[0:03] All right. Good evening everyone. We'll
call the Ovette City Council meeting on
[0:08] August 25th, 2026 to order. Please, can
we please have roll call?
[0:13] » Mayor Lewis
>> here.
[0:14] » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman
>> here.
[0:16] » Council member Clark
>> here.
[0:18] » Council member Solomonov
>> here.
[0:20] » Council member Durgel
>> here.
[0:22] » All righty. Uh, are there any
communications to share at this time?
[0:26] » I have no written communications. All
right, we'll move on to item number
[0:30] three, city manager report, please.
>> Good evening.
[0:35] Let me
[0:40] share my screen.
[0:48] » We were late, so sorry.
>> All right. Um, good evening everyone.
[0:57] Um, so, um, I have a number of upcoming
events. We are winding up summer and,
[1:03] uh, fall is always super busy for us.
So, we encourage everybody to come out
[1:08] to Paris Baguette, um, August 31st,
which is next Monday between 8 and 10:00
[1:15] a.m. in the morning to meet with one of
our, uh, police officers. So, coffee
[1:20] with a cop uh, will be during that time.
There will be coffee and some limited
[1:25] free pastries. So, if you have not had a
chance to uh try a pastry at Paris
[1:31] Baguette, this would be a great
opportunity to do that, as well as uh
[1:35] come talk to one of Olivet's finests.
[1:40] Uh and September 15th is Night Out. So,
this is an opportunity for you and your
[1:46] neighbors to gather to have a block
party and then if you sign up uh some
[1:52] oliveette city officials, including the
uh police officers, the fire department,
[1:58] you might get the fire truck or the
ambulance uh to come and to stop by and
[2:02] to say hello um meet and greet with uh
our oliveette community. So, um we would
[2:08] encourage all of the neighbors to go
ahead and sign up. If you have
[2:12] questions, uh, please reach out to
Lieutenant Selzer in the police
[2:16] department.
[2:20] And every year we do the Battle of the
Badges, which is a competition between
[2:26] the fire department and the police
department. Uh, it is essentially a
[2:30] blood drive for the American Red Cross.
And both our fire department and our
[2:36] police department have compelling
stories, personal stories about
[2:41] grandchildren uh and their need for
blood, hence the blood drive. And so
[2:46] individuals who come and donate blood
are given an opportunity to cast a vote
[2:52] for either the police department or the
fire department. Um and at the you know
[2:57] at the end of the drive the winning
department receives some gift from the
[3:04] losing department. Um the fire
department has more years that they have
[3:09] won uh than the police department. So
come out donate for a good cause to the
[3:14] American cross and then choose which
public safety group is your favorite.
[3:22] Trivia night is being hosted at Five
Oaks on September 18th. There are nine
[3:28] tables left, so bring your friends uh
for a table of eight. The theme this
[3:33] year is 90s and 2000s sitcoms, so there
should be something for everyone. Um
[3:40] register for your table and we hope to
see you there. I think there's at least
[3:44] one staff table. Um and I think a couple
other folks have gotten um tables for
[3:50] the trivia night.
[3:53] The great Olivet cleanout is happening
again. It is at Five Oaks on Warson.
[3:58] This is a change from um Stacy Park. So
in years past it's been at Stacy Park.
[4:03] This year it is at Five Oaks on Warson.
It's on the lower parking lot. So this
[4:08] is an opportunity for residents to
either have documents shredded if you
[4:14] have some of those in your office or
your home office. This is not for um a
[4:19] business cleanout, but if you do have a
home office and you have documents that
[4:23] you would like shredded or if you have
any um e-waste, so almost anything with
[4:28] a cord, uh they will take and uh recycle
those for you.
[4:32] » Do you know if it's still a drive-thru?
>> Yes, as far as I know, it is still a
[4:35] drive-thru. And so there is a very
specific route for you to uh to come
[4:40] through. They will take the items um out
of your vehicle. It's very easy. you
[4:45] should be um in and out in not much time
at all. So, and we did receive the
[4:49] grant. So, we've signed off on that and
we did receive the grant for this.
[4:56] » The fall and winter activity guide is
out. These are all of the recreational
[5:01] programs that the city is offering
through the fall and the winter. We have
[5:05] some hard copies out in the lobby if you
would like. Uh it's also on the city's
[5:09] website and should be hitting should
actually be in homes already. So, we
[5:14] would encourage you to check those out.
We have activities for all ages.
[5:19] And then I just always encourage
everyone to sign up for weekly, which is
[5:23] our weekly e newswsletter.
And then just some general city updates.
[5:31] Um, our new finance director, Julia
Gwyn, starts tomorrow. So, we probably
[5:38] uh in September, we will bringing be
bringing her to council to to introduce
[5:41] her. Uh we are recruiting for another
police officer. Uh two weeks ago I told
[5:48] you that we had made conditional officer
offers to two individuals. Uh one of
[5:54] them accepted. They are in the
pre-employment screening phase. Um the
[5:58] other candidate decided that uh he was
going to remain at his uh his place of
[6:02] employment. Um and then the follow-up
from the Hicks Carter Hicks the
[6:07] employment engagement committee is
meeting this week. They're going to
[6:10] start working on um employee recognition
and then um I have asked Hicks Carter
[6:17] Hicks to craft a proposal to help the
city with an internal communications
[6:22] plan. uh one of the uh comments and
areas of deficiency on the survey was
[6:29] communication and that's a pretty broad
um topic and so I do think working with
[6:34] them to create and improve some of our
internal communications is a good start
[6:39] to making headway on that uh survey
result. Are they going to talk to
[6:44] employees to understand kind of like
what I I know they have the survey
[6:48] results, but to understand like where
they saw gaps in communication. Will
[6:51] they have those conversations before
they craft?
[6:53] » They're going to craft me a proposal to
do it. So like we'll get a scope of
[6:56] work.
>> Oh, proposal to even reach out and talk
[6:58] to people. Gotcha.
>> Correct. Not build a plan and then say
[7:01] Okay. Correct. Gotcha.
[7:05] » Uh and then here are your upcoming
meeting dates. And so with that, I can
[7:09] answer any council questions.
questions?
[7:14] No. All right. Thank you very much.
>> All right. We are going to move on to
[7:20] staff reports, please, then.
>> All right. Uh, starting with fire
[7:23] department. So, we often talk about the
fire department and their um
[7:27] firefighting training and their um calls
for fire. But I thought this month we
[7:33] might just kind of highlight the fact
that they do run an ambulance and that
[7:39] takes a a good amount of their time.
They actually run quite a few medical
[7:43] calls. So just
uh looking at this chart, this is on
[7:48] average about five calls a day that
they're running. Um, as you can see,
[7:53] they spend a lot of time in the city of
Alvette, but we are also contracted for
[7:58] um, fire service, fire and EMS service
for the pocket of uninccorporated that's
[8:04] just north of us on Dealman. So, we
respond there. St. Louis County
[8:09] contracts with us, pays us to provide
that service to them. And then we do get
[8:13] called out of town um often to um Creve
Corps or U City um or certain things on
[8:21] the highway we might get called out for
for both police and or for EMS and fire
[8:28] parks and wreck. Uh we just finished
earlier this month uh municipals. So,
[8:34] municipals is this uh part of this photo
right here is h offered every other year
[8:41] and it is a camp that highlights the
city departments. So, the police
[8:47] department had a day and brought out the
mounted patrol from St. Charles County,
[8:54] brought out some therapy dogs, brought
out some um other fun police things. The
[9:02] fire department had a day had an half a
day and they got to go down the slide
[9:06] and the fire department because we have
a slide and not a pole and they got to
[9:11] do some other fun uh firefighter things.
This particular picture we had an
[9:16] opportunity to partner with Emerson who
is a business here in the city of
[9:20] Alvette and they came and did uh science
things with uh with the kids. So they
[9:26] did the egg drop project um learning
about gravity and um force distribution
[9:32] and things like that. And so the kids
had a good time. And then the other
[9:35] thing with uh the parks department, this
happens to be the segment uh one of the
[9:40] new segments of the Centennial Greenway.
So now that that greenway has been in
[9:45] for more than one year, maintenance
falls to the city. And so this is our um
[9:50] horiculturalist
and our park staff who are clearing um
[9:55] clearing the fence lines uh along along
that particular section of the trail
[10:03] planning department. So these are fiscal
year to date. So from June of 25 through
[10:09] July uh no I'm sorry July of 25 through
June of this year. So, as you can see,
[10:15] um they were pretty consistent. Uh lots
of people got their roof replaced um in
[10:22] this particular fiscal year, most likely
from uh the storm that came through in
[10:27] um in this in May of last year. Um and
we see a lot of um tenant finishes. So,
[10:34] this could be like reinvestment by
businesses or new businesses coming in
[10:39] or updates to businesses. Uh so this is
a good sign and what has um been keeping
[10:45] one aspect of what has been keeping um
Carlos and his staff very busy over the
[10:51] course of the year.
[10:54] The police department uh officer Bagsby,
this is Officer Bagsby here. He went to
[11:00] Aphina Healthc Care's event um talking
about gun safety in particular uh
[11:06] gunlocks. The Alvette Police Department
donated 50 gunlocks for this particular
[11:11] event. So, this is just a reminder that
our police department has gunlocks
[11:17] available to anyone in the community who
is interested. There's no cost. Uh, and
[11:22] they are available Monday through
Friday, normal business hours. Just go
[11:26] see the records clerk um here at city
center uh if that's something that you
[11:30] are interested.
[11:34] And then public works. Um, if you have
driven at Price, North Price and Olive,
[11:41] you have seen a lot of work there. Uh,
this happens to be the contractor. They
[11:46] did some paving overnight. They did a
really um a really nice job on that
[11:52] work. The work here at the 9201 Olive
site where um the CBDraton building was,
[12:02] there has been a delay. It is not a
delay related to the city.
[12:07] It is a delay because a a pipe wasn't
where wasn't as deep as we thought it
[12:12] was.
That required some changes to storm
[12:16] water drains that MDOT took a long time
trying to figure out what they wanted.
[12:20] Um but work is moving forward. In fact,
Spire was on site today moving the gas
[12:25] line that needed to be moved in order to
accommodate um the storm drain. So,
[12:29] we're a little bit behind on where we
thought we would be to close out this
[12:33] project. Um, but it is related to
situations beyond our control. And then
[12:39] we do have some good news. So, as you
might recall, we um put in for a grant
[12:45] for
um reconstruction of North Price between
[12:50] Delmare and Old Bonum um an STPS grant.
And while we have not received the grant
[12:56] yet, we are on the recommended list. So,
um, East Swiss Gateway meets later this
[13:04] week to review that recommended list and
hopefully approve that list and
[13:08] hopefully we will be approved so that we
can um move forward
[13:15] with reconstruction of that section of
North Price. It is a multi-year project.
[13:20] So there will be design time and
right-of-way acquisition time and then
[13:24] construction time. So it's looking
probably a 3 to four year long u process
[13:31] and that is all I have unless you have
any additional questions for me.
[13:36] » Questions? Pencil? No, it's very
thorough. Thank you very much.
[13:40] » Thank you.
>> All right, we will move on to monthly
[13:44] financial reports, please.
[14:04] All right, I am filling in for our
interim finance director who um she had
[14:10] a previously scheduled event this
evening. So um you are seeing the report
[14:17] for the second month of the year. Um
[14:22] as you can see we are we are on track.
Um general revenue started the year
[14:28] above expectations by about $37,000.
General fund expenditures are also above
[14:35] expectations. Um this is normal. We have
a variety of um like all of our
[14:41] insuranceances are due. So workers comp,
liability, property, all of that is due
[14:47] um at the very beginning of the year. So
um that's not unexpected.
[14:53] Um it does result in an unfavorable
variance. But again, we are um this is
[14:58] the July financial report. So at this
point, we were one month into uh into
[15:03] the into the into the year.
Um it is not unusual for property taxes
[15:09] to be slow. Again, we get those in um
December and January.
[15:15] And um parks and wreck revenues started
the year mixed um and they do um they
[15:22] exceeded budget projections due to high
soccer enrollments. So soccer is very
[15:26] very popular. And then the chart of our
month, this is our monthly uh 1% sales
[15:33] tax, which we took out a bunch of the
noise. If you might remember past
[15:37] graphs, there were a lot of lines there.
So this is just the last two years. So
[15:43] fiscal 25, fiscal 26 and then where we
are um for 27. So we are of course
[15:50] higher than 25 and a little bit below um
of 26.
[15:55] So if you have any questions, I'm happy
to answer those for you.
[15:58] » We anticipate a drop off or I don't
remember what the drop off. Yeah,
[16:02] » we don't anticipate the drop off, but I
will say sales tax tends to be cyclical.
[16:09] So, anything that we uh receive in
September is actually from people buying
[16:15] things in July because it's always a
two-month lag.
[16:18] » Um, so
we could it could also be um July is a
[16:27] is half the year and a quarter of the
year. And so there are certain entities
[16:32] that only report sales tax half of the
year, half of the way through the year
[16:36] and a quarter of the way through the
year. So that um drop off could have
[16:40] been somebody missed the cut off. Um so
there are a variety of of factors that
[16:47] could um account for that.
>> But it bounced back up bounced back up.
[16:52] » Correct. Yeah.
>> Correct. particularly if it's um they
[16:56] just miss the cut off because then you
get to you know you get it the next
[17:00] month. So
[17:04] » that's all I have unless you have
anything else.
[17:05] » No. Any questions?
>> No.
[17:07] » Okay.
>> All right. Thank you. All right. We're
[17:10] going to move on to city council liaison
reports for each council member to give
[17:14] an update of kind of activities they've
been up to. Uh council member Clark,
[17:18] » I have no reports at this time. Council
member Jurgal.
[17:22] » Uh we had a parks meeting. Um most of
the meeting was the installation of two
[17:27] new commissioners. So uh was kind of
orient or orienting them to the process.
[17:34] And it was great going through it again
because u uh they went over all of you
[17:38] know of city government and uh I know I
was given the training beforehand but
[17:44] when you hear it the second time it
sinks in a little bit more. So that's
[17:48] always good. Um, one other thing that's
coming up with uh the parks is going to
[17:52] be the review of the Indian Meadows uh
pavilions. So, that that's on their
[17:57] agenda and uh should be moving along.
>> Great. Uh, Council Member Sono.
[18:05] » Uh, no report for me this evening. I do
have an EDC meeting next Monday.
