[0:01] >> I'd like to call the meeting to order. Of the
[0:04] olathe to order for tuesday, november 4, 2025.
[0:06] >> the first item on the agenda is: is the executive
[0:10] session. Do I hear a motion.
[0:12] >> mr. Mayor, I move we recess into a executive
[0:18] session for the:
[0:21] >> 2(a) executive session: recess into an executive
[0:22] session for personnel matters of non-elected personnel
[0:23] regarding the city manager position pursuant to the
[0:29] exception provided in k.s.a.75-4319(b)(1).
[0:30] >> for 60 minutes.
[0:36] >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city
[0:39] clerk call the roll.
[0:40] >> mayor bacon, yes.
[0:41] >> councilmember vogt, yes.
[0:42] >> motion passes.
[0:49] >> 7 zero.
[0:51] >> (in executive session.)
[4:15] >> we are reconvening from closed session.
[4:18] >> a motion will be in order.
[4:19] >> mr. Mayor, I move we approve the item authorize
[4:23] staff for the strategy as this directed by the governing
[4:28] body.
[4:29] >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city
[4:33] clerk call the roll. And councilmember vogt impresses,
[4:36] yes.
[4:37] >> councilmember schoonover, yes.
[4:40] >> councilmember vakas, yes.
[4:41] >> councilmember gilmore, yes.
[4:43] >> councilmember schoonover motion passes. 7 zero.
[4:49] >> a motion will be in order. Item b I move we recess
[4:52] into closed session to discuss:
[4:56] >> 2(b) recess into an executive session to discuss
[4:57] matters involving multiple city employees pursuant to the
[4:58] non-elected personnel exception provided in k.s.a.
[5:05] 75-4319(b)(1). For 15 minutes.
[5:06] >> second.
[5:07] >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city
[5:08] clerk call the roll.
[5:09] >> councilmember felter, yes.
[5:12] >> councilmember vakas, yes.
[5:14] >> councilmember essex, yes.
[5:15] >> councilmember schoonover, yes.
[5:17] >> councilmember gilmore, yes.
[5:20] >> councilmember vogt, yes.
[5:21] >> mayor bacon, yes.
[5:23] >> motion passes. 7 zero.
[5:31] >> (in executive session.)
[14:36] >> we are reconvening from the closed session. Do I
[14:40] hear a motion?
[14:41] >> on item b authorize staff to proceed.
[14:46] >> second.
[14:47] >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city
[14:49] clerk call the roll.
[14:50] >> councilmember gilmore, yes.
[14:53] >> councilmember schoonover, yes.
[14:55] >> councilmember felter, yes.
[14:57] >> councilmember vakas, yes.
[14:59] >> councilmember essex, yes.
[15:00] >> mayor bacon, yes.
[15:01] >> councilmember vogt, yes.
[15:02] >> motion passes. 7 zero.
[15:04] >> yeah.
[15:19] >> we're going to start in 5 minutes - 5 or
[15:28] 6 minutes.
[15:29] >> I don't have a timer or anything -
[20:40] (gavel).
[20:42] >> good evening and welcome to the city of olathe
[20:43] city council regular meeting this evening at 5:30pm.,
[20:46] tuesday, november 4, 2025.
[20:47] >> the first item on the agenda is: is the
[20:49] presentation of colors.
[20:52] >> 4. Presentation of colors: american legion color
[20:54] guard. Is with us to present the colors and lead us in the
[21:00] pledge of allegiance. Would everyone please stand. Right
[21:36] face, post colors.
[21:38] >> and salute.
[21:49] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of
[21:50] america and to the republic for which it stands, one
[21:51] nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice
[21:52] for all.
[21:53] >> face both right.
[22:06] >> let's thank the american american legion color
[22:28] guard for being with us tonight
[22:30] (clapping.)
[22:33] we'll move to special business next week we'll join the
[22:40] community across america in opportunity to let the
[22:46] veterans know how much they mean ma especially to say and
[22:51] you are country and accepting this is a war veteran terry
[22:56] to introduce him founder of fish and services of heros so,
[23:05] please come forward.
[23:06] >> present. Halt.
[23:17] >> thank you.
[23:25] >> my name is paul and -
[23:28] [off mic.]
[23:32] >> I'm the founder of fish friends and service we're
[23:35] a nonprofit in olathe provides food and services dogs and
[23:42] medical equipment and christmas parties to honor a lot of
[23:48] military kids with $44,000 for double am at the and
[23:54] veterans but today, we're doing this for my friend terry
[23:58] and terry served in vietnam he served is from 1967 to 72 a
[24:08] special sworn in the infantry and completed the training
[24:13] advanced training and after a brief 20-day terry deployed
[24:25] and served with the fit battalion and operating throughout
[24:30] the central islands the service took him though areas with
[24:37] the antelope valley and sun valley and july and.
[24:45] >> (calling names.)
[24:47] >> after vietnam terry served as fort hood before
[24:53] running to cancel after the service terry returned back to
[24:59] the olathe, kansas lived in the area and now he's
[25:02] witnessed a lot of changes here in the hometown in this
[25:07] community and tera proud supporter of fish and terry I'm
[25:17] glad the city wants to honor you.
