All right. Good evening everyone. We'll call the Ovette City Council meeting on
August 25th, 2026 to order. Please, can we please have roll call?
» Mayor Lewis >> here.
» Chairman Prom Pashan Helman >> here.
» Council member Clark >> here.
» Council member Solomonov >> here.
» Council member Durgel >> here.
» All righty. Uh, are there any communications to share at this time?
» I have no written communications. All right, we'll move on to item number
three, city manager report, please. >> Good evening.
Let me
share my screen.
» We were late, so sorry. >> All right. Um, good evening everyone.
Um, so, um, I have a number of upcoming events. We are winding up summer and,
uh, fall is always super busy for us. So, we encourage everybody to come out
to Paris Baguette, um, August 31st, which is next Monday between 8 and 10:00
a.m. in the morning to meet with one of our, uh, police officers. So, coffee
with a cop uh, will be during that time. There will be coffee and some limited
free pastries. So, if you have not had a chance to uh try a pastry at Paris
Baguette, this would be a great opportunity to do that, as well as uh
come talk to one of Olivet's finests.
Uh and September 15th is Night Out. So, this is an opportunity for you and your
neighbors to gather to have a block party and then if you sign up uh some
oliveette city officials, including the uh police officers, the fire department,
you might get the fire truck or the ambulance uh to come and to stop by and
to say hello um meet and greet with uh our oliveette community. So, um we would
encourage all of the neighbors to go ahead and sign up. If you have
questions, uh, please reach out to Lieutenant Selzer in the police
department.
And every year we do the Battle of the Badges, which is a competition between
the fire department and the police department. Uh, it is essentially a
blood drive for the American Red Cross. And both our fire department and our
police department have compelling stories, personal stories about
grandchildren uh and their need for blood, hence the blood drive. And so
individuals who come and donate blood are given an opportunity to cast a vote
for either the police department or the fire department. Um and at the you know
at the end of the drive the winning department receives some gift from the
losing department. Um the fire department has more years that they have
won uh than the police department. So come out donate for a good cause to the
American cross and then choose which public safety group is your favorite.
Trivia night is being hosted at Five Oaks on September 18th. There are nine
tables left, so bring your friends uh for a table of eight. The theme this
year is 90s and 2000s sitcoms, so there should be something for everyone. Um
register for your table and we hope to see you there. I think there's at least
one staff table. Um and I think a couple other folks have gotten um tables for
the trivia night.
The great Olivet cleanout is happening again. It is at Five Oaks on Warson.
This is a change from um Stacy Park. So in years past it's been at Stacy Park.
This year it is at Five Oaks on Warson. It's on the lower parking lot. So this
is an opportunity for residents to either have documents shredded if you
have some of those in your office or your home office. This is not for um a
business cleanout, but if you do have a home office and you have documents that
you would like shredded or if you have any um e-waste, so almost anything with
a cord, uh they will take and uh recycle those for you.
» Do you know if it's still a drive-thru? >> Yes, as far as I know, it is still a
drive-thru. And so there is a very specific route for you to uh to come
through. They will take the items um out of your vehicle. It's very easy. you
should be um in and out in not much time at all. So, and we did receive the
grant. So, we've signed off on that and we did receive the grant for this.
» The fall and winter activity guide is out. These are all of the recreational
programs that the city is offering through the fall and the winter. We have
some hard copies out in the lobby if you would like. Uh it's also on the city's
website and should be hitting should actually be in homes already. So, we
would encourage you to check those out. We have activities for all ages.
And then I just always encourage everyone to sign up for weekly, which is
our weekly e newswsletter. And then just some general city updates.
Um, our new finance director, Julia Gwyn, starts tomorrow. So, we probably
uh in September, we will bringing be bringing her to council to to introduce
her. Uh we are recruiting for another police officer. Uh two weeks ago I told
you that we had made conditional officer offers to two individuals. Uh one of
them accepted. They are in the pre-employment screening phase. Um the
other candidate decided that uh he was going to remain at his uh his place of
employment. Um and then the follow-up from the Hicks Carter Hicks the
employment engagement committee is meeting this week. They're going to
start working on um employee recognition and then um I have asked Hicks Carter
Hicks to craft a proposal to help the city with an internal communications
plan. uh one of the uh comments and areas of deficiency on the survey was
communication and that's a pretty broad um topic and so I do think working with
them to create and improve some of our internal communications is a good start
to making headway on that uh survey result. Are they going to talk to
employees to understand kind of like what I I know they have the survey
results, but to understand like where they saw gaps in communication. Will
they have those conversations before they craft?
» They're going to craft me a proposal to do it. So like we'll get a scope of
work. >> Oh, proposal to even reach out and talk
to people. Gotcha. >> Correct. Not build a plan and then say
Okay. Correct. Gotcha.
» Uh and then here are your upcoming meeting dates. And so with that, I can
answer any council questions. questions?
No. All right. Thank you very much. >> All right. We are going to move on to
staff reports, please, then. >> All right. Uh, starting with fire
department. So, we often talk about the fire department and their um
firefighting training and their um calls for fire. But I thought this month we
might just kind of highlight the fact that they do run an ambulance and that
takes a a good amount of their time. They actually run quite a few medical
calls. So just uh looking at this chart, this is on
average about five calls a day that they're running. Um, as you can see,
they spend a lot of time in the city of Alvette, but we are also contracted for
um, fire service, fire and EMS service for the pocket of uninccorporated that's
just north of us on Dealman. So, we respond there. St. Louis County
contracts with us, pays us to provide that service to them. And then we do get
called out of town um often to um Creve Corps or U City um or certain things on
the highway we might get called out for for both police and or for EMS and fire
parks and wreck. Uh we just finished earlier this month uh municipals. So,
municipals is this uh part of this photo right here is h offered every other year
and it is a camp that highlights the city departments. So, the police
department had a day and brought out the mounted patrol from St. Charles County,
brought out some therapy dogs, brought out some um other fun police things. The
fire department had a day had an half a day and they got to go down the slide
and the fire department because we have a slide and not a pole and they got to
do some other fun uh firefighter things. This particular picture we had an
opportunity to partner with Emerson who is a business here in the city of
Alvette and they came and did uh science things with uh with the kids. So they
did the egg drop project um learning about gravity and um force distribution
and things like that. And so the kids had a good time. And then the other
thing with uh the parks department, this happens to be the segment uh one of the
new segments of the Centennial Greenway. So now that that greenway has been in
for more than one year, maintenance falls to the city. And so this is our um
horiculturalist and our park staff who are clearing um
clearing the fence lines uh along along that particular section of the trail
planning department. So these are fiscal year to date. So from June of 25 through
July uh no I'm sorry July of 25 through June of this year. So, as you can see,
um they were pretty consistent. Uh lots of people got their roof replaced um in
this particular fiscal year, most likely from uh the storm that came through in
um in this in May of last year. Um and we see a lot of um tenant finishes. So,
this could be like reinvestment by businesses or new businesses coming in
or updates to businesses. Uh so this is a good sign and what has um been keeping
one aspect of what has been keeping um Carlos and his staff very busy over the
course of the year.
The police department uh officer Bagsby, this is Officer Bagsby here. He went to
Aphina Healthc Care's event um talking about gun safety in particular uh
gunlocks. The Alvette Police Department donated 50 gunlocks for this particular
event. So, this is just a reminder that our police department has gunlocks
available to anyone in the community who is interested. There's no cost. Uh, and
they are available Monday through Friday, normal business hours. Just go
see the records clerk um here at city center uh if that's something that you
are interested.
And then public works. Um, if you have driven at Price, North Price and Olive,
you have seen a lot of work there. Uh, this happens to be the contractor. They
did some paving overnight. They did a really um a really nice job on that
work. The work here at the 9201 Olive site where um the CBDraton building was,
there has been a delay. It is not a delay related to the city.
It is a delay because a a pipe wasn't where wasn't as deep as we thought it
was. That required some changes to storm
water drains that MDOT took a long time trying to figure out what they wanted.
Um but work is moving forward. In fact, Spire was on site today moving the gas
line that needed to be moved in order to accommodate um the storm drain. So,
we're a little bit behind on where we thought we would be to close out this
project. Um, but it is related to situations beyond our control. And then
we do have some good news. So, as you might recall, we um put in for a grant
for um reconstruction of North Price between
Delmare and Old Bonum um an STPS grant. And while we have not received the grant
yet, we are on the recommended list. So, um, East Swiss Gateway meets later this
week to review that recommended list and hopefully approve that list and
hopefully we will be approved so that we can um move forward
with reconstruction of that section of North Price. It is a multi-year project.
So there will be design time and right-of-way acquisition time and then
construction time. So it's looking probably a 3 to four year long u process
and that is all I have unless you have any additional questions for me.
» Questions? Pencil? No, it's very thorough. Thank you very much.
» Thank you. >> All right, we will move on to monthly
financial reports, please.
All right, I am filling in for our interim finance director who um she had
a previously scheduled event this evening. So um you are seeing the report
for the second month of the year. Um
as you can see we are we are on track. Um general revenue started the year
above expectations by about $37,000. General fund expenditures are also above
expectations. Um this is normal. We have a variety of um like all of our
insuranceances are due. So workers comp, liability, property, all of that is due
um at the very beginning of the year. So um that's not unexpected.
Um it does result in an unfavorable variance. But again, we are um this is
the July financial report. So at this point, we were one month into uh into
the into the into the year. Um it is not unusual for property taxes
to be slow. Again, we get those in um December and January.
And um parks and wreck revenues started the year mixed um and they do um they
exceeded budget projections due to high soccer enrollments. So soccer is very
very popular. And then the chart of our month, this is our monthly uh 1% sales
tax, which we took out a bunch of the noise. If you might remember past
graphs, there were a lot of lines there. So this is just the last two years. So
fiscal 25, fiscal 26 and then where we are um for 27. So we are of course
higher than 25 and a little bit below um of 26.
So if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer those for you.
» We anticipate a drop off or I don't remember what the drop off. Yeah,
» we don't anticipate the drop off, but I will say sales tax tends to be cyclical.
So, anything that we uh receive in September is actually from people buying
things in July because it's always a two-month lag.
» Um, so we could it could also be um July is a
is half the year and a quarter of the year. And so there are certain entities
that only report sales tax half of the year, half of the way through the year
and a quarter of the way through the year. So that um drop off could have
been somebody missed the cut off. Um so there are a variety of of factors that
could um account for that. >> But it bounced back up bounced back up.
» Correct. Yeah. >> Correct. particularly if it's um they
just miss the cut off because then you get to you know you get it the next
month. So
» that's all I have unless you have anything else.
» No. Any questions? >> No.
» Okay. >> All right. Thank you. All right. We're
going to move on to city council liaison reports for each council member to give
an update of kind of activities they've been up to. Uh council member Clark,
» I have no reports at this time. Council member Jurgal.
» Uh we had a parks meeting. Um most of the meeting was the installation of two
new commissioners. So uh was kind of orient or orienting them to the process.
