[2:29] >>mayor jan harnik: I will now
[2:33] reconvene the city council
[2:37] successor agency meeting of
[2:46] thursday january 13, 2022.
[2:48] can we have roll call, please.
[2:56] >>clerk:
[3:07] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:
[3:11] present
[3:15] >>council member kathleen
[3:16] kelly: here
[3:18] >>council member gina nestande:
[3:20] here
[3:21] >>council member karina
[3:22] quintanilla: present
[3:23] >>mayor jan harnik: here.
[3:24] all present.
[3:26] thank you so much.
[3:29] >> we'll have the pledge of
[3:51] allegiance by staff.
[3:52] >>council member gina nestande:
[4:02] thank you.
[4:03] >> I pledge allegiance to the
[4:05] flag of the united states of
[4:06] america and to the republic for
[4:07] which it stands, one nation,
[4:08] under god, indivisible, with
[4:09] liberty and justice for all.
[4:26] >> thank you so much.
[4:36] we'll now have a little
[4:48] inspiration. I thought I would
[4:59] do a little refresher for us. I
[5:03] think everybody knows it but
[5:07] it's our mission statement and
[5:10] our palm desert community
[5:13] statement which is a great
[5:17] product from a wide -- the
[5:30] mission statement says the city
[5:37] of palm desert provides
[5:38] amenities and programs for the
[5:42] community. Our vision
[5:43] statement, palm desert is the
[5:47] heart of california's coachella
[5:50] valley. Palm desert's quality
[5:55] of life offers -- residents and
[6:05] visitors of all ages a wide
[6:16] array of educational and
[6:19] opportunities as well as arts
[6:30] and cultural activities and
[6:32] world class events in a
[6:36] uniquely and beautiful desert
[6:43] environment. This is a thriving
[7:02] safe and sustainable community
[7:13] that attracts innovative
[7:19] employers and synergistic
[7:21] educational partners.
[7:29] we rocked that in 2014 and it's
[7:40] still good.
[7:41] do we have a report from closed
[7:46] session?
[7:54] >> yes, we do. With respect to
[7:57] the agenda on the first item a
[8:02] 1 on family development, no
[8:10] action was taken.
[8:15] no reportable action nor
[8:19] direction was given.
[8:20] on the second item, with
[8:23] respect to the refuge that
[8:28] council unanimously authorized
[8:32] the purchase and sale agreement
[8:34] for the property described on
[8:37] the agenda and that agreement
[8:38] will be available to the public
[8:42] once it is finalized.
[8:46] that's all. We have. Thank
[8:59] you very much.
[9:00] >> thank you so much.
[9:02] >> we'll go mayor and council
[9:04] member reports and request for
[9:06] action. You can do them at
[9:13] once.
[9:22] so may I start please with
[9:24] council member kelly.
[9:28] >>council member kathleen kelly:
[9:35] thank you.
[9:38] I have nothing this evening for
[9:44] the general --
[9:52] >> I find that tremendously
[9:55] hard to believe but okay.
[9:59] council member nestande?
[10:02] >>council member gina nestande:
[10:07] mayor, thank you.
[10:09] I have nothing this evening to
[10:13] share as well. I appreciate
[10:18] your asking.
[10:20] >> okay.
[10:25] council member quintanilla?
[10:28] >>council member karina
[10:30] quintanilla: thank you mayor.
[10:36] I luckily have plenty of things
[10:38] to say so I will fill up that
[10:52] time.
[10:53] the mccallam education meeting.
[10:56] that was wonderful in hearing
[10:59] how many children have access
[11:01] to arts and social learning.
[11:04] they were able to reach 4500
[11:14] students and 165 classrooms and
[11:18] hearing the testimonials of
[11:20] teachers in the classroom was
[11:26] very rewarding.
[11:34] they
[11:40] have called to do. That is
[11:46] going on the 14. You can apply
[11:58] by january 19th. Art and public
[12:01] places will now be cultural
[12:03] arts committee. We were looking
[12:08] at the budget. And did convey
[12:16] to them where we stand with the
[12:18] discussion of the first
[12:19] committee. I want to report
[12:20] that we did have the
[12:23] resignation of a long standing
[12:26] member. And my deepest
[12:44] gratitude. She was on several
[12:47] commissions. I know she will be
[12:54] missed. If you are watching, I
[12:59] send lots of love and you will
[13:02] be missed.
[13:05] I have a request. At san pablo,
[13:08] when I go and visit and
[13:10] sometimes chat with the
[13:13] different merchants, I have
[13:14] seen that we need some sort of
[13:19] blinking light for pedestrians
[13:21] to cross from one end to the
[13:25] other. I have seen cars have a
[13:31] difficult time making a left
[13:35] turn. So I have seen drivers
[13:38] make a u-turn. So looking at
[13:43] the safety fact of that
[13:49] particular intersection of san
[13:52] pablo.
[13:53] I also want to have a request
[13:54] of staff to see if we can look
[14:00] at where the $25 million
[14:13] that is allocated for community
[14:17] resilience designated for
[14:18] agreement heat if we can
[14:22] capture those for palm desert
[14:27] given that we get some extreme
[14:34] heat. With that, I will pass
[14:39] that on, mayor.
[14:40] >>
[14:41] >>mayor jan harnik: thank you.
[14:43] I think we all owe gratitude to
[14:54] -- she's given a lot over the
[14:56] years.
[14:58] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:
[15:02] thank you, mayor.
[15:05] to my colleagues, I also made
[15:20] meetings and the desert willow
[15:26] management -- that took place
[15:30] earlier this week as many of
[15:37] us recall. We contract with
[15:40] sports for the management with
[15:46] desert willow. The 5-year term
[16:00] is up soon and the city put up
[16:05] the contract for request for
[16:10] proposal. And the city
[16:22] conducted interviews earlier
[16:24] this week and the process is
[16:26] moving forward.
[16:27] I have no request for action.
[16:31] thank you.
[16:32] >>
[16:40] >> great, thank you.
[16:43] I have a couple of comments I
[16:44] would like to make.
[16:48] first, I don't know if anybody
[16:53] else noticed but we have a
[16:55] tremendous up tick in graffiti
[16:57] throughout our city, and I
[17:00] think our public works
[17:01] department does a great job at
[17:06] immediately getting the
[17:10] graffiti abate mentment team
[17:18] out there but it is a
[17:21] significant increase. Please
[17:22] watch for that. And we do have
[17:28] the palm desert app that you
[17:35] can all have on your phone. The
[17:40] team will get out there and
[17:48] eradicate graffiti. We need to
[17:51] make that happen. So please
[17:56] paying attention to that and
[17:59] please help to be sure our city
[18:02] remains clean like it should be.
[18:18] the other thing I'm going to
[18:23] remind everybody is
[18:25] international holocaust
[18:26] remembrance day is thursday the
[18:31] 27.
[18:38] at 1:00.
[18:40] there will be a remembrance
[18:42] ceremony in our civic center
[18:48] park here in palm desert.
[19:05] and it's an important occasion
[19:08] and something we need to all
[19:11] think about.
[19:16] also, january 17th.
[19:20] martin luther king jr. So there
[19:22] is another day that is worth
[19:23] sitting and thinking about what
[19:26] it takes to be who we are as a
[19:31] nation.
[19:38] I also wanted to mention that
[19:42] at our lasts meeting which was
[19:45] december 16th, our then mayor
[19:50] kelly requested that we have a
[19:59] discussion on this agenda
[20:01] regarding the districting
[20:02] issue. I don't mean the census
[20:11] districting.
[20:19] but if we should put something
[20:23] on the ballot. Unfortunately
[20:29] with the planned vacations and
[20:34] covid surge, we didn't have
[20:35] enough time to go about that in
[20:37] a proper way. It will be on the
[20:45] agenda january 27th. I want to
[20:48] be sure for those who want to
[20:51] weigh in that we'll have that
[20:58] opportunity on january 27th. It
[21:02] will be on the agenda.
[21:04] so I apologize to council
[21:08] member kelly, who I know it was
[21:16] important to you, but between
[21:20] covid and the holidays, that's
[21:21] what happened. So we will get
[21:24] that back right on back on the
[21:28] agenda.
[21:37] I hope everybody had meaningful
[21:39] holidays and let's make 2022
[21:44] healthy and happy and dynamic.
[21:56] so now we'll go to non-agenda
[21:59] public comments.
[22:00] first I would like to give our
[22:03] clerk an opportunity to talk
[22:07] about how to participate.
[22:46] >>clerk: thank you. If you
[22:49] would like to participate in
[22:52] public comment, please raise
[22:57] your hand to speak.
[23:02] when you are called upon, press
[23:04] star 6 to unmute your line.
[23:11] please state your comments and
[23:12] state your name for the record.
[23:14] >>mayor jan harnik: I want to
[23:15] note this is an opportunity to
[23:19] address issues that are not on
[23:23] the agenda. If anybody would
[23:26] like to speak at this time.
[23:35] I do see a hand raised. I also
[23:37] want to make note that the
[23:40] brown act does not allow any of
[23:43] the bodies that are meeting
[23:47] today to respond to comments
[23:51] that are not on the agenda, but
[23:56] we will refer the matter to
[24:03] staff or record a
[24:07] recommendation.
