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Today, April 7, 2025, we have quite a lengthy agenda with several presentations and

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sorry. 18 items, thank you. Wow. Okay. So, at this time, I'm going to turn it over to our city manager.

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Okay, good evening, mayor and council.

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Good evening.

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Tonight, first off, we're going to start with Emma Kamenski from CEP.

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And we've got Janelle.

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It's Janelle, come see your last name.

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Because Eric, from CEP also, and they are our sustainability coordinators.

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I'm going to give Emma some time to load up the presentation that they have.

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that they are here to talk to us about the resiliency action plan.

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And this is the second plan.

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You guys have worked on with us.

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So the first one was the climate action plan.

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And you should note that the climate action plan has been a very important component of our grant strategy.

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And so we actually did not get one of our grants last year because we didn't have the climate action plan.

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But we plan on resimbeding because about three weeks after that, when went through, we passed

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for adoption that climate action plan.

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So this is another very well thought out plan and they've done some really good work accessing

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knowledge from our department heads.

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So Emma, I'm going to let you take it over here.

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Thanks, Matt.

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Firstly, we want to say thank you very much to the council for having us to speak here today,

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regarding the city of peak skilled climate vulnerability assessment and adaptation plan, which is

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other as known as the C-BAP. My name is Emma Kaminsky. I'm the city's sustainability coordinator

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through the Center for Economic and Environmental Partnership, and this is Janelle Kiseric,

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Executive Director at C-B, who has been supporting this working out. The work will be presenting

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today as well as all previous climate action planning has been completed through the Hudson Valley Regional

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Council's Climate Action Planning Institute with support from EquUSA and internally from

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the Planning Department, City Manager's Office and the CAC, the Conservation Advisory Council.

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In our last presentation to this council several months ago in 2024, we covered the climate

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action plan, which is a plan for mitigating greenhouse gas emissions from municipal sources.

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So that plan has since been adopted and in today's presentation, we are going through the C-VAP

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which is a separate but related set of documents that

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complements and expands upon the climate action plan.

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Okay, so what exactly is the C-VAP?

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It's composed of two different sections.

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The CVA or climate vulnerability assessment and the adaptation plan.

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The CVA is an assessment of peak skills assets systems populations and the risk that they face

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as a result of local effects of climate change.

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So the goal that one is to understand what climate

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vulnerabilities are particular to piece to go.

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The adaptation plan outlines strategies that

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prepare the city to better withstand the climate threats

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and then adapt to the new normal climate and weather conditions.

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The goal of that adaptation plan is to compile

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a list of feasible and impactful and equitable strategies

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that address the vulnerabilities that were identified in the CBI.

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So, in this presentation, we'll cover the time and work.

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The results of the CBA and the recommendations of the adaptation plan.

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Okay, so here's our timeline of work from the first kickoff meeting of Cappy in February,

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2024 to the present.

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The process can be thought of in three separate phases, the research phase,

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which included reading and review of the relevant climate summaries,

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the hazard mitigation plan, and all recommendations from the HRC.

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Then the outreach phase, during which we released and promoted the climate vulnerability survey,

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you may remember, and then the review phase where we actually wrote the assessment and play on,

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based on the results of those previous phases.

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So we're now in the final phase of the copy projects,

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which includes updating the city's website with the most recent draft,

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see-up, this presentation, and following this presentation of final round of revisions to incorporate additional feedback.

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In the near future, we hope to see a formal adoption of the see-up.

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So we can begin the work of implementing its recommendations and then incorporating them into city work, as well as the comprehensive.

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So when we were evaluating the effects of climate change on P-skill, we considered the potential effects of three climate hazards based on the recommendations of the climate impact assessment for New York State.

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The first being increasing temperatures, where the primary risk is he waves extreme heat days and drought.

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The second was rising sea level.

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The Hudson River is of course connected to the Atlantic Ocean,

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and it's water level will rise in proportion to sea level rise.

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So the primary risk is also flooding and changing flood zones.

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The third was changing precipitation patterns,

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which also brings a greater risk of flooding

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in addition to the increased strength and frequency of storms and storm surge.

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So this is not entirely comprehensive.

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There are other climate threats facing the area, but they are not explicitly mentioned in the

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C-bap as they were recommended in the climate impact assessment from your C-bap.

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And those climate hazards are also addressed by the Adam Haitian plant strategies, regardless

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of whether they're mentioned.

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And you'll notice that the most significant hazards that we highlighted here in the C-bap

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are also reflected in the greatest concerns

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that respondents to the climate vulnerability survey.

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So I'm going to pass off to General and get into the results.

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Thank you, Emma.

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You need to adjust your mic.

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How's that?

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Much better, perfect.

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As Emma mentioned, we started this work

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by reaching out to the city of peak-scale community

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to better understand how climate disruption

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has impacted their lives.

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This graph shows the key takeaways discussed by city residents.

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We have also shared with you each of you in the council at the anonymous responses.

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They're in the packets that you received tonight.

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And those will be available.

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Some of the anonymous survey data is also going to be available in the website.

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As you can see, natural hazards such as extreme temperatures, poor air quality and heat waves

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And flooding are the greatest hazards being experienced by residents and what you will find in other areas of the survey is that community members have highlighted that these listed hazards are affecting them in the following ways.

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More than 75% of respondents are either very concerned or extremely concerned about high energy costs due to extreme temperatures.

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Over 70% are very or extremely concerned about the risks to trees and wildlife as well as water and flooding and water infrastructure.

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And over 60% of respondents are also concerned with the health risk associated with rising temperatures.

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And here are just a few resident comments that come from the climate vulnerability survey.

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Just going to pause here for folks to take a few seconds to read these.

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hope you had a chance to read some of these comments and of course all comments are included in the survey packet provided to tonight.

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So we have conducted thorough research, analyze the hazard mitigation plan and engage with residents to better understand the climate-related vulnerabilities that your community faces.

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To bring all of this work together, we developed a list of strategies that the city can implement to both mitigate and adapt to the impacts of climate change and the vulnerabilities identified through our assessment.

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The list was created collaboratively with input from the conservation advisory council, the city planners,

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city manager's office, as well as the police, fire, and water departments.

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Together, we have identified and refined the strategies we believe will be most impactful as the city moves forward in building resilience.

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While the list is extensive, we recommend that the city formally adopt this climate adaptation plan.

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Doing so will ensure that all stakeholders are aligned and can work collaboratively to implement the proposed strategies.

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I'm going to go through each strategy and a little bit more detail.

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Strategy 1.

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In addition to the P-scale emergency notifications system, which is run by P-scale emergency management office,

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we suggest incorporating the distribution of informational pamphlets to the public

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on actions that they can take to minimize their risk during extreme weather events.

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This could go a long way in preparing the public and advanced.

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We suggest partnering with organizations and community groups to ensure a broad outreach,

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and we suggest that the literature be made available in both English and Spanish.

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Strategy 2, we suggest conducting comprehensive reviews of existing city buildings and zoning codes

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to facilitate distributed energy projects, including battery storage

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and geothermal energy initiatives for new, for new construction, we suggest establishing conditions

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such as ensuring zero increase in runoff, constructing structures above the FEMA 100 year

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base flood elevation and implementing robust erosion control measures.

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Strategy 3, we is to identify key locations within the community for implementing green

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infrastructure to effectively manage storm water on our watershed wide basis.

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taking into account combined and separated sewer sheds.

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By strategically targeting these areas,

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the city can address storm water management holistically,

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improving resilience to drought and water quality.

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Strategy 4 is to implement a large scale tree planting program.

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In 2025, the city accepts a complete comprehensive tree inventory

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and management plan funded by a grant from the New York State DEC awarded in 2024.

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Implementing a large scale tree planting program and alignment with the management's plan

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specifications is a logical next step.

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A robust tree planting program will not only help mitigate the urban heat island effect.

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We could also enhance the city's resilience to flooding by expanding permeable surfaces.

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This initiative will contribute to improved air quality increased by a diversity and a more sustainable urban environment.

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Strategy 5 is to implement the recommendations of the tree inventory and management plan with more robust tree monitoring and maintenance.

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A tree board advisory to the Department of Public Works composed of local volunteers with knowledge of tree care and maintenance,

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may be instituted to review cases of tree removal and to ensure the tree ordinance and management plan are adhered to.

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Strategy 6 is to create a map to identify areas of high social vulnerability within peak

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scope, such as low income neighborhoods, proximity to toxic release inventory facilities,

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location in flood areas, and the ages of infrastructure in the area.

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This map would be an invaluable tool for decision making in the future.

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Strategy 7, as dorm events become more frequent and infrastructure continues to age without

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timely replacement. The city must prepare for more regular occurrences of minor utility

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flood failures. The water filtration plan, as an example, has identified their need for emergency

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power.

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Strategy 8. As identified in the hazard mitigation plan, the city currently lacks

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designated emergency evacuation shelters and does not have the necessary shelter equipment.

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Although the city has access to the town of Cortland's emergency shelter trailer, it is likely

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that this resource would be needed by the town itself

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during a large-scale regional disaster.

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Therefore, it is critical for the city

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to establish its own resilience hub.

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A dedicated community center facility that

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can serve as an emergency shelter

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and provide essential services during times of crisis.

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As a city continues to develop its community center,

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there may be opportunities to improve the center's functionality

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and align these efforts to create synergy

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by incorporating emergency resilience functions

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within that space.

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In strategy nine, the last strategy,

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unitsively owned local transportation,

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which is wheelchair accessible,

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and able to be deployed in advance of a weather emergency

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or during events such as high heat days

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will increase the city's capacity to support residents

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who do not have private means of transportation

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or the ability to drive.

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Additionally, it has been highlighted by the fire department

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that the purchase of an inflatable float inflatable boat

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would allow emergency services to access stranded residents

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during heavy flooding events.

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All of these strategies require thoughtful planning,

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coordination, and continued collaboration.

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The stakeholders who have been actively involved

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in this work, including sheep and numerous city departments,

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are well prepared to support implementation efforts.

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We are currently seeking feedback on this plan

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with the ultimate goal of future adoption.

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Adoption of the climate adaptation plan

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will enable city departments and partner organizations to work together more effectively,

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aligning efforts across sectors.

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It will also support the integration of the strategies into the city's comprehensive plan,

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helping to achieve our climate resilience goals in efficient, coordinated and cost-effective matters.

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That is all of the strategies.

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I just want to take a second to thank the Hudson Valley Regional Council,

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especially Mary Lambert for her continuous support.

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Thank you.

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The adoption and creation of this plan. The city managers office and the planning departments, they've been great to work with. And the conservation advisory council, the city has a really excited and energetic council, which is great.

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And to all the participants of the capvy process, and thank you all for hearing us out tonight.

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If you have any questions, we're here to answer them. They could be sent to us either in email or ask tonight.

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Council, any questions? Thank you so much for a very full report.

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Can we go back to page 16, the climate mold of the assessment key takeaways, that's on stream now?

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Yeah, so is there a, this is what survey indicated was the prior, with the major concerns.

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But they probably align with actual data as to the number of heatings, the number of excessive heat days, different forms and stuff like that.

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That would be very difficult to gather to take a look at what records we have of actual weather conditions.

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And actually then see how well balanced it goes.

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I would just suspect it would match up pretty well with what people are concerned.

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But I did occur to me to be, you know, there's opinions and then there's actual data.

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And to the extent we could get the data.

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If it's easy to access, then I would like to see what we could do that.

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the data from the survey or the just the temperature data you're saying.

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The weather data from the region.

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Yeah, I think that would be fairly reasonable to gather and send to you all.

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It's not in the survey the survey was distributed to the residents.

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And so this is anecdotal of how they're experiencing it,

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but we certainly could pull data from weather and the region and send that.

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As I think they're accurate, but it would be nice to certainly, my experience matches what you show here, but it's nice to have

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the heat, the heat, the heat island and all that kind of stuff as we drive through peak school and we get into the summer ages.

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You know, it's just something that's really serious, so.

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Yeah, absolutely. We could share it with Matt.

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Anyone else? Yeah, I just first of all, I want to thank you for all the work that you've done.

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that their conservation advisory councils are near and dear to my heart, and this is a wonderful

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presentation. I'm really glad that you did the reach out to the residents too, because I think

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that even though it is, and I totally think it's very valuable to just feel what to see what people

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are really believing they are feeling, and especially with the heat days, because I mean I can say

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that I think it's way hotter in the summer

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than ever used to be.

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So, and I know the value of trees,

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and I'm happy about that.

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The tree inventory, all that.

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So, thank you.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And what you have in your package,

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I mean, this is just a snippet of the questions

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that were answered, but there is a lot more detail

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in the full survey that would be interesting.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Do you tell us about how many people took the survey?

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Yep, it was 143 respondents.

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I think 43 and they were all residents.

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Correct.

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Anyone else?

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Yes.

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I really appreciate it.

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It's kind of a job.

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Mostly when we talk about floating,

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for me, it's personal.

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I mean, when I was seven years old,

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I was in Dominican Republic.

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Living, there was a agostative first.

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There was a shewark and Dave.

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And I was request and the children of the fighter fighter from my house.

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I never can forget that.

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And in 1993, I had to request my own mother with the fighter fighters in Mayan.

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They were in the second floor.

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It is, I don't know, because you mentioned that you were working with a OEM for the fighter

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department.

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There were identified, like, how can you say, like,

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the more rates or the rate points that we have in the city

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when we talk about flooding, and how many

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is the impact of the population in that area?

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Because I know the, um, prior street,

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we have the migratory brewery right behind the Sun House.

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House is a, uh, it is flooding right there.

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So, oh, so you're curious of how many residents live

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within a flood area?

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Yeah, like in Greece, for the participation there.

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That's not something that I know, all pan,

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but maybe someone in the...

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We did, we did, I did give an information

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about the three risk grants that we received

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in one of the two of the areas mainly have to do

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with flooding impacts, residents and businesses,

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was the Rick McGregor broke and the Hullabrook and the third one has to do with River

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Front flooding.

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But I think that's something that we could try to add.

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I think that would be useful if we looked at real data to add with the Council on us talking

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about you.

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Thank you.

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No, definitely add it to it.

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And the second one is the same question, but no floating like people who are raised in

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area, like, there could be possibility for a landslide, you know, like, that's another thing that we have a lot of heals and everything.

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Oh, how many houses and buildings would be impacted by soil erosion?

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Yeah, that would be nice.

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Okay.

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That would be great. Thank you.

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Thank you for your work on this.

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This is great to see the takeaways that you found with this.

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So it's, it's, it's, it's eye opening, but it's not surprising.

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So thank you for your work.

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Absolutely.

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Thank you so very much.

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Okay. Thank you. Next, the next action for this, Emma, is you'll collect more information.

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We'll represent. Okay.

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We'll come back to you with comments and changes.

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Okay. So next up we have with us Jason Angel and just Jocelyn up at the cello. Yes,

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of ecological citizens project as well as online we have Nora Barger of working power.

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Thank you City Manager Alexander. Good evening Mayor McKenzie, council members.

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So, Johnson was actually not able to make it in person, she's online virtually, so you get the less intelligent portion of our partnership here, but you'll have to deal with that.

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So, my name is Jason Angel, I am the co-director of the local nonprofit, the Ecological Citizens Project.

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we're also joined tonight by our solar development partner Nora from working power if there are

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questions that pertain. And so there are two parts of the discussion tonight. The first part is

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just to give you all a project update of where we are in the Communion Solar Project. I know you all know

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it well. We've been discussing it for a number of years. And part of that discussion that we really

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to focus on tonight was a discussion around the subscriber management strategy of who gets

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energy off of the solar project. And then the second part of the discussion is our request for

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a public interest determination. So we'll start with the first part and please stop me at any time.

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I don't have a PowerPoint, but if you have a question as we go, please feel free to stop me.

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And so we'll start with the project update and the subscriber discussion.

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There are two items in your packet that provides some background material.

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One is a recent status report update to the city managers office of March 3rd.

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There'll be some items that come up in the update.

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And the second is a recent project update to water superintendent Rambo of February 28.

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And those provides some more details.

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So, as you all know, this project, the goal, this project, is to develop the ECPs, the local

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nonprofit, working powers, our solar development partner, the goal is to develop roughly

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two megawatts of non-profit own solar in the city of Peac scale, and the real thing I think

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that distinguishes this project is to maximize community benefits to the city of Peac scale.

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We'll discuss those a little bit more in the public interest determination, but the primary benefits

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are the lease payment to the city, energy bill savings to low and moderate income households

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and the creation of a food sovereignty fund to support local food and security initiatives

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as well as some other community benefits.

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But that's the primary goal.

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We've accomplished a lot of progress.

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Today, it's been a real partnership with the city, with the city manager's office.

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Some of that, progress includes, we've secured $1.4 million in federal state and private

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grant money that allows us to maximize the community benefits.

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Another important piece of work is just working closely with the Peaksville water and sewer department,

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so they can provide input on the project as it's designed and developed.

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That included at their request paying for a third-party independent water quality engineering firm to overlook the project

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and comment on it and ensure, you know, the protection of the water supply.

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Additionally, we've been working very closely with the City Manager in Corporate Council.

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We're nearing a final lease agreement, which would stand for the 25 years of the project.

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We've teamed with the National Floating Solar Leader in the country,

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R2, that has engineered or built 70% of floating solar in America.

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And then we are commencing the permitting process tomorrow night going before the planning commission and which will also begin the site plan review process and the secret process which will discuss a little bit in the public interest determination.

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So really the most important thing that's happening right now this week this has become like project week here. So we're getting the results from the con Edison interconnections study this week.

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And so just a reminder, this is an interconnection study is when the utility analyzes how much capacity the nearby energy infrastructure has to absorb the energy that would be produced by the solar system.

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So we learn that and then we also learn how much it would cost to upgrade the utility infrastructure to handle energy produced by the system.

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and it's just getting back the utility interconnection study

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is something that can, you know, it can kill a project.

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If the costs of upgrading are so high that the project can't sustain it,

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it can kind of change the finances of the project or if we all cross our fingers.

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You know, have you conservative estimates we have in our project model?

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They come in there and we can move forward.

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But it really will.

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We will relate that to the city.

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It will really determine the economic viability of the project and what flexibility we have.

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But it can affect things such as the final level of the community benefits we discussed.

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And it will kind of have some bearing on the final lease agreement decision.

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Some of them will discuss, you know, they're included in that packet such as a cost of holding a decommissioning bond

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from the entire length of the project or considering the construction of a fence near the reservoir.

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Some of these are costs that will be, you know, kind of be part of that interconnection study determination.

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So, we kind of are just letting you all know that's where we are coming.

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I'll stop there before I get into the subscriber's strategy.

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Any questions or so far?

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Should I have any questions?

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Jason, I know you're working with our cases.

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They've started their work and are they coming back with anything of concern?

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Yeah, no.

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They have, I believe, they pretty much completed their work because we've been asked,

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But pay for the escrow account.

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And so they have made a number of recommendations

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to the lease agreement, which have been incorporated

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into the lease agreement draft.

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And while we haven't gotten the final,

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or I don't believe the city has the final deliverable,

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our case is really that with these recommendations

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that they do not have concerns about water quality

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and how we're proposing the project.

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Great, thank you.

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Anyone else?

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There's only about the reservoir floating systems on the reservoir.

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The putting the solar panels on top of the water, buildings, and the other buildings.

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What's going on with in our own garage and stuff like this, where are we with that?

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Good question.

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You're correct.

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So the public interest determination tonight just has to do with the 1.63 megawatts of the floating

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solar. The, the, how we get to two megawatts is the solar on the water treatment plant

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roof. And we kind of put that secondarily because we wanted to find out how much interconnection

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capacity there was for the big project, the 1.63. But we were about to submit interconnection

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to kinetics and for the water treatment plant roof as well. It's gone through an initial

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design that designs gone to the water department. They had some questions about snowguards

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And if those need to be removed, so we're working on a kind of a solution to meet their concern around snow guards and how panels would affect that.

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And the James Street garage, are we still going ahead with that or what happened to that?

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We would love that, but we're not involved with that discussion.

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Yeah, but if the city ever wants to put solar, community on solar on the James Street garage, we would definitely support that as well.

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Let's try and move ahead to the subscriber.

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We need many other questions.

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One question.

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You mentioned that you guys security a fit that are granted one.

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Yes.

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So how now can we say this for sure now?

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Any change for that?

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So that is a really good question.

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Thankfully we got, so that federal grant was for a total of $450,000.

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There were three phases of it.

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So we got $300,000 in the project bank account before anything happened that last $150,000.

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We were supposed to go down to DC and participate in a Department of Energy Forum that got delayed and paused.

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And so, we believe we can still get that last $150,000, but if not, we would be able to get it through lending.

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So, it's only like a $400,000, I heard it was a run one meeting.

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Yes, it's so far out of that 1.4 million, the only money that has not is not in hand is that $150,000 of the federal grant.

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You know, the rest of the other is from NYSERDA, the New York State, federal government, and then private foundations, and so it's that last 150 that we're working on.

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I'm just a big question.

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I heard that it was a 1.4 of federal grants, though.

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I know everybody's worried about that.

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Any other questions?

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I discussed, so the subscriber's shred, oh, was there okay?

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So, the subscriber strategy is really kind of one of the key points we want to get your feedback on,

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because it relates to what happens after we get the interconnection cost back.

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So, when we were first proposing the project, we had proposed a community solar subscriber approach,

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and that is really when our estimates is that the combined solar will produce energy for 400 households.

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We had proposed that half of those households were market rate households and the other half were low and moderate income.

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And so what a community solar approach does is you have to go out and subscribe individually the households into receiving energy credits from your solar project.

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So that was kind of the subscriber strategy we first proposed, since we proposed this project

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and we're awarded the RFP, New York State has released a new program that's called New York

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State Solar for All.

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And what that program does is it's trying to solve a lot of challenges with solar development.

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It automatically enrolls low and moderate income households that qualify for the heat energy

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assistance program, or SNAP, or TANF, or SSI into distributed energy generation projects in

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conenison. And so these are kind of two separate approaches. We can go on. And so the state

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solar for all program would mean that the energy from this project gets distributed to all.

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So while the community solar approach would distribute to 200 low- and moderate income households,

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The state solar for all program would distribute to the 28,

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how, 2800 households in the city of peak scale

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that qualify for heat, tanf, SSI, or SNAP.

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So the reach of the energy would be more,

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but at the same time, the energy bills savings

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would be reduced, because it would be distributed

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across more households, not only in peak scale,

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but across low and moderate income households in Kanebison.

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So we wanted to put that before you,

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because it's a real choice about where the energy goes.

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The reason we're considering it,

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I mean, has the benefit of more reach,

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although those energy savings per household are reduced.

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A key benefit is community solar going out

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and subscribing individual households is really expensive.

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So to give you a sense, we're going to work with a,

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we've been discussing the sustainable Westchester,

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a subscription management partner,

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whose job it is to go and subscribe the 400 households in

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commusual or onto the program, but then also manage it throughout the 25

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years. If someone was not getting their energy bill credits, they call

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its subscription management. If someone leaves peak skill alone, my income,

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then they have to go and subscribe a new household. The estimated costs

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of that commusual approach are about $900,000 over the life of the project.

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So it's a real cost to the project. I mean, to put that perspective,

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that $900,000 is more than the 25-year lease payment to the city, and it's more than the creation

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of the food sovereignty fund, which was kind of one of the driving factors.

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So it's a real, it's a real decision we want to put that before you because we will have

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to make a decision on that subscription management approach in the April May, because you have

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to make that decision as you go in after you get the interconnection study.

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So I'll just stop again there because it's a bit complicated, the kind of differences between

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these approaches, but because you are a key partner to this project, city piece, we want to

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explain it to you and see if you have questions as we kind of move into making that decision.

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Any questions?

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Yeah, I do.

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So what you're saying is that either it's kind of ed is doing this broad distribution

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in which case you wouldn't need subscribers.

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Exactly right.

456
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It goes automatically into, but everybody's going to have like, some small amount of, exactly.

457
00:35:02,540 --> 00:35:08,680
Savings, or get targeted more specific in which case you have to have a management.

458
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,560
Exactly, right.

459
00:35:10,580 --> 00:35:11,280
You're exactly right.

460
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,060
Yes, so under community solar, there would be 200 low-end water income households in

461
00:35:15,060 --> 00:35:15,580
peak skill.

462
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,020
We would have to target them.

463
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,840
They would get all of the energy, they would get half of the energy bill savings.

464
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,720
under the state, so, if we're all, it would go automatically into

465
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:26,660
Con Edison in all of the low and moderate income households,

466
00:35:26,860 --> 00:35:29,880
in Con Edison, and they would get the energy bill same as

467
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,460
which would be reduced because it's over a much broader.

468
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:33,200
Yeah.

469
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,240
And we don't have any sense of, I mean, is it like,

470
00:35:36,540 --> 00:35:39,680
three cents off your bill or, you know, like, a buck fifty?

471
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:45,140
Yeah. So, the challenge we've been talking to NYSERDA to get a better sense,

472
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,300
and the difficulty right now is they're launching the program,

473
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:54,220
And as we don't have a hard number on what that is per year,

474
00:35:54,340 --> 00:35:55,620
we can keep trying to get that.

475
00:35:55,780 --> 00:35:57,480
I mean, I think it's a significant reduction

476
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,740
because it's spread out so much.

477
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:04,000
But what the state is saying is as more solar project

478
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,440
come online, those households, those 28 hundred

479
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,120
in peak scale are going to get larger and larger benefits.

480
00:36:11,740 --> 00:36:13,060
But I can't answer your quote.

481
00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:16,220
I mean, I can come back and see the best answer we can get to.

482
00:36:16,220 --> 00:36:23,400
So New York State is saying that if the more solar projects in New York State, or in this area, or what?

483
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:34,900
In Kahn Edison, so it kind of works by utility area, and any distribution energy project can go into the state solar for all and get redistributed to low and modern income households.

484
00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:38,900
Yeah, Kahn Edison's all the way down to New York City, isn't it?

485
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,760
Yeah, it should be Kahn Edison, Westchester.

486
00:36:41,540 --> 00:36:45,400
Yeah, if that approach was just peak skill, that would be fine.

487
00:36:46,260 --> 00:36:51,560
But since we can't do that, we're taking on the facility, we're taking on the burden

488
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,320
of having the facility here, and it should be directed to peak skill.

489
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,600
And I don't mind if all 400 residents are low on moderate income,

490
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,880
and it just goes to low on moderate income.

491
00:37:02,180 --> 00:37:08,100
And it is there a way to target some of the buildings that are only occupied by low on moderate income

492
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:16,080
as a way to just, I mean, we have many buildings like that, and maybe just a direct stream

493
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:22,280
to part of the building. That wouldn't be so hard to, and they would always have to be qualified

494
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:27,340
as well a modern income. So I think it would be nice for something where people are paying their

495
00:37:27,340 --> 00:37:28,660
own electric.

496
00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:35,600
That's just an idea that it's, you know, if it's bred so thin over cone at Westchester,

497
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:41,180
What is it gonna be like a dollar? That's right. That was my question. Yeah, probably

498
00:37:41,180 --> 00:37:45,740
that math for us and that would help a bit. I think if it's really down to something like

499
00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:51,260
50 cents off somebody's bill, then I think that you go to peak skills.

500
00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:57,460
Well, I think the fact that it's here in peak skill, and you know, this is our project,

501
00:37:57,940 --> 00:38:00,620
with the partnership that it should stay in peak skill.

502
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:04,180
We're not putting stuff here to take care of the rest of the county.

503
00:38:04,180 --> 00:38:06,000
when we can't take care of where we have here.

504
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,160
But then we have, do we have that bill of $900,

505
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,900
that's the dollars, that's not forget that one.

506
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,820
Jason, that's the $2,800 number.

507
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,880
Yeah, where does that $2,800 number come from?

508
00:38:19,260 --> 00:38:21,900
So thanks to Westchester County,

509
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,640
we're working with a city manager's office,

510
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:24,980
so that's from Westchester County.

511
00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:27,660
That's the currently city of Peace Corps residents

512
00:38:27,660 --> 00:38:32,960
that are enrolled in either heap, tan-if, snap, or SSI.

513
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,000
So we're not going outside of Pigsco with this.

514
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:37,400
You know, it's keeping it in Pigsco.

515
00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:39,900
It's just a diluted benefit for more people.

516
00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:44,760
No, the benefit would go both to the 2,800 in Pigsco,

517
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:48,040
but it gets spread across connedic and westchester

518
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,460
low and moderate income households.

519
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,320
So here's the tricky, and I understand the point of view,

520
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,240
the tricky thing about this conversation is,

521
00:38:55,380 --> 00:38:58,420
I mean, two things to your point, Councilman Douglas.

522
00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:01,920
The current proposal was for 400 households,

523
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,260
half of the market, half of them low and moderate income with 20% electricity bill savings.

524
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,020
We couldn't support 400 LMI households because it would break the project.

525
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,380
And so the second thing is it is a smaller benefit.

526
00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:20,600
I can work on the best estimates, you know, and get back to you.

527
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:26,260
But that 900,000 number, the reason we're bringing this to you now is when we get the

528
00:39:26,260 --> 00:39:31,880
connection, study, back from Con Edison, if there are results of that cost, break the project.

529
00:39:32,580 --> 00:39:39,360
They say, like, it cannot work financially, then we have to consider trade-offs and discussion

530
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:45,480
with you about, you know, what's the best way to keep the project being built.

531
00:39:45,940 --> 00:39:51,260
And so, you know, this would be one potential trade-off, which is why we want to break it.

532
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:56,240
And are they looking, when they look at those numbers, are they looking at single family homes

533
00:39:56,240 --> 00:40:00,760
single apartments or they're looking at, you know, some of the complexes we have are, you

534
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,980
know, a conglomerate. So is that considered one? That kind of thing I think needs to

535
00:40:05,980 --> 00:40:10,760
be kind of flush that as well. I believe there's I'm going to pause and just see if my partner

536
00:40:11,260 --> 00:40:15,360
nor from working power wants to add anything, but I believe those are their all individual households.

537
00:40:15,660 --> 00:40:21,420
They're based on that 2800 number from Westchester County that received those four federal

538
00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:26,580
program. But if they're correct, it's essentially individual utility accounts, individual

539
00:40:26,580 --> 00:40:32,620
meters. Okay. So we know that they have meters, because some people who get those services

540
00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:38,540
are not paying their own utilities. So I'm asking how that's broken down because that would

541
00:40:38,540 --> 00:40:44,440
be something you need to know. Yeah. Um, that 2800 number could be far less. Because just because

542
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,640
you get tanner for just because you get this or that does not mean that you have utility bills.

543
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,600
You're utility bill for being included in if you're getting a subsidized rent or something like that.

544
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,460
We need to be able to break that down.

545
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,700
Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, Nora, but I believe the way state solar fall is

546
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:05,980
is organized is that if you're a household receiving any of those four programs,

547
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:12,260
TANF, food stamps, SSI, or heap, then you get a portion of energy bill savings.

548
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,540
Regardless of if you have a meal.

549
00:41:14,540 --> 00:41:20,260
You would have to have a utility bill because you would have a role in the energy affordability program,

550
00:41:20,660 --> 00:41:26,300
which would then, you know, it automatically, so it's opt-out instead of opt-in.

551
00:41:26,420 --> 00:41:29,140
So the statewide solar for all is opt-out.

552
00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:32,680
You could decide you didn't want the savings if you had a utility bill.

553
00:41:33,140 --> 00:41:37,200
The opt-in is the one that's the, you know, we have to ongoing management.

554
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:43,120
There's also about a $100,000 fee just to subscribe to the

555
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:49,740
acquire the subscribers on the front end, so overall it's about a million dollars total cost to the project.

556
00:41:50,500 --> 00:42:04,580
And it sounds really simple and like it is a wonderful product to be able to provide residents that do not have the money to put on solar

557
00:42:04,580 --> 00:42:07,020
or maybe don't have the rooftop or a good rooftop,

558
00:42:07,180 --> 00:42:07,640
but on solar.

559
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,060
So community solar solves for that,

560
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,900
but it is incredibly difficult to get the subscribers.

561
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,320
There's a lot of trust issues, there's a lot of education.

562
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,980
There's just a ton of work that goes into it,

563
00:42:18,980 --> 00:42:21,640
and then maintain this subscribers over time.

564
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:24,160
It is a fairly costly endeavor.

565
00:42:25,580 --> 00:42:27,760
So certainly is what we've been contemplating

566
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,900
from the beginning, but as Jason has said,

567
00:42:30,900 --> 00:42:36,040
If costs come back higher for interconnection or other things,

568
00:42:36,540 --> 00:42:40,200
terrorists have just been put on many, many goods,

569
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,500
so the cost of the project is probably going up.

570
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,860
It's just, there's going to have to be some trade-offs at some point,

571
00:42:45,980 --> 00:42:49,020
and that's why we want to make sure everyone's aware of these options.

572
00:42:49,780 --> 00:42:56,380
And I just want to say, I always think about the senior older women

573
00:42:56,380 --> 00:43:02,420
We're on their own still living in their house and most of the houses are old so they're

574
00:43:02,420 --> 00:43:08,400
drafting and you know these people I don't know whether situations are but I know where

575
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:16,060
I when I had my house there were at least five people on that block who were single women

576
00:43:16,060 --> 00:43:23,720
widows whatever living alone in old houses. I know what my heating bill used to be.

577
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,480
So, Jason, when is that study supposed to be done?

578
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,520
One will we know if this is viable and April 10th?

579
00:43:32,580 --> 00:43:34,940
We're supposed to be so this week, we're supposed to get the interconnection study.

580
00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:43,320
So we're just putting in front of you and we'll surely be back in front of you with the results of that study to let you know how it impacts these decisions.

581
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:48,420
But we just because this is coming up quickly and it's such a poor decision we want to put it in front of you.

582
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,080
It's kind of clinch is all on that.

583
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,140
Exactly. Yeah, that's going to really drive the conversation.

584
00:43:54,780 --> 00:43:56,440
Okay. I'm reading the tea leaves, right?

585
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,300
Did it may not be feasible other than running it through the state program through

586
00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:06,920
kind of wishes. If the interconnection study came back with a very high cost of

587
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,760
grid upgrades to make his project possible, this is one of the largest cost

588
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:20,380
drivers that you could look at, yeah, wait for the numbers, wait for the numbers, yeah.

589
00:44:21,140 --> 00:44:25,220
And in the meantime, we will work on some of the things you all raise, a better cost estimate

590
00:44:25,220 --> 00:44:29,820
of the state solar for all, although we have been pushing for that, and then this American

591
00:44:29,820 --> 00:44:33,800
Z's point about the accounts, though, of the 2,800 solar for all of that.

592
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,320
Jason, just one last question.

593
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,480
Who, what entity is overseeing the solar for all?

594
00:44:38,540 --> 00:44:39,540
Is that counted directly?

595
00:44:39,820 --> 00:44:40,080
No.

596
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,520
third-party New York State. So it's a New York State program. I believe

597
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,040
NYSERDA, New York State Energy Research Development Authority, is overseeing it. It's in

598
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,440
their house and it's been in the work for about 10 years and it's trying to remove

599
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,880
some of the biggest barriers to solar development. I go. I just add a little bit

600
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,960
that they ran up pilot in National Grid.

601
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:12,820
It was very successful, and so that's how they driven forward with the rest of the state, because it really solves for some of the projects that can't figure out the solution, or they're too marginal to move forward. It helps them move forward.

602
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:21,000
So obviously New York State has a enormous goal for a noble energy, so this is just another tool to help these projects to be able to move forward.

603
00:45:21,940 --> 00:45:22,340
Thank you.

604
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,220
Thank you. Anyone else?

605
00:45:24,820 --> 00:45:28,400
Okay. Isn't thank you so much for varying their own problems on that.

606
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,560
Now there's a part 2, I apologize to you,

607
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,720
because I saw how long your agenda is, I don't know.

608
00:45:34,860 --> 00:45:35,720
So, it's not so good.

609
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:38,640
So, there is a part 2, and this is,

610
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,380
is running, should I go right into it?

611
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,620
You can jump into it, just give the basics

612
00:45:43,620 --> 00:45:45,140
and then I can add to it.

613
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,640
Okay, so the second part of this discussion

614
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,520
is as I said, we are, this project

615
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,040
is beginning the permitting process

616
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,980
in front of the planning commission starting

617
00:45:56,980 --> 00:46:04,080
tomorrow secret is coming down the road likely for the May meeting and part of the permitting

618
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:11,740
process is this our request for public interest determination and so just a bit of background

619
00:46:11,740 --> 00:46:20,080
here we are project received a letter from the Peace Field Building Inspector Determination

620
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:26,380
determination letter on March 17th, which recognize that floating solar is not currently

621
00:46:26,380 --> 00:46:35,940
recognized as a city of peak school permitted use, which we all knew in the R1A zoning district,

622
00:46:36,060 --> 00:46:43,200
the one family zoning district. And so we're seeking determination from the city council for

623
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:52,440
an exemption from code section 57518, which is what prohibits non-permitted uses, under the

624
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:57,600
matter of Monroe County New York Public Interest Bouncing Test, which basically says

625
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:09,860
the city can allow for a non-permitted use if the project passes a public interest test if it

626
00:47:09,860 --> 00:47:19,680
to the Common Council Mayor McKenzie on March 26th which stated the case for making this

627
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,640
public determination and a lot of it's just based on is the public interest served by this

628
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:30,080
project which is a decision you all make. But that letter outlined some of the ways that this

629
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:37,660
project serves the public interest I'll just go through a few of them briefly. One, this project,

630
00:47:37,660 --> 00:47:46,860
the 1.63 megawatt floating solar project meets the City of Peacecales 2024 local government

631
00:47:46,860 --> 00:47:54,920
operations climate action plan, which has a buildings and facilities strategy number two listed

632
00:47:54,920 --> 00:48:01,260
in that climate action plan to install solar on municipal properties, which this would do. It

633
00:48:01,260 --> 00:48:07,120
also supports the City of Peacows Climate Action goals because the project would reduce greenhouse

634
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:14,480
gas emissions by an estimated 29,000 tons of carbon dioxide equivalent over the 25 year

635
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:22,780
life of the project. It would produce $1.2 million estimated electricity bill savings for

636
00:48:22,780 --> 00:48:28,300
LMI households, which would apply to either root community solar or state solar for all. It

637
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:35,660
would produce a city lease payment of $780,000 over the life of the project. It would create a

638
00:48:35,660 --> 00:48:41,080
sovereignty fund, which would fund the Peace Go Regeneration Farm, which we partner with a city

639
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:48,060
with that produces free food and free educational programs and a paid youth apprentice program

640
00:48:48,060 --> 00:48:53,520
at the Peace Go Regeneration Farm on city property and it would also create a fund for other

641
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:59,360
city local food and security initiatives. I don't know if I mentioned that's an estimated $883,000

642
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:05,880
over 25 years, any work would be a prevailing wage job.

