1 00:01:47,705 --> 00:01:49,705 Good 2 00:01:50,407 --> 00:01:52,407 . No point 3 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,287 Good evening 4 00:02:04,287 --> 00:02:05,550 everyone. Thank you 5 00:02:05,550 --> 00:02:05,589 all for 6 00:02:05,589 --> 00:02:06,230 being here with 7 00:02:06,230 --> 00:02:07,157 us tonight. Uh 8 00:02:07,157 --> 00:02:07,724 , 9 00:02:07,724 --> 00:02:07,958 we're going to open 10 00:02:07,958 --> 00:02:08,158 the 11 00:02:08,158 --> 00:02:08,658 meeting 12 00:02:08,658 --> 00:02:09,526 with our pledge 13 00:02:09,526 --> 00:02:09,826 to the 14 00:02:09,826 --> 00:02:10,160 us and 15 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:10,427 the 16 00:02:10,427 --> 00:02:10,862 Texas 17 00:02:10,862 --> 00:02:11,628 flag. Uh, if 18 00:02:11,628 --> 00:02:12,620 you 19 00:02:12,620 --> 00:02:12,496 would stand 20 00:02:12,496 --> 00:02:13,897 and please 21 00:02:13,897 --> 00:02:14,631 remain 22 00:02:14,631 --> 00:02:14,931 standing following for a 23 00:02:14,931 --> 00:02:15,365 moment 24 00:02:15,365 --> 00:02:16,900 of silence 25 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:17,267 . She 26 00:02:17,267 --> 00:02:18,335 joined me 27 00:02:18,335 --> 00:02:19,302 . I 28 00:02:19,302 --> 00:02:20,671 pledge allegiance to 29 00:02:20,671 --> 00:02:21,271 the fire 30 00:02:21,271 --> 00:02:22,840 of the United States 31 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:23,400 of 32 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:23,407 America 33 00:02:23,407 --> 00:02:24,700 and to 34 00:02:24,700 --> 00:02:25,876 the Republic for which 35 00:02:25,876 --> 00:02:26,343 it stands 36 00:02:26,343 --> 00:02:27,978 , our 37 00:02:27,978 --> 00:02:28,678 nation 38 00:02:28,678 --> 00:02:30,147 undercom 39 00:02:30,147 --> 00:02:30,273 indivisible with liberty 40 00:02:30,273 --> 00:02:30,615 and 41 00:02:30,615 --> 00:02:30,915 justice 42 00:02:30,915 --> 00:02:32,549 for all 43 00:02:32,549 --> 00:02:32,783 . On 44 00:02:32,783 --> 00:02:33,984 the 45 00:02:33,984 --> 00:02:34,285 Texas 46 00:02:34,285 --> 00:02:35,185 flag 47 00:02:35,185 --> 00:02:37,540 , a pleasure with this to 48 00:02:37,540 --> 00:02:37,321 the Texas 49 00:02:37,321 --> 00:02:38,556 one 50 00:02:38,556 --> 00:02:39,489 state 51 00:02:39,489 --> 00:02:39,756 101 52 00:02:39,756 --> 00:02:40,190 and 53 00:02:40,190 --> 00:02:42,190 indivisible 54 00:03:02,146 --> 00:03:02,546 . Thank you. You MAY 55 00:03:02,546 --> 00:03:04,546 be seated 56 00:03:08,585 --> 00:03:08,886 Once again, welcome 57 00:03:08,886 --> 00:03:10,687 to the 58 00:03:10,687 --> 00:03:11,455 regular meeting of the 59 00:03:11,455 --> 00:03:12,556 Flugerville City Council on 60 00:03:12,556 --> 00:03:13,900 this 61 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:13,218 FEBRUARY 10th 62 00:03:13,218 --> 00:03:13,757 . We 63 00:03:13,757 --> 00:03:14,925 appreciate you being 64 00:03:14,925 --> 00:03:15,225 here. Uh 65 00:03:15,225 --> 00:03:15,526 , 66 00:03:15,526 --> 00:03:17,327 the 67 00:03:17,327 --> 00:03:17,961 first item 68 00:03:17,961 --> 00:03:18,596 , uh, or rather 69 00:03:18,596 --> 00:03:19,230 the next item on 70 00:03:19,230 --> 00:03:19,697 our 71 00:03:19,697 --> 00:03:20,265 agenda is 72 00:03:20,265 --> 00:03:20,597 public comment. I 73 00:03:20,597 --> 00:03:21,498 have 74 00:03:21,498 --> 00:03:21,765 received 75 00:03:21,765 --> 00:03:22,466 no 76 00:03:22,466 --> 00:03:23,767 forms 77 00:03:23,767 --> 00:03:24,501 indicating anyone 78 00:03:24,501 --> 00:03:24,935 wishing to speak? Is there 79 00:03:24,935 --> 00:03:26,537 anyone in 80 00:03:26,537 --> 00:03:27,105 the public wishing to 81 00:03:27,105 --> 00:03:28,506 make public comment 82 00:03:28,506 --> 00:03:28,672 . On 83 00:03:28,672 --> 00:03:29,340 general 84 00:03:29,340 --> 00:03:31,740 items at this time 85 00:03:33,410 --> 00:03:34,979 . He's got to 86 00:03:34,979 --> 00:03:35,446 Yeah 87 00:03:35,446 --> 00:03:35,746 , come on forward 88 00:03:35,746 --> 00:03:36,113 You can 89 00:03:36,113 --> 00:03:37,815 take the 90 00:03:37,815 --> 00:03:38,115 podium. Uh, you'll 91 00:03:38,115 --> 00:03:38,515 have 92 00:03:38,515 --> 00:03:40,170 , uh, let me 93 00:03:40,170 --> 00:03:40,217 let 94 00:03:40,217 --> 00:03:40,517 me read 95 00:03:40,517 --> 00:03:41,510 the 96 00:03:41,510 --> 00:03:41,886 , uh, the legalese 97 00:03:41,886 --> 00:03:42,519 in 98 00:03:42,519 --> 00:03:42,820 accordance with the 99 00:03:42,820 --> 00:03:43,521 Texas 100 00:03:43,521 --> 00:03:44,222 Attorney General opinion 101 00:03:44,222 --> 00:03:44,922 , any 102 00:03:44,922 --> 00:03:45,589 public comment that is made on 103 00:03:45,589 --> 00:03:46,457 an item that is not on 104 00:03:46,457 --> 00:03:47,910 the 105 00:03:47,910 --> 00:03:47,691 published final agenda, will 106 00:03:47,691 --> 00:03:48,592 only be heard by 107 00:03:48,592 --> 00:03:48,959 the 108 00:03:48,959 --> 00:03:49,930 counsel 109 00:03:49,930 --> 00:03:49,327 . 110 00:03:49,327 --> 00:03:50,270 No 111 00:03:50,270 --> 00:03:50,828 formal action, discussion 112 00:03:50,828 --> 00:03:51,328 , 113 00:03:51,328 --> 00:03:51,795 deliberation, or 114 00:03:51,795 --> 00:03:52,329 comment will 115 00:03:52,329 --> 00:03:53,598 be made by the 116 00:03:53,598 --> 00:03:53,864 city council. 117 00:03:53,864 --> 00:03:54,398 Each 118 00:03:54,398 --> 00:03:54,765 person providing public 119 00:03:54,765 --> 00:03:55,599 comment 120 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:55,966 will be 121 00:03:55,966 --> 00:03:56,200 limited to 122 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,268 3 123 00:03:57,268 --> 00:03:57,668 minutes. Um, just so you know 124 00:03:57,668 --> 00:03:58,200 , 125 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:58,235 we're 126 00:03:58,235 --> 00:03:59,700 not 127 00:03:59,700 --> 00:03:59,603 allowed 128 00:03:59,603 --> 00:04:00,370 to respond 129 00:04:00,370 --> 00:04:00,538 or 130 00:04:00,538 --> 00:04:01,390 deliberate, but 131 00:04:01,390 --> 00:04:02,139 we'd be 132 00:04:02,139 --> 00:04:02,807 uh 133 00:04:02,807 --> 00:04:03,140 delighted to hear 134 00:04:03,140 --> 00:04:03,607 you 135 00:04:03,607 --> 00:04:04,676 . Ok 136 00:04:04,676 --> 00:04:05,760 , 137 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:05,510 great. Uh 138 00:04:05,510 --> 00:04:05,776 , good evening. My 139 00:04:05,776 --> 00:04:06,711 name 140 00:04:06,711 --> 00:04:06,978 is Joseph Brown. I live in 141 00:04:06,978 --> 00:04:08,946 the 142 00:04:08,946 --> 00:04:09,713 , uh, Greenridge community 143 00:04:09,713 --> 00:04:09,981 over here in, uh, Flugerville. 144 00:04:09,981 --> 00:04:11,981 Um 145 00:04:12,483 --> 00:04:13,685 I'm called, uh, come up here 146 00:04:13,685 --> 00:04:13,918 today to, uh 147 00:04:13,918 --> 00:04:14,485 , to 148 00:04:14,485 --> 00:04:16,287 follow up on 149 00:04:16,287 --> 00:04:16,754 the road 150 00:04:16,754 --> 00:04:16,887 conditions in 151 00:04:16,887 --> 00:04:17,288 our 152 00:04:17,288 --> 00:04:18,556 community 153 00:04:18,556 --> 00:04:20,580 , uh, extremely 154 00:04:20,580 --> 00:04:20,491 , um, 155 00:04:20,491 --> 00:04:20,825 pertaining to 156 00:04:20,825 --> 00:04:21,425 Cheyenne Valley 157 00:04:21,425 --> 00:04:22,660 and Gets School 158 00:04:22,660 --> 00:04:22,893 Road with 159 00:04:22,893 --> 00:04:23,528 the 160 00:04:23,528 --> 00:04:23,894 light there to see 161 00:04:23,894 --> 00:04:25,463 what the 162 00:04:25,463 --> 00:04:25,663 progress is but they 163 00:04:25,663 --> 00:04:26,230 haven't 164 00:04:26,230 --> 00:04:26,998 talked to MR. Evan 165 00:04:26,998 --> 00:04:27,431 , I 166 00:04:27,431 --> 00:04:28,199 , I think 167 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:28,323 he's over here today. Uh 168 00:04:28,323 --> 00:04:28,766 , I 169 00:04:28,766 --> 00:04:30,100 don't see him 170 00:04:30,100 --> 00:04:30,401 . And see how 171 00:04:30,401 --> 00:04:32,270 that's, um 172 00:04:32,270 --> 00:04:32,603 , progressed 173 00:04:32,603 --> 00:04:34,205 . Also 174 00:04:34,205 --> 00:04:34,705 the city 175 00:04:34,705 --> 00:04:35,907 of Brooklynville 176 00:04:35,907 --> 00:04:36,307 has 177 00:04:36,307 --> 00:04:36,674 come in 178 00:04:36,674 --> 00:04:38,309 and painted 179 00:04:38,309 --> 00:04:38,877 . The 180 00:04:38,877 --> 00:04:39,243 fluorescent type 181 00:04:39,243 --> 00:04:40,211 of stripes 182 00:04:40,211 --> 00:04:40,711 , uh 183 00:04:40,711 --> 00:04:41,779 for the rope 184 00:04:41,779 --> 00:04:42,980 , uh, walkways for 185 00:04:42,980 --> 00:04:43,581 the children 186 00:04:43,581 --> 00:04:43,981 . And 187 00:04:43,981 --> 00:04:45,416 everybody to 188 00:04:45,416 --> 00:04:45,917 get across the 189 00:04:45,917 --> 00:04:46,284 uh new blacktop 190 00:04:46,284 --> 00:04:47,418 because 191 00:04:47,418 --> 00:04:47,785 the new 192 00:04:47,785 --> 00:04:48,252 blacktop had 193 00:04:48,252 --> 00:04:48,519 destroyed all 194 00:04:48,519 --> 00:04:49,487 that 195 00:04:49,487 --> 00:04:49,754 before 196 00:04:49,754 --> 00:04:50,555 , but 197 00:04:50,555 --> 00:04:50,855 it's not completely finished 198 00:04:50,855 --> 00:04:51,956 and 199 00:04:51,956 --> 00:04:52,356 it's not 200 00:04:52,356 --> 00:04:52,657 finished on 201 00:04:52,657 --> 00:04:52,957 the 202 00:04:52,957 --> 00:04:54,859 main 203 00:04:54,859 --> 00:04:55,260 thoroughfare roads 204 00:04:55,260 --> 00:04:55,293 , which 205 00:04:55,293 --> 00:04:56,594 is 206 00:04:56,594 --> 00:04:56,928 Boon 207 00:04:56,928 --> 00:04:57,328 Valley 208 00:04:57,328 --> 00:04:58,829 and Cheyenne 209 00:04:58,829 --> 00:04:59,464 Valley, which is the most 210 00:04:59,464 --> 00:05:01,199 dangerous roads in the 211 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:02,660 community because everyone uses 212 00:05:02,660 --> 00:05:03,668 that as a thoroughfare that cut 213 00:05:03,668 --> 00:05:04,680 through to outside 214 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:04,403 the huddle 215 00:05:04,403 --> 00:05:04,902 and 216 00:05:04,902 --> 00:05:06,271 to Penley Park 217 00:05:06,271 --> 00:05:08,600 . And they go 218 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:08,372 extremely fast and it's 219 00:05:08,372 --> 00:05:08,840 very 220 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:10,275 dangerous 221 00:05:10,275 --> 00:05:11,750 because then both 222 00:05:11,750 --> 00:05:12,410 those roads have bus stops 223 00:05:12,410 --> 00:05:12,977 It's 224 00:05:12,977 --> 00:05:14,412 also where the 225 00:05:14,412 --> 00:05:14,746 park is for the 226 00:05:14,746 --> 00:05:15,460 children 227 00:05:15,460 --> 00:05:15,412 . In 228 00:05:15,412 --> 00:05:16,615 that 229 00:05:16,615 --> 00:05:16,848 area 230 00:05:16,848 --> 00:05:17,248 , uh, in 231 00:05:17,248 --> 00:05:17,548 our area 232 00:05:17,548 --> 00:05:19,548 . Um 233 00:05:19,851 --> 00:05:21,152 according to 234 00:05:21,152 --> 00:05:21,452 , um, 235 00:05:21,452 --> 00:05:23,452 the 236 00:05:23,755 --> 00:05:24,389 highway.Dot.Gov. Let me 237 00:05:24,389 --> 00:05:26,789 read this very quick 238 00:05:27,825 --> 00:05:28,293 . Uh 239 00:05:28,293 --> 00:05:28,760 , a 240 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,161 driver MAY not 241 00:05:30,161 --> 00:05:30,695 see 242 00:05:30,695 --> 00:05:31,290 or be aware 243 00:05:31,290 --> 00:05:32,531 of 244 00:05:32,531 --> 00:05:32,653 conditions within 245 00:05:32,653 --> 00:05:33,197 the 246 00:05:33,197 --> 00:05:33,531 corridor and MAY drive at a 247 00:05:33,531 --> 00:05:34,633 speed 248 00:05:34,633 --> 00:05:34,899 that 249 00:05:34,899 --> 00:05:35,166 feels 250 00:05:35,166 --> 00:05:36,901 res 251 00:05:36,901 --> 00:05:37,802 respon 252 00:05:37,802 --> 00:05:38,203 reasonable for themselves, but 253 00:05:38,203 --> 00:05:39,700 MAY 254 00:05:39,700 --> 00:05:39,371 not be 255 00:05:39,371 --> 00:05:39,838 for 256 00:05:39,838 --> 00:05:40,207 other users of 257 00:05:40,207 --> 00:05:40,438 the 258 00:05:40,438 --> 00:05:41,706 system 259 00:05:41,706 --> 00:05:42,207 , especially 260 00:05:42,207 --> 00:05:42,473 vulnerable rope 261 00:05:42,473 --> 00:05:43,608 users 262 00:05:43,608 --> 00:05:44,375 , 263 00:05:44,375 --> 00:05:45,543 including children and seniors 264 00:05:45,543 --> 00:05:45,777 . 265 00:05:45,777 --> 00:05:46,311 A 266 00:05:46,311 --> 00:05:46,778 driver traveling at 267 00:05:46,778 --> 00:05:48,713 30 mph 268 00:05:48,713 --> 00:05:49,180 . 269 00:05:49,180 --> 00:05:51,180 Who hits 270 00:05:51,249 --> 00:05:51,716 a pedestrian as 271 00:05:51,716 --> 00:05:52,617 a 272 00:05:52,617 --> 00:05:52,985 45% 273 00:05:52,985 --> 00:05:53,551 chance 274 00:05:53,551 --> 00:05:54,986 of killing 275 00:05:54,986 --> 00:05:55,286 or 276 00:05:55,286 --> 00:05:55,820 seriously 277 00:05:55,820 --> 00:05:57,455 injuring. Them 278 00:05:57,455 --> 00:05:57,822 . At 279 00:05:57,822 --> 00:05:58,122 20 miles an 280 00:05:58,122 --> 00:06:00,910 hour 281 00:06:00,910 --> 00:06:00,425 that 282 00:06:00,425 --> 00:06:01,993 chances 283 00:06:01,993 --> 00:06:02,360 dropped down 284 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,928 to 5% 285 00:06:03,928 --> 00:06:04,195 . So 286 00:06:04,195 --> 00:06:04,763 that 287 00:06:04,763 --> 00:06:06,598 road of Cheyenne 288 00:06:06,598 --> 00:06:06,931 Valley and Boone Valley, both 289 00:06:06,931 --> 00:06:07,432 at 290 00:06:07,432 --> 00:06:08,466 35 miles an hour 291 00:06:08,466 --> 00:06:09,000 . They have 292 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:09,401 a 293 00:06:09,401 --> 00:06:10,635 park there 294 00:06:10,635 --> 00:06:11,690 . We 295 00:06:11,690 --> 00:06:11,736 have Emily 296 00:06:11,736 --> 00:06:12,838 crossing the street 297 00:06:12,838 --> 00:06:13,710 . We 298 00:06:13,710 --> 00:06:13,872 have 299 00:06:13,872 --> 00:06:14,273 women. I see them all 300 00:06:14,273 --> 00:06:15,206 the 301 00:06:15,206 --> 00:06:15,330 time 302 00:06:15,330 --> 00:06:16,175 , 303 00:06:16,175 --> 00:06:16,676 uh, next to the park, trying to 304 00:06:16,676 --> 00:06:17,842 get 305 00:06:17,842 --> 00:06:18,543 their cribs out 306 00:06:18,543 --> 00:06:19,811 walkers out 307 00:06:19,811 --> 00:06:20,445 there's no parking 308 00:06:20,445 --> 00:06:22,247 . So you got 309 00:06:22,247 --> 00:06:22,481 cars going by 310 00:06:22,481 --> 00:06:22,814 at 311 00:06:22,814 --> 00:06:23,248 extreme speeds 312 00:06:23,248 --> 00:06:24,149 I, I hate 313 00:06:24,149 --> 00:06:24,549 to 314 00:06:24,549 --> 00:06:24,950 say 60 miles an 315 00:06:24,950 --> 00:06:25,250 hour or 316 00:06:25,250 --> 00:06:26,585 more 317 00:06:26,585 --> 00:06:26,885 sometimes coming 318 00:06:26,885 --> 00:06:27,519 down 319 00:06:27,519 --> 00:06:28,486 the hill to get out 320 00:06:28,486 --> 00:06:29,870 , out 321 00:06:29,870 --> 00:06:29,855 of the community, get to the 322 00:06:29,855 --> 00:06:30,956 other side of Gatta School 323 00:06:30,956 --> 00:06:31,690 Road 324 00:06:31,690 --> 00:06:31,990 Um, they have bus 325 00:06:31,990 --> 00:06:32,325 stops there. 326 00:06:32,325 --> 00:06:33,558 I see 327 00:06:33,558 --> 00:06:33,825 children catch the 328 00:06:33,825 --> 00:06:34,326 bus 329 00:06:34,326 --> 00:06:35,493 there every 330 00:06:35,493 --> 00:06:35,727 morning. And 331 00:06:35,727 --> 00:06:36,661 we 332 00:06:36,661 --> 00:06:36,895 just need more safety 333 00:06:36,895 --> 00:06:38,196 for 334 00:06:38,196 --> 00:06:38,763 the 335 00:06:38,763 --> 00:06:39,164 pedestrians in 336 00:06:39,164 --> 00:06:40,298 our community 337 00:06:40,298 --> 00:06:40,999 . 338 00:06:40,999 --> 00:06:41,367 And everything. Uh, that's all 339 00:06:41,367 --> 00:06:42,534 I have 340 00:06:42,534 --> 00:06:42,835 . Thanks 341 00:06:42,835 --> 00:06:43,234 . Thank you. 342 00:06:43,234 --> 00:06:44,770 Thank you 343 00:06:44,770 --> 00:06:45,570 . I imagine, uh, I do 344 00:06:45,570 --> 00:06:47,372 see Evan back there. I imagine 345 00:06:47,372 --> 00:06:47,806 he'll be happy to have a 346 00:06:47,806 --> 00:06:48,240 conversation 347 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,107 with you 348 00:06:49,107 --> 00:06:49,441 , uh, as 349 00:06:49,441 --> 00:06:50,800 the 350 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:50,208 evening progresses. Uh 351 00:06:50,208 --> 00:06:50,675 , is 352 00:06:50,675 --> 00:06:51,443 there anyone 353 00:06:51,443 --> 00:06:51,877 else 354 00:06:51,877 --> 00:06:52,143 here wishing 355 00:06:52,143 --> 00:06:52,444 to 356 00:06:52,444 --> 00:06:53,211 speak 357 00:06:53,211 --> 00:06:54,279 during public comment 358 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:54,580 . 359 00:06:54,580 --> 00:06:55,680 All 360 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:56,214 right 361 00:06:56,214 --> 00:06:56,514 , before we move 362 00:06:56,514 --> 00:06:58,350 into 363 00:06:58,350 --> 00:06:59,510 presentations, I did want to 364 00:06:59,510 --> 00:07:00,485 pull one item up 365 00:07:00,485 --> 00:07:00,660 from our 366 00:07:00,660 --> 00:07:01,387 , uh, 367 00:07:01,387 --> 00:07:02,321 later in our agenda, it 368 00:07:02,321 --> 00:07:02,754 was 369 00:07:02,754 --> 00:07:03,880 also on our 370 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:03,555 work 371 00:07:03,555 --> 00:07:04,590 session agenda 372 00:07:04,590 --> 00:07:04,957 I 373 00:07:04,957 --> 00:07:05,257 wanted to 374 00:07:05,257 --> 00:07:05,623 what 375 00:07:05,623 --> 00:07:06,692 my agenda 376 00:07:06,692 --> 00:07:06,828 go 377 00:07:06,828 --> 00:07:07,526 . 378 00:07:07,526 --> 00:07:08,260 Make sure that uh we get 379 00:07:08,260 --> 00:07:09,227 through that 380 00:07:09,227 --> 00:07:09,928 quickly because we 381 00:07:09,928 --> 00:07:10,362 MAY have some people in 382 00:07:10,362 --> 00:07:11,496 attendance 383 00:07:11,496 --> 00:07:11,797 who 384 00:07:11,797 --> 00:07:12,640 will 385 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:12,831 leave 386 00:07:12,831 --> 00:07:13,432 immediately following that 387 00:07:13,432 --> 00:07:13,832 . So 388 00:07:13,832 --> 00:07:14,600 I'm going 389 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,600 to open 390 00:07:16,702 --> 00:07:17,302 , uh, item 8d, 391 00:07:17,302 --> 00:07:18,237 uh, that is an open 392 00:07:18,237 --> 00:07:18,537 , the 393 00:07:18,537 --> 00:07:19,370 open 394 00:07:19,370 --> 00:07:19,438 session 395 00:07:19,438 --> 00:07:20,573 item discuss 396 00:07:20,573 --> 00:07:21,473 and 397 00:07:21,473 --> 00:07:21,874 consider action regarding case 398 00:07:21,874 --> 00:07:23,874 number one 399 00:07:25,544 --> 00:07:26,178 , colon 400 00:07:26,178 --> 00:07:27,579 24-cb-00914-8da 401 00:07:27,579 --> 00:07:27,700 Impactway llc 402 00:07:27,700 --> 00:07:27,980 , 403 00:07:27,980 --> 00:07:28,447 the 404 00:07:28,447 --> 00:07:28,847 Flugerville 405 00:07:28,847 --> 00:07:29,915 Community 406 00:07:29,915 --> 00:07:30,215 Development Corporation in the 407 00:07:30,215 --> 00:07:30,682 city 408 00:07:30,682 --> 00:07:30,883 of Flutterville 409 00:07:30,883 --> 00:07:31,150 , pending 410 00:07:31,150 --> 00:07:31,517 in 411 00:07:31,517 --> 00:07:32,217 the western 412 00:07:32,217 --> 00:07:32,485 District 413 00:07:32,485 --> 00:07:32,818 of 414 00:07:32,818 --> 00:07:33,886 Texas 415 00:07:33,886 --> 00:07:34,486 , Austin Division 416 00:07:34,486 --> 00:07:34,611 . Mr 417 00:07:34,611 --> 00:07:35,220 . 418 00:07:35,220 --> 00:07:36,789 Mayor, will you accept 419 00:07:36,789 --> 00:07:37,556 the 420 00:07:37,556 --> 00:07:38,357 motion? The floor is 421 00:07:38,357 --> 00:07:38,590 yours 422 00:07:38,590 --> 00:07:38,725 . Uh 423 00:07:38,725 --> 00:07:39,191 , 424 00:07:39,191 --> 00:07:39,525 MR. Mayor, I 425 00:07:39,525 --> 00:07:41,260 move 426 00:07:41,260 --> 00:07:41,727 that we 427 00:07:41,727 --> 00:07:42,161 , uh, 428 00:07:42,161 --> 00:07:44,970 immediately 429 00:07:44,970 --> 00:07:45,264 , uh, defund 430 00:07:45,264 --> 00:07:45,564 , uh, 431 00:07:45,564 --> 00:07:47,564 all 432 00:07:48,434 --> 00:07:48,967 , uh, pcdc funding for the 433 00:07:48,967 --> 00:07:49,401 legal 434 00:07:49,401 --> 00:07:49,768 department for 435 00:07:49,768 --> 00:07:50,269 their 436 00:07:50,269 --> 00:07:50,770 legal counsel 437 00:07:50,770 --> 00:07:52,770 . Be 438 00:07:53,380 --> 00:07:53,806 . I have 439 00:07:53,806 --> 00:07:54,340 a 440 00:07:54,340 --> 00:07:55,740 motion in 2nd 441 00:07:55,740 --> 00:07:55,475 , uh, from David 442 00:07:55,475 --> 00:07:57,475 and Rudy 443 00:08:16,929 --> 00:08:17,563 . Uh 444 00:08:17,563 --> 00:08:19,563 , motion fails 445 00:08:21,901 --> 00:08:23,335 Thank you, David. Uh 446 00:08:23,335 --> 00:08:23,636 , we 447 00:08:23,636 --> 00:08:24,503 will 448 00:08:24,503 --> 00:08:26,720 return to item 449 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:26,572 number 4. I have 450 00:08:26,572 --> 00:08:27,600 a couple of 451 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:27,273 proclamations to 452 00:08:27,273 --> 00:08:28,941 make 453 00:08:28,941 --> 00:08:29,274 . I will 454 00:08:29,274 --> 00:08:29,608 , uh, move to the 455 00:08:29,608 --> 00:08:31,608 podium 456 00:08:37,183 --> 00:08:37,650 . So 457 00:08:37,650 --> 00:08:39,650 ok 458 00:08:44,623 --> 00:08:45,124 . Thank you all 459 00:08:45,124 --> 00:08:45,992 for being here 460 00:08:45,992 --> 00:08:46,592 with us tonight. 461 00:08:46,592 --> 00:08:47,590 This is the mayor's 462 00:08:47,590 --> 00:08:48,495 proclamation 463 00:08:48,495 --> 00:08:48,928 declaring 464 00:08:48,928 --> 00:08:49,595 FEBRUARY 465 00:08:49,595 --> 00:08:50,463 2026 is Black History 466 00:08:50,463 --> 00:08:51,230 Month in 467 00:08:51,230 --> 00:08:51,464 the city of Flugerville 468 00:08:51,464 --> 00:08:52,698 . Uh 469 00:08:52,698 --> 00:08:53,366 , 470 00:08:53,366 --> 00:08:53,833 Black History Month 471 00:08:53,833 --> 00:08:54,233 , uh, was 472 00:08:54,233 --> 00:08:55,350 originally 473 00:08:55,350 --> 00:08:55,434 Black 474 00:08:55,434 --> 00:08:55,702 History Week 475 00:08:55,702 --> 00:08:56,200 , 476 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,570 but 477 00:08:57,570 --> 00:08:57,937 in 478 00:08:57,937 --> 00:08:58,170 1976 479 00:08:58,170 --> 00:08:58,571 was 480 00:08:58,571 --> 00:08:59,238 expanded 481 00:08:59,238 --> 00:08:59,839 to 482 00:08:59,839 --> 00:09:00,306 recognize the entire month. 483 00:09:00,306 --> 00:09:00,840 It's now 484 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:01,807 celebrated all 485 00:09:01,807 --> 00:09:02,274 over 486 00:09:02,274 --> 00:09:02,576 North 487 00:09:02,576 --> 00:09:02,875 America 488 00:09:02,875 --> 00:09:03,209 . During this 489 00:09:03,209 --> 00:09:04,677 month 490 00:09:04,677 --> 00:09:04,944 , we celebrate 491 00:09:04,944 --> 00:09:05,178 that 492 00:09:05,178 --> 00:09:05,612 many 493 00:09:05,612 --> 00:09:06,379 achievements 494 00:09:06,379 --> 00:09:06,812 and 495 00:09:06,812 --> 00:09:07,113 contributions 496 00:09:07,113 --> 00:09:07,647 have 497 00:09:07,647 --> 00:09:08,810 been made 498 00:09:08,810 --> 00:09:09,140 by our black 499 00:09:09,140 --> 00:09:09,615 or 500 00:09:09,615 --> 00:09:09,949 African 501 00:09:09,949 --> 00:09:10,349 American 502 00:09:10,349 --> 00:09:10,483 community 503 00:09:10,483 --> 00:09:11,217 . 504 00:09:11,217 --> 00:09:11,384 Black History Month is a 505 00:09:11,384 --> 00:09:11,717 time 506 00:09:11,717 --> 00:09:11,984 where 507 00:09:11,984 --> 00:09:12,518 all 508 00:09:12,518 --> 00:09:13,119 Americans 509 00:09:13,119 --> 00:09:13,519 are 510 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:13,753 encouraged 511 00:09:13,753 --> 00:09:14,220 to 512 00:09:14,220 --> 00:09:14,620 reflect 513 00:09:14,620 --> 00:09:15,588 on 514 00:09:15,588 --> 00:09:16,255 past 515 00:09:16,255 --> 00:09:16,722 successes 516 00:09:16,722 --> 00:09:16,990 and challenges 517 00:09:16,990 --> 00:09:17,590 of 518 00:09:17,590 --> 00:09:18,224 black 519 00:09:18,224 --> 00:09:18,524 communities and look to 520 00:09:18,524 --> 00:09:19,580 the 521 00:09:19,580 --> 00:09:19,525 future to 522 00:09:19,525 --> 00:09:20,160 ensure 523 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:20,893 freedom 524 00:09:20,893 --> 00:09:21,227 , 525 00:09:21,227 --> 00:09:22,328 equity 526 00:09:22,328 --> 00:09:22,696 , and inclusion persist 527 00:09:22,696 --> 00:09:22,962 in 528 00:09:22,962 --> 00:09:23,429 this 529 00:09:23,429 --> 00:09:24,130 great nation. So 530 00:09:24,130 --> 00:09:24,797 I 531 00:09:24,797 --> 00:09:25,131 hereby proclaim 532 00:09:25,131 --> 00:09:26,699 FEBRUARY 533 00:09:26,699 --> 00:09:27,133 2026 534 00:09:27,133 --> 00:09:27,533 as Black 535 00:09:27,533 --> 00:09:28,534 History Month 536 00:09:28,534 --> 00:09:28,836 in the 537 00:09:28,836 --> 00:09:29,468 city 538 00:09:29,468 --> 00:09:31,337 of Flugerville 539 00:09:31,337 --> 00:09:31,458 , uh, Bobby 540 00:09:31,458 --> 00:09:31,838 , 541 00:09:31,838 --> 00:09:32,638 Bobby make 542 00:09:32,638 --> 00:09:34,207 it here. Uh, we're 543 00:09:34,207 --> 00:09:35,175 gonna have 544 00:09:35,175 --> 00:09:36,142 , uh, Bobby Mack 545 00:09:36,142 --> 00:09:36,476 , um, 546 00:09:36,476 --> 00:09:37,310 accept 547 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:37,643 this proclamation 548 00:09:37,643 --> 00:09:38,178 . We'll 549 00:09:38,178 --> 00:09:38,545 make sure that 550 00:09:38,545 --> 00:09:38,846 she gets 551 00:09:38,846 --> 00:09:39,946 it 552 00:09:39,946 --> 00:09:40,513 . 553 00:09:40,513 --> 00:09:40,947 Bobby owns one of 554 00:09:40,947 --> 00:09:41,782 our 555 00:09:41,782 --> 00:09:42,515 restaurants here in 556 00:09:42,515 --> 00:09:42,982 town, and 557 00:09:42,982 --> 00:09:43,416 we were 558 00:09:43,416 --> 00:09:43,917 very 559 00:09:43,917 --> 00:09:44,617 fortunate 560 00:09:44,617 --> 00:09:45,118 to have 561 00:09:45,118 --> 00:09:45,718 the 562 00:09:45,718 --> 00:09:45,952 food here for 563 00:09:45,952 --> 00:09:46,320 the 564 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:46,686 council 565 00:09:46,686 --> 00:09:46,919 catered 566 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:48,121 by 567 00:09:48,121 --> 00:09:48,388 them tonight in 568 00:09:48,388 --> 00:09:49,880 an 569 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:49,522 effort to 570 00:09:49,522 --> 00:09:50,623 show 571 00:09:50,623 --> 00:09:50,890 our support 572 00:09:50,890 --> 00:09:51,190 to 573 00:09:51,190 --> 00:09:51,524 our 574 00:09:51,524 --> 00:09:52,226 black 575 00:09:52,226 --> 00:09:53,126 community and those 576 00:09:53,126 --> 00:09:53,793 all important 577 00:09:53,793 --> 00:09:54,193 black owned 578 00:09:54,193 --> 00:09:54,595 businesses 579 00:09:54,595 --> 00:09:56,396 . Thank you 580 00:09:56,396 --> 00:09:57,864 . Can 581 00:09:57,864 --> 00:09:58,164 we 582 00:09:58,164 --> 00:10:00,164 clap 583 00:10:02,669 --> 00:10:03,690 ? Away 584 00:10:03,690 --> 00:10:03,336 Is 585 00:10:03,336 --> 00:10:04,971 that 586 00:10:04,971 --> 00:10:06,971 way 587 00:10:07,730 --> 00:10:07,473 ? Ok 588 00:10:07,473 --> 00:10:08,410 ok, 589 00:10:08,410 --> 00:10:09,676 ok. We'll, uh 590 00:10:09,676 --> 00:10:09,943 we'll 591 00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:10,477 , we'll make 592 00:10:10,477 --> 00:10:11,778 sure she gets it 593 00:10:11,778 --> 00:10:12,379 . We'll see if 594 00:10:12,379 --> 00:10:13,130 we can get a photo here in a 595 00:10:13,130 --> 00:10:13,747 few minutes. Do I have 596 00:10:13,747 --> 00:10:14,414 another 597 00:10:14,414 --> 00:10:16,382 one here? There it is 598 00:10:16,382 --> 00:10:17,150 . All 599 00:10:17,150 --> 00:10:19,152 right. Uh, I have a second 600 00:10:19,152 --> 00:10:20,553 proclamation to make. This is 601 00:10:20,553 --> 00:10:21,550 , 602 00:10:21,550 --> 00:10:21,621 uh, item 4b. Uh 603 00:10:21,621 --> 00:10:23,230 , earlier 604 00:10:23,230 --> 00:10:23,323 , uh in 605 00:10:23,323 --> 00:10:24,230 our 606 00:10:24,230 --> 00:10:25,492 work session, we had 607 00:10:25,492 --> 00:10:25,992 a 608 00:10:25,992 --> 00:10:26,293 presentation of 609 00:10:26,293 --> 00:10:26,626 our 610 00:10:26,626 --> 00:10:26,993 engineering 611 00:10:26,993 --> 00:10:27,761 department 612 00:10:27,761 --> 00:10:28,127 , uh, and 613 00:10:28,127 --> 00:10:28,428 I do want 614 00:10:28,428 --> 00:10:28,962 to 615 00:10:28,962 --> 00:10:29,763 clarify that our 616 00:10:29,763 --> 00:10:30,129 engineers 617 00:10:30,129 --> 00:10:31,300 do not 618 00:10:31,300 --> 00:10:32,732 drive trains 619 00:10:32,732 --> 00:10:32,895 , so they 620 00:10:32,895 --> 00:10:33,133 , 621 00:10:33,133 --> 00:10:33,433 they 622 00:10:33,433 --> 00:10:34,367 , they 623 00:10:34,367 --> 00:10:34,667 design and 624 00:10:34,667 --> 00:10:35,669 build 625 00:10:35,669 --> 00:10:36,970 some amazing 626 00:10:36,970 --> 00:10:37,637 , uh, 627 00:10:37,637 --> 00:10:37,938 infrastructure here in the, in 628 00:10:37,938 --> 00:10:38,939 our 629 00:10:38,939 --> 00:10:39,773 city 630 00:10:39,773 --> 00:10:40,373 . So 631 00:10:40,373 --> 00:10:40,975 engineers use 632 00:10:40,975 --> 00:10:41,775 their training 633 00:10:41,775 --> 00:10:42,142 and specialized 634 00:10:42,142 --> 00:10:42,642 skills 635 00:10:42,642 --> 00:10:42,909 in creative 636 00:10:42,909 --> 00:10:44,377 and 637 00:10:44,377 --> 00:10:44,946 innovative ways to 638 00:10:44,946 --> 00:10:45,578 fulfill 639 00:10:45,578 --> 00:10:46,346 society's needs 640 00:10:46,346 --> 00:10:46,880 . Engineering 641 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,480 has been called 642 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:48,849 the 643 00:10:48,849 --> 00:10:49,249 invisible 644 00:10:49,249 --> 00:10:50,317 profession 645 00:10:50,317 --> 00:10:50,447 everything around 646 00:10:50,447 --> 00:10:51,185 us 647 00:10:51,185 --> 00:10:52,585 and everything we use 648 00:10:52,585 --> 00:10:52,886 every day 649 00:10:52,886 --> 00:10:53,453 has 650 00:10:53,453 --> 00:10:54,688 been engineered 651 00:10:54,688 --> 00:10:55,880 in one way 652 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:55,889 or another 653 00:10:55,889 --> 00:10:56,990 . Engineering 654 00:10:56,990 --> 00:10:57,591 Week 655 00:10:57,591 --> 00:10:58,580 promotes recognition of the 656 00:10:58,580 --> 00:10:59,593 importance of 657 00:10:59,593 --> 00:11:00,126 a 658 00:11:00,126 --> 00:11:00,827 technical 659 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:01,194 education and a high level 660 00:11:01,194 --> 00:11:01,962 of 661 00:11:01,962 --> 00:11:03,497 math, science, and 662 00:11:03,497 --> 00:11:03,897 technology 663 00:11:03,897 --> 00:11:04,531 literacy. It 664 00:11:04,531 --> 00:11:04,931 also motivates 665 00:11:04,931 --> 00:11:06,133 youth to 666 00:11:06,133 --> 00:11:06,766 pursue 667 00:11:06,766 --> 00:11:07,200 engineering 668 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,569 careers. So 669 00:11:08,569 --> 00:11:09,690 I 670 00:11:09,690 --> 00:11:09,302 proclaim 671 00:11:09,302 --> 00:11:09,603 FEBRUARY 672 00:11:09,603 --> 00:11:10,237 22nd 673 00:11:10,237 --> 00:11:10,737 to 674 00:11:10,737 --> 00:11:11,405 the 28th 675 00:11:11,405 --> 00:11:11,938 as engineers 676 00:11:11,938 --> 00:11:13,107 Week in the city 677 00:11:13,107 --> 00:11:13,740 of 678 00:11:13,740 --> 00:11:14,107 Flutterville. Uh, we 679 00:11:14,107 --> 00:11:14,442 have 680 00:11:14,442 --> 00:11:15,800 Jeff 681 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:15,442 Dunsworth, our 682 00:11:15,442 --> 00:11:15,942 city 683 00:11:15,942 --> 00:11:16,710 engineer 684 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:17,430 and assistant director 685 00:11:17,430 --> 00:11:18,512 of 686 00:11:18,512 --> 00:11:18,979 utility engineering, here to 687 00:11:18,979 --> 00:11:19,413 accept 688 00:11:19,413 --> 00:11:20,147 the 689 00:11:20,147 --> 00:11:20,280 proclamation. Jeff 690 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:20,781 , 691 00:11:20,781 --> 00:11:21,215 would you like to 692 00:11:21,215 --> 00:11:22,315 come forward 693 00:11:22,315 --> 00:11:22,783 ? 694 00:11:22,783 --> 00:11:23,116 Invite all my 695 00:11:23,116 --> 00:11:23,384 fellow engineers 696 00:11:23,384 --> 00:11:23,985 to 697 00:11:23,985 --> 00:11:24,752 come with me 698 00:11:24,752 --> 00:11:26,186 . Absolutely 699 00:11:26,186 --> 00:11:26,586 . 700 00:11:26,586 --> 00:11:26,920 The more 701 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:27,388 , more 702 00:11:27,388 --> 00:11:28,522 engineers means 703 00:11:28,522 --> 00:11:30,522 more fun, right 704 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,320 ? All 705 00:11:40,467 --> 00:11:40,935 right get 706 00:11:40,935 --> 00:11:42,935 a nice photo 707 00:11:44,572 --> 00:11:46,572 . Let's get it 708 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:47,410 . 709 00:11:47,410 --> 00:11:48,609 We'll be 710 00:11:48,609 --> 00:11:48,943 You 711 00:11:48,943 --> 00:11:49,409 you got a 712 00:11:49,409 --> 00:11:49,777 little 713 00:11:49,777 --> 00:11:51,777 more, ok 714 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,120 . And everyone's just 715 00:11:54,281 --> 00:11:54,681 it's like 716 00:11:54,681 --> 00:11:56,583 ok 717 00:11:56,583 --> 00:11:58,485 . Right 718 00:11:58,485 --> 00:11:58,753 And 719 00:11:58,753 --> 00:11:59,153 then 720 00:11:59,153 --> 00:12:00,870 vertical 721 00:12:00,870 --> 00:12:00,454 so 722 00:12:00,454 --> 00:12:02,454 on cold 723 00:12:02,890 --> 00:12:03,190 . Thank you. 724 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:04,625 All 725 00:12:04,625 --> 00:12:06,625 right 726 00:12:16,370 --> 00:12:18,370 . Well, we think 727 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:18,973 we 728 00:12:18,973 --> 00:12:19,506 are CPAs are 729 00:12:19,506 --> 00:12:19,907 financial 730 00:12:19,907 --> 00:12:20,875 engineers 731 00:12:20,875 --> 00:12:22,875 of uh 732 00:12:23,430 --> 00:12:23,811 . Counsel, this 733 00:12:23,811 --> 00:12:25,460 brings us to the reading of 734 00:12:25,460 --> 00:12:26,460 our 735 00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:27,115 consent agenda. Uh, I 736 00:12:27,115 --> 00:12:27,548 would ask 737 00:12:27,548 --> 00:12:28,160 if there are 738 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:28,315 any 739 00:12:28,315 --> 00:12:28,582 items wishing 740 00:12:28,582 --> 00:12:29,550 to 741 00:12:29,550 --> 00:12:30,151 be 742 00:12:30,151 --> 00:12:30,517 pulled from the 743 00:12:30,517 --> 00:12:30,985 consent 744 00:12:30,985 --> 00:12:32,219 agenda. Yes 745 00:12:32,219 --> 00:12:32,886 , MR. Mayor, I'd 746 00:12:32,886 --> 00:12:34,388 like to pull 747 00:12:34,388 --> 00:12:34,722 item 748 00:12:34,722 --> 00:12:35,220 5b as 749 00:12:35,220 --> 00:12:35,322 in 750 00:12:35,322 --> 00:12:36,657 boy 751 00:12:36,657 --> 00:12:36,925 and 752 00:12:36,925 --> 00:12:37,391 item 753 00:12:37,391 --> 00:12:38,726 5d as 754 00:12:38,726 --> 00:12:39,727 in dog 755 00:12:39,727 --> 00:12:40,260 , uh, 756 00:12:40,260 --> 00:12:41,295 Baker and Delta 757 00:12:41,295 --> 00:12:41,629 and I'd 758 00:12:41,629 --> 00:12:42,620 like 759 00:12:42,620 --> 00:12:42,563 to 760 00:12:42,563 --> 00:12:43,797 pull 761 00:12:43,797 --> 00:12:45,990 5c 762 00:12:45,990 --> 00:12:45,900 . 5c as 763 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:46,433 in 764 00:12:46,433 --> 00:12:46,734 Charlie 765 00:12:46,734 --> 00:12:47,340 , uh, 766 00:12:47,340 --> 00:12:47,401 what 767 00:12:47,401 --> 00:12:47,835 , what does 768 00:12:47,835 --> 00:12:49,300 that leave 769 00:12:49,300 --> 00:12:49,303 ? One 770 00:12:49,303 --> 00:12:49,603 This 771 00:12:49,603 --> 00:12:51,380 was a 772 00:12:51,380 --> 00:12:51,772 short one 773 00:12:51,772 --> 00:12:52,600 . Uh 774 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:52,540 , 775 00:12:52,540 --> 00:12:52,940 Trista, would you 776 00:12:52,940 --> 00:12:53,340 , uh, would 777 00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:54,241 you call 778 00:12:54,241 --> 00:12:54,608 our 779 00:12:54,608 --> 00:12:54,975 consent agenda, I 780 00:12:54,975 --> 00:12:55,376 suppose 781 00:12:55,376 --> 00:12:57,780 . Absolutely 782 00:12:57,780 --> 00:12:57,378 . Item 783 00:12:57,378 --> 00:12:59,280 5b 5c 784 00:12:59,280 --> 00:12:59,747 and 5d have 785 00:12:59,747 --> 00:13:00,810 been pulled, um, 786 00:13:00,810 --> 00:13:01,820 which 787 00:13:01,820 --> 00:13:01,382 means the 788 00:13:01,382 --> 00:13:01,649 remaining item 789 00:13:01,649 --> 00:13:02,490 of 790 00:13:02,490 --> 00:13:02,450 5a MAY be 791 00:13:02,450 --> 00:13:04,180 acted upon 792 00:13:04,180 --> 00:13:05,686 . A move 793 00:13:05,686 --> 00:13:06,200 to approve the 794 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:06,520 consent agenda, 795 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,788 such as it is 796 00:13:07,788 --> 00:13:08,122 , the 797 00:13:08,122 --> 00:13:09,560 minutes 798 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:10,625 second. All right, I have a 799 00:13:10,625 --> 00:13:10,958 motion from David 800 00:13:10,958 --> 00:13:11,174 andsea 801 00:13:11,174 --> 00:13:11,459 for 802 00:13:11,459 --> 00:13:13,227 Jonathan 803 00:13:13,227 --> 00:13:14,862 . Uh 804 00:13:14,862 --> 00:13:15,196 , we 805 00:13:15,196 --> 00:13:15,796 have two 806 00:13:15,796 --> 00:13:16,698 members absent from 807 00:13:16,698 --> 00:13:17,640 the 808 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:17,865 council 809 00:13:17,865 --> 00:13:19,865 Deus 810 00:13:22,503 --> 00:13:23,604 . Uh 811 00:13:23,604 --> 00:13:24,500 , that 812 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:24,672 passes 813 00:13:24,672 --> 00:13:26,730 unanimously of those 814 00:13:26,730 --> 00:13:26,198 present 815 00:13:26,198 --> 00:13:26,607 . 816 00:13:26,607 --> 00:13:26,841 That takes 817 00:13:26,841 --> 00:13:28,142 us 818 00:13:28,142 --> 00:13:28,809 to 819 00:13:28,809 --> 00:13:30,809 item 6 820 00:13:30,978 --> 00:13:31,646 , uh, 6a 821 00:13:31,646 --> 00:13:32,613 is discussing consider 822 00:13:32,613 --> 00:13:33,381 action 823 00:13:33,381 --> 00:13:33,981 regarding appointments to the 824 00:13:33,981 --> 00:13:35,783 finance and budget 825 00:13:35,783 --> 00:13:36,116 . Committee. 826 00:13:36,116 --> 00:13:37,418 Uh, we 827 00:13:37,418 --> 00:13:37,752 do 828 00:13:37,752 --> 00:13:39,520 have 829 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:40,154 3 vacancies on 830 00:13:40,154 --> 00:13:40,454 this committee with 831 00:13:40,454 --> 00:13:42,157 terms 832 00:13:42,157 --> 00:13:43,357 ending 833 00:13:43,357 --> 00:13:43,925 in 2026. I believe 834 00:13:43,925 --> 00:13:44,292 we 835 00:13:44,292 --> 00:13:46,194 have 836 00:13:46,194 --> 00:13:46,961 5 837 00:13:46,961 --> 00:13:47,229 applicants here with 838 00:13:47,229 --> 00:13:47,762 us 839 00:13:47,762 --> 00:13:49,430 today 840 00:13:49,430 --> 00:13:50,398 , uh, traditionally 841 00:13:50,398 --> 00:13:50,865 . Uh, 842 00:13:50,865 --> 00:13:51,532 we would call 843 00:13:51,532 --> 00:13:53,267 these applicants 844 00:13:53,267 --> 00:13:54,235 up to 845 00:13:54,235 --> 00:13:55,690 introduce themselves 846 00:13:55,690 --> 00:13:55,570 . The 847 00:13:55,570 --> 00:13:56,105 first on my 848 00:13:56,105 --> 00:13:57,271 list 849 00:13:57,271 --> 00:13:57,672 is m 850 00:13:57,672 --> 00:13:58,439 ak Brewer 851 00:13:58,439 --> 00:14:00,700 She has expressed a 852 00:14:00,700 --> 00:14:00,175 desire 853 00:14:00,175 --> 00:14:01,420 to 854 00:14:01,420 --> 00:14:02,710 not approach unless there are 855 00:14:02,710 --> 00:14:03,211 any questions that would be 856 00:14:03,211 --> 00:14:05,211 required of her 857 00:14:06,981 --> 00:14:07,415 . I really want 858 00:14:07,415 --> 00:14:08,750 to ask 859 00:14:08,750 --> 00:14:09,500 Caesar's 860 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:09,517 questions since 861 00:14:09,517 --> 00:14:11,517 he's not here 862 00:14:13,421 --> 00:14:14,890 . MISS Burke, if 863 00:14:14,890 --> 00:14:15,256 you come, would you be 864 00:14:15,256 --> 00:14:15,957 , would 865 00:14:15,957 --> 00:14:16,424 be, would you be willing to 866 00:14:16,424 --> 00:14:17,826 entertain one 867 00:14:17,826 --> 00:14:18,920 question 868 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,920 ? One 869 00:14:20,428 --> 00:14:22,263 question 870 00:14:22,263 --> 00:14:24,263 ? Oh 871 00:14:29,103 --> 00:14:29,403 . Evening 872 00:14:29,403 --> 00:14:30,710 , it's 873 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:31,720 being mayor and councilor 874 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:31,372 . Yes 875 00:14:31,372 --> 00:14:31,839 , 876 00:14:31,839 --> 00:14:32,730 MR. How MAY I 877 00:14:32,730 --> 00:14:33,541 help 878 00:14:33,541 --> 00:14:34,420 you? Uh, so 879 00:14:34,420 --> 00:14:34,309 this is the 880 00:14:34,309 --> 00:14:35,977 , the 881 00:14:35,977 --> 00:14:36,845 question that 882 00:14:36,845 --> 00:14:37,946 COUNCILMAN 883 00:14:37,946 --> 00:14:38,213 Rui's 884 00:14:38,213 --> 00:14:38,513 traditionally 885 00:14:38,513 --> 00:14:40,513 asks 886 00:14:41,249 --> 00:14:41,382 , um, why do you want 887 00:14:41,382 --> 00:14:41,683 to 888 00:14:41,683 --> 00:14:42,116 serve 889 00:14:42,116 --> 00:14:42,585 on 890 00:14:42,585 --> 00:14:42,985 this 891 00:14:42,985 --> 00:14:43,185 committee 892 00:14:43,185 --> 00:14:43,686 instead 893 00:14:43,686 --> 00:14:44,819 of all of 894 00:14:44,819 --> 00:14:45,387 the 895 00:14:45,387 --> 00:14:45,720 other committees, 896 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,688 boards 897 00:14:46,688 --> 00:14:47,289 , and commissions that 898 00:14:47,289 --> 00:14:47,655 this 899 00:14:47,655 --> 00:14:47,956 will be 900 00:14:47,956 --> 00:14:48,624 a 901 00:14:48,624 --> 00:14:48,990 flugervill house 902 00:14:48,990 --> 00:14:49,424 I wish 903 00:14:49,424 --> 00:14:49,791 I didn't 904 00:14:49,791 --> 00:14:50,910 know 905 00:14:50,910 --> 00:14:50,858 you 906 00:14:50,858 --> 00:14:51,292 personally because no one else 907 00:14:51,292 --> 00:14:52,270 will catch 908 00:14:52,270 --> 00:14:52,761 the joke, but 909 00:14:52,761 --> 00:14:53,895 what I 910 00:14:53,895 --> 00:14:54,496 will say is 911 00:14:54,496 --> 00:14:55,865 , I'll 912 00:14:55,865 --> 00:14:56,631 make it short 913 00:14:56,631 --> 00:14:56,932 and sweet, but you know, just 914 00:14:56,932 --> 00:14:58,166 in 915 00:14:58,166 --> 00:14:58,900 general 916 00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:00,335 , representation 917 00:15:00,335 --> 00:15:00,460 as 918 00:15:00,460 --> 00:15:01,169 a 919 00:15:01,169 --> 00:15:01,503 citizen, I'd like to know where 920 00:15:01,503 --> 00:15:02,937 my tax 921 00:15:02,937 --> 00:15:04,906 dollars are going 922 00:15:04,906 --> 00:15:05,774 . And 923 00:15:05,774 --> 00:15:05,958 ultimately, as a citizen, how 924 00:15:05,958 --> 00:15:06,342 I 925 00:15:06,342 --> 00:15:07,675 can support 926 00:15:07,675 --> 00:15:09,311 all the 927 00:15:09,311 --> 00:15:09,978 let's be 928 00:15:09,978 --> 00:15:10,445 honest, with all the things 929 00:15:10,445 --> 00:15:11,980 that's going on 930 00:15:11,980 --> 00:15:12,213 . Within 931 00:15:12,213 --> 00:15:12,581 our 932 00:15:12,581 --> 00:15:14,820 city 933 00:15:14,820 --> 00:15:14,649 , meaning 934 00:15:14,649 --> 00:15:15,217 the 935 00:15:15,217 --> 00:15:15,785 um the 936 00:15:15,785 --> 00:15:16,518 citizen's response 937 00:15:16,518 --> 00:15:16,785 . To 938 00:15:16,785 --> 00:15:17,285 the 939 00:15:17,285 --> 00:15:18,887 management, to 940 00:15:18,887 --> 00:15:19,521 the leadership. 941 00:15:19,521 --> 00:15:19,822 A lot of it deals 942 00:15:19,822 --> 00:15:20,155 with our 943 00:15:20,155 --> 00:15:20,889 budget 944 00:15:20,889 --> 00:15:21,490 . So 945 00:15:21,490 --> 00:15:23,726 I want to see how I 946 00:15:23,726 --> 00:15:24,359 can contribute to supporting 947 00:15:24,359 --> 00:15:25,427 that council as well as 948 00:15:25,427 --> 00:15:25,827 supporting our 949 00:15:25,827 --> 00:15:26,294 citizens and 950 00:15:26,294 --> 00:15:27,562 understanding 951 00:15:27,562 --> 00:15:28,397 um as best you 952 00:15:28,397 --> 00:15:28,763 can for a policy, per law, per 953 00:15:28,763 --> 00:15:30,432 statute 954 00:15:30,432 --> 00:15:30,666 . How 955 00:15:30,666 --> 00:15:31,233 we 956 00:15:31,233 --> 00:15:32,635 assistant can 957 00:15:32,635 --> 00:15:33,340 support and 958 00:15:33,340 --> 00:15:33,501 understand without 959 00:15:33,501 --> 00:15:34,136 giving up too 960 00:15:34,136 --> 00:15:34,837 much 961 00:15:34,837 --> 00:15:35,437 um 962 00:15:35,437 --> 00:15:35,737 confidential information that 963 00:15:35,737 --> 00:15:37,600 you 964 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:37,906 guys have and aren't 965 00:15:37,906 --> 00:15:39,400 willing to share. I think 966 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:39,775 that 967 00:15:39,775 --> 00:15:40,442 citizens don't always 968 00:15:40,442 --> 00:15:41,244 understand there's certain 969 00:15:41,244 --> 00:15:41,743 things you can and 970 00:15:41,743 --> 00:15:42,100 cannot tell 971 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:43,545 us 972 00:15:43,545 --> 00:15:43,912 . Thank you, ma'am 973 00:15:43,912 --> 00:15:44,346 . You 974 00:15:44,346 --> 00:15:46,140 understand? 2 975 00:15:46,140 --> 00:15:46,415 more questions 976 00:15:46,415 --> 00:15:46,648 . 977 00:15:46,648 --> 00:15:48,500 No 978 00:15:48,500 --> 00:15:48,617 ,. Thank you 979 00:15:48,617 --> 00:15:50,617 for volunteering 980 00:15:51,190 --> 00:15:52,120 This holiday. I'm 981 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:52,988 going around 982 00:15:52,988 --> 00:15:54,456 MR. Coffin. I'm good, thank you 983 00:15:54,456 --> 00:15:55,390 Mr 984 00:15:55,390 --> 00:15:57,390 .. We're good 985 00:15:57,626 --> 00:15:57,993 . Uh 986 00:15:57,993 --> 00:15:59,327 , our next 987 00:15:59,327 --> 00:15:59,861 , 988 00:15:59,861 --> 00:16:01,263 uh, applicant is 989 00:16:01,263 --> 00:16:01,597 , uh, Ronald 990 00:16:01,597 --> 00:16:03,597 Citron 991 00:16:04,433 --> 00:16:05,767 . Is Ronald here with us 992 00:16:05,767 --> 00:16:06,768 this evening 993 00:16:06,768 --> 00:16:07,903 ? I received 994 00:16:07,903 --> 00:16:08,503 a 995 00:16:08,503 --> 00:16:08,904 message that 996 00:16:08,904 --> 00:16:10,138 he's running 997 00:16:10,138 --> 00:16:10,372 late. 998 00:16:10,372 --> 00:16:11,140 Um 999 00:16:11,140 --> 00:16:12,407 . So 1000 00:16:12,407 --> 00:16:12,741 maybe we 1001 00:16:12,741 --> 00:16:13,408 can circle back 1002 00:16:13,408 --> 00:16:13,675 if he's still here at the end. 1003 00:16:13,675 --> 00:16:15,430 We 1004 00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:15,678 , we'll see if we can make 1005 00:16:15,678 --> 00:16:17,120 that happen. All right 1006 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:17,446 . Uh, I 1007 00:16:17,446 --> 00:16:18,214 have Ms 1008 00:16:18,214 --> 00:16:20,214 . Carla Carroll 1009 00:16:21,684 --> 00:16:22,484 . Carla, 1010 00:16:22,484 --> 00:16:26,840 if you would come forward. Sure 1011 00:16:26,889 --> 00:16:28,825 And 1012 00:16:28,825 --> 00:16:29,224 Thank 1013 00:16:29,224 --> 00:16:30,192 you for being 1014 00:16:30,192 --> 00:16:30,559 here 1015 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:31,126 with us 1016 00:16:31,126 --> 00:16:31,264 tonight. Yes, sir 1017 00:16:31,264 --> 00:16:31,627 . 1018 00:16:31,627 --> 00:16:32,995 Would you 1019 00:16:32,995 --> 00:16:33,662 , would you care to 1020 00:16:33,662 --> 00:16:34,196 quickly introduce yourself and 1021 00:16:34,196 --> 00:16:34,997 obviously there's 1022 00:16:34,997 --> 00:16:35,631 one question 1023 00:16:35,631 --> 00:16:36,298 that it sounds like we'll be 1024 00:16:36,298 --> 00:16:38,167 asking everyone why this 1025 00:16:38,167 --> 00:16:39,668 Um 1026 00:16:39,668 --> 00:16:40,202 , I 1027 00:16:40,202 --> 00:16:40,837 have lived here 1028 00:16:40,837 --> 00:16:42,370 in Flugerville 1029 00:16:42,370 --> 00:16:42,671 for, let's see 1030 00:16:42,671 --> 00:16:44,273 , since '07, I am 1031 00:16:44,273 --> 00:16:44,707 the founder of the Zeus and 1032 00:16:44,707 --> 00:16:46,707 Luna Pit 1033 00:16:46,742 --> 00:16:47,376 Ford Foundation. We 1034 00:16:47,376 --> 00:16:48,711 donate our dogs 1035 00:16:48,711 --> 00:16:49,111 to veterans 1036 00:16:49,111 --> 00:16:50,579 . Um 1037 00:16:50,579 --> 00:16:51,213 I 1038 00:16:51,213 --> 00:16:51,513 have 1039 00:16:51,513 --> 00:16:51,747 a long 1040 00:16:51,747 --> 00:16:52,147 history of 1041 00:16:52,147 --> 00:16:52,948 accounting 1042 00:16:52,948 --> 00:16:53,248 . I've 1043 00:16:53,248 --> 00:16:53,682 been an 1044 00:16:53,682 --> 00:16:54,160 accountant for 1045 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,751 30 years 1046 00:16:55,751 --> 00:16:56,850 I have 1047 00:16:56,850 --> 00:16:57,720 been a 1048 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:58,554 budget analyst at Space 1049 00:16:58,554 --> 00:16:59,688 Naval Warfare. I 1050 00:16:59,688 --> 00:16:59,922 have 1051 00:16:59,922 --> 00:17:00,656 a 1052 00:17:00,656 --> 00:17:01,230 bachelor's in accounting, a 1053 00:17:01,230 --> 00:17:02,910 master's 1054 00:17:02,910 --> 00:17:02,758 in public 1055 00:17:02,758 --> 00:17:02,992 administration, and the masters 1056 00:17:02,992 --> 00:17:04,860 in 1057 00:17:04,860 --> 00:17:05,628 Business Administration, and 1058 00:17:05,628 --> 00:17:06,762 I'm working on my doctorate 1059 00:17:06,762 --> 00:17:07,563 in 1060 00:17:07,563 --> 00:17:07,830 business leadership 1061 00:17:07,830 --> 00:17:08,931 . Um 1062 00:17:08,931 --> 00:17:09,298 , I'm 1063 00:17:09,298 --> 00:17:09,832 also 1064 00:17:09,832 --> 00:17:11,600 currently a 1065 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:12,168 uh project 1066 00:17:12,168 --> 00:17:13,502 controls analyst 1067 00:17:13,502 --> 00:17:13,702 for aeco 1068 00:17:13,702 --> 00:17:14,103 . I 1069 00:17:14,103 --> 00:17:15,738 work 1070 00:17:15,738 --> 00:17:16,380 in 1071 00:17:16,380 --> 00:17:16,839 app 1072 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:18,400 Environmental 1073 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:18,708 Protection 1074 00:17:18,708 --> 00:17:19,108 Planning, and 1075 00:17:19,108 --> 00:17:20,976 I am 1076 00:17:20,976 --> 00:17:22,611 super with 1077 00:17:22,611 --> 00:17:24,611 project management 1078 00:17:25,810 --> 00:17:25,381 . 1079 00:17:25,381 --> 00:17:27,381 Next 1080 00:17:29,418 --> 00:17:30,219 . Well 1081 00:17:30,219 --> 00:17:31,620 , yeah 1082 00:17:31,620 --> 00:17:32,154 , I'm gonna 1083 00:17:32,154 --> 00:17:32,421 cancel. I'm 1084 00:17:32,421 --> 00:17:33,423 gonna 1085 00:17:33,423 --> 00:17:33,589 ask 1086 00:17:33,589 --> 00:17:34,189 uh 1087 00:17:34,189 --> 00:17:34,757 COUNCILMAN Marro's question, 1088 00:17:34,757 --> 00:17:36,590 because he's still 1089 00:17:36,590 --> 00:17:36,859 getting 1090 00:17:36,859 --> 00:17:37,293 uh 1091 00:17:37,293 --> 00:17:39,228 the the 1092 00:17:39,228 --> 00:17:40,829 backup speed 1093 00:17:40,829 --> 00:17:40,997 . Why 1094 00:17:40,997 --> 00:17:41,865 this 1095 00:17:41,865 --> 00:17:43,366 committee as opposed to any of 1096 00:17:43,366 --> 00:17:43,633 the other committees, boards, 1097 00:17:43,633 --> 00:17:44,300 or 1098 00:17:44,300 --> 00:17:44,900 commissions that the city 1099 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:45,768 of 1100 00:17:45,768 --> 00:17:47,437 Flugerville has. Well, i 1101 00:17:47,437 --> 00:17:48,400 live 1102 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:48,405 here. Uh 1103 00:17:48,405 --> 00:17:48,771 , I live in 1104 00:17:48,771 --> 00:17:49,805 Highland 1105 00:17:49,805 --> 00:17:50,606 Park 1106 00:17:50,606 --> 00:17:51,700 North and 1107 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:51,374 I have 1108 00:17:51,374 --> 00:17:52,410 seen 1109 00:17:52,410 --> 00:17:52,775 it 1110 00:17:52,775 --> 00:17:53,175 grow immensely 1111 00:17:53,175 --> 00:17:53,910 . We used to 1112 00:17:53,910 --> 00:17:54,510 have 1113 00:17:54,510 --> 00:17:54,877 cows come 1114 00:17:54,877 --> 00:17:55,344 across 1115 00:17:55,344 --> 00:17:55,878 our backyard 1116 00:17:55,878 --> 00:17:56,846 and now there's 1117 00:17:56,846 --> 00:17:57,460 , you know 1118 00:17:57,460 --> 00:17:57,747 , a 1119 00:17:57,747 --> 00:17:58,150 lot of business es 1120 00:17:58,150 --> 00:17:58,281 and so on 1121 00:17:58,281 --> 00:17:58,681 and 1122 00:17:58,681 --> 00:17:59,115 so forth 1123 00:17:59,115 --> 00:18:01,500 , and 1124 00:18:01,500 --> 00:18:01,417 . Because of 1125 00:18:01,417 --> 00:18:01,751 what my 1126 00:18:01,751 --> 00:18:03,619 personal 1127 00:18:03,619 --> 00:18:04,187 goal is 1128 00:18:04,187 --> 00:18:05,688 . After 1129 00:18:05,688 --> 00:18:07,523 I graduate with a doctorate 1130 00:18:07,523 --> 00:18:08,357 . Um 1131 00:18:08,357 --> 00:18:08,991 I'm more curious and want to 1132 00:18:08,991 --> 00:18:10,260 learn more about 1133 00:18:10,260 --> 00:18:10,293 how 1134 00:18:10,293 --> 00:18:10,993 their 1135 00:18:10,993 --> 00:18:12,462 finances go and so on and 1136 00:18:12,462 --> 00:18:12,962 so 1137 00:18:12,962 --> 00:18:13,229 forth. So 1138 00:18:13,229 --> 00:18:13,729 my 1139 00:18:13,729 --> 00:18:13,997 goal is I want to 1140 00:18:13,997 --> 00:18:14,597 go 1141 00:18:14,597 --> 00:18:14,931 to Congress and help them 1142 00:18:14,931 --> 00:18:15,398 fix the 1143 00:18:15,398 --> 00:18:15,565 va. That's 1144 00:18:15,565 --> 00:18:15,932 why I'm 1145 00:18:15,932 --> 00:18:16,599 getting 1146 00:18:16,599 --> 00:18:17,660 all 1147 00:18:17,660 --> 00:18:17,483 the degrees 1148 00:18:17,483 --> 00:18:17,643 , but 1149 00:18:17,643 --> 00:18:17,806 I 1150 00:18:17,806 --> 00:18:19,680 need 1151 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:19,402 to 1152 00:18:19,402 --> 00:18:19,902 learn 1153 00:18:19,902 --> 00:18:20,103 and see 1154 00:18:20,103 --> 00:18:20,403 what's 1155 00:18:20,403 --> 00:18:21,170 going 1156 00:18:21,170 --> 00:18:21,738 on in 1157 00:18:21,738 --> 00:18:22,305 my own city 1158 00:18:22,305 --> 00:18:23,306 . So 1159 00:18:23,306 --> 00:18:23,706 why 1160 00:18:23,706 --> 00:18:24,273 not? Uh 1161 00:18:24,273 --> 00:18:24,574 , like I said, I 1162 00:18:24,574 --> 00:18:26,376 have 1163 00:18:26,376 --> 00:18:28,376 project management skills 1164 00:18:28,378 --> 00:18:28,678 . You 1165 00:18:28,678 --> 00:18:30,678 know 1166 00:18:30,814 --> 00:18:31,214 , so I'm here, I'm here to 1167 00:18:31,214 --> 00:18:32,815 help learn 1168 00:18:32,815 --> 00:18:34,815 and 1169 00:18:35,850 --> 00:18:35,385 volunteer my 1170 00:18:35,385 --> 00:18:37,385 time 1171 00:18:38,221 --> 00:18:39,355 Thank you 1172 00:18:39,355 --> 00:18:40,560 , ma'am. Mhm. All 1173 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:40,323 right, ma'am. I, I was curious. 1174 00:18:40,323 --> 00:18:41,224 I 1175 00:18:41,224 --> 00:18:41,557 was 1176 00:18:41,557 --> 00:18:41,825 reading 1177 00:18:41,825 --> 00:18:41,958 your 1178 00:18:41,958 --> 00:18:42,592 your 1179 00:18:42,592 --> 00:18:43,726 application and it you 1180 00:18:43,726 --> 00:18:44,930 uh 1181 00:18:44,930 --> 00:18:44,661 mentioned 1182 00:18:44,661 --> 00:18:44,961 uh transparency in no 1183 00:18:44,961 --> 00:18:45,761 way 1184 00:18:45,761 --> 00:18:46,162 , shape 1185 00:18:46,162 --> 00:18:46,596 or form should any 1186 00:18:46,596 --> 00:18:47,130 member of the 1187 00:18:47,130 --> 00:18:48,331 finance committee 1188 00:18:48,331 --> 00:18:48,631 or 1189 00:18:48,631 --> 00:18:48,965 council 1190 00:18:48,965 --> 00:18:49,299 members 1191 00:18:49,299 --> 00:18:49,465 asked 1192 00:18:49,465 --> 00:18:49,899 for 1193 00:18:49,899 --> 00:18:50,333 information 1194 00:18:50,333 --> 00:18:50,867 and 1195 00:18:50,867 --> 00:18:50,987 be sidelined 1196 00:18:50,987 --> 00:18:51,735 . 1197 00:18:51,735 --> 00:18:53,236 What what do you mean by that 1198 00:18:53,236 --> 00:18:53,503 ? 1199 00:18:53,503 --> 00:18:54,537 If 1200 00:18:54,537 --> 00:18:55,171 i 1201 00:18:55,171 --> 00:18:55,438 ask 1202 00:18:55,438 --> 00:18:55,872 for 1203 00:18:55,872 --> 00:18:56,973 or anybody in 1204 00:18:56,973 --> 00:18:57,540 the 1205 00:18:57,540 --> 00:18:59,540 public asks for 1206 00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:00,576 uh, most people 1207 00:19:00,576 --> 00:19:01,611 don't know, they can 1208 00:19:01,611 --> 00:19:02,790 go online 1209 00:19:02,790 --> 00:19:04,790 and download 1210 00:19:04,481 --> 00:19:04,848 . Your 1211 00:19:04,848 --> 00:19:05,882 financials 1212 00:19:05,882 --> 00:19:06,883 . 1213 00:19:06,883 --> 00:19:08,618 So if we can point that out to 1214 00:19:08,618 --> 00:19:08,985 people, that 1215 00:19:08,985 --> 00:19:09,186 would be 1216 00:19:09,186 --> 00:19:09,385 a 1217 00:19:09,385 --> 00:19:09,652 big 1218 00:19:09,652 --> 00:19:10,820 help 1219 00:19:10,820 --> 00:19:11,588 . I know that there's a lot 1220 00:19:11,588 --> 00:19:13,423 of people who don't know that 1221 00:19:13,423 --> 00:19:13,723 They're not aware that you can 1222 00:19:13,723 --> 00:19:15,258 pull 1223 00:19:15,258 --> 00:19:16,260 down financials. That's 1224 00:19:16,260 --> 00:19:16,426 what I mean by transparency, by 1225 00:19:16,426 --> 00:19:17,595 letting 1226 00:19:17,595 --> 00:19:17,961 them know, hey, look, 1227 00:19:17,961 --> 00:19:18,295 you can 1228 00:19:18,295 --> 00:19:19,562 go online 1229 00:19:19,562 --> 00:19:19,863 and download 1230 00:19:19,863 --> 00:19:20,130 all 1231 00:19:20,130 --> 00:19:20,363 the all 1232 00:19:20,363 --> 00:19:20,697 all 1233 00:19:20,697 --> 00:19:21,965 the 1234 00:19:21,965 --> 00:19:22,599 transcripts 1235 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:23,990 and where the money is going 1236 00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:24,301 and so on and 1237 00:19:24,301 --> 00:19:24,567 so forth 1238 00:19:24,567 --> 00:19:25,335 from 1239 00:19:25,335 --> 00:19:26,369 previous years and 1240 00:19:26,369 --> 00:19:26,703 this current 1241 00:19:26,703 --> 00:19:27,237 year 1242 00:19:27,237 --> 00:19:27,504 . Uh 1243 00:19:27,504 --> 00:19:29,272 , you 1244 00:19:29,272 --> 00:19:29,572 also said, or was 1245 00:19:29,572 --> 00:19:31,572 it, um 1246 00:19:35,779 --> 00:19:36,120 , everyone has 1247 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:37,615 a 1248 00:19:37,615 --> 00:19:37,781 right 1249 00:19:37,781 --> 00:19:38,248 to 1250 00:19:38,248 --> 00:19:38,515 learn. Yes. Um 1251 00:19:38,515 --> 00:19:38,748 , yeah 1252 00:19:38,748 --> 00:19:39,115 , obviously 1253 00:19:39,115 --> 00:19:39,783 there 1254 00:19:39,783 --> 00:19:40,517 are no 1255 00:19:40,517 --> 00:19:41,117 dumb questions. Um 1256 00:19:41,117 --> 00:19:42,850 what do you mean by 1257 00:19:42,850 --> 00:19:42,519 everyone 1258 00:19:42,519 --> 00:19:42,853 has a right 1259 00:19:42,853 --> 00:19:43,219 to learn 1260 00:19:43,219 --> 00:19:43,653 . Everybody 1261 00:19:43,653 --> 00:19:44,488 in the city 1262 00:19:44,488 --> 00:19:44,889 has a 1263 00:19:44,889 --> 00:19:45,890 right 1264 00:19:45,890 --> 00:19:45,722 to 1265 00:19:45,722 --> 00:19:46,590 learn what's going 1266 00:19:46,590 --> 00:19:46,790 on. If 1267 00:19:46,790 --> 00:19:47,190 they 1268 00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:47,724 have a 1269 00:19:47,724 --> 00:19:49,226 question 1270 00:19:49,226 --> 00:19:49,559 , let's answer. 1271 00:19:49,559 --> 00:19:49,960 If they 1272 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:50,393 have something that 1273 00:19:50,393 --> 00:19:51,127 they need 1274 00:19:51,127 --> 00:19:51,595 to 1275 00:19:51,595 --> 00:19:51,928 be answered 1276 00:19:51,928 --> 00:19:53,731 . And 1277 00:19:53,731 --> 00:19:54,231 we don't have the answer for it 1278 00:19:54,231 --> 00:19:55,666 Let them know 1279 00:19:55,666 --> 00:19:56,200 , we'll get back 1280 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:56,399 to you. That's 1281 00:19:56,399 --> 00:19:56,700 my 1282 00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:57,901 biggest 1283 00:19:57,901 --> 00:19:58,201 thing 1284 00:19:58,201 --> 00:19:59,690 is I 1285 00:19:59,690 --> 00:19:59,369 answer emails right away. 1286 00:19:59,369 --> 00:20:00,270 Hey 1287 00:20:00,270 --> 00:20:00,705 , I got 1288 00:20:00,705 --> 00:20:01,237 your message. I'll 1289 00:20:01,237 --> 00:20:02,539 get back to you 1290 00:20:02,539 --> 00:20:03,273 . Let them know 1291 00:20:03,273 --> 00:20:03,807 that you're working on it, and 1292 00:20:03,807 --> 00:20:04,708 if you don't know 1293 00:20:04,708 --> 00:20:04,975 the answer 1294 00:20:04,975 --> 00:20:05,409 , 1295 00:20:05,409 --> 00:20:05,742 figure it 1296 00:20:05,742 --> 00:20:06,910 out or 1297 00:20:06,910 --> 00:20:07,577 leave them 1298 00:20:07,577 --> 00:20:09,790 someone else who does 1299 00:20:09,790 --> 00:20:09,646 . That's 1300 00:20:09,646 --> 00:20:09,980 what I mean by 1301 00:20:09,980 --> 00:20:10,447 learning. 1302 00:20:10,447 --> 00:20:12,149 Everybody has 1303 00:20:12,149 --> 00:20:12,582 a right to learn 1304 00:20:12,582 --> 00:20:13,316 . 1305 00:20:13,316 --> 00:20:13,483 Everybody who lives here has 1306 00:20:13,483 --> 00:20:13,917 a 1307 00:20:13,917 --> 00:20:14,451 right to 1308 00:20:14,451 --> 00:20:14,885 learn what's going on 1309 00:20:14,885 --> 00:20:16,153 in the city 1310 00:20:16,153 --> 00:20:16,453 you 1311 00:20:16,453 --> 00:20:16,887 know, guide 1312 00:20:16,887 --> 00:20:18,221 them to the 1313 00:20:18,221 --> 00:20:18,588 right 1314 00:20:18,588 --> 00:20:20,323 places. So 1315 00:20:20,323 --> 00:20:20,991 . 1316 00:20:20,991 --> 00:20:21,558 I'm curious if that 1317 00:20:21,558 --> 00:20:22,426 conveys 1318 00:20:22,426 --> 00:20:22,993 a 1319 00:20:22,993 --> 00:20:23,159 requirement of 1320 00:20:23,159 --> 00:20:23,560 other 1321 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:23,828 individuals 1322 00:20:23,828 --> 00:20:25,129 to 1323 00:20:25,129 --> 00:20:25,329 teach 1324 00:20:25,329 --> 00:20:25,762 because 1325 00:20:25,762 --> 00:20:27,230 learning is 1326 00:20:27,230 --> 00:20:27,831 , is individual, 1327 00:20:27,831 --> 00:20:28,131 right? Well, yes 1328 00:20:28,131 --> 00:20:29,366 and no 1329 00:20:29,366 --> 00:20:29,567 . So 1330 00:20:29,567 --> 00:20:30,167 if 1331 00:20:30,167 --> 00:20:31,836 that person is 1332 00:20:31,836 --> 00:20:32,536 willing to learn 1333 00:20:32,536 --> 00:20:33,570 point them in the 1334 00:20:33,570 --> 00:20:34,304 right 1335 00:20:34,304 --> 00:20:35,873 direction. If you read 1336 00:20:35,873 --> 00:20:36,707 case 1337 00:20:36,707 --> 00:20:38,876 study, blah blah blah blah blah 1338 00:20:38,876 --> 00:20:40,377 Here's the website to it 1339 00:20:40,377 --> 00:20:40,978 . 1340 00:20:40,978 --> 00:20:42,978 That's teaching them 1341 00:20:43,180 --> 00:20:43,313 So 1342 00:20:43,313 --> 00:20:43,947 just 1343 00:20:43,947 --> 00:20:44,414 guiding people to where they 1344 00:20:44,414 --> 00:20:45,415 need to go 1345 00:20:45,415 --> 00:20:45,916 . All right 1346 00:20:45,916 --> 00:20:47,618 Uh 1347 00:20:47,618 --> 00:20:47,783 , any 1348 00:20:47,783 --> 00:20:48,252 , 1349 00:20:48,252 --> 00:20:50,530 any other questions 1350 00:20:50,530 --> 00:20:50,521 ? Uh, for 1351 00:20:50,521 --> 00:20:52,156 Carla 1352 00:20:52,156 --> 00:20:52,723 ? Um 1353 00:20:52,723 --> 00:20:53,230 , thank you for. Yes, 1354 00:20:53,230 --> 00:20:54,458 sir 1355 00:20:54,458 --> 00:20:55,920 . For answering our 1356 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:56,393 questions. Uh, we have 1357 00:20:56,393 --> 00:20:56,727 , uh, 1358 00:20:56,727 --> 00:20:57,561 Scott 1359 00:20:57,561 --> 00:20:58,729 , uh, Stiefferman 1360 00:20:58,729 --> 00:20:59,230 , I 1361 00:20:59,230 --> 00:21:00,898 believe. Steer 1362 00:21:00,898 --> 00:21:01,465 or 1363 00:21:01,465 --> 00:21:01,732 tier Stifer, 1364 00:21:01,732 --> 00:21:03,732 ok 1365 00:21:03,767 --> 00:21:04,335 . So 1366 00:21:04,335 --> 00:21:04,601 you're in a German town 1367 00:21:04,601 --> 00:21:06,300 and 1368 00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:06,136 in Germany, German 1369 00:21:06,136 --> 00:21:06,503 they 1370 00:21:06,503 --> 00:21:06,938 pronounce 1371 00:21:06,938 --> 00:21:07,738 the second I 1372 00:21:07,738 --> 00:21:08,720 went 1373 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:08,739 with it 1374 00:21:08,739 --> 00:21:09,139 , but 1375 00:21:09,139 --> 00:21:09,406 Stiferman, thank 1376 00:21:09,406 --> 00:21:10,475 you 1377 00:21:10,475 --> 00:21:10,774 for being here with us 1378 00:21:10,774 --> 00:21:11,342 today 1379 00:21:11,342 --> 00:21:12,776 . Uh, well 1380 00:21:12,776 --> 00:21:13,377 , I'm very 1381 00:21:13,377 --> 00:21:14,110 interested in the position 1382 00:21:14,110 --> 00:21:14,678 simply because I'd like 1383 00:21:14,678 --> 00:21:15,120 to be 1384 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:15,579 able to 1385 00:21:15,579 --> 00:21:17,181 provide 1386 00:21:17,181 --> 00:21:17,948 some 1387 00:21:17,948 --> 00:21:19,416 citizen-based review and audit 1388 00:21:19,416 --> 00:21:19,683 of 1389 00:21:19,683 --> 00:21:20,117 the 1390 00:21:20,117 --> 00:21:21,919 uh budget 1391 00:21:21,919 --> 00:21:22,287 and finances 1392 00:21:22,287 --> 00:21:22,753 , 1393 00:21:22,753 --> 00:21:23,120 um, I've had a 1394 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:23,787 very 1395 00:21:23,787 --> 00:21:24,455 good 1396 00:21:24,455 --> 00:21:24,856 understanding and 1397 00:21:24,856 --> 00:21:25,956 working 1398 00:21:25,956 --> 00:21:26,690 with 1399 00:21:26,690 --> 00:21:27,458 uh multiple parties on 1400 00:21:27,458 --> 00:21:28,459 the 1401 00:21:28,459 --> 00:21:29,293 team 1402 00:21:29,293 --> 00:21:29,727 regarding questions and 1403 00:21:29,727 --> 00:21:30,294 answer 1404 00:21:30,294 --> 00:21:31,610 type sessions 1405 00:21:31,610 --> 00:21:31,762 , but I 1406 00:21:31,762 --> 00:21:32,663 , I 1407 00:21:32,663 --> 00:21:33,397 hope 1408 00:21:33,397 --> 00:21:34,265 elicit um 1409 00:21:34,265 --> 00:21:34,565 deeper dives into 1410 00:21:34,565 --> 00:21:35,232 some 1411 00:21:35,232 --> 00:21:35,499 of 1412 00:21:35,499 --> 00:21:35,699 these 1413 00:21:35,699 --> 00:21:36,233 financial 1414 00:21:36,233 --> 00:21:37,502 concerns or some 1415 00:21:37,502 --> 00:21:38,200 of these 1416 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:38,269 issues that have 1417 00:21:38,269 --> 00:21:38,670 been brought 1418 00:21:38,670 --> 00:21:39,571 up over 1419 00:21:39,571 --> 00:21:39,904 the 1420 00:21:39,904 --> 00:21:40,171 past 1421 00:21:40,171 --> 00:21:40,705 , so 1422 00:21:40,705 --> 00:21:41,873 I 1423 00:21:41,873 --> 00:21:42,506 welcome 1424 00:21:42,506 --> 00:21:43,700 Jonathan, for example 1425 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:45,700 , and his 1426 00:21:45,242 --> 00:21:46,645 prompt 1427 00:21:46,645 --> 00:21:46,845 response and 1428 00:21:46,845 --> 00:21:48,845 his 1429 00:21:48,846 --> 00:21:49,800 summary 1430 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:49,814 of 1431 00:21:49,814 --> 00:21:51,215 current environments as well 1432 00:21:51,215 --> 00:21:51,482 as other team 1433 00:21:51,482 --> 00:21:51,749 members 1434 00:21:51,749 --> 00:21:51,916 that 1435 00:21:51,916 --> 00:21:52,316 have 1436 00:21:52,316 --> 00:21:53,718 contributed 1437 00:21:53,718 --> 00:21:54,218 not 1438 00:21:54,218 --> 00:21:55,185 only review 1439 00:21:55,185 --> 00:21:55,953 and 1440 00:21:55,953 --> 00:21:56,320 audit type roles or 1441 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:56,787 type 1442 00:21:56,787 --> 00:21:57,955 concerns 1443 00:21:57,955 --> 00:21:58,255 . So I don't have 1444 00:21:58,255 --> 00:21:58,790 a 1445 00:21:58,790 --> 00:22:00,191 formal 1446 00:22:00,191 --> 00:22:00,758 um financial 1447 00:22:00,758 --> 00:22:01,225 or audit 1448 00:22:01,225 --> 00:22:02,526 background, but 1449 00:22:02,526 --> 00:22:02,860 . I 1450 00:22:02,860 --> 00:22:03,227 hope to say 1451 00:22:03,227 --> 00:22:04,696 i'm able 1452 00:22:04,696 --> 00:22:05,290 to ask the 1453 00:22:05,290 --> 00:22:05,730 right 1454 00:22:05,730 --> 00:22:06,698 questions that elicit 1455 00:22:06,698 --> 00:22:07,980 the right 1456 00:22:07,980 --> 00:22:09,980 responses 1457 00:22:10,350 --> 00:22:11,350 . And to team 1458 00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:12,200 up on 1459 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:12,303 the teaching concept. I started 1460 00:22:12,303 --> 00:22:13,671 out 1461 00:22:13,671 --> 00:22:13,939 my career as 1462 00:22:13,939 --> 00:22:14,372 a 1463 00:22:14,372 --> 00:22:16,400 Microsoft 1464 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:16,807 product trainer, so one of my 1465 00:22:16,807 --> 00:22:17,909 big things was a lot 1466 00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:18,242 of 1467 00:22:18,242 --> 00:22:18,843 people 1468 00:22:18,843 --> 00:22:19,277 asking for a 1469 00:22:19,277 --> 00:22:19,577 highlight this 1470 00:22:19,577 --> 00:22:20,578 stuff 1471 00:22:20,578 --> 00:22:21,460 I need 1472 00:22:21,460 --> 00:22:21,612 to study for, 1473 00:22:21,612 --> 00:22:22,346 highlight the stuff I 1474 00:22:22,346 --> 00:22:23,480 need to 1475 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,749 review in one of my 1476 00:22:24,749 --> 00:22:25,317 uh, 1477 00:22:25,317 --> 00:22:25,983 long-standing statement is 1478 00:22:25,983 --> 00:22:26,317 learn how to learn, don't learn 1479 00:22:26,317 --> 00:22:26,851 how 1480 00:22:26,851 --> 00:22:27,251 to 1481 00:22:27,251 --> 00:22:27,718 memorize 1482 00:22:27,718 --> 00:22:29,554 . So I follow in 1483 00:22:29,554 --> 00:22:30,187 that same truth of 1484 00:22:30,187 --> 00:22:31,489 teaching 1485 00:22:31,489 --> 00:22:32,189 , 1486 00:22:32,189 --> 00:22:32,349 not necessarily by the book 1487 00:22:32,349 --> 00:22:32,557 , 1488 00:22:32,557 --> 00:22:33,524 but 1489 00:22:33,524 --> 00:22:34,692 by the 1490 00:22:34,692 --> 00:22:36,695 end goal and the 1491 00:22:36,695 --> 00:22:36,995 what it takes to maybe get 1492 00:22:36,995 --> 00:22:38,995 there 1493 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:40,698 Uh 1494 00:22:40,698 --> 00:22:41,320 , David, did you have a 1495 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:41,265 question 1496 00:22:41,265 --> 00:22:42,900 ? I 1497 00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:43,250 , I think 1498 00:22:43,250 --> 00:22:43,735 he 1499 00:22:43,735 --> 00:22:44,350 answered it before I could ask 1500 00:22:44,350 --> 00:22:45,103 him 1501 00:22:45,103 --> 00:22:45,603 , ok 1502 00:22:45,603 --> 00:22:46,170 ? It's always nice to 1503 00:22:46,170 --> 00:22:48,170 have other people 1504 00:22:49,474 --> 00:22:49,599 go first 1505 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:49,907 , 1506 00:22:49,907 --> 00:22:50,708 counsel 1507 00:22:50,708 --> 00:22:52,243 , are questions for Mr 1508 00:22:52,243 --> 00:22:52,845 . 