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Are you ready, Ms. Lynette? Okay. All righty. It is 531 and we're going to do our roll call, Councilman Heitzman, Councilman Cummings, Councilman Dane. I'm here, Councilman Jones, Councilman Major, and Councilman Ebrosio. Very good. Do we have anyone on the public form? Okay. And we have one item on the regular agenda to discuss and act on charter amendments.

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amendments to be placed on the May 4th, 2024 special election ballot.

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I'm sorry, I caught you mid-shoot.

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Oh, do we need a wait for Brenda, or are we?

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So Mayor Counsel, tonight you have a work session over the what to put on the ballot for

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the charter review, from the charter review committee.

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There were 40 items that the Charter Review Committee introduced to you last council meeting on Thursday

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Ideally you'll narrow that down

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somewhat so that the ballot is not overwhelmed

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overwhelming

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But I guess you have members of the Charter Review Committee here. You have two council people that said on that committee

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President and Lynette and I interacted and we're happy to help with any discussion that you may have.

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So,

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what the best way is going to get through all of these, I think, is that it may be because

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you go through each council member and see if there's any ones that were plaring and you're like

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possibly, yes, those are ones that you can be on the ballot, ones that you're in at eight and

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others that you were like, no.

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Because I think what that will do is help us decide

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is that it be a development.

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I've had a couple of questions for Brenda.

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lot of them that were generally rude.

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So there was a couple of them that were just correct

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in language that was out of date.

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Did we say correct?

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All items that were made is not to this date.

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And then we can put like six of them under that.

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And that will know when they go to the ballot,

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oh, this is just a hierarchy language.

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You know, yes, yes.

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Yes, yes, yes.

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You have no no no no.

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Uh, ones that are, uh, there was several of them that said

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to emptier the state bomb.

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And we just put that as a kind of worry.

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And then the events under there.

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So then that would just kind of devil put

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a lot of under two votes.

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So about two directly?

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Oh, so they could just say, yeah, right.

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When I think that we would have home.

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Yeah, that's a take.

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You're training.

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You're training.

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It was either a trainer or a factor.

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What I hear you saying is that we put it on that TV touchscreen and she's the

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Vanessa White, or Hannah White, and she's hitting the, putting the X's where they belong based on the touch screen, right?

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No. It's one proposition, one item. And as I told the commission, there's one of them.

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where there are two things in the same proposition and it like keeps me awake but I just couldn't

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bear to separate them because then they would have each been so simple and they were

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sort of connected but no I mean I think the matrix was really helpful and we started on that process

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until it suddenly hit me that really the charter commission was supposed to

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identify the amendment and it's your job to call them, not the commission's

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job. So that if something didn't come forward from them to you and somebody says

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we'll wait a minute why wasn't this on the ballot you guys can answer that

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question. I have a question. So the amendments that are

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recommended where it's they're changing the language to conform to state law. If we don't

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change those amendments to where they're not conforming to state law, what are the repercussions

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of that? So as a home rural city, you have the ability to vary from state law. I think in the times

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where we there was one place on the inspection of public records where we felt like that was important

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because the Public Information Act gives some additional notice to the employees

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and the charter said that they could come to City Hall and demand to see any public record at any time.

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And so, as a home rural city, you can do that, but we didn't think it was a good idea.

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So that was one where we said we wanted to conform with state law.

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We don't always have to conform with state law.

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There are some places where we do and some places where we don't because we are home

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rule.

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Okay.

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So, yes.

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You guys are asking all the good questions that the commission asked, so that means that

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you're really thinking about it.

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So Mayor, I think maybe Councilwoman Jones had a good idea of taking them on one at a time

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and just going down to say it because I know on Thursday you had asked each

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person to kind of come up with the list of their top five so those could get

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identified through this list but if you'd like to just go through the list

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and say okay who all believes number one needs to to be on here and you know

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did it make your top five and then kind of start narrowing it down that way

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because there's some that are obviously going to be seven knows across the board

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that don't make the list that you can eliminate that way it makes sense to me so you know my

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five around that being 18 gradually because there were more than 18 that I were worthy

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I don't know if there is, I'm not asking, if there is, if Larry absolutely not, it's all going to the voters.

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What is the success rate of voting on 40 minutes?

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So, what if we just say, can you take out all of the votes and let the voters find the rest?

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Well, let's just pick one to go on.

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Right.

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Like the very first one.

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Okay.

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The charter was originally done in 2015 and it was trying to fix it.

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Trying to fix the two-year-old equilibrium.

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Well, it's kind of a good point, right?

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I mean, we can lead it there to save so we can have a number of them that we can vote on, or, I mean, you know, at this point, it would be nice to clean it up.

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Right.

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And I guess it has a pattern.

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Well, it doesn't matter anything if it stays.

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But still, you know, it's...

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I think we need to determine which ones we think are absolutely, yes, need to be changed, and start with those. And then go.

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Yeah, we need yeah, we need to tally it and see which rises to the top in a pivot table.

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We'll start with number one and we'll start with number two.

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We just need yes, no, or maybe.

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This is the composition selection in term.

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No.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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No.

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That's two yeses, two noes and three noes.

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Let's keep going.

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OK, number two.

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And I do also want to say, if you all have any stats after we vote,

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you want to point something out.

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maybe it wasn't both that you're thinking please feel free to speak up. Okay number two, this is the, oh for the presentation. So compliment. Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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This is three and four.

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This is the one that you're saying.

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Both of them.

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Okay.

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So three.

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I'm assuming that's three.

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So three.

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Do you have a sheet?

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No.

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I can read it if you want.

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No.

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I don't have it.

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I don't have the sheet either.

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Do you want me to read it?

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Do you want me to read it?

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Yeah.

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one.

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You don't want one?

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Got you.

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And then Britha had these, the back up, you know, let's take a look,

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because I guess it wasn't working on the original, or, you know, John was on the original, it said that he didn't really have any, uh, people with guidance.

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I have one.

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Thank you.

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I don't know if this was the first design.

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Did I leave it on the desk for the station?

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No, it's an Excel spreadsheet.

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Yeah, it was in the morning.

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At 9 a.m.

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Now, Brenda, will you tell us which ones are we're trying to line up with state law?

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Okay, we're on number three.

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Three.

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Vacancies, forfeiture, and filing to vacancies of the pilot's money will charter the BIMD to

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require the general rule that counts on members because it's a present and it counts on me.

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Okay.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Maybe.

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I'm a yes.

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Maybe.

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a yes.

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Maybe you should explain it.

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I know.

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Maybe I should.

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So the reason that we added that one is that the charter requires your attendance at meetings

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And we didn't think that it would be appropriate for someone to go to their Arizona home, you

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know, in the winter for three months and attend meetings via video, which can now be done

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as long as there's a quorum here.

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And I think when the charter was written, it meant that you needed to be at meetings.

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and that's what the commission felt as well, so this says that the attendance that's required for the most part is physical presence in the chambers with your colleagues.

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Okay, all right, I'm gonna just add to that, you know, there's something valuable about, sometimes it's uncomfortable to be sitting here,

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And there's something valuable about sitting here with everybody sitting out there.

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I mean, I just think that's really important.

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If you're going to vote on something, you'll be willing to face the crowd.

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That's just my opinion.

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But I just want to make sure that we're mindful of ranking

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these.

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Because I don't want everyone to change their vote to yet.

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And then we're ranking that as a priority over others if we're trying to be down to 15.

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Is it really that compared to all the rest of them?

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Is it, is your goal to take you to a yes?

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Because it's more important than others?

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Or is it just a yes?

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Because oh yeah, you're right, that's what we can consider.

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Because all of these are something to consider.

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So the reason this was important is says,

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if any member of the City Council is absent

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from three consecutive regular meetings

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without explanation acceptable to the majority

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of the remaining members of the City Council,

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his or her office shall be deemed

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and declared vacant by resolution at the next regular meeting of the City Council.

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The City Council shall convene a public hearing before exercising its authority under this

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provision and permit the Council member to be heard regarding absences.

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So there were two changes that were proposed.

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If any member of the City Council is physically absent from preconceived meetings, okay, that's

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where physical presence came in.

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And then the next one number four, it's, she'll be deemed in declared vacant by resolution unanimously approved by the remaining City Council.

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So that it couldn't be a political move if someone, you know, is sick or caring for an ill parent or something and now's our chance to get rid of them.

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The commission felt like a unanimous vote was necessary to remove someone from their elected seat.

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To me, what's been...

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And then Mr. Chief.

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Well, it's three on excuse.

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Right.

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In the two distant past. Yes. So, well, this is, this is your item. And you guys can figure out how you want to do it. What do we

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want to do? Ten percent. Oh, right. Twenty-two. Oh, that's right. So it was about ten percent. I think that's when you sign up for this, you sign up to me in the meetings.

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We're

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going to go back to what we were trying to achieve here and it was a 10-widdle ban.

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That's why I said maybe yes, it's not a maybe nothing.

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No, that's right.

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So, I mean, and that's just it.

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But we've got 40 babies to look at.

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And, you know, right now it says three.

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But I want to be clear, you guys can change the three to, you know, four in a year or

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three in a year, that's, you have full authority over this.

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So, how do you all feel about that instead of doing it instead of doing a second and say it's an overall advantage of being present?

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I have my personal opinion, they both be brief and be gone, but is that's going to be a little harsh?

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Yeah.

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Three in a year. I would up the number if you want it in a year.

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I'm going to take all of your attendance, you have a meeting and I need a percentage of your attendance that are meeting, so because we also have special meetings, so you want to put a percentage of the blood.

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What was the percentage of the blood?

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So you want to be physically present at all, at 75% of the meetings in a calendar year.

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Okay.

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That's barely passing in school.

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Okay, that's an excuse, we're talking about unexcuse, that's what I think it needs to be.

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Okay, the excuse and unexcuse.

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So, you want 80%

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unexcuse, with 20% unexcused,

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what's 85% of 22?

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no 85% of 22 somebody come on here I got it

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22 times 18.7 so it's 19

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meetings that's hot no no no that's a lot that's to be yeah yeah yeah and what

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What constitutes?

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What constitutes an excuse? If you're sick, if your child has had an operation, if you, I mean, if it's legit, not that you've moved to Oklahoma, and you're playing like you. Did I say this scheduled out vacation? Does that count as an excuse? I'm just curious.