643
00:49:06,500 --> 00:49:10,900
We would include apprentices when possible, which is a little bit more difficult with the

644
00:49:10,900 --> 00:49:15,980
floating solar project as compared to like a roof mount project, and it includes funding

645
00:49:15,980 --> 00:49:20,900
to work with local community-based organizations that the ECP has partnered with very many

646
00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:25,300
times in the past to do community outreach around subscriptions.

647
00:49:28,420 --> 00:49:33,900
And I think we've discussed some of the ways the project is working in the public interest

648
00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:35,520
to prioritize public safety.

649
00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:43,960
As I said, we helped pay for an independent third party water quality engineering firm.

650
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:49,720
And in addition, I think this worthwhile mentioning at the recommendation of the water and

651
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:54,740
to our department, we're paying, we would pay for the construction of a stop gate, which

652
00:49:54,740 --> 00:50:01,400
would be engineered to isolate one reservoir at 1,000 Lindbergh place from another, which

653
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,600
would be an extra layer of protection.

654
00:50:06,140 --> 00:50:11,040
The public interest determination asked us to list if there was any intergovernmental participation

655
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,120
around this project.

656
00:50:12,140 --> 00:50:17,700
As you all know, there's been a lot, as you're probably sick of seeing us, but since 2022,

657
00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:20,980
We've made six presentations to the Common Council on this project.

658
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,440
We've made three presentations to the Conservation Advisory Council.

659
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,200
We've made additional community presentations to the Peaceful Business Improvement District,

660
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:32,020
the Peaceful End of the ACP, the Hudson Valley Gateway Chamber of Congress.

661
00:50:32,820 --> 00:50:38,300
We sit in on weekly sustainability meetings with the City Manager's office and seep,

662
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,180
which does a really excellent job of keeping things moving.

663
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,820
We have regular meetings with the Water and Sur Department to incorporate the recommendations

664
00:50:46,820 --> 00:50:53,820
into the project design and tomorrow night we bring the project to the planning commission and

665
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,640
as I mentioned the secret process with like they kick off in May.

666
00:50:58,020 --> 00:51:01,640
So finally, we don't see any potential alternative locations for this project.

667
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:07,520
We don't see any alternative methods to produce the amount of energy this project would.

668
00:51:08,140 --> 00:51:12,200
And so we personally believe because this is the whole point of the project.

669
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:19,060
We've built it around community benefit that this project satisfies the criteria for granting a public interest exemption

670
00:51:19,060 --> 00:51:27,380
for the proposed floating solar rate at 1,000 Lindbergh place, and that's it, but I'll turn it over to corporate council, if there's additional.

671
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,640
Yeah, just to give you a little more background regarding this public

672
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,840
interest exemption under a county of Monroe, which is a case

673
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,740
a doctor in that's been come up.

674
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,860
It only applies on municipal property.

675
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,540
It doesn't apply to private property,

676
00:51:41,540 --> 00:51:44,020
so that's really the key factor here is

677
00:51:44,020 --> 00:51:47,820
that this is going to be on city property where there is a project

678
00:51:47,820 --> 00:51:51,440
that does not necessarily comply with zoning on municipal property.

679
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,560
You can exempt from zoning.

680
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:55,700
If you meet this public interest doctor,

681
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,240
and I think Jason did an excellent job explaining

682
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:06,160
The majority of reasons why the believes this project does meet the requirements for the public interest document.

683
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,960
Another one is there is going to be a secret review.

684
00:52:09,260 --> 00:52:12,660
The planning commission will be declaring itself lead agency at some point.

685
00:52:12,860 --> 00:52:15,540
You'll have an opportunity to comment on the secret process.

686
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,820
They're going to hold public hearings with respect to a site plan review.

687
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:25,080
So there is going to be significant public oversight with respect to how this facility is going to be constructed as well.

688
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,080
that's another factor that is considered in that analysis

689
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,520
to allow the exemption, so we're not waving site plan.

690
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,920
We're just allowing this use.

691
00:52:35,100 --> 00:52:37,120
There's really no other place where you could have

692
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,540
a solar floating solar facility on a reservoir

693
00:52:39,540 --> 00:52:41,280
in the city of Peakskill.

694
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,980
The one on top of the building, the water building

695
00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:47,280
is a permitted use actually in this zone,

696
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,240
it's just not on a floating solar.

697
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,800
So that's really my assessment of the analysis.

698
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:59,340
you'll have a resolution before you next week going through through the analysis sort of similar

699
00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:05,440
to what's been presented by ECP working power here, but they've done a pretty, I think, a pretty

700
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:10,140
thorough job going through the analysis here, I'm in setting forth why they believe

701
00:53:10,140 --> 00:53:15,160
you're entitled to make that public interest determination. Count so many questions on what you've

702
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:20,660
heard and what's been discussed. We go to that. We got a nice memo on the garage to detail

703
00:53:20,660 --> 00:53:24,340
of all the things that Jason Street garage.

704
00:53:24,540 --> 00:53:25,880
We got a nice memo from.

705
00:53:25,980 --> 00:53:26,940
Yeah, that gave the background.

706
00:53:27,580 --> 00:53:28,960
Yeah, everybody threw that in.

707
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,820
And it pretty much dug till with what you're saying.

708
00:53:32,060 --> 00:53:32,620
Anyone else?

709
00:53:32,660 --> 00:53:35,360
Jason, is there anything other than construction?

710
00:53:36,180 --> 00:53:37,960
There's no ongoing disturbance or anything

711
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,460
that would be caused in this neighborhood

712
00:53:39,460 --> 00:53:42,580
or anything that we would ever be concerned about that.

713
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,160
No, you're just shaking your head now.

714
00:53:45,420 --> 00:53:47,100
Yeah, so I must say words.

715
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,760
Yeah, so there is no besides the construction

716
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:55,280
of the project. Once it's built, it's stable and there's no other ongoing disturbance.

717
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:02,000
Thank you. It's really the water testing processes that we're sort of digging into right now and

718
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:08,540
making sure that those are properly addressed and the cost of those future costs for those all

719
00:54:08,540 --> 00:54:15,120
the testing assessments are properly handled as well. And when thought ahead, this is

720
00:54:15,940 --> 00:54:18,980
The planning commission would be the lead agent.

721
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:25,960
This is our water and our reservoir and the city council is responsible for it.

722
00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:32,580
I don't mind them doing it, but this would seem obviously where the city council would be the lead agent.

723
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,720
You're doing the analysis of the lease regarding the safety factors.

724
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,360
The site plan is the construction of the facility.

725
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:46,240
obviously the secret looks at the safety of it and all the environmental factors and you have

726
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:52,860
an opportunity to comment, you know, but the planning commission is the board that typically

727
00:54:52,860 --> 00:54:56,680
does lead agency for these types of projects.

728
00:54:57,220 --> 00:55:00,520
If you have an objection, there's always that ability.

729
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:01,400
Just struck me as well.

730
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,160
This is our baby.

731
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:04,860
We're responsible for it.

732
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,480
We're responsible to ensure the safety of it.

733
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:08,460
We're responsible to see it.

734
00:55:08,460 --> 00:55:16,140
develop property that it protects our water. And so I don't mind less works, leave it to

735
00:55:16,140 --> 00:55:19,440
the planning commission, but I think I'm just wondering if it's appropriate.

736
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,880
Well, I think we look at the safety factors have really been looked at in analyzing the lease,

737
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,200
and that's what our case has been brought in. This is really looking at the environmental impacts

738
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:34,300
from the construction of the project, not necessarily the impact on the, the necessarily,

739
00:55:34,300 --> 00:55:41,280
I don't think Secret's going to look at necessarily and as much detail as you have the impact on the water supply,

740
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:48,840
which is something you can certainly have with respect, you've done with respect to the lease and you'll continue to have the right to do.

741
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:55,180
But that's just one small part of the Secret review that's going to be done with respect to this project.

742
00:55:55,180 --> 00:56:01,760
So it may just be worth noting that R2 as well, the engineering firm that will engineer and

743
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:06,660
build it, also build the city of co-hosts, New York, floating solar on their municipal

744
00:56:06,660 --> 00:56:11,860
reservoir system and they also permitted that project and of course there's the state

745
00:56:11,860 --> 00:56:17,180
Department of Health, there's agencies that regulate testing and safety going.

746
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,360
Now, can I thank you?

747
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,560
Okay, thank you so much.

748
00:56:23,860 --> 00:56:28,620
We're very excited to bring this project to Pisco, we're getting to the reality point here now.

749
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:37,880
I know you have a long agenda, but thank you all for the city's partnership, the council, city managers, partnership, throughout we're very excited to work with you and get to the city.

750
00:56:38,020 --> 00:56:38,640
Thank you very much.

751
00:56:38,780 --> 00:56:39,400
Thank you.

752
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:40,260
Thank you.

753
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,220
Thank you, Jason.

754
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:48,460
I think that would also give us lots of points too for our status.

755
00:56:49,540 --> 00:56:53,460
So we would become more grant eligible with this program.

756
00:56:58,260 --> 00:56:58,700
Yes.

757
00:56:58,700 --> 00:57:03,480
Jonathan, who's going to introduce new city parks to you, and talk to you a little bit about

758
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:10,200
the Pew Park, and Rose Hartley is with us at like her to introduce all the, any other people

759
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:16,540
who are appropriate. Good evening, council. Good evening, so as you know, we've been working with

760
00:57:16,540 --> 00:57:22,340
a new city parks on some projects, particularly in the Pew Park, so this presentation is going to

761
00:57:22,340 --> 00:57:27,540
highlight as an additional funding, and I'd like to highlight the principle of new city parks,

762
00:57:27,540 --> 00:57:30,140
Rose Harvey, and we'll leave it to her for the presentation.

763
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:31,660
Thank you.

764
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,120
I'm Sarah Lebros.

765
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:35,380
Thank you, City Council.

766
00:57:36,860 --> 00:57:43,680
And I'm introducing Emily Nye, and she is both our Chief Financial Officer, but also director

767
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,140
of design.

768
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,760
And Shannon Way, who is a project, is just working on this.

769
00:57:50,900 --> 00:57:55,660
And I'm the Executive Director and co-founder of New City Parks.

770
00:57:55,660 --> 00:58:00,320
And I'll be very, very fun to city parks, but we were created.

771
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:11,640
Our mission is to create parks in small cities in the most underserved areas, and we provide

772
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:19,040
at no cost to the city and the communities with whom we work, community organizing, design,

773
00:58:19,340 --> 00:58:25,480
engineering, budgeting to set up a project, a park project, revitalization.

774
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:34,880
or new park for construction and then we go out with our city and your city is wonderful

775
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:43,820
as a partner to raise public dollars to actually build the park and help steward it and we

776
00:58:43,820 --> 00:58:54,080
have seven cities and we just came in relatively speaking we just came into peace skill in 2024

777
00:58:54,080 --> 00:59:05,800
for we kind of started working and Emily's going to go through a presentation on where we are

778
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,940
with revitalization of Dupue Park.

779
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:16,290
I have everybody alone to see some of you again, thank you.

780
00:59:17,070 --> 00:59:28,170
To pew part. You all know it well, I'm sure. It's an incredible asset and such a unique

781
00:59:28,170 --> 00:59:34,150
one in the middle of a city to have a part of this size and scale into a butt of the blue

782
00:59:34,150 --> 00:59:35,150
mountain reservation.

783
00:59:37,490 --> 00:59:44,610
But as you also know, it's got the best shape. So when we were very

784
00:59:44,610 --> 00:59:50,450
said about the connection in this woodland in the middle of your city, but noted that the

785
00:59:50,450 --> 00:59:55,490
recreational infrastructures in pretty poor shape that kind of supports basketball

786
00:59:55,490 --> 00:59:59,990
course, every paved surface essentially needs refurbishment.

787
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:21,680
Ablishing, way of finding, infantry and circulation is pretty poor. There are a lot of conflicts between ours and people, and if you don't really know your way around, you know, it's hard to know what's where without signs. And then of course, there's your pool, which mention almost on its last slides.

788
01:00:25,900 --> 01:00:32,000
So, this is the master plan we put together with the landscape architecture firm, Sarah Chauva,

789
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:32,600
Associates.

790
01:00:32,860 --> 01:00:37,780
When we were helping the city put together an application for the New York State EPF

791
01:00:37,780 --> 01:00:38,300
brand.

792
01:00:38,860 --> 01:00:40,200
We did that in July.

793
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,820
We successfully were awarded the grant in December.

794
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,260
I think you all know that was for $600 and $75,000.

795
01:00:48,660 --> 01:00:52,860
The focus of the grant application was this area where the

796
01:00:52,860 --> 01:01:01,780
separation is heaviest, and we did, so that's that's what we're going to show you in the next slide that area in a little more detail.

797
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:12,740
But we also looked at the whole part, and wanted to improve circulation throughout, improve your picnic areas, introduce furnishings,

798
01:01:12,740 --> 01:01:23,800
This is a placebo area and also look at the trails in the park, which are such a, you know, so lucky to have them.

799
01:01:24,220 --> 01:01:31,320
But I think people who don't know them well are intimidated to start hiking because they can easily get lost.

800
01:01:36,770 --> 01:01:40,370
Okay, so this is a different view of the area that is the focus of that EPS.

801
01:01:40,370 --> 01:01:46,190
APF grant. As you know, you have a great purple ball court, which is a terrific start, but

802
01:01:46,190 --> 01:01:52,350
this grant funding would help refurbish the tennis courts and produce a pavilion for

803
01:01:52,350 --> 01:01:52,930
gatherings.

804
01:01:57,150 --> 01:02:04,930
The Amirians, that sort of thing. We would extend pathways from the street and to the park,

805
01:02:05,130 --> 01:02:09,690
here all the way down to the basketball courts, and over here beside the street to help

806
01:02:09,690 --> 01:02:13,230
of my some of those plus between people and cars.

807
01:02:14,270 --> 01:02:17,190
We would also refurbish both basketball courts.

808
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:19,290
And one would serve a dual purpose.

809
01:02:19,490 --> 01:02:23,070
We would be both the basketball court and a soccer mini pitch.

810
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,420
These are just the images to give you.

811
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,180
My idea of all these features that you don't know

812
01:02:30,180 --> 01:02:32,000
what a soccer mini pitch it looks like.

813
01:02:32,180 --> 01:02:33,100
This is what it looks like.

814
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:33,980
It's enclosed.

815
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,120
And this would have striving for basketball as well.

816
01:02:39,460 --> 01:02:41,620
And basketball goals on either end.

817
01:02:45,650 --> 01:02:47,790
inspiration for pavilion structures.

818
01:02:53,830 --> 01:02:55,990
This city got a large press

819
01:02:55,990 --> 01:03:01,590
France to improve plaingrounds across the city and this will

820
01:03:01,590 --> 01:03:06,010
but peace skills play around will be one of them in the

821
01:03:06,710 --> 01:03:08,810
St. Joseph's will be replaced.

822
01:03:12,330 --> 01:03:13,930
And this is just to demonstrate some

823
01:03:13,930 --> 01:03:16,310
of the improvement to the trails. We,

824
01:03:20,730 --> 01:03:20,750
um,

825
01:03:20,750 --> 01:03:25,390
Jonathan, please go to work on the trail system.

826
01:03:25,710 --> 01:03:28,670
And this summer, they're going to do a first round.

827
01:03:28,770 --> 01:03:32,150
They're going to improve one loop here.

828
01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:37,110
He's going to make her serve, and improve the markings and signage,

829
01:03:37,790 --> 01:03:42,810
and we're going to get a new kiosk and a temporary map to introduce people

830
01:03:42,810 --> 01:03:48,010
who maybe have been reluctant to enter the woods to get to be hiking.

831
01:03:48,010 --> 01:03:54,250
And then what we'll follow is a plan to improve the trails

832
01:03:54,250 --> 01:03:57,370
who out of the park and also the markings and markings

833
01:03:57,370 --> 01:03:58,330
too.

834
01:04:04,700 --> 01:04:06,520
You can ask, and this is the sort of marking

835
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,500
we want to have throughout the hills and hills and hills.

836
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:20,460
And again, and here's where we are with our funding.

837
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,320
And I'm going to let Rose take it from here.

838
01:04:24,460 --> 01:04:28,780
So this is almost perspective and secure funding.

839
01:04:28,780 --> 01:04:39,880
And if you look down, there's a subtotal of secured farms of 1.6 million rounded down.

840
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:45,940
And it's a combination of the state parks grant, the EECF grant.

841
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:52,460
What was already allocated for the playground from a previous press grant.

842
01:04:52,460 --> 01:05:03,900
And then peak skill parts, trust fund is going to match the state grant, which is a higher match than some of the others.

843
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:20,000
And then we have hired essentially New York New Jersey Trail Conference with Commission now to do some, this is a initial work and they will join more work for us again with the city.

844
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:30,780
So, that's all done, and that is that rendering that you saw that Emily showed of kind of improvement of the repreational areas.

845
01:05:31,780 --> 01:05:34,620
And then phase two is perspective.

846
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:46,640
And perspective in terms of what phase two is is the gazeboes, the pit barbecue area, more picnic areas,

847
01:05:49,340 --> 01:06:04,660
And that is going to be another 1.35 and we already have actually you all secured $100,000

848
01:06:04,660 --> 01:06:11,200
or you're appropriating a 100,000 of the old Hunt Grant CDBG grant.

849
01:06:11,940 --> 01:06:19,320
And then there's the new state program called MPR.

850
01:06:20,990 --> 01:06:28,690
It is for all the recreational features that I just talked about for phase two.

851
01:06:28,690 --> 01:06:46,450
the highest amount is a million and we will be applying for it on the half of the city and then we're going and we've talked to the mayor and that about a pressed fund.

852
01:06:46,450 --> 01:06:55,250
And right now, it's at 250,000, and it may change, and that's after we talked about the pool.

853
01:06:55,990 --> 01:07:07,290
But so we think that these are good prospects that would go in the summer, and we find out at the end of the year.

854
01:07:07,290 --> 01:07:10,270
And that's another 1.3.

855
01:07:10,350 --> 01:07:16,630
So it basically takes the total cost of to few to $3 million.

856
01:07:17,690 --> 01:07:24,310
Now, the MPR grant, we would get the maximum amount of million.

857
01:07:24,970 --> 01:07:31,910
So we had back of strategies that in case we don't get that.

858
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:41,010
bring the county out to look at connecting Blue Mountain and covering some of those

859
01:07:41,010 --> 01:07:48,030
costs and additional costs. We have, we know, two other possible state costs that are

860
01:07:48,030 --> 01:07:57,370
smaller. So, this could all change somewhat. But we think we're going to get there for

861
01:07:57,370 --> 01:08:05,950
the 1.3 and for the revital or for the total of the 3 million and you all really out of

862
01:08:05,950 --> 01:08:16,350
your trust fund out of the 3 million you all are with that match really providing 700,000 out

863
01:08:16,350 --> 01:08:17,310
of the 3 million.

864
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:24,670
That could change if there is a perspective grant that has a higher match, we'll see but that's

865
01:08:24,670 --> 01:08:26,490
what we're looking at right now.

866
01:08:26,490 --> 01:08:38,250
Now the pool of bromance, we've always had our eyes on a pool and so you all and there's

867
01:08:38,250 --> 01:08:50,030
a National Park Service grant, it is just for pools, it is for underserved communities, it is

868
01:08:50,030 --> 01:08:56,470
a federal grant, we've been monitoring it and we've raised it.

869
01:08:56,470 --> 01:09:05,270
in the past for other cities, our fingers are crossed that it will go forward and to

870
01:09:05,950 --> 01:09:13,110
they've changed the criteria a little bit over the new administration and that may be problematic,

871
01:09:13,810 --> 01:09:18,650
but we are working with the administrators of this potato and program.

872
01:09:18,650 --> 01:09:27,170
The match for that is a one-to-one match is a New York State swims grant.

873
01:09:27,970 --> 01:09:37,910
Now, of heat skill also doesn't qualify currently for the New York State Parks a

874
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:47,150
swim grant, but we, with that, have been talking to the commissioner, Dazzney, the commissioner

875
01:09:47,150 --> 01:09:57,030
parts and trying to explain that the criteria they're using is not reaching the target audience

876
01:09:57,030 --> 01:10:07,870
of low income and diverse populations. We are getting indications that maybe they will change it.

877
01:10:07,870 --> 01:10:09,090
We don't know.

878
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:15,430
So the poll is, you know, we're going to try.

879
01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:16,990
It's so big.

880
01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:20,110
We had Sarah Togan, take a look at it,

881
01:10:21,010 --> 01:10:24,570
and Christ it out for us just back in the envelope

882
01:10:24,570 --> 01:10:29,310
engineering study that we would do if we got these graphs

883
01:10:29,310 --> 01:10:30,930
of an end-depth one.

884
01:10:31,530 --> 01:10:34,570
And they think it's somewhere between six and eight.

885
01:10:34,570 --> 01:10:36,950
So we settled as seven.

886
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:42,050
And we'll wait and see, we're on it every day.

887
01:10:43,130 --> 01:10:46,370
This year we can change it, and we'll go from there.

888
01:10:48,610 --> 01:10:55,190
And that one thought, and again, we've talked with the mayor,

889
01:10:57,070 --> 01:11:00,350
and with that about maybe the press grant,

890
01:11:02,770 --> 01:11:05,470
it would be a very large press grant,

891
01:11:05,470 --> 01:11:15,130
But maybe we have a dual press grant and get some large amount from your local representatives

892
01:11:15,130 --> 01:11:22,130
and we've been setting up meetings with us in the city to go forward on that.

893
01:11:22,370 --> 01:11:25,070
And that's pretty much it.

894
01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:26,790
Can you answer any questions?

895
01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:27,670
You,

896
01:11:35,070 --> 01:11:42,470
uh, yeah, uh, thank you Rose and everyone's like, I can see the names right here, but uh, for the presentation.

897
01:11:44,030 --> 01:11:58,130
Uh, when you mentioned about the possibility to have some connection between, uh, the reservation, the Blumen time reservation and the DPU part, uh,

898
01:11:58,130 --> 01:12:03,970
work on the connectivity that we are talking about.

899
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:21,920
Some trails that within your 177, 79 acres, before you get to Blue Mountain Reservation,

900
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:33,820
And the first thing we're doing is creating a very basic trail that's just kind of parallels

901
01:12:33,820 --> 01:12:41,620
the lake and we're going to get it in New York New Jersey, the New York New Jersey Conference

902
01:12:41,620 --> 01:12:50,980
trail conference will help us clean it off. And then you have a lot of on your property,

903
01:12:52,840 --> 01:13:01,880
various spurs here and there, and it's not really clear where is the real path. So we're thinking

904
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:11,640
creating some well-defined paths and letting grow over some of the spurs and get ends

905
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:19,540
and so forth and so on. And then, as well, most importantly, we're going to have three

906
01:13:19,540 --> 01:13:27,680
entrances to Pew for deputors who don't really know where the entrances are. They'll have

907
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:37,360
us and they'll have maps and then we're working again with the city about getting New York

908
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:47,140
New Jersey Trail to also run some programs, just leading walks on to puke as to Flaura

909
01:13:47,140 --> 01:13:56,200
and Flaura and just making people and kids safe and maybe even a work program for an annual

910
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:05,580
you know. So with respect to the, um, that is primarily yet the one of those, or two

911
01:14:05,580 --> 01:14:12,980
of those trails, we may connect if somebody wants to go further than to view, connect them

912
01:14:12,980 --> 01:14:20,260
to the mains for trails of the field. Thank you. Now, I'm sorry of the count.

913
01:14:22,900 --> 01:14:32,660
I did it a question because I didn't see a specific area, but I was when they did it when you guys did a presentation in the library.

914
01:14:34,740 --> 01:14:49,300
I was a chair, the idea to do something like this because it would be very interesting to have a pathway connecting between the blue, montan and the DP bar.

915
01:14:49,300 --> 01:14:53,600
similar like if we haven't the river from far in in

916
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:59,980
connecting and by to as accessible for all the area like it's

917
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:10,300
I don't know where, remember, and all the people on Washington Street, and they can be decided

918
01:15:10,300 --> 01:15:18,120
to go either way to the deep part of the Blumenty Reservation, because, I mean, the experience

919
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:26,820
that I have is going to the North Trail in the United States Rail, is really into how

920
01:15:26,820 --> 01:15:35,660
for a different community they can share seniors, kids and walk biking and use as a connectivity

921
01:15:35,660 --> 01:15:40,300
for another municipality. That would be nice if we can have a similar pathway like we haven't

922
01:15:40,300 --> 01:15:43,200
driven from between the two parts.

923
01:15:44,260 --> 01:15:53,260
Well, and thank you also for all your input throughout. Yes, we are bringing the county out to

924
01:15:53,260 --> 01:15:55,300
just look at that as well.

925
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,480
Where are the right connections to Blue Mountain Reservation?

926
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:02,540
And so it's a thank you.

927
01:16:02,540 --> 01:16:03,760
Thank you.

928
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,840
We're all following up on your good ideas.

929
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,520
Thank you.

930
01:16:08,780 --> 01:16:11,880
Based on the amount of secured funding,

931
01:16:12,180 --> 01:16:13,680
do we have any sort of timeline

932
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,200
when we might start seeing some of the playground improvements?

933
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,420
I assume we're going to tear these improvements

934
01:16:19,420 --> 01:16:21,280
as we get more funds to do them.

935
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,520
But what are we looking at in terms of potentials starting?

936
01:16:26,060 --> 01:16:34,660
Well, actually we're thinking of doing all at once.

937
01:16:35,460 --> 01:16:45,480
And the reason is that one mobilization is much more efficient and less costly.

938
01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:58,540
And, but, if we don't get a grant or they stall, then we will begin in terms of phases.

939
01:16:59,140 --> 01:17:08,960
So, we're set up to do phases, but we're hoping that we're going to apply for the grants this year,

940
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:15,320
the perspective grants and we're hoping if we'll get it we'll know by the end of this year

941
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:24,740
and then it takes a while to process all these grants and just if you get the award and

942
01:17:24,740 --> 01:17:31,280
you have it and you have the money but getting it contract with painful, cumbersome process

943
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,820
much because of the state system and requirements.

944
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:47,360
So we're hoping that we was start and we go out to bid in the fall of 2026 because you need

945
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:52,760
to have all the grants under contract and start in early 2027.

946
01:17:54,060 --> 01:18:00,440
If we start not getting grants then we can start to face it.

947
01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:02,800
we've kind of worked that out as well.

948
01:18:03,460 --> 01:18:06,120
The poll is a whole nother matter.

949
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:12,000
That will be separate and we'll go on its own timeline.

950
01:18:12,380 --> 01:18:16,940
We already have Saratoga doing some preliminary designs

951
01:18:16,940 --> 01:18:19,600
and we've met with your pool staff at Jonathan,

952
01:18:20,440 --> 01:18:23,920
just to get enough to apply for the grant.

953
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:29,020
But if we can get both, so they match each other,

954
01:18:29,020 --> 01:18:39,600
Um, that, you know, want to do some heavy duty engineering and so forth and so on and that problem where you will be on a later timeline.

955
01:18:40,340 --> 01:18:49,820
Uh, particularly the federal grant, the federal grants require us to convert and award and to a contract or really earners.

956
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:53,120
And we're here to do that with you and for you.

957
01:18:53,300 --> 01:18:55,500
But that slows it down a little bit.

958
01:18:55,500 --> 01:18:59,960
Thank you Rose. I just wanted for clarification. So when she's talking about the playground's map,

959
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:05,220
that is separate from the other grant that we have for all of the playgrounds. This is just for the playground

960
01:19:05,220 --> 01:19:11,320
being the pupil. Correct. Correct. All right. All right. Just our residents who are looking at

961
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:16,340
other playgrounds that we have a grant for that we're working on, but I don't want anybody to

962
01:19:16,340 --> 01:19:21,460
get that next stuff. These are two separate projects, totally and two separate streams of funding.

963
01:19:21,460 --> 01:19:24,740
So, anybody else have questions or comments?

964
01:19:26,540 --> 01:19:30,420
I'm really excited to see this project roll out,

965
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,240
and thank you for your help with it.

966
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,060
It's been terrific working with you.

967
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,240
It was wonderful working with the City of Peacefield.

968
01:19:40,300 --> 01:19:41,400
You're all fabulous.

969
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:43,140
There was some talk.

970
01:19:43,340 --> 01:19:49,900
There was some talk of changing the traffic directions in the parking.

971
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:57,220
It's a fact that we're leaving all the road systems as they are, the access roads into the

972
01:19:57,220 --> 01:20:06,300
park or are we reversing them, I think the access to where the parking is for the pool

973
01:20:06,300 --> 01:20:06,720
and stuff.

974
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:11,080
I believe there was some planning that was done to modify that.

975
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:32,620
There was, and we're definitely thinking about that, and we're waiting to see where we are with the pool, and it's less of a, and it would be something that we would do at the end once we've, you know, was construction's finished.

976
01:20:40,060 --> 01:20:43,320
Thank you so very much. I appreciate your presentation.

977
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:45,160
Thank you.

978
01:20:45,180 --> 01:20:45,760
Thank you, Rose.

979
01:20:59,230 --> 01:21:02,670
So next up, I believe we have.

980
01:21:04,230 --> 01:21:04,810
Tentrum.

981
01:21:06,550 --> 01:21:06,830
Ten.

982
01:21:08,410 --> 01:21:08,710
Ten.

983
01:21:08,710 --> 01:21:20,850
you can see. So sustainable Westchester is here to talk to us about the Westchester power program,

984
01:21:21,270 --> 01:21:27,510
the CCI, the city is involved in Dan. Can I plug this? Sure here.

985
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,680
Here we

986
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:43,220
go.

987
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,120
Let me know what I have left.

988
01:22:08,870 --> 01:22:11,570
Yeah after um half an hour, I'll be through.

989
01:22:12,990 --> 01:22:14,590
Because you're not doing great.

990
01:22:15,610 --> 01:22:18,030
Yeah but I

991
01:22:18,030 --> 01:22:19,650
Have

992
01:22:26,630 --> 01:22:31,550
been there.

993
01:22:31,650 --> 01:22:32,890
Well of sex.

994
01:22:33,370 --> 01:22:34,810
Okay, I'm sorry.

995
01:22:37,790 --> 01:22:44,930
Yeah, yeah, I did that in terms of the slide show, but when I did that, it had to be

996
01:22:44,930 --> 01:22:46,930
a room slide, every close as far.

997
01:22:47,330 --> 01:22:49,350
Are you getting any cooler?

998
01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:51,530
No, you can turn it off.

999
01:22:51,530 --> 01:22:51,730
I'm okay.

1000
01:22:52,010 --> 01:22:52,430
I can turn it off.

1001
01:22:54,110 --> 01:22:54,350
Yeah.

1002
01:22:55,350 --> 01:22:55,670
Wait there.

1003
01:22:57,530 --> 01:22:58,150
Hello, everyone.

1004
01:22:59,150 --> 01:23:04,070
I heard the comment from the early gentleman not being so good seeing, seeing,

1005
01:23:04,070 --> 01:23:22,350
people here and so often, we're here not too long ago, but the situation with the bidding process for the new contract and everything is such that we wanted to come early everybody to see everybody.

1006
01:23:22,350 --> 01:23:26,170
So I'm Dan Welch, I'm with Sustainable Westchester,

1007
01:23:28,810 --> 01:23:37,470
and I'm not going to skip through the sort of climate change stuff because you guys are climate smart certified and all the rest of it.

1008
01:23:37,690 --> 01:23:48,190
But just for the orientation of the public, this is a climate-oriented initiative, the electricity program.

1009
01:23:48,190 --> 01:23:59,470
And obviously, the challenges still here, the state plan is aggressive, but we're falling

1010
01:23:59,470 --> 01:24:00,730
short on it.

1011
01:24:00,950 --> 01:24:05,990
One of the answers of Westchester County has been to work collectively, doing amazing

1012
01:24:05,990 --> 01:24:12,730
work on the local level, but some things are easier done when you pull your resources.

1013
01:24:12,730 --> 01:24:17,090
So sustainable Westchester is an air municipal consortium.

1014
01:24:17,210 --> 01:24:23,310
That serves as a shared service to help the unit's authorities,

1015
01:24:23,890 --> 01:24:26,370
programs that would be difficult to do on their own.

1016
01:24:26,590 --> 01:24:29,770
And this is just a quick look at the sort of portfolio,

1017
01:24:30,410 --> 01:24:34,150
and includes all sorts of work and the energy side of things,

1018
01:24:34,370 --> 01:24:37,290
building, decarbonization, working with a lot of partners,

1019
01:24:37,290 --> 01:24:44,430
countywide, and a lot of innovation to these community choice aggregation program that we're going

1020
01:24:44,430 --> 01:24:51,730
to talk about today is a first-in-state. We had the first residential demand response. There's

1021
01:24:51,730 --> 01:24:59,590
people in the Peace Corps participating in that and so forth. And so the Wester's Power Electricity

1022
01:24:59,590 --> 01:25:07,170
program obviously is targeted towards the yellow chunk of our carbon footprint, the residential

1023
01:25:07,170 --> 01:25:19,470
energy consumption. And to that end, the program is organized in an opt-in format as far

1024
01:25:19,470 --> 01:25:26,450
as the municipalities are concerned. We do have 26 municipalities participating approximately

1025
01:25:26,450 --> 01:25:33,650
130,000 residents in small businesses within those participating municipalities in the program.

1026
01:25:33,650 --> 01:25:43,990
In peak scale, there's about 4,700 plus residents in small businesses enrolled as the end of February.

1027
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:51,950
And again, we always want to do just a quick electricity 101 for four folks,

1028
01:25:52,250 --> 01:25:59,370
because it's important to understand the distinction at least between what the utility does and what the program does.

1029
01:25:59,370 --> 01:26:12,070
So, the Westerster Power Program is about your energy supply that basically is identifying where you're buying your power from who is actually generating the power for you.

1030
01:26:12,390 --> 01:26:24,150
And then the utilities are always going to take care of the logistics of getting that power to you and the hardware, the lines, the billing, all that.

1031
01:26:24,150 --> 01:26:30,750
And so when you are with which is the power, or if you've signed up to a private supplier

1032
01:26:31,410 --> 01:26:34,590
yourself, you're going to see that supplier name on the bill.

1033
01:26:35,410 --> 01:26:38,990
If you're not with the private supplier, you won't see anything.

1034
01:26:39,610 --> 01:26:41,790
It'll just say, kind of there.

1035
01:26:43,210 --> 01:26:50,770
The program, obviously again, is directed at trying to leverage our collective buying power

1036
01:26:50,770 --> 01:26:55,730
with a goal of increasing the access and uptake of renewable energy.

1037
01:26:56,630 --> 01:27:05,130
It's a fixed-rate program, as in contrast to the utility offering, which is a monthly variable rate,

1038
01:27:05,590 --> 01:27:08,330
where you only know the rate after the month is over.

1039
01:27:09,490 --> 01:27:15,850
And it serves as a platform for a lot of other sustainability initiatives.

1040
01:27:16,970 --> 01:27:26,490
The key features of the program in terms of the way it operates, number one, it's an opt-out program, and you heard that word earlier today.

1041
01:27:26,930 --> 01:27:40,770
That means that the eligible customers are getting a letter at the program, or at the start of every new contract, it says, here are the terms of the new contract.

1042
01:27:40,770 --> 01:27:49,050
If you don't want to be in, you need to contact us and will opt you about or if you want to change your supply and need to contact us.

1043
01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:52,690
So that's the nature of the opt-out program.

1044
01:27:53,470 --> 01:28:04,930
But you can do that at any time and through all sorts of media whether it be email or the online forms or call us on the phone, whatever medium you're comfortable with.

1045
01:28:05,490 --> 01:28:08,750
And there are a couple of different supply options, so there's flexibility there.

1046
01:28:09,230 --> 01:28:22,050
As a fixed rate program, we can never say that we can guarantee or we know you're going to save money or anything like that because we don't know what the future will bring for the utility rates.

1047
01:28:22,690 --> 01:28:27,110
So we have to make sure that everybody knows it's not a guaranteed savings program.

1048
01:28:27,110 --> 01:28:34,990
program has had a huge effect over its lifetime in the year 2024.

1049
01:28:37,010 --> 01:28:44,630
We mitigated over 327,000 venture tons of carbon dioxide through the collective participation

1050
01:28:44,630 --> 01:28:45,650
in this program.

1051
01:28:45,970 --> 01:28:52,270
That's very hard to sort of get a handle on what that actually means.

1052
01:28:52,270 --> 01:28:59,570
the EPA has a little calculator where you can translate that into things that are more tangible,

1053
01:28:59,890 --> 01:29:03,710
so it's equal to, say, for 76,000 cars off the road, et cetera.

1054
01:29:04,190 --> 01:29:13,550
There's a social cost of carbon is something that the DC does in terms of assessing what the,

1055
01:29:13,550 --> 01:29:22,170
what the associated damage of releasing that carbon into the environment would be, come back to

1056
01:29:22,170 --> 01:29:30,930
sort of consumer friendly consumer choice, as fact of it, it's when you bring CCA into your

1057
01:29:30,930 --> 01:29:35,670
community that means you have one more choice than you had before, essentially, before you

1058
01:29:35,670 --> 01:29:42,350
have CCA, then you're either with utility or you have to go out on your own and seek some

1059
01:29:42,350 --> 01:29:49,090
options within the private asco suppliers. When you bring in the CCA, you have those original

1060
01:29:49,090 --> 01:29:57,130
choices, but then you additionally, you have the community selected default supply as well.

1061
01:29:57,850 --> 01:29:59,330
And again, the...

1062
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:28,160
There's various methods that you can use to affect your transactions. If you want to change your supply or you want to change the supply or opt out. During the enrollment periods, when you receive your letter, there will be a card in that envelope and that's one way to opt out. Otherwise, as I said, online, by email or by phone, and there's never any penalties to make any of those changes.

1063
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:38,380
you can come back in as well if you like, if, say, your situation changes or you feel the market has changed in a way that argues for that.

1064
01:30:38,740 --> 01:30:46,160
This is just an obvious representation of the fixed rate versus what you see with the utilities,

1065
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:51,300
so it does provide sort of a cap on what you're going to see on your bill.

1066
01:30:51,300 --> 01:30:56,000
So here is where we are in a recent few months.

1067
01:30:56,780 --> 01:31:00,340
It's the left column, our hour rates.

1068
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:05,260
We put up a non-renewable equivalent rate there.

1069
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:09,340
In other words, pulling out the cost of the renewable energy.

1070
01:31:09,500 --> 01:31:14,300
Certificate that is the medium for us buying the renewable power.

1071
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:19,520
Just to give you sense of sort of how we're doing in the market relative

1072
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:23,660
to what the conneson rates have been.

1073
01:31:24,580 --> 01:31:28,040
So we're doing OK relative to conneson at this point.

1074
01:31:28,300 --> 01:31:31,560
You're likely to see a little dip in the spring time yet,

1075
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,400
and then it pops back up in the summer,

1076
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,900
at least that's the way the market used to work.

