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Good morning. We're going to get started

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this morning with an invocation led by

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Pastor Ren Schuffman of Freedom

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Fellowship Church. And that'll be

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followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led

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by Levi Maline Asher and Hannah Pek

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representing Scouting America Troops 177

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and 6177.

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Please stand as you are able. Uh it's an

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honor to be with you guys again.

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Let me pray.

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Heavenly Father, creator of the

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universe. Lord, we thank you and we

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beseech you this day. Father, would you

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help lead these men and women as they

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lead our great city? Father, the word

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says that what I bless is blessed and

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what I curse is cursed. And so today, I

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speak blessing over this council, over

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their leadership, over this city. Lord,

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as we step into a year where we

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celebrate 250 years as a nation,

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Lord, by men who put you first, by

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leaders who sought your voice, your

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counsel, and your wisdom, Lord, would

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that be the standard again? Would that

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be the call that your wisdom, your will,

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your plan for our city, would be

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adopted,

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would be uh uh carried. Father, Lord,

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would heaven reign on earth here through

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our leadership? Would you give them wise

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counsel? Would you give them uh great

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plans? Would you give them uh future

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vision, Lord, to see how great our city

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could be? That this city would be an

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example to the nation, Lord. that our

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values,

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that our systems,

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that our hearts are to be followed, that

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it would be a standard for our nation.

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Lord, would you bless every area of our

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government, Lord, as the kingdom of

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heaven rules and reigns in this place,

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Lord? Let it not be the kingdom of man,

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but Lord, let it be your kingdom that

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governs this great nation. Your favor

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that causes us to be blessed, that we

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would be a people set apart that people

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would know your love

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and your compassion in action by the way

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that you move through this city, Lord.

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that others would look and say somehow

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every storm that comes they weather and

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they come out more favored. Father I

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bless this meeting with wisdom Lord that

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your plans are done in the mighty name

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of Jesus. Amen.

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Please join us in the pledge of

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allegiance.

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» You may be seated.

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» Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Chefman.

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Thank you, Levi, Matteline, Asher, and

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Hannah.

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All right, I call this meeting of the

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city council to order. And we have uh a

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presentation to make. Item 3A under

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office of the mayor. And I'll make my

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way to the front for that. And Brooklyn,

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please join me.

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Brooklyn, you are our employee of the

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month and so we would love to learn a

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little bit more about you and so I'd ask

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the clerk to read this resolution.

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» Whereas Brooklyn Rogers has been a city

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employee for 21 years and serves as

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administrative specialist for the

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general services department. And whereas

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Brooklyn consistently demonstrates

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outstanding teamwork and dedication in

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supporting the accounts payable team

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through timely followup, thorough

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research, and dependable assistance on a

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wide variety of matters.

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And whereas Brooklyn takes ownership of

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every concern brought to her, responding

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promptly, accurately, and with a

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commitment to finding effective

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solutions. And whereas Brooklyn recently

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went above and beyond while assisting

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with a vendor statement by carefully

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identifying each item in question and

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determining the appropriate department,

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providing clarity where documentation

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was incomplete. And whereas Brooklyn's

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attention to detail, reliability, and

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willingness to exceed expectations have

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strengthened the accounts payable team's

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ability to serve city departments and

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vendors efficiently.

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And whereas Brooklyn is widely

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recognized by her co-workers as a

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trusted, dependable, and valued team

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member whose professionalism and

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positive attitude contribute to the

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success of the department. Now,

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therefore, be it resolved by the mayor

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and council of the city of Oklahoma City

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that they do hereby thank and commend

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Brooklyn Rogers July 2026 South Oklahoma

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City Kanas Club employee of the month.

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Well, thank you. Well, uh, Brooklyn,

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we're so grateful for your service as

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one of the 5,000 greatest city employees

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in the country, and we'd love to, uh, I

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think as a council commemorate that with

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passage of this resolution. So, let's

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see if we can get a motion in a second.

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Is that coming along?

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I don't see anything. Is it Is we have a

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motion in a second?

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» Yes.

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» Okay. I wish to vote. I cast your votes.

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» You'll have to let me know.

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» Passed. All right. We're going to take

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the word for it, Brooklyn. We think it

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passed.

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» Um, well, now you said you maybe don't

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want to give like a whole speech, and I

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I said, "Can I just hold the microphone

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and you say thank you?" How does that

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sound? Deal.

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» Deal.

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» All right.

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» I would.

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» Oh. Oh, there's more coming out than

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just thinking. There you go. You've

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warmed up. All right. Here you go,

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Brooklyn.

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» Okay. Thank you. I'm so overwhelmed.

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Um, but thanks for my co-workers. Thanks

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for showing up for me. Thank you for

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making it easy to go to work. And I've

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been in four departments and stuff and

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but I think general services is long

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good. So, I I've been at So, thank you

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very much. Thanks to accounts payable

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for nominating me or something. And

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[laughter]

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thank you.

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» Awesome. I knew you could do it. Let's

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hear for Brooklyn. [applause]

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All right, we're still on office of the

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mayor. Um, I have a significant number

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of appointments today. Customarily, I

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might shout out the boards that are

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affected. That may be um impractical

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today, but it's items B through AJ. um

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dozens of uh boards affected by these

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appointments today. Now, there is one

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I'd like to pull out for a separate vote

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um just because of a uh family

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relationship that one of our council

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members have. And so, let's vote on item

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3R, the appointments to the Metropolitan

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Library Commission first. If we could

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just get a motion on that one.

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Have a motion and a second. cast your

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votes.

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Passes unanimously. Now the rest, if uh

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there are no questions or comments,

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would be items B through Q and S through

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AJ as a group.

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Have a motion in a second. Cast your

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votes.

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passes unanimously and um thank you for

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your contributions to some of these with

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nominations and there'll probably be not

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maybe quite as many but quite a few

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coming up on August 18th as well. Um all

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right then we have um

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let's see okay this is for Al. All

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right. So, we have a travel. This is

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item AK. This is a resolution approving

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travel expenses for me to attend the

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LA28 summer local leaders roundt meeting

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in Long Beach on August 20th. We could

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take a motion on that.

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» We have a motion and a second. Cast your

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votes.

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Passes unanimously.

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Um, and then we have item A. This is a

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resolution approving travel expenses for

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me to attend the 2026 mayors and police

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chiefs meeting on September 24th as well

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as the uh US Conference of Mayors fall

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leadership meeting on September 24th

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through 26th in San Diego. Now, we do

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have someone who signed up to speak

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Namu.

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Um hello.

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So, I actually originally came here for

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the flock contract renewal, and I know

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that's been moved, but I also saw this

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on the agenda. I feel like people there

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at this conference, uh, there's going to

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be a lot of people there, a lot of

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vendors there that weren't our distrust,

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right? I don't understand why you really

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need to go to this, uh, especially right

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now where there's a lot of tension

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considering a flock vote renewal. It's

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already expired. I don't understand why

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you're like continuing to delay this

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Oh, sorry. excuse my language, but

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why are you continuing to delay this?

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Um, going to this is kind of a slap in

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the face to the uh Oklahoma public. I'm

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real concerned about what you're going

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to quotequote learn from this

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conference. I don't really respect that

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at all. We're very frustrated with this

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uh flock renewal and we're very

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frustrated with what this conference

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could potentially lead towards, what

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technologies

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um I keep seeing stuff pop up

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everywhere.

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surveillance devices. I don't know why

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you're smiling at me. Um, is it

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entertaining? Real entertaining, huh?

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I'm very frustrated with this. A lot of

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people in my neighborhood are frustrated

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with the rise of surveillance devices.

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This conference, I feel, is a moment

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where you can learn how to use more of

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this stuff, more contracts, how to worm

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your way through this stuff. I am very

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upset about this.

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That's all I have to say.

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» All right. Thank you. We're on item AL

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and we can take a motion in a second.

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We have a motion to second. Cast your

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votes.

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Passes 8 to one and with the necessary

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six affirmative votes. Uh item four

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items from council. We have a couple of

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travel resolutions here as well. Item 4

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A is a resolution approving expenses for

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council members Carter and Stonecipher

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to attend the National League of Cities

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in Nashville in November. Take a motion

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on that.

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A motion in a second. Cast your votes.

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passes 8 to1 and with the necessary six

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affirmative votes. Item 4B is a

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resolution approving travel expenses for

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Councilman Carter to attend OML annual

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conference in Tulsa in September.

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A motion and a second. Cast your votes.

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Passes unanimously. Um item five, city

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manager reports. Mr. City Manager,

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» Thank you, mayor. Uh we do have the

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sales and use tax report on uh for this

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morning. This is our first uh sales tax

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check for the year for the fiscal year.

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Started off very strong. We had 4.8%

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growth in sales tax. Um we had 28%

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growth in use tax. Uh I want to

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acknowledge that there was a correction

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that was made last year for the first

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five months of the year. Uh there was a

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vendor that was being remitted to the

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wrong city that got corrected. Uh I

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think it was either November or

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December. So we'll see that offset

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through this first part of the year.

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However, even when you when you adjust

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for that, it's still 17% growth in use

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tax. You just remember that use tax, we

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see a lot of variation. There was one

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major vendor that was recatategorized to

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another category that's now remitting

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use tax that previously was categorized

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as a service uh sector. So there's that

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may continue on for a few months that we

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may see that still. Uh so we'll continue

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to monitor that. It's a really good

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start overall $1.7 billion above target

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in month number one. I will caveat just

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a little bit that in the next month

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we've got preliminary sales tax numbers

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and it looks like sales tax is down by

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about 5.7%

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next month. But you remember that the

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finals, the NBA finals in the

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championship last year really strongly

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affected our August of last year. I

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think it was somewhere around 12% growth

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last year. So that again is an anomaly

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that's in the data. It will look like

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it's down. We'll just watch this over

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the first two, three months and see what

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the trends tend to be, but it's a great

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start alto together. Anyway, um and then

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we have claims and payroll and that can

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be found on OKC.gov. And that's all that

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I have.

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» Thank you. [clears throat] Excuse me.

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Item six, journal of council

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proceedings. We have items A and B. We

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could take with one motion.

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The motion in a second. Cast your votes.

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[clears throat]

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Passes unanimously. Item seven, request

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for uncontested continuences. Mr. City

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Manager,

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» We have several items on today. The

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first item is on page seven. This is

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item seven. I'm sorry, this is item 9A.

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This is the flock contract. We're going

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to strike this item and we'll bring it

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back at the next meeting. We have to

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make an adjustment to We did not get the

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amended language that we had agreed to.

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We did not get that amended language

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onto the agenda. We got to make sure

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we've got that on there. So, we'll bring

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that item back at the next meeting. Um,

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and then on item 11 X,

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» I'm sorry, 9X

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on page nine, we're going to strike that

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item, bring that back at a later date.

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Item

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11 C on page 19 is PUD 21105. That'll be

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deferred to the 18th of August.

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Continuing on page 20, item 11D,

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this is PUD 2124. That also will be

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deferred to the 18th of August. Then on

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page 23, item 11P1, unsecured

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structures. All of these items will be

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stricken from the agenda. Item B, 4545

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Kenyon Drive, the owner has secured.

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Item F, 737 Southwest 48th Street, the

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owner has secured. And item G, 8405

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Southwest 49th 49th Circle, the owner

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has secured. And that's all the items

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that I have.

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» All right,

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we'll now recess the council and convene

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as the Oklahoma City Municipal

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Facilities Authority. We do have someone

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who has signed up to speak on item B on

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this docket. Steve Hunt,

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[clears throat]

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Steve Hunt, 6300 Westbrook. Um, give me

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just a second here. I'm a little

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unprepared today.

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Okay. So,

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Una Solutions Incorporated uh for the

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Uni Budget Pro Enterprise Budgeting

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Platform, a cloud-based software SAS

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offering including software

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subscriptions, etc., etc., $890,000

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minimum. Um, a reporter friend about 10

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days ago messaged me and said, "Hey,

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there. Do you know of any private equity

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firms uh monitoring streets on school

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buses to find violations and then giving

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them splitting ticket revenues with

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municipalities 6040?" I'm like, "Is that

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bus patrol?" And they're like, "Yeah,

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that's bus patrol." And then we go on

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and we're like, "They're owned by GI

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Partners Private Equity." And um, let's

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see if there's anything else. Okay, fast

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forward to uh Friday. I pick up my

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agenda and then I see Uni Solutions um

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another SAS that we're given a huge

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contract to and I look them up and

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they're owned by uh GI Partners, the

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people that do bus patrol, the flock

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camera style [snorts] school bus

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monitoring um thing. And as I read into

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the uh the contract and the details of

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Uni Solutions budget pro enterprise

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budgeting platform which is basically a

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glorified excel spreadsheet that we give

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a million dollars to. They use the same

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AI systems that they use with bus patrol

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which as I said is school buses with

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flock style cameras on them. And as I

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dug in more and more to this contract,

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it was pretty awful. On their website,

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they brag about it uh reducing freedom

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of information requests 50%.

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I mean, like, okay, so he we're giving a

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million dollars to these ghouls, these

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these bus patrol guy, and bus patrol is

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the revived corpse of another company,

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uh, Force Multiplier, which was a part

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of the biggest scandal in Dallas

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municipal history. You can look it up.

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It was 2017. Um, and a lot of the same

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actors still work for them. Um, you

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know, I talk a lot about this stuff and

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there's so much to it. You know, it

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takes a sentence to tell a lie and 10

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minutes to debunk it. And the reality of

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these equity firms is that they are

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using recovery money to buy all these

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companies. Uh, Zer policy, quantitative

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easing, all that money supposed to be

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used

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» For us is actually used to buy up all

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these companies. and UNIA Solutions. I

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mean, I don't know if anyone looked at

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it. Uh, I got deep into the contract.

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Uh, item 29 in the contract talks about

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how they cut down on freedom of

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information requests. Their AI goes

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through everything and puts things into

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lockboxes and if a citizen requests it,

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there's a 7-day process with the courts.

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So, um, I normally speak just for the

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people out in channel 20 land on YouTube

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because I know you all kind of I mean,

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no offense, but I'd like for you to

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consider because the uh quest for

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proposals, there were nine others that

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actually looked.

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» So, we're on the MFA docket and we have

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items A through N. We could take with

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one motion.

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A motion and a second. Cast your votes.

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passes unanimously. Now we'll adjourn

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OCMFA and convene as the Oklahoma City

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Public Property Authority. Um we do have

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uh someone who signed up to speak on

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item E, Brittney Grant.

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» Good morning, council. My name is

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Britney Grant. I'm the president of the

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East End Historic District and

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underneath Councilman Kamal Pennington

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in Ward 7. I just want to continue to

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thank you for your commitment in

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investing in our corridor to make it

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more vibrant and welcoming. Um so, and

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thank you for continuing to be a great

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partner for with us in the Northeast

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Historic District.

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» Thank you.

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» Uh on item F, we have Rachel Crawford.

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Good morning, city council. I'm Rachel

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Crawford, executive director with the

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Plaza District, and I just wanted to

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take a moment to tell you thank you so

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much for the city's support through the

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commercial district revitalization

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program of the Plaza District. Wasn't

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too long ago that in maybe a decade ago,

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the Plaza District had, if we're

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counting everybody that's even on the

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outliers, about 20 businesses. Today, we

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have 65 businesses in counting within a

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threeb block stretch. Um, to my

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estimates, we've increased market value

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by about 300% over the last five or six

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years. We do an annual report that we

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survey our business owners and ask them,

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you know, how many people do you have

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employed? Um, how are things going? And

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we have two nonprofits that help make

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all of the work possible for what puts

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us on the map as a great destination in

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in Oklahoma City. Um, to my estimates,

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out of those 65 businesses, we generate

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around 1.7 to 2 million in sales tax

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revenue. So, I just wanted to come here

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today to personally say thank you so

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much. This funding has a tremendous

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impact, helps keep a lot of businesses

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open because it allows us to do what we

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do best, which is hosting events and

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supporting small business owners. Um, so

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I just wanted to say thank you so much.

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» Any big events coming soon?

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» Yes, actually, uh, next Friday, Skate

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the Plaza. It's from 5 to 10 p.m. We

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estimate about 8,000 people will be

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there. Um, just in case there are other

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event organizers wondering how do we do

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it financially, um, we've invested about

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$2,000 in the event to bring 8,000

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people to the district, which is a

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pretty great return. And then if you're

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free, um, September 26th, we have Plaza

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Wells Mural Expo and Plaza District

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Festival. It's the 27th year, so I

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invite you all to come and check it out.

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Thank you.

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» And Rachel, before you leave, um, I just

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want to thank you. you um have invited

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me the last few years to the state of

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the plaza event that you all host and

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this year I believe is talking about

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your annual report. You you shared what

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your annual operating budget is and I

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was kind of floored by by the amount

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because of how much how many events you

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put on, how much activity you all have

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generated. Can you share that with

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everyone here what your annual operating

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budget is?

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» Yeah, the annual operating budget I've

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got to add it between both nonprofits.

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Um, we're looking at about $220,000

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annual operating budget, and that covers

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one full-time employee, me, and two

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part-time, one for marketing assistance

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and event support, and the other for

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groundskeeping and maintenance. So, we

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do on average most of our block parties,

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we produce for about five or $600, which

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draws in,

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» I don't know, anywhere from four or

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5,000 people for a small one or 14

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15,000 for a large one.

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» Yeah. I just was like floored cuz I was

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like, "Oh, surely they have like a

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million dollar, you know, like they're

539
00:45:42,319 --> 00:45:47,040
doing so much." And that I think that

540
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,119
just is a testament to how efficient you

541
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,880
all are with and and how many volunteers

542
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:52,319
you all engage through your board. Your

543
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,880
board is very active from what I

544
00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:58,240
understand. And so the ability to really

545
00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:02,240
um you know, put on all these events and

546
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:04,000
um I think just goes to show how um how

547
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:05,599
much like love people are putting into

548
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,839
the district. So,

549
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:10,160
» Thank you. And we are always looking for

550
00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:10,880
board members and volunteers. So if

551
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,760
you're interested

552
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,319
» And maybe sponsorships

553
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,800
» Director plaza district.org.

554
00:46:14,319 --> 00:46:20,000
» Um may I [clears throat] have two notes

555
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:22,319
on that. First a note of gratitude. I

556
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,119
believe it's the anniversary uh for you

557
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:25,760
recently of uh several years serving in

558
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:28,400
this role.

559
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,599
» Yeah. July 29th is 5 years as executive

560
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,720
director of the Plaza District.

561
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,240
» Congratulations. I thought I saw

562
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:34,000
something on Instagram like that. So I

563
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:36,079
appreciate your service. On

564
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:39,280
Councilwoman's note, and I believe I've

565
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:40,880
mentioned this before, um, and so I'm

566
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,119
gonna ask everyone up here to think a

567
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,920
little bit outside the box. Um, you

568
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:49,040
know, there was a time, I want to say

569
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:51,359
2008, when I was in grad school in Still

570
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,680
Water and I would come down to visit

571
00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:55,839
friends here and I saw the improvements

572
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,079
to the Western Avenue district, the

573
00:46:55,839 --> 00:46:59,680
infrastructure improvements that really

574
00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:01,599
slowed traffic down enough where people

575
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,160
started saying, "Wait, I'm going to

576
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:05,920
maybe go to this restaurant, go to this

577
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,520
store."

578
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,440
Right? It was like the main street

579
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:12,240
revitalization

580
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:14,240
beginning, right?

581
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:16,160
We're now in a place where we have so

582
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:19,040
many successful commercial districts

583
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:21,920
that are tourist destinations that are

584
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:24,000
destinations for our own people. And I

585
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,760
think my outside the box ask here

586
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,240
building on the numbers we just heard

587
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,960
from Rachel and Councilwoman is I would

588
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:32,880
ask the city to start thinking about

589
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,319
what does

590
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:39,839
better investing in the economic

591
00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:42,000
vitality when it comes to their budgets,

592
00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:44,240
their operating budgets. How many staff

593
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,720
did you say like paid staff?

594
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:48,960
» Uh three. Two part-time and one

595
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:52,000
full-time. So

596
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:56,000
these three paid folk, two part-time,

597
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:58,800
right, are putting on events that are

598
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:03,119
getting national recognition. The mural,

599
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:06,480
I mean, good lord. And I I just would

600
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:07,920
want us to start thinking less about the

601
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,680
big businesses out there that we could

602
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,319
be investing in to bring here, which we

603
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:16,000
have, but what happens when we invest in

604
00:48:12,319 --> 00:48:17,440
our main streets all across Oklahoma

605
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,920
City, whether it's Capitol Hill,

606
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,280
Stockyard, FO Plaza, Uptown, 39th

607
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,319
Street, Britain District, Windsor

608
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:27,200
District, and really said that, hey, you

609
00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:29,280
all have I'm so sorry if I left out. of

610
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:32,079
course know there are more uh but that's

611
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:34,319
kind of my point. There are so many

612
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:37,119
successful, thriving districts in our

613
00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:39,520
city um where we've invested in their

614
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:42,880
infrastructure after decades of

615
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,400
disinvestment. And I just would really

616
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,640
encourage us to think about and I'm

617
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:49,599
going to keep beating the drum. Um what

618
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,040
would not not just throwing money at

619
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:52,640
these districts but really sitting down

620
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,839
with the district leaders and saying

621
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:57,760
what do you need to ensure that of

622
00:48:55,839 --> 00:49:01,520
course we want volunteers but we want to

623
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:04,720
make sure you are viable sustainable uh

624
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:06,800
enduring because it's a sales tax

625
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:08,800
revenue generator for this city when

626
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:12,240
people are going to the different

627
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:14,480
merchants um who took a chance on these

628
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:15,760
districts and I just think that's very

629
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,280
important especially especially because

630
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,160
what we're doing then is also invest in

631
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:22,079
investing in local people, local workers

632
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,800
doing this work from adventure district

633
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:27,680
out to the stockyard. So that's really a

634
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,599
thing I want us to be thinking about um

635
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,680
and council as well. I just I'm so

636
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:35,119
impressed with the work, but I also know

637
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:37,280
I've seen you all stressed and that's a

638
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:38,960
very human response to the work you're

639
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,800
doing and I just would like to see us

640
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,400
think a little bit deeper about that. So

641
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,680
thank you again for your five years and

642
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,559
thank you for your service.

643
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,559
» Thank you.

644
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:53,920
Thank you. Now we can proceed to the

645
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:56,920
vote on the PPA agenda items A through

646
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,920
I.

647
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:03,240
Have a motion and a second. Cast your

648
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:03,240
votes.

649
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:11,119
Passes unanimously.

650
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,920
All right. Right. Now, we'll adjourn

651
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:16,960
OCPA and reconvene as the council where

652
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,880
we are on item nine, the consent docket.

653
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,880
Um, there are no items currently

654
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,480
scheduled for a presentation. Uh, two

655
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,760
have been struck as previously

656
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:27,599
indicated. Is there um any item that a

657
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,760
council member wishes to pull out for a

658
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:32,760
separate vote or separate comment or

659
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,760
question?

660
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,319
hearing. None. We'll take a motion on

661
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:42,240
the consent docket. Items A through CP

662
00:50:40,319 --> 00:50:44,640
or actually B through CP. A was

663
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:48,520
previously struck. We have a motion and

664
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,520
a second. Cast your votes.

665
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:52,880
Passes unanimously. Now we're on item

666
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:55,040
10, the concurrence docket. We have

667
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:58,280
items A through P. We could take with

668
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,280
one motion.

669
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:05,640
A motion and a second. Cast your votes.

670
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:12,960
passes unanimously. Item 11 A, we're on

671
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,800
item 11, which is items for individual

672
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,240
consideration. Item 11 A is an ordinance

673
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,520
on final hearing recommended for

674
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:23,200
approval resoning 1636 Southwest 35th

675
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:24,800
from R1 to C3. Uh, Councilwoman Hammond,

676
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,800
no one is signed to speak, and that

677
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,839
statement is true for all of the zoning

678
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:31,119
cases today.

679
00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:35,200
» Okay. Um I will this was um a recommend

680
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:37,200
for approval by planning uh staff and uh

681
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:41,319
unanimous support by the planning

682
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,319
commission. So I will move for approval.

683
00:51:46,319 --> 00:51:50,920
We have a motion and a second. Cast your

684
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,920
votes.

685
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,240
Passes unanimously.

686
00:51:58,319 --> 00:52:03,760
Oh, I don't know what's going on there,

687
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,960
but this is working. So, 11B uh is an

688
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,880
ordinance on final hearing. It was

689
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:12,079
recommended for approval reszoning 25

690
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:13,680
southwest 50th from SPUD 1448 to R2.

691
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:15,839
Councilman Stone, known as signed to

692
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,359
speak, uh although someone has signed up

693
00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:18,720
to speak for a much later case and I

694
00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:20,000
will bring that up at that time, but

695
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:23,200
yours is clear. Go ahead.

696
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:26,400
» All right. Thank you, mayor. Um this is

697
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:29,040
basically a single residential

698
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:32,480
duplex uh development overrun 50th in

699
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:34,400
Santa Fe. So uh

700
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,680
city nodded for its approval as well as

701
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,480
the planning commission. So I'll go

702
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,480
ahead and move for its approval.

703
00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:50,200
All right, we have a motion and a

704
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,200
second. Cast your votes.

