1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,100 >> I'd like to call the meeting to order. Of the 2 00:00:04,100 --> 00:00:06,100 olathe to order for tuesday, november 4, 2025. 3 00:00:06,100 --> 00:00:10,100 >> the first item on the agenda is: is the executive 4 00:00:10,100 --> 00:00:12,100 session. Do I hear a motion. 5 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:17,401 >> mr. Mayor, I move we recess into a executive 6 00:00:18,100 --> 00:00:20,100 session for the: 7 00:00:21,100 --> 00:00:22,100 >> 2(a) executive session: recess into an executive 8 00:00:22,100 --> 00:00:23,100 session for personnel matters of non-elected personnel 9 00:00:23,100 --> 00:00:27,801 regarding the city manager position pursuant to the 10 00:00:29,100 --> 00:00:30,100 exception provided in k.s.a.75-4319(b)(1). 11 00:00:30,100 --> 00:00:32,100 >> for 60 minutes. 12 00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:39,100 >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city 13 00:00:39,100 --> 00:00:40,100 clerk call the roll. 14 00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:41,100 >> mayor bacon, yes. 15 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:42,100 >> councilmember vogt, yes. 16 00:00:42,100 --> 00:00:44,100 >> motion passes. 17 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:51,100 >> 7 zero. 18 00:00:51,100 --> 00:00:53,100 >> (in executive session.) 19 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,100 >> we are reconvening from closed session. 20 00:04:18,100 --> 00:04:19,100 >> a motion will be in order. 21 00:04:19,100 --> 00:04:23,100 >> mr. Mayor, I move we approve the item authorize 22 00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:28,100 staff for the strategy as this directed by the governing 23 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:29,100 body. 24 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:33,100 >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city 25 00:04:33,100 --> 00:04:36,100 clerk call the roll. And councilmember vogt impresses, 26 00:04:36,100 --> 00:04:37,100 yes. 27 00:04:37,100 --> 00:04:39,100 >> councilmember schoonover, yes. 28 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:41,100 >> councilmember vakas, yes. 29 00:04:41,100 --> 00:04:43,100 >> councilmember gilmore, yes. 30 00:04:43,100 --> 00:04:46,100 >> councilmember schoonover motion passes. 7 zero. 31 00:04:49,100 --> 00:04:52,100 >> a motion will be in order. Item b I move we recess 32 00:04:52,100 --> 00:04:55,100 into closed session to discuss: 33 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:57,100 >> 2(b) recess into an executive session to discuss 34 00:04:57,100 --> 00:04:58,100 matters involving multiple city employees pursuant to the 35 00:04:58,100 --> 00:05:02,801 non-elected personnel exception provided in k.s.a. 36 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:06,100 75-4319(b)(1). For 15 minutes. 37 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:07,100 >> second. 38 00:05:07,100 --> 00:05:08,100 >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city 39 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:09,100 clerk call the roll. 40 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:11,100 >> councilmember felter, yes. 41 00:05:12,100 --> 00:05:14,100 >> councilmember vakas, yes. 42 00:05:14,100 --> 00:05:15,100 >> councilmember essex, yes. 43 00:05:15,100 --> 00:05:17,100 >> councilmember schoonover, yes. 44 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:19,100 >> councilmember gilmore, yes. 45 00:05:20,100 --> 00:05:21,100 >> councilmember vogt, yes. 46 00:05:21,100 --> 00:05:23,100 >> mayor bacon, yes. 47 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:25,100 >> motion passes. 7 zero. 48 00:05:31,100 --> 00:05:33,100 >> (in executive session.) 49 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,100 >> we are reconvening from the closed session. Do I 50 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:41,100 hear a motion? 51 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:45,201 >> on item b authorize staff to proceed. 52 00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:47,100 >> second. 53 00:14:47,100 --> 00:14:49,100 >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city 54 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:50,100 clerk call the roll. 55 00:14:50,100 --> 00:14:52,100 >> councilmember gilmore, yes. 56 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:55,100 >> councilmember schoonover, yes. 57 00:14:55,100 --> 00:14:57,100 >> councilmember felter, yes. 58 00:14:57,100 --> 00:14:59,100 >> councilmember vakas, yes. 59 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:00,100 >> councilmember essex, yes. 60 00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:01,100 >> mayor bacon, yes. 61 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:02,100 >> councilmember vogt, yes. 62 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:04,100 >> motion passes. 7 zero. 63 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:06,100 >> yeah. 64 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:23,801 >> we're going to start in 5 minutes - 5 or 65 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:29,100 6 minutes. 66 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:33,201 >> I don't have a timer or anything - 67 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,000 (gavel). 68 00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:43,100 >> good evening and welcome to the city of olathe 69 00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:46,100 city council regular meeting this evening at 5:30pm., 70 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:47,100 tuesday, november 4, 2025. 71 00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:49,100 >> the first item on the agenda is: is the 72 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:51,100 presentation of colors. 73 00:20:52,100 --> 00:20:54,100 >> 4. Presentation of colors: american legion color 74 00:20:54,100 --> 00:21:00,100 guard. Is with us to present the colors and lead us in the 75 00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:04,801 pledge of allegiance. Would everyone please stand. Right 76 00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:38,100 face, post colors. 77 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:40,100 >> and salute. 78 00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:50,100 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of 79 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:51,100 america and to the republic for which it stands, one 80 00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:52,100 nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice 81 00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:53,100 for all. 82 00:21:53,100 --> 00:21:55,100 >> face both right. 83 00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:10,201 >> let's thank the american american legion color 84 00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:30,100 guard for being with us tonight 85 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:32,100 (clapping.) 86 00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:39,100 we'll move to special business next week we'll join the 87 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:44,801 community across america in opportunity to let the 88 00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:51,100 veterans know how much they mean ma especially to say and 89 00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:56,100 you are country and accepting this is a war veteran terry 90 00:22:56,100 --> 00:23:02,601 to introduce him founder of fish and services of heros so, 91 00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:06,100 please come forward. 92 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:08,100 >> present. Halt. 93 00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:19,100 >> thank you. 94 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:28,100 >> my name is paul and - 95 00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:30,100 [off mic.] 96 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:35,100 >> I'm the founder of fish friends and service we're 97 00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:41,100 a nonprofit in olathe provides food and services dogs and 98 00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:48,100 medical equipment and christmas parties to honor a lot of 99 00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:53,401 military kids with $44,000 for double am at the and 100 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:58,100 veterans but today, we're doing this for my friend terry 101 00:23:58,100 --> 00:24:04,601 and terry served in vietnam he served is from 1967 to 72 a 102 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:13,100 special sworn in the infantry and completed the training 103 00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:18,401 advanced training and after a brief 20-day terry deployed 104 00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:30,100 and served with the fit battalion and operating throughout 105 00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:36,100 the central islands the service took him though areas with 106 00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:42,401 the antelope valley and sun valley and july and. 107 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:47,100 >> (calling names.) 