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CHAIRMAN Long. PRESIDENT.
Thank you. We have 3 members
present one excused by chair
at this time. Do you have any
announcements? Yes, I do.
First of all, we are going
since we have a packed agenda
today. Committee. I just ask
that everyone keep their
comments succinct and they
should be pointed in an
important and then I'm also
going to limit public comment
to one minute. We do have a
packed agenda and I want to
make sure we get through all
the items. The other thing I
just wanted to mention is
announcement is we do have a
new police chief, of course, a
permanent police chief. So
congratulations to chief beer.
And I also want to acknowledge
that there was an
officer-involved shooting
yesterday on International
Boulevard in the afternoon.
And so there's an ongoing
investigation. And so I'm not
able to provide additional
comment, but that is
incredibly important thing to
knowledge. And then yes, final
piece is we will also be
moving the item 8. This is the
opd surveillance Technology.
2024 annual report. 2 item 3.
It since I know that many of
the public commenters have
come here for that item. Okay.
Noting the change story noting
the change to the order of the
agenda to hear item number 8
after taking items, one in 2
living on to item one approval
of the draft minutes from the
committee meeting of JUNE 23rd
2000. 26, there are no
speakers on this item. So we
just need a motion. I'll move
the meeting minutes. Thank
you. That's a motion made by
council member Brown second by
councilmember. He son to
accept the committee meeting
minutes of JUNE 23rd 2026 on
Real Councilmembers. Brown. I
excused Houston. I chair
along. I thank you. Item one
passes with 3. I has won
excused by to accept the
minutes. The draft minutes
from JUNE 23rd 2026. Read e an
item to determination of
schedule standing committee
items and we do have 2
speakers for this item. Okay.
We'll go to public comment.
Calling in the name that
signed up to speak on item to
Jesse Rose more and Blair be.
Hi. How are you? Just the
first item on this. Penny? No
dates. A specific list is to
adopt a resolution directing
the city administrator
implement approved processes
for civilian icing, certain
sworn positions from opd to
improve public safety services
for communities and create
millions in cost savings by
reducing over time. Hours.
This has been the longest one
on this side pending noted
specifically as it's been
there on over. It's been there
over a We demand that you
schedule is now I'm having
this be the longest item on
yet to be scheduled shows that
Oakland doesn't have a budget
problem. It has a leadership
problem. This goes beyond
malfeasance We need to save
money. We have a city council
that is defunding odot
defining this cpra and, you
know, just doing abjectly
corrupt things as pointed out
by several city employees. 555
Aquinas. The yacht. Thank you
for your comments which into
Zoom user Blair. You can
unmute yourself and begin your
comment. Important public
safety meeting tonight. Thank
you. I with upcoming agenda is
I I can item we're going to be
wanting to Surveillance
technology. Technology. What
are our choices besides
sparked cover those
conversations start to become
a little bit more public and
regular it's important that
we're doing with the subject.
Really have a chance Europe.
We're like practices
corporations and practices
that work more towards
basically open democracy,
clear accountability. Good
luck. How we do that. We have
to start making know that that
that more public and regular
at that point, I think what we
start now by this time next
year. You know, the JANUARY.
Walker is with have a lp, our
vendor next fall. Thank you
for your comments. Sure. That
includes all speakers on this
item. Great any anything from
my colleagues. Administration.
Great. Take a motion. Perfect.
All motion. To move the
penniless. Second, Thank you.
We have a motion made by
Councilmember bound second MAY
councilmember Houston to
accept the determination of
standing committee items as is
on row councilmembers bound.
Excused Houston, I and chair
long. I thank you. Item 2
passes with 3 eyes when
excused by to accept the
determination of schedules and
committee items as is. Reading
in item 8 noting that there
wasn't change to the order of
the agenda. Adopt a resolution
accepting the 2025 annual
reports for the following city
of Oakland Police Department's
surveillance technologies.
Automated license plate
readers be crime lab
biometrics, dna analysis,
technology. See a forward
looking infrared. At Belle ir
livestream transmitter e
unmanned aerial systems
forensic legit coupling,
crime, chase assistance, Jea
pen Register and h celebrate
and to making a dent
determination regarding
whether the city should
continue continue to use each
of these technologies. And
there are 16 speakers that
signed up to speak on this
item. Ok, great. I will turn
it over to Dc does feel as if
I pronounced that correctly
have ok? All right. And then
if I know that you are
requesting a modification to
this item, if you want to
state that up front,
absolutely. So again, acting
deputy chief doesn't get from
Oakland Police Department. Pd
is requesting that Alpr
automated license plate reader
for 2025 annual report be
removed from the agenda.
That's apology changes
recommended in the report.
Accompanying revised
department. Jenna order. I-12
Alp our policy. All right. Not
contained within the
resolution related to this
item. The concern around the
resolution was identified by
opd and then brought to the
attention of the city
attorney's office for
clarification. Opd is
requesting to reschedule the
specific item after the
legislative recess to allow
for the presentation of the
annual report in conjunction
with the amended policy. This
will allow for a more
comprehensive discussion
around potential policy
changes. The reflect the
ongoing analysis, the lpr
program. The movement of this
item will not impact the
presentation of the annual
report within the designated
period. It will also not
impact impact the department
operationally. Thank you.
Since I had some back and
forth discussions with opd
colleagues, does that make
sense to the alpr section is
being This is item. Listed 8
the agenda, some some item a.
Please go ahead. As everyone
knows the Oakland Police
Department is short staffed,
but we do. We are actively
recruiting for additional
resources, but we rely heavily
on technology. And this
technology has assisted us
greatly solving crimes,
identifying potential people
of interest and also assist in
our community and the victims
of crime. We have utilized are
unmanned aerial system which
are drones. Forensic logic,
cop link crime, tracer pen
registers so bright to assist
us greatly in our
investigations. I know
everybody has had a chance to
review these annual reports
and we can go and death in
each one. If you would like,
we can go through each one and
if their specific questions, I
can answer them to make it
easier because I do want to
answer question that you might
already have or I think does
that people's there we go.
That's a better pronounce I
think it would be good if you
could provide just a quick
overview of each of the
technologies for everybody in
this committee absolutely will
make that he again, we have a
amount of technology in our
department. One of the things
we have is our unmanned aerial
system better known as drones
that have says it greatly and
our department, these drones
are program began in 2020 2
and we have deployed in 2025.
131 incident spread we
present. I'm sorry. It says
130 times that it's actually
131 and I clarified that with
the prize. The Privacy
Advisory Commission already,
but the drones have assisted
us greatly in being able to
provide real-time
intelligence. Give us unknown
unknown, have information
where we can't see and also be
deployed and be able to give
better response time. So if
there's an incidents where a
suspect flees from a singles
into a yard, we can deploy
drone. Give us some real time
intelligence just so we don't
send officers in there. So it
mitigates uses of force. Is
this real time intelligence
and also assist us in being
able to get that person safely
out and for officers to safely
take that person into custody.
I provided several incidents
in where they have assisted
us. I through 10 different
types of incidents that we've
had. But as you can see on
pages, 8. 9 and these were
incidents that were. Very
dangerous are barricaded
suspects. There are specific
incidents where people are
armed with firearms and all of
these incidents resulted in
the safe apprehension of armed
suspects and also the
mitigation of uses of force.
We do have our flare, which is
our forward looking infrared.
We do have somebody here from
artist, which is our air
support unit. This technology
was not used in the past year.
And I believe it's also
outdated. So there's not much
to report on that.
Unfortunately.
The next one is our live
stream transmitter feet where
we utilize that for protests.
We did not play that again in
2025, as you can see in the
annual report. The next thing
is our mobile forensic
extraction device basically,
this mobile forensic
extraction device. It's
basically told, used to
extract data from seized
mobile phones and tablets. So
it performs a one-time that
extraction doesn't conduct
live surveillance. You can see
that we extract its 730
devices. 5 are related to
internal administrative opd
searches and 733 were related
to criminal investigations. I
know one of things that has
been brought to our attention
is making sure that we look at
outside potential different
vendors. I can tell you that
we have been testing 2
different than vendors. I'm
not gonna specifically
mentioned those names of those
vendors, but one of the
vendors has had a 3% success
rate. The other one has had a
62% success rate. While our
current so bright has had a
95% success rate. And again,
these are a device that we
utilize in assisting us in
violent crimes. So if there is
a homicide, a robbery, a home
invasion robbery, a sexual
assault, somebody who is being
place than victimized on our
streets for prostitution
activity. And we're looking
for camps. These device that
we utilize to assist in our
investigations. And they've
been extremely helpful. The
other system we have is a pen
register system. And that's
basically it real-time
surveillance tool that reports
meta information about ongoing
and incoming phone
communications such as
outnumbers time stance and
called frequency. It doesn't
capture the content of
communication, which is really
important for me understand.
We currently utilize that
gladiator pin register system
to receive in analyze this
data at we utilize that that
at 86 times last year. 47
separate investigations and we
have team search warrants for
all for 80 of 86 installations
and 6 of those installations
were conducted certain
circumstances. And the
majority work, violent crime,
6 of the uses occurred in 2
incidents. One was where a
suspect ambushed inside and
shot at uniform. Officers and
the other one with a threat of
a potential school shooting.
And then lastly is crime.
Tracer formally known as cop
logic, basically just to make
it easier to kind of look at
Google platform that of a
system where it's just us is
somewhat of a one-stop shop
that assist us and being able
to research and look for a
cross law enforcement records
for calls for service field
interviews, arrest and booking
records in citations and
police reports it does not
contain any automated license
plate reader system and has
discussed and was discussed at
the Privacy Privacy Advisory
Commission. And I believe also
passed a public safety and
city council is we are moving
forward towards peregrine a
different database system
which is similar stills,
similar to a Google platform.
But basically it is cities
across the Bay Area have now
moved away from prying tracer
and have gone to peregrine.
Additionally, there's a better
auditing system on peregrine
and we can also limit access
and we can limit who sees this
information in which shared
with whereas cranked racing
was kind of free for all
anybody could have access to
it. Basically, those are are
surveillance annual reports.
Again, whether we should
continue the use of such
technology. Oakland Police
Department strongly urges you
to obviously vote yes in a
great This technology does
assist us and assisting the
victims of violent crimes but
also helping to identify
suspects committed these
crimes. Thank you so much.
Colleagues. And then I do want
to turn it over public comment
since we have folks here,
Councilmember Houston. Chair
you, sir. And it's amazing
when you you spoke on the pen
register, you sit. Help stop a
school shooting. And shooting
an officer. To get back to
that are going to take your
time time because I got a
couple just come That's
amazing. School shooting. Wow.
Yes. Over the school shooting,
we actually have a listed in
sitting where the where we use
that to facilitate identify
the location of the
individual, making the threat
for school shootings. So you
can obviously just considering
the fact of how dangerous and
just nationwide trying to
prevent such incidents from
occurring, how this can assist
Greatly threats become real.
And what about the shooting of
at the officer? This one? We
very we had some limited
information and it's we're not
talking too much about it, we
did apply it. And it did
assistance in the
investigation. Okay, lasting.
But so bright. You had to
vendors. I know you said you
could mention their names was
the percentage, the 2
percentages and it was a cell
by percentage. Absolutely. So
celebrate has shown us to have
95% success rate in
downloading information from
cell phones. Well, the other 2
vendors, one has 3% and one
has had 62% success rate.
We're not stopping. There are
still looking at other
vendors. Understand that
question to the chair. And you
said that the drones should
131 times it was using 2025.
Yes. That's where he said,
yeah, we had 131 times. I had
listed one 30 as my mistake on
there prior to that in 2024.
We had one. 26. And prior to
that, we had 220 and I like to
bring that to attention
because when it things we
discovered, obviously was 2023
with our first full usage of
utilizing drones. But you can
see that it's gone down. So it
has to be approved by a
commander on scene. So just
because incident MAY warrant a
drone, each commander will
identify the incident and
determine whether or not a
drone is still needed to just
because we have this
technology doesn't mean that
we deployed every single time.
We look at a case by case
thank you because I talked to
the county need to is working
perfectly, but the sheriff's
department, thank you. Council
member Brown. Excellent. Thank
you so much for the report and
the I had a couple questions
about the drone usage this
year. What progress the
department is making on like
the training like the drone
teams because I guess I'm
curious if that actually is
contributing to like the the
lack of usage. So currently
right now, I believe the top
of my head, we have 20 faa
107, certified pilots a We
also have them. So every these
are ancillary positions. So
it's not full time positions.
So a lot of these officers are
working different assignments.
