1 00:08:11,039 --> 00:08:13,840 Are we good online? 2 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:14,710 >> Good [clears throat] evening. Welcome to 3 00:08:14,710 --> 00:08:14,720 » Good [clears throat] evening. Welcome to 4 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,639 Oido City Council Chambers. If everyone 5 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:17,840 could please rise for the pledge of 6 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,390 >> allegiance 7 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,560 to the flag of the United States of 8 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,120 America and to the republic for it 9 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,840 stands one nation 10 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,240 indivisible with liberty and justice for 11 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,070 all. 12 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:45,990 » Please join me in a moment of silence. 13 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,279 I would like to call our meeting to 14 00:08:47,279 --> 00:08:50,160 order. It is January 5th, 2026 at 15 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,000 approximately 6:30 p.m. and we have all 16 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,080 members of council present. We're going 17 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,240 to start off with our ceremonial items. 18 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,519 So, I believe we're going to go down 19 00:08:57,519 --> 00:08:58,720 there and I'll hand it over to the 20 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,640 mayor. 21 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,350 >> All right. As we head down here, want to 22 00:09:03,350 --> 00:09:03,360 » All right. As we head down here, want to 23 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,839 draw your attention to Noah here on the 24 00:09:05,839 --> 00:09:09,360 front row, who is a state champion for 25 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,760 diving. And Coach Getty is going to 26 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,040 share a little bit about him. But come 27 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,320 on up here. Come on up here because we 28 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,920 want to see who he's talking about as he 29 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,040 is. 30 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,509 >> Yeah. Face that way. Thank you. Okay. 31 00:09:19,509 --> 00:09:19,519 » Yeah. Face that way. Thank you. Okay. 32 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:20,560 And I'm going to pass this to Coach 33 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,480 Getty. 34 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:23,910 >> Welcome everyone. And thank you for 35 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:23,920 » Welcome everyone. And thank you for 36 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,560 being here this evening. This fine young 37 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:29,440 gentleman, Noah Stac last year was our 38 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,839 state runner up at Hagerty in diving. 39 00:09:31,839 --> 00:09:34,240 This year as he hits to the board again, 40 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,480 he is a conference champion for the 41 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,560 seminal athletic conference, a district 42 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:41,360 three champion for the FHSAA, the region 43 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,560 one FHSAA champion and the 4A FHSA state 44 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:49,519 champion. Noah also competes on some 45 00:09:49,519 --> 00:09:51,920 higher levels. He works with team USA 46 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,839 and has competed both here in the United 47 00:09:53,839 --> 00:09:57,040 States and overseas and he will continue 48 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,360 his career at the University of South 49 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,839 Carolina. He has been a blessing for our 50 00:10:01,839 --> 00:10:04,160 school. He is a super talented athlete. 51 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,160 He's an even better student. We are 52 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,560 happy to be able to call him ours and uh 53 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:10,560 we wish him luck and thank you for 54 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:12,399 having us in this evening. It's good to 55 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:14,800 see a lot of familiar faces as well. 56 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,017 Thank you. 57 00:10:17,017 --> 00:10:23,110 [applause] 58 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,600 We got got to add this in. So for him to 59 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,160 practice, there's no pool that is safe 60 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,279 for him to dive in. He goes down to 61 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:33,760 iDrive to this pool that has a super 62 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,880 deep well 5 days a week. It is an 63 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,120 incredible commitment, an incredible 64 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,800 show of self-discipline, and we're just 65 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,000 so proud of you. So let's go to the 66 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,680 middle here so we can grab a picture. 67 00:10:43,680 --> 00:11:10,310 And your family, too. 68 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,760 Everybody take a few pictures. So, 69 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:27,092 Congratulations. 70 00:11:27,102 --> 00:11:57,590 [applause] 71 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:22,389 family has a cell phone. 72 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:26,710 Instagram, 73 00:12:26,720 --> 00:13:00,949 Tik Tok. 74 00:13:00,959 --> 00:13:04,800 All All right, next up we have the uh 75 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,639 250th 76 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:08,800 anniversary of the United States of 77 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,760 America. Whereas July 4th, 2026 78 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,000 commemorates the 250th anniversary of 79 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,279 the signing of the Declaration of 80 00:13:15,279 --> 00:13:17,200 Independence, proclaiming America's 81 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,600 independence and absolving all 82 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,839 allegiance to the all allegiance to the 83 00:13:21,839 --> 00:13:23,680 Kingdom of Great Britain and King George 84 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:26,480 III. And whereas and declaring 85 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,320 themselves free and independent states, 86 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,480 the 13 colonies fundamentally altered 87 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,720 the political landscape of the Western 88 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,880 Hemisphere, inaugurating an era of 89 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,240 representative government that would 90 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,320 reverberate across the world throughout 91 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,959 the next two centuries. And whereas the 92 00:13:40,959 --> 00:13:44,079 revolutionary spirit ignited in 1776 was 93 00:13:44,079 --> 00:13:46,800 slow to reach the untamed, sparsely 94 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,040 populated British controlled colonies of 95 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,440 East and West Florida, which Britain 96 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,320 rested from Spain during the Seven Years 97 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,360 War. And whereas following their return 98 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,000 to Spain's control after the American 99 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,360 Revolution, East and West Florida became 100 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,079 increasingly untenable possessions for a 101 00:14:06,079 --> 00:14:09,519 weakening uh empire. And whereas 102 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:11,519 tumultuous events around the world and 103 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:14,240 in east and west Florida led Spain to 104 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,560 seed the territory to the fledgling 105 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:19,040 United States in 1821. 106 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,920 And whereas Andrew Jackson, a provincial 107 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,360 governor, who also happened to be 108 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,000 Florida's first governor, it combined 109 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,240 East and West Florida into the single 110 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,160 territory of Florida, which attained 111 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,120 statehood in 1845, with much of its 112 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,360 lands remaining untamed until the late 113 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,040 1860s. 114 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,639 And whereas at the 20th 27th state 115 00:14:40,639 --> 00:14:43,600 admitted to the union, Florida claimed 116 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,000 its place among the free and independent 117 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,240 states, eventually transforming from an 118 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,240 untamed frontier into what would become 119 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,519 the nation's third most populous state. 