[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:06] All right. Good evening, everybody. Sorry for the slight delay here. We're ready to call to order our joint meeting of the City Council. It's a session agency to redevelop an agency and all the other entities that listed on our agenda. There's Tuesday, January 28th, 2025. Call time is 6.45 p.m. Madam Clerk, can we roll call, please? [0:34] Councilmember Nava? President? Councilmember Corona? President? Mayor Pro Temura? Here? [0:39] Councillor Member Vallejo, your Mayor Vargas. [0:42] Present as well, thank you. [0:44] Item 3 is our invocation which will be led by Chaplain Doug Brockmeer from the Calvary Chapel Paris Valley. [0:50] Please come on up to the podium, sir. [0:52] You all please stand and join us in remaining standing for our pledge of allegiance, which item number 4 which will be led by Councilwoman Nava. [1:02] I'd like to say good evening to all of you, all the members of the City Council and the Mayor. [1:06] Thank you for giving me the opportunity to come and present the invocation for this month's City Council meeting. Let's pray dear [1:16] Father in heaven as we gather here this evening on behalf of the citizens of the wonderful city of Paris. We invite you to be here with us tonight. [1:27] Lord, maybe not only feel your presence and know that you are here, but we ask that you would provide us all with the love and the [1:34] compassion needed to make good decisions for the benefit of this great city. [1:41] In Lord we would also ask for your godly wisdom to be granted to each one here as we contemplate [1:49] the complexities of guiding the city in the direction that you wanted to go to be a light [1:55] on a hill to the surrounding communities. [1:58] We also pray that you would keep us near you and keep us safe as we serve you and your [2:04] people, and we lift a special prayer up this evening to all of those that are affected [2:09] by the firestorms in southern California. Lord, we pray for those who have lost much [2:15] or all of everything they've ever known. Father, we pray that you would be Jehovah Jaiara, [2:22] the Lord who provides, and that you would meet each person right where they're at for whatever [2:27] their needs are. Now, you would also be Jehovah Rafa, the Lord God who heals to those who [2:33] We are coming home and looking at their possessions and seeing all the destruction and the damage [2:39] that has happened there. [2:40] God made you heal their hearts, their minds and their spirits, and I pray, Lord, that [2:45] us, all of us, Lord, would just find ways to be able to come alongside them and show them [2:53] the love that you've shown to us, Father. [2:54] And these things we pray, in Jesus' name, I pray, amen. [3:00] Thank you. [3:00] Now, please join me in including our nation's flag, ready to begin. [3:05] Thank you, [3:20] Chapman. [3:24] Item five is report on closed session items and returning. [3:28] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. [3:29] The council met in closed session. [3:32] On item A, there were four cases, nor reportable action was taken on any of the cases. [3:38] The council met in closed session for real property negotiations pursuant to government [3:42] Government Code Section 54956.8 also, and no reportable action was taken, that concludes my report. [3:49] Thank you. [3:51] Item 6 is our presentation and announcements. [3:53] We have none this evening. [3:56] Item 7 is our Youth Advisory Committee Communications. [3:59] This report will be given by Kimberly Ty, the President of our Youth Advisory Committee. [4:10] Good evening, Mr. Mayor. [4:12] Members of the City Council and City staff. [4:14] My name is Kimberly Ty, and I am honored to serve as the president of the Youth Advisory Committee, YAC. [4:21] To start, YAC is excited to host our ninth annual job shadow day, next Thursday, February 6th. [4:29] In addition, our open mic night is Friday, February 7th at the Statler Youth Center from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m. [4:38] Also, YEC's first park's clean-ups of the year is scheduled for Saturday, February 8th, [4:44] from 8 a.m. to 11 a.m. at the Chanted Hills Park. [4:47] Our next YEC meeting is on Tuesday, February 4th, from 5.30 p.m. to 6.30 p.m. at Council [4:54] Chambers. [4:56] Community services are available to students who participate in our events. [5:00] Lastly, YAC wants to wish a YAC wants to announce its 2025-2006 recruitment and will be available [5:10] starting Monday, February 3rd, 2025. [5:13] As always, YAC reminds everyone to stay safe and connected. [5:17] Follow us on social media at Paris, YAC for updates and information about upcoming events. [5:24] Thank you for your time and continue to support. [5:28] thank you Kimberly. [5:32] Okay item eight is public comment. This is the time when any member of the public may bring a member, a matter to the attention of the mayor of the city council that is within our jurisdiction that is not as part of our agenda will allow for three minutes. [5:46] Madam Clerk, do you have any requests to speak? [5:48] Yes sir, Robert Ramos. [5:49] Well, [5:59] I'm a lucky one that gets to go first, right? [6:01] Good evening mayor, council members. [6:03] My name is Robert Ramos, and I'm here on behalf of the iron workers of Local 416. [6:10] I'm just going to be brief. [6:11] I'm here in support of a committee workforce agreement. [6:16] I'm just going to touch on two. [6:18] Robert, that's an agenda item. [6:20] This is on our consent calendar. [6:24] Okay, I'm sorry about the CWA. [6:26] be way. Yes, sir. Yeah. 10. M. So you want to come back here for the consent calendar? [6:32] Yes, sir. 10. M. Okay. Thank you. [6:36] Anybody else? Olivia. I'm sorry. Julia Birch. [6:51] Good evening. Honourable Mayor and City Council. [6:54] I'm representing two organizations tonight. I'm with the Chamber of Commerce. I'm our Secretary [7:00] and then I'm also representing the Paris Boys and Girls Club. First for the Chamber, we continue [7:06] you to develop a full schedule of programming, events, and educational workshops for the [7:11] members and local business community. [7:14] This Thursday we will be at the All Chamber Mega Mixer, a by-annual event, powered by [7:20] Chambers of Commerce all across Southern California. [7:23] There will be dozens of Chambers, hundreds of exhibitor tables, and thousands of attendees. [7:29] Admission is only $1 or one business card. [7:31] So we ask you to stop by our table, the PVCC table if you're there and learn more about us and the powerful resources available. [7:40] We also have a complete lineup of financial workshops scheduled to make our businesses have the tools and resources needed for success. [7:49] The first workshop will be on Wednesday, February 19th at 9.30 a.m. and we will alternate Wednesdays and Fridays. [7:57] And then today our ambassadors finalize the dates for the 2025 business walks. [8:02] I know we always love to have the mayor join us. [8:05] We are going to visit every business in town to learn how their businesses are going, [8:10] what they love about doing business in Paris and the areas they are struggling. [8:15] And this helps us to create targeted programs to serve the business community in a relevant [8:19] way. [8:20] And then lastly, we invite everyone here to join us on Wednesday, February 5th for our [8:26] a monthly good morning Paris. [8:28] This month's speaker is Riverside County Supervisor District 1, Jose Medina, and he will be discussing [8:34] his goals and vision for his new role as a county supervisor. [8:40] And we do ask that you check our Chamber calendar for all the details of all these events. [8:46] It is Paris Chamber dot net slash events. [8:49] And we are always adding new mixers, ribbon cutting ceremonies, programs to the calendar. [8:54] so we ask everyone to check that out and as always follow us on our socials Facebook is Paris Chamber and Instagram is Paris.Chamber for the most up-to-date information [9:08] and then switching over to Boys and Girls Club. We are partnered with Ross and Paris from February 8th through March 2nd. [9:16] If you visit Ross and make a purchase, we'll ask at the register for you to make a donation. [9:21] any donations that are made go 80% goes directly to the Paris Boys and Girls Club and 20% goes to our national office to support the project and this goes towards our power hour program, which is an hour for our kids to participate in homework assistance programs. [9:37] Thank you. [9:38] Thank you. [9:41] Ashley Barton. [9:43] I [9:57] am Ashley Barton. I'm the lead facilitator for Paris Pride Alliance. [10:01] I'm not here for that today but I did want to thank all of the city staff that has been helping me in finding a permanent home for Paris Pride Alliance to meet. [10:10] I do have a very strong lead and hopefully I will be announcing at the next city council meeting our first indoor meeting from towards the ends of February. [10:20] I did want to come up here because I have been seeing a lot in the news and the local news about ice raids. [10:28] and they are incredibly concerning. [10:31] I see that I'm scared for our local members in the way that I don't see that things are [10:39] going legally, at least in the way that we understood them to be. [10:45] I have personal friends who have gone to regular visa renewal appointments and having found [10:52] out after arriving there that their visa was canceled and they were immediately arrested [10:57] and they are now on their way to deportation. [11:00] They didn't even get to say goodbye to their kids. [11:03] So I know that's happening, that wasn't in our community, [11:06] but I have heard that there are things [11:08] that have happened in our community, [11:10] things that have been posted and verified by local news watch. [11:14] So I just wanted to urge and remind us to be vigilant, [11:18] to report ICE, to let people know when they're happening, [11:22] when they're coming, and to rely on and help with TOTEC, [11:25] and the Inland Coalition for Immigrant Justice. [11:29] They're doing really good work right now [11:31] and they're helping our immigrant community members, [11:34] which we have a good amount of. [11:36] Lastly, I just wanted to remind everyone here [11:40] that the difference between a documented citizen [11:43] and an undocumented citizen is only paperwork. [11:47] Thank you. [11:48] Thank you, Ashley. [11:51] Alexandra Olmesa. [12:06] Good evening members of the council. [12:07] people of Paris concerned and decent people everywhere. [12:11] Some of you have to be caught up on this, but regardless of what you have known or thought before, I am counting on everyone tonight to make sense of what I'm saying and to act. [12:19] It does affect you and your constituents, and there are things within your power here. [12:24] The Paris Valley Historical Society, officially Paris Valley Historical Museum and Association has been the recipient of over $28,000 in grants from the city of Paris, all of which should have come with basic stipulations about following all applicable laws. [12:36] Many of those discretionary funds have gone into the regular art shows which are canceled and definitely due to their event coordinators departure. [12:43] None of us feel the absence of those shows more than the artists, vendors, customers, and volunteers, some of which are here today who frankly put up with a lot while getting a lot out of that. [12:53] But those shows had to end for now because as good as they are for the community, the historical society board allowed these events to be run by someone whose negative behavior was more than matched by criminal history. [13:02] A felony count of PC-261.5 is statutory rape of a young teen. [13:06] It is grooming and it is violation. [13:08] That is not something which should ever be forgotten within the context of someone who wants [13:13] to organize and supervise events attended by minors who may be unsupervised. [13:16] That is what PC-section 11105.3 accounts for under which this simply isn't allowed without [13:22] notice given the families of kids who go to these events. [13:24] So, this person naturally shouldn't be brought back to run the Paris fandom con which they [13:28] to try to openly tout like a done deal on a Paris City lease. [13:32] That would look especially bad for the city. [13:34] Before he resigned, he had started offering free spaces to set up for anyone with a local high school ID. [13:39] That means minors, okay? [13:40] I don't want to see that families don't, unless we have a guarantee that the position's not abused. [13:45] Now, when these issues are revealed, the board of the historical society seem to double down by trying to shake off the whistle blowings [13:50] with canceled and shifted meetings. [13:53] Now they're surprised by public outcry, but they must learn to move past these decisions and [13:56] bring back art shows under new leadership, allow return of volunteers, and until then, the city of Paris should not consider any new funds for this nonprofit, except to repair that archive, which is a city building anyway. [14:06] That is likely to follow any financial agreement that was made, and we are requesting that the city review the terms of its financial agreements with the Historical Society, that any agreements attached to those grants also be made available for reviewing to determine what standards the city should be holding the organization to right now. [14:20] This is not the thing to have a blind spot for, especially when it has a paralyzing effect [14:23] on the proper function of the Historical Society. [14:26] We may talk about commercial development, but what of our cultural integrity between art [14:30] shows and staffing the city's archive building, the essence of the Historical Society's work [14:34] was cultural integrity, but you see where that has gotten to be. [14:37] Mayor Vargas, you've been able to arrange meetings with the leadership of the Historical [14:39] Society and the past to discuss the K of the archive, which by all means you should focus [14:42] on. [14:43] Now, perhaps your office could similarly arrange something to demonstrate how deeply concerned [14:46] We are by the legal and ethical dilemmas invited by that board, while rejecting the labor of those with honest concerns doubling down on a PC violation with a likely labor code violation unacceptable. [14:57] So please do reach back out to a saw. [15:00] And discuss amongst yourselves. Thank you. Thank you. Julia Stodder. [15:10] Julia Stodder. [15:18] I'm Julia Stoder. Believe it or not, I am a business owner in Rancho Cumunga, California. And we're dreamland arts and community. We focus on uplifting arts and community in the inland empire. And what Alex just spoke on is something that personally affected me. [15:40] over there in Rancho Cucamonga, and I don't know how many of you know the person in question, [15:47] this coordinator, I