[11:03] Good evening. I'd like to call tonight's meeting to [11:07] order. It's August 25th, 2026. Welcome and thank you for joining us for [11:13] tonight's meeting of the Orinda Planning Commission. [11:17] In the back of the room, there is a table where you can find copies of [11:20] tonight's agenda as well as staff reports for the items [11:24] that will be heard tonight. On the same table, you will find request to speak [11:29] cards. If you would like to speak to the commission this evening, please fill out [11:34] a speaker card and place it in the speaker card tray at the table up front. [11:40] If you are an applicant or the applicant's agent, you do not need to [11:44] complete a speaker card. Once we begin the public hearing portion [11:49] of the meeting, each item will be announced with a brief description of [11:52] what is being proposed. After any general questions to the [11:56] commission, the staff uh [12:00] After any general questions by the commission to the staff, the hearing [12:05] will be opened and the applicant will be given 10 minutes to present their [12:09] project. If you are the applicant, at the [12:12] beginning of your presentation, please let me know how much of your 10 [12:17] minutes you would like to reserve for any rebuttal. [12:21] After the presentation by the applicant, the public hearing will be opened and [12:26] anyone wishing to speak to the commission on this item will be invited [12:30] to do so. When your name is called, please come to [12:34] the speaker podium at the front. Each speaker will have 3 minutes to [12:40] speak. Once everyone wishing to speak has made [12:44] their comments, the public hearing will then be closed [12:47] and we will bring the matter up to the commission for discussion and [12:52] decision. If you will be speaking to us this [12:55] evening, please be sure to make all of your comments when you come to the [13:00] podium. As a courtesy to all comments made from [13:03] the audience during testimony or commission deliberation will not be [13:07] allowed and will not be included as part of this public record. [13:11] At the conclusion of the hearing, the commission's options will be to approve, [13:17] continue, or deny a project application. Now, I will proceed with roll call and [13:24] confirm certain matters for the record. I would like to note that Commissioners [13:29] Armstrong, Doctors Hubner, Marola, Oblinski, and Smith are in attendance. [13:41] Item B, the adoption of the agenda. Planning Director, are there any [13:44] proposed changes to the agenda? >> I have none. [13:49] » Hearing none, I would like to move forward with tonight's agenda. Do I have [13:52] a motion? >> So moved. [13:55] » Do I have a second? >> Second it. [13:57] » We'll give that to Hubner. >> [laughter] [14:00] » It's not a race. >> All those in favor say I. [14:04] » I. >> I. [14:05] » I. The motion passes unanimously and we [14:08] have an agenda. Item C is the public forum. [14:13] The first item on tonight's meeting agenda is the public forum, [14:17] which is an opportunity for you to address the Planning Commission on items [14:21] that are not listed on tonight's agenda. Is there anyone who would like to [14:26] address the Commission on an item that is not on the agenda? [14:31] I see no one in the audience. >> No public comments. [14:35] » And no one online. We'll move on to item D, the consent [14:40] calendar. The consent calendar is a portion of the agenda that consists of [14:46] items that are acted on in one motion unless a commissioner or member of the [14:51] public requests that the Commission remove the item from the consent [14:57] calendar for discussion. By approval of the consent calendar, the staff [15:02] recommendation will be adopted. If the item is removed from the consent [15:06] calendar, the Commission will follow the procedures described in the agenda for [15:11] new public hearings. May I have a motion to approve the [15:15] consent calendar as a pro- as proposed or would someone I'd remove an item. [15:24] » Move to approve the consent calendar. >> Second. [15:27] » Thank you. We have Hubner and Smith. Uh motion and a second. All in favor, [15:33] say aye. >> Aye. [15:34] » Aye. >> Aye. [15:35] » Aye. The motion passes unanimously. [15:40] Item E, policy matters. Uh we don't have a report tonight. Uh item F, continued [15:48] public hearings. There are no continued hearings. [15:52] And item G, new public hearing. So, G1, 105 Crane Terrace, a design review and [16:01] special design review, DRA- 2026-005. [16:09] This is a design review for a 1,395 [16:16] square foot of interior additions to an existing 2,966 [16:22] square foot home with a 574 square foot garage. [16:28] The proposal includes a covered and partially enclosed 570 [16:35] square foot loggia with 150 square feet of credit for covered porches. The staff [16:44] recommendation tonight is that the planning commission adopt the [16:50] proposed statement of official action approving design review [16:55] DRA-2026- 006. [17:02] And