1 00:00:00,719 --> 00:00:06,080 your back. Put your hands on your hips. 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,800 You're going to tighten up your core. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,040 Squeeze everything. 4 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:12,480 And you're going to tilt your bottom 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,639 forward. Your knees are going to be 6 00:00:14,639 --> 00:00:16,800 slightly bent, looking up at the 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,520 ceiling. Keep everything tight. And I'm 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:26,855 going to [music] count 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 9 00:00:26,855 --> 00:00:30,960 [music] 3 2 one and release your body. 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,840 Stretch it out. [music] Relax. Take a 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,239 breath. 12 00:00:36,239 --> 00:00:37,990 Blow it out as your hands come back to 13 00:00:37,990 --> 00:00:41,360 [music] the hip area. Hands on the hip. 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,040 Tighten it up and tilt. 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:54,239 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 one [music] and 16 00:00:54,239 --> 00:00:56,399 release your body. Stretch it out again. 17 00:00:56,399 --> 00:00:58,800 Take a breath. 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,480 Blow it out as your hands [music] come 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,359 back 20 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:10,320 tight and tilt. Five 4 3 2 one and 21 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:15,200 relax. Stretch it out. Take a breath. 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,799 and blow it out 23 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:22,000 tight and tilt. 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:31,040 10 9 [music] 8 7 6 5 4 3 [music] 2 1 and 25 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,159 release it. Stretch it out. 26 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:36,000 Breathing. [music] 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,880 And blow it out. 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,320 Last one. Tight [music] and tilt. 29 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:51,920 10. 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 and coming out of 30 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,399 that. Stretch it out. Take a breath 31 00:01:56,399 --> 00:01:58,560 and blow it out. Bring your hands back. 32 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,399 We're going to open our feet no wider 33 00:02:00,399 --> 00:02:03,439 than the chair legs. 34 00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:05,680 Bend your knees slightly. 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,080 Reach across your body. Stretching it 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,560 out. Starting with 10. Alternating to 37 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,280 the other side. 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,879 Nine. 39 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:17,040 Stretch it out. 40 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,470 Eight. 41 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,840 Seven. Using your whole body. [music] 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,190 Six. 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,550 5 44 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,440 4 45 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,869 3 46 00:02:36,879 --> 00:02:39,760 2 47 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,160 and one. 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,000 Coming back in. Make sure [music] you 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,760 can touch the chair with the backs of 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,080 your legs. We're going to sit down 10 51 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,830 times. 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,480 This is a fun one. 53 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,400 Put your hands out to the front. [music] 54 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,080 Going to take a breath and blow it out 55 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:04,309 as we sit down. Going down. 56 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:07,040 Take your hands all the way to the back 57 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,720 like you're going to scoop up air. 58 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,430 Coming back up. Take a breath. 59 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:21,990 Blow it out as you go down. 60 00:03:22,000 --> 00:06:01,590 And breathing up. 61 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,199 Welcome to the city of Periland City 62 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:05,199 Council uh special meeting. I'll call 63 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:07,680 this meeting to order at 4 p.m. on 64 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,479 August 24th, 2026. 65 00:06:10,479 --> 00:06:12,000 At this particular time, we'll have roll 66 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,840 call certification of quorum. Madam 67 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:16,800 Secretary, I attest that all members of 68 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,080 council are present. 69 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,560 Moving on to citizens comments. I do not 70 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,639 believe that any citizens comments uh 71 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:27,520 were submitted at this time. Uh so next 72 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,400 order of business is the new business uh 73 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,000 presenting presentation regarding the 74 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,479 fiscal year 2027 proposed budget for all 75 00:06:34,479 --> 00:06:38,880 funds. And I'll turn it this time to Mr. 76 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,479 >> Thank you, mayor, and good afternoon 77 00:06:40,479 --> 00:06:43,280 council. So, as we normally work through 78 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,520 our budget workshops, a lot of what we 79 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,919 talk about is what we're not able to get 80 00:06:47,919 --> 00:06:50,880 done within a budget um or our unressed 81 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,919 needs. Um but today, as I get this 82 00:06:53,919 --> 00:06:56,160 kicked off, I want to talk about what 83 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,800 this budget does accomplish and the 84 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,280 goals that it meets um as we head into 85 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:04,800 this fourth uh workshop. Um so, uh first 86 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,199 off, uh there was a goal to be at the no 87 00:07:07,199 --> 00:07:09,680 new revenue rate. We are actually 1 cent 88 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,400 below the no new revenue rate. Um 89 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,199 streets, we've identified in streets uh 90 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:17,759 that we have additional needs. Uh but 91 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:19,759 again this year we added an additional 92 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:22,400 $500,000 to the street rehab and 93 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,479 maintenance budget. 94 00:07:24,479 --> 00:07:26,479 Cost recovery. We completed a 95 00:07:26,479 --> 00:07:29,440 significant review of our revenues and 96 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,919 our fees for better cost recovery to 97 00:07:31,919 --> 00:07:34,400 ensure that they track along with our 98 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,919 increased cost to provide those 99 00:07:35,919 --> 00:07:38,639 services. uh that's been completed and 100 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:41,199 is actually the bulk of tonight's uh a 101 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:43,759 lot of tonight's presentation. Uh we 102 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:45,680 went through a fund balance review and 103 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,039 optimization process and analysis that's 104 00:07:49,039 --> 00:07:50,800 been completed and is baked into this 105 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,560 budget where we had fund balances uh for 106 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,360 the general fund uh that that backed up 107 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,120 where we had fund balances and other 108 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,560 funds and we've been able to utilize 109 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,240 those dollars instead of having them 110 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,560 sitting there on the sidelines. um 111 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,120 compensation. We've been on basically a 112 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,039 kind of a three-year journey to review 113 00:08:09,039 --> 00:08:11,280 each major segment of our compensation 114 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,319 plans in order to remain competitive in 115 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:16,160 the market for retention and 116 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,639 recruitment. Uh the goals established 117 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:21,199 were uh to be above market versus our 118 00:08:21,199 --> 00:08:24,080 peer cities in the public safety arena 119 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,479 and those pay plans and at the market 120 00:08:26,479 --> 00:08:29,599 for our non-public safety pay plans. So 121 00:08:29,599 --> 00:08:31,199 that three-year journey where we've 122 00:08:31,199 --> 00:08:32,880 gotten to today is we've addressed the 123 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,880 PD pay plan with our meet and confer 124 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,120 agreement. The second year of that is 125 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,760 included in this budget. Last year we 126 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,919 made a big move on the fire pay plan 127 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:44,480 based on where we are were versus the 128 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,320 market. And then this year we're making 129 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,320 some structural changes in that fire pay 130 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,959 plan to set us up better for the future. 