don't know who allowed him to work in tandem with you. He touted himself as [15:57] the like the boy of Paris, he is the savior. He is working with the city of Paris. He's hosting events [16:05] at Paris High School with the conviction of Louis de la Chivia's axe with a 14 to 15-year-old [16:16] when he was a grown adult man. That's inexcusable that he was working with children, [16:33] young [16:33] against him for restraining orders. [16:40] His own mother filed one against him at one point. [16:45] There's, if you look him up, [16:47] just public record, San Bernardino County, [16:50] if you look up that man's name, there's 18 files, 18 times [16:58] where that man was a defendant in a case of a violent crime. [17:03] Why was he working for the city of Paris? [17:08] How was he cleared to hold events at a high school three times, [17:12] he's supposed to be holding another one this summer, [17:14] which he wrote me into two years ago, [17:17] promising he was going to be the best thing nothing came of it. [17:22] He is embarrassing to the city. [17:26] And it's affected us, the arts community, [17:29] which is a big up-and-coming economic thing that's happening in the Inland Empire. [17:35] I don't know if anybody's like in on the economic development of the entire Inland Empire, [17:40] but we're moving toward a lot more of art and community-focused businesses because we need that here. [17:47] So this is our business all around the Inland Empire. [17:51] And if you guys are doing this, if you're allowing this, imagine everybody else who's allowing this. [17:56] Again, I don't, I've never met any of you, I don't know who you are, your affiliation [18:03] with the coordinator, or I don't know who approved it. [18:07] But all I know is that a convicted, grown adult who touched a child gets the whole [18:16] All the events at Paris High School, how'd that happen? [18:23] Thank you. [18:26] That is all. [18:27] Thank you. [18:29] All right, we're going to move up item [18:35] 12A consoles. [18:36] This is a presentation from our federal lobbyist who's got to play in the cats. [18:44] The objection is going to move him on up. [18:46] This item is going to be introduced by Assistant City Manager, Wendell Bugtay. [18:51] Thank you, Mayor. [18:52] We have Jason Browdy with Cali and Associates to provide us a federal update. [19:01] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. [19:02] The council member is the pleasure to be here. [19:06] We've had a busy few days in Washington since the incoming Trump administration has taken [19:12] office, but I did want to kind of present something that we've been working on with the [19:17] city, staff, and the council on various items. [19:22] And I do want to just go over that, some things that tap in over the last year and a half or so, [19:29] some big funding opportunities and some other work that we've been doing, and then just give you [19:33] a quick update on a couple things going on in DC under the New Trump administration. [19:41] So, again, my name is Jason Browdy with the firm Kylie and Associates. I know I've met a lot of you [19:46] before. It's a pleasure to be here, and it's a pleasure, honestly, to work on behalf of such a great city. [19:53] in Washington. My background is I grew up here in Southern California, so I have a unique [19:58] background of knowing a lot of your issues and a lot of the things impacting us here. In addition to myself, my two colleagues, great Kylin, Kim Van Wy, who I know the Council and staff know as well. [20:11] We're always here for you and for the entire city of residents, so just please let us know, however we can help. [20:18] Going back to some big funding opportunities that we've been working on with the city, [20:24] Congressman Takano, in something called Community Project, otherwise known as Earmarks, [20:32] has been one of the biggest things that we work on with the city. [20:35] Every year, the congressman and the two US senators get projects that they can support on behalf of the city. [20:42] We submit those at the direction of your help along with staff. [20:48] In 2023, the grant opportunity, your marks last grant opportunity, for [20:56] the Bob Glass gymnasium was put forward and [20:58] Congressman Tukana was able to bring home $3 million for that. [21:02] Again, this was a little leadership at the mayor and the council to get this across the finish line, of course, with a generosity of the Congressman. [21:09] Right now, we're working on completing this project, the early childhood classroom grand opening is actually scheduled just here in a few days for January 30th, and that's directly related to that $3 billion that we are able to work on with Congressman Ticano. [21:26] In 2024, we worked with both Congressman Ticano and Senator Alex Padilla and [21:34] late Senator Diane Feinstein for funding that went towards the Paris Senior Center. [21:40] Mayor, you may remember meeting with both the staff of the US Senators and [21:46] Congressman Ticano to get that funding across the finish line and it did get across the finish line. [21:50] $1.6 million. [21:52] It was signed into law by President Biden. [21:54] And it's currently law and right now we're working with federal agencies to get that money actually in the city's accounts and make sure that we can start that construction of that expansion program and we'll keep you posted as funds do move forward obviously today there was some news of potentially putting hold on some of this funding but from what we've been told so far this actual earmark funding will not be impacted by that. [22:25] directed by the Trump administration today. [22:28] But obviously, stay tuned and of course, if we do hear otherwise, we'll let you know. [22:33] Also the same year, Congressman Ticano and [22:38] Senator Feinstein and Senator Padilla put forward $200,000 for the purchase of body-worn cameras for the code enforcement team. [22:46] And this project was also signed a law by President Biden. [22:49] This program obviously makes sure that there's transparency between your code enforcement [22:54] government officers and your residents along making sure that the city is more safe, and [23:00] both your residents and your staff, have the tools and equipment to make sure that [23:08] there's no confrontations, things along those lines. [23:11] And it's a great program that the mayor really, and Council Member Rabby were there as well to really help bring home [23:20] from that funding from the senators and the Congress members. [23:25] That was another $200,000. [23:29] This past year, Congressman Ticano put forward $250,000 for [23:35] a new fire truck for the city, obviously with fires. [23:37] This was happened well before all these recent fires that we've been dealing with. [23:42] But $250,000 for a purchase of a new fire truck is pending right now. [23:46] It was signed, sorry, it was passed by the House Appropriations Committee, and it did include the city's $250,000 in that bill. [23:56] Right now, we're just waiting for Congress and the Senate to come upon an agreement to move that funding forward. [24:04] And then once that happens, we hope, hope, hope, it will be signed into law by President Trump sometime this spring. [24:10] And again, that'll be $250,000 towards a new fire truck. [24:14] And then in this upcoming year, we're going to be applying for funding once again. [24:22] Senator Alex Padilla and now Senator Adam Schiff took over for Senator Butler who was there just a short time after Senator Feinstein passed away. [24:32] So Senator Schiff and Senator Padilla are going to be taking member requests for projects along with Congressman Ticano. [24:39] You know, just last week, the mayor met with both Alex Medea and Senator Schiff in Washington, D.C. [24:48] We're going to start engaging with their staffs on some funding opportunities that we see fit for the city. [24:55] And finally, we'll also apply for the same funding to Congressman Takano as well. [25:04] With the mayor's direction along with staff so far, what we're looking at, and again, we're going to talk to staff in Washington DC and the congressional offices to make sure all of these will still be a possibility. [25:20] But as of now, the funding projects that we are thinking about submitting are gunshot detection technology that we already have for the city. [25:30] It's expanding that, that's with our shot spotter system that we use. [25:34] And by the way, Mayor, as you remember, the Congress member came out and [25:38] toured the shot spotter and learned more about it, it's something that he's really, really interested in. [25:43] And then a new fire station actually in the southern part of the city is also something that I really think would be good for the city to focus on with the fires that happened in LA County, both the eating fire and the palisades fire fire funding is going to be something that [26:00] I think all US senators and all Congress members are going to want to support. [26:05] So a new fire station down in the southern part of the city is something that we really think would be a good opportunity for the city, especially in light of what happened earlier this year for the city to think about applying for. [26:18] And there's also some other federal grant opportunities that the city is considering. [26:25] Earlier this month, Mayor Vargas met with senior officials from the Department of Transportation in Washington DC. [26:32] There's a grant program called the Safe Streets and Roads for all program that we hope will be released later this spring. [26:39] That will be funding that could go towards mitigating traffic accidents by the way of putting in guard rails, [26:50] repaving potential crosswalks, funding along those lines. [26:54] And this is a grant program that I know that Mayor wants to make a priority. [26:59] And we'll keep you guys in the loop on that as we move forward. [27:04] And as I mentioned earlier this year, or last year, I should say Congressman Ticano, [27:09] visit the city to talk about that shot spotter technology. [27:12] With that funding in mind, we're also going to think about other funding that could [27:16] and go towards the shot spotter technology that the Department of Justice and other federal agencies may have. [27:24] Back in 2023, I did also want to just bring up one of the biggest things that we help organize are the council and the mayor's trips to Washington. [27:38] Both the US Conference of Mayors and the National League of Cities are really, really important conferences to attend. [27:44] And you can see here on the PowerPoint, the Congress member with the mayor and the mayor [27:53] Pro Tem, and then the photo on the right is actually meetings with senior officials [27:59] from the Department of Transportation, talking about the transportation needs of the city. [28:03] And then last year in 2024, the mayor returned to Washington with the assistance city manager, [28:10] and we had high level meetings again with Congressman Tukano at the National League of Cities and at the U.S. Conference of Mayors last year in early January. [28:22] And then also the mayor met with then Senator Lafonza Butler who I mentioned has just been taken over by Adam Schiff and then Senator Alex Padilla as well who's still in office. [28:32] So we're going to continue our advocacy for the city. [28:37] Obviously, we work well with Senator Schiff. [28:39] You can see the mayor there with Senator Schiff, and on the left there, the congressman being presented the Paris-Steeter portrait painting, I should say, by the mayor. [28:50] So, obviously, just making sure that the city is at the forefront of all things federal is our job, and we'll continue those efforts with the Trump administration. [29:01] Obviously, things are going to change a little bit than from the Biden administration, [29:05] but that's what we're here for to help and navigate somewhat uncharted water, [29:10] so you can clearly honest with you. [29:11] But that's what we're here for, and we will do the best that we can. [29:15] I think now more than ever is time to make sure that the City of Paris knows [29:20] that your elected officials are being proactive to go to Washington and fight for the needs of your residents. [29:29] And I see that every day from both staff and the mayor and council, so thank you all for your help and leadership. [29:35] Happy to answer any questions. [29:36] Thank you Jason. [29:37] Councilor Mabin, any questions? [29:41] All right, good, you're awesome. [29:43] Thank you mayor and thank you council members. [29:45] Thank you. [29:46] I appreciate your round, whatever you need anything. [29:50] All right, moving on, 9A is our approval of minutes, 9A is consideration to approve the minutes of the regular joint meeting. [30:00] All done, January 14, 2025, with the city council, successor agency redevelopment agencies and all the other entities as listed on our agenda. There are no questions or comments, council, I entertain a motion to approve. [30:43] for a separate action, we will have public comment limited at three minutes. [30:49] Constantly, we have anything they want to pull for a separate vote or discussion. [30:57] All right, so we're not going to be pulling anything from the consent calendar. [30:59] Madam Clerk, do we have any requests to speak? [31:01] Yes, sir, for item 10M, [31:09] Brian Faulkner. [31:20] Good evening, Mayor and Council members. [31:24] My name is Brian Faulkner, I represent the International Union Operating Engineers Local 12. [31:30] I'm here tonight to support the Community Workforce Agreement. [31:34] This agreement represents an investment into your community, and we have the opportunity [31:38] to maximize its benefits for its local residents. [31:42] Nothing is more important than working locally, staying off the freeway because your work is [31:46] an L.A., three to four hours a daily commute, up to five hours daily. [31:51] Nothing keeps a family together than working locally and getting home quicker. [31:56] A community workforce agreement can offer a range of benefits for both the community and [32:00] the workforce involved in a project. [32:02] Some of the key advantages include job creation and economic benefits. [32:09] CWA is often focused on creating local job opportunities particularly for the underrepresented [32:14] communities like our local veterans. [32:17] This can lead to improved local economic conditions and more skilled workforce. [32:22] Workforce development, CWA's typically include provisions for training and apprenticeship programs which help workers gain valuable skills, [32:32] certifications, and experience leading to a long-term career growth and mobility. [32:38] Diversity and inclusion, by requiring contractors to hire from certain local and [32:43] historically underrepresented groups, CWA's promote greater diversity in the workforce, [32:48] course, helping to address disparities and create more inclusive