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I will call to order the Ottawa City

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Commission meeting for Wednesday, June

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3rd, 2026. May I have roll call, please?

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>> Mayor Clayton.

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>> Present.

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>> Mayor pro tem Crawley.

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>> Present.

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>> Commissioner Allen.

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>> Present.

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>> Commissioner Skidmore.

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>> Present.

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>> And Commissioner Van Laeden.

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>> Present.

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>> We are all present and accounted for.

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Um, want to welcome everyone here in the

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audience and out in the hallway, as well

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as those watching online. We'll do the

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Pledge of Allegiance, followed by the

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invocation by Commissioner Skidmore.

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America,

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and to the republic for which it stands,

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one nation, under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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>> Let's pray.

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Father in heaven, we give you thanks for

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this gathering. We thank you for this

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beautiful city hall you've given to us.

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And Lord, for this beautiful city, as

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well. We think of all the city employees

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and the staff. We're just thankful from

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top to bottom for every single one of

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them, and just ask for you to bless them

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and their families each and every day.

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And Lord, as we look over the agenda

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today and the and items on this, we just

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ask for your direction and guidance as

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we make these decisions to bring honor

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and glory to you. All these things we

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pray in Christ's name. Amen.

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» Thank you, Commissioner Skidmore.

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That'll take us to item six, public

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comments.

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>> We have 12 registered.

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Perfect. Our first one is Susan Hughes.

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» Welcome, Susan. Please state your name

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and where you live. Thank you.

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>> Uh, I'm Susan Hughes. I live at 1201

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Good evening, Mayor and Commissioners.

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I know this is a very important, big

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decision, what to do about the state of

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center.

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a wise man takes counsel from many wise

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people. A lot of these people that are

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opposing this data center

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are intelligent, well-informed,

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well-educated on this issue. So, it's

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wise to listen to them.

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One thing is really a problem is it

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seems like we're not being told what's

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going on. There's no transparency.

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I know the city spent a lot of money on

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proximity park, and then nobody wanted

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it.

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So, some data center comes in and offers

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you some money and you grab it.

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At the time, I know they were told said

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it they were going to use solar panels

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to power it.

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this group is going to use

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uh diesel engines.

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We're jumping full steam ahead into

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this, and they're going to create steam.

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They're going to use 5 million gallons

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of water a day to create steam.

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We don't have that kind of water.

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We We can't use that.

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We don't have regulations to zone this,

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to regulate the noise,

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the chemicals that are being released

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from this, how much water they're using.

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a moratorium. Sedgwick County did

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because they need to rewrite their

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regulations. We do not have adequate

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regulations for a project of this size.

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RFK Jr. said it these data centers have

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a horrendous risk to human life.

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This is a serious matter. We need to

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really give it some serious thought. I

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don't know how far you're in the

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process. I don't care if you lose

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whatever money they gave you.

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I think we need to save our environment.

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to preserve our water. We need to quit

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poisoning people downstream with it. And

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the noise and vibrations, there's just

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too many serious things. We just really

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need to slow down,

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take some time, do some study, go visit

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some of these people that already have

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Look at some of the regulations that

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some of other cities are writing up.

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What do we need to do to protect your

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people?

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Don't protect the company that's doing

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it. Don't protect the lobbyist. Protect

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us that voted you in.

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You are our voice. If this is a

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democracy, we could vote today and it

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would be down. But we're not a

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democracy.

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We're a constitutional republic.

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So, we have to have you be our voice and

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take our best interest at heart. Nobody

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else's, just ours. Thank you.

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» Rebecca Schmoe.

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» Thank you. Um, first and foremost, I

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want to say thank you to the commission

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and to uh Mayor Clayton.

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You guys are here because you love our

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community and I appreciate each and

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every one of you.

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I am also here because I am your

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constituents, um, living at 1526 South

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and I am opposed to the data center.

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here is because these are our shared

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constituents

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and in order for me to share their voice

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and their values whenever I'm in Topeka

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and having these same conversations at

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the state level,

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I have to know what their voice is.

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So, thank you guys for taking the

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opportunity to listen to our

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constituents so that I can also share

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their values. Thank you.

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» We have Rachel Rhodes.

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» My name is Rachel Rhodes. I live at 3267

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an industrial park there. I actually

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kind of like the idea of my husband

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having a 2-minute commute versus a

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45-minute commute, but um I have real

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concerns with using the area as a data center. Um one of the issues that I

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see is um I don't see it as a being a

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real source of jobs for Ottawans. Um

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anybody

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has that type of job that's capable of

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running a data center or a natural gas

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energy plant. Um

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and I'm not here to complain because

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it's ugly and I don't want it in my

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neighborhood. Um I know a lot of people

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are opposed to these type of things

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because they just don't want to look at

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them and that is not the case for me.

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that I've heard that these data centers

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centers use and it comes up to something

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like 11,000 the usage equal to 11,000

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where are we going to get that type of

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water? You guys have seen the Meramec

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every July how low it gets. Where

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where's that water going to come from

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and how is it going to be disposed of?

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erosion is that going to cause in in the

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riverbed? Um dumping that much back into

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the river daily. I'm assuming if it

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going to um dump into the ecosystem

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downstream? Um So, these are questions

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um be happy with proceeding with this

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type or any type of um industry

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industrial um business that wants to

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come to Proximity Park. Thank you.

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» Roxanne Mettenberg

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» Hello, my name is Roxanne Mettenberg. I

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live in the county on Nevada Road, uh

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zip code 66078.

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And what I want to say to you is, um

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when I was 20 years old, I was given

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some advice from an employer.

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He said to me, "The only people who

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don't make mistakes are in the

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graveyard."

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The important thing is to own your

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mistake

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and correct it as quickly as possible.

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That advice has served me well for 60

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Late in 2024, I think most of us had

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little notion of economic and

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environmental environmental implications

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hyperscale data center construction and

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not bring up visions of massive

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resource-sucking industrial enterprises.

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We also did not have federal or state

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legislation that incentivized this kind

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of build-out.

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So, it is not surprising that a proposal

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in late 2024 with promises of big

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revenues to a community would fail to

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raise false flags or or red flags.

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But now in 2026, the reality on the

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ground is quite different

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than any of us may have perceived in

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The resource utilization around energy

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and water is staggering.

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Kansas is a state that is prone to

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drought, some lasting several years. I

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have lived through them.

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That is the case. Water has and is

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historic has historically and is

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most fragile resources.

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The energy demand is likewise

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overwhelming.

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Even if electricity is generated by the

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data center AKA behind the meter,

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hyperscale facilities will inevitably

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drive up electrical rates as they

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compete for natural gas that is subject

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to the laws of supply and demand on the

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commodity market.

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And itself, natural gas, is a finite

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The economic benefits and employment

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benefits of data centers are also

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elusive.

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Fortunately, due to the extensions

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requested by Lightfield, you all have

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the opportunity to reevaluate this

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project more thoroughly from sources

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independent from these developers.

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I ask all of you to read this

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comprehensive analysis

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from University of Michigan Department

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of Science, Technology, and Public

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Policy.

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This report documents the true costs and

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nationwide gold rush to hyperscale

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data center activity.

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Both the state and Everett, Kansas, and

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this city are stumbling into every

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mistake

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itemized in this report.

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So, we ask you to pause

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this effort, engage the public, and put

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in place very specific zoning

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ordinances targeted to the negative

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aspects of data center development

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before you continue to pursue this

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endeavor. We also ask that you eliminate

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>> Sorry.

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>> the tax incentive financial incentive as

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per recommendations.

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>> Thank you, Roxanne.

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» Jim Wonderly.

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>> Thank you.

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» I didn't prepare a speech or anything,

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but uh

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in my previous life I was a mechanical

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engineer and I know these systems can be

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put together with a very minimal water

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consumption,

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relative minimal,

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but the demand will have to be on you

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all to make sure the specs are there to

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reduce water consumption.

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They can put in

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closed-loop systems on the cooling,

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which is probably what's going to

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consume most of the water,

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and if that's not a closed water tower

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system, the the demands are going to be

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high, and that the your developer that

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you're dealing with is not going to want

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to do that.

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Because it's a lot more expensive than

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the conventional cooling system for

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these computers.

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So, you guys are going to have to put

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the feet to the fire to make sure they

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do what's

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best for us.