108 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:51,801 >> after vietnam terry served as fort hood before 109 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:59,100 running to cancel after the service terry returned back to 110 00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:02,100 the olathe, kansas lived in the area and now he's 111 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:07,100 witnessed a lot of changes here in the hometown in this 112 00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:13,100 community and tera proud supporter of fish and terry I'm 113 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:20,100 glad the city wants to honor you. 114 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:24,201 >> I'll read the proclamation. So the proclamation 115 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:32,100 reads whereas, each year on november 11th we pause to 116 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:39,401 remember those who served in the americans armed services 117 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:44,100 and more than one hundred and fifty thousand veterans call 118 00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:48,100 kansas home and continuing to better our communities with 119 00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:53,100 the service and patriotism. And whereas, on veteran day 120 00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:58,401 we commemorate the sacrifices of your veterans most lost 121 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:06,100 and those who are still with us. And whereas, the city of 122 00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:11,100 olathe will be closed november 11th for the opportunity to 123 00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:16,100 express gratitude to our veterans for the freedom and 124 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:20,801 democracy for the corner of our great nation. 125 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:25,100 >> now therefore, I, mayor john bacon for the city of 126 00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:26,100 olathe do hereby proclaim november 11, 2025, as veterans 127 00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:32,601 day and encouraging all citizens to pause and pay honor to 128 00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:38,100 those who make the world a better and safer place. 129 00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:40,100 >> (clapping) 130 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:54,601 I'm much on speeches I'd like to thank everyone for this 131 00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:02,100 award and I appreciate everything you do and those in the 132 00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:03,100 service good work. Thank you. 133 00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:05,100 (clapping.) 134 00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:39,100 present, halt. 135 00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:44,100 >> order, halt. 136 00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:49,801 >> thanks again to terry for thudding for the 137 00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:56,100 services and all the veterans and honor you this month. 138 00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:59,100 >> we'll move to item b. 139 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:03,201 >> 6(b) recognition of olathe police for kleap 140 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:05,100 accreditation. 141 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:06,100 >> tonight the city of olathe police department is 142 00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:12,100 the first in the state to be accredited by the kleap and 143 00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:18,601 here to present the award have vice and director of the 144 00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:25,100 local training for the state of kansas and the director 145 00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:31,601 for the kleap and captain void will accept this award and 146 00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:37,601 will you all please come forward. 147 00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:40,100 >> you're welcome. 148 00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:51,100 >> thank you. 149 00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:54,100 >> thank you, thank you very much my honor to be 150 00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:59,100 here my own daren the director to have the state of kansas 151 00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:05,100 and another at this time my staff makes fun of me, too. 152 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:09,100 they make fun of me all the time. As a matter of fact, 153 00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:14,100 they tell me I need more than one business card I'm here 154 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:19,401 and oversee a program called the kansas law enforcement 155 00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:22,100 accreditation program, alfred coffee & glossier a state 156 00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:26,801 accreditation program it is designed to honor and 157 00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:34,100 recognize the top agencies in the state and we recognize 158 00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:38,100 that by having created a council and council is made up of 159 00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:43,401 6 people that chiefs and 3 sheriff's and chair and they 160 00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:50,100 decide where the standards are in the agencies will be 161 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:54,100 judged by from tell requirement for law enforcement 162 00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:57,100 agencies to best practices for the law enforcement and 163 00:29:57,100 --> 00:30:01,100 those are the standards those law enforcement officials 164 00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:06,100 say need to be present for every agree that will be an 165 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:10,100 accredited agency for the state of kansas and one hundred 166 00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:15,401 and 67 of those standards. For accreditation we have the 167 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:20,100 kleap accreditation and the the other thing is that is 168 00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:24,100 really that is tough is okay. We have the standard how do 169 00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:29,401 we know those standards are met? Number 1 through policy 170 00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:36,100 but how do know those policies are being followed. This is 171 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:43,201 where the tires meet the road and every agree has to prove 172 00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:49,100 they're people are following the policies. That are have 173 00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:53,100 been established. This is a voluntary program not a 174 00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:57,100 required program we call that regulation. Not a 175 00:30:57,100 --> 00:31:02,100 regulation. It is not a regulated environment because the 176 00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:07,100 chief decided the chief want to step up and say come in 177 00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:13,100 and valve any agency and they starred on the progress 178 00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:19,100 along with a lot of another agencies in the state happened 179 00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:24,100 to finish first in the first ever state accreditation for 180 00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:28,801 an agency not nationally accredited but first ever 181 00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:35,801 accreditation being award backseat by the kleap council 182 00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:41,100 and informed they were able to proof though their 183 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:45,801 satisfaction they meet the standard and award in 10/13, 184 00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:56,100 2025 and present to the police department showing you are 185 00:31:56,100 --> 00:32:00,201 an accredited agency with the kleap council. 186 00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:04,100 >> (clapping) 187 00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:43,100 thank you to terry and courtney and to our. 188 00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:48,100 >> paul for being here and the chief for stepping up 189 00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:54,100 and making olathe first for the state again awesome we're 190 00:32:54,100 --> 00:33:00,100 proud of the police officers. We'll move to the consent 191 00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:02,100 agenda. 192 00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:06,100 >> 7. Consent agenda: the items listed below are 193 00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:07,100 considered to be routine by the city council and may be 194 00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:08,100 approved in one motion. These may include items that have 195 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:12,100 been reviewed by the city council in a prior planning 196 00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:13,100 session. There will be no separate discussion unless 197 00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:19,100 council member requests that an item be removed from the 198 00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:21,100 consent agenda and considered separately. Councilmember 199 00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:22,100 gilmore. 200 00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:23,100 >> item f please. 201 00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:24,100 any others? 202 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:28,801 >> a motion to approve exception of item f. 203 00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:32,100 >> mr. Mayor, I move we approve item as presented 204 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:35,100 with the exception of item f. 205 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:36,100 >> second. 206 00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:39,100 >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city 207 00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,100 clerk call the roll. 208 00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:42,100 >> councilmember essex, yes. 209 00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:44,100 >> councilmember felter, yes. 210 00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:46,100 >> councilmember vakas, yes. 211 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:49,100 >> councilmember vogt, yes. 212 00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:52,100 >> mayor bacon. 