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allegiance.

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america and to the republic, for

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which it stands, one nation,

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under god, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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>> we begin and acknowledge we

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have a quorum of planning

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commissioners present with seven

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of nine commissioners in

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seeling were unable to join this

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chamber and watching online for

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attending this meeting.

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planning commission meetings are

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a important part of the process

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for interpreting and applying

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conducted with dignity and

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respect and applies to every

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person in attendance.

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we strive to provide where ideas

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the actions are ultimately under

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the responsibility of the city

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council.

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be fully informed so they can

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by statute, the planning

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commission strives not to engage

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with any parties with the issue

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prior to the meeting.

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commissioners will report that

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interaction when we reach that

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item in the agenda.

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we'll move to the consents

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agenda.

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this evening we have four items

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consent agenda items are listed

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planning commission and may be

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approved in one motion.

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any of these issue and no

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discussion unless an item is

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commissioners anything that

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>> mr. Chairman, I like to pull

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commissioner bergida pulled item

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>> thank you mr. Chair.

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quick question for staff.

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the project in entirety, and

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if I entertain a motion, please.

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when a continuance is scheduled,

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comments, recommendations or

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analysis on the cases are not

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provided for or discussed until

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the public hearing takes place.

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this process insures anyone

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each one and a continuance is

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rezoning applications, I will

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opportunity since we recently

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subject properties that we are

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current market we are seeing

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less office development, so over

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comprehensive plan.

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comprehensive plan over two year

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period, very extensive community

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refined land use plan, place

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making opportunities and some of

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higher density housing that

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transition to surrounding

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neighborhoods.

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these were talked about in the

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comprehensive plan update and in

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the document.

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we are talking about this area

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mixed use.

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mix of uses really.

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so, just one thing to note, this

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is the only area out of all

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these brown shaded mix of use

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areas that already has active

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recent construction, or

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developments reviewing through

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the construction process.

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already has development

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approvals and now going through

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building permit review, so we

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see it as somewhat unique that

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developments started prior to

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plan adoption and then when you

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get to the other subareas, those

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could have approved

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developments, but not actively

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under construction now.

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getting closer to the property,

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mixed use.

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so, we'll get into the specific

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of the development cases but you

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see referenced on the screen and

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location in the mixed use area.

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what mixed use means is, looking

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at stratified uses, so mix of

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residential, commercial,

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employment opportunities within

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a larger development area, often

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pedestrian oriented design so

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meant to integrate transition

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between the land uses.

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we also added a vertical mix use

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overlay in the comprehensive

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plan.

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these are areas where vertical

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mixed use, so commercial ground

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floor with residential or office

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above is encouraged by the

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comprehensive plan.

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we know over time we will

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continue to evaluate this

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overlay.

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there is portions of it that

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have already been through the

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development process here.

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but this is another layer of the

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case subarea.

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so, really I want to hone in on

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this concept plan briefly.

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there were two different

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development teams that worked on

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this together.

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this is somewhat unique and do

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not see this all the time.

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we have two development teams

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submit around the same time, go

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through the development review

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process together, coordinate

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with staff back and forth on

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changes to the plan and really

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did joint neighborhood meeting,

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which we'll highlight later, so

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it is somewhat unique and really

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these two cases are interrelated

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in how they relate to the

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comprehensive plan.

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they are inner-dependent with

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each other to align with the

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comprehensive plan so talked

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about the development teams you

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need to progress together.

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they are more then willing to

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work through the development

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process so that unique aspect I

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wanted to highlight.

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finally I want to talk why we

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are here.

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we will be honing on the zoning

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district.

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so, two things we look at are

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zoning and preliminary plan.

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with the zoning district we are

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looking at conformance with the

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comprehensive plan, land use

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analysis, dimensional standards.

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both of the development teams

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submitted conceptual plan.

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there is a process where it

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comes back through, revised

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preliminary plan which the

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planning commission is familiar

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with and you see it another

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time.

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to make sure it conforms with

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all the udl requirements and

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gets the full vetting so honing

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in on the zoning district

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related.

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that is just a brief overview.

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wanted to talk about really

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ahead of getting into the

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development applications.

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I will turn it over right array

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to mrs. Vande velde to talk

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about the request for college

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and sunnybrook commercial

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development southwest of college

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and lone elm.

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>> thank you, kim.

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mrs. Vande velde.

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>> thank you.

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taylor vande velde, planner 2.

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this is a request for rezoning

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for rz26-0009 to rezone 11 acres

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shaded in yellow to the c2

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commercial district, which

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includes a conceptual

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preliminary site development

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plan for a commercial

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development located southwest of

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college and lone elm on the

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screen.

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as kim mentioned, the applicant

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is working with the adjacent

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residential application shaded

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just directly south of the

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property to create a more

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connected and mixed use

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development to align with the

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future land use map we just went

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through.

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the subject property does front

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college boulevard as shown on

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the screen, and the same

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developer has recently worked to

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develop this site in conjunction

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with the previously approved

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dillans grocery to the east.

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the proposal is continuation of

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the complementary commercial

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uses, including restaurants, a

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bank and conceptual retail as

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well.

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the existing zoning is bp

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business district, which allows

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for various office and light

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industrial uses, such as office

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and light manufacturing and flex

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spaces.

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the applicant is requesting to

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rezone to the c2, commercial

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district to allow more

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commercial uses that better

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align with the recent dylan

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rezoning and development to the

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east.

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staff is recommending several

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land use restrictions with which

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mostly align with the restricted

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uses from the recent dillans

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rezoning.

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in addition to several more

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intense uses that conflict with

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the future land use designation.

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the applicant is agreeable with

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the recommended list.

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the site is designated mixed use

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and vertical mixed use hatched

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in black near college boulevard.

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as designated on the elevate

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olathe future land use map.

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this brings together mix of

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commercial uses in connection

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with the residential to the

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south, meeting the mixed use

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designation.

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while the proposal does not

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align directly with the

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preferred vertical mixed use,

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the requested c2 district and

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conceptual plan provided this

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evening does align with several

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key strategies of the elevate

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olathe comprehensive plan

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related to land use and econom

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ic development to encourage

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density and provide neighborhood

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commercial as well.

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the applicant have worked

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together to provide overall

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concept plan, which kim just

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shared.

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this plan provides shared

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amenities such as a public plaza

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area shown on the screen, as

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well as a shared trail

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connection connecting from the

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existing meadow lane trail to

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sunnybrook boulevard.

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so, the developer for this

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application provided a

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conceptual plan, which shows

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four commercial buildings along

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college and sunnybrook

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boulevard.

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the plan also has three proposed

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access drives off sunnybrook

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boulevard as well as internal

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connection connecting to the

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south.

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all of which meet the city

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access management plan.

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as this is conceptual to

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establish zoning as kim

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mentioned, no wavers are

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necessary at this time and

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revised preliminary site

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development plan will be

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required to further evaluate the

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additional site details.

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the applicant met all public

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notice requirements, including a

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neighborhood meeting.

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as the request of staff, the

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applicant held a joint meeting

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with the residential

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application.

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well attended with approximately

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50 attendees.

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topics related to this specific

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case including traffic, access,

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timeline and other similar

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questions, which the applicant

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responded to during the meeting.

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no additional correspondence

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received related to this

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specific case.

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staff does recommend approval of

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the requested c2 zoning district

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with the restricted uses listed

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here, as well as stipulation

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requiring the revised

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preliminary plan.

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the case will proceed to the

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september 15 city council

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meeting and the applicant will

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provide a brief presentation as

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well.

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>> is the applicant doing a

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presentation?

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>> yes.

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>> state your name for the

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record.

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my name is melissa with rouse

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frets white located at 5250 west

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116 place, suite 400, leewood

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kansas here on behalf of my

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client atwater group to present.

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with me today is my partner

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greg.

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sonny cardamore the purchaser

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and developer of the property

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and tom barnes civil engineer.

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this request involves

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approximately 11 acres of

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college and sunnybrook from the

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recently approved dillons store.

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the application here is brought

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by the same developer as the

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dillons store and the

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application is for the

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commercial lots only and

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separate from the adjacent

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multi-family that follows.

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as staff mentioned, the property

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is currently zoned bp business

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park and proposed to be rezoned

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to c2 community center.

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the rezoning is consistent with

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it dillons grocery store and

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shops at sunnybrook.

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the concept plan will provide

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for traditional complement ary

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retail service uses, and the

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preliminary final plan will be

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to follow.

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by way of background, staff

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covered some of this, but it has

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been zoned as business park for

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over 25 years.

598
00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:29,100
the time has taken quite a while

599
00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:30,100
to develop this particular site,

600
00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:32,100
despite development nearby and

601
00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:34,100
active efforts to market it.

602
00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:36,100
it is a challenging site with

603
00:20:36,100 --> 00:20:38,100
significant slope and rock,

604
00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:41,100
which I just made into one word.

605
00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:44,100
the site has also been planned

606
00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:46,100
along with the dillons grocery

607
00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:48,401
store to be complementary

608
00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:51,100
out-lots you would see to serve

609
00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:53,100
the same users as the dillons

610
00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:54,100
grocery store.

611
00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:56,100
however, the dillons was planned

612
00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:59,100
under the old comprehensive plan

613
00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:05,100
and the adoption of elevate

614
00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:06,100
olathe these have been caught in

615
00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:09,100
the change of the plan.

616
00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:15,100
the concept plan reflects the

617
00:21:15,100 --> 00:21:17,100
small scale commercial uses

618
00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:18,100
which are supported by the

619
00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:20,100
comprehensive plan as well.

620
00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:23,100
we worked with staff to both

621
00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:25,100
improve walkability and

622
00:21:25,100 --> 00:21:27,100
compatibility to bridge the

623
00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:28,100
difference between the site

624
00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:30,100
design standards of the dillons

625
00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:32,401
and this particular site.

626
00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:36,100
the neighboring properties,

627
00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:38,100
largely commercial and

628
00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:39,100
institutional.

629
00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:41,100
across college boulevard is the

630
00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:43,100
institutional uses.

631
00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:46,100
olathe campus.

632
00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:48,100
to the east will be the dillons

633
00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:49,100
and fuel center.

634
00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:51,100
to the west is meadow lane trail

635
00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:53,100
and residential homes.

636
00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:56,100
on the other side of this tree

637
00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:59,100
buffer here, and to the south is

638
00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:01,100
the proposal that is before you

639
00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:04,100
tonight after this one for

640
00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,100
multifamily.