1077
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,660
The whole markets are a little bit crazy right now.

1078
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:44,300
And just to show how we've done historically,

1079
01:31:45,460 --> 01:31:48,700
on the whole, we've been OK relative to the utility.

1080
01:31:48,700 --> 01:32:00,080
With the exception of the two years of the prior contract, everybody that is a very painful experience with that, we want to recognize that that is the case.

1081
01:32:01,260 --> 01:32:07,200
But here on this chart here, you can see we've been otherwise in a ballpark versus the utility.

1082
01:32:09,060 --> 01:32:13,420
The big part of what we do is communicating with customers.

1083
01:32:15,340 --> 01:32:17,120
They're calling us for all types of things.

1084
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,620
They're calling us for things that are not necessarily directly,

1085
01:32:22,380 --> 01:32:27,540
in our scope, but we're helping them as best we can to find the right answers to those questions.

1086
01:32:28,980 --> 01:32:34,100
And we're providing more and more in the way of bilingual resources.

1087
01:32:34,100 --> 01:32:42,240
we now have 20 percent staff. We have four native Spanish speakers and we're having more Spanish

1088
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:51,900
events and of course dealing with these Spanish phone calls coming in. This is just again

1089
01:32:51,900 --> 01:33:00,080
to emphasize that the program sort of serves as a platform for engagement with residents

1090
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:07,900
on a whole raft of things, we've got the building energy work where thousands of people have

1091
01:33:07,900 --> 01:33:15,360
been helped to access state programs to help them tighten up their homes and improve their

1092
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:21,720
their cost of energy for their homes. The grid rewards program here in peak skills had a good

1093
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:28,220
number of people participating saving savings and dollars there. We heard about community solar

1094
01:33:28,220 --> 01:33:34,960
here earlier and there's quite a few subscribers to that as well we've

1095
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:43,020
served as the aggregation agent for many projects so far and we'll come back to that

1096
01:33:43,020 --> 01:33:50,060
also and again the education side are buildings people have been out having

1097
01:33:50,060 --> 01:33:54,920
sessions which is it called the energy kit sessions which I think they've done a

1098
01:33:54,920 --> 01:34:02,220
here in peak skill, which is helping people to access resources if they've got to reduce their energy costs.

1099
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:09,920
And we talked earlier in the earlier discussion of your solar project.

1100
01:34:10,100 --> 01:34:17,440
There was an mention of, again, opt-out programming versus the solar installations.

1101
01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:22,800
And that the solar-for-all program is an opt-out program as well.

1102
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:39,380
As I mentioned, we had a proposal into the Public Service Commission now for almost three years to set up an opt-out community solar program, which would actually sort of be the best of both worlds.

1103
01:34:39,380 --> 01:34:47,100
you would have the opt-out ease of enrolling the low and middle-income customers, but you'd

1104
01:34:47,100 --> 01:34:56,740
be able to target it as you please. We submitted probably a month ago an update to our submission

1105
01:34:56,740 --> 01:35:03,140
asking them to set us up as a pilot for that. So it occurred to me as I'm listening to this.

1106
01:35:03,660 --> 01:35:10,040
maybe it might be something that would be of interest to peak skill and perhaps a good word

1107
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:13,320
with the folks up there would be helpful.

1108
01:35:15,460 --> 01:35:21,020
There will be one of the, we're starting as earlier than we would normally have for a couple

1109
01:35:21,020 --> 01:35:21,460
of reasons.

1110
01:35:21,460 --> 01:35:31,200
One is we want to have a longer runway for the bidding just in case when we go to bid, you know,

1111
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:36,020
You see a bump in the market and say, we have the luxury then of saying, you know, let's

1112
01:35:36,020 --> 01:35:39,500
wait another three weeks and reap, reap it.

1113
01:35:40,140 --> 01:35:46,520
But one of the other reasons we want the longer run way is that the DPS has set out in

1114
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:56,740
the rules, which has increased the amount of post-alwart outreach initiatives, sessions,

1115
01:35:56,740 --> 01:36:05,260
public meetings, virtual sessions, and physical outreach that we need to do, so it's going

1116
01:36:05,260 --> 01:36:10,980
to stretch things out. Which is a good thing. Although some of the ways that they view

1117
01:36:10,980 --> 01:36:17,200
outreach, you know, we would think would be better applied in other directions, but it's all

1118
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:27,160
Let's see, yeah, then this is just to make sure that people understand that the folks

1119
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:32,780
who are in the assistance programs are not eligible for this ECI, so they would be excluded

1120
01:36:32,780 --> 01:36:33,320
from this.

1121
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:39,680
They, of course, you know, have options to participate in the community solar programs and you're

1122
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:40,520
working on that.

1123
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:46,720
They can also participate in the grid rewards, the demand response, and make a few dollars

1124
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:58,080
off of the three or four peak day calls that come and again our buildings folks are out there

1125
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:04,140
holding meetings in the community to make sure that everybody who's qualified for the

1126
01:37:04,140 --> 01:37:09,380
empowered program can get you subsidies to upgrade your housing stock.

1127
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,220
This is then speaking

1128
01:37:14,220 --> 01:37:19,940
again to, but I just kind of jumped the gun on the schedule stuff. Again, our contract

1129
01:37:19,940 --> 01:37:25,480
does go through November 30. In years past, you probably would have seen us, you know,

1130
01:37:25,480 --> 01:37:30,120
we would have done kind of a high-high-high, you're doing meeting now or in another month.

1131
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:37,340
And then later on, come to for the specifics on the, on the participation, MOU, but we want

1132
01:37:37,340 --> 01:37:43,640
to go right to the MOU stage so that we have the extra month or two, again, flexibility

1133
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:51,820
on the procurement. And also to allow plenty of time for the outreach. So that's the primary reason behind that.

1134
01:37:54,040 --> 01:38:08,900
And that's pretty much the backdrop of why we're here today. And you have in hand the standard contract draft and the MOU format hasn't really changed over the years.

1135
01:38:11,660 --> 01:38:21,420
Yeah, I just want to underscore my understanding that the kind of prices change month to month, right?

1136
01:38:21,900 --> 01:38:27,640
So some months that may look like we're doing better and some not.

1137
01:38:28,220 --> 01:38:35,520
And you base how we're doing on the compilation of the entire year compared to,

1138
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:43,220
I'm sorry if the program that you're representing has this fixed rate every month.

1139
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:50,460
Yeah, yes, so that does make it a little difficult for people because the last

1140
01:38:50,460 --> 01:38:56,680
year will I do better or will I, will I not and I, you know, we can't answer that question

1141
01:38:56,680 --> 01:39:03,980
and that's unsatisfying, you know, but yeah, you would want to look over a long period of

1142
01:39:03,980 --> 01:39:10,360
time, and it does vary. In general, we're paying a, you know, some kind of modest premium

1143
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:17,160
for renewable, I'm saying it's fair to say that. But then there's also times when stuff

1144
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:22,500
happens and kind of rates go way up and, you know, we have a safe harbor for that.

1145
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:28,960
And can some people in the program opt into the renewable, or does everybody have to opt

1146
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,240
into the same thing.

1147
01:39:31,700 --> 01:39:33,460
Well, there's two, there'll be two offerings.

1148
01:39:33,660 --> 01:39:39,100
It's a 50% renewable and 100% in the last round, peak

1149
01:39:39,100 --> 01:39:43,340
skill was in 100%, but everybody has the option to switch

1150
01:39:43,340 --> 01:39:44,740
into the 50%.

1151
01:39:44,740 --> 01:39:49,500
We used to have a non-redoable offering, a couple of rounds

1152
01:39:49,500 --> 01:39:54,140
battery in there, but the way the DPS set up the new rules

1153
01:39:54,140 --> 01:39:58,120
is really impossible to get a bit that meets their requirement

1154
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:02,280
right now for that. So they kind of, you know, pushing you, if you're going to do this kind

1155
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:08,400
of program, you may as well do it for, you know, renewable. But we do have the 50% which

1156
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:14,520
does shave, you know, roughly a penny off of your kilowatt hour cost. Yeah, because it's cost

1157
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:20,660
to them, there's cost. And we all have to be very mindful of what's happening in the environment.

1158
01:40:21,260 --> 01:40:27,760
So thank you. Yeah, sure. And, you know, I should say there's lots of speculation about all types

1159
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:35,480
things in the economy now, and certainly energy was one of them, and when the top came

1160
01:40:35,480 --> 01:40:43,740
up of tariffs for Canada, that was going to include some of the energy resources that we

1161
01:40:43,740 --> 01:40:51,380
depend on here in New York, and we still don't know exactly where that's going to land, but

1162
01:40:51,380 --> 01:40:59,880
That was something that at least, again, if the worst happens, at least, got a place to be.

1163
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:07,120
Just to be clear, based on your chart and the information you've provided, peak skill

1164
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:12,480
joined in 2019 to this program, I think, and it looks like five out of the six years

1165
01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:17,500
that potentially has cost more to be part of the program, looks like 2022 was the win.

1166
01:41:18,380 --> 01:41:25,240
My question is, how many households or businesses in peak skill are currently opted out of this program?

1167
01:41:27,790 --> 01:41:31,010
I don't remember the exact number, but it's not insignificant.

1168
01:41:31,730 --> 01:41:36,190
It's probably, it could be as much as 2000, it's my guess.

1169
01:41:36,650 --> 01:41:40,210
People are opted in still than opted out of the program.

1170
01:41:40,710 --> 01:41:45,430
Yeah, I think you started at maybe six, seven thousand or something like that.

1171
01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:46,170
Thank you.

1172
01:41:46,970 --> 01:41:47,550
Anyone else?

1173
01:41:47,550 --> 01:41:47,870
questions.

1174
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:54,540
Thank you. Thank you very much.

1175
01:42:11,490 --> 01:42:12,130
Thank you for

1176
01:42:12,130 --> 01:42:13,670
patiently waiting for us, Dan.

1177
01:42:18,690 --> 01:42:20,950
Okay, next up we have our city

1178
01:42:20,950 --> 01:42:26,050
clerk, Cassandra Redner, who's going to talk to us about three items and we're

1179
01:42:26,050 --> 01:42:29,990
going to start with the flea market. Thank you, Matt. Good evening, Mary

1180
01:42:29,990 --> 01:42:36,850
Council. Good evening. So the first item will continue the discussion for the

1181
01:42:36,850 --> 01:42:44,910
the flea market as you see in the memo, the bid would like to propose a new location on James

1182
01:42:44,910 --> 01:42:52,150
Street for Maine and Park Street. Chief Duluth Geese had visited the proposed site and his

1183
01:42:52,150 --> 01:43:00,870
recommendations are listed for signage and barrels. The signage will be needed on James Street

1184
01:43:00,870 --> 01:43:02,930
similar to that, which was on bank.

1185
01:43:03,850 --> 01:43:06,550
The quick of the signs go up, the better for everyone.

1186
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:10,040
It will benefit all.

1187
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:13,680
The barrels will be needed at the intersections for

1188
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:16,680
James and Maine, James and Park,

1189
01:43:17,060 --> 01:43:19,420
and the James Street Garage exit.

1190
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:25,040
So we would like to, for the discusses with the council.

1191
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:30,140
The standard, what is the signage that we're looking for?

1192
01:43:30,140 --> 01:43:32,980
is that the permanent signage and the DPW signage

1193
01:43:32,980 --> 01:43:34,840
that goes on the streets regarding parking?

1194
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:37,240
Is that what the chief was suggesting?

1195
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:38,720
We get underway.

1196
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:39,320
Chief?

1197
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:41,000
Is that a thumbs-up chief?

1198
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:43,160
Yes, thank you.

1199
01:43:47,480 --> 01:43:48,100
Anybody else?

1200
01:43:48,340 --> 01:43:51,080
So it's from Maine to Park.

1201
01:43:52,060 --> 01:43:53,720
From Maine to we're correct.

1202
01:43:53,820 --> 01:43:56,840
Where cable is and sea town right there?

1203
01:43:57,480 --> 01:43:58,600
So is that something else?

1204
01:43:58,640 --> 01:43:59,880
Before the intersection, yeah.

1205
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:02,640
Before the intersection, that's

1206
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:10,820
proposed location. That's being proposed by the bid. So I would guess that yes, that is big

1207
01:44:10,820 --> 01:44:17,860
or not with them. That seems like is that comparable size to what's happening now?

1208
01:44:18,580 --> 01:44:20,560
Bill powers is here. Maybe Bill could explain.

1209
01:44:20,620 --> 01:44:23,220
Thank you. How does choice came to be?

1210
01:44:25,860 --> 01:44:26,960
Good evening Mayor and council.

1211
01:44:27,300 --> 01:44:27,480
Good evening.

1212
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:32,940
So the bid board voted last week to move the flea market off a bang street to

1213
01:44:32,940 --> 01:44:37,300
change street from Park the Main Street. The board felt compelled to keep the flea

1214
01:44:37,300 --> 01:44:41,160
market in the downtown and move it outside of the downtown to keep those

1215
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:46,460
2000 people coming in from, you know, the surrounding areas on Sunday, while still

1216
01:44:46,460 --> 01:44:49,440
honoring the wishes of a limited number of people businesses on

1217
01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:53,900
bank street that were opposed to the flea market. We'll continue to work with the

1218
01:44:53,900 --> 01:44:58,740
city to address the parking in trash issues, which they brought up to us as well,

1219
01:44:58,740 --> 01:44:59,980
which I don't think are direct.

1220
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,380
We related to the flea market. I think there's just constant issues that we need to take a look at. So, James Street from Maine to Park is our only viable option.

1221
01:45:07,860 --> 01:45:13,820
It's slightly longer than bangstreet, so we can accommodate the same number of vendors, so that was a good thing.

1222
01:45:14,500 --> 01:45:24,980
And we can accommodate, not just the vendors, but it's also just one block over, so that people who were used to coming to bangstreet can probably find it pretty easily and we'll do some additional signage.

1223
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:29,980
The other thing I just want to mention is that the foot traffic really was important to the

1224
01:45:29,980 --> 01:45:31,540
bit board to keep it in the downtown.

1225
01:45:32,300 --> 01:45:34,840
I know you have a long agenda, but I know you're going to get questions.

1226
01:45:35,740 --> 01:45:38,040
So why the other locations were rejected.

1227
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:42,080
So the high school parking lot was rejected because too close to the residential neighborhoods.

1228
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:47,020
You're going to have 50 vendors coming in with cars and corridors opening and closing

1229
01:45:47,020 --> 01:45:47,600
and noise.

1230
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:51,760
You know, I know the neighborhood is used to the school activities there, but Sunday might

1231
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:52,620
be their only respite.

1232
01:45:52,620 --> 01:46:00,640
So we wanted it to be respectful of the neighborhood, the top of the James Street garage was also rejected because of safety concerns

1233
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:05,300
and whether the elevator could withstand the thousand trips on a Sunday.

1234
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:11,840
It's an aging elevator and we were really concerned about that if nobody can get up or down in the parking garage it really does

1235
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:15,500
present a both a security issue and a safety issue.

1236
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:20,960
Also, half the vehicles wouldn't fit in the garage because there is a limit on the hate

1237
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:21,580
getting in.

1238
01:46:22,220 --> 01:46:23,320
So, that was another concern.

1239
01:46:23,480 --> 01:46:27,520
We looked at Brown Street, which was discussed a couple of weeks ago, that too was rejected

1240
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:32,400
primarily because of the residential neighborhood that it butts up against, again, residents

1241
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:36,240
are used to a quiet Sunday morning and it would create quite a bit of noise.

1242
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:42,380
And then we also looked at South Street, from Depute of Washington, but there are residential

1243
01:46:43,140 --> 01:46:47,980
homes in the middle of that block that require access with their driveway, so again, not

1244
01:46:47,980 --> 01:46:48,780
fair to them.

1245
01:46:49,100 --> 01:46:51,800
And lastly, we did look at the riverfront parking lot.

1246
01:46:51,980 --> 01:46:55,860
It was rejected because it is outside the business improvement district and also the city

1247
01:46:55,860 --> 01:46:59,940
as you know is considering potential development there, so we'd have to move the flea market

1248
01:46:59,940 --> 01:47:01,400
again at some point in the future.

1249
01:47:02,500 --> 01:47:03,520
I'll be answering questions.

1250
01:47:04,060 --> 01:47:04,440
Questions?

1251
01:47:04,440 --> 01:47:06,200
Thank you for that.

1252
01:47:07,020 --> 01:47:11,960
Letting our residents here in your explanation and how much you worked on this, much appreciated.

1253
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:14,480
I'm glad it is going to still be in the downtown.

1254
01:47:14,500 --> 01:47:16,520
I feel that is very important too.

1255
01:47:16,780 --> 01:47:19,400
I know people that attend that flea market every week.

1256
01:47:19,820 --> 01:47:22,600
And I was getting phone calls saying, is it going away?

1257
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:24,120
We hope it's not going away.

1258
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:26,640
So I'm glad that everybody put their heads together.

1259
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:27,680
You worked hard on this.

1260
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:30,800
And I think that will be a viable site for it.

1261
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:35,720
And I hope more great success for all the businesses of Beakskill.

1262
01:47:36,140 --> 01:47:36,460
Thank you.

1263
01:47:36,540 --> 01:47:37,140
So I appreciate that.

1264
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:42,960
And I also appreciate the Mayor's help in connecting us with the school district, initially, to see if that was a viable option.

1265
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:43,780
Thank you.

1266
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:45,020
Thanks on your work on that.

1267
01:47:45,260 --> 01:47:48,360
I think it sounds like a good solution to me.

1268
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:49,320
Thank you.

1269
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:49,820
Thank you.

1270
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:53,080
I mean, I think it's a great place also.

1271
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:59,900
And just about some of the concerns, the business probe,

1272
01:47:59,900 --> 01:48:09,760
And that meeting was meeting, maybe to have, you know, to resolve that, prevent that, that doesn't happen.

1273
01:48:10,300 --> 01:48:20,360
It is possible maybe to have a like a beacon container, like a garbage container, like, in that area, like for the garbage pickup.

1274
01:48:20,740 --> 01:48:26,840
Sure. Again, I think, you know, there's a little bit larger discussion with the city in terms of garbage pickup for Sunday.

1275
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:31,600
Matt, I don't want to speak for you, but we are looking at doing a lot more potentially

1276
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:37,400
on a pilot program to keep the whole downtown cleaner, not just where the flea market is.

1277
01:48:37,500 --> 01:48:42,800
I also don't believe that the trash is being generated by the vendors from the flea market.

1278
01:48:43,460 --> 01:48:46,600
They're required to take whatever they bring in back out.

1279
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:52,720
Well, just like the restaurant makes, I'm like, because sometimes he's a garbage container

1280
01:48:52,720 --> 01:49:00,740
are flowed after that, so just now we heard them, and though the thing is, well, you mentioned

1281
01:49:00,740 --> 01:49:05,720
about maybe the soup or marker, that there are conversations with the, there are, the good

1282
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:10,360
thing, there are not too many business over there, but our no business is on that stretch,

1283
01:49:10,740 --> 01:49:16,240
and then face out onto the change screen. Only two, and there was another thing that was mentioned,

1284
01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:20,700
like if people, the restaurant, the thing, the restaurant say they have a delivery, and there

1285
01:49:20,700 --> 01:49:22,240
There's no answer for that.

1286
01:49:22,300 --> 01:49:25,380
We find around the Chinese restaurant in the Mexican daily.

1287
01:49:25,740 --> 01:49:27,400
They do a delivery from that side.

1288
01:49:27,620 --> 01:49:30,600
Just in case to maybe, we're gonna chat with them.

1289
01:49:31,060 --> 01:49:32,780
Like usually the Sunday delivery is even

1290
01:49:32,780 --> 01:49:35,240
with La Placita, there were no Sunday deliveries.

1291
01:49:35,540 --> 01:49:37,560
When we looked at the Brown Street area.

1292
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:39,460
Just for mention of that.

1293
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:40,960
And I think early in the morning,

1294
01:49:40,980 --> 01:49:42,680
maybe they don't have it too many things,

1295
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:44,860
but it's something that's really a force

1296
01:49:44,860 --> 01:49:48,220
or maybe something to consider.

1297
01:49:48,220 --> 01:49:55,320
And, and the other thing is about the, the portable restaurant, like, we're going to bring them in, yeah.

1298
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:56,220
All right.

1299
01:49:57,300 --> 01:49:57,760
So, it's good.

1300
01:49:57,820 --> 01:49:58,300
Thank you.

1301
01:49:58,400 --> 01:49:58,720
Thank you.

1302
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:00,140
I appreciate your support.

1303
01:50:00,440 --> 01:50:04,120
I want to say thank you for really looking at this and hearing the concerns of everybody

1304
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:06,320
and trying to come up with a viable solution.

1305
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:13,340
I do think that moving this there will actually bring some life and foot traffic to some of those restaurants in that area,

1306
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:32,680
I think it brings more opportunity for people to have other places to eat and pick up things, and yet still be close in the downtown to visit all the other vendors and stores.

1307
01:50:32,900 --> 01:50:35,180
And they have to come through downtown again, so it's great.

1308
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:36,780
Thank you so much.

1309
01:50:36,780 --> 01:50:43,940
It'll just a quick scheduling question. If we pass the resolution next week on the 14th, we will let's

1310
01:50:43,940 --> 01:50:51,060
start on the 24th. Yes, okay. Thank you. Thanks for your hard work. Thank you.

1311
01:50:51,060 --> 01:50:52,620
Thank you. Thank you.

1312
01:50:52,620 --> 01:50:52,700
Thank you.

1313
01:50:52,700 --> 01:50:52,780
Thank you. Thank you.

1314
01:50:57,630 --> 01:51:01,750
The only thing we'd have to do is to move it.

1315
01:51:02,990 --> 01:51:06,090
We would just have to describe the new location.

1316
01:51:06,090 --> 01:51:08,370
and do a resolution.

1317
01:51:08,910 --> 01:51:09,930
For the street closure.

1318
01:51:10,570 --> 01:51:13,850
The street closure for the 14th.

1319
01:51:13,850 --> 01:51:18,390
If we pass it on the 14th, then they will be able to open on the 21st.

1320
01:51:18,590 --> 01:51:19,690
Okay, thank you.

1321
01:51:19,750 --> 01:51:21,930
In every move that sign as a recommendation,

1322
01:51:22,370 --> 01:51:24,730
I think that there are signs in the parking lot also,

1323
01:51:24,790 --> 01:51:26,410
in all of the on-brand street.

1324
01:51:28,290 --> 01:51:30,610
Do you feel like I'm sorry, I didn't hear you?

1325
01:51:31,170 --> 01:51:34,010
I have there are signs also by the parking lot,

1326
01:51:34,010 --> 01:51:40,890
by so we restaurant to say those in parking on Sundays over here. So that should be

1327
01:51:40,890 --> 01:51:44,910
maybe the all the signs will be made appropriate. Yeah. Okay.

1328
01:51:51,150 --> 01:51:55,090
Thank you. So next up we will move

1329
01:51:55,090 --> 01:52:04,870
to the street closure for of the railroad avenue for Mother's Y.A. Market. The arts 105.66

1330
01:52:04,870 --> 01:52:07,490
submitted an application to the city requesting

1331
01:52:07,490 --> 01:52:13,270
street closure on Saturday, May 10th from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.

1332
01:52:13,410 --> 01:52:17,330
with the rain date of Sunday, May 11th for the purpose

1333
01:52:17,330 --> 01:52:19,830
of hosting the Mother's Y.A. Market.

1334
01:52:20,710 --> 01:52:23,790
This event aims to continue to encourage local shopping

1335
01:52:23,790 --> 01:52:26,990
by showcasing auditions and detainment

1336
01:52:26,990 --> 01:52:29,750
entertainers, excuse me, and community groups.

1337
01:52:32,980 --> 01:52:34,240
That's a lovely event.

1338
01:52:34,780 --> 01:52:37,300
And I think we should do it again.

1339
01:52:37,940 --> 01:52:38,200
Okay.

1340
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:39,380
I'm good with it.

1341
01:52:39,580 --> 01:52:39,660
Good.

1342
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:41,060
Thank you.

1343
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:41,600
Okay.

1344
01:52:41,860 --> 01:52:46,740
So if the council is okay with that, we'll bring a resolution back for our next week.

1345
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:47,820
Thank you.

1346
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:56,320
Last is the Cinco de Mayo Celebration.

1347
01:52:57,140 --> 01:53:04,340
So Ruben Alvarez of Ruben's Mexican Cafe has submitted an application to hold the annual Cinco de Mayo Celebration

1348
01:53:04,340 --> 01:53:11,800
on the Vision Street on Saturday May 3rd, 2025 from 1 p.m. to 1130.

1349
01:53:12,660 --> 01:53:17,020
Think of the mile is seen as a celebration of Mexican culture and heritage.

1350
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:27,340
The street closure would begin at 11 a.m. on the 3rd and then 12 in that 1230 on the 4th.

1351
01:53:28,660 --> 01:53:31,040
So Cassandra, when I was looking at this, yes.

1352
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:41,020
So it says for the visionary, but the map underneath shows that it's the visionary park street and up the other part of the vision.

1353
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:44,880
So I just want to make sure that if that's what we're doing, we're covering that.

1354
01:53:45,180 --> 01:53:47,680
And as a suggestion, the stage.

1355
01:53:48,100 --> 01:53:52,040
We found that the stage has worked the best when they push it down.

1356
01:53:52,780 --> 01:53:53,220
Thank you.

1357
01:53:53,480 --> 01:53:57,640
Central kind of pass or by the K-Lat parking.

1358
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:02,960
Okay, so we could refer that because that gives them area to push back for this stage

1359
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:07,820
and also have some seating and then leave that area up there for vendors and things that they need.

1360
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:13,360
But it looks like from this, from this drawing that they're going all the way up part street,

1361
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:17,780
kind of to the, to the parking lot, we just need to make sure of what it is that they're requesting.

1362
01:54:18,340 --> 01:54:23,400
Okay, and then it's going up north division, kind of by just before south street.

1363
01:54:23,580 --> 01:54:25,300
So is that whole area being closed?

1364
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:27,060
Because it doesn't say that in the memo.

1365
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:34,780
I think that was close last year.

1366
01:54:34,940 --> 01:54:37,920
I just want to make sure that if we're going to do a resolution that has all the

1367
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,360
complete areas, we'll do.

1368
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:47,220
Yeah, and in the map also it's the number one and number three is repeater.

1369
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:51,800
Like the Sal Division Street, Part Street, Sal Division Street, between Park and

1370
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:52,780
South Street.

1371
01:54:53,060 --> 01:54:53,640
Okay.

1372
01:54:54,060 --> 01:54:59,940
Maybe, maybe because that was the, it's right to include centrals.

1373
01:55:00,700 --> 01:55:00,820
Okay.

1374
01:55:00,820 --> 01:55:03,320
I will address that also with Ruben.

1375
01:55:03,580 --> 01:55:06,740
It's the time I thought it was 11 in the downtown.

1376
01:55:06,940 --> 01:55:08,120
Is it 1130?

1377
01:55:09,100 --> 01:55:12,480
It's going from one to 1130.

1378
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:15,280
You can write, but then you have it all for the cleanest room.

1379
01:55:15,540 --> 01:55:17,400
So the street won't be reopened until 1230.

1380
01:55:18,060 --> 01:55:20,580
OK, but I hope we stop at 11, downtown.

1381
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:22,940
Stop at the noise ordinance.

1382
01:55:23,140 --> 01:55:24,180
There's a lot of stuff.

1383
01:55:25,100 --> 01:55:25,240
Matt?

1384
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:27,080
The event will stop.

1385
01:55:27,620 --> 01:55:29,360
I don't know if it was the 1130 or 11.

1386
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:31,480
It was 1130.

1387
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:34,000
His request was 1130.

1388
01:55:34,340 --> 01:55:37,960
So we just need to check that with whatever ordinances.

1389
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:39,540
Yeah, I would just check the ordinance on that.

1390
01:55:39,540 --> 01:55:40,540
Okay, to make sure.

1391
01:55:40,940 --> 01:55:41,640
Yes, thank you.

1392
01:55:41,940 --> 01:55:46,120
My other question was, have you sat down with Mr. Alvarez at this point and discussed the fee structure?

1393
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:50,860
Last year there seemed to be some confusion as to why the event didn't happen.

1394
01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:54,600
And I just want to make sure that the fee structure has been discussed upfront.

1395
01:55:54,740 --> 01:55:55,480
It has.

1396
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:55,760
Okay.

1397
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:59,020
And he's understanding your process.

1398
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:00,880
Okay.

1399
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:03,300
Yes, he's understanding and okay with it.

1400
01:56:04,340 --> 01:56:05,880
Any other questions, Kelvin?

1401
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:08,020
Just clarify for me, Mary.

1402
01:56:08,140 --> 01:56:11,440
You were suggesting pushing the bands down.

1403
01:56:12,300 --> 01:56:12,760
Central Avenue.

1404
01:56:13,300 --> 01:56:14,540
Oh, they're so it's not.

1405
01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:16,340
So you'd need a little bit more, too.

1406
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:17,440
Maybe to the K-Live.

1407
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:18,080
Right.

1408
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:18,160
Right.

1409
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:19,480
That's where the block holes are.

1410
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:20,880
You leave the opening to the K-Live.

1411
01:56:21,180 --> 01:56:21,300
Yeah.

1412
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:24,140
So they can drive out of the K-Live, but it's right before the K-Live.

1413
01:56:24,140 --> 01:56:25,420
and it just opens it up.

1414
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:26,640
Yeah, I think that works.

1415
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:29,660
So if you can mention that to Ruben.

1416
01:56:30,060 --> 01:56:32,860
OK, well, so as well as the CPW,

1417
01:56:32,860 --> 01:56:35,580
who'll be setting it up where we want it.

1418
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:37,680
And check with the police to just

1419
01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:40,220
make sure they're on board.

1420
01:56:40,740 --> 01:56:41,780
Discover some up.

1421
01:56:52,100 --> 01:56:54,960
OK, any more questions or recommendations?

1422
01:56:56,160 --> 01:56:57,040
I'm good.

1423
01:56:58,660 --> 01:56:58,800
I'm good.

1424
01:56:58,980 --> 01:57:00,160
OK, thank you.

1425
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:01,380
Thank you.

1426
01:57:01,380 --> 01:57:01,440
Thank you.

1427
01:57:01,660 --> 01:57:02,140
Have a good night.

1428
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:16,200
I'm going to turn, I'm going to turn this over to back to that into Deputy Mayor for the food truck discussions, and I'm going to turn.

1429
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:16,680
Okay.

1430
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:17,860
Thank you, Mayor.

1431
01:57:19,300 --> 01:57:19,780
Okay.

1432
01:57:20,540 --> 01:57:29,380
And now we have Jonathan Zamora to talk to us about the proposed and the ongoing discussions around

1433
01:57:29,380 --> 01:57:32,000
we're by no means at the end of this,

1434
01:57:32,220 --> 01:57:34,480
this is just to keep you inside the loop

1435
01:57:34,980 --> 01:57:39,540
about a proposed food truck policy, Jonathan.

1436
01:57:58,840 --> 01:57:59,500
Good evening, council.

1437
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:00,380
Good evening.

1438
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:01,940
Good evening.

1439
01:58:01,980 --> 01:58:02,440
Good evening.

1440
01:58:02,940 --> 01:58:03,260
Thank you.

1441
01:58:03,420 --> 01:58:04,760
So we're coming to you again,

1442
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,780
resurfacing the food truck policy discussion

1443
01:58:07,780 --> 01:58:09,380
for this idea of peak skill.

1444
01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:12,940
When we introduced this idea a few weeks ago,

1445
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:17,760
we had some good dialogue about placement in city parks.

1446
01:58:17,780 --> 01:58:24,860
And those types of things, so what we did is we went back and revisited some of the ideas and points.

1447
01:58:25,420 --> 01:58:27,340
We met with the Parks Advisory Board.

1448
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:30,020
We met with the Conservation Advisory Council.

1449
01:58:30,420 --> 01:58:36,200
And we asked their input in terms of what their thoughts were of having food trucks in parks.

1450
01:58:36,940 --> 01:58:42,080
So what you have in front of you is what's called the balanced integration in peak skill parks.

1451
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:51,180
And it's really more to make sure that the green spaces are kept as clean and pristine as possible.

1452
01:58:51,980 --> 01:58:56,800
We want to get feedback from residents about, you know, hey, we should do food truck festivals.

1453
01:58:57,060 --> 01:59:01,160
We should have food trucks and parks, but we realize that they're all also a waste.

1454
01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,020
This is for people to attend.

1455
01:59:03,860 --> 01:59:06,400
So we want to, where it's a very delicate balancing act.

1456
01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:21,220
So some of the ideas here is to designate ecosystems in parks where we have pre-identify paved or other non-intrusive areas where there's no vending near quiet or ecologically sensitive areas.

1457
01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:28,260
We can create or offer incentives for electric and low impact vehicles.

1458
01:59:29,120 --> 01:59:32,940
Right now, the common practice and probably for the short term foreseeable future.

1459
01:59:32,940 --> 01:59:41,500
Most of the food trucks will have generators. Obviously we're not going to allow out idleing and those kind of things and we're looking at a

1460
01:59:41,500 --> 01:59:45,060
At the holistic approach to food trucks in general, so

1461
01:59:45,910 --> 01:59:47,780
Having event based vending only

1462
01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:51,940
Periodic presence in the parks may be possibly just on weekends

1463
01:59:51,940 --> 01:59:55,660
Were there allowed during city permitted events

1464
01:59:55,660 --> 01:59:59,060
As providing aesthetic and design controls

1465
01:59:59,060 --> 02:00:00,000
or we encounter.

1466
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:14,500
Thirds, the use of muted tones and minimal signage, a lack of maybe flashing lights, really to more sort of blend in with the natural surroundings as to as opposed to sort of popping out and sort of being a little bit in your face.

1467
02:00:15,700 --> 02:00:26,600
Looking at mobile food gardens or green trucks, encouraging vendors to offer a better for you, local or plant-based food options on their menus, obviously having them provide their own trash receptacles,

1468
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:30,400
and those kinds of things as well.

1469
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:33,320
Obviously having strict waste and maintenance protocols,

1470
02:00:34,140 --> 02:00:37,080
having recyclable bins available for the vendors,

1471
02:00:37,740 --> 02:00:42,160
and possibly even having the food truck vendors pay a refundable cleaning deposit

1472
02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:43,420
at the time of their application.

1473
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:45,820
We want them to have a little bit of skin in the game

1474
02:00:45,820 --> 02:00:48,620
in terms of maintaining our green spaces,

1475
02:00:49,220 --> 02:00:50,600
and those sorts of things.

1476
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:54,680
Obviously time windows and sound limits would apply.

1477
02:00:55,420 --> 02:00:59,260
You know, people go into the parks, they'll go fishing, they'll go play pickleball, they're

1478
02:00:59,260 --> 02:01:04,160
going to go walk around the track, they don't exactly want to hear loud music and

1479
02:01:04,160 --> 02:01:06,340
sirens and things like that.

1480
02:01:06,920 --> 02:01:13,480
Also getting quarterly reviews or feedback from residents on how the process is going in

1481
02:01:13,480 --> 02:01:14,260
the parks.

1482
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:19,680
You know, it's important to include as many people as possible in the decision-making process,

1483
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:27,000
especially when it sort of presents itself in a city-wide application like this does, and then

1484
02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:34,580
also possibly including the gift back to the park requirement or component where the vendors

1485
02:01:34,580 --> 02:01:40,700
contribute in in-kind service, maybe offered to a tree planter, a bench donation, something to

1486
02:01:40,700 --> 02:01:47,600
also beautify a park and really signal collaboration versus a vendor takeover. And then

1487
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:52,660
kind of look at this trial program and just see what the reactions are, see what the results

1488
02:01:52,660 --> 02:01:58,060
are over a one to two year period. Just to kind of really be transparent about the process

1489
02:01:58,060 --> 02:02:04,080
to work together with the community in a way that helps, you know, enhance what the city has to

1490
02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:10,920
offer. So this is kind of the version 2.0. Again, we talked about fruit truck zones in various

1491
02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:16,380
spots of the area and we feel that the park component particularly needed some more attention

1492
02:02:16,380 --> 02:02:18,800
And so that's what we brought to you today.

1493
02:02:20,360 --> 02:02:21,960
First of all, this is great.

1494
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:30,160
I really like the extent which you delved into this whole issue.

1495
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:33,660
You covered a lot of bases and a few that I wouldn't have thought of.

1496
02:02:33,820 --> 02:02:34,380
So that's good.

1497
02:02:35,660 --> 02:02:36,820
You're giving back to the park.

1498
02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:39,220
I'm assuming that and I like that idea.

1499
02:02:39,700 --> 02:02:41,660
But I'm assuming it's not in every week kind of thing.

1500
02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:42,900
It's a one season.

1501
02:02:42,900 --> 02:02:55,880
Right, it would be according to the permit, and that would be pre-established, so there's going to be more, you know, conversation between RRs of the city, between the legal department, between the vendors and in general, and to see what works for everyone.

1502
02:02:56,020 --> 02:03:01,420
Is there a season that fees will be allowed through the winter?

1503
02:03:02,580 --> 02:03:12,820
So typically we have one, I believe, food vendor at the moment, or mobile vendor, who has a permit from I think middle of February to the end of this year.

1504
02:03:12,900 --> 02:03:18,500
And that one location is actually on the corner of Leigh Bore Park, and he's set to

1505
02:03:18,500 --> 02:03:19,680
bend ice cream.

1506
02:03:20,140 --> 02:03:24,940
I haven't seen him yet, it's obviously raining this time of year, but we can talk

1507
02:03:24,940 --> 02:03:27,100
about what that season looks like.

1508
02:03:29,020 --> 02:03:29,540
Councillor.

1509
02:03:29,980 --> 02:03:30,500
Councillor.

1510
02:03:35,340 --> 02:03:35,860
Councillor.

1511
02:03:35,860 --> 02:03:35,920
Councillor.

1512
02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:36,620
Councillor.

1513
02:03:38,900 --> 02:03:39,140
Councillor.

1514
02:03:42,100 --> 02:03:42,140
Councillor.

1515
02:03:42,140 --> 02:03:42,340
Councillor.

1516
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:50,000
in this new order in that regulation or whatever we're going to call with a system one that

1517
02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:57,040
we haven't through the city clear. It would be from the entire city would be only

1518
02:03:57,040 --> 02:04:02,840
for part or it would be. This is only for part. This is just in city parts, this firm.

1519
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:08,340
This particular component is addressing city parts, but we did previously discussed food

1520
02:04:08,340 --> 02:04:14,180
trucks zones where they, we can have food trucks to have the available to then where they're

1521
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:19,280
not indirect competition with the brick and mortar locations or restaurants where there

1522
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:25,260
are small pockets throughout the city. We don't have a very large area, you know, to work

1523
02:04:25,260 --> 02:04:28,180
with so we want to try to strike a compelling balance.