And it was great going through it again because u uh they went over all of you
know of city government and uh I know I was given the training beforehand but
when you hear it the second time it sinks in a little bit more. So that's
always good. Um, one other thing that's coming up with uh the parks is going to
be the review of the Indian Meadows uh pavilions. So, that that's on their
agenda and uh should be moving along. >> Great. Uh, Council Member Sono.
» Uh, no report for me this evening. I do have an EDC meeting next Monday.
» It's on. >> It's
Oh, the light is hitting my mistake. It's my first day. All right. uh
chairman promis I attended the PCDC meeting on August
20th and at that meeting an outdoor uh metal canopy was approved for the brass
tap to help extend the seasons for them um and extend some seating outside
during the wintertime months. So, that was approved. Um, and that the roof of
that structure will stay throughout the year, but then there's a wall kind of
enclosure that's temporary for the uh months of November through Feb fe
November through February. Um, we also discussed continued
discussing a text amendment for coin operated laundromats.
Um and a new single family home was approved for 1123 Hilltop
and uh also had discussion on a text amendment to allow for other warehousing
and storage that would be specifically for car condominiums.
So, these are uh spaces that would be um condominiums that would be sold to
individuals uh who would likely store their luxury cars, potentially
um RVs and boats. Um but they would be individual condominiums. So, kind of a
new thing um coming before the commission and and so it's um at the
discussion stage at this point. Um and that's all. Thank you.
» Great. Uh a couple of things. I had the privilege of speaking uh chamber of
commerce uh for the state of the city and it's an opportunity where I get to
go and give a state of the city of how we're doing from an economic and
residential and development and just how we're overall you know what is all of
that and get to brag on all of that which was very exciting and a big thank
you to staff Kiana and uh others for helping you know draft things put
together a great slideshow and it was you know really wellreceived and get and
get to meet some people there so that was really nice and then today I
attended the Olivet housing authority uh where they had a few procedural items
reviewing the financial audit reports approving other things talking about
next steps on everything around some of the policies we're moving forward on the
housing. So that that is progressing as well. Um and then um yeah those were
things that I got to attend. So uh we'll move on to item seven items from council
members. So, a chance for us just if we've been hearing things that you want
to bring up for a future topic, we won't go deep into them now. And uh just a
open forum. >> Nope.
» Nothing for me. >> All right. No,
» nothing for me. >> Nothing for me either. The only things
I'll mention um since not everyone probably was able to attend previous
meetings we've had and since I see a lot of uh speakers here which is going to be
great is we did at a previous work session a few weeks ago discuss the
Indian Meadows Pavilion and as uh council member Joel mentioned that's
going to come before parks and wreck where they're going to we asked to go
back to their ask for their assessment and then it'll come back to the council
at that point um and we'd given the direction to look at what it would take
to remove and what their thoughts were and then uh we'll get their feedback on
that. uh previous meeting we'd obviously discussed block cameras with the uh
chief of police and so that will be on a future agenda so just calling that out
as well as the NIT policy will be on a future uh agenda in the future as well
uh and then obvious
uh I imagine people here to speak as well and so appreciated that we had
committed ID committed back that we're going to meet with our legal team to
understand what options all of it has because it is a unique situation and
then uh happy to meet with the concerned citizens themselves and any council are
welcome to join me to want to hear everyone's you know concerns in person
and understand everything and then after that we'll take whatever the appropriate
actions that we can and don't know what those are right now can't promise
anything but you know want to hear from everyone and then we'll we'll see what
comes of that so all right uh we're going to move on to hearing from
citizens so this is a portion of the agenda where anyone present in person or
virtually may address the city council regarding any topic including those
later in the agenda each speaker is allowed up three minutes to address the
mayor and city council. Hearing from citizens is designed for councils to
receive feedback rather than for a direct dialogue. We will take speakers
in person first followed by any online. If you are in person, please complete a
speaker card and give it to the clerk. If you've already given your card to the
clerk, we will take you in the order submitted on your card. If you are
online, wish to speak, please use the raise your hand feature and you will be
added as a speaker. For all speakers, we ask that you state your name and address
for the record prior to leaving the remarks and that you keep the three
minutes and just so for the equity for everyone. So, uh, first are Nancy and
Bob Martin, please.
And if you don't mind turning on the mic, please.
» Yep. Perfect.
» Um, good evening. My name is Bob Martin. Nancy Martin
» and we live at 39 Brford. Um, last week we sent all you guys an email regarding
uh AZZ and a Missouri uh state statute. Uh, this is concerning AZ galvanizing.
Um, thank you Mr. Mayor for responding. >> Yes.
» Um, following are excer ex excuse me excerpts from the Missouri state chapter
220 nuisance. nuisances. A nuisance is any act done or committed or suffered to
be done, committed by any person or any substance or thing kept, maintained,
placed or found in any public or private property that is injurous to the public
health, safety or welfare. are to permit premises to become unsightly,
unsanitary, or obnoxious or obl to the vicini to the vicinity or offensive to
the senses of users of the public way abudding the premises that depreciates
the enjoyment and the use of the property in the immediate vicinity to
such an extent that it is harmful to the community in which the property is
situated or such a condition exists. AZZ Galvanizing fits every one of these
definitions of a nuisance. It's zoned light industrial, but it's expanded
several times over the years. It's not light industrial anymore. We are asking
Alvette to protect its citizens from this nuisance and use statute title 7
cities, towns, and villages chapter 71.7 I'm sorry 71.780
nuisances expensive suppression how paid the noise and toxic emissions are
unbearable and hazardous to our neighbors health and quality of life and
ours. Uh, we are sleeping in our bedroom that faces away from ACZ because we
can't sleep in our master bedroom anymore from the noise. We can't enjoy
our beautiful yard. We've lived in Olivet for 32 years. It's home. Um,
» please help us. >> Please help us.
Um, they're getting worse and worse. And we're up on Brford High where the
noise really hits us, but our neighbors in Indian Meadows are just getting
creamed. They're getting gassed. It's terrible. But thank you very much for
coming. Really appreciate it. >> Thank you.
» Thank you. >> Thank you.
» All right. Uh moving on. Uh Jenny Littleton.
Hi, my name is Jenny Littleton. I live at 9639 Haron Drive. I just want to ask
my city council if they would please support and help all of the residents
deal with this do's a galvanizing. It's to the point where my son who's
seven, he's beginning to have temper tantrums because he has a trampoline, a
basketball hoop, a soccer net that now he can't play because when he begins to
play, I have to make him come in. And so now he's getting upset, stumping yelling
in the house. What's the purpose of me having this if I can't play? When are
they going to move that company? He's seven years old. This is the point where
he doesn't have temper tantrums. Now he's having them because he's not
getting to play outside. And this was for the summer. So, I had to make fun
activities in my basement. So, I mean, now the children, it's to the point
where I'm asking the kids and my subdivision, you you guys got to go home
now. You can't play here. Can we come back when the smoke is gone? Yes, you
can come back. So, now the kids, it's just getting to be too much. And then
also, I'm I know you brought up about you're going to bring it up with the
parks and you guys are going to redisuss about the pavilion. Please move that
pavilion. There's so much going on that my son is seven. He said, "There's
always something going on over here at this pavilion. Problems every day. He's
seven. There was a time he didn't know anything about that. Now he's seven."
And he's saying these things. And one of the neighbors, she couldn't be here
today. She did ask me, "Until you guys decide about how you're going to move
it, would you please at least move the tables underneath the pavilion while you
guys are trying to figure out how you're going to move that pavilion?" So until
you have a due date when you're going to move it, could you please at least move
the tables? Cuz a lot of that buffoonery that happens in the morning, afternoon,
and night, they won't have anywhere to sit and lay and do all of that extra
activity that's unwanted and that we don't need. So I just wanted to ask you
guys, would you please bless our community to help all the residents
dealing with a galvanizing and the nuisance unwanted pavilion, please?
Thank you so much. Thank you very much for coming.
All right. Uh Willamina Shackleford, please.
» Good evening. >> Willamina Shackle for 9656 here on
first. I'm in agreement with Nancy and Bob. It is horrible and re lately it's
just roars so loud. 3:00 am, four o'clock. It wakes you up and then you
can't go back to sleep. They'll turn it off or turn it down maybe about 7:30, I
guess, when they figure people or whatever's going on. But it's just been
ridiculous. Just ridiculous. And we haven't really said a lot because, you
know, that there were attorneys working on it. So, you know, we want to continue
that. But we need the help of the city. So, I hope that that uh state statute
will help. I got a couple other things real quick. Um, one is our park and I
know when they redid the the uh the trail, but they didn't do anything to
the park. Is that on Olivet? It's kind of bumpy. You know, it's the asphalt,
the black that's in the actual park in Indian Meadows. So, it's kind of crumbly
in some areas. So, the other concern is we have two spaces in uh the new park
area that when it we get heavy rain, it's full of water. So the kids go out
there and play. Then they muddy muddy up everything which is by the water park.
And then the other area is by the playground area around one of the trees
is set real low so if we can get that build back up so that the water won't
set there. Um the other one is the trees. We have a lot of dead trees. I
know they've cut some down but when we get any kind of a rain or wind, I should
say wind, there's branches all over the park. And I realize it's more than one
park. So sometimes it take them a while. But then the kids are playing and you
got these big branches that are laying all over the park trail. Uh, one more
thing. How chickens. We got the chicken coupoops gone from
the side of the house, but there is a pin. So, I've asked over and over about
an ordinance to be written so that I don't care about the chickens, but they
need to be fenced in in the back of the house and not in the very front.
This these chicken coops were on the front on the side of the home. and I've
complained for a couple of years. And so it's my understanding that all of that
has been washed aside. I don't know if anybody knows if that is true, but I'm
going to I'm going to research it that that's over. The governor was is the one
that uh approved that, but it's my understanding that they've been fighting
it. So, I don't know. But if not, can we get an ordinance where they are are
fenced in in the back? And then I think that's it. Um Oh. We have another area
in our subdivision and I've complained about it several times. We need some
help uh with uh enforcement of uh property upkeep. So, we got a lot of
issues with that, but I understand we only have one part-time person
and for this city, we could probably use one or two to just do property upkeep
for the for uh all of the the entire uh et
Bruce is here. Brand view on the corner of Grand View and La Hoya. There are
huge papa trees that have grown out into the street. I've asked you can't even
see the street sign. The the trees were trimmed back right at the sign, but of
course they grow back. I'm asking that something be done about those trees
because it's really a hindrance. If you are coming up to the stop sign and
somebody's coming from the other direction, these trees are huge and they
are actually in the street. You familiar with that? you know, been
over there in >> Asia. It's still there. It's just worse.
So, we have several areas where the trees are actually growing into the
street, ground up, not just hanging over. So, they actually block traffic.
» That's it. >> Thank you very much.
» Appreciate it. >> All right. Uh Stephanie Chop.