yeah, there's a typo here. So, it's DRA- 2026-005 [17:11] for 105 Crane Terrace for 1,965 square feet of additions to an existing [17:21] residence resulting in a 4,975 [17:27] adjusted square foot two-story residence. [17:32] And I'd like to confirm any ex parte communications [17:38] or site visits. Um [17:41] I visited the site. I did not go all the way up to the gate. I noticed uh some [17:47] story poles and I spoke to no one. Uh Commissioner Doctors? [17:52] » I visited the site and spoke with no one. [17:54] » Commissioner Hubner? >> I also visited [clears throat] the site [17:58] and spoke with no one. >> Commissioner Morolla? [18:00] » Visited the site and spoke to no one. >> Commissioner Bolinsky? [18:03] » I visited the site spoke to no one. >> And Commissioner Smith? [18:07] » Visited the site waved to the neighbor but spoke to nobody there. Okay. [18:13] » Thank you. And now we will have the staff presentation from planner Darren [18:18] Hughes. You may proceed. [18:22] » All right. Thank you, Chair. Good evening, Chair, members of the Planning [18:25] Commission, members of the applicant team. [18:28] Um associate planner Darren Hughes. I will give the presentation tonight for [18:32] 105 Crane Terrace uh design review 2026-005. [18:38] Um so as you stated interior additions um for 1,395 square feet. Um and a 570 [18:47] square foot loggia to the existing 3,000 it's an adjusted square foot count here [18:52] 3,160 square foot residence um resulting in a 4,975 [18:58] adjusted square foot residence in the ridgeline overlay. [19:02] All right. So some context for everyone here. You can see this is [19:07] located um one of these right here. Okay. So you [19:12] can see the project site is located kind of in the crook of the hills here right [19:16] above the Sleepy Hollow subdivision. Um very fairly remote [19:22] for a lot in Orinda. This is very large lot size at 212,000 [19:28] sq ft. Um this is in the general plan the land [19:32] use category is residential low density single family. [19:37] The zoning district for this lot and all of the surrounding lots is RL 40. That's [19:43] residential low density 40,000 sq ft. Um the lot is within the ridgeline, not the [19:49] footprint of the primary residence. But the lot itself is within the [19:54] ridgeline. It's considered a ridgeline lot. Ridgeline and environmental [19:58] preservation overlay district. You can see that in green on the screen. [20:02] And the local responsibility area is very high fire hazard severity zone. [20:07] That again is applicable to pretty much this entire region. [20:12] And the existing residence as stated is 3,160 adjusted sq ft. [20:18] So, some information about the project itself. [20:22] » [snorts] >> This is triggering design review with [20:24] the planning commission because there are additions that exceed 1,500 sq ft. [20:29] And it's requiring special design review under OMC 17.30.7, [20:35] which is special design review for severely sloped development development [20:40] footprints, which this is not, and lots within the R overlay zone. [20:45] So, as soon as you exceed either of the two thresholds, and this is exceeding [20:49] both of these thresholds, you trigger this design review. And [20:53] those thresholds are 500 sq ft or more in an addition in additional square [20:58] footage. And or 18 ft in height. So, if [21:04] and because this is proposing a second story, that is exceeding 18 ft in [21:07] height, that would be a trigger here. Um CEQA [21:11] status, this is going to be categorically exempt under section [21:14] 15301, which is for existing facilities. [21:19] And we received no public comments to date. [21:23] Uh so, proposed site plan, you can barely see anything here. It's because [21:27] it's a very large 212,000 sq ft lot. Um but we will zoom in and just look at [21:34] the floor areas that are proposed for this. So, we've got additions at the [21:39] lower, upper, garage, and loggia areas. [21:43] The lower level is here in the rear of the home. [21:48] The upper story has two areas of addition, one between the primary [21:53] residence and the garage, and one above the addition at the rear of the home. [21:58] The garage is extending to the rear of the home. [22:02] And the loggia itself is on the north side of the home, [22:07] and we are counting this loggia as square footage because it is partially [22:11] enclosed. When we look at the section, [22:15] it's the loggia credit is in 17.6.3, it's how we calculate floor area. [22:20] There's a whole section on what constitutes [22:23] floor area if it is a building recess, and we would consider this a building [22:28] recess because it is enclosed on one side completely and partially [22:34] closed on another side. So, as soon as you add that additional enclosure [22:38] by zoning administrator interpretation memo, [22:43] this becomes considered as floor area. It does receive a 150 sq ft credit, [22:49] and the garage credit is the only other credit that is applicable to this [22:54] project. So, we are looking at