[18:10] » It's on.
>> It's
[18:14] Oh, the light is hitting my mistake.
It's my first day. All right. uh
[18:17] chairman promis
I attended the PCDC meeting on August
[18:22] 20th and at that meeting an outdoor uh
metal canopy was approved for the brass
[18:30] tap to help extend the seasons for them
um and extend some seating outside
[18:36] during the wintertime months. So, that
was approved. Um, and that the roof of
[18:41] that structure will stay throughout the
year, but then there's a wall kind of
[18:46] enclosure that's temporary for the uh
months of November through Feb fe
[18:52] November through February.
Um, we also discussed continued
[18:57] discussing a text amendment for coin
operated laundromats.
[19:03] Um and a new single family home was
approved for 1123 Hilltop
[19:10] and uh also had discussion on a text
amendment to allow for other warehousing
[19:15] and storage that would be specifically
for car condominiums.
[19:21] So, these are uh spaces that would be um
condominiums that would be sold to
[19:29] individuals uh who would likely store
their luxury cars, potentially
[19:35] um RVs and boats. Um but they would be
individual condominiums. So, kind of a
[19:43] new thing um coming before the
commission and and so it's um at the
[19:49] discussion stage at this point. Um and
that's all. Thank you.
[19:54] » Great. Uh a couple of things. I had the
privilege of speaking uh chamber of
[20:00] commerce uh for the state of the city
and it's an opportunity where I get to
[20:03] go and give a state of the city of how
we're doing from an economic and
[20:07] residential and development and just how
we're overall you know what is all of
[20:11] that and get to brag on all of that
which was very exciting and a big thank
[20:15] you to staff Kiana and uh others for
helping you know draft things put
[20:20] together a great slideshow and it was
you know really wellreceived and get and
[20:23] get to meet some people there so that
was really nice and then today I
[20:26] attended the Olivet housing authority uh
where they had a few procedural items
[20:30] reviewing the financial audit reports
approving other things talking about
[20:33] next steps on everything around some of
the policies we're moving forward on the
[20:37] housing. So that that is progressing as
well. Um and then um yeah those were
[20:44] things that I got to attend. So uh we'll
move on to item seven items from council
[20:49] members. So, a chance for us just if
we've been hearing things that you want
[20:53] to bring up for a future topic, we won't
go deep into them now. And uh just a
[20:57] open forum.
>> Nope.
[21:01] » Nothing for me.
>> All right. No,
[21:04] » nothing for me.
>> Nothing for me either. The only things
[21:07] I'll mention um since not everyone
probably was able to attend previous
[21:10] meetings we've had and since I see a lot
of uh speakers here which is going to be
[21:13] great is we did at a previous work
session a few weeks ago discuss the
[21:17] Indian Meadows Pavilion and as uh
council member Joel mentioned that's
[21:21] going to come before parks and wreck
where they're going to we asked to go
[21:24] back to their ask for their assessment
and then it'll come back to the council
[21:27] at that point um and we'd given the
direction to look at what it would take
[21:31] to remove and what their thoughts were
and then uh we'll get their feedback on
[21:35] that. uh previous meeting we'd obviously
discussed block cameras with the uh
[21:39] chief of police and so that will be on a
future agenda so just calling that out
[21:43] as well as the NIT policy will be on a
future uh agenda in the future as well
[21:48] uh and then obvious
[21:52] uh I imagine people here to speak as
well and so appreciated that we had
[21:56] committed ID committed back that we're
going to meet with our legal team to
[21:59] understand what options all of it has
because it is a unique situation and
[22:02] then uh happy to meet with the concerned
citizens themselves and any council are
[22:06] welcome to join me to want to hear
everyone's you know concerns in person
[22:09] and understand everything and then after
that we'll take whatever the appropriate
[22:14] actions that we can and don't know what
those are right now can't promise
[22:17] anything but you know want to hear from
everyone and then we'll we'll see what
[22:20] comes of that so all right uh we're
going to move on to hearing from
[22:25] citizens so this is a portion of the
agenda where anyone present in person or
[22:28] virtually may address the city council
regarding any topic including those
[22:32] later in the agenda each speaker is
allowed up three minutes to address the
[22:35] mayor and city council. Hearing from
citizens is designed for councils to
[22:39] receive feedback rather than for a
direct dialogue. We will take speakers
[22:43] in person first followed by any online.
If you are in person, please complete a
[22:47] speaker card and give it to the clerk.
If you've already given your card to the
[22:49] clerk, we will take you in the order
submitted on your card. If you are
[22:54] online, wish to speak, please use the
raise your hand feature and you will be
[22:57] added as a speaker. For all speakers, we
ask that you state your name and address
[23:01] for the record prior to leaving the
remarks and that you keep the three
[23:05] minutes and just so for the equity for
everyone. So, uh, first are Nancy and
[23:10] Bob Martin, please.
[23:17] And if you don't mind turning on the
mic, please.
[23:21] » Yep.
Perfect.
[23:24] » Um, good evening. My name is Bob Martin.
Nancy Martin
[23:29] » and we live at 39 Brford. Um, last week
we sent all you guys an email regarding
[23:35] uh AZZ and a Missouri uh state statute.
Uh, this is concerning AZ galvanizing.
[23:42] Um, thank you Mr. Mayor for responding.
>> Yes.
[23:46] » Um, following are excer ex excuse me
excerpts from the Missouri state chapter
[23:50] 220 nuisance. nuisances. A nuisance is
any act done or committed or suffered to
[23:56] be done, committed by any person or any
substance or thing kept, maintained,
[24:01] placed or found in any public or private
property that is injurous to the public
[24:05] health, safety or welfare. are to permit
premises to become unsightly,
[24:09] unsanitary, or obnoxious or obl to the
vicini to the vicinity or offensive to
[24:16] the senses of users of the public way
abudding the premises that depreciates
[24:21] the enjoyment and the use of the
property in the immediate vicinity to
[24:26] such an extent that it is harmful to the
community in which the property is
[24:30] situated or such a condition exists. AZZ
Galvanizing fits every one of these
[24:35] definitions of a nuisance. It's zoned
light industrial, but it's expanded
[24:39] several times over the years. It's not
light industrial anymore. We are asking
[24:44] Alvette to protect its citizens from
this nuisance and use statute title 7
[24:50] cities, towns, and villages chapter 71.7
I'm sorry 71.780
[24:56] nuisances expensive suppression how paid
the noise and toxic emissions are
[25:03] unbearable and hazardous to our
neighbors health and quality of life and
[25:09] ours. Uh, we are sleeping in our bedroom
that faces away from ACZ because we
[25:14] can't sleep in our master bedroom
anymore from the noise. We can't enjoy
[25:18] our beautiful yard. We've lived in
Olivet for 32 years. It's home. Um,
[25:23] » please help us.
>> Please help us.
[25:26] Um, they're getting worse and worse.
And we're up on Brford High where the
[25:33] noise really hits us, but our neighbors
in Indian Meadows are just getting
[25:37] creamed. They're getting gassed. It's
terrible. But thank you very much for
[25:41] coming. Really appreciate it.
>> Thank you.
[25:43] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[25:46] » All right. Uh moving on. Uh Jenny
Littleton.
[26:00] Hi, my name is Jenny Littleton. I live
at 9639 Haron Drive. I just want to ask
[26:06] my city council if they would please
support and help all of the residents
[26:10] deal with this do's a galvanizing.
It's to the point where my son who's
[26:16] seven, he's beginning to have temper
tantrums because he has a trampoline, a
[26:22] basketball hoop, a soccer net that now
he can't play because when he begins to
[26:28] play, I have to make him come in. And so
now he's getting upset, stumping yelling
[26:35] in the house. What's the purpose of me
having this if I can't play? When are
[26:39] they going to move that company? He's
seven years old. This is the point where
[26:45] he doesn't have temper tantrums. Now
he's having them because he's not
[26:49] getting to play outside. And this was
for the summer. So, I had to make fun
[26:55] activities in my basement. So, I mean,
now the children, it's to the point
[27:00] where I'm asking the kids and my
subdivision, you you guys got to go home
[27:04] now. You can't play here. Can we come
back when the smoke is gone? Yes, you
[27:07] can come back. So, now the kids, it's
just getting to be too much. And then
[27:12] also, I'm I know you brought up about
you're going to bring it up with the
[27:15] parks and you guys are going to redisuss
about the pavilion. Please move that
[27:20] pavilion. There's so much going on that
my son is seven. He said, "There's
[27:24] always something going on over here at
this pavilion. Problems every day. He's
[27:31] seven. There was a time he didn't know
anything about that. Now he's seven."
[27:35] And he's saying these things. And one of
the neighbors, she couldn't be here
[27:38] today. She did ask me, "Until you guys
decide about how you're going to move
[27:43] it, would you please at least move the
tables underneath the pavilion while you
[27:47] guys are trying to figure out how you're
going to move that pavilion?" So until
[27:52] you have a due date when you're going to
move it, could you please at least move
[27:55] the tables? Cuz a lot of that buffoonery
that happens in the morning, afternoon,
[28:00] and night, they won't have anywhere to
sit and lay and do all of that extra
[28:05] activity that's unwanted and that we
don't need. So I just wanted to ask you
[28:10] guys, would you please bless our
community to help all the residents
[28:13] dealing with a galvanizing and the
nuisance unwanted pavilion, please?
[28:18] Thank you so much. Thank you very much
for coming.
[28:23] All right.
Uh Willamina Shackleford, please.
[28:34] » Good evening.
>> Willamina Shackle for 9656 here on
[28:38] first. I'm in agreement with Nancy and
Bob. It is horrible and re lately it's
[28:44] just roars so loud. 3:00 am, four
o'clock. It wakes you up and then you
[28:49] can't go back to sleep. They'll turn it
off or turn it down maybe about 7:30, I
[28:54] guess, when they figure people or
whatever's going on. But it's just been
[28:57] ridiculous. Just ridiculous. And we
haven't really said a lot because, you
[29:02] know, that there were attorneys working
on it. So, you know, we want to continue
[29:05] that. But we need the help of the city.
So, I hope that that uh state statute
[29:09] will help. I got a couple other things
real quick. Um, one is our park and I
[29:16] know when they redid the the uh the
trail, but they didn't do anything to
[29:21] the park. Is that on Olivet? It's kind
of bumpy. You know, it's the asphalt,
[29:25] the black that's in the actual park in
Indian Meadows. So, it's kind of crumbly
[29:30] in some areas. So, the other concern is
we have two spaces in uh the new park
[29:37] area that when it we get heavy rain,
it's full of water. So the kids go out
[29:41] there and play. Then they muddy muddy up
everything which is by the water park.
[29:46] And then the other area is by the
playground area around one of the trees
[29:50] is set real low so if we can get that
build back up so that the water won't
[29:54] set there. Um the other one is the
trees. We have a lot of dead trees. I
[29:59] know they've cut some down but when we
get any kind of a rain or wind, I should
[30:03] say wind, there's branches all over the
park. And I realize it's more than one
[30:08] park. So sometimes it take them a while.
But then the kids are playing and you
[30:11] got these big branches that are laying
all over the park trail. Uh, one more
[30:15] thing. How chickens.
We got the chicken coupoops gone from
[30:21] the side of the house, but there is a
pin. So, I've asked over and over about
[30:25] an ordinance to be written so that I
don't care about the chickens, but they
[30:28] need to be fenced in in the back of the
house and not in the very front.
[30:34] This these chicken coops were on the
front on the side of the home. and I've
[30:37] complained for a couple of years. And so
it's my understanding that all of that
[30:42] has been washed aside. I don't know if
anybody knows if that is true, but I'm
[30:46] going to I'm going to research it that
that's over. The governor was is the one
[30:50] that uh approved that, but it's my
understanding that they've been fighting
[30:55] it. So, I don't know. But if not, can we
get an ordinance where they are are
[31:00] fenced in in the back? And then I think
that's it. Um Oh. We have another area
[31:08] in our subdivision and I've complained
about it several times. We need some
[31:11] help uh with uh enforcement of uh
property upkeep. So, we got a lot of
[31:18] issues with that, but I understand we
only have one part-time person
[31:23] and for this city, we could probably use
one or two to just do property upkeep
[31:29] for the for uh all of the the entire uh
et
[31:38] Bruce is here. Brand view on the corner
of Grand View and La Hoya. There are
[31:44] huge papa trees that have grown out into
the street. I've asked you can't even
[31:49] see the street sign. The the trees were
trimmed back right at the sign, but of
[31:53] course they grow back. I'm asking that
something be done about those trees
[31:57] because it's really a hindrance. If you
are coming up to the stop sign and
[32:01] somebody's coming from the other
direction, these trees are huge and they
[32:04] are actually in the street.
You familiar with that? you know, been
[32:09] over there in
>> Asia. It's still there. It's just worse.
[32:13] So, we have several areas where the
trees are actually growing into the
[32:17] street, ground up, not just hanging
over. So, they actually block traffic.
[32:23] » That's it.
>> Thank you very much.
[32:24] » Appreciate it.
>> All right. Uh Stephanie Chop.
[32:37] Hi. Uh, Stephanie Todd, 7 Heather Hill
Lane. So, I'm here to support the
[32:43] residents um near Indian Meadows and
their complaints about AZZ as an Olivet
[32:49] resident, but also I'm representing the
Sierra Club and Dark Sky, Missouri who
[32:54] have who the they have also gotten
involved in these issues. There are
[32:59] really three issues. Light trespass,
potential air pollution, and noise. The
[33:06] light trespass that is occurring should
be easy to take care of because St.
[33:10] Louis County already has an ordinance
against it. So, it'd be really good if
[33:16] someone from Alvette notified the county
that light trespass from AZ shining into
[33:24] residents houses, shining off the
property into residents houses and ask
[33:30] az to shield their lights.
No, air pollution and noise are more
[33:35] difficult. However, Olivet can do
something about it. The residents have
[33:40] been complaining about AZ for at least
two years. But they didn't give up. They
[33:45] found a regulation that cities can
enforce ordinances up to a half mile
[33:51] outside their boundaries. Alvette needs
to step up and support its citizens. The
[33:57] county does not have the necessary
equipment to determine if ACC is
[34:02] emitting pollutants
and to
[34:06] and and to identify the pollutants.
However, the outside groups that that
[34:13] they're working with um they're trying
to um install air monitors and analyze
[34:20] air samples and noise monitors. So, I
encourage you to work with them to get
[34:26] data to back up their claims.
