1 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:20,320 Good morning. We're going to get started 2 00:05:17,199 --> 00:05:24,000 this morning with an invocation led by 3 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:25,919 the Reverend Wendy, pastor at St. Luke's 4 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,080 Methodist Church. And that'll be 5 00:05:25,919 --> 00:05:30,800 followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led 6 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:33,840 by Brett and Luke Santiago representing 7 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:37,320 Scouting America Troop 226. Please stand 8 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:37,320 as you are able. 9 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:44,720 Let us pray. God of us all, we give you 10 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:48,639 thanks for this beautiful day, a gift 11 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:51,600 created by you, full of opportunities. 12 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:54,000 Help us to make the most of each moment. 13 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,000 Give us eyes to see the needs around us 14 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,720 and then fill us with your loving 15 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:01,360 kindness and courage so that we can 16 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,360 respond in the best manner. Let us 17 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,240 embody the values that have made our 18 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,880 community so successful. Help us to be 19 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:11,680 innovative in the face of difficulty and 20 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,600 respond with empathy and respect. We 21 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:16,319 give you thanks for the Oklahoma City 22 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:19,039 community for all of its diversity and 23 00:06:16,319 --> 00:06:21,360 strengths. Give each one of us the 24 00:06:19,039 --> 00:06:24,479 resolve to continue to work for its 25 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:26,160 success now and for the future. We give 26 00:06:24,479 --> 00:06:28,800 you thanks for Mayor Holt and the 27 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,880 Oklahoma City Council leadership. They 28 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,199 are committed to a brighter future and 29 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,520 we are grateful for their hard work. 30 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:37,360 Please bless them and their families. 31 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,840 Ease their worries and meet them at 32 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:42,160 their deepest point of need so that they 33 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:44,639 can have clear focus on the greater good 34 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:47,440 for this community. Fill them with 35 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:49,840 compassion and resolve, tenderness and 36 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:52,639 strength, and an appreciation of the 37 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:55,360 past while they dream of the future. Be 38 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:59,880 with us all and help us to live lives of 39 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,880 joy and purpose. Amen. 40 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,080 Please stand and join me in the pledge 41 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:11,280 of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to 42 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:14,080 the flag of the United States of America 43 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:17,680 and to the republic for which it stands, 44 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:22,120 one nation under God, indivisible, with 45 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,120 liberty and justice for all. 46 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:29,039 » Thank you, Pastor Lambert, and thank 47 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:30,800 you, Brett and Luke. 48 00:07:29,039 --> 00:07:34,560 All right, I call this meeting of the 49 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:36,720 city council to order, and I do have uh 50 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,800 one presentation to make. and I will 51 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:42,360 make my way to the front for that under 52 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,360 office of the mayor. 53 00:07:48,330 --> 00:07:52,639 [clears throat] So, if you guys want to 54 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:56,520 go ahead and join me up here at the 55 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:56,520 front, all of you please. 56 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,680 All right. Well, June is National Safety 57 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,199 Month. And to learn a little bit more 58 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,680 about that, I would ask the clerk to 59 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:09,919 read this proclamation. 60 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,919 » Whereas the city of Oklahoma City is 61 00:08:09,919 --> 00:08:14,400 committed to providing a safe and 62 00:08:11,919 --> 00:08:17,039 healthy work environment in all forms 63 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:19,919 for its employees. And whereas the city 64 00:08:17,039 --> 00:08:22,479 of Oklahoma City has taken a proactive 65 00:08:19,919 --> 00:08:24,080 stance in providing a positive, secure, 66 00:08:22,479 --> 00:08:26,879 and healthy workplace through 67 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:29,840 partnerships with organizations like the 68 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:32,479 National Safety Council and observation 69 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:34,800 of National Safety Month. And whereas 70 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:37,039 the city's risk management division has 71 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,599 worked to ensure the safety of all city 72 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:42,719 employees by setting standards and 73 00:08:39,599 --> 00:08:45,600 delivering training courses designed 74 00:08:42,719 --> 00:08:48,399 to enhance employees awareness of risk 75 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:52,399 while continually improving workplace 76 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:54,560 health. And whereas the risk managements 77 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:56,959 the city's riskmanagement division 78 00:08:54,560 --> 00:09:00,480 successfully conducted and will continue 79 00:08:56,959 --> 00:09:02,959 to conduct a variety of safety related 80 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,680 activities for city employees to promote 81 00:09:02,959 --> 00:09:08,720 a culture among all employees that 82 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:11,760 allows them to start safe, work safe, 83 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,600 and finish safe. Now therefore, I, David 84 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,080 Hull, mayor of the city of Oklahoma 85 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:19,680 City, do hereby proclaim the month of 86 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:21,360 June 2026 to be National Safety Month in 87 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:23,120 Oklahoma City. 88 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,720 » Now, of course, uh, safety means a lot 89 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,800 of things. It's a broad word, but in 90 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:29,120 this context, we're very specifically 91 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:31,600 talking about the safety of our 5,000 92 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,920 employees. Um, and nothing captures it 93 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,680 better than that phrase, start safe, 94 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,920 work safe, and finish safe. We want 95 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:40,959 everybody to go home at night. We are 96 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:43,440 joined here by um most of the risk 97 00:09:40,959 --> 00:09:45,120 management division as well as their 98 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,120 fearless leader. Although if you're the 99 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,399 risk manager maybe there's uh a little 100 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:53,200 fear uh in your job but um we would love 101 00:09:50,399 --> 00:09:55,920 to hear a few words from you. So I would 102 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,279 hand uh the microphone to Levita Breath. 103 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,680 » Thank you. 104 00:09:57,279 --> 00:10:01,600 So, um, the city has participated in 105 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:03,760 National June Safety Month for about 10 106 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:06,399 years, and every year, risk management 107 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,800 seeks to provide meaningful and relevant 108 00:10:06,399 --> 00:10:10,640 training to our employees. This year, 109 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,720 through our internal partnerships, we 110 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,640 were able to provide training on fire 111 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:17,360 extinguisher training, how to recognize 112 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,920 the signs of a stroke. Um, through our 113 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:22,640 external partnerships, we did training 114 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,880 on dog bite safety, uh, work zone 115 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:28,000 safety, and trenching and excavation 116 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:30,000 safety. Um, we had 21 working days in 117 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,640 the month of June and we were able to 118 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,800 train about 411 119 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,240 employees. So, we're really proud of the 120 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,560 work that we did during the month of 121 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,800 June. We also had an opening in our 122 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:44,079 safety team. So, we were reduced in 123 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:47,279 staff, but the rest of risk management 124 00:10:44,079 --> 00:10:49,839 jumped in, made swag bags, hundreds of 125 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:52,720 swag bags. They signed for doughnut and 126 00:10:49,839 --> 00:10:54,720 coffee deliveries, passed out lunches, 127 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,120 introduced speech speakers, and they 128 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,279 even moved furniture. So, they did a 129 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,279 phenomenal job in making this a seamless 130 00:10:59,279 --> 00:11:02,800 and wonderful experience for all city 131 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:04,240 employees. And I wanted to publicly 132 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,240 thank them today. 133 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,680 » Very good. And we want to publicly thank 134 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,680 all of you. So, let's show our 135 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:10,680 appreciation. 136 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,000 » Thank you all so much. 137 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:34,720 All right, that concludes Office of the 138 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,238 Mayor, which brings us to item four, 139 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,519 items from council. And there is a 140 00:11:38,238 --> 00:11:42,720 [clears throat] resolution here, 141 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:44,399 resolution 4A, approving travel expenses 142 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,240 for council members Stone, Hinkle, and 143 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:48,480 Pennington to attend a technical tour of 144 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,399 the Utah Transit Authority in Salt Lake 145 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,160 uh later this month. And we do have a 146 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:56,120 resident who has signed up to speak on 147 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,120 this item, Tom Elmore. 148 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:07,200 Thanks for the the time here, folks. You 149 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:10,160 may all have a a map of the rail system 150 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:15,639 that was extent surrounding Oklahoma 151 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:15,639 City Union Station in the year 2008. 152 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,920 14 years before that, 153 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:25,040 some of your citizens began battling, 154 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:27,839 teaching, cajoling, begging, pleading 155 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:30,399 for preservation of Oklahoma City Union 156 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:32,959 Station's 12 track wide, 8b block long 157 00:12:30,399 --> 00:12:37,680 rail center, which happened to lie at a 158 00:12:32,959 --> 00:12:40,560 strategic confluence of an 866 mile 159 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:43,120 stateowned railway network managed by 160 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:45,440 ODOT. But unlike anything else managed 161 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:48,160 by ODOT, it always more than paid for 162 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:52,399 its own maintenance. So the highway boys 163 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:54,160 at ODOT set about to destroy it. In 164 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:56,399 1989, 165 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:59,440 Union Station, which had been fully 166 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:02,000 restored from dereliction with vagrants 167 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:04,079 building fires on the Terzo floors of 168 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,480 the grand waiting rooms, the great 169 00:13:04,079 --> 00:13:08,800 Thurman Magby, late lamented Thurman 170 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,880 Magby, bought the property, made it the 171 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,680 headquarters of his Zenith Electronics 172 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,839 distributorship. He would never reveal 173 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:18,480 how many millions of dollars he poured 174 00:13:15,839 --> 00:13:20,160 into the meticulous 175 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:23,519 reconstruction 176 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:25,680 and restoration of Union Station. Three 177 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:28,720 rail platforms in the yard serving six 178 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:31,920 tracks with underground passages from 179 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:34,480 the great hall waiting rooms to each of 180 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:37,040 those platforms, including underground 181 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,680 passages from the express room where 182 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:43,040 they use tractor trams to bring the 183 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:46,240 revenue sustaining express freight and 184 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:48,800 mail to the trains minute to minute 185 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:53,680 every day. It was all there. It was all 186 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:56,320 there. It was all there and it was given 187 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:58,320 by the Federal Transit Administration to 188 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:03,000 the city of Oklahoma City to be our 189 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,000 transit center in 1989. 190 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:08,160 Immediately the Department of 191 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:10,720 Transportation set about to destroy it. 192 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:13,600 I battled ODOT 193 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:16,800 and we told the truth to this body for 194 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:19,040 15 years. You may know that every time 195 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:21,120 you got by a gallon of motor fuel 2.86 196 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:24,160 86 cents of the federal fuel tax goes to 197 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:26,720 the federal transit trust fund. It's 198 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,639 going to buy transit somewhere. 199 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,880 I was asked to sit on the original 200 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:33,199 citizen advisory panel for the maps wind 201 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,760 project for a 2.7 mile trolley 202 00:14:33,199 --> 00:14:36,160 circulator downtown before the bombing. 203 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,519 That's 204 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,839 » 30 seconds remaining. 205 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:42,000 » That's that's how far back it was. 206 00:14:39,839 --> 00:14:43,760 Unfortunately, our congressman Ernest is 207 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,639 had other interests and rather than 208 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:49,680 providing the 80% federal match to the 209 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:52,800 20% we provided through MAPS one, he 210 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:56,000 gave us some short-lived Cracker Box 211 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:59,199 motor trolleys and took money to build a 212 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,360 massive a new light rail line in Salt 213 00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:02,880 Lake City, Utah in time for the 2002 214 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,360 Winter Olympics. By the way, he now 215 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,040 lives there. So, we also battle 216 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,000 congressman took all of those years and 217 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,839 we [clears throat] tried our best to get 218 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,240 the council interested in backing what 219 00:15:09,839 --> 00:15:14,639 we were trying to do and recognizing the 220 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:17,279 overwhelming value. Mayor Rocky Anderson 221 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:19,760 of Salt Lake City told we're over time 222 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:20,880 now. Is there statement you want? Okay. 223 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,839 Thank you. 224 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:28,279 » All right. Well, item 4A is uh in front 225 00:15:23,839 --> 00:15:28,279 of us now and we could take a motion. 226 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:37,240 We have a motion in a second. cast your 227 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,240 votes. 228 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:43,279 Passes unanimously and with the 229 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:45,199 necessary six affirmative votes. Item 230 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:46,240 five, city manager reports. Mr. City 231 00:15:45,199 --> 00:15:47,519 Manager, 232 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,600 » Thank you, mayor. We just have a couple 233 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:51,440 of items on today. [clears throat] The 234 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,199 first one is the June sales and use tax. 235 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,519 So, it's the final sales and use tax for 236 00:15:53,199 --> 00:15:58,720 the year. Um, we did finish, as we had 237 00:15:55,519 --> 00:16:00,800 discussed previously, about $5.8 million 238 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,519 over target for both. Both sales and use 239 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:07,279 tax finished strong with uh sales tax at 240 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:10,480 about 4% use tax was I think 14% for the 241 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:13,120 month and overall for the year um sales 242 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,279 tax ended up at 2.95% growth for the 243 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:19,600 year above what we had targeted. Sales 244 00:16:15,279 --> 00:16:22,639 tax I mean a use tax ended up at um 6.52 245 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,720 uh% growth and so in both cases they 246 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:26,320 were over target. We finished with 5.8 8 247 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,560 million over due to some of our 248 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,240 expenditures and other revenues being 249 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,240 other revenues being below target, some 250 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:35,040 of our expenditures being overt target. 251 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,639 We do right now expect to be just use a 252 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,560 little bit of fund balance in this year, 253 00:16:36,639 --> 00:16:40,720 but with sales and use tax, we finished 254 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,480 really strong. 255 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,759 And then we have um the claims and 256 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,160 payroll on and that can be found on 257 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:48,720 OKC.gov. That's all that I have. 258 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,720 » All right. Thank you. Item six, journal 259 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:54,839 of council proceedings. We have items A 260 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,839 and B we could take with one motion. 261 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:01,399 We have a motion and a second. Cast your 262 00:16:58,399 --> 00:17:01,399 votes. 263 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,160 » I'll vote yes. 264 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:14,319 » Passes unanimously. Uh item seven, 265 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:17,199 request for uncontested continuences. 266 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:19,199 Item 11 C is listed on the agenda to be 267 00:17:17,199 --> 00:17:21,199 deferred to September 15th. Is there 268 00:17:19,199 --> 00:17:23,199 anything else, Mr. City Manager? Yes, we 269 00:17:21,199 --> 00:17:27,760 have several items on today. Um, 270 00:17:23,199 --> 00:17:30,559 beginning on page 21, [snorts] item 11B, 271 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,559 PUD 21105, 272 00:17:30,559 --> 00:17:37,039 and then item and that will be deferred 273 00:17:32,559 --> 00:17:40,960 to um August the 4th. Then item 11D is 274 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:43,760 PUD 2124. That will be deferred to 275 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,520 August the 4th as well. And then item 276 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:49,760 11E, 277 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:52,720 PUD 2134 will be deferred to U August 278 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,867 the 4th as well. 279 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,480 And then continuing on page 23 with 280 00:17:54,867 --> 00:17:58,160 [music] dilapidated structures. All the 281 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,840 items I list on dilapidated and 282 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:03,600 unsecured, we will strike from the 283 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:05,760 agenda. Beginning with item A, 284 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,080 and this is 124 North Allen Street, the 285 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,559 owner has removed. And then item B is 286 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:12,640 6900 London Way along with other 287 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:16,400 addresses. We're reworking that for a 288 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:20,480 new owner. Uh, continuing on page 23 on 289 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:22,240 1101, unsecured structures. Item A, 124 290 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,640 Allen Street, the owner is removed. Item 291 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:27,520 D, 17017, 292 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:30,559 Crest Valley, the owner has secured. 293 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:33,200 Item E, 4812 Dimple Drive, the owner has 294 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:35,919 secured. Item F, 2612 South Harvey 295 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:38,240 Avenue, the owner has secured. Item N, 296 00:18:35,919 --> 00:18:41,520 1416 Southwest 28th Street, the owner 297 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:45,200 has secured. and item R500 Southeast 298 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:48,720 47th Street the owner has secured on 299 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,480 page 24 with abandoned buildings item 11 300 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:53,840 P1 301 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:56,799 item A 6900 London Way with additional 302 00:18:53,840 --> 00:19:00,720 addresses reworking for an owner. Um and 303 00:18:56,799 --> 00:19:02,240 then if you on page 24 as well item 11T 304 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,440 the exe we have an executive session 305 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,799 that was on there that we no longer 306 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,080 need. We'll bring that back at a later 307 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:09,240 time. So we're going to strike that from 308 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,240 the agenda. 309 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,080 Okay, thank you. Item eight, 310 00:19:12,820 --> 00:19:15,600 [clears throat] a revocable permits and 311 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,000 events. There are none today and so 312 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:20,160 we'll recess the council and convene as 313 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,160 the Oklahoma City Municipal Facilities 314 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:26,840 Authority. We do have a resident who has 315 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,840 signed up to speak. Uh Steve Hunt, 316 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:31,440 Steve Hunt, 6300 Westbrook Drive. Good 317 00:19:29,679 --> 00:19:33,520 morning to the uh Oklahoma City 318 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:36,320 Municipal Facilities Authority. Good to 319 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:39,360 see you all today. Um I just going to be 320 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,880 brief. Uh item B, amendment five to 321 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:42,559 professional services agreement with the 322 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,720 city of Oakland City and Baker Tilly 323 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:46,400 Advisory Group for additional support 324 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:50,640 for annual comprehensive financial 325 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:54,000 report processes. Estimated cost 1.395 326 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,840 million. And if you turn to the consent 327 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,720 docket, which was originally supposed to 328 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:01,360 be for things like renewing toner uh for 329 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,280 the printer, there is a duplicate 330 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:05,280 amendment five to professional service 331 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:08,080 agreement with the Oklahoma City D Baker 332 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:12,080 Tilly. So, it looks like this uh 333 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:15,039 agreement is for $2.8 million with the 334 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:17,200 double dipping in the OCMFA and the 335 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:20,320 consent docket. And I just want to make 336 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:22,480 sure uh I understand what this is for. 337 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,320 Um, there's not a lot of information out 338 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:27,360 there, but what I saw is that a few 339 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:31,280 years ago, we signed an agreement with 340 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:34,080 nice guy Larry Ellison's Oracle software 341 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:37,440 to do some work for the city and we were 342 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:41,280 unable to get the uh city employee folks 343 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:43,280 trained properly. So, we uh reached out 344 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:46,240 to Baker Tilly and like, "You guys want 345 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:49,200 $5 million to come do this?" Um, I think 346 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,000 that's correct, isn't it, City Manager 347 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,600 Freeman? No, 348 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,679 » No. What What is it for? 349 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,280 » We don't This is not a Q&A, but I'm sure 350 00:20:53,679 --> 00:20:56,000 staff can queue out in the lobby 351 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,640 afterwards. 352 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,799 » Okay. Um, so and I also would like to 353 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,360 know why it's there and why it's also in 354 00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:05,200 the consent docket. I guess that's 355 00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:05,520 » It's a joint contract. 356 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,559 » Okay. 357 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,360 » So, it's one contract. 358 00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:11,840 » Is it two? It's not 2.8. It's okay. 359 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:13,200 » We don't have time for this. 360 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,880 » You have your minute and a half. Use it 361 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:18,240 as you wish, but we're not doing Q&A. 362 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,440 » I'm not going to waste your time. 363 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,760 » All right. That concludes residents 364 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,919 who've signed up to speak on MFA. So, we 365 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:26,919 can take items A through G now with one 366 00:21:23,919 --> 00:21:26,919 motion. 367 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,919 We have a motion and a second. Cast your 368 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:34,559 votes. 369 00:21:31,919 --> 00:21:36,159 Passes unanimously. We'll adjourn OCMFA 370 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:38,559 and convene as the Oklahoma City Public 371 00:21:36,159 --> 00:21:40,320 Property Authority. Uh we do have a 372 00:21:38,559 --> 00:21:44,440 resident who signed up to speak on items 373 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,440 I and L. Robin Jones. 374 00:21:55,360 --> 00:22:02,640 I am at this place in the agenda because 375 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:05,120 these are PPA funds that are from maps 4 376 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:08,080 for beautifification and we may be 377 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:11,360 applying for that project. And I'm also 378 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:15,840 here representing uh the West 10 and 379 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:19,520 Windsor district as our CDRP contract is 380 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:22,000 uh has started uh for FY26. 381 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:25,679 And just wanted you to know that your 382 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:28,480 funding for that um in both West 10 and 383 00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:30,960 Windsor has gone to preserving our 384 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:33,280 history which hardly anyone in the city 385 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:36,159 seems to know about. uh which is the 386 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:39,760 beginning of Oklahoma City and uh we are 387 00:22:36,159 --> 00:22:42,080 doing that in the West 10 district. Um 388 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:45,760 there's very limited public green space 389 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:48,559 and no public canvas so to speak. So we 390 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:51,360 are using the traffic boxes and uh 391 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:54,080 telling our story of the history through 392 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:57,679 your funding and uh that has helped 393 00:22:54,080 --> 00:23:00,080 create an identity that West 10 to a 394 00:22:57,679 --> 00:23:03,120 great degree didn't have prior and we 395 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:06,000 are doing multiple other things and uh 396 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:10,000 in West 10 and then in Windsor district 397 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:12,799 we are continuing to enhance uh the um 398 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,280 beautiful streetscapes that we inherited 399 00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:17,120 from previous leadership in the W 400 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,039 Windsor district, but Windsor and West 401 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:23,360 10 district has come together and been 402 00:23:19,039 --> 00:23:25,760 collectively known as West OKC. And we 403 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:28,000 host community conversations. Several of 404 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,080 you have been to these meetings and 405 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:33,919 they're on everything from homelessness 406 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:36,400 to uh civic responsibility to uh the 407 00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:38,640 children in the community and they've 408 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,039 been very successful. We had some extra 409 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,331 funding from the Arnol Family Foundation 410 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:45,120 which was of a great help. 411 00:23:43,331 --> 00:23:47,440 [clears throat] And basically this part 412 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:48,960 of town, west, central west Oklahoma 413 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,840 City, 414 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:54,400 um has a lot of challenges, but we focus 415 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:57,840 on the bright spots. And our bright 416 00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:01,919 spots are very diverse and uh very large 417 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:04,400 number. And just one example is um we 418 00:24:01,919 --> 00:24:06,240 recently almost finished, not me 419 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,720 personally, but a contractor almost 420 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:12,400 finished a 7.9 421 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:15,600 um building contract um that will house 422 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:18,000 one of our oldest companies in the 423 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,559 state. And we discovered that and then 424 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,440 the next day I'm walking on my morning 425 00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:27,200 walk and four deer run across in front 426 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:29,919 of me. So, so our area is very diverse 427 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,279 and has nothing but opportunity even 428 00:24:29,919 --> 00:24:31,679 though you have to be kind of creative 429 00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:33,039 to 430 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:33,760 » 30 seconds remaining. 431 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:34,400 » I'm done. 432 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,000 » Okay. 433 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:41,039 » Before I get hooed away. 434 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,080 » Thank you, Robin. All right. So, uh that 435 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:43,919 concludes the residents who've signed 436 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,400 her to speak on the PPA docket. We have 437 00:24:43,919 --> 00:24:49,400 items A through M we could take with one 438 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,400 motion. 439 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,320 Have a motion and a second. Cast your 440 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,799 votes. 