1524
02:04:29,480 --> 02:04:36,620
Yeah, this is on the parks. Yeah, but I have a few ones and I just want to mention it like you

1525
02:04:36,620 --> 02:04:40,480
say, that one, the leap of art, it's going to be in that area,

1526
02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:41,660
it's going to be in the street.

1527
02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:45,220
So it's not going to be inside the park.

1528
02:04:46,100 --> 02:04:49,200
So I just want to put in the mind,

1529
02:04:49,740 --> 02:04:57,220
like it could be a, you know, like a provide maybe when we move

1530
02:04:57,220 --> 02:05:01,180
forward this more information to the people who's going to be

1531
02:05:01,180 --> 02:05:08,220
quite a that thing because how they can be have the entire information like a

1532
02:05:08,220 --> 02:05:11,500
like a contenting with the clear and connected with this one like you mean

1533
02:05:11,500 --> 02:05:14,860
the food truck operation. When they went that part because I remember there was

1534
02:05:14,860 --> 02:05:20,760
a spirit for one of the ice cream I mentioned that like yes and one year they

1535
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:24,720
say oh you're no load to go to the park but in the previous year he was a lot so

1536
02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:30,220
and something like it how that thing maybe could be and another kind of is an

1537
02:05:30,220 --> 02:05:36,820
the ice cream to make the how they were. The vendor that has a permanent leapore has a push

1538
02:05:36,820 --> 02:05:42,240
card. It's not an actual food truck, you know, a motorized food truck. And the other thing

1539
02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:54,940
is about, you say, like, for, by pair me, I know the, then, and Fleeceman appear. It was the area

1540
02:05:54,940 --> 02:06:01,780
sign for that. I mean, the intention for this is to have a one seasonal, like a

1541
02:06:01,780 --> 02:06:08,940
consumer woman, Talbot mentioned in diarrhea, or it's going to be, we like, we'd like to

1542
02:06:08,940 --> 02:06:14,120
have a rotation of fenders because that one particular spot, especially with the

1543
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:20,160
boats coming in, is quite, it can be quite lucrative for one particular vendor, so we

1544
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:24,740
can even implement like a lot of a system or something to that effect, where it's more equitable

1545
02:06:24,740 --> 02:06:28,880
and transparent with the vendors we allow in those areas.

1546
02:06:29,380 --> 02:06:35,260
And I guess that would be probably best if whichever vendors are down there, or for a

1547
02:06:35,260 --> 02:06:39,620
little variety of food, one's not a nice screen truck or something like that.

1548
02:06:39,640 --> 02:06:42,080
Right exactly, complementary.

1549
02:06:42,860 --> 02:06:44,920
I have nothing at all against ice cream.

1550
02:06:45,460 --> 02:06:53,900
Okay, and the last one is about the humans and at some point in the events, I mean, just

1551
02:06:53,900 --> 02:06:58,600
to put in, and I think I would talk about before that.

1552
02:06:58,700 --> 02:07:00,620
Like, mostly like a riverfront for the festival,

1553
02:07:01,020 --> 02:07:04,180
like you make sure that if we put in somebody,

1554
02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:08,560
that could be a conflict in that area.

1555
02:07:09,720 --> 02:07:11,400
Like, it's somebody apply for an event,

1556
02:07:12,220 --> 02:07:15,120
and somebody has already a pair of me

1557
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:17,700
for having to throw over there because, you know,

1558
02:07:17,700 --> 02:07:23,060
like, people they need to raise money for pay the fee,

1559
02:07:23,060 --> 02:07:30,240
Right, so really at the riverfront in particular, there are no permits allowed for food trucks,

1560
02:07:30,820 --> 02:07:35,780
Metro North will not allow it, special events are a completely separate condition.

1561
02:07:36,440 --> 02:07:42,060
So obviously we want to be sensitive to the brick and mortar stores that are located just on the other side of the railroad tracks.

1562
02:07:42,140 --> 02:07:45,740
And we want to try to work together with everyone in a way that makes sense to you.

1563
02:07:46,040 --> 02:07:47,460
Okay, thank you, sure.

1564
02:07:47,940 --> 02:07:48,740
Anybody else?

1565
02:07:48,740 --> 02:07:52,040
And I think these are really lofty goals for ECO balance.

1566
02:07:52,380 --> 02:07:55,380
So thank you for that and great efforts so far.

1567
02:07:56,100 --> 02:07:57,400
I still think we're going to have some issues

1568
02:07:57,400 --> 02:07:59,540
with older vehicles that are gas driven,

1569
02:08:00,180 --> 02:08:04,080
that are gas customers, absolutely.

1570
02:08:04,620 --> 02:08:05,220
So we're aware of that.

1571
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:06,100
But great effort.

1572
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:10,140
And I like the incentive idea behind that as well.

1573
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:14,200
We're still going to roll out the other options

1574
02:08:14,200 --> 02:08:15,800
for food truck throughout the city.

1575
02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:17,280
We're still going to work on that.

1576
02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:17,720
Yes, we are.

1577
02:08:17,720 --> 02:08:20,920
potentially rolled out some of these suggestions with that as well.

1578
02:08:21,140 --> 02:08:23,820
Right, we're really, this is kind of part two.

1579
02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:26,240
There's the part one, which is the designated food zones.

1580
02:08:26,540 --> 02:08:28,220
We've had this complimentary for the park,

1581
02:08:28,440 --> 02:08:33,260
and we create one document or policy that would apply

1582
02:08:33,260 --> 02:08:34,620
to the broader city.

1583
02:08:35,020 --> 02:08:35,940
Right, thank you so much.

1584
02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:37,380
Anybody else?

1585
02:08:37,500 --> 02:08:40,280
Yeah, the zones are more interesting to me.

1586
02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:42,060
I think this is wonderful what you've got here.

1587
02:08:42,180 --> 02:08:46,000
But what really needs protection is the location

1588
02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:52,940
of the way from residential obviously, in parts of the park, there may be zones in the parks

1589
02:08:52,940 --> 02:08:59,160
where it would be okay to have a truck or it might be just on the street next to a park

1590
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:04,900
by Leapore where it could be okay to have a food truck there because there's not a heck

1591
02:09:04,900 --> 02:09:10,120
of a lot of residential right in that area, so actually figuring the zones out where they could

1592
02:09:10,120 --> 02:09:15,780
be and not bother people much seem to me and that could be in the parks as well as the streets

1593
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:21,120
But this is a very good piece of work that we set our goals forward.

1594
02:09:21,500 --> 02:09:22,680
Jonathan, one last question.

1595
02:09:23,060 --> 02:09:28,080
Regarding the permit fees, are we still offering an annual permit?

1596
02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:31,740
Are these going to be per event or per episode?

1597
02:09:32,160 --> 02:09:34,940
So I think we're going to have a different, very structure.

1598
02:09:35,700 --> 02:09:37,760
Maybe for the food truck zones we have seasonal.

1599
02:09:38,080 --> 02:09:42,220
We have multiple permits so there could be annual, like the vendor.

1600
02:09:42,220 --> 02:09:49,760
I've read outside of Leapore Park, for example, we could have a special event permit for events throughout the city.

1601
02:09:50,520 --> 02:09:57,920
And then also seasonal, what we want to have the food truck culture complement our current restaurant infrastructure.

1602
02:09:58,580 --> 02:10:04,000
You know, we don't want to overwhelm or directly compete but rather enhance what's already here.

1603
02:10:04,700 --> 02:10:06,960
Thank you. Just one more comment.

1604
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:14,180
And I will be back to the, to the, to the part me, on the Claire and the part.

1605
02:10:14,740 --> 02:10:20,560
I don't know, it would be, it would be nice, maybe, to consider to have a only one

1606
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:30,240
application for where all different, because that, that would be more like information for the people.

1607
02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:43,120
It's even like when they come into the clear and they apply for the neighborhood center for the senior centers of another place and they have to wait for the department who will run that building and apply.

1608
02:10:43,580 --> 02:10:49,580
I mean, the entire information would be nice to have one, one, two, four, and all the permits.

1609
02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:52,020
That's a great idea. No, I have a streamlined application.

1610
02:10:53,720 --> 02:10:55,560
Jonathan, thank you for this.

1611
02:10:55,660 --> 02:10:58,000
I just want to just want to wrap it up.

1612
02:10:58,000 --> 02:10:59,560
You want to wrap it up, right?

1613
02:10:59,660 --> 02:10:59,860
Go ahead.

1614
02:11:00,000 --> 02:11:00,820
Go ahead.

1615
02:11:00,980 --> 02:11:01,220
Go ahead.

1616
02:11:01,980 --> 02:11:05,740
I like the language about collaboration and enhancing

1617
02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:08,420
the current environment with the rest of the month.

1618
02:11:08,620 --> 02:11:11,460
So let's say, for example, it was talking about the ice cream.

1619
02:11:11,780 --> 02:11:14,740
I guess if anybody knows, I don't know what the ice cream person is, but you've got a key.

1620
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:20,880
So let's say if the ice cream shop opens up somewhere around there,

1621
02:11:21,160 --> 02:11:22,180
like how would that work?

1622
02:11:22,180 --> 02:11:28,380
like, would that shop have, say, over, you know, this cart being there down a block from

1623
02:11:28,380 --> 02:11:28,900
them?

1624
02:11:29,360 --> 02:11:34,060
So, so the nice thing about individuals or families opening up businesses in P-Skill is

1625
02:11:34,060 --> 02:11:35,200
there's a planning process.

1626
02:11:35,460 --> 02:11:41,120
So, when we get word of a potential new idea or new business, that kind of signals to our

1627
02:11:41,120 --> 02:11:44,860
department that, you know, we kind of take a look to see what's happening and what's in

1628
02:11:44,860 --> 02:11:53,120
local area, you know, and then that kind of depends on where the business is or depends on

1629
02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:59,280
the type of permit that is available. So, for example, if we wanted to have a permit on a central

1630
02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:04,040
avenue, you know, maybe we make that seasonal versus annual because it's kind of close to the

1631
02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:10,080
bit district. So, things like that, we again, this is part of the bigger conversation, so I appreciate

1632
02:12:10,080 --> 02:12:10,740
all the feedback.

1633
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:19,880
But specifically, specifically to a particular product, like you said, ice cream, would that

1634
02:12:19,880 --> 02:12:27,060
restaurant owner be able to say, I don't want this, it's like there are a number of feet.

1635
02:12:27,060 --> 02:12:31,620
I know when you were talking about the actual food truck, she was saying 500 feet away, I'm

1636
02:12:31,620 --> 02:12:32,600
not, right?

1637
02:12:32,720 --> 02:12:33,100
It was the same thing.

1638
02:12:33,100 --> 02:12:39,160
I think right now, the language is 200 feet away, I think the way I can look, I mean,

1639
02:12:39,160 --> 02:12:45,880
And I guess the question is, is the park one, are you talking about with respect to the park permits or any food truck permits?

1640
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:48,240
Yeah, pretty much any, you know.

1641
02:12:48,500 --> 02:12:54,040
I think there's a difference if there's a park permit, are you going to allow a food truck that provides a similar, you know,

1642
02:12:54,200 --> 02:12:57,440
you're sitting to provide a service to the park.

1643
02:12:57,800 --> 02:13:01,960
You know, that would be a different for an event, that's a different situation to some extent.

1644
02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:08,260
Yeah, not necessarily an event, but what's someone that just wants to, you know, have a permit to do something in the park?

1645
02:13:08,260 --> 02:13:14,000
sure. Like how would that work? So that's part of what we still have to look at in review.

1646
02:13:14,280 --> 02:13:18,460
But really, God give God a hard and fast answer. The more you dive into these things,

1647
02:13:18,620 --> 02:13:22,120
the more branches you discover. So we just want to try to cover as much as possible.

1648
02:13:22,220 --> 02:13:27,300
Because I would imagine just like when we've owned certain storefronts at a zone for certain businesses.

1649
02:13:27,460 --> 02:13:32,840
It's like okay, there's already something here. So these are the list of, well, maybe I'm

1650
02:13:32,840 --> 02:13:36,780
for this thing you can do, but the list of things you can't do, correct? You can't have this

1651
02:13:36,780 --> 02:13:38,740
because someone's already selling donuts right now.

1652
02:13:38,820 --> 02:13:39,400
Of course, I would have.

1653
02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:44,260
I've just got a quick thought to the planning process

1654
02:13:44,260 --> 02:13:45,840
when they're getting their permitting.

1655
02:13:46,180 --> 02:13:51,880
I'm assuming that there's something they have to be approved

1656
02:13:51,880 --> 02:13:53,160
by the report of health.

1657
02:13:54,180 --> 02:13:55,800
Yes, they have to have the certificates.

1658
02:13:56,240 --> 02:13:57,080
They have to have the certificates.

1659
02:13:58,060 --> 02:13:58,860
All the paperwork.

1660
02:13:59,640 --> 02:14:00,220
The reports.

1661
02:14:00,220 --> 02:14:01,800
In the report, there is a global vending.

1662
02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:02,200
Absolutely.

1663
02:14:02,840 --> 02:14:04,060
I'm going to see that air in the tire.

1664
02:14:04,500 --> 02:14:05,960
You know what they say about assuming?

1665
02:14:05,960 --> 02:14:20,640
I just don't know that you want to be a continued with the ice cream, I mean, the ice cream if you think about it, usually they don't want to stay in one point.

1666
02:14:21,400 --> 02:14:25,640
So, something like, how do you, like, they don't want to stay in one place permanent.

1667
02:14:26,260 --> 02:14:31,260
Like, both people and then probably go outside the park or I mean, just consider that thing.

1668
02:14:31,260 --> 02:14:37,280
I still think that would be something to have a permanent place for ice cream in the market.

1669
02:14:37,380 --> 02:14:39,480
There's different kind of...

1670
02:14:39,480 --> 02:14:42,660
There's different like licenses where the competitors license.

1671
02:14:43,900 --> 02:14:45,120
Do they have to move the cart?

1672
02:14:45,420 --> 02:14:46,500
I mean I don't know, I'm just asking.

1673
02:14:46,840 --> 02:14:51,700
Depending on the definition, it's either stationary or they can move from certain designated spots.

1674
02:14:52,220 --> 02:14:56,400
What's nice about having these conversations now is we can kind of define what that looks like.

1675
02:14:56,400 --> 02:14:56,520
Right.

1676
02:14:56,800 --> 02:14:58,480
You know, it's which is to our benefit.

1677
02:14:58,480 --> 02:14:59,980
There's actually something nice in there.

1678
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,220
I have an ice cream truck sort of stationary in the bark because I think that's a draw to the bark.

1679
02:15:05,920 --> 02:15:14,640
Sure. Absolutely. I'd like to first of all, thank you for this. This is really, I'd like the environmentally conscious strategy, I think it's wonderful.

1680
02:15:15,100 --> 02:15:20,760
I do have a question though about number two with the electric or low impact vehicles.

1681
02:15:20,760 --> 02:15:27,740
I know it says here phasin by 2027, I just want to make sure that that's realistic.

1682
02:15:27,940 --> 02:15:34,640
I know a lot of these trucks are gas powered with the generators like you were saying and stuff like that.

1683
02:15:35,020 --> 02:15:39,460
Are there a lot of electric food trucks just electric food trucks do you know of?

1684
02:15:39,740 --> 02:15:44,100
No, not many. This is really just more of a place marker.

1685
02:15:45,560 --> 02:15:48,180
We just want that thought to be known.

1686
02:15:48,180 --> 02:15:51,140
Okay, the details of is you're not concrete.

1687
02:15:51,640 --> 02:15:53,100
Okay, so they can start thinking of that.

1688
02:15:53,100 --> 02:15:55,260
They can start learning, you know, as you know,

1689
02:15:55,480 --> 02:15:58,220
you know, the city has a lot of vehicles just throughout many departments.

1690
02:15:59,340 --> 02:16:01,420
And recently we've been picturing electric vehicles,

1691
02:16:01,420 --> 02:16:05,400
kind of moving into this, you know, blended narrative

1692
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:08,180
of eco-consciousness.

1693
02:16:09,160 --> 02:16:10,400
So that's kind of what we're having.

1694
02:16:11,180 --> 02:16:13,620
But that year might be a movable year, then if we don't have

1695
02:16:13,620 --> 02:16:15,380
absolutely this is not fixated.

1696
02:16:16,080 --> 02:16:17,040
But that's what it's like.

1697
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:19,200
I really appreciate all this.

1698
02:16:19,420 --> 02:16:22,020
This is a lot of attention to detail here.

1699
02:16:22,020 --> 02:16:23,420
And I know it's a work in progress.

1700
02:16:24,020 --> 02:16:25,760
But that's how it starts in the conversation.

1701
02:16:26,320 --> 02:16:27,720
Tonight was a really good one.

1702
02:16:28,840 --> 02:16:29,480
That was good.

1703
02:16:29,760 --> 02:16:34,260
I mean, because when we were talking about that,

1704
02:16:34,260 --> 02:16:37,040
I don't know if you may be considered to have a like a

1705
02:16:37,720 --> 02:16:41,120
food trot stamp, like a parking in its path.

1706
02:16:41,300 --> 02:16:43,720
You know, like a, and they can be stopping over there

1707
02:16:43,720 --> 02:16:47,640
if you're tiny and go to like a, you know, go around and like a rotation.

1708
02:16:48,600 --> 02:16:48,680
Yes.

1709
02:16:48,680 --> 02:16:52,340
So you know, like a taxi stand, like a certain way to work out so many different

1710
02:16:52,340 --> 02:16:54,320
places and that would be something to me.

1711
02:16:54,420 --> 02:16:55,540
Oh, that's a great idea.

1712
02:16:55,600 --> 02:16:55,900
Absolutely.

1713
02:16:56,240 --> 02:16:58,760
They had to, uh, we're going to do that right now.

1714
02:16:58,880 --> 02:17:01,220
No, no, no, I just want to give it a, yeah, because we have a

1715
02:17:01,220 --> 02:17:02,100
conversation now.

1716
02:17:02,240 --> 02:17:02,380
Okay.

1717
02:17:02,620 --> 02:17:03,040
Anybody else?

1718
02:17:03,100 --> 02:17:03,540
Thank you.

1719
02:17:03,880 --> 02:17:04,140
Okay.

1720
02:17:04,920 --> 02:17:06,520
Jonathan, thank you for your work on this.

1721
02:17:06,660 --> 02:17:09,280
I appreciate it was a great discussion and looking forward to

1722
02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:10,040
even further.

1723
02:17:10,520 --> 02:17:10,660
Thank you.

1724
02:17:10,740 --> 02:17:11,680
Thank you so much.

1725
02:17:11,860 --> 02:17:12,240
Of course.

1726
02:17:12,240 --> 02:17:13,140
Oh, my goodness.

1727
02:17:14,440 --> 02:17:14,900
All right.

1728
02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:16,220
I'll just put it in the mirror.

1729
02:17:16,240 --> 02:17:17,640
Wait a minute, like the mayor's acting.

1730
02:17:17,820 --> 02:17:18,280
Oh, right.

1731
02:17:18,560 --> 02:17:19,100
Thank you.

1732
02:17:19,540 --> 02:17:20,280
Thank you.

1733
02:17:20,860 --> 02:17:22,700
OK, we're going to go on to the next one, Jonathan.

1734
02:17:22,720 --> 02:17:24,020
You're on the next one here.

1735
02:17:24,540 --> 02:17:25,980
You want to, shall we call?

1736
02:17:26,020 --> 02:17:26,620
Yeah, the next.

1737
02:17:26,640 --> 02:17:27,940
She's going to text me.

1738
02:17:28,300 --> 02:17:29,960
Matt, are we right out to the next one?

1739
02:17:30,100 --> 02:17:30,540
Yes.

1740
02:17:34,910 --> 02:17:35,910
So get the mayor.

1741
02:17:36,170 --> 02:17:37,750
Number five.

1742
02:17:39,450 --> 02:17:41,850
Jonathan, you're going to update us on all programs?

1743
02:17:42,410 --> 02:17:42,850
Yes.

1744
02:17:43,370 --> 02:17:45,990
I went for the mayor to return.

1745
02:17:46,310 --> 02:17:46,430
Yep.

1746
02:17:46,690 --> 02:17:48,230
So he's waiting for the mayor.

1747
02:17:49,750 --> 02:17:49,970
Mm-hmm.

1748
02:17:49,970 --> 02:17:51,710
Actually, just anything that's new, right?

1749
02:17:51,850 --> 02:17:53,970
I mean, everything I'm looking at so far in the first page

1750
02:17:53,970 --> 02:17:56,090
is stuff that we're doing already, right?

1751
02:17:57,530 --> 02:17:57,930
Mm-hmm.

1752
02:17:58,150 --> 02:17:59,850
So there's...

1753
02:18:00,370 --> 02:18:01,270
Beekable is new.

1754
02:18:01,470 --> 02:18:01,770
Yes.

1755
02:18:01,890 --> 02:18:05,010
So what's on this list here is a lot of what we offer

1756
02:18:05,010 --> 02:18:05,990
from spring and summer,

1757
02:18:06,190 --> 02:18:07,910
but I have a quick PowerPoint presentation

1758
02:18:07,910 --> 02:18:09,850
that's going to highlight some particulars.

1759
02:18:09,850 --> 02:18:12,070
I'm going to bring that up.

1760
02:18:12,690 --> 02:18:13,910
Go ahead and bring that up, come on.

1761
02:18:14,390 --> 02:18:16,170
Fishing at questions here.

1762
02:18:16,730 --> 02:18:17,470
I love that.

1763
02:18:17,690 --> 02:18:18,850
Well, you've got a lot of reviews here.

1764
02:18:22,540 --> 02:18:23,140
Check out.

1765
02:18:23,520 --> 02:18:25,200
Fishing at questions, Pierre.

1766
02:18:25,400 --> 02:18:27,700
Hey, Pierre, well, maybe there's someone Pierre

1767
02:18:27,700 --> 02:18:29,220
who is fishing at questions, Pierre.

1768
02:18:36,770 --> 02:18:37,630
That's what it is called.

1769
02:18:40,230 --> 02:18:41,370
That's what it is called.

1770
02:18:41,370 --> 02:18:42,590
That's what it is called.

1771
02:18:42,770 --> 02:18:43,270
That's what it is called.

1772
02:18:43,270 --> 02:18:43,850
You get it?

1773
02:18:45,410 --> 02:18:47,490
So before I begin this presentation,

1774
02:18:47,490 --> 02:18:56,330
I just want to call your attention to a flyer that we handed out on Juneteenth Freedom Day, this year, June 21.

1775
02:18:57,070 --> 02:19:00,730
It's the save the day that was just brought to my attention.

1776
02:19:01,290 --> 02:19:06,690
And when we're making it's way through social media as soon as possible, and in a regular basis,

1777
02:19:07,150 --> 02:19:12,550
but we are planning to have a very robust and engaging parade and festival with entertainment,

1778
02:19:13,050 --> 02:19:16,870
food vendors, craft vendors on Saturday, June 21st.

1779
02:19:16,910 --> 02:19:19,830
Much of more information is to come, but the saved the day has arrived.

1780
02:19:19,850 --> 02:19:20,910
Thank you.

1781
02:19:22,430 --> 02:19:23,070
Let's save the day.

1782
02:19:27,750 --> 02:19:30,510
So you have the listing in front of you on the memo of some

1783
02:19:30,510 --> 02:19:34,470
spring and summer programs that we do on a regular basis with a

1784
02:19:34,470 --> 02:19:36,090
couple of new items.

1785
02:19:36,470 --> 02:19:39,090
So, for example, pickleball in particular,

1786
02:19:40,250 --> 02:19:43,830
adjustments and pivots in summer camp, and the hub newsletter.

1787
02:19:46,190 --> 02:19:48,290
So, to Pew Park pickleball, our courts are open.

1788
02:19:48,290 --> 02:19:53,290
They're open as of April 2nd, a bit of rainy weather, but that's okay.

1789
02:19:54,090 --> 02:20:00,670
So we have a couple of handouts here, one pageers that kind of describes Pickleball, how to play,

1790
02:20:01,390 --> 02:20:06,530
how to engage and how to contact the Parks Office to obtain a permit.

1791
02:20:08,330 --> 02:20:18,050
So the schedule, we wanted to make it, we saw, we had a lot of feedback from residents in a small

1792
02:20:18,050 --> 02:20:23,330
some previous thoughts about how Pickable was going to run and operate and it seemed to prevent

1793
02:20:23,330 --> 02:20:29,570
present more hurdles than less user-friendly than it should be. So we had some internal discussions.

1794
02:20:29,930 --> 02:20:37,770
We met with some individual residents and folks and we feel like this is a very equitable and transparent

1795
02:20:37,770 --> 02:20:43,510
way to go about Pickable in general. So the schedule is open seven days a week whether permitting

1796
02:20:43,510 --> 02:20:53,890
from April 2nd to October 16th, so that is just about 28 weeks of usage, or just shy of 200 days for the pickables these.

1797
02:20:54,390 --> 02:21:02,090
And now whether permitting that October 16th could extend into November, depending on the weather year, so there may be even additional usage.

1798
02:21:02,870 --> 02:21:11,090
We broke the, we have four courts. We broke the schedule down into three distinct parts, so from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m.

1799
02:21:11,090 --> 02:21:14,890
two courts are over, considered for open play.

1800
02:21:15,330 --> 02:21:18,070
What that means is that anyone can walk up and play

1801
02:21:18,070 --> 02:21:20,670
pickleball at their leisure with their friends.

1802
02:21:21,030 --> 02:21:23,110
Two courts will be available by reservation.

1803
02:21:24,430 --> 02:21:27,490
If individuals have a standing session,

1804
02:21:27,630 --> 02:21:28,930
okay, I want to play at 10 o'clock.

1805
02:21:29,130 --> 02:21:31,290
They can go on to our community pass portal.

1806
02:21:31,750 --> 02:21:35,790
Reserve the one hour timeslot to play at a particular time

1807
02:21:35,790 --> 02:21:38,570
or they can walk up and play open play.

1808
02:21:38,570 --> 02:21:45,630
The majority of feedback that we had said residents like to play in the morning or after work when

1809
02:21:45,630 --> 02:21:46,330
they come home.

1810
02:21:46,550 --> 02:21:49,990
So we wanted to kind of split it down the middle of 50, 50.

1811
02:21:50,610 --> 02:21:57,730
From 1 PM to 4 PM, all four courts were available by reservation, which means you can make

1812
02:21:57,730 --> 02:22:03,170
your reservation on community pass up a week in advance, and you can reserve your 60 minute

1813
02:22:03,170 --> 02:22:12,710
time slot, and I'd go walk up and play and play as you like, okay? From 4pm to 7pm all four

1814
02:22:12,710 --> 02:22:17,850
courts are available for open play, which means no reservation is required. People can walk

1815
02:22:17,850 --> 02:22:24,170
up after a work or after a long day and play on the court set at their leisure. So we wanted

1816
02:22:24,170 --> 02:22:30,030
to kind of remove the perceived barriers or hurdles for people to play pickleball, but being

1817
02:22:30,030 --> 02:22:37,150
to the fact that we realize that there's neighboring communities that have, you know,

1818
02:22:37,190 --> 02:22:42,110
pickleball courts as well and we are going to see an influx of non-residents coming

1819
02:22:42,110 --> 02:22:46,670
to the parks to play in the game. You know, we only have four courts we want to make sure

1820
02:22:46,670 --> 02:22:49,810
that peak score residents are able to play at their leisure.

1821
02:22:50,550 --> 02:22:53,370
So, can you just go over open play? Is that free?

1822
02:22:53,570 --> 02:22:58,410
So, open play is not considered free. The permit will need to be purchased.

1823
02:22:58,410 --> 02:23:04,910
So, what that means is that people residents and non-residents can go to the Depue Park's

1824
02:23:04,910 --> 02:23:08,650
office and purchase a pass for the season or year.

1825
02:23:09,550 --> 02:23:12,070
We have the fee structure right here on this slide.

1826
02:23:12,430 --> 02:23:16,990
So for residents 18 to 59, the fee is $40 for the entire season.

1827
02:23:17,990 --> 02:23:26,790
senior's 60 and older, $30, juniors, eight years old to 17, 35, a family of four at

1828
02:23:26,790 --> 02:23:34,330
the same residence, $90, and a day pass, $3. So one thing we'd like to consider

1829
02:23:34,330 --> 02:23:39,390
also is that there was a talk about having guests join you while you're playing, if you

1830
02:23:39,390 --> 02:23:46,970
are a permit holder, you can have a three guests join you to play an actual game of

1831
02:23:46,970 --> 02:23:51,590
You know, playing doubles, which is a little challenging, but it's typically played with four people.

1832
02:23:52,290 --> 02:23:57,390
So that goes for residents and residents alike. You're allowed to have three guests with you as well.

1833
02:23:57,670 --> 02:24:00,350
That's great. Is this going to be posted on the Pickleball courts?

1834
02:24:00,970 --> 02:24:03,690
So this will be posted on the courts. This will also, um,

1835
02:24:03,850 --> 02:24:07,910
every of the time slots and the fees will be on our community pass as well.

1836
02:24:08,230 --> 02:24:09,950
And people can come into the office.

1837
02:24:10,150 --> 02:24:13,850
We require that just like we do with the pool, just so we can prove residency.

1838
02:24:13,850 --> 02:24:19,090
So it's not exactly, you can, you know, make the purchase online yet to come in and provide your information.

1839
02:24:19,930 --> 02:24:21,770
I have a, I have a quick question.

1840
02:24:22,510 --> 02:24:27,030
The reservation, is somebody, since this is sort of no, very no.

1841
02:24:28,230 --> 02:24:35,030
Are we watching it to see if it's, I mean, I'm thinking the middle of the day is probably when people wouldn't want to play,

1842
02:24:36,310 --> 02:24:41,170
you know, let alone make reservations if it's 95 degrees out or something.

1843
02:24:41,170 --> 02:24:47,250
So, you know, it is very new, we want to see what the demand is, we want to see where the

1844
02:24:47,250 --> 02:24:48,110
bottlenecks are.

1845
02:24:48,450 --> 02:24:53,050
If we go at 10 o'clock in the morning and we see 60 people waiting to play, pick a bowl with

1846
02:24:53,050 --> 02:24:56,930
that tells us one thing, you know, and then we have to see how the season plays out.

1847
02:24:56,990 --> 02:25:00,790
We've had people come in and purchase their passes and they say, listen, I just want to play.

1848
02:25:01,210 --> 02:25:04,430
You know, I'll make a reservation or I'll do open play, but I just want to play.

1849
02:25:05,050 --> 02:25:10,210
So we want to remove the barrier to that, but also give people a resource if they say,

1850
02:25:10,210 --> 02:25:14,830
listen my friends are coming from from or visiting me let's go play pickleball in the

1851
02:25:14,830 --> 02:25:22,770
pew let me make that quick reservation and off like a good what about if somebody

1852
02:25:22,770 --> 02:25:27,230
doesn't want to like in a seesome permit just to play one day or something like that

1853
02:25:27,230 --> 02:25:34,170
for BC tourism something that that would be possible like a pool sure sure

1854
02:25:34,170 --> 02:25:40,230
the idea and just renew the idea for $15 we have a day pass for $3 actually for

1855
02:25:40,230 --> 02:25:45,670
residents it's three dollars for non-residents it's five. Okay, another question is about

1856
02:25:48,290 --> 02:25:55,470
most of the youth you mentioned about the from eight years old and about low-income

1857
02:25:55,470 --> 02:26:02,910
they're nothing like if people have some kind of waivers until they die for a wife mostly for youth.

1858
02:26:03,690 --> 02:26:07,770
Well you know it is we had that something we have to look at and see what the demand is but

1859
02:26:08,910 --> 02:26:11,750
$35 for almost 200 days of a full season.

1860
02:26:12,130 --> 02:26:15,690
There are local, area facilities not far from here.

1861
02:26:15,930 --> 02:26:20,710
That are charging $70 a month upwards to play indoor or elsewhere.

1862
02:26:21,410 --> 02:26:23,650
So we just want to try to make it as equitable as possible.

1863
02:26:23,910 --> 02:26:28,670
The goal, not really is to make money, but to really be able to maintain the pickleball

1864
02:26:28,670 --> 02:26:29,070
courts.

1865
02:26:29,550 --> 02:26:33,150
So as people play on them and there's a where and there's,

1866
02:26:33,150 --> 02:26:34,590
you know, nets that need to be replaced.

1867
02:26:35,450 --> 02:26:42,390
Unfortunately, we have experienced some vandalism already, so we just need to make sure that

1868
02:26:43,010 --> 02:26:43,450
right.

1869
02:26:43,670 --> 02:26:53,030
So we have a sort of a mat facing Hudson Avenue and they're fixed by plastic rings or

1870
02:26:53,030 --> 02:26:53,910
metal rings.

1871
02:26:54,110 --> 02:26:58,330
Those have been broken, the mat has fallen down, it kind of acts as a sound barrier.

1872
02:26:59,410 --> 02:27:02,990
So we just, you know, we don't know why people do what they do, we just want to make sure

1873
02:27:02,990 --> 02:27:07,870
protect what we have and maintain what we have or we're not in the business of being a private firm.

1874
02:27:09,490 --> 02:27:17,550
The $35 is by a person, they're like a full group of family, so the family of four would be $90.

1875
02:27:18,570 --> 02:27:23,910
$90. And how many do you do in the four people? Four people. There'd be an incremental charge.

1876
02:27:24,130 --> 02:27:27,930
It's just like we do with the pool. If there's like a fifth or six person, right?

1877
02:27:29,600 --> 02:27:32,120
Sure. Thank you. Okay.

1878
02:27:35,960 --> 02:27:39,920
Let's talk about summer campus. It's rainy April, but certainly it's coming up.

1879
02:27:40,880 --> 02:27:46,600
Hold on, please. You're going to jump for the other, we're going to talk about the program for the sports or something.

1880
02:27:47,680 --> 02:27:54,960
Well, the list here is just what we provide, but I have the presentation to highlight a few of the programs. If you have questions, we can certainly.

1881
02:27:54,960 --> 02:28:05,640
Yeah, it was our question about the soccer over here.

1882
02:28:06,260 --> 02:28:08,040
I don't know if I jump up.

1883
02:28:08,160 --> 02:28:09,140
Can we let him finish?

1884
02:28:09,900 --> 02:28:10,760
Ask questions.

1885
02:28:11,780 --> 02:28:14,120
We let him finish his presentation and then ask questions.

1886
02:28:15,720 --> 02:28:16,940
Because the least.

1887
02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:19,200
For this one.

1888
02:28:19,660 --> 02:28:19,880
Okay.

1889
02:28:20,060 --> 02:28:21,820
So what particular is your question?

1890
02:28:22,080 --> 02:28:22,720
What sport?

1891
02:28:24,500 --> 02:28:29,300
So we're working right now with the school district, we have the field where monitoring

1892
02:28:29,300 --> 02:28:37,940
when we're going to open that, we need the grass to knit successfully, and the school

1893
02:28:37,940 --> 02:28:41,540
definitely wants to use it, so we're going to have a meeting coming up, we don't have

1894
02:28:41,540 --> 02:28:42,680
that exactly yet.

1895
02:28:43,020 --> 02:28:52,700
I don't, we don't have an open date as to when that field will be available, but when we

1896
02:28:52,700 --> 02:28:58,880
be coming up. Okay, I just do that because I know that's okay was one of the most popular

1897
02:28:59,500 --> 02:29:01,400
and the recreation of the show.

1898
02:29:05,770 --> 02:29:09,490
Okay, so in terms of summer camp, we are collaborating with the

1899
02:29:10,190 --> 02:29:16,230
YWCA who is bringing camp, fun kissed, and the freedom school to the city of P.Skill. So what we're

1900
02:29:16,230 --> 02:29:21,710
going to, what we're doing actually is next Monday night on April 14th at 6 p.m. We're actually

1901
02:29:21,710 --> 02:29:28,830
having a Zoom call, a Zoom meeting where staff from the YWCA from the Youth Bureau and Parks

1902
02:29:28,830 --> 02:29:32,970
and Recreation will have sort of an infosession for parents or residents who have questions

1903
02:29:32,970 --> 02:29:38,230
about what to expect with camp and the kind of look at all the offerings that PICSkill has.

1904
02:29:38,950 --> 02:29:45,450
So this kind of re-emphasizes the introduction into the community and the flyers of registration

1905
02:29:45,450 --> 02:29:53,070
information for Camp FunKist has already been going out and distributed. Right now the YWCA is

1906
02:29:53,070 --> 02:29:59,770
looking to hire Camp Counselors from many Previous Camp Counselors that used to work in the

1907
02:29:59,770 --> 02:29:59,990
Thanks for watching, and I'll see you in the next video, and I'll see you in the next video.

1908
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:29,980
I have the information here in terms of ages, children turning four by December 31 to those entering six grade. There will be two three-week sessions this year. The activities were expanding anywhere from sports and swimming, art, STEM, musical theater, themed week, specials, and more. There is the fee as $460 per three-week session with a $100 deposit required and payment plans are available.

1909
02:30:30,000 --> 02:30:35,740
So, when speaking with staff from the White WC, there are registrations, people are interested.

1910
02:30:36,500 --> 02:30:38,200
It's nice to see that the word is getting out.

1911
02:30:38,280 --> 02:30:43,660
We just have to be more diligent as this is the time of year where parents and kids start to think about summer camp.

1912
02:30:44,860 --> 02:30:46,660
When is the call next week? You said?

1913
02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:49,020
April 14th at 6 p.m.

1914
02:30:49,520 --> 02:30:55,340
So, if the QR code that's on that flyer, that logs you right into the meeting.

1915
02:30:57,200 --> 02:30:58,820
We're going to find a flyer.

1916
02:30:58,820 --> 02:31:03,420
So I just got that, but that won't be making us rounds on social media in

1917
02:31:06,360 --> 02:31:08,640
terms of our city camps.

1918
02:31:08,860 --> 02:31:10,240
We have three different versions.

1919
02:31:10,980 --> 02:31:17,280
We have a teen escape camp or teen travel camp, which is back to five days a week this year, Monday through Friday.

1920
02:31:18,220 --> 02:31:20,740
Again, two separate three weeks sessions.

1921
02:31:21,700 --> 02:31:28,160
Activities include trips to six flags, to splash down, to top golf, late compounds, A1F, Latix and more.

1922
02:31:28,160 --> 02:31:34,180
$600 per week session and then includes transportation and it was even speaking with

1923
02:31:34,180 --> 02:31:39,540
these school districts about providing lunch if that's an availability so that's

1924
02:31:39,540 --> 02:31:41,240
something to work on.

