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[21:32] Good morning. We're going to get started
[21:33] this morning with an invocation led by
[21:36] Pastor Ren Schuffman of Freedom
[21:38] Fellowship Church. And that'll be
[21:40] followed by the Pledge of Allegiance led
[21:42] by Levi Maline Asher and Hannah Pek
[21:45] representing Scouting America Troops 177
[21:48] and 6177.
[21:50] Please stand as you are able. Uh it's an
[21:52] honor to be with you guys again.
[21:55] Let me pray.
[21:57] Heavenly Father, creator of the
[21:59] universe. Lord, we thank you and we
[22:01] beseech you this day. Father, would you
[22:04] help lead these men and women as they
[22:07] lead our great city? Father, the word
[22:10] says that what I bless is blessed and
[22:11] what I curse is cursed. And so today, I
[22:14] speak blessing over this council, over
[22:17] their leadership, over this city. Lord,
[22:20] as we step into a year where we
[22:21] celebrate 250 years as a nation,
[22:26] Lord, by men who put you first, by
[22:29] leaders who sought your voice, your
[22:32] counsel, and your wisdom, Lord, would
[22:34] that be the standard again? Would that
[22:39] be the call that your wisdom, your will,
[22:42] your plan for our city, would be
[22:46] adopted,
[22:47] would be uh uh carried. Father, Lord,
[22:51] would heaven reign on earth here through
[22:54] our leadership? Would you give them wise
[22:56] counsel? Would you give them uh great
[22:58] plans? Would you give them uh future
[23:00] vision, Lord, to see how great our city
[23:03] could be? That this city would be an
[23:05] example to the nation, Lord. that our
[23:07] values,
[23:09] that our systems,
[23:12] that our hearts are to be followed, that
[23:15] it would be a standard for our nation.
[23:17] Lord, would you bless every area of our
[23:19] government, Lord, as the kingdom of
[23:22] heaven rules and reigns in this place,
[23:24] Lord? Let it not be the kingdom of man,
[23:27] but Lord, let it be your kingdom that
[23:29] governs this great nation. Your favor
[23:32] that causes us to be blessed, that we
[23:34] would be a people set apart that people
[23:37] would know your love
[23:40] and your compassion in action by the way
[23:44] that you move through this city, Lord.
[23:46] that others would look and say somehow
[23:48] every storm that comes they weather and
[23:52] they come out more favored. Father I
[23:54] bless this meeting with wisdom Lord that
[23:58] your plans are done in the mighty name
[24:00] of Jesus. Amen.
[24:13] Please join us in the pledge of
[24:14] allegiance.
[24:17] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[24:20] United States of America and to the
[24:22] republic for which it stands, one nation
[24:25] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[24:29] justice for all.
[24:31] » You may be seated.
[24:35] » Thank you. Thank you, Pastor Chefman.
[24:37] Thank you, Levi, Matteline, Asher, and
[24:39] Hannah.
[24:42] All right, I call this meeting of the
[24:43] city council to order. And we have uh a
[24:47] presentation to make. Item 3A under
[24:49] office of the mayor. And I'll make my
[24:50] way to the front for that. And Brooklyn,
[24:53] please join me.
[25:10] Brooklyn, you are our employee of the
[25:13] month and so we would love to learn a
[25:15] little bit more about you and so I'd ask
[25:17] the clerk to read this resolution.
[25:20] » Whereas Brooklyn Rogers has been a city
[25:22] employee for 21 years and serves as
[25:25] administrative specialist for the
[25:27] general services department. And whereas
[25:30] Brooklyn consistently demonstrates
[25:32] outstanding teamwork and dedication in
[25:35] supporting the accounts payable team
[25:37] through timely followup, thorough
[25:39] research, and dependable assistance on a
[25:42] wide variety of matters.
[25:45] And whereas Brooklyn takes ownership of
[25:47] every concern brought to her, responding
[25:50] promptly, accurately, and with a
[25:53] commitment to finding effective
[25:55] solutions. And whereas Brooklyn recently
[25:58] went above and beyond while assisting
[26:00] with a vendor statement by carefully
[26:02] identifying each item in question and
[26:05] determining the appropriate department,
[26:07] providing clarity where documentation
[26:10] was incomplete. And whereas Brooklyn's
[26:13] attention to detail, reliability, and
[26:15] willingness to exceed expectations have
[26:18] strengthened the accounts payable team's
[26:21] ability to serve city departments and
[26:23] vendors efficiently.
[26:26] And whereas Brooklyn is widely
[26:27] recognized by her co-workers as a
[26:30] trusted, dependable, and valued team
[26:32] member whose professionalism and
[26:35] positive attitude contribute to the
[26:37] success of the department. Now,
[26:39] therefore, be it resolved by the mayor
[26:41] and council of the city of Oklahoma City
[26:44] that they do hereby thank and commend
[26:46] Brooklyn Rogers July 2026 South Oklahoma
[26:50] City Kanas Club employee of the month.
[26:54] Well, thank you. Well, uh, Brooklyn,
[26:56] we're so grateful for your service as
[26:58] one of the 5,000 greatest city employees
[27:00] in the country, and we'd love to, uh, I
[27:03] think as a council commemorate that with
[27:05] passage of this resolution. So, let's
[27:07] see if we can get a motion in a second.
[27:18] Is that coming along?
[27:21] I don't see anything. Is it Is we have a
[27:23] motion in a second?
[27:24] » Yes.
[27:25] » Okay. I wish to vote. I cast your votes.
[27:32] » You'll have to let me know.
[27:34] » Passed. All right. We're going to take
[27:35] the word for it, Brooklyn. We think it
[27:37] passed.
[27:38] » Um, well, now you said you maybe don't
[27:41] want to give like a whole speech, and I
[27:43] I said, "Can I just hold the microphone
[27:45] and you say thank you?" How does that
[27:46] sound? Deal.
[27:47] » Deal.
[27:48] » All right.
[27:49] » I would.
[27:50] » Oh. Oh, there's more coming out than
[27:52] just thinking. There you go. You've
[27:53] warmed up. All right. Here you go,
[27:54] Brooklyn.
[27:55] » Okay. Thank you. I'm so overwhelmed.
[28:00] Um, but thanks for my co-workers. Thanks
[28:03] for showing up for me. Thank you for
[28:05] making it easy to go to work. And I've
[28:08] been in four departments and stuff and
[28:10] but I think general services is long
[28:12] good. So, I I've been at So, thank you
[28:14] very much. Thanks to accounts payable
[28:16] for nominating me or something. And
[28:19] [laughter]
[28:20] thank you.
[28:21] » Awesome. I knew you could do it. Let's
[28:22] hear for Brooklyn. [applause]
[28:49] All right, we're still on office of the
[28:51] mayor. Um, I have a significant number
[28:53] of appointments today. Customarily, I
[28:57] might shout out the boards that are
[28:59] affected. That may be um impractical
[29:02] today, but it's items B through AJ. um
[29:08] dozens of uh boards affected by these
[29:11] appointments today. Now, there is one
[29:13] I'd like to pull out for a separate vote
[29:16] um just because of a uh family
[29:19] relationship that one of our council
[29:21] members have. And so, let's vote on item
[29:24] 3R, the appointments to the Metropolitan
[29:26] Library Commission first. If we could
[29:28] just get a motion on that one.
[29:35] Have a motion and a second. cast your
[29:37] votes.
[29:42] Passes unanimously. Now the rest, if uh
[29:45] there are no questions or comments,
[29:47] would be items B through Q and S through
[29:50] AJ as a group.
[29:57] Have a motion in a second. Cast your
[29:58] votes.
[30:06] passes unanimously and um thank you for
[30:09] your contributions to some of these with
[30:10] nominations and there'll probably be not
[30:13] maybe quite as many but quite a few
[30:15] coming up on August 18th as well. Um all
[30:19] right then we have um
[30:24] let's see okay this is for Al. All
[30:25] right. So, we have a travel. This is
[30:27] item AK. This is a resolution approving
[30:29] travel expenses for me to attend the
[30:32] LA28 summer local leaders roundt meeting
[30:34] in Long Beach on August 20th. We could
[30:37] take a motion on that.
[30:45] » We have a motion and a second. Cast your
[30:46] votes.
[30:49] Passes unanimously.
[30:51] Um, and then we have item A. This is a
[30:54] resolution approving travel expenses for
[30:56] me to attend the 2026 mayors and police
[30:58] chiefs meeting on September 24th as well
[31:00] as the uh US Conference of Mayors fall
[31:02] leadership meeting on September 24th
[31:04] through 26th in San Diego. Now, we do
[31:06] have someone who signed up to speak
[31:07] Namu.
[31:17] Um hello.
[31:20] So, I actually originally came here for
[31:23] the flock contract renewal, and I know
[31:24] that's been moved, but I also saw this
[31:27] on the agenda. I feel like people there
[31:30] at this conference, uh, there's going to
[31:32] be a lot of people there, a lot of
[31:33] vendors there that weren't our distrust,
[31:36] right? I don't understand why you really
[31:38] need to go to this, uh, especially right
[31:41] now where there's a lot of tension
[31:42] considering a flock vote renewal. It's
[31:44] already expired. I don't understand why
[31:46] you're like continuing to delay this
[31:48] Oh, sorry. excuse my language, but
[31:50] why are you continuing to delay this?
[31:52] Um, going to this is kind of a slap in
[31:55] the face to the uh Oklahoma public. I'm
[31:58] real concerned about what you're going
[31:59] to quotequote learn from this
[32:01] conference. I don't really respect that
[32:04] at all. We're very frustrated with this
[32:07] uh flock renewal and we're very
[32:08] frustrated with what this conference
[32:10] could potentially lead towards, what
[32:12] technologies
[32:14] um I keep seeing stuff pop up
[32:16] everywhere.
[32:18] surveillance devices. I don't know why
[32:20] you're smiling at me. Um, is it
[32:22] entertaining? Real entertaining, huh?
[32:25] » Okay.
[32:28] I'm very frustrated with this. A lot of
[32:30] people in my neighborhood are frustrated
[32:32] with the rise of surveillance devices.
[32:33] This conference, I feel, is a moment
[32:35] where you can learn how to use more of
[32:37] this stuff, more contracts, how to worm
[32:40] your way through this stuff. I am very
[32:43] upset about this.
[32:47] That's all I have to say.
[32:48] » All right. Thank you. We're on item AL
[32:50] and we can take a motion in a second.
[33:03] We have a motion to second. Cast your
[33:04] votes.
[33:07] Passes 8 to one and with the necessary
[33:10] six affirmative votes. Uh item four
[33:13] items from council. We have a couple of
[33:16] travel resolutions here as well. Item 4
[33:18] A is a resolution approving expenses for
[33:21] council members Carter and Stonecipher
[33:23] to attend the National League of Cities
[33:25] in Nashville in November. Take a motion
[33:27] on that.
[33:35] A motion in a second. Cast your votes.
[33:42] passes 8 to1 and with the necessary six
[33:44] affirmative votes. Item 4B is a
[33:46] resolution approving travel expenses for
[33:48] Councilman Carter to attend OML annual
[33:51] conference in Tulsa in September.
[33:58] A motion and a second. Cast your votes.
[34:07] Passes unanimously. Um item five, city
[34:11] manager reports. Mr. City Manager,
[34:14] » Thank you, mayor. Uh we do have the
[34:16] sales and use tax report on uh for this
[34:18] morning. This is our first uh sales tax
[34:20] check for the year for the fiscal year.
[34:23] Started off very strong. We had 4.8%
[34:26] growth in sales tax. Um we had 28%
[34:30] growth in use tax. Uh I want to
[34:34] acknowledge that there was a correction
[34:36] that was made last year for the first
[34:37] five months of the year. Uh there was a
[34:39] vendor that was being remitted to the
[34:41] wrong city that got corrected. Uh I
[34:43] think it was either November or
[34:44] December. So we'll see that offset
[34:47] through this first part of the year.
[34:48] However, even when you when you adjust
[34:51] for that, it's still 17% growth in use
[34:53] tax. You just remember that use tax, we
[34:56] see a lot of variation. There was one
[34:57] major vendor that was recatategorized to
[35:00] another category that's now remitting
[35:02] use tax that previously was categorized
[35:04] as a service uh sector. So there's that
[35:07] may continue on for a few months that we
[35:09] may see that still. Uh so we'll continue
[35:11] to monitor that. It's a really good
[35:13] start overall $1.7 billion above target
[35:16] in month number one. I will caveat just
[35:20] a little bit that in the next month
[35:21] we've got preliminary sales tax numbers
[35:23] and it looks like sales tax is down by
[35:25] about 5.7%
[35:27] next month. But you remember that the
[35:30] finals, the NBA finals in the
[35:31] championship last year really strongly
[35:34] affected our August of last year. I
[35:36] think it was somewhere around 12% growth
[35:38] last year. So that again is an anomaly
[35:41] that's in the data. It will look like
[35:42] it's down. We'll just watch this over
[35:44] the first two, three months and see what
[35:46] the trends tend to be, but it's a great
[35:48] start alto together. Anyway, um and then
[35:50] we have claims and payroll and that can
[35:52] be found on OKC.gov. And that's all that
[35:53] I have.
[35:56] » Thank you. [clears throat] Excuse me.
[35:57] Item six, journal of council
[35:58] proceedings. We have items A and B. We
[36:00] could take with one motion.
[36:06] The motion in a second. Cast your votes.
[36:08] [clears throat]
[36:09] Passes unanimously. Item seven, request
[36:12] for uncontested continuences. Mr. City
[36:14] Manager,
[36:15] » We have several items on today. The
[36:18] first item is on page seven. This is
[36:20] item seven. I'm sorry, this is item 9A.
[36:25] This is the flock contract. We're going
[36:27] to strike this item and we'll bring it
[36:29] back at the next meeting. We have to
[36:31] make an adjustment to We did not get the
[36:35] amended language that we had agreed to.
[36:38] We did not get that amended language
[36:39] onto the agenda. We got to make sure
[36:40] we've got that on there. So, we'll bring
[36:42] that item back at the next meeting. Um,
[36:45] and then on item 11 X,
[36:49] » I'm sorry, 9X
[36:51] on page nine, we're going to strike that
[36:53] item, bring that back at a later date.
[36:57] Item
[36:58] 11 C on page 19 is PUD 21105. That'll be
[37:03] deferred to the 18th of August.
[37:08] Continuing on page 20, item 11D,
[37:12] this is PUD 2124. That also will be
[37:14] deferred to the 18th of August. Then on
[37:18] page 23, item 11P1, unsecured
[37:21] structures. All of these items will be
[37:23] stricken from the agenda. Item B, 4545
[37:26] Kenyon Drive, the owner has secured.
[37:28] Item F, 737 Southwest 48th Street, the
[37:31] owner has secured. And item G, 8405
[37:34] Southwest 49th 49th Circle, the owner
[37:37] has secured. And that's all the items
[37:38] that I have.
[37:42] » All right,
[37:47] we'll now recess the council and convene
[37:48] as the Oklahoma City Municipal
[37:50] Facilities Authority. We do have someone
[37:52] who has signed up to speak on item B on
[37:55] this docket. Steve Hunt,
[38:02] [clears throat]
[38:06] Steve Hunt, 6300 Westbrook. Um, give me
[38:09] just a second here. I'm a little
[38:11] unprepared today.
[38:14] Okay. So,
[38:17] Una Solutions Incorporated uh for the
[38:20] Uni Budget Pro Enterprise Budgeting
[38:22] Platform, a cloud-based software SAS
[38:25] offering including software
[38:26] subscriptions, etc., etc., $890,000
[38:30] minimum. Um, a reporter friend about 10
[38:33] days ago messaged me and said, "Hey,
[38:36] there. Do you know of any private equity
[38:38] firms uh monitoring streets on school
[38:40] buses to find violations and then giving
[38:43] them splitting ticket revenues with
[38:45] municipalities 6040?" I'm like, "Is that
[38:48] bus patrol?" And they're like, "Yeah,
[38:49] that's bus patrol." And then we go on
[38:52] and we're like, "They're owned by GI
[38:53] Partners Private Equity." And um, let's
[38:57] see if there's anything else. Okay, fast
[39:00] forward to uh Friday. I pick up my
[39:03] agenda and then I see Uni Solutions um
[39:07] another SAS that we're given a huge
[39:09] contract to and I look them up and
[39:12] they're owned by uh GI Partners, the
[39:14] people that do bus patrol, the flock
[39:16] camera style [snorts] school bus
[39:19] monitoring um thing. And as I read into
[39:24] the uh the contract and the details of
[39:28] Uni Solutions budget pro enterprise
[39:31] budgeting platform which is basically a
[39:33] glorified excel spreadsheet that we give
[39:35] a million dollars to. They use the same
[39:39] AI systems that they use with bus patrol
[39:43] which as I said is school buses with
[39:47] flock style cameras on them. And as I
[39:50] dug in more and more to this contract,
[39:52] it was pretty awful. On their website,
[39:55] they brag about it uh reducing freedom
[39:58] of information requests 50%.
[40:01] I mean, like, okay, so he we're giving a
[40:05] million dollars to these ghouls, these
[40:07] these bus patrol guy, and bus patrol is
[40:10] the revived corpse of another company,
[40:13] uh, Force Multiplier, which was a part
[40:15] of the biggest scandal in Dallas
[40:17] municipal history. You can look it up.
[40:19] It was 2017. Um, and a lot of the same
[40:22] actors still work for them. Um, you
[40:25] know, I talk a lot about this stuff and
[40:26] there's so much to it. You know, it
[40:28] takes a sentence to tell a lie and 10
[40:30] minutes to debunk it. And the reality of
[40:32] these equity firms is that they are
[40:34] using recovery money to buy all these
[40:37] companies. Uh, Zer policy, quantitative
[40:42] easing, all that money supposed to be
[40:44] used
[40:45] » For us is actually used to buy up all
[40:47] these companies. and UNIA Solutions. I
[40:50] mean, I don't know if anyone looked at
[40:51] it. Uh, I got deep into the contract.
[40:53] Uh, item 29 in the contract talks about
[40:57] how they cut down on freedom of
[41:00] information requests. Their AI goes
[41:02] through everything and puts things into
[41:04] lockboxes and if a citizen requests it,
[41:07] there's a 7-day process with the courts.
[41:10] So, um, I normally speak just for the
[41:13] people out in channel 20 land on YouTube
[41:15] because I know you all kind of I mean,
[41:18] no offense, but I'd like for you to
[41:20] consider because the uh quest for
[41:23] proposals, there were nine others that
[41:25] actually looked.
[41:25] » So, we're on the MFA docket and we have
[41:27] items A through N. We could take with
[41:30] one motion.
[41:37] A motion and a second. Cast your votes.
[41:46] passes unanimously. Now we'll adjourn
[41:49] OCMFA and convene as the Oklahoma City
[41:51] Public Property Authority. Um we do have
[41:54] uh someone who signed up to speak on
[41:56] item E, Brittney Grant.
[42:07] » Good morning, council. My name is
[42:09] Britney Grant. I'm the president of the
[42:10] East End Historic District and
[42:12] underneath Councilman Kamal Pennington
[42:14] in Ward 7. I just want to continue to
[42:16] thank you for your commitment in
[42:18] investing in our corridor to make it
[42:20] more vibrant and welcoming. Um so, and
[42:22] thank you for continuing to be a great
[42:24] partner for with us in the Northeast
[42:26] Historic District.
[42:28] » Thank you.
[42:30] » Uh on item F, we have Rachel Crawford.