441 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:03,200 Passes unanimously. We'll adjourn OCPA 442 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:06,480 and reconvene as the city council. We're 443 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:09,120 on item nine, the consent docket. Uh we 444 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,640 have no scheduled presentations. Is 445 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:13,039 there anything that a council member 446 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,880 wishes to pull out for separate comment 447 00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:17,120 or separate vote? 448 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:20,159 » Yes, mayor. Could we pull out item A? 449 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:21,679 » Okay. for um you want to make some 450 00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:23,279 comments or do you want a separate vote? 451 00:25:21,679 --> 00:25:25,200 » Comments. 452 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:26,640 » Um a separate vote. 453 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,240 » Okay. 454 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:33,640 » And then mayor, I have a couple of 455 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:33,640 questions on items AL through ALP. 456 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,720 » Okay. 457 00:25:37,957 --> 00:25:39,760 [clears throat] 458 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,120 » Mayor. 459 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,600 » Uhhuh. 460 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:47,919 Uh, I would just like to hear a bit of 461 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:50,919 an update on item V is in Victor, 462 00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:50,919 please. 463 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:55,400 » Okay. 464 00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:55,400 » Thank you. 465 00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:02,080 All right. We'll take them in order. Um, 466 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,960 Councilman Pennington, we do have a 467 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,799 what? 468 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,360 » Councilman Styver is going to recuse on 469 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:07,919 item A. 470 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:09,919 » Oh, okay. Very good. Um, Councilman 471 00:26:07,919 --> 00:26:11,919 Pennington, we do have uh some residents 472 00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:13,279 who signed up to speak on item A. Do you 473 00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:14,720 want to start with their comments? 474 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:16,000 » Maybe maybe we should hear from the 475 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,240 assistant city manager first, do you 476 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,720 think? 477 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,840 » Okay, sure. 478 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,679 » Jason, you want each you go ahead and 479 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,000 give us an overview of this item on this 480 00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:25,520 item? 481 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:27,083 » Item A, the record contract. 482 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,080 » Uh, sure. Good morning, mayor 483 00:26:27,083 --> 00:26:30,880 [clears throat] and council. Jason 484 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,919 Fairbrush, assistant city manager. Um 485 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:36,240 item A is as you can see is a a contract 486 00:26:33,919 --> 00:26:40,880 with Fington Towing for zone 4 record 487 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:44,113 services. Uh this item uh has been to uh 488 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,360 council previously. Um just to 489 00:26:44,113 --> 00:26:49,200 [clears throat] remind council of the 490 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:53,279 process. We issued an RFP for zone 4. We 491 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:56,799 received uh multiple proposals. Um we 492 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:58,960 had a evaluation uh committee uh 493 00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:01,440 consisting of myself, members from the 494 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,760 police department, finance department, 495 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:08,240 city clerk's office 496 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:11,840 uh conducted uh site visits um to uh the 497 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:13,760 top uh proposers and um in going through 498 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,080 the process, 499 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:19,200 reviewing the proposals, doing the site 500 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:22,240 visits, uh staff is recommending that 501 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,840 the contract be awarded to uh Fairing 502 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,440 Towing. 503 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,120 Um, 504 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,000 and so that's what you have before you 505 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:31,600 today. Um, 506 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,799 do you like me to uh, city manager, 507 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,919 would you like me to elaborate anymore 508 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,919 or just hit the 509 00:27:33,919 --> 00:27:38,080 » Yeah, I I think that's good. Here, we 510 00:27:35,919 --> 00:27:39,919 had we did have an appeal process that 511 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,159 was filed on this after it was deferred 512 00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:43,919 and we went through the appeals process. 513 00:27:42,159 --> 00:27:45,039 It goes through the purchasing agent, 514 00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:46,960 through the finance director, and 515 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:49,840 through myself. Those all been now 516 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,679 returned and resolved or addressed. Um 517 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,200 and uh so we're ready to move forward. 518 00:27:51,679 --> 00:27:57,080 Our recommendation still is to move 519 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,080 forward with this contract. 520 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,960 » Thank you. Let's let's hear from our 521 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,039 neighbors. 522 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,240 » Okay. So, we have a bunch of people 523 00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:04,480 signed up. So, what I'm going to do is 524 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,840 first remind everybody to say your name 525 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,520 and address when you come to the 526 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,279 microphone and that you have three 527 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,399 minutes or less to make your comments. 528 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:14,240 At 30 seconds, you will be um warned 529 00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:16,640 that you only have 30 seconds left by 530 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,520 the city clerk. I'll remind you that uh 531 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,039 if if the comments are redundant, I mean 532 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,200 you have every right to be redundant, 533 00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:24,640 but uh know that there is a point of 534 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,720 diminishing returns. If other people 535 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,080 have said what you've already said, uh 536 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,240 you know, you don't have to use your 537 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,559 entire three minutes. And I will 538 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,559 announce um each name and then the next 539 00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:37,120 name so the next person can maybe move 540 00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:39,600 down uh to the first row and be ready to 541 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:41,679 go. All right, we'll start with Randy 542 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:45,320 Serite and that'll be followed by 543 00:28:41,679 --> 00:28:45,320 Denovetta Davis. 544 00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:53,080 I've got some 545 00:28:58,399 --> 00:29:04,000 good morning Randy Cite Fairington 546 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,360 towing at 3307 Northeast 10th Street. 547 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,200 Some issues have been brought to our 548 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,720 attention that I would like to address. 549 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,440 The first one is the zoning of our 550 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:14,080 location. We are zoned I2 with two 551 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,480 unique puds. Oklahoma City's Development 552 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,960 Services sent out a superintendent to 553 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,679 confirm our compliance. Our zoning is 554 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,520 correct. Like many businesses, we have 555 00:29:21,679 --> 00:29:26,159 had some minor code violations that have 556 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,480 all been addressed. At the previous city 557 00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:29,919 council meeting on May 5th, we 558 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,440 discovered that we needed to be a part 559 00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:34,159 of the Garden Oaks Neighborhood 560 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,320 Association. We found the Northeast 561 00:29:34,159 --> 00:29:38,559 Oklahoma City Neighborhood Coalition 562 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,559 online, which covers the Garden 563 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:42,799 Neighborhood Community. We filled out 564 00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:45,550 the online application and mailed in our 565 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:46,960 check which was cashed June 1st. 566 00:29:45,550 --> 00:29:48,880 [clears throat] We had a meeting with 567 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,279 Bobby Thomas, the president of the 568 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:54,480 Garden Oaks Neighborhood Association on 569 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:56,559 May 18th at Fington Towing's office. 570 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,200 This meeting was an attempt to establish 571 00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:01,200 a good working relationship. We informed 572 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,440 Bobby that we had already submitted our 573 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,640 application with the Northeast Oklahoma 574 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,159 City No Neighborhood Coalition to join 575 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,559 the Garden Oaks Neighborhood 576 00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:12,399 Association. She made no mention of the 577 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:15,840 fact that the Garden Oaks neighborhood 578 00:30:12,399 --> 00:30:17,520 had their own association. July 2nd, we 579 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,840 discovered that Garden Oaks did have 580 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,159 their own association. When I spoke with 581 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,399 Bobby Thomas and requested to become a 582 00:30:22,159 --> 00:30:26,880 member, she informed me they are not 583 00:30:24,399 --> 00:30:29,760 taking new applications. We have made a 584 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,399 full faith effort to join. Fington 585 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,559 Towing has 18 acres of one of the larger 586 00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:37,919 impound yards in the state of Oklahoma. 587 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:39,679 There is one pud approximately 5.7 acres 588 00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:42,159 that requires us to be a member of the 589 00:30:39,679 --> 00:30:43,919 neighborhood association. We do not use 590 00:30:42,159 --> 00:30:45,440 any of this area for storage of 591 00:30:43,919 --> 00:30:47,679 impounded vehicles [clears throat] for 592 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,520 the city. We have made our best effort 593 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:51,600 to be fully compliant and a good 594 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,520 neighbor. Issues have been addressed and 595 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,000 it is in the public's best interest to 596 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,679 award this contract to Fington Towing to 597 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,159 minimize the current wait times for the 598 00:30:57,679 --> 00:31:01,840 constituents of this district. 599 00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:04,559 There have been some questions regarding 600 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:07,039 two companies at our current location. 601 00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:09,279 We did not buy the company for a record 602 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:12,640 service. My wife and I did buy the 603 00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:14,799 property at 3307 Northeast 10th. We have 604 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:18,000 three trucks that are branded as for a 605 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:20,799 record service. This is for OP rotation 606 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,480 purposes only. Both yards have been 607 00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:23,600 inspected and approved by 608 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,320 » 30 seconds remaining 609 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,080 » By Oklahoma State Trooper Keith Ragland. 610 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,919 There are 15 other companies in the 611 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,159 state that have the same situation with 612 00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:34,080 Department of Public Service. Our 613 00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:36,720 operating authority is based off of one 614 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:39,279 DOT number and all of our business is 615 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,399 conducted under one EIN number, Fington 616 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:44,559 Towing. We have one business. I would 617 00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:46,640 like to add that the uh previous 618 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:48,960 comments to the city council. They had 619 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,279 no issues with for a record service at 620 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,600 the location for a record service at 621 00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:56,240 that point in time did have the uh 622 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,840 district record service. So it shouldn't 623 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,559 be an increase in traffic at that point 624 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,000 in time. 625 00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:00,720 » Okay. 626 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,519 » Thank you, Mr. 627 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,200 » Thank you. 628 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:05,519 » Dennovetta Davis, who will be followed 629 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,360 by Bobby Thomas. 630 00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:10,399 » Good morning, council. Dennovetta Davis, 631 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:12,080 721 North Kellum, Oklahoma City. I am 632 00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:14,399 here representing the Northeast Oklahoma 633 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,399 City Neighborhood Coalition. Uh the 634 00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:19,600 garden uh neighborhood council is a 635 00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:22,640 member and we are an organization that 636 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,880 collaborates with 18 uh neighborhood 637 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,279 associations in northeast Oklahoma City. 638 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,840 And so Ferington did submit an 639 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:31,360 application as well as Metro Towing to 640 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,000 the Northeast Oklahoma City Neighborhood 641 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,000 Coalition. Uh we have not it's the 642 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,000 approval process and we have not 643 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,437 approved either application even though 644 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,760 the check might have been cash. It will 645 00:32:40,437 --> 00:32:43,679 [snorts] be returned if this is not 646 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,840 approved. So we just wanted to make that 647 00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:47,519 clear that they did apply. There is an 648 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,039 approval process. They have not gone 649 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:51,760 through that approval process. We plan 650 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:53,360 to do that this month and then uh if 651 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,720 it's not approved then the checks will 652 00:32:53,360 --> 00:33:00,640 be returned. But we are um it's not 653 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:03,120 personal. Um we are just in support of 654 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,279 Metro Towing because they are not close 655 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:08,240 to a neighborhood. That is our main 656 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:10,799 reason. We understand that Fington is 657 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,480 already in existence. Uh but it will 658 00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:14,000 expand. 659 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,320 They are right across the street 660 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,159 surrounded by neighbors. It will just 661 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,519 expand their services. And that's what 662 00:33:18,159 --> 00:33:21,279 we're opposed to. We know they're 663 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:24,880 already there. they're already providing 664 00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:28,559 record service, but this will greatly uh 665 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:30,480 expand their services and will um 666 00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:33,760 greatly affect the neighbors 667 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:36,960 environmentally with the you know 247 668 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,519 service with the amount of vehicles in 669 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,039 and out. So that's why we're concerned 670 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:43,279 about that for this particular 671 00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:45,919 neighborhood and we support them in 672 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:49,519 their opposition to this contract being 673 00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:51,360 awarded. Thank you so much. 674 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:55,320 Thank you, Bobby Thomas, who will be 675 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,320 followed by Bert Woodring. 676 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:02,799 » Good morning. My name is Bobby Thomas. I 677 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,640 live at 1409 North Standish Avenue. I am 678 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:07,760 a resident of Garden Neighborhood 679 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,679 Council. We're our interest is right at 680 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,000 the interest of Fington's Record 681 00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:14,320 Service. They have been there for over a 682 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,480 year. They made no effort to join our 683 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,760 neighborhood association. They made no 684 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,359 effort to fix cut their grass. And when 685 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,760 they moved in, we started getting 686 00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:25,760 complaints. Since they bought 4A record 687 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,079 service, the traffic down there at 10th 688 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,320 and Standish has been terrible. When we 689 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:33,679 try to turn into our interest, we run 690 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:37,839 into Fington. They not only impound 691 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:42,159 cars, they tow 18 wheelers. We can see 692 00:34:37,839 --> 00:34:45,440 them from the fence that they have now. 693 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:47,760 They tried to remove them, but they were 694 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,839 there. We never had a problem with for a 695 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,094 record service and the men that used to 696 00:34:49,839 --> 00:34:53,280 own for a record service, the 697 00:34:52,094 --> 00:34:56,159 [clears throat] cars there were fine. 698 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,079 But since Fington has come, we have had 699 00:34:56,159 --> 00:35:00,160 heavy, heavy traffic to the interest of 700 00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:02,880 our neighborhood. Also, I want to give 701 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:06,640 you an example. Three Saturdays ago, 702 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:09,200 Lost Lake had a 703 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:12,400 entertainment at their Lost Lake. The 704 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:14,400 traffic overflowed into Fington's and I 705 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,640 drove down there and I was a man 706 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:20,000 standing out in the street. He directed 707 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:23,040 me into Ferington's. Randy C. Right came 708 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,800 out and he told me, "Miss Thomas, if you 709 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,119 want to have if the cars are parked in 710 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,359 your driveway, I will impound them." 711 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:31,839 Well, why will you impound these cars 712 00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:35,200 and you let some traffic come on your 713 00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:36,560 property and sit there when it was a 714 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,359 traffic jam right there at our 715 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:42,000 neighborhood? And we went down about two 716 00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:44,640 Saturdays two weeks ago and we did talk 717 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,800 with parents. He has never made an 718 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,440 effort until now when he wants to 719 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,720 contract with the city for zone 4. Now 720 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,720 he wants to be a member of our 721 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:55,599 neighborhood association, but it's not 722 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:58,079 benefiting us. Not one bit. We're on the 723 00:35:55,599 --> 00:36:00,640 northeast for northeast Oklahoma City. 724 00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:02,240 Why do you want to put that there? You 725 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,680 knew when you bought for a record 726 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:06,880 service, you were right near a 727 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:09,359 neighborhood association. So I will say 728 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:13,680 we're not for far fingtons. We will go 729 00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:15,760 with metro if necessary. Thank you. 730 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:20,680 Thank you Bert Woodring who will be 731 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,680 followed by Isar Alzubi. 732 00:36:25,105 --> 00:36:28,320 [clears throat] 733 00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:30,400 » Bert Woodring 1400 South Robinson 734 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,440 Oklahoma City. I'd like to address the 735 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:36,000 issues on the two puds of this and uh 736 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,160 Mr. Cooper mentioned this before, but 737 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:41,200 I'll bring this up to a deal. The 920 738 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:44,240 spud, which was back in 2003, is 140 739 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:46,240 pages. They went through quite a lengthy 740 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:47,760 deal to even get this spud even 741 00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:50,320 approved. 742 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,480 There were 29 people that protested it. 743 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,960 It went to the council without 744 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,560 recommendation from this planning 745 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,359 commission. They never could even get it 746 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:02,400 approved. Finally, after several delays, 747 00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:06,720 the council nearly approved this 5 to 748 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:08,960 four. That was 23 years ago. Everything 749 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:10,800 has changed in the city now. There are 750 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,400 several violations that's been happened 751 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:16,240 on this spud. 90 of the spud says the 752 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,079 following conditions in section 11 753 00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:20,560 through34 shall not be changed or 754 00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:22,320 amended in any way without action of the 755 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,480 city council after review of the 756 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:28,560 planning commission. Several of those 757 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:32,800 items has been violated and nobody's 758 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:36,320 done anything about it. Now, the 1479 759 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,320 spud to the west, I looked at that deal 760 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:41,520 and back in the day when they pulled 761 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:44,560 that in 2013, 762 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,640 uh, they got a fence permit. The fence 763 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,040 permit was never completed. The 764 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,839 landscaping was never completed. They 765 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,440 never got a final on it. The gravel was 766 00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:56,320 never they said there wasn't enough 767 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,240 gravel on the land to start with, but to 768 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,640 my knowledge, I never found anything at 769 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:02,560 the city that this was even completed, 770 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,040 so they could even move on it and even 771 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,920 start working. 772 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,760 Um, furthermore, 773 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,119 they're talking about there is two 774 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:15,599 record services on that property. 3307 775 00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:18,079 Northeast 10th has 4A record service 776 00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,760 operating out of that location. They 777 00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:22,160 also have Fington Record Service 778 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,599 operating out of that location. I've 779 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:27,680 checked with the Department of Public 780 00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:29,599 Safety. Both licenses are there at that 781 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,079 address. They're working out of the same 782 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:34,400 building with separate offices in that 783 00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:36,240 building. So, there is two record 784 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,800 services. Oh, have double the business 785 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:43,040 there already. And actually, Fington's 786 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:46,640 record service is far much larger than a 787 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:49,200 4A record service. So, it is definitely 788 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,800 an issue there that they have definitely 789 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,720 done that. And by giving them a city 790 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,440 contract, they're even going to double 791 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:56,800 it even more. I've had a city contract 792 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,240 there for 15 years. 793 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,119 » 30 seconds remaining. 794 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:03,680 » And they average about 250 more calls a 795 00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:05,680 month. So, that's what's fixing to 796 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,720 happen over there if they're given this 797 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,640 permit or they're given this license. 798 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:14,960 Thank you. 799 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:18,920 » Thank you. Um, Eer Alzubi followed by 800 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,920 Joe Cro. 801 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,160 » Good morning, city council mayor, city 802 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:33,440 major. My name is Acer. I represent 803 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:36,320 Metro Towing. My address is 13415 North 804 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:38,160 Santa Fe. I I'm here to talk about uh 805 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,079 the process that we went through in this 806 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,560 project. First, we had a piece of 807 00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:44,640 property that was zoned I2, but it was 808 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,480 nearby a residential neighborhood. It 809 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,000 did not work out. So, we worked hard to 810 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,359 find another piece of property where it 811 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,359 was zoned I2 and uh everyone was 812 00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:55,520 involved in in this process was 813 00:39:53,359 --> 00:39:58,160 satisfied with the new site, the the 814 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:00,160 community. So, after we secured the 815 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,640 property, we went to the city and talked 816 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:05,119 to them. They say even if you are zoned 817 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,040 I2, it does not allow you to open your 818 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:08,880 door and put your sign up. There's a lot 819 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,839 of process you got to go through because 820 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:14,320 record service is a conditional use. So 821 00:40:11,839 --> 00:40:16,160 we went through the process. We pull a 822 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,920 building permit. You know, after you 823 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,480 pull a building permit, you got to go 824 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:23,359 through planning and zoning review. 825 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,280 After we passed that, we uh there was a 826 00:40:23,359 --> 00:40:27,680 lot of requirement from the city to meet 827 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,839 the code and we spend the money and we 828 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,640 had to pay for all the permit to the 829 00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:37,119 city. So we had a lot of visit from the 830 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:39,280 city to make to make sure that we uh in 831 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:40,960 compliance. They gave us the green 832 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,720 light. They gave us the occupancy 833 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:47,839 permit. We made sure all the requirement 834 00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:50,960 was completed because the RFP it clearly 835 00:40:47,839 --> 00:40:53,119 required the property the property to 836 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,680 comply with the city code and have all 837 00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:58,240 the necessary permit in place in order 838 00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:01,119 to qualify for the bid. staff had a 839 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:04,800 meeting about the RFP before the 840 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:07,280 deadline of the bid and they surely say 841 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:10,160 that you have to have all the permit and 842 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:13,119 all the licenses in the place before the 843 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,880 deadline of the bid. Everything we had 844 00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:17,680 done all the building permit that we had 845 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,240 done it was last year and it was 846 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,079 submitted last year in June. So the 847 00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:24,960 process has been in going for more than 848 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:27,599 a year. It has placed a significant 849 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,680 financial hardship in us as well as 850 00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:31,680 create a significant stress through the 851 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,760 process. It will be a difficult to 852 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,079 understand awarding the contract to a 853 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,960 company that did not complete those same 854 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:41,520 requirement. Today I respectfully ask 855 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:44,079 that your decision be based in fairness 856 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,920 and in in the integrity of the process. 857 00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:48,720 We follow every requirement that was 858 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,440 asked of us. We invested the time and 859 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:53,839 resources to make sure everything was 860 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,839 done correctly before moving forward. If 861 00:41:53,839 --> 00:41:58,400 one bidder is required to meet all the 862 00:41:55,839 --> 00:42:00,319 RFP requirement 30 seconds then every 863 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,800 bidder should be healed to those same 864 00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:04,960 standard. I simply ask process to be 865 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,440 applied fairly to everyone 866 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:11,280 » And uh I want to say thank you for 867 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:15,359 giving me chance to speak and thank you. 868 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:18,760 Thank you. Joe Croal, followed by uh 869 00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:18,760 Bailey McKay. 