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>>mayor jan harnik: I will now

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reconvene the city council

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successor agency meeting of

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thursday january 13, 2022.

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can we have roll call, please.

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>>clerk:

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>>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

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present

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>>council member kathleen

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kelly: here

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>>council member gina nestande:

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here

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>>council member karina

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quintanilla: present

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>>mayor jan harnik: here.

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all present.

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thank you so much.

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>> we'll have the pledge of

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allegiance by staff.

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>>council member gina nestande:

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thank you.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the

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flag of the united states of

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america and to the republic for

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which it stands, one nation,

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under god, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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>> thank you so much.

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we'll now have a little

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inspiration. I thought I would

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do a little refresher for us. I

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think everybody knows it but

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it's our mission statement and

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our palm desert community

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statement which is a great

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product from a wide -- the

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mission statement says the city

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of palm desert provides

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amenities and programs for the

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community. Our vision

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statement, palm desert is the

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heart of california's coachella

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valley. Palm desert's quality

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of life offers -- residents and

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visitors of all ages a wide

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array of educational and

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opportunities as well as arts

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and cultural activities and

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world class events in a

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uniquely and beautiful desert

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environment. This is a thriving

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safe and sustainable community

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that attracts innovative

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employers and synergistic

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educational partners.

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we rocked that in 2014 and it's

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still good.

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do we have a report from closed

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session?

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>> yes, we do. With respect to

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the agenda on the first item a

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1 on family development, no

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action was taken.

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no reportable action nor

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direction was given.

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on the second item, with

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respect to the refuge that

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council unanimously authorized

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the purchase and sale agreement

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for the property described on

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the agenda and that agreement

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will be available to the public

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once it is finalized.

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that's all. We have. Thank

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you very much.

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>> thank you so much.

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>> we'll go mayor and council

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member reports and request for

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action. You can do them at

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once.

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so may I start please with

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council member kelly.

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>>council member kathleen kelly:

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thank you.

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I have nothing this evening for

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the general --

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hard to believe but okay.

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council member nestande?

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>>council member gina nestande:

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mayor, thank you.

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I have nothing this evening to

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share as well. I appreciate

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your asking.

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council member quintanilla?

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>>council member karina

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quintanilla: thank you mayor.

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I luckily have plenty of things

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to say so I will fill up that

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time.

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the mccallam education meeting.

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that was wonderful in hearing

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how many children have access

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to arts and social learning.

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they were able to reach 4500

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students and 165 classrooms and

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hearing the testimonials of

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teachers in the classroom was

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very rewarding.

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they

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have called to do. That is

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going on the 14. You can apply

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by january 19th. Art and public

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places will now be cultural

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arts committee. We were looking

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at the budget. And did convey

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to them where we stand with the

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discussion of the first

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committee. I want to report

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that we did have the

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resignation of a long standing

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member. And my deepest

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gratitude. She was on several

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commissions. I know she will be

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missed. If you are watching, I

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send lots of love and you will

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be missed.

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I have a request. At san pablo,

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when I go and visit and

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sometimes chat with the

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different merchants, I have

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seen that we need some sort of

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blinking light for pedestrians

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to cross from one end to the

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other. I have seen cars have a

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difficult time making a left

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turn. So I have seen drivers

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make a u-turn. So looking at

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the safety fact of that

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particular intersection of san

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I also want to have a request

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of staff to see if we can look

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at where the $25 million

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that is allocated for community

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resilience designated for

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agreement heat if we can

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capture those for palm desert

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given that we get some extreme

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heat. With that, I will pass

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that on, mayor.

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>>mayor jan harnik: thank you.

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I think we all owe gratitude to

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-- she's given a lot over the

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years.

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>>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

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thank you, mayor.

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to my colleagues, I also made

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meetings and the desert willow

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management -- that took place

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earlier this week as many of

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us recall. We contract with

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sports for the management with

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desert willow. The 5-year term

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is up soon and the city put up

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the contract for request for

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proposal. And the city

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conducted interviews earlier

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this week and the process is

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moving forward.

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I have no request for action.

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I have a couple of comments I

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would like to make.

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first, I don't know if anybody

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else noticed but we have a

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tremendous up tick in graffiti

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throughout our city, and I

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think our public works

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department does a great job at

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immediately getting the

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graffiti abate mentment team

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out there but it is a

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significant increase. Please

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watch for that. And we do have

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the palm desert app that you

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can all have on your phone. The

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team will get out there and

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eradicate graffiti. We need to

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make that happen. So please

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paying attention to that and

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please help to be sure our city

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remains clean like it should be.

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the other thing I'm going to

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remind everybody is

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international holocaust

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remembrance day is thursday the

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27.

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at 1:00.

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there will be a remembrance

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ceremony in our civic center

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park here in palm desert.

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and it's an important occasion

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and something we need to all

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think about.

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also, january 17th.

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martin luther king jr. So there

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is another day that is worth

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sitting and thinking about what

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it takes to be who we are as a

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nation.

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I also wanted to mention that

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at our lasts meeting which was

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december 16th, our then mayor

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kelly requested that we have a

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discussion on this agenda

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regarding the districting

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issue. I don't mean the census

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districting.

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but if we should put something

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on the ballot. Unfortunately

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with the planned vacations and

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covid surge, we didn't have

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enough time to go about that in

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a proper way. It will be on the

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agenda january 27th. I want to

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be sure for those who want to

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weigh in that we'll have that

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opportunity on january 27th. It

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will be on the agenda.

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so I apologize to council

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member kelly, who I know it was

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important to you, but between

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covid and the holidays, that's

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what happened. So we will get

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that back right on back on the

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I hope everybody had meaningful

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holidays and let's make 2022

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healthy and happy and dynamic.

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so now we'll go to non-agenda

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public comments.

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first I would like to give our

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clerk an opportunity to talk

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about how to participate.

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>>clerk: thank you. If you

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would like to participate in

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public comment, please raise

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your hand to speak.

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when you are called upon, press

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star 6 to unmute your line.

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please state your comments and

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state your name for the record.

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>>mayor jan harnik: I want to

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note this is an opportunity to

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address issues that are not on

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the agenda. If anybody would

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like to speak at this time.

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I do see a hand raised. I also

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want to make note that the

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brown act does not allow any of

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the bodies that are meeting

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today to respond to comments

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that are not on the agenda, but

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we will refer the matter to

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staff or record a

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recommendation.

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so our first speaker. We have

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joanne speer. Would you like to

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>>clerk: joanne speer, you have

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public speaker: okay, thank

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you for taking my comments.

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and I'm wondering why we are

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spending so much time on

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redistricting for two districts

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when going to a five district

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5th district system now

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provides local and fair

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representation for all parts of

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palm desert. And I do

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acknowledge that this is being

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put on the agenda for the next

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meeting. Thank you very much.

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>> thank you.

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is there anyone else? I see

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luis --

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public speaker: being this is

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your first public hearing and 2

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weeks from tonight is the

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second public hearing and we'll

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have our chance to review --

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and the third public hearing,

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the final draft map published

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on the 17, and we have the

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third.

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and fourth public hearing for

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the final map to approve that

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final map and the deadline for

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the final approval is april

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17th and we go to november

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election.

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that concludes my presentation.

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it's fairly straight forward.

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it is dictated by state law.

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there was the question about

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this and so I'm happy to answer

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any questions about this

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process. I would love to take

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the input of both public and

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the council in this mapping

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process. Thank you very much

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for your time.

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>> thank you so much.

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okay. We'll have questions now.

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the first question is council

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member quintanilla.

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>> thank you, mayor.

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thank you for the presentation.

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I have questions in regards to

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the mapping software. Are there

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plans to do maybe a tutorial in

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advance. The last time it was

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not an easy process and I'm

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wondering if you can either

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share this, if it's optimized

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for the other systems and if

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the map is available. If we can

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get that answer.

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and my second question would be

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what is the proper for the

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paper maps because some prefer

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drawing their paper maps. Is

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that all -- also something that

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will be provided at the other

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meeting?

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>> yes. Thank you for the

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question. I have been involved

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in districting process and

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without software it can be very

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difficult to submit draft maps.

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so our mapping tool is very

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intuitive. There will be

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instructions given.

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as far as the tutorial goes, I

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will have to refer to the clerk

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for that, but having used it,

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it's very intuitive. I believe

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it's available both on a

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desktop or laptop as well as

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mobile. I will have to come

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back to confirm that forks. As

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far as paper maps, I will put

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that question to the clerk.

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>> the question was that some

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may not have access to that. Is

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there a possibility that we can

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have some of the presentations

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held at a school and available

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to residents. Thank you.

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>> from a legal perspective,

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there is nothing that holds the

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city from making any number of

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workshops at any location in

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the city.

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>> thank you.

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>> thank you.

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>> council member kelly?

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>> it looks like ms. Harnik has

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some information to share which

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is not why I raised my hand,

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but --

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>> yeah, that's correct.

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there was a couple of questions

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in there. I do want to note

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that the first work we'll go

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over the mapping tool and how

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to use that. That is one of the

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things that is going to be

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discussed there as

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demonstrating how to use that.

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it is available on a website.

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so I have that information

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there. I don't have the rest of

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the answers.

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>> all right. Thank you very

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much.

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>>council member kathleen

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kelly: thank you. I'm glad you

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moved back to this slide

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because that is what I wanted

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to talk about.

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this slide issays that at our

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next council meeting, we will

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review and consider tract maps

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and the written staff report as

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they schedule which says next

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to january 27th, held prior to

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the release of tract map.

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so I'm confused about what we

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will or will not have tract

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maps at next council meeting

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>> if I can again ask the

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clerk, I know that -- if our

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process is to review tract maps

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at the second public hearing,

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but I want to make sure I'm in

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line with staff's plan for this

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meeting. I will also ask the

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clerk to chime in there.

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>> the written staff report you

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have is consistent with the

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first timeline that was

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presented at city council.

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is that what we are to assume

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is the accurate timeline?

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>> you know, frankly --

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>> so we know that the public

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knows what to expect when. So

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what is accomplished and

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clarity. My way of thinking,

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this is for a second

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introductory session. So if we

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do the tract map, but as I

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said, we need to figure out how

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to make sure that our

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communications are clear.

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>> our intent and our practice

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is to have the draft maps

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available for review at the

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second public hearing.

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and that is the plan is to have

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it a draft map at the second

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public hearing.

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the public has the ability to

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submit draft maps all the way

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up to the third public hearing.

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there is a longer window to put

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together their draft maps to

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consider. But you will have a

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draft map that complies with

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all of the requirements, the

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settlement agreements and with

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the input we receive tonight

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and the intent there is to give

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both the council and the public

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enough time to mole over that

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draft map and make any tweaks

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with their own submitted draft

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maps to kind of again have more

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time for that part of the

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process as it really is the

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most important part of this

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process.

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>> thank you. That was clear.

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we just might need to scrub

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what is out -- to be sure it's

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consistent.

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>> thank you. Good catch.

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council member nestande?

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>>council member gina nestande:

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thank you, mayor.

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mr. Richardson, I just wanted

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to say our city of palm desert

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is 50,000 population, and doing

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like a redistricting of a big

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city like los angeles, almost

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seems to be an easier job to

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do. As palm desert, can we

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redraw these maps as some sort

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of priority. Should they be

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looking at the homes that are

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unique in golf courses, that

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are gated. We have 55 plus, we

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have 55 plus in manufactured

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home communities. So we are

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somewhat unique in a lot of

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work that you are doing in

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redistricting.

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so, it just seems so wrong and

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I would hope that we can give

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the public some more fine

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tuning tools to more prioritize

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this as they draw these maps.

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I'm not sure if you are aware

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of this or not, but the city of

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palm desert, north frank

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sinatra drive, is in the desert

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sanders school district. That

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is one that pops in my mind for

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community of interest. Thank

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you. Those of my comments.

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>> if I can respond briefly to

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that. I think you've nailed the

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primary issue on the head when

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it comes to redistricting.

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actually while we certainly

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have worked with bigger

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jurisdictions, most of our

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clients are small to mid-size

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cities just like palm desert. I

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serve the city attorney as well

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and just like palm desert in

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terms of being served by

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multiple school districts,

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having hoa's. Those are pretty

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distinct areas in the city.

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that is exactly what we want to

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look at.

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unfortunately the fair maps act

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which is the law that informs

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what we do isn't that specific

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with the criteria. So we know

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that the districts have to be

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geographically contiguous. It

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can't look like an octopus with

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tentacles.

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we know they have to be

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compact, right. But the bulk of

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our work is going to be exactly

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like you articulated. 55 plus

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communities that are clustered

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together and gated communities

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and hoa's and breaking up those

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types of communities up

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probably isn't consistent with

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the fair maps act.

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so the communities job and the

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council's job is to articulate

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where those boundaries are,

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what those communities are that

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you don't want to break up as

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you redraw the lines between

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these two districts.

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that school district line -- if

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there is specificity what you

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just articulated is exactly the

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rule that we want to be looking

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at. Do you have specific and

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distinct communities that

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shouldn't be separated.

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that's what the fair maps act

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wants us to look at when we are

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separating those into

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boundaries. Sometimes we have

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to separate them, but often you

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can keep them together because

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they should be together. I hope

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that answers the question.

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>> thank you, mr. Richardson.

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>> I think it would be helpful.

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although I'm not sure if it's

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going to help. That should be

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at the next meeting for sure.

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>> council member quintanilla?

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>>council member karina

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quintanilla: thank you, mayor.

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from the school district, there

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is no possible way that it

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could be now away from the

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north district issue. Unless

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mr. Richardson, I'm mistaken

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but with we do get to the

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boundary districts to keep that

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in mind. Thank you.

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>> are there any other

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questions? Then we'll open

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the public hearing and ask if

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there are any comments anyone

575
00:50:06,334 --> 00:50:09,934
would like to make? I don't

576
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,400
see any.

577
00:50:14,834 --> 00:50:17,267
I wonder if our clerk see's

578
00:50:17,267 --> 00:50:18,467
any?