a [22:58] a proposed gross floor area 5,525 ft, Um, with those two credits, we're [23:03] looking at 4,975 sq ft. Now, this one portion at the very [23:08] front, um, that is uh, an addition of a an 800, I believe, [23:13] 94 sq ft uh, porch that is not enclosed on, um, [23:19] there it is unenclosed on three sides, and therefore it does not count against [23:23] the square footage. [23:27] All right. Um, so just looking very briefly at existing elevations, and, um, [23:32] let's see if I can do this. Yes. Existing elevations and the proposed [23:35] elevations. Um, so looking at the, uh, southwest and [23:40] southeast elevations here, you can see at the This is the the front of the [23:45] house at the top, um, with the with the addition of the loggia to the [23:53] uh, left-hand side of the screen. Um, in the center here is the addition of the, [23:59] um, front porch, and you can only a little bit see the the garage popping [24:03] out towards the the rear. Um, and this portion of the addition at [24:09] the top level. Um, here at the southeast elevation, [24:13] uh, where we're looking at the garage, you can see this is the extension of the [24:17] garage to one side, um, and the front porch over here. [24:23] Looking at the existing elevations for the northeast and the northwest, [24:29] we can see additions. Um, here's This is looking at the rear of the house at the [24:33] top. Um, so the addition of the garage to the back. Um, this is the the total [24:38] of the addition on the first and second story in the rear here, with the loggia [24:43] over here. And at the the lower elevation, [24:48] at the northwest, um, looking at the side of the house, this is the the [24:52] loggia here, and the, um, [24:55] and the front porch here. [24:59] So, looking at the floor area, um we took these numbers uh [25:05] the the floor area numbers come generally from [25:08] the uh from the county's data on um the parcels. [25:14] The the project itself, because it's on a [25:17] very, very large parcel, it's the largest in the area um [25:21] or among the largest in the area, um [25:24] it's got the one of the lowest floor area ratios at .02. Um that's 2% of the [25:31] the lot has been um [25:34] uh would it would be developed with this project. Um the current floor area ratio [25:39] for this project is .01. So, this is effectively uh close to doubling it. [25:45] Um but it's not the largest home in the area. Um existing square footage, not [25:51] including any garages, goes up to 5,965 in the area. Um [25:59] and it is uh far from the the highest floor area ratio, um which is .18. Um [26:06] also applicable to that uh largest home. [26:11] Uh development re- development review compliance, um this is a table that we [26:16] normally look at to say, "Okay, is everything meeting the applicable [26:21] standards within the zoning code for setbacks, height, um parking spaces?" Um [26:26] again, with this being such a large lot, there were no setback issues since [26:30] everything is being proposed relatively close to the footprint of the home. [26:33] Um all setbacks being met, the the the increased area on the second story is [26:39] not increasing the overarching height of the home, so there's no [26:43] um new height to consider here. It's uh coming in below 27 ft at 26 ft 2 in. Um [26:50] um there are only two stories, it's not [26:53] exceeding the maximum of 2.5 stories. Um and the floor area is staying below [27:00] the 7,000 square feet maximum that would be applicable to [27:05] uh to this particular lot by by the zoning code. [27:11] So, uh a just a brief overview of the design review standards and the special [27:15] design review standards in play um for the first one, we think of that as [27:20] sighting and context. Um so, we're looking at making sure that what is [27:24] being proposed is um [27:27] maintaining is relatively unique, is maintaining some variety in uh the [27:31] neighborhoods, is maintaining dominance of wooded and open ridges and hillsides. [27:36] Um it's blending into any existing landscape. Um the second piece, design [27:41] elements, visually harmonious. So, we're looking at does the design um meet the [27:46] threshold for design review in Orinda? It is the project going to be [27:50] attractive? Is it are the features going to reduce any perception of blocky or [27:55] massive features of building surfaces and provide um some articulation to the [27:59] project? Um [28:02] the third standard under basic design review, we're looking for any impacts to [28:07] neighboring residences and other people's quality of life. So, is it [28:10] impairing views that people have or um invading privacy or impacting um light [28:17] and air? And then finally, landscaping [28:21] are um considered and we look at the appropriateness of the landscaping for [28:25] what is being proposed on the site. And then for special design review, um [28:30] for specifically for lots within the R [28:33] overlay zone, um the first one is it's in substantial compliance with the [28:38] hillside