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[5:29] we'll now bring the August 7th 2024 city
[5:32] council uh meeting to order uh call upon
[5:35] the City attorney is there any
[5:37] reportable action no reportable action
[5:39] Mr Mayor thank you
[5:41] sir we'll now have the Pledge of
[5:43] Allegiance led by council member Berwin
[5:51] Hannah ready to
[5:53] begin Al to the of the United States of
[5:57] America to the for it stands
[6:03] na
[6:06] andice we'll now have the invocation by
[6:10] associate pastor Lazaro Santiago Beacon
[6:12] Hill Assembly of God good evening sir I
[6:14] don't think we've met before
[6:25] welcome peaceful and quiet lives in all
[6:28] godliness and Holiness this is good and
[6:31] pleases God our savior Heavenly Father
[6:34] we thank you for our city thank you for
[6:36] our elected and appointed officials the
[6:38] businesses the churches the families and
[6:40] the individuals that make our city the
[6:42] great place that it is I pray for this
[6:44] council meeting tonight give the council
[6:46] members wisdom and guidance as they
[6:49] deliberate on the items before them may
[6:51] every decision be righteous in your
[6:53] sight for our benefit and For Your Glory
[6:56] Almighty one I thank you for this
[6:58] meeting today Lord Lord there is an
[7:00] agenda and we ask that your Holy Spirit
[7:02] lead and direct all discussions that
[7:04] take place during this council meeting I
[7:06] pray that you will use the skills and
[7:08] abilities within each of our council
[7:10] members and participating citizens to
[7:13] accomplish the task set before us help
[7:15] us to remain positive in all decisions
[7:17] made and to maintain peace and Good Will
[7:19] towards each other God bless our great
[7:22] city of Norco in the name of the father
[7:24] and of the son and of the holy spirit
[7:26] amen thank you Mr sanago
[7:37] I'm going to bring up Joe holspa
[7:40] Joe here tonight there you
[7:51] go all
[7:57] right so I'm president of nor horse week
[8:00] uh we wanted to uh and thank you for
[8:03] giving us the opportunity uh to present
[8:05] some checks ceremonial checks to some of
[8:08] our larger donations we were fortunate
[8:10] enough to be able to contribute to this
[8:13] year uh for those of you don't know
[8:15] Norco horse week is a nonprofit
[8:18] organization we're run by volunteers
[8:20] strictly volunteers uh and everything
[8:23] that excuse me that we make and don't
[8:26] Reserve back to run our event for the
[8:28] next year we donate back out to uh local
[8:31] city organizations and uh some of the
[8:34] city uh departments itself uh we could
[8:37] not do this event without the help of
[8:40] the city and the city council and uh
[8:44] most importantly our
[8:45] volunteers so I won't take up too much
[8:47] your time uh but if I could have up uh
[8:51] Melvin Sparks please uh he'll be
[8:53] accepting on behalf of animal control
[8:56] and nart
[9:00] how you
[9:01] doing good
[9:14] good so we were able to donate $10,000
[9:17] to the animal shelter and uh $4,000 to
[9:24] nart you get both
[9:30] thank you so
[9:31] much thank you all right next can I
[9:35] please have the representative for Norco
[9:38] seniors and
[9:39] [Music]
[9:49] pets so would you like to say a little
[9:51] bit about your
[9:53] organization what you guys do Norco
[9:56] seniors and pets has been around Norco
[9:58] since 19 1989 and we help low-income
[10:01] seniors here in town we um help them
[10:04] with food we help them with uh pet
[10:06] expenses we U get donations of dog food
[10:10] and just try to help them
[10:13] out so as you can see a very worthwhile
[10:15] organization so we always like to give
[10:17] what we can uh so we're proud to be able
[10:20] to donate uh believe
[10:22] 10,000 to the Norco seniors and pets
[10:37] Here's the the real
[10:45] check thank thank you very
[10:47] much thank you thank you for all you
[10:50] guys
[10:53] do all right if we could have please a
[10:56] representative for the senior center
[10:58] it's uh Alejandra Gonzalez and Cindy
[11:06] Garcia so uh senior Center's always been
[11:10] an important Organization for uh uh a
[11:14] horse week right uh everybody gets old
[11:17] it's nice to give somewhere for
[11:19] everybody to go and enjoy so uh we were
[11:23] lucky enough to be able to donate
[11:24] $110,000 to the senior center this year
[11:42] thank you thank
[11:44] you uh and last but not least uh we have
[11:50] FFA so FFA every year uh I've been a
[11:56] part of horse week now uh for the better
[11:59] part of 20 years and for as long as I've
[12:02] been around I've known they've helped
[12:03] they've been a huge help and they
[12:05] increase every year so we're happy to be
[12:08] able to donate $10,000 to the FFA this
[12:10] year thank you
[12:14] [Laughter]
[12:34] uh so that's all I have for this year we
[12:36] did donate uh to several other
[12:39] organizations that helped us but I don't
[12:40] want to take up your whole night uh
[12:42] thank you for allowing us to present
[12:44] those and I look forward to next year
[12:46] thank you Joe appreciate
[12:49] [Applause]
[12:53] it so now we're going to call upon
[12:55] director Hamilton city of Norco mounting
[12:57] block pilot project
[13:04] good evening city council so tonight I
[13:07] have a presentation on the horse
[13:08] mounting block pilot project in our city
[13:15] parks you work
[13:27] good thank thank
[13:29] you this year the city has aligned with
[13:32] the community-based initiative Norco
[13:35] Mount up Mission
[13:37] 2024 this initiative advocates for
[13:39] placing safe mounting Platforms in local
[13:41] parks and business
[13:43] centers Maria pase and Kim Adams have
[13:46] spearheaded this initiative and while
[13:49] they are working on having donated
[13:50] mounting blocks installed at private
[13:52] businesses they have asked the city to
[13:55] add these amenities to our public parks
[13:57] installing mounting blocks in areas
[13:59] where Riders normally Dismount and mount
[14:02] can increase usage of noros trails and
[14:04] Parks uh many riders have difficulty
[14:07] getting on and off a horse and will
[14:08] search out large rocks stumps picnic
[14:12] tables and anything to give them
[14:14] themselves a boost um which sometimes
[14:16] can be unstable or slippery since this
[14:19] is H down USA is only fitting that we
[14:21] advocate for our Riders and the city has
[14:23] allocated funding for this project as
[14:25] part of fiscal year 2425
[14:29] for this pilot project $220,000 has been
[14:31] allocated to install ADA Compliant horse
[14:34] mounting blocks um with this being a
[14:36] pilot project uh we are going to be
[14:39] installing four ramps this year and
[14:41] we'll monitor the usage of those ramps
[14:43] along with maintenance
[14:46] factors depending on the pilot Project's
[14:49] outcomes uh the city May program
[14:51] additional funding for other parks and
[14:53] facilities in future years each ramp
[14:56] will cost about $5,000 and will be
[14:58] installed by City Crews it is important
[15:01] to note that this pilot project was
[15:02] brought to the parks and rec Commission
[15:04] on June 10th for review and discussion
[15:07] staff received positive feedback from
[15:08] the commission and has been working with
[15:10] handy ramp uh on an amenity that would
[15:13] also be Ada
[15:15] accessible the pilot project locations
[15:18] include coron staging area Pacer Park
[15:21] Hawk Crest Park and Norco Hills
[15:24] Park placement of these mounting blocks
[15:27] would sit adjacent to any holding pen or
[15:31] Arena and with that I have any if you
[15:34] have any questions but I would also like
[15:35] to bring up Maria and Kim just to say
[15:38] hello to the council and talk about an
[15:40] exciting uh reveal that they have this
[15:43] weekend at grocery
[15:45] allet thank you I'm Kim unfortunately
[15:47] I'm so sorry Maria got help helping
[15:49] somebody in distress so you got Kimmer G
[15:51] right here I'm going to bottle you I've
[15:54] decided I'm going to bottle that energy
[15:56] and sell it amen thank you bless by holy
[16:00] SP and Jesus thank you oh gosh you know
[16:03] what it all started with a with a dream
[16:05] um it's a on a saddle talk Marie and I
[16:08] one day in December were taking a ride
[16:10] and she's got some handicap disabilities
[16:12] and she rides a 17 hand thorough bread
[16:15] and whenever she gets on her horse at
[16:17] home she uses her Mount to go on safely
[16:20] and she always prays that nothing
[16:21] happens when she has to get off her
[16:22] horse and find something like she was
[16:24] saying which isn't safe and so
[16:26] especially we are riding by the parks
[16:28] and she's like oh my gosh sometimes I
[16:29] got to go potty you know but I can't get
[16:31] back on my horse so we got talking and I
[16:33] thought you know I bet you if it's not
[16:35] her you know um there's got to be more
[16:37] people like you out there so we got off
[16:40] our ride and ran in in the house and I
[16:42] grabbed my husband Peter beos and right
[16:45] over there and I said you got to make a
[16:46] video we're gonna get this out on
[16:48] Facebook and we're gonna hashtag Kevin
[16:50] bash and that's how it started many
[16:53] times don't give up on your dream big
[16:55] time Big Time so I am just honored Who
[16:58] would know that this little idea that we
[17:01] had would be here today and and it
[17:03] branched off you know to the to the
[17:05] private sector as people are paying for
[17:07] these beautiful wood Mount UPS our first
[17:10] one was set up in in July at Mavericks
[17:12] we're Happ we're having our second one
[17:14] this installation this Saturday at
[17:16] grocery outlet and um gosh and just the
[17:20] backup and just so many people on
[17:22] Facebook just like we love that idea we
[17:24] want more can you put one here can you
[17:26] put one there and just like oh it just
[17:30] so amazing I'm just honored to that you
[17:32] know God put that inspiration in our
[17:34] minds and we just didn't give up and uh
[17:36] hashtag you so so anyways thank you so
[17:40] much and I hope everybody can make it
[17:41] out Saturday 10: a.m. Grocery Outlet um
[17:45] and then we're moving up to uh um Boot
[17:47] Barn and just all the way up Sixth
[17:48] Street and then ster Brothers on coron
[17:51] and river and there she is right
[17:55] here she made it but anyways but thank
[17:58] you so so much and we'll have a m up
[18:00] everywhere in nor thank you thank you
[18:02] very much and uh
[18:06] Amanda where' Amanda go Amanda thank you
[18:08] and your staff for making this happen
[18:10] this is really uh it's one of those
[18:12] unique Norco winds so thank you Mayer
[18:16] yes I got a question yep the ramps are
[18:19] they made out of aluminum yes they are
[18:21] are they going to be slip proof on the
[18:24] yes they do have some grit to them and
[18:26] they're made specifically for um this
[18:28] type of application in parks and in
[18:30] Trails um yeah they will have a they
[18:32] will have a grit to them on the ramp
[18:34] area okay thank you any other
[18:38] questions congratulations so next uh
[18:42] going to call upon Isabelle heinrikson
[18:44] and Jamie Shin for the read to ride
[18:49] program how are you young lady I haven't
[18:51] seen you in a long time nice to see you
[18:54] do you know the lady at the end no not
[18:57] at all
[18:59] so for those of you that don't know my
[19:01] name is Izzy oh Isabelle Hendrickson but
[19:03] I do go by Izzy um when I joined so I
[19:06] kind of had this idea of joining the
[19:08] Norco Fair committee um and I thought
[19:10] what new ideas can I bring to the Norco
[19:12] Fair committee I knew other fairs that
[19:15] did this reading program um and from
[19:18] there we I brought it up to the naral
[19:20] fair committee so far we have one
[19:22] sponsor thank you
[19:23] Woody this is our pilot year um for this
[19:27] program so basically the the idea is the
[19:29] kids read um they write a summary and
[19:32] they get ride tickets in return um now
[19:34] I'll go ahead and hand it over to Jamie
[19:35] so she can explain more detail on
[19:39] that good evening everyone my name is
[19:41] Jamin I'm the branch manager for the
[19:43] Eastville and norgo libraries on behalf
[19:45] of the library we are very thankful for
[19:47] this opportunity to give you all a brief
[19:49] overview on the online platform
[19:50] beanstack which R toite is held on the
[19:53] Riverside County library system is
[19:55] currently using oops sorry currently do
[19:59] me a favor can you talk right into them
[20:01] it's there you go gotcha the Riverside
[20:04] County library system is currently using
[20:06] bean stack to hold multiple reading
[20:07] challenges throughout the year including
[20:09] the current collaboration between the
[20:11] Norco library and the Norco Fair called
[20:13] read to write beanstack is an online
[20:15] program where our library patrons are
[20:16] able to create accounts to participate
[20:18] in the reading challenges our system has
[20:20] published our patrons also known as
[20:22] readers participate in these challenges
[20:24] by logging the reading activity and
[20:25] completing tasks either through the
[20:27] beanstack app or the website
[20:29] more specifically our readers interact
[20:31] with beanstack by being able to choose
[20:32] which reading challenges they'd like to
[20:34] register for readers are in points and
[20:36] badges by completing the required
[20:37] activities determined by the associated
[20:39] challenges these activities can include
[20:41] submitting a book summary um and logging
[20:44] their total minutes of reading bean
[20:46] stack tracks the reader progress and
[20:47] allows Library staff to issue Awards
[20:49] corresponding to their
[20:50] participation the noral fair R toide
[20:53] program like isad explained is our first
[20:55] Branch specific Challenge on beanstack
[20:57] RTO ride will be active in until August
[20:59] 16th and is available to our nro patrons
[21:01] R toide encourages readers from
[21:03] preschool to 6th grade to Ride book
[21:04] summaries in exchange for ride tickets
[21:06] and a free shaved ice from Woody shaved
[21:08] ice to earn ride tickets each book
[21:10] summary will earn them an increasing
[21:11] number of Free Ride tickets for example
[21:13] readers that submit one book summary
[21:15] will earn two tickets two will earn
[21:17] three and so on until um they' submitted
[21:19] up to eight summaries which is rewarded
[21:21] by 10 ride tickets a free shaved ice
[21:24] kind of follows the same rule where
[21:26] they'll uh shave the shaved ice will
[21:28] increase in size depending on the book
[21:29] summaries they submitted so one to two
[21:31] will earn a small one and the jumbo free
[21:34] shaved ice is the um range between seven
[21:36] to eight book summaries um so yeah
[21:39] readers are then able to pick up their
[21:41] ride tickets and free shaped ice at the
[21:42] noral fair by using their first and last
[21:44] name at a designated R to ride check-in
[21:47] area currently we have a total of 52
[21:50] participants and a total of 120 badges
[21:52] earned um 55 book summaries have been
[21:55] submitted and 13 participants have
[21:56] completed all their activities
[21:59] uh my reports share that the age groups
[22:00] with the most participants are between 7
[22:02] to 8 years old and the majority of our
[22:04] patrons are noral patrons but local
[22:06] participants have joined the Challenge
[22:08] from nearby branches like Eastville and
[22:10] home gardens but they're all within the
[22:12] same county
[22:13] system the future of beanstack is full
[22:15] of upcoming CH reading challenges and
[22:17] programs the Riverside County library
[22:19] system has reading challenges available
[22:21] on beanstack year round for patrons for
[22:23] all ages to participate in we welcome
[22:25] any future collaborations as we work to
[22:27] serve our GR community at the noral
[22:29] library thank you do we have any
[22:35] questions this is wonderful this is
[22:38] really wonderful I I is there some way
[22:40] we can get this out to
[22:43] uh I I think we need to put this on our
[22:45] website and maybe put it on our Norco
[22:47] app and that kind of thing this is
[22:49] wonderful it's nice to see you're doing
[22:51] great things still I remember you when
[22:53] you were
[22:54] [Laughter]
[22:56] little any questions
[22:59] comments well thank
[23:01] you yeah I saw