870 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,400 My name is Joe Crodell. I represent 871 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:27,280 Metro Towing and Recovery 100 North 872 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:30,000 Broadway. Um you've heard from some 873 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,319 neighbors that near live nearby the 874 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,960 Fington and 4A record service lot. 875 00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:37,760 You've heard from the owners of Metro 876 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:42,640 Towing and Recovery who was a co- bidder 877 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:45,440 on this uh city contract. Um, back when 878 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:49,200 both of these puds on the lot where 4A 879 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,800 and Fington are now, um, when those were 880 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,280 getting negotiated with the city, there 881 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:56,079 was significant issues with the 882 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:59,520 neighbors that were had to be addressed. 883 00:42:56,079 --> 00:43:01,760 And due to those issues and their very 884 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,440 close proximity to residential 885 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,079 neighborhoods, 886 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:08,960 the PUDS include some very unusual 887 00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:12,880 language and some of that is joining the 888 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:14,480 neighborhood association. Uh 4A back in 889 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:18,079 the day was a member of the neighborhood 890 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,760 association. Fington apparently did not 891 00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:24,079 know of that requirement until we 892 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:27,440 brought it up. Um, this is designed to 893 00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:30,000 keep harmony with this very noxious and 894 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:32,640 disturbing business that happens that is 895 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:36,319 a necessity in every city, but when it's 896 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:38,880 next to a neighborhood, um, proper, you 897 00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:40,400 know, balance needs to be struck. And 898 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,720 Fington 899 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,359 seemingly has did not even know of that 900 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:48,560 requirement. Um, they do not seem 901 00:43:45,359 --> 00:43:52,079 interested in um, coexisting with these 902 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:55,280 neighbors. And I think um 903 00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:59,680 part of the city's duty is to look at 904 00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:01,200 all these factors um and to see that you 905 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,079 know these puds that were put in place 906 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:08,160 that were strongly fought for or and 907 00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:10,160 against by these residents um are not 908 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,560 being adhered to the you know the 909 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:16,079 essence of these puds are not being 910 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,920 respected today. Um, I would be happy to 911 00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:21,839 answer any questions about these puds if 912 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:25,200 you have uh if you have them. Um, but 913 00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:27,599 you know, it's hard to hear from a 914 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,680 citizen that has gone through the 915 00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:31,359 process and made sure everything was 916 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:36,240 done correctly when he submitted his 917 00:44:31,359 --> 00:44:37,839 bid. Um, to then see another company get 918 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:40,000 recommended or their bid get 919 00:44:37,839 --> 00:44:41,839 recommended, that's fine. But when you 920 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,599 see that they didn't go through those 921 00:44:41,839 --> 00:44:45,680 same steps, they didn't spend the money, 922 00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:47,839 they didn't spend the time, and then 923 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,560 they get coached through the process 924 00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:53,920 after the fact after we've brought this 925 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:56,400 issues to uh your attention. It's very 926 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:59,520 frustrating and it um I share my 927 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:03,520 client's frustration and that um we just 928 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:05,920 want what's fair and we um hope that you 929 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,400 guys see that there are serious issues 930 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:11,760 with Fington's bid and their property 931 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:14,000 that they're on and that um you consider 932 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,680 that when you vote to approve or 933 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,800 disapprove and we hope that you vote to 934 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:21,440 disapprove this contract. Thank you. 935 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:24,839 » Thank you. Uh Bailey McKay followed by 936 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,839 Rita Freeny. 937 00:45:26,796 --> 00:45:28,816 [clears throat] 938 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,960 Thank you, Council Bailey McKay. On 939 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:36,400 behalf of Bad Day Towing and Recovery 940 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:39,200 Company, uh 100 North Broadway app, I 941 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,440 will not bel 942 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,680 this morning. Um, I would just reiterate 943 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,160 the objections and the reasons to 944 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,560 disapprove this contract that have 945 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,440 already been stated today and in our May 946 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:55,480 6th, 2026 letter filed with this 947 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,480 council. Thank you very much. 948 00:45:55,599 --> 00:46:01,319 » Thank you. Rita Freeny is our final 949 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,319 speaker on this item. 950 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,760 » Good morning, council. Want to say thank 951 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:10,880 you for all that you do. My name is Rita 952 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:12,400 McNeel Freeny 1313 Stat Drive and one 953 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,800 thing I can say I learned a lot about 954 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:18,560 this whole process. I am a novice about 955 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:22,160 all of this, but I have learned that 956 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:25,119 what is right is is is right. And I am 957 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:27,599 here representing the coalition 958 00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:31,040 Carverdale been in the community for 959 00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:33,280 over 50 years working in all capacities. 960 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:36,079 And this is something that will affect 961 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,440 the neighborhood on a long-term basis. 962 00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:39,680 So, we're just appealing. And I know 963 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,480 you'll be heard a lot already, but the 964 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:44,720 appeal is just to to do what is fair and 965 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,040 right for the community. It's an old 966 00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:49,920 community just like ours, Carverdale. 967 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:52,160 And we've been able to protect our 968 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,839 community. So, we want to protect on the 969 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,520 long term. There'll be a lot of 970 00:46:53,839 --> 00:46:57,440 detrimental to have a company that will 971 00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:00,800 come in the neighborhood and have even 972 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:03,599 more uh negativity. So, we're just 973 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:06,240 asking that you make a decision for the 974 00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:09,520 right company. And of course I am in 975 00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:11,599 favor for Metro and I know I have seen a 976 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,000 lot of towing companies but in this 977 00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:16,720 process I've been to each of the 978 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,680 companies. I've seen what they've done 979 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:22,319 and I have also learned a lot about the 980 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,920 integrity of Metro and the staff. So 981 00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:26,880 just asking that you make the right 982 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:31,280 decision in this concern. So I am here 983 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:33,200 to appeal and to ask that you do the 984 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,760 right thing in this case. Thank you so 985 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,240 much for your time. 986 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,359 » Thank you. Um, Councilman Paintton, I 987 00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:40,960 don't know if you have any other 988 00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:42,560 comments or if any other council members 989 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,720 do as well on this item and then we'll 990 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,240 take a vote on just this item. 991 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:48,240 » Well, I don't if my colleagues have 992 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:50,800 questions, stop me. But just just a few 993 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:53,280 things quickly. Um, one, I [music] 994 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,560 we this is a long time coming. Um, as I 995 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,119 think we've been dealing with this issue 996 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,960 for the last year. Um, and so I'm 997 00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:00,480 hopeful that we can get to a resolution, 998 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,960 but I'd like for it to be a resolution 999 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,040 that um is satisfactory to the neighbors 1000 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:07,520 and to our need to make sure we have a a 1001 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:12,720 record service that can uh service zone 1002 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:14,880 for zone 4. Um, first I want to say um I 1003 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:15,760 cannot support uh this application 1004 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,000 because [clears throat] of some of the 1005 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,160 reasons that have been stated uh here. 1006 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,800 But before I get into those reasons, I 1007 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:25,040 want to say it's I I have nothing but 1008 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,359 respect for Mr. see right in his 1009 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,599 business and their operation. I have no 1010 00:48:27,359 --> 00:48:31,760 reason to doubt or question his 1011 00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:34,400 integrity. And so I don't want any of my 1012 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,480 comments or my vote to signal a lack of 1013 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:39,119 confidence in them or their abilities. 1014 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:42,160 But I do think that this area is not 1015 00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:43,680 appropriate for us to um put the uh 1016 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,240 record service for a very simple reason. 1017 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,599 And I I think that you all know that 1018 00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:50,720 I've spent a lot of time on the planning 1019 00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:53,920 commission um and there is a line in PUD 1020 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:56,640 1479 that was pointed out um that I just 1021 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,839 think is worth noting. It says that the 1022 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:02,800 density andor intensity of the PUD shall 1023 00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:05,760 not be increased and that was done PUD 1024 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,839 1479. That is where this location is. So 1025 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,680 while the I2 use is allowed, while the 1026 00:49:07,839 --> 00:49:12,400 record service use is allowed, the 1027 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,000 intention when this was negotiated was 1028 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,400 that there not be any increase in the 1029 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:19,359 density or intensity of the use. And so 1030 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,880 to me adding an additional contract is 1031 00:49:19,359 --> 00:49:25,119 increasing the density and intensity of 1032 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,400 the use. And so I I understand that um 1033 00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:27,920 others may have a different 1034 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,920 interpretation 1035 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,760 of that because there is an existing 1036 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,000 record service there. But I think that 1037 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:36,559 that is compelling language knowing how 1038 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:39,119 difficult it can be to try to square 1039 00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:43,200 different uses being near a residential 1040 00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:45,119 um property. So, uh I I'm not putting my 1041 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,880 thumb on the scales of which record 1042 00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:48,160 service should be picked, but I do hope 1043 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,800 that as we consider [music] 1044 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:53,200 this contract and others, we'll look at 1045 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:56,160 what surrounds these properties because 1046 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:58,079 it is disruptive to have um to have a 1047 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,200 record service with lots of cars coming 1048 00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:01,200 in and out and how that affects 1049 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,040 neighbors. Um, this neighborhood has 1050 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,599 also been challenged because of Lost 1051 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,280 Lakes and which is an event venue that 1052 00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:10,000 as you already heard from Miss Thomas 1053 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:12,000 has a lot of uh tra brings a lot of 1054 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,359 traffic to the area. So, because of 1055 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,079 those reasons and in support of my 1056 00:50:13,359 --> 00:50:17,760 neighbors, I'm going to oppose this and 1057 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:19,280 um I'd ask my colleagues to really take 1058 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,079 into consideration the concerns of our 1059 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,839 neighbors. 1060 00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,960 » Councilman, can I ask you a question 1061 00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:26,160 since you were on the planning 1062 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:28,319 commission as well? How do you determine 1063 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,839 increase so that you can add that line 1064 00:50:28,319 --> 00:50:32,079 into that putt? 1065 00:50:29,839 --> 00:50:34,079 » It's it is admittedly subjective and I 1066 00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:36,960 wasn't on the planning commission when 1067 00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:38,559 um when this PUD was negotiated. So 1068 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,839 » This company though bought it from the 1069 00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:41,760 previous 1070 00:50:39,839 --> 00:50:44,079 » Wrecking company. So they've been there 1071 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,760 for a number of years. 1072 00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:48,640 » I I believe it was stated that that 1073 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,559 record company had a contract maybe with 1074 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,599 the state or with the city or something. 1075 00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:52,880 » The state. I don't know if it was with 1076 00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:53,359 the city. I'm looking to the city 1077 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,720 manager. 1078 00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:56,640 » He had said that he had a contract 1079 00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:58,720 previously had this contract. Is that 1080 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,680 correct that they did? They previously 1081 00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:00,880 had this contract at 1082 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,000 » Oh, it was the same contract with the 1083 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,480 city. 1084 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,599 » So, it won't increase then if it's a 1085 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,839 continued contract. 1086 00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:09,200 » It this isn't continuing the existing. 1087 00:51:07,839 --> 00:51:10,480 They haven't had it for a while, 1088 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,000 » But they had previous 1089 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,079 » But they have had it previously. So, 1090 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:17,680 it's still going to be within reason on 1091 00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:19,839 that aspect. How long was 4A a record 1092 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,280 service in this 1093 00:51:19,839 --> 00:51:22,480 area by the res? 1094 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,720 » 23, I think. 1095 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,880 » So, we're looking at 23 years prior to 1096 00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:28,079 this. So, the community is well versed 1097 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,839 in the fact that this is a wreck or 1098 00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:31,760 service a yard. [clears throat] 1099 00:51:29,839 --> 00:51:32,640 » And that they they acknowledge that they 1100 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,760 know that even if 1101 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,200 » I'm just trying to make sure we line 1102 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,720 things out and I and I have a clear 1103 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,839 understanding. Like you said, we've been 1104 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:40,079 going through this for a year. 1105 00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:42,079 » Yeah. We we've had to rebid, we've had 1106 00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:44,480 to redo, we've gone back and forth with 1107 00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:46,880 all sorts of different selections and we 1108 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,640 gave some pretty specific 1109 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,760 instructions to the the committee 1110 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,960 whenever we redid this RFP and what we 1111 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,640 were looking for and what we were doing 1112 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,559 and they've guaranteed us that each one 1113 00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:00,720 has been met. So, I'm also a little 1114 00:51:56,559 --> 00:52:02,559 curious as to what one s uh bid may have 1115 00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:03,839 done that another bid didn't do and some 1116 00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:05,839 of the accusations that were put in 1117 00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:09,960 that. Jason, could you help us with that 1118 00:52:05,839 --> 00:52:09,960 one? Sure. 1119 00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:15,920 Um if so the question is I think the 1120 00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:18,800 question is essentially like how did we 1121 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,200 get to award Fington perhaps over others 1122 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,599 or 1123 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,920 » Well, so Metro just accused Ferington of 1124 00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:25,839 not doing everything that they had to do 1125 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,760 in this area. So I'm just curious of 1126 00:52:25,839 --> 00:52:29,119 what what were those things that one did 1127 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,599 that another didn't do? 1128 00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:33,920 » Okay. Well, um, [clears throat] 1129 00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:37,839 so having having been involved in the 1130 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:39,920 process and having some awareness of 1131 00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:42,319 Metro's journey and Ferington's journey 1132 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,640 to this point, um, I think the clear 1133 00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:47,200 difference is that my understanding is 1134 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:49,760 Metro Towing essentially found a 1135 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:52,559 location and established their business 1136 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:55,119 at that location, right? And so there's, 1137 00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:58,720 as we know, many requirements that go 1138 00:52:55,119 --> 00:53:03,119 into starting a business at a location. 1139 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:07,359 Um so Fington on the other hand uh 1140 00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:10,880 purchased and existing and I obviously 1141 00:53:07,359 --> 00:53:14,720 don't want to speak for Fington. 1142 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:17,280 However, um uh to me it seems like it 1143 00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:20,240 would be there would be less situational 1144 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:22,400 awareness of all of the intricacies 1145 00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:23,599 associated with a putt if you buy a 1146 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,240 property, right? I mean you buy a 1147 00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:31,240 property is an existing record service. 1148 00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:31,240 Um, so, um, 1149 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,800 so I guess where I'm where I'm going 1150 00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:39,839 with that is [cough and clears throat] 1151 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:42,960 I think Metro perceives there be a lot 1152 00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:44,480 more requirements on them and perhaps so 1153 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,640 because they're establishing a new 1154 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,480 business versus Fington purchasing an 1155 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,319 existing. However, when it comes to the 1156 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,079 review committee 1157 00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:53,280 that those weren't considerations, 1158 00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:55,280 right? Right. I mean whether it's a new 1159 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,680 business or an existing business, the 1160 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,440 valuation committee simply evaluated the 1161 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:02,480 proposals based on the requirements of 1162 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,319 the RFP. The requirements are of the RFP 1163 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,319 spoke specifically to making sure they 1164 00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:08,319 had the proper zoning. So as the 1165 00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:10,000 evaluation committee met, we confirmed 1166 00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:13,920 with planning department and others that 1167 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:17,920 they had the proper zoning to operate a 1168 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:21,359 record service. And that's different in 1169 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:24,640 in my opinion from code violations. some 1170 00:54:21,359 --> 00:54:27,359 of the some of the objections or um 1171 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:29,119 protests had referenced code violations 1172 00:54:27,359 --> 00:54:31,520 and I think you know with any business 1173 00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:33,520 in the city there's the potential for 1174 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:36,640 code violations that's why we have code 1175 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:38,880 inspectors and when we identify 1176 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:41,119 businesses that are operating in good 1177 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,359 faith but yet they have some code 1178 00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:46,079 violations we give them an opportunity 1179 00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:48,000 to cure and so that's the way we handled 1180 00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:49,440 these issues or a few of these issues 1181 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,960 with Fington when they were brought to 1182 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:56,000 our attention as As the owner of Fington 1183 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:58,800 mentioned, um we had our code inspectors 1184 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,559 go to their site as part of the protest 1185 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,200 process to make sure we did our due 1186 00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:04,000 diligence. 1187 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:06,319 » Okay. So, in regards to the RFP, there 1188 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,319 is not one company who checked a box 1189 00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:10,960 that another one didn't. Everybody has 1190 00:55:08,319 --> 00:55:13,040 met the same expectations that we lined 1191 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:16,240 out in that RFP. 1192 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:19,359 Well, there were there were a few of the 1193 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:21,440 proposers that did not make the basic 1194 00:55:19,359 --> 00:55:24,559 requirements. Um, I can't remember if it 1195 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:27,359 was one or two. It was very few. Uh, the 1196 00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:30,240 majority of the proposers move moved on 1197 00:55:27,359 --> 00:55:33,280 in the process to the point where uh 1198 00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:35,040 they were scored and we did site visits. 1199 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,680 So, I guess that's maybe important thing 1200 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:40,319 for for council to know or to remind you 1201 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:43,680 is we went and visited these locations 1202 00:55:40,319 --> 00:55:46,559 to make sure they met those requirements 1203 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:49,920 that were in the RFP. And quite frankly, 1204 00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:51,520 um you know, the the top scores were 1205 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,440 very close, but that's why you have a 1206 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,440 selection committee. Ultimately, the 1207 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:59,119 committee comes to a consensus and 1208 00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:03,040 awards a contract. And it's not to say 1209 00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:05,599 through the process that only Fington 1210 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:09,839 could do it and nobody else could. The 1211 00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:11,440 process is we identify hopefully 1212 00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:14,400 multiple proposers that could provide 1213 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,839 the service and we select the one we 1214 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,280 think is going to do the best job for 1215 00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:18,720 the residents in the city. And that's 1216 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,839 where we ended up with Fington. 1217 00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:23,839 » And last question, Fington is located in 1218 00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:25,200 zone 4. 1219 00:56:23,839 --> 00:56:26,720 » Yes, they are in zone 4. 1220 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,920 » I know that was a big issue with us last 1221 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:29,359 time. So, as long as we got that one 1222 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,520 answered, too. Thank you. I appreciate 1223 00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:30,720 it. 1224 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,880 » Jason, before you sit down, how long 1225 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:34,960 does this contract run? 1226 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,200 » Uh, this contract, uh, Cle might have to 1227 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,839 help me with that. Is this a Is this two 1228 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:42,240 remaining years? Oh, I'm sorry. They're 1229 00:56:39,839 --> 00:56:42,559 2020. Yeah, April 2027. 1230 00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:45,040 » Thank you. 1231 00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:47,440 » My Thank you. 1232 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,440 Um again before you sit down would you 1233 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,200 be able to share or maybe you don't know 1234 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,280 right off the top of your head but what 1235 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:56,559 what was sort of the deciding factor 1236 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,880 that put Fington scored Fington higher 1237 00:56:56,559 --> 00:57:02,960 than other proposals? 1238 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:06,400 » Uh well you know um again um they met 1239 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:09,440 the criteria or of the RFP. 1240 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:12,640 Um so once they met the basic criteria 1241 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:14,319 then uh part of it came down to the site 1242 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,720 selection 1243 00:57:14,319 --> 00:57:18,240 um making sure that they met the 1244 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:22,000 requirements of having a [clears throat] 1245 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:25,119 secure uh location for 1246 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:27,839 uh vehicles that were um towed under the 1247 00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:30,559 city contract to be secured. Uh part of 1248 00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:32,240 that was inspecting their paperwork in 1249 00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:35,200 terms of their operators and their 1250 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:38,799 licensing, making sure um you know that 1251 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:41,040 was all available. Um and again um it's 1252 00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:43,040 not that Fington was the only one that 1253 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,440 complied with that, but at the end of 1254 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:50,079 the day um the selection committee felt 1255 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:53,359 like Fington was the best equipped 1256 00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:55,760 um to be able to provide the service. 1257 00:57:53,359 --> 00:57:59,599 Um, again, not that this was the 1258 00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:02,960 deciding factor, but um, the lot 1259 00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:06,240 Fington has is larger than the Metro 1260 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:08,880 lot. Uh, Metro was at a brand new 1261 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:11,200 location. I'm not saying they're not a 1262 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:13,920 proven business or they're not capable 1263 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:15,920 of doing the business, but um, at the 1264 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:20,160 side inspection, it was very clear that 1265 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:22,079 the business was more or less a 1266 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,920 generally speaking kind of a a startup. 1267 00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:26,000 We didn't see a lot of vehicles there, a 1268 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:28,720 lot of activity. Again, not to say that 1269 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,640 they not aren't capable of doing it, but 1270 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:33,680 we did, I think, the committee have some 1271 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:35,680 asurances that Ferington was uh 1272 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,520 established and had plenty of storage 1273 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,880 room. There are other factors, but those 1274 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,920 are a couple that come to mind. I hope 1275 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,920 that answered your question, 1276 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,920 Councilwoman. 1277 00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:50,880 Um, 1278 00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:52,240 I I mean maybe it's because I watch the 1279 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,680 Lord of the Rings, the Two Towers, and 1280 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,960 the Answer in my head where they have a 1281 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:58,079 conversation, but I would like to hear 1282 00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:00,400 from more of the council on this. Like, 1283 00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:04,160 this is complicated for me because on 1284 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:08,400 the one hand, there's neighbors who are, 1285 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:10,559 I think, rightly concerned about a 1286 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:13,839 business beside them that they do not 1287 00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:17,200 find compatible. And initially when an 1288 00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:21,359 earlier business went in there, they 1289 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:23,760 helped craft some uh parameters, right, 1290 00:59:21,359 --> 00:59:25,440 that Fington 1291 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,119 would not have known because I think I 1292 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,559 think it was to ACM's earlier point, 1293 00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:30,000 sometimes you take over something that's 1294 00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:31,599 already zoned, you don't know the 1295 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,400 backstory. 1296 00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:36,799 Um, so I understand the neighbors 1297 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:40,160 concerns. 