[42:44] Good morning, city council. I'm Rachel
[42:45] Crawford, executive director with the
[42:47] Plaza District, and I just wanted to
[42:49] take a moment to tell you thank you so
[42:51] much for the city's support through the
[42:53] commercial district revitalization
[42:55] program of the Plaza District. Wasn't
[42:58] too long ago that in maybe a decade ago,
[43:02] the Plaza District had, if we're
[43:04] counting everybody that's even on the
[43:06] outliers, about 20 businesses. Today, we
[43:08] have 65 businesses in counting within a
[43:11] threeb block stretch. Um, to my
[43:14] estimates, we've increased market value
[43:16] by about 300% over the last five or six
[43:20] years. We do an annual report that we
[43:23] survey our business owners and ask them,
[43:26] you know, how many people do you have
[43:27] employed? Um, how are things going? And
[43:30] we have two nonprofits that help make
[43:32] all of the work possible for what puts
[43:35] us on the map as a great destination in
[43:38] in Oklahoma City. Um, to my estimates,
[43:41] out of those 65 businesses, we generate
[43:44] around 1.7 to 2 million in sales tax
[43:47] revenue. So, I just wanted to come here
[43:50] today to personally say thank you so
[43:52] much. This funding has a tremendous
[43:54] impact, helps keep a lot of businesses
[43:57] open because it allows us to do what we
[43:59] do best, which is hosting events and
[44:02] supporting small business owners. Um, so
[44:05] I just wanted to say thank you so much.
[44:07] » Any big events coming soon?
[44:10] » Yes, actually, uh, next Friday, Skate
[44:12] the Plaza. It's from 5 to 10 p.m. We
[44:15] estimate about 8,000 people will be
[44:16] there. Um, just in case there are other
[44:19] event organizers wondering how do we do
[44:21] it financially, um, we've invested about
[44:24] $2,000 in the event to bring 8,000
[44:26] people to the district, which is a
[44:28] pretty great return. And then if you're
[44:30] free, um, September 26th, we have Plaza
[44:33] Wells Mural Expo and Plaza District
[44:35] Festival. It's the 27th year, so I
[44:37] invite you all to come and check it out.
[44:39] Thank you.
[44:40] » And Rachel, before you leave, um, I just
[44:42] want to thank you. you um have invited
[44:44] me the last few years to the state of
[44:46] the plaza event that you all host and
[44:48] this year I believe is talking about
[44:50] your annual report. You you shared what
[44:52] your annual operating budget is and I
[44:54] was kind of floored by by the amount
[44:57] because of how much how many events you
[44:59] put on, how much activity you all have
[45:01] generated. Can you share that with
[45:03] everyone here what your annual operating
[45:04] budget is?
[45:05] » Yeah, the annual operating budget I've
[45:07] got to add it between both nonprofits.
[45:09] Um, we're looking at about $220,000
[45:13] annual operating budget, and that covers
[45:16] one full-time employee, me, and two
[45:19] part-time, one for marketing assistance
[45:22] and event support, and the other for
[45:24] groundskeeping and maintenance. So, we
[45:26] do on average most of our block parties,
[45:28] we produce for about five or $600, which
[45:31] draws in,
[45:32] » I don't know, anywhere from four or
[45:34] 5,000 people for a small one or 14
[45:36] 15,000 for a large one.
[45:37] » Yeah. I just was like floored cuz I was
[45:39] like, "Oh, surely they have like a
[45:40] million dollar, you know, like they're
[45:42] doing so much." And that I think that
[45:44] just is a testament to how efficient you
[45:47] all are with and and how many volunteers
[45:49] you all engage through your board. Your
[45:50] board is very active from what I
[45:52] understand. And so the ability to really
[45:54] um you know, put on all these events and
[45:58] um I think just goes to show how um how
[46:02] much like love people are putting into
[46:04] the district. So,
[46:05] » Thank you. And we are always looking for
[46:07] board members and volunteers. So if
[46:10] you're interested
[46:10] » And maybe sponsorships
[46:11] » Director plaza district.org.
[46:14] » Um may I [clears throat] have two notes
[46:16] on that. First a note of gratitude. I
[46:20] believe it's the anniversary uh for you
[46:22] recently of uh several years serving in
[46:25] this role.
[46:25] » Yeah. July 29th is 5 years as executive
[46:28] director of the Plaza District.
[46:29] » Congratulations. I thought I saw
[46:30] something on Instagram like that. So I
[46:32] appreciate your service. On
[46:34] Councilwoman's note, and I believe I've
[46:36] mentioned this before, um, and so I'm
[46:39] gonna ask everyone up here to think a
[46:40] little bit outside the box. Um, you
[46:43] know, there was a time, I want to say
[46:45] 2008, when I was in grad school in Still
[46:49] Water and I would come down to visit
[46:51] friends here and I saw the improvements
[46:53] to the Western Avenue district, the
[46:55] infrastructure improvements that really
[46:58] slowed traffic down enough where people
[46:59] started saying, "Wait, I'm going to
[47:01] maybe go to this restaurant, go to this
[47:04] store."
[47:05] Right? It was like the main street
[47:07] revitalization
[47:09] beginning, right?
[47:12] We're now in a place where we have so
[47:14] many successful commercial districts
[47:16] that are tourist destinations that are
[47:19] destinations for our own people. And I
[47:21] think my outside the box ask here
[47:24] building on the numbers we just heard
[47:25] from Rachel and Councilwoman is I would
[47:28] ask the city to start thinking about
[47:30] what does
[47:32] better investing in the economic
[47:36] vitality when it comes to their budgets,
[47:39] their operating budgets. How many staff
[47:42] did you say like paid staff?
[47:44] » Uh three. Two part-time and one
[47:46] full-time. So
[47:48] these three paid folk, two part-time,
[47:52] right, are putting on events that are
[47:56] getting national recognition. The mural,
[47:58] I mean, good lord. And I I just would
[48:03] want us to start thinking less about the
[48:06] big businesses out there that we could
[48:07] be investing in to bring here, which we
[48:09] have, but what happens when we invest in
[48:12] our main streets all across Oklahoma
[48:16] City, whether it's Capitol Hill,
[48:17] Stockyard, FO Plaza, Uptown, 39th
[48:19] Street, Britain District, Windsor
[48:21] District, and really said that, hey, you
[48:24] all have I'm so sorry if I left out. of
[48:27] course know there are more uh but that's
[48:29] kind of my point. There are so many
[48:32] successful, thriving districts in our
[48:34] city um where we've invested in their
[48:37] infrastructure after decades of
[48:39] disinvestment. And I just would really
[48:42] encourage us to think about and I'm
[48:44] going to keep beating the drum. Um what
[48:46] would not not just throwing money at
[48:49] these districts but really sitting down
[48:51] with the district leaders and saying
[48:52] what do you need to ensure that of
[48:55] course we want volunteers but we want to
[48:57] make sure you are viable sustainable uh
[49:01] enduring because it's a sales tax
[49:04] revenue generator for this city when
[49:06] people are going to the different
[49:08] merchants um who took a chance on these
[49:12] districts and I just think that's very
[49:14] important especially especially because
[49:15] what we're doing then is also invest in
[49:17] investing in local people, local workers
[49:20] doing this work from adventure district
[49:22] out to the stockyard. So that's really a
[49:24] thing I want us to be thinking about um
[49:27] and council as well. I just I'm so
[49:29] impressed with the work, but I also know
[49:31] I've seen you all stressed and that's a
[49:35] very human response to the work you're
[49:37] doing and I just would like to see us
[49:38] think a little bit deeper about that. So
[49:40] thank you again for your five years and
[49:42] thank you for your service.
[49:43] » Thank you.
[49:48] Thank you. Now we can proceed to the
[49:50] vote on the PPA agenda items A through
[49:53] I.
[49:58] Have a motion and a second. Cast your
[50:00] votes.
[50:07] Passes unanimously.
[50:10] All right. Right. Now, we'll adjourn
[50:11] OCPA and reconvene as the council where
[50:13] we are on item nine, the consent docket.
[50:16] Um, there are no items currently
[50:18] scheduled for a presentation. Uh, two
[50:20] have been struck as previously
[50:22] indicated. Is there um any item that a
[50:25] council member wishes to pull out for a
[50:27] separate vote or separate comment or
[50:29] question?
[50:35] hearing. None. We'll take a motion on
[50:37] the consent docket. Items A through CP
[50:40] or actually B through CP. A was
[50:42] previously struck. We have a motion and
[50:44] a second. Cast your votes.
[50:48] Passes unanimously. Now we're on item
[50:50] 10, the concurrence docket. We have
[50:52] items A through P. We could take with
[50:55] one motion.
[51:01] A motion and a second. Cast your votes.
[51:07] passes unanimously. Item 11 A, we're on
[51:11] item 11, which is items for individual
[51:12] consideration. Item 11 A is an ordinance
[51:14] on final hearing recommended for
[51:16] approval resoning 1636 Southwest 35th
[51:19] from R1 to C3. Uh, Councilwoman Hammond,
[51:23] no one is signed to speak, and that
[51:24] statement is true for all of the zoning
[51:26] cases today.
[51:27] » Okay. Um I will this was um a recommend
[51:31] for approval by planning uh staff and uh
[51:35] unanimous support by the planning
[51:37] commission. So I will move for approval.
[51:46] We have a motion and a second. Cast your
[51:47] votes.
[51:53] Passes unanimously.
[51:58] Oh, I don't know what's going on there,
[51:59] but this is working. So, 11B uh is an
[52:03] ordinance on final hearing. It was
[52:04] recommended for approval reszoning 25
[52:06] southwest 50th from SPUD 1448 to R2.
[52:12] Councilman Stone, known as signed to
[52:13] speak, uh although someone has signed up
[52:15] to speak for a much later case and I
[52:17] will bring that up at that time, but
[52:18] yours is clear. Go ahead.
[52:20] » All right. Thank you, mayor. Um this is
[52:23] basically a single residential
[52:26] duplex uh development overrun 50th in
[52:29] Santa Fe. So uh
[52:32] city nodded for its approval as well as
[52:34] the planning commission. So I'll go
[52:35] ahead and move for its approval.
[52:45] All right, we have a motion and a
[52:46] second. Cast your votes.
[52:52] passes unanimously. Items C and D were
[52:55] previously struck, which brings us to
[52:56] item E. Um item E2 is an ordinance on
[53:00] final hearing that was recommended for
[53:01] approval resoning 4200 Southwest 29th
[53:03] from I2 and AE2 to PUD 2134 and AE2. Um
[53:08] item E1 is an amendment to the master
[53:11] design statement relative uh to this
[53:14] item. This item was deferred uh on three
[53:16] previous occasions and councilwoman
[53:19] avers no one assigned to speak.
[53:23] » Um Mark, if you want to present the
[53:25] amendments.
[53:26] » Sure. Uh good morning. Mark Zitzau with
[53:28] Johnson and Associates. Address is one
[53:30] Sheran Avenue. Uh this is a a multif
[53:32] family project uh at Meridian and 29th
[53:35] Street. Uh in addition to the amendments
[53:37] that were just uh noticed, we're going
[53:41] to add two additional TEES uh to the
[53:43] project. The first one is replacing the
[53:46] fencing language. And so just for
[53:48] simplicity, I'll just I'll read it in in
[53:50] its entirety. No less than an 8 foot
[53:53] high sight proof fence shall be required
[53:55] along the east, west, and south boundary
[53:58] PUB boundaries and shall not be required
[54:00] along Southwest 29th. said sight proof
[54:02] screen should be a horizontal aluminum
[54:04] fence and shall be reviewed at the
[54:06] specific plan stage. The second TE that
[54:09] our client agreed to would be
[54:11] notifications requiring nearby
[54:13] industrial operations will be included
[54:14] in leasing documents.
[54:18] » Happy to answer any questions.
[54:20] » Thank you. Um so this is a a development
[54:24] that is had required a comp plan
[54:26] amendment. So, we added added some tees
[54:28] to address potential compatibility
[54:30] issues both for the the new residents as
[54:33] well as the existing neighbors. And I do
[54:37] I need to make a motion to amend and
[54:40] then do a motion to approve. Okay. So,
[54:41] I'd like to make a motion to accept the
[54:43] amendments as read by Mark.
[54:47] » I'm sorry, what was the what was the
[54:49] statement? You
[54:50] » Motion to amend um the TEES as read by
[54:54] the applicant.
[54:55] » Okay. Okay. So, this is in addition to
[54:57] E1, right? This is a
[55:00] » All right. We've got that motion. Why
[55:02] don't we bring it up for a
[55:04] virtual motion?
[55:07] And I don't know. Is that what's showing
[55:08] on the other side as well? Okay.
[55:10] » So, if I can get a second.
[55:12] » Oh, we're not working either.
[55:14] » Okay. All right. So, we need a verbal
[55:17] second. We've got a verbal motion.
[55:20] » And then you said we can raise hands on
[55:21] the votes.
[55:23] » Yes.
[55:23] » Okay.
[55:24] » All right. So, uh, all in favor of the
[55:28] amendment just moved, please raise your
[55:31] hand.
[55:34] » Okay. Um, it's self-evident that all
[55:36] hands were raised, so I won't even call
[55:38] for a nay. Um, passes unanimously. And
[55:41] that leaves us with
[55:42] » A motion to approve.
[55:44] » You want to do E1, the amendment to the
[55:46] master design statement.
[55:47] » Or was that do I
[55:48] » Have to do them separately?
[55:50] » I don't know. I got I wasn't clear if
[55:51] that was I got the impression that was a
[55:53] different amendment. what you just
[55:54] proposed. So that you still want the
[55:56] amendment to the master design.
[55:57] » Yes, sir.
[55:58] » Okay.
[55:58] » Thank you.
[55:59] » All right. So this is uh so we have a
[56:01] motion. Is there a second for E1?
[56:03] » Second.
[56:03] » All right. We have a motion and a
[56:05] second. All in favor raise your hand.
[56:09] » All right. All unanimous. Passes
[56:12] unanimously. Now we're on E2. Do you
[56:15] wish to make a motion for that? Council
[56:17] eliminators.
[56:22] » Yes. Motion to approve, please.
[56:24] » All right. Second.
[56:25] » We have a motion and a second. All in
[56:27] favor of item E2, raise your hand.
[56:32] » All right. Passes unanimously.
[56:34] Okay. Working so far.
[56:38] Item uh F is an ordinance on final
[56:40] hearing. It was recommended for approval
[56:42] resoning 10324 Southwest 29th from R1 to
[56:46] PUD2143A.
[56:48] Councilwoman Avers. No one has signed up
[56:50] to speak.
[56:51] » Thank you. This was excellently
[56:53] coordinated in advance of application.
[56:54] So motion to approve.
[56:58] » I'm sorry. Did you say you move it?
[56:59] » Motion to approve.
[57:00] » All right. Is there a second?
[57:03] » Second.
[57:04] » Got a motion and a second. All in favor,
[57:06] raise your hand.
[57:09] » Passes unanimously.
[57:11] Item G is an ordinance on final hearing.
[57:13] It was recommended for approval.
[57:15] Reszoning 2844 Lancaster Lane from R1 to
[57:18] SPD 1816.
[57:21] Uh, Councilman Cooper, no assigned to
[57:23] speak.
[57:24] » Yes, but the applicant is here, right? I
[57:26] would like to have a bit of a public
[57:30] understanding of this reasonzoning,
[57:32] please.
[57:37] Morning. David Box, 525 Northwest 11th
[57:40] Street. Here on behalf of the applicant,
[57:42] this is one uh that we actually went to
[57:43] planning commission twice. Uh my client
[57:46] during the appendency of this
[57:47] application was able to acquire the
[57:49] balance of the land to square this off.
[57:51] So uh worked extensively with
[57:53] Commissioner Powers on this. It's really
[57:55] if you if you think of May Avenue north
[57:58] of 63rd Street, this is really the last
[58:00] piece of non-commercial property. Um so
[58:03] we've limited uses, we have limited uh
[58:06] impacts through speaker box separation,
[58:08] landscape buffers, and building
[58:10] setbacks. Uh there was no protest and
[58:12] was recommended for approval unanimously
[58:14] by planning commission.
[58:16] » Can we go back to that screen please?
[58:22] » Okay.
[58:28] Well, I'm glad to see the parking not so
[58:31] prioritized at the front of May like
[58:34] that. I think that's that's good. So,
[58:36] it's an improvement on what I often see
[58:38] over there. All right. Well, I'll move
[58:40] for approval. Do I need to do that
[58:41] verbally? Are we back to screens?
[58:46] » Okay.
[58:46] » Oh, we might be working again. Go ahead.
[58:49] » Something about W two.
[58:52] » We don't see anything on our side of
[58:54] things at that.
[58:54] » All right. Well, we have a motion in a
[58:56] second. Cast your votes. We'll let you
[58:58] know how it ends.
[59:05] » Okay.
[59:15] All right. Passes unanimously. Thank
[59:17] you.
[59:19] » Okay. Now we're on item uh H. This is an
[59:22] ordinance on final hearing. It was
[59:23] recommended for approval reszoning 3000
[59:25] Northwest 150th from SPD848
[59:29] and PUD 302 to SPUD1 1831.
[59:34] Councilman Stone Cipher known as sign of
[59:36] speech.
[59:37] Planning approved. I'm aware of no
[59:40] protesters. So, at this time, I'd move
[59:41] for approval. And by the way, your
[59:44] honor, on the next item, I'm going to
[59:45] have to recuse on behalf of my firm.
[59:47] » Okay.
[59:56] Have a motion, a second. Cast your
[59:57] votes.
[1:00:02] No,
[1:00:03] » We can vote here. This good enough for
[1:00:09] » Passes unanimously.
[1:00:12] All right. Now we're on item I. This is
[1:00:15] an ordinance on final hearing. It was
[1:00:16] recommended for approval reszoning 3131
[1:00:19] Northwest 192nd from 01 to SPD 1840.
[1:00:24] This was deferred on July 21st. And
[1:00:27] Councilman Carter, I understand uh you
[1:00:29] will handle this item. Um and no one
[1:00:32] assigned actually. Yes, sir.
[1:00:34] » Scratch that. Tom Bowling has signed up
[1:00:35] to speak. I don't know his status with
[1:00:38] this project.
[1:00:39] » Are you the applicant?
[1:00:41] » Excuse me.
[1:00:41] » Are you the applicant?
[1:00:42] » No.
[1:00:43] » Oh, okay.
[1:00:44] » He's the one that you just called.
[1:00:46] » Yeah.
[1:00:46] » Yeah.
[1:00:46] » But I mean, are you Tom Bowling? Are you
[1:00:48] the applicant or are you protesting?
[1:00:50] » I'm protesting.
[1:00:51] » Oh, okay. So, maybe we want to hear from
[1:00:52] the applicant first
[1:00:53] » Since he's here. Let's listen to him
[1:00:55] first. David will go with you next. All
[1:00:57] right. Am
[1:00:58] » I up here too early?
[1:00:59] » Go ahead. You have three minutes.
[1:01:05] trying to see a picture come up and you
[1:01:06] got a picture of the
[1:01:07] » Oh, uh, maybe.
[1:01:08] » Okay. what what I should have done since
[1:01:10] I don't know what I'm doing. I guess you
[1:01:12] could say [laughter] we've got a
[1:01:13] development going on the west side of
[1:01:14] the property and we're protesting this
[1:01:17] because when we started building these
[1:01:20] homes right across the fence to the
[1:01:22] west, they're nicer homes, high energy
[1:01:24] efficient
[1:01:26] and now all a sudden here they're coming
[1:01:29] in with these twotory duplexes that was
[1:01:32] going to be twotory office buildings.
[1:01:34] people that won't have no privacy at
[1:01:36] night for the swimming pool. Everybody
[1:01:39] with nicer homes are want swimming pools
[1:01:41] in their backyards. Well, if they build
[1:01:43] a swimming pool in the backyard, these
[1:01:45] people in their twotory duplexes and be
[1:01:48] overlooking the swimming pool.