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The other part of it is the noise, and

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the noise levels can be horrendous.

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And same thing, noise can be attenuated

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based on building construction, but they

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have to put the technology into that construction in

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order to keep the noise contained.

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Cuz within a mile, it's going to be

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unbearable.

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And 5 mi it's going to be heard,

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but it can be avoided.

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So, I ask you to again, as previous

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speakers have said, stop, pause, make

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sure you get a

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engineer on board before you even sign

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the agreement to see what means you can

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go to the extreme to save water and to

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avoid noise. That's all I have. Thank

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you.

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>> Thank you, Jim.

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» Jan Coons?

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Hello, commissioners. My name is Jan

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Coons. I live at 3442 Rock Creek Road in

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Ottawa.

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I respectfully ask that you place a

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pause on allowing Lightfield Energy or

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any data center project to move forward

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in our community until additional

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research, public input, and careful

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evaluation can take place.

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Please listen to the concerns of the

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many local residents who call Ottawa and

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Franklin County home.

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We are deeply concerned about the

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enormous energy demands, strain on

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infrastructure, environmental impacts,

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noise pollution, significant water

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consumption, and the gradual loss of the

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rural character that makes our community

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so special.

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Once a project of this scale is

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approved, the impacts can be permanent.

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We are simply asking you to pause, fully

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evaluate the risks, and protect the

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people, land, and resources that have

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sustained this community long before

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outside corporations arrived with

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promises of economic development.

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More than 700 Franklin County residents

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have signed a petition opposing data

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centers in our county in 1 week.

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Their voices deserve to be heard and

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carefully considered.

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We have confidence that you will do what

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is best for Ottawa and future

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generations by thoughtfully

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reconsidering this proposal before

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moving forward. Thank you for your time,

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your service, and your commitment to our

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community.

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>> Thank you, Jan.

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» Chris Maze.

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I live here in Ottawa.

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On Locust.

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And um in the past I've talked about

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much of what has been talked to already,

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but I kind of wanted to hit home a

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little harder this time and speak to the

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codes that you already have, like

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14-101, which addresses stormwater

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pollution.

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Its purpose is preventing the discharge

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of contaminated stormwater runoff and

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illicit discharges within the city. It

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goes on to say that this also applies to

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pollution the water of the United

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States.

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It sets a precedent that both it and the

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city can be held accountable to. It goes

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on to say that this applies to the

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improper discharge

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of Sorry, I lost my place.

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Wastewater, petroleum products.

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Sorry.

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Uh petroleum products, cleaning

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products, hazardous waste.

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Um the code speaks to the termination of

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utility services even for this

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pollution.

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Um after notices of violation, fines,

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orders of abatement. It says city

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representatives can enter facilities, um

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and it's a lot It's unlawful to try to

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stop them.

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I ask at the very least that you make

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sure you apply those same standards that

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may apply to stormwater. I'm not sure if

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it directly applies to the data center

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or not, but a public statement saying

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that all of that will be

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applied to the data center as well would

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go a long way for me.

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Um

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but we also I mean you were also told

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about that University of Michigan

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report. Um and it says that tax breaks

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for data centers do not deliver the

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promised benefits such as high-paying

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jobs. They can reduce tax revenues. They

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shift burdens on the communities.

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Um it says their massive energy demands

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are prolonging the operation of fossil

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fuel plants and undermining green energy

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goals. It advises the mitigation of data

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centers environmental impacts with

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substantial or sustainability goals,

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laws like the German Energy Efficiency

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Act, requirements for green energy use,

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uh transparency through mandatory

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reporting.

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But I also ask you to just reconsider

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this project. I don't think it's fitting

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the values of this city. I think that

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would be much better applied proximity

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park to

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uh housing development,

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to small business development. Those are

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things that I think anybody in this

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community would applaud you for, love

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you for.

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Uh and this is a very controversial

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thing that's seeing a lot of opposition.

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The more people know about it, the more

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word gets out, the more opposition I'm

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seeing even. It's surprising me. I mean,

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this community's working together across

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party lines in ways that I never thought

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I'd see.

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So, it's been remarkable, it really has.

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So, and if you don't think that

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water pollution really applies to us,

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that's just not a real thing. I mean,

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there's reports by KDHE that will list

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pollutants that are already in the

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water. Now, I will grant you, not trying

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to lie to you here, that some of those

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can be naturally occurring, but they

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also cite potential industrial causes as

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well.

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So, it's not like it doesn't happen, it

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does happen, and it also doesn't get

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abated.

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It just continues.

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I mean, do we all want to go to going to

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the store to buy all our water and not

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drink out of the faucet? Cuz if this

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goes in, that's the first thing I'm

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going to do. I'm not going to trust the

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tap anymore.

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Thank you for your time. I think my

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time's up.

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>> Thank you, Chris.

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» Michael Lewis.

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» My name is Michael Lewis, Ottawa

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resident 433 South Poplar.

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Thank you, Mayor, Commissioners,

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everyone in attendance, those watching.

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Last meeting, you approved an ordinance

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pertaining to dog control.

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Section two of that ordinance read, "To

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protect protect and promote the public

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health, safety, and general welfare of

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the citizens of the city of Ottawa."

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Chronic bronchitis and emphysema,

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heart disease, heart attacks, strokes,

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asthma,

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neurological effects,

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cancer,

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premature birth, low birth rate.

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Those are just some of the increased

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health risks associated with a natural

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gas power plant.

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And yet, air pollution is only one part

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of the conversation.

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We are being asked, well, rather told,

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to accept the water demands of a massive

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data center,

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the health and environmental impacts

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that come with it, and the uncertainty

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of what these combined burdens will mean

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for our community in the years ahead.

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When the health of our families, the

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quality of our air,

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the security of our water are all on the

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line,

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caution is not obstruction, it's a

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responsibility.

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When is the last time you've seen this

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room filled week after week after week?

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Just look around. This is not politics,

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it is community.

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I urge this body simply to do what you

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are supposed to do in your role every

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day,

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highlighted by section two of our new

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dog ordinance,

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protect and promote the public health,

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safety, and general welfare

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of the citizens of the city of Ottawa.

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Thank you.

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>> Thank you, Michael.

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Rich Colson.

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» Good evening. Rich Colson, 1610

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Bluestem, Ottawa.

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Um at the beginning of this meeting, we

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all stood and we pledged allegiance to

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the Republic. A republic is defined as a

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form of government in which the power

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belongs to a body of citizens entitled

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to vote and is exercised by the leaders

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and representatives of those people. You

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are not

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representing these people.

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I think a recent Gallup poll

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indicated that 71% of US citizens oppose

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data centers.

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This community, I think, is a pretty

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good representation of the American

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public as a whole.

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So, I think you could probably

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extrapolate that around 70% of the

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Ottawa citizens would be against this.

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But, instead, this project was initiated

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and advanced in secret, behind closed

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doors, with no public input. That is a

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violation of the trust we have given you

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by voting for you, and a violation of

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your responsibility and duty of the

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office that you hold.

563
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,960
Everyone has stood up here and has told

564
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,880
you of the the water pollution, air

565
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,440
pollution, all of the negative impacts

566
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,920
that this has on the community. My point

567
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,000
is that you have done wrong by the

568
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,400
citizens of Ottawa by permit by by

569
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,640
perpetuating this by bringing this up by

570
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,520
even broaching the subject without some

571
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,240
sort of a ballot or at least initial

572
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,440
input from the citizens of Ottawa. You

573
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,480
did none of that. You sat behind closed

574
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,000
doors and you voted for this. That is

575
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,680
not okay.

576
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,080
And it will be remembered come voting

577
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,720
time. Thank you.

578
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,790
>> Thank you, Eric.

579
00:21:49,800 --> 00:22:04,110
» Sean Torres

580
00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:05,520
» All right.

581
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,040
Hello. My name is Sean Xavier Torres. I

582
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,000
can go, right?

583
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,880
>> Good. Okay.

584
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,400
>> Name Sean Xavier Torres. I've been a

585
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,600
resident of Ottawa since 6th grade. I've

586
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,520
been working at KOFAB since I was 15

587
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,920
years old and I own my own house in

588
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,000
town.