1925
02:31:42,020 --> 02:31:46,720
The middle of the fire is the Youth Bureau's rising stars summer program and that is

1926
02:31:46,720 --> 02:31:53,540
specifically for children ages 10 to 13. Six weeks, beginning June 30th and ending August

1927
02:31:53,540 --> 02:31:59,720
eighth, nine thirty a.m. to two p.m. We do have a new offering this year. We receive grants

1928
02:31:59,720 --> 02:32:06,120
if you recall for a sports youth sports and education grant. So we're including basketball,

1929
02:32:06,280 --> 02:32:12,320
soccer and swimming as part of the rising stars campus year. And those funds will be used to offset

1930
02:32:12,320 --> 02:32:17,780
the cost of the instructors and materials that are needed. So there is no cost for that offering.

1931
02:32:17,780 --> 02:32:19,760
So that campus free. That campus free.

1932
02:32:20,240 --> 02:32:21,360
Great. Yeah.

1933
02:32:22,120 --> 02:32:26,340
The two we were working on on our 2025 creative arts program.

1934
02:32:26,960 --> 02:32:28,460
And that has a refresh curriculum.

1935
02:32:29,340 --> 02:32:31,880
So that's for grades first through seventh.

1936
02:32:32,480 --> 02:32:34,940
Activities include music genre themes,

1937
02:32:35,560 --> 02:32:37,100
Disney and Pixar film animation.

1938
02:32:37,720 --> 02:32:39,780
What art made look like in 2050.

1939
02:32:40,520 --> 02:32:44,160
Songwriting, dance workshops, creative story telling and more.

1940
02:32:44,160 --> 02:32:47,460
the fee is $460, not $46.

1941
02:32:47,860 --> 02:32:48,860
I don't think that's good.

1942
02:32:48,860 --> 02:32:49,580
You need to get the fee.

1943
02:32:49,660 --> 02:32:50,620
Just making sure.

1944
02:32:50,820 --> 02:32:51,340
Go away, yes.

1945
02:32:51,420 --> 02:32:52,720
I'm thinking about it.

1946
02:32:53,000 --> 02:32:53,920
No, no, no, no, no.

1947
02:32:53,940 --> 02:32:54,380
No, no, no.

1948
02:32:54,380 --> 02:32:55,020
You make her right there.

1949
02:32:55,460 --> 02:32:57,980
The, the, the, the, the, the lead button.

1950
02:32:57,980 --> 02:32:59,780
You just didn't work on that one.

1951
02:32:59,780 --> 02:33:02,160
So that is $460 for a for residence.

1952
02:33:02,880 --> 02:33:05,420
I actually was thinking are you bringing in directors?

1953
02:33:06,900 --> 02:33:07,040
I'm thinking.

1954
02:33:09,180 --> 02:33:09,640
Absolutely.

1955
02:33:10,060 --> 02:33:11,580
The cast of Phantom of the Opera.

1956
02:33:12,500 --> 02:33:12,580
Yeah.

1957
02:33:12,580 --> 02:33:14,740
And then lastly, some of you have already subscribed.

1958
02:33:14,860 --> 02:33:16,000
Thank you very much.

1959
02:33:16,580 --> 02:33:19,140
We rolled out our hub newsletter just before the Chamber

1960
02:33:19,140 --> 02:33:21,200
Breakfast earlier last month.

1961
02:33:21,540 --> 02:33:23,800
This is published the last Friday of each month

1962
02:33:23,800 --> 02:33:27,980
and is very sort of tailored to include highlight events,

1963
02:33:28,200 --> 02:33:30,500
programs and activities from Parks and Recreation

1964
02:33:30,500 --> 02:33:32,320
from the Seniors and Nutrition Program

1965
02:33:32,320 --> 02:33:33,940
and the Youth Bureau departments.

1966
02:33:34,460 --> 02:33:37,260
So we also spot light some of our community partners.

1967
02:33:37,820 --> 02:33:39,500
I think the Alzheimer's Association

1968
02:33:40,060 --> 02:33:42,360
and others of the Pigsville Library.

1969
02:33:43,040 --> 02:33:47,800
And then we also are highlighting the Board's and Commission's groups or volunteers that assist

1970
02:33:47,800 --> 02:33:52,400
in those departments just to kind of let people know what it is they do, how to contact

1971
02:33:52,400 --> 02:33:54,500
them, and ways to get involved.

1972
02:33:55,320 --> 02:34:01,600
So the QR code people can scan and go right to the sign-up page and get that newsletter

1973
02:34:01,600 --> 02:34:05,720
toward the end of the month for the month prior or month after.

1974
02:34:07,970 --> 02:34:11,150
Do you get email access to it?

1975
02:34:11,150 --> 02:34:11,690
What does that?

1976
02:34:11,950 --> 02:34:13,630
You get email access to it.

1977
02:34:13,810 --> 02:34:13,870
Sure.

1978
02:34:14,890 --> 02:34:15,210
Absolutely.

1979
02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:20,320
Any questions at all?

1980
02:34:20,620 --> 02:34:21,900
Just cover to a couple of brief things.

1981
02:34:22,280 --> 02:34:23,480
Sounds very exciting.

1982
02:34:23,500 --> 02:34:25,080
Sounds like a busy summer.

1983
02:34:25,260 --> 02:34:26,120
Very busy summer.

1984
02:34:26,300 --> 02:34:31,860
We have our concerts, series all square away, or we're going to be having movie parties and

1985
02:34:31,860 --> 02:34:36,520
Puxley Park this year, moving our movies to the middle of downtown, and we're very excited

1986
02:34:36,520 --> 02:34:37,940
about what the summer's going to bring.

1987
02:34:38,320 --> 02:34:38,920
It'll be great.

1988
02:34:39,420 --> 02:34:43,440
And thank you for the presentation, I want to get you through that before I had any questions.

1989
02:34:44,660 --> 02:34:50,760
On the list of programs that you passed out, can you talk me through what's going on with

1990
02:34:50,760 --> 02:34:55,140
the tennis program, with the Peaceful Racket Association and how they're related to the

1991
02:34:55,140 --> 02:34:57,260
city and sort of how that works.

1992
02:34:58,440 --> 02:35:09,400
So we actually had a couple of meetings with the Peaceful Racket Association, which is a

1993
02:35:09,400 --> 02:35:13,160
But this grassroots group does is provides instruction.

1994
02:35:14,100 --> 02:35:19,740
They provide resources in order to build up the game of tennis in the peak skill community.

1995
02:35:20,880 --> 02:35:26,480
So in addition to doing those things, because they're in non-profit group, they can apply

1996
02:35:26,480 --> 02:35:33,020
for grants and actually provide those resources and kind of spill back into the peak skill

1997
02:35:33,020 --> 02:35:33,640
facilities.

1998
02:35:33,980 --> 02:35:35,700
So it's actually a very nice partnership.

1999
02:35:35,700 --> 02:35:40,700
We do have further discussions to talk about what that collaboration looks like and what that means.

2000
02:35:41,980 --> 02:35:45,980
So we're wing a couple of different options in terms of how tennis is going to look moving forward.

2001
02:35:46,520 --> 02:35:53,040
And there's going to be potentially lessons and things available through them and everything is going to be booked to our community pass portal

2002
02:35:53,040 --> 02:35:57,460
and those kinds of things. So those are sort of some of the details are working through now.

2003
02:35:57,980 --> 02:36:02,940
Thank you for that. Well, and the only other thing I wanted to just get clarification on sand volleyball.

2004
02:36:02,940 --> 02:36:07,480
assume that's the pit that's down at the waterfront that has pretty much been

2005
02:36:07,480 --> 02:36:10,780
defunct. Are we bringing that back to life? We are bringing that back to life. Yes,

2006
02:36:10,780 --> 02:36:15,660
we're talking with our DPW and our parks maintenance crew to bring in some sand and

2007
02:36:15,660 --> 02:36:19,880
to rebuild the fence that was damaged some time back. So that is something on our

2008
02:36:19,880 --> 02:36:25,360
checklist. I am proud to report that the PXCIL stadium has been open for use. We have

2009
02:36:25,360 --> 02:36:28,400
the high school team played a game and played a couple of games already and has

2010
02:36:28,400 --> 02:36:33,820
practices so it's looking excellent and the drainage is it doesn't seem to be much of an issue

2011
02:36:33,820 --> 02:36:34,960
at this point.

2012
02:36:35,140 --> 02:36:36,360
Thank you very much.

2013
02:36:36,780 --> 02:36:39,500
For the sand, well at that point, how is that going to be managed?

2014
02:36:40,180 --> 02:36:41,680
So that's something we're working through now.

2015
02:36:41,900 --> 02:36:47,840
We're kind of looking at how it was managed prior from some of the things that we should

2016
02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:52,100
have done a little bit better and that's what we're working for at the moment.

2017
02:36:52,400 --> 02:36:56,580
I just want to make sure that they're open to the public as a prior they were only for

2018
02:36:56,580 --> 02:37:00,160
like leagues and so we were rather than a lot of residents

2019
02:37:00,160 --> 02:37:02,220
who wanted to play and they sure have the availability

2020
02:37:02,220 --> 02:37:02,940
to do it.

2021
02:37:03,120 --> 02:37:06,040
So our plan and the foundation is to be open to residents.

2022
02:37:06,380 --> 02:37:06,500
OK.

2023
02:37:07,060 --> 02:37:07,840
Great, thank you.

2024
02:37:09,520 --> 02:37:12,260
Here's a, I want to follow up on Ramon's question.

2025
02:37:12,760 --> 02:37:17,900
Do you know that the park, the park was, the field

2026
02:37:17,900 --> 02:37:24,460
a bit, the view was actually installed in the fall of the P23.

2027
02:37:24,460 --> 02:37:33,440
use them? Yes. And so, in fact, for the whole year of 2024, not used. Now, to me, it's ridiculous

2028
02:37:33,880 --> 02:37:38,020
that it's not used now. I mean, every time I walk by there, I say, this is, it's a fence

2029
02:37:38,020 --> 02:37:43,580
dog. Nobody goes on it. So, one of the couple of things, people used to just wander up there

2030
02:37:43,580 --> 02:37:46,640
and throw the ball right there. There's a big big stuff. They're organized games and not

2031
02:37:46,640 --> 02:37:52,800
organized games. So, I think it would make sense that it's just open. It's, you know, whoever's

2032
02:37:52,800 --> 02:37:59,400
staff open it at when they're there and then close it and leave so that we're protecting it and

2033
02:37:59,400 --> 02:38:05,480
there's people around. It's kind of embarrassing to look at it and see that nobody has used it for

2034
02:38:05,480 --> 02:38:11,020
not so year and a half. It was really 2023 to build it and you needed to sit through

2035
02:38:12,260 --> 02:38:17,840
ready at least of 2024. But is it locked? It's locked. It's locked. They didn't get into it.

2036
02:38:17,860 --> 02:38:22,300
The gates are a lot so the field itself is still not ready. We're looking to do that very,

2037
02:38:22,300 --> 02:38:28,420
very soon. The issue is that we have to make sure that, you know, we did, the city did

2038
02:38:28,420 --> 02:38:33,060
invest a lot of money into that field and if it's used at the, at the, at the,

2039
02:38:33,140 --> 02:38:38,680
two early of a stage, a lot of that gets torn out on you. It's to, what, in the air in

2040
02:38:38,680 --> 02:38:50,220
group, it did that. It said it needed to have, at least the spring of 2024. So we had to

2041
02:38:50,220 --> 02:38:56,000
to me, that the whole year, and it addresses and said, whoever's telling you that needs to,

2042
02:38:56,000 --> 02:38:57,640
I would like them to speak about that.

2043
02:38:58,020 --> 02:39:04,100
So the issue with the fence you're right, it is locked in the accesses in theory, unavailable.

2044
02:39:04,420 --> 02:39:11,000
That's not the case. People and kids have jumped the fence, played soccer, played games.

2045
02:39:11,300 --> 02:39:17,420
We've had to call the police to kind of come in and manage. We want to make sure that it is

2046
02:39:17,420 --> 02:39:22,600
frustrating to see a field and to see really no good reason why we can't use it.

2047
02:39:22,600 --> 02:39:26,940
We're working with our part maintenance staff and our DPW as well.

2048
02:39:27,520 --> 02:39:31,460
And we just want to make sure that when we do open it, it's something we can keep open.

2049
02:39:31,780 --> 02:39:32,880
What's the issue?

2050
02:39:33,260 --> 02:39:35,440
The issue is the knitting component.

2051
02:39:35,940 --> 02:39:38,420
It hasn't really sat uninterrupted.

2052
02:39:39,040 --> 02:39:43,800
It has been used as sporadically with kids after school and things like that.

2053
02:39:43,800 --> 02:39:49,880
every day just about. I don't see that. I never see a case over there. I stop it over there every day.

2054
02:39:50,240 --> 02:39:55,280
So 3 p.m. after school. Please take a stop. No. I stop it over there in the morning and

2055
02:39:55,280 --> 02:40:03,600
the afternoon daily. I use a go to the restaurant over there and I don't see anybody inside there.

2056
02:40:03,620 --> 02:40:11,520
And another thing followed up even the volleyball in the area. I mean, it is already. So I mean,

2057
02:40:11,520 --> 02:40:15,820
And ready for use, that's another thing, another question.

2058
02:40:16,560 --> 02:40:24,060
And when you mentioned about the soccer program, didn't start because of the school, I mean,

2059
02:40:24,640 --> 02:40:28,680
I don't get it either, because that's one of the largest programs that we have more than 300

2060
02:40:28,680 --> 02:40:36,160
keys registered every season and springing them for, and we have not only now the field,

2061
02:40:36,160 --> 02:40:39,900
We found the Franken, something to use.

2062
02:40:40,600 --> 02:40:44,300
I don't get a weird way for the school to decide for the field.

2063
02:40:44,340 --> 02:40:48,300
We have a meeting coming up with the school to talk about their proposed usage of that field.

2064
02:40:48,760 --> 02:40:50,120
So that's coming very soon.

2065
02:40:50,740 --> 02:40:53,340
As soon as we have all those components in place, then we will.

2066
02:40:53,620 --> 02:40:56,400
But we got it already for years in that program.

2067
02:40:56,960 --> 02:40:58,420
And it's spring and full.

2068
02:40:59,160 --> 02:41:02,340
And we stop up because the school is going to use it.

2069
02:41:02,760 --> 02:41:04,360
And I mean, I don't get it.

2070
02:41:04,380 --> 02:41:05,700
I mean, doesn't mean sense that.

2071
02:41:05,700 --> 02:41:09,220
So where is the soccer play on Torpeo on our field?

2072
02:41:09,640 --> 02:41:11,040
On Torpeo at the moment.

2073
02:41:11,240 --> 02:41:13,020
So the school district has to determine

2074
02:41:13,020 --> 02:41:16,500
how they're going to allow us to use the field, Torpeo?

2075
02:41:16,940 --> 02:41:20,920
The soccer, I don't know, the field and the new field and the

2076
02:41:20,920 --> 02:41:23,760
the new field and the new so I've expressed interest in wanting to

2077
02:41:23,760 --> 02:41:25,980
use the field for the soccer program.

2078
02:41:26,560 --> 02:41:30,820
We're working with them to try to come up with a schedule so that they can

2079
02:41:30,820 --> 02:41:34,920
use it, we can implement programs and things can roll out as they should.

2080
02:41:34,920 --> 02:41:41,540
So we will revisit this week and come up with an actual date of opening coming up soon.

2081
02:41:41,780 --> 02:41:42,800
I'm sorry John, I'm not sure.

2082
02:41:44,360 --> 02:41:46,700
The school season isn't fourth.

2083
02:41:48,140 --> 02:41:54,500
So I don't get it why we don't have this soccer program because in fourth we should have

2084
02:41:54,500 --> 02:41:55,920
and spring another one.

2085
02:41:55,920 --> 02:42:05,720
And usually, the CD program is running and frantic part, and sunshine and wood side feel on the school.

2086
02:42:06,440 --> 02:42:08,060
So that was what it was used before.

2087
02:42:08,940 --> 02:42:12,000
So now we got a feel, and we got it.

2088
02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:16,340
We still have frantic, and we don't have one of the largest programming.

2089
02:42:16,720 --> 02:42:19,900
I don't get it because we are waiting because the school is going to use it.

2090
02:42:19,960 --> 02:42:22,320
I mean, I don't know.

2091
02:42:22,580 --> 02:42:23,960
I mean, something like it's not.

2092
02:42:24,700 --> 02:42:28,820
So, why don't we include you in the meeting, we have upcoming, so that way we can get all

2093
02:42:28,820 --> 02:42:29,780
their questions answered.

2094
02:42:30,160 --> 02:42:31,300
I will be more than absolutely.

2095
02:42:35,550 --> 02:42:41,550
But otherwise, thank you for some very good stuff, but I hope to see that open, so people

2096
02:42:41,550 --> 02:42:49,030
can get in there and play and I've gotten to know a little bit about part of culture and I

2097
02:42:49,030 --> 02:42:54,690
was at the meetings where they told about putting the field and needing to let it sit through

2098
02:42:54,690 --> 02:43:02,390
spring up 2024 so it adequately did. That's my last word on there.

2099
02:43:03,390 --> 02:43:09,070
Did it need? It's getting there. So it hasn't. There are certain weak spots in the field.

2100
02:43:09,670 --> 02:43:12,730
And that's something that we're working with our parks. We need to adapt to try to avoid.

2101
02:43:13,230 --> 02:43:17,910
So that we don't have certain spots that are just getting worn. Some of that had to do with the sprinkler system.

2102
02:43:18,310 --> 02:43:23,590
There are all different components that we had to look at on the punch list for that project.

2103
02:43:23,590 --> 02:43:26,250
And so we just want to make sure that we're doing things properly.

2104
02:43:29,700 --> 02:43:29,900
Here.

2105
02:43:31,980 --> 02:43:32,880
And next.

2106
02:43:42,950 --> 02:43:43,990
The parking.

2107
02:43:45,150 --> 02:43:46,630
You should talk about the parking.

2108
02:43:47,410 --> 02:43:48,570
So it was brought to our attention.

2109
02:43:48,770 --> 02:43:54,450
So I gave you a presented a handout or a, of an overhead view of WP Park.

2110
02:43:55,390 --> 02:44:03,110
Basically, there was a concerns brought up by residents, particularly involving the events at Torpy Field

2111
02:44:03,110 --> 02:44:09,110
and the parking, after hours parking, and depue for those events.

2112
02:44:10,690 --> 02:44:13,170
So, you know, there's parking along Walnut Street there,

2113
02:44:13,930 --> 02:44:19,290
and then the overflow seems to spill into depue park, the second page of that handout,

2114
02:44:19,750 --> 02:44:22,530
has these specific parking spaces that are affected.

2115
02:44:23,690 --> 02:44:26,670
And so, obviously, there are time frames,

2116
02:44:26,890 --> 02:44:28,730
our opening closing is done to dusk.

2117
02:44:29,110 --> 02:44:32,370
Some of the events go into the late evening hours,

2118
02:44:32,370 --> 02:44:39,010
and so are one of the parks advisory board members met with district school district officials

2119
02:44:39,010 --> 02:44:47,790
and the police department to discuss the possible solutions for this, you know, for the issues

2120
02:44:47,790 --> 02:44:54,990
that face pedestrians and parking for the evenings and one of the possibilities was to provide

2121
02:44:54,990 --> 02:44:59,990
to link a chain across the two pillars at the Walnut Street entrance.

2122
02:45:00,740 --> 02:45:10,960
To close the park off? To close off, to chain off the areas to prevent cars from driving into the park at that second, and the parking spaces.

2123
02:45:11,200 --> 02:45:22,420
So can there be any cars from driving into the park that closes at death, so there should be no pedestrians, but then we wouldn't allow people to park to go to events that our school district is having on the Tory field?

2124
02:45:22,660 --> 02:45:29,340
Correct. That was some of the concerns that were brought up by residents. The issue with this, obviously, and the district is conveyed,

2125
02:45:29,340 --> 02:45:35,080
that they are directing people to park at the high school parking lot into walk.

2126
02:45:35,680 --> 02:45:38,320
Do any of the things that that's not the only entrance to the view park.

2127
02:45:38,940 --> 02:45:43,360
So you have the entrance on you need to have a new and rather drive, you have further down

2128
02:45:43,360 --> 02:45:49,500
Bay Street in the pool, you have on Hudson Avenue and Palmerway, you know it's not an easy

2129
02:45:49,500 --> 02:45:49,960
solution.

2130
02:45:50,140 --> 02:45:55,720
So I actually met with the police chief recently to discuss what was what happened and what

2131
02:45:55,720 --> 02:46:00,100
potential solutions and it's really just up for further discussion. There's really no easy

2132
02:46:00,100 --> 02:46:06,800
solution to it. But I do get the concern. We do see that the school district does acknowledge

2133
02:46:06,800 --> 02:46:12,940
that as well. We just want to make sure that residents are safe, that people are parking

2134
02:46:12,940 --> 02:46:17,320
in areas that are all out, and just want to work together.

2135
02:46:18,340 --> 02:46:22,460
How late do these things go? These events go?

2136
02:46:22,460 --> 02:46:31,320
of some of the football games and things maybe, you know, 839 o'clock, some are around their afterdark, and that's just kind of the concerns.

2137
02:46:31,480 --> 02:46:41,460
So they're proposing that you're going to close the entrances of the park until that time.

2138
02:46:42,840 --> 02:46:44,360
So the park?

2139
02:46:44,920 --> 02:46:46,240
So nobody can park there.

2140
02:46:46,720 --> 02:46:49,520
at specifically at the Walmed Street entrance.

2141
02:46:49,940 --> 02:46:50,860
At the Walmed Street.

2142
02:46:52,300 --> 02:46:55,660
And that would be just during events.

2143
02:46:55,660 --> 02:46:58,000
During those events held at Torby Fieldium.

2144
02:47:00,140 --> 02:47:01,560
I don't like that idea.

2145
02:47:01,680 --> 02:47:02,860
I don't need it right now.

2146
02:47:03,580 --> 02:47:08,000
You have a high school that's blocked away with a big park and lot.

2147
02:47:08,220 --> 02:47:09,560
There's two park and lots there.

2148
02:47:09,800 --> 02:47:11,720
Plus the park and lots actually there's three park and lots.

2149
02:47:11,940 --> 02:47:14,840
Because you got the park and lots across the administration building too.

2150
02:47:15,780 --> 02:47:16,440
That's not far.

2151
02:47:16,900 --> 02:47:21,480
So people can actually park their cars and just walk to the Pupi to a torpey field.

2152
02:47:22,440 --> 02:47:26,440
I feel like closing access to a public park like that.

2153
02:47:28,440 --> 02:47:31,880
It's just, I don't feel comfortable with that.

2154
02:47:32,160 --> 02:47:34,540
I know after customers will be in their anyway,

2155
02:47:34,880 --> 02:47:36,720
but I don't like these chains going across.

2156
02:47:37,800 --> 02:47:39,740
It's, it's self-or-regulated.

2157
02:47:39,780 --> 02:47:40,460
I know.

2158
02:47:40,620 --> 02:47:41,120
I agree.

2159
02:47:41,320 --> 02:47:43,820
We have to come up with a solution that I don't believe that that's it.

2160
02:47:43,840 --> 02:47:45,300
I mean, who's complaining again?

2161
02:47:45,300 --> 02:47:49,040
there were residents that were that brought forth this complaint

2162
02:47:49,040 --> 02:47:51,800
they what was the complaint though

2163
02:47:52,360 --> 02:47:56,220
there's too many people parking on that on wall not street and going out

2164
02:47:56,220 --> 02:48:00,020
to how that bothering and somehow I suppose that was parked on wall not street

2165
02:48:00,020 --> 02:48:03,420
could they have a place to park I mean I'm trying to be what they're for

2166
02:48:03,420 --> 02:48:07,340
it's from it's from residents who live on that street

2167
02:48:07,340 --> 02:48:09,740
I didn't complain let me just say

2168
02:48:09,740 --> 02:48:15,140
I don't mind that when there's a nice event

2169
02:48:15,140 --> 02:48:17,320
and there's people there for soccer or whatever

2170
02:48:17,320 --> 02:48:20,040
and the lights are on, I don't mind that they're actually,

2171
02:48:20,340 --> 02:48:21,600
how many times does this fright,

2172
02:48:21,840 --> 02:48:23,180
and I don't train times a year,

2173
02:48:23,440 --> 02:48:25,580
so I don't mind that they park right down at the end of the day.

2174
02:48:25,600 --> 02:48:27,700
I think the chances of somebody

2175
02:48:27,700 --> 02:48:31,160
forget to take the chain off is probably pretty good.

2176
02:48:31,680 --> 02:48:33,300
And also who's going to apply the chain?

2177
02:48:33,500 --> 02:48:34,100
Yeah, yeah.

2178
02:48:34,100 --> 02:48:35,700
And who's going to monitor it?

2179
02:48:35,860 --> 02:48:37,820
Yes, you know, we come up with these,

2180
02:48:41,100 --> 02:48:50,220
I mean, I just feel it's a bit extreme, and I'm not in favor of this, I know we're not

2181
02:48:50,220 --> 02:48:55,140
holding on this for nothing. I'm just saying my own opinion that it's kind of neat when

2182
02:48:55,140 --> 02:49:00,740
they've got the artificial field and the lighting. They can play a really good game at night,

2183
02:49:00,840 --> 02:49:05,620
and it's just very nice for the kids to experience that. Like you're in a big stadium or something

2184
02:49:06,440 --> 02:49:15,380
And if it has a little spill over there, and it's nice that the school district has a lot of stuff for us and we better than I can help just.

2185
02:49:16,100 --> 02:49:31,300
And even the football team in soccer team they have a good season, and they went more longer, like, almost like a championship and increase the public for BC tourism and local.

2186
02:49:31,300 --> 02:49:45,040
I mean, that's another thing, but I remember the, I think it's from 2000, the plan, the

2187
02:49:45,040 --> 02:49:53,640
DPU powerhouse for 2000, I don't know, I think I'll show you, they have some design in

2188
02:49:53,640 --> 02:49:59,420
around the fence for the totally field to expand the parking lot, and I don't know, I give

2189
02:49:59,420 --> 02:50:05,300
about to catty before that she lived because we used it for this question for the field.

2190
02:50:06,800 --> 02:50:11,380
And some point they mentioned, like there was a school property, so I don't know, I

2191
02:50:11,380 --> 02:50:15,600
don't know, I don't know, clear like if that's a peaceful property or it's a school they

2192
02:50:15,600 --> 02:50:16,820
should be properly around then.

2193
02:50:17,420 --> 02:50:21,500
So I think it's a good thing to encourage people visiting and going to the sporting

2194
02:50:21,500 --> 02:50:25,300
events at Torpea. I think it's a good thing for the community. We want to have these things.

2195
02:50:25,620 --> 02:50:29,400
And we do get that maybe there's some concerns that some residents have. You know, we

2196
02:50:29,400 --> 02:50:31,460
We do want to listen to, you know,

2197
02:50:31,520 --> 02:50:33,020
it was all the voices as possible.

2198
02:50:33,900 --> 02:50:37,660
In just one case, it sort of sounds like you're listening only

2199
02:50:37,660 --> 02:50:41,040
to the residents who are annoying.

2200
02:50:41,840 --> 02:50:43,560
Well, I mean, we do want to listen to their concerns

2201
02:50:43,560 --> 02:50:45,320
and kind of bring them to your attention.

2202
02:50:45,660 --> 02:50:49,020
But we do, obviously, we are a community-based city.

2203
02:50:49,520 --> 02:50:52,220
And so we kind of thrive in that involvement and engagement.

2204
02:50:53,080 --> 02:50:56,000
So part of our job is to communicate these to the council.

2205
02:50:56,520 --> 02:50:57,960
Yeah, OK, thank you.

2206
02:50:59,060 --> 02:51:03,340
increase the communication, maybe the sign, the school, maybe you have

2207
02:51:03,340 --> 02:51:06,520
provide more, more information where they had to park.

2208
02:51:06,940 --> 02:51:10,420
I know, I know that this is a high school parking lot.

2209
02:51:10,700 --> 02:51:16,640
There's three of them sitting right there and, you know, you can use those and direct them.

2210
02:51:16,700 --> 02:51:20,200
There's a part, put a sign up to the parking, but that's also close parking.

2211
02:51:20,980 --> 02:51:24,980
If you have family members coming from out of town and they're coming to the game, they

2212
02:51:24,980 --> 02:51:26,160
see a parking lot they're going to park.

2213
02:51:26,160 --> 02:51:32,260
Right, you know, I think it's, it's accessible because there's a walkway from the parking lot to the field.

2214
02:51:32,480 --> 02:51:41,840
It's almost a natural extension as you're driving into the, you know, if something is happening in the park, then that's another issue, but I'm parking is the least of our problem.

2215
02:51:42,400 --> 02:51:52,160
The, the issue also like a people parking legal place around the park in the grass area and that kind of end, maybe increase the signs and show like, I don't know,

2216
02:51:52,160 --> 02:51:57,800
for the more communication and for the service that would be and if somebody is up on the

2217
02:51:57,800 --> 02:52:01,400
grass and the police go by and give them a ticket, I hate to say, but you're not supposed

2218
02:52:01,400 --> 02:52:02,180
to park on the grass.

2219
02:52:03,080 --> 02:52:08,520
In this school, it should provide more information about the children and the visits of where

2220
02:52:08,520 --> 02:52:09,240
there's just a part.

2221
02:52:09,540 --> 02:52:09,820
Thank you.

2222
02:52:11,380 --> 02:52:12,000
Thanks, John.

2223
02:52:12,120 --> 02:52:12,380
Thanks.

2224
02:52:12,580 --> 02:52:13,240
Thank you, John.

2225
02:52:13,400 --> 02:52:14,320
I've been.

2226
02:52:14,660 --> 02:52:20,900
And lastly, one of the item I have here, talking about the purchase of a 40 passenger

2227
02:52:20,900 --> 02:52:27,940
bus for the to expand program accessibility. So the nutrition department is seeking approval to

2228
02:52:28,620 --> 02:52:33,580
purchase a 40 passenger bus to expand transportation services for the city of Beakskill.

2229
02:52:33,840 --> 02:52:39,460
It really will significantly enhance access to residents and participation in a wide range of city

2230
02:52:39,460 --> 02:52:48,140
programs, community services and events. So the cost of a school bus is upwards of $160,000.

2231
02:52:48,140 --> 02:52:56,240
We did find a lease purchase program where the monthly fee is approximately 2750.

2232
02:52:56,840 --> 02:53:03,360
That does include a use of a substitute bus when the purchased vehicle is in for maintenance or repairs.

2233
02:53:04,100 --> 02:53:12,160
So to give you an example, in this year's budget, $50,000 is allocated to bus rental for the camp programs.

2234
02:53:12,680 --> 02:53:19,780
However, the white WCA is overseeing day camp, and they are renting the buses for camp.

2235
02:53:20,560 --> 02:53:26,300
So what I'm proposing is we use some of those funds to really expand not just for six weeks

2236
02:53:26,300 --> 02:53:30,880
usage, but really for the entire year, and we can use that in a multitude of ways.

2237
02:53:31,540 --> 02:53:33,060
So that's one of the things I'm talking about.

2238
02:53:33,060 --> 02:53:38,040
What is that going to be as far as transportation to programs and services?

2239
02:53:38,040 --> 02:53:43,340
So for example, it would be so seniors that would also be used for youth for our teen travel

2240
02:53:43,340 --> 02:53:45,520
camp for any other community events.

2241
02:53:45,720 --> 02:53:49,080
We have it's nice to have their transportation, for at least for the senior population.

2242
02:53:49,780 --> 02:53:53,900
Part of the reason that we're so active in successful is because we do have transportation,

2243
02:53:54,500 --> 02:53:56,080
which is really, really nice.

2244
02:53:56,360 --> 02:53:58,580
So expanding this and this kind of transportation of that.

2245
02:53:58,860 --> 02:54:01,200
We do have some transportation, yes.

2246
02:54:01,340 --> 02:54:07,100
But going back a few years, we did have a large blue and white school bus, if you remember.

2247
02:54:07,640 --> 02:54:12,080
that because of COVID did not kind of make it through that time frame.

2248
02:54:12,760 --> 02:54:15,200
And so this is kind of a solution we're looking at.

2249
02:54:15,400 --> 02:54:18,900
We are seeing in more engagement and involvement than ever before.

2250
02:54:19,280 --> 02:54:22,100
Yes, this must have the list or whatever.

2251
02:54:23,440 --> 02:54:24,900
And we have to look.

2252
02:54:24,900 --> 02:54:25,040
We have to look.

2253
02:54:25,040 --> 02:54:30,980
I have some questions out with the company to see what options are available and what the price points are.

2254
02:54:31,100 --> 02:54:35,120
So this is an estimate, a very close estimate to what the cost would be.

2255
02:54:35,120 --> 02:54:41,140
So we're have to see what they come back with and what's the turns 2750 a month for how long for five years?

2256
02:54:42,820 --> 02:54:45,260
Well, I think you know

2257
02:54:45,260 --> 02:54:48,540
I don't know maybe it's just me, but I'm feeling

2258
02:54:49,840 --> 02:54:58,380
cautious about spending large capital spend expenditures right now until we sort of we're already spending the money on rentals

2259
02:54:59,680 --> 02:55:04,240
You're spending the money that much money 50 thousand rentals

2260
02:55:05,120 --> 02:55:06,580
together for a six-week period.

2261
02:55:06,980 --> 02:55:08,680
So we're talking about 180.

2262
02:55:10,220 --> 02:55:17,360
It's $2,700 a month, times 12, times 5, but we would only, whereas we saw in 50,000

2263
02:55:17,360 --> 02:55:19,840
dollars was six weeks to rent us.

2264
02:55:21,120 --> 02:55:27,060
And the fact that we have seniors who cannot go on the trips that are, because there's

2265
02:55:27,060 --> 02:55:27,500
not enough room.

2266
02:55:27,700 --> 02:55:27,840
Right.

2267
02:55:28,740 --> 02:55:33,040
I don't know if you want to give them numbers, but our senior figures have increased in that

2268
02:55:33,040 --> 02:55:36,040
program, the well over 100?

2269
02:55:36,400 --> 02:55:39,820
We have 600 active members in the A.O. program alone.

2270
02:55:40,360 --> 02:55:42,540
And so with one bus, they can't go on trips.

2271
02:55:43,060 --> 02:55:43,560
Right, correct.

2272
02:55:43,900 --> 02:55:46,920
So let's do provide the transportation VR shuttle.

2273
02:55:47,560 --> 02:55:51,280
We do have to limit once 24 passengers are reached,

2274
02:55:52,040 --> 02:55:53,720
which is on a fairly regular basis.

2275
02:55:54,040 --> 02:55:55,980
We're starting to implement different measures

2276
02:55:56,550 --> 02:55:58,820
doing multiple runs per day and those kind of things.

2277
02:55:58,840 --> 02:56:01,600
But we just want to be cautious as well with some of the assets

2278
02:56:01,600 --> 02:56:06,920
we have and not kind of overrun, you know, we want to maintain and be sure we can use those

2279
02:56:06,920 --> 02:56:11,660
responsibly. As we know in our monthly senior advisory meetings, this comes up every

2280
02:56:11,660 --> 02:56:18,160
every month. I know this will be used for all other things, which is great. So you have a bus,

2281
02:56:18,160 --> 02:56:24,380
I really believe we do need that 40 passenger bus. I feel it's important. Our senior program has

2282
02:56:24,380 --> 02:56:29,920
grown in leaps and bounds, and they're asking to go to more places, and there's not enough

2283
02:56:29,920 --> 02:56:35,700
just as the mayor was saying before we are really booming in our senior activities and stuff

2284
02:56:35,700 --> 02:56:36,020
like that.

2285
02:56:36,180 --> 02:56:37,240
I really feel it's a need.

2286
02:56:37,640 --> 02:56:42,540
I feel not only that, but you have it for all other activities what we can use it for.

2287
02:56:42,680 --> 02:56:44,600
They can't whatever else we need it for.

2288
02:56:44,940 --> 02:56:51,320
And I think it's an investment because of renting those bus other buses and stuff, I believe

2289
02:56:51,320 --> 02:56:54,120
it's better to have it in-house our own bus.

2290
02:56:54,120 --> 02:56:58,920
I think for this very reason, if you look at it, we're spending $50,000 for six weeks.

2291
02:56:58,920 --> 02:57:04,600
And we could only, for $33,000 a year, that's half of the cost for the period.

2292
02:57:04,840 --> 02:57:08,280
So I think we have to look at what is feasible financial.

2293
02:57:09,440 --> 02:57:13,040
When we rent the bus, it's only the bus, who is the driver?

2294
02:57:13,680 --> 02:57:15,700
So the bus company does provide the driver.

2295
02:57:16,580 --> 02:57:19,680
So when we do rent them, they do provide the driver.

2296
02:57:19,860 --> 02:57:23,480
When we rented that now, we're going to include a now that driver.

2297
02:57:23,680 --> 02:57:28,840
So we have several drivers on our staff that help us deliver and drive buses and things.

2298
02:57:28,840 --> 02:57:34,060
We would just talk them in as well with whatever it is we're doing with the activity.

2299
02:57:35,640 --> 02:57:37,180
But that has to be included.

2300
02:57:37,980 --> 02:57:41,660
What he's saying to us, we already have bus drivers on our payroll.

2301
02:57:41,720 --> 02:57:42,220
Yes, we do.

2302
02:57:42,220 --> 02:57:43,380
I already paid.

2303
02:57:43,960 --> 02:57:45,360
So it's not an additional cost.

2304
02:57:45,520 --> 02:57:49,780
We would just be having them instead of driving the smaller car or whatever they're delivering.

2305
02:57:50,380 --> 02:57:51,580
They'd be driving the bus.

2306
02:57:51,960 --> 02:57:58,680
So we're not adding any salary or any cost for employees because we already have them and already paid them.

2307
02:57:58,680 --> 02:58:12,620
And we're cutting the cost of the bus rental from 50,000 giving money away to rent it to owning it for $33,000 a year versus 50,000 dollars for six weeks.

2308
02:58:12,960 --> 02:58:22,480
Right, but when we're going to use that driver, I mean, had to be here if we're going to have like over time or something like that.

2309
02:58:22,480 --> 02:58:27,520
I mean, that would be another cost up to another 20, something thousand dollars because we already

2310
02:58:27,520 --> 02:58:29,280
have them already paying them.

2311
02:58:29,780 --> 02:58:33,800
So if there's some overtime, maybe, but we're already paying these drivers, they already

2312
02:58:33,800 --> 02:58:34,840
work for us.

2313
02:58:35,960 --> 02:58:38,900
It's just a maintenance include an overtime group of depreciation.

2314
02:58:39,100 --> 02:58:42,620
I mean, it's very, very, very huge need for this.

2315
02:58:42,820 --> 02:58:43,700
No, no.

2316
02:58:43,700 --> 02:58:52,080
I don't say, you know, I mean, I just mentioned, like, about even follow the, uh, uh,

2317
02:58:52,080 --> 02:58:54,900
I got the comment about the situation, I was like,

2318
02:58:54,900 --> 02:58:58,440
we had to be precaution like how we're going

2319
02:58:58,440 --> 02:59:00,240
to have moving in the spending because...