131 00:08:50,959 --> 00:08:53,279 Um and then we also this year completed 132 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:55,200 our compensation study for the rest of 133 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,399 our employees. Um the analysis from that 134 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:02,480 study identified two main things. Uh the 135 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,760 areas where we were below the market and 136 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,279 basically what adjustment would be 137 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:09,600 needed to keep us at the market average 138 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,920 uh for for those pay plans. And this 139 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,720 budget addresses both of those as well. 140 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,519 Health care. Uh we had to go out to the 141 00:09:17,519 --> 00:09:19,519 market for health care this year. That's 142 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:21,600 always uh concerning because you always 143 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,200 see the the cost increases in the 144 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,200 healthcare arena. Uh but we did go to 145 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,880 the market. we were able to limit our 146 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,600 cost increases there to 6.8% while the 147 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,399 industry is typically seeing over 11% 148 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:35,680 increases. And then uh lastly, our water 149 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:38,000 and sewer rate increase. Uh while last 150 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,640 year's modeling estimated it to be over 151 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,080 16% uh this year uh we were able to get 152 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,920 that down to a recommended of 12 and 153 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,440 then squeeze it even a little further 154 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,959 down to just south of 10%. Um, I'll I'll 155 00:09:50,959 --> 00:09:53,360 bet with another significant incre sign 156 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,360 significant increase projected for next 157 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,519 year. Uh, but we're near the end of 158 00:09:57,519 --> 00:10:01,040 those large rate increases. Um, and as 159 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,480 you've seen in the headlines recently, 160 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:03,839 we're not the only ones dealing with 161 00:10:03,839 --> 00:10:06,000 those kind of increases. Um, but we get 162 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,519 through next year and depending on what 163 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:09,120 we do there, it could extend another 164 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,279 year, but we we see that drop off 165 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:14,240 significantly um in in the two to 166 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,040 threeyear time frame. Um, so it's a very 167 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,760 tight budget, but does accomplish much. 168 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,279 And at this point, I want to hand it off 169 00:10:21,279 --> 00:10:22,560 to Rachel to walk through our 170 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:25,519 presentation tonight. Thank you. 171 00:10:25,519 --> 00:10:27,519 >> Thank you. Good afternoon, Mayor and 172 00:10:27,519 --> 00:10:29,839 Council. For today's discussion, we'll 173 00:10:29,839 --> 00:10:31,839 be reviewing some of the general fund 174 00:10:31,839 --> 00:10:33,839 revenue and then discussing the fee 175 00:10:33,839 --> 00:10:35,760 changes that are applicable to this 176 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,240 budget process. 177 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,560 So, similar to how we've shown expenses 178 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:42,880 in the past, this slide shows both our 179 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,519 revenue and expenses for general fund by 180 00:10:45,519 --> 00:10:48,480 the strategic priorities set by council. 181 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,720 So, strong economy includes sales and 182 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,720 use taxes as well as community 183 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,279 development. Trusted government includes 184 00:10:55,279 --> 00:10:57,680 charges for services and the tours admin 185 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:00,959 fee. Safe community includes EMS, fire, 186 00:11:00,959 --> 00:11:04,480 and PD. and parks's connected community 187 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,480 and our sustainable infrastructure 188 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,560 includes franchise fees as well as 189 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:11,760 transfers in another way of looking at 190 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,480 revenue is revenue by department. So 191 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,519 fiscal year 26 projections shows the 192 00:11:17,519 --> 00:11:19,440 best estimate of revenue through the 193 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,000 fiscal year while projections for fiscal 194 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,480 year 27 proposed budget are usually 195 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,800 conservative and take out any one-time 196 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,880 funds that may be accounted for in 197 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,079 fiscal year 26. Most revenue is 198 00:11:32,079 --> 00:11:34,079 considered non-dep departmental 199 00:11:34,079 --> 00:11:36,800 including property taxes, sales taxes, 200 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,480 tur admin fee as well as transfers in 201 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,880 departments reflect revenue for services 202 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,279 they directly provide. And as you can 203 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:47,360 see, not all departments are listed as 204 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,079 some may not generate any revenue. Those 205 00:11:50,079 --> 00:11:52,160 that do are encouraged to do so on a 206 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,399 cost recovery basis when possible or to 207 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:56,640 the legislative maximum if below the 208 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,200 cost recovery threshold. Fees are 209 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,680 reviewed annually as part of the budget 210 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:03,519 process. 211 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:05,600 During the budget process, departments 212 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,760 followed the council direction to review 213 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,320 fees and account for cost recovery. 214 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,160 Updated fees throughout this 215 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,959 presentation are built into the FY27 216 00:12:14,959 --> 00:12:17,519 proposed budget and reflect legislative 217 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:20,079 and/or cost recovery updates. Most 218 00:12:20,079 --> 00:12:22,000 proposed fee updates were included in 219 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,399 the budget highlights section of the 220 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:27,519 fiscal year 27 proposed budget book with 221 00:12:27,519 --> 00:12:30,000 a few cost recovery fees for the fire 222 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,000 department added for the purposes of 223 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,079 this presentation. 224 00:12:34,079 --> 00:12:36,320 When fees are being updated, the old fee 225 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,480 shows alongside the proposed new fees. 226 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,880 And when new fees are shown, uh they 227 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,519 will be added to the fee schedule for 228 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:46,240 approval on September 14th. This slide 229 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,880 shows six animal control fees that are 230 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,200 proposed to be updated for fiscal year 231 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,399 27. And the next slide shows a fee that 232 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:56,480 is currently being charged and needs to 233 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,399 be added to the fee schedule based off 234 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:02,399 of services provided by the shelter. 235 00:13:02,399 --> 00:13:05,600 This next permit fee slide uh reflects 236 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,279 things that have been listed on separate 237 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:09,440 ordinances and may or may not have been 238 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,519 charged and will now be included on the 239 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:13,519 non-development fee ordinance and 240 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:15,839 charged consistently as written. And 241 00:13:15,839 --> 00:13:17,839 this brings both ordinances into 242 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:19,680 alignment and the police department will 243 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:23,519 begin collecting fees as indicated. 244 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:26,160 The fire department is updating EMS fees 245 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,320 to increase in line with legislative 246 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,040 maximums. These changes do not allow for 247 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,040 full cost recovery, but do bring them 248 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,079 more into alignment with that. 249 00:13:36,079 --> 00:13:38,800 Beginning in fiscal year SE 27, we're 250 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,160 proposing to begin collecting additional 251 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,279 fire cost recovery fees. And those fees 252 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:46,959 are shown here, and they're applied 253 00:13:46,959 --> 00:13:49,680 based off of the services rendered at 254 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:52,240 the time. 255 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,639 The fire marshall is proposing to update 256 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:57,680 three fees to be more in line with uh 257 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:00,079 their addition the other fees in the 258 00:14:00,079 --> 00:14:01,519 schedule so that they're charging 259 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:03,920 consistently. 260 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,199 Parks has two updates to their parks and 261 00:14:07,199 --> 00:14:10,720 recreation niatorum fees as well as 262 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,880 additional new fees proposed for the 263 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,120 west perand community center. This would 264 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,519 bring in new revenue as well as an 265 00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:20,959 update to the timings or new timing 266 00:14:20,959 --> 00:14:23,600 system daily use fee. 267 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,839 Community development will be per 268 00:14:25,839 --> 00:14:27,920 updating their development fees for the 269 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,079 first time in over five years. These are 270 00:14:30,079 --> 00:14:33,120 done on a cost recovery basis as well as 271 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,745 in line with legislative changes. So 272 00:14:35,745 --> 00:14:37,600 [snorts] there are a significant amount 273 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,360 of these. So if you click on those 274 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,199 links, you're able to see them in more 275 00:14:41,199 --> 00:14:44,000 detail. 276 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 There are some additional new fees that 277 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,560 will be included in the update to the 278 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,639 development fees and this will also come 279 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:53,920 before council on September 14th. And 280 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,839 then there are solid waste fees uh in 281 00:14:57,839 --> 00:15:00,399 alignment with our contra contract with 282 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:02,880 Frontier. In addition to the solid waste 283 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,440 fees shown here, which will be included 284 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,000 on the non-development fee schedule, the 285 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,920 water wastewater fees will also be 286 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,240 updated as discussed during budget 287 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,279 discussion number two with that 9.9% 288 00:15:15,279 --> 00:15:16,880 increase and included on that 289 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,079 non-development fee schedule. 