120 00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:55,920 And whereas a century after the 121 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,240 Declaration of Independence, intrepid 122 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,639 pioneers embodying the same 123 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:03,120 revolutionary spirit journey down the 124 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,519 St. John's River into Florida's untamed 125 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:07,600 wilderness to lay the foundations of 126 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,720 Ovido in the Lake Jessup community. And 127 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,440 whereas today the city of Ovito, Florida 128 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,519 joins communities across our state and 129 00:15:15,519 --> 00:15:18,079 nation in recognizing the importance of 130 00:15:18,079 --> 00:15:20,560 this milestone and in reaffirming our 131 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,240 shared commitment to the ideals and 132 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,480 values that continue to unite us as 133 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,480 Americans. And whereas the year 2026 134 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,800 offers an opportunity for all Americans 135 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,519 to reflect upon and celebrate the 136 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:35,360 enduring principles of freedom, 137 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,199 representative government, and 138 00:15:37,199 --> 00:15:39,600 self-determination that have guided our 139 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,040 nation since its founding in 1776. 140 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,240 And whereas the United States semiis 141 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,160 semiquincentennial 142 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,480 provides a historic occasion to honor 143 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,600 the vision, courage, and sacrifices of 144 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,120 the patriots who secured our 145 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,759 independence, as well as the generations 146 00:15:57,759 --> 00:15:59,839 that have since worked to expand and 147 00:15:59,839 --> 00:16:01,600 protect the blessings of liberty for 148 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,160 all. Now therefore, be it resolved by 149 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,079 the city council of the city of Ovidito, 150 00:16:06,079 --> 00:16:09,360 Florida, that 2026 is hereby designated 151 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,720 as a year of celebration in honor of the 152 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,000 250th anniversary of the founding of the 153 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,360 United States of America. And I think we 154 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,120 might have some people from the 155 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,959 committee here to accept this 156 00:16:22,959 --> 00:16:25,600 resolution. That is quite lengthy, but 157 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,160 Oto does have a very specific place in 158 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,079 the history of the United States. It 159 00:16:30,079 --> 00:16:32,320 took us a while to get in the whole 160 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:56,230 situation, but here we are. 161 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:14,246 It's okay. 162 00:17:14,256 --> 00:17:27,909 [applause] 163 00:17:27,919 --> 00:17:30,240 All right, this next one is so long that 164 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:31,919 I'm not going to read the entire thing 165 00:17:31,919 --> 00:17:34,400 because it's kind of technical, but I 166 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,360 want to talk about what it is. And our 167 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:39,919 last meeting was the Hanukkah 168 00:17:39,919 --> 00:17:42,080 celebration here in the city of Ovida. 169 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,919 It wasn't put on by the city. It was put 170 00:17:43,919 --> 00:17:47,840 on by uh the Ovito Winter Springs Habad. 171 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,280 And I can't say it quite right because I 172 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,120 can't do the Habad thing, but I'm 173 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:54,400 trying. Uh so hoping that Rabbi Dubov 174 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,799 and anyone who may be part of his 175 00:17:56,799 --> 00:17:58,559 community might be willing to join us up 176 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:02,160 here to uh talk a little bit about why 177 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,720 it is important for the city of Ovido to 178 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,880 be adopting a definition of what 179 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,240 anti-semitism means. uh in light of the 180 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,200 events in Australia, we wanted to make 181 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,760 sure that there's no confusion about 182 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,720 what what what hate looks like and that 183 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,360 people know how to that all of our 184 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:23,840 police officers and all of our residents 185 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,799 know how to say, you know, that's not 186 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:28,240 just a little bit of that that's not 187 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,919 that's beyond a joke. That's just not 188 00:18:29,919 --> 00:18:33,679 okay. So um read a just a few few of the 189 00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:35,360 most interesting ones from here but they 190 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:38,160 are all from a legal perspective and 191 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,520 from a welcoming perspective. I hope 192 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,039 everyone will read this and that we can 193 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:44,640 get this put on our social media because 194 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,760 it is worth every word reading it. uh 195 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,840 whereas anti-semitism including 196 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,559 harassment on the basis of actual or 197 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:55,200 perceived Jewish origin, ancestry, 198 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,760 ethnicity, identity, affiliation or 199 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,480 faith remains a persistent, pervasive 200 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,799 and disturbing problem in American 201 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:05,360 society. And whereas the Jewish 202 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:07,120 community continues to be a targeted 203 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:09,520 minority in the United States and is 204 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,760 consistently the most likely of all 205 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,600 religious groups to be victimized by 206 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,240 incidents of hate. And such incidents 207 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,120 are increasing at an alarming rate. And 208 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:23,200 whereas in 1998, Swedish Prime Minister 209 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,480 Goran Persan in initiated the task force 210 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,440 for international cooper cooperation on 211 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,000 Holocaust education, remembrance, and 212 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,880 research. And whereas an international 213 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,480 forum was held January 19th through 29th 214 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,320 2000, so this month 26 years ago, and 215 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,440 was attended by representatives of 46 216 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,200 governments, including 23 heads of state 217 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,160 or prime ministers and 14 deputy prime 218 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,640 ministers. And whereas the task force 219 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,360 issued a declaration of the Stockholm 220 00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:00,240 International Forum on Holocaust, also 221 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,960 known as the Stockholm Declaration. And 222 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,120 whereas the Stockholm Declaration is the 223 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:06,960 founding document for the International 224 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,960 Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, IH, 225 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,200 the successor organization to the Task 226 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,120 Force for International Cooperation on 227 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:17,120 Holocaust Education, Remembrance, and 228 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:18,880 Research. 