2320
02:59:00,240 --> 02:59:01,920
But you're already spending the money.

2321
02:59:01,920 --> 02:59:02,360
It is.

2322
02:59:02,480 --> 02:59:05,380
We're not spending enough of 10 million of the equals.

2323
02:59:05,580 --> 02:59:07,180
So we got to, no one had ahead of us.

2324
02:59:07,300 --> 02:59:11,860
So I say, I say, like, I would, you had to bring the entire map.

2325
02:59:12,100 --> 02:59:14,480
I mean, how would we because, like, a driver?

2326
02:59:14,720 --> 02:59:15,940
How would we because, man, didn't it?

2327
02:59:15,980 --> 02:59:17,180
How would we because the appreciation?

2328
02:59:17,420 --> 02:59:18,620
How would we because, insure him?

2329
02:59:18,980 --> 02:59:21,000
I mean, that would be something that we need to put in

2330
02:59:21,000 --> 02:59:27,720
And inside of them, not only like just 18,000 difference per year.

2331
02:59:28,620 --> 02:59:30,500
And we need to have a line for a nation.

2332
02:59:30,680 --> 02:59:31,600
It's not a year.

2333
02:59:32,180 --> 02:59:34,640
No, no, no, 50,000 years per year.

2334
02:59:34,740 --> 02:59:38,060
Since we're in the year, we spend 50,000.

2335
02:59:38,220 --> 02:59:41,000
Now, we're talking about reducing 32,000.

2336
02:59:41,000 --> 02:59:42,600
It's going to be 18,000 less.

2337
02:59:43,100 --> 02:59:44,840
But we have to include all the things,

2338
02:59:44,840 --> 02:59:50,820
insurance, depreciation, maintenance, all that kind of thing, and maybe have the inside of

2339
02:59:50,820 --> 02:59:51,020
them out.

2340
02:59:51,480 --> 02:59:55,600
So, because it is at least vehicle, the maintenance is included in the contract.

2341
02:59:56,240 --> 02:59:59,500
But more importantly, when the vehicle is in for maintenance, we're a priori.

2342
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:04,880
The leasing company provides us a substitute bus, so we have no interruption of service.

2343
03:00:05,200 --> 03:00:11,500
The leasing, including, like, excited, embrace, and all that thing that does, as you say, the leasing to a correct, any student?

2344
03:00:11,860 --> 03:00:18,860
Insurance is an incremental amount, we can get the estimate, because we're already ensuring a fair number of vehicles through the city.

2345
03:00:19,280 --> 03:00:21,340
I would like to have a lint item for me, sure.

2346
03:00:21,340 --> 03:00:28,900
So we're showing you tonight, you're going to see in your package lots of talk about future

2347
03:00:28,900 --> 03:00:29,940
capital purchases.

2348
03:00:31,120 --> 03:00:38,060
We're talking about this specifically because we know that this is a tough time and we

2349
03:00:38,060 --> 03:00:41,820
want you to see all of the things that we've had in the capital plan.

2350
03:00:42,580 --> 03:00:48,300
So I think we will take your comments and come back to you with more information.

2351
03:00:48,300 --> 03:00:51,480
and we're interested in getting your feedback, Chris,

2352
03:00:51,740 --> 03:00:55,640
has a long list of equipment that he needs.

2353
03:00:56,380 --> 03:01:02,140
We've done a broad survey of all of the needed capital purchases.

2354
03:01:03,840 --> 03:01:06,880
So, because we know that we need to keep providing services,

2355
03:01:07,400 --> 03:01:09,320
but we need to have this conversation with you.

2356
03:01:10,240 --> 03:01:13,180
So, I would say that we'll come back to you

2357
03:01:13,180 --> 03:01:14,540
with more information this week.

2358
03:01:14,540 --> 03:01:23,160
Do you have a bus in mind have you scope that a bus we did we scope that a bus and that's what was based the cost is based off of

2359
03:01:23,160 --> 03:01:27,060
The bus that we're currently looking at is in stock and on the lock

2360
03:01:27,060 --> 03:01:33,460
So it's just obviously there's further discussion to be had, but that's where we look at it

2361
03:01:36,440 --> 03:01:41,400
Have you looked at that place on 202 that's that refurbishing electric buses?

2362
03:01:43,620 --> 03:01:51,160
I looked at it, I haven't sought any further information, but we can certainly reach out and see what they have to offer.

2363
03:01:54,060 --> 03:01:56,280
Okay, I said we would have a site.

2364
03:01:58,500 --> 03:01:59,160
Moving along.

2365
03:01:59,240 --> 03:01:59,780
Thank you, remember.

2366
03:02:00,120 --> 03:02:00,560
Thank you.

2367
03:02:01,200 --> 03:02:05,830
Okay Chris, I'd like to call you up a little early.

2368
03:02:06,070 --> 03:02:06,470
I'm sorry.

2369
03:02:06,830 --> 03:02:10,030
So finally, it's as Tony's going to start.

2370
03:02:12,830 --> 03:02:18,290
Go ahead, Tony, because you're going to talk about

2371
03:02:22,960 --> 03:02:25,880
good evening Mayor, City Council and City Manager.

2372
03:02:26,240 --> 03:02:26,880
Good evening, everybody.

2373
03:02:27,840 --> 03:02:35,940
So the first thing I have for you tonight is I'm requesting authorization that Council to amend the 2025 fiscal year budget.

2374
03:02:36,900 --> 03:02:41,760
The first amendment is for some emergency repairs to some public works equipment.

2375
03:02:41,760 --> 03:02:49,300
we have a plow and excavator and a truck that need emergency repairs and on this amendment you'll

2376
03:02:49,300 --> 03:02:54,060
see that we do have some available funds in our health insurance line because we did budget very

2377
03:02:54,060 --> 03:03:00,560
conservatively so there's a little extra available to transfer into some of the public works maintenance

2378
03:03:00,560 --> 03:03:09,340
lines so we would be moving $75,000 from health insurance and putting $25,000 in highway

2379
03:03:09,340 --> 03:03:16,120
$30,000 in the snow budget and $20,000 in the parks budget for those pieces of equipment.

2380
03:03:17,680 --> 03:03:21,140
And the next one is also from the Health Insurance line.

2381
03:03:21,640 --> 03:03:27,100
I have on here $54,000 and it's going into landscaping and tree replacement,

2382
03:03:28,120 --> 03:03:33,000
which is also a discussion you'll be having in a few minutes with Christopher Groves.

2383
03:03:33,000 --> 03:03:40,720
He may want to increase that to $60,000 based on some information he has to present to you on a little while.

2384
03:03:41,560 --> 03:03:47,920
So, depending on how you would like to move forward with that, I can adjust the amendment for the Resolution next week.

2385
03:03:49,240 --> 03:03:49,520
Question?

2386
03:03:50,220 --> 03:03:51,760
Would you replace Minus Good?

2387
03:03:52,560 --> 03:03:53,640
If you replace Minus Good.

2388
03:03:54,240 --> 03:03:57,380
And landscaping as well.

2389
03:03:58,740 --> 03:03:59,960
That's sort of needed.

2390
03:03:59,960 --> 03:04:08,180
I want you to, this is max out our debit or our credit that we currently have in health insurance or there's still money to play with.

2391
03:04:08,400 --> 03:04:12,860
We do still have a little bit of access there, not a lot, but there is a little person.

2392
03:04:13,080 --> 03:04:18,100
If we have any emergencies, we can add that to the contingency that we budget it.

2393
03:04:18,300 --> 03:04:18,600
Okay, great.

2394
03:04:18,620 --> 03:04:19,700
We do have a little access.

2395
03:04:19,920 --> 03:04:20,860
Thank you.

2396
03:04:23,260 --> 03:04:23,660
Anybody else?

2397
03:04:23,980 --> 03:04:24,660
Good point.

2398
03:04:25,260 --> 03:04:26,000
Thank you.

2399
03:04:27,780 --> 03:04:33,000
Okay, next I have the resolution seeking approval from the City Council.

2400
03:04:33,000 --> 03:04:40,800
to levy and collect the 2025 taxes that were approved on November 12, 2024.

2401
03:04:41,760 --> 03:04:49,160
This will include the Westchester County taxes in the amount of $5,857,664.

2402
03:04:49,160 --> 03:05:06,020
and MTA tax of $381,161 county solid waste in the amount of $900,945 county sewer, $3,545,105,105,

2403
03:05:06,020 --> 03:05:18,160
The City of Peac scale tax levy 20 million 20,538 dollars, the library fund 1,778,000 dollars,

2404
03:05:18,340 --> 03:05:27,480
the business improvement district in the amount of 100,000 dollars, and energized New York in the amount of 21,243 dollars.

2405
03:05:27,480 --> 03:05:36,400
The total is $32,607,656, and with you are approval, then we will bring a resolution

2406
03:05:36,400 --> 03:05:39,300
next week authorizing the collection of the taxes.

2407
03:05:40,040 --> 03:05:40,600
Questions?

2408
03:05:41,460 --> 03:05:42,760
Nobody's going to be with that.

2409
03:05:42,760 --> 03:05:43,600
I don't get it.

2410
03:05:44,040 --> 03:05:44,640
The energizer.

2411
03:05:45,200 --> 03:05:47,240
I must track of what that is again.

2412
03:05:47,800 --> 03:05:49,320
Energize, New York.

2413
03:05:50,060 --> 03:06:02,100
That was a special business district to me and people were able to purchase ether energy efficiency

2414
03:06:02,100 --> 03:06:07,460
or solar of not sure which I can find out more about the program and they were able to finance

2415
03:06:07,460 --> 03:06:08,460
it.

2416
03:06:08,460 --> 03:06:12,060
It's an annual line now that will be in the budget.

2417
03:06:13,020 --> 03:06:17,080
It's an annual revenue and expense equal to the same amount.

2418
03:06:17,080 --> 03:06:24,920
I already got my bill, so did you already get your bills, or did you have the same thing?

2419
03:06:25,800 --> 03:06:27,660
So I guess we'd better pass a resolution.

2420
03:06:29,060 --> 03:06:29,500
Right?

2421
03:06:31,160 --> 03:06:37,720
I just have one point of follow-up that I would love to get at some point is a breakdown of the library fund.

2422
03:06:38,140 --> 03:06:42,400
I just would like to see that broken out as to where the million seven goes.

2423
03:06:43,000 --> 03:06:43,840
Okay, how that gets spent?

2424
03:06:43,900 --> 03:06:45,920
I don't know if that could be a presentation in a cow,

2425
03:06:45,920 --> 03:06:51,360
just to with the memo would be fine is what library fund we just collect their assessed

2426
03:06:52,200 --> 03:07:00,120
tax their their tax bills for them right right so it's a levy amount they send over to us for their

2427
03:07:00,120 --> 03:07:06,080
by love to see with the budget no but we but their budget is public we'll get through their budget

2428
03:07:06,080 --> 03:07:12,680
that's on us yeah maybe we can get the copy of the budget for everyone and then we collect this

2429
03:07:12,680 --> 03:07:16,680
And we pay it for the library and four equal installments throughout the year.

2430
03:07:17,280 --> 03:07:20,540
So we don't also issue it all in one lump sum to them.

2431
03:07:26,000 --> 03:07:28,460
So my next proposal, our memo, I'm sorry.

2432
03:07:29,140 --> 03:07:32,820
The next one is for an amended bond resolution.

2433
03:07:33,900 --> 03:07:41,940
So on June 26th, 2023, the city council authorized the issuance of $14.3 million in aggregate principle.

2434
03:07:42,800 --> 03:07:49,500
to finance the cost of acquisition, construction, and reconstruction of water and sewer system improvements.

2435
03:07:50,600 --> 03:07:58,440
We are working with the environmental facilities corporation and they offer the city grants and long combination of those finances.

2436
03:07:59,380 --> 03:08:08,220
For water and sewer projects, they requested that we submit separate resolutions for water and sewer, so they each have their own resolutions.

2437
03:08:08,220 --> 03:08:15,540
So what you have in front of you now will be a resolution for next week for 10.4 million dollars.

2438
03:08:15,700 --> 03:08:18,940
And that will be just for the sewer system improvements.

2439
03:08:21,370 --> 03:08:24,710
So with your approval, then we'll bring the resolution next week for that.

2440
03:08:24,850 --> 03:08:25,890
So what about the water?

2441
03:08:26,690 --> 03:08:30,610
I believe he's finalizing some numbers on the water projects.

2442
03:08:31,010 --> 03:08:35,710
And then we can bring another one for those specific projects too.

2443
03:08:35,710 --> 03:08:40,350
So we actually haven't issued the 14.3 million on it.

2444
03:08:40,550 --> 03:08:43,850
Right, so we have authorization in place, but we would be

2445
03:08:43,850 --> 03:08:47,770
rescinding that with this resolution and reauthorizing

2446
03:08:47,770 --> 03:08:51,370
that specific sewer amount moving forward.

2447
03:08:51,710 --> 03:08:53,650
That's the rest of the resolution.

2448
03:08:53,850 --> 03:08:55,730
That's the question for most for legal.

2449
03:08:56,730 --> 03:08:59,090
That resolution it will be through the

2450
03:08:59,090 --> 03:09:03,850
Spain, like how it was approved and been 23 and now the

2451
03:09:03,850 --> 03:09:05,390
because he's going to be charming.

2452
03:09:06,250 --> 03:09:13,210
Who it just resents the resolution and re-approved a new resolution?

2453
03:09:14,490 --> 03:09:14,830
Right.

2454
03:09:15,070 --> 03:09:16,650
So it will be, say that.

2455
03:09:16,850 --> 03:09:19,110
And the resolution will state that.

2456
03:09:19,650 --> 03:09:24,030
At reference is the resolution number and the date that the original one was passed.

2457
03:09:28,490 --> 03:09:30,230
Go back to that.

2458
03:09:30,510 --> 03:09:30,730
Okay.

2459
03:09:30,970 --> 03:09:31,930
And the next one.

2460
03:09:32,470 --> 03:09:36,070
So this one is what the city manager mentioned a few minutes ago.

2461
03:09:36,070 --> 03:09:40,830
This is including a list for various departments.

2462
03:09:41,710 --> 03:09:44,870
So the vehicle that Jonathan's more of just mentioned.

2463
03:09:45,970 --> 03:09:51,470
And then we have a couple of separate memos as well for public works equipment.

2464
03:09:51,650 --> 03:09:56,470
There's a full listing here of trucks and excavators,

2465
03:09:56,670 --> 03:10:00,310
all different types of equipment that public works will be needing to purchase.

2466
03:10:00,310 --> 03:10:04,850
That is in the total of $2,490,000.

2467
03:10:06,630 --> 03:10:09,270
We also have a list of police equipment.

2468
03:10:10,770 --> 03:10:15,310
And that is a list of cars for $392,618.

2469
03:10:17,970 --> 03:10:23,830
And in combination with the bus and I believe water and sewer has a couple pieces of equipment.

2470
03:10:24,430 --> 03:10:30,090
So what we're looking to do, this is a total of 8.263 million dollars.

2471
03:10:30,090 --> 03:10:36,730
And these are items from the capital plan that we have from last year and we will be working

2472
03:10:36,730 --> 03:10:41,670
with again this year to bring it current and get everything included in it.

2473
03:10:42,090 --> 03:10:48,470
So we are looking for a resolution for a capital lease for a $3,663,000.

2474
03:10:49,710 --> 03:10:53,490
And I currently have some quotes from two leasing companies.

2475
03:10:54,330 --> 03:10:58,710
I have just recently reached out to a third one just so you'll have some other information

2476
03:10:58,710 --> 03:11:04,490
to compare the way between the three companies and way out what the best option is for that financing.

2477
03:11:06,050 --> 03:11:13,150
And also mentioned on this memo, we have the Nelson and James Street garages for $3.8 million.

2478
03:11:13,150 --> 03:11:20,630
These are repairs and improvements needed on the garages and police station improvements $1.4 million.

2479
03:11:20,630 --> 03:11:29,690
So we will be looking into the debt needed to finance those, that's $5.2 million for buildings and grounds improvements.

2480
03:11:31,230 --> 03:11:40,570
And the last item definitely not the least on your list on this memo is that the city just received a grant award letter for the momentum projects.

2481
03:11:40,570 --> 03:11:46,890
The grant is $10 million, there is a $10 million match required for that.

2482
03:11:47,270 --> 03:11:52,550
But the $3.8 million, we had just mentioned the city financing for the garages,

2483
03:11:52,830 --> 03:11:55,770
can be used toward the $10 million match.

2484
03:11:56,730 --> 03:12:00,390
So that is at least a portion of the match that would be in place.

2485
03:12:02,190 --> 03:12:05,830
So overall we will be looking at all of these capital projects

2486
03:12:05,830 --> 03:12:08,950
and determining what types of financing would be needed

2487
03:12:08,950 --> 03:12:13,330
and then bring that before the council to look at the options and make those decisions.

2488
03:12:14,230 --> 03:12:22,850
So the momentum we would need the entire $20 million to which includes the $3.8 million

2489
03:12:22,850 --> 03:12:28,770
to be put and Carol's going to bring that back to you, but we're trying to give you a broad

2490
03:12:28,770 --> 03:12:36,110
picture of all capital needs and all debt needs coming up in the near future so that you have

2491
03:12:36,110 --> 03:12:41,950
as much information to look at in one meeting.

2492
03:12:43,110 --> 03:12:46,430
So these are all of the projects that we've been working on,

2493
03:12:46,750 --> 03:12:49,370
but these needs are coming upon us.

2494
03:12:50,550 --> 03:12:57,410
And so the way I'm proposing that you look at these asks

2495
03:12:57,410 --> 03:13:01,730
is to first look at the lease number,

2496
03:13:02,110 --> 03:13:04,450
because what I would really like to do

2497
03:13:04,450 --> 03:13:12,490
is to sort of get a handle on what we need in operational equipment in order to keep the city

2498
03:13:12,490 --> 03:13:18,650
moving and responding on a daily basis with people who are employed by the city with the

2499
03:13:18,650 --> 03:13:25,510
right equipment so that they can keep the work going with the lease. And secondly, to let us

2500
03:13:25,510 --> 03:13:32,070
come back to you and talk about the biggest strategy of debt financing through bonds for all of

2501
03:13:32,070 --> 03:13:37,610
other items. And so that's what we're really trying to talk to you about tonight.

2502
03:13:38,610 --> 03:13:44,130
I know, you know, there's tough times we have to be careful with our spending and of course.

2503
03:13:44,790 --> 03:13:49,410
I just want to put out there and I don't know. I know there's in here it says,

2504
03:13:49,550 --> 03:13:54,510
replacement elevator for the neighborhood center is that repairs or actual

2505
03:13:54,510 --> 03:13:57,870
placement of that elevator in the neighborhood center.

2506
03:13:57,870 --> 03:14:00,710
Chris, Chris, I'll talk to you when he comes up.

2507
03:14:01,390 --> 03:14:02,530
I'll talk to you.

2508
03:14:02,530 --> 03:14:05,250
To focus on that when he's got his whole list.

2509
03:14:05,310 --> 03:14:05,670
Okay.

2510
03:14:05,710 --> 03:14:06,230
Thank you.

2511
03:14:06,430 --> 03:14:13,050
So Matt, you're going to break out the 3 million in leases in what that includes based on what we're doing

2512
03:14:13,050 --> 03:14:14,510
about tonight in terms of equipment.

2513
03:14:15,150 --> 03:14:15,250
Yeah.

2514
03:14:15,250 --> 03:14:18,550
And we're ready to scale back that.

2515
03:14:19,090 --> 03:14:24,630
But we do, we definitely need some of the majority of this stuff.

2516
03:14:25,330 --> 03:14:32,590
Now, you know, so this is stuff like the Leaf collection system, we're interested in getting that, we need additional trucks.

2517
03:14:33,270 --> 03:14:39,550
It was a long time ago that we put out the last lease for a major equipment buy.

2518
03:14:39,590 --> 03:14:48,210
That was in 2022, actually, is when we got that resolution and we're still waiting for one more thing.

2519
03:14:48,210 --> 03:14:52,590
So it took us until 2025 to get all of the pieces of that.

2520
03:14:52,750 --> 03:14:57,690
The good news is we got a great rate because we did that before rates really crazy

2521
03:14:58,170 --> 03:14:59,990
and we were able to...

2522
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:25,040
And we're also paid up since 2023, I believe, when the police started getting paid down. So we've got years of payments made on that money that we borrowed, but we need to keep turning over and keep bringing in new capital equipment to replace capital equipment that's gone past its useful life.

2523
03:15:25,040 --> 03:15:31,900
And so Chris is going to talk to you about more, are you done telling you with your piece?

2524
03:15:32,280 --> 03:15:38,140
The other thing to mention with the momentum grant is that that does not work like the typical grants work,

2525
03:15:39,120 --> 03:15:44,520
where you can get work done, submit, get some cash back, and then continue that rotating process.

2526
03:15:44,980 --> 03:15:49,500
It's more of spending the whole thing completing the project, and then getting reimbursed.

2527
03:15:50,260 --> 03:15:56,840
So that's the other need, we need the other reason we need to look into the financing ahead of time and have cash available.

2528
03:15:57,580 --> 03:16:13,600
Carol has some chief Carol needs to talk to you about that entire plan because we've engaged a firm to help us with that process and there she's got some interesting tricks up her sleeve to help us make that work better.

2529
03:16:13,600 --> 03:16:20,320
that is not as bleak and as bad as what we're saying but it is a big project and you

2530
03:16:20,320 --> 03:16:25,800
need to know what front that's going to require resources and we're going to need to get that

2531
03:16:25,800 --> 03:16:35,300
started so we can keep moving through and my problem. First of all, what is the garbage AI camera?

2532
03:16:35,300 --> 03:16:37,240
Chris is going to talk about this.

2533
03:16:37,540 --> 03:16:38,960
Okay, and I'll find Chris.

2534
03:16:39,340 --> 03:16:39,960
Yeah, well.

2535
03:16:40,360 --> 03:16:40,680
Cool.

2536
03:16:41,340 --> 03:16:43,780
This is a really big list.

2537
03:16:44,600 --> 03:16:45,740
And it's really expensive.

2538
03:16:46,400 --> 03:16:48,620
And I'm feeling the question.

2539
03:16:48,820 --> 03:16:50,220
Have any guests talk about it?

2540
03:16:50,240 --> 03:16:51,220
I'm feeling quite cautious.

2541
03:16:51,640 --> 03:16:52,300
So it's a matter of fact.

2542
03:16:52,560 --> 03:16:54,700
We so Tony was away.

2543
03:16:54,840 --> 03:16:56,620
Last week, and she wanted to wait.

2544
03:16:56,800 --> 03:16:59,460
I said, no, we have to bring this up to talk to you about it.

2545
03:16:59,560 --> 03:17:02,520
Now, because I can't have fit weighed per two weeks.

2546
03:17:02,720 --> 03:17:04,400
And then another two weeks on top of that.

2547
03:17:04,400 --> 03:17:30,400
So we're bringing this to you now because we know it's a big list, you know there's a big crunch going on right now and we've got to think carefully but I will just remind you that the city has successfully paid down I think it was $13 million in debt over the last few years so the city has got it one of its lowest debt levels that it's ever had but we need to

2548
03:17:31,200 --> 03:17:32,740
I read up on some of the dead.

2549
03:17:32,740 --> 03:17:35,980
One of the things I worry about when I see all these trucks,

2550
03:17:36,380 --> 03:17:38,300
I mean, I know we need some of the stuff, right?

2551
03:17:38,760 --> 03:17:40,420
I'm not arguing at the point.

2552
03:17:42,060 --> 03:17:46,000
But do we need it all at the same time?

2553
03:17:47,120 --> 03:17:50,180
No, we're going to, Chris is going to talk to us about that too.

2554
03:17:50,480 --> 03:17:50,920
He's going to.

2555
03:17:50,920 --> 03:17:53,080
Because I think if you buy all the same time,

2556
03:17:53,180 --> 03:17:56,240
it's all going to go bust at the same time, five years down the road.

2557
03:17:56,420 --> 03:17:59,440
I can, especially after these last couple of years,

2558
03:17:59,440 --> 03:18:02,120
can promise you it won't come in over all at the same time.

2559
03:18:02,760 --> 03:18:11,140
So it took us two plus years to get everything here after we ended it three plus years ago.

2560
03:18:12,000 --> 03:18:13,940
So it took us three plus years to get.

2561
03:18:13,960 --> 03:18:17,660
It will be being purchased at different on different years.

2562
03:18:18,280 --> 03:18:20,720
It will be the same year of model.

2563
03:18:21,140 --> 03:18:24,540
It will be ordered all at one time but there would be.

2564
03:18:24,540 --> 03:18:29,660
And I think Chris is going to be able to show you what he can wait on versus.

2565
03:18:29,880 --> 03:18:30,780
That's something else?

2566
03:18:31,860 --> 03:18:37,560
I know you mentioned in about the intended depth that we have.

2567
03:18:37,880 --> 03:18:38,880
We're going to talk about that.

2568
03:18:39,000 --> 03:18:39,760
That's what you mentioned.

2569
03:18:40,860 --> 03:18:41,000
Yeah.

2570
03:18:41,000 --> 03:18:42,520
I remember that.

2571
03:18:42,520 --> 03:18:42,980
I don't know.

2572
03:18:43,820 --> 03:18:45,100
How many years that you have here?

2573
03:18:45,380 --> 03:18:46,240
Two, three.

2574
03:18:47,200 --> 03:18:48,480
You are in the city.

2575
03:18:48,960 --> 03:18:49,420
Two years?

2576
03:18:49,460 --> 03:18:50,280
Just about three.

2577
03:18:50,700 --> 03:18:50,760
Okay.

2578
03:18:51,020 --> 03:18:51,080
Yeah.

2579
03:18:51,080 --> 03:19:13,980
But there was showing us like the deficit, the entire debt, and when some of the bonds it was ended, I mean, I don't know if the plan that you having for including this is to see how many bonds it would be ending in keeping doing the same payment.

2580
03:19:13,980 --> 03:19:18,660
And I know that the school this way there is something similar for the capital

2581
03:19:18,660 --> 03:19:19,300
project.

2582
03:19:19,620 --> 03:19:26,640
They spend like 11 million dollars for the, for the, for the, the, the, the, the, I mean,

2583
03:19:27,220 --> 03:19:33,100
they finalized one upon and they took it and there was nothing need to increase the taxes and

2584
03:19:33,100 --> 03:19:33,380
anything.

2585
03:19:33,580 --> 03:19:35,460
So they keep in the same payment.

2586
03:19:36,100 --> 03:19:36,240
Right.

2587
03:19:36,340 --> 03:19:40,100
So I don't know if that would be something including this question more.

2588
03:19:40,220 --> 03:19:43,960
Well, that's kind of what Matt was saying as we paid down if you continue to

2589
03:19:43,960 --> 03:19:47,620
that plan to purchase new equipment, the new debt,

2590
03:19:47,800 --> 03:19:49,540
it kind of keeps that level debt

2591
03:19:49,540 --> 03:19:52,020
where you also keep all of your equipment up to date

2592
03:19:52,020 --> 03:19:54,180
and you don't end up with, you know,

2593
03:19:54,360 --> 03:19:55,860
huge repair costs down the road

2594
03:19:55,860 --> 03:19:58,540
or a lack of equipment to get services done.

2595
03:19:58,860 --> 03:20:00,460
Even that their level wouldn't be even,

2596
03:20:00,500 --> 03:20:01,780
I mean, they're in the payments.

2597
03:20:02,020 --> 03:20:03,600
I mean, it may not be equal.

2598
03:20:03,800 --> 03:20:06,420
I mean, what I can also do is I can provide the council

2599
03:20:06,420 --> 03:20:08,580
with that reducing debt schedule again

2600
03:20:08,580 --> 03:20:10,980
to see you can all see where we are

2601
03:20:10,980 --> 03:20:12,880
with the current existing debt.

2602
03:20:12,880 --> 03:20:18,260
And that would be a full financial, so we just finished the third quarter, so we're actually

2603
03:20:18,260 --> 03:20:24,060
I spoke to Matt last week to actually kind of put together where we are, not only looking

2604
03:20:24,060 --> 03:20:29,720
at the depth of kind of where we are financially right now, year to day, and kind of what

2605
03:20:29,720 --> 03:20:35,680
the projection is, and then also to look at our spending, how it's down, and how we move

2606
03:20:35,680 --> 03:20:39,100
forward with this capital plant, so we'll be one hope he's ditched.

2607
03:20:39,100 --> 03:20:47,960
And Tony's coming back two weeks from now to to a budget to actual for the first quarter in a projection.

2608
03:20:48,940 --> 03:20:57,600
So we just we went to take in all this information on just so that you kind of understand where we are out.

2609
03:20:58,040 --> 03:21:05,860
We're going to need not only just the level of debt but the actual payments now because the interest rates are going up.

2610
03:21:05,860 --> 03:21:13,740
And we will include where there's things, we'll take a look at all the capital stuff as what

2611
03:21:13,740 --> 03:21:19,680
our last year's payments were, and I think the payments are almost more important now

2612
03:21:19,680 --> 03:21:24,560
than the total amount of debt, just what is it going to cost us, and then what's the impact

2613
03:21:24,560 --> 03:21:31,520
on the budget, the 2026, and everything the mayor just asked for, it's all kind of come together

2614
03:21:31,520 --> 03:21:35,840
So we're clear before we do a major capital expense, I think.

2615
03:21:36,200 --> 03:21:38,780
And also including that to whatever is a fixed rate,

2616
03:21:39,000 --> 03:21:40,380
because a lot of some of that is fixed rate,

2617
03:21:40,380 --> 03:21:42,180
but it's not changing and what is variable,

2618
03:21:42,380 --> 03:21:44,140
and that kind of stuff when we're looking at the debt.

2619
03:21:45,960 --> 03:21:47,840
I mean, as far as all of the bond payments,

2620
03:21:48,020 --> 03:21:50,140
those are fixed schedules.

2621
03:21:51,260 --> 03:21:53,800
All the lease payments are fixed too, I would guess, right?

2622
03:21:53,920 --> 03:21:54,120
Right.

2623
03:21:55,020 --> 03:21:59,100
So everything we currently have is a fixed rate.

2624
03:21:59,160 --> 03:22:01,500
So thank God the interest rates are not going to be that, yes.

2625
03:22:01,500 --> 03:22:02,880
Thank god.

2626
03:22:05,390 --> 03:22:12,410
Okay. So. That's it for now. Yep, so Chris. I believe you're next, right?

2627
03:22:14,010 --> 03:22:18,290
Thank you. Thank you, Tony. Yeah, thank you.

2628
03:22:21,370 --> 03:22:23,430
You're being good evening, Mayor. Deputy Mayor,

2629
03:22:23,430 --> 03:22:30,550
Council members and sitting manager. For no to one to 19. We're going to one to one. No, for one to 19.

2630
03:22:37,610 --> 03:22:54,950
Okay, okay, so I have a few items on the agenda that I'd like to discuss with the council tonight and the first one being the list of equipment and some of those at the bottom as you saw are for the building main as the parliament as well.

2631
03:22:54,950 --> 03:22:59,350
So there's these are items that are needed by the DPW.

2632
03:23:00,370 --> 03:23:06,010
There is a total of 2,490,000.

2633
03:23:06,150 --> 03:23:10,170
So if you have any questions in particular about any of the equipment there,

2634
03:23:10,250 --> 03:23:11,530
I can answer that.

2635
03:23:13,070 --> 03:23:13,670
Just note.

2636
03:23:15,030 --> 03:23:19,910
So the first three items would not be delivered in 1226.

2637
03:23:19,910 --> 03:23:30,890
And so there is a, there is a way that the city could finance those in 2026, but order them now and pay for them through a lease in the future.

2638
03:23:31,370 --> 03:23:33,510
So those are all, those are all leaseable items.

2639
03:23:33,730 --> 03:23:37,190
Those are everything when has Chris's list here is feasible.

2640
03:23:38,070 --> 03:23:39,850
Well, except for capital lease.

2641
03:23:41,050 --> 03:23:41,930
Which except for which?

2642
03:23:41,990 --> 03:23:43,310
I guess there's nothing improvement.

2643
03:23:43,790 --> 03:23:45,430
Except for the building improvement items.

2644
03:23:45,430 --> 03:23:54,130
The cameras, the lighting improvements, the replacing the elevator, repairs to the elevator, storm ward, repairs those are not leaseable items.

2645
03:23:54,730 --> 03:24:01,470
I think we could get equipment, at least for those who will tell me we will.

2646
03:24:01,650 --> 03:24:08,930
You can lease anything with a life of a certain amount.

2647
03:24:08,930 --> 03:24:10,810
This is a finance thing tool.

2648
03:24:11,130 --> 03:24:14,690
It's not a, so it's not, it doesn't have to be strictly vehicle.

2649
03:24:16,130 --> 03:24:21,270
A useful life of a dump truck, sometimes those are bonded, I think, but I'm not saying

2650
03:24:21,270 --> 03:24:26,490
it's a good idea to do it, but everything else I'm seeing here, I think, I agree on this

2651
03:24:26,490 --> 03:24:27,450
at least.

2652
03:24:27,790 --> 03:24:28,230
Chris?

2653
03:24:28,610 --> 03:24:28,810
Okay.

2654
03:24:29,110 --> 03:24:31,830
I want to ask about the elevator in the neighborhood center.

2655
03:24:32,010 --> 03:24:32,350
Yes.

2656
03:24:32,450 --> 03:24:38,410
Is it saying replacement elevator for the neighborhood center $200,000 to replace it, not

2657
03:24:38,410 --> 03:24:46,930
repair it. So there's that line actually should say that it's going to cover the 200 will cover

2658
03:24:46,930 --> 03:24:52,790
both the nutrition center and also the courts, which is the place in the courts. Both elevators

2659
03:24:52,790 --> 03:25:00,570
are very, very old. They're very similar in making model and the issue that we're having with both

2660
03:25:00,570 --> 03:25:07,410
of those elevators is all about the controls. So 100,000 dollars each will cover the controls.

2661
03:25:07,410 --> 03:25:12,070
It's not going to be a replacement of the shaft or the car or any of those things.

2662
03:25:12,450 --> 03:25:13,610
It's going to be a big step.

2663
03:25:13,950 --> 03:25:14,290
The button.

2664
03:25:14,430 --> 03:25:16,450
And that's what's failing is the control.

2665
03:25:16,610 --> 03:25:17,350
That's correct.

2666
03:25:17,410 --> 03:25:19,890
So if all that other stuff doesn't have to be replaced.

2667
03:25:19,910 --> 03:25:20,410
That's right.

2668
03:25:21,110 --> 03:25:26,470
The shaft is selling good shape in the car and we'll let me be, you know, that's what we're going to do.

2669
03:25:26,470 --> 03:25:27,690
That's a plus then.

2670
03:25:28,050 --> 03:25:28,410
That's good.

2671
03:25:28,430 --> 03:25:31,990
That's good news because at one point I thought the whole thing had to be replaced.

2672
03:25:32,450 --> 03:25:33,290
That's good news.

2673
03:25:33,350 --> 03:25:34,130
That is good news.

2674
03:25:34,910 --> 03:25:36,750
I have other good news about it.

2675
03:25:36,750 --> 03:25:43,190
I'd, the planning department informed me today that there was a grant that's been a boarded

2676
03:25:43,190 --> 03:25:49,450
for 47,000 in regards to the elevator, so that, that, that, that, that will help cover

2677
03:25:50,030 --> 03:25:50,550
that.

2678
03:25:50,650 --> 03:25:51,390
That's $200.

2679
03:25:51,930 --> 03:25:52,890
Well, this goes through.

2680
03:25:53,070 --> 03:25:55,750
When would that elevator be replaced?

2681
03:25:56,710 --> 03:26:00,630
We can, we can award that pretty much right away.

2682
03:26:01,530 --> 03:26:04,830
I'd have to get a lead time, but it would be, at some point, this year.

2683
03:26:05,330 --> 03:26:05,450
But.

2684
03:26:05,450 --> 03:26:16,130
Yes. Thank you. Okay, so now what are our garbage AI cameras? Okay, so we are right now

2685
03:26:16,130 --> 03:26:23,390
there's a set of cameras that we're looking at. We're talking to a vendor. These are AI cameras.

2686
03:26:23,750 --> 03:26:32,790
They have the ability to learn what they're looking at. So if we want to target if we want the

2687
03:26:32,790 --> 03:26:38,930
to learn to pick up illegal garbage that's getting put out that the camera would

2688
03:26:38,930 --> 03:26:45,710
learn that and make notifications and then there's also some vehicle traffic

2689
03:26:45,710 --> 03:26:50,570
components to that as well. So that is something that we're just looking into at this

2690
03:26:50,570 --> 03:26:53,270
point. And that would be pretty reliable.

2691
03:26:55,490 --> 03:26:57,270
That's what they tell me and I think

2692
03:26:57,270 --> 03:27:02,010
to have to do some of our research and, you know, show that before.

2693
03:27:02,490 --> 03:27:04,550
That sounds like a great idea.

2694
03:27:06,030 --> 03:27:12,190
Chris, I've been having, as you know, a lot of garbage and litter on the second street

2695
03:27:12,190 --> 03:27:18,350
that I've afforded, and it's did get cleaned up, but I see a starting to build up again.

2696
03:27:19,190 --> 03:27:19,790
Very frustrating.

2697
03:27:20,910 --> 03:27:22,050
When we were.

2698
03:27:22,190 --> 03:27:22,610
Takes.

2699
03:27:23,970 --> 03:27:25,110
Just to put it bluntly.

2700
03:27:25,110 --> 03:27:30,050
Back to your list. The excavator with the trailer, the loader claw, the four and one bucket.

2701
03:27:30,950 --> 03:27:31,050
Yes.

2702
03:27:31,090 --> 03:27:35,150
As soon as all go together, the flailing, the fire, the attachment.

2703
03:27:36,210 --> 03:27:40,750
That all part of the, the flail more attachment can go with the excavator.

2704
03:27:41,210 --> 03:27:45,150
That is, that is a piece of equipment that we rent every year at this point.

2705
03:27:45,890 --> 03:27:49,830
And it kind of, you know, the growth builds up to a point.

2706
03:27:50,050 --> 03:27:54,330
We rent the machine and go around the whole entire city and including the riverfront.

2707
03:27:54,330 --> 03:27:59,470
So the loader, the loader claw goes with the excavator, the loader claw would go on the

2708
03:27:59,470 --> 03:28:01,930
Articulating loader, which is different than the exit.

2709
03:28:02,470 --> 03:28:02,770
Yes.

2710
03:28:03,130 --> 03:28:10,250
So the four and one bucket and the loader claw, those two items would go on the Articulating

2711
03:28:10,250 --> 03:28:13,410
loader, which we have two of those loaders already.

2712
03:28:13,550 --> 03:28:15,830
How often do we use a 10-wheel dump truck?