Whether you're patrol
investigations working in
cease-fire, working in special
resources section for
obviously assignments. So
whenever they're very for a
call for service, if someone
is not there, they're trying
to respond to that location.
The other thing we have is
that our drones are depleting
in a sense is the same drones
that we've had since 2022,
these drones were donated to
us, but love the community So
we had to separate donations
totaling $100,000. And these
are the Saint John's we've had
since 2022. So are also being
cautious, too. And when we and
how many times we use it, just
like anything else. It is a
car in a break. So fortunately
for my for for me, I have some
intelligent people our teams
are able to also become
mechanics and try to fix the
drones themselves as little
parts break. So it is a
depleting resources far as
mechanical and also
financially. So we are looking
at other ways to purchase new
drones which are working on
right now. But that's mainly
the biggest issue right now.
Punches. Thank you so much for
that and what is the current
life of You know, it depends
on the battery lights and
we've had to purchase
additional batteries and the
drones we have are from 2022.
So that but the the problem
we're seeing right now is
those purchasing. Those
batteries are extremely
outdated and they're not
lasting as long as they
normally do. So the charges
are holding as long as they
are. So they're constantly
having to purchase new new a
new batteries if that makes
sense. Yeah, absolutely. And
then my next question had a
little bit you with the data
around like the celebrate
usage. And I just wanted to
confirm that in order to use
the celebrate technology, it
actually requires a a warrant.
Is that correct? That's
correct. It does require a
search warrant yet. Okay.
Thank you. Thank you.
Councilmember Before we turn
it over to public comment,
just to confirm is this a
comprehensive list of all
those surveillance technology
like ai notice that shot
spotter is not included in
this set of reports. Why? Why
is that? I believe that those
at different time we did. We
haven't presented Shotspotter.
Okay. So we'll get it to the
next set of reports. Okay.
Great. Okay. Turn it over to
public comment. Calling in the
names that signed up to speak
on item number 8 in no
particular order. You can come
up to the podium state. Your
name before making your
comment or if you're on zoom,
please raise your hands to be
easily identified. Deed on.
Jesse Rose more. Daniel
Hochman, Kendra Ferguson.
Kerry, both a subtle of Allah.
Pena is Adam will. Zarina Diaz
Matalin. Stacey Elizabeth.
Cochran. Noelle Flores, Blair
Beekman Owen. Angela Maddox
and I have one filled out
under tech workers. Coalition.
And if you if you are sitting
time or have someone seating
time tu, they must be present
or on zoom to acknowledge that
they are ceding their to you.
Here's the Don. Thank you very
much. All of these proposals
and all of the research done
on these surveillance systems
is 8 gross misuse of funds for
the people of Oakland. It's a
dangerous actually escalation
of surveillance on the people
of Oakland. We do not need to
encourage a surveillance
state. These drones and
cameras only act as a Band-Aid
solution to sources of crime.
My thoughts research and by
your admission, the so-called
benefited between 10 and 20%
for usage in completed cases.
This statistic does not
indicate that these cases
would have gone unsolved
without flock intervention for
such a widespread
implementation. The residents
deserve more than one in
moment of these devices and
result crime cases mind you.
That's not crime prevention.
You did mention crime
prevention, but only for
specific instances merely
crime resolution for most
cases, thoughtful, short at
every metric by their own
numbers for comparison amount
of time. The we know what
works. It is giving money to
health care and housing for
the citizens vote. Next
speakers you guys can come up
to the podium. It's on Senate
for number 3. Number 8,
because it coming up around
what's Riley. Going to see To
Daniel. Okay. Just noting that
you will no longer be able to
speak on item 3. And Daniel,
give me one moment to just
your time. Yeah. Go for. You
can begin. All My name is
Daniel Hoffman, a minister
resident and I work over at
Livermore, but the key plants
for working their weapons so I
first and foremost think that
this item should on a ballot.
If you look at police about
was measured measure Both of
those combined are not heavily
weighted as what we're talking
about. Now. But to talk about
starting officer owns the U.S.
Is to my knowledge that has
its indoor use for hostile
situations. Mississauga. I
need to see we plot pause the
clock. Mississauga. This is
your first warning you will be
3 warnings or you will be
removed. We need to respect
the first warning went
Councilmember you know, that
is your second morning
Mississauga. I think it's
important to note that, you
know, we want to make sure
that we give everyone's voice
is heard. And so everyone will
get the opportunity to speak
at the mic. And so, It wasn't
easy. 24 7, thank you.
Okay. Security. Can you please
speak with to thank you.
Should done about it. What do
she should An Can you can
continue with your comments.
Your time will continue. All
right. So knowledge the
barricade in hostage
situations. The overwatch for
active scenes and fires. That
makes sense. That is a
tactical advantage. But I
believe that we should
establish some kind of
limiting operating radius of
maybe like a quarter mile of
gives you enough go around the
block without it being this
scary step towards
surveillance state
infrastructure. One thing I do
want to applaud is the crime
of biometric security storing
all the data on the Internet
encrypting information and and
should be the standard for all
of this information, storage
and transfer. Not so much an
sd card on a drone or say
manually inputting the drone.
Log at the Microsoft teams
Excel sheet. I believe can we
pause again? Security? Can you
escort misses, sought out.
Please.
Susan.
You feel ready? Let's
do All right. So lastly, as
complementing the biometric
security and health care as
got moved, let's talk about
some statistics in their
report. It had 638 million
scanned, but only 1.1 million
hot list alerts which is you
divide the 1.1 bytes is
138 Million. That is a 0, 1,
7%, utilization rate. So let's
one scam per hot list alert.
If we multiply that by 20,
that's still only 30%
utilization, right? 97% waste.
1.2 million dollars for not
going 97% refund on and we're
building essentially pan off.
The comet only works 0.1% of
the time. This is a
unfortunately not even if it.
Thank you for comments. Your
time is up. Next that sun come
up to the podium. Police say
your name before beginning. I
think the fact that you chose
to rip move pr is at the last
minute from this agenda shows
exactly why we cannot trust
these kinds of technologies
and why there's a lack of
transparency when you brought
all these people here. Most of
them are there are here to
talk about the surveillance
state and flock cameras on
their corners. Let's see
Clinton already budgeted 2.2,
5 million to flock back in
DECEMBER. Imagine all the
social services that could
have been funded if those
funds went to somewhere else
rather than the surveillance
state policing at this level
of everyday life goes beyond
the Panopticon and transforms
lived actions into data by
which people are watched.
Their behaviors are predicted
and then demonized based on
their skin location and
socioeconomic status, making
every corner the wrong place
to be at the petrol. 24 7,
wrong time. Oakland already
has a habit of violating sb
34, and unlawfully sharing
surveillance data make every
flock camp. Good evening, Wolf
Oakland resident. Your duty
under Omc 9, 6, 4 is not just
accept paperwork is to approve
the usage against us. The cost
to civil liberties. The scale
of the scanning that's
happening 638 million license
plate scanned. A 15062 success
stories. That's 0, 0, 1%. The
99.9, 7, 7%, is all just non
constitutional obstruction
civil liberties in Oakland.
And also approving this
report. Oakland pd is not
following the rules. There are
6 currently approved usages
for flock. But apparently the
33 usages have been in their
system able to be selected for
the last year. I would really
love to have you ask about
that and are they using these
usage is already because you
have not voted on this year.
I'm Kendra Ferguson live in
Oakland and I'm opposed to the
opd expanding the use of
flock. I think that mass
surveillance in the country
that lawfully strips rights,
repressed people that lawfully
in concert incarcerate
families based off of their
deaths at the city and that
law femurs people in the
street will only bring harm to
the people. I think that fun
should be going toward
programs that uplift humanity,
not those that criminalize
manatee. I'm descendant of a
survivor of the Japanese
concentration camps from World
War. 2 and that measure was
taken. Then for safety and was
a safety measure and they
question 820,000 people for
the basis that thing Japanese
Americans yeah, the reality
all safety measures sometimes
do not do what they're meant
to do, right, actually meant
to just harm community. And so
I would hope that we are
choosing not harm, but using
humanity. I'm Zarina. I oppose
flocked to the council members
here. Do you believe the
citizens of Oakland have a
right to privacy from 24 7
warrantless surveillance? Why
is it that you continue to
support the vendor flock when
the public you serve? Opposes
this the way that you and opd
continued to sneak flock,
funding into agendas every
month reflects an allegiance
to the police above your
constituents. I've seen high
schoolers unions, immigration
advocacy groups, church groups
and Constance it. Constituents
all come here practically
every month to oppose flop.
The optics of you continuing
consider funding flop. The
optics is corruption and
collusion with opd. I Anthony
s district 5 residents. I
strongly oppose any contract
with flock safety flock
indiscriminately, collect
enormous volumes of video
footage in Illinois flock has
been caught breaking state
privacy law by sharing that
footage without a state law
enforcement officers,
including Customs and Border
Protection agents and a Texas
sheriff tracking a woman who
had an abortion. Fox Floppy
license plate readings have
led to false accusations and
fox careless security
practices increase the risk of
hackers stealing footage. When
it comes to public safety. In
Oakland, I trust the local
violence prevention programs,
not unaccountable. Tech
companies were increasingly
brutal and lawless federal
agencies. I urge you all not
to accept any expansion or
extension Oakland City
contracts with flock safety.
Not now. We're not ever.
Everyone, mark, I think I'm
the person who put down tech
workers coalition. So
apologies for for that to feel
that my name district, 3
resident and I just want to
say that. I guess I am a
little happy the flock thing
end up getting moved to last
month because I definitely did
look through those documents
and was kind of surprised by
how messy and how many data
and things were missing from
it. And I appreciate, you
know, I pd for pulling that
stuff off, but I can't give
them 24 hours for being the
people who presumably
submitted that stuff in the
first place. And so I would
really urge that especially if
this is the way that they're
going to like handle their own
data you know, we really
treat. We treat them with a
little bit of skepticism when
they say that they're going to
be good stewards for hours.
And I also think that.
Fundamentally, you know, it is
not surveillance or nothing.
You know, obviously, when you
you know, when you compare
lawlessness to surveillance,
surveillance wins. But I think
the ultimately there is
another option, which is
actually taking them. Hi, Jess
Heroes. More of the absurd
things that I've heard. Pro
flock hawks on the city
council saying from my
councilmember Wang, I've heard
you say that if ice deploys
here, we will just turn the
cameras off for So, you know,
these cameras collect commute
pattern data. So if you just
turn them off, it will be too
late. Ice will have that data.
They will use it to do
targeted abductions up our
neighbors when they go to
Dublin when they open Dublin
and when when they pursue that
to fill up that. That
facility. So what I would like
to know from you is what is
the plan when ice does hear
what they did in Minneapolis
to warn every person that
could be targeted by ice in
the Trump administration that
they need to immediately
change their commute pattern
data or have targeted
abductions at them. That is a
big task. He was going to do
Are you gonna do it? Which
department is going to it?
What is the plan? When are you
releasing the plan? Because
this leaves us in danger. My
name is an ion accidently
sound up for 3 instead of 8.
I'm not going to repeat the
statistics or the information
that is all really good. That
my companions are. They're not
my companions. But the people
who feel the same way as me,
which is that I strongly.
Oppose flock pose celebrate. I
oppose surveillance. I am
shocked that. What this like,
probably the 4th time I've
been in front of either this
committee or the full City
council talking about this and
what you listen to us. You
listen to the lies of opd and
you just go right ahead. So I
just don't know what to say
about it. I do want to say
that we are supposedly a
sanctuary city and should be
very clear to each one of you
at this point that. That ice
can get into all of these.
Certainly they can get into
flock. So. It just seems like
corruption to me. Madeline,
Stacey. Alp Ares provide
indiscriminate retrospectively
location, data. Any person, no
intermediary on demand. That
is a search without a warrant
with capability and track and
follow some of the sensitive
locations such as the
hospital. Immigration lawyer,
hospice churches, their home,
their doctor, Planned
Parenthood, their therapist,
their lover's home and it can
be used against lawful
protesters. Celebrate will be
used extrajudicial distance
Lee in the report attached the
agenda when the original
contract was discussed with
City Council. It states in
addition to warrants, it will
be used with documented
consent to search the mobile
device by the authorized
possessor of the device. And
we know health consent is
obtained. All this data is
sensitive and does not prevent
crime. Stop the surveillance
state cance the contracts now.
Hello. My name is Angela Max.
And I'm against is having any
contract with flock. I've
discovered a lot of really
scary things about this
company. They claim that they
don't know where their data is
being ai centers. It's Amazon
ai center. Amazon says they to
a globally depending on
whatever the local laws are.