[23:04] yeah
[23:17] cely coming out of our pocket yeah go
[23:21] great thank
[23:24] you all right next up
[23:32] uh we have one other thing that we need
[23:33] to do um is the lieutenant
[23:36] here can you come on up
[23:41] here I'm gonna rub
[23:52] it for the first two years and Newton
[23:56] couldn't stand it so he brought a ringer
[23:59] this year and I would have won so with
[24:03] great
[24:05] reluctance I have to give you the cow
[24:09] throwing contest award but no it
[24:14] was a ringer an ex- minor leager I know
[24:17] and tell him we used to want him back in
[24:19] Norco but not
[24:23] anymore
[24:25] anyway and
[24:28] stands for cops and we want you to help
[24:31] proud we are even when you throw
[24:43] sh I'm gonna get so much trouble from my
[24:47] wife
[24:50] Lieutenant if if you would tell Andy
[24:53] that c does not stand for cops it stands
[24:56] for Cubs oh as at his
[25:00] request Riverside County deputies are
[25:02] not losers it's
[25:06] cops all right moving
[25:09] on uh we'll have city council reports on
[25:12] Regional boards councilman grun
[25:15] Meer uh nothing to report thank you Mr
[25:21] Mayor councilwoman Alman yes I on July
[25:24] 18th um I attended the north northwest
[25:27] mosquito and vector Control District
[25:28] Board of Trustees meeting and just a
[25:30] couple points out of that meeting um in
[25:32] terms of West Nile um the district only
[25:35] reports when mosquitoes are found that
[25:38] have West Nile in our County any reports
[25:41] of humans um who have been infected
[25:44] would come from the county department of
[25:45] health um and so you can check uh their
[25:48] website they have a social media and an
[25:49] Instagram um this year in the state I
[25:52] think there's only been two cases and
[25:54] they did just find the a first pool that
[25:56] had West Nile in our County um and then
[25:58] that they'll base their treatment plans
[26:00] based on that uh and then the second is
[26:02] that we have hired a new general Council
[26:04] and so we will begin working on our
[26:06] strategic plan one of which is to
[26:07] continue uh to be proactive and protect
[26:10] the health of the public when it comes
[26:11] to mosquitoes and Vector born
[26:15] diseases council member
[26:19] Hannah yeah tonight I want to read this
[26:21] about
[26:24] uh Joe tavalon he was uh longtime member
[26:29] of just about every Transportation
[26:31] Commission that there was in the state
[26:33] of
[26:33] California in July he just celebrated
[26:36] his 101st
[26:38] birthday and up until just a few months
[26:41] before that he was as sharp as anybody
[26:44] and a pleasure to talk to him I know
[26:47] several members of his family and
[26:50] everything but uh he joined the
[26:52] California Transportation Commission in
[26:55] 2002 and retired excuse me in July live
[27:00] 2024 and he had over 20 years of
[27:02] transportation and over 50 years in
[27:05] construction and he helped rctc receive
[27:08] state funding for a lot of major
[27:10] projects including the wiing of the I
[27:13] 215 State Route 91
[27:16] I-15 and State Route
[27:19] 60 and Senator Roth is preparing a
[27:22] resolution to dedicate the 60 91215
[27:26] interchange in his name but uh I
[27:31] remember I hadn't seen him in several
[27:34] years and when we did the groundbreaking
[27:37] on
[27:38] the express lanes of the 15 freeway over
[27:41] here well he walked up and started
[27:44] talking just like we'd seen each other
[27:46] the day before he he never forgot people
[27:49] and he was quite a gentleman and it's
[27:51] sad that he's passing but it's uh a good
[27:55] deal that they're going to name that
[27:56] interchange after he m over there and
[27:59] that's all I have mayor sir
[28:07] Greg thank you mayor uh last week U head
[28:11] board meeting Chino Bas and dalter
[28:13] Authority board of directors meeting um
[28:17] I was going to do a a riveting report on
[28:21] uh the Chino Basin uh plume that we
[28:25] spend uh a lot of time working on but
[28:28] I'm going to put that off and I'm going
[28:30] to show a little video U this was an
[28:33] item we went over um at our meeting uh
[28:38] it's done by
[28:40] jcsd and then I'm going to ask our fire
[28:42] chief with your permission mayor to um
[28:45] uh speak on this but this has to do with
[28:47] a article that U I read here a little
[28:51] bit ago about helip pods and helah
[28:54] hydrants and um
[28:58] and and I'll ask the chief to touch on
[29:00] it but we've had discussions on moving
[29:03] forward with Wildlife well Wildland
[29:07] protection Chief will touch on that go
[29:09] go ahead and play that it's only two
[29:18] minutes at herua Community Services
[29:21] District we pride ourselves on being
[29:24] Regional leaders in the services we
[29:26] provide every day jcsd provides
[29:29] essential services for our community and
[29:32] our commitment to Innovation and
[29:34] Community safety is stronger than ever
[29:36] through jcsds helah hydrant project
[29:39] designed to bolster our community's fire
[29:42] response and Public Safety the helah
[29:44] hydrant is a game changer in our
[29:46] emergency response strategy and is the
[29:49] first of its kind in the Inland Empire
[29:51] region each hydrant is a 15 ft wide
[29:55] nearly 10,000g tank designed to expedite
[29:58] the water collection process for
[30:00] firefighting helicopters each hel
[30:03] hydrant is a little different this
[30:04] particular one takes about 7 minutes and
[30:07] it'll fill to the top situated
[30:09] strategically in fire prone areas these
[30:11] helah hydrant are constructed to
[30:13] integrate seamlessly with jcsds existing
[30:16] Water Systems when a fire breaks out the
[30:20] jcsd hydrant quickly fills when
[30:22] activated by an approaching firefighting
[30:24] helicopter providing a valuable water
[30:27] source that SA critical time in the
[30:29] battle against fire when a fire
[30:31] emergency erupts firefighters can rely
[30:34] on jcsds H hydrant to be ready for
[30:37] action and allows for us to get water on
[30:39] the fire's Edge as as quickly as we can
[30:42] in the summer of 20124 we celebrated a
[30:46] major Milestone with the inauguration of
[30:48] the first jcsd helah hydron in service
[30:52] located in haropa Valley's Country
[30:54] Village neighborhood helping
[30:55] firefighting efforts in the area we
[30:58] initiated a discussion with calire and
[31:00] said hey can we look at doing a project
[31:02] like this over in JCS area through
[31:05] Forward Thinking and long-term planning
[31:07] the jcsd helah hydrant project will
[31:10] install a total of four helah hydrants
[31:13] across jcsd service area in Eastvale and
[31:16] haropa Valley ensuring robust coverage
[31:19] and protection for our region with the
[31:21] helah hydrons jcsd is not just helping
[31:24] fight fires we're building resilience
[31:27] and safe guarding our community's future
[31:29] for generations to come to learn more
[31:32] about our Innovative projects programs
[31:34] and Community initiatives visit
[31:46] jcsd.us thank you uh mayor this is
[31:49] something I'd like to with your
[31:50] permission to uh um do some further re
[31:55] research with uh staff and calire
[31:58] um this was also I believe it's um paid
[32:03] through with a grant from uh Riverside
[32:06] County flood control and and I think
[32:09] something like this is very appropriate
[32:11] um especially for our area
[32:14] and given what's going on recently so
[32:18] Chief would you like
[32:20] to make a few comments briefly
[32:24] and explain it a lot better than I
[32:29] good evening Mr Mayor and members of the
[32:31] city council um so yeah I'd say about
[32:34] two years ago jcsd uh approached myself
[32:38] and chief VI and they were interested in
[32:41] putting in these hydrants so what we did
[32:44] is we teamed with them and we went out
[32:46] to different locations within Hupa
[32:48] Valley and Eastville so the one you saw
[32:51] here is the first of four that are going
[32:53] in that one's off a Country Village Road
[32:55] just north and their next one's going to
[32:57] be in East down by the river bottom and
[32:59] then a couple more along the river
[33:00] bottom in herua Valley so um we team
[33:03] with them we had our Pilots come out and
[33:05] uh they they cleared the areas what's
[33:07] safe for them and this product really is
[33:10] safe for our pilots and that's one of
[33:11] the main reasons we did it it's quick
[33:13] easy access they control it from the air
[33:16] to fill the uh device up to fill the
[33:19] tank up and then they can drain it after
[33:21] they leave and water goes back down into
[33:23] the system so it's really a great system
[33:26] um I'm an advocate for it
[33:28] um the more the better for our Pilots
[33:30] the safer it's going to be for them so
[33:32] if you guys have any questions I'll try
[33:35] to answer them the best I
[33:37] can any
[33:39] questions thank you sir all
[33:42] righty Chief I appreciate it um just one
[33:46] other comment that it's controlled by
[33:48] the helicopter but it ties to our
[33:50] scatter system and
[33:54] um and I think we have some ideal
[33:56] locations
[33:58] where where this could be placed
[34:01] so with your permission mayor thank you
[34:04] yes please thanks Chief okay no worries
[34:07] okay
[34:10] anytime uh so a couple of things um the
[34:13] Western Regional Council of governments
[34:16] uh a couple of issues that we talked
[34:18] about first off we had a pretty
[34:19] interesting water um presentation that
[34:22] we have some water issues in Southern
[34:24] California what was very interesting to
[34:25] me is that the the Western principal
[34:28] water uh company director um I had gone
[34:31] on a water tour with him up to the Delta
[34:34] and at that time he did not know how
[34:36] many houses we had to build in the area
[34:37] and he said oh we have plenty of water
[34:39] for all the houses he's changed his tune
[34:42] he now realizes that the amount of
[34:43] houses that they want us to build
[34:45] Apartments um it's a real problem and
[34:49] the reality is they're asking us to do
[34:51] we all these houses they want us to
[34:52] build we don't have enough water we
[34:54] don't have enough all kinds of stuff so
[34:56] one of the things that um at the end of
[34:59] this meeting I'm going to talk about is
[35:01] I know it's an impossible task but I'm
[35:03] going to talk about um how do we truly
[35:06] beef up our recycled water program so
[35:08] I'll talk about that um uh Katherine and
[35:11] I went to the Riverside City College
[35:12] District trustees meeting I'm going to
[35:16] um basically there was a bond um did you
[35:19] stay for the whole thing Katherine did
[35:20] you say to the end um they actually are
[35:23] going to pass a bond uh it's one of the
[35:26] few bonds that I am actually supporting
[35:29] um we are hearing that there's going to
[35:32] be a lot of job loss in the state of
[35:33] California in the next coming year
[35:35] hundreds of thousand of jobs maybe we
[35:37] have people leaving and they're saying
[35:39] kids that are 20 years old are probably
[35:42] going to have to learn skills all
[35:44] through their life they predict they'll
[35:45] live to 100 and so junior colleges are
[35:49] an incredible way to retool they're also
[35:51] an incredible way to uh get your first
[35:54] two years in whenever I see somebody
[35:56] from Norco college and so I'm just going
[35:58] to Norco College say that's great that's
[35:59] fantastic your parents going to love you
[36:01] because it's almost free so um I am
[36:04] going to support that particular Bond
[36:07] and then finally I want to add this um
[36:09] to the council you've all been very
[36:10] supportive we've we have been trying to
[36:14] list expand the list to include the Navy
[36:17] base on the national register of
[36:19] historic places and after a lot of talk
[36:24] we finally spoke to an expert attorney
[36:27] in
[36:28] preservation law and I wish the heck we
[36:31] talked to this woman a long time ago um
[36:34] on February 2nd
[36:38] 2018 we unanimously received approval to
[36:41] expand the national register from the
[36:42] state historic preservation
[36:44] commission we didn't know this till we
[36:46] did fo requests but the Navy opposed it
[36:49] and they submitted in October of the
[36:52] same year a technical review that was
[36:55] just flat wrong we didn't know about It
[36:59] ultimately through a lot of gations we
[37:02] didn't know until almost in fact four
[37:04] years later that the keeper apparently
[37:07] agreed with the Navy but she didn't
[37:10] actually deny our petition she said I'm
[37:13] making no judgment
[37:16] well they had 45 days it says
[37:20] nominations will be included in the
[37:21] National register within 45 days of
[37:23] receipt by The Keeper a design unless
[37:25] the keeper disapproves a nomination an
[37:27] appeal is filed or the owner of the
[37:29] private property etc etc etc Navy
[37:32] actually waited 3 years to tell us
[37:35] keeper almost four years to tell us and
[37:38] it actually appears that if there's no
[37:41] decision it has to be treated as if it's
[37:43] on the national register so at the end
[37:45] of this meeting I'm going to be asking
[37:47] that we uh along with the lcf who's
[37:50] agreed to co-partner with us that we
[37:52] hire this attorney and make it known
[37:55] that this belongs on the national
[37:58] register if this is actually true we've
[38:01] overcome politicians we've overcome
[38:05] Navy bureaucrats we've overcome if this
[38:08] is as simple as it gets I'm going to be
[38:11] really upset because I spend a lot of
[38:12] time on this thing but 45 days is 45
[38:15] days and the soonest that the uh the
[38:19] Navy notified anybody
[38:22] was eight months later so this may well
[38:25] be a huge win and that's all I have so
[38:29] moving on to the consent calendar uh do
[38:32] council members have any items that need
[38:33] to be
[38:35] pulled mayor we're at public
[38:39] comments
[38:40] in I have
[38:43] um
[38:45] 3K
[38:48] 3M mayor we are at the um public comment
[38:52] item number two not consent calendar
[38:55] yet oh I'm sorry I I apologize yes I
[38:58] apologize hold that thought guys I
[39:00] apologize uh are there any public
[39:02] comments yes there is um this is the
[39:06] time on person's wishing to address the
[39:07] presiding governmental body regarding
[39:10] the consent calendar or matters not on
[39:12] the agenda may be heard please limit
[39:14] comments to 3 minutes or less the
[39:15] governmental body shall not discuss or
[39:17] act relative to any general public
[39:20] comment my first speaker is Dylan wimple
[39:29] hi Dylan how are
[39:30] you well
[39:33] good good evening Council my name is
[39:35] Dylan wimple here as a resident of Norco
[39:37] ask the city of Norco to implement an
[39:38] organic farm friendly weed and Pest
[39:40] Management plan organic farmers are
[39:43] limited in the chemicals they can use on
[39:44] or near their farms and the city's use
[39:46] of glyphosate and other similar products
[39:47] May overspray and jeopardize their
[39:49] Organic certification and many residents
[39:51] have worked hard to obtain this I ask
[39:53] the city review organic Alternatives and
[39:55] maintenance of our trails and public
[39:56] spaces and UTI regenerative agriculture
[39:58] practices in weed and pest suppression
[40:01] integrated Pest Management and ground
[40:02] cover such as mulch can help maintain
[40:04] the health of our soils and changes like
[40:05] these protect our small plot Farmers
[40:07] eliminating the risk of
[40:08] cross-contamination on their farmland
[40:09] and harvests thank you for your time
[40:11] great thank you sir our next speaker is
[40:14] Sergeant
[40:19] eof are we supposed to salute no I'm not
[40:23] I'm not a
[40:24] zero um um good good evening to the city
[40:28] council I just wanted to um thank the
[40:31] city of Narco the city council the staff
[40:35] Amanda over there um U Lori anybody else
[40:39] who is involved uh we got a call for our
[40:42] brick table at the National Night Out um
[40:46] when was that yesterday oh man and uh we
[40:50] were there from 2:30 till 8:00 at night
[40:54] and Larry how many people did we talk to
[40:58] 67 we talked to 67 people we're real
[41:03] picky about this we always have somebody
[41:05] that clicks the amount of uh people that
[41:08] we talk to but I just wanted to thank