641
00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:07,100
through the concept plan you can

642
00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:09,100
see there are two single story

643
00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,401
buildings that are fronting

644
00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:14,100
along college boulevard and two

645
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:15,100
additional buildings proposed

646
00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:16,100
further south.

647
00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:18,100
anticipated uses may involve a

648
00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:20,100
quick serve restaurant,

649
00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:22,401
financial institution, sit down

650
00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:24,100
restaurant, medical or dental

651
00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:26,100
services and other retail and

652
00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:28,100
service uses, depending on

653
00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:30,100
market demand.

654
00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:31,100
you can also see that the

655
00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:33,100
stormwater detention has been

656
00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:34,100
proposed on the west side to

657
00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:36,100
provide more separation from

658
00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:38,100
residential as well.

659
00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:40,100
importantly, the plan is refined

660
00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:42,100
through coordination with staff,

661
00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:44,100
including moving the buildings

662
00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:46,100
closer to college boulevard and

663
00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:48,100
creating a plaza seating area

664
00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:50,100
between the buildings.

665
00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:53,100
you can see little more about

666
00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:56,100
how the buildings have been

667
00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:57,100
brought forward here to be

668
00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:59,100
consistent with other uses along

669
00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:01,100
college boulevard and that is

670
00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:02,100
further refined through the

671
00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:03,100
preliminary plan process.

672
00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:05,100
this just shows more about the

673
00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:07,100
natural buffer between the

674
00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:09,100
properties to the west and this

675
00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:10,100
property with that significant

676
00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:13,601
tree line and trail, which will

677
00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:15,100
be preserved to the extent

678
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:17,100
possible and tree preservation

679
00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:18,100
plan and more detailed

680
00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:20,100
stormwater facilities provided

681
00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:23,100
at the preliminary plan stage.

682
00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:25,100
there has been professional

683
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:27,100
traffic study submitted and

684
00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:29,100
reviewed by city olathe traffic

685
00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:31,100
division.

686
00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:33,100
the sunnybrook boulevard will be

687
00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:35,100
extended to provide access to

688
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:37,100
the site at the developer

689
00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:38,100
expense.

690
00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:39,100
meets the city access management

691
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:41,100
plan and no additional roadway

692
00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:43,100
improvements are required.

693
00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:44,100
these are some conceptual

694
00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:46,100
elevations, again further

695
00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:47,100
refined as it goes through the

696
00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:49,100
process of the preliminary plan,

697
00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:51,100
but it has been designed to be

698
00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:52,100
consistent with the look and

699
00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:54,100
feel of the dillons site as

700
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:56,100
well.

701
00:23:56,100 --> 00:23:58,100
the property meets the criteria

702
00:23:58,100 --> 00:24:00,100
for rezoning.

703
00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:03,100
it meets the comprehensive plan

704
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:04,100
preferred small scale commercial

705
00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:05,100
uses.

706
00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:07,100
it is compatible with the

707
00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:10,100
surrounding zoning and land use

708
00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:12,100
and more suitable for the long

709
00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:14,100
vacant site then the current bp

710
00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:15,100
zoning.

711
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:17,100
the buildings will be consistent

712
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:19,100
with neighboring buildings and

713
00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:21,100
should fit well with the shops

714
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:23,100
at sunnybrook.

715
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:25,100
this is appropriate practical

716
00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:27,100
rezoning, it supports the

717
00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:28,100
billons and helps to bring

718
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:31,100
commercial uses to along vacant

719
00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:32,100
site.

720
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:33,100
appreciate staff recommendation

721
00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:34,100
of approval.

722
00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:36,100
we agree to the stipulations and

723
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:37,100
we thank you for your time.

724
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:39,100
we are happy to answer any

725
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:40,100
questions you have this evening.

726
00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:41,100
thank you.

727
00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:44,100
>> thank you for being here.

728
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:46,100
commissioners, do you have any

729
00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:47,100
questions for staff or the

730
00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:49,401
applicant on this issue?

731
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:51,100
commissioner bergida.

732
00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:52,100
>> thank you mr. Chairman.

733
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:55,100
seems like a great project.

734
00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:58,100
what does changing it to

735
00:24:58,100 --> 00:24:59,100
commercial allow you all to do

736
00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:02,100
with your current plans that you

737
00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:03,100
can't currently do under

738
00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:04,100
business park?

739
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:06,100
>> the business park has very

740
00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:09,100
limited retail and service uses

741
00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:10,100
that are permitted.

742
00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:11,100
I think staff can go into more

743
00:25:11,100 --> 00:25:13,100
detail, but really business park

744
00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:16,100
is meant more for-it is a light

745
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:18,100
industrial employment center

746
00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:20,100
kind of use, so it is really

747
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:22,100
typically more manufacturing,

748
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:25,100
assembly, those type of light

749
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:27,100
industrial with a little office

750
00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:29,100
and the retail and service is

751
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:32,601
really just a side note where

752
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:35,100
certain amounts that can be

753
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:37,100
included, but not the focus of

754
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:38,100
the district.

755
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:39,100
>> it isn't necessarily design

756
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:41,100
requirements, but usage

757
00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:43,100
requirements, correct?

758
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:45,100
>> I think it is combination,

759
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:46,100
but the dillons site we were

760
00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:49,100
asked to rezone that and have

761
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:51,100
continued to do the exact same

762
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:52,100
zoning for this one.

763
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:53,100
it is also consistent with

764
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,100
several other of the lots along

765
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:57,100
the shops sunnybrook as well.

766
00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:59,100
there is a portion of it that is

767
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,100
still bp but a lot have been

768
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:03,100
rezoned to c2 as well.

769
00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:05,100
>> thank you.

770
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,100
>> any additional questions?

771
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:10,100
commissioner terrones.

772
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:11,100
>> thank you for your

773
00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:12,100
presentation.

774
00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:14,100
just a quick question.

775
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:16,100
this new development won't cause

776
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:19,100
a delay in the construction of

777
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:20,100
the dillons store?

778
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:21,100
>> no.

779
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:23,100
it has been planned all along

780
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:25,100
alongside the dillons.

781
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:29,100
it is actually part of the same

782
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:30,100
development through the same

783
00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:32,100
developer so approval will not

784
00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:33,100
delay dillons.

785
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:34,100
>> thank you.

786
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:35,100
>> you're welcome;

787
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:37,100
>> any additional questions from

788
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:39,100
commissioners?

789
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:41,100
thank you for being here.

790
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,100
>> thank you.

791
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:45,100
>> we'll move to the public

792
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:46,100
hearing and I open the public

793
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:47,100
hearing.

794
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,100
for this public hearing, we

795
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:52,100
don't have anybody signed up.

796
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:55,601
I will now close the public

797
00:26:57,100 --> 00:26:58,100
hearing.

798
00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:00,100
if I can have a motion, please.

799
00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:01,100
>> so moved.

800
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:02,100
>> thank you commissioner

801
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:03,100
bergida.

802
00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:04,100
second?

803
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:05,100
>> second.

804
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:06,100
>> thank you commissioner breen.

805
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:07,100
all those in favor closing the

806
00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:09,100
public hearing say aye.

807
00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:11,100
>> aye.

808
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:12,100
>> opposed, nay.

809
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:14,100
passes 7-0.

810
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:16,100
is there any additional

811
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:19,100
discussion needed for this item?

812
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,100
if not, I call for a motion on

813
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,100
rz26-0009.

814
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:27,100
>> mr. Chair, I move for the

815
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:30,601
approval of rz26-0009 with all

816
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:34,100
stipulations as recommended by

817
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:35,100
staff.

818
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:36,100
>> thank you commissioner

819
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:37,100
bergida.

820
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:38,100
second?

821
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:39,100
>> second.

822
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:40,100
>> thank you commissioner

823
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:41,100
terrones.

824
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:43,100
mrs. Will, if you will, please.

825
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:45,100
[roll call]

826
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:54,100
>> motion passes 7-0.

827
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:57,100
>> okay.

828
00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:58,100
moving to the 6 and final public

829
00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:59,100
hearing.

830
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:00,100
request for approval of rezoning

831
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:02,100
for college and sunnybrook

832
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:04,100
multifamily located southwest of

833
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:06,100
college and south valley

834
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:07,100
boulevard.

835
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:09,100
mrs. Vande velde will present

836
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:11,100
the case.

837
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:24,100
>> okay.

838
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:25,100
thank you.

839
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:26,100
good evening.

840
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:28,401
taylor vande velde planner 2.

841
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:31,401
continuation of the discussion,

842
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:36,601
request to rezone rz26-0006 to

843
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:39,401
rezone 20 acres to r3

844
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:42,100
residential district with a

845
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:44,100
conceptual plan for multifamily

846
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:46,100
development southwest of college

847
00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:48,100
and lone elm.

848
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:51,100
the site is located just south

849
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:53,100
of the previously presented

850
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:55,100
commercial application along

851
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:57,100
sunnybrook boulevard.

852
00:28:57,100 --> 00:29:00,100
the site is also zoned to the

853
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:01,100
bp, business district, which

854
00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:03,100
allows for the same uses I

855
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:04,100
mentioned before.

856
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:06,100
office, warehouses, light

857
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:07,100
manufacturing and flex spaces,

858
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:09,100
which are permitted by right.

859
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:11,100
the surrounding area developed

860
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:13,100
with a mix of commercial and

861
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:15,100
residential zoning districts,

862
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:17,100
including single family,

863
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:19,401
duplexes and are attach

864
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,100
multifamily providing variety of

865
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:24,100
land uses around the surrounding

866
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:25,100
area.

867
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:28,100
the existing bp zoning district

868
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:30,100
is higher intensity district and

869
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:32,100
permits buildings up to 12

870
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:34,100
stories and no longer compatible

871
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:36,100
with how the area has developed

872
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:38,401
out in recent years.

873
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:43,100
that shows all the existing

874
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:45,100
zoning districts and the

875
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:47,100
requested district.

876
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:52,100
rezone to r3, low density

877
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:53,100
multifamily district to allow

878
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,100
the construction of 333

879
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:57,401
residential units with density

880
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:00,401
of 16.65 dwelling units per

881
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,100
acre, which permitted in the

882
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:06,601
third column of the r3 district.

883
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:10,100
the site is also designated as

884
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:12,100
mixed use on the elevate olathe

885
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:15,100
future land use map which

886
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,100
includes commercial and

887
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:20,100
residential use.