So if it's legal here, they
can do it in a different
country or China and we don't
have any control a piece
looking at the data on that
end today. Don't come any
liability for the abuses in
the system or try to build any
way to stop the abuses. They
retroactively and stop and say
there was no data breach
because basically 7 months ago
that when even passports on
these cameras. And it did
partnership that they have
that give the day to ice. They
claim that they don't keep the
data and then the claim that
they have royalties the data
indefinitely, meaning they are
keeping it, they might not be
doing it now, but they might
sell it in the future that
might be bought by a different
company in the future. It
would explain why they're not
scared of liability because
they plan on selling for just
selling our data. Welcome
back, everyone. I am pleased
to see that after 100 plan
care to name great public. Can
you state your name for the
record? All Satan is Excuse
Hi. My name is Bree a woman. I
she her pronouns. I'm a
constituent for district 3 and
I am very pleased to what
happened earlier this member
of the public eye causing your
time. Mississauga. Do you give
her your time? Ma'am? You can
proceed East Army over then.
You can proceed. This is not
as giving your time. All
right. I'm gonna scratch out
that first part then because
if you can't various that it
to be here today because not
to not only repeat myself, but
to also hear my peers repeat
themselves as well. I play I
hope that you don't take my
sarcasm is disrespect to try
to put yourself in my shoes
right? That as a young black
woman, a 4th generation,
Oakland native, that you as my
representatives have decided
to continue the flock
expansion and explicitly
expressed the complete
disregard for my privacy that
despite our budget deficit and
utilize resources, a big and
historical lack of police
accountability still like to
dump money into the system of
enslavement and policing that
was created to ineffectively
harms every single day. The
privacy lawsuit against fox
should have been enough. The
open budget deficit should
have been an up and simply the
outrage of your constituents
should have been enough for
you to say no in NOVEMBER and
should be enough for you to
say no. Now I don't appreciate
the interest and I don't
appreciate you guys cut. Thank
you for your comments.
Switching to Zoom user Blair,
please unmute yourself and
begin your comment. We need to
move next speaker. Thank you
so much. You no pillow. Hello,
I'm I'm here. I'm here. Blair
Beekman hi player. You
continue. Thank you. Right.
Thank you. I had kind of be
moving and take get into a
good position to speak and
out. Biden public. Thank you
for this item. I'm trusting
your choice of police chief
I'm not trusting how you're
talking about block. When you
voted for blocking DECEMBER of
last year with the the
attention, the police that
they had to get the contract
signed immediately. Where is
the contract signing Park?
That's right. Now is the
actually been finding was at
least with not signed. That's
part of why you're not talking
to us right now. And I feel
you owe that Find or not. We
could have been working you
have a pay cut plan. Que lead
to future o'clock. Few years
time we could have been
working on a one-year time
praying. But you guys are
putting things off and you are
being incredibly on
accountable with some really
basic good ideas. Can we bring
together good ideas and you
guys be more accountable to
the process? I think waiting
to SEPTEMBER OCTOBER, you kind
Thank you for your comments.
Your time is up. Simon. Please
unmute yourself. Did you sign
up to speak on item number 8?
And if so, what name did you
sign up under? It should be
Simon, Renee, I'm sorry. I do
not have a speaker card filled
out for you. Calling him the
names that sign up the
remaining names. Elizabeth
Cochrane Noel for us and hot.
Okay at this time on didn't
have been called. Council
member Brown. Excellent. Thank
you so much. I just wanted to
ask clarifying question
because I know that when we
were discussing, I think all
of these items, you know, one
of the things that we request,
it was like an annual report
back. And I know that these
reports customarily go through
the Privacy Commission, right?
And so can I just get some
clarity as far as why we have
the side for us today. And I
feel like the title is a
misleading because it says to
item number 2, making a
determination, determination,
whether the city should
continue its use was the
report back from the Privacy
Commission around the annual
reports. As far as all
reports. When we presented to
the Privacy Advisory
Commission. I know all were
proven past forward as far as
delay in time. I'm not too
sure why. I know there is some
scheduling issues, but far as
any more specifics, I'm not
sure. Go ahead. Councilmember
Brown. Okay. And then my next
question since we pull item.
Since a portion of the eye of
the item was pulled item a and
this was supposed to be an up
day for the 2025. Reports and
we're going to get this now
even later where we've well
into the fall. What's what's
the status of the reports for,
I guess like 6 months into
2026 or we get a report on
this year, I think normally I
could be wrong. We normally
present to the Privacy
Advisory Commission. Lost my
voice newsy in APRIL. That's
if that's something we need to
re-evaluate. We can but
usually prevent we present in
APRIL. So this 2025 reported
was presented to the Privacy
Commission in APRIL of this
year. I have to double check
that. Do you have another
question? Are you want to? I'm
sorry about that I know I
offer this report. It says MAY
7, 2026. 0, can I have to
double check to see exactly
when it was scheduled and
present. Yeah, I'm I'm just
I'm just raising that because,
you know, by the time we get
this information and data, you
know, will be on standby,
really interested in what the
data is for the for the
current year. That's just my
feedback. Ok? Thank you.
Councilmember Brown
Councilmember Houston. To the
chair. Are you doing sir?
Still as representative of
District 7, I get emails calls
that support his flock. I
mean, I don't get that many
that bad. So. What to
Councilmember Brown of you
get, you know, e-mails about
it from my district. I'm not
saying I'm time my district
for meals to the schip. Bill
bill is to Lotus second
railroad tracks, they say they
want they want to protection.
So I'm here and tell
different. And so I want to
know the U.S. Is from district
7. District said district
saying from District 7, MISS
It. You how you feel about
tough love. Okay. So I'm
saying this that my history
fly. Right. So I want to move
this. I want to move Okay. And
and to be clear, we're going
to be. Councilmember Houston.
If you couldn't move the item
without exhibit a actually are
exhibit. Subsection a exhibit
e which is alpr item because
the request from opd is to
actually present this in the
fall time for later this year.
That's correct. It's exhibit e
it's the attachment exhibit e
but it is item. Like some item
a. That like to move it like
that? 10, not people want from
a move. Just so the public was
clear. This vote actually
removes the alpr item from
this from today's vote. We
will return to this in the
fall time. And I will to be
determined. I will second
that. Thank you. We have a
motion made by Councilmember
Houston second by Chair Wang
to approve as amended the
recommendations of staff and
support this item to the JULY
set 20 for City Council agenda
with the amendment to the
legislation removing regarding
the automated license plate
readers and exhibit e labeled
as Attachment e. On role. On
row councilmembers bout. I by
excuse Houston, I and chair
want chair eye. Thank you. And
to the makers of the motion,
is this on consent or not on
consent? Consent? Thank you
I'm Mike doesn't seem to be
working area. Threw the chair.
I just wanted to clarify that.
The title also changed to
remove the lpr information.
Thanks. So noted. Now going
back to the original order of
the agenda, reading in item
number 3. Adopt a resolution
authorizing the city
administrator or designee to
enter into an operation on it
area agreement with Alameda
County to participate and
intermediate level of the
State of Emergency Services
organization that will comply
with the state of California
Sanitize Emergency management
systems for the period of For
the period from edification to
DECEMBER 31st. 2000. 35 and we
have 3 speakers on this item.
Okay. Do we have a
representative from a lefty
here? Good afternoon. Good all
the pro. And this is the
emergency manager for the city
of Oakland from the fire
Department. Okay. It has
please ahead. The floor is
yours. The Oakland City
Council has adopted this
original 10 year, all
operational area agreement in
1990, hi. And then
subsequently on 1/11/2006, and
that one has expired on
DECEMBER 2025. Alameda County
has just approved their
agreement with Alameda County
agencies. Both government, non
government nonprofit. To
participate in this
organization. There's no cost
to the city of Oakland. It is
really for coordination of the
resources, information and
mutual aid during disasters
and emergencies. Great. I'm
not seeing any comments or
questions from my colleagues.
So let's first go to public
comment. Calling in the names
that signed up to speak on
item number 3, Jesse Rose
Morris, not all Linda Blair
Beekman.
Hi, sorry on that
last in that deliberation.
Just now I'm just here as more
on. Seems like you guys can
even get straight what you
snuck into the agenda and such
a long, lengthy pack it out.
Now one of our public speakers
had a print it out. Can see
how thick it was. And you gave
one minute per person for all
of that. Okay. So for this
item here. Page who says the
Alameda County sheriff will be
the operational area
coordinator and that we will
have to count on them in the
case of a disaster. And since
we care about flock, we care
about what's happening with
flock in Alameda County. And
we have seen the Alameda
County Sheriff lie point blank
to the public about what is
happening with flock and what
they've done around. There's
their public outreach on the
item. It isn't page 2 and
looking at page 2, it says
that that's going that's we're
going to be counting on for
these emergency services. They
in public outreach said that
nobody had any concerns about
flock when they ram this
through the Alameda County
Board of Supervisors and
several public commenters
called them out for line. So
one of the one of the big that
is a big challenge. Is when we
have evacuation procedures and
it involves all students. Usd
is not a neighborhood school
district. It is a choice
district. We have children
scattered throughout the city.
And that's going to be more
challenging the neighborhoods
when I lived in New Orleans
and we had an emergency
parents will call and he would
run to come pick up the kids.
Can't do that. 7 the larger
percent all children are
spread throughout the city.
What happens to those
children? When they separated
from their parents? And we
have to do something to
protect them house and get
them back home. This
challenging Skyline. 1400
students, no evacuation
process. In place except to
shelter in place on the
football field. In the case of
love. Thank you for comments.
Missile of Thank you, sir.
Switching to Zoom user Blair,
you use up and begin your
comment. I'm an agreement with
the first public comment a lot
of important items on the
previous agenda item. Really
needs like a minute 30, that
additional 30nd be a lot of
help. I hope you could learn
that sort like the ability and
Peter public meeting mid 30's
definitely need to win. The
item is brought to counsel.
Good luck in that effort to
consider that concept. We one
30 a bit more. Think not all
the time. Just a bit more. I
want to comment for this item
yeah, I you know, the work the
person are weighing doing the
international boulevard issues
around 12th Street. And so I
can office of Emergency
Services at the California
state level be of help. And I
suppose the story of item can
be helpful in in working with
Alameda County and such. It's
towards, you know, not law
enforcement. That's why part
of Office of Emergency
Services to address the
California Office of Emergency
Services. Good Luck and that
content. Thank you. Thank you
for your comments. Sure. That
includes all speakers on item
3. Thank you, Clark. Yes, so
thank you for bringing this
item before us. I do have just
a question around how often
the mutual aid comes to
Oakland versus when the city
of Oakland supporting our
neighboring jurisdictions.
There's a mutual aid agreement
fire and police. And this is
not part of that. This for
emergency services for
planning response and recovery
purposes. Only. This board.
They on a county into 2 was
created after the 1991 Oakland
And this is in the California
code. To ensure that we all
agencies in Alameda County,
both government, not a
government and non-profit and
special districts that we all
have a way to coordinate with
each other to create a mutual
trainings and exercises which
enhance our capacity to
respond. And according to
Sam's the standardized
emergency management System
and National Incident Command
system, the way people work.
The disaster is always local.
It starts in in the
jurisdictions in this case say
Oakland, then once we lost our
resources in Oakland in all or
some capacity, then it goes to
the operational area, which
for us is the county. And that
is what is stop is established
by the California code
following the 91 opened fire.
If the county is out of
resources can no longer
support us, then it goes to
the region and then the state
and then federal. So that's
the progression of response
being closely connected to the
Alameda County ensures that we
as all cities get support one
another if we are affected
than others and not them, the
resources can come from them
through the Alameda County
Coordination. So that's an
important part of this
partnership. Plus, training
and less exercise because no
one jurisdiction has the
capacity or the finances to
create enough trainings and
exercises to train city staff
to train our partners in
church community. Okay. Great.
So that's a helpful
clarification. So this is
really pertaining to natural
disaster. Planning it. It
sounds like not so much mutual
aid as it pertains to either
law enforcement Okay. That's
that's a separate issue
altogether. Different code.
Okay. So you know, this
pertains to preparedness
reminisce response, recovery
and mitigation. So we all work
together to ensure our
collective reading is not just
for natural disasters, manmade
as Cyber attack that we've
spent a couple of years We
were we had were heavily
relying on the county and also
I think jurisdictional
experience with similar tax to
ensure that we take the right
steps. And employee right
partnerships. Okay. Great one
final question. Then I'll turn
it over to Councilmember Brown
is just have you all been
looking into just the or
coordinating of like the text
alerts and just notifications
to residents in the case of a
serious incident. Absolutely.