229 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,919 We are adopting their definition. 230 00:20:21,919 --> 00:20:24,160 It goes on for about a page and a half, 231 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,320 but there was a definition that all of 232 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,039 these heads of states came up with that 233 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:31,039 everybody agreed on we would we would 234 00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:32,720 abide by and that's what we're going to 235 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,720 use here in the city of Ovido. So, thank 236 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,400 you for being part of our community for 237 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,720 helping organize Hanukkah. Thank you for 238 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,120 being at Hanukkah celebration with your 239 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:44,320 dad and mom and sisters and brother too 240 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,919 like one brother and one brother and 241 00:20:45,919 --> 00:20:48,240 sister one brother one sister but you 242 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,480 know Oita is for everybody and so glad 243 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,310 that you're here 244 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,720 » thank you thank you 245 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:06,870 and passile 246 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:17,909 There you go. 247 00:21:17,919 --> 00:21:23,270 [applause] 248 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:47,270 » All right. And back up we go. [snorts] 249 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:56,630 Good start here. 250 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,240 » Okay. All right. We will move on to item 251 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,919 number four which is the approval of the 252 00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:03,280 minutes. What is the pleasure of 253 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:03,760 council? 254 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,270 >> I make a motion to approve the minutes 255 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:05,280 » I make a motion to approve the minutes 256 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,000 for December 1st, 2025 regular session. 257 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:08,630 >> Second. 258 00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:08,640 » Second. 259 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,070 >> We have a motion and a second. Any 260 00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:10,080 » We have a motion and a second. Any 261 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:10,960 discussion? 262 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,230 >> No. 263 00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:12,240 » No. 264 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,149 >> All right. Uh all in favor? Please 265 00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:14,159 » All right. Uh all in favor? Please 266 00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:15,760 signify by saying I. 267 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,029 >> I. 268 00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:17,039 » I. 269 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:19,990 >> Any against? Motion carries. We'll move 270 00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:20,000 » Any against? Motion carries. We'll move 271 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,799 on to public comment. I do not have any 272 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:24,320 written request to speak. Is there 273 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,520 anybody in the audience that would like 274 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,750 to address council at this time? 275 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,440 Hearing none, I will close public 276 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,200 comment and we will move on to the 277 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,760 consent agenda. What is the pleasure of 278 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:36,240 council? 279 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,430 >> I'll make a motion to approve the 280 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:37,440 » I'll make a motion to approve the 281 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,360 consent agenda. 282 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:41,590 >> Second. We have a motion and a second. 283 00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:41,600 » Second. We have a motion and a second. 284 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,559 Any discussion? 285 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:43,990 >> No. 286 00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:44,000 » No. 287 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,909 >> Thank you to staff for sending me a 288 00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:45,919 » Thank you to staff for sending me a 289 00:22:45,919 --> 00:22:49,520 picture of what an F240 looks like. I 290 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,960 needed to see that it was different than 291 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,880 a 150. So, I I do agree that probably 292 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,559 that shape makes a difference. Anybody 293 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:01,039 else? Good. Okay. I'll ask the clerk to 294 00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:04,710 call the role. 295 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,919 » Council member Bterford. 296 00:23:05,919 --> 00:23:07,029 >> I. 297 00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:07,039 » I. 298 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:07,990 >> Mayor Slick. 299 00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:08,000 » Mayor Slick. 300 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:08,310 >> I. 301 00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:08,320 » I. 302 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,430 >> Deputy Mayor Tukurtkirt. 303 00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:09,440 » Deputy Mayor Tukurtkirt. 304 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:09,909 >> I. 305 00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:09,919 » I. 306 00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:10,789 >> Council member Britain. 307 00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:10,799 » Council member Britain. 308 00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:11,110 >> I. 309 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:11,120 » I. 310 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:12,149 >> Council member 311 00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:12,159 » Council member 312 00:23:12,159 --> 00:23:12,710 >> I. 313 00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:12,720 » I. 314 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,950 >> The motion carries. We do not have any 315 00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:14,960 » The motion carries. We do not have any 316 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,240 public hearings, first reading 317 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,000 ordinances or resolutions. So we'll move 318 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,720 on to item number 12, a discussion item, 319 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,320 which is the committee assignment for 320 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,679 city council members. Mr. Cobb. 321 00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:27,830 >> Hi. Thank you, Deputy Mayor. This is we 322 00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:27,840 » Hi. Thank you, Deputy Mayor. This is we 323 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,520 do this annually. Uh these are the 324 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,159 committees that you as as elected 325 00:23:32,159 --> 00:23:35,120 officials serve on that with other 326 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:36,720 elected officials from other local 327 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,280 governments as well as uh parts of other 328 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,000 committees that are community oriented. 