1 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:11,679 All right. Good evening everyone. We'll call the Ovette City Council meeting on 2 00:00:08,559 --> 00:00:14,400 August 25th, 2026 to order. Please, can we please have roll call? 3 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:16,560 » Mayor Lewis >> here. 4 00:00:14,799 --> 00:00:18,160 » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman >> here. 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,840 » Council member Clark >> here. 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,359 » Council member Solomonov >> here. 7 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:24,880 » Council member Durgel >> here. 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:28,320 » All righty. Uh, are there any communications to share at this time? 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:32,800 » I have no written communications. All right, we'll move on to item number 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:38,520 three, city manager report, please. >> Good evening. 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,520 Let me 12 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:44,120 share my screen. 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:59,120 » We were late, so sorry. >> All right. Um, good evening everyone. 14 00:00:57,039 --> 00:01:06,240 Um, so, um, I have a number of upcoming events. We are winding up summer and, 15 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:12,400 uh, fall is always super busy for us. So, we encourage everybody to come out 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:18,159 to Paris Baguette, um, August 31st, which is next Monday between 8 and 10:00 17 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:23,119 a.m. in the morning to meet with one of our, uh, police officers. So, coffee 18 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:27,680 with a cop uh, will be during that time. There will be coffee and some limited 19 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:32,159 free pastries. So, if you have not had a chance to uh try a pastry at Paris 20 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:39,880 Baguette, this would be a great opportunity to do that, as well as uh 21 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,880 come talk to one of Olivet's finests. 22 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:49,520 Uh and September 15th is Night Out. So, this is an opportunity for you and your 23 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:56,159 neighbors to gather to have a block party and then if you sign up uh some 24 00:01:52,960 --> 00:02:00,000 oliveette city officials, including the uh police officers, the fire department, 25 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:05,840 you might get the fire truck or the ambulance uh to come and to stop by and 26 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:10,560 to say hello um meet and greet with uh our oliveette community. So, um we would 27 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:14,480 encourage all of the neighbors to go ahead and sign up. If you have 28 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:19,560 questions, uh, please reach out to Lieutenant Selzer in the police 29 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,560 department. 30 00:02:20,959 --> 00:02:27,840 And every year we do the Battle of the Badges, which is a competition between 31 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:33,040 the fire department and the police department. Uh, it is essentially a 32 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:38,560 blood drive for the American Red Cross. And both our fire department and our 33 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:44,560 police department have compelling stories, personal stories about 34 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:49,760 grandchildren uh and their need for blood, hence the blood drive. And so 35 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:54,959 individuals who come and donate blood are given an opportunity to cast a vote 36 00:02:52,879 --> 00:03:00,480 for either the police department or the fire department. Um and at the you know 37 00:02:57,519 --> 00:03:07,280 at the end of the drive the winning department receives some gift from the 38 00:03:04,959 --> 00:03:12,800 losing department. Um the fire department has more years that they have 39 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:17,920 won uh than the police department. So come out donate for a good cause to the 40 00:03:14,959 --> 00:03:25,120 American cross and then choose which public safety group is your favorite. 41 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:31,680 Trivia night is being hosted at Five Oaks on September 18th. There are nine 42 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:36,879 tables left, so bring your friends uh for a table of eight. The theme this 43 00:03:33,519 --> 00:03:42,959 year is 90s and 2000s sitcoms, so there should be something for everyone. Um 44 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:48,080 register for your table and we hope to see you there. I think there's at least 45 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:53,760 one staff table. Um and I think a couple other folks have gotten um tables for 46 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,760 the trivia night. 47 00:03:53,840 --> 00:04:01,360 The great Olivet cleanout is happening again. It is at Five Oaks on Warson. 48 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:05,439 This is a change from um Stacy Park. So in years past it's been at Stacy Park. 49 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:11,519 This year it is at Five Oaks on Warson. It's on the lower parking lot. So this 50 00:04:08,239 --> 00:04:16,720 is an opportunity for residents to either have documents shredded if you 51 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:21,199 have some of those in your office or your home office. This is not for um a 52 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:25,360 business cleanout, but if you do have a home office and you have documents that 53 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:31,680 you would like shredded or if you have any um e-waste, so almost anything with 54 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:34,560 a cord, uh they will take and uh recycle those for you. 55 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,440 » Do you know if it's still a drive-thru? >> Yes, as far as I know, it is still a 56 00:04:35,919 --> 00:04:42,800 drive-thru. And so there is a very specific route for you to uh to come 57 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:47,840 through. They will take the items um out of your vehicle. It's very easy. you 58 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:51,680 should be um in and out in not much time at all. So, and we did receive the 59 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:55,880 grant. So, we've signed off on that and we did receive the grant for this. 60 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:03,120 » The fall and winter activity guide is out. These are all of the recreational 61 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:07,600 programs that the city is offering through the fall and the winter. We have 62 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:12,080 some hard copies out in the lobby if you would like. Uh it's also on the city's 63 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:15,520 website and should be hitting should actually be in homes already. So, we 64 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:21,120 would encourage you to check those out. We have activities for all ages. 65 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:27,759 And then I just always encourage everyone to sign up for weekly, which is 66 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:34,639 our weekly e newswsletter. And then just some general city updates. 67 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:39,680 Um, our new finance director, Julia Gwyn, starts tomorrow. So, we probably 68 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:45,600 uh in September, we will bringing be bringing her to council to to introduce 69 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:51,360 her. Uh we are recruiting for another police officer. Uh two weeks ago I told 70 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:55,840 you that we had made conditional officer offers to two individuals. Uh one of 71 00:05:54,240 --> 00:06:00,240 them accepted. They are in the pre-employment screening phase. Um the 72 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:05,120 other candidate decided that uh he was going to remain at his uh his place of 73 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:09,120 employment. Um and then the follow-up from the Hicks Carter Hicks the 74 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:14,160 employment engagement committee is meeting this week. They're going to 75 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:20,720 start working on um employee recognition and then um I have asked Hicks Carter 76 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:26,560 Hicks to craft a proposal to help the city with an internal communications 77 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:31,840 plan. uh one of the uh comments and areas of deficiency on the survey was 78 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:37,680 communication and that's a pretty broad um topic and so I do think working with 79 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:42,240 them to create and improve some of our internal communications is a good start 80 00:06:39,759 --> 00:06:46,479 to making headway on that uh survey result. Are they going to talk to 81 00:06:44,479 --> 00:06:49,759 employees to understand kind of like what I I know they have the survey 82 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,639 results, but to understand like where they saw gaps in communication. Will 83 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,520 they have those conversations before they craft? 84 00:06:53,919 --> 00:06:57,280 » They're going to craft me a proposal to do it. So like we'll get a scope of 85 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,680 work. >> Oh, proposal to even reach out and talk 86 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:05,240 to people. Gotcha. >> Correct. Not build a plan and then say 87 00:07:01,599 --> 00:07:05,240 Okay. Correct. Gotcha. 88 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:12,880 » Uh and then here are your upcoming meeting dates. And so with that, I can 89 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:18,560 answer any council questions. questions? 90 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:21,680 No. All right. Thank you very much. >> All right. We are going to move on to 91 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,639 staff reports, please, then. >> All right. Uh, starting with fire 92 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:31,599 department. So, we often talk about the fire department and their um 93 00:07:27,919 --> 00:07:35,520 firefighting training and their um calls for fire. But I thought this month we 94 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:41,680 might just kind of highlight the fact that they do run an ambulance and that 95 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:46,479 takes a a good amount of their time. They actually run quite a few medical 96 00:07:43,199 --> 00:07:51,120 calls. So just uh looking at this chart, this is on 97 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:55,039 average about five calls a day that they're running. Um, as you can see, 98 00:07:53,360 --> 00:08:01,599 they spend a lot of time in the city of Alvette, but we are also contracted for 99 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:07,440 um, fire service, fire and EMS service for the pocket of uninccorporated that's 100 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:11,199 just north of us on Dealman. So, we respond there. St. Louis County 101 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:17,680 contracts with us, pays us to provide that service to them. And then we do get 102 00:08:13,599 --> 00:08:23,280 called out of town um often to um Creve Corps or U City um or certain things on 103 00:08:21,599 --> 00:08:31,440 the highway we might get called out for for both police and or for EMS and fire 104 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:37,279 parks and wreck. Uh we just finished earlier this month uh municipals. So, 105 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:45,360 municipals is this uh part of this photo right here is h offered every other year 106 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:51,839 and it is a camp that highlights the city departments. So, the police 107 00:08:47,839 --> 00:08:57,120 department had a day and brought out the mounted patrol from St. Charles County, 108 00:08:54,959 --> 00:09:05,279 brought out some therapy dogs, brought out some um other fun police things. The 109 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:08,560 fire department had a day had an half a day and they got to go down the slide 110 00:09:06,959 --> 00:09:14,560 and the fire department because we have a slide and not a pole and they got to 111 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:18,640 do some other fun uh firefighter things. This particular picture we had an 112 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:24,560 opportunity to partner with Emerson who is a business here in the city of 113 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:29,440 Alvette and they came and did uh science things with uh with the kids. So they 114 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:33,760 did the egg drop project um learning about gravity and um force distribution 115 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:38,240 and things like that. And so the kids had a good time. And then the other 116 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:43,760 thing with uh the parks department, this happens to be the segment uh one of the 117 00:09:40,959 --> 00:09:47,600 new segments of the Centennial Greenway. So now that that greenway has been in 118 00:09:45,839 --> 00:09:52,480 for more than one year, maintenance falls to the city. And so this is our um 119 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:58,720 horiculturalist and our park staff who are clearing um 120 00:09:55,680 --> 00:10:03,320 clearing the fence lines uh along along that particular section of the trail 121 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:12,240 planning department. So these are fiscal year to date. So from June of 25 through 122 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:19,040 July uh no I'm sorry July of 25 through June of this year. So, as you can see, 123 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:24,320 um they were pretty consistent. Uh lots of people got their roof replaced um in 124 00:10:22,079 --> 00:10:31,040 this particular fiscal year, most likely from uh the storm that came through in 125 00:10:27,519 --> 00:10:37,519 um in this in May of last year. Um and we see a lot of um tenant finishes. So, 126 00:10:34,959 --> 00:10:42,720 this could be like reinvestment by businesses or new businesses coming in 127 00:10:39,839 --> 00:10:48,320 or updates to businesses. Uh so this is a good sign and what has um been keeping 128 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:54,600 one aspect of what has been keeping um Carlos and his staff very busy over the 129 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,600 course of the year. 130 00:10:54,800 --> 00:11:04,320 The police department uh officer Bagsby, this is Officer Bagsby here. He went to 131 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:09,440 Aphina Healthc Care's event um talking about gun safety in particular uh 132 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:14,720 gunlocks. The Alvette Police Department donated 50 gunlocks for this particular 133 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:19,519 event. So, this is just a reminder that our police department has gunlocks 134 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:23,920 available to anyone in the community who is interested. There's no cost. Uh, and 135 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:28,880 they are available Monday through Friday, normal business hours. Just go 136 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:34,200 see the records clerk um here at city center uh if that's something that you 137 00:11:30,959 --> 00:11:34,200 are interested. 138 00:11:34,959 --> 00:11:43,920 And then public works. Um, if you have driven at Price, North Price and Olive, 139 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:49,279 you have seen a lot of work there. Uh, this happens to be the contractor. They 140 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:56,240 did some paving overnight. They did a really um a really nice job on that 141 00:11:52,079 --> 00:12:04,880 work. The work here at the 9201 Olive site where um the CBDraton building was, 142 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:10,560 there has been a delay. It is not a delay related to the city. 143 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:14,320 It is a delay because a a pipe wasn't where wasn't as deep as we thought it 144 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:18,560 was. That required some changes to storm 145 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:23,200 water drains that MDOT took a long time trying to figure out what they wanted. 146 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:27,279 Um but work is moving forward. In fact, Spire was on site today moving the gas 147 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:32,240 line that needed to be moved in order to accommodate um the storm drain. So, 148 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:37,600 we're a little bit behind on where we thought we would be to close out this 149 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:42,240 project. Um, but it is related to situations beyond our control. And then 150 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:46,800 we do have some good news. So, as you might recall, we um put in for a grant 151 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:54,320 for um reconstruction of North Price between 152 00:12:50,240 --> 00:13:01,360 Delmare and Old Bonum um an STPS grant. And while we have not received the grant 153 00:12:56,560 --> 00:13:06,639 yet, we are on the recommended list. So, um, East Swiss Gateway meets later this 154 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:12,160 week to review that recommended list and hopefully approve that list and 155 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:17,600 hopefully we will be approved so that we can um move forward 156 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:22,639 with reconstruction of that section of North Price. It is a multi-year project. 157 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:26,079 So there will be design time and right-of-way acquisition time and then 158 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:33,279 construction time. So it's looking probably a 3 to four year long u process 159 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:39,120 and that is all I have unless you have any additional questions for me. 160 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,600 » Questions? Pencil? No, it's very thorough. Thank you very much. 161 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:48,120 » Thank you. >> All right, we will move on to monthly 162 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,120 financial reports, please. 163 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:13,360 All right, I am filling in for our interim finance director who um she had 164 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:22,440 a previously scheduled event this evening. So um you are seeing the report 165 00:14:17,199 --> 00:14:22,440 for the second month of the year. Um 166 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:33,040 as you can see we are we are on track. Um general revenue started the year 167 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:38,720 above expectations by about $37,000. General fund expenditures are also above 168 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:44,320 expectations. Um this is normal. We have a variety of um like all of our 169 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:50,079 insuranceances are due. So workers comp, liability, property, all of that is due 170 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:55,199 um at the very beginning of the year. So um that's not unexpected. 171 00:14:53,040 --> 00:15:00,320 Um it does result in an unfavorable variance. But again, we are um this is 172 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:06,560 the July financial report. So at this point, we were one month into uh into 173 00:15:03,199 --> 00:15:12,880 the into the into the year. Um it is not unusual for property taxes 174 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:19,360 to be slow. Again, we get those in um December and January. 175 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:24,320 And um parks and wreck revenues started the year mixed um and they do um they 176 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:29,360 exceeded budget projections due to high soccer enrollments. So soccer is very 177 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:35,680 very popular. And then the chart of our month, this is our monthly uh 1% sales 178 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:40,079 tax, which we took out a bunch of the noise. If you might remember past 179 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:46,720 graphs, there were a lot of lines there. So this is just the last two years. So 180 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:53,120 fiscal 25, fiscal 26 and then where we are um for 27. So we are of course 181 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:56,800 higher than 25 and a little bit below um of 26. 182 00:15:55,279 --> 00:15:59,839 So if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer those for you. 183 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:05,120 » We anticipate a drop off or I don't remember what the drop off. Yeah, 184 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:12,560 » we don't anticipate the drop off, but I will say sales tax tends to be cyclical. 185 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:17,120 So, anything that we uh receive in September is actually from people buying 186 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:20,959 things in July because it's always a two-month lag. 187 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:29,440 » Um, so we could it could also be um July is a 188 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:34,639 is half the year and a quarter of the year. And so there are certain entities 189 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:37,920 that only report sales tax half of the year, half of the way through the year 190 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:44,560 and a quarter of the way through the year. So that um drop off could have 191 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:50,240 been somebody missed the cut off. Um so there are a variety of of factors that 192 00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:53,519 could um account for that. >> But it bounced back up bounced back up. 193 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:58,240 » Correct. Yeah. >> Correct. particularly if it's um they 194 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:03,480 just miss the cut off because then you get to you know you get it the next 195 00:17:00,079 --> 00:17:03,480 month. So 196 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:07,039 » that's all I have unless you have anything else. 197 00:17:05,919 --> 00:17:08,319 » No. Any questions? >> No. 198 00:17:07,919 --> 00:17:12,400 » Okay. >> All right. Thank you. All right. We're 199 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,439 going to move on to city council liaison reports for each council member to give 200 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:21,360 an update of kind of activities they've been up to. Uh council member Clark, 201 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:25,600 » I have no reports at this time. Council member Jurgal. 202 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:30,400 » Uh we had a parks meeting. Um most of the meeting was the installation of two 203 00:17:27,439 --> 00:17:35,760 new commissioners. So uh was kind of orient or orienting them to the process. 