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Good evening, everyone. At this time, I'd like to call the close session of the city council housing authority to order. We will adjourn this meeting to a regular meeting on Monday, September 21st, 2026. Take place here in council chambers. Close session will begin at 5.30 p.m. And welcome session will commence at 7 p.m. I think I'm reading right. If you are joining us remotely and would like to speak, oh, because they can join remotely now, got it. On any of the close session items, please wait for further directions from the city clerk.

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Thank you Mayor, Council Member Martin, good evening everyone, Council Member Preciado.

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Here.

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Council Member Garcia.

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Here.

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Council Member Annoverse Cole is absent at this time.

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Council Member Lestro.

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Here.

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Vice-American Alice.

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Here.

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Mayor Sandeval.

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I am here as well.

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So next item.

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The next item is public comment.

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at this time the public is invited to address the council concerning any items on the closed

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session agenda only and we do not have any speakers present or online.

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Okay very good all right so that means we can go in the closed session. Thank you.

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All right let's do it.

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Let me start. Let me get started and we'll go okay.

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I good evening everyone and thank you for being here. Welcome to the Pomona City Council meeting.

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At this time I'd like to call the meeting of the City Council Housing Authority to order and

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And to turn this time over to the City Attorney for a report on the closed session.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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We had four closed session items this evening, all regarding existing litigation.

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We do not have report of all action.

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Thank you, Councillor.

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Just a reminder, we will adjourn this meeting to a revenue meeting on Monday, September 21st,

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which sounds like next Monday, which will take place here in Council Chambers.

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As always, closed-session will commence at 5.30 p.m. and open-session will happen at 7 p.m.

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I also would like to ask you very politely to make sure that you silence your phones or turn them off altogether.

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And a reminder, water is fine, but anything else is prohibited from the council chambers, like food and other drinks that could stay in our

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are relatively new carpet, okay.

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So, no, Carl, you don't need to do that.

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So, we're gonna do the pledge of allegiance.

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I'd like to ask everyone very politely

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to please stand for the pledge.

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Thank you, Council Member, on a very cool.

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Just a reminder for in-person and virtual participants,

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you may access translation services

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by using the camera of your personal device

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to capture the QR code, which you will find back here.

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You will also find it up here.

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You can choose to read the transcript or listen to it using your headset.

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If you need a headset, one can be borrowed in the foyer.

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Speaking during public comment or to an item this evening in Spanish,

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we will be projecting the English translation on the screen.

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Please be sure to pause in between sentences and speak clearly into the microphone.

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Dana.

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Para los participantes presenciales como los virtuales pueden acceder a los servicios

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de traducción utilizando su dispositivo personal para escanar el código QR que se muestra

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en la pantalla durante los comentarios públicos, así como los que se encuentran en el vestibulo

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y en la cámara.

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Si necesita audifonos, puede pedir prestados unos en el vestibulo.

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night in Spanish, the English translation will be projected on the screen.

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To make sure a precise translation, please do pause between prayers and speak clearly

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to the microphone.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Dan.

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All right, Carlos, please call the roll.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Council Member Martin.

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Good evening, everyone.

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Council Member Preciado.

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Councilmember Garcia. Good evening. Councilmember Anavero School. Good evening. Councilmember

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Lestro. Vice Mayor Canales. Here. Mayor Sandevol. Here as well. Okay let's go ahead and

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please read the next item. The next item is presentation and the first one is a

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proclamation of the City Council of the City of Pomona recognizing September 2026 as

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childhood cancer month in the City of Pomona.

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Mayor, there isn't anyone here to

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receive it just so you know okay I'll

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read it to you all a

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proclamation getting

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to that age a

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proclamation of the City Council of the City of Pomona County of Los Angeles State of California

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proclaiming the month of September 2026 as Child Care Cancer Awareness Month in the City of Pomona

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whereas the American Cancer Fund for Children and Kids Cancer Connection report that

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cancer is the leading cause of death by disease among the U.S. children

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between infancy and the age of 15. This tragic disease is detected in more

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than 16,000 of our country's young people every single year and an

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estimated 400,000 children and adolescents globally every year. And whereas one in

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five of our nation's children loses his or her battle with cancer.