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I'm sorry. Yes, we should be able to have vacations. Right.

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Right. Right.

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So don't make anybody mask whatever you do. Don't make your little consul

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and man at you.

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Free or excuses.

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I just think it's important we sign up.

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Yeah.

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It's not a true right?

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Very nice question.

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Yeah.

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I know.

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No, no, no.

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The excuse is acceptable to a majority.

250
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No, I'm not.

251
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Yeah.

252
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It takes a unanimous vote to take someone's seat.

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And by that point, I mean if it's something, I think there would have been a unanimous voice to declare that seat.

254
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Yeah.

255
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And I'm just thinking in my long term like, well, we're not here in March.

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20 years, right? You said we

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are thinking of life. You said we

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have 20 years. Is it protecting

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the work that I have? Okay. Okay.

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Okay. Is it protecting the work

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of the city? If you're not showing

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enough. I'm going to go with 80

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percent. That's 16. I would think

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somebody that is missing that

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much would be 17.6. But I

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still, I'm still of the mindset

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though that would have to be in

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person. Personally, you think

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it should be in person or

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I don't. I do think it should be. I mean

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like can we do you can only have so many in

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video.

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Let's not do that. Let's not do that. Yeah.

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Let's figure out how if you all right.

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Do you want to change it to a percent of meetings every year? Yes. I hear yes. Yes. Okay.

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what's that percent I'm 75 75 80 whatever it takes to be a whole

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75% okay 75 80 80 80 will do 80 80 percent physically present I think

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percent all right and then and

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do you like them the unanimous vote required to

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remove a mess yes yes all right so four

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number four can be left as is how

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take a vote on yes no maybe this is number four number four is for the

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Is that a yes, no or maybe for you that for oh, yes

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all right all right all right that's all I know I'm going to we're going to

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re-vote on three now how many of you want three to be physically present for

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80% of the meetings in a calendar year yes yes yes

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at least yes yes yes

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We should shoot for eight.

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All right, so that is a unanimous.

290
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No, no, that's sorry.

291
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That is unanimous for number three.

292
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Yes.

293
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All right.

294
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And two, number four is five to two.

295
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Okay.

296
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Number five.

297
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Yeah, so that one, it's

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It says that you can appoint to a vacancy, but when you went to three year terms, you cannot appoint to a vacancy. You have to have an election.

299
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No, that's a constitutional requirement. This is wrong. Yes. This one is wrong.

300
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I say no only because I don't think that would ever come in to play with the

301
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And I'm just trying to know all

302
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right. That's a unanimous no. You are bad. You are going away. You don't count.

303
00:31:22,030 --> 00:31:36,370
Okay. So this was a lot of discussion at the commission level. And the charter says,

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If you have posted an ordinance, say a zoning ordinance, and you amend it in substance

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that you cannot approve it at that meeting, that it has to be post reposted at another

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meeting.

307
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And the rule on this is a due process question.

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And the law presents that if someone is interested in a topic,

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they'll be at the meeting.

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So what in land use, the rule is that if you make it more restrictive,

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you can do that at the same meeting.

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If you want to make it less restrictive, then you have to re-notice, repost, because

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of the due process requirement.

314
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This would apply to all ordinances that if you make a substantive change, the charter

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says you cannot adopt it at the meeting.

316
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We're not following that now because the presumption is that people who are interested would

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be here. So this is just cleaning it up so it's like what we're actually doing. That's

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it is. But it would delete the provision that says if there's a substantive amendment

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you have to do it at the next meeting. I don't like it. I think it should go. The commission

320
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thought it should go. It's up to you guys.

321
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,660
Yeah. So the thing that I don't love is when

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You have a charter provision that deviates from normal practice, because every city manager,

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city secretary knows that if it's properly posted, you can make changes.

324
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But we're not following this, so I don't want someone to be able to challenge an ordinance

325
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as unlawful because we violated our charter.

326
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And there is a case, a hospital case, out of the city of Dallas, like in 2023 or 2022,

327
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where they imposed greater notice requirements than state law.

328
00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:12,540
And the city didn't follow that because every planner in the state knows what state law says.

329
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,620
And the court invalidated the ordinance because they didn't follow their own rule.

330
00:34:16,620 --> 00:34:21,020
And I don't want us to have that liability exposure.

331
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:24,420
Yes.

332
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:26,160
Yes.

333
00:34:30,110 --> 00:34:30,790
I mean, yes.

334
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:31,530
Yes.

335
00:34:32,150 --> 00:34:32,290
Yes.

336
00:34:32,730 --> 00:34:33,310
All right.

337
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,260
Five was unanimously approved.

338
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:52,170
I said it had to be changed.

339
00:34:53,290 --> 00:34:54,850
It has to be done.

340
00:34:55,950 --> 00:34:56,230
Yes.

341
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:56,890
for

342
00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:59,960
eight and a minute.

343
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:26,240
Yeah, so for general law cities, the vote to remove a city official is a two-third requirement.

344
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,080
This is just the

345
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commission and Brit and Lynette thought that this was important for them, for

346
00:35:40,220 --> 00:35:49,960
job security so that they're not subject to political wins and nobody wants to work

347
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,060
for a city council when five members don't want you there.

348
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,140
But you would work for a city council when four members don't want you there.

349
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:05,740
You see, there's a difference and so that's why we felt this was important.

350
00:36:05,740 --> 00:36:17,680
We didn't do this for me because I serve at the pleasure of the council and it's not I'm not an employee if I was an employee city attorney, I would want this same thing.

351
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:26,680
And it really has to do with job security for your appointed officials.

352
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,420
It's for me what makes sense that we had a dies of 12.

353
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,740
But like just on the 40 list, it didn't hit.

354
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,380
I would say, and I didn't, this probably didn't make my top 10 to be honest.

355
00:36:40,380 --> 00:36:44,880
But I think it's necessary for the rest of the creates consistency.

356
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,000
I mean, unfortunate circumstances that we've been here,

357
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,300
you know, for the last four years, we've practically counted people.

358
00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:57,460
Council, and we've had one city manager to keep you going.

359
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,380
But like, if you look at someone, when politics came into play,

360
00:37:02,620 --> 00:37:04,480
and they had said, from the jewelry they have to chase,

361
00:37:05,220 --> 00:37:15,200
and which, which updated a lot of the staff and a lot of what's going on in the world, so that's the kind of thing that that one vote can prevent.

362
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:21,960
I agree with you. I mean, trust me, watching Gunner and Selina and other communities in Texas, I totally agree with you.

363
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:25,340
I just don't, it doesn't make my top 15. So that's math.

364
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,000
Okay.

365
00:37:26,660 --> 00:37:29,000
So let's vote that's number two.

366
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:29,600
Yes.

367
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:30,740
Major.

368
00:37:31,180 --> 00:37:31,480
Yes.

369
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:39,600
Yes, yes, yes, yes, the

370
00:37:42,350 --> 00:37:44,710
next one is the same thing for the city secretary.

371
00:37:48,460 --> 00:37:59,440
I am the same, same, number 10, are you the same, yes, I'm the maybe and like I said, I think it's important, I just don't know if it makes the 15th.

372
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:17,640
Okay, yeah, the next one is, um, adding, conducting the city's elections to the duties

373
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,260
of the city secretary,

374
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,860
I'll let Lynette answer.

375
00:38:26,140 --> 00:38:27,300
She wanted it,

376
00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:41,760
so does that mean you could tell me so?

377
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,500
She could say the police chief has to do it.

378
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,680
Your elections, man.

379
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:57,860
But as a state, the city secretary, it's assumed that the city secretary is not a statutory requirement.

380
00:38:57,860 --> 00:39:04,220
No, no, no, no, it's not a statutory part, but most cities, the city's secretary, is the one it needs because it looks like a city secretary.

381
00:39:04,220 --> 00:39:04,980
Yes, that's true.

382
00:39:05,420 --> 00:39:08,560
So it's not like a city secretary coming into pilot.

383
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,440
The point is going to be like, well I'm sorry, but if it's not...

384
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,660
That is, that's true.

385
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:13,920
Okay, so...

386
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:15,420
It's for priority purposes.

387
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:16,640
I'm sorry.

388
00:39:17,140 --> 00:39:17,940
I mean, that is something?

389
00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:22,680
Well, I was just thinking in a provocation situation,

390
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:28,160
kind of like what we've had before on that last time, and see you made a dream, see if

391
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:35,280
you're ready for off-grid. There might be some time when somebody says, well, that's

392
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:42,100
what my dream is not listening to that, but that is. I get it. I'm just saying. Once again, I

393
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:47,940
would have made my top 10. But you can change it on the personnel thing, right? Yes, you can't.

394
00:39:47,940 --> 00:39:59,560
And I'm not one who believes, yeah, who believes that you change the charter because of one situation, so.

395
00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:12,310
Yes. Yes. And I changed my vote based on this discussion. I

396
00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:20,240
mean, yes. Yes, and I changed my vote, too. This conversation.

397
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:39,820
Y'all are not eliminating them. I know you're not. That's because of these conversations. I think this is why I didn't think it was. Think about if the commission had eliminated some of these and not brought

398
00:40:39,820 --> 00:40:48,240
them to. Well and I share what Mayor was mentioning if I had my choice you know I think they're all

399
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:53,240
important they wouldn't have been flagged. Yeah I agree. I know that's where I feel like

400
00:40:53,240 --> 00:41:02,440
I'm afraid. Well we know that number six he's six is dead for sure. Here's the deal very good. We need

401
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:07,540
to pick out the most important and then we look and see this is too heavy then we go back. Yes

402
00:41:07,540 --> 00:41:08,840
Yes, that's, I agree with that.

403
00:41:08,860 --> 00:41:09,940
Let's finish this list.

404
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:12,500
Number 11 personnel in the stand.

405
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:14,360
He's the pilot point charter will be a mentor

406
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,860
providing administrative approval

407
00:41:15,860 --> 00:41:17,300
and amendment to the employee process.

408
00:41:18,140 --> 00:41:19,000
I vote yes.

409
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:25,340
And this was important because it is not the council's job

410
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:32,240
to do employee personnel policies.