705
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:56,800
passes unanimously. Items C and D were

706
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:00,160
previously struck, which brings us to

707
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:01,280
item E. Um item E2 is an ordinance on

708
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,839
final hearing that was recommended for

709
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:08,960
approval resoning 4200 Southwest 29th

710
00:53:03,839 --> 00:53:11,119
from I2 and AE2 to PUD 2134 and AE2. Um

711
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:14,000
item E1 is an amendment to the master

712
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:16,640
design statement relative uh to this

713
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:19,359
item. This item was deferred uh on three

714
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:23,480
previous occasions and councilwoman

715
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:23,480
avers no one assigned to speak.

716
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,800
» Um Mark, if you want to present the

717
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,960
amendments.

718
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,480
» Sure. Uh good morning. Mark Zitzau with

719
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,559
Johnson and Associates. Address is one

720
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,119
Sheran Avenue. Uh this is a a multif

721
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:37,599
family project uh at Meridian and 29th

722
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:41,040
Street. Uh in addition to the amendments

723
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:43,760
that were just uh noticed, we're going

724
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:46,079
to add two additional TEES uh to the

725
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,160
project. The first one is replacing the

726
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:50,160
fencing language. And so just for

727
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:53,599
simplicity, I'll just I'll read it in in

728
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:55,680
its entirety. No less than an 8 foot

729
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:58,160
high sight proof fence shall be required

730
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,160
along the east, west, and south boundary

731
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,640
PUB boundaries and shall not be required

732
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,559
along Southwest 29th. said sight proof

733
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,400
screen should be a horizontal aluminum

734
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:09,119
fence and shall be reviewed at the

735
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,280
specific plan stage. The second TE that

736
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:13,119
our client agreed to would be

737
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,880
notifications requiring nearby

738
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:18,319
industrial operations will be included

739
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:20,400
in leasing documents.

740
00:54:18,319 --> 00:54:24,000
» Happy to answer any questions.

741
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:26,079
» Thank you. Um so this is a a development

742
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,400
that is had required a comp plan

743
00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:30,640
amendment. So, we added added some tees

744
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:33,520
to address potential compatibility

745
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:37,280
issues both for the the new residents as

746
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:40,079
well as the existing neighbors. And I do

747
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,839
I need to make a motion to amend and

748
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:43,920
then do a motion to approve. Okay. So,

749
00:54:41,839 --> 00:54:47,839
I'd like to make a motion to accept the

750
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:49,599
amendments as read by Mark.

751
00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:50,480
» I'm sorry, what was the what was the

752
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:54,640
statement? You

753
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,760
» Motion to amend um the TEES as read by

754
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,440
the applicant.

755
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:00,240
» Okay. Okay. So, this is in addition to

756
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:02,240
E1, right? This is a

757
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:04,640
» All right. We've got that motion. Why

758
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:07,359
don't we bring it up for a

759
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,720
virtual motion?

760
00:55:07,359 --> 00:55:10,800
And I don't know. Is that what's showing

761
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:12,480
on the other side as well? Okay.

762
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,640
» So, if I can get a second.

763
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:17,280
» Oh, we're not working either.

764
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:20,000
» Okay. All right. So, we need a verbal

765
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,760
second. We've got a verbal motion.

766
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,200
» And then you said we can raise hands on

767
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,680
the votes.

768
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,559
» Yes.

769
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:28,319
» Okay.

770
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:31,440
» All right. So, uh, all in favor of the

771
00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:34,319
amendment just moved, please raise your

772
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:36,960
hand.

773
00:55:34,319 --> 00:55:38,160
» Okay. Um, it's self-evident that all

774
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:41,119
hands were raised, so I won't even call

775
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,559
for a nay. Um, passes unanimously. And

776
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:44,000
that leaves us with

777
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:46,000
» A motion to approve.

778
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,599
» You want to do E1, the amendment to the

779
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,880
master design statement.

780
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:50,079
» Or was that do I

781
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,839
» Have to do them separately?

782
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:53,760
» I don't know. I got I wasn't clear if

783
00:55:51,839 --> 00:55:54,880
that was I got the impression that was a

784
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,319
different amendment. what you just

785
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,440
proposed. So that you still want the

786
00:55:56,319 --> 00:55:58,160
amendment to the master design.

787
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:58,960
» Yes, sir.

788
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,599
» Okay.

789
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,440
» Thank you.

790
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:03,359
» All right. So this is uh so we have a

791
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,839
motion. Is there a second for E1?

792
00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:05,119
» Second.

793
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:09,440
» All right. We have a motion and a

794
00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:12,240
second. All in favor raise your hand.

795
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:15,920
» All right. All unanimous. Passes

796
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:17,520
unanimously. Now we're on E2. Do you

797
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,520
wish to make a motion for that? Council

798
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,520
eliminators.

799
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,839
» Yes. Motion to approve, please.

800
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:27,520
» All right. Second.

801
00:56:25,839 --> 00:56:32,480
» We have a motion and a second. All in

802
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:34,960
favor of item E2, raise your hand.

803
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:38,480
» All right. Passes unanimously.

804
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:40,880
Okay. Working so far.

805
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,400
Item uh F is an ordinance on final

806
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:46,480
hearing. It was recommended for approval

807
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:48,799
resoning 10324 Southwest 29th from R1 to

808
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,400
PUD2143A.

809
00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:51,359
Councilwoman Avers. No one has signed up

810
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,040
to speak.

811
00:56:51,359 --> 00:56:54,799
» Thank you. This was excellently

812
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:58,440
coordinated in advance of application.

813
00:56:54,799 --> 00:56:58,440
So motion to approve.

814
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,799
» I'm sorry. Did you say you move it?

815
00:56:59,839 --> 00:57:03,680
» Motion to approve.

816
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:04,160
» All right. Is there a second?

817
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,319
» Second.

818
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:09,040
» Got a motion and a second. All in favor,

819
00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:11,040
raise your hand.

820
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,760
» Passes unanimously.

821
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,119
Item G is an ordinance on final hearing.

822
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:18,960
It was recommended for approval.

823
00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:21,440
Reszoning 2844 Lancaster Lane from R1 to

824
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,520
SPD 1816.

825
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,000
Uh, Councilman Cooper, no assigned to

826
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,240
speak.

827
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:30,000
» Yes, but the applicant is here, right? I

828
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:32,400
would like to have a bit of a public

829
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:35,400
understanding of this reasonzoning,

830
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,400
please.

831
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:42,000
Morning. David Box, 525 Northwest 11th

832
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,839
Street. Here on behalf of the applicant,

833
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,079
this is one uh that we actually went to

834
00:57:43,839 --> 00:57:47,280
planning commission twice. Uh my client

835
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:49,200
during the appendency of this

836
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,760
application was able to acquire the

837
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,599
balance of the land to square this off.

838
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,920
So uh worked extensively with

839
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:58,079
Commissioner Powers on this. It's really

840
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,319
if you if you think of May Avenue north

841
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:03,119
of 63rd Street, this is really the last

842
00:58:00,319 --> 00:58:06,160
piece of non-commercial property. Um so

843
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:08,720
we've limited uses, we have limited uh

844
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,319
impacts through speaker box separation,

845
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,480
landscape buffers, and building

846
00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:14,079
setbacks. Uh there was no protest and

847
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:16,319
was recommended for approval unanimously

848
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:20,839
by planning commission.

849
00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:20,839
» Can we go back to that screen please?

850
00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:25,319
» Okay.

851
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:34,160
Well, I'm glad to see the parking not so

852
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,960
prioritized at the front of May like

853
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,960
that. I think that's that's good. So,

854
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,400
it's an improvement on what I often see

855
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,599
over there. All right. Well, I'll move

856
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:46,079
for approval. Do I need to do that

857
00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:46,880
verbally? Are we back to screens?

858
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:49,920
» Okay.

859
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:52,319
» Oh, we might be working again. Go ahead.

860
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:54,160
» Something about W two.

861
00:58:52,319 --> 00:58:54,880
» We don't see anything on our side of

862
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,480
things at that.

863
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,480
» All right. Well, we have a motion in a

864
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:01,960
second. Cast your votes. We'll let you

865
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,960
know how it ends.

866
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,760
» Okay.

867
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,200
All right. Passes unanimously. Thank

868
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:22,160
you.

869
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,440
» Okay. Now we're on item uh H. This is an

870
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,520
ordinance on final hearing. It was

871
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:29,359
recommended for approval reszoning 3000

872
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:34,720
Northwest 150th from SPD848

873
00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:36,799
and PUD 302 to SPUD1 1831.

874
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,920
Councilman Stone Cipher known as sign of

875
00:59:36,799 --> 00:59:40,000
speech.

876
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,680
Planning approved. I'm aware of no

877
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,079
protesters. So, at this time, I'd move

878
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,440
for approval. And by the way, your

879
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:47,599
honor, on the next item, I'm going to

880
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:50,599
have to recuse on behalf of my firm.

881
00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:50,599
» Okay.

882
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,520
Have a motion, a second. Cast your

883
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,520
votes.

884
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,640
No,

885
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,640
» We can vote here. This good enough for

886
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:15,200
» Passes unanimously.

887
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,640
All right. Now we're on item I. This is

888
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,520
an ordinance on final hearing. It was

889
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:24,240
recommended for approval reszoning 3131

890
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:27,520
Northwest 192nd from 01 to SPD 1840.

891
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:29,760
This was deferred on July 21st. And

892
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:32,240
Councilman Carter, I understand uh you

893
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:34,240
will handle this item. Um and no one

894
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,920
assigned actually. Yes, sir.

895
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,400
» Scratch that. Tom Bowling has signed up

896
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,839
to speak. I don't know his status with

897
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,359
this project.

898
01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:41,839
» Are you the applicant?

899
01:00:41,359 --> 01:00:42,880
» Excuse me.

900
01:00:41,839 --> 01:00:43,440
» Are you the applicant?

901
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,079
» No.

902
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,079
» Oh, okay.

903
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:46,400
» He's the one that you just called.

904
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:46,640
» Yeah.

905
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,400
» Yeah.

906
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,400
» But I mean, are you Tom Bowling? Are you

907
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,119
the applicant or are you protesting?

908
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,640
» I'm protesting.

909
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:53,920
» Oh, okay. So, maybe we want to hear from

910
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,280
the applicant first

911
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,200
» Since he's here. Let's listen to him

912
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,160
first. David will go with you next. All

913
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,839
right. Am

914
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:03,880
» I up here too early?

915
01:00:59,839 --> 01:01:03,880
» Go ahead. You have three minutes.

916
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,680
trying to see a picture come up and you

917
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:08,720
got a picture of the

918
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,640
» Oh, uh, maybe.

919
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,160
» Okay. what what I should have done since

920
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,520
I don't know what I'm doing. I guess you

921
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,960
could say [laughter] we've got a

922
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,839
development going on the west side of

923
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:20,000
the property and we're protesting this

924
01:01:17,839 --> 01:01:22,079
because when we started building these

925
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,880
homes right across the fence to the

926
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:26,559
west, they're nicer homes, high energy

927
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,040
efficient

928
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:32,240
and now all a sudden here they're coming

929
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:34,960
in with these twotory duplexes that was

930
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,799
going to be twotory office buildings.

931
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,359
people that won't have no privacy at

932
01:01:36,799 --> 01:01:41,680
night for the swimming pool. Everybody

933
01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:43,599
with nicer homes are want swimming pools

934
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,920
in their backyards. Well, if they build

935
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:48,240
a swimming pool in the backyard, these

936
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:52,119
people in their twotory duplexes and be

937
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,119
overlooking the swimming pool.

938
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,720
So,

939
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:59,119
how can we end up helping these people

940
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:01,119
keep their privacy

941
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:03,520
over this?

942
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:04,960
I heard that uh everybody's tried to get

943
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,040
them to build a little bit higher

944
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,880
quality duplexes, which I appreciate

945
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,599
that because we got restrictions on our

946
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,760
property. Also,

947
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:16,079
if there's any way we can keep the

948
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:18,960
duplexes from having windows on the west

949
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:21,520
side of the building or even ask them to

950
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:23,119
put in a taller fence.

951
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,880
You know, we can't stop people from

952
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:28,160
building what the city allows them to

953
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:30,720
build, but we've already got five homes

954
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,400
being built. are already built in this

955
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,480
area

956
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,799
trying to sell them and now we end up

957
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:40,760
having the twotory duplexes come in.

958
01:02:36,799 --> 01:02:40,760
Who's going to want to buy them?

959
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:48,079
So in this restriction, the buildings

960
01:02:45,359 --> 01:02:49,599
could be set in accordance to this

961
01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:52,720
drawing. If they had moved building

962
01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:54,400
five, six, and seven further to the east

963
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:58,680
and put the parking on the other side,

964
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,680
that would actually give more privacy.

965
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:04,480
you know, building eight and nine is not

966
01:03:01,839 --> 01:03:06,400
so much of a problem, but yet again, I

967
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:10,640
don't know if the visual end up coming

968
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:13,440
into the back yards of the building.

969
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:16,000
So, I'm just asking the city to help us

970
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:20,280
restrict what these other people end up

971
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,280
being seeing in our backyards.

972
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:26,400
» Okay. Are you are you done?

973
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,000
» No. You know, if we can if id known what

974
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,839
I know now, I should have bring in a

975
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,240
plaque for y'all to see what's actually

976
01:03:29,839 --> 01:03:33,839
going on.

977
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,760
I don't know if we can put this off for

978
01:03:33,839 --> 01:03:37,359
another month till the next meeting. I

979
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,280
end up getting a better drawing for you

980
01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:41,440
so you can see what's going on or what

981
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,039
can we do here?

982
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,520
» Did you appear at planning commission?

983
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:46,000
» Excuse me.

984
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,119
» Did you appear at planning commission?

985
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,640
» Do I appear at him?

986
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:49,680
» Did you go to the meeting when this was

987
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,559
considered and and

988
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:50,880
» No, sir. I didn't.

989
01:03:50,559 --> 01:03:51,839
» Okay.

990
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,119
» I didn't know about it.

991
01:03:51,839 --> 01:03:54,880
» Just curious. All right.

992
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:58,160
» Thank you, Mr. Ren. Let's listen to the

993
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,039
the applicant now.

994
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,319
» Look at what

995
01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:01,200
» If you wouldn't mind having to see right

996
01:04:00,319 --> 01:04:03,119
there. We're going to listen to the

997
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,039
applicant.

998
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:06,799
» Good morning. David Box, 525 Northwest

999
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:08,960
11th Street here on behalf of the

1000
01:04:06,799 --> 01:04:11,280
applicant. So, could you go to the

1001
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:13,200
zoning map, Jared, please? Th this is a

1002
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:15,280
an area of northwest Oklahoma City that

1003
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:17,520
has really a broad mix of different

1004
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:20,559
types of uses. So, uh immediately to the

1005
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:22,799
south is the Grove. It's a 640 acre

1006
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:24,559
development that has everything from a

1007
01:04:22,799 --> 01:04:26,079
small lot single family to an elementary

1008
01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:28,319
school and then significant commercial

1009
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:30,640
along Portland. Uh to the east you have

1010
01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:32,079
R1ZL and then if you go to May Avenue on

1011
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,079
the northeast corner as well as the

1012
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:36,000
southeast corner you have largecale

1013
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:38,480
multifamily apartment projects that

1014
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:41,520
exist. Here we have this kind of random

1015
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:43,599
triangle of land that's zoned office. Um

1016
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:46,160
there's not a whole lot of viability for

1017
01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:48,799
an odd-shaped office tract north of

1018
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,799
192nd Street. So, what we're hoping to

1019
01:04:48,799 --> 01:04:52,400
do on these approximately nine uh excuse

1020
01:04:50,799 --> 01:04:55,039
me, two and a half acres is just put

1021
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,720
nine duplexes. Um we believe duplex to

1022
01:04:55,039 --> 01:04:59,119
be compatible, frankly more compatible

1023
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,880
than what the current 01 use would be.

1024
01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:03,119
In terms of twotory, that's an argument

1025
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:05,520
that is constantly made by uh

1026
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:08,720
protesters. Single family residential

1027
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:10,240
allows twotory uh twotory, single family

1028
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,559
residential next to residential

1029
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:14,400
compatible. We believe twotory duplex

1030
01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:16,319
next to single family is also

1031
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,520
compatible. staff recommended uh

1032
01:05:16,319 --> 01:05:19,760
approval of this. There was one

1033
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:21,760
technical evaluation that we agreed to.

1034
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,039
Uh so we would ask that you uh approve

1035
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,319
this in the same manner the planning

1036
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:26,480
commission did. Happy to answer any

1037
01:05:24,319 --> 01:05:28,960
questions.

1038
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:31,520
» The duplexes are allowed in 01.

1039
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:34,720
» No, this is this would take away the 01

1040
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:38,240
and put in a spud with duplex allowance.

1041
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:41,240
» Thank you for clearing that up.

1042
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,240
Okay.

1043
01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:47,760
And what is the TE the

1044
01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:49,359
» I'm sorry I was just handed this this

1045
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,839
morning so I'm wanting to kind of double

1046
01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:53,280
check.

1047
01:05:49,839 --> 01:05:55,440
» Yeah. So the the TE uh dealt with um the

1048
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,680
dumpster location

1049
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,680
» If we had dumpsters and then TE2 was

1050
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,440
added by planning commission to um

1051
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,200
increase the architectural standards

1052
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:06,079
within the SPED which I think is

1053
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,440
significant. Um you know base zoning as

1054
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:10,000
it relates to residential has no

1055
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,520
architectural standards. Um so we

1056
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,119
through planning commission and the TE

1057
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,640
and now the SPUD have heightened

1058
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:17,760
architectural standards from what would

1059
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:20,559
be required under traditional R1 or R2.

1060
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:22,319
» Okay.

1061
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:24,400
» So with recommendation from staff as

1062
01:06:22,319 --> 01:06:26,079
well as planning commission then we're

1063
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:30,200
going to go ahead and let this move us

1064
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:30,200
forward and move for approval.

1065
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:35,200
» Can I may I [clears throat] ask a

1066
01:06:33,359 --> 01:06:36,160
question?

1067
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,319
Yeah.

1068
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:41,760
» Um, I'm looking at our two former

1069
01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:43,680
planning commissioners right now. Uh, do

1070
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,520
you have do y'all have thoughts? I mean,

1071
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,039
I'm not trying to step of course on I

1072
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,680
know councilman asked you to carry it.

1073
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:50,319
I'm just curious

1074
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:52,960
» If it was zoned R1, they'd be able to

1075
01:06:50,319 --> 01:06:54,400
build a two-story house by right and we

1076
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,000
wouldn't even be here right now. So, if

1077
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,079
it had the exact same zoning as this

1078
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,680
gentleman's property, they would have

1079
01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:01,440
the ability to build two stories and we

1080
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,920
wouldn't question it. I think the only

1081
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,440
thing to I don't know how how how big is

1082
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,839
the setback between

1083
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,680
» 18 approximately 18 feet from the west.

1084
01:07:07,839 --> 01:07:10,079
» Okay. So that's a pretty good distance.

1085
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,079
Um

1086
01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:13,920
» And even with a twotory whether it be a

1087
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:16,240
house or a duplex if we added an

1088
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:18,079
extra-large fence that's not going to be

1089
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,776
tall enough to to block anything. So I

1090
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:20,400
don't want to put that restriction

1091
01:07:18,776 --> 01:07:22,000
[music] on.

1092
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,319
» So I didn't see anything that we could

1093
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,920
actually do in this sense. Am I wrong?

1094
01:07:24,319 --> 01:07:28,319
» It's difficult. I mean you could we

1095
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,079
could require them to uh what do they

1096
01:07:28,319 --> 01:07:31,760
call it? Like frost the windows. Haven't

1097
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:34,559
we done that before?

1098
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:37,119
» Um, but again,

1099
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:37,760
I it doesn't really sound very

1100
01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:40,000
compatible.

1101
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,640
» We have three story complex across the

1102
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,920
street.

1103
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:45,680
» Uh, so south and east at 192nd May, you

1104
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:48,720
have an existing apartment complex at

1105
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:50,799
the souththeast corner. You have zoning

1106
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,319
entitled to allow a three-story

1107
01:07:50,799 --> 01:07:53,839
apartment complex on the northeast

1108
01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:55,359
corner

1109
01:07:53,839 --> 01:07:56,640
in the front. I mean, you know, I get

1110
01:07:55,359 --> 01:07:58,160
your point. You know, that that is an

1111
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,839
avenue, but that really gets into is

1112
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:02,240
this incompatible? It's like, well, why

1113
01:07:59,839 --> 01:08:04,400
should the duplex people be frosted?

1114
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,839
Like, we're afraid of the duplex people

1115
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,359
looking at us, but the single family

1116
01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:09,200
people

1117
01:08:07,359 --> 01:08:11,680
» Could look at us. Apartments sometimes

1118
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:14,480
that happens. Duplex to single family

1119
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:16,400
that those are compatible uses.

1120
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,640
» And any house north or south of it could

1121
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,960
be twotory staring down into the

1122
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,080
backyard of their next door neighbor as

1123
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,000
well.

1124
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,679
» So, it's not necessarily just what's to

1125
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,600
the east of it. It could be your next

1126
01:08:25,679 --> 01:08:29,759
door neighbor builds a two-story house,

1127
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,679
» Right?

1128
01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:33,359
I just wanted to hear people with

1129
01:08:31,679 --> 01:08:36,080
planning commission background speak to

1130
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:37,839
the gentleman's concerns. Um I didn't

1131
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,239
want it to seem like we were just boot

1132
01:08:37,839 --> 01:08:43,239
scooting right past that. So that's all.

1133
01:08:40,239 --> 01:08:43,239
Thanks.

1134
01:08:43,759 --> 01:08:51,799
» Okay. So we have a motion and a second

1135
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:51,799
for this item. Item I cast your votes.

1136
01:08:51,839 --> 01:08:57,040
» I say one more thing.

1137
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:58,080
» We're voting now, sir. I'm sorry

1138
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:01,279
it's a little late.

1139
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:03,279
» Thank you. Passes unanimously.

1140
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:04,719
» I'll say it anyway. They have full

1141
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:06,560
parking [snorts] and street going around

1142
01:09:04,719 --> 01:09:08,799
their perimeters of their apartments in

1143
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,080
between their apartments and adjoining

1144
01:09:08,799 --> 01:09:10,560
facilities.

1145
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,520
» Okay.

1146
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,759
» So,

1147
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,120
» Thank you. Item J is an ordinance on

1148
01:09:13,759 --> 01:09:17,440
final hearing. It was recommended for

1149
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:21,199
approval reszoning 2800 North Oklahoma

1150
01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:22,719
Avenue from R4 to SPD 1842.

1151
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:25,600
Councilman Pennington, no one has signed

1152
01:09:22,719 --> 01:09:27,679
to speak.

1153
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:30,480
Thank you, mayor. Um, this is just

1154
01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:32,400
taking some R4 zoning and moving it into

1155
01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:34,400
industrial that's more compatible with

1156
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:37,799
the immediate surrounding area. So, I'm

1157
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,799
going to move approval.

1158
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:45,719
We have a motion, a second. Cast your

1159
01:09:42,719 --> 01:09:45,719
votes.

1160
01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:52,400
Passes unanimously. Item K is an

1161
01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:54,719
ordinance on final hearing. It was

1162
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:59,600
recommended for approval. Reszoning 5902

1163
01:09:54,719 --> 01:10:01,199
Eperly Drive from R1 to SPD 1844.

1164
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,159
Councilman Stone, no one has signed up

1165
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:04,719
to speak.

1166
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:07,199
» Thank you, Mayor. Um, this is basically

1167
01:10:04,719 --> 01:10:09,760
a storage unit off of, uh, Southeast

1168
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:11,360
59th over close to Eperly, uh,

1169
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,560
recommended by the city and the planning

1170
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,560
commission. So, I'll move for its

1171
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,560
approval.

1172
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:22,360
All right, we have a motion and a

1173
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,360
second. Cast your votes.

1174
01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:31,360
passes unanimously. Item L is an

1175
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:32,800
ordinance on final hearing. It was

1176
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,719
recommended for approval establishing a

1177
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,320
special permit to operate use unit

1178
01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:40,719
83000.33

1179
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:44,000
drinking establishment in the I2 and DP

1180
01:10:40,719 --> 01:10:48,000
uh overlay districts at 500 Southwestern

1181
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:50,320
Council. Woman Hammond is not here.

1182
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,400
Okay. Well, maybe we'll um table that

1183
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:54,400
for a moment. see if she returns. Uh,

1184
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,320
item M is an ordinance on final hearing

1185
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:58,640
recommended for approval closing a

1186
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,800
portion of a north south uh, utility

1187
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:04,480
easement on lot one in block seven of

1188
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:08,679
the lakes at Anacey phase one. Um,

1189
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:08,679
Councilman Stone Cipher,

1190
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,920
» No.

1191
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,920
» Okay. Um, I'd move for approval.

1192
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:24,760
Have a motion and a second. Cast your

1193
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,760
votes.

1194
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:35,760
Passes unanimously.

1195
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:37,199
All right. Um item 11N is an ordinance

1196
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,679
to be introduced. It's set for a final

1197
01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:42,560
hearing on September 1st. Uh this

1198
01:11:39,679 --> 01:11:45,840
relates to our zoning and planning code.

1199
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:47,920
Specifically, I think solar energy. I do

1200
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,679
believe we have a presentation. Go

1201
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:52,000
ahead. Tio Bowman with the

1202
01:11:49,679 --> 01:11:53,600
sustainability office. Uh this adds

1203
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,600
definitions and use regulations,

1204
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,440
accessory use regulations for solar

1205
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,840
energy systems. Presently we don't have

1206
01:11:57,440 --> 01:12:01,920
a definition and it requires applicants

1207
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:05,199
to seek a variance in design districts.