1298 00:59:36,799 --> 00:59:45,200 Um at the exact same time though there 1299 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:48,160 is a process that ACM is describing 1300 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:51,200 that seems I don't know there is just a 1301 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:53,200 process and I worry about what happened 1302 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:56,240 and I actually really mean this equally 1303 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:59,119 like I hear the neighbors concerns 1304 00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:02,240 I am also a very processoriented person 1305 00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:06,319 a very data driven person and I worry 1306 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:08,000 what happens if we 1307 01:00:06,319 --> 01:00:10,480 look at this process and go, "Well, 1308 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,000 we're not going to adhere to it." So, I 1309 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,440 worry about the legality of that 1310 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:17,200 decision. Maybe that's something city 1311 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:18,720 manager and um Mr. Jordan can speak to. 1312 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,880 But those are those are my concerns. And 1313 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,400 I think the third concern, so of the 1314 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:26,559 neighborhood, so I hear what councelor 1315 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:31,839 Pennington is saying. Um the process is 1316 01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:34,240 very uh much on my mind. And the third, 1317 01:00:31,839 --> 01:00:37,599 and I alluded to this maybe last time, 1318 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,960 there is just something that feels 1319 01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:40,640 like I don't know that we're all being 1320 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,640 direct about what we're really wanting 1321 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,160 here. Like some of the people I feel 1322 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,240 like the neighbors are being direct. 1323 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,440 they don't like this business there. But 1324 01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:51,119 I also feel like there's business 1325 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:52,640 interests here that are happening that 1326 01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:54,400 um 1327 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:57,200 get 1328 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:59,359 there's a filter rather than saying you 1329 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:02,640 know I'm going to make a lot of money 1330 01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:04,400 right if this comes to me there's this 1331 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,319 filter well there was the PUD and then 1332 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:09,599 there was this and that and that just 1333 01:01:06,319 --> 01:01:12,559 makes it really difficult for me to sus 1334 01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:14,960 out what the right thing to do is here 1335 01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:16,480 and I just want to be that direct and 1336 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,640 blunt about this. I hear what the 1337 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,920 neighbors are saying, but I also feel 1338 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:23,680 like there are some interests who are 1339 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:26,640 using the neighbors um because it 1340 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:28,000 benefits them. I'm sorry. I just have to 1341 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,520 be that direct. That's just where I'm at 1342 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,040 now. That's just where I'm at. I just 1343 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,799 think we have to speak very truthfully 1344 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,400 about things. I hear what the neighbors 1345 01:01:32,799 --> 01:01:36,640 are saying, but I also feel like there 1346 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,720 are people who are using your voice uh 1347 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,640 to get what they want. And so, I need to 1348 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:43,760 better understand the legalities facing 1349 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:45,440 us as as a body. I'm inclined to go with 1350 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,839 councelor Pennington here because I hear 1351 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,359 the neighbors concerns, but I just don't 1352 01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:52,880 like when people aren't being direct 1353 01:01:49,359 --> 01:01:55,119 with with me 1354 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,880 » If I can real quickly. 1355 01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:58,160 » Is that okay? I'm not an attorney 1356 01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:01,200 though, so 1357 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:04,400 » I don't want to uh I think those are 1358 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:06,319 great points that you brought up. 1359 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:10,720 If I'm reading this correctly now, the 1360 01:02:06,319 --> 01:02:12,640 contract goes through April of 2027, 1361 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,160 so nine months 1362 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:17,119 Right. 1363 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:19,280 And nine months we'll know more. 1364 01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:23,359 Um, but we've been going around with 1365 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:27,119 this thing for a year. So I personally I 1366 01:02:23,359 --> 01:02:29,359 mean we made some changes to the RFP, 1367 01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:32,640 went back through the process. We've 1368 01:02:29,359 --> 01:02:35,280 done a lot of things there that um I 1369 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:40,480 thought were going to ensure the 1370 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:44,480 fairness of the decision that was made. 1371 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:47,920 So, uh, I mean, now it's a nine-month 1372 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:49,520 contract, and if it has the impacts, the 1373 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:52,240 negative impacts that we're hearing 1374 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:54,319 about, then if we know that in nine 1375 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:58,160 months, then, hey, we can always, the 1376 01:02:54,319 --> 01:03:00,000 committee can always change things. But 1377 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:02,000 to fight this for over a year and now 1378 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,799 it's down to a nine-month contract, I 1379 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,400 just go ahead and move for its approval. 1380 01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:08,799 » I'm a weigh in, too. I was on the 1381 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,160 planning commission 7 years prior to 1382 01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:12,720 being on the council. And I remember 1383 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:15,520 when the Lost Lake, is that what it's 1384 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:17,280 called? The entertainment. They came to 1385 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:20,960 the planning commission and wanted to 1386 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:22,640 expand and the neighborhood came out 1387 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,359 against it. And they're horrible 1388 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:27,039 neighbors. They I don't know, Weedfest 1389 01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:29,200 or whatever it was they had there. They 1390 01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:31,599 had cars packed all the way back out to 1391 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:34,400 I35 and music going on late in the 1392 01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:36,480 evening and and that venue wanted to 1393 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,720 expand. And it was a unanimous decision 1394 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:41,280 to not let that happen because of how 1395 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,799 negatively it impacted the neighborhood. 1396 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,039 And that's what a planning commission is 1397 01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:47,440 supposed to do, right? 1398 01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:49,440 This is a heavily industrial street. 1399 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:52,240 Right across the street from this is a 1400 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:55,280 metal recycling place. Three or four 1401 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,960 blocks further to the east is huge oil 1402 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,680 field storage tanks. You have the 1403 01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,039 Canadian River that runs through there. 1404 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,280 And the neighborhood's been there 1405 01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:05,760 forever and ever and ever. But if you 1406 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,359 can't put a industrial use in an 1407 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:10,480 industrial area. Where else do you put 1408 01:04:07,359 --> 01:04:12,480 it? You see what I'm saying? I mean, the 1409 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:16,799 And I don't I hope I never need a 1410 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:18,960 wrecker, you know? But if I do, 1411 01:04:16,799 --> 01:04:20,720 I'll call whoever's closest and can come 1412 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:24,640 get me the fastest, but I realize the 1413 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:26,799 city can't operate that way. But to 1414 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:30,559 deny an industrial use in an industrial 1415 01:04:26,799 --> 01:04:32,400 area is is not good planning because 1416 01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:33,760 where else do you put it? You know what 1417 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,119 I mean? 1418 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:39,200 So that's my two cents. 1419 01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:40,640 » I guess I'll say in conclusion, we've 1420 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,079 had to make difficult decisions on the 1421 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:45,359 commission and yeah, we were that was a 1422 01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:46,640 diff that was a challenging um case, but 1423 01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:49,760 I think it's important for us to 1424 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:51,520 remember that sometimes we get it wrong. 1425 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:54,720 Sometimes we've made decisions and we 1426 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:56,480 got it wrong and and it's up to future 1427 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,160 uh planning commissions and councils to 1428 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,599 correct sometimes the mistakes that have 1429 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,760 been made in the way that we've made 1430 01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:03,599 zoning decisions. And so I just ask you 1431 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:06,920 to keep that in mind before we as we get 1432 01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:06,920 to a vote. 1433 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,319 » Anyone else from council want to speak 1434 01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,319 before I go? 1435 01:05:10,319 --> 01:05:13,760 » I was going to add something. Oh, did 1436 01:05:12,319 --> 01:05:15,680 someone over there? 1437 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,520 » Um, so I think that you made a great 1438 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:19,599 point, Councilman Stone, in that we're 1439 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:22,240 at a nine-month contract and there's a 1440 01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:23,760 lot of politics that politics, I don't 1441 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,680 know if that's the right word. a lot of 1442 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,760 um 1443 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:30,400 a lot of business that's tied up in this 1444 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:33,599 conversation and being able to 1445 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:35,920 re-evaluate PUDS if there is um you know 1446 01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:37,680 decisions that are made and we look back 1447 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:41,520 and say hey how do we do this how do we 1448 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:46,359 fix it those are those are all great um 1449 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:46,359 observations that I think are all true 1450 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:51,599 at the same time what I hear is two 1451 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:53,839 different things we have a PUD that was 1452 01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:56,960 approved over 20 years ago a business 1453 01:05:53,839 --> 01:05:59,760 operation that's had this contract and 1454 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:02,799 this approval and this business use for 1455 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:04,799 over 20 years. And we have a new city 1456 01:06:02,799 --> 01:06:07,760 contract that's worth a whole lot of 1457 01:06:04,799 --> 01:06:09,920 money. And we've had 1458 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:13,440 protests of every decision that's been 1459 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:16,400 made over the last 12 months tied to the 1460 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:20,000 towing contract. So before this protest, 1461 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:21,760 we had a different protest. And um I 1462 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,559 think at some point we have to trust 1463 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:28,319 that there has been due diligence that 1464 01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:31,520 there has been um documentation of 1465 01:06:28,319 --> 01:06:34,160 process and we have a window of 1466 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:38,400 assessment a short window of nine months 1467 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:40,160 to see what impact would be. Um, 1468 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,760 I actually think that there's something 1469 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:44,240 that we need to consider in the future 1470 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:47,280 and I would throw this out there um for 1471 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:50,400 our city manager council um to consider 1472 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:52,720 and that is some municipalities are no 1473 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:55,119 longer using a four quadrant process but 1474 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:58,960 they actually have a call out and that 1475 01:06:55,119 --> 01:07:01,920 improves speed to the um speed to the 1476 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:04,720 officer, speed to the um the person that 1477 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:06,240 needs a road road cleared from a scene 1478 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:08,319 which is really what we're responsible 1479 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:10,559 for as a city is speed of clearing 1480 01:07:08,319 --> 01:07:13,440 roadways, safety, security of assets 1481 01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:15,599 that are secured. And if there is a way 1482 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,599 that we can approach that that improves 1483 01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:20,319 competitiveness across our businesses 1484 01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:22,880 consistently throughout the year um and 1485 01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:25,520 is amenable to our process, I think that 1486 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:27,359 that would be a really wise thing for us 1487 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:29,839 to consider so that we aren't in a 1488 01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:32,559 situation where we have a protest 1489 01:07:29,839 --> 01:07:35,440 following a protest following a protest 1490 01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:37,280 around one contract for a year or two 1491 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,520 years when it really could be 1492 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:44,200 distributed work. um because we have 1493 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:44,200 many many great companies in our area. 1494 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:50,319 » I thanks for that perspective. I'd love 1495 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,799 for us to explore that and also I hear 1496 01:07:50,319 --> 01:07:54,640 what both counselor Stone and Hinkle 1497 01:07:52,799 --> 01:07:58,079 what you're saying about the nine months 1498 01:07:54,640 --> 01:08:02,880 I think those are really those are fair. 1499 01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:05,839 Uh but I think for that reason 1500 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:07,839 um in terms of 9 months I'm I'm happy if 1501 01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:10,480 9 months from now you know if this 1502 01:08:07,839 --> 01:08:12,240 council approves this today and nine 1503 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,920 months from now we find there has not 1504 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:17,520 been an increase in the traffic 1505 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:18,799 problems. Um then my mind might change. 1506 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,880 I really actually think both of you have 1507 01:08:18,799 --> 01:08:23,199 made like a pretty reasonable like 1508 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,640 point. Um, 1509 01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:27,359 for now though, it's just going to be 1510 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,799 difficult for me because of what I'm 1511 01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:30,239 hearing from the neighbors. But I want 1512 01:08:28,799 --> 01:08:32,719 to be on record about what I said 1513 01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:35,679 earlier and let this be a note to other 1514 01:08:32,719 --> 01:08:38,400 residents. I do not appreciate when 1515 01:08:35,679 --> 01:08:41,279 people speak and double speak. Like I 1516 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:45,440 want people to speak directly about 1517 01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:46,560 things like it it really bother and I 1518 01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:48,080 honestly and I know that's happened 1519 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,759 before at this council where people have 1520 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,279 come and they they're you know speaking 1521 01:08:49,759 --> 01:08:52,400 out of one side of their mouth but 1522 01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:53,600 they're actually meaning something else. 1523 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,359 I know it's happen but there's just 1524 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,600 something about this issue that really 1525 01:08:55,359 --> 01:08:59,120 rubs me the wrong way. Like re maybe 1526 01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,359 it's the amount of time to your point 1527 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:03,040 counselor Stone that this is drawn out 1528 01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:06,159 the amount of staff time that this is 1529 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:07,839 drawn out. uh the way this has muddied 1530 01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:09,679 the process because even if Fington 1531 01:09:07,839 --> 01:09:11,440 doesn't get this what Metro is gonna get 1532 01:09:09,679 --> 01:09:12,880 it suddenly like that's not I that 1533 01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:14,640 doesn't strike me as what's going to 1534 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,000 happen even though it seems like that's 1535 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,719 what some people would hope would 1536 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:22,319 happen. So I just want to be on record 1537 01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:24,960 that while I'm supporting the neighbors 1538 01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:28,400 in this moment I have a lot of issues 1539 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:30,159 about the process and some of the other 1540 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,159 um people who were speaking in in 1541 01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:35,199 opposition here and also to the 1542 01:09:32,159 --> 01:09:38,239 neighbors. I do understand some of the 1543 01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:40,719 trepidation around 1544 01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:43,040 Fington joining your group and maybe 1545 01:09:40,719 --> 01:09:45,920 once I vote no maybe they won't want to 1546 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:48,319 hear me on this but I drove by the the 1547 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:50,239 business on the way home from my mom's 1548 01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:51,759 out in Midwest City like I like to take 1549 01:09:50,239 --> 01:09:54,480 back roads instead of interstates and I 1550 01:09:51,759 --> 01:09:56,320 took that back road and I think a 1551 01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:58,320 question I would have I still think it 1552 01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:00,239 would be nice for you all to sit down 1553 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:03,760 and actually have them join your 1554 01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:05,520 neighborhood association. I just do. Uh, 1555 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,840 you know, 1556 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:10,400 there have been more bitter divides in 1557 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:13,760 this country where people didn't think 1558 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:15,520 they could reunite. 1559 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,120 There just have been and we know that. 1560 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,640 So, I would encourage you all to do that 1561 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,239 because I think one thing I would like 1562 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:23,040 to see from when I drove over there is 1563 01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:25,840 there's some trees, some real tall trees 1564 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:27,679 that are on one side of the property and 1565 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,199 I wonder if those trees couldn't exist 1566 01:10:27,679 --> 01:10:31,520 within the neighborhood. There's like a 1567 01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:33,280 street that abuts the neighborhood. And 1568 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,040 I wonder what happens if you actually 1569 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:37,280 put some trees up to do some of the 1570 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,760 blocking. And then I think another thing 1571 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:42,800 is we're kind of known for murals these 1572 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:44,719 days. What if you all painted that fence 1573 01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,320 and it spoke to the neighborhood 1574 01:10:44,719 --> 01:10:47,760 history? You just heard Robin from 1575 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,640 Winter talk about what they're doing 1576 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:52,560 with utility boxes. 1577 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:56,080 So regardless of whether or not you all 1578 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:57,600 get this contract today or you don't, 1579 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,280 you're still going to be there. And 1580 01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:01,520 this, I think, is an opportunity to 1581 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:03,520 break some bread, do some public art 1582 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:06,080 that speaks to your willingness to be 1583 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,840 part of the area. I can't force you as 1584 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,520 the council. We can't force a private 1585 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,040 business to do that. But I think those 1586 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,320 are two things is if you're worried, if 1587 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,080 if the neighbors are worried about 1588 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:16,320 sight, what they're seeing above the 1589 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:19,040 fence, then find ways to put some 1590 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:21,600 barriers up that are aesthetically 1591 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:23,360 pleasing and provide a service in terms 1592 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,719 of shade. You've already done it on one 1593 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,560 part of the building. And then the art 1594 01:11:24,719 --> 01:11:28,400 like you just heard Robin describe. 1595 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,480 Those are some ideas. I I hope you all 1596 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,239 can do that. It's just for now I can't 1597 01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:33,760 join 1598 01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:36,080 and it has nothing to do with your 1599 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,679 business best I can tell. So it's just I 1600 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,440 have worries based from what I'm hearing 1601 01:11:37,679 --> 01:11:43,399 from the neighbors for now. So I'll see 1602 01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:45,199 you in nine months is where I'm at. 1603 01:11:43,399 --> 01:11:46,800 [snorts] 1604 01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:47,760 » I think Councilman Stone move for 1605 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,520 approval. 1606 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:52,880 » Okay. All right. Are we ready then? 1607 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:55,880 We'll take a motion to vote on just item 1608 01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,880 9A. 1609 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:17,320 There we go. We have a motion and a 1610 01:12:12,719 --> 01:12:17,320 second. Cast your votes. 1611 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:28,239 passes five to three. All right. Now we 1612 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:33,040 are back on the remainder of the consent 1613 01:12:28,239 --> 01:12:35,760 docket. Uh the next item up was uh item 1614 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:39,239 V. Councilman Cooper, you wanted to 1615 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,239 speak to that item. 1616 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:44,960 » Thank you, Mayor. 1617 01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:47,120 Yes. I just remember this being a pretty 1618 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:49,679 important item for 1619 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:52,159 residents across the city. And I just 1620 01:12:49,679 --> 01:12:54,239 wanted to hear uh where we are because 1621 01:12:52,159 --> 01:12:56,320 this is a renewal. Like to kind of uh 1622 01:12:54,239 --> 01:12:58,080 hear a little bit more about what we've 1623 01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:00,320 accomplished, 1624 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:03,760 where we're heading, and then maybe even 1625 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:06,000 outside of the update right now, maybe a 1626 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,480 presentation at a future date. 1627 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,199 » Yeah. 1628 01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:09,840 » Regarding what this service is doing and 1629 01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:12,000 um 1630 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:14,080 » Absolutely. Yeah. I you know, I don't 1631 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:16,080 have a lot of numbers with me. Um, but 1632 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,679 what I can say is that this is a renewal 1633 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:20,239 for the contract that we started last 1634 01:13:17,679 --> 01:13:22,080 year uh with Decker to do the home 1635 01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:23,840 sharing to make sure people are getting 1636 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:26,719 their license and that they're becoming 1637 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:28,239 legal in the city. Um, I do know that 1638 01:13:26,719 --> 01:13:29,600 code code enforcement has been working 1639 01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:31,520 heavily with them. I have the code 1640 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,960 enforcement superintendent here too. He 1641 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,640 can kind of address those how that 1642 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:37,520 process works and all of that. But I 1643 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:40,000 will share a little story that um Decker 1644 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:42,400 did find a home share on this one 1645 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:45,840 property in our city and it was through 1646 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:48,960 Airbnb and we contacted the owner. Uh we 1647 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:50,719 actually issued a notice a violation and 1648 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,280 the con the owner contacted and said, 1649 01:13:50,719 --> 01:13:55,199 "Hey, I don't have a home share here." 1650 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,679 And what we found out was someone else 1651 01:13:55,199 --> 01:14:00,719 had created a home share uh through 1652 01:13:57,679 --> 01:14:02,320 Airbnb to share their property. And I 1653 01:14:00,719 --> 01:14:04,239 think it was an existing owner of the 1654 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:06,640 property. they just never took it down 1655 01:14:04,239 --> 01:14:08,800 and so we were able to get that off of 1656 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:11,199 Airbnb for them. Uh so that was kind of 1657 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:13,199 a success that Deckard allowed us to be 1658 01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:15,760 a part of. But Chris, if you got do you 1659 01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:17,280 have any information about how many how 1660 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:20,679 that process works and if you want to 1661 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,679 come up and share. 1662 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:28,400 » Yes. Good morning. Thank you. Um, we use 1663 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:30,480 Deckard as a as a frontline tool in our 1664 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:33,280 toolkit to help us identify properties 1665 01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:36,320 that that no longer have licensing 1666 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:39,040 um for for proper home share in Oklahoma 1667 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:41,040 City. Um, basically that process we're 1668 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:43,120 we're alerted. They're also kind of 1669 01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:45,199 sorry to step back a little bit about 1670 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:48,480 what Deckard actually provides for the 1671 01:14:45,199 --> 01:14:50,880 city. So they they are our frontline 1672 01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:52,719 responders so to speak. So they take the 1673 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:57,040 initial calls from the complaining 1674 01:14:52,719 --> 01:14:59,760 parties of the party's too loud or it's 1675 01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:02,880 operating illegally or it's just not 1676 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:05,440 operating correctly. So they make the 1677 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:07,360 complaint to Decard. Decard reaches out 1678 01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:10,320 to the property owner that has the 1679 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:12,960 listing directly and tries to resolve 1680 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:15,040 that issue um prior to the city getting 1681 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:18,560 involved. depending on what the issue 1682 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:20,080 is. Uh we're they they basically enter a 1683 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,080 complaint for code enforcement to 1684 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:24,000 investigate. We'll go out to the 1685 01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:27,040 property, verify the existence of the 1686 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,960 listing, the rental activity, and then 1687 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:31,120 we will proceed forward with either a 1688 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,960 notice of violation or a citation for 1689 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,239 operating a home share without a 1690 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,080 license. 1691 01:15:34,239 --> 01:15:39,040 » Yeah. And I think that's good work. A 1692 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:40,960 followup is my understanding of what the 1693 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:43,040 technology 1694 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:46,560 that exists would also be able to do is 1695 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:48,000 to actually go through and look at 1696 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:51,440 properties that are presenting 1697 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:55,440 themselves as this is a home share and 1698 01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:57,840 then kind of vin diagram to see 1699 01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:59,520 who has an actual license to operate as 1700 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,960 one. Is that happening as well? 1701 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,719 » Yeah. Yes. So that's spot on, 1702 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,880 Councilman. So essentially what the 1703 01:16:02,719 --> 01:16:06,880 software does, it's it's proprietary in 1704 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:09,440 nature, but essentially what it does is 1705 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:12,640 it does a data scrape of of all listing 1706 01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:14,640 sites. So VBO, Airbnb are the two most 1707 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:17,040 common, but there's others out there as 1708 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,880 well. So what their software does is it 1709 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:21,199 goes through and it scrapes through all 1710 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:23,760 of those listing agencies and it and it 1711 01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:27,360 compares that data to water records and 1712 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:30,880 and current lensure statuses. And if 1713 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:32,960 they find an anomaly to where you you 1714 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,520 let's just for an example, you are 1715 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:38,480 operating an Airbnb and you've listed 1716 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:40,800 the property on Airbnb and that data 1717 01:16:38,480 --> 01:16:43,280 software finds that you are not licensed 1718 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:45,600 with the city. It will create a case for 1719 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:47,280 us to go out and and provide you the 1720 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,600 opportunity to come before the board of 1721 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:52,880 adjustment and receive your proper 1722 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:55,440 license for that for that activity. 