589
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,880
Um I haven't been able to hear too much

590
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,240
of everyone what everyone's been saying,

591
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,360
so I'm not sure if anybody's talked

592
00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:24,600
about actually drafting an ordinance to

593
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,480
uh redo the regulations on what a data

594
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,200
center is and actually defining what a

595
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,520
data center is.

596
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,320
>> Chris, can you pull the mic down? Uh

597
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,240
sorry, Sean.

598
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,840
>> Yeah, no, you're fine. Is that better?

599
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,640
>> That's Thank you.

600
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:35,040
>> All right.

601
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,960
>> Good deal. Uh so, I had a whole draft

602
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,520
ordinance that I sent all the uh city

603
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,120
commissioners via email a few days ago

604
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:42,760
um to look at and look over and see if

605
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,120
you guys can't make that work and turn

606
00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:45,560
it into an ordinance.

607
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,200
But uh I did have it here to submit to

608
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,640
you all if you wanted to see the

609
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,320
paperwork uh for yourselves. Actually,

610
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,440
I'd like to submit it for uh public

611
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,880
record. I think it is, right? Good deal.

612
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,480
Uh anyway, uh it's a whole four-section

613
00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,880
deal here talking about amending the

614
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,880
local zoning regulations to define,

615
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,760
categorize, and regulate data centers

616
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,880
based on the infrastructure demand and

617
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,680
operational scale.

618
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,000
I could go through all of this, but I'm

619
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,360
not. I'm just going to go talk about the

620
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:12,000
definitions that it talks about here

621
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,720
because I think that's really key in

622
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,800
regulating data centers.

623
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,760
Uh first of which is enterprise data

624
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,400
centers. These are localized facilities

625
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,880
designed, constructed, and operated

626
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,680
primarily for the internal data

627
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,480
processing and storage needs of a single

628
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,280
primary organization.

629
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,600
So, like if Microsoft were to move to

630
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,520
town and build their own data center.

631
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,400
Uh the next one's colocation, and this

632
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,440
is a a facility designed to provide

633
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,040
services to other smaller enterprises.

634
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,520
And then we have the ones that we're

635
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,160
talking about now, which are hyperscale

636
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,040
or AI, which uh you can read through

637
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,800
this and figure out all the uh specifics

638
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,360
here, but it says things like a total

639
00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:47,760
cumulative electrical power demand

640
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,240
exceeding 50 MW, continuous power

641
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,640
consumption design rates exceeding

642
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,840
50,000 gallons per day, which I know has

643
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,360
recently been resolved. Uh the inclusion

644
00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:58,000
of onsite dedicated electrical

645
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,520
substations or high voltage transmission

646
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,560
line upgrades, and aggregated backup

647
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,280
generation capacity utilizing more than

648
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,120
20 industrial diesel generators, and a

649
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:10,160
whole list of other things that talks

650
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,360
about here as to defining the

651
00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:14,320
regulations and all the stuff here. I

652
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,480
don't really want to go through it all

653
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,040
in a public meeting setting, but like I

654
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,120
said, I will submit it to you all for

655
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:20,360
public record.

656
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:21,840
That's all I had today.

657
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:22,800
>> Thank you, Sean.

658
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,310
>> Thank you.

659
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,550
so much.

660
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:43,630
Okay, Scott Yergens.

661
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,480
» You You guys are pretty patient.

662
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,480
I'm Scott Yergens, 3332

663
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,950
Rock Creek Road.

664
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,760
My dad was a mayor. I think I told Zach

665
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,440
this

666
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,120
twice

667
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:04,560
on the city council then mayor two term.

668
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,280
Mexico, Missouri, a town about

669
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,760
3/4 the size of this town.

670
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,960
When I was about 12, I asked my dad why

671
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,560
people voted for him.

672
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,240
And I did been 13 and he said,

673
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,160
"I thought it was the black people." But

674
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,160
my dad, I'm pretty old, so he might have

675
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,360
said colored people. I don't remember.

676
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:37,240
And I asked him why and he said,

677
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,000
"I'll show you after dinner." So he came

678
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,680
home from his store. He owned a store in

679
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,440
Mexico.

680
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,040
And um

681
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,280
he said, "Let after dinner." He said,

682
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,720
"Let's get in the car and

683
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,680
uh

684
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,200
so he drove us to where it was a

685
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,280
segregated

686
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,160
community.

687
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,400
And he said, "After when we got there,

688
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,560
my brother said, 'Roll down your window

689
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,960
and tell me what you see and smell.'"

690
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,880
So it was kind of shacks with lights

691
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,000
penetrating through these vertical

692
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,640
slats.

693
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,200
And I asked my dad like, "What is that?"

694
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,280
And he said, "These people have

695
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,680
newspapers for insulation."

696
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,960
And he said, "What do you smell?" And I

697
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,520
said said,

698
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,000
"You're right." And he daddy said,

699
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,480
"You mean piss?" And I said, "Yeah,

700
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,360
that's what I smell."

701
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:39,560
And I asked him why and he said,

702
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,520
"There's no These people have

703
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,480
outhouses."

704
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,240
And they um

705
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,200
there's one guy

706
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,920
um Mr. Morris who owns most of this

707
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,200
these black houses.

708
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,600
And he said

709
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,160
these houses are grandfathered in

710
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,800
to the zoning code and it's a

711
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,280
I can't remember what my father said, a

712
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,920
competition between law

713
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,800
and what's right.

714
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,040
And um

715
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,080
So, and he said this is what results.

716
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,720
So,

717
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,520
it's an analogy. Proximity Park,

718
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,280
I think it should be zoned before this

719
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,840
Lightview comes here or any similar

720
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,280
entity.

721
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,920
The zoning

722
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,760
helps us prevent

723
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,320
what my dad showed me in Mexico,

724
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,600
Missouri when I was 12 or 13.

725
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,000
It's a city that smells like piss.

726
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,440
So, I appreciate your time. Thank you

727
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,040
very much.

728
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,670
>> Thank you.

729
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,350
» Brooke Sheets

730
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:00,720
I'm actually not Brooke Sheets. I'm

731
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,240
reading on her behalf, but before you

732
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,960
start the timer, I just want to make

733
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,200
sure the commissioners are aware that

734
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,000
the live stream is not working. I hope

735
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,560
that means we are recording, but just

736
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,760
not streaming.

737
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,400
>> Cuz we have some frustrated people who

738
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,360
thought they were going to be able to

739
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:15,800
watch it, but cannot watch it. So,

740
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,960
Okay, so I'm reading on behalf of um

741
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,800
Brooke Sheets. Um let me find my notes

742
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,440
for her. She lives at 1409 South Elm.

743
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,160
She's unable to be here tonight due to a

744
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,120
family emergency.

745
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:30,720
We all share the same air, the same

746
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,040
water source, and the same soil.

747
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,560
When hearing that a power plant would be

748
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,240
built directly outside our city to

749
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,680
accommodate a data center near homes

750
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,400
with farmland, I was concerned that the

751
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,640
zoning was not appropriate for this

752
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,840
use case or that surrounding areas would

753
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,760
be can affected by eminent domain.

754
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,560
But now I have even more concern in the

755
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,000
area of light pollution, air pollution,

756
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,520
and general disruptions to our health.

757
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,840
There are many third-party studies

758
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,360
pertaining to the impacts of data

759
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,720
centers.

760
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,240
Maybe you've heard of Data Center Alley

761
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,560
in Virginia.

762
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,520
It's been studied extensive extensively,

763
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,320
and these studies have shown many amp

764
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,680
impacts to the people of Virginia per a

765
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,480
subject matter expert

766
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,160
on the Virginia Data Center Belt.

767
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,440
Additionally, many groups have been

768
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,960
working to inform the public of the

769
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,000
risks associated with low-frequency

770
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,960
noise or LFN.

771
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,000
exposure has been associated with

772
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,720
negative physical and mental health

773
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,360
effects to children,

774
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,920
the elderly, and those who live within a

775
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,840
2.5-mile radius of constant long-term

776
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,360
exposure.

777
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,240
Anthropogenic noise, and if you don't

778
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,520
know what that multisyllabic word means,

779
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,800
it refers to unwanted excessive sound

780
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,880
generated by human activities such as

781
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,520
transportation, industrial processes,

782
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,880
and construction that negatively affect

783
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,440
human health and the environment.