1208
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:07,040
So um UDC um DDC and planning commission

1209
01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:09,199
all recommended unanimous unanimous

1210
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:12,440
approval. Um and so I'll happy to answer

1211
01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:12,440
any questions.

1212
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:18,400
» Seeing no questions. Thank you, Tio. I

1213
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,719
think we could probably proceed with

1214
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:24,360
introduction

1215
01:12:20,719 --> 01:12:24,360
if there's a motion

1216
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:30,679
with a motion and a second. Cast your

1217
01:12:27,679 --> 01:12:30,679
votes.

1218
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:48,880
Passes unanimously. Okay, we're going to

1219
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:51,120
back up now to item L. This was the uh

1220
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:53,360
previously described ordinance on final

1221
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:55,360
hearing in W six. And I understand

1222
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,415
Councilman Cooper will present this.

1223
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,239
» Yeah. Is the applicant present for that?

1224
01:12:57,415 --> 01:13:00,800
[clears throat]

1225
01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:02,880
» Getting those steps in. We don't do that

1226
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:07,000
enough.

1227
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:07,000
» That's what I hear from data.

1228
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,360
» Good morning. David Box, 525 Northwest

1229
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,520
11th Street. uh here on behalf of the

1230
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,920
applicant. This is to allow for the use

1231
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:20,239
unit necessary for uh a bar as well as

1232
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:24,000
the u uh necessary provisions for the

1233
01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:25,120
outdoor um food truck. No protest

1234
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,600
planning commission recommended

1235
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:30,800
approval.

1236
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:33,440
Let me go back to that previous

1237
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:37,800
Oh, cool. Okay. Well, I've been asked to

1238
01:13:33,440 --> 01:13:37,800
move this forward and I shall

1239
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:57,320
Motion in a second. Cast your votes.

1240
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:03,040
» Pass unanimously.

1241
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:05,840
All right. Back into order, which brings

1242
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:07,440
us to item O. O1 is a public hearing

1243
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,120
regarding the dilapidated structure here

1244
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:09,920
listed. Amy, has anyone signed up to

1245
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,800
speak?

1246
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,080
» No, they haven't.

1247
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,480
» Not. So, we will advance to the

1248
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:17,960
resolution at O2 declaring that the

1249
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:17,960
structure is dilapidated.

1250
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:22,920
» I have a motion and a second. Cast your

1251
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,920
votes.

1252
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,719
Passes unanimously. Item 11 P1 is the

1253
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,080
public hearing regarding the unsecured

1254
01:14:34,719 --> 01:14:37,280
structures here listed except for those

1255
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:37,920
previously struck. Jamie, has anyone

1256
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:38,640
signed up to speak?

1257
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,000
» No, they haven't.

1258
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,440
» They have not. So, we'll advance to the

1259
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:44,920
resolution found at P2 declaring

1260
01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:44,920
structures are unsecured.

1261
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:50,440
» We have motion and a second. Cast your

1262
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:50,440
votes.

1263
01:14:53,199 --> 01:14:56,560
» Passes unanimously. Q1 is the public

1264
01:14:55,199 --> 01:14:58,800
hearing regarding the abandoned building

1265
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,120
here listed. Uh Amy, has anyone time to

1266
01:14:58,800 --> 01:14:59,760
speak?

1267
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:00,880
» No, they haven't.

1268
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,239
» They have not. So, we'll advance to the

1269
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:05,640
resolution at Q2 declaring that the

1270
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:05,640
building is abandoned.

1271
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:14,440
A motion, a second. Cast your votes.

1272
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:27,640
Counciloman Avers, if you Thanks.

1273
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:36,239
Passes unanimously.

1274
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:37,440
All right. Uh 11R is a joint resolution

1275
01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:39,520
with the Oklahoma City Economic

1276
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:41,840
Development Trust uh approving the

1277
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:44,080
allocation of geo limited tax bond

1278
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:48,000
proceeds in an amount not to exceed $3

1279
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:51,920
million for the Shane affordable housing

1280
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:52,880
project near Hefner and county line. And

1281
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,400
uh we have a presentation.

1282
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,000
» Yes. Joanna Mcbaden, our economic

1283
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,640
development manager, will introduce this

1284
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,560
item.

1285
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:00,239
» Yeah. Hi. Uh Joanna Mcpaden, finance

1286
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,840
department. Um, I just wanted to do a

1287
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:03,840
quick introduction on both of these next

1288
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:06,400
two items. This will be the first

1289
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:09,120
allocations of the new affordable

1290
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:11,280
housing bond money. Um, they're both

1291
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,719
structured as a payback loan rather than

1292
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:15,120
the forgivable loan that you guys have

1293
01:16:12,719 --> 01:16:16,880
seen in the past. Um, they'll be paid

1294
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,560
back after their tax credit funding

1295
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,000
period. Kathy Okconor is going to

1296
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,840
present on both and give you a

1297
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:25,320
description of the projects. So, let us

1298
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:25,320
know if you have questions.

1299
01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:33,120
Thank you. I'm Kathy O' Conor with the

1300
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:35,679
Coalign Group and I'm here on behalf of

1301
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:37,360
the Dominium Development Group today to

1302
01:16:35,679 --> 01:16:40,800
talk to you about the Shane affordable

1303
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:43,440
housing project. Um this project is go

1304
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:46,080
on to the next slide. Um just a little

1305
01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:48,080
bit about the developer. Dominium is um

1306
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:50,400
got a few projects going here in the

1307
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:52,719
state and in Oklahoma City. They have

1308
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:54,960
over 50 years of experience in

1309
01:16:52,719 --> 01:16:57,920
developing, owning, and managing

1310
01:16:54,960 --> 01:17:00,960
affordable housing projects nationwide.

1311
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:04,000
They have over 40,000 apartment homes in

1312
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:06,800
20 plus community, 200 220 communities

1313
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:08,800
across the state. They are long-term

1314
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:11,520
owners. They hold most of their projects

1315
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:13,199
for 20 to 30 years. And they are a

1316
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,679
vertically integrated company. That

1317
01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:18,159
means that they have the construction,

1318
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:20,320
the architecture, property management,

1319
01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:22,800
compliance, and asset management all in

1320
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,159
house in their company.

1321
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,960
The project that we're talking about

1322
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:30,640
today is the Shane. It's located at um

1323
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:34,480
West Hefner Road and County Line Road um

1324
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:38,400
along Northwest Highway. It's about 412.

1325
01:17:34,480 --> 01:17:41,920
It is 412 units that include 14

1326
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:44,080
apartment buildings and 88 town homes.

1327
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:46,560
they have applied and have qualified for

1328
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:48,560
the 4% low-income housing tax credit.

1329
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:51,120
So, we will be leveraging those tax

1330
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:53,520
credits with the city's um affordable

1331
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:56,400
housing loan fund.

1332
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:58,239
Go ahead. This is a site plan for the

1333
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:02,520
project. You can see the layout of the

1334
01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:02,520
various units and the town homes.

1335
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,400
Again, the location. Um, one of the

1336
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,920
things that's important in a tax credit

1337
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,760
application is you point out what

1338
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,760
amenities are near your project. And

1339
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:14,880
this one is in the Piedmont school

1340
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:17,679
district. It's nearby to shopping parks,

1341
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:22,320
Lake Hefner, good highway access, and

1342
01:18:17,679 --> 01:18:24,640
the and the patients ladding library.

1343
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,320
This is a breakdown of the units. Um you

1344
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:29,840
can see that it's a variety of two,

1345
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:32,560
three, and four bedrooms. Um and the

1346
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:36,000
average rents range from about $1,200 a

1347
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:38,400
month to four to little bit under $1,600

1348
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:41,040
a month for the fourbedroom units.

1349
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:43,760
Again,

1350
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:45,920
a breakdown of our budget. Um, the total

1351
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:48,800
budget for the project is is a little

1352
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:52,000
bit over $156 million.

1353
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:55,520
Um, that comes out to a per unit cost,

1354
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:58,320
which is kind of amazing, of $379,000

1355
01:18:55,520 --> 01:19:01,920
a unit. But these projects um typically

1356
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:04,560
have some um soft costs and things that

1357
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:06,719
are not commonly found in regular um

1358
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:08,400
apartment projects.

1359
01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:10,400
Our

1360
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:13,360
affordable housing request is a $2

1361
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:15,840
million uh loan in the first trunch that

1362
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:18,239
would have an 8% interest rate and then

1363
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,760
the second loan I mean a 0% interest

1364
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:22,320
rate and then the second trunch would be

1365
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:25,760
a $1 million loan with an 8% interest

1366
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:29,280
rate. Both of these would be uh

1367
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:31,440
co-terminus with the affordable housing

1368
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:34,480
compli tax credit compliance period

1369
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:37,120
which means that it'll be about 18 years

1370
01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:38,960
and repaid at the time of sale or

1371
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:41,840
refinance of the project. So with a

1372
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:43,520
affordable housing um low-income housing

1373
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,679
tax credits, you have a 15-year

1374
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:48,159
compliance period, but that doesn't

1375
01:19:45,679 --> 01:19:51,360
start until the units are constructed

1376
01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:54,239
and leased up. So it usually is around

1377
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:56,400
18 years. um that we're looking at to

1378
01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:59,199
pay these loans back.

1379
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:01,199
» And Kathy, does that for the 18 years,

1380
01:19:59,199 --> 01:20:03,520
is that how long you have to the owners

1381
01:20:01,199 --> 01:20:04,960
have to maintain that affordability? And

1382
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,480
so after that, they're no longer

1383
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,159
required to do it.

1384
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:10,480
» And and typically what they do is they

1385
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:12,880
refinance with another low-inccome

1386
01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:16,000
housing tax credit

1387
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:17,520
allocation and extend the affordability.

1388
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:21,560
Most of these units will be affordable

1389
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:21,560
for 30 years. Gotcha.

1390
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:29,360
I think Kathy, so is the um is the term

1391
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:32,239
loan is that whenever it's paid back in

1392
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:34,320
full or is it a lump sum in 18 years?

1393
01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:37,600
» There are interest payments that are

1394
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:41,600
made during the term of the loan on the

1395
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:44,159
8% interest rate trunch of it. Um but

1396
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:46,159
the the principal and any remaining

1397
01:20:44,159 --> 01:20:48,480
interest would be paid at the at the end

1398
01:20:46,159 --> 01:20:50,000
of the term. Well, I like I like the

1399
01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:51,440
approach that's being taken with this

1400
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,280
administration so that it can really

1401
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:55,120
reinvest and create essentially a

1402
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,719
cycling fund. Is that the intent?

1403
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,360
» Yeah. Yes. I think that's the city's

1404
01:20:56,719 --> 01:21:00,360
intent.

1405
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,360
» Yes.

1406
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,640
» Um,

1407
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,960
» Any other questions?

1408
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,400
» I don't

1409
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:09,120
Well, I guess I could make it as a

1410
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:11,199
question. Can you help me understand

1411
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:14,480
this location? Like why the developer

1412
01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:17,440
chose Heapner and County Line? Well,

1413
01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:19,600
because it's in a it's a good location

1414
01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:21,600
for schools. It's in a very good school

1415
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:24,400
district. Um the property was already

1416
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:27,040
zoned multif family um and on the market

1417
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:29,360
for purchase. So, I think that that had

1418
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:33,040
a lot to do with how they selected it.

1419
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:34,400
And um JT Martin is here with the

1420
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,920
developer. He may be able to help me

1421
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,840
with this, but I believe it's also in

1422
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:40,560
what's called a QCT. So, it's in a

1423
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:43,520
qualified census track for the program.

1424
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:47,360
Um, so it it scores better when you go

1425
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:48,719
through OFA for the tax credit process.

1426
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,840
» I'm happy to provide some additional

1427
01:21:48,719 --> 01:21:51,440
context there and it's a a good

1428
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,600
question, something I appreciate when

1429
01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:55,199
people ask. Um, my name is JT Marty. I

1430
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,120
work with Dominium. Um, we're multif

1431
01:21:55,199 --> 01:21:58,400
family developer based out of Dallas and

1432
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,920
have a couple other projects going on in

1433
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,440
Oklahoma City. So, it's somewhere we're

1434
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:03,760
really invested in and really appreciate

1435
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:05,440
coming up too. Um, in regards to your

1436
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,960
question, I think that there's a couple

1437
01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:08,639
pieces. You know, Kathy mentioned first

1438
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,880
how the project was zoned for multif

1439
01:22:08,639 --> 01:22:12,080
family. Um, which is kind of the first

1440
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,840
thing, you know, it's a project that we

1441
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,600
can get done, but from a demographic

1442
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:17,120
standpoint, Dominium, um, we've been

1443
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,960
around for 50 years and we're really

1444
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:21,520
concerned about the longevity of our

1445
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:23,120
assets. And so, a lot of developers will

1446
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,480
typically develop, especially in the

1447
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,080
affordable housing space, develop

1448
01:22:24,480 --> 01:22:27,920
somewhere where they can make a bunch of

1449
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:30,400
money of a developer fee and then kind

1450
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:33,440
of just walk off and not really like

1451
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:34,719
keep up with the the asset over time. um

1452
01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:36,480
with a lot of deferred maintenance and

1453
01:22:34,719 --> 01:22:37,760
just kind of some of the problems that

1454
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:39,760
come to your mind when you hear the word

1455
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:41,360
affordable housing. And something about

1456
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,639
Dominion that's a little unique is we

1457
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,400
like to develop in communities that

1458
01:22:42,639 --> 01:22:46,560
otherwise our residents wouldn't be able

1459
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:49,440
to afford to live in. And so from our

1460
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:51,600
research um in this area, our rent would

1461
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:53,280
save the residents about $300 a month.

1462
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:55,120
Um and so there's not really other

1463
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:57,120
options to live in this side of town in

1464
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,560
the Pedmont school district in these

1465
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,960
larger town homes that we're building on

1466
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:02,800
part of the site um anywhere in town.

1467
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,080
And then also just the connectivity to

1468
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:06,000
the interstate, the ability to get

1469
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:08,960
through the whole metro pretty quickly

1470
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:11,199
is important to us. Like 400 units is a

1471
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:13,440
lot of apartments that we're all aware

1472
01:23:11,199 --> 01:23:14,639
of. And so the ability to be able to,

1473
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:16,480
you know, get down to the southwest

1474
01:23:14,639 --> 01:23:18,239
corner into the industrial pocket, but

1475
01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:20,000
also, you know, traverse the metro

1476
01:23:18,239 --> 01:23:21,840
pretty easily is another selling point.

1477
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,280
The the main summary is just that the

1478
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,719
demographics in this area really strong.

1479
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,560
There's a lot of single family homes

1480
01:23:24,719 --> 01:23:28,080
being developed to our north. Um there's

1481
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,120
a new single family home community to

1482
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,040
our east that just developed. So it's

1483
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:33,199
just a a growing area. and there's not a

1484
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:35,040
lot of land that's undeveloped within

1485
01:23:33,199 --> 01:23:38,719
the the loop and so it's just something

1486
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:42,239
we're excited about.

1487
01:23:38,719 --> 01:23:45,280
» Um, thank you for the context from both

1488
01:23:42,239 --> 01:23:49,760
of you. So,

1489
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:51,360
I think this is more for the council uh

1490
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,960
and maybe for the developer. I'm not

1491
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,880
sure.

1492
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,159
It's as you it sounds like you know what

1493
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:59,600
you're talking about. I know Kathy

1494
01:23:56,159 --> 01:24:03,600
absolutely does. Uh my concern about

1495
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:06,880
this location is and I'll I'll play it

1496
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:08,880
out. I want to see how this goes. But my

1497
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:11,520
concern and it's what you just talked

1498
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:14,239
about with the highway and 400 of these

1499
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:16,320
units.

1500
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:18,639
My one of my best friends just bought a

1501
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:20,480
car. Hadn't had one in year. I mean had

1502
01:24:18,639 --> 01:24:22,639
one but you know it was a very old one

1503
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:25,280
and spent

1504
01:24:22,639 --> 01:24:28,080
over $25,000 to buy that car. That's the

1505
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:32,960
first thing. We also know annually it's

1506
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:34,800
about $12,000 maintenance and gas.

1507
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:37,600
When you're talking about the median

1508
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:41,199
income for Oklahoma City residents being

1509
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:43,840
$37,000 a year, that's why we need the

1510
01:24:41,199 --> 01:24:46,639
affordable housing, right? And I

1511
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:48,080
appreciate the 60% of AMI. I think

1512
01:24:46,639 --> 01:24:50,400
that's great, right? Because we're going

1513
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:52,480
to be able to get to that demographic.

1514
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:54,159
But when we build that affordable

1515
01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:57,440
housing

1516
01:24:54,159 --> 01:25:02,159
outside of a city's public

1517
01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:05,199
transportation system, we are putting on

1518
01:25:02,159 --> 01:25:09,199
to that individual or family

1519
01:25:05,199 --> 01:25:12,639
transportation cost annually. I just

1520
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:15,520
last week oil change, coolant flush,

1521
01:25:12,639 --> 01:25:17,679
cabin air filter, $350

1522
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:20,639
just poof gone. And that's just for

1523
01:25:17,679 --> 01:25:22,880
that. That's not the Iran war gas

1524
01:25:20,639 --> 01:25:26,960
prices. I'm guessing the war will end at

1525
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:29,280
some point, but even before the war,

1526
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:32,800
these transportation data costs are what

1527
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:34,960
they are. They are what they are. And

1528
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:37,040
that is my concern about this location.

1529
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:40,000
So again, I'm willing to hear like,

1530
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:42,960
okay, let's do this because the school

1531
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:45,600
district I I think you make a arguably

1532
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:48,239
persuasive case there. But there are in

1533
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:52,000
fact other parts of Oklahoma City,

1534
01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:56,320
particularly in the urban core from 240

1535
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:58,719
to 35 to 44 to Memorial. And quite

1536
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:01,040
frankly, I'd come down to expressway um

1537
01:25:58,719 --> 01:26:03,360
where we have a public transportation

1538
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,719
system, where we have the ability to do

1539
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:08,159
something called transit oriented

1540
01:26:04,719 --> 01:26:10,719
development. That is not my phrase. That

1541
01:26:08,159 --> 01:26:12,480
is something I have learned serving on

1542
01:26:10,719 --> 01:26:16,080
the central Oklahoma Transportation and

1543
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:19,679
Parking Authority since 2015. And if we

1544
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:21,679
are really serious about infill,

1545
01:26:19,679 --> 01:26:23,760
affordable housing, mixeduse

1546
01:26:21,679 --> 01:26:25,120
developments, and transportationoriented

1547
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,120
development, we we've got to start

1548
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:29,120
thinking a little bit more cleverly

1549
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:31,920
about where we are. Um, not just

1550
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:36,400
cleverly, intentionally about these

1551
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:38,080
affordable housing projects. I I this is

1552
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:40,000
I'm going to say yes, but I'm not going

1553
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:43,679
to keep saying yes. if we keep doing

1554
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:46,800
this, if we keep sprawling ourselves out

1555
01:26:43,679 --> 01:26:48,000
with affordable housing because it it

1556
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,600
and I'm seeing some people not

1557
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,880
understanding what I'm saying, so I

1558
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:55,360
don't know when the last time it was you

1559
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:59,600
made $37,000 a year. Um,

1560
01:26:55,360 --> 01:27:01,760
we cannot keep building

1561
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:03,840
housing, especially quote affordable

1562
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:07,600
housing, away from public

1563
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:11,280
transportation. We can't do it. So, I'm

1564
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:13,840
just and and and let me go this far. If

1565
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:15,440
someone thinks I'm wrong from this

1566
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:17,440
horseshoe,

1567
01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:20,800
bring the data in the research, bring

1568
01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:23,199
it. Bring it. Show this council that

1569
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:25,199
what I am saying is incorrect. Show us

1570
01:27:23,199 --> 01:27:29,040
because I promise you, I could bring

1571
01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:33,120
Jason Fairbrush up here, uh Jesse Rush,

1572
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:35,040
I could bring the RTA board. Uh

1573
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,719
we're making some great investments in

1574
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,800
public transit and affordable housing

1575
01:27:36,719 --> 01:27:43,040
and I would encourage you as a developer

1576
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:45,199
to help us in that regard. Um Kathy, you

1577
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,639
too. Um and council, like I said, if

1578
01:27:45,199 --> 01:27:49,840
you're having a problem with what I am

1579
01:27:46,639 --> 01:27:52,639
saying, then bring me the counter data.

1580
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,920
So, and I I need for Bradley to be able

1581
01:27:52,639 --> 01:27:55,760
to have this stuff out there for the

1582
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:57,679
reasons you said that there are too many

1583
01:27:55,760 --> 01:28:01,199
families who can't afford to move out

1584
01:27:57,679 --> 01:28:01,679
there, but

1585
01:28:01,199 --> 01:28:03,679
Okay.

1586
01:28:01,679 --> 01:28:05,120
» On that, I'll take that as a segue. Um,

1587
01:28:03,679 --> 01:28:06,719
I don't think that you're wrong in what

1588
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,800
you're saying, but I think that the

1589
01:28:06,719 --> 01:28:10,800
definition for who qualifies for

1590
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:13,760
affordable housing has expanded a lot,

1591
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:16,400
especially in the last 12 to 18 months.

1592
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:19,199
So, I do think something like this is

1593
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:21,040
needed in our in our in my ward. Um, I

1594
01:28:19,199 --> 01:28:22,239
have to agree with him wholeheartedly

1595
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,560
when it comes to the fact that we don't

1596
01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:26,800
have public transportation in that area.

1597
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:29,120
Um I want to say public transportation

1598
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,960
stops about a mile and a half from this

1599
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:33,199
this corner uh council north as

1600
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:35,120
expressway. So that's something that

1601
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:37,760
we'll have to take up with our our

1602
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:39,600
transit on that. Um couple questions

1603
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:41,679
that I do have for you though is what is

1604
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:43,199
your um what's going to keep you from

1605
01:28:41,679 --> 01:28:44,159
selling this and it becoming not

1606
01:28:43,199 --> 01:28:45,840
affordable housing?

1607
01:28:44,159 --> 01:28:47,679
» Yeah, it's a a good question um and

1608
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:49,199
something that was mentioned earlier. So

1609
01:28:47,679 --> 01:28:51,360
the project will actually be restricted

1610
01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:52,960
to to these rent levels for 30 years.

1611
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,760
Um, Dominium, you know, as we mentioned

1612
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,520
earlier, we've been in the business for

1613
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:58,239
50 years. We've been developing new

1614
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:59,840
construction uh lit communities for

1615
01:28:58,239 --> 01:29:02,000
since probably 2010, and we've never

1616
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:04,880
sold one of them before. Um, so just

1617
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:06,719
through our track record, we don't

1618
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:09,040
historically sell these. And Oklahoma

1619
01:29:06,719 --> 01:29:10,639
stays, it's not just another project to

1620
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,000
us. Like this is, you know, what I think

1621
01:29:10,639 --> 01:29:14,719
about all day and somewhere that I'm

1622
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:16,400
really excited to be invested in. Um, I

1623
01:29:14,719 --> 01:29:18,080
guess the simplest way to answer your

1624
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:20,400
question is that we're restricted to do

1625
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:21,920
this for 30 years. But the I guess more

1626
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,199
nuanced answer is that Dominium does

1627
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,360
this across the country and has done

1628
01:29:23,199 --> 01:29:26,800
this for the last 15 or 20 years not

1629
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,320
selling any of these projects.

1630
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,400
» So when you say you're restricted from

1631
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:33,920
doing this for 30 years if I read the

1632
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:36,000
slide correctly I mean I understand what

1633
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:38,080
the the loans the the agreements and

1634
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:40,480
what such but what I read I thought it

1635
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:42,080
said if you were to sell you would have

1636
01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:43,920
to be you would have to pay everything

1637
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,679
back in one lump sum at that point. But

1638
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,360
it doesn't say anything about the fact

1639
01:29:45,679 --> 01:29:49,600
that the person purchasing it would have

1640
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:51,120
to maintain affordable housing.

1641
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,800
» So, we signed a land use restriction

1642
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,440
agreement with the Oklahoma Housing

1643
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:57,040
Finance.

1644
01:29:53,440 --> 01:29:58,880
» Are we about to explode?

1645
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,760
» Something's about to happen. Sorry to

1646
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,120
interrupt you.

1647
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:01,840
» No worries.

1648
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,280
» Okay.

1649
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,639
» Uh, we signed a land use restriction

1650
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,639
agreement with the Oklahoma Housing

1651
01:30:04,639 --> 01:30:08,639
Finance Agency where it restricts the

1652
01:30:06,639 --> 01:30:10,639
project to this rent level for 30 years

1653
01:30:08,639 --> 01:30:14,159
when we close on our financing. And so

1654
01:30:10,639 --> 01:30:16,880
that stays in place and is uh is has

1655
01:30:14,159 --> 01:30:19,040
priority over our loan and has you know

1656
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:20,400
priority to stay in the on the land.

1657
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:20,560
It's like connected to the land for 30

1658
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,800
years.

1659
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:24,639
» So even if it's paid off that that

1660
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,360
restriction is tied to the land for 30

1661
01:30:24,639 --> 01:30:27,920
years. Correct.