213 00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:56,100 >> a motion passes. 7 zero and item f consideration 214 00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:59,100 of the agreement with the project for the design and 215 00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:04,100 fabrication of a sculpture for the 119th street and 216 00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:05,100 roundabout councilmember gilmore. 217 00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:10,401 >> thank you, mayor. I ask to be be considered 218 00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:16,100 separately and impressed my concerns I'll not repeat that 219 00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:18,100 but that's my hope. 220 00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:22,801 >> any other questions or comments? The picture look 221 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:29,100 awesome and looking forward to this - a motion will be in 222 00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:30,100 order. 223 00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:32,100 >> a motion will be in order. 224 00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:33,100 >> mr. Mayor, I move we approve item item f. 225 00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:34,100 >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city 226 00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:35,100 clerk call the roll. 227 00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:37,100 >> councilmember felter, yes. 228 00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:40,100 >> councilmember vakas, yes. 229 00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:41,100 >> councilmember essex, yes. 230 00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:43,100 >> mayor bacon, yes. 231 00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:45,100 >> councilmember vogt, yes. 232 00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:46,100 >> councilmember gilmore, no. 233 00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:48,100 >> you councilmember schoonover, yes. 234 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,100 >> motion passes. 6, one. 235 00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:52,401 >> move to new business. 236 00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:55,100 >> 8(a) new business: consideration of ordinance no. 237 00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:56,100 25-45 authorizing issuance of the city's taxable 238 00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:57,100 industrial revenue bonds in an amount not to exceed 239 00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:01,201 $257,000,000 for red kingfisher, llc (walmart) for the 240 00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:05,100 construction of a 320,000 square foot beef processing and 241 00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:06,100 packaging production facility on approximately 60 acres of 242 00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:12,100 a 138-acre site located near the northwest corner of 167th 243 00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:29,100 street & 169 highways. The city has an intent to issue the 244 00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:33,100 bonds in march of 2023, the building is complete. 245 00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:38,401 >> I've toured that several times and it is amazing 246 00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:43,100 29 the final step any other questions or comments or a 247 00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,100 presentation need own this seeing none. 248 00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:46,100 >> a motion will be in order. 249 00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:50,100 >> mr. Mayor, I move we approve ordinance no. 25-45. 250 00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:51,100 >> second. 251 00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:53,100 >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city 252 00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:54,100 clerk call the roll. 253 00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:56,100 >> councilmember vakas, yes. 254 00:35:58,100 --> 00:35:59,100 >> councilmember felter, yes. 255 00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:00,100 >> mayor bacon, yes. 256 00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:01,100 >> councilmember vogt, yes. 257 00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,100 >> councilmember gilmore, yes. 258 00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:06,100 >> councilmember schoonover, yes. 259 00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:09,601 >> councilmember felter and motion passes. 7 zero 260 00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:12,100 and. 261 00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,100 >> 8(b) consideration of ordinance no. 25-46 262 00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:14,100 approving an engineer?s survey and authorizing the 263 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:15,100 acquisition of land for the I-35 & santa fe interchange 264 00:36:15,100 --> 00:36:18,601 reconstruction/santa fe corridor (ridgeview to 265 00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:33,100 mur-len)improvement project [city project no. 3-c-025-18]. 266 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:38,100 this item are all partial tracks of land for permanent 267 00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:42,201 right-of-way and temporary for the easements for 268 00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,100 reconstruction. 269 00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:51,100 >> I had one quick question I don't know everyone has 270 00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:57,601 a question but rile quick. The parcel on mur-len and sante 271 00:36:58,100 --> 00:36:59,100 fe. 272 00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:05,100 >> right there on the on the northwest in front of the 273 00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:11,100 mcdonald's and I draw this day one of the buses stopped 274 00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:16,100 and it backed up traffic into the intersection will there 275 00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:19,100 be enough room for a bus? 276 00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:25,100 >> I mean partially a popular place to get on a 277 00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:34,201 because of a mcdonald's can be helpful if you have a bus 278 00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:36,100 stop. 279 00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:40,801 >> a city engineer with all the improvements I'll 280 00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:47,100 taking a look at and we don't want it to two close to the 281 00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:49,100 intersection and . 282 00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:52,100 >> that's my own comments. 283 00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:53,100 >> 284 00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:54,100 >> a motion will be in order. 285 00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:58,100 >> mr. Mayor, I move we approve ordinance no. 25-46. 286 00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:59,100 >> second. 287 00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:02,100 >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city 288 00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:03,100 clerk call the roll. 289 00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:05,100 >> councilmember essex, yes. 290 00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:07,100 >> mayor bacon, yes. 291 00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:09,100 >> councilmember vogt, yes. 292 00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:10,100 >> councilmember gilmore, yes. 293 00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:11,100 >> councilmember schoonover, yes. 294 00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:12,100 >> councilmember felter, yes. 295 00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:13,100 >> councilmember vakas, yes. 296 00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:15,100 >> motion passes. 7 zero. 297 00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:17,100 >> move to item 9. 298 00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:22,100 >> 9. General issues and concerns of citizens. We 299 00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:26,100 have several people will have signed up to as we speak 300 00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:28,100 tonight we have the or 10? 