579
00:50:18,467 --> 00:50:19,701
>> I'm not aware of any.

580
00:50:19,701 --> 00:50:22,701
>> I don't see any either.

581
00:50:24,567 --> 00:50:25,767
okay.

582
00:50:25,767 --> 00:50:29,367
then I will close the public

583
00:50:29,434 --> 00:50:33,340
hearing and we will have any

584
00:50:48,767 --> 00:50:51,767
discussion needed at this time

585
00:51:02,234 --> 00:51:03,434
from council? No?

586
00:51:03,434 --> 00:51:07,634
>> I do have the request or the

587
00:51:13,167 --> 00:51:16,801
desire so when we have some of

588
00:51:16,801 --> 00:51:19,201
these sections that the

589
00:51:19,234 --> 00:51:22,234
location is identified to give

590
00:51:22,868 --> 00:51:25,268
residents access to use

591
00:51:28,968 --> 00:51:31,400
computers so we are not worried

592
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,601
about whether or not the access

593
00:51:32,601 --> 00:51:35,330
they have in their home is

594
00:51:35,330 --> 00:51:37,433
equitable for them to

595
00:51:37,467 --> 00:51:39,867
participate. This is democracy

596
00:51:39,901 --> 00:51:42,334
after all. I hope the city will

597
00:51:42,334 --> 00:51:45,901
keep that in mind and create

598
00:51:45,901 --> 00:51:48,301
some of these opportunities

599
00:51:49,534 --> 00:51:51,968
either the middle school or

600
00:51:51,968 --> 00:51:55,568
high school, a place that is

601
00:51:56,834 --> 00:51:59,267
centrally located, if not the

602
00:51:59,267 --> 00:52:01,267
library. Thank you.

603
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,200
>> I see ms. Horning taking

604
00:52:15,133 --> 00:52:17,133
notes.

605
00:52:33,367 --> 00:52:34,567
I will entertain a motion at

606
00:52:34,567 --> 00:52:35,801
this time.

607
00:52:35,801 --> 00:52:38,201
>> one more comment. Basically

608
00:52:40,634 --> 00:52:44,234
as we'll draft the first map

609
00:52:50,367 --> 00:52:52,801
and that is similar and we have

610
00:52:52,801 --> 00:52:55,801
to add the population to

611
00:52:56,367 --> 00:52:58,801
district 1. The one thing to

612
00:52:58,801 --> 00:53:02,401
understand is at the lower end

613
00:53:07,367 --> 00:53:09,801
of the range and the middle end

614
00:53:09,801 --> 00:53:12,201
and the high end.

615
00:53:14,667 --> 00:53:15,868
>> thank you.

616
00:53:15,868 --> 00:53:18,868
I see a hand up.

617
00:53:19,534 --> 00:53:22,534
council member kelly, do you

618
00:53:23,167 --> 00:53:25,167
have a comment?

619
00:53:28,330 --> 00:53:29,234
>>council member kathleen

620
00:53:29,234 --> 00:53:32,234
kelly: yeah. The key objective

621
00:53:36,534 --> 00:53:40,134
should not be a set number.

622
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,634
that would make it easy for

623
00:53:42,634 --> 00:53:45,634
you, but that's not really

624
00:53:47,467 --> 00:53:49,467
helpful.

625
00:53:51,133 --> 00:53:55,333
what I said in december, I will

626
00:53:59,634 --> 00:54:02,634
say again. This is established

627
00:54:04,567 --> 00:54:08,767
to come as close as possible to

628
00:54:17,834 --> 00:54:20,267
the district in palm desert. So

629
00:54:20,267 --> 00:54:23,867
the priority is to receive that

630
00:54:27,567 --> 00:54:31,167
identity. And might come at the

631
00:54:33,634 --> 00:54:37,834
low range and might come at the

632
00:54:43,367 --> 00:54:45,767
high end of range.

633
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:54,300
>> council member quintanilla?

634
00:54:54,300 --> 00:54:55,534
>>council member karina

635
00:54:55,534 --> 00:54:56,734
quintanilla: I echo the

636
00:54:56,734 --> 00:54:59,734
sentiment that there is no

637
00:55:02,868 --> 00:55:05,300
magic number that should be our

638
00:55:05,300 --> 00:55:07,734
goal. I appreciate that you

639
00:55:07,734 --> 00:55:10,167
want some guidance and aiming

640
00:55:10,167 --> 00:55:13,834
for the middle would be a good

641
00:55:13,834 --> 00:55:16,834
guidance but because we can't

642
00:55:18,667 --> 00:55:22,267
say fix -- I think the

643
00:55:24,667 --> 00:55:27,670
importance of keeping the

644
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:28,334
contiguous boundaries and

645
00:55:28,334 --> 00:55:29,534
communities of interest is only

646
00:55:29,534 --> 00:55:32,534
the priority and what makes

647
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,000
sense for the community. When I

648
00:55:44,133 --> 00:55:47,133
was canvassing, I was in

649
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:57,467
monterey and residents didn't

650
00:55:58,701 --> 00:56:01,101
know what was here.

651
00:56:03,634 --> 00:56:06,670
so I echo the previous mayor,

652
00:56:06,670 --> 00:56:07,267
council member and somewhere in

653
00:56:07,267 --> 00:56:10,867
the middle but that we can't

654
00:56:10,934 --> 00:56:13,367
necessarily give a number to

655
00:56:13,367 --> 00:56:15,801
start. I know that's not as

656
00:56:15,801 --> 00:56:18,801
helpful and you came for

657
00:56:19,434 --> 00:56:22,434
direction but I think somewhere

658
00:56:27,934 --> 00:56:29,167
in the middle, but we can't

659
00:56:29,167 --> 00:56:31,567
give an exact number.

660
00:56:31,601 --> 00:56:32,801
>> I think I heard the

661
00:56:32,801 --> 00:56:35,801
direction loud and clear. It's

662
00:56:38,801 --> 00:56:40,000
very very clear.

663
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,000
>>>

664
00:56:42,434 --> 00:56:44,868
>>mayor jan harnik: are there

665
00:56:44,868 --> 00:56:46,100
any other questions or

666
00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:48,500
additional direction that might

667
00:56:48,534 --> 00:56:50,934
be helpful, mr. Richardson?

668
00:56:52,167 --> 00:56:53,400
>> I think I'm good. Thank you

669
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,400
very much for your time.

670
00:57:03,167 --> 00:57:05,601
and your input. I look forward

671
00:57:05,601 --> 00:57:10,401
to have a new map to look at.

672
00:57:10,467 --> 00:57:11,667
>> thank you.

673
00:57:11,667 --> 00:57:14,667
we do need a motion.

674
00:57:15,334 --> 00:57:17,767
>> I make a motion to approve.

675
00:57:17,767 --> 00:57:18,968
mr. Richardson to come back

676
00:57:18,968 --> 00:57:23,768
with a map to approve it at his

677
00:57:31,133 --> 00:57:32,334
earliest timeframe.

678
00:57:32,334 --> 00:57:35,934
>> we have a motion and second.

679
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,200
>> roll call, please.

680
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,800
>> I just ask, is it important

681
00:57:48,670 --> 00:57:50,501
to follow of the last promotion

682
00:57:50,501 --> 00:57:52,934
that we receive the report and

683
00:57:52,934 --> 00:57:54,133
so forth. I didn't hear that in

684
00:57:54,133 --> 00:57:57,733
the motion. I don't know if

685
00:57:57,801 --> 00:58:00,201
it's legally required, mr.

686
00:58:00,267 --> 00:58:02,701
richardson or is the proposed

687
00:58:02,701 --> 00:58:05,133
motion is sufficient from a

688
00:58:05,133 --> 00:58:06,367
legal standpoint?

689
00:58:06,367 --> 00:58:08,801
>> yes, it is sufficient from a

690
00:58:08,801 --> 00:58:10,000
legal standpoint.

691
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,000
>> thank you, sir. .

692
00:58:12,434 --> 00:58:16,340
>> okay, so we are moving the

693
00:58:17,300 --> 00:58:20,300
motion as presented, is that

694
00:58:20,934 --> 00:58:22,167
accurate, council member

695
00:58:22,167 --> 00:58:23,367
nestande?

696
00:58:23,367 --> 00:58:24,601
>> yes.

697
00:58:24,601 --> 00:58:25,801
>> thank you.

698
00:58:25,801 --> 00:58:27,801
>> thank you.

699
00:58:28,234 --> 00:58:30,234
>> roll call, please.

700
00:58:30,667 --> 00:58:31,868
>>clerk:

701
00:58:31,868 --> 00:58:34,300
>>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

702
00:58:34,300 --> 00:58:35,534
aye.

703
00:58:35,534 --> 00:58:36,734
>>council member kathleen

704
00:58:36,734 --> 00:58:37,968
kelly: yes.

705
00:58:37,968 --> 00:58:39,167
>>council member gina nestande:

706
00:58:39,167 --> 00:58:41,167
yes.

707
00:58:42,834 --> 00:58:44,330
>>council member karina

708
00:58:44,330 --> 00:58:45,267
quintanilla: yes.

709
00:58:45,267 --> 00:58:47,667
>>mayor jan harnik: yes.

710
00:58:47,667 --> 00:58:48,901
>> motion passes unanimously.

711
00:58:48,901 --> 00:58:50,100
thank you.

712
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:52,500
>> thank you so much.

713
00:59:05,901 --> 00:59:08,901
thank you very much mr.

714
00:59:10,767 --> 00:59:11,968
richardson.

715
00:59:11,968 --> 00:59:16,168
we are going back to where we

716
00:59:18,670 --> 00:59:20,467
were which is no. 15.

717
00:59:24,133 --> 00:59:26,133
>>15. Ordinance no. 1374:

718
00:59:41,133 --> 00:59:42,367
update palm desert municipal

719
00:59:42,367 --> 00:59:43,567
code sections relative to

720
00:59:43,567 --> 00:59:45,567
organicwaste recycling

721
00:59:49,667 --> 00:59:50,868
requirements to comply with

722
00:59:50,868 --> 00:59:53,268
senate bill 1383 (1st reading)

723
00:59:56,934 --> 00:59:58,167
(

724
00:59:58,167 --> 00:59:59,367
>> good evening, honorable

725
00:59:59,367 --> 01:00:02,367
mayor and council members. This

726
01:00:05,467 --> 01:00:08,467
is the municipal code to

727
01:00:10,300 --> 01:00:13,300
coincide with organic waste and

728
01:00:23,667 --> 01:00:26,100
I'm available for answering any

729
01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:27,334
questions if needed.

730
01:00:27,334 --> 01:00:29,334
>> great, thank you.

731
01:00:29,767 --> 01:00:32,200
I see a hand up.

732
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,634
>>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

733
01:00:34,634 --> 01:00:35,834
thank you, mayor. The report

734
01:00:35,834 --> 01:00:38,267
and it's also my understanding

735
01:00:38,267 --> 01:00:40,667
that it indicates that

736
01:00:40,701 --> 01:00:43,101
implementation is required by

737
01:00:44,334 --> 01:00:46,734
january 1, 2022, and of course

738
01:00:50,434 --> 01:00:54,340
we are maybe 12 days past that.

739
01:00:57,701 --> 01:01:01,301
so are we behind the eight

740
01:01:14,801 --> 01:01:18,401
ball, are we going to be

741
01:01:18,434 --> 01:01:19,667
arrested?

742
01:01:19,667 --> 01:01:22,100
>> no. We are not behind the

743
01:01:22,100 --> 01:01:23,300
eight ball and we are ahead of

744
01:01:23,300 --> 01:01:26,900
the game and in good graces

745
01:01:28,670 --> 01:01:29,300
with recycle at this time.

746
01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:32,900
>> I don't have much to add

747
01:01:32,934 --> 01:01:35,367
other than what amy presented.

748
01:01:35,367 --> 01:01:38,367
>> I feel better already. Thank

749
01:01:42,667 --> 01:01:43,868
you.

750
01:01:43,868 --> 01:01:45,868
>> okay.

751
01:01:51,167 --> 01:01:53,167
>> council member kelly,

752
01:01:56,330 --> 01:01:58,330
please.

753
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,601
>> you are muted.

754
01:02:04,601 --> 01:02:06,601
>>council member kathleen

755
01:02:11,901 --> 01:02:15,501
kelly: in that vain, for the

756
01:02:15,534 --> 01:02:16,767
benefit of listening, what do

757
01:02:16,767 --> 01:02:20,367
we expect to be the actual

758
01:02:21,634 --> 01:02:23,634
implementation where people

759
01:02:26,501 --> 01:02:29,501
will be expected to change

760
01:02:31,334 --> 01:02:34,334
their practices and by which

761
01:02:37,434 --> 01:02:41,000
time we will equip them to do

762
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,200
that.

763
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,200
>> we have a prop 218 notice

764
01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:50,670
going out to palm desert

765
01:02:50,701 --> 01:02:52,701
residents. Beginning tomorrow

766
01:02:56,801 --> 01:03:01,100
and next week. That is a 45-day

767
01:03:01,701 --> 01:03:02,934
notice before the public

768
01:03:02,934 --> 01:03:04,133
hearing at the city council at

769
01:03:04,133 --> 01:03:07,133
the first council meeting in

770
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,000
march.

771
01:03:13,868 --> 01:03:17,468
that is to bring the proposed

772
01:03:19,934 --> 01:03:22,334
amending agreement and upon

773
01:03:22,367 --> 01:03:25,367
city council approval of that

774
01:03:34,534 --> 01:03:37,534
agreement will bring for july

775
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:40,601
1st.

776
01:03:40,601 --> 01:03:43,100
>> any other questions or

777
01:03:44,267 --> 01:03:46,267
comments?

778
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:58,100
>> that is quite an agreement.

779
01:04:01,267 --> 01:04:03,267
okay.

780
01:04:09,767 --> 01:04:13,367
if there are no questions nor

781
01:04:17,670 --> 01:04:20,670
comments, I will entertain a

782
01:04:24,334 --> 01:04:26,334
motion.

783
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,200
>> I move.

784
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,434
>> second.