[24:16] so our first speaker. We have
[24:20] joanne speer. Would you like to
[24:26] address the council?
[24:33] >>clerk: joanne speer, you have
[24:38] 3 minutes.
[24:39] public speaker: okay, thank
[24:41] you for taking my comments.
[24:53] and I'm wondering why we are
[24:55] spending so much time on
[24:58] redistricting for two districts
[25:01] when going to a five district
[25:11] 5th district system now
[25:13] provides local and fair
[25:16] representation for all parts of
[25:19] palm desert. And I do
[25:24] acknowledge that this is being
[25:38] put on the agenda for the next
[25:40] meeting. Thank you very much.
[25:45] >> thank you.
[25:52] is there anyone else? I see
[26:08] luis --
[26:32] public speaker: being this is
[26:35] your first public hearing and 2
[26:37] weeks from tonight is the
[26:40] second public hearing and we'll
[26:42] have our chance to review --
[27:28] and the third public hearing,
[27:32] the final draft map published
[27:34] on the 17, and we have the
[27:40] third.
[27:46] and fourth public hearing for
[27:50] the final map to approve that
[27:55] final map and the deadline for
[28:02] the final approval is april
[28:04] 17th and we go to november
[28:07] election.
[28:08] that concludes my presentation.
[28:10] it's fairly straight forward.
[28:14] it is dictated by state law.
[28:32] there was the question about
[28:38] this and so I'm happy to answer
[28:40] any questions about this
[28:41] process. I would love to take
[28:42] the input of both public and
[28:45] the council in this mapping
[28:46] process. Thank you very much
[28:50] for your time.
[28:58] >> thank you so much.
[29:03] okay. We'll have questions now.
[29:07] the first question is council
[29:10] member quintanilla.
[29:27] >> thank you, mayor.
[29:30] thank you for the presentation.
[29:32] I have questions in regards to
[29:35] the mapping software. Are there
[29:38] plans to do maybe a tutorial in
[29:44] advance. The last time it was
[29:46] not an easy process and I'm
[29:52] wondering if you can either
[29:54] share this, if it's optimized
[29:59] for the other systems and if
[30:01] the map is available. If we can
[30:07] get that answer.
[30:14] and my second question would be
[30:16] what is the proper for the
[30:20] paper maps because some prefer
[30:23] drawing their paper maps. Is
[30:28] that all -- also something that
[30:40] will be provided at the other
[30:44] meeting?
[30:45] >> yes. Thank you for the
[30:48] question. I have been involved
[30:56] in districting process and
[30:58] without software it can be very
[31:02] difficult to submit draft maps.
[31:13] so our mapping tool is very
[31:17] intuitive. There will be
[31:18] instructions given.
[31:23] as far as the tutorial goes, I
[31:25] will have to refer to the clerk
[31:29] for that, but having used it,
[31:32] it's very intuitive. I believe
[31:37] it's available both on a
[31:41] desktop or laptop as well as
[31:46] mobile. I will have to come
[31:47] back to confirm that forks. As
[31:51] far as paper maps, I will put
[31:57] that question to the clerk.
[32:27] >> the question was that some
[32:30] may not have access to that. Is
[32:34] there a possibility that we can
[32:47] have some of the presentations
[32:49] held at a school and available
[32:55] to residents. Thank you.
[33:06] >> from a legal perspective,
[33:09] there is nothing that holds the
[33:11] city from making any number of
[33:17] workshops at any location in
[33:19] the city.
[33:23] >> thank you.
[33:26] >> thank you.
[33:29] >> council member kelly?
[33:40] >> it looks like ms. Harnik has
[33:45] some information to share which
[33:50] is not why I raised my hand,
[33:58] but --
[34:00] >> yeah, that's correct.
[34:01] there was a couple of questions
[34:02] in there. I do want to note
[34:08] that the first work we'll go
[34:13] over the mapping tool and how
[34:14] to use that. That is one of the
[34:15] things that is going to be
[34:19] discussed there as
[34:20] demonstrating how to use that.
[34:31] it is available on a website.
[34:32] so I have that information
[34:34] there. I don't have the rest of
[34:37] the answers.
[34:38] >> all right. Thank you very
[34:41] much.
[34:52] >>council member kathleen
[34:54] kelly: thank you. I'm glad you
[34:57] moved back to this slide
[34:58] because that is what I wanted
[35:02] to talk about.
[35:05] this slide issays that at our
[35:14] next council meeting, we will
[35:20] review and consider tract maps
[35:31] and the written staff report as
[35:39] they schedule which says next
[35:49] to january 27th, held prior to
[35:57] the release of tract map.
[36:07] so I'm confused about what we
[36:11] will or will not have tract
[36:18] maps at next council meeting
[36:33] >> if I can again ask the
[36:39] clerk, I know that -- if our
[36:50] process is to review tract maps
[36:52] at the second public hearing,
[36:55] but I want to make sure I'm in
[37:00] line with staff's plan for this
[37:02] meeting. I will also ask the
[37:04] clerk to chime in there.
[37:08] >> the written staff report you
[37:09] have is consistent with the
[37:13] first timeline that was
[37:21] presented at city council.
[37:37] is that what we are to assume
[37:42] is the accurate timeline?
[37:48] >> you know, frankly --
[38:10] >> so we know that the public
[38:17] knows what to expect when. So
[38:29] what is accomplished and
[38:39] clarity. My way of thinking,
[38:40] this is for a second
[38:48] introductory session. So if we
[39:01] do the tract map, but as I
[39:02] said, we need to figure out how
[39:08] to make sure that our
[39:21] communications are clear.
[39:23] >> our intent and our practice
[39:28] is to have the draft maps
[39:35] available for review at the
[39:40] second public hearing.
[39:41] and that is the plan is to have
[39:46] it a draft map at the second
[39:53] public hearing.
[39:54] the public has the ability to
[39:57] submit draft maps all the way
[39:59] up to the third public hearing.
[40:11] there is a longer window to put
[40:16] together their draft maps to
[40:18] consider. But you will have a
[40:24] draft map that complies with
[40:30] all of the requirements, the
[40:33] settlement agreements and with
[40:36] the input we receive tonight
[40:41] and the intent there is to give
[40:47] both the council and the public
[40:54] enough time to mole over that
[40:58] draft map and make any tweaks
[41:07] with their own submitted draft
[41:10] maps to kind of again have more
[41:12] time for that part of the
[41:15] process as it really is the
[41:17] most important part of this
[41:22] process.
[41:23] >> thank you. That was clear.
[41:27] we just might need to scrub
[41:34] what is out -- to be sure it's
[41:41] consistent.
[41:45] >> thank you. Good catch.
[41:51] council member nestande?
[41:52] >>council member gina nestande:
[41:57] thank you, mayor.
[41:58] mr. Richardson, I just wanted
[42:01] to say our city of palm desert
[42:09] is 50,000 population, and doing
[42:18] like a redistricting of a big
[42:24] city like los angeles, almost
[42:28] seems to be an easier job to
[42:42] do. As palm desert, can we
[42:46] redraw these maps as some sort
[42:48] of priority. Should they be
[42:49] looking at the homes that are
[42:56] unique in golf courses, that
[42:59] are gated. We have 55 plus, we
[43:07] have 55 plus in manufactured
[43:13] home communities. So we are
[43:15] somewhat unique in a lot of
[43:16] work that you are doing in
[43:23] redistricting.
[43:25] so, it just seems so wrong and
[43:32] I would hope that we can give
[43:36] the public some more fine
[43:38] tuning tools to more prioritize
[43:40] this as they draw these maps.
[43:43] I'm not sure if you are aware
[43:45] of this or not, but the city of
[43:50] palm desert, north frank
[44:10] sinatra drive, is in the desert
[44:15] sanders school district. That
[44:16] is one that pops in my mind for
[44:19] community of interest. Thank
[44:24] you. Those of my comments.
[44:27] >> if I can respond briefly to
[44:29] that. I think you've nailed the
[44:32] primary issue on the head when
[44:35] it comes to redistricting.
[44:36] actually while we certainly
[44:42] have worked with bigger
[44:44] jurisdictions, most of our
[44:50] clients are small to mid-size
[44:53] cities just like palm desert. I
[44:58] serve the city attorney as well
[45:02] and just like palm desert in
[45:06] terms of being served by
[45:14] multiple school districts,
[45:15] having hoa's. Those are pretty
[45:20] distinct areas in the city.
[45:21] that is exactly what we want to
[45:25] look at.
[45:26] unfortunately the fair maps act
[45:28] which is the law that informs
[45:32] what we do isn't that specific
[45:40] with the criteria. So we know
[45:42] that the districts have to be
[45:48] geographically contiguous. It
[45:52] can't look like an octopus with
[45:57] tentacles.
[45:58] we know they have to be
[46:02] compact, right. But the bulk of
[46:05] our work is going to be exactly
[46:10] like you articulated. 55 plus
[46:12] communities that are clustered
[46:15] together and gated communities
[46:19] and hoa's and breaking up those
[46:26] types of communities up
[46:27] probably isn't consistent with
[46:29] the fair maps act.