301 00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:34,100 >> so at this time ask the city clerk to introduce 302 00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:38,100 our speakers for us. 303 00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:43,100 >> the council has spent this would work in olathe 304 00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:49,100 to address the city council and only address the city 305 00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:53,100 council please treat others with kindness and went and the 306 00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:58,100 council has allocated up to 3 minutes per spectator and up 307 00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:03,401 to 30 minutes since we have 10 minutes 4 minutes each and 308 00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:08,100 the first speaker is a kari. 309 00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:14,100 >> and if you're a speaker, you can come over here 310 00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:18,100 might speed things up a little bit. Welcome, ma'am. 311 00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:23,401 >> hi, I'm carrie. I'm before to present of the 312 00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:38,201 order police and currently a - an olathe resident. The f o 313 00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:44,100 p has come before you in the prior and felt listened to, 314 00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:48,100 supported by the council, we appreciate that. I know in 315 00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:54,601 the past few years brand new station and some really good 316 00:39:55,100 --> 00:40:02,100 measure k unfortunately, I'm here to say - and many of the 317 00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:07,100 people effected but this plan were retired before they 318 00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:12,100 with the got the benefit from the station. I know all of 319 00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:18,100 you are - regarding this and I believe that is what all 320 00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:22,100 the speakers are plan to speak about give you a little bit 321 00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:26,801 of background in 1989, the city decided that employees 322 00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:32,100 will pay individual or family rates for the healthcare 323 00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:35,601 after retirement. This included arriving including 324 00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:44,201 retireed employees to assist as we move into a time when a 325 00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:49,801 - in 2005, that switched at the 3 tiers we're discussing 326 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:57,401 5 and retired before 09. But 4 years to retire or expected 327 00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:13,801 a pay difference increase of only getting individual 328 00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:20,100 retired rate not family having additional - in that 329 00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:24,100 announcement, it specifically said they'll make every 330 00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:28,801 effort to protect the vulnerable for the healthcare 331 00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:33,100 program and the city managers offers will work with the 332 00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:38,100 retirees task force and the employee benefits and the 333 00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:42,801 human services department to investigate that helps to 334 00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:51,401 plan and provide for healthcare costs. For over 20 years 335 00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:56,801 what was in 2005 that includes through the 2008 financial 336 00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:05,100 crisis all the way through the furloughs. In mention of 337 00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:09,100 possible changes let alone this drastic of a change. In 338 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:12,100 preparation for retirement employees meet with the 339 00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:16,201 benefits program manager. Including employees required a 340 00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:21,100 couple of months ago were told in the meetings will 341 00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:27,100 continue to pay rate. (bell ringing) definitely ran out of 342 00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:29,100 time. Thank you. 343 00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:32,601 >> our next speaker a damon bell. 344 00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:42,601 >> you have only 9 speakers. So - you can come on up 345 00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:49,401 here and hello and good evening. I'm speaking regarding 346 00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:54,801 the city of olathe retirement 2026 health insurance and 347 00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:02,100 the hike in the premise and the hardships we are 348 00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:08,100 encouraging paying $82 a month and each and in january of 349 00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:13,401 2026 the monthly amount will go up to $494 each $412 more 350 00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:24,601 a month for each of us. The monthly amount of $494 and 351 00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:30,100 others is very stressful. We received this information 352 00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:35,401 about the 2026, cost increase we're trying to figure out 353 00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:43,100 how we can afford it. With retirement you all set incomes 354 00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:50,100 and our money does not go up and some have additional jobs 355 00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:57,201 and seen such a hike in the health insurance premise we or 356 00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:03,100 worried this hit and my wife and I retire from the olathe 357 00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:09,100 police department and da have lived in the city over 358 00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:13,801 21 years our daughter graduated and our grandchildren the 359 00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:19,100 bells are invested. We love our community and have to pay 360 00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:25,601 off over $1,000 a month to be honest this is scary. And 361 00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:32,401 we're asking for help to make the premium respectfully 362 00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:39,100 damon. 363 00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:41,100 >> (clapping) 364 00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:48,100 our next speaker a gary. 365 00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:54,801 >> good evening, counsel and members here. My name 366 00:44:57,100 --> 00:45:03,100 is gary I started with olathe fire department in 1982 with 367 00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:09,100 two stations. We figured out fires and saved the hospital 368 00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:15,100 and lots of fires. This a job I don't want a 63-year-old 369 00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:22,201 man like myself riding on a fire truck any member of the 370 00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:32,100 fire department we had bad knees and shoulders that is a 371 00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:38,100 tough job I was part of 205 got completely changed because 372 00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:46,801 - my whole retirement plan changed with little notice. 373 00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:54,100 every financial seminar we tenant we got to plan 10 years 374 00:45:55,100 --> 00:46:01,100 in advance or 5 years in advance I had to completely 375 00:46:01,100 --> 00:46:06,100 change. Now this is happening good morning you're up 376 00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:12,100 ending my retirement I may have to look for a full-time 377 00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:21,100 job as you can see under k p and f the first year was the 378 00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:28,100 best year it gets worse and in the and need goals to keep 379 00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:35,201 on pcia things act. Okay. K p and f didn't give my 380 00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:44,401 insurance whereby raised $800 a month that the city is 381 00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:53,100 paying zero for me. Not a thing paying other members in 382 00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:59,100 different plans I'm in the ppo they're paying zero and 383 00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:05,100 other member can be in a long-term two late for me. 384 00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:11,100 >> I can't do that. And to make matters worse people 385 00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:18,100 in washington, d.c. Have everything screwed up I can't 386 00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:24,601 provide - nobody knows so I'm held hostage I don't know 387 00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:33,201 what I'm going to do and something that didn't sneak up on 388 00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:39,100 nobody healthcare is rising should be a long-term plan to 389 00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:44,100 deal with that and now need our reactions what we're going 390 00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:50,100 to do this year. Needs to be planned. Healthcare will 391 00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:53,100 continue to rise and needs to be a long-term plan like any 392 00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:55,100 other financial issues 393 00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:57,100 (bell ringing) 394 00:47:57,100 --> 00:47:58,100 . Thank you. 395 00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:00,100 (clapping.) 396 00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:06,100 the next speaker is tyler. 397 00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:09,601 >> sorry this is a short meeting. 