888
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:22,100
the proposal aligns with mixed

889
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,100
use designation supporting

890
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:28,100
apartments and townhomes in a

891
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:30,100
pedestrian oriented development

892
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:32,100
as well.

893
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:34,100
more specifically, this area is

894
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:37,100
identified in the subarea plan

895
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:41,100
of the elevate olathe

896
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:42,100
comprehensive plan as a

897
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:43,100
opportunity site, which

898
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:45,100
prescribes commercial near

899
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:47,100
college and supports denser

900
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:50,100
housing types such as multi-plex

901
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:52,100
and apartments more internal to

902
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:54,100
the site behind the commercial,

903
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:55,100
which this proposal also aligns

904
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:57,100
with.

905
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:58,100
the development is also

906
00:30:58,100 --> 00:30:59,100
connecting to the meadow lane

907
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,100
trail, which is in direct

908
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:03,100
alignment with the trails and

909
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:05,100
greenways plan as well as the

910
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:07,401
comprehensive plan as well.

911
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:12,100
the requested r3 district also

912
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:14,100
meets several policies of the

913
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:16,100
comprehensive plan by supporting

914
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:17,100
a range of housing options with

915
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:20,100
the apartments and townhomes in

916
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:23,401
close proximity to commercial

917
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:27,100
service and provided appropriate

918
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:28,100
transition to the residential

919
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:30,100
uses.

920
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:33,100
the overall plan we have seen

921
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:35,100
before, but more specifically to

922
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:38,100
this site, it is providing quite

923
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:40,100
a few pedestrian connections and

924
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:43,100
public amenity spaces as well.

925
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:44,100
as shown here.

926
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:45,100
the big one being the direct

927
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:47,100
connection to the existing trail

928
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,100
to sunnybrook boulevard.

929
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:53,100
the site is proposing 9

930
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:55,100
apartment buildings and 6

931
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:56,100
townhome buildings, which are

932
00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:59,100
situate more on the southern

933
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:00,100
property edge there.

934
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,100
they provide a private amenities

935
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:04,100
such as a club house, dog park

936
00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:06,401
and active open space

937
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:11,100
conceptually throughout the

938
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:12,100
site.

939
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:13,100
this plan has two access drives

940
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:15,100
on sunnybrook boulevard and

941
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:16,100
internal drive to the north

942
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,100
commercial street or rezoning

943
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:20,401
that we just heard.

944
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:22,100
no wavers are being considered

945
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:24,401
with this application, however,

946
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:26,100
similar to the previous one, we

947
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:28,401
are requiring a revised

948
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:30,100
preliminary site development

949
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:31,100
plan to go through further site

950
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:33,100
details.

951
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:36,100
the applicant met all public

952
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:37,100
notice requirements, including

953
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:39,401
the neighborhood meeting, same

954
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,100
50 attendees, however related to

955
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:44,100
this particular application,

956
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:46,100
recollect there were quite a few

957
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:48,401
concerns of traffic congestion,

958
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:51,100
safety, noise, lighting,

959
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:53,100
building heights, which the

960
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:55,100
applicant responded to.

961
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,100
staff also received additional

962
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,100
correspondence, which are

963
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:00,100
outlined in the packet,

964
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:02,100
including a petition from

965
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:04,100
neighborhood residents,

966
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:06,401
including about 37 signatures as

967
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:08,100
well.

968
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,100
so, staff responded to the

969
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:12,401
direct correspondence and public

970
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:16,100
notice requirements were met.

971
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:18,100
with all of the feedback from

972
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,100
traffic, we wanted to include a

973
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:22,100
little bit more information

974
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:23,100
within the presentation to

975
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:25,100
outline some of those

976
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:27,100
improvements which melissa

977
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:29,100
already covered a little bit of,

978
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:32,100
but the overall plan here is

979
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:34,100
generally outlining the overall

980
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,401
traffic improvements with the

981
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:38,100
extension of sunnybrook

982
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:40,100
boulevard from 113 street up to

983
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:42,100
college boulevard, which will be

984
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:44,100
a signalized intersection as it

985
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:46,100
is now.

986
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:48,100
the commercial development is

987
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:49,100
also providing the appropriate

988
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:51,100
turn lanes into sunnybrook

989
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,100
boulevard and also into the

990
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,100
sites as well, and adding a

991
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:58,100
middle turn lane down sunnybrook

992
00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:00,100
boulevard to accommodate

993
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:02,100
existing traffic from the

994
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,100
existing and proposed

995
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:06,100
developments shown here.

996
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:09,100
staff does recommend approval of

997
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:12,100
the rezoning to the r3 district

998
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:14,100
with no stipulations and also

999
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:16,100
requires revised preliminary

1000
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:18,100
site development plan.

1001
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:19,100
this case proceeds to the

1002
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:21,100
september 15 city council

1003
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:23,100
meeting and the applicant just

1004
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,100
has a few words to provide to

1005
00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:26,100
you all and we are available for

1006
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:28,100
questions.

1007
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:31,100
>> thank you taylor.

1008
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:36,100
please state your name and

1009
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:38,100
address for the record.

1010
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:39,100
>> good evening.

1011
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:42,100
my name is kurt peterson, 900

1012
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:45,100
west 48 west of kansas city

1013
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:48,100
missouri here with chris from

1014
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:51,100
platform the applicant and matt

1015
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:54,100
the civil engineer at

1016
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:56,100
kimley-horn.

1017
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:57,100
with a staff report like that

1018
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:59,401
and taylor's presentation, the

1019
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:02,100
last thing to do is go over

1020
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:05,601
details so will limit to three

1021
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:08,100
bullet points because we worked

1022
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:11,100
with a long time, staff worked a

1023
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:12,100
long time and this is from our

1024
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:14,100
perspective if you told me I had

1025
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,100
three bullet points, here is

1026
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:17,100
what I would say.

1027
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:19,100
first, this is a down-zoning as

1028
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:22,100
taylor did a good job

1029
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:23,100
describing.

1030
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:24,100
a significant down-zoning.

1031
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:27,100
something that can have up to

1032
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:29,100
144 feet, so this is significant

1033
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:32,100
down-zoning from bp to r3.

1034
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:33,100
point two is we really believe

1035
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:35,100
this is a reasonable and quality

1036
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:37,401
and traditional transition from

1037
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,100
commercial to the north, future

1038
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:41,100
commercial we just heard about,

1039
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:44,100
commercial to the east, to the

1040
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:45,100
residential to the south and

1041
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:47,100
southwest, including but not

1042
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:50,100
limited to the extensive tree

1043
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:51,100
preservation.

1044
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:52,100
we didn't highlight that much

1045
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:53,100
but you are looking at the

1046
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:55,100
aerial and seeing how much trees

1047
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:57,100
to the west and tree stand to

1048
00:35:57,100 --> 00:35:59,100
the south when we are done.

1049
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,100
extensive tree preservation.

1050
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,100
the third point and say the most

1051
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,100
important point is the

1052
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:07,100
consistency with any project of

1053
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:09,100
scale, there is something that

1054
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:11,100
is inconsistent with the comp

1055
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:12,100
plan goals or something to

1056
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:14,100
discus, but here in all ways as

1057
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,100
taylor emphasized in writing and

1058
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:17,100
verbally tonight we are

1059
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,100
consistent with elevate olathe

1060
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:21,100
and udo, whether pedestrian

1061
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:23,100
oriented with the trail

1062
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:24,100
connection or sidewalks or mixed

1063
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:26,100
use nature or the mixed housing

1064
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:27,100
because we have townhomes and

1065
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:29,100
traditional multifamily.

1066
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:33,100
so, we will again as taylor be

1067
00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:34,100
back with the preliminary

1068
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:37,100
development plan and hone in on

1069
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:39,401
architectural details, but for

1070
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:41,100
tonight we ask you to please

1071
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:43,100
consider and hopefully recommend

1072
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:44,100
to the city council this

1073
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:45,100
rezoning and the associated

1074
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,100
concept plan and if there is

1075
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:49,100
questions now chair or later, I

1076
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:50,100
am happy to answer those.

1077
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:52,100
>> thank you mr. Peterson.

1078
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:54,100
>> yes, sir.

1079
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:56,100
>> okay.

1080
00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,100
we'll move forward on the public

1081
00:36:58,100 --> 00:36:59,100
hearing.

1082
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:01,100
let me take a minute to spell

1083
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:02,100
how that works.

1084
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:04,100
we'll begin calling on

1085
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:05,100
individuals who signed up to

1086
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:07,100
speak through the process as we

1087
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:08,100
have available and thank

1088
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:11,100
everyone for attending and we

1089
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:13,100
appreciate your participation.

1090
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:16,100
it is a vital part of what we

1091
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:17,100
do.

1092
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:18,100
we understand the comments and

1093
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:20,100
feedback the public submitted

1094
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:21,100
already.

1095
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:22,100
we received e-mails, phone

1096
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:25,100
calls, letters and all everybody

1097
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:31,100
at the dais had ample time to

1098
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:32,100
review all those and they matter

1099
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:33,100
and will be taken into

1100
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:34,100
consideration.

1101
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:36,100
tonight we are most interested

1102
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:38,401
in hearing new information.

1103
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:41,100
in accordance with bylaws, each

1104
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:43,100
speaker will have a maximum of 5

1105
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:45,100
minutes and to your right you

1106
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:47,100
will see the clock on there.

1107
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:48,100
you will know exactly where you

1108
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:50,100
are at on that and that will be

1109
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:52,100
set for each speaker.

1110
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:54,100
however, if your points have

1111
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:55,100
been made by the person that

1112
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:58,100
went before you, it is really

1113
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:00,100
not necessary to come up and say

1114
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:02,100
the same thing.

1115
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:04,100
it doesn't provide any value to

1116
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:05,100
us to hear the same thing over

1117
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:06,100
and over.

1118
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:08,100
we know what they are and will

1119
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:09,100
take them into serious

1120
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:10,100
consideration.

1121
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:11,100
if your points have been made,

1122
00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:13,100
it is perfectly okay to pass or

1123
00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:15,100
come up, state your name and

1124
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:16,100
address for the record and just

1125
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:17,100
list your support for the

1126
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:20,601
comments that are prior made and

1127
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:23,100
perfectly okay to do that.

1128
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:25,100
please note our decision tonight

1129
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:27,100
is based on information provided

1130
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:30,601
us from all parties, so not

1131
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:32,100
necessarily to repeat the

1132
00:38:32,100 --> 00:38:34,100
information in the packet or

1133
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,100
addressed by other speakers

1134
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:37,100
tonight.

