39:09,679 --> 01:39:11,239
the flight from the cities because of

2044
01:39:11,239 --> 01:39:13,760
the disasters they' become and Norco is

2045
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:15,920
a Target and by the way just so we're

2046
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:17,440
clear everybody thinks we're so

2047
01:39:17,440 --> 01:39:20,080
expensive we're cheap compared to you

2048
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,360
know what you buy a postage stamp in Los

2049
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:25,239
VES you're going to pay $2 million and

2050
01:39:25,239 --> 01:39:29,599
it's it's half the size of this room so

2051
01:39:29,599 --> 01:39:31,800
I don't know I'm not saying we do it but

2052
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,040
I think we need to be serious about this

2053
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:36,360
are we going to be RV Heaven I get the

2054
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,520
horse trailer situation maybe we need to

2055
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:42,040
do some investigation in terms of that

2056
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:45,360
but it's the adus and I and we are doing

2057
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:49,159
everything we possibly can to legalize

2058
01:39:49,159 --> 01:39:51,199
adus School District doesn't want to

2059
01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:53,599
play ball with us that's what what's

2060
01:39:53,599 --> 01:39:55,639
happening they they're like hey we need

2061
01:39:55,639 --> 01:39:57,800
that money it's not my fault there're I

2062
01:39:57,800 --> 01:39:59,040
mean I know what everybody says but

2063
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:00,639
school district is not in great

2064
01:40:00,639 --> 01:40:02,040
financial shape I don't care what

2065
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,679
anybody says right now nobody can be in

2066
01:40:04,679 --> 01:40:05,880
good shape because we don't know what's

2067
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,599
going to happen we all pretend like you

2068
01:40:08,599 --> 01:40:09,960
know nothing's happening there's no

2069
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:13,119
recession it's a crazy it's a crazy time

2070
01:40:13,119 --> 01:40:15,199
and all I'm trying to do is protect our

2071
01:40:15,199 --> 01:40:18,159
lifestyle how do we do that and how do

2072
01:40:18,159 --> 01:40:20,040
we make those hard choices I mean you

2073
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,280
know Greg you and I we I mean my first

2074
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,080
meeting we were talking about this right

2075
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,760
Berwin that was my first topic of

2076
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:30,000
discussion were were huge

2077
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:31,599
buildings

2078
01:40:31,599 --> 01:40:35,080
so we have to we have to decide how does

2079
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:38,760
this fit into our scheme of what we want

2080
01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:42,320
Norco to look like in 25 years that's

2081
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:45,639
the key we lose animals or small lot uh

2082
01:40:45,639 --> 01:40:48,679
if we lose what keeps the large

2083
01:40:48,679 --> 01:40:51,360
Lots the next councils are going to come

2084
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:53,719
along and they're just going to cut them

2085
01:40:53,719 --> 01:40:56,159
up because the way communities like ours

2086
01:40:56,159 --> 01:40:58,480
fall is they go well you know what if we

2087
01:40:58,480 --> 01:41:00,800
just reone that part that'll bring us

2088
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,000
enough property tax that we'll be able

2089
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:04,760
to take care of this part but then

2090
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:06,719
eventually you go well that part's not

2091
01:41:06,719 --> 01:41:08,159
so expensive and besides that those

2092
01:41:08,159 --> 01:41:09,800
streets are kind of old and then if you

2093
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:11,920
get districts then this District what

2094
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:14,239
they'll do is they'll say well I don't

2095
01:41:14,239 --> 01:41:15,800
care about that it's happening Riverside

2096
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:16,960
they're going to run those lines right

2097
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:19,000
through one of their own districts I

2098
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:20,480
mean you don't think that won't happen

2099
01:41:20,480 --> 01:41:23,790
in Norco

2100
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,000
so I don't mean to I just what do you

2101
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:27,199
guys want to do how do we want to

2102
01:41:27,199 --> 01:41:30,400
protect it can I yeah please thanks I'm

2103
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:31,520
I'm

2104
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:37,030
done no you're not

2105
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,560
um on your discussion

2106
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,320
item

2107
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:44,080
um explain a little more on the last

2108
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:45,880
item increase the square footage of a

2109
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:48,840
building exempt from Planning Commission

2110
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:53,119
review and what was what specifics with

2111
01:41:53,119 --> 01:41:55,080
that that and what was the planning

2112
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:57,080
commission's um

2113
01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:00,520
opinion so uh the the to give you a

2114
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:02,040
little more explanation on that right

2115
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:04,480
now um accessory buildings like

2116
01:42:04,480 --> 01:42:07,920
workshops that are no taller than 14t to

2117
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:09,840
the peak and 8ot to the wall if they're

2118
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:13,040
240 feet or less we review them over the

2119
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:14,159
counter they don't have to go to

2120
01:42:14,159 --> 01:42:17,320
Planning Commission 240 240 okay the

2121
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:19,520
recommendation here was to increase the

2122
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:23,280
exemption to for buildings up to 864 ft

2123
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,639
where we would just approve them at

2124
01:42:25,639 --> 01:42:27,800
staff level and the reason for that is

2125
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:29,920
that those are rarely an issue they're

2126
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,320
very easily able to accommodate all the

2127
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:34,719
requirements and I have not seen one

2128
01:42:34,719 --> 01:42:36,239
that has been denied by Planning

2129
01:42:36,239 --> 01:42:37,440
Commission because usually when they get

2130
01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:38,880
there they've met all the requirements

2131
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:41,360
so it would be easier for the uh members

2132
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,080
of the community to get those approved

2133
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:45,400
because they're they're smaller Planning

2134
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,840
Commission said no let's let's leave it

2135
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:49,800
as it is 240 we want those to keep

2136
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:51,560
coming to the Planning Commission that

2137
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,920
was our recommendation and um yeah

2138
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:55,880
that's okay so

2139
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:59,199
currently we're just stopping at 240 for

2140
01:42:59,199 --> 01:43:00,880
staff approval correct that's the code

2141
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:02,560
that's the way it's it's

2142
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:05,159
codified nothing against staff I concur

2143
01:43:05,159 --> 01:43:06,840
though with the Planning Commission

2144
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:09,199
recommendation only for an extra set

2145
01:43:09,199 --> 01:43:13,040
ofis yes right

2146
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:17,080
um you know like we talked earlier about

2147
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:21,000
feasibility right okay

2148
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,800
um that's all I have right now thank you

2149
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:25,960
anybody

2150
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:29,000
else do we have a motion do we have a

2151
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:30,599
thought

2152
01:43:30,599 --> 01:43:32,320
discussion we've already asked for

2153
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,229
public

2154
01:43:35,239 --> 01:43:38,000
com so if if I can kind of help guide

2155
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:40,760
the discussion a little bit um yeah so

2156
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:42,760
again this is just a discussion this is

2157
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:44,719
just uh to get some input on whether we

2158
01:43:44,719 --> 01:43:46,480
should move forward so if I can start

2159
01:43:46,480 --> 01:43:48,760
with the first item uh the first item is

2160
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:50,679
whether we should go ahead and um come

2161
01:43:50,679 --> 01:43:52,599
back with at a future time I mean this

2162
01:43:52,599 --> 01:43:54,679
is not something think it's in a hurry

2163
01:43:54,679 --> 01:43:57,840
but that we should come back with a um

2164
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,119
uh an amendment for a finding that you

2165
01:44:00,119 --> 01:44:02,800
know they can still accommodated ad

2166
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,520
you that's my question yeah so to go by

2167
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:07,599
one by one by these and see yes I love

2168
01:44:07,599 --> 01:44:11,320
that so I agree with the first

2169
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:14,800
bullet does anybody else not

2170
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:18,159
agree okay

2171
01:44:18,159 --> 01:44:21,040
okay okay so that's that's okay and the

2172
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:22,800
second one is amend the standards for

2173
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:24,480
example the commission told us to focus

2174
01:44:24,480 --> 01:44:28,199
on just um the um RV garages to where

2175
01:44:28,199 --> 01:44:31,760
you know maybe put us a limit on how how

2176
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:33,599
wide they can be and eliminate the 400

2177
01:44:33,599 --> 01:44:36,360
sare F feet additional 400 square feet

2178
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:38,080
and then can you just review almost so

2179
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:39,800
what if it's not an RV garage how large