[41:10] the the staff Amanda let me know about
[41:12] this uh and we set it up almost
[41:15] immediately and uh the staff came out
[41:18] there and set it up for us and they took
[41:21] it down but and these people that do
[41:24] this get paid for it and they of course
[41:26] they should get paid for it but that's
[41:28] not the point it's their attitude and I
[41:30] know I've talked about this before but
[41:32] it's always their attitude they do these
[41:35] things with a smile on their face if we
[41:37] ask them can we get another chair they
[41:40] just run out and get another chair
[41:42] they're so easy to work with and it's
[41:45] like they if if they could uh do it they
[41:49] would do it for free I mean this is how
[41:51] how good they are um the other thing is
[41:55] that Lori introduced me to a QR codes
[41:58] which I have which I have on my back and
[42:02] anybody behind me thinking about what's
[42:05] that weirdo gotta buy a brick on his
[42:07] back you you're more than welcome to
[42:09] come up behind me and take a picture of
[42:12] the of the QR code and thank you again
[42:15] Lori for bringing this you created a
[42:17] monster I'm a QR code nut uh the other
[42:22] thing is uh that I'd like to talk about
[42:24] is the um the fact that my wife and I or
[42:29] myself had decided that we're
[42:32] seniors I I know really I I'm not a
[42:36] senior so we went to the we go always go
[42:39] to the senior
[42:41] breakfast uh but we started going to Tai
[42:44] Chi and we did Tai Chi and we had again
[42:48] wonderful people over at the senior
[42:50] center I know these things don't happen
[42:53] by Magic and I have my the our taii and
[42:57] instructor could you please stand Cindy
[43:00] wonderful lady and we have a greeting
[43:02] that we
[43:05] do and she puts up with us I mean we we
[43:09] forget all these things and she say oh
[43:11] you're doing so great and we know we
[43:14] just screwed up the whole farm and
[43:16] everything but they have so many things
[43:18] so we went on from taiichi to chair of
[43:21] volleyball which is crazy if you stand
[43:24] up you lose a point but everybody just
[43:27] laughs the whole time uh they have a
[43:30] newly form formed uh chess club that
[43:34] Jordan runs he's great we do that and
[43:37] Sergeant eov I hate to interrupt you I
[43:40] can't believe you were tamed by the taii
[43:43] instructor over there but you're out of
[43:44] time I'm out of time thank you thank you
[43:47] sir and Alejandra would you please let
[43:49] your staff know that you were
[43:51] complimented by a sergeant from the
[43:52] United States Marine Corps
[43:57] our next speaker is Greg
[44:04] Bowen I'll make this short and sweet um
[44:08] for the norcar rodeo this year we're
[44:09] going to try something different on
[44:11] Sunday um I have
[44:15] contacted um four different counties and
[44:18] we're going to have law enforcement on
[44:19] Horseback on Sunday and we're going to
[44:22] have approximately over a 100 law
[44:24] enforcement that actually are doing that
[44:27] for a living uh coming to Norco and
[44:30] doing our grand
[44:32] entry uh we've got sanino County Sheriff
[44:36] sanino County Rangers sanino County PD
[44:40] sanino County uh Chino
[44:43] PD
[44:45] LAPD is a I haven't got a complete
[44:48] number from them yet but laso the
[44:50] sheriff Department's coming Orange
[44:52] County Sheriff Department's going
[44:54] Anaheim Irvine Fullerton Huntington
[44:57] Beach and most of these people live in
[44:59] this
[45:00] town uh Riverside Chad biano is going to
[45:03] be our Grand
[45:04] Marshall and Corona PD and possibly uh
[45:09] Palm Springs PD is going to be bringing
[45:10] horses um a quick breakdown what we're
[45:13] going to be
[45:14] doing um we're gonna everybody's going
[45:17] to check in early on Sunday they're
[45:20] going to get saddled up get their
[45:21] briefing uh then we're going to do a
[45:23] small trail ride down Sixth Street with
[45:27] approximately 100 horses we're gonna I
[45:30] have Saddles sword Rider going to come
[45:31] out and just like they do their trail
[45:34] rides that's all this is going to be is
[45:35] a trail ride and we're going to go down
[45:37] to tamiscal turn around and get all the
[45:38] bugs out of the
[45:40] horses then they're going to come up and
[45:41] they're going to line up and the rodeo
[45:44] starts at 5: so approximately 4:30
[45:46] they're going to be lining up in the
[45:47] back and then we'll go ahead and make a
[45:50] uh proceed into the arena and then after
[45:53] that the national anthem the Queens show
[45:56] the flag and all that stuff they're
[45:57] going to be dismissed but what I want to
[46:00] really capture on it's the first time
[46:02] this has ever been done in California uh
[46:05] we do it in Sacramento each year
[46:07] sometimes with 70 sometimes with 100
[46:10] it's phenomenal we ride all through
[46:13] Sacramento um and it's you don't really
[46:17] realize how many horses are in Southern
[46:19] California that actually do law
[46:21] enforcement on Horseback and what better
[46:23] City to promote that or even show it off
[46:26] is it Norco so we're going to do that uh
[46:29] this year at the Norco Rodeo September
[46:31] 25th the rodeo is at 5:00 if anybody
[46:33] wants to show
[46:35] up uh and that's all I got and by the
[46:38] way Amanda day the cowboy awesome and
[46:42] Berwin those uh mounting blocks those
[46:44] are made for just me and
[46:46] you all right thank you thank you
[46:50] sir our next speaker is JN Kiros
[47:00] good evening sir good evening um I
[47:03] appreciate your your warmth of how you
[47:05] conduct these these Council meetings
[47:07] they're they're uh they're a breath of
[47:09] fresh air well thank you okay
[47:13] um I'd like to my name is John Kos and
[47:16] I'm a a future resident of Norco and uh
[47:19] I want to thank you for the opportunity
[47:20] to address the city council and let me
[47:23] start by saying the city is doing so
[47:25] much good work across the board I agree
[47:27] 100% with the pastor that Norco is a a
[47:31] truly great City we love the traditional
[47:34] American values that Norco symbolizes we
[47:38] embrace the city's love of horses
[47:40] Agriculture and self-reliance Norco
[47:43] embodies the small town American Spirit
[47:45] that seems lacking throughout much of
[47:47] the State uh we love this town and we
[47:50] intend to call it home with that being
[47:53] said I'm here tonight to say my peace
[47:55] with respect to the 4030 Acacia home
[47:58] build it's just down uh as you go north
[48:01] on Hammer um right by the uh gy
[48:05] gymnasium it's it's the new Corner House
[48:08] it's it's gorgeous I think you'll agree
[48:11] um that it was built with love and pride
[48:14] and attention to
[48:15] detail uh the problem you're going to
[48:17] hear about from uh the owner Maria who's
[48:20] going to speak after me tonight is that
[48:22] after uh building plans were approved
[48:25] Corrections were given to the Builder
[48:27] the Builder made those corrections after
[48:30] the home was built after multiple
[48:32] inspections including two electrical
[48:34] inspections after the inspection card
[48:37] was signed the city has decided to
[48:39] change its uh enforcement of a 20 plus
[48:42] year old building code uh to require uh
[48:45] underground rather than above ground uh
[48:48] power source obviously this is added
[48:51] significant delays costs and not to
[48:53] mention
[48:54] heartache I think folks have the common
[48:56] sense to know that changing the
[48:59] rules at the end of the game um and to
[49:03] change the outcome smells to high heaven
[49:06] whether it's legal or not ask yourself
[49:09] this question why now why wait till the
[49:11] very end of the
[49:12] build uh the city has asked if the city
[49:16] had asked to change at the onset this
[49:19] would have been done by
[49:21] now um let me end by saying that the
[49:24] last hour changes to the Bild would seem
[49:27] to go against all the values that uh
[49:29] embody this great
[49:31] town this is the sort of mess you'd
[49:33] expect other places but not in Norco
[49:35] respectfully I request the council's
[49:37] attention to this matter and I
[49:39] appreciate your leadership to help the
[49:41] city come to mutually agreed upon
[49:43] solution uh sincerely thank you thank
[49:46] you sir Alma so I'm assuming you'll
[49:49] reach out and okay our next speaker is
[49:52] Maria Fernandez
[49:59] evening council members and
[50:02] mayor at all um 430 AA it's a home I
[50:06] built with a lot of love for my family
[50:08] we're all been trying to call nor homes
[50:10] we got three homes under construction uh
[50:13] my granddaughter starts school at
[50:14] turning point on uh Norco Street on the
[50:18] 12th but uh now we we're hoping to
[50:21] finish our home by um my daughter's home
[50:24] by the by July but that didn't happen um
[50:27] my concern is and I'm upset about it
[50:30] because I feel like if this would have
[50:32] been given to me in the very beginning
[50:34] of course there was no question about if
[50:35] it's underground requirements that's
[50:37] underground requirement from Power if
[50:40] we're not here to not do what we're
[50:42] supposed to do but for God's sake you
[50:44] know we got a panel that is going put in
[50:46] the north side of the property it looks
[50:48] like we don't even know what it's going
[50:50] to involved yet because we were just
[50:52] told on the 25th of July that um oh it
[50:56] looks like we you guys did not bring the
[50:58] power underground Our rough electrical
[51:01] was inspected on December uh last year
[51:05] our service panel was insed on July
[51:07] 1st and after the service panel passed
[51:11] obviously the next step is we continue
[51:12] calling so they can release this to the
[51:15] power company so then Edison can power
[51:17] up so we can test fire sprinklers
[51:21] um the rest of stuff um air conditioning
[51:26] so on so we're looking for a final
[51:28] towards the mid July and July so we can
[51:30] kind of make that move and now we're all
[51:33] stuck over here kind of crying and being
[51:35] upset and talking to different people at
[51:37] planning I honestly feel like um it's
[51:40] unfortunate that the planning department
[51:42] failed to notify it as even through the
[51:45] progress of it would have been framing
[51:48] okay but I mean when they passed these
[51:50] panels This individuals saw that the
[51:53] electrical was feed through the overhead
[51:56] driving to Norco I see a lot of
[51:58] properties that are newer near build I
[52:00] still see a lot of overhead and I'm not
[52:02] here to argue who's win and that's
[52:04] really not my department I'm glad to
[52:07] follow the rules I've done this for the
[52:09] last 26 years I bu for my family I buil
[52:11] for friends that's my trade I this is
[52:13] not the first home I built and I am just
[52:17] um I would say upset or surprised that
[52:20] it took this department this long to say
[52:24] there is no way I beg and asking hey is
[52:27] there a way we can at least power up the
[52:29] property for now and then in the next
[52:31] few months Edis is going to take at
[52:33] least four months to change the plans
[52:35] it's a big burden and I've asked to
[52:37] please look into it and to end I don't
[52:41] want to just come in complain I love the
[52:43] city if we have wonderful people Public
[52:46] Works have done an awesome job the girls
[52:48] at the counter they're just such a
[52:49] beautiful job they go on and beyond
[52:51] their Duty not to mention Lacy Davis
[52:53] she's such a great person so I'm not
[52:54] here to just complain great people
[52:56] people but right now I feel like a
[52:57] couple people in the planning um
[52:59] organization may be messed up by um not
[53:02] giving us directions in the very
[53:04] beginning thank you for your time did
[53:06] you bu did you also renovate the house
[53:08] next door excuse me was did you renovate
[53:11] the house right next door to that was
[53:12] that your house somebody else I just
[53:14] curious thank you we just put you the
[53:16] corner line yeah thank you ma'am thank
[53:18] you our next speaker is Bonnie slager
[53:29] hi Bonnie good evening everybody do you
[53:32] have well you know it's fair time and so
[53:35] I'm reminding everybody that you can buy
[53:38] Fair buttons now they're $15 ahead of
[53:41] time they're $2 at the gate and uh
[53:45] they're for sale at a lot of places on
[53:47] Sixth Street they're for sale here at
[53:49] City Hall and some places on Hamer and I
[53:53] just happen to have some with me tonight
[53:55] if anybody wants to to buy a fair button
[53:58] uh my second thing that I wanted to
[54:00] mention again tonight is that um with
[54:03] the election coming up uh Norco
[54:07] Horsemen's Association and Rural has
[54:09] partnered to have a candidates night and
[54:12] so I hope everybody will put on their
[54:15] calendar uh September 19th Thursday
[54:18] September
[54:19] 19th um at Nelly Weaver Hall I guess I'm
[54:23] sorry I always call it I guess it's the
[54:25] hall now but it's still Nelly waiver
[54:27] Hall to me and at 6:30 we'll be having
[54:31] candidates night so I think the
[54:34] um I think this Friday is when the the
[54:38] deadline is for money it actually
[54:42] extends if the um if one incumbent does
[54:45] not um put papers in so it'll extend to
[54:49] the 14th okay so so it may go till the
[54:52] 14th correct correct all right cuz then
[54:54] I want to get letters out to all of the
[54:56] candidates so I can't do that until that
[54:59] but anyway so please put on your
[55:01] calendar to come on September 19th and
[55:04] by Fair buttons thank you thank you
[55:07] Bonnie there's no further public comment
[55:11] mayor closing public comments now moving
[55:14] to the consent calendar I
[55:18] oh all right quickly we'll
[55:22] reopen that's all right it I'll be real
[55:26] brief uh Council she's new to Norco yeah
[55:29] right 30 some
[55:30] years no I just want to give my
[55:33] compliments to the young ladies that
[55:35] started the bean stack challenges I
[55:37] remember when I was that age not that
[55:40] long ago and it was so special for us
[55:43] because I was raised in the City of
[55:45] Pomona and they used to have King
[55:47] Arthur's Round Table during the summer
[55:50] at the library for the kids from K
[55:52] through sixth grade and it was a great
[55:55] place for us kids to go we couldn't go
[55:56] to the local plunge we got to go to the
[55:58] library where it was air conditioned but
[56:00] they had something very similar to this
[56:01] so my hats off to these gals that
[56:03] started this and I hope businesses will
[56:05] get behind them and help them their with
[56:07] their support thank you thank
[56:10] you anyone else no further comment mayor
[56:15] going once going twice closed all right
[56:18] moving on to consent calendar uh Greg
[56:21] you are giving me a list
[56:28] not quite a list two items 3K
[56:39] 3M move to approve the rest um
[56:43] I have
[56:47] one second hang on no I also want to
[56:51] pull I want to pull 3F
[56:57] now what's your
[57:04] motion
[57:08] sorry please vote
[57:34] Greg motion passage unanimous thank
[57:44] you you would be first yeah I was going
[57:47] to let you go first well since that's
[57:50] the truth um I just want to get actually
[57:53] just an update on the 2023 General plan
[57:56] annual progress report just a little bit
[57:59] from
[58:04] someone yeah this is uh every year we
[58:06] have to create the annual report based
[58:08] on the activities of pretty much the
[58:10] Community Development Department so
[58:12] we're um required to um there's not
[58:15] really a deadline but we're supposed to
[58:16] submit it yearly so this report is
[58:19] basically a a summary of what has gone
[58:22] on in basically the Planning and
[58:24] Building Division and for were submitt
[58:26] to the state so that's the purpose of
[58:28] this
[58:29] report um I guess my question is and
[58:33] looking at it it
[58:35] looks looks pretty impressive in my
[58:39] opinion
[58:40] um I'm pretty pleased with uh the way
[58:44] the report's laid out I'm really pleased
[58:47] with um the planning that's gone on I'm
[58:51] really pleased I'm just really really
[58:54] pleased I'm I'm I'm I'm impressed and I
[58:57] really want to give you and your
[58:58] department Kudos thank you yeah
[59:01] sincerely and I really really mean that