411
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:36,410
But that stated on the, on the,

412
00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:38,750
But it is the charter says,

413
00:41:39,490 --> 00:41:45,210
the personnel rules should be prepared by the city manager and

414
00:41:45,210 --> 00:41:50,550
presented to the city council who may adopt them by ordinance with or without amendment.

415
00:41:51,130 --> 00:41:56,170
The adopted rules shall establish the city as an equal opportunity employer and

416
00:41:56,170 --> 00:41:59,150
shall govern the equitable administration of the personnel system.

417
00:41:59,790 --> 00:42:04,750
The proposed change is personnel rules should be prepared by the city manager.

418
00:42:04,750 --> 00:42:08,510
the rules shall establish the city as an equal opportunity employer and shall govern

419
00:42:08,510 --> 00:42:11,570
the equitable administration of the personnel system of the city.

420
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,520
Is this to avoid what Selina?

421
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:29,060
It is to give the city manager the authority to determine the rules for the city's employees

422
00:42:29,060 --> 00:42:31,400
and you get to hold him accountable for it.

423
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:41,540
It's in the charter that you approve it by ordinance and that makes amending the

424
00:42:42,820 --> 00:42:49,680
personnel manual difficult and it makes it a political process it

425
00:42:53,520 --> 00:43:03,160
is but

426
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:10,620
that's why yeah that's why we're bringing this amendment to you no it's to

427
00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:15,940
change otherwise you're supposed to approve the personnel policies by

428
00:43:15,940 --> 00:43:20,910
ordinance and I don't think we're doing it yes

429
00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:28,660
okay I didn't hear you're

430
00:43:28,660 --> 00:43:30,700
about wait I didn't hear I'm browsing yes

431
00:43:37,970 --> 00:43:54,880
I'm too good an advocate all right so

432
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,480
So 5.01 is just flat out wrong.

433
00:43:59,940 --> 00:44:02,840
It says it's going to be on the second Saturday in May.

434
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:10,140
And the state date is the first Saturday in May.

435
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:11,860
OK, question.

436
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,140
You're going to be in violation of your charter

437
00:44:17,140 --> 00:44:18,960
if you hold them on the first Saturday in May.

438
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,100
When we don't, you do.

439
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:22,840
You have to.

440
00:44:23,220 --> 00:44:24,140
So this is a state.

441
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:25,100
This is you have to choose.

442
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:31,760
This one is the charter's wrong. Yes, yes,

443
00:44:34,670 --> 00:44:45,440
yes for me. Oh, okay, so the next one will be fun

444
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,440
The next one will be fun

445
00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:52,420
18 to 21 to run for council.

446
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:55,520
No

447
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:03,800
I'm a yes.

448
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:40,970
If I say no, I don't want to raise it to 20. That's correct. Okay.

449
00:45:40,970 --> 00:45:45,150
So I said no, because I thought I don't want to make any use of it.

450
00:45:45,150 --> 00:45:45,770
You want it?

451
00:45:45,810 --> 00:45:46,330
You're a yes.

452
00:45:46,730 --> 00:45:47,390
Okay, you're a yes.

453
00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:48,890
So where's that?

454
00:45:49,150 --> 00:45:49,690
What was that?

455
00:45:49,690 --> 00:45:50,670
Three, two, two.

456
00:45:50,910 --> 00:45:51,910
Three, two, two.

457
00:45:52,290 --> 00:45:54,230
And no is you want it 18.

458
00:45:54,810 --> 00:45:56,770
A yes is you want it 21.

459
00:45:57,010 --> 00:45:57,130
Right.

460
00:45:57,410 --> 00:45:59,010
And right now, that house...

461
00:46:01,090 --> 00:46:01,810
I have no idea.

462
00:46:03,980 --> 00:46:04,700
That's the only reason.

463
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:05,340
Right?

464
00:46:05,580 --> 00:46:07,100
It's the only reason to understand.

465
00:46:09,070 --> 00:46:14,030
Shall it be amended to raise the minimum age for a City Council candidate from 18 to 21?

466
00:46:14,030 --> 00:46:14,130
What?

467
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:21,830
Lugs everybody understands that if the high school, a good candidate is going to get

468
00:46:21,830 --> 00:46:23,650
all of his buddies to come out and vote.

469
00:46:24,250 --> 00:46:24,770
That's right.

470
00:46:24,850 --> 00:46:28,550
We'll have an 18-year-old on the council who's up here because he wants.

471
00:46:29,290 --> 00:46:30,330
I don't know what.

472
00:46:30,510 --> 00:46:30,910
That's true.

473
00:46:31,050 --> 00:46:31,490
I think about that.

474
00:46:32,590 --> 00:46:34,530
Yeah, free lunches in the cap here.

475
00:46:34,670 --> 00:46:37,910
I would agree with that if I thought 21-year-olds and 18-year-olds.

476
00:46:40,540 --> 00:46:40,680
Oh.

477
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,040
Well, there's a big difference.

478
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,000
Do you have a mind?

479
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,880
I might change my mind to yes because I don't think about them being in the high school.

480
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:54,520
All right. Hang on. I had an 18 year old on the school board.

481
00:46:55,020 --> 00:47:00,280
He got kicked out because he cheated on a test and gave test answers to all of his friends.

482
00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:04,680
Okay. Mine's yes. All right. So I have 421.

483
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:08,440
I mean, if that's the case, racing to 25, I feel safer.

484
00:47:09,060 --> 00:47:12,100
You can, you only have the authority to go to 21.

485
00:47:13,020 --> 00:47:14,780
I'm just not committing 21.

486
00:47:14,780 --> 00:47:16,740
21. So on the list of priorities.

487
00:47:16,740 --> 00:47:19,100
Okay, do you want to read out on this?

488
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,340
I can't look back here.

489
00:47:22,980 --> 00:47:23,540
Yes.

490
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,200
No.

491
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:25,920
All right.

492
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,340
So that's a yes.

493
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,400
Lisbon.

494
00:47:29,620 --> 00:47:29,860
Jack.

495
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:33,360
Mayor.

496
00:47:34,740 --> 00:47:35,900
I said yes.

497
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:36,480
I'm sorry.

498
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:37,040
I was.

499
00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:37,460
Maybe.

500
00:47:37,660 --> 00:47:38,700
He should.

501
00:47:39,060 --> 00:47:39,620
No.

502
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,080
Right.

503
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,740
I'm a yes.

504
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,160
Yes.

505
00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:47,060
I mean, we should raise it to 21.

506
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:47,580
Right.

507
00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:48,000
Yes.

508
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,520
All right. So now that's six to one.

509
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,440
The mayor was a no.

510
00:48:18,140 --> 00:48:23,900
And again, it's for me, it's about the list of priorities, right? Is that as high of priorities and for the others?

511
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,420
But we're going to go back and look and it's not. We'll bump it out. Yeah.

512
00:48:28,180 --> 00:48:40,100
Okay, the order of candidates on the ballot shall be determined by lot, or in accordance

513
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:47,080
with the Texas election code, the recommendation was to remove by lot.

514
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:49,960
Number 14,

515
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:55,410
if you want to get rid of it, it makes no difference.

516
00:48:55,410 --> 00:48:55,510
Yes.

517
00:48:56,990 --> 00:48:57,730
Mind's no.

518
00:49:00,510 --> 00:49:01,050
Maybe.

519
00:49:05,860 --> 00:49:07,140
Are you no?

520
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:09,660
I may be.

521
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:21,030
Four noes and three yeses.

522
00:49:22,090 --> 00:49:22,210
No.

523
00:49:22,810 --> 00:49:24,070
How come I may be the lady?

524
00:49:25,350 --> 00:49:25,670
Or no.

525
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,360
This was just coming up the language job.

526
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:32,380
Right.

527
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,340
No.

528
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,360
We've had some other ones.

529
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:35,280
That's not the one with two.

530
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:48,640
all right oh oh oh I made a bad mistake you're right this one oh my gosh this

531
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:59,980
oh this is the right and the right and I'm so sorry I messed that up yes so it's

532
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:24,120
What says procedures for right-end votes shall be consistent with the Texas election code. That's what it currently says. Procedures for right-end votes shall be consistent with the Texas election code. And what we said is ballots shall be consistent with the Texas election code for right-end candidates.

533
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:33,920
And our election, our election employee was in favor of this change,

534
00:50:36,450 --> 00:50:36,890
yes.

535
00:50:37,070 --> 00:50:38,930
What's the difference in wording there?

536
00:50:39,730 --> 00:50:41,450
Well, a right-in vote.

537
00:50:41,810 --> 00:50:49,090
We don't provide for right-in vote, but the ballot provides for right-in candidates.

538
00:50:49,090 --> 00:50:50,390
I see what you're saying, okay.

539
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:52,910
in accordance with the election cut.

540
00:50:53,090 --> 00:50:54,390
In earth, for a Grayson County,

541
00:50:54,730 --> 00:50:54,870
you've

542
00:51:02,550 --> 00:51:04,130
got the ballot and it's the ballot.

543
00:51:04,570 --> 00:51:05,010
Right.

544
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:06,130
This makes no sense.

545
00:51:06,490 --> 00:51:07,370
This is impossible.

546
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:10,770
So if you write somebody in,

547
00:51:11,530 --> 00:51:14,050
there has to be a provision on the ballot

548
00:51:14,050 --> 00:51:15,370
for a right and candidate,

549
00:51:15,930 --> 00:51:17,510
but not a right and vote.

550
00:51:19,150 --> 00:51:21,030
So if it's not under and you write it in,

551
00:51:21,210 --> 00:51:21,590
it doesn't count.

552
00:51:22,670 --> 00:51:24,510
No, well, come on up on this.

553
00:51:24,770 --> 00:51:27,530
There's a difference between a space

554
00:51:27,530 --> 00:51:31,150
for a right-in candidate versus a right-in vote.

555
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:35,150
Okay. Is it just a line or a line for you?

556
00:51:35,410 --> 00:51:44,690
Yes, but if that line is, well...

557
00:51:44,690 --> 00:51:49,690
Well, I understand that it's voting, the vote is the action, the ballot is the thing that...

558
00:51:49,690 --> 00:51:51,510
That's right. That requires the action.

559
00:51:51,630 --> 00:51:52,030
That's right.