In fact, we're getting ready
deplore a campaign for a
sailor which stands for
Alameda County alerting System
many of such tools are
available through the county
because again, the
municipalities don't have the
resources to buy platforms and
so forth and So we do have a
see a lurch in the city of
Oakland. We have 2 levels.
It's an opt in system. So
people have to sign We have
one that is specific to the
city of Oakland when we have
something that is important to
staff based on location or an
incident. And then we also
have a resident alert. And in
fact, those who were signed up
for a sailor on JULY 4 prior
to JULY 4th, prior to JULY,
3rd would have received 2
alerts indicating the street
closures for JULY 4th
celebrations any other
important information that
needed to be distributed show
our residents and our visitors
knew where when and how to get
around the city. So we do
deploy ac alert regularly,
both for internal staff for
things that matter to
particular department and to
our residents when it doesn't
have to be disaster. JULY 4th
with a celebration. That's
good to know. Thank you.
Councilmember Brown.
Excellent. Thank you so much
for the report. I'm very
familiar with the emergency
management kind of protocol
and system. I got to take a
handful, of course, is on
emergency management. And so I
know that is very complex. But
it also requires, as you
mention, you know, working
across all of our governmental
systems, right to ensure its
success. So my question is one
of can you just at a high
level, maybe share with me
given that we're going to
enter into a contract that
that is about, you know, a
years long, pretty lengthy. He
walked me through, like what
are some of the court nation
efforts that will that will
kind of take place to ensure
you know, just continued
coordination like either, you
know, 6 months check, ins are
like what? What is the how how
is the relationship like
genuinely maintained?
Absolutely. Is a question.
Thank you. So this this
agreement is between as the
city of Oakland and Alameda
County in every other
jurisdiction, governments
government, non-profit special
districts also entering into
this agreement on their
behalf. So So what happens is
we need quarterly and by we I
don't mean that certainly I
go. But somebody from it will
go to the quarterly meetings.
We also have a monthly Check
just with the government
entities. So that's
specialized for government. We
have joint training
opportunities several times a
year. A little bit hard to
quantify. Sometimes it's
months. And then sometimes
it's every other month. You
know, that sort of probably
have about dozen training
opportunities a year just our
counties. Alameda County's who
takes that on who runs the the
expense organization of it and
all of it for for us to take
advantage of it. We also
multiple exercises a years
some big, some small. What
also the county does for all
of our jurisdictions. They
organize planning one of the
blessings that we have so far
this year. What's what's in
response? And before anybody
says we are at risk for maybe
not a huge risk but risk. So
we city of Oakland
participated with the city of
county and the contractor that
they hired to create
oakland-alameda specific
tsunami plan. If that happens,
what do we do in the county?
Other county agencies were
involved but plans
additionally with just
planning how train elected
officials. On emergency
response. We haven't ruled it
out. The work has just been
completed. But at some point
you all of our elected elected
officials will get a very nice
booklet that spells out. And
this happens. This is what is
need that if that happens,
this is what is needed and
will conduct the training for
just the city of Oakland
elected officials. Those in
just a few examples of how
county supports the city of
Oakland in other
jurisdictions. Excellent.
Thank you so much. And I know
last year some of us myself
and some of the other offices
attended a training at o c
Around. You there's a handful
of things that we that we got
the opportunity to align. So
if my colleagues haven't had
the opportunity to do it was
very insightful. And the team
that we have working at the
dot, they are phenomenal.
Excellent. So thank you so
much for that report. I'm
happy to move the item, ok?
Great. I will second that I
just have one more comment to
make it. I was making the
connection what actually my
questions before around the
alert systems. I remember
reading about Maui and when
there was that wildfire and
the fact that the sirens did
not deploy and I think it
looks like in San Francisco.
Because there has not been the
funding. The siren system is
currently offline. I don't
know the status here in
Alameda County, but I do think
that is something for us to
ensure that we have that up
and running. Since we know
with climate change. A natural
disaster is inevitable as evil
as you yourself have stated
with the tsunami risk
wildfires, everything and so I
want to make sure that we have
that in place and that we're
we're ready is a county and
the city. Just need Sure.
Yeah. Sleuthing. So it the
counting this particular would
have anything to do with this.
The city of Oakland maintains
its own siren system. We test
sirens every month on the
first Wednesday at noon, I
would one sound for a minute
us out. If you hear the siren
on any other day of the week,
any other time. There are 3
types of Jones, but don't
expect everyone remember If
you hear something, then go to
the official news resource we
most of our sirens are fully
functional and operational. We
have a couple that are
currently maintenance status.
But this sirens scheme on
around the city such that even
if one is out, there are
others around the area about
what that would sound. So
nobody is without any sound.
And we do testing regularly
and we have 3 agency so to
speak that are responsible for
activation in case need that.
And that would be through the
fire dispatch. Police dispatch
or emergency management or the
radio group of Public works
great. So it sounds like
Francisco, our siren system is
in fact working. Correct. And
we do work with to shop for
public works. And with public
electricians and Eugenie and
so forth to ensure that all of
our signs or an operational
condition. But yes, it is
aging infrastructure. So every
now and then for one reason or
another wanted sirens will go
off line. But we are
maintaining them. We are
upgrading them by we I mean,
the city majority that there's
only 2 of them that are county
maintenance. Great. Thank you.
Let's move to the Thank you.
We have a motion made by
Councilmember bound second by
Chair Wang to approve the
recommendations of stop and
support this item to the JULY
20 per City Council agenda on
$0.10, honorable
councilmembers. And Cher. Wang
I thank you. Item passes with
3 eyes when excused by to port
this item to the JULY 21st
City Council agenda on consent
reading in item for adopt a
resolution accepting the
Department of Violence
Prevention's 2026 apricots
annual report and approving
ended policy has approved by
the Privacy Advisory
Commission on JUNE 4th, 2026
and there are 4 speakers that
signed up to speak on this
item. Go ahead and take away
the floor is yours. Thank you.
Good evening, Councilmembers.
Jenny Lind she deputy chief of
grants programs and evaluation
for the Department Violence
Prevention and Wait for most
lines. Great. So I am
presenting on our apricot
3.60, annual report and update
it. Use policy. High-level pre
cut 3.60 Is a cloud-based
system developed by on Terra
for use by social service
providers to track service
delivery and grant management
tasks. This is the system that
the Department Violence
Prevention uses for our own
internal direct service staff
and also for the agencies that
we fund to enter information
about service delivery. The
system was first approved by
the Privacy Advisory Committee
Shun and City Council JULY of
2022, it was then customized
and implemented by the dpp in
JANUARY of 2023. Replacing our
old System City's ban. And
since then, we've had annual
reports and use policies
approved by the Privacy
Advisory Commission. Every
JUNE since JUNE 2024. 2025 and
most recently 2026. The system
has multiple uses for direct
service staff both employed by
the dpp and by the agencies
that we fund the system can be
used to track enrollment
service, engagement milestones
and outcomes for individuals
who are engaged services and
then additionally for agencies
that deliver group level
services, it tracks
information such as
attendance, duration content
of group services. For
supervisory staff again within
the dp and our friend of
agencies. They can use the
system to review the services
that are being delivered by
the individuals. They
supervise to monitor service
delivery and track performance
metrics. Grant Management
staff both within the dp and
are funded agencies use the
system to track budgets been
down. So we have reports that
are automatically generated
every quarter to to show how
expenses are being spent
various categories. It's how
we track progress on contract
deliverables that we also have
a standard report for every
contract that's based on the
service deliverables in scopes
of work. And it shows exactly
where agencies are supposed to
be every quarter and then
where they actually are. And
then we use it to receive and
process quarterly invoices. So
every quarter agencies input
information about what they
did a quarter about their
expenses, we review all the
information. That's how we
process voices. A few select
program staff within the dp
Use the system to coordinate
services between agencies and
support Effective
implementations of example of
this is the violence
interruption services. We fund
for community-based
organizations to deliver
violence interruption in
services in Oakland. But the
deep he also has internal the
eyes to kind of quarterback
that work. And so the ability
for them to see updates that
are being entered by the
various agencies is very
helpful in coordinating the
response. And then lastly, due
to an evaluation staff use the
system to summarize service
delivery information for
reports to counsel to
commissions to funders to
monitor consent form
completion and eligibility
criteria. So we have standard
eligibility criteria for gun
violence services, for
instance, or one data
specialist make sure that that
those criteria being met and
then of their data entry
errors, there's regular checks
on that. For the annual year
of 2025, the system was used
by approximately 36 staff from
the dp and 170 Community-based
organizations. There were also
individual records entered for
about 2400 individuals.
Participants in services. In
terms of data sharing de
identified data for all
participants and then
personally identifiable
information, which means name
and date of birth for
individuals who provided their
affirmative consent shared
with the same party in 2
different occasions. One was
Urban Institute for their
evaluation of Measure z funded
services and one was Urban
Institute for their evaluation
of a state grant that we have.
We have had no complaints or
concerns raised about the
system regarding its
protection of civil rights are
civil liberties. And our data
analyst is in frequent
communication with grantees
about a number of things. And
when he receives feedback on
how ways to improve the system
are additional things that
they want. Clark did. We're
happy to make those changes or
develop reports that would be
helpful for them to monitor
service delivery. Service
delivery. Information in a pre
cut is limited to high-level
information. So it's number
and duration of contacts and
service outcomes personally,
information is only required
for adults who are receiving
services related to gun
violence. It is not required
for youth at all or for
individuals who are receiving
services related to
gender-based violence. This is
a high-level overview of the
reason the city breakdown of
individuals who are entered a
neighbor caught being served
by Dbpr gdp, funded
organization services. If you
take away the missing, these
percentages are actually
slightly higher. Still, the
majority of individuals being
served are African-American or
Latino that closely mirrors
the breakdown of recent city
for individuals impacted by
gun violence and domestic
violence and commercial sexual
exploitation in Oakland, which
is what we're charged to
reduce. We regularly review
There have been not been any
violations or potential
violations of use policy to
date that we're aware of. Also
been no data breaches are
unauthorized access. And we
have had no public records
request pertaining to the
system. The annual cost of the
system in upcoming fiscal year
is $125,000. Approximately
half of that will come from
our general purpose fund. And
then we try to write in a
portion of that into every
extra grant that we got about.
Half of that is funded by
external grants. In terms of
efficacy. Apricot 3.60,
invaluable in our work. In
many ways, it's allowed us to
ensure alignment with best
practices, specifically ready
relating to cease-fire
lifeline. So our Chief Holly
Joshi, our deputy Chief
Danielle Medina, who oversee
all of that word they receive
weekly performance reports
where they're able to see
exactly what all of the life
coaches and violence
Interrupters are doing to
implement the model. And sure,
but they're having the high
touch plants that are required
to achieve impact. It's also
how we as we discussed in
prior meetings, how we hold
CEOs accountable it, how we
track their performance
metrics to make sure that
their meeting, what we said
that they were going to do in
their scope support. It's how
we coordinate service tear. It
supports rather coordinating
service delivery within the
group strategy. As I
mentioned, specifically around
violence interruption. It
allows us to easily summarized
share data with it. Groups
like City Council Oversight
bodies, Public funders and
then, of course, it is the
source of data that we use for
impact evaluations. So for the
measure z funded evaluation
evidence to it, this is the
source of the data for any
future evaluations that are
funded measure. This is where
the data will come from. And
then lastly, we're proposing a
one amendment to the use
policy this year. The current
use policy states that.
Personally identify well
information again, name and
date of birth is not entered
for individuals receiving
services related to
gender-based violence. We
would like to just change that
language to say is not
required. We would like to
just as we do for youth, give
them the opportunity to opt
into sharing data because it's
so powerful and hopeful for
evaluation purposes. That was
one of the findings from
Measure z evaluators was that
they simply didn't have
enough. They didn't have data
at the individual level to be
able to do impact evaluation
for gender-based violence
services. So with this change,
we would simply be giving
people the opportunity to say
yes or now, of course, they
can always ristaino and still
services. There would be no
bearing on not. And that
concludes the presentation.
I'm happy to take questions.
Council member Brown. Not
necessarily question, but more
of a comment just in reading
and reviewing the report. He
seems very clear that program
and like the system is working
very well. And it also has a
clear nexis to win. You all
come back and share. Hey, how
are these community-based
organizations doing with the
program services? And it also
sounds like maybe we should
duplicated in other
departments, ku that utilize
it as well because it just
really seems like that it a
It's a great tool to really
collect the data and get the
clear feedback. But thank you
so much for that report.