[25:20] >> I'll read the proclamation. So the proclamation
[25:26] reads whereas, each year on november 11th we pause to
[25:34] remember those who served in the americans armed services
[25:41] and more than one hundred and fifty thousand veterans call
[25:44] kansas home and continuing to better our communities with
[25:48] the service and patriotism. And whereas, on veteran day
[25:53] we commemorate the sacrifices of your veterans most lost
[25:59] and those who are still with us. And whereas, the city of
[26:06] olathe will be closed november 11th for the opportunity to
[26:11] express gratitude to our veterans for the freedom and
[26:16] democracy for the corner of our great nation.
[26:24] >> now therefore, I, mayor john bacon for the city of
[26:25] olathe do hereby proclaim november 11, 2025, as veterans
[26:26] day and encouraging all citizens to pause and pay honor to
[26:33] those who make the world a better and safer place.
[26:38] >> (clapping)
[26:48] I'm much on speeches I'd like to thank everyone for this
[26:57] award and I appreciate everything you do and those in the
[27:02] service good work. Thank you.
[27:03] (clapping.)
[27:37] present, halt.
[27:42] >> order, halt.
[27:45] >> thanks again to terry for thudding for the
[27:51] services and all the veterans and honor you this month.
[27:56] >> we'll move to item b.
[27:59] >> 6(b) recognition of olathe police for kleap
[28:04] accreditation.
[28:05] >> tonight the city of olathe police department is
[28:06] the first in the state to be accredited by the kleap and
[28:12] here to present the award have vice and director of the
[28:21] local training for the state of kansas and the director
[28:25] for the kleap and captain void will accept this award and
[28:34] will you all please come forward.
[28:38] >> you're welcome.
[28:49] >> thank you.
[28:52] >> thank you, thank you very much my honor to be
[28:54] here my own daren the director to have the state of kansas
[28:59] and another at this time my staff makes fun of me, too.
[29:05] they make fun of me all the time. As a matter of fact,
[29:09] they tell me I need more than one business card I'm here
[29:14] and oversee a program called the kansas law enforcement
[29:21] accreditation program, alfred coffee & glossier a state
[29:22] accreditation program it is designed to honor and
[29:30] recognize the top agencies in the state and we recognize
[29:34] that by having created a council and council is made up of
[29:38] 6 people that chiefs and 3 sheriff's and chair and they
[29:44] decide where the standards are in the agencies will be
[29:50] judged by from tell requirement for law enforcement
[29:54] agencies to best practices for the law enforcement and
[29:57] those are the standards those law enforcement officials
[30:01] say need to be present for every agree that will be an
[30:06] accredited agency for the state of kansas and one hundred
[30:10] and 67 of those standards. For accreditation we have the
[30:16] kleap accreditation and the the other thing is that is
[30:20] really that is tough is okay. We have the standard how do
[30:24] we know those standards are met? Number 1 through policy
[30:30] but how do know those policies are being followed. This is
[30:36] where the tires meet the road and every agree has to prove
[30:45] they're people are following the policies. That are have
[30:49] been established. This is a voluntary program not a
[30:53] required program we call that regulation. Not a
[30:57] regulation. It is not a regulated environment because the
[31:02] chief decided the chief want to step up and say come in
[31:07] and valve any agency and they starred on the progress
[31:15] along with a lot of another agencies in the state happened
[31:19] to finish first in the first ever state accreditation for
[31:24] an agency not nationally accredited but first ever
[31:31] accreditation being award backseat by the kleap council
[31:36] and informed they were able to proof though their
[31:41] satisfaction they meet the standard and award in 10/13,
[31:52] 2025 and present to the police department showing you are
[31:56] an accredited agency with the kleap council.
[32:02] >> (clapping)
[32:39] thank you to terry and courtney and to our.
[32:43] >> paul for being here and the chief for stepping up
[32:48] and making olathe first for the state again awesome we're
[32:54] proud of the police officers. We'll move to the consent
[33:00] agenda.
[33:05] >> 7. Consent agenda: the items listed below are
[33:06] considered to be routine by the city council and may be
[33:07] approved in one motion. These may include items that have
[33:08] been reviewed by the city council in a prior planning
[33:12] session. There will be no separate discussion unless
[33:13] council member requests that an item be removed from the
[33:20] consent agenda and considered separately. Councilmember
[33:21] gilmore.
[33:22] >> item f please.
[33:23] any others?
[33:24] >> a motion to approve exception of item f.
[33:31] >> mr. Mayor, I move we approve item as presented
[33:32] with the exception of item f.
[33:35] >> second.
[33:36] >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city
[33:39] clerk call the roll.
[33:40] >> councilmember essex, yes.
[33:43] >> councilmember felter, yes.
[33:44] >> councilmember vakas, yes.
[33:47] >> councilmember vogt, yes.
[33:51] >> mayor bacon.
[33:52] >> a motion passes. 7 zero and item f consideration
[33:56] of the agreement with the project for the design and
[33:59] fabrication of a sculpture for the 119th street and
[34:04] roundabout councilmember gilmore.