560
00:51:52,030 --> 00:51:57,790
All right, so we can't describe the right influence when this is going to happen.

561
00:51:57,790 --> 00:52:00,770
We can't tell you how to write in a vote, we can prepare the ballot.

562
00:52:06,610 --> 00:52:07,130
You know,

563
00:52:09,180 --> 00:52:13,520
I don't think it's going to change the way that we operate.

564
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,220
Lynette, is that fair?

565
00:52:16,460 --> 00:52:17,340
I'm still now.

566
00:52:17,780 --> 00:52:18,040
Okay.

567
00:52:32,830 --> 00:52:33,310
Okay.

568
00:52:33,310 --> 00:52:35,110
All right, so now it's three to four.

569
00:52:35,870 --> 00:52:37,650
It was four to three and now it's three to four.

570
00:52:37,930 --> 00:52:39,810
Three, four, no, three, three, one.

571
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:41,050
No.

572
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:43,070
And four, maybe.

573
00:52:43,570 --> 00:52:44,250
Oh, sorry.

574
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:46,350
All right.

575
00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:47,470
This is really hard.

576
00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:49,730
Yeah.

577
00:52:50,190 --> 00:52:51,390
All right.

578
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:56,370
All right, one page done, one page down.

579
00:52:56,650 --> 00:52:56,950
All right.

580
00:52:57,110 --> 00:52:57,870
Oh, hush.

581
00:52:58,090 --> 00:53:01,390
All right, so the delivery of election results.

582
00:53:01,390 --> 00:53:05,270
I know, but it took us a while to figure out what we want to do.

583
00:53:06,530 --> 00:53:24,020
All right, so the reason that this was done is, shall 5.04 to correct the process for the delivery, so it says, these

584
00:53:27,700 --> 00:53:32,600
returns, sorry, I had marked it out and I couldn't read what it said.

585
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:40,060
These returns shall be delivered from the election judges to the person performing the duties of the city secretary and the mayor at

586
00:53:40,060 --> 00:53:47,680
City Hall as soon as possible after the closing of the polls. That doesn't happen. Lynette gets her numbers off of the website.

587
00:53:49,970 --> 00:53:50,150
Right.

588
00:53:50,910 --> 00:53:51,230
So

589
00:53:52,130 --> 00:53:54,890
This was a cleanup about the way that it happens.

590
00:53:54,890 --> 00:54:01,150
But will it change? Will it change if we will change the way we do it if we vote for it, correct?

591
00:54:01,150 --> 00:54:10,050
I think the other thing that was on this one is to include the first thing on them because otherwise you could have it applied to that.

592
00:54:10,070 --> 00:54:14,110
This is the double one. This is the one that bothers me.

593
00:54:14,510 --> 00:54:17,910
Otherwise you could have a bunch of candidates before they heard.

594
00:54:18,410 --> 00:54:30,130
So if I in my perfect world so that I can sleep at night, I would have you guys put so here's the discussion and I've had this happen before.

595
00:54:30,130 --> 00:54:34,490
This is the one that has the two provisions that I knew I shouldn't do.

596
00:54:37,210 --> 00:54:44,050
I have had outgoing council members who wanted to do something before they left office.

597
00:54:45,630 --> 00:54:47,970
And their vote was required for majority.

598
00:54:48,890 --> 00:54:56,290
Put something on the agenda before the canvas as an action item before the agenda, before

599
00:54:56,290 --> 00:54:59,970
the election was canvassed. So they could ram something down.

600
00:55:01,490 --> 00:55:28,610
The throw of whoever was being elected, whoever had been elected. There's this what I'd really love for you to do is let's not correct the process for delivery of election results. But let's require that the city council take action to canvas the election as the first item on the agenda following the city's receipt of the official election results. Does that make sense? I get it. Yes.

601
00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:42,530
Yeah, but it's not, no, and yeah, because I've seen it, where the last thing the outgoing members do is

602
00:55:43,950 --> 00:55:45,650
Something that they know the next

603
00:55:45,650 --> 00:55:46,870
Before

604
00:55:51,190 --> 00:56:00,850
there before the canvas and if it's asked to be on the agenda and they want it first

605
00:56:00,850 --> 00:56:03,130
let it kind of puts it first.

606
00:56:13,250 --> 00:56:19,290
I'll say no to the process of delivering the

607
00:56:19,290 --> 00:56:26,330
election results. And yes, thank you to the putting the canvassing first on

608
00:56:26,330 --> 00:56:30,590
the agenda. Yes. And I would say let's just vote on canvassing first on the

609
00:56:30,590 --> 00:56:31,150
agenda. Okay.

610
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:47,040
I'm a yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. And then are we all in agreement not to

611
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,440
change the process for delivery. It's not going to change anything.

612
00:56:54,260 --> 00:56:54,960
Otherwise, I'm going

613
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,640
to have to make another valid item.

614
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,140
Okay. Okay. We're good. All right.

615
00:57:07,900 --> 00:57:08,440
Yes.

616
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:11,860
Yes.

617
00:57:15,810 --> 00:57:19,330
25% of registered

618
00:57:19,330 --> 00:57:23,150
voters as opposed to those who voted in the last election.

619
00:57:23,150 --> 00:57:31,790
I might only think with this is right now we're only 5,000 people in 20 years we're going to be 70,000 people, right?

620
00:57:33,830 --> 00:57:48,510
If only 5,000 voted at the last election, 1570,000 people could recall you from office, because you didn't vote for twice a week garbage pickup.

621
00:57:48,510 --> 00:57:49,250
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

622
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,360
That's 500, about 550 people.

623
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,240
So I do that.

624
00:57:59,820 --> 00:58:00,460
I've heard.

625
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,780
So it's

626
00:58:10,580 --> 00:58:12,060
probably the more common.

627
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:12,680
OK.

628
00:58:20,860 --> 00:58:22,740
People, he prefers it to be more restricted

629
00:58:22,740 --> 00:58:25,800
than to have to undo something that the brothers did.

630
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,700
Brian, you know, I agree.

631
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,120
OK, number I'm doing this.

632
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,740
Oh, I have three yeses so far.

633
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,040
Oh, it's to you.

634
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,400
Oh, it's to me, yeah.

635
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:36,820
I'm a yes.

636
00:58:37,580 --> 00:58:37,880
Yes?

637
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:38,440
Yes.

638
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,860
All right, form

639
00:58:43,980 --> 00:58:53,660
of, okay, so the form of the ballots, this one is there's a whole giant

640
00:58:53,660 --> 00:59:02,520
section that has the way that a ballot is to look, that is prescribed by state law,

641
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:09,200
and this would take this section out and say the recall petition mentioned above, she'll

642
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:19,720
me the requirements set forth in chapter 3 of the Texas election code. And I've drafted

643
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:27,300
that language, but I can't tell you what it is. It's to get rid of all this stuff.

644
00:59:28,830 --> 00:59:32,190
No, maybe.

645
00:59:36,410 --> 00:59:42,010
Well, I had yes, but I'll go with maybe, maybe.

646
00:59:45,390 --> 00:59:50,810
So that's a six to one, six to one. Yes. All right.

647
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,120
It's the same thing for

648
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,820
The

649
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,120
Various papers, constituting a recall petition.

650
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,480
And it says,

651
01:00:10,830 --> 01:00:32,570
verifications provided for in section 6.03 of this article may be made by one or more petitioners and the several parts of copies of the petition may be filed separately. I don't think this one is as important as the last one. So I'm going to guess that this is

652
01:00:50,680 --> 01:01:06,810
So this is right now it says no recall petition shall be filed against any officer of the city within three months after the officer's election.

653
01:01:06,810 --> 01:01:10,930
or within three months after an election for their recall.

654
01:01:12,430 --> 01:01:19,090
So the commission voted to change it to six months,

655
01:01:19,370 --> 01:01:21,370
to give you six months in office,

656
01:01:22,210 --> 01:01:25,630
to get your feet under you before someone can recall you from office.

657
01:01:26,250 --> 01:01:27,610
There were two opposed,

658
01:01:28,290 --> 01:01:31,230
so this was not a unanimous vote of the commission,

659
01:01:31,230 --> 01:01:42,430
But the majority felt like giving somebody six months and you can't try again for six months after there's been an election.

660
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:55,080
Because three, you don't even know what you're doing and you have to approve a budget within three months of your election.

661
01:01:55,260 --> 01:02:01,340
And you don't even know what the heck a budget is and how it's put together or anything.

662
01:02:01,340 --> 01:02:09,060
So there was just a feeling that if you run for election and you're elected, you ought

663
01:02:09,060 --> 01:02:14,300
to have six months to show what you can do.

664
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:21,800
And really, the big concern was, okay, you've been elected and then you, you're arrested

665
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,740
for, let's just use child porn.

666
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,580
And should we have to wait six months?

667
01:02:29,980 --> 01:02:31,100
That's the issue.

668
01:02:39,820 --> 01:02:41,720
They don't have to unless they're convicted.

669
01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:44,240
But this now says we want to leave them in person.

670
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,000
That's right.

671
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,240
I'm going to say they probably resign.

672
01:02:50,980 --> 01:02:55,870
But what if it's money laundering more?

673
01:02:56,290 --> 01:02:57,230
I don't know. What else?

674
01:02:58,070 --> 01:02:58,190
No.

675
01:03:00,690 --> 01:03:01,250
Three,

676
01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:16,920
one, three.

677
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:28,300
Okay, and so yeah, it is less or six months is less of fewer elections.

678
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:39,820
All right, so 20 is the same 25% of the registered voters for initiative and

679
01:03:39,820 --> 01:03:42,440
referendum are 20 and 21.

680
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:43,240
So

681
01:03:47,170 --> 01:03:52,850
there's a recall there's recall initiative and referendum those are three

682
01:03:52,850 --> 01:03:58,330
different things that the public can call elections for. This changes that

683
01:03:58,330 --> 01:04:04,570
threshold from 25% of the people who voted in the last election to 25% of the

684
01:04:04,570 --> 01:04:08,370
registered voters. Yes. Yes.