290 00:15:20,079 --> 00:15:22,399 So, as we start to wrap up the budget 291 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:25,040 process, we'll come on September 14th 292 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,519 with the budget public hearing, the 293 00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:29,680 first reading of our budget ordinance, 294 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,079 tax rate ordinance, non-development fee 295 00:15:32,079 --> 00:15:33,839 ordinance, and the development fee 296 00:15:33,839 --> 00:15:35,760 ordinance, as well as the adoption of 297 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,480 the 5-year capital improvement plan. And 298 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,560 then on September 28th, we'll have the 299 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,800 second reading of the budget ordinance, 300 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,120 tax rate ordinance, non-development fee, 301 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,040 and development fee ordinances. And with 302 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,800 that, I'll turn it back over to Mr. 303 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:56,470 Epson for questions. 304 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,720 » Thank you, Rachel. Um, I just, you know, 305 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,079 once again want to thank our budget 306 00:16:00,079 --> 00:16:01,680 team, all of our departments that are 307 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,279 here and all the hard work that's gone 308 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:06,000 into the budget up to this point. And at 309 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,199 this point, ready to hand it back to 310 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:09,040 you, mayor and council for any uh 311 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,560 questions um as we wrap up the uh final 312 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,880 budget workshop and head into budget 313 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,240 adoption adoption next month. Thank you. 314 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,720 Mr. and thank you uh Mitchell 315 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,519 for that information. 316 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:27,440 I'll look to council for any questions 317 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,839 or comments. 318 00:16:29,839 --> 00:16:33,040 Oh, sorry. Uh member Kosa. Thank you, 319 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,320 Mayor. Uh on the uh memo that was sent 320 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,240 out page three of 27. 321 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,680 Just had a question here on the 26 322 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,800 estimated and then the 27. Uh it shows 323 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,720 the recovery was 78 uh and 26 and then 324 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:57,519 84 and 27. Um is that what we're uh one 325 00:16:57,519 --> 00:16:59,440 is 26 326 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,880 uh since we're almost through it. I 327 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,399 assume that that's pretty accurate at 328 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:06,710 78% recovery. 329 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,280 » Oh, there's Carrie. I didn't see Carrie. 330 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,039 >> Yes. Uh those are those numbers were 331 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:12,720 based off of our midyear projections 332 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,520 that were approved in the in June. Um, 333 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,280 but that's what we've been adhering to 334 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,199 and we anticipate our expenses to be 335 00:17:19,199 --> 00:17:21,600 100% of what was adopted in June. 336 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,839 >> Okay. All right. And then, uh, showing 337 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:26,319 for for the next year, albeit it's a 338 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:30,000 forecast, we're looking at 84%. Um, the 339 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,960 revenue is roughly flat to me. It's 340 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,280 about,000 341 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,400 difference. Um, [clears throat] the, uh, 342 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,600 expenses dropped quite a bit um, 343 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,240 compared to the year before. Uh so 344 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,160 that's where the the percentage 345 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,880 difference came in. Um as far as you 346 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,280 know moving forward I know uh like we 347 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,760 said before the 348 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,039 uh co hit is hard and it was uh we went 349 00:17:57,039 --> 00:18:01,600 from about 105 to 55%. Um what do we 350 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,679 have what are we looking at to try and 351 00:18:03,679 --> 00:18:05,200 get back up to the if you want to call 352 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,600 it break even or you know 100% cost 353 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,559 recovery. 354 00:18:08,559 --> 00:18:10,799 >> So we are um we're looking at a lot of 355 00:18:10,799 --> 00:18:13,200 different things. Um, one, always 356 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,720 looking at our expenses and our staff 357 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,559 cost, monitoring that as we go through. 358 00:18:16,559 --> 00:18:18,160 One of the reasons for the decreases in 359 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,480 expenses in FY27 versus FY26 and 26, we 360 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,039 had several um, HVAC units that we had 361 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:27,039 to replace that were unexpected repairs. 362 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:28,400 And so, that was driving up those 363 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,799 expenses. So, in FY27, we expect that to 364 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:32,799 get back down to where that average 365 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:35,360 should should stay. And then we are 366 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:37,039 looking at a lot of new revenue 367 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:38,799 generating opportunities. Um we're 368 00:18:38,799 --> 00:18:40,559 looking at improving our group fitness 369 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:42,559 classes which will drive additional 370 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:44,799 membership revenue. Um so membership 371 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:47,039 revenue is one of our largest um 372 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:49,440 revenues for the facility. And then also 373 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,000 in the natiatorum um our team has been 374 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,120 working very strategically to start um 375 00:18:55,120 --> 00:18:56,960 I'll say playing Tetris with the with 376 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,799 the use of the pool to where we can 377 00:18:58,799 --> 00:19:00,320 still offer swimming lessons and we can 378 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,400 still offer members swim but we're also 379 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,640 offering a lot um opening up a lot of 380 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,200 opportunities for larger meets which are 381 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,440 a huge revenue driving um opportunity 382 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,160 for us. their decrease in revenue or the 383 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,120 revenue staying about flat um was tied 384 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:17,520 to two large swimming meets that move 385 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,760 across the state throughout the year. So 386 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,440 those aren't showing up in our revenue 387 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,600 estimates, but those also open up prime 388 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,679 weekends for new business and we're 389 00:19:25,679 --> 00:19:27,200 working to fill those spots. So when we 390 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,600 budget for revenue, we base off of 391 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,360 what's already on the books or what we 392 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:32,720 feel very confident will be on the 393 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,320 books. So, I anticipate those the 394 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,240 revenue numbers to be even higher than 395 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,679 what we've budgeted and we'll adjust 396 00:19:37,679 --> 00:19:40,320 that at uh midyear projections. 397 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,919 >> Okay, fair enough. And uh I assume the uh there for a while we had seniors 398 00:19:45,919 --> 00:19:47,600 coming in here on a regular basis saying 399 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,280 that they were shut out of the 400 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,280 nanitorium. I assume that was all 401 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,720 related to our uh rework of the HVAC, 402 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,240 the deck, all that stuff that we were 403 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,440 doing because we haven't seen uh seniors 404 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,120 in here complain about it. Would that be 405 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:03,200 a fair assessment? That's part of it. Um 406 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,960 I will say some of our group fitness 407 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,039 classes that are attractive to our 408 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:10,000 senior members um with us trying to find 409 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,600 space in the pool with that's very 410 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,320 limited and so we could offer more group 411 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,640 fitness classes for that demographic but 412 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,240 we're just so limited on space that we 413 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,600 have to be strategic about what we 414 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,120 offer. So there still is an additional 415 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:23,039 demand but as far as the facility 416 00:20:23,039 --> 00:20:24,559 remaining open and available to our 417 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:26,480 members that has been happening. 418 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,640 >> Okay. All right. Thank you very much. 419 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:35,669 And then uh on 420 00:20:35,679 --> 00:20:37,760 slide 427 421 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,400 uh in our packet. It's got uh it's yeah, 422 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,919 right there it shows uh the assess value 423 00:20:45,919 --> 00:20:48,080 for Brazor County, Fort Ben, Harris 424 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,919 County. Um I don't know if this is 425 00:20:49,919 --> 00:20:53,280 Victor or Trent. Um but it shows Brazor 426 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,440 and Fort Ben uh with basic drops and 427 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,120 Harris County with increases. Uh, is 428 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:05,440 that due to uh our our industrial stuff 429 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,960 going out or going up on uh our lower 430 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,679 curvy stuff? Is that a safe assessment 431 00:21:11,679 --> 00:21:14,240 in that? Because we got two counties 432 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:20,549 going down and and one going up. 433 00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:22,320 » Your assessment is correct. 