working environments. [32:56] Improved project outcomes because CWA is often involved in collaboration between stakeholders [33:01] such as contractors, unions and community organizations, they can result in a more efficient [33:05] project execution, better quality, quality and fewer labor disputes. [33:10] support for local business. The CWA prioritizes local hiring local workers and using local subcontractors, which can help stimulate the local economy and keep the money circulating within the community. [33:27] Stable employment, CWA's can lead to a more stable employment condition through negotiated [33:32] benefits, fair wages and job security, which can improve worker morale and retention. [33:41] Better labor management relations, CWA's often establish clear guidelines for labor relations, [33:48] reducing the potential for strikes and other conflicts and fostering a more cooperative [33:52] working environment. [33:54] Long-term community impact by fostering a skilled work, diverse workforce, and supporting local businesses. [34:02] CWA's can create lasting positive effects on social and economic fabric of a community, [34:07] contributing to its overall development. [34:10] I thank you for your time, and listen to me, thank you. [34:13] Thank you. [34:14] Madam Clerk, how many speakers do we have? [34:24] Six more. [34:26] Okay, I'm going to limit two minutes, guys. [34:28] This is on consent calendar item, no one has pulled it from the council, so if you can make your comments brief, it'd be great. [34:35] Or if you can skip them, it's your call. [34:39] Who's next? [34:39] Jose Isaldaia. [34:46] Good afternoon. [34:47] My name is Jose Isaldaia, I represent the Semin Mason's Local 500. [34:51] Council members, I urge you guys to go [34:57] forward with the renewal of the CWA for approval. [35:03] I'm here to tell you guys we have much to work, while we have much work to do in partnership [35:12] and grow together. [35:14] I urge you to approve the CWA, this agreement will benefit the community and have work done [35:21] by actual craftsmen. [35:22] Thank you. [35:23] Thank you. [35:24] William Shaver. [35:29] The second. [35:38] You may or in council. [35:40] My name is William Sharpe. [35:41] Second. [35:41] I'm a union trustee for Smart 105. [35:44] I'm here for the approval of the CWA. [35:47] And I'll forget about that. [35:48] Thank you. [35:49] Thank you. [35:52] Bill Schaver. [36:01] Good evening, Mr. Mayor and councilmembers. [36:05] I'll try to keep this brief, but I wanted to let you know that there's something that comes [36:08] from the heart. [36:09] That was my son that just got up here. [36:11] He's working on a CWA in Riverside. [36:13] That was approved by the Riverside Unified School District. [36:18] He's actually working close to home right now, and as a parent, [36:22] one of the most important things that we can do is be with our children when we have dinner. [36:27] To have dinner every night with your children. [36:29] And a lot of these brothers and sisters from the construction industry have spent hours and [36:34] hours on the road working in LA, San Diego, and points two to three hours away from our home. [36:41] And we do that as a daily commute. [36:43] And I've been in this industry for 40 years. [36:45] and I've done this for many, many years and that was one of the most important things that I could do was try to work close to home so that I could raise a good son and to raise a good family. [36:55] He's working on that next generation and what's great about the community workforce agreement, it gives us the opportunity to be able to work close to home. [37:03] I've been an Inland Empire resident for 60 years and 40 years in the construction industry. [37:09] And it does me proud when our leaders look at these community workforce agreements and [37:14] give us the workers an opportunity to not just work in the area, but [37:19] also to have a chance to get a viable career in the construction industry and be able to work close to home. [37:27] So I thank you for your consideration on this matter at this time. [37:31] and I hope you have a great evening. [37:33] Thank you. [37:35] Jose Herrera. [37:39] You don't have to repeat that, they're clapping. [37:41] Jose Herrera. [37:47] Any mayor and council members? [37:50] I am here today in support of renewing the CWA. [37:55] I'm here representing the cement mason's and operator plasters. [38:01] We have had a great success with the CWA in place. [38:11] We've also had a great success keeping people working where they live and having them being able to obtain more time with their families. [38:22] We also have had several success, excuse me, putting local apprentices and giving local residents the opportunity in the construction trades. [38:34] being able to make a decent living and having great benefits for their families and themselves. [38:43] Keeping local people working close to their own homes also keeps boosting the local economy. [38:51] So I strongly urge that you keep this community workforce agreement in place and thank you for your [38:57] time. Thank you. [39:01] Albert Duarte. [39:09] Good evening. Mayor Vargas, Council [39:12] members and staff. [39:14] Thank you for this opportunity to speak. [39:17] I'm the business manager for the building trades just started in December. [39:23] And part of, I'm proud to represent these guys, right? [39:26] They're skilled and trained workers, right? [39:28] And that's a loud statement. [39:31] What my commitment is is to outreach to the high schools, to the community, [39:36] to the people that don't have a good trade right now or a skill, right? [39:41] There's a lot of opportunity that we have to offer, but it can only be done by community [39:47] workforce agreements. [39:48] And fortunately, we have support from around the Inland Empire. [39:53] So the people that are going to work and that we're going to hire are going to be able to work [39:57] close to home. [39:59] What Bill said, we all work in LA because they're predominantly project labor agreements, right? [40:08] So that's where we travel. [40:09] But now it's time for us to work here. [40:13] So I just thank you for the support that you guys have given us and all that you've done. [40:18] So thank you. [40:19] Thank you. [40:22] Robert, Ramos. [40:32] I'm back for the Reckon Sendino. [40:34] Anyways, I'm going to keep it real brief. [40:37] My union partners over there is pretty much summed it up. [40:41] I'm just going to want you to paint this picture. [40:43] and over 30 years time, I traveled on the highways 29,750 hours. [40:51] That's a lot of time away from my family. [40:53] With this community workforce agreement, we'll keep future tradesmen closer to home, [41:01] stimulate the local economy. [41:03] So with that, I'll end it and I hope you're consideration tonight. [41:08] Thank you. [41:08] Thank you. [41:09] That is all. [41:10] All right, [41:13] Council, there's no more discussion. [41:16] Councilman Rab, may I put 10 Rab? [41:19] I just like to think they're all the speaker for coming out today to speak in support of item M. [41:23] I will fully support item M. Item M has been supported in the past. [41:27] I just for the record, when something's on consent calendar, the council is not pulling it. [41:31] It's most likely going to get passed in total. [41:33] But we appreciate your comments and thank you for coming out tonight. [41:38] Councilman Corolla. [41:41] Yeah, just want to briefly kind of give everyone a quick history. [41:45] City of Paris was one of the first cities in the whole area to do a project labor agreement. [41:50] We did that in 2017, and then about a year and a half later, then we did a CWA. [41:55] With the reason why we're here, it just expired. [41:57] I think the City of Paris has always been a pro labor. [42:00] We definitely support quality work and quality workers, so I'm full support of this. [42:04] Thank you. [42:05] But [42:11] this whole council has been like that for over eight years, so there's nothing more to say. [42:17] All right, so I'm looking, this time there's no more discussion, council, I need a motion and a second. [42:26] And this is for item 10A all the way through 10O, a motion by Mayor Pro Temraub, second by councilman Delay. [42:36] Hope please call it up. [42:42] 5L motion approved. [42:45] Thank you. [42:50] Item 11 is our public hearings. [42:52] 10A is considered to introduce the first reading of proposed ordinance number, next in order. [42:58] A many municipal code section 2.37.040 regarding compensation of planning commissioners. [43:04] This will be presented or introduced by our director of administrative services. [43:09] Saida Amorskar. [43:11] Good evening, Mayor, members of the City Council. [43:14] Council. This item here before you is to consider the first reading of ordinance number [43:19] next in order, amending code section 2.37.040 regarding compensation of planning commissioners. [43:29] At the September 24, 2024 City Council meeting, Councilman Corona requested that staff bring [43:37] back an item to discuss an adjustment to the planning commission compensation pursuant [43:43] to government code. [43:45] Staff conducted a survey of planning commission compensation of surrounding cities with the results [43:51] appearing on the screen. [43:54] The planning commission requires commissioners to commit personal time to the review and planning [44:00] process of the planning commission meeting agendas two times every month. [44:06] As such, the compensation may be adjusted to make it easier for the average city resident [44:12] to serve on the planning commission due to inflation and increase costs of living. [44:18] In consideration of this and the survey results, staff recommends the proposed ordinance to the planning commissioners' compensation from $100 per meeting to $150 per regular meeting, with a corresponding increase in the monthly compensation limit from $200 to $300 per commissioner per month. [44:42] As the Planning Commission holds two regular meetings each month. [44:46] If the City Council wishes to change this compensation limit, staff will update the proposed ordinance accordingly. [44:54] This concludes my presentation and I can answer any questions you may have. [44:58] Thank you. [44:58] Thank you, Senator. [44:59] Council. [45:00] May I have any questions or open up the public hearing? [45:05] In your research, I don't know if you came across it. Was there a situation? I know some school boards do this, where if you don't attend the meeting, you don't get compensated, you get compensated half way or is there anything like that? [45:18] Not in my research. No, we didn't inquire about that. Do you have any information on that? If they don't attend to me, they're not compensated for that. It's not compensated. It's a tent to get paid. [45:29] Okay, yes, okay, it's paid per meeting. [45:32] Gotcha, thank you. [45:34] Any other questions? [45:35] Anybody else? [45:38] All right, I'm open at the public hearing, [45:43] 731. [45:44] Madam Clerk, do I have any questions to speak? [45:46] No, sir. [45:47] I'm going to be wishing to speak on this item. [45:50] Hearing and seeing now, I'm going to close the public hearing at 731. [45:58] Is there no more discussion? [45:59] I'm going to entertain a motion, but I would like to entertain a [46:09] suggestion. [46:10] to incorporate, I mean, one's the last time they got a rate that they have ever been [46:16] adjusted. I mean, I've been here for 20 years and they've never been adjusted. [46:19] I was going to say I don't have information, it's been a long time. [46:23] So, I mean, obviously they're not here to make money, but it's compensates them for gasoline [46:27] and gas has gone up very high. Some of our commissioners are coming from work, [46:31] from out of the city, you know, so forth. But so [46:38] like us, we have to bring it up for our [46:40] So the attorney for our raises, we have to bring it up for a CPI adjustment and it has to be done before an election and blah, blah, blah. [46:49] Does that apply to appointed commissioners? [46:53] I don't believe it does. [46:55] Okay. [46:55] Is there, can we do a stipulation that besides increasing this to 150 that we look at it with the CPI increase every two years? [47:08] There's a thing, maybe, everybody's good with that? [47:14] CPI includes every two years. [47:17] So whoever makes the motion, if you can include that, [47:20] I appreciate it. [47:23] Yeah, comment, council member, may I put them? [47:25] I think it sounds good, but we could be in a situation [47:29] where there may be as hyperinflation [47:30] and we're kind of tying the hands of future councils. [47:33] I think the ordinance said anywhere between, [47:35] was like 150 to 200. [47:38] So the council can just re-examinate every two years, much like we do with our salary. [47:45] Well, I mean, you can put the word, no one saying it has to be done. [47:49] I'm just saying I don't want to see this go on like the council did for over 10 years and never get an increase. [47:54] So I want to protect the budget and the rights to our appointed persons. [48:02] So I don't mind how everything is. [48:05] I just don't want to see this go on again for another 20 years and they never get an increase and gasoline and 20 years is now $30 a gallon. [48:13] I mean, you know, I agree. Just one clarifying question here for the city attorney or Madam City Manager, is if we establishes with ordinance and the ordinance sets out the parameters, if we want to raise it, it would just be a resolution in the future, as long as it stays in those parameters, correct? [48:30] Yes, that's correct, and you can put that in the ordinance and to address the CPI concern, [48:36] you could just say, for every two years, staff shall bring back recommendations of an increase. [48:44] In that way, there's flexibility as to, and then the increase can be set via resolution. [48:49] That's how we can draft the ordinance. [48:51] I would agree with that. [48:52] That's not great. [48:52] That's exactly what my intentions were. [48:54] So for a quick question, I mean, they're not meeting twice a month, right? [48:59] I mean, normally they do, but they go every, so they have 24 meetings a year. [49:04] In that 24. [49:05] Not 24, but we might, they've, his or she missed maybe a couple of meetings per year. [49:10] So, but his story could be, they've had two meetings for a month. [49:14] Okay, because I'm trying to match it up and you know, you know, I was actually under the [49:17] pressure and I was that they were getting compensated $100 per month, but it's actually $100 per [49:23] meeting kind of line with other cities. I don't know. Sorry, I have another clarifying question. [49:29] For all the other cities, do they also meet two times a month or does it, does it vary [49:34] city per city? It depends. I know that we just because we communicate with [49:41] men if they, they don't meet