[46:33] so the communities job and the
[46:39] council's job is to articulate
[46:44] where those boundaries are,
[46:45] what those communities are that
[46:48] you don't want to break up as
[46:51] you redraw the lines between
[46:54] these two districts.
[46:57] that school district line -- if
[47:11] there is specificity what you
[47:18] just articulated is exactly the
[47:21] rule that we want to be looking
[47:27] at. Do you have specific and
[47:34] distinct communities that
[47:38] shouldn't be separated.
[47:41] that's what the fair maps act
[47:44] wants us to look at when we are
[47:48] separating those into
[47:50] boundaries. Sometimes we have
[47:52] to separate them, but often you
[47:53] can keep them together because
[47:56] they should be together. I hope
[47:58] that answers the question.
[48:02] >> thank you, mr. Richardson.
[48:06] >> I think it would be helpful.
[48:19] although I'm not sure if it's
[48:29] going to help. That should be
[48:33] at the next meeting for sure.
[48:43] >> council member quintanilla?
[48:44] >>council member karina
[48:46] quintanilla: thank you, mayor.
[48:47] from the school district, there
[48:49] is no possible way that it
[48:55] could be now away from the
[49:04] north district issue. Unless
[49:09] mr. Richardson, I'm mistaken
[49:12] but with we do get to the
[49:15] boundary districts to keep that
[49:16] in mind. Thank you.
[49:18] >> are there any other
[49:26] questions? Then we'll open
[49:59] the public hearing and ask if
[50:03] there are any comments anyone
[50:06] would like to make? I don't
[50:12] see any.
[50:14] I wonder if our clerk see's
[50:17] any?
[50:18] >> I'm not aware of any.
[50:19] >> I don't see any either.
[50:24] okay.
[50:25] then I will close the public
[50:29] hearing and we will have any
[50:48] discussion needed at this time
[51:02] from council? No?
[51:03] >> I do have the request or the
[51:13] desire so when we have some of
[51:16] these sections that the
[51:19] location is identified to give
[51:22] residents access to use
[51:28] computers so we are not worried
[51:31] about whether or not the access
[51:32] they have in their home is
[51:35] equitable for them to
[51:37] participate. This is democracy
[51:39] after all. I hope the city will
[51:42] keep that in mind and create
[51:45] some of these opportunities
[51:49] either the middle school or
[51:51] high school, a place that is
[51:56] centrally located, if not the
[51:59] library. Thank you.
[52:04] >> I see ms. Horning taking
[52:15] notes.
[52:33] I will entertain a motion at
[52:34] this time.
[52:35] >> one more comment. Basically
[52:40] as we'll draft the first map
[52:50] and that is similar and we have
[52:52] to add the population to
[52:56] district 1. The one thing to
[52:58] understand is at the lower end
[53:07] of the range and the middle end
[53:09] and the high end.
[53:14] >> thank you.
[53:15] I see a hand up.
[53:19] council member kelly, do you
[53:23] have a comment?
[53:28] >>council member kathleen
[53:29] kelly: yeah. The key objective
[53:36] should not be a set number.
[53:40] that would make it easy for
[53:42] you, but that's not really
[53:47] helpful.
[53:51] what I said in december, I will
[53:59] say again. This is established
[54:04] to come as close as possible to
[54:17] the district in palm desert. So
[54:20] the priority is to receive that
[54:27] identity. And might come at the
[54:33] low range and might come at the
[54:43] high end of range.
[54:53] >> council member quintanilla?
[54:54] >>council member karina
[54:55] quintanilla: I echo the
[54:56] sentiment that there is no
[55:02] magic number that should be our
[55:05] goal. I appreciate that you
[55:07] want some guidance and aiming
[55:10] for the middle would be a good
[55:13] guidance but because we can't
[55:18] say fix -- I think the
[55:24] importance of keeping the
[55:27] contiguous boundaries and
[55:28] communities of interest is only
[55:29] the priority and what makes
[55:34] sense for the community. When I
[55:44] was canvassing, I was in
[55:55] monterey and residents didn't
[55:58] know what was here.
[56:03] so I echo the previous mayor,
[56:06] council member and somewhere in
[56:07] the middle but that we can't
[56:10] necessarily give a number to
[56:13] start. I know that's not as
[56:15] helpful and you came for
[56:19] direction but I think somewhere
[56:27] in the middle, but we can't
[56:29] give an exact number.
[56:31] >> I think I heard the
[56:32] direction loud and clear. It's
[56:38] very very clear.
[56:40] >>>
[56:42] >>mayor jan harnik: are there
[56:44] any other questions or
[56:46] additional direction that might
[56:48] be helpful, mr. Richardson?
[56:52] >> I think I'm good. Thank you
[56:53] very much for your time.
[57:03] and your input. I look forward
[57:05] to have a new map to look at.
[57:10] >> thank you.
[57:11] we do need a motion.
[57:15] >> I make a motion to approve.
[57:17] mr. Richardson to come back
[57:18] with a map to approve it at his
[57:31] earliest timeframe.
[57:32] >> we have a motion and second.
[57:36] >> roll call, please.
[57:37] >> I just ask, is it important
[57:48] to follow of the last promotion
[57:50] that we receive the report and
[57:52] so forth. I didn't hear that in
[57:54] the motion. I don't know if
[57:57] it's legally required, mr.
[58:00] richardson or is the proposed
[58:02] motion is sufficient from a
[58:05] legal standpoint?
[58:06] >> yes, it is sufficient from a
[58:08] legal standpoint.
[58:10] >> thank you, sir. .
[58:12] >> okay, so we are moving the
[58:17] motion as presented, is that
[58:20] accurate, council member
[58:22] nestande?
[58:23] >> yes.
[58:24] >> thank you.
[58:25] >> thank you.
[58:28] >> roll call, please.
[58:30] >>clerk:
[58:31] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:
[58:34] aye.
[58:35] >>council member kathleen
[58:36] kelly: yes.
[58:37] >>council member gina nestande:
[58:39] yes.
[58:42] >>council member karina
[58:44] quintanilla: yes.
[58:45] >>mayor jan harnik: yes.
[58:47] >> motion passes unanimously.
[58:48] thank you.
[58:50] >> thank you so much.
[59:05] thank you very much mr.
[59:10] richardson.
[59:11] we are going back to where we
[59:18] were which is no. 15.
[59:24] >>15. Ordinance no. 1374:
[59:41] update palm desert municipal
[59:42] code sections relative to
[59:43] organicwaste recycling
[59:49] requirements to comply with
[59:50] senate bill 1383 (1st reading)
[59:56] (
[59:58] >> good evening, honorable
[59:59] mayor and council members. This
[1:00:05] is the municipal code to
[1:00:10] coincide with organic waste and
[1:00:23] I'm available for answering any
[1:00:26] questions if needed.
[1:00:27] >> great, thank you.
[1:00:29] I see a hand up.
[1:00:32] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:
[1:00:34] thank you, mayor. The report
[1:00:35] and it's also my understanding
[1:00:38] that it indicates that
[1:00:40] implementation is required by
[1:00:44] january 1, 2022, and of course
[1:00:50] we are maybe 12 days past that.
[1:00:57] so are we behind the eight
[1:01:14] ball, are we going to be
[1:01:18] arrested?
[1:01:19] >> no. We are not behind the
[1:01:22] eight ball and we are ahead of
[1:01:23] the game and in good graces
[1:01:28] with recycle at this time.
[1:01:29] >> I don't have much to add
[1:01:32] other than what amy presented.
[1:01:35] >> I feel better already. Thank
[1:01:42] you.
[1:01:43] >> okay.
[1:01:51] >> council member kelly,
[1:01:56] please.
[1:02:03] >> you are muted.
[1:02:04] >>council member kathleen
[1:02:11] kelly: in that vain, for the
[1:02:15] benefit of listening, what do
[1:02:16] we expect to be the actual
[1:02:21] implementation where people
[1:02:26] will be expected to change
[1:02:31] their practices and by which
[1:02:37] time we will equip them to do
[1:02:41] that.
[1:02:42] >> we have a prop 218 notice
[1:02:47] going out to palm desert
[1:02:50] residents. Beginning tomorrow
[1:02:56] and next week. That is a 45-day
[1:03:01] notice before the public
[1:03:02] hearing at the city council at
[1:03:04] the first council meeting in
[1:03:09] march.
[1:03:13] that is to bring the proposed
[1:03:19] amending agreement and upon
[1:03:22] city council approval of that
[1:03:34] agreement will bring for july
[1:03:39] 1st.
[1:03:40] >> any other questions or
[1:03:44] comments?
[1:03:55] >> that is quite an agreement.
[1:04:01] okay.
[1:04:09] if there are no questions nor
[1:04:17] comments, I will entertain a
[1:04:24] motion.
[1:04:28] >> I move.
[1:04:29] >> second.
[1:04:30] >>
[1:04:31] >> roll call, please.
[1:04:34] >>clerk: [roll call] motion
[1:04:47] passes unanimously.