1135
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:38,100
all that is taken into

1136
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:39,100
consideration as we make a

1137
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:40,100
decision on this and moving to

1138
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:41,100
the city council, who is

1139
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:42,100
ultimately makes the final

1140
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:45,100
decision on passage on this as

1141
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:48,100
far as change in zoning.

1142
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:50,100
we expect you to conduct

1143
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:52,100
yourselves in a civil respectful

1144
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:54,100
manner.

1145
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:55,100
please address your comments to

1146
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:57,100
the planning commission.

1147
00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:01,100
this isn't a q & a.

1148
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:03,100
we are hear to listen to what

1149
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:05,100
you have to say, not a dialogue

1150
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:07,100
back and forth between us and

1151
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:08,100
staff.

1152
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:09,100
during your speaker time.

1153
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:11,100
if you pose a question for us to

1154
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:12,100
address later, not opposed to

1155
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:14,100
that, but don't expect us to

1156
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,100
answer while standing at the

1157
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:17,100
podium.

1158
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:20,100
moving on with that, I will open

1159
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:22,100
the public hearing.

1160
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:24,100
our first speaker signed up this

1161
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,401
evening is david connor.

1162
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:28,100
when you step to the podium,

1163
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:30,100
state your name and address for

1164
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:32,100
the record and we'll start the

1165
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:34,100
clock.

1166
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:43,100
>> david connor.

1167
00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:45,100
11259 south montclaire.

1168
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:50,100
I live off montclaire drive in

1169
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,100
olathe.

1170
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:52,100
I want to start by saying thank

1171
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:53,100
you to the planning commission

1172
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:55,100
for giving me the opportunity to

1173
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:56,100
speak tonight.

1174
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:58,100
I acknowledge what you do for

1175
00:39:58,100 --> 00:39:59,100
our community and appreciate you

1176
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:02,100
letting us air our grievances

1177
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:03,100
tonight.

1178
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:04,100
our family lived in olathe 31

1179
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:05,100
years.

1180
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,100
we built our current house

1181
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:09,100
nearly 10 years ago off

1182
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:10,100
montclaire drive.

1183
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:13,100
we are within two miles of each

1184
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:14,100
of our three daughters and built

1185
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:16,100
strategically in gatewood

1186
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:17,100
because of the location because

1187
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:19,100
it was on a quite street.

1188
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:21,100
when we purchased built the

1189
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:23,100
house we know the zoning lot

1190
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:25,100
behind us was agriculture,

1191
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:28,100
commercial, nobody knew what was

1192
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:29,100
going in there because they said

1193
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,100
the bank owned it.

1194
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:34,601
our agent told us houses would

1195
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,100
be built.

1196
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,100
later we realized not likely,

1197
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:39,100
probably more likely commercial

1198
00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:40,100
properties.

1199
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:42,100
we accepted that.

1200
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:43,100
commercial properties will be

1201
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:46,100
built and also know traffic

1202
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:49,100
noise would cease as a

1203
00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:50,100
reasonable hour.

1204
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:51,100
not one time in the past 10

1205
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:53,100
years has anyone told us

1206
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:55,100
apartment complexes or duplexesp

1207
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:56,100
in the future.

1208
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:59,100
not until given notice of this

1209
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:00,100
rezoning.

1210
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:01,100
I want to address several

1211
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:02,100
factors individually.

1212
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:04,100
one, the character of the

1213
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:05,100
neighborhood these apartments

1214
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,100
are sandwiched between

1215
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:11,100
neighborhoods minimal trees

1216
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:13,100
which the developer claims is

1217
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:15,100
theirs and they have the right

1218
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:18,100
to remove and do not prevent

1219
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:19,100
sight lines.

1220
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:20,100
if you are along that section of

1221
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:21,100
the trail you see there is no

1222
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:24,601
barrier from our backyard to the

1223
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:26,100
apartment complex.

1224
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:28,100
the multifamily housing do not

1225
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:31,601
conform to the character of the

1226
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:34,100
surrounding neighborhood. The

1227
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:36,100
extent to which the change will

1228
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:37,100
detrimentally effect our

1229
00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:39,100
properties, these apartments

1230
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:41,401
will significantly effect the

1231
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:44,100
value and esthetic of our home.

1232
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:46,100
to speak of meadow lane, we are

1233
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:48,100
used to having people walk

1234
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:49,100
behinds hour housing, however

1235
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:51,100
not equip to handle the droves

1236
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:53,100
of individuals who will access

1237
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:56,100
the trail behind my house.

1238
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:58,100
as I hope you are aware, you can

1239
00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:00,100
only turn right out of the small

1240
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:02,100
subdivision.

1241
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:03,100
with significant increase in

1242
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:05,100
traffic, based on 297

1243
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:08,100
apartments.

1244
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:10,100
36 duplexes, we will struggle

1245
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:12,100
more to turn out of the

1246
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:13,100
neighborhood.

1247
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:15,100
the foot traffic and car traffic

1248
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:18,100
will effect the property value

1249
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:21,401
and safety we enjoy.

1250
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:24,100
the gain to public health safety

1251
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:27,100
and welfare by the developer

1252
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:29,100
compared to hardships imposed on

1253
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:30,100
neighbors.

1254
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:31,100
the developers continue to tell

1255
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:33,100
us what great news the

1256
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:36,100
apartments are coming to our

1257
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:37,100
area and not explained what they

1258
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:39,100
are doing to increase the public

1259
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:41,100
health, the safety or welfare of

1260
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:42,100
the community.

1261
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:44,100
their business profits and that

1262
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:46,100
is all they care about.

1263
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:49,100
meanwhile my neighbors and I are

1264
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:50,100
mostly retired want the peace

1265
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:53,100
and quite nights we enjoyed for

1266
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:54,100
the past 10 years.

1267
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:56,100
having a significant amount of

1268
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:58,100
new neighbors behind us, which

1269
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:00,401
generate car noise, people

1270
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:04,100
noise, that effect our ability

1271
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:06,100
to enjoy the quite and peace we

1272
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:07,100
have.

1273
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:09,100
I haven't heard anything that

1274
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:11,100
outweighs the hardships you

1275
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:12,100
force upon my neighbors and I.

1276
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:14,100
I understand that development

1277
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:18,100
has to come to this area, we are

1278
00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:19,100
prepared for that.

1279
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:20,100
we are not prepared for

1280
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:22,100
apartments and duplexes multi

1281
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:24,100
stories that we will look into

1282
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:26,100
our backyards where our

1283
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,100
grandchildren play.

1284
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:32,100
elsewhere in the city you

1285
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:33,100
decided where to place

1286
00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:35,100
apartments and keep out of

1287
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:36,100
neighborhoods.

1288
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:37,100
think of the ones ridge view and

1289
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:38,100
college.

1290
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:40,100
k7 and 119 street.

1291
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:43,100
the ones across from high v on

1292
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:44,100
119th street.

1293
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:46,100
they are along major roadways

1294
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:48,100
where single family housing

1295
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:49,100
isn't ideal.

1296
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:52,100
that is where apartments belong

1297
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:55,100
along major corridors where they

1298
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:57,100
have access and are families and

1299
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:59,100
housing isn't permitted.

1300
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:00,100
thank you.

1301
00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:02,100
>> thank you mr. Connor.

1302
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:05,100
next speaker is forest miles.

1303
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:07,100
(applause)

1304
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:31,100
>> good evening commissioners

1305
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:33,100
and thank you for letting me

1306
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:34,100
talk.

1307
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:36,100
my name is forest miles and I

1308
00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:38,100
lived on the west side of olathe

1309
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:40,100
for 45 years.

1310
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:43,100
currently I live in gatewood

1311
00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:46,601
villas as my neighbor dave and

1312
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:50,100
we-which backs up to the

1313
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:53,100
proposed apartment and villa

1314
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:54,100
project.

1315
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:56,100
by living on the west side for

1316
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:59,601
the last 45 years, I have never

1317
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:03,100
seen a high density apartment or

1318
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:05,100
villa complex put in the center

1319
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:09,201
of a r1, r2 or residential area.

1320
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:13,100
they always been as dave said,

1321
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:14,100
and this is repeat, but they

1322
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:17,100
have been at like-I give you the

1323
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:20,100
one at ridgeview and college.

1324
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:24,100
okay?

1325
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:26,401
the current developments from

1326
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:31,601
119th to the north are usually

1327
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:37,801
all most always r1, r2 or c2 for

1328
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:41,100
small business.

1329
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:46,100
comparison the proposed r3

1330
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:48,100
zoning of 9 apartment buildings,

1331
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:50,100
6 villas complexes, development

1332
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:56,100
of around a thousand people,

1333
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:59,401
with 333 apartment units and 550

1334
00:46:01,100 --> 00:46:04,100
parking stalls is immense for

1335
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:07,100
our neighborhood in general.

1336
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:09,100
at a time when traffic on

1337
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:12,100
college in the morning and the

1338
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:14,100
afternoon has already escalated,

1339
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:17,100
because of the number of people

1340
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:21,801
to the west of us, and all as

1341
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:23,100
such, it is tough.

1342
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:25,100
it really is.

1343
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:26,100
especially when the schools are

1344
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:28,100
open and all.

1345
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:33,601
you have that-- at this time,

1346
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:39,100
the traffic on college in the

1347
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:41,100
morning and afternoon is

1348
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:43,100
escalated because of the west.

1349
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:44,100
also with the building of

1350
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:46,100
dillons there will also compound

1351
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:47,100
the problem.

1352
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:49,100
furthermore, as stated in the

1353
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:52,100
meeting on july 22, they said,

1354
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:54,401
80 percent of the complex

1355
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:58,100
traffic would be headed north on

1356
00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:00,401
sunnybrook towards meadow lane

1357
00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:03,100
elementary school.

1358
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:06,100
that is a problem.

1359
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:09,100
olathe northwest, which is to

1360
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:13,100
the east is also a problem,

1361
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:16,100
because in the morning and

1362
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:19,100
afternoon and with activities,

1363
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:21,100
there is immense amount of

1364
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:23,100
traffic around there.

1365
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:27,100
also, there will be traffic they

1366
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:30,100
said about 20percent, which will

1367
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:33,100
be headed towards st. Paul on

1368
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:36,100
lone elm and then of course,

1369
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:38,100
down towards northwest.