685
01:04:14,270 --> 01:04:19,430
Yes. Yes. All right. I'm going to guess 21 is the

686
01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:37,680
same yes all right so this is 6.15 voluntary submission of legislation by

687
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:43,900
the county I thought this is three quarter and I put two thirds all right I'll

688
01:04:43,900 --> 01:04:50,680
fix that I'm not perfect guys this was a lot to put together all right so 22

689
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,800
two is, should it take, say,

690
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,980
you want something done, and you can...

691
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:29,900
We can't get it done, but you convince another person to let it go to the voters. That's how you submit legislation to the voters. What the commission said is it should be more than a majority of the council that wants to submit something to the voters. And so the commission's recommendation was three-quarters majority in order to submit legislation to an initiative.

692
01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:35,260
to or refer into the elections at six of seven.

693
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,420
Kind of like a US, not three quarters, but two thirds.

694
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,740
No, I had it wrong.

695
01:05:44,700 --> 01:05:49,200
My actual notes from our meetings say three quarters.

696
01:05:50,620 --> 01:05:51,240
Yeah.

697
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,980
So I just want to correct it.

698
01:05:53,980 --> 01:05:55,000
And was there a commission unit?

699
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:55,660
Yes.

700
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,120
And Rosie.

701
01:05:58,340 --> 01:05:58,680
Yes.

702
01:05:59,420 --> 01:05:59,660
Major.

703
01:05:59,860 --> 01:06:00,100
Yes.

704
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:00,260
Yes.

705
01:06:05,470 --> 01:06:06,670
I'm a yes on it.

706
01:06:08,290 --> 01:06:08,590
Yes.

707
01:06:10,590 --> 01:06:11,190
Okay.

708
01:06:16,620 --> 01:06:22,780
Publication of proposed and referred ordinances, let's see.

709
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:23,900
Let me look at it.

710
01:06:25,020 --> 01:06:25,740
6.17.

711
01:06:26,540 --> 01:06:27,300
Oh my gosh.

712
01:06:27,700 --> 01:06:29,400
This was, yeah.

713
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:38,200
Our charter says we have to publish it twice in the official newspaper of the city within

714
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,380
in 15 days before the date of election

715
01:06:40,380 --> 01:06:43,720
and give such other notices and do such other things

716
01:06:44,300 --> 01:06:46,980
as required by law in municipal elections

717
01:06:46,980 --> 01:06:50,080
and by the ordinance or resolution calling the election.

718
01:06:50,980 --> 01:06:56,080
This just says, shall publish it as required by state law.

719
01:06:57,020 --> 01:06:57,660
Yes, please.

720
01:06:59,480 --> 01:06:59,800
Yes.

721
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,320
Just to say law in my minutes.

722
01:07:01,660 --> 01:07:03,940
Yes, but this is a really weird one.

723
01:07:04,180 --> 01:07:04,320
Yes.

724
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:05,540
Yes.

725
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,660
maybe I

726
01:07:13,580 --> 01:07:16,700
said yes, yes,

727
01:07:19,550 --> 01:07:37,370
all right so this is um to get you the budget earlier then um what

728
01:07:37,370 --> 01:07:42,030
That state law requires change

729
01:07:48,140 --> 01:07:51,220
to 30 days prior to the scheduled date of adoption.

730
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,040
So this is just lining up with SB2.

731
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:15,140
Yeah, because this says on or before the 15th day of August, and if you're going to adopt the budget on September 8,

732
01:08:15,140 --> 01:08:19,800
You're entitled to get it by August 8th.

733
01:08:19,820 --> 01:08:21,780
Can we also add on there?

734
01:08:24,300 --> 01:08:24,640
Yeah.

735
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,420
So what I'll say, I'll change this to require this,

736
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,260
the city manager to submit the proposed annual budget

737
01:08:31,260 --> 01:08:34,780
to the city council as required by state law.

738
01:08:37,370 --> 01:08:37,970
Yes.

739
01:08:39,210 --> 01:08:39,470
Yes.

740
01:08:43,750 --> 01:08:44,190
I'm a yes.

741
01:08:44,910 --> 01:08:45,070
Yes.

742
01:08:46,090 --> 01:08:46,110
Yes.

743
01:08:46,110 --> 01:08:46,410
Yes.

744
01:08:49,260 --> 01:08:49,580
All right.

745
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:51,980
Public hearing on the budget.

746
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:56,470
Right.

747
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,580
Yes. Yes.

748
01:09:13,230 --> 01:09:13,450
Yes.

749
01:09:16,900 --> 01:09:26,340
That's one of those things. Okay. I know. You can just do all the same. I mean, it was amazing. Well, here's one that you can talk about.

750
01:09:27,900 --> 01:09:36,780
So 7.06 says that you adopt the budget. You feel was appropriate. No.

751
01:09:40,470 --> 01:09:41,030
26.

752
01:09:43,050 --> 01:09:49,770
to change the word feel to dean. I say no.

753
01:09:51,900 --> 01:09:52,660
I say no.

754
01:10:06,860 --> 01:10:08,860
I had a maybe, but I'll change it to a no.

755
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:16,480
All right, 26 is gone. We killed another.

756
01:10:20,300 --> 01:10:22,180
We're through second page.

757
01:10:24,420 --> 01:10:36,280
All right, 27 authorizes the sale of bonds for economic development. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

758
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,840
Yes. Thank you.

759
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:56,100
So 28, 715 says that the budget may be amended by resolution. Well, you cannot amend an ordinance by a resolution. So we don't do it by resolution.

760
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,700
We're always going to do it by ordinance.

761
01:11:05,620 --> 01:11:11,860
Let me ask you this, if we don't change it and we already do it by ordinance, there's

762
01:11:11,860 --> 01:11:13,000
no repercussions, right?

763
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:14,820
We're trying to get some off the list, right?

764
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:20,060
I would think that this is one that could go if you guys want to call something.

765
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:20,480
I'm no.

766
01:11:21,900 --> 01:11:22,660
Yes.

767
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,840
I have yes. Yes.

768
01:11:36,450 --> 01:11:47,410
All right. I mean, it is it is. I mean, so here's the thing. Your next charter commission is going to bring these same things back to you.

769
01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:51,110
Right. Right.

770
01:11:54,230 --> 01:11:54,690
No.

771
01:12:00,140 --> 01:12:06,500
Yes. So what it says is that state law requires that.

772
01:12:07,220 --> 01:12:13,840
No, no. This isn't in state law. Our depository bank, we have to go out for every five years.

773
01:12:14,580 --> 01:12:20,960
But we have imposed on ourselves the requirement to change audit firms every five years.

774
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:31,060
And Michelle, does it want to do that? It does take an audit firm several years to fully understand your financials.

775
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,040
And I understand why she wants it gone.

776
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:40,160
New clients.

777
01:12:49,390 --> 01:12:51,410
Yeah, that's the only reason why I know.

778
01:12:51,970 --> 01:12:54,110
But I didn't realize it took so long to find.

779
01:12:54,250 --> 01:12:55,930
It's hard to find auditors.

780
01:12:56,290 --> 01:12:58,670
But I don't think there should be a mountain, but I do believe that.

781
01:12:58,670 --> 01:13:00,750
I don't think it needs to be in the charter.

782
01:13:01,350 --> 01:13:04,950
I think you guys can change auditors whenever you want.

783
01:13:05,730 --> 01:13:07,510
And you could have a policy.

784
01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:09,370
and let's just that stuff work.

785
01:13:11,740 --> 01:13:13,460
That's the request.

786
01:13:13,900 --> 01:13:14,920
Okay, yes.

787
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:22,800
All right. I want to, I'm voting you to remove the requirement.

788
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,020
Yes, I'm voting to remove the requirements. I'm yes.

789
01:13:26,340 --> 01:13:29,420
Yes. Yes. You confuse me, Lisa.

790
01:13:29,820 --> 01:13:30,120
Sorry.

791
01:13:32,650 --> 01:13:34,050
What is Elizabeth?

792
01:13:34,750 --> 01:13:35,970
Yes. Yes.

793
01:13:36,810 --> 01:13:47,170
Well I had a maybe good house. I'll move it to yes, yes, all right. Yes, all right.

794
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:56,940
All right. Should we require that a written report be submitted to the City Council within

795
01:13:56,940 --> 01:13:59,060
three weeks of each PMZ meeting.

796
01:14:02,170 --> 01:14:08,450
That doesn't happen. It's in the charter. I'm concerned about a legal

797
01:14:08,450 --> 01:14:15,690
challenge to an otherwise valid action because the council doesn't receive the commission

798
01:14:15,690 --> 01:14:17,190
report within three weeks.

799
01:14:18,650 --> 01:14:23,010
I think this really exposes us to a liability for the day's end.

800
01:14:23,550 --> 01:14:23,750
Yes.

801
01:14:24,150 --> 01:14:24,450
Yes.

802
01:14:25,070 --> 01:14:25,430
Yes.

803
01:14:26,010 --> 01:14:26,730
I

804
01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:29,650
think so.

805
01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:36,840
So a no is a yes is to remove that or remove that requirement.

806
01:14:42,780 --> 01:14:57,480
She wants to remove the automatic removal of a member appointed to the Board of

807
01:14:57,480 --> 01:14:59,940
mission for absences exceeding.

808
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:10,340
25% in a 12 month period. Yes. Okay, wait, wait, let me find it for you so I could read it to you. This is for the commission. They need less than we do.

809
01:15:12,540 --> 01:15:29,920
Yes. So this says, if they miss 25% of the meetings, they are automatically off the board of commission. Can we change that to be automatically up for both?

810
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,440
to be removed from the board,

811
01:15:31,460 --> 01:15:33,320
or rather than automatically removed?

812
01:15:33,500 --> 01:15:34,800
It says they shall be deemed

813
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,540
to have forfeited their position.

814
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:41,620
Well, you can remove someone anytime, as a counsel,

815
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,060
but this says it's automatic.

816
01:15:44,860 --> 01:15:48,320
So someone who is fighting breast cancer,

817
01:15:48,740 --> 01:15:51,020
who misses 25% of the meetings,

818
01:15:51,780 --> 01:15:54,800
is automatically, they're deemed

819
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,260
to forfeit their position.

820
01:15:56,440 --> 01:15:56,980
Is it so unexcuse?

821
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:57,400
No.

822
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,600
OK, can we just change it to unexcused and make it less?