[1:01:52] So,
[1:01:54] how can we end up helping these people
[1:01:56] keep their privacy
[1:01:59] over this?
[1:02:01] I heard that uh everybody's tried to get
[1:02:03] them to build a little bit higher
[1:02:04] quality duplexes, which I appreciate
[1:02:07] that because we got restrictions on our
[1:02:08] property. Also,
[1:02:11] if there's any way we can keep the
[1:02:13] duplexes from having windows on the west
[1:02:16] side of the building or even ask them to
[1:02:18] put in a taller fence.
[1:02:21] You know, we can't stop people from
[1:02:23] building what the city allows them to
[1:02:24] build, but we've already got five homes
[1:02:28] being built. are already built in this
[1:02:30] area
[1:02:32] trying to sell them and now we end up
[1:02:34] having the twotory duplexes come in.
[1:02:36] Who's going to want to buy them?
[1:02:42] So in this restriction, the buildings
[1:02:45] could be set in accordance to this
[1:02:48] drawing. If they had moved building
[1:02:49] five, six, and seven further to the east
[1:02:52] and put the parking on the other side,
[1:02:54] that would actually give more privacy.
[1:02:59] you know, building eight and nine is not
[1:03:01] so much of a problem, but yet again, I
[1:03:04] don't know if the visual end up coming
[1:03:06] into the back yards of the building.
[1:03:10] So, I'm just asking the city to help us
[1:03:13] restrict what these other people end up
[1:03:16] being seeing in our backyards.
[1:03:22] » Okay. Are you are you done?
[1:03:24] » No. You know, if we can if id known what
[1:03:26] I know now, I should have bring in a
[1:03:28] plaque for y'all to see what's actually
[1:03:29] going on.
[1:03:32] I don't know if we can put this off for
[1:03:33] another month till the next meeting. I
[1:03:35] end up getting a better drawing for you
[1:03:37] so you can see what's going on or what
[1:03:39] can we do here?
[1:03:41] » Did you appear at planning commission?
[1:03:43] » Excuse me.
[1:03:43] » Did you appear at planning commission?
[1:03:46] » Do I appear at him?
[1:03:47] » Did you go to the meeting when this was
[1:03:48] considered and and
[1:03:49] » No, sir. I didn't.
[1:03:50] » Okay.
[1:03:50] » I didn't know about it.
[1:03:51] » Just curious. All right.
[1:03:53] » Thank you, Mr. Ren. Let's listen to the
[1:03:54] the applicant now.
[1:03:58] » Look at what
[1:03:59] » If you wouldn't mind having to see right
[1:04:00] there. We're going to listen to the
[1:04:01] applicant.
[1:04:03] » Good morning. David Box, 525 Northwest
[1:04:05] 11th Street here on behalf of the
[1:04:06] applicant. So, could you go to the
[1:04:08] zoning map, Jared, please? Th this is a
[1:04:11] an area of northwest Oklahoma City that
[1:04:13] has really a broad mix of different
[1:04:15] types of uses. So, uh immediately to the
[1:04:17] south is the Grove. It's a 640 acre
[1:04:20] development that has everything from a
[1:04:22] small lot single family to an elementary
[1:04:24] school and then significant commercial
[1:04:26] along Portland. Uh to the east you have
[1:04:28] R1ZL and then if you go to May Avenue on
[1:04:30] the northeast corner as well as the
[1:04:32] southeast corner you have largecale
[1:04:34] multifamily apartment projects that
[1:04:36] exist. Here we have this kind of random
[1:04:38] triangle of land that's zoned office. Um
[1:04:41] there's not a whole lot of viability for
[1:04:43] an odd-shaped office tract north of
[1:04:46] 192nd Street. So, what we're hoping to
[1:04:48] do on these approximately nine uh excuse
[1:04:50] me, two and a half acres is just put
[1:04:52] nine duplexes. Um we believe duplex to
[1:04:55] be compatible, frankly more compatible
[1:04:56] than what the current 01 use would be.
[1:04:59] In terms of twotory, that's an argument
[1:05:00] that is constantly made by uh
[1:05:03] protesters. Single family residential
[1:05:05] allows twotory uh twotory, single family
[1:05:08] residential next to residential
[1:05:10] compatible. We believe twotory duplex
[1:05:12] next to single family is also
[1:05:14] compatible. staff recommended uh
[1:05:16] approval of this. There was one
[1:05:17] technical evaluation that we agreed to.
[1:05:19] Uh so we would ask that you uh approve
[1:05:21] this in the same manner the planning
[1:05:23] commission did. Happy to answer any
[1:05:24] questions.
[1:05:26] » The duplexes are allowed in 01.
[1:05:28] » No, this is this would take away the 01
[1:05:31] and put in a spud with duplex allowance.
[1:05:34] » Thank you for clearing that up.
[1:05:38] Okay.
[1:05:43] And what is the TE the
[1:05:46] » I'm sorry I was just handed this this
[1:05:47] morning so I'm wanting to kind of double
[1:05:49] check.
[1:05:49] » Yeah. So the the TE uh dealt with um the
[1:05:53] dumpster location
[1:05:55] » If we had dumpsters and then TE2 was
[1:05:57] added by planning commission to um
[1:05:59] increase the architectural standards
[1:06:01] within the SPED which I think is
[1:06:03] significant. Um you know base zoning as
[1:06:06] it relates to residential has no
[1:06:07] architectural standards. Um so we
[1:06:10] through planning commission and the TE
[1:06:11] and now the SPUD have heightened
[1:06:13] architectural standards from what would
[1:06:14] be required under traditional R1 or R2.
[1:06:17] » Okay.
[1:06:20] » So with recommendation from staff as
[1:06:22] well as planning commission then we're
[1:06:24] going to go ahead and let this move us
[1:06:26] forward and move for approval.
[1:06:32] » Can I may I [clears throat] ask a
[1:06:33] question?
[1:06:35] Yeah.
[1:06:36] » Um, I'm looking at our two former
[1:06:38] planning commissioners right now. Uh, do
[1:06:41] you have do y'all have thoughts? I mean,
[1:06:43] I'm not trying to step of course on I
[1:06:45] know councilman asked you to carry it.
[1:06:47] I'm just curious
[1:06:47] » If it was zoned R1, they'd be able to
[1:06:50] build a two-story house by right and we
[1:06:52] wouldn't even be here right now. So, if
[1:06:54] it had the exact same zoning as this
[1:06:56] gentleman's property, they would have
[1:06:58] the ability to build two stories and we
[1:06:59] wouldn't question it. I think the only
[1:07:01] thing to I don't know how how how big is
[1:07:03] the setback between
[1:07:05] » 18 approximately 18 feet from the west.
[1:07:07] » Okay. So that's a pretty good distance.
[1:07:09] Um
[1:07:10] » And even with a twotory whether it be a
[1:07:12] house or a duplex if we added an
[1:07:13] extra-large fence that's not going to be
[1:07:16] tall enough to to block anything. So I
[1:07:18] don't want to put that restriction
[1:07:18] [music] on.
[1:07:20] » So I didn't see anything that we could
[1:07:22] actually do in this sense. Am I wrong?
[1:07:24] » It's difficult. I mean you could we
[1:07:25] could require them to uh what do they
[1:07:28] call it? Like frost the windows. Haven't
[1:07:30] we done that before?
[1:07:31] » Um, but again,
[1:07:34] I it doesn't really sound very
[1:07:37] compatible.
[1:07:37] » We have three story complex across the
[1:07:40] street.
[1:07:40] » Uh, so south and east at 192nd May, you
[1:07:43] have an existing apartment complex at
[1:07:45] the souththeast corner. You have zoning
[1:07:48] entitled to allow a three-story
[1:07:50] apartment complex on the northeast
[1:07:52] corner
[1:07:53] in the front. I mean, you know, I get
[1:07:55] your point. You know, that that is an
[1:07:56] avenue, but that really gets into is
[1:07:58] this incompatible? It's like, well, why
[1:07:59] should the duplex people be frosted?
[1:08:02] Like, we're afraid of the duplex people
[1:08:04] looking at us, but the single family
[1:08:05] people
[1:08:07] » Could look at us. Apartments sometimes
[1:08:09] that happens. Duplex to single family
[1:08:11] that those are compatible uses.
[1:08:14] » And any house north or south of it could
[1:08:16] be twotory staring down into the
[1:08:18] backyard of their next door neighbor as
[1:08:20] well.
[1:08:22] » So, it's not necessarily just what's to
[1:08:24] the east of it. It could be your next
[1:08:25] door neighbor builds a two-story house,
[1:08:27] » Right?
[1:08:29] I just wanted to hear people with
[1:08:31] planning commission background speak to
[1:08:33] the gentleman's concerns. Um I didn't
[1:08:36] want it to seem like we were just boot
[1:08:37] scooting right past that. So that's all.
[1:08:40] Thanks.
[1:08:43] » Okay. So we have a motion and a second
[1:08:45] for this item. Item I cast your votes.
[1:08:51] » I say one more thing.
[1:08:54] » We're voting now, sir. I'm sorry
[1:08:57] it's a little late.
[1:08:58] » Thank you. Passes unanimously.
[1:09:01] » I'll say it anyway. They have full
[1:09:03] parking [snorts] and street going around
[1:09:04] their perimeters of their apartments in
[1:09:06] between their apartments and adjoining
[1:09:08] facilities.
[1:09:10] » Okay.
[1:09:10] » So,
[1:09:11] » Thank you. Item J is an ordinance on
[1:09:13] final hearing. It was recommended for
[1:09:15] approval reszoning 2800 North Oklahoma
[1:09:17] Avenue from R4 to SPD 1842.
[1:09:21] Councilman Pennington, no one has signed
[1:09:22] to speak.
[1:09:25] Thank you, mayor. Um, this is just
[1:09:27] taking some R4 zoning and moving it into
[1:09:30] industrial that's more compatible with
[1:09:32] the immediate surrounding area. So, I'm
[1:09:34] going to move approval.
[1:09:41] We have a motion, a second. Cast your
[1:09:42] votes.
[1:09:49] Passes unanimously. Item K is an
[1:09:51] ordinance on final hearing. It was
[1:09:52] recommended for approval. Reszoning 5902
[1:09:54] Eperly Drive from R1 to SPD 1844.
[1:09:59] Councilman Stone, no one has signed up
[1:10:01] to speak.
[1:10:02] » Thank you, Mayor. Um, this is basically
[1:10:04] a storage unit off of, uh, Southeast
[1:10:07] 59th over close to Eperly, uh,
[1:10:09] recommended by the city and the planning
[1:10:11] commission. So, I'll move for its
[1:10:12] approval.
[1:10:17] All right, we have a motion and a
[1:10:18] second. Cast your votes.
[1:10:27] passes unanimously. Item L is an
[1:10:30] ordinance on final hearing. It was
[1:10:31] recommended for approval establishing a
[1:10:32] special permit to operate use unit
[1:10:34] 83000.33
[1:10:36] drinking establishment in the I2 and DP
[1:10:40] uh overlay districts at 500 Southwestern
[1:10:44] Council. Woman Hammond is not here.
[1:10:48] Okay. Well, maybe we'll um table that
[1:10:50] for a moment. see if she returns. Uh,
[1:10:52] item M is an ordinance on final hearing
[1:10:54] recommended for approval closing a
[1:10:56] portion of a north south uh, utility
[1:10:58] easement on lot one in block seven of
[1:11:00] the lakes at Anacey phase one. Um,
[1:11:04] Councilman Stone Cipher,
[1:11:12] » No.
[1:11:12] » Okay. Um, I'd move for approval.
[1:11:20] Have a motion and a second. Cast your
[1:11:21] votes.
[1:11:28] Passes unanimously.
[1:11:31] All right. Um item 11N is an ordinance
[1:11:35] to be introduced. It's set for a final
[1:11:37] hearing on September 1st. Uh this
[1:11:39] relates to our zoning and planning code.
[1:11:42] Specifically, I think solar energy. I do
[1:11:45] believe we have a presentation. Go
[1:11:47] ahead. Tio Bowman with the
[1:11:49] sustainability office. Uh this adds
[1:11:52] definitions and use regulations,
[1:11:53] accessory use regulations for solar
[1:11:55] energy systems. Presently we don't have
[1:11:57] a definition and it requires applicants
[1:11:59] to seek a variance in design districts.
[1:12:01] So um UDC um DDC and planning commission
[1:12:05] all recommended unanimous unanimous
[1:12:07] approval. Um and so I'll happy to answer
[1:12:09] any questions.
[1:12:14] » Seeing no questions. Thank you, Tio. I
[1:12:16] think we could probably proceed with
[1:12:18] introduction
[1:12:20] if there's a motion
[1:12:24] with a motion and a second. Cast your
[1:12:27] votes.
[1:12:43] Passes unanimously. Okay, we're going to
[1:12:45] back up now to item L. This was the uh
[1:12:48] previously described ordinance on final
[1:12:51] hearing in W six. And I understand
[1:12:53] Councilman Cooper will present this.
[1:12:55] » Yeah. Is the applicant present for that?
[1:12:57] [clears throat]
[1:12:58] » Getting those steps in. We don't do that
[1:13:00] enough.
[1:13:02] » That's what I hear from data.
[1:13:09] » Good morning. David Box, 525 Northwest
[1:13:11] 11th Street. uh here on behalf of the
[1:13:13] applicant. This is to allow for the use
[1:13:15] unit necessary for uh a bar as well as
[1:13:17] the u uh necessary provisions for the
[1:13:20] outdoor um food truck. No protest
[1:13:24] planning commission recommended
[1:13:25] approval.
[1:13:27] Let me go back to that previous
[1:13:30] Oh, cool. Okay. Well, I've been asked to
[1:13:33] move this forward and I shall
[1:13:52] Motion in a second. Cast your votes.
[1:13:58] » Pass unanimously.
[1:14:00] All right. Back into order, which brings
[1:14:03] us to item O. O1 is a public hearing
[1:14:05] regarding the dilapidated structure here
[1:14:07] listed. Amy, has anyone signed up to
[1:14:09] speak?
[1:14:09] » No, they haven't.
[1:14:10] » Not. So, we will advance to the
[1:14:12] resolution at O2 declaring that the
[1:14:14] structure is dilapidated.
[1:14:18] » I have a motion and a second. Cast your
[1:14:19] votes.
[1:14:30] Passes unanimously. Item 11 P1 is the
[1:14:33] public hearing regarding the unsecured
[1:14:34] structures here listed except for those
[1:14:36] previously struck. Jamie, has anyone
[1:14:37] signed up to speak?
[1:14:37] » No, they haven't.
[1:14:38] » They have not. So, we'll advance to the
[1:14:40] resolution found at P2 declaring
[1:14:41] structures are unsecured.
[1:14:45] » We have motion and a second. Cast your
[1:14:47] votes.
[1:14:53] » Passes unanimously. Q1 is the public
[1:14:55] hearing regarding the abandoned building
[1:14:56] here listed. Uh Amy, has anyone time to
[1:14:58] speak?
[1:14:59] » No, they haven't.
[1:14:59] » They have not. So, we'll advance to the
[1:15:00] resolution at Q2 declaring that the
[1:15:02] building is abandoned.
[1:15:10] A motion, a second. Cast your votes.
[1:15:22] Counciloman Avers, if you Thanks.
[1:15:29] Passes unanimously.
[1:15:32] All right. Uh 11R is a joint resolution
[1:15:36] with the Oklahoma City Economic
[1:15:37] Development Trust uh approving the
[1:15:39] allocation of geo limited tax bond
[1:15:41] proceeds in an amount not to exceed $3
[1:15:44] million for the Shane affordable housing
[1:15:48] project near Hefner and county line. And
[1:15:51] uh we have a presentation.
[1:15:52] » Yes. Joanna Mcbaden, our economic
[1:15:54] development manager, will introduce this
[1:15:56] item.
[1:15:56] » Yeah. Hi. Uh Joanna Mcpaden, finance
[1:15:58] department. Um, I just wanted to do a
[1:16:00] quick introduction on both of these next
[1:16:01] two items. This will be the first
[1:16:03] allocations of the new affordable
[1:16:06] housing bond money. Um, they're both
[1:16:09] structured as a payback loan rather than
[1:16:11] the forgivable loan that you guys have
[1:16:12] seen in the past. Um, they'll be paid
[1:16:15] back after their tax credit funding
[1:16:16] period. Kathy Okconor is going to
[1:16:18] present on both and give you a
[1:16:20] description of the projects. So, let us
[1:16:21] know if you have questions.
[1:16:28] Thank you. I'm Kathy O' Conor with the
[1:16:30] Coalign Group and I'm here on behalf of
[1:16:33] the Dominium Development Group today to
[1:16:35] talk to you about the Shane affordable
[1:16:37] housing project. Um this project is go
[1:16:40] on to the next slide. Um just a little
[1:16:43] bit about the developer. Dominium is um
[1:16:46] got a few projects going here in the
[1:16:48] state and in Oklahoma City. They have
[1:16:50] over 50 years of experience in
[1:16:52] developing, owning, and managing
[1:16:54] affordable housing projects nationwide.
[1:16:57] They have over 40,000 apartment homes in
[1:17:00] 20 plus community, 200 220 communities
[1:17:04] across the state. They are long-term
[1:17:06] owners. They hold most of their projects
[1:17:08] for 20 to 30 years. And they are a
[1:17:11] vertically integrated company. That
[1:17:13] means that they have the construction,
[1:17:15] the architecture, property management,
[1:17:18] compliance, and asset management all in
[1:17:20] house in their company.
[1:17:22] The project that we're talking about
[1:17:24] today is the Shane. It's located at um
[1:17:26] West Hefner Road and County Line Road um
[1:17:30] along Northwest Highway. It's about 412.
[1:17:34] It is 412 units that include 14
[1:17:38] apartment buildings and 88 town homes.
[1:17:41] they have applied and have qualified for
[1:17:44] the 4% low-income housing tax credit.
[1:17:46] So, we will be leveraging those tax
[1:17:48] credits with the city's um affordable
[1:17:51] housing loan fund.
[1:17:53] Go ahead. This is a site plan for the
[1:17:56] project. You can see the layout of the
[1:17:58] various units and the town homes.
[1:18:02] Again, the location. Um, one of the
[1:18:04] things that's important in a tax credit
[1:18:06] application is you point out what
[1:18:07] amenities are near your project. And
[1:18:09] this one is in the Piedmont school
[1:18:11] district. It's nearby to shopping parks,
[1:18:14] Lake Hefner, good highway access, and
[1:18:17] the and the patients ladding library.
[1:18:22] This is a breakdown of the units. Um you
[1:18:24] can see that it's a variety of two,
[1:18:26] three, and four bedrooms. Um and the
[1:18:29] average rents range from about $1,200 a
[1:18:32] month to four to little bit under $1,600
[1:18:36] a month for the fourbedroom units.
[1:18:38] Again,
[1:18:41] a breakdown of our budget. Um, the total
[1:18:43] budget for the project is is a little
[1:18:45] bit over $156 million.
[1:18:48] Um, that comes out to a per unit cost,
[1:18:52] which is kind of amazing, of $379,000
[1:18:55] a unit. But these projects um typically
[1:18:58] have some um soft costs and things that
[1:19:01] are not commonly found in regular um
[1:19:04] apartment projects.
[1:19:06] Our
[1:19:08] affordable housing request is a $2
[1:19:10] million uh loan in the first trunch that
[1:19:13] would have an 8% interest rate and then
[1:19:15] the second loan I mean a 0% interest
[1:19:18] rate and then the second trunch would be
[1:19:19] a $1 million loan with an 8% interest
[1:19:22] rate. Both of these would be uh
[1:19:25] co-terminus with the affordable housing
[1:19:29] compli tax credit compliance period
[1:19:31] which means that it'll be about 18 years
[1:19:34] and repaid at the time of sale or
[1:19:37] refinance of the project. So with a
[1:19:38] affordable housing um low-income housing
[1:19:41] tax credits, you have a 15-year
[1:19:43] compliance period, but that doesn't
[1:19:45] start until the units are constructed
[1:19:48] and leased up. So it usually is around
[1:19:51] 18 years. um that we're looking at to
[1:19:54] pay these loans back.