2713
03:28:16,410 --> 03:28:20,310
The 10-wheel dump truck is used every time that we pay.

2714
03:28:21,090 --> 03:28:28,230
So it's paving, it's for paving, the paving, the truck that we have right now, we have

2715
03:28:28,230 --> 03:28:36,350
two 10-wheel, if the truck's for paving, one of them is not usable at all because if you put

2716
03:28:36,350 --> 03:28:41,890
any paving in it, it would just fall out of the side. That's how rodded it is. And the other

2717
03:28:41,890 --> 03:28:47,090
one I was looking at this morning with our mechanic, and the frame is actually cracked in a

2718
03:28:47,090 --> 03:28:54,710
places so that is starting to become a safety issue and a lot of these are, that's why they're

2719
03:28:54,710 --> 03:29:01,310
on the left. Is there anything on this list you could do without? Just curious. There's nothing

2720
03:29:01,310 --> 03:29:06,590
that we can do without or could I think we can, would you longest lead potential to wait?

2721
03:29:07,050 --> 03:29:14,770
If we had, I could probably say there's a few items that we can, that we can push to next year

2722
03:29:15,590 --> 03:29:26,370
And then of course the first three items, you know, we'd be looking toward of them this year and we wouldn't receive them until next year and maybe even further.

2723
03:29:27,150 --> 03:29:28,810
What's a Falcon Hotbox?

2724
03:29:29,890 --> 03:29:33,670
the Falcon Hotbox is a Z, Z, Z, um, asshole.

2725
03:29:33,890 --> 03:29:34,310
That's great.

2726
03:29:34,450 --> 03:29:35,370
It's for asphalt.

2727
03:29:35,870 --> 03:29:35,990
Correct.

2728
03:29:36,010 --> 03:29:36,810
Could you ass fall?

2729
03:29:37,150 --> 03:29:38,090
Keep your ass down, Florida.

2730
03:29:38,850 --> 03:29:39,930
So why is it hotbox?

2731
03:29:40,250 --> 03:29:41,110
That's right, I'm falling.

2732
03:29:41,110 --> 03:29:41,190
All right, I'm falling.

2733
03:29:41,190 --> 03:29:41,930
You said that first.

2734
03:29:42,550 --> 03:29:44,490
I said that.

2735
03:29:44,590 --> 03:29:45,030
Okay.

2736
03:29:46,830 --> 03:29:48,070
Um, I hear might last questions.

2737
03:29:48,430 --> 03:29:49,110
What do we know?

2738
03:29:49,230 --> 03:29:51,210
The stormwater repairs to Hamilton Avenue.

2739
03:29:51,510 --> 03:29:52,410
What is that?

2740
03:29:52,430 --> 03:29:54,210
Those basins are

2741
03:29:54,210 --> 03:29:59,770
What's in the issue on Hamilton Avenue and we have done some work there?

2742
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:26,800
And I'm going to say it's over a year ago at this point. That has, we ran one line. If you're going up the hill on the left and the left hand side, as soon as we got done with that repair, we started seeing that there was collapses further downstream in the underground piping. That's a, that's a 24 inch pipe. It's, it's corrugated metal pipe, which rocks from the bottom up.

2743
03:30:26,800 --> 03:30:28,620
Got it. Thank you.

2744
03:30:32,660 --> 03:30:33,260
Anybody else?

2745
03:30:34,160 --> 03:30:34,180
Yes.

2746
03:30:37,620 --> 03:30:38,180
I...

2747
03:30:38,180 --> 03:30:40,020
Well, let me follow the question.

2748
03:30:42,140 --> 03:30:44,020
Cathy, say about the...

2749
03:30:44,020 --> 03:30:45,260
You mentioned in the camera.

2750
03:30:46,860 --> 03:30:49,160
They have us on kind of AI.

2751
03:30:50,180 --> 03:30:52,160
But that would be like a mobile camera.

2752
03:30:52,580 --> 03:30:53,040
Like a...

2753
03:30:53,040 --> 03:30:56,100
Can you put in permanent one place or an open one?

2754
03:30:56,240 --> 03:30:58,980
Like, what is that idea for that to have a mobile

2755
03:30:58,980 --> 03:31:01,220
in different places,

2756
03:31:04,360 --> 03:31:08,900
it might have the ability to be moved, it would certainly need to be installed

2757
03:31:08,900 --> 03:31:12,160
wherever the chosen locations are.

2758
03:31:15,260 --> 03:31:18,220
But I think you have the ability to move afterwards and

2759
03:31:18,220 --> 03:31:23,660
reinstall it. And because I was talking about that, I mean, you weren't talking about the

2760
03:31:23,660 --> 03:31:30,500
of abandon to have that kind of equipment that we can follow people who dump with some kind of

2761
03:31:30,500 --> 03:31:36,660
camera. I mean, there will be need to have like an ordinance before to move forward with these

2762
03:31:36,660 --> 03:31:43,620
or like, well, you need an ordinance prohibiting illegal dumping of garbage. I'm talking about

2763
03:31:43,620 --> 03:31:51,200
for use of the camera as something for follow the people or not. I would think the camera could

2764
03:31:51,200 --> 03:31:55,220
We used, if we're for prosecutions, I don't see why not.

2765
03:31:55,260 --> 03:31:57,120
I don't know if you'd have to amend the ordinance

2766
03:31:57,120 --> 03:31:59,100
to say it can be prosecuted.

2767
03:31:59,860 --> 03:32:02,000
And we didn't like to lie someplace or something like that.

2768
03:32:02,880 --> 03:32:04,640
I'd have to look into it, but I'm a slip.

2769
03:32:05,560 --> 03:32:10,320
We use cameras to record violations on many different types

2770
03:32:11,100 --> 03:32:13,500
of different ordinances.

2771
03:32:13,860 --> 03:32:17,200
So I'm thinking that it could be used for enforcing

2772
03:32:17,200 --> 03:32:18,820
illegal dumping as well.

2773
03:32:18,820 --> 03:32:28,440
All right, if we have that a good identification and there's a way to, to definitely identify who did the dumping, then that would be appropriate, if it's just a license plate.

2774
03:32:28,920 --> 03:32:33,660
I don't know if you could go after the owner of a vehicle for having dumped the garbage.

2775
03:32:33,820 --> 03:32:35,740
That may require an ordinance.

2776
03:32:35,940 --> 03:32:37,320
That would be nice if we have a garbage.

2777
03:32:37,560 --> 03:32:43,540
That may require an ordinance amendment to say the owner of a vehicle, which is dumping it could be liable.

2778
03:32:44,560 --> 03:32:47,560
Because if you don't know who's actually driving the vehicle, that's the problem.

2779
03:32:47,560 --> 03:32:55,320
So, I know, but I said that because I mentioned that even in the police and the hard thing

2780
03:32:55,320 --> 03:33:01,100
it would be identified like the faces and recognize and then you will be no able to follow it.

2781
03:33:01,240 --> 03:33:04,820
It would have to be the honor of the vehicle and we probably have to do an amendment to the ordinance

2782
03:33:04,820 --> 03:33:09,560
to say a good evaluation could go against the honor of the vehicle who is shown to be dumping.

2783
03:33:10,300 --> 03:33:17,540
I like that, you know, it would be nice and the other thing about, well, we are talking

2784
03:33:17,540 --> 03:33:27,540
hear about least, but how is it going to be there, and I'm like for, because for the first one,

2785
03:33:28,020 --> 03:33:37,540
for the four rifles, no blow, there's 380,000, but that amount is like the least for a long,

2786
03:33:38,140 --> 03:33:43,580
and how it's going to be working. So the way this works, the last time we did this,

2787
03:33:43,580 --> 03:33:51,720
is we've got a list of all of the items that we're purchasing and we go over each item

2788
03:33:51,720 --> 03:33:54,900
and we talk about the useful life and they're all different.

2789
03:33:55,100 --> 03:34:07,740
They go from 3, 5, 7, 10 years, the most likely we'll be having of these time for these

2790
03:34:07,740 --> 03:34:11,140
amounts, these are put inside a life that we're going to use it, I don't know if we can

2791
03:34:11,140 --> 03:34:18,060
five years for that one. So we the turn the least term it's definitely less than

2792
03:34:18,060 --> 03:34:22,240
a useful life obviously everybody can see that because we've kept some trucks for

2793
03:34:23,120 --> 03:34:26,600
20. So not a least in a term like if we're least in a car and they'll give it back

2794
03:34:26,600 --> 03:34:31,700
that's not this we all own it. We want to say least term but we actually own. Okay.

2795
03:34:31,960 --> 03:34:41,120
Yeah it's a capital these it's a it's financing. I imagine that because when you

2796
03:34:41,120 --> 03:34:44,020
When you see that number three on the 80s, or for at least.

2797
03:34:44,020 --> 03:34:45,940
But no, you are on it.

2798
03:34:46,060 --> 03:34:46,300
Okay.

2799
03:34:46,820 --> 03:34:48,000
We are buying that.

2800
03:34:48,500 --> 03:34:52,320
And we had to spend that thing in 2020 season.

2801
03:34:52,580 --> 03:34:55,120
And you also, 2025 for this year, like it.

2802
03:34:56,300 --> 03:35:06,440
Because someone also was to do 1.57 million in 2025 and 920,000 in 2020, 2006.

2803
03:35:06,580 --> 03:35:06,740
Right.

2804
03:35:07,560 --> 03:35:08,800
So let me just ask you something.

2805
03:35:08,800 --> 03:35:13,520
with the first three items up here, these are items that you know that we definitely need.

2806
03:35:14,060 --> 03:35:22,120
I kind of get to feeling that this is not like a list that's stuff that we've looked at,

2807
03:35:22,320 --> 03:35:26,820
we know what it does, we know what it is, but this is kind of a list with a ballpark and numbers.

2808
03:35:27,740 --> 03:35:32,920
So when we get ready to kind of look at this stuff, I think the council would need to have a real

2809
03:35:32,920 --> 03:35:37,900
actual list of stuff that you've looked at that you want to buy and really know what the cost is

2810
03:35:37,900 --> 03:35:42,760
And when we would want to order it and kind of like in order of what we would need.

2811
03:35:43,280 --> 03:35:47,080
So you're telling us these first three things that are a priority at the top.

2812
03:35:47,180 --> 03:35:47,740
Is that correct?

2813
03:35:48,280 --> 03:35:49,140
These are priority.

2814
03:35:49,140 --> 03:35:52,080
The first three do happen to be the priority.

2815
03:35:52,920 --> 03:35:57,260
But that's just kind of a coincidence because those are three items that have really long

2816
03:35:57,260 --> 03:35:57,980
lead times.

2817
03:35:58,500 --> 03:36:07,140
We have looked at everything, a lot of these items, and it's not just me that's looking

2818
03:36:07,140 --> 03:36:14,500
in the foot reform and are looking at them, these items are safety items and particularly

2819
03:36:14,500 --> 03:36:19,620
the ones that I looked at this morning, so there are, there are some that we have in our

2820
03:36:19,620 --> 03:36:30,060
mind that we can push off to perhaps a year but we're still recommending that they get bored

2821
03:36:30,600 --> 03:36:32,720
if not this year, the next year.

2822
03:36:32,720 --> 03:36:36,340
But I'm not doubting that, that's not what I'm saying.

2823
03:36:37,060 --> 03:36:44,880
What the council needs is to know what the priority is for these aren'ting, and then what exactly do you do?

2824
03:36:45,600 --> 03:36:48,060
Councilwoman Talbot asks you about these AI cameras.

2825
03:36:48,600 --> 03:36:52,520
Councilwoman Fernandez asks you about, we need to know that you know exactly what these do,

2826
03:36:52,660 --> 03:36:55,980
and how they're going to fit into the city and what we need them for.

2827
03:36:56,480 --> 03:37:01,360
I think that will give people more of a feeling of how urgent it is for these things.

2828
03:37:01,360 --> 03:37:05,640
You tell us what the priority is for your department and why you kind of need them.

2829
03:37:06,980 --> 03:37:10,220
I mean, I mean, I have a wish list of, we all have a wish list.

2830
03:37:10,220 --> 03:37:16,200
Every department has a wish list of things that we need to know, what you really need first.

2831
03:37:16,260 --> 03:37:16,420
Right.

2832
03:37:17,140 --> 03:37:21,200
After looking at the lead times and how long you think it's going to be.

2833
03:37:21,600 --> 03:37:31,340
And then kind of how these are going to fit into your time frame of making sure that everyone is safe and has the equipment that they need to do the job that we want them to do.

2834
03:37:31,340 --> 03:37:36,420
you know. So that's not the question. I just think we need more information on the items.

2835
03:37:36,840 --> 03:37:41,700
Okay. Okay. All right. So let's the priorities which we, you know, I can present to you.

2836
03:37:41,780 --> 03:37:46,440
I'll do that with you. Priority. You know, what you need to order first because of time frames

2837
03:37:46,440 --> 03:37:49,700
and knowing that you're not going to get it for a year or two years, three years, type it

2838
03:37:49,700 --> 03:37:56,580
that. And then kind of what these items are and kind of be able to talk to somebody's questions

2839
03:37:56,580 --> 03:38:00,820
as the what they are and how they kind of fit into what we're doing in the city.

2840
03:38:01,300 --> 03:38:31,320
Okay, we'll put together a list with each item at a description and we'll give you a little purple description for each one and prioritize them and because I think we all know what a snow plow is and and it goes on the dump truck and stuff like that, but some of these other things we we we kind of need a little more what we would also be helpful to add the usable life to that map and making that list how long these

2841
03:38:31,340 --> 03:38:37,300
items are going to last us we'll give you and also the budget information like a

2842
03:38:37,300 --> 03:38:44,780
that's spending and per year how is going to be finance so how much you pay on the

2843
03:38:44,780 --> 03:38:50,440
lease. Yeah yeah you know to the prior talk priorities that he's going to show and tell

2844
03:38:50,440 --> 03:38:56,480
the ones like and if we have a budgeting or just going to be bombed or how is that going to be.

2845
03:38:56,680 --> 03:39:01,040
And the goal is to do this off in one so that it's one lease agreement right now.

2846
03:39:01,040 --> 03:39:17,040
But we don't want to keep going paying a finance fee because every group, so it's better for us to work together and get police vehicles, Jonathan's vehicles altogether and sort of have a plan.

2847
03:39:18,460 --> 03:39:20,520
So, probably we're going to...

2848
03:39:20,520 --> 03:39:21,560
It would be nice.

2849
03:39:22,020 --> 03:39:25,100
Sorry, yeah, I know it's allowed, but I...

2850
03:39:25,100 --> 03:39:29,780
To have a bit of a information on the thing, how we're going to be managed and it would be more clear.

2851
03:39:30,500 --> 03:39:50,900
Yeah, so this is strategic two weeks from now, you're going to see get a sense of where we were last year, although it's not for not done with the audit, but you're going to get a sense of you're going to know where we end at the quarter when you're going to get a projection of where we think the end of the year is going to be.

2852
03:39:50,900 --> 03:39:58,540
And then at that point, I'll ask Tony to add to a debt projection for the future.

2853
03:39:59,980 --> 03:40:04,040
And we usually do, so you'll get some projected numbers next year.

2854
03:40:04,420 --> 03:40:06,680
Next, Cal, at the next, Cal.

2855
03:40:08,080 --> 03:40:09,320
Any other questions?

2856
03:40:09,540 --> 03:40:10,140
Would you turn it up?

2857
03:40:10,740 --> 03:40:11,460
All right, now.

2858
03:40:11,780 --> 03:40:11,880
Okay.

2859
03:40:11,880 --> 03:40:12,720
When else you got birth?

2860
03:40:13,260 --> 03:40:19,080
Okay, so next item is in regards to the 2025 landscape and program.

2861
03:40:19,880 --> 03:40:25,260
And in the last Calvada that we presented where we requested

2862
03:40:25,260 --> 03:40:29,220
recommendations go out to bed, it was asked that we keep the

2863
03:40:29,220 --> 03:40:32,760
council updated on the time frame and the schedule.

2864
03:40:34,500 --> 03:40:37,600
So currently the package is on the streets.

2865
03:40:37,800 --> 03:40:38,500
It's out to bed.

2866
03:40:39,160 --> 03:40:42,580
We will be opening bids this Wednesday at 10 a.m.

2867
03:40:43,480 --> 03:40:46,020
We'll receive the bids open and read them publicly.

2868
03:40:46,020 --> 03:40:53,380
that the DW at that point will do a bit analysis, and we anticipate that we would be recommending

2869
03:40:53,380 --> 03:41:01,320
the most responsible, lowest bidder, and we'll bring that to the minicow next week on

2870
03:41:01,320 --> 03:41:02,320
April 14th.

2871
03:41:03,500 --> 03:41:04,120
Any questions?

2872
03:41:04,840 --> 03:41:05,200
I'm sorry.

2873
03:41:06,120 --> 03:41:06,420
I'm sorry.

2874
03:41:06,440 --> 03:41:06,900
I'm sorry.

2875
03:41:07,340 --> 03:41:14,100
So assuming that the council would pass that resolution, we will award the contract that would

2876
03:41:14,100 --> 03:41:21,640
about mid-April and planting would start in the beginning of May in the first two weeks of May.

2877
03:41:23,280 --> 03:41:27,140
You have a lot of people pick up on a business.

2878
03:41:27,900 --> 03:41:34,400
There was quite a number on Bidnet that picked up and then there was a handful of that picked

2879
03:41:34,400 --> 03:41:43,440
up locally, so I had not to say that Bidnet was not locally either, but so we have a few.

2880
03:41:43,440 --> 03:41:56,240
I don't know how many to, you know, I don't know how many beds to anticipate, but pretty quick turnaround for a bit, but hopefully it is, yeah, we're trying to get it for this year.

2881
03:41:56,900 --> 03:41:57,580
Yeah, we're trying to get it for this year.

2882
03:41:57,860 --> 03:42:02,400
We did have it out for the full 10 days, so that was good.

2883
03:42:04,510 --> 03:42:05,470
Are you what else?

2884
03:42:06,150 --> 03:42:06,170
Okay.

2885
03:42:08,880 --> 03:42:09,360
Lastly,

2886
03:42:11,700 --> 03:42:16,680
I would like to give an update on cleanup events in Toronto, which I give.

2887
03:42:19,520 --> 03:42:25,920
I want to give you an update on cleanup events that are hosted by the City of Peac scale.

2888
03:42:26,380 --> 03:42:31,800
So the City of Peac scale is inviting all individuals and members of the community to join the DPW

2889
03:42:32,740 --> 03:42:37,280
and scheduling cleanup days with your cleanup group with their cleanup group.

2890
03:42:37,740 --> 03:42:44,520
There is a file flyer and a link that will allow groups to sign up online.

2891
03:42:45,680 --> 03:43:10,700
So any group would provide your contact number online, I have many people are coming to the group which Saturday there's a number of Saturdays that are on that for options that they can choose and what type of cleanup they would like to be doing so in other words where in the city or which park if it's roadside cleanup what type of cleanup that they and their group would want to do.

2892
03:43:10,700 --> 03:43:17,140
Now, if there are individuals that want to do not have a group, but want to join a group,

2893
03:43:17,780 --> 03:43:23,480
we would try to incorporate them in a group so that they can be scheduled on one of those days.

2894
03:43:24,840 --> 03:43:29,140
There's also a number of other teams of events that are hosted by others.

2895
03:43:31,120 --> 03:43:38,640
We have Arbor Day, which is going to take place in a couple of Saturdays that's April 26,

2896
03:43:40,000 --> 03:43:42,760
with Jonathan's Moora and the Parks and Rec staff.

2897
03:43:43,280 --> 03:43:46,580
They'll be starting at 8 a.m. and going to 1130,

2898
03:43:46,820 --> 03:43:48,280
that starts at the next.

2899
03:43:48,280 --> 03:43:48,780
What's that, Dave?

2900
03:43:49,320 --> 03:43:50,040
Why do you throw up?

2901
03:43:50,200 --> 03:43:54,140
That's going to be April 26th in two Saturdays.

2902
03:43:54,280 --> 03:43:55,600
Eight o'clock to 1130.

2903
03:43:55,600 --> 03:43:56,600
Over the end, on the calendar.

2904
03:43:56,620 --> 03:43:59,900
That'll start at the depue parking and down at the roof from

2905
03:43:59,900 --> 03:44:04,540
the dog park community also has their cleanup day on the

2906
03:44:04,540 --> 03:44:06,860
20 seconds as well, the same day.

2907
03:44:06,860 --> 03:44:12,640
River keepers will have there and you'll clean up the ban and pick

2908
03:44:12,640 --> 03:44:16,980
peak skill clean routine also is planning on meeting regularly this is the

2909
03:44:16,980 --> 03:44:25,460
seat of them so. I have a request. It's not in anything you said but the

2910
03:44:25,460 --> 03:44:34,200
butterfly push has got decimated by our, okay, roaming people, and got cut right

2911
03:44:34,200 --> 03:44:41,880
to the ground. That's important. We have to grow them back and labeled, I mean, there was

2912
03:44:41,880 --> 03:44:47,060
a sign there, so I don't know what the problem was, but they were like levels. So I,

2913
03:44:47,080 --> 03:44:52,680
but I'm urging you to get them back up and running. Okay, that's a lot of contact. It may

2914
03:44:52,680 --> 03:44:57,600
about that. Okay, I have not heard about that, but yeah, let me look at that. This is the

2915
03:44:57,600 --> 03:44:58,540
I don't know, it's a butterfly.

2916
03:44:59,780 --> 03:44:59,860
Yeah.

2917
03:45:00,620 --> 03:45:15,160
The Monarch butterflies. I think there were little signs down there and everything. So I was sort of baffled when I saw it, but then I was trying to get a phone call, so thank you. I appreciate it. And by the way,

2918
03:45:15,160 --> 03:45:18,880
who knows on the food scraps, little.

2919
03:45:19,300 --> 03:45:20,080
Oh, yes.

2920
03:45:20,900 --> 03:45:21,400
Yeah.

2921
03:45:22,020 --> 03:45:26,360
Sheldon that they have for the whole job, very nice, Sheldon.

2922
03:45:26,440 --> 03:45:28,020
The D.B.W. staff, that's a great job.

2923
03:45:28,140 --> 03:45:28,660
Thank you.

2924
03:45:28,980 --> 03:45:30,160
Yeah, please, please, my.

2925
03:45:32,250 --> 03:45:32,550
OK.

2926
03:45:32,670 --> 03:45:34,190
OK, is that thank you, Chris?

2927
03:45:34,530 --> 03:45:34,650
Thank you.

2928
03:45:34,650 --> 03:45:35,290
Thank you so much.

2929
03:45:36,170 --> 03:45:36,810
That's nice.

2930
03:45:37,210 --> 03:45:42,270
There is a memo in here to about the police

2931
03:45:44,150 --> 03:45:47,450
vehicles, I don't know if I got scubbed.

2932
03:45:51,330 --> 03:45:54,470
Yes, so you see, so there's a memo added in.

2933
03:45:55,150 --> 03:45:56,390
Do you see that one?

2934
03:45:56,470 --> 03:45:56,770
Yes.

2935
03:45:57,870 --> 03:46:00,410
Those are the ones that were included in the capital plan.

2936
03:46:00,690 --> 03:46:03,170
That's normal every year purchase.

2937
03:46:04,650 --> 03:46:06,490
But we'll come back to you and talk to you more about that.

2938
03:46:06,490 --> 03:46:07,030
Go ahead, girl.

2939
03:46:07,330 --> 03:46:10,430
Also curious why it's a 2023 vehicle, because it's supposed to

2940
03:46:10,430 --> 03:46:11,010
do a new vehicle.

2941
03:46:11,670 --> 03:46:14,330
You could add that to your list to tell us later.

2942
03:46:14,330 --> 03:46:15,630
Should that be 2025?

2943
03:46:17,110 --> 03:46:17,530
Oh, okay.

2944
03:46:17,570 --> 03:46:18,650
So we'll explain the later.

2945
03:46:18,850 --> 03:46:19,690
I'm saving you money.

2946
03:46:19,930 --> 03:46:20,430
I'm a deeper.

2947
03:46:20,950 --> 03:46:21,330
Okay.

2948
03:46:21,890 --> 03:46:22,570
I don't believe you.

2949
03:46:25,260 --> 03:46:26,080
Is it out tires?

2950
03:46:26,560 --> 03:46:26,760
Yeah.

2951
03:46:27,160 --> 03:46:28,080
Just hearing well?

2952
03:46:28,840 --> 03:46:29,360
Okay girl.

2953
03:46:30,320 --> 03:46:30,900
Good evening.

2954
03:46:31,340 --> 03:46:31,420
Hi there.

2955
03:46:31,720 --> 03:46:32,940
This is mayor and council.

2956
03:46:33,480 --> 03:46:34,540
Marathon here.

2957
03:46:36,400 --> 03:46:38,080
We have three items from planning.

2958
03:46:38,540 --> 03:46:41,880
I want to first introduce the James Street Garage public interest

2959
03:46:41,880 --> 03:46:50,020
just to kind of explain why we're at this point even though, you know, we don't even have final designs or

2960
03:46:50,020 --> 03:46:51,900
have done anything really for the garage.

2961
03:46:53,740 --> 03:47:07,420
We have applied to the County HIF, the Housing Implementation Fund for Partial Funding for the James Street Garage in response to 41 North Division.

2962
03:47:07,420 --> 03:47:22,780
The County Planning Commission agreed to make a recommendation to the County Board of Legislators in May for $1.8 million to cover 22 spaces in the garage for 41 north division.

2963
03:47:23,460 --> 03:47:29,740
But for the Board of Legislators to act, they need us to have conducted environmental review.

2964
03:47:29,740 --> 03:47:36,920
And for us to conduct environmental review, we need to kind of take these steps that we're

2965
03:47:36,920 --> 03:47:43,840
proposing today of the first of which is the public interest determination and then the

2966
03:47:43,840 --> 03:47:50,580
second of which is to concur that the planning commission would be the lead for environmental

2967
03:47:50,580 --> 03:47:56,640
review purposes given that they have slight plan review, the most comprehensive review look

2968
03:47:56,640 --> 03:48:03,000
at the new garage, while we don't have, you know, final designs for the garage, we have

2969
03:48:03,000 --> 03:48:08,980
conceptual designs, we have, you know, work from our engineers to the, we can have an estimation

2970
03:48:08,980 --> 03:48:16,500
of the number of spaces and general designs that the garage would look like the height, et cetera.

2971
03:48:18,300 --> 03:48:23,820
And, Eric, I don't know if you would like to say a word about public interest determination for the

2972
03:48:23,820 --> 03:48:43,060
So, as I explained with respect to the solar floating solar facility, the James D. garage, even though there is an existing garage in that district, which I believe it's the C2 central commercial zoning district, apparently parking grudges are not permitted to use in that zone.

2973
03:48:43,060 --> 03:48:50,720
And so, in order to proceed, because, again, this is on city property, we had recommended

2974
03:48:50,720 --> 03:48:56,000
that the Council consider a public interest determination with respect to the garage.

2975
03:48:56,580 --> 03:49:00,600
Even though there is an existing garage, because it's an expansion, the existing garage

2976
03:49:00,600 --> 03:49:05,060
is probably considered a prior legal non-conforming use, but you cannot technically expand

2977
03:49:05,060 --> 03:49:07,040
a prior legal non-conforming use.

2978
03:49:07,040 --> 03:49:15,520
So this we thought was the best way to justify the exemption from or allowing the project

2979
03:49:15,520 --> 03:49:19,300
to go forward by exempting the expansion of the garage from zoning.

2980
03:49:19,940 --> 03:49:25,640
And again, in this case, certainly a garage for public parking, the public is clearly a public

2981
03:49:25,640 --> 03:49:26,120
purpose.

2982
03:49:26,720 --> 03:49:29,100
It is going to go through site plan and SQL review.

2983
03:49:30,340 --> 03:49:31,840
It is an existing garage there.

2984
03:49:31,980 --> 03:49:32,980
You're just expanding it.

2985
03:49:33,380 --> 03:49:35,380
I believe over relatively the same footprint.

2986
03:49:35,680 --> 03:49:36,180
I'm not sure how.

2987
03:49:37,640 --> 03:49:41,660
There's existing lot that will have the parking problem.

2988
03:49:41,940 --> 03:49:42,580
So there's existing...

2989
03:49:43,180 --> 03:49:43,780
Yeah.

2990
03:49:44,080 --> 03:49:46,460
There's existing paid lot that has the footprint.

2991
03:49:47,380 --> 03:49:51,280
You know, as we know, there's limited parking within peak skill,

2992
03:49:51,500 --> 03:49:54,340
so there's not, there aren't any really other areas,

2993
03:49:54,380 --> 03:50:00,860
which could be recommended for this type of expanded parking area.

2994
03:50:00,860 --> 03:50:08,280
So we're going to be presenting a resolution going through the nine factors under the county of Monroe Test,

2995
03:50:08,720 --> 03:50:11,520
which we believe are satisfied.

2996
03:50:11,740 --> 03:50:16,980
It satisfies the public interest determination given the factors I just ran through.

2997
03:50:18,140 --> 03:50:26,380
So that's really where we are and we'll be seeking that that's similar determination to what we talked about floating solar with respect to the James Greek or Raj.

2998
03:50:26,380 --> 03:50:31,600
Again, because it's on city property, it gives the city the authority to exempt it from certain zoning.

2999
03:50:32,920 --> 03:50:34,020
What's the timing on that, Eric?

3000
03:50:34,680 --> 03:50:37,500
When are we doing that? Next, we...

3001
03:50:37,500 --> 03:50:39,380
Yeah, we'll have a resolution for you next week.

3002
03:50:39,880 --> 03:50:42,000
But not something we would need to public hearing.

3003
03:50:42,640 --> 03:50:44,680
No, no public hearing required for that.

3004
03:50:47,110 --> 03:50:51,530
I mean, if somebody could challenge it within the four-month period,

3005
03:50:52,050 --> 03:50:54,610
they have for challenging legislative determinations.

3006
03:50:54,610 --> 03:50:58,910
So how many people want extra parking in town?

3007
03:50:59,010 --> 03:51:02,010
I don't think anybody's going to be challenging that.

3008
03:51:02,010 --> 03:51:02,910
I might be only.

3009
03:51:03,290 --> 03:51:05,650
And this is the public interest determination,

3010
03:51:05,910 --> 03:51:07,390
your county, Monroe, is something that's

3011
03:51:07,390 --> 03:51:09,810
used relatively frequently.

3012
03:51:10,350 --> 03:51:13,330
We've seen it used by municipalities that

3013
03:51:13,330 --> 03:51:15,590
own property with another mispality.

3014
03:51:16,450 --> 03:51:18,510
And they're seeking to do a public use in that other

3015
03:51:18,510 --> 03:51:21,110
municipality, even if it's not something that

3016
03:51:21,110 --> 03:51:22,530
that municipality wants.

3017
03:51:23,050 --> 03:51:39,530
And it's used in that case and, you know, like, for putting up a cell tower in another municipality that's opposed and that's one of the more famous cases is a municipality put up a cell tower in another municipality and it was challenged by that municipality and the courts said no, it meets the public interest.

3018
03:51:40,030 --> 03:51:45,750
There are examples on it, you don't have to follow the special permanent requirements or anything else, you're allowed to do it.

3019
03:51:46,430 --> 03:51:50,730
So it's a straightforward doctrine that's well accepted.

3020
03:51:50,730 --> 03:52:07,670
And I would say suffice it to say that there will be many other opportunities for review of this project, including the bid documents and our, you know, RFPs, the site plan review, there will be many other opportunities for public input and of course for council review.

3021
03:52:09,230 --> 03:52:10,550
Okay, everybody's good.

3022
03:52:10,890 --> 03:52:11,230
Good.

3023
03:52:12,550 --> 03:52:13,550
Thank you.

3024
03:52:14,530 --> 03:52:17,910
The next item we have is civic carbon connectivity project.

3025
03:52:18,190 --> 03:52:18,670
I'm sorry.

3026
03:52:19,490 --> 03:52:22,630
So the first step was this declaration.

3027
03:52:23,410 --> 03:52:25,250
I wonder that we adopt.

3028
03:52:25,970 --> 03:52:30,530
We'll go through this steps then so that planning commission will then get to see this.

3029
03:52:31,150 --> 03:52:31,170
Yes.

3030
03:52:31,790 --> 03:52:38,190
So the planning commission has already issued an intent to be lead agency.

3031
03:52:38,770 --> 03:52:42,350
So we would be asking the council to concur with that.

3032
03:52:43,650 --> 03:52:49,770
then it goes through, it would go through the site plan review just like it would, you know,

3033
03:52:49,910 --> 03:52:53,430
any other application, when we're ready for it, we're not ready for it right now because

3034
03:52:53,430 --> 03:52:55,710
we don't have detailed site plan review.

3035
03:52:57,530 --> 03:53:01,810
Thank you for bringing me up to speed last week.

3036
03:53:02,190 --> 03:53:06,590
It occurred to me that we didn't like the James Street garage.

3037
03:53:07,690 --> 03:53:09,950
Nobody likes it, I think, is that a fair description?

3038
03:53:09,950 --> 03:53:17,450
It's ugly and it's underused because it's ugly and there's trouble maintaining the elevator

3039
03:53:17,450 --> 03:53:24,750
So the idea of putting up another five story garage using the same elevator right next to it

3040
03:53:24,750 --> 03:53:28,890
Struck me is probably not a good idea at all

3041
03:53:28,890 --> 03:53:35,990
So what could you do to modify it to make it a better idea and I thought if you could get a commercial use

3042
03:53:35,990 --> 03:53:44,890
on the top floor, or something that would attract people that would be observing what the

3043
03:53:44,890 --> 03:53:50,550
conditions were in the garage, or a restaurant, or something like that. I think you could

3044
03:53:50,550 --> 03:53:55,830
avoid having the same problem with the new addition that we have with the current place.

3045
03:53:56,570 --> 03:54:05,550
So I think we need the thought of the design now a bit to get to that. I wouldn't mind

3046
03:54:05,550 --> 03:54:11,970
flopping a floor off it, either, just to bring something to height down and then possibly

3047
03:54:13,290 --> 03:54:15,430
putting a park on the top of the thing.

3048
03:54:15,690 --> 03:54:23,090
Whatever we're doing, we can't replicate what we've got now, to me, that's in practically

3049
03:54:23,090 --> 03:54:23,830
crazy.

3050
03:54:24,630 --> 03:54:26,730
I don't like the James Street Garage.

3051
03:54:26,970 --> 03:54:30,310
A lot of people won't use it, they keep saying, there's not enough parking because

3052
03:54:30,310 --> 03:54:32,110
they don't park in the range in James Street Garage.

3053
03:54:32,110 --> 03:54:39,670
It has a problem of height, the certain solar vehicles are limited in their ability to use it.

3054
03:54:39,850 --> 03:54:43,990
So now we're going to replicate that with the same floor plan and stuff like that.

3055
03:54:45,110 --> 03:54:48,330
I want to move ahead with what Carol is doing.

3056
03:54:48,450 --> 03:54:51,330
I want to get a momentum fund in.

3057
03:54:51,350 --> 03:54:55,650
I want to get the money from the carry to come into help us with the cost of it.

3058
03:54:55,650 --> 03:55:01,250
But I think we need a design that will not create the same problems that James Street Garage has.

3059
03:55:03,930 --> 03:55:08,350
If that's the way it goes forward, I'll just vote against it because I feel that strongly.

3060
03:55:09,030 --> 03:55:17,030
I think we need to design and we need to use beyond the parking that will keep a restaurant

3061
03:55:17,030 --> 03:55:18,690
on the roof or something like that.

3062
03:55:19,890 --> 03:55:23,710
If that could work, we'd help keep the place from being a dump.

3063
03:55:26,740 --> 03:55:34,500
I agree with some of what you're saying, but I don't agree with all of it because I think

3064
03:55:34,500 --> 03:55:40,540
one of the big problems that I've heard about with the Grasian that I have myself is

3065
03:55:41,680 --> 03:55:49,120
the that it's dark and the elevators are maybe less than clean and things like that.

3066
03:55:49,120 --> 03:55:54,200
So I think that's, you know, I don't think it's too tall necessarily,

3067
03:55:56,620 --> 03:55:58,040
but you know, I think

3068
03:55:58,040 --> 03:56:03,920
that we have to really pay attention to fixing that up in a way that brightens it up

3069
03:56:03,920 --> 03:56:09,780
and makes people feel safe and the elevator is really probably should be replaced.

3070
03:56:11,280 --> 03:56:13,700
Can I have just a word?

3071
03:56:14,160 --> 03:56:20,600
So the momentum funds project does include some of the repairs to the James Street garage

3072
03:56:20,600 --> 03:56:28,040
that I think get out a lot of the issues that people generally find with the garage.

3073
03:56:29,260 --> 03:56:35,300
Whether that's the lighting or the cleanliness or the elevators, I'd have to look more closely

3074
03:56:35,300 --> 03:56:38,740
at the scope that when that involves the replacement

3075
03:56:38,740 --> 03:56:40,060
and repair of the elevators.

3076
03:56:42,140 --> 03:56:46,100
You know, we also looked at the expense

3077
03:56:47,720 --> 03:56:51,120
of what would it be to have retail on the ground floor.

3078
03:56:51,240 --> 03:56:53,280
Now, I know those users are not going to the top,

3079
03:56:53,280 --> 03:56:55,040
but that's where you want your retail, right?

3080
03:56:55,300 --> 03:56:56,600
Because there's a lot of expense

3081
03:56:56,600 --> 03:57:00,820
in adding that kind of weight to the top of the grove.

3082
03:57:01,520 --> 03:57:03,920
But even the ground floor is quite expensive.

3083
03:57:03,920 --> 03:57:24,860
it is quite expensive too and it really would price us out of, I don't have the number of the top of my head because I didn't think we'd be discussing this this evening, but I can get back to you about the cost of that and then, but we also considered solar for the rooftop and that is something that absolutely could come.

3084
03:57:24,860 --> 03:57:42,740
But as far as working through the kind of design limitations of the existing garage, we are getting some real cost efficiencies in connecting the levels and not having to build a ramp.

3085
03:57:42,740 --> 03:57:52,820
your footprint is smaller, you can connect to the other existing garage that I would be afraid

3086
03:57:52,820 --> 03:57:59,340
that we would just not have a project at all if we were to start from scratch or to start from.

3087
03:57:59,640 --> 03:58:06,440
I don't think that's what you're saying, Councilmember, but I want to just take it one step at a time

3088
03:58:06,440 --> 03:58:11,640
And that is that we've got improvements that will be made to to the James

3089
03:58:11,640 --> 03:58:17,040
Street garage that are a part of momentum as well that we'll be taking on.

3090
03:58:18,100 --> 03:58:18,960
I'll have that.

3091
03:58:20,020 --> 03:58:22,980
Just get back to design and it's to help.

3092
03:58:23,760 --> 03:58:30,440
Does anybody think that my community and other James Street garage come in really mean?

