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Okay, can we have a motion to adjourn from executive session?

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Second.

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It's been moved and seconded to adjourn at 7.35.

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We'll need a voice vote. All those in favor indicate by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Thank you.

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We'll move now to the pledge of allegiance.

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I invite you to join us if you would like.

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Thank you. And our first item is approval of the agenda. Can I have a motion?

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Second.

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It's been moved and seconded to approve the printed agenda, any good changes or adjustments.

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All those in favor say aye.

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All opposed.

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Gender is approved at this time.

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The mayor has a pen that doesn't work.

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At this time, we will move to public participation,

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and we're really glad that you're here.

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The first thing in public participation

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is a proclamation that I'm happy to read, whereas Oxford has always embraced the many cultures

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and peoples that make our country so diverse and Hispanic Latino Americans are one of

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the fastest growing groups in the country. And whereas as a result of their determination and

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intelligence hard work and perseverance, Hispanic Latino Americans have contributed immensely

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to the growth of our country, helping to shape the character and future of the state. And whereas

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The cultural, educational, and political influences of Hispanic Latino Americans can be seen

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and appreciated in all aspects of our life.

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From farm workers, struggles for housing and equal wages to incredible and gifted artists,

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vibrant businesses, music, and community festivals.

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And whereas the Hispanic Latino American community has a long and important history of

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commitment to our nation's core values, and the contributions of this community have advanced

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the city of Oxford in our country's expansion of intercultural relations of diverse

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minded individuals civically engaged toward building inclusive just

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and sustainable civil societies. During national Hispanic heritage month,

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we celebrate the many achievements of Hispanic Latino Americans

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and recognize their contributions to our country.

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And whereas national Hispanic heritage month is an opportunity to celebrate

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the spirit and accomplishments of Hispanic Latino Americans everywhere.

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To honor those achievements, the Congress, by public law 10402, as amended, has authorized

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and requested the President to issue annually a proclamation, designating September 15th through

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October 15th, as National Hispanic Heritage Month.

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Now therefore, I will be significantly mayor of the city of Oxford, Ohio, do hereby proclaim

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September 15th through October 15th, 2022, as National Hispanic Latino American Heritage Month

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and the City of Oxford, and urge all citizens to join me in celebrating the significant contributions

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of Hispanic Latino Americans in our country by participating in the activities and events

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planned for this important occasion. Among those is a festival coming up and I hope that everyone

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will be a part of that. So that's him. I want to say a week and a

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answer. 30 of the out. So is there someone who would like to?

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Good evening, everyone.

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I just want to say gracias. Thank you to everyone for

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this recognition of the Hispanic Latino American Heritage Man. He's a

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for us, how in the opportunity to celebrate this every year in a community like Oxford that

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will come in as and Latinos, Latinx community is growing steadily and is strong. More than ever

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within our university and within Oxford. Thank you again for all you do for our community and

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We look forward to working on everyone, this Friday, September 30th, you will see a lot of surprises.

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And I hope you are invited also to dance with us.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Our next item is a notice to legislative authority.

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New permits.

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C1 and C2.

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First, I get ink on speech streets.

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I would entertain a motion.

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do we see without a comment?

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Is there any comments?

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Hearing none of those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Thank you.

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At this time, we will move to public comments.

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That's where you get involved if you'd like to.

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Anyone wishing to address Council about items that are not on the agenda or they're on the consent agenda.

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Please come forward at this time and give us your name and address for the record.

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And we give you five minutes and you can say whatever you want, but we treat everybody the same.

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So when you get the five minutes, you'll see me.

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So if it would anyone, yeah.

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Come on forward.

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Good evening.

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Good evening.

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In the spring of September.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Carol Michael.

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409 East Chestnut Street in Oxford, Ohio.

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Thank you.

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In the spring of 2005, I went to the city of Oxford and said,

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we have to do something to prevent such waste.

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all the items thrown away by Miami University students and vision and organization that would

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have three purposes. Pass on useful unwanted items from Miami University students moving

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out at the end of the academic year to people in need teach Miami University students to

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pass things on to others rather than throwing them away and help protect our environment

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by preventing these items from going into the landfill.

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So, sheriff us is born 17 years ago.

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This year's sheriff us was held from Thursday, May 12th to Tuesday, May 17th.

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And nine organization charities took part.

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Goodwill, who helps in individuals and families,

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develop skills and employment, provide low cost items,

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give the dignity and stake those communities, collected 56 tons,

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tops, the talent on Oxford Pantry and Social Services,

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works to help families alleviate hunger and make nutritious food choices.

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They gathered 2.74 tons.

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Open hands, pantry, and Hamilton collected items for their summer harvest program, which

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gives families with children extra food for the summer, while schools out.

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Part few arms resident council helps low income residents with food resources and information.

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They collected 0.95 tons.

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Zero-Waste Oxford Student Organization collected 0.05 tons,

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Cohen recycling, gathered 0.92 tons, National Coalition

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Against Domestic Violence, collected nine cell phones,

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and Butler County Success Hub's families overcome barriers

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and children to be successful in school.

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They collected 15, 7, 5 tons, new life furniture bank helps

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furnish empty homes and families overcoming homelessness.

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They collected 2.3 tons and one of my farm's health's children who have been abused and

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neglected, abandoned, or troubled, and they're in Hamilton and they have a thrift store and

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they collected 4.6 tons.

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So all together, we received a total estimated donation of 75.7175 tons.

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It

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takes a whole community to make sure effects success and I have a lot of people to thank.

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First, I want to thank the Sheriff's Board, Sam Perry, who's here tonight, Karen Baker,

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Rob Abelwitz, who helps manage the on-campus collection, Shantel, Raghu, Shantel, Rose and

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Burger, and a lot of size more, site coordinators, Rob Rollins, Carol Cass, and Alice

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a lot. She was representing top. She was there much of the hours of the whole event.

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Pick up volunteers, Kate was them in a year for Parkview Arms, Jim Michael, Angela Koopjep

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for Topps, Theresa, but Domescape Bomba for Miami Honors Program, Jeff McDonnell, Leo Wachford,

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Moses and her daughter, Sherry House and Betsy Walker for Parkview Arms Residence,

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Association, Alicia Costello for Brestona, Miami Global Studies and Sherry Martin for Topps.

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Volunteer groups that help 23 student athletes in the coach from TELLON to tennis teams and softball team.

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15 volunteers from Ogunand's Food Pantry, five from one way farm, six people from new life furniture bank,

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five students from zero ways Oxford Student Organization and four volunteers from Klanis.

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Payed staff, goodwill provided about 10 staff to help.

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Total estimated volunteers at least 75.

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The number of drop-offs from off-campus that they share

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Fest-Sight by students, 162 drop-offs by parents, 46, and by the Oxford

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Community, who can also just donate because they have extra

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things, 62. Thank you to everyone who donated to

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Share Fest this year. And the Share Fest site at Chessent

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Fields is provided that no cost by my university. Thank you to

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my university. This year we face some of the real challenges, first

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because of COVID, people staying isolated.

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In many of our traditional miles,

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square volunteers are aging out from collecting.

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Our on-campus pick-up went pretty well,

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but the off-campus was more challenging.

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We need to attract a whole new group

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of younger volunteers to help us collect in the future.

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And we need to reeducate my university students

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about share fest and the tremendous good they can do

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by donating and getting involved.

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We hope for a bigger harvest next spring.

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Thank you for your support.

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Sure best.

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Thank you, Carol.

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Thank you.

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Anyone have any questions?

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And thank you for sharing that.

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The list.

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We appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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Would anyone else like to address Council on items not on the agenda tonight?

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Good evening.

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I'm Anne Fure.

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I live at 1345 Dana Drive.

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My professional role is facilitator for the local 501.

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three non-profit Oxford citizens for peace and justice.

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For the last nine months, two other members of our board, Karen Francis and Linda Simmons,

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and I have been meeting and acting as an informal homelessness network in Oxford.

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We have met with key stakeholders in Oxford and Butler County to identify ways of increasing

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public awareness about the people at any time about 100 individuals and families are identified

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by service providers as being homeless in Oxford. During my two and a half years as director

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of tops the local food pantry, I became aware of the plight of the 8 to 10% of our customers

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members who have no permanent residents.

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We have confirmed what I knew then that a number of organizations are doing good work to provide

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resources to those who are homeless.

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Most notably the Family Resource Center, but also the Telewanda School District and the Oxford

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Police Department.

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Several weeks ago, we met with Chief Jones and the new social services liaison in the police department, Ashley Woodell,

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and we were very impressed with Ashley's background and the fact that she was on top of things with business cards after only a few days on the job.

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Since then, we were able to introduce her to Nicola Rodriguez, the interim director of the Family Resource Center,

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to assist with an individual with whom Ashley was working.

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There is considerable need for networking in the community,

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and that's something that we have and can facilitate.

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On September 8th, city manager Elliott,

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I did thank him and want to thank him again,

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for generously giving us time to meet with members

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of the City Civil Rights Commission at their quarterly meeting.

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We had a lively 75-minute discussion about whether to think of housing as a civil right for people who are unhoused and living in poverty, neither of which of course is a protected class of people.

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The views of the participants were complex and useful to us in thinking about engaging in a larger public.

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A comment made by Mr. Elliott during that meeting affirmed a concern that I had about the sustainability of local services.

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He indicated this city was not sure about what would be done this year about the cold shelter, which has over the last two years operated from November.

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Through February or March. As you know, there is no other shelter option in Oxford. No other formal shelter option.

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On Thursday this week, I'm meeting with Nicole Rodriguez, the interim director of the Family Resource Center, to discuss the role of private citizens in supporting the good work of the Family Resource Center.

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The wraparound services provided by them by the center to all of their clients, including

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the 101 unhoused clients they served in 2021, are crucial to success for all of those clients.

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Looking at the landscape of service providers in Oxford, it is crucial that the work of

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the Family Resource Center be adequately supported.

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It is my understanding that yesterday's meeting, the Housing Advisory Commission also discussed

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the uncertain status of the Cold Shelter this year.

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Two years ago, members and friends, I think was about 70 individuals.

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Of OCPJ raised $14,000 to enable the Cold Shelter to operate in additional month and

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to provide housing assistance to other FRC clients.

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this is not a sustainable source of financial support, but it does reflect concern among members

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of the community for the well-being of those who are on house. So, I'm here to be a greasy

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will or not a greasy feel. I don't even know what it's called, sorry, all for a greasy will.

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A squeaky will. I look forward to hearing more about the city's discussion of support for

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valuable community resource or an alternative to it in the future. Thank you. Thank you,

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and also

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thank you for having exactly five minutes. That's pretty good. I don't think it's coming

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by that close. Anyone else wish to address Council tonight? Okay, if you're here and wish

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to speak on an item that's on the agenda, I'll recognize you then. So thank you for coming.

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We will move them to the consent agenda and I would entertain a motion to approve it.

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Second, it's been moved in seconded. Are there any items to be removed?

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Hearing none, all those in favor of approving the consent agenda say aye.

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Aye, aye.

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Thank you.

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The consent agenda is approved.

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And we will move to resolutions.

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You may read the first resolution.

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A resolution of counsel supporting the submission of a grant application for Ohio Public Works Commission issue number one.

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Funds to be used for the design and reconstruction of the storm conduit on car road.

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Thank you very much Mike.

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So, good evening.

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Good evening.

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Several years ago, we did a lot of erosion control work on current room and creed.

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and the Syrians just south of where we stopped.

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There's some erosion that is affecting the shoulder

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of the roadway and the edge line of the pavement.

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So we need to arrest that and replace that conduit

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and so we head walls and foot walls of that location.

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We believe this project will score well

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with the public works commission.

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If you want to close the application,

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We believe the project will cost about $250,000,

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of which $147,500, we believe we can get with Grant Fund.

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The rest of the local funds we plan to apply to Butler County

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to get our license plate and fees which are

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key in the lighting at the auditor's office.

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So really, we'll have a net zero impact on our local budget.

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So we're asking for your permission to make an application to public works commission for this project.

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Okay.

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We'd like to answer any questions.

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Thank you very much.

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Is there anyone for the public who would like to address this resolution?

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Seeing none.

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Question.

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I need an option.

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I went right past that.

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I do need a motion to approve the resolution.

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Thank you.

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Second.

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This has been moved in second.

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it. Now, if there's anybody from the public, don't see anybody

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hopping up, discussion by council. Thanks, and good luck. Always

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glad when those are coming along. All those in favor of the

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Resolution say I, I post, good luck, maybe second. A resolution and

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support of the Ohio Department of Transportation's Branch

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inspection program and authorizing the city manager to sign all agreements necessary for the city to participate in the program.

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Okay, and is there a motion to adopt this?

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It's been moved in seconded.

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So we have participated in this program before with ODOT.

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Our current agreement expires at the end of this year.

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ODOT has funding to continue to project for another three years.

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So we're asking your permission, really no rest in the city.

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To continue our partnership with Oda,

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and allow them to inspect our local bridges and corners

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at no charge for the city.

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Is there anyone from the public who would like to address

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this resolution?

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Sing them counsel?

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Yeah.

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We might visit this hill where we provide the right sort of state.

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Like the particular part of the issue that you're using as your point on the grant.

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Yes, we have a detailed inspection report.

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That information can be used depending on the severity of the defect.

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We'll give you more points on future applications.

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So yes.

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Appreciate it.

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Further discussion?

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All those in favor indicate by saying aye.

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I post, Resolution is adopted, moved to the third.

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Resolution is accepting the amounts and rates as determined by the budget commission

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of Butler County, Ohio, and authorizing the necessary tax levies and certifying them

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to the county auditor.

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Sir, motion to adopt this resolution.

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So, man.

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I can.

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It's been moved in second.

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Thank you.

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Hi, Joe.

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Okay, this is an annual resolution we bring a council that's initiated by the county

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auditor's office and it's just certifying our inside village of 3.6 by which generates

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about $1,420,000 for the general fund and then the outside village of 3.25 which is

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set aside for the Oxford area trail fund which brings in about 1.1 million dollars.

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And then after this goes through, they'll send another resolution I'll bring to ask for

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advance payment on property taxes, and that usually happens sometimes in November.

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Not just helps with their cash line.

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Something to look forward to.

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Yeah, okay. Thank you. Did we have a motion on that slide?

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I think we did. I think we did. I think we did.

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Good. Is there anyone from the public who's like to address this resolution? Council.

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Ready? Okay. All of us in favor say aye.

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Aye. Aye.

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Opps.

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Thank you.

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Let's read number four.

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Resolution authorizing the city manager to enter into an agreement

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cooperation with Fettler County Ohio, pursuant to the provisions of the Housing and Community

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Development Act of 1974 as revised.

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Okay, is there a motion to adopt your resolution?

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Thank you.

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It's been moved and seconded.

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Welcome, Sam.

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Good evening.

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Hello, everyone.

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You may remember from the June meeting, this exact same, nearly exact same resolution

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on the agenda.

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So we receive somewhat adult blue phone call from Butler County that there was an error that the Department of Housing and Urban Development

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Pot that we could not have on the agreement any longer.

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So which came comes in the nick of time because Butler County would like this resolution tomorrow.

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So that 10% is taken out.

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It's still this amount of money, hopefully would be about the same amount.

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But by taking that out, it removes that foregone conclusion that Butler County commissioners would not be able to then vote on it.

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and be able to comment and discuss it.

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So that's really all it is.

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Everything else is the same.

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We've been doing this, but the county has set

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recipient for almost 25 years.

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So it's housekeeping.

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It is.

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Okay, thank you.

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Sir, anyone from the public who would like to address

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this resolution?

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Thank you.

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Council, let me in the discussion.

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Just for Dr. Beerus, point.

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This is housekeeping because we can't refer to

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some kind of specific money we get from the county.

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But what's going to be different is in the past, we've used CBBG monies and dedicated all of them towards the conversion of our ADA ramps.

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But that is the source of funding. We will have that can be applied specifically to the sorts of things that Dr. Fierre is talking about, addressing housing or homeless or other needs.

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the CDBG may be a source of dedicated funding year after year that we can now move towards housing

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in ways we've not been able to do that. Whether what we use it will be a separate question,

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but we'll have more capacity to address housing issues. And you'll be saying a resolution

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in the next couple months for next year's request. So thanks for bringing that up. Thank you Sam.

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Are you ready to vote? All those are favor and decay by saying aye.

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We have a resolution of dissent that we'll have you read.

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The resolution of dissent against the U.S. Supreme Court decision to overturn

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real-be-waid in of support for the reproductive freedom.

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Okay, is there a motion to adopt?

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Second.

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It's been moved in second.

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I will refer this to the maker of the motion if you'd like to say some words about it.

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I have a lot of words to say, should I say that before public comment?

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Yeah, yes, well, this is your report.

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I mean, this is your motion, so you get priority.

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Okay.

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Ask for.

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Is there anyone from the public who would like to make comments on this resolution?

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Well, there's a lot of people.

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That's who those people are.

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If you want to wait for them, or do you want to make your report?

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Well, I can speak a little bit about the motivation, but I have to compare statements, I'd like to say, okay.

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Is that possible?

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Is that possible?

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That's acceptable.

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It's my first time sponsoring a resolution.

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All right.

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I thought it was important to do this today.

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Well, go ahead.

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Let me just read my remarks.

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Thank you all for coming.

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Why a resolution?

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After all, a resolution is symbolic, it is not an ordinance or a law, and cannot change

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the current state of affairs regarding access to abortion care in Ohio.

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However, resolutions can be statements of resistance, which also become historical documents.

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Resolutions can also galvanize and motivate people around important issues.

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Why a resolution now?

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Some councils passed resolutions when the

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Dob's draft opinion was leaked in May.

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Others did so shortly after the final decision was handed down on June 24.

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This resolution comes almost three months to the day after the Dob's decision.

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We have had three months to witness the havoc, chaos, and harm.

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Being inflicted on the lives of people who are pregnant as a result of bands and severe restrictions on access to abortion care across the nation.

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Unplanned pregnancies sometimes while on birth control.

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Pregnancy complications, preeclampsia, gestational diabetes,

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ectopic pregnancies, miscarriages, endometriosis, uterine fibroids, ovarian cysts, cervical cancer, uterine cancer, ovarian cancer,

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Historectamies, uterine ablations, DNC's abortion.

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Nobody knows what their reproductive future holds.

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And the situations I listed cannot be a trust with a little blue pill.

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Comprehensive reproductive health care is essential for women for people with wounds.

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And this care should be between the individual and their health care provider.

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not judges, lawyers, or politicians.

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The U.S. has the worst maternal mortality rate of any wealthy industrialized nation.

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Maternal mortality is defined at the number of women who died due to pregnancy related issues

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for every 100,000 life births.

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To give you some numbers, the maternal mortality rate in New Zealand is 1.7.

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In Norway, it is 1.8, the Netherlands 3, Germany 3.2, Sweden 4.3, Switzerland 4.6, Australia 4.8, the UK 6.5, Canada 8.6, France 8.7, the United States 23.8, we are indeed exceptional in this regard.

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Maternal mortality varies by race in this country.

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Among white mothers,

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17 of all died for every 100,000 lives births.

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Among Hispanic mothers, that number is 19.

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Among black mothers, that number is 55.

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I have said before on council, I said this, the first council meeting we had after the doves decision, that there is no freedom without reproductive freedom.