[1:04:55] >> thank you very much. We'll
[1:05:00] go to 16.
[1:05:02] >>6. Resolution no. 2022-02:
[1:05:15] rescind resolution no. 2021-25
[1:05:16] and updating the homelessness
[1:05:23] taskforce bylaws; and appoint
[1:05:25] members to serve on the
[1:05:26] homelessness taskforce
[1:05:27] that is ms. Horning who is
[1:05:32] presenting.
[1:05:33] >> that's correct.
[1:05:34] good evening, mayor and
[1:05:36] council.
[1:05:37] I would like to start my
[1:05:39] presentation this evening by
[1:05:40] pointing out that there is this
[1:05:43] revised staff report with
[1:05:50] supplemental information this
[1:05:51] afternoon.
[1:05:55] the revised report is intended
[1:05:59] to clarify changes in the
[1:06:00] staff's recommendation and I
[1:06:02] will go over this in the
[1:06:07] presentation.
[1:06:08] bear with me as I'm going to
[1:06:12] share this on my screen.
[1:06:23] okay, everybody can see my
[1:06:24] presentation all right?
[1:06:30] >> yes.
[1:06:31] >> okay.
[1:06:33] >> I wonder if you can make
[1:06:38] that bigger.
[1:07:04] >> I think I shared the wrong
[1:07:08] screen. Here we go.
[1:07:13] all right.
[1:07:20] >> is that better?
[1:07:25] >> wonderful.
[1:07:33] >> okay.
[1:07:35] >> okay.
[1:07:36] the city council as you all
[1:07:38] know has been working onseting
[1:07:41] up a homelessness task force
[1:07:43] for a while now. Interviews for
[1:07:47] open positions were held in
[1:07:52] december and resulted in and
[1:08:03] council will appoint 8 members
[1:08:09] and two alternates.
[1:08:14] consist of two council members,
[1:08:28] the chair, two community
[1:08:39] members, business member,
[1:08:40] alternate.
[1:09:48] this also removes the question
[1:09:58] to include bylaws.
[1:10:05] which are incorporated in the
[1:10:08] staff report for reference and
[1:10:10] they are on your screen.
[1:10:13] the request is to wait until
[1:10:15] after the homeless task force
[1:10:17] is able to be established and
[1:10:20] be able to review the bylaws
[1:10:22] and all the changes will be
[1:10:24] brought back to council at the
[1:10:27] same time at a future date.
[1:10:41] at this time, I'm happy to
[1:10:43] answer any questions you may
[1:10:47] have.
[1:10:48] >> I see we have a few hands.
[1:10:53] we'll start with council member
[1:10:55] jonathan.
[1:10:56] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:
[1:10:59] thank you, mayor. Just very
[1:11:02] briefly ms. Horning and council
[1:11:05] member quintanilla, my
[1:11:10] recollection is that the is
[1:11:33] that it's consistent with the
[1:11:35] selection committee. Is that
[1:11:36] correct?
[1:11:38] >> yes.
[1:11:39] >>
[1:11:40] >>council member kathleen
[1:11:41] kelly: that's exactly what I
[1:11:43] wanted to confirm. So thank you
[1:11:46] chl. Are there any other
[1:12:11] questions or comments?
[1:12:14] >> I move.
[1:12:15] >> we have a motion and second.
[1:12:17] >>council member kathleen
[1:12:18] kelly: is that a motion to
[1:12:24] approve both the alternates
[1:12:25] that has been presented, if so,
[1:12:30] second.
[1:12:31] >> that is correct. Thank you.
[1:12:36] >> we have a motion and second.
[1:12:43] >> roll call, please.
[1:12:52] >>clerk: [roll call]
[1:12:53] >> motion passes 5-0.
[1:13:07] >> thank you so much.
[1:13:32] 17. Request to approve
[1:13:33] amendment no. 1 to contract no.
[1:13:34] c37040b with southstar
[1:13:40] engineering and consulting of
[1:13:42] riverside, california in an
[1:13:43] amount not to exceed $350,000
[1:13:54] for additional construction
[1:13:55] management services related to
[1:13:56] president£s plaza east and west
[1:14:04] parking lot improvements
[1:14:05] (project no. 758-14) (cc)
[1:14:07] is that mr. Fireside who is
[1:14:11] willing to present this? No.
[1:14:13] there is mr. Bauman.
[1:14:17] >> thank you, mayor and city
[1:14:23] council. Audrey prepared this
[1:14:25] report. Audrey, are you
[1:14:28] connected?
[1:14:29] >> I'm here.
[1:14:30] >> there she is.
[1:14:35] I'm here to back up audrey as
[1:14:44] needed.
[1:14:45] >> okay, I'm going to start
[1:14:46] this presentation up real
[1:14:49] quick. Can you see it?
[1:14:53] >> yes.
[1:15:02] >> today we are requesting
[1:15:09] additional budget for
[1:15:10] engineering to provide
[1:15:13] additional construction
[1:15:14] management services to complete
[1:15:17] the construction for the
[1:15:18] president plaza the parking
[1:15:25] renovation project.
[1:15:26] throughout construction project
[1:15:31] has experienced numerous
[1:15:32] challenges and resulted in
[1:15:35] additional work and overall
[1:15:37] expended construction schedule.
[1:15:38] for now, I want to start by
[1:15:52] summarizing some of the
[1:15:53] additional work items that have
[1:15:59] been required during
[1:16:00] construction. Here is just a
[1:16:11] few of the bigger examples that
[1:16:16] we have. As you probably all
[1:16:26] heard, our construction team
[1:16:29] has found to date 18 septic
[1:16:36] tanks throughout the project
[1:16:46] site. Many of which were
[1:16:51] properly abandoned and
[1:16:53] connected the affected
[1:16:55] businesses to the sewer system.
[1:16:57] we also had a lot of issues
[1:17:01] while grading with dealing with
[1:17:07] wet and dry utilities.
[1:17:18] dpw has had a lot of delays. So
[1:17:27] our contractor had to wait and
[1:17:36] work around the infrastructure
[1:17:37] around all the bright water
[1:17:40] lines that should have been
[1:17:42] vacated and in turn we had the
[1:17:47] lower a lot of those and we
[1:17:52] also had to replace a lot of
[1:17:56] wet and dry utilities because
[1:17:57] they were shallow and also a
[1:18:03] lot of them were sewer lines
[1:18:08] and private lines and aged
[1:18:10] and/or damaged during
[1:18:19] construction.
[1:18:20] as for dry utilities, we had
[1:18:36] spectrum and sce come out for
[1:18:38] the lower area that was graded.
[1:18:41] we also ran into several
[1:18:44] unmarked system lines that had
[1:18:46] to be lowered and they were in
[1:18:53] both in east and west lots.
[1:18:58] very expensive amount of work.
[1:19:01] in addition, our contractors
[1:19:04] refined the ada improvement
[1:19:05] design. We got a lot of
[1:19:10] comments from businesses that
[1:19:20] there weren't enough ada ramps
[1:19:22] coming from the parking lot. So
[1:19:24] we added some of those. Also we
[1:19:28] refined the larger ramps to the
[1:19:31] businesses that needed them so
[1:19:32] they really match well with the
[1:19:37] existing buildings. They were
[1:19:39] being applied to.
[1:19:44] due to the cwd delays, we also
[1:19:47] had some rework for the
[1:19:50] contractor. They had to leave
[1:19:56] out some segments of the and
[1:20:46] make connections so cwd had to
[1:20:51] redo some work that resulted in
[1:20:54] this -- for this type of work.
[1:21:10] we also chose to install
[1:21:14] temporary light towers
[1:21:21] throughout project site, as a
[1:21:31] safety measure until we can get
[1:21:34] the new lighting put in.
[1:21:39] the additional sidewalk redesign
[1:21:47] from the contractor included
[1:21:50] curb ramp designs to match the
[1:22:00] existing conditions and
[1:22:01] additional drainage
[1:22:05] improvements that work better
[1:22:07] with the lower profile curb
[1:22:11] design, and also some redesign
[1:22:13] around palm trees and sidewalks
[1:22:17] that are going to remain.
[1:22:28] this map, we included this. I
[1:22:29] know it's hard to see but I'm
[1:22:32] not going to spend a lot of
[1:22:34] time on it. This just shows all
[1:22:40] of those improvements
[1:22:45] throughout the project site. So
[1:22:46] this is the east lot and you
[1:22:49] will see this is a spectrum
[1:22:51] line I was talking about here.
[1:23:07] and it shows the improvements
[1:23:11] are not located in individual
[1:23:14] project site. We have run into
[1:23:17] issues all over every time we
[1:23:19] put a shovel in the ground.
[1:23:24] that was the east lot.
[1:23:30] this is the west lot and
[1:23:36] another large spectrum line
[1:23:37] that we found while we were
[1:23:42] digging and septic and all the
[1:23:51] sidewalks and utilities.
[1:23:52] this shows the severity of the
[1:23:55] additional work that's been
[1:24:03] completed.