1509 00:22:52,845 --> 00:22:55,245 Steerman? Not for me 1510 00:22:56,381 --> 00:22:56,814 Good. Well 1511 00:22:56,814 --> 00:22:58,549 thank you 1512 00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:59,450 very much 1513 00:22:59,450 --> 00:22:59,884 . Uh, and 1514 00:22:59,884 --> 00:23:01,452 then I have 1515 00:23:01,452 --> 00:23:01,819 , uh, Jonathan, uh, 1516 00:23:01,819 --> 00:23:03,819 Reich 1517 00:23:03,988 --> 00:23:05,957 . Did I get that one right 1518 00:23:05,957 --> 00:23:06,257 Yes. All right. That one is 1519 00:23:06,257 --> 00:23:07,358 German 1520 00:23:07,358 --> 00:23:07,892 . Ok 1521 00:23:07,892 --> 00:23:08,293 . Another German 1522 00:23:08,293 --> 00:23:08,593 , 1523 00:23:08,593 --> 00:23:10,228 yeah 1524 00:23:10,228 --> 00:23:10,929 , um, counsel, MR. Mayor, 1525 00:23:10,929 --> 00:23:12,497 it's good to see you again 1526 00:23:12,497 --> 00:23:12,665 . Um 1527 00:23:12,665 --> 00:23:13,265 , 1528 00:23:13,265 --> 00:23:14,299 I was before 1529 00:23:14,299 --> 00:23:14,632 you guys in 1530 00:23:14,632 --> 00:23:15,200 DECEMBER 1531 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:15,867 , uh, expressing my 1532 00:23:15,867 --> 00:23:16,467 interest in this committee 1533 00:23:16,467 --> 00:23:17,202 , and 1534 00:23:17,202 --> 00:23:17,769 I'm glad to be back 1535 00:23:17,769 --> 00:23:18,136 , um, to 1536 00:23:18,136 --> 00:23:18,771 remind you 1537 00:23:18,771 --> 00:23:19,305 of 1538 00:23:19,305 --> 00:23:19,771 my background 1539 00:23:19,771 --> 00:23:20,171 , um 1540 00:23:20,171 --> 00:23:21,673 I grew up 1541 00:23:21,673 --> 00:23:21,973 in Flugerville from 1542 00:23:21,973 --> 00:23:22,675 7 1543 00:23:22,675 --> 00:23:23,575 to 18 before I 1544 00:23:23,575 --> 00:23:23,776 moved away 1545 00:23:23,776 --> 00:23:24,342 from 1546 00:23:24,342 --> 00:23:24,609 college, when I did 1547 00:23:24,609 --> 00:23:25,430 my 1548 00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:25,844 bachelor's 1549 00:23:25,844 --> 00:23:26,111 in finance and 1550 00:23:26,111 --> 00:23:26,811 my 1551 00:23:26,811 --> 00:23:27,479 master's in 1552 00:23:27,479 --> 00:23:28,279 product development 1553 00:23:28,279 --> 00:23:28,780 Um 1554 00:23:28,780 --> 00:23:29,748 , I've 1555 00:23:29,748 --> 00:23:30,181 spent 1556 00:23:30,181 --> 00:23:30,448 my career as 1557 00:23:30,448 --> 00:23:30,983 a 1558 00:23:30,983 --> 00:23:32,160 consultant and then 1559 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:32,851 most 1560 00:23:32,851 --> 00:23:33,418 recently helping a small long 1561 00:23:33,418 --> 00:23:34,719 firm mountain 1562 00:23:34,719 --> 00:23:34,953 Caldwell startup. 1563 00:23:34,953 --> 00:23:35,220 Um 1564 00:23:35,220 --> 00:23:35,420 , so 1565 00:23:35,420 --> 00:23:37,222 I 1566 00:23:37,222 --> 00:23:37,856 have a little bit of 1567 00:23:37,856 --> 00:23:38,222 experience in Excel if you 1568 00:23:38,222 --> 00:23:39,491 could say 1569 00:23:39,491 --> 00:23:39,824 , and um I 1570 00:23:39,824 --> 00:23:40,910 would love 1571 00:23:40,910 --> 00:23:40,425 to 1572 00:23:40,425 --> 00:23:41,259 apply 1573 00:23:41,259 --> 00:23:41,693 that 1574 00:23:41,693 --> 00:23:42,460 to Flugerville 1575 00:23:42,460 --> 00:23:42,761 and help out as part of 1576 00:23:42,761 --> 00:23:43,128 this 1577 00:23:43,128 --> 00:23:44,429 committee 1578 00:23:44,429 --> 00:23:45,630 . Um, you know, one of 1579 00:23:45,630 --> 00:23:45,630 the things that I've 1580 00:23:45,630 --> 00:23:46,131 heard 1581 00:23:46,131 --> 00:23:46,598 expressed, I 1582 00:23:46,598 --> 00:23:47,532 think 1583 00:23:47,532 --> 00:23:48,199 , by everyone 1584 00:23:48,199 --> 00:23:48,533 here 1585 00:23:48,533 --> 00:23:49,467 is 1586 00:23:49,467 --> 00:23:50,135 the 1587 00:23:50,135 --> 00:23:51,436 transparency and 1588 00:23:51,436 --> 00:23:52,237 um 1589 00:23:52,237 --> 00:23:52,771 helping citizens understand the 1590 00:23:52,771 --> 00:23:53,380 budget is a 1591 00:23:53,380 --> 00:23:53,472 really 1592 00:23:53,472 --> 00:23:54,472 high 1593 00:23:54,472 --> 00:23:54,806 priority. That's something 1594 00:23:54,806 --> 00:23:55,400 that 1595 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:55,607 I 1596 00:23:55,607 --> 00:23:55,907 noticed as well 1597 00:23:55,907 --> 00:23:56,308 when 1598 00:23:56,308 --> 00:23:56,908 I 1599 00:23:56,908 --> 00:23:57,375 was 1600 00:23:57,375 --> 00:23:57,976 , 1601 00:23:57,976 --> 00:23:58,643 um, you know, helping 1602 00:23:58,643 --> 00:23:59,450 with the 1603 00:23:59,450 --> 00:23:59,911 , 1604 00:23:59,911 --> 00:24:00,345 uh, the, the runoff campaign 1605 00:24:00,345 --> 00:24:01,846 for for Doug 1606 00:24:01,846 --> 00:24:02,347 , um, when I was 1607 00:24:02,347 --> 00:24:03,648 speaking with 1608 00:24:03,648 --> 00:24:04,215 people 1609 00:24:04,215 --> 00:24:04,883 who 1610 00:24:04,883 --> 00:24:06,785 were 1611 00:24:06,785 --> 00:24:07,352 um were leaning towards Pat 1612 00:24:07,352 --> 00:24:08,354 McCorry, one of the 1613 00:24:08,354 --> 00:24:09,200 things, one 1614 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:09,621 of the things that really 1615 00:24:09,621 --> 00:24:10,555 resonated with 1616 00:24:10,555 --> 00:24:10,676 his campaign 1617 00:24:10,676 --> 00:24:11,223 was 1618 00:24:11,223 --> 00:24:11,623 the fact that 1619 00:24:11,623 --> 00:24:12,958 he touched 1620 00:24:12,958 --> 00:24:13,491 on 1621 00:24:13,491 --> 00:24:13,925 budget 1622 00:24:13,925 --> 00:24:14,225 transparency 1623 00:24:14,225 --> 00:24:14,593 and on some 1624 00:24:14,593 --> 00:24:15,327 of the 1625 00:24:15,327 --> 00:24:15,594 auditing. Um 1626 00:24:15,594 --> 00:24:15,927 , so I think 1627 00:24:15,927 --> 00:24:16,628 that's a 1628 00:24:16,628 --> 00:24:17,429 really important 1629 00:24:17,429 --> 00:24:17,662 piece 1630 00:24:17,662 --> 00:24:18,363 of 1631 00:24:18,363 --> 00:24:18,963 this 1632 00:24:18,963 --> 00:24:19,980 committee that 1633 00:24:19,980 --> 00:24:19,764 it 1634 00:24:19,764 --> 00:24:20,980 sounds like all of us 1635 00:24:20,980 --> 00:24:20,365 would be 1636 00:24:20,365 --> 00:24:20,632 on 1637 00:24:20,632 --> 00:24:21,660 board 1638 00:24:21,660 --> 00:24:21,533 with 1639 00:24:21,533 --> 00:24:21,967 and 1640 00:24:21,967 --> 00:24:22,601 um that's 1641 00:24:22,601 --> 00:24:23,101 something that I, you know, 1642 00:24:23,101 --> 00:24:23,501 I've talked with 1643 00:24:23,501 --> 00:24:23,936 Melody about a 1644 00:24:23,936 --> 00:24:24,469 little bit 1645 00:24:24,469 --> 00:24:25,360 . I'd 1646 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:25,437 love to 1647 00:24:25,437 --> 00:24:25,738 um see 1648 00:24:25,738 --> 00:24:26,138 how 1649 00:24:26,138 --> 00:24:26,771 we can make 1650 00:24:26,771 --> 00:24:27,672 the budget just 1651 00:24:27,672 --> 00:24:28,673 more accessible to people and 1652 00:24:28,673 --> 00:24:29,208 because of my 1653 00:24:29,208 --> 00:24:29,608 background in not 1654 00:24:29,608 --> 00:24:30,776 just finance 1655 00:24:30,776 --> 00:24:31,476 and technology, I 1656 00:24:31,476 --> 00:24:31,910 think I'm positioned to do that 1657 00:24:31,910 --> 00:24:33,812 So thank you 1658 00:24:33,812 --> 00:24:34,146 . Thank you. I'm 1659 00:24:34,146 --> 00:24:35,313 curious 1660 00:24:35,313 --> 00:24:35,781 , Jonathan 1661 00:24:35,781 --> 00:24:36,581 , um, because 1662 00:24:36,581 --> 00:24:38,830 one of the things we often talk 1663 00:24:38,830 --> 00:24:38,283 about is that 1664 00:24:38,283 --> 00:24:40,190 , um 1665 00:24:40,190 --> 00:24:40,140 , frankly 1666 00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:40,719 , if 1667 00:24:40,719 --> 00:24:41,190 anybody wants to access the 1668 00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:41,953 budget 1669 00:24:41,953 --> 00:24:42,354 , they 1670 00:24:42,354 --> 00:24:42,955 have access to, we 1671 00:24:42,955 --> 00:24:43,105 have it online, we 1672 00:24:43,105 --> 00:24:43,655 have 1673 00:24:43,655 --> 00:24:44,556 available to that 1674 00:24:44,556 --> 00:24:46,556 . But 1675 00:24:46,859 --> 00:24:47,225 to you 1676 00:24:47,225 --> 00:24:47,526 , 1677 00:24:47,526 --> 00:24:48,860 it 1678 00:24:48,860 --> 00:24:49,328 appears that it 1679 00:24:49,328 --> 00:24:49,729 MAY be 1680 00:24:49,729 --> 00:24:50,610 more 1681 00:24:50,610 --> 00:24:51,229 opaque 1682 00:24:51,229 --> 00:24:51,563 than 1683 00:24:51,563 --> 00:24:51,830 we think 1684 00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:51,997 . What 1685 00:24:51,997 --> 00:24:52,631 are 1686 00:24:52,631 --> 00:24:53,398 ideas that you have in 1687 00:24:53,398 --> 00:24:54,133 mind 1688 00:24:54,133 --> 00:24:54,466 where we can make it 1689 00:24:54,466 --> 00:24:55,334 so 1690 00:24:55,334 --> 00:24:56,167 either 1691 00:24:56,167 --> 00:24:56,311 more relative because you know 1692 00:24:56,311 --> 00:24:57,350 , 1693 00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:57,636 data's never been the issue 1694 00:24:57,636 --> 00:24:58,136 , 1695 00:24:58,136 --> 00:24:58,570 right? Like 1696 00:24:58,570 --> 00:24:58,838 people 1697 00:24:58,838 --> 00:24:59,338 have data 1698 00:24:59,338 --> 00:25:00,806 and everything 1699 00:25:00,806 --> 00:25:01,106 , but 1700 00:25:01,106 --> 00:25:01,807 actionable 1701 00:25:01,807 --> 00:25:02,141 dating and be able to do 1702 00:25:02,141 --> 00:25:02,407 that 1703 00:25:02,407 --> 00:25:02,808 is 1704 00:25:02,808 --> 00:25:03,308 always been 1705 00:25:03,308 --> 00:25:04,110 something that's 1706 00:25:04,110 --> 00:25:04,776 remained to it. So how do we 1707 00:25:04,776 --> 00:25:05,878 make it 1708 00:25:05,878 --> 00:25:06,545 more relatable for 1709 00:25:06,545 --> 00:25:07,112 people to 1710 00:25:07,112 --> 00:25:07,412 better to 1711 00:25:07,412 --> 00:25:08,114 ascertain 1712 00:25:08,114 --> 00:25:08,347 and understand what's 1713 00:25:08,347 --> 00:25:08,680 going on. 1714 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,480 That's 1715 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:09,581 a 1716 00:25:09,581 --> 00:25:10,115 great 1717 00:25:10,115 --> 00:25:10,516 question 1718 00:25:10,516 --> 00:25:11,117 . I 1719 00:25:11,117 --> 00:25:11,617 think 1720 00:25:11,617 --> 00:25:11,951 really it's 1721 00:25:11,951 --> 00:25:12,651 it's more 1722 00:25:12,651 --> 00:25:12,985 than just having the 1723 00:25:12,985 --> 00:25:13,652 data like 1724 00:25:13,652 --> 00:25:14,520 you said, it's about 1725 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:14,753 being able 1726 00:25:14,753 --> 00:25:15,120 to tell a story with 1727 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:15,487 the 1728 00:25:15,487 --> 00:25:16,210 data 1729 00:25:16,210 --> 00:25:16,355 and having avenu 1730 00:25:16,355 --> 00:25:17,890 es for the 1731 00:25:17,890 --> 00:25:17,356 public to be able to access 1732 00:25:17,356 --> 00:25:18,190 that 1733 00:25:18,190 --> 00:25:18,757 and understand not just 1734 00:25:18,757 --> 00:25:19,125 the numbers on the screen 1735 00:25:19,125 --> 00:25:20,526 because 1736 00:25:20,526 --> 00:25:21,930 the reality is most 1737 00:25:21,930 --> 00:25:21,727 people won't be able to 1738 00:25:21,727 --> 00:25:22,528 understand the numbers 1739 00:25:22,528 --> 00:25:23,362 it's 1740 00:25:23,362 --> 00:25:23,962 like just 1741 00:25:23,962 --> 00:25:24,730 by themselves 1742 00:25:24,730 --> 00:25:25,164 . It's 1743 00:25:25,164 --> 00:25:25,631 making sure 1744 00:25:25,631 --> 00:25:26,980 they understand, 1745 00:25:26,980 --> 00:25:27,132 you know, if 1746 00:25:27,132 --> 00:25:27,333 we can 1747 00:25:27,333 --> 00:25:27,800 provide 1748 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,200 them with the 1749 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:28,467 reasoning 1750 00:25:28,467 --> 00:25:28,767 behind 1751 00:25:28,767 --> 00:25:29,601 why 1752 00:25:29,601 --> 00:25:29,868 we made 1753 00:25:29,868 --> 00:25:30,502 a 1754 00:25:30,502 --> 00:25:30,837 certain decision. 1755 00:25:30,837 --> 00:25:31,236 Um, the 1756 00:25:31,236 --> 00:25:31,703 story that 1757 00:25:31,703 --> 00:25:31,971 went 1758 00:25:31,971 --> 00:25:32,271 into 1759 00:25:32,271 --> 00:25:33,138 that 1760 00:25:33,138 --> 00:25:33,872 , maybe as much 1761 00:25:33,872 --> 00:25:34,540 as we can 1762 00:25:34,540 --> 00:25:35,240 highlight those things for 1763 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:35,507 people, I think that 1764 00:25:35,507 --> 00:25:36,750 would 1765 00:25:36,750 --> 00:25:36,775 help 1766 00:25:36,775 --> 00:25:37,509 them understand to be more 1767 00:25:37,509 --> 00:25:37,977 connected to the city 1768 00:25:37,977 --> 00:25:38,377 of 1769 00:25:38,377 --> 00:25:38,610 Flugerville 1770 00:25:38,610 --> 00:25:39,178 . Um 1771 00:25:39,178 --> 00:25:40,179 , and I think 1772 00:25:40,179 --> 00:25:43,779 that's something that we can do 1773 00:25:43,882 --> 00:25:44,250 Any other questions for 1774 00:25:44,250 --> 00:25:45,918 Jonathan 1775 00:25:45,918 --> 00:25:47,119 Thank 1776 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,386 you 1777 00:25:47,386 --> 00:25:48,254 . Thank you 1778 00:25:48,254 --> 00:25:49,622 for being here. Uh, did 1779 00:25:49,622 --> 00:25:50,155 , uh, 1780 00:25:50,155 --> 00:25:52,555 Ronald make it in 1781 00:25:54,593 --> 00:25:56,593 ? Yes sir 1782 00:26:01,133 --> 00:26:01,467 All 1783 00:26:01,467 --> 00:26:02,350 right 1784 00:26:02,350 --> 00:26:02,935 , council members 1785 00:26:02,935 --> 00:26:03,235 , we 1786 00:26:03,235 --> 00:26:03,536 have 1787 00:26:03,536 --> 00:26:03,769 up 1788 00:26:03,769 --> 00:26:05,371 to 1789 00:26:05,371 --> 00:26:05,871 3 positions 1790 00:26:05,871 --> 00:26:06,405 to appoint. 1791 00:26:06,405 --> 00:26:07,740 Uh, I do want to 1792 00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:07,874 clarify 1793 00:26:07,874 --> 00:26:08,541 , uh, 1794 00:26:08,541 --> 00:26:09,909 Jonathan, I think our 1795 00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:10,442 last time 1796 00:26:10,442 --> 00:26:11,310 there were 1797 00:26:11,310 --> 00:26:12,445 concerns about 1798 00:26:12,445 --> 00:26:13,479 your 1799 00:26:13,479 --> 00:26:14,180 voter registration still 1800 00:26:14,180 --> 00:26:14,447 being 1801 00:26:14,447 --> 00:26:15,215 in 1802 00:26:15,215 --> 00:26:15,915 Collin County 1803 00:26:15,915 --> 00:26:16,982 , uh, and I 1804 00:26:16,982 --> 00:26:17,416 understand you 1805 00:26:17,416 --> 00:26:18,151 have 1806 00:26:18,151 --> 00:26:18,384 submitted 1807 00:26:18,384 --> 00:26:19,510 to 1808 00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:19,518 ensure 1809 00:26:19,518 --> 00:26:19,818 that your 1810 00:26:19,818 --> 00:26:20,486 voter 1811 00:26:20,486 --> 00:26:20,986 registration 1812 00:26:20,986 --> 00:26:21,488 was transferred to 1813 00:26:21,488 --> 00:26:23,488 Travis County 1814 00:26:24,257 --> 00:26:25,658 . If 1815 00:26:25,658 --> 00:26:26,425 , uh, if he 1816 00:26:26,425 --> 00:26:26,544 were selected, we would need 1817 00:26:26,544 --> 00:26:26,959 to 1818 00:26:26,959 --> 00:26:28,227 ensure that 1819 00:26:28,227 --> 00:26:28,828 it is 1820 00:26:28,828 --> 00:26:29,950 effective 1821 00:26:29,950 --> 00:26:30,496 upon 1822 00:26:30,496 --> 00:26:31,130 confirmation 1823 00:26:31,130 --> 00:26:32,632 of 1824 00:26:32,632 --> 00:26:33,332 the 1825 00:26:33,332 --> 00:26:33,632 transfer. Yes, he, he 1826 00:26:33,632 --> 00:26:35,101 is 1827 00:26:35,101 --> 00:26:35,701 eligible. He 1828 00:26:35,701 --> 00:26:36,102 is eligible. Very 1829 00:26:36,102 --> 00:26:37,303 well. Ok 1830 00:26:37,303 --> 00:26:37,637 . Awesome 1831 00:26:37,637 --> 00:26:37,836 . Thank 1832 00:26:37,836 --> 00:26:38,337 you. 1833 00:26:38,337 --> 00:26:40,730 Glad to hear it 1834 00:26:40,730 --> 00:26:40,507 Travis County's 1835 00:26:40,507 --> 00:26:42,507 better in la 1836 00:26:42,508 --> 00:26:44,110 , Jonathan 1837 00:26:44,110 --> 00:26:44,230 . Uh 1838 00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:44,845 , 1839 00:26:44,845 --> 00:26:45,878 with that counsel, as 1840 00:26:45,878 --> 00:26:46,213 I was 1841 00:26:46,213 --> 00:26:46,879 saying 1842 00:26:46,879 --> 00:26:47,113 , uh, up 1843 00:26:47,113 --> 00:26:48,681 to 1844 00:26:48,681 --> 00:26:48,882 3 1845 00:26:48,882 --> 00:26:49,148 vacancies 1846 00:26:49,148 --> 00:26:50,583 on 1847 00:26:50,583 --> 00:26:51,150 this 1848 00:26:51,150 --> 00:26:52,553 board the next one 1849 00:26:52,553 --> 00:26:53,353 . We 1850 00:26:53,353 --> 00:26:53,719 need at least one in order for 1851 00:26:53,719 --> 00:26:55,354 them to 1852 00:26:55,354 --> 00:26:55,688 make quorum so that 1853 00:26:55,688 --> 00:26:56,122 they can 1854 00:26:56,122 --> 00:26:57,390 hold meetings 1855 00:26:57,390 --> 00:26:58,357 , which I 1856 00:26:58,357 --> 00:26:58,524 think is is the goal of 1857 00:26:58,524 --> 00:26:58,824 this 1858 00:26:58,824 --> 00:27:00,824 item 1859 00:27:02,795 --> 00:27:04,300 . I'm going 1860 00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:04,497 to ask 1861 00:27:04,497 --> 00:27:04,730 for 1862 00:27:04,730 --> 00:27:04,997 your 1863 00:27:04,997 --> 00:27:06,732 top 1864 00:27:06,732 --> 00:27:07,333 12, or 3 1865 00:27:07,333 --> 00:27:08,735 , I'm gonna 1866 00:27:08,735 --> 00:27:09,569 . 1867 00:27:09,569 --> 00:27:11,370 Actually go, uh, yeah, let's 1868 00:27:11,370 --> 00:27:11,405 see, Jonathan 1869 00:27:11,405 --> 00:27:13,172 , your top 1870 00:27:13,172 --> 00:27:13,439 12 or 3 1871 00:27:13,439 --> 00:27:15,439 Sure 1872 00:27:15,508 --> 00:27:16,242 , uh, let's say Jonathan 1873 00:27:16,242 --> 00:27:16,476 Reich and ak Brewer at the top 1874 00:27:16,476 --> 00:27:17,910 of 1875 00:27:17,910 --> 00:27:18,711 mine. Ok 1876 00:27:18,711 --> 00:27:19,679 . Uh, Caesar 1877 00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:19,846 , I 1878 00:27:19,846 --> 00:27:20,790 had 1879 00:27:20,790 --> 00:27:20,880 ak 1880 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,148 and Jonathan. All right 1881 00:27:22,148 --> 00:27:22,548 , Kim 1882 00:27:22,548 --> 00:27:23,115 Kimberly. I 1883 00:27:23,115 --> 00:27:24,550 had Jonathan 1884 00:27:24,550 --> 00:27:24,951 . All 1885 00:27:24,951 --> 00:27:26,853 right, Rudy 1886 00:27:26,853 --> 00:27:27,287 Uh 1887 00:27:27,287 --> 00:27:27,820 , I would have 1888 00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:30,123 been a parrot now 1889 00:27:30,123 --> 00:27:31,725 , aka Jonathan 1890 00:27:31,725 --> 00:27:33,725 All 1891 00:27:34,930 --> 00:27:34,561 um, Melody 1892 00:27:34,561 --> 00:27:36,290 . Aka 1893 00:27:36,290 --> 00:27:36,162 Scott 1894 00:27:36,162 --> 00:27:36,863 and 1895 00:27:36,863 --> 00:27:37,897 Carol, Carlo, sorry 1896 00:27:37,897 --> 00:27:38,197 . I'm sorry, 1897 00:27:38,197 --> 00:27:38,565 that 1898 00:27:38,565 --> 00:27:40,466 was 1899 00:27:40,466 --> 00:27:42,435 ak and Carla 1900 00:27:42,435 --> 00:27:42,902 . All 1901 00:27:42,902 --> 00:27:43,369 right, and 1902 00:27:43,369 --> 00:27:45,369 , uh, David? Uh 1903 00:27:47,573 --> 00:27:48,175 . At 1904 00:27:48,175 --> 00:27:49,543 the risk of uh 1905 00:27:49,543 --> 00:27:50,343 being 1906 00:27:50,343 --> 00:27:51,978 a parent 1907 00:27:51,978 --> 00:27:52,679 . 1908 00:27:52,679 --> 00:27:53,980 Uh, I'm just gonna 1909 00:27:53,980 --> 00:27:54,380 echo 1910 00:27:54,380 --> 00:27:56,380 Melody's 3 1911 00:27:56,716 --> 00:27:56,983 . Aka Carla and 1912 00:27:56,983 --> 00:27:57,317 Scott 1913 00:27:57,317 --> 00:27:58,651 Yes 1914 00:27:58,651 --> 00:27:59,186 . And then mine 1915 00:27:59,186 --> 00:28:01,200 would 1916 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:01,955 be ak 1917 00:28:01,955 --> 00:28:03,290 uh Jonathan and Ronald 1918 00:28:03,290 --> 00:28:03,423 . Uh 1919 00:28:03,423 --> 00:28:03,890 , I 1920 00:28:03,890 --> 00:28:04,958 believe that 1921 00:28:04,958 --> 00:28:05,493 gives 1922 00:28:05,493 --> 00:28:05,725 us 1923 00:28:05,725 --> 00:28:07,595 ak7 1924 00:28:07,595 --> 00:28:08,295 Ronald 1 1925 00:28:08,295 --> 00:28:10,163 , Carla 2 1926 00:28:10,163 --> 00:28:11,898 , Scott 2 1927 00:28:11,898 --> 00:28:12,298 , 1928 00:28:12,298 --> 00:28:12,832 Jonathan 5 1929 00:28:12,832 --> 00:28:14,168 . Uh, based 1930 00:28:14,168 --> 00:28:14,278 on that 1931 00:28:14,278 --> 00:28:14,668 , 1932 00:28:14,668 --> 00:28:15,268 I would 1933 00:28:15,268 --> 00:28:16,269 recommend that 1934 00:28:16,269 --> 00:28:17,300 we 1935 00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:18,872 appoint ak and Jonathan 1936 00:28:18,872 --> 00:28:19,406 . And it 1937 00:28:19,406 --> 00:28:19,839 seems like that 1938 00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:20,907 is 1939 00:28:20,907 --> 00:28:21,410 the 1940 00:28:21,410 --> 00:28:21,675 the 1941 00:28:21,675 --> 00:28:21,908 threshold. All right. I've got 1942 00:28:21,908 --> 00:28:23,310 a 1943 00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:23,875 motion from 1944 00:28:23,875 --> 00:28:24,145 Caesar 1945 00:28:24,145 --> 00:28:24,545 , second 1946 00:28:24,545 --> 00:28:26,513 from Rudy 1947 00:28:26,513 --> 00:28:28,415 . I don't know why I 1948 00:28:28,415 --> 00:28:30,951 did deuces. Oh, hold on, that's 1949 00:28:30,951 --> 00:28:32,385 that's pdf. I'm gonna get back 1950 00:28:32,385 --> 00:28:32,853 to my screen 1951 00:28:32,853 --> 00:28:34,853 . Oh 1952 00:28:44,165 --> 00:28:45,632 Uh 1953 00:28:45,632 --> 00:28:46,633 , motion 1954 00:28:46,633 --> 00:28:47,701 passes unanimously. Uh 1955 00:28:47,701 --> 00:28:48,335 , thank 1956 00:28:48,335 --> 00:28:48,935 you for that. I'm 1957 00:28:48,935 --> 00:28:49,970 going to 1958 00:28:49,970 --> 00:28:50,403 . So 1959 00:28:50,403 --> 00:28:50,670 I did have 1960 00:28:50,670 --> 00:28:51,138 a 1961 00:28:51,138 --> 00:28:51,371 question because 1962 00:28:51,371 --> 00:28:52,739 in 1963 00:28:52,739 --> 00:28:53,730 the past, you 1964 00:28:53,730 --> 00:28:53,273 guys 1965 00:28:53,273 --> 00:28:53,640 have 1966 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:54,841 expressed 1967 00:28:54,841 --> 00:28:55,108 that its mom wasn't 1968 00:28:55,108 --> 00:28:56,900 here 1969 00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:57,244 , that they 1970 00:28:57,244 --> 00:28:57,745 couldn't have a 1971 00:28:57,745 --> 00:28:58,512 vote 1972 00:28:58,512 --> 00:28:59,380 , um, for that we 1973 00:28:59,380 --> 00:28:59,546 or 1974 00:28:59,546 --> 00:29:00,460 at 1975 00:29:00,460 --> 00:29:01,448 least that was 1976 00:29:01,448 --> 00:29:02,249 my 1977 00:29:02,249 --> 00:29:03,784 impression of 1978 00:29:03,784 --> 00:29:04,151 the operation 1979 00:29:04,151 --> 00:29:04,484 . So if 1980 00:29:04,484 --> 00:29:06,453 we have 1981 00:29:06,453 --> 00:29:06,820 another vacancy and 1982 00:29:06,820 --> 00:29:07,421 that's not 1983 00:29:07,421 --> 00:29:08,222 the 1984 00:29:08,222 --> 00:29:08,555 rule 1985 00:29:08,555 --> 00:29:09,289 , then I 1986 00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:10,825 , I would, I 1987 00:29:10,825 --> 00:29:11,224 think it's good 1988 00:29:11,224 --> 00:29:11,358 to fill 1989 00:29:11,358 --> 00:29:11,958 the 1990 00:29:11,958 --> 00:29:12,659 entire committee if 1991 00:29:12,659 --> 00:29:13,160 we can. 1992 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Would you like 1993 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:13,895 to make another 1994 00:29:13,895 --> 00:29:15,895 motion 1995 00:29:15,996 --> 00:29:17,564 ? That time? Um 1996 00:29:17,564 --> 00:29:17,965 I 1997 00:29:17,965 --> 00:29:18,298 , I will 1998 00:29:18,298 --> 00:29:19,633 I will 1999 00:29:19,633 --> 00:29:20,167 say I don't 2000 00:29:20,167 --> 00:29:21,735 believe the 2001 00:29:21,735 --> 00:29:22,350 absence is 2002 00:29:22,350 --> 00:29:22,503 a 2003 00:29:22,503 --> 00:29:22,936 disqualifier. I 2004 00:29:22,936 --> 00:29:23,870 will say when 2005 00:29:23,870 --> 00:29:24,710 I was 2006 00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:24,438 first 2007 00:29:24,438 --> 00:29:24,771 appointed 2008 00:29:24,771 --> 00:29:25,720 to 2009 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,740 pcbc 2010 00:29:26,740 --> 00:29:27,107 in 2011 00:29:27,107 --> 00:29:28,242 2009 2012 00:29:28,242 --> 00:29:28,876 that 2013 00:29:28,876 --> 00:29:29,276 uh someone who 2014 00:29:29,276 --> 00:29:29,609 was not 2015 00:29:29,609 --> 00:29:30,677 present 2016 00:29:30,677 --> 00:29:30,944 was 2017 00:29:30,944 --> 00:29:31,478 also 2018 00:29:31,478 --> 00:29:31,979 appointed, um 2019 00:29:31,979 --> 00:29:33,313 . But 2020 00:29:33,313 --> 00:29:33,547 , uh 2021 00:29:33,547 --> 00:29:34,982 it 2022 00:29:34,982 --> 00:29:35,716 is 2023 00:29:35,716 --> 00:29:36,500 ok and it seemed like 2024 00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:37,351 there 2025 00:29:37,351 --> 00:29:37,918 was a 2026 00:29:37,918 --> 00:29:38,519 something was said 2027 00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:39,953 about it the, the 2028 00:29:39,953 --> 00:29:40,254 last 2029 00:29:40,254 --> 00:29:40,888 time we, 2030 00:29:40,888 --> 00:29:41,789 we just, we just tend 2031 00:29:41,789 --> 00:29:42,890 not 2032 00:29:42,890 --> 00:29:42,556 to 2033 00:29:42,556 --> 00:29:42,956 . 2034 00:29:42,956 --> 00:29:44,591 We like, we 2035 00:29:44,591 --> 00:29:44,858 we like for people 2036 00:29:44,858 --> 00:29:45,325 to 2037 00:29:45,325 --> 00:29:46,270 , to 2038 00:29:46,270 --> 00:29:47,461 present themselves, um 2039 00:29:47,461 --> 00:29:48,662 but it is, it is not 2040 00:29:48,662 --> 00:29:49,960 a 2041 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:49,530 requirement 2042 00:29:49,530 --> 00:29:50,965 , especially if 2043 00:29:50,965 --> 00:29:51,431 council 2044 00:29:51,431 --> 00:29:51,832 members 2045 00:29:51,832 --> 00:29:53,832 are familiar 2046 00:29:53,867 --> 00:29:54,435 with the individual 2047 00:29:54,435 --> 00:29:54,902 . If for 2048 00:29:54,902 --> 00:29:55,903 example, if 2049 00:29:55,903 --> 00:29:56,303 there's someone 2050 00:29:56,303 --> 00:29:56,670 who 2051 00:29:56,670 --> 00:29:58,639 you um 2052 00:29:58,639 --> 00:29:59,273 had 2053 00:29:59,273 --> 00:30:00,607 recruited who wasn't 2054 00:30:00,607 --> 00:30:01,275 able to make it, you're welcome 2055 00:30:01,275 --> 00:30:02,710 to speak on their behalf 2056 00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:04,578 . Uh 2057 00:30:04,578 --> 00:30:04,912 , 2058 00:30:04,912 --> 00:30:05,279 but is 2059 00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:06,981 this 2060 00:30:06,981 --> 00:30:07,281 a 2061 00:30:07,281 --> 00:30:07,915 council's 2062 00:30:07,915 --> 00:30:08,248 prerogative on who we 2063 00:30:08,248 --> 00:30:09,450 appoint 2064 00:30:09,450 --> 00:30:09,917 to boards and 2065 00:30:09,917 --> 00:30:11,819 commissions. Yeah 2066 00:30:11,819 --> 00:30:12,186 If if the 2067 00:30:12,186 --> 00:30:12,853 emergency happens, 2068 00:30:12,853 --> 00:30:13,520 we've done, we've done 2069 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,455 it 2070 00:30:14,455 --> 00:30:16,156 . We 2071 00:30:16,156 --> 00:30:16,657 can bring that 2072 00:30:16,657 --> 00:30:18,125 whoever 2073 00:30:18,125 --> 00:30:18,326 we 2074 00:30:18,326 --> 00:30:19,930 could 2075 00:30:19,930 --> 00:30:21,228 ok, well, I'd like to make a 2076 00:30:21,228 --> 00:30:21,495 motion to 2077 00:30:21,495 --> 00:30:23,163 give 2078 00:30:23,163 --> 00:30:23,665 um this new 2079 00:30:23,665 --> 00:30:25,166 information 2080 00:30:25,166 --> 00:30:26,133 to 2081 00:30:26,133 --> 00:30:26,467 uh recommend 2082 00:30:26,467 --> 00:30:27,135 Ronald 2083 00:30:27,135 --> 00:30:27,534 as the 2084 00:30:27,534 --> 00:30:27,901 , the final 2085 00:30:27,901 --> 00:30:29,901 position 2086 00:30:30,138 --> 00:30:30,805 . For the finance and 2087 00:30:30,805 --> 00:30:32,730 budget. I have a motion 2088 00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:33,730 from 2089 00:30:33,730 --> 00:30:33,407 Melody, I have a second from 2090 00:30:33,407 --> 00:30:35,407 David 2091 00:30:39,313 --> 00:30:41,313 . Hm 2092 00:30:41,482 --> 00:30:41,949 I'm sorry. Did I say 2093 00:30:41,949 --> 00:30:43,117 the right name 2094 00:30:43,117 --> 00:30:43,751 ? So 2095 00:30:43,751 --> 00:30:44,251 would you, 2096 00:30:44,251 --> 00:30:45,586 yeah, in in 2097 00:30:45,586 --> 00:30:45,986 interest of 2098 00:30:45,986 --> 00:30:46,620 further 2099 00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:47,621 discussion, uh, Melody 2100 00:30:47,621 --> 00:30:48,389 , you 2101 00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:49,900 seem to know Ronald, you've 2102 00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:50,240 mentioned that he was 2103 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:50,392 , uh, not 2104 00:30:50,392 --> 00:30:50,858 here with 2105 00:30:50,858 --> 00:30:52,760 you, uh 2106 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,950 convey 2107 00:30:53,950 --> 00:30:53,360 , um, 2108 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,662 his 2109 00:30:54,662 --> 00:30:55,296 qualifications for us 2110 00:30:55,296 --> 00:30:57,296 . Well 2111 00:30:57,365 --> 00:30:57,498 he had applied before, so 2112 00:30:57,498 --> 00:30:58,660 I had 2113 00:30:58,660 --> 00:30:58,866 just reached out to 2114 00:30:58,866 --> 00:30:59,733 him and 2115 00:30:59,733 --> 00:31:00,334 said, hey, we're going to be 2116 00:31:00,334 --> 00:31:01,536 having another thing 2117 00:31:01,536 --> 00:31:01,769 , so do 2118 00:31:01,769 --> 00:31:02,303 you 2119 00:31:02,303 --> 00:31:03,405 want to 2120 00:31:03,405 --> 00:31:04,605 reapply 2121 00:31:04,605 --> 00:31:04,905 and, um, and 2122 00:31:04,905 --> 00:31:06,905 here 2123 00:31:08,420 --> 00:31:08,476 he is 2124 00:31:08,476 --> 00:31:08,709 . There he 2125 00:31:08,709 --> 00:31:10,144 is 2126 00:31:10,144 --> 00:31:10,611 . Ryan 2127 00:31:10,611 --> 00:31:10,878 Ronald 2128 00:31:10,878 --> 00:31:11,512 , lots 2129 00:31:11,512 --> 00:31:13,512 of questions for 2130 00:31:13,781 --> 00:31:14,215 you now 2131 00:31:14,215 --> 00:31:14,782 . Oh, no, no, no 2132 00:31:14,782 --> 00:31:15,249 , no, no 2133 00:31:15,249 --> 00:31:15,583 no, no, no 2134 00:31:15,583 --> 00:31:17,510 , no 2135 00:31:17,510 --> 00:31:17,418 , no,, your ears 2136 00:31:17,418 --> 00:31:17,885 must have 2137 00:31:17,885 --> 00:31:18,152 been burning 2138 00:31:18,152 --> 00:31:18,553 , right? 2139 00:31:18,553 --> 00:31:19,420 We come to 2140 00:31:19,420 --> 00:31:19,620 the podium 2141 00:31:19,620 --> 00:31:19,921 . I'm 2142 00:31:19,921 --> 00:31:20,221 sorry 2143 00:31:20,221 --> 00:31:20,721 , Ronald 2144 00:31:20,721 --> 00:31:21,689 last to 2145 00:31:21,689 --> 00:31:22,230 arrive 2146 00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:22,757 . 2147 00:31:22,757 --> 00:31:23,900 Thank you for showing up 2148 00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:23,791 . Uh 2149 00:31:23,791 --> 00:31:24,125 , 2150 00:31:24,125 --> 00:31:24,525 we were 2151 00:31:24,525 --> 00:31:24,892 , we were 2152 00:31:24,892 --> 00:31:25,726 just 2153 00:31:25,726 --> 00:31:26,427 discussing the, uh, the ap 2154 00:31:26,427 --> 00:31:26,694 point ment s we've made two 2155 00:31:26,694 --> 00:31:26,994 of 2156 00:31:26,994 --> 00:31:28,663 the 2157 00:31:28,663 --> 00:31:29,197 3 appointments. Um, the, 2158 00:31:29,197 --> 00:31:30,398 the other was going 2159 00:31:30,398 --> 00:31:30,965 to remain 2160 00:31:30,965 --> 00:31:31,232 vacant, but we would 2161 00:31:31,232 --> 00:31:31,466 love 2162 00:31:31,466 --> 00:31:32,600 to 2163 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,434 be 2164 00:31:33,434 --> 00:31:33,901 introduced to you if you would 2165 00:31:33,901 --> 00:31:34,969 uh tell us who 2166 00:31:34,969 --> 00:31:35,269 you 2167 00:31:35,269 --> 00:31:35,670 are 2168 00:31:35,670 --> 00:31:36,471 . You 2169 00:31:36,471 --> 00:31:37,972 unfortunately don't have the 2170 00:31:37,972 --> 00:31:38,770 benefit of hearing 2171 00:31:38,770 --> 00:31:38,573 the 2172 00:31:38,573 --> 00:31:39,741 questions that 2173 00:31:39,741 --> 00:31:40,575 were asked 2174 00:31:40,575 --> 00:31:41,900 before you, but one of those 2175 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:41,342 would be 2176 00:31:41,342 --> 00:31:42,100 why this 2177 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:42,243 board and 2178 00:31:42,243 --> 00:31:42,845 not 2179 00:31:42,845 --> 00:31:43,111 something 2180 00:31:43,111 --> 00:31:44,445 else 2181 00:31:44,445 --> 00:31:44,846 , uh, and 2182 00:31:44,846 --> 00:31:45,246 take it 2183 00:31:45,246 --> 00:31:45,546 away 2184 00:31:45,546 --> 00:31:46,315 . Ok 2185 00:31:46,315 --> 00:31:46,981 ? A 2186 00:31:46,981 --> 00:31:47,782 little background 2187 00:31:47,782 --> 00:31:48,490 on myself 2188 00:31:48,490 --> 00:31:48,917 . I've 2189 00:31:48,917 --> 00:31:49,290 done some work 2190 00:31:49,290 --> 00:31:49,283 . 2191 00:31:49,283 --> 00:31:49,651 I've 2192 00:31:49,651 --> 00:31:50,251 , uh, my 2193 00:31:50,251 --> 00:31:50,685 entire career 2194 00:31:50,685 --> 00:31:50,985 has 2195 00:31:50,985 --> 00:31:51,486 been 2196 00:31:51,486 --> 00:31:51,786 , uh, with the 2197 00:31:51,786 --> 00:31:52,353 public 2198 00:31:52,353 --> 00:31:52,753 sector 2199 00:31:52,753 --> 00:31:53,221 , uh, so I 2200 00:31:53,221 --> 00:31:53,688 helped 2201 00:31:53,688 --> 00:31:54,389 Travis 2202 00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:54,822 County build 2203 00:31:54,822 --> 00:31:55,230 the internal 2204 00:31:55,230 --> 00:31:55,423 audit 2205 00:31:55,423 --> 00:31:55,790 department 2206 00:31:55,790 --> 00:31:56,570 . Um 2207 00:31:56,570 --> 00:31:56,458 , I 2208 00:31:56,458 --> 00:31:57,926 also worked 2209 00:31:57,926 --> 00:31:58,526 for Travis County at the 2210 00:31:58,526 --> 00:31:59,595 auditor's office 2211 00:31:59,595 --> 00:31:59,894 , um, I 2212 00:31:59,894 --> 00:32:00,862 have a 2213 00:32:00,862 --> 00:32:02,664 few certifications like 2214 00:32:02,664 --> 00:32:03,398 certified 2215 00:32:03,398 --> 00:32:04,632 um internal auditors 2216 00:32:04,632 --> 00:32:05,199 build it on 2217 00:32:05,199 --> 00:32:05,700 on 2218 00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:06,601 parts expand 2219 00:32:06,601 --> 00:32:07,350 on 2220 00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:07,635 that 2221 00:32:07,635 --> 00:32:09,700 . Um 2222 00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:09,337 , they needed 2223 00:32:09,337 --> 00:32:10,505 some 2224 00:32:10,505 --> 00:32:11,390 internal auditors and a 2225 00:32:11,390 --> 00:32:11,206 lot 2226 00:32:11,206 --> 00:32:11,506 of 2227 00:32:11,506 --> 00:32:12,730 really 2228 00:32:12,730 --> 00:32:13,374 we 2229 00:32:13,374 --> 00:32:13,642 uh were able to 2230 00:32:13,642 --> 00:32:14,342 catch 2231 00:32:14,342 --> 00:32:15,543 some stuff actually 2232 00:32:15,543 --> 00:32:15,810 , but um 2233 00:32:15,810 --> 00:32:16,444 . 2234 00:32:16,444 --> 00:32:16,778 They didn't have internal 2235 00:32:16,778 --> 00:32:18,790 auditors 2236 00:32:18,790 --> 00:32:18,613 , so it's 2237 00:32:18,613 --> 00:32:19,150 , uh, it's me 2238 00:32:19,150 --> 00:32:20,115 and 2239 00:32:20,115 --> 00:32:20,616 one other person 2240 00:32:20,616 --> 00:32:20,882 . Yes 2241 00:32:20,882 --> 00:32:22,650 , and 2242 00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:23,351 , 2243 00:32:23,351 --> 00:32:23,618 um, he still works there and 2244 00:32:23,618 --> 00:32:24,619 I'm 2245 00:32:24,619 --> 00:32:25,553 , um 2246 00:32:25,553 --> 00:32:27,550 . It's 2247 00:32:27,550 --> 00:32:27,856 grown to 3, but 2248 00:32:27,856 --> 00:32:29,570 I've since left. That was like 2249 00:32:29,570 --> 00:32:29,525 8 2250 00:32:29,525 --> 00:32:29,891 years ago. Um 2251 00:32:29,891 --> 00:32:30,392 , we built it 2252 00:32:30,392 --> 00:32:31,459 from the ground 2253 00:32:31,459 --> 00:32:31,893 up though, 2254 00:32:31,893 --> 00:32:33,561 reading uh 2255 00:32:33,561 --> 00:32:33,995 the books 2256 00:32:33,995 --> 00:32:34,229 , and 2257 00:32:34,229 --> 00:32:34,334 we 2258 00:32:34,334 --> 00:32:34,662 , 2259 00:32:34,662 --> 00:32:35,730 um, put 2260 00:32:35,730 --> 00:32:36,264 the 2261 00:32:36,264 --> 00:32:36,731 charters together 2262 00:32:36,731 --> 00:32:38,633 and everything 2263 00:32:38,633 --> 00:32:39,267 , um, so we built 2264 00:32:39,267 --> 00:32:40,101 it from the ground up 2265 00:32:40,101 --> 00:32:40,802 and it 2266 00:32:40,802 --> 00:32:41,170 was, it was good, lots 2267 00:32:41,170 --> 00:32:41,570 of data 2268 00:32:41,570 --> 00:32:42,704 analysis and 2269 00:32:42,704 --> 00:32:42,971 stuff like that 2270 00:32:42,971 --> 00:32:43,204 . 2271 00:32:43,204 --> 00:32:45,204 So 2272 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:45,707 , uh, well, I mean, I've 2273 00:32:45,707 --> 00:32:46,374 always cared about the 2274 00:32:46,374 --> 00:32:47,420 government. I live here 2275 00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:47,742 . I've 2276 00:32:47,742 --> 00:32:48,176 raised a family here. We've 2277 00:32:48,176 --> 00:32:49,145 been raising 2278 00:32:49,145 --> 00:32:49,611 a 2279 00:32:49,611 --> 00:32:50,312 family here, 2280 00:32:50,312 --> 00:32:50,612 love it. I want to cut and I 2281 00:32:50,612 --> 00:32:51,513 want 2282 00:32:51,513 --> 00:32:51,946 to 2283 00:32:51,946 --> 00:32:52,681 contribute this way 2284 00:32:52,681 --> 00:32:53,882 because I mean, I, you 2285 00:32:53,882 --> 00:32:54,150 know 2286 00:32:54,150 --> 00:32:54,883 , 2287 00:32:54,883 --> 00:32:55,785 understand accounting. I have 2288 00:32:55,785 --> 00:32:56,351 a 2289 00:32:56,351 --> 00:32:56,685 master's degree in 2290 00:32:56,685 --> 00:32:56,918 accounting, 2291 00:32:56,918 --> 00:32:58,253 um 2292 00:32:58,253 --> 00:32:59,540 . And 2293 00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:00,456 , um, so that's 2294 00:33:00,456 --> 00:33:01,156 why fab 2295 00:33:01,156 --> 00:33:01,623 when it came up, I saw that it 2296 00:33:01,623 --> 00:33:02,791 was vacant. I 2297 00:33:02,791 --> 00:33:03,458 , I figured, why 2298 00:33:03,458 --> 00:33:03,825 not, you know, this is a good 2299 00:33:03,825 --> 00:33:05,393 way to 2300 00:33:05,393 --> 00:33:05,694 volunteer. I had 2301 00:33:05,694 --> 00:33:05,802 once 2302 00:33:05,802 --> 00:33:06,127 , 2303 00:33:06,127 --> 00:33:07,329 uh, sat 2304 00:33:07,329 --> 00:33:09,329 on the, um 2305 00:33:09,465 --> 00:33:09,764 I 2306 00:33:09,764 --> 00:33:10,465 always 2307 00:33:10,465 --> 00:33:12,101 want to say ethics to 2308 00:33:12,101 --> 00:33:12,433 uh uh the 2309 00:33:12,433 --> 00:33:13,680 equity 2310 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:13,935 , um, uh, board 2311 00:33:13,935 --> 00:33:14,690 . I 2312 00:33:14,690 --> 00:33:14,503 did 2313 00:33:14,503 --> 00:33:14,970 that about 6 2314 00:33:14,970 --> 00:33:15,403 years ago as well. 2315 00:33:15,403 --> 00:33:16,237 Um, that was 2316 00:33:16,237 --> 00:33:16,706 a 2317 00:33:16,706 --> 00:33:17,305 good experience. 2318 00:33:17,305 --> 00:33:18,373 Uh, I do apologize 2319 00:33:18,373 --> 00:33:18,640 for being 2320 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,708 late 2321 00:33:19,708 --> 00:33:20,800 , um, that you, you want 2322 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,576 showed 2323 00:33:21,576 --> 00:33:21,910 up just you, you 2324 00:33:21,910 --> 00:33:22,878 have 2325 00:33:22,878 --> 00:33:23,712 . 2326 00:33:23,712 --> 00:33:24,112 Someone you need to thank, you 2327 00:33:24,112 --> 00:33:25,380 bring it 2328 00:33:25,380 --> 00:33:26,181 , yeah 2329 00:33:26,181 --> 00:33:26,293 , I mean, well 2330 00:33:26,293 --> 00:33:26,815 , 2331 00:33:26,815 --> 00:33:27,616 she's been like I 2332 00:33:27,616 --> 00:33:28,350 just happened 2333 00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:30,385 to check my emails, so 2334 00:33:30,385 --> 00:33:30,497 . So I 2335 00:33:30,497 --> 00:33:30,919 , I 2336 00:33:30,919 --> 00:33:31,987 I, I mean 2337 00:33:31,987 --> 00:33:32,421 , my 2338 00:33:32,421 --> 00:33:32,955 question would be 2339 00:33:32,955 --> 00:33:34,122 for this, is that 2340 00:33:34,122 --> 00:33:34,556 so you 2341 00:33:34,556 --> 00:33:35,257 you I 2342 00:33:35,257 --> 00:33:35,590 don't want to put words in your 2343 00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:36,792 mouth 2344 00:33:36,792 --> 00:33:37,626 , but from what I heard 2345 00:33:37,626 --> 00:33:39,610 you say is that you had 2346 00:33:39,610 --> 00:33:39,861 your 2347 00:33:39,861 --> 00:33:40,796 experiences being an auditor 2348 00:33:40,796 --> 00:33:41,330 . 2349 00:33:41,330 --> 00:33:41,630 You helped create 2350 00:33:41,630 --> 00:33:42,365 the 2351 00:33:42,365 --> 00:33:44,365 internal 2352 00:33:44,499 --> 00:33:45,330 audit department across County 2353 00:33:45,330 --> 00:33:45,635 now build it up 2354 00:33:45,635 --> 00:33:45,935 with 2355 00:33:45,935 --> 00:33:46,468 somebody 2356 00:33:46,468 --> 00:33:46,768 because of your 2357 00:33:46,768 --> 00:33:47,869 skill 2358 00:33:47,869 --> 00:33:48,770 sets and 2359 00:33:48,770 --> 00:33:49,538 , 2360 00:33:49,538 --> 00:33:50,239 um, prior experience and 2361 00:33:50,239 --> 00:33:50,939 build 2362 00:33:50,939 --> 00:33:52,475 it from the ground floor 2363 00:33:52,475 --> 00:33:52,841 . What 2364 00:33:52,841 --> 00:33:53,575 do you 2365 00:33:53,575 --> 00:33:54,443 see here that you 2366 00:33:54,443 --> 00:33:55,100 think 2367 00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:56,578 that you can either 2368 00:33:56,578 --> 00:33:57,120 , um, 2369 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:57,346 improve on 2370 00:33:57,346 --> 00:33:57,813 or Delta 2371 00:33:57,813 --> 00:33:58,213 points or 2372 00:33:58,213 --> 00:33:59,548 you know 2373 00:33:59,548 --> 00:33:59,949 , or 2374 00:33:59,949 --> 00:34:00,282 frankly 2375 00:34:00,282 --> 00:34:01,416 , um, that 2376 00:34:01,416 --> 00:34:01,650 you 2377 00:34:01,650 --> 00:34:02,385 see 2378 00:34:02,385 --> 00:34:03,352 is necessary for us 2379 00:34:03,352 --> 00:34:03,885 to 2380 00:34:03,885 --> 00:34:04,319 take it to 2381 00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:05,530 another level when 2382 00:34:05,530 --> 00:34:06,880 it comes to what we do 2383 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:06,722 at 2384 00:34:06,722 --> 00:34:08,457 financing gear. Sure 2385 00:34:08,457 --> 00:34:08,791 , um, I 2386 00:34:08,791 --> 00:34:09,324 think 2387 00:34:09,324 --> 00:34:10,660 , um, I 2388 00:34:10,660 --> 00:34:11,260 don't, you know, I 2389 00:34:11,260 --> 00:34:11,661 haven't 2390 00:34:11,661 --> 00:34:11,894 been paying 2391 00:34:11,894 --> 00:34:12,561 as 2392 00:34:12,561 --> 00:34:13,280 close 2393 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:13,562 attention to 2394 00:34:13,562 --> 00:34:13,995 what is 2395 00:34:13,995 --> 00:34:14,630 happening 2396 00:34:14,630 --> 00:34:14,963 with finance and 2397 00:34:14,963 --> 00:34:15,397 audit and 2398 00:34:15,397 --> 00:34:15,865 budget. I 2399 00:34:15,865 --> 00:34:16,832 do 2400 00:34:16,832 --> 00:34:18,330 understand um 2401 00:34:18,330 --> 00:34:20,330 city 2402 00:34:20,202 --> 00:34:20,669 financial statements or annual 2403 00:34:20,669 --> 00:34:21,737 budgets, right 2404 00:34:21,737 --> 00:34:22,405 ? Um working for 2405 00:34:22,405 --> 00:34:22,671 consultants as well. I've done 2406 00:34:22,671 --> 00:34:23,639 that 2407 00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:24,600 for 2408 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:24,306 various 2409 00:34:24,306 --> 00:34:24,473 little 2410 00:34:24,473 --> 00:34:24,907 small 2411 00:34:24,907 --> 00:34:26,800 cities across 2412 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:26,308 the 2413 00:34:26,308 --> 00:34:26,608 us 2414 00:34:26,608 --> 00:34:26,942 here 2415 00:34:26,942 --> 00:34:27,376 , for 2416 00:34:27,376 --> 00:34:28,278 instance 2417 00:34:28,278 --> 00:34:28,611 , I 2418 00:34:28,611 --> 00:34:29,378 think 2419 00:34:29,378 --> 00:34:30,613 uh the new 2420 00:34:30,613 --> 00:34:31,346 city 2421 00:34:31,346 --> 00:34:31,613 council being brought up 2422 00:34:31,613 --> 00:34:31,948 next 2423 00:34:31,948 --> 00:34:32,982 to heb 2424 00:34:32,982 --> 00:34:33,115 , you know 2425 00:34:33,115 --> 00:34:33,749 , I 2426 00:34:33,749 --> 00:34:34,116 remember that being 2427 00:34:34,116 --> 00:34:34,350 part of 2428 00:34:34,350 --> 00:34:35,584 a 2429 00:34:35,584 --> 00:34:36,520 capital 2430 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:36,352 improvement program, 2431 00:34:36,352 --> 00:34:37,119 maybe 2432 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:37,553 56 years ago 2433 00:34:37,553 --> 00:34:38,870 , and, and, 2434 00:34:38,870 --> 00:34:38,387 you know, it is 2435 00:34:38,387 --> 00:34:38,787 coming 2436 00:34:38,787 --> 00:34:39,989 up and 2437 00:34:39,989 --> 00:34:40,689 um I've 2438 00:34:40,689 --> 00:34:41,424 been watching, you know 2439 00:34:41,424 --> 00:34:41,757 parks come up 2440 00:34:41,757 --> 00:34:42,358 as well 2441 00:34:42,358 --> 00:34:42,992 . So I 2442 00:34:42,992 --> 00:34:44,226 know the city's 2443 00:34:44,226 --> 00:34:44,793 growing, I just 2444 00:34:44,793 --> 00:34:46,362 wanna, you know 2445 00:34:46,362 --> 00:34:46,963 , uh, see where 2446 00:34:46,963 --> 00:34:47,363 the money's, I mean, that's 2447 00:34:47,363 --> 00:34:48,498 what it is 2448 00:34:48,498 --> 00:34:48,765 , right 2449 00:34:48,765 --> 00:34:49,632 , the 2450 00:34:49,632 --> 00:34:51,600 taxpayers' money is uh 2451 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,100 . Right, 2452 00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:53,336 we're all 2453 00:34:53,336 --> 00:34:53,702 servants entrusted 2454 00:34:53,702 --> 00:34:54,103 with the 2455 00:34:54,103 --> 00:34:54,403 taxpayer's money and 2456 00:34:54,403 --> 00:34:55,371 make 2457 00:34:55,371 --> 00:34:55,637 sure it 2458 00:34:55,637 --> 00:34:55,771 gets 2459 00:34:55,771 --> 00:34:56,472 spent 2460 00:34:56,472 --> 00:34:58,730 appropriately, right, so I 2461 00:34:58,730 --> 00:34:58,541 don't think that, you know, 2462 00:34:58,541 --> 00:34:58,841 you're going to 2463 00:34:58,841 --> 00:35:00,750 get 2464 00:35:00,750 --> 00:35:00,743 anything 2465 00:35:00,743 --> 00:35:01,143 very 2466 00:35:01,143 --> 00:35:02,110 unique from 2467 00:35:02,110 --> 00:35:02,511 me 2468 00:35:02,511 --> 00:35:03,512 other than 2469 00:35:03,512 --> 00:35:04,848 my experience in 2470 00:35:04,848 --> 00:35:04,953 looking 2471 00:35:04,953 --> 00:35:05,481 at 2472 00:35:05,481 --> 00:35:06,482 documents, having 2473 00:35:06,482 --> 00:35:06,749 to 2474 00:35:06,749 --> 00:35:07,249 interpret 2475 00:35:07,249 --> 00:35:07,850 them very quickly 2476 00:35:07,850 --> 00:35:09,185 , and, you 2477 00:35:09,185 --> 00:35:09,518 know, understand what's going 2478 00:35:09,518 --> 00:35:11,187 on. Um 2479 00:35:11,187 --> 00:35:11,387 , I, I, I am 2480 00:35:11,387 --> 00:35:11,655 a 2481 00:35:11,655 --> 00:35:11,801 pf 2482 00:35:11,801 --> 00:35:12,188 101 2483 00:35:12,188 --> 00:35:13,789 graduate, so 2484 00:35:13,789 --> 00:35:14,590 I did, you know, 2485 00:35:14,590 --> 00:35:15,658 at one point, know a little 2486 00:35:15,658 --> 00:35:16,359 bit 2487 00:35:16,359 --> 00:35:16,692 more paid more 2488 00:35:16,692 --> 00:35:17,259 closer attention 2489 00:35:17,259 --> 00:35:17,960 you know, my kids 2490 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,160 were a 2491 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:18,527 little 2492 00:35:18,527 --> 00:35:20,463 younger 2493 00:35:20,463 --> 00:35:20,864 . Um, but I'd love to 2494 00:35:20,864 --> 00:35:22,265 serve in 2495 00:35:22,265 --> 00:35:22,531 whatever 2496 00:35:22,531 --> 00:35:23,650 capacity I 2497 00:35:23,650 --> 00:35:23,332 can really just 2498 00:35:23,332 --> 00:35:24,735 fab I 2499 00:35:24,735 --> 00:35:25,135 guess 2500 00:35:25,135 --> 00:35:25,534 makes the 2501 00:35:25,534 --> 00:35:25,868 most 2502 00:35:25,868 --> 00:35:25,980 sense. Ok 2503 00:35:25,980 --> 00:35:26,302 . I 2504 00:35:26,302 --> 00:35:26,936 thank 2505 00:35:26,936 --> 00:35:27,236 you for 2506 00:35:27,236 --> 00:35:27,503 , for 2507 00:35:27,503 --> 00:35:28,204 bringing 2508 00:35:28,204 --> 00:35:29,138 your skills forward. I see 2509 00:35:29,138 --> 00:35:29,939 on 2510 00:35:29,939 --> 00:35:30,240 your 2511 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:31,474 resume 2512 00:35:31,474 --> 00:35:32,800 your uh you have a 2513 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:32,375 certification in 2514 00:35:32,375 --> 00:35:32,908 risk 2515 00:35:32,908 --> 00:35:33,809 management 2516 00:35:33,809 --> 00:35:33,920 assurance. Uh 2517 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:34,210 , 2518 00:35:34,210 --> 00:35:34,543 you're 2519 00:35:34,543 --> 00:35:34,944 certified 2520 00:35:34,944 --> 00:35:35,345 government 2521 00:35:35,345 --> 00:35:36,112 auditing 2522 00:35:36,112 --> 00:35:36,446 professional 2523 00:35:36,446 --> 00:35:37,130 certified 2524 00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:38,347 Information 2525 00:35:38,347 --> 00:35:39,480 Systems Auditor 2526 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:39,382 , uh 2527 00:35:39,382 --> 00:35:40,650 and cia 2528 00:35:40,650 --> 00:35:40,883 different 2529 00:35:40,883 --> 00:35:41,250 cia 2530 00:35:41,250 --> 00:35:43,250 certified 2531 00:35:43,619 --> 00:35:44,200 internal auditor. Where, where 2532 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:44,687 did you get 2533 00:35:44,687 --> 00:35:44,888 your 2534 00:35:44,888 --> 00:35:45,421 master's 2535 00:35:45,421 --> 00:35:45,821 degree at, by the 2536 00:35:45,821 --> 00:35:47,157 oh, I 2537 00:35:47,157 --> 00:35:47,623 don't 2538 00:35:47,623 --> 00:35:48,250 know if I can 2539 00:35:48,250 --> 00:35:48,491 say because I, I 2540 00:35:48,491 --> 00:35:49,526 get a lot of 2541 00:35:49,526 --> 00:35:49,859 , I didn't 2542 00:35:49,859 --> 00:35:51,859 know how 2543 00:35:52,629 --> 00:35:52,829 you want to be able to get 2544 00:35:52,829 --> 00:35:53,163 this 2545 00:35:53,163 --> 00:35:54,297 position 2546 00:35:54,297 --> 00:35:54,797 , right? We're on the 2547 00:35:54,797 --> 00:35:55,364 same page 2548 00:35:55,364 --> 00:35:56,332 here 2549 00:35:56,332 --> 00:35:56,866 . I mean 2550 00:35:56,866 --> 00:35:57,633 , 2551 00:35:57,633 --> 00:35:58,367 diversity, right? There we 2552 00:35:58,367 --> 00:35:58,601 go 2553 00:35:58,601 --> 00:35:59,168 , 2554 00:35:59,168 --> 00:35:59,669 there we go. We 2555 00:35:59,669 --> 00:35:59,936 , we want 2556 00:35:59,936 --> 00:36:00,170 like, 2557 00:36:00,170 --> 00:36:00,803 no 2558 00:36:00,803 --> 00:36:01,304 , but I 2559 00:36:01,304 --> 00:36:01,471 didn't know 2560 00:36:01,471 --> 00:36:01,738 about 2561 00:36:01,738 --> 00:36:02,438 like 2562 00:36:02,438 --> 00:36:02,739 school Spirit or whatever, 2563 00:36:02,739 --> 00:36:03,272 but I 2564 00:36:03,272 --> 00:36:03,740 have 2565 00:36:03,740 --> 00:36:04,173 gotten 2566 00:36:04,173 --> 00:36:04,574 heat 2567 00:36:04,574 --> 00:36:05,107 on 2568 00:36:05,107 --> 00:36:05,375 many 2569 00:36:05,375 --> 00:36:05,641 Auss 2570 00:36:05,641 --> 00:36:06,175 about 2571 00:36:06,175 --> 00:36:06,709 that. I 2572 00:36:06,709 --> 00:36:07,110 do live 2573 00:36:07,110 --> 00:36:07,977 in 2574 00:36:07,977 --> 00:36:08,378 Austin. I 2575 00:36:08,378 --> 00:36:08,878 , uh, got 2576 00:36:08,878 --> 00:36:10,147 it from 2577 00:36:10,147 --> 00:36:10,680 Texas a&m 2578 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:10,947 . That's where I got 2579 00:36:10,947 --> 00:36:11,548 my 2580 00:36:11,548 --> 00:36:11,915 , uh, master's degree 2581 00:36:11,915 --> 00:36:12,382 . Thank 2582 00:36:12,382 --> 00:36:14,382 you change my 2583 00:36:14,485 --> 00:36:14,951 It 2584 00:36:14,951 --> 00:36:15,351 was online. I 2585 00:36:15,351 --> 00:36:16,252 didn't hear 2586 00:36:16,252 --> 00:36:16,519 any 2587 00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:17,453 bos 2588 00:36:17,453 --> 00:36:17,820 or what. 2589 00:36:17,820 --> 00:36:19,550 There you 2590 00:36:19,550 --> 00:36:19,188 go. All right. Any 2591 00:36:19,188 --> 00:36:19,689 , 2592 00:36:19,689 --> 00:36:20,157 any other 2593 00:36:20,157 --> 00:36:21,457 questions for 2594 00:36:21,457 --> 00:36:21,925 , uh, uh 2595 00:36:21,925 --> 00:36:23,193 for MR. Mr 2596 00:36:23,193 --> 00:36:23,693 . Centrom 2597 00:36:23,693 --> 00:36:24,160 . So thank 2598 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,528 you for coming 2599 00:36:25,528 --> 00:36:26,229 All right, we 2600 00:36:26,229 --> 00:36:26,563 already have a motion on the 2601 00:36:26,563 --> 00:36:28,640 table 2602 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:28,398 , uh, so I 2603 00:36:28,398 --> 00:36:28,798 will start that 2604 00:36:28,798 --> 00:36:29,899 boat. Yeah 2605 00:36:29,899 --> 00:36:31,899 so 2606 00:36:32,669 --> 00:36:33,360 This 2607 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,737 is why we 2608 00:36:34,737 --> 00:36:35,472 like people in 2609 00:36:35,472 --> 00:36:35,738 person. Finance 2610 00:36:35,738 --> 00:36:36,606 and 2611 00:36:36,606 --> 00:36:37,106 budget 2612 00:36:37,106 --> 00:36:37,875 . The vote is 2613 00:36:37,875 --> 00:36:39,800 unanimous. I'm so sorry 2614 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:39,176 , guys 2615 00:36:39,176 --> 00:36:39,676 . 2616 00:36:39,676 --> 00:36:39,943 I went to the 2617 00:36:39,943 --> 00:36:41,177 old 2618 00:36:41,177 --> 00:36:41,611 building and 2619 00:36:41,611 --> 00:36:42,120 then, so 2620 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:42,445 I'm so 2621 00:36:42,445 --> 00:36:43,813 sorry. That's 2622 00:36:43,813 --> 00:36:44,800 all right. Thank you 2623 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:44,414 . You 2624 00:36:44,414 --> 00:36:44,847 , you 2625 00:36:44,847 --> 00:36:46,500 were 2626 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:46,316 successful 2627 00:36:46,316 --> 00:36:46,616 . All 2628 00:36:46,616 --> 00:36:47,500 right 2629 00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:47,450 , 2630 00:36:47,450 --> 00:36:48,585 wonderful 2631 00:36:48,585 --> 00:36:48,852 . He's like, can I go 2632 00:36:48,852 --> 00:36:50,187 home 2633 00:36:50,187 --> 00:36:50,487 now? That 2634 00:36:50,487 --> 00:36:51,287 , that's all, 2635 00:36:51,287 --> 00:36:52,722 that's all you need to be here 2636 00:36:52,722 --> 00:36:53,289 for. Now you should visit with 2637 00:36:53,289 --> 00:36:53,690 the other people who got 2638 00:36:53,690 --> 00:36:54,625 appointed 2639 00:36:54,625 --> 00:36:54,991 to the 2640 00:36:54,991 --> 00:36:55,792 board. Well, 2641 00:36:55,792 --> 00:36:57,930 he doesn't know who they are 2642 00:36:57,930 --> 00:36:57,827 yet 2643 00:36:57,827 --> 00:36:59,280 . I know 2644 00:36:59,280 --> 00:36:59,529 . I'm 2645 00:36:59,529 --> 00:37:00,300 gonna go back 2646 00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:02,300 and reopen 2647 00:37:02,132 --> 00:37:03,800 . Item 2648 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,435 4a because I 2649 00:37:04,435 --> 00:37:04,968 believe we have some 2650 00:37:04,968 --> 00:37:05,402 , uh, some 2651 00:37:05,402 --> 00:37:06,636 individuals 2652 00:37:06,636 --> 00:37:07,370 uh, in 2653 00:37:07,370 --> 00:37:08,505 the audience 2654 00:37:08,505 --> 00:37:09,539 with the 2655 00:37:09,539 --> 00:37:11,539 uh Bobby Mack 2656 00:37:13,476 --> 00:37:13,743 . We 2657 00:37:13,743 --> 00:37:15,345 have 2658 00:37:15,345 --> 00:37:15,946 this presentation for you. Do 2659 00:37:15,946 --> 00:37:16,247 you, do you want to say any 2660 00:37:16,247 --> 00:37:17,213 words 2661 00:37:17,213 --> 00:37:18,148 ? You don't 2662 00:37:18,148 --> 00:37:20,548 have to. I can 2663 00:37:21,852 --> 00:37:22,152 I 2664 00:37:22,152 --> 00:37:22,519 Well 2665 00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:22,786 will, I 2666 00:37:22,786 --> 00:37:23,787 will 2667 00:37:23,787 --> 00:37:24,187 just 2668 00:37:24,187 --> 00:37:24,688 reiterate 2669 00:37:24,688 --> 00:37:25,210 , uh, how important it 2670 00:37:25,210 --> 00:37:26,590 is, uh 2671 00:37:26,590 --> 00:37:27,900 . Uh, in Black History 2672 00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:28,892 Month that we 2673 00:37:28,892 --> 00:37:29,559 support our, our 2674 00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:30,560 local businesses 2675 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:30,961 , uh, 2676 00:37:30,961 --> 00:37:31,428 especially 2677 00:37:31,428 --> 00:37:32,663 , um, those like 2678 00:37:32,663 --> 00:37:33,564 uh 2679 00:37:33,564 --> 00:37:34,798 your restaurant, which serves 2680 00:37:34,798 --> 00:37:35,332 . 2681 00:37:35,332 --> 00:37:35,799 I, I'm sorry 2682 00:37:35,799 --> 00:37:35,966 , your 2683 00:37:35,966 --> 00:37:36,366 junior 2684 00:37:36,366 --> 00:37:37,667 taters are 2685 00:37:37,667 --> 00:37:38,335 enough for 2686 00:37:38,335 --> 00:37:38,602 33 meals. 2687 00:37:38,602 --> 00:37:40,300 But 2688 00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:40,771 , uh, yeah 2689 00:37:40,771 --> 00:37:41,471 , definitely 2690 00:37:41,471 --> 00:37:42,139 excited for you to be here 2691 00:37:42,139 --> 00:37:42,639 . 2692 00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:42,939 We've got this 2693 00:37:42,939 --> 00:37:43,173 , uh, if 2694 00:37:43,173 --> 00:37:43,507 we could 2695 00:37:43,507 --> 00:37:44,341 get in 2696 00:37:44,341 --> 00:37:44,708 front of the flags, 2697 00:37:44,708 --> 00:37:45,108 we'll get 2698 00:37:45,108 --> 00:37:45,475 a photo 2699 00:37:45,475 --> 00:37:46,844 of you 2700 00:37:46,844 --> 00:37:47,345 accepting this 2701 00:37:47,345 --> 00:37:49,345 probation 2702 00:37:53,183 --> 00:37:53,684 . So 2703 00:37:53,684 --> 00:37:55,352 you appreciate 2704 00:37:55,352 --> 00:37:55,852 and get 2705 00:37:55,852 --> 00:37:57,852 ok 2706 00:37:58,155 --> 00:37:58,555 . Ok 2707 00:37:58,555 --> 00:38:00,555 ok 2708 00:38:04,828 --> 00:38:06,828 . Why 2709 00:38:07,565 --> 00:38:09,565 you pay 2710 00:38:16,607 --> 00:38:17,708 . Remember 2711 00:38:17,708 --> 00:38:18,142 , 2712 00:38:18,142 --> 00:38:18,375 y'all all get 2713 00:38:18,375 --> 00:38:20,375 a 2714 00:38:20,912 --> 00:38:22,912 hero's discount 2715 00:38:23,313 --> 00:38:24,548 All 2716 00:38:24,548 --> 00:38:25,830 right 2717 00:38:25,830 --> 00:38:25,243 . Thank you for that 2718 00:38:25,243 --> 00:38:25,716 . 2719 00:38:25,716 --> 00:38:27,510 Um, very excited 2720 00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:27,617 . I know, uh, 2721 00:38:27,617 --> 00:38:28,850 there must be some, some 2722 00:38:28,850 --> 00:38:29,386 weather delays 2723 00:38:29,386 --> 00:38:29,787 with showing up 2724 00:38:29,787 --> 00:38:30,187 late. Not 2725 00:38:30,187 --> 00:38:31,455 our first one 2726 00:38:31,455 --> 00:38:31,573 Uh 2727 00:38:31,573 --> 00:38:32,256 , 2728 00:38:32,256 --> 00:38:33,891 this brings us 2729 00:38:33,891 --> 00:38:34,691 to item 7. This 2730 00:38:34,691 --> 00:38:36,260 is public hearings 2731 00:38:36,260 --> 00:38:36,627 and 2732 00:38:36,627 --> 00:38:38,395 ordinances 2733 00:38:38,395 --> 00:38:40,364 . Item 7a 2734 00:38:40,364 --> 00:38:40,472 conduct 2735 00:38:40,472 --> 00:38:41,131 a 2736 00:38:41,131 --> 00:38:41,765 public hearing and consider 2737 00:38:41,765 --> 00:38:42,699 approving an ordinance 2738 00:38:42,699 --> 00:38:43,367 on first 2739 00:38:43,367 --> 00:38:44,101 reading with the caption read 2740 00:38:44,101 --> 00:38:44,868 in an ordinance of the city 2741 00:38:44,868 --> 00:38:45,569 of 2742 00:38:45,569 --> 00:38:46,236 Flutterville, Texas, amending 2743 00:38:46,236 --> 00:38:47,500 the City of Flutterville 2744 00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:47,537 , Texas 2745 00:38:47,537 --> 00:38:48,172 Code of Ordinances 2746 00:38:48,172 --> 00:38:49,506 , Chapter 92 2747 00:38:49,506 --> 00:38:50,700 , 2748 00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:50,340 adding Articles 3 2749 00:38:50,340 --> 00:38:50,607 and 2750 00:38:50,607 --> 00:38:50,975 4 2751 00:38:50,975 --> 00:38:51,775 regarding 2752 00:38:51,775 --> 00:38:52,243 the 2753 00:38:52,243 --> 00:38:52,943 quasi-judicial 2754 00:38:52,943 --> 00:38:53,610 enforcement of health and 2755 00:38:53,610 --> 00:38:54,445 safety ordinances 2756 00:38:54,445 --> 00:38:54,712 , creating 2757 00:38:54,712 --> 00:38:55,312 a 2758 00:38:55,312 --> 00:38:55,713 building 2759 00:38:55,713 --> 00:38:56,380 and Standards 2760 00:38:56,380 --> 00:38:57,150 commission 2761 00:38:57,150 --> 00:38:57,581 in accordance with 2762 00:38:57,581 --> 00:38:57,948 Chapter 2763 00:38:57,948 --> 00:38:58,682 54 of 2764 00:38:58,682 --> 00:38:59,216 the Local 2765 00:38:59,216 --> 00:39:00,170 Government 2766 00:39:00,170 --> 00:39:00,618 Code 2767 00:39:00,618 --> 00:39:01,685 subsection 2768 00:39:01,685 --> 00:39:01,919 subchapter c 2769 00:39:01,919 --> 00:39:02,419 to 2770 00:39:02,419 --> 00:39:03,587 meet 2771 00:39:03,587 --> 00:39:04,121 local 2772 00:39:04,121 --> 00:39:04,622 conditions and 2773 00:39:04,622 --> 00:39:05,122 the 2774 00:39:05,122 --> 00:39:05,522 authority 2775 00:39:05,522 --> 00:39:06,156 regarding 2776 00:39:06,156 --> 00:39:06,857 the 2777 00:39:06,857 --> 00:39:07,325 substandard 2778 00:39:07,325 --> 00:39:07,659 building 2779 00:39:07,659 --> 00:39:08,359 for 2780 00:39:08,359 --> 00:39:08,792 214 of the 2781 00:39:08,792 --> 00:39:09,593 local 2782 00:39:09,593 --> 00:39:09,927 government code 2783 00:39:09,927 --> 00:39:10,295 , providing that 2784 00:39:10,295 --> 00:39:10,794 this or 2785 00:39:10,794 --> 00:39:10,903 d in ance shall 2786 00:39:10,903 --> 00:39:11,295 be 2787 00:39:11,295 --> 00:39:11,696 cumulative 2788 00:39:11,696 --> 00:39:11,862 , repealing 2789 00:39:11,862 --> 00:39:12,563 all 2790 00:39:12,563 --> 00:39:12,930 ordinances to the extent that 2791 00:39:12,930 --> 00:39:14,566 they are 2792 00:39:14,566 --> 00:39:14,932 in conflict 2793 00:39:14,932 --> 00:39:16,567 , providing 2794 00:39:16,567 --> 00:39:16,967 for 2795 00:39:16,967 --> 00:39:17,535 severability 2796 00:39:17,535 --> 00:39:17,801 and providing 2797 00:39:17,801 --> 00:39:18,903 an 2798 00:39:18,903 --> 00:39:19,170 effective 2799 00:39:19,170 --> 00:39:19,670 date 2800 00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:21,138 . Looks like 2801 00:39:21,138 --> 00:39:22,506 we have Mr 2802 00:39:22,506 --> 00:39:23,707 . Polanco here 2803 00:39:23,707 --> 00:39:24,740 to 2804 00:39:24,740 --> 00:39:24,375 present 2805 00:39:24,375 --> 00:39:24,708 . Good 2806 00:39:24,708 --> 00:39:25,309 evening 2807 00:39:25,309 --> 00:39:25,676 , Mayor 2808 00:39:25,676 --> 00:39:26,277 council 2809 00:39:26,277 --> 00:39:26,396 , uh, Robert Fluco 2810 00:39:26,396 --> 00:39:26,877 , 2811 00:39:26,877 --> 00:39:27,878 building official 2812 00:39:27,878 --> 00:39:28,780 for 2813 00:39:28,780 --> 00:39:28,512 City 2814 00:39:28,512 --> 00:39:28,913 Flugerville 2815 00:39:28,913 --> 00:39:29,347 , uh, I'm gonna be 2816 00:39:29,347 --> 00:39:30,150 your host for 2817 00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:30,447 the 2818 00:39:30,447 --> 00:39:30,648 next 2819 00:39:30,648 --> 00:39:31,150 4 2820 00:39:31,150 --> 00:39:32,883 items 2821 00:39:32,883 --> 00:39:33,350 , 2822 00:39:33,350 --> 00:39:33,651 uh, before we 2823 00:39:33,651 --> 00:39:34,485 get 2824 00:39:34,485 --> 00:39:34,785 into 2825 00:39:34,785 --> 00:39:35,619 the 2826 00:39:35,619 --> 00:39:36,253 ordinances, specifically 2827 00:39:36,253 --> 00:39:36,954 themselves, I'd like 2828 00:39:36,954 --> 00:39:37,355 to give 2829 00:39:37,355 --> 00:39:37,688 you a 2830 00:39:37,688 --> 00:39:38,156 general 2831 00:39:38,156 --> 00:39:39,190 overview of 2832 00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:39,824 what 2833 00:39:39,824 --> 00:39:40,425 my intent 2834 00:39:40,425 --> 00:39:40,825 was 2835 00:39:40,825 --> 00:39:41,292 for 2836 00:39:41,292 --> 00:39:41,626 one's a 2837 00:39:41,626 --> 00:39:42,393 one's 2838 00:39:42,393 --> 00:39:43,160 a correction of 2839 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:43,961 an oversight 2840 00:39:43,961 --> 00:39:44,462 from 2841 00:39:44,462 --> 00:39:44,929 an adoption 2842 00:39:44,929 --> 00:39:45,496 a couple of 2843 00:39:45,496 --> 00:39:46,364 years ago, but 2844 00:39:46,364 --> 00:39:46,831 the other three 2845 00:39:46,831 --> 00:39:47,131 . 2846 00:39:47,131 --> 00:39:47,865 What 2847 00:39:47,865 --> 00:39:48,633 my 2848 00:39:48,633 --> 00:39:50,301 intent was uh 2849 00:39:50,301 --> 00:39:50,935 upgrading 2850 00:39:50,935 --> 00:39:52,269 these ordinances 2851 00:39:52,269 --> 00:39:52,603 . To 2852 00:39:52,603 --> 00:39:52,770 the 2853 00:39:52,770 --> 00:39:53,103 city 2854 00:39:53,103 --> 00:39:53,405 with a 2855 00:39:53,405 --> 00:39:54,739 clear 2856 00:39:54,739 --> 00:39:55,306 legally 2857 00:39:55,306 --> 00:39:55,940 defensible 2858 00:39:55,940 --> 00:39:57,141 ordinances to address 2859 00:39:57,141 --> 00:39:58,376 nuisances 2860 00:39:58,376 --> 00:39:59,443 unsafe structures 2861 00:39:59,443 --> 00:40:00,110 and 2862 00:40:00,110 --> 00:40:00,678 related 2863 00:40:00,678 --> 00:40:01,846 violations more effectively 2864 00:40:01,846 --> 00:40:02,379 . 2865 00:40:02,379 --> 00:40:03,581 The revisions 2866 00:40:03,581 --> 00:40:03,848 aligned 2867 00:40:03,848 --> 00:40:04,482 local 2868 00:40:04,482 --> 00:40:04,749 regulations with 2869 00:40:04,749 --> 00:40:06,170 state 2870 00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:06,717 statutes 2871 00:40:06,717 --> 00:40:08,419 established 2872 00:40:08,419 --> 00:40:08,920 objective standards 2873 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,187 and create 2874 00:40:09,187 --> 00:40:09,587 consistent 2875 00:40:09,587 --> 00:40:11,880 procedures 2876 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:11,198 for notification 2877 00:40:11,198 --> 00:40:11,923 , 2878 00:40:11,923 --> 00:40:13,923 enforcement, and hearings 2879 00:40:14,859 --> 00:40:15,293 . When 2880 00:40:15,293 --> 00:40:15,893 I started 2881 00:40:15,893 --> 00:40:17,196 I was 2882 00:40:17,196 --> 00:40:17,462 given 2883 00:40:17,462 --> 00:40:17,995 the 2884 00:40:17,995 --> 00:40:18,429 privilege of 2885 00:40:18,429 --> 00:40:20,131 taking over 2886 00:40:20,131 --> 00:40:21,666 the 2887 00:40:21,666 --> 00:40:22,233 uh 2888 00:40:22,233 --> 00:40:22,700 code compliance 2889 00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:24,102 division and uh 2890 00:40:24,102 --> 00:40:24,535 AUGUST 2891 00:40:24,535 --> 00:40:26,337 of last year 2892 00:40:26,337 --> 00:40:26,838 and when I 2893 00:40:26,838 --> 00:40:27,105 started delving 2894 00:40:27,105 --> 00:40:27,338 into 2895 00:40:27,338 --> 00:40:29,140 the 2896 00:40:29,140 --> 00:40:31,420 ordinances themselves, um 2897 00:40:31,420 --> 00:40:31,442 started finding some things 2898 00:40:31,442 --> 00:40:33,244 that were 2899 00:40:33,244 --> 00:40:33,978 not overtly wrong, 2900 00:40:33,978 --> 00:40:34,245 but a little bit concerning, 2901 00:40:34,245 --> 00:40:35,313 and 2902 00:40:35,313 --> 00:40:35,747 some of 2903 00:40:35,747 --> 00:40:35,947 the 2904 00:40:35,947 --> 00:40:36,381 statutory 2905 00:40:36,381 --> 00:40:37,915 construction 2906 00:40:37,915 --> 00:40:39,915 . Was a bit 2907 00:40:39,952 --> 00:40:40,518 I 2908 00:40:40,518 --> 00:40:40,852 wouldn't say lacking 2909 00:40:40,852 --> 00:40:41,185 , but 2910 00:40:41,185 --> 00:40:41,919 needed 2911 00:40:41,919 --> 00:40:42,454 to 2912 00:40:42,454 --> 00:40:42,954 be spruced up a 2913 00:40:42,954 --> 00:40:44,656 little bit 2914 00:40:44,656 --> 00:40:45,290 . Basic statutory 2915 00:40:45,290 --> 00:40:46,357 construction and the way 2916 00:40:46,357 --> 00:40:46,791 that 2917 00:40:46,791 --> 00:40:47,910 thing that 2918 00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:47,625 I've 2919 00:40:47,625 --> 00:40:48,930 structured them 2920 00:40:48,930 --> 00:40:49,930 are basically 2921 00:40:49,930 --> 00:40:49,761 you have 2922 00:40:49,761 --> 00:40:50,462 your 2923 00:40:50,462 --> 00:40:51,262 definitions first 2924 00:40:51,262 --> 00:40:52,330 that define 2925 00:40:52,330 --> 00:40:52,697 the terms to be used 2926 00:40:52,697 --> 00:40:54,298 inside of 2927 00:40:54,298 --> 00:40:54,532 that ordinance. Description 2928 00:40:54,532 --> 00:40:55,133 of 2929 00:40:55,133 --> 00:40:56,834 the offenses 2930 00:40:56,834 --> 00:40:57,735 . The authority 2931 00:40:57,735 --> 00:40:58,102 to 2932 00:40:58,102 --> 00:41:00,102 enforce 2933 00:41:00,238 --> 00:41:00,672 . The 2934 00:41:00,672 --> 00:41:01,506 all-important 2935 00:41:01,506 --> 00:41:02,373 notification procedures 2936 00:41:02,373 --> 00:41:03,441 , means 2937 00:41:03,441 --> 00:41:06,441 of appeal, and then penalties 2938 00:41:06,711 --> 00:41:07,445 . 2939 00:41:07,445 --> 00:41:07,679 Our first one that we're 2940 00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:07,946 coming 2941 00:41:07,946 --> 00:41:09,515 to 2942 00:41:09,515 --> 00:41:11,515 . Let's see 2943 00:41:11,850 --> 00:41:12,150 . So 2944 00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:12,383 this 2945 00:41:12,383 --> 00:41:13,552 is 2946 00:41:13,552 --> 00:41:14,180 the 2947 00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:14,319 creation of the 2948 00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:14,586 substandard or 2949 00:41:14,586 --> 00:41:16,387 of 2950 00:41:16,387 --> 00:41:17,210 the correct building 2951 00:41:17,210 --> 00:41:17,322 Standards Commission. This is 2952 00:41:17,322 --> 00:41:18,230 the 2953 00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:18,256 building 2954 00:41:18,256 --> 00:41:18,923 and 2955 00:41:18,923 --> 00:41:19,324 Standards 2956 00:41:19,324 --> 00:41:21,250 Commission 2957 00:41:21,250 --> 00:41:21,693 . This previously did 2958 00:41:21,693 --> 00:41:22,127 not exist and 2959 00:41:22,127 --> 00:41:22,995 came 2960 00:41:22,995 --> 00:41:23,295 about 2961 00:41:23,295 --> 00:41:23,862 in 2962 00:41:23,862 --> 00:41:24,329 part due 2963 00:41:24,329 --> 00:41:25,797 to 2964 00:41:25,797 --> 00:41:26,331 our 2965 00:41:26,331 --> 00:41:26,664 um dealings 2966 00:41:26,664 --> 00:41:27,399 with a 2967 00:41:27,399 --> 00:41:27,665 home that 2968 00:41:27,665 --> 00:41:28,133 was 2969 00:41:28,133 --> 00:41:28,834 burned 2970 00:41:28,834 --> 00:41:29,768 pretty severely 2971 00:41:29,768 --> 00:41:30,101 . It 2972 00:41:30,101 --> 00:41:30,435 was not 2973 00:41:30,435 --> 00:41:31,200 able to 2974 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:31,803 be restored 2975 00:41:31,803 --> 00:41:32,270 , uh, it 2976 00:41:32,270 --> 00:41:32,971 kind of 2977 00:41:32,971 --> 00:41:34,906 fell into disrepair 2978 00:41:34,906 --> 00:41:35,374 . 2979 00:41:35,374 --> 00:41:36,641 For a good 2 2980 00:41:36,641 --> 00:41:36,975 a little 2981 00:41:36,975 --> 00:41:37,442 bit over 2982 00:41:37,442 --> 00:41:38,443 2 2983 00:41:38,443 --> 00:41:39,177 years. We 2984 00:41:39,177 --> 00:41:39,511 didn't have a 2985 00:41:39,511 --> 00:41:41,246 real 2986 00:41:41,246 --> 00:41:41,579 good mechanism of how to deal 2987 00:41:41,579 --> 00:41:43,579 with it 2988 00:41:43,682 --> 00:41:44,820 . We were 2989 00:41:44,820 --> 00:41:44,616 sending 2990 00:41:44,616 --> 00:41:45,685 notifications to 2991 00:41:45,685 --> 00:41:45,917 the 2992 00:41:45,917 --> 00:41:46,251 homeowner 2993 00:41:46,251 --> 00:41:46,851 under 2994 00:41:46,851 --> 00:41:48,820 various 2995 00:41:48,820 --> 00:41:49,221 ordinances 2996 00:41:49,221 --> 00:41:49,855 , um, 2997 00:41:49,855 --> 00:41:50,522 none of them really 2998 00:41:50,522 --> 00:41:51,189 applied 2999 00:41:51,189 --> 00:41:52,457 really well. We do 3000 00:41:52,457 --> 00:41:52,824 have the 3001 00:41:52,824 --> 00:41:53,225 means in 3002 00:41:53,225 --> 00:41:53,658 the 3003 00:41:53,658 --> 00:41:55,270 international 3004 00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:55,827 property maintenance code and 3005 00:41:55,827 --> 00:41:56,829 the International 3006 00:41:56,829 --> 00:41:57,495 existing 3007 00:41:57,495 --> 00:41:59,495 building code. But 3008 00:42:00,198 --> 00:42:01,366 the venue 3009 00:42:01,366 --> 00:42:02,300 to 3010 00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:04,136 hear the, the case 3011 00:42:04,136 --> 00:42:06,136 was not here 3012 00:42:06,471 --> 00:42:07,380 We've never had a building in 3013 00:42:07,380 --> 00:42:07,372 Standards commission here 3014 00:42:07,372 --> 00:42:08,773 before 3015 00:42:08,773 --> 00:42:09,107 . We 3016 00:42:09,107 --> 00:42:10,342 initially 3017 00:42:10,342 --> 00:42:11,900 notified 3018 00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:11,610 the property owner of the 3019 00:42:11,610 --> 00:42:12,611 offenses. We thought we 3020 00:42:12,611 --> 00:42:13,178 could 3021 00:42:13,178 --> 00:42:13,745 take them 3022 00:42:13,745 --> 00:42:15,280 through our city 3023 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:15,814 municipal court 3024 00:42:15,814 --> 00:42:16,148 , our legal said 3025 00:42:16,148 --> 00:42:17,490 that's 3026 00:42:17,490 --> 00:42:17,382 not the 3027 00:42:17,382 --> 00:42:17,917 proper venue, so 3028 00:42:17,917 --> 00:42:18,350 we had to go to 3029 00:42:18,350 --> 00:42:20,350 district court 3030 00:42:20,485 --> 00:42:21,860 . 