329 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,960 Uh tonight, we just need direction on if 330 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,720 you're if you're going to continue 331 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,240 serving on the committees that you 332 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,159 currently serve on or if there's anybody 333 00:23:50,159 --> 00:23:53,520 any changes are going to be made. 334 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,549 >> I'm good with mine. 335 00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:54,559 » I'm good with mine. 336 00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:55,990 >> I'm good with mine. 337 00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:56,000 » I'm good with mine. 338 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,360 I was going to say we've had the same 339 00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,039 seats for a while and we can keep them 340 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:01,440 as is, but I guess is anybody looking to 341 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,430 change their seat? 342 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:05,919 » No. 343 00:24:05,919 --> 00:24:09,521 >> Nope. Any alternates want to swap? 344 00:24:09,521 --> 00:24:09,531 » Nope. Any alternates want to swap? 345 00:24:09,531 --> 00:24:09,679 [snorts] 346 00:24:09,679 --> 00:24:11,190 >> I guess we'll make it easy then. We'll 347 00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:11,200 » I guess we'll make it easy then. We'll 348 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,960 just keep it as is. 349 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,669 >> Can I ask you a question? Are um 350 00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:15,679 » Can I ask you a question? Are um 351 00:24:15,679 --> 00:24:17,029 >> some of them have alternates and some of 352 00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:17,039 » some of them have alternates and some of 353 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:20,400 them don't. Is that something that is uh 354 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,840 set by the 355 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,430 >> It depends on the board. the board 356 00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:23,440 » It depends on the board. the board 357 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:23,919 itself. 358 00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:25,830 >> So, like no, the alternate like that's 359 00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:25,840 » So, like no, the alternate like that's 360 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,440 an official alternate. 361 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:27,909 >> Okay. 362 00:24:27,909 --> 00:24:27,919 » Okay. 363 00:24:27,919 --> 00:24:30,230 >> Um I think some of them don't. It 364 00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:30,240 » Um I think some of them don't. It 365 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:30,720 doesn't matter. 366 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:31,750 >> Don't have an official alternate, 367 00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:31,760 » Don't have an official alternate, 368 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,149 >> right? But I I I think as far as any of 369 00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:34,159 » right? But I I I think as far as any of 370 00:24:34,159 --> 00:24:35,600 these meetings, we could all show if we 371 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,120 wanted to as long as you notice ahead of 372 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:39,039 time if that's that's correct. We just 373 00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:41,679 have a main contact. 374 00:24:41,679 --> 00:24:43,269 >> Um 375 00:24:43,269 --> 00:24:43,279 » Um 376 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:44,960 so, 377 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,240 um and then I will say thank you for 378 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,440 getting us all the dates of all these 379 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,832 meetings because I just get to this 380 00:24:48,832 --> 00:24:49,840 [clears throat] and when we ask if we 381 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,360 want to change it up, I don't know 382 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:53,600 availability. though. [laughter] 383 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,279 Okay, I guess we'll we'll keep it as is. 384 00:24:57,279 --> 00:25:00,880 Um, moving on to item number 13, the 385 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,880 2026 Chamber of Commerce dues and 386 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,880 participation level. Mr. Cop, 387 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,390 >> uh, thank you, Deputy Mayor. We received 388 00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:06,400 » uh, thank you, Deputy Mayor. We received 389 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,840 the invoice from the Chamber of 390 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,279 Commerce. Uh, it's for $5,000. We in 391 00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:13,440 your in your agenda memorandum, we put 392 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,360 all of the, uh, benefits that the city 393 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:18,159 does receive for this $5,000 membership. 394 00:25:18,159 --> 00:25:20,640 Uh we do have $5,000 allocated in the 395 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,200 city budget for this year. And uh we 396 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,360 just wanted to make sure before we paid 397 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:27,600 that invoice that uh the city council 398 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,960 wanted to continue at the same 399 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,760 membership level that or if you wanted 400 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,520 us to change the membership level in any 401 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,760 way. I believe one of your attachments 402 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,440 also provides the other membership 403 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,559 levels that the chamber provides. 404 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:42,320 So we just need direction. 405 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,430 >> Okay. Um I guess I'll just open this up 406 00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:45,440 » Okay. Um I guess I'll just open this up 407 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,000 for discussion. 408 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,960 Well, we're we're a $375 level member 409 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,600 for the Semino County Chamber and there 410 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,200 is a 400 level $400 level for the Ovido 411 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,520 Chamber. And looking at the benefits, 412 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,000 we don't we don't really use those. 413 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,200 So in addition to giving them $10,800 414 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,400 for Taste of Oto, this is an additional 415 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,520 $5,000 for benefits that create extra 416 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,679 work for our staff. And I think that 417 00:26:17,679 --> 00:26:20,559 staff probably doesn't want to have the 418 00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:23,120 extra work which is built as a benefit 419 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:26,080 of being for example the lead mentor for 420 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,840 a young prof professionals workshop 421 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,440 or 422 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,799 um having a speaking opportunity at the 423 00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:36,880 quarterly lunchon. Right. We're the sole 424 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,360 source provider of water 425 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:42,240 and first responder services. So you 426 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,120 know I'm not sure it's a benefit. We 427 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:46,640 actually have the uh the president of 428 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,320 the chamber if she want to come up and 429 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,919 say a few words. 430 00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:51,110 >> Yeah. Did you want to come up? You're 431 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:51,120 » Yeah. Did you want to come up? You're 432 00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:52,159 more than welcome. 433 00:26:52,159 --> 00:26:59,168 >> Sure. Thank you. 434 00:26:59,178 --> 00:27:01,039 [snorts] 435 00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:02,390 >> If you just come to the mic and state 436 00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:02,400 » If you just come to the mic and state 437 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,350 your name. 438 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:08,799 » Well, first of all, I want to thank you 439 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:11,440 for the for the membership uh all these 440 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,559 years. Uh we share goals together, the 441 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:17,200 chamber and the city alignment. We share 442 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,200 economic development, we share business 443 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,039 retention and attraction, we share 444 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:23,360 community engagement, we share workforce 445 00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:26,000 development, and we share city prom uh 446 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,799 city promotion. What the chamber has to 447 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:31,520 offer to the city is basically 448 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,000 visibility and promotion, civic 449 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,080 engagement, business and workforce 450 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,640 development, event collaboration, and 451 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,400 recognition. 