[59:03] can you let everybody in your department
[59:05] know that yes I will do that thank you
[59:06] and with that I will move to do we close
[59:08] them all at the same time or just one at
[59:09] a time motion
[59:12] to you vote on him one at a time okay so
[59:15] motion to
[59:20] approve please vote
[59:34] much passage unanimous thank you okay
[59:36] Greg
[59:38] 3K thank you
[59:41] mayor um
[59:44] Sam so this
[59:47] item is going to seem somewhat political
[59:50] but there is a staff
[59:52] question
[59:54] um have
[59:57] um uh this change order I I understand
[1:00:01] our our backs are up against the wall on
[1:00:03] this
[1:00:05] um have you or Chad at this point
[1:00:08] reached out to our Edison rep
[1:00:13] representative on this item okay
[1:00:18] and I I don't want to make it political
[1:00:20] but I'm going to do a little bit we have
[1:00:23] a change order from Edison on um on a
[1:00:26] lift station which is legitimate as far
[1:00:29] as the request for change my request is
[1:00:32] um asking staff
[1:00:35] um $6,000 in
[1:00:39] labor $2,200 in material which would
[1:00:43] seem to be the bulk of a job
[1:00:46] $42,000 in
[1:00:51] other as it as it is um a $27
[1:00:56] credit for
[1:00:58] Salvage and a 24% tax rate or another
[1:01:04] $2,000 so a job that's
[1:01:07] approximately
[1:01:09] $10,000 is going to cost the residents
[1:01:12] six almost
[1:01:18] $66,000 and I think
[1:01:20] that it would be prudent to have staff
[1:01:24] reach out to to our our government
[1:01:27] representative and and question this I
[1:01:31] mean it it's
[1:01:33] just we all know Edison screws us right
[1:01:37] they impact every construction job uh
[1:01:40] the the time frame on this is ridiculous
[1:01:43] also but it's
[1:01:44] just I think we need to dig in a little
[1:01:46] bit and and try to fight it so okay and
[1:01:51] like I said I I would appreciate this I
[1:01:55] um I'll make a motion to approve because
[1:01:57] we have to move forward on it but not
[1:02:01] liking it at
[1:02:03] all do we have any thanks
[1:02:06] Sam cover public comments anything from
[1:02:08] Council I have no public
[1:02:11] comments nothing um I second that oh oh
[1:02:16] you did okay
[1:02:19] good please vote
[1:02:27] um for the record Berwin seconded
[1:02:36] it motion passes unanimous thank you
[1:02:39] thank you moving on to
[1:02:50] 3M so my questions are directed to Colin
[1:02:54] on on this item three um this is
[1:02:58] a to move forward with u an agreement
[1:03:02] with cosmon u transaction
[1:03:05] Services um one I'd like an explanation
[1:03:08] on where it says no Financial impact I I
[1:03:12] didn't see where that was addressed in
[1:03:14] this report and also this strikes me as
[1:03:18] a
[1:03:20] um like a cleanup item that was
[1:03:24] uh um
[1:03:26] over
[1:03:28] authorizations
[1:03:30] so it so yes it is it is like a cleanup
[1:03:34] item because uh we need additional
[1:03:37] authority to to go over the $50,000 city
[1:03:41] manager contract Authority on the fiscal
[1:03:44] impact portion I should have spelled
[1:03:46] that out better the reason there was no
[1:03:48] fiscal impact was because uh silverlakes
[1:03:51] is supposed to reimburse the city for
[1:03:53] 100% of the cost of this contract so we
[1:03:55] will pay the
[1:03:57] $90,000 but we'll get reimbursed 100% by
[1:04:00] Silver Lakes so it should be a wash with
[1:04:02] no fiscal impact but you're right that
[1:04:04] should have been spelled out better in
[1:04:05] in the
[1:04:06] section and
[1:04:12] then uh understanding and or
[1:04:15] notwithstanding their their expertise in
[1:04:19] um these type of
[1:04:22] transactions
[1:04:24] um would you feel it would also be
[1:04:26] prudent to have our accounting
[1:04:30] firm look at
[1:04:32] um at this
[1:04:36] situation and also do you think it would
[1:04:39] be prudent to put out a um an RFP for a
[1:04:44] firm that does um more large Sports
[1:04:50] Parks
[1:04:53] financing it's definitely something
[1:04:55] that's staff can look into uh it
[1:04:58] would provide another uh objective set
[1:05:01] of eyes to some of the numbers we're
[1:05:03] looking at so if if Council wants us to
[1:05:07] proceed down that we can go ahead and
[1:05:09] take a look and gather some information
[1:05:10] and come back to council with with what
[1:05:12] that would look like
[1:05:15] okay thank you that's all I
[1:05:18] have did you want to make a motion for
[1:05:23] that okay so you okay I'll move to
[1:05:27] approve but I would like it noted in the
[1:05:28] minutes that baloa management group is
[1:05:30] reimbursing the city for the cost of the
[1:05:33] services
[1:05:49] second please vote
[1:06:03] motion passes with council member or
[1:06:05] mayor protim Newton voting
[1:06:09] no moving on to
[1:06:12] 5A uh community development director
[1:06:15] will answer any questions you have does
[1:06:16] council have any questions or concerns
[1:06:18] about
[1:06:21] 5A do we have any public
[1:06:23] comments no public comments on 5 a uh I
[1:06:27] ask for a motion on
[1:06:29] 5A move to
[1:06:31] approve
[1:06:36] second please
[1:06:39] vote do you need to read this no Mr
[1:06:42] Mayor we read it on the first read
[1:06:49] okay motion passes unanimous thank you
[1:06:53] moving onone to 5B uh does council have
[1:06:55] any question questions or concerns with
[1:07:00] Sam any public comments no public
[1:07:03] comments on 5 b ask for a
[1:07:08] motion have a motion I need a second
[1:07:10] I'll
[1:07:12] second I know I was like that was a
[1:07:14] second second in a second sorry can I
[1:07:18] make the motion sign again I made a
[1:07:23] second please vote oh God I'm G to get
[1:07:38] fired motion passes unanimous thank you
[1:07:41] thank you moving on to 5c this will be
[1:07:43] for the
[1:07:44] attorney uh do we have any questions or
[1:07:46] concerns through
[1:07:49] Colin are there any public comments we
[1:07:52] have one public comment card Dylan
[1:07:54] wimple
[1:07:56] are there public comments on a second
[1:07:58] read yes there are okay okay thank
[1:08:03] you good evening good evening Dylan wimo
[1:08:07] is a resident I just want to say good
[1:08:10] help is hard to find I think you all put
[1:08:11] in a lot of work I think it's entirely
[1:08:12] reasonable to do a onetime adjustment on
[1:08:14] a 20-year-old decision and I support the
[1:08:16] motion thank you sir any other public
[1:08:19] comments no further comments closing
[1:08:21] public comments bringing it back to
[1:08:23] council for motion move to approve
[1:08:30] second please
[1:08:46] vote motion Was Defeated
[1:08:50] um we have council member Newton voting
[1:08:52] no council member grum Gren Meer voting
[1:08:56] no and council member Hannah abstaining
[1:09:00] from
[1:09:06] vote all
[1:09:10] right moving on discussion um order
[1:09:15] presentation for discussion items will
[1:09:16] be staff report presentation Council
[1:09:19] questions of Staff public comment
[1:09:21] Council discussion and
[1:09:22] action we'll begin with 6A
[1:09:27] um G
[1:09:30] Rios nice to see you is this your first
[1:09:32] time presenting it is good luck thank
[1:09:40] you good evening city council tonight I
[1:09:44] have before you the California Native
[1:09:45] tolerant Landscaping
[1:09:48] policy on April 17th of
[1:09:51] 2024 the Narco city council directed
[1:09:54] staff to create a California Native
[1:09:56] drought tolerant Landscaping policy for
[1:09:58] review at a future meeting the proposed
[1:10:01] policy will prioritize the use of
[1:10:03] California Native drought tolerant
[1:10:05] landscaping and will support noro's
[1:10:07] conservation goals along with complying
[1:10:09] with state and local water
[1:10:12] regulations the policy intends to apply
[1:10:14] these practices to City facilities
[1:10:16] during Landscaping upgrades or new
[1:10:18] projects striving to use native drought
[1:10:21] tolerant plants wherever feasible the
[1:10:23] city will make every effort to utilize
[1:10:25] ize California Native drought tolerant
[1:10:27] plans as reasonably
[1:10:30] achievable the purpose of this policy is
[1:10:32] to promote sustainable Landscaping
[1:10:34] practices at City facilities to conserve
[1:10:37] water enhance biodiversity and
[1:10:39] strengthen resilience to drought and
[1:10:41] climate
[1:10:42] variability this policy applies to all
[1:10:44] new Landscaping installations and
[1:10:47] Rehabilitation projects at City
[1:10:49] facilities which will be managed by the
[1:10:51] park
[1:10:52] superintendent the proposed guidelines
[1:10:54] include native plant
[1:10:56] selection the city encourages the
[1:10:58] selection of California Native drought
[1:11:00] tolerant plants as recommended by the
[1:11:02] California Native Plant Society and the
[1:11:05] Riverside Corona resource Conservation
[1:11:10] District water conservation the city
[1:11:13] will prioritize the use of low water use
[1:11:15] plants and efficient irrigation methods
[1:11:17] to significantly reduce water waste
[1:11:20] moreover Turf elimination Turf will be
[1:11:23] eliminated as a ground for option in
[1:11:26] medians Parkways and for purely
[1:11:28] ornamental
[1:11:31] purposes so why native plants native
[1:11:35] plants improve water conservation native
[1:11:37] plants are naturally adapted to thrive
[1:11:39] in Southern California's Aid climate
[1:11:42] requiring minimal supplemental
[1:11:43] irrigation once established this
[1:11:46] characteristic not only prevents Water
[1:11:48] waste but also eleviate strain on local
[1:11:51] Water
[1:11:52] Resources native plant support biodivers
[1:11:55] iers native plants are vital to noro's
[1:11:58] local ecosystems providing essential
[1:12:00] habitat sources food sources and nesting
[1:12:03] sites for indigenous Wildlife species
[1:12:06] including Birds insects and pollinators
[1:12:08] like bees and
[1:12:10] butterflies they also possess natural
[1:12:12] defenses against pests and diseases
[1:12:15] attracting beneficial insects and
[1:12:17] animals that enhance natural Pest
[1:12:20] Management native plants also adapt to
[1:12:23] climate change these species are
[1:12:25] inherently resilient and adaptable to
[1:12:27] climate variability making them well
[1:12:29] suited to cope with changing
[1:12:31] environmental conditions furthermore
[1:12:34] they advanc sustainability initiatives
[1:12:37] native planting serve as effective tools
[1:12:39] for carbon sequestration by absorbing
[1:12:41] carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and
[1:12:44] storing it in vegetation and soil this
[1:12:47] process mitigates carbon emissions and
[1:12:49] supports broader efforts to combat
[1:12:51] climate change
[1:12:55] the city of Norco is committed to
[1:12:57] partnering with the cnps to utilize
[1:13:00] their expertise on native plants and
[1:13:02] Landscaping through resources like
[1:13:04] calscape which is a database that offers
[1:13:07] detailed information on California
[1:13:09] native plants for Effective
[1:13:11] integration collaborations will also
[1:13:13] extend to the
[1:13:15] rccd which provides valuable services
[1:13:18] including Environmental Education soil
[1:13:20] Health assistance and Native Plant
[1:13:22] propagation or reproduction
[1:13:25] additionally Partnerships with the
[1:13:27] Western Municipal Water District will
[1:13:29] focus on promoting sustainable
[1:13:31] landscaping and securing grant funding
[1:13:33] to replace Turf with drought tolerant
[1:13:35] native plants at City
[1:13:40] facilities attached to this policy is
[1:13:43] the native plant species list the
[1:13:45] California native plant species list
[1:13:47] recommended by the cnps and the rccd
[1:13:51] includes plants that require moderate to
[1:13:53] very low water intake the city is
[1:13:55] committed to incorporating these native
[1:13:57] drought tolerant species were ever
[1:13:59] feasible however factors such as plant
[1:14:02] availability and maintenance
[1:14:04] requirements May necessitate the use of
[1:14:06] alternative drought tolerant plants
[1:14:08] including succulent and cacti when
[1:14:10] native options are not available
[1:14:13] furthermore under Norco municipal code
[1:14:16] alander is prohibited and must not be
[1:14:19] planted or maintained within City
[1:14:22] Limits thank you for your time and I
[1:14:24] will now answer any questions that you
[1:14:26] may have does council have any questions
[1:14:28] well done by the way thank
[1:14:31] you Robin I had a question for you on
[1:14:35] some of the native plants that are uh
[1:14:37] listed uh in the report a couple of
[1:14:42] them they're native so they're not
[1:14:44] invasive but they do have a tendency to
[1:14:46] spread pretty aggressively so when the
[1:14:50] planting decisions are made on the parks
[1:14:53] areas uh I would assume asse the
[1:14:55] superintendent would take that into
[1:14:56] consideration
[1:14:58] correct right yes okay perfect so and
[1:15:02] then just for you know if anybody's
[1:15:04] familiar equisetum or horse tail was
[1:15:07] listed in one of these morning glories
[1:15:10] um know at the a department we fight
[1:15:12] those all the time because we do have
[1:15:13] them planted but they do they're very
[1:15:15] aggressive and take over entire areas so
[1:15:19] just want to make sure as we're
[1:15:20] promoting native plants uh within the
[1:15:23] city and just in general for folks at
[1:15:26] home that they um that were
[1:15:28] communicating clearly with some of these
[1:15:30] that um they can be a bit aggressive in
[1:15:34] nature as far as how they spread so
[1:15:37] thank you for your report thank you
[1:15:39] anything yeah yeah I just I had sent in
[1:15:41] a question earlier just looking because
[1:15:43] when we were looking at doing this
[1:15:44] policy some feedback I had given was
[1:15:46] looking at is there a recommended
[1:15:47] percent of natives um and there wasn't
[1:15:51] from our uh subject matter experts so
[1:15:54] thank you
[1:15:59] GRE good report thank you so you
[1:16:02] graduated yeah I graduated last year all
[1:16:06] right well I know Amanda's happy with
[1:16:09] all your work and she's proud of you um
[1:16:12] couple of things i' and to you and to
[1:16:16] staff that I know you've been doing
[1:16:18] this quite um a while um with with
[1:16:24] Native plants this is nothing new to uh
[1:16:28] you know our staff I do appreciate in
[1:16:30] your report that U you took the time to
[1:16:34] list plants that are also available and
[1:16:37] coste
[1:16:39] effective okay um which is something
[1:16:42] that we should always be aware of
[1:16:47] um when you mentioned Oleander
[1:16:51] okay did we check any of these
[1:16:55] plants or Rec recommendation plants for
[1:16:58] toxicity to
[1:17:01] animals no okay
[1:17:05] so you know when you're looking for
[1:17:08] something to
[1:17:09] do maybe just want to run down that
[1:17:13] list we did not but we could we could
[1:17:15] definitely um look through it again yeah
[1:17:18] I
[1:17:19] mean that's all I have good job
[1:17:21] appreciate it
[1:17:25] any other questions
[1:17:27] bwin stay
[1:17:29] nearby um do we have any public
[1:17:32] comments no public comments on this item
[1:17:34] okay closing that bringing back to
[1:17:36] council for Action sorry mayor we do we
[1:17:40] have one Dylan
[1:17:46] wimple all hello
[1:17:49] again hi uh my name is Dylan wimple here
[1:17:52] as a resident of Norco to comment on the
[1:17:54] policy first I'd like to say thank you
[1:17:55] for Council for provid providing the
[1:17:57] direction and thank you to City staff
[1:17:58] for all of the invested time and effort
[1:18:00] that went into this I appreciate our
[1:18:01] commitment as a city to Green Space I
[1:18:03] would ask for a few clarification points
[1:18:05] and request some minor adjustments if
[1:18:07] possible uh we call out that water is a
[1:18:09] precious a precious resource and
[1:18:11] destructive force a native drought
[1:18:12] tolerant Landscaping policy neglects the
[1:18:15] potential use of riparian and other
[1:18:16] native plants that can help drain
[1:18:18] flooded areas that are prone to flooding
[1:18:20] during seasonal Water Events native
[1:18:22] riparian buffers can be installed to
[1:18:24] infiltrate and soak up storm water
[1:18:25] quickly reducing the burden on our storm
[1:18:26] water infrastructure please allow in
[1:18:29] certain instances high water use plants
[1:18:30] and include them in our storm water