Hi. Uh, Stephanie Todd, 7 Heather Hill Lane. So, I'm here to support the
residents um near Indian Meadows and their complaints about AZZ as an Olivet
resident, but also I'm representing the Sierra Club and Dark Sky, Missouri who
have who the they have also gotten involved in these issues. There are
really three issues. Light trespass, potential air pollution, and noise. The
light trespass that is occurring should be easy to take care of because St.
Louis County already has an ordinance against it. So, it'd be really good if
someone from Alvette notified the county that light trespass from AZ shining into
residents houses, shining off the property into residents houses and ask
az to shield their lights. No, air pollution and noise are more
difficult. However, Olivet can do something about it. The residents have
been complaining about AZ for at least two years. But they didn't give up. They
found a regulation that cities can enforce ordinances up to a half mile
outside their boundaries. Alvette needs to step up and support its citizens. The
county does not have the necessary equipment to determine if ACC is
emitting pollutants and to
and and to identify the pollutants. However, the outside groups that that
they're working with um they're trying to um install air monitors and analyze
air samples and noise monitors. So, I encourage you to work with them to get
data to back up their claims. Um, noise is a harder problem, but put
yourself in these resident shoes. How would you like to hear a loud bang
several times in the middle of the night?
I'm asking you to find a way to stop the loud noise at night and determine if az
is polluting the air and if they are to try to stop them. These problems should
not be ignored and all of it can and should do something about them.
» Thank you very much. Appreciate your time.
» Right. Is there anyone else in the audience who wanted to speak?
» Good evening. >> Evening.
» My name is Denise Williams. I live at 9600 Hiron Drive.
I just have to say I live ac across the street from the park
where all this noise
have been going on for quite a while.
And hearing this noise all day
and throughout your time of rest
is depreciating your livelihood.
I'm 70 and I'm not getting any rest. I've retired to come home and enjoy the
kids, enjoy my bed where I've been missing it for all this time. And then
you come home and you're hearing all of this unnecessary
noise that's not supposed to be a part of your life in Eloette.
I used to call Alvette when I moved here sleepy hollow.
Very quiet, very surreal.
That has been stolen. And
days and days and days have passed by and all of you all are sleeping
comfortably while we're up in the I walk the trail three times a day. You hear
it? It's supposed to be surreal on the um path. It's supposed to be something
great that you all have done for the community.
I don't think so. Cuz you're walking, you're smelling that
stuff big just so much smoke it covers the whole
park. The stench comes in your windows.
You smell it at night. Not including the noise, but the smoke,
the stench.
So imagine, close your eyes and imagine
that's how your days are going. Every day you got to deal with this every day.
Your kids are inhaling this poison.
We're at 70. They're cutting years off our lives smelling it. I'm sure cuz it's
chemicals that we're absorbing into our bodies. the kids are absorbing over at
the park that is so nice to have in the neighborhood, but it's being blown
straight to hell. Their lives are being cut short.
And you guys are
when y'all sleep at night, just think your glory oliveette
is causing suffering for a lot of of your community and we're
just asking you to really take this to heart and understand what we're dealing
with. Thank you.
» Thank you very much for coming. Appreciate it.
All right. Anyone else in the audience wish to speak?
Is there anyone online? Please raise your hand.
All right. Thank you for everyone for your comments. Sincerely appreciate it.
All right. We are going to move on now to item nine. Bill 3066. Could we please
have the title be read? Bill 3066, an ordinance authorizing a special permit
usage for O3BP Associates LLC, owners of the property grounds, addressed as 9600
and 9606 Olive Boulevard, to permit Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an
outdoor display and storage area on the east parking lot portion associated with
their tenant space addressed as 9612 Olive Boulevard. Second reading.
» Thank you.
Good evening, mayor, members of the council. My name is Carlos Trejo. I'm
the director of planning and community development, and I'm requesting a second
reading call for action for uh this bill. We had our public hearing on
August 11th. Be glad to answer any questions, and we do have a
representative in attendance if necessary.
» The only question I had is I think there was a an ask to look at and I think
council man had asked about it like in terms of the location, could it be
wedged into the corner in the back or anything like that? Was that feasible?
Um, in terms of the drawing, if I'm remembering correctly,
» that was related if like parking was an issue.
» Yeah. >> If that and and that may be something
that needs to be looked at if it becomes an issue or not.
» That's fine. >> Um, and but I I think that's what we
were talking about. >> That is correct. Okay.
» That's my understanding. >> Yeah. And I guess my question is a
procedural question related um just with us being a fairly new council. Should
there be an issue that becomes apparent with parking um or traffic movement with
the location safety um what what is the process for if if we approve the special
permit as it is tonight but realize that it is not functioning in in the way that
we intended it to. >> We'll engage with the uh first engage
with the applicant or the petitioner that operates a special use permit. see
what we can try to mitigate what is out there, get a better understanding, uh
then ultimately report back to the council. The council does have the right
to revoke a permit uh if it finds that there is some val validation to the
concerns that are expressed
» question. How do we define parking issues? Like what do we consider that to
be? >> That's a very good question. I mean that
that site I would assume uh that there will be some type of reported incident
on Olive or so. But if somebody just can't find a parking space on a specific
date uh you know they can bring that information we can try to log it and
record it. But you know it would have to be something that that's known uh in
there and then the the process that we had today of the people speaking before
the council noting concerns or issues gets it on the record. I imagine that
makes >> well and I imagine if the city got
notified we that could be brought forward to us but I think about
hypothetically a certain parking lot you know south of us at the end of 170 I
hear people complain about you know all the time it's like you if we hear about
citizens something we can bring up too hopefully it's not an issue and
» ultimately that it is I mean we will report back to the council the council
has you know if there's a consensus that it is an issue I would assume the
council holds the authority to revoke the permit or push
» modify solution.
» And we talked about Dobs only using the first row of parking, right?
» That is a private agreement, I believe, that they have with the property owner
that they're supposed to be using only that.
» Okay. That's not a city enforcable. >> It wasn't anything that we we put in
into our our contingencies or so because that's more again that's open parking
for this. >> Okay.
» Is the parking lot itself owned by one parcel or another? It's the best the
best of my understanding it's all owned by uh or the O3BP Associates which
operates as Biano Properties. They have the the ownership of all the grounds and
then dos leases from them in there. I know there are like three different
parcels identified by county but it's one large site.
» Okay. >> All right.
» And then this is uh fairly random and I do apologize. I did not send this
question to you ahead of time. Has there been any consideration with the little
driveway, not driveway, but uh right ofway area in the front of that
building where you have a curb cut on one side, a curve cut on the other side.
Has there been any consideration to closing that driveway? This obviously is
bigger than this particular special use permit, but through
» it's it's one of those it's a long-term discussion. We put together the council
had authorized the uh us to do the olivet uh boulevard uh conceptual master
plan and it identified uh you know areas and that that's one of the sides.
Unfortunately with the curvature of the road is one problem. The intersections
of the opposite streets on the north side is another problem. and then none
of the aprons align. Um, easy solution is to place a median. That resolve all
the problems, but I'm sure you'll hear a lot about that uh in there. Uh, but over
time working with those property owners, we made them familiar with with the
concept. Uh, ultimately, you know, and we've had discussions about, you know,
kind of nudging them to think think ahead of reassessing the whole parking
layout on the the shopping center. It's a it's tough. It's something I got, you
know, we're, you know, 1963 that was a determination of how that layout was was
put in place and whether they looked at the the external factors and what was
across the street. I can't tell you that. But, uh, it it, you know, I guess
we've made them aware. They know that there are issues. They're looking at
some formal way that maybe uh over time that we can kind of like
reshift or consolidate that but it get becomes expensive and that becomes the
key question. Is it all on their dime or is it something that we collaborate with
them and partner with uh in that process? If you go back to the catalyst
tragedy uh another uh you know uh report that the council funded uh and there why
it didn't go the full extent uh to old bonum road you know it talked about
creating some type of uh traffic uh uh uh improvement district or or
transportation improvement district to look at means of getting that you know
re well it needs to be reassessed in terms of where are the best points of
entry uh in there and and internal circulations are going to be also need
to be looked at and of course the streetscape enhancements. So I hope that
kind of addresses it. I mean it is as long as I my response to you
» probably another night for >> but I think it can be done within within
you know you know the the plan's horizon.
» All right, any other questions? >> I'll entertain a motion. I'll make a
motion to approve bill 3066, an ordinance authorizing a special permit
use for the O3 BP Associates LLC, owners of the property grounds addressed at
9600 and 9606 Alla Boulevard to permit Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an
outdoor display and storage area on the east parking lot portion associated with
their tenant space addressed as 9612 Olive Boulevard.
» Second. All right. Motion made by Council Member Jagos, second by Council
Member Clark. Can we please pull to council?
» Council member Juel. >> Yes.
» Council member Solomonov. >> Yes.
» Council member Clark. >> Yes.
» Chairman Prom Pashan Helman. >> Yes.
» Mayor Lewis. >> Yes.
» The motion is passed. Bill 3066 becomes ordinance 2836.
» Thank you. We'll move on to I think it's the Carlos show tonight, right? Move on
to item 10. Bill 3067. Will you please have the title be read? Bill 3067, an
ordinance authorizing a special permit usage for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the
property grounds, addressed as 10401 Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced
driver assistance systems to operate an indoor automotive repair facility within
the tenants space addressed as 10401 Bower Boulevard, Sweet B. Second
reading. >> Mayor, again, this was uh read at at our
previous meeting on August 11th along with a public hearing. be glad to answer
any specific questions. We do have a representative, Mr. Corbin, and I
believe one of the operators uh in attendance.
» I didn't have any questions. I think we covered it last time as far as I'm
concerned. Does anyone have any questions?
Not to discredit. I think the work was great last time, so we got our answer.
So, it's a very interesting new property to have. No. All right. Then, if anyone
doesn't have any questions, um I'll entertain a motion. I'd like to make a
motion to approve bill 3067, an ordinance authorizing a special permit
use for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the property grounds addressed at 10401
Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced driver assistance systems to operate an
indoor automotive repair facility within the tennis space addressed at 1041 Bower
Boulevard, Sweet B. >> Second.
» All right. U motion's been made and a second. Can we please pull the council?
Council member Dragal, >> yes.
» Council member Solammanov, >> yes.
» Council member Clark, >> yes.
» Chairman Proemp, Shan Halman, >> yes.
» Mayor Lewis, >> yes.
» Motion is passed. Bill 3067 becomes ordinance 2837.
» All right, moving on to item 11, please. Bill 3068. Can we please
» have the title read? >> Bill 3068, an ordinance reaffirming and
adopting chapter 115, article 3, section 115.080 080 to 115.120
conflict of interest for the city of Alvette, Missouri municipal code and
establishing a procedure to disclose potential conflicts of interest and
substantial interests for certain municipal officials. Second reading
» so we covered this last time procedural that we need to do this.
» That's correct. >> All right. I did not have any questions.
Did anyone on the council? >> I had none.
» All right. Then I will entertain a motion. Make a motion to approve bill
3068, an ordinance reaffirming and adopting
chapter 115, article 3, section 115.080 through 115.120,
conflict of interest of the city of Alvette, Missouri municipal code, and
establishing a procedure to disclose potential conflicts of interest and
substantial interests for certain municipal officials.