823
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,540
Oh, it says without explanation acceptable to majority of the other.

824
01:16:04,540 --> 01:16:07,780
And the only reason why I'm voting to not pass this

825
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,320
is because on one of the boards I have,

826
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:15,000
she's no longer on the board, but she's never there at all.

827
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,500
And so our board voted for removal.

828
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:22,280
But I know we love when people volunteer

829
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,520
and we don't want to have anyone feel

830
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:25,680
like they're going to get kicked off.

831
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:35,380
However, if they're not showing up, you know, we need someone else in their place. That's my personal opinion. I think 25% isn't too much. I think

832
01:16:37,750 --> 01:16:56,070
25%'s fine, but I do think that they need to be. I don't know if they need to be automatically, automatically removed, but that's why I wanted the language change to say, if there could be a vote within their board to remove them. There, there's automatically going to be a vote within their board.

833
01:16:57,790 --> 01:17:01,330
So the board doesn't appoint them, you do.

834
01:17:01,570 --> 01:17:01,910
Oh yeah.

835
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,760
No, it's any board commissioner committee set up by the council.

836
01:17:17,180 --> 01:17:21,640
Could we change it to a vote on council to remove them?

837
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:23,380
You can do that anyway.

838
01:17:24,740 --> 01:17:28,500
This is, so we're talking about an automatic forfeiture.

839
01:17:28,500 --> 01:17:40,300
Do you want someone to automatically forfeit their position if they're absent for 25% of the meetings and their board and their board votes that they're unexcused absences?

840
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:59,760
Do you want to leave it I guess is the question because right now it says they miss 25 meetings of the regularly scheduled meetings in 12 months.

841
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,280
Without explanation acceptable to majority of the other members,

842
01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:08,360
she'll be deemed to have forfeited their position on the Board Commissioner Committee.

843
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:21,540
I don't think it's good to ever allow board members to remove other board members,

844
01:18:21,740 --> 01:18:23,060
because you appoint them.

845
01:18:25,180 --> 01:18:28,240
And quite frankly, on the other side of that,

846
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,760
right now we spend a lot of time discussing committees and board members.

847
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:39,120
I mean, I don't want to have to be discussing. Also, will they miss three meetings and so you get them off just

848
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:45,100
And you'll know that going in. It's like, hey, we have 12 meetings to see if you miss three

849
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:50,480
They sound an application says I know when the meetings are. I think we really need to be there

850
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:55,700
So you're gonna you want to leave it as is. I think so. Yes. All right. So that would be a no vote

851
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:02,520
Yes, no, hold on. What is that? Hold on if you want to leave the automatic removal

852
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:04,960
In place it's a no

853
01:19:17,790 --> 01:19:23,350
All right, he's dead I'm gonna mark him off, okay, I'll say yes

854
01:19:23,950 --> 01:19:25,210
You're gonna say no

855
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:30,270
Yeah, I'm gonna yes, I'm gonna know all right. So he's

856
01:19:34,750 --> 01:19:35,710
All right.

857
01:19:35,710 --> 01:19:36,610
Are you an assassin?

858
01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:37,830
Well, yes and no.

859
01:19:37,950 --> 01:19:39,250
Yes, we have no point.

860
01:19:43,250 --> 01:19:45,390
So, all right.

861
01:19:45,930 --> 01:19:53,970
So, 9.01 says that the PNZ elects our officers in January of each year.

862
01:19:54,530 --> 01:19:56,450
That is not when they elect their officers.

863
01:19:56,450 --> 01:19:59,970
So, um, this-

864
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:12,000
This would remove that requirement and allow the commissioners to appoint in July a chairman

865
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,080
and a vice-chairman when they are appointed by the council.

866
01:20:20,940 --> 01:20:27,500
Well, I think, so here's, remember, that's the ballot language. I know, just give me one

867
01:20:27,500 --> 01:20:36,600
One second, the actual amended language is, just give me one second.

868
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,160
That is 9.59.

869
01:20:41,140 --> 01:20:49,420
No, no, no, it strikes that one sentence.

870
01:20:49,780 --> 01:20:53,180
In January of each year, the Commission shall elect from its members of Chairman Vice

871
01:20:53,180 --> 01:20:58,040
chairman of the secretary to serve for one year beginning in that month. And it just

872
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:03,760
is silent. Okay, they do whatever they want.

873
01:21:06,420 --> 01:21:07,860
Which one are we talking about?

874
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:20,980
So do we want to strike? Are we going to strike in January? I mean, we're trying to remove

875
01:21:20,980 --> 01:21:25,640
stuff because we want to narrow it down. Now, I think it should be like I feel like it

876
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:31,920
should be changed, but if we don't change it, as I've asked before, are there any repercussions

877
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,120
that if we don't change it?

878
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:40,120
So the only guess, I think this is one of these things that could, you know, when people

879
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:47,920
are suing the city over a zoning case and a land use case, my experience is they throw every

880
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:54,380
single piece of crap up against the wall and the thing that you never thought that a judge

881
01:21:54,380 --> 01:21:59,280
would buy is what sticks. Okay, well in that case, yes.

882
01:22:10,690 --> 01:22:11,450
Okay.

883
01:22:15,610 --> 01:22:18,250
So the charter

884
01:22:18,250 --> 01:22:27,830
currently says that the commission has to meet once a month and say that minutes

885
01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:30,510
will be recorded by the commission's secretary.

886
01:22:30,850 --> 01:22:31,870
There is no such thing.

887
01:22:32,710 --> 01:22:36,510
So this would say the commission shall meet as necessary

888
01:22:37,210 --> 01:22:39,790
and shall keep minutes of the proceedings

889
01:22:39,790 --> 01:22:41,370
which shall be a public record

890
01:22:41,370 --> 01:22:43,550
and shall serve without compensation.

891
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:45,610
So it takes away the language

892
01:22:45,610 --> 01:22:47,870
regarding the commission's secretary.

893
01:22:48,030 --> 01:22:51,630
Is this one of those walls?

894
01:22:52,090 --> 01:22:54,490
Yeah, because if they don't meet once a month?

895
01:22:54,930 --> 01:22:54,990
Yeah.

896
01:22:55,630 --> 01:22:56,050
Okay.

897
01:22:56,270 --> 01:22:56,510
Yes.

898
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:15,720
All right. Okay. 9.02 had in the duties and powers of the commission. The commission

899
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:24,200
develops the comprehensive plan. That doesn't happen. The plan is developed with participation

900
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:33,600
by the commission. I don't think that this one is a huge thing. What about you for it? I'm going to say no. Oh, okay. Go.

901
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:37,060
Yes.

902
01:23:44,370 --> 01:23:45,470
I said yes.

903
01:23:49,020 --> 01:23:50,400
I'm alone now, huh?

904
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,420
No, there were two notes. 421.

905
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,680
Okay, that makes me feel a little better. Thank you.

906
01:23:58,780 --> 01:23:59,300
421.

907
01:23:59,300 --> 01:23:59,500
one.

908
01:24:03,990 --> 01:24:05,290
You were the maybe.

909
01:24:07,370 --> 01:24:08,670
Two is a no.

910
01:24:10,930 --> 01:24:12,810
The middle box is no.

911
01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:22,220
Okay,

912
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,240
the next one is 35

913
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:50,960
So this one has to do with the commission's, it says the commission shall review flats and zoning requests and make a report to the City Council.

914
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:59,780
The big issue here is this seems to require all flats to go to the commission.

915
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:29,600
And they make a recommendation. Well, they have authority to be the final decision maker and they are the final decision maker. So this would make that subject a challenge. And then further, state law has changed this past year to allow administrative approval of Plats because it's a ministerial act. So if the

916
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:33,060
The plaque conforms to the ordinances it has to be approved.

917
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,860
That could be done at the staff level.

918
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:38,100
It doesn't have-

919
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:42,920
Basically just saying let it roll away the state has dictated, we have staff that takes

920
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:43,540
care of something.

921
01:25:45,260 --> 01:25:45,640
Yeah, but-

922
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:51,260
The right now the charter says it makes a report to the City Council for the adoption of final

923
01:25:51,260 --> 01:25:51,500
plaque.

924
01:25:51,580 --> 01:25:52,660
We don't do that.

925
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:53,240
Right.

926
01:25:53,240 --> 01:26:05,260
because our ordinance actually says that we're limited to comply with statutory

927
01:26:05,260 --> 01:26:05,740
language.

928
01:26:08,570 --> 01:26:12,710
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

929
01:26:20,670 --> 01:26:21,950
We will get to.

930
01:26:25,630 --> 01:26:35,210
I'm a yes. Yes. All right. 36. I asked

931
01:26:35,210 --> 01:26:43,490
for, I don't care about it. What it does is it puts in the charter that all parts of

932
01:26:43,490 --> 01:26:51,750
all ordinances are severable. I put that in every ordinance anyway, so as long as I'm your

933
01:26:51,750 --> 01:26:57,510
city attorney it's okay, but this would just make it so whether it's in the actual ordinance

934
01:26:57,510 --> 01:26:58,110
or not.

935
01:27:01,310 --> 01:27:07,910
Yes, so if an ordinance contains some language that a court finds is unlawful.

936
01:27:08,990 --> 01:27:16,050
The court leaves if that provision is severed out, the rest of the ordinance can remain

937
01:27:16,050 --> 01:27:24,210
in place. If it is not severed, then the whole ordinance is invalidated. And the charter

938
01:27:24,210 --> 01:27:42,650
says that if any section of the charter is held invalid, it's separable. I ask that it be changed to if any section of the charter or any ordinance of the city, but if you don't want to add ordinance, and you want to call it, I don't care.

939
01:27:59,930 --> 01:28:04,710
All right. I'm going to call him dead. Are we good?

940
01:28:05,070 --> 01:28:07,270
Yes. Six to one.

941
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:21,720
Anxation. What we did here was we left. This proposal would say unless

942
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:27,560
less prohibited by state law, the City Council should have the power by ordinance by a vote of not less than four concurring votes.

943
01:28:28,140 --> 01:28:32,300
To fix the boundary limits of the city and provide for annexation, blah, blah, blah, blah.

944
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:38,600
And we're saying, we're going to add that, unless prohibited by state law.

945
01:28:38,900 --> 01:28:39,240
Why?