[1:18:32] management plan I don't see any trees on
[1:18:34] the list there's shrubs perals and
[1:18:36] everything else trees are major points
[1:18:38] of biodiversity our native Oaks Willows
[1:18:40] and Cherry support hundreds of species
[1:18:42] of caterpillars and are keystones for
[1:18:43] biodiversity please take the opportunity
[1:18:45] to review our street tree list in a
[1:18:47] future session and work to increase
[1:18:48] native tree options ideally giving
[1:18:50] preference to them when site conditions
[1:18:51] allow long-term care and maintenance
[1:18:53] costs will be reduced so I ask Council
[1:18:55] take the opportunity to invest in
[1:18:57] training City staff on the maintenance
[1:18:58] and care of native plantings this will
[1:19:00] help save on cost for failed
[1:19:01] installations and ensures that the right
[1:19:03] plant is chosen for the right place in
[1:19:05] larger projects I'd ask that bloom
[1:19:07] periods are taken into account to
[1:19:08] support pollinators with forage of
[1:19:09] nectar and pollen throughout the entire
[1:19:11] year smaller installations may be exempt
[1:19:14] as side conditions
[1:19:16] allow if suitable plant material is not
[1:19:18] available aset before switching to a
[1:19:19] non-native option an alternative native
[1:19:22] option or an alternative native size so
[1:19:23] if it's a one gallon that we can only
[1:19:25] find in three gallons or Etc that that
[1:19:27] be given preference and finally I would
[1:19:29] ask that as this effort is a municipal
[1:19:32] program that when we contract out work
[1:19:34] and when we uh push for commercial
[1:19:36] applications that we encourage the
[1:19:38] inclusion of native plants in those so
[1:19:40] potentially and Landscaping contracts I
[1:19:42] know we bid everything out and apply
[1:19:44] weighted scores to everything if we can
[1:19:45] include a native plant weight on our
[1:19:48] analyses and sorry my fault and in
[1:19:52] commercial plantings when we're
[1:19:53] requiring native green or we're
[1:19:55] requiring green space and all of these
[1:19:56] if we can offer support to these
[1:19:58] commercial Endeavors make it easy for
[1:19:59] them to just plug and play an approved
[1:20:01] option that works with their conditions
[1:20:03] and take the burden off of them so that
[1:20:04] it's more easily adapted changes like
[1:20:06] those I think will better reflect our
[1:20:07] city and keep a cohesive vision for the
[1:20:09] entire city and I thank you for your
[1:20:11] time thank you
[1:20:12] sir no further comments mayor all right
[1:20:16] bring you back to council for
[1:20:22] Action I'd just like to comment uh thank
[1:20:25] you to this uh staff and the parks
[1:20:27] department for and facilities for
[1:20:30] already implementing some of this if you
[1:20:31] look at the Cathy aavo Memorial if you
[1:20:33] look at the Veterans area the
[1:20:35] Landscaping in front of the community
[1:20:36] center has all been done already with
[1:20:38] this in mind prior to policy so I want
[1:20:40] to thank staff for being proactive on
[1:20:42] that and with that I will move to
[1:20:45] approve second
[1:21:00] please
[1:21:13] vote motion passes unanimous thank you
[1:21:17] moving on to
[1:21:18] 6B um do we have
[1:21:23] any staff report first of all yes
[1:21:28] yes good evening
[1:21:32] Council this agenda item uh 6B is the
[1:21:36] required annual review of accessory
[1:21:38] building our accessory building
[1:21:40] ordinance was is chapter 1868 of our nor
[1:21:42] municipal code and this is uh
[1:21:45] non-habitable accessory buildings
[1:21:47] consisting primarily of um RV garages
[1:21:50] garages and barns so part of when when
[1:21:54] the count adopted this um this ordinance
[1:21:56] it was required to be um reviewed on an
[1:21:59] annual basis so here we are uh the um
[1:22:02] annual review typically consists of uh
[1:22:05] provides the the council well our
[1:22:07] Planning Commission and city council a
[1:22:09] history of what the changes that have
[1:22:11] been done um uh beginning in 2017 when
[1:22:15] the ordinance was adopted and it
[1:22:17] provides um the number of accessory
[1:22:20] buildings that were approved in the
[1:22:21] prior calendar year and it goes into
[1:22:24] issu isues that may have come up as um
[1:22:26] during the year that may warrant some
[1:22:28] changes so tonight's presentation is
[1:22:30] basically going to focus on uh
[1:22:32] discussion items of uh just issues
[1:22:35] potential changes that have come up in
[1:22:37] the previous year that are worthy for of
[1:22:40] consideration to see if there's any
[1:22:41] potential changes so the first
[1:22:43] discussion item um that um is being
[1:22:46] recommended for discussion is that um in
[1:22:48] the approval of an accessory building
[1:22:50] there's required findings that have to
[1:22:52] be made and there are in ordinance staff
[1:22:55] is recommending uh that an additional
[1:22:58] finding be added so that um when an
[1:23:01] accessory building is approved um that
[1:23:04] we analyze and make sure that there's
[1:23:06] still room to add an Adu of the minimum
[1:23:09] size of 800 square feet um I incorrectly
[1:23:12] mentioned 850 Square F feet but for an
[1:23:14] Adu the minimum size that we have to
[1:23:15] allow is 800 square feet now the reason
[1:23:19] being that um we allow for a detached
[1:23:22] accessory dwelling unit or Adu we allow
[1:23:24] 1,200 sare fet but if they can't meet
[1:23:26] all the requirements we have to add a
[1:23:28] minimum allow 800 square fet that could
[1:23:30] potentially end up in the in the pack if
[1:23:32] it's not you know um feasible anywhere
[1:23:35] else so what we want to add is the
[1:23:37] finding that you know after with the
[1:23:39] approving of this garage for example
[1:23:41] garage there's still room to um add an
[1:23:44] Adu that's not going to obstruct the um
[1:23:46] animal keeping area uh Planning
[1:23:48] Commission reviewed this and they they
[1:23:50] agreed with straff recommendation that a
[1:23:52] finding should be added so the second
[1:23:54] item is that we amend the development
[1:23:56] standards to address conversion of
[1:23:58] accessory buildings into adus so um as
[1:24:01] the council is aware uh in addition to
[1:24:03] allowing a detached new newly
[1:24:05] constructed Adu uh residents do have the
[1:24:08] ability to convert uh an accessory
[1:24:11] building like for
[1:24:12] example a garage into an additional Adu
[1:24:15] so what what uh the discussion was the
[1:24:18] plan with the Planning Commission is
[1:24:19] that we look at the development
[1:24:21] standards of the accessory buildings and
[1:24:24] um potentially amend them to not make it
[1:24:27] as easy I guess to facilitate a
[1:24:30] conversion so what the the Planning
[1:24:31] Commission directed or or recommended
[1:24:33] that we look at the
[1:24:36] um uh the uh RV garages and the RV
[1:24:40] garages are allowed at 1,000 sare ft²
[1:24:42] with an additional 400 square F feet uh
[1:24:44] the recommendation is that we consider
[1:24:46] um removing the additional 400 square F
[1:24:48] feet and maybe making them more narrow
[1:24:51] uh so that they're basically built only
[1:24:52] to accommodate uh RVs or or structure as
[1:24:56] opposed to an additional Adu uh the
[1:24:58] second item for discussion is that we C
[1:25:00] centralize the requirement for an AA or
[1:25:03] an animal keeping open animal keeping
[1:25:04] area in chapter 1868 right now the way
[1:25:07] it's written it just defers to the
[1:25:09] underlying Zone staff has recommended
[1:25:11] that as part of the development
[1:25:12] standards the um the provision for the
[1:25:15] AA uh be specified in in chapter 1868
[1:25:19] and plan commission said yes that's a
[1:25:21] good idea so um the other item for
[1:25:24] discussion is that we codify the number
[1:25:26] of accessory buildings Allowed by type
[1:25:29] um you know for example the code allows
[1:25:32] RV
[1:25:32] garage uh and smaller buildings 864 s
[1:25:36] feet and Barnes um the recommendation is
[1:25:38] that we codify for example that only one
[1:25:41] RV
[1:25:42] garage um with be allowed and not
[1:25:46] several um and that if conditions
[1:25:48] warranted they can apply for a variance
[1:25:50] to allow for more uh another point of
[1:25:52] discussion is that um we did get a a
[1:25:56] letter written by a a property owner
[1:25:58] that we look at the height of of for
[1:26:02] example RV garages versus animal keeping
[1:26:04] structures um right now the height of an
[1:26:06] RV garage is uh the wall actually the
[1:26:09] wall is is uh taller than um 16 ft than
[1:26:13] was it allowed for a um animal keeping
[1:26:15] structure which is limited at at 10 ft
[1:26:18] um and that we consider the concern was
[1:26:21] that we're more permissive for arvi
[1:26:23] garage height as opposed to a barn but
[1:26:26] there was a reason for um why we limited
[1:26:29] it because again for um an RV garage the
[1:26:33] cap is at a th000 square feet for a barn
[1:26:35] it could go much bigger depending on the
[1:26:38] number of animal units and hence you're
[1:26:40] you can go ultimately go transition up
[1:26:42] to 18 ft but it starts low because you
[1:26:45] know you're when it's a big structure
[1:26:47] you're actually breaking up the
[1:26:48] appearance of a big block as opposed to
[1:26:51] um uh as opposed to a big large um um
[1:26:55] Square so uh and finally um increase the
[1:26:59] square footage of buildings except from
[1:27:01] Planning Commission review um let me
[1:27:04] Backtrack on the the height reviewing
[1:27:06] the height the commission said you know
[1:27:07] just basically leave it alone and there
[1:27:09] is a variance process to um you know to
[1:27:12] um warrant discussion for individual
[1:27:14] Property Owners on a case-by Case basis
[1:27:16] so the last point of discussion is that
[1:27:19] um increasing the square footage of
[1:27:22] buildings that are exempt from Planning
[1:27:23] Commission review right now buildings
[1:27:25] that are 240 ft don't require Planning
[1:27:27] Commission review they still have to
[1:27:29] meet with the requirements but they
[1:27:30] don't require Planning Commission review
[1:27:33] the recommendation was that we possibly
[1:27:35] go all the way up to 864 square feet for
[1:27:38] exempt from Planning Commission review
[1:27:40] Planning Commission uh reie uh basically
[1:27:42] said that no let's just leave it how it
[1:27:44] is to only exempt those that are 240
[1:27:46] square fet or less so again part of the
[1:27:50] this is just discussion uh part of the
[1:27:53] um required um anual review of accessory
[1:27:55] building uh ordinance chapter
[1:27:57] 1868 um and discussion for issues and um
[1:28:02] concerns are always discussed as part of
[1:28:04] our review and the purpose of this um
[1:28:07] agenda item is for the uh uh city
[1:28:09] council to review um uh the planning
[1:28:12] commission's recommendations and
[1:28:13] determine whether we should move forward
[1:28:15] with code amendments and with that I
[1:28:17] will conclude and answer any questions
[1:28:18] thank you uh Council have any questions
[1:28:22] bwin
[1:28:30] Greg there we go
[1:28:34] um on that explanation where it was um
[1:28:39] concerned from the property owner that's
[1:28:41] on page 288 of 341 yeah U middle of the
[1:28:45] page Wall height
[1:28:48] um
[1:28:51] so it's on a barn yes it's 10 feet from
[1:28:58] the eve yes right
[1:29:02] but we can go up to 18
[1:29:06] ft right so I don't really understand
[1:29:09] the concern in in this
[1:29:12] case that since it can be larger right
[1:29:17] yes then let's say the RV storage so
[1:29:26] yeah I was just trying to it it didn't
[1:29:28] read real clear to me on that
[1:29:33] um so it goes back to something you said
[1:29:37] earlier um where we can impact pacas or
[1:29:41] animal keeping areas based on what's
[1:29:45] feasible so my question
[1:29:47] is how how do we determine
[1:29:51] feasibility um is as far
[1:29:55] as I don't like the idea of giving up an
[1:29:58] animaling area for an Adu or any other
[1:30:01] structure so um would it be feasible um
[1:30:07] like in a definition to say well you
[1:30:08] have to remove a another structure to
[1:30:11] make your Adu fit instead of impacting
[1:30:14] the animal keeping
[1:30:17] area so definition of what's feasible
[1:30:21] and how would we determine that well
[1:30:24] gener generally speaking what staff um
[1:30:26] was looking at for example um accessory
[1:30:29] buildings these like U garages barns are
[1:30:32] not um they're not an automatic approval
[1:30:35] so it's a discretionary approval by the
[1:30:37] Planning Commission so they can be
[1:30:38] denied M ad cannot they they're
[1:30:41] ministerial they don't have to go before
[1:30:42] the Planning Commission they're approved
[1:30:44] at staff level uh and we have to allow
[1:30:47] them we have to so what we were staff's
[1:30:52] um uh
[1:30:55] consensus on this was basically and in
[1:30:57] the consensus by the Planning Commission
[1:30:59] was that when we look at accessory
[1:31:01] buildings like an nvy garage um we need
[1:31:04] to look and see whether if some in
[1:31:08] addition to that garage if somebody
[1:31:09] comes in and wants to build an Adu we
[1:31:12] want to make sure that there's still
[1:31:13] room for that Adu outside of for
[1:31:17] primarily the animal keeping area so
[1:31:19] basically how they would show that is
[1:31:20] maybe just do like a square of at least
[1:31:23] 800 square Fe showing hey you know you
[1:31:25] guys allow This Barn uh we can still
[1:31:28] make provision for an Adu that's not
[1:31:30] going to be inside the Packa or obstruct
[1:31:33] the access to it so they just they would
[1:31:35] have to show it demonstrate if they
[1:31:38] can't um demonstrate well then I guess
[1:31:40] they would have to reduce the size of
[1:31:42] their um accessory building if they
[1:31:46] can't I'm sure that it could accommodate
[1:31:47] because again if we can accommodate if
[1:31:49] we after applying all the restrictions
[1:31:51] like a Packa access to it all the step
[1:31:54] backs and you can't at least accommodate
[1:31:56] a a new detached 800t Adu it's got to go
[1:32:00] either in the front yard or in what we
[1:32:02] have as our animal keeping area and it
[1:32:04] could be the Packa or the animal keep
[1:32:05] and that's what we want to avoid
[1:32:08] okay I like that we can become proactive
[1:32:11] on this right yes that's the that's the
[1:32:13] intent thanks to you planning staff and
[1:32:16] Planning
[1:32:19] Commission but they you can also put an
[1:32:21] Adu in your front yard you can if that's
[1:32:24] the only place that's left yeah
[1:32:27] MH or take out the animal keeping pretty
[1:32:30] much
[1:32:32] yes
[1:32:35] okay good luck thank
[1:32:37] you C but I appreciate that Alma
[1:32:42] thanks yes what is the cost for a
[1:32:46] variance um it's listed in some cases if
[1:32:49] if this were to go through someone could
[1:32:51] apply for a variance what would the cost
[1:32:52] be for a variance the cost for variance
[1:32:55] in in addition to um the review for the
[1:32:57] accessory building is
[1:33:04] $3,885 and then um to build on what Greg
[1:33:08] had said with the barns I drew myself a
[1:33:10] little picture so I guess I'm thinking
[1:33:12] most of our lots are half acre so the
[1:33:14] way our accessory building ordinance is
[1:33:16] currently written your barn can have 10
[1:33:18] foot walls but it can go quite up to 18
[1:33:22] but your RV garage can have 16t yes so
[1:33:27] in that sense you are allowed a higher
[1:33:29] building right not in the center but on
[1:33:31] the side of your walls um on the same
[1:33:33] size lot yes which was the the instance
[1:33:36] where you know I think that person saw
[1:33:38] an RV garage and thought well I can
[1:33:40] build my barn in a similar fashion and
[1:33:43] then found out that they could not
[1:33:45] correct that it well based on the
[1:33:47] description that they were providing us
[1:33:49] it was intended for a barn so that's
[1:33:50] where the Restriction came in okay and
[1:33:53] then in the staff
[1:33:55] report the recommendation cuz some of
[1:33:58] them had to do with each other so I was
[1:34:00] you know reading them all trying to
[1:34:01] connect all the dots
[1:34:03] um there was a suggestion of limiting
[1:34:07] the size then of the RV garage so that