434 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,760 >> Okay. And then uh as far as the the 435 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,280 assess value going down, I assume is 436 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,840 that the advalorum tax for the 437 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,919 2500 to 125,000. 438 00:21:31,919 --> 00:21:32,960 >> That's absolutely right. That's what it 439 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,880 is. Yeah, that's about that's over 170 440 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,080 million in itself. 441 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,280 >> Okay, that's what that's what I was 442 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,440 assuming and I just want clarification. 443 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,000 Thank you, 444 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,480 >> council members. 445 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,520 Member K. No, member Kate. 446 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,799 >> Hey, just on slide four is revenue by 447 00:21:50,799 --> 00:21:54,400 department. Oh, sorry. Thank you. 448 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,960 This FY26, that column doesn't add up 449 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,440 for me. 450 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:27,590 I think it's missing. 451 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,080 I missed something. 452 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,760 >> Uh, I don't know. We can look into it. 453 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,280 >> You can tell me I'm wrong. It's fine. I 454 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,799 just 455 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:37,200 I did. You 456 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,200 member Fernandez is adding in saying I'm 457 00:22:39,200 --> 00:23:12,470 wrong. 458 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,320 While we participate in this exercise, 459 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,840 I'll pass it to member Byron. 460 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,440 >> Council member Fernandez got it. It's 461 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,320 right. Thank you. Sorry. Sorry I broke 462 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,280 the meeting for a minute. 463 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,240 >> No, all questions are valid. Thank you. 464 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,400 >> Thanks, Levity. It's great. 465 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,960 >> Thank you, Mr. U. 466 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,960 back on page three of the packet that 467 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,200 member Koser was talking about just just 468 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,880 as kind of a note if we can that cost 469 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,440 recovery goal 75% for FY26 FY27 470 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,039 like to make sure we talk about that 471 00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:46,880 when we get to strategic planning next 472 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,960 year to to look at what that cost 473 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,600 recovery goal is moving forward because 474 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,120 I think through different conversations 475 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:54,480 we've had we want to get that cost 476 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,000 recovery goal back to 100 and I think 477 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,159 that's where you're headed anyway. Um I 478 00:23:58,159 --> 00:23:59,440 just want to make sure we we have that 479 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,039 as a target to discuss. 480 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,520 >> Sure. And just I think to clarify the 481 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,840 goal never had been set at 100. I think 482 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,559 at one point we 483 00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:10,080 >> got over that with the way we were 484 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,080 calculating it. We did come back and 485 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,559 revamp making sure we were capturing 486 00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:17,039 some of the cost to operate it that 487 00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:18,480 maybe weren't captured in the early 488 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,880 years. So I'm not sure we ever got as 489 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,520 high as it was stated at one point. But 490 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,320 um if if the if the ask is to revisit 491 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,240 what the cost recovery goal is then yeah 492 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,240 we definitely get that on the 493 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,240 >> on the radar. Yes. 494 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,559 >> Certainly not putting forth a direction 495 00:24:34,559 --> 00:24:35,840 other than just say I want to make sure 496 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,240 we talk about that when we get to 497 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,919 strategic planning. Um, also just you 498 00:24:41,919 --> 00:24:43,440 guys have kind of answered this offline, 499 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,120 but just for uh public record in our 500 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:49,200 memo, it talked about under our IT 501 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,159 strategic plan that there were 49 502 00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:55,200 initiatives. Um, 11 of those have been 503 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,360 completed, which is great. Seven of 504 00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,360 those were moved to day-to-day 505 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:02,559 operational budget functions. one was 506 00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:04,480 removed altogether, 507 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,480 which leaves about 30 initiatives from 508 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,080 the original IT strategic plan that 509 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,159 weren't listed in the memo. As I 510 00:25:12,159 --> 00:25:13,600 understand it, there's another memo 511 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,240 coming out in a couple of months that 512 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,520 will more detail that. Um, and I'm 513 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,000 hoping when that memo comes out, it 514 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,600 details 515 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,120 how much we have left because that 516 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:26,799 original strategic plan called for about 517 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:29,520 $26 million worth of investment over 518 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,120 some period of time with 519 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,120 18 of those being taken care of. I 520 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:36,480 assume that number would be slightly 521 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,240 different, but we make sure when we get 522 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,159 that memo, it kind of has that cost 523 00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:45,440 projection in it as well. Um, 524 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,400 I think I had 525 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,520 one other question that I had 526 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,159 for Rachel. The TUR, remind me again, 527 00:25:54,159 --> 00:25:56,960 the TUR administrative fee is roughly 528 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,520 about 60% of the taxable value. Is that 529 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:07,029 right? 530 00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,279 It's about Yeah, it's about 60% of the 531 00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:11,600 property taxes collected in the tours. 532 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:11,919 >> Okay. 533 00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:12,640 >> Roughly. 534 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,039 >> Okay. [clears throat] Other than that, I 535 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:16,960 just want to say thank you guys for your 536 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,760 work on this budget and for coming in 537 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,240 below no new revenue. That's always 538 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,679 great. I know y'all put a lot of effort 539 00:26:23,679 --> 00:26:26,240 in this year at revamping the way you 540 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,679 approach the budget, looking at your 541 00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:29,760 departments, making cuts where you need 542 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,679 it, and so I know the taxpayers 543 00:26:31,679 --> 00:26:32,880 appreciate it, and I appreciate it as 544 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,000 well. So, thank you guys. 545 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,799 >> Fernandez, thank you, mayor. Uh, I 546 00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:42,799 believe slide 20 out of 27. 547 00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:45,520 Trent, can you uh maybe give a little 548 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,679 bit more um how do you 549 00:26:49,679 --> 00:26:52,080 20 out of 27 the fire department's 550 00:26:52,080 --> 00:27:00,470 proposed new fees? 551 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,279 Okay. Um just a little bit more context 552 00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:06,240 on how are these fees gathered? Um, I 553 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,960 see that it says similar to the existing 554 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,520 emergency medical services cost recovery 555 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,960 fees, but h how are we how do we gather 556 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,480 that? Do we compare it to other cities 557 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,480 or how do we get to these numbers? 558 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,919 >> So, how do we come up with the actual 559 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:23,590 fee amounts? 560 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,440 And then off the fire, you got that 561 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:25,919 Chad? 562 00:27:25,919 --> 00:27:30,080 >> Yeah, so uh these fees are kind of set 563 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,039 based on what other cities are doing. 564 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:35,919 Correct, Chief? Um, and they would be 565 00:27:35,919 --> 00:27:38,159 build through Emergon, which is the 566 00:27:38,159 --> 00:27:39,760 company that we currently use to bill 567 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,990 for EMS services. 