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Many infants, teens, and children and teens will suffer from long-term effects of

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comprehensive treatment, including secondary cancers. And whereas founded over

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30 years ago by Steve Firestein, a member of the Philanthropy.

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Max Factor Cosmetics Family, the American Cancer Fund for Children Incorporated and Kids Cancer Connection Incorporated, are dedicated to helping these children and their families.

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And whereas the American Cancer Fund for Children and Cancer Kids Connection provide a variety of vital patients.

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I'm sorry, Psychosocial Services to Children undergoing cancer treatment at Children's Hospital, Los Angeles.

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City of Hope National Medical Center, Cedar Sinites Medical Center,

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Mattel Children's Hospital UCLA, LA County, USC Medical Center,

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and U.S. and UCLA Medical Center Santa Monica, Harbor UCLA Medical Center, as well as participating hospitals throughout the country, thereby enhancing the quality of life for each child and their families.

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And whereas the American Cancer Fund for Children and Kids Cancer Connection also sponsor toy distributions,

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home and hospital instructional programs, family saling programs,

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pet assistance therapy, laughter noon, laughter is healing, KCC superstar experience,

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first responder programs and hospital celebrations in honor of a child's determination and bravery to fight the battle against childhood cancer.

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Now, therefore, it to be proclaimed that the City Council of the City of Pomona does

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hereby call upon all Pomonans to join in recognizing the month of September 2026 as childhood

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cancer awareness month dated this 14th of September 2026.

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The next proclamation is a proclamation of the City Council of the City of Pomona recognizing

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and September 15th to October 15th,

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2026 as National Hispanic Heritage Month in the City of Pomona.

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And this is to be received by Lydia Manzanaris,

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President of the Latino, Latina Roundtable,

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Dr. Calderon, Professor Emeritus at Pizzar College,

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and Minerva Hernandez, founder of the Pomona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.

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Okay, so I know some names recall what all of you

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who are connected to those organizations.

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Come on up, okay?

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So I think it was the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.

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Please come on up, the Latino-Latino Roundtable,

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and the Phonate Economic Opportunity Center.

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Yeah, please come on up here, please.

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Do we have anyone from the PEOC here?

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And that's OK.

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We'll just have to save there.

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But let's go and move down.

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Let's move down.

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Let's make room of this entire space here, OK?

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OK, so you're going to be using this, OK?

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Oh, yeah, that's it.

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Yeah, you're good.

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Good evening.

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A proclamation of the City Council of the City of Pomona County, Los Angeles, state of California proclaiming September 15th to October 15th, 2026, as National Hispanic Heritage Month in the City of Pomona.

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Whereas National Heritage Month, known as Missed NCI Hispanic, is celebrated nationwide from September 15th through October 15th each year, the observation started in 1968 as Hispanic Heritage Week and expanded by President Ronald Reagan in 1988.

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to cover the month at which it is celebrated today.

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Understanding that September 15 is significant

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because it is the anniversary of independence

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for Latin American countries, Costa Rica,

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El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua.

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In addition, Mexico and Chile celebrate their independence days

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on September 16th and 18th respectively.

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And whereas many community-based organizations,

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such as La Cámara de Comercio, Espana de Pomona,

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the Latino-Latina Roundtable and the Pomona Economic Opportunity Center celebrate

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Missed at NC Espana with the greater community to highlight the rich heritage, arts, histories,

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food, music, and traditions of all 26 plus Latin American nations, while recognizing that

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these communities are not homogeneous and that this month celebrates honors and pays tribute

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to the diverse voices, cultures, and lived experiences, especially in light of ongoing challenges

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is faced by the Hispanic communities,

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including discriminatory immigration policies,

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federal action that continue to threaten the well-being

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and dignity of many, and whereas Latinos are individuals

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are descendants from Latin American countries

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and may speak a variety of different languages.