3031 00:42:21,860 --> 00:42:21,720 In district court 3032 00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:22,870 , it 3033 00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:24,870 took us 3034 00:42:24,323 --> 00:42:24,990 7 3035 00:42:24,990 --> 00:42:25,924 months to get through 3036 00:42:25,924 --> 00:42:26,491 district 3037 00:42:26,491 --> 00:42:26,601 court. We finally got 3038 00:42:26,601 --> 00:42:26,958 the 3039 00:42:26,958 --> 00:42:28,427 judgment 3040 00:42:28,427 --> 00:42:28,760 . And 3041 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,610 we're looking to 3042 00:42:29,610 --> 00:42:30,897 try 3043 00:42:30,897 --> 00:42:31,296 to avoid going down that 3044 00:42:31,296 --> 00:42:31,663 route if 3045 00:42:31,663 --> 00:42:33,166 possible 3046 00:42:33,166 --> 00:42:33,832 . District 3047 00:42:33,832 --> 00:42:34,232 court will always be available 3048 00:42:34,232 --> 00:42:34,933 in the event 3049 00:42:34,933 --> 00:42:35,334 of 3050 00:42:35,334 --> 00:42:35,841 an appeal 3051 00:42:35,841 --> 00:42:36,335 , but 3052 00:42:36,335 --> 00:42:37,336 we'd like to handle it 3053 00:42:37,336 --> 00:42:37,770 at the 3054 00:42:37,770 --> 00:42:38,137 local 3055 00:42:38,137 --> 00:42:38,503 level first 3056 00:42:38,503 --> 00:42:39,438 . So 3057 00:42:39,438 --> 00:42:39,806 the 3058 00:42:39,806 --> 00:42:40,172 building 3059 00:42:40,172 --> 00:42:40,672 and Standards 3060 00:42:40,672 --> 00:42:41,707 Commission will 3061 00:42:41,707 --> 00:42:41,907 provide 3062 00:42:41,907 --> 00:42:42,808 a 3063 00:42:42,808 --> 00:42:44,309 structured impartial venue to 3064 00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:44,576 hear evidence 3065 00:42:44,576 --> 00:42:44,943 , make 3066 00:42:44,943 --> 00:42:45,244 findings of 3067 00:42:45,244 --> 00:42:46,678 fact 3068 00:42:46,678 --> 00:42:47,212 . And 3069 00:42:47,212 --> 00:42:48,680 issue orders related 3070 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:49,215 to 3071 00:42:49,215 --> 00:42:49,323 substandard buildings 3072 00:42:49,323 --> 00:42:49,882 , 3073 00:42:49,882 --> 00:42:51,183 reducing the need for 3074 00:42:51,183 --> 00:42:51,783 immediate 3075 00:42:51,783 --> 00:42:52,850 escalation to that district 3076 00:42:52,850 --> 00:42:53,552 court 3077 00:42:53,552 --> 00:42:55,487 . The 3078 00:42:55,487 --> 00:42:56,255 commission processes 3079 00:42:56,255 --> 00:42:58,230 insurers, property owners 3080 00:42:58,230 --> 00:42:58,557 receive proper notice 3081 00:42:58,557 --> 00:42:59,910 . The 3082 00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:00,192 opportunity to 3083 00:43:00,192 --> 00:43:00,960 be heard 3084 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,460 . And 3085 00:43:01,460 --> 00:43:02,600 clear timelines 3086 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:02,494 for 3087 00:43:02,494 --> 00:43:03,280 compliance, 3088 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,280 repairs, or appeals 3089 00:43:05,230 --> 00:43:05,898 . 3090 00:43:05,898 --> 00:43:06,432 Strengthening fairness in legal 3091 00:43:06,432 --> 00:43:07,533 defense stability 3092 00:43:07,533 --> 00:43:08,133 . The 3093 00:43:08,133 --> 00:43:09,680 commission hearings 3094 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:09,935 are 3095 00:43:09,935 --> 00:43:11,537 typically faster and more 3096 00:43:11,537 --> 00:43:11,904 efficient. Hopefully the 3097 00:43:11,904 --> 00:43:13,772 district 3098 00:43:13,772 --> 00:43:14,140 court 3099 00:43:14,140 --> 00:43:14,807 litigation 3100 00:43:14,807 --> 00:43:15,374 allowing dangerous conditions 3101 00:43:15,374 --> 00:43:15,774 to be addressed in 3102 00:43:15,774 --> 00:43:16,141 a 3103 00:43:16,141 --> 00:43:16,575 more 3104 00:43:16,575 --> 00:43:18,575 timely manner 3105 00:43:18,610 --> 00:43:19,278 . Handling cases 3106 00:43:19,278 --> 00:43:20,546 locally 3107 00:43:20,546 --> 00:43:20,913 minimizes reliance on 3108 00:43:20,913 --> 00:43:21,313 outside 3109 00:43:21,313 --> 00:43:21,680 legal proceedings, 3110 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,182 lowering 3111 00:43:23,182 --> 00:43:23,582 costs for the city 3112 00:43:23,582 --> 00:43:23,882 while still 3113 00:43:23,882 --> 00:43:24,216 preserving the 3114 00:43:24,216 --> 00:43:24,717 right 3115 00:43:24,717 --> 00:43:25,350 to 3116 00:43:25,350 --> 00:43:25,652 do 3117 00:43:25,652 --> 00:43:26,510 to 3118 00:43:26,510 --> 00:43:27,152 judicial 3119 00:43:27,152 --> 00:43:27,586 appeal 3120 00:43:27,586 --> 00:43:28,187 when necessary 3121 00:43:28,187 --> 00:43:29,455 . The 3122 00:43:29,455 --> 00:43:29,989 commission 3123 00:43:29,989 --> 00:43:31,989 can order repair 3124 00:43:31,991 --> 00:43:32,324 securing 3125 00:43:32,324 --> 00:43:32,658 , 3126 00:43:32,658 --> 00:43:34,594 vacation 3127 00:43:34,594 --> 00:43:34,927 or demolition based on 3128 00:43:34,927 --> 00:43:36,862 the 3129 00:43:36,862 --> 00:43:37,263 specific circumstances of 3130 00:43:37,263 --> 00:43:38,831 the case 3131 00:43:38,831 --> 00:43:39,431 . Allowing solutions 3132 00:43:39,431 --> 00:43:40,666 that are proportionate 3133 00:43:40,666 --> 00:43:41,400 and 3134 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:41,767 tailored rather than a one size 3135 00:43:41,767 --> 00:43:43,436 fits all 3136 00:43:43,436 --> 00:43:44,303 . Uh 3137 00:43:44,303 --> 00:43:45,371 , formal commission 3138 00:43:45,371 --> 00:43:46,105 process demonstrates the 3139 00:43:46,105 --> 00:43:48,105 enforcement actions or 3140 00:43:48,140 --> 00:43:48,574 evidence-based, deliberate, and 3141 00:43:48,574 --> 00:43:49,475 reviewed by 3142 00:43:49,475 --> 00:43:50,420 an 3143 00:43:50,420 --> 00:43:50,943 independent body 3144 00:43:50,943 --> 00:43:52,780 hopefully improving public 3145 00:43:52,780 --> 00:43:52,878 trust 3146 00:43:52,878 --> 00:43:53,479 and compliance. You're 3147 00:43:53,479 --> 00:43:54,580 gonna make sure you 3148 00:43:54,580 --> 00:43:54,980 get these 3149 00:43:54,980 --> 00:43:55,481 right 3150 00:43:55,481 --> 00:43:56,180 , especially when you're 3151 00:43:56,180 --> 00:43:56,349 talking 3152 00:43:56,349 --> 00:43:56,850 about 3153 00:43:56,850 --> 00:43:57,817 personal property 3154 00:43:57,817 --> 00:43:58,617 You don't want to end up in 3155 00:43:58,617 --> 00:43:59,518 a 3156 00:43:59,518 --> 00:43:59,753 takings claim, so you 3157 00:43:59,753 --> 00:44:00,386 wanna 3158 00:44:00,386 --> 00:44:01,530 make sure it goes to 3159 00:44:01,530 --> 00:44:01,387 the 3160 00:44:01,387 --> 00:44:02,880 right 3161 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,156 process, and that is 3162 00:44:03,156 --> 00:44:03,789 the 3163 00:44:03,789 --> 00:44:04,223 purpose 3164 00:44:04,223 --> 00:44:04,490 of creating 3165 00:44:04,490 --> 00:44:05,580 this 3166 00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:05,592 article 3167 00:44:05,592 --> 00:44:06,125 for under 3168 00:44:06,125 --> 00:44:06,425 Chapter 92 3169 00:44:06,425 --> 00:44:07,927 of 3170 00:44:07,927 --> 00:44:08,461 our ordinances 3171 00:44:08,461 --> 00:44:08,795 . Happy day in 3172 00:44:08,795 --> 00:44:09,729 there 3173 00:44:09,729 --> 00:44:10,262 . Any 3174 00:44:10,262 --> 00:44:10,963 questions on this 3175 00:44:10,963 --> 00:44:11,898 particular one? This is 3176 00:44:11,898 --> 00:44:12,498 , this 3177 00:44:12,498 --> 00:44:12,798 one's a little bit of a two 3178 00:44:12,798 --> 00:44:14,768 part 3179 00:44:14,768 --> 00:44:15,201 . But 3180 00:44:15,201 --> 00:44:15,601 this is the first 3181 00:44:15,601 --> 00:44:15,968 part of it 3182 00:44:15,968 --> 00:44:17,336 , Article 4 3183 00:44:17,336 --> 00:44:17,450 . Yeah 3184 00:44:17,450 --> 00:44:17,737 , I 3185 00:44:17,737 --> 00:44:18,938 have 3186 00:44:18,938 --> 00:44:19,272 , I 3187 00:44:19,272 --> 00:44:19,572 have 3188 00:44:19,572 --> 00:44:19,772 several 3189 00:44:19,772 --> 00:44:20,106 questions 3190 00:44:20,106 --> 00:44:21,574 about 3191 00:44:21,574 --> 00:44:22,800 this 3192 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,800 . The 3193 00:44:24,430 --> 00:44:24,577 there are a 3194 00:44:24,577 --> 00:44:25,678 number of areas 3195 00:44:25,678 --> 00:44:25,978 where this 3196 00:44:25,978 --> 00:44:26,412 seems 3197 00:44:26,412 --> 00:44:27,947 to 3198 00:44:27,947 --> 00:44:28,247 be different from some 3199 00:44:28,247 --> 00:44:28,581 of the 3200 00:44:28,581 --> 00:44:28,981 other 3201 00:44:28,981 --> 00:44:30,283 city boards 3202 00:44:30,283 --> 00:44:30,851 and 3203 00:44:30,851 --> 00:44:31,418 commissions, and I'm 3204 00:44:31,418 --> 00:44:32,852 uh 3205 00:44:32,852 --> 00:44:34,852 uh 3206 00:44:35,221 --> 00:44:35,822 some 3207 00:44:35,822 --> 00:44:37,323 of these 3208 00:44:37,323 --> 00:44:37,590 are better, some 3209 00:44:37,590 --> 00:44:37,990 of 3210 00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:39,859 these are 3211 00:44:39,859 --> 00:44:41,859 . Arguably 3212 00:44:41,994 --> 00:44:42,528 , uh, but 3213 00:44:42,528 --> 00:44:43,663 they're, they're 3214 00:44:43,663 --> 00:44:44,300 not 3215 00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:44,831 uniform in 3216 00:44:44,831 --> 00:44:46,766 the sense that they're not like 3217 00:44:46,766 --> 00:44:47,800 other boards and commissions 3218 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,535 . 3219 00:44:48,535 --> 00:44:48,935 For instance, at 3220 00:44:48,935 --> 00:44:49,480 the at 3221 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:49,602 the 3222 00:44:49,602 --> 00:44:50,503 beginning when you 3223 00:44:50,503 --> 00:44:51,470 talk about 3224 00:44:51,470 --> 00:44:51,738 the compositional terms, you've 3225 00:44:51,738 --> 00:44:53,206 got 3226 00:44:53,206 --> 00:44:53,673 staggered members, we've 3227 00:44:53,673 --> 00:44:55,241 got alternate 3228 00:44:55,241 --> 00:44:55,708 . Um, those things 3229 00:44:55,708 --> 00:44:57,708 are, are not 3230 00:44:57,710 --> 00:44:58,578 uh we don't have 3231 00:44:58,578 --> 00:44:59,779 alternates on all of the boards 3232 00:44:59,779 --> 00:45:00,120 and missions, but we have on, 3233 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,546 on 3234 00:45:00,546 --> 00:45:02,150 a number of them 3235 00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:02,248 . Um 3236 00:45:02,248 --> 00:45:02,616 , that 3237 00:45:02,616 --> 00:45:04,616 seems, uh 3238 00:45:04,617 --> 00:45:04,918 , within the realm of 3239 00:45:04,918 --> 00:45:06,586 the 3240 00:45:06,586 --> 00:45:07,387 things that we do. But 3241 00:45:07,387 --> 00:45:08,621 there's a, there's a thing at 3242 00:45:08,621 --> 00:45:10,957 the end of the 3243 00:45:10,957 --> 00:45:11,891 second paragraph 3244 00:45:11,891 --> 00:45:12,993 92.16. The 3245 00:45:12,993 --> 00:45:13,259 city 3246 00:45:13,259 --> 00:45:13,593 council MAY 3247 00:45:13,593 --> 00:45:13,893 remove a 3248 00:45:13,893 --> 00:45:15,950 member 3249 00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:15,228 for cause 3250 00:45:15,228 --> 00:45:16,162 set 3251 00:45:16,162 --> 00:45:16,529 out in a written charge and as 3252 00:45:16,529 --> 00:45:17,497 determined 3253 00:45:17,497 --> 00:45:17,764 by the 3254 00:45:17,764 --> 00:45:17,998 city 3255 00:45:17,998 --> 00:45:18,464 council 3256 00:45:18,464 --> 00:45:18,831 after a public 3257 00:45:18,831 --> 00:45:20,660 hearing if 3258 00:45:20,660 --> 00:45:20,533 requested by the 3259 00:45:20,533 --> 00:45:20,867 member on the 3260 00:45:20,867 --> 00:45:22,867 charge 3261 00:45:22,869 --> 00:45:24,271 . I'm 3262 00:45:24,271 --> 00:45:25,710 not 3263 00:45:25,710 --> 00:45:25,438 aware of any 3264 00:45:25,438 --> 00:45:26,673 other 3265 00:45:26,673 --> 00:45:26,807 uh city board 3266 00:45:26,807 --> 00:45:27,307 or 3267 00:45:27,307 --> 00:45:28,809 commission that 3268 00:45:28,809 --> 00:45:29,175 has language 3269 00:45:29,175 --> 00:45:29,609 like that 3270 00:45:29,609 --> 00:45:31,177 . Uh 3271 00:45:31,177 --> 00:45:31,945 , are you aware of 3272 00:45:31,945 --> 00:45:33,746 any other 3273 00:45:33,746 --> 00:45:34,481 , uh, flugerville City 3274 00:45:34,481 --> 00:45:35,982 boards are commissioned that 3275 00:45:35,982 --> 00:45:36,483 have similar language. I not, 3276 00:45:36,483 --> 00:45:37,617 sir. Would 3277 00:45:37,617 --> 00:45:37,984 you 3278 00:45:37,984 --> 00:45:38,418 recommend that 3279 00:45:38,418 --> 00:45:39,180 we adopt 3280 00:45:39,180 --> 00:45:40,854 language like that and 3281 00:45:40,854 --> 00:45:41,454 the other uh uh for our other 3282 00:45:41,454 --> 00:45:42,589 boards and commission 3283 00:45:42,589 --> 00:45:42,789 . That's 3284 00:45:42,789 --> 00:45:43,423 a 3285 00:45:43,423 --> 00:45:44,225 policy question and 3286 00:45:44,225 --> 00:45:44,525 I 3287 00:45:44,525 --> 00:45:44,791 say 3288 00:45:44,791 --> 00:45:44,925 yes 3289 00:45:44,925 --> 00:45:45,525 . 3290 00:45:45,525 --> 00:45:46,760 Yeah, that's, I mean 3291 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,260 , that's, 3292 00:45:47,260 --> 00:45:47,595 yeah 3293 00:45:47,595 --> 00:45:47,927 , that, you know 3294 00:45:47,927 --> 00:45:48,294 , should we 3295 00:45:48,294 --> 00:45:49,329 do that 3296 00:45:49,329 --> 00:45:49,596 ? I'm 3297 00:45:49,596 --> 00:45:49,896 , I'm 3298 00:45:49,896 --> 00:45:51,498 asking 3299 00:45:51,498 --> 00:45:52,298 the 3300 00:45:52,298 --> 00:45:52,699 witness, do you think that that 3301 00:45:52,699 --> 00:45:53,333 would be 3302 00:45:53,333 --> 00:45:53,867 a 3303 00:45:53,867 --> 00:45:54,535 good policy decision 3304 00:45:54,535 --> 00:45:55,802 I think that's above my 3305 00:45:55,802 --> 00:45:56,302 pay 3306 00:45:56,302 --> 00:45:57,700 grade, I 3307 00:45:57,700 --> 00:45:58,705 would agree 3308 00:45:58,705 --> 00:45:59,500 . Um, on 3309 00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:00,740 the 3310 00:46:00,740 --> 00:46:01,700 , uh, so then, what is 3311 00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:01,475 the 3312 00:46:01,475 --> 00:46:02,609 reason to 3313 00:46:02,609 --> 00:46:02,943 have 3314 00:46:02,943 --> 00:46:03,176 this 3315 00:46:03,176 --> 00:46:03,543 language 3316 00:46:03,543 --> 00:46:03,943 here, that 3317 00:46:03,943 --> 00:46:05,145 if it's not 3318 00:46:05,145 --> 00:46:05,512 , if it, 3319 00:46:05,512 --> 00:46:05,946 like who 3320 00:46:05,946 --> 00:46:06,813 drafted this 3321 00:46:06,813 --> 00:46:07,247 up and 3322 00:46:07,247 --> 00:46:08,150 and it was 3323 00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:08,381 it considered I'm 3324 00:46:08,381 --> 00:46:09,249 guessing 3325 00:46:09,249 --> 00:46:09,649 what 3326 00:46:09,649 --> 00:46:09,983 somebody 3327 00:46:09,983 --> 00:46:10,317 drafted 3328 00:46:10,317 --> 00:46:10,750 this 3329 00:46:10,750 --> 00:46:11,585 is what 3330 00:46:11,585 --> 00:46:12,850 best 3331 00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:12,319 practices 3332 00:46:12,319 --> 00:46:12,919 are 3333 00:46:12,919 --> 00:46:14,200 and they 3334 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:14,521 haven't gone back and 3335 00:46:14,521 --> 00:46:15,880 looked at all 3336 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:15,589 the other boards 3337 00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:16,389 and commissions 3338 00:46:16,389 --> 00:46:16,957 , so 3339 00:46:16,957 --> 00:46:17,425 consequently, what you 3340 00:46:17,425 --> 00:46:18,491 got is 3341 00:46:18,491 --> 00:46:19,250 what 3342 00:46:19,250 --> 00:46:19,826 would, am I 3343 00:46:19,826 --> 00:46:20,527 correct 3344 00:46:20,527 --> 00:46:20,760 Well 3345 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:21,147 , 3346 00:46:21,147 --> 00:46:21,828 the 3347 00:46:21,828 --> 00:46:22,395 , the language I'm sorry, I 3348 00:46:22,395 --> 00:46:23,196 couldn't 3349 00:46:23,196 --> 00:46:23,496 hear. Right 3350 00:46:23,496 --> 00:46:23,930 , we 3351 00:46:23,930 --> 00:46:24,197 didn't 3352 00:46:24,197 --> 00:46:25,131 go 3353 00:46:25,131 --> 00:46:25,499 test it to the other ones 3354 00:46:25,499 --> 00:46:26,199 . 3355 00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:26,867 We're happy to do so. Well, 3356 00:46:26,867 --> 00:46:27,435 where, where did 3357 00:46:27,435 --> 00:46:27,934 the language 3358 00:46:27,934 --> 00:46:28,368 come 3359 00:46:28,368 --> 00:46:30,203 from 3360 00:46:30,203 --> 00:46:30,770 ? Former 3361 00:46:30,770 --> 00:46:32,472 Attorney 3362 00:46:32,472 --> 00:46:32,580 Attorney. I don't know 3363 00:46:32,580 --> 00:46:32,973 . We 3364 00:46:32,973 --> 00:46:34,107 didn't add 3365 00:46:34,107 --> 00:46:34,608 to this the other 3366 00:46:34,608 --> 00:46:35,208 items, yeah 3367 00:46:35,208 --> 00:46:36,943 , that's what I 3368 00:46:36,943 --> 00:46:37,770 . Um 3369 00:46:37,770 --> 00:46:37,578 , 3370 00:46:37,578 --> 00:46:38,979 that makes sense 3371 00:46:38,979 --> 00:46:39,580 . And the, the 3372 00:46:39,580 --> 00:46:41,348 next section 3373 00:46:41,348 --> 00:46:42,883 , uh, you've got 3374 00:46:42,883 --> 00:46:43,250 , 3375 00:46:43,250 --> 00:46:43,717 uh, uh, a 3376 00:46:43,717 --> 00:46:44,217 quorum 3377 00:46:44,217 --> 00:46:45,452 requirement of 3378 00:46:45,452 --> 00:46:45,752 a 3379 00:46:45,752 --> 00:46:46,190 minimum 3380 00:46:46,190 --> 00:46:46,286 of 3381 00:46:46,286 --> 00:46:47,921 4 3382 00:46:47,921 --> 00:46:48,300 , rather than 3383 00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:48,488 , 3384 00:46:48,488 --> 00:46:48,756 than a than 3385 00:46:48,756 --> 00:46:49,256 a 3386 00:46:49,256 --> 00:46:49,856 majority 3387 00:46:49,856 --> 00:46:50,157 . Again, 3388 00:46:50,157 --> 00:46:50,958 I'm 3389 00:46:50,958 --> 00:46:52,559 I'm not aware of 3390 00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:52,859 any other 3391 00:46:52,859 --> 00:46:54,270 board 3392 00:46:54,270 --> 00:46:54,461 or commission in 3393 00:46:54,461 --> 00:46:54,961 the city 3394 00:46:54,961 --> 00:46:56,290 that has a 3395 00:46:56,290 --> 00:46:56,763 , a 3396 00:46:56,763 --> 00:46:57,265 requirement 3397 00:46:57,265 --> 00:46:57,564 that 3398 00:46:57,564 --> 00:46:59,466 high 3399 00:46:59,466 --> 00:47:00,167 . What's going on there 3400 00:47:00,167 --> 00:47:01,635 Pretty important 3401 00:47:01,635 --> 00:47:01,835 You 3402 00:47:01,835 --> 00:47:02,135 want to 3403 00:47:02,135 --> 00:47:03,503 hear 3404 00:47:03,503 --> 00:47:03,737 , you want to have 3405 00:47:03,737 --> 00:47:03,905 the 3406 00:47:03,905 --> 00:47:04,505 most 3407 00:47:04,505 --> 00:47:06,139 people there to hear 3408 00:47:06,139 --> 00:47:06,773 this thing 3409 00:47:06,773 --> 00:47:07,708 because you're dealing 3410 00:47:07,708 --> 00:47:08,442 with 3411 00:47:08,442 --> 00:47:08,775 private property. This 3412 00:47:08,775 --> 00:47:09,209 is 3413 00:47:09,209 --> 00:47:09,943 potentially 3414 00:47:09,943 --> 00:47:10,845 a 3415 00:47:10,845 --> 00:47:11,145 takings claim 3416 00:47:11,145 --> 00:47:11,611 . So 3417 00:47:11,611 --> 00:47:12,679 representation 3418 00:47:12,679 --> 00:47:12,946 is pretty we 3419 00:47:12,946 --> 00:47:13,213 want 3420 00:47:13,213 --> 00:47:13,780 to 3421 00:47:13,780 --> 00:47:15,116 avoid takings claim 3422 00:47:15,116 --> 00:47:15,749 . 3423 00:47:15,749 --> 00:47:17,584 But even the Board of 3424 00:47:17,584 --> 00:47:18,510 Adjustment, which is the only 3425 00:47:18,510 --> 00:47:19,190 thing that can 3426 00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:19,820 overrule the 3427 00:47:19,820 --> 00:47:20,421 city council. It doesn't have 3428 00:47:20,421 --> 00:47:21,822 an 80% 3429 00:47:21,822 --> 00:47:22,656 . Uh 3430 00:47:22,656 --> 00:47:24,591 foreign requirement 3431 00:47:24,591 --> 00:47:25,660 I don't think it 3432 00:47:25,660 --> 00:47:26,600 has 3433 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:26,260 an 80% 3434 00:47:26,260 --> 00:47:26,728 . 3435 00:47:26,728 --> 00:47:27,895 Has close to 3436 00:47:27,895 --> 00:47:28,161 an 3437 00:47:28,161 --> 00:47:30,161 80% 3438 00:47:30,731 --> 00:47:30,998 vacancy 3439 00:47:30,998 --> 00:47:32,934 rate 3440 00:47:32,934 --> 00:47:33,200 . There is sometimes 3441 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:33,600 that 3442 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,735 problem 3443 00:47:34,735 --> 00:47:35,269 , but so 3444 00:47:35,269 --> 00:47:36,300 that means it 3445 00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:37,137 could quorum 3446 00:47:37,137 --> 00:47:37,938 requirement that's 3447 00:47:37,938 --> 00:47:38,539 out of line with with all of 3448 00:47:38,539 --> 00:47:39,474 our other boards 3449 00:47:39,474 --> 00:47:39,907 and 3450 00:47:39,907 --> 00:47:41,375 commissions 3451 00:47:41,375 --> 00:47:41,742 . This 3452 00:47:41,742 --> 00:47:42,443 does seem 3453 00:47:42,443 --> 00:47:44,245 like something that would I'm 3454 00:47:44,245 --> 00:47:44,611 not sure necessitate a 3455 00:47:44,611 --> 00:47:45,450 higher 3456 00:47:45,450 --> 00:47:46,380 threshold 3457 00:47:46,380 --> 00:47:46,780 . Don't, I'm not sure 3458 00:47:46,780 --> 00:47:48,349 the other 3459 00:47:48,349 --> 00:47:48,782 boards have 3460 00:47:48,782 --> 00:47:49,650 the 3461 00:47:49,650 --> 00:47:51,451 ability to 3462 00:47:51,451 --> 00:47:51,619 remove 3463 00:47:51,619 --> 00:47:52,860 private 3464 00:47:52,860 --> 00:47:52,586 property from 3465 00:47:52,586 --> 00:47:53,253 an individual 3466 00:47:53,253 --> 00:47:55,220 either. Requirement 3467 00:47:55,220 --> 00:47:55,489 Typically, 3468 00:47:55,489 --> 00:47:55,923 the Board of 3469 00:47:55,923 --> 00:47:57,558 Adjustment was 3470 00:47:57,558 --> 00:47:57,791 just to settle 3471 00:47:57,791 --> 00:47:58,192 an 3472 00:47:58,192 --> 00:47:59,393 appeal to 3473 00:47:59,393 --> 00:48:00,600 a 3474 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:01,929 decision made by 3475 00:48:01,929 --> 00:48:02,429 an official, 3476 00:48:02,429 --> 00:48:02,730 but not to 3477 00:48:02,730 --> 00:48:03,130 take 3478 00:48:03,130 --> 00:48:03,431 something from 3479 00:48:03,431 --> 00:48:05,650 you 3480 00:48:05,650 --> 00:48:06,433 . Apparent apparently 3481 00:48:06,433 --> 00:48:07,101 the 3482 00:48:07,101 --> 00:48:07,301 corparment's the same as 3483 00:48:07,301 --> 00:48:07,568 the 3484 00:48:07,568 --> 00:48:08,536 boa 3485 00:48:08,536 --> 00:48:09,704 . Oh, is it 3486 00:48:09,704 --> 00:48:10,738 , is it? I'm 3487 00:48:10,738 --> 00:48:11,710 told 3488 00:48:11,710 --> 00:48:11,405 it's 3489 00:48:11,405 --> 00:48:13,730 statutory 3490 00:48:13,730 --> 00:48:13,375 , 75% 3491 00:48:13,375 --> 00:48:13,541 . The 3492 00:48:13,541 --> 00:48:13,975 zba 3493 00:48:13,975 --> 00:48:15,342 board is 3494 00:48:15,342 --> 00:48:15,743 , yeah 3495 00:48:15,743 --> 00:48:15,910 , I'm not 3496 00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:16,477 , I'm 3497 00:48:16,477 --> 00:48:16,745 not sure about 3498 00:48:16,745 --> 00:48:18,212 this 3499 00:48:18,212 --> 00:48:18,479 one 3500 00:48:18,479 --> 00:48:18,779 . So 3501 00:48:18,779 --> 00:48:19,460 both 3502 00:48:19,460 --> 00:48:20,715 of 3503 00:48:20,715 --> 00:48:21,215 our 3504 00:48:21,215 --> 00:48:21,549 quasi-judicial 3505 00:48:21,549 --> 00:48:22,183 boards 3506 00:48:22,183 --> 00:48:23,170 that have 3507 00:48:23,170 --> 00:48:23,817 the same 3508 00:48:23,817 --> 00:48:24,752 structure sense 3509 00:48:24,752 --> 00:48:25,319 makes sense 3510 00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:25,586 yeah makes sense 3511 00:48:25,586 --> 00:48:26,253 makes sense 3512 00:48:26,253 --> 00:48:27,621 yeah. There's also a 3513 00:48:27,621 --> 00:48:28,723 that 3514 00:48:28,723 --> 00:48:29,390 I'm 3515 00:48:29,390 --> 00:48:31,525 getting told by myself 3516 00:48:31,525 --> 00:48:31,826 . There's 3517 00:48:31,826 --> 00:48:33,361 a, a 3518 00:48:33,361 --> 00:48:33,961 a 3519 00:48:33,961 --> 00:48:34,950 bit down here at 3520 00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:34,395 the 3521 00:48:34,395 --> 00:48:35,730 this 3522 00:48:35,730 --> 00:48:36,397 last 3523 00:48:36,397 --> 00:48:36,765 section 3524 00:48:36,765 --> 00:48:37,980 about uh the 3525 00:48:37,980 --> 00:48:38,532 the uh 3526 00:48:38,532 --> 00:48:38,933 the 3527 00:48:38,933 --> 00:48:40,368 proceedings 3528 00:48:40,368 --> 00:48:40,473 have 3529 00:48:40,473 --> 00:48:40,901 to 3530 00:48:40,901 --> 00:48:41,402 reflect the 3531 00:48:41,402 --> 00:48:42,303 member's vote. Ok 3532 00:48:42,303 --> 00:48:42,737 , 3533 00:48:42,737 --> 00:48:43,137 that's fine 3534 00:48:43,137 --> 00:48:44,706 . Failure 3535 00:48:44,706 --> 00:48:45,730 , uh, 3536 00:48:45,730 --> 00:48:45,506 absence 3537 00:48:45,506 --> 00:48:47,410 , that's fine 3538 00:48:47,410 --> 00:48:47,808 . Failure 3539 00:48:47,808 --> 00:48:48,175 to vote on each question, but 3540 00:48:48,175 --> 00:48:49,810 we don't 3541 00:48:49,810 --> 00:48:50,450 have a 3542 00:48:50,450 --> 00:48:50,411 why 3543 00:48:50,411 --> 00:48:51,779 would 3544 00:48:51,779 --> 00:48:52,213 somebody fail to vote 3545 00:48:52,213 --> 00:48:54,213 ? Normally 3546 00:48:55,116 --> 00:48:55,383 the the 3547 00:48:55,383 --> 00:48:56,785 the 3548 00:48:56,785 --> 00:48:57,840 uh the 3549 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:57,685 failure to 3550 00:48:57,685 --> 00:48:58,185 vote on boards and 3551 00:48:58,185 --> 00:48:58,886 commissions 3552 00:48:58,886 --> 00:48:59,120 that's just if you're 3553 00:48:59,120 --> 00:48:59,353 if 3554 00:48:59,353 --> 00:48:59,687 you're 3555 00:48:59,687 --> 00:49:00,822 recused 3556 00:49:00,822 --> 00:49:01,122 under 3557 00:49:01,122 --> 00:49:01,889 the 3558 00:49:01,889 --> 00:49:01,998 city relic 3559 00:49:01,998 --> 00:49:02,256 or 3560 00:49:02,256 --> 00:49:03,191 if 3561 00:49:03,191 --> 00:49:03,658 you're absent 3562 00:49:03,658 --> 00:49:03,991 . Right, but if 3563 00:49:03,991 --> 00:49:04,892 you're 3564 00:49:04,892 --> 00:49:05,327 , if 3565 00:49:05,327 --> 00:49:05,693 you're there, you 3566 00:49:05,693 --> 00:49:06,127 have to 3567 00:49:06,127 --> 00:49:07,328 vote unless 3568 00:49:07,328 --> 00:49:07,595 you've got 3569 00:49:07,595 --> 00:49:08,629 a 3570 00:49:08,629 --> 00:49:09,697 uh, uh, a 3571 00:49:09,697 --> 00:49:10,398 , uh 3572 00:49:10,398 --> 00:49:12,660 uh 3573 00:49:12,660 --> 00:49:12,767 conflict a 3574 00:49:12,767 --> 00:49:14,569 conflict of interest, a 3575 00:49:14,569 --> 00:49:15,200 material conflict of interest, 3576 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,305 not just a 3577 00:49:16,305 --> 00:49:16,838 not 3578 00:49:16,838 --> 00:49:17,772 typically taking 3579 00:49:17,772 --> 00:49:19,407 an abstention vote, I guess 3580 00:49:19,407 --> 00:49:20,108 , 3581 00:49:20,108 --> 00:49:21,276 right? Additionally that 3582 00:49:21,276 --> 00:49:23,770 wouldn't be allowed. Um 3583 00:49:23,770 --> 00:49:23,478 , um, 3584 00:49:23,478 --> 00:49:25,478 but again 3585 00:49:25,646 --> 00:49:26,215 , not like what we 3586 00:49:26,215 --> 00:49:26,581 have on the, on the 3587 00:49:26,581 --> 00:49:27,482 other ones 3588 00:49:27,482 --> 00:49:27,849 . 3589 00:49:27,849 --> 00:49:28,282 Uh, and 3590 00:49:28,282 --> 00:49:28,783 I'm 3591 00:49:28,783 --> 00:49:29,584 wondering because 3592 00:49:29,584 --> 00:49:30,419 , 3593 00:49:30,419 --> 00:49:30,852 you know, it does have, as you 3594 00:49:30,852 --> 00:49:32,487 point out 3595 00:49:32,487 --> 00:49:33,187 , uh, the 3596 00:49:33,187 --> 00:49:33,488 ability to 3597 00:49:33,488 --> 00:49:34,656 affect 3598 00:49:34,656 --> 00:49:35,560 people's property rights 3599 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:35,557 ? Do we 3600 00:49:35,557 --> 00:49:36,691 need to 3601 00:49:36,691 --> 00:49:38,691 , um 3602 00:49:39,260 --> 00:49:39,828 uh limit 3603 00:49:39,828 --> 00:49:40,361 , 3604 00:49:40,361 --> 00:49:41,396 uh, membership on 3605 00:49:41,396 --> 00:49:41,896 , on this. Do 3606 00:49:41,896 --> 00:49:42,430 we need to say 3607 00:49:42,430 --> 00:49:43,464 only 3608 00:49:43,464 --> 00:49:44,132 lawyers can 3609 00:49:44,132 --> 00:49:45,600 serve on this committee 3610 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:45,776 . Um 3611 00:49:45,776 --> 00:49:46,235 , 3612 00:49:46,235 --> 00:49:48,200 you know, uh 3613 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:48,236 , Now 3614 00:49:48,236 --> 00:49:48,436 , of 3615 00:49:48,436 --> 00:49:48,903 course, 3616 00:49:48,903 --> 00:49:50,338 you know, a 3617 00:49:50,338 --> 00:49:50,505 , a justice of 3618 00:49:50,505 --> 00:49:50,872 peace 3619 00:49:50,872 --> 00:49:51,105 or, or 3620 00:49:51,105 --> 00:49:52,540 , or 3621 00:49:52,540 --> 00:49:53,308 a municipal judge 3622 00:49:53,308 --> 00:49:54,342 doesn't have to be a lawyer 3623 00:49:54,342 --> 00:49:54,876 , 3624 00:49:54,876 --> 00:49:55,276 but all they can 3625 00:49:55,276 --> 00:49:55,543 do is, you 3626 00:49:55,543 --> 00:49:57,111 know 3627 00:49:57,111 --> 00:49:57,545 , classy misdemeanors. They 3628 00:49:57,545 --> 00:49:57,846 what they 3629 00:49:57,846 --> 00:49:58,146 can't 3630 00:49:58,146 --> 00:49:59,347 do 3631 00:49:59,347 --> 00:49:59,814 is 3632 00:49:59,814 --> 00:50:00,182 , you know 3633 00:50:00,182 --> 00:50:00,648 affect 3634 00:50:00,648 --> 00:50:01,150 the title to your 3635 00:50:01,150 --> 00:50:02,283 property 3636 00:50:02,283 --> 00:50:02,617 . Uh 3637 00:50:02,617 --> 00:50:03,818 , or, you 3638 00:50:03,818 --> 00:50:03,924 know 3639 00:50:03,924 --> 00:50:04,320 , 3640 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:04,752 potentially 3641 00:50:04,752 --> 00:50:05,854 . You 3642 00:50:05,854 --> 00:50:06,121 know 3643 00:50:06,121 --> 00:50:06,721 , shut 3644 00:50:06,721 --> 00:50:08,356 down your property 3645 00:50:08,356 --> 00:50:09,391 or demolish 3646 00:50:09,391 --> 00:50:10,358 your property. That's a, that's 3647 00:50:10,358 --> 00:50:10,792 a 3648 00:50:10,792 --> 00:50:12,792 level of 3649 00:50:12,995 --> 00:50:13,361 authority, uh, that 3650 00:50:13,361 --> 00:50:15,361 we don't 3651 00:50:15,763 --> 00:50:17,980 customarily 3652 00:50:17,980 --> 00:50:17,833 grant 3653 00:50:17,833 --> 00:50:19,833 non-judicial officials. So 3654 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:20,535 I'm 3655 00:50:20,535 --> 00:50:22,300 wondering 3656 00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:22,304 uh if we need 3657 00:50:22,304 --> 00:50:22,871 to add 3658 00:50:22,871 --> 00:50:24,172 an additional 3659 00:50:24,172 --> 00:50:26,172 limitation there 3660 00:50:26,441 --> 00:50:26,808 . 3661 00:50:26,808 --> 00:50:27,175 I mean 3662 00:50:27,175 --> 00:50:28,410 , that's 3663 00:50:28,410 --> 00:50:29,100 qualifications 3664 00:50:29,100 --> 00:50:29,345 of members, that's a question 3665 00:50:29,345 --> 00:50:30,512 to us 3666 00:50:30,512 --> 00:50:32,512 as 3667 00:50:33,748 --> 00:50:35,417 as 3668 00:50:35,417 --> 00:50:35,951 part of to the best 3669 00:50:35,951 --> 00:50:36,251 of your knowledge 3670 00:50:36,251 --> 00:50:37,352 , is 3671 00:50:37,352 --> 00:50:38,320 this like 3672 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,255 barely standard 3673 00:50:40,255 --> 00:50:40,922 , pretty 3674 00:50:40,922 --> 00:50:41,723 standard across the state 3675 00:50:41,723 --> 00:50:41,828 . Yes 3676 00:50:41,828 --> 00:50:42,290 , 3677 00:50:42,290 --> 00:50:42,891 sir. So let's 3678 00:50:42,891 --> 00:50:44,260 let's, let's 3679 00:50:44,260 --> 00:50:44,359 , 3680 00:50:44,359 --> 00:50:44,826 let's 3681 00:50:44,826 --> 00:50:45,327 , let's 3682 00:50:45,327 --> 00:50:45,593 recall why this, 3683 00:50:45,593 --> 00:50:46,428 this 3684 00:50:46,428 --> 00:50:46,828 is even 3685 00:50:46,828 --> 00:50:47,562 being brought up, 3686 00:50:47,562 --> 00:50:48,396 and this is where I got to 3687 00:50:48,396 --> 00:50:48,797 give 3688 00:50:48,797 --> 00:50:49,465 staff a lot 3689 00:50:49,465 --> 00:50:49,931 of 3690 00:50:49,931 --> 00:50:50,765 credit 3691 00:50:50,765 --> 00:50:51,100 because 3692 00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:51,533 we did 3693 00:50:51,533 --> 00:50:51,733 not have 3694 00:50:51,733 --> 00:50:52,233 a 3695 00:50:52,233 --> 00:50:52,935 mechanism 3696 00:50:52,935 --> 00:50:53,268 in 3697 00:50:53,268 --> 00:50:54,690 place 3698 00:50:54,690 --> 00:50:55,470 . Before 3699 00:50:55,470 --> 00:50:55,871 this, um 3700 00:50:55,871 --> 00:50:57,439 . A 3701 00:50:57,439 --> 00:50:58,106 for 3702 00:50:58,106 --> 00:50:58,373 several years, we have dealt 3703 00:50:58,373 --> 00:50:58,607 with 3704 00:50:58,607 --> 00:51:00,342 the 3705 00:51:00,342 --> 00:51:00,776 dilapidated, burnt 3706 00:51:00,776 --> 00:51:01,276 out 3707 00:51:01,276 --> 00:51:02,578 house that has 3708 00:51:02,578 --> 00:51:03,780 been a um 3709 00:51:03,780 --> 00:51:03,183 how 3710 00:51:03,183 --> 00:51:03,445 do 3711 00:51:03,445 --> 00:51:04,713 I 3712 00:51:04,713 --> 00:51:06,481 ? Como 3713 00:51:06,481 --> 00:51:06,848 Sidi 3714 00:51:06,848 --> 00:51:07,820 pariah 3715 00:51:07,820 --> 00:51:09,820 on 3716 00:51:09,518 --> 00:51:10,286 and, you 3717 00:51:10,286 --> 00:51:10,685 know, and it, and you know, 3718 00:51:10,685 --> 00:51:11,386 even as 3719 00:51:11,386 --> 00:51:11,753 this 3720 00:51:11,753 --> 00:51:12,870 counsel 3721 00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:12,220 who we 3722 00:51:12,220 --> 00:51:12,754 , 3723 00:51:12,754 --> 00:51:13,689 we've gone and 3724 00:51:13,689 --> 00:51:14,560 had 3725 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:14,790 this 3726 00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:15,910 conversation through the years 3727 00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:15,925 about 3728 00:51:15,925 --> 00:51:16,425 what to 3729 00:51:16,425 --> 00:51:16,692 do with 3730 00:51:16,692 --> 00:51:17,590 that 3731 00:51:17,590 --> 00:51:17,526 home 3732 00:51:17,526 --> 00:51:17,960 We had 3733 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:18,493 no 3734 00:51:18,493 --> 00:51:18,760 mechanisms 3735 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,227 in 3736 00:51:19,227 --> 00:51:19,461 place 3737 00:51:19,461 --> 00:51:19,728 . 3738 00:51:19,728 --> 00:51:20,529 So 3739 00:51:20,529 --> 00:51:21,263 I 3740 00:51:21,263 --> 00:51:21,496 applaud staff 3741 00:51:21,496 --> 00:51:21,897 for looking 3742 00:51:21,897 --> 00:51:23,499 at, ok 3743 00:51:23,499 --> 00:51:24,333 , what are, you know, the 3744 00:51:24,333 --> 00:51:24,633 industry standards, where are 3745 00:51:24,633 --> 00:51:26,268 the 3746 00:51:26,268 --> 00:51:27,502 best 3747 00:51:27,502 --> 00:51:27,970 applicable conditions 3748 00:51:27,970 --> 00:51:28,370 , 3749 00:51:28,370 --> 00:51:28,704 um, clauses 3750 00:51:28,704 --> 00:51:29,400 , everything else 3751 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:29,372 that 3752 00:51:29,372 --> 00:51:29,805 goes with 3753 00:51:29,805 --> 00:51:30,238 this to 3754 00:51:30,238 --> 00:51:30,939 make 3755 00:51:30,939 --> 00:51:31,340 this happen 3756 00:51:31,340 --> 00:51:32,975 right here 3757 00:51:32,975 --> 00:51:34,750 . And I 3758 00:51:34,750 --> 00:51:35,770 think that part of it is that 3759 00:51:35,770 --> 00:51:35,677 you're asking questions about, 3760 00:51:35,677 --> 00:51:36,345 hey, why this threshold and 3761 00:51:36,345 --> 00:51:37,120 everything else from there? And 3762 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:37,312 we understand that because it's 3763 00:51:37,312 --> 00:51:38,800 it's 3764 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:38,280 what the 3765 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:38,981 industry 3766 00:51:38,981 --> 00:51:39,880 standards comes with that 3767 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:39,514 . 3768 00:51:39,514 --> 00:51:40,515 Additionally 3769 00:51:40,515 --> 00:51:41,250 , you ask, well, 3770 00:51:41,250 --> 00:51:42,500 wait a minute, we have some 3771 00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:43,385 clauses here that we don't have 3772 00:51:43,385 --> 00:51:43,752 in other 3773 00:51:43,752 --> 00:51:44,530 commissions 3774 00:51:44,530 --> 00:51:44,520 , which 3775 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,555 makes us 3776 00:51:45,555 --> 00:51:45,687 go look back at, hey 3777 00:51:45,687 --> 00:51:45,921 , 3778 00:51:45,921 --> 00:51:46,655 we 3779 00:51:46,655 --> 00:51:46,989 should probably have that 3780 00:51:46,989 --> 00:51:47,322 clause 3781 00:51:47,322 --> 00:51:47,590 and some 3782 00:51:47,590 --> 00:51:48,390 other 3783 00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:49,250 conditions too. We regarded 3784 00:51:49,250 --> 00:51:49,825 some stuff that happened 3785 00:51:49,825 --> 00:51:50,159 from 3786 00:51:50,159 --> 00:51:50,492 there 3787 00:51:50,492 --> 00:51:50,826 . I think 3788 00:51:50,826 --> 00:51:51,360 this 3789 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:51,627 is great 3790 00:51:51,627 --> 00:51:51,961 . I 3791 00:51:51,961 --> 00:51:52,227 think 3792 00:51:52,227 --> 00:51:52,795 it 3793 00:51:52,795 --> 00:51:53,128 makes sense 3794 00:51:53,128 --> 00:51:53,496 . I 3795 00:51:53,496 --> 00:51:54,296 also 3796 00:51:54,296 --> 00:51:54,997 understand your questions 3797 00:51:54,997 --> 00:51:55,765 , but 3798 00:51:55,765 --> 00:51:55,898 I think, I mean, I don't 3799 00:51:55,898 --> 00:51:56,198 , I, 3800 00:51:56,198 --> 00:51:56,665 and 3801 00:51:56,665 --> 00:51:57,299 , and 3802 00:51:57,299 --> 00:51:57,466 you asked the 3803 00:51:57,466 --> 00:51:57,833 one 3804 00:51:57,833 --> 00:51:58,200 question 3805 00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:58,867 about 3806 00:51:58,867 --> 00:51:59,368 putting lawyers 3807 00:51:59,368 --> 00:51:59,968 on there 3808 00:51:59,968 --> 00:52:00,403 . I don't think you 3809 00:52:00,403 --> 00:52:00,736 need to 3810 00:52:00,736 --> 00:52:01,403 go 3811 00:52:01,403 --> 00:52:01,737 on there 3812 00:52:01,737 --> 00:52:02,171 . I 3813 00:52:02,171 --> 00:52:02,571 think 3814 00:52:02,571 --> 00:52:02,839 it's, you 3815 00:52:02,839 --> 00:52:03,439 know 3816 00:52:03,439 --> 00:52:03,906 , it's fine the 3817 00:52:03,906 --> 00:52:04,640 way it is 3818 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:05,173 . I don't know, I 3819 00:52:05,173 --> 00:52:05,441 think it's better 3820 00:52:05,441 --> 00:52:05,908 without 3821 00:52:05,908 --> 00:52:07,843 lawyers. Well 3822 00:52:07,843 --> 00:52:08,210 , I'd 3823 00:52:08,210 --> 00:52:08,677 lawyers who, 3824 00:52:08,677 --> 00:52:09,780 who know the 3825 00:52:09,780 --> 00:52:10,145 explicit 3826 00:52:10,145 --> 00:52:10,512 law MAY, 3827 00:52:10,512 --> 00:52:12,512 MAY, um 3828 00:52:13,490 --> 00:52:14,817 . Uh not consider 3829 00:52:14,817 --> 00:52:15,150 uh 3830 00:52:15,150 --> 00:52:15,918 other 3831 00:52:15,918 --> 00:52:16,152 compassionate reasons to. 3832 00:52:16,152 --> 00:52:17,286 Um 3833 00:52:17,286 --> 00:52:17,587 . Rule a 3834 00:52:17,587 --> 00:52:19,210 certain 3835 00:52:19,210 --> 00:52:19,388 way. Well, I 3836 00:52:19,388 --> 00:52:19,688 have to 3837 00:52:19,688 --> 00:52:20,155 say 3838 00:52:20,155 --> 00:52:21,424 that the many 3839 00:52:21,424 --> 00:52:22,157 , many 3840 00:52:22,157 --> 00:52:23,125 justices of the peace that 3841 00:52:23,125 --> 00:52:23,592 I 3842 00:52:23,592 --> 00:52:23,959 have dealt 3843 00:52:23,959 --> 00:52:24,627 with 3844 00:52:24,627 --> 00:52:25,861 , uh, my 3845 00:52:25,861 --> 00:52:26,695 two 3846 00:52:26,695 --> 00:52:27,960 favorites were not lawyers. 3847 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:27,896 There you 3848 00:52:27,896 --> 00:52:28,363 go 3849 00:52:28,363 --> 00:52:28,598 . Thank you 3850 00:52:28,598 --> 00:52:28,998 for 3851 00:52:28,998 --> 00:52:29,498 your 3852 00:52:29,498 --> 00:52:31,498 agreement 3853 00:52:32,401 --> 00:52:32,835 . But 3854 00:52:32,835 --> 00:52:33,502 also 3855 00:52:33,502 --> 00:52:34,938 justices of the peace don't 3856 00:52:34,938 --> 00:52:35,538 have the 3857 00:52:35,538 --> 00:52:37,600 the power that 3858 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:37,339 we're 3859 00:52:37,339 --> 00:52:38,700 we're 3860 00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:38,207 , we're investing in 3861 00:52:38,207 --> 00:52:38,607 this 3862 00:52:38,607 --> 00:52:39,408 commission 3863 00:52:39,408 --> 00:52:39,775 . David, do you have 3864 00:52:39,775 --> 00:52:40,760 any, any 3865 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:40,643 other 3866 00:52:40,643 --> 00:52:42,643 questions 3867 00:52:43,679 --> 00:52:44,800 ? Yeah 3868 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:44,447 , 3869 00:52:44,447 --> 00:52:44,880 and we 3870 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,149 , uh, really 3871 00:52:46,149 --> 00:52:46,682 , uh, touched 3872 00:52:46,682 --> 00:52:47,316 on this, and 3873 00:52:47,316 --> 00:52:48,351 we have, we have 3874 00:52:48,351 --> 00:52:49,151 had 3875 00:52:49,151 --> 00:52:50,753 this 3876 00:52:50,753 --> 00:52:51,687 one instance with this 3877 00:52:51,687 --> 00:52:53,489 one building and it was 3878 00:52:53,489 --> 00:52:55,191 2 years 3879 00:52:55,191 --> 00:52:55,658 2.5 years 3880 00:52:55,658 --> 00:52:57,426 , maybe 3 now 3881 00:52:57,426 --> 00:52:57,560 . Uh 3882 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:57,893 , 3883 00:52:57,893 --> 00:52:58,361 start 3884 00:52:58,361 --> 00:52:58,828 to 3885 00:52:58,828 --> 00:53:00,828 finish, um 3886 00:53:01,898 --> 00:53:02,732 but it's, 3887 00:53:02,732 --> 00:53:04,567 you know, uh, obviously that 3888 00:53:04,567 --> 00:53:05,100 was one problem and it was, you 3889 00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:06,402 know, for 3890 00:53:06,402 --> 00:53:06,869 the 3891 00:53:06,869 --> 00:53:07,703 people 3892 00:53:07,703 --> 00:53:08,904 immediately around that, there 3893 00:53:08,904 --> 00:53:09,271 was a, you know 3894 00:53:09,271 --> 00:53:09,539 , ongoing 3895 00:53:09,539 --> 00:53:09,672 issue 3896 00:53:09,672 --> 00:53:10,139 , 3897 00:53:10,139 --> 00:53:10,973 but is this 3898 00:53:10,973 --> 00:53:11,307 is 3899 00:53:11,307 --> 00:53:11,540 this 3900 00:53:11,540 --> 00:53:12,750 something 3901 00:53:12,750 --> 00:53:12,942 that we run into 3902 00:53:12,942 --> 00:53:13,342 a 3903 00:53:13,342 --> 00:53:13,609 lot? Is 3904 00:53:13,609 --> 00:53:14,110 this 3905 00:53:14,110 --> 00:53:15,244 a solution 3906 00:53:15,244 --> 00:53:15,778 in search of a 3907 00:53:15,778 --> 00:53:17,746 problem, or is 3908 00:53:17,746 --> 00:53:18,114 this 3909 00:53:18,114 --> 00:53:18,748 a solution 3910 00:53:18,748 --> 00:53:18,981 to 3911 00:53:18,981 --> 00:53:19,849 a 3912 00:53:19,849 --> 00:53:20,149 regularly 3913 00:53:20,149 --> 00:53:20,383 ongoing 3914 00:53:20,383 --> 00:53:20,850 problem. 3915 00:53:20,850 --> 00:53:22,850 I think that 3916 00:53:22,850 --> 00:53:22,252 you want to 3917 00:53:22,252 --> 00:53:23,152 have 3918 00:53:23,152 --> 00:53:23,920 something you don't need it and 3919 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:24,187 needs something you don't have 3920 00:53:24,187 --> 00:53:25,388 it 3921 00:53:25,388 --> 00:53:26,656 . I would 3922 00:53:26,656 --> 00:53:27,890 I'd like to hear 3923 00:53:27,890 --> 00:53:29,890 the answer 3924 00:53:31,127 --> 00:53:31,235 . What I'm shocked 3925 00:53:31,235 --> 00:53:31,961 at 3926 00:53:31,961 --> 00:53:32,398 here in the city of Flugerville 3927 00:53:32,398 --> 00:53:33,229 is 3928 00:53:33,229 --> 00:53:33,563 how many 3929 00:53:33,563 --> 00:53:33,797 houses 3930 00:53:33,797 --> 00:53:34,230 get struck 3931 00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:35,798 by lightning 3932 00:53:35,798 --> 00:53:36,432 . Fires 3933 00:53:36,432 --> 00:53:37,500 . You'd 3934 00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:38,670 be 3935 00:53:38,670 --> 00:53:38,368 surprised, especially 3936 00:53:38,368 --> 00:53:39,802 in the 3937 00:53:39,802 --> 00:53:40,403 on 3938 00:53:40,403 --> 00:53:41,300 the eastern part of 3939 00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:42,104 the South 3940 00:53:42,104 --> 00:53:42,672 . 3941 00:53:42,672 --> 00:53:43,106 It, it happens 3942 00:53:43,106 --> 00:53:43,473 a lot 3943 00:53:43,473 --> 00:53:44,340 . Now 3944 00:53:44,340 --> 00:53:44,741 this 3945 00:53:44,741 --> 00:53:45,308 particular 3946 00:53:45,308 --> 00:53:45,541 fire was 3947 00:53:45,541 --> 00:53:45,808 not caused 3948 00:53:45,808 --> 00:53:46,709 by 3949 00:53:46,709 --> 00:53:47,410 a 3950 00:53:47,410 --> 00:53:47,810 lightning strike, and that 3951 00:53:47,810 --> 00:53:49,112 was part 3952 00:53:49,112 --> 00:53:49,479 of the 3953 00:53:49,479 --> 00:53:49,712 issue as 3954 00:53:49,712 --> 00:53:50,130 to why 3955 00:53:50,130 --> 00:53:51,448 it's 3956 00:53:51,448 --> 00:53:51,748 remained in the state 3957 00:53:51,748 --> 00:53:52,215 it's 3958 00:53:52,215 --> 00:53:53,450 in, it was 3959 00:53:53,450 --> 00:53:53,716 an 3960 00:53:53,716 --> 00:53:54,350 ongoing 3961 00:53:54,350 --> 00:53:54,817 investigation and other things 3962 00:53:54,817 --> 00:53:55,885 like that, but 3963 00:53:55,885 --> 00:53:57,885 um 3964 00:53:59,389 --> 00:53:59,656 , yeah 3965 00:53:59,656 --> 00:54:00,757 , you 3966 00:54:00,757 --> 00:54:01,570 could have you could 3967 00:54:01,570 --> 00:54:01,758 burn the 3968 00:54:01,758 --> 00:54:02,426 potential of having more 3969 00:54:02,426 --> 00:54:02,859 of 3970 00:54:02,859 --> 00:54:03,392 these and 3971 00:54:03,392 --> 00:54:04,661 ironically 3972 00:54:04,661 --> 00:54:04,928 , this was 3973 00:54:04,928 --> 00:54:05,128 in 3974 00:54:05,128 --> 00:54:05,762 a 3975 00:54:05,762 --> 00:54:07,263 newer section of town 3976 00:54:07,263 --> 00:54:07,931 . 3977 00:54:07,931 --> 00:54:08,331 There's older sections of town 3978 00:54:08,331 --> 00:54:09,432 that have 3979 00:54:09,432 --> 00:54:09,666 some 3980 00:54:09,666 --> 00:54:10,233 dilapidated 3981 00:54:10,233 --> 00:54:10,667 structures that we've dealt 3982 00:54:10,667 --> 00:54:11,635 with in the 3983 00:54:11,635 --> 00:54:11,868 past from 3984 00:54:11,868 --> 00:54:12,134 the 3985 00:54:12,134 --> 00:54:14,134 code 3986 00:54:14,270 --> 00:54:14,705 compliance perspective 3987 00:54:14,705 --> 00:54:15,171 . Luckily 3988 00:54:15,171 --> 00:54:16,506 they've come 3989 00:54:16,506 --> 00:54:17,106 into compliance 3990 00:54:17,106 --> 00:54:17,440 . 3991 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,175 With a 3992 00:54:18,175 --> 00:54:18,842 lot 3993 00:54:18,842 --> 00:54:20,510 of handholding and 3994 00:54:20,510 --> 00:54:21,411 working 3995 00:54:21,411 --> 00:54:23,180 with them in time, but 3996 00:54:23,180 --> 00:54:23,613 it 3997 00:54:23,613 --> 00:54:25,381 , it'll happen 3998 00:54:25,381 --> 00:54:25,882 It'll 3999 00:54:25,882 --> 00:54:27,585 definitely happen 4000 00:54:27,585 --> 00:54:28,384 How often? I 4001 00:54:28,384 --> 00:54:29,753 mean, is this a once in 4002 00:54:29,753 --> 00:54:30,587 a 4003 00:54:30,587 --> 00:54:30,955 decade problem? Is this a 4004 00:54:30,955 --> 00:54:32,756 once 4005 00:54:32,756 --> 00:54:33,560 every 6 months 4006 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:33,289 problem 4007 00:54:33,289 --> 00:54:33,523 ? No 4008 00:54:33,523 --> 00:54:33,790 , I'd 4009 00:54:33,790 --> 00:54:35,225 say 4010 00:54:35,225 --> 00:54:37,225 . Once every 4011 00:54:37,460 --> 00:54:39,280 23 years, I 4012 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:39,396 would imagine, where I came 4013 00:54:39,396 --> 00:54:41,396 from my 4014 00:54:41,931 --> 00:54:42,399 previous municipality 4015 00:54:42,399 --> 00:54:43,700 of a city of 4016 00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:45,700 5000 4017 00:54:45,769 --> 00:54:46,336 . I 4018 00:54:46,336 --> 00:54:46,736 probably 4019 00:54:46,736 --> 00:54:48,400 had 3 4020 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:48,805 structures that were 4021 00:54:48,805 --> 00:54:50,273 taken care of in that 10-year 4022 00:54:50,273 --> 00:54:52,273 time period, so 4023 00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:52,642 . When 4024 00:54:52,642 --> 00:54:53,243 you scale 4025 00:54:53,243 --> 00:54:54,311 that up to the size 4026 00:54:54,311 --> 00:54:54,711 of 4027 00:54:54,711 --> 00:54:55,790 Flugerville 4028 00:54:55,790 --> 00:54:55,679 , I imagine it's 4029 00:54:55,679 --> 00:54:57,347 going to happen more 4030 00:54:57,347 --> 00:54:58,148 . Is your, 4031 00:54:58,148 --> 00:54:59,283 is your expectation that we 4032 00:54:59,283 --> 00:54:59,716 will staff 4033 00:54:59,716 --> 00:55:01,484 this 4034 00:55:01,484 --> 00:55:02,850 with 4035 00:55:02,850 --> 00:55:02,485 uh board 4036 00:55:02,485 --> 00:55:03,720 members 4037 00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:04,354 , uh, consistently, or 4038 00:55:04,354 --> 00:55:04,921 will this be more like, I'm 4039 00:55:04,921 --> 00:55:05,922 gonna say the, the 4040 00:55:05,922 --> 00:55:06,890 Board 4041 00:55:06,890 --> 00:55:06,556 of 4042 00:55:06,556 --> 00:55:06,890 Adjustment and 4043 00:55:06,890 --> 00:55:08,580 the 4044 00:55:08,580 --> 00:55:08,525 personnel 4045 00:55:08,525 --> 00:55:08,992 appeal board 4046 00:55:08,992 --> 00:55:10,427 that 4047 00:55:10,427 --> 00:55:11,610 we appoint 4048 00:55:11,610 --> 00:55:11,194 about the time that 4049 00:55:11,194 --> 00:55:11,596 it's 4050 00:55:11,596 --> 00:55:13,596 necessary 4051 00:55:13,864 --> 00:55:14,297 . It's preferable that 4052 00:55:14,297 --> 00:55:14,898 they're at 4053 00:55:14,898 --> 00:55:15,232 least 4054 00:55:15,232 --> 00:55:15,866 on board 4055 00:55:15,866 --> 00:55:17,670 they're briefed, they 4056 00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:17,767 know what 4057 00:55:17,767 --> 00:55:18,502 their duties areeducated and 4058 00:55:18,502 --> 00:55:19,503 trained and their limitations 4059 00:55:19,503 --> 00:55:19,870 . 4060 00:55:19,870 --> 00:55:20,270 They're 4061 00:55:20,270 --> 00:55:21,706 trained, but 4062 00:55:21,706 --> 00:55:22,372 the hope 4063 00:55:22,372 --> 00:55:22,506 is that you never see 4064 00:55:22,506 --> 00:55:22,839 them 4065 00:55:22,839 --> 00:55:24,508 again 4066 00:55:24,508 --> 00:55:24,808 . And 4067 00:55:24,808 --> 00:55:26,430 I know 4068 00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:26,161 , uh, one 4069 00:55:26,161 --> 00:55:26,510 of 4070 00:55:26,510 --> 00:55:26,777 my, my 4071 00:55:26,777 --> 00:55:27,377 big 4072 00:55:27,377 --> 00:55:28,145 motivations on this 4073 00:55:28,145 --> 00:55:28,712 . 4074 00:55:28,712 --> 00:55:29,246 I know going through the 4075 00:55:29,246 --> 00:55:30,580 process, I was 4076 00:55:30,580 --> 00:55:30,947 , I 4077 00:55:30,947 --> 00:55:31,381 think a 4078 00:55:31,381 --> 00:55:31,882 , a 4079 00:55:31,882 --> 00:55:32,883 lone no vote 4080 00:55:32,883 --> 00:55:33,160 on on 4081 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:33,383 going 4082 00:55:33,383 --> 00:55:34,170 through 4083 00:55:34,170 --> 00:55:35,585 a process on a 4084 00:55:35,585 --> 00:55:35,819 particular structure in 4085 00:55:35,819 --> 00:55:36,486 the 4086 00:55:36,486 --> 00:55:37,421 past. Uh, and 4087 00:55:37,421 --> 00:55:37,888 my 4088 00:55:37,888 --> 00:55:38,121 reason 4089 00:55:38,121 --> 00:55:38,855 was 4090 00:55:38,855 --> 00:55:39,690 because we did 4091 00:55:39,690 --> 00:55:39,990 not have 4092 00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:40,557 the 4093 00:55:40,557 --> 00:55:40,857 building 4094 00:55:40,857 --> 00:55:41,291 uh and 4095 00:55:41,291 --> 00:55:43,930 Standards 4096 00:55:43,930 --> 00:55:43,393 Commission. Without 4097 00:55:43,393 --> 00:55:44,610 it 4098 00:55:44,610 --> 00:55:45,295 , we bore 4099 00:55:45,295 --> 00:55:46,697 the citizens board 4100 00:55:46,697 --> 00:55:46,930 the 4101 00:55:46,930 --> 00:55:47,365 expense 4102 00:55:47,365 --> 00:55:48,699 of going to 4103 00:55:48,699 --> 00:55:49,199 district 4104 00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:49,309 court 4105 00:55:49,309 --> 00:55:49,833 , 4106 00:55:49,833 --> 00:55:50,834 whereas with this 4107 00:55:50,834 --> 00:55:51,201 in 4108 00:55:51,201 --> 00:55:51,335 place 4109 00:55:51,335 --> 00:55:51,635 , um, 4110 00:55:51,635 --> 00:55:53,635 that 4111 00:55:54,371 --> 00:55:54,938 , uh, that 4112 00:55:54,938 --> 00:55:55,839 burden will be 4113 00:55:55,839 --> 00:55:57,839 on the 4114 00:55:57,875 --> 00:55:58,175 structure and not on 4115 00:55:58,175 --> 00:55:58,775 the 4116 00:55:58,775 --> 00:55:59,977 citizens. I think 4117 00:55:59,977 --> 00:56:00,544 it serves a 4118 00:56:00,544 --> 00:56:00,911 very important 4119 00:56:00,911 --> 00:56:02,279 purpose for 4120 00:56:02,279 --> 00:56:02,746 us 4121 00:56:02,746 --> 00:56:04,746 in in equity 4122 00:56:04,848 --> 00:56:05,216 . Well 4123 00:56:05,216 --> 00:56:05,649 , if anybody 4124 00:56:05,649 --> 00:56:06,617 goes to the 4125 00:56:06,617 --> 00:56:07,485 district court, 4126 00:56:07,485 --> 00:56:07,885 both sides are going to have to 4127 00:56:07,885 --> 00:56:09,187 bear their 4128 00:56:09,187 --> 00:56:11,187 own expenses 4129 00:56:11,522 --> 00:56:12,890 . If it 4130 00:56:12,890 --> 00:56:13,490 gets to that point 4131 00:56:13,490 --> 00:56:14,391 , but this 4132 00:56:14,391 --> 00:56:14,725 helps avoid that point and puts 4133 00:56:14,725 --> 00:56:15,826 expenses 4134 00:56:15,826 --> 00:56:16,360 . I 4135 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,363 , I am under the 4136 00:56:18,363 --> 00:56:18,962 impression that uh we can 4137 00:56:18,962 --> 00:56:20,265 reclaim expenses 4138 00:56:20,265 --> 00:56:20,531 . With 4139 00:56:20,531 --> 00:56:20,998 this in 4140 00:56:20,998 --> 00:56:22,600 place. In 4141 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:23,367 my experience, I 4142 00:56:23,367 --> 00:56:23,600 think this is a good tool 4143 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:24,968 to 4144 00:56:24,968 --> 00:56:25,869 have because it 4145 00:56:25,869 --> 00:56:26,270 leads to 4146 00:56:26,270 --> 00:56:28,270 education 4147 00:56:29,390 --> 00:56:29,373 More 4148 00:56:29,373 --> 00:56:30,400 compliance 4149 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:30,441 because people will see this, 4150 00:56:30,441 --> 00:56:31,542 that this 4151 00:56:31,542 --> 00:56:32,900 is a 4152 00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:32,409 tool that Mr 4153 00:56:32,409 --> 00:56:32,876 . 4154 00:56:32,876 --> 00:56:33,811 Kuanco has and 4155 00:56:33,811 --> 00:56:34,780 I 4156 00:56:34,780 --> 00:56:34,278 think 4157 00:56:34,278 --> 00:56:34,946 it leads 4158 00:56:34,946 --> 00:56:36,130 I mean, again, I think 4159 00:56:36,130 --> 00:56:36,747 it helps 4160 00:56:36,747 --> 00:56:38,150 Another chill in 4161 00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:38,549 I, I 4162 00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:38,716 have 4163 00:56:38,716 --> 00:56:39,249 some 4164 00:56:39,249 --> 00:56:40,717 questions. Melody 4165 00:56:40,717 --> 00:56:41,510 , Yes 4166 00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:41,485 , I just 4167 00:56:41,485 --> 00:56:43,485 wanted to 4168 00:56:43,854 --> 00:56:44,889 understand 4169 00:56:44,889 --> 00:56:45,122 if um 4170 00:56:45,122 --> 00:56:45,956 you 4171 00:56:45,956 --> 00:56:47,524 know, I know this was during 4172 00:56:47,524 --> 00:56:47,959 the commission, but there was a 4173 00:56:47,959 --> 00:56:49,959 lot of um 4174 00:56:50,361 --> 00:56:51,729 information about the 4175 00:56:51,729 --> 00:56:51,962 rules 4176 00:56:51,962 --> 00:56:52,196 and 4177 00:56:52,196 --> 00:56:52,596 and 4178 00:56:52,596 --> 00:56:52,997 what's considered 4179 00:56:52,997 --> 00:56:53,931 you know 4180 00:56:53,931 --> 00:56:54,598 , all 4181 00:56:54,598 --> 00:56:54,832 the definitions 4182 00:56:54,832 --> 00:56:55,990 . 4183 00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:56,660 So 4184 00:56:56,660 --> 00:56:56,567 are all 4185 00:56:56,567 --> 00:56:57,340 of 4186 00:56:57,340 --> 00:56:57,468 these 4187 00:56:57,468 --> 00:56:58,635 requirements 4188 00:56:58,635 --> 00:56:58,969 already 4189 00:56:58,969 --> 00:56:59,603 in our 4190 00:56:59,603 --> 00:57:00,370 code and we're just 4191 00:57:00,370 --> 00:57:00,805 putting it 4192 00:57:00,805 --> 00:57:01,372 under 4193 00:57:01,372 --> 00:57:01,572 this commission, or 4194 00:57:01,572 --> 00:57:01,905 are 4195 00:57:01,905 --> 00:57:02,807 these 4196 00:57:02,807 --> 00:57:03,475 new 4197 00:57:03,475 --> 00:57:04,175 requirements and new 4198 00:57:04,175 --> 00:57:05,309 guidelines that 4199 00:57:05,309 --> 00:57:05,676 don't currently 4200 00:57:05,676 --> 00:57:06,177 exist 4201 00:57:06,177 --> 00:57:06,443 . The second part 4202 00:57:06,443 --> 00:57:06,845 of this 4203 00:57:06,845 --> 00:57:07,978 ordinance 4204 00:57:07,978 --> 00:57:08,279 . Yeah 4205 00:57:08,279 --> 00:57:08,680 , just when it 4206 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:09,713 when it's 4207 00:57:09,713 --> 00:57:10,114 talking about, you 4208 00:57:10,114 --> 00:57:10,514 know, what 4209 00:57:10,514 --> 00:57:11,816 the standards 4210 00:57:11,816 --> 00:57:12,116 , you 4211 00:57:12,116 --> 00:57:12,850 know 4212 00:57:12,850 --> 00:57:13,285 , what's dilapidated, 4213 00:57:13,285 --> 00:57:14,418 what's, you 4214 00:57:14,418 --> 00:57:14,526 know, you know 4215 00:57:14,526 --> 00:57:14,852 , 4216 00:57:14,852 --> 00:57:15,586 occupied 4217 00:57:15,586 --> 00:57:16,254 , unoccupied, you know 4218 00:57:16,254 --> 00:57:16,721 , 4219 00:57:16,721 --> 00:57:17,870 and like all 4220 00:57:17,870 --> 00:57:17,822 the requirements 4221 00:57:17,822 --> 00:57:18,622 that people would, you know 4222 00:57:18,622 --> 00:57:19,560 , 4223 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:19,623 would have 4224 00:57:19,623 --> 00:57:21,325 to follow 4225 00:57:21,325 --> 00:57:21,473 , um, it 4226 00:57:21,473 --> 00:57:21,726 , 4227 00:57:21,726 --> 00:57:21,993 are 4228 00:57:21,993 --> 00:57:22,393 those 4229 00:57:22,393 --> 00:57:23,160 already 4230 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:23,728 existing 4231 00:57:23,728 --> 00:57:23,861 somewhere and we're 4232 00:57:23,861 --> 00:57:24,362 just 4233 00:57:24,362 --> 00:57:24,795 codifying them 4234 00:57:24,795 --> 00:57:25,963 here 4235 00:57:25,963 --> 00:57:26,597 under the 4236 00:57:26,597 --> 00:57:27,198 the authority of 4237 00:57:27,198 --> 00:57:27,766 the commission 4238 00:57:27,766 --> 00:57:28,990 or are 4239 00:57:28,990 --> 00:57:28,899 these 4240 00:57:28,899 --> 00:57:29,166 all 4241 00:57:29,166 --> 00:57:29,600 new 4242 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:30,201 requirements 4243 00:57:30,201 --> 00:57:31,168 that 4244 00:57:31,168 --> 00:57:31,802 don't exist 4245 00:57:31,802 --> 00:57:32,503 . 4246 00:57:32,503 --> 00:57:32,837 They exist in a couple 4247 00:57:32,837 --> 00:57:33,838 of 4248 00:57:33,838 --> 00:57:34,572 different places. They're 4249 00:57:34,572 --> 00:57:34,905 kind 4250 00:57:34,905 --> 00:57:35,139 of in 4251 00:57:35,139 --> 00:57:36,141 the 4252 00:57:36,141 --> 00:57:36,508 public 4253 00:57:36,508 --> 00:57:36,875 nuisances 4254 00:57:36,875 --> 00:57:37,141 section 4255 00:57:37,141 --> 00:57:37,808 , and 4256 00:57:37,808 --> 00:57:38,509 they're also in 4257 00:57:38,509 --> 00:57:39,430 the Internation Property 4258 00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:39,877 Maintenance code 4259 00:57:39,877 --> 00:57:41,178 So 4260 00:57:41,178 --> 00:57:41,879 this second 4261 00:57:41,879 --> 00:57:42,180 section of this ordinance will 4262 00:57:42,180 --> 00:57:43,581 just 4263 00:57:43,581 --> 00:57:43,815 codify them and give 4264 00:57:43,815 --> 00:57:44,810 it 4265 00:57:44,810 --> 00:57:44,482 a 4266 00:57:44,482 --> 00:57:45,983 more 4267 00:57:45,983 --> 00:57:46,250 concise place for them 4268 00:57:46,250 --> 00:57:47,850 to 4269 00:57:47,850 --> 00:57:48,152 to reference 4270 00:57:48,152 --> 00:57:48,619 and 4271 00:57:48,619 --> 00:57:48,886 for the 4272 00:57:48,886 --> 00:57:49,387 code 4273 00:57:49,387 --> 00:57:50,187 enforcement 4274 00:57:50,187 --> 00:57:50,789 officer, should 4275 00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:51,255 they come upon a 4276 00:57:51,255 --> 00:57:51,556 case like this 4277 00:57:51,556 --> 00:57:52,357 they 4278 00:57:52,357 --> 00:57:53,230 can 4279 00:57:53,230 --> 00:57:53,558 directly reference 4280 00:57:53,558 --> 00:57:54,910 this 4281 00:57:54,910 --> 00:57:55,259 ordinance rather 4282 00:57:55,259 --> 00:57:56,270 than the 4283 00:57:56,270 --> 00:57:57,562 international property 4284 00:57:57,562 --> 00:57:59,130 maintenance code. There is a 4285 00:57:59,130 --> 00:57:59,665 a 4286 00:57:59,665 --> 00:58:00,640 section in there 4287 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:00,465 that does 4288 00:58:00,465 --> 00:58:01,933 allow us 4289 00:58:01,933 --> 00:58:02,200 to 4290 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:02,600 use 4291 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:03,401 other codes 4292 00:58:03,401 --> 00:58:04,100 as 4293 00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:04,436 adopted by the city 4294 00:58:04,436 --> 00:58:04,902 of 4295 00:58:04,902 --> 00:58:06,700 Louisville 4296 00:58:06,700 --> 00:58:06,605 because most of 4297 00:58:06,605 --> 00:58:06,871 these are dealing 4298 00:58:06,871 --> 00:58:07,500 with 4299 00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:07,538 the 4300 00:58:07,538 --> 00:58:08,306 structure itself 4301 00:58:08,306 --> 00:58:08,473 , but 4302 00:58:08,473 --> 00:58:09,600 you're 4303 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:09,307 also going to be 4304 00:58:09,307 --> 00:58:10,675 dealing 4305 00:58:10,675 --> 00:58:11,275 with 4306 00:58:11,275 --> 00:58:11,843 the wiring on 4307 00:58:11,843 --> 00:58:12,844 the premises 4308 00:58:12,844 --> 00:58:13,244 , 4309 00:58:13,244 --> 00:58:13,578 mechanical 4310 00:58:13,578 --> 00:58:15,313 hvac 4311 00:58:15,313 --> 00:58:15,546 and 4312 00:58:15,546 --> 00:58:16,180 possibly 4313 00:58:16,180 --> 00:58:17,482 the plumbing as well 4314 00:58:17,482 --> 00:58:17,648 . So 4315 00:58:17,648 --> 00:58:18,116 that 4316 00:58:18,116 --> 00:58:19,617 clause is put 4317 00:58:19,617 --> 00:58:20,184 in there to be 4318 00:58:20,184 --> 00:58:20,485 able to reference 4319 00:58:20,485 --> 00:58:20,752 those codes 4320 00:58:20,752 --> 00:58:21,686 as 4321 00:58:21,686 --> 00:58:22,253 well 4322 00:58:22,253 --> 00:58:22,520 for consideration as 4323 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:23,154 a 4324 00:58:23,154 --> 00:58:24,322 dilapidated 4325 00:58:24,322 --> 00:58:24,556 structure 4326 00:58:24,556 --> 00:58:24,989 . One of 4327 00:58:24,989 --> 00:58:25,523 the things 4328 00:58:25,523 --> 00:58:25,923 I appreciated that 4329 00:58:25,923 --> 00:58:26,491 I 4330 00:58:26,491 --> 00:58:26,791 saw in here 4331 00:58:26,791 --> 00:58:27,191 too 4332 00:58:27,191 --> 00:58:27,525 is 4333 00:58:27,525 --> 00:58:29,460 there is 4334 00:58:29,460 --> 00:58:30,695 seems like a decent amount 4335 00:58:30,695 --> 00:58:31,563 of 4336 00:58:31,563 --> 00:58:32,964 flexibility that the commission 4337 00:58:32,964 --> 00:58:33,398 has in 4338 00:58:33,398 --> 00:58:34,132 terms 4339 00:58:34,132 --> 00:58:34,966 of assessing 4340 00:58:34,966 --> 00:58:35,533 what 4341 00:58:35,533 --> 00:58:35,967 needs to be done 4342 00:58:35,967 --> 00:58:36,335 , the 4343 00:58:36,335 --> 00:58:37,502 timelines 4344 00:58:37,502 --> 00:58:37,892 so 4345 00:58:37,892 --> 00:58:38,537 I I I 4346 00:58:38,537 --> 00:58:39,737 like that 4347 00:58:39,737 --> 00:58:40,710 they also 4348 00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:40,738 have 4349 00:58:40,738 --> 00:58:41,105 an option, right? It's not 4350 00:58:41,105 --> 00:58:41,906 just a 4351 00:58:41,906 --> 00:58:42,640 cut 4352 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:43,740 and 4353 00:58:43,740 --> 00:58:43,274 dry thing 4354 00:58:43,274 --> 00:58:43,541 , um, 4355 00:58:43,541 --> 00:58:44,542 in 4356 00:58:44,542 --> 00:58:45,276 terms 4357 00:58:45,276 --> 00:58:45,777 of 4358 00:58:45,777 --> 00:58:46,744 timeline 4359 00:58:46,744 --> 00:58:47,412 requesting 4360 00:58:47,412 --> 00:58:47,745 uh progress reports from the 4361 00:58:47,745 --> 00:58:48,246 owners 4362 00:58:48,246 --> 00:58:49,347 , etc. That I think 4363 00:58:49,347 --> 00:58:49,747 gives 4364 00:58:49,747 --> 00:58:50,949 it a good 4365 00:58:50,949 --> 00:58:51,249 amount 4366 00:58:51,249 --> 00:58:51,683 of rigor and a 4367 00:58:51,683 --> 00:58:52,830 lot of 4368 00:58:52,830 --> 00:58:53,451 opportunity 4369 00:58:53,451 --> 00:58:53,818 for the 4370 00:58:53,818 --> 00:58:54,218 property 4371 00:58:54,218 --> 00:58:55,620 owner to um 4372 00:58:55,620 --> 00:58:56,870 be 4373 00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:56,521 actively engaged and 4374 00:58:56,521 --> 00:58:58,521 participate 4375 00:58:58,656 --> 00:58:59,791 . One of the 4376 00:58:59,791 --> 00:59:00,258 other 4377 00:59:00,258 --> 00:59:00,625 questions 4378 00:59:00,625 --> 00:59:00,992 I have 4379 00:59:00,992 --> 00:59:01,960 , uh, again 4380 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:02,494 , 4381 00:59:02,494 --> 00:59:02,761 we're talking 4382 00:59:02,761 --> 00:59:03,610 about 4383 00:59:03,610 --> 00:59:03,395 property 4384 00:59:03,395 --> 00:59:04,796 rights 4385 00:59:04,796 --> 00:59:05,196 and lawyers and all of 4386 00:59:05,196 --> 00:59:05,663 that sort 4387 00:59:05,663 --> 00:59:07,650 of business. Um 4388 00:59:07,650 --> 00:59:07,332 the 4389 00:59:07,332 --> 00:59:07,699 , 4390 00:59:07,699 --> 00:59:09,134 there's 4391 00:59:09,134 --> 00:59:09,635 a commission which is 4392 00:59:09,635 --> 00:59:11,303 obviously the 4393 00:59:11,303 --> 00:59:13,303 quasi judiciary 4394 00:59:13,606 --> 00:59:14,105 , 4395 00:59:14,105 --> 00:59:14,406 uh, enforcement 4396 00:59:14,406 --> 00:59:15,840 arm 4397 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:16,241 . Who's 4398 00:59:16,241 --> 00:59:16,741 going to 4399 00:59:16,741 --> 00:59:17,909 bring the cases 4400 00:59:17,909 --> 00:59:18,343 ? Would 4401 00:59:18,343 --> 00:59:20,343 would, uh 4402 00:59:21,646 --> 00:59:22,647 , citizens be able to 4403 00:59:22,647 --> 00:59:22,881 bring the cases 4404 00:59:22,881 --> 00:59:23,281 , or 4405 00:59:23,281 --> 00:59:23,548 would the 4406 00:59:23,548 --> 00:59:24,917 city 4407 00:59:24,917 --> 00:59:25,183 attorney bring the 4408 00:59:25,183 --> 00:59:25,294 case 4409 00:59:25,294 --> 00:59:25,717 ? 4410 00:59:25,717 --> 00:59:26,985 How would 4411 00:59:26,985 --> 00:59:27,485 that 4412 00:59:27,485 --> 00:59:27,786 presentation be 4413 00:59:27,786 --> 00:59:29,786 done 4414 00:59:29,788 --> 00:59:30,222 ? It is done 4415 00:59:30,222 --> 00:59:31,557 by myself as 4416 00:59:31,557 --> 00:59:32,900 the 4417 00:59:32,900 --> 00:59:32,458 billing official, as 4418 00:59:32,458 --> 00:59:32,757 it 4419 00:59:32,757 --> 00:59:33,892 says 4420 00:59:33,892 --> 00:59:34,259 in 4421 00:59:34,259 --> 00:59:34,593 section 4422 00:59:34,593 --> 00:59:35,590 , the role of 4423 00:59:35,590 --> 00:59:36,228 the building 4424 00:59:36,228 --> 00:59:36,828 official 4425 00:59:36,828 --> 00:59:37,129 in 92.20. 4426 00:59:37,129 --> 00:59:37,696 The 4427 00:59:37,696 --> 00:59:38,163 building official of 4428 00:59:38,163 --> 00:59:38,663 the 4429 00:59:38,663 --> 00:59:39,130 city shall 4430 00:59:39,130 --> 00:59:39,364 be authority 4431 00:59:39,364 --> 00:59:41,300 to 4432 00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:42,340 present all cases before the 4433 00:59:42,340 --> 00:59:42,567 commission. It would just be 4434 00:59:42,567 --> 00:59:43,535 like a prosecutor 4435 00:59:43,535 --> 00:59:45,535 . So 4436 00:59:45,705 --> 00:59:46,400 we 4437 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:46,605 get a 4438 00:59:46,605 --> 00:59:47,773 complaint. House 4439 00:59:47,773 --> 00:59:48,307 is dilapidated 4440 00:59:48,307 --> 00:59:48,740 we go out and do 4441 00:59:48,740 --> 00:59:50,475 the inspection 4442 00:59:50,475 --> 00:59:50,742 We determine 4443 00:59:50,742 --> 00:59:51,760 , I'll 4444 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:52,477 determine 4445 00:59:52,477 --> 00:59:52,777 whether I believe 4446 00:59:52,777 --> 00:59:53,120 it is 4447 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:53,178 . If 4448 00:59:53,178 --> 00:59:53,478 we 4449 00:59:53,478 --> 00:59:54,613 do not 4450 00:59:54,613 --> 00:59:55,180 get 4451 00:59:55,180 --> 00:59:55,480 compliance, that's 4452 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:56,848 when 4453 00:59:56,848 --> 00:59:57,215 it then 4454 00:59:57,215 --> 00:59:57,449 we call 4455 00:59:57,449 --> 00:59:58,500 the 4456 00:59:58,500 --> 00:59:58,918 commission 4457 00:59:58,918 --> 00:59:59,184 . We present 4458 00:59:59,184 --> 00:59:59,918 the 4459 00:59:59,918 --> 01:00:00,185 evidence. We send 4460 01:00:00,185 --> 01:00:00,619 the 4461 01:00:00,619 --> 01:00:01,787 notification 4462 01:00:01,787 --> 01:00:02,121 . We 4463 01:00:02,121 --> 01:00:03,488 , there's 4464 01:00:03,488 --> 01:00:03,955 several other 4465 01:00:03,955 --> 01:00:05,691 process and 4466 01:00:05,691 --> 01:00:06,358 notification before it ever 4467 01:00:06,358 --> 01:00:06,725 gets to the commission where we 4468 01:00:06,725 --> 01:00:07,893 try to 4469 01:00:07,893 --> 01:00:08,393 work out with the 4470 01:00:08,393 --> 01:00:08,694 homeowner, hey 4471 01:00:08,694 --> 01:00:08,860 , let's 4472 01:00:08,860 --> 01:00:09,227 , let's 4473 01:00:09,227 --> 01:00:10,362 address 4474 01:00:10,362 --> 01:00:10,662 this thing 4475 01:00:10,662 --> 01:00:10,796 . If 4476 01:00:10,796 --> 01:00:11,960 they 4477 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:12,970 fail 4478 01:00:12,970 --> 01:00:12,698 to 4479 01:00:12,698 --> 01:00:12,831 comply, they don't 4480 01:00:12,831 --> 01:00:13,231 meet 4481 01:00:13,231 --> 01:00:14,933 timelines 4482 01:00:14,933 --> 01:00:15,635 , they ignore us 4483 01:00:15,635 --> 01:00:15,901 . Then 4484 01:00:15,901 --> 01:00:16,868 we 4485 01:00:16,868 --> 01:00:17,102 call 4486 01:00:17,102 --> 01:00:17,369 it 4487 01:00:17,369 --> 01:00:17,803 the 4488 01:00:17,803 --> 01:00:18,871 uh Building 4489 01:00:18,871 --> 01:00:19,771 and 4490 01:00:19,771 --> 01:00:20,380 Standards Commission. They 4491 01:00:20,380 --> 01:00:21,607 get 4492 01:00:21,607 --> 01:00:21,873 notification for 4493 01:00:21,873 --> 01:00:22,107 that 4494 01:00:22,107 --> 01:00:22,608 hearing. 4495 01:00:22,608 --> 01:00:23,675 They can choose 4496 01:00:23,675 --> 01:00:23,909 to show 4497 01:00:23,909 --> 01:00:24,509 up 4498 01:00:24,509 --> 01:00:26,278 and 4499 01:00:26,278 --> 01:00:26,879 show 4500 01:00:26,879 --> 01:00:27,213 evidence contrary to my 4501 01:00:27,213 --> 01:00:28,180 claims 4502 01:00:28,180 --> 01:00:28,748 . That 4503 01:00:28,748 --> 01:00:29,982 it's not 4504 01:00:29,982 --> 01:00:30,482 a 4505 01:00:30,482 --> 01:00:31,160 dilapidated or 4506 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:31,416 dangerous 4507 01:00:31,416 --> 01:00:32,451 structure 4508 01:00:32,451 --> 01:00:32,818 , and 4509 01:00:32,818 --> 01:00:33,619 uh, the board 4510 01:00:33,619 --> 01:00:34,720 makes a decision at that point 4511 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:35,621 . 