» All right, we hear a second. >> Second.
» All right. Can we please pull the council?
» Council member Duel. >> Yes.
» Council member Solomonov, >> yes.
» Council member Clark, >> yes.
» Chairman Prom Pashan Helman. >> Yes.
» Mayor Lewis, >> yes.
» Motion is passed. Bill 3068 becomes ordinance 2838.
» Right. We'll move on to item 12. Bill 3069. Can we please have the title be
read? >> Bill 3069, an ordinance granting an
easement to Spire for the installation of an underground gas man at 9201 Olive.
Second reading. Good evening, mayor and council members.
Um, great news today. This buyer was on site to finally begin relocating that
2-in high-pressure man. Um, any questions about our discussion from a
couple weeks ago or thoughts since then about the wonderful world underneath our
pavement [laughter] >> when you put it that way.
» Okay. >> Got a lot of questions. Yeah,
» I do not. I mean, nothing new to add from the
» Okay, so very good. >> Yeah. Nothing yet.
» Anyone? All right, then. I'll entertain a motion,
I guess. Do we have a motion on this directly or We do have a motion, right?
» Yeah. >> So, do do we need just reward it to
approve this? >> Yeah. Um, you should just word it as a
motion to approve bill number 3069, etc. I would like to make a motion
» for bill 3069, an ordinance, an ordinance granting an easement to spire
for the installation of an underground gas m.
» I second that. >> All right. Motion made and seconded. Can
we please pull the council? >> Council member Duel.
» Yes. >> Council member Solomonov.
» Yes. >> Council member Clark.
» Yes. >> Chairman Prom Pashan Halman.
» Yes. >> Mayor Lewis.
» Yes. >> Motion is passed. Bill 3069 becomes
ordinance 2839. >> Thank you very much.
» Thank you. Good luck. All right, move on to item 13. Bill
3070. If we could please have the title be read.
Bill 3070, an ordinance authorizing a special permit use for AC Richardson
LLC, owners of the property grounds, addressed as 1215 Dealman Industrial
Court, to permit SSM Health Health Cardinal Glennon Pediatric Therapy, to
operate a 4566qt medical clinic within the tenant space
addressed as 9375 DM Industrial Drive. First reading and public hearing.
» All right. As part of this public hearing, I'm going to go ahead and open
up the public hearing for this bill. And good evening, Max.
» Yeah, welcome back. >> Thank you. Uh my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm
the director of planning and community development for the city of Alvette. And
tonight I'm here to present bill 3070, which is a special permit use request
for uh medical offices and clinics at 9375 Dilman Industrial Drive. The next
slide will kind of show the location. It's at the corner of Dilman Industrial
Drive and Dilman Industrial Court, which is on the lower left hand corner of of
the parcel. It's a corner parcel uh in there. It's about 3 and 12 acres. The
building itself which you see the Lshape and the white roof there is roughly
31,596 ft. It's a multi-tenant office
warehouse. You might be familiar with the uh the the artery is located in
there along with uh the USGS uh is located in that facility. Uh the
proposed uses of medical office and clinics and since this is light
industrial uh medical offices and clinics are identified in the permitted
uses but only as a special permit and that is why SSM health cardinal linen is
here before you. It's zone L light industrial district and it is authorized
uh as a uh special permit use in the LI district. Uh the next slide
uh kind of talks about the special permit procedure where we try to uh
facilitate and then further our vision and goals with the comprehensive plan
which we hope is reflective of our ordinances in the CO district but allows
us to look at the potential impact the the district itself the comp plan sites
uh sustainability the surrounding impacts and then the council rights to
buffer uh required from additional improvements and imposed some open space
requirements. ments and to uh consider uh some limitations like in hours and
and things of that nature. It goes to our planning and community design
commission for review and a recommendation and then a council holds
the public hearing and then considers actions via an ordinance. On the next
slide, just a couple of things regarding special permit uses. There are some
general conditions that are outlined with our ordinance. Those are that is it
listed in the district? Does it further the comprehensive plan? Uh is it the
location the parcel suitable for the environment surroundings? Is it
complementaryary to the surroundings in the neighborhood and the improvements?
Uh did they demonstrate mitigation to any potential spillover effects? And
then of course it gives the city the authority to grant buffering designate
areas for uh open space limit set limitations on operations implementation
schedules meaning like over time they need to do this and consider adequacy of
public services. The next slide we'll get into the nuts and bolts. This is a
street view of the building facility. They'll be taking that front corner that
you see there. It's approximately I I believe it's a little over 4,500 square
f feet. We'll get to that specifically uh in a second. Uh Dilman Industrial
Drive is on the right hand side. Dilman Industrial Court is on the left hand
side. Dilman Industrial Court is just a short street uh that leads directly to a
building that's in the background there. The next slide,
this is the the uh just the tenant improvement plans that they're proposing
uh that kind of exist in the existing site ground. It is a 4500 ft² building I
believe. Um they are when you look at it in comparison to the overall building
which is about 3200 feet, 3200 32,000 ft². Uh they're a little bit of around
an eighth of the whole building uh in there. And you can see the corner area
that they'll be taking up their space. It's kind of proportion to the the size
on on the uh on the plan. The next slide will identify what are they doing. It's
a 4,566 square foot outpatient physical therapy
clinic, pediatric therapy clinic. Uh the clinic provides multiddisciplinary
therapy for physical therapy, occupational therapy, and speech therapy
at their site. Uh they currently operate in Creve Corore and they're relocating
to etc which is great. Uh the next slide uh kind of goes over the commission did
review it and they motioned to recommend to the council that the uh council
consider and approve authorization of the special permit. They use of course
the comprehensive plan, our community goals in their review. Uh we look at the
principles for economic development and our comprehensive update goals which is
environmental sustainability investment, crime prevention, native plantings and
strategic redevelopment. And you can see the check boxes as we go through in
there to complete those boxes. Of course, they are asking uh for some
additional landscaping along the Dealman Industrial Drive uh component, which is
the west side uh when you enter from the stop sign area uh to replace exterior
wallpack lights with those compatible with chapter 428, meaning that they're
cut off facing down uh and there. And then to limit the hours of operation
from 7:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. That's done in collaboration with the petitioner.
And the concern was because it's a pediatric facility just to make sure
that uh they're not interrupting or um throughout the evening or when we have
industrial traffic. On the next slide, mayor, if I can enter
a couple of items just for the record. Uh, our 2024 comprehensive plan update,
including the 5-year economic development plan, the Alvette municipal
code and zoning map, uh, the staff presentation and memorandum that was
presented to the planning and community design commission dated July 23rd, 2026,
including the petition and supporting plans and documents. Our public hearing
notice, this is a public hearing. We were required to post this 15 days prior
uh to tonight and that was posted in the the county in St. Louis County on August
10th, 2026. And you have a list of the properties that were notified. Uh we did
300 ft which is above and beyond the 185 called by code. Uh and then this
presentation before the city council. So mayor, I'd be glad to answer any
specific questions and then we do have representatives here I'd like to
introduce. >> What's what was their current
previously? what was who occupied? Uh it was an engineering firm I believe was
the last uh firm that was there >> and it they're going to be if you don't
mind going back to the uh overlay of the office they're going to be doing
outpatient um I guess so patients come in and are
seen there or is the expectation but because these are these cubes I guess
I'm just wondering where where that occurs
» kind of like shows the internal layout I think there's going to be some changes
and modifications I think that's what it looks like right now uh in there so they
haven't applied but but yes they do one-on-one therapies with uh individual
clients, pediatrics, of course. Uh in there, probably a question that can
better address than I could on the description.
» Um before we bring them up, other questions people have or
» I had the same question. >> Yeah, I don't have it.
» I had a question on the hours. So, pediatric means all the way through 18,
right? So, is the city limiting the hours or is that something that SSM is
choosing? >> We talked with SSM about what hours and
in there and that was within that range. which I think they they close at 5:30.
Something we can check with them again. >> Okay. Okay.
» And then I was just curious, I don't see a landscape plan here yet, but um want
to be clear about the area that this business would be working,
» like what part of the parcel they would be working on to improve the landscaping
and hopefully get some trees out there and native plants, something other than
just the turf. Um, and then also curious if there's going to be any signage on
that corner there or that little kind of >> Mhm.
» park that pokes out on the corner. >> Um, if there's any kind of signage that
they're >> We can go one slide back. Uh, Miss Yak,
uh, on the right hand side, you'll see Deman Industrial Drive. That's where
we're asking for some additional landscaping to be placed in there with
50% of that being native. The one thing along this corner both going north
[snorts] you know where I'm when you're looking at that right road you are going
north to south uh on the left you're going east to west uh on both portions
of the road and you can see some of the the the fiber indication there's fiber
and underground utilities all running through uh through there where I have
the most excess of rightway believe it or not is going to be on the western
side this used to be an easement and that's where I believe maybe that's why
there was no sidewalk or landscaping uh in place. When the city took over the
roads, we took over just a significant portion. A lot of times the parking
would have been further back, we would have more area for landscaping and and
things of that nature. So, we're looking here on the right hand side as you can
go uh north to south that they do some uh some additional landscaping uh in
their trees to be careful. probably preference would be more ornamental, but
nothing that's going to be deeprooted because they're going to there's
continue a matter of fact uh there was markings uh this morning again that
somebody's running some type of fiber optics or things uh of that nature. So,
it continuously gets torn out, but we'd like to get them more towards uh on the
western or the eastern part of that hump as you see in the the grading uh in
there to kind of hide some of the parking
in there. We didn't look at the north as they're kind of more facing towards
Olive uh in there. But again, I know I have a lot of uh
utility stuff that runs uh underneath and the sidewalk kind of extends more
along that area uh in there, but it could be discussion we can have with the
property owner. In terms of signage, no signage has been proposed.
Traditionally, the signage has been uh on the wall in there. I anticipate that
they will continue to do so. I know ImageNet, which is also located on that
building at the far uh left end uh which would be the eastern end of the building
does have a monument sign at that back corner. So if they do another one, they
have to place it uh towards the other apron uh in there. So I don't anticipate
anything towards the front. >> Okay. And my questions are twofold. One,
obviously to increase our environmental sustainability and to have plantings
along that um area as much as possible that not only are good for the
environment but can also provide shade um and reduce the heat on that um
asphalt parking lot. Um, and then the other piece with Oh, and safety as well
because you're going to have kids in that parking lot and obviously it's
worst case scenario thinking that somebody's jump going to jump the curb
and go over, you know, that's obviously worst case scenario, but any buffer
» uh that we can put in there is a good one. Um, and the same concern with
safety for signage. Um just so that when we've got parents who are looking for
the facility that it's clear and we don't have kind of that driving around
trying to find it because it is you know somewhat tucked down um
back behind there just so that it's it's clearly clearly seen and visible um for
your visitors for your patients and their families.