[34:05] >> thank you, mayor. I ask to be be considered
[34:11] separately and impressed my concerns I'll not repeat that
[34:16] but that's my hope.
[34:18] >> any other questions or comments? The picture look
[34:25] awesome and looking forward to this - a motion will be in
[34:29] order.
[34:30] >> a motion will be in order.
[34:32] >> mr. Mayor, I move we approve item item f.
[34:33] >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city
[34:34] clerk call the roll.
[34:35] >> councilmember felter, yes.
[34:39] >> councilmember vakas, yes.
[34:40] >> councilmember essex, yes.
[34:41] >> mayor bacon, yes.
[34:43] >> councilmember vogt, yes.
[34:45] >> councilmember gilmore, no.
[34:46] >> you councilmember schoonover, yes.
[34:48] >> motion passes. 6, one.
[34:50] >> move to new business.
[34:54] >> 8(a) new business: consideration of ordinance no.
[34:55] 25-45 authorizing issuance of the city's taxable
[34:56] industrial revenue bonds in an amount not to exceed
[34:57] $257,000,000 for red kingfisher, llc (walmart) for the
[35:04] construction of a 320,000 square foot beef processing and
[35:05] packaging production facility on approximately 60 acres of
[35:06] a 138-acre site located near the northwest corner of 167th
[35:25] street & 169 highways. The city has an intent to issue the
[35:29] bonds in march of 2023, the building is complete.
[35:33] >> I've toured that several times and it is amazing
[35:39] 29 the final step any other questions or comments or a
[35:43] presentation need own this seeing none.
[35:45] >> a motion will be in order.
[35:46] >> mr. Mayor, I move we approve ordinance no. 25-45.
[35:50] >> second.
[35:51] >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city
[35:53] clerk call the roll.
[35:54] >> councilmember vakas, yes.
[35:58] >> councilmember felter, yes.
[35:59] >> mayor bacon, yes.
[36:00] >> councilmember vogt, yes.
[36:01] >> councilmember gilmore, yes.
[36:04] >> councilmember schoonover, yes.
[36:06] >> councilmember felter and motion passes. 7 zero
[36:11] and.
[36:12] >> 8(b) consideration of ordinance no. 25-46
[36:13] approving an engineer?s survey and authorizing the
[36:14] acquisition of land for the I-35 & santa fe interchange
[36:15] reconstruction/santa fe corridor (ridgeview to
[36:32] mur-len)improvement project [city project no. 3-c-025-18].
[36:33] this item are all partial tracks of land for permanent
[36:38] right-of-way and temporary for the easements for
[36:45] reconstruction.
[36:47] >> I had one quick question I don't know everyone has
[36:51] a question but rile quick. The parcel on mur-len and sante
[36:58] fe.
[36:59] >> right there on the on the northwest in front of the
[37:05] mcdonald's and I draw this day one of the buses stopped
[37:11] and it backed up traffic into the intersection will there
[37:16] be enough room for a bus?
[37:19] >> I mean partially a popular place to get on a
[37:27] because of a mcdonald's can be helpful if you have a bus
[37:35] stop.
[37:36] >> a city engineer with all the improvements I'll
[37:41] taking a look at and we don't want it to two close to the
[37:47] intersection and .
[37:50] >> that's my own comments.
[37:52] >>
[37:53] >> a motion will be in order.
[37:54] >> mr. Mayor, I move we approve ordinance no. 25-46.
[37:58] >> second.
[37:59] >> we have a motion and a second. Would the city
[38:02] clerk call the roll.
[38:03] >> councilmember essex, yes.
[38:06] >> mayor bacon, yes.
[38:07] >> councilmember vogt, yes.
[38:09] >> councilmember gilmore, yes.
[38:10] >> councilmember schoonover, yes.
[38:11] >> councilmember felter, yes.
[38:12] >> councilmember vakas, yes.
[38:13] >> motion passes. 7 zero.
[38:15] >> move to item 9.
[38:21] >> 9. General issues and concerns of citizens. We
[38:22] have several people will have signed up to as we speak
[38:26] tonight we have the or 10?
[38:28] >> so at this time ask the city clerk to introduce
[38:36] our speakers for us.
[38:38] >> the council has spent this would work in olathe
[38:43] to address the city council and only address the city
[38:50] council please treat others with kindness and went and the
[38:53] council has allocated up to 3 minutes per spectator and up
[38:58] to 30 minutes since we have 10 minutes 4 minutes each and
[39:06] the first speaker is a kari.
[39:08] >> and if you're a speaker, you can come over here
[39:14] might speed things up a little bit. Welcome, ma'am.