784
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,960
This type of noise is distinct from

785
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,320
natural sounds, and it can disrupt

786
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,080
ecosystems and wildlife behaviors.

787
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,600
This noise from data centers can be

788
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,440
heard and or felt by humans and animals

789
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,400
from distances radiating for many more

790
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,840
miles.

791
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,560
The human autonomic nervous system is

792
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,000
subject to cardiovascular disease, high

793
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,200
blood pressure, sleep disorders,

794
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,520
migraines, anxiety, and depression.

795
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,360
I'm sure all of us have experienced this

796
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,760
when we are under stress. Our body goes

797
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,280
haywire.

798
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,800
Is this what we want for our children

799
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,920
and our grandchildren's brain

800
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,840
development while they're at school, or

801
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,640
playing at a park, or participating in

802
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,920
after-school activities?

803
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,800
John Lever, a retired NASA analyst,

804
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,520
actually tracked the noise from a data

805
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,520
center in his own neighborhood as an

806
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,160
advocate for the public interest for the

807
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,760
Prince William Data Center Ordinance

808
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,080
Advisory Group, and he was himself a

809
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,080
member of the Prince William

810
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,000
Planning Commission.

811
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,560
He said, quote, "I'm finding that the

812
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,360
noise is far worse than anybody ever

813
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,120
figured it was going to be, end quote.

814
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,000
Is this possibility really what we want

815
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,720
in our community?

816
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,200
Thank you, and I urge you to take time

817
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,920
to reflect on the situation that we all

818
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,280
find ourselves in. And as others have

819
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,600
said, please pause.

820
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,680
When we know better, we do better. Thank

821
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,640
you.

822
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:09,030
>> Thank you, Corrine Linda.

823
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,800
Thank you all.

824
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,040
Uh we'll skip item seven, appointments,

825
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,440
proclamations, recognitions, and

826
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,840
nominations, as there are none.

827
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,400
That'll take us to item eight, consent

828
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,680
agenda, which which consists of minutes

829
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,480
from the May 20th, 2026 regular meeting,

830
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,440
minutes from the May 27th study session,

831
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,160
and agenda approval.

832
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,600
>> Motion to approve.

833
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,680
>> A motion, is there a second?

834
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,440
>> I'll second.

835
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,160
>> Motion and second, all in favor say I.

836
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:32,800
>> I.

837
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,440
>> All opposed?

838
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,080
Motion passes.

839
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,120
Item nine, declaration. At this time,

840
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,200
I'd like to give the commissioners a

841
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,800
chance to declare any conflict or

842
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,360
communication they might have they have

843
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,160
had that might influence their ability

844
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,720
to consider issues impartially.

845
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,240
Hearing none,

846
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,120
we'll skip item 10, unfinished business,

847
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,480
as there is none. Item 11A, conditional

848
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,680
use permit, 628 South Willow Street.

849
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,080
The planning commission recommends

850
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,320
approval of the conditional use permit

851
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,800
for 628 South Willow Street with the

852
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,760
condition that the sidewalk along South

853
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,880
Willow be completed in accordance with

854
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,600
city standards. And we have city planner

855
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,760
Welms.

856
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,600
Welcome.

857
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,360
>> Good evening, commission.

858
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,920
All right, so this conditional use is

859
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,670
for 628 South Willow Street.

860
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,640
And uh planning commission did recommend

861
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,440
approval of the conditional use with a

862
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,120
um condition.

863
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,640
A little bit of background, this lot is

864
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,000
a vacant 75 by 150 lot, which is about

865
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,760
11,250 square feet. It's currently

866
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,320
vacant and zoned R1.

867
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,320
Uh duplexes are allowed with approval of

868
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,240
a conditional use permit

869
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,400
uh provided that the lot area is greater

870
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,680
than 9,000 sq ft um and the duplex

871
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,080
will also require two parking spaces per

872
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,840
unit.

873
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,680
Uh here's a little bit of background.

874
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,840
The overview shows um it's north of 7th

875
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,440
Street, the second lot in off of Willow.

876
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,710
Ooh.

877
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,080
Here's currently what the street view

878
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,230
looks like.

879
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,200
Uh this is what the developer proposes

880
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,360
uh the duplex to look like. Uh he said

881
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,000
minus the

882
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,840
uh stone facade.

883
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,440
Um but a reminder that nothing is final

884
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,560
until a building permit uh has been

885
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,520
issued.

886
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,760
The findings, staff found that the

887
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,440
proposed conditional use is consistent

888
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,200
with the intent and purpose of the zone

889
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,880
in which it is located.

890
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,560
That the proposed duplex is compatible

891
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,240
to other land uses in the surrounding

892
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,560
neighborhood.

893
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,360
That the proposed duplex will not place

894
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,640
an undue burden on the existing

895
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,360
transportation, utility, and service

896
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,600
facilities in the area.

897
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,520
The proposed duplex is not necessary due

898
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,320
to changed or changing conditions.

899
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,080
The subject property has been vacant for

900
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,640
over 5 years.

901
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,160
The subject property is suitable for the

902
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,040
proposed use.

903
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,720
Staff ha- did recommend approval.

904
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,360
The proposed duplex is in conformance

905
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,800
with the future land use map and the

906
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,880
comprehensive plan duplex will not

907
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,960
adversely affect surrounding properties

908
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,480
so long as all standards are met.

909
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,360
And the planning commission recommended

910
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,200
approval of the condition use permit

911
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,560
with the condition that the sidewalk

912
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,360
along South Willow is completed in

913
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,440
accordance with the city standards.

914
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,840
And with that

915
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,360
I can answer any questions.

916
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,520
>> Thank you. And first of all, it's nice

917
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,159
to meet you. This is the first time

918
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,240
you've come before us and presented.

919
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:35,639
>> Yes. So is there is there anything

920
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:36,960
before we start asking questions that

921
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,960
you want to say about yourself?

922
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,320
>> I grew up in Topeka, went to K State.

923
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,040
My first job out of college was in

924
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,720
Laramie, Wyoming.

925
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:48,879
And now I'm here. And my last name is

926
00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:49,840
pronounced Wilmes.

927
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:55,590
>> Oh, thank you. Wilmes.

928
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,960
» Mr. Wilmes did the planning commission have a

929
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:01,040
public hearing on this?

930
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,800
>> They did.

931
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,160
>> Was there any opposition?

932
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,160
>> There was there was a public comment.

933
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,160
And they commented on the parking.

934
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,200
Um

935
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,680
but I believe their comment was taken

936
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,320
care of after finding out that we would

937
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,120
require two parking spaces per unit.

938
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,080
Um

939
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,400
off-street.

940
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,720
>> No other opposition?

941
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:22,680
>> Thank you.

942
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,240
>> Is there parking allowed on both sides

943
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:25,640
of Willow? Is that correct?

944
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,480
>> I believe so, yes.

945
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,000
>> I just thought that was an issue or not

946
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,640
there, too. Well, I live next door to a

947
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,600
duplex and I see no problem with this

948
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,880
and then the way the construction

949
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,640
appears on what you're describing there

950
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,240
showed me to it'd be certainly be an

951
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:38,960
improvement even to the neighborhood, so

952
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,920
I think it's a great deal we have before

953
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,670
us.

954
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,800
» Yeah, I drove by it today. It looked to

955
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,960
me like there's plenty of room. I mean,

956
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,720
it's a big enough lot and there's not

957
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,040
Yeah, there's not a lot of cars on that

958
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,870
street anyway.

959
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,240
» I know they're concerned about kids

960
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:57,680
walking to school, but I don't think

961
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,160
that school would be used currently for

962
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,200
full-time students. I believe that's not

963
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,000
a

964
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,000
traditional grade school or any anymore.

965
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,840
So I wasn't too concerned about kids

966
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,880
walking by there, but I guess that's

967
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,480
been mitigated with regard to the two

968
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,390
parking places and so yeah.

969
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,520
» I'll go ahead and make the motion we

970
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,200
approve item 11A on our agenda.

971
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,920
>> We have a motion. Is there a second?

972
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,000
>> Second.

973
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,000
>> Motion and second. Any other discussions

974
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,240
or

975
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:27,870
questions?

976
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,200
May I have roll call, please?

977
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,840
>> How do you vote, Commissioner Skidmore?

978
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:31,560
>> Yes.

979
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,840
>> Commissioner Van Leyden?