and ridgeline design guidelines from the 1990s. And the third one is [28:44] looking specifically at ridgeline lots, um looking to preserve the natural [28:49] appearance of the ridgeline, make sure that we're not impacting [28:52] people's views from distant locations, and ensuring that that ridgeline that we [28:58] would like to see preserved in Orinda is being preserved by what has been [29:02] proposed. The second one is not particularly applicable here because it [29:06] is for severely sloped development footprints, [29:10] um and because this is located on a fairly [29:14] level portion of the lot and has been graded for the existing residence, and [29:20] everything is staying fairly close to that residence. We're not seeing [29:24] that this would be applicable in any way, shape, or form. So, just a brief [29:27] overview of the findings that have been proposed by staff. Generally speaking, [29:33] we're looking at a lot that has deep setbacks from the the primary road, um [29:39] Van Castle. We are looking at something that is it [29:43] is located at a relatively elevated [29:47] um portion of the lot, [29:50] but tucked back fairly well from the street, and everything that is being [29:54] proposed is pretty much hugging up against the structure, and what we are [29:59] seeing or what we have proposed with our findings is that this is something that [30:04] is approvable, is not impacting anybody's views and light from off site, [30:09] is not creating any large bulky mass that can [30:14] be seen from other points, other vantage points, [30:18] and therefore will have little impact [30:22] with what is being proposed. So, staff recommendation is to adopt [30:27] both proposed statement of official action [30:30] approving design review DRA 2026 005 for 105 Crane Terrace for 1,965 [30:40] total square feet of additions to an existing residence that would result in [30:44] a 4,975 adjusted square foot two-story [30:48] residence. And with that, I conclude my report and turn it over to the planning [30:52] commission for questions. >> Thank you. [30:55] Thank you, Planner Hughes, uh for your presentation. [30:59] Commissioners, uh do you have any questions for staff? [31:03] Commissioner Hubner. >> Darren, just so I clearly understand the [31:07] difference between Sorry. >> There. [31:10] » The difference between the loggia and the front porch qualifying as far as [31:14] square footage is the fact of the fireplace creating the partial [31:17] enclosure. Is that >> Yes. Yes, with that wall um with that [31:21] fireplace acting as a wall that >> Yeah. [31:24] » creates partial enclosure. We count that as square [31:26] » Just make sure I understood the definition. Thank you. [31:32] » Are there any other questions from the commissioners? [31:37] Okay, hearing none. Um the applicant has an opportunity now [31:43] uh to present the application to the [31:47] commission. Um you have 10 minutes total. Uh and before [31:53] you speak, uh can Do you want some time for a rebuttal? [32:00] » [laughter] >> Okay. I think I'll be fine. Okay. [32:03] » Unless I need to rebut the commission, but I'm going to do that, you know, [32:06] » Okay. I think you're I think you're okay. [32:09] Okay. Please state your name and uh proceed. [32:12] » Thank you. My name is Steven Kubicek, and I'm the designer of the house. And [32:16] I've designed this house for the Clevelands, who are sitting here today. [32:19] And part of my 10 minutes it um I'm not going to talk that long, but they want [32:23] to speak as well. Um so, when they called me to design [32:26] this home for uh Mr. Cleveland, he's from the South. [32:30] The house has some southern elements to it, and he wanted to elaborate on that. [32:34] One of the things that the house did to me, I you know, I lived in Orinda for 20 [32:38] years. So, uh I um it it it seemed very large and square [32:44] sitting on top of the hill, and I just felt like I wanted to break that up. And [32:48] with their program of wanting to add the add porches to it, that created an [32:52] opportunity to actually make the house more at at more interest to the facade [32:57] as it's viewed as it's viewed from offsite. Um Darren did a very very [33:03] complete presentation for the for the project. [33:07] And I think that he's kind of said everything and it it play it it meets [33:12] all of the requirements of the city design guidelines. So, really I'm just [33:17] happy to answer questions for you. [33:23] » Commissioners, are there any questions? Okay. [33:27] » One one quick one. What's just I'm just I'm curious, is [33:31] Isokern a brand or is it a type of fireplace? [33:33] » An Isokern is a brand, but it's it's a it's a Rumford type of fireplace, and [33:37] it's a a Rumford type of fireplace. And it's a kit that you buy. So, it's one of [33:42] the few brands of kits that you can buy that you can burn wood in. [33:47] » Okay. >> Because the flue is a very unique design [33:50] where it complete it it burns the fuel more completely so that the the [33:54] emissions are low. >> I was I was only [33:56] » They're very cool because the back of the fireplace is vertical instead of [34:00] having an angle to it, and they have a very large opening. So, they're they're [34:04] they're really great. >> Okay. Just fireplace. Just a curiosity. [34:07] Thank you. >> Yeah. [34:10] Anything else? >> No, thank you. And we will invite the [34:14] homeowners. You can have time to speak. Thank you. [34:18] » Hi. Oh my gosh, thank you all for having us. This is our first time doing this. [34:22] Um we've renovated homes in the past, but this is our first one in Orinda. Um [34:27] so, I'm Beth Cleveland, and this is my husband, Blake. Um I grew up in Orinda, [34:31] and um just sharing a little story with you [34:34] all. I actually grew up on Taber Lane um and lived at this house my entire [34:38] life and um it's pretty special to be there now. [34:42] We've been there for about nine years. Uh gotten to know the property, gotten [34:46] to know the house, the neighbors um and we feel like we're trying to do [34:52] justice to the house and I'm not just saying that because you all are [34:55] evaluating this. It is uh my grandmother used to go to garden club at this house [35:00] with Kitty Roche and we found a prom dress in our attic that we mailed to [35:04] their family, the daughter. Um so we really care genuinely about tradition, [35:09] about um holding onto the heritage. Uh we've already talked about saving a [35:14] little piece of the uh wallpaper in the kitchen cuz it's just really special and [35:18] you can tell a family was really happy there. So um yeah, thank you for the [35:22] review. We're we're trying to just really kind of adapt it to how families [35:26] live today, a little bit more shared space, a little bit more [35:29] you know, ability to use get to see the beautiful view of Orinda um spend time [35:33] with friends and family. So thank you and I'll let my husband say something. I [35:37] don't know what he's going to say, but >> Thank you. [35:41] Good evening. My name is Blake Cleveland. Um I'm Beth's husband and [35:45] when I first moved to Orinda uh being from uh South Georgia uh I looked out [35:50] from her parents' home uh onto this house and I said that's a beautiful home [35:54] and noticed that the you know, the space around it was uh quite quite open and [35:59] distinct separate from you know, a lot of the a lot of the homes in the valley [36:02] and it was you know, it was appealing to me when I first saw it just because of [36:07] the you know, kind of the federalist look to it uh that it had which is more [36:11] East Coast and um had no clue that you know, 20 years later we would be [36:17] having a chance to to live in that home and raise our family there and it's been [36:22] you know, we've been there for almost seven years now and uh and you know, [36:27] living in it for as long as we have um as probably any of you have if you've [36:32] done, you know, changes to your home, knowing exactly what probably would be, [36:36] you know, not only beneficial to us but also aesthetically pleasing to to the [36:40] home and and to all the people that actually probably look at this home [36:44] because there's quite a few um that have spoken to us about it and [36:48] it's just one of those things that we think very [36:51] um very highly of, you know, maintaining the the ridge lines and the beauty that [36:56] Orinda have um especially for, you know, historical sites. I would call this a [37:00] home, you know, it's definitely not the oldest in Orinda by any means, but um [37:04] there's uh just some beauty to it. But it's all It is absolutely old and [37:09] um and also, you know, from a standpoint of being in the the fire risk zone that [37:14] it's in. The the home needs to have some updates [37:19] that would be much more um you know, safe, if you would. And I [37:23] know there's a lot of trees around that home, but it's, you know, bringing in um [37:27] fire retardant materials, etc. That um will be obviously much, you know, will [37:32] will withstand the sun that comes onto that home as well. So, I think that [37:37] uh as we sit from sitting on that porch [37:39] once it's built, uh it will be uh enjoyable and invite you all up for a [37:43] cocktail. >> [laughter] [37:46] » Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Appreciate the comments. [37:52] And I'll ask the commission are there are there any comments uh or questions [37:56] for the homeowners? [37:59] » Just thanks to associate planner Hughes for the great presentation and um as a [38:03] fellow Orinda boomerang, I grew up here, moved away and came back. Um just [38:07] excited to see a a fellow fellow Orinda boomerang taking care of a a house that [38:11] needs some updates and just appreciate the thought that um that went into the [38:14] home and clearly doing your best to to balance um your needs with considering [38:19] the surroundings. So, appreciate it. >> Thank you. [38:24] Okay, so hearing no more comments from the commissioners, [38:28] we