Really appreciate it. And
through the chair to
councilmember and just to add,
it is a great tool. It's far
superior to the former tool
that we're using and allows us
to again, not only track that
he did that create all kinds
of customizable reports that
are really helpful for
implementation. One thing
that's very exciting is that
we were able to about a year
and a half ago. Pouch are
former technical assistance
provider from Terre and he's
now an employee of the
Department of Violence
Prevention. So we have. Lot of
this recipe to do really cool
things if for some reason,
another department adopt the
technology would be happy to
lend his expertise. That's
phenomenal. Thank all. Make a
motion to move the item well
as good. Well done. What a way
to fill are Councilmember
Houston. To chair what to wear
using prior to this the one
that you're using prior? How's
it being done before threw the
chair to councilmember
Houston. We're easing city
spam. It's still needs believe
by the Department of Human
Services. Was not. We were not
able to enter personally
identify or like individual
level data from the
community-based organizations
that we fund and then us
people to summarize bought
into deliverables and 2
reports that were able to
easily see. So the agencies
were instant some entering
already summarize data. So
that would be boxes that say
how many individuals that use
or rather than entries of
individuals served being
summarizing reports that we
can see. It gives us a little
bit more accountability. And
also support with service
coordination. And then before
I second the item, I just
have. Of wealth. One comment,
which is I do agree with my
colleague. It sounds like this
system has some use, say, for
example, human services that
we know has challenges around.
Reimbursements that does a
system actually support the
reimbursement of the providers
are. This is simply sort
tracking performance metrics.
We use it to prepare the
invoice that is submitted into
the ap portal. So the ap
portal is still the system
that is used to actually
process the invoice and issue
payment. But we use this to
prepare all of the
documentation that goes into
the ap portal, including the
itemized spend on of
expenditures and the summary
deliverables achieved. Okay.
Interesting. And then just
with regards to the amendment,
I'm sure that you thought of
this, but I just would like to
vet this is given, of course,
the data special data privacy
needs for like a domestic
violence victim or a
trafficking victim. What
privacy controls are privacy.
Protections are included in
the system to ensure that that
the data can be misused so.
The data are only access.
Every user of the system has
very specialized permissions.
So any staff member to its
community based organization,
for instance, can only access
data that they enter. Not that
anyone else. And jurors. And
that's the case for everyone.
The exception to that is the
data specialist who works for
the dp and myself have
slightly broader credentials.
But for the most part,
individuals to access the
system only have access to the
data that they enter. Somewhat
related is in terms of
providing consent for their
personally identifiable
information and to be They've
they provide that can send it
is not by any means required
as part of service delivery
and that complies with the
ball. But expectations, which
is that you give individuals
the ability to consent or not
and don't make service is
contingent on that. So those
protections are in place.
Okay. Great. Thank Calling in
the Navy decided to speak on
item number 4 in a particular
order. You can come up to the
podium state. Your name for
the record. Muzzy Indigo Jesse
Rose more outside Ala and
Blair Beekman. Hi, Jessi rose.
More on the vp provided a well
written report compared to
opd. He did not provide a well
written report. We got one
minute to speak on this item
where per item 8. We also got
one minute to speak on this
garbage. As I wrote a Brown
mentioned just that nonsense
that we had only one minute to
speak on this city council. 3
of the members of this body, 7
members of the city Council it
south. Look at opd, anything
it wants and its austerity and
means testing for everything
else. Wang as Councilmember
one, you're pertain to care
about data privacy when it
comes to take the vp. Why do
you issue that scene care
about privacy to flock, which
so many people came to speak
which is very clearly not
popular with your
constituents. And with
everybody in Oakland we have a
city council that serves
Piedmont landlords in the o p
o a we should be finding a
violence prevention and
safety. And you know, we need
a city council that doesn't do
austerity. So there's some
clarity. It needs to be
explain. The report says that
you have participant record.
It's. 2300. Program
enrollment. 2500. What's the
difference between the 2? When
you look, thank you for the
numbers of what you provided
services employment. 37.
Family and victim support 17.
And I'm not gonna be able to
go through all the numbers.
What I didn't see in the
report. And you got
distinguish between services
and referral. Referral means
you identify the Service mean
you actually got something in
terms of in need. But you
didn't identify anything that
accommodates trauma recovery.
Mental health care. Anger
management, drug treatment.
And those areas that need to
be addressed. When you're
talking about some of the
issues that thank you for your
comments, which into Zoom user
Blair. You can unmute yourself
and begin your comment. I
thank you big men. This is
another item that can serve a
cause, a person's wearing
council PRESIDENT Brings work
I mean, National Avenue.
Boulevard really well. It was
nice to hear. It was nice to
hear that this is really based
t v p Postal Service And not
so much law enforcement wasn't
too much mentioned. And that
was really helpful. It's up 8.
That's a resource play. You
know, the meetings we had on
the International Boulevard,
which is a few weeks ago The
people there, women there,
they need resources. That's
what was being fed by the
public. And it seems an item
that helps provide those
concepts, which is just dumb.
It's just the way to work or
system how we're going
understand this best. So. Is
nice to hear this item and
what its intentions can be.
Could look, we can live up to
his potential. Thank you.
Thank you for your comments
your name is called. Please
come up to the podium. Chair
at this time. All names have
been called. We can move to
the vote. Yes, yes, we have a
motion made by council member
Brown, seconded by chair. Want
to approve the recommendations
of stop and support this item
to the JULY 20 per City
Council agenda on consent on
rule councilmembers. Brown. I
buy I he and Cher Wang. I
thank you. Item 4 passes with
4. I support this item to the
JULY 20 for city Council.
Jenna, on consent reading in
item 5 adopt a resolution
authorizing the city
administrator to enter into
professional services
agreement. With the Bright
Research Group Inc for the
training and capacity-building
Services. But the Department
of Violence Prevention from
SEPTEMBER 1st 2026 through
DECEMBER 31st. 2028 por total
contract amount not to exceed
$513,000. And there are 3
speakers that signed up to
speak. Okay, great. I'll turn
the floor over to you. I am
know that we are about half an
hour left till we get to
08:00pm. So I would love to if
you can make it succinct.
Thank you. No problem. Good
evening. My name is Thomas and
the manager that reading euro
with Department violence
prevention. So I'm here today
to talk about adopting a
resolution award a contract of
$513,000 to bright research
groups. For training in the
past. The billions services
from SEPTEMBER first to
DECEMBER 31st. 2028. And
service Cp's mandate. As you
all know, our mandate is to
reduce gun violence, domestic
violence in commercial sexual
exploitation. And we do that
through Point Eric Service
staff within our community but
important meeting, community
services to deliver a violence
interruption services in
building the capacity of the
ecosystem of community
violence. Interventionists.
And 2024, the dp received 3.5
million dollars from Kaiser
part of the spending included
hired if a team manager myself
build maintain infrastructure
for chaining zvi workers. In
addition to that last year, dp
received investment from the
Greenlight Fund to develop and
launch Oakland Peace Academy.
This will be a fellowship for
community violence.
Interruption workers through a
partnership with everybody's
institute. The purpose of the
training bureau is essentially
to be a a for him to spend
professionalize and Clinton's
violent. The Raptors life
coaches a specialist, cetera.
And our vision is to do this
through leadership
development. The Oakland
Academy and through. Capacity
ability and that can be a
variety of things. Trainings
on harm reduction, self care,
dealing with compassion, Petit
supervision. Managing a budget
for organizational to just
capacity building for both
leaders within organizations
and within the ttp as well. As
for Derek Service, that. In
FEBRUARY, request for
qualifications win. Now for a
contractor to provide services
to support the change the
past, the building efforts of
the training hero. There were
5 submissions of 2 were passed
through disease procurement
process and of the 2 that pass
only one vendor, right.
Research group met all the
minimum qualifications that
were listed in the Rfq.
Research group has over a
decade of experience providing
services to various
departments within the city,
research capacity really
designed for that's owned by
women of color. And based
right here in Oakland. And
some examples of work they've
with the vp, formerly of Unite
in the past. Is they actually
where the organization that
recommended in helped carry
the killings and act like
coaching fellowship, which is
the internationally recognized
recognized certification.
They've helped support dp
Network and the means which
brings together the grantees.
Is that time for networking
and collaborative learning.
They've developed from the
trainers models receive ei
professionals. Learn to be
peer facilitators. And they
have also they also just have
a lot of who with, Oakley to
cv eco system trusted by has
let it rest of the
organizations that we partner
with. Thank you to have any
questions. I'll start off with
a comment. I just want to
commend you for your work on
this. I think this is exactly
the work that ensures that
Oakland continues to be on the
front line of community
violence approaches, their
interruption approaches. So so
thank you. Council member
Brown. Excellent. Thank you so
much that report. Only have
one question. I'm looking at
the funding table noticing
item the half a million is
coming from the general fund
and then it's project
re-imagining public safety. I
so question is, was something
that was budgeted in the in
the budgeted or is this an
additional allocation? This is
in the budget. We tried to get
the rfq out before for the
current fiscal year started.
Unfortunately, there are a lot
of there are holdups. We were
able to carry forward that
money. And so it is within our
budget. Ok, perfect. Thank you
for the clarity. I'm not sure
if there's a motion on the
floor, but second So yes,
chair Brent. Yes, my question.
So job. Lady. Sure I made a
motion and council member
Brown made a second. Let's
proceed. Calling him the
names. Ascended to speak on
item 5, Jesse Rose Morris not
available in Blair Beekman.
Hi, Jess. Are just like to
point out that I'm like the
opd. The Department of
Violence Prevention in this
case actually did an rfp rfq
and didn't ask you all to skip
all of it so that they can
have their preferred vendor
for for this thing. And we
know that in the future
they're going to right now.
Our cue that's geared
specifically. So that only
flaw could get it. We had a
nice presentation from someone
he did a great job, whereas
with the flock item, I'm not
mistaken. That was done by
homered Heroes, who was
involved in an
officer-involved shooting
against someone he was. Killed
and he wanted to get lethal
and that cost the city tens of
millions of the 10 million
dollars. I believe in a
lawsuit. So it's interesting
that you're having that person
speak on clock. I'm glad to
see department about
prevention doing a great
thing. We should have less
officer-involved shootings. We
should have less flock and
more violence prevention. How
about that from my city
council with that, you know.
So. You see these a woman of
color Everybody got Cup. Some
have local element in other
months. But this ability to So
why people feel like Pacific
They and the group with the
melanin grew. They just a
blessing mellow everybody
Start with that people. Women
to whatever and just say women
and I got a problem with this
issue with women. With this
Department of Violence
Prevention. I don't see no
men. And how does group.
That's women and most of the
people you've got to deal
African-American man. And so
these women going to deal with
in they say in their report
when you look at them online
at they in. Ok, but we got a
lot going on with this
department with women. Being
in most of the roles of
leadership. Thank you for your
comments. Witching to Zoom
user Blair, you can unmute
yourself. All there. Big man.
Hopefully women in leadership
isn't so much of a problem.
I'm hoping with this item that
you it is really stepping up
their rage parts that they
can. And guess what? People
are dying from it again. So
there's a lot of outrage. I
think we can be prepared in
Oakland and I'm hopeful in
what council person, Brown
when have been studying in
data collection, right, we can
be ready. I think we can be
ready with with this sort work
and effort of this item. We
have a bunch of programs like
this that I simply I think
Create something pretty
important. Is respected at the
federal level. And we have to
continue to share what we know
and what we want to practice
is how to address our issues
the community. This can keep
it the way. So keep up the
good efforts of this type of
item, really a composite. A
lot of things on a lot of
levels. Thanks for that. Thank
you for your comments. Sure.
That includes all speakers and
we do have a motion made by
Chair Wang second by council
member Brown to put the
recommendations of staff and
toward this item to the JULY
20 per City Council agenda on
consent on row Councilmembers.
Brown. I buy I use eye and
chair along. I think you
motion passes will pour. I
support this item to the JULY
20 for City Council agenda on
consent. Reading in item
number 6. Adopt sorry, adopt a
resolution authorizing the
city administrator to apply
for except inappropriate.
Edward Memorial Justice
Assistance Assistance, Grant
say up to 324 $1324 for the
fiscal year 2025 Grand Award
period of OCTOBER. First 2025
through SEPTEMBER, 30th 2020
to support the department like
training equipment,
technology, and operational
enhancements. And we have 4
speakers on this item. Okay,
great. Please take it away.
Yes. Good evening. Chair and
members of the committee,
Russian warship, the Fiscal
division manager for the
Oakland Police Department.