1370
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:44,100
these facilities, it creates a

1371
00:47:44,100 --> 00:47:46,401
dangerous situation for driving,

1372
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:49,100
with a lot of young people for

1373
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:51,401
cycling, for walking and

1374
00:47:52,100 --> 00:47:54,100
especially for kids and I see

1375
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:56,100
this a lot, because I live out

1376
00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:58,100
there on e-bikes.

1377
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:01,100
the dense development will also

1378
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:03,100
add noise, light pollution,

1379
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:06,100
density, I don't know how they

1380
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:08,100
will get rid of all the water

1381
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:10,100
run-off.

1382
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:11,100
I haven't seen anything with

1383
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:12,100
that.

1384
00:48:12,100 --> 00:48:15,100
and, some loss of trees.

1385
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:18,601
now, I am not opposed to

1386
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:23,100
development and if this was in

1387
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:27,100
the same thing of the r2, which

1388
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:30,100
would be or r1, which would be

1389
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:32,100
single houses or r2, which would

1390
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:35,100
be side by side villas which

1391
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:38,100
come down from 119th and which

1392
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:40,100
there would be much less density

1393
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:43,100
and a lot more safety, and I

1394
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:45,100
thank you for your time.

1395
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:47,401
>> thank you, mr. Miles.

1396
00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:51,100
(applause)

1397
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:53,401
next speaker--bill statler, is

1398
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:56,100
that correct?

1399
00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:57,100
okay.

1400
00:48:57,100 --> 00:49:00,100
I'll let you correct me.

1401
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:07,100
>> bill stalter, 11299 south

1402
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:10,100
montclaire.

1403
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:12,100
I wouldn't nit-pick.

1404
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:15,100
the characterization that the

1405
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:18,100
staff has given page 8 paragraph

1406
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:20,100
c that there is a harmony

1407
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:22,100
between the existing residential

1408
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:25,100
uses, and the proposed use.

1409
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:27,100
there are four communities that

1410
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:30,100
are shown in various maps in

1411
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:32,100
your documents.

1412
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:33,100
one called zoning and another

1413
00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:35,100
called correspondence and

1414
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:41,100
another is overlay showing four

1415
00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:45,100
communities, gatewood which we

1416
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:48,100
reside in, to the west is

1417
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:49,100
stratford oaks a large community

1418
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:52,100
shown on the map as a rp3 to the

1419
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:55,100
south would be covingtry creek

1420
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:01,100
and court.

1421
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:07,100
stratford oaks being rp3 in the

1422
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:10,601
original zoning, lends a lot of

1423
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:13,100
credibility that this isn't a

1424
00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:16,601
big step to add rp3 for

1425
00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:19,100
rezoning.

1426
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:21,100
but, stratford oaks has been

1427
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:22,100
built out for decades.

1428
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:25,100
it is divided by 113th street.

1429
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:27,100
the north half is owner occupied

1430
00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:28,100
duplexes.

1431
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:31,100
the south half are owner single

1432
00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:33,100
dwelling homes.

1433
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:36,601
so, in essence this project is

1434
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:41,100
by r1 and r2 developments.

1435
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:43,100
if you want to find a r3

1436
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:45,100
development you have to step

1437
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:46,100
back.

1438
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:48,100
the closest one is on

1439
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:50,100
[inaudible] it is a sliver piece

1440
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:52,401
of tract about 7 homes.

1441
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:54,100
they are townhomes.

1442
00:50:54,100 --> 00:50:57,100
owner occupied and none being

1443
00:50:57,100 --> 00:50:59,100
over 2 stories.

1444
00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:02,100
it is bordered by community zone

1445
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:04,100
property on the west.

1446
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:06,100
step out further to find the

1447
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:09,100
next rp3, and that is south on

1448
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:10,100
sunnybrook and that is village

1449
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:12,100
at sunnybrook.

1450
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:15,100
there is a larger tract labeled

1451
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:18,100
rp3, but the north half has been

1452
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:20,100
built out as duplexes.

1453
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:23,100
they will be owner occupied

1454
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:24,100
duplexes so all we are talking

1455
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:26,100
about are 12 apartments at the

1456
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:28,100
village at sunnybrook.

1457
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:31,100
those are no higher then two

1458
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:32,100
stories.

1459
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,100
they are flanked by a school on

1460
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:37,601
the east, the south and west.

1461
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:40,100
there is no other adjoining

1462
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:42,100
residential property touching

1463
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:44,100
that particular development.

1464
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:46,100
so, what we are seeing here is a

1465
00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:49,100
probably I say escalation in

1466
00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:50,100
density and height we are not

1467
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:52,100
seeing anywhere else in this

1468
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:54,100
area.

1469
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:56,100
is this a bit misleading to say

1470
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:58,100
that this is a easy step for

1471
00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:01,100
rp3, when we really don't see

1472
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:03,100
that in our area.

1473
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:06,100
reference to r4 is, that's the

1474
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:09,100
senior citizen-at the south on

1475
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:12,100
119th.

1476
00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:14,100
what I say is, again, that isn't

1477
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:15,100
a fair characterization to say,

1478
00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:18,100
this is easy step to rp3.

1479
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:20,100
thank you.

1480
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:22,401
>> thank you mr. Stalter.

1481
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:25,100
(applause)

1482
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:28,100
next speaker is greg milard.

1483
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:30,100
>> [inaudible]

1484
00:52:30,100 --> 00:52:32,100
>> thank you.

1485
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:34,100
max cook.

1486
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:42,100
>> good evening.

1487
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:45,100
I am a max cook, live 11475

1488
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,100
south round-tree street

1489
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:50,100
covington creek and just moved

1490
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:52,100
there very proudly moved there.

1491
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:55,601
saved the last 20years to afford

1492
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:58,100
a place like that.

1493
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:00,100
you can understand hopefully why

1494
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:03,100
I was extremely disappointed to

1495
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:04,100
find out after moving there that

1496
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:06,100
we would be talking about

1497
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:07,100
rezoning the area across the

1498
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:10,100
tree line from me into high

1499
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:12,100
density.

1500
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:13,100
I don't care what you call it

1501
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:15,401
apartment complexes where you

1502
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:20,100
will cram a bunch of people in

1503
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:21,100
there.

1504
00:53:21,100 --> 00:53:22,100
the only people that went in

1505
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:25,100
this scenario is city and county

1506
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:27,100
so they can continue spending

1507
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:28,100
like drunken sailors over

1508
00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:29,100
nothing.

1509
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,100
my neighborhood doesn't benefit

1510
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:32,100
from this.

1511
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:33,100
the other members of our

1512
00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:35,100
community don't benefit from

1513
00:53:35,100 --> 00:53:36,100
this.

1514
00:53:36,100 --> 00:53:37,100
we live there already.

1515
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:39,100
it will be a bad thing for

1516
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:40,100
everybody involved.

1517
00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:41,100
they already said a lot of the

1518
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:44,100
same things I believe, but quite

1519
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:45,100
frankly, I just really think

1520
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:48,100
this is a project for a

1521
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:50,100
different area then right in the

1522
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:52,100
middle of r1 and r2 neighborhood

1523
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:53,100
that is already developed.

1524
00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:55,100
we appreciate your time.

1525
00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:57,100
please don't allow this to go

1526
00:53:57,100 --> 00:53:58,100
through.

1527
00:53:58,100 --> 00:53:59,100
>> thank you mr. Cook.

1528
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:00,100
(applause)

1529
00:54:00,100 --> 00:54:03,100
final speaker signed up, fred

1530
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:08,100
nelson.

1531
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:20,100
>> my name is fred nelson, 11442

1532
00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:23,100
south northston street in the

1533
00:54:23,100 --> 00:54:25,100
covington court area.

1534
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:28,100
we moved here 5 years ago from

1535
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:30,100
hutchinson, so we are elated

1536
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:33,100
about the dillons going in,

1537
00:54:33,100 --> 00:54:35,100
because if you haven't been to

1538
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:36,100
one, they are really really

1539
00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:37,100
nice.

1540
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:38,100
when we moved here, they were

1541
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:41,100
still building the villas on

1542
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:45,100
covington court side and we live

1543
00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:47,100
across the retention pond there

1544
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:50,601
and we see deer and coyotes.

1545
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:53,100
that is long gone.

1546
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:56,100
the big thing there it was so

1547
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:59,601
nice and quite, but one thing

1548
00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:02,100
reiterated is what really

1549
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:04,401
bothers me, sunnybrook boulevard

1550
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:07,100
really isn't a boulevard all the

1551
00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:09,100
way through, unlike ridgeview

1552
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:10,100
and college where they built

1553
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:12,401
these-when people come out,

1554
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:17,100
there is 500 some parking spots

1555
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:18,100
and channels down and one thing

1556
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:20,100
I wish the drawings would have

1557
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:24,201
shown is what is built on the

1558
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:26,100
other corner.

1559
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:27,100
there is a entrance in and

1560
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:30,601
outright in the same area and

1561
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:34,100
another thing that may or may

1562
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:36,100
not be known is there is 10

1563
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:37,100
schools within a mile there.

1564
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:40,601
five are preschools and two are

1565
00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:42,100
there at the corner.

1566
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:45,601
I just had an appointment this

1567
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:47,100
morning and had to go through

1568
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:49,100
college boulevard and and came

1569
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:53,100
by that area and got on the

1570
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:56,100
street on college and you-they

1571
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:58,100
were backed up so far, people

1572
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:01,100
couldn't make a turn on lone

1573
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:02,100
elm.

1574
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:03,100
maybe they were taking their

1575
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:04,100
kids to the junior high or what

1576
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:05,100
have you, but the traffic, I

1577
00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:08,100
know they pointed some that

1578
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:12,100
out right turn lanes but it is

1579
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:15,100
so convoluted in the area and I

1580
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:18,100
attended the meeting at the k

1581
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:19,100
state extension office there and

1582
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:22,100
I was very interested in how

1583
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:24,100
they do this traffic study.

1584
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:26,100
he said well the model shows

1585
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:29,100
that you can handle this.

1586
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:30,100
well, the dillons store I think

1587
00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:32,100
they will do a tremendous job

1588
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:33,100
here.

1589
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:34,100
there will be a lot more traffic

1590
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:36,100
then they think.