204 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:42,320 And it was great going through it again because u uh they went over all of you 205 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:45,919 know of city government and uh I know I was given the training beforehand but 206 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:50,400 when you hear it the second time it sinks in a little bit more. So that's 207 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:55,200 always good. Um, one other thing that's coming up with uh the parks is going to 208 00:17:52,799 --> 00:18:01,120 be the review of the Indian Meadows uh pavilions. So, that that's on their 209 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:06,960 agenda and uh should be moving along. >> Great. Uh, Council Member Sono. 210 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:11,840 » Uh, no report for me this evening. I do have an EDC meeting next Monday. 211 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,440 » It's on. >> It's 212 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:20,240 Oh, the light is hitting my mistake. It's my first day. All right. uh 213 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:26,880 chairman promis I attended the PCDC meeting on August 214 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:33,919 20th and at that meeting an outdoor uh metal canopy was approved for the brass 215 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:38,320 tap to help extend the seasons for them um and extend some seating outside 216 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:44,320 during the wintertime months. So, that was approved. Um, and that the roof of 217 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:50,080 that structure will stay throughout the year, but then there's a wall kind of 218 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:55,120 enclosure that's temporary for the uh months of November through Feb fe 219 00:18:52,160 --> 00:19:00,720 November through February. Um, we also discussed continued 220 00:18:57,120 --> 00:19:06,320 discussing a text amendment for coin operated laundromats. 221 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:12,880 Um and a new single family home was approved for 1123 Hilltop 222 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:18,559 and uh also had discussion on a text amendment to allow for other warehousing 223 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:27,600 and storage that would be specifically for car condominiums. 224 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:32,240 So, these are uh spaces that would be um condominiums that would be sold to 225 00:19:29,679 --> 00:19:39,840 individuals uh who would likely store their luxury cars, potentially 226 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:47,039 um RVs and boats. Um but they would be individual condominiums. So, kind of a 227 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:53,360 new thing um coming before the commission and and so it's um at the 228 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:57,679 discussion stage at this point. Um and that's all. Thank you. 229 00:19:54,640 --> 00:20:01,679 » Great. Uh a couple of things. I had the privilege of speaking uh chamber of 230 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,520 commerce uh for the state of the city and it's an opportunity where I get to 231 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:09,919 go and give a state of the city of how we're doing from an economic and 232 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:13,440 residential and development and just how we're overall you know what is all of 233 00:20:11,919 --> 00:20:18,720 that and get to brag on all of that which was very exciting and a big thank 234 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:22,000 you to staff Kiana and uh others for helping you know draft things put 235 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,720 together a great slideshow and it was you know really wellreceived and get and 236 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,480 get to meet some people there so that was really nice and then today I 237 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:32,559 attended the Olivet housing authority uh where they had a few procedural items 238 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:35,520 reviewing the financial audit reports approving other things talking about 239 00:20:33,919 --> 00:20:39,440 next steps on everything around some of the policies we're moving forward on the 240 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:47,679 housing. So that that is progressing as well. Um and then um yeah those were 241 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:51,440 things that I got to attend. So uh we'll move on to item seven items from council 242 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:54,880 members. So, a chance for us just if we've been hearing things that you want 243 00:20:53,120 --> 00:21:00,640 to bring up for a future topic, we won't go deep into them now. And uh just a 244 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,919 open forum. >> Nope. 245 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:05,600 » Nothing for me. >> All right. No, 246 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:09,120 » nothing for me. >> Nothing for me either. The only things 247 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,240 I'll mention um since not everyone probably was able to attend previous 248 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:16,000 meetings we've had and since I see a lot of uh speakers here which is going to be 249 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:19,679 great is we did at a previous work session a few weeks ago discuss the 250 00:21:17,679 --> 00:21:22,640 Indian Meadows Pavilion and as uh council member Joel mentioned that's 251 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:26,080 going to come before parks and wreck where they're going to we asked to go 252 00:21:24,159 --> 00:21:30,159 back to their ask for their assessment and then it'll come back to the council 253 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:33,120 at that point um and we'd given the direction to look at what it would take 254 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:37,120 to remove and what their thoughts were and then uh we'll get their feedback on 255 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:41,760 that. uh previous meeting we'd obviously discussed block cameras with the uh 256 00:21:39,679 --> 00:21:45,600 chief of police and so that will be on a future agenda so just calling that out 257 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:51,960 as well as the NIT policy will be on a future uh agenda in the future as well 258 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,960 uh and then obvious 259 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:58,000 uh I imagine people here to speak as well and so appreciated that we had 260 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,799 committed ID committed back that we're going to meet with our legal team to 261 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:04,880 understand what options all of it has because it is a unique situation and 262 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:07,919 then uh happy to meet with the concerned citizens themselves and any council are 263 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,840 welcome to join me to want to hear everyone's you know concerns in person 264 00:22:09,919 --> 00:22:16,400 and understand everything and then after that we'll take whatever the appropriate 265 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:19,440 actions that we can and don't know what those are right now can't promise 266 00:22:17,919 --> 00:22:23,760 anything but you know want to hear from everyone and then we'll we'll see what 267 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:26,880 comes of that so all right uh we're going to move on to hearing from 268 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:30,559 citizens so this is a portion of the agenda where anyone present in person or 269 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:34,320 virtually may address the city council regarding any topic including those 270 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:38,000 later in the agenda each speaker is allowed up three minutes to address the 271 00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:41,520 mayor and city council. Hearing from citizens is designed for councils to 272 00:22:39,679 --> 00:22:45,520 receive feedback rather than for a direct dialogue. We will take speakers 273 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,480 in person first followed by any online. If you are in person, please complete a 274 00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:52,480 speaker card and give it to the clerk. If you've already given your card to the 275 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:55,600 clerk, we will take you in the order submitted on your card. If you are 276 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:59,679 online, wish to speak, please use the raise your hand feature and you will be 277 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:03,280 added as a speaker. For all speakers, we ask that you state your name and address 278 00:23:01,679 --> 00:23:08,000 for the record prior to leaving the remarks and that you keep the three 279 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:14,679 minutes and just so for the equity for everyone. So, uh, first are Nancy and 280 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,679 Bob Martin, please. 281 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:23,120 And if you don't mind turning on the mic, please. 282 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:28,320 » Yep. Perfect. 283 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:33,039 » Um, good evening. My name is Bob Martin. Nancy Martin 284 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:40,159 » and we live at 39 Brford. Um, last week we sent all you guys an email regarding 285 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:45,200 uh AZZ and a Missouri uh state statute. Uh, this is concerning AZ galvanizing. 286 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,880 Um, thank you Mr. Mayor for responding. >> Yes. 287 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:54,480 » Um, following are excer ex excuse me excerpts from the Missouri state chapter 288 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:59,120 220 nuisance. nuisances. A nuisance is any act done or committed or suffered to 289 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:03,760 be done, committed by any person or any substance or thing kept, maintained, 290 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:08,320 placed or found in any public or private property that is injurous to the public 291 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:14,080 health, safety or welfare. are to permit premises to become unsightly, 292 00:24:09,919 --> 00:24:19,039 unsanitary, or obnoxious or obl to the vicini to the vicinity or offensive to 293 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:23,919 the senses of users of the public way abudding the premises that depreciates 294 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:28,559 the enjoyment and the use of the property in the immediate vicinity to 295 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:34,000 such an extent that it is harmful to the community in which the property is 296 00:24:30,159 --> 00:24:38,000 situated or such a condition exists. AZZ Galvanizing fits every one of these 297 00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:42,480 definitions of a nuisance. It's zoned light industrial, but it's expanded 298 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:46,960 several times over the years. It's not light industrial anymore. We are asking 299 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:54,320 Alvette to protect its citizens from this nuisance and use statute title 7 300 00:24:50,640 --> 00:25:00,720 cities, towns, and villages chapter 71.7 I'm sorry 71.780 301 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:05,520 nuisances expensive suppression how paid the noise and toxic emissions are 302 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:12,000 unbearable and hazardous to our neighbors health and quality of life and 303 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:16,080 ours. Uh, we are sleeping in our bedroom that faces away from ACZ because we 304 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:20,480 can't sleep in our master bedroom anymore from the noise. We can't enjoy 305 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,720 our beautiful yard. We've lived in Olivet for 32 years. It's home. Um, 306 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:30,000 » please help us. >> Please help us. 307 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:35,600 Um, they're getting worse and worse. And we're up on Brford High where the 308 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:39,760 noise really hits us, but our neighbors in Indian Meadows are just getting 309 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,799 creamed. They're getting gassed. It's terrible. But thank you very much for 310 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,679 coming. Really appreciate it. >> Thank you. 311 00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:46,840 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 312 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:52,919 » All right. Uh moving on. Uh Jenny Littleton. 313 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:07,919 Hi, my name is Jenny Littleton. I live at 9639 Haron Drive. I just want to ask 314 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:13,679 my city council if they would please support and help all of the residents 315 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:18,559 deal with this do's a galvanizing. It's to the point where my son who's 316 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:25,919 seven, he's beginning to have temper tantrums because he has a trampoline, a 317 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:31,600 basketball hoop, a soccer net that now he can't play because when he begins to 318 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:37,120 play, I have to make him come in. And so now he's getting upset, stumping yelling 319 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,960 in the house. What's the purpose of me having this if I can't play? When are 320 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:48,080 they going to move that company? He's seven years old. This is the point where 321 00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:52,080 he doesn't have temper tantrums. Now he's having them because he's not 322 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:58,960 getting to play outside. And this was for the summer. So, I had to make fun 323 00:26:55,120 --> 00:27:02,240 activities in my basement. So, I mean, now the children, it's to the point 324 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:05,919 where I'm asking the kids and my subdivision, you you guys got to go home 325 00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:10,400 now. You can't play here. Can we come back when the smoke is gone? Yes, you 326 00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:14,400 can come back. So, now the kids, it's just getting to be too much. And then 327 00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:17,919 also, I'm I know you brought up about you're going to bring it up with the 328 00:27:15,679 --> 00:27:22,480 parks and you guys are going to redisuss about the pavilion. Please move that 329 00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:27,919 pavilion. There's so much going on that my son is seven. He said, "There's 330 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:32,559 always something going on over here at this pavilion. Problems every day. He's 331 00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:37,520 seven. There was a time he didn't know anything about that. Now he's seven." 332 00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:40,640 And he's saying these things. And one of the neighbors, she couldn't be here 333 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:45,600 today. She did ask me, "Until you guys decide about how you're going to move 334 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:49,360 it, would you please at least move the tables underneath the pavilion while you 335 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:54,240 guys are trying to figure out how you're going to move that pavilion?" So until 336 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:58,399 you have a due date when you're going to move it, could you please at least move 337 00:27:55,919 --> 00:28:02,399 the tables? Cuz a lot of that buffoonery that happens in the morning, afternoon, 338 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:07,600 and night, they won't have anywhere to sit and lay and do all of that extra 339 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:11,679 activity that's unwanted and that we don't need. So I just wanted to ask you 340 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,679 guys, would you please bless our community to help all the residents 341 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:20,399 dealing with a galvanizing and the nuisance unwanted pavilion, please? 342 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:23,640 Thank you so much. Thank you very much for coming. 343 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:31,480 All right. Uh Willamina Shackleford, please. 344 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:40,480 » Good evening. >> Willamina Shackle for 9656 here on 345 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:48,080 first. I'm in agreement with Nancy and Bob. It is horrible and re lately it's 346 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:51,520 just roars so loud. 3:00 am, four o'clock. It wakes you up and then you 347 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:55,679 can't go back to sleep. They'll turn it off or turn it down maybe about 7:30, I 348 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:59,760 guess, when they figure people or whatever's going on. But it's just been 349 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,440 ridiculous. Just ridiculous. And we haven't really said a lot because, you 350 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:07,520 know, that there were attorneys working on it. So, you know, we want to continue 351 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:11,520 that. But we need the help of the city. So, I hope that that uh state statute 352 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:19,679 will help. I got a couple other things real quick. Um, one is our park and I 353 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:23,520 know when they redid the the uh the trail, but they didn't do anything to 354 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:28,880 the park. Is that on Olivet? It's kind of bumpy. You know, it's the asphalt, 355 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:33,360 the black that's in the actual park in Indian Meadows. So, it's kind of crumbly 356 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:39,600 in some areas. So, the other concern is we have two spaces in uh the new park 357 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:43,919 area that when it we get heavy rain, it's full of water. So the kids go out 358 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:48,000 there and play. Then they muddy muddy up everything which is by the water park. 359 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:52,320 And then the other area is by the playground area around one of the trees 360 00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:57,520 is set real low so if we can get that build back up so that the water won't 361 00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:01,200 set there. Um the other one is the trees. We have a lot of dead trees. I 362 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:06,480 know they've cut some down but when we get any kind of a rain or wind, I should 363 00:30:03,919 --> 00:30:10,080 say wind, there's branches all over the park. And I realize it's more than one 364 00:30:08,159 --> 00:30:13,200 park. So sometimes it take them a while. But then the kids are playing and you 365 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:19,600 got these big branches that are laying all over the park trail. Uh, one more 366 00:30:15,679 --> 00:30:22,960 thing. How chickens. We got the chicken coupoops gone from 367 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:27,279 the side of the house, but there is a pin. So, I've asked over and over about 368 00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:30,960 an ordinance to be written so that I don't care about the chickens, but they 369 00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:36,080 need to be fenced in in the back of the house and not in the very front. 370 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:40,799 This these chicken coops were on the front on the side of the home. and I've 371 00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:44,880 complained for a couple of years. And so it's my understanding that all of that 372 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,320 has been washed aside. I don't know if anybody knows if that is true, but I'm 373 00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:54,159 going to I'm going to research it that that's over. The governor was is the one 374 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:59,279 that uh approved that, but it's my understanding that they've been fighting 375 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:04,960 it. So, I don't know. But if not, can we get an ordinance where they are are 376 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:09,919 fenced in in the back? And then I think that's it. Um Oh. We have another area 377 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:16,799 in our subdivision and I've complained about it several times. We need some 378 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:20,720 help uh with uh enforcement of uh property upkeep. So, we got a lot of 379 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:25,679 issues with that, but I understand we only have one part-time person 380 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:34,320 and for this city, we could probably use one or two to just do property upkeep 381 00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:37,320 for the for uh all of the the entire uh et 382 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:47,600 Bruce is here. Brand view on the corner of Grand View and La Hoya. There are 383 00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:51,840 huge papa trees that have grown out into the street. I've asked you can't even 384 00:31:49,679 --> 00:31:55,600 see the street sign. The the trees were trimmed back right at the sign, but of 385 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:59,360 course they grow back. I'm asking that something be done about those trees 386 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,480 because it's really a hindrance. If you are coming up to the stop sign and 387 00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:07,519 somebody's coming from the other direction, these trees are huge and they 388 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:10,320 are actually in the street. You familiar with that? you know, been 389 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:15,039 over there in >> Asia. It's still there. It's just worse. 390 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:19,120 So, we have several areas where the trees are actually growing into the 391 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:23,679 street, ground up, not just hanging over. So, they actually block traffic. 