Before you is to Justice
assistant grant for 2025. With
the total allocation of
324,000 $324. The Jack Ryan is
a fund fund a program
administered. Partnership the
county which applies for the
grant on behalf of the
department and the funding
allocations are based on the
population. Opd has been the
recipient of this award
approved by council since
2005. Given the department's
7.8 million decrease in
operation and maintenance as
outlined in the report, the
department proposed the
following. 25,000 Floyd
training professional
development. Which promote
ongoing training. That's not
related to polls. Which would
support training such as
women's leaders and law
enforcement mash. Asian peace
officers. Secondly, there is
$66,891 and $0.56 That's
allocated to technology. A
great supporting replacements
of aging computers that cannot
support Windows 11. Along with
a bit of software. It hardware
and other technology. Lastly,
there's $2000. I mean, 200
1000 dollars allocated for the
helicopter marine maintenance,
which helps support the
contracts. One of the contract
is Ashley being reported on
tonight. And so this helps
with a vital services for the
department. These funds apd to
support operations without
impacting the city's general
fund. This concludes my
presentation. All right. Thank
you. And I do appreciate since
one of my questions to opd in
advance with this was
providing more specificity on
those cash, the glories of of
funding. Any questions for my
colleagues. Let's go to the
public comment calling in the
needs of Senate to speak on
this item airs Dedan Jesse
Rose more Asadullah fallen
Blair Beekman. A high just
euros you know you can see of
he's just for the public the
first paragraph of Page 5 of
this report and its pretty
sloppy. There's even a
grammatical error on the last
sentence. This is, of course,
the race inequity part of the
report and helicopters have a
history of being using giving
its pollution in a
predominantly black
neighborhood, low-income and
black neighborhoods. This is
completely not looked at by
the opd, whereas you now
department of violate. I've
violence prevention actually
filled out the I racing equity
portion of this and actually
care, too. You know, care
about that part and also care
about our privacy, which opd
obviously does not. You know,
it's be interested in what
approvals. There are
helicopters because you just
try to match opd Zi, Zip lock
match up. Use policy of flock
to these use rather than the
other way around. So what's
happening here? Before
beginning of a point of
inquiry, if that's okay, there
is mentioned in this report,
use for the maintenance of the
helicopter, but that is also
another agenda item agenda
item number 7. So I do believe
there might be some overlap
with that. And also we don't
need to provide more funding
for equipment for the Oakland
Police Department. They are
vastly over funded because
right now by the Oakland
Police Department admission
they are understaffed. We do
not need give them more money
for equipment that they do not
eat and will not use and in
addition, these resources are
actually not something that
will actually help prevent
crime than about a sentencing
commission really sent a page
document in 2022. That wants 3
methods of increasing public
safety and crime prevention
rates of up to 51% in multiple
different categories and none
of them have to do with
increasing equipment budget. I
continue to ask you when any
grant comes before you look at
the of the ways that grant can
be used. So this particular
grant can be used crime
prevention and education drug
treatment, crime victims
assistance with assistance,
mental health programs,
behavior programs, veterans
Court and Rhis protection
programs. That money can be
used for all of that. So we we
are going to be using it for
training police go Quitman
technology. What is that? The
high a priority. You have a
responsibility anytime you see
anything on the agenda. If
there's options to look at the
options and aches. Why didn't
you consider this? Crime
whatever drug treatment,
mental health. Switching to
Zoom user Blair, you yourself
begin your comments. All
right. Thank I think
traditionally cac funding has
been used for more and severe
law enforcement tech needs
helicopters and things like
that. Nice to hear the items
so Paulo think thinking how
can be considered and in more
under terms the idea it being
used for office and not
dipping into the general fund.
Really nice to hear things
like that. So thank you. At
least in those terms. Work on
the Thank you. Thank you for
your comments chair. That
speakers on this item. Thank
you. Councilmember Brown. All
right. Thank you so much for
that I know that the
application was a joint
application with Alameda
County. It is interesting to
note that Oakland received the
second largest amount right of
that allocation. I do think
that the comment from the
public speaker around other
eligible uses would be
something that maybe consider
and we get to the helicopter
item. I know we're not there
yet, but I do recall in recent
conversations that that has
ongoing expense in maybe we
need to invest in. I think
I've heard just issues with
the helicopter we can talk
more about but I would be
interested in some of the
other eligible uses for these
funds because that list that
the public speaker and kind of
named out was very intriguing.
And we know the all those
things are services that our
community could be it could be
in need But all in all, thank
you for bringing the item in
weeks at the we accept free
money, right? We set the muggy
So I'm happy to move the item
along. Councilmember Fife.
Thank you. Threw the chair.
I'm also interested in how
were determining the breakdown
between marine and aviation
equipment. And the reason I'm
asking is because it feels
like I don't know, the House
of Dragons came through and
burned up all the ships in the
estuary and there's all these
abandoned boats and they are
there for a very, very long
time. And I'm not sure if it's
staff and that's the issue why
can't boats be cleared out
because of then it leads
environmental pollution in the
water and so I'd like to
understand how. Those funds
are being I guess, divvied up
between those 2, those 2 areas
and I would agree I brought an
item 3 years ago around the
fixed wing aircraft that is
better and well, it's debate
debated. The environmental
impacts, but definitely the
sound kuz get. Birds are
allowed in And we got to do
better. But and we're spending
like so much money on
maintaining equipment that is
just past its useful life. I
wouldn't I would like to see.
Funds going to support
clearing our waterways and you
know, using. But anyway, the
point is how are giving up
those grant funds? So through
the Actually, there was just a
contract and it will land
Marine for 1.4 million dollars
that would do the vessel
removals for the Marine. This
is actually to just work on
the Bowden. So there's
$100,000 allocated for that
for maintenance for that man.
The other 100,000 is for the
helicopter for what? The
$100,000 for a helicopter.
That's a drop in the bucket
wire. So total contract is
$850,000. So we're going to
use some general purpose funds
and then we have a new subject
funds as well. Our grant
funds. 2 for the helicopter
and what will will get to the
helicopter questions on the
next Thank you. You're
welcome. I'll add to the
helicopter question. So I
think in the re-imagining
public for it was established
helicopter in terms of regular
operational costs about 4
times the amount of the fixed
wing aircraft. Is the
department's starting to
explore how to move towards
the fixed wing aircraft model.
Good Evening. Council member
Captain William, the local
police department. Indeed, we
are. We've actually proposed
to the city Council on several
occasions, a very detailed and
robust document of the fixed
wing aircraft to its expected
life expectancy as well as
maintenance costs and council
member of 5 correct. That is
8. Significant reduction in
operating costs over the long
term for that aircraft. It
result in substantial savings
long term versus a rotor
aircraft. And so what is
holdup? At the time the
discussion was we talk to the
portion financing the
aircraft. Aside from that, the
proposal was complete. Okay.
Let's talk about this more in
the next item. Do I have a
second otherwise. I'll second
I want to also explore, as
I've said now for 6 years,
alternative uses, particularly
if there's any way that we can
investigate rape kits or any
way we can look into
supporting more
investigations. I'm I'm not
sure if that's possible with
these funds perhaps you can
answer for a second to start
clearing some of these cold
cases, particularly around you
know, some of the rape kits
that have not the process pd.
I would like to see that if
possible for additional uses.
We could use funds for we did
in the last grant that that
was in DECEMBER. We allocated
funds for the not. So we cover
that in the last great.
Covered it like like we
allocated. I'm gonna the crime
lab was awarded 200 k for
funds for just different
things in the crime. Yeah, I
would continuation of that
type of processing of grant
funds and for a second. Thank
you. We have a motion made by
council member Brown seconded
by Councilmember fight to
approve the recommendation of
staff and support this item to
the JULY 20 for City Council
agenda on Councilmembers.
Brown. I buy I use to eye and
chair I thank you. Motion
passes with more ice to port
this item to the JULY 20 for
City Council agenda on
consent. Reading in item
number 7. Adopt a resolution
authorizing the city
administrator to enter into
professional services
agreement with Red Oak wraps
Rotorcraft Support to provide
helicopter maintenance
services to the Oakland Police
Department for the period of
JULY. First 2026 to 6/30/2028
in an amount not to exceed
1 million, 700,000 dollars
with an option to extend the
agreement for 2 additional
years to JUNE. 30th 2030, for
total contract not to exceed
3 million, 400,000 dollars and
waving to local and small
local business enterprise
program requirements. And
there are 4 speakers on this
item. Okay. Great. You have a
few minutes. I know we are
close to 08:00pm. So would be
great to keep its the same.
Thank John. Better again of
the most prominent coaches to
Pfizer. Been supervisor for 17
years been fined helicopters
for 17 years. Here today for
the maintenance contract for
the helicopters. Helicopters
are. Maintenance intensive.
And specialized maintenance.
We put out an rfq. We're
asking for the same $850,000.
The same budget that we've had
for the last 6 years with no
increase, although. Labor
costs and parked cars have
increased, we have not
increased our budget. It's
just meant reduced flight
time. The two-year extension
is not automatic. Will have to
come back before you to ask
too, do the two-year
extension. It took city staff
8 months to get this to you.
So having that extention in
place will eliminate that. So
that's very helpful. Also, it
does lock in the manufacturer
to that labor rates for 4
years. Can save us money. So
your for country. I'm not
seeing any that Councilmember
Fife go ahead. I just wanted
to state because I've heard
now this presentation a few
times since I've been on
council. I think it's
imperative that this body
prioritized a fixed wing
aircraft fiscal purposes. But
as well as the environmental
impact that has on communities
that frequent, we have high
speed chases which I r
extremely dangerous and highly
restricted throughout the
state of California as being
potentially deadly and how a
fixed wing aircraft could
serve. Those uses. That would
take patrol cars out of out of
use when needing to engage a
suspect versus, you know,
potentially causing harm. That
comes from high-speed chases.
And since we're on the topic
of high-speed chases, I want
to say that the chase policy
was not a city council policy.
That was something that was
stated repeatedly over and
over again. It is a policy
that is a police department
policy. But that said, I think
it's it's important that we
prioritizing the next biennial
budget. A fixed wing aircraft
to save money to save lives.
And 2 address this outpouring
of funds that are consistently
occurring from trying to
maintain a piece of equipment
that is clearly outdated until
we figure out what to do about
incidents that do require
pursuit. To eliminate. All
needs a pursuit. We're going
to have some type of need for
equipment. And I think it.
We've been presented with the
information time and time
again. And just the fiscal
savings alone, I think are
important for us to consider
with our fiduciary
responsibility to this body.
To the city that I will move
this item forward, but I just
want to, again, just point out
that we are hemorrhaging money
from trying to maintain and
old piece of equipment that we
still have used for. And it
was, you Councilmember Houston
and I were talking about it
and he was like, you know,
that's what drones are for. I
do want to point out that in
inclement weather conditions,
drones are not useful. We also
have the issue of privacy when
it comes to drones. I know it
would go through the Privacy
Commission or what have you.
But I just we've been
presented enough times that
this is a fixed wing aircraft
would be a better use of
resources for the city. And I
just want to state that for
the record. And the
information is all there. You
can go to previous council
meetings previous in full
reports, Joe De Vries and I
worked on it a couple 3 years
ago. And so the information is
all there. We just need to
make it happen and we need to
prioritize it. Councilmember
Houston. Do and chair. He it.
So so I'm just So the public
can hear it is. The Holocaust,
a helicopter or what are they
for? What are we use them for?
There's many things or use
them for. Primarily. We see
them as a patrol car in the
sky. Whatever dispatch Census
2 will go to and cover. So you
pick the call, we can assist
on it. So so we have drones
that they say are outdated.
You can use that money for the
drones. I mean, should be able
to have drones that can fly.
And bad weather technology. We
can go to the moon. Come back,
you know, do all this right
along with the flock cameras,
can't they? I mean, if we got
flock and he's following. To
the city where we need to
helicopters for a fact.
Technology is he's been
upgraded. Bunch of things
there. I'm happy to talk about
your points, too. Drones and
helicopters are 2 items in
your tool box. Jones can't do.
A helicopters can do to help
countries can't do it. Drones
can do. So. For instance,
Jones are limited on the
distance. They can travel like
they can stay in the air.
Helicopter can stay out for an
extended period of time and
go. A farther distance. So
Jones can also get you. Right
close. Right? They can come.
You know, altitude right down
by the house or the yard or
wherever the call is and
obviously helicopter cats
going to stay farther up. So
they both have their own
unique distinct uses and what
they can be used for what they
can't. They're not
interchangeable. So so storms
us. Sorry, Councilmember. I
think one of the other
important mitigating factors
that wrong technologies
because it is today, sir. It
simply cannot maintain any
type of vehicle pursuits that
at, you know, speeds over 25
miles an hour. And as
councilmember fight that had
mentioned, just who they are
susceptible to inclement
weather and those limitations.