2180
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:41,679
could someone they they could no longer

2181
01:44:41,679 --> 01:44:43,520
be, 1400 square feet right because that

2182
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,159
was only well it's not I mean again The

2183
01:44:46,159 --> 01:44:48,119
Way It Was Written it's a large vehicle

2184
01:44:48,119 --> 01:44:50,679
so it could be a large truck I mean

2185
01:44:50,679 --> 01:44:52,360
pickup truck it could be just a large

2186
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:54,639
vehicle

2187
01:44:54,639 --> 01:44:56,000
so then that would limmit all buildings

2188
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,000
to 1,000 square F feet just what's for a

2189
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:00,840
large vehicle parking building which for

2190
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:02,800
example we keep using the RV because

2191
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:04,639
that was the was the original right so

2192
01:45:04,639 --> 01:45:06,080
I'm exempting animal keeping from

2193
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:07,679
because that depends on animal units but

2194
01:45:07,679 --> 01:45:09,480
let's say I wanted to build a workshop

2195
01:45:09,480 --> 01:45:11,159
what's the size limit for my workshop

2196
01:45:11,159 --> 01:45:14,040
864 feet okay this would be just for the

2197
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:16,040
ones that are 100 1,000 square feet and

2198
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:18,239
an additional 400 square feet on the

2199
01:45:18,239 --> 01:45:22,440
side so the suggestion is to amend that

2200
01:45:22,440 --> 01:45:23,920
that type of building

2201
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,440
only to where we would no longer allow

2202
01:45:26,440 --> 01:45:28,960
an additional squ ft it's just a th000

2203
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:32,800
ft and then just make a maximum uh a

2204
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:35,040
what is it width to where it's you know

2205
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,000
it's intended only to accommodate a

2206
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,480
large vehicle and not converted into to

2207
01:45:39,480 --> 01:45:40,960
a house okay so you could have your

2208
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:42,520
animal keeping

2209
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:45,920
facility and up to 864 square feet for

2210
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,159
some other kind of Workshop out building

2211
01:45:49,159 --> 01:45:54,440
or an RV structure that would be

2212
01:45:54,440 --> 01:45:56,239
below a th000 square feet I'm assuming

2213
01:45:56,239 --> 01:45:57,639
well it would stay a thousand but you

2214
01:45:57,639 --> 01:45:59,800
would make it just more narrow so it

2215
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:02,360
could be long and skinny yeah that's

2216
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:03,800
that's kind of what would they ask us to

2217
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:05,599
consider but again okay I just want to

2218
01:46:05,599 --> 01:46:06,480
make sure I'm understanding the

2219
01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:08,080
recommendations yeah and again we would

2220
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:09,400
just come back with the recommendation

2221
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:11,239
for how we would change it if if the

2222
01:46:11,239 --> 01:46:13,119
council decides uh determines that we

2223
01:46:13,119 --> 01:46:15,360
should move forward with uh a code

2224
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:17,760
Amendment okay yeah mayor if I may so I

2225
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:19,280
think that the general direction is good

2226
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,480
we can what you decide today we'll draft

2227
01:46:21,480 --> 01:46:22,639
and then you can ultimately decide

2228
01:46:22,639 --> 01:46:27,350
tomorrow modify as you give them more

2229
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:32,119
thought any other comments

2230
01:46:32,119 --> 01:46:35,440
yeah Al on

2231
01:46:35,440 --> 01:46:39,080
that vehicle parking buildings versus

2232
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,000
the large animal keeping shelters MH

2233
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:43,880
should they be the same height what

2234
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:46,320
height are you talking about the Wall

2235
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:48,719
height the Wall height yes okay what how

2236
01:46:48,719 --> 01:46:51,280
tall are you talking about the the

2237
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,639
concern was that for a large L vehicle

2238
01:46:53,639 --> 01:46:55,840
parking building like an RV garage we

2239
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:58,159
allow Wall height of

2240
01:46:58,159 --> 01:47:01,679
18t 16 my my apologies 16 feet and then

2241
01:47:01,679 --> 01:47:04,080
ultimate Peak height at 18 feet for an

2242
01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:06,119
animal keeping structure the Wall height

2243
01:47:06,119 --> 01:47:09,480
maximum is 10 feet but but it could you

2244
01:47:09,480 --> 01:47:12,040
know kind of go up to um the peak height

2245
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:15,400
maximum at 18 so that's where the

2246
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:17,000
concern the concern was like Hey you

2247
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,239
know you allow a taller wall high for an

2248
01:47:19,239 --> 01:47:21,840
Arvy than you do for an animal keeping

2249
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:23,679
structure but there was a reason for

2250
01:47:23,679 --> 01:47:26,199
that when back in 2017 when all of this

2251
01:47:26,199 --> 01:47:30,159
was drafted so that that was the

2252
01:47:30,159 --> 01:47:33,679
conc taller the wall is on a horse

2253
01:47:33,679 --> 01:47:37,480
barn the harder the temperature control

2254
01:47:37,480 --> 01:47:40,480
for the animals is that's why most of

2255
01:47:40,480 --> 01:47:43,719
them standard are about 8 ft everywhere

2256
01:47:43,719 --> 01:47:48,080
and you go on up to 12 or M 14 then

2257
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:50,400
you're going to have a hard time

2258
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,560
controlling the the temperature like the

2259
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:55,360
cold weather it's colder in there in a

2260
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:57,480
taller building it's hotter in the

2261
01:47:57,480 --> 01:48:00,480
summertime in a taller building so I

2262
01:48:00,480 --> 01:48:01,880
couldn't imagine I mean there's some

2263
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:04,880
people probably do it but

2264
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,159
uh I couldn't imagine having one animal

2265
01:48:08,159 --> 01:48:11,480
keeping Barn 18t walls on it or 16

2266
01:48:11,480 --> 01:48:14,159
whatever Planning Commission said just

2267
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:15,960
they their consensus was just leave it

2268
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,360
as as it is if somebody needs a variance

2269
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:20,080
we can consider it on a Case by case

2270
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:21,239
basis

2271
01:48:21,239 --> 01:48:24,080
so and staff concurs with anyway that's

2272
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:26,470
my

2273
01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:29,119
nickelsworth so I'm

2274
01:48:29,119 --> 01:48:32,960
sorry Rob you're okay

2275
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:39,310
um where was

2276
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,119
it I want to let that wall height slip

2277
01:48:42,119 --> 01:48:48,229
away yet

2278
01:48:48,239 --> 01:48:51,400
um I'm still thinking about this well I

2279
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:53,119
think I'm okay on the the build an

2280
01:48:53,119 --> 01:48:56,400
exemption on the square footage um you

2281
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,400
know as Berwin said I think based on

2282
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,639
that letter um 10 foot

2283
01:49:02,639 --> 01:49:06,400
high from the the Eve for animal keeping

2284
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:10,480
is fine right

2285
01:49:10,480 --> 01:49:13,920
um and you can go up to

2286
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:17,599
16 at the ridge 18 at thege 18 on the

2287
01:49:17,599 --> 01:49:20,520
ridge all the way still an animal an yes

2288
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:24,040
you it could just kind of progress all

2289
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:26,440
right I think I'm good with all these

2290
01:49:26,440 --> 01:49:29,960
discussion items to okay

2291
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:32,679
yeah let staff move forward a little bit

2292
01:49:32,679 --> 01:49:35,080
more with the

2293
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:36,840
commission okay so it sounds like

2294
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,000
there's consensus based on a

2295
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:40,320
recommendation yeah clarification

2296
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:42,800
clarifying question you say move forward

2297
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:44,679
with the commission because they gave

2298
01:49:44,679 --> 01:49:46,280
their feedback on this I just want to

2299
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:47,480
make sure understand what you're saying

2300
01:49:47,480 --> 01:49:49,679
well yeah but I mean staff would what

2301
01:49:49,679 --> 01:49:51,520
the commission tying some of these

2302
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:53,760
discussion items together and I would

2303
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:55,320
assume that you

2304
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:58,560
would whatever these changes are run it

2305
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,320
at the Planning Commission yeah so it

2306
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:03,360
sounds like the clation that uh

2307
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,159
Catherine um council member Alman is

2308
01:50:05,159 --> 01:50:07,280
saying is move forward with with the

2309
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:08,320
recommendations of the Planning