[1:19:56] » And Kathy, does that for the 18 years,
[1:19:59] is that how long you have to the owners
[1:20:01] have to maintain that affordability? And
[1:20:03] so after that, they're no longer
[1:20:04] required to do it.
[1:20:06] » And and typically what they do is they
[1:20:08] refinance with another low-inccome
[1:20:10] housing tax credit
[1:20:12] allocation and extend the affordability.
[1:20:16] Most of these units will be affordable
[1:20:17] for 30 years. Gotcha.
[1:20:23] I think Kathy, so is the um is the term
[1:20:27] loan is that whenever it's paid back in
[1:20:29] full or is it a lump sum in 18 years?
[1:20:32] » There are interest payments that are
[1:20:34] made during the term of the loan on the
[1:20:37] 8% interest rate trunch of it. Um but
[1:20:41] the the principal and any remaining
[1:20:44] interest would be paid at the at the end
[1:20:46] of the term. Well, I like I like the
[1:20:48] approach that's being taken with this
[1:20:50] administration so that it can really
[1:20:51] reinvest and create essentially a
[1:20:53] cycling fund. Is that the intent?
[1:20:55] » Yeah. Yes. I think that's the city's
[1:20:56] intent.
[1:20:57] » Yes.
[1:21:00] » Um,
[1:21:01] » Any other questions?
[1:21:02] » I don't
[1:21:04] Well, I guess I could make it as a
[1:21:06] question. Can you help me understand
[1:21:09] this location? Like why the developer
[1:21:11] chose Heapner and County Line? Well,
[1:21:14] because it's in a it's a good location
[1:21:17] for schools. It's in a very good school
[1:21:19] district. Um the property was already
[1:21:21] zoned multif family um and on the market
[1:21:24] for purchase. So, I think that that had
[1:21:27] a lot to do with how they selected it.
[1:21:29] And um JT Martin is here with the
[1:21:33] developer. He may be able to help me
[1:21:34] with this, but I believe it's also in
[1:21:35] what's called a QCT. So, it's in a
[1:21:37] qualified census track for the program.
[1:21:40] Um, so it it scores better when you go
[1:21:43] through OFA for the tax credit process.
[1:21:47] » I'm happy to provide some additional
[1:21:48] context there and it's a a good
[1:21:49] question, something I appreciate when
[1:21:51] people ask. Um, my name is JT Marty. I
[1:21:53] work with Dominium. Um, we're multif
[1:21:55] family developer based out of Dallas and
[1:21:57] have a couple other projects going on in
[1:21:58] Oklahoma City. So, it's somewhere we're
[1:21:59] really invested in and really appreciate
[1:22:01] coming up too. Um, in regards to your
[1:22:03] question, I think that there's a couple
[1:22:05] pieces. You know, Kathy mentioned first
[1:22:06] how the project was zoned for multif
[1:22:08] family. Um, which is kind of the first
[1:22:10] thing, you know, it's a project that we
[1:22:12] can get done, but from a demographic
[1:22:13] standpoint, Dominium, um, we've been
[1:22:15] around for 50 years and we're really
[1:22:17] concerned about the longevity of our
[1:22:18] assets. And so, a lot of developers will
[1:22:21] typically develop, especially in the
[1:22:23] affordable housing space, develop
[1:22:24] somewhere where they can make a bunch of
[1:22:26] money of a developer fee and then kind
[1:22:27] of just walk off and not really like
[1:22:30] keep up with the the asset over time. um
[1:22:33] with a lot of deferred maintenance and
[1:22:34] just kind of some of the problems that
[1:22:36] come to your mind when you hear the word
[1:22:37] affordable housing. And something about
[1:22:39] Dominion that's a little unique is we
[1:22:41] like to develop in communities that
[1:22:42] otherwise our residents wouldn't be able
[1:22:44] to afford to live in. And so from our
[1:22:46] research um in this area, our rent would
[1:22:49] save the residents about $300 a month.
[1:22:51] Um and so there's not really other
[1:22:53] options to live in this side of town in
[1:22:55] the Pedmont school district in these
[1:22:57] larger town homes that we're building on
[1:22:58] part of the site um anywhere in town.
[1:23:00] And then also just the connectivity to
[1:23:02] the interstate, the ability to get
[1:23:04] through the whole metro pretty quickly
[1:23:06] is important to us. Like 400 units is a
[1:23:08] lot of apartments that we're all aware
[1:23:11] of. And so the ability to be able to,
[1:23:13] you know, get down to the southwest
[1:23:14] corner into the industrial pocket, but
[1:23:16] also, you know, traverse the metro
[1:23:18] pretty easily is another selling point.
[1:23:20] The the main summary is just that the
[1:23:21] demographics in this area really strong.
[1:23:23] There's a lot of single family homes
[1:23:24] being developed to our north. Um there's
[1:23:26] a new single family home community to
[1:23:28] our east that just developed. So it's
[1:23:29] just a a growing area. and there's not a
[1:23:31] lot of land that's undeveloped within
[1:23:33] the the loop and so it's just something
[1:23:35] we're excited about.
[1:23:38] » Um, thank you for the context from both
[1:23:42] of you. So,
[1:23:45] I think this is more for the council uh
[1:23:49] and maybe for the developer. I'm not
[1:23:51] sure.
[1:23:52] It's as you it sounds like you know what
[1:23:54] you're talking about. I know Kathy
[1:23:56] absolutely does. Uh my concern about
[1:23:59] this location is and I'll I'll play it
[1:24:03] out. I want to see how this goes. But my
[1:24:06] concern and it's what you just talked
[1:24:08] about with the highway and 400 of these
[1:24:11] units.
[1:24:14] My one of my best friends just bought a
[1:24:16] car. Hadn't had one in year. I mean had
[1:24:18] one but you know it was a very old one
[1:24:20] and spent
[1:24:22] over $25,000 to buy that car. That's the
[1:24:25] first thing. We also know annually it's
[1:24:28] about $12,000 maintenance and gas.
[1:24:32] When you're talking about the median
[1:24:34] income for Oklahoma City residents being
[1:24:37] $37,000 a year, that's why we need the
[1:24:41] affordable housing, right? And I
[1:24:43] appreciate the 60% of AMI. I think
[1:24:46] that's great, right? Because we're going
[1:24:48] to be able to get to that demographic.
[1:24:50] But when we build that affordable
[1:24:52] housing
[1:24:54] outside of a city's public
[1:24:57] transportation system, we are putting on
[1:25:02] to that individual or family
[1:25:05] transportation cost annually. I just
[1:25:09] last week oil change, coolant flush,
[1:25:12] cabin air filter, $350
[1:25:15] just poof gone. And that's just for
[1:25:17] that. That's not the Iran war gas
[1:25:20] prices. I'm guessing the war will end at
[1:25:22] some point, but even before the war,
[1:25:26] these transportation data costs are what
[1:25:29] they are. They are what they are. And
[1:25:32] that is my concern about this location.
[1:25:34] So again, I'm willing to hear like,
[1:25:37] okay, let's do this because the school
[1:25:40] district I I think you make a arguably
[1:25:42] persuasive case there. But there are in
[1:25:45] fact other parts of Oklahoma City,
[1:25:48] particularly in the urban core from 240
[1:25:52] to 35 to 44 to Memorial. And quite
[1:25:56] frankly, I'd come down to expressway um
[1:25:58] where we have a public transportation
[1:26:01] system, where we have the ability to do
[1:26:03] something called transit oriented
[1:26:04] development. That is not my phrase. That
[1:26:08] is something I have learned serving on
[1:26:10] the central Oklahoma Transportation and
[1:26:12] Parking Authority since 2015. And if we
[1:26:16] are really serious about infill,
[1:26:19] affordable housing, mixeduse
[1:26:21] developments, and transportationoriented
[1:26:23] development, we we've got to start
[1:26:25] thinking a little bit more cleverly
[1:26:27] about where we are. Um, not just
[1:26:29] cleverly, intentionally about these
[1:26:31] affordable housing projects. I I this is
[1:26:36] I'm going to say yes, but I'm not going
[1:26:38] to keep saying yes. if we keep doing
[1:26:40] this, if we keep sprawling ourselves out
[1:26:43] with affordable housing because it it
[1:26:46] and I'm seeing some people not
[1:26:48] understanding what I'm saying, so I
[1:26:49] don't know when the last time it was you
[1:26:50] made $37,000 a year. Um,
[1:26:55] we cannot keep building
[1:26:59] housing, especially quote affordable
[1:27:01] housing, away from public
[1:27:03] transportation. We can't do it. So, I'm
[1:27:07] just and and and let me go this far. If
[1:27:11] someone thinks I'm wrong from this
[1:27:13] horseshoe,
[1:27:15] bring the data in the research, bring
[1:27:17] it. Bring it. Show this council that
[1:27:20] what I am saying is incorrect. Show us
[1:27:23] because I promise you, I could bring
[1:27:25] Jason Fairbrush up here, uh Jesse Rush,
[1:27:29] I could bring the RTA board. Uh
[1:27:33] we're making some great investments in
[1:27:35] public transit and affordable housing
[1:27:36] and I would encourage you as a developer
[1:27:38] to help us in that regard. Um Kathy, you
[1:27:43] too. Um and council, like I said, if
[1:27:45] you're having a problem with what I am
[1:27:46] saying, then bring me the counter data.
[1:27:49] So, and I I need for Bradley to be able
[1:27:52] to have this stuff out there for the
[1:27:53] reasons you said that there are too many
[1:27:55] families who can't afford to move out
[1:27:57] there, but
[1:28:01] Okay.
[1:28:01] » On that, I'll take that as a segue. Um,
[1:28:03] I don't think that you're wrong in what
[1:28:05] you're saying, but I think that the
[1:28:06] definition for who qualifies for
[1:28:08] affordable housing has expanded a lot,
[1:28:10] especially in the last 12 to 18 months.
[1:28:13] So, I do think something like this is
[1:28:16] needed in our in our in my ward. Um, I
[1:28:19] have to agree with him wholeheartedly
[1:28:21] when it comes to the fact that we don't
[1:28:22] have public transportation in that area.
[1:28:24] Um I want to say public transportation
[1:28:26] stops about a mile and a half from this
[1:28:29] this corner uh council north as
[1:28:30] expressway. So that's something that
[1:28:33] we'll have to take up with our our
[1:28:35] transit on that. Um couple questions
[1:28:37] that I do have for you though is what is
[1:28:39] your um what's going to keep you from
[1:28:41] selling this and it becoming not
[1:28:43] affordable housing?
[1:28:44] » Yeah, it's a a good question um and
[1:28:45] something that was mentioned earlier. So
[1:28:47] the project will actually be restricted
[1:28:49] to to these rent levels for 30 years.
[1:28:51] Um, Dominium, you know, as we mentioned
[1:28:52] earlier, we've been in the business for
[1:28:53] 50 years. We've been developing new
[1:28:55] construction uh lit communities for
[1:28:58] since probably 2010, and we've never
[1:28:59] sold one of them before. Um, so just
[1:29:02] through our track record, we don't
[1:29:04] historically sell these. And Oklahoma
[1:29:06] stays, it's not just another project to
[1:29:09] us. Like this is, you know, what I think
[1:29:10] about all day and somewhere that I'm
[1:29:12] really excited to be invested in. Um, I
[1:29:14] guess the simplest way to answer your
[1:29:16] question is that we're restricted to do
[1:29:18] this for 30 years. But the I guess more
[1:29:20] nuanced answer is that Dominium does
[1:29:21] this across the country and has done
[1:29:23] this for the last 15 or 20 years not
[1:29:25] selling any of these projects.
[1:29:26] » So when you say you're restricted from
[1:29:28] doing this for 30 years if I read the
[1:29:30] slide correctly I mean I understand what
[1:29:33] the the loans the the agreements and
[1:29:36] what such but what I read I thought it
[1:29:38] said if you were to sell you would have
[1:29:40] to be you would have to pay everything
[1:29:42] back in one lump sum at that point. But
[1:29:43] it doesn't say anything about the fact
[1:29:45] that the person purchasing it would have
[1:29:47] to maintain affordable housing.
[1:29:49] » So, we signed a land use restriction
[1:29:51] agreement with the Oklahoma Housing
[1:29:52] Finance.
[1:29:53] » Are we about to explode?
[1:29:57] » Something's about to happen. Sorry to
[1:29:58] interrupt you.
[1:29:59] » No worries.
[1:30:01] » Okay.
[1:30:01] » Uh, we signed a land use restriction
[1:30:03] agreement with the Oklahoma Housing
[1:30:04] Finance Agency where it restricts the
[1:30:06] project to this rent level for 30 years
[1:30:08] when we close on our financing. And so
[1:30:10] that stays in place and is uh is has
[1:30:14] priority over our loan and has you know
[1:30:16] priority to stay in the on the land.
[1:30:19] It's like connected to the land for 30
[1:30:20] years.
[1:30:20] » So even if it's paid off that that
[1:30:22] restriction is tied to the land for 30
[1:30:24] years. Correct.
[1:30:25] » So whoever buys it understands that
[1:30:27] » And is going to be held to those
[1:30:29] standards. What Kathy was saying earlier
[1:30:31] is what will likely happen after 15
[1:30:33] years is Dominium will refinance or
[1:30:35] we'll have some sort of value event
[1:30:36] internally and then we will rehab the
[1:30:38] property and extend our our we'll extend
[1:30:40] the affordability again for another 30
[1:30:42] years at that point. So,
[1:30:44] » Okay, that that helps me on this one.
[1:30:46] Just I want to also make sure that we we
[1:30:47] have that kind of put out in layman's
[1:30:49] terms. Um the other question I have for
[1:30:52] you is what is your your time frame of
[1:30:54] development? And I'm I'm going to
[1:30:56] explain this to you. And the reason I'm
[1:30:57] asking this is I have a lot of pressure
[1:31:00] from the Piedmont School District to not
[1:31:03] develop. They haven't approved a bond in
[1:31:06] almost two years now. They haven't been
[1:31:07] able to build buildings. They can't even
[1:31:09] take care of their roads. They're having
[1:31:10] a lot of issues uh with different
[1:31:12] aspects. So the more we build and put
[1:31:15] kids in their school, the more problems
[1:31:17] they continue to have, which trickles
[1:31:19] down to problems with children learning
[1:31:21] development, yada yada yada. So I I just
[1:31:24] need to see what our kind of our time
[1:31:25] frame is for this.
[1:31:26] » Yes, we would plan to start construction
[1:31:28] um this year in probably the end of
[1:31:30] October and from there it would take us
[1:31:32] about 30 months to complete the entire
[1:31:34] project which would kind of be turned
[1:31:36] over in phases. And so we'd probably
[1:31:37] expect the first third of the project to
[1:31:39] be done about 20 months after that. So
[1:31:42] I'd say and and then another section
[1:31:44] probably 26 months after the start and
[1:31:47] then 30 months. pretty much we'll start
[1:31:49] construction here in the end of this
[1:31:50] year and then we will be completely
[1:31:52] delivered in the middle of 2029.
[1:31:56] » Okay. So three years you'll be you'll
[1:32:00] have 400 and some units completed.
[1:32:02] » Correct.
[1:32:05] » Okay. Thank you very much. Relatedly,
[1:32:07] you know, a school district that just
[1:32:09] passed the bond and is doing all kinds
[1:32:11] of improvement is Oklahoma City public
[1:32:13] schools that they're building flex
[1:32:15] spaces for career tech training on
[1:32:17] campus. So, I'd love to see you back
[1:32:19] here. I like it sounds like your mind
[1:32:21] and your heart are heading in some
[1:32:23] places where I think there's some good
[1:32:24] collaboration in the future. But,
[1:32:27] » I appreciate your questions and I as
[1:32:29] someone who thinks about affordable
[1:32:30] housing all day, I do not disagree with
[1:32:31] anything you said with the the trans.
[1:32:34] » I appreciate you bringing it up.
[1:32:36] encouragement. Thank you.
[1:32:37] » Sadly, in reality, W four, W five, most
[1:32:41] of W 8, a lot of W 7 are way underserved
[1:32:44] by public transit.
[1:32:46] » So, you're you're limiting where
[1:32:49] affordable housing can be built based on
[1:32:51] public transit. I mean, and I know
[1:32:53] you're licking your lips there.
[1:32:55] » Oh, I am.
[1:32:56] » But but it it's the real reality of it.
[1:32:59] Until public transit gets better, we
[1:33:01] can't styy affordable housing being
[1:33:04] built other places. Just forcing a
[1:33:06] public transit hand.
[1:33:12] » Okay.
[1:33:12] » No, hang on. No. No. No. No. [music]
[1:33:18] [laughter]
[1:33:19] » It's called regulating one's emotions
[1:33:21] and not just responding.
[1:33:26] » Well, you
[1:33:27] » Okay. Sorry. Go ahead. This is
[1:33:29] important. This This is something that
[1:33:30] voters just approved in October, this
[1:33:32] $50 million, for the first time in our
[1:33:35] history, investment in affordable
[1:33:36] housing. And the council member is not
[1:33:38] wrong.
[1:33:41] We have for all of these years, we did
[1:33:43] not even have Sunday bus service, as you
[1:33:45] all recall, until 2018. All of these
[1:33:48] decades, the buses did not run on days
[1:33:50] that people go to places of worship when
[1:33:51] they go to grocery stores to see their
[1:33:53] families, etc., etc., etc.
[1:33:56] We did not prioritize public uh
[1:33:59] transportation and that is why word four
[1:34:01] and word seven and word five and word
[1:34:03] eight are not served by public
[1:34:04] transportation is not by my hand. I
[1:34:06] would have and w one I would have done
[1:34:08] it a million times over and I have
[1:34:10] advocated for it a million times over.
[1:34:12] So this is not an us versus them thing.
[1:34:14] I would have done it. I would do it
[1:34:15] right now. I would encourage us to be
[1:34:18] expanding public transportation out
[1:34:19] there. That's why I'm so supportive of
[1:34:21] our one transit election which is
[1:34:23] actually going to allow us not just to
[1:34:25] do commuter rail from Norman to Edmund
[1:34:28] to OKC light rail and councilwoman's
[1:34:30] ward to the airport to county line not
[1:34:33] just BRT to the airport but actually to
[1:34:36] increase our public transportation
[1:34:38] budget in the city of Oklahoma City so
[1:34:40] that buses actually run by the industry
[1:34:42] standard of every 15 minutes instead of
[1:34:44] the 30 minutes that they do right now.
[1:34:46] If you miss the bus right now, that is
[1:34:48] your job.