» It's something we can look at and discuss with it. And again, I just want
to be clear in terms of the the two on the first comp component of that, the
sustainability aspect as we're looking at some of the the plantings and the
native species, the concern would be on the trees being too too big in there
because of the >> uh because of the utilities that run on
that north side. Now, right here where the bench is set, there is more depth
and I think it's the parking stall length and we can talk with them if
that's an area that they could do more of the shade aspect of it as opposed to
the decorative part component of it. >> Yeah. And even if it was native bushes
or something that it would help and put that barrier
» is the you know the white and orange pole that you can see in the front of
the picture but then also on that right side there is that the marking for the
fiber optic cable >> one of the companies
» I would assume it doesn't represent all of the companies and then you can see
the little square in there represents somebody's vault
» to get in in that space. So is the idea being though that the general location
of those lines is approximately on the right side approximately the same as
what we can see in the in the foreground of the image
» at least for the ones that are marked. Yes.
» Okay. >> Yeah. And unfortunately they're usually
about 2 feet below below grade which is not much when you kind of think about
it. Okay.
» Why don't we bring the petitioner? you ask questions.
» How are you? >> Good. Hello.
» My name is Lara Masters. I'm a regional director for um SSM Health Cardinal
Glenn and Pediatric Therapy. Thank you for letting us be here today.
» Happy to answer any questions. >> And I'm Ann Hug. I'm the vice president
of operations for the company. >> Um yeah, I think the question we had is
just the layout. it patients will be seen in there and
» is it is it just kind of open like your counseling so it is cubes or is it
actually like private facility or how what what kind of things you know are
happening usually >> there'll be an open space like a gym for
more like physical therapy but we we'll probably have I mean I would say seven
or eight individual treatment rooms that are more where speech therapists would
work with individual patient >> so this is not necessarily what the
layout >> this is this is what it looks like now
we to do something different with it. Um, so where there'd be, you know,
individual treatment rooms, again, they're not big, but they're
» Yeah, and there Yep.
» The treatment rooms will be around the perimeter and the gym space would be in
the middle. >> Okay. For actual PT itself and things
like that. >> Yep.
» Okay. >> Will it be possible to have uh the
drawing of how how you envision this? it. I think it's just very helpful for
us to actually have the drawing in front of us as opposed to each of our brains
kind of thinking what it might look like.
» I have I have we have a clinic that's very similar in size in Ronnie's Plaza
and I have that drawing that I can share with you that we will use that that kind
of design for this space. So I can I would be would love to share that with
you. bring that for the second reading or for Carla M the Trey House has
probably forward it to us >> and this is eventually going to go to
planning and zoning once if this is approved and then they'll have the full
sets of drawings and landscape plans and things like that. Is that correct?
» No. >> No.
» Oh yeah. I want to see it now. >> No, it would be more regarding the use
and the the operations of the use. The the improvements would be internal uh in
there. So that generally that would go back to the commission for for review.
Uh there was a code and the the number of exits and the use is going to dictate
what how that space >> how people geointer currently is not
necessarily our >> in terms of landscaping. Yes, the
commissioner was comfortable with it administratively you know that as long
as they submit some type of landscaping uh in there and then set the condition
of the 50% native. >> Yes.
» Uh in there gives us the guidance of what they're looking for. Okay, I
understand. >> And that just be helpful if you send an
example just so we can, you know, visualize it. Appreciate it.
» Like before the second, you' like >> forward it to Mr. Trey, he can forward
it to us and then we'll have it before the second and just helps us visual.
Again, it's your internal not ours. But, uh, just that's where I was struggling.
I'm like, I don't understand. >> What is it? You know,
» hey, I'm like, it's your your your business,
» you know. >> Yeah. Thank you. But I do think having
that information, you know, I know you you have presented this to the PCDC a
few months ago. Um, and so like the the understanding that for a landscaping
plan has been kind of out there for a little bit. So it would be nice to see
some movement towards getting a clearer sense of what that is as well as what
your layout internally is before the second reading.
» Okay. >> So that we're really clear on what what
we're approving. Um, >> Sure. And I'm I'm thrilled to like my
hesitancy is not anything about this business or anything. I'm I think it's a
good use. I think it's >> um great uh to have this here and all of
it. And I'd like to have a clear sense of what we're approving before we
approve it. >> Sure.
» All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
» Happy to be here. Thank you. >> Did you have
» Yeah, I had just one comment. U I'm Drew Clary with Intel. I work with the
landlord on this building. I just had a a quick comment question on the the
conditions of the landscaping. Um, so Carlos mentioned there's some fiber
optic optic cables that run on the inside or just on the outside of the
sidewalk. Um, there's there's a very similar one just on the other side. You
can't see it, but it's right there in front of a manhole. Um, would it be
beneficial at all if we did more landscaping right where that park bench
is instead of along the the western
barrier? My view is more landscaping anywhere is
good. Like so as many native or this council is generally I won't speak for
everyone but it's generally in favor of native plants and beautifying and just
adding sustainability. So um there's many many ways to attack that. So I
think um yeah, we have to be sensitive to the cabling and not get in the way of
utilities and trees and things like that. So we're not in any way saying,
"Oh, no, just put trees everywhere." It's what are the best use of native
plants sustainability that are aesthetically looking that are good
maintenance, you know, and see and and I think it's just seeing what would look
like. >> Yeah. So we and just a couple couple
thoughts on what we were planning on doing to this building. So it's it's
been under a new owner since about October. Um, the building, I don't know
if you've driven by it frequently, but it looks very tired on the outside. So,
the signage is all mismatched. Festive is is on that corner. Their signs about
this big, literally. Um, and so we're trying to make the signage consistent.
We trying to make it prettier, channel cut lettering if available. Um, repaint
the exterior of the building. We were welcoming the light improvements. Um, we
were planning on doing that anyway. Uh, and so I was trying to get to an
understanding of is it more beautifification or is it more safety
barrier now that you have a better understanding of their hours of
operation or is it a little bit of both? Because I could probably do more
landscaping near the park bench, more in front of
the building. I guess what I'm getting at is I want to create the barrier. I
want it to be pretty. I don't I I would love to not do too much because we're
going to make the building look a lot nicer and I would hate for it to be
obuscated >> if we have hedges grow too tall. But
I'll you know >> that's nice to have not
» at least from my perspective with the landscaping you know it's it's
addressing sustainability and aesthetic purposes. Okay.
» Um but with the sustainability piece you know trees provide benefits a multitude
of benefits. storm water control, cooling, um biodiversity,
uh and aesthetics. Yeah. Um as well. So, and trees give you the biggest bang for
your buck over time. >> Mhm.
» Low low maintenance generally too. >> That is and it it is a triple net
building and so increasing the maintenance cost does get passed back to
the tenants and >> Yeah.
» So, trying to find that happy medium. >> I Yeah. And I I think again this is not
a dictative. It's just a anywhere we can, especially when we're approving new
things, we're saying let's continue sustainability goals. I'm less concerned
about the safety. It's always a nice thing, but at least there is also a
ridge up, which is nice. It's a very large area versus just a curb.
» Um, but yeah, I think we just like to see us continuing to grow and get more
sustainable. So, but to your point, >> you don't want to block the signage
you're going to put up either. It's a balance.
» Yeah. Okay. I think we're on the same page. we'll get you something has a
really good sense of I think of >> what we're
» we've had these conversations in multiple forms. So, um I think he's
probably well equipped to advise on that.
» He has been you guys have always been very helpful too. So,
» what what color are you going to paint the building?
» That's a good question. Um >> and are you going to paint? It looks
like there's masonry. >> No, right now our our thought was just
the facade. Um but it's it's a it's barely a thought. Are you are you
familiar with what they did with the cone elevator building just a little bit
further down? >> No.
» It's probably it's right next to Stone Fabricators and PK Construction, but if
you look at the before and after of what they did, they painted it white and blue
accents. It looks incredible. So, it's it's something that would be tasteful
and nice and and not obnoxious, but if if you go go look at it sometime this
week, I mean, it's it's peeling. It's just there's a light that's it just
needs to be needs to be redone. So, >> if you can kind of describe what that's
going to be, you know, what color, what what what you guys decide before the
next reading, that would be great, too. >> Yeah, we'll try and um put something
together like that along with a landscaping plan.
» I could be wrong. These they're not necessarily tied together, right?
Because we're talking you're talking about the entire building versus just
this. So, good point. >> Yeah, it wasn't a requirement on the
PNC. >> I don't want to stop this or makes
sense. >> Let's do both. Yeah,
» I don't I don't want to encumber that or but I just wanted to let you know of our
plans anyway. >> Appreciate it. It's good to know. I
appreciate the unification. So, >> of course.
» Cool. All right. >> Thank you.
» Thank you. Other public comments? >> No. All right. Anyone online?
Anything else from the council? >> No.
» All right. We will go ahead and close the public hearing then and then there
will be a second reading of this bill on September 8th. Thank you very much for
coming. Appreciate it. >> Thank you.
» All right. Moving on to item 14. Bill 3071. Ask I'm going to ask for the title
to be read. Bill 3071, an ordinance authorizing a
special permit use for New Blueprint Partners LLC, owners of the property
grounds addressed as 1220 North Price Road to permit AIM field hockey to
operate a 6,614 square foot enclosed recreational use
within the tenants space addressed as 1220 North Price Road, Sweet 4. First
reading and public hearing. >> All right, I will go ahead and open the
public hearing as well and another great presentation.