4512 01:00:35,621 --> 01:00:36,922 How to move forward with it 4513 01:00:36,922 --> 01:00:37,523 . 4514 01:00:37,523 --> 01:00:38,290 Now you talked about 4515 01:00:38,290 --> 01:00:39,859 , uh, about 4516 01:00:39,859 --> 01:00:39,964 notice here. I noticed in the 4517 01:00:39,964 --> 01:00:40,259 , 4518 01:00:40,259 --> 01:00:41,460 in the 4519 01:00:41,460 --> 01:00:41,727 section 4520 01:00:41,727 --> 01:00:41,893 about 4521 01:00:41,893 --> 01:00:42,628 notices 4522 01:00:42,628 --> 01:00:44,663 hearing. It talks about 4523 01:00:44,663 --> 01:00:45,197 uh 4524 01:00:45,197 --> 01:00:46,398 personal delivery 4525 01:00:46,398 --> 01:00:46,698 , certified 4526 01:00:46,698 --> 01:00:48,698 mail 4527 01:00:48,734 --> 01:00:49,368 , um, signature 4528 01:00:49,368 --> 01:00:49,902 confirmation service. There was 4529 01:00:49,902 --> 01:00:50,703 nothing in there 4530 01:00:50,703 --> 01:00:51,103 about 4531 01:00:51,103 --> 01:00:53,103 electronic 4532 01:00:53,105 --> 01:00:54,707 . Uh the service 4533 01:00:54,707 --> 01:00:55,575 . Uh 4534 01:00:55,575 --> 01:00:56,800 email or not found that to be 4535 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,409 standard 4536 01:00:57,409 --> 01:00:57,744 in 4537 01:00:57,744 --> 01:00:58,144 state law 4538 01:00:58,144 --> 01:00:58,645 . It's 4539 01:00:58,645 --> 01:00:59,578 always going to 4540 01:00:59,578 --> 01:00:59,878 be 4541 01:00:59,878 --> 01:01:00,313 male 4542 01:01:00,313 --> 01:01:00,679 or 4543 01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:01,915 posting 4544 01:01:01,915 --> 01:01:02,915 directly on the 4545 01:01:02,915 --> 01:01:04,650 property or personal, giving it 4546 01:01:04,650 --> 01:01:05,250 to them personally 4547 01:01:05,250 --> 01:01:06,510 . I've 4548 01:01:06,510 --> 01:01:07,190 never 4549 01:01:07,190 --> 01:01:09,210 seen anything with regards to 4550 01:01:09,210 --> 01:01:09,688 electronic notifications and 4551 01:01:09,688 --> 01:01:10,550 who would that, would that 4552 01:01:10,550 --> 01:01:10,990 service 4553 01:01:10,990 --> 01:01:11,323 be 4554 01:01:11,323 --> 01:01:11,590 done 4555 01:01:11,590 --> 01:01:11,957 by 4556 01:01:11,957 --> 01:01:12,524 a constable? 4557 01:01:12,524 --> 01:01:13,626 Would that service 4558 01:01:13,626 --> 01:01:14,493 be done by a 4559 01:01:14,493 --> 01:01:15,961 city official? Would the 4560 01:01:15,961 --> 01:01:16,395 service be 4561 01:01:16,395 --> 01:01:16,695 done 4562 01:01:16,695 --> 01:01:17,290 by a 4563 01:01:17,290 --> 01:01:18,297 private 4564 01:01:18,297 --> 01:01:18,665 process server? How would that 4565 01:01:18,665 --> 01:01:20,665 be done 4566 01:01:20,766 --> 01:01:21,267 ? Mail 4567 01:01:21,267 --> 01:01:22,535 obviously by mail 4568 01:01:22,535 --> 01:01:23,680 certified 4569 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:23,435 mail certified return 4570 01:01:23,435 --> 01:01:25,435 receipt 4571 01:01:25,738 --> 01:01:26,138 . Uh, signature 4572 01:01:26,138 --> 01:01:27,306 requested 4573 01:01:27,306 --> 01:01:28,730 , posting directly on 4574 01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:28,907 the property by myself or 4575 01:01:28,907 --> 01:01:29,241 one 4576 01:01:29,241 --> 01:01:30,420 of the 4577 01:01:30,420 --> 01:01:31,277 codeforcement officers 4578 01:01:31,277 --> 01:01:32,145 . 4579 01:01:32,145 --> 01:01:32,578 Hopefully by that time we've 4580 01:01:32,578 --> 01:01:33,512 identified 4581 01:01:33,512 --> 01:01:33,879 and 4582 01:01:33,879 --> 01:01:34,180 maybe 4583 01:01:34,180 --> 01:01:34,680 made 4584 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,182 contact 4585 01:01:36,182 --> 01:01:36,482 with the 4586 01:01:36,482 --> 01:01:36,950 individual, 4587 01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:38,217 the homeowner 4588 01:01:38,217 --> 01:01:38,651 . And 4589 01:01:38,651 --> 01:01:38,917 it 4590 01:01:38,917 --> 01:01:40,687 , it 4591 01:01:40,687 --> 01:01:40,954 doesn't have to be all three. 4592 01:01:40,954 --> 01:01:41,487 We 4593 01:01:41,487 --> 01:01:42,888 , we really 4594 01:01:42,888 --> 01:01:43,122 like it to be 4595 01:01:43,122 --> 01:01:43,489 . In 4596 01:01:43,489 --> 01:01:44,925 fact 4597 01:01:44,925 --> 01:01:45,257 , we always hit at 4598 01:01:45,257 --> 01:01:45,368 least 2 4599 01:01:45,368 --> 01:01:46,920 . 4600 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:47,660 It's always going to be mail 4601 01:01:47,660 --> 01:01:48,270 and we'll always post on the 4602 01:01:48,270 --> 01:01:49,428 property 4603 01:01:49,428 --> 01:01:49,662 . If 4604 01:01:49,662 --> 01:01:49,929 we 4605 01:01:49,929 --> 01:01:50,620 can 4606 01:01:50,620 --> 01:01:50,529 make 4607 01:01:50,529 --> 01:01:51,430 contact with 4608 01:01:51,430 --> 01:01:52,231 the individual, 4609 01:01:52,231 --> 01:01:52,832 we'll also give it to them 4610 01:01:52,832 --> 01:01:53,933 personally, but no 4611 01:01:53,933 --> 01:01:54,200 , it will not 4612 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:54,734 be 4613 01:01:54,734 --> 01:01:56,302 a constable or 4614 01:01:56,302 --> 01:01:57,103 sheriff or 4615 01:01:57,103 --> 01:01:57,803 police officer. It will be 4616 01:01:57,803 --> 01:01:59,710 ourselves. Ok 4617 01:01:59,710 --> 01:02:00,373 . So 4618 01:02:00,373 --> 01:02:01,207 if I 4619 01:02:01,207 --> 01:02:01,440 understand correctly 4620 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,420 the 4621 01:02:03,420 --> 01:02:04,100 initial steps of 4622 01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:04,911 um notifying 4623 01:02:04,911 --> 01:02:05,444 a 4624 01:02:05,444 --> 01:02:05,711 violation through 4625 01:02:05,711 --> 01:02:06,212 code 4626 01:02:06,212 --> 01:02:07,546 enforcement 4627 01:02:07,546 --> 01:02:08,800 will still occur 4628 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:08,782 and then this 4629 01:02:08,782 --> 01:02:09,749 is just that 4630 01:02:09,749 --> 01:02:10,449 then 4631 01:02:10,449 --> 01:02:10,983 this instead of going straight 4632 01:02:10,983 --> 01:02:12,118 to court, this is 4633 01:02:12,118 --> 01:02:12,552 the 4634 01:02:12,552 --> 01:02:13,286 intermediary 4635 01:02:13,286 --> 01:02:14,587 , the intermediate 4636 01:02:14,587 --> 01:02:15,121 step on that. This 4637 01:02:15,121 --> 01:02:15,755 is a last 4638 01:02:15,755 --> 01:02:16,389 resort. This is like 4639 01:02:16,389 --> 01:02:17,890 the 4640 01:02:17,890 --> 01:02:18,224 nuclear option, you 4641 01:02:18,224 --> 01:02:19,910 know 4642 01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:19,993 . Put 4643 01:02:19,993 --> 01:02:21,360 this on. From the moment they 4644 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:21,828 receive a 4645 01:02:21,828 --> 01:02:22,261 , uh, a notification 4646 01:02:22,261 --> 01:02:23,262 at the time 4647 01:02:23,262 --> 01:02:23,696 it 4648 01:02:23,696 --> 01:02:24,300 goes before 4649 01:02:24,300 --> 01:02:24,597 this 4650 01:02:24,597 --> 01:02:25,798 commission. What do 4651 01:02:25,798 --> 01:02:26,599 you 4652 01:02:26,599 --> 01:02:27,500 estimate that time frame to be 4653 01:02:27,500 --> 01:02:28,680 ? 4654 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:28,301 It varies based on 4655 01:02:28,301 --> 01:02:29,102 the 4656 01:02:29,102 --> 01:02:30,236 communication we're having 4657 01:02:30,236 --> 01:02:31,370 , 4658 01:02:31,370 --> 01:02:32,839 whether they're willing to work 4659 01:02:32,839 --> 01:02:33,720 with us 4660 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:33,606 on 4661 01:02:33,606 --> 01:02:33,973 average a lot of 4662 01:02:33,973 --> 01:02:34,708 nuance 4663 01:02:34,708 --> 01:02:35,410 to the 4664 01:02:35,410 --> 01:02:36,909 , the 4665 01:02:36,909 --> 01:02:37,677 time 4666 01:02:37,677 --> 01:02:38,144 limitation The limitation 4667 01:02:38,144 --> 01:02:38,578 initial, the 4668 01:02:38,578 --> 01:02:39,445 very first 4669 01:02:39,445 --> 01:02:40,146 , the 4670 01:02:40,146 --> 01:02:40,647 initial notice 4671 01:02:40,647 --> 01:02:41,148 of 4672 01:02:41,148 --> 01:02:41,848 violation 4673 01:02:41,848 --> 01:02:42,181 typically gives 4674 01:02:42,181 --> 01:02:42,415 10 4675 01:02:42,415 --> 01:02:42,749 to 4676 01:02:42,749 --> 01:02:44,317 15 days 4677 01:02:44,317 --> 01:02:44,651 to make contact with us 4678 01:02:44,651 --> 01:02:45,485 . Now 4679 01:02:45,485 --> 01:02:45,985 we 4680 01:02:45,985 --> 01:02:46,219 obviously know 4681 01:02:46,219 --> 01:02:46,453 you 4682 01:02:46,453 --> 01:02:47,200 cannot 4683 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:48,121 correct the entire 4684 01:02:48,121 --> 01:02:48,228 thing 4685 01:02:48,228 --> 01:02:49,890 in 4686 01:02:49,890 --> 01:02:50,823 that amount of time. It's just 4687 01:02:50,823 --> 01:02:52,625 get a hold of us 4688 01:02:52,625 --> 01:02:53,326 Let's start 4689 01:02:53,326 --> 01:02:53,693 working this out, see how we 4690 01:02:53,693 --> 01:02:54,861 can get 4691 01:02:54,861 --> 01:02:55,628 it fixed 4692 01:02:55,628 --> 01:02:57,597 . Now 4693 01:02:57,597 --> 01:02:57,897 that's 4694 01:02:57,897 --> 01:02:58,131 when 4695 01:02:58,131 --> 01:02:58,631 it 4696 01:02:58,631 --> 01:02:59,266 becomes nuanced at 4697 01:02:59,266 --> 01:02:59,999 that 4698 01:02:59,999 --> 01:03:00,366 point, whether they're working 4699 01:03:00,366 --> 01:03:01,768 with us 4700 01:03:01,768 --> 01:03:02,350 , whether 4701 01:03:02,350 --> 01:03:02,402 they're 4702 01:03:02,402 --> 01:03:02,835 ignoring 4703 01:03:02,835 --> 01:03:04,637 us, you know 4704 01:03:04,637 --> 01:03:05,400 . It's 4705 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,973 just not 4706 01:03:06,973 --> 01:03:07,206 something you 4707 01:03:07,206 --> 01:03:07,508 want to, 4708 01:03:07,508 --> 01:03:08,375 yeah 4709 01:03:08,375 --> 01:03:08,943 , I'm 4710 01:03:08,943 --> 01:03:09,375 thinking of the, the 4711 01:03:09,375 --> 01:03:10,710 house that 4712 01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:11,344 , uh, um 4713 01:03:11,344 --> 01:03:12,979 . Let's say 4714 01:03:12,979 --> 01:03:13,680 congressman 4715 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,147 , COUNCILMAN Mateer, 4716 01:03:14,147 --> 01:03:15,515 uh, mentioned 4717 01:03:15,515 --> 01:03:16,820 , uh, I think you 4718 01:03:16,820 --> 01:03:16,749 know which one he's talking 4719 01:03:16,749 --> 01:03:17,317 about. I don't want to 4720 01:03:17,317 --> 01:03:17,684 say it 4721 01:03:17,684 --> 01:03:18,251 out here 4722 01:03:18,251 --> 01:03:20,120 , but, um 4723 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:20,955 . Let's say 4724 01:03:20,955 --> 01:03:22,322 that that particular home 4725 01:03:22,322 --> 01:03:22,429 . You 4726 01:03:22,429 --> 01:03:22,890 , 4727 01:03:22,890 --> 01:03:24,225 you gave them 4728 01:03:24,225 --> 01:03:24,557 the 4729 01:03:24,557 --> 01:03:25,240 notification. 4730 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:26,759 We know that 4731 01:03:26,759 --> 01:03:27,930 that owner gave us 4732 01:03:27,930 --> 01:03:27,560 a lot 4733 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:28,728 of difficulty 4734 01:03:28,728 --> 01:03:29,429 . How long 4735 01:03:29,429 --> 01:03:29,829 do you think something like 4736 01:03:29,829 --> 01:03:30,897 that would 4737 01:03:30,897 --> 01:03:31,531 have taken before it 4738 01:03:31,531 --> 01:03:33,931 goes to the commission 4739 01:03:34,368 --> 01:03:35,368 . We'll 4740 01:03:35,368 --> 01:03:36,302 do 4741 01:03:36,302 --> 01:03:37,470 first-round notifications 4742 01:03:37,470 --> 01:03:38,138 . 4743 01:03:38,138 --> 01:03:38,405 They're just ignoring us 4744 01:03:38,405 --> 01:03:39,500 . We'll 4745 01:03:39,500 --> 01:03:40,600 try again. We'll do 4746 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:40,206 a 2nd 4747 01:03:40,206 --> 01:03:40,607 round 4748 01:03:40,607 --> 01:03:41,141 We'll do 4749 01:03:41,141 --> 01:03:42,175 another posting on 4750 01:03:42,175 --> 01:03:42,742 the 4751 01:03:42,742 --> 01:03:43,760 property. We keep 4752 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:43,743 trying to 4753 01:03:43,743 --> 01:03:44,978 track them down 4754 01:03:44,978 --> 01:03:45,278 , maybe 4755 01:03:45,278 --> 01:03:45,386 3 or 4756 01:03:45,386 --> 01:03:45,746 4 4757 01:03:45,746 --> 01:03:46,913 months 4758 01:03:46,913 --> 01:03:47,314 . Ok 4759 01:03:47,314 --> 01:03:47,714 . That's 4760 01:03:47,714 --> 01:03:47,827 more like 4761 01:03:47,827 --> 01:03:48,480 a 4762 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:48,381 90 4763 01:03:48,381 --> 01:03:49,249 day thing 4764 01:03:49,249 --> 01:03:49,395 instead of 4765 01:03:49,395 --> 01:03:49,649 a 4766 01:03:49,649 --> 01:03:50,283 3-year 4767 01:03:50,283 --> 01:03:50,750 thing. I just want to be 4768 01:03:50,750 --> 01:03:52,385 able to give 4769 01:03:52,385 --> 01:03:52,652 , uh, the 4770 01:03:52,652 --> 01:03:53,286 appli or 4771 01:03:53,286 --> 01:03:53,920 the, uh, I wanna 4772 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,122 make sure 4773 01:03:55,122 --> 01:03:55,589 they've got plenty of time 4774 01:03:55,589 --> 01:03:56,256 to 4775 01:03:56,256 --> 01:03:56,524 even come talk to 4776 01:03:56,524 --> 01:03:57,490 us 4777 01:03:57,490 --> 01:03:58,158 and 4778 01:03:58,158 --> 01:03:58,492 and 4779 01:03:58,492 --> 01:03:58,825 state 4780 01:03:58,825 --> 01:03:59,259 their case 4781 01:03:59,259 --> 01:03:59,559 and everything 4782 01:03:59,559 --> 01:03:59,960 else 4783 01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:00,760 . So that 4784 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:01,270 . That 4785 01:04:01,270 --> 01:04:01,528 sounds fair 4786 01:04:01,528 --> 01:04:02,596 to me. One of 4787 01:04:02,596 --> 01:04:03,296 the other things 4788 01:04:03,296 --> 01:04:03,530 about noticing here, you've got 4789 01:04:03,530 --> 01:04:05,265 a 4790 01:04:05,265 --> 01:04:05,699 , a requirement that the 4791 01:04:05,699 --> 01:04:07,000 notice be 4792 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:07,567 published in a 4793 01:04:07,567 --> 01:04:07,834 newspaper of 4794 01:04:07,834 --> 01:04:08,268 general 4795 01:04:08,268 --> 01:04:09,102 circulation 4796 01:04:09,102 --> 01:04:09,736 in 4797 01:04:09,736 --> 01:04:10,204 the 4798 01:04:10,204 --> 01:04:10,504 municipality 4799 01:04:10,504 --> 01:04:11,605 Um 4800 01:04:11,605 --> 01:04:11,872 , I mean 4801 01:04:11,872 --> 01:04:13,872 , those 4802 01:04:14,341 --> 01:04:14,708 , uh, that 4803 01:04:14,708 --> 01:04:15,109 kind 4804 01:04:15,109 --> 01:04:15,576 of language 4805 01:04:15,576 --> 01:04:15,742 and statutes 4806 01:04:15,742 --> 01:04:16,343 . 4807 01:04:16,343 --> 01:04:16,610 You know, goes back 4808 01:04:16,610 --> 01:04:16,877 to 4809 01:04:16,877 --> 01:04:18,780 the 4810 01:04:18,780 --> 01:04:18,712 18th 4811 01:04:18,712 --> 01:04:19,120 century, uh, and 4812 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:19,279 it was, you 4813 01:04:19,279 --> 01:04:21,279 know 4814 01:04:21,381 --> 01:04:21,782 , a reasonable thing to do 4815 01:04:21,782 --> 01:04:23,160 in a time 4816 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:23,517 when the only way to 4817 01:04:23,517 --> 01:04:25,218 get notice to 4818 01:04:25,218 --> 01:04:25,619 people was public 4819 01:04:25,619 --> 01:04:26,860 notice was 4820 01:04:26,860 --> 01:04:26,386 through newspapers, 4821 01:04:26,386 --> 01:04:28,121 but 4822 01:04:28,121 --> 01:04:29,523 um I'm 4823 01:04:29,523 --> 01:04:29,823 wondering is 4824 01:04:29,823 --> 01:04:30,390 , is 4825 01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:31,558 that required 4826 01:04:31,558 --> 01:04:31,692 by the 4827 01:04:31,692 --> 01:04:32,426 state 4828 01:04:32,426 --> 01:04:32,893 statute that you have to have 4829 01:04:32,893 --> 01:04:33,861 that newspaper 4830 01:04:33,861 --> 01:04:34,940 notice 4831 01:04:34,940 --> 01:04:34,261 ? You 4832 01:04:34,261 --> 01:04:35,950 , you 4833 01:04:35,950 --> 01:04:36,290 know, you know the answer 4834 01:04:36,290 --> 01:04:36,797 to 4835 01:04:36,797 --> 01:04:36,997 that. Well, I was, I was 4836 01:04:36,997 --> 01:04:37,297 hoping 4837 01:04:37,297 --> 01:04:39,233 that 4838 01:04:39,233 --> 01:04:39,599 the legislature has moved 4839 01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:39,933 into 4840 01:04:39,933 --> 01:04:41,168 the 21st 4841 01:04:41,168 --> 01:04:41,735 century. You, you 4842 01:04:41,735 --> 01:04:42,690 you know, you know 4843 01:04:42,690 --> 01:04:43,437 our 4844 01:04:43,437 --> 01:04:43,737 legislatures still have 4845 01:04:43,737 --> 01:04:44,205 not 4846 01:04:44,205 --> 01:04:45,572 changed that 4847 01:04:45,572 --> 01:04:45,940 . So 4848 01:04:45,940 --> 01:04:47,940 , uh, I'm 4849 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:48,308 wondering if it might be 4850 01:04:48,308 --> 01:04:48,412 also 4851 01:04:48,412 --> 01:04:48,742 , 4852 01:04:48,742 --> 01:04:50,310 I mean 4853 01:04:50,310 --> 01:04:50,844 , more realistic because 4854 01:04:50,844 --> 01:04:52,113 nobody reads 4855 01:04:52,113 --> 01:04:52,613 newspapers 4856 01:04:52,613 --> 01:04:53,130 anymore 4857 01:04:53,130 --> 01:04:54,114 uh, to 4858 01:04:54,114 --> 01:04:54,381 have 4859 01:04:54,381 --> 01:04:54,882 a 4860 01:04:54,882 --> 01:04:55,182 requirement to to 4861 01:04:55,182 --> 01:04:55,616 put 4862 01:04:55,616 --> 01:04:56,617 a notice about 4863 01:04:56,617 --> 01:04:57,850 this kind 4864 01:04:57,850 --> 01:04:57,518 of 4865 01:04:57,518 --> 01:04:57,918 thing on 4866 01:04:57,918 --> 01:04:59,860 the 4867 01:04:59,860 --> 01:04:59,486 city 4868 01:04:59,486 --> 01:05:00,530 website 4869 01:05:00,530 --> 01:05:00,855 , uh, 4870 01:05:00,855 --> 01:05:01,622 because that, I think, is 4871 01:05:01,622 --> 01:05:02,623 much 4872 01:05:02,623 --> 01:05:03,725 more likely for people to 4873 01:05:03,725 --> 01:05:04,358 , to 4874 01:05:04,358 --> 01:05:05,126 , 4875 01:05:05,126 --> 01:05:05,626 uh, to find out what's the 4876 01:05:05,626 --> 01:05:06,593 city 4877 01:05:06,593 --> 01:05:07,461 doing? Well, we'll just go to 4878 01:05:07,461 --> 01:05:07,761 the city website to find out 4879 01:05:07,761 --> 01:05:08,262 what 4880 01:05:08,262 --> 01:05:09,329 the 4881 01:05:09,329 --> 01:05:09,630 city's doing 4882 01:05:09,630 --> 01:05:10,497 , rather 4883 01:05:10,497 --> 01:05:11,310 than 4884 01:05:11,310 --> 01:05:11,465 a newspaper 4885 01:05:11,465 --> 01:05:11,699 . I mean 4886 01:05:11,699 --> 01:05:11,999 , 4887 01:05:11,999 --> 01:05:12,366 what's 4888 01:05:12,366 --> 01:05:12,900 up, you 4889 01:05:12,900 --> 01:05:13,233 know, kids 4890 01:05:13,233 --> 01:05:13,901 today 4891 01:05:13,901 --> 01:05:14,268 they don't know what 4892 01:05:14,268 --> 01:05:15,200 a 4893 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:15,769 newspaper is 4894 01:05:15,769 --> 01:05:16,300 . Um 4895 01:05:16,300 --> 01:05:16,303 , they'd be 4896 01:05:16,303 --> 01:05:17,400 more 4897 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:17,237 of 4898 01:05:17,237 --> 01:05:17,638 a 4899 01:05:17,638 --> 01:05:18,272 policy decision. I 4900 01:05:18,272 --> 01:05:19,206 don't know if there's 4901 01:05:19,206 --> 01:05:19,310 , well 4902 01:05:19,310 --> 01:05:19,973 , 4903 01:05:19,973 --> 01:05:21,743 should that be part of 4904 01:05:21,743 --> 01:05:21,943 the 4905 01:05:21,943 --> 01:05:22,276 this 4906 01:05:22,276 --> 01:05:22,643 uh of 4907 01:05:22,643 --> 01:05:23,143 this 4908 01:05:23,143 --> 01:05:23,944 notice section 4909 01:05:23,944 --> 01:05:24,478 . I 4910 01:05:24,478 --> 01:05:25,879 mean, that is a 4911 01:05:25,879 --> 01:05:26,613 policy question 4912 01:05:26,613 --> 01:05:28,820 I would, I would ask uh who 4913 01:05:28,820 --> 01:05:28,415 the 4914 01:05:28,415 --> 01:05:29,283 intended 4915 01:05:29,283 --> 01:05:29,583 , uh, recipient, uh, 4916 01:05:29,583 --> 01:05:31,385 the 4917 01:05:31,385 --> 01:05:32,920 , the intended audience of 4918 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:33,888 that 4919 01:05:33,888 --> 01:05:35,522 hosting is because I think 4920 01:05:35,522 --> 01:05:36,230 the purpose of 4921 01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:36,725 the newspaper 4922 01:05:36,725 --> 01:05:37,325 posting is 4923 01:05:37,325 --> 01:05:37,791 once 4924 01:05:37,791 --> 01:05:38,125 again, you know 4925 01:05:38,125 --> 01:05:38,792 noticed 4926 01:05:38,792 --> 01:05:40,294 by publication 4927 01:05:40,294 --> 01:05:40,662 . Trying 4928 01:05:40,662 --> 01:05:41,595 to reach 4929 01:05:41,595 --> 01:05:41,929 the 4930 01:05:41,929 --> 01:05:42,396 owner 4931 01:05:42,396 --> 01:05:42,663 of 4932 01:05:42,663 --> 01:05:44,663 that 4933 01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:46,500 nuisance. And I don't know that 4934 01:05:46,500 --> 01:05:47,168 it 4935 01:05:47,168 --> 01:05:48,936 really makes a, I don't know 4936 01:05:48,936 --> 01:05:49,203 that the owner of 4937 01:05:49,203 --> 01:05:49,904 the nuisance 4938 01:05:49,904 --> 01:05:50,604 is going to notice it on 4939 01:05:50,604 --> 01:05:51,405 the 4940 01:05:51,405 --> 01:05:53,240 website and not the 4941 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:53,508 . Newspaper. 4942 01:05:53,508 --> 01:05:53,841 No 4943 01:05:53,841 --> 01:05:55,710 , but the 4944 01:05:55,710 --> 01:05:56,410 , uh, nobody's going 4945 01:05:56,410 --> 01:05:58,312 to see it in the newspaper 4946 01:05:58,312 --> 01:05:58,779 , and 4947 01:05:58,779 --> 01:05:59,780 uh you know 4948 01:05:59,780 --> 01:06:00,181 , maybe 4949 01:06:00,181 --> 01:06:00,448 one of the 4950 01:06:00,448 --> 01:06:00,748 , 4951 01:06:00,748 --> 01:06:01,849 the 4952 01:06:01,849 --> 01:06:02,149 , the 4953 01:06:02,149 --> 01:06:02,483 owners 4954 01:06:02,483 --> 01:06:02,616 of 4955 01:06:02,616 --> 01:06:03,184 that 4956 01:06:03,184 --> 01:06:04,418 nuisance. You know 4957 01:06:04,418 --> 01:06:04,886 , has a, a 4958 01:06:04,886 --> 01:06:05,286 friend or 4959 01:06:05,286 --> 01:06:06,887 relative who 4960 01:06:06,887 --> 01:06:07,154 you 4961 01:06:07,154 --> 01:06:07,555 know 4962 01:06:07,555 --> 01:06:08,622 lives in 4963 01:06:08,622 --> 01:06:08,823 town and 4964 01:06:08,823 --> 01:06:09,124 might and 4965 01:06:09,124 --> 01:06:09,623 says 4966 01:06:09,623 --> 01:06:10,925 , Hey, look at 4967 01:06:10,925 --> 01:06:11,526 the 4968 01:06:11,526 --> 01:06:12,930 and say, 4969 01:06:12,930 --> 01:06:13,395 hey. I think 4970 01:06:13,395 --> 01:06:14,162 they're both going 4971 01:06:14,162 --> 01:06:14,528 to be obscure like because 4972 01:06:14,528 --> 01:06:15,897 where 4973 01:06:15,897 --> 01:06:16,363 would you put it 4974 01:06:16,363 --> 01:06:16,470 on the 4975 01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:16,797 , 4976 01:06:16,797 --> 01:06:17,865 I think 4977 01:06:17,865 --> 01:06:18,990 we conform 4978 01:06:18,990 --> 01:06:18,366 to 4979 01:06:18,366 --> 01:06:19,166 this, 4980 01:06:19,166 --> 01:06:20,670 yeah, I was like, I mean 4981 01:06:20,670 --> 01:06:20,668 , 4982 01:06:20,668 --> 01:06:21,680 conform to the set 4983 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:21,635 and I feel 4984 01:06:21,635 --> 01:06:22,690 like we've had this 4985 01:06:22,690 --> 01:06:22,637 conversation 4986 01:06:22,637 --> 01:06:22,870 where then we have 4987 01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:23,304 a 4988 01:06:23,304 --> 01:06:24,538 debate about 4989 01:06:24,538 --> 01:06:25,373 the 4990 01:06:25,373 --> 01:06:25,640 radio versus 4991 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:26,842 yeah 4992 01:06:26,842 --> 01:06:27,274 , it 4993 01:06:27,274 --> 01:06:27,742 was 4994 01:06:27,742 --> 01:06:28,609 feel 4995 01:06:28,609 --> 01:06:29,577 well 4996 01:06:29,577 --> 01:06:29,845 , this 4997 01:06:29,845 --> 01:06:30,244 also 4998 01:06:30,244 --> 01:06:30,645 does say 4999 01:06:30,645 --> 01:06:31,579 if 5000 01:06:31,579 --> 01:06:32,580 personal 5001 01:06:32,580 --> 01:06:33,414 service cannot be obtained 5002 01:06:33,414 --> 01:06:33,948 . So 5003 01:06:33,948 --> 01:06:34,348 this 5004 01:06:34,348 --> 01:06:34,849 was 5005 01:06:34,849 --> 01:06:35,349 only 5006 01:06:35,349 --> 01:06:36,350 Yeah 5007 01:06:36,350 --> 01:06:36,784 , we 5008 01:06:36,784 --> 01:06:37,118 , so 5009 01:06:37,118 --> 01:06:37,752 Robert 5010 01:06:37,752 --> 01:06:38,519 , you, you feel 5011 01:06:38,519 --> 01:06:38,635 comfortable in, in, in this 5012 01:06:38,635 --> 01:06:39,200 , in 5013 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,200 this, the 5014 01:06:41,322 --> 01:06:41,923 language that's being 5015 01:06:41,923 --> 01:06:42,223 proposed right now, correct? 5016 01:06:42,223 --> 01:06:42,925 The 5017 01:06:42,925 --> 01:06:43,624 general newspaper 5018 01:06:43,624 --> 01:06:44,659 requirement is and 5019 01:06:44,659 --> 01:06:45,426 that's 5020 01:06:45,426 --> 01:06:46,194 mandatory regardless of what 5021 01:06:46,194 --> 01:06:46,894 their services is obtained 5022 01:06:46,894 --> 01:06:47,328 in 5023 01:06:47,328 --> 01:06:47,728 another way 5024 01:06:47,728 --> 01:06:48,129 . And 5025 01:06:48,129 --> 01:06:49,330 , and also 5026 01:06:49,330 --> 01:06:50,980 to 5027 01:06:50,980 --> 01:06:50,564 be 5028 01:06:50,564 --> 01:06:50,998 clear that 5029 01:06:50,998 --> 01:06:51,933 you went ahead 5030 01:06:51,933 --> 01:06:52,567 and you looked at what 5031 01:06:52,567 --> 01:06:53,167 the 5032 01:06:53,167 --> 01:06:54,135 industry 5033 01:06:54,135 --> 01:06:54,802 requirements were, 5034 01:06:54,802 --> 01:06:55,103 what they were looking at, what 5035 01:06:55,103 --> 01:06:56,137 the 5036 01:06:56,137 --> 01:06:56,537 , you know 5037 01:06:56,537 --> 01:06:57,638 , regarding 5038 01:06:57,638 --> 01:06:59,400 the 5039 01:06:59,400 --> 01:06:59,540 applicable conditions here and 5040 01:06:59,540 --> 01:07:00,274 give it 5041 01:07:00,274 --> 01:07:00,908 enough 5042 01:07:00,908 --> 01:07:01,676 time deviation 5043 01:07:01,676 --> 01:07:02,143 because you want to make 5044 01:07:02,143 --> 01:07:03,145 sure 5045 01:07:03,145 --> 01:07:03,511 that they 5046 01:07:03,511 --> 01:07:04,780 do have 5047 01:07:04,780 --> 01:07:04,645 due process 5048 01:07:04,645 --> 01:07:05,480 if possible 5049 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:05,913 , correct 5050 01:07:05,913 --> 01:07:06,481 ? If i 5051 01:07:06,481 --> 01:07:07,480 recall 5052 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:07,848 correctly, you're 5053 01:07:07,848 --> 01:07:08,316 also, 5054 01:07:08,316 --> 01:07:08,750 isn't there a 5055 01:07:08,750 --> 01:07:09,785 licensure where 5056 01:07:09,785 --> 01:07:10,218 you're one of 900 5057 01:07:10,218 --> 01:07:10,752 people in the 5058 01:07:10,752 --> 01:07:11,786 entire world 5059 01:07:11,786 --> 01:07:12,530 has 5060 01:07:12,530 --> 01:07:12,287 a 5061 01:07:12,287 --> 01:07:12,820 license 5062 01:07:12,820 --> 01:07:14,289 regarding, um, is 5063 01:07:14,289 --> 01:07:14,555 it 5064 01:07:14,555 --> 01:07:15,256 building 5065 01:07:15,256 --> 01:07:15,590 expertise or what is it exactly 5066 01:07:15,590 --> 01:07:16,558 ? Uh 5067 01:07:16,558 --> 01:07:16,958 master 5068 01:07:16,958 --> 01:07:17,225 code professional. 5069 01:07:17,225 --> 01:07:17,526 Ok 5070 01:07:17,526 --> 01:07:19,930 , master 5071 01:07:19,930 --> 01:07:20,328 . So 100 in the 5072 01:07:20,328 --> 01:07:21,396 entire world. Did you, did 5073 01:07:21,396 --> 01:07:21,963 you 5074 01:07:21,963 --> 01:07:22,263 recently teach a 5075 01:07:22,263 --> 01:07:22,797 class 5076 01:07:22,797 --> 01:07:23,640 on this 5077 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:24,320 ? 5078 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,700 I taught a class, no, I was 5079 01:07:25,700 --> 01:07:25,934 teaching yesterday 5080 01:07:25,934 --> 01:07:26,135 in 5081 01:07:26,135 --> 01:07:26,501 Houston 5082 01:07:26,501 --> 01:07:27,669 on some 5083 01:07:27,669 --> 01:07:28,237 other 5084 01:07:28,237 --> 01:07:28,837 code issues but 5085 01:07:28,837 --> 01:07:29,938 uh so you teach 5086 01:07:29,938 --> 01:07:30,338 about code 5087 01:07:30,338 --> 01:07:31,390 issues and 5088 01:07:31,390 --> 01:07:32,400 code enforcement for 5089 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:32,507 other 5090 01:07:32,507 --> 01:07:32,941 people. Correct 5091 01:07:32,941 --> 01:07:33,480 , that's 5092 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:33,408 , 5093 01:07:33,408 --> 01:07:34,609 I've been 5094 01:07:34,609 --> 01:07:34,776 at Codenport 5095 01:07:34,776 --> 01:07:35,209 . That's 5096 01:07:35,209 --> 01:07:35,710 how I got 5097 01:07:35,710 --> 01:07:36,678 involved in 5098 01:07:36,678 --> 01:07:37,378 uh 5099 01:07:37,378 --> 01:07:37,679 municipal government. I was 5100 01:07:37,679 --> 01:07:38,213 code 5101 01:07:38,213 --> 01:07:39,130 enforcement officer 5102 01:07:39,130 --> 01:07:39,247 first 5103 01:07:39,247 --> 01:07:39,948 . 5104 01:07:39,948 --> 01:07:40,215 I've been, I've been a 5105 01:07:40,215 --> 01:07:40,949 code 5106 01:07:40,949 --> 01:07:41,249 enforcement officer 5107 01:07:41,249 --> 01:07:41,649 for 5108 01:07:41,649 --> 01:07:42,785 18 5109 01:07:42,785 --> 01:07:43,251 years. Oh 5110 01:07:43,251 --> 01:07:43,585 , yeah. All right. 5111 01:07:43,585 --> 01:07:43,818 Mayor 5112 01:07:43,818 --> 01:07:44,652 , I 5113 01:07:44,652 --> 01:07:46,220 feel comfortable about 5114 01:07:46,220 --> 01:07:46,588 the difference. So to 5115 01:07:46,588 --> 01:07:46,921 , uh, to 5116 01:07:46,921 --> 01:07:47,255 remind 5117 01:07:47,255 --> 01:07:48,724 the public 5118 01:07:48,724 --> 01:07:49,991 this is a 5119 01:07:49,991 --> 01:07:50,625 public hearing on 5120 01:07:50,625 --> 01:07:51,192 the creation 5121 01:07:51,192 --> 01:07:51,526 of the building 5122 01:07:51,526 --> 01:07:52,600 and 5123 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:52,760 Standards 5124 01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:53,940 Commission, and I would ask 5125 01:07:53,940 --> 01:07:54,950 if 5126 01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:55,163 there's anyone in the public 5127 01:07:55,163 --> 01:07:55,463 wishing to make comment on 5128 01:07:55,463 --> 01:07:55,931 this 5129 01:07:55,931 --> 01:07:57,931 particular item 5130 01:07:59,500 --> 01:08:00,100 . There are most 5131 01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:01,303 you could post 5132 01:08:01,303 --> 01:08:01,603 public comment 5133 01:08:01,603 --> 01:08:02,103 . 5134 01:08:02,103 --> 01:08:03,405 I have a motion 5135 01:08:03,405 --> 01:08:04,720 from Caesar and 5136 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:04,539 a second from Kim and Rudy at 5137 01:08:04,539 --> 01:08:06,539 the same time 5138 01:08:06,641 --> 01:08:07,420 . Let 5139 01:08:07,420 --> 01:08:09,420 you choose 5140 01:08:10,879 --> 01:08:12,879 Kim 5141 01:08:17,986 --> 01:08:18,353 . That 5142 01:08:18,353 --> 01:08:19,870 closes the 5143 01:08:19,870 --> 01:08:19,821 public 5144 01:08:19,821 --> 01:08:20,622 hearing. Motion to put 7a is 5145 01:08:20,622 --> 01:08:24,222 presented. So I have a question 5146 01:08:25,260 --> 01:08:26,361 Um, I have a motion. Did I have 5147 01:08:26,361 --> 01:08:26,761 a second? I 5148 01:08:26,761 --> 01:08:27,228 , I did, yeah. All 5149 01:08:27,228 --> 01:08:28,330 right, I have 5150 01:08:28,330 --> 01:08:29,300 a motion from 5151 01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:29,365 Rudy and second from 5152 01:08:29,365 --> 01:08:31,300 Jonathan 5153 01:08:31,300 --> 01:08:32,101 further 5154 01:08:32,101 --> 01:08:32,367 discussion. Um, back 5155 01:08:32,367 --> 01:08:33,101 to 5156 01:08:33,101 --> 01:08:33,368 the 5157 01:08:33,368 --> 01:08:34,300 item 5158 01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:35,137 under 5159 01:08:35,137 --> 01:08:35,570 92.17 rules 5160 01:08:35,570 --> 01:08:36,370 of 5161 01:08:36,370 --> 01:08:36,538 procedure about 5162 01:08:36,538 --> 01:08:37,906 the failure 5163 01:08:37,906 --> 01:08:38,206 to 5164 01:08:38,206 --> 01:08:38,740 vote 5165 01:08:38,740 --> 01:08:39,775 . Um 5166 01:08:39,775 --> 01:08:40,208 , are we 5167 01:08:40,208 --> 01:08:40,876 saying that 5168 01:08:40,876 --> 01:08:42,378 this 5169 01:08:42,378 --> 01:08:43,412 commission someone could 5170 01:08:43,412 --> 01:08:43,679 abstain for a reason other 5171 01:08:43,679 --> 01:08:44,546 than 5172 01:08:44,546 --> 01:08:46,546 conflict of interest 5173 01:08:53,555 --> 01:08:54,560 . Robert, 5174 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:55,323 can you, can you 5175 01:08:55,323 --> 01:08:55,857 clarify for me 5176 01:08:55,857 --> 01:08:57,692 ? So we've got a 5177 01:08:57,692 --> 01:08:57,826 uh a 4 out 5178 01:08:57,826 --> 01:08:58,493 of 5179 01:08:58,493 --> 01:09:00,493 5 required for quorum 5180 01:09:00,963 --> 01:09:01,690 . If 4 5181 01:09:01,690 --> 01:09:01,396 of 5182 01:09:01,396 --> 01:09:02,650 those 5183 01:09:02,650 --> 01:09:02,565 show up 5184 01:09:02,565 --> 01:09:02,998 , then 3 are 5185 01:09:02,998 --> 01:09:04,366 required in 5186 01:09:04,366 --> 01:09:04,633 order 5187 01:09:04,633 --> 01:09:04,800 to 5188 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:05,267 pass 5189 01:09:05,267 --> 01:09:07,267 something. Um 5190 01:09:09,871 --> 01:09:10,973 . Right. And one 5191 01:09:10,973 --> 01:09:11,473 of 5192 01:09:11,473 --> 01:09:11,907 them 5193 01:09:11,907 --> 01:09:12,274 outstands because we're 5194 01:09:12,274 --> 01:09:14,760 talking 5195 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:14,676 about 92.17 rules of 5196 01:09:14,676 --> 01:09:16,111 procedure. Yeah, the 5197 01:09:16,111 --> 01:09:16,712 , the final 5198 01:09:16,712 --> 01:09:18,113 I read it, it's not 5199 01:09:18,113 --> 01:09:18,947 that they 5200 01:09:18,947 --> 01:09:20,582 it's just 5201 01:09:20,582 --> 01:09:21,216 the minutes of the 5202 01:09:21,216 --> 01:09:22,451 meetings are public 5203 01:09:22,451 --> 01:09:22,951 records of 5204 01:09:22,951 --> 01:09:23,318 the building and 5205 01:09:23,318 --> 01:09:25,153 Standards 5206 01:09:25,153 --> 01:09:25,387 Commission's examinations 5207 01:09:25,387 --> 01:09:25,855 , 5208 01:09:25,855 --> 01:09:26,822 official actions 5209 01:09:26,822 --> 01:09:27,356 , and 5210 01:09:27,356 --> 01:09:27,790 other 5211 01:09:27,790 --> 01:09:28,900 proceedings 5212 01:09:28,900 --> 01:09:29,391 , and 5213 01:09:29,391 --> 01:09:29,725 shall reflect 5214 01:09:29,725 --> 01:09:30,492 each 5215 01:09:30,492 --> 01:09:31,360 member's vote 5216 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:31,827 , absence 5217 01:09:31,827 --> 01:09:32,394 , or 5218 01:09:32,394 --> 01:09:32,595 failure to vote on 5219 01:09:32,595 --> 01:09:32,961 each 5220 01:09:32,961 --> 01:09:33,796 question 5221 01:09:33,796 --> 01:09:34,162 . It's not saying you 5222 01:09:34,162 --> 01:09:34,664 have to 5223 01:09:34,664 --> 01:09:35,931 vote 5224 01:09:35,931 --> 01:09:36,665 . It's just saying 5225 01:09:36,665 --> 01:09:38,367 that the minutes are going to 5226 01:09:38,367 --> 01:09:39,201 reflect whatever that member 5227 01:09:39,201 --> 01:09:40,903 did. It's not saying they 5228 01:09:40,903 --> 01:09:41,270 had 5229 01:09:41,270 --> 01:09:41,905 to 5230 01:09:41,905 --> 01:09:43,500 , but yeah 5231 01:09:43,500 --> 01:09:43,206 , typically our 5232 01:09:43,206 --> 01:09:43,772 , 5233 01:09:43,772 --> 01:09:44,173 our statutory 5234 01:09:44,173 --> 01:09:45,541 requirement is 5235 01:09:45,541 --> 01:09:45,808 that 5236 01:09:45,808 --> 01:09:46,420 you 5237 01:09:46,420 --> 01:09:46,576 , we 5238 01:09:46,576 --> 01:09:46,976 don't abstain 5239 01:09:46,976 --> 01:09:47,943 , but 5240 01:09:47,943 --> 01:09:48,477 if you happen to step away, we 5241 01:09:48,477 --> 01:09:49,678 had a couple 5242 01:09:49,678 --> 01:09:49,945 of folks away from 5243 01:09:49,945 --> 01:09:50,746 the 5244 01:09:50,746 --> 01:09:51,915 , the dais when 5245 01:09:51,915 --> 01:09:52,581 , uh, when we 5246 01:09:52,581 --> 01:09:52,948 took a vote, I would 5247 01:09:52,948 --> 01:09:53,916 imagine 5248 01:09:53,916 --> 01:09:54,383 the 5249 01:09:54,383 --> 01:09:54,839 minutes would 5250 01:09:54,839 --> 01:09:55,840 reflect 5251 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:55,718 that 5252 01:09:55,718 --> 01:09:56,719 they were not 5253 01:09:56,719 --> 01:09:57,152 in their seat at 5254 01:09:57,152 --> 01:09:57,820 the time 5255 01:09:57,820 --> 01:09:58,187 , as opposed 5256 01:09:58,187 --> 01:09:58,555 to 5257 01:09:58,555 --> 01:09:59,355 absinthe 5258 01:09:59,355 --> 01:09:59,621 . Whether that's the 5259 01:09:59,621 --> 01:10:00,489 same 5260 01:10:00,489 --> 01:10:01,123 thing 5261 01:10:01,123 --> 01:10:01,824 . Our attorney, well, 5262 01:10:01,824 --> 01:10:03,125 I think that's why you have 5263 01:10:03,125 --> 01:10:03,859 the 5264 01:10:03,859 --> 01:10:05,600 alternates right here 5265 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:05,728 , is that 5266 01:10:05,728 --> 01:10:06,362 you're going to have a lot 5267 01:10:06,362 --> 01:10:07,229 enough time to figure 5268 01:10:07,229 --> 01:10:07,596 out who's 5269 01:10:07,596 --> 01:10:08,130 got a 5270 01:10:08,130 --> 01:10:08,697 conflict and and if that 5271 01:10:08,697 --> 01:10:09,598 person's got a complic 5272 01:10:09,598 --> 01:10:10,232 , they're 5273 01:10:10,232 --> 01:10:10,967 not going to show up for the 5274 01:10:10,967 --> 01:10:12,100 meeting. It's it's going to 5275 01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:12,468 be 5276 01:10:12,468 --> 01:10:12,968 probably one 5277 01:10:12,968 --> 01:10:13,502 item and you're 5278 01:10:13,502 --> 01:10:14,436 going to get an 5279 01:10:14,436 --> 01:10:14,803 alternate in 5280 01:10:14,803 --> 01:10:15,405 there 5281 01:10:15,405 --> 01:10:16,238 . Excellent. All right, 5282 01:10:16,238 --> 01:10:17,106 feel comfortable with that 5283 01:10:17,106 --> 01:10:17,473 . All 5284 01:10:17,473 --> 01:10:19,473 right 5285 01:10:26,682 --> 01:10:28,117 . Uh 5286 01:10:28,117 --> 01:10:28,385 , motion 5287 01:10:28,385 --> 01:10:28,717 passes 61. 5288 01:10:28,717 --> 01:10:30,253 Thanks 5289 01:10:30,253 --> 01:10:30,686 , Robert. Thanks. Well, 5290 01:10:30,686 --> 01:10:31,187 Robert's not 5291 01:10:31,187 --> 01:10:32,722 done though. I 5292 01:10:32,722 --> 01:10:33,389 don't know if you want to take 5293 01:10:33,389 --> 01:10:34,723 a seat while I read this 5294 01:10:34,723 --> 01:10:34,839 . Uh 5295 01:10:34,839 --> 01:10:35,458 , 5296 01:10:35,458 --> 01:10:35,758 conduct a public hearing. This 5297 01:10:35,758 --> 01:10:37,758 is 5298 01:10:37,860 --> 01:10:38,495 item 7b. Conduct a public 5299 01:10:38,495 --> 01:10:38,761 hearing and consider approving 5300 01:10:38,761 --> 01:10:39,428 an 5301 01:10:39,428 --> 01:10:39,929 ordinance on first reading 5302 01:10:39,929 --> 01:10:40,296 with caption reading an 5303 01:10:40,296 --> 01:10:41,464 ordinance 5304 01:10:41,464 --> 01:10:42,164 of the city of 5305 01:10:42,164 --> 01:10:43,633 Flugerville, Texas 5306 01:10:43,633 --> 01:10:44,300 , adopting 5307 01:10:44,300 --> 01:10:44,467 regulations related to 5308 01:10:44,467 --> 01:10:44,935 junked 5309 01:10:44,935 --> 01:10:46,350 vehicles as a 5310 01:10:46,350 --> 01:10:46,435 public 5311 01:10:46,435 --> 01:10:46,541 nuisance 5312 01:10:46,541 --> 01:10:47,370 , 5313 01:10:47,370 --> 01:10:48,337 providing for the 5314 01:10:48,337 --> 01:10:48,805 abatement and 5315 01:10:48,805 --> 01:10:49,572 removal of 5316 01:10:49,572 --> 01:10:50,600 junked vehicles, 5317 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:50,474 providing for 5318 01:10:50,474 --> 01:10:50,605 the notice 5319 01:10:50,605 --> 01:10:50,940 , 5320 01:10:50,940 --> 01:10:51,575 hearing 5321 01:10:51,575 --> 01:10:52,750 , and 5322 01:10:52,750 --> 01:10:53,175 enforcement 5323 01:10:53,175 --> 01:10:53,709 , 5324 01:10:53,709 --> 01:10:54,377 providing penalties 5325 01:10:54,377 --> 01:10:55,110 , repealing 5326 01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:55,378 conflicting provisions, 5327 01:10:55,378 --> 01:10:56,780 providing 5328 01:10:56,780 --> 01:10:56,812 a 5329 01:10:56,812 --> 01:10:57,848 severability clause 5330 01:10:57,848 --> 01:10:58,347 and 5331 01:10:58,347 --> 01:10:58,615 providing 5332 01:10:58,615 --> 01:10:59,348 an 5333 01:10:59,348 --> 01:10:59,649 effective date 5334 01:10:59,649 --> 01:11:00,249 Uh 5335 01:11:00,249 --> 01:11:01,170 , Robert, you're 5336 01:11:01,170 --> 01:11:01,350 , uh, you're 5337 01:11:01,350 --> 01:11:01,651 with 5338 01:11:01,651 --> 01:11:02,218 us again 5339 01:11:02,218 --> 01:11:03,820 . Ok 5340 01:11:03,820 --> 01:11:04,120 As 5341 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:04,854 stated on 5342 01:11:04,854 --> 01:11:06,220 the screen, the origins 5343 01:11:06,220 --> 01:11:06,489 has not 5344 01:11:06,489 --> 01:11:06,957 been updated 5345 01:11:06,957 --> 01:11:08,525 since 5346 01:11:08,525 --> 01:11:09,910 2006, and I 5347 01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:09,358 think the, the 5348 01:11:09,358 --> 01:11:11,227 thing 5349 01:11:11,227 --> 01:11:11,961 that 5350 01:11:11,961 --> 01:11:12,795 triggered or that caught 5351 01:11:12,795 --> 01:11:13,629 my 5352 01:11:13,629 --> 01:11:14,163 attention 5353 01:11:14,163 --> 01:11:15,298 mostly was 5354 01:11:15,298 --> 01:11:15,665 the fact 5355 01:11:15,665 --> 01:11:16,320 that the 5356 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:16,366 current 5357 01:11:16,366 --> 01:11:16,632 ordinance does 5358 01:11:16,632 --> 01:11:18,235 not 5359 01:11:18,235 --> 01:11:19,669 include 5360 01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:20,303 unregistered or 5361 01:11:20,303 --> 01:11:22,171 more properly put 5362 01:11:22,171 --> 01:11:22,706 , expired 5363 01:11:22,706 --> 01:11:23,172 license or does 5364 01:11:23,172 --> 01:11:24,707 not display as 5365 01:11:24,707 --> 01:11:25,174 part of the 5366 01:11:25,174 --> 01:11:25,609 definition of a 5367 01:11:25,609 --> 01:11:27,377 junk vehicle 5368 01:11:27,377 --> 01:11:27,677 . What 5369 01:11:27,677 --> 01:11:28,511 you have 5370 01:11:28,511 --> 01:11:28,978 to 5371 01:11:28,978 --> 01:11:29,345 understand with 5372 01:11:29,345 --> 01:11:29,679 junk vehicles, 5373 01:11:29,679 --> 01:11:30,780 again 5374 01:11:30,780 --> 01:11:31,114 , it's 5375 01:11:31,114 --> 01:11:33,114 a takings 5376 01:11:33,149 --> 01:11:33,549 . These 5377 01:11:33,549 --> 01:11:33,983 are not the 5378 01:11:33,983 --> 01:11:34,584 abandoned vehicles 5379 01:11:34,584 --> 01:11:35,351 you see on the side 5380 01:11:35,351 --> 01:11:35,619 of 5381 01:11:35,619 --> 01:11:35,985 the 5382 01:11:35,985 --> 01:11:36,319 road 5383 01:11:36,319 --> 01:11:37,720 that 5384 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:38,321 typically pd 5385 01:11:38,321 --> 01:11:40,321 will tag toe 5386 01:11:40,623 --> 01:11:42,158 store 5387 01:11:42,158 --> 01:11:42,926 , and 5388 01:11:42,926 --> 01:11:43,326 either sale or get 5389 01:11:43,326 --> 01:11:45,610 back to the 5390 01:11:45,610 --> 01:11:46,596 . To the owners 5391 01:11:46,596 --> 01:11:47,630 When 5392 01:11:47,630 --> 01:11:47,497 you tow a 5393 01:11:47,497 --> 01:11:49,165 junk vehicle 5394 01:11:49,165 --> 01:11:49,933 that 5395 01:11:49,933 --> 01:11:51,100 vehicle's done 5396 01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:51,501 . It has to be 5397 01:11:51,501 --> 01:11:51,868 demolished 5398 01:11:51,868 --> 01:11:53,569 . It can 5399 01:11:53,569 --> 01:11:53,870 no longer 5400 01:11:53,870 --> 01:11:54,170 be 5401 01:11:54,170 --> 01:11:55,939 resold 5402 01:11:55,939 --> 01:11:56,172 . It it's, it's gonna 5403 01:11:56,172 --> 01:11:56,773 be 5404 01:11:56,773 --> 01:11:57,975 crushed. It's taken 5405 01:11:57,975 --> 01:11:58,207 off 5406 01:11:58,207 --> 01:11:58,374 the 5407 01:11:58,374 --> 01:11:58,908 dmv 5408 01:11:58,908 --> 01:12:00,430 records. We send 5409 01:12:00,430 --> 01:12:00,243 in 5410 01:12:00,243 --> 01:12:00,443 the 5411 01:12:00,443 --> 01:12:00,877 vin 5412 01:12:00,877 --> 01:12:02,679 numbers and 5413 01:12:02,679 --> 01:12:03,146 it's done. So we 5414 01:12:03,146 --> 01:12:03,480 want to make 5415 01:12:03,480 --> 01:12:05,415 sure that 5416 01:12:05,415 --> 01:12:05,915 the 5417 01:12:05,915 --> 01:12:06,416 uh 5418 01:12:06,416 --> 01:12:07,383 definition is in 5419 01:12:07,383 --> 01:12:07,650 accordance 5420 01:12:07,650 --> 01:12:08,151 with 5421 01:12:08,151 --> 01:12:08,518 state law 5422 01:12:08,518 --> 01:12:08,818 with regards to 5423 01:12:08,818 --> 01:12:10,818 that 5424 01:12:11,421 --> 01:12:11,688 . The 5425 01:12:11,688 --> 01:12:12,288 notification 5426 01:12:12,288 --> 01:12:13,423 provisions have also 5427 01:12:13,423 --> 01:12:14,124 been 5428 01:12:14,124 --> 01:12:14,657 revised to better align with 5429 01:12:14,657 --> 01:12:16,192 state statutes 5430 01:12:16,192 --> 01:12:16,926 , replacing the 5431 01:12:16,926 --> 01:12:17,160 current truncated description 5432 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:18,195 of 5433 01:12:18,195 --> 01:12:19,129 the process 5434 01:12:19,129 --> 01:12:20,230 Here 5435 01:12:20,230 --> 01:12:20,497 in 5436 01:12:20,497 --> 01:12:20,965 quest 5437 01:12:20,965 --> 01:12:21,331 process is 5438 01:12:21,331 --> 01:12:22,799 separated 5439 01:12:22,799 --> 01:12:23,199 into 5440 01:12:23,199 --> 01:12:23,733 proposed 5441 01:12:23,733 --> 01:12:24,934 section 9306 5442 01:12:24,934 --> 01:12:25,535 and 5443 01:12:25,535 --> 01:12:26,200 includes the 5444 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:26,302 defined timeline 5445 01:12:26,302 --> 01:12:27,504 for 5446 01:12:27,504 --> 01:12:27,905 submitting a request 5447 01:12:27,905 --> 01:12:28,706 . 5448 01:12:28,706 --> 01:12:30,400 Currently no timeline is given 5449 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:30,507 . 5450 01:12:30,507 --> 01:12:31,942 The proposed 5451 01:12:31,942 --> 01:12:32,509 section 9037, 5452 01:12:32,509 --> 01:12:33,810 conduct of hearing 5453 01:12:33,810 --> 01:12:34,311 was added 5454 01:12:34,311 --> 01:12:34,878 to 5455 01:12:34,878 --> 01:12:36,312 clarify timelines 5456 01:12:36,312 --> 01:12:36,646 for 5457 01:12:36,646 --> 01:12:36,913 hearings 5458 01:12:36,913 --> 01:12:37,547 and 5459 01:12:37,547 --> 01:12:38,715 address situations where 5460 01:12:38,715 --> 01:12:39,382 the vehicle 5461 01:12:39,382 --> 01:12:39,716 is relocated but 5462 01:12:39,716 --> 01:12:40,450 remains 5463 01:12:40,450 --> 01:12:40,984 a 5464 01:12:40,984 --> 01:12:41,585 nuisance 5465 01:12:41,585 --> 01:12:42,152 . That's 5466 01:12:42,152 --> 01:12:42,886 you've cited 5467 01:12:42,886 --> 01:12:43,754 at 5468 01:12:43,754 --> 01:12:44,870 one address 5469 01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:44,387 pops 5470 01:12:44,387 --> 01:12:45,755 up 5471 01:12:45,755 --> 01:12:46,220 somewhere else. It's 5472 01:12:46,220 --> 01:12:46,289 the 5473 01:12:46,289 --> 01:12:46,623 same 5474 01:12:46,623 --> 01:12:47,900 vehicle 5475 01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:47,691 . They're 5476 01:12:47,691 --> 01:12:48,291 just 5477 01:12:48,291 --> 01:12:50,291 moving it around 5478 01:12:50,427 --> 01:12:50,627 . And 5479 01:12:50,627 --> 01:12:51,161 specify 5480 01:12:51,161 --> 01:12:51,895 required information 5481 01:12:51,895 --> 01:12:52,620 to 5482 01:12:52,620 --> 01:12:52,596 be 5483 01:12:52,596 --> 01:12:52,929 included in an order for 5484 01:12:52,929 --> 01:12:54,898 removal 5485 01:12:54,898 --> 01:12:55,298 . The 5486 01:12:55,298 --> 01:12:56,533 statement of 5487 01:12:56,533 --> 01:12:57,000 the 5488 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:57,635 current 5489 01:12:57,635 --> 01:12:58,735 section 5490 01:12:58,735 --> 01:12:59,200 9303c requiring 5491 01:12:59,200 --> 01:12:59,502 a 5492 01:12:59,502 --> 01:13:00,737 public hearing prior 5493 01:13:00,737 --> 01:13:01,138 to 5494 01:13:01,138 --> 01:13:01,371 removal of 5495 01:13:01,371 --> 01:13:02,105 a 5496 01:13:02,105 --> 01:13:02,972 vehicle 5497 01:13:02,972 --> 01:13:03,507 or 5498 01:13:03,507 --> 01:13:03,673 vehicles part of 5499 01:13:03,673 --> 01:13:04,108 public 5500 01:13:04,108 --> 01:13:04,408 nuisance has 5501 01:13:04,408 --> 01:13:05,843 been 5502 01:13:05,843 --> 01:13:06,143 removed, so 5503 01:13:06,143 --> 01:13:06,877 no 5504 01:13:06,877 --> 01:13:07,311 longer do we need a hearing 5505 01:13:07,311 --> 01:13:08,145 for that 5506 01:13:08,145 --> 01:13:08,345 ? You 5507 01:13:08,345 --> 01:13:08,645 can 5508 01:13:08,645 --> 01:13:09,880 get a 5509 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:10,313 , before 5510 01:13:10,313 --> 01:13:12,115 we enter 5511 01:13:12,115 --> 01:13:12,449 this 5512 01:13:12,449 --> 01:13:13,217 is specifically 5513 01:13:13,217 --> 01:13:14,251 for those on private property 5514 01:13:14,251 --> 01:13:15,180 , 5515 01:13:15,180 --> 01:13:15,319 pd deals with the ones that are 5516 01:13:15,319 --> 01:13:16,787 on the 5517 01:13:16,787 --> 01:13:17,387 right of ways 5518 01:13:17,387 --> 01:13:17,721 . We would 5519 01:13:17,721 --> 01:13:19,560 still 5520 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:19,222 need to go get a 5521 01:13:19,222 --> 01:13:19,956 court 5522 01:13:19,956 --> 01:13:20,323 order to be able to enter the 5523 01:13:20,323 --> 01:13:21,925 property 5524 01:13:21,925 --> 01:13:23,427 . In order, unless 5525 01:13:23,427 --> 01:13:23,995 the 5526 01:13:23,995 --> 01:13:24,295 owner gives us 5527 01:13:24,295 --> 01:13:24,828 permission and 5528 01:13:24,828 --> 01:13:26,430 we're taking it 5529 01:13:26,430 --> 01:13:26,663 . As part of 5530 01:13:26,663 --> 01:13:27,265 a 5531 01:13:27,265 --> 01:13:29,265 compliance agreement 5532 01:13:30,670 --> 01:13:30,767 . 5533 01:13:30,767 --> 01:13:31,301 Provisions of the current code 5534 01:13:31,301 --> 01:13:32,436 allowing for the 5535 01:13:32,436 --> 01:13:33,203 sale and lean 5536 01:13:33,203 --> 01:13:35,105 of a junk vehicle are 5537 01:13:35,105 --> 01:13:35,305 no 5538 01:13:35,305 --> 01:13:35,706 good. 5539 01:13:35,706 --> 01:13:37,675 As I said 5540 01:13:37,675 --> 01:13:38,408 , once you, once 5541 01:13:38,408 --> 01:13:39,243 you've told this thing as 5542 01:13:39,243 --> 01:13:39,943 a 5543 01:13:39,943 --> 01:13:40,243 junk vehicle, you 5544 01:13:40,243 --> 01:13:41,678 cannot 5545 01:13:41,678 --> 01:13:42,513 resell 5546 01:13:42,513 --> 01:13:43,981 it, can't file a lien on it 5547 01:13:43,981 --> 01:13:44,681 . 5548 01:13:44,681 --> 01:13:44,982 The authority is not found in 5549 01:13:44,982 --> 01:13:46,416 state 5550 01:13:46,416 --> 01:13:46,583 statute and has 5551 01:13:46,583 --> 01:13:46,917 been 5552 01:13:46,917 --> 01:13:48,819 removed 5553 01:13:48,819 --> 01:13:50,819 . And authority to 5554 01:13:51,122 --> 01:13:51,688 enforced provisions in 5555 01:13:51,688 --> 01:13:52,550 19,310, 5556 01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:52,956 violation 5557 01:13:52,956 --> 01:13:53,390 of penalties 5558 01:13:53,390 --> 01:13:54,910 , 9311 5559 01:13:54,910 --> 01:13:55,526 have also been added 5560 01:13:55,526 --> 01:13:57,361 . Again 5561 01:13:57,361 --> 01:13:57,962 , 5562 01:13:57,962 --> 01:13:58,362 abandoned vehicles are still 5563 01:13:58,362 --> 01:14:00,362 able to be 5564 01:14:01,832 --> 01:14:01,965 um, enforced by 5565 01:14:01,965 --> 01:14:02,266 pd 5566 01:14:02,266 --> 01:14:02,666 under 5567 01:14:02,666 --> 01:14:04,468 Texas 5568 01:14:04,468 --> 01:14:05,135 Transportation Code 5569 01:14:05,135 --> 01:14:06,703 Chapter 683 5570 01:14:06,703 --> 01:14:08,472 um 5571 01:14:08,472 --> 01:14:08,873 one 5572 01:14:08,873 --> 01:14:10,641 other note 5573 01:14:10,641 --> 01:14:11,308 , 5574 01:14:11,308 --> 01:14:11,575 antique vehicles in the current 5575 01:14:11,575 --> 01:14:13,343 code 5576 01:14:13,343 --> 01:14:13,577 of ordinances lists them 5577 01:14:13,577 --> 01:14:14,211 as 5578 01:14:14,211 --> 01:14:15,579 35 years 5579 01:14:15,579 --> 01:14:16,413 in accordance with 5580 01:14:16,413 --> 01:14:17,448 state statute, it should be 5581 01:14:17,448 --> 01:14:17,781 225 5582 01:14:17,781 --> 01:14:19,781 years 5583 01:14:20,285 --> 01:14:20,651 . So 5584 01:14:20,651 --> 01:14:21,850 , so this is 5585 01:14:21,850 --> 01:14:22,920 a cleanup 5586 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,355 Cleanup 5587 01:14:24,355 --> 01:14:24,989 and 5588 01:14:24,989 --> 01:14:25,222 better 5589 01:14:25,222 --> 01:14:25,623 statutory 5590 01:14:25,623 --> 01:14:26,557 construction 5591 01:14:26,557 --> 01:14:26,790 . Yeah 5592 01:14:26,790 --> 01:14:27,358 , I believe 5593 01:14:27,358 --> 01:14:28,692 we used to refer 5594 01:14:28,692 --> 01:14:28,960 to 5595 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:29,193 them 5596 01:14:29,193 --> 01:14:30,161 as 5597 01:14:30,161 --> 01:14:31,428 undrivable vehicles 5598 01:14:31,428 --> 01:14:31,795 , always 5599 01:14:31,795 --> 01:14:32,630 considered 5600 01:14:32,630 --> 01:14:33,130 an 5601 01:14:33,130 --> 01:14:33,798 undrivable 5602 01:14:33,798 --> 01:14:33,964 vehicle to be one that 5603 01:14:33,964 --> 01:14:34,498 can't 5604 01:14:34,498 --> 01:14:35,800 legally be driven 5605 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:36,600 as opposed to 5606 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:36,967 one that can't be driven under 5607 01:14:36,967 --> 01:14:37,868 its own 5608 01:14:37,868 --> 01:14:39,237 power 5609 01:14:39,237 --> 01:14:40,805 , but this uh um 5610 01:14:40,805 --> 01:14:41,720 this certainly cleans that up 5611 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:42,373 and 5612 01:14:42,373 --> 01:14:42,606 makes it much more 5613 01:14:42,606 --> 01:14:43,173 explicit 5614 01:14:43,173 --> 01:14:44,308 so there's no need 5615 01:14:44,308 --> 01:14:44,942 for 5616 01:14:44,942 --> 01:14:45,209 interpretation. Uh, counsel, do 5617 01:14:45,209 --> 01:14:45,843 you 5618 01:14:45,843 --> 01:14:46,777 have questions? I 5619 01:14:46,777 --> 01:14:47,578 was going 5620 01:14:47,578 --> 01:14:49,280 to say thank you. I know one of 5621 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:49,847 the 5622 01:14:49,847 --> 01:14:50,115 reasons we looked at 5623 01:14:50,115 --> 01:14:50,448 this 5624 01:14:50,448 --> 01:14:51,282 years 5625 01:14:51,282 --> 01:14:51,782 ago was 5626 01:14:51,782 --> 01:14:52,316 what happened in 5627 01:14:52,316 --> 01:14:52,650 historic colored 5628 01:14:52,650 --> 01:14:53,517 edition 5629 01:14:53,517 --> 01:14:53,918 . There 5630 01:14:53,918 --> 01:14:54,352 were so 5631 01:14:54,352 --> 01:14:54,719 many 5632 01:14:54,719 --> 01:14:55,886 junk 5633 01:14:55,886 --> 01:14:56,388 vehicles all 5634 01:14:56,388 --> 01:14:56,787 over the place 5635 01:14:56,787 --> 01:14:57,121 over there 5636 01:14:57,121 --> 01:14:57,755 . It 5637 01:14:57,755 --> 01:14:58,122 was repugnant 5638 01:14:58,122 --> 01:14:58,555 to say 5639 01:14:58,555 --> 01:14:58,723 the least 5640 01:14:58,723 --> 01:14:59,457 , 5641 01:14:59,457 --> 01:14:59,757 and for folks who are going 5642 01:14:59,757 --> 01:15:00,891 to 5643 01:15:00,891 --> 01:15:01,392 Saint Mary's and then 5644 01:15:01,392 --> 01:15:02,326 , you know 5645 01:15:02,326 --> 01:15:03,260 dealing with the cemeteries 5646 01:15:03,260 --> 01:15:03,595 out 5647 01:15:03,595 --> 01:15:03,928 there 5648 01:15:03,928 --> 01:15:04,395 . It, it 5649 01:15:04,395 --> 01:15:05,950 was a 5650 01:15:05,950 --> 01:15:05,363 hard to 5651 01:15:05,363 --> 01:15:05,663 get 5652 01:15:05,663 --> 01:15:05,997 that 5653 01:15:05,997 --> 01:15:06,397 cleaned 5654 01:15:06,397 --> 01:15:06,898 up 5655 01:15:06,898 --> 01:15:07,398 and 5656 01:15:07,398 --> 01:15:07,865 so 5657 01:15:07,865 --> 01:15:08,165 I'm just 5658 01:15:08,165 --> 01:15:08,399 glad 5659 01:15:08,399 --> 01:15:09,660 we 5660 01:15:09,660 --> 01:15:09,500 got something 5661 01:15:09,500 --> 01:15:10,334 now where 5662 01:15:10,334 --> 01:15:10,968 we won't have to have that 5663 01:15:10,968 --> 01:15:11,336 anywhere in part of the 5664 01:15:11,336 --> 01:15:11,702 city 5665 01:15:11,702 --> 01:15:12,303 again 5666 01:15:12,303 --> 01:15:12,637 . So I'm glad we won't 5667 01:15:12,637 --> 01:15:14,380 have a 5668 01:15:14,380 --> 01:15:14,639 junked 5669 01:15:14,639 --> 01:15:14,905 aircraft either. 5670 01:15:14,905 --> 01:15:15,873 So 5671 01:15:15,873 --> 01:15:16,207 of 5672 01:15:16,207 --> 01:15:16,807 course 5673 01:15:16,807 --> 01:15:17,375 , all vehicles I 5674 01:15:17,375 --> 01:15:18,209 saw that definition 5675 01:15:18,209 --> 01:15:18,876 in 5676 01:15:18,876 --> 01:15:19,477 here 5677 01:15:19,477 --> 01:15:21,450 watercraft, yeah 5678 01:15:21,450 --> 01:15:21,412 , I 5679 01:15:21,412 --> 01:15:21,612 know 5680 01:15:21,612 --> 01:15:21,979 the 5681 01:15:21,979 --> 01:15:23,800 spirit of 5682 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:23,447 this 5683 01:15:23,447 --> 01:15:23,648 is, it 5684 01:15:23,648 --> 01:15:24,216 , it's 5685 01:15:24,216 --> 01:15:25,416 dead on. I mean 5686 01:15:25,416 --> 01:15:25,683 , I agree with 5687 01:15:25,683 --> 01:15:26,383 it 5688 01:15:26,383 --> 01:15:27,518 . Let's say 5689 01:15:27,518 --> 01:15:28,453 , because it 5690 01:15:28,453 --> 01:15:30,922 happens, some people turn their 5691 01:15:30,922 --> 01:15:31,255 old vehicles into art in their 5692 01:15:31,255 --> 01:15:32,123 yard or 5693 01:15:32,123 --> 01:15:32,423 they 5694 01:15:32,423 --> 01:15:32,823 have 5695 01:15:32,823 --> 01:15:33,325 big 5696 01:15:33,325 --> 01:15:34,492 properties like 5697 01:15:34,492 --> 01:15:35,326 the, you know, 5698 01:15:35,326 --> 01:15:35,593 the Austin had to do something 5699 01:15:35,593 --> 01:15:37,950 like 5700 01:15:37,950 --> 01:15:37,395 that 5701 01:15:37,395 --> 01:15:37,662 , yeah 5702 01:15:37,662 --> 01:15:38,797 , or 5703 01:15:38,797 --> 01:15:39,197 a 5704 01:15:39,197 --> 01:15:39,864 or a oh 5705 01:15:39,864 --> 01:15:40,398 my GOD, people have tractors in 5706 01:15:40,398 --> 01:15:41,699 their front yard 5707 01:15:41,699 --> 01:15:42,660 . It's 5708 01:15:42,660 --> 01:15:42,533 undrivable 5709 01:15:42,533 --> 01:15:43,435 . They 5710 01:15:43,435 --> 01:15:44,135 have plants 5711 01:15:44,135 --> 01:15:44,802 and everything else all around 5712 01:15:44,802 --> 01:15:46,571 it and it's part of 5713 01:15:46,571 --> 01:15:47,605 the 5714 01:15:47,605 --> 01:15:48,720 landscaping. Where, where does 5715 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:48,607 that 5716 01:15:48,607 --> 01:15:48,907 fall? I mean 5717 01:15:48,907 --> 01:15:49,240 , is if 5718 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:49,507 it's, 5719 01:15:49,507 --> 01:15:50,374 if 5720 01:15:50,374 --> 01:15:50,842 it's 5721 01:15:50,842 --> 01:15:51,442 not 5722 01:15:51,442 --> 01:15:52,343 really hurting 5723 01:15:52,343 --> 01:15:52,845 anybody, does it 5724 01:15:52,845 --> 01:15:53,280 ? Fall 5725 01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:53,578 under 5726 01:15:53,578 --> 01:15:53,945 common sense? We're not going 5727 01:15:53,945 --> 01:15:54,612 to mess 5728 01:15:54,612 --> 01:15:55,179 with 5729 01:15:55,179 --> 01:15:55,546 them, or how does 5730 01:15:55,546 --> 01:15:56,848 that fall 5731 01:15:56,848 --> 01:15:57,415 ? Well 5732 01:15:57,415 --> 01:15:59,160 , define 5733 01:15:59,160 --> 01:15:59,651 hurting 5734 01:15:59,651 --> 01:15:59,985 anybody. Well, I 5735 01:15:59,985 --> 01:16:00,485 guess that's, 5736 01:16:00,485 --> 01:16:01,419 that's actually 5737 01:16:01,419 --> 01:16:02,530 one of the 5738 01:16:02,530 --> 01:16:02,287 things we took out of 5739 01:16:02,287 --> 01:16:03,721 the 5740 01:16:03,721 --> 01:16:04,550 public 5741 01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:04,455 nuisance 5742 01:16:04,455 --> 01:16:05,189 ordinance was, 5743 01:16:05,189 --> 01:16:06,900 I, I'll read it to you 5744 01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:06,691 guys 5745 01:16:06,691 --> 01:16:07,250 here in a bit because 5746 01:16:07,250 --> 01:16:08,920 it was a 5747 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:08,459 very subjective clause, you 5748 01:16:08,459 --> 01:16:09,227 know, that 5749 01:16:09,227 --> 01:16:10,428 didn't apply, but 5750 01:16:10,428 --> 01:16:11,620 to 5751 01:16:11,620 --> 01:16:12,730 answer your question 5752 01:16:12,730 --> 01:16:13,564 , it's 5753 01:16:13,564 --> 01:16:13,965 going to be a situation by 5754 01:16:13,965 --> 01:16:15,133 situation 5755 01:16:15,133 --> 01:16:15,733 . I think in that 5756 01:16:15,733 --> 01:16:17,202 particular 5757 01:16:17,202 --> 01:16:17,669 case 5758 01:16:17,669 --> 01:16:18,690 , I 5759 01:16:18,690 --> 01:16:18,570 would defer 5760 01:16:18,570 --> 01:16:19,938 that to court 5761 01:16:19,938 --> 01:16:20,238 and 5762 01:16:20,238 --> 01:16:20,538 have a judge 5763 01:16:20,538 --> 01:16:22,740 make a 5764 01:16:22,740 --> 01:16:22,540 ruling on it 5765 01:16:22,540 --> 01:16:22,841 . Tractors 5766 01:16:22,841 --> 01:16:23,775 were 5767 01:16:23,775 --> 01:16:24,442 never 5768 01:16:24,442 --> 01:16:25,100 licensed, so it's, I 5769 01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:26,445 don't, I don't think 5770 01:16:26,445 --> 01:16:26,978 that'd be. 5771 01:16:26,978 --> 01:16:29,378 No, I think of 5772 01:16:29,648 --> 01:16:30,382 , uh, there's 5773 01:16:30,382 --> 01:16:31,182 one 5774 01:16:31,182 --> 01:16:31,382 company in Austin that had 5775 01:16:31,382 --> 01:16:31,583 a 5776 01:16:31,583 --> 01:16:31,916 uh 5777 01:16:31,916 --> 01:16:32,951 drunker 5778 01:16:32,951 --> 01:16:33,318 that they 5779 01:16:33,318 --> 01:16:34,190 had plants 5780 01:16:34,190 --> 01:16:34,285 and everything in and the 5781 01:16:34,285 --> 01:16:35,753 city 5782 01:16:35,753 --> 01:16:36,554 did make, oh it was in San 5783 01:16:36,554 --> 01:16:37,689 Marcus and they had to move it 5784 01:16:37,689 --> 01:16:38,290 to or one of the 5785 01:16:38,290 --> 01:16:39,190 two. It was in 5786 01:16:39,190 --> 01:16:39,791 one city and they had to move 5787 01:16:39,791 --> 01:16:40,158 it to 5788 01:16:40,158 --> 01:16:40,626 another 5789 01:16:40,626 --> 01:16:41,126 . It was, it 5790 01:16:41,126 --> 01:16:41,560 wasn't too 5791 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:42,193 bad looking. I 5792 01:16:42,193 --> 01:16:42,427 mean 5793 01:16:42,427 --> 01:16:43,128 , 5794 01:16:43,128 --> 01:16:44,529 they decorated it nice 5795 01:16:44,529 --> 01:16:45,300 , but 5796 01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:45,597 yeah 5797 01:16:45,597 --> 01:16:45,965 , I see some of 5798 01:16:45,965 --> 01:16:46,531 this as 5799 01:16:46,531 --> 01:16:46,865 I'm 5800 01:16:46,865 --> 01:16:47,198 driving 5801 01:16:47,198 --> 01:16:47,699 around 5802 01:16:47,699 --> 01:16:48,133 Huddo and some 5803 01:16:48,133 --> 01:16:48,800 of these 5804 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:49,467 other properties 5805 01:16:49,467 --> 01:16:49,734 and 5806 01:16:49,734 --> 01:16:50,168 so 5807 01:16:50,168 --> 01:16:50,669 , um, some 5808 01:16:50,669 --> 01:16:51,136 of these 5809 01:16:51,136 --> 01:16:51,836 more 5810 01:16:51,836 --> 01:16:52,137 urban areas 5811 01:16:52,137 --> 01:16:52,671 , but 5812 01:16:52,671 --> 01:16:52,938 I just wanted 5813 01:16:52,938 --> 01:16:53,271 to 5814 01:16:53,271 --> 01:16:53,838 c lar 5815 01:16:53,838 --> 01:16:54,372 ify that. Thank you. 5816 01:16:54,372 --> 01:16:55,173 Thank you. Uh so 5817 01:16:55,173 --> 01:16:55,507 , I 5818 01:16:55,507 --> 01:16:56,410 , yeah, I 5819 01:16:56,410 --> 01:16:57,909 thank you for 5820 01:16:57,909 --> 01:16:58,543 , uh, looking 5821 01:16:58,543 --> 01:16:58,943 through this and doing a 5822 01:16:58,943 --> 01:17:00,545 , a 5823 01:17:00,545 --> 01:17:01,113 cleanup and bringing it into 5824 01:17:01,113 --> 01:17:02,380 compliance with the 5825 01:17:02,380 --> 01:17:02,714 state 5826 01:17:02,714 --> 01:17:03,348 laws 5827 01:17:03,348 --> 01:17:04,549 you've mentioned 5828 01:17:04,549 --> 01:17:04,716 , um, I 5829 01:17:04,716 --> 01:17:05,217 had a, 5830 01:17:05,217 --> 01:17:05,851 a couple 5831 01:17:05,851 --> 01:17:06,952 of 5832 01:17:06,952 --> 01:17:07,619 questions 5833 01:17:07,619 --> 01:17:08,190 . Um 5834 01:17:08,190 --> 01:17:08,620 , do 5835 01:17:08,620 --> 01:17:09,855 we have 5836 01:17:09,855 --> 01:17:10,122 , uh, just wondering, do 5837 01:17:10,122 --> 01:17:10,489 is 5838 01:17:10,489 --> 01:17:11,489 , is this 5839 01:17:11,489 --> 01:17:12,900 a big 5840 01:17:12,900 --> 01:17:12,491 issue that we 5841 01:17:12,491 --> 01:17:13,358 have with 5842 01:17:13,358 --> 01:17:13,592 junked vehicles 5843 01:17:13,592 --> 01:17:13,859 . Um, 5844 01:17:13,859 --> 01:17:14,326 let 5845 01:17:14,326 --> 01:17:14,559 me, um, there 5846 01:17:14,559 --> 01:17:14,926 was 5847 01:17:14,926 --> 01:17:15,527 some 5848 01:17:15,527 --> 01:17:16,610 discussion right now 5849 01:17:16,610 --> 01:17:16,661 . I mean, 5850 01:17:16,661 --> 01:17:17,195 so I don't know 5851 01:17:17,195 --> 01:17:17,329 if that was 5852 01:17:17,329 --> 01:17:17,596 , 5853 01:17:17,596 --> 01:17:18,196 that 5854 01:17:18,196 --> 01:17:18,730 is the 5855 01:17:18,730 --> 01:17:19,131 situation 5856 01:17:19,131 --> 01:17:20,980 that 5857 01:17:20,980 --> 01:17:20,765 was 5858 01:17:20,765 --> 01:17:21,100 addressed 5859 01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:21,666 , but 5860 01:17:21,666 --> 01:17:22,000 like ongoing 5861 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:22,335 . I 5862 01:17:22,335 --> 01:17:23,201 , 5863 01:17:23,201 --> 01:17:23,769 I'm just curious cause I don't, 5864 01:17:23,769 --> 01:17:25,300 I don't really know 5865 01:17:25,300 --> 01:17:25,370 . It 5866 01:17:25,370 --> 01:17:25,570 is 5867 01:17:25,570 --> 01:17:25,971 ongoing, and 5868 01:17:25,971 --> 01:17:26,271 there are quite a 5869 01:17:26,271 --> 01:17:27,406 few 5870 01:17:27,406 --> 01:17:27,739 , but there 5871 01:17:27,739 --> 01:17:28,206 are still 5872 01:17:28,206 --> 01:17:28,807 some 5873 01:17:28,807 --> 01:17:29,241 limitations of what 5874 01:17:29,241 --> 01:17:29,441 we can 5875 01:17:29,441 --> 01:17:29,874 do, 5876 01:17:29,874 --> 01:17:30,342 even with 5877 01:17:30,342 --> 01:17:30,509 this cleanup 5878 01:17:30,509 --> 01:17:30,776 , you 5879 01:17:30,776 --> 01:17:32,776 know 5880 01:17:32,778 --> 01:17:34,480 . You can't, it's got to be 5881 01:17:34,480 --> 01:17:34,913 seen from the right of way. 5882 01:17:34,913 --> 01:17:36,470 That's the 5883 01:17:36,470 --> 01:17:36,281 biggest 5884 01:17:36,281 --> 01:17:36,782 thing with 5885 01:17:36,782 --> 01:17:37,249 pretty much any 5886 01:17:37,249 --> 01:17:38,284 code violation 5887 01:17:38,284 --> 01:17:39,510 . 5888 01:17:39,510 --> 01:17:40,819 Or a majority of them 5889 01:17:40,819 --> 01:17:40,938 And 5890 01:17:40,938 --> 01:17:41,554 you 5891 01:17:41,554 --> 01:17:43,388 can't you've got 5892 01:17:43,388 --> 01:17:43,855 to use the 5893 01:17:43,855 --> 01:17:45,123 naked eye 5894 01:17:45,123 --> 01:17:45,490 . So 5895 01:17:45,490 --> 01:17:45,857 I, if 5896 01:17:45,857 --> 01:17:46,358 I'm looking 5897 01:17:46,358 --> 01:17:47,960 for this 5898 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,960 unregistered plate or 5899 01:17:50,290 --> 01:17:50,829 . 5900 01:17:50,829 --> 01:17:52,130 Uh sticker in the window, i 5901 01:17:52,130 --> 01:17:52,364 can't use my Zoom 5902 01:17:52,364 --> 01:17:52,598 on 5903 01:17:52,598 --> 01:17:52,798 my 5904 01:17:52,798 --> 01:17:53,650 phone 5905 01:17:53,650 --> 01:17:54,500 to 5906 01:17:54,500 --> 01:17:54,933 zoom in on it because 5907 01:17:54,933 --> 01:17:56,168 I 5908 01:17:56,168 --> 01:17:56,869 wear 5909 01:17:56,869 --> 01:17:57,336 glasses as it is, so I, if I 5910 01:17:57,336 --> 01:17:58,805 can't see it 5911 01:17:58,805 --> 01:17:59,171 , you know, I 5912 01:17:59,171 --> 01:18:00,720 , I 5913 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:01,240 can't artificially 5914 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:01,507 you 5915 01:18:01,507 --> 01:18:01,629 know 5916 01:18:01,629 --> 01:18:02,107 , 5917 01:18:02,107 --> 01:18:03,208 zoom into it and 5918 01:18:03,208 --> 01:18:03,375 try 5919 01:18:03,375 --> 01:18:03,976 to 5920 01:18:03,976 --> 01:18:05,244 identify it as such 5921 01:18:05,244 --> 01:18:05,511 . So 5922 01:18:05,511 --> 01:18:05,811 there's 5923 01:18:05,811 --> 01:18:06,345 still 5924 01:18:06,345 --> 01:18:08,213 some limitations 5925 01:18:08,213 --> 01:18:10,213 . There's 5926 01:18:10,382 --> 01:18:10,616 things in state 5927 01:18:10,616 --> 01:18:11,183 law 5928 01:18:11,183 --> 01:18:13,183 that are 5929 01:18:13,352 --> 01:18:14,453 silly, but they're in 5930 01:18:14,453 --> 01:18:14,854 there 5931 01:18:14,854 --> 01:18:15,387 like they 5932 01:18:15,387 --> 01:18:15,587 can screen it with 5933 01:18:15,587 --> 01:18:17,890 a 5934 01:18:17,890 --> 01:18:17,923 rapidly 5935 01:18:17,923 --> 01:18:19,580 growing 5936 01:18:19,580 --> 01:18:19,358 shrub 5937 01:18:19,358 --> 01:18:19,892 . That's 5938 01:18:19,892 --> 01:18:21,793 everyone's favorite 5939 01:18:21,793 --> 01:18:21,927 . How 5940 01:18:21,927 --> 01:18:22,395 long 5941 01:18:22,395 --> 01:18:24,960 it takes that 5942 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:24,256 shrub to grow 5943 01:18:24,256 --> 01:18:24,663 , 5944 01:18:24,663 --> 01:18:25,898 who knows, but 5945 01:18:25,898 --> 01:18:26,298 they, they can 5946 01:18:26,298 --> 01:18:26,632 do it, and 5947 01:18:26,632 --> 01:18:26,865 there's 5948 01:18:26,865 --> 01:18:28,201 no 5949 01:18:28,201 --> 01:18:28,968 defined, 5950 01:18:28,968 --> 01:18:29,735 you know, it doesn't have to be 5951 01:18:29,735 --> 01:18:30,536 this high, it doesn't have to 5952 01:18:30,536 --> 01:18:31,103 be 5953 01:18:31,103 --> 01:18:31,370 fully screening it 5954 01:18:31,370 --> 01:18:32,700 , but 5955 01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:33,339 there's ways they can come 5956 01:18:33,339 --> 01:18:34,106 into 5957 01:18:34,106 --> 01:18:34,940 compliance. Again, we're 5958 01:18:34,940 --> 01:18:35,507 just 5959 01:18:35,507 --> 01:18:35,875 trying, we're not 5960 01:18:35,875 --> 01:18:36,375 trying to 5961 01:18:36,375 --> 01:18:36,709 be 5962 01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:37,776 punitive 5963 01:18:37,776 --> 01:18:38,243 , uh, we're 5964 01:18:38,243 --> 01:18:39,110 just trying 5965 01:18:39,110 --> 01:18:39,478 to get 5966 01:18:39,478 --> 01:18:39,846 clean things 5967 01:18:39,846 --> 01:18:40,446 up. They 5968 01:18:40,446 --> 01:18:40,913 can move it 5969 01:18:40,913 --> 01:18:41,747 . Out 5970 01:18:41,747 --> 01:18:41,981 of 5971 01:18:41,981 --> 01:18:42,181 the 5972 01:18:42,181 --> 01:18:42,548 public 5973 01:18:42,548 --> 01:18:42,982 view You 5974 01:18:42,982 --> 01:18:44,982 can tarp it 5975 01:18:46,952 --> 01:18:47,186 that 5976 01:18:47,186 --> 01:18:47,887 in 5977 01:18:47,887 --> 01:18:48,387 itself becomes another issue 5978 01:18:48,387 --> 01:18:48,755 because you know 5979 01:18:48,755 --> 01:18:49,555 those things, 5980 01:18:49,555 --> 01:18:49,989 weather, and then they start 5981 01:18:49,989 --> 01:18:50,823 blowing and 5982 01:18:50,823 --> 01:18:51,725 they look worse 5983 01:18:51,725 --> 01:18:53,359 than the vehicle did just by 5984 01:18:53,359 --> 01:18:53,759 sitting there by itself. So 5985 01:18:53,759 --> 01:18:54,930 , Oh 5986 01:18:54,930 --> 01:18:55,494 you 5987 01:18:55,494 --> 01:18:56,329 can tarp it 5988 01:18:56,329 --> 01:18:57,530 You 5989 01:18:57,530 --> 01:18:57,897 can. Oh 5990 01:18:57,897 --> 01:18:58,397 , ok 5991 01:18:58,397 --> 01:18:59,598 Were it from 5992 01:18:59,598 --> 01:18:59,899 public 5993 01:18:59,899 --> 01:19:00,199 view, you 5994 01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:00,533 know 5995 01:19:00,533 --> 01:19:01,935 . Hmm 5996 01:19:01,935 --> 01:19:02,435 , ok 5997 01:19:02,435 --> 01:19:02,735 . Um, I did have 5998 01:19:02,735 --> 01:19:04,570 one 5999 01:19:04,570 --> 01:19:05,171 other question because it 6000 01:19:05,171 --> 01:19:06,639 mentioned the cost 6001 01:19:06,639 --> 01:19:06,939 of 6002 01:19:06,939 --> 01:19:07,306 disposal, 6003 01:19:07,306 --> 01:19:07,740 and then 6004 01:19:07,740 --> 01:19:08,541 there's fines 6005 01:19:08,541 --> 01:19:08,908 and 6006 01:19:08,908 --> 01:19:09,441 whatnot 6007 01:19:09,441 --> 01:19:09,708 , um, and 6008 01:19:09,708 --> 01:19:10,750 since 6009 01:19:10,750 --> 01:19:11,544 this is 6010 01:19:11,544 --> 01:19:12,378 a vehicle, I was 6011 01:19:12,378 --> 01:19:13,379 just wondering 6012 01:19:13,379 --> 01:19:13,746 how 6013 01:19:13,746 --> 01:19:14,800 our fines 6014 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:14,513 and cost 6015 01:19:14,513 --> 01:19:14,880 of 6016 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:15,448 removal 6017 01:19:15,448 --> 01:19:17,448 , um 6018 01:19:17,917 --> 01:19:18,785 collected or is 6019 01:19:18,785 --> 01:19:19,919 there like a, I don't know 6020 01:19:19,919 --> 01:19:20,553 if 6021 01:19:20,553 --> 01:19:22,540 there, because the 6022 01:19:22,540 --> 01:19:22,221 other 6023 01:19:22,221 --> 01:19:22,755 um 6024 01:19:22,755 --> 01:19:23,389 item mentioned the liens 6025 01:19:23,389 --> 01:19:24,523 against the property 6026 01:19:24,523 --> 01:19:25,157 , and I 6027 01:19:25,157 --> 01:19:26,459 just, it does, it's 6028 01:19:26,459 --> 01:19:26,859 silent 6029 01:19:26,859 --> 01:19:27,193 about that 6030 01:19:27,193 --> 01:19:27,593 , so I was just 6031 01:19:27,593 --> 01:19:29,593 wondering 6032 01:19:31,397 --> 01:19:33,265 . Um 6033 01:19:33,265 --> 01:19:33,566 , 93.13 6034 01:19:33,566 --> 01:19:33,933 for the 6035 01:19:33,933 --> 01:19:34,433 , 6036 01:19:34,433 --> 01:19:36,433 the cost, and 6037 01:19:36,535 --> 01:19:36,836 then 93.11 6038 01:19:36,836 --> 01:19:37,203 for 6039 01:19:37,203 --> 01:19:38,137 penalties 6040 01:19:38,137 --> 01:19:38,405 . Yeah 6041 01:19:38,405 --> 01:19:38,539 , you 6042 01:19:38,539 --> 01:19:38,971 did 6043 01:19:38,971 --> 01:19:40,506 mention that 6044 01:19:40,506 --> 01:19:41,307 you can't place a 6045 01:19:41,307 --> 01:19:43,209 lien on the vehicle because the 6046 01:19:43,209 --> 01:19:44,777 vehicle is gone. Yeah 6047 01:19:44,777 --> 01:19:45,450 . So 6048 01:19:45,450 --> 01:19:45,645 these 6049 01:19:45,645 --> 01:19:47,246 are 6050 01:19:47,246 --> 01:19:47,613 administrative fines 6051 01:19:47,613 --> 01:19:48,150 . 