1591
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:39,100
the st. Paul church, the largest

1592
00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:42,100
catholic church in kansas city

1593
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:44,100
kansas diocese and they have

1594
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:46,100
daily mass there too and they

1595
00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:48,100
have a exit on 113th street and

1596
00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:51,100
I just-I guess my feelings are,

1597
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:54,100
if they kept it commercial, it

1598
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:55,100
wouldn't bother me, but with

1599
00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:58,100
that many vehicles in that area

1600
00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:01,601
I just hope think they could

1601
00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:05,100
really consider you guys could

1602
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:07,100
consider not doing this allowing

1603
00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:09,100
this to happen.

1604
00:57:10,100 --> 00:57:12,100
commercial I'm fine with.

1605
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:14,100
olathe has grown.

1606
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:15,100
phenomenal growth and love

1607
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:17,100
living up here and close to

1608
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:18,100
things.

1609
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:19,100
we were fortunate to volunteer

1610
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:21,100
for the fifa thing and that was

1611
00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:23,100
great and it just I just hope

1612
00:57:23,100 --> 00:57:25,100
you really give it a lot of

1613
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:27,100
foresight and thought that we

1614
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:30,100
don't shouldn't put it there,

1615
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:32,100
because I guess I leave with one

1616
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:33,100
statement.

1617
00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:35,100
would you want this to happen in

1618
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:36,100
your neighborhood?

1619
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:37,100
thank you.

1620
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:38,100
(applause)

1621
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:40,401
>> thank you mr. Nelson.

1622
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:45,100
that is our final speaker.

1623
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:46,100
I entertain a motion to close

1624
00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:48,100
the public hearing.

1625
00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:51,100
>> so moved.

1626
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:53,401
>> thank you commissioner breen.

1627
00:57:55,100 --> 00:57:56,100
do I have a second?

1628
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:57,100
>> second.

1629
00:57:57,100 --> 00:57:58,100
>> thank you commissioner

1630
00:57:58,100 --> 00:57:59,100
chapman.

1631
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:01,100
all in favor aye.

1632
00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:03,100
opposed, nay?

1633
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:06,100
the public hearing is closed.

1634
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:08,100
open for discussion for staff or

1635
00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:09,100
applicant.

1636
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:11,100
commissioner chapman.

1637
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:13,100
>> I have a question first for

1638
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:15,100
the developer.

1639
00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:17,100
>> okay.

1640
00:58:22,100 --> 00:58:23,100
>> two questions for you.

1641
00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:24,100
>> yes, sir.

1642
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:26,100
>> you use the term extensive

1643
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:27,100
tree preservation.

1644
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:28,100
can you explain what you mean by

1645
00:58:28,100 --> 00:58:29,100
that?

1646
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:30,100
>> sure thing.

1647
00:58:30,100 --> 00:58:32,100
we were given as a concept plan.

1648
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:34,100
not down to the percentage, but

1649
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:36,100
we asked our civil engineer

1650
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:38,100
beforehand if there was more

1651
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:41,100
detailed question, what is best

1652
00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:44,100
guesstimate and said we will

1653
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:46,100
preserve--there is a lot of

1654
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:48,100
trees, a lot off to the west

1655
00:58:48,100 --> 00:58:52,201
where the trail is and trees to

1656
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:55,100
the south and 76 percent of the

1657
00:58:55,100 --> 00:58:58,601
trees will be preserved and it

1658
00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:02,100
wasn't a big chunk, it was

1659
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:04,401
shaving here and there.

1660
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:08,100
>> thank you.

1661
00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:09,100
>> yes, sir.

1662
00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:10,100
>> I have a question I guess for

1663
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:11,100
staff.

1664
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:12,100
anyone of staff.

1665
00:59:12,100 --> 00:59:14,100
this meadow tree lane is a city

1666
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:16,100
maintained trail, is that

1667
00:59:16,100 --> 00:59:18,100
correct?

1668
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:21,100
>> correct.

1669
00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:23,100
it is a city owned trail.

1670
00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:25,100
>> do we have restrictions with

1671
00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:27,100
regards to the removal of trees

1672
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:28,100
along our trails?

1673
00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:31,100
>> so, are you referring to the

1674
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:34,100
trees that are around the

1675
00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:35,100
existing trail itself or the

1676
00:59:35,100 --> 00:59:37,100
trees on the applicants

1677
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:38,100
property?

1678
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:40,100
>> on either side of the trail.

1679
00:59:40,100 --> 00:59:42,100
we have trees on either side of

1680
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:44,100
the trail from the overhead

1681
00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:45,100
views I see.

1682
00:59:45,100 --> 00:59:48,100
do we have restrictions on how

1683
00:59:48,100 --> 00:59:51,100
close you can get to a trail and

1684
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:52,100
removal of trees?

1685
00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:55,100
does the tree have a requirement

1686
00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:57,100
you cannot move trees within 50

1687
00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:59,100
or 75 feet of the trail?

1688
00:59:59,100 --> 01:00:00,100
>> there isn't a specific

1689
01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:01,100
distance requirement for the

1690
01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:02,100
trees to be removed.

1691
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:04,100
the tract that the-let me pull

1692
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:06,100
it up.

1693
01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:08,100
that the trail is in, is within

1694
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:10,401
a the residential properties

1695
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:16,100
tract.

1696
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:24,601
so, the trail is within here.

1697
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:34,100
that is not within the

1698
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:36,100
applicant's property, so the

1699
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:38,100
tree preservation adjacent to

1700
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:40,100
the trail is within a tract that

1701
01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:43,601
is associated with the hoa in

1702
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:46,100
the neighborhood there.

1703
01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:49,100
so, any tree removal would be a

1704
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:50,100
conversation with the hoa and

1705
01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:52,100
the city and not of the

1706
01:00:52,100 --> 01:00:54,100
applicant.

1707
01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:56,100
>> what about the trees that

1708
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:58,100
are-that we are looking at on

1709
01:00:58,100 --> 01:01:00,100
the rz-

1710
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:02,100
>> this area here?

1711
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:03,100
>> yes, and further north.

1712
01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:06,601
>> all of these are within the

1713
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:08,100
tree preservation standards we

1714
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:11,100
have for development, so each

1715
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:13,100
applicant is required to

1716
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:14,100
preserve at least 20 percent of

1717
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:16,401
the existing wooded area.

1718
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:19,100
so, that will be considered with

1719
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:21,100
the requirements of the revised

1720
01:01:21,100 --> 01:01:23,100
preliminary plan.

1721
01:01:24,100 --> 01:01:25,100
>> okay.

1722
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:27,100
20 percent?

1723
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:29,401
>> that's the standard, yes.

1724
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:33,100
>> thank you.

1725
01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:34,100
>> commissioner chapman, I will

1726
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:35,100
add a little point.

1727
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:38,100
there is a stream corridor and

1728
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:39,100
that is higher level of

1729
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:42,100
protection, so taylor gave a the

1730
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:43,100
tree preservation requirement

1731
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:46,100
which is what you were asking

1732
01:01:46,100 --> 01:01:47,100
about.

1733
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:48,100
the other layer which preserves

1734
01:01:48,100 --> 01:01:49,100
more trees is the stream

1735
01:01:49,100 --> 01:01:50,100
corridor.

1736
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:51,100
that is where they have a higher

1737
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:52,100
level of protection.

1738
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:54,100
>> thank you.

1739
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:58,100
>> commissioner terrones.

1740
01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:01,100
>> thank you mr. Chairman.

1741
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:04,100
question has to do with traffic.

1742
01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:07,100
the packet referred to traffic

1743
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:10,100
study, but could we get more

1744
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:12,100
specific detail about when it

1745
01:02:12,100 --> 01:02:15,100
was conducted and time of day

1746
01:02:15,100 --> 01:02:17,401
and how that progressed?

1747
01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:21,100
thank you.

1748
01:02:23,100 --> 01:02:25,100
>> I'll cover traffic and may

1749
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:27,401
double back on corridors.

1750
01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:29,100
>> go right ahead.

1751
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:31,100
>> I dont know the exact time of

1752
01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:35,100
day that they did the study or

1753
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:36,100
exact dates.

1754
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:39,100
traditionally as all our studies

1755
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:41,100
are done, they will take the

1756
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:43,100
counts during the middle of the

1757
01:02:43,100 --> 01:02:44,100
week and shooting when school is

1758
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:47,100
in session, but this is a unique

1759
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:50,100
little area in regards to this

1760
01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:52,100
road isn't currently there.

1761
01:02:52,100 --> 01:02:53,100
so, there is some traffic counts

1762
01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:56,100
you can't take and this is

1763
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:58,100
developing and building this new

1764
01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:00,401
roadway and so there

1765
01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:03,100
unique-can't count the traffic

1766
01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:05,100
on sunnybrook boulevard because

1767
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:06,100
it isn't there.

1768
01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:08,100
so, that traffic study did take

1769
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:10,100
traffic counts along college

1770
01:03:10,100 --> 01:03:12,100
boulevard, also went to college

1771
01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:15,100
boulevard and lone elm and

1772
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:17,100
different traffic counts there

1773
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:19,100
and analyzed those.

1774
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:23,100
>> can the conversation at the

1775
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:25,100
side, can we cease on that,

1776
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:26,100
please?

1777
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:27,100
go ahead.

1778
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:29,100
>> traffic was analyzed.

1779
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:31,100
meeting the standards.

1780
01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:32,100
they made appropriate

1781
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:33,100
assumptions because they have to

1782
01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:35,100
make assumptions because

1783
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:36,100
sunnybrook boulevard isn't

1784
01:03:36,100 --> 01:03:37,100
there.

1785
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:38,100
the other thing we looked at is

1786
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:40,100
we looked at the actual traffic

1787
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:43,601
on college boulevard and just so

1788
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:45,100
you know, just some of the

1789
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:47,100
numbers out there, college

1790
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:49,401
boulevard is operating probably

1791
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:53,100
like the daily traffic it sees

1792
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:56,100
is about a third of what it can

1793
01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:57,100
be capacity wise.

1794
01:03:57,100 --> 01:03:59,100
if you compare this down to 151

1795
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:02,100
street you see about a third of

1796
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:03,100
the traffic that we see through

1797
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:05,100
some of the other very very

1798
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:06,100
similar corridors.

1799
01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:09,100
any other questions in regards

1800
01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:10,100
to traffic?

1801
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:12,100
that answer thereat that?

1802
01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:13,100
>> no thank you.

1803
01:04:13,100 --> 01:04:14,100
>> just in regards one more

1804
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:15,100
time, because I think there is

1805
01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:17,100
concerns about how much buffer

1806
01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:18,100
area is there.