392 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,200 » That's it. >> Thank you very much. 393 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:31,480 » Appreciate it. >> All right. Uh Stephanie Chop. 394 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:46,320 Hi. Uh, Stephanie Todd, 7 Heather Hill Lane. So, I'm here to support the 395 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:51,600 residents um near Indian Meadows and their complaints about AZZ as an Olivet 396 00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:57,519 resident, but also I'm representing the Sierra Club and Dark Sky, Missouri who 397 00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:03,039 have who the they have also gotten involved in these issues. There are 398 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:08,320 really three issues. Light trespass, potential air pollution, and noise. The 399 00:33:06,159 --> 00:33:13,760 light trespass that is occurring should be easy to take care of because St. 400 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:20,320 Louis County already has an ordinance against it. So, it'd be really good if 401 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:26,960 someone from Alvette notified the county that light trespass from AZ shining into 402 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:33,919 residents houses, shining off the property into residents houses and ask 403 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:38,640 az to shield their lights. No, air pollution and noise are more 404 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:42,960 difficult. However, Olivet can do something about it. The residents have 405 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:48,080 been complaining about AZ for at least two years. But they didn't give up. They 406 00:33:45,679 --> 00:33:54,240 found a regulation that cities can enforce ordinances up to a half mile 407 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:59,200 outside their boundaries. Alvette needs to step up and support its citizens. The 408 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:04,559 county does not have the necessary equipment to determine if ACC is 409 00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:09,839 emitting pollutants and to 410 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:16,639 and and to identify the pollutants. However, the outside groups that that 411 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:23,760 they're working with um they're trying to um install air monitors and analyze 412 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:30,079 air samples and noise monitors. So, I encourage you to work with them to get 413 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:35,760 data to back up their claims. Um, noise is a harder problem, but put 414 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:40,079 yourself in these resident shoes. How would you like to hear a loud bang 415 00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:43,520 several times in the middle of the night? 416 00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:48,480 I'm asking you to find a way to stop the loud noise at night and determine if az 417 00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:53,599 is polluting the air and if they are to try to stop them. These problems should 418 00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:57,359 not be ignored and all of it can and should do something about them. 419 00:34:55,919 --> 00:35:01,200 » Thank you very much. Appreciate your time. 420 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:05,400 » Right. Is there anyone else in the audience who wanted to speak? 421 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,599 » Good evening. >> Evening. 422 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:22,400 » My name is Denise Williams. I live at 9600 Hiron Drive. 423 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:27,200 I just have to say I live ac across the street from the park 424 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:34,359 where all this noise 425 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:34,359 have been going on for quite a while. 426 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:45,720 And hearing this noise all day 427 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,720 and throughout your time of rest 428 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:54,240 is depreciating your livelihood. 429 00:35:51,200 --> 00:36:00,000 I'm 70 and I'm not getting any rest. I've retired to come home and enjoy the 430 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:06,160 kids, enjoy my bed where I've been missing it for all this time. And then 431 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:11,680 you come home and you're hearing all of this unnecessary 432 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:18,079 noise that's not supposed to be a part of your life in Eloette. 433 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:24,520 I used to call Alvette when I moved here sleepy hollow. 434 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:24,520 Very quiet, very surreal. 435 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:35,839 That has been stolen. And 436 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:42,079 days and days and days have passed by and all of you all are sleeping 437 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:48,160 comfortably while we're up in the I walk the trail three times a day. You hear 438 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:54,000 it? It's supposed to be surreal on the um path. It's supposed to be something 439 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:57,000 great that you all have done for the community. 440 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:06,079 I don't think so. Cuz you're walking, you're smelling that 441 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:15,800 stuff big just so much smoke it covers the whole 442 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,800 park. The stench comes in your windows. 443 00:37:15,839 --> 00:37:24,839 You smell it at night. Not including the noise, but the smoke, 444 00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,839 the stench. 445 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:32,400 So imagine, close your eyes and imagine 446 00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:41,280 that's how your days are going. Every day you got to deal with this every day. 447 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:46,320 Your kids are inhaling this poison. 448 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:52,960 We're at 70. They're cutting years off our lives smelling it. I'm sure cuz it's 449 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:58,160 chemicals that we're absorbing into our bodies. the kids are absorbing over at 450 00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:02,800 the park that is so nice to have in the neighborhood, but it's being blown 451 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:07,839 straight to hell. Their lives are being cut short. 452 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:14,240 And you guys are 453 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:20,800 when y'all sleep at night, just think your glory oliveette 454 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:28,320 is causing suffering for a lot of of your community and we're 455 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:32,160 just asking you to really take this to heart and understand what we're dealing 456 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,160 with. Thank you. 457 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,359 » Thank you very much for coming. Appreciate it. 458 00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:44,640 All right. Anyone else in the audience wish to speak? 459 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,800 Is there anyone online? Please raise your hand. 460 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:56,960 All right. Thank you for everyone for your comments. Sincerely appreciate it. 461 00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:03,040 All right. We are going to move on now to item nine. Bill 3066. Could we please 462 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:08,800 have the title be read? Bill 3066, an ordinance authorizing a special permit 463 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:13,839 usage for O3BP Associates LLC, owners of the property grounds, addressed as 9600 464 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:18,160 and 9606 Olive Boulevard, to permit Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an 465 00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:22,079 outdoor display and storage area on the east parking lot portion associated with 466 00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:28,119 their tenant space addressed as 9612 Olive Boulevard. Second reading. 467 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,119 » Thank you. 468 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,240 Good evening, mayor, members of the council. My name is Carlos Trejo. I'm 469 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:39,040 the director of planning and community development, and I'm requesting a second 470 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:42,560 reading call for action for uh this bill. We had our public hearing on 471 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,800 August 11th. Be glad to answer any questions, and we do have a 472 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:48,000 representative in attendance if necessary. 473 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:52,640 » The only question I had is I think there was a an ask to look at and I think 474 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:55,599 council man had asked about it like in terms of the location, could it be 475 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:59,680 wedged into the corner in the back or anything like that? Was that feasible? 476 00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:03,680 Um, in terms of the drawing, if I'm remembering correctly, 477 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,800 » that was related if like parking was an issue. 478 00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:09,200 » Yeah. >> If that and and that may be something 479 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,960 that needs to be looked at if it becomes an issue or not. 480 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,640 » That's fine. >> Um, and but I I think that's what we 481 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,640 were talking about. >> That is correct. Okay. 482 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:21,040 » That's my understanding. >> Yeah. And I guess my question is a 483 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:26,400 procedural question related um just with us being a fairly new council. Should 484 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:35,359 there be an issue that becomes apparent with parking um or traffic movement with 485 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:40,720 the location safety um what what is the process for if if we approve the special 486 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:46,079 permit as it is tonight but realize that it is not functioning in in the way that 487 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:49,920 we intended it to. >> We'll engage with the uh first engage 488 00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:54,800 with the applicant or the petitioner that operates a special use permit. see 489 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:58,160 what we can try to mitigate what is out there, get a better understanding, uh 490 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:03,119 then ultimately report back to the council. The council does have the right 491 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:08,680 to revoke a permit uh if it finds that there is some val validation to the 492 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,680 concerns that are expressed 493 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,640 » question. How do we define parking issues? Like what do we consider that to 494 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,200 be? >> That's a very good question. I mean that 495 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:21,280 that site I would assume uh that there will be some type of reported incident 496 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:25,440 on Olive or so. But if somebody just can't find a parking space on a specific 497 00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:28,880 date uh you know they can bring that information we can try to log it and 498 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:33,680 record it. But you know it would have to be something that that's known uh in 499 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:37,440 there and then the the process that we had today of the people speaking before 500 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,920 the council noting concerns or issues gets it on the record. I imagine that 501 00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:43,119 makes >> well and I imagine if the city got 502 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:46,800 notified we that could be brought forward to us but I think about 503 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,920 hypothetically a certain parking lot you know south of us at the end of 170 I 504 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,960 hear people complain about you know all the time it's like you if we hear about 505 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:57,520 citizens something we can bring up too hopefully it's not an issue and 506 00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:01,680 » ultimately that it is I mean we will report back to the council the council 507 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:06,400 has you know if there's a consensus that it is an issue I would assume the 508 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,720 council holds the authority to revoke the permit or push 509 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,880 » modify solution. 510 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:17,839 » And we talked about Dobs only using the first row of parking, right? 511 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,880 » That is a private agreement, I believe, that they have with the property owner 512 00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:23,119 that they're supposed to be using only that. 513 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:27,599 » Okay. That's not a city enforcable. >> It wasn't anything that we we put in 514 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:31,680 into our our contingencies or so because that's more again that's open parking 515 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:35,280 for this. >> Okay. 516 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:39,680 » Is the parking lot itself owned by one parcel or another? It's the best the 517 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:47,040 best of my understanding it's all owned by uh or the O3BP Associates which 518 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:51,760 operates as Biano Properties. They have the the ownership of all the grounds and 519 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:55,680 then dos leases from them in there. I know there are like three different 520 00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:00,240 parcels identified by county but it's one large site. 521 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:04,640 » Okay. >> All right. 522 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:07,760 » And then this is uh fairly random and I do apologize. I did not send this 523 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:13,920 question to you ahead of time. Has there been any consideration with the little 524 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:18,079 driveway, not driveway, but uh right ofway area in the front of that 525 00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:22,560 building where you have a curb cut on one side, a curve cut on the other side. 526 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:30,480 Has there been any consideration to closing that driveway? This obviously is 527 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:34,720 bigger than this particular special use permit, but through 528 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:39,839 » it's it's one of those it's a long-term discussion. We put together the council 529 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:46,160 had authorized the uh us to do the olivet uh boulevard uh conceptual master 530 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:49,680 plan and it identified uh you know areas and that that's one of the sides. 531 00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:54,400 Unfortunately with the curvature of the road is one problem. The intersections 532 00:43:52,880 --> 00:44:00,000 of the opposite streets on the north side is another problem. and then none 533 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:03,920 of the aprons align. Um, easy solution is to place a median. That resolve all 534 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:08,480 the problems, but I'm sure you'll hear a lot about that uh in there. Uh, but over 535 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:12,720 time working with those property owners, we made them familiar with with the 536 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:17,599 concept. Uh, ultimately, you know, and we've had discussions about, you know, 537 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:22,319 kind of nudging them to think think ahead of reassessing the whole parking 538 00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:27,440 layout on the the shopping center. It's a it's tough. It's something I got, you 539 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:31,520 know, we're, you know, 1963 that was a determination of how that layout was was 540 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:35,440 put in place and whether they looked at the the external factors and what was 541 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:41,680 across the street. I can't tell you that. But, uh, it it, you know, I guess 542 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:46,960 we've made them aware. They know that there are issues. They're looking at 543 00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:51,200 some formal way that maybe uh over time that we can kind of like 544 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:55,680 reshift or consolidate that but it get becomes expensive and that becomes the 545 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:59,119 key question. Is it all on their dime or is it something that we collaborate with 546 00:44:57,119 --> 00:45:04,720 them and partner with uh in that process? If you go back to the catalyst 547 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:09,520 tragedy uh another uh you know uh report that the council funded uh and there why 548 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:15,040 it didn't go the full extent uh to old bonum road you know it talked about 549 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:18,880 creating some type of uh traffic uh uh uh improvement district or or 550 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:24,960 transportation improvement district to look at means of getting that you know 551 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:30,240 re well it needs to be reassessed in terms of where are the best points of 552 00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:33,920 entry uh in there and and internal circulations are going to be also need 553 00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:38,160 to be looked at and of course the streetscape enhancements. So I hope that 554 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:44,560 kind of addresses it. I mean it is as long as I my response to you 555 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:48,560 » probably another night for >> but I think it can be done within within 556 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:53,440 you know you know the the plan's horizon. 557 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:58,560 » All right, any other questions? >> I'll entertain a motion. I'll make a 558 00:45:55,359 --> 00:46:05,760 motion to approve bill 3066, an ordinance authorizing a special permit 559 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:11,760 use for the O3 BP Associates LLC, owners of the property grounds addressed at 560 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:16,079 9600 and 9606 Alla Boulevard to permit Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an 561 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:22,079 outdoor display and storage area on the east parking lot portion associated with 562 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:25,040 their tenant space addressed as 9612 Olive Boulevard. 563 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:29,119 » Second. All right. Motion made by Council Member Jagos, second by Council 564 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,200 Member Clark. Can we please pull to council? 565 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,880 » Council member Juel. >> Yes. 566 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,319 » Council member Solomonov. >> Yes. 567 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,319 » Council member Clark. >> Yes. 568 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,520 » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman. >> Yes. 569 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,240 » Mayor Lewis. >> Yes. 570 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:45,040 » The motion is passed. Bill 3066 becomes ordinance 2836. 571 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:49,839 » Thank you. We'll move on to I think it's the Carlos show tonight, right? Move on 572 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:53,920 to item 10. Bill 3067. Will you please have the title be read? Bill 3067, an 573 00:46:52,240 --> 00:47:00,480 ordinance authorizing a special permit usage for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the 574 00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:04,480 property grounds, addressed as 10401 Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced 575 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:09,520 driver assistance systems to operate an indoor automotive repair facility within 576 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:13,680 the tenants space addressed as 10401 Bower Boulevard, Sweet B. Second 577 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:18,079 reading. >> Mayor, again, this was uh read at at our 578 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:21,359 previous meeting on August 11th along with a public hearing. be glad to answer 579 00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:24,560 any specific questions. We do have a representative, Mr. Corbin, and I 580 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:28,960 believe one of the operators uh in attendance. 581 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,839 » I didn't have any questions. I think we covered it last time as far as I'm 582 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,839 concerned. Does anyone have any questions? 583 00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:39,440 Not to discredit. I think the work was great last time, so we got our answer. 584 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:45,599 So, it's a very interesting new property to have. No. All right. Then, if anyone 585 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:50,480 doesn't have any questions, um I'll entertain a motion. I'd like to make a 586 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:55,280 motion to approve bill 3067, an ordinance authorizing a special permit 587 00:47:52,240 --> 00:48:00,000 use for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the property grounds addressed at 10401 588 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:04,800 Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced driver assistance systems to operate an 589 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:11,520 indoor automotive repair facility within the tennis space addressed at 1041 Bower 590 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:14,079 Boulevard, Sweet B. >> Second. 591 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,520 » All right. U motion's been made and a second. Can we please pull the council? 592 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,119 Council member Dragal, >> yes. 593 00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:20,480 » Council member Solammanov, >> yes. 594 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,480 » Council member Clark, >> yes. 595 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,520 » Chairman Proemp, Shan Halman, >> yes. 596 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,240 » Mayor Lewis, >> yes. 597 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:30,640 » Motion is passed. Bill 3067 becomes ordinance 2837. 598 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:34,640 » All right, moving on to item 11, please. Bill 3068. Can we please 599 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:39,839 » have the title read? >> Bill 3068, an ordinance reaffirming and 600 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:45,119 adopting chapter 115, article 3, section 115.080 080 to 115.120 601 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,280 conflict of interest for the city of Alvette, Missouri municipal code and 602 00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:52,640 establishing a procedure to disclose potential conflicts of interest and 603 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:57,760 substantial interests for certain municipal officials. Second reading 604 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,839 » so we covered this last time procedural that we need to do this. 605 00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:03,599 » That's correct. >> All right. I did not have any questions. 