452 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,200 A $5,000 tiers allow the speaking 453 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,200 opportunities, allow all these 454 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,559 interaction with the Chamber of 455 00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:48,400 Commerce, and it help us allocate all 456 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,720 these resources for our mission that is 457 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,440 economic development, empower businesses 458 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,840 and growth. 459 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,870 >> Thank you. Thank you. That's it. Thank 460 00:27:58,870 --> 00:27:58,880 » Thank you. Thank you. That's it. Thank 461 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,760 you, S. Does anybody have questions? 462 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,310 >> No, I mean, I'm fine with the chamber. I 463 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:04,320 » No, I mean, I'm fine with the chamber. I 464 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,840 mean, we've had a great partnership then 465 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,480 with many, many years. Um, uh, I went to 466 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,399 the Ovations Gala. I mean, there was a 467 00:28:10,399 --> 00:28:13,360 great turnout for that. Uh, nicely done. 468 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:16,480 Um, [snorts] I'm fine with us continuing 469 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,919 what we're doing with them. I mean, 470 00:28:17,919 --> 00:28:20,080 again, they have a signature event, uh, 471 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,440 that is well known throughout the 472 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,159 community, uh, the taste of a veto. And 473 00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:26,480 again, appreciate the partnership both 474 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,159 ways. I know we have a couple members up 475 00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:30,399 here that make every ribbon cutting that 476 00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:32,159 they can so they can get their photo in. 477 00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:33,760 I think that's great, too. You know, 478 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,320 showing the community that, you know, as 479 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,399 the local government again is is there 480 00:28:38,399 --> 00:28:40,880 for them. So, I'm fine with the level 481 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,279 that we're at. 482 00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:45,190 >> I think it's really hard for the city on 483 00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:45,200 » I think it's really hard for the city on 484 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,039 its own to support small businesses in 485 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:49,039 the way that the chamber does. And I I 486 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:51,120 love that they I I mean, I have a small 487 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,039 business. They do a great job ribbon 488 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:55,679 cutting new businesses, networking them 489 00:28:55,679 --> 00:28:57,440 to others, and and supporting that 490 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,279 community. So, [clears throat] um I 491 00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,200 appreciate all that they do as well. So, 492 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,360 I would like to keep where we're at with 493 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,960 them as well. 494 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,840 you I I think there is value in the uh 495 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,240 in the chamber. You know, I don't think 496 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,320 there's a value a dollar value you can 497 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,159 put on it. 498 00:29:14,159 --> 00:29:17,600 We as a city need to be engaged with the 499 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,080 business community and we need to 500 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,320 support them and this is this is one way 501 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,640 that we can do that. I don't think it's 502 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:30,310 something you put a dollar value on. 503 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,120 Well, uh, I mean, that being said, there 504 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,520 there is a dollar value. Um, 505 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,190 >> in my mind, I think it's worth much more 506 00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:37,200 » in my mind, I think it's worth much more 507 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:37,679 than that. 508 00:29:37,679 --> 00:29:39,830 >> $15,800 is the dollar value. 509 00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:39,840 » $15,800 is the dollar value. 510 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,510 >> I mean, we get to decide what the dollar 511 00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:41,520 » I mean, we get to decide what the dollar 512 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,600 value is. Um, and and I mean, we could 513 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,120 go up, right? I mean, we could go up to 514 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,000 the $10,000 level. 515 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,389 >> Yeah, that's a good idea. 516 00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:50,399 » Yeah, that's a good idea. 517 00:29:50,399 --> 00:29:53,190 >> Uh, I don't know. To to me, I I look at 518 00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:53,200 » Uh, I don't know. To to me, I I look at 519 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,000 this uh a couple of different ways. I 520 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,559 mean for for the most part I mean I look 521 00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:01,279 at it from the perspective of the 522 00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:02,880 residents. So you know while the chamber 523 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,799 does of course support small businesses 524 00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:08,240 the you know the question is to the 525 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,279 average resident is this um something 526 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:12,880 that affects them right because it's you 527 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,640 know ultimately they're the ones paying 528 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,200 for it out of their um you know their 529 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,840 their property taxes and other taxes. We 530 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,320 also collect uh I think it's 40,000 is 531 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,720 that right Mr. top of uh local business 532 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,080 tax um for business licenses. I looked 533 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,919 it up last year about this time and I 534 00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:31,590 >> I think it's around 140,000. [snorts] 535 00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:31,600 » I think it's around 140,000. [snorts] 536 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,149 >> Oh, it's 140,000. Yes, sir. Okay. 537 00:30:34,149 --> 00:30:34,159 » Oh, it's 140,000. Yes, sir. Okay. 538 00:30:34,159 --> 00:30:35,830 >> So, I mean another way to look at it is, 539 00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:35,840 » So, I mean another way to look at it is, 540 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,760 you know, we collect this tax from 541 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,679 businesses and then we give it to an 542 00:30:39,679 --> 00:30:41,440 organization that supports businesses. 