as often as we do, it just depends on the volume of work that's [49:46] in the city. [49:53] All right. No one else has any more questions. I have [49:56] We're looking for a second. [49:58] Can you clarify the motion again at one more time? [50:02] Yes, if you can. [50:03] The motion is to adopt the ordinance, giving the increase recommended by staff. [50:11] But add a provision that says every two years staff is to analyze and [50:17] bring back two council, a recommendation for potential adjustments, stipend adjustment. [50:23] and that can be adopted via resolution. [50:30] All right, looking for a motion. [50:33] I have motion by Councilwoman Navas, [50:34] second by Mayor Pro Temeram, please call the vote. [50:45] 5O motion approved. [50:47] Thank you. [50:49] 11B is consideration to adopt proposed resolution number [50:51] numbers next in order and introduce a first reading [50:54] of proposed ordinance numbers next in order. [50:57] Regarding general plan amendment GPA, [50:59] 24-0-5-206 specific plan amendments SPA, [51:03] 24-0-5207 zoning and subdivision amendments, 24-0-5184, as a proposal to amend the general plan, green billy specific plan, downtown specific plan zoning and subdivision codes to establish a housing opportunity areas overlay, HO-AO-Zone, subject to affordability requirements and to amend existing land use regulations to remove unduly constraints to streamline housing development. [51:34] in accordance with the applicable state housing laws, and this is going to be presented by our director of development services, Mr. Kenneth Fung. [51:44] Good evening mayor, this item will be presented by our planning manager Patricia Brennis. [51:50] Good evening, honorable mayor, council member city staff. [51:54] As you mentioned mayor, the project comes to you with a four vote, four vote from the planning commission recommending that the city council. [52:04] approve the Housing Implementation Project, which is a follow through obligation of the city's housing element, approved on January 25, 2022. [52:15] Aimed at a streamline in the process for housing and identified housing opportunity areas to accommodate 7800 units required by the state. [52:24] This [52:28] project will fulfill the city's obligation for approval of the housing element by implementing an overlay zone for the housing opportunity areas and amending the land use regulations to streamline the process for residential development and for compliance with the state law. [52:48] The housing opportunity areas were selected and approved by the City Council when the housing element was adopted in 2022. [52:57] With implementation of the overlay zone, property owners would have the opportunity to develop [53:02] a density that's allowed by the underlying zone, and also activate or also activate [53:08] the overlay zone without having to process a zone change. [53:14] Amendment are proposed with this project to remove barriers and facilitate affordable housing [53:20] in the city. [53:23] A mitigated negative declaration was prepared for this project, in compliance with SIGWA, [53:28] and receive five letters and a phone call regarding this project. [53:32] None of the letters or comments received raised additional issues that haven't already been addressed in the mitigated negative declaration or the environmental documents. [53:43] So with that, staff recommends that the City Council adopt resolution for adoption of the mitigated negative declaration and the mitigation monitoring and reporting program. [53:53] Adopt resolution for adoption of the general plan amendment amending the land use element. [53:58] Introduce ordinances, approving amendments to the Green Valley specific plan, downtown specific plan, zoning code and map, [54:06] and the subdivision code to provide opportunities for affordable housing and remove constraints on housing development. [54:13] And that concludes staff's presentation. [54:15] I'm happy to answer any questions. [54:17] Thank you, Patricia. [54:19] Council, any quick questions or comments for open up public hearing? [54:24] All right, seeing nobody in the queue, we're going to open up the public hearing at 739. [54:31] I'm quick, do we have any requests to speak? [54:33] No, sir. [54:34] Anybody wishing to speak on this item in the audience? [54:38] Here in the scene then, we close the public hearing at 739, and I'll come back to the council [54:45] for any comments, questions, and then we're going to call for a motion on the two [54:51] Resolutions in the first reading of the four ordinances. [54:54] I [54:58] have a motion by Councilwoman Nala. [55:02] And a second by Mayor Pro Temrab. [55:08] Please call the vote. [55:15] Feather, motion approved. [55:16] Thank you. [55:20] 12 A, we took care of already. [55:22] 12 B is consideration to adopt proposed resolution that's the number. [55:25] We've reverted to the state mandate default campaign contribution limits and [55:28] other campaign regulations set by Assembly Bill number 571, AB 571, and [55:34] in repealing resolution number 6027. [55:38] This will be introduced by [55:44] our city attorney, Sonny Sultani. [55:48] Thank you, Mayor. [55:49] And I just realized the staff reports don't come on my screen. [55:54] Clara, oh wait, hold on. [55:57] There's a presentation. [55:58] Oh, [56:01] do you, can you cover it, yeah, sorry. [56:06] Good evening, Mayor and Council members. [56:09] This item 12b is consideration to adopt campaign contribution limits. [56:18] It does include a repeal resolution in 2022, the City Council did adopt new campaign limits [56:28] which increased what's above the AB 571. [56:33] And at the request of Councilman Corona, staff is bringing this item back to reconsider the [56:38] contribution limits. There's also an alternate resolution that does allow you to approve a [56:45] contribution limit even below the AB 571 thresholds if that's what the Council desires [56:50] to do. So with that, this is a discussion item. [56:57] And we would ask for direction and we will [57:01] bring tonight to connectionally adopt the ordinance with the new contribution limits as [57:06] is a public hearing item. [57:10] That's it. [57:10] All right, thank you. [57:12] Madam Clerk, or Councilman, may I have any quick questions or comments if we're open at the public hearing? [57:18] Yes, I have a question. [57:19] Or call for a public comment, I should say. [57:21] Yes, go ahead. [57:22] Yes, in drafting the resolution to repeal ordinance, I'm sorry, resolution 6027. [57:29] Was there any discussion on simply keeping 6027 but amending section 5, subsection A, I believe it says, [57:36] There's no person she'll make a candidate for City elected office or to a controlled committee of that candidate. [57:42] A campaign contribution to totaling more than $20,000 for election. [57:47] Was there any discussion maybe bringing that down to be a knowledge of the state level that's set by AB 571? [57:54] Do you want me to respond? [57:56] So we're leaving that in your discretion. [57:59] So essentially you have two resolution before you tonight. [58:02] One of them allows you to just keep it at the state level, [58:07] if I'm pursuing to that, one of them allows you to set a different limit. [58:13] It could be lower, higher, we've left it blank for the council to deliberate on the side. [58:19] Okay, another question. [58:20] If we were to adopt the state regulation, I didn't see any language about candidates being able to transfer funds for [58:28] different positions within the state. [58:30] Say, for instance, the Paracity Council candidate raises money for the Paracity Council does not extend all that money, and say, for instance, they want to run for state assembly or state supervisor or a judge or any other position that they are allowed to transfer the funds in would adopting AB 571 instead of amending resolution 6027 with that hamstring candidate from transferring over funds to a future campaign. [58:57] No, because in the resolution, we clarify that all other applicable state laws remain and it would be pursuant to other state laws. [59:07] Okay, thank you. [59:11] Anybody else? [59:13] Yeah, you know, when we were presented this in 2022, there was a very robust presentation. [59:19] We were comparing other cities and anything like that. [59:21] Do we have, is there a presentation? [59:25] Or is this just a staff report? [59:28] We have actually checked and nothing in the other cities has changed. [59:34] We had that, where is the chart? [59:39] I thought it was, it wasn't an attack. [59:41] We didn't make an attachment to the staff report. [59:44] I shared the updated chart, no, we don't, I did not put together a presentation of sorry [59:53] Councilman Corona but we did verify that no surrounding city has changed. [1:00:00] I've changed from that time, and I can pull it up on my email. I have it somewhere, if you're interested in having a discussion about that. No, no, no, I think I remember it from that time. We're just thinking for the public, for transparency reasons, but I'm okay. That's the only question that. Actually, can you pull it? Because I wasn't aware, and that would be great for me to understand more from. [1:00:25] Or if I may add, is there a staffer who could kind of revisit what the discussion was back then and and and just a good provider refresher for our newest council member and for the public? [1:00:38] Would you like me to explain what the law was back then and so prior to prior to AB 571 cities would set their own campaign cut. [1:00:54] There was no limits, there was no campaign contribution limits, and anybody could donate however much they want it to. [1:01:00] Then in 2019, the California legislature passed the law AB 571 which essentially set the state of California a setting a limit of $5,900 for campaign contributions. [1:01:15] However, we can allow a public agency to set its own limits lower or higher than that. [1:01:23] If the public agencies don't adopt a resolution by, you know, back then I forgot the date [1:01:31] what it was, it was October of 2019, setting their own limit then state law would apply, [1:01:37] which would limit it at 5,900. [1:01:40] A lot of cities wanted a higher campaign donation limits, so they adopted resolutions that set [1:01:47] their limits at higher limits. [1:01:51] And at that time when the item was brought to the city of Paris, I was in the city attorney but my understanding is the council decided we're going to set a $20,000 limit. [1:02:02] So councilman Corona, then want it to bring this item back to consider it and staff since we didn't know which way the council would want to go, we've provided you with two resolutions. [1:02:17] One resolution would repeal your resolution that sets it at $20,000, and if you do that, simply state law applies, which means the limit will be $5,900. [1:02:30] But the second resolution allows you to set a different limit than the $20,000 you had, but it can be lower or higher than the state limit. [1:02:41] That's 5,900. [1:02:42] The AB 571 does several other things, and I've listed all eight of them in the staff report. [1:02:51] For example, candidate cannot make a campaign contribution to another candidate subject to AB 571 in excess of the state contribution limit, a candidate that has qualified as a committee must establish a separate controlled committee and campaign mag account for each specific office. [1:03:08] This candidates may transfer campaign funds from one controlled committee to another controlled committee. [1:03:14] Candidates cannot personally loan money to their own campaign in an amount which exceeds $100,000. [1:03:21] An elected city official may establish a committee to oppose a recall measure and [1:03:27] election as soon as the official receives a notice of intent against them and can accept contributions without regard to the state limitations. [1:03:34] Candidates can accept contributions after the date of the election only to extend that contribution does not exceed net that's outstanding from the election and the contribution do not otherwise exceed the state's limitations. [1:03:49] Candidates may carry over contributions raised with one election to pay campaign expenditures incurred with another subsequent election. [1:03:58] and finally candidate for elective city office may raise contributions for general election [1:04:03] before the primary election and for special general election before special primary election [1:04:09] for the same elective city office if the candidate sets aside those contributions and uses those [1:04:15] contributions for the general election or the special general election. Under both scenarios of your [1:04:22] ordinance. We are, we've drafted it in such that all these other state laws remain in effect [1:04:30] because they're responsible rules to have. So they would not go away. [1:04:39] And Councilmember Crona, we just uploaded the survey. Thank you. [1:04:44] All right. Any bail? Any questions? Yes, ma'am. [1:04:48] Thank you. My question for Seni is if we set our own limits that aren't followed, that aren't the recommendation of the FPPC, who would be responsible for enforcing that if we set our own limits, I'm under the impression that they will no longer police that if you will. [1:05:08] So the city would have to review it and look at it, but if it's in violation of that, it could still be reported to FVPC as well. [1:05:20] Okay. Okay. [1:05:22] And residents could report it to FVPC and FVPC itself can look at your resolution and enforce it. [1:05:29] So the enforcement mechanisms don't change. [1:05:32] Okay. So if we state our own amount that isn't in line with that, do we need to add maybe something in the language because I mean it's for residents to kind of go through our website and try to find it, you have to, you know, take various steps and click among the website. [1:05:50] But is there a mechanism where maybe perhaps our city clerk will be able to flag it in case, you know, we'll give them the benefit of that. [1:05:58] They didn't know that they had received contributions greater than the set limit or [1:06:08] who the contributions get reported on your form 700. [1:06:13] So a lot of times it's after you received the contribution and really it is the elected officials responsibility and elected officials treasures responsibility to make sure they're keeping track. [1:06:30] I don't think you can really shift that onto the city. [1:06:33] So then, if we were to stick with the FEPC recommendation, then they would be the ones to- [1:06:40] They're the watchdogs. [1:06:41] They're the watchdogs, but even in that situation, they're elected official and the treasure [1:06:47] are responsible for making sure they're not getting campaign contributions beyond that. [1:06:51] It's always your own responsibility to make sure you're complying with FEPC. [1:06:56] But what she's saying if you follow the state policy that's there are the watchdogs if you get something [1:07:01] They would be the watchdogs, but but I think she was asking me if FEPC would send them a notice saying you're going beyond [1:07:07] They would do it after you've collected it and it would probably be your in violation at that point [1:07:13] So it's still your responsibility to make sure you're not getting beyond [1:07:16] The limits that you're allowed to collect. Okay, and the reason why I'm asking is just you know [1:07:23] Because we are in the discussion and I'm not sure if I'm leaning one way or another in regards to I just want to make sure that the donations are followed and if folks [1:07:36] which route to go, right, if we pick our own amount, would the FPPC still be involved because that wasn't clear on the agenda? [1:07:46] Yes, they would definitely be involved. [1:07:48] Okay, thank you. [1:07:51] Anybody else? [1:07:52] Let me open up for public comment. [1:07:54] Do you have any requests to speak? [1:07:55] Yes, sir. [1:07:57] Ashley Barton. [1:08:01] Let me speak as way up for this item. [1:08:03] Just one. [1:08:04] Okay. [1:08:05] You're on Ashley. [1:08:06] Just me. [1:08:08] Okay, so I am a former Huntington Beach resident. [1:08:12] I moved here in 2002. [1:08:14] That same year, Huntington Beach had voted to change their campaign contribution limit. [1:08:19] from $620 to the state regulated limit of $5,900, which is the default, and that decision [1:08:31] in itself at that time sent absolute shockwaves through my old, very rich community. [1:08:40] So let's see, so who could imagine my disbelief finding that this little working classity [1:08:45] of Paris has a campaign contribution limit of $20,000, it blew my absolute mind. [1:08:54] When I did my basic research, other campaign contribution limits that are also $20,000, [1:09:01] the Board of Directors for Alameda County, that's over a million and a half residents. [1:09:10] So that might make sense, but I don't understand what we have in common with at least Alameda County enough to validate and, you know, to justify such a high set amount. [1:09:23] So I'm really urging you to repeal it. I think the state mandated limit is absolutely appropriate, especially for how much on average, like our meeting income. [1:09:35] what is that our median income is around 78,000 and then for reference, [1:09:39] Huntington Beach's median income is 115,000. [1:09:44] So please do the right thing, please revert that. [1:09:49] Can we go back to what is stated as normal, what was just shown is most places around us are [1:09:57] also that way and we are not Riverside and we are not Marino Valley. [1:10:01] So please vote to get money out of politics. [1:10:04] It would really just foster trust in the community. [1:10:07] Thank you so much. [1:10:09] Thank you. [1:10:11] All right, Council, any further discussion? [1:10:15] Yeah. [1:10:15] Councilmember Corona? [1:10:19] I did have staff kind of looking to see, you know, all the contributions since 2020. [1:10:24] And, you know, especially after 2022, the influx of large amount of money. [1:10:31] Now, keep in mind, a resident here could write me a check for $20,000, but most residents [1:10:39] in our city, I stated before, residents are not, no resident of Paris ever donated $20,000. [1:10:47] We know who donated $20,000. [1:10:50] People from outside the county were, and I would be honest, July 26, 2022, it was a quiet [1:10:57] meeting. [1:10:57] Nobody ever came to the meeting, no one ever really spoke up about it. [1:11:02] And to me, one of the most embarrassing meetings, I was ashamed to be on here at the time. [1:11:09] I was sick to my stuff, I just couldn't believe it. [1:11:11] But I knew it was going to happen, and it happened, right? [1:11:15] But I just want to stick to the fact, looking at all the cities, looking at the cities of our size, looking at our, [1:11:21] I know for campaigns, it does cost money, we do know that. [1:11:24] It doesn't need that much money, though. [1:11:25] So, you've got to work hard, you've got to knock on doors, you've got to talk to people, and you can see from the majority of people here that, you know, a lot of people don't have donations of $20,000. [1:11:37] So, looking at that, I think, you know, of all the donations I saw, I think $2,500 is appropriate for a city of our size in our economic situation here, but I'm going to motion for that. [1:11:53] I need a bit of else. [1:11:55] Consumnet on Mayor Plotan-Rabb said motion for the 2,500 is that keeping resolution 6027 but amending the contribution limit from 20,000 to 2,500? [1:12:10] Yeah, so let's go in from putting a campaign limit from 20,000 to 2,500. [1:12:18] I am an agreement that we should keep 6027. [1:12:23] I think we should maybe go with something a little bit more. [1:12:27] I know the state limit is, it was 4,900 in 2022. [1:12:30] I think it's gone up with the CPI. [1:12:33] Maybe we can do something along the lines of 5,000. [1:12:37] So I'm okay with going to 2,500, but then do a CPI increase. [1:12:43] I think that'd be more appropriate. [1:12:44] So it will go up as with inflation, but 2,500 with the CPI, I think that would be appropriate. [1:12:56] I would just say just go stick with the state and let them deal with it so we don't have to burden more of our city clerk, [1:13:06] but still looking for a motion on some kind of item. [1:13:10] So I've had a motion for 2,500 with the CPI increase. [1:13:14] Is there a second? [1:13:16] Aye second. [1:13:18] Call the vote. [1:13:33] Nava, Corona, Bayejo, yes. [1:13:36] Raab, Vargas, no. [1:13:38] Thank you very much. [1:13:41] Moving on to item 12c, consideration to discussion regarding an ordinance addressing prohibited campaign and encampment removal procedure. [1:13:49] This will be introduced by a director of economic development and housing, Michelle Ovala. [1:13:54] Yes, good evening, Mayor and members of the council. [1:13:56] I'd like to introduce Dr. Sarah Cortez-Depevone, our principal management analyst in the housing division to present this item. [1:14:02] Welcome, Dr.. [1:14:04] Good evening, our Mayor, members of the city council and city staff. [1:14:08] The item before you today is for an unlawful camping ordinance discussion. [1:14:13] Some background in the 2018 Martin B. Boise case role, then forcing camping regulations that criminalize certain activities by homeless individuals, [1:14:22] such as sleeping, sitting, standing, and eating on public property violated the Eighth Amendment's prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment. [1:14:32] Under the Johnson v. Grant's past case on June 28th, 2024, the Supreme Court ruled that enforcing these camping regulations against homeless individuals is not cruel and unusual punishment, impacting the Martin v. Boise case, thereby allowing governments to begin enforcing camping regulations. [1:14:57] On July 25, 2024, California [1:15:00] The Governor Newsom issued an executive order in response to the grant's past decision ordering local governments to urgently address homeless encampments. [1:15:10] Some of the executive order highlights include having agencies to adopt policies and plan consistent with the Cal Trans existing ordinance. Whenever feasible, a side assessment should be done in advance to determine whether an encampment poses an immediate threat to life, health, safety, or infrastructure, such that exigent circumstances require immediate [1:15:32] ambient removal and where these exigent circumstances exist as much advanced notice [1:15:38] to vacate as reasonable under the circumstances. [1:15:42] Where there are no accident circumstances, posting of a notice to vacate at least 48 hours [1:15:47] in advance should be done and contacting of service providers to request outreach services [1:15:53] for persons experiencing homelessness at the encampment should be done. [1:15:57] In addition, collecting, labeling, and storage of personal property for at least 60 days should [1:16:05] be done. [1:16:07] Please note that this executive order indicates that the governor's office will issue [1:16:11] more direct guidelines, which could entail an ordinance amendment at a later date. [1:16:17] Staff has met with the governor's representatives and were advised that guidelines are forthcoming [1:16:22] but we do not have a date of when they will be available. [1:16:25] The [1:16:29] City Attorney's Office did draft an unlawful campaign ordinance, and it is in lines with the Cal Trans Ordinance as requested in the executive order, and it is to cover homelessness within the city. [1:16:41] Please note also that the grants past decision only overturned the cruel and unusual punishment applicability to campaign ordinances, and any ordinances drafted in response must comply with the pre-Martin V. Boise ruling constitutional requirements in regards to avoiding penalties. [1:16:57] such as excessive fines that do violate the a th amendment. [1:17:05] The city draft ordinance is applicable to any city property which is defined as all property, [1:17:11] parks, right of ways, parking lots, easements or other land owned, [1:17:16] least controlled or managed by the city. [1:17:19] It does require prior written approval of the city to camp on city property and [1:17:24] violations shall be in infraction subject to an administrative citation. [1:17:28] Further, it categorizes encampments into two levels. [1:17:32] Priority level one is, will identify more critical conditions, [1:17:36] warranting urgent removal, and priority level two will identify areas to address but without urgency. [1:17:43] It also includes law enforcement and service providers such as sitting at to be notified in advance to conduct an assessment to determine the priority level, as well as when abatement operations take place. [1:17:55] Further, the city draft ordinance requires a notice to vacate, to vacate, be posted. [1:18:02] This requires a 48 hour notice in advance for priority level two. [1:18:07] If the removal does not begin on the date posted, the location must be reposted and the 48 hours [1:18:13] will start all over. [1:18:15] There is no posting requirement for priority level one encampments. [1:18:20] The draft also requires that personal property is to be held for 60 days. [1:18:24] and also procedure requirements and record keeping processes are fairly involved and mainly carry a set timeframes to remain in compliance. [1:18:34] For instance, upon removal of an encampment, a summary report must be filed with the city clerk's office within one week. [1:18:41] The current draft is written for city manager or designate direction to set these processes and identify responsible parties among city staff. [1:18:50] This [1:18:53] draft ordinance was taken to the Homelessness Task Force Committee on October 22nd of last year and the Public Safety Committee on November 8th of last year for discussion and feedback. [1:19:02] The Homelessness Task Force Committee responded with three items. [1:19:06] One was to increase the required period for holding personal property from 60 days to 90 days to be an alignment with the current Riverside County Sheriff's policy. [1:19:15] The second was for repeat offenders, a third offense will entail a ban from all city [1:19:20] parks for a period of one year and the city will no longer hold or store their personal [1:19:25] property. [1:19:27] And the third was to include language to address unpermitted RV parking on city streets. [1:19:34] The public safety committee also responded with three items. [1:19:37] The first was to include language that the ordinance will apply to all educational institutions [1:19:42] K-12, community colleges, vocational schools, et cetera, as well as public facilities including [1:19:48] public library property, fire station property, sheriff station property, daycare centers and [1:19:54] facility serving the youth and places of worship. The second was any violation of the ordinance [1:20:00] to be addressed as a misdemeanor. And the third was to revise the section regarding [1:20:05] encampment assessment action items and considerations to include the city's homelessness outreach [1:20:10] each service provider such as municipal code enforcement, parks division, or other staff as applicable. [1:20:20] The City of Riverside adopted an encampment ordinance on October 22nd of last year in response to the Johnson V grant pass decision. [1:20:28] The Riverside ordinance does not allow camping or encampment within two blocks as long as signs are visibly posted of a school but only K through 12. [1:20:38] This does not include vocational or higher education schools. [1:20:41] Also, it does not allow campion or encampment within two blocks of a shelter, or where the city manager determines there is a substantial public health and safety risk long assigns are visibly posted, and also in the wildland urban interface. [1:20:57] Also note that in this section there isn't a listed definition, but the language states that the public property includes only any street, sidewalk, park, and open space, unless specifically authorized by the city manager. [1:21:10] Further, [1:21:15] the Riverside ordinance does not outline an assessment of encampments, so there's no priority level one or two. [1:21:20] Ordinance, the ordinance treats any encampment as a violation. [1:21:25] It also does require a minimum 24 hour written notice of cleanup to be posted. [1:21:30] And if an abatement is the later rescheduled, the city manager may conduct the abatement within 48 hours of the original 24 hour posting without having to be post a new notice of cleanup. [1:21:42] However, if it goes beyond the 48 hours, then a new notice of cleanup must be posted. [1:21:50] The Riverside Ordinance also allows for a three-hour expedited abatement by posting a notice of cleanup. [1:21:56] And Ordinance violations may be prosecuted as misdemeanors or infractions. [1:22:03] Staff recommendation is for City Council to discuss and provide direction to staff regarding an ordinance addressing prohibited camping and [1:22:11] an incantement removal procedures. [1:22:13] This concludes my presentation. [1:22:18] Thank you, doctor. [1:22:20] Council, any quick questions or comments before I call for public comment? [1:22:24] Mayor Prattem. [1:22:28] Yes, more on the lines of a question. [1:22:30] I know when we had this discussion that the public safety meeting, [1:22:33] we included places of worship. [1:22:35] Would that exclude a place of worship saying if they have a church parking lot and they say, [1:22:39] hey, we're going to let these homeless people set up their tents as long as they're orderly? [1:22:43] Could we maybe draft an exception for that we wanted to? [1:22:50] That's up to us. [1:22:52] Okay, permit now. [1:22:53] And then the other question was, there was a potential of like RVs on city roads. [1:22:57] Could we just limit that to maybe commercial roads and arterial roads? [1:23:02] Because my concern is if you're marginally housed and you have an RV and you