Morning everyone, thank you for joining us on this morning.
Called this meeting to order, remind those that are intended,
that this meeting is being recorded, web stream and captured,
microphones must be used at all times. The purpose of
this meeting is to consider a staff report related to
a potential acquisition of property for a health sciences building.
The city of Auschwitz situated on lands within the traditional
territories of the Missisagi, Chippewai, Onoshinave, the signatories of the
William Streety, which includes Ms. Saga's Gugag Island curve like
Highwater, Alderville First Nation Chippewas of Georgine Island, Rama Bozola
and First Nations. We are grateful for the Anishinaba, who
have cared for the land and the waters within this
territory. Since time of memorial, we recognise that Osha's steep
and rich indigenous history and has now present day home
to many First Nation Inuied Amatey people. We express the
gratitude of this diverse group of indigenous people who continue
to care for the land and shape and strengthen our
community. As a municipality, we are committed to the understanding,
the truth of our shared history, acknowledging our role in
addressing negative impacts at colonization continues to have on Indigenous
people developing reciprocal relationships and taking meaningful action towards true
reconciliation. We are all treaty people. Declarations of pecuniary interests
that need to be noted at this time. Madam Clerk,
notice that there is it. Council Chapman, good morning. You
have two motions, my understand that you sent to the
clerk on Thursday. So please proceed. It's one and the
same. The first one is the reconsideration on the CNCL
2646, the second pieces would kick in if the reconsideration
is considered. Thank you. Do you have a senator on
it? Yes, Councillor Mayor Patrick. Okay, I'd like a recorded
vote on the reconsideration. Thank you. Could ask a question.
I've sent in a motion related to going into committee
of the hall prior to proceeded. We have a motion
on the floor at this particular time. Okay, so I
now have to discuss that motion. In committee of the
whole. Would the community of the whole motion not need
to be moved first? I've already accepted the motion. But
I'm asking as a procedural matter. If the motion ends
up on the floor. Yes. At that point, would a
committee of the whole, not to my understanding. My understanding
is emotion itself stands by itself? So wouldn't a procedural
motion take precedence? Because whoever sends a thing in first
doesn't answer any question with regards to how procedure will
be approached in the matter. So we've always conduct ourselves
accordingly. My understanding is we have a motion to reconsideration.
Councillor Chapman notified the clerk's office on Thursday that he
had every intent of moving the reconsideration along with the
recommendation so that we could go and discuss the matter.
As you've heard, I've accepted both. And so I'd like
to proceed with the reconsideration. So what would be the
appropriate time to bring a committee of the whole motion?
To be absinthe, we'll have to see where the recommendations
go. So there is no opportunity to go into closed
in committee of the whole without. Okay, so I called
a recorded vote on the reconsideration, Adam Clerk starts. Does
the hand over on the other side? Thank you. There's
a hand waving on the other side. I've already called
the vote. Councillor Nicholson. Yes, the reconsideration first. Yes, sir.
Microphone. I've already told you the question. On the first
one. Is it in order to call a question on
all three parts? I think we have to deal with
part one. So that's what I understand. Okay. And it's
my understanding that we don't debate reconsideration motions. Is that
correct? No, we're just going to vote on it. So
thank you. And can we clarify which vote the yes,
the no works in which way. Yes means that we
are, um, accepting to reconsideration. No means that you don't
accept the reconsideration. Adam clerk, start with me, please. Yes.
Vote on the reconsideration for CNCL 2646 part one Mayor
Carter? Yes. Councillor Chapman? Yes. Councillor Garberson? No. Councillor Grey.
Yes. Councillor Kerr? Yes. Councillor Lee? Yes. Councillor Mayor and
Petra? Yes. Councillor Marx? No. Councillor McConkie's ups and Councillor
Neal is absent. Councillor Nicholson? Yes. That's seven affirmative. Sure.
Okay. So that's two thirds. Um, I've already accepted the
motion from councillor. I'm going to move to call a
question. Okay. Just a minute, please. You moved the recommendation
in regards to it. Your secretary is Councillor Petry. Is
that correct? Okay. I have questions on this. My understanding
is, is that you want to move to call the
question? Do you have a second? Have I not sent
by an email indicating the committee of the whole motion
first? Would I not next have the floor? No, you
wouldn't because I've already got the motion from Councillor Chapman.