Um, noise is a harder problem, but put
[34:33] yourself in these resident shoes. How
would you like to hear a loud bang
[34:38] several times in the middle of the
night?
[34:41] I'm asking you to find a way to stop the
loud noise at night and determine if az
[34:46] is polluting the air and if they are to
try to stop them. These problems should
[34:51] not be ignored and all of it can and
should do something about them.
[34:55] » Thank you very much. Appreciate your
time.
[34:59] » Right. Is there anyone else in the
audience who wanted to speak?
[35:11] » Good evening.
>> Evening.
[35:12] » My name is Denise Williams. I live at
9600 Hiron Drive.
[35:19] I just have to say I live ac across the
street from the park
[35:24] where
all this noise
[35:29] have been going on for quite a while.
[35:34] And
hearing this noise all day
[35:40] and throughout your time of rest
[35:46] is depreciating
your livelihood.
[35:51] I'm 70 and I'm not getting any rest.
I've retired to come home and enjoy the
[35:57] kids, enjoy my bed where I've been
missing it for all this time. And then
[36:02] you come home and you're hearing all of
this unnecessary
[36:08] noise that's not supposed to be a part
of your life in Eloette.
[36:15] I used to call Alvette when I moved here
sleepy hollow.
[36:20] Very quiet, very surreal.
[36:26] That has been stolen.
And
[36:31] days and days and days have passed by
and all of you all are sleeping
[36:38] comfortably while we're up in the I walk
the trail three times a day. You hear
[36:44] it? It's supposed to be surreal on the
um path. It's supposed to be something
[36:50] great that you all have done for the
community.
[36:58] I don't think so.
Cuz you're walking, you're smelling that
[37:03] stuff big
just so much smoke it covers the whole
[37:10] park. The stench comes in your windows.
[37:15] You smell it at night.
Not including the noise, but the smoke,
[37:21] the stench.
[37:25] So
imagine, close your eyes and imagine
[37:29] that's how your days are going. Every
day you got to deal with this every day.
[37:37] Your kids are inhaling this
poison.
[37:43] We're at 70. They're cutting years off
our lives smelling it. I'm sure cuz it's
[37:48] chemicals that we're absorbing into our
bodies. the kids are absorbing over at
[37:55] the park that is so nice to have in the
neighborhood, but it's being blown
[38:00] straight to hell.
Their lives are being cut short.
[38:06] And
you guys are
[38:11] when y'all sleep at night, just think
your glory oliveette
[38:17] is causing suffering
for a lot of of your community and we're
[38:25] just asking you to really take this to
heart and understand what we're dealing
[38:30] with.
Thank you.
[38:32] » Thank you very much for coming.
Appreciate it.
[38:37] All right. Anyone else in the audience
wish to speak?
[38:42] Is there anyone online? Please raise
your hand.
[38:50] All right. Thank you for everyone for
your comments. Sincerely appreciate it.
[38:55] All right. We are going to move on now
to item nine. Bill 3066. Could we please
[39:00] have the title be read? Bill 3066, an
ordinance authorizing a special permit
[39:04] usage for O3BP Associates LLC, owners of
the property grounds, addressed as 9600
[39:10] and 9606 Olive Boulevard, to permit
Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an
[39:15] outdoor display and storage area on the
east parking lot portion associated with
[39:19] their tenant space addressed as 9612
Olive Boulevard. Second reading.
[39:24] » Thank you.
[39:29] Good evening, mayor, members of the
council. My name is Carlos Trejo. I'm
[39:32] the director of planning and community
development, and I'm requesting a second
[39:36] reading call for action for uh this
bill. We had our public hearing on
[39:40] August 11th. Be glad to answer any
questions, and we do have a
[39:43] representative in attendance if
necessary.
[39:46] » The only question I had is I think there
was a an ask to look at and I think
[39:50] council man had asked about it like in
terms of the location, could it be
[39:53] wedged into the corner in the back or
anything like that? Was that feasible?
[39:57] Um, in terms of the drawing, if I'm
remembering correctly,
[40:01] » that was related if like parking was an
issue.
[40:04] » Yeah.
>> If that and and that may be something
[40:06] that needs to be looked at if it becomes
an issue or not.
[40:10] » That's fine.
>> Um, and but I I think that's what we
[40:14] were talking about.
>> That is correct. Okay.
[40:15] » That's my understanding.
>> Yeah. And I guess my question is a
[40:18] procedural question related um just with
us being a fairly new council. Should
[40:23] there be an issue that becomes apparent
with parking um or traffic movement with
[40:31] the location safety um what what is the
process for if if we approve the special
[40:38] permit as it is tonight but realize that
it is not functioning in in the way that
[40:44] we intended it to.
>> We'll engage with the uh first engage
[40:48] with the applicant or the petitioner
that operates a special use permit. see
[40:52] what we can try to mitigate what is out
there, get a better understanding, uh
[40:56] then ultimately report back to the
council. The council does have the right
[40:59] to revoke a permit uh if it finds that
there is some val validation to the
[41:04] concerns that are expressed
[41:08] » question. How do we define parking
issues? Like what do we consider that to
[41:12] be?
>> That's a very good question. I mean that
[41:14] that site I would assume uh that there
will be some type of reported incident
[41:18] on Olive or so. But if somebody just
can't find a parking space on a specific
[41:23] date uh you know they can bring that
information we can try to log it and
[41:26] record it. But you know it would have to
be something that that's known uh in
[41:32] there and then the the process that we
had today of the people speaking before
[41:35] the council noting concerns or issues
gets it on the record. I imagine that
[41:39] makes
>> well and I imagine if the city got
[41:41] notified we that could be brought
forward to us but I think about
[41:44] hypothetically a certain parking lot you
know south of us at the end of 170 I
[41:48] hear people complain about you know all
the time it's like you if we hear about
[41:51] citizens something we can bring up too
hopefully it's not an issue and
[41:55] » ultimately that it is I mean we will
report back to the council the council
[41:59] has you know if there's a consensus that
it is an issue I would assume the
[42:03] council holds the authority to revoke
the permit or push
[42:07] » modify
solution.
[42:10] » And we talked about Dobs only using the
first row of parking, right?
[42:16] » That is a private agreement, I believe,
that they have with the property owner
[42:19] that they're supposed to be using only
that.
[42:21] » Okay. That's not a city enforcable.
>> It wasn't anything that we we put in
[42:24] into our our contingencies or so because
that's more again that's open parking
[42:30] for this.
>> Okay.
[42:32] » Is the parking lot itself owned by one
parcel or another? It's the best the
[42:38] best of my understanding it's all owned
by uh or the O3BP Associates which
[42:44] operates as Biano Properties. They have
the the ownership of all the grounds and
[42:48] then dos leases from them in there. I
know there are like three different
[42:53] parcels identified by county but it's
one large site.
[42:57] » Okay.
>> All right.
[43:00] » And then this is uh fairly random and I
do apologize. I did not send this
[43:06] question to you ahead of time. Has there
been any consideration with the little
[43:10] driveway, not driveway, but
uh right ofway area in the front of that
[43:16] building where you have a curb cut on
one side, a curve cut on the other side.
[43:20] Has there been any consideration to
closing that driveway? This obviously is
[43:27] bigger than this particular special use
permit, but through
[43:32] » it's it's one of those it's a long-term
discussion. We put together the council
[43:36] had authorized the uh us to do the
olivet uh boulevard uh conceptual master
[43:43] plan and it identified uh you know areas
and that that's one of the sides.
[43:47] Unfortunately with the curvature of the
road is one problem. The intersections
[43:52] of the opposite streets on the north
side is another problem. and then none
[43:56] of the aprons align. Um, easy solution
is to place a median. That resolve all
[44:01] the problems, but I'm sure you'll hear a
lot about that uh in there. Uh, but over
[44:06] time working with those property owners,
we made them familiar with with the
[44:10] concept. Uh, ultimately, you know, and
we've had discussions about, you know,
[44:15] kind of nudging them to think think
ahead of reassessing the whole parking
[44:20] layout on the the shopping center. It's
a it's tough. It's something I got, you
[44:24] know, we're, you know, 1963 that was a
determination of how that layout was was
[44:29] put in place and whether they looked at
the the external factors and what was
[44:33] across the street. I can't tell you
that. But, uh, it it, you know, I guess
[44:40] we've made them aware. They know that
there are issues. They're looking at
[44:43] some formal way that maybe
uh over time that we can kind of like
[44:48] reshift or consolidate that but it get
becomes expensive and that becomes the
[44:53] key question. Is it all on their dime or
is it something that we collaborate with
[44:57] them and partner with uh in that
process? If you go back to the catalyst
[45:01] tragedy uh another uh you know uh report
that the council funded uh and there why
[45:06] it didn't go the full extent uh to old
bonum road you know it talked about
[45:11] creating some type of uh traffic uh uh
uh improvement district or or
[45:17] transportation improvement district to
look at means of getting that you know
[45:22] re well it needs to be reassessed in
terms of where are the best points of
[45:27] entry uh in there and and internal
circulations are going to be also need
[45:32] to be looked at and of course the
streetscape enhancements. So I hope that
[45:36] kind of addresses it. I mean it is as
long as I my response to you
[45:40] » probably another night for
>> but I think it can be done within within
[45:46] you know you know the the plan's
horizon.
[45:50] » All right, any other questions?
>> I'll entertain a motion. I'll make a
[45:55] motion to approve bill 3066, an
ordinance authorizing a special permit
[46:00] use for the O3 BP Associates LLC, owners
of the property grounds addressed at
[46:07] 9600 and 9606 Alla Boulevard to permit
Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an
[46:13] outdoor display and storage area on the
east parking lot portion associated with
[46:18] their tenant space addressed as 9612
Olive Boulevard.
[46:23] » Second. All right. Motion made by
Council Member Jagos, second by Council
[46:27] Member Clark. Can we please pull to
council?
[46:30] » Council member Juel.
>> Yes.
[46:31] » Council member Solomonov.
>> Yes.
[46:33] » Council member Clark.
>> Yes.
[46:34] » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
>> Yes.
[46:36] » Mayor Lewis.
>> Yes.
[46:38] » The motion is passed. Bill 3066 becomes
ordinance 2836.
[46:43] » Thank you. We'll move on to I think it's
the Carlos show tonight, right? Move on
[46:47] to item 10. Bill 3067. Will you please
have the title be read? Bill 3067, an
[46:52] ordinance authorizing a special permit
usage for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the
[46:57] property grounds, addressed as 10401
Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced
[47:02] driver assistance systems to operate an
indoor automotive repair facility within
[47:06] the tenants space addressed as 10401
Bower Boulevard, Sweet B. Second
[47:11] reading.
>> Mayor, again, this was uh read at at our
[47:16] previous meeting on August 11th along
with a public hearing. be glad to answer
[47:19] any specific questions. We do have a
representative, Mr. Corbin, and I
[47:22] believe one of the operators uh in
attendance.
[47:27] » I didn't have any questions. I think we
covered it last time as far as I'm
[47:30] concerned. Does anyone have any
questions?
[47:34] Not to discredit. I think the work was
great last time, so we got our answer.
[47:37] So, it's a very interesting new property
to have. No. All right. Then, if anyone
[47:43] doesn't have any questions, um I'll
entertain a motion. I'd like to make a
[47:48] motion to approve bill 3067, an
ordinance authorizing a special permit
[47:52] use for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the
property grounds addressed at 10401
[47:57] Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced
driver assistance systems to operate an
[48:02] indoor automotive repair facility within
the tennis space addressed at 1041 Bower
[48:08] Boulevard, Sweet B.
>> Second.
[48:12] » All right. U motion's been made and a
second. Can we please pull the council?
[48:16] Council member Dragal,
>> yes.
[48:17] » Council member Solammanov,
>> yes.
[48:19] » Council member Clark,
>> yes.
[48:20] » Chairman Proemp, Shan Halman,
>> yes.
[48:22] » Mayor Lewis,
>> yes.
[48:24] » Motion is passed. Bill 3067 becomes
ordinance 2837.
[48:28] » All right, moving on to item 11, please.
Bill 3068. Can we please
[48:33] » have the title read?
>> Bill 3068, an ordinance reaffirming and
[48:37] adopting chapter 115, article 3, section
115.080 080 to 115.120
[48:43] conflict of interest for the city of
Alvette, Missouri municipal code and
[48:47] establishing a procedure to disclose
potential conflicts of interest and
[48:50] substantial interests for certain
municipal officials. Second reading
[48:55] » so we covered this last time procedural
that we need to do this.
[48:59] » That's correct.
>> All right. I did not have any questions.
[49:01] Did anyone on the council?
>> I had none.
[49:04] » All right. Then I will entertain a
motion. Make a motion to approve bill
[49:09] 3068,
an ordinance reaffirming and adopting
[49:13] chapter 115, article 3, section 115.080
through 115.120,
[49:21] conflict of interest of the city of
Alvette, Missouri municipal code, and
[49:25] establishing a procedure to disclose
potential conflicts of interest and
[49:29] substantial interests for certain
municipal officials.
[49:33] » All right, we hear a second.
>> Second.
[49:35] » All right. Can we please pull the
council?
[49:38] » Council member Duel.
>> Yes.
[49:39] » Council member Solomonov,
>> yes.
[49:41] » Council member Clark,
>> yes.
[49:42] » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
>> Yes.
[49:44] » Mayor Lewis,
>> yes.
[49:46] » Motion is passed. Bill 3068 becomes
ordinance 2838.
[49:51] » Right. We'll move on to item 12. Bill
3069. Can we please have the title be
[49:56] read?
>> Bill 3069, an ordinance granting an
[49:59] easement to Spire for the installation
of an underground gas man at 9201 Olive.
[50:03] Second reading.
Good evening, mayor and council members.
[50:07] Um, great news today. This buyer was on
site to finally begin relocating that
[50:12] 2-in high-pressure man. Um, any
questions about our discussion from a
[50:17] couple weeks ago or thoughts since then
about the wonderful world underneath our
[50:21] pavement [laughter]
>> when you put it that way.
[50:26] » Okay.
>> Got a lot of questions. Yeah,
[50:28] » I do not. I mean, nothing new to add
from the
[50:31] » Okay, so very good.
>> Yeah. Nothing yet.
[50:34] » Anyone? All right, then. I'll entertain
a motion,
[50:40] I guess. Do we have a motion on this
directly or We do have a motion, right?
[50:44] » Yeah.