2310
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,880
Commission and come back with a code uh

2311
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:12,639
code amendment to address all of them

2312
01:50:12,639 --> 01:50:14,800
how based on the recommendation so all

2313
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:16,000
that would come back I guess what I was

2314
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:17,440
saying then is if there's any other

2315
01:50:17,440 --> 01:50:20,760
little changes is

2316
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:22,880
discussion what has to come back in to

2317
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:26,520
run that to plan yeah it oh I see yeah

2318
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,119
the actual yes the ordinances will go

2319
01:50:28,119 --> 01:50:29,440
that in then they'll come back to us

2320
01:50:29,440 --> 01:50:32,679
with the actual fleshed out language so

2321
01:50:32,679 --> 01:50:35,040
so we're good

2322
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,239
okay okay moving

2323
01:50:37,239 --> 01:50:39,040
on thank you

2324
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:40,360
[Music]

2325
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:43,920
um mayor if I may yes might be if if you

2326
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:46,880
I would suggest we take item D next

2327
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:48,119
since I know we have you have a

2328
01:50:48,119 --> 01:50:49,840
colleague from the mayor from City of

2329
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:52,960
camesa here all right so we will jump to

2330
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:56,199
d uh consider the city's city of Norco

2331
01:50:56,199 --> 01:50:57,440
current participation League of

2332
01:50:57,440 --> 01:50:58,719
California cities and future

2333
01:50:58,719 --> 01:51:00,239
participation in California contract

2334
01:51:00,239 --> 01:51:01,239
cities

2335
01:51:01,239 --> 01:51:03,639
Association Lori thank you mayor so this

2336
01:51:03,639 --> 01:51:06,079
was brought up at a prior on June 5th

2337
01:51:06,079 --> 01:51:08,159
council meeting to come back to you for

2338
01:51:08,159 --> 01:51:11,159
a discussion so we've provided you with

2339
01:51:11,159 --> 01:51:12,920
some information about both about the

2340
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:15,520
league of California cities the members

2341
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:17,560
um the member benefits that we receive

2342
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:20,119
the du's amounts and so forth so and we

2343
01:51:20,119 --> 01:51:22,560
do have tonight our um our regional

2344
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:24,360
public affairs manager Jesse Ramirez is

2345
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:26,760
here and then yeah I just learned

2346
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:28,960
tonight Linda Molina from the city of

2347
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:30,880
camesa is here tonight so they're here

2348
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:32,760
on this item so really we're looking for

2349
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:35,800
direction from you on this item with

2350
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:37,079
regard to our membership in the league

2351
01:51:37,079 --> 01:51:39,079
of cities I provided some comments to

2352
01:51:39,079 --> 01:51:41,760
you in the staff report and then also as

2353
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:43,800
part of that discussion you it was um

2354
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:45,599
direction to also for you to discuss

2355
01:51:45,599 --> 01:51:47,560
contract cities so contract City

2356
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,840
separate organization about 80 members

2357
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:51,280
most of those members virtually all

2358
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:53,920
those members are also cities members

2359
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:56,119
they're really focused on cities that

2360
01:51:56,119 --> 01:51:58,000
have that Contract Services model like

2361
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,560
we do here um and they provide other

2362
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:04,599
sorts of levels of of advocacy and

2363
01:52:04,599 --> 01:52:07,199
support to cities that provide Contract

2364
01:52:07,199 --> 01:52:09,320
Services through the contract model the

2365
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:10,840
Lakewood plan if you will to the

2366
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:13,040
old-timers that's what it was called so

2367
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:14,400
with that we're just looking for your

2368
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:19,040
direction and discussion great um so

2369
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:20,480
I'll just bring it to council for

2370
01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:22,159
comments I guess because I was the one

2371
01:52:22,159 --> 01:52:23,880
that kind of started this ball rolling

2372
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:27,199
and the reason I did is uh I was having

2373
01:52:27,199 --> 01:52:28,440
some issues with some of the things that

2374
01:52:28,440 --> 01:52:29,960
were occurring but a lot of those issues

2375
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:31,400
have now gone

2376
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:38,320
away um the new chair of the state folks

2377
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,079
uh is actually from Ranch kukamonga we

2378
01:52:40,079 --> 01:52:43,599
had a we have a very like interest in

2379
01:52:43,599 --> 01:52:45,840
that both of our cities are trying to

2380
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:48,400
figure out a way to fairly receive some

2381
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:51,000
of the funding coming from uh the

2382
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:52,840
warehousing and the issue with the

2383
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:54,480
warehousing of course is that for

2384
01:52:54,480 --> 01:52:55,880
whatever reason they kind of pulled the

2385
01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:57,520
rug out from under us we get the trucks

2386
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:01,079
they get the money and so that was

2387
01:53:01,079 --> 01:53:03,000
extremely upsetting but what most upset

2388
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:05,520
me was the fact that the uh League of

2389
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:08,119
California cities we actually had a

2390
01:53:08,119 --> 01:53:09,960
decision to go forward with trying to

2391
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:12,599
make it more fair and what happened was

2392
01:53:12,599 --> 01:53:15,280
the cities that had the warehouses and

2393
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:16,920
were making all this money they went

2394
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:19,599
outside the league and there were no

2395
01:53:19,599 --> 01:53:21,679
ramifications and they lobbied actually

2396
01:53:21,679 --> 01:53:25,320
against the position of our city um then

2397
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:27,800
there was sort of a purge of a lot of

2398
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:31,960
the folks that um were from our region

2399
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:35,199
and there was a purge at the state level

2400
01:53:35,199 --> 01:53:39,320
a lot of that has now changed um we

2401
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:44,400
Aaron sassy was was a pretty outstanding

2402
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:48,199
um uh Regional rep for us and this last

2403
01:53:48,199 --> 01:53:49,719
meeting I have to say was really

2404
01:53:49,719 --> 01:53:51,520
excellent I now kind of wish everybody

2405
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:53,599
had been there uh it was really put

2406
01:53:53,599 --> 01:53:56,360
together well I really appreciated it I

2407
01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:58,239
sense there's a big change coming I had

2408
01:53:58,239 --> 01:54:03,280
a long talk with um the rep that if

2409
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:06,159
that's the rep for rev and tax revenue

2410
01:54:06,159 --> 01:54:09,280
and Taxation um there's a new direction

2411
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:11,440
that appears we can go is the Inland

2412
01:54:11,440 --> 01:54:14,679
Empire um these are all very interesting

2413
01:54:14,679 --> 01:54:16,679
changes the reason that I thought about

2414
01:54:16,679 --> 01:54:18,800
maybe going to contract cities is the

2415
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:23,599
fact that contract cities seems to be

2416
01:54:23,599 --> 01:54:28,320
more in touch with what this housing is

2417
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:30,239
really doing to cities it's destroying

2418
01:54:30,239 --> 01:54:33,639
them and it's it's it's literally C it's

2419
01:54:33,639 --> 01:54:35,960
literally giving developers a license to

2420
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:38,199
steal and we're facing it right now in

2421
01:54:38,199 --> 01:54:40,280
the city of Norco and

2422
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:43,520
so that said

2423
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:47,800
the the contract cities are pretty weak

2424
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:50,560
at the moment in the Inland Empire I'm

2425
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,040
also sensing that Within the Inland

2426
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:56,480
Empire there is a new Strength um in

2427
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,560
terms of the cities that are coming

2428
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:01,520
together there's a real frustration with

2429
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:03,159
how Northern California is kind of

2430
01:55:03,159 --> 01:55:07,159
pushing us around so my personal opinion

2431
01:55:07,159 --> 01:55:09,880
is is I think we need to and and not

2432
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:11,760
that it's me but it looks like I'm about

2433
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:13,360
ready to be the chair of revent tax

2434
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:15,639
which means I will have the ability to

2435
01:55:15,639 --> 01:55:18,639
really tune get in touch and in tune

2436
01:55:18,639 --> 01:55:21,000
with ranch kukamonga and I'm very

2437
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:25,880
pleased uh that that may happen um I

2438
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:28,280
also think let's just face it League of

2439
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:30,400
cities the most important part A lot of

2440
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,119
times of the conferences is that we're

2441
01:55:32,119 --> 01:55:35,159
connecting with the other cities um I

2442
01:55:35,159 --> 01:55:36,840
know a lot of the Cities now that have

2443
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:38,639
left that I was talking to with before