785
01:04:30,434 --> 01:04:31,634
>>

786
01:04:31,634 --> 01:04:33,634
>> roll call, please.

787
01:04:34,670 --> 01:04:36,467
>>clerk: [roll call] motion

788
01:04:47,434 --> 01:04:49,434
passes unanimously.

789
01:04:55,934 --> 01:04:58,934
>> thank you very much. We'll

790
01:05:00,868 --> 01:05:02,100
go to 16.

791
01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:04,100
>>6. Resolution no. 2022-02:

792
01:05:15,367 --> 01:05:16,601
rescind resolution no. 2021-25

793
01:05:16,601 --> 01:05:19,100
and updating the homelessness

794
01:05:23,901 --> 01:05:25,100
taskforce bylaws; and appoint

795
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:26,300
members to serve on the

796
01:05:26,300 --> 01:05:27,534
homelessness taskforce

797
01:05:27,534 --> 01:05:31,134
that is ms. Horning who is

798
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,601
presenting.

799
01:05:33,601 --> 01:05:34,834
>> that's correct.

800
01:05:34,834 --> 01:05:36,330
good evening, mayor and

801
01:05:36,330 --> 01:05:37,267
council.

802
01:05:37,267 --> 01:05:39,701
I would like to start my

803
01:05:39,701 --> 01:05:40,901
presentation this evening by

804
01:05:40,901 --> 01:05:43,334
pointing out that there is this

805
01:05:43,334 --> 01:05:45,734
revised staff report with

806
01:05:50,634 --> 01:05:51,834
supplemental information this

807
01:05:51,834 --> 01:05:53,834
afternoon.

808
01:05:55,467 --> 01:05:58,467
the revised report is intended

809
01:05:59,133 --> 01:06:00,400
to clarify changes in the

810
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,800
staff's recommendation and I

811
01:06:02,834 --> 01:06:06,434
will go over this in the

812
01:06:07,701 --> 01:06:08,934
presentation.

813
01:06:08,934 --> 01:06:12,567
bear with me as I'm going to

814
01:06:12,567 --> 01:06:15,567
share this on my screen.

815
01:06:23,434 --> 01:06:24,634
okay, everybody can see my

816
01:06:24,634 --> 01:06:26,634
presentation all right?

817
01:06:30,701 --> 01:06:31,934
>> yes.

818
01:06:31,934 --> 01:06:33,133
>> okay.

819
01:06:33,133 --> 01:06:36,733
>> I wonder if you can make

820
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,000
that bigger.

821
01:07:04,801 --> 01:07:08,401
>> I think I shared the wrong

822
01:07:08,467 --> 01:07:10,867
screen. Here we go.

823
01:07:13,334 --> 01:07:15,334
all right.

824
01:07:20,601 --> 01:07:22,601
>> is that better?

825
01:07:25,467 --> 01:07:27,467
>> wonderful.

826
01:07:33,901 --> 01:07:35,100
>> okay.

827
01:07:35,100 --> 01:07:36,334
>> okay.

828
01:07:36,334 --> 01:07:38,767
the city council as you all

829
01:07:38,767 --> 01:07:41,200
know has been working onseting

830
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,634
up a homelessness task force

831
01:07:43,634 --> 01:07:47,234
for a while now. Interviews for

832
01:07:47,267 --> 01:07:50,267
open positions were held in

833
01:07:52,133 --> 01:07:55,133
december and resulted in and

834
01:08:03,133 --> 01:08:05,533
council will appoint 8 members

835
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,200
and two alternates.

836
01:08:14,670 --> 01:08:17,670
consist of two council members,

837
01:08:28,667 --> 01:08:31,670
the chair, two community

838
01:08:39,601 --> 01:08:40,801
members, business member,

839
01:08:40,801 --> 01:08:42,801
alternate.

840
01:09:48,868 --> 01:09:51,868
this also removes the question

841
01:09:58,501 --> 01:10:00,501
to include bylaws.

842
01:10:05,801 --> 01:10:08,234
which are incorporated in the

843
01:10:08,234 --> 01:10:10,667
staff report for reference and

844
01:10:10,667 --> 01:10:13,670
they are on your screen.

845
01:10:13,670 --> 01:10:15,501
the request is to wait until

846
01:10:15,501 --> 01:10:17,934
after the homeless task force

847
01:10:17,934 --> 01:10:20,367
is able to be established and

848
01:10:20,367 --> 01:10:22,801
be able to review the bylaws

849
01:10:22,801 --> 01:10:24,330
and all the changes will be

850
01:10:24,330 --> 01:10:27,633
brought back to council at the

851
01:10:27,667 --> 01:10:31,267
same time at a future date.

852
01:10:41,330 --> 01:10:43,467
at this time, I'm happy to

853
01:10:43,467 --> 01:10:46,467
answer any questions you may

854
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:48,334
have.

855
01:10:48,334 --> 01:10:52,534
>> I see we have a few hands.

856
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,634
we'll start with council member

857
01:10:55,634 --> 01:10:56,834
jonathan.

858
01:10:56,834 --> 01:10:59,267
>>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

859
01:10:59,267 --> 01:11:02,267
thank you, mayor. Just very

860
01:11:02,968 --> 01:11:05,400
briefly ms. Horning and council

861
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,400
member quintanilla, my

862
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,200
recollection is that the is

863
01:11:33,267 --> 01:11:35,701
that it's consistent with the

864
01:11:35,701 --> 01:11:36,934
selection committee. Is that

865
01:11:36,934 --> 01:11:38,133
correct?

866
01:11:38,133 --> 01:11:39,367
>> yes.

867
01:11:39,367 --> 01:11:40,567
>>

868
01:11:40,567 --> 01:11:41,801
>>council member kathleen

869
01:11:41,801 --> 01:11:43,000
kelly: that's exactly what I

870
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,600
wanted to confirm. So thank you

871
01:11:46,667 --> 01:11:49,667
chl. Are there any other

872
01:12:11,330 --> 01:12:13,330
questions or comments?

873
01:12:14,667 --> 01:12:15,901
>> I move.

874
01:12:15,901 --> 01:12:17,100
>> we have a motion and second.

875
01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:18,334
>>council member kathleen

876
01:12:18,334 --> 01:12:21,934
kelly: is that a motion to

877
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:25,601
approve both the alternates

878
01:12:25,601 --> 01:12:29,201
that has been presented, if so,

879
01:12:30,467 --> 01:12:31,701
second.

880
01:12:31,701 --> 01:12:34,701
>> that is correct. Thank you.

881
01:12:36,534 --> 01:12:40,134
>> we have a motion and second.

882
01:12:43,834 --> 01:12:45,834
>> roll call, please.

883
01:12:52,334 --> 01:12:53,567
>>clerk: [roll call]

884
01:12:53,567 --> 01:12:55,567
>> motion passes 5-0.

885
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,400
>> thank you so much.

886
01:13:32,534 --> 01:13:33,734
17. Request to approve

887
01:13:33,734 --> 01:13:34,968
amendment no. 1 to contract no.

888
01:13:34,968 --> 01:13:37,368
c37040b with southstar

889
01:13:40,934 --> 01:13:42,167
engineering and consulting of

890
01:13:42,167 --> 01:13:43,367
riverside, california in an

891
01:13:43,367 --> 01:13:45,767
amount not to exceed $350,000

892
01:13:54,300 --> 01:13:55,534
for additional construction

893
01:13:55,534 --> 01:13:56,734
management services related to

894
01:13:56,734 --> 01:14:00,334
president£s plaza east and west

895
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:05,334
parking lot improvements

896
01:14:05,334 --> 01:14:07,734
(project no. 758-14) (cc)

897
01:14:07,767 --> 01:14:11,367
is that mr. Fireside who is

898
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,834
willing to present this? No.

899
01:14:13,834 --> 01:14:16,234
there is mr. Bauman.

900
01:14:17,467 --> 01:14:20,467
>> thank you, mayor and city

901
01:14:23,567 --> 01:14:25,967
council. Audrey prepared this

902
01:14:25,968 --> 01:14:28,368
report. Audrey, are you

903
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,634
connected?

904
01:14:29,634 --> 01:14:30,834
>> I'm here.

905
01:14:30,834 --> 01:14:32,834
>> there she is.

906
01:14:35,701 --> 01:14:39,901
I'm here to back up audrey as

907
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:45,434
needed.

908
01:14:45,434 --> 01:14:46,634
>> okay, I'm going to start

909
01:14:46,634 --> 01:14:49,000
this presentation up real

910
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,000
quick. Can you see it?

911
01:14:53,868 --> 01:14:55,868
>> yes.

912
01:15:02,434 --> 01:15:04,834
>> today we are requesting

913
01:15:09,734 --> 01:15:10,934
additional budget for

914
01:15:10,934 --> 01:15:12,934
engineering to provide

915
01:15:13,367 --> 01:15:14,567
additional construction

916
01:15:14,567 --> 01:15:16,967
management services to complete

917
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,234
the construction for the

918
01:15:18,234 --> 01:15:20,634
president plaza the parking

919
01:15:25,534 --> 01:15:26,734
renovation project.

920
01:15:26,734 --> 01:15:28,734
throughout construction project

921
01:15:31,601 --> 01:15:32,801
has experienced numerous

922
01:15:32,801 --> 01:15:35,201
challenges and resulted in

923
01:15:35,234 --> 01:15:37,634
additional work and overall

924
01:15:37,667 --> 01:15:38,901
expended construction schedule.

925
01:15:38,901 --> 01:15:43,101
for now, I want to start by

926
01:15:52,267 --> 01:15:53,467
summarizing some of the

927
01:15:53,467 --> 01:15:56,467
additional work items that have

928
01:15:59,567 --> 01:16:00,834
been required during

929
01:16:00,834 --> 01:16:03,834
construction. Here is just a

930
01:16:11,701 --> 01:16:15,301
few of the bigger examples that

931
01:16:16,567 --> 01:16:20,167
we have. As you probably all

932
01:16:26,267 --> 01:16:28,667
heard, our construction team

933
01:16:29,934 --> 01:16:32,934
has found to date 18 septic

934
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,400
tanks throughout the project

935
01:16:46,934 --> 01:16:49,934
site. Many of which were

936
01:16:51,801 --> 01:16:53,000
properly abandoned and

937
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,000
connected the affected

938
01:16:55,434 --> 01:16:57,868
businesses to the sewer system.

939
01:16:57,868 --> 01:17:01,601
we also had a lot of issues

940
01:17:01,601 --> 01:17:04,601
while grading with dealing with

941
01:17:07,667 --> 01:17:10,670
wet and dry utilities.

942
01:17:18,534 --> 01:17:23,334
dpw has had a lot of delays. So

943
01:17:27,330 --> 01:17:30,633
our contractor had to wait and

944
01:17:36,767 --> 01:17:37,968
work around the infrastructure

945
01:17:37,968 --> 01:17:40,400
around all the bright water

946
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,834
lines that should have been

947
01:17:42,834 --> 01:17:47,340
vacated and in turn we had the

948
01:17:47,701 --> 01:17:51,901
lower a lot of those and we

949
01:17:52,534 --> 01:17:56,200
also had to replace a lot of

950
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:57,400
wet and dry utilities because

951
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:01,000
they were shallow and also a

952
01:18:03,567 --> 01:18:07,167
lot of them were sewer lines

953
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,834
and private lines and aged

954
01:18:10,834 --> 01:18:13,234
and/or damaged during

955
01:18:19,367 --> 01:18:20,567
construction.

956
01:18:20,567 --> 01:18:24,167
as for dry utilities, we had

957
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:38,734
spectrum and sce come out for

958
01:18:38,734 --> 01:18:41,167
the lower area that was graded.

959
01:18:41,167 --> 01:18:44,167
we also ran into several

960
01:18:44,801 --> 01:18:46,000
unmarked system lines that had

961
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:50,200
to be lowered and they were in

962
01:18:53,300 --> 01:18:56,900
both in east and west lots.

963
01:18:58,167 --> 01:19:01,167
very expensive amount of work.

964
01:19:01,868 --> 01:19:04,268
in addition, our contractors

965
01:19:04,300 --> 01:19:05,534
refined the ada improvement

966
01:19:05,534 --> 01:19:09,134
design. We got a lot of

967
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,800
comments from businesses that

968
01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:22,534
there weren't enough ada ramps

969
01:19:22,534 --> 01:19:24,968
coming from the parking lot. So

970
01:19:24,968 --> 01:19:28,601
we added some of those. Also we

971
01:19:28,601 --> 01:19:31,330
refined the larger ramps to the

972
01:19:31,330 --> 01:19:32,267
businesses that needed them so

973
01:19:32,267 --> 01:19:35,867
they really match well with the

974
01:19:37,133 --> 01:19:39,533
existing buildings. They were

975
01:19:39,567 --> 01:19:41,567
being applied to.

976
01:19:44,334 --> 01:19:47,968
due to the cwd delays, we also

977
01:19:47,968 --> 01:19:50,400
had some rework for the

978
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,400
contractor. They had to leave

979
01:19:56,501 --> 01:20:00,101
out some segments of the and

980
01:20:46,334 --> 01:20:49,934
make connections so cwd had to

981
01:20:51,167 --> 01:20:54,734
redo some work that resulted in

982
01:20:54,734 --> 01:20:58,934
this -- for this type of work.

983
01:21:10,601 --> 01:21:13,601
we also chose to install

984
01:21:14,267 --> 01:21:16,267
temporary light towers

985
01:21:21,534 --> 01:21:24,534
throughout project site, as a

986
01:21:31,267 --> 01:21:34,867
safety measure until we can get

987
01:21:34,934 --> 01:21:37,934
the new lighting put in.

988
01:21:39,767 --> 01:21:42,167
the additional sidewalk redesign

989
01:21:47,670 --> 01:21:49,467
from the contractor included

990
01:21:50,734 --> 01:21:54,334
curb ramp designs to match the

991
01:22:00,501 --> 01:22:01,734
existing conditions and

992
01:22:01,734 --> 01:22:03,734
additional drainage

993
01:22:05,367 --> 01:22:07,734
improvements that work better

994
01:22:07,734 --> 01:22:10,734
with the lower profile curb

995
01:22:11,367 --> 01:22:13,801
design, and also some redesign

996
01:22:13,801 --> 01:22:16,801
around palm trees and sidewalks

997
01:22:17,434 --> 01:22:20,434
that are going to remain.