6052 01:19:48,150 --> 01:19:49,448 They'll be 6053 01:19:49,448 --> 01:19:49,915 administrative fines 6054 01:19:49,915 --> 01:19:50,216 imposed by 6055 01:19:50,216 --> 01:19:51,517 the 6056 01:19:51,517 --> 01:19:51,817 court 6057 01:19:51,817 --> 01:19:52,351 . Um and 6058 01:19:52,351 --> 01:19:53,586 and imposed 6059 01:19:53,586 --> 01:19:54,200 on 6060 01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:54,320 the vehicle 6061 01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:54,887 owner 6062 01:19:54,887 --> 01:19:56,887 , the property owner 6063 01:19:58,157 --> 01:19:58,591 . 6064 01:19:58,591 --> 01:19:58,891 Property owner 6065 01:19:58,891 --> 01:19:59,292 , property owner 6066 01:19:59,292 --> 01:20:00,593 is always 6067 01:20:00,593 --> 01:20:00,960 responsible for what 6068 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:01,495 goes on 6069 01:20:01,495 --> 01:20:02,495 property right 6070 01:20:02,495 --> 01:20:03,129 it's 6071 01:20:03,129 --> 01:20:03,830 their vehicle or not 6072 01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:05,830 . Um 6073 01:20:06,966 --> 01:20:07,367 All 6074 01:20:07,367 --> 01:20:07,733 right, did 6075 01:20:07,733 --> 01:20:08,234 that answer your 6076 01:20:08,234 --> 01:20:09,670 question, Melody 6077 01:20:09,670 --> 01:20:09,970 ? Yeah, so I 6078 01:20:09,970 --> 01:20:10,403 , I 6079 01:20:10,403 --> 01:20:12,403 appreciate, um 6080 01:20:12,406 --> 01:20:13,106 , the detail that 6081 01:20:13,106 --> 01:20:13,940 you provided about what 6082 01:20:13,940 --> 01:20:14,607 you 6083 01:20:14,607 --> 01:20:14,941 changed and and 6084 01:20:14,941 --> 01:20:16,576 and this 6085 01:20:16,576 --> 01:20:16,976 ordinance from what exists. So 6086 01:20:16,976 --> 01:20:17,210 thank you 6087 01:20:17,210 --> 01:20:18,745 for 6088 01:20:18,745 --> 01:20:19,679 that. Any other 6089 01:20:19,679 --> 01:20:21,180 questions? I have a couple of 6090 01:20:21,180 --> 01:20:23,580 questions. I want to 6091 01:20:24,170 --> 01:20:24,152 echo 6092 01:20:24,152 --> 01:20:24,618 the 6093 01:20:24,618 --> 01:20:25,552 appreciation for 6094 01:20:25,552 --> 01:20:26,850 the 6095 01:20:26,850 --> 01:20:27,220 thoroughness, both 6096 01:20:27,220 --> 01:20:27,920 the 6097 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:28,550 COUNCILMAN And Councilor Ryan 6098 01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:28,388 . 6099 01:20:28,388 --> 01:20:30,388 Of uh 6100 01:20:31,190 --> 01:20:31,858 expressed. I 6101 01:20:31,858 --> 01:20:32,659 think that's 6102 01:20:32,659 --> 01:20:33,590 a, a, you know, you've done a 6103 01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:34,395 really good 6104 01:20:34,395 --> 01:20:34,528 job in terms of 6105 01:20:34,528 --> 01:20:35,194 the 6106 01:20:35,194 --> 01:20:35,662 mechanics of putting this whole 6107 01:20:35,662 --> 01:20:36,929 thing together 6108 01:20:36,929 --> 01:20:38,865 . Um 6109 01:20:38,865 --> 01:20:38,972 so I have a 6110 01:20:38,972 --> 01:20:39,199 , 6111 01:20:39,199 --> 01:20:41,199 a 6112 01:20:41,535 --> 01:20:41,968 , uh, a hypothetical, um 6113 01:20:41,968 --> 01:20:42,302 . And 6114 01:20:42,302 --> 01:20:43,269 it's 6115 01:20:43,269 --> 01:20:43,803 not 6116 01:20:43,803 --> 01:20:44,237 particularly 6117 01:20:44,237 --> 01:20:45,738 hypothetical 6118 01:20:45,738 --> 01:20:46,720 . Um, so you 6119 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:47,841 have a 6120 01:20:47,841 --> 01:20:48,575 uh, driveway 6121 01:20:48,575 --> 01:20:48,741 , uh, that 6122 01:20:48,741 --> 01:20:49,420 has 4 6123 01:20:49,420 --> 01:20:50,810 cars 6124 01:20:50,810 --> 01:20:51,144 . The 6125 01:20:51,144 --> 01:20:52,780 two that 6126 01:20:52,780 --> 01:20:52,312 are nearest 6127 01:20:52,312 --> 01:20:52,545 to 6128 01:20:52,545 --> 01:20:52,812 the 6129 01:20:52,812 --> 01:20:53,213 the 6130 01:20:53,213 --> 01:20:54,481 garage in 6131 01:20:54,481 --> 01:20:54,914 the 6132 01:20:54,914 --> 01:20:55,849 driveway are 6133 01:20:55,849 --> 01:20:57,117 clearly undrivable 6134 01:20:57,117 --> 01:20:59,117 Flat tires 6135 01:20:59,152 --> 01:20:59,819 you know 6136 01:20:59,819 --> 01:21:00,253 , uh, 6137 01:21:00,253 --> 01:21:01,355 license plate 6138 01:21:01,355 --> 01:21:01,755 from another 6139 01:21:01,755 --> 01:21:02,222 state from 6140 01:21:02,222 --> 01:21:03,423 another 6141 01:21:03,423 --> 01:21:03,590 decade 6142 01:21:03,590 --> 01:21:03,990 , um, 6143 01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:04,257 but there 6144 01:21:04,257 --> 01:21:04,557 are 6145 01:21:04,557 --> 01:21:05,925 two 6146 01:21:05,925 --> 01:21:06,493 operational 6147 01:21:06,493 --> 01:21:06,860 cars behind them 6148 01:21:06,860 --> 01:21:08,462 . And 6149 01:21:08,462 --> 01:21:09,295 those two 6150 01:21:09,295 --> 01:21:10,397 operational cars 6151 01:21:10,397 --> 01:21:10,730 , uh, you know 6152 01:21:10,730 --> 01:21:11,331 , 6153 01:21:11,331 --> 01:21:12,632 move periodically 6154 01:21:12,632 --> 01:21:13,266 and and uh 6155 01:21:13,266 --> 01:21:13,733 . 6156 01:21:13,733 --> 01:21:14,901 Uh when they're 6157 01:21:14,901 --> 01:21:15,235 in 6158 01:21:15,235 --> 01:21:16,690 the driveway 6159 01:21:16,690 --> 01:21:17,203 of course they're screening the 6160 01:21:17,203 --> 01:21:17,505 view, but when 6161 01:21:17,505 --> 01:21:18,710 the two 6162 01:21:18,710 --> 01:21:19,406 operational cars 6163 01:21:19,406 --> 01:21:19,673 are gone 6164 01:21:19,673 --> 01:21:20,140 , 6165 01:21:20,140 --> 01:21:22,140 you've got these 6166 01:21:24,144 --> 01:21:24,444 So 6167 01:21:24,444 --> 01:21:24,645 , is 6168 01:21:24,645 --> 01:21:25,780 your 6169 01:21:25,780 --> 01:21:26,312 question, can 6170 01:21:26,312 --> 01:21:27,130 you temporarily, 6171 01:21:27,130 --> 01:21:28,515 can you screen with a 6172 01:21:28,515 --> 01:21:29,115 temporary 6173 01:21:29,115 --> 01:21:30,851 obstacle? Right, and 6174 01:21:30,851 --> 01:21:30,974 , uh, also 6175 01:21:30,974 --> 01:21:31,384 , 6176 01:21:31,384 --> 01:21:33,353 and then the 6177 01:21:33,353 --> 01:21:33,987 matching question 6178 01:21:33,987 --> 01:21:35,222 is, are these going to 6179 01:21:35,222 --> 01:21:35,922 be 6180 01:21:35,922 --> 01:21:37,290 completely 6181 01:21:37,290 --> 01:21:37,891 complete 6182 01:21:37,891 --> 01:21:38,358 complaint-driven, or are they 6183 01:21:38,358 --> 01:21:40,270 going to be 6184 01:21:40,270 --> 01:21:40,594 uh, is this going 6185 01:21:40,594 --> 01:21:41,610 to be something where we're 6186 01:21:41,610 --> 01:21:42,596 going to have 6187 01:21:42,596 --> 01:21:44,980 people 6188 01:21:44,980 --> 01:21:44,631 driving 6189 01:21:44,631 --> 01:21:45,332 through the neighborhoods 6190 01:21:45,332 --> 01:21:46,600 definitely get both and we 6191 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:47,335 . 6192 01:21:47,335 --> 01:21:49,403 Most definitely stepped up the 6193 01:21:49,403 --> 01:21:50,300 proactive enforcement of the 6194 01:21:50,300 --> 01:21:51,972 lot of our ordinances 6195 01:21:51,972 --> 01:21:52,773 . Summer 6196 01:21:52,773 --> 01:21:53,206 , 6197 01:21:53,206 --> 01:21:53,707 so what 6198 01:21:53,707 --> 01:21:54,410 happens in, in 6199 01:21:54,410 --> 01:21:55,909 this 6200 01:21:55,909 --> 01:21:56,410 hypothetical, it's not 6201 01:21:56,410 --> 01:21:57,177 very 6202 01:21:57,177 --> 01:21:57,978 hypothetical hypothetical 6203 01:21:57,978 --> 01:21:58,545 . We 6204 01:21:58,545 --> 01:21:59,846 just continue to 6205 01:21:59,846 --> 01:22:00,381 monitor it 6206 01:22:00,381 --> 01:22:00,715 till we can 6207 01:22:00,715 --> 01:22:01,815 correctly 6208 01:22:01,815 --> 01:22:02,249 identify 6209 01:22:02,249 --> 01:22:02,549 it as such 6210 01:22:02,549 --> 01:22:02,849 . Take 6211 01:22:02,849 --> 01:22:03,830 the pictures 6212 01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:04,317 at 6213 01:22:04,317 --> 01:22:04,851 the time 6214 01:22:04,851 --> 01:22:05,118 , hopefully 6215 01:22:05,118 --> 01:22:06,253 when 6216 01:22:06,253 --> 01:22:06,987 the 6217 01:22:06,987 --> 01:22:08,922 operable vehicles are 6218 01:22:08,922 --> 01:22:09,556 . Say, 6219 01:22:09,556 --> 01:22:09,856 removed or out of the 6220 01:22:09,856 --> 01:22:11,525 way and 6221 01:22:11,525 --> 01:22:11,792 then we can identify it at 6222 01:22:11,792 --> 01:22:12,259 that 6223 01:22:12,259 --> 01:22:13,460 point. Now 6224 01:22:13,460 --> 01:22:13,961 in 6225 01:22:13,961 --> 01:22:14,528 this in this 6226 01:22:14,528 --> 01:22:15,996 particular instance 6227 01:22:15,996 --> 01:22:16,130 , maybe 6228 01:22:16,130 --> 01:22:16,530 been 6229 01:22:16,530 --> 01:22:18,198 more than 6230 01:22:18,198 --> 01:22:18,465 a decade 6231 01:22:18,465 --> 01:22:18,665 where 6232 01:22:18,665 --> 01:22:19,299 those 6233 01:22:19,299 --> 01:22:20,535 vehicles have been there 6234 01:22:20,535 --> 01:22:21,680 . In 6235 01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:22,670 the driveway 6236 01:22:22,670 --> 01:22:23,270 not moving. So 6237 01:22:23,270 --> 01:22:24,571 this sounds like 6238 01:22:24,571 --> 01:22:24,771 a 6239 01:22:24,771 --> 01:22:25,372 uh 6240 01:22:25,372 --> 01:22:25,639 complaint-driven enforcement. 6241 01:22:25,639 --> 01:22:27,700 It's 6242 01:22:27,700 --> 01:22:27,341 just 6243 01:22:27,341 --> 01:22:27,741 , I'm 6244 01:22:27,741 --> 01:22:28,108 not making a 6245 01:22:28,108 --> 01:22:29,710 complaint 6246 01:22:29,710 --> 01:22:30,100 . I'm just, you know, 6247 01:22:30,100 --> 01:22:32,100 can 6248 01:22:32,379 --> 01:22:33,480 a citizen 6249 01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:33,780 . Can 6250 01:22:33,780 --> 01:22:34,114 the 6251 01:22:34,114 --> 01:22:34,415 citizen 6252 01:22:34,415 --> 01:22:34,915 take 6253 01:22:34,915 --> 01:22:35,983 a picture 6254 01:22:35,983 --> 01:22:36,450 of 6255 01:22:36,450 --> 01:22:36,558 when it's 6256 01:22:36,558 --> 01:22:36,917 not 6257 01:22:36,917 --> 01:22:37,585 blocking 6258 01:22:37,585 --> 01:22:38,252 to submit it 6259 01:22:38,252 --> 01:22:38,552 or do you 6260 01:22:38,552 --> 01:22:39,586 is 6261 01:22:39,586 --> 01:22:40,421 that sufficient or 6262 01:22:40,421 --> 01:22:40,721 do you 6263 01:22:40,721 --> 01:22:41,755 have 6264 01:22:41,755 --> 01:22:42,489 to physically see it on 6265 01:22:42,489 --> 01:22:43,157 , 6266 01:22:43,157 --> 01:22:43,490 um, visual, I mean 6267 01:22:43,490 --> 01:22:44,358 , a 6268 01:22:44,358 --> 01:22:44,825 physical 6269 01:22:44,825 --> 01:22:45,259 inspection. We 6270 01:22:45,259 --> 01:22:46,930 have 6271 01:22:46,930 --> 01:22:46,860 a 6272 01:22:46,860 --> 01:22:48,860 policy on 6273 01:22:49,764 --> 01:22:50,131 citizen photographs. We use 6274 01:22:50,131 --> 01:22:51,665 them to 6275 01:22:51,665 --> 01:22:52,533 help identify things, 6276 01:22:52,533 --> 01:22:53,868 but we could use them in any 6277 01:22:53,868 --> 01:22:54,301 sort 6278 01:22:54,301 --> 01:22:55,836 of prosecution 6279 01:22:55,836 --> 01:22:56,637 . The 6280 01:22:56,637 --> 01:22:58,305 officer, the code enforcement 6281 01:22:58,305 --> 01:22:59,139 . 6282 01:22:59,139 --> 01:22:59,506 Code compliance officer has to 6283 01:22:59,506 --> 01:23:00,741 witness 6284 01:23:00,741 --> 01:23:01,410 the 6285 01:23:01,410 --> 01:23:01,208 offense 6286 01:23:01,208 --> 01:23:01,809 because 6287 01:23:01,809 --> 01:23:02,209 they could be called 6288 01:23:02,209 --> 01:23:03,811 to testify 6289 01:23:03,811 --> 01:23:05,546 to those facts 6290 01:23:05,546 --> 01:23:06,130 and findings 6291 01:23:06,130 --> 01:23:07,581 . If 6292 01:23:07,581 --> 01:23:08,248 they didn't take the picture, 6293 01:23:08,248 --> 01:23:09,350 they can't testify to that 6294 01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:10,251 . So 6295 01:23:10,251 --> 01:23:10,518 , 6296 01:23:10,518 --> 01:23:12,319 So 6297 01:23:12,319 --> 01:23:12,501 if you can see it from 6298 01:23:12,501 --> 01:23:13,200 a 6299 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:13,787 certain point of view 6300 01:23:13,787 --> 01:23:14,555 that 6301 01:23:14,555 --> 01:23:14,922 there's flat tires and whatnot. 6302 01:23:14,922 --> 01:23:16,357 I, I'm 6303 01:23:16,357 --> 01:23:17,250 just wondering you 6304 01:23:17,250 --> 01:23:17,491 mentioned earlier it has to be 6305 01:23:17,491 --> 01:23:18,692 seen from the 6306 01:23:18,692 --> 01:23:18,926 right of 6307 01:23:18,926 --> 01:23:19,693 way 6308 01:23:19,693 --> 01:23:20,661 without any assistance 6309 01:23:20,661 --> 01:23:20,894 , so 6310 01:23:20,894 --> 01:23:21,362 you 6311 01:23:21,362 --> 01:23:21,729 can't be 6312 01:23:21,729 --> 01:23:22,620 sure 6313 01:23:22,620 --> 01:23:23,197 if 6314 01:23:23,197 --> 01:23:23,831 that person 6315 01:23:23,831 --> 01:23:24,640 was, you know, from 6316 01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:24,465 their 6317 01:23:24,465 --> 01:23:25,566 window or 6318 01:23:25,566 --> 01:23:26,167 on 6319 01:23:26,167 --> 01:23:26,500 private property 6320 01:23:26,500 --> 01:23:26,867 or if 6321 01:23:26,867 --> 01:23:27,201 they used 6322 01:23:27,201 --> 01:23:27,668 their 6323 01:23:27,668 --> 01:23:28,690 Zoom, so 6324 01:23:28,690 --> 01:23:28,869 yeah, it 6325 01:23:28,869 --> 01:23:30,370 would 6326 01:23:30,370 --> 01:23:30,504 be 6327 01:23:30,504 --> 01:23:30,805 that 6328 01:23:30,805 --> 01:23:31,405 such 6329 01:23:31,405 --> 01:23:31,872 information would be 6330 01:23:31,872 --> 01:23:32,540 useful in 6331 01:23:32,540 --> 01:23:32,773 helping 6332 01:23:32,773 --> 01:23:33,341 to 6333 01:23:33,341 --> 01:23:33,841 identify 6334 01:23:33,841 --> 01:23:34,675 and create 6335 01:23:34,675 --> 01:23:35,109 the complaint, but 6336 01:23:35,109 --> 01:23:35,543 not 6337 01:23:35,543 --> 01:23:36,477 in 6338 01:23:36,477 --> 01:23:37,311 the 6339 01:23:37,311 --> 01:23:37,745 enforcement at least it gives 6340 01:23:37,745 --> 01:23:38,246 us, ok 6341 01:23:38,246 --> 01:23:38,546 , I'm looking 6342 01:23:38,546 --> 01:23:39,800 for 6343 01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:39,480 a 6344 01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:39,847 red 6345 01:23:39,847 --> 01:23:40,147 vehicle 6346 01:23:40,147 --> 01:23:41,348 at 6347 01:23:41,348 --> 01:23:42,550 this location. Mhm 6348 01:23:42,550 --> 01:23:43,585 Helps us 6349 01:23:43,585 --> 01:23:43,724 narrow them down 6350 01:23:43,724 --> 01:23:44,180 . So 6351 01:23:44,180 --> 01:23:45,386 melody 6352 01:23:45,386 --> 01:23:45,719 , we've 6353 01:23:45,719 --> 01:23:46,540 had folks 6354 01:23:46,540 --> 01:23:46,353 who've 6355 01:23:46,353 --> 01:23:48,220 had 6356 01:23:48,220 --> 01:23:48,355 even one property 6357 01:23:48,355 --> 01:23:48,856 . Off of 6358 01:23:48,856 --> 01:23:50,758 Coy lane that 6359 01:23:50,758 --> 01:23:50,925 had hundreds 6360 01:23:50,925 --> 01:23:51,258 , 6361 01:23:51,258 --> 01:23:52,827 hundreds 6362 01:23:52,827 --> 01:23:54,628 . Of 6363 01:23:54,628 --> 01:23:55,263 these vehicles on 6364 01:23:55,263 --> 01:23:57,310 the property 6365 01:23:57,310 --> 01:23:57,498 , but they could 6366 01:23:57,498 --> 01:23:59,498 not be seen 6367 01:23:59,868 --> 01:24:01,303 . Yeah 6368 01:24:01,303 --> 01:24:01,536 . So 6369 01:24:01,536 --> 01:24:01,736 it 6370 01:24:01,736 --> 01:24:02,503 wasn't 6371 01:24:02,503 --> 01:24:03,471 until someone else bought 6372 01:24:03,471 --> 01:24:03,838 the 6373 01:24:03,838 --> 01:24:04,272 property 6374 01:24:04,272 --> 01:24:06,272 . And 6375 01:24:06,674 --> 01:24:06,941 removed 6376 01:24:06,941 --> 01:24:08,109 those 6377 01:24:08,109 --> 01:24:08,809 hundreds 6378 01:24:08,809 --> 01:24:10,245 of vehicles do we 6379 01:24:10,245 --> 01:24:10,978 even 6380 01:24:10,978 --> 01:24:11,345 know that was existed over 6381 01:24:11,345 --> 01:24:12,780 there. We 6382 01:24:12,780 --> 01:24:13,181 have another place on 6383 01:24:13,181 --> 01:24:15,181 uh, near 6384 01:24:15,583 --> 01:24:16,517 , um, Emmanuel, that's 6385 01:24:16,517 --> 01:24:17,185 that's the next one 6386 01:24:17,185 --> 01:24:17,885 , so we have 6387 01:24:17,885 --> 01:24:18,653 to play something manual on 6388 01:24:18,653 --> 01:24:20,540 Wells 6389 01:24:20,540 --> 01:24:20,855 branch where 6390 01:24:20,855 --> 01:24:21,522 lots 6391 01:24:21,522 --> 01:24:21,889 of 6392 01:24:21,889 --> 01:24:22,590 projects 6393 01:24:22,590 --> 01:24:24,158 , and somebody 6394 01:24:24,158 --> 01:24:24,892 how did, 6395 01:24:24,892 --> 01:24:26,294 how, how do we put it 6396 01:24:26,294 --> 01:24:28,290 , um 6397 01:24:28,290 --> 01:24:28,796 . I'm 6398 01:24:28,796 --> 01:24:30,364 not gonna say threatened 6399 01:24:30,364 --> 01:24:30,898 . But 6400 01:24:30,898 --> 01:24:31,165 stated that if we 6401 01:24:31,165 --> 01:24:31,599 wouldn't 6402 01:24:31,599 --> 01:24:33,301 allow for a 6403 01:24:33,301 --> 01:24:33,448 rezoning to happen 6404 01:24:33,448 --> 01:24:34,102 , 6405 01:24:34,102 --> 01:24:35,404 it would continue to house 6406 01:24:35,404 --> 01:24:35,903 . A 6407 01:24:35,903 --> 01:24:37,405 lot of 6408 01:24:37,405 --> 01:24:39,405 junker vehicles 6409 01:24:39,775 --> 01:24:40,608 . There 6410 01:24:40,608 --> 01:24:41,743 there, ok. Any other 6411 01:24:41,743 --> 01:24:42,377 , uh, 6412 01:24:42,377 --> 01:24:42,877 questions from counsel. Uh, 6413 01:24:42,877 --> 01:24:44,112 David, was that 6414 01:24:44,112 --> 01:24:44,879 that was your 6415 01:24:44,879 --> 01:24:45,179 too? That was my 2. Thank you 6416 01:24:45,179 --> 01:24:46,280 very 6417 01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:46,748 much 6418 01:24:46,748 --> 01:24:47,810 . Excellent job. All 6419 01:24:47,810 --> 01:24:47,548 right 6420 01:24:47,548 --> 01:24:48,916 , uh, and 6421 01:24:48,916 --> 01:24:49,384 to remind the 6422 01:24:49,384 --> 01:24:49,751 public, this is 6423 01:24:49,751 --> 01:24:50,885 a public 6424 01:24:50,885 --> 01:24:51,352 hearing 6425 01:24:51,352 --> 01:24:51,853 . Is 6426 01:24:51,853 --> 01:24:51,986 there anyone 6427 01:24:51,986 --> 01:24:52,287 from 6428 01:24:52,287 --> 01:24:53,688 the 6429 01:24:53,688 --> 01:24:53,955 public wishing to speak 6430 01:24:53,955 --> 01:24:54,389 on 6431 01:24:54,389 --> 01:24:56,389 this topic 6432 01:24:56,391 --> 01:24:57,558 . Looks like I've 6433 01:24:57,558 --> 01:24:58,359 got 6434 01:24:58,359 --> 01:24:58,760 someone interested in speaking 6435 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,328 on the topic 6436 01:25:00,328 --> 01:25:00,728 . All right 6437 01:25:00,728 --> 01:25:02,363 ok 6438 01:25:02,363 --> 01:25:03,310 . I 6439 01:25:03,310 --> 01:25:04,966 think she's gonna speak 6440 01:25:04,966 --> 01:25:05,233 against 6441 01:25:05,233 --> 01:25:07,100 it 6442 01:25:07,100 --> 01:25:09,100 . Ms 6443 01:25:09,171 --> 01:25:09,571 . Dunbar 6444 01:25:09,571 --> 01:25:09,805 Crespo. Have 6445 01:25:09,805 --> 01:25:10,710 you 6446 01:25:10,710 --> 01:25:11,239 had 6447 01:25:11,239 --> 01:25:11,973 stepped forward and 6448 01:25:11,973 --> 01:25:12,307 introduce yourself? Yes, 6449 01:25:12,307 --> 01:25:13,374 fitting 6450 01:25:13,374 --> 01:25:13,775 and 6451 01:25:13,775 --> 01:25:14,576 marrying council 6452 01:25:14,576 --> 01:25:16,311 city manager. My name is Ursha 6453 01:25:16,311 --> 01:25:16,644 Dunbar Crestha. I am 6454 01:25:16,644 --> 01:25:16,978 a Hoville 6455 01:25:16,978 --> 01:25:18,780 resident 6456 01:25:18,780 --> 01:25:19,914 . And I really have 6457 01:25:19,914 --> 01:25:20,648 a 6458 01:25:20,648 --> 01:25:21,216 clarification question more 6459 01:25:21,216 --> 01:25:23,216 than anything else 6460 01:25:23,451 --> 01:25:23,952 . In 6461 01:25:23,952 --> 01:25:25,553 the 6462 01:25:25,553 --> 01:25:25,887 definitions under 6463 01:25:25,887 --> 01:25:26,455 paragraph 6464 01:25:26,455 --> 01:25:27,689 93.01 6465 01:25:27,689 --> 01:25:29,357 . It 6466 01:25:29,357 --> 01:25:29,791 allows a vehicle 6467 01:25:29,791 --> 01:25:30,225 , an 6468 01:25:30,225 --> 01:25:31,660 additional 6469 01:25:31,660 --> 01:25:31,809 24 hours for 6470 01:25:31,809 --> 01:25:32,293 a 6471 01:25:32,293 --> 01:25:33,695 vehicle before 6472 01:25:33,695 --> 01:25:33,862 it's defined 6473 01:25:33,862 --> 01:25:34,229 as 6474 01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:36,310 inoperable 6475 01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:36,364 . And also the 6476 01:25:36,364 --> 01:25:36,898 number 6477 01:25:36,898 --> 01:25:38,600 of 6478 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:38,833 days changed from 6479 01:25:38,833 --> 01:25:39,135 14 6480 01:25:39,135 --> 01:25:40,235 days 6481 01:25:40,235 --> 01:25:40,568 to 6482 01:25:40,568 --> 01:25:41,369 30 days 6483 01:25:41,369 --> 01:25:42,404 . So we do have 6484 01:25:42,404 --> 01:25:42,771 a 6485 01:25:42,771 --> 01:25:43,710 problem 6486 01:25:43,710 --> 01:25:43,438 with 6487 01:25:43,438 --> 01:25:45,730 inoperable 6488 01:25:45,730 --> 01:25:45,573 vehicles in the city of 6489 01:25:45,573 --> 01:25:46,975 Flugville, so I 6490 01:25:46,975 --> 01:25:47,308 was 6491 01:25:47,308 --> 01:25:47,776 more 6492 01:25:47,776 --> 01:25:48,143 wondering 6493 01:25:48,143 --> 01:25:49,611 why 6494 01:25:49,611 --> 01:25:49,911 those 6495 01:25:49,911 --> 01:25:50,245 additional 6496 01:25:50,245 --> 01:25:50,512 days and 6497 01:25:50,512 --> 01:25:51,746 hours 6498 01:25:51,746 --> 01:25:52,314 were allowed. Do 6499 01:25:52,314 --> 01:25:53,748 you have more time 6500 01:25:53,748 --> 01:25:54,483 . That's more 6501 01:25:54,483 --> 01:25:54,683 in line with state statutes 6502 01:25:54,683 --> 01:25:55,830 , 6503 01:25:55,830 --> 01:25:57,830 ma'am. Um 6504 01:25:59,455 --> 01:25:59,754 . Mic, we need to give 6505 01:25:59,754 --> 01:26:01,156 them 6506 01:26:01,156 --> 01:26:01,590 an opportunity to fix it 6507 01:26:01,590 --> 01:26:01,890 so they can 6508 01:26:01,890 --> 01:26:02,858 get it 6509 01:26:02,858 --> 01:26:03,910 out 6510 01:26:03,910 --> 01:26:03,291 of 6511 01:26:03,291 --> 01:26:03,726 there 6512 01:26:03,726 --> 01:26:05,427 Well, it, it's 6513 01:26:05,427 --> 01:26:05,660 just 6514 01:26:05,660 --> 01:26:06,428 the 6515 01:26:06,428 --> 01:26:06,761 identification of it to make 6516 01:26:06,761 --> 01:26:07,996 sure it 6517 01:26:07,996 --> 01:26:08,163 is truly a junk 6518 01:26:08,163 --> 01:26:08,430 vehicle 6519 01:26:08,430 --> 01:26:08,965 Uh 6520 01:26:08,965 --> 01:26:10,132 , municipalities 6521 01:26:10,132 --> 01:26:10,298 can be 6522 01:26:10,298 --> 01:26:10,799 more 6523 01:26:10,799 --> 01:26:12,235 strict than state 6524 01:26:12,235 --> 01:26:12,968 but in some 6525 01:26:12,968 --> 01:26:13,502 cases, you just want to go with 6526 01:26:13,502 --> 01:26:14,669 the state standard 6527 01:26:14,669 --> 01:26:14,803 , and I 6528 01:26:14,803 --> 01:26:15,303 think 6529 01:26:15,303 --> 01:26:15,737 this is one of 6530 01:26:15,737 --> 01:26:17,238 those cases 6531 01:26:17,238 --> 01:26:17,906 . You 6532 01:26:17,906 --> 01:26:18,607 don't want to jump the 6533 01:26:18,607 --> 01:26:19,740 gun on 6534 01:26:19,740 --> 01:26:21,740 it, yeah. Yeah 6535 01:26:21,309 --> 01:26:21,805 . So 6536 01:26:21,805 --> 01:26:21,943 how often do 6537 01:26:21,943 --> 01:26:23,943 we 6538 01:26:23,979 --> 01:26:24,513 have vehicles um that are 6539 01:26:24,513 --> 01:26:26,115 abandoned on 6540 01:26:26,115 --> 01:26:26,716 public prop I mean 6541 01:26:26,716 --> 01:26:27,115 public property 6542 01:26:27,115 --> 01:26:28,183 , not public 6543 01:26:28,183 --> 01:26:28,817 right of way 6544 01:26:28,817 --> 01:26:29,584 . I'm assuming that 6545 01:26:29,584 --> 01:26:32,584 this applies to the 72 hours 6546 01:26:32,855 --> 01:26:32,988 Public property would still 6547 01:26:32,988 --> 01:26:33,221 be 6548 01:26:33,221 --> 01:26:34,690 pd 6549 01:26:34,690 --> 01:26:35,230 . They 6550 01:26:35,230 --> 01:26:35,557 can tow 6551 01:26:35,557 --> 01:26:36,758 those 6552 01:26:36,758 --> 01:26:37,920 within 6553 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:37,726 72 hours 6554 01:26:37,726 --> 01:26:38,600 , I believe, and that'd 6555 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:38,961 be like 6556 01:26:38,961 --> 01:26:39,528 a 6557 01:26:39,528 --> 01:26:39,861 park parking 6558 01:26:39,861 --> 01:26:40,228 lot. 6559 01:26:40,228 --> 01:26:42,228 Correct 6560 01:26:44,266 --> 01:26:44,867 . Um 6561 01:26:44,867 --> 01:26:45,667 , again, this is 6562 01:26:45,667 --> 01:26:46,302 a 6563 01:26:46,302 --> 01:26:46,668 public hearing. Is there anyone 6564 01:26:46,668 --> 01:26:47,680 else in 6565 01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:48,203 the public 6566 01:26:48,203 --> 01:26:48,805 wishing to 6567 01:26:48,805 --> 01:26:50,639 make public comment 6568 01:26:50,639 --> 01:26:51,206 . And Urcha, 6569 01:26:51,206 --> 01:26:51,540 did you get your question 6570 01:26:51,540 --> 01:26:53,141 answered 6571 01:26:53,141 --> 01:26:53,408 ? You wanna come up and 6572 01:26:53,408 --> 01:26:54,877 make 6573 01:26:54,877 --> 01:26:55,345 more 6574 01:26:55,345 --> 01:26:55,711 comment comment 6575 01:26:55,711 --> 01:26:56,450 . Not 6576 01:26:56,450 --> 01:26:57,790 exactly 6577 01:26:57,790 --> 01:26:57,379 . Can you 6578 01:26:57,379 --> 01:26:57,646 give 6579 01:26:57,646 --> 01:26:57,880 me 6580 01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:58,347 the 6581 01:26:58,347 --> 01:26:59,748 specific 6582 01:26:59,748 --> 01:27:00,216 state statute 6583 01:27:00,216 --> 01:27:00,782 that 6584 01:27:00,782 --> 01:27:02,351 allows the 6585 01:27:02,351 --> 01:27:03,953 72 6586 01:27:03,953 --> 01:27:04,319 hours versus 6587 01:27:04,319 --> 01:27:04,553 the 6588 01:27:04,553 --> 01:27:04,886 48 6589 01:27:04,886 --> 01:27:05,220 and I'll 6590 01:27:05,220 --> 01:27:06,155 have to 6591 01:27:06,155 --> 01:27:06,555 email that 6592 01:27:06,555 --> 01:27:07,356 to you I 6593 01:27:07,356 --> 01:27:08,223 would appreciate that 6594 01:27:08,223 --> 01:27:08,825 . 6595 01:27:08,825 --> 01:27:09,258 I'm a part of a 6596 01:27:09,258 --> 01:27:10,959 homeowners 6597 01:27:10,959 --> 01:27:11,326 association and we deal with 6598 01:27:11,326 --> 01:27:11,660 this all 6599 01:27:11,660 --> 01:27:12,995 the time 6600 01:27:12,995 --> 01:27:13,762 , so it's just 6601 01:27:13,762 --> 01:27:14,630 gonna make it that much 6602 01:27:14,630 --> 01:27:15,631 more 6603 01:27:15,631 --> 01:27:16,650 difficult for us 6604 01:27:16,650 --> 01:27:17,266 . If 6605 01:27:17,266 --> 01:27:17,667 now 6606 01:27:17,667 --> 01:27:19,435 someone has 6607 01:27:19,435 --> 01:27:19,702 all 6608 01:27:19,702 --> 01:27:19,968 those 6609 01:27:19,968 --> 01:27:20,269 16 6610 01:27:20,269 --> 01:27:20,703 extra 6611 01:27:20,703 --> 01:27:22,538 days to 6612 01:27:22,538 --> 01:27:22,838 deal with an 6613 01:27:22,838 --> 01:27:23,339 inoperable 6614 01:27:23,339 --> 01:27:24,239 vehicle, and you 6615 01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:24,440 do see 6616 01:27:24,440 --> 01:27:25,207 them 6617 01:27:25,207 --> 01:27:26,775 drive around, you see them in 6618 01:27:26,775 --> 01:27:27,176 the driveways 6619 01:27:27,176 --> 01:27:27,376 . So yeah 6620 01:27:27,376 --> 01:27:27,743 , if you 6621 01:27:27,743 --> 01:27:28,644 can give 6622 01:27:28,644 --> 01:27:29,312 me 6623 01:27:29,312 --> 01:27:29,945 the reference, I'd 6624 01:27:29,945 --> 01:27:31,213 appreciate it 6625 01:27:31,213 --> 01:27:31,613 and we can go 6626 01:27:31,613 --> 01:27:32,247 from there 6627 01:27:32,247 --> 01:27:32,448 . After this 6628 01:27:32,448 --> 01:27:32,781 , I. All 6629 01:27:32,781 --> 01:27:33,416 right 6630 01:27:33,416 --> 01:27:33,782 . Get 6631 01:27:33,782 --> 01:27:34,683 you my 6632 01:27:34,683 --> 01:27:35,217 contact info 6633 01:27:35,217 --> 01:27:35,484 . 6634 01:27:35,484 --> 01:27:35,885 And 6635 01:27:35,885 --> 01:27:36,218 with most 6636 01:27:36,218 --> 01:27:36,552 , uh, as 6637 01:27:36,552 --> 01:27:36,819 with 6638 01:27:36,819 --> 01:27:37,219 most 6639 01:27:37,219 --> 01:27:37,853 ordinances 6640 01:27:37,853 --> 01:27:38,320 , this will 6641 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:38,888 require a 6642 01:27:38,888 --> 01:27:39,688 2nd year. Or 6643 01:27:39,688 --> 01:27:39,989 a 6644 01:27:39,989 --> 01:27:40,289 2nd 6645 01:27:40,289 --> 01:27:40,478 reading 6646 01:27:40,478 --> 01:27:40,756 , 6647 01:27:40,756 --> 01:27:42,525 pardon me 6648 01:27:42,525 --> 01:27:42,892 to close public 6649 01:27:42,892 --> 01:27:43,325 comment 6650 01:27:43,325 --> 01:27:44,493 . I have 6651 01:27:44,493 --> 01:27:45,160 a motion to 6652 01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:46,796 close the public comment 6653 01:27:46,796 --> 01:27:47,363 . 6654 01:27:47,363 --> 01:27:47,696 Second, no, I already, I'm 6655 01:27:47,696 --> 01:27:49,398 sorry 6656 01:27:49,398 --> 01:27:49,698 , I got a second from Kim 6657 01:27:49,698 --> 01:27:49,965 . 6658 01:27:49,965 --> 01:27:51,965 00 6659 01:27:52,367 --> 01:27:54,367 . Ok 6660 01:27:56,572 --> 01:27:58,400 Uh 6661 01:27:58,400 --> 01:27:58,307 , all right 6662 01:27:58,307 --> 01:27:59,410 , uh, 6663 01:27:59,410 --> 01:28:00,910 public comment is closed. We 6664 01:28:00,910 --> 01:28:02,878 have a ordinance before us 6665 01:28:02,878 --> 01:28:03,379 . 6666 01:28:03,379 --> 01:28:05,181 Moves to adopt 6667 01:28:05,181 --> 01:28:05,515 Second 6668 01:28:05,515 --> 01:28:05,915 , a motion 6669 01:28:05,915 --> 01:28:06,982 from David 6670 01:28:06,982 --> 01:28:07,116 and 2nd 6671 01:28:07,116 --> 01:28:07,483 from 6672 01:28:07,483 --> 01:28:09,483 Jonathan 6673 01:28:19,295 --> 01:28:20,830 . Motion 6674 01:28:20,830 --> 01:28:21,263 passes 6675 01:28:21,263 --> 01:28:21,631 unanimously 6676 01:28:21,631 --> 01:28:22,798 . All right 6677 01:28:22,798 --> 01:28:23,399 , Robert, 6678 01:28:23,399 --> 01:28:25,100 don't go far. I've got 6679 01:28:25,100 --> 01:28:25,636 , uh, 6680 01:28:25,636 --> 01:28:25,935 this one's a little shorter to 6681 01:28:25,935 --> 01:28:27,570 read 6682 01:28:27,570 --> 01:28:28,205 . Uh 6683 01:28:28,205 --> 01:28:29,505 , item 7c 6684 01:28:29,505 --> 01:28:29,972 conduct a 6685 01:28:29,972 --> 01:28:30,240 public hearing 6686 01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:31,507 and 6687 01:28:31,507 --> 01:28:32,175 consider 6688 01:28:32,175 --> 01:28:32,708 approving an ordinance on first 6689 01:28:32,708 --> 01:28:33,760 greeting with the caption 6690 01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:34,277 reading 6691 01:28:34,277 --> 01:28:35,770 and ordinance of the 6692 01:28:35,770 --> 01:28:35,226 City of Flugerville, Texas 6693 01:28:35,226 --> 01:28:35,546 , 6694 01:28:35,546 --> 01:28:36,279 repealing 6695 01:28:36,279 --> 01:28:36,712 and 6696 01:28:36,712 --> 01:28:36,913 replacing 6697 01:28:36,913 --> 01:28:37,179 Chapter 6698 01:28:37,179 --> 01:28:39,179 92 6699 01:28:39,415 --> 01:28:39,749 , Helton Sanitation of 6700 01:28:39,749 --> 01:28:40,650 the 6701 01:28:40,650 --> 01:28:41,517 of 6702 01:28:41,517 --> 01:28:41,685 ordinances providing 6703 01:28:41,685 --> 01:28:42,318 for 6704 01:28:42,318 --> 01:28:42,919 procedures, penalties 6705 01:28:42,919 --> 01:28:43,252 , and 6706 01:28:43,252 --> 01:28:44,187 remedies 6707 01:28:44,187 --> 01:28:44,821 , and providing an 6708 01:28:44,821 --> 01:28:46,155 effective date 6709 01:28:46,155 --> 01:28:47,623 . It's all you 6710 01:28:47,623 --> 01:28:48,250 , 6711 01:28:48,250 --> 01:28:49,693 Robert. Ok 6712 01:28:49,693 --> 01:28:49,926 This 6713 01:28:49,926 --> 01:28:50,126 is 6714 01:28:50,126 --> 01:28:50,626 another 6715 01:28:50,626 --> 01:28:51,761 restructuring of 6716 01:28:51,761 --> 01:28:52,395 this 6717 01:28:52,395 --> 01:28:52,695 particular public 6718 01:28:52,695 --> 01:28:53,229 nuisance 6719 01:28:53,229 --> 01:28:54,297 ordinance. Again 6720 01:28:54,297 --> 01:28:54,897 , the ordinance 6721 01:28:54,897 --> 01:28:55,198 has not been 6722 01:28:55,198 --> 01:28:56,466 updated 6723 01:28:56,466 --> 01:28:56,666 since 6724 01:28:56,666 --> 01:28:56,966 2007 6725 01:28:56,966 --> 01:28:57,333 It had 6726 01:28:57,333 --> 01:28:58,935 a 6727 01:28:58,935 --> 01:28:59,502 standalone section 6728 01:28:59,502 --> 01:28:59,936 addressing wells 6729 01:28:59,936 --> 01:29:01,300 and 6730 01:29:01,300 --> 01:29:01,154 cisterns 6731 01:29:01,154 --> 01:29:01,471 , 6732 01:29:01,471 --> 01:29:01,871 which 6733 01:29:01,871 --> 01:29:03,373 were removed 6734 01:29:03,373 --> 01:29:03,973 and 6735 01:29:03,973 --> 01:29:04,185 consolidated under the 6736 01:29:04,185 --> 01:29:04,640 broader 6737 01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:05,410 definition of 6738 01:29:05,410 --> 01:29:06,750 a nuisance 6739 01:29:06,750 --> 01:29:06,542 . 6740 01:29:06,542 --> 01:29:07,710 Before, in the 6741 01:29:07,710 --> 01:29:08,177 old ordinance, 6742 01:29:08,177 --> 01:29:08,411 high weeds 6743 01:29:08,411 --> 01:29:08,778 and 6744 01:29:08,778 --> 01:29:10,460 grass were 6745 01:29:10,460 --> 01:29:10,380 part 6746 01:29:10,380 --> 01:29:10,613 of 6747 01:29:10,613 --> 01:29:11,147 the 6748 01:29:11,147 --> 01:29:13,160 public nuisance 6749 01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,160 . Um 6750 01:29:15,385 --> 01:29:16,920 delineated articles. It, it has 6751 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:17,520 now 6752 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:17,754 been separated into its 6753 01:29:17,754 --> 01:29:18,288 own 6754 01:29:18,288 --> 01:29:19,722 Article One 6755 01:29:19,722 --> 01:29:19,989 . Providing 6756 01:29:19,989 --> 01:29:20,456 clear 6757 01:29:20,456 --> 01:29:21,424 identification 6758 01:29:21,424 --> 01:29:21,758 of 6759 01:29:21,758 --> 01:29:22,258 responsible 6760 01:29:22,258 --> 01:29:22,659 parties and 6761 01:29:22,659 --> 01:29:23,993 specifying 6762 01:29:23,993 --> 01:29:24,395 locations where conditions are 6763 01:29:24,395 --> 01:29:26,395 prohibited 6764 01:29:26,462 --> 01:29:27,630 . High weeds and 6765 01:29:27,630 --> 01:29:27,897 grass provisions 6766 01:29:27,897 --> 01:29:28,264 now 6767 01:29:28,264 --> 01:29:28,531 reference 6768 01:29:28,531 --> 01:29:29,366 the 6769 01:29:29,366 --> 01:29:30,400 standardized notification 6770 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:31,267 and 6771 01:29:31,267 --> 01:29:32,469 enforcement 6772 01:29:32,469 --> 01:29:32,970 procedures in 6773 01:29:32,970 --> 01:29:33,770 Article ii 6774 01:29:33,770 --> 01:29:34,637 , Section 9213 6775 01:29:34,637 --> 01:29:35,710 , as 6776 01:29:35,710 --> 01:29:35,305 well as 6777 01:29:35,305 --> 01:29:35,772 a 6778 01:29:35,772 --> 01:29:36,206 penalty 6779 01:29:36,206 --> 01:29:38,206 provisions in 6780 01:29:39,709 --> 01:29:40,477 Article 39214 6781 01:29:40,477 --> 01:29:41,444 . The 6782 01:29:41,444 --> 01:29:42,178 subjective 6783 01:29:42,178 --> 01:29:42,745 language previously used to 6784 01:29:42,745 --> 01:29:43,847 describe nuisances 6785 01:29:43,847 --> 01:29:44,348 has been 6786 01:29:44,348 --> 01:29:44,615 replaced with 6787 01:29:44,615 --> 01:29:45,882 more 6788 01:29:45,882 --> 01:29:46,149 objective 6789 01:29:46,149 --> 01:29:46,916 and 6790 01:29:46,916 --> 01:29:47,216 specific descriptions and 6791 01:29:47,216 --> 01:29:48,285 the 6792 01:29:48,285 --> 01:29:48,551 scope 6793 01:29:48,551 --> 01:29:49,519 has 6794 01:29:49,519 --> 01:29:50,855 been 6795 01:29:50,855 --> 01:29:51,855 expanded to 6796 01:29:51,855 --> 01:29:53,156 include miscellaneous 6797 01:29:53,156 --> 01:29:53,323 sanitation issues and 6798 01:29:53,323 --> 01:29:53,690 the 6799 01:29:53,690 --> 01:29:54,891 storage 6800 01:29:54,891 --> 01:29:55,392 of 6801 01:29:55,392 --> 01:29:57,392 discarded materials 6802 01:29:57,861 --> 01:29:58,561 uh consistent with the high 6803 01:29:58,561 --> 01:29:59,596 weeds and grass provisions 6804 01:29:59,596 --> 01:30:00,397 , the 6805 01:30:00,397 --> 01:30:01,498 public nuisance section is 6806 01:30:01,498 --> 01:30:01,898 our 6807 01:30:01,898 --> 01:30:02,499 reference 6808 01:30:02,499 --> 01:30:02,999 standardized 6809 01:30:02,999 --> 01:30:04,200 notification and 6810 01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:04,601 enforcement 6811 01:30:04,601 --> 01:30:06,601 procedures 6812 01:30:06,670 --> 01:30:06,870 . Notification 6813 01:30:06,870 --> 01:30:07,370 , 6814 01:30:07,370 --> 01:30:08,438 enforcement, and 6815 01:30:08,438 --> 01:30:08,939 penalty 6816 01:30:08,939 --> 01:30:09,372 procedures for 6817 01:30:09,372 --> 01:30:09,639 the nuisances 6818 01:30:09,639 --> 01:30:11,307 have 6819 01:30:11,307 --> 01:30:11,975 been separated into 6820 01:30:11,975 --> 01:30:13,510 distinct sections 6821 01:30:13,510 --> 01:30:14,177 and expanded 6822 01:30:14,177 --> 01:30:14,445 to more closely align 6823 01:30:14,445 --> 01:30:14,745 with the 6824 01:30:14,745 --> 01:30:15,778 state 6825 01:30:15,778 --> 01:30:16,112 . Uh 6826 01:30:16,112 --> 01:30:17,580 , one of 6827 01:30:17,580 --> 01:30:18,549 those 6828 01:30:18,549 --> 01:30:19,983 subjective references in 6829 01:30:19,983 --> 01:30:20,618 chapter 92 6830 01:30:20,618 --> 01:30:22,285 , Public 6831 01:30:22,285 --> 01:30:22,819 nuisance 6832 01:30:22,819 --> 01:30:24,421 definition stated 6833 01:30:24,421 --> 01:30:24,754 a 6834 01:30:24,754 --> 01:30:25,422 public 6835 01:30:25,422 --> 01:30:27,357 nuisance is something 6836 01:30:27,357 --> 01:30:27,925 that 6837 01:30:27,925 --> 01:30:28,758 greatly offends 6838 01:30:28,758 --> 01:30:29,250 the 6839 01:30:29,250 --> 01:30:29,559 public 6840 01:30:29,559 --> 01:30:31,559 morals and decency 6841 01:30:31,795 --> 01:30:32,960 . I 6842 01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:33,630 , I 6843 01:30:33,630 --> 01:30:34,831 can't 6844 01:30:34,831 --> 01:30:35,899 enforce that. You know 6845 01:30:35,899 --> 01:30:36,500 , I just 6846 01:30:36,500 --> 01:30:36,333 , 6847 01:30:36,333 --> 01:30:38,333 I can't 6848 01:30:39,169 --> 01:30:41,169 . 16 6849 01:30:43,807 --> 01:30:45,108 . Noxious weeds were 6850 01:30:45,108 --> 01:30:45,409 referenced in the 6851 01:30:45,409 --> 01:30:45,675 in the 6852 01:30:45,675 --> 01:30:47,177 high 6853 01:30:47,177 --> 01:30:47,611 weeds. What's 6854 01:30:47,611 --> 01:30:49,479 a noxious weed 6855 01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:49,880 ? I 6856 01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,880 don't know 6857 01:30:52,150 --> 01:30:52,215 Perhaps our 6858 01:30:52,215 --> 01:30:52,549 arborist 6859 01:30:52,549 --> 01:30:54,485 could 6860 01:30:54,485 --> 01:30:54,885 . I guess is that 6861 01:30:54,885 --> 01:30:56,553 that is 6862 01:30:56,553 --> 01:30:56,953 that that pollen? Because I 6863 01:30:56,953 --> 01:30:58,388 would love 6864 01:30:58,388 --> 01:30:58,855 to 6865 01:30:58,855 --> 01:30:59,423 outlaw. I don't 6866 01:30:59,423 --> 01:31:01,423 know. Don't outlaw 6867 01:31:01,592 --> 01:31:03,360 it 6868 01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:03,727 altogether. Just the 6869 01:31:03,727 --> 01:31:04,796 allergies 6870 01:31:04,796 --> 01:31:05,729 . 6871 01:31:05,729 --> 01:31:05,963 Another definition was uh of 6872 01:31:05,963 --> 01:31:06,663 a 6873 01:31:06,663 --> 01:31:07,631 public nuisance 6874 01:31:07,631 --> 01:31:08,399 is 6875 01:31:08,399 --> 01:31:09,233 that 6876 01:31:09,233 --> 01:31:10,167 substantially annoy 6877 01:31:10,167 --> 01:31:10,500 the comfort 6878 01:31:10,500 --> 01:31:12,690 health 6879 01:31:12,690 --> 01:31:12,302 and repose of the 6880 01:31:12,302 --> 01:31:12,703 safety 6881 01:31:12,703 --> 01:31:14,500 republic. So 6882 01:31:14,500 --> 01:31:14,338 to 6883 01:31:14,338 --> 01:31:14,638 substantially 6884 01:31:14,638 --> 01:31:16,206 annoy 6885 01:31:16,206 --> 01:31:16,473 . That 6886 01:31:16,473 --> 01:31:16,707 seems 6887 01:31:16,707 --> 01:31:17,241 different 6888 01:31:17,241 --> 01:31:18,542 than annoying or 6889 01:31:18,542 --> 01:31:19,142 reasonable 6890 01:31:19,142 --> 01:31:19,443 person. Yeah, I, I can't, I 6891 01:31:19,443 --> 01:31:20,845 can't 6892 01:31:20,845 --> 01:31:21,145 enforce those types of 6893 01:31:21,145 --> 01:31:21,378 things 6894 01:31:21,378 --> 01:31:23,378 . So 6895 01:31:23,814 --> 01:31:24,810 . We've taken those 6896 01:31:24,810 --> 01:31:25,850 out 6897 01:31:25,850 --> 01:31:27,518 and more clear 6898 01:31:27,518 --> 01:31:28,485 , concise 6899 01:31:28,485 --> 01:31:29,720 objective language. All right 6900 01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:30,870 . 6901 01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:30,954 Counsel 6902 01:31:30,954 --> 01:31:31,856 , questions? Um 6903 01:31:31,856 --> 01:31:32,256 , I have 6904 01:31:32,256 --> 01:31:32,923 a couple 6905 01:31:32,923 --> 01:31:33,157 of questions 6906 01:31:33,157 --> 01:31:35,157 . Um 6907 01:31:35,159 --> 01:31:35,492 , so 6908 01:31:35,492 --> 01:31:36,427 in 6909 01:31:36,427 --> 01:31:36,995 the 6910 01:31:36,995 --> 01:31:37,261 violation section 6911 01:31:37,261 --> 01:31:39,129 under 6912 01:31:39,129 --> 01:31:39,530 92.14 6913 01:31:39,530 --> 01:31:41,980 . It 6914 01:31:41,980 --> 01:31:41,331 mentions that the 6915 01:31:41,331 --> 01:31:41,799 fee 6916 01:31:41,799 --> 01:31:43,568 ranges from 6917 01:31:43,568 --> 01:31:44,435 $10 to 6918 01:31:44,435 --> 01:31:45,702 $2000 per 6919 01:31:45,702 --> 01:31:45,969 day 6920 01:31:45,969 --> 01:31:46,203 , but 6921 01:31:46,203 --> 01:31:48,203 it 6922 01:31:48,205 --> 01:31:48,539 doesn't 6923 01:31:48,539 --> 01:31:48,806 provide or 6924 01:31:48,806 --> 01:31:50,240 ok 6925 01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:50,708 . Well 6926 01:31:50,708 --> 01:31:52,708 , regardless, it 6927 01:31:53,243 --> 01:31:54,845 doesn't provide um guidelines 6928 01:31:54,845 --> 01:31:55,279 as to 6929 01:31:55,279 --> 01:31:55,613 which 6930 01:31:55,613 --> 01:31:56,780 fee level 6931 01:31:56,780 --> 01:31:57,810 is 6932 01:31:57,810 --> 01:31:57,648 going 6933 01:31:57,648 --> 01:31:58,480 to apply to 6934 01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:00,480 which offense 6935 01:32:01,685 --> 01:32:02,219 . 6936 01:32:02,219 --> 01:32:03,687 Separate offenses 6937 01:32:03,687 --> 01:32:04,154 committed on 6938 01:32:04,154 --> 01:32:04,588 each day that 6939 01:32:04,588 --> 01:32:06,557 the violation 6940 01:32:06,557 --> 01:32:07,258 exists unabated after the 6941 01:32:07,258 --> 01:32:08,920 deadline for abatement 6942 01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:08,792 and 6943 01:32:08,792 --> 01:32:10,792 removal established 6944 01:32:10,828 --> 01:32:11,195 by 6945 01:32:11,195 --> 01:32:11,391 92131c 6946 01:32:11,391 --> 01:32:11,795 . 6947 01:32:11,795 --> 01:32:12,696 Any person 6948 01:32:12,696 --> 01:32:12,846 violating 6949 01:32:12,846 --> 01:32:13,397 this 6950 01:32:13,397 --> 01:32:13,597 provision will be 6951 01:32:13,597 --> 01:32:13,998 fined not 6952 01:32:13,998 --> 01:32:15,799 less than 6953 01:32:15,799 --> 01:32:16,333 $10 no more than 6954 01:32:16,333 --> 01:32:17,101 $2000 per 6955 01:32:17,101 --> 01:32:17,535 fence 6956 01:32:17,535 --> 01:32:18,235 unless 6957 01:32:18,235 --> 01:32:18,702 otherwise limited by 6958 01:32:18,702 --> 01:32:19,837 applicable 6959 01:32:19,837 --> 01:32:20,337 laws that gives 6960 01:32:20,337 --> 01:32:20,571 the court 6961 01:32:20,571 --> 01:32:20,904 a 6962 01:32:20,904 --> 01:32:21,772 range 6963 01:32:21,772 --> 01:32:22,339 This 6964 01:32:22,339 --> 01:32:22,740 , this will be done 6965 01:32:22,740 --> 01:32:23,875 in court. I 6966 01:32:23,875 --> 01:32:24,309 don't 6967 01:32:24,309 --> 01:32:25,109 , uh, we don't 6968 01:32:25,109 --> 01:32:26,243 issue citations I don't 6969 01:32:26,243 --> 01:32:26,945 have 6970 01:32:26,945 --> 01:32:28,546 citation power. Oh, ok 6971 01:32:28,546 --> 01:32:29,280 . This 6972 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:29,613 would go through the 6973 01:32:29,613 --> 01:32:31,415 normal 6974 01:32:31,415 --> 01:32:32,850 notification 6975 01:32:32,850 --> 01:32:33,485 procedures and 6976 01:32:33,485 --> 01:32:34,850 they're either going to work 6977 01:32:34,850 --> 01:32:35,219 with us or they're not 6978 01:32:35,219 --> 01:32:35,786 . They 6979 01:32:35,786 --> 01:32:36,320 don't. We file it 6980 01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:36,654 in municipal 6981 01:32:36,654 --> 01:32:37,688 court 6982 01:32:37,688 --> 01:32:38,560 . I think 6983 01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:38,323 this just 6984 01:32:38,323 --> 01:32:38,789 gives 6985 01:32:38,789 --> 01:32:39,491 the judge 6986 01:32:39,491 --> 01:32:40,240 a 6987 01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:40,224 good range 6988 01:32:40,224 --> 01:32:40,725 to be 6989 01:32:40,725 --> 01:32:40,991 able to deal 6990 01:32:40,991 --> 01:32:42,260 with 6991 01:32:42,260 --> 01:32:42,259 it based 6992 01:32:42,259 --> 01:32:42,760 on 6993 01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:43,495 the 6994 01:32:43,495 --> 01:32:44,462 conditions that exist 6995 01:32:44,462 --> 01:32:45,129 . Why 6996 01:32:45,129 --> 01:32:48,129 is the range so large 6997 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:53,204 I 6998 01:32:53,204 --> 01:32:53,638 , I 6999 01:32:53,638 --> 01:32:54,720 imagine is 7000 01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:55,606 that statutory 7001 01:32:55,606 --> 01:32:56,107 , the 7002 01:32:56,107 --> 01:32:56,607 uh it is 7003 01:32:56,607 --> 01:32:57,508 $2000. $2000 is 7004 01:32:57,508 --> 01:32:57,975 the 7005 01:32:57,975 --> 01:32:58,676 limit the 7006 01:32:58,676 --> 01:32:59,760 statute for this type 7007 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:00,311 of offense 7008 01:33:00,311 --> 01:33:00,545 . Could 7009 01:33:00,545 --> 01:33:00,945 the 7010 01:33:00,945 --> 01:33:01,279 range be 7011 01:33:01,279 --> 01:33:02,847 smaller 7012 01:33:02,847 --> 01:33:04,649 ? It'd be 7013 01:33:04,649 --> 01:33:05,820 $10 to 7014 01:33:05,820 --> 01:33:05,416 $500. 7015 01:33:05,416 --> 01:33:05,783 It could 7016 01:33:05,783 --> 01:33:07,180 be 500 to 7017 01:33:07,180 --> 01:33:07,351 2000 that 7018 01:33:07,351 --> 01:33:09,351 that's 7019 01:33:09,353 --> 01:33:09,620 a policy. You can go 7020 01:33:09,620 --> 01:33:10,388 to 7021 01:33:10,388 --> 01:33:10,655 2000, but you can go lower than 7022 01:33:10,655 --> 01:33:11,489 that 7023 01:33:11,489 --> 01:33:12,230 . That's the 7024 01:33:12,230 --> 01:33:12,390 , that's the, 7025 01:33:12,390 --> 01:33:12,657 the, the 7026 01:33:12,657 --> 01:33:13,891 State 7027 01:33:13,891 --> 01:33:14,292 limits us to no 7028 01:33:14,292 --> 01:33:14,825 more than 7029 01:33:14,825 --> 01:33:15,960 2000, but 7030 01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:16,227 we 7031 01:33:16,227 --> 01:33:16,727 could 7032 01:33:16,727 --> 01:33:17,195 for health and 7033 01:33:17,195 --> 01:33:17,428 safety. We 7034 01:33:17,428 --> 01:33:18,262 can 7035 01:33:18,262 --> 01:33:18,563 help the 7036 01:33:18,563 --> 01:33:19,130 limit 7037 01:33:19,130 --> 01:33:19,363 lower than that. 7038 01:33:19,363 --> 01:33:19,664 I 7039 01:33:19,664 --> 01:33:20,898 mean 7040 01:33:20,898 --> 01:33:21,199 , 10 seems kind 7041 01:33:21,199 --> 01:33:22,330 of low 7042 01:33:22,330 --> 01:33:22,467 for something that has 7043 01:33:22,467 --> 01:33:22,935 gone 7044 01:33:22,935 --> 01:33:23,634 to 7045 01:33:23,634 --> 01:33:25,369 court. Yeah 7046 01:33:25,369 --> 01:33:25,603 . Sorry, I, well 7047 01:33:25,603 --> 01:33:27,238 , I 7048 01:33:27,238 --> 01:33:27,538 didn't read 7049 01:33:27,538 --> 01:33:27,872 this 7050 01:33:27,872 --> 01:33:28,139 as to 7051 01:33:28,139 --> 01:33:29,575 apply 7052 01:33:29,575 --> 01:33:29,941 to 7053 01:33:29,941 --> 01:33:30,174 court 7054 01:33:30,174 --> 01:33:30,841 . So 7055 01:33:30,841 --> 01:33:31,509 , um, I'm not 7056 01:33:31,509 --> 01:33:31,910 sure 7057 01:33:31,910 --> 01:33:32,477 that it's 7058 01:33:32,477 --> 01:33:33,811 for 7059 01:33:33,811 --> 01:33:34,500 the 7060 01:33:34,500 --> 01:33:34,712 regular 7061 01:33:34,712 --> 01:33:35,130 person reading this, that they 7062 01:33:35,130 --> 01:33:36,347 would 7063 01:33:36,347 --> 01:33:36,648 understand that 7064 01:33:36,648 --> 01:33:36,914 to 7065 01:33:36,914 --> 01:33:38,914 be 7066 01:33:38,950 --> 01:33:39,651 related to going to court. I 7067 01:33:39,651 --> 01:33:40,618 don't know if there can 7068 01:33:40,618 --> 01:33:40,818 be 7069 01:33:40,818 --> 01:33:41,352 any 7070 01:33:41,352 --> 01:33:41,687 clarification on 7071 01:33:41,687 --> 01:33:41,853 that or 7072 01:33:41,853 --> 01:33:42,186 or if 7073 01:33:42,186 --> 01:33:42,954 that's 7074 01:33:42,954 --> 01:33:43,287 just 7075 01:33:43,287 --> 01:33:43,621 the 7076 01:33:43,621 --> 01:33:44,256 regular 7077 01:33:44,256 --> 01:33:44,956 language of the notice 7078 01:33:44,956 --> 01:33:45,590 of 7079 01:33:45,590 --> 01:33:45,857 violation that we 7080 01:33:45,857 --> 01:33:46,124 send 7081 01:33:46,124 --> 01:33:46,524 out on 7082 01:33:46,524 --> 01:33:47,992 we've got 7083 01:33:47,992 --> 01:33:48,526 a 7084 01:33:48,526 --> 01:33:48,993 standard stock 7085 01:33:48,993 --> 01:33:49,260 letter that we 7086 01:33:49,260 --> 01:33:50,595 send 7087 01:33:50,595 --> 01:33:51,229 , it'll 7088 01:33:51,229 --> 01:33:52,960 identify as 7089 01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:52,219 a property owner 7090 01:33:52,219 --> 01:33:52,797 . 7091 01:33:52,797 --> 01:33:53,131 It tells you what 7092 01:33:53,131 --> 01:33:53,598 your 7093 01:33:53,598 --> 01:33:53,865 offense 7094 01:33:53,865 --> 01:33:55,660 is 7095 01:33:55,660 --> 01:33:55,333 . It gives you a time limit 7096 01:33:55,333 --> 01:33:56,768 to 7097 01:33:56,768 --> 01:33:58,768 , uh, comply 7098 01:33:59,700 --> 01:33:59,737 . And it also 7099 01:33:59,737 --> 01:34:01,105 gives you your right 7100 01:34:01,105 --> 01:34:02,775 to appeal 7101 01:34:02,775 --> 01:34:03,641 . 7102 01:34:03,641 --> 01:34:04,420 And it also states that if you 7103 01:34:04,420 --> 01:34:05,710 do not come 7104 01:34:05,710 --> 01:34:06,411 into compliance or 7105 01:34:06,411 --> 01:34:06,550 you don't reach out to us 7106 01:34:06,550 --> 01:34:06,845 , then 7107 01:34:06,845 --> 01:34:08,313 then 7108 01:34:08,313 --> 01:34:08,981 the case will be filed in 7109 01:34:08,981 --> 01:34:10,348 municipal court 7110 01:34:10,348 --> 01:34:10,949 , and then the 7111 01:34:10,949 --> 01:34:11,349 second page of 7112 01:34:11,349 --> 01:34:13,349 that notice 7113 01:34:14,119 --> 01:34:14,519 . 7114 01:34:14,519 --> 01:34:15,530 Gives the 7115 01:34:15,530 --> 01:34:15,453 ordinance language of 7116 01:34:15,453 --> 01:34:17,222 the offense 7117 01:34:17,222 --> 01:34:19,157 . The 7118 01:34:19,157 --> 01:34:19,625 appeal 7119 01:34:19,625 --> 01:34:21,426 procedure, and 7120 01:34:21,426 --> 01:34:21,659 then the 7121 01:34:21,659 --> 01:34:22,600 range 7122 01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:23,728 of penalty 7123 01:34:23,728 --> 01:34:25,697 . But 7124 01:34:25,697 --> 01:34:26,564 I understand 7125 01:34:26,564 --> 01:34:28,166 what you're saying. Ok, so upon 7126 01:34:28,166 --> 01:34:28,833 reading this again 7127 01:34:28,833 --> 01:34:29,200 , um, in 7128 01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:30,168 response 7129 01:34:30,168 --> 01:34:30,535 to 7130 01:34:30,535 --> 01:34:31,135 , to your 7131 01:34:31,135 --> 01:34:33,135 , um, your 7132 01:34:33,138 --> 01:34:33,505 point. I believe that, so it 7133 01:34:33,505 --> 01:34:34,973 says a 7134 01:34:34,973 --> 01:34:35,740 separate offense is 7135 01:34:35,740 --> 01:34:37,342 committed on each day 7136 01:34:37,342 --> 01:34:37,508 . So 7137 01:34:37,508 --> 01:34:37,909 each 7138 01:34:37,909 --> 01:34:39,345 day is a 7139 01:34:39,345 --> 01:34:39,611 separate offense. Is 7140 01:34:39,611 --> 01:34:39,978 that 7141 01:34:39,978 --> 01:34:40,245 correct 7142 01:34:40,245 --> 01:34:41,613 ? And 7143 01:34:41,613 --> 01:34:42,470 so then, and 7144 01:34:42,470 --> 01:34:42,380 then you can't 7145 01:34:42,380 --> 01:34:43,481 be fined 7146 01:34:43,481 --> 01:34:43,915 not 7147 01:34:43,915 --> 01:34:44,249 less than 7148 01:34:44,249 --> 01:34:44,549 $10 no 7149 01:34:44,549 --> 01:34:44,817 more 7150 01:34:44,817 --> 01:34:46,817 than 7151 01:34:47,180 --> 01:34:47,319 $2000 per offense. So 7152 01:34:47,319 --> 01:34:48,920 that 7153 01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:50,756 could be daily 7154 01:34:50,756 --> 01:34:51,220 . So 7155 01:34:51,220 --> 01:34:51,389 it 7156 01:34:51,389 --> 01:34:52,925 could be 7157 01:34:52,925 --> 01:34:53,925 up to 7158 01:34:53,925 --> 01:34:55,160 $2000 per 7159 01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:55,760 day 7160 01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:55,876 . So I 7161 01:34:55,876 --> 01:34:56,161 , so 7162 01:34:56,161 --> 01:34:57,729 that 7163 01:34:57,729 --> 01:34:58,130 was just my concern 7164 01:34:58,130 --> 01:34:59,931 because I 7165 01:34:59,931 --> 01:35:00,198 didn't know about 7166 01:35:00,198 --> 01:35:01,800 that 7167 01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:02,701 , so 7168 01:35:02,701 --> 01:35:02,968 the discretion based 7169 01:35:02,968 --> 01:35:03,235 on 7170 01:35:03,235 --> 01:35:04,403 , um 7171 01:35:04,403 --> 01:35:05,237 , Mhm 7172 01:35:05,237 --> 01:35:06,471 . But, ok, so 7173 01:35:06,471 --> 01:35:06,805 , but 7174 01:35:06,805 --> 01:35:07,272 what the 7175 01:35:07,272 --> 01:35:07,772 prosecutor puts 7176 01:35:07,772 --> 01:35:08,740 forward and the 7177 01:35:08,740 --> 01:35:09,700 judge 7178 01:35:09,700 --> 01:35:09,307 has 7179 01:35:09,307 --> 01:35:09,775 the 7180 01:35:09,775 --> 01:35:11,177 ability to 7181 01:35:11,177 --> 01:35:13,177 and 7182 01:35:13,178 --> 01:35:13,512 this is, right? 7183 01:35:13,512 --> 01:35:14,246 It's all 7184 01:35:14,246 --> 01:35:15,213 in this is our court 7185 01:35:15,213 --> 01:35:15,715 , 7186 01:35:15,715 --> 01:35:16,480 the judge that 7187 01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:16,415 we oversee. 7188 01:35:16,415 --> 01:35:18,500 Correct 7189 01:35:18,500 --> 01:35:18,317 . Ok 7190 01:35:18,317 --> 01:35:18,750 , and 7191 01:35:18,750 --> 01:35:20,385 then another 7192 01:35:20,385 --> 01:35:20,819 question I had is there a 7193 01:35:20,819 --> 01:35:21,152 process for 7194 01:35:21,152 --> 01:35:22,287 a hearing 7195 01:35:22,287 --> 01:35:22,521 or appeal 7196 01:35:22,521 --> 01:35:23,560 of 7197 01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:23,455 the violation or of 7198 01:35:23,455 --> 01:35:25,900 the fees 7199 01:35:25,900 --> 01:35:25,391 charged because I 7200 01:35:25,391 --> 01:35:25,557 didn't 7201 01:35:25,557 --> 01:35:25,858 notice 7202 01:35:25,858 --> 01:35:26,825 that 7203 01:35:26,825 --> 01:35:27,192 in 7204 01:35:27,192 --> 01:35:27,692 this 7205 01:35:27,692 --> 01:35:29,692 um document 7206 01:35:31,830 --> 01:35:32,598 . The 7207 01:35:32,598 --> 01:35:34,990 appeal is 7208 01:35:34,990 --> 01:35:34,432 is 7209 01:35:34,432 --> 01:35:34,767 through 7210 01:35:34,767 --> 01:35:36,335 municipal 7211 01:35:36,335 --> 01:35:36,602 court municipal 7212 01:35:36,602 --> 01:35:36,835 court 7213 01:35:36,835 --> 01:35:37,202 . Mhm. Ok, 7214 01:35:37,202 --> 01:35:38,360 because 7215 01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:38,337 the 7216 01:35:38,337 --> 01:35:38,603 other 7217 01:35:38,603 --> 01:35:38,904 ones 7218 01:35:38,904 --> 01:35:39,371 were 7219 01:35:39,371 --> 01:35:40,405 specifically 7220 01:35:40,405 --> 01:35:40,739 defined 7221 01:35:40,739 --> 01:35:41,540 . This is 7222 01:35:41,540 --> 01:35:42,708 your right. This is how 7223 01:35:42,708 --> 01:35:43,375 you 7224 01:35:43,375 --> 01:35:43,742 appeal. This 7225 01:35:43,742 --> 01:35:45,277 one doesn't 7226 01:35:45,277 --> 01:35:45,511 So for 7227 01:35:45,511 --> 01:35:46,110 a 7228 01:35:46,110 --> 01:35:47,245 regular person 7229 01:35:47,245 --> 01:35:47,813 who's not, you 7230 01:35:47,813 --> 01:35:48,147 know, well versed 7231 01:35:48,147 --> 01:35:49,281 in this 7232 01:35:49,281 --> 01:35:49,815 , they 7233 01:35:49,815 --> 01:35:50,216 would see 7234 01:35:50,216 --> 01:35:51,684 that there 7235 01:35:51,684 --> 01:35:51,985 is 7236 01:35:51,985 --> 01:35:52,618 no 7237 01:35:52,618 --> 01:35:52,985 listing of 7238 01:35:52,985 --> 01:35:54,153 how you 7239 01:35:54,153 --> 01:35:54,453 can appeal. 7240 01:35:54,453 --> 01:35:54,987 Yeah 7241 01:35:54,987 --> 01:35:55,955 , I disagree. Once 7242 01:35:55,955 --> 01:35:56,622 there's 7243 01:35:56,622 --> 01:35:56,889 notice given on this 7244 01:35:56,889 --> 01:35:57,356 , they 7245 01:35:57,356 --> 01:35:58,825 would 7246 01:35:58,825 --> 01:35:59,250 specifically tell them 7247 01:35:59,250 --> 01:35:59,291 as 7248 01:35:59,291 --> 01:35:59,692 they 7249 01:35:59,692 --> 01:36:00,793 , as mentioned 7250 01:36:00,793 --> 01:36:01,393 , uh, what 7251 01:36:01,393 --> 01:36:01,627 the process is and 7252 01:36:01,627 --> 01:36:02,270 what their 7253 01:36:02,270 --> 01:36:03,950 rights are 7254 01:36:03,950 --> 01:36:03,595 . Ok 7255 01:36:03,595 --> 01:36:04,630 , so I'm just 7256 01:36:04,630 --> 01:36:05,265 looking for 7257 01:36:05,265 --> 01:36:05,565 , so why do we have 7258 01:36:05,565 --> 01:36:05,798 it 7259 01:36:05,798 --> 01:36:07,633 in 7260 01:36:07,633 --> 01:36:08,268 one section about a 7261 01:36:08,268 --> 01:36:09,501 hearing and appeal 7262 01:36:09,501 --> 01:36:09,736 and then not 7263 01:36:09,736 --> 01:36:10,703 in 7264 01:36:10,703 --> 01:36:11,905 in another 7265 01:36:11,905 --> 01:36:12,638 . Those are, I 7266 01:36:12,638 --> 01:36:14,139 believe, are, are the 7267 01:36:14,139 --> 01:36:14,841 others 7268 01:36:14,841 --> 01:36:15,307 administrative fines or are 7269 01:36:15,307 --> 01:36:16,242 those 7270 01:36:16,242 --> 01:36:16,576 also 7271 01:36:16,576 --> 01:36:16,942 court 7272 01:36:16,942 --> 01:36:17,377 administered 7273 01:36:17,377 --> 01:36:17,643 fines in the 7274 01:36:17,643 --> 01:36:18,877 other 7275 01:36:18,877 --> 01:36:19,411 section 7276 01:36:19,411 --> 01:36:19,812 administered fines 7277 01:36:19,812 --> 01:36:21,213 as well 7278 01:36:21,213 --> 01:36:23,213 . Ok 7279 01:36:23,382 --> 01:36:24,830 Uh, I mean 7280 01:36:24,830 --> 01:36:25,170 , it's Yeah, I 7281 01:36:25,170 --> 01:36:25,651 , I 7282 01:36:25,651 --> 01:36:25,918 don't know why 7283 01:36:25,918 --> 01:36:26,560 they 7284 01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:26,485 one 7285 01:36:26,485 --> 01:36:27,820 ordinance has 7286 01:36:27,820 --> 01:36:28,220 it and the others 7287 01:36:28,220 --> 01:36:29,856 don't. It's 7288 01:36:29,856 --> 01:36:30,556 I think 7289 01:36:30,556 --> 01:36:31,891 I 7290 01:36:31,891 --> 01:36:32,791 think 7291 01:36:32,791 --> 01:36:34,527 he's right in the sense that 7292 01:36:34,527 --> 01:36:35,195 that it's gonna be spelled out 7293 01:36:35,195 --> 01:36:35,461 in the letter, and I think, you 7294 01:36:35,461 --> 01:36:37,229 know 7295 01:36:37,229 --> 01:36:37,763 , pretrial hearings, you, 7296 01:36:37,763 --> 01:36:38,964 you get your you 7297 01:36:38,964 --> 01:36:39,465 get notice of 7298 01:36:39,465 --> 01:36:39,866 how, you know 7299 01:36:39,866 --> 01:36:40,132 , the process and 7300 01:36:40,132 --> 01:36:40,867 you 7301 01:36:40,867 --> 01:36:41,734 can 7302 01:36:41,734 --> 01:36:42,368 appeal these to county 7303 01:36:42,368 --> 01:36:43,435 court of law. You, you 7304 01:36:43,435 --> 01:36:43,836 , you 7305 01:36:43,836 --> 01:36:44,436 literally 7306 01:36:44,436 --> 01:36:44,904 , you literally would 7307 01:36:44,904 --> 01:36:46,380 be put on, you 7308 01:36:46,380 --> 01:36:46,438 , you literally 7309 01:36:46,438 --> 01:36:46,806 will have 7310 01:36:46,806 --> 01:36:48,475 . The steps 7311 01:36:48,475 --> 01:36:48,975 for Pe 7312 01:36:48,975 --> 01:36:49,975 given to you 7313 01:36:49,975 --> 01:36:50,309 over 7314 01:36:50,309 --> 01:36:51,277 there. So 7315 01:36:51,277 --> 01:36:52,311 information 7316 01:36:52,311 --> 01:36:52,578 given 7317 01:36:52,578 --> 01:36:52,845 to 7318 01:36:52,845 --> 01:36:54,246 a 7319 01:36:54,246 --> 01:36:54,747 one 7320 01:36:54,747 --> 01:36:55,470 individual through 7321 01:36:55,470 --> 01:36:55,515 this process 7322 01:36:55,515 --> 01:36:57,515 but it 7323 01:36:57,550 --> 01:36:57,717 doesn't 7324 01:36:57,717 --> 01:36:58,317 allow 7325 01:36:58,317 --> 01:36:59,118 understanding for the 7326 01:36:59,118 --> 01:36:59,518 general 7327 01:36:59,518 --> 01:36:59,919 public 7328 01:36:59,919 --> 01:37:01,320 about whether 7329 01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:01,687 the 7330 01:37:01,687 --> 01:37:02,422 appeal 7331 01:37:02,422 --> 01:37:02,855 or options are. So 7332 01:37:02,855 --> 01:37:03,389 I do, I 7333 01:37:03,389 --> 01:37:03,889 do 7334 01:37:03,889 --> 01:37:04,657 think we we 7335 01:37:04,657 --> 01:37:06,492 should probably add 7336 01:37:06,492 --> 01:37:06,960 that language to the 7337 01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:07,293 uh to 7338 01:37:07,293 --> 01:37:08,160 the 7339 01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:08,494 ordinance and, and we 7340 01:37:08,494 --> 01:37:09,128 could 7341 01:37:09,128 --> 01:37:09,495 consider that with an 7342 01:37:09,495 --> 01:37:09,862 amendment 7343 01:37:09,862 --> 01:37:10,663 I think 7344 01:37:10,663 --> 01:37:10,896 we also, as 7345 01:37:10,896 --> 01:37:11,430 we go 7346 01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:11,865 through this, we 7347 01:37:11,865 --> 01:37:12,198 need to 7348 01:37:12,198 --> 01:37:12,999 consider 7349 01:37:12,999 --> 01:37:13,132 our audience. I 7350 01:37:13,132 --> 01:37:13,465 don't 7351 01:37:13,465 --> 01:37:13,733 think 7352 01:37:13,733 --> 01:37:14,267 our 7353 01:37:14,267 --> 01:37:14,868 typical 7354 01:37:14,868 --> 01:37:15,670 audience is 7355 01:37:15,670 --> 01:37:15,501 , 7356 01:37:15,501 --> 01:37:15,768 is someone who 7357 01:37:15,768 --> 01:37:16,335 can't go to 7358 01:37:16,335 --> 01:37:16,836 sleep, so they're 7359 01:37:16,836 --> 01:37:17,170 reading 7360 01:37:17,170 --> 01:37:17,937 our 7361 01:37:17,937 --> 01:37:18,237 ordinances in the middle of the 7362 01:37:18,237 --> 01:37:18,704 night 7363 01:37:18,704 --> 01:37:19,105 . But 7364 01:37:19,105 --> 01:37:19,605 it's someone 7365 01:37:19,605 --> 01:37:20,339 who has 7366 01:37:20,339 --> 01:37:21,440 received a letter, received 7367 01:37:21,440 --> 01:37:21,908 a 7368 01:37:21,908 --> 01:37:22,174 citation, and 7369 01:37:22,174 --> 01:37:22,575 is 7370 01:37:22,575 --> 01:37:22,842 seeking, you 7371 01:37:22,842 --> 01:37:24,143 know 7372 01:37:24,143 --> 01:37:24,844 , understanding of how to 7373 01:37:24,844 --> 01:37:25,245 proceed. That MAY be spelled 7374 01:37:25,245 --> 01:37:26,212 out in the 7375 01:37:26,212 --> 01:37:27,130 letter, but it 7376 01:37:27,130 --> 01:37:28,447 should also be spelled out in 7377 01:37:28,447 --> 01:37:28,982 the ordinance 7378 01:37:28,982 --> 01:37:30,850 , right? I 7379 01:37:30,850 --> 01:37:31,317 I 7380 01:37:31,317 --> 01:37:33,520 understand 7381 01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:33,386 . Um, part of 7382 01:37:33,386 --> 01:37:33,887 the 7383 01:37:33,887 --> 01:37:35,321 notification 7384 01:37:35,321 --> 01:37:36,220 process to 7385 01:37:36,220 --> 01:37:37,690 , uh, in 7386 01:37:37,690 --> 01:37:37,958 certain circumstances, you get 7387 01:37:37,958 --> 01:37:38,291 an 7388 01:37:38,291 --> 01:37:39,425 advisory 7389 01:37:39,425 --> 01:37:39,825 card 7390 01:37:39,825 --> 01:37:40,326 first, which 7391 01:37:40,326 --> 01:37:40,593 doesn't even put 7392 01:37:40,593 --> 01:37:41,761 you 7393 01:37:41,761 --> 01:37:42,610 , you 7394 01:37:42,610 --> 01:37:42,228 know 7395 01:37:42,228 --> 01:37:42,562 , 7396 01:37:42,562 --> 01:37:43,630 it's not 7397 01:37:43,630 --> 01:37:44,530 a violation yet 7398 01:37:44,530 --> 01:37:45,980 . It is 7399 01:37:45,980 --> 01:37:46,399 but it's, it's 7400 01:37:46,399 --> 01:37:46,666 , it's 7401 01:37:46,666 --> 01:37:46,866 your 7402 01:37:46,866 --> 01:37:47,333 first 7403 01:37:47,333 --> 01:37:47,801 warning. It's 7404 01:37:47,801 --> 01:37:48,301 , it's very much 7405 01:37:48,301 --> 01:37:48,668 a 7406 01:37:48,668 --> 01:37:49,336 warning 7407 01:37:49,336 --> 01:37:50,971 . And 7408 01:37:50,971 --> 01:37:51,404 then next one that 7409 01:37:51,404 --> 01:37:51,871 comes will 7410 01:37:51,871 --> 01:37:53,272 be 7411 01:37:53,272 --> 01:37:54,730 the official 7412 01:37:54,730 --> 01:37:54,674 notice of violation that comes 7413 01:37:54,674 --> 01:37:55,274 via certified mail 7414 01:37:55,274 --> 01:37:55,942 . I have a 7415 01:37:55,942 --> 01:37:56,409 feeling there's gonna be a lot 7416 01:37:56,409 --> 01:37:57,477 of handholding 7417 01:37:57,477 --> 01:37:57,611 through 7418 01:37:57,611 --> 01:37:58,144 these 7419 01:37:58,144 --> 01:37:58,478 processes. There 7420 01:37:58,478 --> 01:37:59,120 are, and 7421 01:37:59,120 --> 01:37:59,879 that's the only 7422 01:37:59,879 --> 01:38:00,380 way you 7423 01:38:00,380 --> 01:38:01,130 gain 7424 01:38:01,130 --> 01:38:01,447 compliance and that's our job. 7425 01:38:01,447 --> 01:38:02,216 Compliance is 7426 01:38:02,216 --> 01:38:02,415 the goal 7427 01:38:02,415 --> 01:38:02,982 because 7428 01:38:02,982 --> 01:38:03,317 it's like we've dealt 7429 01:38:03,317 --> 01:38:04,383 with our 7430 01:38:04,383 --> 01:38:04,717 with our 7431 01:38:04,717 --> 01:38:05,151 police 7432 01:38:05,151 --> 01:38:05,818 law enforcement 7433 01:38:05,818 --> 01:38:06,986 here 7434 01:38:06,986 --> 01:38:07,620 , um, we specifically, 7435 01:38:07,620 --> 01:38:08,922 that's what we want. We 7436 01:38:08,922 --> 01:38:09,522 want 7437 01:38:09,522 --> 01:38:09,956 compliance as opposed to. So 7438 01:38:09,956 --> 01:38:11,557 Mayor, are 7439 01:38:11,557 --> 01:38:11,991 you asking Robert, 7440 01:38:11,991 --> 01:38:12,292 to go back 7441 01:38:12,292 --> 01:38:13,493 and add 7442 01:38:13,493 --> 01:38:14,293 the language 7443 01:38:14,293 --> 01:38:14,661 to it and bring it back another 7444 01:38:14,661 --> 01:38:15,762 day. Well 7445 01:38:15,762 --> 01:38:16,496 , I've 7446 01:38:16,496 --> 01:38:16,930 heard that 7447 01:38:16,930 --> 01:38:17,297 the 7448 01:38:17,297 --> 01:38:17,898 language 7449 01:38:17,898 --> 01:38:18,131 , you know 7450 01:38:18,131 --> 01:38:18,598 , is 7451 01:38:18,598 --> 01:38:18,965 in the 7452 01:38:18,965 --> 01:38:19,432 other 7453 01:38:19,432 --> 01:38:20,660 ordinances that 7454 01:38:20,660 --> 01:38:20,733 we're 7455 01:38:20,733 --> 01:38:21,000 working on tonight. I 7456 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:21,501 think 7457 01:38:21,501 --> 01:38:22,368 it's 7458 01:38:22,368 --> 01:38:22,669 appropriate 7459 01:38:22,669 --> 01:38:23,503 that 7460 01:38:23,503 --> 01:38:24,300 uh where 7461 01:38:24,300 --> 01:38:24,637 someone to move 7462 01:38:24,637 --> 01:38:25,138 to 7463 01:38:25,138 --> 01:38:25,839 approve 7464 01:38:25,839 --> 01:38:26,139 this 7465 01:38:26,139 --> 01:38:27,106 with 7466 01:38:27,106 --> 01:38:27,640 the 7467 01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:28,441 amendment 7468 01:38:28,441 --> 01:38:28,941 that 7469 01:38:28,941 --> 01:38:29,843 include 7470 01:38:29,843 --> 01:38:30,477 the um 7471 01:38:30,477 --> 01:38:31,778 same 7472 01:38:31,778 --> 01:38:32,645 language, MR. Mayor 7473 01:38:32,645 --> 01:38:33,546 would you, I wouldn't 7474 01:38:33,546 --> 01:38:34,113 accept 7475 01:38:34,113 --> 01:38:34,347 because this is a 7476 01:38:34,347 --> 01:38:34,714 public 7477 01:38:34,714 --> 01:38:36,549 hearing 7478 01:38:36,549 --> 01:38:36,733 but I, I would be 7479 01:38:36,733 --> 01:38:36,950 happy 7480 01:38:36,950 --> 01:38:38,519 to 7481 01:38:38,519 --> 01:38:38,785 consider that in a little 7482 01:38:38,785 --> 01:38:40,186 bit 7483 01:38:40,186 --> 01:38:40,653 . Uh 7484 01:38:40,653 --> 01:38:41,155 , Robert, what else do 7485 01:38:41,155 --> 01:38:42,922 you have for us 7486 01:38:42,922 --> 01:38:43,250 Uh, that's it 7487 01:38:43,250 --> 01:38:44,991 on 7488 01:38:44,991 --> 01:38:45,559 , on public do we have any 7489 01:38:45,559 --> 01:38:46,192 other questions? Unless you 7490 01:38:46,192 --> 01:38:47,861 have any other questions 7491 01:38:47,861 --> 01:38:49,861 . This 7492 01:38:49,963 --> 01:38:50,196 is a, oh, no 7493 01:38:50,196 --> 01:38:50,664 , I 7494 01:38:50,664 --> 01:38:51,898 just wanted to 7495 01:38:51,898 --> 01:38:52,299 , 7496 01:38:52,299 --> 01:38:54,134 uh, again 7497 01:38:54,134 --> 01:38:54,768 , um, I appreciate the 7498 01:38:54,768 --> 01:38:55,969 thoroughness that 7499 01:38:55,969 --> 01:38:56,637 you've 7500 01:38:56,637 --> 01:38:58,371 demonstrated here. I 7501 01:38:58,371 --> 01:38:58,486 , um, also 7502 01:38:58,486 --> 01:38:59,139 , 7503 01:38:59,139 --> 01:38:59,406 I'm glad to see that there's a, 7504 01:38:59,406 --> 01:38:59,739 a 7505 01:38:59,739 --> 01:39:00,807 separate 7506 01:39:00,807 --> 01:39:01,107 section for 7507 01:39:01,107 --> 01:39:01,774 high 7508 01:39:01,774 --> 01:39:03,900 weeds because I 7509 01:39:03,900 --> 01:39:03,176 , I also 7510 01:39:03,176 --> 01:39:03,777 have 7511 01:39:03,777 --> 01:39:04,477 been involved in the 7512 01:39:04,477 --> 01:39:05,178 neighborhood hoa and 7513 01:39:05,178 --> 01:39:05,446 that is 7514 01:39:05,446 --> 01:39:06,460 a 7515 01:39:06,460 --> 01:39:06,980 conti 7516 01:39:06,980 --> 01:39:07,480 continuous problem 7517 01:39:07,480 --> 01:39:07,847 . So 7518 01:39:07,847 --> 01:39:08,716 I 7519 01:39:08,716 --> 01:39:09,820 appreciate that you're 7520 01:39:09,820 --> 01:39:09,516 addressing 7521 01:39:09,516 --> 01:39:10,483 it 7522 01:39:10,483 --> 01:39:10,850 with 7523 01:39:10,850 --> 01:39:11,217 clear 7524 01:39:11,217 --> 01:39:11,519 guidelines 7525 01:39:11,519 --> 01:39:11,985 that a 7526 01:39:11,985 --> 01:39:12,352 normal 7527 01:39:12,352 --> 01:39:12,652 person 7528 01:39:12,652 --> 01:39:13,420 can 7529 01:39:13,420 --> 01:39:14,870 understand that's, you know 7530 01:39:14,870 --> 01:39:14,688 objective 7531 01:39:14,688 --> 01:39:14,988 . So thank you 7532 01:39:14,988 --> 01:39:16,690 for 7533 01:39:16,690 --> 01:39:17,357 that. I don't know 7534 01:39:17,357 --> 01:39:17,891 . This is a 7535 01:39:17,891 --> 01:39:18,859 public hearing. I 7536 01:39:18,859 --> 01:39:19,292 would ask if 7537 01:39:19,292 --> 01:39:19,727 there is 7538 01:39:19,727 --> 01:39:20,961 anyone from 7539 01:39:20,961 --> 01:39:21,795 the public 7540 01:39:21,795 --> 01:39:23,597 wishing to speak on this item 7541 01:39:23,597 --> 01:39:24,331 . 