1807
01:04:18,100 --> 01:04:20,100
I don't know the specific

1808
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:22,100
acreage draining through this

1809
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:25,100
tributary, but my guess is it is

1810
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:27,401
usually about a--double check

1811
01:04:28,100 --> 01:04:30,100
this.

1812
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:33,100
it is 60 feet probably on each

1813
01:04:33,100 --> 01:04:35,401
side that streamway that

1814
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:38,100
absolutely is protected.

1815
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:41,601
if it jumps to 160 acres the

1816
01:04:42,100 --> 01:04:43,100
drainage which I dont think it

1817
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:45,100
qualifies for, it is hundred

1818
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:47,100
feet on each side that tributary

1819
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:49,100
area and that is consistent with

1820
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:52,601
all the stream buffers we have.

1821
01:04:53,100 --> 01:04:55,100
in that area there isn't

1822
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:57,100
intended to be clearing or

1823
01:04:57,100 --> 01:04:58,100
grading or anything like that.

1824
01:04:58,100 --> 01:05:00,100
>> thank you.

1825
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:03,100
additional questions?

1826
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:07,100
>> where is the streamway?

1827
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:10,601
does it run along the trail?

1828
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:30,100
>> it is very faint.

1829
01:05:30,100 --> 01:05:32,100
I am going to-can you make this

1830
01:05:32,100 --> 01:05:35,100
go-- once again, charley love,

1831
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:40,100
chief development engineer.

1832
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:42,100
I highlight on here, it is tough

1833
01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:44,100
to see, but it actually shows

1834
01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:46,100
the approximate so I will trace

1835
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:47,100
on here with my finger.

1836
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:50,100
the existing stream is following

1837
01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:53,100
the light black line in there.

1838
01:05:53,100 --> 01:05:55,100
>> got it.

1839
01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:59,100
>> from that point, I think I

1840
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:01,100
lose it but it goes through

1841
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:03,100
there and there is another

1842
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:04,100
through that direction.

1843
01:06:04,100 --> 01:06:06,100
>> thank you.

1844
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:08,100
>> okay.

1845
01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:09,100
>> I have other questions.

1846
01:06:09,100 --> 01:06:10,100
>> go ahead.

1847
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:12,401
floor is still yours.

1848
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:20,100
going back to the trees again

1849
01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:23,100
here for the staff, either kim

1850
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:26,100
or taylor, this might be a

1851
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:29,100
impossible estimate, but can you

1852
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:32,401
estimate the distance between

1853
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:36,100
the rear of the proposed

1854
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:38,401
structures, and the trail?

1855
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:41,100
>> in the trail itself?

1856
01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:43,100
>> yes.

1857
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:45,100
>> so, we have distances from

1858
01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:48,100
the proposed buildings to the

1859
01:06:48,100 --> 01:06:50,100
property lines.

1860
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:55,401
so, as shown-- here.

1861
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:05,100
the apartments on the west side

1862
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:08,100
there are set back 80 to 190

1863
01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:12,100
feet.

1864
01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:14,100
as well as the townhomes there.

1865
01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:15,100
>> to the property line?

1866
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:17,100
>> to the property line so it

1867
01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:18,100
will be set back farther from

1868
01:07:18,100 --> 01:07:21,100
the trail to the west.

1869
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:24,100
>> now, mr. Peterson, that his

1870
01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:31,100
name?

1871
01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:32,100
>> yes.

1872
01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:33,100
>> used the number, 75 percent

1873
01:07:33,100 --> 01:07:37,201
of the trees are going to be

1874
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:40,100
kept.

1875
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:43,100
that is obviously only on their

1876
01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:44,100
property.

1877
01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:45,100
what percentage of the trees

1878
01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:47,100
would that be when you took it a

1879
01:07:47,100 --> 01:07:50,100
percentage of on each side of

1880
01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:52,100
the trail?

1881
01:07:52,100 --> 01:07:55,100
what I'm looking for is lots of

1882
01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:57,100
trees on the east side of the

1883
01:07:57,100 --> 01:07:58,100
trail too I take it.

1884
01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:00,100
>> uh-huh.

1885
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:02,100
>> how many feet of trees would

1886
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:03,100
there be over there?

1887
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:05,100
>> so, for this application, we

1888
01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:07,100
are looking at the property line

1889
01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:08,100
itself on the trees that are

1890
01:08:08,100 --> 01:08:10,100
located on the applicant's

1891
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:11,100
property, so that is where the

1892
01:08:11,100 --> 01:08:13,401
minimum 20 percent comes in.

1893
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:15,100
those will be preserved along

1894
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:18,100
the property line to buffer

1895
01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:19,100
between where the trail is and

1896
01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:21,401
where the development is.

1897
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:24,100
>> so, there is plenty of trees

1898
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:26,100
there along each side?

1899
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:29,100
>> yes, and also will have

1900
01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:31,100
landscaping as well that we'll

1901
01:08:31,100 --> 01:08:33,100
evaluate during the revised

1902
01:08:33,100 --> 01:08:34,100
preliminary plan.

1903
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:37,100
to supplementary any gaps in the

1904
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:38,100
tree preservation area, there

1905
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:40,100
are landscape requirements we

1906
01:08:40,100 --> 01:08:43,100
evaluate to buffer r3 based on

1907
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:45,100
the adjacent zoning districts as

1908
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:47,100
well.

1909
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:49,100
>> alright.

1910
01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:51,100
you had a slide up there with

1911
01:08:51,100 --> 01:08:54,100
the term that makes me crazy and

1912
01:08:54,100 --> 01:08:56,401
that is, missing middle.

1913
01:08:58,100 --> 01:09:00,100
could you explain to me or kim

1914
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:02,100
or somebody what the missing

1915
01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:03,100
middle is?

1916
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:04,100
had

1917
01:09:04,100 --> 01:09:05,100
>> sure.

1918
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:06,100
missing middle is the housing

1919
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:08,100
types between single family

1920
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:10,401
homes and high density

1921
01:09:11,100 --> 01:09:13,100
apartments, so more urban

1922
01:09:13,100 --> 01:09:14,100
context apartments versus your

1923
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:16,100
typical single family.

1924
01:09:16,100 --> 01:09:18,100
you have housing products in the

1925
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:19,100
missing middle that include

1926
01:09:19,100 --> 01:09:21,100
townhomes, duplexes, courtyard

1927
01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:26,100
cottages, as well as smaller

1928
01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:29,100
multiplexes like four plexes and

1929
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:32,100
six plexes so that is the

1930
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:34,100
missing middle product.

1931
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:37,100
>> not related to price, it is

1932
01:09:37,100 --> 01:09:38,100
related to structures?

1933
01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:41,100
>> yes, it is related to

1934
01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:43,100
individual buildings themselves.

1935
01:09:43,100 --> 01:09:45,100
>> thank you.

1936
01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:47,100
>> okay.

1937
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:48,100
additional questions?

1938
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:50,100
commissioner bergida.

1939
01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:51,100
>> thank you mr. Chairman.

1940
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:53,100
I got one question for you mr.

1941
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:55,401
love regarding the traffic

1942
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:58,100
study.

1943
01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:03,100
did the traffic study take into

1944
01:10:03,100 --> 01:10:04,100
consideration the development we

1945
01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:07,100
just approved to the north and

1946
01:10:07,100 --> 01:10:09,100
then if I recall correctly,

1947
01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:12,601
there is at least two projects,

1948
01:10:13,100 --> 01:10:15,100
apartment complex projects we

1949
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:17,100
approved in the last 18 months

1950
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:19,100
to the west of this as well.

1951
01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:20,100
did it take into consideration

1952
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:22,100
the additional traffic from

1953
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:24,100
those three different projects?

1954
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:25,100
>> charley love, chief

1955
01:10:25,100 --> 01:10:27,100
development engineer.

1956
01:10:27,100 --> 01:10:28,100
the good thing about all these

1957
01:10:28,100 --> 01:10:31,601
projects coming in at the same

1958
01:10:33,100 --> 01:10:35,100
time, dillons, commercial, this

1959
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:38,100
multifamily, they have all been

1960
01:10:41,100 --> 01:10:43,100
worked together and that helped

1961
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:45,100
us because it has been able to

1962
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:46,100
when we evaluate that

1963
01:10:46,100 --> 01:10:49,100
intersection looking to make it

1964
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:51,100
sure it will operate

1965
01:10:51,100 --> 01:10:52,100
satisfactory and that is the

1966
01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:53,100
case.

1967
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:54,100
the traffic studies did also

1968
01:10:54,100 --> 01:10:56,100
look and take into consideration

1969
01:10:56,100 --> 01:10:58,100
those apartments I believe you

1970
01:10:58,100 --> 01:10:59,100
are talking I think are actually

1971
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:02,100
on the west side of k7 and they

1972
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:05,100
do reference those as well.

1973
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:06,100
>> okay.

1974
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:07,100
thank you.

1975
01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:09,100
and then, this goes back to

1976
01:11:09,100 --> 01:11:11,100
distance questions, which ever

1977
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:13,100
staff member is best suited to

1978
01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:14,100
answer this one.

1979
01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:16,100
we talked about distance to the

1980
01:11:16,100 --> 01:11:17,100
property line.

1981
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:20,100
do we know what the distance is

1982
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:22,100
between those homes on south

1983
01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:24,401
montclaire drive and 3 or 4

1984
01:11:27,100 --> 01:11:29,100
buildings on the west side of

1985
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:30,100
the proposed development?

1986
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:33,100
>> could you repeat the question

1987
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:34,100
for the distance?

1988
01:11:34,100 --> 01:11:36,100
>> yes, how far is it from the

1989
01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:38,100
homes not the property line or

1990
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:40,100
the trail, but the homes to the

1991
01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:42,100
buildings on the west side of

1992
01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:44,100
the development?

1993
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:46,100
>> so, you mean the property

1994
01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:48,100
line here how far away is it

1995
01:11:48,100 --> 01:11:51,100
from the homes to the west?

1996
01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:52,100
>> sure.

1997
01:11:52,100 --> 01:11:53,100
that would help with the total

1998
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:55,100
number, but the question I'm

1999
01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:57,100
asking is the houses that are to

2000
01:11:57,100 --> 01:12:00,100
the west of the property line,

2001
01:12:00,100 --> 01:12:03,100
the ones off south montclaire

2002
01:12:03,100 --> 01:12:06,100
drive, how far are those homes

2003
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:07,100
from--

2004
01:12:07,100 --> 01:12:09,100
>> those homes are-this is

2005
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:11,100
easier.