998
01:22:28,367 --> 01:22:29,601
this map, we included this. I

999
01:22:29,601 --> 01:22:32,330
know it's hard to see but I'm

1000
01:22:32,330 --> 01:22:34,467
not going to spend a lot of

1001
01:22:34,467 --> 01:22:38,667
time on it. This just shows all

1002
01:22:40,534 --> 01:22:42,534
of those improvements

1003
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:46,601
throughout the project site. So

1004
01:22:46,601 --> 01:22:49,330
this is the east lot and you

1005
01:22:49,330 --> 01:22:51,467
will see this is a spectrum

1006
01:22:51,467 --> 01:22:55,670
line I was talking about here.

1007
01:23:07,334 --> 01:23:10,334
and it shows the improvements

1008
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,000
are not located in individual

1009
01:23:14,634 --> 01:23:17,670
project site. We have run into

1010
01:23:17,670 --> 01:23:19,400
issues all over every time we

1011
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:23,000
put a shovel in the ground.

1012
01:23:24,267 --> 01:23:27,267
that was the east lot.

1013
01:23:30,334 --> 01:23:33,934
this is the west lot and

1014
01:23:36,434 --> 01:23:37,634
another large spectrum line

1015
01:23:37,634 --> 01:23:41,234
that we found while we were

1016
01:23:42,501 --> 01:23:46,101
digging and septic and all the

1017
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:52,234
sidewalks and utilities.

1018
01:23:52,234 --> 01:23:55,834
this shows the severity of the

1019
01:23:55,868 --> 01:23:58,268
additional work that's been

1020
01:24:03,234 --> 01:24:04,434
completed.

1021
01:24:04,434 --> 01:24:06,868
so that has ultimately extended

1022
01:24:06,868 --> 01:24:08,100
the work schedule for

1023
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:09,300
construction. Right now I want

1024
01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:12,900
to give you a quick update,

1025
01:24:19,330 --> 01:24:21,433
where we are at.

1026
01:24:22,667 --> 01:24:25,100
by the site, you will see the

1027
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:28,767
east lot was paved on the 23rd.

1028
01:24:28,767 --> 01:24:31,167
most of the parking lot now

1029
01:24:31,167 --> 01:24:33,601
open for parking. We do have

1030
01:24:33,601 --> 01:24:36,330
some staging and the contractor

1031
01:24:36,330 --> 01:24:39,330
is going to to continue

1032
01:24:39,701 --> 01:24:40,901
installing other improvements

1033
01:24:40,901 --> 01:24:45,701
in that lot and they plan to be

1034
01:24:45,767 --> 01:24:48,767
done with most to the

1035
01:24:57,934 --> 01:25:00,434
construction and that lot by

1036
01:25:00,434 --> 01:25:04,340
the end of february. That is

1037
01:25:05,267 --> 01:25:07,267
club landscaping, lighting,

1038
01:25:12,567 --> 01:25:14,567
closures, the works.

1039
01:25:16,234 --> 01:25:18,634
cwd is expected to complete

1040
01:25:18,634 --> 01:25:21,670
their work next week and should

1041
01:25:21,670 --> 01:25:24,670
have the sidewalks finished and

1042
01:25:24,734 --> 01:25:27,734
should look really good. And

1043
01:25:29,601 --> 01:25:33,201
now the west lot is scheduled

1044
01:25:33,234 --> 01:25:36,234
for february 23rd and 24. The

1045
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:40,534
remaining lots will be closed

1046
01:25:40,534 --> 01:25:42,968
to vehicle traffic until the

1047
01:25:42,968 --> 01:25:46,534
lot is paved. The contractor is

1048
01:25:46,534 --> 01:25:48,534
only required to

1049
01:25:53,801 --> 01:25:57,401
have 150 spots on the lot and

1050
01:25:58,667 --> 01:25:59,901
agreed to have spots open in

1051
01:25:59,901 --> 01:26:03,601
the area as feasible as long as

1052
01:26:03,601 --> 01:26:07,201
they are safe to provide as

1053
01:26:09,667 --> 01:26:12,100
much parking as possible to the

1054
01:26:12,100 --> 01:26:15,100
businesses. We still don't have

1055
01:26:20,634 --> 01:26:23,330
a solid date to cwd's work

1056
01:26:23,330 --> 01:26:26,330
schedule yet but they are

1057
01:26:31,567 --> 01:26:35,200
hoping to be at the lot by the

1058
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:36,434
end of this month. That's where

1059
01:26:36,434 --> 01:26:40,340
we stand now. I wanted to

1060
01:26:41,267 --> 01:26:42,501
highlight the construction

1061
01:26:42,501 --> 01:26:46,101
schedule. When we set up the

1062
01:26:46,133 --> 01:26:47,367
contract, the contractor was

1063
01:26:47,367 --> 01:26:49,767
getting 125 working days to

1064
01:26:49,801 --> 01:26:52,801
complete the interim portion of

1065
01:26:55,868 --> 01:26:57,868
the project.

1066
01:27:00,701 --> 01:27:01,934
it's primarily getting the lots

1067
01:27:01,934 --> 01:27:05,534
paid and that was planned for

1068
01:27:05,567 --> 01:27:07,967
december 1, 2021. And then the

1069
01:27:10,434 --> 01:27:13,434
completion date for the total

1070
01:27:14,670 --> 01:27:16,670
project was january 29, 2022.

1071
01:27:26,234 --> 01:27:28,667
based on the additional work,

1072
01:27:28,667 --> 01:27:31,670
we have granted 40 extra

1073
01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:33,500
working days for the

1074
01:27:35,968 --> 01:27:38,968
contractor. So now the interim

1075
01:27:39,601 --> 01:27:42,100
completion date is february 8,

1076
01:27:43,234 --> 01:27:46,234
andth, and the total completion

1077
01:27:56,634 --> 01:27:59,330
date is april 11th.

1078
01:27:59,330 --> 01:28:02,633
the interim date is where the

1079
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,600
lots are primarily open,

1080
01:28:13,634 --> 01:28:14,834
drivable, usable and the

1081
01:28:14,834 --> 01:28:16,330
completion date in april will

1082
01:28:16,330 --> 01:28:19,330
be for all the other

1083
01:28:22,133 --> 01:28:24,533
improvements that would require

1084
01:28:29,434 --> 01:28:33,634
-- once the lots are paved, we

1085
01:28:37,934 --> 01:28:39,133
should see improvement.

1086
01:28:39,133 --> 01:28:42,733
with that being said, we need

1087
01:28:48,868 --> 01:28:51,268
the management and on-site

1088
01:28:59,801 --> 01:29:02,201
during construction and extra

1089
01:29:05,934 --> 01:29:08,334
management required for the

1090
01:29:09,601 --> 01:29:10,801
construction for april.

1091
01:29:10,801 --> 01:29:12,330
I'm happy to answer any

1092
01:29:12,330 --> 01:29:15,330
questions if you have them.

1093
01:29:16,868 --> 01:29:19,868
>> okay, we have hands up.

1094
01:29:28,968 --> 01:29:30,968
council member kelly.

1095
01:29:33,834 --> 01:29:35,330
>>council member kathleen

1096
01:29:35,330 --> 01:29:39,233
kelly: yes. I would like to try

1097
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:42,334
to understand this correctly

1098
01:29:42,334 --> 01:29:45,934
and members of the public who

1099
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,400
are listening.

1100
01:29:50,834 --> 01:29:53,834
do I understand correctly, we

1101
01:29:58,133 --> 01:30:00,533
have already approved the

1102
01:30:01,767 --> 01:30:03,767
additional construction work

1103
01:30:28,501 --> 01:30:32,101
that is necessary for the work

1104
01:30:33,367 --> 01:30:36,967
and the contract for the entity

1105
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:46,600
that we contracted to over see

1106
01:30:46,667 --> 01:30:48,667
that work.

1107
01:30:52,734 --> 01:30:53,934
>> correct.

1108
01:30:53,934 --> 01:30:56,367
we are still grading. There is

1109
01:30:56,367 --> 01:30:58,767
still potential for some

1110
01:31:01,300 --> 01:31:03,300
additional constraints.

1111
01:31:14,667 --> 01:31:17,670
>> we have identified the

1112
01:31:17,100 --> 01:31:20,100
additional work and received in

1113
01:31:25,601 --> 01:31:29,801
the budget if we find any other

1114
01:31:32,901 --> 01:31:35,334
issues. This is just for

1115
01:31:35,334 --> 01:31:38,334
management on site to help

1116
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,000
watch over the contractor, help

1117
01:31:42,634 --> 01:31:45,340
redesign the field, help

1118
01:31:47,501 --> 01:31:49,901
resolve issues. Through the

1119
01:31:52,267 --> 01:31:54,267
construction.

1120
01:31:55,934 --> 01:31:57,133
>> thank you.

1121
01:31:57,133 --> 01:31:59,133
>>> thank you.

1122
01:32:11,801 --> 01:32:13,000
>>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

1123
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:14,200
thank you.

1124
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:17,800
I have to ask again, the

1125
01:32:17,868 --> 01:32:20,268
original cost estimate was $8.6

1126
01:32:22,734 --> 01:32:25,734
million. Through no call of

1127
01:32:33,667 --> 01:32:36,667
staff or our management team,

1128
01:32:37,300 --> 01:32:40,300
you know the cost has

1129
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,400
skyrocketed almost $3 million

1130
01:32:48,234 --> 01:32:50,634
from 8.6 to 11.5. And we've

1131
01:32:55,534 --> 01:32:56,767
discovered these previously

1132
01:32:56,767 --> 01:32:59,167
unknown conditions under the

1133
01:33:04,330 --> 01:33:06,467
ground that has largely caused

1134
01:33:06,467 --> 01:33:08,901
these increases and they keep

1135
01:33:08,901 --> 01:33:10,100
rising from the deep.

1136
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:12,500
here is the question.

1137
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:21,000
are we -- do we have a sense

1138
01:33:24,701 --> 01:33:27,701
whether there is control and

1139
01:33:28,334 --> 01:33:29,567
whether there is more monsters

1140
01:33:29,567 --> 01:33:30,767
down there?

1141
01:33:30,767 --> 01:33:33,200
>> yes, we are in the last, the

1142
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:37,400
north side of the west lot is

1143
01:33:39,267 --> 01:33:40,501
the west quadrant of the site

1144
01:33:40,501 --> 01:33:44,101
that has to be graded. The

1145
01:33:45,367 --> 01:33:48,367
other three -- that have

1146
01:33:53,868 --> 01:33:56,268
previously been closed, we've

1147
01:33:57,501 --> 01:33:59,934
already graded them out. They

1148
01:33:59,934 --> 01:34:03,534
are a finished grade. So this

1149
01:34:04,868 --> 01:34:07,268
week, we have identified

1150
01:34:12,167 --> 01:34:13,367
utilities that the contractor

1151
01:34:13,367 --> 01:34:16,934
has addressed and we have found

1152
01:34:16,934 --> 01:34:19,934
additional cesspool, but as we

1153
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:26,600
get to that final grade, then

1154
01:34:27,868 --> 01:34:30,868
we feel much more confident

1155
01:34:31,534 --> 01:34:35,134
that we will not hit anymore

1156
01:34:35,167 --> 01:34:38,167
surprises. The sooner we can

1157
01:34:41,234 --> 01:34:43,234
close the ground,

1158
01:34:46,100 --> 01:34:49,100
the more confident that we

1159
01:34:49,767 --> 01:34:50,968
feel.

1160
01:34:50,968 --> 01:34:54,568
>> thank you so much. All of

1161
01:34:54,601 --> 01:34:57,330
your hard work. Very much

1162
01:34:57,330 --> 01:34:58,267
appreciated.

1163
01:34:58,267 --> 01:34:59,467
>> thank you.

1164
01:34:59,467 --> 01:35:01,968
>> I have a question. By the

1165
01:35:01,968 --> 01:35:04,400
way, that's why there are

1166
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:07,400
surprises because no one knows

1167
01:35:14,133 --> 01:35:15,334
about it.

1168
01:35:15,334 --> 01:35:20,134
do you have any idea of the age

1169
01:35:22,634 --> 01:35:25,634
of the septic systems, the

1170
01:35:31,670 --> 01:35:33,467
surprise septic systems? Do

1171
01:35:33,501 --> 01:35:34,701
you have any idea of the age?

1172
01:35:34,701 --> 01:35:38,301
>> I don't know the exact age,

1173
01:35:38,367 --> 01:35:39,567
but they haven't been permitted

1174
01:35:39,567 --> 01:35:44,367
in a very long time. I know the

1175
01:35:49,300 --> 01:35:51,700
east lot was originally

1176
01:35:51,734 --> 01:35:54,134
developed in 1970. I wouldn't

1177
01:35:54,167 --> 01:35:57,767
be surprised if they were 40-50

1178
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,300
years old.

1179
01:36:00,300 --> 01:36:03,900
>> I wanted to make the point

1180
01:36:03,934 --> 01:36:07,534
that a lot of this system,

1181
01:36:08,801 --> 01:36:11,201
before the city was

1182
01:36:11,234 --> 01:36:13,667
incorporated. So we don't have,

1183
01:36:13,667 --> 01:36:14,868
unfortunately, we don't have

1184
01:36:14,868 --> 01:36:19,680
the plans for some of this. So

1185
01:36:19,734 --> 01:36:23,334
I know on the level of

1186
01:36:29,467 --> 01:36:30,667
frustration for staff and I

1187
01:36:30,667 --> 01:36:33,100
know for the merchants is

1188
01:36:33,100 --> 01:36:34,334
really difficult.