1723 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,800 So, what I would request is just I mean 1724 01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:58,719 I like this is I'm not trying to pull 1725 01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,880 this out for a separate vote or anything 1726 01:16:58,719 --> 01:17:03,840 like that. I think it's great. What I 1727 01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:05,840 think my request is I'd like to know a 1728 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:08,719 how frequently is the latter happen 1729 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:10,480 happening uh because that was the 1730 01:17:08,719 --> 01:17:14,560 complaint I hear, you know, from Bell 1731 01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:17,199 Ale to you name the Wu neighborhood is 1732 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:19,920 uh operating as a home share without a 1733 01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:22,159 license, right? Um so I'd like to better 1734 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:25,040 understand what those numbers are. 1735 01:17:22,159 --> 01:17:26,320 Um B, 1736 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,880 and maybe this has already happened, but 1737 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:30,880 I'd like to know what kind of 1738 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:33,040 educational outreach is happening to 1739 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:38,000 neighborhood associations or just 1740 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:40,320 residents generally whenever uh they 1741 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:42,719 have the suspicion that an entity might 1742 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,640 be operating in such a way, 1743 01:17:42,719 --> 01:17:47,760 » Right? Is it maybe that's already 1744 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:50,880 happening? Um but I'm wondering about 1745 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:52,560 water bills. I'm wondering about uh in 1746 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:55,199 terms of, you know, putting a note in 1747 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:56,800 there. Um I'm wondering about outreach 1748 01:17:55,199 --> 01:17:58,880 to the neighborhood alliance so that 1749 01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:02,480 they could communicate to neighborhood 1750 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:05,120 associations, but this was just a I hate 1751 01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:06,480 to sound dramatic, but for a lot of 1752 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:10,239 neighborhoods, they felt like this was 1753 01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:12,960 an existential threat, the home share to 1754 01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:15,760 their neighborhoods, the the the 1755 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:17,840 community itself, right? So, I I really 1756 01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,440 would like to have not just a 1757 01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:24,800 behind-the-scenes briefing. I think that 1758 01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:26,880 the public would uh benefit from um 1759 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:30,000 knowing what work we're doing, what 1760 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:32,640 we've discovered. And again, that 1761 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:34,480 outreach to the resident singularly, but 1762 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,880 then to the neighborhood associations as 1763 01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:39,440 entities. I'm seeing 1764 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:41,520 » I'll I'll second that request. And 1765 01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:43,199 specifically I just sort of you know 1766 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,199 maybe I sort of got a little over my 1767 01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:47,360 skis with sharing about this when maybe 1768 01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:49,679 the city wasn't ready to sort of take it 1769 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:51,760 public but in you know a monthly update 1770 01:18:49,679 --> 01:18:53,199 from the city manager you know saw that 1771 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,600 oh they're up and operate you know 1772 01:18:53,199 --> 01:18:58,080 decards operating and so I shared that 1773 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:59,920 in my monthly newsletter and very 1774 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,920 quickly got a handful of responses of 1775 01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:03,040 like what should you know like I 1776 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,480 submitted all these things I'm not 1777 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:07,520 seeing any action you know in a few 1778 01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:08,719 weeks later and come to find out kind of 1779 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:11,679 like [clears throat] you know that we 1780 01:19:08,719 --> 01:19:13,440 kind probably need a plan of like how 1781 01:19:11,679 --> 01:19:15,840 we're communicating about what the 1782 01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:18,400 expectation should be of, you know, it's 1783 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:20,400 not that we can immediately go and like, 1784 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,159 you know, board up the house or 1785 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:24,560 something, right? Like, you know, that's 1786 01:19:22,159 --> 01:19:26,080 a little um extreme of, you know, an 1787 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,239 example, but like, you know, just 1788 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:30,080 helping people understand what the 1789 01:19:28,239 --> 01:19:31,760 process is, what their expectation 1790 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,600 should be based on different types of 1791 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:37,040 complaints. if it is like loud party 1792 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:38,880 versus I think this is operating as a 1793 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,800 you know short-term rental without a 1794 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,960 license. um and kind of what that 1795 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,560 process is because I and I had a long 1796 01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,560 conversation with Kelly Williams where 1797 01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,560 she sort of walked me through that you 1798 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,239 know some of it some of the like delay 1799 01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,480 that people were experiencing in that 1800 01:19:50,239 --> 01:19:54,480 initial you know a few months ago maybe 1801 01:19:52,480 --> 01:19:57,440 it was the end of last year was you know 1802 01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:59,199 that there was a flood of request you 1803 01:19:57,440 --> 01:20:02,080 know submissions and it was like whoa 1804 01:19:59,199 --> 01:20:04,560 we've got to process three 400 1805 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:06,640 submissions in you know um and so that 1806 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,719 that there was that but then also I 1807 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:10,480 think there was sort of a a disconnect 1808 01:20:08,719 --> 01:20:12,159 and sort of the expectations of what the 1809 01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:14,320 software should do and how quickly 1810 01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:15,920 people should be able to get see a 1811 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:18,560 response. And so I think it'd be helpful 1812 01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:21,520 to have that presentation during council 1813 01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:24,239 so that it can be public. And you know, 1814 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:26,000 one of the folks that has been in 1815 01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:28,640 contact with me about this does operate 1816 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:31,040 short-term rentals and is I think trying 1817 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:33,520 to do it, you know, as compliant with 1818 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:35,520 the city as possible. And so, you know, 1819 01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,960 I also worry about some of those folks 1820 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,719 that are trying to do it the quote 1821 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:41,280 unquote right way, the way that we would 1822 01:20:38,719 --> 01:20:43,199 like them to do and be in compliance and 1823 01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,719 that it feels sort of like, you know, 1824 01:20:43,199 --> 01:20:46,560 other people are getting away with stuff 1825 01:20:44,719 --> 01:20:48,400 when we are supposed we're paying a lot 1826 01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:50,480 of money for the software. And so, I 1827 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:53,360 think it I I would just sort of uplift 1828 01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:55,120 that request um given that there's been 1829 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:58,239 just a lot of confusion, I think. And 1830 01:20:55,120 --> 01:21:00,000 again, I take take my part of that of 1831 01:20:58,239 --> 01:21:01,600 whoops, maybe I I shared a little too 1832 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,480 quickly when when maybe we weren't ready 1833 01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:06,560 to kind of publicly roll it out to to 1834 01:21:04,480 --> 01:21:10,239 not to avoid, you know, 400 whatever 1835 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:11,840 requests in a matter of days. Um, but I 1836 01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:14,159 think that does demonstrate that there 1837 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:16,800 is a lot of pentup energy um and 1838 01:21:14,159 --> 01:21:18,480 frustration around this issue and um and 1839 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,719 the better we can be like proactive and 1840 01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:23,520 and really clear about what people 1841 01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:24,960 should expect would be really helpful. 1842 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,960 » Absolutely. We we would be more than 1843 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:29,440 happy to do that. I'll work with Kelly 1844 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,800 in office of innovation and we'll get 1845 01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:31,199 something together and we'll bring it to 1846 01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,480 council. 1847 01:21:31,199 --> 01:21:33,840 » Yeah, I think we'll try to start with a 1848 01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:35,040 briefing to the council. You know, get 1849 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,320 the information together, start with a 1850 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,080 briefing of the council and then discuss 1851 01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,520 some options of how we can best 1852 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,000 communicate this out to reach the most 1853 01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,159 people. 1854 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:44,560 » Can we add to that list? I think it's 1855 01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:47,600 also time for us to look at the board of 1856 01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:51,040 adjustments um decision-m with regard to 1857 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:53,360 non-compliant properties. So, how are 1858 01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:55,600 are they authorized to take any punitive 1859 01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:57,840 actions against non-compliant 1860 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:59,520 properties? Can people correct it? What 1861 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:01,440 does that process look like? Because I 1862 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:04,880 think they're pretty inundated with 1863 01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:06,480 cases right now of people who are not 1864 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,000 performing the way they should be. And 1865 01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:09,280 so, I think it's an opportunity for the 1866 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,040 planning department perhaps to make some 1867 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,800 additional recommendations. Last year, 1868 01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:14,560 we we made some changes to short-term 1869 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,960 rental that I think were improvements. 1870 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:18,400 Maybe it's time to re-evaluate um those 1871 01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:21,440 changes to make sure they're aligned 1872 01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:23,040 with our current goals. So, it's a big 1873 01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:23,440 list of short-term rental stuff. City 1874 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,199 manager, 1875 01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:26,560 » We'll add plenty at that as well. 1876 01:22:25,199 --> 01:22:28,159 » If you have nothing else to do on a 1877 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,159 Thursday afternoon, watch a board of 1878 01:22:28,159 --> 01:22:32,320 adjustments meeting. There's like 30 1879 01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:34,719 cases per meeting on people trying to 1880 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:38,719 get right with the Airbnb permitting 1881 01:22:34,719 --> 01:22:41,040 issues. and they do a good job of of 1882 01:22:38,719 --> 01:22:43,440 penalizing them is not the right word, 1883 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:45,760 but if they're blatantly 1884 01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:48,480 ignoring the rules, then they are paying 1885 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:52,080 a a time penalty. They don't get their 1886 01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:54,159 license for six more months or or or so. 1887 01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:56,400 The board of adjustments is inundated 1888 01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:59,800 with people trying to get right with 1889 01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,800 this new ordinance. 1890 01:23:00,639 --> 01:23:04,440 » Thank you. Appreciate it. 1891 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:13,760 Okay, next up in the batting order was 1892 01:23:10,719 --> 01:23:17,600 Councilman Stone. You wanted to inquire 1893 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:20,320 about items AL through AP. 1894 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:23,120 Thank you, Mayor. Uh, you know, I just I 1895 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:25,520 saw this come up and I really had some 1896 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:27,920 questions. I want to start off by saying 1897 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:30,639 first off, I appreciate what these 1898 01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:33,679 groups do. I think they do great work. 1899 01:23:30,639 --> 01:23:36,719 I'm not questioning that at all. 1900 01:23:33,679 --> 01:23:38,719 What I noticed is there's like out of 1901 01:23:36,719 --> 01:23:40,639 all these lists of different 1902 01:23:38,719 --> 01:23:43,120 organizations that we're providing money 1903 01:23:40,639 --> 01:23:44,719 to to help with their district, uh there 1904 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:47,440 wasn't anything southside. So, I was 1905 01:23:44,719 --> 01:23:50,320 hoping someone could explain to us which 1906 01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:53,840 Southside districts and are are they 1907 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:55,600 given considerable amounts? 1908 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,600 Donna, Donna is with our planning 1909 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,280 department to manage is it as many of 1910 01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,719 her other duties helps to manage the 1911 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,000 community development revitalization 1912 01:24:00,719 --> 01:24:02,639 program and I'll let her give us an 1913 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,560 update. 1914 01:24:02,639 --> 01:24:06,080 » Thank you, Donna Cervantes. It's 1915 01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:08,639 commercial district revitalization 1916 01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:10,639 program in the planning department and 1917 01:24:08,639 --> 01:24:12,320 thank you for the opportunity. This is 1918 01:24:10,639 --> 01:24:15,120 um there's a new process this year, 1919 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:18,480 you'll be happy to know. And um as you 1920 01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:21,440 know, we have 10 districts that are 1921 01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:23,600 receiving uh general funds through our 1922 01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:27,199 CDRP program. and there's an annual 1923 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:30,400 renewal. So, we've ended FY26. They will 1924 01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:33,199 be coming in um kind of a rolling basis 1925 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:37,120 as they prepare all their documentation. 1926 01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:41,120 Um today you have five of our CDRP 1927 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:45,199 contracts up for renewal. Um this year 1928 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:47,920 we've been um blessed with 1929 01:24:45,199 --> 01:24:50,800 beautifification funds through MAPS 4. 1930 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:55,520 Um this is the new beautifification 1931 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:59,199 funding. Uh Route 66 is a named uh kind 1932 01:24:55,520 --> 01:25:01,840 of program that will is able to receive 1933 01:24:59,199 --> 01:25:04,560 the beautifification funds and several 1934 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:08,560 of our districts were also named as 1935 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:11,920 recipients as well. So to help manage 1936 01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:13,440 the funds through that beautifification 1937 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:16,960 program, 1938 01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:19,440 um we we found u an area to focus on 1939 01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:22,880 through Route 66. This being the 1940 01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:26,480 centennial, the Route 66 Centennial 1941 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:29,360 Commission has gifted many locations 1942 01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:32,880 across the state and Oklahoma City is 1943 01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:36,639 receiving four large monument signs that 1944 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:39,120 are in the shape of the Route 66 emblem 1945 01:25:36,639 --> 01:25:41,760 and they are customized to represent the 1946 01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:45,040 districts that will be receiving them 1947 01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:47,600 and that was done with district input. 1948 01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:50,000 Um the signs are quite large. are 1949 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:52,639 basically 6x6 and they sit on a large 1950 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:54,159 concrete base. So while the signs were 1951 01:25:52,639 --> 01:25:56,800 gifted, 1952 01:25:54,159 --> 01:25:59,040 the installation fees were not. So 1953 01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:02,560 there's installation and permitting and 1954 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:06,320 all that would go into that. Um so uh 1955 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:10,719 our recommendation is to use the maps 1956 01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:13,120 for funding which has is now under your 1957 01:26:10,719 --> 01:26:17,199 OCPA 1958 01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:20,960 to include in the district contracts so 1959 01:26:17,199 --> 01:26:22,480 that they can pay to install these 1960 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,960 signs. 1961 01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:28,000 Um the four districts that are receiving 1962 01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:31,360 the signs are 39th Street, Asian 1963 01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:33,280 District, Britain District, and Western 1964 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:35,760 Avenue Association. 1965 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:39,040 Western Avenue Association 1966 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:41,280 um is under is is a business improvement 1967 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:44,880 district. So they do not receive the 1968 01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:47,199 same CDRP contract, but they are managed 1969 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:49,440 in our department and they will be 1970 01:26:47,199 --> 01:26:52,960 receiving a sign as well. 1971 01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:56,800 Um, we've allocated $15,000 1972 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:59,040 per sign for this installation. So, 1973 01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:01,840 that's a known 1974 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:04,239 project that needed funding. 1975 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:06,800 For those that we knew were ready to 1976 01:27:04,239 --> 01:27:10,000 receive the funds, it's been added into 1977 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:11,840 their FY27 contract 1978 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,840 so this can proceed. We're trying to get 1979 01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:17,600 this done within the Centennial as soon 1980 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:19,440 as possible. Um 1981 01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:23,440 what we've included in the other 1982 01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:26,400 district contracts is kind of a 1983 01:27:23,440 --> 01:27:29,199 placeholder additional PPA funds if you 1984 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:32,320 will so that PPA becomes party to their 1985 01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:34,719 annual contract and at such time as the 1986 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:38,080 district will come in with a proposal 1987 01:27:34,719 --> 01:27:42,159 for another beautifification effort 1988 01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:44,560 perhaps it's some installation art 1989 01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:46,560 improvements perhaps it's maintenance 1990 01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:50,000 that been deferred that needs to be 1991 01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:53,280 managed. These kind these funds can be 1992 01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:55,840 approved through um a staff process and 1993 01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:58,880 we would come back with an amendment to 1994 01:27:55,840 --> 01:28:02,800 their CDRP contract 1995 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:04,960 at that time to approve the project. So, 1996 01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:07,520 in order to create that placeholder, all 1997 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:11,040 of your CDIP contracts this year you'll 1998 01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:13,679 see have PPA as a party and it's either 1999 01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:16,560 the placeholder of $100 knowing that 2000 01:28:13,679 --> 01:28:20,000 they'll come back for more at such time 2001 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:23,120 as they might have a project 2002 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:25,760 or the four districts, actually three 2003 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:29,840 CDRP that have a known project right 2004 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:34,480 now. they need their 15,000 for that 2005 01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:36,239 um sign installation. So, 2006 01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:38,000 I hope that's helps. These are the 10 2007 01:28:36,239 --> 01:28:42,239 districts that have been in the program 2008 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:45,120 for a number of years. Um 2009 01:28:42,239 --> 01:28:47,360 as uh Councilman Stone well knows, um 2010 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:51,280 our southside districts are Capitol 2011 01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:54,800 Hill, but they're a bid. Um Stockyard 2012 01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:58,560 City again is a bid. So you won't see 2013 01:28:54,800 --> 01:29:01,360 Southwest 29th is um also our southside 2014 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:04,719 district and they too will be receiving 2015 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:06,880 the um opportunity to apply for the 2016 01:29:04,719 --> 01:29:07,360 additional beautifification funds. So 2017 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,800 » Good. 2018 01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,400 » I hope that helps explain it. 2019 01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,440 » It does. Thank you very much. I 2020 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,000 appreciate it. 2021 01:29:11,440 --> 01:29:15,159 » Thank you. 2022 01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,159 » Thank you. 2023 01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:21,440 » Okay. 2024 01:29:19,679 --> 01:29:23,120 I think now all we have remaining are 2025 01:29:21,440 --> 01:29:25,840 citizens who signed up to speak on 2026 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:28,880 different items on the consent docket. 2027 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:30,400 Um we have three who signed up on item 2028 01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:34,600 BX 2029 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:34,600 and we'll start with Steve Hunt 2030 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:48,000 6300 West Drive. Thanks again for the 2031 01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:50,080 opportunity to uh speak. This particular 2032 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:52,880 item is something that I hope we can 2033 01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:56,400 have quite a bit of discussion on. Um, 2034 01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:58,880 in 2009, I came up here to speak on some 2035 01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:01,199 log rolling issues regarding maps 3 and 2036 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:03,360 then started getting into the 2037 01:30:01,199 --> 01:30:05,120 unaccountable private uh Oklahoma City 2038 01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:05,760 Chamber of Commerce. And here's what 2039 01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,280 transpired. 2040 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,719 » Chamber of Commerce who gets $5 million 2041 01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,280 from Oklahoma City citizens. And I 2042 01:30:08,719 --> 01:30:10,400 thought maybe 2043 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,760 » Chamber of Commerce doesn't get $5 2044 01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,760 million from Oklahoma City. 2045 01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,960 » That's Jim Couch saying it's not true. 2046 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,320 » Yes, they do. No, they don't. 2047 01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,639 » I've got the documents to prove it. It 2048 01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:20,239 comes from the hotel tax. From the hotel 2049 01:30:18,639 --> 01:30:22,000 tax for the CVV. 2050 01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:23,679 » Yeah, 2051 01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:26,320 » There's a pause and then I 2052 01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:28,560 » There's contract with the CV. 2053 01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:31,840 » So, this was 2009 and it was an 2054 01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:34,239 embarrassment to the horseshoe that we 2055 01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:36,960 were giving $5 million to the completely 2056 01:30:34,239 --> 01:30:39,360 unaccountable chamber of commerce. Um, 2057 01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:42,320 and today they're asking for that number 2058 01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:44,480 to be quadrupled. Uh they're asking for 2059 01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:46,480 $19 million from Oklahoma City taxpayers 2060 01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:49,199 via the hotel motel tax which they ran 2061 01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:53,840 the campaign for the election which was 2062 01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:55,840 held outside of primary season. I don't 2063 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:57,840 think that was very smart but um the 2064 01:30:55,840 --> 01:31:02,239 breakdown of their contract is 2065 01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:04,320 interesting because uh $3.751 2066 01:31:02,239 --> 01:31:06,639 million of this contract goes to 2067 01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:09,679 executive salaries. I think you all know 2068 01:31:06,639 --> 01:31:12,400 that Christy Gillanwater makes $620,000 2069 01:31:09,679 --> 01:31:14,400 a year. All the while, we have a temp 2070 01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:16,400 agency bringing in day laborers to work 2071 01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:18,320 in wastewater because I guess we don't 2072 01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:20,159 want to hire full-time folks to do that 2073 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:23,920 and it's not wastewater whatever. It's 2074 01:31:20,159 --> 01:31:25,760 not cool and vibrant. But also, um, on 2075 01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:27,840 top of the 3.7 million that we're asked 2076 01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:30,400 to give them for executive salaries of 2077 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:33,360 this, there's a this is crazy. this 2078 01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:35,760 there's a $390,000 2079 01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:38,400 administration fee direct to the Chamber 2080 01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:40,960 of Commerce for the trouble of receiving 2081 01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:44,159 this money. I mean, how the hell does 2082 01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:47,199 3.75 million in salaries not cover 2083 01:31:44,159 --> 01:31:49,440 administrating that money? Um, I have a 2084 01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:51,040 lot of concerns about it. Um, chamber 2085 01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:52,320 obviously very unaccountable. I went in 2086 01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,679 there yesterday to ask if they could 2087 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,600 clarify and they called security and 2088 01:31:53,679 --> 01:31:56,960 then they called the cops. I reached out 2089 01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:59,199 to one of my officer friends and they 2090 01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:01,040 just laughed about it. Um, so they came 2091 01:31:59,199 --> 01:32:02,960 and and I'll I'll put a video up on it 2092 01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,320 for the people out there in channel 20 2093 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:07,520 land watching on YouTube that want to 2094 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:09,199 see it. But one of the big concerns I 2095 01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:13,480 have 2096 01:32:09,199 --> 01:32:13,480 uh is the uh 2097 01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:20,320 the quality of work that they produce. 2098 01:32:16,639 --> 01:32:21,280 If you go to visit OKC and go to search 2099 01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,800 » 30 seconds remaining 2100 01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:25,760 » Type in the word vibrant you will come 2101 01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:28,080 up with 375 2102 01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:29,920 results. Elevate your event with the 2103 01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,840 vibrant energy of Oklahoma City Thunder 2104 01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:33,920 Britain District. Elevate your uh 2105 01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:36,880 neighborhood with vibrant murals, 2106 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:38,960 LGBTQowned businesses. Support OKC's 2107 01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:41,040 LGBTQ owned businesses and welcoming 2108 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:42,400 vibrant bars. I my gay friends would 2109 01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,400 never want to be called vibrant. They're 2110 01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:47,280 much more fabulous than that. Um and it 2111 01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:48,960 goes on and on and on and it just shows 2112 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:52,480 that they're just dialing it in and not 2113 01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:55,360 even trying and taking $19 million. 2114 01:32:52,480 --> 01:32:57,280 I mean, we gave 80 million to the Omni 2115 01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,480 and taxes that come from that go to 2116 01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,040 these guys. 2117 01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:00,960 » Thank you. 2118 01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,719 » We can't do this. Uh I would prefer 2119 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:04,320 flight agency get this. They would do it 2120 01:33:02,719 --> 01:33:05,040 for half and they wouldn't take an admin 2121 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:08,840 fee. 2122 01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:08,840 » All right. Mari Williams. 2123 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,920 » Good morning. My name is Mari Williams. 2124 01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:25,679 I've lived in the OKC Metro for my 2125 01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:29,199 entire life and I currently reside in 2126 01:33:25,679 --> 01:33:31,040 Ward 5. $19 million is a lot of money. 2127 01:33:29,199 --> 01:33:32,800 On the Greater Oklahoma City Chamber of 2128 01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:35,120 Commerce website under their what we do 2129 01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:36,719 page, they state the education and 2130 01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,480 workforce development team promotes 2131 01:33:36,719 --> 01:33:40,320 higher education and a highquality 2132 01:33:38,480 --> 01:33:42,480 workforce and OKC through a variety of 2133 01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:44,320 programs. They list key legislative 2134 01:33:42,480 --> 01:33:45,760 issues they work on such as fundamental 2135 01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:47,360 education reform and increased 2136 01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:49,920 curriculum standards and graduation 2137 01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:51,920 requirements, but with no elaboration. 2138 01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:53,920 Of course, Oklahoma needs education 2139 01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:55,679 reform. We all know this. But how would 2140 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,440 increasing graduation requirements and 2141 01:33:55,679 --> 01:33:58,960 overpacking curriculums help our 2142 01:33:57,440 --> 01:34:01,199 students with the current resources that 2143 01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:03,040 our schools have? Some of our middle and 2144 01:34:01,199 --> 01:34:05,360 elementary school children in our city 2145 01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:08,960 are testing as low as 10 and 12 2146 01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:10,400 proficiency in med in math and reading. 