7542 01:39:24,331 --> 01:39:25,432 Looks like I've got, uh, I 7543 01:39:25,432 --> 01:39:26,320 got 7544 01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:26,567 one if you come forward and 7545 01:39:26,567 --> 01:39:27,701 state your name 7546 01:39:27,701 --> 01:39:28,100 . Uh 7547 01:39:28,100 --> 01:39:28,535 , this is 7548 01:39:28,535 --> 01:39:30,203 Scott Staperman 7549 01:39:30,203 --> 01:39:30,871 . Um, I guess 7550 01:39:30,871 --> 01:39:31,271 one simple part about this is 7551 01:39:31,271 --> 01:39:32,205 it doesn't 7552 01:39:32,205 --> 01:39:32,706 same 7553 01:39:32,706 --> 01:39:33,390 thing about the 7554 01:39:33,390 --> 01:39:34,474 hoa 7555 01:39:34,474 --> 01:39:34,808 . If 7556 01:39:34,808 --> 01:39:35,242 their 7557 01:39:35,242 --> 01:39:35,876 findings are that 7558 01:39:35,876 --> 01:39:36,643 they have somebody 7559 01:39:36,643 --> 01:39:36,977 that 7560 01:39:36,977 --> 01:39:37,645 they 7561 01:39:37,645 --> 01:39:37,911 reported to y'all 7562 01:39:37,911 --> 01:39:38,946 take 7563 01:39:38,946 --> 01:39:39,846 into 7564 01:39:39,846 --> 01:39:41,248 account 7565 01:39:41,248 --> 01:39:41,882 their timelines and 7566 01:39:41,882 --> 01:39:42,182 their deliver of 7567 01:39:42,182 --> 01:39:42,449 notice 7568 01:39:42,449 --> 01:39:43,750 or 7569 01:39:43,750 --> 01:39:44,285 delivery 7570 01:39:44,285 --> 01:39:45,860 of it's going to be 7571 01:39:45,860 --> 01:39:46,200 expensive. Can you, can you 7572 01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:46,420 get 7573 01:39:46,420 --> 01:39:47,255 closer to 7574 01:39:47,255 --> 01:39:47,688 the microphone? Did 7575 01:39:47,688 --> 01:39:48,422 y'all hear 7576 01:39:48,422 --> 01:39:48,655 that question 7577 01:39:48,655 --> 01:39:48,956 ? No 7578 01:39:48,956 --> 01:39:49,756 , I 7579 01:39:49,756 --> 01:39:50,257 I don't think we heard it on 7580 01:39:50,257 --> 01:39:50,624 the microphone 7581 01:39:50,624 --> 01:39:51,580 . That's 7582 01:39:51,580 --> 01:39:51,358 fine 7583 01:39:51,358 --> 01:39:51,692 . I 7584 01:39:51,692 --> 01:39:52,159 guess 7585 01:39:52,159 --> 01:39:52,426 the question 7586 01:39:52,426 --> 01:39:52,926 was 7587 01:39:52,926 --> 01:39:53,560 if 7588 01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:53,927 there's 7589 01:39:53,927 --> 01:39:54,494 nothing 7590 01:39:54,494 --> 01:39:55,128 specifically 7591 01:39:55,128 --> 01:39:55,396 mentioned here 7592 01:39:55,396 --> 01:39:55,829 about 7593 01:39:55,829 --> 01:39:56,229 the 7594 01:39:56,229 --> 01:39:56,496 hoa. 7595 01:39:56,496 --> 01:39:56,797 If 7596 01:39:56,797 --> 01:39:57,664 the 7597 01:39:57,664 --> 01:39:58,980 hoa has proceeded 7598 01:39:58,980 --> 01:39:58,532 with 7599 01:39:58,532 --> 01:40:00,532 their own 7600 01:40:01,668 --> 01:40:01,835 um notifications 7601 01:40:01,835 --> 01:40:02,270 or 7602 01:40:02,270 --> 01:40:02,703 deliverables 7603 01:40:02,703 --> 01:40:03,837 . Does this 7604 01:40:03,837 --> 01:40:04,171 take 7605 01:40:04,171 --> 01:40:04,704 into 7606 01:40:04,704 --> 01:40:04,972 account 7607 01:40:04,972 --> 01:40:06,240 their 7608 01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:06,364 timelines 7609 01:40:06,364 --> 01:40:06,940 or 7610 01:40:06,940 --> 01:40:08,175 you're asking for if 7611 01:40:08,175 --> 01:40:08,576 the 7612 01:40:08,576 --> 01:40:09,476 hoa's 7613 01:40:09,476 --> 01:40:10,978 notice, so this would be a 7614 01:40:10,978 --> 01:40:11,345 judicial process 7615 01:40:11,345 --> 01:40:11,456 . Ok, so 7616 01:40:11,456 --> 01:40:11,778 I 7617 01:40:11,778 --> 01:40:12,112 don't 7618 01:40:12,112 --> 01:40:13,113 think we 7619 01:40:13,113 --> 01:40:13,815 could rely on 7620 01:40:13,815 --> 01:40:14,115 the hoa to kick off 7621 01:40:14,115 --> 01:40:15,215 that 7622 01:40:15,215 --> 01:40:15,483 timeline 7623 01:40:15,483 --> 01:40:15,983 . It 7624 01:40:15,983 --> 01:40:16,316 would be 7625 01:40:16,316 --> 01:40:16,985 , I would 7626 01:40:16,985 --> 01:40:17,551 ask that if there 7627 01:40:17,551 --> 01:40:17,951 is 7628 01:40:17,951 --> 01:40:18,252 a concern 7629 01:40:18,252 --> 01:40:18,819 that 7630 01:40:18,819 --> 01:40:19,286 the 7631 01:40:19,286 --> 01:40:19,887 hoa 7632 01:40:19,887 --> 01:40:20,687 raised the 7633 01:40:20,687 --> 01:40:21,121 complaint as well, so 7634 01:40:21,121 --> 01:40:22,220 that 7635 01:40:22,220 --> 01:40:22,656 the 7636 01:40:22,656 --> 01:40:23,900 judicial 7637 01:40:23,900 --> 01:40:23,857 process could 7638 01:40:23,857 --> 01:40:24,559 be 7639 01:40:24,559 --> 01:40:24,926 undertaken 7640 01:40:24,926 --> 01:40:25,492 . Robert 7641 01:40:25,492 --> 01:40:25,993 , would you 7642 01:40:25,993 --> 01:40:26,593 like to 7643 01:40:26,593 --> 01:40:27,327 add anything 7644 01:40:27,327 --> 01:40:27,594 ? It's just 7645 01:40:27,594 --> 01:40:29,594 a 7646 01:40:31,132 --> 01:40:31,833 municipalities and ways are 7647 01:40:31,833 --> 01:40:33,100 two different. We, we 7648 01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:33,834 don't 7649 01:40:33,834 --> 01:40:35,303 enforce 7650 01:40:35,303 --> 01:40:35,970 hoa and they're, 7651 01:40:35,970 --> 01:40:36,503 they're just completely. Now 7652 01:40:36,503 --> 01:40:37,905 what you can do 7653 01:40:37,905 --> 01:40:38,138 is you can have 7654 01:40:38,138 --> 01:40:38,639 a 7655 01:40:38,639 --> 01:40:39,730 court and you have a judge 7656 01:40:39,730 --> 01:40:40,700 and ask the 7657 01:40:40,700 --> 01:40:40,274 judge to 7658 01:40:40,274 --> 01:40:40,975 take 7659 01:40:40,975 --> 01:40:41,342 judicial notice 7660 01:40:41,342 --> 01:40:42,476 and hhoa 7661 01:40:42,476 --> 01:40:43,770 has 7662 01:40:43,770 --> 01:40:43,511 adjudicated the same 7663 01:40:43,511 --> 01:40:44,645 . You know 7664 01:40:44,645 --> 01:40:45,379 , 7665 01:40:45,379 --> 01:40:46,915 action, so I mean, I think 7666 01:40:46,915 --> 01:40:47,681 it's 7667 01:40:47,681 --> 01:40:48,849 redundancy, but those are 7668 01:40:48,849 --> 01:40:49,450 two 7669 01:40:49,450 --> 01:40:50,117 different processes and 7670 01:40:50,117 --> 01:40:50,417 procedures over there as well, 7671 01:40:50,417 --> 01:40:51,418 but 7672 01:40:51,418 --> 01:40:51,652 I mean 7673 01:40:51,652 --> 01:40:51,986 , so 7674 01:40:51,986 --> 01:40:52,152 this 7675 01:40:52,152 --> 01:40:52,853 would 7676 01:40:52,853 --> 01:40:53,587 effectively start at like 7677 01:40:53,587 --> 01:40:53,921 ground 7678 01:40:53,921 --> 01:40:54,588 zero day 7679 01:40:54,588 --> 01:40:56,230 1 day this 7680 01:40:56,230 --> 01:40:56,657 one 7681 01:40:56,657 --> 01:40:57,391 for the judicial 7682 01:40:57,391 --> 01:40:57,958 process, yes 7683 01:40:57,958 --> 01:40:58,592 . 7684 01:40:58,592 --> 01:40:58,993 So if the hoa has 7685 01:40:58,993 --> 01:40:59,104 been going 7686 01:40:59,104 --> 01:40:59,393 on 7687 01:40:59,393 --> 01:40:59,593 for 7688 01:40:59,593 --> 01:41:00,761 9 7689 01:41:00,761 --> 01:41:01,162 months 7690 01:41:01,162 --> 01:41:01,595 and 7691 01:41:01,595 --> 01:41:01,863 you're 7692 01:41:01,863 --> 01:41:02,529 finally 7693 01:41:02,529 --> 01:41:03,497 getting to the city 7694 01:41:03,497 --> 01:41:03,898 . Please 7695 01:41:03,898 --> 01:41:04,932 come to the 7696 01:41:04,932 --> 01:41:05,232 city 7697 01:41:05,232 --> 01:41:05,500 sooner 7698 01:41:05,500 --> 01:41:05,611 . So I 7699 01:41:05,611 --> 01:41:05,966 , 7700 01:41:05,966 --> 01:41:07,234 I advise 7701 01:41:07,234 --> 01:41:07,501 that 7702 01:41:07,501 --> 01:41:07,935 a lot 7703 01:41:07,935 --> 01:41:08,602 because 7704 01:41:08,602 --> 01:41:09,370 people sometimes take the 7705 01:41:09,370 --> 01:41:09,704 city 7706 01:41:09,704 --> 01:41:11,704 more 7707 01:41:12,106 --> 01:41:12,773 seriously. Well, when you 7708 01:41:12,773 --> 01:41:13,674 have, I was about to say 7709 01:41:13,674 --> 01:41:13,975 when 7710 01:41:13,975 --> 01:41:14,442 you 7711 01:41:14,442 --> 01:41:15,900 have 7712 01:41:15,900 --> 01:41:16,100 judicial authority 7713 01:41:16,100 --> 01:41:16,310 , um 7714 01:41:16,310 --> 01:41:16,845 yes 7715 01:41:16,845 --> 01:41:17,678 , yes 7716 01:41:17,678 --> 01:41:18,813 , remember 7717 01:41:18,813 --> 01:41:19,413 h Hways can 7718 01:41:19,413 --> 01:41:19,981 take you home. Is 7719 01:41:19,981 --> 01:41:20,548 there anyone 7720 01:41:20,548 --> 01:41:20,848 else from public 7721 01:41:20,848 --> 01:41:21,682 wishing to 7722 01:41:21,682 --> 01:41:21,916 make a comment on this item 7723 01:41:21,916 --> 01:41:22,216 ? 7724 01:41:22,216 --> 01:41:22,984 They 7725 01:41:22,984 --> 01:41:23,552 don't 7726 01:41:23,552 --> 01:41:25,219 want to 7727 01:41:25,219 --> 01:41:25,486 . I 7728 01:41:25,486 --> 01:41:25,820 see 7729 01:41:25,820 --> 01:41:26,280 none 7730 01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:26,387 . 7731 01:41:26,387 --> 01:41:27,456 Where blue 7732 01:41:27,456 --> 01:41:27,822 clothes, hole 7733 01:41:27,822 --> 01:41:29,490 collars 7734 01:41:29,490 --> 01:41:29,757 . I 7735 01:41:29,757 --> 01:41:30,125 have 7736 01:41:30,125 --> 01:41:30,524 a motion from 7737 01:41:30,524 --> 01:41:32,930 Caesar in 7738 01:41:32,930 --> 01:41:32,327 a second from, was 7739 01:41:32,327 --> 01:41:32,993 it 7740 01:41:32,993 --> 01:41:34,129 Jonathan? Yeah, and 7741 01:41:34,129 --> 01:41:34,496 I'd 7742 01:41:34,496 --> 01:41:34,863 like to 7743 01:41:34,863 --> 01:41:36,797 add a 7744 01:41:36,797 --> 01:41:37,698 , a friendly, hold 7745 01:41:37,698 --> 01:41:38,432 on 7746 01:41:38,432 --> 01:41:38,933 , 7747 01:41:38,933 --> 01:41:39,500 afterwards to 7748 01:41:39,500 --> 01:41:40,100 close afterwards 7749 01:41:40,100 --> 01:41:40,335 . 7750 01:41:40,335 --> 01:41:41,536 Sorry 7751 01:41:41,536 --> 01:41:41,669 . You'd like to 7752 01:41:41,669 --> 01:41:42,360 amend 7753 01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:43,872 closing 7754 01:41:43,872 --> 01:41:43,998 public comment not yet 7755 01:41:43,998 --> 01:41:44,472 . 7756 01:41:44,472 --> 01:41:45,473 All right. Sorry 7757 01:41:45,473 --> 01:41:46,140 , I 7758 01:41:46,140 --> 01:41:46,307 misunderstood the motion 7759 01:41:46,307 --> 01:41:46,641 . There 7760 01:41:46,641 --> 01:41:47,909 we go 7761 01:41:47,909 --> 01:41:49,909 . Um 7762 01:41:49,977 --> 01:41:50,153 . And this is 7763 01:41:50,153 --> 01:41:50,746 an 7764 01:41:50,746 --> 01:41:51,179 ordinance. David, would you 7765 01:41:51,179 --> 01:41:52,346 like to make 7766 01:41:52,346 --> 01:41:53,470 a motion? I would 7767 01:41:53,470 --> 01:41:53,381 like to make a motion. I would 7768 01:41:53,381 --> 01:41:54,949 like to 7769 01:41:54,949 --> 01:41:55,249 move that we 7770 01:41:55,249 --> 01:41:55,483 adopt 7771 01:41:55,483 --> 01:41:57,483 the 7772 01:41:57,785 --> 01:41:59,687 uh the ordinance with 7773 01:41:59,687 --> 01:42:00,655 the 7774 01:42:00,655 --> 01:42:01,989 amendment that 7775 01:42:01,989 --> 01:42:02,557 have the 7776 01:42:02,557 --> 01:42:04,325 the 7777 01:42:04,325 --> 01:42:04,892 processes spelled out in the 7778 01:42:04,892 --> 01:42:05,726 same way that the 7779 01:42:05,726 --> 01:42:06,427 other 7780 01:42:06,427 --> 01:42:07,295 ordinance does 7781 01:42:07,295 --> 01:42:08,950 , and also 7782 01:42:08,950 --> 01:42:08,896 that 7783 01:42:08,896 --> 01:42:10,398 the maximum 7784 01:42:10,398 --> 01:42:11,650 daily fine be 7785 01:42:11,650 --> 01:42:12,633 limited to no more 7786 01:42:12,633 --> 01:42:14,633 than $500 7787 01:42:15,236 --> 01:42:15,570 . 7788 01:42:15,570 --> 01:42:16,838 So we 7789 01:42:16,838 --> 01:42:17,572 have 7790 01:42:17,572 --> 01:42:17,972 a motion. All right, 7791 01:42:17,972 --> 01:42:19,700 we do have 7792 01:42:19,700 --> 01:42:19,540 a 7793 01:42:19,540 --> 01:42:20,208 second with a 7794 01:42:20,208 --> 01:42:21,943 reduced maximum 7795 01:42:21,943 --> 01:42:22,577 fine, let's say 7796 01:42:22,577 --> 01:42:23,679 go 7797 01:42:23,679 --> 01:42:24,345 to comment 7798 01:42:24,345 --> 01:42:24,545 , it's 500 7799 01:42:24,545 --> 01:42:24,913 normal, 7800 01:42:24,913 --> 01:42:26,347 I mean 7801 01:42:26,347 --> 01:42:26,714 . But 7802 01:42:26,714 --> 01:42:28,820 are other 7803 01:42:28,820 --> 01:42:28,783 cities 7804 01:42:28,783 --> 01:42:29,283 doing around that or are they 7805 01:42:29,283 --> 01:42:30,385 doing sticking 7806 01:42:30,385 --> 01:42:30,718 to 2000 7807 01:42:30,718 --> 01:42:30,885 ? I 7808 01:42:30,885 --> 01:42:31,586 think 7809 01:42:31,586 --> 01:42:32,654 the question is, what do 7810 01:42:32,654 --> 01:42:33,488 you 7811 01:42:33,488 --> 01:42:34,923 want to give your judge 7812 01:42:34,923 --> 01:42:35,790 the 7813 01:42:35,790 --> 01:42:36,900 authority to enforce, right? I 7814 01:42:36,900 --> 01:42:37,910 mean 7815 01:42:37,910 --> 01:42:37,659 , I'd 7816 01:42:37,659 --> 01:42:37,992 rather have the tools 7817 01:42:37,992 --> 01:42:39,861 in the 7818 01:42:39,861 --> 01:42:40,495 tool tools 7819 01:42:40,495 --> 01:42:40,621 and toolbox 7820 01:42:40,621 --> 01:42:40,862 . 7821 01:42:40,862 --> 01:42:41,796 It's 7822 01:42:41,796 --> 01:42:42,463 a bit 7823 01:42:42,463 --> 01:42:42,731 . Bigger 7824 01:42:42,731 --> 01:42:44,399 stick 7825 01:42:44,399 --> 01:42:44,999 . $500 7826 01:42:44,999 --> 01:42:46,834 a day still adds up 7827 01:42:46,834 --> 01:42:47,435 . $500. 7828 01:42:47,435 --> 01:42:49,700 Sorry, say it again 7829 01:42:49,700 --> 01:42:49,404 . $500 a day 7830 01:42:49,404 --> 01:42:50,839 still 7831 01:42:50,839 --> 01:42:51,720 adds 7832 01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:51,372 up 7833 01:42:51,372 --> 01:42:52,400 . I mean, if 7834 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:53,208 you're talking about a 7835 01:42:53,208 --> 01:42:53,875 separate 7836 01:42:53,875 --> 01:42:54,142 offenses each day that you 7837 01:42:54,142 --> 01:42:55,743 have 7838 01:42:55,743 --> 01:42:56,411 something 7839 01:42:56,411 --> 01:42:58,146 . So 7840 01:42:58,146 --> 01:42:58,646 $14,000 a 7841 01:42:58,646 --> 01:42:59,981 week 7842 01:42:59,981 --> 01:43:00,482 . 7843 01:43:00,482 --> 01:43:01,883 For high weeds 7844 01:43:01,883 --> 01:43:02,917 Mhm 7845 01:43:02,917 --> 01:43:04,486 I 7846 01:43:04,486 --> 01:43:05,153 , I'm sure 7847 01:43:05,153 --> 01:43:06,254 that it would that that 7848 01:43:06,254 --> 01:43:06,755 the 7849 01:43:06,755 --> 01:43:07,155 higher one would be for 7850 01:43:07,155 --> 01:43:07,689 something 7851 01:43:07,689 --> 01:43:09,230 more substantial 7852 01:43:09,230 --> 01:43:09,958 under this thing 7853 01:43:09,958 --> 01:43:11,292 , but you 7854 01:43:11,292 --> 01:43:11,412 know 7855 01:43:11,412 --> 01:43:11,660 , 7856 01:43:11,660 --> 01:43:11,993 for 7857 01:43:11,993 --> 01:43:13,595 one month 7858 01:43:13,595 --> 01:43:13,862 , $500 you know 7859 01:43:13,862 --> 01:43:14,129 , 7860 01:43:14,129 --> 01:43:15,864 is 7861 01:43:15,864 --> 01:43:16,650 uh $15,000 for a month 7862 01:43:16,650 --> 01:43:16,598 . So I 7863 01:43:16,598 --> 01:43:16,898 think, I still 7864 01:43:16,898 --> 01:43:18,633 think 7865 01:43:18,633 --> 01:43:19,000 that's 7866 01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,000 right 7867 01:43:22,771 --> 01:43:24,706 . Talking all night but 7868 01:43:24,706 --> 01:43:25,407 I 7869 01:43:25,407 --> 01:43:27,407 feel you, Caesar 7870 01:43:27,542 --> 01:43:27,876 My motion 7871 01:43:27,876 --> 01:43:29,511 passes 7872 01:43:29,511 --> 01:43:29,744 Thank 7873 01:43:29,744 --> 01:43:31,680 you 7874 01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:31,846 her 7875 01:43:31,846 --> 01:43:32,247 , that 7876 01:43:32,247 --> 01:43:34,247 brings us 7877 01:43:34,249 --> 01:43:35,500 to 7d, and Robert, 7878 01:43:35,500 --> 01:43:36,318 I'm not kidding, you might want 7879 01:43:36,318 --> 01:43:37,919 to sit down for this one 7880 01:43:37,919 --> 01:43:38,320 . I 7881 01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:38,920 really, 7d 7882 01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:40,622 is conduct a public 7883 01:43:40,622 --> 01:43:41,389 hearing and consider approving 7884 01:43:41,389 --> 01:43:41,656 an ordinance on first reading 7885 01:43:41,656 --> 01:43:42,524 with 7886 01:43:42,524 --> 01:43:42,858 a 7887 01:43:42,858 --> 01:43:43,158 caption 7888 01:43:43,158 --> 01:43:43,859 reading 7889 01:43:43,859 --> 01:43:44,626 ordinance of the city 7890 01:43:44,626 --> 01:43:45,427 of 7891 01:43:45,427 --> 01:43:46,128 Flugerville, Texas, amending 7892 01:43:46,128 --> 01:43:46,895 the city of Flugerville 7893 01:43:46,895 --> 01:43:47,496 , Texas 7894 01:43:47,496 --> 01:43:48,497 Code of Ordinances 7895 01:43:48,497 --> 01:43:49,431 , Chapter 150 7896 01:43:49,431 --> 01:43:51,431 Adding 7897 01:43:51,500 --> 01:43:52,000 section 7898 01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:52,701 150.18 regarding 7899 01:43:52,701 --> 01:43:52,968 the means of appeal 7900 01:43:52,968 --> 01:43:53,769 in 7901 01:43:53,769 --> 01:43:54,703 the 7902 01:43:54,703 --> 01:43:55,360 International Business 7903 01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:55,570 Code 7904 01:43:55,570 --> 01:43:56,371 2021 7905 01:43:56,371 --> 01:43:56,805 edition 7906 01:43:56,805 --> 01:43:57,372 , the 7907 01:43:57,372 --> 01:43:58,730 International 7908 01:43:58,730 --> 01:43:58,540 Residential Code 7909 01:43:58,540 --> 01:43:59,740 2021 7910 01:43:59,740 --> 01:43:59,307 edition 7911 01:43:59,307 --> 01:43:59,608 , 7912 01:43:59,608 --> 01:44:00,108 the 7913 01:44:00,108 --> 01:44:00,676 International 7914 01:44:00,676 --> 01:44:01,109 Plumbing 7915 01:44:01,109 --> 01:44:01,743 Code 7916 01:44:01,743 --> 01:44:03,679 2021 edition 7917 01:44:03,679 --> 01:44:04,790 International 7918 01:44:04,790 --> 01:44:04,713 Mechanical 7919 01:44:04,713 --> 01:44:05,347 Code 7920 01:44:05,347 --> 01:44:06,581 2021 edition 7921 01:44:06,581 --> 01:44:07,215 . 7922 01:44:07,215 --> 01:44:07,916 International Fuel gas 7923 01:44:07,916 --> 01:44:08,583 Code 7924 01:44:08,583 --> 01:44:09,951 2021 edition 7925 01:44:09,951 --> 01:44:10,486 . International 7926 01:44:10,486 --> 01:44:12,870 Energy 7927 01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:12,488 Conservation Code 7928 01:44:12,488 --> 01:44:12,855 2021 7929 01:44:12,855 --> 01:44:14,456 edition 7930 01:44:14,456 --> 01:44:14,756 . International Fire 7931 01:44:14,756 --> 01:44:16,756 Code 7932 01:44:17,259 --> 01:44:17,559 . 2021 7933 01:44:17,559 --> 01:44:19,161 edition 7934 01:44:19,161 --> 01:44:19,928 . 7935 01:44:19,928 --> 01:44:21,163 International existing Building 7936 01:44:21,163 --> 01:44:21,530 Code 2021 7937 01:44:21,530 --> 01:44:23,980 edition 7938 01:44:23,980 --> 01:44:23,599 . 7939 01:44:23,599 --> 01:44:24,132 International Property 7940 01:44:24,132 --> 01:44:25,767 Maintenance Code 7941 01:44:25,767 --> 01:44:26,234 2021 edition 7942 01:44:26,234 --> 01:44:26,835 . 7943 01:44:26,835 --> 01:44:27,703 International swimming 7944 01:44:27,703 --> 01:44:27,936 pool 7945 01:44:27,936 --> 01:44:28,805 and 7946 01:44:28,805 --> 01:44:30,706 spa code 7947 01:44:30,706 --> 01:44:31,374 2021 edition 7948 01:44:31,374 --> 01:44:31,740 with 7949 01:44:31,740 --> 01:44:32,374 amendments 7950 01:44:32,374 --> 01:44:32,808 to 7951 01:44:32,808 --> 01:44:33,542 meet local 7952 01:44:33,542 --> 01:44:34,710 conditions, providing that 7953 01:44:34,710 --> 01:44:35,278 this 7954 01:44:35,278 --> 01:44:35,877 ordinance shall 7955 01:44:35,877 --> 01:44:36,278 be cumulative, 7956 01:44:36,278 --> 01:44:37,279 repealing 7957 01:44:37,279 --> 01:44:37,880 all ordinances to the 7958 01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:38,480 extent they are 7959 01:44:38,480 --> 01:44:38,947 in conflict 7960 01:44:38,947 --> 01:44:39,348 , 7961 01:44:39,348 --> 01:44:39,915 providing 7962 01:44:39,915 --> 01:44:40,482 for 7963 01:44:40,482 --> 01:44:41,250 severability 7964 01:44:41,250 --> 01:44:41,850 and 7965 01:44:41,850 --> 01:44:42,840 providing 7966 01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:42,551 an 7967 01:44:42,551 --> 01:44:44,120 effective date 7968 01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:44,720 . 7969 01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:45,540 Sorry about that. That's all 7970 01:44:45,540 --> 01:44:45,921 right 7971 01:44:45,921 --> 01:44:46,389 . You've got a lot 7972 01:44:46,389 --> 01:44:47,890 of 7973 01:44:47,890 --> 01:44:48,624 , um, 7974 01:44:48,624 --> 01:44:50,292 and I've got to enforce them 7975 01:44:50,292 --> 01:44:51,193 as 7976 01:44:51,193 --> 01:44:52,628 currently adopted 7977 01:44:52,628 --> 01:44:53,562 when we did 7978 01:44:53,562 --> 01:44:55,230 the 7979 01:44:55,230 --> 01:44:55,597 2022 in back 7980 01:44:55,597 --> 01:44:55,784 in APRIL 7981 01:44:55,784 --> 01:44:55,998 , 7982 01:44:55,998 --> 01:44:57,399 MARCH 7983 01:44:57,399 --> 01:44:57,733 of 2022 when we 7984 01:44:57,733 --> 01:44:59,568 adopted 7985 01:44:59,568 --> 01:45:00,360 the 2021 Code 7986 01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:00,602 of Sweets that 7987 01:45:00,602 --> 01:45:02,371 you just read out 7988 01:45:02,371 --> 01:45:04,206 . Uh, as an 7989 01:45:04,206 --> 01:45:04,440 oversight on my part 7990 01:45:04,440 --> 01:45:04,706 . We 7991 01:45:04,706 --> 01:45:06,706 are 7992 01:45:07,176 --> 01:45:07,476 currently referencing Section 7993 01:45:07,476 --> 01:45:08,445 2.3 7994 01:45:08,445 --> 01:45:09,110 of the city 7995 01:45:09,110 --> 01:45:11,110 of Flurevo 7996 01:45:11,460 --> 01:45:11,714 Unified Development Code, Board 7997 01:45:11,714 --> 01:45:13,820 of Adjustments 7998 01:45:13,820 --> 01:45:13,215 . But 7999 01:45:13,215 --> 01:45:13,549 their 8000 01:45:13,549 --> 01:45:15,549 duties 8001 01:45:15,651 --> 01:45:17,520 in 8002 01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:18,120 that section are in 8003 01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:19,922 terms of zoning 8004 01:45:19,922 --> 01:45:20,456 . And variance 8005 01:45:20,456 --> 01:45:21,825 requests. They're 8006 01:45:21,825 --> 01:45:22,558 , they're 8007 01:45:22,558 --> 01:45:24,493 planning board of adjustments 8008 01:45:24,493 --> 01:45:25,161 . 8009 01:45:25,161 --> 01:45:25,461 Going through, I don't know 8010 01:45:25,461 --> 01:45:26,528 what 8011 01:45:26,528 --> 01:45:27,329 , I can't remember what 8012 01:45:27,329 --> 01:45:28,697 tipped me off on this, but 8013 01:45:28,697 --> 01:45:29,298 I 8014 01:45:29,298 --> 01:45:29,565 found out, you 8015 01:45:29,565 --> 01:45:29,899 know, it was 8016 01:45:29,899 --> 01:45:31,667 wrong 8017 01:45:31,667 --> 01:45:33,202 So with this 8018 01:45:33,202 --> 01:45:33,636 amendment 8019 01:45:33,636 --> 01:45:33,869 seeks to do 8020 01:45:33,869 --> 01:45:35,471 as 8021 01:45:35,471 --> 01:45:35,871 correctly 8022 01:45:35,871 --> 01:45:36,238 reference 8023 01:45:36,238 --> 01:45:36,639 the appeals to the 8024 01:45:36,639 --> 01:45:38,400 Board of 8025 01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:38,507 Adjustments as 8026 01:45:38,507 --> 01:45:40,420 described in 8027 01:45:40,420 --> 01:45:40,676 Chapter 150, it 8028 01:45:40,676 --> 01:45:42,278 already exists 8029 01:45:42,278 --> 01:45:42,478 . It's Article 8030 01:45:42,478 --> 01:45:43,145 4 8031 01:45:43,145 --> 01:45:43,646 , 8032 01:45:43,646 --> 01:45:45,148 Section 15,040 8033 01:45:45,148 --> 01:45:45,448 This section of 8034 01:45:45,448 --> 01:45:46,582 the 8035 01:45:46,582 --> 01:45:47,249 code 8036 01:45:47,249 --> 01:45:47,783 correctly 8037 01:45:47,783 --> 01:45:49,452 references 8038 01:45:49,452 --> 01:45:49,785 variances in terms of the 8039 01:45:49,785 --> 01:45:51,721 city 8040 01:45:51,721 --> 01:45:52,388 construction code. It's a 8041 01:45:52,388 --> 01:45:52,788 construction board of 8042 01:45:52,788 --> 01:45:54,223 adjustment 8043 01:45:54,223 --> 01:45:55,491 . Instead 8044 01:45:55,491 --> 01:45:55,617 of 8045 01:45:55,617 --> 01:45:55,958 uh 8046 01:45:55,958 --> 01:45:56,392 planning 8047 01:45:56,392 --> 01:45:58,270 . Uh 8048 01:45:58,270 --> 01:45:58,327 , they shall 8049 01:45:58,327 --> 01:45:59,610 govern 8050 01:45:59,610 --> 01:46:00,196 appeals taken from the actions 8051 01:46:00,196 --> 01:46:00,429 of 8052 01:46:00,429 --> 01:46:00,963 an 8053 01:46:00,963 --> 01:46:01,330 administrative official 8054 01:46:01,330 --> 01:46:02,231 pursuant 8055 01:46:02,231 --> 01:46:02,531 to 8056 01:46:02,531 --> 01:46:03,266 the city 8057 01:46:03,266 --> 01:46:03,633 construction code. That's their 8058 01:46:03,633 --> 01:46:04,567 mandate 8059 01:46:04,567 --> 01:46:05,534 or duty 8060 01:46:05,534 --> 01:46:06,736 . So 8061 01:46:06,736 --> 01:46:07,303 just for 8062 01:46:07,303 --> 01:46:09,500 clarity, this moves 8063 01:46:09,500 --> 01:46:09,739 it from 8064 01:46:09,739 --> 01:46:10,600 planning and zoning to board 8065 01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:10,573 of 8066 01:46:10,573 --> 01:46:12,800 adjustment. Correct 8067 01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:14,800 . To 8068 01:46:14,343 --> 01:46:14,945 counsel 8069 01:46:14,945 --> 01:46:15,778 there's not really a 8070 01:46:15,778 --> 01:46:16,145 good name 8071 01:46:16,145 --> 01:46:16,612 for it 8072 01:46:16,612 --> 01:46:16,979 , but 8073 01:46:16,979 --> 01:46:17,313 it's construction 8074 01:46:17,313 --> 01:46:18,347 board 8075 01:46:18,347 --> 01:46:18,781 of adjustment 8076 01:46:18,781 --> 01:46:19,150 . I'm 8077 01:46:19,150 --> 01:46:20,516 , I 8078 01:46:20,516 --> 01:46:21,317 guess I'm, I 8079 01:46:21,317 --> 01:46:21,751 like clarification 8080 01:46:21,751 --> 01:46:22,752 because you 8081 01:46:22,752 --> 01:46:23,286 said the 8082 01:46:23,286 --> 01:46:23,419 first 8083 01:46:23,419 --> 01:46:23,686 time 8084 01:46:23,686 --> 01:46:25,686 it 8085 01:46:25,721 --> 01:46:26,756 references to Board 8086 01:46:26,756 --> 01:46:27,523 of 8087 01:46:27,523 --> 01:46:28,291 Adjustments related to zoning 8088 01:46:28,291 --> 01:46:29,392 and variance requests 8089 01:46:29,392 --> 01:46:29,992 so that 8090 01:46:29,992 --> 01:46:30,326 this corrects it 8091 01:46:30,326 --> 01:46:30,626 to 8092 01:46:30,626 --> 01:46:31,861 to 8093 01:46:31,861 --> 01:46:32,695 ref 8094 01:46:32,695 --> 01:46:33,129 reference construction board of 8095 01:46:33,129 --> 01:46:34,363 adjustment? Do 8096 01:46:34,363 --> 01:46:34,472 we have 8097 01:46:34,472 --> 01:46:35,331 two 8098 01:46:35,331 --> 01:46:36,833 different board of adjustments 8099 01:46:36,833 --> 01:46:37,133 ? 8100 01:46:37,133 --> 01:46:38,567 Your 8101 01:46:38,567 --> 01:46:39,168 going 8102 01:46:39,168 --> 01:46:40,737 a 8103 01:46:40,737 --> 01:46:41,437 movie on it you're 8104 01:46:41,437 --> 01:46:42,672 going to have to create 8105 01:46:42,672 --> 01:46:42,829 one 8106 01:46:42,829 --> 01:46:43,306 . 8107 01:46:43,306 --> 01:46:43,673 You're going to 8108 01:46:43,673 --> 01:46:44,400 appoint people 8109 01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:45,275 to that 8110 01:46:45,275 --> 01:46:45,541 . Ok 8111 01:46:45,541 --> 01:46:45,775 , so 8112 01:46:45,775 --> 01:46:46,109 it 8113 01:46:46,109 --> 01:46:47,610 , so we 8114 01:46:47,610 --> 01:46:47,910 have 8115 01:46:47,910 --> 01:46:48,545 a 8116 01:46:48,545 --> 01:46:49,479 current, so our current 8117 01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:50,313 board 8118 01:46:50,313 --> 01:46:50,613 of adjustments is 8119 01:46:50,613 --> 01:46:51,714 solely 8120 01:46:51,714 --> 01:46:52,115 for 8121 01:46:52,115 --> 01:46:52,782 zoning and 8122 01:46:52,782 --> 01:46:53,160 variance 8123 01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:53,316 requests. 8124 01:46:53,316 --> 01:46:54,217 And 8125 01:46:54,217 --> 01:46:54,684 so now 8126 01:46:54,684 --> 01:46:55,151 you're saying 8127 01:46:55,151 --> 01:46:56,719 that 8128 01:46:56,719 --> 01:46:56,987 this 8129 01:46:56,987 --> 01:46:57,387 will 8130 01:46:57,387 --> 01:46:57,587 correctly 8131 01:46:57,587 --> 01:46:57,888 reference 8132 01:46:57,888 --> 01:46:59,122 the 8133 01:46:59,122 --> 01:46:59,923 the 8134 01:46:59,923 --> 01:47:00,323 appropriate 8135 01:47:00,323 --> 01:47:01,900 um location 8136 01:47:01,900 --> 01:47:01,391 and we 8137 01:47:01,391 --> 01:47:01,791 are now 8138 01:47:01,791 --> 01:47:02,580 also gonna 8139 01:47:02,580 --> 01:47:03,259 have 8140 01:47:03,259 --> 01:47:03,560 to to 8141 01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:04,270 have a 8142 01:47:04,270 --> 01:47:04,260 second board 8143 01:47:04,260 --> 01:47:04,895 of 8144 01:47:04,895 --> 01:47:05,461 adjustment 8145 01:47:05,461 --> 01:47:06,290 for 8146 01:47:06,290 --> 01:47:06,529 construction 8147 01:47:06,529 --> 01:47:07,297 . 8148 01:47:07,297 --> 01:47:07,831 Correct, but I'm sorry, bored 8149 01:47:07,831 --> 01:47:08,297 of 8150 01:47:08,297 --> 01:47:08,765 appeal 8151 01:47:08,765 --> 01:47:09,166 . It was oh 8152 01:47:09,166 --> 01:47:09,766 , Board 8153 01:47:09,766 --> 01:47:10,133 of 8154 01:47:10,133 --> 01:47:10,867 Appeals 8155 01:47:10,867 --> 01:47:11,501 . Ok 8156 01:47:11,501 --> 01:47:11,767 if this board 8157 01:47:11,767 --> 01:47:12,769 of 8158 01:47:12,769 --> 01:47:13,236 adjustment could serve 8159 01:47:13,236 --> 01:47:13,670 as 8160 01:47:13,670 --> 01:47:13,970 both, 8161 01:47:13,970 --> 01:47:14,371 but 8162 01:47:14,371 --> 01:47:15,500 I think 8163 01:47:15,500 --> 01:47:15,171 you're looking 8164 01:47:15,171 --> 01:47:15,738 at 8165 01:47:15,738 --> 01:47:16,573 two very different 8166 01:47:16,573 --> 01:47:17,107 disciplines 8167 01:47:17,107 --> 01:47:17,775 when you're talking about 8168 01:47:17,775 --> 01:47:19,775 planning the construction 8169 01:47:21,377 --> 01:47:22,110 . And 8170 01:47:22,110 --> 01:47:23,913 therefore it's been 8171 01:47:23,913 --> 01:47:24,790 argued 8172 01:47:24,790 --> 01:47:24,714 that 8173 01:47:24,714 --> 01:47:26,149 they should be separate 8174 01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:27,500 . Are 8175 01:47:27,500 --> 01:47:27,951 there statutory requirements 8176 01:47:27,951 --> 01:47:28,351 for the 8177 01:47:28,351 --> 01:47:30,351 uh 8178 01:47:30,487 --> 01:47:31,210 the 8179 01:47:31,210 --> 01:47:31,189 appointees? No 8180 01:47:31,189 --> 01:47:31,355 . 8181 01:47:31,355 --> 01:47:32,956 Uh 8182 01:47:32,956 --> 01:47:33,189 in 8183 01:47:33,189 --> 01:47:34,758 a 8184 01:47:34,758 --> 01:47:34,991 perfect world 8185 01:47:34,991 --> 01:47:35,626 , you 8186 01:47:35,626 --> 01:47:35,925 probably should have people 8187 01:47:35,925 --> 01:47:36,927 from 8188 01:47:36,927 --> 01:47:37,260 the 8189 01:47:37,260 --> 01:47:37,628 various 8190 01:47:37,628 --> 01:47:38,610 disciplines of 8191 01:47:38,610 --> 01:47:39,429 construction 8192 01:47:39,429 --> 01:47:39,730 , maybe a 8193 01:47:39,730 --> 01:47:40,430 plumber 8194 01:47:40,430 --> 01:47:41,498 or electrician, mechanical 8195 01:47:41,498 --> 01:47:41,865 , 8196 01:47:41,865 --> 01:47:42,699 general 8197 01:47:42,699 --> 01:47:43,967 , general 8198 01:47:43,967 --> 01:47:44,301 contractor, 8199 01:47:44,301 --> 01:47:44,801 maybe 8200 01:47:44,801 --> 01:47:45,135 an engineer 8201 01:47:45,135 --> 01:47:46,436 . But 8202 01:47:46,436 --> 01:47:48,436 no 8203 01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:49,539 Some 8204 01:47:49,539 --> 01:47:50,640 municipalities 8205 01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:51,141 do stipulate 8206 01:47:51,141 --> 01:47:51,441 . 8207 01:47:51,441 --> 01:47:52,543 The 8208 01:47:52,543 --> 01:47:52,842 state 8209 01:47:52,842 --> 01:47:53,577 law for 8210 01:47:53,577 --> 01:47:55,577 like let's 8211 01:47:55,779 --> 01:47:56,213 say Texas Texas State Board of 8212 01:47:56,213 --> 01:47:58,480 Plumbing Code 8213 01:47:58,480 --> 01:47:59,816 . Their nine board 8214 01:47:59,816 --> 01:48:00,183 member does stipulate, you know 8215 01:48:00,183 --> 01:48:01,685 you got 8216 01:48:01,685 --> 01:48:02,185 to 8217 01:48:02,185 --> 01:48:02,385 have contractor 8218 01:48:02,385 --> 01:48:02,819 , an 8219 01:48:02,819 --> 01:48:04,120 electrician 8220 01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:04,487 , a plumber 8221 01:48:04,487 --> 01:48:05,155 , master 8222 01:48:05,155 --> 01:48:06,323 plumber, and things of 8223 01:48:06,323 --> 01:48:07,123 that 8224 01:48:07,123 --> 01:48:07,824 They, the 8225 01:48:07,824 --> 01:48:08,592 specific disciplines 8226 01:48:08,592 --> 01:48:08,892 . 8227 01:48:08,892 --> 01:48:09,426 But 8228 01:48:09,426 --> 01:48:10,427 this, no, this 8229 01:48:10,427 --> 01:48:11,950 , this 8230 01:48:11,950 --> 01:48:11,761 doesn't have those 8231 01:48:11,761 --> 01:48:13,761 . Right 8232 01:48:15,532 --> 01:48:15,666 Uh 8233 01:48:15,666 --> 01:48:16,399 , 8234 01:48:16,399 --> 01:48:18,799 counsel, any other questions 8235 01:48:20,203 --> 01:48:20,805 This again, just sorry, one 8236 01:48:20,805 --> 01:48:21,972 last comment. This is 8237 01:48:21,972 --> 01:48:22,339 one of 8238 01:48:22,339 --> 01:48:22,906 those 8239 01:48:22,906 --> 01:48:24,107 boards that 8240 01:48:24,107 --> 01:48:24,441 we're going 8241 01:48:24,441 --> 01:48:25,750 to meet 8242 01:48:25,750 --> 01:48:25,375 , hopefully once in in 8243 01:48:25,375 --> 01:48:26,443 the 8244 01:48:26,443 --> 01:48:26,777 18 years 8245 01:48:26,777 --> 01:48:27,545 I've been doing 8246 01:48:27,545 --> 01:48:28,879 this, I've never had 8247 01:48:28,879 --> 01:48:29,346 anyone 8248 01:48:29,346 --> 01:48:29,746 appeal one of 8249 01:48:29,746 --> 01:48:30,181 my decisions all 8250 01:48:30,181 --> 01:48:30,981 the way to 8251 01:48:30,981 --> 01:48:31,848 a 8252 01:48:31,848 --> 01:48:32,182 border adjustments 8253 01:48:32,182 --> 01:48:32,683 We've 8254 01:48:32,683 --> 01:48:33,283 always been able 8255 01:48:33,283 --> 01:48:33,683 to work 8256 01:48:33,683 --> 01:48:34,185 things 8257 01:48:34,185 --> 01:48:35,652 out amicably 8258 01:48:35,652 --> 01:48:36,386 . There's 8259 01:48:36,386 --> 01:48:37,988 provisions in the code that 8260 01:48:37,988 --> 01:48:38,622 allow me to 8261 01:48:38,622 --> 01:48:38,955 grant modifications 8262 01:48:38,955 --> 01:48:40,390 to the 8263 01:48:40,390 --> 01:48:40,791 code 8264 01:48:40,791 --> 01:48:41,580 provisions as long 8265 01:48:41,580 --> 01:48:42,159 as 8266 01:48:42,159 --> 01:48:42,693 the 8267 01:48:42,693 --> 01:48:42,993 original intent of the 8268 01:48:42,993 --> 01:48:43,460 code 8269 01:48:43,460 --> 01:48:44,661 is met 8270 01:48:44,661 --> 01:48:45,290 , and the 8271 01:48:45,290 --> 01:48:45,729 safety is 8272 01:48:45,729 --> 01:48:46,797 not diminished by 8273 01:48:46,797 --> 01:48:47,231 that 8274 01:48:47,231 --> 01:48:47,465 modification 8275 01:48:47,465 --> 01:48:49,465 . So 8276 01:48:49,499 --> 01:48:50,670 again, we'll 8277 01:48:50,670 --> 01:48:51,135 meet once hopefully 8278 01:48:51,135 --> 01:48:51,401 and 8279 01:48:51,401 --> 01:48:51,935 never 8280 01:48:51,935 --> 01:48:53,837 meet again, but 8281 01:48:53,837 --> 01:48:54,104 is 8282 01:48:54,104 --> 01:48:54,705 there a 8283 01:48:54,705 --> 01:48:56,600 specific case pending 8284 01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:56,807 that uh 8285 01:48:56,807 --> 01:48:57,941 that's requiring this? No. Ok 8286 01:48:57,941 --> 01:48:58,608 . 8287 01:48:58,608 --> 01:48:58,976 This is just part 8288 01:48:58,976 --> 01:49:00,577 of normal 8289 01:49:00,577 --> 01:49:02,546 code adoption. This 8290 01:49:02,546 --> 01:49:03,180 it was 8291 01:49:03,180 --> 01:49:03,480 there it was just referencing 8292 01:49:03,480 --> 01:49:04,681 the 8293 01:49:04,681 --> 01:49:05,182 wrong 8294 01:49:05,182 --> 01:49:05,816 places. Uh, any other 8295 01:49:05,816 --> 01:49:07,500 questions, counsel 8296 01:49:07,500 --> 01:49:07,317 ? No 8297 01:49:07,317 --> 01:49:07,551 . This 8298 01:49:07,551 --> 01:49:07,885 is 8299 01:49:07,885 --> 01:49:09,553 a 8300 01:49:09,553 --> 01:49:10,870 public hearing. Is there 8301 01:49:10,870 --> 01:49:10,387 anyone from the 8302 01:49:10,387 --> 01:49:10,655 public wishing 8303 01:49:10,655 --> 01:49:11,688 to 8304 01:49:11,688 --> 01:49:12,289 speak 8305 01:49:12,289 --> 01:49:14,289 on this item 8306 01:49:14,792 --> 01:49:14,937 ? Move 8307 01:49:14,937 --> 01:49:15,559 to 8308 01:49:15,559 --> 01:49:16,860 close the public hearing 8309 01:49:16,860 --> 01:49:18,362 Second 8310 01:49:18,362 --> 01:49:18,829 of a 8311 01:49:18,829 --> 01:49:19,263 motion from David, 2nd 8312 01:49:19,263 --> 01:49:20,731 from Caesar 8313 01:49:20,731 --> 01:49:22,731 . Mm 8314 01:49:25,903 --> 01:49:27,710 Uh, all 8315 01:49:27,710 --> 01:49:27,605 right. 8316 01:49:27,605 --> 01:49:28,500 Uh, this is an 8317 01:49:28,500 --> 01:49:28,272 ordinance before 8318 01:49:28,272 --> 01:49:30,272 us 8319 01:49:32,309 --> 01:49:33,978 . Anyone wishing 8320 01:49:33,978 --> 01:49:34,578 to 8321 01:49:34,578 --> 01:49:36,480 take 70 8322 01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:36,747 . 8323 01:49:36,747 --> 01:49:37,115 2 8324 01:49:37,115 --> 01:49:38,482 . I have 8325 01:49:38,482 --> 01:49:38,916 a 8326 01:49:38,916 --> 01:49:39,650 motion from 8327 01:49:39,650 --> 01:49:42,500 Kimberly, 2nd from Caesar 8328 01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:50,861 . The 8329 01:49:50,861 --> 01:49:51,696 motion passes unanimously 8330 01:49:51,696 --> 01:49:52,296 . 8331 01:49:52,296 --> 01:49:52,596 Robert, you heard 8332 01:49:52,596 --> 01:49:52,930 . A 8333 01:49:52,930 --> 01:49:54,431 number 8334 01:49:54,431 --> 01:49:54,999 of 8335 01:49:54,999 --> 01:49:55,533 folks being 8336 01:49:55,533 --> 01:49:57,100 thankful for, for 8337 01:49:57,100 --> 01:49:57,535 your diligence and 8338 01:49:57,535 --> 01:49:58,536 your 8339 01:49:58,536 --> 01:49:59,269 , uh, uh 8340 01:49:59,269 --> 01:49:59,737 the work you put into this. I 8341 01:49:59,737 --> 01:50:01,238 want to 8342 01:50:01,238 --> 01:50:01,439 personally express 8343 01:50:01,439 --> 01:50:02,600 my 8344 01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:03,173 gratitude, uh, for 8345 01:50:03,173 --> 01:50:03,641 your 8346 01:50:03,641 --> 01:50:04,175 initiative. Uh 8347 01:50:04,175 --> 01:50:04,475 , I understood at 8348 01:50:04,475 --> 01:50:05,643 the 8349 01:50:05,643 --> 01:50:06,311 beginning you mentioned, 8350 01:50:06,311 --> 01:50:06,911 you know, you took on 8351 01:50:06,911 --> 01:50:08,312 some 8352 01:50:08,312 --> 01:50:09,460 responsibilities and discovered 8353 01:50:09,460 --> 01:50:09,164 some things that needed 8354 01:50:09,164 --> 01:50:09,480 to 8355 01:50:09,480 --> 01:50:10,115 happen 8356 01:50:10,115 --> 01:50:10,481 , and 8357 01:50:10,481 --> 01:50:11,820 I 8358 01:50:11,820 --> 01:50:11,382 really appreciate 8359 01:50:11,382 --> 01:50:12,383 that 8360 01:50:12,383 --> 01:50:12,883 you 8361 01:50:12,883 --> 01:50:13,385 , uh, took 8362 01:50:13,385 --> 01:50:14,118 the pride 8363 01:50:14,118 --> 01:50:14,752 of 8364 01:50:14,752 --> 01:50:15,152 ownership 8365 01:50:15,152 --> 01:50:15,486 in ensuring 8366 01:50:15,486 --> 01:50:15,986 that 8367 01:50:15,986 --> 01:50:17,540 these codes 8368 01:50:17,540 --> 01:50:17,355 are 8369 01:50:17,355 --> 01:50:17,588 up 8370 01:50:17,588 --> 01:50:17,822 to 8371 01:50:17,822 --> 01:50:18,222 your 8372 01:50:18,222 --> 01:50:19,256 standards 8373 01:50:19,256 --> 01:50:19,991 , um, and I hope we 8374 01:50:19,991 --> 01:50:20,358 all have those high standards. 8375 01:50:20,358 --> 01:50:21,725 So thank 8376 01:50:21,725 --> 01:50:22,226 you very much. Yes sir 8377 01:50:22,226 --> 01:50:23,495 I think he did 8378 01:50:23,495 --> 01:50:24,696 that pun 8379 01:50:24,696 --> 01:50:25,620 on 8380 01:50:25,620 --> 01:50:26,297 purpose 8381 01:50:26,297 --> 01:50:26,564 . Uh 8382 01:50:26,564 --> 01:50:28,660 , that 8383 01:50:28,660 --> 01:50:29,670 brings us to 8384 01:50:29,670 --> 01:50:30,535 item 7e, which is to conduct a 8385 01:50:30,535 --> 01:50:31,350 public hearing 8386 01:50:31,350 --> 01:50:31,268 and 8387 01:50:31,268 --> 01:50:31,669 consider 8388 01:50:31,669 --> 01:50:32,870 approving 8389 01:50:32,870 --> 01:50:33,505 an ordinance on first 8390 01:50:33,505 --> 01:50:35,172 reading with caption 8391 01:50:35,172 --> 01:50:35,806 reading 8392 01:50:35,806 --> 01:50:36,375 and ordinance of the city of 8393 01:50:36,375 --> 01:50:36,707 Flugerville, Texas 8394 01:50:36,707 --> 01:50:37,740 , amending 8395 01:50:37,740 --> 01:50:37,642 the 8396 01:50:37,642 --> 01:50:38,900 city's master fee 8397 01:50:38,900 --> 01:50:38,543 schedule 8398 01:50:38,543 --> 01:50:39,610 related to fees 8399 01:50:39,610 --> 01:50:39,911 for 8400 01:50:39,911 --> 01:50:40,344 temporary 8401 01:50:40,344 --> 01:50:40,745 certificates 8402 01:50:40,745 --> 01:50:41,245 of 8403 01:50:41,245 --> 01:50:41,879 occupancy. Uh 8404 01:50:41,879 --> 01:50:42,313 , 8405 01:50:42,313 --> 01:50:43,781 we have our 8406 01:50:43,781 --> 01:50:44,382 , uh, director 8407 01:50:44,382 --> 01:50:44,749 Ashley Bailey here 8408 01:50:44,749 --> 01:50:45,182 to present 8409 01:50:45,182 --> 01:50:45,517 to us 8410 01:50:45,517 --> 01:50:46,751 , uh, this 8411 01:50:46,751 --> 01:50:47,418 evening 8412 01:50:47,418 --> 01:50:47,952 . Good 8413 01:50:47,952 --> 01:50:48,319 evening, Mayor 8414 01:50:48,319 --> 01:50:48,920 and council for 8415 01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:49,287 the record, Ashley Daley 8416 01:50:49,287 --> 01:50:50,521 Planning 8417 01:50:50,521 --> 01:50:50,855 and 8418 01:50:50,855 --> 01:50:51,455 Development 8419 01:50:51,455 --> 01:50:52,590 Services Director. Um 8420 01:50:52,590 --> 01:50:53,225 , this 8421 01:50:53,225 --> 01:50:53,958 item before you actually came 8422 01:50:53,958 --> 01:50:55,393 up in a work session, as you 8423 01:50:55,393 --> 01:50:55,693 MAY 8424 01:50:55,693 --> 01:50:56,160 recall 8425 01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:56,528 , this really just 8426 01:50:56,528 --> 01:50:57,328 provides 8427 01:50:57,328 --> 01:50:57,795 the 8428 01:50:57,795 --> 01:50:57,943 flexibility 8429 01:50:57,943 --> 01:50:58,396 to 8430 01:50:58,396 --> 01:50:59,597 reduce some of 8431 01:50:59,597 --> 01:51:00,650 those temporary 8432 01:51:00,650 --> 01:51:00,498 uh certificate 8433 01:51:00,498 --> 01:51:00,898 of 8434 01:51:00,898 --> 01:51:01,199 occupancy 8435 01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:02,133 sees 8436 01:51:02,133 --> 01:51:02,533 , uh, you 8437 01:51:02,533 --> 01:51:02,700 MAY recall 8438 01:51:02,700 --> 01:51:03,350 the 8439 01:51:03,350 --> 01:51:03,268 first 8440 01:51:03,268 --> 01:51:03,701 is 8441 01:51:03,701 --> 01:51:04,268 100, then 8442 01:51:04,268 --> 01:51:04,435 it goes 8443 01:51:04,435 --> 01:51:04,736 to 8444 01:51:04,736 --> 01:51:05,369 250 8445 01:51:05,369 --> 01:51:06,771 , 500 8446 01:51:06,771 --> 01:51:07,205 . After 8447 01:51:07,205 --> 01:51:07,739 that 8448 01:51:07,739 --> 01:51:08,720 third item 8449 01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:09,207 it 8450 01:51:09,207 --> 01:51:09,640 can double 8451 01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:09,941 every month 8452 01:51:09,941 --> 01:51:10,241 . They 8453 01:51:10,241 --> 01:51:10,608 are 8454 01:51:10,608 --> 01:51:11,476 for 30 days 8455 01:51:11,476 --> 01:51:11,976 , so 8456 01:51:11,976 --> 01:51:12,310 every 8457 01:51:12,310 --> 01:51:12,744 um 8458 01:51:12,744 --> 01:51:13,145 tco is for 8459 01:51:13,145 --> 01:51:13,611 a little 8460 01:51:13,611 --> 01:51:14,120 bit 8461 01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:14,412 . 8462 01:51:14,412 --> 01:51:14,879 Typically 8463 01:51:14,879 --> 01:51:15,113 these resolved 8464 01:51:15,113 --> 01:51:15,414 within 8465 01:51:15,414 --> 01:51:15,847 the 8466 01:51:15,847 --> 01:51:16,814 1st 2 months 8467 01:51:16,814 --> 01:51:17,148 , 3 months 8468 01:51:17,148 --> 01:51:17,515 , and 8469 01:51:17,515 --> 01:51:18,350 we have 8470 01:51:18,350 --> 01:51:18,916 seen a few go a little 8471 01:51:18,916 --> 01:51:19,751 bit further. So 8472 01:51:19,751 --> 01:51:20,551 what this would 8473 01:51:20,551 --> 01:51:20,918 do is allow for the city 8474 01:51:20,918 --> 01:51:22,387 manager 8475 01:51:22,387 --> 01:51:22,521 to then limit 8476 01:51:22,521 --> 01:51:23,121 those 8477 01:51:23,121 --> 01:51:24,589 fees and cap them at 8478 01:51:24,589 --> 01:51:25,189 that 500 8479 01:51:25,189 --> 01:51:25,423 amount if they met 8480 01:51:25,423 --> 01:51:26,457 the 8481 01:51:26,457 --> 01:51:26,924 certain 8482 01:51:26,924 --> 01:51:27,191 provisions of 8483 01:51:27,191 --> 01:51:27,492 the 8484 01:51:27,492 --> 01:51:28,159 temporary 8485 01:51:28,159 --> 01:51:28,760 certificates of occupancy 8486 01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:29,600 as 8487 01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:29,294 far 8488 01:51:29,294 --> 01:51:29,761 as 8489 01:51:29,761 --> 01:51:30,280 continuing 8490 01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:31,960 work 8491 01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:31,629 , working 8492 01:51:31,629 --> 01:51:32,290 in good faith 8493 01:51:32,290 --> 01:51:32,168 to clear any 8494 01:51:32,168 --> 01:51:32,731 of 8495 01:51:32,731 --> 01:51:33,331 those items up 8496 01:51:33,331 --> 01:51:33,765 to 8497 01:51:33,765 --> 01:51:34,399 reach 8498 01:51:34,399 --> 01:51:35,670 that 8499 01:51:35,670 --> 01:51:35,700 certificate of occupancy 8500 01:51:35,700 --> 01:51:36,301 for 8501 01:51:36,301 --> 01:51:36,868 the final 8502 01:51:36,868 --> 01:51:37,970 . A 8503 01:51:37,970 --> 01:51:38,202 maximum of 8504 01:51:38,202 --> 01:51:38,736 $500. 8505 01:51:38,736 --> 01:51:40,638 That, that's it 8506 01:51:40,638 --> 01:51:41,239 . It could be a 8507 01:51:41,239 --> 01:51:42,841 maximum of 500 8508 01:51:42,841 --> 01:51:43,108 , yes, if 8509 01:51:43,108 --> 01:51:43,775 it was 8510 01:51:43,775 --> 01:51:44,142 determined that they were doing 8511 01:51:44,142 --> 01:51:45,109 all of 8512 01:51:45,109 --> 01:51:45,232 the things they need 8513 01:51:45,232 --> 01:51:45,477 to 8514 01:51:45,477 --> 01:51:46,177 do 8515 01:51:46,177 --> 01:51:46,845 , um, just because 8516 01:51:46,845 --> 01:51:47,212 it was 8517 01:51:47,212 --> 01:51:47,913 brought 8518 01:51:47,913 --> 01:51:49,130 up that 8519 01:51:49,130 --> 01:51:49,315 , so I 8520 01:51:49,315 --> 01:51:49,848 , I'm 8521 01:51:49,848 --> 01:51:50,615 , I'm 8522 01:51:50,615 --> 01:51:51,249 a little concerned with 8523 01:51:51,249 --> 01:51:52,160 the, 8524 01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:52,517 the language there. I think 8525 01:51:52,517 --> 01:51:52,751 it's a to 8526 01:51:52,751 --> 01:51:53,918 the 8527 01:51:53,918 --> 01:51:54,252 minimum 8528 01:51:54,252 --> 01:51:56,121 of 8529 01:51:56,121 --> 01:51:56,521 $500. 8530 01:51:56,521 --> 01:51:58,521 The, the 8531 01:51:58,790 --> 01:51:59,124 . So if someone is on 8532 01:51:59,124 --> 01:52:00,525 their 8533 01:52:00,525 --> 01:52:00,759 , their 6 months 8534 01:52:00,759 --> 01:52:01,126 , but 8535 01:52:01,126 --> 01:52:02,961 they're 8536 01:52:02,961 --> 01:52:04,961 making continuous and 8537 01:52:05,563 --> 01:52:05,997 demonstratable progress. They 8538 01:52:05,997 --> 01:52:07,298 could be 8539 01:52:07,298 --> 01:52:07,632 reduced as low 8540 01:52:07,632 --> 01:52:07,745 as 500 8541 01:52:07,745 --> 01:52:08,660 , 8542 01:52:08,660 --> 01:52:09,334 but the 8543 01:52:09,334 --> 01:52:10,168 city manager could 8544 01:52:10,168 --> 01:52:10,435 choose to keep them higher than 8545 01:52:10,435 --> 01:52:12,237 that 8546 01:52:12,237 --> 01:52:12,505 . Well 8547 01:52:12,505 --> 01:52:12,905 , so 8548 01:52:12,905 --> 01:52:14,720 I went 8549 01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:14,739 , you know 8550 01:52:14,739 --> 01:52:14,939 and I'll have to, I'm 8551 01:52:14,939 --> 01:52:15,407 not sure 8552 01:52:15,407 --> 01:52:16,275 if I, if there 8553 01:52:16,275 --> 01:52:16,608 was a 8554 01:52:16,608 --> 01:52:16,975 difference 8555 01:52:16,975 --> 01:52:17,375 between 8556 01:52:17,375 --> 01:52:18,410 the 8557 01:52:18,410 --> 01:52:18,710 summary and 8558 01:52:18,710 --> 01:52:18,910 the 8559 01:52:18,910 --> 01:52:19,511 the 8560 01:52:19,511 --> 01:52:19,744 ordinance itself. I 8561 01:52:19,744 --> 01:52:20,790 don't 8562 01:52:20,790 --> 01:52:21,346 recall 8563 01:52:21,346 --> 01:52:21,680 , but it 8564 01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:22,113 says 8565 01:52:22,113 --> 01:52:22,547 to 8566 01:52:22,547 --> 01:52:23,281 cap 8567 01:52:23,281 --> 01:52:23,916 renewal fees 8568 01:52:23,916 --> 01:52:24,416 at 500 8569 01:52:24,416 --> 01:52:24,983 per month 8570 01:52:24,983 --> 01:52:25,583 . 8571 01:52:25,583 --> 01:52:26,652 So to me, that 8572 01:52:26,652 --> 01:52:27,285 means maximum 8573 01:52:27,285 --> 01:52:27,919 . 8574 01:52:27,919 --> 01:52:28,420 That's that's not 8575 01:52:28,420 --> 01:52:28,920 gonna 8576 01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:29,255 work 8577 01:52:29,255 --> 01:52:29,555 . 8578 01:52:29,555 --> 01:52:30,555 The 8579 01:52:30,555 --> 01:52:30,922 , the actual 8580 01:52:30,922 --> 01:52:31,222 ordinance in 8581 01:52:31,222 --> 01:52:31,890 here 8582 01:52:31,890 --> 01:52:32,424 does 8583 01:52:32,424 --> 01:52:33,525 not 8584 01:52:33,525 --> 01:52:33,992 , but 8585 01:52:33,992 --> 01:52:34,392 it allows 8586 01:52:34,392 --> 01:52:35,126 the city 8587 01:52:35,126 --> 01:52:35,560 manager to cap 8588 01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:35,828 them. 8589 01:52:35,828 --> 01:52:36,595 So 8590 01:52:36,595 --> 01:52:36,895 he grant it 8591 01:52:36,895 --> 01:52:37,563 grants her 8592 01:52:37,563 --> 01:52:39,130 dismiss, ok, but I, but 8593 01:52:39,130 --> 01:52:39,698 less 8594 01:52:39,698 --> 01:52:41,400 than 500 is 8595 01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:41,900 what it, so the 8596 01:52:41,900 --> 01:52:43,368 summary 8597 01:52:43,368 --> 01:52:44,350 just missed, can't 8598 01:52:44,350 --> 01:52:44,336 bring it down 8599 01:52:44,336 --> 01:52:45,337 to 8600 01:52:45,337 --> 01:52:45,737 300 8601 01:52:45,737 --> 01:52:45,871 or 100 8602 01:52:45,871 --> 01:52:46,171 , 8603 01:52:46,171 --> 01:52:46,538 but 8604 01:52:46,538 --> 01:52:46,805 she could say 8605 01:52:46,805 --> 01:52:47,806 , ok 8606 01:52:47,806 --> 01:52:48,240 , no more 8607 01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:48,607 than 500 8608 01:52:48,607 --> 01:52:49,700 this month 8609 01:52:49,700 --> 01:52:49,608 . Per month 8610 01:52:49,608 --> 01:52:49,908 . 8611 01:52:49,908 --> 01:52:50,609 Yeah 8612 01:52:50,609 --> 01:52:51,277 . Right. Correct. Yeah 8613 01:52:51,277 --> 01:52:51,576 , it 8614 01:52:51,576 --> 01:52:52,244 says 8615 01:52:52,244 --> 01:52:52,711 the, the 8616 01:52:52,711 --> 01:52:53,780 , the city 8617 01:52:53,780 --> 01:52:53,545 manager 8618 01:52:53,545 --> 01:52:54,180 has 8619 01:52:54,180 --> 01:52:54,580 discretion to reduce 8620 01:52:54,580 --> 01:52:55,214 the 8621 01:52:55,214 --> 01:52:55,447 tco renewal 8622 01:52:55,447 --> 01:52:55,847 fee 8623 01:52:55,847 --> 01:52:56,782 to 8624 01:52:56,782 --> 01:52:57,249 not 8625 01:52:57,249 --> 01:52:57,849 less 8626 01:52:57,849 --> 01:52:58,950 than 500 8627 01:52:58,950 --> 01:52:59,850 . So that's different 8628 01:52:59,850 --> 01:52:59,318 , 8629 01:52:59,318 --> 01:53:00,452 yeah 8630 01:53:00,452 --> 01:53:00,686 , the ordinances that 8631 01:53:00,686 --> 01:53:01,253 the 8632 01:53:01,253 --> 01:53:01,988 summary was 8633 01:53:01,988 --> 01:53:02,588 . Because the, the 8634 01:53:02,588 --> 01:53:03,155 way it's written now 8635 01:53:03,155 --> 01:53:03,622 , it 8636 01:53:03,622 --> 01:53:04,256 just 8637 01:53:04,256 --> 01:53:04,590 automatically goes up and it 8638 01:53:04,590 --> 01:53:05,957 could 8639 01:53:05,957 --> 01:53:06,425 get into, you know 8640 01:53:06,425 --> 01:53:06,958 , the 8641 01:53:06,958 --> 01:53:07,959 stratosphere and 8642 01:53:07,959 --> 01:53:08,193 the 8643 01:53:08,193 --> 01:53:08,828 city 8644 01:53:08,828 --> 01:53:10,362 manager would be a 8645 01:53:10,362 --> 01:53:11,960 handicapped, 8646 01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:11,218 unable to keep it out of 8647 01:53:11,218 --> 01:53:11,630 the 8648 01:53:11,630 --> 01:53:12,598 stratosphere 8649 01:53:12,598 --> 01:53:12,931 . Is 8650 01:53:12,931 --> 01:53:13,566 this something 8651 01:53:13,566 --> 01:53:14,533 that we're proposing 8652 01:53:14,533 --> 01:53:15,340 for 8653 01:53:15,340 --> 01:53:15,567 moving 8654 01:53:15,567 --> 01:53:16,768 forward, or are we 8655 01:53:16,768 --> 01:53:17,269 trying to 8656 01:53:17,269 --> 01:53:17,703 use this and 8657 01:53:17,703 --> 01:53:17,970 create this to 8658 01:53:17,970 --> 01:53:19,138 help 8659 01:53:19,138 --> 01:53:19,505 someone 8660 01:53:19,505 --> 01:53:20,720 who MAY already be 8661 01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:20,539 in a situation 8662 01:53:20,539 --> 01:53:21,974 at this time 8663 01:53:21,974 --> 01:53:22,541 . I 8664 01:53:22,541 --> 01:53:23,609 really don't have 8665 01:53:23,609 --> 01:53:24,310 a good answer 8666 01:53:24,310 --> 01:53:24,810 for that. This is one that came 8667 01:53:24,810 --> 01:53:25,945 up in a work 8668 01:53:25,945 --> 01:53:26,840 session 8669 01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:26,812 , um, 8670 01:53:26,812 --> 01:53:28,614 because I believe there was a 8671 01:53:28,614 --> 01:53:28,780 complaint about tco 8672 01:53:28,780 --> 01:53:29,515 fees, 8673 01:53:29,515 --> 01:53:30,416 potentially they wanted to 8674 01:53:30,416 --> 01:53:30,949 have 8675 01:53:30,949 --> 01:53:31,317 this. This was 8676 01:53:31,317 --> 01:53:31,884 , this was an 8677 01:53:31,884 --> 01:53:32,751 item that I brought 8678 01:53:32,751 --> 01:53:32,866 forward 8679 01:53:32,866 --> 01:53:33,452 . 8680 01:53:33,452 --> 01:53:33,685 This was there was 8681 01:53:33,685 --> 01:53:33,986 a gentleman 8682 01:53:33,986 --> 01:53:34,853 who 8683 01:53:34,853 --> 01:53:35,153 came and 8684 01:53:35,153 --> 01:53:35,555 spoke 8685 01:53:35,555 --> 01:53:35,821 in his 8686 01:53:35,821 --> 01:53:37,556 3 8687 01:53:37,556 --> 01:53:38,290 minutes 8688 01:53:38,290 --> 01:53:38,557 , uh, uh, describing 8689 01:53:38,557 --> 01:53:38,925 this 8690 01:53:38,925 --> 01:53:40,359 issue 8691 01:53:40,359 --> 01:53:40,693 , uh, and so yes, 8692 01:53:40,693 --> 01:53:40,926 there 8693 01:53:40,926 --> 01:53:41,326 MAY 8694 01:53:41,326 --> 01:53:42,528 be a 8695 01:53:42,528 --> 01:53:42,861 , an active 8696 01:53:42,861 --> 01:53:43,629 case 8697 01:53:43,629 --> 01:53:44,696 where this would 8698 01:53:44,696 --> 01:53:45,264 be 8699 01:53:45,264 --> 01:53:45,430 applicable 8700 01:53:45,430 --> 01:53:45,831 , 8701 01:53:45,831 --> 01:53:46,165 but this 8702 01:53:46,165 --> 01:53:46,498 does give 8703 01:53:46,498 --> 01:53:47,132 the 8704 01:53:47,132 --> 01:53:47,433 authority 8705 01:53:47,433 --> 01:53:49,433 to 8706 01:53:49,668 --> 01:53:49,802 adjudicate that 8707 01:53:49,802 --> 01:53:50,169 . 8708 01:53:50,169 --> 01:53:50,502 So would 8709 01:53:50,502 --> 01:53:51,670 that 8710 01:53:51,670 --> 01:53:51,870 be retroactive 8711 01:53:51,870 --> 01:53:52,205 to 8712 01:53:52,205 --> 01:53:52,771 prior 8713 01:53:52,771 --> 01:53:53,405 months or from now 8714 01:53:53,405 --> 01:53:53,806 going 8715 01:53:53,806 --> 01:53:54,373 forward 8716 01:53:54,373 --> 01:53:55,700 ? You're being, yeah 8717 01:53:55,700 --> 01:53:55,440 , it 8718 01:53:55,440 --> 01:53:55,875 wouldn't be 8719 01:53:55,875 --> 01:53:56,375 grandfather. And 8720 01:53:56,375 --> 01:53:57,877 then I just had 8721 01:53:57,877 --> 01:53:58,143 , um, just a 8722 01:53:58,143 --> 01:53:58,264 , a 8723 01:53:58,264 --> 01:53:59,450 , 8724 01:53:59,450 --> 01:54:00,379 a gut check here. I didn't have 8725 01:54:00,379 --> 01:54:00,713 the chance to look it up 8726 01:54:00,713 --> 01:54:01,130 , but 8727 01:54:01,130 --> 01:54:02,114 how 8728 01:54:02,114 --> 01:54:03,449 does this 8729 01:54:03,449 --> 01:54:04,149 , um, uh, this 8730 01:54:04,149 --> 01:54:04,416 cap 8731 01:54:04,416 --> 01:54:04,950 or 8732 01:54:04,950 --> 01:54:05,385 not cap, but the 8733 01:54:05,385 --> 01:54:06,852 minimum 8734 01:54:06,852 --> 01:54:07,353 of 8735 01:54:07,353 --> 01:54:08,200 500 8736 01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:08,320 compared to what our 8737 01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:08,620 fees 8738 01:54:08,620 --> 01:54:09,321 were 8739 01:54:09,321 --> 01:54:09,989 before 8740 01:54:09,989 --> 01:54:11,957 we changed them 8741 01:54:11,957 --> 01:54:12,625 . So 8742 01:54:12,625 --> 01:54:13,392 before they were changed 8743 01:54:13,392 --> 01:54:13,826 , so 8744 01:54:13,826 --> 01:54:14,327 when the tco 8745 01:54:14,327 --> 01:54:16,128 fees were changed 8746 01:54:16,128 --> 01:54:16,929 last summer during the budget 8747 01:54:16,929 --> 01:54:18,631 process. Prior to that, it was 8748 01:54:18,631 --> 01:54:19,310 the 8749 01:54:19,310 --> 01:54:20,166 100,250, 500 8750 01:54:20,166 --> 01:54:20,466 , and then it 8751 01:54:20,466 --> 01:54:21,300 was 8752 01:54:21,300 --> 01:54:22,368 continually 500. Um 8753 01:54:22,368 --> 01:54:23,680 , 8754 01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:23,569 unfortunately, what staff was 8755 01:54:23,569 --> 01:54:24,360 seeing at that 8756 01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:24,905 point was that 8757 01:54:24,905 --> 01:54:25,205 we had 8758 01:54:25,205 --> 01:54:25,505 a lot 8759 01:54:25,505 --> 01:54:25,905 of 8760 01:54:25,905 --> 01:54:26,338 temporary 8761 01:54:26,338 --> 01:54:27,406 certificates 8762 01:54:27,406 --> 01:54:27,707 of occupancy 8763 01:54:27,707 --> 01:54:28,407 , just 8764 01:54:28,407 --> 01:54:29,442 staying on a 8765 01:54:29,442 --> 01:54:30,109 temporary 8766 01:54:30,109 --> 01:54:30,342 certificate of occupancy 8767 01:54:30,342 --> 01:54:30,877 and 8768 01:54:30,877 --> 01:54:31,477 never 8769 01:54:31,477 --> 01:54:32,211 reaching completion. So 8770 01:54:32,211 --> 01:54:32,479 what we were trying to do 8771 01:54:32,479 --> 01:54:33,120 at 8772 01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:33,679 that 8773 01:54:33,679 --> 01:54:34,213 point 8774 01:54:34,213 --> 01:54:34,580 was to get 8775 01:54:34,580 --> 01:54:35,648 a little 8776 01:54:35,648 --> 01:54:36,682 bit more 8777 01:54:36,682 --> 01:54:36,982 of incentive 8778 01:54:36,982 --> 01:54:37,583 because 8779 01:54:37,583 --> 01:54:38,830 typically you do 8780 01:54:38,830 --> 01:54:38,385 see them 8781 01:54:38,385 --> 01:54:39,510 , 8782 01:54:39,510 --> 01:54:39,619 they're going to be 8783 01:54:39,619 --> 01:54:39,919 resolving 8784 01:54:39,919 --> 01:54:40,219 the 8785 01:54:40,219 --> 01:54:41,387 , um, 60 8786 01:54:41,387 --> 01:54:42,254 , 90 days 8787 01:54:42,254 --> 01:54:42,955 . Like yeah 8788 01:54:42,955 --> 01:54:44,955 500 with no 8789 01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:45,825 progress versus 8790 01:54:45,825 --> 01:54:47,593 disallowing them yeah they're 8791 01:54:47,593 --> 01:54:47,960 making progress. So this this 8792 01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:48,327 is very 8793 01:54:48,327 --> 01:54:49,429 , it defines 8794 01:54:49,429 --> 01:54:49,595 the 8795 01:54:49,595 --> 01:54:50,196 the 8796 01:54:50,196 --> 01:54:50,663 different levels and the 8797 01:54:50,663 --> 01:54:51,865 criteria that 8798 01:54:51,865 --> 01:54:52,365 you have to do 8799 01:54:52,365 --> 01:54:52,799 . 8800 01:54:52,799 --> 01:54:54,166 So basically 8801 01:54:54,166 --> 01:54:54,467 this 8802 01:54:54,467 --> 01:54:54,800 is 8803 01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:55,301 giving 8804 01:54:55,301 --> 01:54:55,568 discretion to go 8805 01:54:55,568 --> 01:54:56,335 back 8806 01:54:56,335 --> 01:54:56,669 to 8807 01:54:56,669 --> 01:54:57,169 that 8808 01:54:57,169 --> 01:54:58,538 previous 8809 01:54:58,538 --> 01:54:59,500 fee level 8810 01:54:59,500 --> 01:54:59,338 if they meet 8811 01:54:59,338 --> 01:55:00,390 the 8812 01:55:00,390 --> 01:55:01,340 certain 8813 01:55:01,340 --> 01:55:01,540 criteria. Yes 8814 01:55:01,540 --> 01:55:01,841 , but, 8815 01:55:01,841 --> 01:55:02,175 but 8816 01:55:02,175 --> 01:55:02,508 , but the 8817 01:55:02,508 --> 01:55:03,900 , but the 8818 01:55:03,900 --> 01:55:03,342 other 8819 01:55:03,342 --> 01:55:03,576 piece 8820 01:55:03,576 --> 01:55:04,430 of 8821 01:55:04,430 --> 01:55:04,343 that 8822 01:55:04,343 --> 01:55:06,279 is that 8823 01:55:06,279 --> 01:55:06,712 um they'd 8824 01:55:06,712 --> 01:55:07,780 some people 8825 01:55:07,780 --> 01:55:08,215 would rather pay 8826 01:55:08,215 --> 01:55:08,481 out your 8827 01:55:08,481 --> 01:55:08,748 little 8828 01:55:08,748 --> 01:55:10,517 $500 8829 01:55:10,517 --> 01:55:11,651 and 8830 01:55:11,651 --> 01:55:12,351 uh so, 8831 01:55:12,351 --> 01:55:12,652 so. Well, then I'll keep double 8832 01:55:12,652 --> 01:55:14,320 But 8833 01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:14,787 the, the 8834 01:55:14,787 --> 01:55:15,121 , the city 8835 01:55:15,121 --> 01:55:16,356 manager 8836 01:55:16,356 --> 01:55:16,923 has 8837 01:55:16,923 --> 01:55:17,156 discretion to grant 8838 01:55:17,156 --> 01:55:17,490 or not 8839 01:55:17,490 --> 01:55:18,891 grant 8840 01:55:18,891 --> 01:55:19,659 that way. So this gives 8841 01:55:19,659 --> 01:55:20,590 her the ability to stop it. 8842 01:55:20,590 --> 01:55:21,528 Yeah, much 8843 01:55:21,528 --> 01:55:22,195 , much like. How 8844 01:55:22,195 --> 01:55:23,596 about they just fix it 8845 01:55:23,596 --> 01:55:24,130 ? You 8846 01:55:24,130 --> 01:55:25,331 know what I mean 8847 01:55:25,331 --> 01:55:25,531 they 8848 01:55:25,531 --> 01:55:25,965 , they 8849 01:55:25,965 --> 01:55:26,533 have to be 8850 01:55:26,533 --> 01:55:28,267 showing progress 8851 01:55:28,267 --> 01:55:28,401 towards fixing it. Got you 8852 01:55:28,401 --> 01:55:28,735 . 8853 01:55:28,735 --> 01:55:30,236 That's 8854 01:55:30,236 --> 01:55:30,770 the, that's cool. And we 8855 01:55:30,770 --> 01:55:32,138 do identify 8856 01:55:32,138 --> 01:55:32,371 what 8857 01:55:32,371 --> 01:55:32,672 is 8858 01:55:32,672 --> 01:55:33,306 substantial 8859 01:55:33,306 --> 01:55:33,640 If you want to give us some 8860 01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:34,574 examples 8861 01:55:34,574 --> 01:55:34,907 of 8862 01:55:34,907 --> 01:55:35,308 that 8863 01:55:35,308 --> 01:55:35,608 just briefly 8864 01:55:35,608 --> 01:55:35,875 . 8865 01:55:35,875 --> 01:55:37,210 Um 8866 01:55:37,210 --> 01:55:37,810 , so right now we do have a 8867 01:55:37,810 --> 01:55:39,179 few different 8868 01:55:39,179 --> 01:55:39,879 types of 8869 01:55:39,879 --> 01:55:40,546 temporary certificates of 8870 01:55:40,546 --> 01:55:41,381 occupancy, so you have 8871 01:55:41,381 --> 01:55:42,148 fixtures 8872 01:55:42,148 --> 01:55:42,262 furniture, and equipment 8873 01:55:42,262 --> 01:55:42,782 , so 8874 01:55:42,782 --> 01:55:43,750 that's really 8875 01:55:43,750 --> 01:55:44,250 just 8876 01:55:44,250 --> 01:55:44,417 moving 8877 01:55:44,417 --> 01:55:45,151 um 8878 01:55:45,151 --> 01:55:45,618 things and it's not open to 8879 01:55:45,618 --> 01:55:46,219 the 8880 01:55:46,219 --> 01:55:46,619 public or 8881 01:55:46,619 --> 01:55:46,786 staff, then 8882 01:55:46,786 --> 01:55:47,530 you get 8883 01:55:47,530 --> 01:55:47,553 to 8884 01:55:47,553 --> 01:55:47,955 the next step where 8885 01:55:47,955 --> 01:55:48,621 if you 8886 01:55:48,621 --> 01:55:48,989 need, you already 8887 01:55:48,989 --> 01:55:49,756 have those 8888 01:55:49,756 --> 01:55:50,590 items in, then you would 8889 01:55:50,590 --> 01:55:51,240 get to 8890 01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:51,391 be 8891 01:55:51,391 --> 01:55:52,250 able 8892 01:55:52,250 --> 01:55:52,792 to have staff 8893 01:55:52,792 --> 01:55:53,426 in there 8894 01:55:53,426 --> 01:55:53,827 for training 8895 01:55:53,827 --> 01:55:54,930 , but you're 8896 01:55:54,930 --> 01:55:54,494 really 8897 01:55:54,494 --> 01:55:55,161 looking at 8898 01:55:55,161 --> 01:55:55,595 that 8899 01:55:55,595 --> 01:55:55,995 substantial 8900 01:55:55,995 --> 01:55:56,763 completion 8901 01:55:56,763 --> 01:55:56,963 . Um, some of 8902 01:55:56,963 --> 01:55:57,230 the 8903 01:55:57,230 --> 01:55:57,697 ones 8904 01:55:57,697 --> 01:55:58,165 that I 8905 01:55:58,165 --> 01:55:58,731 , the 8906 01:55:58,731 --> 01:55:59,532 main one that 8907 01:55:59,532 --> 01:55:59,832 I know of that actually 8908 01:55:59,832 --> 01:56:00,333 stayed 8909 01:56:00,333 --> 01:56:00,700 on tco for quite 8910 01:56:00,700 --> 01:56:01,468 some time 8911 01:56:01,468 --> 01:56:02,135 , was 8912 01:56:02,135 --> 01:56:02,602 um the heb, but it's because 8913 01:56:02,602 --> 01:56:03,736 they installed 8914 01:56:03,736 --> 01:56:04,337 the 8915 01:56:04,337 --> 01:56:04,571 wrong 8916 01:56:04,571 --> 01:56:05,710 size 8917 01:56:05,710 --> 01:56:05,972 wastewater line 8918 01:56:05,972 --> 01:56:06,740 . Um, so that 8919 01:56:06,740 --> 01:56:06,940 one the store was able to 8920 01:56:06,940 --> 01:56:07,273 be 8921 01:56:07,273 --> 01:56:08,308 open 8922 01:56:08,308 --> 01:56:08,642 , um, but 8923 01:56:08,642 --> 01:56:08,875 they did 8924 01:56:08,875 --> 01:56:09,142 have 8925 01:56:09,142 --> 01:56:10,878 a 8926 01:56:10,878 --> 01:56:11,411 longer tco time. It smelled a 8927 01:56:11,411 --> 01:56:11,879 little funny for a 8928 01:56:11,879 --> 01:56:13,347 while 8929 01:56:13,347 --> 01:56:13,459 . Yeah 8930 01:56:13,459 --> 01:56:13,947 . 8931 01:56:13,947 --> 01:56:14,981 Uh, but certainly 8932 01:56:14,981 --> 01:56:15,515 it's really 8933 01:56:15,515 --> 01:56:16,150 once you're a substantial 8934 01:56:16,150 --> 01:56:17,283 completion, all 8935 01:56:17,283 --> 01:56:17,951 of their life 8936 01:56:17,951 --> 01:56:19,686 safety is complete 8937 01:56:19,686 --> 01:56:20,186 . That's when 8938 01:56:20,186 --> 01:56:20,653 Robert and his 8939 01:56:20,653 --> 01:56:22,288 team typically 8940 01:56:22,288 --> 01:56:22,856 look at starting to look at, 8941 01:56:22,856 --> 01:56:24,900 did you finish out 8942 01:56:24,900 --> 01:56:24,457 with 8943 01:56:24,457 --> 01:56:25,458 the 8944 01:56:25,458 --> 01:56:26,159 fire marshal needs? Are we at 8945 01:56:26,159 --> 01:56:27,930 a 8946 01:56:27,930 --> 01:56:27,229 substantial confl point 8947 01:56:27,229 --> 01:56:27,727 where 8948 01:56:27,727 --> 01:56:28,629 it's safe to be 8949 01:56:28,629 --> 01:56:28,928 in there 8950 01:56:28,928 --> 01:56:29,796 . And 8951 01:56:29,796 --> 01:56:30,463 certainly if there's going to 8952 01:56:30,463 --> 01:56:30,830 be something, I know of 8953 01:56:30,830 --> 01:56:31,398 one 8954 01:56:31,398 --> 01:56:31,865 that we have right 8955 01:56:31,865 --> 01:56:32,232 now, where 8956 01:56:32,232 --> 01:56:33,330 the 8957 01:56:33,330 --> 01:56:33,466 roof mounted equipment, 8958 01:56:33,466 --> 01:56:35,466 something was 8959 01:56:35,903 --> 01:56:36,202 the 8960 01:56:36,202 --> 01:56:36,369 roof 8961 01:56:36,369 --> 01:56:36,736 mounted 8962 01:56:36,736 --> 01:56:37,570 equipment 8963 01:56:37,570 --> 01:56:37,737 is not yet 8964 01:56:37,737 --> 01:56:38,104 fully 8965 01:56:38,104 --> 01:56:39,906 shielded 8966 01:56:39,906 --> 01:56:40,507 , um, but that should 8967 01:56:40,507 --> 01:56:41,700 be resolved. Typically that 8968 01:56:41,700 --> 01:56:41,975 resolved in 30 8969 01:56:41,975 --> 01:56:42,342 to 8970 01:56:42,342 --> 01:56:44,342 45 days 8971 01:56:44,411 --> 01:56:44,555 . So 8972 01:56:44,555 --> 01:56:44,945 . 8973 01:56:44,945 --> 01:56:45,345 It's not, you 8974 01:56:45,345 --> 01:56:46,379 could easily 8975 01:56:46,379 --> 01:56:47,480 see 8976 01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:47,247 a situation where 8977 01:56:47,247 --> 01:56:49,490 you 8978 01:56:49,490 --> 01:56:49,582 know, 8979 01:56:49,582 --> 01:56:50,851 like just like in 8980 01:56:50,851 --> 01:56:51,218 covid 8981 01:56:51,218 --> 01:56:51,718 , 8982 01:56:51,718 --> 01:56:53,186 there's this 8983 01:56:53,186 --> 01:56:53,887 uh supply 8984 01:56:53,887 --> 01:56:54,421 disruptions, and they just 8985 01:56:54,421 --> 01:56:55,622 can't finish. They 8986 01:56:55,622 --> 01:56:56,189 can't get 8987 01:56:56,189 --> 01:56:57,791 the last pieces 8988 01:56:57,791 --> 01:56:58,525 . But they're 8989 01:56:58,525 --> 01:56:58,992 doing everything they can. We 8990 01:56:58,992 --> 01:57:00,930 don't want 8991 01:57:00,930 --> 01:57:00,660 to 8992 01:57:00,660 --> 01:57:02,660 be charging them 8993 01:57:02,863 --> 01:57:03,196 $20,000.01 month, 40,000 the 8994 01:57:03,196 --> 01:57:04,798 next 8995 01:57:04,798 --> 01:57:05,532 month when they really are 8996 01:57:05,532 --> 01:57:06,633 doing everything 8997 01:57:06,633 --> 01:57:06,833 that 8998 01:57:06,833 --> 01:57:07,100 they can 8999 01:57:07,100 --> 01:57:07,901 to 9000 01:57:07,901 --> 01:57:09,302 , to finish and comply with 9001 01:57:09,302 --> 01:57:09,569 . 9002 01:57:09,569 --> 01:57:09,903 That 9003 01:57:09,903 --> 01:57:11,371 . So 9004 01:57:11,371 --> 01:57:12,172 the city manager will 9005 01:57:12,172 --> 01:57:13,975 be able to, to look at that 9006 01:57:13,975 --> 01:57:14,441 . 9007 01:57:14,441 --> 01:57:15,642 With the, the 9008 01:57:15,642 --> 01:57:16,410 building 9009 01:57:16,410 --> 01:57:17,430 officials and and make those 9010 01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:17,878 determinations. And 9011 01:57:17,878 --> 01:57:18,179 I think 9012 01:57:18,179 --> 01:57:18,579 that 9013 01:57:18,579 --> 01:57:18,979 good to 9014 01:57:18,979 --> 01:57:20,313 have that 9015 01:57:20,313 --> 01:57:20,948 , that 9016 01:57:20,948 --> 01:57:22,516 flexibility. Now 9017 01:57:22,516 --> 01:57:23,250 , counsel, any 9018 01:57:23,250 --> 01:57:24,718 other questions on the side 9019 01:57:24,718 --> 01:57:25,118 ? 