1189
01:36:34,334 --> 01:36:36,767
at some point, we had to take

1190
01:36:36,767 --> 01:36:39,200
this on. And we chose to do it

1191
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:40,400
and we are going to get it done

1192
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:44,000
and it will be an amazing

1193
01:36:45,267 --> 01:36:48,267
project when it's finished and

1194
01:36:51,334 --> 01:36:54,334
it has to be done.

1195
01:36:57,434 --> 01:37:01,634
so thank you for doing what you

1196
01:37:04,767 --> 01:37:08,367
are doing. And now cvwd has

1197
01:37:09,634 --> 01:37:12,670
some problems with the chain

1198
01:37:12,670 --> 01:37:14,501
and what next. Thanks for

1199
01:37:14,501 --> 01:37:18,101
hanging in there and trying to

1200
01:37:20,567 --> 01:37:23,567
keep people informed as you

1201
01:37:31,501 --> 01:37:33,934
can. I know it's important and

1202
01:37:33,934 --> 01:37:35,167
difficult for you and difficult

1203
01:37:35,167 --> 01:37:36,367
for everybody involved. Thank

1204
01:37:36,367 --> 01:37:37,601
you.

1205
01:37:37,601 --> 01:37:40,330
>> I see a couple more hands

1206
01:37:40,330 --> 01:37:41,234
up.

1207
01:37:41,234 --> 01:37:43,234
council member kelly.

1208
01:37:48,534 --> 01:37:50,534
>>council member kathleen

1209
01:37:50,968 --> 01:37:54,568
kelly: if it's time, I would

1210
01:37:55,734 --> 01:37:57,734
move to approve.

1211
01:38:06,734 --> 01:38:07,968
council member nestande may

1212
01:38:07,968 --> 01:38:10,368
have something to express

1213
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:14,000
first. I should move we should

1214
01:38:15,267 --> 01:38:17,701
have one heck of a party but I

1215
01:38:17,701 --> 01:38:20,701
will leave that to staff.

1216
01:38:23,767 --> 01:38:27,367
>> we'll have nice lots of nice

1217
01:38:39,567 --> 01:38:40,767
smooth pavement.

1218
01:38:40,767 --> 01:38:42,000
>>council member gina nestande:

1219
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:45,600
yes, I will second the motion.

1220
01:38:49,300 --> 01:38:52,934
I just wanted to add if at all

1221
01:38:52,934 --> 01:38:55,367
possible because staff is not

1222
01:38:55,367 --> 01:38:59,567
busy enough if we can come up

1223
01:39:01,501 --> 01:39:05,167
with a plan b or c with the

1224
01:39:05,167 --> 01:39:08,167
parking. Is what I'm hearing

1225
01:39:08,701 --> 01:39:11,133
with businesses is that there

1226
01:39:11,133 --> 01:39:13,567
is no place to park to frequent

1227
01:39:13,567 --> 01:39:14,801
their business. I have been

1228
01:39:14,801 --> 01:39:17,234
thinking and thinking about it

1229
01:39:17,234 --> 01:39:20,834
and I know february 8th is

1230
01:39:20,868 --> 01:39:23,868
almost here for the interim

1231
01:39:24,501 --> 01:39:26,901
completion. But I'm just

1232
01:39:36,667 --> 01:39:39,100
throwing that out there for

1233
01:39:39,100 --> 01:39:40,300
staff.

1234
01:39:40,300 --> 01:39:43,900
>> I thought it was very good.

1235
01:39:50,330 --> 01:39:51,267
>> okay.

1236
01:39:51,267 --> 01:39:54,267
>> do I give an overview?

1237
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:05,800
>> the partners with the

1238
01:40:08,267 --> 01:40:10,267
development department, tried

1239
01:40:14,334 --> 01:40:16,767
to secure temporary leases of

1240
01:40:16,767 --> 01:40:19,767
two existing parking lots. The

1241
01:40:20,334 --> 01:40:23,934
old union bank site being one

1242
01:40:26,434 --> 01:40:28,434
of them.

1243
01:40:36,133 --> 01:40:39,133
and we have been encouraging

1244
01:40:39,801 --> 01:40:42,201
businesses and customers and

1245
01:40:44,634 --> 01:40:47,634
business employees to use those

1246
01:40:51,934 --> 01:40:54,334
lots particularly when we've

1247
01:40:54,367 --> 01:40:57,967
had to do closures for bathing.

1248
01:41:01,734 --> 01:41:04,134
in addition, working on

1249
01:41:04,167 --> 01:41:05,367
temporary timed parking

1250
01:41:05,367 --> 01:41:07,767
restrictions, for instance, on

1251
01:41:07,801 --> 01:41:10,801
palm desert drive south to

1252
01:41:13,868 --> 01:41:16,268
allow for greater customer

1253
01:41:27,267 --> 01:41:30,267
access to the businesses and

1254
01:41:30,901 --> 01:41:33,234
there are tweaks we have been

1255
01:41:33,234 --> 01:41:36,901
making to the parking to add to

1256
01:41:36,901 --> 01:41:38,100
the growing shifting and

1257
01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:41,100
phasing of the parking. For

1258
01:41:42,968 --> 01:41:44,200
instance, we are considering

1259
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:47,800
handicap parking for one of the

1260
01:41:51,467 --> 01:41:54,467
businesses while they are for

1261
01:42:00,670 --> 01:42:03,670
every department of ada parking

1262
01:42:03,701 --> 01:42:04,901
was moved. Staff is working

1263
01:42:04,901 --> 01:42:07,901
with the businesses to make

1264
01:42:08,567 --> 01:42:10,967
these temporary arrangements so

1265
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:13,434
far.

1266
01:42:13,434 --> 01:42:15,834
>> thank you, randy. I

1267
01:42:17,670 --> 01:42:18,267
appreciate it.

1268
01:42:18,267 --> 01:42:21,867
>>mayor jan harnik: we have a

1269
01:42:23,133 --> 01:42:25,567
motion and second. Unless there

1270
01:42:25,567 --> 01:42:28,000
is any other discussion, can we

1271
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,600
have a roll call vote, please.

1272
01:42:37,734 --> 01:42:38,934
>>clerk: [roll call]

1273
01:42:38,934 --> 01:42:40,934
>> motion passes unanimously.

1274
01:43:03,234 --> 01:43:05,634
>> thank you so much.

1275
01:43:05,667 --> 01:43:08,667
>> okay, we will move to 18.

1276
01:43:10,534 --> 01:43:12,534
>>

1277
01:43:25,100 --> 01:43:26,334
18. Request to approve the

1278
01:43:26,334 --> 01:43:27,534
annual council liaison

1279
01:43:27,534 --> 01:43:28,767
assignments for calendar year

1280
01:43:28,767 --> 01:43:29,968
2022

1281
01:43:29,968 --> 01:43:31,200
we have named on that. It's

1282
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:33,634
something that the mayor does

1283
01:43:33,634 --> 01:43:36,670
and I will give a quick

1284
01:43:36,670 --> 01:43:39,670
overview if that's okay with

1285
01:43:40,901 --> 01:43:42,901
you.

1286
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:48,200
madam clerk?

1287
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:49,434
>> absolutely.

1288
01:43:49,434 --> 01:43:50,634
>> okay.

1289
01:43:50,634 --> 01:43:51,868
this is something we just

1290
01:43:51,868 --> 01:43:55,468
review to make sure that the

1291
01:43:56,701 --> 01:43:59,701
city is well represented and

1292
01:44:02,767 --> 01:44:05,200
the council is asked to review

1293
01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:06,434
and confirm their appointments.

1294
01:44:06,434 --> 01:44:10,340
and we have gone through this

1295
01:44:12,501 --> 01:44:14,501
process.

1296
01:44:14,934 --> 01:44:17,934
are there any comments or

1297
01:44:22,234 --> 01:44:23,434
questions regarding these

1298
01:44:23,434 --> 01:44:26,434
appointments? I think we have

1299
01:44:30,734 --> 01:44:33,167
strong representation in all of

1300
01:44:33,167 --> 01:44:36,767
the entities that are on this

1301
01:44:36,801 --> 01:44:38,330
matrix and I thank you for all

1302
01:44:38,330 --> 01:44:41,633
the extra work you have done

1303
01:44:44,100 --> 01:44:46,100
with this.

1304
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,834
can we have a motion, please.

1305
01:44:53,834 --> 01:44:55,330
>> I motion to approve the

1306
01:44:55,330 --> 01:44:57,330
committee assignments.

1307
01:44:57,467 --> 01:44:58,667
>> thank you very much.

1308
01:44:58,667 --> 01:44:59,901
is there a second.

1309
01:44:59,901 --> 01:45:01,167
>> second.

1310
01:45:01,167 --> 01:45:03,167
>>

1311
01:45:03,601 --> 01:45:05,601
>> roll call, please.

1312
01:45:08,467 --> 01:45:10,467
>>clerk: [roll call]

1313
01:45:30,267 --> 01:45:31,467
motion passes 5-0.

1314
01:45:31,467 --> 01:45:33,867
>> thank you so much.

1315
01:45:35,133 --> 01:45:37,533
>>19. Request to appoint two

1316
01:45:47,267 --> 01:45:48,501
(2) city councilmembers to the

1317
01:45:48,501 --> 01:45:51,501
palm desert ihub advisory board

1318
01:45:54,567 --> 01:45:55,801
>> good evening mayor and

1319
01:45:55,801 --> 01:45:58,201
council. I'm the business

1320
01:45:58,234 --> 01:46:01,834
advocate and also over see the

1321
01:46:03,133 --> 01:46:06,133
agreement between the city and

1322
01:46:12,868 --> 01:46:15,268
the coachella valley economic

1323
01:46:15,300 --> 01:46:17,700
partnership for their oversight

1324
01:46:20,167 --> 01:46:21,367
of the palm desert hub. Part of

1325
01:46:21,367 --> 01:46:23,801
the agreement is the advisory

1326
01:46:23,801 --> 01:46:24,934
committee that has two

1327
01:46:24,934 --> 01:46:26,167
representatives from the city

1328
01:46:26,167 --> 01:46:30,367
council as part of it as well

1329
01:46:33,467 --> 01:46:35,867
as business members and

1330
01:46:40,734 --> 01:46:43,134
representatives from cal state

1331
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:45,601
san bernardino palm desert. So

1332
01:46:45,601 --> 01:46:49,201
with the staff report, staff is

1333
01:46:50,467 --> 01:46:53,467
asking for two appointees for

1334
01:46:55,334 --> 01:46:57,334
that.

1335
01:46:58,968 --> 01:47:01,368
>> okay. Are there any

1336
01:47:02,701 --> 01:47:03,901
questions regarding these

1337
01:47:03,901 --> 01:47:07,501
appointments? I see a hand up.

1338
01:47:07,534 --> 01:47:08,767
>>council member karina

1339
01:47:08,767 --> 01:47:11,167
quintanilla: thank you, mayor.

1340
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,800
my question is what is the

1341
01:47:14,834 --> 01:47:17,234
projected time that these

1342
01:47:18,501 --> 01:47:21,501
meetings are scheduled for the

1343
01:47:24,567 --> 01:47:25,767
I-hub advisory?

1344
01:47:25,767 --> 01:47:28,767
>> I believe the meetings will

1345
01:47:29,434 --> 01:47:33,670
be more of an ad hoc schedule.

1346
01:47:33,670 --> 01:47:36,701
at this point in time it will

1347
01:47:36,701 --> 01:47:40,301
be through zoom. It will depend

1348
01:47:43,934 --> 01:47:46,367
on -- this advisory board will

1349
01:47:46,367 --> 01:47:49,967
be setting up the policies for

1350
01:47:53,667 --> 01:47:57,267
the I-hub. Most of which is

1351
01:47:58,501 --> 01:48:01,501
spelled out in the agreement

1352
01:48:03,434 --> 01:48:05,868
between the city. So I don't

1353
01:48:05,868 --> 01:48:08,868
anticipate a large period of

1354
01:48:09,501 --> 01:48:13,101
time. There may be some changes

1355
01:48:13,167 --> 01:48:15,567
necessary otherwise there would

1356
01:48:19,234 --> 01:48:21,667
not be a regular standing

1357
01:48:21,667 --> 01:48:22,901
committee.

1358
01:48:22,901 --> 01:48:24,100
>> okay.

1359
01:48:24,100 --> 01:48:28,300
may I offer at this point that

1360
01:48:28,968 --> 01:48:33,168
I do represent the city on v

1361
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:50,834
cva. In my mind, I think it

1362
01:48:50,834 --> 01:48:54,434
would be best to represent the

1363
01:48:54,501 --> 01:48:55,701
city in this position.

1364
01:48:55,701 --> 01:48:57,701
council member kelly?

1365
01:48:59,334 --> 01:49:01,734
>>council member kathleen kelly:

1366
01:49:05,501 --> 01:49:07,501
>> yes.

1367
01:49:20,670 --> 01:49:22,501
I know that the assignment that

1368
01:49:22,501 --> 01:49:25,501
we just approved included the

1369
01:49:29,801 --> 01:49:31,801
mayor's continuing appointment

1370
01:49:39,534 --> 01:49:42,534
as our representative to c

1371
01:49:50,467 --> 01:49:52,901
back and will council members

1372
01:49:52,901 --> 01:49:56,534
want to seek a second pointy or

1373
01:49:56,534 --> 01:49:59,534
go in a different direction?

1374
01:50:02,601 --> 01:50:04,601
>>

1375
01:50:13,467 --> 01:50:16,467
>> I'm open to whatever the

1376
01:50:17,100 --> 01:50:19,100
council decides.

1377
01:50:19,534 --> 01:50:20,767
>> thank you.

1378
01:50:20,767 --> 01:50:23,167
>>council member gina nestande:

1379
01:50:30,501 --> 01:50:32,501
>>council member karina

1380
01:50:32,901 --> 01:50:35,301
quintanilla: thank you. My

1381
01:50:35,334 --> 01:50:38,334
question is the point of

1382
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:41,434
interests and the city

1383
01:50:41,434 --> 01:50:43,868
understood and the academy. If

1384
01:50:43,868 --> 01:50:47,468
the intention is to grow more

1385
01:50:48,701 --> 01:50:52,301
of the student centered and may

1386
01:50:56,000 --> 01:51:00,800
work and I feel I have a lot

1387
01:51:00,934 --> 01:51:03,367
of experience and would serve

1388
01:51:03,367 --> 01:51:05,801
as a representative should I be

1389
01:51:05,801 --> 01:51:07,000
selected. Thank you.