2444
01:55:38,639 --> 01:55:40,360
are now coming back to the league of

2445
01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:44,239
cities and so with that said um I'm I'm

2446
01:55:44,239 --> 01:55:45,800
open to discussions and that kind of

2447
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:47,960
thing but I just wanted to to let you

2448
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:50,280
know that my position is I think at

2449
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:51,840
least for the coming year we need to

2450
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:54,320
stay with the Le with the league um do

2451
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:59,069
we have any comments or anything

2452
01:55:59,079 --> 01:56:02,800
questions okay um would would you mind

2453
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:06,040
if we invited up uh our league

2454
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:09,520
representative or our our Inland Empire

2455
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:11,480
chairman I don't know well I just want

2456
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:14,800
to make sure I can come on up and then

2457
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:18,510
we'll have public comments after

2458
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:21,239
that long time no see thank you for this

2459
01:56:21,239 --> 01:56:24,199
opportunity uh my name is Linda Molina

2460
01:56:24,199 --> 01:56:27,719
I'm here from a city much like uh Norco

2461
01:56:27,719 --> 01:56:29,840
calesa it's a rural City we're just a

2462
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:31,760
little bit smaller by population and

2463
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:34,599
square footage square miles I should say

2464
01:56:34,599 --> 01:56:36,920
but I'm really here um as president of

2465
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:39,800
Riverside County Cal cities and here to

2466
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:42,400
talk to the value of Cal cities this

2467
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:44,920
year has been so challenging every year

2468
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,440
we have at least, 1500 new bills good

2469
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:50,320
ones bad ones and it's up to the city's

2470
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:54,000
representatives to sorted out and work

2471
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:56,239
together and I think this year more than

2472
01:56:56,239 --> 01:56:59,520
any other year prior Partnerships are

2473
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,480
key getting information out is key and

2474
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:05,679
so we have as president of ight County

2475
01:57:05,679 --> 01:57:07,000
and when I heard that there was some

2476
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:09,239
discussion for Norco I thought it

2477
01:57:09,239 --> 01:57:12,679
prudent to come and show my support and

2478
01:57:12,679 --> 01:57:15,040
re reiterate how important it is to for

2479
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:19,360
our cities for funding success for um

2480
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:21,280
getting information out and and

2481
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:24,239
encouraging all members of of the city

2482
01:57:24,239 --> 01:57:26,480
not just councils and thank you mayor

2483
01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:28,119
bash for for letting me talk here in

2484
01:57:28,119 --> 01:57:31,239
Council and City staff and Community I

2485
01:57:31,239 --> 01:57:34,840
appreciate this but um funding funding

2486
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:38,239
success and education and and awareness

2487
01:57:38,239 --> 01:57:40,960
is key and so I think what we've done in

2488
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:43,960
Riverside county is we have this year re

2489
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:46,400
reached out to San Bernardino Division

2490
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:47,880
and Mountain cities division we're

2491
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:50,280
looking at Imperial County LA and Orange

2492
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:52,639
County we're all in the same boat we all

2493
01:57:52,639 --> 01:57:54,599
have core issues we're all uniquely

2494
01:57:54,599 --> 01:57:58,159
different but the key thing is sorting

2495
01:57:58,159 --> 01:58:00,560
through the bad laws and the good laws

2496
01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:01,880
and supporting each other in that

2497
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:03,880
respect and so I thought it prudent for

2498
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:05,520
me to come here tonight to tell you

2499
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:08,079
there is a value in Cal cities it's not

2500
01:58:08,079 --> 01:58:09,760
a perfect system just like any

2501
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:12,239
everything else but um it's worked it's

2502
01:58:12,239 --> 01:58:14,599
working well in Riverside County and I

2503
01:58:14,599 --> 01:58:17,079
hope that you will continue to support

2504
01:58:17,079 --> 01:58:19,639
Riverside County excuse me there are

2505
01:58:19,639 --> 01:58:22,960
seven policy committees we encourage

2506
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:25,239
all cities to participate in those it

2507
01:58:25,239 --> 01:58:27,800
gives you a just like a council has five

2508
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:29,639
or seven different perspectives and you

2509
01:58:29,639 --> 01:58:32,079
make a decision as a whole the policy

2510
01:58:32,079 --> 01:58:33,560
committees are designed for the same

2511
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,000
thing you give your input and then the

2512
01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:37,840
the the board hopefully listens and and

2513
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,159
we move forward and we're successful and

2514
01:58:40,159 --> 01:58:41,880
so I think we've done well this year the

2515
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:45,000
evil housing laws are just that um

2516
01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:47,199
funding is is being challenged at the

2517
01:58:47,199 --> 01:58:48,599
from the federal level all the way down

2518
01:58:48,599 --> 01:58:51,520
to the city level and um Partnerships

2519
01:58:51,520 --> 01:58:53,079
are are what working and getting

2520
01:58:53,079 --> 01:58:55,639
information out so we have uh member

2521
01:58:55,639 --> 01:58:58,079
meetings every other month we encourage

2522
01:58:58,079 --> 01:58:59,599
council members to come we encourage

2523
01:58:59,599 --> 01:59:01,000
encourage city managers we have

2524
01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:03,280
trainings this is this the strength of

2525
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,800
Kel cities is the trainings new elected

2526
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:09,679
trainings Brown act ethics um those are

2527
01:59:09,679 --> 01:59:12,159
key for successful for new for newly

2528
01:59:12,159 --> 01:59:14,800
electeds I remember when I first um got

2529
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:16,599
on Council it was it there was a

2530
01:59:16,599 --> 01:59:19,079
learning curve and and you don't really

2531
01:59:19,079 --> 01:59:20,840
realize what the job is until you get in

2532
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:23,119
that seat so so I hope that you'll

2533
01:59:23,119 --> 01:59:26,239
consider keeping uh strength in Cal

2534
01:59:26,239 --> 01:59:28,599
cities by participating and joining us

2535
01:59:28,599 --> 01:59:30,639
at our member cities I invite you invite

2536
01:59:30,639 --> 01:59:33,239
you all to come if you haven't been um

2537
01:59:33,239 --> 01:59:34,960
I'm I'm president this year of Riverside

2538
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:37,360
County so I'm very proud to do so um

2539
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:40,000
it's a passion for me to mainly get

2540
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,480
information out and get input from every

2541
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:44,159
city that's the only way we're going to

2542
01:59:44,159 --> 01:59:46,800
succeed is to have our voice heard and

2543
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:49,960
so I'm here just just to say that please

2544
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:52,719
um keep our our our County Strong

2545
01:59:52,719 --> 01:59:55,599
and um and be active I know Jesse has a

2546
01:59:55,599 --> 01:59:58,800
few things to say as well but um that

2547
01:59:58,800 --> 02:00:00,159
was the most important thing that I

2548
02:00:00,159 --> 02:00:02,079
wanted to to share is how important it

2549
02:00:02,079 --> 02:00:03,760
is for us to have our voice heard

2550
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:06,480
because we have a lot to say thank you

2551
02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:07,639
thank

2552
02:00:07,639 --> 02:00:12,040
you hi Jesse good evening uh mayor and

2553
02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:13,719
council members uh thank you for your

2554
02:00:13,719 --> 02:00:16,119
time staff thank you for your time uh I

2555
02:00:16,119 --> 02:00:17,280
just want to give you guys a quick

2556
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:20,920
overview and I want to start um uh at

2557
02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:22,800
this housing conversation with Adu since

2558
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:25,800
it was fresh um we hired a housing

2559
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:27,960
lobbyist shortly after I was hired there

2560
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:30,440
in November uh he joined our team in

2561
02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:33,040
January and he hit the road running um

2562
02:00:33,040 --> 02:00:35,920
we have been playing defense uh as you

2563
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:37,560
can imagine in Sacramento with some of

2564
02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:39,639
these housing laws coming through but

2565
02:00:39,639 --> 02:00:41,719
folks we have some real serious laws

2566
02:00:41,719 --> 02:00:44,280
coming out um currently that we're

2567
02:00:44,280 --> 02:00:48,320
opposing um ab1 1885 which uh enacts

2568
02:00:48,320 --> 02:00:50,639
Builder remedy for cities who haven't uh

2569
02:00:50,639 --> 02:00:52,639
had their housing element

2570
02:00:52,639 --> 02:00:54,679
uh approved is a big one they're

2571
02:00:54,679 --> 02:00:56,920
changing the housing element our housing

2572
02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:58,679
lobbyists worked with the Senate to