The helicopter or a fixed wing
aircraft would not be limited
by those. So at this point,
I'd technology wise drones are
certainly. They're up and
coming very quickly in terms
of technology increases of
usage and speed of things of
that nature. But they're not
there yet and they won't be
there for the foreseeable
future. The need for a
aircraft would optional. For
replacement. So last question
to chair, have we have we use
the helicopters for like
emergency saving someone's
life. Now you see it tv and
they say people often mouth.
That's a great question. The
helicopters, not a simple uses
item for local police
department And a great example
was just recently started than
a week and was fined. We had a
young lady. She felt she was
on a hike in the hills. She
and fell into ditch. She
requested assistance and
thanks to his expertise as
well as coordination with the
patrol division that the heir
to actually found her in in
the ditch with fallen directed
units and actually assisted
her back to safety. So to the
chair, you have to share those
stories. It's ironic
councilmember that the p I o
is actually putting that story
hopefully tomorrow. So so
those things that people need
to hear those as real-life
stories like, wow, if just
save somebodys life mifa they
cut because it used to those
stories need to be heard. So
this is why we need
helicopter. All right, ok?
Council member Brown. All
right. Well, I don't I'm not
going tried put a downer on
this, but gonna up live some
some some research that we
were able to find on this item
and kind of as it was already
stated. Sounds like we need to
move towards this investment
in the an alternative. But I
just wanted to flag for
everyone's awareness that this
particular group rsi in 2000,
maybe it's on your radar. They
actually there was a
50 million dollar wrongful
death lawsuit about from a
fatal crash that happened in
the Hills fire Fresno. And it
had to do with like
maintenance issues around,
like hydraulic issues before
the crash. And so in
investigating that they
actually found that it was, in
fact, like a wrongful death
due to like some maintenance
complications. So just wanted
to put that on the radar I
know that we continue to
invest time and time and
keeping this helicopter
operational. But I do think
that we MAY be at a point
where we want to invest in
something that would be better
long term I just I just want
to say it I'm not sure that
that case was on your radar
happened in 2000. The air unit
has a very strict policy in
terms of maintenance and
operational of modality
everyday started being a week
his team, the Golden Speck
helicopter, Dupree
inspections, post inspections,
which again to the fact that
helicopter is not simply
maintenance cost situation,
but also labor, intense
situation. But we do
appreciate you bringing that
they through decades of
experience have actually
learned and they have, in
fact, caught maintenance
challenges before they go up
in the air. So we're very
cognizant of that public
safety. Great. Thank you.
Colleagues Councilmember
Houston. More question to
chair. What years that
helicopter. So 2 units the
first one is 1990. Was what I
was in middle school and the
next one answer is 1993, ok,
cool, cool, cool. So I have a
question. What is the cost a
new helicopter? Top of line,
top of so the replacement cost
of brand new helicopter, sir,
would be 1 million dollars
more than a fixed wing
aircraft. 1 million dollars
more. Correct. 6 million
dollars or 6 Million? Correct?
Okay. How much does it cost to
maintain that helicopter per
year? Goes to those $250,000.
850, okay. So we just and how
long we've been doing this.
Their over 37 All right. So
great. I know what to do. And
the for the fixed wing
aircraft. What is the upfront
cost versus the annual packs?
5 million for an airplane and
we fully support lead relive
airplane. Also. And, you know,
what is the annual ongoing
maintenance costs of the fixed
wing aircraft? It'll be a 3rd.
One-third, ok? So 850,000 3,
correct? Correct. Calculation
that we did is that the fixed
wing aircraft dependent upon
financing options should
actually pay for itself in as
little 15 years of that. But
if you pay for cash would be
significantly less the
maintenance savings are are so
significant that by the time
to 37 years that we've paying
for for a rotary aircraft, you
could at 2 aircraft in service
at the city of Oakland with a
life expectancy of over 40
years, each as opposed to 10.
That's noteworthy. Just to
play a little bit of devil's
advocate. I support the idea,
but I guess like it's hard for
me understand for a fixed wing
aircraft. Do we need an
airplane like has earned
airport like how does that
work in terms of deployment?
Does it? Because I imagine
helicopter you know, lift off
from a helipad, but an
airplane requires more
runways. So how does that
work? Does it require more
travel time then for opd in
the case of an emergency
situation. Our helicopters are
currently makes to the local
airport and they're playing
also be based there. Okay,
great. And then in the sun air
that you described, which is
rescuing woman from the hills,
can a fixed wing aircraft
because, again, I'm imagining
this is just don't civilian
where helicopter can stays
static above the person. Can
the fixed wing aircraft do
something similar? Does it do?
We require still helicopter
equipment to do some sort
rescue like that the airplane
will fly and Orbitz and they
will be able look and direct.
Ground units to the victim.
Okay. Know they will not be
able to do the actual rescue
rescue. Okay. But it sounds
like ground units could have
the capacity to do that.
Correct, Okay. Go ahead.
Councilmember. He got let's
wrap it Last question. The
mobility is different. I mean,
if you in helicopter, you can
just stop you come back up
mobile in the aircraft. You
got to go around and around
and around. That's part of the
noise aspect also. So the
airplane is going to be
significantly higher fly
significantly higher than what
the helicopter does. So you're
not going to hear it. But the
airplane is going to have a a
significant camera on board
and that's how the job will be
performed is that the camera
will look down and make the
radio call ask questions. So
who's going operate this,
which big swing, put lot great
day. Our pilots. How many
pause? With a red one's is
operating with a rather have a
fixed. I have a brand new
helicopter. I would say that
week's travel working on this
project with the council as
well started in a week. And of
course, the helicopter is one
of those tools that is funded
rifle case. Its you need to
take specific skill set. So is
actually in terms of just job
satisfaction fun. The aircraft
so advanced that a twin engine
aircraft to the very low
profile that it is so safe for
pets with flies itself. You
want to second that
councilmember Houston. Moving
speaking. Sorry, moving to
public speakers calling him
the name that up to
speak on item number 7 errors
done just few rows. My thought
on the ball and Blair, big
man. Jesse Rose. More upside,
though pd just said they want
these helicopters because
they're fun to drive 1.7
million for why it like, like
I said to be in the meeting,
we could be civilian icing. I
have Pte. All right. I
civilian. I seen desk jobs at
opd. We could be looking into
their overtime fraud and then
we we could have the money
that you're going back and
forth about and debate about.
Their staff report says Page
3, these helicopters will be
used to surveil and intimidate
protesters. It's right in So
it's that they're going to do
that with these helicopters
just like they're doing with
Flock Councilmember one, you
want this mean and early but
east not flocking on the the
agenda. And I think you were
here when Ken Houston, I
flipped us off and fell asleep
on both of those. He means
when Flock was here before. So
here we are again. How do you
expect this mean? And at 8
o'clock when there's touch
such nonsense by the opd on
this agenda, who does this
council serve? Sam Singer, the
people of Oakland. That's what
we want to know. Where seen
what's happening here? Hello
Council airs Don. We do. I do
love that. Councilmember Brown
account. Number 5, you want to
lower the cost of what we are
spending and make it so that
we are actually helping the
people of Oakland. There are
ways to, quote, lower
emergency room visits by 80%
reduced the number of jail
days by 130%, reduce
probability of committing
crime by 80% and increase the
probability of employment by
24%. None of them are funding
helicopters. None of them are
funding surveillance cameras.
What they are is public income
programs, things that will
actually provide income
through employment or public
benefits to the people of
Oakland, access to care,
whether it's health care,
mental health services and
substance abuse. Use a
substance use treatment. All
of these things have actual
research effect that are
beneficial for the people of
Oakland. And I think those
should be prioritized over
equipment. That is fun to
drive for the people of
Oakland for the people of
Oakland. This is what we need
to do. Thank you. Thank you
for your service. That a lot
of issues with police. But I
realize we need your service.
See some of these people out
here when certain things
happen, you know, did it all
call? They all call you? If
they get robbed or something
going on. But anyway,
appreciate your conversation
about the chase thing. That's
one of the most important
aspects of having the
availability of these cops
because we can't do the chase
They can come up broad
spectrum of territory of
Somebodys kidnapped. We got
out and were alert. You can
follow They drawbacks with the
expenses that is involved with
it. But we have cities like
Los Angeles, San Diego, San
Jose, Sacramento, Stockton,
Pasadena. And other cities
that have invested in us. And
does have a service quality
service that exists its
expensive bill. And from my
perspective, if we can keep
it, I would like to keep it.
Thank you for your comments.
Missile Apollo. Switching to
zoom user Blair, you yourself.
I big Ben. We're talking about
important policy to beach
item, I really you know, city
of Oakland, City Council and
an opd really take the time
and care to want to better
explain to the public what
exactly is going on with the
current contract process. You
guys keeping that really,
really a we try to practice
how to be accessible with the
public on the subject and
accountable. This item So so I
I I my personal feeling
helicopters can be a bit more
flexible. Picks wing aircraft.
But I don't know the full
story. It sounds like picks
pick. Spring has been slowly
developing here in Oakland for
a while where I have
understand it yet. And so I'm
just starting to. But I hope
we respect the maneuverability
and flexibility helicopters
can offer. Thank you for your
comments chair. That concludes
all speakers on this item. Go
ahead. Councilmember Houston.
I just want to thank the
officers for coming in share
with them. That is nothing
wrong with enjoying your job.
Nothing wrong with that, sir.
And I do the pursuit and chase
policy because it has been
effective. Great. Let's move
to the vote. Thank you. We
have a motion made by
Councilmember 5 0nd by
Councilmember Houston to put
the record we move Councilor
5, give a comment or question
on this item. Just need to
extend the meeting. Make a
motion to extend the meeting.
Do we have to? It what time?
Okay. Sounds like we don't
have to do until 09:00pm 9.
Make it for 9 because we're
going to be here tonight.
Let's take the vote. Thank
you. We have a motion made
Councilmember 5 0nd delay,
Councilmember Houston to
approve the recommendations of
staff and board this item to
the JULY 20 for City Council
agenda on real councilmembers.
Brown. I buy use endure one. I
think you motion passes with
4. I support this item to the
JULY 20 per City Council.
Jenna, on consent item 8 was
already dispensed with. Now
reading in item number 9.
Adopt a resolution authorizing
the city administrator to
enter into memorandum of
understanding with the
California Highway Patrol to
some a vehicle accident
reports electronically
pursuant to be a vehicle code.
Section 2, 0, 0, 0, 8, And
there are 3 speakers on this
item. All right. Let's call
them use up here. Good
evening, councilmembers and
members of the public
warnings. The sauce was on the
deputy chief of the bill risk
management. It and tonight
presenting to you requesting
council to enter into it.
Memorandum of understanding
with chp regarding our
collision data. So I'm not
sure how many of you are.
Alright, everybody understands
where we're at with our record
management system. We are
doing an upgrade to a record
management system long overdo
At least my career of 26 plus
years. We've had the same
system. So now we're upgrading
to mark 43, which will be the
overseer of our record
management system. And in
doing that, we're going to
have crash data, which is a
piece of there, Marc, 40
threes program. What this is
going to allow us to do with
this memorandum of
understanding is right now.
Currently, we literally have a
person that makes photocopies
of each and every one of our
collision reports put it in an
envelope, put a stamp on it
and put it in the mail. This
will now allow us to send this
data and the chronically. So
as soon as the report is
approved by the investigators
and any sites citations that
were issued from the
collision, that all gets put
in. It literally gets sent to
the system and its
electronically sent to chp.
This is important because this
is where dot get all of their
information through sweaters,
which is the statewide
integration traffic reporting
system, right? So this is
where we get our high injury
network. This is where we draw
from what intersection to the
most dangerous. What can we do
to make them better? How do we
slow them down? So this is
just absolutely no cost.