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And when I think about humans that had a complete lack of reproductive freedom, I think about my ancestors, and all black women who were enslaved in the Caribbean and of the U.S.

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The fertile and profitable soil of slavery was not the sugar cane tobacco or cotton plantations.

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The fertile and profitable soil of slavery was the black woman's womb,

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who threw rape, forced breeding, and forced birth,

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produced children that would be bought, sold, and worked to build a massive slave economy.

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There is no freedom without reproductive freedom.

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I'm grateful for everyone over the last several months who have shared abortion stories and we have heard many stories in some of the most extreme circumstances on the news from people who chose abortion care.

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Those are not the only stories for everyone who has had an abortion for any reason.

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There are countless others who understand the anxiety and fear that comes from a pregnancy

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scare and the comfort and I will use the word comfort of knowing that they could access

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safe legal abortion care if they decided to do so.

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I remember my pregnancy scare.

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I was an undergraduate at McMaster University in Canada, a child of immigrant parents and

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oldest of four children living away from home.

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I wanted to make my parents and my family proud.

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I had been a youth leader in my church, a woman's leader in my church, a track athlete,

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and high school.

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I was doing my best to do well in my undergraduate programs, my undergraduate courses.

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I did much better in some courses than others.

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But I had a secret.

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I was in an abusive relationship that was getting increasingly more dangerous as time went

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down.

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Probably because of the immense stress and pressure I was under, not eating well, not sleeping

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well, I missed two periods.

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I was too frightened to even get a pregnancy test.

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Finally, I must have the courage to get a home pregnancy test and as I waited for

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I remember the distinct clarity of knowing that if I was pregnant, I would have an abortion.

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Having a child period, but especially with an abusive partner, was inconsistent with my life's ambitions,

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no matter how capable I might have been at raising a child. Fortunately, I was not pregnant.

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Ohio six-week abortion ban is currently on hold, but it is written with three exceptions that would allow abortion past six weeks.

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Number one, to prevent the death of some other.

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Number two, in cases of serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant mother.

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Number three, in cases of an ectopic pregnancy, which, by the way, are not survivable by the mother or the child.

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Please keep those in mind.

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The Canadian Supreme Court decriminalized abortion in 1988.

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Fifteen years after Roe v. Wade and about five years before my pregnancy scare.

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And rendering the majority opinion, Chief Justice Brian Dixon wrote, quote,

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forcing a woman by threat of criminal sanctions to carry a fetus to term, unless she meets

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certain criteria unrelated to her own priorities and aspirations, is a profound interference

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with the woman's body and thus an infringement on security of the person.

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The language in Ohio's three exceptions reduces pregnant people to nothing more than a collection

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of limbs and organs, to be spared only to prevent death and irreversible impairment.

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Contrast that with a ruling that addresses a woman's priorities and aspiration.

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This is so much bigger than my body, my choice.

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It's my body, my life, my body, my liberty, my body, my pursuit of happiness.

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I do appreciate that, but if we're going to get through this, I know a lot of people

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have things to say.

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I'm going to ask that we are respectful to one another.

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I'm going to hold everybody as I do at every meeting to five minutes.

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And I ask people to be respectful of one another as you share your opinions.

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We've already gotten a lot of opinions, so I was not surprised to see a large group of people here, and as I said before, you're welcome to be here, and we look forward to hearing your opinions.

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So who would like to start with public opinions on that please, ma'am, come forward.

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Again, for those who are new to council, just give us your name and address, and you can say what you want for five minutes.

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Okay, thank you.

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Yeah, good evening.

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My name is Dina Green.

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I live at 2-1, towel under, road with Rohal, MS student.

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I am also the president of the Student Organization, Students for Life, and a community

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advocate with organizations standing with you.

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Our goal as a group is to support pregnant and parenting students on campus in those

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near community before and after birth, as well as change the hearts and mind on the top

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abortion ultimately with the goal of saving the lives of the preborn. On behalf of our

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organization, I implore this committee to not call to not pass the so-called reproductive

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freedom resolution. This resolution does not change law yet a project to the rest of our

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state nation and those who one day read about this in history that we advocate for the death

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of the helpless, the preborn children who do not get to say on whether they live or die.

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All of this in the name of it being reproductive freedom.

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The reversal of rho will that elective abortion is not a constitutional right.

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There's nothing right about elective abortion.

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That end the life of a preborn baby who from the moment of conception is a unique person that will never again exist in history.

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00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:06,360
We are not talking about all the scenarios which are treatment for miscarriages or life-threatening situations

472
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,500
for the member, which are many of the situations that you listed if we've all of them.

473
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,620
On this abortion jeopardizes the physical mental and emotional state of women.

474
00:37:16,180 --> 00:37:20,860
Past abortions have been linked to fertility issues, breast cancer, and adverse effects on mental

475
00:37:20,860 --> 00:37:26,140
health, including but definitely not limited to grief and regret, substance abuse, depression,

476
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:32,500
anxiety, and even suicide. Women here in Oxford and everywhere deserve better than abortion.

477
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:37,680
Instead of rallying around the idea that death is the only solution to an unexpected

478
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,800
pregnancy, we need to focus on giving women the actual love and support they truly

479
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:49,140
do deserve. Again, I implore you to not pass this resolution, but no matter how you end

480
00:37:49,140 --> 00:37:54,240
up voting today, we will still be the post-row generation. Thank you for your time.

481
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,200
Thank you very much for joining us.

482
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,600
If we applaud after everyone, we're not going to get through

483
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:09,500
So we'll take for granted that half of you are happy for the pro and half of you are happy for the end.

484
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:10,320
I'm sorry.

485
00:38:10,740 --> 00:38:11,360
There you go.

486
00:38:11,860 --> 00:38:14,580
Hi, my name is Kathy Brinkfin, I live at 404.

487
00:38:14,580 --> 00:38:15,620
Emerald Woodstruck.

488
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Tonight I'm speaking on behalf of the League of Women Voters of Oxford.

489
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:28,080
The League of Women Voters has from its inception over 100 years ago, worked for equal rights and social reforms.

490
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:34,260
In the early years, the leak was one of the first organizations to address such issues

491
00:38:34,260 --> 00:38:41,540
as child welfare, maternal and child health programs, child labor protection, and laws

492
00:38:41,540 --> 00:38:43,720
that discriminated against women.

493
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,480
With that history, it should come as no surprise that the leak strongly supports reproductive

494
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:50,100
freedom.

495
00:38:51,180 --> 00:38:57,580
On August 26 of this year, a day that has typically been celebrated as women's equality

496
00:38:57,580 --> 00:39:08,480
The League of Women Voters and 35 women leaders from a broad cross section of organizations placed in ad in the Washington Post.

497
00:39:09,140 --> 00:39:13,040
The ad was an open letter to women of the United States.

498
00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:15,900
The text of the letter noted, quote,

499
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:24,500
We cannot celebrate women's equality day today because we are far from equal in our democracy.

500
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:30,880
We are counting on lawmakers at all levels to restore and protect our rights.

501
00:39:31,420 --> 00:39:31,960
End quote.

502
00:39:32,940 --> 00:39:34,820
Lawmakers at all levels.

503
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,420
There were three demands listed in the letter.

504
00:39:39,260 --> 00:39:42,560
The first demand detailed voting rights legislation.

505
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:50,060
The second-demand detailed equal rights, the addition of the equal rights amendment to the Constitution.

506
00:39:51,140 --> 00:39:58,640
The third-demand was as follows, restoring reproductive freedoms for women and those who can become pregnant.

507
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:05,360
Women have lost the fundamental reproductive rights afforded to generations before us.

508
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:16,420
this step backward, perpetuate societal inequalities and falls disproportionately on people of color and low income communities."

509
00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:27,560
Tonight we applaud council members Franklin and French for heating the call for lawmakers on all levels to act in order to restore and protect our rights.

510
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,260
And I thank you for sharing your personal story.

511
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,480
I think it's brave for people to stand in front of a group

512
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,800
and say what their story was.

513
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Thank you.

514
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,360
Thank you.

515
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:41,460
Next.

516
00:40:42,020 --> 00:40:42,160
Thank you.

517
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,380
Thank you.

518
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:49,330
Hello.

519
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:50,650
My name is Krista Schrandt.

520
00:40:51,010 --> 00:40:54,890
I am a resident of the town on the school district at 1047's

521
00:40:54,890 --> 00:40:56,290
Stephen Young Road in Camden.

522
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:58,930
I've actually been a resident of this area,

523
00:40:59,370 --> 00:41:00,670
the entirety of my life.

524
00:41:00,670 --> 00:41:11,390
And I am proud to say that. I love my beautiful town here, and speaking of sharing stories, I admire you for sharing your story.

525
00:41:11,590 --> 00:41:22,070
But my story is very different. See, I am. I was a low-income single mother who was sexually assaulted

526
00:41:22,070 --> 00:41:31,890
And my early adolescence, and I became pregnant, and with nowhere to turn to, I turned to a

527
00:41:31,890 --> 00:41:39,430
plane parenthood, where I was lied to by the abortion industry, and told that the pregnancy

528
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:44,990
was not alive, that it was just a clump of cells, that there would be no consequences whatsoever

529
00:41:44,990 --> 00:41:47,950
for my decision to have an abortion.

530
00:41:47,950 --> 00:41:55,350
I had an abortion and just like the young girl came up and spoke about the men's will

531
00:41:55,350 --> 00:42:02,090
illnesses, the disease, the problems carrying later pregnancies, they can occur after

532
00:42:02,090 --> 00:42:07,710
a woman does go through that choice, I experience all of those things, including but not limited

533
00:42:07,710 --> 00:42:12,790
to and probably the greater part of my suffering was the mental anguish that I went through

534
00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:19,670
to the back and see what is incredible is that that didn't come until when I was 18 years old

535
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:27,030
after I had had several suicide attempts because I hated myself, ended up finding out I was in

536
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:33,790
a hospital and found out that I was pregnant with my daughter who is now my oldest child and

537
00:42:33,790 --> 00:42:42,710
she is old enough to be in college freshman this year. I had never had the opportunity to see

538
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:49,950
a sonogram and to realize the humanity of my child until that moment. And when I saw her

539
00:42:49,950 --> 00:42:54,310
a little heartbeat on the screen, all of a sudden I had a reason to live. Not only that,

540
00:42:54,310 --> 00:43:00,590
but I had been a high school dropout. And when I had a reason to live because of this love

541
00:43:00,590 --> 00:43:07,010
that I never knew existed, not only did I get off drugs, that I get off the street, but I went to

542
00:43:07,010 --> 00:43:10,310
college. I ended up becoming a very successful

543
00:43:11,010 --> 00:43:16,250
cosmetologist. I am an entrepreneur. Now I own and operate a 501c3

544
00:43:16,250 --> 00:43:20,510
rights kingdom ministries and I call in women from all over the nation

545
00:43:20,510 --> 00:43:26,630
who have similar stories to me because of a regrettable choice to abort their

546
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:31,810
child. I will tell you that every woman that I talk to

547
00:43:31,810 --> 00:43:36,310
there are always consequences to this so-called reproductive freedom

548
00:43:36,310 --> 00:43:45,230
And yes, you know, people can say that it's freedom, but truly it's not.

549
00:43:45,710 --> 00:43:52,070
You are exchanging one thing for another thing, and I will tell you not one of these women

550
00:43:52,070 --> 00:43:53,970
regrets their lives children.

551
00:43:54,790 --> 00:44:01,190
Even when they were not in a great situation, even when they were in poverty, although a pregnancy

552
00:44:01,190 --> 00:44:03,870
It might be unexpected and might be unwanted.

553
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:07,090
What results from that the child is not.

554
00:44:07,830 --> 00:44:11,370
And I have, we actually launched, it's called the Cloud

555
00:44:11,370 --> 00:44:13,030
Cryzalt Speak Life Project.

556
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:18,010
It's a social media movement where women from all over the nation

557
00:44:18,010 --> 00:44:22,950
who have experienced the horrors of the choice to abort.

558
00:44:23,570 --> 00:44:25,590
They were not warned about.

559
00:44:25,790 --> 00:44:31,010
They were not educated about what the repercussions of that

560
00:44:31,010 --> 00:44:36,390
voice, we're going to be in the long term, come, and they share their stories of how abortion

561
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:37,530
harms women.

562
00:44:37,710 --> 00:44:40,810
Not only does it end a life, but it harms women.

563
00:44:42,050 --> 00:44:46,730
But the hope that they found in healing with a relationship with Jesus Christ.

564
00:44:47,370 --> 00:44:54,290
And so I just want to come here and speak life and say that I do not regret my children.

565
00:44:54,290 --> 00:44:59,810
I do regret my abortions, and I do not represent the park.

566
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:16,380
The city of Oxford who would stand to dissent against the decision for Rovey Wade. I wish that there had been somebody there for me to stand in the gap and to speak life and to tell me that my children were actually going to be the best decision that I could ever make.

567
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:26,460
And my children were the ones and my love for them drove me into getting out of the gutter and turning my life around. That's all you have. Thank you. Thank you very much.

568
00:45:34,490 --> 00:45:41,050
Hello, my name is Mark Orlando. I live on 231 Western college drive in young hole

569
00:45:41,610 --> 00:45:47,670
and I am part of the student for life at Miami University. I only have five minutes, so I'm going to make this brief.

570
00:45:48,850 --> 00:45:59,430
This is a model of a 26-week-old fetus. It has a heart, fully functioning organs, can feel pain and if you're close enough you can see that it's sucking.

571
00:45:59,430 --> 00:46:07,450
it's thum. It's mother, let's just say 18 year old woman, goes into a planned

572
00:46:07,450 --> 00:46:13,490
parenthood. They're going to perform what's called a DNA abortion. That stands for

573
00:46:13,490 --> 00:46:19,950
dilation and extraction. What's going to happen is they're going to expand the

574
00:46:19,950 --> 00:46:26,790
cervix and suck out all the amniotic fluid that surrounds his baby or fetus

575
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:29,030
if you prefer I call it that.

576
00:46:30,250 --> 00:46:33,670
Then what they're going to do is they're going to choose a tool called a silver

577
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:34,610
crimp clamp.

578
00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:39,410
It has little hooks on the end of it and it will grab on and does not let go.

579
00:46:39,850 --> 00:46:44,610
What they'll do is they'll insert it into the woman's cervix and rip out a long.

580
00:46:46,130 --> 00:46:48,190
Note that the baby can feel pain during this.

581
00:46:48,490 --> 00:46:56,150
So just imagine that you're sitting there in somebody's straps a saw trap to you.

582
00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:59,030
Then I'll leg, then another leg.

583
00:47:00,090 --> 00:47:04,710
Eventually they're going to insert and they're going to try and move the head.

584
00:47:04,910 --> 00:47:08,490
They're going to feel around until they have something about the size of great for.

585
00:47:08,850 --> 00:47:14,750
By the way, if you have any questions on this, I advise watching Dr. Anthony Levittino and

586
00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:20,090
Obstetrician Gynecologist, he talks in front of Congress and describes the success scenario.

587
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:28,150
You get that hand, you get the clamp around the head, so about that, you squeeze down, and

588
00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:31,350
white material comes out of the cervix that was the baby's brain.

589
00:47:32,430 --> 00:47:35,770
Then you have to remove every single part, because if you don't remove every single part, the women

590
00:47:35,770 --> 00:47:42,550
can get very, very sick, because she has dead human body parts in her cervix or uterus.

591
00:47:44,780 --> 00:47:51,140
So, once again, imagine you're hooked into the saw clip, saw machine, and after a while,

592
00:47:51,540 --> 00:47:56,720
your arm gets ripped off, and another arm in another leg, and your head gets smashed in.

593
00:47:57,140 --> 00:48:01,220
Congratulations, you've just chosen reproductive freedom.

594
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,800
Now, I know what your old, a lot of people are thinking, why is this man standing in front of you?

595
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,600
You don't have your uterus, why should you have an opinion on this?

596
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,080
Well, it is my personal belief that man ought to protect women and children.

597
00:48:19,530 --> 00:48:25,650
I mean, that's what all the movies do, all these big, strong men going after the dance

598
00:48:25,650 --> 00:48:27,650
on distress, saving the children.

599
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:31,250
So why can't I do that here?

600
00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:38,450
Why can't I stand up and say, I want to protect the unborn, the voiceless, the ones who

601
00:48:38,450 --> 00:48:40,890
Are the most weak among us?

602
00:48:42,940 --> 00:48:50,660
And yes, I've received flag for this. I'm from California. If you can't tell by the election charts, it's very blue.

603
00:48:52,980 --> 00:48:57,780
And my beliefs out there have gotten me a lot of trouble. I don't care.

604
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:04,660
I'm standing here in front of you today to beg you. Please do not pass this resolution.

605
00:49:04,660 --> 00:49:10,280
or whatever, and as I forget what exactly is called that's a resolution, that's a resolution,

606
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:17,520
okay, perfecter, we're good then. Please. Every time, when you're thinking about the passing

607
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:30,580
this, think of this, think of yourself in a sought trap. And if you still want to pass this resolution,

608
00:49:30,580 --> 00:49:35,400
I have to think about all that, then all I can do is pray for you.

609
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,060
Thank you.

610
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:36,720
Have a good night.

611
00:49:37,340 --> 00:49:38,560
Thank you very much.

612
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:40,620
We also would like to address council.

613
00:49:49,420 --> 00:49:49,740
Hello there.

614
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:50,980
My name is Nicholas Perry.

615
00:49:51,340 --> 00:49:52,960
Oh, this is going to be great.

616
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,300
I'm at 1653 Magnolia Drive, Oxford, Ohio.

617
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,540
My name, of course, is Nick Perry.

618
00:49:58,860 --> 00:50:02,640
I'm a graduate student here studying computer science and I'm here to speak today obviously

619
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,060
on this resolution that's going to happen.

620
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:11,140
I am pro-life, I think that's pretty obvious worth the group that I'm sitting with, but I'm not going to talk about any of that right now.

621
00:50:11,220 --> 00:50:16,880
I'm going to talk about your guys' job. They've all talked about it, they're going to keep talking about it. You guys are local lawmakers.

622
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,900
You said yourself, this is symbolic, this is something you can't do.

623
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:31,600
So the problem I'm running into here is that we're doing something that's going to cause issues with the population we've done it before.

624
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,520
A lot of people are here to argue either side.

625
00:50:35,660 --> 00:50:38,080
We saw, you said about half people here are arguing

626
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:38,480
side.

627
00:50:38,940 --> 00:50:41,780
We need to divide Oxford even more.

628
00:50:42,860 --> 00:50:45,960
So again, I'm not here to discuss what you guys should do.

629
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,580
I'm here to discuss what you shouldn't do.

630
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,440
You shouldn't pass the resolution that's going to divide this city.

631
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,760
The council has not the jurisdiction to make any change.

632
00:50:54,180 --> 00:50:56,520
So why enact something that's not going to do anything.

633
00:50:57,180 --> 00:51:01,240
Your guy's job is to enact policy, not make some

634
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:05,660
statements. The council's job should not be to grants the end. It's

635
00:51:05,660 --> 00:51:08,680
grants the endings a way to get reelected. It looks crappy. It looks

636
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:13,020
you know, it's not me political. We shouldn't be doing it. So if the public

637
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:16,480
wants to change this, they should go to the state legislature. We all have the

638
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,960
right to vote. If members coming up, we shouldn't be talking to local council

639
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,560
about something that's a state issue at the moment and soon to be federal. The

640
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,560
public has their option to do it symbolically doing it through a nothing

641
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,940
burger of a resolution isn't going to change anything.