946
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:47,240
Because that would give us the ability, if that comes back to us.

947
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:52,900
If we don't change it, it's probably still in there but it doesn't mean anything.

948
01:28:53,960 --> 01:29:03,940
So, well, by state law, but it would just say, this says we can, state law says we can't.

949
01:29:03,940 --> 01:29:09,660
If you want to leave it as we can, that's okay.

950
01:29:10,180 --> 01:29:11,440
We just don't.

951
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:14,040
No.

952
01:29:21,740 --> 01:29:37,340
Maybe I'll make it a maybe maybe if I were recommending something to kill, I would kill

953
01:29:37,340 --> 01:29:37,740
that one.

954
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:42,520
He's killed.

955
01:29:44,420 --> 01:29:59,620
This one is important because right now your disaster clause says that the Chamber, the highest surviving members of the local Chamber of Commerce and the Board of Trustees.

956
01:30:00,020 --> 01:30:12,280
And of the school district and the county judge appoint a temporary commission until a council can be elected. I don't think you want the chamber and the school district involved.

957
01:30:18,820 --> 01:30:25,320
Yes, I want you want to take out the school district I don't want

958
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:37,560
to change it yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, all right, good.

959
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:48,680
So this is the one that says, currently says, all public records of every office department

960
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:54,840
or agency of the city shall be open to expect inspection by any person at all reasonable

961
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:55,740
business hours.

962
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:03,740
And the Public Information Act says that we have, you know, we can set up a time for them

963
01:31:03,740 --> 01:31:04,540
to come view it.

964
01:31:04,540 --> 01:31:13,760
They can't just come in, stomp their foot, snap their fingers, and take Lynette away from preparing election ballots that have to be sent to the county that day.

965
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:20,620
So you're taking out by any person that always knows a business and adding pursuant to the Texas information?

966
01:31:21,060 --> 01:31:26,500
Yes. This is one of those really necessary in case we have that person.

967
01:31:26,500 --> 01:31:33,920
every city will have that person yet center or later yes yes I'm

968
01:31:36,250 --> 01:31:38,970
a yes yes that's

969
01:31:38,970 --> 01:31:45,890
because you love Lynette hey we're on the last one right

970
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:49,580
now we have 16

971
01:31:53,450 --> 01:31:54,330
go ahead

972
01:31:54,330 --> 01:31:59,990
number 40. 15.02 on 40. I am a no. But

973
01:32:04,050 --> 01:32:10,270
you're what? I'm a no. Because I want them to

974
01:32:24,140 --> 01:32:30,640
Okay, well, yeah, we're gonna chop the tail off the bed. I can eat you to time, but yeah, no

975
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:42,720
All right, no, no, all right

976
01:32:47,340 --> 01:32:55,200
Yeah, so let's how many do we break and tell let go tally well before we take a break

977
01:32:55,200 --> 01:33:00,700
Yeah, would could we go back and I need to get the tally's for the first

978
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,820
Here I'll give you my thing. Okay, I need me. All right

979
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:20,120
.

980
01:33:47,390 --> 01:33:48,790
.

981
01:33:53,190 --> 01:33:54,590
.

982
01:33:54,590 --> 01:33:54,890
.

983
01:33:56,270 --> 01:33:59,690
Well, the level may drop out, that may drop out.

984
01:34:01,610 --> 01:34:03,070
Thank you for your work, sir.

985
01:34:04,110 --> 01:34:04,310
All right.

986
01:34:04,590 --> 01:34:05,330
I know.

987
01:34:05,750 --> 01:34:05,990
I know.

988
01:34:06,030 --> 01:34:06,130
I know.

989
01:34:08,810 --> 01:34:09,530
It was.

990
01:34:11,390 --> 01:34:11,870
Morning.

991
01:34:12,010 --> 01:34:12,730
Is it too much?

992
01:34:12,870 --> 01:34:14,310
I'm afraid people will be thinking.

993
01:34:17,350 --> 01:34:18,530
Well, over there.

994
01:34:21,250 --> 01:34:22,770
There's something really important.

995
01:34:43,490 --> 01:34:47,550
You probably love this meeting don't you a lot a lot of

996
01:34:47,550 --> 01:34:49,990
That's a plickable stuff to the police department.

997
01:34:50,330 --> 01:34:51,630
Here are me, am I in here?

998
01:34:51,630 --> 01:34:52,490
Here you are.

999
01:34:52,510 --> 01:34:53,390
It's a tool.

1000
01:34:53,790 --> 01:34:55,210
I made her some doodles at home.

1001
01:34:55,610 --> 01:34:57,110
Are you in?

1002
01:34:57,410 --> 01:34:57,670
I'm good.

1003
01:34:57,990 --> 01:34:58,150
Yes.

1004
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,260
I'm going to get another water. That's all we're going to do.

1005
01:35:07,660 --> 01:35:08,340
Thank you, sir.

1006
01:35:11,660 --> 01:35:13,080
Did you need the first?

1007
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:15,400
No.

1008
01:35:17,740 --> 01:35:19,420
Yes, sir, no.

1009
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,500
Let your yes be, yes, and you know me, no.

1010
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:35,680
How do you get your chart made out of the body here I just all over the place that my

1011
01:36:43,750 --> 01:36:44,150
Yeah.

1012
01:36:44,990 --> 01:36:45,390
Yeah.

1013
01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:47,530
Also, my next speaker.

1014
01:36:48,310 --> 01:36:49,750
It's just a second time speaker.

1015
01:36:50,230 --> 01:36:50,450
Yeah.

1016
01:36:50,690 --> 01:36:50,810
Good.

1017
01:36:50,970 --> 01:36:51,570
I'm glad you did.

1018
01:36:54,110 --> 01:36:55,230
Does that mean I have to?

1019
01:36:56,390 --> 01:36:57,110
I'm counting on this.

1020
01:36:57,690 --> 01:36:57,950
Yeah.

1021
01:36:58,090 --> 01:36:58,470
I'm sorry.

1022
01:36:58,810 --> 01:36:59,350
I'm sorry.

1023
01:36:59,710 --> 01:36:59,890
Yeah.

1024
01:37:00,290 --> 01:37:01,630
I'm sorry.

1025
01:37:02,110 --> 01:37:02,650
I'm sorry.

1026
01:37:02,730 --> 01:37:05,470
How do you mean the, yes, but, yes.

1027
01:37:05,630 --> 01:37:05,910
Yes, that's a good one.

1028
01:37:06,210 --> 01:37:06,870
Yes, that's a good one.

1029
01:37:07,030 --> 01:37:08,010
That's a good one.

1030
01:37:08,650 --> 01:37:09,910
I hope that's a good one.

1031
01:37:10,350 --> 01:37:11,370
I'll make sure you turn it side.

1032
01:38:35,260 --> 01:38:42,160
It's a, it's the one out of Sioux Falls, something, but it's going to, uh, Menton, Texas.

1033
01:39:00,430 --> 01:39:04,810
I'll get in at 7.30, so I'm going to go to the first thing I'll check.

1034
01:39:06,250 --> 01:39:08,870
Thank you very much.

1035
01:39:09,750 --> 01:39:10,370
Thank you very much.

1036
01:40:43,630 --> 01:40:44,990
Yep.

1037
01:40:47,450 --> 01:40:51,730
We have 16 unanimous.

1038
01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:58,720
How many of those unanimous are

1039
01:40:58,720 --> 01:40:58,980
known.

1040
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:02,580
No, we are not.

1041
01:41:02,660 --> 01:41:04,720
You just cross us up.

1042
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,080
So these are 16 unanimous.

1043
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:09,600
Yes, ballot items.

1044
01:41:10,340 --> 01:41:11,960
There are 9, 6 to 1.

1045
01:41:12,340 --> 01:41:14,080
So let's be the 6 to 1.

1046
01:41:14,440 --> 01:41:15,180
All right.

1047
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,660
The first one is shall the

1048
01:41:17,660 --> 01:41:19,800
responsibility to present an annual

1049
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:24,880
state of the city be moved from the mayor to the entire city council.

1050
01:41:25,380 --> 01:41:27,020
Number two.

1051
01:41:29,220 --> 01:41:35,080
The only reason I would make me is because I don't think that's something you have to go on the ballot, that's a similar request.

1052
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:39,920
But it's in the charter that it says that that's the duty of the mayor.

1053
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:46,660
Right, but what I'm saying is as the mayor, if everyone says, hey, we want to do it all together, that's easy for them to do this.

1054
01:41:46,860 --> 01:41:49,500
That's for a reasonable mayor.

1055
01:41:50,300 --> 01:41:54,140
I mean, I have mayors in cities who would say no.

1056
01:41:59,180 --> 01:42:09,800
Well, but that's it I have two cities right now where the staff is preparing the state

1057
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:17,700
of the city to be reviewed by the council to then be presented by the mayor and not the

1058
01:42:17,700 --> 01:42:21,220
commission felt like that was the process that should be followed.

1059
01:42:27,590 --> 01:42:28,750
I would

1060
01:42:36,180 --> 01:42:40,380
probably say the six to ones should go on the ballot.

1061
01:42:41,980 --> 01:42:44,380
I mean, that gives you 27.

1062
01:42:45,900 --> 01:42:47,340
That's not a bad number,

1063
01:42:50,750 --> 01:42:53,490
16, oh, gives you 25, 16 to 9.

1064
01:43:07,550 --> 01:43:11,410
Okay, which ones are it's six to one okay, just give me one second

1065
01:43:23,490 --> 01:43:25,670
Hi, I mean the ones that are 621 right now.

1066
01:43:25,790 --> 01:43:26,230
I'm 621.

1067
01:43:26,990 --> 01:43:27,270
621.

1068
01:43:27,270 --> 01:43:28,790
So for two, eight

1069
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:33,540
-

1070
01:43:33,540 --> 01:43:34,620
Hold on, hold on, hold on.

1071
01:43:35,180 --> 01:43:37,120
I mean, it's so, it's harder for me.

1072
01:43:37,340 --> 01:43:38,540
Hey, didn't you send a marker?

1073
01:43:41,090 --> 01:43:41,490
Yeah.

1074
01:43:41,710 --> 01:43:43,030
And this thing's kind of hard to you.