[1:34:50] You have to wait 30 more minutes before
[1:34:52] you get there. So, no, you're not wrong,
[1:34:54] Councilman. But we're
[1:34:56] what I guess I am advocating
[1:34:59] is that as we move toward one transit,
[1:35:03] as we move toward those investments, we
[1:35:06] cannot put the cart before the horse and
[1:35:08] start building the affordable housing
[1:35:10] out in the parts of the city where that
[1:35:14] public transportation option doesn't
[1:35:16] exist for our people. If a person lives
[1:35:20] and I have friends in all of your words,
[1:35:22] all of your words I know people and I
[1:35:24] also know people who either have just
[1:35:26] one car and they are a family or they
[1:35:28] have no car and they cannot if we are
[1:35:31] landlocking them is what I am saying. We
[1:35:33] are landlocking them when we build this
[1:35:35] housing in the part of town that you
[1:35:37] have just described when we don't have
[1:35:39] that public transportation system for
[1:35:41] them. Meanwhile, all across parts of
[1:35:44] each of our respective ws, part of your
[1:35:47] word, part of that councilman's word,
[1:35:49] part of this council part, every one of
[1:35:50] the words you just named, um there is
[1:35:53] public transportation options and info
[1:35:55] option development all around each one
[1:35:57] of those words. We should be
[1:35:58] prioritizing this $50 million affordable
[1:36:01] housing funding where the transit exists
[1:36:03] in each one of our respective WS. This
[1:36:05] is not a word two prioritizing thing
[1:36:07] that I'm doing. I'm telling you, each
[1:36:09] one of our words, Councilwoman and I
[1:36:11] share Northwest 23rd Street together, we
[1:36:13] share it. We could be doing this sort of
[1:36:15] investment around there, MacArthur,
[1:36:18] Northeast 10th Street, you name it. And
[1:36:20] I love Bradley's question, excuse me,
[1:36:23] Councilman Councilman's question about
[1:36:26] the longevity of the affordable housing
[1:36:27] because when I think about Northeast
[1:36:29] 10th Street, sorry, Northwest 10th
[1:36:31] Street, and I think about parts of the
[1:36:33] city, 122nd and Penn, which used to be
[1:36:35] part of WI, there were apartments, there
[1:36:38] were developers who are standing right
[1:36:39] where you're standing right now who pro
[1:36:43] made a similar pitch to that council 30
[1:36:45] years ago when they built those houses
[1:36:47] or excuse me, those
[1:36:50] There is no maintenance in those
[1:36:52] apartments today. There is no
[1:36:54] maintaining of affordability. There is
[1:36:57] no maintaining of the conditions of
[1:36:59] those apartments. So, councilman asked
[1:37:00] the exact right question to be asking.
[1:37:03] And that is actually something I would
[1:37:04] turn to city manager Freeman in this
[1:37:06] moment and to planning and start asking
[1:37:07] us to think about what happens at the
[1:37:09] end of that 30 years. Now all of us will
[1:37:12] be heading into retirement of course but
[1:37:15] our people will linger and we really do
[1:37:17] need to think about what are some
[1:37:19] parameters we can be I mean thinking
[1:37:20] outside the box what have other cities
[1:37:22] done. We cannot allow this development
[1:37:25] 30 years from now to become what Dime
[1:37:27] Block has become.
[1:37:30] We cannot do that. We have got to be
[1:37:32] more intentional about this. So I think
[1:37:34] you're asking and saying the exact right
[1:37:36] things. Please do not misunderstand me
[1:37:37] of saying I want all of this in W two
[1:37:39] because I could point to each one of our
[1:37:41] words and see where the public
[1:37:43] transportation
[1:37:45] uh development opportunities are. I just
[1:37:48] want to be very clear about that. This
[1:37:49] is not a word to versus everybody else.
[1:37:51] I see it. I'm asking us to prioritize
[1:37:54] where the transportation is to do the
[1:37:56] affordable housing there as we improve
[1:37:59] our public transportation system. I hope
[1:38:01] that makes sense. If it does not, let me
[1:38:03] know. By the way, I have to calm down in
[1:38:06] these moments because I get so
[1:38:07] passionate, so excited, and I don't ever
[1:38:09] want to come across as um combative. So,
[1:38:12] please, council members, do not ever
[1:38:14] think that's what's happening. I love
[1:38:15] this sort of engagement. I love back and
[1:38:18] forth. I live for it. So, don't don't
[1:38:22] take this don't take this as like trying
[1:38:24] to prove a point. This is truly like a
[1:38:25] iron sharpens iron moment. So, and if I
[1:38:28] ever come across differently, you know,
[1:38:32] let me know. But just know that that's
[1:38:34] it's just a spirited thing. And again,
[1:38:36] both of you have brought something
[1:38:37] meaningful here for the reasons that you
[1:38:39] have said and the council person has
[1:38:41] said. I'm just trying to like push us a
[1:38:43] little bit further here toward that
[1:38:46] affordability.
[1:38:50] » Thank you.
[1:38:50] » I think what you're saying is um
[1:38:52] strategic prioritization
[1:38:54] » Of economic incentives tied to
[1:38:56] affordable housing. And so are is there
[1:38:58] a framework within the alliance or
[1:39:01] within this uh economic development
[1:39:03] trust that is prioritizing or
[1:39:06] incentivizing or rankordering uh
[1:39:08] applications based on what makes the
[1:39:10] most sense for our city or is it really
[1:39:12] just a on an application by application
[1:39:14] basis?
[1:39:15] » A good point question. I mean we we we
[1:39:18] do have that in as a priority but it's
[1:39:21] not a limiting factor you know and
[1:39:24] having an opportunity with this to get f
[1:39:26] it's that are this type of quality it's
[1:39:29] so it's a balance it's something we
[1:39:30] consider but it's not the final decision
[1:39:34] but I do think it's one that we got to
[1:39:35] be sensitive to of like how much of the
[1:39:38] affordable since we're limited on how
[1:39:40] much we have would be outside of that
[1:39:43] public transportation corridor I think
[1:39:44] we got to keep that in mind Joan and
[1:39:46] have just been communicating on this and
[1:39:48] so it's it's definitely something that's
[1:39:50] front of mind for us that we know we
[1:39:51] need to encourage that direction.
[1:39:54] » I'll have more to say about the I don't
[1:39:56] want to keep the developer and Kathy. So
[1:40:01] » Appreciate it.
[1:40:03] » We have a resident who signed up to
[1:40:04] speak on this item. Steve Hunt.
[1:40:12] » I'm gonna be real brief because I
[1:40:14] misread what I saw on here. I think I
[1:40:16] saw the uh e Oklahoma City Economic
[1:40:19] Development Trust on there and
[1:40:21] remembering the words of Oscar Wild
[1:40:23] about the people who caused the need for
[1:40:25] things and then give us the solutions.
[1:40:28] So, it kind of triggered me a little bit
[1:40:29] and then I saw Carella was here so it
[1:40:31] kind of All right.
[1:40:37] » All right. That concludes citizens who
[1:40:39] signed up to speak for this item. Uh we
[1:40:41] could take a motion in a second on item
[1:40:43] R, this joint resolution with the
[1:40:45] Economic Development Trust.
[1:41:02] » All right. Well, we have a motion in a
[1:41:04] second. Cast your votes if you have the
[1:41:06] ability. I would like to vote I.
[1:41:13] Passes unanimously. All right. Item S is
[1:41:16] a joint resolution with the Oklahoma
[1:41:18] City Economic Development Trust
[1:41:19] approving the allocation of bond
[1:41:21] proceeds in an amount not to exceed $2
[1:41:23] million for the Villas at Stone Lake
[1:41:27] affordable housing project. It's 7404
[1:41:29] Larwood Lane. And we have a
[1:41:32] presentation.
[1:41:32] » Yes. Kathy Okconor is going to present
[1:41:34] this project as well.
[1:41:36] Thank you. Um, this project is called
[1:41:38] the Villas at Stone Lake and it is
[1:41:40] located at 7404 Larwood Lane. Um, this
[1:41:43] project is a little bit different than
[1:41:44] the last one we just talked about. This
[1:41:46] is an existing um, apartment complex
[1:41:48] that is um, only about 40% occupied I
[1:41:53] believe at the time. Right now, um, it's
[1:41:55] 160 units um,
[1:41:59] » In 14 uh, residential buildings. Again,
[1:42:01] this project has uh qualified and has
[1:42:04] been allocated low-income housing tax
[1:42:06] credits through OFA. Um it is a a
[1:42:09] complete remodel of the facility. You
[1:42:12] can go ahead to the next one. Um
[1:42:15] this is the location of the project at
[1:42:17] about 63rd in MacArthur again in that
[1:42:20] Lerwood Lane area where there are quite
[1:42:22] a few apartment complexes and some of
[1:42:24] them are in need of rehabilitation like
[1:42:27] this one.
[1:42:29] Um again as I mentioned this is a
[1:42:30] complete renovation of the project.
[1:42:33] Everything from site improvements to the
[1:42:35] exterior the complete interior overhaul
[1:42:38] of every unit all the electrical
[1:42:40] plumbing um f you know fixtures
[1:42:43] everything in it. Um they you know all
[1:42:46] of LITC projects have to have ADA
[1:42:49] accessibility uh requirements. So those
[1:42:51] will also be added to the project.
[1:42:55] This is a breakdown of the units. Again,
[1:42:57] this this this is an existing apartment
[1:42:59] complex, so the unit sizes are a little
[1:43:01] bit different. These are one and
[1:43:03] twobedroom units um that the rents will
[1:43:06] range from about $833 a month up to
[1:43:10] around $1,200 a month for the two
[1:43:12] bedrooms.
[1:43:14] Uh project budget is about $28 million.
[1:43:18] Um again on the construction time period
[1:43:20] for this one, I think they plan to start
[1:43:22] later this year uh early next year on
[1:43:25] the rehab of this um project.
[1:43:30] Uh our request for this project is a $2
[1:43:33] million uh loan. Again, uh structured as
[1:43:37] uh repayment is deferred until year 18.
[1:43:41] Um and it helps to fill the remaining
[1:43:43] financing gap that uh the project has
[1:43:46] that is not filled by the permanent loan
[1:43:48] that the LITC equity and um like in the
[1:43:51] other project a deferred developer fee.
[1:43:56] And this is just a little bit about
[1:43:57] where the project is right now. As I
[1:43:59] mentioned, it is shovel ready. We've
[1:44:01] been awarded our tax credits. This
[1:44:03] affordable housing loan allocation will
[1:44:06] help us uh finalize our financing and
[1:44:08] get get to closing here in a couple
[1:44:10] months.
[1:44:13] That's about it. Be glad to take any
[1:44:15] questions on this one.
[1:44:17] » Is this going to have the same deed
[1:44:20] restriction on the land?
[1:44:21] » Yes, I believe it does. Yeah, I'm pretty
[1:44:23] sure all of OFA's projects have that
[1:44:25] deed restriction, that 30-year.
[1:44:28] » Okay.
[1:44:28] » So, you're really tied to that 30-year
[1:44:30] compliance. And what are we doing with
[1:44:32] the current residents?
[1:44:34] » Pardon me.
[1:44:34] » What are we going to do with the current
[1:44:35] current residents that are there?
[1:44:37] » They will be moved within the project.
[1:44:41] As units are rehabbed, they'll be moved
[1:44:43] into new units and then their unit will
[1:44:45] be rehabed.
[1:44:45] » So, we're not going to displace
[1:44:47] » Our plan is to not displace anybody.
[1:44:49] » Okay. Thank you.
[1:44:53] » And thank you. because I just did a uh
[1:44:57] transit.
[1:44:58] » You did a check
[1:44:59] » Look to what what it would be like to go
[1:45:01] from city hall to these apartments and
[1:45:02] there's, you know, right there within a
[1:45:05] couple like not even walking distance
[1:45:07] isn't even the right word for it. But so
[1:45:10] this is the sort of stuff because you
[1:45:12] would take the eight to the rapid. So
[1:45:13] no, I really like that. So thank you for
[1:45:15] thinking here.
[1:45:20] » All right, we can take a motion on item
[1:45:23] S.
[1:45:27] Motion and a second. Cast your votes.
[1:45:39] Passes unanimously.
[1:45:41] Thanks, Kathy. All right. Right. Item T
[1:45:43] is a joint resolution with the Oklahoma
[1:45:44] City Economic Development Trust
[1:45:45] certifying that project slate, a
[1:45:47] proposed slate of three app distributed
[1:45:49] digital productions, is an eligible
[1:45:50] project under the uh strategic
[1:45:53] investment programs film incentive
[1:45:54] program. This allocation would not
[1:45:56] exceed $57,138
[1:46:00] and we have a presentation.
[1:46:02] » Yes, Jill Simpson with the Oklahoma City
[1:46:04] Film Office.
[1:46:05] » Good morning, council members. Uh for
[1:46:07] the first time I'm bringing you a slate
[1:46:09] of projects and as a reminder for slates
[1:46:14] the requirements are different. So for
[1:46:16] an episodic single episode for a TV show
[1:46:19] is $100,000
[1:46:21] but when you have an aggregate of
[1:46:23] multiple episodes that meet 500,000 they
[1:46:25] qualify at the 10% level which this one
[1:46:28] does. Um, this is what I've called
[1:46:31] Project Slate, and it is three episodes
[1:46:34] of a faith-based
[1:46:36] uh vertical project, which is content
[1:46:39] created to go directly to your cell
[1:46:41] phone. And I've listed basically the
[1:46:45] descriptions, which you can read
[1:46:46] through. They're all centered around
[1:46:48] small communities. This one in at
[1:46:50] Christmas time, and they tell family
[1:46:53] oriented stories. Um, the people behind
[1:46:56] this are the company is Angel Verticals
[1:46:59] LLC, but the Oklahoma City partners are
[1:47:02] BRG Entertainment, which is Brent Ryan
[1:47:04] Green of the Green family here in
[1:47:06] Oklahoma City, and LD Entertainment,
[1:47:09] which is the Liddell Entertainment
[1:47:11] Group. 100% will be filmed in Oklahoma
[1:47:13] City. Uh, they're utilizing Oklahoma
[1:47:15] City facilities. 98% of the crew is
[1:47:18] Oklahoma City based and anticipated
[1:47:21] Oklahoma City expenditures total 571,
[1:47:25] 386, which is 65.4%
[1:47:29] of their budget.
[1:47:31] Again, this would qualify since it's
[1:47:32] above a half million dollars in
[1:47:34] expenditures, it will be the 10% level.
[1:47:37] Um, they're meeting the requirements of
[1:47:40] hiring 50% crew, which they'll have 98%.
[1:47:44] They're uh filming more than 50% in
[1:47:46] Oklahoma City. They're actually filming
[1:47:48] 100%.
[1:47:50] They will be hiring 71% of local vendors
[1:47:54] meeting the 50% requirement. They've
[1:47:56] been pre-qualified by the state of
[1:47:58] Oklahoma and they're using Filmmakers
[1:48:00] Ranch and possibly one set studio in
[1:48:02] downtown Oklahoma City. So, I'm
[1:48:04] recommending the full 10% which is
[1:48:06] 57,38.
[1:48:10] I want to add that they could be
[1:48:11] potentially bringing a lot more of these
[1:48:13] to Oklahoma City, which is great
[1:48:15] training for our crew. They're hiring 53
[1:48:18] people and over 21 days that equals
[1:48:22] 1,113
[1:48:23] work days, 98% resident crew. Qualifying
[1:48:28] labor income, 277,155.
[1:48:34] And just a snapshot, 100% filming days,
[1:48:37] 98% local crew, 71% of vendors.
[1:48:42] Total economic impact is 1.3 million for
[1:48:45] this project. Uh job supported direct
[1:48:48] and indirect are 70. Local labor income
[1:48:51] 533,468.
[1:48:54] So their qualifying expend expenditures
[1:48:57] of 571 386 break down to taxable
[1:49:00] expenditures goods and services of
[1:49:02] 113,522
[1:49:05] below the line crew salaries and pdium
[1:49:08] 23,721
[1:49:11] and above the above the line salary and
[1:49:13] pdium at 73,554
[1:49:16] which comes under the 25% cap. Any
[1:49:20] questions?
[1:49:24] » Can I just add a note to you guys? Sure.
[1:49:26] » Copperhead is here on the ground. They
[1:49:28] love it here. They are so happy. So,
[1:49:30] thank you guys for making it happen.
[1:49:33] » Thanks, Joe. All right, we can take a
[1:49:35] motion on item T.
[1:49:42] We have a motion and a second. Cast your
[1:49:44] votes.
[1:49:51] passes unanimously.
[1:49:54] All right. Item 11 U are claims
[1:49:57] recommended for denial. Uh we have items
[1:50:01] A and B and executive session is not
[1:50:03] requested.
[1:50:10] We have motion and a second.
[1:50:15] passes unanimously.
[1:50:17] Item V1 uh is a claim recommended for
[1:50:20] approval. Executive session is not
[1:50:22] requested.
[1:50:30] We have a motion in a second. Cast your
[1:50:33] votes.
[1:50:37] Passes unanimously. That concludes votes
[1:50:40] for the day. Uh we're now at item 12.
[1:50:42] Comments from council. Ward one. board
[1:50:44] two.
[1:50:45] » Yes. [clears throat] A few things. Uh
[1:50:48] first, city manager, or maybe it's for
[1:50:50] Amy, and it it doesn't have to be this
[1:50:53] meeting. Maybe it could be the next one,
[1:50:55] but something that's been on my mind for
[1:50:57] a long time, but then over the weekend
[1:50:58] really accelerated.
[1:51:00] It could be brief, but I would like for
[1:51:03] the public to hear a walkth through of
[1:51:08] not the agenda items, but the agenda
[1:51:10] categories like what is concurrence?
[1:51:13] What is consent? What is uh items for
[1:51:17] individual consideration? Like how what
[1:51:19] like I just don't think I know for a
[1:51:21] fact as someone who until I served on
[1:51:24] this body, I had no idea what each of
[1:51:26] those terms were. So for instance, not
[1:51:28] even just those items, but uh the
[1:51:31] municipal facilities authority uh or you
[1:51:35] know PPA, I just think it just a brief
[1:51:38] like this is what this is, this is why
[1:51:40] items go here, this is what this is,
[1:51:41] this is why items go here. And then
[1:51:43] that's something I can clip and I can
[1:51:45] put on social media and it can serve as
[1:51:47] a public education moment. And I've been
[1:51:50] thinking about that for a really long
[1:51:51] time. But I whoever needs to do that, um
[1:51:54] I think it would sound better coming
[1:51:56] from two figures of authority in the way
[1:51:59] that you all are than it would even from
[1:52:00] a council member.
[1:52:02] Um maybe next meeting would be a good
[1:52:04] time to do that. But um so thank you for
[1:52:07] that. And then a question before I have
[1:52:09] some comments. Uh, we had some council
[1:52:10] members who went on a trip recently to
[1:52:13] Salt Lake City and I was just curious
[1:52:14] how your trip went. Your trip went for
[1:52:16] the one tranted. How'd it go?
[1:52:18] » It was all right.
[1:52:19] » All right. [laughter]
[1:52:22] Um well on that note uh I with the
[1:52:27] affordable housing conversation earlier
[1:52:29] uh I had already planned to ask for this
[1:52:33] presentation but I think we would all
[1:52:35] benefit the council and the public for
[1:52:38] maybe a bit of a presentation on transit
[1:52:41] oriented development. I think that would
[1:52:43] go a long way to helping people
[1:52:45] understand
[1:52:48] why we need to be strategic about I
[1:52:51] loved your language earlier councilwoman
[1:52:53] just like being strategic about our
[1:52:54] investments where are opportunities in
[1:52:56] this city uh to do that sort of uh
[1:53:00] transit oriented investment whether it's
[1:53:02] the maps for southside bus rapid
[1:53:05] transits that are coming the northeast
[1:53:06] side bus rapid transits that are coming
[1:53:09] the current BRT on class and expressway
[1:53:12] All right. Uh, and then if voters, God
[1:53:14] help us, actually approve the one
[1:53:16] transit election next year, what the
[1:53:18] commuter rail line from Edund to Norman
[1:53:20] to OKC, what development could look like
[1:53:22] along that, what development could look
[1:53:24] like heading out to West OKC, what
[1:53:26] development could look like on Meridian
[1:53:29] Avenue where a light rail is proposed,
[1:53:30] what development could look like heading
[1:53:32] to the southeast part of our city out to
[1:53:34] Tinker could look like. Like I just
[1:53:36] really want us, this is such an
[1:53:37] incredible moment for not just Oklahoma
[1:53:40] City, but for Edmund and Norman. And I
[1:53:42] just really want us to be able to
[1:53:44] demonstrate to ourselves and our
[1:53:45] residents a sense of intentionality and
[1:53:47] vision and vision. Um, so I'd really
[1:53:51] like for uh a presentation and examples
[1:53:54] like I want people to see what multi- uh
[1:53:57] use developments do and could look like.