568 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,200 » Okay. Um, I also want to echo um, 569 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,840 Councilman Byum's uh, comments. Great 570 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,120 job to the staff, everyone that put in 571 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:56,080 um, to make this possible. we um came 572 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,760 together in February or at the end of 573 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,360 January at our retreat to give a um 574 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,080 request for a no new revenue rate and 575 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,840 y'all exceeded that. So I just want to 576 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,000 say thank thank you to all those that 577 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,760 made that possible. Thank you. 578 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,960 >> Mayor Pim Shri, 579 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,640 >> thank you mayor. Um I have a quick 580 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,600 question on page three. How often do we 581 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,760 look at our membership fees and increase 582 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,159 those fees for RCN? Is it done every 583 00:28:22,159 --> 00:28:25,200 other year, once a year? Um when was the 584 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,720 last time we increased membership fees? 585 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,799 >> So we increased our membership fees last 586 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:34,000 year and then we are following the um 587 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,159 consumer price index for in regular 588 00:28:36,159 --> 00:28:37,840 increases and so as soon as our 589 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,080 membership rates hit an even number then 590 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,440 we'll increase we'll come back to you 591 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,440 all with a proposed increase. 592 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,200 >> Okay. Thank you. And then Trent, can we 593 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,080 have a breakdown of what percentage of 594 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,720 salaries would be allocated to fire and 595 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,480 police and then what's for everything 596 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,320 else in general fund? That makes sense. 597 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,399 >> So the percentage of salaries dedicated 598 00:28:58,399 --> 00:29:00,399 to fire and police, I think it's around 599 00:29:00,399 --> 00:29:02,480 679. 600 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,120 >> We actually have a slide if you want us 601 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,039 to display that which will show that for 602 00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:07,440 you. 603 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:16,310 >> Yes, please. 604 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,520 So you will see police at 40.8 and fire 605 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,120 at 26 and a half. 606 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,640 >> Okay. And then so that would leave what? 607 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,679 32 32% would just be general fund for 608 00:29:27,679 --> 00:29:28,799 all the other salaries. Correct. 609 00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:29,520 >> Excellently. 610 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,520 >> Okay. Thank you. It's a good slide. 611 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:37,110 Thanks, 612 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,310 » Council Eckles. 613 00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:40,320 » [clears throat] 614 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,840 >> Yes, I too would like to say thank you 615 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,760 much to the staff for your hard work on 616 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,000 this budget. 617 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,159 When we asked for no new revenue, I knew 618 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:52,399 that was going to be a challenge and 619 00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:56,240 then when the state went from 2500 to 620 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:05,760 225 on Abduren deduction, uh that put a big strain as well. So it's much 621 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,960 appreciated. Uh two questions. One 622 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,399 question would be on the fees for the 623 00:30:12,399 --> 00:30:17,520 fire. Uh what percentage of these fees 624 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,480 do we feel like will be attainable on on 625 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,720 receiving through insuranceances and and 626 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,240 other needs where whereby we usually 627 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,799 write off the [snorts] the unpaid 628 00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:31,840 balance of insurance. So, of the 629 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,960 practicality of these fees, what 630 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,159 percentage should we look look at being 631 00:30:38,159 --> 00:30:40,080 able to collect and what percentage 632 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,039 would we need to write off? 633 00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:46,640 >> Um, so Emergon says that statewide 634 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,039 they're able to collect about 30%. 635 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:50,559 >> Okay, 636 00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:54,320 that's that's reasonable. And second 637 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,480 question is on animal services. 638 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,840 Be being a uh pet owner and some of 639 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,720 these services that we we have here is 640 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,200 uh far far less than services provided 641 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,279 by any local veterinarian clinic. Um, is 642 00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:17,679 there any way we could look at these 643 00:31:17,679 --> 00:31:22,399 fees and not saying be exactly that of 644 00:31:22,399 --> 00:31:25,120 the private veterinarian, but we're 645 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,840 staffing a veterinarian, we're paying 646 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,640 their salary, paying the medication. Is 647 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,120 there a way that we could look at a more 648 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,320 structured fee that would correlate with 649 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,240 the uh commercial entities that are the 650 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,720 veterinarians in the area? 651 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,760 >> So, generally speaking, um where our 652 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,360 fees are coming from is through our 653 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,360 contracts with the animal animal 654 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,399 disposal service that we have. Uh so, 655 00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:56,880 this is this gives us a cost recovery on 656 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,480 that plus a little bit of profit. I'm 657 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,080 not sure. Chief, do you know the exact 658 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,480 percent? 659 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,399 >> I don't know the exact percent. Um, we 660 00:32:04,399 --> 00:32:07,519 can we can get you that data. I know we 661 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:09,679 have we can get you that information. 662 00:32:09,679 --> 00:32:11,600 Generally speaking, we don't do a whole 663 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,679 lot of these. Uh, Council Member Eckles, 664 00:32:13,679 --> 00:32:16,640 this is kind of more um sometimes people 665 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,240 that don't have their own vet services 666 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,840 and they're just they're not sure what 667 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,000 to do with a deceased animal uh that 668 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,760 they own. And so a lot of times we get 669 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,519 them that route. 670 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:28,240 um we have very few pets actually 671 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,720 surrendered to us uh in part because we 672 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,240 don't generally have the capacity to 673 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,320 take that on. And then as far as the 674 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,640 microchip implant, while you see that 675 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,519 going down actually uh that's because a 676 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:41,279 few years back we changed our city 677 00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:44,799 ordinance to um get rid of uh pet 678 00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:46,960 registrations as in like tags and 679 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,640 there's instead a requirement for 680 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,960 microchipping. And so that's kind of our 681 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,960 part to help encourage our public to get 682 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,640 the animals microchipped. But we 683 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,279 actually do that inhouse. Uh so we our 684 00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:59,919 expense there is basically what's there 685 00:32:59,919 --> 00:33:01,120 is the fee. 686 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,310 >> Okay. Thank you so much. 687 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,880 » Patel. 688 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,760 >> Thank you mayor. Um 689 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,159 trying I'm going to take the road that's 690 00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:16,559 not popular but 691 00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:20,240 um I had asked you to provide the gross 692 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,120 employee salaries or payment. And what I 693 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,919 would like to do is on the budget to 694 00:33:25,919 --> 00:33:30,080 include that full um I guess for the 695 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,279 past 12 months and include that. You can 696 00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:36,720 take names out but keep the positions. I 697 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,399 think it's important for transparency 698 00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:42,240 that we share with our constituents what 699 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,760 salaries we're paying when we're talking 700 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,640 about 70% of their taxes going towards 701 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,559 uh payments. 702 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:51,840 Also, I would like to have this council 703 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,559 consider including all vendor payments 704 00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,799 included in our budget for the past 12 705 00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:00,000 months. I think it's important for again 706 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,760 constituents to see um who our vendors 707 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,840 are and where our dollars are going 708 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,000 towards either consultants, engineers, 709 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,040 and whatnot. 