[1:34:10] it would be a narrow building if the
[1:34:12] walls were that high yes the the
[1:34:14] suggestion basically came from you know
[1:34:17] you're creating situations where you're
[1:34:18] it's not easily converted into
[1:34:20] a Adu so what was the recommendation is
[1:34:24] that to eliminate the additional 400 ft
[1:34:26] that is allowed in addition to 1,000
[1:34:28] square F feet and then um establish some
[1:34:31] kind of limit as to the width of it to
[1:34:33] where it's only wide enough to basically
[1:34:35] accommodate um what's intended for an RV
[1:34:38] or a large vehicle so that way it would
[1:34:42] be more of a skinny building um as
[1:34:45] opposed to something that's wide that
[1:34:46] could be turned into potentially an 18
[1:34:49] okay and then what would the limit be
[1:34:50] because I know one of the
[1:34:51] recommendations later on that that did
[1:34:54] not the Planning
[1:34:56] Commission didn't recommend to adopt was
[1:34:58] to allow more of a ministerial approval
[1:35:00] for buildings that are 864 square feet
[1:35:03] so are we talking about other than an RV
[1:35:05] Garage in that
[1:35:07] instance anything that's 8 uh no it
[1:35:10] would it yes anything the height limit
[1:35:13] to be ministerial would be at at 8 foot
[1:35:15] walls and 14 foot tall so yes it would
[1:35:18] not include an arv
[1:35:21] garage and 86 64 ft and under okay I
[1:35:25] just wanted to follow where all those
[1:35:27] pieces were were coming okay I think
[1:35:29] those are all my questions right now
[1:35:30] thank you
[1:35:33] Robin um what would it take to outright
[1:35:36] ban
[1:35:37] them ban accessory buildings because the
[1:35:41] problem that we have is that we're
[1:35:42] trying to promote animaling large plot
[1:35:45] farming small plot farming we're trying
[1:35:48] to promote a lifestyle of Elbow Room
[1:35:50] with the last one left and so in
[1:35:54] um I'm I'm actually surprised because we
[1:35:57] actually have an Adu being built in the
[1:35:58] front yard on somebody on California
[1:36:00] Avenue and because they claimed they
[1:36:03] didn't have the room in the back when
[1:36:04] they did have room in the back but your
[1:36:07] hands were tied and so I think that if
[1:36:12] we're being forced to do this I think we
[1:36:14] need to get rid of accessory buildings I
[1:36:17] think I I totally get people want to
[1:36:19] park motor homes and those kind of
[1:36:20] things but how many motor homes will
[1:36:23] take to sustain 7,000 rooftops to
[1:36:26] maintain a Halfacre
[1:36:27] parcel what would it take a Cote
[1:36:30] Amendment from uh approved and adopted
[1:36:33] by Council great thank you uh do we have
[1:36:35] any public
[1:36:37] comments no public comments on this item
[1:36:39] right closing public comments bringing
[1:36:41] back to council for comments
[1:36:47] action always was like a good discussion
[1:36:49] with you Kevin so I think Banning
[1:36:54] accessory buildings would be difficult
[1:37:03] um where would I park my horse
[1:37:06] trailer horse trailer isn't as high as a
[1:37:09] motor
[1:37:11] home
[1:37:13] um so are you suggesting all accessory
[1:37:16] buildings or just certain uses like an
[1:37:17] RV garage I think RV garages I think
[1:37:20] that's really what I'm talking I'm
[1:37:21] talking about workshops I'm talking
[1:37:23] about the these big high
[1:37:24] structures that
[1:37:27] um that we've allowed in the past and
[1:37:30] you know you know what you can you can
[1:37:32] blame the city
[1:37:34] council but the reality is this is the
[1:37:38] state doing this this is their fault and
[1:37:42] the reality is I'd rather have a horse
[1:37:44] in the backyard or a workshop in the
[1:37:46] backyard than a frig RV because remember
[1:37:49] Orange Park Acres he used to shoe over
[1:37:52] there guess what what that's RV Heaven
[1:37:55] there's no horses there
[1:37:57] anymore and it's not even so much the
[1:37:59] horses it's that we are becoming RV
[1:38:03] heaven and so I I'm not even proposing
[1:38:06] we do that but I think that the reality
[1:38:08] is is they put in an RV you have animal
[1:38:10] keeping so it goes on top of that or it
[1:38:13] goes in the front yard and if we buck
[1:38:15] that we'd have the privilege of the
[1:38:17] State of California saying guess what
[1:38:19] you people don't know how to Zone and
[1:38:21] they're just going to rip your zoning
[1:38:22] away and I see the leac cities guy he's
[1:38:24] shaking his head they're shaking their
[1:38:25] head up and down up and down you don't
[1:38:27] think that won't
[1:38:29] happen that's why we can't play around
[1:38:32] as Council people and I'm not saying we
[1:38:33] do but this is a very serious situation
[1:38:37] they walk up to the counter they slap it
[1:38:39] down say I'm building an Adu and I'm
[1:38:40] going to put it in my front yard because
[1:38:42] in my opinion it doesn't fit in the
[1:38:45] backyard so I think we really need to we
[1:38:48] need to be coldhearted on this and maybe
[1:38:51] go to our legislators I mean I know it
[1:38:53] doesn't help because we're on the wrong
[1:38:55] side of the aisle but the reality is is
[1:38:59] that is the reality and we're trying to
[1:39:01] protect the last one we're the last
[1:39:03] Community like
[1:39:04] this so you know a lot of people right
[1:39:07] now you right now we're hearing about
[1:39:09] the flight from the cities because of
[1:39:11] the disasters they' become and Norco is
[1:39:13] a Target and by the way just so we're
[1:39:15] clear everybody thinks we're so
[1:39:17] expensive we're cheap compared to you
[1:39:20] know what you buy a postage stamp in Los
[1:39:22] VES you're going to pay $2 million and
[1:39:25] it's it's half the size of this room so
[1:39:29] I don't know I'm not saying we do it but
[1:39:31] I think we need to be serious about this
[1:39:34] are we going to be RV Heaven I get the
[1:39:36] horse trailer situation maybe we need to
[1:39:38] do some investigation in terms of that
[1:39:42] but it's the adus and I and we are doing
[1:39:45] everything we possibly can to legalize
[1:39:49] adus School District doesn't want to
[1:39:51] play ball with us that's what what's
[1:39:53] happening they they're like hey we need
[1:39:55] that money it's not my fault there're I
[1:39:57] mean I know what everybody says but
[1:39:59] school district is not in great
[1:40:00] financial shape I don't care what
[1:40:02] anybody says right now nobody can be in
[1:40:04] good shape because we don't know what's
[1:40:05] going to happen we all pretend like you
[1:40:08] know nothing's happening there's no
[1:40:09] recession it's a crazy it's a crazy time
[1:40:13] and all I'm trying to do is protect our
[1:40:15] lifestyle how do we do that and how do
[1:40:18] we make those hard choices I mean you
[1:40:20] know Greg you and I we I mean my first
[1:40:22] meeting we were talking about this right
[1:40:24] Berwin that was my first topic of
[1:40:26] discussion were were huge
[1:40:30] buildings
[1:40:31] so we have to we have to decide how does
[1:40:35] this fit into our scheme of what we want
[1:40:38] Norco to look like in 25 years that's
[1:40:42] the key we lose animals or small lot uh
[1:40:45] if we lose what keeps the large
[1:40:48] Lots the next councils are going to come
[1:40:51] along and they're just going to cut them
[1:40:53] up because the way communities like ours
[1:40:56] fall is they go well you know what if we
[1:40:58] just reone that part that'll bring us
[1:41:00] enough property tax that we'll be able
[1:41:03] to take care of this part but then
[1:41:04] eventually you go well that part's not
[1:41:06] so expensive and besides that those
[1:41:08] streets are kind of old and then if you
[1:41:09] get districts then this District what
[1:41:11] they'll do is they'll say well I don't
[1:41:14] care about that it's happening Riverside
[1:41:15] they're going to run those lines right
[1:41:16] through one of their own districts I
[1:41:19] mean you don't think that won't happen
[1:41:20] in Norco
[1:41:23] so I don't mean to I just what do you
[1:41:26] guys want to do how do we want to
[1:41:27] protect it can I yeah please thanks I'm
[1:41:30] I'm
[1:41:31] done no you're not
[1:41:37] um on your discussion
[1:41:39] item
[1:41:41] um explain a little more on the last
[1:41:44] item increase the square footage of a
[1:41:45] building exempt from Planning Commission
[1:41:48] review and what was what specifics with
[1:41:53] that that and what was the planning
[1:41:55] commission's um
[1:41:57] opinion so uh the the to give you a
[1:42:00] little more explanation on that right
[1:42:02] now um accessory buildings like
[1:42:04] workshops that are no taller than 14t to
[1:42:07] the peak and 8ot to the wall if they're
[1:42:09] 240 feet or less we review them over the
[1:42:13] counter they don't have to go to
[1:42:14] Planning Commission 240 240 okay the
[1:42:17] recommendation here was to increase the
[1:42:19] exemption to for buildings up to 864 ft
[1:42:23] where we would just approve them at
[1:42:25] staff level and the reason for that is
[1:42:27] that those are rarely an issue they're
[1:42:29] very easily able to accommodate all the
[1:42:32] requirements and I have not seen one
[1:42:34] that has been denied by Planning
[1:42:36] Commission because usually when they get
[1:42:37] there they've met all the requirements
[1:42:38] so it would be easier for the uh members
[1:42:41] of the community to get those approved
[1:42:43] because they're they're smaller Planning
[1:42:45] Commission said no let's let's leave it
[1:42:47] as it is 240 we want those to keep
[1:42:49] coming to the Planning Commission that
[1:42:51] was our recommendation and um yeah
[1:42:53] that's okay so
[1:42:55] currently we're just stopping at 240 for
[1:42:59] staff approval correct that's the code
[1:43:00] that's the way it's it's
[1:43:02] codified nothing against staff I concur
[1:43:05] though with the Planning Commission
[1:43:06] recommendation only for an extra set
[1:43:09] ofis yes right
[1:43:13] um you know like we talked earlier about
[1:43:17] feasibility right okay
[1:43:21] um that's all I have right now thank you
[1:43:23] anybody
[1:43:25] else do we have a motion do we have a
[1:43:29] thought
[1:43:30] discussion we've already asked for
[1:43:32] public
[1:43:35] com so if if I can kind of help guide
[1:43:38] the discussion a little bit um yeah so
[1:43:40] again this is just a discussion this is
[1:43:42] just uh to get some input on whether we
[1:43:44] should move forward so if I can start
[1:43:46] with the first item uh the first item is
[1:43:48] whether we should go ahead and um come
[1:43:50] back with at a future time I mean this
[1:43:52] is not something think it's in a hurry
[1:43:54] but that we should come back with a um
[1:43:57] uh an amendment for a finding that you
[1:44:00] know they can still accommodated ad
[1:44:02] you that's my question yeah so to go by
[1:44:05] one by one by these and see yes I love
[1:44:07] that so I agree with the first
[1:44:11] bullet does anybody else not
[1:44:14] agree okay
[1:44:18] okay okay so that's that's okay and the
[1:44:21] second one is amend the standards for
[1:44:22] example the commission told us to focus
[1:44:24] on just um the um RV garages to where
[1:44:28] you know maybe put us a limit on how how
[1:44:31] wide they can be and eliminate the 400
[1:44:33] sare F feet additional 400 square feet
[1:44:36] and then can you just review almost so
[1:44:38] what if it's not an RV garage how large
[1:44:39] could someone they they could no longer
[1:44:41] be, 1400 square feet right because that
[1:44:43] was only well it's not I mean again The
[1:44:46] Way It Was Written it's a large vehicle
[1:44:48] so it could be a large truck I mean
[1:44:50] pickup truck it could be just a large
[1:44:52] vehicle
[1:44:54] so then that would limmit all buildings
[1:44:56] to 1,000 square F feet just what's for a
[1:44:59] large vehicle parking building which for
[1:45:00] example we keep using the RV because
[1:45:02] that was the was the original right so
[1:45:04] I'm exempting animal keeping from
[1:45:06] because that depends on animal units but
[1:45:07] let's say I wanted to build a workshop
[1:45:09] what's the size limit for my workshop
[1:45:11] 864 feet okay this would be just for the
[1:45:14] ones that are 100 1,000 square feet and
[1:45:16] an additional 400 square feet on the
[1:45:18] side so the suggestion is to amend that
[1:45:22] that type of building
[1:45:23] only to where we would no longer allow
[1:45:26] an additional squ ft it's just a th000
[1:45:28] ft and then just make a maximum uh a
[1:45:32] what is it width to where it's you know
[1:45:35] it's intended only to accommodate a
[1:45:37] large vehicle and not converted into to
[1:45:39] a house okay so you could have your
[1:45:40] animal keeping
[1:45:42] facility and up to 864 square feet for
[1:45:45] some other kind of Workshop out building
[1:45:49] or an RV structure that would be
[1:45:54] below a th000 square feet I'm assuming
[1:45:56] well it would stay a thousand but you
[1:45:57] would make it just more narrow so it
[1:45:59] could be long and skinny yeah that's
[1:46:02] that's kind of what would they ask us to
[1:46:03] consider but again okay I just want to
[1:46:05] make sure I'm understanding the
[1:46:06] recommendations yeah and again we would
[1:46:08] just come back with the recommendation
[1:46:09] for how we would change it if if the
[1:46:11] council decides uh determines that we
[1:46:13] should move forward with uh a code
[1:46:15] Amendment okay yeah mayor if I may so I
[1:46:17] think that the general direction is good
[1:46:19] we can what you decide today we'll draft
[1:46:21] and then you can ultimately decide
[1:46:22] tomorrow modify as you give them more
[1:46:27] thought any other comments
[1:46:32] yeah Al on
[1:46:35] that vehicle parking buildings versus
[1:46:39] the large animal keeping shelters MH
[1:46:42] should they be the same height what
[1:46:43] height are you talking about the Wall
[1:46:46] height the Wall height yes okay what how
[1:46:48] tall are you talking about the the
[1:46:51] concern was that for a large L vehicle
[1:46:53] parking building like an RV garage we
[1:46:55] allow Wall height of
[1:46:58] 18t 16 my my apologies 16 feet and then
[1:47:01] ultimate Peak height at 18 feet for an
[1:47:04] animal keeping structure the Wall height
[1:47:06] maximum is 10 feet but but it could you
[1:47:09] know kind of go up to um the peak height
[1:47:12] maximum at 18 so that's where the
[1:47:15] concern the concern was like Hey you
[1:47:17] know you allow a taller wall high for an
[1:47:19] Arvy than you do for an animal keeping
[1:47:21] structure but there was a reason for
[1:47:23] that when back in 2017 when all of this
[1:47:26] was drafted so that that was the
[1:47:30] conc taller the wall is on a horse
[1:47:33] barn the harder the temperature control
[1:47:37] for the animals is that's why most of
[1:47:40] them standard are about 8 ft everywhere
[1:47:43] and you go on up to 12 or M 14 then
[1:47:48] you're going to have a hard time
[1:47:50] controlling the the temperature like the
[1:47:53] cold weather it's colder in there in a
[1:47:55] taller building it's hotter in the
[1:47:57] summertime in a taller building so I
[1:48:00] couldn't imagine I mean there's some
[1:48:01] people probably do it but
[1:48:04] uh I couldn't imagine having one animal
[1:48:08] keeping Barn 18t walls on it or 16
[1:48:11] whatever Planning Commission said just
[1:48:14] they their consensus was just leave it
[1:48:15] as as it is if somebody needs a variance
[1:48:18] we can consider it on a Case by case
[1:48:20] basis
[1:48:21] so and staff concurs with anyway that's
[1:48:24] my
[1:48:26] nickelsworth so I'm
[1:48:29] sorry Rob you're okay
[1:48:32] um where was
[1:48:39] it I want to let that wall height slip
[1:48:42] away yet
[1:48:48] um I'm still thinking about this well I
[1:48:51] think I'm okay on the the build an
[1:48:53] exemption on the square footage um you
[1:48:56] know as Berwin said I think based on
[1:48:59] that letter um 10 foot
[1:49:02] high from the the Eve for animal keeping
[1:49:06] is fine right
[1:49:10] um and you can go up to
[1:49:13] 16 at the ridge 18 at thege 18 on the
[1:49:17] ridge all the way still an animal an yes
[1:49:20] you it could just kind of progress all
[1:49:24] right I think I'm good with all these
[1:49:26] discussion items to okay
[1:49:29] yeah let staff move forward a little bit
[1:49:32] more with the
[1:49:35] commission okay so it sounds like