Yeah. So the motion on the floor. The motion is
on the floor. But if we want to go into
closed session to ask questions, we could do that. We
could do, we could do that. But I've accepted Councillor
Nicholson's. You received a committee of the whole motion request
prior to that. My understanding is that the committee of
the whole, to move into committee, the whole that motion
would need to be put in before councillor chapments. I've
accepted the recommendation moved by the recommendation. It's been seconded.
So somewhat that's the, that's the procedural practice of this
council that a motion getting moved. Yes. Ken subborn any
ability. And we have not received an update in 16
months on this matter. Okay. I'm going to stop you
there. I've ruled. I've accepted the motion. This is the
motion is to move the recommendation by Councillor Chapman and
second by Councillor Pietri. Councillor Nicholson, you called the question.
Do you have a second during the calling the question.
I'm waiting to find out if I do or not.
Do I have a sector on calling the question. Second
of our council Mayor Pietri. We have to record a
vote on calling the question by Councillor Nicholson, please. So
just chairman. Just hold on. We're going to, it's about
calling the question. If it calls, I want to speak
on the calling the question. Uh, we don't speak on
calling the question. Procedural procedurally. You need four, three votes
or three speakers against it and three speakers for it
before you call the question on the way I always
dealt with in second. We're getting a wee tied up
in procedural and we're not going to get anything done
today that is going to make any sense that anybody
out there in the public. Okay. So you can't speak
calling the question has been moved in secondary. A recorded
vote has been called by. And can we just clarify
that calling the question is to end any debate or
any questions whatsoever. We're not going to go into closed
session to ask questions if this passes. That's correct. Okay.
Okay. For the record recorded vote is being called by
Councillor Nicholson. Okay. Recorded vote by councillor Nicholson? Yes. Councillor
Chapman? Yes. Councillor Garberson? Absolutely not. Councillor Grey? No. Sorry,
you say, can you repeat that? Councillor way. Council Grey.
Sorry. Sorry. I thought I responded. No. Okay. Thank you.
Councillor Kerr? No. Councillor Lee? No. Councillor Marine Petrie? No.
Councillor Marx? No. Councillor McConkie. No. Councillor Neal is absent
Mayor Carter? Yes. That's three affirmative. Losers. Okay. I need
a motion to go on a closed session, please, that
they were on the recommendation as presented as. Yeah. Just
hold on a sec. I have to go through the
procedure. Council Job and you have a motion? Yes, I
do. Move by myself second away, Councillor Mayor Pietri. They're
pursuant to the municipal act this meeting be closed to
the public to consider the following CNCL - 26 -
46 pursuant to sections 239 to see. I and K.
C is proposed or pending acquisition or disposition of land.
I, as information supplied incompetence, which could prejudice, which could
prejudice a competitive position or interfere with negotiations of a
person or organisation. And K is a position plan procedure
criteria or instruction for negotiations. Carried on by or on
behalf of the municipality. Okay. So it's been moved in
second. Any opposition regards to go into close. I am
asking for recorded vote. And I'm in opposition. Thank you.
Okay. Thank you. Start with council McConkie, please. Ricardo fell
to move into close. Councillor McConkie. No. Councillor Neal is
absent. Councillor Nicholson? Yes. Councillor Chapman? Yes. Councillor Guyberson? Yes.
Councillor Grey? Yes. Councillor Kerr? Yes. Councillor B? Yes. Councillor
Marine Petty? Yes. Pastor Mark? Yes. Mayor Carter? Yes. Okay.
So just give us a moment. We've got to close
the doors. Any staff member that it's not. Directly involved
in this discussion. We are going to ask him to
leave. The show.
Thank you for the patience. I greatly appreciate it. We
went into closed session at 910 this morning. Questions and
comments were asked and answered no motions were moved. At
that time. We are now an open session. We have
Councillor Chapman, Councillor Giverson, Councillor Grey, Councillor Kirk, Councillor Lee.
Council Mayor Petri, Council Marx, Councillor McConkie, Councillor Nicholson along
with our team. The doors are open. The motion is
on the floor, the recommendation. I've sent an amendment. Senator
amendment. Mr. Adapt 4.
Just give me a moment, please.