2147 01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:12,080 Why are we not funding these schools 2148 01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,920 directly more so that we're not cramming 2149 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,760 45 kids into classrooms where our 2150 01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:17,679 overworked and underpaid teachers don't 2151 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:19,120 have the physical resources or time to 2152 01:34:17,679 --> 01:34:21,520 help all of their students understand 2153 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:22,960 the curriculum? The chamber also of 2154 01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:24,639 course puts a huge emphasis on 2155 01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:27,920 attracting new businesses to our city 2156 01:34:24,639 --> 01:34:29,679 and tourism. But I'd like to ask why is 2157 01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:31,280 making our city a better place for the 2158 01:34:29,679 --> 01:34:33,280 people that live here not a bigger 2159 01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:35,440 priority? I personally have been doing 2160 01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:38,000 outreach with unhoused people in OKC for 2161 01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:39,520 almost almost every week for a year now. 2162 01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,120 And I've met so many incredible people 2163 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:43,120 who would love to be an accepted member 2164 01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:45,040 of this community again. People who have 2165 01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:46,719 had awful life experiences that led them 2166 01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,000 to where they are. And people who have 2167 01:34:46,719 --> 01:34:50,239 been set up with nothing from the 2168 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:52,400 beginning. I know a man named David who 2169 01:34:50,239 --> 01:34:55,360 has been homeless since he was 16 six 2170 01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:57,199 years old. He's in his 50s now. Another 2171 01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,960 man whose wife passed suddenly when he 2172 01:34:57,199 --> 01:35:01,360 wasn't able to quickly recover from the 2173 01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:03,280 grief. He lost his job. then the house 2174 01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:05,520 they shared, then their dog, then his 2175 01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:07,120 vehicle. A young woman let go during 2176 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,639 COVID who subsequently lost her 2177 01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:10,960 apartment and has been on the streets 2178 01:35:08,639 --> 01:35:12,719 ever since. I also know a couple named 2179 01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:14,080 April and Shane who have been trying to 2180 01:35:12,719 --> 01:35:16,560 get housing and employment while 2181 01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,920 sleeping in a tent. But this past Friday 2182 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:19,440 night, something terrible happened to 2183 01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:21,199 them. In the middle of the night, two 2184 01:35:19,440 --> 01:35:22,400 cars were driving past the medium where 2185 01:35:21,199 --> 01:35:24,800 their tent was, where they were 2186 01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:26,719 sleeping. A car collided into a truck 2187 01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:29,280 which jumped over a median and ran over 2188 01:35:26,719 --> 01:35:30,880 their tent, crushing April and Shane. I 2189 01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:32,719 spoke to their neighbor who described 2190 01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:35,040 April's screams while under the truck as 2191 01:35:32,719 --> 01:35:36,719 gut-wrenching. I have photos of the skid 2192 01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:38,320 marks on the curb and the spot where 2193 01:35:36,719 --> 01:35:40,480 their tent and all they owned used to 2194 01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:42,880 be. Now April is in a wheelchair from 2195 01:35:40,480 --> 01:35:45,120 her injuries. So I would like to ask the 2196 01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:46,639 council, would it not be of economic 2197 01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:48,320 interest to actually help people like 2198 01:35:46,639 --> 01:35:50,560 this get back on their feet and have the 2199 01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:53,120 opportunity to reintegrate into our city 2200 01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:55,520 and be off of the streets? Would it not 2201 01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:57,199 be a bit benefit tourism if our most 2202 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,639 vulnerable people had helped and weren't 2203 01:35:57,199 --> 01:36:00,639 left to do what they had to do to 2204 01:35:58,639 --> 01:36:02,239 survive? Would it not be in the city's 2205 01:36:00,639 --> 01:36:04,000 best interest to start getting unhoused 2206 01:36:02,239 --> 01:36:05,840 people into housing programs now before 2207 01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:07,760 we have the Olympics being hosted on our 2208 01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,920 river right next to downtown and running 2209 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:11,840 through South OKC? I'll end by saying 2210 01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:13,440 that I know that our city having a 2211 01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:16,239 chamber of commerce is absolutely 2212 01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:18,159 necessary, but an almost 400% budget 2213 01:36:16,239 --> 01:36:19,679 increase from 2009 when the majority of 2214 01:36:18,159 --> 01:36:21,520 our hardworking people are living 2215 01:36:19,679 --> 01:36:26,199 paycheck paycheck to paycheck is 2216 01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:26,199 deplorable. Thank you for your time. 2217 01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:31,480 » Thank you. Uh, Jessica Scott, 2218 01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:43,920 » 317, Delmare Rodell City. I'm here to 2219 01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:48,239 ask why $19 million giveaway is on the 2220 01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:50,239 consent docket. $19 million of taxpayer 2221 01:36:48,239 --> 01:36:52,639 money is just thrown in the consent 2222 01:36:50,239 --> 01:36:54,239 docket like some small insignificant 2223 01:36:52,639 --> 01:36:56,560 afterthought. 2224 01:36:54,239 --> 01:36:59,119 Is it because we wanted to hide this 2225 01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:02,239 exchange of money in to the Chamber of 2226 01:36:59,119 --> 01:37:05,440 Commerce, or is it because $19 million 2227 01:37:02,239 --> 01:37:08,560 of taxpayer money is unimportant to the 2228 01:37:05,440 --> 01:37:10,239 council? I don't come here often, but I 2229 01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:13,119 see these giveaways to the Chamber of 2230 01:37:10,239 --> 01:37:16,400 Commerce pretty frequently. Executive 2231 01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:18,880 bonuses, fees to process bonuses, or 2232 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:21,520 whatever charge people come up with for 2233 01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:24,239 the month. And time and time again, it 2234 01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:26,719 just seems to get passed without pause 2235 01:37:24,239 --> 01:37:30,000 for concern, without any push back or 2236 01:37:26,719 --> 01:37:33,040 questioning of the countless absurd and 2237 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:35,280 unnecessary charges. The people of this 2238 01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:38,159 city, who are working two jobs to make 2239 01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:40,880 ends meet, would like to know how giving 2240 01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:44,320 the Chamber of Commerce $19 million more 2241 01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:48,239 dollars of their tax money will help 2242 01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:51,600 improve their lives, or will it not? Is 2243 01:37:48,239 --> 01:37:54,400 that why it's in the consent docket? So, 2244 01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:56,560 I'm asking you to vote no on this, 2245 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:59,040 asking you to stop hiding these in the 2246 01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:01,440 consent docket and informing you that 2247 01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:05,199 Oklahoma City residents are becoming 2248 01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:07,119 aware of this. And also, you know, just 2249 01:38:05,199 --> 01:38:10,639 to add on to what Steve was saying 2250 01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:13,440 earlier, um you know, as Oklahoma City 2251 01:38:10,639 --> 01:38:17,360 Council, it's your job to 2252 01:38:13,440 --> 01:38:21,119 uh be careful with the taxpayer money um 2253 01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:25,600 that you're in charge of. And allowing 2254 01:38:21,119 --> 01:38:27,440 allowing charges to process a bonus is 2255 01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,280 insane. 2256 01:38:27,440 --> 01:38:32,080 It's just like it's not fiscally 2257 01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:35,600 responsible. it's not 2258 01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:38,400 being careful with taxpayer money um to 2259 01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:42,000 not only give them these huge amounts of 2260 01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:45,520 money, but then they charge 2261 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:47,520 they charge this city to take the money 2262 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:50,560 and I've never seen anything like that 2263 01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:52,880 before and so um I hope that you would 2264 01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:57,800 consider take into consideration these 2265 01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:57,800 things before doing this. Thank you. 2266 01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:01,920 » Thank you. And the final uh item that a 2267 01:39:00,480 --> 01:39:08,840 resident has signed up to speak 2268 01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:08,840 regarding is item DN and Steve Hunt. 2269 01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:19,600 This is just a quick statement on this 2270 01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:21,040 item in this uh contract renewal to ADG 2271 01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:24,639 BLAT. First, I'd like to say I'm 2272 01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:28,560 grateful that we're using a local firm 2273 01:39:24,639 --> 01:39:31,520 uh for administration uh of maps 4. I 2274 01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:36,320 spoke recently about the administration 2275 01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:39,280 of the arena uh contract being a CIA 2276 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:42,080 icon which has an office in Colorado, 2277 01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:44,400 but their ownership is in France. uh 2278 01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:46,080 Artemis. Uh 2279 01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:48,239 I mentioned that the the guy that owns 2280 01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:50,480 it's married to Selma Mahayek, which is 2281 01:39:48,239 --> 01:39:53,760 he's living pretty good and we're 2282 01:39:50,480 --> 01:39:57,840 helping. Um so I I noticed that this is 2283 01:39:53,760 --> 01:40:01,040 the seventh uh iteration. Um the 2284 01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:04,000 original contact was contract was 1.475. 2285 01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:08,000 The second was 1.199. 2286 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:10,400 The third was 2.463 million. The third 2287 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:12,960 uh the next one was 1.562 million. The 2288 01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:16,639 next was 2.6 784 million. The next was 2289 01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:18,400 2.193 million. And then the next one was 2290 01:40:16,639 --> 01:40:22,600 2.924 2291 01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:22,600 million for a total of 14,61,761.98. 2292 01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:31,360 So just kind of wanted to get that out 2293 01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:33,600 there. Um people are wondering where 2294 01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:37,040 what's up with these contracts. 2295 01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:39,679 um you know the 390,000 on the uh 2296 01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:42,239 Chamber of Capitalism's contract is 2297 01:40:39,679 --> 01:40:43,760 actually 2% of the total and I had 2298 01:40:42,239 --> 01:40:47,199 mentioned that the French private equity 2299 01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:50,800 firm was charging 2% of the total arena 2300 01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:53,199 costs and you know the uh the dude with 2301 01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:55,440 the long hair came up and talked about 2302 01:40:53,199 --> 01:40:57,920 how it was for additional things and I 2303 01:40:55,440 --> 01:41:00,159 said it was for keeping up with the 2% 2304 01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:03,600 charge of the overall arena and it turns 2305 01:41:00,159 --> 01:41:05,119 out after study both are group. So, put 2306 01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:07,119 those extra things in and then charged 2307 01:41:05,119 --> 01:41:08,560 an extra 2%. So, I just want to get that 2308 01:41:07,119 --> 01:41:11,119 out there that we're paying this. Again, 2309 01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:12,960 thanks for giving it to a local firm. I 2310 01:41:11,119 --> 01:41:15,119 don't know if 14 million is is a lot of 2311 01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:17,440 money if we need to be more efficient, 2312 01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:20,000 but yeah, thanks and great discussion so 2313 01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:23,520 far. It's been a good day. 2314 01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:25,119 » That concludes um everything we've uh 2315 01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,880 got in front of us for the consent 2316 01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:28,960 docket and now we could take up all of 2317 01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:33,199 the remaining items except for item A, 2318 01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:33,199 which was previously approved. 2319 01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:39,639 We have a motion and a second. Cast your 2320 01:41:36,639 --> 01:41:39,639 votes. 2321 01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:54,320 Passes unanimously. Uh, next up is item 2322 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:57,600 10, the concurrence docket. And we can 2323 01:41:54,320 --> 01:42:00,600 take items A through double A with one 2324 01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:00,600 motion. 2325 01:42:04,159 --> 01:42:08,760 Have a motion and a second. Cast your 2326 01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:08,760 votes. 2327 01:42:12,719 --> 01:42:18,480 Passes unanimously. 2328 01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:20,159 Uh item 11 A is well item 11 are items 2329 01:42:18,480 --> 01:42:21,760 for individual consideration. And item 2330 01:42:20,159 --> 01:42:23,520 11 A is an ordinance on final hearing. 2331 01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:26,719 It was recommended for approval 2332 01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:30,000 reszoning 4912 North Bartell Road from 2333 01:42:26,719 --> 01:42:31,360 double A to RA A2. Councilman 2334 01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:33,760 Pennington, no one has signed up to 2335 01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:36,000 speak. Thank you, mayor. This is just a 2336 01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:38,560 um simple application to add some more 2337 01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:43,480 residential um housing on Barto Road, 2338 01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:43,480 and I happily move approval. 2339 01:42:45,119 --> 01:42:47,119 All 2340 01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:54,040 right, we have a motion and a second. 2341 01:42:50,639 --> 01:42:54,040 Cast your votes. 2342 01:42:56,239 --> 01:43:01,360 Passes unanimously. Okay. Items B, C, D, 2343 01:42:59,440 --> 01:43:03,920 and E were all previously deferred, 2344 01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:05,280 which brings us to item F. Uh, an 2345 01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:07,760 ordinance on final hearing that was 2346 01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:11,760 recommended for approval reszoning 2331 2347 01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:13,440 Northwest 18th from R2 to SPD 1798. 2348 01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:14,080 Councilwoman Hammond, no one is sent to 2349 01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:16,080 speak. 2350 01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:18,080 » Thank you. Yes, this is an application. 2351 01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:19,679 Originally, I believe it was for a 2352 01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,600 little bit higher density, but after 2353 01:43:19,679 --> 01:43:24,080 some meetings with the neighborhood, um 2354 01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:26,960 the applicant has amended it to be just 2355 01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:29,119 two single family residences, um and I 2356 01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:31,679 think they were able to come to a happy 2357 01:43:29,119 --> 01:43:34,679 um compromise. So, I will move for 2358 01:43:31,679 --> 01:43:34,679 approval. 2359 01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:45,600 Have a motion, a second. Cast your 2360 01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:45,600 votes. 2361 01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:51,520 passes unanimously. 2362 01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:52,560 Item 11 G is an ordinance on final 2363 01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:54,880 hearing that was recommended for 2364 01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:58,800 approval reszoning 501 Northwest 30th 2365 01:43:54,880 --> 01:44:02,159 from R2 to SPD1823. 2366 01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:04,880 Councilman Cooper has stepped out. We'll 2367 01:44:02,159 --> 01:44:06,800 come back. Um, 2368 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:09,520 item H is an ordinance on final hearing 2369 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:14,000 recommended for approval resoning 14301 2370 01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:18,679 South Rockwell from DA to SPD 1824. Uh, 2371 01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:18,679 Councilwoman Avers is no one to speak. 2372 01:44:22,239 --> 01:44:25,239 » Okay, 2373 01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:36,040 we have a motion and a second. cast your 2374 01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,040 votes. 2375 01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:40,960 Passes unanimously. Item I is an 2376 01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:43,520 ordinance on final hearing recommended 2377 01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:47,040 for approval resounding 111 Northwest 14 2378 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:49,040 from C4 NHL to SPD1828 2379 01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:50,560 NHL. Councilwoman Hammond, no assigned 2380 01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:53,360 to speak. 2381 01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:55,520 » Yes. Can the applicant please um just 2382 01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:59,520 come give us a little bit of a overview 2383 01:44:55,520 --> 01:45:00,239 of this project and um kind of the I 2384 01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,080 know it's been [clears throat] through a 2385 01:45:00,239 --> 01:45:04,320 lot of process with various commissions. 2386 01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,920 So just like a little description. 2387 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,760 » Absolutely. Jessica Boy with Johnson and 2388 01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:09,520 Associates representing the applicant. 2389 01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:12,320 The application before you today is for 2390 01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:14,639 a multif family development. Uh so this 2391 01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:17,280 block is very interesting. There are no 2392 01:45:14,639 --> 01:45:19,040 residential homes on this block. Um so 2393 01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:21,040 what we are looking to do is to 2394 01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:23,600 redevelop it, redevelop it, add this 2395 01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:25,920 building. Um, architecturally it will be 2396 01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:30,719 in line with the uh surrounding 2397 01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:32,480 structures and we are uh currently it is 2398 01:45:30,719 --> 01:45:34,400 most of it's vacant and a lot of this is 2399 01:45:32,480 --> 01:45:36,000 zoned C4 which is very interesting. 2400 01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:38,800 That's a very high that's our highest 2401 01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:41,360 density commercial use in Oklahoma City 2402 01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:44,080 and it's also a zoning district that has 2403 01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:47,440 not been is not approved um today at 2404 01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:49,760 all. So what we are looking to do is to 2405 01:45:47,440 --> 01:45:52,880 redevelop the site. Um, we have a day 2406 01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:55,440 spa immediately adjacent to us and uh 2407 01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:57,040 the HP and planning commission both 2408 01:45:55,440 --> 01:46:00,080 recommended approval. 2409 01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:03,320 » Thank you. Um, yes, I'm happy to move 2410 01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:03,320 for approval. 2411 01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:12,920 » All right, we have a motion in a second. 2412 01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:12,920 Cast your votes. 2413 01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,920 » Thank you. 2414 01:46:14,159 --> 01:46:19,199 » Passes unanimously. Now we'll go back to 2415 01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:23,280 item G. Councilman Cooper, this was uh 2416 01:46:19,199 --> 01:46:25,119 reszoning 501 Northwest 30th from R2 to 2417 01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:26,639 SPD1823. 2418 01:46:25,119 --> 01:46:28,719 No one has signed up to speak. 2419 01:46:26,639 --> 01:46:32,159 » Thank you, Mayor. Um, would the 2420 01:46:28,719 --> 01:46:34,159 applicant mind 2421 01:46:32,159 --> 01:46:36,080 visiting with us and describing this 2422 01:46:34,159 --> 01:46:39,040 project and then I'm going to have a 2423 01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:42,400 couple questions and comments. 2424 01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:44,239 » Sure. David Box, 525 Northwest 11th 2425 01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:47,679 Street here on behalf of the applicant. 2426 01:46:44,239 --> 01:46:51,040 Um this is a small multif family project 2427 01:46:47,679 --> 01:46:53,360 at 30th and Walker. Uh it's a 2428 01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:54,960 three-story. We limited the uses of 2429 01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:57,040 planning commission as well as the the 2430 01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:59,760 total number of dwelling units. Uh there 2431 01:46:57,040 --> 01:47:01,520 was discussion about uh the seventh 2432 01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:04,239 dwelling unit and so that seventh 2433 01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:07,119 dwelling unit is limited to uh a certain 2434 01:47:04,239 --> 01:47:08,639 use unit and that being ground floor. So 2435 01:47:07,119 --> 01:47:11,040 uh we believe it to be compatible with 2436 01:47:08,639 --> 01:47:13,920 the area. It is the same developer that 2437 01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:16,080 is developing the apartments at the what 2438 01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:19,040 would be the southwest corner of 30th 2439 01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:21,199 and Hudson. Um it's in an area obviously 2440 01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:24,000 with the PO and the commercial exists to 2441 01:47:21,199 --> 01:47:25,760 the east and to the southeast uh that we 2442 01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:27,600 believe density to be appropriate not 2443 01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:29,199 just because of what the area represents 2444 01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:32,679 but also it is fully in line with the 2445 01:47:29,199 --> 01:47:32,679 comprehensive plan. 2446 01:47:33,440 --> 01:47:41,679 » Thank you. Would you mind uh going back 2447 01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:43,600 to Yes. this image right here. Um 2448 01:47:41,679 --> 01:47:45,119 and this there are going to be a series 2449 01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:48,320 of questions. This might be a good time 2450 01:47:45,119 --> 01:47:50,719 for public works director uh Miller to 2451 01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:52,400 join us because I council, you might 2452 01:47:50,719 --> 01:47:55,600 recall there's a streetscape that's 2453 01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:57,280 under construction in this area. And uh 2454 01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:59,040 I'd like to hear a little bit first 2455 01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:01,280 about that streetscape and then I'd like 2456 01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:04,000 to hear about 2457 01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:06,719 where should council approve this item 2458 01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:09,040 today. What is its next step? Where 2459 01:48:06,719 --> 01:48:11,360 would it go from there? 2460 01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:13,760 » At Debbie Miller, public works director. 2461 01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:15,760 Um the Walker Streetscape is under 2462 01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:18,800 construction. It goes from Northwest 2463 01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:20,800 23rd up to 32nd. Um we're putting in 2464 01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:23,920 sidewalks and lighting on both sides and 2465 01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:26,159 a couple of rain gardens um as a trial. 2466 01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:29,280 So that is under construction and this 2467 01:48:26,159 --> 01:48:32,239 is within the area that we are doing the 2468 01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:34,639 streetscape. So what we would do is we 2469 01:48:32,239 --> 01:48:37,760 would just resurface up to where their 2470 01:48:34,639 --> 01:48:39,119 parking starts. I mean there are some 2471 01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,560 questions that we'll need to work out 2472 01:48:39,119 --> 01:48:43,440 with them or some issues with the 2473 01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:45,679 parking on how many spaces and the angle 2474 01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:47,760 and the distance out. And then also 2475 01:48:45,679 --> 01:48:50,000 there may be an issue with the sidewalk. 2476 01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:52,719 We may need an easement for that to be a 2477 01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:54,800 public access sidewalk. 2478 01:48:52,719 --> 01:48:56,960 And then is it is my understanding 2479 01:48:54,800 --> 01:49:00,719 correct that 2480 01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:03,520 should council approve this proposal, 2481 01:49:00,719 --> 01:49:06,239 the next step would be a visit for the 2482 01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:07,600 applicant to our city's traffic 2483 01:49:06,239 --> 01:49:08,960 commission. 2484 01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:11,920 » Yes, they would have to take it to 2485 01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:14,000 traffic commission for angle parking and 2486 01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:17,520 for the ADA space. 2487 01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:20,000 » Okay. Thank you. So, 2488 01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:25,360 let me preface 2489 01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:27,600 my uh remarks by saying that um density, 2490 01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:31,520 especially gentle density, is something 2491 01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:34,159 that I uh advocate. I'm excited uh when 2492 01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:39,520 I see it. I think this location makes a 2493 01:49:34,159 --> 01:49:43,119 lot of sense for it. Uh my concern 2494 01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:46,080 are about three-fold. One is process. 2495 01:49:43,119 --> 01:49:48,560 It's confusing to me. 2496 01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:52,239 This item would appear 2497 01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:56,080 at planning, then city council, then 2498 01:49:52,239 --> 01:49:59,440 traffic commission. In my mind, 2499 01:49:56,080 --> 01:50:02,400 because this proposal is putting forth, 2500 01:49:59,440 --> 01:50:03,920 here's where parking is going to go. Um, 2501 01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:05,760 I really feel like that should have been 2502 01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:09,199 worked out at the planning commission 2503 01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:12,000 maybe level or after planning go to 2504 01:50:09,199 --> 01:50:14,320 traffic commission before it comes to 2505 01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:17,280 city council. And so I'm just very 2506 01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:18,880 confused why that is the process would 2507 01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:19,760 be my first question. 2508 01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:21,840 » I can answer that. 2509 01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:24,320 » Go ahead. We can't get approval for 2510 01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:26,480 parking as part of the project without 2511 01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:27,679 entitlements to go build the project 2512 01:50:26,480 --> 01:50:29,199 because if we don't get approved to 2513 01:50:27,679 --> 01:50:31,360 build the project to city council 2514 01:50:29,199 --> 01:50:32,960 through an ordinance on a zoning case, 2515 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:36,880 we don't want to independently build 2516 01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:38,560 parking for nothing along Walker. 2517 01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:40,560 This is the the way the process works 2518 01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:43,040 every single time. What you see in this 2519 01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:45,360 image is simply we're we're forecasting 2520 01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:48,320 what we'd like to see on Walker. The 2521 01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:50,800 bold black line is the outline of the 2522 01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:52,960 property. The legal description is just 2523 01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:54,880 that. Nothing about the approval here 2524 01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:57,040 does anything as it relates to the 2525 01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:58,560 parking along Walker. That will be a 2526 01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:00,080 wholly separate discussion at the 2527 01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:02,800 traffic commission. But in terms of 2528 01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:05,920 process, you would never go forward and 2529 01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:07,440 get parking approved for a project that 2530 01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:11,480 isn't a real project because it's not 2531 01:51:07,440 --> 01:51:11,480 approved to the city council. 2532 01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:16,000 » I hear what you're saying. I don't know 2533 01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:16,560 if city manager would like to speak to 2534 01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,080 that as well. 2535 01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:19,840 » Well, I I would agree. I think I think 2536 01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:22,080 the issue would be if the project isn't 2537 01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:23,520 here that I mean, you could go to the 2538 01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,880 planning commission to get parking, but 2539 01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,719 there wouldn't be a purpose for it at 2540 01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:28,639 that time. And so, I think I think it's 2541 01:51:26,719 --> 01:51:30,719 just it's the order that I understand it 2542 01:51:28,639 --> 01:51:32,880 creates a confusion here of like what 2543 01:51:30,719 --> 01:51:34,480 happens if you don't get this parking, 2544 01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,679 right? Do you approve this first and 2545 01:51:34,480 --> 01:51:37,199 then that parking doesn't happen? Do 2546 01:51:35,679 --> 01:51:38,320 they have sufficient parking to meet the 2547 01:51:37,199 --> 01:51:40,960 requirements? 2548 01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:43,760 » Right. And here are my concerns about 2549 01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:47,679 and again I think Matthew is doing 2550 01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:50,400 really smart work in terms of infill and 2551 01:51:47,679 --> 01:51:52,719 uh increasing the density where it's 2552 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:54,719 appropriate. I think this area is an 2553 01:51:52,719 --> 01:51:57,679 appropriate area for that entity. I 2554 01:51:54,719 --> 01:51:58,960 think my concerns and it I do hear what 2555 01:51:57,679 --> 01:52:01,920 both of you are saying about the process 2556 01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:06,320 but now here at the council level I have 2557 01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:09,360 to decide whether or not to approve this 2558 01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:12,000 uh when there are a couple factors. So, 2559 01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:15,119 one, um, 2560 01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:19,679 the streetscape, right, is trying to 2561 01:52:15,119 --> 01:52:22,719 make this street safer for pedestrians, 2562 01:52:19,679 --> 01:52:26,320 vehicles, and people riding a bike, 2563 01:52:22,719 --> 01:52:28,639 right? And so, I'm worried that this 2564 01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:30,320 sort of parking, this angled parking 2565 01:52:28,639 --> 01:52:32,960 across from where you have the parking 2566 01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:35,280 on the east side of the street, 2567 01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:37,599 I'm worried about the safety for someone 2568 01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:40,719 on a bicycle. 2569 01:52:37,599 --> 01:52:42,880 And I know this council has had some 2570 01:52:40,719 --> 01:52:45,040 discussions, we'll call them, about 2571 01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:47,119 bicycles and where they are appropriate 2572 01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:48,880 on which streets, but if they're not 2573 01:52:47,119 --> 01:52:50,320 appropriate on Walker between 2574 01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:52,080 neighborhoods and I don't even know what 2575 01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:54,719 we're doing anymore. [laughter] 2576 01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:59,199 Um, this is my neighborhood. I bike here 2577 01:52:54,719 --> 01:53:03,199 all the time. All the time. Um, so it's 2578 01:52:59,199 --> 01:53:06,480 just kind of difficult to um, you know, 2579 01:53:03,199 --> 01:53:08,400 just sign off on this project right now 2580 01:53:06,480 --> 01:53:12,400 when in my mind there should have been a 2581 01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:15,280 conversation prior to this council about 2582 01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:16,960 where parking should go here, 2583 01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:19,280 particularly as it relates again to 2584 01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:20,800 someone on a bike 2585 01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:23,199 who's not just doing this for 2586 01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:25,760 recreation. Like I live in this area. I 2587 01:53:23,199 --> 01:53:29,679 biked here today. I live in this area 2588 01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:32,960 because of the bike biking possibilities 2589 01:53:29,679 --> 01:53:35,760 to get to work or to school, right? It's 2590 01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:37,840 not just, you know, a recreation thing. 2591 01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:40,960 Secondly, you know, on the right night 2592 01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:42,880 of the week, parking in this area, if 2593 01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:45,280 you have a bunch of cars that are parked 2594 01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:48,880 at that intersection on the east side or 2595 01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:50,480 the west side, I worry about congestion. 2596 01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:52,400 I'm just saying that there are some 2597 01:53:50,480 --> 01:53:55,520 concerns here. The additional thing I 2598 01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:57,360 would say and bike safety, car safety, 2599 01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:58,480 uh or rather people in cars more 2600 01:53:57,360 --> 01:54:01,440 concerned about their safety than the 2601 01:53:58,480 --> 01:54:03,040 car itself. Uh the other thing that I'm 2602 01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:04,960 you know concerned with is with the 2603 01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:08,719 streetscape. The whole purpose of this 2604 01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:10,800 streetscape is to make this area uh more 2605 01:54:08,719 --> 01:54:13,440 pedestrian friendly. If I'm 2606 01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:15,280 understanding this right, 2607 01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:18,000 to accomplish what you all are wanting 2608 01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:20,000 to do with the 60deree angled parking, 2609 01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:24,880 we would have to reduce the sidewalk 2610 01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:26,960 from what is to be 6 ft to 5T. And it, 2611 01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:30,080 you know, I when possible, I'd like to 2612 01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:33,520 see the wider possibility, especially on 2613 01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:35,040 a street called Walker, [laughter] 2614 01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,960 right? If if there was ever going to be 2615 01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:41,920 a street where pedestrian and walking 2616 01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:44,880 are important. Um, so again, I think I 2617 01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:48,320 think Matthew's doing great work. I just 2618 01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:52,080 and I would have preferred there had 2619 01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:55,599 been some way for this to um have been 2620 01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:58,239 worked out before it got to this body. 2621 01:54:55,599 --> 01:55:00,639 » Um, because it all ultimately matters. 