980
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,480
>> Yes.

981
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,480
>> Commissioner Allen?

982
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:34,960
>> Yes.

983
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,600
>> Mayor pro tem Crowley?

984
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,480
>> Yes.

985
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,200
>> And May- Mayor Clayton?

986
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,600
>> I vote yes. Motion passes.

987
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,040
Thank you.

988
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,430
It was nice to meet you as well.

989
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,160
» That'll take us to item 11B. Consider

990
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,480
resolution setting a public hearing for

991
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,440
the condemnation of structures located

992
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,400
at 1641 South Main Street.

993
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,520
Staff will present a resolution setting

994
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,680
a public hearing to consider whether the

995
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,360
commercial structures at 1641 South Main

996
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,760
should be condemned and ordered repaired

997
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,960
or demolished. And we'll have property

998
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,590
improvement partner Hodges.

999
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,080
» Greetings.

1000
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,240
I'm Keith Hodges. I work for the

1001
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,920
community development department and for

1002
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,440
you. Uh

1003
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,800
We have two items that are very similar

1004
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,400
on today's agenda. Both of them ask you

1005
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,560
to consider setting a hearing date to uh

1006
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,040
consider ordering a demolition or

1007
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,920
repairs on two separate properties.

1008
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,760
Uh this is the first. It's Knights Inn,

1009
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,680
which I'm sure you're all familiar with.

1010
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,360
At 17th and Main here in Ottawa, was

1011
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,400
destroyed in the tornado.

1012
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,760
Um

1013
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,390
Pretty significant damage.

1014
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,680
The The background on this is is pretty

1015
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,680
simple. Severely damaged by the storm.

1016
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,040
The property is at one of Ottawa's

1017
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,680
busiest intersections, highly accessible

1018
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,120
to the public, and highly visible.

1019
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,680
Multiple buildings lost their roofs, as

1020
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,280
you can see in the pictures.

1021
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,920
Remained open to the weather, and so

1022
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,920
they further deteriorate- deteriorated

1023
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,990
since the uh storm.

1024
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,720
Building materials have continued to

1025
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,680
blow outside of the fencing that we

1026
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,520
required them to put up to control for

1027
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,200
access and to control for

1028
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,200
um the damage spreading out into the

1029
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,000
public.

1030
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,440
Uh no repair or demolition permits have

1031
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,760
been pulled.

1032
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,400
More than 6 weeks have passed since the

1033
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,160
tornado.

1034
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,240
KDHE has required that an invest

1035
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:36,280
asbestos inspection

1036
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,920
be performed before any demolition

1037
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,200
begins.

1038
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,000
Now, the owner has been cooperative with

1039
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,320
us and is actually supportive of this

1040
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,840
process and hopes that it will help uh

1041
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,680
apply pressure to its insurance carrier

1042
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,840
to make a decision on the claim here. He

1043
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,160
wants to demolish these buildings

1044
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:59,960
uh and and uh and move on. But, uh the process has has not been as fast

1045
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,640
as he had hoped. Our city attorney, uh

1046
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,680
Mr. Finch, has contacted the carrier and

1047
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,920
uh

1048
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,800
sent a pretty uh compelling message

1049
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,520
notifying them of our lien rights and uh

1050
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:19,750
urging a prompt resolution to this.

1051
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,040
The financial considerations.

1052
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,160
Uh the owner is Mar Parvati LLC.

1053
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,240
The property was appraised at $814,000

1054
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:31,520
by the county.

1055
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,120
Uh 453 of that has been the improvements

1056
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,720
on the property and about 312,000 in

1057
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:39,000
land land value.

1058
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,440
Taxes are

1059
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,600
uh not behind.

1060
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,880
They have paid the the uh

1061
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,960
the half that they needed to pay and owe

1062
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,280
another 15,546

1063
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,400
later on this year.

1064
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,400
It is mortgaged for most of the

1065
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,800
appraised value

1066
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,840
at 728,200

1067
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,720
uh to Oxar Bank.

1068
00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:01,800
It's insured by Lloyd's of London.

1069
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,520
The claim is actually being processed by

1070
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,000
a claims administrator and not by

1071
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,310
Lloyd's themselves.

1072
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,440
If the city decides to um

1073
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,480
after the hearing Of course, this is not

1074
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,880
what we're asking you to decide today.

1075
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,320
We're just asking that you consider it

1076
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,320
important enough to set a hearing date

1077
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,030
to hear from all sides.

1078
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,720
But if after the hearing the city

1079
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:31,440
determines that repairs or demolition is the right route and so

1080
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,440
orders that

1081
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,480
if the property owner doesn't carry out

1082
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,880
those orders then the city has the right

1083
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,520
to contract for that and charge the

1084
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,080
expenses to the property.

1085
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,000
Then if they're not paid, tax lien on

1086
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,750
the property is possible.

1087
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,910
So

1088
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,680
I wanted to briefly outline to you this

1089
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,400
process according to article 14 of codes

1090
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,360
which govern this process.

1091
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,080
Uh

1092
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,800
number one is where we're at today,

1093
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,520
which is just setting a hearing date.

1094
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,560
Then the uh our department would carry

1095
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,760
out the proper notifications.

1096
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,520
Which is why we ask for some time

1097
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,800
between now and the hearing date to

1098
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,080
carry that out according to the uh statutes.

1099
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,320
And we would mail certified letters and

1100
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,640
publish notifications in the newspaper.

1101
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,400
And then when the hearing is held you

1102
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,880
will hear from the property owners.

1103
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,000
Uh and uh and from our department, our

1104
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,840
recommendations.

1105
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,120
And you'll have the opportunity to order

1106
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,080
repairs or demolitions.

1107
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,960
You have other opportunity other options

1108
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,840
as well, but those are the two

1109
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,000
significant options that you can that

1110
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,440
you can order.

1111
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,840
And you can issue a deadline to begin

1112
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,080
work.

1113
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,280
The community development department

1114
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,400
within within monitor that process

1115
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,840
to make sure that your orders are being

1116
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,920
carried out.

1117
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,600
And if the work is not started on time

1118
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,280
or diligently pursued once it is begun

1119
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,840
then the city has the option as I said

1120
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,880
before to carry out the demolition

1121
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,630
repairs with its own contractor.

1122
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,280
If we pay for the repairs, the owner is

1123
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,280
billed. If the owner doesn't pay, then

1124
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,960
uh the city can place a tax lien on the

1125
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,080
property.

1126
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,800
Which does run with the land, so that if

1127
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,560
there is a buyer,

1128
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:26,710
that tax lien still holds.

1129
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:29,120
So, our recommendation is that a public

1130
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,520
hearing be set

1131
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,040
no earlier than July 22nd,

1132
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,320
and the resolution that we are

1133
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,800
recommending does name July 22nd as the

1134
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,360
date

1135
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,400
to consider ordering ordering the repair

1136
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,160
or demolition of the structures.

1137
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,480
Your alternatives are to follow our

1138
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,840
recommendation or deny the request

1139
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,960
or defer

1140
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,080
to a future agenda for continued

1141
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,110
deliberation.

1142
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:57,600
» Thank you.

1143
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,720
>> Oh, I'm good. I have a question for you

1144
00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:03,480
on that. Um, so July 22nd being well

1145
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,800
over a month out, say um the ball gets

1146
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,400
rolling with the insurance company,

1147
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,000
everything, we've already set the public

1148
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,480
hearing date. Are we then able to cancel

1149
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,760
that hearing legally since it's been

1150
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,840
published or do you still have to have

1151
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,840
the hearing to go through the motions or

1152
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,320
how does that work?

1153
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,680
>> If the commission decided to take the

1154
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,520
public hearing off of its agenda, it

1155
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,560
could do that.

1156
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,240
>> Okay.

1157
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:26,480
Thank you.

1158
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,440
>> And thank you to you as well for

1159
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,720
everything, and it's nice to meet you,

1160
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:31,360
too. So, a lot of new faces tonight from

1161
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,640
community development.

1162
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,240
>> the city.

1163
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:35,440
>> Yeah. Thank you. Um

1164
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,040
is it all of the buildings? Just the

1165
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,440
specific buildings that are most

1166
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,800
extensively damaged? Do we Do we have an

1167
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,760
assessment on what that condemnation

1168
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,280
would look like? Is it

1169
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,600
at this point is it Are we looking at

1170
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,320
>> That's a great question. There are Let

1171
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,920
me see if I can back up a little bit.