[1:24:04] so that has ultimately extended
[1:24:06] the work schedule for
[1:24:08] construction. Right now I want
[1:24:09] to give you a quick update,
[1:24:19] where we are at.
[1:24:22] by the site, you will see the
[1:24:25] east lot was paved on the 23rd.
[1:24:28] most of the parking lot now
[1:24:31] open for parking. We do have
[1:24:33] some staging and the contractor
[1:24:36] is going to to continue
[1:24:39] installing other improvements
[1:24:40] in that lot and they plan to be
[1:24:45] done with most to the
[1:24:57] construction and that lot by
[1:25:00] the end of february. That is
[1:25:05] club landscaping, lighting,
[1:25:12] closures, the works.
[1:25:16] cwd is expected to complete
[1:25:18] their work next week and should
[1:25:21] have the sidewalks finished and
[1:25:24] should look really good. And
[1:25:29] now the west lot is scheduled
[1:25:33] for february 23rd and 24. The
[1:25:38] remaining lots will be closed
[1:25:40] to vehicle traffic until the
[1:25:42] lot is paved. The contractor is
[1:25:46] only required to
[1:25:53] have 150 spots on the lot and
[1:25:58] agreed to have spots open in
[1:25:59] the area as feasible as long as
[1:26:03] they are safe to provide as
[1:26:09] much parking as possible to the
[1:26:12] businesses. We still don't have
[1:26:20] a solid date to cwd's work
[1:26:23] schedule yet but they are
[1:26:31] hoping to be at the lot by the
[1:26:35] end of this month. That's where
[1:26:36] we stand now. I wanted to
[1:26:41] highlight the construction
[1:26:42] schedule. When we set up the
[1:26:46] contract, the contractor was
[1:26:47] getting 125 working days to
[1:26:49] complete the interim portion of
[1:26:55] the project.
[1:27:00] it's primarily getting the lots
[1:27:01] paid and that was planned for
[1:27:05] december 1, 2021. And then the
[1:27:10] completion date for the total
[1:27:14] project was january 29, 2022.
[1:27:26] based on the additional work,
[1:27:28] we have granted 40 extra
[1:27:31] working days for the
[1:27:35] contractor. So now the interim
[1:27:39] completion date is february 8,
[1:27:43] andth, and the total completion
[1:27:56] date is april 11th.
[1:27:59] the interim date is where the
[1:28:05] lots are primarily open,
[1:28:13] drivable, usable and the
[1:28:14] completion date in april will
[1:28:16] be for all the other
[1:28:22] improvements that would require
[1:28:29] -- once the lots are paved, we
[1:28:37] should see improvement.
[1:28:39] with that being said, we need
[1:28:48] the management and on-site
[1:28:59] during construction and extra
[1:29:05] management required for the
[1:29:09] construction for april.
[1:29:10] I'm happy to answer any
[1:29:12] questions if you have them.
[1:29:16] >> okay, we have hands up.
[1:29:28] council member kelly.
[1:29:33] >>council member kathleen
[1:29:35] kelly: yes. I would like to try
[1:29:41] to understand this correctly
[1:29:42] and members of the public who
[1:29:48] are listening.
[1:29:50] do I understand correctly, we
[1:29:58] have already approved the
[1:30:01] additional construction work
[1:30:28] that is necessary for the work
[1:30:33] and the contract for the entity
[1:30:43] that we contracted to over see
[1:30:46] that work.
[1:30:52] >> correct.
[1:30:53] we are still grading. There is
[1:30:56] still potential for some
[1:31:01] additional constraints.
[1:31:14] >> we have identified the
[1:31:17] additional work and received in
[1:31:25] the budget if we find any other
[1:31:32] issues. This is just for
[1:31:35] management on site to help
[1:31:39] watch over the contractor, help
[1:31:42] redesign the field, help
[1:31:47] resolve issues. Through the
[1:31:52] construction.
[1:31:55] >> thank you.
[1:31:57] >>> thank you.
[1:32:11] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:
[1:32:13] thank you.
[1:32:14] I have to ask again, the
[1:32:17] original cost estimate was $8.6
[1:32:22] million. Through no call of
[1:32:33] staff or our management team,
[1:32:37] you know the cost has
[1:32:43] skyrocketed almost $3 million
[1:32:48] from 8.6 to 11.5. And we've
[1:32:55] discovered these previously
[1:32:56] unknown conditions under the
[1:33:04] ground that has largely caused
[1:33:06] these increases and they keep
[1:33:08] rising from the deep.
[1:33:10] here is the question.
[1:33:16] are we -- do we have a sense
[1:33:24] whether there is control and
[1:33:28] whether there is more monsters
[1:33:29] down there?
[1:33:30] >> yes, we are in the last, the
[1:33:33] north side of the west lot is
[1:33:39] the west quadrant of the site
[1:33:40] that has to be graded. The
[1:33:45] other three -- that have
[1:33:53] previously been closed, we've
[1:33:57] already graded them out. They
[1:33:59] are a finished grade. So this
[1:34:04] week, we have identified
[1:34:12] utilities that the contractor
[1:34:13] has addressed and we have found
[1:34:16] additional cesspool, but as we
[1:34:23] get to that final grade, then
[1:34:27] we feel much more confident
[1:34:31] that we will not hit anymore
[1:34:35] surprises. The sooner we can
[1:34:41] close the ground,
[1:34:46] the more confident that we
[1:34:49] feel.
[1:34:50] >> thank you so much. All of
[1:34:54] your hard work. Very much
[1:34:57] appreciated.
[1:34:58] >> thank you.
[1:34:59] >> I have a question. By the
[1:35:01] way, that's why there are
[1:35:04] surprises because no one knows
[1:35:14] about it.
[1:35:15] do you have any idea of the age
[1:35:22] of the septic systems, the
[1:35:31] surprise septic systems? Do
[1:35:33] you have any idea of the age?
[1:35:34] >> I don't know the exact age,
[1:35:38] but they haven't been permitted
[1:35:39] in a very long time. I know the
[1:35:49] east lot was originally
[1:35:51] developed in 1970. I wouldn't
[1:35:54] be surprised if they were 40-50
[1:35:59] years old.
[1:36:00] >> I wanted to make the point
[1:36:03] that a lot of this system,
[1:36:08] before the city was
[1:36:11] incorporated. So we don't have,
[1:36:13] unfortunately, we don't have
[1:36:14] the plans for some of this. So
[1:36:19] I know on the level of
[1:36:29] frustration for staff and I
[1:36:30] know for the merchants is
[1:36:33] really difficult.
[1:36:34] at some point, we had to take
[1:36:36] this on. And we chose to do it
[1:36:39] and we are going to get it done
[1:36:40] and it will be an amazing
[1:36:45] project when it's finished and
[1:36:51] it has to be done.
[1:36:57] so thank you for doing what you
[1:37:04] are doing. And now cvwd has
[1:37:09] some problems with the chain
[1:37:12] and what next. Thanks for
[1:37:14] hanging in there and trying to
[1:37:20] keep people informed as you
[1:37:31] can. I know it's important and
[1:37:33] difficult for you and difficult
[1:37:35] for everybody involved. Thank
[1:37:36] you.
[1:37:37] >> I see a couple more hands
[1:37:40] up.
[1:37:41] council member kelly.
[1:37:48] >>council member kathleen
[1:37:50] kelly: if it's time, I would
[1:37:55] move to approve.
[1:38:06] council member nestande may
[1:38:07] have something to express
[1:38:10] first. I should move we should
[1:38:15] have one heck of a party but I
[1:38:17] will leave that to staff.
[1:38:23] >> we'll have nice lots of nice
[1:38:39] smooth pavement.
[1:38:40] >>council member gina nestande:
[1:38:42] yes, I will second the motion.
[1:38:49] I just wanted to add if at all
[1:38:52] possible because staff is not
[1:38:55] busy enough if we can come up
[1:39:01] with a plan b or c with the
[1:39:05] parking. Is what I'm hearing
[1:39:08] with businesses is that there
[1:39:11] is no place to park to frequent
[1:39:13] their business. I have been
[1:39:14] thinking and thinking about it
[1:39:17] and I know february 8th is
[1:39:20] almost here for the interim
[1:39:24] completion. But I'm just
[1:39:36] throwing that out there for
[1:39:39] staff.
[1:39:40] >> I thought it was very good.
[1:39:50] >> okay.
[1:39:51] >> do I give an overview?
[1:40:03] >> the partners with the
[1:40:08] development department, tried
[1:40:14] to secure temporary leases of
[1:40:16] two existing parking lots. The
[1:40:20] old union bank site being one
[1:40:26] of them.
[1:40:36] and we have been encouraging
[1:40:39] businesses and customers and
[1:40:44] business employees to use those
[1:40:51] lots particularly when we've
[1:40:54] had to do closures for bathing.
[1:41:01] in addition, working on
[1:41:04] temporary timed parking
[1:41:05] restrictions, for instance, on
[1:41:07] palm desert drive south to
[1:41:13] allow for greater customer
[1:41:27] access to the businesses and
[1:41:30] there are tweaks we have been
[1:41:33] making to the parking to add to
[1:41:36] the growing shifting and
[1:41:38] phasing of the parking. For
[1:41:42] instance, we are considering
[1:41:44] handicap parking for one of the
[1:41:51] businesses while they are for
[1:42:00] every department of ada parking
[1:42:03] was moved. Staff is working
[1:42:04] with the businesses to make
[1:42:08] these temporary arrangements so
[1:42:12] far.