want to park [1:23:07] it like among a bunch of warehouses or a malbert lane or one of those streets, I personally [1:23:11] think you should, as long as you're operable and you're moving, you park there because I think [1:23:16] that's going to be a lot of issue with a lot of seniors, especially generation X. A lot of them [1:23:19] didn't really say for retirement. So a lot of them are going to be like on the fringes. So I just [1:23:24] don't want to be an issue where, you know, if you have your RV, you park it there, you move it away [1:23:28] to the next site. I don't see an issue with that. My main concern is the habitually homeless. When [1:23:34] I visited St. Louis a few years ago, they had their tents out, but at 7 a.m., they were putting [1:23:39] your tents away. Here, it seems in California, we have an issue where people think they can [1:23:42] just be posted somewhere. It's not like you're set your tent up at fossil park at 10 o'clock, [1:23:47] and at 7 a.m., you're putting it away, you're on your business. So that's my two concerns. I [1:23:53] don't really have an issue with the homeless camping per se if they were to camp and they cleaned up [1:23:59] their mess and they were about their way. But I think what's happened in the last 20 years is this is [1:24:03] more of a comment, is that the homeless felt free carte blanche just to take over public spaces. [1:24:07] We all pay for taxes so that we can use the parks, so that the children can use the parks. [1:24:13] But you got a lot of these people here that just feel like they're entitled to be out there in San Bernardino. [1:24:17] They've taken over metal-brook park, they've taken over a lot of these parks and the city just lets it happen. [1:24:22] These people are doing drugs there, they're assaulting women there, they're just doing a bunch of crazy stuff. [1:24:27] So it's just my two concerns, I just wanted to- [1:24:31] What's the language on the RV that was recommended? [1:24:35] And I think there was discussion on it in terms of areas. [1:24:40] I was honest with that. [1:24:41] Just said to include language to address unpermitted RV parking on streets. [1:24:45] So you can insert the kind of language that you would like. [1:24:49] So my recommendation would be in line with the other comments where it talks about not being parked at a park or near a school K through 12 or higher institutions. [1:24:59] But like you said, somewhere that's not in those, if you would, sensitive areas. [1:25:04] And I would also include residential streets for instance, someone could say you have like, you know, a rider or say one of the streets in like May Ranch area, they could technically park in front of the house that you own. That's in just your RV. That's different, I think. [1:25:24] And that is how it is supposed to go, you can't put it out straight. [1:25:28] Yeah, along with that topic, I would want to add for the RV overnight stay if to ensure that the sidewalks are clear to not have that rolled out, you know, bring out chairs and whatnot. [1:25:42] Yeah, because they have those that, where they extend out. [1:25:44] Right, so just thank you. [1:25:45] The potential public safety. [1:25:46] Yeah, they could just stay contained within the RV and keep the area clean. [1:25:51] Well, I don't, in purposes of encampments in homeless, I don't think they should be permitted in the residential areas. [1:26:01] And I don't know if you want to just say it's allowed in industrial. [1:26:07] I don't know how we want to word that, but I mean, that's kind of what we're focusing is pushing them into the logistical areas. [1:26:15] If I may, Mayor, one way to address that would be to just put a restriction on residential area so it leaves it open, I mean it's unsaid, it's unwritten, but it's, well, it's gotta be, but we need to protect the residential areas, K through 12, the church is all that stuff that's listed on this, put that in there and just leave it like that, that's a good idea. [1:26:36] Yeah, Councilman Rapp, Polarana. [1:26:39] Yeah, so I do want to be careful. [1:26:41] I mean, we're saying, hey, you can go, I do agree. [1:26:44] I would rather than go to an industrial area [1:26:46] if they have an RV and they want to stay long term. [1:26:49] But my concern is that they might be there for, [1:26:52] like how long is it, one day or whatever? [1:26:56] I mean, I'm just thinking like, [1:26:57] if it's an awful, I'm sorry. [1:27:00] I don't know what public comment. [1:27:00] Well, the municipal code only allows, [1:27:04] I was, what might cover some of these questions, [1:27:06] am I not correct? [1:27:08] Yes, Mr. Mayor, the current vehicle code only allows 72 hours [1:27:13] of public parking. [1:27:14] Okay, so I know in the past, in my neighborhood, [1:27:17] there was an individual, and they parked it there, [1:27:20] and then, you know, 71 hours later, they moved it, [1:27:24] 10 feet, stayed there for it, and then they moved it again, [1:27:26] and, you know, and just, like they knew. [1:27:29] You know, meanwhile, I think they were dumping their stuff [1:27:31] in the gutter and it was a kind of an issue for the residents nearby. On the other hand too, [1:27:38] I mean there are some people that you know they visit out of state and they bring their RV and [1:27:42] they want to you know park in front of the you know and so you got to find your kind of your balance [1:27:46] there of what's you know well there's there's what I push a lot when I call code for their spirit [1:27:53] the law there's letter of the law so in this case someone's visiting from out of state you're not [1:27:59] I'm not going to go get them because they're not allowed in that block on the sidewalk or anything. [1:28:03] I mean, that's being the letter of the law. [1:28:05] But if you have, outright have a homeless person that's creating a nuisance, [1:28:11] you know, then you would impose the letter of the law. [1:28:14] Yeah, that's an issue. [1:28:15] Yeah, sorry to change the topic, but there's a, I know in there, and I'm myself in councilman Nava. [1:28:23] We sit on the homeless subcommittee task force, and so we kind of get something. [1:28:26] Can we go back to one slide real quick? [1:28:30] is that possible or are you in control I don't know there it is okay um maybe one [1:28:40] more it was about the you know three kind of three strikes in the park is [1:28:50] that it oh there it is [1:28:51] I'm so sorry it was there um so I know Riverside does because we have the third offense right so we're [1:28:57] giving the three chances but Riverside has one offense or first one and then they're actually banned from [1:29:03] the park? Not banned from the park. I believe they are arrested or they're actually removed, [1:29:09] but not banned from the park. Okay. Does anybody besides, I believe grants pass, right? [1:29:15] Because that's kind of where it all was coming from. They have a, they actually ban. [1:29:21] That was the, that's something we can legally do. That was the only one that we're aware of has that [1:29:26] regulation. So the law is that you can temporary ban them after repeated violations, [1:29:31] But you have to provide them with alternative housing. [1:29:37] So grant pass says that if there's alternative housing available and you communicate to them and you facilitate them to go there, then you can ban them temporarily. [1:29:48] So, you know, three strikes, you say your ban for a year, you store their materials so they can pick it up within 90 days. [1:29:58] and you just have to make sure the code off. [1:30:00] Code enforcement officers are trained to provide them with alternative housing. Now that can be anywhere else. You can say, hey, in the county there's these cities that have alternative housing, we'll pay for your Uber or I don't know, here's how you can get there. And so one of the things we've been recommending to our code enforcement officers in our other cities is that we give them a script and they have to read the script and get the person to sign it. [1:30:29] perhaps or initial it so then there's no he said she said okay and then you know you know [1:30:35] told the people watching here or at home you know it's a little misleading right you know because [1:30:40] it sounds like hey we're putting all these rules on on homeless right and you know I think I like [1:30:44] the term vagrants right because we're not all the homeless have been approached they've all been [1:30:49] offered help city affairs is a very compassionate city but people are just are just fed up of seeing [1:30:55] seeing needles in the parks, seeing feces of the parks, going to parks, and you see them doing inappropriate stuff, drinking or doing inappropriate stuff to themselves. [1:31:06] And it's just people who just kind of want to go to a park or another place to the library for say, for say, and just have a safe experience where we're all paying taxes. [1:31:16] And somebody's vagrants, they're just, they're costing a lot of our city of resources, they're all offered help if they still want to continue their lifestyle. [1:31:24] then I think we need to encourage them to find another city that's allowing that but the city of pairs I think we're heading to a place where we're just we're saying hey you did get help or you got to move on. [1:31:35] So I just want to be clear on that we've been at it for a long time on this and I think a lot of residents are asking us to do something about it. [1:31:44] So if possible I mean could we reduce that third offense to two offenses or even one offense? [1:31:50] We can do whatever we want. [1:31:52] Constantly correct. [1:31:53] But what is the legality? [1:31:55] I'm just wondering, how would that hold up? [1:31:58] I think two offenses would be better. [1:32:05] The one offense hasn't been challenged. [1:32:08] So I don't know where a court would come out on that. [1:32:11] This is all new after Grand Pass. [1:32:12] And we just have to wait for a bunch of challenges [1:32:17] and see how what the courts do. [1:32:19] but definitely two offenses would be legally defensible. [1:32:24] Okay. [1:32:25] Okay. [1:32:26] All right. [1:32:27] I'm going to stop at this point, guys, and allow for public comment if we have any. [1:32:31] Madam Clerk, do I have any requests to speak? [1:32:32] Yes, sir. [1:32:33] Roxana Torres. [1:32:38] Is that what my four folks here are all speakers? [1:32:44] You go first, Roxana. [1:32:48] Good evening. [1:32:51] Mayor, councilmembers. [1:32:52] city stuff, public and everybody. [1:32:59] One of the things that I really love about the city, [1:33:03] one of the things that I really like is drive around. I do my chores at home, clean my [1:33:10] house and do everything that I need to do and then I like to drive and see how the city [1:33:16] is growing, how you are building the city is just beautiful, suddenly you pass through [1:33:23] this street and it's totally new. [1:33:26] And one of the things that I was thinking, actually last month I was driving through [1:33:35] the city, the downtown Paris, and there is so much traffic during the morning for the street [1:33:45] is like terrible driving over there is like horrible and I was wondering if you [1:33:51] have any plans on building a seven-street between park avenue or park [1:34:01] street to for the street because today I was driving around and it is terrible there [1:34:10] is so many homeless over there. I saw people's, I think they were selling drugs or doing something [1:34:17] like that. There is some encampment, encampment, encampment, something like that. And also, I noticed [1:34:27] that there was a fire. I don't know when. And there's trash everywhere. And the saddest thing is, [1:34:36] This school is right next to it, it's like a block from there, it's like half a block, the kids are coming out. [1:34:46] I don't know if you are thinking of doing something for that street in particular, and [1:34:54] something also that I notice is there is a lot of trash. [1:34:59] I don't know how you can handle that. [1:35:02] there's a dumb, I think someone dumb, what, like a speedboat, there's a lot of trash. [1:35:12] I don't know if you have any plans. [1:35:18] I was driving around and suddenly decided to come. [1:35:22] I wasn't going to talk, but one of the guys on the back, no them, they said, [1:35:28] And you should talk and talk to them about this, okay? [1:35:33] She was talking about problems with homeless and everything. [1:35:38] There is a lot of problems in that area. [1:35:40] And I think you have to address that area is really dangerous. [1:35:46] And the city downtown is, you're building a wonderful street. [1:35:53] Thank you, Roxana. [1:35:54] It times up, sorry. [1:35:56] Thank you so much. [1:36:01] That is all. [1:36:04] Okay. [1:36:05] That was quick. [1:36:06] Okay. [1:36:07] Back to the council. [1:36:10] Okay. [1:36:11] I have a few clarifying questions. [1:36:13] I know for the last slide that we were on previously. [1:36:17] It said for committee feedback. [1:36:19] It says holding personal property from 60 days to 90 days. [1:36:23] Can you explain that to me a little bit more? [1:36:26] So the executive order asks for any ordinance to be drafted to be in line with the Cal Trans Ordinance, which does say that they will hold the property once we go into clean. [1:36:40] There's property that we can take as long as it doesn't pose a health risk for 60 days. [1:36:46] and speaking with at the Public Safety Committee, [1:36:51] Sheriff said that they hold it for 90 days. [1:36:54] So we just want to be in alignment [1:36:56] with Riverside County Sheriff's. [1:36:57] Okay, perfect. [1:36:59] And is that, because I know some of the language on here, [1:37:02] it says we take these personal things [1:37:07] and put them in storage. [1:37:09] Where's the storage located at? [1:37:12] So those are procedural items, action items that we will still be drafting out, depending on the language that gets included into the ordinance. [1:37:23] Okay. Okay. And last question, I think it was from the previous side. All I got was, any violation is a misdemeanor? [1:37:31] Can you go back? Because I didn't know what was the misdemeanor for and I want to double check what it was. [1:37:36] So the city draft says that if there are any violations of this unlawful campaign ordinance then it will be an administrative citation. [1:37:48] One of the recommendations was for it to be an alignment with the city of Riverside which treats them as misdemeanors or infractions. [1:38:01] So if someone violates the third time, just the ordinance. [1:38:08] Yes. [1:38:09] Okay. [1:38:10] Perfect. [1:38:10] Thank you. [1:38:12] So administrative site. [1:38:14] It's hard. [1:38:16] Code enforcement issues those. [1:38:18] The police can't, too. [1:38:20] But there's no. [1:38:20] There's really no. [1:38:22] I [1:38:24] can't think of the word I want to use. [1:38:26] Robert taught me. [1:38:27] But there's no. [1:38:27] No repercussion