[1:54:01] uh what uh mixeduse developments, what
[1:54:05] mixed income developments could look
[1:54:06] like as opposed to what we did 30 and 60
[1:54:09] years ago where we just said here all
[1:54:11] you poor people, you go live in these
[1:54:12] apartments over here and the stigma that
[1:54:14] lingers with us because of those
[1:54:16] decisions, right? What happens when you
[1:54:18] have um subsidized units alongside
[1:54:21] market rate units? So, I just I I would
[1:54:23] really like to see that. I think that
[1:54:24] would help all of us think more
[1:54:26] strategically about where we need to be
[1:54:28] advocating in each of our respective
[1:54:30] wards for that sort of development.
[1:54:33] Um, relatedly, just a few other items. I
[1:54:37] would also appreciate an update on the
[1:54:39] maps for trees project. Uh, this is on
[1:54:43] my mind because if you have dared to
[1:54:45] walk even to your car in the last few
[1:54:48] weeks, you notice how hot it is. and we
[1:54:52] live on a prairie and this also gives us
[1:54:55] an intention uh an intentional moment to
[1:54:58] uh think about the maps for funding for
[1:55:01] trees. I promise you whether it's OKC
[1:55:04] beautiful or other entities OG& there
[1:55:07] are public private partnerships out
[1:55:09] there waiting for us to create an um
[1:55:14] urban canopy when it comes to trees. Um,
[1:55:17] we have heat map data where people
[1:55:20] volunteered to see where it's the
[1:55:22] hottest all across our city where, you
[1:55:25] know, just have giant stretches of
[1:55:27] asphalt parking lot and then you have
[1:55:28] that hot Oklahoma sun just pouring down
[1:55:30] at 107°. What if there were trees there
[1:55:34] for your children, for seniors, for you?
[1:55:36] And we have funded those, but I have yet
[1:55:38] to hear a plan on where they're going.
[1:55:40] And again, we can be data driven and
[1:55:42] intentional. So, I really would like an
[1:55:44] update on that.
[1:55:45] um relatedly on that same um maps for
[1:55:49] docket was uh street lights and you know
[1:55:53] when I've knocked doors uh and I've
[1:55:56] knocked till it gets dark and it gets
[1:55:58] dark in neighborhoods and again from
[1:56:00] seniors to children I think we need to
[1:56:02] be uh I'd like an update we've already
[1:56:04] funded it voters approved it so I just
[1:56:06] wanted to hear like what data are we
[1:56:08] using to determine where these street
[1:56:10] lights are going and in my mind street
[1:56:12] lights and trees are like priority right
[1:56:14] And anytime it's July and August, you
[1:56:16] have that reminder of the priority. So
[1:56:19] I'd like to hear an update on that,
[1:56:20] please. And then finally, again, keeping
[1:56:23] with the maps for it all. I'm so
[1:56:25] excited. I remember when Mayor came to
[1:56:27] me back in 2019 and said
[1:56:29] beautifification. I don't know what it's
[1:56:31] going to mean yet, but we're going to do
[1:56:32] it and we're going to have an endowment
[1:56:33] along with it. I mean, I just thought it
[1:56:34] was a very inventive moment um from you.
[1:56:38] And so, uh, I hear from residents
[1:56:41] regularly about the cleanliness of OKC
[1:56:44] or sometimes the lack thereof. And I
[1:56:47] would like an update on where we're
[1:56:49] heading with some of these projects. So,
[1:56:50] let me give you an example. I was
[1:56:52] driving over I44 and 63rd Street and we
[1:56:57] have new sidewalks that are there over
[1:56:59] the bridge and there's just grass just
[1:57:02] growing over the sidewalk. So, if you
[1:57:05] have a wheelchair or you have a
[1:57:07] stroller,
[1:57:09] what does your connectivity look like uh
[1:57:12] to Sprouts up the road, right? Or to
[1:57:14] Mayflower Church on the other side like
[1:57:16] or to your home. And so, I just really
[1:57:18] want want us to hear where we're heading
[1:57:21] with the beautifification. And I want us
[1:57:23] again to conclude there to think about,
[1:57:26] you know, we have a street cleaner
[1:57:27] downtown. That street cleaner does not
[1:57:30] exist really anywhere else in the city.
[1:57:31] I do love, by the way, city manager, we
[1:57:33] have the cleaning uh capabilities for
[1:57:35] some of the bike lanes now. I think that
[1:57:37] is a wonderful step in the right
[1:57:38] direction. But I just hear from
[1:57:39] residents too often about, you know, the
[1:57:43] collection of of litter and trash on our
[1:57:47] trails, on our sidewalks, on our
[1:57:49] neighborhood streets, our arterial
[1:57:50] roads. And I would like to see us uh
[1:57:53] move with some intention in those ways.
[1:57:55] Um
[1:57:57] it's it's it what we see determines our
[1:57:59] perception of reality and the perception
[1:58:02] of the city and so again
[1:58:04] beautifification cleaning street lights
[1:58:05] trees to then that agenda um walkth
[1:58:10] through would be very very useful. So I
[1:58:13] appreciate you all. Thank you.
[1:58:17] » Thank you. W three.
[1:58:19] » W four.
[1:58:20] » Thank you Mary. Mayor.
[1:58:23] » Sorry, mayor.
[1:58:24] » I know I'm well aware that mayor is also
[1:58:26] what you call your wife,
[1:58:28] » Right?
[1:58:28] » Maryanne.
[1:58:29] » Yeah. [laughter]
[1:58:30] » So, I know that this I know that this
[1:58:32] has always been for as long as you've
[1:58:33] been on the council an issue for you.
[1:58:34] Yeah.
[1:58:35] » Right.
[1:58:36] Um, you know, last Friday I was able to
[1:58:39] attend the uh MT Barry funeral, uh,
[1:58:42] which is very sad, but it was really
[1:58:44] just a a fantastic celebration
[1:58:48] uh, of his life and, you know, not just
[1:58:53] his life, but all the different things
[1:58:55] that he brought to this city, that he
[1:58:58] brought to his community, to his family,
[1:59:01] and to different friends. And I would
[1:59:03] just like to uh thank everyone that was
[1:59:06] able to speak at that. Um
[1:59:10] they did a fantastic job and it just it
[1:59:12] turned out to be a really nice event. I
[1:59:15] served with him on some committees and I
[1:59:18] always appreciated him very drastically
[1:59:20] and how he worked. So thank you.
[1:59:22] » Thank you. W five. W seven.
[1:59:27] » Thank you, Mayor. Just one thing in
[1:59:29] response to Councilman Cooper. I do
[1:59:31] think it'd be a good idea for us to take
[1:59:33] the time to get educated on multif
[1:59:35] family housing, all of that. And I think
[1:59:38] that that fits very well with the zoning
[1:59:40] code update that is ongoing and the
[1:59:42] conversations that are happening in the
[1:59:43] public. So perhaps a study session with
[1:59:45] the planning commission would be a good
[1:59:47] idea for us to um continue to inform
[1:59:50] ourselves about best practice and
[1:59:51] strategies to ensure that we are acting
[1:59:53] consistently with one another. Um, but I
[1:59:56] would I would support that because I
[1:59:58] think the the other challenge that
[1:59:59] wasn't mentioned when we talked about
[2:00:01] the affordable housing going on, moving
[2:00:03] into that far part of of Oklahoma City
[2:00:06] that we voted on today is that it's very
[2:00:08] hard to get the land and the
[2:00:09] entitlements in the urban core. Um,
[2:00:12] especially when you're talking about
[2:00:13] building at scale like this development
[2:00:15] is. And that's ultimately what led me to
[2:00:17] my yes vote. But but I do completely
[2:00:19] agree with you, Councilman Cooper, that
[2:00:21] we need to be trying to build more
[2:00:22] affordable housing near transit and
[2:00:24] continue to expand our trans public
[2:00:26] transit options. So, um so that's one.
[2:00:29] Two, um I had the the pleasure of
[2:00:32] joining, uh Councilman's Hinkle and
[2:00:35] Stone in Salt Lake City, as well as
[2:00:37] assistant city manager Fairbrush and the
[2:00:39] great one transit team. It was great to
[2:00:41] to see um Salt Lake City's um public
[2:00:45] transit system. The light rail was very
[2:00:47] impressive. It was very clean. I've
[2:00:50] always felt safe. It was certainly a
[2:00:52] very good model for us to con u to look
[2:00:54] at for Oklahoma City in the future. And
[2:00:56] so just excited to see the the one
[2:00:58] transit conversation continue to go
[2:01:00] forward because this is a really
[2:01:02] exciting opportunity for us to really
[2:01:03] make our city um just continue to build
[2:01:06] it up. So I'm just very excited about
[2:01:08] the work and and appreciate all the
[2:01:09] effort that went into the trip.
[2:01:11] » Word.
[2:01:13] » Yes. I want to thank Maryanne Carter.
[2:01:15] For those of you that don't know her,
[2:01:16] she's chair of the National Endowment
[2:01:18] for the Arts, and she has determined
[2:01:20] that Oklahoma City is a wonderful arts
[2:01:23] haven. She was on a two two-day tour
[2:01:25] here with representative Tom Cole and
[2:01:27] others where they toured FAM National
[2:01:30] Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum,
[2:01:32] Oklahoma City National Memorial and
[2:01:34] Museum, the State Capital Art
[2:01:36] Collection, the Oklahoma Contemporary
[2:01:38] Arts Center, the Oklahoma City Ballet,
[2:01:41] uh, and other other art communities uh,
[2:01:44] within Oklahoma City. The one thing that
[2:01:46] stood out to me of what she said was, "I
[2:01:48] feel like Oklahoma City has so much to
[2:01:50] offer." And a lot of people don't think
[2:01:52] about Oklahoma City as an art haven, but
[2:01:54] this is a chance for me now to go spread
[2:01:56] that word to the world. We have a great
[2:01:59] city. We have a great city for art, and
[2:02:01] I encourage people to come and see us.
[2:02:03] Thank you.
[2:02:04] » Thank you. We're now on item 13,
[2:02:06] citizens to be heard. We have We'll
[2:02:08] start if everyone would state their name
[2:02:10] and address and keep your remarks to
[2:02:12] three minutes or less. The clerk will
[2:02:14] remind you when you have 30 seconds
[2:02:16] left. Uh we'll start with Kevin
[2:02:18] McDaniel.
[2:02:32] Good morning. Still morning actually. Um
[2:02:36] TE McDaniel Ward 7. Um, I always come up
[2:02:40] here like thinking that I know what I'm
[2:02:42] gonna talk about and then the meeting
[2:02:43] has so many other things that have just
[2:02:45] been um, interesting to me that I feel
[2:02:47] like I have to speak on it. So, first,
[2:02:50] thank you uh, Councilman Cooper for your
[2:02:52] questions um, and your sort of
[2:02:54] understanding and grasp of what we
[2:02:56] actually need to sort of grow as a city
[2:02:59] in order to actually care for the people
[2:03:02] um, that we're trying to care for when
[2:03:03] we're talking about affordable housing,
[2:03:05] when we're talking about transportation.
[2:03:07] Um I think those are much needed
[2:03:09] questions to be answered. Um and I think
[2:03:12] that sort of brings me to um as you all
[2:03:15] know I'm always here talking about
[2:03:17] participatory budgeting right and like
[2:03:18] how are we getting the people more
[2:03:20] involved in these processes. Um I think
[2:03:23] this is also between this between flock
[2:03:26] um the contracts. I feel like this is
[2:03:28] all coming to we need more participation
[2:03:31] throughout all of these processes
[2:03:33] throughout all of these meetings. Um
[2:03:35] because again, not everybody can show up
[2:03:38] in these places. Um we've been trying to
[2:03:40] figure out for the last few weeks,
[2:03:41] really over the last month, what is
[2:03:43] going to happen on flock? What are we
[2:03:44] going to do with the surveillance here
[2:03:45] in Oklahoma City? Um as flock cameras
[2:03:48] are still being put up, as people are
[2:03:50] still being surveiled. Um we still
[2:03:52] haven't gotten an answer on why um
[2:03:55] whether we're going to sign the contract
[2:03:56] and continue this thing or whether we're
[2:03:58] not. Right. And as Homebase has said, as
[2:04:00] Oklahomaans for Privacy has said, um we
[2:04:02] don't need surveillance um in Oklahoma
[2:04:05] City, right? It has been nothing but
[2:04:07] data proven dangerous and been used in
[2:04:10] ways that are not um safe for our
[2:04:13] community members. And so, how are we
[2:04:15] actually making these spaces and these
[2:04:17] places accessible for people who have
[2:04:20] jobs, for people who have to take care
[2:04:21] of their families, who can't show up
[2:04:23] here at 8:30, right? I look at Tulsa,
[2:04:26] they get to have city council meetings
[2:04:28] after work from 6:00 to 8. They get to
[2:04:30] have much more people um who can
[2:04:33] actually come and have conversations
[2:04:34] with you. I think back to 2020 when we
[2:04:37] had to move these conversations online
[2:04:39] and you had much more of an influx of
[2:04:41] people who could actually give you the
[2:04:44] advice and their life experiences needed
[2:04:46] to make a lot of the decisions you all
[2:04:48] make behind closed doors without the the
[2:04:50] the um without the credible resources
[2:04:55] and experience givers that are the
[2:04:57] community members who are actually
[2:04:59] living through these decisions that you
[2:05:01] all make that have been harmful, right?
[2:05:03] to say the least for a long period of
[2:05:06] time. Um, and now we're getting to a
[2:05:08] place where at least we're getting some
[2:05:10] conversations. Um, and not everybody has
[2:05:12] the blessing of me to be able to work
[2:05:14] for an organization that I got to
[2:05:15] co-ound, where my job is to come and
[2:05:18] organize and tell people the decisions
[2:05:20] you make to the people who are actually
[2:05:22] affected by them and saying, "Well, if
[2:05:24] we can provide you with some of the
[2:05:26] resources that our city council is not
[2:05:27] providing us with, maybe that will give
[2:05:29] you more space to engage in these
[2:05:31] processes. Maybe that will give you more
[2:05:33] space to engage with your neighbors. But
[2:05:35] in fact, this body has not been
[2:05:37] providing those resources. So people
[2:05:39] can't show up because people have to
[2:05:40] take care of themselves first and that
[2:05:43] mean coming into this space. And so I
[2:05:45] want to continue to make this possible
[2:05:48] for people and y'all have to do that
[2:05:50] from that horse.
[2:05:50] » Isn't here?
[2:06:01] Good morning.
[2:06:03] I am here representing Ward 7. Um I
[2:06:08] basing my information off of the maps
[2:06:10] that are available on our um
[2:06:13] governmental website. Um, but I
[2:06:15] represent um I'm present as a resident
[2:06:18] of W 7 here to respectfully submit an
[2:06:21] enclosed petition requesting the
[2:06:22] planning and construction of two new
[2:06:24] Oklahoma City Fire Department stations
[2:06:26] east of Interstate 35 within Ward 7. Um,
[2:06:30] this proposal is based on on the growing
[2:06:32] public safety concern that has existed
[2:06:34] for years and deserves careful
[2:06:35] consideration of our community
[2:06:38] as our community continues to develop.
[2:06:40] Currently, there are no Oklahoma City
[2:06:42] fire stations located east of I35 within
[2:06:45] Ward 7, despite the present of
[2:06:47] established residential neighborhoods,
[2:06:49] expanding commercial development,
[2:06:52] industrial businesses, and undeveloped
[2:06:54] land that can contribute to rapidly
[2:06:56] spreading grass and brush fires.
[2:06:58] Residents and businesses in the area
[2:07:00] primarily rely on fire department 18 and
[2:07:03] 12 for emergency response. And while
[2:07:05] these stations serve have served our
[2:07:07] community with professionalism and
[2:07:09] dedication, they're located west of I35
[2:07:12] and must often navigate heavily travel
[2:07:14] corridors such as Northeast 23rd,
[2:07:17] Northeast 36th, and congested Interstate
[2:07:19] 35 overpasses um before actually
[2:07:22] reaching the emergency east of the
[2:07:25] interstate. And so every minute matters
[2:07:27] during a fire emergency. Um delays
[2:07:29] caused by traffic congestion, railroad
[2:07:32] crossings, roadway bottlenecks, and
[2:07:34] interstate crossings can significantly
[2:07:36] impact the outcome of fire, increasing
[2:07:38] the potential for property loss,
[2:07:40] environmental damage, and threats to
[2:07:42] public safety. Um the eastern portion of
[2:07:45] W 7 um consists of a number of
[2:07:47] industrial and commercial operations
[2:07:50] that because of the nature of the
[2:07:52] businesses present elevated fire risks
[2:07:55] if an incident were to occur. And just a
[2:07:58] few of these businesses, I rode with my
[2:08:00] mom up I35 just to verify, but just a
[2:08:03] few of these is um Insurance, Auto
[2:08:05] Auctions, um Across Chemicals, Hecro
[2:08:09] Rentals, Fireworks Warehouse, Oklahoma
[2:08:11] City, um Craft Tank Corporation, and
[2:08:14] Action Gypsum Supply. These facilities
[2:08:17] store and or utilize vehic uh vehicles,
[2:08:20] industrial equipment, chemicals,
[2:08:22] combustible building materials, fuel
[2:08:24] systems, fireworks, and other products
[2:08:26] that may require specialized uh
[2:08:29] firefighting resources. And while these
[2:08:31] businesses undoubtedly comply with
[2:08:33] applicable building codes and maintain
[2:08:36] insurance coverage, those safeguards do
[2:08:38] not eliminate the potential for impact
[2:08:40] of a fire if they were to arise. And so
[2:08:43] I'm petitioning for the city council to
[2:08:47] consider to initiate a comprehensive
[2:08:49] fire service service coverage study of W
[2:08:52] 7 east of I35. Evaluate the current
[2:08:55] emergency response times and projected
[2:08:57] future service demands. Identify
[2:08:59] potential sites for two strategically
[2:09:01] placed fire stations east of I35 and
[2:09:04] include these stations as a primary uh
[2:09:06] priority in future capital improvement
[2:09:08] planning and budget discussions. Um, I
[2:09:10] did also email this petition to um, Ward
[2:09:13] 7. Pennington, you should have this.
[2:09:15] It's not all that I have to say. Um, but
[2:09:17] this is just the start of if we actually
[2:09:20] want to enrich Oklahoma City,
[2:09:22] specifically W 7, because that is where
[2:09:23] I reside. Um, so that is where my
[2:09:26] concern is.
[2:09:28] » I may have misunderstood. Did you say
[2:09:29] you believe there are no Oklahoma City
[2:09:31] fire stations east of I35?
[2:09:32] » Uh, based on the the map at on the our
[2:09:36] website, I actually printed off our ward
[2:09:38] map. Um, and then I printed off the fire
[2:09:40] stations on that same exact map. I don't
[2:09:43] know if Oklahoma needs to update their
[2:09:45] maps, but
[2:09:46] » So, we have a we do have a map of fire
[2:09:48] stations on our OKC.gov website, and
[2:09:50] there are two east of I35 in Ward 7, uh,
[2:09:53] station 27 and station 4.
[2:09:55] » I'll you can you can actually have this.
[2:09:57] I have a copy of this.
[2:09:58] » Okay. Well, we'll certainly whatever
[2:09:59] that came from, we'll need to update it,
[2:10:01] but we have a fire station map and and
[2:10:03] we have two fire stations east of I35.