>> So, do do we need just reward it to
[50:48] approve this?
>> Yeah. Um, you should just word it as a
[50:51] motion to approve bill number 3069, etc.
I would like to make a motion
[50:56] » for bill 3069, an ordinance, an
ordinance granting an easement to spire
[51:02] for the installation of an underground
gas m.
[51:04] » I second that.
>> All right. Motion made and seconded. Can
[51:07] we please pull the council?
>> Council member Duel.
[51:11] » Yes.
>> Council member Solomonov.
[51:12] » Yes.
>> Council member Clark.
[51:14] » Yes.
>> Chairman Prom Pashan Halman.
[51:16] » Yes.
>> Mayor Lewis.
[51:17] » Yes.
>> Motion is passed. Bill 3069 becomes
[51:19] ordinance 2839.
>> Thank you very much.
[51:22] » Thank you. Good luck.
All right, move on to item 13. Bill
[51:27] 3070. If we could please have the title
be read.
[51:34] Bill 3070, an ordinance authorizing a
special permit use for AC Richardson
[51:38] LLC, owners of the property grounds,
addressed as 1215 Dealman Industrial
[51:42] Court, to permit SSM Health Health
Cardinal Glennon Pediatric Therapy, to
[51:47] operate a 4566qt
medical clinic within the tenant space
[51:52] addressed as 9375 DM Industrial Drive.
First reading and public hearing.
[51:56] » All right. As part of this public
hearing, I'm going to go ahead and open
[51:58] up the public hearing for this bill. And
good evening, Max.
[52:02] » Yeah, welcome back.
>> Thank you. Uh my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm
[52:04] the director of planning and community
development for the city of Alvette. And
[52:07] tonight I'm here to present bill 3070,
which is a special permit use request
[52:12] for uh medical offices and clinics at
9375 Dilman Industrial Drive. The next
[52:17] slide will kind of show the location.
It's at the corner of Dilman Industrial
[52:21] Drive and Dilman Industrial Court, which
is on the lower left hand corner of of
[52:25] the parcel. It's a corner parcel uh in
there. It's about 3 and 12 acres. The
[52:30] building itself which you see the Lshape
and the white roof there is roughly
[52:34] 31,596
ft. It's a multi-tenant office
[52:38] warehouse. You might be familiar with
the uh the the artery is located in
[52:43] there along with uh the USGS uh is
located in that facility. Uh the
[52:48] proposed uses of medical office and
clinics and since this is light
[52:51] industrial uh medical offices and
clinics are identified in the permitted
[52:55] uses but only as a special permit and
that is why SSM health cardinal linen is
[53:00] here before you. It's zone L light
industrial district and it is authorized
[53:05] uh as a uh special permit use in the LI
district. Uh the next slide
[53:11] uh kind of talks about the special
permit procedure where we try to uh
[53:16] facilitate and then further our vision
and goals with the comprehensive plan
[53:19] which we hope is reflective of our
ordinances in the CO district but allows
[53:23] us to look at the potential impact the
the district itself the comp plan sites
[53:28] uh sustainability the surrounding
impacts and then the council rights to
[53:33] buffer uh required from additional
improvements and imposed some open space
[53:38] requirements. ments and to uh consider
uh some limitations like in hours and
[53:43] and things of that nature. It goes to
our planning and community design
[53:46] commission for review and a
recommendation and then a council holds
[53:50] the public hearing and then considers
actions via an ordinance. On the next
[53:55] slide, just a couple of things regarding
special permit uses. There are some
[53:58] general conditions that are outlined
with our ordinance. Those are that is it
[54:02] listed in the district? Does it further
the comprehensive plan? Uh is it the
[54:06] location the parcel suitable for the
environment surroundings? Is it
[54:09] complementaryary to the surroundings in
the neighborhood and the improvements?
[54:13] Uh did they demonstrate mitigation to
any potential spillover effects? And
[54:17] then of course it gives the city the
authority to grant buffering designate
[54:20] areas for uh open space limit set
limitations on operations implementation
[54:25] schedules meaning like over time they
need to do this and consider adequacy of
[54:30] public services. The next slide we'll
get into the nuts and bolts. This is a
[54:34] street view of the building facility.
They'll be taking that front corner that
[54:37] you see there. It's approximately I I
believe it's a little over 4,500 square
[54:42] f feet. We'll get to that specifically
uh in a second. Uh Dilman Industrial
[54:47] Drive is on the right hand side. Dilman
Industrial Court is on the left hand
[54:51] side. Dilman Industrial Court is just a
short street uh that leads directly to a
[54:55] building that's in the background there.
The next slide,
[54:59] this is the the uh just the tenant
improvement plans that they're proposing
[55:03] uh that kind of exist in the existing
site ground. It is a 4500 ft² building I
[55:08] believe. Um they are when you look at it
in comparison to the overall building
[55:13] which is about 3200 feet, 3200 32,000
ft². Uh they're a little bit of around
[55:19] an eighth of the whole building uh in
there. And you can see the corner area
[55:22] that they'll be taking up their space.
It's kind of proportion to the the size
[55:26] on on the uh on the plan. The next slide
will identify what are they doing. It's
[55:34] a 4,566
square foot outpatient physical therapy
[55:37] clinic, pediatric therapy clinic. Uh the
clinic provides multiddisciplinary
[55:42] therapy for physical therapy,
occupational therapy, and speech therapy
[55:46] at their site. Uh they currently operate
in Creve Corore and they're relocating
[55:50] to etc which is great. Uh the next slide
uh kind of goes over the commission did
[55:55] review it and they motioned to recommend
to the council that the uh council
[55:59] consider and approve authorization of
the special permit. They use of course
[56:03] the comprehensive plan, our community
goals in their review. Uh we look at the
[56:07] principles for economic development and
our comprehensive update goals which is
[56:10] environmental sustainability investment,
crime prevention, native plantings and
[56:15] strategic redevelopment. And you can see
the check boxes as we go through in
[56:19] there to complete those boxes. Of
course, they are asking uh for some
[56:23] additional landscaping along the Dealman
Industrial Drive uh component, which is
[56:27] the west side uh when you enter from the
stop sign area uh to replace exterior
[56:31] wallpack lights with those compatible
with chapter 428, meaning that they're
[56:34] cut off facing down uh and there. And
then to limit the hours of operation
[56:38] from 7:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. That's done
in collaboration with the petitioner.
[56:42] And the concern was because it's a
pediatric facility just to make sure
[56:46] that uh they're not interrupting or um
throughout the evening or when we have
[56:51] industrial traffic.
On the next slide, mayor, if I can enter
[56:54] a couple of items just for the record.
Uh, our 2024 comprehensive plan update,
[56:58] including the 5-year economic
development plan, the Alvette municipal
[57:02] code and zoning map, uh, the staff
presentation and memorandum that was
[57:06] presented to the planning and community
design commission dated July 23rd, 2026,
[57:10] including the petition and supporting
plans and documents. Our public hearing
[57:14] notice, this is a public hearing. We
were required to post this 15 days prior
[57:18] uh to tonight and that was posted in the
the county in St. Louis County on August
[57:24] 10th, 2026. And you have a list of the
properties that were notified. Uh we did
[57:28] 300 ft which is above and beyond the 185
called by code. Uh and then this
[57:33] presentation before the city council.
So mayor, I'd be glad to answer any
[57:37] specific questions and then we do have
representatives here I'd like to
[57:40] introduce.
>> What's what was their current
[57:42] previously? what was who occupied? Uh it
was an engineering firm I believe was
[57:48] the last uh firm that was there
>> and it they're going to be if you don't
[57:52] mind going back to the uh overlay of the
office they're going to be doing
[57:55] outpatient
um I guess so patients come in and are
[58:00] seen there or is the expectation but
because these are these cubes I guess
[58:05] I'm just wondering where where that
occurs
[58:06] » kind of like shows the internal layout I
think there's going to be some changes
[58:09] and modifications I think that's what it
looks like right now uh in there so they
[58:13] haven't applied but but yes they do
one-on-one therapies with uh individual
[58:17] clients, pediatrics, of course. Uh in
there, probably a question that can
[58:21] better address than I could on the
description.
[58:24] » Um before we bring them up, other
questions people have or
[58:27] » I had the same question.
>> Yeah, I don't have it.
[58:30] » I had a question on the hours. So,
pediatric means all the way through 18,
[58:34] right? So, is the city limiting the
hours or is that something that SSM is
[58:39] choosing?
>> We talked with SSM about what hours and
[58:42] in there and that was within that range.
which I think they they close at 5:30.
[58:46] Something we can check with them again.
>> Okay. Okay.
[58:50] » And then I was just curious, I don't see
a landscape plan here yet, but um want
[58:54] to be clear about the area that this
business would be working,
[59:00] » like what part of the parcel they would
be working on to improve the landscaping
[59:05] and hopefully get some trees out there
and native plants, something other than
[59:09] just the turf. Um, and then also curious
if there's going to be any signage on
[59:16] that corner there or that little kind of
>> Mhm.
[59:21] » park that pokes out on the corner.
>> Um, if there's any kind of signage that
[59:26] they're
>> We can go one slide back. Uh, Miss Yak,
[59:30] uh, on the right hand side, you'll see
Deman Industrial Drive. That's where
[59:34] we're asking for some additional
landscaping to be placed in there with
[59:37] 50% of that being native. The one thing
along this corner both going north
[59:42] [snorts] you know where I'm when you're
looking at that right road you are going
[59:48] north to south uh on the left you're
going east to west uh on both portions
[59:54] of the road and you can see some of the
the the fiber indication there's fiber
[59:57] and underground utilities all running
through uh through there where I have
[1:00:02] the most excess of rightway believe it
or not is going to be on the western
[1:00:06] side this used to be an easement and
that's where I believe maybe that's why
[1:00:10] there was no sidewalk or landscaping uh
in place. When the city took over the
[1:00:13] roads, we took over just a significant
portion. A lot of times the parking
[1:00:18] would have been further back, we would
have more area for landscaping and and
[1:00:22] things of that nature. So, we're looking
here on the right hand side as you can
[1:00:25] go uh north to south that they do some
uh some additional landscaping uh in
[1:00:30] their trees to be careful. probably
preference would be more ornamental, but
[1:00:35] nothing that's going to be deeprooted
because they're going to there's
[1:00:38] continue a matter of fact uh there was
markings uh this morning again that
[1:00:42] somebody's running some type of fiber
optics or things uh of that nature. So,
[1:00:46] it continuously gets torn out, but we'd
like to get them more towards uh on the
[1:00:52] western or the eastern part of that hump
as you see in the the grading uh in
[1:00:57] there to kind of hide some of the
parking
[1:01:00] in there. We didn't look at the north as
they're kind of more facing towards
[1:01:04] Olive uh in there. But again, I know I
have a lot of uh
[1:01:09] utility stuff that runs uh underneath
and the sidewalk kind of extends more
[1:01:13] along that area uh in there, but it
could be discussion we can have with the
[1:01:17] property owner. In terms of signage, no
signage has been proposed.
[1:01:20] Traditionally, the signage has been uh
on the wall in there. I anticipate that
[1:01:25] they will continue to do so. I know
ImageNet, which is also located on that
[1:01:29] building at the far uh left end uh which
would be the eastern end of the building
[1:01:35] does have a monument sign at that back
corner. So if they do another one, they
[1:01:39] have to place it uh towards the other
apron uh in there. So I don't anticipate
[1:01:44] anything towards the front.
>> Okay. And my questions are twofold. One,
[1:01:50] obviously to increase our environmental
sustainability and to have plantings
[1:01:54] along that um area as much as possible
that not only are good for the
[1:02:00] environment but can also provide shade
um and reduce the heat on that um
[1:02:05] asphalt parking lot. Um, and then the
other piece with Oh, and safety as well
[1:02:12] because you're going to have kids in
that parking lot and obviously it's
[1:02:15] worst case scenario thinking that
somebody's jump going to jump the curb
[1:02:18] and go over, you know, that's obviously
worst case scenario, but any buffer
[1:02:22] » uh that we can put in there is a good
one. Um, and the same concern with
[1:02:26] safety for signage. Um just so that when
we've got parents who are looking for
[1:02:31] the facility that it's clear and we
don't have kind of that driving around
[1:02:36] trying to find it because it is you know
somewhat tucked down um
[1:02:42] back behind there just so that it's it's
clearly clearly seen and visible um for
[1:02:47] your visitors for your patients and
their families.
[1:02:50] » It's something we can look at and
discuss with it. And again, I just want
[1:02:53] to be clear in terms of the the two on
the first comp component of that, the
[1:02:58] sustainability aspect as we're looking
at some of the the plantings and the
[1:03:03] native species, the concern would be on
the trees being too too big in there
[1:03:07] because of the
>> uh because of the utilities that run on
[1:03:12] that north side. Now, right here where
the bench is set, there is more depth
[1:03:16] and I think it's the parking stall
length and we can talk with them if
[1:03:19] that's an area that they could do more
of the shade aspect of it as opposed to
[1:03:23] the decorative part component of it.
>> Yeah. And even if it was native bushes
[1:03:26] or something that it would help and put
that barrier
[1:03:30] » is the you know the white and orange
pole that you can see in the front of
[1:03:35] the picture but then also on that right
side there is that the marking for the
[1:03:39] fiber optic cable
>> one of the companies
[1:03:42] » I would assume it doesn't represent all
of the companies and then you can see
[1:03:45] the little square in there represents
somebody's vault
[1:03:49] » to get in in that space. So is the idea
being though that the general location
[1:03:54] of those lines is approximately on the
right side approximately the same as
[1:04:00] what we can see in the in the foreground
of the image
[1:04:03] » at least for the ones that are marked.
Yes.
[1:04:04] » Okay.
>> Yeah. And unfortunately they're usually
[1:04:08] about 2 feet below below grade which is
not much when you kind of think about
[1:04:12] it.
Okay.
[1:04:15] » Why don't we bring the petitioner?
you ask questions.
[1:04:28] » How are you?
>> Good. Hello.
[1:04:30] » My name is Lara Masters. I'm a regional
director for um SSM Health Cardinal
[1:04:34] Glenn and Pediatric Therapy. Thank you
for letting us be here today.
[1:04:39] » Happy to answer any questions.
>> And I'm Ann Hug. I'm the vice president
[1:04:43] of operations for the company.