[39:18] >> hi, I'm carrie. I'm before to present of the
[39:31] order police and currently a - an olathe resident. The f o
[39:39] p has come before you in the prior and felt listened to,
[39:44] supported by the council, we appreciate that. I know in
[39:48] the past few years brand new station and some really good
[39:55] measure k unfortunately, I'm here to say - and many of the
[40:02] people effected but this plan were retired before they
[40:07] with the got the benefit from the station. I know all of
[40:12] you are - regarding this and I believe that is what all
[40:18] the speakers are plan to speak about give you a little bit
[40:22] of background in 1989, the city decided that employees
[40:27] will pay individual or family rates for the healthcare
[40:32] after retirement. This included arriving including
[40:37] retireed employees to assist as we move into a time when a
[40:45] - in 2005, that switched at the 3 tiers we're discussing
[40:52] 5 and retired before 09. But 4 years to retire or expected
[41:09] a pay difference increase of only getting individual
[41:15] retired rate not family having additional - in that
[41:20] announcement, it specifically said they'll make every
[41:24] effort to protect the vulnerable for the healthcare
[41:29] program and the city managers offers will work with the
[41:33] retirees task force and the employee benefits and the
[41:38] human services department to investigate that helps to
[41:46] plan and provide for healthcare costs. For over 20 years
[41:52] what was in 2005 that includes through the 2008 financial
[41:59] crisis all the way through the furloughs. In mention of
[42:05] possible changes let alone this drastic of a change. In
[42:09] preparation for retirement employees meet with the
[42:12] benefits program manager. Including employees required a
[42:18] couple of months ago were told in the meetings will
[42:21] continue to pay rate. (bell ringing) definitely ran out of
[42:28] time. Thank you.
[42:29] >> our next speaker a damon bell.
[42:36] >> you have only 9 speakers. So - you can come on up
[42:44] here and hello and good evening. I'm speaking regarding
[42:50] the city of olathe retirement 2026 health insurance and
[42:57] the hike in the premise and the hardships we are
[43:02] encouraging paying $82 a month and each and in january of
[43:08] 2026 the monthly amount will go up to $494 each $412 more
[43:18] a month for each of us. The monthly amount of $494 and
[43:27] others is very stressful. We received this information
[43:30] about the 2026, cost increase we're trying to figure out
[43:37] how we can afford it. With retirement you all set incomes
[43:43] and our money does not go up and some have additional jobs
[43:50] and seen such a hike in the health insurance premise we or
[43:58] worried this hit and my wife and I retire from the olathe
[44:03] police department and da have lived in the city over
[44:09] 21 years our daughter graduated and our grandchildren the
[44:14] bells are invested. We love our community and have to pay
[44:19] off over $1,000 a month to be honest this is scary. And
[44:27] we're asking for help to make the premium respectfully
[44:38] damon.
[44:39] >> (clapping)
[44:45] our next speaker a gary.
[44:50] >> good evening, counsel and members here. My name
[44:57] is gary I started with olathe fire department in 1982 with
[45:04] two stations. We figured out fires and saved the hospital
[45:09] and lots of fires. This a job I don't want a 63-year-old
[45:15] man like myself riding on a fire truck any member of the
[45:26] fire department we had bad knees and shoulders that is a
[45:32] tough job I was part of 205 got completely changed because
[45:42] - my whole retirement plan changed with little notice.
[45:48] every financial seminar we tenant we got to plan 10 years
[45:55] in advance or 5 years in advance I had to completely
[46:01] change. Now this is happening good morning you're up
[46:06] ending my retirement I may have to look for a full-time
[46:12] job as you can see under k p and f the first year was the
[46:21] best year it gets worse and in the and need goals to keep
[46:28] on pcia things act. Okay. K p and f didn't give my
[46:39] insurance whereby raised $800 a month that the city is
[46:47] paying zero for me. Not a thing paying other members in
[46:53] different plans I'm in the ppo they're paying zero and
[46:59] other member can be in a long-term two late for me.
[47:05] >> I can't do that. And to make matters worse people
[47:12] in washington, d.c. Have everything screwed up I can't
[47:18] provide - nobody knows so I'm held hostage I don't know
[47:26] what I'm going to do and something that didn't sneak up on
[47:35] nobody healthcare is rising should be a long-term plan to
[47:39] deal with that and now need our reactions what we're going
[47:44] to do this year. Needs to be planned. Healthcare will
[47:50] continue to rise and needs to be a long-term plan like any
[47:53] other financial issues
[47:56] (bell ringing)
[47:57] . Thank you.
[47:58] (clapping.)
[48:03] the next speaker is tyler.
[48:06] >> sorry this is a short meeting.
[48:16] >> tyler west one hundred and 58 place I want to say
[48:23] good evening, city council thank you for letting me speak
[48:28] I'm with the firefighters I rise in support of
[48:35] firefighters who healthcare cost has drastically increased
[48:45] firefighters work 24 hours and have ready to run in and
[48:52] help. The oath we take on the first day our police
[49:01] officers feel the same way with a 36 years with the city
[49:06] we're told to retire and retires at the age of 58 we have
[49:14] to find help for medicaid making this designation for the
[49:23] future employees to work and doesn't come down to pay but
[49:29] how we're treated after that wards those retirees didn't
[49:33] have the opportunity for the planning the healthcare costs
[49:38] and once retired they're on a fixed income we have a have
[49:45] members can't adjust they're recent changes and have
[49:49] members not retiring because of those changes and they're
[49:54] eligible have served the city and we're ready to retire
[49:59] but - we understand this is not isolated to olathe but
[50:09] others cities we ask that you remember the years of
[50:13] service those members provided to our citizens. And to
[50:17] doing everything we can to support them in retirement..