[1:42:13] >> thank you, randy. I
[1:42:17] appreciate it.
[1:42:18] >>mayor jan harnik: we have a
[1:42:23] motion and second. Unless there
[1:42:25] is any other discussion, can we
[1:42:28] have a roll call vote, please.
[1:42:37] >>clerk: [roll call]
[1:42:38] >> motion passes unanimously.
[1:43:03] >> thank you so much.
[1:43:05] >> okay, we will move to 18.
[1:43:10] >>
[1:43:25] 18. Request to approve the
[1:43:26] annual council liaison
[1:43:27] assignments for calendar year
[1:43:28] 2022
[1:43:29] we have named on that. It's
[1:43:31] something that the mayor does
[1:43:33] and I will give a quick
[1:43:36] overview if that's okay with
[1:43:40] you.
[1:43:47] madam clerk?
[1:43:48] >> absolutely.
[1:43:49] >> okay.
[1:43:50] this is something we just
[1:43:51] review to make sure that the
[1:43:56] city is well represented and
[1:44:02] the council is asked to review
[1:44:05] and confirm their appointments.
[1:44:06] and we have gone through this
[1:44:12] process.
[1:44:14] are there any comments or
[1:44:22] questions regarding these
[1:44:23] appointments? I think we have
[1:44:30] strong representation in all of
[1:44:33] the entities that are on this
[1:44:36] matrix and I thank you for all
[1:44:38] the extra work you have done
[1:44:44] with this.
[1:44:51] can we have a motion, please.
[1:44:53] >> I motion to approve the
[1:44:55] committee assignments.
[1:44:57] >> thank you very much.
[1:44:58] is there a second.
[1:44:59] >> second.
[1:45:01] >>
[1:45:03] >> roll call, please.
[1:45:08] >>clerk: [roll call]
[1:45:30] motion passes 5-0.
[1:45:31] >> thank you so much.
[1:45:35] >>19. Request to appoint two
[1:45:47] (2) city councilmembers to the
[1:45:48] palm desert ihub advisory board
[1:45:54] >> good evening mayor and
[1:45:55] council. I'm the business
[1:45:58] advocate and also over see the
[1:46:03] agreement between the city and
[1:46:12] the coachella valley economic
[1:46:15] partnership for their oversight
[1:46:20] of the palm desert hub. Part of
[1:46:21] the agreement is the advisory
[1:46:23] committee that has two
[1:46:24] representatives from the city
[1:46:26] council as part of it as well
[1:46:33] as business members and
[1:46:40] representatives from cal state
[1:46:44] san bernardino palm desert. So
[1:46:45] with the staff report, staff is
[1:46:50] asking for two appointees for
[1:46:55] that.
[1:46:58] >> okay. Are there any
[1:47:02] questions regarding these
[1:47:03] appointments? I see a hand up.
[1:47:07] >>council member karina
[1:47:08] quintanilla: thank you, mayor.
[1:47:11] my question is what is the
[1:47:14] projected time that these
[1:47:18] meetings are scheduled for the
[1:47:24] I-hub advisory?
[1:47:25] >> I believe the meetings will
[1:47:29] be more of an ad hoc schedule.
[1:47:33] at this point in time it will
[1:47:36] be through zoom. It will depend
[1:47:43] on -- this advisory board will
[1:47:46] be setting up the policies for
[1:47:53] the I-hub. Most of which is
[1:47:58] spelled out in the agreement
[1:48:03] between the city. So I don't
[1:48:05] anticipate a large period of
[1:48:09] time. There may be some changes
[1:48:13] necessary otherwise there would
[1:48:19] not be a regular standing
[1:48:21] committee.
[1:48:22] >> okay.
[1:48:24] may I offer at this point that
[1:48:28] I do represent the city on v
[1:48:47] cva. In my mind, I think it
[1:48:50] would be best to represent the
[1:48:54] city in this position.
[1:48:55] council member kelly?
[1:48:59] >>council member kathleen kelly:
[1:49:05] >> yes.
[1:49:20] I know that the assignment that
[1:49:22] we just approved included the
[1:49:29] mayor's continuing appointment
[1:49:39] as our representative to c
[1:49:50] back and will council members
[1:49:52] want to seek a second pointy or
[1:49:56] go in a different direction?
[1:50:02] >>
[1:50:13] >> I'm open to whatever the
[1:50:17] council decides.
[1:50:19] >> thank you.
[1:50:20] >>council member gina nestande:
[1:50:30] >>council member karina
[1:50:32] quintanilla: thank you. My
[1:50:35] question is the point of
[1:50:40] interests and the city
[1:50:41] understood and the academy. If
[1:50:43] the intention is to grow more
[1:50:48] of the student centered and may
[1:50:56] work and I feel I have a lot
[1:51:00] of experience and would serve
[1:51:03] as a representative should I be
[1:51:05] selected. Thank you.
[1:51:07] >> I do want to note and I saw
[1:51:13] your eyes light up at this
[1:51:20] agenda item that work with csd
[1:51:26] and the academy is what we call
[1:51:32] one future.
[1:51:37] >> it was actually the post
[1:51:42] secondary committee to see that
[1:51:44] I was on the committee.
[1:51:48] >> that's why and one --
[1:51:57] >> however, having said that, I
[1:52:01] wanted to add that clarity. I
[1:52:05] think it's a great idea if you
[1:52:07] would like to be on committee
[1:52:11] that would be great.
[1:52:13] council member nestande, what's
[1:52:16] your thought on that?
[1:52:17] >>council member gina nestande:
[1:52:19] I defer to you, mayor. It
[1:52:27] sounds like council member
[1:52:28] quintanilla has spoken. So I
[1:52:33] don't need to debate this
[1:52:35] issue. So congratulations.
[1:52:36] >> great. I do think we need a
[1:52:41] motion for that.
[1:52:47] please.
[1:52:52] >> so I move that our
[1:53:04] appointees be mayor harnik and
[1:53:07] council member quintanilla.
[1:53:08] >> I second.
[1:53:09] >> we have a motion and second.
[1:53:10] >> roll call, please.
[1:53:15] >>clerk: [roll call] motion
[1:53:41] passes unanimously.
[1:54:04] a ¿bicycle rack incentive
[1:54:05] program½ for private commercial
[1:54:06] properties
[1:54:10] >> who will be presenting?
[1:54:15] >> good evening mayor and
[1:54:19] council. Eric for development
[1:54:20] services. We had a request to
[1:54:23] initiate a bicycle rack
[1:54:39] incentive program. With the
[1:54:48] number of bicycle rack
[1:54:53] improvements on san pablo, we
[1:54:55] need places to also park the
[1:54:57] bicycles. The incentive of this
[1:55:00] program is the city would work
[1:55:06] with private property owners.
[1:55:12] the city would purchase bicycle
[1:55:16] racks and install them on-site
[1:55:19] with the property owner
[1:55:23] maintaining them for 10 years.
[1:55:24] tonight we are looking for
[1:55:27] direction because we are
[1:55:34] focused on areas around cv
[1:55:36] link. And would like to have
[1:55:40] council provide some feedback
[1:55:42] onseting a price limit on the
[1:55:50] bicycle racks.
[1:55:58] probably some consideration
[1:55:59] that you may want to go with a
[1:56:03] different aesthetic. We want to
[1:56:08] make sure that we
[1:56:22] are aware of this.
[1:56:25] I stand for questions and
[1:56:30] direction.
[1:56:31] >> we have a question from
[1:56:37] council member kelly.
[1:56:46] >>council member kathleen
[1:56:53] kelly: a couple of questions.
[1:57:04] first question is if we set up
[1:57:12] a ceiling for what this city is
[1:57:14] willing to do by way of
[1:57:17] incentive, could it also be a
[1:57:20] part of the program that the
[1:57:26] site owner would do something
[1:57:34] more as decor, more compatible
[1:57:39] with their --
[1:57:45] >> we would design the program
[1:57:48] that way.
[1:57:49] >> the second question is, I
[1:57:52] see that the staff report
[1:57:55] requests to us supply three
[1:57:57] bicycle rack options from the
[1:58:00] list attached to the report. I
[1:58:03] didn't come up with how many
[1:58:09] options there are. And we have
[1:58:23] 100.
[1:58:26] could it be possible to perhaps
[1:58:37] for staff to narrow the field
[1:58:42] space for issues of
[1:58:45] practicality and design to use
[1:58:46] palm desert to get some public
[1:58:48] input because I think we
[1:58:56] discovered what's around that
[1:58:57] part that questions around what
[1:59:05] people are going to see on a
[1:59:10] continuing basis, really to
[1:59:15] ignite public interest. So it's
[1:59:17] a great way to drive people to
[1:59:21] the palm desert site. Would
[1:59:25] that be a possible option?