606 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,800 Did anyone on the council? >> I had none. 607 00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:11,040 » All right. Then I will entertain a motion. Make a motion to approve bill 608 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:18,240 3068, an ordinance reaffirming and adopting 609 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:21,559 chapter 115, article 3, section 115.080 through 115.120, 610 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:27,680 conflict of interest of the city of Alvette, Missouri municipal code, and 611 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:31,359 establishing a procedure to disclose potential conflicts of interest and 612 00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:35,040 substantial interests for certain municipal officials. 613 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,119 » All right, we hear a second. >> Second. 614 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,599 » All right. Can we please pull the council? 615 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,200 » Council member Duel. >> Yes. 616 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,480 » Council member Solomonov, >> yes. 617 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,559 » Council member Clark, >> yes. 618 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,839 » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman. >> Yes. 619 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,559 » Mayor Lewis, >> yes. 620 00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:54,319 » Motion is passed. Bill 3068 becomes ordinance 2838. 621 00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:57,280 » Right. We'll move on to item 12. Bill 3069. Can we please have the title be 622 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,200 read? >> Bill 3069, an ordinance granting an 623 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:05,359 easement to Spire for the installation of an underground gas man at 9201 Olive. 624 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:10,319 Second reading. Good evening, mayor and council members. 625 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:15,599 Um, great news today. This buyer was on site to finally begin relocating that 626 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:19,760 2-in high-pressure man. Um, any questions about our discussion from a 627 00:50:17,359 --> 00:50:24,079 couple weeks ago or thoughts since then about the wonderful world underneath our 628 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,960 pavement [laughter] >> when you put it that way. 629 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:31,119 » Okay. >> Got a lot of questions. Yeah, 630 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,960 » I do not. I mean, nothing new to add from the 631 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:38,000 » Okay, so very good. >> Yeah. Nothing yet. 632 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:41,680 » Anyone? All right, then. I'll entertain a motion, 633 00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:46,160 I guess. Do we have a motion on this directly or We do have a motion, right? 634 00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:48,960 » Yeah. >> So, do do we need just reward it to 635 00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:55,119 approve this? >> Yeah. Um, you should just word it as a 636 00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:59,760 motion to approve bill number 3069, etc. I would like to make a motion 637 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:03,760 » for bill 3069, an ordinance, an ordinance granting an easement to spire 638 00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:05,680 for the installation of an underground gas m. 639 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:10,079 » I second that. >> All right. Motion made and seconded. Can 640 00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:11,520 we please pull the council? >> Council member Duel. 641 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,119 » Yes. >> Council member Solomonov. 642 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,640 » Yes. >> Council member Clark. 643 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,480 » Yes. >> Chairman Prom Pashan Halman. 644 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,920 » Yes. >> Mayor Lewis. 645 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,599 » Yes. >> Motion is passed. Bill 3069 becomes 646 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:25,040 ordinance 2839. >> Thank you very much. 647 00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:29,200 » Thank you. Good luck. All right, move on to item 13. Bill 648 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:32,359 3070. If we could please have the title be read. 649 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:40,640 Bill 3070, an ordinance authorizing a special permit use for AC Richardson 650 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:45,440 LLC, owners of the property grounds, addressed as 1215 Dealman Industrial 651 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:50,160 Court, to permit SSM Health Health Cardinal Glennon Pediatric Therapy, to 652 00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:54,720 operate a 4566qt medical clinic within the tenant space 653 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:57,200 addressed as 9375 DM Industrial Drive. First reading and public hearing. 654 00:51:56,079 --> 00:52:01,440 » All right. As part of this public hearing, I'm going to go ahead and open 655 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,880 up the public hearing for this bill. And good evening, Max. 656 00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:06,160 » Yeah, welcome back. >> Thank you. Uh my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm 657 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:10,559 the director of planning and community development for the city of Alvette. And 658 00:52:07,839 --> 00:52:14,960 tonight I'm here to present bill 3070, which is a special permit use request 659 00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:19,119 for uh medical offices and clinics at 9375 Dilman Industrial Drive. The next 660 00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:23,359 slide will kind of show the location. It's at the corner of Dilman Industrial 661 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:28,400 Drive and Dilman Industrial Court, which is on the lower left hand corner of of 662 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:32,800 the parcel. It's a corner parcel uh in there. It's about 3 and 12 acres. The 663 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:37,119 building itself which you see the Lshape and the white roof there is roughly 664 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:40,480 31,596 ft. It's a multi-tenant office 665 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:46,160 warehouse. You might be familiar with the uh the the artery is located in 666 00:52:43,359 --> 00:52:49,760 there along with uh the USGS uh is located in that facility. Uh the 667 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:53,520 proposed uses of medical office and clinics and since this is light 668 00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:58,079 industrial uh medical offices and clinics are identified in the permitted 669 00:52:55,839 --> 00:53:02,880 uses but only as a special permit and that is why SSM health cardinal linen is 670 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:08,319 here before you. It's zone L light industrial district and it is authorized 671 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:12,800 uh as a uh special permit use in the LI district. Uh the next slide 672 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:17,760 uh kind of talks about the special permit procedure where we try to uh 673 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,119 facilitate and then further our vision and goals with the comprehensive plan 674 00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:25,520 which we hope is reflective of our ordinances in the CO district but allows 675 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:30,400 us to look at the potential impact the the district itself the comp plan sites 676 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:36,160 uh sustainability the surrounding impacts and then the council rights to 677 00:53:33,359 --> 00:53:41,520 buffer uh required from additional improvements and imposed some open space 678 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:45,280 requirements. ments and to uh consider uh some limitations like in hours and 679 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:49,040 and things of that nature. It goes to our planning and community design 680 00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:52,800 commission for review and a recommendation and then a council holds 681 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:57,359 the public hearing and then considers actions via an ordinance. On the next 682 00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,160 slide, just a couple of things regarding special permit uses. There are some 683 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:03,839 general conditions that are outlined with our ordinance. Those are that is it 684 00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:08,319 listed in the district? Does it further the comprehensive plan? Uh is it the 685 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:11,680 location the parcel suitable for the environment surroundings? Is it 686 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:15,599 complementaryary to the surroundings in the neighborhood and the improvements? 687 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:18,720 Uh did they demonstrate mitigation to any potential spillover effects? And 688 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:23,280 then of course it gives the city the authority to grant buffering designate 689 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:27,920 areas for uh open space limit set limitations on operations implementation 690 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:32,800 schedules meaning like over time they need to do this and consider adequacy of 691 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:36,079 public services. The next slide we'll get into the nuts and bolts. This is a 692 00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:40,319 street view of the building facility. They'll be taking that front corner that 693 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:44,480 you see there. It's approximately I I believe it's a little over 4,500 square 694 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:50,000 f feet. We'll get to that specifically uh in a second. Uh Dilman Industrial 695 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:53,440 Drive is on the right hand side. Dilman Industrial Court is on the left hand 696 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:57,359 side. Dilman Industrial Court is just a short street uh that leads directly to a 697 00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:02,000 building that's in the background there. The next slide, 698 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:05,760 this is the the uh just the tenant improvement plans that they're proposing 699 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:11,599 uh that kind of exist in the existing site ground. It is a 4500 ft² building I 700 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:17,200 believe. Um they are when you look at it in comparison to the overall building 701 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:21,520 which is about 3200 feet, 3200 32,000 ft². Uh they're a little bit of around 702 00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:24,480 an eighth of the whole building uh in there. And you can see the corner area 703 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:32,240 that they'll be taking up their space. It's kind of proportion to the the size 704 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:35,760 on on the uh on the plan. The next slide will identify what are they doing. It's 705 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:40,800 a 4,566 square foot outpatient physical therapy 706 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:44,880 clinic, pediatric therapy clinic. Uh the clinic provides multiddisciplinary 707 00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:48,720 therapy for physical therapy, occupational therapy, and speech therapy 708 00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:53,839 at their site. Uh they currently operate in Creve Corore and they're relocating 709 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:58,000 to etc which is great. Uh the next slide uh kind of goes over the commission did 710 00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:01,680 review it and they motioned to recommend to the council that the uh council 711 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:04,880 consider and approve authorization of the special permit. They use of course 712 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:09,280 the comprehensive plan, our community goals in their review. Uh we look at the 713 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:13,280 principles for economic development and our comprehensive update goals which is 714 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:17,200 environmental sustainability investment, crime prevention, native plantings and 715 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:21,359 strategic redevelopment. And you can see the check boxes as we go through in 716 00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:25,040 there to complete those boxes. Of course, they are asking uh for some 717 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:28,880 additional landscaping along the Dealman Industrial Drive uh component, which is 718 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:33,119 the west side uh when you enter from the stop sign area uh to replace exterior 719 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,640 wallpack lights with those compatible with chapter 428, meaning that they're 720 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:40,640 cut off facing down uh and there. And then to limit the hours of operation 721 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:44,240 from 7:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. That's done in collaboration with the petitioner. 722 00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:49,839 And the concern was because it's a pediatric facility just to make sure 723 00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:53,119 that uh they're not interrupting or um throughout the evening or when we have 724 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:56,640 industrial traffic. On the next slide, mayor, if I can enter 725 00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:00,240 a couple of items just for the record. Uh, our 2024 comprehensive plan update, 726 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:04,400 including the 5-year economic development plan, the Alvette municipal 727 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:07,599 code and zoning map, uh, the staff presentation and memorandum that was 728 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:12,240 presented to the planning and community design commission dated July 23rd, 2026, 729 00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:16,160 including the petition and supporting plans and documents. Our public hearing 730 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:21,040 notice, this is a public hearing. We were required to post this 15 days prior 731 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:26,559 uh to tonight and that was posted in the the county in St. Louis County on August 732 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:31,200 10th, 2026. And you have a list of the properties that were notified. Uh we did 733 00:57:28,799 --> 00:57:36,079 300 ft which is above and beyond the 185 called by code. Uh and then this 734 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:39,280 presentation before the city council. So mayor, I'd be glad to answer any 735 00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:41,599 specific questions and then we do have representatives here I'd like to 736 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:46,240 introduce. >> What's what was their current 737 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:50,640 previously? what was who occupied? Uh it was an engineering firm I believe was 738 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:54,079 the last uh firm that was there >> and it they're going to be if you don't 739 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,880 mind going back to the uh overlay of the office they're going to be doing 740 00:57:55,280 --> 00:58:03,839 outpatient um I guess so patients come in and are 741 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:06,559 seen there or is the expectation but because these are these cubes I guess 742 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,559 I'm just wondering where where that occurs 743 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,119 » kind of like shows the internal layout I think there's going to be some changes 744 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:15,359 and modifications I think that's what it looks like right now uh in there so they 745 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:20,240 haven't applied but but yes they do one-on-one therapies with uh individual 746 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:23,760 clients, pediatrics, of course. Uh in there, probably a question that can 747 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,839 better address than I could on the description. 748 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,720 » Um before we bring them up, other questions people have or 749 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:32,720 » I had the same question. >> Yeah, I don't have it. 750 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:37,520 » I had a question on the hours. So, pediatric means all the way through 18, 751 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:40,079 right? So, is the city limiting the hours or is that something that SSM is 752 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,559 choosing? >> We talked with SSM about what hours and 753 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:48,559 in there and that was within that range. which I think they they close at 5:30. 754 00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:51,520 Something we can check with them again. >> Okay. Okay. 755 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:57,200 » And then I was just curious, I don't see a landscape plan here yet, but um want 756 00:58:54,880 --> 00:59:02,240 to be clear about the area that this business would be working, 757 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:07,359 » like what part of the parcel they would be working on to improve the landscaping 758 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:13,599 and hopefully get some trees out there and native plants, something other than 759 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:20,640 just the turf. Um, and then also curious if there's going to be any signage on 760 00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:24,319 that corner there or that little kind of >> Mhm. 761 00:59:21,359 --> 00:59:27,119 » park that pokes out on the corner. >> Um, if there's any kind of signage that 762 00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:32,640 they're >> We can go one slide back. Uh, Miss Yak, 763 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:35,520 uh, on the right hand side, you'll see Deman Industrial Drive. That's where 764 00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:39,920 we're asking for some additional landscaping to be placed in there with 765 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:44,079 50% of that being native. The one thing along this corner both going north 766 00:59:42,236 --> 00:59:50,799 [snorts] you know where I'm when you're looking at that right road you are going 767 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:55,520 north to south uh on the left you're going east to west uh on both portions 768 00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:59,839 of the road and you can see some of the the the fiber indication there's fiber 769 00:59:57,839 --> 01:00:04,319 and underground utilities all running through uh through there where I have 770 01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:08,400 the most excess of rightway believe it or not is going to be on the western 771 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:12,319 side this used to be an easement and that's where I believe maybe that's why 772 01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:16,720 there was no sidewalk or landscaping uh in place. When the city took over the 773 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:19,680 roads, we took over just a significant portion. A lot of times the parking 774 01:00:18,319 --> 01:00:23,920 would have been further back, we would have more area for landscaping and and 775 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:28,000 things of that nature. So, we're looking here on the right hand side as you can 776 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:33,359 go uh north to south that they do some uh some additional landscaping uh in 777 01:00:30,799 --> 01:00:36,559 their trees to be careful. probably preference would be more ornamental, but 778 01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:40,079 nothing that's going to be deeprooted because they're going to there's 779 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:44,400 continue a matter of fact uh there was markings uh this morning again that 780 01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:49,440 somebody's running some type of fiber optics or things uh of that nature. So, 781 01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:54,880 it continuously gets torn out, but we'd like to get them more towards uh on the 782 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:58,720 western or the eastern part of that hump as you see in the the grading uh in 783 01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:02,640 there to kind of hide some of the parking 784 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:06,640 in there. We didn't look at the north as they're kind of more facing towards 785 01:01:04,319 --> 01:01:11,520 Olive uh in there. But again, I know I have a lot of uh 786 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:15,920 utility stuff that runs uh underneath and the sidewalk kind of extends more 787 01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:19,280 along that area uh in there, but it could be discussion we can have with the 788 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:22,559 property owner. In terms of signage, no signage has been proposed. 789 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:27,040 Traditionally, the signage has been uh on the wall in there. I anticipate that 790 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:33,119 they will continue to do so. I know ImageNet, which is also located on that 791 01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:36,960 building at the far uh left end uh which would be the eastern end of the building 792 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:42,240 does have a monument sign at that back corner. So if they do another one, they 793 01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:46,640 have to place it uh towards the other apron uh in there. So I don't anticipate 794 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:52,480 anything towards the front. >> Okay. And my questions are twofold. One, 795 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:58,319 obviously to increase our environmental sustainability and to have plantings 796 01:01:54,799 --> 01:02:02,640 along that um area as much as possible that not only are good for the 797 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:09,680 environment but can also provide shade um and reduce the heat on that um 798 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:14,160 asphalt parking lot. Um, and then the other piece with Oh, and safety as well 799 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,119 because you're going to have kids in that parking lot and obviously it's 800 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:20,319 worst case scenario thinking that somebody's jump going to jump the curb 801 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:24,480 and go over, you know, that's obviously worst case scenario, but any buffer 802 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:29,599 » uh that we can put in there is a good one. Um, and the same concern with 803 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:33,040 safety for signage. Um just so that when we've got parents who are looking for 804 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:38,400 the facility that it's clear and we don't have kind of that driving around 805 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:44,240 trying to find it because it is you know somewhat tucked down um 806 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:49,520 back behind there just so that it's it's clearly clearly seen and visible um for 807 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:52,000 your visitors for your patients and their families. 