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Hispanics are individuals that speak Spanish

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and are descendants from Spanish-speaking countries,

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including Spain.

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Latinx is a gender neutral or non-binary term

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for people of Latin American descent

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And we recognize the Latinx identity also encompasses people in black, African, Asian, Indigenous, and queer communities.

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And whereas the city of Pomona recognizes the significant contributions of all Hispanic Pomonans,

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city employees, commissioners, and numerous grassroots leaders and outreach groups that help increase cultural awareness,

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education, enrichment, and community engagement with our residents.

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It is through their support and community involvement that our city has continued to become more culturally diverse.

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and a welcoming city for everyone and whereas the city of Pomona is committed to recognizing Hispanic Latino and Latinx culture and heritage as an important part of the city and its strong inclusive community.

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Now therefore, let it be resolved that the city of Pomona does hereby proclaim September 15th to October 15th, 2026 as National Hispanic Heritage Month and calls its observance to all residents.

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This stated 14th day of September.

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evening my name is Lina Mira. I'm the executive director of the Latino

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Latino Roundtable and we want to acknowledge the City Council for this

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proclamation and for recognizing the contributions of the Latino community

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and also doing everything they can to make this community safer for all the

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Latinos here. Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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Gracias a la ciudad de Pomona por tomarnos en cuenta todos los ispanos este mes celebramos

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la independencia ispana y también agradecemos a nuestros consejales victor preciado y

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Nora García por ser parte de esta celebración en sábado gracias y bendiciones a todos.

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I should add, these are two of the organizations that are doing work, probably speaking, but

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with the Latino community, but I also would just want to acknowledge the new museum that's

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been opened up, West Vagasa Museum right here just across the street, which is a museum that

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is trying to bring more attention to the experiences of the Latino, checking out Chicano people through

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art and through gatherings and special events.

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So just want to acknowledge you from a council member,

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Christina Fattisossa and the work that you are all doing

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to bring more exposure to the community.

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Thank you, appreciate it.

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Thank you, everyone.

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Thank you.

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Thank you mayor. The next item is mayor, council member communications. These are reports on conferences, seminars and regional meetings attended by the mayor and city council and announcements of upcoming events and also items for future city council consideration as requested by the mayor or members of the city council. Additionally, this is the time for the mayor and city council to disclose on the record any contributions per charter section 1403. This section states prior to casting a vote on any contract permit or other matter requiring city council approval.

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where the applicant seeking approval is a person or business entity controlled by that person that has contributed more than

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$500 within the previous 12 months to a council member's city election campaign committee.

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The mayor or council member receiving such contributions shall disclose on the public record the receipt of said contributions.

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Thank you. I'm going to call on council member on a vertical first.

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Thank you mayor. Thank you very much for everybody coming tonight.

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There are a couple of things I'm concerned about in the city of Pomona tonight.

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And one of them is that I was invited by Council Martin here, who invited me to a business

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community center, a business community event.

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And it was done at Ganesha.

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It was really great.

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We had businessmen from West Holt.

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I went ahead and invited some of my East Holt business people.

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Some of them could show up.

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It was a pretty short notice, but they did show up,

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and I was really pleased.

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And one of my distinguished businessmen is Dr. Vowe.

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He has mentioned to me several times over the last five years

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in regards to helping the Pomona Police Department by honoring

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and trying to get them to hopefully maybe connect with the community better and perhaps he has brought it to my attention that he actually would donate an office space with utilities along with furniture, which would be a substation in one of his shopping centers.

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I found that to be very, very instrumental because of all the situations that are going on right now on hold Avenue, you know, which ones they are. I don't have to say it.

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But we also had another distinguished business person from West Holden, that was Dr. Patel and he had the same idea.

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So I'm going to ask hopefully that we can bring that up on the agenda sometimes so we can go ahead and discuss this.