>> Um yeah, I think the question we had is
[1:04:46] just the layout. it patients will be
seen in there and
[1:04:50] » is it is it just kind of open like your
counseling so it is cubes or is it
[1:04:54] actually like private facility or how
what what kind of things you know are
[1:04:58] happening usually
>> there'll be an open space like a gym for
[1:05:01] more like physical therapy but we we'll
probably have I mean I would say seven
[1:05:07] or eight individual treatment rooms that
are more where speech therapists would
[1:05:11] work with individual patient
>> so this is not necessarily what the
[1:05:15] layout
>> this is this is what it looks like now
[1:05:17] we to do something different with it.
Um, so where there'd be, you know,
[1:05:22] individual treatment rooms, again,
they're not big, but they're
[1:05:25] » Yeah,
and there Yep.
[1:05:28] » The treatment rooms will be around the
perimeter and the gym space would be in
[1:05:31] the middle.
>> Okay. For actual PT itself and things
[1:05:34] like that.
>> Yep.
[1:05:35] » Okay.
>> Will it be possible to have uh the
[1:05:39] drawing of how how you envision this?
it. I think it's just very helpful for
[1:05:43] us to actually have the drawing in front
of us as opposed to each of our brains
[1:05:48] kind of thinking what it might look
like.
[1:05:50] » I have I have we have a clinic that's
very similar in size in Ronnie's Plaza
[1:05:56] and I have that drawing that I can share
with you that we will use that that kind
[1:06:02] of design for this space. So I can I
would be would love to share that with
[1:06:06] you. bring that for the second reading
or for Carla M the Trey House has
[1:06:09] probably forward it to us
>> and this is eventually going to go to
[1:06:13] planning and zoning once if this is
approved and then they'll have the full
[1:06:19] sets of drawings and landscape plans and
things like that. Is that correct?
[1:06:24] » No.
>> No.
[1:06:26] » Oh yeah. I want to see it now.
>> No, it would be more regarding the use
[1:06:29] and the the operations of the use. The
the improvements would be internal uh in
[1:06:34] there. So that generally that would go
back to the commission for for review.
[1:06:38] Uh there was a code and the the number
of exits and the use is going to dictate
[1:06:42] what how that space
>> how people geointer currently is not
[1:06:46] necessarily our
>> in terms of landscaping. Yes, the
[1:06:48] commissioner was comfortable with it
administratively you know that as long
[1:06:51] as they submit some type of landscaping
uh in there and then set the condition
[1:06:56] of the 50% native.
>> Yes.
[1:06:57] » Uh in there gives us the guidance of
what they're looking for. Okay, I
[1:07:01] understand.
>> And that just be helpful if you send an
[1:07:03] example just so we can, you know,
visualize it. Appreciate it.
[1:07:07] » Like before the second, you' like
>> forward it to Mr. Trey, he can forward
[1:07:10] it to us and then we'll have it before
the second and just helps us visual.
[1:07:13] Again, it's your internal not ours. But,
uh, just that's where I was struggling.
[1:07:17] I'm like, I don't understand.
>> What is it? You know,
[1:07:20] » hey, I'm like, it's your your your
business,
[1:07:23] » you know.
>> Yeah. Thank you. But I do think having
[1:07:25] that information, you know, I know you
you have presented this to the PCDC a
[1:07:30] few months ago. Um, and so like the the
understanding that for a landscaping
[1:07:35] plan has been kind of out there for a
little bit. So it would be nice to see
[1:07:39] some movement towards getting a clearer
sense of what that is as well as what
[1:07:44] your layout internally is before the
second reading.
[1:07:48] » Okay.
>> So that we're really clear on what what
[1:07:50] we're approving. Um,
>> Sure. And I'm I'm thrilled to like my
[1:07:54] hesitancy is not anything about this
business or anything. I'm I think it's a
[1:07:58] good use. I think it's
>> um great uh to have this here and all of
[1:08:03] it. And I'd like to have a clear sense
of what we're approving before we
[1:08:07] approve it.
>> Sure.
[1:08:10] » All right. Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
[1:08:13] » Happy to be here. Thank you.
>> Did you have
[1:08:15] » Yeah, I had just one comment. U I'm Drew
Clary with Intel. I work with the
[1:08:21] landlord on this building. I just had a
a quick comment question on the the
[1:08:27] conditions of the landscaping. Um, so
Carlos mentioned there's some fiber
[1:08:31] optic optic cables that run on the
inside or just on the outside of the
[1:08:36] sidewalk. Um, there's there's a very
similar one just on the other side. You
[1:08:41] can't see it, but it's right there in
front of a manhole. Um, would it be
[1:08:46] beneficial at all if we did more
landscaping right where that park bench
[1:08:50] is
instead of along the the western
[1:08:54] barrier?
My view is more landscaping anywhere is
[1:08:58] good. Like so as many native or this
council is generally I won't speak for
[1:09:03] everyone but it's generally in favor of
native plants and beautifying and just
[1:09:06] adding sustainability. So um there's
many many ways to attack that. So I
[1:09:10] think um yeah, we have to be sensitive
to the cabling and not get in the way of
[1:09:14] utilities and trees and things like
that. So we're not in any way saying,
[1:09:17] "Oh, no, just put trees everywhere."
It's what are the best use of native
[1:09:20] plants sustainability that are
aesthetically looking that are good
[1:09:24] maintenance, you know, and see and and I
think it's just seeing what would look
[1:09:28] like.
>> Yeah. So we and just a couple couple
[1:09:31] thoughts on what we were planning on
doing to this building. So it's it's
[1:09:34] been under a new owner since about
October. Um, the building, I don't know
[1:09:38] if you've driven by it frequently, but
it looks very tired on the outside. So,
[1:09:43] the signage is all mismatched. Festive
is is on that corner. Their signs about
[1:09:47] this big, literally. Um, and so we're
trying to make the signage consistent.
[1:09:52] We trying to make it prettier, channel
cut lettering if available. Um, repaint
[1:09:56] the exterior of the building. We were
welcoming the light improvements. Um, we
[1:10:00] were planning on doing that anyway. Uh,
and so I was trying to get to an
[1:10:06] understanding of is it more
beautifification or is it more safety
[1:10:10] barrier now that you have a better
understanding of their hours of
[1:10:13] operation or is it a little bit of both?
Because I could probably do more
[1:10:17] landscaping
near the park bench, more in front of
[1:10:22] the building. I guess what I'm getting
at is I want to create the barrier. I
[1:10:26] want it to be pretty. I don't I I would
love to not do too much because we're
[1:10:29] going to make the building look a lot
nicer and I would hate for it to be
[1:10:32] obuscated
>> if we have hedges grow too tall. But
[1:10:36] I'll you know
>> that's nice to have not
[1:10:38] » at least from my perspective with the
landscaping you know it's it's
[1:10:42] addressing sustainability and aesthetic
purposes. Okay.
[1:10:46] » Um but with the sustainability piece you
know trees provide benefits a multitude
[1:10:51] of benefits. storm water control,
cooling, um biodiversity,
[1:10:57] uh and aesthetics. Yeah. Um as well. So,
and trees give you the biggest bang for
[1:11:03] your buck over time.
>> Mhm.
[1:11:05] » Low low maintenance generally too.
>> That is and it it is a triple net
[1:11:09] building and so increasing the
maintenance cost does get passed back to
[1:11:12] the tenants and
>> Yeah.
[1:11:14] » So, trying to find that happy medium.
>> I Yeah. And I I think again this is not
[1:11:18] a dictative. It's just a anywhere we
can, especially when we're approving new
[1:11:22] things, we're saying let's continue
sustainability goals. I'm less concerned
[1:11:25] about the safety. It's always a nice
thing, but at least there is also a
[1:11:28] ridge up, which is nice. It's a very
large area versus just a curb.
[1:11:32] » Um, but yeah, I think we just like to
see us continuing to grow and get more
[1:11:36] sustainable. So, but to your point,
>> you don't want to block the signage
[1:11:39] you're going to put up either. It's a
balance.
[1:11:41] » Yeah. Okay. I think we're on the same
page. we'll get you something has a
[1:11:44] really good sense of I think of
>> what we're
[1:11:47] » we've had these conversations in
multiple forms. So, um I think he's
[1:11:51] probably well equipped to advise on
that.
[1:11:54] » He has been you guys have always been
very helpful too. So,
[1:11:56] » what what color are you going to paint
the building?
[1:11:58] » That's a good question. Um
>> and are you going to paint? It looks
[1:12:03] like there's masonry.
>> No, right now our our thought was just
[1:12:07] the facade. Um but it's it's a it's
barely a thought. Are you are you
[1:12:13] familiar with what they did with the
cone elevator building just a little bit
[1:12:16] further down?
>> No.
[1:12:17] » It's probably it's right next to Stone
Fabricators and PK Construction, but if
[1:12:22] you look at the before and after of what
they did, they painted it white and blue
[1:12:25] accents. It looks incredible. So, it's
it's something that would be tasteful
[1:12:30] and nice and and not obnoxious, but if
if you go go look at it sometime this
[1:12:36] week, I mean, it's it's peeling. It's
just there's a light that's it just
[1:12:39] needs to be needs to be redone. So,
>> if you can kind of describe what that's
[1:12:44] going to be, you know, what color, what
what what you guys decide before the
[1:12:48] next reading, that would be great, too.
>> Yeah, we'll try and um put something
[1:12:52] together like that along with a
landscaping plan.
[1:12:55] » I could be wrong. These they're not
necessarily tied together, right?
[1:12:58] Because we're talking you're talking
about the entire building versus just
[1:13:00] this. So, good point.
>> Yeah, it wasn't a requirement on the
[1:13:03] PNC.
>> I don't want to stop this or makes
[1:13:05] sense.
>> Let's do both. Yeah,
[1:13:07] » I don't I don't want to encumber that or
but I just wanted to let you know of our
[1:13:11] plans anyway.
>> Appreciate it. It's good to know. I
[1:13:12] appreciate the unification. So,
>> of course.
[1:13:15] » Cool. All right.
>> Thank you.
[1:13:17] » Thank you. Other public comments?
>> No. All right. Anyone online?
[1:13:24] Anything else from the council?
>> No.
[1:13:27] » All right. We will go ahead and close
the public hearing then and then there
[1:13:31] will be a second reading of this bill on
September 8th. Thank you very much for
[1:13:35] coming. Appreciate it.
>> Thank you.
[1:13:38] » All right. Moving on to item 14. Bill
3071. Ask I'm going to ask for the title
[1:13:44] to be read.
Bill 3071, an ordinance authorizing a
[1:13:49] special permit use for New Blueprint
Partners LLC, owners of the property
[1:13:53] grounds addressed as 1220 North Price
Road to permit AIM field hockey to
[1:13:57] operate a 6,614
square foot enclosed recreational use
[1:14:02] within the tenants space addressed as
1220 North Price Road, Sweet 4. First
[1:14:05] reading and public hearing.
>> All right, I will go ahead and open the
[1:14:08] public hearing as well and another great
presentation.
[1:14:11] » Good evening, mayor. And just for the
record, my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm the
[1:14:14] director of planning and community
development for the city of Alvette. And
[1:14:17] tonight here I'm uh to discuss bill 3071
which is a special permit request for an
[1:14:23] enclosed recreational use at 1220 North
Price Road uh suite number four uh in
[1:14:28] that building. That is the same building
where we have Padel and Pickle uh on on
[1:14:33] the northern end and underneath Pedell
and Pickle is actually uh u
[1:14:39] beauty uh auto beauty specialists. I'm
sorry I can think of the name. And then
[1:14:43] right in the middle you have uh uh
door.com
[1:14:47] uh that that's located uh that kind of
wraps. And then this is a little corner
[1:14:51] piece that I'll show you more
specifically in a second. So if you go
[1:14:54] to the next slide, it is an old uh an
older building that was built uh I
[1:14:58] believe in the the 1960s. I didn't put
the date uh in there, but it's a 6acre
[1:15:03] lot with 134,000
uh square foot uh was considered of
[1:15:08] office manufacturing, warehousing, and
distilling uh that took place at one
[1:15:12] time. Now we have uh recreational use
with Pedel and Pickle uh storage with
[1:15:17] auto beauty specialists and then some
distribution and offices with locked uh
[1:15:21] with uh lock.com
or door.com uh on the site. the there's
[1:15:28] one more piece uh of the building that
is up for lease uh and it's roughly
[1:15:33] about 6,700 square ft² and that's where
you see the orange door there at the
[1:15:37] lower right hand corner uh is where
they're looking to take a a piece of
[1:15:42] that. It's very oddly configured because
over time as that property was improved
[1:15:47] they they did it in phases and pieces uh
in there and of course it was the old
[1:15:50] Southern Comfort Distillery uh that was
operating on that site. property grounds
[1:15:55] are zone LI light industrial district
and enclosed recreational uses and
[1:16:00] outdoor recreational uses are permitted
uses in the LI district but subject to a
[1:16:05] special permit meaning they're not
industrial but they can be compatible
[1:16:08] with a lot of the industrial uses that
we have there and of course I noted we
[1:16:11] have Pedel and Pickle on the site uh
just to the left of it you had the
[1:16:15] bridge uh facility um in there and then
we used to have the old town in tennis
[1:16:19] just down the block uh not too far from
where SSM was looking at the next slide
[1:16:25] We have a procedure for special permit
requests. It's a recommend review and
[1:16:29] recommendation by the council by the
commission. Uh they forward that to the
[1:16:33] council which holds a public hearing and
then has a action via an ordinance
[1:16:38] special permit process. We have a
procedure that's outlined within our
[1:16:41] ordinance that looks about looks at the
impact to it to limitations. Uh but
[1:16:46] always, you know, trying to see how we
can further our comprehensive plan uh
[1:16:49] goals and updates. And I'm sorry about
the lower left hand that should have
[1:16:53] been LI district uh in there on that
side. The next slide will kind of talk
[1:16:57] about general conditions of a special
permit. So what do we do is that we make
[1:17:01] sure it's listed in the district that it
first to go a comprehensive plan that
[1:17:05] the location is suitable to the
environment and surroundings. Sometimes
[1:17:07] it could be doing topography some
natural features is is the property flat
[1:17:12] is it hilly or or things of nature. Uh
are the improvements complimentary to
[1:17:17] the neighboring uses? Did they
demonstrate that they're mitigating any
[1:17:21] spillover effects that would adversely
impact the addition properties? And then
[1:17:25] of course the city has the authority to
require whether buffering aesthetic
[1:17:29] enhancements, designate areas for open
space, set limitations on operations,
[1:17:33] implement a schedule and that is you
know requiring things to happen over a
[1:17:37] certain amount of time and consider
adequacy of public services such as fire
[1:17:43] uh medical police type of services. The
next slide we'll get into the nuts and
[1:17:46] bolts. This is a corner of the building.