2573
02:00:58,679 --> 02:01:01,960
provide them with information on why hcd

2574
02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:04,440
should be audited and that's happening I

2575
02:01:04,440 --> 02:01:06,440
mean we're doing some really cool stuff

2576
02:01:06,440 --> 02:01:08,480
uh at the state level uh in and really

2577
02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:10,079
trying to protect that local zoning

2578
02:01:10,079 --> 02:01:11,560
control so I just wanted to start off

2579
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:13,560
with that um I do want to give you a

2580
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:16,400
quick uh just overview of Kel City's uh

2581
02:01:16,400 --> 02:01:18,040
as it is I'm going to break this down

2582
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:20,119
into three different areas education

2583
02:01:20,119 --> 02:01:23,040
advocacy and then our political side um

2584
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:25,119
our advocacy uh we have a legislative

2585
02:01:25,119 --> 02:01:27,199
director named Jason Ry and we have six

2586
02:01:27,199 --> 02:01:28,760
lobbyists at the state level that are

2587
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:31,719
here to serve you um those areas include

2588
02:01:31,719 --> 02:01:34,079
Housing Development Public Safety power

2589
02:01:34,079 --> 02:01:35,360
energy and

2590
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:37,560
transportation environmental Tax and

2591
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:39,760
Revenue governance transparency and

2592
02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:42,159
Labor Relations uh and this year at our

2593
02:01:42,159 --> 02:01:44,840
legislative Summit our our uh lobbyist

2594
02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:46,639
did a really good job of connecting our

2595
02:01:46,639 --> 02:01:48,400
delegation to some of those members on

2596
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:50,760
key committees uh and so we had a really

2597
02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:52,360
good conversation with those Folks up in

2598
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,119
Sacramento around some of our regional

2599
02:01:54,119 --> 02:01:56,840
issues uh education just for next year

2600
02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:59,440
already we have a total of eight events

2601
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:01,880
on the calendar uh Mayors and Council

2602
02:02:01,880 --> 02:02:03,880
Academy a city manager conference a

2603
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:05,960
planning Commissioners conference Public

2604
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:08,480
Works officers Institute uh city leaders

2605
02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:10,480
Summit which is our advocacy day in

2606
02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:12,480
Sacramento uh our city attorneys

2607
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:14,679
conference and our annual conference

2608
02:02:14,679 --> 02:02:16,639
those conferences are outside of our

2609
02:02:16,639 --> 02:02:19,639
division uh conferences we have a total

2610
02:02:19,639 --> 02:02:22,119
of like M Linda mentioned six division

2611
02:02:22,119 --> 02:02:24,199
meetings per year and we're adding two

2612
02:02:24,199 --> 02:02:26,040
more next year one of them is going to

2613
02:02:26,040 --> 02:02:27,960
be a workshop for planning Commissioners

2614
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:30,320
to better understand the laws and better

2615
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:31,760
understand their responsibilities as

2616
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:34,480
count as as planning Commissioners uh a

2617
02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:36,320
lot of folks uh in different areas of

2618
02:02:36,320 --> 02:02:37,679
the state their planning Commissioners

2619
02:02:37,679 --> 02:02:39,320
are not dealing with the types of

2620
02:02:39,320 --> 02:02:40,719
projects that we're dealing with here in

2621
02:02:40,719 --> 02:02:43,199
Riverside County and so that was super

2622
02:02:43,199 --> 02:02:45,000
important to them and so I've added that

2623
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:47,280
I've gotten approval from Kel cities to

2624
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:48,760
do that within the division so we'll be

2625
02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:51,880
doing that next year as well um the last

2626
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:53,560
last aspect that I wanted to discuss was

2627
02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:55,639
the political arm of Kel cities as you

2628
02:02:55,639 --> 02:02:57,199
all know we have a fundraiser every

2629
02:02:57,199 --> 02:02:58,800
division has a fundraiser once a year

2630
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:01,239
for City pack this pack goes toward

2631
02:03:01,239 --> 02:03:03,400
ballot measures that are directly

2632
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:05,480
affecting negatively affecting local

2633
02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:07,920
control um this year we had a big win

2634
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:10,000
with the cbrt ballot measure the Supreme

2635
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:11,880
Court ruled it out uh but that would

2636
02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:13,960
have uh really impacted cities

2637
02:03:13,960 --> 02:03:15,639
negatively from a financial planning

2638
02:03:15,639 --> 02:03:17,800
process as well as a collection of fees

2639
02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:20,400
process Kel cities uh approached this in

2640
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:22,199
a three-way approach we did a legal

2641
02:03:22,199 --> 02:03:24,639
Amicus brief where we fought it legally

2642
02:03:24,639 --> 02:03:26,639
we did a legislative approach where we

2643
02:03:26,639 --> 02:03:30,320
submitted ACA 13 and and put out a uh

2644
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:32,280
opposition ballot measure and then we

2645
02:03:32,280 --> 02:03:34,239
ran a PR campaign where we submitted

2646
02:03:34,239 --> 02:03:37,320
over 220 resolutions from cities across

2647
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:39,760
the state opposing this ballot measure

2648
02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:41,880
um as you may have heard uh at our last

2649
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:43,639
meeting and I think mayor bash alluded

2650
02:03:43,639 --> 02:03:45,840
to it we got an update from our DA's

2651
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:47,599
office as well as Sheriff bianco's

2652
02:03:47,599 --> 02:03:50,679
office on uh prop 36 this is the

2653
02:03:50,679 --> 02:03:52,280
District Attorney's ballot measure that

2654
02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:55,079
is uh aiming to repeal some aspects of

2655
02:03:55,079 --> 02:03:58,199
Prop 47 Kel City's board did vote to

2656
02:03:58,199 --> 02:04:00,239
support that measure and so we we're

2657
02:04:00,239 --> 02:04:01,800
going to be the face of that campaign

2658
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:04,440
here in Riverside County um Kel cities

2659
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:07,840
has again an aspect of of uh in kind

2660
02:04:07,840 --> 02:04:10,040
donation through my time uh that I will

2661
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:12,559
put forth toward that that effort and so

2662
02:04:12,559 --> 02:04:14,159
um those are three the three advocacy

2663
02:04:14,159 --> 02:04:17,440
areas that we really approach um our our

2664
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:20,920
legislative and and uh I guess

2665
02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:23,360
policymaking decisions from so I'd be

2666
02:04:23,360 --> 02:04:24,880
happy to answer any questions in the

2667
02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:26,920
report um but that's kind of a general

2668
02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:29,440
update on on how Kel City operates and

2669
02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:30,679
what we're doing here in Riverside

2670
02:04:30,679 --> 02:04:32,520
County in addition to that I want to

2671
02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:34,679
throw one last thing out there we we as

2672
02:04:34,679 --> 02:04:36,880
as Linda mentioned we this is the first

2673
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:38,320
year we've actually partnered with

2674
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:41,480
sanino County and Mountain division um

2675
02:04:41,480 --> 02:04:43,800
our strategy going in and this was uh a

2676
02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:45,960
lot a lot to do with Linda's leadership

2677
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:48,320
here was to put all of these divisions

2678
02:04:48,320 --> 02:04:50,320
not together as one division but to talk

2679
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:52,960
about similar issues warehousing

2680
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:55,679
warehousing sales tax being one of them

2681
02:04:55,679 --> 02:04:59,040
um and what we've learned is that in the

2682
02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:01,840
first meeting we had over 220 attendees

2683
02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:04,159
housing homelessness warehousing these

2684
02:05:04,159 --> 02:05:05,880
are all issues that impact us

2685
02:05:05,880 --> 02:05:07,320
differently than other areas of the

2686
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:09,239
state and so being able to put the

2687
02:05:09,239 --> 02:05:11,639
numbers together through Kel cities has

2688
02:05:11,639 --> 02:05:13,960
been very important with that being said

2689
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:15,920
we also have an incoming president from

2690
02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:19,400
rancha kukamonga um council member Lynn

2691
02:05:19,400 --> 02:05:21,800
um gosh dang it I'm forgetting ly

2692
02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:23,880
Kennedy thank you um she'll be our