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I think it's a very important part of our city that we have a substation.

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They have it in Fontana.

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They also have it in different cities.

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I believe Azusa, I'm not quite sure, but I know that they're doing that quite often

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now.

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And being that we're having a bigger, you know, our cities growing again, okay, it took a decline

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and now it's coming up again.

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So I would really like to see a substation on Easthold and hopefully get one on Westhold

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help to be able to have that appearance of having police officers available and not necessarily

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that they will be there 24-7, nothing like that.

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But when you have police presence, I think that really helps the declining of crime.

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So I really like to take that into consideration and see what my council colleagues think of

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Another concern that I have right now are the children, the young boys, that are now being videotaped on our streets.

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We have from 200 to 300, maybe 400 kids that are on their bikes, and they're coming into East Holt.

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I saw the video on East Holt, and there was a mess of them, I could not believe the amount of kids.

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And the business people actually came out and they saw what was happening.

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And some of them were just, they're actually taking photos of their friends as they're riding their bikes.

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Now some of them go in the same direction of the cars, but some of them go opposite.

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So what does that tell you?

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That tells you that there's going to be a very bad accident, a fatality perhaps.

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I don't think these kids are aware of the dangers.

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I don't know why they're coming in groves, but the thing is, it's not just on hold, but it's everywhere now.

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I just talked to a constituent and one was, he takes the metro every morning and he said at night when he comes home, at seven o'clock, he actually sees these kids.

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And they're not just two or three, there's like 50 of them.

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So I like to know what security is happening over there and Metro as well, because we're supposed to protect and keep our streets safe and you know

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These kids just really don't have any idea. They're just going doing their thing

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But to me, I'm sorry to say they're lawbreakers and when you're a law breaker

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You have to you have to pay for that whether I mean the children have families

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I'm sure maybe their parents don't even know what's happening

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So I would really like to maybe take that into consideration.

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I did see the video chief and I saw a police officer escorting them from the back.

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I like to have a discussion on that as well because I think it's very important.

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We don't want to lose a child and they're actually throwing things at the cars and they're

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saying some pretty bad things.

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So that's something that I think council needs to get involved in and I appreciate you listening.

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The second one, I need to know what's going to happen to, I see too many things going on in the city, but

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one of the things that is very disappointing to me and I've discussed this with Anita.

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And hopefully we could make some kind of a decision on what's going to happen.

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The streets of Pomona, they're becoming very, very filthy.

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They're becoming trashy I see clothing I see things that I've been left in the middle of the street

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And nobody has picked it up for weeks. I've seen a bag of cement and it's on town avenue and I see it

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It used to be full and now it's all broken up and it's in the middle of the street

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I see so many things that I've never seen before

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I like to know what when are we going to come to a decision to keep the city looking the way

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it should because we're we're we're we're we're we're doing we're doing the best that we can

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but when you don't have support and I'm saying this to the residents of the of Pomona as well

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if you have an item we have six special pickups a year please use that if you have furniture

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that you don't need anymore, don't wait for someone to come and may, oh, I could use that.

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Let's start using the six special pickups per year.

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They will take, so if this mattress is whatever.

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But you know what, as citizens, we have to do our due diligence and

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we have to be able to keep this city clean because we are citizens of Pomona.

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And I'm hoping that people will take that into consideration because we really have to have the help of the community.

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community but we also have to have a decision making on what is going to happen with the company that we work with.

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So I'm hoping that we can get this done and see an improvement in the city because it's getting worse.

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It's not getting any better.

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And when the winter comes and we have rain in everything, we're going to see all this stuff and it's going to look so bad.

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So it's time to pick it up.

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Okay, so that's my beef tonight.

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Thank you.

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Before I

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Continue with councilmember presale for those of you are standing. I need you to have a seat

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Okay, we cannot have anyone standing in the corridors. There's plenty of seats in council chambers

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You just have to find one but they are available if not if you don't feel comfortable sitting

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Then you can wait in the for you, which is perfectly fine as well because you'll be able to hear the meeting from then councilmember presiel

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Thank you. Good evening everybody. Welcome back. We did take a

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small break in between. It is a pleasure to see everybody back. I'll try to go through this as quickly as they can.