[50:18] thank you.
[50:19] (clapping).
[50:27] >> and next speaker is steve.
[50:29] >> good evening mr. Mayor and councilmembers good to
[50:47] see you.
[50:48] >> retire police chief and started with the olathe
[51:06] police department in 1988. And after 31 years of service,
[51:11] I retired in april of 2013, and seen this complicated
[51:20] issue providing healthcare to current employees and to
[51:23] those who retire from the city services. The retirement
[51:28] healthcare offered by the city of olathe in 1988 were
[51:34] impressive and they have employees to remain on the city's
[51:39] healthcare plan at same rates as current employees that
[51:45] retire at 65 and at that time the incentives to stay with
[51:52] the city and into retirement.
[51:55] >> that was important for public safety were able to
[52:00] reach the retirement angle in the 60s and other actuaries
[52:08] of retirement benefits based on the hiring dates and with
[52:14] each change reducing tells us the year costs creeped up
[52:24] and with the current employees for healthcare has spiked.
[52:28] that brings us to the cost of healthcare insurance for
[52:34] retirees is increasing significantly and
[52:37] disproportionately in 2026.
[52:39] >> from current employees to retired employees so
[52:43] current employees their ability to retire next year will
[52:48] not happen because of this the constitutional costs in
[52:53] healthcare insurance offered to retirees. The restored
[52:57] employees under one plan or tier are now face to face
[53:04] impacts that are greater. Personally if I stay will go up
[53:18] up to $31,000 at $39 in 2026 in one year will there by 9
[53:27] thousand plus for families coverage which is what I have.
[53:33] that is a .32 percent increase and other retirees are
[53:39] upwards of hundreds of increases based on the individual
[53:43] conform and to allow thirty me to wrap up city of olathe
[53:49] past, present, and future employees are most important
[53:53] asset to the city and all contributor to the success and
[53:56] recognize of the city services to our citizens and
[53:59] businesses. We are setting the standard for excellence for
[54:03] public services. The budget process for the 2026 retiree
[54:08] healthcare plans and cost sharing misses the mark. I ask
[54:14] you look at it and take care of people who served our
[54:19] city. Thank you.
[54:20] (clapping).
[54:30] >> next speaker is bryan.
[54:31] >> good evening council I'm bryan. I started my
[54:41] career with the don't recall police department 32 years
[54:44] you and served in my capacities what brings us here the
[54:51] employees 2026 plan - that goes against human decency all
[54:59] the retirees we expected an increase we were told that
[55:05] last year 50 or 100 percent and 500800 percent in one
[55:11] year?
[55:13] >> based on katie - have a reasonable price that is
[55:26] a sacrifice for the retirees what is the objective?
[55:32] >> the city has known about the costs going up for
[55:35] years. And it couldn't increase our rates. I take into
[55:44] account they reserves for 2026 and the city is proposing
[55:49] an 8.5 percent increase in the reserves for 2026. That
[55:54] taking it up to 46 thousand plus. That's an increase over
[56:01] $4 million from 2025.
[56:04] >> keeping our promise and doing the right thing
[56:09] would allow the city three hundred 5 out of reserves.
[56:15] >> let's talk about the federal government was
[56:19] already mentioned once.
[56:21] >> our federal government is shut down on one month
[56:26] baseline is affordable c.a.r.e. Act the subsidies are not
[56:33] passed we'll see an increase of 75 up to one hundred and
[56:39] 14 percent. But not 5 hundred and or 800 percent we're
[56:49] shutting down the country shouldn't be a hard decision to
[56:58] do the right thing and rethink the massive increases and
[57:02] the royal out we've received all we want to be treated
[57:06] right and with human decency and want to thank the ones
[57:13] that responded back from an e-mail owe sent this means a
[57:19] lot and olathe has set the standard of conference and all
[57:24] we're doing is asking you to continue that. Thank you for
[57:29] your time.
[57:30] >> (clapping)
[57:37] next speaker is dawn.
[57:39] >> I'm dawn and my husband. And for some retirees
[57:50] they district attorney have a luxury of being healthy
[57:55] enough for employment. Eventually you run out of things
[58:04] sacrifice and have a total final collapse it increases the
[58:11] healthcare costs and last but not least causes hardship
[58:17] and financial ruin for people that sacrificed and in part
[58:23] due to a promise that is now being broken. It is hard to
[58:28] phenomena people that sacrificed can be dismissed and take
[58:35] advantage of.
[58:36] >> and though important to know I share the
[58:38] sentiment in the statement I read the words are where
[58:43] provided by a retiree that is too ill to be here tonight.
[58:44] so, thank you.
[58:45] (clapping.)
[58:58] the next speaker is todd hart.