808 01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:57,040 » It's something we can look at and discuss with it. And again, I just want 809 01:02:53,440 --> 01:03:01,040 to be clear in terms of the the two on the first comp component of that, the 810 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:05,200 sustainability aspect as we're looking at some of the the plantings and the 811 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:09,520 native species, the concern would be on the trees being too too big in there 812 01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:14,240 because of the >> uh because of the utilities that run on 813 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:17,680 that north side. Now, right here where the bench is set, there is more depth 814 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,640 and I think it's the parking stall length and we can talk with them if 815 01:03:19,359 --> 01:03:25,440 that's an area that they could do more of the shade aspect of it as opposed to 816 01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:29,920 the decorative part component of it. >> Yeah. And even if it was native bushes 817 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:32,960 or something that it would help and put that barrier 818 01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:37,039 » is the you know the white and orange pole that you can see in the front of 819 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:40,880 the picture but then also on that right side there is that the marking for the 820 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:44,079 fiber optic cable >> one of the companies 821 01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:47,680 » I would assume it doesn't represent all of the companies and then you can see 822 01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:52,000 the little square in there represents somebody's vault 823 01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:57,920 » to get in in that space. So is the idea being though that the general location 824 01:03:54,000 --> 01:04:02,160 of those lines is approximately on the right side approximately the same as 825 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:04,400 what we can see in the in the foreground of the image 826 01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:06,240 » at least for the ones that are marked. Yes. 827 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:11,200 » Okay. >> Yeah. And unfortunately they're usually 828 01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:15,440 about 2 feet below below grade which is not much when you kind of think about 829 01:04:12,799 --> 01:04:19,520 it. Okay. 830 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:23,000 » Why don't we bring the petitioner? you ask questions. 831 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,559 » How are you? >> Good. Hello. 832 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:36,880 » My name is Lara Masters. I'm a regional director for um SSM Health Cardinal 833 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:41,839 Glenn and Pediatric Therapy. Thank you for letting us be here today. 834 01:04:39,839 --> 01:04:45,440 » Happy to answer any questions. >> And I'm Ann Hug. I'm the vice president 835 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:49,280 of operations for the company. >> Um yeah, I think the question we had is 836 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:52,720 just the layout. it patients will be seen in there and 837 01:04:50,799 --> 01:04:56,799 » is it is it just kind of open like your counseling so it is cubes or is it 838 01:04:54,319 --> 01:04:58,799 actually like private facility or how what what kind of things you know are 839 01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:04,559 happening usually >> there'll be an open space like a gym for 840 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:09,839 more like physical therapy but we we'll probably have I mean I would say seven 841 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:14,160 or eight individual treatment rooms that are more where speech therapists would 842 01:05:11,839 --> 01:05:15,680 work with individual patient >> so this is not necessarily what the 843 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:20,000 layout >> this is this is what it looks like now 844 01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:24,079 we to do something different with it. Um, so where there'd be, you know, 845 01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:27,839 individual treatment rooms, again, they're not big, but they're 846 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:30,079 » Yeah, and there Yep. 847 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:32,160 » The treatment rooms will be around the perimeter and the gym space would be in 848 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,280 the middle. >> Okay. For actual PT itself and things 849 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,319 like that. >> Yep. 850 01:05:35,839 --> 01:05:41,520 » Okay. >> Will it be possible to have uh the 851 01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:45,280 drawing of how how you envision this? it. I think it's just very helpful for 852 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:50,079 us to actually have the drawing in front of us as opposed to each of our brains 853 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:53,280 kind of thinking what it might look like. 854 01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:58,079 » I have I have we have a clinic that's very similar in size in Ronnie's Plaza 855 01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:05,039 and I have that drawing that I can share with you that we will use that that kind 856 01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:07,920 of design for this space. So I can I would be would love to share that with 857 01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:11,760 you. bring that for the second reading or for Carla M the Trey House has 858 01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:16,799 probably forward it to us >> and this is eventually going to go to 859 01:06:13,359 --> 01:06:22,559 planning and zoning once if this is approved and then they'll have the full 860 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:25,039 sets of drawings and landscape plans and things like that. Is that correct? 861 01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:28,000 » No. >> No. 862 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:31,839 » Oh yeah. I want to see it now. >> No, it would be more regarding the use 863 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:36,079 and the the operations of the use. The the improvements would be internal uh in 864 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:40,799 there. So that generally that would go back to the commission for for review. 865 01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:44,240 Uh there was a code and the the number of exits and the use is going to dictate 866 01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:47,200 what how that space >> how people geointer currently is not 867 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,839 necessarily our >> in terms of landscaping. Yes, the 868 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:53,839 commissioner was comfortable with it administratively you know that as long 869 01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:57,520 as they submit some type of landscaping uh in there and then set the condition 870 01:06:56,079 --> 01:06:59,520 of the 50% native. >> Yes. 871 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:02,319 » Uh in there gives us the guidance of what they're looking for. Okay, I 872 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,839 understand. >> And that just be helpful if you send an 873 01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:09,039 example just so we can, you know, visualize it. Appreciate it. 874 01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:11,680 » Like before the second, you' like >> forward it to Mr. Trey, he can forward 875 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:15,520 it to us and then we'll have it before the second and just helps us visual. 876 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:18,640 Again, it's your internal not ours. But, uh, just that's where I was struggling. 877 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,240 I'm like, I don't understand. >> What is it? You know, 878 01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:23,599 » hey, I'm like, it's your your your business, 879 01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:27,599 » you know. >> Yeah. Thank you. But I do think having 880 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:33,520 that information, you know, I know you you have presented this to the PCDC a 881 01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:37,520 few months ago. Um, and so like the the understanding that for a landscaping 882 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:41,599 plan has been kind of out there for a little bit. So it would be nice to see 883 01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:47,280 some movement towards getting a clearer sense of what that is as well as what 884 01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:48,559 your layout internally is before the second reading. 885 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:52,079 » Okay. >> So that we're really clear on what what 886 01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:56,960 we're approving. Um, >> Sure. And I'm I'm thrilled to like my 887 01:07:54,960 --> 01:08:00,480 hesitancy is not anything about this business or anything. I'm I think it's a 888 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:05,920 good use. I think it's >> um great uh to have this here and all of 889 01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:08,559 it. And I'd like to have a clear sense of what we're approving before we 890 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:12,720 approve it. >> Sure. 891 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,640 » All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. 892 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:18,880 » Happy to be here. Thank you. >> Did you have 893 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:23,759 » Yeah, I had just one comment. U I'm Drew Clary with Intel. I work with the 894 01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:29,520 landlord on this building. I just had a a quick comment question on the the 895 01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:34,000 conditions of the landscaping. Um, so Carlos mentioned there's some fiber 896 01:08:31,839 --> 01:08:39,920 optic optic cables that run on the inside or just on the outside of the 897 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:43,279 sidewalk. Um, there's there's a very similar one just on the other side. You 898 01:08:41,679 --> 01:08:48,159 can't see it, but it's right there in front of a manhole. Um, would it be 899 01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:51,520 beneficial at all if we did more landscaping right where that park bench 900 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:56,239 is instead of along the the western 901 01:08:54,400 --> 01:09:02,159 barrier? My view is more landscaping anywhere is 902 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:04,319 good. Like so as many native or this council is generally I won't speak for 903 01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:08,799 everyone but it's generally in favor of native plants and beautifying and just 904 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:12,400 adding sustainability. So um there's many many ways to attack that. So I 905 01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:16,159 think um yeah, we have to be sensitive to the cabling and not get in the way of 906 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:18,719 utilities and trees and things like that. So we're not in any way saying, 907 01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:22,640 "Oh, no, just put trees everywhere." It's what are the best use of native 908 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:27,120 plants sustainability that are aesthetically looking that are good 909 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:28,560 maintenance, you know, and see and and I think it's just seeing what would look 910 01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:32,960 like. >> Yeah. So we and just a couple couple 911 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:36,080 thoughts on what we were planning on doing to this building. So it's it's 912 01:09:34,480 --> 01:09:40,319 been under a new owner since about October. Um, the building, I don't know 913 01:09:38,719 --> 01:09:45,759 if you've driven by it frequently, but it looks very tired on the outside. So, 914 01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:50,880 the signage is all mismatched. Festive is is on that corner. Their signs about 915 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:54,239 this big, literally. Um, and so we're trying to make the signage consistent. 916 01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:58,000 We trying to make it prettier, channel cut lettering if available. Um, repaint 917 01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:03,520 the exterior of the building. We were welcoming the light improvements. Um, we 918 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:07,920 were planning on doing that anyway. Uh, and so I was trying to get to an 919 01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:12,080 understanding of is it more beautifification or is it more safety 920 01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:15,760 barrier now that you have a better understanding of their hours of 921 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:19,920 operation or is it a little bit of both? Because I could probably do more 922 01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:23,440 landscaping near the park bench, more in front of 923 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:27,920 the building. I guess what I'm getting at is I want to create the barrier. I 924 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:30,400 want it to be pretty. I don't I I would love to not do too much because we're 925 01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:33,520 going to make the building look a lot nicer and I would hate for it to be 926 01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:37,600 obuscated >> if we have hedges grow too tall. But 927 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:40,320 I'll you know >> that's nice to have not 928 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:45,600 » at least from my perspective with the landscaping you know it's it's 929 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:48,880 addressing sustainability and aesthetic purposes. Okay. 930 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:53,520 » Um but with the sustainability piece you know trees provide benefits a multitude 931 01:10:51,520 --> 01:11:00,560 of benefits. storm water control, cooling, um biodiversity, 932 01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:04,719 uh and aesthetics. Yeah. Um as well. So, and trees give you the biggest bang for 933 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:07,360 your buck over time. >> Mhm. 934 01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:10,960 » Low low maintenance generally too. >> That is and it it is a triple net 935 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:13,600 building and so increasing the maintenance cost does get passed back to 936 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,000 the tenants and >> Yeah. 937 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:21,280 » So, trying to find that happy medium. >> I Yeah. And I I think again this is not 938 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:24,000 a dictative. It's just a anywhere we can, especially when we're approving new 939 01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,719 things, we're saying let's continue sustainability goals. I'm less concerned 940 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:30,320 about the safety. It's always a nice thing, but at least there is also a 941 01:11:28,719 --> 01:11:34,640 ridge up, which is nice. It's a very large area versus just a curb. 942 01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:38,400 » Um, but yeah, I think we just like to see us continuing to grow and get more 943 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,800 sustainable. So, but to your point, >> you don't want to block the signage 944 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,800 you're going to put up either. It's a balance. 945 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:46,719 » Yeah. Okay. I think we're on the same page. we'll get you something has a 946 01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:48,800 really good sense of I think of >> what we're 947 01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:53,760 » we've had these conversations in multiple forms. So, um I think he's 948 01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:55,360 probably well equipped to advise on that. 949 01:11:54,159 --> 01:11:58,080 » He has been you guys have always been very helpful too. So, 950 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:02,159 » what what color are you going to paint the building? 951 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:05,199 » That's a good question. Um >> and are you going to paint? It looks 952 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:11,760 like there's masonry. >> No, right now our our thought was just 953 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:14,400 the facade. Um but it's it's a it's barely a thought. Are you are you 954 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:17,440 familiar with what they did with the cone elevator building just a little bit 955 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,679 further down? >> No. 956 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:23,440 » It's probably it's right next to Stone Fabricators and PK Construction, but if 957 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:29,199 you look at the before and after of what they did, they painted it white and blue 958 01:12:25,679 --> 01:12:33,520 accents. It looks incredible. So, it's it's something that would be tasteful 959 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:37,920 and nice and and not obnoxious, but if if you go go look at it sometime this 960 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:42,719 week, I mean, it's it's peeling. It's just there's a light that's it just 961 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:46,719 needs to be needs to be redone. So, >> if you can kind of describe what that's 962 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:50,400 going to be, you know, what color, what what what you guys decide before the 963 01:12:48,719 --> 01:12:53,920 next reading, that would be great, too. >> Yeah, we'll try and um put something 964 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:56,560 together like that along with a landscaping plan. 965 01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,520 » I could be wrong. These they're not necessarily tied together, right? 966 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:02,159 Because we're talking you're talking about the entire building versus just 967 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,840 this. So, good point. >> Yeah, it wasn't a requirement on the 968 01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:05,600 PNC. >> I don't want to stop this or makes 969 01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:09,679 sense. >> Let's do both. Yeah, 970 01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:11,600 » I don't I don't want to encumber that or but I just wanted to let you know of our 971 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,400 plans anyway. >> Appreciate it. It's good to know. I 972 01:13:12,719 --> 01:13:16,719 appreciate the unification. So, >> of course. 973 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:20,400 » Cool. All right. >> Thank you. 974 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:26,480 » Thank you. Other public comments? >> No. All right. Anyone online? 975 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:29,600 Anything else from the council? >> No. 976 01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:33,679 » All right. We will go ahead and close the public hearing then and then there 977 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:36,960 will be a second reading of this bill on September 8th. Thank you very much for 978 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:42,159 coming. Appreciate it. >> Thank you. 979 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:46,239 » All right. Moving on to item 14. Bill 3071. Ask I'm going to ask for the title 980 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:50,960 to be read. Bill 3071, an ordinance authorizing a 981 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:55,120 special permit use for New Blueprint Partners LLC, owners of the property 982 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:59,840 grounds addressed as 1220 North Price Road to permit AIM field hockey to 983 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:03,440 operate a 6,614 square foot enclosed recreational use 984 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,960 within the tenants space addressed as 1220 North Price Road, Sweet 4. First 985 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:10,640 reading and public hearing. >> All right, I will go ahead and open the 986 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,640 public hearing as well and another great presentation. 