» Good evening, mayor. And just for the record, my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm the
director of planning and community development for the city of Alvette. And
tonight here I'm uh to discuss bill 3071 which is a special permit request for an
enclosed recreational use at 1220 North Price Road uh suite number four uh in
that building. That is the same building where we have Padel and Pickle uh on on
the northern end and underneath Pedell and Pickle is actually uh u
beauty uh auto beauty specialists. I'm sorry I can think of the name. And then
right in the middle you have uh uh door.com
uh that that's located uh that kind of wraps. And then this is a little corner
piece that I'll show you more specifically in a second. So if you go
to the next slide, it is an old uh an older building that was built uh I
believe in the the 1960s. I didn't put the date uh in there, but it's a 6acre
lot with 134,000 uh square foot uh was considered of
office manufacturing, warehousing, and distilling uh that took place at one
time. Now we have uh recreational use with Pedel and Pickle uh storage with
auto beauty specialists and then some distribution and offices with locked uh
with uh lock.com or door.com uh on the site. the there's
one more piece uh of the building that is up for lease uh and it's roughly
about 6,700 square ft² and that's where you see the orange door there at the
lower right hand corner uh is where they're looking to take a a piece of
that. It's very oddly configured because over time as that property was improved
they they did it in phases and pieces uh in there and of course it was the old
Southern Comfort Distillery uh that was operating on that site. property grounds
are zone LI light industrial district and enclosed recreational uses and
outdoor recreational uses are permitted uses in the LI district but subject to a
special permit meaning they're not industrial but they can be compatible
with a lot of the industrial uses that we have there and of course I noted we
have Pedel and Pickle on the site uh just to the left of it you had the
bridge uh facility um in there and then we used to have the old town in tennis
just down the block uh not too far from where SSM was looking at the next slide
We have a procedure for special permit requests. It's a recommend review and
recommendation by the council by the commission. Uh they forward that to the
council which holds a public hearing and then has a action via an ordinance
special permit process. We have a procedure that's outlined within our
ordinance that looks about looks at the impact to it to limitations. Uh but
always, you know, trying to see how we can further our comprehensive plan uh
goals and updates. And I'm sorry about the lower left hand that should have
been LI district uh in there on that side. The next slide will kind of talk
about general conditions of a special permit. So what do we do is that we make
sure it's listed in the district that it first to go a comprehensive plan that
the location is suitable to the environment and surroundings. Sometimes
it could be doing topography some natural features is is the property flat
is it hilly or or things of nature. Uh are the improvements complimentary to
the neighboring uses? Did they demonstrate that they're mitigating any
spillover effects that would adversely impact the addition properties? And then
of course the city has the authority to require whether buffering aesthetic
enhancements, designate areas for open space, set limitations on operations,
implement a schedule and that is you know requiring things to happen over a
certain amount of time and consider adequacy of public services such as fire
uh medical police type of services. The next slide we'll get into the nuts and
bolts. This is a corner of the building. Again, this is 134,000 ft building. It's
a big building. Um, they're taking this uh kind of uh front view here where the
orange door is, but not the whole thing. It's just the on the left hand side, the
the first two uh components where you see the vertical uh things right there
and then it kind of L-shapes and goes back. So, you actually enter the
building uh from from that gap between where the cursor is and to the far left
uh in there. There's a little cove that's a little bit further back. Thank
you, Miss Yaki. Uh in there where the enter entrance is. And I'll show you a
little bit more when we get into the aerial view. The next slide will kind of
show how that is set up. And again, uh sorry, I'm using white on the white
background. Uh, but you can see this L-shaped layout kind of laid out onto
the 134,000 foot building. You can see that cove area in that cove area on the
lefth hand side is the layout. There's a 66
uh 6,60 ft uh of the building footprint for uh the Ames indoor uh field hockey
projects facility. Who is your your petitioner? The next slide.
What is being proposed? The operations are it's a 6,600 foot women's indoor
field hockey practice facility. In this facility, the operations will include
training, one-on-one coaching, office operations, and then video productions
that they use for uh uh for promoting purposes for the uh for the individual
athletes uh for schools and and things of that nature. Uh next slide. Uh as we
go through the PCDC, they went and they reviewed it. Again they have a process
to review it in accordance with uh our ordinance in special permit uses and
then also our comprehensive plan. Uh when you look at economic development
and investment, it also has its own specific goals about environmental
sustainability, investment, crime prevention, uh native plantings and
strategic redevelopment. So in their review, the commission uh motioned that
the council consider authorizing the special permit through this ordinance.
However, they also laid out the following conditions. One is to limit
the hours of operations from 7:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. How do we get there? Again,
that was a discussion with the petitioner of what their operating hours
would be. Uh, and there uh to replace the exterior wallpack lights with uh
those that are cut off and facing down compatible with chapter 428 to do a tree
health assessment and replacement plan with 50% of those being native. There
was several trees along the perimeter of the the the site as itself. you know,
different differentiating it from the petitioner here. Uh, and there and some
of them had been cut down and some of them uh seemed like they they were not
as healthy. And then to replace some of the deteriorated fencing sections uh
that were on the uh south side of the property uh uh in there the next slide,
mayor, if I can just enter a couple of items into the record. Uh, one is our
2024 comprehensive plan update, including our 5-year economic
development plan, the Olivette municipal code and zoning map, the staff
presentation and memorandum presented to the planning and community design
commission dated July 23rd, 2026, including the petition and supporting
plans and documents. The public hearing notice, of course, this is a public
hearing. We're required to post this in the county and St. Louis County. It was
published on August 10th, 2026. And then you have a list of the properties that
were identified or notified uh regarding that twice. Uh they get a postcard
before it goes to the commission and then they also get a public hearing
notice uh prior to our meeting here at council and then the presentation before
council dated August 25th, 2026. I do have representatives here in attendance,
but I'd like be glad to answer uh specific questions about the building
and the operations. >> I have questions mostly for the
petitioner. So before we bring them up, anyone have any questions for Mr. Tjo.
» Yeah. So I uh my daughter actually took lessons at Padel and Pickle. So I got to
see the parking lot when they're when it's gets a little bit busier.
» It does it just want to make sure that there are enough spots for all the
tenants if this goes through. Especially if you know there's a team or a couple
of teams practicing, everyone drives in their own cars.
» End up with an extra with an extra 30 cars. [snorts]
» Would that be enough space? And if not, where would the overflow be?
» Well, good question. Uh if you we can go back to the aerial. I think it's about
uh three on on this site. Well, one
uh on this site. So you can see um there's that center parking uh in in
that area primarily used by by lock uh door.com, excuse me. And their pedal and
pickle uses part of that and then they uh expanded their have the uh the
parking facility there on the lower left corner uh in there. and you see that
that aisle in there. Uh they've always wanted to expand in that green space,
but then that would trigger MSD review and and storm water. So, there's always
that caveat that we have available there. But then there's some additional
parking on the far right end of the building uh in there. It's kind of
separate and independent, but they also operate this. Yes.
» To the f Okay, >> that that area where the cursor is at.
» Would would that be another entrance or would people have to walk around?
» They would have to walk around. They're they're not in the way the in the
original building everything was all within within [snorts] reach. Now that
things have been separated, yes, the parking is all kind of uh disassociated
with the with the spaces. >> But it's always a good question. I mean,
I always hear, you know, that's a lot of parking. You know, do do they really
need all that surface area? And you try to balance that. Do they really have
enough parking uh in there? You know, from a planning perspective, there are
in our code, there are some some minimums. We go by minimums uh in there
that they have to have a minimum amount based on the type of activity that takes
place. For recreational uses, it's based on square footage. There's a simple
calculation that we use to calculate that. For the office, it's based on on a
similar weight. Uh but then they're in a match. And then our code allows us to
provide some overlap. So if this use needs this much parking, this use need
needs this much parking, this use needs this much parking, you can have some
overlap that that some may come in at night, some may come in during the day
um in there. So it allows for that process in there to help try to balance
it uh in there. But again, it's, you know, from a professional view, it's
like I I think if if people are unhappy with
the parking, they're going to go somewhere else to find a better facility
that can accommodate them. And it impacts the user in there. We want to
keep these uses viable. We want to keep our residents and and and the region
coming to our our our location uh in there, but this is a fine balance as
opposed to having over parking. We had the conversation when uh Murthy Health
Systems was looking at the pharmacy and we were asking can we get rid of parking
spaces uh back there and it's tough >> for this area specifically. I just want
to make sure people are not parking along the road or something like that.
So, but that sounds plenty sufficient if we have that lot in the back.
» But a good question. I mean it's it's one of the things we struggle with and
finding that right mix, right balance. Mhm.
» Um, related to parking, I'm interested in kind of hearing your perspective on
the traffic flow on this lot. Just recognizing that it has kind of an
unusual setup with the two entrances. Um, you
know, it's not a cir circle drive, but you know, kind of coming in from both
sides. And then the extended part that I'm assuming when this was more serving
an industrial purpose um was set up for truck loading and unloading. Um and I
guess I'm just I'm curious in this parcel recognizing how the uses have
shifted um pretty significantly. Um, other than Door, perhaps Door still uses
the larger trucks for uh deliveries and loading and unloading. I'm not sure. I'd
be curious to know um if this current traffic configuration
is the best um
use of that space um and or the safest use recognizing
that you know for field hockey you'll have parents driving but you my guess
[clears throat] is potentially some of the clients will be uh older
kids young adults who are driving themselves and aren't necessarily known
for being the best drivers. Um, and trying to trying to make that that
particular area work in a way that um it seems a little the setup as it is now
is a little odd for the uses that are being
» No, it's a very good question. >> Those buildings
» in there a good question uh just on the timing on on here. So, and and this is
this is why it's a special permit. I mean, we have seen our industrial parks.
There's not much industrial going on in those parks uh anymore. Uh we have seen
the the the the road and all that. This used to be all private. So, those dock
doors all worked uh in there because they were not under our jurisdiction uh
and in place. Now, we've taken up those spaces in there. And these buildings
still are industrial buildings trying to be retrofitted for uses that that were
or you know that that were not designed or or built. And that's why we go
through these processes. You know, this is the third time that I've been here
just for this building. You know, we did that for Paddle and Pickle. We did it
for uh Auto Beauty to expand underneath uh in there and then now we're doing it
for the Ames indoor hockey uh in there. You know, I couldn't give you a straight
answer of is this, you know, professionally, is this the ideal
parking configuration? No. No, it's not. This is what what I have to work with
and what how it's put in place. uh things that would I would would be ideal
for that parking is to make it more uniform and and uh
you know uh polygono or or so but then it triggers things because then you get
rid of that green space and then MSD gets involved in all that and then the
cost of trying to retrofit these buildings becomes more difficult um uh
in there. I think it's something we have to kind of look over time uh in there.
We I'm not aware that that there's been any incidents uh in the spaces, but we
only have three of the four tenants in in there right now. Uh with uh auto
beauty, that's solely storage and those are moved from just kind of back and
forth uh with them. Pedal and Pickle, you know, I know they have their their
their their operation their times kind of fluctuate over time and it's just
going to be kind of looking at how that mixture works between the two. The only
constant is Door.com. We know who's there during during the regular hours
and then when when they leave uh in there, it could be something that we
could look at, you know, how are the hours of operating working with with
that over time. uh or you know talk about how do we get more connectivity uh
with some of the other spots in there depends on when I go out there you know
it's full and you can see uh to the left on on the on the slide you know all that
parking right there is bridge uh in there and it was like when we were going
through that we didn't anticipate you know that volume um in that place but
we've been fortunate that the mix of that building has been you know kind of
balances pretty well you don't go there during the bridge time, you're going to
get pretty good parking. If it's during bridge time, yeah, you're you're you're
kind of moving around trying to find a space in there, but then they have a
similar pattern where the parking wraps around the building and then there's a
whole another field on the north side uh of it. So, yeah, I think there's enough
spots. It certainly does meet our code. Is it configured perfectly? No, it is.
It it isn't. But I think we have to see how we, you know, how these buildings
kind of transition and how this parking kind of works over time.
» What the current hours for paddle and pickle? Do you happen to know?
» Not off hand. Uh I believe they do have an early start like 6:00 a.m.
» And paddle pickles where on here with the curses are
» Okay. So as you look Yeah, right there. >> Okay. Thank you.
» And they do actually use a parking lot. That's where that blue truck, blue roof
» right in that area. >> Yeah. So that ends up being old parking
too. Like >> an old old picture then.
» It's I don't know that it's marked right now, but people just park there in a row
and it's pretty organized. >> Oh, okay.