543 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,039 So, you know, in that case, maybe um 544 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:48,320 maybe that does make sense. Um you know 545 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,360 the other thing I look at with it is um 546 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,000 there are multiple chambers and we 547 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,120 support one with um you know 548 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,080 considerable amount more money than um 549 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,679 than the other and you know is it the 550 00:31:03,679 --> 00:31:06,720 job of government to be picking winners 551 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:12,399 and losers in that way right? Um, 552 00:31:12,399 --> 00:31:14,559 I feel like if we want to support small 553 00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:17,279 businesses, we could do things like uh 554 00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:18,799 getting rid of the local business tax, 555 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,840 right? I mean, to me, that is a 556 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,760 uh it's a junk fee as far as I'm 557 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,200 concerned. Um, I'm not sure what local 558 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,919 businesses get for that except for, you 559 00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:32,080 know, the right to conduct business in 560 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,399 the city. Um, 561 00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:36,080 so you know, and if we did something 562 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,600 like that, then that's a way that we 563 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,120 could support, you know, every small 564 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,440 business regardless of what uh chamber 565 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,760 or other business organization that that 566 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,440 they were a part of. So, um, I don't 567 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,399 know, there's a lot of ways to look at 568 00:31:48,399 --> 00:31:50,640 it. I mean, and we have we have three 569 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,240 people who want to keep it the same, so 570 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,919 it looks like that's what we'll probably 571 00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:56,640 end up doing. But I I think things like 572 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,279 this are always worth the conversation 573 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:01,600 of, you know, we've been doing this for 574 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,360 a long time. Is this the right way? Is 575 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,279 this the best way? Um, you know, are 576 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:06,960 there other organizations or, you know, 577 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,880 all those kinds of things. 578 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,190 >> Okay. If I could just add, I I 579 00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:11,200 » Okay. If I could just add, I I 580 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,120 appreciate that the chamber has made it 581 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,519 clear that they only help people who pay 582 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:18,320 to be chamber members. And I did run the 583 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,320 math and 9% 8 to 9% of Ovito small 584 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,519 businesses are chamber members. So 8% of 585 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:27,360 the small businesses at Ovido are 586 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,840 eligible to receive the services offered 587 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,640 by the chamber. That 15 heard that 588 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,720 number is not accurate that it was 589 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,840 misinterpreted. Uh so I don't know. Do 590 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,640 you know what the actual number is? 591 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,950 >> The number changes every day. So I I 592 00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:42,960 » The number changes every day. So I I 593 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,039 didn't bring the number today. I'm 594 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:45,360 sorry. 595 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,110 >> Well, I I sent the information to Mr. 596 00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:47,120 » Well, I I sent the information to Mr. 597 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,399 Cobb. So we do have that number from the 598 00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:52,320 Semino County Chamber, which is a lower 599 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,799 number. and we have what was reported 600 00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:57,039 from the Ovita Whitter Springs Chamber 601 00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:00,720 and you know so there there it is 602 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,320 substantially 603 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,399 smaller than all of the businesses being 604 00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:05,760 served. So I think that's an important 605 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,720 thing for us to state from here as there 606 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,480 is consensus to move forward with 607 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,679 continuing to subsidize this private 608 00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:16,000 organization's operational expenses to 609 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,279 the tune of $15,800. 610 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:21,269 >> Okay. Do we have a consensus? 611 00:33:21,269 --> 00:33:21,279 » Okay. Do we have a consensus? 612 00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:24,149 >> Yep, we have consensus. So, um, Mr. 613 00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:24,159 » Yep, we have consensus. So, um, Mr. 614 00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:25,039 Crab, you understand? 615 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:25,750 >> Yes, ma'am. 616 00:33:25,750 --> 00:33:25,760 » Yes, ma'am. 617 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,310 >> Okay, we'll move on to the city manager 618 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:28,320 » Okay, we'll move on to the city manager 619 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,039 report. 620 00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:30,470 >> Just wanted to wish everyone a happy new 621 00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:30,480 » Just wanted to wish everyone a happy new 622 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,919 year. 623 00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:34,389 >> Okay. City attorney's report. 624 00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:34,399 » Okay. City attorney's report. 625 00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:36,389 >> Happy New Year. 626 00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:36,399 » Happy New Year. 627 00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:38,549 >> Mayor Slated. 628 00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:38,559 » Mayor Slated. 629 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:41,279 All right. Every few years I bring up 630 00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:42,880 the idea of putting a conservation 631 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,799 easement on the Twin Rivers golf course, 632 00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:45,919 and we have a little bit different 633 00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:47,440 composition up here than we ever have 634 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,240 before. Is there interest in putting a 635 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,080 conservation easement on this? Since 636 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,559 that is that though that that is the 637 00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,720 pretense on which we purchased the golf 638 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,320 course, I would like to put a 639 00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,669 >> how we purchased it. We purchased it for 640 00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:59,679 » how we purchased it. We purchased it for 641 00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:00,960 a flood plane. 642 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,190 >> We purchased it to be never developed, 643 00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:03,200 » We purchased it to be never developed, 644 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,600 which is why we can put a conser to 645 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,200 that's why we need a conservation 646 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,720 easement. 