1390
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:11,800
>> I do want to note and I saw

1391
01:51:13,100 --> 01:51:16,700
your eyes light up at this

1392
01:51:20,300 --> 01:51:23,900
agenda item that work with csd

1393
01:51:26,367 --> 01:51:30,567
and the academy is what we call

1394
01:51:32,467 --> 01:51:34,467
one future.

1395
01:51:37,300 --> 01:51:40,300
>> it was actually the post

1396
01:51:42,167 --> 01:51:44,601
secondary committee to see that

1397
01:51:44,601 --> 01:51:47,601
I was on the committee.

1398
01:51:48,267 --> 01:51:51,267
>> that's why and one --

1399
01:51:57,968 --> 01:52:00,968
>> however, having said that, I

1400
01:52:01,701 --> 01:52:05,301
wanted to add that clarity. I

1401
01:52:05,334 --> 01:52:07,767
think it's a great idea if you

1402
01:52:07,767 --> 01:52:11,367
would like to be on committee

1403
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,800
that would be great.

1404
01:52:13,834 --> 01:52:16,234
council member nestande, what's

1405
01:52:16,267 --> 01:52:17,501
your thought on that?

1406
01:52:17,501 --> 01:52:19,901
>>council member gina nestande:

1407
01:52:19,934 --> 01:52:23,534
I defer to you, mayor. It

1408
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:28,434
sounds like council member

1409
01:52:28,434 --> 01:52:31,434
quintanilla has spoken. So I

1410
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:35,634
don't need to debate this

1411
01:52:35,634 --> 01:52:36,868
issue. So congratulations.

1412
01:52:36,868 --> 01:52:41,680
>> great. I do think we need a

1413
01:52:41,701 --> 01:52:43,701
motion for that.

1414
01:52:47,801 --> 01:52:49,801
please.

1415
01:52:52,667 --> 01:52:55,667
>> so I move that our

1416
01:53:04,868 --> 01:53:07,300
appointees be mayor harnik and

1417
01:53:07,300 --> 01:53:08,534
council member quintanilla.

1418
01:53:08,534 --> 01:53:09,734
>> I second.

1419
01:53:09,734 --> 01:53:10,934
>> we have a motion and second.

1420
01:53:10,934 --> 01:53:12,934
>> roll call, please.

1421
01:53:15,801 --> 01:53:18,201
>>clerk: [roll call] motion

1422
01:53:41,334 --> 01:53:43,334
passes unanimously.

1423
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:05,634
a ¿bicycle rack incentive

1424
01:54:05,634 --> 01:54:06,834
program½ for private commercial

1425
01:54:06,834 --> 01:54:08,834
properties

1426
01:54:10,501 --> 01:54:12,901
>> who will be presenting?

1427
01:54:15,334 --> 01:54:17,734
>> good evening mayor and

1428
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:20,200
council. Eric for development

1429
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:23,800
services. We had a request to

1430
01:54:23,868 --> 01:54:26,268
initiate a bicycle rack

1431
01:54:39,667 --> 01:54:42,670
incentive program. With the

1432
01:54:48,167 --> 01:54:50,567
number of bicycle rack

1433
01:54:53,330 --> 01:54:55,367
improvements on san pablo, we

1434
01:54:55,367 --> 01:54:57,801
need places to also park the

1435
01:54:57,801 --> 01:55:00,300
bicycles. The incentive of this

1436
01:55:00,300 --> 01:55:03,900
program is the city would work

1437
01:55:06,367 --> 01:55:08,767
with private property owners.

1438
01:55:12,467 --> 01:55:15,467
the city would purchase bicycle

1439
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:19,100
racks and install them on-site

1440
01:55:19,734 --> 01:55:22,134
with the property owner

1441
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:24,601
maintaining them for 10 years.

1442
01:55:24,601 --> 01:55:27,330
tonight we are looking for

1443
01:55:27,330 --> 01:55:29,433
direction because we are

1444
01:55:34,334 --> 01:55:36,767
focused on areas around cv

1445
01:55:36,767 --> 01:55:40,367
link. And would like to have

1446
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:42,800
council provide some feedback

1447
01:55:42,834 --> 01:55:46,434
onseting a price limit on the

1448
01:55:50,133 --> 01:55:52,133
bicycle racks.

1449
01:55:58,634 --> 01:55:59,868
probably some consideration

1450
01:55:59,868 --> 01:56:03,567
that you may want to go with a

1451
01:56:03,567 --> 01:56:06,567
different aesthetic. We want to

1452
01:56:08,334 --> 01:56:10,734
make sure that we

1453
01:56:22,934 --> 01:56:25,334
are aware of this.

1454
01:56:25,367 --> 01:56:28,367
I stand for questions and

1455
01:56:30,234 --> 01:56:31,434
direction.

1456
01:56:31,434 --> 01:56:34,434
>> we have a question from

1457
01:56:37,534 --> 01:56:39,534
council member kelly.

1458
01:56:46,330 --> 01:56:48,330
>>council member kathleen

1459
01:56:53,334 --> 01:56:56,334
kelly: a couple of questions.

1460
01:57:04,334 --> 01:57:08,534
first question is if we set up

1461
01:57:12,834 --> 01:57:14,330
a ceiling for what this city is

1462
01:57:14,330 --> 01:57:17,633
willing to do by way of

1463
01:57:17,701 --> 01:57:20,133
incentive, could it also be a

1464
01:57:20,133 --> 01:57:23,733
part of the program that the

1465
01:57:26,133 --> 01:57:29,133
site owner would do something

1466
01:57:34,634 --> 01:57:37,634
more as decor, more compatible

1467
01:57:39,501 --> 01:57:41,501
with their --

1468
01:57:45,567 --> 01:57:48,000
>> we would design the program

1469
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:49,200
that way.

1470
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:52,200
>> the second question is, I

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01:57:52,868 --> 01:57:55,300
see that the staff report

1472
01:57:55,300 --> 01:57:57,734
requests to us supply three

1473
01:57:57,734 --> 01:58:00,200
bicycle rack options from the

1474
01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:03,800
list attached to the report. I

1475
01:58:03,868 --> 01:58:07,468
didn't come up with how many

1476
01:58:09,934 --> 01:58:13,534
options there are. And we have

1477
01:58:23,300 --> 01:58:25,300
100.

1478
01:58:26,968 --> 01:58:30,568
could it be possible to perhaps

1479
01:58:37,801 --> 01:58:41,401
for staff to narrow the field

1480
01:58:42,667 --> 01:58:45,670
space for issues of

1481
01:58:45,100 --> 01:58:46,334
practicality and design to use

1482
01:58:46,334 --> 01:58:48,734
palm desert to get some public

1483
01:58:48,734 --> 01:58:51,734
input because I think we

1484
01:58:56,330 --> 01:58:57,267
discovered what's around that

1485
01:58:57,267 --> 01:59:00,267
part that questions around what

1486
01:59:05,834 --> 01:59:10,340
people are going to see on a

1487
01:59:10,701 --> 01:59:13,101
continuing basis, really to

1488
01:59:15,567 --> 01:59:17,968
ignite public interest. So it's

1489
01:59:17,968 --> 01:59:21,634
a great way to drive people to

1490
01:59:21,634 --> 01:59:24,634
the palm desert site. Would

1491
01:59:25,267 --> 01:59:28,267
that be a possible option?

1492
01:59:30,133 --> 01:59:33,133
>> absolutely. We can do that

1493
01:59:38,634 --> 01:59:42,834
and take a look at the number

1494
01:59:44,734 --> 01:59:48,334
of bikes presented and get that

1495
01:59:50,734 --> 01:59:52,734
communication to you.

1496
01:59:53,133 --> 01:59:56,733
>> cv links will probably be a

1497
01:59:56,801 --> 01:59:58,801
great resource also.

1498
02:00:00,434 --> 02:00:03,434
>>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

1499
02:00:06,501 --> 02:00:07,734
thank you, mayor.

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02:00:07,734 --> 02:00:11,367
so I do have some feedback for

1501
02:00:11,367 --> 02:00:13,801
staff and I will hold back for

1502
02:00:13,801 --> 02:00:17,401
the appropriate time as far as

1503
02:00:19,901 --> 02:00:21,100
questions.

1504
02:00:21,100 --> 02:00:24,700
number one, good evening to you

1505
02:00:25,968 --> 02:00:27,968
sir. Thank you.

1506
02:00:29,601 --> 02:00:33,201
I indicated a cost to about 400

1507
02:00:40,534 --> 02:00:42,934
to $1,000. In my experience,

1508
02:00:42,968 --> 02:00:45,968
installation is often equal to

1509
02:00:49,670 --> 02:00:52,667
a greater cost fof finding it.

1510
02:00:56,334 --> 02:00:59,934
is your cost estimate for the

1511
02:01:00,670 --> 02:01:02,670
cost installation?

1512
02:01:02,501 --> 02:01:06,101
>> that would be for the public

1513
02:01:08,567 --> 02:01:09,767
works team.

1514
02:01:09,767 --> 02:01:11,000
>> I'm super ethiopia hear that

1515
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:13,434
because that was the second

1516
02:01:13,434 --> 02:01:17,634
question I had. Can we use our

1517
02:01:18,300 --> 02:01:21,300
own staff to do the

1518
02:01:25,567 --> 02:01:26,801
installation on private

1519
02:01:26,801 --> 02:01:28,000
property and I think you are

1520
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:29,234
saying yes?

1521
02:01:29,234 --> 02:01:32,834
>> yes, we would be drafting an

1522
02:01:34,100 --> 02:01:37,100
agreement that requests to let

1523
02:01:38,968 --> 02:01:41,968
us on to their property.

1524
02:01:47,467 --> 02:01:49,901
>> my other question is whether

1525
02:01:49,901 --> 02:01:52,334
or not staff has considered

1526
02:01:52,334 --> 02:01:55,934
allowing the use of a parking

1527
02:01:59,601 --> 02:02:02,100
space without the owner coming

1528
02:02:02,100 --> 02:02:03,334
into violation of the zoning

1529
02:02:03,334 --> 02:02:04,534
ordinance or development

1530
02:02:04,534 --> 02:02:06,534
agreement or whatever

1531
02:02:06,968 --> 02:02:09,400
restriction there are on the

1532
02:02:09,400 --> 02:02:11,834
number of parking spaces. Has

1533
02:02:11,834 --> 02:02:12,968
staff considered this program

1534
02:02:12,968 --> 02:02:14,167
to be allowed as a parking

1535
02:02:14,167 --> 02:02:17,167
space to a bike rack?

1536
02:02:19,330 --> 02:02:22,330
>> we have appropriate some of

1537
02:02:34,834 --> 02:02:37,834
our larger regional centers and

1538
02:02:38,501 --> 02:02:42,133
we will look at that on a case

1539
02:02:42,133 --> 02:02:45,767
by case basis. We want to work

1540
02:02:45,767 --> 02:02:48,200
with the property owner for the

1541
02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:51,800
location of the bicycle rack so

1542
02:02:51,868 --> 02:02:53,670
they are easily identifiable

1543
02:02:53,670 --> 02:02:56,667
and people are going to be

1544
02:02:56,734 --> 02:02:59,133
using these bicycles. We can

1545
02:02:59,133 --> 02:03:02,733
use this parking space as part

1546
02:03:02,868 --> 02:03:04,670
of that.

1547
02:03:04,670 --> 02:03:05,300
>> as part of that question,

1548
02:03:05,300 --> 02:03:08,934
you want to keep in mind the

1549
02:03:08,934 --> 02:03:10,167
process with the number of

1550
02:03:10,167 --> 02:03:12,601
bicycle riders that don't have

1551
02:03:12,601 --> 02:03:15,000
access to street parking. So

1552
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:18,600
they are limited in terms of

1553
02:03:21,100 --> 02:03:24,100
where they can put this.

1554
02:03:27,100 --> 02:03:28,300
>>

1555
02:03:28,300 --> 02:03:29,534
>>council member karina

1556
02:03:29,534 --> 02:03:31,934
quintanilla: thank you for

1557
02:03:31,968 --> 02:03:34,367
your very comprehensive list of

1558
02:03:34,367 --> 02:03:36,801
options here. In thinking of my

1559
02:03:36,801 --> 02:03:39,801
time in working with higher

1560
02:03:40,467 --> 02:03:42,867
education the university has

1561
02:03:44,100 --> 02:03:47,700
the ones that are allowable for

1562
02:03:47,767 --> 02:03:50,167
extra space. Is there some

1563
02:03:50,167 --> 02:03:52,567
installation or something that

1564
02:03:52,601 --> 02:03:55,330
was thrown into the list of

1565
02:03:55,330 --> 02:03:56,267
options?

1566
02:03:56,267 --> 02:03:59,867
>> it was a list of options.

1567
02:04:03,601 --> 02:04:04,834
>>

1568
02:04:04,834 --> 02:04:06,330
>>council member gina nestande:

1569
02:04:06,330 --> 02:04:08,467
this might be more of a

1570
02:04:08,467 --> 02:04:12,667
comment, but I will go for it.

1571
02:04:13,334 --> 02:04:15,767
for the city link, this is

1572
02:04:15,767 --> 02:04:17,000
perhaps something that our

1573
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:19,400
committee can look at our next

1574
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:22,400
meeting as well because looking

1575
02:04:24,267 --> 02:04:27,867
at -- and maybe just the

1576
02:04:27,934 --> 02:04:31,534
standard bike rack is the ideal

1577
02:04:31,567 --> 02:04:32,801
situation that can hold the

1578
02:04:32,801 --> 02:04:37,100
most bikes. I think we need to

1579
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:42,434
look at practicality to staff

1580
02:04:42,434 --> 02:04:45,434
in my opinion. Thank you.