398 00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:22,100 >> tyler west one hundred and 58 place I want to say 399 00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:28,100 good evening, city council thank you for letting me speak 400 00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:33,401 I'm with the firefighters I rise in support of 401 00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:39,201 firefighters who healthcare cost has drastically increased 402 00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:51,100 firefighters work 24 hours and have ready to run in and 403 00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:58,601 help. The oath we take on the first day our police 404 00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:06,100 officers feel the same way with a 36 years with the city 405 00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:13,201 we're told to retire and retires at the age of 58 we have 406 00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:20,100 to find help for medicaid making this designation for the 407 00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:29,100 future employees to work and doesn't come down to pay but 408 00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:33,100 how we're treated after that wards those retirees didn't 409 00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:38,100 have the opportunity for the planning the healthcare costs 410 00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:45,100 and once retired they're on a fixed income we have a have 411 00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:49,100 members can't adjust they're recent changes and have 412 00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:54,100 members not retiring because of those changes and they're 413 00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:59,100 eligible have served the city and we're ready to retire 414 00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:05,601 but - we understand this is not isolated to olathe but 415 00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:13,100 others cities we ask that you remember the years of 416 00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:17,100 service those members provided to our citizens. And to 417 00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:18,100 doing everything we can to support them in retirement.. 418 00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:19,100 thank you. 419 00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:21,100 (clapping). 420 00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:29,100 >> and next speaker is steve. 421 00:50:29,100 --> 00:50:33,801 >> good evening mr. Mayor and councilmembers good to 422 00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:48,100 see you. 423 00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:52,801 >> retire police chief and started with the olathe 424 00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:10,801 police department in 1988. And after 31 years of service, 425 00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:16,401 I retired in april of 2013, and seen this complicated 426 00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:23,100 issue providing healthcare to current employees and to 427 00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:28,100 those who retire from the city services. The retirement 428 00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:33,401 healthcare offered by the city of olathe in 1988 were 429 00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:39,100 impressive and they have employees to remain on the city's 430 00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:44,401 healthcare plan at same rates as current employees that 431 00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:51,601 retire at 65 and at that time the incentives to stay with 432 00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:55,100 the city and into retirement. 433 00:51:55,100 --> 00:52:00,100 >> that was important for public safety were able to 434 00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:06,100 reach the retirement angle in the 60s and other actuaries 435 00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:14,100 of retirement benefits based on the hiring dates and with 436 00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:20,100 each change reducing tells us the year costs creeped up 437 00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:28,100 and with the current employees for healthcare has spiked. 438 00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:34,100 that brings us to the cost of healthcare insurance for 439 00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:37,100 retirees is increasing significantly and 440 00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:39,100 disproportionately in 2026. 441 00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:43,100 >> from current employees to retired employees so 442 00:52:43,100 --> 00:52:48,100 current employees their ability to retire next year will 443 00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:53,100 not happen because of this the constitutional costs in 444 00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:57,100 healthcare insurance offered to retirees. The restored 445 00:52:57,100 --> 00:53:03,601 employees under one plan or tier are now face to face 446 00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:10,601 impacts that are greater. Personally if I stay will go up 447 00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:24,100 up to $31,000 at $39 in 2026 in one year will there by 9 448 00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:33,100 thousand plus for families coverage which is what I have. 449 00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:38,401 that is a .32 percent increase and other retirees are 450 00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:43,100 upwards of hundreds of increases based on the individual 451 00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:49,100 conform and to allow thirty me to wrap up city of olathe 452 00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:53,100 past, present, and future employees are most important 453 00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:56,100 asset to the city and all contributor to the success and 454 00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:59,100 recognize of the city services to our citizens and 455 00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:03,100 businesses. We are setting the standard for excellence for 456 00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:07,801 public services. The budget process for the 2026 retiree 457 00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:14,100 healthcare plans and cost sharing misses the mark. I ask 458 00:54:14,100 --> 00:54:19,100 you look at it and take care of people who served our 459 00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:20,100 city. Thank you. 460 00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:22,100 (clapping). 461 00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:31,100 >> next speaker is bryan. 462 00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:35,801 >> good evening council I'm bryan. I started my 463 00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:44,100 career with the don't recall police department 32 years 464 00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:50,601 you and served in my capacities what brings us here the 465 00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:56,401 employees 2026 plan - that goes against human decency all 466 00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:05,100 the retirees we expected an increase we were told that 467 00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:09,801 last year 50 or 100 percent and 500800 percent in one 468 00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:13,100 year? 469 00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:19,100 >> based on katie - have a reasonable price that is 470 00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:31,401 a sacrifice for the retirees what is the objective? 471 00:55:32,100 --> 00:55:35,100 >> the city has known about the costs going up for 472 00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:41,100 years. And it couldn't increase our rates. I take into 473 00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:49,100 account they reserves for 2026 and the city is proposing 474 00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:53,801 an 8.5 percent increase in the reserves for 2026. That 475 00:55:54,100 --> 00:56:00,100 taking it up to 46 thousand plus. That's an increase over 476 00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:03,100 $4 million from 2025. 477 00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:08,801 >> keeping our promise and doing the right thing 478 00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:14,401 would allow the city three hundred 5 out of reserves. 479 00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:19,100 >> let's talk about the federal government was 480 00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:21,100 already mentioned once. 481 00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:26,100 >> our federal government is shut down on one month 482 00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:33,100 baseline is affordable c.a.r.e. Act the subsidies are not 483 00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:39,100 passed we'll see an increase of 75 up to one hundred and 484 00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:43,801 14 percent. But not 5 hundred and or 800 percent we're 485 00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:55,100 shutting down the country shouldn't be a hard decision to 486 00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:02,100 do the right thing and rethink the massive increases and 487 00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:06,100 the royal out we've received all we want to be treated 488 00:57:06,100 --> 00:57:12,601 right and with human decency and want to thank the ones 489 00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:19,100 that responded back from an e-mail owe sent this means a 490 00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:24,100 lot and olathe has set the standard of conference and all 491 00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:29,100 we're doing is asking you to continue that. Thank you for 492 00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:30,100 your time. 493 00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:32,100 >> (clapping) 494 00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:39,100 next speaker is dawn. 495 00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:44,401 >> I'm dawn and my husband. And for some retirees 496 00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:55,100 they district attorney have a luxury of being healthy 497 00:57:55,100 --> 00:58:00,401 enough for employment. Eventually you run out of things 498 00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:10,100 sacrifice and have a total final collapse it increases the 499 00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:16,401 healthcare costs and last but not least causes hardship 500 00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:23,100 and financial ruin for people that sacrificed and in part 501 00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:28,100 due to a promise that is now being broken. It is hard to 502 00:58:28,100 --> 00:58:33,401 phenomena people that sacrificed can be dismissed and take 503 00:58:35,100 --> 00:58:36,100 advantage of. 504 00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:38,100 >> and though important to know I share the 505 00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:43,100 sentiment in the statement I read the words are where 506 00:58:43,100 --> 00:58:44,100 provided by a retiree that is too ill to be here tonight. 