2006
01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:13,100
>> yes.

2007
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:15,100
>> so, the property line is

2008
01:12:15,100 --> 01:12:18,100
shown here and as I mentioned,

2009
01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:21,100
the buildings over here are set

2010
01:12:21,100 --> 01:12:23,100
back all most 180 feet from that

2011
01:12:23,100 --> 01:12:26,100
property line, and so they are

2012
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:28,100
separated by this trail here, so

2013
01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:30,401
approximately 200 feet or so,

2014
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:33,100
exceeding that in certain areas

2015
01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:34,100
on the west side of the property

2016
01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:35,100
line.

2017
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:36,100
>> okay.

2018
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:39,100
and then, I understand there's

2019
01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:44,100
rp3 zoning, but as one resident

2020
01:12:44,100 --> 01:12:47,100
pointed out, and what I can see

2021
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:50,100
on google maps, it is all single

2022
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:53,100
family or duplex, the highest is

2023
01:12:53,100 --> 01:12:56,100
two stories to the west.

2024
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:58,100
I think it is the same to the

2025
01:12:58,100 --> 01:12:59,100
south.

2026
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:00,100
is that correct?

2027
01:13:00,100 --> 01:13:03,100
it is only single family and

2028
01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:05,100
duplex adjacent to the west and

2029
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:07,100
south and southeast to this

2030
01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:09,100
proposed site?

2031
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:10,100
>> yes.

2032
01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:13,100
so, immediately adjacent to the

2033
01:13:13,100 --> 01:13:16,100
property--go back to this one.

2034
01:13:18,100 --> 01:13:22,801
-- so, to the west there is the

2035
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:26,401
single family zoning district.

2036
01:13:27,100 --> 01:13:29,100
farther west is the mix of the

2037
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:32,100
duplexes and the single family

2038
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:35,100
homes, but it is zoned rp3.

2039
01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:36,100
and then to the south is the

2040
01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:38,401
traditional r1 single family

2041
01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:41,100
homes and then to the east the

2042
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:43,100
rp2 has duplexes.

2043
01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:45,100
that is within the immediate

2044
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:46,100
area.

2045
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:47,100
>> okay.

2046
01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:48,100
so, they all are?

2047
01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:49,100
>> uh-huh.

2048
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:50,100
>> okay.

2049
01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:52,100
down south on sunnybrook that

2050
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:53,100
apartment complex that was

2051
01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:56,100
brought up,b it is two stories,

2052
01:13:56,100 --> 01:13:57,100
is that correct?

2053
01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:58,100
>> yes.

2054
01:13:58,100 --> 01:14:01,601
the ones located here are about

2055
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:04,100
two stories.

2056
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:06,100
multiplex and attached townhomes

2057
01:14:06,100 --> 01:14:07,100
there.

2058
01:14:07,100 --> 01:14:08,100
>> okay.

2059
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:09,100
do we know where the closest

2060
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:12,100
three story one would be?

2061
01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:14,100
is it some of the new ones

2062
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:16,100
coming in out west or where is

2063
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:18,401
the closest 3 story apartment

2064
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:23,100
complex to the proposed site?

2065
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:24,100
>> would you mind repeating the

2066
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:26,100
last portion a little louder,

2067
01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:27,100
please?

2068
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:29,100
>> sure, do we know what the

2069
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:31,100
closest 3 story apartment

2070
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:33,100
complex is to this site?

2071
01:14:33,100 --> 01:14:36,100
>> apartment complex no, but the

2072
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:38,100
assisted living centers are in

2073
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:41,100
the r4 on the screen there,

2074
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:43,401
which are taller products.

2075
01:14:44,100 --> 01:14:46,100
>> commissioner bergida, I will

2076
01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:48,100
add a bit since I see the recent

2077
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:50,100
developments.

2078
01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:53,601
west down college and west of

2079
01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:57,100
k7, south that there is r3 in

2080
01:14:57,100 --> 01:14:58,100
the ground for 3 story

2081
01:14:58,100 --> 01:14:59,100
apartments.

2082
01:14:59,100 --> 01:15:02,100
as you get closer to the cedar

2083
01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:04,100
creek south glen area, that

2084
01:15:04,100 --> 01:15:06,100
recently went through two years

2085
01:15:06,100 --> 01:15:07,100
ago.

2086
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:09,100
north of college, so northeast

2087
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:11,100
of k7 and college, those are 4

2088
01:15:11,100 --> 01:15:14,100
and 5 story apartments closer to

2089
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:17,100
aldi approved recently as well.

2090
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:20,100
>> thank you.

2091
01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:21,100
>> okay.

2092
01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:22,100
any other questions from

2093
01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:23,100
commissioners?

2094
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:24,100
commissioner breen.

2095
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:25,100
>> thank you mr. Chair.

2096
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:27,100
the one thing I saw missing from

2097
01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:30,100
the packet and talked about it

2098
01:15:30,100 --> 01:15:31,100
from the applicant presentation,

2099
01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:34,100
but the topography or elevation

2100
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:36,100
from where the houses are to the

2101
01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:38,100
west to where this property is

2102
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:40,100
going to be developed.

2103
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:42,100
what is the sight line where the

2104
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:43,100
homes?

2105
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:45,100
is that plan multifamily

2106
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:47,100
development same elevation,

2107
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:48,100
lower or higher?

2108
01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:49,100
trying to get a sense of the

2109
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:52,100
scale of the buildings will look

2110
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:53,100
like from the west.

2111
01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:55,100
>> previously the elevation

2112
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:58,100
change from--switch here.

2113
01:15:59,100 --> 01:16:01,100
it is hard to tell.

2114
01:16:01,100 --> 01:16:02,100
start here.

2115
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:04,100
it sits up higher along

2116
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:07,100
sunnybrook and it slopes down

2117
01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:09,100
towards the southwest there, so

2118
01:16:09,100 --> 01:16:10,100
where the stream corridor and

2119
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:12,100
trail are.

2120
01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:14,100
same as where the single family

2121
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:18,100
homes are as well, so it slopes.

2122
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:21,601
so, without line of sights or

2123
01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:23,100
architecture, I dont have an

2124
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:26,100
exact line of sight of what they

2125
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:29,100
would see, but based on the 3

2126
01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:30,100
story and where they are sitting

2127
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:32,100
they are most likely able to see

2128
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:35,100
the roof pitch of the proposed

2129
01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:37,100
single family just based where

2130
01:16:37,100 --> 01:16:38,100
it sits.

2131
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:39,100
>> okay and that type of

2132
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:40,100
information is something we see

2133
01:16:40,100 --> 01:16:42,100
at the preliminary site

2134
01:16:42,100 --> 01:16:43,100
development, right?

2135
01:16:43,100 --> 01:16:44,100
>> yes.

2136
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:46,100
>> thank you.

2137
01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:48,100
>> any additional questions from

2138
01:16:48,100 --> 01:16:50,100
commissioners?

2139
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:56,100
thank you mrs. Vande velde.

2140
01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:58,100
seeing none, I call for a motion

2141
01:16:58,100 --> 01:17:00,100
on rz26-0006.

2142
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:12,100
>> mr. Chair, make a motion we

2143
01:17:12,100 --> 01:17:15,100
approve rz26-0006 as stipulated

2144
01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:25,100
by staff.

2145
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:26,100
>> thank you commissioner

2146
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:27,100
terrones.

2147
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:28,100
do I have a second?

2148
01:17:28,100 --> 01:17:29,100
>> second.

2149
01:17:29,100 --> 01:17:30,100
>> thank you commissioner breen.

2150
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:33,601
move forward on roll call vote.

2151
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:36,100
>> commissioner terrones, yes.

2152
01:17:37,100 --> 01:17:39,100
commissioner bergida, no.

2153
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:41,100
commissioner chapman, yes.

2154
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:44,100
commissioner lynn, yes.

2155
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:47,100
commissioner breen, yes.

2156
01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:49,100
commissioner brown, yes.

2157
01:17:49,100 --> 01:17:51,100
chair janner,

2158
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:53,401
>> final points on this.

2159
01:17:54,100 --> 01:17:57,100
before we wrap this up.

2160
01:17:57,100 --> 01:18:00,100
I do see the importance of this

2161
01:18:00,100 --> 01:18:01,100
area without question as

2162
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:03,401
discussed extensively as we

2163
01:18:04,100 --> 01:18:06,100
reviewed the elevate olathe plan

2164
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:10,100
and I'll share as mr. Nelson is

2165
01:18:10,100 --> 01:18:13,100
a hutchinson native, excited for

2166
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:15,100
dillons coming to town and the

2167
01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:17,100
advantage it brings to this

2168
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:20,100
immediate area but west side of

2169
01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:21,100
olathe.

2170
01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:22,100
I also important to note that

2171
01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:25,100
this is just step one.

2172
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:28,100
I see the zoning change as

2173
01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:30,100
advantage with 30 plus years in

2174
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:32,100
real estate I can tell from a

2175
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:33,100
property value point of view, I

2176
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:35,100
rather see that then the light

2177
01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:36,100
industrial.

2178
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:38,100
that has been my experience, so

2179
01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:40,100
I think it is actually moving in

2180
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:43,100
the right direction there, which

2181
01:18:43,100 --> 01:18:44,100
would be approved under the

2182
01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:46,100
current zoning.

2183
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:48,100
and I think elevate olathe is

2184
01:18:48,100 --> 01:18:50,100
very clear this is where it

2185
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:52,100
needs to be done but we will be

2186
01:18:52,100 --> 01:18:53,100
looking closely at the final

2187
01:18:53,100 --> 01:18:55,100
development plan and make sure

2188
01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:58,100
some of the concerns addressed

2189
01:18:58,100 --> 01:18:59,100
tonight still have a opportunity

2190
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:01,100
to look at closely and making

2191
01:19:01,100 --> 01:19:03,100
sure what goes in does address

2192
01:19:03,100 --> 01:19:04,100
those things as well.

2193
01:19:04,100 --> 01:19:06,401
I will vote yes.

2194
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:10,401
>> the motion passes 6-1.

2195
01:19:12,100 --> 01:19:13,100
>> okay, do we have

2196
01:19:13,100 --> 01:19:14,100
announcements from staff this

2197
01:19:14,100 --> 01:19:15,100
evening?

2198
01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:16,100
>> none.

2199
01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:17,100
thank you.

2200
01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:19,100
>> that being said, this meeting

2201
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:21,100
is adjourned.

2202
01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:23,100
[meeting adjourned]