[59:03] >> mr. Mayor I'm todd harriet I started the the fire
[59:13] department in 1986 and retired in 19 - the e-mails that
[59:21] people are referencing the attachment I was on the task
[59:25] force at the time. So the things I want to leave but
[59:28] tonight is I'm going to make this horticulture but I was
[59:33] on the task force I took the lead for this personally I
[59:39] would love to tell you about the ideas we had all the
[59:44] ideas were presented and could have solved this issue so
[59:49] we didn't have to be here we had staggering scales and
[59:55] percentages the employees put towards. And I see some of
[59:59] the people are retired in this with me well as well and to
[1:00:07] get this is personal we gave one hundred and 10 percentage
[1:00:13] with the city manager told us no and caused a rifle. I was
[1:00:19] the first ever reciprocate of the integrity award I have
[1:00:33] to be honest please call me if you have any questions.
[1:00:34] thank you.
[1:00:35] >> (clapping.)
[1:00:44] >> the last speaker a -
[1:00:50] >> good evening mr. Mayor and I'm eric I'm the
[1:00:57] police officer with the city of olathe and spent the last
[1:01:01] 35 years of my life and spent time in the military and the
[1:01:09] last with the 25 years with the city of olathe I have
[1:01:15] awards and with the chiefs association and wards from
[1:01:20] individuals and awards and bring those up not to brag
[1:01:27] about myself will you every retiree in the room as a
[1:01:31] police officer and employee industry stories and employees
[1:01:41] like us that help city of olathe into was it guess today.
[1:01:47] >> what brought me the director from the last 80s we
[1:01:54] want our employees to know we continue to be concerned
[1:01:57] about the welfare and happiness and as an employee and the
[1:02:03] retirees will pay the same amount as current employees I -
[1:02:13] I will going from 10 thousand and now 74 thousand just for
[1:02:21] me alone those changes are not consistent what I building
[1:02:25] the city of olathe stood for this is a financial and
[1:02:30] hardship on every employee that is retired or about to
[1:02:36] retire. I've submitted any paperwork and any salary is set
[1:02:42] any - I leave - survivor benefits and didn't reduce I
[1:02:49] can't change that to be irreversible had I known the city
[1:02:56] would have increased my premiums you would have - but
[1:03:02] because we had no time to plan I was not able to do this
[1:03:07] in the u.s. The police officer I want to spend the time
[1:03:12] left with my family not working longer than than expected
[1:03:18] to afford medical coverage I have asked the city to honor
[1:03:24] they're - by continuing to offer medical benefits we
[1:03:33] depend on. Thank you for listening
[1:03:38] (clapping.)
[1:03:44] thank you to the speakers we hear you and take that under
[1:03:49] advisement and any convene a planning session we have 4
[1:03:54] reports in our planning session and any councilmember want
[1:04:00] to pull any for presentations or from staff at that point?
[1:04:06] >> no?
[1:04:07] >>
[1:04:12] >> 10(a)(1) convene for planning session. Reports:
[1:04:13] report regarding proposed amendments to title 12 of the
[1:04:18] olathe municipal code pertaining to public utilities.
[1:04:19] councilmember gilmore.
[1:04:20] >> I ask we have a short presentation to summarize
[1:04:24] what we're doing here.
[1:04:26] >> what we're doing here.
[1:04:30] >> good evening mr. Mayor and city council I'm the
[1:04:46] city attorney before this ordinance is intended to address
[1:04:50] a couple of issues I've been working through and related
[1:04:54] to the public utilities the city manager and as well as
[1:04:59] request the rest of engineering the first two section
[1:05:04] protect codifying the practice related to utility
[1:05:10] easements and codify the right-of-way for easements for
[1:05:15] the per city code we have the right-of-way ordinance in
[1:05:20] the section but some overwhelms some public utilities
[1:05:23] easements and utility easements dedicated to the city not
[1:05:31] with the right-of-way we want to codify our approach so
[1:05:35] this is clear with for the right-of-way and the post
[1:05:51] action to address ongoing issues related to the city
[1:05:56] ordinance and now let aab expand on o but essentially we
[1:06:02] think to have issues with the utilities trying to look at
[1:06:06] their utilities that can result in delays from the start
[1:06:13] project and is increase costs to the city. And we have to
[1:06:16] do a redesign other complications. So we think that adding
[1:06:22] this to the code will again help to establish clear
[1:06:28] expectations you may be aware the state law that is really
[1:06:34] only intended to address locates in the shovel ready so
[1:06:41] contact them involved and calls in 811 and come out and
[1:06:47] market but, you know, if you're shovel ready and all of a
[1:06:51] sudden figure out there is a bunch of conflicts we have to
[1:06:57] contract so mobilize and maybe paying when you can't work.
[1:07:02] so we talked about that corporation the oversight and the
[1:07:09] staff did tell us addressed this gap in terms of location
[1:07:15] of planning purposes and the ordinance we're trying to do
[1:07:21] that and the expects have similar to others cities and the
[1:07:26] park has about location for planning purposes and is the
[1:07:32] responsibility to provide locates so this will fill 3 gap
[1:07:39] we have and there is also a provision we had a utility
[1:07:45] initially indicate that there is are facilities
[1:07:48] unlocateable and turns out what they meant they have to do
[1:07:54] more expensive locating them and which they didn't want to
[1:08:00] do. But that raised our - what if we have a situation
[1:08:07] there is a facility that the utilities can't locate this
[1:08:11] could present a risk to the public safety that allows the
[1:08:22] city to address the risks. So bob.