507 00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:45,100 so, thank you. 508 00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:47,100 (clapping.) 509 00:58:58,100 --> 00:59:01,601 the next speaker is todd hart. 510 00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:09,100 >> mr. Mayor I'm todd harriet I started the the fire 511 00:59:13,100 --> 00:59:18,401 department in 1986 and retired in 19 - the e-mails that 512 00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:25,100 people are referencing the attachment I was on the task 513 00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:28,100 force at the time. So the things I want to leave but 514 00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:33,100 tonight is I'm going to make this horticulture but I was 515 00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:39,100 on the task force I took the lead for this personally I 516 00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:44,100 would love to tell you about the ideas we had all the 517 00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:49,100 ideas were presented and could have solved this issue so 518 00:59:49,100 --> 00:59:55,100 we didn't have to be here we had staggering scales and 519 00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:59,100 percentages the employees put towards. And I see some of 520 00:59:59,100 --> 01:00:06,801 the people are retired in this with me well as well and to 521 01:00:07,100 --> 01:00:13,100 get this is personal we gave one hundred and 10 percentage 522 01:00:13,100 --> 01:00:19,100 with the city manager told us no and caused a rifle. I was 523 01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:25,100 the first ever reciprocate of the integrity award I have 524 01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:34,100 to be honest please call me if you have any questions. 525 01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:35,100 thank you. 526 01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:37,100 >> (clapping.) 527 01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:46,401 >> the last speaker a - 528 01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:55,401 >> good evening mr. Mayor and I'm eric I'm the 529 01:00:57,100 --> 01:01:01,100 police officer with the city of olathe and spent the last 530 01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:08,201 35 years of my life and spent time in the military and the 531 01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:15,100 last with the 25 years with the city of olathe I have 532 01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:20,100 awards and with the chiefs association and wards from 533 01:01:20,100 --> 01:01:26,100 individuals and awards and bring those up not to brag 534 01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:31,100 about myself will you every retiree in the room as a 535 01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:35,801 police officer and employee industry stories and employees 536 01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:47,100 like us that help city of olathe into was it guess today. 537 01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:53,100 >> what brought me the director from the last 80s we 538 01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:57,100 want our employees to know we continue to be concerned 539 01:01:57,100 --> 01:02:03,100 about the welfare and happiness and as an employee and the 540 01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:09,100 retirees will pay the same amount as current employees I - 541 01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:19,100 I will going from 10 thousand and now 74 thousand just for 542 01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:25,100 me alone those changes are not consistent what I building 543 01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:30,100 the city of olathe stood for this is a financial and 544 01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:36,100 hardship on every employee that is retired or about to 545 01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:42,100 retire. I've submitted any paperwork and any salary is set 546 01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:48,601 any - I leave - survivor benefits and didn't reduce I 547 01:02:49,100 --> 01:02:55,601 can't change that to be irreversible had I known the city 548 01:02:56,100 --> 01:03:02,100 would have increased my premiums you would have - but 549 01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:07,100 because we had no time to plan I was not able to do this 550 01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:12,100 in the u.s. The police officer I want to spend the time 551 01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:18,100 left with my family not working longer than than expected 552 01:03:18,100 --> 01:03:24,100 to afford medical coverage I have asked the city to honor 553 01:03:24,100 --> 01:03:29,401 they're - by continuing to offer medical benefits we 554 01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:36,601 depend on. Thank you for listening 555 01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:40,100 (clapping.) 556 01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:49,100 thank you to the speakers we hear you and take that under 557 01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:54,100 advisement and any convene a planning session we have 4 558 01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:59,401 reports in our planning session and any councilmember want 559 01:04:00,100 --> 01:04:06,100 to pull any for presentations or from staff at that point? 560 01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:07,100 >> no? 561 01:04:07,100 --> 01:04:09,100 >> 562 01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:13,100 >> 10(a)(1) convene for planning session. Reports: 563 01:04:13,100 --> 01:04:17,801 report regarding proposed amendments to title 12 of the 564 01:04:18,100 --> 01:04:19,100 olathe municipal code pertaining to public utilities. 565 01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:20,100 councilmember gilmore. 566 01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:24,100 >> I ask we have a short presentation to summarize 567 01:04:24,100 --> 01:04:26,100 what we're doing here. 568 01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:28,401 >> what we're doing here. 569 01:04:30,100 --> 01:04:35,401 >> good evening mr. Mayor and city council I'm the 570 01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:50,100 city attorney before this ordinance is intended to address 571 01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:54,100 a couple of issues I've been working through and related 572 01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:59,100 to the public utilities the city manager and as well as 573 01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:04,100 request the rest of engineering the first two section 574 01:05:04,100 --> 01:05:08,201 protect codifying the practice related to utility 575 01:05:10,100 --> 01:05:14,801 easements and codify the right-of-way for easements for 576 01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:20,100 the per city code we have the right-of-way ordinance in 577 01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:23,100 the section but some overwhelms some public utilities 578 01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:28,401 easements and utility easements dedicated to the city not 579 01:05:31,100 --> 01:05:35,100 with the right-of-way we want to codify our approach so 580 01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:41,100 this is clear with for the right-of-way and the post 581 01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:56,100 action to address ongoing issues related to the city 582 01:05:56,100 --> 01:06:02,100 ordinance and now let aab expand on o but essentially we 583 01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:06,100 think to have issues with the utilities trying to look at 584 01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:12,100 their utilities that can result in delays from the start 585 01:06:13,100 --> 01:06:16,100 project and is increase costs to the city. And we have to 586 01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:22,100 do a redesign other complications. So we think that adding 587 01:06:22,100 --> 01:06:28,100 this to the code will again help to establish clear 588 01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:34,100 expectations you may be aware the state law that is really 589 01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:40,100 only intended to address locates in the shovel ready so 590 01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:47,100 contact them involved and calls in 811 and come out and 591 01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:51,100 