9020 01:57:25,118 --> 01:57:25,519 This is a 9021 01:57:25,519 --> 01:57:26,153 public hearing. Is 9022 01:57:26,153 --> 01:57:26,520 there anyone from the public 9023 01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:27,120 wishing 9024 01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:29,120 to make comment 9025 01:57:31,825 --> 01:57:32,592 ? Yeah, 9026 01:57:32,592 --> 01:57:34,728 if you want to come forward. Ok 9027 01:57:34,728 --> 01:57:36,728 ok 9028 01:57:38,432 --> 01:57:38,899 Now 9029 01:57:38,899 --> 01:57:39,233 MS. Brewer, if 9030 01:57:39,233 --> 01:57:40,867 you'd 9031 01:57:40,867 --> 01:57:41,101 introduce yourself 9032 01:57:41,101 --> 01:57:41,301 . Ok 9033 01:57:41,301 --> 01:57:41,735 . No, I 9034 01:57:41,735 --> 01:57:42,703 just have a 9035 01:57:42,703 --> 01:57:43,690 quick 9036 01:57:43,690 --> 01:57:43,971 question. How 9037 01:57:43,971 --> 01:57:45,906 does this impact and affect 9038 01:57:45,906 --> 01:57:47,475 small businesses. When it comes 9039 01:57:47,475 --> 01:57:48,108 to 9040 01:57:48,108 --> 01:57:49,676 the fee changing 9041 01:57:49,676 --> 01:57:50,277 . So it 9042 01:57:50,277 --> 01:57:50,545 would allow those 9043 01:57:50,545 --> 01:57:50,911 small 9044 01:57:50,911 --> 01:57:51,745 businesses 9045 01:57:51,745 --> 01:57:52,450 if 9046 01:57:52,450 --> 01:57:52,312 they 9047 01:57:52,312 --> 01:57:52,612 were 9048 01:57:52,612 --> 01:57:54,114 making 9049 01:57:54,114 --> 01:57:54,481 substantial 9050 01:57:54,481 --> 01:57:54,782 progress 9051 01:57:54,782 --> 01:57:55,182 and having 9052 01:57:55,182 --> 01:57:56,917 to extend 9053 01:57:56,917 --> 01:57:59,317 their tco that would 9054 01:57:59,387 --> 01:58:00,687 not induce the 9055 01:58:00,687 --> 01:58:01,488 uh the doubling 9056 01:58:01,488 --> 01:58:01,755 of the tco fee. I'd say 9057 01:58:01,755 --> 01:58:02,189 the 9058 01:58:02,189 --> 01:58:04,910 intent is 9059 01:58:04,910 --> 01:58:04,425 pretty specifically 9060 01:58:04,425 --> 01:58:05,859 to help 9061 01:58:05,859 --> 01:58:06,226 small businesses in 9062 01:58:06,226 --> 01:58:08,290 particular 9063 01:58:08,290 --> 01:58:08,596 . And the small 9064 01:58:08,596 --> 01:58:09,697 businesses are aware 9065 01:58:09,697 --> 01:58:10,365 that 9066 01:58:10,365 --> 01:58:10,631 that's written in policy 9067 01:58:10,631 --> 01:58:12,631 , that 9068 01:58:12,633 --> 01:58:13,133 this particular process or 9069 01:58:13,133 --> 01:58:14,368 procedure or 9070 01:58:14,368 --> 01:58:14,868 of this 9071 01:58:14,868 --> 01:58:15,202 policy of 9072 01:58:15,202 --> 01:58:17,380 small 9073 01:58:17,380 --> 01:58:17,738 businesses would, if 9074 01:58:17,738 --> 01:58:19,720 they're under construction 9075 01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:21,720 would currently be 9076 01:58:21,475 --> 01:58:23,475 receiving uh 9077 01:58:23,978 --> 01:58:24,378 the higher fee for 9078 01:58:24,378 --> 01:58:25,312 their cto 9079 01:58:25,312 --> 01:58:25,712 . 9080 01:58:25,712 --> 01:58:26,113 What if it 9081 01:58:26,113 --> 01:58:26,581 isn't construction, 9082 01:58:26,581 --> 01:58:28,820 what if it's 9083 01:58:28,820 --> 01:58:28,716 land? What if it's 9084 01:58:28,716 --> 01:58:30,170 property? What, what if 9085 01:58:30,170 --> 01:58:31,185 it's a 9086 01:58:31,185 --> 01:58:32,352 small business that 9087 01:58:32,352 --> 01:58:32,853 is 9088 01:58:32,853 --> 01:58:33,187 um 9089 01:58:33,187 --> 01:58:33,787 renting 9090 01:58:33,787 --> 01:58:34,555 that business 9091 01:58:34,555 --> 01:58:35,389 on 9092 01:58:35,389 --> 01:58:35,589 someone else's land 9093 01:58:35,589 --> 01:58:35,856 . So what 9094 01:58:35,856 --> 01:58:37,391 are 9095 01:58:37,391 --> 01:58:37,792 the responsibilities there, 9096 01:58:37,792 --> 01:58:38,325 is that 9097 01:58:38,325 --> 01:58:38,926 also written out 9098 01:58:38,926 --> 01:58:39,493 in 9099 01:58:39,493 --> 01:58:40,195 policy when it 9100 01:58:40,195 --> 01:58:40,661 comes to 9101 01:58:40,661 --> 01:58:41,629 temporary 9102 01:58:41,629 --> 01:58:42,290 certificates of 9103 01:58:42,290 --> 01:58:44,290 occupancy 9104 01:58:44,198 --> 01:58:44,398 . That's 9105 01:58:44,398 --> 01:58:45,867 a 9106 01:58:45,867 --> 01:58:46,533 really 9107 01:58:46,533 --> 01:58:46,900 interesting question, right? If 9108 01:58:46,900 --> 01:58:48,102 the, if 9109 01:58:48,102 --> 01:58:48,369 , if the 9110 01:58:48,369 --> 01:58:48,669 , you 9111 01:58:48,669 --> 01:58:49,136 , you're, 9112 01:58:49,136 --> 01:58:50,237 you're renting 9113 01:58:50,237 --> 01:58:50,971 and you're, 9114 01:58:50,971 --> 01:58:51,338 you're trying to do finish out 9115 01:58:51,338 --> 01:58:52,940 and the 9116 01:58:52,940 --> 01:58:53,475 the 9117 01:58:53,475 --> 01:58:53,585 landlord is, is 9118 01:58:53,585 --> 01:58:53,941 the 9119 01:58:53,941 --> 01:58:55,941 obstacle 9120 01:58:57,780 --> 01:58:57,611 . Who then is 9121 01:58:57,611 --> 01:58:57,845 responsible 9122 01:58:57,845 --> 01:58:59,213 for 9123 01:58:59,213 --> 01:58:59,447 the a 9124 01:58:59,447 --> 01:58:59,947 landlord 9125 01:58:59,947 --> 01:59:00,215 be an obstacle 9126 01:59:00,215 --> 01:59:01,549 ? Oh 9127 01:59:01,549 --> 01:59:01,816 yeah 9128 01:59:01,816 --> 01:59:03,485 , yeah 9129 01:59:03,485 --> 01:59:03,885 , 9130 01:59:03,885 --> 01:59:04,585 absolutely 9131 01:59:04,585 --> 01:59:04,985 they can because 9132 01:59:04,985 --> 01:59:06,253 there's 9133 01:59:06,253 --> 01:59:06,654 some requirements that 9134 01:59:06,654 --> 01:59:07,255 the city 9135 01:59:07,255 --> 01:59:08,356 has 9136 01:59:08,356 --> 01:59:09,230 for 9137 01:59:09,230 --> 01:59:09,424 the landowners 9138 01:59:09,424 --> 01:59:11,125 right 9139 01:59:11,125 --> 01:59:11,559 ? And I just wanted to 9140 01:59:11,559 --> 01:59:13,327 know if those 9141 01:59:13,327 --> 01:59:13,761 were distinctual 9142 01:59:13,761 --> 01:59:14,328 between the 9143 01:59:14,328 --> 01:59:15,497 responsibilities of 9144 01:59:15,497 --> 01:59:15,997 the landowners, and I would 9145 01:59:15,997 --> 01:59:17,231 imagine that's 9146 01:59:17,231 --> 01:59:17,431 part 9147 01:59:17,431 --> 01:59:17,798 of 9148 01:59:17,798 --> 01:59:18,866 the city 9149 01:59:18,866 --> 01:59:19,333 manager's discretion, right 9150 01:59:19,333 --> 01:59:19,867 ? 9151 01:59:19,867 --> 01:59:20,235 Because I also 9152 01:59:20,235 --> 01:59:20,935 don't know that 9153 01:59:20,935 --> 01:59:21,936 it's appropriate for the city 9154 01:59:21,936 --> 01:59:22,503 to 9155 01:59:22,503 --> 01:59:22,870 backstop just because you 9156 01:59:22,870 --> 01:59:23,437 have a 9157 01:59:23,437 --> 01:59:24,772 bad landlord 9158 01:59:24,772 --> 01:59:26,707 . I mean 9159 01:59:26,707 --> 01:59:27,341 . I 9160 01:59:27,341 --> 01:59:28,876 think it should be 9161 01:59:28,876 --> 01:59:29,443 clear 9162 01:59:29,443 --> 01:59:29,810 . 9163 01:59:29,810 --> 01:59:30,945 That's a 9164 01:59:30,945 --> 01:59:31,780 , that's a good 9165 01:59:31,780 --> 01:59:33,810 question. It is 9166 01:59:33,810 --> 01:59:33,781 , it is clear 9167 01:59:33,781 --> 01:59:34,150 and I think that, yeah 9168 01:59:34,150 --> 01:59:34,315 , that's 9169 01:59:34,315 --> 01:59:35,550 what 9170 01:59:35,550 --> 01:59:35,883 we 9171 01:59:35,883 --> 01:59:36,150 need 9172 01:59:36,150 --> 01:59:36,651 to 9173 01:59:36,651 --> 01:59:38,520 applying for. I 9174 01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:38,319 I don't think that 9175 01:59:38,319 --> 01:59:38,486 that 9176 01:59:38,486 --> 01:59:38,886 changes 9177 01:59:38,886 --> 01:59:39,787 whether or 9178 01:59:39,787 --> 01:59:40,121 not wet 9179 01:59:40,121 --> 01:59:40,922 to the 9180 01:59:40,922 --> 01:59:41,322 I 9181 01:59:41,322 --> 01:59:42,523 can't I do 9182 01:59:42,523 --> 01:59:43,125 think that's a 9183 01:59:43,125 --> 01:59:43,524 question we need to 9184 01:59:43,524 --> 01:59:44,226 , we need 9185 01:59:44,226 --> 01:59:44,792 to 9186 01:59:44,792 --> 01:59:45,493 address 9187 01:59:45,493 --> 01:59:45,626 . That's not 9188 01:59:45,626 --> 01:59:46,227 a 9189 01:59:46,227 --> 01:59:48,627 hypothetical that I had 9190 01:59:48,663 --> 01:59:49,330 I 9191 01:59:49,330 --> 01:59:49,630 considered before, but 9192 01:59:49,630 --> 01:59:50,731 so the 9193 01:59:50,731 --> 01:59:51,365 , 9194 01:59:51,365 --> 01:59:51,633 the scenarios, I'm sorry 9195 01:59:51,633 --> 01:59:52,200 , the 9196 01:59:52,200 --> 01:59:53,335 scenarios in which 9197 01:59:53,335 --> 01:59:53,901 the city 9198 01:59:53,901 --> 01:59:54,336 manager has 9199 01:59:54,336 --> 01:59:54,802 discretion or 9200 01:59:54,802 --> 01:59:55,703 documented in 9201 01:59:55,703 --> 01:59:56,370 the the 9202 01:59:56,370 --> 01:59:56,771 ordinance 9203 01:59:56,771 --> 01:59:57,772 correct? It would be 9204 01:59:57,772 --> 01:59:57,972 , and 9205 01:59:57,972 --> 01:59:58,807 then 9206 01:59:58,807 --> 01:59:59,373 for anybody that would end up 9207 01:59:59,373 --> 02:00:00,609 having a separate 9208 02:00:00,609 --> 02:00:01,109 property 9209 02:00:01,109 --> 02:00:02,277 owner, let's say 9210 02:00:02,277 --> 02:00:02,978 that it's a 9211 02:00:02,978 --> 02:00:03,444 full site plan. You've got to 9212 02:00:03,444 --> 02:00:04,479 finish out of 9213 02:00:04,479 --> 02:00:05,279 an overall 9214 02:00:05,279 --> 02:00:05,614 building you have individual 9215 02:00:05,614 --> 02:00:07,282 shelves 9216 02:00:07,282 --> 02:00:07,882 . Typically, you're not 9217 02:00:07,882 --> 02:00:08,216 going to be getting to the 9218 02:00:08,216 --> 02:00:09,217 point 9219 02:00:09,217 --> 02:00:09,685 where you would be 9220 02:00:09,685 --> 02:00:09,917 eligible 9221 02:00:09,917 --> 02:00:10,118 for 9222 02:00:10,118 --> 02:00:11,586 tco 9223 02:00:11,586 --> 02:00:11,819 without 9224 02:00:11,819 --> 02:00:12,721 the 9225 02:00:12,721 --> 02:00:13,221 landowner also completing their 9226 02:00:13,221 --> 02:00:13,588 items. So if you 9227 02:00:13,588 --> 02:00:13,922 have a 9228 02:00:13,922 --> 02:00:14,522 sidewalk 9229 02:00:14,522 --> 02:00:14,823 , that's federal. We 9230 02:00:14,823 --> 02:00:15,123 need 9231 02:00:15,123 --> 02:00:16,524 to be 9232 02:00:16,524 --> 02:00:16,758 , um, adhering 9233 02:00:16,758 --> 02:00:17,580 to 9234 02:00:17,580 --> 02:00:17,492 our 9235 02:00:17,492 --> 02:00:18,493 federal rules 9236 02:00:18,493 --> 02:00:18,893 for 9237 02:00:18,893 --> 02:00:19,260 ada 9238 02:00:19,260 --> 02:00:19,727 . So there 9239 02:00:19,727 --> 02:00:20,796 would be 9240 02:00:20,796 --> 02:00:21,329 things like that if 9241 02:00:21,329 --> 02:00:21,930 someone needed 9242 02:00:21,930 --> 02:00:22,700 to open it 9243 02:00:22,700 --> 02:00:22,297 , then 9244 02:00:22,297 --> 02:00:23,131 we 9245 02:00:23,131 --> 02:00:23,799 could present that 9246 02:00:23,799 --> 02:00:24,332 and say 9247 02:00:24,332 --> 02:00:25,133 the 9248 02:00:25,133 --> 02:00:25,466 building itself 9249 02:00:25,466 --> 02:00:26,135 is safe 9250 02:00:26,135 --> 02:00:26,935 , 9251 02:00:26,935 --> 02:00:27,402 this one user would like to 9252 02:00:27,402 --> 02:00:27,702 be 9253 02:00:27,702 --> 02:00:28,102 open 9254 02:00:28,102 --> 02:00:28,736 on tco 9255 02:00:28,736 --> 02:00:28,937 . How would we 9256 02:00:28,937 --> 02:00:29,170 like 9257 02:00:29,170 --> 02:00:29,771 to 9258 02:00:29,771 --> 02:00:29,938 proceed with that 9259 02:00:29,938 --> 02:00:30,238 ? So I 9260 02:00:30,238 --> 02:00:30,839 think 9261 02:00:30,839 --> 02:00:31,539 it is covered 9262 02:00:31,539 --> 02:00:31,806 in here 9263 02:00:31,806 --> 02:00:32,507 , um 9264 02:00:32,507 --> 02:00:32,640 just because it would 9265 02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:33,107 still 9266 02:00:33,107 --> 02:00:33,842 pertain back 9267 02:00:33,842 --> 02:00:34,109 to 9268 02:00:34,109 --> 02:00:34,843 the overall 9269 02:00:34,843 --> 02:00:36,277 construction of the site. But 9270 02:00:36,277 --> 02:00:36,611 then that 9271 02:00:36,611 --> 02:00:37,212 individual owner 9272 02:00:37,212 --> 02:00:38,380 would be bound by 9273 02:00:38,380 --> 02:00:39,113 the tco. They 9274 02:00:39,113 --> 02:00:39,514 wouldn't be able to receive a 9275 02:00:39,514 --> 02:00:41,820 co 9276 02:00:41,820 --> 02:00:42,917 until the overall 9277 02:00:42,917 --> 02:00:43,551 . Uh 9278 02:00:43,551 --> 02:00:44,219 building is and then we would 9279 02:00:44,219 --> 02:00:45,320 have to end up looking at 9280 02:00:45,320 --> 02:00:45,620 um to 9281 02:00:45,620 --> 02:00:46,210 the 9282 02:00:46,210 --> 02:00:47,422 um actual 9283 02:00:47,422 --> 02:00:47,789 property owner if 9284 02:00:47,789 --> 02:00:48,230 that were 9285 02:00:48,230 --> 02:00:49,991 to 9286 02:00:49,991 --> 02:00:50,759 occur. I think we 9287 02:00:50,759 --> 02:00:51,260 have some other ways that 9288 02:00:51,260 --> 02:00:52,694 we 9289 02:00:52,694 --> 02:00:53,261 could alleviate that during. So 9290 02:00:53,261 --> 02:00:55,229 would that fine 9291 02:00:55,229 --> 02:00:57,650 accrue to the 9292 02:00:57,650 --> 02:00:57,499 the overall property owner, or 9293 02:00:57,499 --> 02:00:59,200 would that 9294 02:00:59,200 --> 02:00:59,634 that fine be stuck 9295 02:00:59,634 --> 02:01:00,802 on the 9296 02:01:00,802 --> 02:01:01,403 the 9297 02:01:01,403 --> 02:01:01,703 individual business 9298 02:01:01,703 --> 02:01:01,970 . 9299 02:01:01,970 --> 02:01:03,138 Tco 9300 02:01:03,138 --> 02:01:03,638 is 9301 02:01:03,638 --> 02:01:04,406 temporary certificate of 9302 02:01:04,406 --> 02:01:06,475 occupancy would typically go to 9303 02:01:06,475 --> 02:01:06,842 the individual user and that's 9304 02:01:06,842 --> 02:01:07,909 where we 9305 02:01:07,909 --> 02:01:08,430 would then 9306 02:01:08,430 --> 02:01:08,443 come 9307 02:01:08,443 --> 02:01:08,843 sitting on 9308 02:01:08,843 --> 02:01:09,177 and say 9309 02:01:09,177 --> 02:01:09,911 , this is 9310 02:01:09,911 --> 02:01:10,446 the 9311 02:01:10,446 --> 02:01:10,913 this is the 9312 02:01:10,913 --> 02:01:11,713 full scenario and 9313 02:01:11,713 --> 02:01:12,681 this is why I know we would 9314 02:01:12,681 --> 02:01:13,248 have 9315 02:01:13,248 --> 02:01:14,583 other, um 9316 02:01:14,583 --> 02:01:14,783 , ways 9317 02:01:14,783 --> 02:01:15,383 to 9318 02:01:15,383 --> 02:01:16,618 motivate the overall 9319 02:01:16,618 --> 02:01:16,918 property 9320 02:01:16,918 --> 02:01:17,485 on our 9321 02:01:17,485 --> 02:01:18,190 team, because I was like 9322 02:01:18,190 --> 02:01:18,820 it's not atypical 9323 02:01:18,820 --> 02:01:19,200 , it's 9324 02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:19,921 not 9325 02:01:19,921 --> 02:01:21,123 atypical for a 9326 02:01:21,123 --> 02:01:21,590 , a 9327 02:01:21,590 --> 02:01:22,570 tenant to get 9328 02:01:22,570 --> 02:01:23,726 a fine 9329 02:01:23,726 --> 02:01:24,426 , the applicant to get a 9330 02:01:24,426 --> 02:01:24,759 fine for something and then get 9331 02:01:24,759 --> 02:01:25,928 it to 9332 02:01:25,928 --> 02:01:26,361 the owner 9333 02:01:26,361 --> 02:01:26,962 and say, hey, 9334 02:01:26,962 --> 02:01:27,229 this is not within 9335 02:01:27,229 --> 02:01:27,896 my 9336 02:01:27,896 --> 02:01:28,663 purview. 9337 02:01:28,663 --> 02:01:28,930 I mean, fine for this, you 9338 02:01:28,930 --> 02:01:29,197 need 9339 02:01:29,197 --> 02:01:29,764 to 9340 02:01:29,764 --> 02:01:30,332 fix this or you need 9341 02:01:30,332 --> 02:01:30,633 to 9342 02:01:30,633 --> 02:01:31,990 pay 9343 02:01:31,990 --> 02:01:31,633 this. So 9344 02:01:31,633 --> 02:01:32,467 that becomes 9345 02:01:32,467 --> 02:01:33,168 its 9346 02:01:33,168 --> 02:01:33,468 own 9347 02:01:33,468 --> 02:01:34,469 issue 9348 02:01:34,469 --> 02:01:34,936 amongst them themselves 9349 02:01:34,936 --> 02:01:35,270 as opposed 9350 02:01:35,270 --> 02:01:35,670 to us 9351 02:01:35,670 --> 02:01:36,738 with that 9352 02:01:36,738 --> 02:01:37,773 . It 9353 02:01:37,773 --> 02:01:39,700 typically landowners want 9354 02:01:39,700 --> 02:01:39,375 rent 9355 02:01:39,375 --> 02:01:40,760 so, yeah 9356 02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:41,676 , yeah, but but 9357 02:01:41,676 --> 02:01:42,245 it 9358 02:01:42,245 --> 02:01:42,545 could be that 9359 02:01:42,545 --> 02:01:43,412 scenario 9360 02:01:43,412 --> 02:01:44,112 could 9361 02:01:44,112 --> 02:01:44,279 occur. Let's be clear, it's 9362 02:01:44,279 --> 02:01:44,780 not 9363 02:01:44,780 --> 02:01:45,881 like we have not 9364 02:01:45,881 --> 02:01:46,348 dealt with 9365 02:01:46,348 --> 02:01:48,283 that scenario 9366 02:01:48,283 --> 02:01:48,550 before 9367 02:01:48,550 --> 02:01:49,170 . I'm sorry 9368 02:01:49,170 --> 02:01:49,317 Melody, what 9369 02:01:49,317 --> 02:01:50,919 was that 9370 02:01:50,919 --> 02:01:51,187 ? Now I've 9371 02:01:51,187 --> 02:01:52,954 just 9372 02:01:52,954 --> 02:01:53,155 forgotten that. 00 no 9373 02:01:53,155 --> 02:01:53,455 , I 9374 02:01:53,455 --> 02:01:55,900 said 9375 02:01:55,900 --> 02:01:55,757 , this 9376 02:01:55,757 --> 02:01:56,580 scenario could occur 9377 02:01:56,580 --> 02:01:58,580 where 9378 02:01:58,226 --> 02:02:00,162 there's a, something is 9379 02:02:00,162 --> 02:02:00,596 not substantially complete and 9380 02:02:00,596 --> 02:02:01,897 it's out of 9381 02:02:01,897 --> 02:02:02,531 the 9382 02:02:02,531 --> 02:02:04,990 tenants ability 9383 02:02:04,990 --> 02:02:04,333 to do that 9384 02:02:04,333 --> 02:02:04,767 and 9385 02:02:04,767 --> 02:02:05,335 some scenarios 9386 02:02:05,335 --> 02:02:06,168 the tenant wouldn't 9387 02:02:06,168 --> 02:02:06,435 be eligible 9388 02:02:06,435 --> 02:02:06,768 for 9389 02:02:06,768 --> 02:02:07,269 a tco in 9390 02:02:07,269 --> 02:02:08,403 that 9391 02:02:08,403 --> 02:02:08,770 scenario. 9392 02:02:08,770 --> 02:02:09,171 Either 9393 02:02:09,171 --> 02:02:09,604 we would 9394 02:02:09,604 --> 02:02:11,140 maintain't want 9395 02:02:11,140 --> 02:02:11,607 the tco would not be 9396 02:02:11,607 --> 02:02:12,307 issued or 9397 02:02:12,307 --> 02:02:13,800 we would issue it and 9398 02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:13,775 we would 9399 02:02:13,775 --> 02:02:14,543 bring that forward 9400 02:02:14,543 --> 02:02:15,210 as 9401 02:02:15,210 --> 02:02:16,579 a 9402 02:02:16,579 --> 02:02:17,179 sinuating circumstance that 9403 02:02:17,179 --> 02:02:17,647 he's they would 9404 02:02:17,647 --> 02:02:18,147 rather 9405 02:02:18,147 --> 02:02:18,580 be open 9406 02:02:18,580 --> 02:02:20,315 than 9407 02:02:20,315 --> 02:02:21,183 not. Yeah 9408 02:02:21,183 --> 02:02:21,683 , yeah 9409 02:02:21,683 --> 02:02:22,451 , right 9410 02:02:22,451 --> 02:02:23,850 , uh 9411 02:02:23,850 --> 02:02:23,686 again, this is a 9412 02:02:23,686 --> 02:02:24,553 public hearing 9413 02:02:24,553 --> 02:02:25,521 Any 9414 02:02:25,521 --> 02:02:27,123 additional public comment 9415 02:02:27,123 --> 02:02:27,556 ? 9416 02:02:27,556 --> 02:02:29,240 I see no 9417 02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:29,391 additional public 9418 02:02:29,391 --> 02:02:31,391 comment 9419 02:02:31,427 --> 02:02:31,727 . Would anyone like to 9420 02:02:31,727 --> 02:02:33,428 close 9421 02:02:33,428 --> 02:02:33,862 public. One second 9422 02:02:33,862 --> 02:02:35,264 , 2 9423 02:02:35,264 --> 02:02:35,731 . I 9424 02:02:35,731 --> 02:02:36,231 have 9425 02:02:36,231 --> 02:02:36,432 a Caesar and I 9426 02:02:36,432 --> 02:02:36,900 thought 9427 02:02:36,900 --> 02:02:37,866 Jonathan, there 9428 02:02:37,866 --> 02:02:38,500 we go 9429 02:02:38,500 --> 02:02:39,735 . Gotta 9430 02:02:39,735 --> 02:02:40,202 be 9431 02:02:40,202 --> 02:02:42,202 quicker, David 9432 02:02:47,750 --> 02:02:48,845 . Oh 9433 02:02:48,845 --> 02:02:49,411 , so you made 9434 02:02:49,411 --> 02:02:49,878 the motion, man 9435 02:02:49,878 --> 02:02:51,480 . Come on 9436 02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:51,780 . It's 9437 02:02:51,780 --> 02:02:52,248 not 9438 02:02:52,248 --> 02:02:53,616 . I like 9439 02:02:53,616 --> 02:02:55,616 There it goes 9440 02:02:56,418 --> 02:02:56,853 . 9441 02:02:56,853 --> 02:02:58,587 There we go 9442 02:02:58,587 --> 02:03:00,489 Uh 9443 02:03:00,489 --> 02:03:00,923 , and this is an 9444 02:03:00,923 --> 02:03:01,290 ordinance 9445 02:03:01,290 --> 02:03:02,658 . Uh 9446 02:03:02,658 --> 02:03:02,958 , I will move to 9447 02:03:02,958 --> 02:03:03,192 adopt 9448 02:03:03,192 --> 02:03:04,693 the 9449 02:03:04,693 --> 02:03:06,693 ordinance 9450 02:03:18,874 --> 02:03:20,874 . Motion 9451 02:03:21,770 --> 02:03:21,610 passes unanimously. Uh, Ashley, 9452 02:03:21,610 --> 02:03:22,679 thank you for your 9453 02:03:22,679 --> 02:03:23,212 , uh, your 9454 02:03:23,212 --> 02:03:23,613 assistance and your, uh, 9455 02:03:23,613 --> 02:03:25,114 clarity on 9456 02:03:25,114 --> 02:03:25,581 that item. Uh 9457 02:03:25,581 --> 02:03:25,915 , this 9458 02:03:25,915 --> 02:03:27,149 brings 9459 02:03:27,149 --> 02:03:27,516 us 9460 02:03:27,516 --> 02:03:27,817 to our 9461 02:03:27,817 --> 02:03:28,117 regular 9462 02:03:28,117 --> 02:03:29,919 agenda 9463 02:03:29,919 --> 02:03:30,252 item 88a is to 9464 02:03:30,252 --> 02:03:30,820 discuss and 9465 02:03:30,820 --> 02:03:31,721 consider action 9466 02:03:31,721 --> 02:03:31,921 to approve 9467 02:03:31,921 --> 02:03:32,722 a 9468 02:03:32,722 --> 02:03:32,955 resolution appointing 9469 02:03:32,955 --> 02:03:33,990 a 9470 02:03:33,990 --> 02:03:34,690 2026 9471 02:03:34,690 --> 02:03:35,910 Capital Improvement Bond 9472 02:03:35,910 --> 02:03:36,560 Committee 9473 02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:36,792 . This 9474 02:03:36,792 --> 02:03:37,600 is 9475 02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:38,327 for 9476 02:03:38,327 --> 02:03:39,280 council 9477 02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:39,662 appointments. I think you were 9478 02:03:39,662 --> 02:03:40,630 all informed you need 9479 02:03:40,630 --> 02:03:41,130 to bring 9480 02:03:41,130 --> 02:03:41,731 2 9481 02:03:41,731 --> 02:03:42,966 people. Uh, I had 9482 02:03:42,966 --> 02:03:43,266 to 9483 02:03:43,266 --> 02:03:43,733 find 3 9484 02:03:43,733 --> 02:03:44,166 . 9485 02:03:44,166 --> 02:03:45,134 Not sure if 9486 02:03:45,134 --> 02:03:45,601 I did 9487 02:03:45,601 --> 02:03:46,102 , but 9488 02:03:46,102 --> 02:03:46,435 uh does 9489 02:03:46,435 --> 02:03:47,470 everyone 9490 02:03:47,470 --> 02:03:48,700 has 9491 02:03:48,700 --> 02:03:48,505 everyone provided 9492 02:03:48,505 --> 02:03:49,972 theirs or is 9493 02:03:49,972 --> 02:03:50,573 this something we 9494 02:03:50,573 --> 02:03:50,740 need to do this, I 9495 02:03:50,740 --> 02:03:51,274 haven't 9496 02:03:51,274 --> 02:03:52,800 heard that, yeah 9497 02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:52,308 , just you'll 9498 02:03:52,308 --> 02:03:52,642 need 9499 02:03:52,642 --> 02:03:52,908 to go 9500 02:03:52,908 --> 02:03:53,276 . Ok 9501 02:03:53,276 --> 02:03:54,911 , I had 9502 02:03:54,911 --> 02:03:55,411 , um, um, 9503 02:03:55,411 --> 02:03:56,380 oh, I just 9504 02:03:56,380 --> 02:03:57,547 had a 9505 02:03:57,547 --> 02:03:57,780 , a comment 9506 02:03:57,780 --> 02:03:59,780 . Um 9507 02:04:00,820 --> 02:04:00,917 Um so as we think about 9508 02:04:00,917 --> 02:04:01,451 the 9509 02:04:01,451 --> 02:04:01,851 timing for a 9510 02:04:01,851 --> 02:04:03,519 bond 9511 02:04:03,519 --> 02:04:03,987 , um, I'm 9512 02:04:03,987 --> 02:04:04,387 focused 9513 02:04:04,387 --> 02:04:04,787 on setting 9514 02:04:04,787 --> 02:04:05,210 ourselves 9515 02:04:05,210 --> 02:04:05,287 up 9516 02:04:05,287 --> 02:04:05,988 for 9517 02:04:05,988 --> 02:04:06,722 success when we go to 9518 02:04:06,722 --> 02:04:07,118 the 9519 02:04:07,118 --> 02:04:07,356 voters 9520 02:04:07,356 --> 02:04:08,240 . We 9521 02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:08,325 currently 9522 02:04:08,325 --> 02:04:08,958 have 9523 02:04:08,958 --> 02:04:09,325 several once in 9524 02:04:09,325 --> 02:04:10,590 a 9525 02:04:10,590 --> 02:04:11,127 generation 9526 02:04:11,127 --> 02:04:11,694 facilities 9527 02:04:11,694 --> 02:04:11,994 under construction, 9528 02:04:11,994 --> 02:04:12,528 the 9529 02:04:12,528 --> 02:04:12,962 recreation 9530 02:04:12,962 --> 02:04:13,329 center 9531 02:04:13,329 --> 02:04:13,963 , city 9532 02:04:13,963 --> 02:04:14,797 hall, and the garage 9533 02:04:14,797 --> 02:04:15,398 . Public 9534 02:04:15,398 --> 02:04:16,699 works building, and 3 9535 02:04:16,699 --> 02:04:17,433 major 9536 02:04:17,433 --> 02:04:17,768 utility projects. All 9537 02:04:17,768 --> 02:04:19,535 scheduled 9538 02:04:19,535 --> 02:04:19,769 to deliver within the next 9539 02:04:19,769 --> 02:04:21,305 12 9540 02:04:21,305 --> 02:04:21,871 months. Uh 9541 02:04:21,871 --> 02:04:22,305 , the reported amount 9542 02:04:22,305 --> 02:04:23,740 of general 9543 02:04:23,740 --> 02:04:24,107 fund 9544 02:04:24,107 --> 02:04:24,407 unspent bond 9545 02:04:24,407 --> 02:04:25,975 funds 9546 02:04:25,975 --> 02:04:26,976 is 9547 02:04:26,976 --> 02:04:28,378 414 million, which 9548 02:04:28,378 --> 02:04:29,479 is 9549 02:04:29,479 --> 02:04:30,213 approximately 68% 9550 02:04:30,213 --> 02:04:30,613 of 9551 02:04:30,613 --> 02:04:31,470 authorized 9552 02:04:31,470 --> 02:04:31,781 and issued 9553 02:04:31,781 --> 02:04:32,615 bond 9554 02:04:32,615 --> 02:04:32,849 funds 9555 02:04:32,849 --> 02:04:33,449 , 9556 02:04:33,449 --> 02:04:33,816 residents want to 9557 02:04:33,816 --> 02:04:35,510 see 9558 02:04:35,510 --> 02:04:35,551 continued 9559 02:04:35,551 --> 02:04:36,152 visible progress 9560 02:04:36,152 --> 02:04:36,419 on major road 9561 02:04:36,419 --> 02:04:37,253 and 9562 02:04:37,253 --> 02:04:37,754 park 9563 02:04:37,754 --> 02:04:38,255 projects 9564 02:04:38,255 --> 02:04:38,455 approved 9565 02:04:38,455 --> 02:04:38,754 in 9566 02:04:38,754 --> 02:04:39,589 2020 9567 02:04:39,589 --> 02:04:40,590 and prior 9568 02:04:40,590 --> 02:04:41,570 . And the the 9569 02:04:41,570 --> 02:04:41,357 next set 9570 02:04:41,357 --> 02:04:41,924 of 9571 02:04:41,924 --> 02:04:42,292 knees 9572 02:04:42,292 --> 02:04:42,659 being 9573 02:04:42,659 --> 02:04:42,926 discussed 9574 02:04:42,926 --> 02:04:43,960 are 9575 02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:44,227 , are important, 9576 02:04:44,227 --> 02:04:44,995 but 9577 02:04:44,995 --> 02:04:45,395 um they're different in 9578 02:04:45,395 --> 02:04:46,195 scale and 9579 02:04:46,195 --> 02:04:46,696 can 9580 02:04:46,696 --> 02:04:48,331 be sequenced 9581 02:04:48,331 --> 02:04:48,798 more 9582 02:04:48,798 --> 02:04:49,299 flexibly for a 9583 02:04:49,299 --> 02:04:49,699 timing 9584 02:04:49,699 --> 02:04:51,340 standpoint 9585 02:04:51,340 --> 02:04:51,267 , allowing residents 9586 02:04:51,267 --> 02:04:51,801 to 9587 02:04:51,801 --> 02:04:53,360 see 9588 02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:53,403 delivery 9589 02:04:53,403 --> 02:04:53,703 and progress 9590 02:04:53,703 --> 02:04:53,970 across 9591 02:04:53,970 --> 02:04:55,405 these 9592 02:04:55,405 --> 02:04:56,139 existing 9593 02:04:56,139 --> 02:04:57,674 commitments, puts us in the 9594 02:04:57,674 --> 02:04:57,974 strongest position. And 9595 02:04:57,974 --> 02:04:58,875 so I 9596 02:04:58,875 --> 02:04:59,743 support 9597 02:04:59,743 --> 02:05:00,430 delaying consideration 9598 02:05:00,430 --> 02:05:00,410 of a 9599 02:05:00,410 --> 02:05:00,877 potential 9600 02:05:00,877 --> 02:05:01,911 bond until 9601 02:05:01,911 --> 02:05:02,479 next 9602 02:05:02,479 --> 02:05:03,246 calendar 9603 02:05:03,246 --> 02:05:04,800 year 2027 9604 02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:04,547 , when 9605 02:05:04,547 --> 02:05:05,810 these 9606 02:05:05,810 --> 02:05:05,515 large 9607 02:05:05,515 --> 02:05:05,949 projects are 9608 02:05:05,949 --> 02:05:06,216 open to 9609 02:05:06,216 --> 02:05:06,516 the 9610 02:05:06,516 --> 02:05:07,283 public 9611 02:05:07,283 --> 02:05:08,585 . Or 9612 02:05:08,585 --> 02:05:09,319 available and and 9613 02:05:09,319 --> 02:05:10,887 and put forward into 9614 02:05:10,887 --> 02:05:11,321 use. So 9615 02:05:11,321 --> 02:05:11,688 that was my 9616 02:05:11,688 --> 02:05:11,922 comment 9617 02:05:11,922 --> 02:05:13,456 . Your 9618 02:05:13,456 --> 02:05:14,570 position, we 9619 02:05:14,570 --> 02:05:15,792 , we shouldn't get 9620 02:05:15,792 --> 02:05:16,920 started on design 9621 02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:16,326 and planning 9622 02:05:16,326 --> 02:05:17,794 on 9623 02:05:17,794 --> 02:05:18,195 other projects until 9624 02:05:18,195 --> 02:05:18,895 we have 9625 02:05:18,895 --> 02:05:19,162 these other complete. I feel 9626 02:05:19,162 --> 02:05:20,230 like 9627 02:05:20,230 --> 02:05:20,563 that leaves us a 9628 02:05:20,563 --> 02:05:20,898 gap 9629 02:05:20,898 --> 02:05:21,998 in 9630 02:05:21,998 --> 02:05:22,365 our 9631 02:05:22,365 --> 02:05:22,699 ability to 9632 02:05:22,699 --> 02:05:22,866 deliver 9633 02:05:22,866 --> 02:05:23,466 . I 9634 02:05:23,466 --> 02:05:24,301 believe some of the 9635 02:05:24,301 --> 02:05:24,635 bond 9636 02:05:24,635 --> 02:05:25,301 funds 9637 02:05:25,301 --> 02:05:25,869 through a certificate 9638 02:05:25,869 --> 02:05:27,700 of 9639 02:05:27,700 --> 02:05:27,405 occupancy 9640 02:05:27,405 --> 02:05:27,805 has already 9641 02:05:27,805 --> 02:05:28,371 included 9642 02:05:28,371 --> 02:05:28,806 planning for 9643 02:05:28,806 --> 02:05:28,972 the majority 9644 02:05:28,972 --> 02:05:29,239 of 9645 02:05:29,239 --> 02:05:29,673 the 9646 02:05:29,673 --> 02:05:30,173 roads that 9647 02:05:30,173 --> 02:05:30,507 are on, that 9648 02:05:30,507 --> 02:05:31,908 are 9649 02:05:31,908 --> 02:05:32,576 being proposed 9650 02:05:32,576 --> 02:05:33,110 . Um, so 9651 02:05:33,110 --> 02:05:34,450 i just 9652 02:05:34,450 --> 02:05:34,578 think that if we 9653 02:05:34,578 --> 02:05:35,111 want 9654 02:05:35,111 --> 02:05:36,112 to set 9655 02:05:36,112 --> 02:05:37,800 ourselves up for the 9656 02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:37,981 most 9657 02:05:37,981 --> 02:05:38,915 success that it would be good 9658 02:05:38,915 --> 02:05:40,550 to have a lot of these big 9659 02:05:40,550 --> 02:05:41,384 projects 9660 02:05:41,384 --> 02:05:42,752 , uh, visibly done and 9661 02:05:42,752 --> 02:05:43,186 available to 9662 02:05:43,186 --> 02:05:43,587 the public. And 9663 02:05:43,587 --> 02:05:44,821 the number 9664 02:05:44,821 --> 02:05:45,189 you 9665 02:05:45,189 --> 02:05:46,220 quoted 9666 02:05:46,220 --> 02:05:47,190 441 9667 02:05:47,190 --> 02:05:47,724 million 9668 02:05:47,724 --> 02:05:47,991 14, yeah 9669 02:05:47,991 --> 02:05:49,326 , it's 9670 02:05:49,326 --> 02:05:49,960 from the 9671 02:05:49,960 --> 02:05:50,293 how much of that is 9672 02:05:50,293 --> 02:05:51,495 geo 9673 02:05:51,495 --> 02:05:51,862 ? That 9674 02:05:51,862 --> 02:05:52,262 is 9675 02:05:52,262 --> 02:05:52,529 the go 9676 02:05:52,529 --> 02:05:53,997 and 9677 02:05:53,997 --> 02:05:54,431 the 9678 02:05:54,431 --> 02:05:55,298 the the 9679 02:05:55,298 --> 02:05:55,666 um 9680 02:05:55,666 --> 02:05:56,733 utility 9681 02:05:56,733 --> 02:05:57,333 with the addition I'm 9682 02:05:57,333 --> 02:05:58,335 sorry, you said that 9683 02:05:58,335 --> 02:05:58,502 the 414 9684 02:05:58,502 --> 02:05:58,802 . 9685 02:05:58,802 --> 02:05:59,236 I'm 9686 02:05:59,236 --> 02:05:59,469 sorry, it's 9687 02:05:59,469 --> 02:06:00,360 a 9688 02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:00,871 general 9689 02:06:00,871 --> 02:06:01,137 fund 9690 02:06:01,137 --> 02:06:01,571 , 9691 02:06:01,571 --> 02:06:02,272 general fund 9692 02:06:02,272 --> 02:06:02,640 , not go 9693 02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:02,939 , but 9694 02:06:02,939 --> 02:06:03,240 I'm 9695 02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:04,107 sorry 9696 02:06:04,107 --> 02:06:04,474 , 414 I'm 9697 02:06:04,474 --> 02:06:05,420 trying to 9698 02:06:05,420 --> 02:06:05,376 understand how much 9699 02:06:05,376 --> 02:06:06,343 of 9700 02:06:06,343 --> 02:06:06,710 that 9701 02:06:06,710 --> 02:06:07,110 is 9702 02:06:07,110 --> 02:06:08,278 previous uh 9703 02:06:08,278 --> 02:06:08,612 bond election 9704 02:06:08,612 --> 02:06:10,800 dollars 9705 02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:12,800 . Um 9706 02:06:14,884 --> 02:06:16,720 yeah 9707 02:06:16,720 --> 02:06:18,720 , we have 9708 02:06:18,755 --> 02:06:19,456 , um, 9709 02:06:19,456 --> 02:06:19,690 19 million on one of 9710 02:06:19,690 --> 02:06:21,125 the 9711 02:06:21,125 --> 02:06:21,458 go 9712 02:06:21,458 --> 02:06:21,992 issues 9713 02:06:21,992 --> 02:06:22,259 um that's unspent and 9714 02:06:22,259 --> 02:06:23,994 then 9715 02:06:23,994 --> 02:06:24,394 40 million this is 9716 02:06:24,394 --> 02:06:25,662 according 9717 02:06:25,662 --> 02:06:25,963 to the uh on 9718 02:06:25,963 --> 02:06:26,697 the 9719 02:06:26,697 --> 02:06:27,731 transparency page of the 9720 02:06:27,731 --> 02:06:28,232 unspent 9721 02:06:28,232 --> 02:06:29,132 bond 9722 02:06:29,132 --> 02:06:30,330 fundslips reported 9723 02:06:30,330 --> 02:06:31,101 so 9724 02:06:31,101 --> 02:06:32,200 that's 9725 02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:32,436 149 9726 02:06:32,436 --> 02:06:32,870 million 9727 02:06:32,870 --> 02:06:33,637 um from 9728 02:06:33,637 --> 02:06:34,838 the 2020 9729 02:06:34,838 --> 02:06:35,339 . Geo 9730 02:06:35,339 --> 02:06:36,506 bond 9731 02:06:36,506 --> 02:06:37,140 out 9732 02:06:37,140 --> 02:06:37,608 of 191. 9733 02:06:37,608 --> 02:06:38,909 191, you're 9734 02:06:38,909 --> 02:06:39,343 saying 9735 02:06:39,343 --> 02:06:39,877 that uh more 9736 02:06:39,877 --> 02:06:40,944 than 75% 9737 02:06:40,944 --> 02:06:41,712 of 9738 02:06:41,712 --> 02:06:42,179 that is correct, 9739 02:06:42,179 --> 02:06:43,547 according to 9740 02:06:43,547 --> 02:06:43,747 the report on 9741 02:06:43,747 --> 02:06:44,114 the 9742 02:06:44,114 --> 02:06:46,114 website 9743 02:06:47,951 --> 02:06:48,585 . That 9744 02:06:48,585 --> 02:06:48,886 , that doesn't 9745 02:06:48,886 --> 02:06:50,721 sound 9746 02:06:50,721 --> 02:06:50,828 . Reasonable. I, I 9747 02:06:50,828 --> 02:06:51,254 , I 9748 02:06:51,254 --> 02:06:52,222 don't have 9749 02:06:52,222 --> 02:06:52,857 those numbers the 9750 02:06:52,857 --> 02:06:53,157 top of my head, but I would 9751 02:06:53,157 --> 02:06:55,157 just 9752 02:06:56,275 --> 02:06:56,393 , um, those are all 9753 02:06:56,393 --> 02:06:56,542 fair 9754 02:06:56,542 --> 02:06:57,161 points 9755 02:06:57,161 --> 02:06:57,895 , um, your bond committee 9756 02:06:57,895 --> 02:06:59,129 of course, could come back 9757 02:06:59,129 --> 02:07:00,300 and 9758 02:07:00,300 --> 02:07:00,264 recommend zero bonds. Um 9759 02:07:00,264 --> 02:07:00,564 , so I 9760 02:07:00,564 --> 02:07:01,231 think 9761 02:07:01,231 --> 02:07:01,566 it 9762 02:07:01,566 --> 02:07:01,865 would 9763 02:07:01,865 --> 02:07:02,199 be 9764 02:07:02,199 --> 02:07:02,633 , in 9765 02:07:02,633 --> 02:07:03,701 fairness 9766 02:07:03,701 --> 02:07:04,401 and 9767 02:07:04,401 --> 02:07:04,635 transparency to have 9768 02:07:04,635 --> 02:07:05,690 a 9769 02:07:05,690 --> 02:07:06,403 bond 9770 02:07:06,403 --> 02:07:06,905 committee learn all of 9771 02:07:06,905 --> 02:07:07,337 that 9772 02:07:07,337 --> 02:07:08,439 information 9773 02:07:08,439 --> 02:07:09,206 and be able to 9774 02:07:09,206 --> 02:07:09,773 digest it and 9775 02:07:09,773 --> 02:07:10,708 make a, make 9776 02:07:10,708 --> 02:07:11,175 a 9777 02:07:11,175 --> 02:07:11,875 recommendation 9778 02:07:11,875 --> 02:07:12,409 . Maybe they'll 9779 02:07:12,409 --> 02:07:12,843 agree and come 9780 02:07:12,843 --> 02:07:13,177 back 9781 02:07:13,177 --> 02:07:15,112 with 0 9782 02:07:15,112 --> 02:07:15,980 . I 9783 02:07:15,980 --> 02:07:17,681 think in fairness, you should 9784 02:07:17,681 --> 02:07:18,150 have a, a committee 9785 02:07:18,150 --> 02:07:19,483 of 9786 02:07:19,483 --> 02:07:20,151 citizens 9787 02:07:20,151 --> 02:07:21,852 to make that decision 9788 02:07:21,852 --> 02:07:22,860 Well 9789 02:07:22,860 --> 02:07:22,245 , I 9790 02:07:22,245 --> 02:07:22,453 , 9791 02:07:22,453 --> 02:07:24,255 I 9792 02:07:24,255 --> 02:07:24,789 do think that uh 9793 02:07:24,789 --> 02:07:26,190 we're 9794 02:07:26,190 --> 02:07:26,623 more 9795 02:07:26,623 --> 02:07:26,925 likely to 9796 02:07:26,925 --> 02:07:27,325 get 9797 02:07:27,325 --> 02:07:28,492 citizens to 9798 02:07:28,492 --> 02:07:29,360 say 9799 02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:31,950 yes after they see 9800 02:07:31,950 --> 02:07:31,295 big 9801 02:07:31,295 --> 02:07:31,729 projects 9802 02:07:31,729 --> 02:07:33,198 opening up 9803 02:07:33,198 --> 02:07:35,198 . Then 9804 02:07:35,433 --> 02:07:35,933 we go to the 9805 02:07:35,933 --> 02:07:37,268 citizens and say 9806 02:07:37,268 --> 02:07:37,968 we'd like you 9807 02:07:37,968 --> 02:07:38,469 to approve a bunch of money 9808 02:07:38,469 --> 02:07:39,737 while we have a 9809 02:07:39,737 --> 02:07:39,970 bunch 9810 02:07:39,970 --> 02:07:40,804 of 9811 02:07:40,804 --> 02:07:41,105 unfinished projects in front of 9812 02:07:41,105 --> 02:07:42,106 you 9813 02:07:42,106 --> 02:07:42,840 . Um 9814 02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:43,908 , the psychology 9815 02:07:43,908 --> 02:07:44,442 of 9816 02:07:44,442 --> 02:07:45,420 the 9817 02:07:45,420 --> 02:07:46,310 ask, I think 9818 02:07:46,310 --> 02:07:46,577 we're 9819 02:07:46,577 --> 02:07:46,944 more likely 9820 02:07:46,944 --> 02:07:47,378 to get a 9821 02:07:47,378 --> 02:07:49,180 yes 9822 02:07:49,180 --> 02:07:50,748 answer, after 9823 02:07:50,748 --> 02:07:51,415 the 9824 02:07:51,415 --> 02:07:52,950 monarch is open and 9825 02:07:52,950 --> 02:07:53,585 and 9826 02:07:53,585 --> 02:07:55,186 operational, then if we 9827 02:07:55,186 --> 02:07:55,487 put 9828 02:07:55,487 --> 02:07:56,870 that 9829 02:07:56,870 --> 02:07:58,870 out there beforehand 9830 02:07:58,256 --> 02:08:00,910 . I 9831 02:08:00,910 --> 02:08:00,424 think that's a a 9832 02:08:00,424 --> 02:08:00,691 very 9833 02:08:00,691 --> 02:08:02,691 good 9834 02:08:02,693 --> 02:08:02,893 topic for the uh bond 9835 02:08:02,893 --> 02:08:03,327 committee 9836 02:08:03,327 --> 02:08:05,263 to consider 9837 02:08:05,263 --> 02:08:06,465 . Uh based on 9838 02:08:06,465 --> 02:08:07,198 uh, I 9839 02:08:07,198 --> 02:08:07,631 would imagine their research 9840 02:08:07,631 --> 02:08:08,666 would include 9841 02:08:08,666 --> 02:08:08,900 timing 9842 02:08:08,900 --> 02:08:09,333 of 9843 02:08:09,333 --> 02:08:09,934 uh 9844 02:08:09,934 --> 02:08:11,903 delivery projects. Um 9845 02:08:11,903 --> 02:08:13,638 . This is 9846 02:08:13,638 --> 02:08:14,205 this is an item 9847 02:08:14,205 --> 02:08:15,973 for 9848 02:08:15,973 --> 02:08:16,607 appointments. Um, we should 9849 02:08:16,607 --> 02:08:17,909 probably take names and 9850 02:08:17,909 --> 02:08:18,409 then 9851 02:08:18,409 --> 02:08:19,760 vote on 9852 02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:20,912 appointing those people 9853 02:08:20,912 --> 02:08:21,450 Um, so Jonathan, do you have 9854 02:08:21,450 --> 02:08:21,479 , 9855 02:08:21,479 --> 02:08:22,814 uh, 2 people 9856 02:08:22,814 --> 02:08:23,810 ? Yes 9857 02:08:23,810 --> 02:08:24,916 , I'd 9858 02:08:24,916 --> 02:08:25,417 like to 9859 02:08:25,417 --> 02:08:25,916 , 9860 02:08:25,916 --> 02:08:26,684 uh, nominate Lucas 9861 02:08:26,684 --> 02:08:27,850 Myers and 9862 02:08:27,850 --> 02:08:29,850 Chris Wolf 9863 02:08:34,192 --> 02:08:35,693 . Uh, Caesar 9864 02:08:35,693 --> 02:08:36,394 . This 9865 02:08:36,394 --> 02:08:37,280 time I do not have a name. You 9866 02:08:37,280 --> 02:08:38,620 don't, you don't have 9867 02:08:38,620 --> 02:08:38,216 yours 9868 02:08:38,216 --> 02:08:38,629 . 9869 02:08:38,629 --> 02:08:38,963 I'll provide 9870 02:08:38,963 --> 02:08:40,631 them by 9871 02:08:40,631 --> 02:08:40,965 , um, 9872 02:08:40,965 --> 02:08:42,734 Kimberly 9873 02:08:42,734 --> 02:08:43,000 , um, it's 9874 02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:43,434 Yune 9875 02:08:43,434 --> 02:08:43,701 True 9876 02:08:43,701 --> 02:08:45,403 Love 9877 02:08:45,403 --> 02:08:45,603 , um, y 9878 02:08:45,603 --> 02:08:46,300 e 9879 02:08:46,300 --> 02:08:47,638 t u 9880 02:08:47,638 --> 02:08:48,473 n d e 9881 02:08:48,473 --> 02:08:49,600 . Last 9882 02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:51,600 name True Love 9883 02:08:52,710 --> 02:08:53,411 Mhm. Uh, do you 9884 02:08:53,411 --> 02:08:54,445 have a, do you have a second 9885 02:08:54,445 --> 02:08:54,879 ? 9886 02:08:54,879 --> 02:08:56,281 No. Just 9887 02:08:56,281 --> 02:08:56,848 one 9888 02:08:56,848 --> 02:08:57,216 . Just one for now. 9889 02:08:57,216 --> 02:08:58,783 All right 9890 02:08:58,783 --> 02:08:59,830 . Um 9891 02:08:59,830 --> 02:08:59,317 , Rudy 9892 02:08:59,317 --> 02:08:59,851 , I haven't 9893 02:08:59,851 --> 02:09:00,919 heard back from 9894 02:09:00,919 --> 02:09:01,520 that too 9895 02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:01,686 . You 9896 02:09:01,686 --> 02:09:01,986 haven't heard back from your 9897 02:09:01,986 --> 02:09:03,388 two 9898 02:09:03,388 --> 02:09:03,988 , melody 9899 02:09:03,988 --> 02:09:04,289 . Dennis 9900 02:09:04,289 --> 02:09:05,356 Spencer 9901 02:09:05,356 --> 02:09:06,157 and 9902 02:09:06,157 --> 02:09:08,157 Eric Klingelberger 9903 02:09:08,226 --> 02:09:08,459 . A l I 9904 02:09:08,459 --> 02:09:08,660 n 9905 02:09:08,660 --> 02:09:09,827 g 9906 02:09:09,827 --> 02:09:10,361 e 9907 02:09:10,361 --> 02:09:10,662 l b e 9908 02:09:10,662 --> 02:09:10,862 r g 9909 02:09:10,862 --> 02:09:12,960 e 9910 02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:12,497 r 9911 02:09:12,497 --> 02:09:12,931 . Dennis 9912 02:09:12,931 --> 02:09:13,364 Dennis 9913 02:09:13,364 --> 02:09:14,632 and I'm sorry 9914 02:09:14,632 --> 02:09:14,899 , what was 9915 02:09:14,899 --> 02:09:16,401 Mr 9916 02:09:16,401 --> 02:09:16,736 . 9917 02:09:16,736 --> 02:09:17,535 Berger's 9918 02:09:17,535 --> 02:09:19,505 Eric 9919 02:09:19,505 --> 02:09:19,771 ,, Eric Eric 9920 02:09:19,771 --> 02:09:21,372 . It's 9921 02:09:21,372 --> 02:09:21,973 c or a k 9922 02:09:21,973 --> 02:09:23,808 With a c 9923 02:09:23,808 --> 02:09:24,275 . I can send 9924 02:09:24,275 --> 02:09:25,677 it in writing 9925 02:09:25,677 --> 02:09:26,611 too 9926 02:09:26,611 --> 02:09:27,912 . Yeah 9927 02:09:27,912 --> 02:09:28,780 , I 9928 02:09:28,780 --> 02:09:30,148 emailed my to 9929 02:09:30,148 --> 02:09:30,482 the city 9930 02:09:30,482 --> 02:09:31,490 manager 9931 02:09:31,490 --> 02:09:32,985 earlier today, but 9932 02:09:32,985 --> 02:09:33,585 , uh, Mark 9933 02:09:33,585 --> 02:09:35,585 took up 9934 02:09:35,687 --> 02:09:36,220 , uh, and don't ask me 9935 02:09:36,220 --> 02:09:36,821 to spell his last 9936 02:09:36,821 --> 02:09:37,550 name 9937 02:09:37,550 --> 02:09:37,422 . Uh 9938 02:09:37,422 --> 02:09:38,223 , and 9939 02:09:38,223 --> 02:09:40,223 Kevin Packenham 9940 02:09:42,270 --> 02:09:42,195 . All right. Uh 9941 02:09:42,195 --> 02:09:42,594 , 9942 02:09:42,594 --> 02:09:44,396 I have 9943 02:09:44,396 --> 02:09:46,396 , um, Mark Epstein 9944 02:09:46,798 --> 02:09:48,200 . Uh 9945 02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:48,800 , I 9946 02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:50,800 have Melissa Cole 9947 02:09:53,710 --> 02:09:53,772 . And my 3rd, 9948 02:09:53,772 --> 02:09:54,472 I haven't heard back yet, but 9949 02:09:54,472 --> 02:09:55,400 I'm going to go ahead and 9950 02:09:55,400 --> 02:09:55,607 put 9951 02:09:55,607 --> 02:09:56,700 her on the spot. I 9952 02:09:56,700 --> 02:09:57,420 do believe 9953 02:09:57,420 --> 02:09:57,576 I 9954 02:09:57,576 --> 02:09:58,276 heard that uh 9955 02:09:58,276 --> 02:09:59,778 um there 9956 02:09:59,778 --> 02:10:00,790 is 9957 02:10:00,790 --> 02:10:00,812 some 9958 02:10:00,812 --> 02:10:02,414 overlap allowed on other 9959 02:10:02,414 --> 02:10:02,581 committees. I do have a 9960 02:10:02,581 --> 02:10:02,981 member 9961 02:10:02,981 --> 02:10:04,482 who's on 9962 02:10:04,482 --> 02:10:04,600 finance and budget 9963 02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:05,160 . 9964 02:10:05,160 --> 02:10:06,518 That one's ok 9965 02:10:06,518 --> 02:10:06,818 Uh 9966 02:10:06,818 --> 02:10:07,519 , so you 9967 02:10:07,519 --> 02:10:08,753 explain what 9968 02:10:08,753 --> 02:10:10,753 , so, uh 9969 02:10:11,189 --> 02:10:11,490 . Certain 9970 02:10:11,490 --> 02:10:13,490 other 9971 02:10:13,525 --> 02:10:13,925 committees and boards 9972 02:10:13,925 --> 02:10:15,794 and 9973 02:10:15,794 --> 02:10:16,194 commissions cannot also serve 9974 02:10:16,194 --> 02:10:17,929 on this 9975 02:10:17,929 --> 02:10:18,163 , uh, but some 9976 02:10:18,163 --> 02:10:18,865 can based 9977 02:10:18,865 --> 02:10:20,599 on the ordinance, so finance 9978 02:10:20,599 --> 02:10:20,932 and budget, for example 9979 02:10:20,932 --> 02:10:21,299 , can 9980 02:10:21,299 --> 02:10:23,269 charter 9981 02:10:23,269 --> 02:10:24,469 review cannot 9982 02:10:24,469 --> 02:10:24,970 , um, 9983 02:10:24,970 --> 02:10:25,303 library can, I 9984 02:10:25,303 --> 02:10:25,437 think 9985 02:10:25,437 --> 02:10:25,771 parks 9986 02:10:25,771 --> 02:10:27,306 cannot 9987 02:10:27,306 --> 02:10:28,400 . I 9988 02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:28,407 don't remember all 9989 02:10:28,407 --> 02:10:29,341 parks 9990 02:10:29,341 --> 02:10:29,908 can 9991 02:10:29,908 --> 02:10:31,343 , can 9992 02:10:31,343 --> 02:10:31,843 , pnz can't 9993 02:10:31,843 --> 02:10:32,245 because Parks is 9994 02:10:32,245 --> 02:10:33,679 an ordinance 9995 02:10:33,679 --> 02:10:33,945 and not a, I, I 9996 02:10:33,945 --> 02:10:34,279 don't 9997 02:10:34,279 --> 02:10:34,613 know that 9998 02:10:34,613 --> 02:10:35,814 specific 9999 02:10:35,814 --> 02:10:36,315 agrees. So 10000 02:10:36,315 --> 02:10:36,782 my third 10001 02:10:36,782 --> 02:10:38,317 don't 10002 02:10:38,317 --> 02:10:38,951 be surprised by this 10003 02:10:38,951 --> 02:10:40,385 tomorrow, is Chris Bailey 10004 02:10:40,385 --> 02:10:41,200 . Mhm 10005 02:10:41,200 --> 02:10:43,200 Uh 10006 02:10:43,288 --> 02:10:47,590 , and so what we have here is 10007 02:10:47,590 --> 02:10:47,859 123456789, 10 10008 02:10:47,859 --> 02:10:49,761 . I've got 10 10009 02:10:49,761 --> 02:10:51,761 members 10010 02:10:51,930 --> 02:10:52,520 , uh, mentioned and 10011 02:10:52,520 --> 02:10:52,397 5 10012 02:10:52,397 --> 02:10:54,100 pending 10013 02:10:54,100 --> 02:10:54,666 . Do we want to move 10014 02:10:54,666 --> 02:10:54,900 forward with the 10015 02:10:54,900 --> 02:10:55,267 10 members 10016 02:10:55,267 --> 02:10:56,468 tonight 10017 02:10:56,468 --> 02:10:56,768 ? Absolutely, yeah 10018 02:10:56,768 --> 02:10:57,135 . All 10019 02:10:57,135 --> 02:10:58,538 right 10020 02:10:58,538 --> 02:10:59,171 , so 10021 02:10:59,171 --> 02:10:59,404 the 10022 02:10:59,404 --> 02:10:59,771 slightest 10023 02:10:59,771 --> 02:11:00,939 presented 10024 02:11:00,939 --> 02:11:02,741 . Second 10025 02:11:02,741 --> 02:11:03,576 All right, I 10026 02:11:03,576 --> 02:11:07,776 got a couple of seconds on that 10027 02:11:10,215 --> 02:11:12,215 Uh 10028 02:11:12,251 --> 02:11:12,985 , motion 10029 02:11:12,985 --> 02:11:13,252 proved unanimously. 10030 02:11:13,252 --> 02:11:13,886 Uh 10031 02:11:13,886 --> 02:11:14,319 , that 10032 02:11:14,319 --> 02:11:14,553 brings us 10033 02:11:14,553 --> 02:11:16,553 to 10034 02:11:16,556 --> 02:11:16,989 item 8b 10035 02:11:16,989 --> 02:11:17,322 discussing and 10036 02:11:17,322 --> 02:11:18,557 consider 10037 02:11:18,557 --> 02:11:19,258 action 10038 02:11:19,258 --> 02:11:19,892 regarding special counsel 10039 02:11:19,892 --> 02:11:20,726 engagement letter with 10040 02:11:20,726 --> 02:11:21,326 Dent 10041 02:11:21,326 --> 02:11:21,628 Navarro Rodriguez 10042 02:11:21,628 --> 02:11:21,827 Bernal 10043 02:11:21,827 --> 02:11:22,940 Sanee 10044 02:11:22,940 --> 02:11:24,940 Ezek 10045 02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:28,567 . I believe 10046 02:11:28,567 --> 02:11:30,302 , uh, our, our 10047 02:11:30,302 --> 02:11:30,736 new attorney, would you like to 10048 02:11:30,736 --> 02:11:32,138 uh chime in 10049 02:11:32,138 --> 02:11:32,438 on 10050 02:11:32,438 --> 02:11:32,571 this 10051 02:11:32,571 --> 02:11:33,390 ? I've 10052 02:11:33,390 --> 02:11:34,540 looked at the 10053 02:11:34,540 --> 02:11:35,541 the 10054 02:11:35,541 --> 02:11:37,142 rates and I 10055 02:11:37,142 --> 02:11:37,943 think their 10056 02:11:37,943 --> 02:11:38,811 market rates 10057 02:11:38,811 --> 02:11:39,145 . You 10058 02:11:39,145 --> 02:11:39,678 know, I 10059 02:11:39,678 --> 02:11:40,980 don't intend to 10060 02:11:40,980 --> 02:11:41,380 for you 10061 02:11:41,380 --> 02:11:41,780 all to 10062 02:11:41,780 --> 02:11:43,449 support them 10063 02:11:43,449 --> 02:11:43,916 for forever 10064 02:11:43,916 --> 02:11:45,751 um 10065 02:11:45,751 --> 02:11:45,951 . But 10066 02:11:45,951 --> 02:11:46,452 I 10067 02:11:46,452 --> 02:11:46,885 think for, for this, 10068 02:11:46,885 --> 02:11:47,887 at least for 10069 02:11:47,887 --> 02:11:48,187 the next month or 10070 02:11:48,187 --> 02:11:48,821 two 10071 02:11:48,821 --> 02:11:49,989 they they have 10072 02:11:49,989 --> 02:11:50,155 some 10073 02:11:50,155 --> 02:11:50,723 files 10074 02:11:50,723 --> 02:11:51,230 and they're certainly doing 10075 02:11:51,230 --> 02:11:52,391 some 10076 02:11:52,391 --> 02:11:52,792 , some good work and 10077 02:11:52,792 --> 02:11:53,426 helping me 10078 02:11:53,426 --> 02:11:54,460 out with 10079 02:11:54,460 --> 02:11:55,600 uh getting 10080 02:11:55,600 --> 02:11:55,694 me up to speed on 10081 02:11:55,694 --> 02:11:56,280 certain 10082 02:11:56,280 --> 02:11:56,795 projects 10083 02:11:56,795 --> 02:11:57,163 and 10084 02:11:57,163 --> 02:11:57,696 um I 10085 02:11:57,696 --> 02:11:58,630 think it'd be 10086 02:11:58,630 --> 02:12:00,630 well worth 10087 02:12:01,867 --> 02:12:02,334 uh, my time and 10088 02:12:02,334 --> 02:12:04,334 , and 10089 02:12:04,503 --> 02:12:05,905 your support to enter into this 10090 02:12:05,905 --> 02:12:06,138 agreement. Oh, I 10091 02:12:06,138 --> 02:12:06,806 will only 10092 02:12:06,806 --> 02:12:07,173 agree to this if you get a new 10093 02:12:07,173 --> 02:12:08,941 placard 10094 02:12:08,941 --> 02:12:10,142 . Yeah 10095 02:12:10,142 --> 02:12:10,276 , I already 10096 02:12:10,276 --> 02:12:10,910 gave 10097 02:12:10,910 --> 02:12:13,310 Tris a hard time 10098 02:12:14,914 --> 02:12:15,447 about that, of 10099 02:12:15,447 --> 02:12:15,815 course, I just had 10100 02:12:15,815 --> 02:12:16,882 a question 10101 02:12:16,882 --> 02:12:17,149 , 10102 02:12:17,149 --> 02:12:17,717 um 10103 02:12:17,717 --> 02:12:19,352 . So 10104 02:12:19,352 --> 02:12:19,819 , uh, do you have 10105 02:12:19,819 --> 02:12:20,186 , uh, an 10106 02:12:20,186 --> 02:12:21,454 idea of 10107 02:12:21,454 --> 02:12:21,855 how long 10108 02:12:21,855 --> 02:12:22,188 you 10109 02:12:22,188 --> 02:12:22,328 think 10110 02:12:22,328 --> 02:12:22,722 this 10111 02:12:22,722 --> 02:12:24,240 agreement 10112 02:12:24,240 --> 02:12:26,240 will last 10113 02:12:26,259 --> 02:12:26,592 for years 10114 02:12:26,592 --> 02:12:26,826 just 10115 02:12:26,826 --> 02:12:27,293 in 10116 02:12:27,293 --> 02:12:28,127 general, you 10117 02:12:28,127 --> 02:12:28,628 were 10118 02:12:28,628 --> 02:12:28,862 asking for a month 10119 02:12:28,862 --> 02:12:29,195 or 10120 02:12:29,195 --> 02:12:29,428 two 10121 02:12:29,428 --> 02:12:29,730 . I 10122 02:12:29,730 --> 02:12:30,963 would 10123 02:12:30,963 --> 02:12:31,665 expect 3 or 4 10124 02:12:31,665 --> 02:12:32,899 , yeah 10125 02:12:32,899 --> 02:12:33,633 , 10126 02:12:33,633 --> 02:12:33,899 hopefully diminishing over time 10127 02:12:33,899 --> 02:12:34,267 Yes 10128 02:12:34,267 --> 02:12:35,102 , yes, sir 10129 02:12:35,102 --> 02:12:35,468 . Yes 10130 02:12:35,468 --> 02:12:35,736 , yes 10131 02:12:35,736 --> 02:12:36,269 , and 10132 02:12:36,269 --> 02:12:36,535 yes, as you take 10133 02:12:36,535 --> 02:12:37,337 on 10134 02:12:37,337 --> 02:12:37,803 more 10135 02:12:37,803 --> 02:12:38,604 responsibility 10136 02:12:38,604 --> 02:12:39,539 and 10137 02:12:39,539 --> 02:12:39,705 transition 10138 02:12:39,705 --> 02:12:39,972 . 10139 02:12:39,972 --> 02:12:40,439 Yes 10140 02:12:40,439 --> 02:12:40,840 . So they had 10141 02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:41,400 a month or 10142 02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:41,307 two 10143 02:12:41,307 --> 02:12:42,800 was 10144 02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:42,542 a 10145 02:12:42,542 --> 02:12:43,410 little 10146 02:12:43,410 --> 02:12:45,278 short 10147 02:12:45,278 --> 02:12:45,745 right 10148 02:12:45,745 --> 02:12:46,279 . What 10149 02:12:46,279 --> 02:12:46,813 I 10150 02:12:46,813 --> 02:12:47,146 would say 3 10151 02:12:47,146 --> 02:12:47,813 or 10152 02:12:47,813 --> 02:12:47,972 4 diminishing 10153 02:12:47,972 --> 02:12:48,315 . 10154 02:12:48,315 --> 02:12:49,182 Of course 10155 02:12:49,182 --> 02:12:49,716 . I think that's fair. 10156 02:12:49,716 --> 02:12:50,950 Fewer hours as we 10157 02:12:50,950 --> 02:12:51,417 Yes 10158 02:12:51,417 --> 02:12:53,219 , I 10159 02:12:53,219 --> 02:12:54,120 approved 10160 02:12:54,120 --> 02:12:55,521 select b is a 10161 02:12:55,521 --> 02:12:55,989 motion 10162 02:12:55,989 --> 02:12:56,289 from Rudy in a 10163 02:12:56,289 --> 02:12:56,622 second from 10164 02:12:56,622 --> 02:12:58,570 Kimberly 10165 02:12:58,570 --> 02:12:58,357 . You still can't get 10166 02:12:58,357 --> 02:12:59,992 it 10167 02:12:59,992 --> 02:13:01,992 fast enough 10168 02:13:06,833 --> 02:13:07,835 . Motion 10169 02:13:07,835 --> 02:13:08,267 passes 10170 02:13:08,267 --> 02:13:09,135 unanimously 10171 02:13:09,135 --> 02:13:09,536 that 10172 02:13:09,536 --> 02:13:09,936 takes us to 10173 02:13:09,936 --> 02:13:10,370 the end of 10174 02:13:10,370 --> 02:13:11,237 our agenda. We 10175 02:13:11,237 --> 02:13:11,605 will 10176 02:13:11,605 --> 02:13:11,871 circle 10177 02:13:11,871 --> 02:13:12,138 back 10178 02:13:12,138 --> 02:13:12,405 along 10179 02:13:12,405 --> 02:13:13,606 item 10180 02:13:13,606 --> 02:13:13,806 92 10181 02:13:13,806 --> 02:13:14,307 items 10182 02:13:14,307 --> 02:13:15,909 pulled from the 10183 02:13:15,909 --> 02:13:16,175 consent agenda 10184 02:13:16,175 --> 02:13:16,442 , 10185 02:13:16,442 --> 02:13:17,760 item 10186 02:13:17,760 --> 02:13:18,378 number 10187 02:13:18,378 --> 02:13:19,679 5b approving of 10188 02:13:19,679 --> 02:13:20,847 professional services contract 10189 02:13:20,847 --> 02:13:21,147 with wsb 10190 02:13:21,147 --> 02:13:21,481 in the 10191 02:13:21,481 --> 02:13:22,482 amount 10192 02:13:22,482 --> 02:13:24,482 of 10193 02:13:25,285 --> 02:13:25,785 $156,136 to 10194 02:13:25,785 --> 02:13:26,286 provide 10195 02:13:26,286 --> 02:13:26,787 facilitation and 10196 02:13:26,787 --> 02:13:27,887 technical 10197 02:13:27,887 --> 02:13:28,421 advisory services for 10198 02:13:28,421 --> 02:13:29,222 consideration of 10199 02:13:29,222 --> 02:13:29,722 a 10200 02:13:29,722 --> 02:13:30,189 2026 10201 02:13:30,189 --> 02:13:30,790 bond 10202 02:13:30,790 --> 02:13:31,325 program 10203 02:13:31,325 --> 02:13:31,691 and authorizing the 10204 02:13:31,691 --> 02:13:32,158 city 10205 02:13:32,158 --> 02:13:32,759 manager 10206 02:13:32,759 --> 02:13:33,590 to execute the 10207 02:13:33,590 --> 02:13:35,590 same 10208 02:13:35,995 --> 02:13:36,663 . Um, the 10209 02:13:36,663 --> 02:13:37,630 , uh, this was, I 10210 02:13:37,630 --> 02:13:38,998 believe 10211 02:13:38,998 --> 02:13:40,935 , pulled by Mr 10212 02:13:40,935 --> 02:13:41,368 . Rogers 10213 02:13:41,368 --> 02:13:43,103 Rogers. Yeah 10214 02:13:43,103 --> 02:13:43,336 . So 10215 02:13:43,336 --> 02:13:45,336 , uh 10216 02:13:47,307 --> 02:13:47,975 uh, it, 10217 02:13:47,975 --> 02:13:48,208 it's been a while since we had 10218 02:13:48,208 --> 02:13:49,776 a 10219 02:13:49,776 --> 02:13:50,430 bond committee 10220 02:13:50,430 --> 02:13:50,510 . It 10221 02:13:50,510 --> 02:13:51,611 , it 10222 02:13:51,611 --> 02:13:51,912 seems 10223 02:13:51,912 --> 02:13:52,379 like 10224 02:13:52,379 --> 02:13:52,846 , uh, the scope 10225 02:13:52,846 --> 02:13:54,846 of services 10226 02:13:55,416 --> 02:13:56,683 uh, is a little 10227 02:13:56,683 --> 02:13:57,610 larger and 10228 02:13:57,610 --> 02:13:57,211 the 10229 02:13:57,211 --> 02:13:58,651 cost 10230 02:13:58,651 --> 02:13:59,353 is substantially larger 10231 02:13:59,353 --> 02:13:59,986 than last time. Maybe I'm 10232 02:13:59,986 --> 02:14:01,210 remembering that wrong 10233 02:14:01,210 --> 02:14:01,388 , but I'd 10234 02:14:01,388 --> 02:14:01,888 like to 10235 02:14:01,888 --> 02:14:02,722 . I like to have 10236 02:14:02,722 --> 02:14:03,456 a 10237 02:14:03,456 --> 02:14:05,456 presentation about that 10238 02:14:10,530 --> 02:14:11,310 . Good 10239 02:14:11,310 --> 02:14:12,299 evening, Mayor 10240 02:14:12,299 --> 02:14:12,632 and council for 10241 02:14:12,632 --> 02:14:13,166 the 10242 02:14:13,166 --> 02:14:14,300 engagement Services 10243 02:14:14,300 --> 02:14:14,968 with 10244 02:14:14,968 --> 02:14:15,133 wsb. It is a little, it 10245 02:14:15,133 --> 02:14:15,602 is 10246 02:14:15,602 --> 02:14:17,137 different than 10247 02:14:17,137 --> 02:14:17,738 the last time we 10248 02:14:17,738 --> 02:14:18,380 used a, a 10249 02:14:18,380 --> 02:14:19,339 bond 10250 02:14:19,339 --> 02:14:19,807 consultant. Last 10251 02:14:19,807 --> 02:14:20,240 time it was 10252 02:14:20,240 --> 02:14:20,607 strictly for 10253 02:14:20,607 --> 02:14:21,708 hosting 10254 02:14:21,708 --> 02:14:22,800 the bond Committee 10255 02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:22,609 , the 10256 02:14:22,609 --> 02:14:23,543 scope of services 10257 02:14:23,543 --> 02:14:24,411 is 10258 02:14:24,411 --> 02:14:24,778 larger and 10259 02:14:24,778 --> 02:14:25,178 it's the 10260 02:14:25,178 --> 02:14:25,980 committee and 10261 02:14:25,980 --> 02:14:26,713 council 10262 02:14:26,713 --> 02:14:27,380 then recommends going to an 10263 02:14:27,380 --> 02:14:27,615 election that they would help 10264 02:14:27,615 --> 02:14:28,315 us 10265 02:14:28,315 --> 02:14:28,782 through 10266 02:14:28,782 --> 02:14:29,382 communication 10267 02:14:29,382 --> 02:14:29,916 and 10268 02:14:29,916 --> 02:14:30,350 engagement, which 10269 02:14:30,350 --> 02:14:30,685 is a 10270 02:14:30,685 --> 02:14:31,285 larger 10271 02:14:31,285 --> 02:14:31,618 part of the scope 10272 02:14:31,618 --> 02:14:31,952 and 10273 02:14:31,952 --> 02:14:32,285 not 10274 02:14:32,285 --> 02:14:32,753 included 10275 02:14:32,753 --> 02:14:33,286 from 10276 02:14:33,286 --> 02:14:34,200 last time 10277 02:14:34,200 --> 02:14:34,287 , um, to 10278 02:14:34,287 --> 02:14:34,521 get 10279 02:14:34,521 --> 02:14:34,988 us 10280 02:14:34,988 --> 02:14:35,655 to 10281 02:14:35,655 --> 02:14:36,256 that election 10282 02:14:36,256 --> 02:14:36,623 , um, in 10283 02:14:36,623 --> 02:14:38,623 NOVEMBER 10284 02:14:42,229 --> 02:14:43,663 . While you 10285 02:14:43,663 --> 02:14:44,980 ponder that 10286 02:14:44,980 --> 02:14:44,698 can I ask 10287 02:14:44,698 --> 02:14:45,832 , um, what 10288 02:14:45,832 --> 02:14:46,667 was the 10289 02:14:46,667 --> 02:14:47,330 amount included in the budget 10290 02:14:47,330 --> 02:14:49,330 for this 10291 02:14:49,202 --> 02:14:51,202 um services originally 10292 02:14:51,538 --> 02:14:52,740 Um, we have, we 10293 02:14:52,740 --> 02:14:53,600 had initially 10294 02:14:53,600 --> 02:14:53,440 an 10295 02:14:53,440 --> 02:14:55,242 estimated 10296 02:14:55,242 --> 02:14:56,109 100,000 10297 02:14:56,109 --> 02:14:57,511 , um, we're 10298 02:14:57,511 --> 02:14:57,978 utilizing portions because the 10299 02:14:57,978 --> 02:14:59,379 bulk of it's 10300 02:14:59,379 --> 02:14:59,814 from 10301 02:14:59,814 --> 02:15:00,800 transportation 10302 02:15:00,800 --> 02:15:00,548 , um, a 10303 02:15:00,548 --> 02:15:01,615 transportation 10304 02:15:01,615 --> 02:15:02,116 professional 10305 02:15:02,116 --> 02:15:02,583 services and 10306 02:15:02,583 --> 02:15:03,985 the bond count 10307 02:15:03,985 --> 02:15:04,384 , 10308 02:15:04,384 --> 02:15:06,353 the bonds 10309 02:15:06,353 --> 02:15:06,820 , um, estimate from 10310 02:15:06,820 --> 02:15:07,255 other 10311 02:15:07,255 --> 02:15:07,554 professional services 10312 02:15:07,554 --> 02:15:08,755 from 10313 02:15:08,755 --> 02:15:09,900 city managers budget 10314 02:15:09,900 --> 02:15:09,590 line 10315 02:15:09,590 --> 02:15:10,958 item. Ok 10316 02:15:10,958 --> 02:15:11,358 , so 100 10317 02:15:11,358 --> 02:15:11,758 from 10318 02:15:11,758 --> 02:15:12,159 cmo and 10319 02:15:12,159 --> 02:15:12,826 50 10320 02:15:12,826 --> 02:15:13,193 from transportation It's a 10321 02:15:13,193 --> 02:15:13,560 100, I 10322 02:15:13,560 --> 02:15:15,295 think it's 10323 02:15:15,295 --> 02:15:16,363 actually 1011 10324 02:15:16,363 --> 02:15:16,797 from transportation and 10325 02:15:16,797 --> 02:15:18,310 the 10326 02:15:18,310 --> 02:15:19,833 balance from cno 10327 02:15:19,833 --> 02:15:20,400 . Um, so can 10328 02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:21,902 you explain to 10329 02:15:21,902 --> 02:15:22,436 me what 10330 02:15:22,436 --> 02:15:22,803 , uh, 10331 02:15:22,803 --> 02:15:24,370 what, what 10332 02:15:24,370 --> 02:15:24,738 we're talking about 10333 02:15:24,738 --> 02:15:26,340 when we're talking about 10334 02:15:26,340 --> 02:15:27,740 uh uh 10335 02:15:27,740 --> 02:15:28,308 communication and engagement 10336 02:15:28,308 --> 02:15:29,760 . 10337 02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:29,610 Sure, it's important to be sure 10338 02:15:29,610 --> 02:15:31,780 to be sure that 10339 02:15:31,780 --> 02:15:31,812 the community 10340 02:15:31,812 --> 02:15:32,790 knows what's coming before you, 10341 02:15:32,790 --> 02:15:33,347 as 10342 02:15:33,347 --> 02:15:33,614 you mentioned, that's a, 10343 02:15:33,614 --> 02:15:34,810 what 10344 02:15:34,810 --> 02:15:35,315 those 10345 02:15:35,315 --> 02:15:35,482 projects 10346 02:15:35,482 --> 02:15:36,183 are is 10347 02:15:36,183 --> 02:15:36,483 important to be able to 10348 02:15:36,483 --> 02:15:38,385 convey 10349 02:15:38,385 --> 02:15:38,685 accurate information and so 10350 02:15:38,685 --> 02:15:40,200 being 10351 02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:40,421 able to have a 10352 02:15:40,421 --> 02:15:41,255 good 10353 02:15:41,255 --> 02:15:42,322 communications plan, how, how 10354 02:15:42,322 --> 02:15:42,990 we 10355 02:15:42,990 --> 02:15:43,290 communicate that and engage 10356 02:15:43,290 --> 02:15:43,891 with 10357 02:15:43,891 --> 02:15:44,458 the public. Um 10358 02:15:44,458 --> 02:15:44,625 prior 10359 02:15:44,625 --> 02:15:44,925 to 10360 02:15:44,925 --> 02:15:46,930 that 10361 02:15:46,930 --> 02:15:47,127 , um, election 10362 02:15:47,127 --> 02:15:47,494 is important 10363 02:15:47,494 --> 02:15:48,129 And 10364 02:15:48,129 --> 02:15:48,429 so they're gonna help us 10365 02:15:48,429 --> 02:15:49,263 with 10366 02:15:49,263 --> 02:15:49,864 that 10367 02:15:49,864 --> 02:15:50,200 plan and we're 10368 02:15:50,200 --> 02:15:50,598 not 10369 02:15:50,598 --> 02:15:51,165 sure what that looks like and 10370 02:15:51,165 --> 02:15:51,632 they're gonna help 10371 02:15:51,632 --> 02:15:52,199 us 10372 02:15:52,199 --> 02:15:52,399 on that 10373 02:15:52,399 --> 02:15:52,666 . 10374 02:15:52,666 --> 02:15:53,100 Has 10375 02:15:53,100 --> 02:15:53,667 that been 10376 02:15:53,667 --> 02:15:53,834 a problem in 10377 02:15:53,834 --> 02:15:54,134 the 10378 02:15:54,134 --> 02:15:54,568 past 10379 02:15:54,568 --> 02:15:55,690 ? I mean 10380 02:15:55,690 --> 02:15:55,402 , why do 10381 02:15:55,402 --> 02:15:56,470 we need 10382 02:15:56,470 --> 02:15:57,271 an 10383 02:15:57,271 --> 02:15:57,838 outside services on that. It 10384 02:15:57,838 --> 02:15:58,339 , 10385 02:15:58,339 --> 02:15:58,839 it seems to me 10386 02:15:58,839 --> 02:16:00,541 that we, we need 10387 02:16:00,541 --> 02:16:00,741 some staff support 10388 02:16:00,741 --> 02:16:01,308 for this 10389 02:16:01,308 --> 02:16:02,677 project. We, we 10390 02:16:02,677 --> 02:16:03,110 have 10391 02:16:03,110 --> 02:16:03,945 , uh, we 10392 02:16:03,945 --> 02:16:05,579 have several positions down at 10393 02:16:05,579 --> 02:16:05,913 the moment, and it's a heavy 10394 02:16:05,913 --> 02:16:06,146 lift 10395 02:16:06,146 --> 02:16:07,315 to 10396 02:16:07,315 --> 02:16:07,682 carry a 10397 02:16:07,682 --> 02:16:07,948 potential 10398 02:16:07,948 --> 02:16:08,449 bond 10399 02:16:08,449 --> 02:16:09,817 project or 10400 02:16:09,817 --> 02:16:10,150 bond package that is 10401 02:16:10,150 --> 02:16:10,417 this 10402 02:16:10,417 --> 02:16:10,751 large 10403 02:16:10,751 --> 02:16:11,685 . As I 10404 02:16:11,685 --> 02:16:12,152 , as 10405 02:16:12,152 --> 02:16:12,386 I imagine, 10406 02:16:12,386 --> 02:16:14,386 uh 10407 02:16:14,822 --> 02:16:16,190 . The, uh, the 10408 02:16:16,190 --> 02:16:16,591 , the skill 10409 02:16:16,591 --> 02:16:16,890 set 10410 02:16:16,890 --> 02:16:18,859 of 10411 02:16:18,859 --> 02:16:19,127 creating the 10412 02:16:19,127 --> 02:16:19,493 information 10413 02:16:19,493 --> 02:16:20,461 related 10414 02:16:20,461 --> 02:16:20,761 to 10415 02:16:20,761 --> 02:16:20,995 this 10416 02:16:20,995 --> 02:16:21,295 and 10417 02:16:21,295 --> 02:16:21,461 and 10418 02:16:21,461 --> 02:16:21,863 um 10419 02:16:21,863 --> 02:16:22,930 ensuring that 10420 02:16:22,930 --> 02:16:23,230 thats 10421 02:16:23,230 --> 02:16:23,964 properly 10422 02:16:23,964 --> 02:16:25,132 communicated because as we 10423 02:16:25,132 --> 02:16:25,499 know 10424 02:16:25,499 --> 02:16:25,766 the 10425 02:16:25,766 --> 02:16:27,766 city 10426 02:16:27,802 --> 02:16:28,102 cannot advocate in 10427 02:16:28,102 --> 02:16:28,669 an 10428 02:16:28,669 --> 02:16:29,870 election. Um 10429 02:16:29,870 --> 02:16:30,337 , and we want to 10430 02:16:30,337 --> 02:16:30,704 make 10431 02:16:30,704 --> 02:16:30,971 sure that 10432 02:16:30,971 --> 02:16:32,730 , that 10433 02:16:32,730 --> 02:16:32,373 we 10434 02:16:32,373 --> 02:16:33,207 have 10435 02:16:33,207 --> 02:16:33,874 professionals who do this. We 10436 02:16:33,874 --> 02:16:34,709 haven't done 10437 02:16:34,709 --> 02:16:34,909 this in 10438 02:16:34,909 --> 02:16:35,376 6 10439 02:16:35,376 --> 02:16:36,177 years 10440 02:16:36,177 --> 02:16:36,477 . 10441 02:16:36,477 --> 02:16:36,910 Uh, so 10442 02:16:36,910 --> 02:16:37,378 we want to 10443 02:16:37,378 --> 02:16:37,645 make sure we 10444 02:16:37,645 --> 02:16:38,790 do 10445 02:16:38,790 --> 02:16:39,613 it right 10446 02:16:39,613 --> 02:16:40,150 , um, I 10447 02:16:40,150 --> 02:16:40,514 , I 10448 02:16:40,514 --> 02:16:41,616 , I would 10449 02:16:41,616 --> 02:16:42,490 just ask 10450 02:16:42,490 --> 02:16:42,416 , you know 10451 02:16:42,416 --> 02:16:42,683 , can 10452 02:16:42,683 --> 02:16:43,150 our 10453 02:16:43,150 --> 02:16:43,985 communication 10454 02:16:43,985 --> 02:16:44,352 staff, are they 10455 02:16:44,352 --> 02:16:45,486 properly 10456 02:16:45,486 --> 02:16:45,987 staffed and 10457 02:16:45,987 --> 02:16:46,320 trained to 10458 02:16:46,320 --> 02:16:47,755 perform 10459 02:16:47,755 --> 02:16:48,556 this type of activity, 10460 02:16:48,556 --> 02:16:49,925 or is this something that only 10461 02:16:49,925 --> 02:16:50,558 happens every 10462 02:16:50,558 --> 02:16:51,792 . 6 or 10463 02:16:51,792 --> 02:16:52,226 8 10464 02:16:52,226 --> 02:16:52,960 years and 10465 02:16:52,960 --> 02:16:54,829 and we're gonna need to bring 10466 02:16:54,829 --> 02:16:55,620 in outside professionals 10467 02:16:55,620 --> 02:16:55,496 . Uh, 10468 02:16:55,496 --> 02:16:56,831 well, we're 10469 02:16:56,831 --> 02:16:57,398 , we're down in our, 10470 02:16:57,398 --> 02:16:58,733 on our comms team 10471 02:16:58,733 --> 02:16:59,467 , and I think 10472 02:16:59,467 --> 02:17:00,100 that this, this helps to 10473 02:17:00,100 --> 02:17:01,435 they'll, of course 10474 02:17:01,435 --> 02:17:02,536 , be part of 10475 02:17:02,536 --> 02:17:03,371 that collaboration 10476 02:17:03,371 --> 02:17:03,705 , as with 10477 02:17:03,705 --> 02:17:04,438 our 10478 02:17:04,438 --> 02:17:05,740 transportation, our parks, and 10479 02:17:05,740 --> 02:17:06,340 our other 10480 02:17:06,340 --> 02:17:06,874 staff. This, this 10481 02:17:06,874 --> 02:17:07,808 really helps 10482 02:17:07,808 --> 02:17:08,442 us to 10483 02:17:08,442 --> 02:17:08,743 fully put 10484 02:17:08,743 --> 02:17:10,378 this 10485 02:17:10,378 --> 02:17:10,645 picture together 10486 02:17:10,645 --> 02:17:10,878 and 10487 02:17:10,878 --> 02:17:12,878 can 10488 02:17:12,914 --> 02:17:13,448 properly convey information to 10489 02:17:13,448 --> 02:17:14,415 the bond Committee 10490 02:17:14,415 --> 02:17:14,615 and 10491 02:17:14,615 --> 02:17:15,283 then 10492 02:17:15,283 --> 02:17:15,817 potentially then to the public 10493 02:17:15,817 --> 02:17:16,751 as it moves forward 10494 02:17:16,751 --> 02:17:17,510 . I think 10495 02:17:17,510 --> 02:17:17,585 it's a 10496 02:17:17,585 --> 02:17:18,520 really important point 10497 02:17:18,520 --> 02:17:19,287 that you brought 10498 02:17:19,287 --> 02:17:20,254 up regarding 10499 02:17:20,254 --> 02:17:21,189 the current, um, status 10500 02:17:21,189 --> 02:17:21,522 for 10501 02:17:21,522 --> 02:17:22,290 our 10502 02:17:22,290 --> 02:17:22,490 comms team. It's 10503 02:17:22,490 --> 02:17:22,957 so 10504 02:17:22,957 --> 02:17:23,925 consequently, we 10505 02:17:23,925 --> 02:17:24,660 want to make 10506 02:17:24,660 --> 02:17:24,826 sure that we put our best 10507 02:17:24,826 --> 02:17:25,493 foot 10508 02:17:25,493 --> 02:17:26,395 forward and make sure 10509 02:17:26,395 --> 02:17:28,395 that we 10510 02:17:29,130 --> 02:17:29,597 , 10511 02:17:29,597 --> 02:17:30,898 uh, uh, maybe 10512 02:17:30,898 --> 02:17:31,799 not eliminate 10513 02:17:31,799 --> 02:17:32,100 , 10514 02:17:32,100 --> 02:17:32,500 but 10515 02:17:32,500 --> 02:17:33,201 hopefully 10516 02:17:33,201 --> 02:17:33,968 miniate any 10517 02:17:33,968 --> 02:17:34,402 issues or concerns that 10518 02:17:34,402 --> 02:17:35,300 MAY 10519 02:17:35,300 --> 02:17:36,205 happen 10520 02:17:36,205 --> 02:17:36,571 regarding 10521 02:17:36,571 --> 02:17:37,672 our um 10522 02:17:37,672 --> 02:17:37,905 conversations with the 10523 02:17:37,905 --> 02:17:38,406 public 10524 02:17:38,406 --> 02:17:38,773 and community at large 10525 02:17:38,773 --> 02:17:39,975 regarding 10526 02:17:39,975 --> 02:17:40,208 some of the 10527 02:17:40,208 --> 02:17:40,809 effective 10528 02:17:40,809 --> 02:17:41,943 tools and aspects 10529 02:17:41,943 --> 02:17:42,577 and frankly 10530 02:17:42,577 --> 02:17:42,877 what we're trying to get done 10531 02:17:42,877 --> 02:17:44,279 here 10532 02:17:44,279 --> 02:17:44,646 . So, and 10533 02:17:44,646 --> 02:17:45,246 , and two, is it 10534 02:17:45,246 --> 02:17:46,315 important to have a 10535 02:17:46,315 --> 02:17:47,810 , a 10536 02:17:47,810 --> 02:17:47,782 consultant that does, that has 10537 02:17:47,782 --> 02:17:48,516 done this for other cities 10538 02:17:48,516 --> 02:17:49,170 . 10539 02:17:49,170 --> 02:17:49,551 They have 10540 02:17:49,551 --> 02:17:49,851 different approaches. 