987 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,679 » Good evening, mayor. And just for the record, my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm the 988 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:20,719 director of planning and community development for the city of Alvette. And 989 01:14:17,679 --> 01:14:25,440 tonight here I'm uh to discuss bill 3071 which is a special permit request for an 990 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:30,000 enclosed recreational use at 1220 North Price Road uh suite number four uh in 991 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:35,360 that building. That is the same building where we have Padel and Pickle uh on on 992 01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:42,000 the northern end and underneath Pedell and Pickle is actually uh u 993 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:45,920 beauty uh auto beauty specialists. I'm sorry I can think of the name. And then 994 01:14:43,679 --> 01:14:49,520 right in the middle you have uh uh door.com 995 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:52,800 uh that that's located uh that kind of wraps. And then this is a little corner 996 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:57,120 piece that I'll show you more specifically in a second. So if you go 997 01:14:54,719 --> 01:15:00,719 to the next slide, it is an old uh an older building that was built uh I 998 01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:05,760 believe in the the 1960s. I didn't put the date uh in there, but it's a 6acre 999 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:10,640 lot with 134,000 uh square foot uh was considered of 1000 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:14,719 office manufacturing, warehousing, and distilling uh that took place at one 1001 01:15:12,719 --> 01:15:19,199 time. Now we have uh recreational use with Pedel and Pickle uh storage with 1002 01:15:17,199 --> 01:15:24,640 auto beauty specialists and then some distribution and offices with locked uh 1003 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:30,320 with uh lock.com or door.com uh on the site. the there's 1004 01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:35,840 one more piece uh of the building that is up for lease uh and it's roughly 1005 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:39,760 about 6,700 square ft² and that's where you see the orange door there at the 1006 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:44,159 lower right hand corner uh is where they're looking to take a a piece of 1007 01:15:42,159 --> 01:15:49,600 that. It's very oddly configured because over time as that property was improved 1008 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:53,440 they they did it in phases and pieces uh in there and of course it was the old 1009 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:58,000 Southern Comfort Distillery uh that was operating on that site. property grounds 1010 01:15:55,520 --> 01:16:02,640 are zone LI light industrial district and enclosed recreational uses and 1011 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:06,239 outdoor recreational uses are permitted uses in the LI district but subject to a 1012 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:09,920 special permit meaning they're not industrial but they can be compatible 1013 01:16:08,239 --> 01:16:13,920 with a lot of the industrial uses that we have there and of course I noted we 1014 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:18,400 have Pedel and Pickle on the site uh just to the left of it you had the 1015 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:21,840 bridge uh facility um in there and then we used to have the old town in tennis 1016 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:27,600 just down the block uh not too far from where SSM was looking at the next slide 1017 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:31,360 We have a procedure for special permit requests. It's a recommend review and 1018 01:16:29,440 --> 01:16:35,280 recommendation by the council by the commission. Uh they forward that to the 1019 01:16:33,679 --> 01:16:39,760 council which holds a public hearing and then has a action via an ordinance 1020 01:16:38,159 --> 01:16:43,120 special permit process. We have a procedure that's outlined within our 1021 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:47,840 ordinance that looks about looks at the impact to it to limitations. Uh but 1022 01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:51,760 always, you know, trying to see how we can further our comprehensive plan uh 1023 01:16:49,679 --> 01:16:55,440 goals and updates. And I'm sorry about the lower left hand that should have 1024 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:58,880 been LI district uh in there on that side. The next slide will kind of talk 1025 01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:02,960 about general conditions of a special permit. So what do we do is that we make 1026 01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:06,480 sure it's listed in the district that it first to go a comprehensive plan that 1027 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:10,159 the location is suitable to the environment and surroundings. Sometimes 1028 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:15,679 it could be doing topography some natural features is is the property flat 1029 01:17:12,719 --> 01:17:19,440 is it hilly or or things of nature. Uh are the improvements complimentary to 1030 01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:23,440 the neighboring uses? Did they demonstrate that they're mitigating any 1031 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:27,360 spillover effects that would adversely impact the addition properties? And then 1032 01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:31,440 of course the city has the authority to require whether buffering aesthetic 1033 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:35,199 enhancements, designate areas for open space, set limitations on operations, 1034 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:39,840 implement a schedule and that is you know requiring things to happen over a 1035 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:45,120 certain amount of time and consider adequacy of public services such as fire 1036 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:48,719 uh medical police type of services. The next slide we'll get into the nuts and 1037 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:55,360 bolts. This is a corner of the building. Again, this is 134,000 ft building. It's 1038 01:17:51,840 --> 01:18:00,320 a big building. Um, they're taking this uh kind of uh front view here where the 1039 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:05,520 orange door is, but not the whole thing. It's just the on the left hand side, the 1040 01:18:02,239 --> 01:18:10,719 the first two uh components where you see the vertical uh things right there 1041 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:15,920 and then it kind of L-shapes and goes back. So, you actually enter the 1042 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:20,880 building uh from from that gap between where the cursor is and to the far left 1043 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:24,800 uh in there. There's a little cove that's a little bit further back. Thank 1044 01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:27,920 you, Miss Yaki. Uh in there where the enter entrance is. And I'll show you a 1045 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:33,440 little bit more when we get into the aerial view. The next slide will kind of 1046 01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:36,960 show how that is set up. And again, uh sorry, I'm using white on the white 1047 01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:42,320 background. Uh, but you can see this L-shaped layout kind of laid out onto 1048 01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:47,040 the 134,000 foot building. You can see that cove area in that cove area on the 1049 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:52,480 lefth hand side is the layout. There's a 66 1050 01:18:48,719 --> 01:18:58,480 uh 6,60 ft uh of the building footprint for uh the Ames indoor uh field hockey 1051 01:18:56,239 --> 01:19:04,000 projects facility. Who is your your petitioner? The next slide. 1052 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:09,199 What is being proposed? The operations are it's a 6,600 foot women's indoor 1053 01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:13,520 field hockey practice facility. In this facility, the operations will include 1054 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:17,440 training, one-on-one coaching, office operations, and then video productions 1055 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:21,760 that they use for uh uh for promoting purposes for the uh for the individual 1056 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:27,760 athletes uh for schools and and things of that nature. Uh next slide. Uh as we 1057 01:19:25,679 --> 01:19:31,920 go through the PCDC, they went and they reviewed it. Again they have a process 1058 01:19:29,679 --> 01:19:35,760 to review it in accordance with uh our ordinance in special permit uses and 1059 01:19:33,679 --> 01:19:39,600 then also our comprehensive plan. Uh when you look at economic development 1060 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:42,880 and investment, it also has its own specific goals about environmental 1061 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:47,520 sustainability, investment, crime prevention, uh native plantings and 1062 01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:51,600 strategic redevelopment. So in their review, the commission uh motioned that 1063 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:54,800 the council consider authorizing the special permit through this ordinance. 1064 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:58,000 However, they also laid out the following conditions. One is to limit 1065 01:19:56,239 --> 01:20:01,120 the hours of operations from 7:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. How do we get there? Again, 1066 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,920 that was a discussion with the petitioner of what their operating hours 1067 01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:09,520 would be. Uh, and there uh to replace the exterior wallpack lights with uh 1068 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:14,159 those that are cut off and facing down compatible with chapter 428 to do a tree 1069 01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:18,239 health assessment and replacement plan with 50% of those being native. There 1070 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:22,719 was several trees along the perimeter of the the the site as itself. you know, 1071 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:26,800 different differentiating it from the petitioner here. Uh, and there and some 1072 01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:31,520 of them had been cut down and some of them uh seemed like they they were not 1073 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:37,120 as healthy. And then to replace some of the deteriorated fencing sections uh 1074 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:42,080 that were on the uh south side of the property uh uh in there the next slide, 1075 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:46,239 mayor, if I can just enter a couple of items into the record. Uh, one is our 1076 01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:49,600 2024 comprehensive plan update, including our 5-year economic 1077 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:52,960 development plan, the Olivette municipal code and zoning map, the staff 1078 01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:57,120 presentation and memorandum presented to the planning and community design 1079 01:20:54,400 --> 01:21:00,880 commission dated July 23rd, 2026, including the petition and supporting 1080 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:04,080 plans and documents. The public hearing notice, of course, this is a public 1081 01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:08,480 hearing. We're required to post this in the county and St. Louis County. It was 1082 01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:12,400 published on August 10th, 2026. And then you have a list of the properties that 1083 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:16,400 were identified or notified uh regarding that twice. Uh they get a postcard 1084 01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:20,400 before it goes to the commission and then they also get a public hearing 1085 01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:25,199 notice uh prior to our meeting here at council and then the presentation before 1086 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:29,280 council dated August 25th, 2026. I do have representatives here in attendance, 1087 01:21:27,199 --> 01:21:32,320 but I'd like be glad to answer uh specific questions about the building 1088 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:35,760 and the operations. >> I have questions mostly for the 1089 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:39,679 petitioner. So before we bring them up, anyone have any questions for Mr. Tjo. 1090 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:43,440 » Yeah. So I uh my daughter actually took lessons at Padel and Pickle. So I got to 1091 01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:47,120 see the parking lot when they're when it's gets a little bit busier. 1092 01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:51,840 » It does it just want to make sure that there are enough spots for all the 1093 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:55,440 tenants if this goes through. Especially if you know there's a team or a couple 1094 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:59,040 of teams practicing, everyone drives in their own cars. 1095 01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:02,400 » End up with an extra with an extra 30 cars. [snorts] 1096 01:22:00,239 --> 01:22:07,120 » Would that be enough space? And if not, where would the overflow be? 1097 01:22:04,639 --> 01:22:14,120 » Well, good question. Uh if you we can go back to the aerial. I think it's about 1098 01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:14,120 uh three on on this site. Well, one 1099 01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:23,679 uh on this site. So you can see um there's that center parking uh in in 1100 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:28,080 that area primarily used by by lock uh door.com, excuse me. And their pedal and 1101 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:33,199 pickle uses part of that and then they uh expanded their have the uh the 1102 01:22:30,639 --> 01:22:37,760 parking facility there on the lower left corner uh in there. and you see that 1103 01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:41,120 that aisle in there. Uh they've always wanted to expand in that green space, 1104 01:22:39,199 --> 01:22:44,800 but then that would trigger MSD review and and storm water. So, there's always 1105 01:22:42,719 --> 01:22:48,560 that caveat that we have available there. But then there's some additional 1106 01:22:46,239 --> 01:22:52,400 parking on the far right end of the building uh in there. It's kind of 1107 01:22:50,719 --> 01:22:56,080 separate and independent, but they also operate this. Yes. 1108 01:22:54,080 --> 01:23:00,560 » To the f Okay, >> that that area where the cursor is at. 1109 01:22:58,639 --> 01:23:03,440 » Would would that be another entrance or would people have to walk around? 1110 01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:07,679 » They would have to walk around. They're they're not in the way the in the 1111 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:11,120 original building everything was all within within [snorts] reach. Now that 1112 01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:16,400 things have been separated, yes, the parking is all kind of uh disassociated 1113 01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:20,960 with the with the spaces. >> But it's always a good question. I mean, 1114 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:24,480 I always hear, you know, that's a lot of parking. You know, do do they really 1115 01:23:22,639 --> 01:23:28,400 need all that surface area? And you try to balance that. Do they really have 1116 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:32,639 enough parking uh in there? You know, from a planning perspective, there are 1117 01:23:30,719 --> 01:23:36,719 in our code, there are some some minimums. We go by minimums uh in there 1118 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:40,800 that they have to have a minimum amount based on the type of activity that takes 1119 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:44,719 place. For recreational uses, it's based on square footage. There's a simple 1120 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:50,320 calculation that we use to calculate that. For the office, it's based on on a 1121 01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:54,239 similar weight. Uh but then they're in a match. And then our code allows us to 1122 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:57,920 provide some overlap. So if this use needs this much parking, this use need 1123 01:23:56,239 --> 01:24:01,760 needs this much parking, this use needs this much parking, you can have some 1124 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:05,280 overlap that that some may come in at night, some may come in during the day 1125 01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:11,120 um in there. So it allows for that process in there to help try to balance 1126 01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:16,639 it uh in there. But again, it's, you know, from a professional view, it's 1127 01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:20,000 like I I think if if people are unhappy with 1128 01:24:18,639 --> 01:24:23,040 the parking, they're going to go somewhere else to find a better facility 1129 01:24:21,679 --> 01:24:27,440 that can accommodate them. And it impacts the user in there. We want to 1130 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:32,719 keep these uses viable. We want to keep our residents and and and the region 1131 01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:36,000 coming to our our our location uh in there, but this is a fine balance as 1132 01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:40,560 opposed to having over parking. We had the conversation when uh Murthy Health 1133 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:46,080 Systems was looking at the pharmacy and we were asking can we get rid of parking 1134 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:48,880 spaces uh back there and it's tough >> for this area specifically. I just want 1135 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:52,719 to make sure people are not parking along the road or something like that. 1136 01:24:50,480 --> 01:24:57,360 So, but that sounds plenty sufficient if we have that lot in the back. 1137 01:24:55,840 --> 01:25:00,960 » But a good question. I mean it's it's one of the things we struggle with and 1138 01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:04,560 finding that right mix, right balance. Mhm. 1139 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:08,239 » Um, related to parking, I'm interested in kind of hearing your perspective on 1140 01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:12,560 the traffic flow on this lot. Just recognizing that it has kind of an 1141 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:18,320 unusual setup with the two entrances. Um, you 1142 01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:23,520 know, it's not a cir circle drive, but you know, kind of coming in from both 1143 01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:30,080 sides. And then the extended part that I'm assuming when this was more serving 1144 01:25:26,159 --> 01:25:37,120 an industrial purpose um was set up for truck loading and unloading. Um and I 1145 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:44,000 guess I'm just I'm curious in this parcel recognizing how the uses have 1146 01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:51,360 shifted um pretty significantly. Um, other than Door, perhaps Door still uses 1147 01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:56,639 the larger trucks for uh deliveries and loading and unloading. I'm not sure. I'd 1148 01:25:53,040 --> 01:26:01,760 be curious to know um if this current traffic configuration 1149 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:07,840 is the best um 1150 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:13,280 use of that space um and or the safest use recognizing 1151 01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:16,960 that you know for field hockey you'll have parents driving but you my guess 1152 01:26:15,219 --> 01:26:22,800 [clears throat] is potentially some of the clients will be uh older 1153 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:28,560 kids young adults who are driving themselves and aren't necessarily known 1154 01:26:24,719 --> 01:26:36,320 for being the best drivers. Um, and trying to trying to make that that 1155 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:41,360 particular area work in a way that um it seems a little the setup as it is now 1156 01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:43,520 is a little odd for the uses that are being 1157 01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:49,440 » No, it's a very good question. >> Those buildings 1158 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:55,440 » in there a good question uh just on the timing on on here. So, and and this is 1159 01:26:53,440 --> 01:27:00,480 this is why it's a special permit. I mean, we have seen our industrial parks. 1160 01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:07,040 There's not much industrial going on in those parks uh anymore. Uh we have seen 1161 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:11,600 the the the the road and all that. This used to be all private. So, those dock 1162 01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:16,239 doors all worked uh in there because they were not under our jurisdiction uh 1163 01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:21,199 and in place. Now, we've taken up those spaces in there. And these buildings 1164 01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:27,679 still are industrial buildings trying to be retrofitted for uses that that were 1165 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:31,840 or you know that that were not designed or or built. And that's why we go 1166 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:35,040 through these processes. You know, this is the third time that I've been here 1167 01:27:33,199 --> 01:27:40,159 just for this building. You know, we did that for Paddle and Pickle. We did it 1168 01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:45,760 for uh Auto Beauty to expand underneath uh in there and then now we're doing it 1169 01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:49,600 for the Ames indoor hockey uh in there. You know, I couldn't give you a straight 1170 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:54,560 answer of is this, you know, professionally, is this the ideal 1171 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:58,880 parking configuration? No. No, it's not. This is what what I have to work with 1172 01:27:56,159 --> 01:28:03,199 and what how it's put in place. uh things that would I would would be ideal 1173 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:11,520 for that parking is to make it more uniform and and uh 1174 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:15,199 you know uh polygono or or so but then it triggers things because then you get 1175 01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:18,639 rid of that green space and then MSD gets involved in all that and then the 1176 01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:24,159 cost of trying to retrofit these buildings becomes more difficult um uh 1177 01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:30,000 in there. I think it's something we have to kind of look over time uh in there. 