1662
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:29,360
» So whoever buys it understands that

1663
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,520
» And is going to be held to those

1664
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:33,120
standards. What Kathy was saying earlier

1665
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:35,360
is what will likely happen after 15

1666
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,800
years is Dominium will refinance or

1667
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:38,560
we'll have some sort of value event

1668
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,880
internally and then we will rehab the

1669
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:42,400
property and extend our our we'll extend

1670
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:44,000
the affordability again for another 30

1671
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:46,080
years at that point. So,

1672
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,920
» Okay, that that helps me on this one.

1673
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:49,600
Just I want to also make sure that we we

1674
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:52,159
have that kind of put out in layman's

1675
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:54,320
terms. Um the other question I have for

1676
01:30:52,159 --> 01:30:56,159
you is what is your your time frame of

1677
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,360
development? And I'm I'm going to

1678
01:30:56,159 --> 01:31:00,480
explain this to you. And the reason I'm

1679
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:03,199
asking this is I have a lot of pressure

1680
01:31:00,480 --> 01:31:06,159
from the Piedmont School District to not

1681
01:31:03,199 --> 01:31:07,679
develop. They haven't approved a bond in

1682
01:31:06,159 --> 01:31:09,280
almost two years now. They haven't been

1683
01:31:07,679 --> 01:31:10,560
able to build buildings. They can't even

1684
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,560
take care of their roads. They're having

1685
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:15,679
a lot of issues uh with different

1686
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:17,280
aspects. So the more we build and put

1687
01:31:15,679 --> 01:31:19,600
kids in their school, the more problems

1688
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:21,360
they continue to have, which trickles

1689
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:24,080
down to problems with children learning

1690
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:25,760
development, yada yada yada. So I I just

1691
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:26,719
need to see what our kind of our time

1692
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,800
frame is for this.

1693
01:31:26,719 --> 01:31:30,320
» Yes, we would plan to start construction

1694
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,960
um this year in probably the end of

1695
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:34,800
October and from there it would take us

1696
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,639
about 30 months to complete the entire

1697
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,920
project which would kind of be turned

1698
01:31:36,639 --> 01:31:39,440
over in phases. And so we'd probably

1699
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:42,320
expect the first third of the project to

1700
01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:44,880
be done about 20 months after that. So

1701
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:47,679
I'd say and and then another section

1702
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:49,600
probably 26 months after the start and

1703
01:31:47,679 --> 01:31:50,800
then 30 months. pretty much we'll start

1704
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,719
construction here in the end of this

1705
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:56,560
year and then we will be completely

1706
01:31:52,719 --> 01:32:00,560
delivered in the middle of 2029.

1707
01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:02,960
» Okay. So three years you'll be you'll

1708
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:05,040
have 400 and some units completed.

1709
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:07,520
» Correct.

1710
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:09,360
» Okay. Thank you very much. Relatedly,

1711
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:11,280
you know, a school district that just

1712
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:13,520
passed the bond and is doing all kinds

1713
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:15,600
of improvement is Oklahoma City public

1714
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:17,600
schools that they're building flex

1715
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,760
spaces for career tech training on

1716
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:21,840
campus. So, I'd love to see you back

1717
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:23,199
here. I like it sounds like your mind

1718
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,960
and your heart are heading in some

1719
01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:27,920
places where I think there's some good

1720
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:29,600
collaboration in the future. But,

1721
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,480
» I appreciate your questions and I as

1722
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,920
someone who thinks about affordable

1723
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:34,719
housing all day, I do not disagree with

1724
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:36,000
anything you said with the the trans.

1725
01:32:34,719 --> 01:32:37,120
» I appreciate you bringing it up.

1726
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:41,280
encouragement. Thank you.

1727
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:44,800
» Sadly, in reality, W four, W five, most

1728
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:46,880
of W 8, a lot of W 7 are way underserved

1729
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:49,199
by public transit.

1730
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:51,360
» So, you're you're limiting where

1731
01:32:49,199 --> 01:32:53,520
affordable housing can be built based on

1732
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:55,360
public transit. I mean, and I know

1733
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,159
you're licking your lips there.

1734
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:59,840
» Oh, I am.

1735
01:32:56,159 --> 01:33:01,760
» But but it it's the real reality of it.

1736
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:04,080
Until public transit gets better, we

1737
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:06,480
can't styy affordable housing being

1738
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:10,280
built other places. Just forcing a

1739
01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:10,280
public transit hand.

1740
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:17,749
» Okay.

1741
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:17,749
» No, hang on. No. No. No. No. [music]

1742
01:33:18,349 --> 01:33:21,520
[laughter]

1743
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:25,320
» It's called regulating one's emotions

1744
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:25,320
and not just responding.

1745
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,040
» Well, you

1746
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,960
» Okay. Sorry. Go ahead. This is

1747
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,960
important. This This is something that

1748
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:35,360
voters just approved in October, this

1749
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:36,719
$50 million, for the first time in our

1750
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,400
history, investment in affordable

1751
01:33:36,719 --> 01:33:41,120
housing. And the council member is not

1752
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:43,840
wrong.

1753
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:45,600
We have for all of these years, we did

1754
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:48,560
not even have Sunday bus service, as you

1755
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:50,159
all recall, until 2018. All of these

1756
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,679
decades, the buses did not run on days

1757
01:33:50,159 --> 01:33:53,920
that people go to places of worship when

1758
01:33:51,679 --> 01:33:56,320
they go to grocery stores to see their

1759
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:59,360
families, etc., etc., etc.

1760
01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:01,360
We did not prioritize public uh

1761
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:03,600
transportation and that is why word four

1762
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:04,960
and word seven and word five and word

1763
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,960
eight are not served by public

1764
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:08,719
transportation is not by my hand. I

1765
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:10,400
would have and w one I would have done

1766
01:34:08,719 --> 01:34:12,239
it a million times over and I have

1767
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:14,080
advocated for it a million times over.

1768
01:34:12,239 --> 01:34:15,520
So this is not an us versus them thing.

1769
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:18,000
I would have done it. I would do it

1770
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:19,600
right now. I would encourage us to be

1771
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,040
expanding public transportation out

1772
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:23,120
there. That's why I'm so supportive of

1773
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:25,120
our one transit election which is

1774
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:28,159
actually going to allow us not just to

1775
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:30,800
do commuter rail from Norman to Edmund

1776
01:34:28,159 --> 01:34:33,600
to OKC light rail and councilwoman's

1777
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:36,560
ward to the airport to county line not

1778
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:38,239
just BRT to the airport but actually to

1779
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:40,639
increase our public transportation

1780
01:34:38,239 --> 01:34:42,880
budget in the city of Oklahoma City so

1781
01:34:40,639 --> 01:34:44,639
that buses actually run by the industry

1782
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,159
standard of every 15 minutes instead of

1783
01:34:44,639 --> 01:34:48,080
the 30 minutes that they do right now.

1784
01:34:46,159 --> 01:34:50,480
If you miss the bus right now, that is

1785
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:52,320
your job.

1786
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:54,239
You have to wait 30 more minutes before

1787
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:56,880
you get there. So, no, you're not wrong,

1788
01:34:54,239 --> 01:34:59,760
Councilman. But we're

1789
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:03,360
what I guess I am advocating

1790
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:06,000
is that as we move toward one transit,

1791
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:08,320
as we move toward those investments, we

1792
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:10,480
cannot put the cart before the horse and

1793
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:14,239
start building the affordable housing

1794
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:16,239
out in the parts of the city where that

1795
01:35:14,239 --> 01:35:20,080
public transportation option doesn't

1796
01:35:16,239 --> 01:35:22,480
exist for our people. If a person lives

1797
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:24,560
and I have friends in all of your words,

1798
01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:26,159
all of your words I know people and I

1799
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:28,400
also know people who either have just

1800
01:35:26,159 --> 01:35:31,440
one car and they are a family or they

1801
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:33,520
have no car and they cannot if we are

1802
01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:35,440
landlocking them is what I am saying. We

1803
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:37,679
are landlocking them when we build this

1804
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:39,679
housing in the part of town that you

1805
01:35:37,679 --> 01:35:41,520
have just described when we don't have

1806
01:35:39,679 --> 01:35:44,480
that public transportation system for

1807
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:47,120
them. Meanwhile, all across parts of

1808
01:35:44,480 --> 01:35:49,120
each of our respective ws, part of your

1809
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:50,560
word, part of that councilman's word,

1810
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:53,120
part of this council part, every one of

1811
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:55,280
the words you just named, um there is

1812
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:57,280
public transportation options and info

1813
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,639
option development all around each one

1814
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:01,040
of those words. We should be

1815
01:35:58,639 --> 01:36:03,920
prioritizing this $50 million affordable

1816
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:05,920
housing funding where the transit exists

1817
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:07,600
in each one of our respective WS. This

1818
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:09,120
is not a word two prioritizing thing

1819
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:11,440
that I'm doing. I'm telling you, each

1820
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:13,920
one of our words, Councilwoman and I

1821
01:36:11,440 --> 01:36:15,679
share Northwest 23rd Street together, we

1822
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:18,000
share it. We could be doing this sort of

1823
01:36:15,679 --> 01:36:20,400
investment around there, MacArthur,

1824
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:23,120
Northeast 10th Street, you name it. And

1825
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:26,000
I love Bradley's question, excuse me,

1826
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:27,840
Councilman Councilman's question about

1827
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:29,360
the longevity of the affordable housing

1828
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:31,440
because when I think about Northeast

1829
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:33,120
10th Street, sorry, Northwest 10th

1830
01:36:31,440 --> 01:36:35,440
Street, and I think about parts of the

1831
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:38,000
city, 122nd and Penn, which used to be

1832
01:36:35,440 --> 01:36:39,360
part of WI, there were apartments, there

1833
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:43,360
were developers who are standing right

1834
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:45,679
where you're standing right now who pro

1835
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:47,600
made a similar pitch to that council 30

1836
01:36:45,679 --> 01:36:50,320
years ago when they built those houses

1837
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:52,320
or excuse me, those

1838
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:54,480
There is no maintenance in those

1839
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:57,119
apartments today. There is no

1840
01:36:54,480 --> 01:36:59,040
maintaining of affordability. There is

1841
01:36:57,119 --> 01:37:00,960
no maintaining of the conditions of

1842
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:03,119
those apartments. So, councilman asked

1843
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,480
the exact right question to be asking.

1844
01:37:03,119 --> 01:37:06,000
And that is actually something I would

1845
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:07,920
turn to city manager Freeman in this

1846
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:09,840
moment and to planning and start asking

1847
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:12,239
us to think about what happens at the

1848
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:15,600
end of that 30 years. Now all of us will

1849
01:37:12,239 --> 01:37:17,920
be heading into retirement of course but

1850
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:19,360
our people will linger and we really do

1851
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,960
need to think about what are some

1852
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:22,480
parameters we can be I mean thinking

1853
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:25,600
outside the box what have other cities

1854
01:37:22,480 --> 01:37:27,679
done. We cannot allow this development

1855
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:30,719
30 years from now to become what Dime

1856
01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:32,719
Block has become.

1857
01:37:30,719 --> 01:37:34,320
We cannot do that. We have got to be

1858
01:37:32,719 --> 01:37:36,159
more intentional about this. So I think

1859
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:37,840
you're asking and saying the exact right

1860
01:37:36,159 --> 01:37:39,679
things. Please do not misunderstand me

1861
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:41,520
of saying I want all of this in W two

1862
01:37:39,679 --> 01:37:43,119
because I could point to each one of our

1863
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:45,199
words and see where the public

1864
01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:48,560
transportation

1865
01:37:45,199 --> 01:37:49,920
uh development opportunities are. I just

1866
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,840
want to be very clear about that. This

1867
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:54,320
is not a word to versus everybody else.

1868
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:56,960
I see it. I'm asking us to prioritize

1869
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:59,600
where the transportation is to do the

1870
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:01,840
affordable housing there as we improve

1871
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:03,920
our public transportation system. I hope

1872
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:06,000
that makes sense. If it does not, let me

1873
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,119
know. By the way, I have to calm down in

1874
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:09,040
these moments because I get so

1875
01:38:07,119 --> 01:38:12,480
passionate, so excited, and I don't ever

1876
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:14,080
want to come across as um combative. So,

1877
01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:15,920
please, council members, do not ever

1878
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:18,639
think that's what's happening. I love

1879
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:22,239
this sort of engagement. I love back and

1880
01:38:18,639 --> 01:38:24,159
forth. I live for it. So, don't don't

1881
01:38:22,239 --> 01:38:25,920
take this don't take this as like trying

1882
01:38:24,159 --> 01:38:28,800
to prove a point. This is truly like a

1883
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:32,320
iron sharpens iron moment. So, and if I

1884
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:34,239
ever come across differently, you know,

1885
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:36,080
let me know. But just know that that's

1886
01:38:34,239 --> 01:38:37,920
it's just a spirited thing. And again,

1887
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:39,840
both of you have brought something

1888
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:41,119
meaningful here for the reasons that you

1889
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:43,520
have said and the council person has

1890
01:38:41,119 --> 01:38:46,080
said. I'm just trying to like push us a

1891
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:49,080
little bit further here toward that

1892
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:49,080
affordability.

1893
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,880
» Thank you.

1894
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:54,960
» I think what you're saying is um

1895
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:56,480
strategic prioritization

1896
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,800
» Of economic incentives tied to

1897
01:38:56,480 --> 01:39:01,199
affordable housing. And so are is there

1898
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:03,040
a framework within the alliance or

1899
01:39:01,199 --> 01:39:06,320
within this uh economic development

1900
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:08,800
trust that is prioritizing or

1901
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,719
incentivizing or rankordering uh

1902
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:12,639
applications based on what makes the

1903
01:39:10,719 --> 01:39:14,960
most sense for our city or is it really

1904
01:39:12,639 --> 01:39:15,760
just a on an application by application

1905
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:18,080
basis?

1906
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:21,760
» A good point question. I mean we we we

1907
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:24,239
do have that in as a priority but it's

1908
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:26,880
not a limiting factor you know and

1909
01:39:24,239 --> 01:39:29,280
having an opportunity with this to get f

1910
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:30,800
it's that are this type of quality it's

1911
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:34,080
so it's a balance it's something we

1912
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:35,760
consider but it's not the final decision

1913
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:38,719
but I do think it's one that we got to

1914
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:40,800
be sensitive to of like how much of the

1915
01:39:38,719 --> 01:39:43,040
affordable since we're limited on how

1916
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:44,560
much we have would be outside of that

1917
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:46,639
public transportation corridor I think

1918
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:48,960
we got to keep that in mind Joan and

1919
01:39:46,639 --> 01:39:50,400
have just been communicating on this and

1920
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,840
so it's it's definitely something that's

1921
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:54,639
front of mind for us that we know we

1922
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:56,080
need to encourage that direction.

1923
01:39:54,639 --> 01:40:01,440
» I'll have more to say about the I don't

1924
01:39:56,080 --> 01:40:03,119
want to keep the developer and Kathy. So

1925
01:40:01,440 --> 01:40:04,480
» Appreciate it.

1926
01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:08,600
» We have a resident who signed up to

1927
01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:08,600
speak on this item. Steve Hunt.

1928
01:40:12,639 --> 01:40:16,719
» I'm gonna be real brief because I

1929
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:19,199
misread what I saw on here. I think I

1930
01:40:16,719 --> 01:40:21,520
saw the uh e Oklahoma City Economic

1931
01:40:19,199 --> 01:40:23,280
Development Trust on there and

1932
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:25,840
remembering the words of Oscar Wild

1933
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:28,080
about the people who caused the need for

1934
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:29,199
things and then give us the solutions.

1935
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:31,920
So, it kind of triggered me a little bit

1936
01:40:29,199 --> 01:40:35,880
and then I saw Carella was here so it

1937
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:35,880
kind of All right.

1938
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:41,520
» All right. That concludes citizens who

1939
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:43,840
signed up to speak for this item. Uh we

1940
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,840
could take a motion in a second on item

1941
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:49,639
R, this joint resolution with the

1942
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:49,639
Economic Development Trust.

1943
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:06,239
» All right. Well, we have a motion in a

1944
01:41:04,159 --> 01:41:10,679
second. Cast your votes if you have the

1945
01:41:06,239 --> 01:41:10,679
ability. I would like to vote I.

1946
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:18,400
Passes unanimously. All right. Item S is

1947
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:19,440
a joint resolution with the Oklahoma

1948
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,920
City Economic Development Trust

1949
01:41:19,440 --> 01:41:23,840
approving the allocation of bond

1950
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:27,280
proceeds in an amount not to exceed $2

1951
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:29,920
million for the Villas at Stone Lake

1952
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:32,480
affordable housing project. It's 7404

1953
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,880
Larwood Lane. And we have a

1954
01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:34,320
presentation.

1955
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:36,159
» Yes. Kathy Okconor is going to present

1956
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:38,080
this project as well.

1957
01:41:36,159 --> 01:41:40,000
Thank you. Um, this project is called

1958
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:43,520
the Villas at Stone Lake and it is

1959
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:44,800
located at 7404 Larwood Lane. Um, this

1960
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,400
project is a little bit different than

1961
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:48,880
the last one we just talked about. This

1962
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:53,440
is an existing um, apartment complex

1963
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:55,920
that is um, only about 40% occupied I

1964
01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:59,199
believe at the time. Right now, um, it's

1965
01:41:55,920 --> 01:42:01,760
160 units um,

1966
01:41:59,199 --> 01:42:04,320
» In 14 uh, residential buildings. Again,

1967
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:06,719
this project has uh qualified and has

1968
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:09,760
been allocated low-income housing tax

1969
01:42:06,719 --> 01:42:12,000
credits through OFA. Um it is a a

1970
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:15,360
complete remodel of the facility. You

1971
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:17,520
can go ahead to the next one. Um

1972
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:20,239
this is the location of the project at

1973
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:22,159
about 63rd in MacArthur again in that

1974
01:42:20,239 --> 01:42:24,719
Lerwood Lane area where there are quite

1975
01:42:22,159 --> 01:42:27,040
a few apartment complexes and some of

1976
01:42:24,719 --> 01:42:29,040
them are in need of rehabilitation like

1977
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:30,960
this one.

1978
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:33,040
Um again as I mentioned this is a

1979
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:35,360
complete renovation of the project.

1980
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:38,560
Everything from site improvements to the

1981
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:40,400
exterior the complete interior overhaul

1982
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:43,520
of every unit all the electrical

1983
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:46,000
plumbing um f you know fixtures

1984
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:49,040
everything in it. Um they you know all

1985
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:51,440
of LITC projects have to have ADA

1986
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:55,360
accessibility uh requirements. So those

1987
01:42:51,440 --> 01:42:57,360
will also be added to the project.

1988
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:59,679
This is a breakdown of the units. Again,

1989
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:01,840
this this this is an existing apartment

1990
01:42:59,679 --> 01:43:03,040
complex, so the unit sizes are a little

1991
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:06,960
bit different. These are one and

1992
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:10,000
twobedroom units um that the rents will

1993
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:12,080
range from about $833 a month up to

1994
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:14,400
around $1,200 a month for the two

1995
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:18,080
bedrooms.

1996
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:20,159
Uh project budget is about $28 million.

1997
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:22,320
Um again on the construction time period

1998
01:43:20,159 --> 01:43:25,119
for this one, I think they plan to start

1999
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:30,280
later this year uh early next year on

2000
01:43:25,119 --> 01:43:30,280
the rehab of this um project.

2001
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:37,840
Uh our request for this project is a $2

2002
01:43:33,119 --> 01:43:41,760
million uh loan. Again, uh structured as

2003
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:43,840
uh repayment is deferred until year 18.

2004
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:46,480
Um and it helps to fill the remaining

2005
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:48,480
financing gap that uh the project has

2006
01:43:46,480 --> 01:43:51,840
that is not filled by the permanent loan

2007
01:43:48,480 --> 01:43:56,400
that the LITC equity and um like in the

2008
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:57,840
other project a deferred developer fee.

2009
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:59,520
And this is just a little bit about

2010
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:01,360
where the project is right now. As I

2011
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:03,199
mentioned, it is shovel ready. We've

2012
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:06,000
been awarded our tax credits. This

2013
01:44:03,199 --> 01:44:08,320
affordable housing loan allocation will

2014
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:10,880
help us uh finalize our financing and

2015
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:13,040
get get to closing here in a couple

2016
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:15,760
months.

2017
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:17,280
That's about it. Be glad to take any

2018
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:20,159
questions on this one.

2019
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:21,600
» Is this going to have the same deed

2020
01:44:20,159 --> 01:44:23,920
restriction on the land?

2021
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:25,679
» Yes, I believe it does. Yeah, I'm pretty

2022
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:28,400
sure all of OFA's projects have that

2023
01:44:25,679 --> 01:44:28,719
deed restriction, that 30-year.

2024
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:30,560
» Okay.

2025
01:44:28,719 --> 01:44:32,719
» So, you're really tied to that 30-year

2026
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:34,000
compliance. And what are we doing with

2027
01:44:32,719 --> 01:44:34,480
the current residents?

2028
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:35,679
» Pardon me.

2029
01:44:34,480 --> 01:44:37,520
» What are we going to do with the current

2030
01:44:35,679 --> 01:44:41,040
current residents that are there?

2031
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:43,280
» They will be moved within the project.

2032
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:45,040
As units are rehabbed, they'll be moved

2033
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,600
into new units and then their unit will

2034
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:47,520
be rehabed.

2035
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:49,440
» So, we're not going to displace

2036
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:53,000
» Our plan is to not displace anybody.

2037
01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:53,000
» Okay. Thank you.

2038
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:58,159
» And thank you. because I just did a uh

2039
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,440
transit.

2040
01:44:58,159 --> 01:45:01,040
» You did a check

2041
01:44:59,440 --> 01:45:02,960
» Look to what what it would be like to go

2042
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:05,199
from city hall to these apartments and

2043
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:07,679
there's, you know, right there within a

2044
01:45:05,199 --> 01:45:10,560
couple like not even walking distance

2045
01:45:07,679 --> 01:45:12,000
isn't even the right word for it. But so

2046
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,760
this is the sort of stuff because you

2047
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:15,360
would take the eight to the rapid. So

2048
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:18,600
no, I really like that. So thank you for

2049
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:18,600
thinking here.

2050
01:45:20,239 --> 01:45:26,639
» All right, we can take a motion on item

2051
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,639
S.

2052
01:45:27,440 --> 01:45:31,880
Motion and a second. Cast your votes.

2053
01:45:39,119 --> 01:45:43,360
Passes unanimously.

2054
01:45:41,119 --> 01:45:44,639
Thanks, Kathy. All right. Right. Item T

2055
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:45,679
is a joint resolution with the Oklahoma

2056
01:45:44,639 --> 01:45:47,600
City Economic Development Trust

2057
01:45:45,679 --> 01:45:49,360
certifying that project slate, a

2058
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:50,880
proposed slate of three app distributed

2059
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:53,119
digital productions, is an eligible

2060
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:54,880
project under the uh strategic

2061
01:45:53,119 --> 01:45:56,880
investment programs film incentive

2062
01:45:54,880 --> 01:46:00,280
program. This allocation would not

2063
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:00,280
exceed $57,138

2064
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:04,080
and we have a presentation.

2065
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:05,280
» Yes, Jill Simpson with the Oklahoma City

2066
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:07,920
Film Office.

2067
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:09,920
» Good morning, council members. Uh for

2068
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:14,000
the first time I'm bringing you a slate

2069
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:16,400
of projects and as a reminder for slates

2070
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:19,360
the requirements are different. So for

2071
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:21,280
an episodic single episode for a TV show

2072
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:23,119
is $100,000

2073
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:25,520
but when you have an aggregate of

2074
01:46:23,119 --> 01:46:28,080
multiple episodes that meet 500,000 they

2075
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:31,360
qualify at the 10% level which this one

2076
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:34,880
does. Um, this is what I've called

2077
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:36,880
Project Slate, and it is three episodes

2078
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:39,600
of a faith-based

2079
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:41,520
uh vertical project, which is content

2080
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:45,199
created to go directly to your cell

2081
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:46,480
phone. And I've listed basically the

2082
01:46:45,199 --> 01:46:48,800
descriptions, which you can read

2083
01:46:46,480 --> 01:46:50,960
through. They're all centered around

2084
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:53,840
small communities. This one in at

2085
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:56,639
Christmas time, and they tell family

2086
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:59,520
oriented stories. Um, the people behind

2087
01:46:56,639 --> 01:47:02,639
this are the company is Angel Verticals

2088
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:04,960
LLC, but the Oklahoma City partners are

2089
01:47:02,639 --> 01:47:06,719
BRG Entertainment, which is Brent Ryan

2090
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:09,280
Green of the Green family here in

2091
01:47:06,719 --> 01:47:11,040
Oklahoma City, and LD Entertainment,

2092
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:13,600
which is the Liddell Entertainment

2093
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:15,840
Group. 100% will be filmed in Oklahoma

2094
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:18,880
City. Uh, they're utilizing Oklahoma

2095
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:21,760
City facilities. 98% of the crew is

2096
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:25,920
Oklahoma City based and anticipated

2097
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:29,040
Oklahoma City expenditures total 571,

2098
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:31,040
386, which is 65.4%

2099
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:32,960
of their budget.

2100
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:34,639
Again, this would qualify since it's

2101
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:37,520
above a half million dollars in

2102
01:47:34,639 --> 01:47:40,719
expenditures, it will be the 10% level.

2103
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:44,480
Um, they're meeting the requirements of

2104
01:47:40,719 --> 01:47:46,800
hiring 50% crew, which they'll have 98%.

2105
01:47:44,480 --> 01:47:48,320
They're uh filming more than 50% in

2106
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:50,080
Oklahoma City. They're actually filming

2107
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:54,080
100%.