642
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,680
As seen with COVID restrictions, the council again,

643
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,560
once again, wants to unilaterally make a decision

644
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:36,880
for the entire city of Oxford.

645
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:39,780
We all have our own opinions.

646
00:51:39,860 --> 00:51:40,940
We're all adults here.

647
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,040
I'm a graduate student, so I guess more

648
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,320
I'm going to call it according to the council

649
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,000
than more other people, but it doesn't really matter.

650
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:47,820
We're all adults.

651
00:51:47,820 --> 00:51:49,340
We're all ready to, we all have our own opinions.

652
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,540
So I remind the council that each Oxford

653
00:51:52,540 --> 00:51:54,500
resident is, again, entitled to their own opinions.

654
00:51:54,860 --> 00:51:56,200
Adopting this resolution means

655
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,820
and the population even further.

656
00:51:59,060 --> 00:52:02,680
Instead of confirming the public opinion on these issues one way,

657
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,600
instead of confining the public opinion to this kind of one way of monologue,

658
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,800
where I can say something at every single one of you guys,

659
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:11,660
and then you guys can respond to me, I can't say anything back.

660
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,920
We should go out to the street and listen to people who are out there

661
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,080
protesting or having these conversations in a non-formalized discussion,

662
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,420
or again, I say something for three minutes or five minutes or whatever it is,

663
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,280
and then you respond and then you guys make your decision.

664
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:34,300
So, the Council is out of touch with their constituents, in my opinion, and it seems to be more of a blind authority that chooses to make decisions based on how each personal council member feels than the entire constituency.

665
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:51,840
So, I ask the question, am I not an Oxford citizen because I disagree with you? Am I not welcome to study here? Am I not welcome to work here as a graduate assistant? Am I not welcome to live here? Because I simply disagree with the council members, and because you guys are making the statement that I'm not welcome because I disagree with you. I ask the question. Thank you for your time.

666
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,180
Thank you.

667
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:55,970
Anyone else?

668
00:52:56,850 --> 00:52:57,410
Come on forward.

669
00:53:05,570 --> 00:53:05,990
Hi everyone.

670
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:07,730
My name is Patrick Kyle.

671
00:53:08,090 --> 00:53:10,910
I'm a resident at the Commons apartment in Oxford.

672
00:53:13,150 --> 00:53:17,490
I would just like to express my support for the resolution for all the reasons

673
00:53:17,490 --> 00:53:20,170
that Council Member Franklin said.

674
00:53:20,750 --> 00:53:23,470
I'm a part of the feminist club at Miami.

675
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:25,650
Everyone there supports the resolution.

676
00:53:27,170 --> 00:53:28,230
That's all I have to say.

677
00:53:28,450 --> 00:53:28,790
Have a good night.

678
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:32,990
thank you very much. Yes ma'am, you're next.

679
00:53:41,570 --> 00:53:48,590
Hello, good evening. My name is Sarah. I'm a senior here. I live I live at 102 East Walnut

680
00:53:48,590 --> 00:53:56,470
Street. I was the past president of my university students for life last year and I'm a senior this year

681
00:53:56,470 --> 00:54:03,490
and I serve mainly on our supportive services role so at students for life we seek to not only educate

682
00:54:04,130 --> 00:54:09,850
students, but we also seek to support pregnant and parenting students. And so as someone

683
00:54:09,850 --> 00:54:17,030
who is trying to go and support pregnant and parenting students, I started working with our

684
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:22,010
local Pregnancy Center. We have one here in Oxford. We also have a great one in Hamilton.

685
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:30,190
And it breaks my heart that a lot of our students don't know as much as they should about

686
00:54:30,190 --> 00:54:37,470
these pregnancy resource centers and they get a lot of flux sometimes because they are not

687
00:54:37,470 --> 00:54:48,650
offering abortion. But I recently started as going in here and seeing the type of women that come

688
00:54:48,650 --> 00:54:55,570
in and are served by these communities or by this pregnancy center, completely free of charge

689
00:54:55,570 --> 00:55:01,590
with completely free judgment, they are not going in there telling them that abortion isn't an option.

690
00:55:01,910 --> 00:55:06,070
In fact, they are going there and they are telling them that abortion is completely an option.

691
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And they're going through and they're explaining what an abortion in legal abortion in Ohio would look like at their on-stage.

692
00:55:15,790 --> 00:55:17,970
And they lay out their options for them.

693
00:55:17,970 --> 00:55:23,010
and this excellent pregnancy resource center is located across the street from Plain Parenthood.

694
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:26,910
And so they're not telling them that abortion is in an option.

695
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:32,070
They're saying here are all of your options, and then they wait for the woman to choose.

696
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:42,770
And I see pregnancy resource centers as choice, and they are giving support for women who want

697
00:55:42,770 --> 00:55:51,210
to parent. They are giving adoption referrals for women who want to choose adoption as difficult as that may be.

698
00:55:51,950 --> 00:55:58,770
And they are explaining the truth about what abortion is in the most plainest objective terms.

699
00:56:00,210 --> 00:56:12,370
And students for life we see the abortion industry and play in parenthood specifically as not people who will go

700
00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:26,910
Tell the truth about what abortion is, we view it as a money-making operation, as someone who cares and who sees these women coming in with a lot of her to these pregnancy resource centers.

701
00:56:27,690 --> 00:56:35,590
We see that Planned Parenthood is not giving them all of these options. They're giving them their selling them abortion.

702
00:56:36,550 --> 00:56:42,750
We see Planned Parenthood specifically, but these other abortion clinics selling abortion to

703
00:56:42,750 --> 00:56:50,110
these women, whereas as women, even when they go in for a pregnancy test, or ultrasound

704
00:56:50,110 --> 00:56:55,170
in a low income woman, this happens in Hamilton's Planned Parenthood all the time, when a low

705
00:56:55,170 --> 00:56:59,530
income woman comes into Planned Parenthood and Planned Parenthood finds out that she cannot

706
00:56:59,530 --> 00:57:04,650
afford a pregnancy test or an ultrasound, they'll send them down the straight to the

707
00:57:04,650 --> 00:57:06,710
residency resource center. This is an

708
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:09,390
example of how as soon as

709
00:57:09,390 --> 00:57:12,670
for life we see that abortion

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00:57:12,670 --> 00:57:15,930
industry does not care about a woman,

711
00:57:16,350 --> 00:57:18,290
not saying that specific people in

712
00:57:18,290 --> 00:57:20,330
an abortion clinic, they're different,

713
00:57:20,370 --> 00:57:21,710
they're a different story, but the

714
00:57:21,710 --> 00:57:23,950
industry is a whole, they're out to

715
00:57:23,950 --> 00:57:26,570
market abortion to make money.

716
00:57:27,050 --> 00:57:28,390
And these pregnancy care centers

717
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:31,550
are out here to help women.

718
00:57:32,030 --> 00:57:34,510
And so I just want to express my

719
00:57:34,510 --> 00:57:39,030
support for those pregnancy centers and to let women on this campus, especially on this

720
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:47,290
campus, know that they exist, and they're completely free at church. I also wanted to address

721
00:57:47,290 --> 00:57:55,450
one comment made in your statement about criminalizing women. It is never ever the support

722
00:57:55,450 --> 00:58:00,210
that a students for life of America are organization to criminalize women for having an abortion.

723
00:58:00,850 --> 00:58:08,410
We believe that abortion has two victims, the child and the mom, the child is the first one and then the mom.

724
00:58:08,990 --> 00:58:15,290
And so having these two separate victims, the mom should not be criminalized, she should not be put in jail.

725
00:58:15,610 --> 00:58:20,430
We believe that it's the abortionist, and you see across the country in these laws that are coming out.

726
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:25,690
It is not the woman who is being penalized and to the abortionist who is being fined or jailed, depending on the state.

727
00:58:26,190 --> 00:58:26,590
Thank you.

728
00:58:34,690 --> 00:58:45,370
Okay, for the record before you leave would you give Heather Barber up here your name because I don't think you gave that at the beginning.

729
00:58:46,510 --> 00:58:50,150
We need it for the record, so we appreciate it.

730
00:58:50,430 --> 00:58:50,710
Thank you.

731
00:58:51,550 --> 00:58:53,690
I'm sorry I didn't catch you.

732
00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:55,070
Good evening.

733
00:58:55,950 --> 00:58:57,210
I'm Sue Mo Meyer.

734
00:58:57,410 --> 00:59:01,410
I live at 720 Westchester Street here in Oxford.

735
00:59:04,740 --> 00:59:12,460
struggling with what to say to you because it is my firm belief and that this

736
00:59:12,460 --> 00:59:17,620
resolution should pass. I would like to respond to the demonizing of

737
00:59:17,620 --> 00:59:23,330
Planned Parenthood, but I don't really think this is the place. I think your

738
00:59:23,330 --> 00:59:36,090
involvement is important because we're really talking about life in a

739
00:59:36,090 --> 00:59:44,130
of opinion about abortion her say, because people have different values, different religious beliefs,

740
00:59:45,250 --> 00:59:50,410
and different experiences. But what should the lobby and a pluralistic democracy

741
00:59:50,730 --> 00:59:59,750
and it should allow for women's reproductive choice? No one, of course.

742
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:16,280
Should be ever forced to have an abortion, but no one should be denied an abortion if that is what they see as best for them, given their values, their families, and their resources.

743
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:33,180
So I want to thank you for proposing this resolution, I think it's brave and I think it's perfectly appropriate for even a small town city council to take a stand of principle.

744
01:00:33,820 --> 01:00:35,200
So thank you.

745
01:00:35,260 --> 01:00:36,660
Thank you very much.

746
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:38,980
We also would like to address the council.

747
01:00:44,940 --> 01:00:48,940
By the way, when I asked that question, if you're just slow getting up or raise your hand or something,

748
01:00:48,940 --> 01:00:53,960
Because otherwise, I'm likely to just move on, so I appreciate it.

749
01:00:54,220 --> 01:00:54,500
Thank you.

750
01:00:54,620 --> 01:00:54,760
Hi.

751
01:00:54,980 --> 01:00:55,320
Welcome.

752
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:56,840
I'm Carly Federinggo.

753
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,240
I live at 1525.

754
01:00:58,500 --> 01:01:01,580
I'm a graduate student at Miami.

755
01:01:02,380 --> 01:01:04,200
And I'd like to share my personal experience.

756
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,560
So I like council member Franklin.

757
01:01:07,540 --> 01:01:08,680
My freshman year of undergrad.

758
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,620
I had a pregnancy skater.

759
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,540
And I knew my parents, or at least my mother,

760
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,980
would be very supportive of me and whatever choice I made.

761
01:01:17,980 --> 01:01:20,480
But I didn't go to her because I was terrified.

762
01:01:20,780 --> 01:01:23,220
I was terrified of what my peers would think of me.

763
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,160
I was terrified of what my partner at the time would think of me.

764
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:32,360
If I decided to go and get an abortion, thankfully I was not pregnant.

765
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,580
But I knew that I had that choice.

766
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:37,100
It was my choice to make.

767
01:01:37,260 --> 01:01:39,340
It was my autonomy as a person.

768
01:01:40,140 --> 01:01:42,160
And that is why this resolution should pass

769
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,060
because of showing support for people's autonomy, bodily autonomy.

770
01:01:46,580 --> 01:01:52,600
So I wanted to say thank you for bringing this forward because I think it is very important to show that

771
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:57,880
support for people. Thank you. Thank you very much.

772
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,720
What else? Yes. Come on up.

773
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:12,620
One Megan Kikendahl, 1304 Dana Drive. Thanks for the opportunity to speak and making time for all of us.

774
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,280
I'm sharing my support for the reproductive freedom resolution.

775
01:02:17,540 --> 01:02:41,160
And while this is only symbolic, it's important that we're having these conversations at a local level in addition to state and federal levels, I also want to stress that while the dog decisions set abortion legislation back to the people and their elected representatives, we live in Ohio, a state with unconstitutional districts.

776
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:47,100
that's skew or representative legislator make up in ways that do not accurately represent us.

777
01:02:47,740 --> 01:02:54,340
So for a ruling like this, the Supreme Court handed control of our bodily autonomy to people who do not represent our interests.

778
01:02:54,940 --> 01:03:00,500
And we cannot otherwise address those because of the systems that we're in.

779
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,340
So in light of that, I think it's important to share some information.

780
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:09,820
As you consider passing this resolution and for those listening to and participating in today's meeting.

781
01:03:11,130 --> 01:03:18,950
People deserve the freedom to choose if they want to have children and when, if ever, that takes place.

782
01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:39,290
Reproductive justice, as defined by Sister Song, the Women of Color for Reproductive Justice Collective, is the human right to maintain personal, bodily autonomy, have children, not have children, and especially this point, parent the children we have in safe and sustainable communities.

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01:03:40,470 --> 01:03:58,110
I'll come back to that in a minute and I also want to note that a lot of language talks about women as the only people with capacity for pregnancy and it's important that we acknowledge that other folks that do not identify as women have

784
01:03:58,110 --> 01:04:00,850
and have the capacity for pregnancy.

785
01:04:02,390 --> 01:04:05,550
In statistics, those numbers will typically count women

786
01:04:06,110 --> 01:04:08,990
just because of data concerns,

787
01:04:10,410 --> 01:04:14,010
but it's important that we acknowledge all of the people that have the capacity for pregnancy

788
01:04:14,010 --> 01:04:16,450
and may need abortion care.

789
01:04:18,890 --> 01:04:23,710
A few stats of note, these are from the Gootmock Institute

790
01:04:23,710 --> 01:04:29,590
from 2014, 88% of abortions are done by flow of weeks.

791
01:04:30,850 --> 01:04:39,830
I think there's an over-emphasis on the idea of late term abortions by anti-abortion groups.

792
01:04:40,650 --> 01:04:48,610
And it's important to emphasize that when a pregnancy is viable, they're not in

793
01:04:48,610 --> 01:04:51,570
using abortion, they're inducing labor.

794
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,980
A lot of times when we talk about those later stories,

795
01:04:56,380 --> 01:04:57,660
they're all kinds of other complications,

796
01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,760
which I won't go into at this point,

797
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:01,000
but it's important to acknowledge

798
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,600
the heartbreak of many of those decisions at that point

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01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,760
in someone's pregnancy,

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01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:10,020
and having laws that prevent them from all of their pregnancy

801
01:05:10,020 --> 01:05:15,240
care options in that state can be additionally traumatic.

802
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:39,760
59% of people having an abortion already have at least one child, and a lot of times that decision takes that child into account, and they may not be able to continue to care for that child, which connects to this next statistic that 75% of people having abortions are poor or low income.

803
01:05:40,980 --> 01:05:52,540
24% so nearly 1 in 4 women have an abortion before age 45, including people with strong religious convictions which is a whole other situation.

804
01:05:53,460 --> 01:06:03,760
And again, thinking about pluralistic society, which was mentioned earlier, trying to maintain our freedom to decide what is and is not right for us as individuals.

805
01:06:05,300 --> 01:06:08,880
Bands do not stop abortions, they make them unsafe.

806
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,920
There are already higher mortality rates, as was mentioned, for pregnancy, for people

807
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,660
of color, especially black women.

808
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:22,840
And pregnancy itself is not inherently safe, and it comes with a lot of risks.

809
01:06:26,540 --> 01:06:32,040
When we focus on banning abortions, we miss huge opportunities to actually make helpful

810
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:41,120
policy on things like extended and paid parental leave, affordable health care, better job

811
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:46,900
security policies so people don't have to choose between their pregnancy and their job.

812
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,760
Again, and potentially their families welfare.

813
01:06:51,060 --> 01:06:57,720
Safe, affordable childcare and housing and comprehensive sexuality education to help prevent

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01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:04,840
on planned pregnancies because the number one cause of abortions is on planned pregnancies.

815
01:07:07,860 --> 01:07:08,780
I'm sorry, Megan.

816
01:07:09,220 --> 01:07:09,560
Definitely.

817
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:10,960
You have used your five minutes.

818
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:12,600
And that was the end.

819
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:13,220
Thank you.

820
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:13,700
Thank you.

821
01:07:13,780 --> 01:07:14,220
Thank you for coming.

822
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,600
We appreciate it.

823
01:07:16,860 --> 01:07:17,080
Yes.

824
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:18,080
Come on forward.

825
01:07:22,590 --> 01:07:22,750
Hello.

826
01:07:22,810 --> 01:07:23,790
Thank you.

827
01:07:25,380 --> 01:07:26,280
Mr. Mayor, everyone.

828
01:07:26,540 --> 01:07:28,920
Firstly, my name is Father Jacob.

829
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:29,640
But willig.

830
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,680
I live at 111 East High Street, honor to be here.

831
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,340
We've only been in Oxford one year, but thank you for all your work.

832
01:07:35,340 --> 01:07:36,680
I think you're open for coming here tonight, sir.

833
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,940
And there are blessed United States to speak our freedoms.

834
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:45,200
I think it comes in mind to me, I guess, of course, as a Catholic priest, we stand for

835
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:45,420
life.

836
01:07:45,540 --> 01:07:51,120
We stand for the mother, we stand for the child, we're continuing there to care for both,

837
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:58,300
to care for both, right, but realize we have the belief strongly for life begins a conception.

838
01:07:59,440 --> 01:07:59,620
Right?

839
01:07:59,620 --> 01:08:02,560
The God creates this body and soul at the time of conception.

840
01:08:03,340 --> 01:08:05,160
and that we're all made for life.

841
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:07,720
And certainly there are many difficult situations,

842
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,480
right? And we have a great love for mothers.

843
01:08:09,740 --> 01:08:11,120
You know, we need, as Sarah was mentioning,

844
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:12,520
you're all just in points of people,

845
01:08:12,660 --> 01:08:14,560
knowing the right pregnancy care centers we have,

846
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,740
because I think we need to get the word out.

847
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,380
So all of us I hope just to know,

848
01:08:18,700 --> 01:08:20,460
because people certainly are in difficult situations

849
01:08:20,460 --> 01:08:22,140
at times, right? They feel isolated.

850
01:08:23,140 --> 01:08:25,160
You know, we're never there to blame with these decisions.

851
01:08:26,060 --> 01:08:28,140
As Sarah said, we never forced decisions, right?

852
01:08:28,140 --> 01:08:30,780
Just the beauty of, you know,

853
01:08:30,780 --> 01:08:34,480
trying to help and support. At the same time we do need to realize that there are two lives

854
01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:42,080
here, right? There is a child, and there is a mother. And we should not forsake one for the sake

855
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,720
of the other at any time, right? We need to remember both. And of course, being a Catholic priest,

856
01:08:45,820 --> 01:08:50,180
I just have to bring in some scripture right, as we said earlier, we talk about being one nation

857
01:08:50,180 --> 01:08:54,840
under God, indivisible for liberty and justice for all. For liberty and justice for all.

858
01:08:54,840 --> 01:09:05,660
In Deuteronomy 3rd and 19, it says, I have set before you life and death the blessing and the curse, therefore choose life, then that your descendants may live.