» I've seen it many times. >> How crowded is it when you're if you've
been there? >> I think I mean from what I've seen, they
only take up that wider part of the parking. They don't even end up much on
the pavement. So,
» okay. >> So, it sounds like it there should be
room. >> Yeah. I mean, if we have that other
parking lot on the far right, I mean, that's overflow if needed. Yeah. It's I
imagine it's also by hour times things make difference
» because I love this reuse. >> Yeah. It's exciting
» to these types of >> and it draws people. They want to get
dinner afterwards. They want to do things like that. It's great
» and it's unique to the community, right? >> It's it's a great
bring up the petitioner. So I have just random questions. I'm curious more
curiosity questions. So like
» evening >> evening. Thank you guys so much for your
time with this and consideration. I'm Lauren Kornweight, the founder and
director of Aimfield Hockey. I've been at this for 20 years and have a vision
for for the next step. So >> I'm Chris Paul now and I'm a
representative for Lauren and the real estate.
» Great. Um I was curious two things. hours only because again I feel like it
might be different thinking about my son's soccer and the private things like
they easily do things till 10 o'clock at night and so it's you're comfortable
with the hours because it is light industrial so we have a little bit of
give so >> I am comfortable with the hours a lot of
um the you know during the day is going to be just office use for we just have
four of us in there so it's not like a huge you know for parking or whatever um
and then I am comfortable with the hours it's going to be a lot of small group
and private training and not like loads of teams coming in that space.
» Okay, >> that helps. I'm also I guess I'm
surprised too like your choice field hockey, but you guys don't ever open it
up to anything else like football or other, you know, trainings. You just it
only dedicates to field. >> I mean, this is again we've been doing
this 20 years and we just focused on field hockey, but
» it's a win. Okay, >> great.
» How many uh players are training at any one time? Oh, thank you.
» We'll we'll be looking at doing small group. Well, some will be literally
private one-on-one, but we'll be looking at doing like 8 to 12 kids um training.
» Yeah, that's right. >> So, this is kind of a new concept, so
it's a little bit unproved. Lawrence kind of gone out on a limb here because
all these indoor practice facility, anyone who uses turf, they're all
fighting over each other for Veta in the different turf
» areas. So, Lauren's still going to utilize those spaces. This will be a
complimentary facility for her where she can do smaller group training
one-on-one. She does a lot of recruitment videos for college and
things like that. So, it'll have like a video production room.
» Um, so it's not totally unknown. I think she knows what she's gone through a
heavy business plan. So, I think it's going to be a great facility. And
honestly, the um the previous meeting we went to, they were like, "We think
you're going to outgrow this facility and need to go get a bigger facility."
So, it's going to it's a new concept in the indoor space. There's no one else
doing it. We're excited about it. We're happy to be in Alvette. This is a great
location. The property is well lit and it's a safe neighborhood. At night, the
all the other businesses are in the afternoons, they'll be winding down on
their business where she'll be picking up from when kids get out of school
until the evening hours. So I think it's complimentary and then a lot of the
parents when they drop their kids off they can go support the other businesses
in the community or go over to pet pedal and pickle and make reservations and so
maybe that helps from the parking standoint as well.
» Could I address just your question earlier also um we serve like
three-year-olds to 18y olds so 90% of our clients are are parent drivers. Um,
we do have some, you know, the 16, 17, 18 year olds and I do understand your
question with that, but it's that's going to be a small percentage.
» I do imagine you will do quite well because I can imagine a lot of people
that's why I asked about other sports because the recruitment as my son's
going through that kind of thing right now. It's um a space where you could do
that privately and get that and have video. I question do you plan maybe you
don't because the size isn't like food. You're not selling food. We're not No,
we don't have like a grillin bar or anything like that. think like a veta or
something like that. Okay. >> You don't want any part of that.
» I don't want to venture into that. >> I understand. I just wanted to check.
So, >> all right.
» Yeah. I think it's a very exciting use. I love to see the building repurposed um
and and especially providing something that's unique um and sounds like a
really great market to address. Um, and yeah, my my concerns really are more
about the building and the kind of weird driving situation that exists. I don't
have any concerns about the business other than the potential that you will
be more successful and uh outgrow this space too quickly.
So, we are in a little bit of a So, when we negotiated this deal on the building,
the there was a new buyer coming in for the building, which is the Bluepoint or
whatever LLC that's on the agenda for this evening. It is kind of an emergency
situation. and Lauren got busy in the spring and we burned some time and then
we realized when we went to permits that we figured pedal and pickle and it
wasn't talked about with the previous lawn lords on the use that we didn't fit
within the light industrial without a special use permit. So now we're in a
situation where construction's been delayed. So really what we're trying to
achieve is to get this thing off center because it's she's a small business and
she's got time burning on at least right now and we're confident we can get
through this with you guys and make the compromises needed to make sure everyone
in the city is happy with the use. But it's kind of like we need I think what
Carlos suggested is that we need to have it as an emergency so we can get a first
and second reading. So whatever accommodations
Yeah. So we we kind of would like to see if we can move this forward this evening
if you guys would be open to that. >> Don't know from policy how that works in
terms of because because we have to post agendas
» start the review of the uh the permit plans with them uh and then that's
something we can offer >> to move I'm sorry
» to kind of facilitate and start the the permit review the the building permit
plans before the council authorizes. So, it's a risk we take, but it's something.
» Yeah. And I think if it sounds like they're willing to work, so I think that
makes sense to start early. We can't authorize until the second reading, but
I think that gets you forward versus waiting to the second reading then to do
that, right? So, it keeps us on track, if that makes sense. So,
» what is the policy? Can we do a first and second reading on one day?
» I don't know how we can do that. >> Technically, you can. Um, it was not
advertised on the agenda that you were going to vote on it this evening. So, um
that would have been useful, but uh technically you could you need to vote
as a council. Someone needs to make a motion to hold the second reading this
evening and then you need to vote on that motion and then you would be um you
could then vote um on the
» vote. Correct.
And I guess though, Carlos, does it speed us up that much? Because the
plans, how long is it going to take you guys to work through that?
» Takes about right now we're about 15 days out for review comments.
» Okay. So, if you start working with them immediately, it's going to be 15 15 days
anyway. And so, to me, >> it's going to be two weeks before we
vote on this again, right? >> And so, I I don't think it's going to
change anything anyway. And I'd rather if we didn't need to um if it was going
to dash but so I think starting as soon as we can on just review to help them
out would be great if >> it's something we can do without you
with or without the >> okay before the only concern is in it
was my understanding in the past it it sets a precedent and then they're always
asking us the staff you know about >> yeah I think I think it's understood and
so we need to be careful on that and not and not uh so recognizing that there's a
need to burn and we really excited about the reuse of the building so you know
open to that. But, uh, it's a good call out. Um, signage. Oh, sorry.
» I would be comfortable if we entertained a second rating tonight. Does how does
anybody else feel? >> I mean, if it if it's going to
if it's going to expedite helping them move forward faster, I'm okay with it.
But if it's not going to make any difference, stick to what we're doing
now. >> Yeah, that's generally I mean, I I
wouldn't be totally objecting to it except it does set precedent for us,
too. Um, and it doesn't sound like it's going to accelerate at this point in the
period. >> And I say leave everything the way it
is, but it might help Carlos so he doesn't get
» Well, it's one of these where one way or the other we're establishing a tricky
precedent. >> Yeah. Um, I I feel more comfortable with
Carlos working with the petitioner on the building permit side of things than
making a decision in the middle of a council meeting to adjust our processes.
Um, that we we were not prepped for ahead of time to do something like that.
And I think adjusting something like that in in a council meeting at itself,
I I don't feel comfortable with that. Yeah, I kind of need to I guess Carlos
the question for you is or Mr. is it any concerns from you moving forward on your
side sooner than later? >> No, I mean they started off with permit
plans. So I think they're they're they should have the contractor is here uh in
» I don't want to put you guys in a bind either if that's something that you guys
can't staff timing or anything like that either. So that would
» correct but I think we can coordinate and get that that okay you know that
first round going >> if you guys are good we'll have move
forward that way. I think it'll end about the same time either way and I I
would agree with Chairman Bam on that. >> So, realistically, when would the second
reading be? >> ETH.
» ETH. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> And signage for the building. I don't
know if we covered that. I apologize. >> I would say on the signage, Lauren and I
have talked about it. It would go if you go forward a couple, you can see the
orange door.
» Oh, wrong way. We could put a sign there to
» Yeah, you could put a big arrow. >> So I think in Lauren I it as long as it
hasn't changed. Her plan was to put AIM above that loading door
um on that orange panel right there. >> But the loading door is not you're not
using that door as an entrance. >> No.
» Okay. >> And just to so you guys understand, this
space only accounts for about 2% of the entire building. And um the the way this
space lays out, the entry will be on the other side of that orange door, but
directly on the other side of the space. So that'll be the main entry point.
You're not going to be entering from the price side. But the way it's laid out
and the previous owner, they were basically talking about mothballing that
space because it's laid out so inefficiently for really any other use
than recreational or special use. So just because it's hard to get into stuff
on the right side of this drawing which used to be a rail loaded is really tired
space that you know frankly Lauren's spending a lot of money that she's
investing into the space herself rather than landlord and the other space that
Lord loading dock comes up and it makes a 90 degree turn. So I mean this is
really it sat for a long time where they almost said let's just forget about
leasing it and move on. So, all reason exciting to reuse it.
» Yeah. >> Wish you the best of luck. So,
» we'll move forward then. Um, any other questions from council?
» Uh, does anyone in the public have questions to ask?
» I just had one quick one. >> Come on up.
» So, I did represent the landlord when we signed this lease. Um,
is there is there not have is there not more of a or less of a pre precedent to
have a second reading at the council meeting, first reading and second
reading, and to do the drawings early? >> Do you guys normally have you never done
the second reading? >> It's not that we've never done it. My my
concern is that everything we do generally we need to give the notice to
the public so they expect what what we're voting on, what we're talking
about, which is why we can't bring up random topics and discuss them and just
forget at a given time. Um, and so it sets that precedent that we could do
something and then people get upset that like you did something without letting
us know. I would have come and spoken. I would have objected. I would have
brought something up. >> Whereas this, while we usually staff
would not usually work with you until it's put forward,
» we recognized this is going to go forward. So staff working with you now,
I think puts us in the exact same spot at the end of the day. So
» Gotcha. >> Yeah.
» Yeah. When we when we signed the lease, we figured um and I actually remembered
it at the end, but when we did the paddle and pickle deal, I thought we had
a special use permit athletic for the whole building and it was specific to
their use. So, >> I want them to get going as soon as
possible. >> Me, too. Trust me. So, I I think this
will end up that's why our question of if it's going to be 15 days, if it's
going to take that long anyway, we'll approve it in 14 days. Hopefully, it's
done. We're at the same spot. If that was not the case, I'd be much more
willing to entertain at this point. So, >> well, I appreciate your time. No, thank
you. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. Anyone online?