1075
01:43:43,530 --> 01:43:43,930
Eight.

1076
01:43:44,410 --> 01:43:44,770
Okay.

1077
01:43:45,290 --> 01:43:45,810
Number 9.

1078
01:44:00,140 --> 01:44:00,700
Oh, 15.

1079
01:44:02,660 --> 01:44:03,060
15.

1080
01:44:03,740 --> 01:44:04,160
Oh, I have

1081
01:44:06,850 --> 01:44:07,210
a V.

1082
01:44:07,410 --> 01:44:07,970
I'm 15.

1083
01:44:14,130 --> 01:44:14,690
One and two.

1084
01:44:15,310 --> 01:44:15,670
And

1085
01:44:22,230 --> 01:44:22,450
that's it?

1086
01:44:22,990 --> 01:44:23,190
Yes.

1087
01:44:23,690 --> 01:44:25,110
The goes of the 621s.

1088
01:44:25,350 --> 01:44:25,530
Yeah.

1089
01:44:25,810 --> 01:44:25,970
Yes.

1090
01:44:25,970 --> 01:44:32,870
All right, did you say six was on there six six seven eight? No

1091
01:44:38,250 --> 01:44:40,770
10 and 13 got it

1092
01:44:43,450 --> 01:44:44,210
25

1093
01:44:55,970 --> 01:44:59,730
The speed is 3, 2, 3, 4, 5.

1094
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,300
All right, don't go so fast, okay?

1095
01:45:06,110 --> 01:45:15,130
We can only do one proposition

1096
01:45:20,570 --> 01:45:28,990
11, 12, what else?

1097
01:45:31,330 --> 01:45:32,930
10 on 16.

1098
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:45,020
No, they're different. One is 3.06 requires you to be physically present

1099
01:45:45,020 --> 01:45:54,760
at 80% of the meetings within a calendar year. Four would require a unanimous vote of

1100
01:45:54,760 --> 01:46:04,560
city council to clear a council seat vacant versus a majority vote. I would take a look

1101
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:08,540
at the five to choose honestly and probably stop there.

1102
01:46:08,540 --> 01:46:08,600
I'm sorry.

1103
01:46:09,460 --> 01:46:10,220
Okay, hold on.

1104
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:10,960
Can we get through?

1105
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:11,700
Yes.

1106
01:46:11,940 --> 01:46:14,020
Following us the ones that are the exits.

1107
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:15,180
I mean, I did have 16.

1108
01:46:16,060 --> 01:46:16,400
20?

1109
01:46:17,020 --> 01:46:17,840
20 bullets.

1110
01:46:19,180 --> 01:46:19,700
24?

1111
01:46:21,480 --> 01:46:22,000
27?

1112
01:46:22,440 --> 01:46:22,660
Hold on.

1113
01:46:23,460 --> 01:46:23,980
Sorry.

1114
01:46:24,440 --> 01:46:25,360
20, 21.

1115
01:46:25,540 --> 01:46:26,540
24, 27?

1116
01:46:38,740 --> 01:46:41,410
35, 38.

1117
01:46:42,150 --> 01:46:42,370
Okay.

1118
01:46:42,950 --> 01:46:43,390
39.

1119
01:46:44,490 --> 01:46:45,350
Where do you need them?

1120
01:46:45,430 --> 01:46:45,690
Yes.

1121
01:46:46,170 --> 01:46:46,530
Okay.

1122
01:46:46,710 --> 01:46:49,250
I left off at 30, over the last ones.

1123
01:46:49,250 --> 01:46:50,170
Yeah.

1124
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:07,340
Number four is five to two.

1125
01:47:10,430 --> 01:47:11,470
I'm looking at it.

1126
01:47:21,580 --> 01:47:23,740
That's the only five to two.

1127
01:47:28,380 --> 01:47:28,680
Yeah.

1128
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:45,200
Yeah, that's the one that says that if you miss 80% yeah,

1129
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:48,600
let me finish.

1130
01:47:53,690 --> 01:47:55,550
Right. If you

1131
01:47:55,550 --> 01:48:02,010
You miss 80% of the, you're not physically present in 80% of the calendar year.

1132
01:48:02,710 --> 01:48:08,190
You can be kicked out of office by a majority vote of the council currently,

1133
01:48:10,340 --> 01:48:10,800
correct?

1134
01:48:11,820 --> 01:48:14,960
You know, it's not me, it's what the commission said.

1135
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:15,040
Yeah.

1136
01:48:15,220 --> 01:48:20,360
The commission chose unanimous because they thought that you're undoing the election by making

1137
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:22,900
somebody out of office is really like it.

1138
01:48:23,300 --> 01:48:26,120
I certainly didn't think it should be a majority vote, clearly.

1139
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:35,780
But didn't we already say in the 1-4 that if you miss 3-4-3 and excuse you're out. No, then there's a vote of the council.

1140
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:44,680
Right. Can we, instead of a unanimous, why don't we do like the other ones where we change it to 2-3?

1141
01:48:49,580 --> 01:48:58,240
I don't mean to put words in the, uh,

1142
01:49:01,820 --> 01:49:03,660
these people were duly elected.

1143
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:10,980
They were elected, so it needs to be basically act of Congress to be able to kick them out of office.

1144
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:33,920
Yes, yes, we're looking at three number four number four basically moving

1145
01:49:39,500 --> 01:49:40,540
Yes, yes.

1146
01:49:44,210 --> 01:49:45,250
All right.

1147
01:49:45,250 --> 01:49:46,330
Excuse me once again,

1148
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:52,160
I'm on the stage in those days.

1149
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:56,620
There was a lot of effort and time spent on my glitch.

1150
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:59,260
Or what I noticed or what made me think.

1151
01:49:59,260 --> 01:49:59,980
So I think you can...

1152
01:50:07,500 --> 01:50:23,040
Local government changing it from unanimous to three-quarter or two-thirds. I think their point was they should be a whole lot more than a simple majority to unseat someone who's been elected. So the term unanimous wasn't.

1153
01:50:25,270 --> 01:50:37,250
I just had a question about that, Brenda. If that person was the person that was up for getting booted, basically, they wouldn't have the ability to vote. Right, no.

1154
01:50:41,710 --> 01:50:45,750
no. It says unanimously approved by the remaining City Council.

1155
01:50:46,170 --> 01:50:57,350
Okay. Which one? 26. 26? No, no. 26 items for the ballot. Oh, okay. And the rest

1156
01:50:57,350 --> 01:51:02,410
of them then weren't really close. There was like one that was,

1157
01:51:07,060 --> 01:51:09,880
oh, 27. No, 20, it was 25

1158
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:11,960
five and then we added number four and make it 26.

1159
01:51:15,410 --> 01:51:16,790
Then we added number four,

1160
01:51:22,020 --> 01:51:23,980
do

1161
01:52:31,250 --> 01:52:35,830
them in order of importance or we can do it by section

1162
01:52:35,830 --> 01:52:37,490
number like you've looked at them here.

1163
01:52:37,550 --> 01:52:43,910
Well I would personally, I would like the first one on there is the one about the economic

1164
01:52:43,910 --> 01:52:44,350
development.

1165
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:50,680
The other ones aren't as big of a deal to me but I don't want that to be buried in the middle

1166
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:56,660
and then they're tired of voting on 26 items and so they...

1167
01:52:56,660 --> 01:52:57,920
Okay, I can do that.

1168
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:04,800
Right, that's the only one I really, really care about to be at number one.

1169
01:53:04,980 --> 01:53:08,740
And then what a great thing to be able to do is just play the language to me.

1170
01:53:12,700 --> 01:53:14,900
Break out the other ones that you just need.

1171
01:53:15,300 --> 01:53:18,680
Put the state law compatibility last.

1172
01:53:19,700 --> 01:53:21,420
No, that should go second.

1173
01:53:22,540 --> 01:53:25,460
Because those are the ones that we need, so that we don't get sick.

1174
01:53:25,460 --> 01:53:37,620
I think after the economic development, whatever, I do think that the bone was found.

1175
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:43,260
We can do the unanimous ones next, and then the six to ones next.

1176
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:44,320
That works.

1177
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:46,620
okay then

1178
01:53:48,770 --> 01:53:50,750
unanimous

1179
01:53:54,270 --> 01:53:59,890
would it

1180
01:54:07,470 --> 01:54:11,450
have to have or couldn't we even have a place to

1181
01:54:11,450 --> 01:54:17,470
check if they wanted them all you can't do that you can't do that but you can

1182
01:54:17,470 --> 01:54:22,910
vote politically no you can't not anymore you can't do it anymore no straight

1183
01:54:25,090 --> 01:54:34,070
Well excuse me, no we've got to put it we'll put it on the next meeting with

1184
01:54:34,070 --> 01:54:37,590
the ordinance calling the election yeah

1185
01:54:41,750 --> 01:54:49,470
you just have to send to me who's yeah

1186
01:54:52,630 --> 01:54:53,690
It's, she's gonna have to.

1187
01:54:54,230 --> 01:54:54,430
Yeah.

1188
01:54:54,670 --> 01:54:55,790
I'm, I'm, I'm gonna have to.

1189
01:54:55,870 --> 01:54:57,770
Thank you guys again so far.

1190
01:54:58,090 --> 01:54:58,630
Yeah, thank you.

1191
01:54:58,630 --> 01:54:58,830
Alright.

1192
01:55:01,230 --> 01:55:06,270
Did you, did you want to say anything? You sure?

1193
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:12,380
Good.

1194
01:56:00,970 --> 01:56:04,310
Make a motion that we prepare the ballot as discussed.

1195
01:56:12,770 --> 01:56:13,130
Aye.

1196
01:56:19,460 --> 01:56:21,900
I'll make a motion to adjourn.

1197
01:56:24,180 --> 01:56:27,520
Second. Second. Third.

1198
01:56:33,420 --> 01:56:34,140
Aye.

1199
01:56:49,100 --> 01:56:55,900
Thanks for the pizza, you know I have to eat some probably three or four nights around

1200
01:56:55,900 --> 01:57:01,840
my kids rob it and yesterday we're not going to use my parents and to of course take

1201
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:07,340
50 to pizza and I'm not complaining, I just had a lot of pizza waste, yeah absolutely.