[1:08:26] >> some languages about penalties explain was that
[1:08:35] looks like I'm curious about the process.
[1:08:37] >> sure.
[1:08:38] >> so it refers to the existing penalties for the
[1:08:43] right-of-way I don't have those in front of me but and
[1:08:48] then there is also some effective provisions in there.
[1:08:52] really intended to address the damages that the city could
[1:08:57] incur for the delays. So the cost to make the project
[1:09:03] design change.
[1:09:04] >> (multiple voices).
[1:09:06] >> if someone didn't respond kind and some type of a
[1:09:11] penalties are we build it and the city has to pay that.
[1:09:16] what's that?
[1:09:17] >> we have franchisee agreements with some of the
[1:09:22] utilities. The video service providers operate from or
[1:09:29] under a - we have some to insure that takes some of the
[1:09:40] enforcement.
[1:09:41] >> I want to emphasize those are the things we should
[1:09:48] protect but we'll have not actually encountered.
[1:09:55] >> yes.
[1:09:58] >> councilmember vogt.
[1:10:00] >> I - so was this part of the problem?
[1:10:09] >> I'm thinking back that is the project took
[1:10:12] forever and it was related to the utilities and easements
[1:10:19] speak to that.
[1:10:20] >> thank you city engineer we find with others first
[1:10:27] of all, thank bob for working with my staff this is has
[1:10:32] been a big issue about 10-year ago we developed a position
[1:10:37] just to manage the utilities on our projects because it
[1:10:42] was such an issue. But on average we have 25 percent of
[1:10:47] utilities respond to 3 request to locate for the planning
[1:10:52] purpose.
[1:10:53] >> we we need to do is partnership between us and
[1:10:57] them we're not facing that looking at change orders to
[1:11:09] help us to move along. Right now us begging and trying to
[1:11:15] puncture delays design for example, right now have a
[1:11:19] project on harold street within resistance road and 6
[1:11:28] facilities 23 you're getting 25 percent you know urging to
[1:11:34] run both construction issues and that helps us to talking
[1:11:39] about with the utilities and encourage them to better
[1:11:44] participate.
[1:11:45] >> I was confused I'm going I don't want to sign
[1:11:50] this. You know. I don't want to provide the utility kind
[1:11:56] of.
[1:11:57] >> (multiple voices.)
[1:11:58] >> and we hope it never gets to that just a
[1:12:01] deterrent.
[1:12:02] >> and there are state laws and statutes this helps
[1:12:08] to enforce that-
[1:12:09] >> (multiple voices).
[1:12:10] >> bob indicated the state board encourages local
[1:12:14] community to adopt this type of policy and I hope we never
[1:12:20] get to that; right?
[1:12:22] >> yes.
[1:12:24] >> councilmember gilmore.
[1:12:25] >> with the circulation with the state franchisee do
[1:12:31] we participate in revenue off the state?
[1:12:34] >> yes.
[1:12:38] >> the video service provider the cable franchisees
[1:12:42] state franchisees we get 5 percent franchisee fee yeah.
[1:12:50] >> we have the ability to if we run into the issues
[1:12:55] -
[1:12:56] >> the penalties are are referenced in for the
[1:13:00] right-of-way management section those are the current
[1:13:04] penalties and violation and public offense with the fine
[1:13:09] of not less than - so there is a scenario where continue
[1:13:21] to pass that 30 days subject to two hundred to $500
[1:13:29] penalty we hope didn't come to that.
[1:13:32] >> any other questions on that?
[1:13:37] >> thank you.
[1:13:41] >> thank you. Any other reports?
[1:13:42] >> seeing none, we're down to additional items
[1:13:47] starting on my right.
[1:13:49] >> a councilmember vakas.
[1:13:50] >> thank you mr. Mayor I want to bring up scooters we
[1:13:56] received information from the navy office we have that in
[1:14:00] place and ongoing conversations about what are the right
[1:14:04] standards in terms of ordinance and safety and listening
[1:14:11] an electronic scooters I ask we follow-up on this perhaps
[1:14:19] so we can come together and make decisions and then
[1:14:23] whatever the decisions we do make like so have a
[1:14:28] conversation how we advertise this is to the public to
[1:14:31] make sure they said the expectations for the sake of
[1:14:35] safety for all our people and patrolling the I did not
[1:14:40] know adults and kids thank you mr. Mayor and a consensus
[1:14:45] about some of the people that piped up and where are we at
[1:14:52] on this right now maybe sample ordinances from others.
[1:14:57] >> assistant city attorney. I appreciate our
[1:15:03] comments and questions on this topic. We within our
[1:15:07] ordinances are in a good place we want to revisit and make
[1:15:11] sure it is in the best possible place I'll be meeting with
[1:15:17] the police department and some other cities stakeholders
[1:15:21] so see what changes we might make if we determine are
[1:15:27] changes sob proposed and bring those back to you to be
[1:15:32] considered. And then we do continue to welcome any
[1:15:37] questions or comments that you have so we can make sure
[1:15:40] that we're adrc them as soon as possible as we see there
[1:15:44] are revisions and once we get it set we'll have that - we
[1:15:53] thought instead of the education before we are sure what
[1:15:58] we want the ordinance to be we want to marry we have that
[1:16:02] in place fir.