[1:59:30] >> absolutely. We can do that
[1:59:38] and take a look at the number
[1:59:44] of bikes presented and get that
[1:59:50] communication to you.
[1:59:53] >> cv links will probably be a
[1:59:56] great resource also.
[2:00:00] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:
[2:00:06] thank you, mayor.
[2:00:07] so I do have some feedback for
[2:00:11] staff and I will hold back for
[2:00:13] the appropriate time as far as
[2:00:19] questions.
[2:00:21] number one, good evening to you
[2:00:25] sir. Thank you.
[2:00:29] I indicated a cost to about 400
[2:00:40] to $1,000. In my experience,
[2:00:42] installation is often equal to
[2:00:49] a greater cost fof finding it.
[2:00:56] is your cost estimate for the
[2:01:00] cost installation?
[2:01:02] >> that would be for the public
[2:01:08] works team.
[2:01:09] >> I'm super ethiopia hear that
[2:01:11] because that was the second
[2:01:13] question I had. Can we use our
[2:01:18] own staff to do the
[2:01:25] installation on private
[2:01:26] property and I think you are
[2:01:28] saying yes?
[2:01:29] >> yes, we would be drafting an
[2:01:34] agreement that requests to let
[2:01:38] us on to their property.
[2:01:47] >> my other question is whether
[2:01:49] or not staff has considered
[2:01:52] allowing the use of a parking
[2:01:59] space without the owner coming
[2:02:02] into violation of the zoning
[2:02:03] ordinance or development
[2:02:04] agreement or whatever
[2:02:06] restriction there are on the
[2:02:09] number of parking spaces. Has
[2:02:11] staff considered this program
[2:02:12] to be allowed as a parking
[2:02:14] space to a bike rack?
[2:02:19] >> we have appropriate some of
[2:02:34] our larger regional centers and
[2:02:38] we will look at that on a case
[2:02:42] by case basis. We want to work
[2:02:45] with the property owner for the
[2:02:48] location of the bicycle rack so
[2:02:51] they are easily identifiable
[2:02:53] and people are going to be
[2:02:56] using these bicycles. We can
[2:02:59] use this parking space as part
[2:03:02] of that.
[2:03:04] >> as part of that question,
[2:03:05] you want to keep in mind the
[2:03:08] process with the number of
[2:03:10] bicycle riders that don't have
[2:03:12] access to street parking. So
[2:03:15] they are limited in terms of
[2:03:21] where they can put this.
[2:03:27] >>
[2:03:28] >>council member karina
[2:03:29] quintanilla: thank you for
[2:03:31] your very comprehensive list of
[2:03:34] options here. In thinking of my
[2:03:36] time in working with higher
[2:03:40] education the university has
[2:03:44] the ones that are allowable for
[2:03:47] extra space. Is there some
[2:03:50] installation or something that
[2:03:52] was thrown into the list of
[2:03:55] options?
[2:03:56] >> it was a list of options.
[2:04:03] >>
[2:04:04] >>council member gina nestande:
[2:04:06] this might be more of a
[2:04:08] comment, but I will go for it.
[2:04:13] for the city link, this is
[2:04:15] perhaps something that our
[2:04:17] committee can look at our next
[2:04:19] meeting as well because looking
[2:04:24] at -- and maybe just the
[2:04:27] standard bike rack is the ideal
[2:04:31] situation that can hold the
[2:04:32] most bikes. I think we need to
[2:04:41] look at practicality to staff
[2:04:42] in my opinion. Thank you.
[2:04:46] >>mayor jan harnik: council
[2:04:57] member kelly?
[2:04:58] >>council member kathleen
[2:04:59] kelly: what is staff's
[2:05:00] recommendation?
[2:05:01] >> we don't have a
[2:05:03] recommendation. The cost of
[2:05:06] those will draw the program
[2:05:09] quicker. You have maximum
[2:05:12] amount to spend on this.
[2:05:16] >> thank you.
[2:05:20] >> council member?
[2:05:22] >> thank you, mayor.
[2:05:25] I have another question,
[2:05:28] something that is very
[2:05:35] minimalistic and functional and
[2:05:37] if someone wants to get a
[2:05:42] little fancier.
[2:05:43] >> I think we can set up the
[2:05:45] program that way.
[2:05:46] >> time for comments?
[2:05:54] >> due to inadequate needs,
[2:05:55] this is a great idea and I love
[2:05:58] it.
[2:06:00] I think that it occurs to me
[2:06:03] that this might lend itself to
[2:06:06] the subcommittee to work with
[2:06:07] staff to address those details
[2:06:11] and I would be happy and
[2:06:12] something like the icon edge or
[2:06:16] some of the other hedges that
[2:06:18] are just for a bike rack. Even
[2:06:22] the artistic ones are very
[2:06:24] sturdy. There is a lot of good
[2:06:28] options there and using
[2:06:30] something with the icon edge
[2:06:34] with an artistic manner gives
[2:06:36] the owner the option of
[2:06:44] installing with.
[2:06:45] I think this shouldn't be just
[2:06:50] the high demand areas because
[2:06:52] there are some areas that is
[2:06:57] part of the encouraging to go
[2:07:01] green these days.
[2:07:02] that covers my feedback for
[2:07:04] now. Thank you.
[2:07:07] >>mayor jan harnik: thank you.
[2:07:09] >>council member karina
[2:07:15] quintanilla: thank you, mayor.
[2:07:16] the policy, is that something
[2:07:20] that could be added to the palm
[2:07:26] desert --
[2:07:27] >>council member kathleen
[2:07:30] kelly: let me take a stab at
[2:07:37] the motion to establish the
[2:07:47] subcommittee. As council member
[2:07:50] stated is using the reservation
[2:07:52] and motion to give the staff
[2:07:53] direction is yes, we love the
[2:08:03] idea, no. 2, is the city, that
[2:08:09] goes for both, and thirdly, to
[2:08:16] using the suggested and
[2:08:20] deferring the issue of the cap
[2:08:27] on subsidy.
[2:08:30] >> okay.
[2:08:32] >>mayor jan harnik: we have a
[2:08:34] motion and second. I'm going to
[2:08:37] add a few comments because I do
[2:08:41] also ride a bike. So let's ask
[2:08:45] those bicyclist who are out
[2:08:50] there and council member
[2:08:56] nestande and uc davis and they
[2:08:57] have bicyclist and the stands
[2:08:58] and repairs and of course I
[2:09:00] have pictures of all of them.
[2:09:13] >> roll call, please.
[2:09:19] >>clerk: [roll call]
[2:09:22] >> this passes unanimously.
[2:09:30] >> thank you.
[2:09:31] >> next.
[2:09:41] 21. Request for direction on
[2:09:42] the meeting format for
[2:09:43] committee, commission and
[2:09:45] council meetings (
[2:09:46] this is for the council if you
[2:09:48] would prefer to have virtual
[2:09:51] meetings during the pandemic.
[2:09:53] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:
[2:09:54] thank you. Yeah, I think
[2:09:57] staff's recommendation makes
[2:09:58] sense. I think this is a long
[2:10:00] time that we are in a surge. We
[2:10:08] should go to hybrid meetings
[2:10:10] once the council chamber has
[2:10:15] been completed and the acr and
[2:10:23] omicron and some other variant.
[2:10:25] >>council member gina nestande:
[2:10:26] I was just going to say is that
[2:10:30] I don't know if we can give
[2:10:33] that option to those that want
[2:10:43] to do that.
[2:10:44] >>council member karina
[2:10:48] quintanilla: that's what I
[2:10:50] have heard from other
[2:10:54] residents.
[2:10:55] >> some of the flexibility
[2:10:56] there. And the key thing is
[2:11:01] number one keeping people safe,
[2:11:07] no. 2, we have lived here for
[2:11:10] decades and we have the zoom
[2:11:11] format and we have to comply
[2:11:13] with one or the other. We can
[2:11:17] kind of modify wherever you are
[2:11:19] to zoom and that level of
[2:11:23] participation. So we are really
[2:11:29] rather constrained.
[2:11:32] >> does that answer your
[2:11:35] question?
[2:11:36] >> yes. It does. Thank you.
[2:11:39] >>mayor jan harnik: I think we
[2:11:41] always have standards put in
[2:11:44] place by the county or the
[2:11:49] state.
[2:11:52] >>
[2:11:53] >>council member karina
[2:11:55] quintanilla: with that, I will
[2:11:57] add my comment now.
[2:11:59] I think it's still the safest
[2:12:03] until the surge has dropped. Is
[2:12:07] there a threshold that staff
[2:12:09] has for this committee but I
[2:12:13] would be in favor to stay
[2:12:18] virtual to preserve public
[2:12:25] health.
[2:12:26] >> it can be virtual and in the
[2:12:30] conference room. So we have 25
[2:12:32] days away from the rooms to
[2:12:37] start to become available. We
[2:12:44] can reevaluate that climate.
[2:12:46] >>council member kathleen
[2:12:47] kelly: which was just clarified
[2:12:49] to keep our meetings virtual
[2:12:55] until we are concurrent with
[2:12:58] many of the comments that are
[2:13:00] made and our committees need
[2:13:05] clarity. We need that and
[2:13:10] staff's recommendation is very
[2:13:11] sound.