1581
02:04:46,670 --> 02:04:48,467
>>mayor jan harnik: council

1582
02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:58,234
member kelly?

1583
02:04:58,234 --> 02:04:59,434
>>council member kathleen

1584
02:04:59,434 --> 02:05:00,734
kelly: what is staff's

1585
02:05:00,734 --> 02:05:01,934
recommendation?

1586
02:05:01,934 --> 02:05:03,167
>> we don't have a

1587
02:05:03,167 --> 02:05:05,567
recommendation. The cost of

1588
02:05:06,801 --> 02:05:09,234
those will draw the program

1589
02:05:09,234 --> 02:05:11,634
quicker. You have maximum

1590
02:05:12,868 --> 02:05:15,868
amount to spend on this.

1591
02:05:16,534 --> 02:05:18,534
>> thank you.

1592
02:05:20,167 --> 02:05:22,167
>> council member?

1593
02:05:22,601 --> 02:05:24,601
>> thank you, mayor.

1594
02:05:25,330 --> 02:05:27,433
I have another question,

1595
02:05:28,667 --> 02:05:31,670
something that is very

1596
02:05:35,968 --> 02:05:37,200
minimalistic and functional and

1597
02:05:37,200 --> 02:05:40,800
if someone wants to get a

1598
02:05:42,330 --> 02:05:43,267
little fancier.

1599
02:05:43,267 --> 02:05:45,701
>> I think we can set up the

1600
02:05:45,701 --> 02:05:46,901
program that way.

1601
02:05:46,901 --> 02:05:48,901
>> time for comments?

1602
02:05:54,133 --> 02:05:55,334
>> due to inadequate needs,

1603
02:05:55,334 --> 02:05:58,968
this is a great idea and I love

1604
02:05:58,968 --> 02:06:00,267
it.

1605
02:06:00,267 --> 02:06:03,901
I think that it occurs to me

1606
02:06:03,901 --> 02:06:06,334
that this might lend itself to

1607
02:06:06,334 --> 02:06:07,567
the subcommittee to work with

1608
02:06:07,567 --> 02:06:10,567
staff to address those details

1609
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:12,400
and I would be happy and

1610
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:16,000
something like the icon edge or

1611
02:06:16,670 --> 02:06:18,501
some of the other hedges that

1612
02:06:18,501 --> 02:06:22,133
are just for a bike rack. Even

1613
02:06:22,133 --> 02:06:24,567
the artistic ones are very

1614
02:06:24,567 --> 02:06:28,200
sturdy. There is a lot of good

1615
02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:30,600
options there and using

1616
02:06:30,634 --> 02:06:33,634
something with the icon edge

1617
02:06:34,300 --> 02:06:36,734
with an artistic manner gives

1618
02:06:36,734 --> 02:06:39,734
the owner the option of

1619
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:45,234
installing with.

1620
02:06:45,234 --> 02:06:48,834
I think this shouldn't be just

1621
02:06:50,100 --> 02:06:52,534
the high demand areas because

1622
02:06:52,534 --> 02:06:56,134
there are some areas that is

1623
02:06:57,400 --> 02:07:01,000
part of the encouraging to go

1624
02:07:01,100 --> 02:07:02,300
green these days.

1625
02:07:02,300 --> 02:07:04,667
that covers my feedback for

1626
02:07:04,667 --> 02:07:06,667
now. Thank you.

1627
02:07:07,100 --> 02:07:09,534
>>mayor jan harnik: thank you.

1628
02:07:09,534 --> 02:07:11,534
>>council member karina

1629
02:07:15,601 --> 02:07:16,801
quintanilla: thank you, mayor.

1630
02:07:16,801 --> 02:07:19,801
the policy, is that something

1631
02:07:20,467 --> 02:07:24,667
that could be added to the palm

1632
02:07:26,534 --> 02:07:27,767
desert --

1633
02:07:27,767 --> 02:07:29,767
>>council member kathleen

1634
02:07:30,200 --> 02:07:34,400
kelly: let me take a stab at

1635
02:07:37,467 --> 02:07:40,467
the motion to establish the

1636
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:49,600
subcommittee. As council member

1637
02:07:50,834 --> 02:07:52,670
stated is using the reservation

1638
02:07:52,670 --> 02:07:53,267
and motion to give the staff

1639
02:07:53,267 --> 02:07:56,867
direction is yes, we love the

1640
02:08:03,670 --> 02:08:06,667
idea, no. 2, is the city, that

1641
02:08:09,133 --> 02:08:12,733
goes for both, and thirdly, to

1642
02:08:16,434 --> 02:08:18,834
using the suggested and

1643
02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:23,600
deferring the issue of the cap

1644
02:08:27,300 --> 02:08:29,300
on subsidy.

1645
02:08:30,934 --> 02:08:32,167
>> okay.

1646
02:08:32,167 --> 02:08:34,601
>>mayor jan harnik: we have a

1647
02:08:34,601 --> 02:08:37,000
motion and second. I'm going to

1648
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:41,200
add a few comments because I do

1649
02:08:41,868 --> 02:08:45,534
also ride a bike. So let's ask

1650
02:08:45,534 --> 02:08:48,534
those bicyclist who are out

1651
02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:52,800
there and council member

1652
02:08:56,467 --> 02:08:57,667
nestande and uc davis and they

1653
02:08:57,667 --> 02:08:58,901
have bicyclist and the stands

1654
02:08:58,901 --> 02:09:00,167
and repairs and of course I

1655
02:09:00,167 --> 02:09:03,767
have pictures of all of them.

1656
02:09:13,534 --> 02:09:15,534
>> roll call, please.

1657
02:09:19,634 --> 02:09:21,634
>>clerk: [roll call]

1658
02:09:22,330 --> 02:09:24,330
>> this passes unanimously.

1659
02:09:30,467 --> 02:09:31,701
>> thank you.

1660
02:09:31,701 --> 02:09:33,701
>> next.

1661
02:09:41,400 --> 02:09:42,634
21. Request for direction on

1662
02:09:42,634 --> 02:09:43,834
the meeting format for

1663
02:09:43,834 --> 02:09:45,670
committee, commission and

1664
02:09:45,670 --> 02:09:46,267
council meetings (

1665
02:09:46,267 --> 02:09:48,701
this is for the council if you

1666
02:09:48,701 --> 02:09:51,133
would prefer to have virtual

1667
02:09:51,133 --> 02:09:53,533
meetings during the pandemic.

1668
02:09:53,567 --> 02:09:54,801
>>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

1669
02:09:54,801 --> 02:09:57,200
thank you. Yeah, I think

1670
02:09:57,200 --> 02:09:58,434
staff's recommendation makes

1671
02:09:58,434 --> 02:10:00,868
sense. I think this is a long

1672
02:10:00,868 --> 02:10:05,668
time that we are in a surge. We

1673
02:10:08,167 --> 02:10:10,601
should go to hybrid meetings

1674
02:10:10,601 --> 02:10:13,601
once the council chamber has

1675
02:10:15,434 --> 02:10:19,340
been completed and the acr and

1676
02:10:23,968 --> 02:10:25,167
omicron and some other variant.

1677
02:10:25,167 --> 02:10:26,367
>>council member gina nestande:

1678
02:10:26,367 --> 02:10:30,330
I was just going to say is that

1679
02:10:30,330 --> 02:10:33,667
I don't know if we can give

1680
02:10:33,667 --> 02:10:37,267
that option to those that want

1681
02:10:43,334 --> 02:10:44,534
to do that.

1682
02:10:44,534 --> 02:10:46,534
>>council member karina

1683
02:10:48,167 --> 02:10:50,567
quintanilla: that's what I

1684
02:10:50,601 --> 02:10:53,100
have heard from other

1685
02:10:54,267 --> 02:10:55,467
residents.

1686
02:10:55,467 --> 02:10:56,701
>> some of the flexibility

1687
02:10:56,701 --> 02:11:00,301
there. And the key thing is

1688
02:11:01,601 --> 02:11:04,601
number one keeping people safe,

1689
02:11:07,701 --> 02:11:10,133
no. 2, we have lived here for

1690
02:11:10,133 --> 02:11:11,334
decades and we have the zoom

1691
02:11:11,334 --> 02:11:13,767
format and we have to comply

1692
02:11:13,767 --> 02:11:17,400
with one or the other. We can

1693
02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:19,834
kind of modify wherever you are

1694
02:11:19,834 --> 02:11:23,434
to zoom and that level of

1695
02:11:23,501 --> 02:11:26,501
participation. So we are really

1696
02:11:29,567 --> 02:11:31,567
rather constrained.

1697
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:34,400
>> does that answer your

1698
02:11:35,634 --> 02:11:36,868
question?

1699
02:11:36,868 --> 02:11:39,300
>> yes. It does. Thank you.

1700
02:11:39,300 --> 02:11:41,734
>>mayor jan harnik: I think we

1701
02:11:41,734 --> 02:11:44,167
always have standards put in

1702
02:11:44,167 --> 02:11:47,767
place by the county or the

1703
02:11:49,000 --> 02:11:51,000
state.

1704
02:11:52,667 --> 02:11:53,868
>>

1705
02:11:53,868 --> 02:11:55,100
>>council member karina

1706
02:11:55,100 --> 02:11:57,434
quintanilla: with that, I will

1707
02:11:57,434 --> 02:11:59,834
add my comment now.

1708
02:11:59,868 --> 02:12:03,468
I think it's still the safest

1709
02:12:03,567 --> 02:12:07,167
until the surge has dropped. Is

1710
02:12:07,234 --> 02:12:09,667
there a threshold that staff

1711
02:12:09,667 --> 02:12:13,267
has for this committee but I

1712
02:12:13,300 --> 02:12:16,900
would be in favor to stay

1713
02:12:18,167 --> 02:12:20,567
virtual to preserve public

1714
02:12:25,467 --> 02:12:26,667
health.

1715
02:12:26,667 --> 02:12:30,334
>> it can be virtual and in the

1716
02:12:30,334 --> 02:12:32,767
conference room. So we have 25

1717
02:12:32,767 --> 02:12:36,367
days away from the rooms to

1718
02:12:37,601 --> 02:12:40,601
start to become available. We

1719
02:12:44,901 --> 02:12:46,133
can reevaluate that climate.

1720
02:12:46,133 --> 02:12:47,334
>>council member kathleen

1721
02:12:47,334 --> 02:12:49,767
kelly: which was just clarified

1722
02:12:49,767 --> 02:12:52,767
to keep our meetings virtual

1723
02:12:55,834 --> 02:12:58,267
until we are concurrent with

1724
02:12:58,267 --> 02:13:00,767
many of the comments that are

1725
02:13:00,767 --> 02:13:03,767
made and our committees need

1726
02:13:05,634 --> 02:13:08,634
clarity. We need that and

1727
02:13:10,501 --> 02:13:11,701
staff's recommendation is very

1728
02:13:11,701 --> 02:13:12,934
sound.

1729
02:13:12,934 --> 02:13:15,367
>>mayor jan harnik: thank you.

1730
02:13:15,367 --> 02:13:18,367
>>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

1731
02:13:20,234 --> 02:13:21,434
thank you, mayor.

1732
02:13:21,434 --> 02:13:23,834
that direction being to

1733
02:13:23,868 --> 02:13:26,268
continue with virtual meetings

1734
02:13:26,300 --> 02:13:29,900
for now with the target of

1735
02:13:32,367 --> 02:13:33,601
converting.

1736
02:13:33,601 --> 02:13:35,601
>> okay.

1737
02:13:37,234 --> 02:13:39,634
>>mayor jan harnik: it's

1738
02:13:39,667 --> 02:13:40,868
important to remain flexible

1739
02:13:40,868 --> 02:13:44,468
because who knows what the next

1740
02:13:44,534 --> 02:13:45,734
variant might be.

1741
02:13:45,734 --> 02:13:49,334
we have a motion and second.

1742
02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:51,400
>> roll call, please.

1743
02:13:56,667 --> 02:13:58,667
>>clerk: [roll call]

1744
02:14:00,400 --> 02:14:04,000
>> we are going back to public

1745
02:14:04,330 --> 02:14:06,330
hearings.

1746
02:14:17,400 --> 02:14:18,634
22. Ordinance no. 1375: amend

1747
02:14:18,634 --> 02:14:19,834
the palm desert municipal code,

1748
02:14:19,834 --> 02:14:21,834
chapter 25, modifying section

1749
02:14:28,267 --> 02:14:29,467
5.60.60 (public hearing and

1750
02:14:29,467 --> 02:14:30,701
public notice), adding section

1751
02:14:30,701 --> 02:14:32,701
25.60.160 ¿community

1752
02:14:39,200 --> 02:14:40,434
engagement,½ and chapter 5,

1753
02:14:40,434 --> 02:14:41,634
section 5.11 ¿disclosures upon

1754
02:14:41,634 --> 02:14:43,634
transfer of residential

1755
02:14:52,567 --> 02:14:53,801
property½ regulating the public

1756
02:14:53,801 --> 02:14:55,000
engagement process (1st

1757
02:14:55,000 --> 02:14:56,200
reading) (cc)

1758
02:14:56,200 --> 02:14:59,200
>> I'm sorry, madam mayor. I'm

1759
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:07,234
having technical difficulties.

1760
02:15:07,234 --> 02:15:10,234
>> this is for notifying the

1761
02:15:21,801 --> 02:15:23,330
policy of community engagement.

1762
02:15:23,330 --> 02:15:26,330
>> can you see my screen?

1763
02:15:26,667 --> 02:15:27,868
>> yes, perfect.

1764
02:15:27,868 --> 02:15:30,268
>> this is the community

1765
02:15:30,300 --> 02:15:32,300
engagement ordinance being

1766
02:15:33,968 --> 02:15:35,100
proposed.