2693
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:25,639
incoming president and so we'll have a

2694
02:05:25,639 --> 02:05:27,480
regional president and I'm really hoping

2695
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:29,199
that uh between the collaboration of

2696
02:05:29,199 --> 02:05:31,119
both of those divisions we really move

2697
02:05:31,119 --> 02:05:33,960
some some good policy forward next year

2698
02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:37,840
so thank you do anybody have any

2699
02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:40,760
questions okay thank you sir yep um

2700
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:42,760
moving to public comments I have no

2701
02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:44,719
public comments mayor bring back to

2702
02:05:44,719 --> 02:05:52,109
councel

2703
02:05:52,119 --> 02:05:53,559
well it would be my suggestion we stay

2704
02:05:53,559 --> 02:05:54,880
with League of cities at least for the

2705
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:56,679
next year um one of the things I forgot

2706
02:05:56,679 --> 02:05:58,639
to mention was the fact that for the

2707
02:05:58,639 --> 02:06:00,159
first time we're linking with three

2708
02:06:00,159 --> 02:06:01,920
other counties that has never happened

2709
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:05,480
before that's a huge positive step um

2710
02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:07,079
and that's while acknowledging maybe the

2711
02:06:07,079 --> 02:06:08,840
last year was not the strongest year

2712
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:10,880
that we've had because of the

2713
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:13,639
transition but I would also sort of want

2714
02:06:13,639 --> 02:06:15,880
to wait on the contract cities simply

2715
02:06:15,880 --> 02:06:18,320
because they're really just sort of

2716
02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:22,920
establishing in um Riverside County

2717
02:06:22,920 --> 02:06:24,480
um I don't think they have that many

2718
02:06:24,480 --> 02:06:27,360
cities and I think they're also kind of

2719
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:29,599
reeling because the Three Counties

2720
02:06:29,599 --> 02:06:31,280
coming together has never happened

2721
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:33,559
before so it would

2722
02:06:33,559 --> 02:06:36,239
be my recommendation that we go ahead

2723
02:06:36,239 --> 02:06:38,320
and we we stick it out for another year

2724
02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:39,639
and just kind of see what happens

2725
02:06:39,639 --> 02:06:41,599
because I really do see some positive

2726
02:06:41,599 --> 02:06:46,629
things

2727
02:06:46,639 --> 02:06:51,000
happening do we that's a motion oh go

2728
02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:52,199
for my next

2729
02:06:52,199 --> 02:06:54,320
yeah we're going to be discussing uh the

2730
02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:55,920
Supreme Court decision on homelessness

2731
02:06:55,920 --> 02:06:57,880
and homelessness encampments uh we're

2732
02:06:57,880 --> 02:06:59,239
going to have a really good panel to

2733
02:06:59,239 --> 02:07:00,760
discuss that so I encourage all of you

2734
02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:02,199
to come out to that it'll be September

2735
02:07:02,199 --> 02:07:04,239
9th I'll be sending out the flyer early

2736
02:07:04,239 --> 02:07:05,800
next week thank

2737
02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:08,920
you anyway that's a motion to stay with

2738
02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:11,360
the league of cities for the next year

2739
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:13,480
and uh kind of just keep an eye on the

2740
02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:15,239
contract cities and see how they grow

2741
02:07:15,239 --> 02:07:17,280
and and I'd like to see how this Tri

2742
02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:19,679
County thing works by the way another

2743
02:07:19,679 --> 02:07:22,239
piece of that is that we are position in

2744
02:07:22,239 --> 02:07:24,880
ourselves in terms of the tech bridge

2745
02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:26,520
and the reason I'm bringing up the tech

2746
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:29,760
bridge is because we are the center it's

2747
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:31,679
not something that can be taken from us

2748
02:07:31,679 --> 02:07:34,760
by an education U Consortium although

2749
02:07:34,760 --> 02:07:37,480
parts of it are a little bit but we are

2750
02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:40,520
in the center of it and I I am hoping

2751
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:42,199
that we might be able to within the

2752
02:07:42,199 --> 02:07:45,719
Norco Corona maybe the Eastville area we

2753
02:07:45,719 --> 02:07:47,760
might be able to utilize League of

2754
02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:49,440
cities to help us strengthen the tech

2755
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:51,679
Bridge nobody else has what we have have

2756
02:07:51,679 --> 02:07:53,760
in our city so we're not just a one

2757
02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:55,360
horse Town we're not just a sports

2758
02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:57,719
Capital we could actually be a technical

2759
02:07:57,719 --> 02:08:00,079
hub for the entire Riverside sanino

2760
02:08:00,079 --> 02:08:03,880
County so it be nice to have help to do

2761
02:08:03,880 --> 02:08:08,669
that thank

2762
02:08:08,679 --> 02:08:27,149
okay please vote

2763
02:08:27,159 --> 02:08:29,480
and motion passes unanimous thank you

2764
02:08:29,480 --> 02:08:31,599
thank you

2765
02:08:31,599 --> 02:08:35,679
guys uh moving back to does can we keep

2766
02:08:35,679 --> 02:08:37,880
going do we need a break are we all

2767
02:08:37,880 --> 02:08:40,599
right okay moving on to

2768
02:08:40,599 --> 02:08:43,159
6C um uh before you begin I'd like to

2769
02:08:43,159 --> 02:08:44,920
recuse myself I have a conflict of

2770
02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:46,760
interest do the due to the location of

2771
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:48,199
my personal

2772
02:08:48,199 --> 02:08:50,119
property oh you going to miss all the

2773
02:08:50,119 --> 02:09:07,750
fun

2774
02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:10,679
so first have a staff report yes uh good

2775
02:09:10,679 --> 02:09:13,719
evening Council this agenda item 6C is

2776
02:09:13,719 --> 02:09:16,320
um a request for an extension of 12

2777
02:09:16,320 --> 02:09:19,400
month extension of time to record uh the

2778
02:09:19,400 --> 02:09:22,360
final map for uh tenative partial map 9

2779
02:09:22,360 --> 02:09:24,079
excuse me

2780
02:09:24,079 --> 02:09:26,800
37939 with a new expiration dat of

2781
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:29,760
September 7th 2025 as the council may

2782
02:09:29,760 --> 02:09:33,639
recall this um map was approved in

2783
02:09:33,639 --> 02:09:34,760
conjunction with the mixed use

2784
02:09:34,760 --> 02:09:37,800
development back in September 7th 2021

2785
02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:39,400
the map was approved for two years and

2786
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:43,159
would expire unless it's extended uh

2787
02:09:43,159 --> 02:09:45,239
last year uh which was the expiration

2788
02:09:45,239 --> 02:09:48,079
date of September 7th 2023 uh last year

2789
02:09:48,079 --> 02:09:50,639
the council granted um the first of six

2790
02:09:50,639 --> 02:09:53,760
allowed uh map extensions uh with a new

2791
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:56,079
expiration date of September 7th

2792
02:09:56,079 --> 02:09:58,480
2024 the um request before you this

2793
02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:02,559
evening is to extend um that date to uh

2794
02:10:02,559 --> 02:10:04,639
20 September 7th

2795
02:10:04,639 --> 02:10:07,000
2025 uh and staff is recommending

2796
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:11,320
approval uh the applicant is here and um

2797
02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:12,679
we can answer any questions that the

2798
02:10:12,679 --> 02:10:14,599
commission may have I also also point

2799
02:10:14,599 --> 02:10:16,920
out that Erica Vega lus attorney is also

2800
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:18,719
here to um assist in answer any

2801
02:10:18,719 --> 02:10:20,320
questions should they come up with that

2802
02:10:20,320 --> 02:10:22,199
I will conclude and answer

2803
02:10:22,199 --> 02:10:23,360
uh any questions thank you do we have

2804
02:10:23,360 --> 02:10:24,760
any questions

2805
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:29,990
bwin

2806
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:33,880
Greg all right Robin I have none any

2807
02:10:33,880 --> 02:10:36,079
public

2808
02:10:36,079 --> 02:10:39,400
comments I have no public comment mayor

2809
02:10:39,400 --> 02:10:40,760
closing public comments bringing you

2810
02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:41,599
back

2811
02:10:41,599 --> 02:10:47,549
for motion comments

2812
02:10:47,559 --> 02:10:49,639
discussion seeing done I make a motion

2813
02:10:49,639 --> 02:10:58,669
to approve

2814
02:10:58,679 --> 02:11:23,350
please vote

2815
02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:33,270
GRE your supposed to CH is