[2:10:05] Well, that's what's on the government
[2:10:06] website and that's the information that
[2:10:08] I'm basing my my words on.
[2:10:11] » All right. Well, we've got two. So,
[2:10:13] » Well, we need two more.
[2:10:16] I don't I don't think I don't think
[2:10:18] that's uh I mean
[2:10:20] » I mean if you look at if you look at
[2:10:21] that map and you see how congested fire
[2:10:23] stations west of I35 in certain
[2:10:26] particular areas there's they're there
[2:10:29] residents are more accessible to those
[2:10:31] fire stations and emergency resources if
[2:10:34] something were to happen where I
[2:10:35] actually live in Ward 7 if something
[2:10:37] were to occur because Oklahoma is not
[2:10:40] consistent or in a in a rush to fix
[2:10:44] roads. Um, you guys like to keep trains
[2:10:48] stopped on the on railroads.
[2:10:49] » We don't have any control.
[2:10:50] » So, yeah.
[2:10:51] » Um,
[2:10:52] » Okay. Amber Ramsey,
[2:10:54] » Happy to visit with you. I'll reach out.
[2:11:06] » Good morning, honorable mayor and
[2:11:08] council members. I'm going to kind of
[2:11:09] talk to the side because they apply
[2:11:11] mostly to me. My name is Amber Ramsey. I
[2:11:14] live at 2838 Cheyenne Way, Piedmont,
[2:11:16] Oklahoma. I actually work at a place
[2:11:19] that will be impacted by the decision
[2:11:21] you just made. Um, I'm a wife, a mother,
[2:11:24] a Republican, and I hope you guys can
[2:11:25] look at me and listen to me when I talk.
[2:11:27] It's important.
[2:11:30] I work in a profession where I serve the
[2:11:32] people of this great state every single
[2:11:34] day, much like you. And I still believe
[2:11:38] in our government, a government by and
[2:11:41] for the people. I would like to share
[2:11:43] some numbers with you today. In
[2:11:45] Piedmont, Kingfisher County, and
[2:11:48] Canadian County, there are third um
[2:11:51] 1,332
[2:11:52] acres. In Okie and King Fischer, 292
[2:11:56] acres, Cashion and Logan County, 509
[2:11:59] acres. Yukon and Oklahoma City, 546
[2:12:03] acres. Luther, 320 acres. all in
[2:12:07] disclosed land options or announced
[2:12:11] projects for data centers. Those are the
[2:12:13] land options that we know about. And
[2:12:15] please don't stop listening because I
[2:12:17] said that word data center. I know it's
[2:12:18] a hot topic.
[2:12:20] This is all immediately in our region.
[2:12:23] 300 acres. It's not one data center or
[2:12:27] just one city. It's an entire grid
[2:12:29] impacting the whole region.
[2:12:33] It's 3,000 total acres near homes in its
[2:12:37] co-located energy facilities.
[2:12:42] The question is is where does it end?
[2:12:44] Per the CEO of Cloverleaf at our last
[2:12:46] city council meeting, and I quote him
[2:12:48] exactly, it ends at the capacity of the
[2:12:52] electric grid.
[2:12:54] That's terrifying, but I disagree.
[2:12:58] It ends with you.
[2:13:01] Just as stated in that prayer, you set
[2:13:04] the standard for this state.
[2:13:08] You set the standard for Oklahoma and
[2:13:09] this nation.
[2:13:11] You speak for the people.
[2:13:14] You have to lead with compassion for
[2:13:17] your constituents. You have to have
[2:13:19] empathy for the fears they're having
[2:13:21] right now. You have to at least try and
[2:13:23] listen and look at me when I talk.
[2:13:30] Mr. Cooper, I can tell your empathy. I
[2:13:33] can feel it. You can tell you're a real
[2:13:34] person. Miss Avers, I've watched you.
[2:13:36] You're listening.
[2:13:38] » 30 seconds remaining.
[2:13:39] » Mr. Carter, it's easy to make decisions
[2:13:42] on your boundaries that you don't think
[2:13:44] impact you, but they do. We do not have
[2:13:48] the water for this for all of these data
[2:13:50] centers. But it's not fair to make
[2:13:52] decisions on your borders that impact
[2:13:54] the cities around you and it's not fair.
[2:13:57] You are in a position of leadership.
[2:14:00] There's a lot of weight to that and you
[2:14:02] do set that standard. I hope and I pray
[2:14:05] for each and every single one of you
[2:14:06] that you can handle that weight and that
[2:14:08] you can look at what's happening in our
[2:14:10] region. Please take a bigger look. Look
[2:14:12] around you, not in the small picture,
[2:14:14] the big picture. Thank you.
[2:14:18] Adam Slatterie.
[2:14:32] » Adam Slattery, 2330 Shell Creek Road,
[2:14:36] Oklahoma City, Yukon, wherever. Mr.
[2:14:38] Mayor, I think she was talking to you.
[2:14:41] You didn't look up one time when she was
[2:14:44] addressing you. It's disrespectful.
[2:14:46] Still don't choose to look up at me.
[2:14:49] Okay.
[2:14:50] So, I'll start now. Once again, for the
[2:14:52] ninth time, I've planned my week around
[2:14:55] being here on a Tuesday expecting to
[2:14:57] hear PUD 20 21105 2124.
[2:15:02] Why? because I'll be damned if I sit and
[2:15:05] listen to another meeting like February
[2:15:07] 10th where Councilman Stone Cipher,
[2:15:09] Councilman Carter,
[2:15:12] criticized, belittled a council woman I
[2:15:15] voted for.
[2:15:18] Um because as stated, there wasn't
[2:15:21] anybody present to speak in opposition
[2:15:23] to a pud that many neighbors believed
[2:15:26] was not in the best interest of our
[2:15:28] community.
[2:15:30] the despite those concerns being
[2:15:33] expressed in writing, the PUD was
[2:15:35] ultimately pushed forward and approved
[2:15:37] because why the threat that the
[2:15:39] landowner would lose the deal.
[2:15:43] Is that the same treatment we can expect
[2:15:46] when PUD 21105
[2:15:48] 2124 is finally heard
[2:15:52] after nine deferrals? Are we going to
[2:15:54] rubber stamp this because the deal may
[2:15:56] fall through for the owner? [snorts]
[2:15:59] And what are we doing here? Every one of
[2:16:01] you is elected to serve the people and
[2:16:05] represent
[2:16:07] the will of the constituents,
[2:16:10] not to make decisions based the
[2:16:11] possibility of land deal falling through
[2:16:14] being sued by a multi-billion dollar
[2:16:16] corporation
[2:16:19] over a zoning request that isn't
[2:16:21] compatible with the surrounding area or
[2:16:23] in the city's own comprehensive plan.
[2:16:28] Why are we continuing to spend so many
[2:16:30] resources, city manager, time
[2:16:34] negotiating, revising the applications
[2:16:36] while there's a moratorium in place?
[2:16:38] Across the city, across Oklahoma, across
[2:16:41] the country, communities are raising
[2:16:45] legitimate concerns about locating these
[2:16:48] types of developments in their
[2:16:49] communities.
[2:16:51] Shouldn't the voices of your residents
[2:16:54] carry more weight than the wishes of a
[2:16:56] corporation?
[2:16:59] These these two puds will set a
[2:17:01] significant precedent not only for the
[2:17:03] western edge of Oklahoma City.
[2:17:05] » 30 seconds.
[2:17:06] » But for communities throughout
[2:17:08] Canadian County,
[2:17:10] every concession made through the next
[2:17:12] amendments and every revision tailored
[2:17:14] to these applicants become the standard
[2:17:16] of the future. Mr. Pennington
[2:17:19] Luther's Luther borders you Canadian
[2:17:22] County may seem far right now, but this
[2:17:25] same developer is in Luther.
[2:17:28] You vote for this, you the city sets a
[2:17:30] precedent. They're coming to Oklahoma
[2:17:32] City. They're getting out of Luther.
[2:17:35] » I've got a little bit more to say, but
[2:17:36] Mr. Cooper, I appreciate your
[2:17:37] intentionality. Uh,
[2:17:39] » Mr. We are at time, but thank you.
[2:17:41] » Thank you.
[2:17:41] » Next up is Shauna Nelson.
[2:17:56] Hello, my name is Shauna Nelson. I live
[2:17:58] out in Pedmont. Um, I'm here because of
[2:18:00] the data centers. I am retired from the
[2:18:03] United States Navy. We when we got our
[2:18:06] orders to come to Oklahoma City, we were
[2:18:08] kind of shocked being in the Navy. Um,
[2:18:10] my husband retired out of Tinker Air
[2:18:12] Force Base. A lot of Navy out there.
[2:18:15] So when we chose the area, we thought we
[2:18:17] made the right decision after having to
[2:18:19] to move every few years. You go where
[2:18:21] the where the military tells you to go.
[2:18:23] So we chose our area. We just found out
[2:18:27] um about the data center in Pedmont, but
[2:18:29] that's not the only one. They have in in
[2:18:31] Yukon. They're trying to go in Oklahoma
[2:18:33] City, Luther, Cashion. It's not one area
[2:18:36] that's going to be affected. So it's not
[2:18:38] just Pemont I'm speaking of. Um, I
[2:18:41] didn't know anything about it because
[2:18:43] even though the Cloverleaf um,
[2:18:47] representative claims they're
[2:18:48] transparent, they're not. They go under
[2:18:50] multiple LLC's. They do um, Beltline,
[2:18:53] which is the one one of the the two
[2:18:55] trying to go to Pemont is in Luther.
[2:18:58] It's in He's in Yukon and he's in
[2:19:00] Oklahoma City. Um, they are trying they
[2:19:02] do NDAs. There's a reason why they are
[2:19:05] being so sneaky and you're not hearing
[2:19:07] about it in the news because it's not
[2:19:08] necessarily good for the environment. Um
[2:19:11] I think before any projects go forward,
[2:19:14] there needs to be more studies done for
[2:19:16] um electricity. As as Amber said, they
[2:19:19] even said they'll keep building until
[2:19:20] electricity grid is at capacity. Right
[2:19:23] now there's already um a high power
[2:19:25] transmission line proposed from Luther
[2:19:27] to north of Pedmont for the development.
[2:19:30] They were told it's not going to be for
[2:19:32] the data centers, but amazingly enough,
[2:19:34] that's what the representative from
[2:19:35] Clover Leaf said. They're cheating that
[2:19:37] area for the Mat Mat substation. Um so I
[2:19:41] think um taking a step back, if one area
[2:19:45] goes, the whole area goes. This isn't
[2:19:48] this doesn't seem to be good for
[2:19:49] Oklahoma City um or even for the state
[2:19:51] of Oklahoma. There's already some up in
[2:19:53] the Tulsa area and we're already getting
[2:19:55] push back. So I think I would request
[2:19:58] that um
[2:20:00] you take the time talk to the citizens
[2:20:03] because I don't think um not listening
[2:20:06] to your citizens is the appropriate
[2:20:07] thing because you are elected officials
[2:20:09] and they're trusting your judgment and
[2:20:12] um asking for studies um considering the
[2:20:14] historical significance of where some of
[2:20:17] these projects are going something to to
[2:20:19] take into consideration because once
[2:20:21] it's gone it's gone for good. Thank you.
[2:20:25] Thank you, Jana Dunaway.
[2:20:31] Okay, Jarrett Freeman.
[2:20:41] Good morning, council. Jarrett Freeman,
[2:20:43] 675 Parkwood Lane. I'm a W1 resident and
[2:20:47] I've spent the majority of this year
[2:20:48] reviewing our contract with the Flock
[2:20:50] Safety and the company behind it.
[2:20:52] Yesterday, a media outlet published a
[2:20:54] leaked internal document titled How to
[2:20:56] Speak to City Councils about public
[2:20:58] safety technology. This is a playbook
[2:21:01] that's given to uh police departments
[2:21:05] and it gives them scripts on how to
[2:21:07] defend flock at council meetings just
[2:21:09] like this one. It scripts opening lines
[2:21:12] for officers. It teaches them to reframe
[2:21:14] finances around quote the cost of
[2:21:16] unsolved crime. But here on page four,
[2:21:20] Flock itself writes, "Don't avoid the
[2:21:22] concept of mass surveillance because
[2:21:24] you're not going to convince opponents
[2:21:26] that it's not." This is Flock's own
[2:21:28] words in their own playbook.
[2:21:32] And Flock conceds what this platform is.
[2:21:34] It's mass surveillance. Under section
[2:21:36] 2.4 of the current contract with them,
[2:21:39] Flock retains the unilateral control
[2:21:42] over what these cameras do. Every
[2:21:44] capability that they've developed since
[2:21:46] 2023 was pushed to already installed
[2:21:48] devices. And even today, while this
[2:21:50] contract is under review, a new Flock
[2:21:53] camera went up one block away from my
[2:21:55] home with their uh Raven audio detector
[2:21:58] attached. No vote, no expanded
[2:22:01] authorization. Yet, Flock is already
[2:22:03] installing new devices and upgrading
[2:22:05] their capacity while we delay. On July
[2:22:08] 10th, the OCPD stated to me in writing
[2:22:11] that no records exist connecting flock
[2:22:13] to case outcomes. And then 3 days later,
[2:22:16] I'm sorry, 4 days later, the police
[2:22:18] union president went on television and
[2:22:20] called these same camera systems
[2:22:22] instrumental to their policy or to their
[2:22:24] success. But you can't call a system
[2:22:27] instrumental if you don't track its
[2:22:28] effectiveness. You can't. It can't be
[2:22:31] both. Last week, the OCBD confirmed to
[2:22:34] me in writing that an officer has
[2:22:36] already used the system for
[2:22:37] inappropriate purposes for the course of
[2:22:40] five months. That officer was caught and
[2:22:42] reprimanded because a private citizen
[2:22:44] filed a complaint. Let me say that
[2:22:46] again. OCPD officers have been confirmed
[2:22:50] using this system inappropriate already.
[2:22:54] When I asked for the platform's own
[2:22:56] audit log, they denied that to me. Today
[2:22:59] in OKC, the public is the only system to
[2:23:02] audit this platform. Every time this
[2:23:05] contract is defended, the defense is a
[2:23:07] single anecdote. A recovered car, maybe
[2:23:09] a silver alert cleared, but it's never
[2:23:11] data. It's never a platform.
[2:23:13] » 30 seconds.
[2:23:14] » Thank you. The statistics don't support
[2:23:17] the anecdote. LAPD's own inspector
[2:23:19] general audit found the system is wrong
[2:23:21] one in three times. Every wrong hit is a
[2:23:24] potential armed stop of an innocent
[2:23:26] person. In February, a Flock camera in
[2:23:29] Arkansas misread a plate and officers
[2:23:31] held the couple in that vehicle at
[2:23:32] gunpoint with their six-month-old child
[2:23:35] in the car seat. This is not a safety
[2:23:37] tool. This is a safety risk. Do not
[2:23:40] renew this contract. Get these cameras
[2:23:42] off of our streets and don't sign with
[2:23:44] another vendor. Thank you.
[2:23:45] » Excuse me. May I see that? And can I I
[2:23:49] just want to go make a copy for myself
[2:23:50] and my colleagues. I've just heard about
[2:23:52] that last night. Thank you.
[2:23:53] » Yes, sir.
[2:23:55] Carly Heightland.
[2:24:12] Hi, my name is Kari Highland. I'm a
[2:24:14] resident of Ward 2 and I'm here to
[2:24:16] present strong and widespread public
[2:24:19] opposition to renewing the flock
[2:24:21] contracts. Here you see 1,816
[2:24:26] signatures by your constituents. and
[2:24:29] they have agreed to demand that the
[2:24:31] Oklahoma City Council permanently
[2:24:33] terminates its contract with Flock at
[2:24:35] the earliest possible opportunity to do
[2:24:38] so. The earliest possible opportunity to
[2:24:40] do so has already passed and yet we are
[2:24:43] still urging you to terminate OKC's
[2:24:46] contract with Flock. Our community is
[2:24:48] engaged. Every time you delay this vote,
[2:24:51] our numbers for this petition and for
[2:24:53] support against Flock grows. Continually
[2:24:57] delaying this vote allows Flock to
[2:24:59] continue installing new cameras,
[2:25:01] surveilling us, and collecting our data
[2:25:04] without proper storage. In effect, each
[2:25:07] time this vote is delayed, the council
[2:25:09] is casting their vote to continue the
[2:25:12] contract for two weeks or more without
[2:25:14] hearing public comment and listening to
[2:25:17] citizen concerns. I am sure you have all
[2:25:20] received direct outreach from your
[2:25:22] constituents. And the over 1,800 people
[2:25:25] who have signed this petition, plus many
[2:25:27] others I have spoken with, have three
[2:25:29] key demands. Number one, have the OKC
[2:25:32] city council not renew the flock
[2:25:34] contract. Number two, remove our current
[2:25:37] flock cameras. And number three, do not
[2:25:39] partner with another AP alpr vendor. I
[2:25:43] hope you will take the time to read
[2:25:45] these petitions, to read the names of
[2:25:47] your constituents, the people who these
[2:25:49] cameras are affecting. I have personally
[2:25:52] spoken with hundreds of Oklahomaans
[2:25:54] about flock surveillance surveillance,
[2:25:56] and I tell you that it is rare to find
[2:25:58] an issue that Oklahomaans are so united
[2:26:01] on. Your constituents have spoken loud
[2:26:04] and clear. We want flock out of our
[2:26:06] city. And as residents of Oklahoma City
[2:26:09] and the people being surveiled by flock
[2:26:11] cameras, we urge you to stand with us,
[2:26:13] your constituents, put this issue to a
[2:26:16] vote, and vote not to renew the contract
[2:26:18] with Flock Safety. You will continue
[2:26:20] hearing from us until this happens.
[2:26:22] Thank you.
[2:26:25] » Thank you, CJ Carpenter.
[2:26:40] Good morning. Thank the council for
[2:26:41] their time. I am your neighbor in
[2:26:44] Canadian County and the item you're
[2:26:46] considering 9C. Thank you for postponing
[2:26:49] it. My wife and I are both school
[2:26:51] teachers, so we will be unavailable
[2:26:52] August 18th. So, I must make our wishes
[2:26:55] known today. What is a city? A city is a
[2:26:58] collection of neighbors who live
[2:27:00] together for mutual benefit, protection,
[2:27:03] and support.
[2:27:05] And so, uh, we are your neighbors. Thank
[2:27:07] you. We buy your water. Thank you so
[2:27:09] much for being neighbors to us in
[2:27:11] Canadian County. I live in one of the
[2:27:14] three neighborhoods that would be
[2:27:16] considered ground zero for the noise,
[2:27:19] the pollution, and the other things
[2:27:20] we're considering with Cloverleaf.
[2:27:23] Um, you're well aware, you're well
[2:27:25] verssed in the issues. I can only speak
[2:27:27] from a father's heart. My wife and I are
[2:27:29] raising five children. Um I have a
[2:27:32] condition uh known as tenitus. It's very
[2:27:34] common in tenitis, right, with the
[2:27:36] ringing in the ears. Mine comes with
[2:27:38] what's called recruitment
[2:27:40] and it can be crippling. Please do not
[2:27:43] fill our home and neighborhood with the
[2:27:47] the decibel level of a vacuum cleaner
[2:27:50] constantly running. We will have to sell
[2:27:52] our house.
[2:27:55] My youngest son is nine and a half and
[2:27:57] he's already asking for Christmas
[2:27:59] presents. You know how they do. He wants
[2:28:01] a telescope. With our current level of
[2:28:03] of light pollution, we can see about 15
[2:28:06] stars and planets.