1172
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,240
You can see Can you see all five

1173
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:55,960
structures there? Yeah. Um if you look

1174
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,600
at the top picture, you'll see on the

1175
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,160
left there's a little office building.

1176
00:43:59,160 --> 00:43:59,840
>> Mhm.

1177
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,640
>> And then it is the only building that

1178
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:08,400
the owner feels, and uh some of our advisors agree with this is

1179
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,880
the only building that might be

1180
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,240
salvageable.

1181
00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:12,960
However, the insurance company is

1182
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,880
arguing that the largest building that's

1183
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,520
shaped like an L

1184
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,920
is at least partially salvageable.

1185
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,880
So, the insurance company at this point

1186
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,480
has designated

1187
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,680
two of the five buildings as as

1188
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,440
uh

1189
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,400
ready for demolition. That when they

1190
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,160
settle they haven't settled yet. They

1191
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,960
said when they when we settle, we're

1192
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,000
pretty comfortable with ordering it with

1193
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,280
uh paying for a demolition on these, but

1194
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,000
uh two or three of the other buildings

1195
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,200
they're still debating.

1196
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:43,520
>> Thank you.

1197
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,280
>> Um but to answer your question, the city

1198
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,040
would have options. And you as the

1199
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,360
governing body would be able to order

1200
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,320
various options and it might be a

1201
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,800
building-by-building decision or it

1202
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,760
might be a whole property all at once.

1203
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,710
>> Thank you.

1204
00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:00,880
And then do you have an idea you'd

1205
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,520
mentioned we would set the time frame

1206
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,720
from if we you know, deemed it condemned

1207
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:08,200
to when it would have to be torn down or

1208
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,680
you see meaningful work towards that.

1209
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,320
Is there a typical time frame that that

1210
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,880
looks like? Is that 60 days, 30 days,

1211
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:14,600
90?

1212
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,360
>> Finch has said typically 30 days and

1213
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,480
then you would have the option of

1214
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,760
extending deadlines. The code says a

1215
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,760
reasonable amount of time to carry out

1216
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,910
the work.

1217
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,800
» Thank you.

1218
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,240
>> Mr. Hodges, I know we're talking about

1219
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:30,720
the Knights Inn right now, but while we

1220
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:32,400
have this picture up, the front built

1221
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,200
that the bottom picture,

1222
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,000
um that's the McCarty Mechanical

1223
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,480
Building or Mechanics Building.

1224
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,720
Uh do we have any update on the

1225
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:41,200
structure on the north side of it

1226
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,360
because it's, you know, pretty much uh

1227
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,800
demolished, too.

1228
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,880
>> Um yes, we they are working on getting

1229
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,120
that demolished. They don't have any

1230
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,880
precise plans right now. Um I don't want

1231
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,360
to divulge too much because of private

1232
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,080
discussions, but they're they're in uh

1233
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,760
um some discussions about the ownership

1234
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,840
status of of the property and and that

1235
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,760
may affect their plans. Okay. they've

1236
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,040
been very cooperative as well

1237
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,720
and and

1238
00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:07,080
I expect they're going to resolve that

1239
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,600
problem maybe not as soon as we'd like,

1240
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,880
but we do know that the structure itself

1241
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,560
the rest of that structure

1242
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,760
it doesn't appear to be an unsound

1243
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,080
structure at this point.

1244
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,120
>> Just the adjoining structure on the

1245
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:19,640
north.

1246
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,400
>> Right. And we did have them fence that

1247
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,640
off. So, I don't know if you can even

1248
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,440
see it in this picture, but we did have

1249
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,160
them at least fence that off so it's

1250
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,920
less of attraction for uh

1251
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,560
>> People are breaking in

1252
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,760
>> do things that I would have done when I

1253
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:34,600
was young.

1254
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,350
>> Thank you.

1255
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,040
Um thank you. Along with that um

1256
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,640
pending you know determination, would

1257
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,440
that also include filling in the the

1258
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,160
pool or would it be structure demolition

1259
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,640
leaving the pool? Would that be included

1260
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:48,240
in potential

1261
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:49,400
>> That's a good question. I don't know the

1262
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,270
answer to that.

1263
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,800
I imagine you would have options on that

1264
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,750
as well.

1265
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,800
» Uh do you know does the owner you know

1266
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,640
prefer to prefer to rebuild or or what their plans are? Have they

1267
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,000
mentioned

1268
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,600
>> The owners made it clear that they want

1269
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,080
to demolish. They wanted to they want it

1270
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,000
all gone.

1271
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:09,240
>> Uh-huh.

1272
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:11,480
>> And whether he wants to hang on to the

1273
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,560
land and rebuild, he wasn't so clear on

1274
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,360
that, but

1275
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,840
my suspicion is he wants to take the

1276
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:26,310
money and move on.

1277
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,320
» Thank you for this and you said the

1278
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,040
resolution that we'd be voting on is

1279
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,320
July 22nd.

1280
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,390
>> It was a public hearing.

1281
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,200
» Mr. Mayor, I'll make the motion that we

1282
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,520
set a public hearing for the

1283
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,200
condemnation of structures located at

1284
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,000
1641 South Main for

1285
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,240
July 22nd of 2026.

1286
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:46,640
>> I'll second that.

1287
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,120
>> We have a motion and a second. Any other

1288
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,000
discussion?

1289
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,080
>> Can I Can I just clarify that motion

1290
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,400
that you're passing the resolution that

1291
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,360
sets that date for that time?

1292
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,960
Perfect. How do you vote, Commissioner

1293
00:47:58,960 --> 00:47:59,760
Skidmore?

1294
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:00,520
>> Yes.

1295
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:01,720
>> Commissioner Van Leyden?

1296
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:02,360
>> Yes.

1297
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,360
>> Commissioner Allen?

1298
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:03,840
>> Yes.

1299
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,080
>> Mayor Pro Tem Crowley?

1300
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:05,680
>> Yes.

1301
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,560
>> And Mayor Clayton?

1302
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,120
>> I vote yes. Motion passes. Thank you.

1303
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,160
That'll take us to item 11C.

1304
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,000
Consider resolution setting a public

1305
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,360
hearing for the condemnation of

1306
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,560
structures located at 1017 South Ash

1307
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,840
Street. Staff will present a resolution

1308
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,280
setting a public hearing to consider

1309
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,720
whether the structures at 1017 South Ash

1310
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:27,880
should be condemned and ordered repaired

1311
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,520
or demolished.

1312
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,080
>> Thank you. Yeah, so here we have same

1313
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,240
question, different property. Uh 1017

1314
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:38,520
South Ash, close to the high school. I'm

1315
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,440
uh some of you may be familiar with this

1316
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,240
property. This is the view from uh Ash

1317
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:44,280
Street

1318
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,880
uh looking east toward the property.

1319
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,960
There are two structures here, and I'll

1320
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,800
refer to the one on the left as the

1321
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,680
north structure, and the structure on

1322
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,560
the south on the right as the south

1323
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,800
structure. The structure on the right

1324
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,480
um has has five units, and they face to

1325
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,320
our right, so they don't face Ash

1326
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,200
Street. Uh it's it's bigger than it

1327
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,440
looks in that picture.

1328
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,920
And once again, the staff recommends the

1329
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,400
city commission set a public hearing

1330
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,120
date. Again, we're not talking about

1331
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,920
what to do today with the buildings, but

1332
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,240
to just to decide to set a hearing

1333
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,520
to order the repair or demolition of the

1334
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,910
structures at 1017 South Ash.

1335
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,120
The background on this, uh as I said,

1336
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,640
there are two structures. The top

1337
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,960
building is the north structure,

1338
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,600
and the bottom building is the uh south

1339
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,720
structure.

1340
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:37,880
The north building has had two units. It

1341
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,840
was fire damaged in October of last

1342
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,600
year. It's currently unoccupied,

1343
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,520
and uh it's it's beyond repair.

1344
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,160
The south building has five units.

1345
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,760
There was also a fire in this building

1346
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,120
in 2022 and two units were burned.

1347
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,760
One unit that was burned, the more

1348
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,800
severely burned of the two,

1349
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,880
remains gutted with charred joists. It's

1350
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,880
unrepaired and unoccupied.