3093
03:58:30,540 --> 03:58:33,480
I think that we need and you are out.

3094
03:58:33,480 --> 03:58:39,160
had a discussion on actually how we could do some minor things right now to really

3095
03:58:39,160 --> 03:58:44,500
screw up the graduate because it's not a fact that and Chiefs just explains to me that the

3096
03:58:44,500 --> 03:58:49,740
garage was actually full of the past couple of weeks, even a tough loss and he's kind of looking

3097
03:58:49,740 --> 03:58:55,520
at and trying to see who's parking it but the garage is actually being utilized. But we took

3098
03:58:55,520 --> 03:59:01,580
a tour of it and we do need to move the exercise so people can see them as they're going down,

3099
03:59:01,580 --> 03:59:06,020
need to paint the brick where it's going to paint a black to brighten it up and maybe paint

3100
03:59:06,020 --> 03:59:11,900
it a white. We need to paint it with a non graffiti type of paint so that that doesn't

3101
03:59:11,900 --> 03:59:21,360
adhere to it. We talk to Matt about how we have someone there in the stairwell in with the elevators

3102
03:59:21,360 --> 03:59:25,680
and cleaning up that area. Making sure that it's posted that we're people there.

3103
03:59:30,000 --> 03:59:31,060
All in an

3104
03:59:31,060 --> 03:59:37,180
I don't like how it's how we maintain it and what we haven't done to make it more inviting

3105
03:59:37,180 --> 03:59:45,940
And I think once we make it more inviting and give people, as you said, that they know it's safe and it's clean

3106
03:59:45,940 --> 03:59:54,280
That it will be utilized and so to build on that next door to it in an area where we definitely need parking

3107
03:59:54,280 --> 04:00:00,000
I would be in agreement with that with something underneath it, not just all parking but somehow

3108
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:07,340
Kind of commercial type of thing underneath it, in that area, because, you know, as we're growing, there's a need for barking.

3109
04:00:09,680 --> 04:00:18,900
I mean, I, I, I use the barking, the barking, and, and the night time, the night time is almost empty.

3110
04:00:18,900 --> 04:00:26,910
Tell me as well and one other thing is and everybody mentioned have maintenance keep and clean

3111
04:00:28,500 --> 04:00:37,080
Water pressure may be clean or sometimes twice a year and lighting the stirs the elevator

3112
04:00:38,220 --> 04:00:45,240
There's something that we were talking for almost seven years like a signage like a they're not in signage

3113
04:00:45,240 --> 04:00:51,600
that the people know where they can barking or where they've heard me barking or something like that.

3114
04:00:51,900 --> 04:00:57,340
If I don't remember and it's all global people, they can use them in some point

3115
04:00:57,340 --> 04:01:00,800
overnight or for the time on theaters.

3116
04:01:01,320 --> 04:01:04,740
I mean, we need to have another kind of management

3117
04:01:04,740 --> 04:01:16,240
how we can use the parking. I think there are many, many, if I know Ron, the study that we

3118
04:01:16,240 --> 04:01:26,120
have a few years ago, show that we have enough parking, so it's not like we don't have it.

3119
04:01:26,160 --> 04:01:31,220
But I don't think there is no management and a good reform. If I know Ron, we participate

3120
04:01:32,260 --> 04:01:40,240
two years or three years ago, I think a chief, he was there, the barking enforcement, and

3121
04:01:40,240 --> 04:01:45,160
if I don't wrong, when you mentioned it, and the winged the parking, the police department

3122
04:01:46,320 --> 04:01:50,880
put it like a 5,000 flyers in the street to prevent the people.

3123
04:01:51,420 --> 04:02:01,200
But there was a lot of communication with a business owner in the area and the staff, but I

3124
04:02:01,200 --> 04:02:05,960
When we're talking about Chinese, now the program, remember that we mentioned that we need an

3125
04:02:05,960 --> 04:02:12,200
parking lot to have that kind of Chinese, and I don't see that yet. So we need that people who knows.

3126
04:02:13,520 --> 04:02:21,620
Do you remember, well, you can remember that you come with a strong war when we tried to

3127
04:02:21,620 --> 04:02:24,940
span the meter in the second level.

3128
04:02:25,600 --> 04:02:31,340
It took photos like the counselor that was asking for maybe

3129
04:02:31,340 --> 04:02:36,900
almost one year, and I remember that was your word to the

3130
04:02:39,640 --> 04:02:43,280
former city manager when they said, but we are talking to

3131
04:02:43,280 --> 04:02:46,280
the span the meters only one level.

3132
04:02:47,560 --> 04:02:50,760
And took photos like maybe almost one year to do that.

3133
04:02:50,760 --> 04:02:57,660
So I think we need to have something in the management and the signage and the maintenance

3134
04:02:57,660 --> 04:03:03,540
over there to see that I think that could be possible where some discussion that we

3135
04:03:03,540 --> 04:03:04,780
can have it.

3136
04:03:04,860 --> 04:03:07,320
I'm going to bring this back, I want you to carry this thing.

3137
04:03:07,940 --> 04:03:12,560
So to answer your question, Councilor Douglas, I think it's as everyone has said how we make

3138
04:03:12,560 --> 04:03:20,580
it better, but utilizing because of the apartments coming in, having to

3139
04:03:20,580 --> 04:03:24,120
to, with our parking in lieu of whatever the we need.

3140
04:03:25,480 --> 04:03:27,560
You know, I had this conversation with the chief.

3141
04:03:27,720 --> 04:03:31,580
We keep saying, oh, well, we can sell spaces in the James 3 Garage.

3142
04:03:32,020 --> 04:03:35,020
Well, you can't sell the same spaces over and over and over

3143
04:03:35,020 --> 04:03:38,340
if we're going to continue to develop and we're trying to figure out ways

3144
04:03:38,340 --> 04:03:42,920
for people to park in the developer, not get caught into having to do it

3145
04:03:42,920 --> 04:03:44,140
but can then use the parking.

3146
04:03:44,500 --> 04:03:47,100
So that will be some of the reason to have that as well.

3147
04:03:47,100 --> 04:03:56,020
There, those are all good ideas, but I think the history of the James Street Mirage is pretty much a bad one.

3148
04:03:56,320 --> 04:03:59,820
It goes back early to urban renewal days and it continues.

3149
04:04:00,280 --> 04:04:02,560
It was built in the 60s and 70s.

3150
04:04:03,460 --> 04:04:03,980
70s?

3151
04:04:04,000 --> 04:04:06,280
It must have been right about 1970.

3152
04:04:07,220 --> 04:04:08,580
Because the other one is 75.

3153
04:04:09,240 --> 04:04:10,820
I think the Nelson Avenue.

3154
04:04:11,200 --> 04:04:13,760
Anyways, it was built before I went working for the city.

3155
04:04:13,760 --> 04:04:18,080
But whenever you think it's a maintenance and management problem,

3156
04:04:18,580 --> 04:04:21,440
you have to step back and say, well, it's a design problem.

3157
04:04:21,840 --> 04:04:22,280
It's ugly.

3158
04:04:22,940 --> 04:04:25,140
And that's why maintenance and management is difficult.

3159
04:04:25,300 --> 04:04:26,980
Are you talking about the outside of it?

3160
04:04:27,020 --> 04:04:29,900
I'm talking about the entire inside and outside the whole thing.

3161
04:04:30,960 --> 04:04:32,080
I'm talking about the entire inside and outside the whole thing.

3162
04:04:32,080 --> 04:04:34,100
So now I'm going to bring this back in.

3163
04:04:34,360 --> 04:04:37,860
I wouldn't really do that to some things that we have to do to make it more important.

3164
04:04:37,900 --> 04:04:39,340
Before we get too far down the road,

3165
04:04:39,340 --> 04:04:47,860
So I think the design of a new building that attaches to it needs to be thought out in such a way that it does not.

3166
04:04:48,400 --> 04:04:53,280
It somehow strengthens, improves, it does something to what's there.

3167
04:04:53,660 --> 04:05:01,360
And the idea of having something on the ground floor would help, I think, if you took lost some spaces, I think take it floor off.

3168
04:05:01,360 --> 04:05:09,360
So it isn't just, you know, straight across building it, you can put something on the roof or something to do something with it.

3169
04:05:10,080 --> 04:05:16,880
But it is a design issue. I haven't not seen anything that looked like a creative person was looking at this thing

3170
04:05:16,880 --> 04:05:21,720
and saying, I'm going to make a building here that's going to make the other one work

3171
04:05:21,720 --> 04:05:26,860
or the building I'm putting up now will be, will enhance the area

3172
04:05:27,440 --> 04:05:31,080
and with the other improvements we're talking about lighting and painting and other stuff like

3173
04:05:31,080 --> 04:05:38,760
just taking together would have an impact of making a better building period so I don't think

3174
04:05:38,760 --> 04:05:39,860
we've thought the design.

3175
04:05:40,360 --> 04:05:41,000
Well done.

3176
04:05:41,100 --> 04:05:44,200
Can I just interject that it's not been designed yet?

3177
04:05:44,480 --> 04:05:45,600
It's what I'm talking about.

3178
04:05:46,060 --> 04:05:46,420
I know.

3179
04:05:46,560 --> 04:05:50,860
So what are we doing now if we haven't even designed, do you have a conceptual plan?

3180
04:05:50,860 --> 04:05:56,940
We have a conceptual plan, that's, and the whole reason that we're doing this

3181
04:05:56,940 --> 04:06:03,600
environment at this point right now is so that we can go to the board of legislators and

3182
04:06:03,600 --> 04:06:12,460
get them to commit $1.8 million, then we have our momentum dollars, we have our dollars

3183
04:06:12,460 --> 04:06:20,060
for from the HIF, hopefully, but requires environmental review sign off from the city to do

3184
04:06:20,060 --> 04:06:24,840
that. And that is easy. That doesn't have anything to do with what the building looks like.

3185
04:06:25,120 --> 04:06:27,860
We're maxing out what we think we can do in that envelope.

3186
04:06:28,500 --> 04:06:31,540
That's exactly how we should approach an environmental review at this stage.

3187
04:06:31,840 --> 04:06:33,160
Given that we don't know the details.

3188
04:06:34,020 --> 04:06:35,660
We're not changing any of the curb cuts.

3189
04:06:35,900 --> 04:06:39,120
That's exactly what we should do right now because we don't know any of the details.

3190
04:06:39,880 --> 04:06:45,060
So we're assuming everything is almost like worst case is what you will.

3191
04:06:45,620 --> 04:06:50,800
So that we can have all of this money in the pocket and then go to a design phase.

3192
04:06:51,420 --> 04:06:57,180
And then we can, so I think I don't want to put the cart before the horse.

3193
04:06:58,340 --> 04:07:01,040
You know, we're trying to gather the money that we need to build it.

3194
04:07:01,040 --> 04:07:09,420
And then we can, at this point, after we get the HIF dollars, we can start to go into some design phases.

3195
04:07:09,420 --> 04:07:16,240
When we tell the county what we're doing, are we telling them we're building a five-story building that generates

3196
04:07:16,240 --> 04:07:17,940
X number of parking space?

3197
04:07:18,020 --> 04:07:21,080
We are, because that's the max that we could do in this location.

3198
04:07:21,460 --> 04:07:24,180
And for an environmental review purposes, it's an environmental review.

3199
04:07:24,360 --> 04:07:28,740
But now you're talking about the county looking at the project and saying they're going to give the money

3200
04:07:28,740 --> 04:07:30,560
to pass to the environmental review point.

3201
04:07:31,020 --> 04:07:34,940
They're only giving us space money for 22 spaces only.

3202
04:07:35,260 --> 04:07:36,460
I heard that part of it.

3203
04:07:38,200 --> 04:07:42,520
So that's all they'll consider, they won't go more than that, because they're giving it

3204
04:07:42,520 --> 04:07:43,900
for the specific project.

3205
04:07:45,980 --> 04:07:46,860
Anyone else?

3206
04:07:49,480 --> 04:07:50,080
You know, it's tough.

3207
04:07:50,220 --> 04:07:55,800
I mean, the one thing that we have to keep in mind when people say it is no parking, you

3208
04:07:55,800 --> 04:07:58,820
know, it would be, I just think it would be nice.

3209
04:08:00,000 --> 04:08:07,060
You know, it would be great to have some insight on who's saying that, because I was someone

3210
04:08:07,060 --> 04:08:08,800
coming from out of town.

3211
04:08:09,340 --> 04:08:10,920
Like let's say for example, I go to White Plains.

3212
04:08:12,540 --> 04:08:15,860
I'm already expecting to walk, correct?

3213
04:08:16,380 --> 04:08:19,260
But because of the city, it's a little city,

3214
04:08:19,260 --> 04:08:21,060
and it feels like a town.

3215
04:08:21,600 --> 04:08:26,600
And so people wanted, but it's technically, it is a city.

3216
04:08:28,120 --> 04:08:32,340
So I agree with you as far as the look of it,

3217
04:08:33,300 --> 04:08:36,400
but at the same time, there's a cultural thing.

3218
04:08:36,400 --> 04:08:41,020
the ship that people just have to just understand that we live in the city.

3219
04:08:41,740 --> 04:08:45,280
So, you know, if you go into the downtown, you know, if you can't find the spot, you know,

3220
04:08:45,420 --> 04:08:50,640
don't, it's so crazy, you know, we have the garage, you know, just like if you went to any other city.

3221
04:08:50,860 --> 04:08:51,020
Right, right.

3222
04:08:51,020 --> 04:08:56,700
It means the rush out and, you know, so far for so wide, you know, we're little, but technically it's a city.

3223
04:08:57,120 --> 04:09:03,700
So, you know, I'm, I'm for looking at how we can expand on this, but, you know, hopefully,

3224
04:09:05,360 --> 04:09:09,940
They're having this new structure here and we're going to probably do some really cool

3225
04:09:09,940 --> 04:09:13,320
interesting as far as the art and the colors, a lot of concern.

3226
04:09:13,720 --> 04:09:18,720
We can kind of help change people's understanding that you do live in the city.

3227
04:09:19,260 --> 04:09:19,880
That's growing.

3228
04:09:21,000 --> 04:09:24,980
And it's important to remember that the garage is intended to also support additional

3229
04:09:24,980 --> 04:09:26,520
housing in our downtown.

3230
04:09:27,180 --> 04:09:32,880
To fill have some of these just like 41 North Division adaptive reuse of properties.

3231
04:09:32,880 --> 04:09:40,900
in fill of properties that couldn't otherwise provide a parking, and you know to take to kind of,

3232
04:09:40,980 --> 04:09:46,480
and I think it is how you manage it, it's how you manage the parking as well, so not only, you know,

3233
04:09:46,500 --> 04:09:51,360
the cleanliness of the space and the actual physical maintenance, but how you manage the parking

3234
04:09:51,360 --> 04:09:58,840
that if we can have more shared parking that's thinking about, you know, different users in the downtown,

3235
04:09:58,840 --> 04:10:03,340
whether it's someone coming for the theater or someone who's going to park there for

3236
04:10:03,340 --> 04:10:07,760
because that's where their parking spot is and they live in on the downtown and they're

3237
04:10:07,760 --> 04:10:14,980
going to want two blocks to go to their home, you know, kind of, but he's somebody coming to the

3238
04:10:14,980 --> 04:10:20,220
theater or any business is only the two first level that people can use and the other one is

3239
04:10:20,220 --> 04:10:25,060
for me parking and the signage is, I mean, change and

3240
04:10:25,060 --> 04:10:28,780
management that the end that would be, that would be because I would

3241
04:10:28,780 --> 04:10:33,100
a day day day they can't park, I would agree with that.

3242
04:10:33,100 --> 04:10:36,140
I'm going to say what do you need for us on this part?

3243
04:10:36,520 --> 04:10:42,780
I don't, I need for us to approve our public interest determination and that the

3244
04:10:42,780 --> 04:10:47,760
planning commission would be the lead agency, those would be the two items that

3245
04:10:47,760 --> 04:10:51,140
we would bring forward to you in resolution next.

3246
04:10:51,220 --> 04:10:52,300
So we'll do it.

3247
04:10:52,320 --> 04:10:53,180
I'm okay with that.

3248
04:10:53,440 --> 04:10:53,540
Thank you.

3249
04:10:55,920 --> 04:10:56,180
And yep.

3250
04:10:56,460 --> 04:10:57,480
So I have two more items.

3251
04:10:59,100 --> 04:11:01,780
One is the Civic Hub connectivity project outreach.

3252
04:11:03,600 --> 04:11:09,760
So you know there was, you know, we presented the Civic Hub project, you know, had had

3253
04:11:09,760 --> 04:11:10,520
various feedback.

3254
04:11:11,120 --> 04:11:17,020
We've since been having lots of smaller conversations with some of our committee leaders,

3255
04:11:18,180 --> 04:11:25,400
And historic board, Arts Council, just to kind of get feedback and others, other people who were just interested in learning more about the project.

3256
04:11:26,500 --> 04:11:36,440
And I will say the vast majority of people once they understand it and have been able to hear more about it, you know, support the project and are excited about it.

3257
04:11:37,340 --> 04:11:42,040
There are people to be sure, yes, who have concerns and questions and it's not their taste.

3258
04:11:42,820 --> 04:11:44,120
That's that will always be the case.

3259
04:11:44,120 --> 04:11:49,980
I will say so what we're trying to do to make sure that we can express the full story

3260
04:11:49,980 --> 04:11:57,700
is we're creating a video with Jesse Gerola to kind of go over the project in a little more

3261
04:11:57,700 --> 04:12:05,220
detail just in a little longer time frame we have interviews with the designers as well as the

3262
04:12:05,220 --> 04:12:12,880
architect and ourselves that we're that will promote in social media so that's an important

3263
04:12:12,880 --> 04:12:21,200
thing that I think will give people more than a very poor image that's posted on a social

3264
04:12:21,200 --> 04:12:23,020
media page that we didn't even provide.

3265
04:12:23,980 --> 04:12:28,720
So we also want to have kind of what we're calling an open house, and that is that we

3266
04:12:28,720 --> 04:12:36,900
are committing to go out for Saturday and Sunday for some set timeframes in the gazebo

3267
04:12:36,900 --> 04:12:43,760
in Brown Plaza, April 26th and 27th, if it rains or something like that or something else happens

3268
04:12:43,760 --> 04:12:50,920
will find rain days where we will have stations and in general be able to have conversations

3269
04:12:50,920 --> 04:12:58,020
with people about the project and answer questions that have interactive boards where we're gathering

3270
04:12:58,020 --> 04:13:04,170
thoughts and opinions, how do you use the plaza, how do you how what makes you come to the civic hub

3271
04:13:04,170 --> 04:13:11,290
So those kinds of things should, it's stay shiny, it's a common question.

3272
04:13:14,250 --> 04:13:19,690
We are working to have that in Spanish language as well, and rain dates will be determined.

3273
04:13:20,350 --> 04:13:25,450
We want to have an online survey that kind of reflects those same open house questions.

3274
04:13:25,930 --> 04:13:30,550
It will be brief, we don't want it to be long, it needs to be brief, succinct to get to the point.

3275
04:13:30,550 --> 04:13:40,170
That's what we're committing to do right now for civic hub engagement, we'll come back to you with feedback in and what we're hearing as we go.

3276
04:13:40,450 --> 04:13:47,410
I have a question that little animated video that the architect or whoever is that going to be.

3277
04:13:47,430 --> 04:13:48,670
Will you sit in the video?

3278
04:13:48,930 --> 04:13:51,390
Because that made all the difference to me.

3279
04:13:55,630 --> 04:13:56,210
Yes.

3280
04:13:56,210 --> 04:14:04,330
And as I saw it in position and moving the camera, moving around it, it told the difference

3281
04:14:04,330 --> 04:14:04,650
in the area.

3282
04:14:05,150 --> 04:14:05,190
Yeah.

3283
04:14:06,550 --> 04:14:07,830
We would absolutely use that.

3284
04:14:08,270 --> 04:14:09,790
Carol, I just want to thank you for this effort.

3285
04:14:09,930 --> 04:14:13,790
I think the community engagement, although I feel it's a little late, I think it's a great

3286
04:14:13,790 --> 04:14:14,650
catch up.

3287
04:14:14,990 --> 04:14:19,290
And I think it will help our residents get on board with the project and understand it and take

3288
04:14:19,290 --> 04:14:20,050
ownership in it.

3289
04:14:20,510 --> 04:14:23,010
So I appreciate all the effort putting forward in this.

3290
04:14:23,010 --> 04:14:29,350
I think there's information to be shared in it, even if I remember the time that we presented it,

3291
04:14:29,590 --> 04:14:33,150
we didn't have Zoom, so we really couldn't even present the full story.

3292
04:14:33,950 --> 04:14:36,410
So now we can present the full story, get feedback.

3293
04:14:37,490 --> 04:14:43,890
There are design tweaks and things like that, you know, who knows, you know, we will have decisions

3294
04:14:43,890 --> 04:14:45,730
to be made at a later date.

3295
04:14:46,510 --> 04:14:46,830
Thank you.

3296
04:14:47,010 --> 04:14:47,870
Are there any other comments on that?

3297
04:14:48,430 --> 04:14:48,670
No.

3298
04:14:48,670 --> 04:14:52,570
There's no action resolution or anything like that, it's just, that's okay.

3299
04:14:52,570 --> 04:14:54,130
and purpose to move forward.

3300
04:14:55,530 --> 04:14:56,730
Thank you.

3301
04:14:58,810 --> 04:15:00,010
And our...

3302
04:15:00,180 --> 04:15:08,040
My final item is the waterfront to you, to you, speaker, consultant, RFP. So, as you know, we have three

3303
04:15:08,040 --> 04:15:16,800
sites, service parking lots at the waterfront that are we engaged in negotiations with developers

3304
04:15:16,800 --> 04:15:23,980
on. As we do that, go through that process, which I'll provide more update during executive

3305
04:15:23,980 --> 04:15:30,160
session on some of that. We need to, we recognize that we should start to bring on some

3306
04:15:30,160 --> 04:15:33,160
someone who can help us with the environmental review,

3307
04:15:33,280 --> 04:15:36,280
primarily so that we can start collecting traffic data.

3308
04:15:37,580 --> 04:15:40,440
So our approach to environmental review

3309
04:15:40,440 --> 04:15:42,800
for this project is kind of two-fold.

3310
04:15:43,460 --> 04:15:46,280
One is that the city is leading a conversation

3311
04:15:46,280 --> 04:15:49,480
and the work around the cumulative impacts

3312
04:15:49,480 --> 04:15:52,380
of development of the three sites together.

3313
04:15:52,920 --> 04:15:54,800
And we will look at things like traffic.

3314
04:15:56,240 --> 04:15:58,700
That's a clear, cumulative impact.

3315
04:15:58,700 --> 04:16:01,240
and others and other categories.

3316
04:16:03,000 --> 04:16:05,680
And then for each individual developer,

3317
04:16:06,400 --> 04:16:08,580
they will have to undertake their environmental review

3318
04:16:08,580 --> 04:16:11,900
for their site specific potential for impacts.

3319
04:16:12,740 --> 04:16:14,840
That could be historic shadows.

3320
04:16:15,240 --> 04:16:18,280
More detailed traffic because it's site specific.

3321
04:16:18,920 --> 04:16:19,460
That kind of thing.

3322
04:16:19,620 --> 04:16:22,060
All of the other categories that are in environmental.

3323
04:16:24,220 --> 04:16:26,780
But for us to get started on that,

3324
04:16:26,780 --> 04:16:43,040
We kind of need to get going now so that we can bring someone on board so we can do some basic data collection for specific intersections before school was out at the end of June, so this will give us time to do that.

3325
04:16:43,040 --> 04:16:57,740
We're proposing that the three developers pay for this citywide, a cumulative impact, and that they would, excuse me, provide a third of the costs towards it.

3326
04:16:58,680 --> 04:17:13,020
So what I'd like to do is to bring it back to you, for the resolution, next Monday with an authorization to release a request for a proposal.

3327
04:17:13,020 --> 04:17:13,520
proposals?

3328
04:17:15,040 --> 04:17:15,480
Questions?

3329
04:17:18,780 --> 04:17:21,560
So I'm okay with moving forward with that.

3330
04:17:21,880 --> 04:17:26,840
My question is when are we going to start presenting some of this publicly?

3331
04:17:28,960 --> 04:17:35,760
I think, well, we need to settle on terms, which need to come to you all first.

3332
04:17:36,700 --> 04:17:40,440
And I think ideally would be over the late spring and summer.

3333
04:17:40,440 --> 04:17:44,040
We would like to have some public engagement.

3334
04:17:45,060 --> 04:17:49,880
Our next council meeting, I want to bring forward to you another request for proposals

3335
04:17:49,880 --> 04:17:51,220
and that's for Urban Design.

3336
04:17:51,540 --> 04:17:53,440
Thank you, Council Member Douglas, for that suggestion.

3337
04:17:54,280 --> 04:17:59,840
For Urban Design, it would help us with telling the full story of the waterfront and that

3338
04:17:59,840 --> 04:18:04,740
would also engage the public in a conversation around some of the public realm improvements,

3339
04:18:05,320 --> 04:18:06,560
including railroad plaza.

3340
04:18:06,560 --> 04:18:13,400
So that could happen over the summer spring summer where we would be down at the waterfront

3341
04:18:13,400 --> 04:18:19,480
have a special session at the Lincoln Depot where we're having an open house, where we're

3342
04:18:19,480 --> 04:18:21,400
there with the developers.

3343
04:18:22,160 --> 04:18:31,500
We're presenting our vision, we're presenting the waterfront plan, we're presenting some

3344
04:18:31,500 --> 04:18:38,060
that design guidelines that we've provided to some of the developers, but you've seen

3345
04:18:38,060 --> 04:18:42,200
and get feedback from folks, but also have an engagement, a real engagement.

3346
04:18:42,840 --> 04:18:45,460
The developers are at different phases, right?

3347
04:18:45,620 --> 04:18:48,580
So some of them may be more open and asking questions.

3348
04:18:48,600 --> 04:18:53,880
Some of them are going to have design plans that they'll be more prepared for.

3349
04:18:55,320 --> 04:19:00,600
And in any case, want to be providing a leadership role in the public conversation

3350
04:19:00,600 --> 04:19:02,880
around the redevelopment of the waterfront.

3351
04:19:03,880 --> 04:19:05,560
So, thank you.

3352
04:19:05,720 --> 04:19:06,300
What else?

3353
04:19:08,380 --> 04:19:08,840
Go ahead.

3354
04:19:08,900 --> 04:19:09,540
Thank you.

3355
04:19:09,720 --> 04:19:09,980
You're welcome.

3356
04:19:11,040 --> 04:19:11,300
Okay.

3357
04:19:12,040 --> 04:19:25,460
So, the next one is we have posted the points for the fire volunteer fire low sap for the pension.

3358
04:19:26,020 --> 04:19:27,500
They've been hosted for 30 days.

3359
04:19:27,600 --> 04:19:30,880
There's been no comments and we're ready to use those.

3360
04:19:30,880 --> 04:19:34,080
or if you're okay with that, we're gonna move forward.

3361
04:19:35,820 --> 04:19:37,240
I'm okay moving forward.

3362
04:19:37,780 --> 04:19:37,940
Thank you.

3363
04:19:38,180 --> 04:19:38,340
Thank you.

3364
04:19:39,240 --> 04:19:39,660
All right.

3365
04:19:40,040 --> 04:19:43,400
And then Eric has three items for you.

3366
04:19:43,720 --> 04:19:45,000
We need to go to our executive.

3367
04:19:46,880 --> 04:19:50,440
Okay, so the first item is opposed to amendment

3368
04:19:50,440 --> 04:19:51,300
to City of Peace,

3369
04:19:51,440 --> 04:19:53,700
kill, solid, waste, code, chapter, 485.

3370
04:19:53,940 --> 04:19:57,520
I provided you a memorandum on that

3371
04:19:57,520 --> 04:20:04,500
to allow the living of unpaid user fees for recycling,

3372
04:20:04,980 --> 04:20:08,000
served for certain waste collection,

3373
04:20:08,340 --> 04:20:12,100
and solid waste disposal services as taxes.

3374
04:20:12,720 --> 04:20:17,580
Right now that the chapter 45 does not include a method

3375
04:20:17,580 --> 04:20:20,620
for living those unpaid fees as taxes.

3376
04:20:21,480 --> 04:20:23,880
And speaking with the controller, I believe,

3377
04:20:24,140 --> 04:20:26,240
there have been some outstanding fees

3378
04:20:26,240 --> 04:20:32,400
have not been able to be collected. So I was asked to research and determine how to do that.

3379
04:20:32,480 --> 04:20:39,260
There is a local law. It's allowed, unfortunately, any fees that were incurred prior to the

3380
04:20:39,260 --> 04:20:45,380
amendment of that chapter to allow for the levying of those unpaid fees cannot be collected

3381
04:20:45,380 --> 04:20:51,400
as unpaid taxes. But going forward, we will have the ability to do that. So that is the proposed

3382
04:20:51,400 --> 04:20:56,480
The amendment will have a proposed local law, and we'll be asking you to set a public hearing

3383
04:20:56,480 --> 04:21:01,820
on that, for I believe, that 28th, I guess, or...

3384
04:21:01,820 --> 04:21:02,340
For the mayor.

3385
04:21:03,340 --> 04:21:03,820
For the mayor.

3386
04:21:04,220 --> 04:21:08,280
For the council meeting in May for the public hearing.

3387
04:21:08,520 --> 04:21:09,360
No, I'm sorry.

3388
04:21:09,700 --> 04:21:10,900
We'll be on the 24th.

3389
04:21:11,660 --> 04:21:14,640
It would be to set a public hearing on the 28th on that local law.

3390
04:21:15,960 --> 04:21:18,720
So currently, for the water, we can do this.

3391
04:21:18,720 --> 04:21:20,560
for sewer, we can't see anything.

3392
04:21:21,200 --> 04:21:24,160
Yes, for, I believe you do have it for water action.

3393
04:21:24,680 --> 04:21:25,400
This is what we're doing.

3394
04:21:26,040 --> 04:21:26,860
Water and sewer.

3395
04:21:26,860 --> 04:21:28,400
I believe it has it for water and sewer.

3396
04:21:28,780 --> 04:21:30,060
We've got the sanitation, right?

3397
04:21:30,640 --> 04:21:31,940
This is just sanitation.

3398
04:21:34,100 --> 04:21:35,960
We already do it for water and sewer.

3399
04:21:36,380 --> 04:21:39,040
Those sanitation for...

3400
04:21:39,040 --> 04:21:42,500
So we have some contracts for some people.

3401
04:21:45,920 --> 04:21:48,580
So we've canceled those contracts as they hadn't paid us.

3402
04:21:48,580 --> 04:21:55,060
We can do that. I'll find out what the status of that is.

3403
04:21:58,130 --> 04:22:03,090
That is one, one, you know, one action that can be taken.

3404
04:22:03,830 --> 04:22:04,310
At this point.

3405
04:22:05,290 --> 04:22:08,590
But we have the contract with the private companies or

3406
04:22:09,270 --> 04:22:11,770
for the children buildings of the private contract.

3407
04:22:12,350 --> 04:22:16,370
There are certain parcels in the city that contract with us.

3408
04:22:16,650 --> 04:22:18,250
There are even certain parcels.

3409
04:22:18,250 --> 04:22:26,110
No, I believe they're all in the city, but there are certain parcels that contract with us, commercial, for commercial locations.

3410
04:22:29,160 --> 04:22:31,880
And this is a big issue to go down this road.

3411
04:22:32,380 --> 04:22:33,100
We're not getting...

3412
04:22:34,280 --> 04:22:35,580
We're just having...

3413
04:22:35,580 --> 04:22:37,300
Just for the future to have options.

3414
04:22:38,260 --> 04:22:38,580
Exactly.

3415
04:22:40,080 --> 04:22:42,800
We should help this anyway.

3416
04:22:44,320 --> 04:22:47,900
And it's pretty common that other municipalities have that ability.

3417
04:22:48,700 --> 04:22:48,960
Yep.

3418
04:22:48,960 --> 04:22:56,220
sort of a clean-up type of situation and then the next item I have on is we

3419
04:22:56,220 --> 04:23:03,240
spoken to you about this before the red light program in the city I provided the

3420
04:23:03,820 --> 04:23:09,720
procedures for how that gets adopted so we are prepared to come back to the

3421
04:23:09,720 --> 04:23:14,640
council to request the formal resolution asking the state legislature to pass

3422
04:23:14,640 --> 04:23:19,820
proposed legislation allowing a red light program in the city of peak skills, so we are

3423
04:23:19,820 --> 04:23:24,960
drafting the proposed legislation that need that would need to be adopted, but we need

3424
04:23:24,960 --> 04:23:30,340
a formal resolution for me to bring it to the state legislature, so that would be asking for

3425
04:23:30,340 --> 04:23:38,660
the meeting on the 14th. How quickly, because I know that the legislature is not

3426
04:23:39,560 --> 04:23:42,500
In session, that's what we'll injure.

3427
04:23:42,880 --> 04:23:44,620
Probably we'll not get it in June.

3428
04:23:45,300 --> 04:23:46,180
It won't not be done in June.

3429
04:23:46,240 --> 04:23:48,240
When did I pick back up against September?

3430
04:23:50,180 --> 04:23:52,900
I think it's the late fall, it's the next session.

3431
04:23:53,400 --> 04:23:59,140
But we have to, the city also has to find, you know, an entity to install the lights

3432
04:23:59,140 --> 04:24:04,260
and we'd have to go through that program of getting the actual program going.

3433
04:24:04,260 --> 04:24:07,920
and we're finding out how much it's going to cost the city, I'm assuming.

3434
04:24:08,540 --> 04:24:11,400
So, if we identified yet where we think these are going,

3435
04:24:12,460 --> 04:24:16,120
we've obtained the high-accident intersections.

3436
04:24:16,960 --> 04:24:18,540
So, we have that list of intersections.

3437
04:24:19,240 --> 04:24:22,520
I imagine that would include veins to some of my main straight.

3438
04:24:23,080 --> 04:24:24,020
That's where I say it.

3439
04:24:24,060 --> 04:24:26,420
Well, we're not going to get specific, because it's according to our level.

3440
04:24:27,040 --> 04:24:30,380
I won't say that everybody in the council should read this process.

3441
04:24:30,380 --> 04:24:45,700
It is quite lengthy, it's not just simply a matter of doing our resolution, it is a very lengthy process to get this down, so everyone should take a look at and read it and then as we get closer to it, whatever resolution you need for the next week to move it.

3442
04:24:45,900 --> 04:24:47,820
Everyone's in favor of moving forward with that.

3443
04:24:48,440 --> 04:24:48,740
Absolutely.

3444
04:24:52,440 --> 04:24:57,160
And then the final item, oh, is this one's a pretty straightforward one.

3445
04:24:57,160 --> 04:25:06,300
So dish network has an intent of system and equipment on one of the water towers, and apparently

3446
04:25:07,120 --> 04:25:10,200
there was a lease entered into with dish network.

3447
04:25:11,660 --> 04:25:15,900
After the lease was entered into, some of the equipment was moved, there was an exhibit.

3448
04:25:16,800 --> 04:25:21,880
We wanted to clean it up to show where the appropriate location is so we revised the exhibit.

3449
04:25:21,880 --> 04:25:25,880
There was some very minor amendments to the lease itself, but the exhibit had to be revised

3450
04:25:25,880 --> 04:25:31,340
in the location, you need to re-approve the the lease to show the new location of the equipment,

3451
04:25:31,580 --> 04:25:36,320
but there's no change, no substantive change to the lease other than the location of the equipment.

3452
04:25:36,940 --> 04:25:38,400
So just to clean up item basically.

3453
04:25:40,380 --> 04:25:44,640
Eric, the only question I have, and I don't know if this was the project that had happened on,

3454
04:25:44,740 --> 04:25:50,600
but we had an issue at one point having to move someone's equipment, and I just want to make sure

3455
04:25:50,600 --> 04:25:57,180
that provision is still in this agreement if it was in the prior, maybe it is, but I just

3456
04:25:57,180 --> 04:25:59,980
want to make sure that we're covered so we don't get into a situation.

3457
04:26:00,560 --> 04:26:04,880
I don't know if the disney work has that provision in it, it's on the, obviously, the

3458
04:26:04,880 --> 04:26:11,640
newer tower that's still functioning, you know, I mean, I could go back, is it possible

3459
04:26:11,640 --> 04:26:16,860
to add that to this amendment or is that we haven't, let me take a look at the disney

3460
04:26:16,860 --> 04:26:20,260
work, please, and see if it's in there that allows us to do it, we are still having

3461
04:26:20,260 --> 04:26:25,520
issue with T-Mobles, the other one, and that issue is still outstanding, but I hear you're

3462
04:26:25,520 --> 04:26:29,680
saying, I can look at the dish network one. It may be a separate amendment that wouldn't

3463
04:26:29,680 --> 04:26:33,760
be combined with this. We've got this one. When I came in, it was one of the items sitting

3464
04:26:33,760 --> 04:26:39,540
on the desk, and I kind of like to get this done. It's really just to clean up item, I don't

3465
04:26:39,540 --> 04:26:44,000
think I can use it as leverage for the dish network to say give us the ability to take your

3466
04:26:44,000 --> 04:26:49,440
equipment off if we need to paint the tower. If we can protect us a little bit, let me take

3467
04:26:49,440 --> 04:26:54,760
Let me take a look and see what's in there, and I will think about that, so thank you.

3468
04:26:56,520 --> 04:26:57,920
Yeah, it's a 10 year lease.

3469
04:26:58,480 --> 04:26:58,880
I don't know.

3470
04:26:59,340 --> 04:27:00,380
I don't have the debt.

3471
04:27:00,380 --> 04:27:05,360
I was just looking at it as a clean up item, so I can pull that out and take a look at it.

3472
04:27:06,040 --> 04:27:09,640
And next week I can come back to you and let you know what the situation is.

3473
04:27:10,760 --> 04:27:15,480
If we decide we want to try to address it, I'll let the council know off line.

3474
04:27:16,380 --> 04:27:16,500
Perfect.

3475
04:27:16,820 --> 04:27:17,320
Thank you.

3476
04:27:19,580 --> 04:27:20,060
Okay.

3477
04:27:22,120 --> 04:27:27,200
And so I'm going to ask that we dispense with Louise on reports because we do have executive session.

3478
04:27:27,460 --> 04:27:34,320
The executive session is for discussion of matters concerning the medical financial credit or employment history of a particular person.

3479
04:27:35,180 --> 04:27:38,300
The corporation or matters leading to the appointment.

3480
04:27:39,360 --> 04:27:45,160
Employment, promotion, emotion, discipline, suspension, dismissal or remove of a particular person person's or corporation.

3481
04:27:45,580 --> 04:27:47,460
Motion. Motion to adjourn to executive session.

3482
04:27:47,460 --> 04:27:52,860
It's so moved, like a home favorite part, I think you so much have a good night, okay?