[2:28:08] He wants to tell us, he's very serious
[2:28:10] about that. Please do not fill us with
[2:28:13] additional light pollution. We we would
[2:28:15] be less than a mile, scarcely a mile
[2:28:17] from the proposed site for your for your
[2:28:19] PUD.
[2:28:22] Lastly, my middle son um was our asthma
[2:28:26] patient and we spent many nights in
[2:28:28] hospitals and uh paying very high doctor
[2:28:31] bills getting him through that that
[2:28:33] rough period. Well, by the grace of God,
[2:28:35] he is now 15 and he's beaten a lot of
[2:28:38] his childhood asthma and he's actually
[2:28:40] come out for cross country. He's now
[2:28:42] running two and a half miles, three
[2:28:43] miles every morning. Very proud of that
[2:28:45] young man.
[2:28:47] Please do not fill our backyard air with
[2:28:51] diesel exhaust and phthalates that are
[2:28:53] going to his breathing and set
[2:28:55] us back.
[2:28:57] You're our neighbors, Oklahoma City.
[2:28:59] We've tried to be good neighbors. We're
[2:29:01] we're nice people in Canadian County. We
[2:29:04] appreciate you guys so much, but you're
[2:29:06] the biggest city in the state. You're
[2:29:08] the leaders of this state and people are
[2:29:11] looking to you for president.
[2:29:12] » 30 seconds, please.
[2:29:14] » That's all I have for you. Thank you for
[2:29:15] your time.
[2:29:17] Thank you. Steve Hunt.
[2:29:20] » Sorry, what?
[2:29:22] » Oh, next name. Steve Hunt.
[2:29:31] » Steve Hunt 6300. Um, like to request the
[2:29:34] U person doing the production to get a
[2:29:37] shot of Dave staring down at his ADL
[2:29:40] Defender of Democracy Award while I
[2:29:42] speak. That would be pretty good.
[2:29:45] Um, we have a couple different things
[2:29:47] that I want to talk about. Um, about how
[2:29:51] nobody wants to be surveiled. Nobody
[2:29:53] wants to be surveiled. And here's a
[2:29:56] little story about that. Um, couple
[2:29:59] months ago, I had some some people know
[2:30:02] that I'm a big cigar afficionado. And uh
[2:30:05] some friends of mine at the uh burn
[2:30:07] lounge contacted me saying that Dave and
[2:30:12] some of his friends went in there and
[2:30:14] that there was someone
[2:30:16] someone with them that asked asked them
[2:30:19] to turn the uh security cameras off and
[2:30:24] I'm like what it's like yep
[2:30:28] and I don't know who who was with him.
[2:30:30] Do you know who was it, Dave?
[2:30:34] I think maybe it was Silver Lake Capital
[2:30:35] or someone because they were all in
[2:30:37] suits and there was someone that may
[2:30:38] have been a security guy or something,
[2:30:39] but they they went up there and say,
[2:30:41] "Can you please turn the security
[2:30:42] cameras off?" And of course, they're
[2:30:44] like, "Our insurance won't let us do
[2:30:45] that." But that's just a little story
[2:30:47] about how people don't like to be
[2:30:49] surveiled.
[2:30:53] » [sighs]
[2:30:56] » So, a little update on uh Thunder Radio
[2:31:00] and Television. Um I've been speaking
[2:31:03] about how the uh equity private equity
[2:31:06] adjacent company Main Street Sports who
[2:31:09] did the uh Thunder TV is insolvent, no
[2:31:12] longer exists. and Cumulus, who does the
[2:31:16] radio, just filed their second uh
[2:31:18] chapter 11, and they're waiting the uh
[2:31:23] administration,
[2:31:24] the FCC to give their licenses over to
[2:31:26] their creditors. And that's probably not
[2:31:28] going to happen until the season starts.
[2:31:31] And it's just crazy that there's like no
[2:31:34] discussion whatsoever about this because
[2:31:36] the people have given billions of
[2:31:38] dollars and they've been having to pay
[2:31:41] to watch the Thunder. And that's because
[2:31:43] they were trying to get the citizens to
[2:31:46] help Main Street Sports
[2:31:49] service their debt. And that's that's
[2:31:51] the problem. That's why I always talk
[2:31:52] about private equity because when we
[2:31:54] hand contracts to them,
[2:31:56] » It's all like super highly leveraged
[2:31:58] debt and they rarely pay off anything
[2:32:02] other than the interest. That's why shut
[2:32:04] down because their IBIDA was 13 million
[2:32:07] less than
[2:32:09] » Uh their debt interest. And um there's a
[2:32:13] lot to talk about on that stuff and I
[2:32:15] can't do it in 17 seconds. So I want to
[2:32:17] recommend a book to the people out in
[2:32:19] channel 20 land watching on YouTube.
[2:32:22] Lords of Easy Money. This is one of the
[2:32:25] best books I've ever read and it
[2:32:26] explains how our recovery money and our
[2:32:31] Zer money from the housing collapse all
[2:32:33] went to these equity firms to buy these
[2:32:35] businesses that are now taking over the
[2:32:38] functionality of our municipality. So,
[2:32:41] thank you
[2:32:41] » Gregory Brown.
[2:32:46] » Okay, Joseph Ross.
[2:32:58] » I want to thank I want to thank the
[2:32:59] committee who's been uh paying attention
[2:33:01] and kind of keeping their heads up and
[2:33:03] seeing what's going on with the people
[2:33:05] that's talking. You know, uh I think we
[2:33:07] got some really important concerns. Uh,
[2:33:09] I came to talk to y'all about the flock
[2:33:10] situation. Um, just recently I was
[2:33:13] pulled over by a police officer for uh
[2:33:17] something illegal. I'm a first amendment
[2:33:19] auditor and I go around recording police
[2:33:21] officers uh making sure to not violate
[2:33:23] any of our rights. And um as I'm leaving
[2:33:27] uh a police officer stopped uh a police
[2:33:30] officer actually stopped me and he told
[2:33:32] me uh you know hey you know I'm going to
[2:33:35] write you a ticket and you know why were
[2:33:37] you recording and all this other crap
[2:33:41] and as I was leaving he he tells me he
[2:33:44] says hey are you affiliated with any
[2:33:47] motorcycle gang members because I'm on a
[2:33:49] motorcycle now. I didn't have on any
[2:33:51] motorcycle uh insignia. I didn't have on
[2:33:54] any patches or cuts or vests, but at the
[2:33:57] end of the conversation when I asked him
[2:33:59] I free to go, he told me he was going to
[2:34:00] put me in the flock system as a outlaw
[2:34:03] motorcycle gang member. Now, um you
[2:34:07] know, in no shape, form or fashion am I
[2:34:09] a gang member. I'm not an outlaw. I'm
[2:34:12] not a oneenter. But for him to use the
[2:34:16] flock system to put me in the system as
[2:34:19] a criminal as affiliated with criminals
[2:34:22] or known outlaws.
[2:34:25] That's that's not that's not cool. I I
[2:34:28] don't I don't think that this system was
[2:34:31] used to uh do things like this. Uh,
[2:34:35] another thing that I heard, uh, when I
[2:34:37] got pulled over for the same illegal tag
[2:34:40] display a month before, uh, but that
[2:34:43] officer, he was joking, you know, he
[2:34:45] made a joke about it. He was like, "Hey,
[2:34:46] I'm going to put you in the system. So,
[2:34:49] uh, you know, in case you commit any
[2:34:50] crimes, you know, we know where you work
[2:34:52] at. We're just going to come pick you up
[2:34:53] from work." It's [snorts] it's it's sad
[2:34:57] that you guys can use these cameras and
[2:34:59] stuff to target citizens in the
[2:35:01] community. But one thing that these
[2:35:03] flock cameras don't do, I want y'all to
[2:35:05] think about, they're not targeting you
[2:35:07] guys. They're not targeting government
[2:35:08] officials or police officers who's
[2:35:10] running red lights, who's speeding, uh
[2:35:13] who's committing crimes. Y'all flock
[2:35:15] cameras aren't aren't aren't aren't used
[2:35:18] for
[2:35:20] anyone but a targeted community that
[2:35:23] y'all feel like it's should be targeted
[2:35:25] towards. And I know in 2 seconds I have
[2:35:28] 30 seconds.
[2:35:29] » Seconds.
[2:35:30] » Thank you so much. If you notice also as
[2:35:33] we're up here on this stand talking,
[2:35:35] there's a couple of people, well,
[2:35:37] there's a few people that are engaged
[2:35:39] and paying attention to our
[2:35:40] conversation, but there's so many people
[2:35:42] that's not. And I want to bring
[2:35:45] something else to your attention, too.
[2:35:46] That's why terms there shouldn't be any
[2:35:49] uh any rest there should be restrictions
[2:35:52] on how long you can be in office because
[2:35:55] I think some people get comfortable in
[2:35:56] their position and they just don't care
[2:35:58] anymore. Thank you,
[2:36:00] » Stephanie Bertine.
[2:36:23] Good morning. Stephanie Berdine, 515
[2:36:26] Maple, Yukon, Oklahoma. For the people
[2:36:29] who weren't here at the last meeting,
[2:36:31] I'll play the audio again of uh from the
[2:36:35] University of Texas School of
[2:36:36] Engineering recorded in Roundrock, Texas
[2:36:39] of Hypers Scale Data Centers, uh 1500 ft
[2:36:44] away.
[2:36:51] If you pass 21105 and 21104,
[2:36:56] uh, you're going to set a precedence for
[2:36:59] the most unpopular thing in the United
[2:37:01] States of America right now, hypers
[2:37:03] scale data centers. Um, the one that
[2:37:07] this put applies to is 300 ft, a mere
[2:37:12] 300 ft away from houses in Yukon.
[2:37:18] Now, this is not just going to affect
[2:37:20] Yukon. It's going to affect the whole
[2:37:22] metro if you pass this because
[2:37:26] not just the noise, but the Southwest
[2:37:29] Power Grid um is currently operating
[2:37:33] under emergency order 202-26-31
[2:37:37] section 202
[2:37:40] C of the federal power um
[2:37:44] of the Fowler Pedro Act. Um the next
[2:37:48] step is level three. That's an emergency
[2:37:50] pre to prevent rolling blackouts. Um if
[2:37:54] we don't have any power, if we're in
[2:37:57] that kind of shape, how are we going to
[2:37:59] support uh data centers in the metro
[2:38:02] area? Who's going to be first in line
[2:38:04] for power when we get to level three? Is
[2:38:07] it going to be the hospitals? Is it
[2:38:09] going to be homes? Is it going to be the
[2:38:11] three largest three largest industries
[2:38:14] in Oklahoma City that uh help our
[2:38:17] country and security FAA,
[2:38:20] the National Weather Service, Tinker, or
[2:38:23] do the data centers win? And why in the
[2:38:27] world are we going to let speculators
[2:38:30] trying to trade a packaged idea of
[2:38:33] economic relief to municipalities
[2:38:36] uh to really come before the citizens of
[2:38:39] the metro and their right to peaceful
[2:38:42] existence?
[2:38:43] And then I'd like to know what's the
[2:38:45] legacy you all want to leave. Mayor
[2:38:48] Holt, you're uh doing some fantastic
[2:38:51] things.
[2:38:52] » 30 seconds remaining. But what what do
[2:38:55] you want your legacy to be? Do you want
[2:38:57] it to be the Olympics? Do you want it to
[2:38:59] be the thunder, the arts? That Oklahoma
[2:39:02] City is a destination? Because if PUD
[2:39:05] 21105 and 21 pass, your legacy is going
[2:39:08] to be data centers. And I really wonder
[2:39:11] what a lady we have in common would be
[2:39:13] thinking right now of that boy on the
[2:39:15] culdeac. I really wonder what Judy
[2:39:17] Lindsay would think of these data
[2:39:20] centers because I have a feeling she
[2:39:22] wouldn't be for them. Thank you for your
[2:39:24] time.
[2:39:25] » Kristen Schubel,
[2:39:29] » Kristen Schubel.
[2:39:43] Hello. Uh Kristen Shouil from War 2.
[2:39:46] Again, I spoke here recently on Flock. I
[2:39:49] uh ran out of time, so I'm back to
[2:39:50] running a bit more.
[2:39:52] Um there's a tendency in some circles to
[2:39:56] dis to dismiss worries over data
[2:39:58] centers, AI, and flock as a bunch of
[2:40:01] baloo from ignorant leites. And I'd like
[2:40:04] to push back on that perception. It used
[2:40:07] to be that when big tech sold the public
[2:40:10] on new tech, it led with obvious
[2:40:12] benefits. Google gave us super fast,
[2:40:15] far-reaching search engine that could
[2:40:17] organize the web for our perusal. And it
[2:40:20] kept one uping itself with Gmail, Google
[2:40:23] Earth, Google Fiber, and more. Facebook
[2:40:26] promised to keep us connected to our
[2:40:27] social circles and connect us to new
[2:40:29] people. Apple gave us these tiny little
[2:40:32] pocket computers with smooth home
[2:40:34] buttons that felt great to the touch.
[2:40:37] Originally, these were products where
[2:40:38] the customer experience was top of mind.
[2:40:41] These once great features have almost
[2:40:44] universally declined in quality and
[2:40:46] functionality. Now, you're lucky if you
[2:40:48] can find via search what you were able
[2:40:50] to find 10 or even 20 years ago. Those
[2:40:54] lovely home buttons were removed many
[2:40:56] years ago in favor of more efficient
[2:40:57] production. While Apple's prices
[2:40:59] continued to rise, and Facebook I won't
[2:41:02] even comment on. [laughter]
[2:41:03] Now big tech doesn't even bother making
[2:41:05] helpful tools for the people. They have
[2:41:07] taken the trust they earned and spent it
[2:41:09] on contracts with big businesses and
[2:41:11] governments. There is a trend of
[2:41:13] technologies being pushed is benefiting
[2:41:15] our safety and wellness while actually
[2:41:17] limiting our privacy and decreasing
[2:41:19] feelings of safety. For many of us, this
[2:41:22] entire information age has felt like a
[2:41:24] bait and switch as we enter the age of,
[2:41:26] pardon my French, inshitification.
[2:41:29] This is not baseless paranoia you're
[2:41:31] seeing. This is people who are fed up
[2:41:33] with real abuses by big tech and their
[2:41:35] expanding tentacles which seem to make
[2:41:38] everything they touch worse. It has to
[2:41:40] do with lacks and sometimes undemocratic
[2:41:42] municipalities.
[2:41:44] I'd like to suggest that supporters of
[2:41:46] these technologies sleep comfortably
[2:41:49] because they believe they'll never be
[2:41:50] the target of these systems. They don't
[2:41:52] have any weird beliefs. They don't have
[2:41:55] any punk rock magazines from high
[2:41:56] school. They perceive themselves as
[2:41:58] upright members of our community who can
[2:42:00] only benefit from the protections
[2:42:02] brought by these omnipresent cameras. I
[2:42:05] don't have that trust. And not because
[2:42:06] I'm a bad guy or a criminal, but because
[2:42:09] the law can go wrong even in the hands
[2:42:11] of good actors. And in the last year,
[2:42:14] not necessarily here, citizens have been
[2:42:16] detained, deported, arrested, and jailed
[2:42:19] for their beliefs. 30 seconds remaining.
[2:42:22] » Shoot. Our Secretary of State, Marco
[2:42:24] Rubio, last month released a list of
[2:42:26] dangerous leftist terrorists, including
[2:42:29] the co-owner of Ben & Jerry's.
[2:42:32] Why on earth would I trust the state or
[2:42:34] a connected third party like Flock with
[2:42:36] more power, to surveil me and everyone
[2:42:38] else? We seem to be entering another Red
[2:42:41] Scare. And I do worry this tech will be
[2:42:43] used by actors beyond this city to to
[2:42:46] take advantage of our data and for the
[2:42:48] purpose of ideological suppression.
[2:42:51] Uh oh boy. Uh since I'm running out of
[2:42:53] time, um I hope for better from this
[2:42:56] council when it comes to scrutinizing
[2:42:58] flock and other big tech vendors that
[2:43:00] come through these parts. Um I want to
[2:43:03] give a shout out to Jared Freeman
[2:43:05] because I think we're
[2:43:06] » We're at time. Good work. Okay. Thank
[2:43:08] you. Nella Truman,
[2:43:11] if I'm saying that right.
[2:43:24] » Good morning, council mayor.
[2:43:27] How are you? Um, I have a whole bunch
[2:43:30] written to say today. Um, my name is
[2:43:34] Pencia Truhan. I live at 2401 Lost Lake
[2:43:37] Lane, your ward three um Yukon address,
[2:43:41] Oklahoma City limits and onethird of a
[2:43:44] mile from where the data centers would
[2:43:46] be. I am retired. I have my dreamhouse
[2:43:51] of almost six acres. I have horses. I
[2:43:54] have retired raceh horses from the
[2:43:55] track. Um one is 32 years old. Um I
[2:44:01] can't imagine what his life would be
[2:44:02] like listening to that hum. He's outside
[2:44:05] 24/7. I have other horses. Um, I had a
[2:44:10] lot to say. Um, I'm nervous. I'm scared.
[2:44:14] I haven't slept much since all this has
[2:44:16] been going on. Um, it's affecting my
[2:44:20] life. Should I put money in my house?
[2:44:23] Should I stop? What's my home value
[2:44:25] going to be? This is the biggest thing I
[2:44:27] have is my home, my horses, and my life
[2:44:30] where I live. And this could all be
[2:44:32] taken from me.
[2:44:34] Um
[2:44:36] it's very personal.
[2:44:39] I uh I had a whole bunch written to say
[2:44:43] um but basically these data centers do
[2:44:46] not belong in our communities. This is
[2:44:48] our community. We are basically a few
[2:44:51] houses on Ridgeland and two
[2:44:54] subdivisions, mine and one across the
[2:44:56] street of 17 homes. There's not a lot of
[2:44:58] us. We all have 5 to 10 acres. Um, but I
[2:45:04] have my dream place and my dreams are at
[2:45:07] stake here. And um, I hope you realize
[2:45:12] this is dire for us out there. Dire.
[2:45:17] Thank you for hearing me and you'll be
[2:45:19] reading my emails more. Appreciate your
[2:45:21] time. Thank you,
[2:45:23] » Ronnie Kirk.
[2:45:34] My name is Ronnie Kirk.
[2:45:36] My address is 2328
[2:45:39] North Missouri.
[2:45:41] Today I'm here to vent about our
[2:45:45] government
[2:45:47] about all the data centers
[2:45:51] 258
[2:45:56] you know 50 years ago
[2:46:01] I worked at a data center
[2:46:04] had 8,000 people work there
[2:46:08] in 20 years I retired from there
[2:46:12] there was only 20 people that I know
[2:46:17] after the government does so much in
[2:46:19] secrecy
[2:46:21] all these data centers
[2:46:24] you know
[2:46:26] President Lincoln he freed the slaves
[2:46:30] President
[2:46:33] Harry Truman
[2:46:35] president dropped the atomic bomb
[2:46:41] Kennedy
[2:46:43] put the man on the moon.
[2:46:48] All the I mean our government
[2:46:53] in seven years they plan on
[2:46:58] going back to the moon and put habitat
[2:47:01] up there. That's when I think all these
[2:47:04] they need all these plants so when they
[2:47:07] start making stuff at different ones
[2:47:10] they can have a plant a missile launched
[2:47:14] in a month's time.
[2:47:17] So that's why I think
[2:47:20] that they're doing it. I'm getting old
[2:47:22] in my life. I've seen a lot of stuff and
[2:47:26] I believe this is going to happen in
[2:47:29] 2030
[2:47:33] they plan on being on the moon. Thank
[2:47:37] you.
[2:47:39] » Thank you. That concludes citizens to be
[2:47:41] heard which brings us item 14
[2:47:42] adjournment and we are adjourned.