2108
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:56,639
They will be hiring 71% of local vendors

2109
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:58,159
meeting the 50% requirement. They've

2110
01:47:56,639 --> 01:48:00,719
been pre-qualified by the state of

2111
01:47:58,159 --> 01:48:02,960
Oklahoma and they're using Filmmakers

2112
01:48:00,719 --> 01:48:04,960
Ranch and possibly one set studio in

2113
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:06,960
downtown Oklahoma City. So, I'm

2114
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:09,960
recommending the full 10% which is

2115
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,960
57,38.

2116
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:13,360
I want to add that they could be

2117
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:15,040
potentially bringing a lot more of these

2118
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:18,560
to Oklahoma City, which is great

2119
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:22,239
training for our crew. They're hiring 53

2120
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:23,840
people and over 21 days that equals

2121
01:48:22,239 --> 01:48:28,320
1,113

2122
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:32,440
work days, 98% resident crew. Qualifying

2123
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:32,440
labor income, 277,155.

2124
01:48:34,639 --> 01:48:42,560
And just a snapshot, 100% filming days,

2125
01:48:37,119 --> 01:48:45,520
98% local crew, 71% of vendors.

2126
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:48,320
Total economic impact is 1.3 million for

2127
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:51,600
this project. Uh job supported direct

2128
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:54,600
and indirect are 70. Local labor income

2129
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:54,600
533,468.

2130
01:48:54,639 --> 01:49:00,880
So their qualifying expend expenditures

2131
01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:02,960
of 571 386 break down to taxable

2132
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:05,840
expenditures goods and services of

2133
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:08,800
113,522

2134
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:11,280
below the line crew salaries and pdium

2135
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:13,600
23,721

2136
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:16,480
and above the above the line salary and

2137
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:20,239
pdium at 73,554

2138
01:49:16,480 --> 01:49:23,239
which comes under the 25% cap. Any

2139
01:49:20,239 --> 01:49:23,239
questions?

2140
01:49:24,239 --> 01:49:28,560
» Can I just add a note to you guys? Sure.

2141
01:49:26,480 --> 01:49:30,880
» Copperhead is here on the ground. They

2142
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:33,040
love it here. They are so happy. So,

2143
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:35,600
thank you guys for making it happen.

2144
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:39,320
» Thanks, Joe. All right, we can take a

2145
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:39,320
motion on item T.

2146
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:47,480
We have a motion and a second. Cast your

2147
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:47,480
votes.

2148
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:57,199
passes unanimously.

2149
01:49:54,639 --> 01:50:01,280
All right. Item 11 U are claims

2150
01:49:57,199 --> 01:50:03,840
recommended for denial. Uh we have items

2151
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:06,840
A and B and executive session is not

2152
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:06,840
requested.

2153
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:14,840
We have motion and a second.

2154
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:20,639
passes unanimously.

2155
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:22,880
Item V1 uh is a claim recommended for

2156
01:50:20,639 --> 01:50:25,880
approval. Executive session is not

2157
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:25,880
requested.

2158
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:36,600
We have a motion in a second. Cast your

2159
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:36,600
votes.

2160
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:42,400
Passes unanimously. That concludes votes

2161
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:44,639
for the day. Uh we're now at item 12.

2162
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,199
Comments from council. Ward one. board

2163
01:50:44,639 --> 01:50:48,080
two.

2164
01:50:45,199 --> 01:50:50,800
» Yes. [clears throat] A few things. Uh

2165
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:53,280
first, city manager, or maybe it's for

2166
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:55,280
Amy, and it it doesn't have to be this

2167
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:57,199
meeting. Maybe it could be the next one,

2168
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:58,960
but something that's been on my mind for

2169
01:50:57,199 --> 01:51:00,960
a long time, but then over the weekend

2170
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:03,679
really accelerated.

2171
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:08,320
It could be brief, but I would like for

2172
01:51:03,679 --> 01:51:10,800
the public to hear a walkth through of

2173
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:13,600
not the agenda items, but the agenda

2174
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:17,360
categories like what is concurrence?

2175
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:19,679
What is consent? What is uh items for

2176
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:21,679
individual consideration? Like how what

2177
01:51:19,679 --> 01:51:24,000
like I just don't think I know for a

2178
01:51:21,679 --> 01:51:26,239
fact as someone who until I served on

2179
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:28,320
this body, I had no idea what each of

2180
01:51:26,239 --> 01:51:31,119
those terms were. So for instance, not

2181
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:35,040
even just those items, but uh the

2182
01:51:31,119 --> 01:51:38,639
municipal facilities authority uh or you

2183
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:40,159
know PPA, I just think it just a brief

2184
01:51:38,639 --> 01:51:41,760
like this is what this is, this is why

2185
01:51:40,159 --> 01:51:43,440
items go here, this is what this is,

2186
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:45,679
this is why items go here. And then

2187
01:51:43,440 --> 01:51:47,679
that's something I can clip and I can

2188
01:51:45,679 --> 01:51:50,239
put on social media and it can serve as

2189
01:51:47,679 --> 01:51:51,760
a public education moment. And I've been

2190
01:51:50,239 --> 01:51:54,719
thinking about that for a really long

2191
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:56,320
time. But I whoever needs to do that, um

2192
01:51:54,719 --> 01:51:59,040
I think it would sound better coming

2193
01:51:56,320 --> 01:52:00,400
from two figures of authority in the way

2194
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:02,480
that you all are than it would even from

2195
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:04,480
a council member.

2196
01:52:02,480 --> 01:52:07,199
Um maybe next meeting would be a good

2197
01:52:04,480 --> 01:52:09,440
time to do that. But um so thank you for

2198
01:52:07,199 --> 01:52:10,880
that. And then a question before I have

2199
01:52:09,440 --> 01:52:13,520
some comments. Uh, we had some council

2200
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:14,800
members who went on a trip recently to

2201
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:16,560
Salt Lake City and I was just curious

2202
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:18,480
how your trip went. Your trip went for

2203
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:19,520
the one tranted. How'd it go?

2204
01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:22,047
» It was all right.

2205
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:22,047
» All right. [laughter]

2206
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:29,920
Um well on that note uh I with the

2207
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:33,040
affordable housing conversation earlier

2208
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:35,119
uh I had already planned to ask for this

2209
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:38,320
presentation but I think we would all

2210
01:52:35,119 --> 01:52:41,360
benefit the council and the public for

2211
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:43,520
maybe a bit of a presentation on transit

2212
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:45,679
oriented development. I think that would

2213
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:48,239
go a long way to helping people

2214
01:52:45,679 --> 01:52:51,440
understand

2215
01:52:48,239 --> 01:52:53,119
why we need to be strategic about I

2216
01:52:51,440 --> 01:52:54,719
loved your language earlier councilwoman

2217
01:52:53,119 --> 01:52:56,800
just like being strategic about our

2218
01:52:54,719 --> 01:53:00,320
investments where are opportunities in

2219
01:52:56,800 --> 01:53:02,400
this city uh to do that sort of uh

2220
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:05,280
transit oriented investment whether it's

2221
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:06,800
the maps for southside bus rapid

2222
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:09,040
transits that are coming the northeast

2223
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:12,000
side bus rapid transits that are coming

2224
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:14,159
the current BRT on class and expressway

2225
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:16,400
All right. Uh, and then if voters, God

2226
01:53:14,159 --> 01:53:18,719
help us, actually approve the one

2227
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:20,719
transit election next year, what the

2228
01:53:18,719 --> 01:53:22,480
commuter rail line from Edund to Norman

2229
01:53:20,719 --> 01:53:24,400
to OKC, what development could look like

2230
01:53:22,480 --> 01:53:26,960
along that, what development could look

2231
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:29,040
like heading out to West OKC, what

2232
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:30,880
development could look like on Meridian

2233
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:32,400
Avenue where a light rail is proposed,

2234
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:34,000
what development could look like heading

2235
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:36,000
to the southeast part of our city out to

2236
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:37,840
Tinker could look like. Like I just

2237
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:40,880
really want us, this is such an

2238
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:42,960
incredible moment for not just Oklahoma

2239
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:44,320
City, but for Edmund and Norman. And I

2240
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,760
just really want us to be able to

2241
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:47,599
demonstrate to ourselves and our

2242
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:51,599
residents a sense of intentionality and

2243
01:53:47,599 --> 01:53:54,880
vision and vision. Um, so I'd really

2244
01:53:51,599 --> 01:53:57,760
like for uh a presentation and examples

2245
01:53:54,880 --> 01:54:01,520
like I want people to see what multi- uh

2246
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:05,040
use developments do and could look like.

2247
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:06,960
uh what uh mixeduse developments, what

2248
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:09,440
mixed income developments could look

2249
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:11,040
like as opposed to what we did 30 and 60

2250
01:54:09,440 --> 01:54:12,639
years ago where we just said here all

2251
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:14,960
you poor people, you go live in these

2252
01:54:12,639 --> 01:54:16,560
apartments over here and the stigma that

2253
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:18,880
lingers with us because of those

2254
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:21,520
decisions, right? What happens when you

2255
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:23,360
have um subsidized units alongside

2256
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:24,960
market rate units? So, I just I I would

2257
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,960
really like to see that. I think that

2258
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:28,560
would help all of us think more

2259
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:30,239
strategically about where we need to be

2260
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:33,199
advocating in each of our respective

2261
01:54:30,239 --> 01:54:37,440
wards for that sort of development.

2262
01:54:33,199 --> 01:54:39,760
Um, relatedly, just a few other items. I

2263
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:43,760
would also appreciate an update on the

2264
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:45,760
maps for trees project. Uh, this is on

2265
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:48,880
my mind because if you have dared to

2266
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:52,239
walk even to your car in the last few

2267
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:55,199
weeks, you notice how hot it is. and we

2268
01:54:52,239 --> 01:54:58,880
live on a prairie and this also gives us

2269
01:54:55,199 --> 01:55:01,199
an intention uh an intentional moment to

2270
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:04,239
uh think about the maps for funding for

2271
01:55:01,199 --> 01:55:07,920
trees. I promise you whether it's OKC

2272
01:55:04,239 --> 01:55:09,599
beautiful or other entities OG& there

2273
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:14,320
are public private partnerships out

2274
01:55:09,599 --> 01:55:17,360
there waiting for us to create an um

2275
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:20,080
urban canopy when it comes to trees. Um,

2276
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:22,800
we have heat map data where people

2277
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:25,360
volunteered to see where it's the

2278
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:27,040
hottest all across our city where, you

2279
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:28,719
know, just have giant stretches of

2280
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:30,800
asphalt parking lot and then you have

2281
01:55:28,719 --> 01:55:34,000
that hot Oklahoma sun just pouring down

2282
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:36,320
at 107°. What if there were trees there

2283
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:38,560
for your children, for seniors, for you?

2284
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:40,320
And we have funded those, but I have yet

2285
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:42,080
to hear a plan on where they're going.

2286
01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:44,080
And again, we can be data driven and

2287
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:45,840
intentional. So, I really would like an

2288
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:49,679
update on that.

2289
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:53,840
um relatedly on that same um maps for

2290
01:55:49,679 --> 01:55:56,159
docket was uh street lights and you know

2291
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:58,239
when I've knocked doors uh and I've

2292
01:55:56,159 --> 01:56:00,560
knocked till it gets dark and it gets

2293
01:55:58,239 --> 01:56:02,800
dark in neighborhoods and again from

2294
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:04,560
seniors to children I think we need to

2295
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:06,719
be uh I'd like an update we've already

2296
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:08,800
funded it voters approved it so I just

2297
01:56:06,719 --> 01:56:10,480
wanted to hear like what data are we

2298
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:12,080
using to determine where these street

2299
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:14,880
lights are going and in my mind street

2300
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:16,960
lights and trees are like priority right

2301
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:19,119
And anytime it's July and August, you

2302
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:20,639
have that reminder of the priority. So

2303
01:56:19,119 --> 01:56:23,360
I'd like to hear an update on that,

2304
01:56:20,639 --> 01:56:25,360
please. And then finally, again, keeping

2305
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:27,119
with the maps for it all. I'm so

2306
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:29,119
excited. I remember when Mayor came to

2307
01:56:27,119 --> 01:56:31,040
me back in 2019 and said

2308
01:56:29,119 --> 01:56:32,320
beautifification. I don't know what it's

2309
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:33,599
going to mean yet, but we're going to do

2310
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:34,960
it and we're going to have an endowment

2311
01:56:33,599 --> 01:56:38,320
along with it. I mean, I just thought it

2312
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:41,679
was a very inventive moment um from you.

2313
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:44,719
And so, uh, I hear from residents

2314
01:56:41,679 --> 01:56:47,599
regularly about the cleanliness of OKC

2315
01:56:44,719 --> 01:56:49,280
or sometimes the lack thereof. And I

2316
01:56:47,599 --> 01:56:50,560
would like an update on where we're

2317
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:52,239
heading with some of these projects. So,

2318
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:57,440
let me give you an example. I was

2319
01:56:52,239 --> 01:56:59,520
driving over I44 and 63rd Street and we

2320
01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:02,560
have new sidewalks that are there over

2321
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:05,440
the bridge and there's just grass just

2322
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:07,679
growing over the sidewalk. So, if you

2323
01:57:05,440 --> 01:57:09,360
have a wheelchair or you have a

2324
01:57:07,679 --> 01:57:12,159
stroller,

2325
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:14,400
what does your connectivity look like uh

2326
01:57:12,159 --> 01:57:16,320
to Sprouts up the road, right? Or to

2327
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:18,880
Mayflower Church on the other side like

2328
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:21,440
or to your home. And so, I just really

2329
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:23,679
want want us to hear where we're heading

2330
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:26,320
with the beautifification. And I want us

2331
01:57:23,679 --> 01:57:27,840
again to conclude there to think about,

2332
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:30,159
you know, we have a street cleaner

2333
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:31,599
downtown. That street cleaner does not

2334
01:57:30,159 --> 01:57:33,360
exist really anywhere else in the city.

2335
01:57:31,599 --> 01:57:35,520
I do love, by the way, city manager, we

2336
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:37,199
have the cleaning uh capabilities for

2337
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:38,639
some of the bike lanes now. I think that

2338
01:57:37,199 --> 01:57:39,920
is a wonderful step in the right

2339
01:57:38,639 --> 01:57:43,920
direction. But I just hear from

2340
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:47,119
residents too often about, you know, the

2341
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:49,119
collection of of litter and trash on our

2342
01:57:47,119 --> 01:57:50,639
trails, on our sidewalks, on our

2343
01:57:49,119 --> 01:57:53,360
neighborhood streets, our arterial

2344
01:57:50,639 --> 01:57:55,599
roads. And I would like to see us uh

2345
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:57,280
move with some intention in those ways.

2346
01:57:55,599 --> 01:57:59,920
Um

2347
01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:02,080
it's it's it what we see determines our

2348
01:57:59,920 --> 01:58:04,159
perception of reality and the perception

2349
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:05,760
of the city and so again

2350
01:58:04,159 --> 01:58:10,480
beautifification cleaning street lights

2351
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:13,040
trees to then that agenda um walkth

2352
01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:17,040
through would be very very useful. So I

2353
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:19,119
appreciate you all. Thank you.

2354
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:20,639
» Thank you. W three.

2355
01:58:19,119 --> 01:58:23,040
» W four.

2356
01:58:20,639 --> 01:58:24,320
» Thank you Mary. Mayor.

2357
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:26,800
» Sorry, mayor.

2358
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:28,320
» I know I'm well aware that mayor is also

2359
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:28,800
what you call your wife,

2360
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:29,599
» Right?

2361
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:30,480
» Maryanne.

2362
01:58:29,599 --> 01:58:32,320
» Yeah. [laughter]

2363
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:33,599
» So, I know that this I know that this

2364
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:34,960
has always been for as long as you've

2365
01:58:33,599 --> 01:58:35,199
been on the council an issue for you.

2366
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:36,800
Yeah.

2367
01:58:35,199 --> 01:58:39,520
» Right.

2368
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:42,800
Um, you know, last Friday I was able to

2369
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:44,880
attend the uh MT Barry funeral, uh,

2370
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:48,880
which is very sad, but it was really

2371
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:53,440
just a a fantastic celebration

2372
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:55,840
uh, of his life and, you know, not just

2373
01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:58,320
his life, but all the different things

2374
01:58:55,840 --> 01:59:01,440
that he brought to this city, that he

2375
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:03,440
brought to his community, to his family,

2376
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:06,320
and to different friends. And I would

2377
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:10,000
just like to uh thank everyone that was

2378
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:12,960
able to speak at that. Um

2379
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:15,840
they did a fantastic job and it just it

2380
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:18,320
turned out to be a really nice event. I

2381
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:20,800
served with him on some committees and I

2382
01:59:18,320 --> 01:59:22,960
always appreciated him very drastically

2383
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:27,440
and how he worked. So thank you.

2384
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:29,360
» Thank you. W five. W seven.

2385
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:31,679
» Thank you, Mayor. Just one thing in

2386
01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:33,599
response to Councilman Cooper. I do

2387
01:59:31,679 --> 01:59:35,679
think it'd be a good idea for us to take

2388
01:59:33,599 --> 01:59:38,239
the time to get educated on multif

2389
01:59:35,679 --> 01:59:40,239
family housing, all of that. And I think

2390
01:59:38,239 --> 01:59:42,080
that that fits very well with the zoning

2391
01:59:40,239 --> 01:59:43,360
code update that is ongoing and the

2392
01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:45,440
conversations that are happening in the

2393
01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:47,360
public. So perhaps a study session with

2394
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:50,320
the planning commission would be a good

2395
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:51,760
idea for us to um continue to inform

2396
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:53,840
ourselves about best practice and

2397
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:56,400
strategies to ensure that we are acting

2398
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:58,000
consistently with one another. Um, but I

2399
01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:59,920
would I would support that because I

2400
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:01,119
think the the other challenge that

2401
01:59:59,920 --> 02:00:03,119
wasn't mentioned when we talked about

2402
02:00:01,119 --> 02:00:06,159
the affordable housing going on, moving

2403
02:00:03,119 --> 02:00:08,639
into that far part of of Oklahoma City

2404
02:00:06,159 --> 02:00:09,920
that we voted on today is that it's very

2405
02:00:08,639 --> 02:00:12,080
hard to get the land and the

2406
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:13,199
entitlements in the urban core. Um,

2407
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:15,440
especially when you're talking about

2408
02:00:13,199 --> 02:00:17,040
building at scale like this development

2409
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:19,440
is. And that's ultimately what led me to

2410
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:21,360
my yes vote. But but I do completely

2411
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:22,800
agree with you, Councilman Cooper, that

2412
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:24,880
we need to be trying to build more

2413
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:26,320
affordable housing near transit and

2414
02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:29,119
continue to expand our trans public

2415
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:32,800
transit options. So, um so that's one.

2416
02:00:29,119 --> 02:00:35,760
Two, um I had the the pleasure of

2417
02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:37,520
joining, uh Councilman's Hinkle and

2418
02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:39,199
Stone in Salt Lake City, as well as

2419
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:41,760
assistant city manager Fairbrush and the

2420
02:00:39,199 --> 02:00:45,280
great one transit team. It was great to

2421
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:47,840
to see um Salt Lake City's um public

2422
02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:50,000
transit system. The light rail was very

2423
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:52,159
impressive. It was very clean. I've

2424
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:54,400
always felt safe. It was certainly a

2425
02:00:52,159 --> 02:00:56,320
very good model for us to con u to look

2426
02:00:54,400 --> 02:00:58,560
at for Oklahoma City in the future. And

2427
02:00:56,320 --> 02:01:00,719
so just excited to see the the one

2428
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:02,400
transit conversation continue to go

2429
02:01:00,719 --> 02:01:03,920
forward because this is a really

2430
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:06,639
exciting opportunity for us to really

2431
02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:08,000
make our city um just continue to build

2432
02:01:06,639 --> 02:01:09,360
it up. So I'm just very excited about

2433
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:11,920
the work and and appreciate all the

2434
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:13,040
effort that went into the trip.

2435
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:15,199
» Word.

2436
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:16,480
» Yes. I want to thank Maryanne Carter.

2437
02:01:15,199 --> 02:01:18,880
For those of you that don't know her,

2438
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:20,639
she's chair of the National Endowment

2439
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:23,280
for the Arts, and she has determined

2440
02:01:20,639 --> 02:01:25,440
that Oklahoma City is a wonderful arts

2441
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:27,599
haven. She was on a two two-day tour

2442
02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:30,320
here with representative Tom Cole and

2443
02:01:27,599 --> 02:01:32,560
others where they toured FAM National

2444
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:34,719
Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum,

2445
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:36,560
Oklahoma City National Memorial and

2446
02:01:34,719 --> 02:01:38,560
Museum, the State Capital Art

2447
02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:41,440
Collection, the Oklahoma Contemporary

2448
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:44,080
Arts Center, the Oklahoma City Ballet,

2449
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:46,239
uh, and other other art communities uh,

2450
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:48,480
within Oklahoma City. The one thing that

2451
02:01:46,239 --> 02:01:50,320
stood out to me of what she said was, "I

2452
02:01:48,480 --> 02:01:52,239
feel like Oklahoma City has so much to

2453
02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:54,560
offer." And a lot of people don't think

2454
02:01:52,239 --> 02:01:56,960
about Oklahoma City as an art haven, but

2455
02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:59,199
this is a chance for me now to go spread

2456
02:01:56,960 --> 02:02:01,440
that word to the world. We have a great

2457
02:01:59,199 --> 02:02:03,119
city. We have a great city for art, and

2458
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:04,800
I encourage people to come and see us.

2459
02:02:03,119 --> 02:02:06,400
Thank you.

2460
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:08,800
» Thank you. We're now on item 13,

2461
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:10,400
citizens to be heard. We have We'll

2462
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:12,080
start if everyone would state their name

2463
02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:14,639
and address and keep your remarks to

2464
02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:16,960
three minutes or less. The clerk will

2465
02:02:14,639 --> 02:02:18,560
remind you when you have 30 seconds

2466
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:21,560
left. Uh we'll start with Kevin

2467
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,560
McDaniel.

2468
02:02:32,639 --> 02:02:40,480
Good morning. Still morning actually. Um

2469
02:02:36,719 --> 02:02:42,159
TE McDaniel Ward 7. Um, I always come up

2470
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:43,440
here like thinking that I know what I'm

2471
02:02:42,159 --> 02:02:45,280
gonna talk about and then the meeting

2472
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:47,760
has so many other things that have just

2473
02:02:45,280 --> 02:02:50,000
been um, interesting to me that I feel

2474
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:52,480
like I have to speak on it. So, first,

2475
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:54,400
thank you uh, Councilman Cooper for your

2476
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:56,960
questions um, and your sort of

2477
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:59,360
understanding and grasp of what we

2478
02:02:56,960 --> 02:03:02,000
actually need to sort of grow as a city

2479
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:03,920
in order to actually care for the people

2480
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:05,360
um, that we're trying to care for when

2481
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:07,280
we're talking about affordable housing,

2482
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:09,840
when we're talking about transportation.

2483
02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:12,880
Um I think those are much needed

2484
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:15,840
questions to be answered. Um and I think

2485
02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:17,119
that sort of brings me to um as you all

2486
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:18,960
know I'm always here talking about

2487
02:03:17,119 --> 02:03:20,719
participatory budgeting right and like

2488
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:23,520
how are we getting the people more

2489
02:03:20,719 --> 02:03:26,639
involved in these processes. Um I think

2490
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:28,480
this is also between this between flock

2491
02:03:26,639 --> 02:03:31,840
um the contracts. I feel like this is

2492
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:33,679
all coming to we need more participation

2493
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:35,840
throughout all of these processes

2494
02:03:33,679 --> 02:03:38,080
throughout all of these meetings. Um

2495
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:40,239
because again, not everybody can show up

2496
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:41,840
in these places. Um we've been trying to

2497
02:03:40,239 --> 02:03:43,440
figure out for the last few weeks,

2498
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:44,639
really over the last month, what is

2499
02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:45,760
going to happen on flock? What are we

2500
02:03:44,639 --> 02:03:48,080
going to do with the surveillance here

2501
02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:50,320
in Oklahoma City? Um as flock cameras

2502
02:03:48,080 --> 02:03:52,639
are still being put up, as people are

2503
02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:55,199
still being surveiled. Um we still

2504
02:03:52,639 --> 02:03:56,800
haven't gotten an answer on why um

2505
02:03:55,199 --> 02:03:58,400
whether we're going to sign the contract

2506
02:03:56,800 --> 02:04:00,560
and continue this thing or whether we're

2507
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:02,960
not. Right. And as Homebase has said, as

2508
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:05,199
Oklahomaans for Privacy has said, um we

2509
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:07,440
don't need surveillance um in Oklahoma

2510
02:04:05,199 --> 02:04:10,480
City, right? It has been nothing but

2511
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:13,280
data proven dangerous and been used in

2512
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:15,280
ways that are not um safe for our

2513
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:17,599
community members. And so, how are we

2514
02:04:15,280 --> 02:04:20,080
actually making these spaces and these

2515
02:04:17,599 --> 02:04:21,920
places accessible for people who have

2516
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:23,599
jobs, for people who have to take care

2517
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:26,320
of their families, who can't show up

2518
02:04:23,599 --> 02:04:28,320
here at 8:30, right? I look at Tulsa,

2519
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:30,880
they get to have city council meetings

2520
02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:33,199
after work from 6:00 to 8. They get to

2521
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:34,719
have much more people um who can

2522
02:04:33,199 --> 02:04:37,119
actually come and have conversations

2523
02:04:34,719 --> 02:04:39,199
with you. I think back to 2020 when we

2524
02:04:37,119 --> 02:04:41,760
had to move these conversations online

2525
02:04:39,199 --> 02:04:44,080
and you had much more of an influx of

2526
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:46,719
people who could actually give you the

2527
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:48,560
advice and their life experiences needed

2528
02:04:46,719 --> 02:04:50,880
to make a lot of the decisions you all

2529
02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:55,280
make behind closed doors without the the

2530
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:57,599
the um without the credible resources

2531
02:04:55,280 --> 02:04:59,040
and experience givers that are the

2532
02:04:57,599 --> 02:05:01,360
community members who are actually

2533
02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:03,840
living through these decisions that you

2534
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:06,560
all make that have been harmful, right?