[1:16:04] >> thank you mr. Mayor and bob.
[1:16:07] >> we ask we moved with the exponential that also,
[1:16:12] we take a look at to our adjacent cities that are making
[1:16:17] changes right now and thanks I look forward to hearing
[1:16:21] more.
[1:16:22] >> thank you, mr. Mayor.
[1:16:23] >> skip to this side and then councilmember
[1:16:27] schoonover. Go ahead and have your turn right now.
[1:16:30] >> I had a follow-up question.
[1:16:34] >> go ahead.
[1:16:35] >> (multiple voices).
[1:16:36] >> we'll do popcorn today.
[1:16:41] >> to bob to follow up on how we take a look at I
[1:16:51] know overland park and other jurisdictions have amended
[1:16:55] they're owners we had a compare and craft where we are now
[1:16:59] versus some of the updated ordinances from the sister
[1:17:04] jurisdiction.
[1:17:05] >> councilmember question a couple of year ago we
[1:17:07] got on this issues and with some changes they passed. And
[1:17:13] we have continued to monitor with at cities are doing
[1:17:18] things you did a couple of years ago so this is the good
[1:17:24] news but make sure there is ideas that other cities have
[1:17:28] implemented to be incorporated as well so yes, we continue
[1:17:33] to monitor and have tdc the most recent cities have
[1:17:39] adopted or considered some of those to summarize these.
[1:17:45] >> sorry bob.
[1:17:47] >> any others?
[1:17:48] >> happen election day and yeah. Democracy.
[1:17:53] >> councilmember felter.
[1:17:55] >> mr. Mayor same thing and thank you for going the
[1:18:06] extra mile I heard the election commissioner sherman man
[1:18:11] was ousted directing traffic in johnson county the arts
[1:18:16] museum. That say can you call wearing many hats to thank
[1:18:24] you for him and the team. Thank you.
[1:18:27] >> councilmember essex.
[1:18:28] >> yes. We're doing this
[1:18:31] (laughter).
[1:18:32] >> nothing further.
[1:18:33] >> okay.
[1:18:38] >> councilmember vogt will we address scooters I
[1:18:41] hope we address - I think I know that we have an ordinance
[1:18:47] in place I know that is super ceded everyone to be a big
[1:18:55] part of enforcement that is difficult. So I'll be looking
[1:18:59] forward to hearing more about that and some regulating how
[1:19:07] fast an, etc. Bike can go where and looking forward to
[1:19:12] hearing about education and in person opinion we'll take
[1:19:16] to the people instead of them going to a hoa to sign up
[1:19:23] and have 10 people were willing to do and I hope we can
[1:19:30] look at and and see what we're able to do and the
[1:19:34] education part will be the biggest part of it to enforce
[1:19:42] when they're going down the street. I look forward to the
[1:19:46] final of that and wanted to take a moment to congratulate
[1:19:52] the olathe police department for the first law enforcement
[1:19:56] agency to earn the accreditation, accreditation is very
[1:20:00] important. I have to do with what I do for a living. That
[1:20:06] provides reinsurance to our community. Regarding
[1:20:11] excellence and accountability an excellent service thank
[1:20:20] you, chief and setting the standard for excellence and
[1:20:23] veterans we have had one sitting here. Those of us have
[1:20:28] family members want to recognize them and all those sworn
[1:20:34] and those who wear the uniform today thank you for your
[1:20:40] this this is inspiring and councilmember gilmore.
[1:20:44] >> mr. Mayor chief I want to express my
[1:20:50] congratulations I remember you stood in the podium and
[1:20:56] think about all guess things own our played it is not a
[1:20:59] one time but congratulations and a lot of work on the part
[1:21:03] of you and your team and look forward to great results in
[1:21:07] the future. Thank you.
[1:21:08] >> thankfully.
[1:21:09] >> assistant city attorney sherman.
[1:21:12] >> I have a couple of things really quick. One
[1:21:16] tomorrow is volunteer reception. So, please join us we'll
[1:21:20] have a great time and eat and prayer breakfast on friday
[1:21:26] and want to go and talk about councilmember vogt we're off
[1:21:34] on veterans day and bring together our veterans to have a
[1:21:39] celebration breakfast for them only wednesday morning.
[1:21:45] >> where is that at as robison's training.
[1:21:49] >> I have one item thank you for those who joined us
[1:21:53] for the state of the city on friday at lunch we celebrated
[1:21:59] many things happening so thank you, especially to the
[1:22:02] (clapping)
[1:22:03] for hosting this event and this year did an awesome job
[1:22:09] and happen election voting day. I told a story last time
[1:22:16] about a great nephew thought his dad tell him going to
[1:22:23] vote. He thought they were going boating he was crying.
[1:22:33] >> voting is not for everybody especially, if you're
[1:22:37] only 3 but no way it's it is what it is for tonight thank
[1:22:47] you for joining we we're adjourned.
[1:22:48] [meeting adjourned]