859
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:11,020
For the sisters we are called, I think society is judged by how it treats the weakest and society.

860
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:17,740
Right, we talked, we heard about the poor earlier, pretty about the homeless. We hear about, of course, these young women who need support, but also children.

861
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:23,720
And of course, there's always a debate about one-life begins, you know, I believe we firmly believe that it

862
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:28,040
it begins a conception. And so as one show this evening, thank you for your time.

863
01:09:28,340 --> 01:09:29,460
Thank you very much for coming.

864
01:09:32,010 --> 01:09:34,890
Yes, I'm going to go back here and then I'll get you.

865
01:09:43,050 --> 01:09:51,210
Hi, my name is Johnny Drew. I was at a 3, 6, 1, 5, Barbara, and I just want to read the article actually here.

866
01:09:51,210 --> 01:09:58,850
from Star Parker. She's an African American woman and she founded the Center for Urban

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01:09:58,850 --> 01:10:05,390
Reneau and Education. And she said here, when Senator Stephen Douglas and Abraham Lincoln

868
01:10:05,390 --> 01:10:11,890
faced off in a debate in Piora, Illinois in 1854, the issue of tearing apart the nation was slavery.

869
01:10:12,930 --> 01:10:17,550
A central issue was whether slavery would be permitted in new territories entering the Union.

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01:10:17,550 --> 01:10:23,430
Douglas's answer to the question was politics. Lincoln's answer was morality and the Bible.

871
01:10:24,570 --> 01:10:29,810
Douglas's answer to slavery in New States, the Kansas Nebraska Act, was democracy.

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01:10:30,590 --> 01:10:40,550
Citizens would vote to permit or not to permit slavery in each state. Lincoln opposed this expansion of what he saw as the inherently evil institution of slavery.

873
01:10:41,130 --> 01:10:45,590
In the purio debate, Lincoln stated, Judge Douglas interrupted me to say that the principle

874
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:50,210
of the Nebraska bill was very old, that it originated when God made man in place good

875
01:10:50,210 --> 01:10:55,070
and evil before him, allowing him to choose for himself being responsible for the choice he

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01:10:55,070 --> 01:11:00,670
should make. Lincoln's answer. God did not place good and evil before man, telling him to

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01:11:00,670 --> 01:11:05,970
make his choice. On the contrary, he did tell him there was one tree of the fruit of

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01:11:05,970 --> 01:11:09,870
that you should not eat on pain of certain death.

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01:11:10,410 --> 01:11:14,670
Lincoln argued essentially that at the heart of political freedom stands man's

880
01:11:14,670 --> 01:11:20,190
free choice and that the choices man makes have profound importance in consequences.

881
01:11:21,090 --> 01:11:25,770
Douglas argued that the most important thing that is that we have choice that we can choose.

882
01:11:26,230 --> 01:11:29,890
Lincoln argued that the most important thing is what we choose.

883
01:11:30,510 --> 01:11:35,350
Now we are here almost 170 years later after Lincoln and Douglas faced off and the nation

884
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:40,110
is at a similar crossroads in another issue of brave moral consequence, our responsibilities

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01:11:40,110 --> 01:11:41,390
to the unborn.

886
01:11:42,150 --> 01:11:46,570
Just as Samuel Lito and his opinion in the doves' decision that overturned R.V. Wade argued

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01:11:46,570 --> 01:11:51,390
from a legal constitutional perspective. His conclusion contrary to the course's conclusion

888
01:11:51,390 --> 01:11:55,550
and R.V. Wade was that the U.S. Constitution does not contain a right for a woman to abort

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01:11:55,550 --> 01:12:01,570
her child. However, the practical moral result of this decision is that Lito put the nation

890
01:12:01,570 --> 01:12:07,030
on the moral footing, where Lincoln argued regarding slavery, and continues on, but I will

891
01:12:07,030 --> 01:12:11,890
say this to you, City Council, before you make your decision on passing this resolution,

892
01:12:12,810 --> 01:12:21,070
I would ask the question, are you on the right side of history? Because we know, I believe

893
01:12:21,070 --> 01:12:28,470
with 1787, the three fifth compromise, Congress came together and said African-American slaves,

894
01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:35,310
only account for three-fifths of the person, and right now we are at a similar crossroads in America that we are seeing a baby

895
01:12:35,310 --> 01:12:41,110
Only at 15 weeks or a baby at only 12 weeks or a baby at only two weeks is a person

896
01:12:41,650 --> 01:12:47,550
But a person has inherent dignity and value from the moment of conception and there is is not it doesn't matter if they feel pain

897
01:12:47,550 --> 01:12:52,630
It doesn't matter if they yet have brain function right we know people in the coma

898
01:12:53,130 --> 01:12:57,550
They they don't have that brain function that maybe we do at this at the similar capacity

899
01:12:57,550 --> 01:12:59,630
but we know there's so people.

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01:13:00,070 --> 01:13:01,910
In the same way, the preborn children,

901
01:13:02,310 --> 01:13:05,010
we know history will declare that they are people.

902
01:13:05,530 --> 01:13:08,670
The question is, where will you stand on that side of history?

903
01:13:08,990 --> 01:13:09,650
Thank you.

904
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:10,830
Thank you very much.

905
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:13,450
You're next.

906
01:13:19,930 --> 01:13:20,870
I'm Elizabeth Ordall.

907
01:13:21,010 --> 01:13:22,910
I live at 22, Lantern Ridge Road.

908
01:13:23,910 --> 01:13:26,490
I have a lot of sympathy for the young people

909
01:13:26,490 --> 01:13:27,690
in the back of the room today

910
01:13:27,690 --> 01:13:29,530
because I used to be one of them.

911
01:13:29,830 --> 01:13:32,730
If this was 1990, I would be standing up here

912
01:13:32,730 --> 01:13:35,870
making the same speeches that they are making tonight.

913
01:13:36,310 --> 01:13:40,250
I was raised as an evangelical Christian and when I was 17, I spent on

914
01:13:40,250 --> 01:13:44,430
awful lot of time in prayer groups and our protests and working at the

915
01:13:44,430 --> 01:13:48,710
pregnancy centers that they are talking about. I was passionate about life.

916
01:13:49,150 --> 01:13:53,150
It took me many years to recognize that if I cared about life,

917
01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:58,130
my obsessive focus at ending abortion rights was not the way to support life.

918
01:13:58,130 --> 01:14:06,210
Rather, I should be working for healthcare for all, for living wages for all, for birth control, for all, for child care for all.

919
01:14:06,650 --> 01:14:09,990
We are a long, long way from all of those things.

920
01:14:10,490 --> 01:14:16,510
But those are things that we can and should be working for together if we care about life.

921
01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:21,090
We have already begun to see the consequences of the Supreme Court ruling.

922
01:14:21,710 --> 01:14:23,730
Women are being denied the care they need.

923
01:14:23,730 --> 01:14:28,910
Doctors are being constrained from caring for patients, as they see fit, and

924
01:14:28,910 --> 01:14:32,890
10 year olds who have been raped are having to cross state lines to seek abortion.

925
01:14:33,450 --> 01:14:36,290
These consequences are not pro-life.

926
01:14:36,750 --> 01:14:40,850
I am grateful to our City Council members for calling out this ruling and

927
01:14:40,850 --> 01:14:43,890
stating our values, and I strongly support this resolution.

928
01:14:44,330 --> 01:14:44,770
Thank you.

929
01:14:44,970 --> 01:14:46,550
Thank you very much.

930
01:14:48,170 --> 01:14:48,350
Okay.

931
01:14:48,990 --> 01:14:49,690
Come on forward.

932
01:14:51,770 --> 01:14:58,980
Good evening, my name is Lexi Merch. My address is 49th Curtain Drive and I would like to...

933
01:15:00,980 --> 01:15:18,220
Say how much this resolution means to me, because as we've heard tonight, reproduction is not black and white. There is not one story, and there should not be one law to decide what is right and what is wrong.

934
01:15:19,300 --> 01:15:27,520
I can tell you that if Rovey Wade were overturned six years ago, after I had

935
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:32,680
Fidmist diagnosed Emma Cole-Hide, had continued with work and traveled out of state to

936
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:39,100
Texas, had continued to work and ignored my body and pushed through and by the time I was

937
01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:45,160
convinced by my colleagues to seek the help that I needed in Dallas, Texas.

938
01:15:46,700 --> 01:15:48,720
I would not be alive today.

939
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:57,100
I had had an ectopic pregnancy, and if there was any question for what the doctors should do,

940
01:15:57,580 --> 01:16:05,560
for what was legally right, versus what was medically right, I would not be alive because within 20 minutes of me arriving to that hospital.

941
01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:11,660
I was given paperwork to sign to say that I had to go into immediate surgery,

942
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:16,820
And that if I woke up with a hysterectomy, I would not sue the hospital.

943
01:16:17,940 --> 01:16:19,880
I was testing positive for pregnancy.

944
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,900
So this resolution really means the world.

945
01:16:22,980 --> 01:16:24,500
Thank you, Council Member's French.

946
01:16:24,900 --> 01:16:25,720
Thank you, Council Member.

947
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:30,880
Franklin, because we cannot imagine what are reproductive future holds.

948
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:35,300
I could never imagine that what I went through would happen to me.

949
01:16:35,780 --> 01:16:36,980
I did everything right.

950
01:16:37,260 --> 01:16:38,220
I followed the rules.

951
01:16:38,220 --> 01:16:45,300
I decided when, and where, and how I wanted to get pregnant, and there are medical situations that are beyond our control.

952
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:56,540
And this resolution reminds us of that, and reassures those of you who are in the audience today, who are at home that whatever happens,

953
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:01,840
our leaders will support us, and by supporting us, Council members, Franklin, Council members, French,

954
01:17:02,420 --> 01:17:06,640
I mean that other people don't have to get up here and share their trauma.

955
01:17:08,300 --> 01:17:13,300
It means that they are doing their job and they are fighting for all of us regardless

956
01:17:13,300 --> 01:17:17,960
of our background, regardless of our situation, that our leaders will support our decisions.

957
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:19,500
Thank you.

958
01:17:19,580 --> 01:17:20,840
Thank you very much.

959
01:17:23,170 --> 01:17:25,830
Yes, the hand and then the stand.

960
01:17:27,550 --> 01:17:28,770
Yes, the hand.

961
01:17:33,020 --> 01:17:35,220
The gentleman who stood, he'll be next.

962
01:17:48,920 --> 01:18:01,480
I live at 1345 Dana Drive, my professional role, again, is facilitator for the local 501C3 non-profit Oxford citizens for peace and justice.

963
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:08,540
With me here tonight also is Barbara Carruso, who is President of the Board of OCPJ.

964
01:18:09,300 --> 01:18:15,260
We applaud the initiative of counselors, Franklin, and French in introducing this resolution,

965
01:18:15,260 --> 01:18:19,240
and welcome the Council's support of this statement of resolve.

966
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:26,940
We are here to represent ourselves and other members of OCPJ, including Karen Francis

967
01:18:26,940 --> 01:18:32,140
and Kathy McMahon, Closterman, who asked to be acknowledged but couldn't be here.

968
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:39,040
We are some of the many in the city of Oxford whose values and beliefs are referred to

969
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,060
in the resolution.

970
01:18:41,740 --> 01:18:49,620
and actually several months before this OCPJ demonstrated this publicly in two ways.

971
01:18:50,620 --> 01:18:59,960
First, on June 25th, our board issued a statement concerning the previous day's Supreme Court decision on row,

972
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:05,060
and I gave it in writing to Heather so you would have that statement on the record.

973
01:19:05,060 --> 01:19:11,620
And I was going to read it but after the commissative been made, I'm not going to do that.

974
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:20,760
But I do want to note that in this statement, we introduced a term that hasn't been used yet by anyone speaking tonight.

975
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,620
And that's the notion of forced birth.

976
01:19:24,660 --> 01:19:36,160
Then, on July 14th, we sponsored a virtual program featuring the analyses of Dr. Jacqueline

977
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:41,320
Dockerty, Director of the Western Center for Social Impact and Innovation at Miami,

978
01:19:41,860 --> 01:19:44,580
and graduating Miami Senior Medi-Migar.

979
01:19:45,140 --> 01:19:49,940
The presentation was entitled, Abortion in a Post-Row USA.

980
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:59,320
The participants in the program generated a number of possible responses to the Supreme Court decision in Dobbs,

981
01:19:59,460 --> 01:20:03,360
affirming that abortion is essential health care.

982
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:12,480
As I said, we're pleased to see that Council is articulating the views of what we too believe to be the majority of the city's residents.

983
01:20:14,420 --> 01:20:20,040
But based on the comments that people have made here, though, I just want to say a few words

984
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:28,500
about process, and Mayor Snavely used suggested the possibility that half of the people

985
01:20:28,500 --> 01:20:33,300
would speak in favor of the resolution and half of this people would speak against that.

986
01:20:33,300 --> 01:20:39,040
Now I was trained as a social scientist, as a psychologist, so I know that what happens

987
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:45,480
with polls doesn't necessarily match what is true of people's beliefs and if we look at many

988
01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:51,900
polls recently, it's not 50, 50. The majority of people who participated in polls would,

989
01:20:52,020 --> 01:20:59,200
I think, support their resolutions proposed tonight. What you're doing here, I agree with

990
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:07,080
a symbol minor is brave and is important for you to do in a pluralistic democracy.

991
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:14,300
Nicholas Perry suggested in his comment that a resolution would further divide the

992
01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:26,600
community and I think that's given a lot of credit to what a resolution can do. I mean

993
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:33,940
Councillor Franklin, but also the possibility in a resolution, and that is to express your

994
01:21:33,940 --> 01:21:35,860
values in principles as counselors.

995
01:21:36,420 --> 01:21:44,180
We elected you to represent us, and when communities are divided, you have to make statements

996
01:21:44,180 --> 01:21:45,660
about your values in principles.

997
01:21:45,780 --> 01:21:49,720
So I'm going to stay and listen to your discussion of the resolution.

998
01:21:50,140 --> 01:21:53,000
I was here for your discussions of the mask mandates.

999
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:57,940
My guess is that many of the people in the room were not here for those discussions and I really

1000
01:21:57,940 --> 01:21:58,860
appreciate it.

1001
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:05,420
Those resolute that discussion, you know, especially Councillor Ellerby's comments about

1002
01:22:05,420 --> 01:22:11,100
not wanting to tell people what they had to do, not mandating what people had to do in

1003
01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:16,540
a situation where it's not clear that wearing masks would prevent the spread of COVID.

1004
01:22:16,540 --> 01:22:23,920
If we believe in essential health care, if we believe that we should not be forcing birth,

1005
01:22:24,580 --> 01:22:30,200
then having a resolution that allows for opportunity, that allows for choice, that allows

1006
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:36,160
for saving lives and giving that feedback to the state, I mean that's what it's doing,

1007
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:41,080
it's giving feedback to the state and it's also representing your views to your public

1008
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,000
constituents is vitally important.

1009
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:52,080
So again, thank you for bringing this resolution. You have once again, going exactly by a minute

1010
01:22:52,080 --> 01:23:00,460
Assembly, we have a timer up here. No, he's gonna make it again. I was in the classroom for 39 years on a 50-minute

1011
01:23:00,460 --> 01:23:03,860
80-minute schedule. So I got pretty good at that. Thanks.

1012
01:23:06,460 --> 01:23:09,020
Yes, sir. You're in the back. Yeah, come on up

1013
01:23:17,020 --> 01:23:23,680
For those who may wonder I was trained as a debater and I had to go to the exact amount of time

1014
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,500
So I really appreciate it when people do that.

1015
01:23:26,500 --> 01:23:27,180
Hi, welcome.

1016
01:23:27,580 --> 01:23:27,780
Good evening.

1017
01:23:28,780 --> 01:23:29,780
My name is Sam Dairy.

1018
01:23:29,900 --> 01:23:32,020
I live on 1607, Barrett, in court.

1019
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,020
There are many issues that have a vision

1020
01:23:35,020 --> 01:23:38,040
have a risen with the abortion problem in our country.

1021
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,100
So I want the first to say that we are here to support women.

1022
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,240
And as Sarah mentioned, there are women's care centers here in Oxford

1023
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,840
and all over our country to help educate and support women

1024
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,660
through their pregnancy and through raising their children.

1025
01:23:52,660 --> 01:24:00,520
And I also want to quickly mention that in a topic, ending in a topic pregnancy is not considered an abortion.

1026
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:07,060
And if you have any questions about that, you can come talk to me or any of the pro-life advocates in the back of the room after the meeting.

1027
01:24:07,940 --> 01:24:18,640
Council, I am here to protect life, our inalienable right to life. I cannot stand as a citizen

1028
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:26,040
of the United States, silence against this resolution, and silence against this resolution.

1029
01:24:26,980 --> 01:24:33,380
The abolitionists of our past are hearings, because they stood for life. They stood for

1030
01:24:33,380 --> 01:24:40,420
God given humanity of every human person, even when others wouldn't recognize it.

1031
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:46,020
Today in 2022, we need leaders like you to stand for life.

1032
01:24:46,620 --> 01:24:51,520
When it's inconvenient, when it will suffer abuse, when it's hard.

1033
01:24:53,060 --> 01:24:59,280
I can't tell you what all other countries stand for, but in the United States, we stand

1034
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:03,380
for the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

1035
01:25:03,380 --> 01:25:08,140
of every single human person because they are a human person.

1036
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,160
So why do we stand for life?

1037
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,020
Because it's right.

1038
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:27,000
I think we have a speaker already walking towards podium.

1039
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,020
If she slips out the door, I'll know why I was wrong.

1040
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:33,120
And I was.

1041
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:34,860
Yes, ma'am.

1042
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,140
Plus, her heart, you know?

1043
01:25:41,970 --> 01:25:43,690
Hi, I'm Anne Fachock.

1044
01:25:44,030 --> 01:25:46,550
I live 52-40 Brown Road, Oxford, Ohio.

1045
01:25:47,190 --> 01:25:49,550
Councilwoman, I'm here to say, you deserve better.

1046
01:25:50,230 --> 01:25:51,470
Women deserve better.

1047
01:25:52,130 --> 01:25:53,710
We deserve better.

1048
01:25:54,270 --> 01:25:56,190
We deserve better than abusive relationships.

1049
01:25:56,710 --> 01:25:57,750
We deserve better than rape.

1050
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:59,630
We deserve better than sexual assault.

1051
01:25:59,690 --> 01:26:01,230
We deserve better than low incomes.

1052
01:26:01,450 --> 01:26:03,290
We deserve better than having to side,

1053
01:26:03,650 --> 01:26:04,890
whether we want to start a family,

1054
01:26:04,890 --> 01:26:06,930
or have an education in the career.

1055
01:26:08,450 --> 01:26:09,530
We deserve better than abortion.

1056
01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:12,250
Abortion does not solve any of those issues.

1057
01:26:12,650 --> 01:26:14,030
Abortion does not undo your rate.

1058
01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:16,470
Unbortion does not get you out of an abusive relationship.

1059
01:26:17,150 --> 01:26:19,950
Abortion does not give you the extra $500 you need

1060
01:26:19,950 --> 01:26:21,050
to make rent this month.

1061
01:26:22,510 --> 01:26:24,530
What really happens during an abortion?

1062
01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:27,750
A lot of times we say it's the end of a pregnancy.