2535
02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:08,480
to say the least for a long period of

2536
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:10,159
time. Um, and now we're getting to a

2537
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:12,560
place where at least we're getting some

2538
02:05:10,159 --> 02:05:14,159
conversations. Um, and not everybody has

2539
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:15,920
the blessing of me to be able to work

2540
02:05:14,159 --> 02:05:18,639
for an organization that I got to

2541
02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:20,639
co-ound, where my job is to come and

2542
02:05:18,639 --> 02:05:22,719
organize and tell people the decisions

2543
02:05:20,639 --> 02:05:24,719
you make to the people who are actually

2544
02:05:22,719 --> 02:05:26,000
affected by them and saying, "Well, if

2545
02:05:24,719 --> 02:05:27,840
we can provide you with some of the

2546
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:29,840
resources that our city council is not

2547
02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:31,599
providing us with, maybe that will give

2548
02:05:29,840 --> 02:05:33,280
you more space to engage in these

2549
02:05:31,599 --> 02:05:35,360
processes. Maybe that will give you more

2550
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:37,599
space to engage with your neighbors. But

2551
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:39,199
in fact, this body has not been

2552
02:05:37,599 --> 02:05:40,960
providing those resources. So people

2553
02:05:39,199 --> 02:05:43,360
can't show up because people have to

2554
02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:45,599
take care of themselves first and that

2555
02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:48,239
mean coming into this space. And so I

2556
02:05:45,599 --> 02:05:50,000
want to continue to make this possible

2557
02:05:48,239 --> 02:05:50,719
for people and y'all have to do that

2558
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:54,520
from that horse.

2559
02:05:50,719 --> 02:05:54,520
» Isn't here?

2560
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:08,400
Good morning.

2561
02:06:03,679 --> 02:06:10,800
I am here representing Ward 7. Um I

2562
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:13,199
basing my information off of the maps

2563
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:15,760
that are available on our um

2564
02:06:13,199 --> 02:06:18,320
governmental website. Um, but I

2565
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:21,199
represent um I'm present as a resident

2566
02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:22,719
of W 7 here to respectfully submit an

2567
02:06:21,199 --> 02:06:24,400
enclosed petition requesting the

2568
02:06:22,719 --> 02:06:26,719
planning and construction of two new

2569
02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:30,000
Oklahoma City Fire Department stations

2570
02:06:26,719 --> 02:06:32,000
east of Interstate 35 within Ward 7. Um,

2571
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:34,239
this proposal is based on on the growing

2572
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:35,679
public safety concern that has existed

2573
02:06:34,239 --> 02:06:38,320
for years and deserves careful

2574
02:06:35,679 --> 02:06:40,560
consideration of our community

2575
02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:42,400
as our community continues to develop.

2576
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:45,679
Currently, there are no Oklahoma City

2577
02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:47,760
fire stations located east of I35 within

2578
02:06:45,679 --> 02:06:49,920
Ward 7, despite the present of

2579
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:52,000
established residential neighborhoods,

2580
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:54,400
expanding commercial development,

2581
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:56,400
industrial businesses, and undeveloped

2582
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:58,560
land that can contribute to rapidly

2583
02:06:56,400 --> 02:07:00,560
spreading grass and brush fires.

2584
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:03,280
Residents and businesses in the area

2585
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:05,599
primarily rely on fire department 18 and

2586
02:07:03,280 --> 02:07:07,599
12 for emergency response. And while

2587
02:07:05,599 --> 02:07:09,119
these stations serve have served our

2588
02:07:07,599 --> 02:07:12,079
community with professionalism and

2589
02:07:09,119 --> 02:07:14,480
dedication, they're located west of I35

2590
02:07:12,079 --> 02:07:17,040
and must often navigate heavily travel

2591
02:07:14,480 --> 02:07:19,920
corridors such as Northeast 23rd,

2592
02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:22,719
Northeast 36th, and congested Interstate

2593
02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:25,119
35 overpasses um before actually

2594
02:07:22,719 --> 02:07:27,599
reaching the emergency east of the

2595
02:07:25,119 --> 02:07:29,920
interstate. And so every minute matters

2596
02:07:27,599 --> 02:07:32,400
during a fire emergency. Um delays

2597
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:34,320
caused by traffic congestion, railroad

2598
02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:36,159
crossings, roadway bottlenecks, and

2599
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:38,719
interstate crossings can significantly

2600
02:07:36,159 --> 02:07:40,400
impact the outcome of fire, increasing

2601
02:07:38,719 --> 02:07:42,000
the potential for property loss,

2602
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:45,040
environmental damage, and threats to

2603
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:47,920
public safety. Um the eastern portion of

2604
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:50,239
W 7 um consists of a number of

2605
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:52,639
industrial and commercial operations

2606
02:07:50,239 --> 02:07:55,199
that because of the nature of the

2607
02:07:52,639 --> 02:07:58,000
businesses present elevated fire risks

2608
02:07:55,199 --> 02:08:00,320
if an incident were to occur. And just a

2609
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:03,360
few of these businesses, I rode with my

2610
02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:05,679
mom up I35 just to verify, but just a

2611
02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:09,280
few of these is um Insurance, Auto

2612
02:08:05,679 --> 02:08:11,440
Auctions, um Across Chemicals, Hecro

2613
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:14,800
Rentals, Fireworks Warehouse, Oklahoma

2614
02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:17,520
City, um Craft Tank Corporation, and

2615
02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:20,639
Action Gypsum Supply. These facilities

2616
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:22,320
store and or utilize vehic uh vehicles,

2617
02:08:20,639 --> 02:08:24,719
industrial equipment, chemicals,

2618
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:26,719
combustible building materials, fuel

2619
02:08:24,719 --> 02:08:29,199
systems, fireworks, and other products

2620
02:08:26,719 --> 02:08:31,599
that may require specialized uh

2621
02:08:29,199 --> 02:08:33,520
firefighting resources. And while these

2622
02:08:31,599 --> 02:08:36,320
businesses undoubtedly comply with

2623
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:38,480
applicable building codes and maintain

2624
02:08:36,320 --> 02:08:40,639
insurance coverage, those safeguards do

2625
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:43,599
not eliminate the potential for impact

2626
02:08:40,639 --> 02:08:47,360
of a fire if they were to arise. And so

2627
02:08:43,599 --> 02:08:49,440
I'm petitioning for the city council to

2628
02:08:47,360 --> 02:08:52,159
consider to initiate a comprehensive

2629
02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:55,040
fire service service coverage study of W

2630
02:08:52,159 --> 02:08:57,119
7 east of I35. Evaluate the current

2631
02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:59,040
emergency response times and projected

2632
02:08:57,119 --> 02:09:01,119
future service demands. Identify

2633
02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:04,079
potential sites for two strategically

2634
02:09:01,119 --> 02:09:06,320
placed fire stations east of I35 and

2635
02:09:04,079 --> 02:09:08,239
include these stations as a primary uh

2636
02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:10,480
priority in future capital improvement

2637
02:09:08,239 --> 02:09:13,440
planning and budget discussions. Um, I

2638
02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:15,440
did also email this petition to um, Ward

2639
02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:17,840
7. Pennington, you should have this.

2640
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:20,079
It's not all that I have to say. Um, but

2641
02:09:17,840 --> 02:09:22,000
this is just the start of if we actually

2642
02:09:20,079 --> 02:09:23,840
want to enrich Oklahoma City,

2643
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:26,159
specifically W 7, because that is where

2644
02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:28,159
I reside. Um, so that is where my

2645
02:09:26,159 --> 02:09:29,599
concern is.

2646
02:09:28,159 --> 02:09:31,280
» I may have misunderstood. Did you say

2647
02:09:29,599 --> 02:09:32,719
you believe there are no Oklahoma City

2648
02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:36,400
fire stations east of I35?

2649
02:09:32,719 --> 02:09:38,719
» Uh, based on the the map at on the our

2650
02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:40,800
website, I actually printed off our ward

2651
02:09:38,719 --> 02:09:43,599
map. Um, and then I printed off the fire

2652
02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:45,360
stations on that same exact map. I don't

2653
02:09:43,599 --> 02:09:46,239
know if Oklahoma needs to update their

2654
02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:48,159
maps, but

2655
02:09:46,239 --> 02:09:50,159
» So, we have a we do have a map of fire

2656
02:09:48,159 --> 02:09:53,040
stations on our OKC.gov website, and

2657
02:09:50,159 --> 02:09:55,599
there are two east of I35 in Ward 7, uh,

2658
02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:57,040
station 27 and station 4.

2659
02:09:55,599 --> 02:09:58,079
» I'll you can you can actually have this.

2660
02:09:57,040 --> 02:09:59,760
I have a copy of this.

2661
02:09:58,079 --> 02:10:01,199
» Okay. Well, we'll certainly whatever

2662
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:03,280
that came from, we'll need to update it,

2663
02:10:01,199 --> 02:10:05,360
but we have a fire station map and and

2664
02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:06,800
we have two fire stations east of I35.

2665
02:10:05,360 --> 02:10:08,320
Well, that's what's on the government

2666
02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:11,040
website and that's the information that

2667
02:10:08,320 --> 02:10:13,679
I'm basing my my words on.

2668
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:16,400
» All right. Well, we've got two. So,

2669
02:10:13,679 --> 02:10:18,320
» Well, we need two more.

2670
02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:20,480
I don't I don't think I don't think

2671
02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:21,840
that's uh I mean

2672
02:10:20,480 --> 02:10:23,599
» I mean if you look at if you look at

2673
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:26,400
that map and you see how congested fire

2674
02:10:23,599 --> 02:10:29,599
stations west of I35 in certain

2675
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:31,280
particular areas there's they're there

2676
02:10:29,599 --> 02:10:34,000
residents are more accessible to those

2677
02:10:31,280 --> 02:10:35,840
fire stations and emergency resources if

2678
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:37,920
something were to happen where I

2679
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:40,639
actually live in Ward 7 if something

2680
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:44,079
were to occur because Oklahoma is not

2681
02:10:40,639 --> 02:10:48,000
consistent or in a in a rush to fix

2682
02:10:44,079 --> 02:10:49,440
roads. Um, you guys like to keep trains

2683
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:50,480
stopped on the on railroads.

2684
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:51,440
» We don't have any control.

2685
02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:52,079
» So, yeah.

2686
02:10:51,440 --> 02:10:54,239
» Um,

2687
02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:59,639
» Okay. Amber Ramsey,

2688
02:10:54,239 --> 02:10:59,639
» Happy to visit with you. I'll reach out.

2689
02:11:06,320 --> 02:11:09,679
» Good morning, honorable mayor and

2690
02:11:08,159 --> 02:11:11,040
council members. I'm going to kind of

2691
02:11:09,679 --> 02:11:14,239
talk to the side because they apply

2692
02:11:11,040 --> 02:11:16,960
mostly to me. My name is Amber Ramsey. I

2693
02:11:14,239 --> 02:11:19,840
live at 2838 Cheyenne Way, Piedmont,

2694
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:21,280
Oklahoma. I actually work at a place

2695
02:11:19,840 --> 02:11:24,000
that will be impacted by the decision

2696
02:11:21,280 --> 02:11:25,679
you just made. Um, I'm a wife, a mother,

2697
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:27,520
a Republican, and I hope you guys can

2698
02:11:25,679 --> 02:11:30,320
look at me and listen to me when I talk.

2699
02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:32,079
It's important.

2700
02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:34,239
I work in a profession where I serve the

2701
02:11:32,079 --> 02:11:38,320
people of this great state every single

2702
02:11:34,239 --> 02:11:41,119
day, much like you. And I still believe

2703
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:43,920
in our government, a government by and

2704
02:11:41,119 --> 02:11:45,920
for the people. I would like to share

2705
02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:48,400
some numbers with you today. In

2706
02:11:45,920 --> 02:11:51,040
Piedmont, Kingfisher County, and

2707
02:11:48,400 --> 02:11:52,560
Canadian County, there are third um

2708
02:11:51,040 --> 02:11:56,079
1,332

2709
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:59,679
acres. In Okie and King Fischer, 292

2710
02:11:56,079 --> 02:12:03,280
acres, Cashion and Logan County, 509

2711
02:11:59,679 --> 02:12:07,920
acres. Yukon and Oklahoma City, 546

2712
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:11,199
acres. Luther, 320 acres. all in

2713
02:12:07,920 --> 02:12:13,599
disclosed land options or announced

2714
02:12:11,199 --> 02:12:15,599
projects for data centers. Those are the

2715
02:12:13,599 --> 02:12:17,199
land options that we know about. And

2716
02:12:15,599 --> 02:12:18,639
please don't stop listening because I

2717
02:12:17,199 --> 02:12:20,719
said that word data center. I know it's

2718
02:12:18,639 --> 02:12:23,280
a hot topic.

2719
02:12:20,719 --> 02:12:27,440
This is all immediately in our region.

2720
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:29,520
300 acres. It's not one data center or

2721
02:12:27,440 --> 02:12:33,400
just one city. It's an entire grid

2722
02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:33,400
impacting the whole region.

2723
02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:41,800
It's 3,000 total acres near homes in its

2724
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:41,800
co-located energy facilities.

2725
02:12:42,239 --> 02:12:46,880
The question is is where does it end?

2726
02:12:44,800 --> 02:12:48,800
Per the CEO of Cloverleaf at our last

2727
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:52,159
city council meeting, and I quote him

2728
02:12:48,800 --> 02:12:54,480
exactly, it ends at the capacity of the

2729
02:12:52,159 --> 02:12:58,079
electric grid.

2730
02:12:54,480 --> 02:13:01,199
That's terrifying, but I disagree.

2731
02:12:58,079 --> 02:13:04,320
It ends with you.

2732
02:13:01,199 --> 02:13:08,079
Just as stated in that prayer, you set

2733
02:13:04,320 --> 02:13:09,920
the standard for this state.

2734
02:13:08,079 --> 02:13:11,840
You set the standard for Oklahoma and

2735
02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:14,800
this nation.

2736
02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:17,520
You speak for the people.

2737
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:19,520
You have to lead with compassion for

2738
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:21,280
your constituents. You have to have

2739
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:23,280
empathy for the fears they're having

2740
02:13:21,280 --> 02:13:27,320
right now. You have to at least try and

2741
02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:27,320
listen and look at me when I talk.

2742
02:13:30,639 --> 02:13:34,639
Mr. Cooper, I can tell your empathy. I

2743
02:13:33,040 --> 02:13:36,960
can feel it. You can tell you're a real

2744
02:13:34,639 --> 02:13:38,000
person. Miss Avers, I've watched you.

2745
02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:39,040
You're listening.

2746
02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:42,239
» 30 seconds remaining.

2747
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:44,320
» Mr. Carter, it's easy to make decisions

2748
02:13:42,239 --> 02:13:48,239
on your boundaries that you don't think

2749
02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:50,159
impact you, but they do. We do not have

2750
02:13:48,239 --> 02:13:52,480
the water for this for all of these data

2751
02:13:50,159 --> 02:13:54,480
centers. But it's not fair to make

2752
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:57,520
decisions on your borders that impact

2753
02:13:54,480 --> 02:14:00,320
the cities around you and it's not fair.

2754
02:13:57,520 --> 02:14:02,000
You are in a position of leadership.

2755
02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:05,040
There's a lot of weight to that and you

2756
02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:06,560
do set that standard. I hope and I pray

2757
02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:08,880
for each and every single one of you

2758
02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:10,239
that you can handle that weight and that

2759
02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:12,880
you can look at what's happening in our

2760
02:14:10,239 --> 02:14:14,960
region. Please take a bigger look. Look

2761
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:18,560
around you, not in the small picture,

2762
02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:18,560
the big picture. Thank you.

2763
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:22,119
Adam Slatterie.

2764
02:14:32,639 --> 02:14:38,880
» Adam Slattery, 2330 Shell Creek Road,

2765
02:14:36,159 --> 02:14:41,360
Oklahoma City, Yukon, wherever. Mr.

2766
02:14:38,880 --> 02:14:44,000
Mayor, I think she was talking to you.

2767
02:14:41,360 --> 02:14:46,960
You didn't look up one time when she was

2768
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:49,119
addressing you. It's disrespectful.

2769
02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:50,719
Still don't choose to look up at me.

2770
02:14:49,119 --> 02:14:52,560
Okay.

2771
02:14:50,719 --> 02:14:55,199
So, I'll start now. Once again, for the

2772
02:14:52,560 --> 02:14:57,840
ninth time, I've planned my week around

2773
02:14:55,199 --> 02:15:02,639
being here on a Tuesday expecting to

2774
02:14:57,840 --> 02:15:05,040
hear PUD 20 21105 2124.

2775
02:15:02,639 --> 02:15:07,040
Why? because I'll be damned if I sit and

2776
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:09,920
listen to another meeting like February

2777
02:15:07,040 --> 02:15:12,639
10th where Councilman Stone Cipher,

2778
02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:15,360
Councilman Carter,

2779
02:15:12,639 --> 02:15:18,000
criticized, belittled a council woman I

2780
02:15:15,360 --> 02:15:21,840
voted for.

2781
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:23,840
Um because as stated, there wasn't

2782
02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:26,639
anybody present to speak in opposition

2783
02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:28,159
to a pud that many neighbors believed

2784
02:15:26,639 --> 02:15:30,480
was not in the best interest of our

2785
02:15:28,159 --> 02:15:33,040
community.

2786
02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:35,040
the despite those concerns being

2787
02:15:33,040 --> 02:15:37,520
expressed in writing, the PUD was

2788
02:15:35,040 --> 02:15:39,679
ultimately pushed forward and approved

2789
02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:43,520
because why the threat that the

2790
02:15:39,679 --> 02:15:46,320
landowner would lose the deal.

2791
02:15:43,520 --> 02:15:48,719
Is that the same treatment we can expect

2792
02:15:46,320 --> 02:15:52,560
when PUD 21105

2793
02:15:48,719 --> 02:15:54,719
2124 is finally heard

2794
02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:56,320
after nine deferrals? Are we going to

2795
02:15:54,719 --> 02:15:59,440
rubber stamp this because the deal may

2796
02:15:56,320 --> 02:16:01,840
fall through for the owner? [snorts]

2797
02:15:59,440 --> 02:16:05,840
And what are we doing here? Every one of

2798
02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:07,360
you is elected to serve the people and

2799
02:16:05,840 --> 02:16:10,079
represent

2800
02:16:07,360 --> 02:16:11,599
the will of the constituents,

2801
02:16:10,079 --> 02:16:14,880
not to make decisions based the

2802
02:16:11,599 --> 02:16:16,719
possibility of land deal falling through

2803
02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:19,360
being sued by a multi-billion dollar

2804
02:16:16,719 --> 02:16:21,199
corporation

2805
02:16:19,360 --> 02:16:23,840
over a zoning request that isn't

2806
02:16:21,199 --> 02:16:28,360
compatible with the surrounding area or

2807
02:16:23,840 --> 02:16:28,360
in the city's own comprehensive plan.

2808
02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:34,080
Why are we continuing to spend so many

2809
02:16:30,159 --> 02:16:36,719
resources, city manager, time

2810
02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:38,639
negotiating, revising the applications

2811
02:16:36,719 --> 02:16:41,920
while there's a moratorium in place?

2812
02:16:38,639 --> 02:16:45,040
Across the city, across Oklahoma, across

2813
02:16:41,920 --> 02:16:48,160
the country, communities are raising

2814
02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:49,840
legitimate concerns about locating these

2815
02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:51,760
types of developments in their

2816
02:16:49,840 --> 02:16:54,880
communities.

2817
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:56,639
Shouldn't the voices of your residents

2818
02:16:54,880 --> 02:16:59,639
carry more weight than the wishes of a

2819
02:16:56,639 --> 02:16:59,639
corporation?

2820
02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:03,920
These these two puds will set a

2821
02:17:01,599 --> 02:17:05,679
significant precedent not only for the

2822
02:17:03,920 --> 02:17:06,319
western edge of Oklahoma City.

2823
02:17:05,679 --> 02:17:08,559
» 30 seconds.

2824
02:17:06,319 --> 02:17:10,960
» But for communities throughout

2825
02:17:08,559 --> 02:17:12,559
Canadian County,

2826
02:17:10,960 --> 02:17:14,719
every concession made through the next

2827
02:17:12,559 --> 02:17:16,319
amendments and every revision tailored

2828
02:17:14,719 --> 02:17:19,120
to these applicants become the standard

2829
02:17:16,319 --> 02:17:22,160
of the future. Mr. Pennington

2830
02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:25,359
Luther's Luther borders you Canadian

2831
02:17:22,160 --> 02:17:28,559
County may seem far right now, but this

2832
02:17:25,359 --> 02:17:30,719
same developer is in Luther.

2833
02:17:28,559 --> 02:17:32,960
You vote for this, you the city sets a

2834
02:17:30,719 --> 02:17:35,359
precedent. They're coming to Oklahoma

2835
02:17:32,960 --> 02:17:36,639
City. They're getting out of Luther.

2836
02:17:35,359 --> 02:17:37,920
» I've got a little bit more to say, but

2837
02:17:36,639 --> 02:17:39,280
Mr. Cooper, I appreciate your

2838
02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:41,439
intentionality. Uh,

2839
02:17:39,280 --> 02:17:41,840
» Mr. We are at time, but thank you.

2840
02:17:41,439 --> 02:17:45,719
» Thank you.

2841
02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:45,719
» Next up is Shauna Nelson.

2842
02:17:56,960 --> 02:18:00,479
Hello, my name is Shauna Nelson. I live

2843
02:17:58,719 --> 02:18:03,200
out in Pedmont. Um, I'm here because of

2844
02:18:00,479 --> 02:18:06,160
the data centers. I am retired from the

2845
02:18:03,200 --> 02:18:08,000
United States Navy. We when we got our

2846
02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:10,160
orders to come to Oklahoma City, we were

2847
02:18:08,000 --> 02:18:12,319
kind of shocked being in the Navy. Um,

2848
02:18:10,160 --> 02:18:15,359
my husband retired out of Tinker Air

2849
02:18:12,319 --> 02:18:17,359
Force Base. A lot of Navy out there.

2850
02:18:15,359 --> 02:18:19,439
So when we chose the area, we thought we

2851
02:18:17,359 --> 02:18:21,920
made the right decision after having to

2852
02:18:19,439 --> 02:18:23,920
to move every few years. You go where

2853
02:18:21,920 --> 02:18:27,040
the where the military tells you to go.

2854
02:18:23,920 --> 02:18:29,359
So we chose our area. We just found out

2855
02:18:27,040 --> 02:18:31,599
um about the data center in Pedmont, but

2856
02:18:29,359 --> 02:18:33,359
that's not the only one. They have in in

2857
02:18:31,599 --> 02:18:36,800
Yukon. They're trying to go in Oklahoma

2858
02:18:33,359 --> 02:18:38,399
City, Luther, Cashion. It's not one area

2859
02:18:36,800 --> 02:18:41,280
that's going to be affected. So it's not

2860
02:18:38,399 --> 02:18:43,920
just Pemont I'm speaking of. Um, I

2861
02:18:41,280 --> 02:18:47,120
didn't know anything about it because

2862
02:18:43,920 --> 02:18:48,319
even though the Cloverleaf um,

2863
02:18:47,120 --> 02:18:50,080
representative claims they're

2864
02:18:48,319 --> 02:18:53,519
transparent, they're not. They go under

2865
02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:55,840
multiple LLC's. They do um, Beltline,

2866
02:18:53,519 --> 02:18:58,479
which is the one one of the the two

2867
02:18:55,840 --> 02:19:00,479
trying to go to Pemont is in Luther.

2868
02:18:58,479 --> 02:19:02,719
It's in He's in Yukon and he's in

2869
02:19:00,479 --> 02:19:05,439
Oklahoma City. Um, they are trying they

2870
02:19:02,719 --> 02:19:07,120
do NDAs. There's a reason why they are

2871
02:19:05,439 --> 02:19:08,880
being so sneaky and you're not hearing

2872
02:19:07,120 --> 02:19:11,920
about it in the news because it's not

2873
02:19:08,880 --> 02:19:14,240
necessarily good for the environment. Um

2874
02:19:11,920 --> 02:19:16,559
I think before any projects go forward,

2875
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:19,200
there needs to be more studies done for

2876
02:19:16,559 --> 02:19:20,960
um electricity. As as Amber said, they

2877
02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:23,359
even said they'll keep building until

2878
02:19:20,960 --> 02:19:25,359
electricity grid is at capacity. Right

2879
02:19:23,359 --> 02:19:27,359
now there's already um a high power

2880
02:19:25,359 --> 02:19:30,639
transmission line proposed from Luther

2881
02:19:27,359 --> 02:19:32,240
to north of Pedmont for the development.