1767
02:15:35,100 --> 02:15:37,534
early in the planning process

1768
02:15:37,534 --> 02:15:40,534
leads to better outcomes to

1769
02:15:42,400 --> 02:15:43,601
committee concerns. The

1770
02:15:43,601 --> 02:15:44,834
community engagement intended

1771
02:15:44,834 --> 02:15:48,434
to have the following. The city

1772
02:15:48,467 --> 02:15:50,867
supports increasing the public

1773
02:15:54,534 --> 02:15:55,767
notification of certain

1774
02:15:55,767 --> 02:15:57,767
developments, broadening the

1775
02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:01,800
audience and also as part of

1776
02:16:04,334 --> 02:16:05,534
the application the community

1777
02:16:05,534 --> 02:16:07,968
engagement plan to be reviewed

1778
02:16:07,968 --> 02:16:10,968
by staff to adequately closing

1779
02:16:11,634 --> 02:16:14,340
documents of long-term planning

1780
02:16:14,670 --> 02:16:16,467
efforts and potential future

1781
02:16:16,467 --> 02:16:18,467
projects including the

1782
02:16:20,133 --> 02:16:21,334
disclosures of the city's --

1783
02:16:21,334 --> 02:16:24,334
respond to public hearing and

1784
02:16:28,634 --> 02:16:30,634
public notifications.

1785
02:16:37,133 --> 02:16:39,533
so, our section 25.60.060, with

1786
02:16:39,567 --> 02:16:43,167
what 300 feet is which is what

1787
02:16:43,234 --> 02:16:46,234
is required and the new

1788
02:16:46,868 --> 02:16:48,000
requirement.

1789
02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:50,434
the developers are required to

1790
02:16:50,434 --> 02:16:52,834
submit a community engagement

1791
02:16:52,868 --> 02:16:55,300
plan for projects 5 acres or

1792
02:16:55,300 --> 02:16:59,500
more. That is done at the time

1793
02:17:00,234 --> 02:17:01,434
-- a method of communication

1794
02:17:01,434 --> 02:17:02,667
with the public and locations

1795
02:17:02,667 --> 02:17:05,670
for the public outreach to take

1796
02:17:05,670 --> 02:17:08,667
place. It is also a requirement

1797
02:17:11,167 --> 02:17:13,567
to submit any package.

1798
02:17:13,601 --> 02:17:16,330
the requirement is one meeting

1799
02:17:16,330 --> 02:17:19,330
at minimum with follow up

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02:17:19,667 --> 02:17:22,667
meetings as directed by the

1801
02:17:23,300 --> 02:17:24,534
department of services and

1802
02:17:24,534 --> 02:17:26,934
project engagement with the

1803
02:17:28,167 --> 02:17:29,400
public.

1804
02:17:29,400 --> 02:17:31,800
the notification of the

1805
02:17:31,834 --> 02:17:34,234
meetings will include a

1806
02:17:34,267 --> 02:17:36,667
thousand notifications as well

1807
02:17:37,901 --> 02:17:40,901
and how those concerns are

1808
02:17:41,534 --> 02:17:43,534
being met.

1809
02:17:45,200 --> 02:17:47,200
the third ordinance

1810
02:17:47,634 --> 02:17:48,834
recommendation is any

1811
02:17:48,834 --> 02:17:50,670
residential property located

1812
02:17:50,670 --> 02:17:53,667
within our city is to deliver

1813
02:17:53,701 --> 02:17:56,101
the prospective buyer through

1814
02:17:57,334 --> 02:17:58,567
closing documents, the real

1815
02:17:58,567 --> 02:18:00,967
estate tax disclosure, the

1816
02:18:00,968 --> 02:18:03,400
resale of homes in older

1817
02:18:03,400 --> 02:18:05,800
subdivisions to benefit from

1818
02:18:05,834 --> 02:18:08,234
awareness of likely development

1819
02:18:14,334 --> 02:18:16,334
in the vicinity.

1820
02:18:16,767 --> 02:18:18,000
this concludes the staff

1821
02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:19,200
report.

1822
02:18:19,200 --> 02:18:20,434
>> thank you so much.

1823
02:18:20,434 --> 02:18:24,340
I see two hands for questions.

1824
02:18:25,267 --> 02:18:27,267
>>council member karina

1825
02:18:27,701 --> 02:18:30,101
quintanilla: would anyone like

1826
02:18:30,133 --> 02:18:32,533
attendance sheets be required

1827
02:18:33,801 --> 02:18:35,000
or sign in sheets? I believe

1828
02:18:35,000 --> 02:18:38,600
that was brought up in a

1829
02:18:39,868 --> 02:18:41,670
previous conversation.

1830
02:18:41,670 --> 02:18:43,501
>> so part of those meetings,

1831
02:18:43,501 --> 02:18:45,934
city staff will have to

1832
02:18:45,934 --> 02:18:47,167
participate. City staff will be

1833
02:18:47,167 --> 02:18:50,801
there and if it is an in person

1834
02:18:50,801 --> 02:18:53,234
meeting, there will be those

1835
02:18:53,234 --> 02:18:54,467
sign in sheets. There is no

1836
02:18:54,467 --> 02:18:56,868
requirement of the number of

1837
02:18:56,868 --> 02:18:59,868
people that will show up.

1838
02:19:09,100 --> 02:19:11,100
>>council member kathleen

1839
02:19:13,868 --> 02:19:16,300
kelly: we essentially -- is

1840
02:19:16,300 --> 02:19:17,534
that correct?

1841
02:19:17,534 --> 02:19:18,734
>> that's correct.

1842
02:19:18,734 --> 02:19:22,334
>> what I see in the staff

1843
02:19:29,667 --> 02:19:30,901
requirement that resale of

1844
02:19:30,901 --> 02:19:33,901
homes would lead to the

1845
02:19:35,767 --> 02:19:38,767
disclosure called for. It's not

1846
02:19:41,834 --> 02:19:43,834
the 5 acres issue.

1847
02:19:44,267 --> 02:19:47,867
what I'm looking at in page 5,

1848
02:19:52,767 --> 02:19:55,167
clarifying that the new

1849
02:19:55,200 --> 02:19:57,600
language on disclosures only

1850
02:19:58,868 --> 02:20:00,868
applies to new.

1851
02:20:03,701 --> 02:20:06,701
>> also wanted to provide the

1852
02:20:09,801 --> 02:20:12,201
opportunity to have, for

1853
02:20:15,868 --> 02:20:17,868
example, for

1854
02:20:18,300 --> 02:20:19,501
today.

1855
02:20:19,501 --> 02:20:21,901
>> thank you. That's helpful.

1856
02:20:30,367 --> 02:20:31,601
>> thank you.

1857
02:20:31,601 --> 02:20:35,201
>> when this issue came up, of

1858
02:20:37,667 --> 02:20:40,667
course it was enforcement and

1859
02:20:42,534 --> 02:20:45,534
when the california real estate

1860
02:20:53,467 --> 02:20:56,467
disclosure and fire risk, with

1861
02:20:57,100 --> 02:21:00,700
this issue and directed to the

1862
02:21:03,267 --> 02:21:06,267
city's website and ends up

1863
02:21:06,901 --> 02:21:10,501
building their own home. If you

1864
02:21:10,534 --> 02:21:13,534
follow the state law that

1865
02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:15,400
already has the format. So

1866
02:21:15,400 --> 02:21:19,000
that's why it went this way.

1867
02:21:20,267 --> 02:21:23,267
it's something that is already

1868
02:21:25,133 --> 02:21:28,733
there and we can develop this

1869
02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:33,634
straight forward for that to

1870
02:21:33,634 --> 02:21:34,834
happen.

1871
02:21:34,834 --> 02:21:37,834
>>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:

1872
02:21:38,501 --> 02:21:39,634
thank you.

1873
02:21:39,634 --> 02:21:43,234
so, item 5. That is under scope

1874
02:21:44,501 --> 02:21:47,501
of regulations. It says the

1875
02:21:56,634 --> 02:21:59,340
following.. And something that

1876
02:22:13,734 --> 02:22:15,734
wouldn't create basically

1877
02:22:17,367 --> 02:22:18,601
unlimited power.

1878
02:22:18,601 --> 02:22:19,801
>> how to correct this or

1879
02:22:19,801 --> 02:22:22,234
revise this if the council

1880
02:22:22,234 --> 02:22:24,634
wishes. The thought process

1881
02:22:24,667 --> 02:22:28,267
really was to see what kind

1882
02:22:30,734 --> 02:22:31,968
those community members are,

1883
02:22:31,968 --> 02:22:35,601
what are we going to see from

1884
02:22:35,601 --> 02:22:38,330
our backyard. So they already

1885
02:22:38,330 --> 02:22:40,467
provide those line of site. So

1886
02:22:40,467 --> 02:22:41,667
we just wanted to reserve our

1887
02:22:41,667 --> 02:22:45,267
right to be able to request

1888
02:22:47,767 --> 02:22:50,767
those various kinds to really

1889
02:22:51,400 --> 02:22:53,400
help and assist.

1890
02:22:54,968 --> 02:22:56,200
>> let me help you direct your

1891
02:22:56,200 --> 02:22:57,400
answer to my question.

1892
02:22:57,400 --> 02:22:59,400
>> sure.

1893
02:22:59,834 --> 02:23:01,100
>> I understand what developers

1894
02:23:01,100 --> 02:23:04,100
provide and what they don't

1895
02:23:05,968 --> 02:23:07,200
provide. This particular

1896
02:23:07,200 --> 02:23:10,800
provision -- staff is not cost

1897
02:23:15,701 --> 02:23:17,701
conscious, right? A

1898
02:23:18,133 --> 02:23:19,334
3-dimensional plan can cost,

1899
02:23:19,334 --> 02:23:21,767
has staff considered some kind

1900
02:23:21,767 --> 02:23:24,167
of limitation on this

1901
02:23:24,200 --> 02:23:26,600
open-ended authority for staff

1902
02:23:29,670 --> 02:23:31,467
to request additional items.

1903
02:23:33,934 --> 02:23:38,134
>> to give me a week or so

1904
02:23:44,868 --> 02:23:47,300
with staff. To address the

1905
02:23:47,300 --> 02:23:48,501
concerns that are being

1906
02:23:48,501 --> 02:23:49,734
generated to the city council

1907
02:23:49,734 --> 02:23:53,334
this last year. I'm not quite

1908
02:23:54,601 --> 02:23:55,801
sure how that procedurally

1909
02:23:55,801 --> 02:23:58,234
require that before we take it

1910
02:23:58,234 --> 02:24:01,934
to the city council. I tend to

1911
02:24:01,934 --> 02:24:05,501
agree with you. This is not

1912
02:24:05,501 --> 02:24:08,501
intended to be a bureaucratic

1913
02:24:11,601 --> 02:24:13,601
backstop.

1914
02:24:27,400 --> 02:24:29,800
>>council member kathleen kelly:

1915
02:24:32,234 --> 02:24:34,634
mayor pro tem jonathan's

1916
02:24:38,334 --> 02:24:40,334
suggestion, because certainly

1917
02:24:45,634 --> 02:24:49,234
can -- the rails for the

1918
02:24:51,701 --> 02:24:54,101
perspective. We'll find the

1919
02:24:56,567 --> 02:24:58,567
middle ground.

1920
02:25:00,267 --> 02:25:02,267
>> our next meeting.

1921
02:25:03,901 --> 02:25:06,334
>> that will end the public

1922
02:25:06,334 --> 02:25:08,334
hearing.

1923
02:25:08,767 --> 02:25:10,767
>> good point.

1924
02:25:11,200 --> 02:25:12,434
>>

1925
02:25:12,434 --> 02:25:16,340
>>mayor jan harnik: so why --

1926
02:25:17,300 --> 02:25:18,501
or do we have to open the

1927
02:25:18,501 --> 02:25:22,101
public hearing if we are going

1928
02:25:25,801 --> 02:25:28,234
to continue it? Mr. Hargrave?

1929
02:25:28,234 --> 02:25:31,834
>> if we know we are coming

1930
02:25:31,868 --> 02:25:36,680
back in 2 weeks, we go to a

1931
02:25:37,934 --> 02:25:40,334
public hearing. And then

1932
02:25:42,801 --> 02:25:45,234
continue to a date certain so

1933
02:25:45,234 --> 02:25:47,667
that way we don't have to

1934
02:25:47,667 --> 02:25:48,901
renotice it.

1935
02:25:48,901 --> 02:25:50,100
>> why don't we do that to

1936
02:25:50,100 --> 02:25:52,534
speak on it at this point.

1937
02:25:52,534 --> 02:25:53,734
unless there are additional

1938
02:25:53,734 --> 02:25:57,334
questions of staff, I will open

1939
02:25:59,834 --> 02:26:01,834
the public hearing.

1940
02:26:03,534 --> 02:26:05,968
and now why don't we move to

1941
02:26:05,968 --> 02:26:08,968
continue this to the next

1942
02:26:10,834 --> 02:26:12,330
meeting.

1943
02:26:12,330 --> 02:26:14,330
>> second.

1944
02:26:19,334 --> 02:26:22,934
>> we have a motion and second.

1945
02:26:22,968 --> 02:26:27,168
can we please have a roll call

1946
02:26:29,670 --> 02:26:31,670
vote.

1947
02:26:32,634 --> 02:26:33,834
>>clerk: [roll call]

1948
02:26:33,834 --> 02:26:36,234
>> motion to continue passes

1949
02:26:48,434 --> 02:26:49,634
5-0.

1950
02:26:49,634 --> 02:26:52,340
>> that public hearing remains

1951
02:26:53,267 --> 02:26:55,701
open at our next meeting.

1952
02:26:55,701 --> 02:26:59,301
that marks the end of our

1953
02:26:59,367 --> 02:27:02,367
meeting except for city manager

1954
02:27:03,670 --> 02:27:04,300
comments.

1955
02:27:04,300 --> 02:27:06,734
>> I have no comments tonight,

1956
02:27:06,734 --> 02:27:07,934
mayor.

1957
02:27:07,934 --> 02:27:10,934
>> thank you. And seeing no

1958
02:27:12,801 --> 02:27:14,000
unfinished business, this

1959
02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:16,000
meeting stands adjourned.