1063
01:26:29,730 --> 01:26:33,350
But abortion specifically targets the life of an unborn child.

1064
01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:37,790
Talking about elective abortion obviously not spontaneous abortion with miscarriages or

1065
01:26:37,790 --> 01:26:40,670
topic pregnancies, those are tragedies because of the loss of life.

1066
01:26:41,130 --> 01:26:44,990
They're tragedies for the same reason that elective abortion is a tragedy.

1067
01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:52,930
When you have a late term abortion that fails and the child is born alive, we end up in a crisis

1068
01:26:52,930 --> 01:26:57,510
and that's how we have all these things that these born alive bills, where we have to figure out what

1069
01:26:57,510 --> 01:27:03,330
happens and the reason why that's considered a failed abortion is because the purpose of the

1070
01:27:03,330 --> 01:27:04,170
to end the life.

1071
01:27:04,750 --> 01:27:06,470
How do we know that it even is a human life?

1072
01:27:06,570 --> 01:27:07,910
And that is worth the spending anyways?

1073
01:27:08,830 --> 01:27:11,410
We know that it is alive because it grows, it develops,

1074
01:27:11,590 --> 01:27:13,590
it takes in nutrients and it responds to stimuli.

1075
01:27:14,810 --> 01:27:17,490
We also know that it's human because it has human DNA.

1076
01:27:17,930 --> 01:27:18,830
It comes from human parents.

1077
01:27:18,970 --> 01:27:20,170
What else would it be, a cat?

1078
01:27:21,110 --> 01:27:22,630
Now, the skin cells on my arm.

1079
01:27:22,850 --> 01:27:24,710
They're also alive and they have human DNA.

1080
01:27:24,990 --> 01:27:25,950
But they are an awful person.

1081
01:27:26,510 --> 01:27:30,030
How do we know that the fetus, psychotembrial, the baby?

1082
01:27:30,190 --> 01:27:32,990
How do we know that that is a whole complete human being?

1083
01:27:32,990 --> 01:27:37,650
Because we give it an upnutrition, the proper environment, and enough of time, it will develop

1084
01:27:37,650 --> 01:27:41,650
into a mature member of its species, and the egg won't do that a sperm won't do that,

1085
01:27:41,710 --> 01:27:42,830
but a blastocyte will.

1086
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:50,410
That fertilized egg once the sperm meets the egg, that becomes a full complete living human being.

1087
01:27:50,910 --> 01:27:55,050
You said, we have no freedom if we don't have reproductive freedom.

1088
01:27:55,370 --> 01:27:58,510
I say we have no rights if we don't have the right to life.

1089
01:27:58,510 --> 01:28:03,710
the right to be protected and our mothers will. The one place that we should be safe.

1090
01:28:04,450 --> 01:28:08,070
You don't have to listen to me. You don't have to believe the words I'm saying.

1091
01:28:08,370 --> 01:28:12,130
You don't have to go and pro-life for the rest of your life after this.

1092
01:28:12,430 --> 01:28:14,430
But you do have to speak for me today.

1093
01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:19,410
And I asked for you to speak for me by staying silent on this issue.

1094
01:28:19,590 --> 01:28:21,850
I've not voting for this dissent.

1095
01:28:23,370 --> 01:28:25,430
We don't all agree with this decision.

1096
01:28:25,430 --> 01:28:30,050
And the fact in the matter is, we don't have to say, yes, as a city of Oxford, we agree

1097
01:28:30,050 --> 01:28:36,090
with Roe versus Wafing overturned, or we disagree with it, because we never will reach a conclusion

1098
01:28:36,090 --> 01:28:37,530
on that in this room today.

1099
01:28:38,050 --> 01:28:42,050
And that is why I'm asking for you to speak for me today by voting against the resolution.

1100
01:28:42,530 --> 01:28:43,350
Thank you very much.

1101
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:44,390
Thank you for coming.

1102
01:28:46,980 --> 01:28:49,480
All right, if we exhausted, no, we haven't.

1103
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:50,460
Please come forward.

1104
01:28:59,980 --> 01:29:04,500
Hi, my name is Charlotte Waldron, and I live on 46th of Hamilton, Scipio Road, and I'm a student

1105
01:29:04,500 --> 01:29:05,660
here at Miami University.

1106
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,640
I had not originally planned to come speak today,

1107
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:10,820
so I'm a little bit unprepared,

1108
01:29:11,220 --> 01:29:12,600
but there were a few things that were said

1109
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,500
during the course of this discussion,

1110
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,280
or a public comment that I would just like to

1111
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:19,800
make some points on.

1112
01:29:20,500 --> 01:29:24,240
The first thing that I wanted to talk about was

1113
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:29,300
the idea that the majority of people

1114
01:29:29,300 --> 01:29:32,480
do support abortion on demand without restriction,

1115
01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:34,440
it's actually completely untrue.

1116
01:29:35,780 --> 01:29:38,100
According to a self-university poll,

1117
01:29:38,860 --> 01:29:42,360
over 67% of American voters support

1118
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:43,980
some restriction on abortion.

1119
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:47,660
You can look this up if you don't believe me,

1120
01:29:48,740 --> 01:29:53,080
but it's a self-university poll from July, I believe.

1121
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,680
So to say that this is in support of the community,

1122
01:29:59,680 --> 01:29:59,880
You

1123
01:30:00,370 --> 01:30:14,770
So, something that the community agrees on, I think, is a complete misrepresentation of the issue. The fact is that the majority of Americans, and honestly, the majority of Ohioans, don't agree on the topic. In fact, they disagree with you.

1124
01:30:16,300 --> 01:30:29,720
The second thing I want to reiterate is that ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion and should not be included in the idea that abortion restrictions will lead to harm to the mother.

1125
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:35,880
Ohio does not prohibit ectopic pregnancy treatments because it is not an abortion.

1126
01:30:36,620 --> 01:30:42,840
One is the tragic loss of a human life and the other one is an equally tragic but intentional killing of a human life.

1127
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:47,400
96% of biologists affirmed that life begins a conception.

1128
01:30:49,460 --> 01:30:53,540
You say that this resolution is meant to be historic and symbolic.

1129
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,120
I agree, it is very historic.

1130
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:00,360
But it's on the right, on the wrong side of history.

1131
01:31:02,380 --> 01:31:11,640
I would challenge any city council member to come up with a scenario when denying a human being's personhood

1132
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:15,800
has been the right side of history. Thank you.

1133
01:31:15,820 --> 01:31:16,300
Thank you.

1134
01:31:22,500 --> 01:31:24,620
We got some from the back here.

1135
01:31:31,670 --> 01:31:37,790
Good evening, everyone. My name is Elizabeth Travis, and I live at 109 Stuart Square, Oxford, Ohio.

1136
01:31:38,790 --> 01:31:42,070
I would like to start by re-emphasizing the fact that the Po-Life

1137
01:31:42,070 --> 01:31:45,910
movement is dedicated to loving and supporting both the mother and the child.

1138
01:31:47,210 --> 01:31:49,490
I want to address something the councilwoman shared.

1139
01:31:50,290 --> 01:31:56,310
Several countries were listed with lower mortality rates for women giving birth in the United

1140
01:31:56,310 --> 01:31:57,130
States.

1141
01:31:58,150 --> 01:32:02,370
High mortality rates are absolutely an issue and should be addressed.

1142
01:32:02,970 --> 01:32:07,810
But, stricter abortion laws simply do not cause higher mortality rates.

1143
01:32:08,470 --> 01:32:12,910
Most if not, all of the countries listed by the Council woman actually have much stricter

1144
01:32:12,910 --> 01:32:14,950
abortion laws than the United States.

1145
01:32:14,950 --> 01:32:19,290
These countries who limit abortion access have lower mortality rates.

1146
01:32:19,470 --> 01:32:25,030
While the United States, with least service abortion laws, has a much higher mortality rate.

1147
01:32:25,510 --> 01:32:30,170
If anything, the statistics shared by the Council woman are another argument

1148
01:32:30,170 --> 01:32:34,030
and fever of tighter abortion laws and not supporting this resolution.

1149
01:32:34,650 --> 01:32:35,200
Thank you.

1150
01:32:35,790 --> 01:32:36,350
Thank you.

1151
01:32:38,130 --> 01:32:38,650
Okay.

1152
01:32:38,650 --> 01:32:41,390
Okay. Oh, we got more. Okay.

1153
01:32:46,540 --> 01:32:49,340
I didn't see her. So it's a look at her.

1154
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,760
We'll get to everybody who wants to speak.

1155
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:58,980
My name is Ryan Fair and I reside at 4350 Oxford Rally Road. Welcome.

1156
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:05,100
And tonight I would like to address forced birth. It was talked about earlier.

1157
01:33:05,940 --> 01:33:13,440
What people do not realize is a baby will be born regardless of whether it is an abortion or a live birth.

1158
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:21,640
A baby in a chemical abortion will be born likely over a toilet seat in private, or a baby

1159
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:26,120
will be born through dismemberment at the tools of an abortion missed.

1160
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:30,700
Or a baby can be born through a natural process at the time when nature decides it is

1161
01:33:30,700 --> 01:33:31,560
ready to be born.

1162
01:33:31,940 --> 01:33:37,100
But stop calling pro-lifers pro-force birth when you are also pro-force birth, you are just

1163
01:33:37,100 --> 01:33:39,400
pro-force birth at an abortionist tools.

1164
01:33:40,620 --> 01:33:41,060
Thank you.

1165
01:33:41,140 --> 01:33:41,720
Thank you.

1166
01:33:44,150 --> 01:33:49,350
there was someone else, yes, for yes, that's you.

1167
01:34:01,910 --> 01:34:01,910
Welcome.

1168
01:34:04,510 --> 01:34:05,390
Welcome. Dana

1169
01:34:05,390 --> 01:34:08,850
done again, 6490 in Hawksford, Ohio.

1170
01:34:11,230 --> 01:34:13,860
First thing I want to say is thank you,

1171
01:34:15,230 --> 01:34:22,590
Franklin for giving your story. I can relate to that. I just want to encourage

1172
01:34:22,590 --> 01:34:28,690
Council that I don't believe that this is a function of City Council to put this resolution

1173
01:34:28,690 --> 01:34:29,570
in.

1174
01:34:29,570 --> 01:34:34,970
I don't believe that you're representing all of the constituents here even though the

1175
01:34:34,970 --> 01:34:41,010
statement here on the document states that you City Council calls for their highest state

1176
01:34:41,010 --> 01:34:45,470
legislative or to listen to the majority of our state's residents and I say yes that's true.

1177
01:34:46,170 --> 01:34:49,850
But the majority of the residents do not want abortion as legal.

1178
01:34:49,850 --> 01:34:54,690
So, if you're going to write your name, you're signing this document, I just encourage you

1179
01:34:54,690 --> 01:34:58,770
to make sure you're signing a document that's accurate, I don't believe that your statement

1180
01:34:58,770 --> 01:35:04,830
is accurate because then it says that in the bottom in Section 3 that you're encouraging

1181
01:35:04,830 --> 01:35:09,610
you know, Oxford and Ohio residents to express their opinions by contacting the representatives

1182
01:35:09,610 --> 01:35:14,950
and by exercising the power of the ballot, if I'm to exercise the power of the ballot, then

1183
01:35:14,950 --> 01:35:19,530
Why are you stating that the majority of a higher residence went murder in the womb legalized

1184
01:35:19,530 --> 01:35:21,090
before the votes been taken?

1185
01:35:22,730 --> 01:35:24,710
You're stating something that's not packed.

1186
01:35:25,490 --> 01:35:28,110
And are you lying or are you promoting your own agenda?

1187
01:35:29,390 --> 01:35:34,150
So I just, I'm just asking you that, you know, and it said that you want this resolution

1188
01:35:34,150 --> 01:35:36,830
to take effect of the early state, the law will allow them.

1189
01:35:36,950 --> 01:35:40,210
And I just want to encourage you that by signing this resolution, you're opposing the God

1190
01:35:40,210 --> 01:35:44,850
of Abraham Isaac and take up the same God that you pledged when you, when you talked about

1191
01:35:44,850 --> 01:35:51,190
pledge of allegiance and you said one nation under God, that God. That same God is who you are

1192
01:35:51,190 --> 01:35:56,710
going to be coming up against. And that's not a threat, it's just reality. And so, you know,

1193
01:35:56,710 --> 01:35:59,530
someone asked if you were on the right side of history, I want to ask if you're on the right

1194
01:35:59,530 --> 01:36:05,510
side of God. Because I've been on the wrong side of God and it leads to destruction. So I stand here

1195
01:36:05,510 --> 01:36:12,530
before you because I'm post-abortive. I was in college and was in God pregnant and didn't know what to

1196
01:36:12,530 --> 01:36:17,330
with that. So because I was given all the lies that hey, it's just a full

1197
01:36:17,330 --> 01:36:22,070
of cells. It's not a big deal. Go ahead and do it. It'll make your life better. I said

1198
01:36:22,070 --> 01:36:27,290
sure. And I had the abortion and I just want to tell you that destroyed my life.

1199
01:36:28,250 --> 01:36:35,070
Absolutely destroyed my life. So you're your subject to thoughts of suicide. You have issues

1200
01:36:35,070 --> 01:36:42,210
with just life in general. I had so much anger and hate. So much anger and hate towards

1201
01:36:42,210 --> 01:36:47,030
the child's father that it ruined that relationship and no one wants to talk about that either.

1202
01:36:47,190 --> 01:36:52,070
How many people who have had an abortion does that relationship stay together? The numbers

1203
01:36:52,070 --> 01:36:56,690
very low. And I'm sure as you know our police chief can tell you you can tell you about the

1204
01:36:56,690 --> 01:37:01,370
anger and hate and domestic violence that he's probably sees on a regular basis and I just want

1205
01:37:01,370 --> 01:37:05,890
to ask how many of that is due to people who are post-aborted because they don't know how to

1206
01:37:05,890 --> 01:37:11,070
deal with the pain and I didn't know how to deal with the pain because as someone else said that

1207
01:37:11,070 --> 01:37:17,430
you hated yourself. So Amber, I was, I'm sorry, I'm really not your first name basis, Miss

1208
01:37:17,430 --> 01:37:17,790
Franklin.

1209
01:37:21,010 --> 01:37:24,150
To be in that place where, you know, yeah, it's an unwanted pregnancy and you

1210
01:37:24,150 --> 01:37:29,810
don't know what to do. And by the grace of God, you didn't have to make the decision I made. And

1211
01:37:29,810 --> 01:37:34,290
so I just want you, you know, I'd love to sit down and have a cup of coffee and share my whole story

1212
01:37:34,290 --> 01:37:40,470
with you. Because it's easy to say, you know what, I'm glad that it was a choice. But you didn't

1213
01:37:40,470 --> 01:37:44,510
follow through with it. And had you follow through with it, you might be giving me a

1214
01:37:44,510 --> 01:37:51,450
different answer because I was per choice. I believed that we should have that right until

1215
01:37:51,450 --> 01:37:56,430
then it happened to my life and then everything fell apart. You know, I'm divorced today

1216
01:37:56,430 --> 01:38:00,570
because of that abortion. My children don't have their older brother and sister that are

1217
01:38:00,570 --> 01:38:10,450
in heaven because of that abortion. My life has just been on a horrible trajectory because of

1218
01:38:10,450 --> 01:38:15,850
people and say, hey, we're doing this on your behalf. We're doing this because we think this is good.

1219
01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:21,350
Typically, you see resolutions like, hey, you know, Miami Red Hawk Day because they won the championship

1220
01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:28,270
and that unites the community. But this resolution is going to divide this community. It already is.

1221
01:38:28,930 --> 01:38:34,990
So if you want to put a resolution for that's divisive, so be it. That's your choice. But I don't think

1222
01:38:34,990 --> 01:38:39,950
it's wise, let's try to bring the community together and say, you know what, let's just

1223
01:38:39,950 --> 01:38:44,390
leave that over here for someone to make their own decision. But recognize that when people

1224
01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:49,610
make that decision, it has these ramifications that affect them for a lifetime and it's

1225
01:38:49,610 --> 01:38:55,810
destruction. So I just want you to really consider that, you know, look me in the eye, you know,

1226
01:38:55,950 --> 01:39:01,550
ask me my story. I will share it with you. Have a cup of coffee with me. I'll share my story

1227
01:39:01,550 --> 01:39:04,570
with you and let you know how this is affected in my life.

1228
01:39:05,210 --> 01:39:07,790
And you have also used exactly five minutes.

1229
01:39:08,030 --> 01:39:08,630
Good job.

1230
01:39:09,530 --> 01:39:10,490
Thank you for your time.

1231
01:39:10,550 --> 01:39:11,350
Well, let's see.

1232
01:39:11,470 --> 01:39:12,770
Well, you had an alarm.

1233
01:39:13,850 --> 01:39:14,590
Thank you.

1234
01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:15,130
That's good.

1235
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:18,260
Welcome.

1236
01:39:18,980 --> 01:39:19,400
Hi.

1237
01:39:19,620 --> 01:39:20,380
My name's Ophelia.

1238
01:39:20,540 --> 01:39:22,660
I was on the side of that 112 West High Street.

1239
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,380
And I also wasn't planning on speaking today.

1240
01:39:25,700 --> 01:39:28,540
But if we're going to talk about how each story is different,

1241
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:30,140
let's talk about it.

1242
01:39:30,140 --> 01:39:40,180
I had an abortion last year, I never planned on getting pregnant who does at this age, not me, and it was the best choice I've ever made.

1243
01:39:40,480 --> 01:39:47,500
Thank God I had that choice, and I probably wouldn't have known about all my choices if it honestly wasn't for Megan.

1244
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:57,860
Like, I am so grateful that I have someone in my life who allowed me to understand all the options through class, not even through personal, like whatever.

1245
01:39:57,860 --> 01:40:04,760
I'm so grateful, but, you know, I check all the boxes for having it being privileged.

1246
01:40:05,420 --> 01:40:11,960
I am in a loving relationship with my partner, I am financially stable, I am enrolled

1247
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:20,140
in college here, and that we don't talk about that side, I mean, yes, we are focused

1248
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:25,920
on individuals who can't raise a child and choose abortion, because of poverty, I'm not

1249
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:31,060
that situation and it was the best option for me still I would have had the means to raise a child

1250
01:40:32,260 --> 01:40:40,020
and I know that I don't struggle with any mental health issues now. I was when I was pregnant,

1251
01:40:40,820 --> 01:40:46,900
I would have if I kept a baby and I don't think my heart breaks for the people who

1252
01:40:48,500 --> 01:40:55,080
have had a different experience who chose abortion and didn't have or we're not provided with the

1253
01:40:55,080 --> 01:41:02,340
after that but they had the choice and they chose that and if that was the right choice

1254
01:41:02,340 --> 01:41:10,080
good for them if it wasn't they still had that if I didn't have the choice I probably would

1255
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:14,780
still be suicidal I probably would still be suffering from all the mental health issues I have when I first

1256
01:41:14,780 --> 01:41:23,040
found out of the pregnant I don't believe that many people here are acknowledging the positive side

1257
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:31,120
of it, and this Franklin, thank you for sharing your story, but it's so brave, and I just

1258
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:38,140
believe that no one here would know if I had an abortion tomorrow. I don't know anyone

1259
01:41:38,140 --> 01:41:43,720
here who has had an abortion, it will never affect anyone else in this room. They know because

1260
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:44,820
I just said it.