710 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,639 Um is Dan here in it? Hey Dan. Um, how 711 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:24,869 many softwares do you guys support? 712 00:34:24,879 --> 00:34:29,440 » Uh, paid or not paid or all together? 713 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,119 >> Probably upwards of 200. 714 00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:35,359 >> We have 700 employees and we have over 715 00:34:35,359 --> 00:34:38,399 200 softwares we're supporting 716 00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:41,040 >> roughly. Yes. But 717 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,440 I mean, you're talking like Adobe Reader 718 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,399 and all of that. 719 00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:45,040 >> Sure. 720 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,079 >> And 721 00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:49,919 >> so I guess the exercise would be Dan um 722 00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:51,919 and and maybe this is the next next 723 00:34:51,919 --> 00:34:55,200 year's budget. What are we really what 724 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,040 areas can we really cut back, right? 725 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,560 Especially on the ones that are costing 726 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,040 us. Is there an opportunity there to 727 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,160 consolidate uh some of this? or if if 728 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,079 the group is really small that's using 729 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:08,400 it, is there a way we can get them off 730 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,880 if if there's cost association 731 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,320 associated with it? And I guess how much 732 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,440 time are you guys spending on 733 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,599 maintaining it? Right. If my 734 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:17,040 understanding is correctly, you have 14 735 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,839 people in your department. 736 00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:21,599 >> Uh 20 25, 737 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:25,680 >> sorry. Okay. Uh 25 people. So I mean I 738 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,160 think it's kind of it's worth looking 739 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,960 at, right? the IT software supporting 740 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,920 that many software among people and what 741 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,720 the usage is. So just a suggestion but I 742 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,240 think it's worth looking at and maybe we 743 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:40,560 can send that money somewhere else if if 744 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:45,040 that's possible at all suggestion. 745 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,240 Um Trent, how many I guess open 746 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:50,000 positions do we still have that we don't 747 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,670 fill on an average that we have funded? 748 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,240 I don't know if someone from HR can 749 00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:01,520 speak to kind of what that rolling 750 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,400 number looks like. If not, we can get it 751 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,119 to you. 752 00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:06,880 >> Okay. And I guess what's the dollar 753 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,560 amount attached to it and what's the 754 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,240 average if it's 6 months, 12 months that 755 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,400 we're rolling these positions? because 756 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,720 if there are open positions that are not 757 00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:17,359 being filled, um either we need to 758 00:36:17,359 --> 00:36:20,079 eliminate those positions, um maybe we 759 00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:23,119 can take that fund and percentage- wise 760 00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:24,480 increase it for somebody else who's 761 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,240 already doing that work, but maybe we 762 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,079 don't need that position. So, I think 763 00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:29,359 >> I don't think we've got any positions 764 00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:31,359 that we don't fill on a regular basis 765 00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:33,280 when they become open that we move 766 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,119 forward and fill those. 767 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:36,960 >> Well, I mean, again, if it's if it's 768 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,240 long enough, is it really needed? And 769 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:41,839 again, if you don't know how long those 770 00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:43,359 positions have been open, I don't I 771 00:36:43,359 --> 00:36:44,800 don't know the answers. I'm just asking. 772 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,480 >> Sure. I mean, we have those statistics. 773 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,800 But the one of the things we do, um, you 774 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,800 know, there's areas where we we know we 775 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,760 have, uh, we need the capacity. We fill 776 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,320 those positions. Um, but we do look at 777 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,560 positions as they come open and and look 778 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,960 at them from a standpoint of, uh, do we 779 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,920 h still have that need? Um, is there a 780 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,000 greater need elsewhere? Can we better 781 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,320 employ that somewhere else or in a 782 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,240 different way? um when we have positions 783 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:12,320 come up. So, we don't just automatically 784 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,839 say yes every time. We're just going to 785 00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:15,440 fill these positions without thinking 786 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,000 about um what we're doing and and how 787 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,599 our business is changing and what our 788 00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,480 current u most pressing needs are. 789 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,200 >> Okay. And and again, I guess the 790 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,960 question that goes back to that position 791 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,320 being open or or uh exposed or unfilled 792 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,640 for however many is two months or six 793 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,440 months. Um I guess the salary on that 794 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,079 position would go to your fund balance. 795 00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:39,280 Correct. 796 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,800 >> If it's unutilized. 797 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,599 >> That's correct. 798 00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:44,320 >> Okay. So, I guess what's that balance 799 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,560 for last fiscal year that we have 800 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,240 position these positions or the 801 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:49,920 departments able to use that money for 802 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,040 some other line item? 803 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,119 >> So, we do not allow that to be used for 804 00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:55,040 some other line item by the departments. 805 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,079 Uh usually um that's accounted for as we 806 00:37:58,079 --> 00:37:59,599 go through the budget amendments dealing 807 00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:01,839 with uh like this year. You know, a lot 808 00:38:01,839 --> 00:38:03,599 of years we've had where we have salary 809 00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,000 savings that is um if we have any 810 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,680 overtime expenditures that are necessary 811 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,000 somewhere, they help cover those. Um or 812 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,920 they fall to the fund balance and and we 813 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,200 utilize them through a budget amendment 814 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,359 process or with this year um with some 815 00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:20,400 uh very tenured employees uh retiring, 816 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,720 there are the the acrrual payouts, which 817 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:24,880 we haven't traditionally budgeted the 818 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,400 full amount of those and we've always 819 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,680 used salary savings to pay those out. So 820 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,760 this year, I believe we pretty much used 821 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,760 all that for those uh those u long 822 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,720 tenure employees that left the city. Um 823 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:40,800 and I think and so looking at that how 824 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,960 that worked this year, we're actually 825 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,400 building some more of that into the 826 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,920 budget to make sure where we have known 827 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,359 retirements and things like that. We're 828 00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:49,520 budgeting for that, not relying upon 829 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,760 salary savings to do those things. Okay? 830 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,839 >> But we do not, you know, we just don't 831 00:38:53,839 --> 00:38:55,760 allow those to be used in any way. they 832 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,680 go towards those sort of things or they 833 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,200 come back through the budget process. 834 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,720 >> Yeah. And that's fine. Um and and I know 835 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:04,640 we're buying I think what is it 43 836 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,079 vehicles I read. Right. Um and I'm going 837 00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:10,240 to last year or year before I had 838 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:12,720 mentioned considering doing EVs for 839 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:15,119 certain departments, right? Uh we have 840 00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:19,839 this new um maintenance uh I guess 841 00:39:19,839 --> 00:39:23,040 building we built out there. Um, and 842 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,200 again, I know in Houston they do use a 843 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,200 lot of hybrid uh vehicles for 844 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,000 inspections and co code enforcements. 