2816
02:11:33,280 --> 02:11:42,350
it I'm pushing

2817
02:11:42,360 --> 02:11:46,480
it I but maybe it's telling me

2818
02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:52,069
different motion passes thank you

2819
02:11:52,079 --> 02:11:54,159
so moving on to seven I think I covered

2820
02:11:54,159 --> 02:11:55,719
them all right jumping back I got them

2821
02:11:55,719 --> 02:11:58,000
all yep all right moving on to seven

2822
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:00,040
public hearings presentation for public

2823
02:12:00,040 --> 02:12:02,880
hearing items staff report presentation

2824
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:05,400
Council questions of Staff uh open

2825
02:12:05,400 --> 02:12:08,400
public hearing um public hearing is to

2826
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:10,599
open uh then we will close the public

2827
02:12:10,599 --> 02:12:12,040
hearing I will state that it's going to

2828
02:12:12,040 --> 02:12:40,229
close Council discussion and action so

2829
02:12:40,239 --> 02:12:41,760
call upon director

2830
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:44,239
freed hi good evening mayor and council

2831
02:12:44,239 --> 02:12:48,239
members uh we're here tonight to um

2832
02:12:48,239 --> 02:12:49,960
recommend amendments to our purchasing

2833
02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:51,960
ordinances in order to meet our

2834
02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:53,599
regulatory

2835
02:12:53,599 --> 02:12:56,400
requirements uh related to our recycling

2836
02:12:56,400 --> 02:12:58,440
purchasing and federal requirements

2837
02:12:58,440 --> 02:13:01,480
through um the office of uh management

2838
02:13:01,480 --> 02:13:04,960
and budget uh the state requirements

2839
02:13:04,960 --> 02:13:08,520
basically uh requires us to uh procure

2840
02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:10,440
recycled product and is setting

2841
02:13:10,440 --> 02:13:15,000
standards and uh specifications on on um

2842
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:16,880
our paper products and as well as some

2843
02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:19,920
organic uh products and the Office of

2844
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:22,599
Management and budget uh is announcing

2845
02:13:22,599 --> 02:13:25,440
um changes to the uniform grants

2846
02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:29,520
guidance and with that um we also uh

2847
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:33,280
will be uh notifying staff of those

2848
02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:37,159
requirements uh once this uh passes um

2849
02:13:37,159 --> 02:13:43,040
our our uh policy or sorry excuse me our

2850
02:13:43,040 --> 02:13:46,360
um our city ordinance currently doesn't

2851
02:13:46,360 --> 02:13:47,880
require changes for the federal

2852
02:13:47,880 --> 02:13:50,000
requirements because we uh have a line

2853
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:52,119
just saying that we're going to comply

2854
02:13:52,119 --> 02:13:55,079
with those requirements but the Recycled

2855
02:13:55,079 --> 02:13:56,800
product we don't have that specific

2856
02:13:56,800 --> 02:13:58,960
language in there so we are recommended

2857
02:13:58,960 --> 02:14:01,960
to add that section for the Recycled

2858
02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:05,079
purchasing and with that if you have any

2859
02:14:05,079 --> 02:14:07,079
questions Council I have any questions

2860
02:14:07,079 --> 02:14:09,390
for

2861
02:14:09,400 --> 02:14:11,960
LTE

2862
02:14:11,960 --> 02:14:15,760
Robin LTE what state agency enforces

2863
02:14:15,760 --> 02:14:18,199
this policy uh this is coming from

2864
02:14:18,199 --> 02:14:21,679
California um State be and it's uh we

2865
02:14:21,679 --> 02:14:23,719
we're participating with the Cal recycle

2866
02:14:23,719 --> 02:14:25,679
Grant and that's part of the requirement

2867
02:14:25,679 --> 02:14:28,719
through that Grant um requesting the

2868
02:14:28,719 --> 02:14:31,040
requirements with that and our public

2869
02:14:31,040 --> 02:14:32,840
works department is the one

2870
02:14:32,840 --> 02:14:36,400
administering that Grant and then how or

2871
02:14:36,400 --> 02:14:39,800
when are audits for compliance

2872
02:14:39,800 --> 02:14:42,239
done uh since Public Works would be

2873
02:14:42,239 --> 02:14:45,559
required to um report on some of the

2874
02:14:45,559 --> 02:14:47,880
numbers on this so that I don't have the

2875
02:14:47,880 --> 02:14:50,800
specifics but we could uh look into that

2876
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:52,679
to to see when those requirements will

2877
02:14:52,679 --> 02:14:54,599
be so essentially since we've applied

2878
02:14:54,599 --> 02:14:55,960
for the grant we have to meet the

2879
02:14:55,960 --> 02:14:57,920
requirements and then we

2880
02:14:57,920 --> 02:15:01,159
self-report I I I don't know the the

2881
02:15:01,159 --> 02:15:03,880
details of the grant itself but I could

2882
02:15:03,880 --> 02:15:08,800
look into that okay thank you

2883
02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:13,229
Catherine

2884
02:15:13,239 --> 02:15:15,280
Greg you're not going to be forced to

2885
02:15:15,280 --> 02:15:20,400
use single ply are you um it says 45% uh

2886
02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:26,870
recycled climb for toilet paper

2887
02:15:26,880 --> 02:15:30,910
okay I had to

2888
02:15:30,920 --> 02:15:34,870
S

2889
02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:37,840
bwin right

2890
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:40,800
um public hearing is now

2891
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:43,599
open I have no public comments

2892
02:15:43,599 --> 02:15:46,880
mayor public hearing is now

2893
02:15:46,880 --> 02:15:49,920
closed was that good Sophia I do it

2894
02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:52,559
right thank you

2895
02:15:52,559 --> 02:15:54,760
all right bringing back to council for

2896
02:15:54,760 --> 02:15:59,069
discussion

2897
02:15:59,079 --> 02:16:01,639
action second

2898
02:16:01,639 --> 02:16:04,840
retitle yep please ordinance number 1123

2899
02:16:04,840 --> 02:16:06,280
an ordinance of the city council of the

2900
02:16:06,280 --> 02:16:09,400
city of Norco amending chapter 3.24

2901
02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:11,280
purchasing system of the norcan

2902
02:16:11,280 --> 02:16:16,669
municipal code code Amendment 202

2903
02:16:16,679 --> 02:16:30,229
24-9 please vote

2904
02:16:30,239 --> 02:16:32,559
motion passes unanimous thank

2905
02:16:32,559 --> 02:16:35,200
you all right moving on to city council

2906
02:16:35,200 --> 02:16:37,160
and staff Communications anything from

2907
02:16:37,160 --> 02:16:41,230
City

2908
02:16:41,240 --> 02:16:44,000
staff uh City attorney no thank you Mr

2909
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:46,479
Mayor not a thing city