Again, this is 134,000 ft building. It's
[1:17:51] a big building. Um, they're taking this
uh kind of uh front view here where the
[1:17:58] orange door is, but not the whole thing.
It's just the on the left hand side, the
[1:18:02] the first two uh components where you
see the vertical uh things right there
[1:18:08] and then it kind of L-shapes and goes
back. So, you actually enter the
[1:18:12] building uh from from that gap between
where the cursor is and to the far left
[1:18:19] uh in there. There's a little cove
that's a little bit further back. Thank
[1:18:22] you, Miss Yaki. Uh in there where the
enter entrance is. And I'll show you a
[1:18:26] little bit more when we get into the
aerial view. The next slide will kind of
[1:18:30] show how that is set up. And again, uh
sorry, I'm using white on the white
[1:18:35] background. Uh, but you can see this
L-shaped layout kind of laid out onto
[1:18:39] the 134,000 foot building. You can see
that cove area in that cove area on the
[1:18:44] lefth hand side is the layout. There's a
66
[1:18:48] uh 6,60 ft uh of the building footprint
for uh the Ames indoor uh field hockey
[1:18:56] projects facility. Who is your your
petitioner? The next slide.
[1:19:02] What is being proposed? The operations
are it's a 6,600 foot women's indoor
[1:19:06] field hockey practice facility. In this
facility, the operations will include
[1:19:10] training, one-on-one coaching, office
operations, and then video productions
[1:19:15] that they use for uh uh for promoting
purposes for the uh for the individual
[1:19:19] athletes uh for schools and and things
of that nature. Uh next slide. Uh as we
[1:19:25] go through the PCDC, they went and they
reviewed it. Again they have a process
[1:19:29] to review it in accordance with uh our
ordinance in special permit uses and
[1:19:33] then also our comprehensive plan. Uh
when you look at economic development
[1:19:37] and investment, it also has its own
specific goals about environmental
[1:19:41] sustainability, investment, crime
prevention, uh native plantings and
[1:19:45] strategic redevelopment. So in their
review, the commission uh motioned that
[1:19:49] the council consider authorizing the
special permit through this ordinance.
[1:19:53] However, they also laid out the
following conditions. One is to limit
[1:19:56] the hours of operations from 7:00 a.m.
to 8:00 p.m. How do we get there? Again,
[1:20:00] that was a discussion with the
petitioner of what their operating hours
[1:20:03] would be. Uh, and there uh to replace
the exterior wallpack lights with uh
[1:20:07] those that are cut off and facing down
compatible with chapter 428 to do a tree
[1:20:12] health assessment and replacement plan
with 50% of those being native. There
[1:20:16] was several trees along the perimeter of
the the the site as itself. you know,
[1:20:20] different differentiating it from the
petitioner here. Uh, and there and some
[1:20:25] of them had been cut down and some of
them uh seemed like they they were not
[1:20:29] as healthy. And then to replace some of
the deteriorated fencing sections uh
[1:20:33] that were on the uh south side of the
property uh uh in there the next slide,
[1:20:40] mayor, if I can just enter a couple of
items into the record. Uh, one is our
[1:20:44] 2024 comprehensive plan update,
including our 5-year economic
[1:20:47] development plan, the Olivette municipal
code and zoning map, the staff
[1:20:51] presentation and memorandum presented to
the planning and community design
[1:20:54] commission dated July 23rd, 2026,
including the petition and supporting
[1:20:58] plans and documents. The public hearing
notice, of course, this is a public
[1:21:02] hearing. We're required to post this in
the county and St. Louis County. It was
[1:21:06] published on August 10th, 2026. And then
you have a list of the properties that
[1:21:09] were identified or notified uh regarding
that twice. Uh they get a postcard
[1:21:14] before it goes to the commission and
then they also get a public hearing
[1:21:18] notice uh prior to our meeting here at
council and then the presentation before
[1:21:22] council dated August 25th, 2026. I do
have representatives here in attendance,
[1:21:27] but I'd like be glad to answer uh
specific questions about the building
[1:21:30] and the operations.
>> I have questions mostly for the
[1:21:33] petitioner. So before we bring them up,
anyone have any questions for Mr. Tjo.
[1:21:38] » Yeah. So I uh my daughter actually took
lessons at Padel and Pickle. So I got to
[1:21:41] see the parking lot when they're when
it's gets a little bit busier.
[1:21:45] » It does it just want to make sure that
there are enough spots for all the
[1:21:48] tenants if this goes through. Especially
if you know there's a team or a couple
[1:21:53] of teams practicing, everyone drives in
their own cars.
[1:21:57] » End up with an extra with an extra 30
cars. [snorts]
[1:22:00] » Would that be enough space? And if not,
where would the overflow be?
[1:22:04] » Well, good question. Uh if you we can go
back to the aerial. I think it's about
[1:22:09] uh three on on this site. Well, one
[1:22:14] uh on this site. So you can see um
there's that center parking uh in in
[1:22:20] that area primarily used by by lock uh
door.com, excuse me. And their pedal and
[1:22:26] pickle uses part of that and then they
uh expanded their have the uh the
[1:22:30] parking facility there on the lower left
corner uh in there. and you see that
[1:22:35] that aisle in there. Uh they've always
wanted to expand in that green space,
[1:22:39] but then that would trigger MSD review
and and storm water. So, there's always
[1:22:42] that caveat that we have available
there. But then there's some additional
[1:22:46] parking on the far right end of the
building uh in there. It's kind of
[1:22:50] separate and independent, but they also
operate this. Yes.
[1:22:54] » To the f Okay,
>> that that area where the cursor is at.
[1:22:58] » Would would that be another entrance or
would people have to walk around?
[1:23:01] » They would have to walk around. They're
they're not in the way the in the
[1:23:06] original building everything was all
within within [snorts] reach. Now that
[1:23:09] things have been separated, yes, the
parking is all kind of uh disassociated
[1:23:13] with the with the spaces.
>> But it's always a good question. I mean,
[1:23:18] I always hear, you know, that's a lot of
parking. You know, do do they really
[1:23:22] need all that surface area? And you try
to balance that. Do they really have
[1:23:25] enough parking uh in there? You know,
from a planning perspective, there are
[1:23:30] in our code, there are some some
minimums. We go by minimums uh in there
[1:23:35] that they have to have a minimum amount
based on the type of activity that takes
[1:23:39] place. For recreational uses, it's based
on square footage. There's a simple
[1:23:42] calculation that we use to calculate
that. For the office, it's based on on a
[1:23:47] similar weight. Uh but then they're in a
match. And then our code allows us to
[1:23:52] provide some overlap. So if this use
needs this much parking, this use need
[1:23:56] needs this much parking, this use needs
this much parking, you can have some
[1:23:59] overlap that that some may come in at
night, some may come in during the day
[1:24:03] um in there. So it allows for that
process in there to help try to balance
[1:24:07] it uh in there. But again, it's, you
know, from a professional view, it's
[1:24:13] like I
I think if if people are unhappy with
[1:24:18] the parking, they're going to go
somewhere else to find a better facility
[1:24:21] that can accommodate them. And it
impacts the user in there. We want to
[1:24:24] keep these uses viable. We want to keep
our residents and and and the region
[1:24:29] coming to our our our location uh in
there, but this is a fine balance as
[1:24:34] opposed to having over parking. We had
the conversation when uh Murthy Health
[1:24:38] Systems was looking at the pharmacy and
we were asking can we get rid of parking
[1:24:42] spaces uh back there and it's tough
>> for this area specifically. I just want
[1:24:47] to make sure people are not parking
along the road or something like that.
[1:24:50] So, but that sounds plenty sufficient if
we have that lot in the back.
[1:24:55] » But a good question. I mean it's it's
one of the things we struggle with and
[1:24:59] finding that right mix, right balance.
Mhm.
[1:25:01] » Um, related to parking, I'm interested
in kind of hearing your perspective on
[1:25:06] the traffic flow on this lot. Just
recognizing that it has kind of an
[1:25:10] unusual
setup with the two entrances. Um, you
[1:25:15] know, it's not a cir circle drive, but
you know, kind of coming in from both
[1:25:20] sides. And then the extended part that
I'm assuming when this was more serving
[1:25:26] an industrial purpose um was set up for
truck loading and unloading. Um and I
[1:25:34] guess I'm just I'm curious in this
parcel recognizing how the uses have
[1:25:40] shifted um pretty significantly. Um,
other than Door, perhaps Door still uses
[1:25:47] the larger trucks for uh deliveries and
loading and unloading. I'm not sure. I'd
[1:25:53] be curious to know um if this current
traffic configuration
[1:26:00] is
the best um
[1:26:04] use of that space
um and or the safest use recognizing
[1:26:11] that you know for field hockey you'll
have parents driving but you my guess
[1:26:15] [clears throat] is potentially some of
the clients will be uh older
[1:26:20] kids young adults who are driving
themselves and aren't necessarily known
[1:26:24] for being the best drivers. Um, and
trying to trying to make that that
[1:26:31] particular area work in a way that um
it seems a little the setup as it is now
[1:26:39] is a little odd for the uses that are
being
[1:26:42] » No, it's a very good question.
>> Those buildings
[1:26:45] » in there a good question uh just on the
timing on on here. So, and and this is
[1:26:53] this is why it's a special permit. I
mean, we have seen our industrial parks.
[1:26:58] There's not much industrial going on in
those parks uh anymore. Uh we have seen
[1:27:04] the the the the road and all that. This
used to be all private. So, those dock
[1:27:09] doors all worked uh in there because
they were not under our jurisdiction uh
[1:27:14] and in place. Now, we've taken up those
spaces in there. And these buildings
[1:27:18] still are industrial buildings trying to
be retrofitted for uses that that were
[1:27:24] or you know that that were not designed
or or built. And that's why we go
[1:27:29] through these processes. You know, this
is the third time that I've been here
[1:27:33] just for this building. You know, we did
that for Paddle and Pickle. We did it
[1:27:36] for uh Auto Beauty to expand underneath
uh in there and then now we're doing it
[1:27:41] for the Ames indoor hockey uh in there.
You know, I couldn't give you a straight
[1:27:47] answer of is this, you know,
professionally, is this the ideal
[1:27:51] parking configuration? No. No, it's not.
This is what what I have to work with
[1:27:56] and what how it's put in place. uh
things that would I would would be ideal
[1:28:01] for that parking is to make it more
uniform and and uh
[1:28:07] you know uh polygono or or so but then
it triggers things because then you get
[1:28:13] rid of that green space and then MSD
gets involved in all that and then the
[1:28:16] cost of trying to retrofit these
buildings becomes more difficult um uh
[1:28:21] in there. I think it's something we have
to kind of look over time uh in there.
[1:28:28] We I'm not aware that that there's been
any incidents uh in the spaces, but we
[1:28:32] only have three of the four tenants in
in there right now. Uh with uh auto
[1:28:37] beauty, that's solely storage and those
are moved from just kind of back and
[1:28:40] forth uh with them. Pedal and Pickle,
you know, I know they have their their
[1:28:46] their their operation their times kind
of fluctuate over time and it's just
[1:28:50] going to be kind of looking at how that
mixture works between the two. The only
[1:28:53] constant is Door.com. We know who's
there during during the regular hours
[1:28:57] and then when when they leave uh in
there, it could be something that we
[1:29:01] could look at, you know, how are the
hours of operating working with with
[1:29:04] that over time. uh or you know talk
about how do we get more connectivity uh
[1:29:10] with some of the other spots in there
depends on when I go out there you know
[1:29:14] it's full and you can see uh to the left
on on the on the slide you know all that
[1:29:20] parking right there is bridge uh in
there and it was like when we were going
[1:29:26] through that we didn't anticipate you
know that volume um in that place but
[1:29:30] we've been fortunate that the mix of
that building has been you know kind of
[1:29:33] balances pretty well you don't go there
during the bridge time, you're going to
[1:29:37] get pretty good parking. If it's during
bridge time, yeah, you're you're you're
[1:29:40] kind of moving around trying to find a
space in there, but then they have a
[1:29:43] similar pattern where the parking wraps
around the building and then there's a
[1:29:47] whole another field on the north side uh
of it. So, yeah, I think there's enough
[1:29:52] spots. It certainly does meet our code.
Is it configured perfectly? No, it is.
[1:29:58] It it isn't. But I think we have to see
how we, you know, how these buildings
[1:30:02] kind of transition and how this parking
kind of works over time.
[1:30:07] » What the current hours for paddle and
pickle? Do you happen to know?
[1:30:12] » Not off hand. Uh I believe they do have
an early start like 6:00 a.m.
[1:30:19] » And paddle pickles where on here with
the curses are
[1:30:22] » Okay. So as you look Yeah, right there.
>> Okay. Thank you.
[1:30:26] » And they do actually use a parking lot.
That's where that blue truck, blue roof
[1:30:31] » right in that area.
>> Yeah. So that ends up being old parking
[1:30:34] too. Like
>> an old old picture then.
[1:30:37] » It's I don't know that it's marked right
now, but people just park there in a row
[1:30:41] and it's pretty organized.
>> Oh, okay.
[1:30:44] » I've seen it many times.
>> How crowded is it when you're if you've
[1:30:48] been there?
>> I think I mean from what I've seen, they
[1:30:52] only take up that wider part of the
parking. They don't even end up much on
[1:30:56] the pavement.
So,
[1:30:58] » okay.
>> So, it sounds like it there should be
[1:31:01] room.
>> Yeah. I mean, if we have that other
[1:31:03] parking lot on the far right, I mean,
that's overflow if needed. Yeah. It's I
[1:31:08] imagine it's also by hour times things
make difference
[1:31:11] » because I love this reuse.
>> Yeah. It's exciting
[1:31:15] » to these types of
>> and it draws people. They want to get
[1:31:19] dinner afterwards. They want to do
things like that. It's great
[1:31:22] » and it's unique to the community, right?
>> It's it's a great
[1:31:27] bring up the petitioner. So I have just
random questions. I'm curious more
[1:31:30] curiosity questions. So like
[1:31:37] » evening
>> evening. Thank you guys so much for your
[1:31:39] time with this and consideration. I'm
Lauren Kornweight, the founder and
[1:31:42] director of Aimfield Hockey. I've been
at this for 20 years and have a vision
[1:31:46] for for the next step. So
>> I'm Chris Paul now and I'm a
[1:31:51] representative for Lauren and the real
estate.