There's no cost involved in
this. It literally just takes
are handwritten reports. Mixon
Digital and we get to send in
the chp. It'll save us a lot
of labor hours. So that they
can do other things with in
traffic and catch up. Cut
right into it. A technical
adviser that'll help me with
any technical programming
officer pull into this,
helping with that. But that's
basically it and kind of make
a fast wide. It is quickly as
I could. Great. And is this
actually there was some
reporting earlier this year
on, you know, an excessive
amount of overtime. Was it
connected to actually the
collision reports that were
yes is actually meant to solve
for. It will help. It won't
solve all of it, but it will
help the actual investigation
takes the man hours to
actually go through and figure
out what caused the collision
who cited what was a problem,
right? So that part not gonna
help as much, but it does help
with then taking it and
processing it and then getting
it to the systems. Will give
all the information hard to
get all the look better. So it
will definitely help with that
because in that person can
maybe start helping with some
of the other parts in traffic
with some of the grandson,
some of the other things that
are going on many, many hours
per day. And then one other
question I just have is as we
look to civilian, I certain
positions is it required by
law. As opd is required to
submit collision. Dated 2, the
chp by law and that it
references California vehicle
code code. Excuse me, 2008, a
does it require law
enforcement agency to do those
submittals or is it possible
to have the Department of
Transportation at some future
date take on a portion of this
work? Not sure if dog could do
it, but we have professional
staff that does it right now.
So they're the ones that
actually make physical copies.
Ended up. So that part's
already done. But it does
require a sworn officer, too
investigated an issue, the
citation. So that's where that
part comes in. Okay. That's
couple clarification. Thank
you. Let's go to public
comment calling in the names
that signed up to speak on
item number 9, just the Rose
Marie misses settle the ball
and Libby Pigman. Hi, just you
brought up the overtime fraud
issue? It's a good one. Why
don't they electron when they
do electronic thing for time
sheets, they tele could. They
don't want to. Why don't you
demand that they do it and
make them calm with a proposal
submit their time sheets,
electronic electronically. So
we don't have massive overtime
fraud by this department. When
is that going to happen?
Councilmember said as we look
to civilian certain positions,
as I mentioned at the
beginning of this meeting, the
longest item that has been on
on the penny. No date
scheduled list is
Councilmember Fife's item to
demand that we civilian eyes
these positions. Why don't you
schedule? Will save millions
and millions of dollars. And
we can see with this council
refusing to do it that you
guys are in the pockets p o a
piedmont landlords and all
kinds of other right-wing
actors. We have one council
member serving the city of
Oakland in 7 frauds and the
staff report lies about Alpr
here into sb 34 and admits
that this data is going So it
mentions in the report. Once
you submit the data. Related
to the collisions, you have to
strip the report of the name
address. So security number
driver's license number, what
are you subcommittee? I mean,
come What are you submitting
to chp? A pitch of the call? I
don't get this sanctuary city
stuff. This privacy stuff. You
can submit any information.
Want nobody to know nothing
about But you've got these
telephones and equipment that
you all use and everybody
knows your business. So
privacy. Come y'all. What
would you submitting?
Switching to Zoom user Blair?
You can unmute yourself and
begin your comment. I as this
is an item with thp. I feel
it's important make an
important time to simply
remind chp has a large part
the current lack situation
with opd and why that contract
is or is not being signed at
this time. Really good luck on
working on accountability and
explaining that to the public
before the upcoming opd
meeting now and September
October on these items, this
item Yeah, hopefully it can
help with agency, but what
does that efficiency can to
help with overall good luck.
How we are. Our policies can
be we're with each other and
that we want to practice.
Well, thanks. Thank you for
comments. Sure. That speakers
on this item. Have a motion
from this body. So moved.
Thank you. We have a motion
made by council member bands
Councilmember Bike to approve
the recommendations of stop
and to mark this item to the
JULY 21st City Council agenda
real councilmembers. Brown. I
I use I and Cher Wang, I think
you motion passes with more. I
support this item to the JULY
20 for City Council agenda on
consent. Be out to open for
me. Sorry clerk before we move
on to open forum. I making the
request of the parliamentary
can you recap what the amended
title is for item 8? This was
at the city administration's
request. Absolutely through
the chair. Just clarifying for
item 8. The motion title was
to delete the alp. Our
reference from the original
resolution. So that was this a
being stricken and to delete
the reference to the
attachment e which was opr
report which is contained in
the resolution at the first
result provisions. So those
items would be stricken. Thank
you. Thank you. Moving. Moving
on to open warm calling in the
names that signed up to speak
Matalin. Stacy need to feed
Jesse Rose more. Joy around.
Air on us. Not all Loveland
men. And Seleka Thomas. Hi,
just euros You know, when we
consider that corruption and
feckless malfeasance of the
city Council I wonder about
some of the council members to
dating campaign on being in
the pockets of Sam Singer and
the and Piedmont landlords.
And like a body of team for a
count commerce is. And I think
specifically about you're
going to Brown, you know, I
think gaslit by several people
on the city council when it's
when it comes to plot gaslit
by Charlie Wong's office. I
think gaslit by Zac Unger.
John, I Ramachandran doesn't
want to respond anything. Your
office is completely
unresponsive. Now you say that
you serve everybody. You see
the serve, nobody and what I
would like to now. When did
when did you turn to become
this kind of councilmember?
When did this happen? Who said
what to you to make are those
interest and said the people
of the city, I would like to
know that. Thank you.
And it
is needed the be in a street
vendor here in Oakland since I
was 19 years old from what
we've seen over the past 2 and
a half The city's treatment of
an have house from eating that
he's team hit Steven does has
been unsafe. The city needs to
stop all raise on street
vendors and do a serious legal
review. Oakland's inforcement
pot practices and the vendors
and advocates have collected
enough factual support that,
you know, that investigation
and with open exceeded his
legal authority. Look pride
centers of its property
without adequate processes. Do
both permitted and unpermitted
vendors have been impacted.
Our legal representative
requested documents. He was
ignored. He requested them
again. He was ignored. I
requested them. My request was
redirected. Know documents
were given and either way to
the documents don't exist,
which is a problem and unsafe
or the documents being
withheld and then was also a
state visit. My daughter Joy
summer, Ali, I want talk about
a few things. One, I don't
support the flock cameras into
your time. A public safety but
never have I ever heard talk
about a bunker that we can go
to in case of any type of like
people's things, not just
going to happen or something
like that. I that's something
I should put of like. Where do
we go? If our city is
destroyed? Are we on our own?
Bridges? Doric Street vending
culture neighborhood based
economic system within the
open community should not
become the lies are erase. It
is part of the Oakland
identity and should be
protected and supported. This
is a quality of life for
working class of black and
brown floats. Now cause all of
us have multiple jobs and side
hustles to be able to exist in
the city were born in raised
in our culture and quality of
life keeps getting negatively
impacted by and for people who
are not from here and can't
figure out how to fit in.
There has been talk about the
trash and loud noise at the
lake. We vendors how all agree
we have as a city of 4
cardboard trash can. Hire
staff. Councilmember Wang
Councilmember Brown comes
member Phife and Councilmember
Houston I sincerely hope that
you consider what it means for
a community to be safe. Does
it make a community safe if we
have cameras at every corner
doesn't make a community safe.
If we have multiple
helicopters above our heads,
does it feel safe to have men
with arms and weapons on
constantly patrolling every
street. Corner weather is
eyesore. Oakland pd. I do not
believe that a safety safety
starts with community safety
starts with housing. Safety
starts with health care. And
it starts here in this
committee. But you
consistently tonight have
shown that you will neglect
safety of Oakland, citizens of
the people of this town
because you do not care for
the safety of the reddest
residents of Oakland and
multiple of you have ignored
multiple public comments, not.
Madeline, Stacey, I'm opposed
to the recent direction the
city has taken against our
street vendors. It is violent
gatekeeping. The courts have
already decided over and over
again across California. Your
approach is a violation of
street vendors, constitutional
rights. The state government
recently passed the Safe
Sidewalk Vending Act sb 946,
which street decriminalize
street vending statewide
shifting of force meant away
from criminal penalties. What
the town is doing is in direct
violation of both the series
of lawsuits, the side of a
street vendor's rights and sb
946, every dollar spent
policing vendors should be
redirected into small business
grants, equipment, subsidies
and technical assistant
assistance program. Street
vendors are entrepreneuers and
making something or nothing.
Their skill should be
recognized, respected and
honored, not criminalized.
Tiffany is not just about
food. Our commerce, it's about
dignity. It's about who gets
to exist in public spaces to
criminalize of regulate. This
ecosystem is not just bad
policy is betrayal up.
Oakland's identity. Hello City
Council. My name is Seleka
Time and I would like to
address the 3 murders violence
on JANUARY. 3rd, 2026 on 80th
and another 3 murders plus
fines by victims injured one
Avenue by a hit and run on MAY
16th 2026. I foresee my
condolences the families and
to the victims. A 5th Avenue
has always been known for is
tragic traffic collisions in
crime. So can we please sb
cameras, peak bumps and a
redesigned to slow down
traffic in that area to reduce
crime. And MAY we also please
reinstate the bliss program
for Adam Attic. Trash cleanup
in that area and poor. All
Oakland high spots so that we
don't have to wait on anyone
to report it. Thank you. And I
just want to say that all of
you are doing a very good job
in Oakland has came so far
even with the murders. We're
down from about 130 murders
per year. And we're down to 57
and so this is one thing I
know me all the time. I know
that ms Brown works taught.
And does homework. And makes
contribution that a ballot.
And sometimes we go ahead
system. But you must system
some stand and he want to talk
about something else. But I
have to defend you. You very
efficient. Just like Fyffe. We
fall out all the time. But you
must system. And anybody say
you don't do work. You do just
like in Houston, you do to
work. Even this Wang. You do
work. You know, we fall out
all the But I respect that.
You do the work. It might not
be the workout will. But you
work. And nobody come in here
and tell you. What are you
doing? She's doing halt work.
Ms Brown. And thank you. All
of you. Okay. So we all fly
you call the police on. Thank
you for your ball as switching
to zoom speak a player. You
yourself begin your comment.
Plant thanks to the meeting
today are I'm pretty
disappointed. However, I'm
thankful I the new police
chief sounds pretty
interesting. He's been around
Oakland for a while. He He
knows the importance of
community and participation of
community that's good for
getting it said that the
administration is
understanding that concept as
well at this time. And,
Brooke, what did they want to
practice their their form of
policy making their
understanding the community's
role in what they've
developer, police oversight
and other things. I think that
starting to happen more. Good
luck. We can talk more about
clock accountability and that
we can talk about the concept
not a better accountability
would block exactly happened
with their contact things. But
we start to really address the
concept keep more strategic
placement of our tech that can
reduce tech year mall in small
amount and that can Thank you
for your comments are that
includes all speakers. Create
Councilmember Fife. I thank
you. Chair Wang for allowing
me the privilege to just
clarify for some of the public
speakers about my contribution
to community in Oakland and
I'll be brief because I don't
talk about what I do. I am not
a social media MAY even where
and always in the public
sharing what I do and part of
the reasons why don't talk
about it is because the
conditions that I want to see
change in the community are
not solved yet. So I don't go
out and celebrate the fact
that I've been a part of the
study group's political study
groups to provide political
education to the community or
safe houses. When there are
incidents with Nazis other
issues in our community were
my people have had to go into
hiding because of being docks
for the work we do in
community or the birthing
centers or the medical
training or the independent
schools or I could talk about
the things that I've done in
this city that most of you all
had haven't even thought of to
support my communities. So
before the public gets up here
and talks about what I'm not
doing, any bodies not doing, I
suggest more research. I don't
disagree with public being
able to state what they want.
I want to say or what they
want to see. But I take it
personally when somebody comes
up here talking about what I'm
not doing and the community
and that's how I heard you, my
friend. So everyone has the
right to point out the
criticisms or the critiques or
the challenges. But what I'm
saying when it comes to
Councilmember Fife as I was
organizer in the streets of
West Oakland for almost 30
years before I got here, which
is what put me here. So check
my record before you come up
here talking about me because
I I got it from the mud and I
will continue to do what I
need to do for my people for
black people in Oakland. We
got to do both and we can't
talk about the utopia that we
want to see if we haven't
created the systems for that
in the community today. And
I'm very well aware of what is
needed about what is is
studied, what is research what
we need to keep people safe.
But the difference between me
and most people, especially
people who were just talking
and meetings. I put the work
in and I never this is the
first time I ever have talked
at length about I I I with
sometimes all come up here and
get it twisted. I have like we
have my collective. We are
about shoot. And should know
that. Thank you. Of course,
Councilmember Houston. Yeah, i
just wanted to just say I'm
glad Council move. If I say we
she said because I'd like to
say just a few things about
just on the strength people
could tell me that I'm doing
wrong district 7. If they from
distance 7 now give a rip what
they say. But the reason why I
said saying this is because
council member Brown. That's
my girl, right? I mean, she
guides me through she doing a
She's across the city and I'll
stand to fire any day of week.
So Kuzma really do a good job.
Keep it up. And if from
district 7, you know, we you
know what, I feel. Thank you.
Colleagues. I think with that.