Yes. Do you have a second year for it at
this time. I don't. The ID amendment is quite simple,
though. It's just relating to providing the communication update. I
haven't accepted it yet. I'm trying to make sure that
it's in order, and I want to check all the
boxes, okay? So nothing engage you, it's more on me.
I'll second it. Just. Give me a minute, please.
I want to get. To get. Our legal opinion on
this first. Just, no, not yet. So I'm just going
to give our solicitor a moment to read it. And
make sure I clearly understand it. Thanks.
Yeah. Go ahead. Just to let you know, Councillor Garvi
said, I've been advised that this would break the confidentiality
of the report. So therefore, I have to rule it
out of order. You're more than willing to challenge the
chair. But I've tried to take the best advice I
can. I am quite confident in staff and the other
party's ability to determine what parts would not be. Made
public if there was a communication. Made. So could I
just clarify then? In terms of what goes public and
what doesn't, on matters like these as they progress. Back
in late April. Without any advanced notice to members of
council, a sign appeared outside the building. With a bit
of summary information. I have yet to date to be
given any update on who put the sign there under
which authorization, how that fit into the existing agreements. So
there are a lot of ambiguity as far as when
and what and which stages. Things are communicated to the
public on this. And I understand that. I'm just stating
that based upon the advice I've been given, I'm going
to say that it is out of order and that
we have to protect the confidentiality. So if, again, as
if you disagree with me, I get it. I'm taking
the advice of people that are shorter than you. Yeah.
And I mean, as I've mentioned, I would, I'll have
to challenge the chair because for the very simple point
that I would trust the party's ability to determine what
communication would be appropriate given the current stage of this,
hold on. One thing at a time. So a challenge
has come to the chair. You don't need a secret
deferred challenging to the chair. If you support the chair's
decision, you say yes. If you don't support the chair,
you say, no. And we will take a recorded vote
to be able to make sure that that's the case.
So Madam Clerk.
I have called for, I've called for a recorded vote
on challenging the chair. So please proceed, start myself, please.
Yes. Recorded vote on challenging the chair. Mayor Carter? Yes.
Councillor Chapman? Yes. Councillor Garberson? No. Councillor Grey? Yes. Councillor
Kerr? Yes. Councillor Lee? Yes. Councillor Mayor Petrus? Yes. Without
the benefit of knowing what you received in terms of
legal opinion? No. Councillor McConkie. Yes, but is there any
opportunity to go into closed session further after we vote
on this. Can we go into closed session after this?
We are dealing with challenging with the chair. Right. But
after this challenging the chair. Yes. Councillor Neil is absent,
councillor nickelson? Yes. That is. Nine affirmative. Mayor Carter, could
we take a motion to go into closed session to
look at the motion that comes? How many affirmative. Sorry.
I'm sorry. Hold on a second. Madam Clerk. Sorry, eight
affirmative. So, um, so closed session to look at the
motion that there's no. Motion from Councillor Guyberson that you
ruled out of order. Right. So it's not out of
order because you gave the reason that it should not
be in public session. So can now I move a
motion to go into closed session. No, not to be
able to do it because I don't have a motion
in front of me because it's been ruled out of
order. So the original motions on the floor, recorded vote
on the original motion, Madam Clerk, starting with myself, please.
Motion. Recorded vote. According to vote on the remainder of
the motion. Yep. Mayor Carter? Yes. Councillor Chapman? Yes. Councillor
Garberson. No. Councillor Grey? Yes. Councillor Kerr? Yes. Councillor Lee?
Yes. Councillor Mary Petri. Yes. Councillor Marx? No. Councillor McConkie?
No. Councillor Neal is absent. Councillor Nicholson? Yes. Seven affirmative.
Thank you. Councillor Chapman. Yes, moved by myself, saying no
by Council Mayor and Pietri that the confirming bylaw be
passed. Recorded votes, please. Recorded vote on the confirming bylaw
councillor, sorry, Mayo Carter? Yes. Councillor Chapman? Yes. Councillor Garberson?
Yes. Councillor Grey? Yes. Councillor Kerr? Yes. Councillor Lee? Yes.
Councillor Mary Petri? Yes. Councillor Marx? Yes. Councillor McConkie? Yes.
Councillor Neal is absent. Councillor Nicholson? Yes. Ten affirmative. Motion
of jury. Potion to adjourn. Second, I by Councillor. Petri.
Any opposition. Seeing none. That's it. Thanks folks.