[1:31:53] » Great. Um I was curious two things.
hours only because again I feel like it
[1:31:58] might be different thinking about my
son's soccer and the private things like
[1:32:00] they easily do things till 10 o'clock at
night and so it's you're comfortable
[1:32:04] with the hours because it is light
industrial so we have a little bit of
[1:32:07] give so
>> I am comfortable with the hours a lot of
[1:32:10] um the you know during the day is going
to be just office use for we just have
[1:32:15] four of us in there so it's not like a
huge you know for parking or whatever um
[1:32:21] and then I am comfortable with the hours
it's going to be a lot of small group
[1:32:24] and private training and not like loads
of teams coming in that space.
[1:32:29] » Okay,
>> that helps. I'm also I guess I'm
[1:32:31] surprised too like your choice field
hockey, but you guys don't ever open it
[1:32:36] up to anything else like football or
other, you know, trainings. You just it
[1:32:40] only dedicates to field.
>> I mean, this is again we've been doing
[1:32:42] this 20 years and we just focused on
field hockey, but
[1:32:45] » it's a win. Okay,
>> great.
[1:32:48] » How many uh players are training at any
one time? Oh, thank you.
[1:32:53] » We'll we'll be looking at doing small
group. Well, some will be literally
[1:32:56] private one-on-one, but we'll be looking
at doing like 8 to 12 kids um training.
[1:33:02] » Yeah, that's right.
>> So, this is kind of a new concept, so
[1:33:06] it's a little bit unproved. Lawrence
kind of gone out on a limb here because
[1:33:10] all these indoor practice facility,
anyone who uses turf, they're all
[1:33:14] fighting over each other for Veta in the
different turf
[1:33:17] » areas. So, Lauren's still going to
utilize those spaces. This will be a
[1:33:21] complimentary facility for her where she
can do smaller group training
[1:33:26] one-on-one. She does a lot of
recruitment videos for college and
[1:33:29] things like that. So, it'll have like a
video production room.
[1:33:33] » Um, so it's not totally unknown. I think
she knows what she's gone through a
[1:33:38] heavy business plan. So, I think it's
going to be a great facility. And
[1:33:43] honestly, the um the previous meeting we
went to, they were like, "We think
[1:33:49] you're going to outgrow this facility
and need to go get a bigger facility."
[1:33:51] So, it's going to it's a new concept in
the indoor space. There's no one else
[1:33:55] doing it. We're excited about it. We're
happy to be in Alvette. This is a great
[1:33:59] location. The property is well lit and
it's a safe neighborhood. At night, the
[1:34:04] all the other businesses are in the
afternoons, they'll be winding down on
[1:34:07] their business where she'll be picking
up from when kids get out of school
[1:34:11] until the evening hours. So I think it's
complimentary and then a lot of the
[1:34:15] parents when they drop their kids off
they can go support the other businesses
[1:34:19] in the community or go over to pet pedal
and pickle and make reservations and so
[1:34:23] maybe that helps from the parking
standoint as well.
[1:34:26] » Could I address just your question
earlier also um we serve like
[1:34:32] three-year-olds to 18y olds so 90% of
our clients are are parent drivers. Um,
[1:34:39] we do have some, you know, the 16, 17,
18 year olds and I do understand your
[1:34:43] question with that, but it's that's
going to be a small percentage.
[1:34:47] » I do imagine you will do quite well
because I can imagine a lot of people
[1:34:50] that's why I asked about other sports
because the recruitment as my son's
[1:34:53] going through that kind of thing right
now. It's um a space where you could do
[1:34:57] that privately and get that and have
video. I question do you plan maybe you
[1:35:00] don't because the size isn't like food.
You're not selling food. We're not No,
[1:35:04] we don't have like a grillin bar or
anything like that. think like a veta or
[1:35:08] something like that. Okay.
>> You don't want any part of that.
[1:35:11] » I don't want to venture into that.
>> I understand. I just wanted to check.
[1:35:14] So,
>> all right.
[1:35:17] » Yeah. I think it's a very exciting use.
I love to see the building repurposed um
[1:35:22] and and especially providing something
that's unique um and sounds like a
[1:35:28] really great market to address. Um,
and yeah, my my concerns really are more
[1:35:35] about the building and the kind of weird
driving situation that exists. I don't
[1:35:40] have any concerns about the business
other than the potential that you will
[1:35:44] be more successful and uh outgrow this
space too quickly.
[1:35:50] So, we are in a little bit of a So, when
we negotiated this deal on the building,
[1:35:56] the there was a new buyer coming in for
the building, which is the Bluepoint or
[1:36:00] whatever LLC that's on the agenda for
this evening. It is kind of an emergency
[1:36:06] situation. and Lauren got busy in the
spring and we burned some time and then
[1:36:10] we realized when we went to permits that
we figured pedal and pickle and it
[1:36:15] wasn't talked about with the previous
lawn lords on the use that we didn't fit
[1:36:18] within the light industrial without a
special use permit. So now we're in a
[1:36:22] situation where construction's been
delayed. So really what we're trying to
[1:36:26] achieve is to get this thing off center
because it's she's a small business and
[1:36:32] she's got time burning on at least right
now and we're confident we can get
[1:36:35] through this with you guys and make the
compromises needed to make sure everyone
[1:36:39] in the city is happy with the use. But
it's kind of like we need I think what
[1:36:44] Carlos suggested is that we need to have
it as an emergency so we can get a first
[1:36:48] and second reading. So whatever
accommodations
[1:36:51] Yeah. So we we kind of would like to see
if we can move this forward this evening
[1:36:59] if you guys would be open to that.
>> Don't know from policy how that works in
[1:37:03] terms of because because we have to post
agendas
[1:37:06] » start the review of the uh the permit
plans with them uh and then that's
[1:37:10] something we can offer
>> to move I'm sorry
[1:37:13] » to kind of facilitate and start the the
permit review the the building permit
[1:37:17] plans before the council authorizes. So,
it's a risk we take, but it's something.
[1:37:22] » Yeah. And I think if it sounds like
they're willing to work, so I think that
[1:37:25] makes sense to start early. We can't
authorize until the second reading, but
[1:37:28] I think that gets you forward versus
waiting to the second reading then to do
[1:37:32] that, right? So, it keeps us on track,
if that makes sense. So,
[1:37:35] » what is the policy? Can we do a first
and second reading on one day?
[1:37:39] » I don't know how we can do that.
>> Technically, you can. Um, it was not
[1:37:43] advertised on the agenda that you were
going to vote on it this evening. So, um
[1:37:48] that would have been useful, but uh
technically you could you need to vote
[1:37:53] as a council. Someone needs to make a
motion to hold the second reading this
[1:37:58] evening and then you need to vote on
that motion and then you would be um you
[1:38:03] could then vote um on the
[1:38:10] » vote.
Correct.
[1:38:14] And I guess though, Carlos, does it
speed us up that much? Because the
[1:38:16] plans, how long is it going to take you
guys to work through that?
[1:38:19] » Takes about right now we're about 15
days out for review comments.
[1:38:24] » Okay. So, if you start working with them
immediately, it's going to be 15 15 days
[1:38:27] anyway. And so, to me,
>> it's going to be two weeks before we
[1:38:31] vote on this again, right?
>> And so, I I don't think it's going to
[1:38:34] change anything anyway. And I'd rather
if we didn't need to um if it was going
[1:38:38] to dash but so I think starting as soon
as we can on just review to help them
[1:38:41] out would be great if
>> it's something we can do without you
[1:38:43] with or without the
>> okay before the only concern is in it
[1:38:47] was my understanding in the past it it
sets a precedent and then they're always
[1:38:51] asking us the staff you know about
>> yeah I think I think it's understood and
[1:38:56] so we need to be careful on that and not
and not uh so recognizing that there's a
[1:39:01] need to burn and we really excited about
the reuse of the building so you know
[1:39:04] open to that. But, uh, it's a good call
out. Um, signage. Oh, sorry.
[1:39:08] » I would be comfortable if we entertained
a second rating tonight. Does how does
[1:39:14] anybody else feel?
>> I mean, if it if it's going to
[1:39:20] if it's going to expedite helping them
move forward faster, I'm okay with it.
[1:39:24] But if it's not going to make any
difference, stick to what we're doing
[1:39:27] now.
>> Yeah, that's generally I mean, I I
[1:39:29] wouldn't be totally objecting to it
except it does set precedent for us,
[1:39:33] too. Um, and it doesn't sound like it's
going to accelerate at this point in the
[1:39:37] period.
>> And I say leave everything the way it
[1:39:38] is, but it might help Carlos so he
doesn't get
[1:39:42] » Well, it's one of these where one way or
the other we're establishing a tricky
[1:39:46] precedent.
>> Yeah. Um, I I feel more comfortable with
[1:39:50] Carlos working with the petitioner on
the building permit side of things than
[1:39:57] making a decision in the middle of a
council meeting to adjust our processes.
[1:40:02] Um, that we we were not prepped for
ahead of time to do something like that.
[1:40:07] And I think adjusting something like
that in in a council meeting at itself,
[1:40:12] I I don't feel comfortable with that.
Yeah, I kind of need to I guess Carlos
[1:40:18] the question for you is or Mr. is it any
concerns from you moving forward on your
[1:40:22] side sooner than later?
>> No, I mean they started off with permit
[1:40:26] plans. So I think they're they're they
should have the contractor is here uh in
[1:40:31] » I don't want to put you guys in a bind
either if that's something that you guys
[1:40:34] can't staff timing or anything like that
either. So that would
[1:40:37] » correct but I think we can coordinate
and get that that okay you know that
[1:40:40] first round going
>> if you guys are good we'll have move
[1:40:42] forward that way. I think it'll end
about the same time either way and I I
[1:40:45] would agree with Chairman Bam on that.
>> So, realistically, when would the second
[1:40:49] reading be?
>> ETH.
[1:40:51] » ETH. Okay. Okay. Okay.
>> And signage for the building. I don't
[1:40:54] know if we covered that. I apologize.
>> I would say on the signage, Lauren and I
[1:40:59] have talked about it. It would go if you
go forward a couple, you can see the
[1:41:03] orange door.
[1:41:08] » Oh, wrong way.
We could put a sign there to
[1:41:11] » Yeah, you could put a big arrow.
>> So I think in Lauren I it as long as it
[1:41:17] hasn't changed. Her plan was to put AIM
above that loading door
[1:41:22] um on that orange panel right there.
>> But the loading door is not you're not
[1:41:26] using that door as an entrance.
>> No.
[1:41:29] » Okay.
>> And just to so you guys understand, this
[1:41:32] space only accounts for about 2% of the
entire building. And um the the way this
[1:41:38] space lays out, the entry will be on the
other side of that orange door, but
[1:41:42] directly on the other side of the space.
So that'll be the main entry point.
[1:41:45] You're not going to be entering from the
price side. But the way it's laid out
[1:41:49] and the previous owner, they were
basically talking about mothballing that
[1:41:54] space because it's laid out so
inefficiently for really any other use
[1:41:58] than recreational or special use. So
just because it's hard to get into stuff
[1:42:04] on the right side of this drawing which
used to be a rail loaded is really tired
[1:42:08] space that you know frankly Lauren's
spending a lot of money that she's
[1:42:13] investing into the space herself rather
than landlord and the other space that
[1:42:16] Lord loading dock comes up and it makes
a 90 degree turn. So I mean this is
[1:42:21] really it sat for a long time where they
almost said let's just forget about
[1:42:26] leasing it and move on. So, all reason
exciting to reuse it.
[1:42:29] » Yeah.
>> Wish you the best of luck. So,
[1:42:32] » we'll move forward then. Um, any other
questions from council?
[1:42:37] » Uh, does anyone in the public have
questions to ask?
[1:42:40] » I just had one quick one.
>> Come on up.
[1:42:45] » So, I did represent the landlord when we
signed this lease. Um,
[1:42:50] is there is there not have is there not
more of a or less of a pre precedent to
[1:42:56] have a second reading at the council
meeting, first reading and second
[1:43:00] reading, and to do the drawings early?
>> Do you guys normally have you never done
[1:43:03] the second reading?
>> It's not that we've never done it. My my
[1:43:06] concern is that everything we do
generally we need to give the notice to
[1:43:09] the public so they expect what what
we're voting on, what we're talking
[1:43:12] about, which is why we can't bring up
random topics and discuss them and just
[1:43:15] forget at a given time. Um, and so it
sets that precedent that we could do
[1:43:20] something and then people get upset that
like you did something without letting
[1:43:22] us know. I would have come and spoken. I
would have objected. I would have
[1:43:25] brought something up.
>> Whereas this, while we usually staff
[1:43:28] would not usually work with you until
it's put forward,
[1:43:32] » we recognized this is going to go
forward. So staff working with you now,
[1:43:35] I think puts us in the exact same spot
at the end of the day. So
[1:43:38] » Gotcha.
>> Yeah.
[1:43:39] » Yeah. When we when we signed the lease,
we figured um and I actually remembered
[1:43:43] it at the end, but when we did the
paddle and pickle deal, I thought we had
[1:43:47] a special use permit athletic for the
whole building and it was specific to
[1:43:50] their use. So,
>> I want them to get going as soon as
[1:43:54] possible.
>> Me, too. Trust me. So, I I think this
[1:43:56] will end up that's why our question of
if it's going to be 15 days, if it's
[1:43:59] going to take that long anyway, we'll
approve it in 14 days. Hopefully, it's
[1:44:02] done. We're at the same spot. If that
was not the case, I'd be much more
[1:44:05] willing to entertain at this point. So,
>> well, I appreciate your time. No, thank
[1:44:09] you. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Thank you. Anyone online?
[1:44:12] » You know, the only drawback is that I've
been frequenting Paris Baguette ever
[1:44:17] since discovering this place. So,
>> yeah. Good with the bad, right? You
[1:44:21] know, so
>> thank you.
[1:44:24] » Thank you. All right. Anyone online?
Questions, comments? All right. I will
[1:44:29] close the public hearing.
All right. And then we'll have it the
[1:44:32] second reading on the 8th. Thank you
very much.
[1:44:34] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[1:44:36] » Okay. Move on to item 16.
Uh, surface transportation we will be
[1:44:41] blocked. I will have you read it. How
about that?