from that is where if you make it a misdemeanor, the police can arrest, they can issue a ticket, and they're how to go to court. [1:38:36] You don't go to court with a city, administrative citation, so that was what I think this request came out of our Public Safety Commission, was to make it a misdemeanor, gives more authority to our police. [1:38:53] Anybody else? [1:38:55] Yeah, just a quick question, have we have we sent this out to our sheriff's that they've looked over it or maybe [1:39:01] Sheriff's was I don't know. I believe he was an attendance at the Public Safety Committee and [1:39:09] Then we did have our [1:39:12] Homeless outreach team at the homeless task force. So those are the only [1:39:16] Individuals who from the Sheriff's Department that have seen this so besides that like have you seen the update like everything kind of compiled [1:39:21] Is there anything they want to add, anything they want to take away, anything that they see a problem with this? [1:39:25] No, so we will go ahead, we can include them in this review once we incorporate the items that you are wishing to include into the draft ordinance. [1:39:35] Okay. All right, thank you. [1:39:36] Mayor Putem. [1:39:38] Yes, the discussion up here got my will's turning in terms of the misdemeanor versus administrative site. [1:39:42] And what you had mentioned earlier regarding first, second, and third notifications. [1:39:48] I think maybe jumping to a misdemeanor during the first notification, maybe too much. [1:39:53] Maybe we can say either infraction, which is basically like a traffic ticket noise complaint or [1:39:59] administrative site for the first, the first write-up. [1:40:02] See, like the first write-up hole, I didn't know there was an ordinance, now they know. [1:40:06] Or if it's an instance where you have like a 18 to 22 year old kid who may have aged out of foster care or something like that's camping. [1:40:12] I don't really want to like give them a record. [1:40:14] But then we go to the second the second violation we can say maybe a second violation within two years or a year [1:40:21] You get that misdemeanor to be honest a misdemeanor the cops can't arrest [1:40:24] But they're probably gonna get out unless they have some like warrant for felony and the misdemeanor right now [1:40:30] It's summary probation. You're looking at 12 months. It's gonna probably be 180 days max which is gonna be cut in half right now [1:40:37] So if that person just has that one misdemeanor [1:40:40] They're not even probably going to do 90 days beyond, they're probably going to be in custody for like a week if that, but I mean at least gives us some enforcement mechanism, but I think perhaps we should be a misdemeanor ultimately, but maybe jumping straight to a misdemeanor might be a little too much and even a misdemeanor it's some of these people probably have extensive records is not they don't care, but I think at least having the threat might help us, police can make a rest, they can have contact with them, we can get them on summary probation. [1:41:08] I just want to get a point of clarification from the mayor pro-time. [1:41:14] You're suggesting that only for violations that when we're asking them to be removed, but [1:41:19] not for, I mean, if there's drug use or other kind of felonies or misdemeanor, we want [1:41:24] that fully prosecuted. [1:41:25] Oh, yes. [1:41:25] We just want to clarify that. [1:41:26] We have meth on them or meth is high for anything like this. [1:41:29] This conversation is solely about homelessness and that cannot, you know, go to violations. [1:41:35] So my counter to that, Mayor Pro Tem, is that I don't agree with that. [1:41:41] It needs to remain a misdemeanor. [1:41:43] The police have the power to give them a warning. [1:41:47] I mean, we are getting complaints, maybe you're not, I get a lot of complaints. [1:41:51] I know, Malcolm's getting a lot of complaints about, we're not doing anything about this homelessness. [1:41:56] And administrative citation as I explained earlier does not do anything to the individual. [1:42:01] So there's no, I can't still miss in that verb. [1:42:06] I don't know if it's repercussion or what I'm trying to say, but there's no recourse with administrative citation. [1:42:12] Or at least the written ticket, at the bare minimum, a written ticket from the police, [1:42:18] at least it goes into a record, and now that starts the process, right? [1:42:25] But to say, to start at the administrative citation which doesn't hold any merit, [1:42:29] I would rather leave it at a misdemeanor, except to the police that they have the authority. [1:42:34] If the person is being honest with them and come on, our cops, our police officers know [1:42:40] that these individuals that we're talking about after, and they know when they come across [1:42:44] a new person, and if that new person is not knowledgeable about the law, they can introduce [1:42:48] them a lot. [1:42:48] I'm going to come and let you go this time, but I'm not, you know, you cannot be out anymore [1:42:51] about the blah, blah, blah, blah. [1:42:52] Or if it's the same person who's been out here for the last year making an issue, they [1:42:57] I'll take me right from the ticket. [1:43:00] May I if I may? [1:43:01] Yes. [1:43:02] I just want to clarify the proposed ordinance under the Newsom, the Governor's Executive Order. [1:43:09] The enforcement component is written that the citation for violation for anything under this chapter is an infraction. [1:43:15] At the discretion of the whoever's out there code or shares, they may issue an administrative citation. [1:43:22] So the off, right off the back, it's an infraction, which goes on your record, it's kind of a vehicle to ticket, so it does go on your record. [1:43:32] However, we have the ability to, if they're compliant, then they seem to be working, we have the ability to make an administrative citation. [1:43:40] But the Mr. Beener is a whole different conversation, that's not part of this ordinance at this time unless you want to add it. [1:43:47] Well, it's in here, someone's requesting it to be a misdemeanor. [1:43:51] Yes, that is a recommendation from one of the committees. [1:43:54] That's correct. [1:43:56] Councilwoman Nava. [1:43:58] Thank you. [1:43:58] This isn't in line with the misdemeanor conversation, but I just wanted to continue adding to the conversation if that's okay. [1:44:05] California has been experiencing homelessness, decades in the making, right? [1:44:09] And just to reiterate that we're, it's our due diligence to deal with this while respecting the humanity, right? [1:44:16] of all our populations. One of the things I really wanted to target was in regards to when we're [1:44:23] holding their items. I wanted to know where and we've had that answer that we're still working [1:44:28] out those logistics. But I think it's really important that we work with CityNet, right, who [1:44:33] offers services to our homelessness. Maybe it'd be great to have some kind of system where in order [1:44:40] for them to receive their items back, their reminded, right, and offer these services that are [1:44:45] continuously available to them. But I also just want to be mindful of location because again, [1:44:51] we want to keep in mind any sensitive areas. So if I could add, I don't know if we're taking [1:44:57] recommendations, but if CityNet- [1:45:00] It has the availability to store some of these items, I believe that would be a great point, as well as our Sheriff's Department, given that they already have the opportunity to do so. I think either of those locations would be ideal in my perspective, thank you. [1:45:17] Okay, if there are no other comments, I'd like to make some of your comments. Yeah, you know, I'm looking at this current slide right now, and this is include language that the ordinance will apply to, you know, and they list them, but just want to clarify. [1:45:30] by parks is already in there, right? [1:45:32] I mean, yes, because that is also important. [1:45:34] That's city property. [1:45:35] Gotcha, thank you. [1:45:37] So, sorry. [1:45:39] Okay, come forward. [1:45:40] I'm looking at that. [1:45:41] So I'm looking at the comparison chart. [1:45:43] And the city of Paris is pretty vague [1:45:45] while the city of Riverside has a more extensive definition. [1:45:49] Is that something that we could somewhat duplicate [1:45:52] to have it further outlined? [1:45:55] Yes, we can. [1:45:57] Thank you. [1:45:59] Anybody else? [1:46:02] So my recommendation is you have a pretty much a written draft already, and then you have public safety committee add-ons if everybody's fine with that, not your additions, and then you have recommendations from the HR, [1:46:16] There are the Homeless Task Force Committee, everybody's good with that. [1:46:24] And then which councilman now would just ask you to do and I don't think there was anything else. [1:46:33] Well, that's got to be worked out still, location and storage. [1:46:35] I just want to get a draft idea because they're going to have to come back with all this on paper now. [1:46:40] So then we can finally review that and then do a fine tune. [1:46:43] Because otherwise we can be here for another hour throwing things out. [1:46:46] So if you can fine tune that stuff there, and then come back again. [1:46:52] I was just going to comment to Councilwoman Navas' point. [1:46:56] The location maybe would be better to put in implementation guidelines because then if the location doesn't work out, you don't want to amend a whole ordinance, so we'll address it in guidelines. [1:47:10] Okay, everybody's good with that? [1:47:12] The clarification is that the direction that we include the both committee recommendations into the ordinance. [1:47:19] Yes. [1:47:20] Okay. [1:47:21] In addition to what councilwoman now I just had it. [1:47:25] Yes, and the description for the Riverside ordinance. [1:47:28] Right. [1:47:29] Okay, and guys, which is not a done deal, if you have something else comes up next meeting, we bring it up. [1:47:36] I just want to give a good sense of direction, so when it comes back, it's more fine tune to what we want and then we can clean it up and then hopefully finalize it. [1:47:45] All right, thank you, Dr. Appreciate your time. [1:47:48] All right, with that being said, item 13 is Council Communications. We'll start with Council Member Vallejo. [1:47:58] I just wanted to let everyone know that for the next three days, I will be going to the Cal City Council Members Academy. [1:48:07] That's for new council members. [1:48:09] This is to learn more about the process and just to know what we have in mind. [1:48:15] It's something that I'm very excited about because I'm always open to learning. [1:48:18] So I do want to let the community go know that I'm doing as much as I can to really understand [1:48:24] the process of everything so that's something that I really am excited about. [1:48:29] One thing that I do want to mention, that I couldn't mention last meeting because last meeting [1:48:33] I went to like 11.30 and it was way too late, I don't think anybody want to hear anybody talk at the end. [1:48:39] But what I did want to let the council know as well is I do think, I would like to propose that we hold [1:48:50] a workshop to explore new ways to increase revenues without depending on industrial developments. [1:48:57] I do appreciate specifically the Mayor and [1:49:03] Rob for the warehouses. [1:49:06] I will say that the warehouses has helped us back in the day. [1:49:09] It did help us become more stabilized. [1:49:12] But I do believe with all the developments going on, [1:49:16] I believe we have a new city going on and a new council going on [1:49:21] to where I believe we can leverage and we can really talk to [1:49:25] to other developers and see what other commercial ideas we can have in mind. [1:49:32] And I feel like if we really tune in on that, we can really make Paris to what we really [1:49:38] want it to be. [1:49:40] I do want to work together and really attract those high-quality commercial developers. [1:49:47] And I really want to encourage my colleagues to just collaborate with each other, keep [1:49:53] keep an open mind because I do believe that now since we have a little bit more warehouses we get some good stuff out of it, but I believe it's time that we pivot because coming from a school board member side, I will say that we are at a time where basically you need a degree to get a high paying job and one of my focuses, which is going to take many years, but I want to bring higher paying jobs here. [1:50:19] I want to bring government buildings here, I want to bring other type of jobs that could really help students [1:50:26] real back in and not keep on leaving because from the data that I can tell you the majority of students [1:50:32] always leave to San Diego, to San Marcos, all these Cal States and because they all have a lot of opportunities there [1:50:39] but I strongly believe that if we all collaborate together and work closely together, we can really find a way to make Paris attractable [1:50:48] And if we find those other revenues, we can really be a city where people want to come here and really want to live here [1:50:55] So I really hope we can find those different avenues to just gain more traction. Thank you [1:51:00] Just just to let you know I've already given that direction in our [1:51:04] Economic development oh, maybe so I'm not in okay. Yeah, let us find let us fine tune that there [1:51:11] And then we'll bring it back into a workshop together. Okay. Thank you so much. Yeah [1:51:16] All right [1:51:18] I'm [1:51:22] sorry. [1:51:25] Councilman Corona. [1:51:27] Thank you, Mayor. If I could direct staff to bring back our good neighbor policy back, just kind of make some amendments in there. [1:51:36] Last Tuesday, I was, I attended with the Councilwoman Nava. I think I just barely missed you. She got that she got early started, then I did, but we were up at 5.30 a.m. [1:51:46] here and we did the homeless point in time councillor, so with the discussion that we just had with the [1:51:52] Concertes, I was someone we're bringing. [1:51:55] Somebody in Camman was very sophisticated. I'll talk about they had a whole chimney going on. [1:52:00] Some people they were able to saw off the door of a drainage channel and they had furniture up to the wall. [1:52:06] I mean, it was actually a decent set up over there, but it was very unsafe. [1:52:10] So it gave us a chance to see what's going on, what's the realities of what's happening. [1:52:15] Obviously, a fire in a place that's, you know, with brush, all the dry brush that was around, you know, very dangerous. [1:52:22] And we've had a lot of fires, and I'm sure if our fire chief was here, he could tell a lot of these fires are caused by the encampments that we have. [1:52:31] So it was a very eye-opening, I think that was my sixth time doing it, maybe. [1:52:35] I'm