2882
02:19:30,639 --> 02:19:34,399
They were told it's not going to be for

2883
02:19:32,240 --> 02:19:35,920
the data centers, but amazingly enough,

2884
02:19:34,399 --> 02:19:37,679
that's what the representative from

2885
02:19:35,920 --> 02:19:41,920
Clover Leaf said. They're cheating that

2886
02:19:37,679 --> 02:19:45,840
area for the Mat Mat substation. Um so I

2887
02:19:41,920 --> 02:19:48,000
think um taking a step back, if one area

2888
02:19:45,840 --> 02:19:49,280
goes, the whole area goes. This isn't

2889
02:19:48,000 --> 02:19:51,439
this doesn't seem to be good for

2890
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:53,920
Oklahoma City um or even for the state

2891
02:19:51,439 --> 02:19:55,680
of Oklahoma. There's already some up in

2892
02:19:53,920 --> 02:19:58,319
the Tulsa area and we're already getting

2893
02:19:55,680 --> 02:20:00,560
push back. So I think I would request

2894
02:19:58,319 --> 02:20:03,359
that um

2895
02:20:00,560 --> 02:20:06,080
you take the time talk to the citizens

2896
02:20:03,359 --> 02:20:07,840
because I don't think um not listening

2897
02:20:06,080 --> 02:20:09,600
to your citizens is the appropriate

2898
02:20:07,840 --> 02:20:12,160
thing because you are elected officials

2899
02:20:09,600 --> 02:20:14,800
and they're trusting your judgment and

2900
02:20:12,160 --> 02:20:17,680
um asking for studies um considering the

2901
02:20:14,800 --> 02:20:19,920
historical significance of where some of

2902
02:20:17,680 --> 02:20:21,280
these projects are going something to to

2903
02:20:19,920 --> 02:20:25,200
take into consideration because once

2904
02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:29,319
it's gone it's gone for good. Thank you.

2905
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:29,319
Thank you, Jana Dunaway.

2906
02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:35,800
Okay, Jarrett Freeman.

2907
02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:47,120
Good morning, council. Jarrett Freeman,

2908
02:20:43,200 --> 02:20:48,479
675 Parkwood Lane. I'm a W1 resident and

2909
02:20:47,120 --> 02:20:50,160
I've spent the majority of this year

2910
02:20:48,479 --> 02:20:52,319
reviewing our contract with the Flock

2911
02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:54,640
Safety and the company behind it.

2912
02:20:52,319 --> 02:20:56,960
Yesterday, a media outlet published a

2913
02:20:54,640 --> 02:20:58,720
leaked internal document titled How to

2914
02:20:56,960 --> 02:21:01,439
Speak to City Councils about public

2915
02:20:58,720 --> 02:21:05,280
safety technology. This is a playbook

2916
02:21:01,439 --> 02:21:07,359
that's given to uh police departments

2917
02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:09,600
and it gives them scripts on how to

2918
02:21:07,359 --> 02:21:12,160
defend flock at council meetings just

2919
02:21:09,600 --> 02:21:14,160
like this one. It scripts opening lines

2920
02:21:12,160 --> 02:21:16,479
for officers. It teaches them to reframe

2921
02:21:14,160 --> 02:21:20,560
finances around quote the cost of

2922
02:21:16,479 --> 02:21:22,960
unsolved crime. But here on page four,

2923
02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:24,880
Flock itself writes, "Don't avoid the

2924
02:21:22,960 --> 02:21:26,479
concept of mass surveillance because

2925
02:21:24,880 --> 02:21:28,880
you're not going to convince opponents

2926
02:21:26,479 --> 02:21:32,000
that it's not." This is Flock's own

2927
02:21:28,880 --> 02:21:34,640
words in their own playbook.

2928
02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:36,960
And Flock conceds what this platform is.

2929
02:21:34,640 --> 02:21:39,680
It's mass surveillance. Under section

2930
02:21:36,960 --> 02:21:42,319
2.4 of the current contract with them,

2931
02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:44,399
Flock retains the unilateral control

2932
02:21:42,319 --> 02:21:46,000
over what these cameras do. Every

2933
02:21:44,399 --> 02:21:48,720
capability that they've developed since

2934
02:21:46,000 --> 02:21:50,880
2023 was pushed to already installed

2935
02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:53,200
devices. And even today, while this

2936
02:21:50,880 --> 02:21:55,040
contract is under review, a new Flock

2937
02:21:53,200 --> 02:21:58,319
camera went up one block away from my

2938
02:21:55,040 --> 02:22:01,040
home with their uh Raven audio detector

2939
02:21:58,319 --> 02:22:03,439
attached. No vote, no expanded

2940
02:22:01,040 --> 02:22:05,439
authorization. Yet, Flock is already

2941
02:22:03,439 --> 02:22:08,560
installing new devices and upgrading

2942
02:22:05,439 --> 02:22:11,840
their capacity while we delay. On July

2943
02:22:08,560 --> 02:22:13,760
10th, the OCPD stated to me in writing

2944
02:22:11,840 --> 02:22:16,319
that no records exist connecting flock

2945
02:22:13,760 --> 02:22:18,160
to case outcomes. And then 3 days later,

2946
02:22:16,319 --> 02:22:20,399
I'm sorry, 4 days later, the police

2947
02:22:18,160 --> 02:22:22,080
union president went on television and

2948
02:22:20,399 --> 02:22:24,800
called these same camera systems

2949
02:22:22,080 --> 02:22:27,120
instrumental to their policy or to their

2950
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:28,720
success. But you can't call a system

2951
02:22:27,120 --> 02:22:31,200
instrumental if you don't track its

2952
02:22:28,720 --> 02:22:34,479
effectiveness. You can't. It can't be

2953
02:22:31,200 --> 02:22:36,479
both. Last week, the OCBD confirmed to

2954
02:22:34,479 --> 02:22:37,600
me in writing that an officer has

2955
02:22:36,479 --> 02:22:40,160
already used the system for

2956
02:22:37,600 --> 02:22:42,720
inappropriate purposes for the course of

2957
02:22:40,160 --> 02:22:44,560
five months. That officer was caught and

2958
02:22:42,720 --> 02:22:46,640
reprimanded because a private citizen

2959
02:22:44,560 --> 02:22:50,080
filed a complaint. Let me say that

2960
02:22:46,640 --> 02:22:54,479
again. OCPD officers have been confirmed

2961
02:22:50,080 --> 02:22:56,160
using this system inappropriate already.

2962
02:22:54,479 --> 02:22:59,280
When I asked for the platform's own

2963
02:22:56,160 --> 02:23:02,720
audit log, they denied that to me. Today

2964
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:05,040
in OKC, the public is the only system to

2965
02:23:02,720 --> 02:23:07,040
audit this platform. Every time this

2966
02:23:05,040 --> 02:23:09,359
contract is defended, the defense is a

2967
02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:11,359
single anecdote. A recovered car, maybe

2968
02:23:09,359 --> 02:23:13,359
a silver alert cleared, but it's never

2969
02:23:11,359 --> 02:23:14,399
data. It's never a platform.

2970
02:23:13,359 --> 02:23:17,040
» 30 seconds.

2971
02:23:14,399 --> 02:23:19,439
» Thank you. The statistics don't support

2972
02:23:17,040 --> 02:23:21,280
the anecdote. LAPD's own inspector

2973
02:23:19,439 --> 02:23:24,479
general audit found the system is wrong

2974
02:23:21,280 --> 02:23:26,560
one in three times. Every wrong hit is a

2975
02:23:24,479 --> 02:23:29,040
potential armed stop of an innocent

2976
02:23:26,560 --> 02:23:31,120
person. In February, a Flock camera in

2977
02:23:29,040 --> 02:23:32,720
Arkansas misread a plate and officers

2978
02:23:31,120 --> 02:23:35,040
held the couple in that vehicle at

2979
02:23:32,720 --> 02:23:37,600
gunpoint with their six-month-old child

2980
02:23:35,040 --> 02:23:40,319
in the car seat. This is not a safety

2981
02:23:37,600 --> 02:23:42,240
tool. This is a safety risk. Do not

2982
02:23:40,319 --> 02:23:44,000
renew this contract. Get these cameras

2983
02:23:42,240 --> 02:23:45,439
off of our streets and don't sign with

2984
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:49,040
another vendor. Thank you.

2985
02:23:45,439 --> 02:23:50,560
» Excuse me. May I see that? And can I I

2986
02:23:49,040 --> 02:23:52,399
just want to go make a copy for myself

2987
02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:53,680
and my colleagues. I've just heard about

2988
02:23:52,399 --> 02:23:55,040
that last night. Thank you.

2989
02:23:53,680 --> 02:23:58,520
» Yes, sir.

2990
02:23:55,040 --> 02:23:58,520
Carly Heightland.

2991
02:24:12,319 --> 02:24:16,880
Hi, my name is Kari Highland. I'm a

2992
02:24:14,720 --> 02:24:19,840
resident of Ward 2 and I'm here to

2993
02:24:16,880 --> 02:24:21,600
present strong and widespread public

2994
02:24:19,840 --> 02:24:26,640
opposition to renewing the flock

2995
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:29,600
contracts. Here you see 1,816

2996
02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:31,359
signatures by your constituents. and

2997
02:24:29,600 --> 02:24:33,520
they have agreed to demand that the

2998
02:24:31,359 --> 02:24:35,760
Oklahoma City Council permanently

2999
02:24:33,520 --> 02:24:38,080
terminates its contract with Flock at

3000
02:24:35,760 --> 02:24:40,880
the earliest possible opportunity to do

3001
02:24:38,080 --> 02:24:43,840
so. The earliest possible opportunity to

3002
02:24:40,880 --> 02:24:46,319
do so has already passed and yet we are

3003
02:24:43,840 --> 02:24:48,720
still urging you to terminate OKC's

3004
02:24:46,319 --> 02:24:51,359
contract with Flock. Our community is

3005
02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:53,439
engaged. Every time you delay this vote,

3006
02:24:51,359 --> 02:24:57,120
our numbers for this petition and for

3007
02:24:53,439 --> 02:24:59,760
support against Flock grows. Continually

3008
02:24:57,120 --> 02:25:01,760
delaying this vote allows Flock to

3009
02:24:59,760 --> 02:25:04,080
continue installing new cameras,

3010
02:25:01,760 --> 02:25:07,200
surveilling us, and collecting our data

3011
02:25:04,080 --> 02:25:09,520
without proper storage. In effect, each

3012
02:25:07,200 --> 02:25:12,080
time this vote is delayed, the council

3013
02:25:09,520 --> 02:25:14,800
is casting their vote to continue the

3014
02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:17,040
contract for two weeks or more without

3015
02:25:14,800 --> 02:25:20,080
hearing public comment and listening to

3016
02:25:17,040 --> 02:25:22,080
citizen concerns. I am sure you have all

3017
02:25:20,080 --> 02:25:25,120
received direct outreach from your

3018
02:25:22,080 --> 02:25:27,280
constituents. And the over 1,800 people

3019
02:25:25,120 --> 02:25:29,359
who have signed this petition, plus many

3020
02:25:27,280 --> 02:25:32,640
others I have spoken with, have three

3021
02:25:29,359 --> 02:25:34,560
key demands. Number one, have the OKC

3022
02:25:32,640 --> 02:25:37,120
city council not renew the flock

3023
02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:39,840
contract. Number two, remove our current

3024
02:25:37,120 --> 02:25:43,280
flock cameras. And number three, do not

3025
02:25:39,840 --> 02:25:45,200
partner with another AP alpr vendor. I

3026
02:25:43,280 --> 02:25:47,760
hope you will take the time to read

3027
02:25:45,200 --> 02:25:49,840
these petitions, to read the names of

3028
02:25:47,760 --> 02:25:52,319
your constituents, the people who these

3029
02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:54,399
cameras are affecting. I have personally

3030
02:25:52,319 --> 02:25:56,640
spoken with hundreds of Oklahomaans

3031
02:25:54,399 --> 02:25:58,479
about flock surveillance surveillance,

3032
02:25:56,640 --> 02:26:01,359
and I tell you that it is rare to find

3033
02:25:58,479 --> 02:26:04,080
an issue that Oklahomaans are so united

3034
02:26:01,359 --> 02:26:06,720
on. Your constituents have spoken loud

3035
02:26:04,080 --> 02:26:09,120
and clear. We want flock out of our

3036
02:26:06,720 --> 02:26:11,280
city. And as residents of Oklahoma City

3037
02:26:09,120 --> 02:26:13,920
and the people being surveiled by flock

3038
02:26:11,280 --> 02:26:16,080
cameras, we urge you to stand with us,

3039
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:18,240
your constituents, put this issue to a

3040
02:26:16,080 --> 02:26:20,560
vote, and vote not to renew the contract

3041
02:26:18,240 --> 02:26:22,960
with Flock Safety. You will continue

3042
02:26:20,560 --> 02:26:25,760
hearing from us until this happens.

3043
02:26:22,960 --> 02:26:29,880
Thank you.

3044
02:26:25,760 --> 02:26:29,880
» Thank you, CJ Carpenter.

3045
02:26:40,319 --> 02:26:44,080
Good morning. Thank the council for

3046
02:26:41,920 --> 02:26:46,399
their time. I am your neighbor in

3047
02:26:44,080 --> 02:26:49,040
Canadian County and the item you're

3048
02:26:46,399 --> 02:26:51,200
considering 9C. Thank you for postponing

3049
02:26:49,040 --> 02:26:52,800
it. My wife and I are both school

3050
02:26:51,200 --> 02:26:55,359
teachers, so we will be unavailable

3051
02:26:52,800 --> 02:26:58,560
August 18th. So, I must make our wishes

3052
02:26:55,359 --> 02:27:00,720
known today. What is a city? A city is a

3053
02:26:58,560 --> 02:27:03,359
collection of neighbors who live

3054
02:27:00,720 --> 02:27:05,359
together for mutual benefit, protection,

3055
02:27:03,359 --> 02:27:07,280
and support.

3056
02:27:05,359 --> 02:27:09,439
And so, uh, we are your neighbors. Thank

3057
02:27:07,280 --> 02:27:11,439
you. We buy your water. Thank you so

3058
02:27:09,439 --> 02:27:14,800
much for being neighbors to us in

3059
02:27:11,439 --> 02:27:16,080
Canadian County. I live in one of the

3060
02:27:14,800 --> 02:27:19,280
three neighborhoods that would be

3061
02:27:16,080 --> 02:27:20,640
considered ground zero for the noise,

3062
02:27:19,280 --> 02:27:23,040
the pollution, and the other things

3063
02:27:20,640 --> 02:27:25,359
we're considering with Cloverleaf.

3064
02:27:23,040 --> 02:27:27,359
Um, you're well aware, you're well

3065
02:27:25,359 --> 02:27:29,280
verssed in the issues. I can only speak

3066
02:27:27,359 --> 02:27:32,080
from a father's heart. My wife and I are

3067
02:27:29,280 --> 02:27:34,880
raising five children. Um I have a

3068
02:27:32,080 --> 02:27:36,240
condition uh known as tenitus. It's very

3069
02:27:34,880 --> 02:27:38,160
common in tenitis, right, with the

3070
02:27:36,240 --> 02:27:40,399
ringing in the ears. Mine comes with

3071
02:27:38,160 --> 02:27:43,439
what's called recruitment

3072
02:27:40,399 --> 02:27:47,200
and it can be crippling. Please do not

3073
02:27:43,439 --> 02:27:50,160
fill our home and neighborhood with the

3074
02:27:47,200 --> 02:27:52,960
the decibel level of a vacuum cleaner

3075
02:27:50,160 --> 02:27:55,120
constantly running. We will have to sell

3076
02:27:52,960 --> 02:27:57,600
our house.

3077
02:27:55,120 --> 02:27:59,040
My youngest son is nine and a half and

3078
02:27:57,600 --> 02:28:01,040
he's already asking for Christmas

3079
02:27:59,040 --> 02:28:03,680
presents. You know how they do. He wants

3080
02:28:01,040 --> 02:28:06,720
a telescope. With our current level of

3081
02:28:03,680 --> 02:28:08,800
of light pollution, we can see about 15

3082
02:28:06,720 --> 02:28:10,479
stars and planets.

3083
02:28:08,800 --> 02:28:13,280
He wants to tell us, he's very serious

3084
02:28:10,479 --> 02:28:15,120
about that. Please do not fill us with

3085
02:28:13,280 --> 02:28:17,120
additional light pollution. We we would

3086
02:28:15,120 --> 02:28:19,280
be less than a mile, scarcely a mile

3087
02:28:17,120 --> 02:28:22,080
from the proposed site for your for your

3088
02:28:19,280 --> 02:28:26,319
PUD.

3089
02:28:22,080 --> 02:28:28,319
Lastly, my middle son um was our asthma

3090
02:28:26,319 --> 02:28:31,439
patient and we spent many nights in

3091
02:28:28,319 --> 02:28:33,040
hospitals and uh paying very high doctor

3092
02:28:31,439 --> 02:28:35,439
bills getting him through that that

3093
02:28:33,040 --> 02:28:38,479
rough period. Well, by the grace of God,

3094
02:28:35,439 --> 02:28:40,479
he is now 15 and he's beaten a lot of

3095
02:28:38,479 --> 02:28:42,240
his childhood asthma and he's actually

3096
02:28:40,479 --> 02:28:43,920
come out for cross country. He's now

3097
02:28:42,240 --> 02:28:45,920
running two and a half miles, three

3098
02:28:43,920 --> 02:28:47,600
miles every morning. Very proud of that

3099
02:28:45,920 --> 02:28:51,040
young man.

3100
02:28:47,600 --> 02:28:53,439
Please do not fill our backyard air with

3101
02:28:51,040 --> 02:28:55,040
diesel exhaust and phthalates that are

3102
02:28:53,439 --> 02:28:57,200
going to his breathing and set

3103
02:28:55,040 --> 02:28:59,840
us back.

3104
02:28:57,200 --> 02:29:01,520
You're our neighbors, Oklahoma City.

3105
02:28:59,840 --> 02:29:04,479
We've tried to be good neighbors. We're

3106
02:29:01,520 --> 02:29:06,640
we're nice people in Canadian County. We

3107
02:29:04,479 --> 02:29:08,160
appreciate you guys so much, but you're

3108
02:29:06,640 --> 02:29:11,680
the biggest city in the state. You're

3109
02:29:08,160 --> 02:29:12,640
the leaders of this state and people are

3110
02:29:11,680 --> 02:29:14,399
looking to you for president.

3111
02:29:12,640 --> 02:29:15,840
» 30 seconds, please.

3112
02:29:14,399 --> 02:29:17,040
» That's all I have for you. Thank you for

3113
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:20,560
your time.

3114
02:29:17,040 --> 02:29:22,640
Thank you. Steve Hunt.

3115
02:29:20,560 --> 02:29:26,680
» Sorry, what?

3116
02:29:22,640 --> 02:29:26,680
» Oh, next name. Steve Hunt.

3117
02:29:31,280 --> 02:29:37,280
» Steve Hunt 6300. Um, like to request the

3118
02:29:34,880 --> 02:29:40,319
U person doing the production to get a

3119
02:29:37,280 --> 02:29:42,160
shot of Dave staring down at his ADL

3120
02:29:40,319 --> 02:29:45,520
Defender of Democracy Award while I

3121
02:29:42,160 --> 02:29:47,439
speak. That would be pretty good.

3122
02:29:45,520 --> 02:29:51,600
Um, we have a couple different things

3123
02:29:47,439 --> 02:29:53,840
that I want to talk about. Um, about how

3124
02:29:51,600 --> 02:29:56,160
nobody wants to be surveiled. Nobody

3125
02:29:53,840 --> 02:29:59,680
wants to be surveiled. And here's a

3126
02:29:56,160 --> 02:30:02,240
little story about that. Um, couple

3127
02:29:59,680 --> 02:30:05,280
months ago, I had some some people know

3128
02:30:02,240 --> 02:30:07,439
that I'm a big cigar afficionado. And uh

3129
02:30:05,280 --> 02:30:12,160
some friends of mine at the uh burn

3130
02:30:07,439 --> 02:30:14,240
lounge contacted me saying that Dave and

3131
02:30:12,160 --> 02:30:16,399
some of his friends went in there and

3132
02:30:14,240 --> 02:30:19,439
that there was someone

3133
02:30:16,399 --> 02:30:24,160
someone with them that asked asked them

3134
02:30:19,439 --> 02:30:28,399
to turn the uh security cameras off and

3135
02:30:24,160 --> 02:30:30,720
I'm like what it's like yep

3136
02:30:28,399 --> 02:30:34,000
and I don't know who who was with him.

3137
02:30:30,720 --> 02:30:35,680
Do you know who was it, Dave?

3138
02:30:34,000 --> 02:30:37,359
I think maybe it was Silver Lake Capital

3139
02:30:35,680 --> 02:30:38,960
or someone because they were all in

3140
02:30:37,359 --> 02:30:39,920
suits and there was someone that may

3141
02:30:38,960 --> 02:30:41,280
have been a security guy or something,

3142
02:30:39,920 --> 02:30:42,720
but they they went up there and say,

3143
02:30:41,280 --> 02:30:44,000
"Can you please turn the security

3144
02:30:42,720 --> 02:30:45,600
cameras off?" And of course, they're

3145
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:47,200
like, "Our insurance won't let us do

3146
02:30:45,600 --> 02:30:49,040
that." But that's just a little story

3147
02:30:47,200 --> 02:30:52,040
about how people don't like to be

3148
02:30:49,040 --> 02:30:52,040
surveiled.

3149
02:30:53,514 --> 02:30:55,533
» [sighs]

3150
02:30:56,399 --> 02:31:03,280
» So, a little update on uh Thunder Radio

3151
02:31:00,479 --> 02:31:06,319
and Television. Um I've been speaking

3152
02:31:03,280 --> 02:31:09,439
about how the uh equity private equity

3153
02:31:06,319 --> 02:31:12,880
adjacent company Main Street Sports who

3154
02:31:09,439 --> 02:31:16,240
did the uh Thunder TV is insolvent, no

3155
02:31:12,880 --> 02:31:18,960
longer exists. and Cumulus, who does the

3156
02:31:16,240 --> 02:31:23,120
radio, just filed their second uh

3157
02:31:18,960 --> 02:31:24,880
chapter 11, and they're waiting the uh

3158
02:31:23,120 --> 02:31:26,960
administration,

3159
02:31:24,880 --> 02:31:28,479
the FCC to give their licenses over to

3160
02:31:26,960 --> 02:31:31,680
their creditors. And that's probably not

3161
02:31:28,479 --> 02:31:34,479
going to happen until the season starts.

3162
02:31:31,680 --> 02:31:36,720
And it's just crazy that there's like no

3163
02:31:34,479 --> 02:31:38,720
discussion whatsoever about this because

3164
02:31:36,720 --> 02:31:41,040
the people have given billions of

3165
02:31:38,720 --> 02:31:43,600
dollars and they've been having to pay

3166
02:31:41,040 --> 02:31:46,800
to watch the Thunder. And that's because

3167
02:31:43,600 --> 02:31:49,760
they were trying to get the citizens to

3168
02:31:46,800 --> 02:31:51,520
help Main Street Sports

3169
02:31:49,760 --> 02:31:52,640
service their debt. And that's that's

3170
02:31:51,520 --> 02:31:54,720
the problem. That's why I always talk

3171
02:31:52,640 --> 02:31:56,720
about private equity because when we

3172
02:31:54,720 --> 02:31:58,960
hand contracts to them,

3173
02:31:56,720 --> 02:32:02,000
» It's all like super highly leveraged

3174
02:31:58,960 --> 02:32:04,399
debt and they rarely pay off anything

3175
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:07,280
other than the interest. That's why shut

3176
02:32:04,399 --> 02:32:09,439
down because their IBIDA was 13 million

3177
02:32:07,280 --> 02:32:13,600
less than

3178
02:32:09,439 --> 02:32:15,600
» Uh their debt interest. And um there's a

3179
02:32:13,600 --> 02:32:17,840
lot to talk about on that stuff and I

3180
02:32:15,600 --> 02:32:19,840
can't do it in 17 seconds. So I want to

3181
02:32:17,840 --> 02:32:22,399
recommend a book to the people out in

3182
02:32:19,840 --> 02:32:25,359
channel 20 land watching on YouTube.

3183
02:32:22,399 --> 02:32:26,640
Lords of Easy Money. This is one of the

3184
02:32:25,359 --> 02:32:31,359
best books I've ever read and it

3185
02:32:26,640 --> 02:32:33,920
explains how our recovery money and our

3186
02:32:31,359 --> 02:32:35,920
Zer money from the housing collapse all

3187
02:32:33,920 --> 02:32:38,960
went to these equity firms to buy these

3188
02:32:35,920 --> 02:32:41,200
businesses that are now taking over the

3189
02:32:38,960 --> 02:32:41,760
functionality of our municipality. So,

3190
02:32:41,200 --> 02:32:45,319
thank you

3191
02:32:41,760 --> 02:32:45,319
» Gregory Brown.

3192
02:32:46,640 --> 02:32:50,600
» Okay, Joseph Ross.