845 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,079 Um, and I know we end up always buying 846 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:34,560 trucks. It seems like for most of our 847 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,079 um, so if there's an opportunity, uh, I 848 00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:39,520 think it'll be worth it. I think it'll 849 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,760 be, again, I know there will be some 850 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,680 cost incurred for charging stations and 851 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,920 stuff to put those in there. Uh but 852 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,520 since we have a new facility, I hope 853 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,000 that we have the uh power and and again 854 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,520 it's a long-term plan, but I think it's 855 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,280 worth looking at it. [snorts] Um 856 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,800 >> I think we can look at that, but we we 857 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,040 have vehicles that sit at multiple 858 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,960 locations every evening. We have 859 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,680 vehicles that go home. So I think that 860 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,920 we've got to consider that as far as, 861 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,842 you know, going to that type of vehicle 862 00:40:05,842 --> 00:40:07,200 [snorts] and and it wouldn't be just 863 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,800 putting the infrastructure in at the new 864 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,560 fleet services facility. It' be every 865 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,359 building we have. 866 00:40:11,359 --> 00:40:13,280 >> And I guess that that's a fair point. We 867 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,400 can we can ask. 868 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,720 >> Yeah, I mean it's uh I think it's 10 869 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,800 grand per charger to put it in overnight 870 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,720 charger. So um I guess that's my take on 871 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:24,400 this. I think it's uh worth looking at 872 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,320 it. But the other other thing I'll tell 873 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,000 you, Carrie, I know we a couple of 874 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,480 council members mentioned cost recovery. 875 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,960 Uh the goal is 100, but I guess you're 876 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,680 not including capex on that. that's just 877 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,720 breaking even to operate that buildings 878 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:42,160 down there in Nitorium and the uh 879 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,520 >> it doesn't include any of the capital 880 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,200 cost and it also doesn't include any of 881 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,880 the cost of some of the programs that 882 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,320 happen in the facility such as our 883 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,119 summer camps um basketball leagues uh 884 00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:52,640 pickle ball leagues. Once you add in 885 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,880 those you're adding if they if we were 886 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,960 to have to pay to rent space for those 887 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,280 you're looking at about $460,000 888 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,560 in additional cost. 889 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,800 >> Yeah. And I think and I think I want 890 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,920 council to kind of understand that um 891 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,480 you know Carrie mentioned HVAC is I 892 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,839 guess you just had it repaired right? 893 00:41:11,839 --> 00:41:12,240 >> Yes. 894 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,560 >> Uh but that that cost is going to 895 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,839 probably come due and remember Byron you 896 00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:19,839 can probably tell us better but I feel 897 00:41:19,839 --> 00:41:21,760 like HR every 7 to 10 years you got to 898 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,400 rip them out and and start it over. Uh 899 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,720 and I think we should make it a point 900 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:28,560 with all departments to say you need to 901 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,160 budget just like we do with the motor 902 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,160 pool funds and stuff like that. Same 903 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,079 thing with the niatorum to say hey you guys need to put the capex 904 00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:39,280 consideration into your budget and start 905 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,240 budgeting this right we got lucky with 906 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:45,200 the Periland ISD paying for to exit the 907 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,280 contract. That's why we were able to 908 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,440 correct me if I'm wrong $3.5 million. 909 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,839 >> That's correct. So, we were able to use 910 00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:53,119 that, but otherwise that would have been 911 00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:57,760 a hit on our P&L, right? Um, and so, and 912 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,839 I think, you know, one of the big costs 913 00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:02,560 when I look at this, it's it's kind of 914 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,640 one thing I would ask you, Trent, again, 915 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,480 I know we got the meet and confer for 916 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,839 the police and we're going to do with 917 00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:11,839 the fire. Um, what is that five-year I 918 00:42:11,839 --> 00:42:14,079 guess what I would ask you to do and 919 00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:15,920 what this council should understand is 920 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,839 what a stress test looks like, right? Um 921 00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:22,560 what does it look like if if let's say 922 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,560 we do have another recession and the 923 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,480 values plummet and we have all these 924 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,200 agreements out there and the percentage 925 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,359 are guaranteed what does that stress 926 00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:34,480 test look like for us right and and I 927 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,560 think it's very it would be uh 928 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,440 irresponsible of council to just look at 929 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,920 one year today and not consider what it 930 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,359 does it look like in three and five 931 00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:45,680 years and so what I would ask you is to 932 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,440 do a stress test on this like what's the 933 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,280 worst case scenar scenario and what does 934 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,040 that worst case scenario looks like, 935 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,599 right? Um, if we're going to consider 936 00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:58,800 dropping the 90-day uh funds um to let's 937 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,079 say 75 days, right, fund balance, well, 938 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:04,000 does a stress test hold up? And that 939 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,280 that's really important to kind of 940 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,400 consider that. Um, and and I know we're kind of celebrating that we went 941 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,359 below no new revenue tax uh rate and 942 00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:17,040 that's great and I appreciate that. Um, 943 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,560 but I don't think any of us really 944 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,160 realized there was going to be 120. At 945 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,520 least I did not. And I'll take 946 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,599 responsibility that this new $125,000 947 00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:28,960 um uh exemption businesses were going to 948 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,880 get were going to be that impactful for 949 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,920 our community. So, you know, we can we 950 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,359 can go around and say, "Hey, we reduced 951 00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:37,200 your tax from last year, but just keep 952 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,079 in mind your tax bill is going to go up. 953 00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:41,599 The tax bill is going to go up on 954 00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:44,720 everybody." So, um, a couple of other 955 00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:48,240 things. Trent, um, you know, I do 956 00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:52,400 appreciate, um, the staff getting market 957 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,319 salary and that's I don't have a problem 958 00:43:54,319 --> 00:43:56,640 with that, but does that mean that they 959 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,040 are above 50 percentile? I guess are 960 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,040 they above 50 or they below 50? 961 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,839 The the goal on our compensation plan 962 00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:08,480 outside of public safety was to set our 963 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,280 plan basically at the market. So our our 964 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,319 midpoints are at the market. Our our 965 00:44:14,319 --> 00:44:17,119 starting point is generally at the 966 00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:18,880 market and our top end is generally at 967 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,800 the market. So at any point during 968 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,640 anyone's career based on their 969 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,640 experience where they fall in that they 970 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,160 should be basically um at or near the 971 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,920 market. Okay. Well, and I guess for me, 972 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,880 um, what I would also ask in most 973 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,400 businesses, and I know we're not in a 974 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,040 business here, but if we don't consider 975 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,280 it, uh, there should be a cap on 976 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,359 everybody's salary. There should be a 977 00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:44,720 certain point, you got to put a cap on 978 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:49,040 the salary. Um, and I think it it's it's 979 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,319 important if you're going to look at 980 00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:53,280 this long term, um, that we're very 981 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,440 clear on you can't have 982 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,040 certain people, and this is why I want 983 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,079 that, uh, the pay that we have paid. We 984 00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:05,040 I think our city does well. I think we 985 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,280 pay fair. Uh, and I think it's important 986 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,960 for constituents to be able to see what 987 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,000 we have paid. Um, and the reason I say 988 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,760 that is, um, we cannot continue to 989 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,240 always go up 3 or 4%. Because a 990 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,720 compounding will kill us in the future. 