1261
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:52,420
I am not. No one needs to be bothered by people's choices. And so, thank

1262
01:41:52,420 --> 01:41:52,700
you.

1263
01:41:52,700 --> 01:41:55,480
Thank you for coming.

1264
01:41:56,060 --> 01:41:56,580
Yes.

1265
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,500
My dream, Turner, 18-Quilwood fridge drive.

1266
01:42:08,540 --> 01:42:10,060
I just want to stay giving your address,

1267
01:42:10,180 --> 01:42:10,940
build really weird.

1268
01:42:11,700 --> 01:42:14,440
I can't be the only one that thinks that's kind of strange

1269
01:42:14,440 --> 01:42:16,560
in front of everybody that's going to see this.

1270
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:19,480
But anyways, I'm here to talk about something

1271
01:42:19,480 --> 01:42:21,660
that hasn't been addressed fully.

1272
01:42:23,020 --> 01:42:25,660
You keep talking about this symbolic resolution.

1273
01:42:26,460 --> 01:42:28,140
And I'm wondering how we can actually

1274
01:42:28,140 --> 01:42:29,860
come up with a real resolution.

1275
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:34,860
So, I want to talk about adoption and what that has meant for my family.

1276
01:42:35,780 --> 01:42:44,440
I have seen the other side of choosing life, but also what that has meant for our birth

1277
01:42:44,440 --> 01:42:46,160
mom and for us.

1278
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:48,420
So, I'm just going to tell a testimony.

1279
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:54,240
Our birth mom, she was in college, she went to Belmont University in Nashville, Tennessee.

1280
01:42:54,240 --> 01:43:02,060
She was a deansless student, and she knew at six weeks that she wanted to place our daughter

1281
01:43:02,060 --> 01:43:03,120
Aria for adoption.

1282
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:09,440
She is one of the strongest women that I have ever met, and that I probably will ever meet.

1283
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:17,460
With the right education and support, I think that more women would actually choose adoption over abortion.

1284
01:43:18,940 --> 01:43:26,380
That's just what I'm going to present as an idea that our city could do a better job of.

1285
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:27,400
I'm not from here.

1286
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:28,800
I've been here for six years.

1287
01:43:29,340 --> 01:43:30,180
I'm from Nashville.

1288
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:31,260
That's where we adopted.

1289
01:43:31,740 --> 01:43:36,520
When we moved here, I tried to find our adoption community and it's lacking here.

1290
01:43:36,700 --> 01:43:37,660
And I don't know why.

1291
01:43:39,140 --> 01:43:47,600
I think that there could be a lot of things that could bring that together and possibly

1292
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:53,560
increase the spirit of adoption in our town and in our region but I will say that it

1293
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:54,200
is lacking.

1294
01:43:54,520 --> 01:44:01,640
We've even tried to look into adoption in Ohio and so if you want to look at something that

1295
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:10,740
be helpful for both the mom and the baby, looking into adoption. So I have a daughter. I have three kids.

1296
01:44:11,380 --> 01:44:27,700
Arya was our first, I knew that she was conceived before I knew that we were matched. We call that knowledge and the church that I am from, but God had told me.

1297
01:44:27,700 --> 01:44:30,640
And so, I'm not trying to change your mind.

1298
01:44:30,820 --> 01:44:32,740
I think you'll already know that it's a life.

1299
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,840
So, but I am saying that I knew that she was there

1300
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,980
and that she was, she was waiting for us.

1301
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,260
I knew that it would be quick from the day

1302
01:44:43,260 --> 01:44:45,420
that we started our adoption process

1303
01:44:45,420 --> 01:44:48,560
until she was born was exactly nine months.

1304
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,160
And so you can't make that kind of stuff up.

1305
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:53,360
Two weeks after we found out

1306
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:55,280
that we were matched with our birth mom,

1307
01:44:55,580 --> 01:44:56,560
I found out that I was pregnant.

1308
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:59,900
And so God was not only working at the miracle.

1309
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,100
All the adoption out, it was working out, a miracle inside of me, also to be able to conceive.

1310
01:45:06,440 --> 01:45:14,940
And then I had two beautiful girls that are five months apart. If our birth mom would not have decided life, then she wouldn't be here.

1311
01:45:15,440 --> 01:45:26,220
So I'm grateful that she chose life, and I think that our city could rally the troops and unify in the way that would support adoption over abortion.

1312
01:45:26,740 --> 01:45:27,260
Thank you.

1313
01:45:27,260 --> 01:45:29,560
Thank you. Appreciate it.

1314
01:45:38,540 --> 01:45:41,140
Good evening, Amy Shaman, 11, Heather Ridge Court.

1315
01:45:43,500 --> 01:45:45,400
So many things to possibly say.

1316
01:45:47,420 --> 01:45:49,600
So, I speak to her as a parent,

1317
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:52,580
as a deeply, deeply religious person.

1318
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:57,300
And I want to say that I very much value life.

1319
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:00,060
My Jewish tradition, very much, value life.

1320
01:46:00,660 --> 01:46:04,140
I do a tradition places the value of the existing life

1321
01:46:04,140 --> 01:46:13,840
over the potential life and that is that in cases where there is a woman who for reasons

1322
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:18,900
of her physical health, her mental health, the rest of her family's health well-being,

1323
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:25,080
ability to be safe, the Judaism is in support of abortion.

1324
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:31,200
More than that, we live in a country that is about choice and I challenge every person

1325
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:38,780
seeing this room to really deeply think about whether they're okay with a government official

1326
01:46:38,780 --> 01:46:45,140
deciding what medical procedures do or do not happen on their own body. I challenge every

1327
01:46:45,140 --> 01:46:51,060
gentleman seeing in this room every male identified person to think about whether it would be

1328
01:46:51,060 --> 01:46:58,120
okay with you if I got to decide randomly what happened to your private decisions and what happened

1329
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:00,540
to your private bodily parts.

1330
01:47:01,700 --> 01:47:08,820
If you are all enthusiastic about that, then perhaps you are okay with women not being able

1331
01:47:08,820 --> 01:47:14,020
to make decisions or their doctors, not being able to make decisions that protect the life

1332
01:47:14,020 --> 01:47:17,460
of a mother, for the children she has.

1333
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:22,060
I don't have the statistic with me because I came from a work event and I didn't have the statistics

1334
01:47:22,060 --> 01:47:28,340
with me, but a significant percentage of the abortions that happen in this country happened to

1335
01:47:28,340 --> 01:47:35,280
women who already have children and who are making the very, very difficult decisions about

1336
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:41,160
being able to have another child to have all the blessings and stresses and challenges that come

1337
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:47,760
with being a parent, as well as being able to feed how it's closed, etc. It's very easy for some

1338
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:55,360
this room to say that we're pro-life and there's no other way about it. I wonder how much we are

1339
01:47:55,360 --> 01:48:02,280
really truly willing to house feed, educate the children who are born and who are born into families

1340
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:07,760
that can't take care of them or have struggles and mental illness and ways of the children know that

1341
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:13,720
they are not desired. Until we as a society have the support systems in place to really support

1342
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:20,450
every child to really be able to nurture them and see them as the precious beings they are.

1343
01:48:22,300 --> 01:48:29,830
Even then, this needs to be the choice of a one. A pregnant person and their doctor. Thank you.

1344
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:31,520
Thank you.

1345
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:34,900
Go ahead, Sam.

1346
01:48:38,370 --> 01:48:43,290
Raise his mic a little. Good evening, everybody. My name is Sam Lawrence.

1347
01:48:43,290 --> 01:48:46,290
I reside at 59 99 contraris road.

1348
01:48:47,690 --> 01:48:55,630
First of all, I want to thank Council for considering the resolution, thank councilor's French and Franklin for your action, and especially you, Councillor Franklin for sharing your personal story.

1349
01:48:57,530 --> 01:49:01,350
I heard a few polls brought up earlier this evening, so I want to bring up a few of my own.

1350
01:49:01,950 --> 01:49:12,670
A few research poll that was done a few months ago shows over 61% of Americans want to protect abortion rights access across the board, a suffoc poll, which I believe one of those was also brought up earlier.

1351
01:49:12,670 --> 01:49:19,950
said that 53% of Ohioans want to protect abortion access across the board, as well as in the state of Kansas,

1352
01:49:20,270 --> 01:49:24,130
supposedly one of the most red and pro-life states in the nation, a ballot measure

1353
01:49:24,130 --> 01:49:28,730
stripping the right to an abortion from the state constitution was shot down by 20 points.

1354
01:49:29,410 --> 01:49:33,390
This is a clear issue. This resolution is justified for just a few reasons,

1355
01:49:33,650 --> 01:49:36,510
which I'll list off. I won't take all our time here. It's been a long night.

1356
01:49:37,330 --> 01:49:42,050
Although, this is a symbolic measure, the Scottish decision was decided to impart by three

1357
01:49:42,050 --> 01:49:46,170
justices who testified under oath that they would not overturn subtle precedent.

1358
01:49:47,230 --> 01:49:51,550
Secondly, abortion is health care, as we've heard stories from across the nation are popping

1359
01:49:51,550 --> 01:49:56,770
up in which doctors refuse to give the medical care needed to a pregnant mother due to

1360
01:49:56,770 --> 01:49:58,710
the restrictive state laws that are in place.

1361
01:49:59,770 --> 01:50:03,930
Three, banning abortions doesn't actually ban safe abortions, or I'm sorry, it doesn't

1362
01:50:03,930 --> 01:50:04,790
actually ban abortions.

1363
01:50:04,790 --> 01:50:10,470
It banned safe abortions, having a child can push new mothers into poverty and into situations

1364
01:50:10,470 --> 01:50:14,110
with which they're not ready to expect as they are raising a kid.

1365
01:50:14,350 --> 01:50:19,350
Lastly, the Scottish decision disproportionately affects our most vulnerable communities,

1366
01:50:20,170 --> 01:50:25,710
as well as rich people will still be able to get abortions to put it quite literally.

1367
01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:29,890
They can fly to a different state, a sanctuary state, such as California, Oregon, Illinois,

1368
01:50:29,910 --> 01:50:31,970
closer to us, and get an abortion.

1369
01:50:31,970 --> 01:50:37,550
I heard someone mention that Council may be unwelcoming to some due to this resolution.

1370
01:50:37,950 --> 01:50:43,850
I strongly disagree, I thank you for your debate on this resolution and I support the

1371
01:50:43,850 --> 01:50:44,190
resolution.

1372
01:50:44,610 --> 01:50:45,210
Thank you.

1373
01:50:45,490 --> 01:50:46,290
Thank you.

1374
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:48,560
One more.

1375
01:51:01,740 --> 01:51:02,480
I'm Walter Cress.

1376
01:51:02,940 --> 01:51:07,840
I reside at 124 West Sigma because my mom chose life.

1377
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:12,020
I think we can all take a moment and realize that all of our mothers chose life and that's

1378
01:51:12,020 --> 01:51:12,740
why we're here.

1379
01:51:13,540 --> 01:51:16,860
I stand for life, my family stands for life.

1380
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:19,740
We stand for life and we support women.

1381
01:51:20,440 --> 01:51:23,020
Pregnancy centers, we support women up to four years

1382
01:51:23,020 --> 01:51:23,960
after their pregnancy.

1383
01:51:26,740 --> 01:51:29,760
I cannot stand back while I know the truth

1384
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:31,960
and not speak what I believe on.

1385
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:36,740
And I would just like to show this poster taboo line.

1386
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:40,320
This is what a baby looks like at 10 weeks old.

1387
01:51:57,030 --> 01:51:59,170
I'd like everyone to look around the room

1388
01:51:59,170 --> 01:52:05,270
And for every five people that you see, there is one person who is not born because they were

1389
01:52:05,270 --> 01:52:12,250
aborted, and they do not have a voice, and that's why I'm up here, and that's why we're here, and it's to give them a voice.

1390
01:52:12,850 --> 01:52:18,150
So we can all just take a second and look around. There are people in this room that should be in here and they are not.

1391
01:52:26,820 --> 01:52:34,400
Jeremiah one five says, before I formed you in the will of my new you and before you are born, I sent you a part.

1392
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:39,660
I appointed you as a prophet to the nation. We are one nation under God.

1393
01:52:40,700 --> 01:52:44,580
We are all sent from God for a purpose and mission.

1394
01:52:45,020 --> 01:52:47,840
And I am here to be in front of you speaking this truth.

1395
01:52:50,420 --> 01:52:56,220
I cannot stay silent and allow this to happen when I know the truth, the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

1396
01:52:57,080 --> 01:53:03,360
My savior was brought into life and gave us eternal life because his mother at 16 years

1397
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:04,600
old chose life.

1398
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:09,860
And I'd like to end in a prayer.

1399
01:53:10,660 --> 01:53:14,800
Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed our Thoumore women, and blessed

1400
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:20,020
us the fruit of Thuywin Jesus, holy man and Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at

1401
01:53:20,020 --> 01:53:21,460
the hour of our death amen.

1402
01:53:22,420 --> 01:53:23,160
Thank you.

1403
01:53:23,480 --> 01:53:23,940
Thank you.

1404
01:53:26,440 --> 01:53:26,820
All right.

1405
01:53:26,820 --> 01:53:29,300
I would like to thank everyone for coming.

1406
01:53:31,340 --> 01:53:37,600
I think we've really heard a wide range of opinions on the subject and I think every one of you for coming.

1407
01:53:38,020 --> 01:53:42,760
And I think that every one of you has strongly held and sincere beliefs.

1408
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:48,840
And we've heard a full range of that and I want to say on behalf of Council that we appreciate you coming.

1409
01:53:49,860 --> 01:53:54,480
Okay. With that, I will turn it to Council for your discussion.

1410
01:53:54,480 --> 01:54:00,080
I would like to say thank you so much for everyone for being in the room.

1411
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:03,060
It's only everybody with this politically engaged.

1412
01:54:03,180 --> 01:54:06,640
We have a much different political system, especially young people.

1413
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:07,920
And that is just back.

1414
01:54:08,420 --> 01:54:12,400
And I was also trying to really make eye contact with Christa as she was leaving

1415
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:15,740
because she and I share something in common.

1416
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:17,960
And I wish she was here for this.

1417
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:23,860
So she had a friend who was staying in her house.

1418
01:54:23,860 --> 01:54:30,820
There was a couple who was experiencing homelessness and a newborn baby.

1419
01:54:31,540 --> 01:54:35,980
I remember she posted online that they were looking for a place to stay.

1420
01:54:36,220 --> 01:54:41,400
They were currently in the hospital with their baby and did not have anywhere to go.

1421
01:54:43,140 --> 01:54:45,360
I am super pro-life.

1422
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:47,540
I said, come on in.

1423
01:54:47,700 --> 01:54:49,020
We have two extra bedrooms.

1424
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:57,300
didn't know their names, didn't have a photo, never had a newborn in my house, so they moved in.

1425
01:54:57,640 --> 01:54:58,120
They moved in.

1426
01:54:58,300 --> 01:55:07,000
I would actually, could not be there to let them in, but I knew they needed to be led in, so I had a friend unlock the door so they could move their stuff in.

1427
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:12,120
But I know they didn't have the gas money because they were driving around waiting for me to be home.

1428
01:55:15,380 --> 01:55:28,260
I did not realize that the man of the two had been arrested for domestic violence with that same girlfriend.

1429
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:35,020
I was completely unaware, and I was like, you know, I told them they can stay in my house for a month.

1430
01:55:35,020 --> 01:55:38,020
And by God, I am going to abide by that.

1431
01:55:40,420 --> 01:55:44,140
They, they, and I told them they asked why I asked why I asked and I said,

1432
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:45,940
I want you to teach me.

1433
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:50,140
I want you to teach me what we're doing so wrong.

1434
01:55:50,500 --> 01:55:54,020
What happened to you that puts you in this situation,

1435
01:55:54,300 --> 01:55:58,140
especially that man who had experienced so much trauma

1436
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:02,940
and was homeless in the age of 17, he had three other children.

1437
01:56:03,660 --> 01:56:10,040
The woman had two other children, as I teach me, teach me everything I want to just learn

1438
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:10,980
from you.

1439
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:20,980
So as things went on, we tried our damn to get them associated with our network, got them

1440
01:56:20,980 --> 01:56:23,960
a good paying job, that was way more than minimum wage.

1441
01:56:24,420 --> 01:56:32,920
My neighborhood in three cents, they knew that there was a countless family living in the

1442
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:34,700
everything they could need.

1443
01:56:36,260 --> 01:56:41,700
So when it came down to the end of the month, the guys started to get really agitated, and

1444
01:56:41,700 --> 01:56:44,920
he, of course, we know by this time, had aggressive tendency.

1445
01:56:46,540 --> 01:56:51,380
I told my husband, take the dog, get out of the house, they can do whatever they went to

1446
01:56:51,380 --> 01:56:53,540
the house, as long as we're safe.

1447
01:56:54,640 --> 01:57:03,040
We've got to have a message from the woman the next morning saying I'm so sorry, I owe

1448
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:08,340
you some money for bed sheets because he beat me and I've let all of them in the bed.

1449
01:57:08,860 --> 01:57:13,560
I said, oh my gosh, don't apologize about that. Don't worry about it. Where are you?

1450
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:18,680
I'm going to get you. She grabbed her newborn baby, which at this point was finally sold.

1451
01:57:19,140 --> 01:57:22,140
And she let. She said, I'm going to, I'm going to shelter.

1452
01:57:22,140 --> 01:57:29,200
I said, okay, because I knew she didn't have gas money, I said, where tell me if you run to problems.

1453
01:57:30,980 --> 01:57:37,980
In the neighboring three counties, there is no place for this woman to go with a newborn.

1454
01:57:38,660 --> 01:57:42,040
They were either full or they would not accept newborns.

1455
01:57:44,220 --> 01:57:49,540
She ended up back with this man because, I mean, there's no child care, right?

1456
01:57:49,540 --> 01:57:55,520
there was nowhere for her to find child care and you can't work when you have a kid. So she was

1457
01:57:55,520 --> 01:58:04,560
unfortunately ended up back with this guy. I have to touch her there. I asked her, you know,

1458
01:58:04,620 --> 01:58:13,480
of course he's not welcome but you are with your baby and my house. And I asked her what happened

1459
01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:17,380
like what's your story? What happened with the other two kids? What's going on?

1460
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:26,160
She had chaired with me that when she was 18. She was homeless then. She eventually,

1461
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:30,480
she got tricked into staying with this older man who was in his 40s.

1462
01:58:31,340 --> 01:58:36,160
He kept pressuring her because she had nowhere to go. She ended up succumbing to his advances.

1463
01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:45,840
was got pregnant when she was at the doctor's office delivering. She asked can I have a

1464
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:52,820
tubal ligation and I'm hopefully I think everyone already knows but if you don't that

1465
01:58:52,820 --> 01:58:58,480
is a procedure in which they tie off your flu B and tube so that you cannot conceive. So

1466
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:04,660
you can't have a zygote, you can't have an embryo, you can't get pregnant. She knew her

1467
01:59:04,660 --> 01:59:09,240
situation was so dire, she could not have another baby.

1468
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:15,460
A doctor told her, no, you're young, you're 18, no.