[1:44:46] » Or do I?
>> Yes, sir.
[1:44:48] » Did I miss Oh, I passed bill. I
apologize. Just kidding. Item 15, Bill
[1:44:53] 3072. If we can have the title right,
please.
[1:44:56] » Bill 3072, an ordinance to amend section
405.460, 460 condominiums, plats, and
[1:45:02] additional requirements being part of
the subdivision code of the city of
[1:45:05] Alvette. Chapter 405, subdivision
regulations of title 4, land use of the
[1:45:10] Alvet municipal code to allow for both
residential and non-residential
[1:45:13] condominium plats and additional
requirements. First reading and public
[1:45:17] hearing.
>> All right, we'll open the public hearing
[1:45:19] on bill 3072 and presentation, please.
>> Uh, chairman, just for the record, my
[1:45:24] name is Cardinal Stro. I am the director
of planning and community development
[1:45:27] with the city of Alvette. Uh and this is
a tax amendment. So unlike uh having the
[1:45:31] site plan and illustrations all the
pretty pictures uh and there we're
[1:45:35] looking to amend our subdivision code
specifically the section referring to
[1:45:39] condominiums plats and additional
requirements. The next slide will show
[1:45:42] the the specific section and the changes
in that is to remove the references to
[1:45:46] multif family or anything residential.
Uh what this does it gets us more
[1:45:51] consistent with the condominium act. You
see there reference of chapter 448 the
[1:45:55] revised statutes of Missouri. They kind
of say that we we really can't hold a uh
[1:46:00] a distinction in terms of condominiums
whether they're residential or
[1:46:04] non-residential that they can be applied
to buildings a building replace or the
[1:46:08] sale of the building uh and they're I'm
hoping I address that correctly with and
[1:46:14] there and we're just getting our code
more consistent with the state.
[1:46:17] » This is what most other cities in
>> that is correct.
[1:46:20] » Correct. Okay.
>> Does that also apply to like industrial
[1:46:23] or office space as well? Yeah.
>> Good. I'm surprised the word condominium
[1:46:27] doesn't mean living dorms doile, but you
learn something new every day.
[1:46:34] » Is there any uh with the word
subdivision in there, does that does
[1:46:39] that word imply one thing or another?
I'm not sure what a you know, a
[1:46:42] condominium as a building versus a
condominium subdivision.
[1:46:48] » Condominium is a form of subdivision.
And so I think when you go through
[1:46:50] chapter 405 and go through the the
definition sections that's where that
[1:46:55] that term subdivision is refer
representing both a process and then a
[1:47:00] product of that process too. I think
that's what where the that you're trying
[1:47:04] to address
>> feels similar the word dwelling but you
[1:47:07] again I don't care I trust if this is
what this
[1:47:09] » the code's going towards and it gets us
clear of that that makes sense.
[1:47:14] » All right questions from the council.
Anyone in the public online would like
[1:47:19] to speak to this?
>> I think there are some items that record
[1:47:24] through our 2024 comprehensive plan
update, the municipal code and zoning
[1:47:29] map uh the staff presentation and
memorandum to the plan commission dated
[1:47:33] July 23rd, 2026. In that presentation
and and that is part of your link uh in
[1:47:38] your staff memo, uh there are references
to what other communities had uh in
[1:47:42] there, what they they were all doing,
all of them being consistent. uh this
[1:47:46] public hearing notice because this is a
public hearing and it was posted in the
[1:47:49] county in St. Louis County on August
10th, 2026. And then we did not have a
[1:47:54] list of addresses, so I'm sorry I didn't
take that off uh there and then this
[1:47:58] presentation before the commission.
[1:48:02] Any other questions from council?
>> All right. Anyone online?
[1:48:08] » Yep. We will close the public hearing
and the second reading will be on
[1:48:12] September 8th. Thank you, mayor.
>> Thank you.
[1:48:16] » All right,
moving on to item 16, surface
[1:48:20] transportation block grant agreement
with Missouri Highways and
[1:48:23] Transportation Commission for the North
Price Phase One Grant Project.
[1:48:27] » Good evening, Mayor.
[1:48:31] » Good evening, mayor and council members.
Again, Bruce McGregor, public works
[1:48:34] director. Um back in January uh work
session, we discussed our second uh
[1:48:40] application for a surface transportation
suballocated grant for North Price Road
[1:48:47] section one or phase one old bottom road
to uh Delmare. It's a little over 2,100
[1:48:53] linear feet. We had applied the previous
year and and didn't score high enough.
[1:48:58] So we made some strategic amendments to
our application and uh basically
[1:49:03] offloaded some of the uh engineering
work out of the grant as the city
[1:49:08] responsibility to try to meet a
threshold to score more points which is
[1:49:13] one of the criteria used when the uh
committee is reviewing the uh the grant
[1:49:18] applications. Uh so we found out a
little bit earlier by looking at the
[1:49:23] agendas for the uh commission at East
West Gateway that we were on the
[1:49:27] recommended list and then a couple weeks
ago we got a formal notice from uh MDOT
[1:49:33] from the local projects uh administrator
that we were on the list for the uh
[1:49:39] meeting this week for award approval and
that they recommended uh to hit the
[1:49:45] ground running that we present our uh
the agreement to council for a
[1:49:48] pre-authorization
uh to uh to uh execute the agreement
[1:49:54] should the uh board uh go ahead and do
the expected uh you know decision this
[1:50:00] week. Uh be glad to answer any questions
about the project, the timing, um next
[1:50:06] steps, what we've already completed,
anything like that.
[1:50:11] » Excited about it.
>> Yeah.
[1:50:12] » Yeah.
>> Good snooping.
[1:50:15] » Yeah. And just FYI as well, uh, since
Amron had been so busy there, we've
[1:50:20] received notice for them that they've
done all of the energizing work on the
[1:50:25] circuits, uh, they may be coming back
into town over the next few months,
[1:50:30] removing some obsolete cable uh, from
the runs, but everything is in service
[1:50:35] uh, for that uh, load balancing or load
relief project uh, for the distribution
[1:50:41] in University City and Leoo uh, just
since it's in that same area that that
[1:50:45] project is done. Uh there
>> so if we were to get final approval for
[1:50:50] this, I think this is question in
everyone's mind. When would this project
[1:50:54] be realistically done?
>> Well, so that's a a very fair question.
[1:50:59] What we have done uh last year uh we had
committed to doing the survey. Uh this
[1:51:05] year what we had began we began in last
budget year which is in the spring was
[1:51:09] the design work. Uh our intent is to
have our what what they call an RE
[1:51:16] request for environmental review. So
that is a uh a submitt that goes to
[1:51:21] Jefferson City to basically clear any
environmental impacts we have and that
[1:51:26] might be more than just like hazardous
materials but like native people or some
[1:51:31] other social economic uh impacts uh
along with uh ecology as well. You know
[1:51:37] are we displacing any bats? The biggest
unknown we have is rightaway
[1:51:42] acquisition. So, we have a 40-way
rightway width. We want to maximize our
[1:51:48] existing condition of two sidewalks,
right? One on either side. Uh we want to
[1:51:53] have a safe roadway for motorists and
for cyclists. And we still want to have
[1:51:59] that appearance that's, you know, I
think feels softer to us, which is a
[1:52:02] tree lawn. So to accomplish all that and
relocate utilities and and other things,
[1:52:08] we need at minimum a temporary
construction easement for grading uh
[1:52:14] from probably all of the uh property
owners along the alignment. Okay. So um
[1:52:22] once we start through this process and
get the rear submitted, we'll be
[1:52:26] planning public meetings. Um we'll be
getting the word out, maybe going
[1:52:31] doortodoor. Um, every time I walk around
with a vest with the engineer and we're
[1:52:35] looking at conditions, you know,
interested parties come out. So many
[1:52:39] folks are quite excited about it. But,
you know, once you start talking about
[1:52:43] changing, you know, the side of your
house, people, you know, can start to
[1:52:47] question things. So, um, we always hope
that we don't get to condemnation. We've
[1:52:53] done it before. And on the old bottom
project, I think we submitted the final
[1:52:58] court documents 2 or 3 days before our
grant expired uh which was uh almost $2
[1:53:04] million for that project. So um we hope
we never get there again uh on there. So
[1:53:11] that's our biggest announcement. So So
the long story short, we would hope to
[1:53:16] be doing construction for the schedule
in 3 years. Um I'm hoping we can be
[1:53:21] ahead of that. Um, I'm optimistic that
our residents will be enthusiastic.
[1:53:26] We'll have a nice design, um, and we'll
be able to start the negotiation sooner
[1:53:31] in the involvement and, you know, get
everybody signed off on. So any type of
[1:53:36] um federal grant or grant run through
MODOT requires the city to do a lot more
[1:53:43] um work and there are a lot more steps
that need to be taken than if we were
[1:53:50] just doing a regular street project,
right? And so that is why it requires a
[1:53:55] lot more time. Uh realistically, you
know, I would tell people three to four
[1:53:59] years. Give yourself a little uh leeway
because it's not just us that has to do
[1:54:04] the work. Um
when we do rideway acquisition, we do
[1:54:10] all of that and then MDOT has to go
through and approve all of that and we
[1:54:14] can't get started on the next step till
we finish right away. And then plans,
[1:54:18] MDOT has to approve all of that. So
there's a lot of kind of us doing a lot
[1:54:22] of work and then waiting on others and
then doing a lot of work and waiting on
[1:54:26] others. So if you want to give um give
your constituents kind of a realistic
[1:54:30] answer, 3 to four years.
>> We have the same concerns of
[1:54:34] hypothetically a gas line that isn't
marked where
[1:54:37] » Yeah. And and and one of the challenges
is like what we ran into on the cost
[1:54:41] share project is the area team meets
once a week. So and we aren't privy to
[1:54:47] the meeting. So they meet, they review,
they ask a question. Well, then we have
[1:54:51] a week to respond and then they ask
another question and then we have
[1:54:55] another week to respond. So, you know,
it's not like we can make these
[1:54:59] decisions on the fly. Um, and it so so
so that's exactly right. And and we have
[1:55:06] we follow and we do everything by the
rules anyway, but we we have extreme
[1:55:11] oversight on rightway acquisition
following what's called the Uniform Act.
[1:55:15] Okay. It is uh designed to protect the
property owner, you know, and make sure
[1:55:20] that everything is done, everything is
properly appraised, every opportunity is
[1:55:25] given for the the owner to review and
sign off on, you know, without being
[1:55:30] coerced. So, I mean, I always feel good
that I know we did the right thing. You
[1:55:34] know, we always appraise everything. We
sometimes we get second opinions. We did
[1:55:38] that on the cost share project because
we wanted to make sure it was such a big
[1:55:42] acquisition that we were doing the right
thing and everything was being fair uh
[1:55:47] you know for oversight.
>> So to answer your question are we going
[1:55:50] to find something unexpected? Yes.
>> And it could be something positive
[1:55:55] unexpected. It might not be something
positive. it. Who knows?
[1:55:59] » Um,
>> one of the most positive that's ahead.
[1:56:02] » Um, I don't know. Could be we need fewer
ride ofway than we thought, right? Yeah.
[1:56:08] Um, there will almost always be
something unexpected.
[1:56:11] » Yeah.
>> All right. Fun times.
[1:56:13] » All right. Any other questions? And
anyone want to make
[1:56:18] » uh make a motion to authorize the city
manager to execute an STBG agreement
[1:56:24] with the Missouri Transportation
Commission for the North Price Road
[1:56:29] phase 1 project contingent upon final
award approval.
[1:56:34] » Second.
>> All right. Motion made second. Can we
[1:56:36] please pull the council?
>> Council member Dragal.
[1:56:40] » Yes.
>> Council member Solomonov.
[1:56:41] » Yes.
>> Council member Clark.
[1:56:43] » Yes.
>> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
[1:56:45] » Yes. Mayor Lewis.
>> Yes.
[1:56:46] » Motion has passed.
>> Thank you very much.
[1:56:48] » Thank you very much. Good luck.
>> Excited.
[1:56:51] » All right. Item 17, hearing from
citizens part two. Does anyone in the
[1:56:56] audience or online wish to make a
comment?
[1:57:02] » We're looking at one person.
>> Yeah, one person. All right, we'll move
[1:57:05] on to item 18, review and acceptance of
minutes. Uh, anyone have any corrections
[1:57:09] or notes to call out on the minutes?
>> All right. If not, I'll take a motion to
[1:57:14] approve.
>> I'd like to make a motion to approve the
[1:57:17] council minutes from uh August 11th,
2026.
[1:57:20] » Second.
>> All right. Could we please pull the
[1:57:22] council?
>> Council member Juel,
[1:57:25] » yes.
>> Council member Solomonov,
[1:57:27] » yes.
>> Council member Clark,
[1:57:28] » yes.
>> Chairman Prom Halman,
[1:57:30] » yes.
>> Mayor Lewis,
[1:57:31] » yes.
>> Motion has passed. All
[1:57:33] » right. Thank you. We'll move on to item
19, city attorney's report.
[1:57:36] » No report this evening.
>> All right. But we do have a close
[1:57:39] session.
>> Yep. Okay. All right. Right. Moving on
[1:57:42] to item 20, close session. So, can I
please get a motion to go into close
[1:57:46] session?
>> Like to make a motion go into close
[1:57:48] session pursuant to the revised statutes
of the state of Missouri. Discuss
[1:57:54] client, excuse me, attorney client
privileges, communications pursuant to
[1:57:58] section 610.021
and real for and real estate matters
[1:58:04] pursuant to section 610.0212.
[1:58:10] » All right. All right. Do I hear a
second?
[1:58:11] » Second.
>> Please pull the council.
[1:58:15] » Council member Lewis. I'm sorry. This is
this is the wrong one. Council member
[1:58:21] Duel.
>> Yes.
[1:58:22] » Council member Solomon.
>> Yes.
[1:58:23] » Council member Clark.
>> Yes.
[1:58:25] » Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.
>> Yes.
[1:58:27] » Mayor Lewis.
>> Yes. All right. We will now close this
[1:58:30] regular session and move into executive
floor session.
[1:58:36] » All right. We'll call the we'll close
the executive session and call the
[1:58:39] regular session back to order. Um no
major decisions were made uh at this
[1:58:45] point. Um
>> I'll make a motion to adjurnn
[1:58:48] » and we will Yeah, we will adjourn at
9:45 p.m. Thank you.