[1:49:36] there's consensus based on a
[1:49:38] recommendation yeah clarification
[1:49:40] clarifying question you say move forward
[1:49:42] with the commission because they gave
[1:49:44] their feedback on this I just want to
[1:49:46] make sure understand what you're saying
[1:49:47] well yeah but I mean staff would what
[1:49:49] the commission tying some of these
[1:49:51] discussion items together and I would
[1:49:53] assume that you
[1:49:55] would whatever these changes are run it
[1:49:58] at the Planning Commission yeah so it
[1:50:00] sounds like the clation that uh
[1:50:03] Catherine um council member Alman is
[1:50:05] saying is move forward with with the
[1:50:07] recommendations of the Planning
[1:50:08] Commission and come back with a code uh
[1:50:10] code amendment to address all of them
[1:50:12] how based on the recommendation so all
[1:50:14] that would come back I guess what I was
[1:50:16] saying then is if there's any other
[1:50:17] little changes is
[1:50:20] discussion what has to come back in to
[1:50:22] run that to plan yeah it oh I see yeah
[1:50:26] the actual yes the ordinances will go
[1:50:28] that in then they'll come back to us
[1:50:29] with the actual fleshed out language so
[1:50:32] so we're good
[1:50:35] okay okay moving
[1:50:37] on thank you
[1:50:39] [Music]
[1:50:40] um mayor if I may yes might be if if you
[1:50:43] I would suggest we take item D next
[1:50:46] since I know we have you have a
[1:50:48] colleague from the mayor from City of
[1:50:49] camesa here all right so we will jump to
[1:50:52] d uh consider the city's city of Norco
[1:50:56] current participation League of
[1:50:57] California cities and future
[1:50:58] participation in California contract
[1:51:00] cities
[1:51:01] Association Lori thank you mayor so this
[1:51:03] was brought up at a prior on June 5th
[1:51:06] council meeting to come back to you for
[1:51:08] a discussion so we've provided you with
[1:51:11] some information about both about the
[1:51:12] league of California cities the members
[1:51:15] um the member benefits that we receive
[1:51:17] the du's amounts and so forth so and we
[1:51:20] do have tonight our um our regional
[1:51:22] public affairs manager Jesse Ramirez is
[1:51:24] here and then yeah I just learned
[1:51:26] tonight Linda Molina from the city of
[1:51:28] camesa is here tonight so they're here
[1:51:30] on this item so really we're looking for
[1:51:32] direction from you on this item with
[1:51:35] regard to our membership in the league
[1:51:37] of cities I provided some comments to
[1:51:39] you in the staff report and then also as
[1:51:41] part of that discussion you it was um
[1:51:43] direction to also for you to discuss
[1:51:45] contract cities so contract City
[1:51:47] separate organization about 80 members
[1:51:49] most of those members virtually all
[1:51:51] those members are also cities members
[1:51:53] they're really focused on cities that
[1:51:56] have that Contract Services model like
[1:51:58] we do here um and they provide other
[1:52:00] sorts of levels of of advocacy and
[1:52:04] support to cities that provide Contract
[1:52:07] Services through the contract model the
[1:52:09] Lakewood plan if you will to the
[1:52:10] old-timers that's what it was called so
[1:52:13] with that we're just looking for your
[1:52:14] direction and discussion great um so
[1:52:19] I'll just bring it to council for
[1:52:20] comments I guess because I was the one
[1:52:22] that kind of started this ball rolling
[1:52:23] and the reason I did is uh I was having
[1:52:27] some issues with some of the things that
[1:52:28] were occurring but a lot of those issues
[1:52:29] have now gone
[1:52:31] away um the new chair of the state folks
[1:52:38] uh is actually from Ranch kukamonga we
[1:52:40] had a we have a very like interest in
[1:52:43] that both of our cities are trying to
[1:52:45] figure out a way to fairly receive some
[1:52:48] of the funding coming from uh the
[1:52:51] warehousing and the issue with the
[1:52:52] warehousing of course is that for
[1:52:54] whatever reason they kind of pulled the
[1:52:55] rug out from under us we get the trucks
[1:52:57] they get the money and so that was
[1:53:01] extremely upsetting but what most upset
[1:53:03] me was the fact that the uh League of
[1:53:05] California cities we actually had a
[1:53:08] decision to go forward with trying to
[1:53:09] make it more fair and what happened was
[1:53:12] the cities that had the warehouses and
[1:53:15] were making all this money they went
[1:53:16] outside the league and there were no
[1:53:19] ramifications and they lobbied actually
[1:53:21] against the position of our city um then
[1:53:25] there was sort of a purge of a lot of
[1:53:27] the folks that um were from our region
[1:53:31] and there was a purge at the state level
[1:53:35] a lot of that has now changed um we
[1:53:39] Aaron sassy was was a pretty outstanding
[1:53:44] um uh Regional rep for us and this last
[1:53:48] meeting I have to say was really
[1:53:49] excellent I now kind of wish everybody
[1:53:51] had been there uh it was really put
[1:53:53] together well I really appreciated it I
[1:53:56] sense there's a big change coming I had
[1:53:58] a long talk with um the rep that if
[1:54:03] that's the rep for rev and tax revenue
[1:54:06] and Taxation um there's a new direction
[1:54:09] that appears we can go is the Inland
[1:54:11] Empire um these are all very interesting
[1:54:14] changes the reason that I thought about
[1:54:16] maybe going to contract cities is the
[1:54:18] fact that contract cities seems to be
[1:54:23] more in touch with what this housing is
[1:54:28] really doing to cities it's destroying
[1:54:30] them and it's it's it's literally C it's
[1:54:33] literally giving developers a license to
[1:54:35] steal and we're facing it right now in
[1:54:38] the city of Norco and
[1:54:40] so that said
[1:54:43] the the contract cities are pretty weak
[1:54:47] at the moment in the Inland Empire I'm
[1:54:50] also sensing that Within the Inland
[1:54:53] Empire there is a new Strength um in
[1:54:56] terms of the cities that are coming
[1:54:58] together there's a real frustration with
[1:55:01] how Northern California is kind of
[1:55:03] pushing us around so my personal opinion
[1:55:07] is is I think we need to and and not
[1:55:09] that it's me but it looks like I'm about
[1:55:11] ready to be the chair of revent tax
[1:55:13] which means I will have the ability to
[1:55:15] really tune get in touch and in tune
[1:55:18] with ranch kukamonga and I'm very
[1:55:21] pleased uh that that may happen um I
[1:55:25] also think let's just face it League of
[1:55:28] cities the most important part A lot of
[1:55:30] times of the conferences is that we're
[1:55:32] connecting with the other cities um I
[1:55:35] know a lot of the Cities now that have
[1:55:36] left that I was talking to with before
[1:55:38] are now coming back to the league of
[1:55:40] cities and so with that said um I'm I'm
[1:55:44] open to discussions and that kind of
[1:55:45] thing but I just wanted to to let you
[1:55:47] know that my position is I think at
[1:55:50] least for the coming year we need to
[1:55:51] stay with the Le with the league um do
[1:55:54] we have any comments or anything
[1:55:59] questions okay um would would you mind
[1:56:02] if we invited up uh our league
[1:56:06] representative or our our Inland Empire
[1:56:09] chairman I don't know well I just want
[1:56:11] to make sure I can come on up and then
[1:56:14] we'll have public comments after
[1:56:18] that long time no see thank you for this
[1:56:21] opportunity uh my name is Linda Molina
[1:56:24] I'm here from a city much like uh Norco
[1:56:27] calesa it's a rural City we're just a
[1:56:29] little bit smaller by population and
[1:56:31] square footage square miles I should say
[1:56:34] but I'm really here um as president of
[1:56:36] Riverside County Cal cities and here to
[1:56:39] talk to the value of Cal cities this
[1:56:42] year has been so challenging every year
[1:56:44] we have at least, 1500 new bills good
[1:56:47] ones bad ones and it's up to the city's
[1:56:50] representatives to sorted out and work
[1:56:54] together and I think this year more than
[1:56:56] any other year prior Partnerships are
[1:56:59] key getting information out is key and
[1:57:02] so we have as president of ight County
[1:57:05] and when I heard that there was some
[1:57:07] discussion for Norco I thought it
[1:57:09] prudent to come and show my support and
[1:57:12] re reiterate how important it is to for
[1:57:15] our cities for funding success for um
[1:57:19] getting information out and and
[1:57:21] encouraging all members of of the city
[1:57:24] not just councils and thank you mayor
[1:57:26] bash for for letting me talk here in
[1:57:28] Council and City staff and Community I
[1:57:31] appreciate this but um funding funding
[1:57:34] success and education and and awareness
[1:57:38] is key and so I think what we've done in
[1:57:40] Riverside county is we have this year re
[1:57:43] reached out to San Bernardino Division
[1:57:46] and Mountain cities division we're
[1:57:47] looking at Imperial County LA and Orange
[1:57:50] County we're all in the same boat we all
[1:57:52] have core issues we're all uniquely
[1:57:54] different but the key thing is sorting
[1:57:58] through the bad laws and the good laws
[1:58:00] and supporting each other in that
[1:58:01] respect and so I thought it prudent for
[1:58:03] me to come here tonight to tell you
[1:58:05] there is a value in Cal cities it's not
[1:58:08] a perfect system just like any
[1:58:09] everything else but um it's worked it's
[1:58:12] working well in Riverside County and I
[1:58:14] hope that you will continue to support
[1:58:17] Riverside County excuse me there are
[1:58:19] seven policy committees we encourage
[1:58:22] all cities to participate in those it
[1:58:25] gives you a just like a council has five
[1:58:27] or seven different perspectives and you
[1:58:29] make a decision as a whole the policy
[1:58:32] committees are designed for the same
[1:58:33] thing you give your input and then the
[1:58:36] the the board hopefully listens and and
[1:58:37] we move forward and we're successful and
[1:58:40] so I think we've done well this year the
[1:58:41] evil housing laws are just that um
[1:58:45] funding is is being challenged at the
[1:58:47] from the federal level all the way down
[1:58:48] to the city level and um Partnerships
[1:58:51] are are what working and getting
[1:58:53] information out so we have uh member
[1:58:55] meetings every other month we encourage
[1:58:58] council members to come we encourage
[1:58:59] encourage city managers we have
[1:59:01] trainings this is this the strength of
[1:59:03] Kel cities is the trainings new elected
[1:59:05] trainings Brown act ethics um those are
[1:59:09] key for successful for new for newly
[1:59:12] electeds I remember when I first um got
[1:59:14] on Council it was it there was a
[1:59:16] learning curve and and you don't really
[1:59:19] realize what the job is until you get in
[1:59:20] that seat so so I hope that you'll
[1:59:23] consider keeping uh strength in Cal
[1:59:26] cities by participating and joining us
[1:59:28] at our member cities I invite you invite
[1:59:30] you all to come if you haven't been um
[1:59:33] I'm I'm president this year of Riverside
[1:59:34] County so I'm very proud to do so um
[1:59:37] it's a passion for me to mainly get
[1:59:40] information out and get input from every
[1:59:42] city that's the only way we're going to
[1:59:44] succeed is to have our voice heard and
[1:59:46] so I'm here just just to say that please
[1:59:49] um keep our our our County Strong
[1:59:52] and um and be active I know Jesse has a
[1:59:55] few things to say as well but um that
[1:59:58] was the most important thing that I
[2:00:00] wanted to to share is how important it
[2:00:02] is for us to have our voice heard
[2:00:03] because we have a lot to say thank you
[2:00:06] thank
[2:00:07] you hi Jesse good evening uh mayor and
[2:00:12] council members uh thank you for your
[2:00:13] time staff thank you for your time uh I
[2:00:16] just want to give you guys a quick
[2:00:17] overview and I want to start um uh at
[2:00:20] this housing conversation with Adu since
[2:00:22] it was fresh um we hired a housing
[2:00:25] lobbyist shortly after I was hired there
[2:00:27] in November uh he joined our team in
[2:00:30] January and he hit the road running um
[2:00:33] we have been playing defense uh as you
[2:00:35] can imagine in Sacramento with some of
[2:00:37] these housing laws coming through but
[2:00:39] folks we have some real serious laws
[2:00:41] coming out um currently that we're
[2:00:44] opposing um ab1 1885 which uh enacts
[2:00:48] Builder remedy for cities who haven't uh
[2:00:50] had their housing element
[2:00:52] uh approved is a big one they're
[2:00:54] changing the housing element our housing
[2:00:56] lobbyists worked with the Senate to
[2:00:58] provide them with information on why hcd
[2:01:01] should be audited and that's happening I
[2:01:04] mean we're doing some really cool stuff
[2:01:06] uh at the state level uh in and really
[2:01:08] trying to protect that local zoning
[2:01:10] control so I just wanted to start off
[2:01:11] with that um I do want to give you a
[2:01:13] quick uh just overview of Kel City's uh
[2:01:16] as it is I'm going to break this down
[2:01:18] into three different areas education
[2:01:20] advocacy and then our political side um
[2:01:23] our advocacy uh we have a legislative
[2:01:25] director named Jason Ry and we have six
[2:01:27] lobbyists at the state level that are
[2:01:28] here to serve you um those areas include
[2:01:31] Housing Development Public Safety power
[2:01:34] energy and
[2:01:35] transportation environmental Tax and
[2:01:37] Revenue governance transparency and
[2:01:39] Labor Relations uh and this year at our
[2:01:42] legislative Summit our our uh lobbyist
[2:01:44] did a really good job of connecting our
[2:01:46] delegation to some of those members on
[2:01:48] key committees uh and so we had a really
[2:01:50] good conversation with those Folks up in
[2:01:52] Sacramento around some of our regional
[2:01:54] issues uh education just for next year
[2:01:56] already we have a total of eight events
[2:01:59] on the calendar uh Mayors and Council
[2:02:01] Academy a city manager conference a
[2:02:03] planning Commissioners conference Public
[2:02:05] Works officers Institute uh city leaders
[2:02:08] Summit which is our advocacy day in
[2:02:10] Sacramento uh our city attorneys
[2:02:12] conference and our annual conference
[2:02:14] those conferences are outside of our
[2:02:16] division uh conferences we have a total
[2:02:19] of like M Linda mentioned six division
[2:02:22] meetings per year and we're adding two
[2:02:24] more next year one of them is going to
[2:02:26] be a workshop for planning Commissioners
[2:02:27] to better understand the laws and better
[2:02:30] understand their responsibilities as
[2:02:31] count as as planning Commissioners uh a
[2:02:34] lot of folks uh in different areas of
[2:02:36] the state their planning Commissioners
[2:02:37] are not dealing with the types of
[2:02:39] projects that we're dealing with here in
[2:02:40] Riverside County and so that was super
[2:02:43] important to them and so I've added that
[2:02:45] I've gotten approval from Kel cities to
[2:02:47] do that within the division so we'll be
[2:02:48] doing that next year as well um the last
[2:02:51] last aspect that I wanted to discuss was
[2:02:53] the political arm of Kel cities as you
[2:02:55] all know we have a fundraiser every
[2:02:57] division has a fundraiser once a year
[2:02:58] for City pack this pack goes toward
[2:03:01] ballot measures that are directly
[2:03:03] affecting negatively affecting local
[2:03:05] control um this year we had a big win
[2:03:07] with the cbrt ballot measure the Supreme
[2:03:10] Court ruled it out uh but that would
[2:03:11] have uh really impacted cities
[2:03:13] negatively from a financial planning
[2:03:15] process as well as a collection of fees
[2:03:17] process Kel cities uh approached this in
[2:03:20] a three-way approach we did a legal
[2:03:22] Amicus brief where we fought it legally
[2:03:24] we did a legislative approach where we
[2:03:26] submitted ACA 13 and and put out a uh
[2:03:30] opposition ballot measure and then we
[2:03:32] ran a PR campaign where we submitted
[2:03:34] over 220 resolutions from cities across
[2:03:37] the state opposing this ballot measure
[2:03:39] um as you may have heard uh at our last
[2:03:41] meeting and I think mayor bash alluded