1469
01:59:17,950 --> 01:59:26,790
That was so eye-opening to me that this woman was begging for help to not have

1470
01:59:26,790 --> 01:59:27,250
another child.

1471
01:59:27,250 --> 01:59:28,510
We're not talking about aborting.

1472
01:59:28,510 --> 01:59:32,890
This woman had three kids, so we're not going to go down that road.

1473
01:59:33,830 --> 01:59:41,570
She was begging for the autonomy to determine if she will have kids or not.

1474
01:59:42,370 --> 01:59:48,150
And so that made me wonder, how much rights do we have to our own body?

1475
01:59:49,450 --> 01:59:54,910
You know, you have, every single one of us has an opportunity to save a life by donating organ.

1476
01:59:55,130 --> 01:59:58,050
Every single one of us is so beautiful, right?

1477
01:59:58,130 --> 01:59:59,470
I know people who are like,

1478
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:15,360
Also altruistic, they don't need a kidney to a stranger, and they're still alive during their 30s and their 20s, they're beautiful human beings, but no one is forcing you to donate your organs, even if it would save a life.

1479
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:17,940
So the question is,

1480
02:00:20,550 --> 02:00:26,710
do we have the right to our own body and control over what happens or do we not?

1481
02:00:28,210 --> 02:00:38,850
And to your point and homelessness, oh my gosh, we need to do so much for it and I'm going to be emailing you after the meeting

1482
02:00:39,990 --> 02:00:42,150
Because we should all care about that, right?

1483
02:00:42,550 --> 02:00:48,030
All of us should care about these people who are experiencing homelessness, these people who do not have child care.

1484
02:00:49,450 --> 02:00:54,670
And I really look forward to even adoption, I would love to connect, I'm sorry, I don't remember your name.

1485
02:00:55,050 --> 02:01:00,110
I would love to connect you with our beautiful people, there's some people in the room who have adopted children.

1486
02:01:00,610 --> 02:01:02,490
I think that's a wonderful effort.

1487
02:01:02,490 --> 02:01:12,070
And I think that we should look at what we have in common and that we all deserve the right to have autonomy over our own bodies.

1488
02:01:13,510 --> 02:01:14,550
Anyone else?

1489
02:01:15,090 --> 02:01:22,870
I would like to thank first Councilor Franch and also Councilor Franklin for putting this together.

1490
02:01:23,610 --> 02:01:30,490
I think that since the Dodson's decision a lot of us have been trying to process what this means and it's been taking the while.

1491
02:01:32,010 --> 02:01:36,310
I want to thank everyone for speaking tonight because it revealed the variety of things.

1492
02:01:36,310 --> 02:01:42,550
One is that they're very diverse opinions but there was a remarkable unanimity which is people talked about

1493
02:01:43,830 --> 02:01:52,390
the complexity and personal nature of the decision, and decisions imply choice, and that's

1494
02:01:52,390 --> 02:01:57,190
a decision that's best made between a person and their doctor and their loved ones, and

1495
02:01:57,190 --> 02:02:04,650
it's not really a place for government to constrain those decision choices. And so I think

1496
02:02:04,650 --> 02:02:08,410
it's a little awkward for us to be talking about it, but the decision puts this effort

1497
02:02:08,410 --> 02:02:13,290
in the political area, this ought to be a matter of constitutional right privacy, but it's

1498
02:02:13,290 --> 02:02:18,470
in the political arena now. Whether this was symbolic or not, I mean resolutions, we have

1499
02:02:18,470 --> 02:02:24,210
two different choices in which to act one as legislation, as one as resolution. This is

1500
02:02:24,210 --> 02:02:29,630
a resolution, but it speaks the resolve of the council as the representative body of the

1501
02:02:29,630 --> 02:02:33,210
city of Oxford, and I'm confident in knowing the constituents, and I've lived in here for

1502
02:02:33,210 --> 02:02:40,190
20 years that the majority of officer supports this resolution, barring polls, I know that

1503
02:02:40,190 --> 02:02:40,770
that would be true.

1504
02:02:42,210 --> 02:02:44,950
So I think that this is important.

1505
02:02:45,150 --> 02:02:48,770
I think there's a lot of work to do because it is now in the political arena and that's

1506
02:02:48,770 --> 02:02:50,530
why people run for office.

1507
02:02:52,990 --> 02:02:54,690
So Sam, thank you for being here.

1508
02:02:55,410 --> 02:02:58,350
One thing I would say, though, also, is that I've been thinking about this a lot.

1509
02:02:58,510 --> 02:03:02,190
I think we need to take this as not just a symbolic, it will communicate to our legislators.

1510
02:03:02,190 --> 02:03:10,910
You know, these are legislators who probably passed a law that would force a 10-year-old to bear the child of rape.

1511
02:03:12,070 --> 02:03:16,930
And so I don't have a lot of optimism about them listening to us.

1512
02:03:17,090 --> 02:03:23,850
So in that point of view, I think we also need to be thinking about what things that we can also do beyond the representative and the material things.

1513
02:03:23,850 --> 02:03:29,190
And the number of cities in the United States have, if travel is what it takes to get the

1514
02:03:29,190 --> 02:03:34,450
healthcare that you need, cities like Austin and St. Louis and Cleveland have financially

1515
02:03:34,450 --> 02:03:39,950
supported public health providers to enable people to get the medical services that aren't

1516
02:03:39,950 --> 02:03:40,350
offered.

1517
02:03:40,730 --> 02:03:43,930
The choice has been an odd offered in their community, and that's something I think that we

1518
02:03:43,930 --> 02:03:45,970
could look at doing that is goes beyond symbolism.

1519
02:03:47,690 --> 02:03:52,590
So, sorry, I just want to thank, it was a good and productive conversation, but it affirms

1520
02:03:52,590 --> 02:03:58,250
certain things, which is this resolution is the right message, I think, for the Council of the City of Oxford.

1521
02:04:00,270 --> 02:04:01,030
Anyone else?

1522
02:04:01,270 --> 02:04:02,190
I'd like to share my thoughts.

1523
02:04:03,210 --> 02:04:03,570
Pardon me.

1524
02:04:03,830 --> 02:04:05,050
I'm freezing here.

1525
02:04:05,190 --> 02:04:06,110
Actually, shivering.

1526
02:04:08,150 --> 02:04:09,570
That's why I wear sweater.

1527
02:04:13,330 --> 02:04:22,570
The first comment I wanted to make is that I feel like Council was being lobbied by the number of

1528
02:04:22,570 --> 02:04:28,570
There's no thoughts on this, and they put that voice forward through voting, but in terms of legislating, this is a matter of ethics.

1529
02:04:28,630 --> 02:04:36,760
And I don't think to have any personal religious view that leads us there.

1530
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:42,580
It's something that needs to be in the virtual and objective and applies to everyone equally regardless of their religious background.

1531
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:50,840
That being said, I'll put out my views of abortion rights, which I believe is a nethical account of it.

1532
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:59,400
So, the things that make us meaningfully alive and human consciousness, autonomy, self-awareness, capacity to suffer,

1533
02:05:00,040 --> 02:05:03,280
these are things that don't occur at all, or at least very late in pregnancy.

1534
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:06,220
They certainly do not occur at conception.

1535
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:14,060
The fetus is only the potential of medical life in personhood that we would tend to grant rights to in terms of the history of law and ethics.

1536
02:05:15,020 --> 02:05:20,920
A ventilator portion is to ignore the rights of the fully formed thinking, feeling person, to

1537
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:25,940
control their own body, in an attempt to grant rights to an unformed, unthinking, unfailing,

1538
02:05:26,120 --> 02:05:26,900
potential person.

1539
02:05:28,440 --> 02:05:31,520
We don't obligate parents to donate organs to their fully formed children.

1540
02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:37,280
It's an I-Rite to an abortion-stallplicated person who is pregnant to donate their entire body

1541
02:05:37,280 --> 02:05:39,320
for nine months to a fetus.

1542
02:05:40,820 --> 02:05:46,500
a situation mentioned earlier, in cases in which a family member is unconscious and is on

1543
02:05:46,500 --> 02:05:50,820
life support, we grant family members right to make decisions of life and death in their

1544
02:05:50,820 --> 02:05:51,340
path.

1545
02:05:52,280 --> 02:05:58,800
In this situation, we should grant at least the same for a potential person that is essentially

1546
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:02,560
being supported by the body and another fully formed human being.

1547
02:06:05,260 --> 02:06:12,280
We know that, again, banning abortion doesn't ban abortion events, it leads to unsafe

1548
02:06:12,280 --> 02:06:15,480
abortions, and it increases maternal mortality.

1549
02:06:16,180 --> 02:06:23,020
The way to look at that is not just to see that other places that have loose restrictions

1550
02:06:23,020 --> 02:06:30,740
on abortion, have greater or lesser maternal mortality when you control for the factors

1551
02:06:30,740 --> 02:06:35,760
do a proper study. All the studies, all the experts agree that maternal mortality will increase

1552
02:06:35,760 --> 02:06:42,180
going forward because of what we've done with Roe V Wade and restrictions on abortion access.

1553
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:46,660
I would also like to say that it seems insistent not focus more on

1554
02:06:46,660 --> 02:06:50,380
birth control, which avoids all of this, and also preventing miscarriages.

1555
02:06:51,820 --> 02:06:57,040
These have been in much higher numbers than abortions, and in this case you're not

1556
02:06:57,040 --> 02:07:00,740
denying the rights of a fully-formed human in addressing these.

1557
02:07:01,300 --> 02:07:05,240
There are also a number of staffs thrown out that we're not accurate, or we're cherry-picked.

1558
02:07:06,140 --> 02:07:10,060
Over ninety-five percent of those who have had abortions do not regret it, and believe

1559
02:07:10,060 --> 02:07:12,420
those the right decision for them.

1560
02:07:12,920 --> 02:07:17,620
Sam mentioned some statistics that I was going to mention, 50 percent, 50 percent of the

1561
02:07:17,620 --> 02:07:21,440
public disagrees with overturning Roe B. Wade, 53 percent of Ohioans.

1562
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:26,100
Now, to me, that's important to know the constituents because that should factor in, but

1563
02:07:26,100 --> 02:07:36,100
But that's not cheap to me, it's something's right, it's right, something's wrong, it's wrong and I think that needs to be acted on, but I would like to get the facts straight around that.

1564
02:07:37,400 --> 02:07:45,420
And I think that's just about it, I could go on a list of other statistics, but that's my position that's where I stand, I think it's an ethical one, I fully support this resolution.

1565
02:07:48,900 --> 02:07:49,620
You

1566
02:07:51,730 --> 02:08:11,210
guys heard me talking about a lot of comfortable and controversial things up here, and I say same thing yeah, I always say before I'm pretty insistent on their faith and science that I ultimately is about paying those choices over forcing someone to pay them for the circle.

1567
02:08:11,210 --> 02:08:13,450
I'm going to tell you a little bit about myself

1568
02:08:15,470 --> 02:08:35,970
and a president when a president sees his agenda, it's not too far, it's story, there's a mother, there's the light in the child and the home, and I lost the opportunity to be a father several times through the voluntary ending of the holidays.

1569
02:08:37,290 --> 02:08:43,150
So that being said, I know that whenever that happens,

1570
02:08:43,150 --> 02:08:51,970
There's a weight you have to care both the mother and the father. If the father knows that there was a life that he may have created

1571
02:08:54,210 --> 02:09:01,130
I've heard both sides of that sometimes that weight is very white sometimes that weight is insurmountable

1572
02:09:01,130 --> 02:09:10,630
But that's still a weight and even though I was a party that didn't have the opportunity to affect a particular choice

1573
02:09:10,630 --> 02:09:15,090
I'm not going to be a person that says I

1574
02:09:15,390 --> 02:09:24,430
need to force someone to make a choice about themselves because that is an autonomy situation

1575
02:09:24,430 --> 02:09:32,130
as well as the quality of the living. As in elected opinion, I have to go with what is the best thing

1576
02:09:32,130 --> 02:09:37,710
in life and speech. Is it allowing them to do the things that they

1577
02:09:41,770 --> 02:09:42,750
want to force my value

1578
02:09:42,750 --> 02:09:47,550
and the paintings on my feet I choose for it.

1579
02:09:47,670 --> 02:09:50,750
And Cardley said this before many times.

1580
02:09:51,490 --> 02:09:54,090
Another thing about choice is,

1581
02:09:54,350 --> 02:09:57,290
a lot of people's choices are based in the environment

1582
02:09:57,290 --> 02:09:59,250
that they surround themselves in,

1583
02:09:59,410 --> 02:10:01,890
as well as the morality that they grew up in.

1584
02:10:02,310 --> 02:10:04,410
This is where my portion of me saying

1585
02:10:04,410 --> 02:10:05,810
on the man of faith comes in.

1586
02:10:07,050 --> 02:10:08,850
A lot of the arguments that I've heard

1587
02:10:08,850 --> 02:10:10,990
were based in Christian faith.

1588
02:10:10,990 --> 02:10:22,810
I heard one based in Jewish faith, but God has many names, just like an individual has many names, I have four of them myself.

1589
02:10:24,710 --> 02:10:32,450
I have a belief that many of the people, when they talk about a supreme being, are talking about the same person.

1590
02:10:32,450 --> 02:10:47,070
or saying entity that if you will, I am not going to deny someone who believes that the present life is more important than the future life, that choice.

1591
02:10:47,890 --> 02:10:55,570
If there are individuals out there that believe that the future life is more than the present life, they have that choice to believe it.

1592
02:10:55,570 --> 02:11:02,770
But I'm not going to condone other individuals that force everyone in America to believe that way.

1593
02:11:03,110 --> 02:11:10,570
Especially when we have multitudes of religions that encourage behavior in multiple different ways.

1594
02:11:11,990 --> 02:11:16,710
So, there's another actual political thing that's associated with this.

1595
02:11:16,710 --> 02:11:25,950
That's the 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment was about equality and this overturning of road

1596
02:11:25,950 --> 02:11:33,790
be weighed actually shifts against the 14th Amendment. And if this falls, I have to think as a

1597
02:11:33,790 --> 02:11:42,090
legislator what else could possibly fall. Could it be, you know, the choice of schools and who

1598
02:11:42,090 --> 02:11:45,130
They bring in based off of a particular attribute.

1599
02:11:46,250 --> 02:11:50,710
Could it be the marriage of two individuals based off

1600
02:11:50,710 --> 02:11:52,850
of another particular attribute?

1601
02:11:54,190 --> 02:12:00,850
Could it be compulsory behaviors based on

1602
02:12:00,850 --> 02:12:04,730
some other kinds of attributes like when you start allowing

1603
02:12:05,450 --> 02:12:09,530
small groups of individuals to dictate what large groups of individuals

1604
02:12:09,530 --> 02:12:14,290
do based off a particular narrow belief compared to the amount of people

1605
02:12:14,290 --> 02:12:19,830
that are in America. That is dangerous in my opinion and I can't condemn it. Even

1606
02:12:19,830 --> 02:12:28,410
though I prefer life I cannot prevent someone else from making a choice that might

1607
02:12:28,410 --> 02:12:33,690
not align with my beliefs. And that's why I believe in this particular

1608
02:12:33,690 --> 02:12:38,790
resolution. It's a resolution like I talked about resolutions in the past

1609
02:12:38,790 --> 02:12:46,930
where we hear on the days, believe that people should have bodily autonomy and that they should

1610
02:12:46,930 --> 02:12:51,270
choose present life over the future life versus the alternative.

1611
02:12:52,670 --> 02:12:58,690
So, that's why I believe that I'm going to focus on this particular resolution.

1612
02:13:00,830 --> 02:13:03,090
Thank you, everyone, who spoke.

1613
02:13:03,210 --> 02:13:06,370
Councillor Freds regrets that she's not able to be here today.

1614
02:13:06,370 --> 02:13:14,250
there was a loss in her family. She and I attended the reproductive rights town hall that happened

1615
02:13:14,250 --> 02:13:20,270
on campus on September 1st. And we tabled there. We had a table not as the city of Oxford

1616
02:13:20,270 --> 02:13:27,310
were representing ourselves as city counselors in our position on this. And we had a sign-up

1617
02:13:27,310 --> 02:13:34,930
left for individuals who were interested in supporting this resolution. But we know that there

1618
02:13:34,930 --> 02:13:42,810
of you today, and I thank you for coming, who were tabling women centers of Ohio, the students

1619
02:13:42,810 --> 02:13:48,030
for life, and we know that you signed the resolution, and I want you to recognize that

1620
02:13:48,030 --> 02:13:52,150
I sent the announcement about the resolution to all of you.

1621
02:13:52,650 --> 02:13:57,510
I knew that there would be opposition today, I invited you to come, because it's important

1622
02:13:57,510 --> 02:14:04,870
that we all be able to share our voices, and that's what the last section of the resolutions

1623
02:14:04,870 --> 02:14:08,870
He says, to make your voices heard to your local state and federal officials, you've done

1624
02:14:08,870 --> 02:14:09,570
that tonight.

1625
02:14:09,930 --> 02:14:13,650
And I want to thank you very much for having done that.

1626
02:14:14,230 --> 02:14:15,750
It's really difficult.

1627
02:14:16,610 --> 02:14:22,130
You know, no one chooses to run for local office or hire to make decisions that necessarily

1628
02:14:22,830 --> 02:14:23,610
please everybody.

1629
02:14:24,110 --> 02:14:27,910
I hear you when you say that we are representing all of you.

1630
02:14:28,410 --> 02:14:32,510
But with every decision that's made, some people will be pleased with the decision.

1631
02:14:32,510 --> 02:14:37,890
Some people will not be pleased with the decision, but that is our job.

1632
02:14:38,170 --> 02:14:41,570
I want to thank Council for all the comments that were said.

1633
02:14:41,570 --> 02:14:48,010
I know we haven't heard from our mayors yet, but some of you who signed up also signed up

1634
02:14:48,010 --> 02:14:52,630
to participate in something called Living Room Conversations, which are inner group dialogues

1635
02:14:52,630 --> 02:14:58,570
about topics, not to change anyone's mind, but to be in a room together and to listen

1636
02:14:58,570 --> 02:14:59,890
to each other and to show each other.

1637
02:15:01,520 --> 02:15:14,480
And we did that here tonight. And I think that's a real win for our community. And I agree with a lot of what was said from people who disagree with this resolution. I think we can do both.

1638
02:15:15,100 --> 02:15:26,980
I think we can allow people to have the right to choose while we create better synchidats, wrap around care, universal health care, free access to birth control.

1639
02:15:26,980 --> 02:15:32,560
But a lot of the countries that I named what I talked about maternal mortality have some

1640
02:15:32,560 --> 02:15:33,800
version of that in place.

1641
02:15:33,840 --> 02:15:39,200
And I think that contributes to the lower maternal mortality rate as well.

1642
02:15:40,340 --> 02:15:41,560
Thank you all for coming.

1643
02:15:42,240 --> 02:15:44,500
And I'm happy to speak to anyone after.

1644
02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:48,620
I always try to make myself available and I appreciate your time.

1645
02:15:50,280 --> 02:16:13,180
So first to end, I'm also so trained as a social scientist that I aired in saying half because, in fact, I didn't know that it would be exactly 50%, but it occurred to me that there would be a strong proportion of individuals here who are of one belief and those who would be of another.