1178 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:34,320 We I'm not aware that that there's been any incidents uh in the spaces, but we 1179 01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:39,280 only have three of the four tenants in in there right now. Uh with uh auto 1180 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:44,400 beauty, that's solely storage and those are moved from just kind of back and 1181 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:48,400 forth uh with them. Pedal and Pickle, you know, I know they have their their 1182 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:51,760 their their operation their times kind of fluctuate over time and it's just 1183 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:56,000 going to be kind of looking at how that mixture works between the two. The only 1184 01:28:53,760 --> 01:29:00,000 constant is Door.com. We know who's there during during the regular hours 1185 01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:02,719 and then when when they leave uh in there, it could be something that we 1186 01:29:01,440 --> 01:29:08,000 could look at, you know, how are the hours of operating working with with 1187 01:29:04,719 --> 01:29:12,800 that over time. uh or you know talk about how do we get more connectivity uh 1188 01:29:10,639 --> 01:29:17,920 with some of the other spots in there depends on when I go out there you know 1189 01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:24,159 it's full and you can see uh to the left on on the on the slide you know all that 1190 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:27,600 parking right there is bridge uh in there and it was like when we were going 1191 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:32,000 through that we didn't anticipate you know that volume um in that place but 1192 01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:36,000 we've been fortunate that the mix of that building has been you know kind of 1193 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:38,719 balances pretty well you don't go there during the bridge time, you're going to 1194 01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:41,920 get pretty good parking. If it's during bridge time, yeah, you're you're you're 1195 01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:45,920 kind of moving around trying to find a space in there, but then they have a 1196 01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:49,440 similar pattern where the parking wraps around the building and then there's a 1197 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:54,480 whole another field on the north side uh of it. So, yeah, I think there's enough 1198 01:29:52,000 --> 01:30:00,480 spots. It certainly does meet our code. Is it configured perfectly? No, it is. 1199 01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:04,480 It it isn't. But I think we have to see how we, you know, how these buildings 1200 01:30:02,239 --> 01:30:09,679 kind of transition and how this parking kind of works over time. 1201 01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:14,560 » What the current hours for paddle and pickle? Do you happen to know? 1202 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:18,840 » Not off hand. Uh I believe they do have an early start like 6:00 a.m. 1203 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:25,199 » And paddle pickles where on here with the curses are 1204 01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:28,239 » Okay. So as you look Yeah, right there. >> Okay. Thank you. 1205 01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:32,239 » And they do actually use a parking lot. That's where that blue truck, blue roof 1206 01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:35,280 » right in that area. >> Yeah. So that ends up being old parking 1207 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:39,520 too. Like >> an old old picture then. 1208 01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:43,679 » It's I don't know that it's marked right now, but people just park there in a row 1209 01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:46,639 and it's pretty organized. >> Oh, okay. 1210 01:30:44,239 --> 01:30:50,560 » I've seen it many times. >> How crowded is it when you're if you've 1211 01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:54,719 been there? >> I think I mean from what I've seen, they 1212 01:30:52,159 --> 01:30:58,000 only take up that wider part of the parking. They don't even end up much on 1213 01:30:56,639 --> 01:30:59,199 the pavement. So, 1214 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,159 » okay. >> So, it sounds like it there should be 1215 01:31:01,440 --> 01:31:05,600 room. >> Yeah. I mean, if we have that other 1216 01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:11,280 parking lot on the far right, I mean, that's overflow if needed. Yeah. It's I 1217 01:31:08,639 --> 01:31:14,000 imagine it's also by hour times things make difference 1218 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:18,159 » because I love this reuse. >> Yeah. It's exciting 1219 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:21,120 » to these types of >> and it draws people. They want to get 1220 01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:24,960 dinner afterwards. They want to do things like that. It's great 1221 01:31:22,239 --> 01:31:28,960 » and it's unique to the community, right? >> It's it's a great 1222 01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:35,000 bring up the petitioner. So I have just random questions. I'm curious more 1223 01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:35,000 curiosity questions. So like 1224 01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,960 » evening >> evening. Thank you guys so much for your 1225 01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:44,320 time with this and consideration. I'm Lauren Kornweight, the founder and 1226 01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:49,440 director of Aimfield Hockey. I've been at this for 20 years and have a vision 1227 01:31:46,719 --> 01:31:52,800 for for the next step. So >> I'm Chris Paul now and I'm a 1228 01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:56,320 representative for Lauren and the real estate. 1229 01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:59,280 » Great. Um I was curious two things. hours only because again I feel like it 1230 01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:02,560 might be different thinking about my son's soccer and the private things like 1231 01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:05,840 they easily do things till 10 o'clock at night and so it's you're comfortable 1232 01:32:04,480 --> 01:32:08,159 with the hours because it is light industrial so we have a little bit of 1233 01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:12,400 give so >> I am comfortable with the hours a lot of 1234 01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:17,840 um the you know during the day is going to be just office use for we just have 1235 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:23,120 four of us in there so it's not like a huge you know for parking or whatever um 1236 01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:27,440 and then I am comfortable with the hours it's going to be a lot of small group 1237 01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:29,840 and private training and not like loads of teams coming in that space. 1238 01:32:29,199 --> 01:32:34,639 » Okay, >> that helps. I'm also I guess I'm 1239 01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:38,400 surprised too like your choice field hockey, but you guys don't ever open it 1240 01:32:36,719 --> 01:32:41,280 up to anything else like football or other, you know, trainings. You just it 1241 01:32:40,159 --> 01:32:44,800 only dedicates to field. >> I mean, this is again we've been doing 1242 01:32:42,719 --> 01:32:47,600 this 20 years and we just focused on field hockey, but 1243 01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:51,520 » it's a win. Okay, >> great. 1244 01:32:48,239 --> 01:32:55,040 » How many uh players are training at any one time? Oh, thank you. 1245 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:58,639 » We'll we'll be looking at doing small group. Well, some will be literally 1246 01:32:56,639 --> 01:33:03,840 private one-on-one, but we'll be looking at doing like 8 to 12 kids um training. 1247 01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:08,080 » Yeah, that's right. >> So, this is kind of a new concept, so 1248 01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:12,480 it's a little bit unproved. Lawrence kind of gone out on a limb here because 1249 01:33:10,719 --> 01:33:16,159 all these indoor practice facility, anyone who uses turf, they're all 1250 01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:19,679 fighting over each other for Veta in the different turf 1251 01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:24,480 » areas. So, Lauren's still going to utilize those spaces. This will be a 1252 01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:27,840 complimentary facility for her where she can do smaller group training 1253 01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:31,360 one-on-one. She does a lot of recruitment videos for college and 1254 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:36,320 things like that. So, it'll have like a video production room. 1255 01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:40,800 » Um, so it's not totally unknown. I think she knows what she's gone through a 1256 01:33:38,159 --> 01:33:46,960 heavy business plan. So, I think it's going to be a great facility. And 1257 01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:50,320 honestly, the um the previous meeting we went to, they were like, "We think 1258 01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:53,840 you're going to outgrow this facility and need to go get a bigger facility." 1259 01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:57,520 So, it's going to it's a new concept in the indoor space. There's no one else 1260 01:33:55,440 --> 01:34:01,840 doing it. We're excited about it. We're happy to be in Alvette. This is a great 1261 01:33:59,199 --> 01:34:05,760 location. The property is well lit and it's a safe neighborhood. At night, the 1262 01:34:04,239 --> 01:34:08,719 all the other businesses are in the afternoons, they'll be winding down on 1263 01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:13,199 their business where she'll be picking up from when kids get out of school 1264 01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:18,000 until the evening hours. So I think it's complimentary and then a lot of the 1265 01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:21,280 parents when they drop their kids off they can go support the other businesses 1266 01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:25,280 in the community or go over to pet pedal and pickle and make reservations and so 1267 01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:28,880 maybe that helps from the parking standoint as well. 1268 01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:35,520 » Could I address just your question earlier also um we serve like 1269 01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:41,199 three-year-olds to 18y olds so 90% of our clients are are parent drivers. Um, 1270 01:34:39,199 --> 01:34:45,280 we do have some, you know, the 16, 17, 18 year olds and I do understand your 1271 01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:49,199 question with that, but it's that's going to be a small percentage. 1272 01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:51,920 » I do imagine you will do quite well because I can imagine a lot of people 1273 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:54,480 that's why I asked about other sports because the recruitment as my son's 1274 01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:58,480 going through that kind of thing right now. It's um a space where you could do 1275 01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:02,639 that privately and get that and have video. I question do you plan maybe you 1276 01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:06,719 don't because the size isn't like food. You're not selling food. We're not No, 1277 01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:09,600 we don't have like a grillin bar or anything like that. think like a veta or 1278 01:35:08,159 --> 01:35:12,880 something like that. Okay. >> You don't want any part of that. 1279 01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:16,480 » I don't want to venture into that. >> I understand. I just wanted to check. 1280 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:19,600 So, >> all right. 1281 01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:25,520 » Yeah. I think it's a very exciting use. I love to see the building repurposed um 1282 01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:32,080 and and especially providing something that's unique um and sounds like a 1283 01:35:28,159 --> 01:35:38,400 really great market to address. Um, and yeah, my my concerns really are more 1284 01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:42,800 about the building and the kind of weird driving situation that exists. I don't 1285 01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:48,400 have any concerns about the business other than the potential that you will 1286 01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:53,440 be more successful and uh outgrow this space too quickly. 1287 01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:58,639 So, we are in a little bit of a So, when we negotiated this deal on the building, 1288 01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:04,080 the there was a new buyer coming in for the building, which is the Bluepoint or 1289 01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:08,960 whatever LLC that's on the agenda for this evening. It is kind of an emergency 1290 01:36:06,639 --> 01:36:13,199 situation. and Lauren got busy in the spring and we burned some time and then 1291 01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:16,400 we realized when we went to permits that we figured pedal and pickle and it 1292 01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:20,719 wasn't talked about with the previous lawn lords on the use that we didn't fit 1293 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:24,639 within the light industrial without a special use permit. So now we're in a 1294 01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:29,040 situation where construction's been delayed. So really what we're trying to 1295 01:36:26,239 --> 01:36:33,760 achieve is to get this thing off center because it's she's a small business and 1296 01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:37,360 she's got time burning on at least right now and we're confident we can get 1297 01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:42,159 through this with you guys and make the compromises needed to make sure everyone 1298 01:36:39,679 --> 01:36:46,400 in the city is happy with the use. But it's kind of like we need I think what 1299 01:36:44,639 --> 01:36:50,159 Carlos suggested is that we need to have it as an emergency so we can get a first 1300 01:36:48,159 --> 01:36:56,159 and second reading. So whatever accommodations 1301 01:36:51,920 --> 01:37:01,679 Yeah. So we we kind of would like to see if we can move this forward this evening 1302 01:36:59,199 --> 01:37:05,600 if you guys would be open to that. >> Don't know from policy how that works in 1303 01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:08,320 terms of because because we have to post agendas 1304 01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:12,000 » start the review of the uh the permit plans with them uh and then that's 1305 01:37:10,639 --> 01:37:15,280 something we can offer >> to move I'm sorry 1306 01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:20,719 » to kind of facilitate and start the the permit review the the building permit 1307 01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:23,920 plans before the council authorizes. So, it's a risk we take, but it's something. 1308 01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:26,960 » Yeah. And I think if it sounds like they're willing to work, so I think that 1309 01:37:25,119 --> 01:37:30,639 makes sense to start early. We can't authorize until the second reading, but 1310 01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:34,080 I think that gets you forward versus waiting to the second reading then to do 1311 01:37:32,159 --> 01:37:37,520 that, right? So, it keeps us on track, if that makes sense. So, 1312 01:37:35,440 --> 01:37:41,360 » what is the policy? Can we do a first and second reading on one day? 1313 01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:45,520 » I don't know how we can do that. >> Technically, you can. Um, it was not 1314 01:37:43,679 --> 01:37:50,560 advertised on the agenda that you were going to vote on it this evening. So, um 1315 01:37:48,239 --> 01:37:55,440 that would have been useful, but uh technically you could you need to vote 1316 01:37:53,679 --> 01:38:00,080 as a council. Someone needs to make a motion to hold the second reading this 1317 01:37:58,239 --> 01:38:10,199 evening and then you need to vote on that motion and then you would be um you 1318 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:10,199 could then vote um on the 1319 01:38:10,239 --> 01:38:15,600 » vote. Correct. 1320 01:38:14,159 --> 01:38:17,920 And I guess though, Carlos, does it speed us up that much? Because the 1321 01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:22,320 plans, how long is it going to take you guys to work through that? 1322 01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:25,840 » Takes about right now we're about 15 days out for review comments. 1323 01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:30,560 » Okay. So, if you start working with them immediately, it's going to be 15 15 days 1324 01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:33,040 anyway. And so, to me, >> it's going to be two weeks before we 1325 01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:36,239 vote on this again, right? >> And so, I I don't think it's going to 1326 01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:39,840 change anything anyway. And I'd rather if we didn't need to um if it was going 1327 01:38:38,159 --> 01:38:42,639 to dash but so I think starting as soon as we can on just review to help them 1328 01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:45,119 out would be great if >> it's something we can do without you 1329 01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:49,440 with or without the >> okay before the only concern is in it 1330 01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:53,760 was my understanding in the past it it sets a precedent and then they're always 1331 01:38:51,679 --> 01:38:58,480 asking us the staff you know about >> yeah I think I think it's understood and 1332 01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:02,639 so we need to be careful on that and not and not uh so recognizing that there's a 1333 01:39:01,199 --> 01:39:06,800 need to burn and we really excited about the reuse of the building so you know 1334 01:39:04,639 --> 01:39:12,239 open to that. But, uh, it's a good call out. Um, signage. Oh, sorry. 1335 01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:16,639 » I would be comfortable if we entertained a second rating tonight. Does how does 1336 01:39:14,239 --> 01:39:22,880 anybody else feel? >> I mean, if it if it's going to 1337 01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:25,679 if it's going to expedite helping them move forward faster, I'm okay with it. 1338 01:39:24,639 --> 01:39:27,600 But if it's not going to make any difference, stick to what we're doing 1339 01:39:27,119 --> 01:39:31,520 now. >> Yeah, that's generally I mean, I I 1340 01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:35,360 wouldn't be totally objecting to it except it does set precedent for us, 1341 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:37,520 too. Um, and it doesn't sound like it's going to accelerate at this point in the 1342 01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:41,760 period. >> And I say leave everything the way it 1343 01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:44,639 is, but it might help Carlos so he doesn't get 1344 01:39:42,719 --> 01:39:46,880 » Well, it's one of these where one way or the other we're establishing a tricky 1345 01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:53,920 precedent. >> Yeah. Um, I I feel more comfortable with 1346 01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:59,280 Carlos working with the petitioner on the building permit side of things than 1347 01:39:57,199 --> 01:40:05,920 making a decision in the middle of a council meeting to adjust our processes. 1348 01:40:02,239 --> 01:40:10,239 Um, that we we were not prepped for ahead of time to do something like that. 1349 01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:17,040 And I think adjusting something like that in in a council meeting at itself, 1350 01:40:12,639 --> 01:40:20,639 I I don't feel comfortable with that. Yeah, I kind of need to I guess Carlos 1351 01:40:18,639 --> 01:40:24,239 the question for you is or Mr. is it any concerns from you moving forward on your 1352 01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:28,639 side sooner than later? >> No, I mean they started off with permit 1353 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:32,560 plans. So I think they're they're they should have the contractor is here uh in 1354 01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:36,159 » I don't want to put you guys in a bind either if that's something that you guys 1355 01:40:34,239 --> 01:40:38,639 can't staff timing or anything like that either. So that would 1356 01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:41,760 » correct but I think we can coordinate and get that that okay you know that 1357 01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:44,000 first round going >> if you guys are good we'll have move 1358 01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:47,600 forward that way. I think it'll end about the same time either way and I I 1359 01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:50,400 would agree with Chairman Bam on that. >> So, realistically, when would the second 1360 01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:53,280 reading be? >> ETH. 1361 01:40:51,119 --> 01:40:57,679 » ETH. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> And signage for the building. I don't 1362 01:40:54,960 --> 01:41:01,760 know if we covered that. I apologize. >> I would say on the signage, Lauren and I 1363 01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:07,400 have talked about it. It would go if you go forward a couple, you can see the 1364 01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:07,400 orange door. 1365 01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:14,639 » Oh, wrong way. We could put a sign there to 1366 01:41:11,679 --> 01:41:19,600 » Yeah, you could put a big arrow. >> So I think in Lauren I it as long as it 1367 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:24,239 hasn't changed. Her plan was to put AIM above that loading door 1368 01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:28,560 um on that orange panel right there. >> But the loading door is not you're not 1369 01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:29,679 using that door as an entrance. >> No. 1370 01:41:29,119 --> 01:41:34,639 » Okay. >> And just to so you guys understand, this 1371 01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:41,040 space only accounts for about 2% of the entire building. And um the the way this 1372 01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:44,080 space lays out, the entry will be on the other side of that orange door, but 1373 01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:47,280 directly on the other side of the space. So that'll be the main entry point. 1374 01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:52,159 You're not going to be entering from the price side. But the way it's laid out 1375 01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:55,679 and the previous owner, they were basically talking about mothballing that 1376 01:41:54,159 --> 01:42:02,239 space because it's laid out so inefficiently for really any other use 1377 01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:05,679 than recreational or special use. So just because it's hard to get into stuff 1378 01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:11,280 on the right side of this drawing which used to be a rail loaded is really tired 1379 01:42:08,480 --> 01:42:15,280 space that you know frankly Lauren's spending a lot of money that she's 1380 01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:19,119 investing into the space herself rather than landlord and the other space that 1381 01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:24,880 Lord loading dock comes up and it makes a 90 degree turn. So I mean this is 1382 01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:28,400 really it sat for a long time where they almost said let's just forget about 1383 01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:30,400 leasing it and move on. So, all reason exciting to reuse it. 1384 01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:35,040 » Yeah. >> Wish you the best of luck. So, 1385 01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:39,040 » we'll move forward then. Um, any other questions from council? 1386 01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:42,639 » Uh, does anyone in the public have questions to ask? 1387 01:42:40,639 --> 01:42:47,440 » I just had one quick one. >> Come on up. 1388 01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:53,679 » So, I did represent the landlord when we signed this lease. Um, 1389 01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:58,880 is there is there not have is there not more of a or less of a pre precedent to 1390 01:42:56,239 --> 01:43:02,239 have a second reading at the council meeting, first reading and second 1391 01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:04,239 reading, and to do the drawings early? >> Do you guys normally have you never done 1392 01:43:03,679 --> 01:43:08,159 the second reading? >> It's not that we've never done it. My my 1393 01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:11,199 concern is that everything we do generally we need to give the notice to 1394 01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:13,199 the public so they expect what what we're voting on, what we're talking 1395 01:43:12,159 --> 01:43:18,639 about, which is why we can't bring up random topics and discuss them and just 1396 01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:21,760 forget at a given time. Um, and so it sets that precedent that we could do 1397 01:43:20,239 --> 01:43:24,400 something and then people get upset that like you did something without letting 1398 01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:26,480 us know. I would have come and spoken. I would have objected. I would have 1399 01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:30,159 brought something up. >> Whereas this, while we usually staff 1400 01:43:28,719 --> 01:43:33,600 would not usually work with you until it's put forward, 1401 01:43:32,159 --> 01:43:37,280 » we recognized this is going to go forward. So staff working with you now, 1402 01:43:35,119 --> 01:43:39,040 I think puts us in the exact same spot at the end of the day. So 1403 01:43:38,480 --> 01:43:41,280 » Gotcha. >> Yeah. 1404 01:43:39,679 --> 01:43:45,040 » Yeah. When we when we signed the lease, we figured um and I actually remembered 1405 01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:49,040 it at the end, but when we did the paddle and pickle deal, I thought we had 1406 01:43:47,119 --> 01:43:53,119 a special use permit athletic for the whole building and it was specific to 1407 01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:54,800 their use. So, >> I want them to get going as soon as 1408 01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:57,920 possible. >> Me, too. Trust me. So, I I think this 1409 01:43:56,400 --> 01:44:00,400 will end up that's why our question of if it's going to be 15 days, if it's 1410 01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:04,480 going to take that long anyway, we'll approve it in 14 days. Hopefully, it's 1411 01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:07,840 done. We're at the same spot. If that was not the case, I'd be much more 1412 01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:10,880 willing to entertain at this point. So, >> well, I appreciate your time. No, thank 1413 01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:14,639 you. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. Anyone online? 1414 01:44:12,719 --> 01:44:19,199 » You know, the only drawback is that I've been frequenting Paris Baguette ever 1415 01:44:17,119 --> 01:44:23,600 since discovering this place. So, >> yeah. Good with the bad, right? You 1416 01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:26,880 know, so >> thank you. 1417 01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:31,440 » Thank you. All right. Anyone online? Questions, comments? All right. I will 1418 01:44:29,119 --> 01:44:34,080 close the public hearing. All right. And then we'll have it the 1419 01:44:32,719 --> 01:44:35,600 second reading on the 8th. Thank you very much. 1420 01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:39,760 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 1421 01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:44,080 » Okay. Move on to item 16. Uh, surface transportation we will be 1422 01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:47,440 blocked. I will have you read it. How about that? 1423 01:44:46,159 --> 01:44:50,960 » Or do I? >> Yes, sir. 1424 01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:55,360 » Did I miss Oh, I passed bill. I apologize. Just kidding. Item 15, Bill 1425 01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:58,960 3072. If we can have the title right, please. 1426 01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:04,080 » Bill 3072, an ordinance to amend section 405.460, 460 condominiums, plats, and 1427 01:45:02,639 --> 01:45:08,320 additional requirements being part of the subdivision code of the city of 1428 01:45:05,440 --> 01:45:12,159 Alvette. Chapter 405, subdivision regulations of title 4, land use of the 1429 01:45:10,239 --> 01:45:15,679 Alvet municipal code to allow for both residential and non-residential 1430 01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:18,320 condominium plats and additional requirements. First reading and public 1431 01:45:17,199 --> 01:45:22,800 hearing. >> All right, we'll open the public hearing 1432 01:45:19,679 --> 01:45:26,080 on bill 3072 and presentation, please. >> Uh, chairman, just for the record, my 1433 01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:29,440 name is Cardinal Stro. I am the director of planning and community development 1434 01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:33,520 with the city of Alvette. Uh and this is a tax amendment. So unlike uh having the 1435 01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:37,679 site plan and illustrations all the pretty pictures uh and there we're 1436 01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:40,880 looking to amend our subdivision code specifically the section referring to 1437 01:45:39,199 --> 01:45:44,960 condominiums plats and additional requirements. The next slide will show 1438 01:45:42,639 --> 01:45:49,280 the the specific section and the changes in that is to remove the references to 1439 01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:53,360 multif family or anything residential. Uh what this does it gets us more 1440 01:45:51,199 --> 01:45:58,000 consistent with the condominium act. You see there reference of chapter 448 the 1441 01:45:55,840 --> 01:46:02,880 revised statutes of Missouri. They kind of say that we we really can't hold a uh 1442 01:46:00,639 --> 01:46:05,840 a distinction in terms of condominiums whether they're residential or 1443 01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:11,280 non-residential that they can be applied to buildings a building replace or the 1444 01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:16,159 sale of the building uh and they're I'm hoping I address that correctly with and 1445 01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:19,600 there and we're just getting our code more consistent with the state. 1446 01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:21,520 » This is what most other cities in >> that is correct. 1447 01:46:20,719 --> 01:46:26,080 » Correct. Okay. >> Does that also apply to like industrial 1448 01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:30,719 or office space as well? Yeah. >> Good. I'm surprised the word condominium 1449 01:46:27,679 --> 01:46:34,520 doesn't mean living dorms doile, but you learn something new every day. 1450 01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:41,440 » Is there any uh with the word subdivision in there, does that does 1451 01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:44,560 that word imply one thing or another? I'm not sure what a you know, a 1452 01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:49,679 condominium as a building versus a condominium subdivision. 1453 01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:53,280 » Condominium is a form of subdivision. And so I think when you go through 1454 01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:57,600 chapter 405 and go through the the definition sections that's where that 1455 01:46:55,040 --> 01:47:02,239 that term subdivision is refer representing both a process and then a 1456 01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:05,440 product of that process too. I think that's what where the that you're trying 1457 01:47:04,719 --> 01:47:09,040 to address >> feels similar the word dwelling but you 1458 01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:11,520 again I don't care I trust if this is what this 1459 01:47:09,679 --> 01:47:17,520 » the code's going towards and it gets us clear of that that makes sense. 1460 01:47:14,239 --> 01:47:20,960 » All right questions from the council. Anyone in the public online would like 1461 01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:27,040 to speak to this? >> I think there are some items that record 1462 01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:31,199 through our 2024 comprehensive plan update, the municipal code and zoning 1463 01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:36,080 map uh the staff presentation and memorandum to the plan commission dated 1464 01:47:33,199 --> 01:47:40,880 July 23rd, 2026. In that presentation and and that is part of your link uh in 1465 01:47:38,480 --> 01:47:44,239 your staff memo, uh there are references to what other communities had uh in 1466 01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:47,920 there, what they they were all doing, all of them being consistent. uh this 1467 01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:51,920 public hearing notice because this is a public hearing and it was posted in the 1468 01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:56,080 county in St. Louis County on August 10th, 2026. And then we did not have a 1469 01:47:54,480 --> 01:48:02,040 list of addresses, so I'm sorry I didn't take that off uh there and then this 1470 01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:02,040 presentation before the commission. 1471 01:48:02,480 --> 01:48:11,360 Any other questions from council? >> All right. Anyone online? 1472 01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:15,679 » Yep. We will close the public hearing and the second reading will be on 1473 01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:18,639 September 8th. Thank you, mayor. >> Thank you. 1474 01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:22,239 » All right, moving on to item 16, surface 1475 01:48:20,639 --> 01:48:25,040 transportation block grant agreement with Missouri Highways and 1476 01:48:23,440 --> 01:48:31,480 Transportation Commission for the North Price Phase One Grant Project. 1477 01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:31,480 » Good evening, Mayor. 1478 01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:38,320 » Good evening, mayor and council members. Again, Bruce McGregor, public works 1479 01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:43,920 director. Um back in January uh work session, we discussed our second uh 1480 01:48:40,719 --> 01:48:50,000 application for a surface transportation suballocated grant for North Price Road 1481 01:48:47,199 --> 01:48:56,239 section one or phase one old bottom road to uh Delmare. It's a little over 2,100 1482 01:48:53,760 --> 01:49:00,719 linear feet. We had applied the previous year and and didn't score high enough. 1483 01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:06,639 So we made some strategic amendments to our application and uh basically 1484 01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:11,199 offloaded some of the uh engineering work out of the grant as the city 1485 01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:16,560 responsibility to try to meet a threshold to score more points which is 1486 01:49:13,440 --> 01:49:21,920 one of the criteria used when the uh committee is reviewing the uh the grant 1487 01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:25,760 applications. Uh so we found out a little bit earlier by looking at the 1488 01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:29,920 agendas for the uh commission at East West Gateway that we were on the 1489 01:49:27,119 --> 01:49:36,480 recommended list and then a couple weeks ago we got a formal notice from uh MDOT 1490 01:49:33,679 --> 01:49:42,960 from the local projects uh administrator that we were on the list for the uh 1491 01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:47,280 meeting this week for award approval and that they recommended uh to hit the 1492 01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:50,880 ground running that we present our uh the agreement to council for a 1493 01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:57,679 pre-authorization uh to uh to uh execute the agreement 1494 01:49:54,639 --> 01:50:03,360 should the uh board uh go ahead and do the expected uh you know decision this 1495 01:50:00,480 --> 01:50:08,400 week. Uh be glad to answer any questions about the project, the timing, um next 1496 01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:12,639 steps, what we've already completed, anything like that. 1497 01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:13,920 » Excited about it. >> Yeah. 1498 01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:18,000 » Yeah. >> Good snooping. 1499 01:50:15,199 --> 01:50:22,320 » Yeah. And just FYI as well, uh, since Amron had been so busy there, we've 1500 01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:27,280 received notice for them that they've done all of the energizing work on the 1501 01:50:25,119 --> 01:50:33,040 circuits, uh, they may be coming back into town over the next few months, 1502 01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:38,719 removing some obsolete cable uh, from the runs, but everything is in service 1503 01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:44,000 uh, for that uh, load balancing or load relief project uh, for the distribution 1504 01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:48,880 in University City and Leoo uh, just since it's in that same area that that 1505 01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:52,800 project is done. Uh there >> so if we were to get final approval for 1506 01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:56,560 this, I think this is question in everyone's mind. When would this project 1507 01:50:54,800 --> 01:51:02,400 be realistically done? >> Well, so that's a a very fair question. 1508 01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:07,920 What we have done uh last year uh we had committed to doing the survey. Uh this 1509 01:51:05,199 --> 01:51:13,679 year what we had began we began in last budget year which is in the spring was 1510 01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:18,880 the design work. Uh our intent is to have our what what they call an RE 1511 01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:24,639 request for environmental review. So that is a uh a submitt that goes to 1512 01:51:21,440 --> 01:51:28,239 Jefferson City to basically clear any environmental impacts we have and that 1513 01:51:26,480 --> 01:51:34,880 might be more than just like hazardous materials but like native people or some 1514 01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:40,800 other social economic uh impacts uh along with uh ecology as well. You know 1515 01:51:37,599 --> 01:51:45,040 are we displacing any bats? The biggest unknown we have is rightaway 1516 01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:50,639 acquisition. So, we have a 40-way rightway width. We want to maximize our 1517 01:51:48,480 --> 01:51:56,719 existing condition of two sidewalks, right? One on either side. Uh we want to 1518 01:51:53,280 --> 01:52:01,199 have a safe roadway for motorists and for cyclists. And we still want to have 1519 01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:05,920 that appearance that's, you know, I think feels softer to us, which is a 1520 01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:12,080 tree lawn. So to accomplish all that and relocate utilities and and other things, 1521 01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:18,000 we need at minimum a temporary construction easement for grading uh 1522 01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:24,560 from probably all of the uh property owners along the alignment. Okay. So um 1523 01:52:22,480 --> 01:52:29,119 once we start through this process and get the rear submitted, we'll be 1524 01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:33,840 planning public meetings. Um we'll be getting the word out, maybe going 1525 01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:36,960 doortodoor. Um, every time I walk around with a vest with the engineer and we're 1526 01:52:35,599 --> 01:52:41,679 looking at conditions, you know, interested parties come out. So many 1527 01:52:39,119 --> 01:52:45,599 folks are quite excited about it. But, you know, once you start talking about 1528 01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:51,040 changing, you know, the side of your house, people, you know, can start to 1529 01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:55,920 question things. So, um, we always hope that we don't get to condemnation. We've 1530 01:52:53,119 --> 01:53:01,119 done it before. And on the old bottom project, I think we submitted the final 1531 01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:08,239 court documents 2 or 3 days before our grant expired uh which was uh almost $2 1532 01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:13,360 million for that project. So um we hope we never get there again uh on there. So 1533 01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:18,880 that's our biggest announcement. So So the long story short, we would hope to 1534 01:53:16,719 --> 01:53:24,639 be doing construction for the schedule in 3 years. Um I'm hoping we can be 1535 01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:29,280 ahead of that. Um, I'm optimistic that our residents will be enthusiastic. 1536 01:53:26,480 --> 01:53:33,360 We'll have a nice design, um, and we'll be able to start the negotiation sooner 1537 01:53:31,199 --> 01:53:38,560 in the involvement and, you know, get everybody signed off on. So any type of 1538 01:53:36,480 --> 01:53:47,520 um federal grant or grant run through MODOT requires the city to do a lot more 1539 01:53:43,679 --> 01:53:52,719 um work and there are a lot more steps that need to be taken than if we were 1540 01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:57,599 just doing a regular street project, right? And so that is why it requires a 1541 01:53:55,119 --> 01:54:02,800 lot more time. Uh realistically, you know, I would tell people three to four 1542 01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:07,760 years. Give yourself a little uh leeway because it's not just us that has to do 1543 01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:12,000 the work. Um when we do rideway acquisition, we do 1544 01:54:10,239 --> 01:54:15,599 all of that and then MDOT has to go through and approve all of that and we 1545 01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:20,719 can't get started on the next step till we finish right away. And then plans, 1546 01:54:18,719 --> 01:54:24,560 MDOT has to approve all of that. So there's a lot of kind of us doing a lot 1547 01:54:22,639 --> 01:54:29,119 of work and then waiting on others and then doing a lot of work and waiting on 1548 01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:32,639 others. So if you want to give um give your constituents kind of a realistic 1549 01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:36,719 answer, 3 to four years. >> We have the same concerns of 1550 01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:39,360 hypothetically a gas line that isn't marked where 1551 01:54:37,599 --> 01:54:44,239 » Yeah. And and and one of the challenges is like what we ran into on the cost 1552 01:54:41,199 --> 01:54:49,280 share project is the area team meets once a week. So and we aren't privy to 1553 01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:54,080 the meeting. So they meet, they review, they ask a question. Well, then we have 1554 01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:58,239 a week to respond and then they ask another question and then we have 1555 01:54:55,599 --> 01:55:03,440 another week to respond. So, you know, it's not like we can make these 1556 01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:08,480 decisions on the fly. Um, and it so so so that's exactly right. And and we have 1557 01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:12,960 we follow and we do everything by the rules anyway, but we we have extreme 1558 01:55:11,199 --> 01:55:18,320 oversight on rightway acquisition following what's called the Uniform Act. 1559 01:55:15,199 --> 01:55:22,560 Okay. It is uh designed to protect the property owner, you know, and make sure 1560 01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:28,800 that everything is done, everything is properly appraised, every opportunity is 1561 01:55:25,119 --> 01:55:33,119 given for the the owner to review and sign off on, you know, without being 1562 01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:36,880 coerced. So, I mean, I always feel good that I know we did the right thing. You 1563 01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:40,239 know, we always appraise everything. We sometimes we get second opinions. We did 1564 01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:44,159 that on the cost share project because we wanted to make sure it was such a big 1565 01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:48,880 acquisition that we were doing the right thing and everything was being fair uh 1566 01:55:47,599 --> 01:55:53,440 you know for oversight. >> So to answer your question are we going 1567 01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:57,360 to find something unexpected? Yes. >> And it could be something positive 1568 01:55:55,040 --> 01:56:00,320 unexpected. It might not be something positive. it. Who knows? 1569 01:55:59,599 --> 01:56:05,760 » Um, >> one of the most positive that's ahead. 1570 01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:10,000 » Um, I don't know. Could be we need fewer ride ofway than we thought, right? Yeah. 1571 01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:12,000 Um, there will almost always be something unexpected. 1572 01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:16,719 » Yeah. >> All right. Fun times. 1573 01:56:13,679 --> 01:56:20,800 » All right. Any other questions? And anyone want to make 1574 01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:26,480 » uh make a motion to authorize the city manager to execute an STBG agreement 1575 01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:32,400 with the Missouri Transportation Commission for the North Price Road 1576 01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:34,880 phase 1 project contingent upon final award approval. 1577 01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:38,800 » Second. >> All right. Motion made second. Can we 1578 01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:40,480 please pull the council? >> Council member Dragal. 1579 01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:42,159 » Yes. >> Council member Solomonov. 1580 01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:43,599 » Yes. >> Council member Clark. 1581 01:56:43,199 --> 01:56:46,560 » Yes. >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman. 1582 01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:48,320 » Yes. Mayor Lewis. >> Yes. 1583 01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:50,639 » Motion has passed. >> Thank you very much. 1584 01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:53,360 » Thank you very much. Good luck. >> Excited. 1585 01:56:51,599 --> 01:56:58,639 » All right. Item 17, hearing from citizens part two. Does anyone in the 1586 01:56:56,239 --> 01:57:01,639 audience or online wish to make a comment? 1587 01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:07,280 » We're looking at one person. >> Yeah, one person. All right, we'll move 1588 01:57:05,199 --> 01:57:12,159 on to item 18, review and acceptance of minutes. Uh, anyone have any corrections 1589 01:57:09,119 --> 01:57:15,440 or notes to call out on the minutes? >> All right. If not, I'll take a motion to 1590 01:57:14,639 --> 01:57:19,360 approve. >> I'd like to make a motion to approve the 1591 01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:20,960 council minutes from uh August 11th, 2026. 1592 01:57:20,320 --> 01:57:24,400 » Second. >> All right. Could we please pull the 1593 01:57:22,159 --> 01:57:26,000 council? >> Council member Juel, 1594 01:57:25,599 --> 01:57:27,520 » yes. >> Council member Solomonov, 1595 01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:28,800 » yes. >> Council member Clark, 1596 01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:30,800 » yes. >> Chairman Prom Halman, 1597 01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:31,840 » yes. >> Mayor Lewis, 1598 01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:34,800 » yes. >> Motion has passed. All 1599 01:57:33,119 --> 01:57:37,840 » right. Thank you. We'll move on to item 19, city attorney's report. 1600 01:57:36,239 --> 01:57:40,239 » No report this evening. >> All right. But we do have a close 1601 01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:44,560 session. >> Yep. Okay. All right. Right. Moving on 1602 01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:46,800 to item 20, close session. So, can I please get a motion to go into close 1603 01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:51,520 session? >> Like to make a motion go into close 1604 01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:56,400 session pursuant to the revised statutes of the state of Missouri. Discuss 1605 01:57:54,000 --> 01:58:02,080 client, excuse me, attorney client privileges, communications pursuant to 1606 01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:09,639 section 610.021 and real for and real estate matters 1607 01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:09,639 pursuant to section 610.0212. 1608 01:58:10,239 --> 01:58:12,560 » All right. All right. Do I hear a second? 1609 01:58:11,679 --> 01:58:18,880 » Second. >> Please pull the council. 1610 01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:21,760 » Council member Lewis. I'm sorry. This is this is the wrong one. Council member 1611 01:58:21,119 --> 01:58:23,360 Duel. >> Yes. 1612 01:58:22,159 --> 01:58:24,719 » Council member Solomon. >> Yes. 1613 01:58:23,679 --> 01:58:26,719 » Council member Clark. >> Yes. 1614 01:58:25,119 --> 01:58:27,840 » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman. >> Yes. 1615 01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:31,840 » Mayor Lewis. >> Yes. All right. We will now close this 1616 01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:35,159 regular session and move into executive floor session. 1617 01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:41,679 » All right. We'll call the we'll close the executive session and call the 1618 01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:46,880 regular session back to order. Um no major decisions were made uh at this 1619 01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:50,400 point. Um >> I'll make a motion to adjurnn 1620 01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:54,920 » and we will Yeah, we will adjourn at 9:45 p.m. Thank you.