2910
02:16:46,479 --> 02:16:48,040
manager

2911
02:16:48,040 --> 02:16:53,309
Berwin Greg yes

2912
02:16:53,319 --> 02:16:55,880
the public comments that were made today

2913
02:16:55,880 --> 02:16:58,880
by the the two residents regarding their

2914
02:16:58,880 --> 02:17:00,559
electrical

2915
02:17:00,559 --> 02:17:02,880
services and

2916
02:17:02,880 --> 02:17:05,679
their dilemma that they're in with with

2917
02:17:05,679 --> 02:17:09,429
the construction

2918
02:17:09,439 --> 02:17:12,200
um I know Alma

2919
02:17:12,200 --> 02:17:14,399
that you're you're aware of that

2920
02:17:14,399 --> 02:17:17,080
situation obviously but I like to see

2921
02:17:17,080 --> 02:17:22,200
Council be given a a a a report

2922
02:17:22,200 --> 02:17:28,669
of of what what the situation

2923
02:17:28,679 --> 02:17:38,349
is and maybe a

2924
02:17:38,359 --> 02:17:41,040
timeline thank you it's a good one I

2925
02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:43,240
like that

2926
02:17:43,240 --> 02:17:45,359
Katherine just want to thank City staff

2927
02:17:45,359 --> 02:17:47,319
for all of their work and the volunteers

2928
02:17:47,319 --> 02:17:48,679
at day of the cowboy and also at

2929
02:17:48,679 --> 02:17:52,910
National Night Out so thank you

2930
02:17:52,920 --> 02:17:55,800
Robin would just like to wish the Little

2931
02:17:55,800 --> 02:17:58,240
League team from East Bale best of luck

2932
02:17:58,240 --> 02:18:01,760
tomorrow in their game so here's my

2933
02:18:01,760 --> 02:18:03,319
little plug and a little props to

2934
02:18:03,319 --> 02:18:06,040
Eastvale for their little league team so

2935
02:18:06,040 --> 02:18:07,920
best wishes to them tomorrow in their

2936
02:18:07,920 --> 02:18:11,519
game so awesome um I just have two

2937
02:18:11,519 --> 02:18:14,599
things one um I'd like to agendize a

2938
02:18:14,599 --> 02:18:16,639
discussion about the national register

2939
02:18:16,639 --> 02:18:18,519
it's very possible um I don't know

2940
02:18:18,519 --> 02:18:20,160
what's going to happen but the lmcf has

2941
02:18:20,160 --> 02:18:21,359
offered to

2942
02:18:21,359 --> 02:18:23,519
join us in that effort and if we could I

2943
02:18:23,519 --> 02:18:24,920
have to bring it before

2944
02:18:24,920 --> 02:18:28,359
Council um if we could uh agendize that

2945
02:18:28,359 --> 02:18:32,669
at a future

2946
02:18:32,679 --> 02:18:38,629
meeting thank

2947
02:18:38,639 --> 02:18:55,389
you please vote

2948
02:18:55,399 --> 02:18:58,080
yeah there it comes motion passes

2949
02:18:58,080 --> 02:18:59,960
unanimous and then finally I know this

2950
02:18:59,960 --> 02:19:02,599
is a a much much bigger lift but I would

2951
02:19:02,599 --> 02:19:04,719
like to

2952
02:19:04,719 --> 02:19:09,359
um I would like to agendize a discussion

2953
02:19:09,359 --> 02:19:11,479
regarding we are in a very unique

2954
02:19:11,479 --> 02:19:13,240
position as a city of norin that we have

2955
02:19:13,240 --> 02:19:14,920
our own Waterworks and one of the things

2956
02:19:14,920 --> 02:19:18,519
that is coming is a need for recycled

2957
02:19:18,519 --> 02:19:20,760
water and I know it's very expensive and

2958
02:19:20,760 --> 02:19:22,760
know we can't do it overnight but what I

2959
02:19:22,760 --> 02:19:24,880
would like to do is at least begin the

2960
02:19:24,880 --> 02:19:27,160
groundwork and have discussions on how

2961
02:19:27,160 --> 02:19:30,319
to begin to expand recycled water not

2962
02:19:30,319 --> 02:19:32,599
only to our Parks but into our cities I

2963
02:19:32,599 --> 02:19:35,639
know it's a huge lift but I think that

2964
02:19:35,639 --> 02:19:40,040
given the fact that the state refuses to

2965
02:19:40,040 --> 02:19:42,760
create storage I think that we need to

2966
02:19:42,760 --> 02:19:45,160
begin to include that the other thing

2967
02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:47,800
I'd also like to include I really liked

2968
02:19:47,800 --> 02:19:49,840
uh Greg's idea in terms of the putting

2969
02:19:49,840 --> 02:19:51,439
out the fires where the number one fire

2970
02:19:51,439 --> 02:19:54,080
zone in the entire United States so I'd

2971
02:19:54,080 --> 02:19:56,359
like to discuss what's that water

2972
02:19:56,359 --> 02:19:59,160
storage system cost

2973
02:19:59,160 --> 02:20:02,760
calledd helah hydrant or hel pod I'd

2974
02:20:02,760 --> 02:20:04,200
like to discuss putting a couple of

2975
02:20:04,200 --> 02:20:06,840
those in if it's possible I have no idea

2976
02:20:06,840 --> 02:20:08,399
but then the other thing is I'd like to

2977
02:20:08,399 --> 02:20:10,680
have a discussion on recycled water and

2978
02:20:10,680 --> 02:20:12,240
utilizing it because we're about ready

2979
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:14,240
to get a whole bunch of recycled water

2980
02:20:14,240 --> 02:20:15,560
from the in fact we're already getting

2981
02:20:15,560 --> 02:20:18,120
it but I think that uh I'm not talking

2982
02:20:18,120 --> 02:20:20,439
this isn't tomorrow this isn't next week

2983
02:20:20,439 --> 02:20:22,399
but if we have a plan for the next 25

2984
02:20:22,399 --> 02:20:24,520
years as we're putting in

2985
02:20:24,520 --> 02:20:26,359
infrastructure uh we're doing a lot of

2986
02:20:26,359 --> 02:20:28,840
Street work there's no re well maybe

2987
02:20:28,840 --> 02:20:30,520
there is a reason but at least we look

2988
02:20:30,520 --> 02:20:33,399
at as we break open streets we begin to

2989
02:20:33,399 --> 02:20:35,640
put in Rec recycled water lines when we

2990
02:20:35,640 --> 02:20:38,000
can so I'd like to agendize that to at

2991
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:39,680
least have a

2992
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:41,720
discussion can we have a workshop on

2993
02:20:41,720 --> 02:20:43,040
that would you is

2994
02:20:43,040 --> 02:20:46,240
that whatever I mean I'm I'm open to

2995
02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:48,720
that so to have a workshop on that to

2996
02:20:48,720 --> 02:20:52,040
talk about water and the other thing too

2997
02:20:52,040 --> 02:20:53,920
is AG meters I mean all these things are

2998
02:20:53,920 --> 02:20:56,280
trying to do with a farm to Fork farming

2999
02:20:56,280 --> 02:21:01,830
I think I think a workshop would be

3000
02:21:01,840 --> 02:21:04,120
great mayor I think we need Clarity on

3001
02:21:04,120 --> 02:21:06,359
the motion again we need a Clarity on

3002
02:21:06,359 --> 02:21:10,560
the motion okay um so I make a motion

3003
02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:13,479
that we have a workshop on recycled

3004
02:21:13,479 --> 02:21:15,359
water and beginning to do the

3005
02:21:15,359 --> 02:21:16,640
infrastructure for that throughout the

3006
02:21:16,640 --> 02:21:19,479
city of Norco and at the same time I'd

3007
02:21:19,479 --> 02:21:21,680
like to talk about the um the water

3008
02:21:21,680 --> 02:21:25,280
storage system in the case of fires um

3009
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:27,680
like it or not I I have no trust in

3010
02:21:27,680 --> 02:21:29,359
Edison in terms of what they want to run

3011
02:21:29,359 --> 02:21:31,680
down our throats and in fact one of the

3012
02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:33,319
things that makes me frustrated about

3013
02:21:33,319 --> 02:21:35,080
the league of cities just so we're clear

3014
02:21:35,080 --> 02:21:36,600
is that that's one of the areas we don't

3015
02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:38,520
stick together so we're going to have to

3016
02:21:38,520 --> 02:21:40,359
protect ourselves in the event of a fire

3017
02:21:40,359 --> 02:21:43,000
I think I think Greg's Greg's idea is an

3018
02:21:43,000 --> 02:21:45,359
excellent one so we talk about that and

3019
02:21:45,359 --> 02:21:48,080
we talk about recycled water okay and

3020
02:21:48,080 --> 02:21:49,520
with the use for a because I've had

3021
02:21:49,520 --> 02:21:51,760
questions about that as well yep so

3022
02:21:51,760 --> 02:21:53,200
those would be the three topic using the

3023
02:21:53,200 --> 02:21:55,800
Recycled water for agricultural uses

3024
02:21:55,800 --> 02:21:57,640
within the city and how we could make

3025
02:21:57,640 --> 02:21:59,160
that work before the infrastructure is

3026
02:21:59,160 --> 02:22:01,520
put in place so a water Workshop that

3027
02:22:01,520 --> 02:22:11,590
covering those topics yes okay

3028
02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:22,429
great please vote

3029
02:22:22,439 --> 02:22:25,240
a motion carries thank you thank you and

3030
02:22:25,240 --> 02:22:29,399
with that we are adjourned