market but, you know, if you're shovel ready and all of a 592 01:06:51,100 --> 01:06:57,100 sudden figure out there is a bunch of conflicts we have to 593 01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:02,100 contract so mobilize and maybe paying when you can't work. 594 01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:08,100 so we talked about that corporation the oversight and the 595 01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:15,100 staff did tell us addressed this gap in terms of location 596 01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:21,100 of planning purposes and the ordinance we're trying to do 597 01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:26,100 that and the expects have similar to others cities and the 598 01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:32,100 park has about location for planning purposes and is the 599 01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:37,401 responsibility to provide locates so this will fill 3 gap 600 01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:45,100 we have and there is also a provision we had a utility 601 01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:48,100 initially indicate that there is are facilities 602 01:07:48,100 --> 01:07:54,100 unlocateable and turns out what they meant they have to do 603 01:07:54,100 --> 01:08:00,100 more expensive locating them and which they didn't want to 604 01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:07,100 do. But that raised our - what if we have a situation 605 01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:11,100 there is a facility that the utilities can't locate this 606 01:08:11,100 --> 01:08:17,601 could present a risk to the public safety that allows the 607 01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:26,100 city to address the risks. So bob. 608 01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:30,201 >> some languages about penalties explain was that 609 01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:37,100 looks like I'm curious about the process. 610 01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:38,100 >> sure. 611 01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:43,100 >> so it refers to the existing penalties for the 612 01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:48,100 right-of-way I don't have those in front of me but and 613 01:08:48,100 --> 01:08:52,100 then there is also some effective provisions in there. 614 01:08:52,100 --> 01:08:57,100 really intended to address the damages that the city could 615 01:08:57,100 --> 01:09:03,100 incur for the delays. So the cost to make the project 616 01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:04,100 design change. 617 01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:06,100 >> (multiple voices). 618 01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:11,100 >> if someone didn't respond kind and some type of a 619 01:09:11,100 --> 01:09:16,100 penalties are we build it and the city has to pay that. 620 01:09:16,100 --> 01:09:17,100 what's that? 621 01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:21,801 >> we have franchisee agreements with some of the 622 01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:26,801 utilities. The video service providers operate from or 623 01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:36,801 under a - we have some to insure that takes some of the 624 01:09:40,100 --> 01:09:41,100 enforcement. 625 01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:47,100 >> I want to emphasize those are the things we should 626 01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:52,201 protect but we'll have not actually encountered. 627 01:09:55,100 --> 01:09:57,100 >> yes. 628 01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:00,100 >> councilmember vogt. 629 01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:05,401 >> I - so was this part of the problem? 630 01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:12,100 >> I'm thinking back that is the project took 631 01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:18,100 forever and it was related to the utilities and easements 632 01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:20,100 speak to that. 633 01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:25,401 >> thank you city engineer we find with others first 634 01:10:27,100 --> 01:10:32,100 of all, thank bob for working with my staff this is has 635 01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:37,100 been a big issue about 10-year ago we developed a position 636 01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:42,100 just to manage the utilities on our projects because it 637 01:10:42,100 --> 01:10:47,100 was such an issue. But on average we have 25 percent of 638 01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:52,100 utilities respond to 3 request to locate for the planning 639 01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:53,100 purpose. 640 01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:57,100 >> we we need to do is partnership between us and 641 01:10:57,100 --> 01:11:03,100 them we're not facing that looking at change orders to 642 01:11:09,100 --> 01:11:15,100 help us to move along. Right now us begging and trying to 643 01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:19,100 puncture delays design for example, right now have a 644 01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:23,801 project on harold street within resistance road and 6 645 01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:32,801 facilities 23 you're getting 25 percent you know urging to 646 01:11:34,100 --> 01:11:39,100 run both construction issues and that helps us to talking 647 01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:44,100 about with the utilities and encourage them to better 648 01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:45,100 participate. 649 01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:50,100 >> I was confused I'm going I don't want to sign 650 01:11:50,100 --> 01:11:56,100 this. You know. I don't want to provide the utility kind 651 01:11:56,100 --> 01:11:57,100 of. 652 01:11:57,100 --> 01:11:58,100 >> (multiple voices.) 653 01:11:58,100 --> 01:12:01,100 >> and we hope it never gets to that just a 654 01:12:01,100 --> 01:12:02,100 deterrent. 655 01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:07,401 >> and there are state laws and statutes this helps 656 01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:09,100 to enforce that- 657 01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:10,100 >> (multiple voices). 658 01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:14,100 >> bob indicated the state board encourages local 659 01:12:14,100 --> 01:12:20,100 community to adopt this type of policy and I hope we never 660 01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:22,100 get to that; right? 661 01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:24,100 >> yes. 662 01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:25,100 >> councilmember gilmore. 663 01:12:25,100 --> 01:12:29,801 >> with the circulation with the state franchisee do 664 01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:34,100 we participate in revenue off the state? 665 01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:36,100 >> yes. 666 01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:42,100 >> the video service provider the cable franchisees 667 01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:46,801 state franchisees we get 5 percent franchisee fee yeah. 668 01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:55,100 >> we have the ability to if we run into the issues 669 01:12:55,100 --> 01:12:56,100 - 670 01:12:56,100 --> 01:13:00,100 >> the penalties are are referenced in for the 671 01:13:00,100 --> 01:13:04,100 right-of-way management section those are the current 672 01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:09,100 penalties and violation and public offense with the fine 673 01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:16,201 of not less than - so there is a scenario where continue 674 01:13:21,100 --> 01:13:26,401 to pass that 30 days subject to two hundred to $500 675 01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:32,100 penalty we hope didn't come to that. 676 01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:35,100 >> any other questions on that? 677 01:13:37,100 --> 01:13:39,100 >> thank you. 678 01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:42,100 >> thank you. Any other reports? 679 01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:46,201 >> seeing none, we're down to additional items 680 01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:49,100 starting on my right. 681 01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:50,100 >> a councilmember vakas. 682 01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:56,100 >> thank you mr. Mayor I want to bring up scooters we 683 01:13:56,100 --> 01:14:00,100 received information from the navy office we have that in 684 01:14:00,100 --> 01:14:04,100 place and ongoing conversations about what are the right 685 01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:09,401 standards in terms of ordinance and safety and listening 686 01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:17,100 an electronic scooters I ask we follow-up on this perhaps 687 01:14:19,100 --> 01:14:23,100 so we can come together and make decisions and then 688 01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:28,100 whatever the decisions we do make like so have a 689 01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:31,100 conversation how we advertise this is to the public to 690 01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:35,100 make sure they said the expectations for the sake of 691 01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:40,100 safety for all our people and patrolling the I did not 692 01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:45,100 know adults and kids thank you mr. Mayor and a consensus 693 01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:52,100 about some of the people that piped up and where are we at 694 01:14:52,100 --> 01:14:57,100 on this right now maybe sample ordinances from others. 