[2:13:12] >>mayor jan harnik: thank you.
[2:13:15] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:
[2:13:20] thank you, mayor.
[2:13:21] that direction being to
[2:13:23] continue with virtual meetings
[2:13:26] for now with the target of
[2:13:32] converting.
[2:13:33] >> okay.
[2:13:37] >>mayor jan harnik: it's
[2:13:39] important to remain flexible
[2:13:40] because who knows what the next
[2:13:44] variant might be.
[2:13:45] we have a motion and second.
[2:13:49] >> roll call, please.
[2:13:56] >>clerk: [roll call]
[2:14:00] >> we are going back to public
[2:14:04] hearings.
[2:14:17] 22. Ordinance no. 1375: amend
[2:14:18] the palm desert municipal code,
[2:14:19] chapter 25, modifying section
[2:14:28] 5.60.60 (public hearing and
[2:14:29] public notice), adding section
[2:14:30] 25.60.160 ¿community
[2:14:39] engagement,½ and chapter 5,
[2:14:40] section 5.11 ¿disclosures upon
[2:14:41] transfer of residential
[2:14:52] property½ regulating the public
[2:14:53] engagement process (1st
[2:14:55] reading) (cc)
[2:14:56] >> I'm sorry, madam mayor. I'm
[2:15:06] having technical difficulties.
[2:15:07] >> this is for notifying the
[2:15:21] policy of community engagement.
[2:15:23] >> can you see my screen?
[2:15:26] >> yes, perfect.
[2:15:27] >> this is the community
[2:15:30] engagement ordinance being
[2:15:33] proposed.
[2:15:35] early in the planning process
[2:15:37] leads to better outcomes to
[2:15:42] committee concerns. The
[2:15:43] community engagement intended
[2:15:44] to have the following. The city
[2:15:48] supports increasing the public
[2:15:54] notification of certain
[2:15:55] developments, broadening the
[2:15:58] audience and also as part of
[2:16:04] the application the community
[2:16:05] engagement plan to be reviewed
[2:16:07] by staff to adequately closing
[2:16:11] documents of long-term planning
[2:16:14] efforts and potential future
[2:16:16] projects including the
[2:16:20] disclosures of the city's --
[2:16:21] respond to public hearing and
[2:16:28] public notifications.
[2:16:37] so, our section 25.60.060, with
[2:16:39] what 300 feet is which is what
[2:16:43] is required and the new
[2:16:46] requirement.
[2:16:48] the developers are required to
[2:16:50] submit a community engagement
[2:16:52] plan for projects 5 acres or
[2:16:55] more. That is done at the time
[2:17:00] -- a method of communication
[2:17:01] with the public and locations
[2:17:02] for the public outreach to take
[2:17:05] place. It is also a requirement
[2:17:11] to submit any package.
[2:17:13] the requirement is one meeting
[2:17:16] at minimum with follow up
[2:17:19] meetings as directed by the
[2:17:23] department of services and
[2:17:24] project engagement with the
[2:17:28] public.
[2:17:29] the notification of the
[2:17:31] meetings will include a
[2:17:34] thousand notifications as well
[2:17:37] and how those concerns are
[2:17:41] being met.
[2:17:45] the third ordinance
[2:17:47] recommendation is any
[2:17:48] residential property located
[2:17:50] within our city is to deliver
[2:17:53] the prospective buyer through
[2:17:57] closing documents, the real
[2:17:58] estate tax disclosure, the
[2:18:00] resale of homes in older
[2:18:03] subdivisions to benefit from
[2:18:05] awareness of likely development
[2:18:14] in the vicinity.
[2:18:16] this concludes the staff
[2:18:18] report.
[2:18:19] >> thank you so much.
[2:18:20] I see two hands for questions.
[2:18:25] >>council member karina
[2:18:27] quintanilla: would anyone like
[2:18:30] attendance sheets be required
[2:18:33] or sign in sheets? I believe
[2:18:35] that was brought up in a
[2:18:39] previous conversation.
[2:18:41] >> so part of those meetings,
[2:18:43] city staff will have to
[2:18:45] participate. City staff will be
[2:18:47] there and if it is an in person
[2:18:50] meeting, there will be those
[2:18:53] sign in sheets. There is no
[2:18:54] requirement of the number of
[2:18:56] people that will show up.
[2:19:09] >>council member kathleen
[2:19:13] kelly: we essentially -- is
[2:19:16] that correct?
[2:19:17] >> that's correct.
[2:19:18] >> what I see in the staff
[2:19:29] requirement that resale of
[2:19:30] homes would lead to the
[2:19:35] disclosure called for. It's not
[2:19:41] the 5 acres issue.
[2:19:44] what I'm looking at in page 5,
[2:19:52] clarifying that the new
[2:19:55] language on disclosures only
[2:19:58] applies to new.
[2:20:03] >> also wanted to provide the
[2:20:09] opportunity to have, for
[2:20:15] example, for
[2:20:18] today.
[2:20:19] >> thank you. That's helpful.
[2:20:30] >> thank you.
[2:20:31] >> when this issue came up, of
[2:20:37] course it was enforcement and
[2:20:42] when the california real estate
[2:20:53] disclosure and fire risk, with
[2:20:57] this issue and directed to the
[2:21:03] city's website and ends up
[2:21:06] building their own home. If you
[2:21:10] follow the state law that
[2:21:14] already has the format. So
[2:21:15] that's why it went this way.
[2:21:20] it's something that is already
[2:21:25] there and we can develop this
[2:21:31] straight forward for that to
[2:21:33] happen.
[2:21:34] >>mayor pro tem sabby jonathan:
[2:21:38] thank you.
[2:21:39] so, item 5. That is under scope
[2:21:44] of regulations. It says the
[2:21:56] following.. And something that
[2:22:13] wouldn't create basically
[2:22:17] unlimited power.
[2:22:18] >> how to correct this or
[2:22:19] revise this if the council
[2:22:22] wishes. The thought process
[2:22:24] really was to see what kind
[2:22:30] those community members are,
[2:22:31] what are we going to see from
[2:22:35] our backyard. So they already
[2:22:38] provide those line of site. So
[2:22:40] we just wanted to reserve our
[2:22:41] right to be able to request
[2:22:47] those various kinds to really
[2:22:51] help and assist.
[2:22:54] >> let me help you direct your
[2:22:56] answer to my question.
[2:22:57] >> sure.
[2:22:59] >> I understand what developers
[2:23:01] provide and what they don't
[2:23:05] provide. This particular
[2:23:07] provision -- staff is not cost
[2:23:15] conscious, right? A
[2:23:18] 3-dimensional plan can cost,
[2:23:19] has staff considered some kind
[2:23:21] of limitation on this
[2:23:24] open-ended authority for staff
[2:23:29] to request additional items.
[2:23:33] >> to give me a week or so
[2:23:44] with staff. To address the
[2:23:47] concerns that are being
[2:23:48] generated to the city council
[2:23:49] this last year. I'm not quite
[2:23:54] sure how that procedurally
[2:23:55] require that before we take it
[2:23:58] to the city council. I tend to
[2:24:01] agree with you. This is not
[2:24:05] intended to be a bureaucratic
[2:24:11] backstop.
[2:24:27] >>council member kathleen kelly:
[2:24:32] mayor pro tem jonathan's
[2:24:38] suggestion, because certainly
[2:24:45] can -- the rails for the
[2:24:51] perspective. We'll find the
[2:24:56] middle ground.
[2:25:00] >> our next meeting.
[2:25:03] >> that will end the public
[2:25:06] hearing.
[2:25:08] >> good point.
[2:25:11] >>
[2:25:12] >>mayor jan harnik: so why --
[2:25:17] or do we have to open the
[2:25:18] public hearing if we are going
[2:25:25] to continue it? Mr. Hargrave?
[2:25:28] >> if we know we are coming
[2:25:31] back in 2 weeks, we go to a
[2:25:37] public hearing. And then
[2:25:42] continue to a date certain so
[2:25:45] that way we don't have to
[2:25:47] renotice it.
[2:25:48] >> why don't we do that to
[2:25:50] speak on it at this point.
[2:25:52] unless there are additional
[2:25:53] questions of staff, I will open
[2:25:59] the public hearing.
[2:26:03] and now why don't we move to
[2:26:05] continue this to the next
[2:26:10] meeting.
[2:26:12] >> second.
[2:26:19] >> we have a motion and second.
[2:26:22] can we please have a roll call
[2:26:29] vote.
[2:26:32] >>clerk: [roll call]
[2:26:33] >> motion to continue passes
[2:26:48] 5-0.
[2:26:49] >> that public hearing remains
[2:26:53] open at our next meeting.
[2:26:55] that marks the end of our
[2:26:59] meeting except for city manager
[2:27:03] comments.
[2:27:04] >> I have no comments tonight,
[2:27:06] mayor.
[2:27:07] >> thank you. And seeing no
[2:27:12] unfinished business, this
[2:27:14] meeting stands adjourned.