looking forward to it next year. [1:52:37] Thank you. That's all the comments. [1:52:39] Thank you. [1:52:50] Councilwoman Navar. [1:52:51] Thank you, Mayor. [1:52:52] My comments are in regards to the current administration's immigration rates. [1:52:59] Of course, I am appalled and outraged, and I would like to direct staff to prepare some very stringent and legally enforceable mechanisms for discussion to combat those efforts here at the City of Paris at the February 25th meeting. [1:53:15] And those are all the comments I have for tonight, thank you. [1:53:17] Thank you Mayor Portem. [1:53:19] Yes, I'd like to thank all the speakers for coming out tonight, especially Ms. Abelie-Broxand. [1:53:24] I know the area you're talking about is at the end of Seven Street, Park Avenue. [1:53:28] You have Forbes Street up to the other side of Family Basket. [1:53:32] It's a rocky area, it's a hillie area. [1:53:34] I've reached out to both code enforcement and public works to start contacting the property owners in that area, [1:53:40] to get them to bait that area, to get them to move other items there. [1:53:45] because this is very flammable. I'm at the other side of seven street closer to the [1:53:48] pole stop or not too far off from that area. So I am intimately familiar with that area. [1:53:53] So thank you for coming. I've been in contact with public works along with code and working [1:53:59] on looking at the various lots in the city, particularly the lots that are but residential [1:54:04] areas. There's a few in downtown empty lots. There's a few pocket lots as well with contacting [1:54:10] Edison. There's a lot of power lines and some of the power lines are trees growing up near [1:54:14] the power line. If you go down Paris Boulevard starting at 5th Street to the end of 11th there's [1:54:19] several trees that are near palm trees and some of the residents that are along Paris Boulevard. [1:54:24] Contacting Edison maybe the property owners to get the trees cut back to get the palm prongs cut [1:54:29] back to also go down the alleys and look where I know Edison will come by and cut the trees down some [1:54:34] of the areas in the alley so we can continue dialoguing with Edison. On that note in the future I think [1:54:41] I think we need to reach out to Edison to get explanation. [1:54:43] A lot of our residents were without power. [1:54:45] I think the area, former councilwoman Rodgers lived in [1:54:48] up by Heady Woods Evans area. [1:54:52] That area continually was without power. [1:54:54] A lot of the downtown area, not the city hall area, [1:54:56] but if you were south of Fort Street [1:54:59] or on the other side of Paris Boulevard, [1:55:01] there were several days. [1:55:02] Not a two hours, not one hour. [1:55:05] It up to 24 hours without power. [1:55:07] And a lot of residents, you know, [1:55:09] a lot of people are living paycheck to paycheck [1:55:11] now with all the inflation, everything going on. [1:55:13] They're losing food, they're losing, you know, items, [1:55:16] people on oxygen. [1:55:18] I think it's something to say, well, [1:55:19] they're in a high wind area, [1:55:21] we're just going to cut off the power. [1:55:22] I think that was, that worked during this time [1:55:25] because we had to all come together to, you know, [1:55:26] fight these fires. [1:55:27] But if this is going to be a reoccurring thing [1:55:29] in the future, it's not acceptable. [1:55:32] And I think the pushes to move a lot of people out [1:55:34] from like gas water heaters, put you on electric cars. [1:55:38] I think that's going to put more of a, make the grid less, less resilient in those instances. [1:55:44] So I think we need to start dialogue with Edison regarding their plans to fix this or get it under control, [1:55:49] I think in the future. So once again, I'd like to thank all the speakers for coming out and speaking tonight. [1:55:54] I like to thank everyone for, you know, working. And in terms of staff and my colleagues, [1:55:59] we're bringing a lot of robust discussions forward. I think we should all perhaps work together. [1:56:03] So we're not having meetings that go to past 9, 9, 30, maybe moving some items around, [1:56:10] maybe cutting down some presentations, maybe working with the public comment. [1:56:13] Just to expedite so everyone gets a voice here at the City Council. [1:56:16] So once again, thank you for coming out. [1:56:18] Hope everybody enjoyed the last few days of January. [1:56:20] Thank you. [1:56:23] Okay, thank you. [1:56:25] Thank you, too, also speakers for coming out and sticking with us. [1:56:29] We had a lot of activity in the last meeting we didn't get to talk about. [1:56:32] but just some highlights, I did attend the RSO. [1:56:36] Riverside Sheriff's Office blue light ceremony along with our assistant city manager, [1:56:41] Rayna. [1:56:42] This ceremony is held to memorize the honor of our county's 75 fallen officers, [1:56:48] but is also dedicated to all their surviving family members. [1:56:52] The Fifth Annual Tolley Trolley Toy Dry was a very big success this past year. [1:56:58] We're in New York already, shopper the top as well. [1:57:00] Breakfast with Santa. Thank you, staff, again. [1:57:04] It's honored to present $100, $100, [1:57:08] a birthday certificate to Issa Wright-Tut, [1:57:11] longtime resident here at Paris, [1:57:14] honored to participate in a community luncheon [1:57:17] to discuss the next UC Riverside Chancellor's search. [1:57:21] Our chancellor's gonna be retiring [1:57:22] in this school year. [1:57:26] In reference to the fire zone [1:57:28] As council mayor pretend mentioned, just to add to it, I've been attending several meetings with Edison and other electives and mayors and what have you. [1:57:37] And the big challenge in Paris is that some of our circuits are tied into the big fire zone areas. [1:57:44] So the area referred to former councilwoman Rogers and the Orange Vista high school areas that all the powers are under, all the lines are under ground. [1:57:56] had nothing to do with their necessary residents but their circuit went further east into our [1:58:02] neighboring city that is a fire zone and they're affected by it so yes when we talk to if [1:58:09] and when you guys do talk and reach out I think I don't know how it can be done or what but these [1:58:15] circuits need to be cut down the size and fit more tailored to the communities because we shouldn't [1:58:20] And our people shouldn't have to be going through these long time shutoffs because they live in an area. [1:58:26] So I guess if you think about it back in the day, when this was really Paris Valley, [1:58:31] there was so space spread out these residential areas that are circuit went along ways. [1:58:36] So, I don't know and but it is, there was two big areas that got affected. [1:58:43] Fort Street was another area, they got hit for a long time. [1:58:47] So anyway, you heard about the mean I went to that our federal law has mentioned was the 93rd winter meeting for the US Conference of Mayors. [1:58:58] I was honored to speak at the annual meeting for the mayor's alliance to hand childhood hunger. [1:59:02] I was able to give a presentation on our progress and efforts that we are pursuing of which I will have staff given that they to counsel as well. [1:59:10] I don't know the meeting. [1:59:11] Thank you. [1:59:11] Okay. [1:59:12] As they were to participate in a roundtable discussion with our senators, Alice for Dia and Adam Schiff along with approximately 30 other California mayors topics, including housing insurance premiums, wildfires, local control, the usual stuff. [1:59:27] It was represented, you heard about this, talking with transportation, also met with the folks from the mayors guaranteed income aligns. [1:59:33] This is still works in the progress with our city of Paris. [1:59:38] And January 22nd, our public service department hosted a quarterly Riverside County Health Coalition meeting, [1:59:43] which I was honored to give the opening speech as to what we are doing in their city. [1:59:47] The Coalition is comprised of staff members from several cities, [1:59:50] RUHS staff, nonprofit organizations, faith-based organizations. [1:59:54] Their mission is to promote and improve and sustain social and physical environments for health and wellness. [2:00:00] Through policy and development and advocacy. And then last day on Saturday, January 25th, myself, mayor, pro-tam and councilman, [2:00:09] quorum, we attended the Paris Valley Historical Museum Association who celebrated the Fred T. Paris Day. At the Deepo Museum, along with mayor, I've said them, [2:00:17] James. This was a year was to recognize the panacea family. They're the owners of the Paris Valley Airport. They were honored this year for the Paris T. Paris. [2:00:32] I know I spoke fast, but I'm trying to get everybody out of here. [2:00:37] Our next item is the City Manager's report. [2:00:41] Thank you, Mayor. [2:00:42] We have two exciting activities this week. [2:00:44] The first one is finally the groundbreaking for the Fossfield Park renovation and expansion. [2:00:49] It's going to be held tomorrow, January 29th at 4 p.m. at Fossfield Park. [2:00:55] and this event is open to the public. [2:00:58] And the second event this week is the opening [2:01:00] of the early childhood classroom facility. [2:01:05] And this will take place this Thursday, January 30th, [2:01:08] at 2 p.m., there will be a ceremony [2:01:11] at the Paris-Green City Farm followed by a tour [2:01:14] of the classroom also open to the public. [2:01:17] And finally, we are excited to introduce [2:01:19] the official City of Paris mobile app. [2:01:22] It is designed to enhance how residents [2:01:24] residents and visitors connect with city services and resources. [2:01:28] This is a user friendly app that provides instant access to important dates, event information, [2:01:33] service requests, and more. [2:01:35] And now I'm happy to introduce Everett Hamley, our digital media supervisor, [2:01:39] to give you an overview. [2:01:40] I'll address that. [2:01:43] Good evening, honorable mayor, members of the city council. [2:01:47] I just wanted to stop by and give you a quick overview of the new city app. [2:01:51] So at the beginning of the year, we started promoting our new year, [2:01:54] their new app campaign, and basically it's to promote the fact that the city has launched [2:01:59] a new app. [2:01:59] It's available on all iOS and Android platforms for residents to download for free directly [2:02:05] to their smartphone. [2:02:06] So the new app is kind of a one-stop shop, you know, for residents to view important information [2:02:10] on our website, register for classes on civic rec. [2:02:13] I know sometimes that's, you know, a little bit of a bugaboo for people and they're able [2:02:17] to find it right there at the top of the interface. [2:02:20] They can obtain a business license or pet license and report any other issues throughout [2:02:24] the city. And most importantly, they can easily find agendas for committee meetings and council meetings. [2:02:31] So the great thing about this app from our end is that it's very customizable. When you open up [2:02:35] the app, you'll see a bunch of what you call applets on the top and there's all the different [2:02:39] subjects. If there's anything that you want to see that isn't there, we can easily update it. There's [2:02:43] something there you don't think is necessary. We can delete it. So it doesn't require the user to [2:02:47] update the app to see these changes. They're basically instantaneous. So residents can go to the app [2:02:53] store and search for Paris Go Gov to search for the app or they can go to our Instagram [2:02:58] page. We have the links in our link tree on top of our Instagram page. We've had multiple [2:03:03] posts on Facebook and we've got the links to the Android and the iOS apps on there. [2:03:09] The great thing too about this app is that besides the information that's already available [2:03:13] on our website and through other sources is they can get real-time notifications about [2:03:17] about events, road closures, as we've seen in the last couple of weeks, emergencies due to power outages, high winds, etc. [2:03:25] It sends it as a push notification to their phone, just like a text message where you're on your phone, you'll see a badge icon come up immediately. [2:03:32] And that's also basically instantaneous as well. [2:03:34] So I'd just like to encourage all of our residents to download the app today and [2:03:38] stay up to date on what's going on here in the city of Paris. [2:03:41] So I'm available for any questions, yes sir. [2:03:43] Yeah, quick question those that have had that old pairs mobile get rid of that [2:03:49] We're still pushing things out to the smart 911 app and I know which one you're referring to because we do have some users on there [2:03:56] We've actually just recently sent out a notification on that app to tell residents to download the new app because the new app will do [2:04:02] What the smart 911 app did and a whole lot more? [2:04:05] We're talking about the smart we're talking about the Paris mobile. That's the car that's that's the concade apps are yes, and in this [2:04:11] This mobile app that we have here, there is an app that will take you directly to that interface as well. [2:04:18] So yes, if that's what you're referring to, we don't need to use the Paris mobile app. [2:04:21] Thank you so much. [2:04:22] No problem. [2:04:23] Great presentation too. [2:04:24] So my question was that, we're not omitting the Paris mobile app, because that app is horrible. [2:04:33] Basically, I would say that the functionality of that app is contained in here. [2:04:37] I've heard discussions about replacing that particular interface with another interface and [2:04:43] when that happens, if and when it happens, that can be integrated into this interface, no problem. [2:04:47] That's what I want to hear, because I don't want to have multiple apps, but [2:04:52] there's a lot of issues with that Paris mobile lab and we need to, I see your chief information officers in the back. [2:04:58] We need to get rid of that as soon as possible and integrate it into this app. [2:05:02] So we don't have people getting confused out there. [2:05:05] Thank you, Everett. [2:05:06] All right, that takes us to our German, unfortunately folks, he'd say good night, but I'm 15, but I do want to, unfortunately, we are going to be adjourning this evening in memory of 19 year old. [2:05:24] City of Paris, resident Adrian Kieros, the son of a dear friend of our city clerk Nancy Salazar, who passed away on January 17th, 2025 as a result of a traffic collision here in Paris. [2:05:36] So our thoughts and prayers are with the family, thank you. [2:05:40] Good night everybody, thank you for joining us, and for watching us on social media as well, [2:05:44] and we'll see you next month.