1351
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,440
The other unit that was damaged appears

1352
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,880
to be occupied.

1353
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,120
The owner has on at least two

1354
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,960
occasions

1355
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,240
prevented denied access to city

1356
00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:18,070
inspection.

1357
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,280
But there's no reason there's no

1358
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,920
evidence in the system right now that it

1359
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,360
has been repaired. Permits and such are

1360
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,830
lacking.

1361
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,120
Um

1362
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,600
of the of the five units

1363
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,040
three

1364
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:34,600
uh

1365
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,720
appear to be lived in. One by the owner

1366
00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:39,960
one in the fire-damaged unit, the

1367
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,840
suspected fire-damaged unit, and one in

1368
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,920
another unit. We were not We were

1369
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,080
allowed to inspect the owner's unit. The

1370
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,480
unoccupied fire-damaged unit, which

1371
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,000
you'll see later in pictures right

1372
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,080
there.

1373
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,160
Um and but we were not allowed to

1374
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,680
inspect either of the units occupied by

1375
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,680
tenants.

1376
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,480
Uh further

1377
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,840
uh

1378
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,480
possible correction is that there is a

1379
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,680
attic space that the owner was trying to

1380
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,280
repair and rent out as a sixth unit. But

1381
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:13,920
um

1382
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,480
he he was told during a recent

1383
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,760
inspection that that he cannot do that.

1384
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,320
Both structures have additional code

1385
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:26,390
violations beyond the fire damage.

1386
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,760
In addition to the structural code

1387
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,680
violations, there are many code

1388
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,880
violations on regarding the the general

1389
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,400
management of the property and the

1390
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,800
grounds.

1391
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,600
In the past 9 years, 19 nuisance cases

1392
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,640
uh show up in our system.

1393
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,480
29 written notices were sent. No

1394
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,520
responses are in our system from the

1395
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,160
owner.

1396
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,040
The code violations that persisted

1397
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,160
several years ago persist today.

1398
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,200
They include things like inoperable

1399
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,600
vehicles on the grounds.

1400
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,360
Construction materials that are just

1401
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,560
piled up.

1402
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,640
Trailers full of garbage, things like

1403
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,920
that. Chapter 10 environment code

1404
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,360
violations.

1405
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:12,600
Furthermore,

1406
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:13,720
um

1407
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:16,960
there have been 175 police calls for

1408
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,640
service in the last 10 years.

1409
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,840
And two fires in the last 4 years.

1410
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,320
These are things that you can take into

1411
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,960
consideration beyond just the structural

1412
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,830
considerations on this building.

1413
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,150
Uh financial considerations.

1414
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,200
It's owned by

1415
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,960
the uh LLC 1017 South Ash LLC.

1416
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,960
It was appraised at $84,000

1417
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,320
uh for 2025.

1418
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,800
Of that 84,000, 11,000

1419
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,440
760 is the appraised value combined for

1420
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,400
the two structures.

1421
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,560
So, the vast majority of that appraised

1422
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,960
value is land.

1423
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,720
The taxes are up to date.

1424
00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:09,160
Uh total tax bill 1358 for the year. 653

1425
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,390
is the balance still owed.

1426
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,160
Uh one thing to consider, and this is

1427
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,360
true for both properties, and this may

1428
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,040
come into play should you hold a hearing

1429
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,480
and and decide on on on on uh what

1430
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,840
action to take, uh or it may not. Um it

1431
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,200
one thing to note though is that

1432
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,920
the code requires that if the repair

1433
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,640
costs exceed 50% of the fair market

1434
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,160
value of the structure, then the order

1435
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,830
must be demolition and not repairs.

1436
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,760
Uh once again, in In case if the owner

1437
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,360
fails to act, the city can proceed with

1438
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,720
its own demolition or repairs.

1439
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:47,120
Um and if necessary, this steam the city

1440
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,880
can place a tax lien on the property to

1441
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,190
recover its costs.

1442
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,360
» And just to go back to that slide, just

1443
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,880
a quick question here. So, the uh

1444
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,200
okay. So, if the 50% of fair market

1445
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,360
value of both structures, we're not

1446
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,560
talking about the $12,000 there. We're

1447
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,040
talking fair market value of the

1448
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,920
structures.

1449
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,160
>> Not the property as a whole.

1450
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:07,480
>> Mhm.

1451
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,360
>> Yeah, but just but just that the 12,000

1452
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:09,880
right there.

1453
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:10,160
>> Right.

1454
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,200
>> So, 50% would be about 6,000, right?

1455
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:13,880
>> Well, repairs can

1456
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,440
>> Combined.

1457
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,200
>> Both properties.

1458
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:16,920
>> Okay.

1459
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:17,880
>> I think anybody's going to be able to

1460
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,760
repair that for 6,000 or less. So, okay,

1461
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:21,160
I get the

1462
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,840
>> I'm no builder, but

1463
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,920
>> I think Mr. Clayton would agree.

1464
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:29,510
Make sure I asked him that. Thanks.

1465
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,120
» So, once again, the legal considerations

1466
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,400
here are the same as for Knights Inn,

1467
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,720
but um

1468
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:35,240
just for clarity's sake, we'll repeat

1469
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:36,960
them. Uh the city commission sets a

1470
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,240
public hearing date. That's what we're

1471
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:40,440
asking for today.

1472
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,200
The next thing that the Article 14

1473
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,240
uh

1474
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:46,600
requires is that we notify

1475
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,440
anyone with an interest in the property.

1476
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,760
Then the hearing is held.

1477
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,520
Commission listens to the owner and

1478
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,000
staff and the public.

1479
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,840
And the commission then may

1480
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,280
issue a resolution with its finding to

1481
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,760
uh repair or demolish with a deadline to

1482
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,160
begin work.

1483
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:06,480
Then your community development

1484
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,560
department would monitor the compliance

1485
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,200
with that.

1486
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,360
And if the work is not started on time

1487
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,920
or if the work is not diligently

1488
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,240
pursued,

1489
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:17,480
city can carry out the orders uh

1490
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:18,680
themselves.

1491
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,920
And then once again, the city if

1492
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,400
the city pays for the demolition or

1493
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,880
repair costs,

1494
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,000
the owner's billed, and if the owner

1495
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,880
doesn't pay, tax lien can be filed on

1496
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,630
the property.

1497
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,160
As with before,

1498
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,160
the recommendation is that the

1499
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,640
commission set a public hearing date

1500
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:38,200
uh

1501
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,840
on or after July 22nd and again July

1502
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,280
22nd is the hearing date in the

1503
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,360
resolution that we suggest

1504
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,320
uh

1505
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,760
to consider ordering repair or

1506
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,720
demolition of the structures at 1017

1507
00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:50,920
Ash.

1508
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,080
The alternatives are to deny the request

1509
00:55:53,080 --> 00:56:03,190
or to defer to a future agenda date.

1510
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,560
» Thank you. Do you know

1511
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,520
with these being potentially rentals

1512
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,960
is there any process from today when we

1513
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,080
if we if we do set the public hearing

1514
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,640
date to notify the tenants

1515
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,280
that there is a possibility that they

1516
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,720
may not have a place to live in 90 days

1517
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:21,360
or if the owner's not telling the

1518
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,520
tenants

1519
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,760
that they would be notified now so they

1520
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,160
can at least start a process?

1521
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,440
>> Yes, sir. They're they're one of the

1522
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,640
people who get notified by certified

1523
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,120
mail and Mr. Finch has also advised us

1524
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,920
to post it on their door and I will

1525
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,840
personally knock on their doors and talk

1526
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,760
to them to make sure they understand.

1527
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:45,110
>> Thank you.

1528
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,160
» And that'll happen

1529
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,320
almost immediately after your vote today.

1530
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:57,110
>> Okay.

1531
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,680
Do we have any other questions or how do

1532
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:04,270
we like to proceed with item 11C?

1533
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,480
» Mr. Mayor

1534
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,040
I move that we approve item 11C on our

1535
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,520
agenda.

1536
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,960
>> We have a motion. Is there a second?

1537
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,560
>> Second.

1538
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:14,560
>> Motion and a second. Any other

1539
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,710
discussion?

1540
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:18,640
Hearing none, may I have roll call,

1541
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:19,600
please?