695 01:14:57,100 --> 01:15:00,601 >> assistant city attorney. I appreciate our 696 01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:07,100 comments and questions on this topic. We within our 697 01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:11,100 ordinances are in a good place we want to revisit and make 698 01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:17,100 sure it is in the best possible place I'll be meeting with 699 01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:21,100 the police department and some other cities stakeholders 700 01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:27,100 so see what changes we might make if we determine are 701 01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:32,100 changes sob proposed and bring those back to you to be 702 01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:37,100 considered. And then we do continue to welcome any 703 01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:40,100 questions or comments that you have so we can make sure 704 01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:44,100 that we're adrc them as soon as possible as we see there 705 01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:51,801 are revisions and once we get it set we'll have that - we 706 01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:58,100 thought instead of the education before we are sure what 707 01:15:58,100 --> 01:16:02,100 we want the ordinance to be we want to marry we have that 708 01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:04,100 in place fir. 709 01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:07,100 >> thank you mr. Mayor and bob. 710 01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:12,100 >> we ask we moved with the exponential that also, 711 01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:17,100 we take a look at to our adjacent cities that are making 712 01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:21,100 changes right now and thanks I look forward to hearing 713 01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:22,100 more. 714 01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:23,100 >> thank you, mr. Mayor. 715 01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:27,100 >> skip to this side and then councilmember 716 01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:30,100 schoonover. Go ahead and have your turn right now. 717 01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:33,100 >> I had a follow-up question. 718 01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:35,100 >> go ahead. 719 01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:36,100 >> (multiple voices). 720 01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:38,401 >> we'll do popcorn today. 721 01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:48,801 >> to bob to follow up on how we take a look at I 722 01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:55,100 know overland park and other jurisdictions have amended 723 01:16:55,100 --> 01:16:59,100 they're owners we had a compare and craft where we are now 724 01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:04,100 versus some of the updated ordinances from the sister 725 01:17:04,100 --> 01:17:05,100 jurisdiction. 726 01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:07,100 >> councilmember question a couple of year ago we 727 01:17:07,100 --> 01:17:13,100 got on this issues and with some changes they passed. And 728 01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:18,100 we have continued to monitor with at cities are doing 729 01:17:18,100 --> 01:17:24,100 things you did a couple of years ago so this is the good 730 01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:28,100 news but make sure there is ideas that other cities have 731 01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:33,100 implemented to be incorporated as well so yes, we continue 732 01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:39,100 to monitor and have tdc the most recent cities have 733 01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:44,401 adopted or considered some of those to summarize these. 734 01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:47,100 >> sorry bob. 735 01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:48,100 >> any others? 736 01:17:48,100 --> 01:17:51,601 >> happen election day and yeah. Democracy. 737 01:17:53,100 --> 01:17:55,100 >> councilmember felter. 738 01:17:55,100 --> 01:18:01,100 >> mr. Mayor same thing and thank you for going the 739 01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:11,100 extra mile I heard the election commissioner sherman man 740 01:18:11,100 --> 01:18:16,100 was ousted directing traffic in johnson county the arts 741 01:18:16,100 --> 01:18:22,601 museum. That say can you call wearing many hats to thank 742 01:18:24,100 --> 01:18:27,100 you for him and the team. Thank you. 743 01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:28,100 >> councilmember essex. 744 01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:30,401 >> yes. We're doing this 745 01:18:31,100 --> 01:18:32,100 (laughter). 746 01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:33,100 >> nothing further. 747 01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:35,100 >> okay. 748 01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:41,100 >> councilmember vogt will we address scooters I 749 01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:47,100 hope we address - I think I know that we have an ordinance 750 01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:54,801 in place I know that is super ceded everyone to be a big 751 01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:59,100 part of enforcement that is difficult. So I'll be looking 752 01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:05,100 forward to hearing more about that and some regulating how 753 01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:12,100 fast an, etc. Bike can go where and looking forward to 754 01:19:12,100 --> 01:19:16,100 hearing about education and in person opinion we'll take 755 01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:23,100 to the people instead of them going to a hoa to sign up 756 01:19:23,100 --> 01:19:30,100 and have 10 people were willing to do and I hope we can 757 01:19:30,100 --> 01:19:34,100 look at and and see what we're able to do and the 758 01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:40,601 education part will be the biggest part of it to enforce 759 01:19:42,100 --> 01:19:46,100 when they're going down the street. I look forward to the 760 01:19:46,100 --> 01:19:52,100 final of that and wanted to take a moment to congratulate 761 01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:56,100 the olathe police department for the first law enforcement 762 01:19:56,100 --> 01:20:00,100 agency to earn the accreditation, accreditation is very 763 01:20:00,100 --> 01:20:06,100 important. I have to do with what I do for a living. That 764 01:20:06,100 --> 01:20:09,601 provides reinsurance to our community. Regarding 765 01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:15,201 excellence and accountability an excellent service thank 766 01:20:20,100 --> 01:20:23,100 you, chief and setting the standard for excellence and 767 01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:28,100 veterans we have had one sitting here. Those of us have 768 01:20:28,100 --> 01:20:34,100 family members want to recognize them and all those sworn 769 01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:40,100 and those who wear the uniform today thank you for your 770 01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:44,100 this this is inspiring and councilmember gilmore. 771 01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:48,801 >> mr. Mayor chief I want to express my 772 01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:55,401 congratulations I remember you stood in the podium and 773 01:20:56,100 --> 01:20:59,100 think about all guess things own our played it is not a 774 01:20:59,100 --> 01:21:03,100 one time but congratulations and a lot of work on the part 775 01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:07,100 of you and your team and look forward to great results in 776 01:21:07,100 --> 01:21:08,100 the future. Thank you. 777 01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:09,100 >> thankfully. 778 01:21:09,100 --> 01:21:11,401 >> assistant city attorney sherman. 779 01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:16,100 >> I have a couple of things really quick. One 780 01:21:16,100 --> 01:21:20,100 tomorrow is volunteer reception. So, please join us we'll 781 01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:26,100 have a great time and eat and prayer breakfast on friday 782 01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:32,601 and want to go and talk about councilmember vogt we're off 783 01:21:34,100 --> 01:21:39,100 on veterans day and bring together our veterans to have a 784 01:21:39,100 --> 01:21:43,201 celebration breakfast for them only wednesday morning. 785 01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:49,100 >> where is that at as robison's training. 786 01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:53,100 >> I have one item thank you for those who joined us 787 01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:59,100 for the state of the city on friday at lunch we celebrated 788 01:21:59,100 --> 01:22:02,100 many things happening so thank you, especially to the 789 01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:03,100 (clapping) 790 01:22:03,100 --> 01:22:09,100 for hosting this event and this year did an awesome job 791 01:22:09,100 --> 01:22:15,601 and happen election voting day. I told a story last time 792 01:22:16,100 --> 01:22:22,601 about a great nephew thought his dad tell him going to 793 01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:29,100 vote. He thought they were going boating he was crying. 794 01:22:33,100 --> 01:22:37,100 >> voting is not for everybody especially, if you're 795 01:22:37,100 --> 01:22:44,801 only 3 but no way it's it is what it is for tonight thank 796 01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:48,100 you for joining we we're adjourned. 797 01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:50,100 [meeting adjourned]