647 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:10,149 >> I would like to put a conservation 648 00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:10,159 » I would like to put a conservation 649 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:11,520 easement on it. I get that you would 650 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,639 like to build something on it. 651 00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:14,310 >> Well, hold on. We're in reports. So, if 652 00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:14,320 » Well, hold on. We're in reports. So, if 653 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,240 you want consensus to discuss this at a 654 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:17,440 future meeting, we can do that. But 655 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,879 we're not discussing right now. 656 00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:20,950 >> All right. There is there consensus to 657 00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:20,960 » All right. There is there consensus to 658 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,879 discuss a conservation easement at a 659 00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:25,119 later date? 660 00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:26,230 >> We can discuss it. 661 00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:26,240 » We can discuss it. 662 00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:27,669 >> I'll discuss it. 663 00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:27,679 » I'll discuss it. 664 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:31,349 >> Okay. Um also wanted to bring up that 665 00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:31,359 » Okay. Um also wanted to bring up that 666 00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:33,359 there have been some scientists over the 667 00:34:33,359 --> 00:34:35,040 years and this is going back to like 668 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,599 2018ish. 669 00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,320 Um, it is possible that we used some 670 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,399 funding for the acquisition of 671 00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:46,000 Riverwoods Park that requires it to be 672 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,040 managed and possibly the land adjacent 673 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,000 to Shane Kelly Park. Uh, and by managed, 674 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,359 I mean prescribed burns. And if you go 675 00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:57,440 look at where fire is burning in the 676 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,240 state of Florida at any given time, it's 677 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:03,839 somewhere. And if we do not proactively 678 00:35:03,839 --> 00:35:06,960 manage the lands in ways that will keep 679 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,920 it from setting on fire unpredictably, 680 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,440 we could we could create a situation 681 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,599 that is less ideal. So just wanted to 682 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:15,280 throw it out there. I don't know if that 683 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,040 this isn't really a discussion item so 684 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,680 much as making sure that all of us up 685 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,119 here are aware that well yeah I I guess 686 00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:25,119 maybe it is ask for a discussion item. I 687 00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:26,400 would like an update on which of our 688 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,760 lands uh we used state level funding for 689 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,839 that requires us to do prescribed burns 690 00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:32,800 or [clears throat] any specific 691 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,960 management activities. And I know we 692 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,720 have management plans on a lot of our 693 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,599 parks that we use F FRS money for or not 694 00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:42,560 not FRS what is it called? FRDAP. I'm 695 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,359 mixing all my state level acronyms. Uh 696 00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:47,040 but the FRDA app grants require 697 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,720 management plan. Not not necessarily 698 00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,160 prescribed burns but some sort of 699 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,720 management plan. And if any of them 700 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,880 require burning, let's let's talk about 701 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,640 that. Is everybody okay getting an 702 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,079 update on that at a later meeting? 703 00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:02,000 That's okay. Um, and earlier this 704 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,920 afternoon invited everybody on council 705 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,720 to come to this space right here at 706 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:10,560 12:00 on Wednesday to uh watch a webinar 707 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,240 from the Thousand Friends of Florida on 708 00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:14,720 the legislative uh all all the things 709 00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:15,680 that have been filed with the 710 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,680 legislature so far and just sort of a 711 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,680 jump start thing. So the entire public 712 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,000 is welcome to attend. It's going to be 713 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,760 somehow maybe we'll figure out how to 714 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,359 get it on a big screen, but worst case 715 00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:26,880 scenario, we'll huddle around my 716 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,440 computer, which will live stream it from 717 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,200 there. Um, and following up on Mr.'s 718 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,119 idea, I I've been wanting to eliminate 719 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,320 the local business tax forever. Um, in 720 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,920 talking with the chamber u president, 721 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,000 uh, I I think she I don't know that 722 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,440 she's allowed to enter. I don't know the 723 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,400 extent to which you're allowed to 724 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,040 interact with me or others are, but uh I 725 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,560 got the impression from the chamber that 726 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,079 they're not interested in eliminating 727 00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:53,680 the business tax, but I think we should 728 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,680 do that anyway because it's the right 729 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,880 thing for local businesses, even if 730 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,359 that's the way we fund 731 00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:04,720 a an organization's salaries. 732 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:07,119 So, is can we at a later date have a 733 00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:08,400 discussion about eliminating the 734 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,480 business tax? It always comes up at the 735 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,839 state level. I'd like to get rid of it 736 00:37:11,839 --> 00:37:13,520 proactively even if the state does not 737 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,119 because it is a junk fee. 738 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,510 >> I'm okay with it the way it is. 739 00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:17,520 » I'm okay with it the way it is. 740 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,030 >> Can we discuss it though? Does anybody 741 00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:19,040 » Can we discuss it though? Does anybody 742 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,640 else want to discuss it? 743 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,750 >> I have this label. 744 00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:21,760 » I have this label. 745 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,470 >> Yeah. Okay. 746 00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:22,480 » Yeah. Okay. 747 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,349 >> Do we have a consensus? 748 00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:25,359 » Do we have a consensus? 749 00:37:25,359 --> 00:37:27,910 >> I mean, you're talking about the like 750 00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:27,920 » I mean, you're talking about the like 751 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,680 the $25 business tax receipt. 752 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,150 >> Well, I'm talking about the $195 753 00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:32,160 » Well, I'm talking about the $195 754 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,000 I pay because I'm a regulated business. 755 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,520 So, because I'm regulated by the state, 756 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,160 I have to pay extra lots. 757 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,119 So yeah, a lot of people pay I and I pay 758 00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:42,720 three different business taxes because I 759 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:43,839 have different 760 00:37:43,839 --> 00:37:46,150 >> businesses running out of my house. 761 00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:46,160 » businesses running out of my house. 