1542
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,240
>> How do you vote, Commissioner Skidmore?

1543
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,040
>> Yes.

1544
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,760
>> Commissioner Commissioner Van Leyden?

1545
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,360
>> Yes.

1546
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,200
>> Commissioner Allen?

1547
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:25,760
>> Yes.

1548
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,040
>> Mayor Pro Tem Crowley?

1549
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:27,640
>> Yes.

1550
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:28,480
>> And Mayor Clayton?

1551
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,880
>> I vote yes. Motion passes.

1552
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:31,760
Thank you.

1553
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:46,350
>> Thank you.

1554
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,400
» That will take us to item 12, comments

1555
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:59,710
by our city manager.

1556
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,040
» Don't Don't take that as a sign of they don't

1557
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:03,600
want to listen to you.

1558
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,120
>> Yeah, that's I'm a little disappointed.

1559
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,590
We're just getting to the good parts.

1560
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,240
» Uh honorable mayor and commission, uh

1561
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,440
water plant continued troubleshooting on

1562
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,720
the three basin and managed ongoing pool

1563
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,800
system issues. Uh

1564
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,320
pool has been a little foggy with the

1565
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,480
rain, but you know, just want to let

1566
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,240
everyone know if there are safety issues

1567
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,960
with that water, we will close down the

1568
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,360
pool. We are testing it, but trying to

1569
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,000
get it dialed in with the excess rain

1570
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,160
here. Um water distribution crews

1571
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,120
responded to a water main break,

1572
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,560
completed sewer repairs, and continued

1573
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,720
work on the 19th Street waterline

1574
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,320
project. Uh production completed

1575
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,160
cleaning and inspections on critical

1576
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,520
cooling tower and uh fuel stool storage

1577
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,910
infrastructure.

1578
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,440
Over in public works, uh parks

1579
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,120
department completed mowing and weed

1580
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,440
eating across parks, trails, and

1581
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,480
cemeteries. Uh streets department

1582
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,720
continued work on uh 10th Street

1583
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,160
improvements.

1584
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,120
Few pictures of those there.

1585
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,480
Just wanted to remind everyone, got

1586
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,080
quite a few events in Ottawa here on

1587
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,200
Saturday. I have the duck race down at

1588
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,960
City Park. That's from 10:00 a.m. to

1589
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,720
1:00 p.m. Uh Treasures in Ottawa down at

1590
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,640
Lake Legacy Square from 9:00 a.m. to

1591
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,280
3:00 p.m.

1592
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,000
Uh city band concert at the OMA on

1593
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,920
Tuesday, June 9th. That's at 7:30.

1594
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,000
And then reminder of those uh two watch

1595
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,960
parties uh coming up this month for

1596
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,710
the upcoming World Cup.

1597
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,280
I just got a flyer here for Teen Safety

1598
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,390
Academy.

1599
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,320
Attendant of items for the June 10th

1600
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,670
meeting recognition of

1601
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,800
I won't try to say his name Raymond for

1602
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,640
completion of the power plant operator

1603
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,520
course KMEA Board of Directors

1604
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,960
auto representative Kansas Municipal Gas

1605
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,680
Agency appointment of a representative

1606
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,840
to that board and then proclamation

1607
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,600
recognizing June 19th, 2026 is June

1608
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,080
10th.

1609
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,800
Just reminder we have some open

1610
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,000
positions right now. So encourage folks

1611
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,960
to go to our website and apply for those

1612
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,630
vacancies.

1613
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,390
I'll take any questions.

1614
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,400
Thank you.

1615
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,000
I don't know if

1616
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,030
>> Any questions for city manager or staff?

1617
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,480
Nope. I don't think so this week. Thank

1618
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,800
you.

1619
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,640
That'll take us to item 13 comments by

1620
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,320
governing body Commissioner Van Leeton.

1621
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,640
I got no comment tonight.

1622
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:41,760
Commissioner Allen.

1623
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,600
>> I was just going to add to the busy down

1624
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,320
June 6th.

1625
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,400
I was trying to pull up the email. It

1626
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,040
looks like there is a Prairie Spirit

1627
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,280
Rail Trail 30th Anniversary celebration

1628
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,120
in Garnett at 9:30 to which of course

1629
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,320
goes through Ottawa. The trail does so

1630
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,160
let's go celebrate in Garnett.

1631
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:00,000
>> Yeah.

1632
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:00,840
>> That's all I have.

1633
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,800
>> Thank you.

1634
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:03,920
Commissioner Skidmore.

1635
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,160
>> Well, I just wanted to commend DJ on

1636
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,240
your mowing again uh

1637
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,960
with all the rains we've had and you

1638
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,320
guys been able to sandwich those in

1639
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:11,560
between the rains. I don't know how you

1640
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,600
do it. I can't even do that on my small

1641
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,560
yard. You did it for the whole city. So

1642
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,040
thank you for that. I played disc golf

1643
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:17,760
at

1644
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,880
Kansas Park this today. It was nicely

1645
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,400
all mowed. I can't blame the tall grass

1646
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,400
for my scores, so it was well well

1647
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,280
manicured, I must say. But, it looks

1648
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,000
nice and then again, compliments to you

1649
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,320
and your department. Kudos.

1650
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,120
>> Thank you. Mayor Pro Tem Crawley.

1651
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,120
>> I have no comments.

1652
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,920
>> Um I will just say you stole my one

1653
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,480
about the Prairie Spirit Rail Trail. Um

1654
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,560
the event begins at 9:30. They're having

1655
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,600
a bike ride, run, walk, and a few other

1656
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,040
things down there in Garnett um for the

1657
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,920
30-year anniversary of the trail. Along

1658
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,440
with trails, this past weekend was the

1659
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,000
Unbound Gravel Race in Emporia. Um and I

1660
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,320
know last week there were several folks

1661
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,160
in town from that. I think they said

1662
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,640
seven continents, 54 countries, and

1663
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,520
every single state was in Emporia last

1664
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,680
week and

1665
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,560
um it was a muddy mess, it looked like.

1666
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,240
Um I know some businesses here in town

1667
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,440
were down there.

1668
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,480
Um so, that was just a a great thing for

1669
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,840
the trail community as well.

1670
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:10,960
Um

1671
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,880
I do want to welcome uh our Ottawa Main

1672
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,920
Street Association is hosting quarterly

1673
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,200
training for all of the Kansas directors

1674
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,000
who are in town this week.

1675
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,440
Um and then I did want to ask a question

1676
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:22,760
of staff. I'm not sure who would be the

1677
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,520
best person to direct to.

1678
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,040
Um I've heard there's a building

1679
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,960
downtown that has had a roof collapsed

1680
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,120
and we

1681
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,360
and just wondered if there was any

1682
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,120
updates about that, if there's any

1683
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,760
concerns, anything with that.

1684
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,160
>> Uh Mr. Mayor, I believe we'll have

1685
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,280
something on the commission agenda for

1686
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,120
next week on that subject, so

1687
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:44,640
um probably similar to what you saw

1688
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,360
tonight, just go ahead and setting that

1689
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,080
public hearing and

1690
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,120
you know, again, when we're setting

1691
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,000
these hearings, we're not really taking

1692
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,640
action on the first time, so it allows

1693
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,040
an opportunity for the owners to to

1694
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,360
visit, attend that public hearing, and kind of make the case of what the

1695
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,400
plans are for repairs, so

1696
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:02,760
>> Okay.

1697
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,720
>> obviously, if repair, temporary or

1698
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,400
permanent, happens before then, we can

1699
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:07,400
always

1700
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,040
take that off the agenda if it's added,

1701
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,960
but that'll be up for your consideration

1702
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,040
as early as next week.

1703
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:13,480
>> Perfect.

1704
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,720
>> Thank you.

1705
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,080
Um

1706
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,160
with no other comments,

1707
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,040
that'll take us to item

1708
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,880
14, announcements.

1709
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,640
June 10th commission meeting is here at

1710
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,320
4:00 p.m. in City Hall. June 17th

1711
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,120
commission meeting is here at 10:00 a.m.

1712
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,720
in City Hall. And June 24th study

1713
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,400
session is here at 4:00 p.m. in City

1714
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,800
Hall.

1715
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,160
No other matters to come before the

1716
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,560
commission, we are adjourned.