1646
02:16:14,080 --> 02:16:17,820
So I apologize to my fellow social scientists.

1647
02:16:19,300 --> 02:16:29,400
One thing I have learned about being on council and trying to serve my community is that it is impossible to please everybody.

1648
02:16:30,340 --> 02:16:37,580
And if you have been at all aware of this meeting, you can see that that is impossible for us to do.

1649
02:16:37,580 --> 02:16:42,680
So that is not my intent, and I don't think that is Council's intent.

1650
02:16:43,760 --> 02:16:47,780
I think we have to look at what we think is the right thing to do.

1651
02:16:48,440 --> 02:16:57,300
As a parent of two children, I have to say that the two best decisions we ever made were having those two children.

1652
02:16:58,500 --> 02:17:01,620
We lived at 1304 days and a drive for many years.

1653
02:17:03,800 --> 02:17:06,660
Those are our best decisions,

1654
02:17:08,820 --> 02:17:14,320
personally, I can't even imagine the situation that I would

1655
02:17:14,320 --> 02:17:20,520
face where my wife and I would decide to choose abortion.

1656
02:17:20,820 --> 02:17:31,160
I can't imagine it because of people that I know, and people who have worked as up-to-true

1657
02:17:31,160 --> 02:17:44,740
of obstetricians and had to deal with those situations, very, very, very few people are in a situation when they have an abortion that they want one.

1658
02:17:45,640 --> 02:17:50,240
It is more often the case that they feel they have to for whatever reason.

1659
02:17:51,180 --> 02:18:01,380
Now, I'm old, old enough, that I remember when abortion was illegal, a far, row-by-way.

1660
02:18:02,920 --> 02:18:04,320
There were still abortions.

1661
02:18:05,420 --> 02:18:09,580
The only difference was that they were done in back alleys and with hangers and with other

1662
02:18:09,580 --> 02:18:14,840
implements and a lot of women died as a result of trying to have control over their

1663
02:18:14,840 --> 02:18:24,120
bodies. For me, it comes down to this. I don't think it's really so much about the debate

1664
02:18:24,120 --> 02:18:28,780
of when life starts. I think it is what is the role of government.

1665
02:18:31,420 --> 02:18:32,540
I don't see government

1666
02:18:32,540 --> 02:18:41,560
telling you, I don't see government telling men. You have a healthy kidney and if you don't

1667
02:18:41,560 --> 02:18:46,520
give that kidney. We're going to force you to give that kidney so that this other person lives.

1668
02:18:48,080 --> 02:18:53,940
We don't do that. But we'll tell women what they have to do. But I don't think that's

1669
02:18:53,940 --> 02:19:01,580
government's role to tell people what they have to do with their own body. So that's my

1670
02:19:01,580 --> 02:19:10,000
perspective on it. I hate abortion. I don't like it. I wish it were never necessary. And

1671
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:15,000
And I think there's pain every single time, there's pain.

1672
02:19:15,560 --> 02:19:25,360
One way, it's emotional pain that you feel before, during, after, and it's everybody involved.

1673
02:19:26,360 --> 02:19:28,500
I've got to carry that way, you've got to carry the weight.

1674
02:19:30,020 --> 02:19:35,080
So with all that said, I would like to move to a vote if that's okay.

1675
02:19:35,740 --> 02:19:39,840
All those in favor of their resolution indicate by saying aye.

1676
02:19:39,840 --> 02:19:40,260
Aye.

1677
02:19:40,720 --> 02:19:40,940
Aye.

1678
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:43,120
Resolution is adopted.

1679
02:19:43,580 --> 02:19:43,820
Thank you.

1680
02:19:43,940 --> 02:19:44,960
Everyone for coming in.

1681
02:19:45,040 --> 02:19:46,080
I know you're not all happy.

1682
02:19:48,680 --> 02:19:49,200
That's.

1683
02:19:49,200 --> 02:19:49,620
That's.

1684
02:19:49,900 --> 02:19:50,520
What happens.

1685
02:19:51,260 --> 02:19:52,880
With anything we do, I think.

1686
02:19:53,180 --> 02:19:53,780
We'll go to.

1687
02:19:53,880 --> 02:19:54,860
We have no first reading.

1688
02:19:55,060 --> 02:19:56,360
Yes, there's more government to do.

1689
02:19:56,580 --> 02:19:56,980
There is.

1690
02:19:57,740 --> 02:19:59,340
So we'll go to the second reading.

1691
02:20:01,140 --> 02:20:05,820
And ordinance granting our class of Gerald and Linda single dime to connect to

1692
02:20:05,820 --> 02:20:12,500
and existing city water main for a single family residence located on a 1.5 acre parcel

1693
02:20:12,500 --> 02:20:16,000
on Trenton Oxford Road outside Oxford Corporate Limits.

1694
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:21,580
So it's been moved and staccated Michael to do something new or different?

1695
02:20:21,980 --> 02:20:22,280
Nothing new.

1696
02:20:22,600 --> 02:20:22,740
Okay.

1697
02:20:22,960 --> 02:20:32,820
So anyone from the public who would like to address this ordinance, hearing none, council, hearing none,

1698
02:20:33,140 --> 02:20:34,080
please call the roll.

1699
02:20:34,480 --> 02:20:34,940
Mr. Brighton.

1700
02:20:34,940 --> 02:20:40,400
Mr. Ellerby? Yes. Mr. Franklin? Yes. Mr. Prattards? Yes.

1701
02:20:41,160 --> 02:20:41,940
Mr. Raghu? Yes.

1702
02:20:42,520 --> 02:20:43,500
Mr. Stanley? Yes.

1703
02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:44,860
Ordnance is adopted.

1704
02:20:46,020 --> 02:20:47,880
You may read the second ordnance please.

1705
02:20:48,720 --> 02:20:52,020
An ordnance amending ordnance number 3654.

1706
02:20:52,740 --> 02:20:54,820
Supplemental budget ordnance number 7.

1707
02:20:55,160 --> 02:20:58,640
To make supplemental appropriations for fiscal year 2020.

1708
02:21:00,260 --> 02:21:01,640
Is there a motion?

1709
02:21:02,500 --> 02:21:03,140
Second.

1710
02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:05,640
It's been moved in seconded.

1711
02:21:06,520 --> 02:21:07,940
Joe is there anything to indifferent?

1712
02:21:08,340 --> 02:21:12,160
Yes, there's two items that came up since the last reading.

1713
02:21:12,960 --> 02:21:18,820
First is additional appropriation for income tax refunds.

1714
02:21:19,780 --> 02:21:22,180
And I put that at $200,000.

1715
02:21:22,780 --> 02:21:30,360
Because last month we got hit with 50,000 for people, for withholding, so people are starting to

1716
02:21:31,320 --> 02:21:33,680
file with the state to try to get their money back.

1717
02:21:34,320 --> 02:21:38,800
And I imagine, unfortunately, the closer we get the Christmas, he's going to be more

1718
02:21:38,800 --> 02:21:39,340
out

1719
02:21:41,620 --> 02:21:42,980
in the end of the year.

1720
02:21:43,280 --> 02:21:50,700
And the next item has to do with that budgeted, an increase in budget of revenue for reimbursements

1721
02:21:50,700 --> 02:22:01,980
And then the subsequent expenditures and the employee benefit fund, so far we're 237,000 803,

1722
02:22:02,020 --> 02:22:08,600
26 over what we had budgeted for refunds for a year, so this is just showing the money coming in,

1723
02:22:08,680 --> 02:22:09,840
and money going out.

1724
02:22:10,000 --> 02:22:10,900
You're back.

1725
02:22:11,960 --> 02:22:13,360
I'm glad you answer any questions.

1726
02:22:13,420 --> 02:22:14,180
Thank you very much.

1727
02:22:14,300 --> 02:22:17,200
Is there anyone from the public who wants to address this ordinance?

1728
02:22:19,600 --> 02:22:21,440
any questions or concerns?

1729
02:22:22,260 --> 02:22:23,280
We may call the roll.

1730
02:22:23,580 --> 02:22:25,460
Mr. Allerby, Mr. Franklin?

1731
02:22:26,520 --> 02:22:27,040
Mr. Pratird?

1732
02:22:27,260 --> 02:22:27,460
Yes.

1733
02:22:28,040 --> 02:22:28,620
Mr. Pratird?

1734
02:22:28,780 --> 02:22:28,800
Yes.

1735
02:22:29,460 --> 02:22:30,000
Mr. Pratird?

1736
02:22:30,000 --> 02:22:30,140
Mr. Pratird?

1737
02:22:30,980 --> 02:22:31,080
Yes.

1738
02:22:31,080 --> 02:22:31,440
Mayor Sainley?

1739
02:22:32,400 --> 02:22:32,960
Thank you.

1740
02:22:33,120 --> 02:22:33,940
Ordnance is adopted.

1741
02:22:34,280 --> 02:22:34,780
Thank you, Joe.

1742
02:22:35,660 --> 02:22:38,040
We'll move now to announce some communications.

1743
02:22:38,800 --> 02:22:43,320
I will note for the record that our city manager in assistant city manager are not here

1744
02:22:43,320 --> 02:22:47,140
because they are at the ICMA conference representing the city.

1745
02:22:48,480 --> 02:22:53,540
And Mike drives back, has graciously agreed to be here

1746
02:22:53,540 --> 02:22:55,800
in their stead, as well start with the event.

1747
02:22:56,440 --> 02:22:57,400
I would please to serve.

1748
02:22:57,660 --> 02:22:58,060
Thank you.

1749
02:22:59,380 --> 02:23:01,660
Just a couple of quick update items.

1750
02:23:02,500 --> 02:23:04,560
The North Book is sidewalked to Cramer Elementary.

1751
02:23:05,080 --> 02:23:06,560
It's a very complexion.

1752
02:23:06,740 --> 02:23:10,580
We have a few of you who can frontier to move

1753
02:23:10,580 --> 02:23:13,200
if you guys want to see what's going on.

1754
02:23:13,280 --> 02:23:15,980
Thank you for putting the tape on the backlighter.

1755
02:23:16,160 --> 02:23:18,140
Not to make excuses for due.

1756
02:23:18,600 --> 02:23:20,780
They've dispatched many, many crews

1757
02:23:20,780 --> 02:23:25,000
to be circumcorded for the flood damages there.

1758
02:23:26,420 --> 02:23:28,780
RFU's are not our main concerns.

1759
02:23:29,680 --> 02:23:32,600
So we're aware that we'll work it out and get that thing done.

1760
02:23:33,700 --> 02:23:38,160
We are currently bidding the extension of Walnut Street

1761
02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:39,860
and the parking lot of college at home.

1762
02:23:39,860 --> 02:23:59,460
So we'll be waiting for a lot of approval to proceed with that and we'll have a contract for you to review in the next meeting or two, and we're also very close to bidding Oats phases three and four and the connector to the community work.

1763
02:23:59,460 --> 02:24:07,400
So we're waiting on a note up to prove our final traceings when they give us the OK, we will bid those.

1764
02:24:08,440 --> 02:24:09,180
That's all I have tonight.

1765
02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:10,020
Thank you.

1766
02:24:10,100 --> 02:24:10,840
Thank you very much.

1767
02:24:11,080 --> 02:24:11,460
Chief Judge.

1768
02:24:13,240 --> 02:24:14,120
Thank you.

1769
02:24:14,580 --> 02:24:14,800
Chief.

1770
02:24:17,060 --> 02:24:18,620
I don't see KC here, Sam.

1771
02:24:21,410 --> 02:24:22,790
Thank you just a couple of quick ones.

1772
02:24:23,450 --> 02:24:27,630
In the area of comprehensive planning and affordable housing planning, those types of things.

1773
02:24:27,630 --> 02:24:32,150
Comprehensive plan. We don't have a date yet for the public open house. We're looking at mid-November

1774
02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:41,790
But once we get that we'll be doing some heavy advertisement. There's some suggestions in there that regarding zoning code reform and building height that will be of interest. I'm sure to the community

1775
02:24:43,190 --> 02:24:49,090
The RFQ for the request for qualifications for a non-profit housing partner

1776
02:24:49,090 --> 02:24:49,830
that

1777
02:24:49,830 --> 02:24:51,250
Perable and

1778
02:24:51,250 --> 02:24:56,710
This week and hopefully we'll have some responses next week to review and a subcommittee that has an advisory commission

1779
02:24:56,710 --> 02:25:02,830
and Western Null's design plan will be going out that hasn't gone out yet for

1780
02:25:03,270 --> 02:25:06,690
advertising but that will be as well to see someone in the area before

1781
02:25:06,690 --> 02:25:08,690
housing design. Thanks.

1782
02:25:08,970 --> 02:25:10,510
Thank you very much.

1783
02:25:11,030 --> 02:25:12,710
Nothing. Thank you.

1784
02:25:13,390 --> 02:25:13,610
Nothing.

1785
02:25:13,930 --> 02:25:14,570
Thank you.

1786
02:25:14,570 --> 02:25:15,530
Thank you.

1787
02:25:15,770 --> 02:25:16,330
I said enough.

1788
02:25:19,760 --> 02:25:20,160
Aster.

1789
02:25:20,640 --> 02:25:21,140
Teaser.

1790
02:25:21,440 --> 02:25:21,900
Not aster.

1791
02:25:22,380 --> 02:25:24,100
Of what I'm going to email you about.

1792
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:26,720
I was, I don't want to go in here now.

1793
02:25:26,720 --> 02:25:32,440
at a conference in Denver, not too long ago for local elected officials, and I was fortunate

1794
02:25:32,440 --> 02:25:39,780
to tour their initiative for this mobile shelter. I don't know if you've heard of it,

1795
02:25:39,900 --> 02:25:45,980
but it came about during COVID because homelessness was so bad, they needed shelter right

1796
02:25:45,980 --> 02:25:51,540
that they didn't have time to build buildings. And it was really a beautiful thing because the

1797
02:25:51,540 --> 02:25:57,340
and guiding it was on the city council but then the other person was someone who lived in those

1798
02:25:57,340 --> 02:26:03,140
tents and then now has permanent housing and now it's an employee. So it comes with wraparound

1799
02:26:03,140 --> 02:26:11,400
services, they have security there and they basically signed six month leases at different places

1800
02:26:11,400 --> 02:26:16,960
so that no one neighbor who has to feel like why am I getting burden and put that you know and

1801
02:26:16,960 --> 02:26:19,680
If it's a problem, they can move on to a different area.

1802
02:26:20,480 --> 02:26:32,220
So, and the beautiful thing about it is that whenever we look at the cost of how much it might be to have say something like a tiny home, it'd be $25,000 per unit.

1803
02:26:32,920 --> 02:26:36,760
And in that situation, we'll come to a controversy that we have before where people say,

1804
02:26:36,760 --> 02:26:38,740
I don't know why am I getting my neighborhood.

1805
02:26:39,460 --> 02:26:43,920
It costed $400 in Denver for each test.

1806
02:26:44,320 --> 02:26:47,240
And this was something that was year-round,

1807
02:26:47,240 --> 02:26:49,640
a day matter with season, their ice fishing tents,

1808
02:26:49,860 --> 02:26:51,260
they had heating and cooling.

1809
02:26:51,780 --> 02:26:53,220
This beautiful, you could have your dog

1810
02:26:53,220 --> 02:26:54,720
and see it on the leave, your dogs.

1811
02:26:55,580 --> 02:26:58,880
They had social workers who were there 24 hours a day.

1812
02:26:59,220 --> 02:27:01,120
It is such a beautiful system

1813
02:27:01,120 --> 02:27:04,420
that gave these people autonomy to come and go.

1814
02:27:04,420 --> 02:27:10,140
So I'm really excited to explore, could this be something that we could have here that

1815
02:27:10,700 --> 02:27:17,420
is financially feasible, first of all, and second of all, does not burn in any one neighborhood,

1816
02:27:17,820 --> 02:27:22,900
and no one has to feel like they're getting punished, and if it causes a problem, could it disappears?

1817
02:27:23,760 --> 02:27:27,220
So I'm really excited to explore that going forward.

1818
02:27:27,540 --> 02:27:28,140
Thank you.

1819
02:27:28,140 --> 02:27:40,840
Yes, I just wanted to add, you know, one of the strengths of the, in terms of messaging of the anti-abortion movement was the slogan choose life, right?

1820
02:27:41,900 --> 02:27:44,100
But in it was the word choose.

1821
02:27:45,900 --> 02:27:51,140
And what I'm recognizing is that as choice becomes undermined.

1822
02:27:51,560 --> 02:27:55,300
And as women, people who are pregnant have no longer have the right to choose,

1823
02:27:56,260 --> 02:28:00,560
One of the strengths of the messaging is actually also being undermined.

1824
02:28:01,700 --> 02:28:03,280
I think choice is important.

1825
02:28:06,830 --> 02:28:11,850
I'd just like to add that I also support sustained efforts towards housing, poor housing and

1826
02:28:11,850 --> 02:28:13,650
addressing homelessness and other basic needs.

1827
02:28:14,110 --> 02:28:18,450
It's my chief priority since I've been on council and I'd like to put you into that.

1828
02:28:18,610 --> 02:28:24,390
I appreciate all the help and citizens and organizations reporting towards one acting on your own,

1829
02:28:24,590 --> 02:28:26,850
but also moving the city in the right direction.

1830
02:28:27,730 --> 02:28:30,510
All right, it's late, but I'll do this in 15 seconds.

1831
02:28:32,190 --> 02:28:37,310
You may know that our Amtrak platform grant application is right, so highly that it's almost

1832
02:28:37,310 --> 02:28:41,530
inevitable that it will get approved, which is $2 million from grant values.

1833
02:28:42,390 --> 02:28:48,970
Thanks to, and what that means is in 26 or 27, a train is going to stop at a platform, and

1834
02:28:48,970 --> 02:28:50,510
you will be able to ride it from Oxford.

1835
02:28:51,130 --> 02:28:55,650
The more all the story is, it takes a long time to do planning, we've been talking about

1836
02:28:55,650 --> 02:28:59,530
for a decade, really, but it also takes an investment.

1837
02:28:59,730 --> 02:29:02,570
It takes an investment in planning, it takes an investment in design,

1838
02:29:02,750 --> 02:29:04,730
but that can yield then big dollars.

1839
02:29:05,150 --> 02:29:07,350
So as we contemplate some of these other big things we do,

1840
02:29:07,710 --> 02:29:10,590
we have to do the upfront investment to see the long term return,

1841
02:29:10,930 --> 02:29:14,750
but the way we've been pulling down grant dollars from major infrastructure projects,

1842
02:29:15,490 --> 02:29:17,070
the model we're working on is really working.

1843
02:29:17,950 --> 02:29:19,050
So it's not a thank you.

1844
02:29:19,850 --> 02:29:20,170
Okay.

1845
02:29:21,190 --> 02:29:22,250
I have no comments.

1846
02:29:23,570 --> 02:29:27,950
It is late enough and I would entertain a motion to adjourn.

1847
02:29:28,790 --> 02:29:29,170
Second.

1848
02:29:29,650 --> 02:29:31,090
All those in favor say aye.

1849
02:29:31,110 --> 02:29:31,710
Aye.

1850
02:29:32,010 --> 02:29:34,630
The record show is adjourned.

1851
02:29:34,890 --> 02:29:35,350
Just out there.