3193
02:32:58,319 --> 02:33:01,600
» I want to thank I want to thank the

3194
02:32:59,760 --> 02:33:03,040
committee who's been uh paying attention

3195
02:33:01,600 --> 02:33:05,200
and kind of keeping their heads up and

3196
02:33:03,040 --> 02:33:07,040
seeing what's going on with the people

3197
02:33:05,200 --> 02:33:09,200
that's talking. You know, uh I think we

3198
02:33:07,040 --> 02:33:10,800
got some really important concerns. Uh,

3199
02:33:09,200 --> 02:33:13,520
I came to talk to y'all about the flock

3200
02:33:10,800 --> 02:33:17,359
situation. Um, just recently I was

3201
02:33:13,520 --> 02:33:19,359
pulled over by a police officer for uh

3202
02:33:17,359 --> 02:33:21,280
something illegal. I'm a first amendment

3203
02:33:19,359 --> 02:33:23,280
auditor and I go around recording police

3204
02:33:21,280 --> 02:33:27,439
officers uh making sure to not violate

3205
02:33:23,280 --> 02:33:30,319
any of our rights. And um as I'm leaving

3206
02:33:27,439 --> 02:33:32,560
uh a police officer stopped uh a police

3207
02:33:30,319 --> 02:33:35,600
officer actually stopped me and he told

3208
02:33:32,560 --> 02:33:37,920
me uh you know hey you know I'm going to

3209
02:33:35,600 --> 02:33:41,439
write you a ticket and you know why were

3210
02:33:37,920 --> 02:33:44,960
you recording and all this other crap

3211
02:33:41,439 --> 02:33:47,520
and as I was leaving he he tells me he

3212
02:33:44,960 --> 02:33:49,840
says hey are you affiliated with any

3213
02:33:47,520 --> 02:33:51,600
motorcycle gang members because I'm on a

3214
02:33:49,840 --> 02:33:54,720
motorcycle now. I didn't have on any

3215
02:33:51,600 --> 02:33:57,600
motorcycle uh insignia. I didn't have on

3216
02:33:54,720 --> 02:33:59,120
any patches or cuts or vests, but at the

3217
02:33:57,600 --> 02:34:00,720
end of the conversation when I asked him

3218
02:33:59,120 --> 02:34:03,920
I free to go, he told me he was going to

3219
02:34:00,720 --> 02:34:07,920
put me in the flock system as a outlaw

3220
02:34:03,920 --> 02:34:09,840
motorcycle gang member. Now, um you

3221
02:34:07,920 --> 02:34:12,720
know, in no shape, form or fashion am I

3222
02:34:09,840 --> 02:34:16,080
a gang member. I'm not an outlaw. I'm

3223
02:34:12,720 --> 02:34:19,680
not a oneenter. But for him to use the

3224
02:34:16,080 --> 02:34:22,960
flock system to put me in the system as

3225
02:34:19,680 --> 02:34:25,920
a criminal as affiliated with criminals

3226
02:34:22,960 --> 02:34:28,560
or known outlaws.

3227
02:34:25,920 --> 02:34:31,600
That's that's not that's not cool. I I

3228
02:34:28,560 --> 02:34:35,439
don't I don't think that this system was

3229
02:34:31,600 --> 02:34:37,359
used to uh do things like this. Uh,

3230
02:34:35,439 --> 02:34:40,399
another thing that I heard, uh, when I

3231
02:34:37,359 --> 02:34:43,439
got pulled over for the same illegal tag

3232
02:34:40,399 --> 02:34:45,040
display a month before, uh, but that

3233
02:34:43,439 --> 02:34:46,720
officer, he was joking, you know, he

3234
02:34:45,040 --> 02:34:49,120
made a joke about it. He was like, "Hey,

3235
02:34:46,720 --> 02:34:50,720
I'm going to put you in the system. So,

3236
02:34:49,120 --> 02:34:52,399
uh, you know, in case you commit any

3237
02:34:50,720 --> 02:34:53,840
crimes, you know, we know where you work

3238
02:34:52,399 --> 02:34:57,280
at. We're just going to come pick you up

3239
02:34:53,840 --> 02:34:59,439
from work." It's [snorts] it's it's sad

3240
02:34:57,280 --> 02:35:01,600
that you guys can use these cameras and

3241
02:34:59,439 --> 02:35:03,600
stuff to target citizens in the

3242
02:35:01,600 --> 02:35:05,359
community. But one thing that these

3243
02:35:03,600 --> 02:35:07,040
flock cameras don't do, I want y'all to

3244
02:35:05,359 --> 02:35:08,640
think about, they're not targeting you

3245
02:35:07,040 --> 02:35:10,960
guys. They're not targeting government

3246
02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:13,760
officials or police officers who's

3247
02:35:10,960 --> 02:35:15,760
running red lights, who's speeding, uh

3248
02:35:13,760 --> 02:35:18,479
who's committing crimes. Y'all flock

3249
02:35:15,760 --> 02:35:20,800
cameras aren't aren't aren't aren't used

3250
02:35:18,479 --> 02:35:23,280
for

3251
02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:25,200
anyone but a targeted community that

3252
02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:28,240
y'all feel like it's should be targeted

3253
02:35:25,200 --> 02:35:29,040
towards. And I know in 2 seconds I have

3254
02:35:28,240 --> 02:35:30,240
30 seconds.

3255
02:35:29,040 --> 02:35:33,600
» Seconds.

3256
02:35:30,240 --> 02:35:35,680
» Thank you so much. If you notice also as

3257
02:35:33,600 --> 02:35:37,120
we're up here on this stand talking,

3258
02:35:35,680 --> 02:35:39,359
there's a couple of people, well,

3259
02:35:37,120 --> 02:35:40,640
there's a few people that are engaged

3260
02:35:39,359 --> 02:35:42,800
and paying attention to our

3261
02:35:40,640 --> 02:35:45,120
conversation, but there's so many people

3262
02:35:42,800 --> 02:35:46,479
that's not. And I want to bring

3263
02:35:45,120 --> 02:35:49,680
something else to your attention, too.

3264
02:35:46,479 --> 02:35:52,640
That's why terms there shouldn't be any

3265
02:35:49,680 --> 02:35:55,200
uh any rest there should be restrictions

3266
02:35:52,640 --> 02:35:56,720
on how long you can be in office because

3267
02:35:55,200 --> 02:35:58,160
I think some people get comfortable in

3268
02:35:56,720 --> 02:36:00,240
their position and they just don't care

3269
02:35:58,160 --> 02:36:03,720
anymore. Thank you,

3270
02:36:00,240 --> 02:36:03,720
» Stephanie Bertine.

3271
02:36:23,439 --> 02:36:29,760
Good morning. Stephanie Berdine, 515

3272
02:36:26,800 --> 02:36:31,760
Maple, Yukon, Oklahoma. For the people

3273
02:36:29,760 --> 02:36:35,520
who weren't here at the last meeting,

3274
02:36:31,760 --> 02:36:36,880
I'll play the audio again of uh from the

3275
02:36:35,520 --> 02:36:39,680
University of Texas School of

3276
02:36:36,880 --> 02:36:44,319
Engineering recorded in Roundrock, Texas

3277
02:36:39,680 --> 02:36:47,319
of Hypers Scale Data Centers, uh 1500 ft

3278
02:36:44,319 --> 02:36:47,319
away.

3279
02:36:51,520 --> 02:36:59,040
If you pass 21105 and 21104,

3280
02:36:56,640 --> 02:37:01,520
uh, you're going to set a precedence for

3281
02:36:59,040 --> 02:37:03,680
the most unpopular thing in the United

3282
02:37:01,520 --> 02:37:07,120
States of America right now, hypers

3283
02:37:03,680 --> 02:37:12,800
scale data centers. Um, the one that

3284
02:37:07,120 --> 02:37:18,960
this put applies to is 300 ft, a mere

3285
02:37:12,800 --> 02:37:20,880
300 ft away from houses in Yukon.

3286
02:37:18,960 --> 02:37:22,880
Now, this is not just going to affect

3287
02:37:20,880 --> 02:37:26,880
Yukon. It's going to affect the whole

3288
02:37:22,880 --> 02:37:29,520
metro if you pass this because

3289
02:37:26,880 --> 02:37:33,200
not just the noise, but the Southwest

3290
02:37:29,520 --> 02:37:37,920
Power Grid um is currently operating

3291
02:37:33,200 --> 02:37:40,160
under emergency order 202-26-31

3292
02:37:37,920 --> 02:37:44,319
section 202

3293
02:37:40,160 --> 02:37:48,080
C of the federal power um

3294
02:37:44,319 --> 02:37:50,640
of the Fowler Pedro Act. Um the next

3295
02:37:48,080 --> 02:37:54,880
step is level three. That's an emergency

3296
02:37:50,640 --> 02:37:57,280
pre to prevent rolling blackouts. Um if

3297
02:37:54,880 --> 02:37:59,280
we don't have any power, if we're in

3298
02:37:57,280 --> 02:38:02,160
that kind of shape, how are we going to

3299
02:37:59,280 --> 02:38:04,160
support uh data centers in the metro

3300
02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:07,760
area? Who's going to be first in line

3301
02:38:04,160 --> 02:38:09,439
for power when we get to level three? Is

3302
02:38:07,760 --> 02:38:11,680
it going to be the hospitals? Is it

3303
02:38:09,439 --> 02:38:14,960
going to be homes? Is it going to be the

3304
02:38:11,680 --> 02:38:17,840
three largest three largest industries

3305
02:38:14,960 --> 02:38:20,640
in Oklahoma City that uh help our

3306
02:38:17,840 --> 02:38:23,920
country and security FAA,

3307
02:38:20,640 --> 02:38:27,600
the National Weather Service, Tinker, or

3308
02:38:23,920 --> 02:38:30,319
do the data centers win? And why in the

3309
02:38:27,600 --> 02:38:33,120
world are we going to let speculators

3310
02:38:30,319 --> 02:38:36,319
trying to trade a packaged idea of

3311
02:38:33,120 --> 02:38:39,439
economic relief to municipalities

3312
02:38:36,319 --> 02:38:42,319
uh to really come before the citizens of

3313
02:38:39,439 --> 02:38:43,840
the metro and their right to peaceful

3314
02:38:42,319 --> 02:38:45,760
existence?

3315
02:38:43,840 --> 02:38:48,240
And then I'd like to know what's the

3316
02:38:45,760 --> 02:38:51,280
legacy you all want to leave. Mayor

3317
02:38:48,240 --> 02:38:52,240
Holt, you're uh doing some fantastic

3318
02:38:51,280 --> 02:38:55,280
things.

3319
02:38:52,240 --> 02:38:57,280
» 30 seconds remaining. But what what do

3320
02:38:55,280 --> 02:38:59,520
you want your legacy to be? Do you want

3321
02:38:57,280 --> 02:39:02,160
it to be the Olympics? Do you want it to

3322
02:38:59,520 --> 02:39:05,520
be the thunder, the arts? That Oklahoma

3323
02:39:02,160 --> 02:39:08,399
City is a destination? Because if PUD

3324
02:39:05,520 --> 02:39:11,280
21105 and 21 pass, your legacy is going

3325
02:39:08,399 --> 02:39:13,760
to be data centers. And I really wonder

3326
02:39:11,280 --> 02:39:15,600
what a lady we have in common would be

3327
02:39:13,760 --> 02:39:17,439
thinking right now of that boy on the

3328
02:39:15,600 --> 02:39:20,479
culdeac. I really wonder what Judy

3329
02:39:17,439 --> 02:39:22,319
Lindsay would think of these data

3330
02:39:20,479 --> 02:39:24,319
centers because I have a feeling she

3331
02:39:22,319 --> 02:39:25,520
wouldn't be for them. Thank you for your

3332
02:39:24,319 --> 02:39:29,080
time.

3333
02:39:25,520 --> 02:39:29,080
» Kristen Schubel,

3334
02:39:29,680 --> 02:39:33,160
» Kristen Schubel.

3335
02:39:43,120 --> 02:39:49,200
Hello. Uh Kristen Shouil from War 2.

3336
02:39:46,319 --> 02:39:50,800
Again, I spoke here recently on Flock. I

3337
02:39:49,200 --> 02:39:52,960
uh ran out of time, so I'm back to

3338
02:39:50,800 --> 02:39:56,479
running a bit more.

3339
02:39:52,960 --> 02:39:58,800
Um there's a tendency in some circles to

3340
02:39:56,479 --> 02:40:01,359
dis to dismiss worries over data

3341
02:39:58,800 --> 02:40:04,560
centers, AI, and flock as a bunch of

3342
02:40:01,359 --> 02:40:07,760
baloo from ignorant leites. And I'd like

3343
02:40:04,560 --> 02:40:10,000
to push back on that perception. It used

3344
02:40:07,760 --> 02:40:12,560
to be that when big tech sold the public

3345
02:40:10,000 --> 02:40:15,760
on new tech, it led with obvious

3346
02:40:12,560 --> 02:40:17,680
benefits. Google gave us super fast,

3347
02:40:15,760 --> 02:40:20,640
far-reaching search engine that could

3348
02:40:17,680 --> 02:40:23,600
organize the web for our perusal. And it

3349
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:26,080
kept one uping itself with Gmail, Google

3350
02:40:23,600 --> 02:40:27,680
Earth, Google Fiber, and more. Facebook

3351
02:40:26,080 --> 02:40:29,359
promised to keep us connected to our

3352
02:40:27,680 --> 02:40:32,240
social circles and connect us to new

3353
02:40:29,359 --> 02:40:34,800
people. Apple gave us these tiny little

3354
02:40:32,240 --> 02:40:37,359
pocket computers with smooth home

3355
02:40:34,800 --> 02:40:38,880
buttons that felt great to the touch.

3356
02:40:37,359 --> 02:40:41,920
Originally, these were products where

3357
02:40:38,880 --> 02:40:44,080
the customer experience was top of mind.

3358
02:40:41,920 --> 02:40:46,399
These once great features have almost

3359
02:40:44,080 --> 02:40:48,800
universally declined in quality and

3360
02:40:46,399 --> 02:40:50,960
functionality. Now, you're lucky if you

3361
02:40:48,800 --> 02:40:54,080
can find via search what you were able

3362
02:40:50,960 --> 02:40:56,240
to find 10 or even 20 years ago. Those

3363
02:40:54,080 --> 02:40:57,760
lovely home buttons were removed many

3364
02:40:56,240 --> 02:40:59,760
years ago in favor of more efficient

3365
02:40:57,760 --> 02:41:02,080
production. While Apple's prices

3366
02:40:59,760 --> 02:41:03,920
continued to rise, and Facebook I won't

3367
02:41:02,080 --> 02:41:05,760
even comment on. [laughter]

3368
02:41:03,920 --> 02:41:07,600
Now big tech doesn't even bother making

3369
02:41:05,760 --> 02:41:09,760
helpful tools for the people. They have

3370
02:41:07,600 --> 02:41:11,760
taken the trust they earned and spent it

3371
02:41:09,760 --> 02:41:13,600
on contracts with big businesses and

3372
02:41:11,760 --> 02:41:15,600
governments. There is a trend of

3373
02:41:13,600 --> 02:41:17,280
technologies being pushed is benefiting

3374
02:41:15,600 --> 02:41:19,120
our safety and wellness while actually

3375
02:41:17,280 --> 02:41:22,160
limiting our privacy and decreasing

3376
02:41:19,120 --> 02:41:24,399
feelings of safety. For many of us, this

3377
02:41:22,160 --> 02:41:26,640
entire information age has felt like a

3378
02:41:24,399 --> 02:41:29,280
bait and switch as we enter the age of,

3379
02:41:26,640 --> 02:41:31,600
pardon my French, inshitification.

3380
02:41:29,280 --> 02:41:33,040
This is not baseless paranoia you're

3381
02:41:31,600 --> 02:41:35,920
seeing. This is people who are fed up

3382
02:41:33,040 --> 02:41:38,160
with real abuses by big tech and their

3383
02:41:35,920 --> 02:41:40,319
expanding tentacles which seem to make

3384
02:41:38,160 --> 02:41:42,960
everything they touch worse. It has to

3385
02:41:40,319 --> 02:41:44,560
do with lacks and sometimes undemocratic

3386
02:41:42,960 --> 02:41:46,800
municipalities.

3387
02:41:44,560 --> 02:41:49,520
I'd like to suggest that supporters of

3388
02:41:46,800 --> 02:41:50,800
these technologies sleep comfortably

3389
02:41:49,520 --> 02:41:52,880
because they believe they'll never be

3390
02:41:50,800 --> 02:41:55,120
the target of these systems. They don't

3391
02:41:52,880 --> 02:41:56,800
have any weird beliefs. They don't have

3392
02:41:55,120 --> 02:41:58,960
any punk rock magazines from high

3393
02:41:56,800 --> 02:42:00,640
school. They perceive themselves as

3394
02:41:58,960 --> 02:42:02,399
upright members of our community who can

3395
02:42:00,640 --> 02:42:05,120
only benefit from the protections

3396
02:42:02,399 --> 02:42:06,720
brought by these omnipresent cameras. I

3397
02:42:05,120 --> 02:42:09,920
don't have that trust. And not because

3398
02:42:06,720 --> 02:42:11,680
I'm a bad guy or a criminal, but because

3399
02:42:09,920 --> 02:42:14,560
the law can go wrong even in the hands

3400
02:42:11,680 --> 02:42:16,640
of good actors. And in the last year,

3401
02:42:14,560 --> 02:42:19,760
not necessarily here, citizens have been

3402
02:42:16,640 --> 02:42:22,399
detained, deported, arrested, and jailed

3403
02:42:19,760 --> 02:42:24,800
for their beliefs. 30 seconds remaining.

3404
02:42:22,399 --> 02:42:26,720
» Shoot. Our Secretary of State, Marco

3405
02:42:24,800 --> 02:42:29,600
Rubio, last month released a list of

3406
02:42:26,720 --> 02:42:32,479
dangerous leftist terrorists, including

3407
02:42:29,600 --> 02:42:34,880
the co-owner of Ben & Jerry's.

3408
02:42:32,479 --> 02:42:36,640
Why on earth would I trust the state or

3409
02:42:34,880 --> 02:42:38,800
a connected third party like Flock with

3410
02:42:36,640 --> 02:42:41,040
more power, to surveil me and everyone

3411
02:42:38,800 --> 02:42:43,200
else? We seem to be entering another Red

3412
02:42:41,040 --> 02:42:46,319
Scare. And I do worry this tech will be

3413
02:42:43,200 --> 02:42:48,319
used by actors beyond this city to to

3414
02:42:46,319 --> 02:42:51,120
take advantage of our data and for the

3415
02:42:48,319 --> 02:42:53,840
purpose of ideological suppression.

3416
02:42:51,120 --> 02:42:56,319
Uh oh boy. Uh since I'm running out of

3417
02:42:53,840 --> 02:42:58,080
time, um I hope for better from this

3418
02:42:56,319 --> 02:43:00,720
council when it comes to scrutinizing

3419
02:42:58,080 --> 02:43:03,840
flock and other big tech vendors that

3420
02:43:00,720 --> 02:43:05,200
come through these parts. Um I want to

3421
02:43:03,840 --> 02:43:06,319
give a shout out to Jared Freeman

3422
02:43:05,200 --> 02:43:08,080
because I think we're

3423
02:43:06,319 --> 02:43:11,600
» We're at time. Good work. Okay. Thank

3424
02:43:08,080 --> 02:43:15,479
you. Nella Truman,

3425
02:43:11,600 --> 02:43:15,479
if I'm saying that right.

3426
02:43:24,319 --> 02:43:30,960
» Good morning, council mayor.

3427
02:43:27,600 --> 02:43:34,160
How are you? Um, I have a whole bunch

3428
02:43:30,960 --> 02:43:37,760
written to say today. Um, my name is

3429
02:43:34,160 --> 02:43:41,920
Pencia Truhan. I live at 2401 Lost Lake

3430
02:43:37,760 --> 02:43:44,720
Lane, your ward three um Yukon address,

3431
02:43:41,920 --> 02:43:46,880
Oklahoma City limits and onethird of a

3432
02:43:44,720 --> 02:43:51,200
mile from where the data centers would

3433
02:43:46,880 --> 02:43:54,319
be. I am retired. I have my dreamhouse

3434
02:43:51,200 --> 02:43:55,920
of almost six acres. I have horses. I

3435
02:43:54,319 --> 02:44:01,120
have retired raceh horses from the

3436
02:43:55,920 --> 02:44:02,800
track. Um one is 32 years old. Um I

3437
02:44:01,120 --> 02:44:05,680
can't imagine what his life would be

3438
02:44:02,800 --> 02:44:10,319
like listening to that hum. He's outside

3439
02:44:05,680 --> 02:44:14,560
24/7. I have other horses. Um, I had a

3440
02:44:10,319 --> 02:44:16,800
lot to say. Um, I'm nervous. I'm scared.

3441
02:44:14,560 --> 02:44:20,399
I haven't slept much since all this has

3442
02:44:16,800 --> 02:44:23,439
been going on. Um, it's affecting my

3443
02:44:20,399 --> 02:44:25,359
life. Should I put money in my house?

3444
02:44:23,439 --> 02:44:27,520
Should I stop? What's my home value

3445
02:44:25,359 --> 02:44:30,560
going to be? This is the biggest thing I

3446
02:44:27,520 --> 02:44:32,479
have is my home, my horses, and my life

3447
02:44:30,560 --> 02:44:34,800
where I live. And this could all be

3448
02:44:32,479 --> 02:44:36,640
taken from me.

3449
02:44:34,800 --> 02:44:39,040
Um

3450
02:44:36,640 --> 02:44:43,359
it's very personal.

3451
02:44:39,040 --> 02:44:46,319
I uh I had a whole bunch written to say

3452
02:44:43,359 --> 02:44:48,399
um but basically these data centers do

3453
02:44:46,319 --> 02:44:51,600
not belong in our communities. This is

3454
02:44:48,399 --> 02:44:54,000
our community. We are basically a few

3455
02:44:51,600 --> 02:44:56,080
houses on Ridgeland and two

3456
02:44:54,000 --> 02:44:58,800
subdivisions, mine and one across the

3457
02:44:56,080 --> 02:45:04,240
street of 17 homes. There's not a lot of

3458
02:44:58,800 --> 02:45:07,120
us. We all have 5 to 10 acres. Um, but I

3459
02:45:04,240 --> 02:45:12,160
have my dream place and my dreams are at

3460
02:45:07,120 --> 02:45:17,040
stake here. And um, I hope you realize

3461
02:45:12,160 --> 02:45:19,200
this is dire for us out there. Dire.

3462
02:45:17,040 --> 02:45:21,600
Thank you for hearing me and you'll be

3463
02:45:19,200 --> 02:45:23,600
reading my emails more. Appreciate your

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02:45:21,600 --> 02:45:27,000
time. Thank you,

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02:45:23,600 --> 02:45:27,000
» Ronnie Kirk.

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02:45:34,160 --> 02:45:39,359
My name is Ronnie Kirk.

3467
02:45:36,960 --> 02:45:41,359
My address is 2328

3468
02:45:39,359 --> 02:45:45,040
North Missouri.

3469
02:45:41,359 --> 02:45:47,439
Today I'm here to vent about our

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02:45:45,040 --> 02:45:51,680
government

3471
02:45:47,439 --> 02:45:54,680
about all the data centers

3472
02:45:51,680 --> 02:45:54,680
258

3473
02:45:56,560 --> 02:46:01,000
you know 50 years ago

3474
02:46:01,040 --> 02:46:08,800
I worked at a data center

3475
02:46:04,640 --> 02:46:12,880
had 8,000 people work there

3476
02:46:08,800 --> 02:46:17,680
in 20 years I retired from there

3477
02:46:12,880 --> 02:46:19,680
there was only 20 people that I know

3478
02:46:17,680 --> 02:46:21,680
after the government does so much in

3479
02:46:19,680 --> 02:46:24,880
secrecy

3480
02:46:21,680 --> 02:46:26,560
all these data centers

3481
02:46:24,880 --> 02:46:30,479
you know

3482
02:46:26,560 --> 02:46:33,359
President Lincoln he freed the slaves

3483
02:46:30,479 --> 02:46:35,760
President

3484
02:46:33,359 --> 02:46:40,399
Harry Truman

3485
02:46:35,760 --> 02:46:40,399
president dropped the atomic bomb

3486
02:46:41,359 --> 02:46:47,640
Kennedy

3487
02:46:43,520 --> 02:46:47,640
put the man on the moon.

3488
02:46:48,640 --> 02:46:58,160
All the I mean our government

3489
02:46:53,279 --> 02:47:01,359
in seven years they plan on

3490
02:46:58,160 --> 02:47:04,479
going back to the moon and put habitat

3491
02:47:01,359 --> 02:47:07,359
up there. That's when I think all these

3492
02:47:04,479 --> 02:47:10,080
they need all these plants so when they

3493
02:47:07,359 --> 02:47:14,000
start making stuff at different ones

3494
02:47:10,080 --> 02:47:17,279
they can have a plant a missile launched

3495
02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:20,880
in a month's time.

3496
02:47:17,279 --> 02:47:22,880
So that's why I think

3497
02:47:20,880 --> 02:47:26,319
that they're doing it. I'm getting old

3498
02:47:22,880 --> 02:47:29,600
in my life. I've seen a lot of stuff and

3499
02:47:26,319 --> 02:47:32,600
I believe this is going to happen in

3500
02:47:29,600 --> 02:47:32,600
2030

3501
02:47:33,200 --> 02:47:39,840
they plan on being on the moon. Thank

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02:47:37,040 --> 02:47:41,359
you.

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02:47:39,840 --> 02:47:42,720
» Thank you. That concludes citizens to be

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02:47:41,359 --> 02:47:46,840
heard which brings us item 14

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02:47:42,720 --> 02:47:46,840
adjournment and we are adjourned.