[2:03:43] to it we got an update from our DA's
[2:03:45] office as well as Sheriff bianco's
[2:03:47] office on uh prop 36 this is the
[2:03:50] District Attorney's ballot measure that
[2:03:52] is uh aiming to repeal some aspects of
[2:03:55] Prop 47 Kel City's board did vote to
[2:03:58] support that measure and so we we're
[2:04:00] going to be the face of that campaign
[2:04:01] here in Riverside County um Kel cities
[2:04:04] has again an aspect of of uh in kind
[2:04:07] donation through my time uh that I will
[2:04:10] put forth toward that that effort and so
[2:04:12] um those are three the three advocacy
[2:04:14] areas that we really approach um our our
[2:04:17] legislative and and uh I guess
[2:04:20] policymaking decisions from so I'd be
[2:04:23] happy to answer any questions in the
[2:04:24] report um but that's kind of a general
[2:04:26] update on on how Kel City operates and
[2:04:29] what we're doing here in Riverside
[2:04:30] County in addition to that I want to
[2:04:32] throw one last thing out there we we as
[2:04:34] as Linda mentioned we this is the first
[2:04:36] year we've actually partnered with
[2:04:38] sanino County and Mountain division um
[2:04:41] our strategy going in and this was uh a
[2:04:43] lot a lot to do with Linda's leadership
[2:04:45] here was to put all of these divisions
[2:04:48] not together as one division but to talk
[2:04:50] about similar issues warehousing
[2:04:52] warehousing sales tax being one of them
[2:04:55] um and what we've learned is that in the
[2:04:59] first meeting we had over 220 attendees
[2:05:01] housing homelessness warehousing these
[2:05:04] are all issues that impact us
[2:05:05] differently than other areas of the
[2:05:07] state and so being able to put the
[2:05:09] numbers together through Kel cities has
[2:05:11] been very important with that being said
[2:05:13] we also have an incoming president from
[2:05:15] rancha kukamonga um council member Lynn
[2:05:19] um gosh dang it I'm forgetting ly
[2:05:21] Kennedy thank you um she'll be our
[2:05:23] incoming president and so we'll have a
[2:05:25] regional president and I'm really hoping
[2:05:27] that uh between the collaboration of
[2:05:29] both of those divisions we really move
[2:05:31] some some good policy forward next year
[2:05:33] so thank you do anybody have any
[2:05:37] questions okay thank you sir yep um
[2:05:40] moving to public comments I have no
[2:05:42] public comments mayor bring back to
[2:05:44] councel
[2:05:52] well it would be my suggestion we stay
[2:05:53] with League of cities at least for the
[2:05:54] next year um one of the things I forgot
[2:05:56] to mention was the fact that for the
[2:05:58] first time we're linking with three
[2:06:00] other counties that has never happened
[2:06:01] before that's a huge positive step um
[2:06:05] and that's while acknowledging maybe the
[2:06:07] last year was not the strongest year
[2:06:08] that we've had because of the
[2:06:10] transition but I would also sort of want
[2:06:13] to wait on the contract cities simply
[2:06:15] because they're really just sort of
[2:06:18] establishing in um Riverside County
[2:06:22] um I don't think they have that many
[2:06:24] cities and I think they're also kind of
[2:06:27] reeling because the Three Counties
[2:06:29] coming together has never happened
[2:06:31] before so it would
[2:06:33] be my recommendation that we go ahead
[2:06:36] and we we stick it out for another year
[2:06:38] and just kind of see what happens
[2:06:39] because I really do see some positive
[2:06:41] things
[2:06:46] happening do we that's a motion oh go
[2:06:51] for my next
[2:06:52] yeah we're going to be discussing uh the
[2:06:54] Supreme Court decision on homelessness
[2:06:55] and homelessness encampments uh we're
[2:06:57] going to have a really good panel to
[2:06:59] discuss that so I encourage all of you
[2:07:00] to come out to that it'll be September
[2:07:02] 9th I'll be sending out the flyer early
[2:07:04] next week thank
[2:07:05] you anyway that's a motion to stay with
[2:07:08] the league of cities for the next year
[2:07:11] and uh kind of just keep an eye on the
[2:07:13] contract cities and see how they grow
[2:07:15] and and I'd like to see how this Tri
[2:07:17] County thing works by the way another
[2:07:19] piece of that is that we are position in
[2:07:22] ourselves in terms of the tech bridge
[2:07:24] and the reason I'm bringing up the tech
[2:07:26] bridge is because we are the center it's
[2:07:29] not something that can be taken from us
[2:07:31] by an education U Consortium although
[2:07:34] parts of it are a little bit but we are
[2:07:37] in the center of it and I I am hoping
[2:07:40] that we might be able to within the
[2:07:42] Norco Corona maybe the Eastville area we
[2:07:45] might be able to utilize League of
[2:07:47] cities to help us strengthen the tech
[2:07:49] Bridge nobody else has what we have have
[2:07:51] in our city so we're not just a one
[2:07:53] horse Town we're not just a sports
[2:07:55] Capital we could actually be a technical
[2:07:57] hub for the entire Riverside sanino
[2:08:00] County so it be nice to have help to do
[2:08:03] that thank
[2:08:08] okay please vote
[2:08:27] and motion passes unanimous thank you
[2:08:29] thank you
[2:08:31] guys uh moving back to does can we keep
[2:08:35] going do we need a break are we all
[2:08:37] right okay moving on to
[2:08:40] 6C um uh before you begin I'd like to
[2:08:43] recuse myself I have a conflict of
[2:08:44] interest do the due to the location of
[2:08:46] my personal
[2:08:48] property oh you going to miss all the
[2:08:50] fun
[2:09:07] so first have a staff report yes uh good
[2:09:10] evening Council this agenda item 6C is
[2:09:13] um a request for an extension of 12
[2:09:16] month extension of time to record uh the
[2:09:19] final map for uh tenative partial map 9
[2:09:22] excuse me
[2:09:24] 37939 with a new expiration dat of
[2:09:26] September 7th 2025 as the council may
[2:09:29] recall this um map was approved in
[2:09:33] conjunction with the mixed use
[2:09:34] development back in September 7th 2021
[2:09:37] the map was approved for two years and
[2:09:39] would expire unless it's extended uh
[2:09:43] last year uh which was the expiration
[2:09:45] date of September 7th 2023 uh last year
[2:09:48] the council granted um the first of six
[2:09:50] allowed uh map extensions uh with a new
[2:09:53] expiration date of September 7th
[2:09:56] 2024 the um request before you this
[2:09:58] evening is to extend um that date to uh
[2:10:02] 20 September 7th
[2:10:04] 2025 uh and staff is recommending
[2:10:07] approval uh the applicant is here and um
[2:10:11] we can answer any questions that the
[2:10:12] commission may have I also also point
[2:10:14] out that Erica Vega lus attorney is also
[2:10:16] here to um assist in answer any
[2:10:18] questions should they come up with that
[2:10:20] I will conclude and answer
[2:10:22] uh any questions thank you do we have
[2:10:23] any questions
[2:10:24] bwin
[2:10:30] Greg all right Robin I have none any
[2:10:33] public
[2:10:36] comments I have no public comment mayor
[2:10:39] closing public comments bringing you
[2:10:40] back
[2:10:41] for motion comments
[2:10:47] discussion seeing done I make a motion
[2:10:49] to approve
[2:10:58] please vote
[2:11:23] GRE your supposed to CH is
[2:11:33] it I'm pushing
[2:11:42] it I but maybe it's telling me
[2:11:46] different motion passes thank you
[2:11:52] so moving on to seven I think I covered
[2:11:54] them all right jumping back I got them
[2:11:55] all yep all right moving on to seven
[2:11:58] public hearings presentation for public
[2:12:00] hearing items staff report presentation
[2:12:02] Council questions of Staff uh open
[2:12:05] public hearing um public hearing is to
[2:12:08] open uh then we will close the public
[2:12:10] hearing I will state that it's going to
[2:12:12] close Council discussion and action so
[2:12:40] call upon director
[2:12:41] freed hi good evening mayor and council
[2:12:44] members uh we're here tonight to um
[2:12:48] recommend amendments to our purchasing
[2:12:49] ordinances in order to meet our
[2:12:51] regulatory
[2:12:53] requirements uh related to our recycling
[2:12:56] purchasing and federal requirements
[2:12:58] through um the office of uh management
[2:13:01] and budget uh the state requirements
[2:13:04] basically uh requires us to uh procure
[2:13:08] recycled product and is setting
[2:13:10] standards and uh specifications on on um
[2:13:15] our paper products and as well as some
[2:13:16] organic uh products and the Office of
[2:13:19] Management and budget uh is announcing
[2:13:22] um changes to the uniform grants
[2:13:25] guidance and with that um we also uh
[2:13:29] will be uh notifying staff of those
[2:13:33] requirements uh once this uh passes um
[2:13:37] our our uh policy or sorry excuse me our
[2:13:43] um our city ordinance currently doesn't
[2:13:46] require changes for the federal
[2:13:47] requirements because we uh have a line
[2:13:50] just saying that we're going to comply
[2:13:52] with those requirements but the Recycled
[2:13:55] product we don't have that specific
[2:13:56] language in there so we are recommended
[2:13:58] to add that section for the Recycled
[2:14:01] purchasing and with that if you have any
[2:14:05] questions Council I have any questions
[2:14:07] for
[2:14:09] LTE
[2:14:11] Robin LTE what state agency enforces
[2:14:15] this policy uh this is coming from
[2:14:18] California um State be and it's uh we
[2:14:21] we're participating with the Cal recycle
[2:14:23] Grant and that's part of the requirement
[2:14:25] through that Grant um requesting the
[2:14:28] requirements with that and our public
[2:14:31] works department is the one
[2:14:32] administering that Grant and then how or
[2:14:36] when are audits for compliance
[2:14:39] done uh since Public Works would be
[2:14:42] required to um report on some of the
[2:14:45] numbers on this so that I don't have the
[2:14:47] specifics but we could uh look into that
[2:14:50] to to see when those requirements will
[2:14:52] be so essentially since we've applied
[2:14:54] for the grant we have to meet the
[2:14:55] requirements and then we
[2:14:57] self-report I I I don't know the the
[2:15:01] details of the grant itself but I could
[2:15:03] look into that okay thank you
[2:15:08] Catherine
[2:15:13] Greg you're not going to be forced to
[2:15:15] use single ply are you um it says 45% uh
[2:15:20] recycled climb for toilet paper
[2:15:26] okay I had to
[2:15:30] S
[2:15:34] bwin right
[2:15:37] um public hearing is now
[2:15:40] open I have no public comments
[2:15:43] mayor public hearing is now
[2:15:46] closed was that good Sophia I do it
[2:15:49] right thank you
[2:15:52] all right bringing back to council for
[2:15:54] discussion
[2:15:59] action second
[2:16:01] retitle yep please ordinance number 1123
[2:16:04] an ordinance of the city council of the
[2:16:06] city of Norco amending chapter 3.24
[2:16:09] purchasing system of the norcan
[2:16:11] municipal code code Amendment 202
[2:16:16] 24-9 please vote
[2:16:30] motion passes unanimous thank
[2:16:32] you all right moving on to city council
[2:16:35] and staff Communications anything from
[2:16:37] City
[2:16:41] staff uh City attorney no thank you Mr
[2:16:44] Mayor not a thing city
[2:16:46] manager
[2:16:48] Berwin Greg yes
[2:16:53] the public comments that were made today
[2:16:55] by the the two residents regarding their
[2:16:58] electrical
[2:17:00] services and
[2:17:02] their dilemma that they're in with with
[2:17:05] the construction
[2:17:09] um I know Alma
[2:17:12] that you're you're aware of that
[2:17:14] situation obviously but I like to see
[2:17:17] Council be given a a a a report
[2:17:22] of of what what the situation
[2:17:28] is and maybe a
[2:17:38] timeline thank you it's a good one I
[2:17:41] like that
[2:17:43] Katherine just want to thank City staff
[2:17:45] for all of their work and the volunteers
[2:17:47] at day of the cowboy and also at
[2:17:48] National Night Out so thank you
[2:17:52] Robin would just like to wish the Little
[2:17:55] League team from East Bale best of luck
[2:17:58] tomorrow in their game so here's my
[2:18:01] little plug and a little props to
[2:18:03] Eastvale for their little league team so
[2:18:06] best wishes to them tomorrow in their
[2:18:07] game so awesome um I just have two
[2:18:11] things one um I'd like to agendize a
[2:18:14] discussion about the national register
[2:18:16] it's very possible um I don't know
[2:18:18] what's going to happen but the lmcf has
[2:18:20] offered to
[2:18:21] join us in that effort and if we could I
[2:18:23] have to bring it before
[2:18:24] Council um if we could uh agendize that
[2:18:28] at a future
[2:18:32] meeting thank
[2:18:38] you please vote
[2:18:55] yeah there it comes motion passes
[2:18:58] unanimous and then finally I know this
[2:18:59] is a a much much bigger lift but I would
[2:19:02] like to
[2:19:04] um I would like to agendize a discussion
[2:19:09] regarding we are in a very unique
[2:19:11] position as a city of norin that we have
[2:19:13] our own Waterworks and one of the things
[2:19:14] that is coming is a need for recycled
[2:19:18] water and I know it's very expensive and
[2:19:20] know we can't do it overnight but what I
[2:19:22] would like to do is at least begin the
[2:19:24] groundwork and have discussions on how
[2:19:27] to begin to expand recycled water not
[2:19:30] only to our Parks but into our cities I
[2:19:32] know it's a huge lift but I think that
[2:19:35] given the fact that the state refuses to
[2:19:40] create storage I think that we need to
[2:19:42] begin to include that the other thing
[2:19:45] I'd also like to include I really liked
[2:19:47] uh Greg's idea in terms of the putting
[2:19:49] out the fires where the number one fire
[2:19:51] zone in the entire United States so I'd
[2:19:54] like to discuss what's that water
[2:19:56] storage system cost
[2:19:59] calledd helah hydrant or hel pod I'd
[2:20:02] like to discuss putting a couple of
[2:20:04] those in if it's possible I have no idea
[2:20:06] but then the other thing is I'd like to
[2:20:08] have a discussion on recycled water and
[2:20:10] utilizing it because we're about ready
[2:20:12] to get a whole bunch of recycled water
[2:20:14] from the in fact we're already getting
[2:20:15] it but I think that uh I'm not talking
[2:20:18] this isn't tomorrow this isn't next week
[2:20:20] but if we have a plan for the next 25
[2:20:22] years as we're putting in
[2:20:24] infrastructure uh we're doing a lot of
[2:20:26] Street work there's no re well maybe
[2:20:28] there is a reason but at least we look
[2:20:30] at as we break open streets we begin to
[2:20:33] put in Rec recycled water lines when we
[2:20:35] can so I'd like to agendize that to at
[2:20:38] least have a
[2:20:39] discussion can we have a workshop on
[2:20:41] that would you is
[2:20:43] that whatever I mean I'm I'm open to
[2:20:46] that so to have a workshop on that to
[2:20:48] talk about water and the other thing too
[2:20:52] is AG meters I mean all these things are
[2:20:53] trying to do with a farm to Fork farming
[2:20:56] I think I think a workshop would be
[2:21:01] great mayor I think we need Clarity on
[2:21:04] the motion again we need a Clarity on
[2:21:06] the motion okay um so I make a motion
[2:21:10] that we have a workshop on recycled
[2:21:13] water and beginning to do the
[2:21:15] infrastructure for that throughout the
[2:21:16] city of Norco and at the same time I'd
[2:21:19] like to talk about the um the water
[2:21:21] storage system in the case of fires um
[2:21:25] like it or not I I have no trust in
[2:21:27] Edison in terms of what they want to run
[2:21:29] down our throats and in fact one of the
[2:21:31] things that makes me frustrated about
[2:21:33] the league of cities just so we're clear
[2:21:35] is that that's one of the areas we don't
[2:21:36] stick together so we're going to have to
[2:21:38] protect ourselves in the event of a fire
[2:21:40] I think I think Greg's Greg's idea is an
[2:21:43] excellent one so we talk about that and
[2:21:45] we talk about recycled water okay and
[2:21:48] with the use for a because I've had
[2:21:49] questions about that as well yep so
[2:21:51] those would be the three topic using the
[2:21:53] Recycled water for agricultural uses
[2:21:55] within the city and how we could make
[2:21:57] that work before the infrastructure is
[2:21:59] put in place so a water Workshop that
[2:22:01] covering those topics yes okay
[2:22:11] great please vote
[2:22:22] a motion carries thank you thank you and
[2:22:25] with that we are adjourned