10541 02:17:49,851 --> 02:17:50,852 We, we 10542 02:17:50,852 --> 02:17:51,119 do this 10543 02:17:51,119 --> 02:17:51,586 once 10544 02:17:51,586 --> 02:17:51,953 every 5 to 10545 02:17:51,953 --> 02:17:53,187 6 years 10546 02:17:53,187 --> 02:17:53,655 . And so 10547 02:17:53,655 --> 02:17:54,355 bringing on 10548 02:17:54,355 --> 02:17:55,490 someone who has that 10549 02:17:55,490 --> 02:17:55,691 lens 10550 02:17:55,691 --> 02:17:56,291 and 10551 02:17:56,291 --> 02:17:56,625 experience in it 10552 02:17:56,625 --> 02:17:56,891 , we believe 10553 02:17:56,891 --> 02:17:57,659 will 10554 02:17:57,659 --> 02:17:58,126 be very 10555 02:17:58,126 --> 02:17:58,826 helpful to 10556 02:17:58,826 --> 02:17:59,395 this 10557 02:17:59,395 --> 02:18:01,290 process 10558 02:18:01,290 --> 02:18:01,863 . Isn't 10559 02:18:01,863 --> 02:18:02,497 I I 10560 02:18:02,497 --> 02:18:03,398 understand 10561 02:18:03,398 --> 02:18:03,698 our comms team is down a little 10562 02:18:03,698 --> 02:18:04,432 bit 10563 02:18:04,432 --> 02:18:04,966 , but 10564 02:18:04,966 --> 02:18:05,300 even down 10565 02:18:05,300 --> 02:18:05,633 , aren't 10566 02:18:05,633 --> 02:18:06,201 there 10567 02:18:06,201 --> 02:18:07,350 , aren't we have more 10568 02:18:07,350 --> 02:18:07,469 people in comms now than we did 10569 02:18:07,469 --> 02:18:09,469 6 years ago 10570 02:18:09,905 --> 02:18:10,872 ? I don't 10571 02:18:10,872 --> 02:18:11,800 , I 10572 02:18:11,800 --> 02:18:11,740 don't 10573 02:18:11,740 --> 02:18:12,140 compare the numbers. I imagine 10574 02:18:12,140 --> 02:18:13,441 we might. Um 10575 02:18:13,441 --> 02:18:13,708 , we have a 10576 02:18:13,708 --> 02:18:14,176 lot 10577 02:18:14,176 --> 02:18:15,910 going on 10578 02:18:15,910 --> 02:18:16,311 , um, across the city 10579 02:18:16,311 --> 02:18:17,746 in which, in 10580 02:18:17,746 --> 02:18:18,460 which 10581 02:18:18,460 --> 02:18:18,680 they 10582 02:18:18,680 --> 02:18:18,913 communicate out 10583 02:18:18,913 --> 02:18:19,347 really 10584 02:18:19,347 --> 02:18:20,248 effectively 10585 02:18:20,248 --> 02:18:20,849 and so we wanna 10586 02:18:20,849 --> 02:18:21,182 make sure that 10587 02:18:21,182 --> 02:18:21,367 all those 10588 02:18:21,367 --> 02:18:21,749 , all 10589 02:18:21,749 --> 02:18:22,618 the things 10590 02:18:22,618 --> 02:18:23,151 we already have 10591 02:18:23,151 --> 02:18:23,651 going on 10592 02:18:23,651 --> 02:18:24,552 , continue 10593 02:18:24,552 --> 02:18:24,887 to 10594 02:18:24,887 --> 02:18:25,453 remain 10595 02:18:25,453 --> 02:18:25,687 successful while we 10596 02:18:25,687 --> 02:18:26,550 add 10597 02:18:26,550 --> 02:18:27,550 on 10598 02:18:27,550 --> 02:18:27,756 to 10599 02:18:27,756 --> 02:18:28,657 everyone's plate 10600 02:18:28,657 --> 02:18:28,990 , um, was, 10601 02:18:28,990 --> 02:18:29,491 we're 10602 02:18:29,491 --> 02:18:29,824 expecting 10603 02:18:29,824 --> 02:18:30,258 to 10604 02:18:30,258 --> 02:18:30,725 fill 10605 02:18:30,725 --> 02:18:31,293 those 10606 02:18:31,293 --> 02:18:31,659 empty spots 10607 02:18:31,659 --> 02:18:32,270 and comps 10608 02:18:32,270 --> 02:18:32,695 , right 10609 02:18:32,695 --> 02:18:33,161 ? 10610 02:18:33,161 --> 02:18:34,229 Absolutely. That 10611 02:18:34,229 --> 02:18:35,297 does take time 10612 02:18:35,297 --> 02:18:36,131 COUNCILMAN Rogers, are you 10613 02:18:36,131 --> 02:18:36,831 suggesting we increase the 10614 02:18:36,831 --> 02:18:37,980 headcount of our internal coms 10615 02:18:37,980 --> 02:18:38,900 team 10616 02:18:38,900 --> 02:18:40,635 . I'm sorry. Are you 10617 02:18:40,635 --> 02:18:41,336 suggesting that we increase the 10618 02:18:41,336 --> 02:18:42,538 headcount of our internal 10619 02:18:42,538 --> 02:18:43,571 coms 10620 02:18:43,571 --> 02:18:45,473 team. Uh, well 10621 02:18:45,473 --> 02:18:46,141 , we have um we 10622 02:18:46,141 --> 02:18:47,742 have unfilled positions 10623 02:18:47,742 --> 02:18:49,277 Uh 10624 02:18:49,277 --> 02:18:49,678 , uh, 10625 02:18:49,678 --> 02:18:50,780 and their 10626 02:18:50,780 --> 02:18:50,378 budgeted already, so 10627 02:18:50,378 --> 02:18:51,680 I'm 10628 02:18:51,680 --> 02:18:52,380 , you know 10629 02:18:52,380 --> 02:18:53,849 , why 10630 02:18:53,849 --> 02:18:54,382 are we 10631 02:18:54,382 --> 02:18:54,850 spending the same 10632 02:18:54,850 --> 02:18:56,218 money 10633 02:18:56,218 --> 02:18:56,374 twice 10634 02:18:56,374 --> 02:18:56,585 . 10635 02:18:56,585 --> 02:18:57,352 It 10636 02:18:57,352 --> 02:18:58,620 , it's not, it's 10637 02:18:58,620 --> 02:18:59,488 the fright. 10638 02:18:59,488 --> 02:19:00,355 That's a component of this 10639 02:19:00,355 --> 02:19:01,220 , 10640 02:19:01,220 --> 02:19:01,423 right, that they're gonna bring 10641 02:19:01,423 --> 02:19:01,990 a whole lot 10642 02:19:01,990 --> 02:19:02,958 of other experience 10643 02:19:02,958 --> 02:19:03,525 That's 10644 02:19:03,525 --> 02:19:03,925 one 10645 02:19:03,925 --> 02:19:04,590 element 10646 02:19:04,590 --> 02:19:04,459 is 10647 02:19:04,459 --> 02:19:05,360 engagement 10648 02:19:05,360 --> 02:19:07,360 . They'll 10649 02:19:07,529 --> 02:19:07,863 , they 10650 02:19:07,863 --> 02:19:08,597 cover 10651 02:19:08,597 --> 02:19:09,970 understanding engineering, 10652 02:19:09,970 --> 02:19:09,598 communicating the 10653 02:19:09,598 --> 02:19:10,165 bond 10654 02:19:10,165 --> 02:19:10,432 committees, looking 10655 02:19:10,432 --> 02:19:10,932 at 10656 02:19:10,932 --> 02:19:11,466 projects 10657 02:19:11,466 --> 02:19:12,334 considering 10658 02:19:12,334 --> 02:19:14,102 the cip as a whole 10659 02:19:14,102 --> 02:19:14,770 . 10660 02:19:14,770 --> 02:19:15,137 And then comes as a component 10661 02:19:15,137 --> 02:19:16,371 of that 10662 02:19:16,371 --> 02:19:17,139 as we, as we get 10663 02:19:17,139 --> 02:19:17,506 towards the end and towards an 10664 02:19:17,506 --> 02:19:19,375 election 10665 02:19:19,375 --> 02:19:21,209 . So I have a couple of 10666 02:19:21,209 --> 02:19:23,209 questions. Um 10667 02:19:23,312 --> 02:19:23,646 , so 10668 02:19:23,646 --> 02:19:24,790 what we're 10669 02:19:24,790 --> 02:19:25,213 talking about 10670 02:19:25,213 --> 02:19:25,447 right 10671 02:19:25,447 --> 02:19:25,681 now 10672 02:19:25,681 --> 02:19:25,915 is 10673 02:19:25,915 --> 02:19:26,148 task 10674 02:19:26,148 --> 02:19:27,516 3 10675 02:19:27,516 --> 02:19:27,816 about 10676 02:19:27,816 --> 02:19:28,584 proposition 10677 02:19:28,584 --> 02:19:29,885 communications, and that 10678 02:19:29,885 --> 02:19:30,185 task 10679 02:19:30,185 --> 02:19:30,686 is 10680 02:19:30,686 --> 02:19:32,200 only going to be 10681 02:19:32,200 --> 02:19:32,888 going 10682 02:19:32,888 --> 02:19:33,255 forward if the 10683 02:19:33,255 --> 02:19:34,356 council 10684 02:19:34,356 --> 02:19:35,230 votes to 10685 02:19:35,230 --> 02:19:35,223 put 10686 02:19:35,223 --> 02:19:36,859 a 10687 02:19:36,859 --> 02:19:37,325 bond 10688 02:19:37,325 --> 02:19:37,508 proposition 10689 02:19:37,508 --> 02:19:37,926 . So if 10690 02:19:37,926 --> 02:19:38,193 there were 10691 02:19:38,193 --> 02:19:39,127 a 10692 02:19:39,127 --> 02:19:39,295 situation 10693 02:19:39,295 --> 02:19:39,695 where, 10694 02:19:39,695 --> 02:19:40,329 you know 10695 02:19:40,329 --> 02:19:41,300 , it wasn't going 10696 02:19:41,300 --> 02:19:41,563 to 10697 02:19:41,563 --> 02:19:41,930 move forward, then 10698 02:19:41,930 --> 02:19:42,365 that 10699 02:19:42,365 --> 02:19:43,899 part of 10700 02:19:43,899 --> 02:19:44,600 the scope would 10701 02:19:44,600 --> 02:19:45,300 brighten 10702 02:19:45,300 --> 02:19:45,767 up 10703 02:19:45,767 --> 02:19:46,100 this is a time 10704 02:19:46,100 --> 02:19:46,201 and 10705 02:19:46,201 --> 02:19:46,802 materials 10706 02:19:46,802 --> 02:19:48,300 contract, not if we 10707 02:19:48,300 --> 02:19:48,171 speak 10708 02:19:48,171 --> 02:19:48,403 . 10709 02:19:48,403 --> 02:19:48,805 Right 10710 02:19:48,805 --> 02:19:49,380 . Ok 10711 02:19:49,380 --> 02:19:50,973 . Um 10712 02:19:50,973 --> 02:19:52,973 , and then 10713 02:19:53,800 --> 02:19:53,575 I 10714 02:19:53,575 --> 02:19:54,977 noticed in the 10715 02:19:54,977 --> 02:19:55,110 , um, in 10716 02:19:55,110 --> 02:19:55,411 that 10717 02:19:55,411 --> 02:19:55,845 task 10718 02:19:55,845 --> 02:19:57,279 , there was 10719 02:19:57,279 --> 02:19:57,412 , uh, the 10720 02:19:57,412 --> 02:19:57,780 scope 10721 02:19:57,780 --> 02:19:59,348 was, it 10722 02:19:59,348 --> 02:19:59,748 , it appears to 10723 02:19:59,748 --> 02:20:00,315 be one 10724 02:20:00,315 --> 02:20:01,450 city council 10725 02:20:01,450 --> 02:20:01,817 meeting 10726 02:20:01,817 --> 02:20:02,510 , but what 10727 02:20:02,510 --> 02:20:02,718 if 10728 02:20:02,718 --> 02:20:04,386 there were more than one 10729 02:20:04,386 --> 02:20:04,754 city council meeting 10730 02:20:04,754 --> 02:20:05,187 , like if 10731 02:20:05,187 --> 02:20:05,854 there was 10732 02:20:05,854 --> 02:20:06,322 the 10733 02:20:06,322 --> 02:20:06,656 initial one and 10734 02:20:06,656 --> 02:20:07,222 there 10735 02:20:07,222 --> 02:20:07,523 was modifications that 10736 02:20:07,523 --> 02:20:08,525 needed 10737 02:20:08,525 --> 02:20:08,957 to come 10738 02:20:08,957 --> 02:20:09,910 back. Would 10739 02:20:09,910 --> 02:20:09,358 that 10740 02:20:09,358 --> 02:20:10,250 be 10741 02:20:10,250 --> 02:20:10,993 something additional or is 10742 02:20:10,993 --> 02:20:11,327 that included in the scope 10743 02:20:11,327 --> 02:20:11,760 ? 10744 02:20:11,760 --> 02:20:12,628 There's one 10745 02:20:12,628 --> 02:20:12,928 , there's a 10746 02:20:12,928 --> 02:20:13,228 I 10747 02:20:13,228 --> 02:20:15,228 think 10748 02:20:15,397 --> 02:20:16,165 an additional for meetings and 10749 02:20:16,165 --> 02:20:17,700 something we could work with 10750 02:20:17,700 --> 02:20:19,568 the consultant on. Ok 10751 02:20:19,568 --> 02:20:19,802 , and then 10752 02:20:19,802 --> 02:20:20,369 um 10753 02:20:20,369 --> 02:20:21,905 , when I was 10754 02:20:21,905 --> 02:20:22,605 looking about, 10755 02:20:22,605 --> 02:20:22,938 um, who were they were going to 10756 02:20:22,938 --> 02:20:23,939 reach 10757 02:20:23,939 --> 02:20:24,406 out to 10758 02:20:24,406 --> 02:20:24,673 and 10759 02:20:24,673 --> 02:20:26,420 , and 10760 02:20:26,420 --> 02:20:26,475 they 10761 02:20:26,475 --> 02:20:27,100 mentioned 10762 02:20:27,100 --> 02:20:27,343 key stakeholders and 10763 02:20:27,343 --> 02:20:28,377 I was 10764 02:20:28,377 --> 02:20:28,844 just 10765 02:20:28,844 --> 02:20:29,111 wondering if the 10766 02:20:29,111 --> 02:20:29,612 city 10767 02:20:29,612 --> 02:20:30,747 council 10768 02:20:30,747 --> 02:20:31,614 members 10769 02:20:31,614 --> 02:20:33,149 individually are included in 10770 02:20:33,149 --> 02:20:33,482 that definition. So 10771 02:20:33,482 --> 02:20:33,682 that 10772 02:20:33,682 --> 02:20:34,283 city 10773 02:20:34,283 --> 02:20:35,151 council members would 10774 02:20:35,151 --> 02:20:35,618 meet with 10775 02:20:35,618 --> 02:20:35,851 them the same 10776 02:20:35,851 --> 02:20:36,318 way 10777 02:20:36,318 --> 02:20:36,886 we did 10778 02:20:36,886 --> 02:20:38,120 individually with 10779 02:20:38,120 --> 02:20:38,587 um the 10780 02:20:38,587 --> 02:20:39,822 strategic plan 10781 02:20:39,822 --> 02:20:40,522 . We haven't, we 10782 02:20:40,522 --> 02:20:42,358 haven't met, had a 10783 02:20:42,358 --> 02:20:43,159 kickoff 10784 02:20:43,159 --> 02:20:44,930 until we wanna make sure that 10785 02:20:44,930 --> 02:20:44,593 this 10786 02:20:44,593 --> 02:20:44,760 passes first 10787 02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:45,461 . That's 10788 02:20:45,461 --> 02:20:46,395 usually the time in which 10789 02:20:46,395 --> 02:20:47,129 we 10790 02:20:47,129 --> 02:20:48,865 define the stakeholders 10791 02:20:48,865 --> 02:20:48,998 . Ok 10792 02:20:48,998 --> 02:20:49,532 , so 10793 02:20:49,532 --> 02:20:50,666 would you define 10794 02:20:50,666 --> 02:20:51,100 the 10795 02:20:51,100 --> 02:20:51,433 stakeholders 10796 02:20:51,433 --> 02:20:52,350 , including city 10797 02:20:52,350 --> 02:20:53,336 council members that 10798 02:20:53,336 --> 02:20:54,136 have 10799 02:20:54,136 --> 02:20:54,570 meeting individually, like the 10800 02:20:54,570 --> 02:20:55,672 strategic 10801 02:20:55,672 --> 02:20:57,640 plan. Um 10802 02:20:57,640 --> 02:20:58,575 . I think, I 10803 02:20:58,575 --> 02:21:00,543 think I've looked to wsb to for 10804 02:21:00,543 --> 02:21:01,310 their recommendation on it. I'm 10805 02:21:01,310 --> 02:21:03,145 not sure because you all will 10806 02:21:03,145 --> 02:21:03,446 see it, we've talked to you all 10807 02:21:03,446 --> 02:21:04,280 about 10808 02:21:04,280 --> 02:21:05,470 the 10809 02:21:05,470 --> 02:21:05,314 projects previously. 10810 02:21:05,314 --> 02:21:07,314 Um 10811 02:21:07,483 --> 02:21:07,750 strategic plan 10812 02:21:07,750 --> 02:21:09,552 very 10813 02:21:09,552 --> 02:21:09,986 different than a bond. Um, I 10814 02:21:09,986 --> 02:21:11,321 don't know 10815 02:21:11,321 --> 02:21:11,755 that 10816 02:21:11,755 --> 02:21:11,988 that's time 10817 02:21:11,988 --> 02:21:12,555 is 10818 02:21:12,555 --> 02:21:13,789 well spent for you 10819 02:21:13,789 --> 02:21:14,900 or 10820 02:21:14,900 --> 02:21:14,257 them 10821 02:21:14,257 --> 02:21:14,657 on 10822 02:21:14,657 --> 02:21:14,991 that it 10823 02:21:14,991 --> 02:21:16,225 does 10824 02:21:16,225 --> 02:21:16,792 individual 10825 02:21:16,792 --> 02:21:18,940 conversations. But 10826 02:21:18,940 --> 02:21:18,795 if that's 10827 02:21:18,795 --> 02:21:19,195 something counsel would like to 10828 02:21:19,195 --> 02:21:20,663 happen, we 10829 02:21:20,663 --> 02:21:21,397 can certainly put 10830 02:21:21,397 --> 02:21:22,698 that on the stakeholder list 10831 02:21:22,698 --> 02:21:22,966 . 10832 02:21:22,966 --> 02:21:23,366 So 10833 02:21:23,366 --> 02:21:25,366 , um, if 10834 02:21:25,535 --> 02:21:26,350 council members were 10835 02:21:26,350 --> 02:21:27,337 not included 10836 02:21:27,337 --> 02:21:27,468 as stakeholders 10837 02:21:27,468 --> 02:21:28,138 , 10838 02:21:28,138 --> 02:21:29,639 though one time that 10839 02:21:29,639 --> 02:21:29,906 they 10840 02:21:29,906 --> 02:21:30,740 would 10841 02:21:30,740 --> 02:21:31,707 receive information is that the 10842 02:21:31,707 --> 02:21:32,441 city 10843 02:21:32,441 --> 02:21:32,552 council presentation 10844 02:21:32,552 --> 02:21:32,875 . 10845 02:21:32,875 --> 02:21:34,377 You'll 10846 02:21:34,377 --> 02:21:34,877 receive information 10847 02:21:34,877 --> 02:21:36,746 related to the 10848 02:21:36,746 --> 02:21:37,547 bond 10849 02:21:37,547 --> 02:21:37,880 recommendation at that time. 10850 02:21:37,880 --> 02:21:38,915 Right 10851 02:21:38,915 --> 02:21:39,282 , you'll so 10852 02:21:39,282 --> 02:21:39,389 one meeting 10853 02:21:39,389 --> 02:21:39,882 we 10854 02:21:39,882 --> 02:21:40,983 will, but 10855 02:21:40,983 --> 02:21:41,385 Walt 10856 02:21:41,385 --> 02:21:42,118 Staffel can 10857 02:21:42,118 --> 02:21:42,452 update you through the 10858 02:21:42,452 --> 02:21:43,519 , through 10859 02:21:43,519 --> 02:21:44,200 the 10860 02:21:44,200 --> 02:21:44,387 process. That 10861 02:21:44,387 --> 02:21:44,754 , that's for 10862 02:21:44,754 --> 02:21:45,221 when 10863 02:21:45,221 --> 02:21:45,621 our consultant 10864 02:21:45,621 --> 02:21:45,822 is here 10865 02:21:45,822 --> 02:21:46,155 . It 10866 02:21:46,155 --> 02:21:46,422 won't 10867 02:21:46,422 --> 02:21:46,789 , you 10868 02:21:46,789 --> 02:21:47,223 won't 10869 02:21:47,223 --> 02:21:48,491 just 10870 02:21:48,491 --> 02:21:48,791 hear 10871 02:21:48,791 --> 02:21:49,910 about 10872 02:21:49,910 --> 02:21:49,525 tonight 10873 02:21:49,525 --> 02:21:50,226 and then 10874 02:21:50,226 --> 02:21:50,527 come 10875 02:21:50,527 --> 02:21:50,860 MAY 10876 02:21:50,860 --> 02:21:51,600 Here's 10877 02:21:51,600 --> 02:21:51,761 a 10878 02:21:51,761 --> 02:21:51,961 recommendation 10879 02:21:51,961 --> 02:21:52,295 . We'll 10880 02:21:52,295 --> 02:21:52,528 update 10881 02:21:52,528 --> 02:21:53,290 you 10882 02:21:53,290 --> 02:21:53,429 on how 10883 02:21:53,429 --> 02:21:53,963 the 10884 02:21:53,963 --> 02:21:54,997 bond 10885 02:21:54,997 --> 02:21:55,176 committee meetings are going 10886 02:21:55,176 --> 02:21:55,531 um 10887 02:21:55,531 --> 02:21:55,832 as we do 10888 02:21:55,832 --> 02:21:56,499 through 10889 02:21:56,499 --> 02:21:57,267 various 10890 02:21:57,267 --> 02:21:59,202 communications like the weekly 10891 02:21:59,202 --> 02:21:59,435 . 10892 02:21:59,435 --> 02:21:59,970 Ok 10893 02:21:59,970 --> 02:22:01,970 , and then 10894 02:22:01,971 --> 02:22:03,373 , um, in section 4 10895 02:22:03,373 --> 02:22:03,973 , 10896 02:22:03,973 --> 02:22:04,407 there was some items 10897 02:22:04,407 --> 02:22:04,807 about 10898 02:22:04,807 --> 02:22:06,242 exclusions 10899 02:22:06,242 --> 02:22:06,776 Um 10900 02:22:06,776 --> 02:22:08,245 , and 10901 02:22:08,245 --> 02:22:08,845 so some of 10902 02:22:08,845 --> 02:22:10,179 them 10903 02:22:10,179 --> 02:22:10,713 seemed 10904 02:22:10,713 --> 02:22:11,281 uh possibly 10905 02:22:11,281 --> 02:22:12,549 important, that would 10906 02:22:12,549 --> 02:22:13,384 be needed 10907 02:22:13,384 --> 02:22:14,851 for a uh projects of these 10908 02:22:14,851 --> 02:22:15,518 , the 10909 02:22:15,518 --> 02:22:17,200 scope. And so I was 10910 02:22:17,200 --> 02:22:17,453 just 10911 02:22:17,453 --> 02:22:17,754 wondering, do 10912 02:22:17,754 --> 02:22:18,870 we 10913 02:22:18,870 --> 02:22:18,454 anticipate 10914 02:22:18,454 --> 02:22:19,556 that those 10915 02:22:19,556 --> 02:22:20,356 additional 10916 02:22:20,356 --> 02:22:20,490 consultants will be needed 10917 02:22:20,490 --> 02:22:20,823 and 10918 02:22:20,823 --> 02:22:21,891 is there 10919 02:22:21,891 --> 02:22:22,258 , you know 10920 02:22:22,258 --> 02:22:22,406 , and then 10921 02:22:22,406 --> 02:22:22,625 do 10922 02:22:22,625 --> 02:22:23,226 we 10923 02:22:23,226 --> 02:22:24,930 have budgeted for 10924 02:22:24,930 --> 02:22:24,595 those 10925 02:22:24,595 --> 02:22:25,161 estimated costs 10926 02:22:25,161 --> 02:22:25,462 of services, 10927 02:22:25,462 --> 02:22:26,663 like 10928 02:22:26,663 --> 02:22:27,163 they 10929 02:22:27,163 --> 02:22:27,430 mentioned 10930 02:22:27,430 --> 02:22:27,797 financial 10931 02:22:27,797 --> 02:22:28,765 analysis 10932 02:22:28,765 --> 02:22:28,998 , debt capacity 10933 02:22:28,998 --> 02:22:30,467 , or 10934 02:22:30,467 --> 02:22:31,167 projected tax impacts, which I 10935 02:22:31,167 --> 02:22:32,469 believe are 10936 02:22:32,469 --> 02:22:32,969 are essential 10937 02:22:32,969 --> 02:22:33,636 for, 10938 02:22:33,636 --> 02:22:34,138 uh, you know, and 10939 02:22:34,138 --> 02:22:34,370 , and has 10940 02:22:34,370 --> 02:22:34,737 been 10941 02:22:34,737 --> 02:22:34,971 included 10942 02:22:34,971 --> 02:22:35,705 in 10943 02:22:35,705 --> 02:22:36,172 previous bond 10944 02:22:36,172 --> 02:22:36,573 committees, so 10945 02:22:36,573 --> 02:22:37,730 so 10946 02:22:37,730 --> 02:22:37,407 I'm 10947 02:22:37,407 --> 02:22:37,841 thinking 10948 02:22:37,841 --> 02:22:38,308 there's then 10949 02:22:38,308 --> 02:22:40,430 another contract 10950 02:22:40,430 --> 02:22:40,477 that's gonna 10951 02:22:40,477 --> 02:22:41,111 be needed, 10952 02:22:41,111 --> 02:22:41,778 possibly. We don't think 10953 02:22:41,778 --> 02:22:42,412 for 10954 02:22:42,412 --> 02:22:42,845 that particular one that 10955 02:22:42,845 --> 02:22:44,447 that'll be 10956 02:22:44,447 --> 02:22:45,348 necessary. If, if we 10957 02:22:45,348 --> 02:22:46,851 needed to, but we have a bond 10958 02:22:46,851 --> 02:22:47,117 council, we have 10959 02:22:47,117 --> 02:22:47,917 financial 10960 02:22:47,917 --> 02:22:49,119 advisors that we're bringing on 10961 02:22:49,119 --> 02:22:49,386 board. You, you've seen 10962 02:22:49,386 --> 02:22:49,853 them 10963 02:22:49,853 --> 02:22:50,820 that they're 10964 02:22:50,820 --> 02:22:51,550 , uh, Dusty 10965 02:22:51,550 --> 02:22:51,955 and 10966 02:22:51,955 --> 02:22:52,388 Richard will, will help us 10967 02:22:52,388 --> 02:22:53,623 through that 10968 02:22:53,623 --> 02:22:53,923 , um, component of 10969 02:22:53,923 --> 02:22:54,291 the 10970 02:22:54,291 --> 02:22:54,692 bond. So 10971 02:22:54,692 --> 02:22:55,492 we don't 10972 02:22:55,492 --> 02:22:56,260 they'll 10973 02:22:56,260 --> 02:22:56,559 cer that 10974 02:22:56,559 --> 02:22:57,927 purpose right they're 10975 02:22:57,927 --> 02:22:58,395 just saying we 10976 02:22:58,395 --> 02:22:58,961 don't have, 10977 02:22:58,961 --> 02:22:59,296 we're not bringing 10978 02:22:59,296 --> 02:22:59,562 this along. 10979 02:22:59,562 --> 02:23:00,630 They 10980 02:23:00,630 --> 02:23:00,430 don't they're 10981 02:23:00,430 --> 02:23:00,730 not going to 10982 02:23:00,730 --> 02:23:01,398 do it 10983 02:23:01,398 --> 02:23:02,399 . We will 10984 02:23:02,399 --> 02:23:02,832 be providing 10985 02:23:02,832 --> 02:23:03,800 Yeah 10986 02:23:03,800 --> 02:23:04,435 , absolutely 10987 02:23:04,435 --> 02:23:04,834 , very 10988 02:23:04,834 --> 02:23:05,669 , very 10989 02:23:05,669 --> 02:23:06,200 important to me. And then what 10990 02:23:06,200 --> 02:23:06,303 about 10991 02:23:06,303 --> 02:23:06,603 the 10992 02:23:06,603 --> 02:23:07,304 other because I 10993 02:23:07,304 --> 02:23:08,471 mentioned two items in the 10994 02:23:08,471 --> 02:23:09,172 , in 10995 02:23:09,172 --> 02:23:09,573 the information I sent in 10996 02:23:09,573 --> 02:23:11,141 advance 10997 02:23:11,141 --> 02:23:11,808 , um, about the, you 10998 02:23:11,808 --> 02:23:13,877 know, facilitation of the 10999 02:23:13,877 --> 02:23:14,177 ballot language 11000 02:23:14,177 --> 02:23:14,578 , polling 11001 02:23:14,578 --> 02:23:15,579 coordination 11002 02:23:15,579 --> 02:23:15,846 , voting processes, 11003 02:23:15,846 --> 02:23:16,313 and 11004 02:23:16,313 --> 02:23:17,881 then 11005 02:23:17,881 --> 02:23:18,749 also accurate 11006 02:23:18,749 --> 02:23:19,282 construction cost estimates. So 11007 02:23:19,282 --> 02:23:20,551 we already 11008 02:23:20,551 --> 02:23:20,985 have 11009 02:23:20,985 --> 02:23:21,384 consultants on 11010 02:23:21,384 --> 02:23:22,953 that we're 11011 02:23:22,953 --> 02:23:23,287 working 11012 02:23:23,287 --> 02:23:23,987 with or 11013 02:23:23,987 --> 02:23:25,388 staff 11014 02:23:25,388 --> 02:23:25,522 that could handle 11015 02:23:25,522 --> 02:23:25,822 those 11016 02:23:25,822 --> 02:23:27,657 two 11017 02:23:27,657 --> 02:23:29,159 , services 11018 02:23:29,159 --> 02:23:29,426 as well. We do 11019 02:23:29,426 --> 02:23:30,600 , 11020 02:23:30,600 --> 02:23:31,270 uh, so through the very 11021 02:23:31,270 --> 02:23:31,461 , 11022 02:23:31,461 --> 02:23:31,729 whether it's 11023 02:23:31,729 --> 02:23:31,995 parks 11024 02:23:31,995 --> 02:23:32,729 or 11025 02:23:32,729 --> 02:23:33,597 transportation downtown 11026 02:23:33,597 --> 02:23:34,231 , we 11027 02:23:34,231 --> 02:23:34,532 have, we've got a lot 11028 02:23:34,532 --> 02:23:35,980 of 11029 02:23:35,980 --> 02:23:35,832 estimates in 11030 02:23:35,832 --> 02:23:36,433 our 11031 02:23:36,433 --> 02:23:37,133 consultant 11032 02:23:37,133 --> 02:23:38,100 teams that are helping us 11033 02:23:38,100 --> 02:23:38,702 with 11034 02:23:38,702 --> 02:23:39,103 those specific projects that 11035 02:23:39,103 --> 02:23:40,470 are gonna 11036 02:23:40,470 --> 02:23:40,905 gonna attorney will 11037 02:23:40,905 --> 02:23:42,873 help us with 11038 02:23:42,873 --> 02:23:43,473 bond with ballot. 11039 02:23:43,473 --> 02:23:43,640 They just called it 11040 02:23:43,640 --> 02:23:44,740 out 11041 02:23:44,740 --> 02:23:44,775 specifically 11042 02:23:44,775 --> 02:23:45,142 , so I 11043 02:23:45,142 --> 02:23:45,575 just wanted 11044 02:23:45,575 --> 02:23:45,876 to know who 11045 02:23:45,876 --> 02:23:46,377 was 11046 02:23:46,377 --> 02:23:47,345 handling 11047 02:23:47,345 --> 02:23:49,460 those 11048 02:23:49,460 --> 02:23:49,446 services. All right. Any other 11049 02:23:49,446 --> 02:23:50,130 questions 11050 02:23:50,130 --> 02:23:50,847 , counsel 11051 02:23:50,847 --> 02:23:51,214 ? Motion 11052 02:23:51,214 --> 02:23:52,349 approve 5 11053 02:23:52,349 --> 02:23:52,749 . B 11054 02:23:52,749 --> 02:23:53,517 as presented 11055 02:23:53,517 --> 02:23:53,817 . 11056 02:23:53,817 --> 02:23:54,652 Second 11057 02:23:54,652 --> 02:23:55,886 , I have 11058 02:23:55,886 --> 02:23:56,286 a 11059 02:23:56,286 --> 02:23:56,987 second from 11060 02:23:56,987 --> 02:23:59,387 Jonathan or Kim anyway 11061 02:24:03,460 --> 02:24:03,861 . All 11062 02:24:03,861 --> 02:24:05,280 right 11063 02:24:05,280 --> 02:24:05,495 , motion 11064 02:24:05,495 --> 02:24:05,930 passes. That 11065 02:24:05,930 --> 02:24:07,331 brings us 11066 02:24:07,331 --> 02:24:07,898 to 11067 02:24:07,898 --> 02:24:08,465 item 5c 11068 02:24:08,465 --> 02:24:10,465 , approving 11069 02:24:10,567 --> 02:24:12,469 a resolution of the 11070 02:24:12,469 --> 02:24:12,936 , uh, uh, in 11071 02:24:12,936 --> 02:24:13,938 support of the 11072 02:24:13,938 --> 02:24:14,271 Travis 11073 02:24:14,271 --> 02:24:14,939 County 11074 02:24:14,939 --> 02:24:15,305 sponsored applications to the 11075 02:24:15,305 --> 02:24:16,306 Capitol 11076 02:24:16,306 --> 02:24:16,774 area 11077 02:24:16,774 --> 02:24:17,141 Metropolitan 11078 02:24:17,141 --> 02:24:18,809 Planning 11079 02:24:18,809 --> 02:24:18,967 Organization 11080 02:24:18,967 --> 02:24:19,243 Campo 11081 02:24:19,243 --> 02:24:19,810 2028 11082 02:24:19,810 --> 02:24:20,944 to 2031 11083 02:24:20,944 --> 02:24:21,512 call 11084 02:24:21,512 --> 02:24:22,179 for projects 11085 02:24:22,179 --> 02:24:22,413 and authorized the city 11086 02:24:22,413 --> 02:24:22,679 manager 11087 02:24:22,679 --> 02:24:23,480 to 11088 02:24:23,480 --> 02:24:24,281 execute 11089 02:24:24,281 --> 02:24:24,548 the same 11090 02:24:24,548 --> 02:24:25,215 melody I 11091 02:24:25,215 --> 02:24:25,516 believe you pulled this 11092 02:24:25,516 --> 02:24:25,849 one. 11093 02:24:25,849 --> 02:24:26,150 Mayor 11094 02:24:26,150 --> 02:24:26,550 . MAY I 11095 02:24:26,550 --> 02:24:26,917 ask that 11096 02:24:26,917 --> 02:24:27,618 any 11097 02:24:27,618 --> 02:24:28,352 questions be 11098 02:24:28,352 --> 02:24:28,485 pertinent to 11099 02:24:28,485 --> 02:24:28,852 the 11100 02:24:28,852 --> 02:24:29,253 subject 11101 02:24:29,253 --> 02:24:29,553 on our vote 11102 02:24:29,553 --> 02:24:29,954 . Also 11103 02:24:29,954 --> 02:24:30,254 , will 11104 02:24:30,254 --> 02:24:31,121 they 11105 02:24:31,121 --> 02:24:32,155 affect our vote 11106 02:24:32,155 --> 02:24:32,291 And 11107 02:24:32,291 --> 02:24:33,123 if 11108 02:24:33,123 --> 02:24:35,159 somebody's going to vote no 11109 02:24:35,159 --> 02:24:35,526 anyway, MAY, you know 11110 02:24:35,526 --> 02:24:35,993 , uh 11111 02:24:35,993 --> 02:24:36,927 please ask that 11112 02:24:36,927 --> 02:24:37,227 they not 11113 02:24:37,227 --> 02:24:37,694 waste 11114 02:24:37,694 --> 02:24:38,996 everybody's 11115 02:24:38,996 --> 02:24:39,630 time 11116 02:24:39,630 --> 02:24:40,640 . That is a 11117 02:24:40,640 --> 02:24:41,498 great 11118 02:24:41,498 --> 02:24:41,627 recommendation. Melody 11119 02:24:41,627 --> 02:24:42,266 , I 11120 02:24:42,266 --> 02:24:43,601 believe you had questions 11121 02:24:43,601 --> 02:24:44,100 on 11122 02:24:44,100 --> 02:24:44,368 this? Um 11123 02:24:44,368 --> 02:24:44,602 , yes 11124 02:24:44,602 --> 02:24:44,902 , I 11125 02:24:44,902 --> 02:24:46,700 was 11126 02:24:46,700 --> 02:24:46,670 just 11127 02:24:46,670 --> 02:24:47,104 wondering about 11128 02:24:47,104 --> 02:24:48,205 the projects 11129 02:24:48,205 --> 02:24:49,440 that were 11130 02:24:49,440 --> 02:24:50,341 , um, included 11131 02:24:50,341 --> 02:24:50,541 in 11132 02:24:50,541 --> 02:24:50,808 here 11133 02:24:50,808 --> 02:24:51,141 Um 11134 02:24:51,141 --> 02:24:51,709 , what was 11135 02:24:51,709 --> 02:24:52,977 the 11136 02:24:52,977 --> 02:24:53,477 criteria 11137 02:24:53,477 --> 02:24:54,110 for 11138 02:24:54,110 --> 02:24:54,411 eligibility for 11139 02:24:54,411 --> 02:24:55,513 the 11140 02:24:55,513 --> 02:24:55,946 the streets 11141 02:24:55,946 --> 02:24:56,213 that we 11142 02:24:56,213 --> 02:24:57,115 could 11143 02:24:57,115 --> 02:24:57,448 submit 11144 02:24:57,448 --> 02:24:57,815 for 11145 02:24:57,815 --> 02:24:58,415 this 11146 02:24:58,415 --> 02:24:59,483 funding or call 11147 02:24:59,483 --> 02:25:00,170 for 11148 02:25:00,170 --> 02:25:00,285 project 11149 02:25:00,285 --> 02:25:00,651 and 11150 02:25:00,651 --> 02:25:01,352 then how 11151 02:25:01,352 --> 02:25:02,219 were these 11152 02:25:02,219 --> 02:25:02,586 streets 11153 02:25:02,586 --> 02:25:03,187 selected 11154 02:25:03,187 --> 02:25:04,255 for 11155 02:25:04,255 --> 02:25:04,414 clarification 11156 02:25:04,414 --> 02:25:04,689 , 11157 02:25:04,689 --> 02:25:05,690 this 11158 02:25:05,690 --> 02:25:06,390 item is 11159 02:25:06,390 --> 02:25:07,910 approving a 11160 02:25:07,910 --> 02:25:07,391 resolution in support of the 11161 02:25:07,391 --> 02:25:08,726 Travis 11162 02:25:08,726 --> 02:25:09,294 County sponsored. So 11163 02:25:09,294 --> 02:25:10,561 were these items 11164 02:25:10,561 --> 02:25:10,702 that 11165 02:25:10,702 --> 02:25:11,462 we 11166 02:25:11,462 --> 02:25:11,896 submitted or we're supporting 11167 02:25:11,896 --> 02:25:13,300 Travis County 11168 02:25:13,300 --> 02:25:13,398 with 11169 02:25:13,398 --> 02:25:13,698 this item 11170 02:25:13,698 --> 02:25:14,165 . 11171 02:25:14,165 --> 02:25:15,132 Great question 11172 02:25:15,132 --> 02:25:15,266 . Um, thank 11173 02:25:15,266 --> 02:25:15,733 you. 11174 02:25:15,733 --> 02:25:16,330 These, these 11175 02:25:16,330 --> 02:25:16,300 are all 11176 02:25:16,300 --> 02:25:17,235 items 11177 02:25:17,235 --> 02:25:17,702 that 11178 02:25:17,702 --> 02:25:17,968 Travis County 11179 02:25:17,968 --> 02:25:18,436 had 11180 02:25:18,436 --> 02:25:18,702 passed 11181 02:25:18,702 --> 02:25:20,371 staff 11182 02:25:20,371 --> 02:25:20,605 to support. So this is 11183 02:25:20,605 --> 02:25:21,238 the 11184 02:25:21,238 --> 02:25:21,906 resolution of 11185 02:25:21,906 --> 02:25:22,206 support. Ok, this 11186 02:25:22,206 --> 02:25:22,940 is a 11187 02:25:22,940 --> 02:25:24,375 resolution of support for 11188 02:25:24,375 --> 02:25:24,776 Travis so 11189 02:25:24,776 --> 02:25:25,176 we wouldn't 11190 02:25:25,176 --> 02:25:25,476 have 11191 02:25:25,476 --> 02:25:26,977 their 11192 02:25:26,977 --> 02:25:27,211 justification for 11193 02:25:27,211 --> 02:25:28,913 , or 11194 02:25:28,913 --> 02:25:29,680 their determination on how they 11195 02:25:29,680 --> 02:25:31,182 made these claims. Oh, well, I 11196 02:25:31,182 --> 02:25:31,515 asked these in 11197 02:25:31,515 --> 02:25:31,849 advance and so I 11198 02:25:31,849 --> 02:25:32,950 didn't 11199 02:25:32,950 --> 02:25:33,284 , I 11200 02:25:33,284 --> 02:25:33,551 didn't 11201 02:25:33,551 --> 02:25:33,818 know 11202 02:25:33,818 --> 02:25:34,319 that 11203 02:25:34,319 --> 02:25:35,353 information 11204 02:25:35,353 --> 02:25:35,490 . County 11205 02:25:35,490 --> 02:25:36,187 and 11206 02:25:36,187 --> 02:25:36,520 Williamson County have the 11207 02:25:36,520 --> 02:25:37,989 two 11208 02:25:37,989 --> 02:25:39,790 biggest amounts, 26 11209 02:25:39,790 --> 02:25:40,570 . All 11210 02:25:40,570 --> 02:25:40,222 right 11211 02:25:40,222 --> 02:25:40,958 , 11212 02:25:40,958 --> 02:25:41,959 did that, did that answer 11213 02:25:41,959 --> 02:25:42,627 your 11214 02:25:42,627 --> 02:25:43,195 questions? Well, I was also 11215 02:25:43,195 --> 02:25:44,262 curious if I could 11216 02:25:44,262 --> 02:25:44,462 be 11217 02:25:44,462 --> 02:25:44,930 pro if 11218 02:25:44,930 --> 02:25:45,163 there's a map 11219 02:25:45,163 --> 02:25:45,563 of 11220 02:25:45,563 --> 02:25:47,265 the segments 11221 02:25:47,265 --> 02:25:47,732 of the, the segments of the 11222 02:25:47,732 --> 02:25:49,000 roads that 11223 02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:49,634 were 11224 02:25:49,634 --> 02:25:50,367 being included 11225 02:25:50,367 --> 02:25:50,936 here. I think we'd need to 11226 02:25:50,936 --> 02:25:51,636 ask 11227 02:25:51,636 --> 02:25:52,170 Travis County for that. No, I 11228 02:25:52,170 --> 02:25:53,571 do not have that 11229 02:25:53,571 --> 02:25:53,838 . Ok 11230 02:25:53,838 --> 02:25:54,338 , so we 11231 02:25:54,338 --> 02:25:55,473 don't know the 11232 02:25:55,473 --> 02:25:56,275 extension of 11233 02:25:56,275 --> 02:25:56,574 like I think the only one that 11234 02:25:56,574 --> 02:25:57,975 was 11235 02:25:57,975 --> 02:25:58,342 the 11236 02:25:58,342 --> 02:25:58,643 extension 11237 02:25:58,643 --> 02:25:59,277 is um for 11238 02:25:59,277 --> 02:26:00,411 Jesse Bowles. They had 11239 02:26:00,411 --> 02:26:00,745 , um, did 11240 02:26:00,745 --> 02:26:01,112 I think 11241 02:26:01,112 --> 02:26:02,747 Avalon and 11242 02:26:02,747 --> 02:26:03,248 then 11243 02:26:03,248 --> 02:26:03,848 um 973 11244 02:26:03,848 --> 02:26:05,490 on the Far East side 11245 02:26:05,490 --> 02:26:05,550 . That's 11246 02:26:05,550 --> 02:26:07,190 the reservation 11247 02:26:07,190 --> 02:26:07,185 The 11248 02:26:07,185 --> 02:26:07,652 center 11249 02:26:07,652 --> 02:26:09,652 portion. Ok 11250 02:26:09,854 --> 02:26:11,289 . Move 11251 02:26:11,289 --> 02:26:11,522 to approve 11252 02:26:11,522 --> 02:26:12,456 in 11253 02:26:12,456 --> 02:26:13,991 a second, a motion from David 11254 02:26:13,991 --> 02:26:16,391 and second from Rudy 11255 02:26:20,732 --> 02:26:21,432 . Motion 11256 02:26:21,432 --> 02:26:22,567 passes that brings us to 11257 02:26:22,567 --> 02:26:22,834 item 11258 02:26:22,834 --> 02:26:23,635 5d 11259 02:26:23,635 --> 02:26:25,269 , approving resolution 11260 02:26:25,269 --> 02:26:25,937 Committee Type b sales tax 11261 02:26:25,937 --> 02:26:27,710 funds in support of parks 11262 02:26:27,710 --> 02:26:27,839 and 11263 02:26:27,839 --> 02:26:28,306 recreation projects consistent 11264 02:26:28,306 --> 02:26:30,750 with the 2026 11265 02:26:30,750 --> 02:26:30,408 , 2030 11266 02:26:30,408 --> 02:26:31,643 strategic 11267 02:26:31,643 --> 02:26:31,876 plan 11268 02:26:31,876 --> 02:26:32,610 and 11269 02:26:32,610 --> 02:26:33,440 pcdc 11270 02:26:33,440 --> 02:26:34,379 Comprehensive 11271 02:26:34,379 --> 02:26:34,645 Economic Development Strategy 11272 02:26:34,645 --> 02:26:34,979 to 11273 02:26:34,979 --> 02:26:35,380 ensure 11274 02:26:35,380 --> 02:26:36,414 long-term 11275 02:26:36,414 --> 02:26:37,810 investment 11276 02:26:37,810 --> 02:26:37,515 in community quality 11277 02:26:37,515 --> 02:26:37,849 of life 11278 02:26:37,849 --> 02:26:38,449 . 11279 02:26:38,449 --> 02:26:40,849 Uh, David, I believe 11280 02:26:41,686 --> 02:26:41,920 Uh 11281 02:26:41,920 --> 02:26:43,455 , I 11282 02:26:43,455 --> 02:26:43,956 , uh, 11283 02:26:43,956 --> 02:26:45,390 concerned that 11284 02:26:45,390 --> 02:26:46,257 this is 11285 02:26:46,257 --> 02:26:46,625 going to 11286 02:26:46,625 --> 02:26:48,426 make out 11287 02:26:48,426 --> 02:26:49,727 the pcbc 11288 02:26:49,727 --> 02:26:50,528 and 11289 02:26:50,528 --> 02:26:51,129 uh 11290 02:26:51,129 --> 02:26:52,970 basically outsource the 11291 02:26:52,970 --> 02:26:53,310 uh the 11292 02:26:53,310 --> 02:26:54,299 funding of Parson Iraq 11293 02:26:54,299 --> 02:26:54,499 to pcdc 11294 02:26:54,499 --> 02:26:54,933 . 11295 02:26:54,933 --> 02:26:55,400 Uh, that 11296 02:26:55,400 --> 02:26:56,501 doesn't seem to 11297 02:26:56,501 --> 02:26:57,100 me 11298 02:26:57,100 --> 02:26:57,268 that that's 11299 02:26:57,268 --> 02:26:57,635 what 11300 02:26:57,635 --> 02:26:58,403 the pcbc 11301 02:26:58,403 --> 02:26:58,803 is 11302 02:26:58,803 --> 02:26:59,405 for, but 11303 02:26:59,405 --> 02:26:59,871 maybe there's 11304 02:26:59,871 --> 02:27:00,939 something in 11305 02:27:00,939 --> 02:27:01,573 a presentation 11306 02:27:01,573 --> 02:27:01,907 that will convince me to the 11307 02:27:01,907 --> 02:27:03,907 contrary 11308 02:27:05,810 --> 02:27:06,440 . I don't 11309 02:27:06,440 --> 02:27:06,211 I 11310 02:27:06,211 --> 02:27:06,745 don't 11311 02:27:06,745 --> 02:27:07,846 believe we have 11312 02:27:07,846 --> 02:27:08,146 a 11313 02:27:08,146 --> 02:27:08,747 presentation 11314 02:27:08,747 --> 02:27:09,800 for this. I believe it was 11315 02:27:09,800 --> 02:27:09,715 based 11316 02:27:09,715 --> 02:27:10,281 on 11317 02:27:10,281 --> 02:27:10,716 retreat discussion 11318 02:27:10,716 --> 02:27:12,517 . If 11319 02:27:12,517 --> 02:27:13,184 I recall correctly at the 11320 02:27:13,184 --> 02:27:14,653 retreat discussion 11321 02:27:14,653 --> 02:27:14,786 , we 11322 02:27:14,786 --> 02:27:15,286 uh 11323 02:27:15,286 --> 02:27:16,655 discussed about 11324 02:27:16,655 --> 02:27:17,289 specific dollar 11325 02:27:17,289 --> 02:27:17,690 amounts at the point of, you 11326 02:27:17,690 --> 02:27:19,900 know, like 11327 02:27:19,900 --> 02:27:19,258 they've mentioned 11328 02:27:19,258 --> 02:27:19,758 , 11329 02:27:19,758 --> 02:27:20,292 2.1 million and 11330 02:27:20,292 --> 02:27:21,459 decreasing over 11331 02:27:21,459 --> 02:27:21,927 the next 11332 02:27:21,927 --> 02:27:22,227 five 11333 02:27:22,227 --> 02:27:23,328 years 11334 02:27:23,328 --> 02:27:24,620 . So 11335 02:27:24,620 --> 02:27:24,462 , um, I 11336 02:27:24,462 --> 02:27:24,696 was 11337 02:27:24,696 --> 02:27:25,730 not 11338 02:27:25,730 --> 02:27:27,320 expecting 11339 02:27:27,320 --> 02:27:28,167 a 11340 02:27:28,167 --> 02:27:28,633 50%, um, 11341 02:27:28,633 --> 02:27:29,134 and then I 11342 02:27:29,134 --> 02:27:29,290 also did ask 11343 02:27:29,290 --> 02:27:29,568 a 11344 02:27:29,568 --> 02:27:30,135 question 11345 02:27:30,135 --> 02:27:30,602 in 11346 02:27:30,602 --> 02:27:31,200 advance 11347 02:27:31,200 --> 02:27:31,370 of 11348 02:27:31,370 --> 02:27:31,669 what 11349 02:27:31,669 --> 02:27:31,970 is 11350 02:27:31,970 --> 02:27:32,605 the 11351 02:27:32,605 --> 02:27:33,105 , what does 11352 02:27:33,105 --> 02:27:33,471 this mean in 11353 02:27:33,471 --> 02:27:33,772 terms 11354 02:27:33,772 --> 02:27:34,406 of 11355 02:27:34,406 --> 02:27:34,873 actual dollars 11356 02:27:34,873 --> 02:27:35,173 each 11357 02:27:35,173 --> 02:27:36,942 year 11358 02:27:36,942 --> 02:27:37,409 . And 11359 02:27:37,409 --> 02:27:37,943 would the debt 11360 02:27:37,943 --> 02:27:39,110 service for the 11361 02:27:39,110 --> 02:27:39,845 recreation 11362 02:27:39,845 --> 02:27:40,212 center be included in 11363 02:27:40,212 --> 02:27:41,513 this 11364 02:27:41,513 --> 02:27:41,880 50% 11365 02:27:41,880 --> 02:27:43,880 allocation 11366 02:27:44,115 --> 02:27:44,649 . I 11367 02:27:44,649 --> 02:27:44,983 think 11368 02:27:44,983 --> 02:27:46,785 that my 11369 02:27:46,785 --> 02:27:47,452 understanding was that that was 11370 02:27:47,452 --> 02:27:48,653 part of the intent and 11371 02:27:48,653 --> 02:27:49,870 part 11372 02:27:49,870 --> 02:27:49,455 of 11373 02:27:49,455 --> 02:27:49,855 having a 11374 02:27:49,855 --> 02:27:51,560 guardrail 11375 02:27:51,560 --> 02:27:51,923 like this it 11376 02:27:51,923 --> 02:27:53,191 and also 11377 02:27:53,191 --> 02:27:53,892 doesn't have to be 50% 11378 02:27:53,892 --> 02:27:54,159 right 11379 02:27:54,159 --> 02:27:55,360 ? This 11380 02:27:55,360 --> 02:27:55,660 doesn't preclude 11381 02:27:55,660 --> 02:27:55,961 the 11382 02:27:55,961 --> 02:27:56,461 normal 11383 02:27:56,461 --> 02:27:56,862 budget cycles and 11384 02:27:56,862 --> 02:27:58,163 approvals 11385 02:27:58,163 --> 02:27:59,831 that happen anyway 11386 02:27:59,831 --> 02:28:00,666 . I 11387 02:28:00,666 --> 02:28:00,932 don't think. And so I 11388 02:28:00,932 --> 02:28:01,399 think, 11389 02:28:01,399 --> 02:28:02,968 you know 11390 02:28:02,968 --> 02:28:03,268 , pcbc's also 11391 02:28:03,268 --> 02:28:04,469 been 11392 02:28:04,469 --> 02:28:04,903 pretty 11393 02:28:04,903 --> 02:28:05,238 consistently 11394 02:28:05,238 --> 02:28:06,500 funding 11395 02:28:06,500 --> 02:28:06,638 pecs projects as well 11396 02:28:06,638 --> 02:28:07,205 . And so I 11397 02:28:07,205 --> 02:28:07,739 think if we 11398 02:28:07,739 --> 02:28:08,600 actually do look at 11399 02:28:08,600 --> 02:28:08,841 that 11400 02:28:08,841 --> 02:28:09,341 as a 11401 02:28:09,341 --> 02:28:09,875 single 11402 02:28:09,875 --> 02:28:10,542 bucket of 11403 02:28:10,542 --> 02:28:10,810 those efforts 11404 02:28:10,810 --> 02:28:11,910 that 11405 02:28:11,910 --> 02:28:13,110 will also 11406 02:28:13,110 --> 02:28:13,513 help us 11407 02:28:13,513 --> 02:28:13,946 to prioritize 11408 02:28:13,946 --> 02:28:14,613 those 11409 02:28:14,613 --> 02:28:14,980 projects and the need um to 11410 02:28:14,980 --> 02:28:15,515 make sure 11411 02:28:15,515 --> 02:28:16,810 that we're 11412 02:28:16,810 --> 02:28:17,483 . You know 11413 02:28:17,483 --> 02:28:18,216 , 11414 02:28:18,216 --> 02:28:18,483 delivering on our, uh, quality 11415 02:28:18,483 --> 02:28:19,952 of 11416 02:28:19,952 --> 02:28:20,386 life projects 11417 02:28:20,386 --> 02:28:20,552 . Well 11418 02:28:20,552 --> 02:28:20,986 , and 11419 02:28:20,986 --> 02:28:22,588 that's, you 11420 02:28:22,588 --> 02:28:23,388 know, like you said 11421 02:28:23,388 --> 02:28:24,524 that's, that's been a 11422 02:28:24,524 --> 02:28:25,825 long time 11423 02:28:25,825 --> 02:28:27,825 uh, piece 11424 02:28:27,826 --> 02:28:29,610 of pcdc 11425 02:28:29,610 --> 02:28:30,280 , uh, what I'm 11426 02:28:30,280 --> 02:28:31,196 doing pcdc back in the 11427 02:28:31,196 --> 02:28:31,463 Dark 11428 02:28:31,463 --> 02:28:32,764 Ages 11429 02:28:32,764 --> 02:28:33,310 , uh, when dinosaurs roamed 11430 02:28:33,310 --> 02:28:33,665 the 11431 02:28:33,665 --> 02:28:33,999 Earth 11432 02:28:33,999 --> 02:28:34,466 and 11433 02:28:34,466 --> 02:28:34,666 uh we 11434 02:28:34,666 --> 02:28:35,330 had 11435 02:28:35,330 --> 02:28:35,801 problems 11436 02:28:35,801 --> 02:28:36,301 with the 11437 02:28:36,301 --> 02:28:36,935 tar pits on 11438 02:28:36,935 --> 02:28:37,402 the east side of 11439 02:28:37,402 --> 02:28:37,803 town 11440 02:28:37,803 --> 02:28:38,737 . Um 11441 02:28:38,737 --> 02:28:39,710 you 11442 02:28:39,710 --> 02:28:40,606 know 11443 02:28:40,606 --> 02:28:41,273 , the, in the area that 11444 02:28:41,273 --> 02:28:42,541 we've since paved over 11445 02:28:42,541 --> 02:28:42,908 and put 11446 02:28:42,908 --> 02:28:43,242 a toll 11447 02:28:43,242 --> 02:28:43,475 road on 11448 02:28:43,475 --> 02:28:45,177 , um 11449 02:28:45,177 --> 02:28:45,477 . You know, 11450 02:28:45,477 --> 02:28:47,346 the 11451 02:28:47,346 --> 02:28:47,713 , uh, pcbc 11452 02:28:47,713 --> 02:28:49,713 gave, uh 11453 02:28:49,782 --> 02:28:50,183 , 11454 02:28:50,183 --> 02:28:51,483 generally 11455 02:28:51,483 --> 02:28:51,984 around 11456 02:28:51,984 --> 02:28:52,584 $7500 to 11457 02:28:52,584 --> 02:28:53,819 $100,000 a year to 11458 02:28:53,819 --> 02:28:54,119 parks and 11459 02:28:54,119 --> 02:28:56,119 Rec 11460 02:28:56,156 --> 02:28:56,422 . Um, which was, you know 11461 02:28:56,422 --> 02:28:57,560 , 11462 02:28:57,560 --> 02:28:57,356 substantial part of the parks 11463 02:28:57,356 --> 02:28:58,857 and 11464 02:28:58,857 --> 02:28:58,988 rec budget back in the day 11465 02:28:58,988 --> 02:28:59,224 , 11466 02:28:59,224 --> 02:29:00,993 and 11467 02:29:00,993 --> 02:29:01,760 a 11468 02:29:01,760 --> 02:29:03,262 substantial part of the 11469 02:29:03,262 --> 02:29:03,395 pcdc budget back in the day 11470 02:29:03,395 --> 02:29:03,830 , 11471 02:29:03,830 --> 02:29:05,798 but it was 11472 02:29:05,798 --> 02:29:06,660 nowhere 11473 02:29:06,660 --> 02:29:06,298 near 11474 02:29:06,298 --> 02:29:06,566 50% 11475 02:29:06,566 --> 02:29:08,670 or 11476 02:29:08,670 --> 02:29:08,300 even 11477 02:29:08,300 --> 02:29:08,667 15% 11478 02:29:08,667 --> 02:29:09,869 , uh, and 11479 02:29:09,869 --> 02:29:10,436 I think 11480 02:29:10,436 --> 02:29:10,803 that 11481 02:29:10,803 --> 02:29:12,171 this uh 11482 02:29:12,171 --> 02:29:12,838 that 11483 02:29:12,838 --> 02:29:14,373 this resolution 11484 02:29:14,373 --> 02:29:14,840 . 11485 02:29:14,840 --> 02:29:15,175 Uh is just 11486 02:29:15,175 --> 02:29:16,709 , uh, you 11487 02:29:16,709 --> 02:29:16,976 know 11488 02:29:16,976 --> 02:29:18,976 , it's 11489 02:29:19,646 --> 02:29:20,212 if we adhere to this, it's 11490 02:29:20,212 --> 02:29:22,612 going to make it 11491 02:29:23,449 --> 02:29:23,983 virtually 11492 02:29:23,983 --> 02:29:24,283 impossible for the 11493 02:29:24,283 --> 02:29:25,851 pcdc 11494 02:29:25,851 --> 02:29:25,971 to 11495 02:29:25,971 --> 02:29:26,385 to 11496 02:29:26,385 --> 02:29:28,187 fulfill its 11497 02:29:28,187 --> 02:29:28,754 primary job, which 11498 02:29:28,754 --> 02:29:30,489 is 11499 02:29:30,489 --> 02:29:30,990 bringing primary 11500 02:29:30,990 --> 02:29:31,390 jobs to the 11501 02:29:31,390 --> 02:29:32,625 city 11502 02:29:32,625 --> 02:29:33,590 of 11503 02:29:33,590 --> 02:29:33,259 Flugerville 11504 02:29:33,259 --> 02:29:33,793 . David, 11505 02:29:33,793 --> 02:29:34,860 would you, would 11506 02:29:34,860 --> 02:29:35,195 you like to 11507 02:29:35,195 --> 02:29:35,761 , 11508 02:29:35,761 --> 02:29:36,729 uh, make a motion 11509 02:29:36,729 --> 02:29:37,329 amending? 11510 02:29:37,329 --> 02:29:38,164 Yeah, that's what I was about 11511 02:29:38,164 --> 02:29:39,999 to ask. What number do you, are 11512 02:29:39,999 --> 02:29:40,366 are comfortable? We don't have 11513 02:29:40,366 --> 02:29:40,733 the I'm 11514 02:29:40,733 --> 02:29:41,433 like I'm 11515 02:29:41,433 --> 02:29:42,100 concerned 11516 02:29:42,100 --> 02:29:42,368 because I asked for 11517 02:29:42,368 --> 02:29:42,835 the number 11518 02:29:42,835 --> 02:29:43,603 in advance 11519 02:29:43,603 --> 02:29:44,360 . What is 11520 02:29:44,360 --> 02:29:44,770 , what is 11521 02:29:44,770 --> 02:29:46,305 the 50% 11522 02:29:46,305 --> 02:29:46,639 ? Um do you 11523 02:29:46,639 --> 02:29:46,939 mean? Is 11524 02:29:46,939 --> 02:29:48,207 that 11525 02:29:48,207 --> 02:29:48,708 like, is it 11526 02:29:48,708 --> 02:29:50,209 $66 11527 02:29:50,209 --> 02:29:50,776 million a 11528 02:29:50,776 --> 02:29:51,510 year 11529 02:29:51,510 --> 02:29:53,112 . It's revenues. Yeah 11530 02:29:53,112 --> 02:29:53,546 , so 11531 02:29:53,546 --> 02:29:53,779 what I think 11532 02:29:53,779 --> 02:29:54,714 the 11533 02:29:54,714 --> 02:29:55,470 revenue 11534 02:29:55,470 --> 02:29:56,215 revenue 11535 02:29:56,215 --> 02:29:57,483 12 million. Ok 11536 02:29:57,483 --> 02:29:57,850 , so, so 11537 02:29:57,850 --> 02:29:58,151 we're 11538 02:29:58,151 --> 02:29:59,285 talking 11539 02:29:59,285 --> 02:29:59,952 about 11540 02:29:59,952 --> 02:30:00,286 $6 11541 02:30:00,286 --> 02:30:00,620 million 11542 02:30:00,620 --> 02:30:01,555 up to 11543 02:30:01,555 --> 02:30:02,555 $6 11544 02:30:02,555 --> 02:30:02,989 million so my concern 11545 02:30:02,989 --> 02:30:04,156 was such a 11546 02:30:04,156 --> 02:30:04,690 high 11547 02:30:04,690 --> 02:30:05,910 number is 11548 02:30:05,910 --> 02:30:06,425 there's 11549 02:30:06,425 --> 02:30:06,692 also psychology to it 11550 02:30:06,692 --> 02:30:06,994 . 11551 02:30:06,994 --> 02:30:07,422 If we 11552 02:30:07,422 --> 02:30:07,694 allow 11553 02:30:07,694 --> 02:30:08,427 , if 11554 02:30:08,427 --> 02:30:08,995 we 11555 02:30:08,995 --> 02:30:09,762 approve this 11556 02:30:09,762 --> 02:30:10,263 and 11557 02:30:10,263 --> 02:30:11,970 then people 11558 02:30:11,970 --> 02:30:11,397 , yeah, it 11559 02:30:11,397 --> 02:30:11,998 will 11560 02:30:11,998 --> 02:30:12,498 be like, well, we 11561 02:30:12,498 --> 02:30:12,899 have up 11562 02:30:12,899 --> 02:30:13,833 to 11563 02:30:13,833 --> 02:30:15,340 $6 11564 02:30:15,340 --> 02:30:15,368 million in 11565 02:30:15,368 --> 02:30:16,202 general, people, 11566 02:30:16,202 --> 02:30:16,470 when they think they have up to 11567 02:30:16,470 --> 02:30:17,704 a 11568 02:30:17,704 --> 02:30:18,305 certain amount of time there 11569 02:30:18,305 --> 02:30:19,505 or amount of money 11570 02:30:19,505 --> 02:30:20,720 , they're 11571 02:30:20,720 --> 02:30:20,640 going to ask for 11572 02:30:20,640 --> 02:30:22,441 it 11573 02:30:22,441 --> 02:30:23,910 . Well 11574 02:30:23,910 --> 02:30:24,343 , 11575 02:30:24,343 --> 02:30:24,610 whatever the 11576 02:30:24,610 --> 02:30:24,877 $2 11577 02:30:24,877 --> 02:30:25,278 million that 11578 02:30:25,278 --> 02:30:26,646 percentage 11579 02:30:26,646 --> 02:30:26,979 , so 11580 02:30:26,979 --> 02:30:27,213 1/6. I 11581 02:30:27,213 --> 02:30:27,480 , I mean, 11582 02:30:27,480 --> 02:30:28,415 I 11583 02:30:28,415 --> 02:30:29,150 , I 11584 02:30:29,150 --> 02:30:29,482 like the idea of a 11585 02:30:29,482 --> 02:30:31,350 percentage 11586 02:30:31,350 --> 02:30:31,884 , especially because 11587 02:30:31,884 --> 02:30:33,619 if sales tax 11588 02:30:33,619 --> 02:30:33,765 revenue goes down 11589 02:30:33,765 --> 02:30:34,353 . 11590 02:30:34,353 --> 02:30:35,555 For example, right, that 11591 02:30:35,555 --> 02:30:36,189 number 11592 02:30:36,189 --> 02:30:36,589 would go down and 11593 02:30:36,589 --> 02:30:37,925 likewise if 11594 02:30:37,925 --> 02:30:38,224 we have a 11595 02:30:38,224 --> 02:30:38,525 great 11596 02:30:38,525 --> 02:30:38,792 year 11597 02:30:38,792 --> 02:30:39,825 , we'd 11598 02:30:39,825 --> 02:30:40,360 have 11599 02:30:40,360 --> 02:30:40,660 more to, to 11600 02:30:40,660 --> 02:30:40,960 work 11601 02:30:40,960 --> 02:30:42,428 with 11602 02:30:42,428 --> 02:30:43,290 . Uh 11603 02:30:43,290 --> 02:30:43,430 , I 11604 02:30:43,430 --> 02:30:44,564 also 11605 02:30:44,564 --> 02:30:44,864 think 11606 02:30:44,864 --> 02:30:45,164 that 11607 02:30:45,164 --> 02:30:45,499 I've 11608 02:30:45,499 --> 02:30:47,499 not seen 11609 02:30:49,569 --> 02:30:49,869 other proposals for 11610 02:30:49,869 --> 02:30:51,337 pcdc 11611 02:30:51,337 --> 02:30:52,238 dollars right now 11612 02:30:52,238 --> 02:30:53,873 , um, in terms 11613 02:30:53,873 --> 02:30:54,173 of things that we could invest 11614 02:30:54,173 --> 02:30:54,607 in 11615 02:30:54,607 --> 02:30:55,742 that maybe we 11616 02:30:55,742 --> 02:30:56,442 would rank 11617 02:30:56,442 --> 02:30:57,744 higher and so I think we 11618 02:30:57,744 --> 02:30:58,211 could 11619 02:30:58,211 --> 02:30:58,711 always 11620 02:30:58,711 --> 02:30:58,978 revisit this at a 11621 02:30:58,978 --> 02:30:59,345 future 11622 02:30:59,345 --> 02:31:00,179 time if 11623 02:31:00,179 --> 02:31:00,447 there is 11624 02:31:00,447 --> 02:31:00,813 an 11625 02:31:00,813 --> 02:31:01,315 investment 11626 02:31:01,315 --> 02:31:01,748 opportunity that 11627 02:31:01,748 --> 02:31:02,883 we would like 11628 02:31:02,883 --> 02:31:03,350 to 11629 02:31:03,350 --> 02:31:03,783 pursue, but 11630 02:31:03,783 --> 02:31:05,118 I think quality 11631 02:31:05,118 --> 02:31:05,685 of life for our 11632 02:31:05,685 --> 02:31:05,985 citizens is, I 11633 02:31:05,985 --> 02:31:06,486 mean 11634 02:31:06,486 --> 02:31:06,819 , that's what we 11635 02:31:06,819 --> 02:31:07,287 all 11636 02:31:07,287 --> 02:31:08,221 hear 11637 02:31:08,221 --> 02:31:08,454 about all day, every day 11638 02:31:08,454 --> 02:31:08,788 , and I 11639 02:31:08,788 --> 02:31:09,355 think 11640 02:31:09,355 --> 02:31:09,856 it's a, I 11641 02:31:09,856 --> 02:31:10,624 think it's a 11642 02:31:10,624 --> 02:31:11,558 very 11643 02:31:11,558 --> 02:31:11,724 worthy investment 11644 02:31:11,724 --> 02:31:12,250 . So if 11645 02:31:12,250 --> 02:31:12,325 I'm 11646 02:31:12,325 --> 02:31:12,859 hearing 11647 02:31:12,859 --> 02:31:13,159 you correctly 11648 02:31:13,159 --> 02:31:14,327 , you 11649 02:31:14,327 --> 02:31:14,727 want 11650 02:31:14,727 --> 02:31:15,428 the 11651 02:31:15,428 --> 02:31:15,628 pcdc to make 11652 02:31:15,628 --> 02:31:15,962 it a 11653 02:31:15,962 --> 02:31:16,296 problem 11654 02:31:16,296 --> 02:31:16,896 for us 11655 02:31:16,896 --> 02:31:17,263 to have to 11656 02:31:17,263 --> 02:31:17,997 make 11657 02:31:17,997 --> 02:31:18,798 decisions on it 11658 02:31:18,798 --> 02:31:19,132 . Give us bring 11659 02:31:19,132 --> 02:31:19,465 up so 11660 02:31:19,465 --> 02:31:20,567 many 11661 02:31:20,567 --> 02:31:20,900 deals that we 11662 02:31:20,900 --> 02:31:21,334 would 11663 02:31:21,334 --> 02:31:22,602 be worried 11664 02:31:22,602 --> 02:31:22,869 about 11665 02:31:22,869 --> 02:31:23,503 spending 20% 11666 02:31:23,503 --> 02:31:24,938 of the budget on parks 11667 02:31:24,938 --> 02:31:25,405 , right? 11668 02:31:25,405 --> 02:31:27,405 Because we're 11669 02:31:28,700 --> 02:31:28,575 growing our, our 11670 02:31:28,575 --> 02:31:29,409 commercial tax base 11671 02:31:29,409 --> 02:31:29,542 , um, I 11672 02:31:29,542 --> 02:31:30,176 also 11673 02:31:30,176 --> 02:31:31,444 think there's a, yeah 11674 02:31:31,444 --> 02:31:32,780 , I 11675 02:31:32,780 --> 02:31:32,312 appreciate that. Um 11676 02:31:32,312 --> 02:31:32,679 , I 11677 02:31:32,679 --> 02:31:34,800 , I also 11678 02:31:34,800 --> 02:31:34,681 think there's 11679 02:31:34,681 --> 02:31:35,181 other 11680 02:31:35,181 --> 02:31:36,516 infrastructure 11681 02:31:36,516 --> 02:31:37,150 type 11682 02:31:37,150 --> 02:31:37,517 projects 11683 02:31:37,517 --> 02:31:38,952 that um 11684 02:31:38,952 --> 02:31:40,520 you know, I'm 11685 02:31:40,520 --> 02:31:40,820 I'm 11686 02:31:40,820 --> 02:31:41,421 just 11687 02:31:41,421 --> 02:31:42,656 hesitant to limit 11688 02:31:42,656 --> 02:31:42,956 it 11689 02:31:42,956 --> 02:31:43,457 only to 11690 02:31:43,457 --> 02:31:43,823 parks and rec 11691 02:31:43,823 --> 02:31:44,900 , if especially if 11692 02:31:44,900 --> 02:31:45,910 it 11693 02:31:45,910 --> 02:31:45,525 was at 11694 02:31:45,525 --> 02:31:45,825 a 11695 02:31:45,825 --> 02:31:46,126 50% 11696 02:31:46,126 --> 02:31:48,126 level 11697 02:31:48,194 --> 02:31:48,495 . Um 11698 02:31:48,495 --> 02:31:48,995 , I 11699 02:31:48,995 --> 02:31:49,596 just prefer 11700 02:31:49,596 --> 02:31:49,930 to 11701 02:31:49,930 --> 02:31:50,430 like 11702 02:31:50,430 --> 02:31:50,830 have 11703 02:31:50,830 --> 02:31:51,865 projects be 11704 02:31:51,865 --> 02:31:52,650 brought 11705 02:31:52,650 --> 02:31:52,466 forward 11706 02:31:52,466 --> 02:31:52,966 each year 11707 02:31:52,966 --> 02:31:53,433 rather than saying, 11708 02:31:53,433 --> 02:31:54,267 you have up 11709 02:31:54,267 --> 02:31:54,601 to this 11710 02:31:54,601 --> 02:31:55,268 amount for 11711 02:31:55,268 --> 02:31:55,535 what, what you choose 11712 02:31:55,535 --> 02:31:56,436 , and 11713 02:31:56,436 --> 02:31:56,903 then 11714 02:31:56,903 --> 02:31:57,771 we could 11715 02:31:57,771 --> 02:31:59,239 choose to 11716 02:31:59,239 --> 02:31:59,506 , it's 11717 02:31:59,506 --> 02:31:59,940 always 11718 02:31:59,940 --> 02:32:00,640 harder to 11719 02:32:00,640 --> 02:32:02,640 take away 11720 02:32:03,277 --> 02:32:03,577 . So if you 11721 02:32:03,577 --> 02:32:04,770 know 11722 02:32:04,770 --> 02:32:04,345 , psychologically, if you, 11723 02:32:04,345 --> 02:32:05,678 if 11724 02:32:05,678 --> 02:32:06,346 you give someone, it's 11725 02:32:06,346 --> 02:32:07,647 always harder to take 11726 02:32:07,647 --> 02:32:07,915 away 11727 02:32:07,915 --> 02:32:08,882 than 11728 02:32:08,882 --> 02:32:09,850 to make that decision each year 11729 02:32:09,850 --> 02:32:10,384 So 11730 02:32:10,384 --> 02:32:10,717 , so correct me if I'm wrong 11731 02:32:10,717 --> 02:32:10,984 though 11732 02:32:10,984 --> 02:32:12,185 , like 11733 02:32:12,185 --> 02:32:12,786 this 11734 02:32:12,786 --> 02:32:13,186 is 11735 02:32:13,186 --> 02:32:14,721 really 11736 02:32:14,721 --> 02:32:14,855 almost guidance to take 11737 02:32:14,855 --> 02:32:15,622 into 11738 02:32:15,622 --> 02:32:16,490 the budgeting process. So I 11739 02:32:16,490 --> 02:32:16,823 , I 11740 02:32:16,823 --> 02:32:17,491 don't 11741 02:32:17,491 --> 02:32:18,291 , I think we would still 11742 02:32:18,291 --> 02:32:19,920 see those projects come 11743 02:32:19,920 --> 02:32:19,526 through 11744 02:32:19,526 --> 02:32:19,893 This 11745 02:32:19,893 --> 02:32:20,193 wouldn't 11746 02:32:20,193 --> 02:32:21,295 stop 11747 02:32:21,295 --> 02:32:21,728 that 11748 02:32:21,728 --> 02:32:22,195 . We'd 11749 02:32:22,195 --> 02:32:22,864 still 11750 02:32:22,864 --> 02:32:23,530 be 11751 02:32:23,530 --> 02:32:23,730 approving 11752 02:32:23,730 --> 02:32:24,498 the 11753 02:32:24,498 --> 02:32:24,631 individual items as they 11754 02:32:24,631 --> 02:32:25,650 come 11755 02:32:25,650 --> 02:32:26,533 through, as 11756 02:32:26,533 --> 02:32:26,967 with 11757 02:32:26,967 --> 02:32:27,901 pcbc 11758 02:32:27,901 --> 02:32:28,168 board 11759 02:32:28,168 --> 02:32:28,836 , 11760 02:32:28,836 --> 02:32:29,703 the pcbc board would 11761 02:32:29,703 --> 02:32:30,203 . Operate 11762 02:32:30,203 --> 02:32:30,771 under the 11763 02:32:30,771 --> 02:32:31,505 planning assumption 11764 02:32:31,505 --> 02:32:32,606 that half of their money is 11765 02:32:32,606 --> 02:32:33,407 put 11766 02:32:33,407 --> 02:32:34,675 on before they get started 11767 02:32:34,675 --> 02:32:34,781 . No 11768 02:32:34,781 --> 02:32:35,475 , 11769 02:32:35,475 --> 02:32:35,809 it wouldn't because that's what 11770 02:32:35,809 --> 02:32:36,877 I think 11771 02:32:36,877 --> 02:32:37,210 that's 11772 02:32:37,210 --> 02:32:37,677 what this, 11773 02:32:37,677 --> 02:32:37,944 that's what 11774 02:32:37,944 --> 02:32:39,746 this 11775 02:32:39,746 --> 02:32:40,448 resolution 11776 02:32:40,448 --> 02:32:41,415 would psychologically and 11777 02:32:41,415 --> 02:32:41,882 and, 11778 02:32:41,882 --> 02:32:42,149 and business 11779 02:32:42,149 --> 02:32:42,649 wise 11780 02:32:42,649 --> 02:32:44,649 , if the, the 11781 02:32:44,718 --> 02:32:45,180 that's the resolution, yeah, 11782 02:32:45,180 --> 02:32:46,119 what 11783 02:32:46,119 --> 02:32:46,653 do you, what are you 11784 02:32:46,653 --> 02:32:48,222 thinking about 11785 02:32:48,222 --> 02:32:48,341 ? Because 11786 02:32:48,341 --> 02:32:48,956 if 11787 02:32:48,956 --> 02:32:49,389 you're, I, I, I was 11788 02:32:49,389 --> 02:32:50,591 amenable to 11789 02:32:50,591 --> 02:32:51,124 our 11790 02:32:51,124 --> 02:32:51,425 original discussion 11791 02:32:51,425 --> 02:32:51,758 , which 11792 02:32:51,758 --> 02:32:52,826 was 11793 02:32:52,826 --> 02:32:53,527 2 11794 02:32:53,527 --> 02:32:53,727 2.1 million the 11795 02:32:53,727 --> 02:32:54,228 first 11796 02:32:54,228 --> 02:32:55,462 year and then 11797 02:32:55,462 --> 02:32:55,762 to evaluate it 11798 02:32:55,762 --> 02:32:56,960 each 11799 02:32:56,960 --> 02:32:57,164 year as 11800 02:32:57,164 --> 02:32:57,564 to 11801 02:32:57,564 --> 02:32:57,798 the success 11802 02:32:57,798 --> 02:32:58,498 of 11803 02:32:58,498 --> 02:32:59,433 the operations of 11804 02:32:59,433 --> 02:33:00,234 the 11805 02:33:00,234 --> 02:33:00,668 recreation center 11806 02:33:00,668 --> 02:33:00,834 , um, and 11807 02:33:00,834 --> 02:33:01,201 , and 11808 02:33:01,201 --> 02:33:01,902 look at 11809 02:33:01,902 --> 02:33:02,369 it each 11810 02:33:02,369 --> 02:33:02,703 year rather 11811 02:33:02,703 --> 02:33:03,300 than 11812 02:33:03,300 --> 02:33:03,905 having 11813 02:33:03,905 --> 02:33:04,338 it 11814 02:33:04,338 --> 02:33:05,506 just 11815 02:33:05,506 --> 02:33:05,940 automatically dedicated. I 11816 02:33:05,940 --> 02:33:06,840 would like 11817 02:33:06,840 --> 02:33:07,107 to evaluate 11818 02:33:07,107 --> 02:33:07,441 the 11819 02:33:07,441 --> 02:33:07,741 need 11820 02:33:07,741 --> 02:33:07,975 for 11821 02:33:07,975 --> 02:33:08,775 the 11822 02:33:08,775 --> 02:33:09,209 recreation 11823 02:33:09,209 --> 02:33:09,410 center to 11824 02:33:09,410 --> 02:33:09,744 be 11825 02:33:09,744 --> 02:33:11,478 funded 11826 02:33:11,478 --> 02:33:11,946 by pcdc 11827 02:33:11,946 --> 02:33:12,245 for the 11828 02:33:12,245 --> 02:33:12,546 sales 11829 02:33:12,546 --> 02:33:13,800 tax 11830 02:33:13,800 --> 02:33:13,347 , but then this 11831 02:33:13,347 --> 02:33:13,680 is just 11832 02:33:13,680 --> 02:33:14,181 saying 11833 02:33:14,181 --> 02:33:14,915 what you're going to get 11834 02:33:14,915 --> 02:33:15,616 this pot of money, and if you 11835 02:33:15,616 --> 02:33:16,249 don't use it for the recreation 11836 02:33:16,249 --> 02:33:17,451 center, then we can use 11837 02:33:17,451 --> 02:33:17,586 it for 11838 02:33:17,586 --> 02:33:18,218 . 11839 02:33:18,218 --> 02:33:18,852 Would you like to make that in 11840 02:33:18,852 --> 02:33:20,187 the form of a motion 11841 02:33:20,187 --> 02:33:21,622 ? Yeah 11842 02:33:21,622 --> 02:33:21,955 . Uh 11843 02:33:21,955 --> 02:33:22,756 I, I 11844 02:33:22,756 --> 02:33:24,191 , I moved to approve with 11845 02:33:24,191 --> 02:33:24,692 the 11846 02:33:24,692 --> 02:33:25,590 amendment that it 11847 02:33:25,590 --> 02:33:27,590 be 1% 11848 02:33:28,629 --> 02:33:29,396 . 11849 02:33:29,396 --> 02:33:30,865 Outwards. Ok, let's, let's, ok 11850 02:33:30,865 --> 02:33:31,532 , 11851 02:33:31,532 --> 02:33:32,166 ok, let's, let's, ok,. Oh, hold 11852 02:33:32,166 --> 02:33:32,500 on, hold on, I've got a motion 11853 02:33:32,500 --> 02:33:33,434 on the 11854 02:33:33,434 --> 02:33:35,434 table 11855 02:33:35,570 --> 02:33:35,769 . Motion 11856 02:33:35,769 --> 02:33:36,370 fails for 11857 02:33:36,370 --> 02:33:36,704 lack of a second. Ok 11858 02:33:36,704 --> 02:33:37,805 , I would 11859 02:33:37,805 --> 02:33:38,339 , 11860 02:33:38,339 --> 02:33:39,773 oh, would you like 11861 02:33:39,773 --> 02:33:40,400 my 11862 02:33:40,400 --> 02:33:40,341 motion or 11863 02:33:40,341 --> 02:33:40,975 what 11864 02:33:40,975 --> 02:33:42,543 what what I, this is 11865 02:33:42,543 --> 02:33:43,770 because I want to get to a 11866 02:33:43,770 --> 02:33:43,478 motion though 11867 02:33:43,478 --> 02:33:44,678 . If we're, if 11868 02:33:44,678 --> 02:33:45,145 you're 11869 02:33:45,145 --> 02:33:46,815 having concerns 11870 02:33:46,815 --> 02:33:47,481 that's 11871 02:33:47,481 --> 02:33:47,781 fine. I'm trying to understand 11872 02:33:47,781 --> 02:33:49,150 that 11873 02:33:49,150 --> 02:33:49,883 . What I'm trying to figure 11874 02:33:49,883 --> 02:33:51,152 out is what we can get you 11875 02:33:51,152 --> 02:33:51,652 to a 11876 02:33:51,652 --> 02:33:51,952 solution here 11877 02:33:51,952 --> 02:33:53,320 . So I'm 11878 02:33:53,320 --> 02:33:53,888 hearing 11879 02:33:53,888 --> 02:33:54,288 50%, but it's not 11880 02:33:54,288 --> 02:33:55,723 really 11881 02:33:55,723 --> 02:33:56,490 50% 11882 02:33:56,490 --> 02:33:57,191 because riskly speaking, it 11883 02:33:57,191 --> 02:33:57,725 will be something that we 11884 02:33:57,725 --> 02:33:58,325 see 11885 02:33:58,325 --> 02:33:58,592 every year. I 11886 02:33:58,592 --> 02:33:58,759 mean 11887 02:33:58,759 --> 02:33:59,393 it's 11888 02:33:59,393 --> 02:34:00,528 guidance in the budget 11889 02:34:00,528 --> 02:34:01,280 , exactly 11890 02:34:01,280 --> 02:34:01,425 with that. It 11891 02:34:01,425 --> 02:34:01,595 is fair 11892 02:34:01,595 --> 02:34:02,596 to 11893 02:34:02,596 --> 02:34:03,398 say 11894 02:34:03,398 --> 02:34:03,631 that if they're 11895 02:34:03,631 --> 02:34:04,640 being 11896 02:34:04,640 --> 02:34:04,865 conservative 11897 02:34:04,865 --> 02:34:05,333 , as you know 11898 02:34:05,333 --> 02:34:06,000 , 11899 02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:06,534 little city working as they 11900 02:34:06,534 --> 02:34:07,301 should be operate 11901 02:34:07,301 --> 02:34:07,568 is that 11902 02:34:07,568 --> 02:34:07,835 , yes, 11903 02:34:07,835 --> 02:34:08,135 it 11904 02:34:08,135 --> 02:34:09,203 can be 11905 02:34:09,203 --> 02:34:09,336 that 50% it should 11906 02:34:09,336 --> 02:34:09,937 be 11907 02:34:09,937 --> 02:34:10,604 operating from that 11908 02:34:10,604 --> 02:34:11,438 . However 11909 02:34:11,438 --> 02:34:12,730 , 11910 02:34:12,730 --> 02:34:12,806 you also brought up the fact 11911 02:34:12,806 --> 02:34:14,175 that you think it's going to 11912 02:34:14,175 --> 02:34:14,775 stop infrastructure projects, 11913 02:34:14,775 --> 02:34:16,645 which I haven't heard 11914 02:34:16,645 --> 02:34:17,110 . From 11915 02:34:17,110 --> 02:34:18,780 anybody 11916 02:34:18,780 --> 02:34:18,479 . Is 11917 02:34:18,479 --> 02:34:19,246 a possibility. I 11918 02:34:19,246 --> 02:34:20,314 don't know about stop. I'm 11919 02:34:20,314 --> 02:34:20,748 just 11920 02:34:20,748 --> 02:34:21,148 saying that 11921 02:34:21,148 --> 02:34:22,616 the 50, you 11922 02:34:22,616 --> 02:34:23,117 taking 11923 02:34:23,117 --> 02:34:23,617 $6 11924 02:34:23,617 --> 02:34:24,180 million and you're 11925 02:34:24,180 --> 02:34:24,985 allocating 11926 02:34:24,985 --> 02:34:25,252 it to 11927 02:34:25,252 --> 02:34:25,520 Parks 11928 02:34:25,520 --> 02:34:26,200 and 11929 02:34:26,200 --> 02:34:26,287 Rec 11930 02:34:26,287 --> 02:34:27,588 or 11931 02:34:27,588 --> 02:34:28,222 everyone has 11932 02:34:28,222 --> 02:34:28,623 the assumption 11933 02:34:28,623 --> 02:34:29,490 that it's 11934 02:34:29,490 --> 02:34:29,723 going to 11935 02:34:29,723 --> 02:34:30,240 be 11936 02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:30,424 allocated 11937 02:34:30,424 --> 02:34:30,825 to Parks 11938 02:34:30,825 --> 02:34:32,326 and Rec 11939 02:34:32,326 --> 02:34:34,161 . Then um 11940 02:34:34,161 --> 02:34:34,495 . 11941 02:34:34,495 --> 02:34:34,929 That's 11942 02:34:34,929 --> 02:34:35,363 the assumption and 11943 02:34:35,363 --> 02:34:36,430 that's what 11944 02:34:36,430 --> 02:34:37,131 people operate by. 11945 02:34:37,131 --> 02:34:38,900 And so, you know, I 11946 02:34:38,900 --> 02:34:39,167 just 11947 02:34:39,167 --> 02:34:39,901 , I'm 11948 02:34:39,901 --> 02:34:40,635 concerned about allocating 11949 02:34:40,635 --> 02:34:40,936 that 11950 02:34:40,936 --> 02:34:41,769 much 11951 02:34:41,769 --> 02:34:43,105 , um, and just 11952 02:34:43,105 --> 02:34:43,671 having 11953 02:34:43,671 --> 02:34:43,847 it 11954 02:34:43,847 --> 02:34:44,572 be 11955 02:34:44,572 --> 02:34:45,506 assumed that that's going to 11956 02:34:45,506 --> 02:34:46,374 be 11957 02:34:46,374 --> 02:34:46,641 Parks and Rec every year, and I 11958 02:34:46,641 --> 02:34:47,776 I 11959 02:34:47,776 --> 02:34:48,209 think 11960 02:34:48,209 --> 02:34:48,509 naturally 11961 02:34:48,509 --> 02:34:48,976 that's going 11962 02:34:48,976 --> 02:34:50,177 to, that's how 11963 02:34:50,177 --> 02:34:50,578 people 11964 02:34:50,578 --> 02:34:50,750 operate 11965 02:34:50,750 --> 02:34:51,120 . 11966 02:34:51,120 --> 02:34:51,412 So I 11967 02:34:51,412 --> 02:34:52,580 would rather 11968 02:34:52,580 --> 02:34:53,281 go back to 11969 02:34:53,281 --> 02:34:53,747 our 11970 02:34:53,747 --> 02:34:54,150 original plan 11971 02:34:54,150 --> 02:34:54,749 with 11972 02:34:54,749 --> 02:34:55,416 dollar 11973 02:34:55,416 --> 02:34:56,150 amounts that 11974 02:34:56,150 --> 02:34:56,348 was presented 11975 02:34:56,348 --> 02:34:56,585 at 11976 02:34:56,585 --> 02:34:57,510 the 11977 02:34:57,510 --> 02:34:57,385 retreat, which 11978 02:34:57,385 --> 02:34:58,286 I don't 11979 02:34:58,286 --> 02:34:58,619 remember what they are 11980 02:34:58,619 --> 02:34:58,920 off the 11981 02:34:58,920 --> 02:34:59,453 top 11982 02:34:59,453 --> 02:35:00,354 of my head and 11983 02:35:00,354 --> 02:35:00,788 what wasn't 11984 02:35:00,788 --> 02:35:01,556 included 11985 02:35:01,556 --> 02:35:02,560 here 11986 02:35:02,560 --> 02:35:02,623 . I'm 11987 02:35:02,623 --> 02:35:02,857 seeing the 11988 02:35:02,857 --> 02:35:03,157 , 11989 02:35:03,157 --> 02:35:03,525 the 11990 02:35:03,525 --> 02:35:04,225 , the 2 11991 02:35:04,225 --> 02:35:05,626 . 1 million 11992 02:35:05,626 --> 02:35:05,927 uh, in 11993 02:35:05,927 --> 02:35:06,595 the 11994 02:35:06,595 --> 02:35:08,629 , uh, in the resolution 11995 02:35:08,629 --> 02:35:09,498 . Is 11996 02:35:09,498 --> 02:35:11,132 that, is that the number that 11997 02:35:11,132 --> 02:35:11,733 we discussed at the retreat? So 11998 02:35:11,733 --> 02:35:13,350 there's multiple 11999 02:35:13,350 --> 02:35:13,301 numbers 12000 02:35:13,301 --> 02:35:14,360 . So 12001 02:35:14,360 --> 02:35:14,836 you of course have the 12002 02:35:14,836 --> 02:35:15,436 debt 12003 02:35:15,436 --> 02:35:15,803 service, which is 12004 02:35:15,803 --> 02:35:17,538 um for 12005 02:35:17,538 --> 02:35:18,500 fy 27 12006 02:35:18,500 --> 02:35:18,373 would be 12007 02:35:18,373 --> 02:35:19,941 3 12008 02:35:19,941 --> 02:35:20,541 million plus 12009 02:35:20,541 --> 02:35:20,908 the 2.1 12010 02:35:20,908 --> 02:35:22,877 million 12011 02:35:22,877 --> 02:35:24,312 um, and then typically 12012 02:35:24,312 --> 02:35:24,712 we'll see 12013 02:35:24,712 --> 02:35:25,213 um our parks 12014 02:35:25,213 --> 02:35:26,315 department want 12015 02:35:26,315 --> 02:35:26,470 to look at 12016 02:35:26,470 --> 02:35:27,810 a 12017 02:35:27,810 --> 02:35:28,483 replacement of a park 12018 02:35:28,483 --> 02:35:29,170 . So maybe 12019 02:35:29,170 --> 02:35:29,517 I could round 12020 02:35:29,517 --> 02:35:31,453 a 5 point 12021 02:35:31,453 --> 02:35:33,453 . 1.5 or 12022 02:35:33,455 --> 02:35:35,890 something from there, 5.15 12023 02:35:35,890 --> 02:35:35,490 . Is 12024 02:35:35,490 --> 02:35:35,890 the total 12025 02:35:35,890 --> 02:35:37,392 So 12026 02:35:37,392 --> 02:35:37,659 I feel 12027 02:35:37,659 --> 02:35:37,892 like 12028 02:35:37,892 --> 02:35:38,590 the 12029 02:35:38,590 --> 02:35:38,593 uh 12030 02:35:38,593 --> 02:35:39,995 the debt service 12031 02:35:39,995 --> 02:35:40,195 is 12032 02:35:40,195 --> 02:35:40,995 already 12033 02:35:40,995 --> 02:35:42,363 established, but I'm right, but 12034 02:35:42,363 --> 02:35:43,131 I'm kind of but that would 12035 02:35:43,131 --> 02:35:44,990 still be a part of this pie 12036 02:35:44,990 --> 02:35:44,632 . 12037 02:35:44,632 --> 02:35:44,933 That's that part 12038 02:35:44,933 --> 02:35:45,567 of it, and 12039 02:35:45,567 --> 02:35:46,501 it's part of this pie 12040 02:35:46,501 --> 02:35:46,801 , but 12041 02:35:46,801 --> 02:35:47,569 it's 12042 02:35:47,569 --> 02:35:48,690 already established as it need 12043 02:35:48,690 --> 02:35:49,270 to be included 12044 02:35:49,270 --> 02:35:49,738 in this to give 12045 02:35:49,738 --> 02:35:51,139 you like the 12046 02:35:51,139 --> 02:35:52,273 , the resolution 12047 02:35:52,273 --> 02:35:54,800 totality would include that. So 12048 02:35:54,800 --> 02:35:54,275 Because Melody, I'd, I'd like 12049 02:35:54,275 --> 02:35:55,945 to 12050 02:35:55,945 --> 02:35:56,345 hear what you 12051 02:35:56,345 --> 02:35:56,811 would be uh 12052 02:35:56,811 --> 02:35:58,130 what would 12053 02:35:58,130 --> 02:35:58,346 be acceptable 12054 02:35:58,346 --> 02:35:58,780 for 12055 02:35:58,780 --> 02:35:59,882 you and 12056 02:35:59,882 --> 02:36:00,215 see 12057 02:36:00,215 --> 02:36:00,448 if it 12058 02:36:00,448 --> 02:36:00,915 is 12059 02:36:00,915 --> 02:36:01,316 also 12060 02:36:01,316 --> 02:36:02,417 acceptable 12061 02:36:02,417 --> 02:36:02,785 for other members of 12062 02:36:02,785 --> 02:36:04,785 counter 12063 02:36:05,530 --> 02:36:05,520 . Well 12064 02:36:05,520 --> 02:36:07,289 , unfortunately I 12065 02:36:07,289 --> 02:36:07,789 don't have the numbers for the 12066 02:36:07,789 --> 02:36:09,240 other few years 12067 02:36:09,240 --> 02:36:09,657 . So the only 12068 02:36:09,657 --> 02:36:09,891 number I know right now 12069 02:36:09,891 --> 02:36:10,158 is 2.1, 12070 02:36:10,158 --> 02:36:11,259 so 12071 02:36:11,259 --> 02:36:11,793 I'm 12072 02:36:11,793 --> 02:36:12,460 , uh, you know, I would 12073 02:36:12,460 --> 02:36:13,795 make a motion that we 12074 02:36:13,795 --> 02:36:14,129 , um, 12075 02:36:14,129 --> 02:36:15,698 allocate 12076 02:36:15,698 --> 02:36:16,310 2.1 12077 02:36:16,310 --> 02:36:16,364 million 12078 02:36:16,364 --> 02:36:17,650 from 12079 02:36:17,650 --> 02:36:18,433 fiscal 12080 02:36:18,433 --> 02:36:19,267 2027 budget to the 12081 02:36:19,267 --> 02:36:21,267 Monarch Recreation Center 12082 02:36:24,573 --> 02:36:25,240 . I've 12083 02:36:25,240 --> 02:36:25,775 got a second. Any 12084 02:36:25,775 --> 02:36:27,775 further 12085 02:36:27,776 --> 02:36:29,776 discussion discussion 12086 02:36:33,982 --> 02:36:34,382 . Where 12087 02:36:34,382 --> 02:36:36,382 did I go 12088 02:36:50,433 --> 02:36:51,767 All right, that 12089 02:36:51,767 --> 02:36:52,200 , uh, 12090 02:36:52,200 --> 02:36:52,735 that passed 12091 02:36:52,735 --> 02:36:53,836 . All right 12092 02:36:53,836 --> 02:36:53,971 . Uh 12093 02:36:53,971 --> 02:36:54,669 , 12094 02:36:54,669 --> 02:36:55,103 that brings us to the end of 12095 02:36:55,103 --> 02:36:56,439 our agenda 12096 02:36:56,439 --> 02:36:56,705 . Do 12097 02:36:56,705 --> 02:36:56,972 we 12098 02:36:56,972 --> 02:36:57,123 have 12099 02:36:57,123 --> 02:36:57,572 any 12100 02:36:57,572 --> 02:36:58,607 other, uh, was 12101 02:36:58,607 --> 02:36:59,241 there any 12102 02:36:59,241 --> 02:36:59,542 business I missed? Anything we 12103 02:36:59,542 --> 02:37:01,900 need 12104 02:37:01,900 --> 02:37:01,343 to discuss before I 12105 02:37:01,343 --> 02:37:01,943 raise 12106 02:37:01,943 --> 02:37:03,312 the gavel 12107 02:37:03,312 --> 02:37:05,312 . It is 12108 02:37:05,313 --> 02:37:07,313 , uh, 9:35 12109 02:37:07,816 --> 02:37:08,000 .