2622 01:54:58,239 --> 01:55:02,400 The the literal uh proposal that 2623 01:55:00,639 --> 01:55:04,639 Councilwoman Hammond just had in front 2624 01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:06,000 of her, you all saw. My preference would 2625 01:55:04,639 --> 01:55:08,000 be no parking on the street. Let me just 2626 01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:09,199 say that. maximalist. Like that is my 2627 01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,800 position here. There should be no 2628 01:55:09,199 --> 01:55:15,280 parking on the street. And I keep 2629 01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:17,360 hearing people say uh we can't do away 2630 01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:19,599 with parking in these sorts of places. 2631 01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:22,639 Maybe the day will come where people 2632 01:55:19,599 --> 01:55:25,360 won't drive a car, but that day is not 2633 01:55:22,639 --> 01:55:27,599 today. Well, not with that attitude, 2634 01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:29,760 right? Like we have to start building 2635 01:55:27,599 --> 01:55:31,840 for the city that we want. And we are 2636 01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:34,639 sending council members from this body 2637 01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:36,719 to Salt Lake City to go research their 2638 01:55:34,639 --> 01:55:38,400 transit system so that we can have a 2639 01:55:36,719 --> 01:55:41,760 better connected system by public 2640 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:44,000 transit, whatever your options are, 2641 01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:46,960 bike, car, 2642 01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:50,639 etc. Um, and so, you know, adding 2643 01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:51,920 parking here on the street just sort of 2644 01:55:50,639 --> 01:55:53,520 worries me where in the previous 2645 01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:55,840 proposal you saw that the parking was 2646 01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:57,199 behind the building. And so I don't 2647 01:55:55,840 --> 01:56:00,320 understand why that's not happening 2648 01:55:57,199 --> 01:56:02,480 here. Uh maybe my only option is to 2649 01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:04,480 voice all of this so that when it goes 2650 01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:06,800 to the traffic commission, my 2651 01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:08,639 commissioner and that body are aware of 2652 01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:10,400 these concerns, but you know, I've 2653 01:56:08,639 --> 01:56:12,480 already spoken to him and one of his 2654 01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:14,080 concerns is the order of the process 2655 01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:15,599 here and that this is not the first time 2656 01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:17,599 that something like this has happened. 2657 01:56:15,599 --> 01:56:21,280 So this is not just my concern. 2658 01:56:17,599 --> 01:56:23,280 » So we do have parking on site. We're 2659 01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:26,960 we're getting hung up on the parking 2660 01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:29,840 that is nothing about the vote today 2661 01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:32,480 touches in any sort of way the parking 2662 01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:35,679 on Walker. It is outside of the legal 2663 01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:38,239 description. It is not part of the SPUD. 2664 01:56:35,679 --> 01:56:39,920 It's simply showing that, you know, if 2665 01:56:38,239 --> 01:56:43,040 we're going to have retail that is 2666 01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:45,199 successful, we think some element of 2667 01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:47,679 parking in a manner that's safe with 2668 01:56:45,199 --> 01:56:50,239 pedestrian, safe with bicycles, safe 2669 01:56:47,679 --> 01:56:52,400 with vehicular would be appropriate. 2670 01:56:50,239 --> 01:56:54,400 similar to what is existing to the east 2671 01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:55,840 of us and to the southeast of us. All of 2672 01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:57,679 those commercial businesses have 2673 01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:59,199 parking. But whatever it looks like 2674 01:56:57,679 --> 01:57:00,480 through your public works director, 2675 01:56:59,199 --> 01:57:02,800 through your traffic and transportation 2676 01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:04,480 commission, whatever they say the rules 2677 01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:07,679 are is what we'll have to follow. But 2678 01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:11,280 absolutely nothing about this touches or 2679 01:57:07,679 --> 01:57:13,360 dictates the parking if it were to occur 2680 01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:16,159 along Walker. The question before you 2681 01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:18,159 is, is a multif family development that 2682 01:57:16,159 --> 01:57:21,599 is consistent with the comprehensive 2683 01:57:18,159 --> 01:57:23,119 plan appropriate on this site? 2684 01:57:21,599 --> 01:57:26,480 » I hear that and you and I talked about 2685 01:57:23,119 --> 01:57:31,119 that yesterday. My 2686 01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:35,840 my note of caution here is that this 2687 01:57:31,119 --> 01:57:37,760 rendering puts forth a parking plan. But 2688 01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:40,320 I hear what you're saying, David, but it 2689 01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:42,560 puts forth a parking plan. It says this 2690 01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:45,679 is how we will meet the demand of the 2691 01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:48,400 residents who not just shop here but 2692 01:57:45,679 --> 01:57:50,400 live here, right? You have four on-site 2693 01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:52,560 parking like on your private property 2694 01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:56,639 and then you have these on the street. 2695 01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:59,920 So clearly this proposal is relying on 2696 01:57:56,639 --> 01:58:01,920 the on street parking to help meet the 2697 01:57:59,920 --> 01:58:04,080 needs of the people who live there. 2698 01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:06,320 » We think it would make it a successful 2699 01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:10,400 um at least the retail component of it. 2700 01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:11,760 So this is spud number 1,823. 2701 01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:13,199 The reason that there's a conceptual 2702 01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:17,599 site plan is because the ordinance 2703 01:58:13,199 --> 01:58:20,880 requires it. If you looked at all 1,822 2704 01:58:17,599 --> 01:58:22,480 SPUDs, my guess is almost all of them 2705 01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:24,880 have site plans that once fully 2706 01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:26,800 developed weren't perfectly consistent 2707 01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:28,480 with the site plan that was approved as 2708 01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:31,119 part of it. The ordinance specifically 2709 01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:32,800 calls it a conceptual site plan. So yes, 2710 01:58:31,119 --> 01:58:34,159 this is what we'd like to do, but of 2711 01:58:32,800 --> 01:58:36,159 course it's subject to perhaps your 2712 01:58:34,159 --> 01:58:37,679 public works and perhaps perhaps the 2713 01:58:36,159 --> 01:58:39,520 traffic commission say no, we don't like 2714 01:58:37,679 --> 01:58:42,080 it. Here's what the rules need to be and 2715 01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:43,679 we'll work within the confines of that. 2716 01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:46,320 » And the only thing I would add too, 2717 01:58:43,679 --> 01:58:48,080 Councilman, is once we go to traffic 2718 01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:49,760 commission, that item will come to the 2719 01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:52,159 council and the council also has the 2720 01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:54,480 authority to make a decision that's 2721 01:58:52,159 --> 01:58:56,239 contrary to the planning comm I mean the 2722 01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:58,080 traffic commission. if the traffic 2723 01:58:56,239 --> 01:59:00,000 commission approved it in a way that the 2724 01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:03,960 council didn't agree, you know, the 2725 01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:03,960 whole council didn't agree with. 2726 01:59:04,239 --> 01:59:08,239 » See, I didn't even that that step like 2727 01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:10,159 so that's another step. So, I didn't 2728 01:59:08,239 --> 01:59:13,920 even know that that was, you know, part 2729 01:59:10,159 --> 01:59:17,920 of it. I just there's Okay, that's fine. 2730 01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:21,599 uh fine enough. But I would encourage uh 2731 01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:23,040 the city manager's office to if if again 2732 01:59:21,599 --> 01:59:24,320 if it's not just my concern, if my 2733 01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,920 traffic commissioner is having this 2734 01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:27,360 concern, if my planning commissioner is 2735 01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:29,280 having this concern, and both of them 2736 01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:30,880 are, then I just think that that's worth 2737 01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:34,159 rethinking 2738 01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:37,360 the process, like I don't like having to 2739 01:59:34,159 --> 01:59:40,480 negotiate parking up here for a zoning 2740 01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:42,560 case. Um and I would challenge any 2741 01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:44,639 developer going forward applicant and I 2742 01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:47,040 hear what you're saying David like when 2743 01:59:44,639 --> 01:59:50,800 we are doing infill missing middle 2744 01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:54,320 housing in the urban core in W 2. It is 2745 01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:56,960 really worth our time to rethink 2746 01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:58,960 the parking location. I biked here this 2747 01:59:56,960 --> 02:00:02,560 morning from just a couple blocks away 2748 01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:04,320 from this proposal to the BRT on 31st in 2749 02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:06,800 class and it took me 4 minutes to do 2750 02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:09,599 that. It was no time at all. hopped on 2751 02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:11,440 the BRT, got to city hall. They were 2752 02:00:09,599 --> 02:00:13,199 even making fun of me because I got here 2753 02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:16,239 before the council meeting started that 2754 02:00:13,199 --> 02:00:18,560 way. It was better than me driving. So, 2755 02:00:16,239 --> 02:00:20,080 I'm just saying like it's we've got to 2756 02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:22,880 rethink 2757 02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:25,520 how we are positioning parking and the 2758 02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:27,280 applicant in W 6 just did. So, that's 2759 02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:29,520 just a challenge that I would put forth 2760 02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:31,760 to anyone watching thinking about infill 2761 02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:33,840 and missing middle development. And then 2762 02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:35,840 Craig, city manager, to your point about 2763 02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:38,239 this coming back to council, part of my 2764 02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:39,599 concern is if the traffic commission 2765 02:00:38,239 --> 02:00:41,440 comes back and they're like, "Well, this 2766 02:00:39,599 --> 02:00:42,880 is fine." And then this council's like, 2767 02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:45,440 "Well, the traffic commission said this 2768 02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:47,760 is fine." But 2769 02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:50,000 I live in this neighborhood and I was 2770 02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:52,239 literally just looking at notes from the 2771 02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:55,440 losing campaign and my two winning 2772 02:00:52,239 --> 02:00:58,719 campaigns. And I am telling you, Walker, 2773 02:00:55,440 --> 02:01:01,440 when I knock doors, the concern is about 2774 02:00:58,719 --> 02:01:03,679 pedestrian safety. people with 2775 02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:04,719 strollers. And I don't know, this is no 2776 02:01:03,679 --> 02:01:08,239 shade to the rest of the council 2777 02:01:04,719 --> 02:01:11,520 members, but I know this area. I know it 2778 02:01:08,239 --> 02:01:13,280 like my DNA. And I worry that people 2779 02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:15,679 might go, "Well, the traffic commission 2780 02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:17,199 and Rob's my commissioners already 2781 02:01:15,679 --> 02:01:18,480 thinking the way I am." But maybe the 2782 02:01:17,199 --> 02:01:20,800 other commissioners don't because they 2783 02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:23,199 don't live in and represent some of the 2784 02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:24,560 most densely populated parts of town. 2785 02:01:23,199 --> 02:01:28,239 And they might think, "Yeah, well, when 2786 02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:30,320 I go someplace, I drive." And I'm just 2787 02:01:28,239 --> 02:01:32,480 that's my worry is that there are just 2788 02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:35,760 limits on what I can do in terms of 2789 02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:38,719 representation of this part of town when 2790 02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:41,760 people are asking me to count I think of 2791 02:01:38,719 --> 02:01:44,320 Councilwoman Avers I would never I'm not 2792 02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:45,679 again I'm not for like street widenings 2793 02:01:44,320 --> 02:01:47,520 that's not something I love but that is 2794 02:01:45,679 --> 02:01:50,000 something her residents say that they 2795 02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:51,840 want out there. You see what I mean? And 2796 02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:53,280 so that's something she hears and that 2797 02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:55,920 is something that a majority on this 2798 02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:58,239 council also has a lot of their uh words 2799 02:01:55,920 --> 02:02:00,080 that think about street widenings. But a 2800 02:01:58,239 --> 02:02:02,320 majority on this council don't think 2801 02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:04,800 about because it's not their parts of 2802 02:02:02,320 --> 02:02:06,639 town narrowing roads, the necessity of 2803 02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:08,560 sidewalks, the necessity of parking 2804 02:02:06,639 --> 02:02:10,639 that's behind buildings and putting the 2805 02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:12,480 sidewalk and the building right up 2806 02:02:10,639 --> 02:02:14,239 against each other the way grandpa and 2807 02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:16,000 grandma did during the main street days 2808 02:02:14,239 --> 02:02:17,360 a 100 years ago. So, that's my concern 2809 02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:20,000 is that this is going to just come right 2810 02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:21,920 back and then we won't have like I'm 2811 02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:24,239 just going to be outvoted if I if the 2812 02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:25,440 traffic commission 2813 02:02:24,239 --> 02:02:26,800 I'm sorry I'm just taking time on this 2814 02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:27,760 because this is something I hear from my 2815 02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,440 residents. So, 2816 02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:31,520 » But but I think I think the same issue 2817 02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:33,440 is true right now that if you had 2818 02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:34,639 concerns with this you would have you 2819 02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:36,000 know we'd have to the rest of the 2820 02:02:34,639 --> 02:02:37,199 council would have to vote with you on 2821 02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:38,960 this like if you didn't want to move 2822 02:02:37,199 --> 02:02:41,520 forward with this because of parking 2823 02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:42,880 concerns the same issue would be there 2824 02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:44,880 when you come forward if there's a 2825 02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:46,400 parking item. We don't typically have a 2826 02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:48,239 lot of debate on the parking items, but 2827 02:02:46,400 --> 02:02:49,840 we just haven't had an issue like this 2828 02:02:48,239 --> 02:02:50,880 that was sensitive that was raised with 2829 02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:53,040 the council and brought to their 2830 02:02:50,880 --> 02:02:54,560 attention. So, I think in fairness, 2831 02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:55,760 you're right. You it has to be the whole 2832 02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:57,679 council and there's nothing in our 2833 02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:59,440 process would ever change that it's not 2834 02:02:57,679 --> 02:03:01,119 going to be these bodies approving it. 2835 02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:02,960 But, I do think it's like sharing what 2836 02:03:01,119 --> 02:03:06,080 the concerns on and why why the concerns 2837 02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:08,320 are there um and trusting the judgment 2838 02:03:06,080 --> 02:03:09,280 uh of the body. Well, hopefully, and I 2839 02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:11,440 appreciate the way you're saying that, 2840 02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:14,560 hopefully, council, the way I'm 2841 02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:16,320 articulating this by noting what I hear 2842 02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:18,000 are your concerns within your words 2843 02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:19,520 about the necessity for widening roads 2844 02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:21,440 that I would never in a million years 2845 02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:23,840 use funding to do. But because you all 2846 02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:26,480 hear that, I end up going along with it. 2847 02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:29,840 And I am imploring this council to hear 2848 02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:33,360 me when I tell you that the residents in 2849 02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:35,840 Central Park, Jefferson Park, PO, 2850 02:03:33,360 --> 02:03:38,080 um, Edgemeir, they tell me that Walker 2851 02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:40,080 needs to be safer for pedestrians and 2852 02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:43,040 having an intersection here where you 2853 02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:44,880 have all of these cars just park park 2854 02:03:43,040 --> 02:03:47,280 and then people biking north and south 2855 02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:49,040 here while meanwhile the city is 2856 02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:52,000 investing millions of dollars in the 2857 02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:53,920 streetscape. I go to weekly update 2858 02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:56,080 meetings about this streetscape and we 2859 02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:57,760 are doing such important work over here 2860 02:03:56,080 --> 02:03:59,520 and I just want to make sure again I 2861 02:03:57,760 --> 02:04:02,480 it's important for Matthew to know I 2862 02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:06,400 support this project. I just want it to 2863 02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:07,199 be done as responsibly as possible. So 2864 02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:10,480 » We hear you 2865 02:04:07,199 --> 02:04:12,400 » Councilman. I would wonder if they if 2866 02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:14,800 maybe the applicant could provide some 2867 02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:17,360 conceptual renderings and maybe consider 2868 02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:19,119 parallel parking along that space cuz 2869 02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:21,520 I'm not one to like let's take out 2870 02:04:19,119 --> 02:04:24,080 landscaping, but it does seem like if 2871 02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:25,679 you if you did alter the landscaping 2872 02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:27,360 that there'd be a little extra room and 2873 02:04:25,679 --> 02:04:28,400 you could probably fit some parallel 2874 02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:30,320 parking there. So, I just wonder if 2875 02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:31,360 that's an option to explore. 2876 02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:32,560 » I I think there's 2877 02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:34,239 » Recognize you might not be able to make 2878 02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:35,599 pro promises right now. 2879 02:04:34,239 --> 02:04:36,880 » All options are on the table. I mean, 2880 02:04:35,599 --> 02:04:38,480 we'll have to go through civil engineers 2881 02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:39,599 to draw it out and all that, but again, 2882 02:04:38,480 --> 02:04:42,000 this is just kind of shown as 2883 02:04:39,599 --> 02:04:43,760 conceptual. When we get to that phase of 2884 02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:45,520 it, we'll we will work with traffic 2885 02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:48,400 staff, traffic commission, and whatever 2886 02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:50,080 is deemed to be the the safest and best 2887 02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:52,159 that that's what we'll move forward 2888 02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:53,280 with. I think councilwoman puts forth a 2889 02:04:52,159 --> 02:04:55,280 good idea and then I would just 2890 02:04:53,280 --> 02:05:00,239 encourage you and the applicant to 2891 02:04:55,280 --> 02:05:02,639 revisit this rendering to rethink 2892 02:05:00,239 --> 02:05:05,440 where parking could go in a way that 2893 02:05:02,639 --> 02:05:08,800 fits with a street that is getting a 2894 02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:11,199 streetscape that is prioritizing 2895 02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:13,280 walkability, bikeability, and the safety 2896 02:05:11,199 --> 02:05:14,960 of vehicles. Um, 2897 02:05:13,280 --> 02:05:16,960 » What I am convinced of is it'll be much 2898 02:05:14,960 --> 02:05:18,719 better done than the uh developer to the 2899 02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:21,920 east with no landscaping and 2900 02:05:18,719 --> 02:05:23,440 » Oh, hey, trust me. I have my critiques. 2901 02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:25,760 They're they're quite there, but that 2902 02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:27,599 would be my encouragement. Um, and keep 2903 02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:28,400 me involved as appropriate. 2904 02:05:27,599 --> 02:05:30,960 » We got 2905 02:05:28,400 --> 02:05:31,520 » What is there now? Just a curb. 2906 02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:33,119 » What's that? 2907 02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:35,199 » What is there now? Just a curb. 2908 02:05:33,119 --> 02:05:36,800 » Yes, sir. 2909 02:05:35,199 --> 02:05:38,080 » Okay. Well, thank you for hearing that, 2910 02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:40,159 David. Thank you, city manager. Thank 2911 02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:43,440 you, council, for hearing that as well. 2912 02:05:40,159 --> 02:05:46,840 So with those noted concerns, I would 2913 02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:46,840 move for approval. 2914 02:05:54,800 --> 02:06:00,840 » All right, we have a motion and a 2915 02:05:55,920 --> 02:06:00,840 second. This is item G. Cast your votes. 2916 02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:08,800 » Thank you. 2917 02:06:06,639 --> 02:06:10,880 » Passes unanimous. Now we're back in 2918 02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:14,760 order on item J. 2919 02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:14,760 » That was for 2920 02:06:17,119 --> 02:06:20,960 » Um this is a ordinance on final hearing 2921 02:06:19,679 --> 02:06:25,199 that was recommended for approval 2922 02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:29,679 resoning 5235 North Lincoln from O2 UD 2923 02:06:25,199 --> 02:06:31,199 and HNO to SPD1 1829 UD and HNO. 2924 02:06:29,679 --> 02:06:31,920 Councilman Pennington knowing his sign 2925 02:06:31,199 --> 02:06:33,920 to speak. 2926 02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:37,199 » Thank you, Mayor. um excited to bring 2927 02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:39,920 this new um uh medical manufacturing 2928 02:06:37,199 --> 02:06:43,639 facility right here on Lincoln in W 7 2929 02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:43,639 and I move approval. 2930 02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:53,040 We have a motion and a second. Cast your 2931 02:06:50,079 --> 02:06:56,079 votes. 2932 02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:58,159 Passes unanimously. 2933 02:06:56,079 --> 02:06:59,360 Item K is an ordinance on finally 2934 02:06:58,159 --> 02:07:01,679 hearing that was recommended for 2935 02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:06,239 approval reszoning 225 North Indiana 2936 02:07:01,679 --> 02:07:07,920 from R2 and I2 to SPD 1833. Councilwoman 2937 02:07:06,239 --> 02:07:10,960 Hammond no one decided to speak. 2938 02:07:07,920 --> 02:07:13,440 » Yes, this is um some infill development. 2939 02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:17,159 Yeah, I'll have second Indiana and I am 2940 02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:17,159 happy to move for approval. 2941 02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:27,320 We have a motion and a second. cast your 2942 02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:27,320 votes. 2943 02:07:29,119 --> 02:07:33,119 Passes unanimously. Item L is an 2944 02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:36,480 ordinance on final hearing recommended 2945 02:07:33,119 --> 02:07:40,320 for approval that uh reszones 1107 2946 02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:42,639 Northwest 42nd Street from C4 to SPD 2947 02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:45,599 1836. Councilman Cooper, no one is 2948 02:07:42,639 --> 02:07:47,599 signed to speak. 2949 02:07:45,599 --> 02:07:51,000 » Is the applicant's representative or 2950 02:07:47,599 --> 02:07:51,000 applicant here? 2951 02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:59,639 » Okay. Well, this was uh recommended for 2952 02:07:54,159 --> 02:07:59,639 approval, so I will go along with that. 2953 02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:10,520 Have the motion in a second. Cast your 2954 02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:10,520 votes. 2955 02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:16,719 Passes unanimously. 2956 02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:18,159 Item M is an ordinance on final hearing. 2957 02:08:16,719 --> 02:08:20,560 It was recommended for approval closing 2958 02:08:18,159 --> 02:08:24,480 a single bypass portion of North Bartell 2959 02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:26,320 Road uh near Northeast 50th. Councilman 2960 02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:29,040 Pennington know. 2961 02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:30,800 » Thank you, Mayor. Um this is I think an 2962 02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:34,040 improvement to this intersection and I 2963 02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:34,040 move approval. 2964 02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:46,000 We have a motion and a second. Cast your 2965 02:08:44,079 --> 02:08:48,079 votes. 2966 02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:50,400 passes unanimously. 2967 02:08:48,079 --> 02:08:51,920 Okay. 11 in1 is the public hearing 2968 02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:53,840 regarding the dilapidated structures 2969 02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:56,079 here listed except for those previously 2970 02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:56,480 struck. Amy, has anyone signed up to 2971 02:08:56,079 --> 02:08:57,119 speak? 2972 02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:58,639 » No, they haven't. 2973 02:08:57,119 --> 02:09:00,480 » We have not. So, we'll advance to the 2974 02:08:58,639 --> 02:09:04,440 resolution founded in two declaring that 2975 02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:04,440 the structures are dilapidated. 2976 02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:13,560 We have a motion and a second. Cast your 2977 02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:13,560 votes. 2978 02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:18,320 passes unanimously. Item 1101 is a 2979 02:09:17,119 --> 02:09:19,679 public hearing regarding unsecured 2980 02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:21,040 structures here listed except for those 2981 02:09:19,679 --> 02:09:21,760 previously struck. Amy, has anyone 2982 02:09:21,040 --> 02:09:22,719 signed up to speak? 2983 02:09:21,760 --> 02:09:24,560 » No, they haven't. 2984 02:09:22,719 --> 02:09:26,320 » So, we'll advance to the resolution then 2985 02:09:24,560 --> 02:09:29,320 found at O2 declaring structures are 2986 02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:29,320 unsecured. 2987 02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:38,040 We have a motion and a second. Cast your 2988 02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:38,040 votes. 2989 02:09:42,159 --> 02:09:47,360 passes unanimously. 11 P1 is the public 2990 02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:49,360 hearing regarding the abandoned building 2991 02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:51,360 here listed. One of them was previously 2992 02:09:49,360 --> 02:09:52,480 struck. Uh Amy, has anyone signed to 2993 02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:53,119 speak under this public hearing? 2994 02:09:52,480 --> 02:09:54,320 » No, they have not. 2995 02:09:53,119 --> 02:09:55,679 » They have not. So advance to the 2996 02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:58,679 resolution declared that the building is 2997 02:09:55,679 --> 02:09:58,679 abandoned. 2998 02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:10,000 Have a motion and a second. Cast your 2999 02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:10,000 votes. 3000 02:10:13,040 --> 02:10:17,920 passes unanimously. 3001 02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:19,360 All right. Item uh Q1 is an extension of 3002 02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:22,480 our collective bargaining agreement with 3003 02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:25,199 the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 123. 3004 02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:28,199 Uh executive session is not requested by 3005 02:10:25,199 --> 02:10:28,199 staff. 3006 02:10:31,270 --> 02:10:33,290 [snorts] 3007 02:10:33,520 --> 02:10:37,165 We have a motion and a second. Cast your 3008 02:10:35,679 --> 02:10:39,185 votes. 3009 02:10:37,165 --> 02:10:39,185 » [clears throat] 3010 02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:48,079 » Passes 5 to one. Uh item R1 is a 3011 02:10:46,079 --> 02:10:50,719 resolution authorizing the firm Pierce 3012 02:10:48,079 --> 02:10:52,239 Couch Hendrickson Basinger and Green to 3013 02:10:50,719 --> 02:10:55,280 represent municipal employee Chance 3014 02:10:52,239 --> 02:10:57,440 Alexander in the case of Ewa Yode versus 3015 02:10:55,280 --> 02:11:00,440 City of OKC. Executive session is not 3016 02:10:57,440 --> 02:11:00,440 requested. 3017 02:11:03,520 --> 02:11:08,079 We have a motion and a second. Cast your 3018 02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:08,079 votes. 3019 02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:15,040 passes 5 to one. Uh, now we have item S. 3020 02:11:13,280 --> 02:11:17,280 This is an executive session to discuss 3021 02:11:15,040 --> 02:11:21,119 collective bargaining negotiations for 3022 02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:24,400 fiscal year 2627 with the FOP, IIAF, and 3023 02:11:21,119 --> 02:11:25,920 ASME. Um, we'll just take a vote to go 3024 02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:28,000 into executive session, but we'll handle 3025 02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:31,800 that at the end of our other business. 3026 02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:31,800 So, for now, the vote. 3027 02:11:32,639 --> 02:11:37,440 We have a motion and a second. Cast your 3028 02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:37,440 votes. 3029 02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:43,360 passes unanimously. 3030 02:11:40,560 --> 02:11:45,599 Uh, item T was previously struck, which 3031 02:11:43,360 --> 02:11:48,000 brings us to item U, claims recommended 3032 02:11:45,599 --> 02:11:50,480 for denial. Executive session is not 3033 02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:53,880 requested. We could take the claims uh, 3034 02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:53,880 as a group. 3035 02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:58,679 We have a motion and a second. 3036 02:11:58,719 --> 02:12:02,119 Cast your votes. 3037 02:12:02,159 --> 02:12:06,400 Passes unanimously. 3038 02:12:04,239 --> 02:12:09,119 All right. Item 12 are comments from 3039 02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:12,320 council. Word two. 3040 02:12:09,119 --> 02:12:15,199 » Thank you, mayor, and congratulations on 3041 02:12:12,320 --> 02:12:17,119 your I Well, oh no, you did drama when 3042 02:12:15,199 --> 02:12:19,440 you were in high school, I believe, 3043 02:12:17,119 --> 02:12:23,520 somewhere in there, but u I'm understand 3044 02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:25,199 Lyric Theater had you [laughter] 3045 02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:26,000 » Recently walked to the boards again. 3046 02:12:25,199 --> 02:12:27,920 Yes. Thank you. 3047 02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:31,040 » So, thanks for paving the way because I 3048 02:12:27,920 --> 02:12:32,079 got to join uh former state senator Kay 3049 02:12:31,040 --> 02:12:35,520 Floyd 3050 02:12:32,079 --> 02:12:38,239 » A couple days later. Um, I was not a 3051 02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:41,040 theater kid. It was film. Um, so I got 3052 02:12:38,239 --> 02:12:43,280 to uh join that uh have that experience 3053 02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:45,040 with her. And her experience I learned. 3054 02:12:43,280 --> 02:12:46,400 So we did a Q&A. I'm guessing you all 3055 02:12:45,040 --> 02:12:49,520 did prior. 3056 02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:52,320 » And during the Q&A I learned that state 3057 02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:54,000 senator Floyd working with a Republican 3058 02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:56,159 colleague in the legislature. They were 3059 02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:58,400 able to designate Oklahoma's lyric 3060 02:12:56,159 --> 02:13:00,800 theater as the official theater of the 3061 02:12:58,400 --> 02:13:02,400 state of Oklahoma. And so that was that 3062 02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:03,520 was some cool history that I did not 3063 02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:07,360 know. 3064 02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:10,239 Uh, so and Judge Me as Judge Will. I had 3065 02:13:07,360 --> 02:13:13,760 never seen Annie, so that was my first I 3066 02:13:10,239 --> 02:13:15,920 know I knew the Jay-Z song and that was 3067 02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:17,280 about as far as it went. Um, but I just 3068 02:13:15,920 --> 02:13:19,920 want to thank Lyric for that experience 3069 02:13:17,280 --> 02:13:23,280 and for inviting uh so many elected 3070 02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:26,560 officials uh to join them for that. Um, 3071 02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:28,960 I also wanted to say thanks to Crown 3072 02:13:26,560 --> 02:13:32,880 Heights, Douglas, oh, sorry, Crown 3073 02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:34,880 Heights and Edgeir Heights for inviting, 3074 02:13:32,880 --> 02:13:38,800 uh, some electeds to their Fourth of 3075 02:13:34,880 --> 02:13:40,239 July parade. Uh, that Saturday morning, 3076 02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:42,560 uh, I got to sit in as a judge, which 3077 02:13:40,239 --> 02:13:45,040 I've done every year since I've taken 3078 02:13:42,560 --> 02:13:49,199 office. Um, [clears throat] 3079 02:13:45,040 --> 02:13:50,639 and then also to uh Edgemeir uh because 3080 02:13:49,199 --> 02:13:52,320 uh right afterwards they had a 3081 02:13:50,639 --> 02:13:55,199 neighborhood barbecue and it was just 3082 02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:58,079 really nice to get to hang out with uh 3083 02:13:55,199 --> 02:13:59,520 those two uh neighborhoods. And uh 3084 02:13:58,079 --> 02:14:03,239 that's all I have for you. 3085 02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:03,239 » All right, board three. 