762 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,670 >> I'm not interested in discussing it 763 00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:47,680 » I'm not interested in discussing it 764 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,000 right now. 765 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,910 >> I'm not interested. Okay. 766 00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:51,920 » I'm not interested. Okay. 767 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,589 >> All right. Well, the tax the junk fee 768 00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:53,599 » All right. Well, the tax the junk fee 769 00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:55,359 stays. All right. That's all I've got 770 00:37:55,359 --> 00:37:56,960 for now. Thank you. [clears throat] 771 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,670 >> All right. Council member Rat. 772 00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:59,680 » All right. Council member Rat. 773 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,270 >> Uh nothing further. Happy New Year. 774 00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:03,280 » Uh nothing further. Happy New Year. 775 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,870 >> Council member Bford. 776 00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:04,880 » Council member Bford. 777 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,670 >> Yes. Uh happy new year. Um, again, shout 778 00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:07,680 » Yes. Uh happy new year. Um, again, shout 779 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,280 out to our parks and recck team for a 780 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,640 great job they did for the for the 781 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,400 holiday season and uh all the events 782 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,839 that they pulled off. There was a great 783 00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:16,560 turnout by everybody out there. Um, it's 784 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,000 great to have that in the community and 785 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,280 to see the people get out there and 786 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,280 really kind of get together and come 787 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,280 together as a community. So, that was 788 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,400 great to see. Also, I attended the uh 789 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,160 Christmas in the city. I know all you 790 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,320 were there as well. U think you might 791 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:31,599 have missed when I got hit by the car, 792 00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:34,160 but that was interesting. [laughter] So, 793 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,390 >> um, you're okay. 794 00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:36,400 » um, you're okay. 795 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,800 so to speak. Yes. Physically, mentally 796 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,200 we'll do questionable. But uh great 797 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,680 great job by that. Also want to commend 798 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,880 um what uh both uh Lisa and Chief you 799 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,280 guys doing with the uh ebikes and the 800 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,680 mobility. I think I thought saw the 801 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,680 articles out there. I saw the news. I 802 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,880 saw what you put out there in social 803 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,880 media again that the officers are 804 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,280 actually doing education. So, you know, 805 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,599 and talking to the kids uh unless 806 00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:04,000 they're, you know, way out of line. I 807 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,240 mean, you guys are trying to, you know, 808 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,880 navigate them to to be reasonable and 809 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,880 then uh and safe when they're out there. 810 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,280 So, I know it's a lot going on with that 811 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,880 right now. So, again, appreciate 812 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,640 everything that you guys are are doing 813 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,480 with that. So, and then again, happy new 814 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,119 year and uh we're off to a new year and 815 00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:24,720 we had a great start to the meeting 816 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:26,320 today. 817 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,910 >> Councilman Britain, 818 00:39:27,910 --> 00:39:27,920 » Councilman Britain, 819 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,630 >> um happy new year also. And I just want 820 00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:30,640 » um happy new year also. And I just want 821 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,480 to clarify on the uh the uh the burning 822 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,800 the controlled burning. Brian, if if 823 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:37,839 you're going to give information on 824 00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:40,079 that, could you give us an idea what 825 00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:42,160 size area that usually gets controlled 826 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,800 burn? I know at the during the years I 827 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,640 was at the space center, it was usually 828 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,599 thousands of acres or a thousand acres 829 00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:51,920 or more that they would set on fire. And 830 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,720 if I remember the 831 00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:56,800 SNID park, I guess that's Riverwoods 832 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,680 between the two neighborhoods. That's 833 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,200 What? Five acres at the most? 834 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,150 >> It's 34. 835 00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:02,160 » It's 34. 836 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,230 >> 34 acres. Yes. I'm not sure going in 837 00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:04,240 » 34 acres. Yes. I'm not sure going in 838 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:06,400 there and burning 34 acres next to 839 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,640 houses is a good idea. So, just find out 840 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,200 what what the state uses as their 841 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:17,109 criteria. 842 00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:18,800 » And while you're at it, on the golf 843 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,960 course, could could you reiterate that 844 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,760 the golf course is designated as a as a 845 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,000 golf course and not a park? So 846 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,200 overlaying a uh easement over it is not 847 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,000 is not appropriate. 848 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,640 That's all I have. 849 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,630 >> Okay. Uh I'm up next and all I have to 850 00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:36,640 » Okay. Uh I'm up next and all I have to 851 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,920 say is I want to say thank you to our 852 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,920 staff who work the holidays. You know, 853 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,000 we do work in government. So I 854 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,599 appreciate all the the police and 855 00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:45,280 firefighters and our core staff who work 856 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,160 the holidays for us. And happy new year. 857 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,839 Is there anything else for the good of 858 00:40:49,839 --> 00:40:51,520 the order? 859 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,880 It is 7:03 p.m. or 7:02 p.m. And this 860 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,520 meeting is not adjourned till I read 861 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,599 that our next meeting is not on a 862 00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:01,119 Monday. It's on Tuesday because of 863 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:03,280 Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Uh so 864 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,200 January 20th at 6:30 p.m. is a regular 865 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,720 session. Monday, January 26 at 5:30 p.m. 866 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:11,920 is a work session and Monday, February 867 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,400 2nd at 6:30 p.m. is a regular session. 868 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,800 Now it is 7:03 p.m. and this meeting is 869 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,800 adjourned.