are going to have the public comment portion, [38:32] and I will open the floor up to the public. There's no one in the audience. [38:37] Are there any >> No public comments. [38:39] » Okay. So, there are no public comments, so [38:44] I'm going to close the floor and [38:48] bring the matter up to the commission for discussion and action. [38:54] Are there any comments or >> Well, I thought it was just a totally [38:59] off the topic, but it was kind of adorable that the owners of the lot that [39:03] I bought when I was building my house were in the audience and everybody [39:06] assumed they were there to support us, but the the party ended up throwing [39:10] themselves in front of the tractor when we started building our house. So, we [39:13] weren't quite as welcomed at the time. Anyway, um I just want to [39:18] thank staff for a thorough presentation and thanks for the extra little bit of [39:22] table that I was used to seeing and um it does it does seem like a very [39:27] appropriate uh addition to the to the house and to the neighborhood. [39:33] » Yeah, and I would like to add that uh to thank the staff for the presentation. Um [39:39] I would like to say also that you have a wonderful lot. It's amazing. Uh I think [39:44] the patio is going to be a really nice addition sitting out front. I'm sure it [39:49] gives you a lot of memories from uh back home. [39:52] And so, um yeah, and I really appreciate also the [39:56] comment about uh using fire retardant materials. That's a really important. I [40:02] feel um really uh glad to hear that. So, [40:06] thank you. [40:10] » Make a motion to proceed as as staff. [40:15] » I'll vote no. >> Wait, I thought this was [40:18] going to be an action. >> Okay, make a motion to approve the [40:23] planning commission >> No, adopt. [40:26] Adopt. >> Oh. [40:27] » Adopt the proposed statement. >> Adopt proposed statement of official [40:31] action proving design review DRA 2026-005 [40:37] for 105 Crane Terrace for 1965 square feet of additions to an [40:42] existing resident resulting in a 4,975 adjusted square foot two-story [40:46] residence. >> Thank you. And before I ask for a second [40:51] to that motion, we're going to do a different procedure [40:54] according to Robert's rules, is there a substitute motion? [41:00] Do not hear any substitute motion. Now, is there an amendment to Commissioner [41:06] Smith's first motion? Hearing none, do I have a second to the [41:11] motion? >> Second. [41:15] » Commissioner Doctors seconds that motion and we'll do a roll call vote. [41:20] Commissioner Hubner. >> I. [41:22] » Commissioner Merola. >> I. [41:25] » Commissioner Oblinski. >> I. [41:27] » Commissioner Smith. >> I. [41:29] » Commissioner Doctors. >> I. [41:30] » And Commissioner Armstrong is an I. So, the motion is carried and the motion [41:37] is unanimous. >> It's okay. [41:39] » Oh, congratulations. Your project is approved. [41:43] » [laughter] [41:46] » And I have for the record I have to read appeal rights. I will now read the [41:49] appeal rights. A decision by the planning commission is final unless a [41:54] written notice of appeal specifying the grounds for the appeal is submitted to [41:59] the planning department during normal business hours [42:02] within 10 calendar days with the appropriate fees. [42:06] The appeal will be considered by the city council. If you challenge any [42:10] actions on the agenda in court, you may be limited to raising only those issues [42:16] you or someone else raised at the public hearing described in this notice [42:22] or in written correspondence delivered to the Planning Commission [42:26] uh at or prior to the public hearing. The time to file action to challenge the [42:34] decision is governed by the Code of Civil Procedure section 1094.6. [42:40] Thank you. Okay. [42:43] Item H, other commission matters. Are there any other commission matters [42:48] tonight? [42:51] Hearing none, item I, Planning Commissioner's report. I do not have a [42:56] report tonight. Item J, Planning Director's update. [43:02] » Commissioner, Director Director >> thank you. Thank you, Chairman [43:05] Armstrong. The only update I have for you is on August 18th, [43:08] the City Council did approve 42 Charles Hill. [43:12] They did acknowledge the comments that were received by the Planning [43:16] Commission, in particular the concerns about build now, ask for forgiveness [43:22] later. They did acknowledge, but this project had some other [43:26] significant issues um [43:29] that was pulling us in a certain direction, so [43:32] um there was legal [43:35] advice on this project, so that was given to City Council. [43:40] » I I was going to ask what the other significant issues were, but that [43:43] answered my question. >> [laughter] [43:46] » Thank you for that update. Okay, we're at item K. Chairman, do I [43:51] have a motion to adjourn this meeting? >> So moved. [43:55] » Do I have a second? [43:58] » Second. >> We'll give that to Commissioner Doctors. [44:03] All in favor, say I. >> I. I. I.