3086 02:14:03,760 --> 02:14:07,199 » I'll just give a quick shout out. um 3087 02:14:05,599 --> 02:14:08,960 Robin Jones here representing the West 3088 02:14:07,199 --> 02:14:11,040 10 district earlier today and I just 3089 02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:13,040 want to give kudos to that district and 3090 02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:15,040 the investment that our community's made 3091 02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:16,880 in beautifification and improving areas 3092 02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:18,960 and I really appreciate the leadership 3093 02:14:16,880 --> 02:14:20,159 that she and her sister have made in in 3094 02:14:18,960 --> 02:14:22,239 the West 10 district and the whole 3095 02:14:20,159 --> 02:14:24,480 board. Um but she did make an illusion 3096 02:14:22,239 --> 02:14:26,639 to a history series that they've been 3097 02:14:24,480 --> 02:14:28,079 hosting at Castle Falls and they're 3098 02:14:26,639 --> 02:14:30,560 typically running around a hundred 3099 02:14:28,079 --> 02:14:32,960 people per event and uh just some great 3100 02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:34,960 cool Oklahoma history of Oklahoma City 3101 02:14:32,960 --> 02:14:36,400 and its infancy. So I would encourage 3102 02:14:34,960 --> 02:14:38,320 you if you're a history buff or 3103 02:14:36,400 --> 02:14:40,159 interested in that to check out Castle 3104 02:14:38,320 --> 02:14:42,800 Falls in the West 10 district work 3105 02:14:40,159 --> 02:14:44,079 there. 3106 02:14:42,800 --> 02:14:46,239 » Thank you. Work for [clears throat] 3107 02:14:44,079 --> 02:14:48,320 Thank you, mayor. Thank you for calling 3108 02:14:46,239 --> 02:14:50,800 her out because I was as she was 3109 02:14:48,320 --> 02:14:53,119 speaking u I was very appreciative of 3110 02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:54,719 that and I had some questions but it had 3111 02:14:53,119 --> 02:14:57,360 nothing to do with what she was doing. 3112 02:14:54,719 --> 02:15:00,480 So I just wanted to apply that. And then 3113 02:14:57,360 --> 02:15:04,159 u Councilman Cooper evidently you didn't 3114 02:15:00,480 --> 02:15:05,280 see me lyric Theater. No, 3115 02:15:04,159 --> 02:15:06,960 » You did it, too. 3116 02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:08,639 » Yeah, it was like 50 years ago. 3117 02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:10,239 » Okay. [laughter] 3118 02:15:08,639 --> 02:15:12,560 » You might have missed it, but you know, 3119 02:15:10,239 --> 02:15:14,560 congratulations, mayor. That was very 3120 02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:16,400 awesome. So, thank you. 3121 02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:17,280 » Whoa, whoa, whoa. But you were in a show 3122 02:15:16,400 --> 02:15:17,760 50 years ago. 3123 02:15:17,280 --> 02:15:20,880 » What? 3124 02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:23,840 » Oh, yeah. I I worked at Lyric Theater, 3125 02:15:20,880 --> 02:15:26,239 Oklahoma Theater Center, Jewel Box, all 3126 02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:27,920 of those. It was fantastic. Really fun. 3127 02:15:26,239 --> 02:15:30,000 » All right. Well, we'll have to explore 3128 02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:32,079 that. 3129 02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:33,599 » I don't think we had videos back then. 3130 02:15:32,079 --> 02:15:35,199 That's probably a super eight or 3131 02:15:33,599 --> 02:15:36,719 something. 3132 02:15:35,199 --> 02:15:41,480 » Uh, word five. 3133 02:15:36,719 --> 02:15:41,480 » He was the third mushroom from the lift. 3134 02:15:42,400 --> 02:15:46,560 » That is that it for word five. Word six. 3135 02:15:44,239 --> 02:15:49,280 » That's it for word five. Um, I'd just 3136 02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:51,679 like to thank the housing authority, um, 3137 02:15:49,280 --> 02:15:53,440 their staff, Lilyfield, um, family 3138 02:15:51,679 --> 02:15:57,280 services. Uh, I think it was last 3139 02:15:53,440 --> 02:15:59,119 Monday. I had the pleasure attending um 3140 02:15:57,280 --> 02:16:01,280 their sort of celebration for their 3141 02:15:59,119 --> 02:16:04,400 early action project through the choice 3142 02:16:01,280 --> 02:16:06,320 um neighborhoods initiative. Um for 3143 02:16:04,400 --> 02:16:08,239 those not familiar and maybe a refresher 3144 02:16:06,320 --> 02:16:10,400 if you are familiar the choice 3145 02:16:08,239 --> 02:16:12,960 neighborhoods is a housing and urban 3146 02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:15,040 development program that um the housing 3147 02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:16,560 authority has applied to for Will Rogers 3148 02:16:15,040 --> 02:16:19,199 courts. I [music] believe we're still 3149 02:16:16,560 --> 02:16:21,520 waiting on a response about how that 3150 02:16:19,199 --> 02:16:23,360 grant is going, but um we did get a 3151 02:16:21,520 --> 02:16:26,079 planning grant through them and over the 3152 02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:29,199 last few years they have been working um 3153 02:16:26,079 --> 02:16:30,960 with a consultant and some local um 3154 02:16:29,199 --> 02:16:33,760 putting together a lot of local partners 3155 02:16:30,960 --> 02:16:35,920 who were also present um last Monday. 3156 02:16:33,760 --> 02:16:37,920 And one of the components of the 3157 02:16:35,920 --> 02:16:43,439 planning grant is an early action event 3158 02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:47,040 to um invest in the the the area um to 3159 02:16:43,439 --> 02:16:49,519 to do something that shows that um that 3160 02:16:47,040 --> 02:16:51,120 action can happen um based on what 3161 02:16:49,519 --> 02:16:54,639 they've heard from residents and and 3162 02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:56,880 neighborhood um groups. Um specifically 3163 02:16:54,639 --> 02:16:59,280 they they've uh wanted to sort of 3164 02:16:56,880 --> 02:17:01,599 improve the this parking lot area at 3165 02:16:59,280 --> 02:17:04,319 South Rotary Park where a lot of folks 3166 02:17:01,599 --> 02:17:06,719 tend to do like burnouts. um it wasn't 3167 02:17:04,319 --> 02:17:08,160 really like well maintained or kept up, 3168 02:17:06,719 --> 02:17:11,120 you know, just sort of the regular 3169 02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:14,160 mowing that happens um through the parks 3170 02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:16,479 department. But now it has some art, 3171 02:17:14,160 --> 02:17:18,880 some color, um a new sort of median 3172 02:17:16,479 --> 02:17:22,319 space that can be um a gathering space 3173 02:17:18,880 --> 02:17:24,960 as well as um sort of a deterrent to 3174 02:17:22,319 --> 02:17:27,760 that kind of um doing those donuts um 3175 02:17:24,960 --> 02:17:30,399 activity. Um as well as some space for 3176 02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:32,559 like food trucks um different partner, 3177 02:17:30,399 --> 02:17:35,359 you know, Goodwill's um mobile van was 3178 02:17:32,559 --> 02:17:37,200 there parked in that space. I know the 3179 02:17:35,359 --> 02:17:40,800 um city county health department's food 3180 02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:42,319 truck van um uh pantry van goes around 3181 02:17:40,800 --> 02:17:44,559 and and that's a one of their sites. So 3182 02:17:42,319 --> 02:17:47,359 now they'll have like a really nice um 3183 02:17:44,559 --> 02:17:48,639 queuing area and space that um works a 3184 02:17:47,359 --> 02:17:51,519 lot better for that that sort of 3185 02:17:48,639 --> 02:17:53,280 activity. Um and it was just a really 3186 02:17:51,519 --> 02:17:55,359 lovely event. Lots of folks out and 3187 02:17:53,280 --> 02:17:56,960 about. Um it was very hot, so I was 3188 02:17:55,359 --> 02:17:58,800 amazed that they had the turnout they 3189 02:17:56,960 --> 02:18:00,880 did. Um but it was really nice to see 3190 02:17:58,800 --> 02:18:03,359 that space activated as well as um get 3191 02:18:00,880 --> 02:18:05,519 to tour Lilyfield's new community center 3192 02:18:03,359 --> 02:18:08,319 that's just across the street. Um which 3193 02:18:05,519 --> 02:18:10,399 is also a um a part of that early action 3194 02:18:08,319 --> 02:18:12,880 project. And um we're crossing our 3195 02:18:10,399 --> 02:18:15,120 fingers that we we get the the grant, 3196 02:18:12,880 --> 02:18:17,280 but um really just appreci appreciative 3197 02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:18,559 of um the implementation grant, I should 3198 02:18:17,280 --> 02:18:20,880 say, but really appreciative of the 3199 02:18:18,559 --> 02:18:22,399 housing authority um and all those 3200 02:18:20,880 --> 02:18:25,120 partners that are really coming together 3201 02:18:22,399 --> 02:18:27,439 to support the neighbors there, find 3202 02:18:25,120 --> 02:18:28,960 those, you know, ways to support folks 3203 02:18:27,439 --> 02:18:31,040 um getting into different types of 3204 02:18:28,960 --> 02:18:33,519 employment, supportive services like 3205 02:18:31,040 --> 02:18:35,760 through family supports and um all the 3206 02:18:33,519 --> 02:18:37,679 the youth programming that Lilyfield has 3207 02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:40,559 is really exciting for the area. So just 3208 02:18:37,679 --> 02:18:43,040 want to prov uh yeah share those 3209 02:18:40,559 --> 02:18:45,120 appreciation and um if you go look at 3210 02:18:43,040 --> 02:18:46,319 the housing authorities I social media 3211 02:18:45,120 --> 02:18:47,760 you should see some pictures from the 3212 02:18:46,319 --> 02:18:50,080 event. It was a really really great 3213 02:18:47,760 --> 02:18:52,080 time. 3214 02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:53,679 » Thank you 7. 3215 02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:54,800 » Thank you mayor. Just just want to say 3216 02:18:53,679 --> 02:18:56,639 quickly addressing some of the comments 3217 02:18:54,800 --> 02:18:59,439 that were made to this council earlier 3218 02:18:56,639 --> 02:19:01,280 today regarding um the hotel motel tax 3219 02:18:59,439 --> 02:19:03,280 and the convention and center uh 3220 02:19:01,280 --> 02:19:04,880 visitors bureau. 3221 02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:07,519 I'm not going to address whether or not 3222 02:19:04,880 --> 02:19:10,319 the chamber is the appropriate person to 3223 02:19:07,519 --> 02:19:12,160 administer um our convention and visitor 3224 02:19:10,319 --> 02:19:14,000 services. Seems appropriate to me 3225 02:19:12,160 --> 02:19:16,399 personally, but I think it's up to 3226 02:19:14,000 --> 02:19:18,080 debate if you agree with that or not. 3227 02:19:16,399 --> 02:19:19,840 What I do want to address is the 3228 02:19:18,080 --> 02:19:22,399 comments from one of our residents that 3229 02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:24,960 is concerned that our spending is not 3230 02:19:22,399 --> 02:19:27,439 towards other per spending on the this 3231 02:19:24,960 --> 02:19:29,920 hotel motel tax is not towards other 3232 02:19:27,439 --> 02:19:32,240 social services that both me and the 3233 02:19:29,920 --> 02:19:34,399 speaker think are great expenses for 3234 02:19:32,240 --> 02:19:37,040 this city. We are expending the funds 3235 02:19:34,399 --> 02:19:40,000 that the voters said we have to spend it 3236 02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:41,840 this way. That's why. So I just want to 3237 02:19:40,000 --> 02:19:43,120 be clear. I I appreciate that there are 3238 02:19:41,840 --> 02:19:45,280 a lot of people who are hurting in our 3239 02:19:43,120 --> 02:19:47,120 city. I also appreciate that our city 3240 02:19:45,280 --> 02:19:48,720 does a lot of work to try to make it 3241 02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:50,640 better and improve it. And that's why 3242 02:19:48,720 --> 02:19:53,600 we're here. That's why all of us serve. 3243 02:19:50,640 --> 02:19:54,720 And so in some of these more um in these 3244 02:19:53,600 --> 02:19:56,160 challenging times, I think it's 3245 02:19:54,720 --> 02:19:57,600 important for us to remember what 3246 02:19:56,160 --> 02:19:59,439 commitments we've actually made. The 3247 02:19:57,600 --> 02:20:02,080 voters told us to do this, so that's why 3248 02:19:59,439 --> 02:20:03,200 we're doing it. Again, um I know that 3249 02:20:02,080 --> 02:20:04,479 there are other priorities that are 3250 02:20:03,200 --> 02:20:06,640 important, and I think we're trying to 3251 02:20:04,479 --> 02:20:09,920 work towards how we address those social 3252 02:20:06,640 --> 02:20:11,920 concerns, too. So, just worth noting. 3253 02:20:09,920 --> 02:20:13,920 » Okay. Thank you. That concludes uh 3254 02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:16,319 comments from council. forward. Item 13, 3255 02:20:13,920 --> 02:20:18,240 citizens to be heard. And I'd remind 3256 02:20:16,319 --> 02:20:19,920 everybody to uh state your name and 3257 02:20:18,240 --> 02:20:21,280 address, keep your remarks to 3 minutes 3258 02:20:19,920 --> 02:20:23,680 or less, and you'll be warned when you 3259 02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:26,680 have 30 seconds left. First up is Steve 3260 02:20:23,680 --> 02:20:26,680 Hunt. 3261 02:20:27,760 --> 02:20:32,479 Steve Hunt, 6300 West Drive. Uh first of 3262 02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:33,760 all, I want to say Mayor Hold, it's an 3263 02:20:32,479 --> 02:20:35,200 honor for you staying for citizen 3264 02:20:33,760 --> 02:20:37,520 presentations today. You don't normally 3265 02:20:35,200 --> 02:20:38,800 do that, and it's great to see you. Um I 3266 02:20:37,520 --> 02:20:40,800 want to thank you all for bringing up 3267 02:20:38,800 --> 02:20:44,000 Decard. Uh I didn't see that on the 3268 02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:47,520 agenda. I've been noticing a lot of SAS 3269 02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:50,160 uh meddling lately with uh specifically 3270 02:20:47,520 --> 02:20:51,840 Granicus that owns Prime Gov. Uh they 3271 02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:54,240 are now owned by a private equity firm. 3272 02:20:51,840 --> 02:20:57,280 The initial contract with the city was 3273 02:20:54,240 --> 02:21:00,960 50,000. It is now 300,000. 3274 02:20:57,280 --> 02:21:03,840 And also um consent docket. I I was 3275 02:21:00,960 --> 02:21:05,680 looking at the municipal charter to see 3276 02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:07,200 what was allowed to be put in the 3277 02:21:05,680 --> 02:21:08,560 consent docket. And basically the way it 3278 02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:11,280 works is you can do whatever you want 3279 02:21:08,560 --> 02:21:14,000 because the mayor dictates how it works. 3280 02:21:11,280 --> 02:21:16,640 Um, and I noticed that Munichode is now 3281 02:21:14,000 --> 02:21:19,120 also owned by private equity. So, this 3282 02:21:16,640 --> 02:21:22,800 $75,000 to Decard is going to probably 3283 02:21:19,120 --> 02:21:25,520 be 150, 200, 300 in in the future. So, I 3284 02:21:22,800 --> 02:21:28,000 thank you all for for mentioning that. 3285 02:21:25,520 --> 02:21:30,000 Um, awesome. I'm still at three minutes. 3286 02:21:28,000 --> 02:21:34,720 Uh, 3287 02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:38,640 okay. Um, yeah. And what I wanted to to 3288 02:21:34,720 --> 02:21:41,520 talk about uh regarding the um the 3289 02:21:38,640 --> 02:21:43,200 chamber contract is that yes, it was 3290 02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:45,840 voted on by the people, but the the 3291 02:21:43,200 --> 02:21:48,640 campaign was run by the chamber and it 3292 02:21:45,840 --> 02:21:50,399 was held during a time of year that was 3293 02:21:48,640 --> 02:21:52,399 outside of primary season. They always 3294 02:21:50,399 --> 02:21:54,479 have special elections when they don't 3295 02:21:52,399 --> 02:21:55,760 want the masses to come out and vote so 3296 02:21:54,479 --> 02:21:57,359 they can specifically target their 3297 02:21:55,760 --> 02:21:59,280 people. I thought it was funny that the 3298 02:21:57,359 --> 02:22:03,600 uh Oklahoma had an article about me and 3299 02:21:59,280 --> 02:22:06,479 Matthew Polaris uh saying that and and 3300 02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:09,520 it was Dave's friend Pat McFaren. It was 3301 02:22:06,479 --> 02:22:11,359 not verified or denied by uh the 3302 02:22:09,520 --> 02:22:14,399 Oklahoma reporter, but it was Pat 3303 02:22:11,359 --> 02:22:16,880 McFaren said Steve Hunt cost the 3304 02:22:14,399 --> 02:22:19,920 taxpayers $350,000 3305 02:22:16,880 --> 02:22:22,800 by forcing a unnecessary election. And I 3306 02:22:19,920 --> 02:22:25,040 was like, what the hell? 3307 02:22:22,800 --> 02:22:26,960 you all had a a special election for the 3308 02:22:25,040 --> 02:22:29,040 hotel tax, for the fix the jail 3309 02:22:26,960 --> 02:22:30,399 campaign, for the arena. That's over a 3310 02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:32,800 million dollars, but I'm the one that 3311 02:22:30,399 --> 02:22:35,760 gets mentioned in the Oklahoma and it's 3312 02:22:32,800 --> 02:22:38,880 like, oh my god, what the what planet is 3313 02:22:35,760 --> 02:22:42,880 this? Um, [clears throat] 3314 02:22:38,880 --> 02:22:45,040 lastly, uh, uh, I'll I'll try not to 3315 02:22:42,880 --> 02:22:48,800 mess with the time there. Um, last 3316 02:22:45,040 --> 02:22:51,359 thing, my main concern is that this 3317 02:22:48,800 --> 02:22:54,000 brings about an enormous inefficiency 3318 02:22:51,359 --> 02:22:56,080 when the chamber dictates who gets what 3319 02:22:54,000 --> 02:22:59,520 contracts and and the greatest example 3320 02:22:56,080 --> 02:23:02,800 is the Thunder TV and radio. I spoke 3321 02:22:59,520 --> 02:23:05,200 about uh Main Street uh sports, which 3322 02:23:02,800 --> 02:23:08,720 was the revived corpse of Diamond Sports 3323 02:23:05,200 --> 02:23:09,760 is now insolvent. They no longer exist. 3324 02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:12,960 They thought they were going to be able 3325 02:23:09,760 --> 02:23:15,280 to sell to a a a UK Saudi group, but it 3326 02:23:12,960 --> 02:23:17,600 was such a piece of crap that it's 3327 02:23:15,280 --> 02:23:20,240 dissolved. Now, Cumulus, who does the 3328 02:23:17,600 --> 02:23:21,760 Thunder Radio, is handed over to their 3329 02:23:20,240 --> 02:23:24,800 creditors. I spoke with people in the 3330 02:23:21,760 --> 02:23:27,040 FCC. They're not going to renew the 3331 02:23:24,800 --> 02:23:30,000 licensing uh for the creditors until 3332 02:23:27,040 --> 02:23:32,560 after Thunder starts. So, again, we need 3333 02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:35,120 to think about giving the Thunder rights 3334 02:23:32,560 --> 02:23:36,640 to Perry Broadcasting or another local 3335 02:23:35,120 --> 02:23:39,040 group. I know that you all don't dictate 3336 02:23:36,640 --> 02:23:40,319 that, but you do influence it. I could 3337 02:23:39,040 --> 02:23:40,960 go on forever, but thanks so much for 3338 02:23:40,319 --> 02:23:45,399 the time. 3339 02:23:40,960 --> 02:23:45,399 » Thank you. Uh, Mari Williams. 3340 02:23:53,359 --> 02:23:57,120 » Good morning again. My name is Murray 3341 02:23:55,439 --> 02:23:58,800 Williams. I've lived in the OKC metro 3342 02:23:57,120 --> 02:24:00,640 for my entire life. I currently reside 3343 02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:02,479 in Ward 5. 3344 02:24:00,640 --> 02:24:04,319 I'm here to ask the council to please 3345 02:24:02,479 --> 02:24:06,240 not renew the Flock contract at your 3346 02:24:04,319 --> 02:24:08,240 next meeting. At the meeting on June 3347 02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:10,399 16th, I detailed multiple instances in 3348 02:24:08,240 --> 02:24:12,240 which Flock and its AI made mistakes 3349 02:24:10,399 --> 02:24:13,680 that traumatized innocent people and 3350 02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:15,520 cost cities money for lawsuit 3351 02:24:13,680 --> 02:24:18,000 settlements. There have also been 3352 02:24:15,520 --> 02:24:20,880 several cases where law enforcement has 3353 02:24:18,000 --> 02:24:22,880 used it to stalk romantic partners. The 3354 02:24:20,880 --> 02:24:25,359 company claims they perform 20 billion 3355 02:24:22,880 --> 02:24:27,280 scams of vehicles every month. All of 3356 02:24:25,359 --> 02:24:30,080 these files are held in a database for 3357 02:24:27,280 --> 02:24:32,880 at least 30 days. But it just does not 3358 02:24:30,080 --> 02:24:35,040 just detect license plate. It detects 3359 02:24:32,880 --> 02:24:37,280 people 30 days of your life at every 3360 02:24:35,040 --> 02:24:39,120 intersection, every errand. Every 3361 02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:41,600 predictable pattern is stored, 3362 02:24:39,120 --> 02:24:43,760 searchable, and charitable globally. No 3363 02:24:41,600 --> 02:24:46,000 warrant, no probable cause, no knock at 3364 02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:47,520 your door. You're not a suspect. You're 3365 02:24:46,000 --> 02:24:49,840 just driving and going about your normal 3366 02:24:47,520 --> 02:24:52,000 day. But Flock doesn't care. It takes 3367 02:24:49,840 --> 02:24:54,399 pictures anyway. It records you. It 3368 02:24:52,000 --> 02:24:55,920 tracks your movements because it can. 3369 02:24:54,399 --> 02:24:57,920 because someone sold the majority of 3370 02:24:55,920 --> 02:25:00,080 this council three years ago on the 3371 02:24:57,920 --> 02:25:01,920 illusion of safety. It's government 3372 02:25:00,080 --> 02:25:03,680 overreach to have this private company 3373 02:25:01,920 --> 02:25:05,840 holding all of this warrantless data 3374 02:25:03,680 --> 02:25:07,920 with full access given to police and 3375 02:25:05,840 --> 02:25:10,800 certain federal agencies across 49 3376 02:25:07,920 --> 02:25:13,120 states and other countries. 3377 02:25:10,800 --> 02:25:14,800 Over 40 municipalities have canceled or 3378 02:25:13,120 --> 02:25:17,439 paused their contracts with Flock since 3379 02:25:14,800 --> 02:25:19,120 early 2025. This system gives the 3380 02:25:17,439 --> 02:25:21,600 illusion of safety, but it's also used 3381 02:25:19,120 --> 02:25:23,520 to stalk ex-wives, harass protesters 3382 02:25:21,600 --> 02:25:25,359 exercising their First Amendment rights 3383 02:25:23,520 --> 02:25:27,600 and target certain religious communities 3384 02:25:25,359 --> 02:25:30,000 with discriminatory discriminatory 3385 02:25:27,600 --> 02:25:31,600 searches. Either these cameras are 3386 02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:33,359 undermining the freedom that they claim 3387 02:25:31,600 --> 02:25:35,200 to defend or they were never about 3388 02:25:33,359 --> 02:25:36,960 safety in the first place. They were 3389 02:25:35,200 --> 02:25:38,800 really about control and turning every 3390 02:25:36,960 --> 02:25:41,439 public road into a data corral where 3391 02:25:38,800 --> 02:25:43,520 your movements belong to belong to 3392 02:25:41,439 --> 02:25:45,040 whoever logs in first and can access 3393 02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:47,280 them. 3394 02:25:45,040 --> 02:25:50,080 Our innocent people are being actively 3395 02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:52,080 logged, branded, and filed. Please vote 3396 02:25:50,080 --> 02:25:53,760 to not renew the flock contract at this 3397 02:25:52,080 --> 02:25:56,640 next upcoming meeting. Thank you for 3398 02:25:53,760 --> 02:26:01,399 your time. 3399 02:25:56,640 --> 02:26:01,399 Thank you. Um, Lance Gil, 3400 02:26:05,359 --> 02:26:10,280 uh, Ibraham Moralsa, 3401 02:26:11,600 --> 02:26:15,080 Brady, Herrell, 3402 02:26:27,200 --> 02:26:33,200 Hello. Uh my name is Brady Herrell. I 3403 02:26:29,920 --> 02:26:35,760 live at 424 Colberg Drive. Uh and I'm 3404 02:26:33,200 --> 02:26:40,240 also here to talk about um uh flock 3405 02:26:35,760 --> 02:26:42,000 cameras. Um ALPR or automated license 3406 02:26:40,240 --> 02:26:45,120 plate reader surveillance technology 3407 02:26:42,000 --> 02:26:48,240 such as uh those paid for by taxpayers 3408 02:26:45,120 --> 02:26:50,960 in Oklahoma City by Flock. uh taking 3409 02:26:48,240 --> 02:26:52,640 photos, videos, and capturing audio from 3410 02:26:50,960 --> 02:26:55,359 microphones attached to these 3411 02:26:52,640 --> 02:26:59,040 polemounted cameras have proven a tool 3412 02:26:55,359 --> 02:27:02,960 of potential extensive abuse, 3413 02:26:59,040 --> 02:27:05,920 not just from city uh from cities uh 3414 02:27:02,960 --> 02:27:09,680 local officials uh who Oklahomaans uh 3415 02:27:05,920 --> 02:27:12,000 could expect to monitor. Um, Oklahoma 3416 02:27:09,680 --> 02:27:14,240 City has seen a dramatic increase in law 3417 02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:16,640 enforcement activity, particularly in 3418 02:27:14,240 --> 02:27:19,840 collaboration with federal agents such 3419 02:27:16,640 --> 02:27:23,359 as ICE. Uh, I'm confident the city 3420 02:27:19,840 --> 02:27:26,000 council knows that ICE agents have 3421 02:27:23,359 --> 02:27:28,880 repeatedly performed numerous arrests in 3422 02:27:26,000 --> 02:27:33,200 Oklahoma City, uh, reaching 10 to 15 3423 02:27:28,880 --> 02:27:36,000 arrests a day multiple times. Um June 3424 02:27:33,200 --> 02:27:39,760 27th, Oklahoma City saw a reported 30 3425 02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:41,840 ICE arrests, which was also uh reported 3426 02:27:39,760 --> 02:27:45,920 to be the first wave of an escalation 3427 02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:50,160 going into this month, July. Uh these 3428 02:27:45,920 --> 02:27:52,880 are uh people with no criminal records 3429 02:27:50,160 --> 02:27:56,160 except uh for crimes such as seeking 3430 02:27:52,880 --> 02:27:59,520 asylum. Um they are unconstitutionally 3431 02:27:56,160 --> 02:28:01,920 ripped away from families and lives that 3432 02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:05,439 uh often support the rest of us here in 3433 02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:08,160 the community and uh then sent over uh 3434 02:28:05,439 --> 02:28:12,800 to crowded detention centers for months 3435 02:28:08,160 --> 02:28:17,120 where they are um in very confusing 3436 02:28:12,800 --> 02:28:19,840 situations, forced to work or uh and uh 3437 02:28:17,120 --> 02:28:23,359 provided little opportunity to afford 3438 02:28:19,840 --> 02:28:25,280 calls to their families and lawyers. Uh, 3439 02:28:23,359 --> 02:28:27,600 flot cameras, particularly the more 3440 02:28:25,280 --> 02:28:30,720 advanced Condor camera with AI 3441 02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:33,439 controlled pan, tilt, zoom functions, 3442 02:28:30,720 --> 02:28:36,080 have been used to log behavior and 3443 02:28:33,439 --> 02:28:39,200 movement data of persons beyond the 3444 02:28:36,080 --> 02:28:41,439 vehicle they drive. 3445 02:28:39,200 --> 02:28:43,920 These cameras will follow a human 3446 02:28:41,439 --> 02:28:46,160 presence whenever detected. That means 3447 02:28:43,920 --> 02:28:48,560 tracking personal movement, people on 3448 02:28:46,160 --> 02:28:50,800 the streets, audio of anyone and 3449 02:28:48,560 --> 02:28:54,080 everyone who has traveled around the 3450 02:28:50,800 --> 02:28:56,000 technology. Every physically, everyone 3451 02:28:54,080 --> 02:28:58,240 physically in Oklahoma City is 3452 02:28:56,000 --> 02:28:59,439 experiencing an increased surveillance. 3453 02:28:58,240 --> 02:29:01,600 » 30 seconds remaining 3454 02:28:59,439 --> 02:29:04,240 » That is putting our neighbors in harm's 3455 02:29:01,600 --> 02:29:06,880 way and tracking data from immigrants to 3456 02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:09,600 citizens, uh, drivers and the unhoused. 3457 02:29:06,880 --> 02:29:12,160 We are all being monitored uh, rather 3458 02:29:09,600 --> 02:29:14,880 unnecessarily. Our neighbors are being 3459 02:29:12,160 --> 02:29:16,800 taken away and be uh just for being 3460 02:29:14,880 --> 02:29:18,960 driven to work or getting groceries. All 3461 02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:21,040 flack cameras and ALPRs should be 3462 02:29:18,960 --> 02:29:23,600 removed from Oklahoma City streets and 3463 02:29:21,040 --> 02:29:25,680 buildings. The flock cameras contract 3464 02:29:23,600 --> 02:29:27,920 should not be renewed. I encourage the 3465 02:29:25,680 --> 02:29:30,000 city council to respect the privacy of 3466 02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:32,399 our neighbors in Oklahoma City. Don't 3467 02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:34,479 renew the flock contract with uh the 3468 02:29:32,399 --> 02:29:37,280 city. Do not allow this increased 3469 02:29:34,479 --> 02:29:39,920 surveillance of Oklahoma's people. Uh 3470 02:29:37,280 --> 02:29:41,439 please uh please take down every camera. 3471 02:29:39,920 --> 02:29:45,319 Uh, thank you for your time. 3472 02:29:41,439 --> 02:29:45,319 » Thank you, Jessica Scott. 3473 02:29:52,160 --> 02:29:58,720 » Jessica Scott, 3017 Delmare, Del City, 3474 02:29:56,080 --> 02:30:01,840 and I'm here to also talk about flock 3475 02:29:58,720 --> 02:30:05,680 and ask you to not renew any contracts 3476 02:30:01,840 --> 02:30:09,200 next month. This is a bipartisan issue. 3477 02:30:05,680 --> 02:30:10,720 Republicans, Libertarians, Democrats, 3478 02:30:09,200 --> 02:30:14,560 independents 3479 02:30:10,720 --> 02:30:17,120 do not want um the government sur 3480 02:30:14,560 --> 02:30:19,439 surveillance uh tracking every movement 3481 02:30:17,120 --> 02:30:22,800 they make and the bumper stickers on 3482 02:30:19,439 --> 02:30:25,040 their car. I have not really seen 3483 02:30:22,800 --> 02:30:29,200 anybody, let alone a big crowd of people 3484 02:30:25,040 --> 02:30:31,120 that are advocating to be surveiled. Um, 3485 02:30:29,200 --> 02:30:34,240 and also I just want to note that this 3486 02:30:31,120 --> 02:30:37,520 doesn't even just affect Oklahoma City 3487 02:30:34,240 --> 02:30:40,160 residents. Um, I mean those of us who 3488 02:30:37,520 --> 02:30:42,160 live right out of city limits pretty 3489 02:30:40,160 --> 02:30:47,040 much have to go through Oklahoma City 3490 02:30:42,160 --> 02:30:50,240 all the time. And so it's affecting 3491 02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:52,880 a lot of people in the state. Um, right 3492 02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:55,840 now we're in the early stages of AI and 3493 02:30:52,880 --> 02:30:57,680 have no idea how it will affect us. 3494 02:30:55,840 --> 02:31:00,479 There's almost no regulations or 3495 02:30:57,680 --> 02:31:02,640 protections against AI as it begins 3496 02:31:00,479 --> 02:31:06,319 taking over almost every aspect of our 3497 02:31:02,640 --> 02:31:09,760 life. Flock the newer flock cameras use 3498 02:31:06,319 --> 02:31:12,880 AI. What protections does the city have 3499 02:31:09,760 --> 02:31:16,080 in place for that? Oklahoma City PD 3500 02:31:12,880 --> 02:31:20,240 seems to have zero protections for that. 3501 02:31:16,080 --> 02:31:22,640 No use policies, almost zero oversight. 3502 02:31:20,240 --> 02:31:24,319 It's not only reckless to renew these 3503 02:31:22,640 --> 02:31:28,240 contracts 3504 02:31:24,319 --> 02:31:30,720 um with the AI and everything that we 3505 02:31:28,240 --> 02:31:33,520 have going on, but it is extremely 3506 02:31:30,720 --> 02:31:36,640 unpopular. I'm sure you've seen around 3507 02:31:33,520 --> 02:31:38,640 the country um you know, residents 3508 02:31:36,640 --> 02:31:42,800 retaliating when city council goes 3509 02:31:38,640 --> 02:31:46,399 against them to vote for data centers. I 3510 02:31:42,800 --> 02:31:50,399 view this very much the same way 3511 02:31:46,399 --> 02:31:53,120 um with how unpopular it is. And also 3512 02:31:50,399 --> 02:31:56,160 the crazy thing is if if you are to use 3513 02:31:53,120 --> 02:31:59,120 your power to go against the people to 3514 02:31:56,160 --> 02:32:01,280 do this um you'd be giving your power 3515 02:31:59,120 --> 02:32:04,080 away because it's my understanding that 3516 02:32:01,280 --> 02:32:07,280 Flock can change their capabilities and 3517 02:32:04,080 --> 02:32:10,000 add new features without your approval, 3518 02:32:07,280 --> 02:32:12,560 without the city council's approval. So, 3519 02:32:10,000 --> 02:32:14,399 you wouldn't be able to guarantee 3520 02:32:12,560 --> 02:32:17,439 um that you're able to keep that in 3521 02:32:14,399 --> 02:32:19,840 check if they can just go around you to 3522 02:32:17,439 --> 02:32:23,200 rewrite those contracts 3523 02:32:19,840 --> 02:32:25,439 and these issues, especially in the 3524 02:32:23,200 --> 02:32:28,640 current political climate. 3525 02:32:25,439 --> 02:32:30,720 » Um, and like I said with AI, should be 3526 02:32:28,640 --> 02:32:33,200 more than enough to vote no on this at 3527 02:32:30,720 --> 02:32:37,040 the next meeting. But if you still 3528 02:32:33,200 --> 02:32:41,359 choose to, I hope that you really take 3529 02:32:37,040 --> 02:32:44,640 time to ensure that there is going to be 3530 02:32:41,359 --> 02:32:48,240 oversight and policies put in place 3531 02:32:44,640 --> 02:32:52,080 because as of right now, there's seems 3532 02:32:48,240 --> 02:32:53,840 to be almost no oversight or uh 3533 02:32:52,080 --> 02:32:55,120 protections for the residents of the 3534 02:32:53,840 --> 02:32:59,080 city. Thank you. 3535 02:32:55,120 --> 02:32:59,080 » Thank you, Kristen Schubel. 3536 02:33:08,000 --> 02:33:15,439 Hello, I'm Christian Schubel. I live in 3537 02:33:10,640 --> 02:33:19,280 W 2. Uh, I wanted to show you guys this. 3538 02:33:15,439 --> 02:33:24,399 You might recognize it. 3539 02:33:19,280 --> 02:33:27,120 This is Flock's logo. Uh, I work in 3540 02:33:24,399 --> 02:33:29,359 marketing, so maybe that's why I'm This 3541 02:33:27,120 --> 02:33:31,280 catches my attention. What I find 3542 02:33:29,359 --> 02:33:33,600 fascinating about this is if you didn't 3543 02:33:31,280 --> 02:33:37,359 know any better, you would think this 3544 02:33:33,600 --> 02:33:40,479 was Kashi or Patagonia or some all 3545 02:33:37,359 --> 02:33:42,880 natural brand good for the whole family, 3546 02:33:40,479 --> 02:33:46,720 but it's actually a surveillance 3547 02:33:42,880 --> 02:33:48,160 cameras, soon drones, and that tells me 3548 02:33:46,720 --> 02:33:50,000 a lot about how they want to be 3549 02:33:48,160 --> 02:33:52,080 perceived, and it makes me very 3550 02:33:50,000 --> 02:33:55,120 suspicious of them alongside all the 3551 02:33:52,080 --> 02:33:56,800 actions they've taken in recent years. 3552 02:33:55,120 --> 02:33:58,800 Um, a lot of people have made really 3553 02:33:56,800 --> 02:34:01,920 good points, so I don't want to belabor 3554 02:33:58,800 --> 02:34:05,680 those too much. Um, I did want to jump 3555 02:34:01,920 --> 02:34:08,080 to I was recently reading a speech from 3556 02:34:05,680 --> 02:34:11,520 2006. I fell down a wormhole in the 3557 02:34:08,080 --> 02:34:13,120 internet by Senator Widen. Uh, he was 3558 02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:14,880 talking about the careful balancing act 3559 02:34:13,120 --> 02:34:16,720 of protecting civil liberties while 3560 02:34:14,880 --> 02:34:18,720 fighting terrorism. 3561 02:34:16,720 --> 02:34:20,800 Uh he was explaining how there were 3562 02:34:18,720 --> 02:34:22,720 certain just in case mechanisms built in 3563 02:34:20,800 --> 02:34:25,600 to make sure we were checking back and 3564 02:34:22,720 --> 02:34:29,359 making sure we were safely approaching 3565 02:34:25,600 --> 02:34:30,960 this this uh tightroppe walk of checking 3566 02:34:29,359 --> 02:34:34,720 against civil liberties and fighting 3567 02:34:30,960 --> 02:34:36,160 terrorism. Uh he said if civil liberties 3568 02:34:34,720 --> 02:34:38,080 are not prominent in our thinking and 3569 02:34:36,160 --> 02:34:40,800 our governing our efforts could result 3570 02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:44,160 in the demise of the uniquely American 3571 02:34:40,800 --> 02:34:46,080 freedoms we seek to hope and maintain. 3572 02:34:44,160 --> 02:34:47,760 Now, our new surveillance technologies 3573 02:34:46,080 --> 02:34:50,399 aren't reserved terrorists. They're just 3574 02:34:47,760 --> 02:34:53,359 normal, mundane, day-to-day tools used 3575 02:34:50,399 --> 02:34:54,960 against American citizens without nearly 3576 02:34:53,359 --> 02:34:58,399 enough respect for the liberties at 3577 02:34:54,960 --> 02:35:00,080 risk, in my opinion. And uh like the 3578 02:34:58,399 --> 02:35:02,319 woman who spoke just before me said, 3579 02:35:00,080 --> 02:35:04,240 it's just getting started. This is just 3580 02:35:02,319 --> 02:35:06,560 the beginning. There's a lot more coming 3581 02:35:04,240 --> 02:35:08,319 down the pipeline. 3582 02:35:06,560 --> 02:35:11,359 uh as someone who grew up feeling very 3583 02:35:08,319 --> 02:35:13,920 optimistic about digital technologies 3584 02:35:11,359 --> 02:35:15,280 uh seeing it as seeing the internet as a 3585 02:35:13,920 --> 02:35:18,000 place where you can meet people from all 3586 02:35:15,280 --> 02:35:20,640 over the world learn all kinds of things 3587 02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:24,080 I feel like it's becoming completely 3588 02:35:20,640 --> 02:35:26,319 corrupted and purchased by people who 3589 02:35:24,080 --> 02:35:29,600 don't have people's best interest at 3590 02:35:26,319 --> 02:35:31,439 heart I do think the council here is is 3591 02:35:29,600 --> 02:35:35,120 different 3592 02:35:31,439 --> 02:35:37,120 um I think I'll just summarize by saying 3593 02:35:35,120 --> 02:35:39,760 I really think we should consider 3594 02:35:37,120 --> 02:35:42,080 modifying or cancelling our tract with 3595 02:35:39,760 --> 02:35:43,600 flock. Um, I also want to make a note 3596 02:35:42,080 --> 02:35:45,520 about state question 832. 3597 02:35:43,600 --> 02:35:47,680 » 30 seconds remaining. 3598 02:35:45,520 --> 02:35:48,880 » I'm going to read this real fast. Um, I 3599 02:35:47,680 --> 02:35:50,960 wanted to catch up with some of the 3600 02:35:48,880 --> 02:35:52,960 criticisms of why people didn't vote for 3601 02:35:50,960 --> 02:35:54,640 this because I am a supporter. One of 3602 02:35:52,960 --> 02:35:57,359 the criticisms was that it's connected 3603 02:35:54,640 --> 02:35:59,840 to the National Consumer Price Index. 3604 02:35:57,359 --> 02:36:02,880 Um, that made me wonder, well, what if 3605 02:35:59,840 --> 02:36:05,680 we had a local uh CPI, one for Oklahoma 3606 02:36:02,880 --> 02:36:07,439 City, uh, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, and 3607 02:36:05,680 --> 02:36:10,479 Milwaukee, who have less residents than 3608 02:36:07,439 --> 02:36:12,240 we do, all have their own CPI. If that 3609 02:36:10,479 --> 02:36:15,840 is one of the things that's preventing 3610 02:36:12,240 --> 02:36:17,359 us from coming up with a minimum wage 3611 02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:20,800 that 3612 02:36:17,359 --> 02:36:23,359 uh that is actually 3613 02:36:20,800 --> 02:36:25,840 won't cause stagnation among our 3614 02:36:23,359 --> 02:36:27,040 essential workers. Sorry, I've got so 3615 02:36:25,840 --> 02:36:29,359 much little time. I'm just trying to 3616 02:36:27,040 --> 02:36:32,399 rush it all in there at once. Um, I want 3617 02:36:29,359 --> 02:36:34,399 to say why I supported this. 33% of 3618 02:36:32,399 --> 02:36:36,160 Oklahomaans make less than $15 an hour. 3619 02:36:34,399 --> 02:36:38,399 They include caregivers, bus drivers, 3620 02:36:36,160 --> 02:36:40,720 janitors, retail workers, receptionists. 3621 02:36:38,399 --> 02:36:42,160 All these people deserve the dignity of 3622 02:36:40,720 --> 02:36:43,600 an independent family life where they 3623 02:36:42,160 --> 02:36:45,200 don't need to constantly worry about one 3624 02:36:43,600 --> 02:36:48,080 surprise upending all their hard work. 3625 02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:50,160 I've been there and I don't wish it upon 3626 02:36:48,080 --> 02:36:51,520 anyone who's still stuck there. I I 3627 02:36:50,160 --> 02:36:52,880 really hope we revisit this question 3628 02:36:51,520 --> 02:36:54,160 locally. Thank you. All 3629 02:36:52,880 --> 02:36:55,920 » Right. Thank you. That concludes 3630 02:36:54,160 --> 02:36:57,680 citizens to be heard. We will now go to 3631 02:36:55,920 --> 02:37:02,280 the executive session we previously 3632 02:36:57,680 --> 02:37:02,280 approved and then we will return. Thank 3633 03:03:08,160 --> 03:03:12,160 We have concluded our executive session 3634 03:03:10,319 --> 03:03:15,720 and returned for item 14 adjournment. 3635 03:03:12,160 --> 03:03:15,720 And we are adjourned.