» You know, the only drawback is that I've been frequenting Paris Baguette ever
since discovering this place. So, >> yeah. Good with the bad, right? You
know, so >> thank you.
» Thank you. All right. Anyone online? Questions, comments? All right. I will
close the public hearing. All right. And then we'll have it the
second reading on the 8th. Thank you very much.
» Thank you. >> Thank you.
» Okay. Move on to item 16. Uh, surface transportation we will be
blocked. I will have you read it. How about that?
» Or do I? >> Yes, sir.
» Did I miss Oh, I passed bill. I apologize. Just kidding. Item 15, Bill
3072. If we can have the title right, please.
» Bill 3072, an ordinance to amend section 405.460, 460 condominiums, plats, and
additional requirements being part of the subdivision code of the city of
Alvette. Chapter 405, subdivision regulations of title 4, land use of the
Alvet municipal code to allow for both residential and non-residential
condominium plats and additional requirements. First reading and public
hearing. >> All right, we'll open the public hearing
on bill 3072 and presentation, please. >> Uh, chairman, just for the record, my
name is Cardinal Stro. I am the director of planning and community development
with the city of Alvette. Uh and this is a tax amendment. So unlike uh having the
site plan and illustrations all the pretty pictures uh and there we're
looking to amend our subdivision code specifically the section referring to
condominiums plats and additional requirements. The next slide will show
the the specific section and the changes in that is to remove the references to
multif family or anything residential. Uh what this does it gets us more
consistent with the condominium act. You see there reference of chapter 448 the
revised statutes of Missouri. They kind of say that we we really can't hold a uh
a distinction in terms of condominiums whether they're residential or
non-residential that they can be applied to buildings a building replace or the
sale of the building uh and they're I'm hoping I address that correctly with and
there and we're just getting our code more consistent with the state.
» This is what most other cities in >> that is correct.
» Correct. Okay. >> Does that also apply to like industrial
or office space as well? Yeah. >> Good. I'm surprised the word condominium
doesn't mean living dorms doile, but you learn something new every day.
» Is there any uh with the word subdivision in there, does that does
that word imply one thing or another? I'm not sure what a you know, a
condominium as a building versus a condominium subdivision.
» Condominium is a form of subdivision. And so I think when you go through
chapter 405 and go through the the definition sections that's where that
that term subdivision is refer representing both a process and then a
product of that process too. I think that's what where the that you're trying
to address >> feels similar the word dwelling but you
again I don't care I trust if this is what this
» the code's going towards and it gets us clear of that that makes sense.
» All right questions from the council. Anyone in the public online would like
to speak to this? >> I think there are some items that record
through our 2024 comprehensive plan update, the municipal code and zoning
map uh the staff presentation and memorandum to the plan commission dated
July 23rd, 2026. In that presentation and and that is part of your link uh in
your staff memo, uh there are references to what other communities had uh in
there, what they they were all doing, all of them being consistent. uh this
public hearing notice because this is a public hearing and it was posted in the
county in St. Louis County on August 10th, 2026. And then we did not have a
list of addresses, so I'm sorry I didn't take that off uh there and then this
presentation before the commission.
Any other questions from council? >> All right. Anyone online?
» Yep. We will close the public hearing and the second reading will be on
September 8th. Thank you, mayor. >> Thank you.
» All right, moving on to item 16, surface
transportation block grant agreement with Missouri Highways and
Transportation Commission for the North Price Phase One Grant Project.
» Good evening, Mayor.
» Good evening, mayor and council members. Again, Bruce McGregor, public works
director. Um back in January uh work session, we discussed our second uh
application for a surface transportation suballocated grant for North Price Road
section one or phase one old bottom road to uh Delmare. It's a little over 2,100
linear feet. We had applied the previous year and and didn't score high enough.
So we made some strategic amendments to our application and uh basically
offloaded some of the uh engineering work out of the grant as the city
responsibility to try to meet a threshold to score more points which is
one of the criteria used when the uh committee is reviewing the uh the grant
applications. Uh so we found out a little bit earlier by looking at the
agendas for the uh commission at East West Gateway that we were on the
recommended list and then a couple weeks ago we got a formal notice from uh MDOT
from the local projects uh administrator that we were on the list for the uh
meeting this week for award approval and that they recommended uh to hit the
ground running that we present our uh the agreement to council for a
pre-authorization uh to uh to uh execute the agreement
should the uh board uh go ahead and do the expected uh you know decision this
week. Uh be glad to answer any questions about the project, the timing, um next
steps, what we've already completed, anything like that.
» Excited about it. >> Yeah.
» Yeah. >> Good snooping.
» Yeah. And just FYI as well, uh, since Amron had been so busy there, we've
received notice for them that they've done all of the energizing work on the
circuits, uh, they may be coming back into town over the next few months,
removing some obsolete cable uh, from the runs, but everything is in service
uh, for that uh, load balancing or load relief project uh, for the distribution
in University City and Leoo uh, just since it's in that same area that that
project is done. Uh there >> so if we were to get final approval for
this, I think this is question in everyone's mind. When would this project
be realistically done? >> Well, so that's a a very fair question.
What we have done uh last year uh we had committed to doing the survey. Uh this
year what we had began we began in last budget year which is in the spring was
the design work. Uh our intent is to have our what what they call an RE
request for environmental review. So that is a uh a submitt that goes to
Jefferson City to basically clear any environmental impacts we have and that
might be more than just like hazardous materials but like native people or some
other social economic uh impacts uh along with uh ecology as well. You know
are we displacing any bats? The biggest unknown we have is rightaway
acquisition. So, we have a 40-way rightway width. We want to maximize our
existing condition of two sidewalks, right? One on either side. Uh we want to
have a safe roadway for motorists and for cyclists. And we still want to have
that appearance that's, you know, I think feels softer to us, which is a
tree lawn. So to accomplish all that and relocate utilities and and other things,
we need at minimum a temporary construction easement for grading uh
from probably all of the uh property owners along the alignment. Okay. So um
once we start through this process and get the rear submitted, we'll be
planning public meetings. Um we'll be getting the word out, maybe going
doortodoor. Um, every time I walk around with a vest with the engineer and we're
looking at conditions, you know, interested parties come out. So many
folks are quite excited about it. But, you know, once you start talking about
changing, you know, the side of your house, people, you know, can start to
question things. So, um, we always hope that we don't get to condemnation. We've
done it before. And on the old bottom project, I think we submitted the final
court documents 2 or 3 days before our grant expired uh which was uh almost $2
million for that project. So um we hope we never get there again uh on there. So
that's our biggest announcement. So So the long story short, we would hope to
be doing construction for the schedule in 3 years. Um I'm hoping we can be
ahead of that. Um, I'm optimistic that our residents will be enthusiastic.
We'll have a nice design, um, and we'll be able to start the negotiation sooner
in the involvement and, you know, get everybody signed off on. So any type of
um federal grant or grant run through MODOT requires the city to do a lot more
um work and there are a lot more steps that need to be taken than if we were
just doing a regular street project, right? And so that is why it requires a
lot more time. Uh realistically, you know, I would tell people three to four
years. Give yourself a little uh leeway because it's not just us that has to do
the work. Um when we do rideway acquisition, we do
all of that and then MDOT has to go through and approve all of that and we
can't get started on the next step till we finish right away. And then plans,
MDOT has to approve all of that. So there's a lot of kind of us doing a lot
of work and then waiting on others and then doing a lot of work and waiting on
others. So if you want to give um give your constituents kind of a realistic
answer, 3 to four years. >> We have the same concerns of
hypothetically a gas line that isn't marked where
» Yeah. And and and one of the challenges is like what we ran into on the cost
share project is the area team meets once a week. So and we aren't privy to
the meeting. So they meet, they review, they ask a question. Well, then we have
a week to respond and then they ask another question and then we have
another week to respond. So, you know, it's not like we can make these
decisions on the fly. Um, and it so so so that's exactly right. And and we have
we follow and we do everything by the rules anyway, but we we have extreme
oversight on rightway acquisition following what's called the Uniform Act.
Okay. It is uh designed to protect the property owner, you know, and make sure
that everything is done, everything is properly appraised, every opportunity is
given for the the owner to review and sign off on, you know, without being
coerced. So, I mean, I always feel good that I know we did the right thing. You
know, we always appraise everything. We sometimes we get second opinions. We did
that on the cost share project because we wanted to make sure it was such a big
acquisition that we were doing the right thing and everything was being fair uh
you know for oversight. >> So to answer your question are we going
to find something unexpected? Yes. >> And it could be something positive
unexpected. It might not be something positive. it. Who knows?
» Um, >> one of the most positive that's ahead.
» Um, I don't know. Could be we need fewer ride ofway than we thought, right? Yeah.
Um, there will almost always be something unexpected.
» Yeah. >> All right. Fun times.
» All right. Any other questions? And anyone want to make
» uh make a motion to authorize the city manager to execute an STBG agreement
with the Missouri Transportation Commission for the North Price Road
phase 1 project contingent upon final award approval.
» Second. >> All right. Motion made second. Can we
please pull the council? >> Council member Dragal.
» Yes. >> Council member Solomonov.
» Yes. >> Council member Clark.
» Yes. >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
» Yes. Mayor Lewis. >> Yes.
» Motion has passed. >> Thank you very much.
» Thank you very much. Good luck. >> Excited.
» All right. Item 17, hearing from citizens part two. Does anyone in the
audience or online wish to make a comment?
» We're looking at one person. >> Yeah, one person. All right, we'll move
on to item 18, review and acceptance of minutes. Uh, anyone have any corrections
or notes to call out on the minutes? >> All right. If not, I'll take a motion to
approve. >> I'd like to make a motion to approve the
council minutes from uh August 11th, 2026.
» Second. >> All right. Could we please pull the
council? >> Council member Juel,
» yes. >> Council member Solomonov,
» yes. >> Council member Clark,
» yes. >> Chairman Prom Halman,
» yes. >> Mayor Lewis,
» yes. >> Motion has passed. All
» right. Thank you. We'll move on to item 19, city attorney's report.
» No report this evening. >> All right. But we do have a close
session. >> Yep. Okay. All right. Right. Moving on
to item 20, close session. So, can I please get a motion to go into close
session? >> Like to make a motion go into close
session pursuant to the revised statutes of the state of Missouri. Discuss
client, excuse me, attorney client privileges, communications pursuant to
section 610.021 and real for and real estate matters
pursuant to section 610.0212.
» All right. All right. Do I hear a second?
» Second. >> Please pull the council.
» Council member Lewis. I'm sorry. This is this is the wrong one. Council member
Duel. >> Yes.
» Council member Solomon. >> Yes.
» Council member Clark. >> Yes.
» Chairman Prom Pashan Helman. >> Yes.
» Mayor Lewis. >> Yes. All right. We will now close this
regular session and move into executive floor session.
» All right. We'll call the we'll close the executive session and call the
regular session back to order. Um no major decisions were made uh at this
point. Um >> I'll make a motion to adjurnn
» and we will Yeah, we will adjourn at 9:45 p.m. Thank you.