991 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:22,560 It won't be our problem, but it will be 992 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,800 the next council or maybe the third term 993 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,200 council's problem to deal with. Uh, 994 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,720 especially with this uh, meet and 995 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:32,880 confer. So I think I know this is a 996 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,960 maybe too late of a game but I think it 997 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,560 is very important that we have this 998 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,319 discussion and I would like to kind of 999 00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:40,880 get a feedback on council on uh to be 1000 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,000 able to approve including vendors 1001 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,800 payment and um salary payments that we 1002 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,880 paid to our employees. Thank you. 1003 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,200 >> Thank you for those couple things there. 1004 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,280 Um so um we do include the pay plans in 1005 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,599 the budget. So that does show the range 1006 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,560 by position 1007 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,880 and I while if we want to share the 1008 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,960 information on vendor pay I think we can 1009 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,480 find the appropriate way to do that. I'm 1010 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,640 not sure it's a something to attach to 1011 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,920 the budget. So yeah. Yeah. I think look 1012 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,000 again my point is we talk about 1013 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,359 transparency all the time. And you know 1014 00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:21,920 I think even I was shocked when I saw 1015 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,079 last last year year before when you 1016 00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:27,440 first gave me the um the payment right 1017 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,079 for what we have paid our our our team 1018 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,319 and which is fine but I think it's 1019 00:46:32,319 --> 00:46:34,400 important to understand that that what 1020 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,560 people do make with the city. I think 1021 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,079 it's important. I think it's important 1022 00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:39,839 for our constituents to be able to see, 1023 00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:41,520 hey, people are getting paid pretty 1024 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,640 well. Um, so I have and again, there's 1025 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,200 nothing to hide in the city. Show it, 1026 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,079 right? 1027 00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:50,640 >> Member Patel, I understood. I think your 1028 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,760 points are well received. I know I trust 1029 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,720 that Mr. Eper will find an appropriate 1030 00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,040 way to deliver the information as 1031 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,280 requested based on uh the concerns. Um, 1032 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,680 I know we're talking about budget, so 1033 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,280 we're concerning uh our taxpayers and 1034 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,760 residents. Um, and I think the 1035 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,359 conversations that we're having are um a 1036 00:47:15,359 --> 00:47:18,240 result of the situation that we find 1037 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:21,680 ourselves in and that uh as mentioned in 1038 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,640 an earlier budget discussion that the no 1039 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,280 new revenue rate is not sustainable 1040 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,640 because there are other factors 1041 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,400 impacting uh our city services. And I 1042 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,079 think your points are wellreceived, 1043 00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:35,839 member Patel, as well as every other 1044 00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:38,720 member up here. So, as we move forward 1045 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:41,599 in uh potentially the next adoption or 1046 00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:44,960 the adoption, um I think going into the 1047 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,200 next next year in the strategic planning 1048 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,400 session, uh we're going to have to make 1049 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,560 some really really important and 1050 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,480 difficult decisions on behalf of the 1051 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,800 residents here uh for us to continue to 1052 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,720 deliver the quality of life and quality 1053 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:01,119 of services that we expect. 1054 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:06,000 um all points said and um really well 1055 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,800 taken and I hope and we acknowledge the 1056 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,599 work the staff has put in. So at this 1057 00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:13,839 particular time I don't think there are 1058 00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:17,359 any other comments or suggestions. Um so 1059 00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:20,319 with that being said um we can move on 1060 00:48:20,319 --> 00:48:25,119 to the next item um on the agenda which 1061 00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:28,800 is uh believe 1062 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:37,190 executive session 1063 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,200 happy to do that. that leaves us 15 1064 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,800 minutes and if we're not able to finish 1065 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,400 then then we may um recess that meeting 1066 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,240 and come back if there's time after the 1067 00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:48,400 joint public workshop 1068 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:54,000 >> or uh we'll do that at the end. Um but I think that's a question for city 1069 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,960 council um if if we think I think y'all 1070 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,599 know what I'm intending to talk about uh 1071 00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:01,760 whether 15 minutes is sufficient time to 1072 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,920 do that. I'm seeing two or three head 1073 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,000 nose head and shakes not nods which is 1074 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,440 why I'm asking the question. 1075 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,079 >> Okay. I'm looking at I'm trying to count 1076 00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:14,240 as well. It looks like there's some 1077 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:18,240 consensus. Member Kade 1078 00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,880 got three 1079 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,920 executive session. 1080 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,400 >> Do you want to do the exec session now 1081 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,079 uh and then come back? 1082 00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:27,760 >> Three nos. 1083 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,520 >> Okay. 1084 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:30,720 Are we gonna 1085 00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:31,839 >> Well, I didn't answer. 1086 00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:33,040 >> We're not gonna we're not going to have 1087 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,440 time. So, I think the right 1088 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,400 >> one remember because of that's only one 1089 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,079 next. 1090 00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:42,640 >> Our next meeting starts at five. So, 1091 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:43,599 >> I would just wait. 1092 00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:44,800 >> I would wait until 1093 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,760 >> I would go ahead and wait. 1094 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,200 >> Okay. So, that we don't have a consensus 1095 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,000 to move into executive session. And so 1096 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,200 uh at this particular time 1097 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,119 >> so uh I would recommend that we recess 1098 00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:55,680 instead of adjourn so that we preserve 1099 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,680 the possibility 1100 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,160 if the JPH doesn't take as long as we 1101 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,480 want we can come back to that item 1102 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,800 before the 6:30. 1103 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,480 So recess this meeting 1104 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,319 instead of adjourning it and then that 1105 00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:12,240 preserves that possibility. 1106 00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:13,599 >> Okay. 1107 00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:16,079 >> I appreciate your recommendation Mr. 1108 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:18,480 province. And at this particular time, 1109 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,760 uh, we will recess the special meeting 1110 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,400 for the city of Periland at 4:44