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I'd like to start off with congratulating Miss Lorraine Canalis and Miss Nora Garcia on their knee soccer fields over at Washington Park in Palomar's Park.

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They came out really beautiful and we are working to make sure that the kids in the soccer fields have an excellent season.

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And I'd like to thank the American Legion

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for inviting me to their commanders dinner.

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It was my first time attending.

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Just really appreciate it.

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And it was really just actually,

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it was on behalf of staff that I would say

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that I got the invitation,

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because they're very thankful for some of the conversations

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that we've been having with them

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to help them in their location and their space.

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And we're looking forward to see what else we can do

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to make sure that that place is restored

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for our veterans back to how it used to be

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and how it needs to be. So thank you for that. As far as Second Saturday Art Walk, there's another,

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I thought it was another great wonderful event. I appreciate everybody who continues to support that.

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It's been 32 years and the longest running Art Walk in the state and it's, I was just, I love finding

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new artists and if sometimes maybe you could just buy the smallest piece or the, you know, it really

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makes their day because they really pour their heart into it and then I love

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seeing just some of the other stuff as well. The kids had a lot of fun with a

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giant super slide that was out there that that was really nice. I will say

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there are some sections and I know we've been talking to staff and we have a

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large large copper wire theft issue in the city and we're working on it but

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please the only thing I'll say is if you see something say something and even if

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if it's a light that's out somewhere,

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please report it through the Pomona Go app.

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So we could continue to track it.

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And that being said, in between the 400 block

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and some of those parking lots in downtown Pomona,

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we need to get them fixed, because we need the lights

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and I know that they've been sent in.

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So I'll say thank you to that.

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I'll say thank you again to Minerva and her family

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and her organization.

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Camila Comedcio de Valle de Pomona

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We're having a great grito and get together as you mentioned my colleague Nora Garcia was able to attend as well

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And we just appreciate her always showing respect to all of the Latin

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American communities that celebrate their independence day and as well as always having an American flag in attendance

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Appreciate that

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I'd like to say thank you to Nasir Akasam Museum for the coffee cup. I wish you well

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I apologize I wasn't able to go to the opening.

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My wife and I celebrated 10 years together

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and she asked me to take her to dinner.

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So, but lastly, speaking again about Hispanic Heritage Month,

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I'd like to invite everybody again

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to Shawn Diamond Plaza in downtown Pomona.

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This Thursday the 17th, we're having

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the first ever, it's called Norte de Cultura event.

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And it'll be Thursday for 5 p.m. to 9 p.m., it's going to be a wonderful concert, some

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band-ons, some different things.

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We're also going to have some full-clothical or the music.

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If you've been there before, you know what it is, and please invite others to come on by

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the D.P.O.A., the 909 market, and also thank you to my colleagues that have committed to

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sponsorship.

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It was a nice video that you guys recorded, and we hope to continue inviting more people

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there.

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So I appreciate that.

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that. Lastly, City Manager, you and I were talking a little bit about this and it sometimes

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through a break, it seems like, well, what's going on and is it always up to date on the

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news? If you can help me relay some of the information, for example, not that the City

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of LA is transitioning or having conversations about their flock cameras. If we can also

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give an update about what it is that we are doing because that wasn't a say we could bring

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something up to the city council but I hear that there's already some work being done

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and it'll eventually travel through so you can give us an update on that.

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Sure, you got me to do that now or during my comments.

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I'd appreciate it now, but...

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Sure.

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That is an active issue that our police oversight commission is looking into and will be forming

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as I understand it as subcommittee to be looking at that.

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There are also some key provisions that were identified through the City of Los Angeles

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that our city attorney is well aware of,

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and we are looking at our contracts

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and initiating any changes that may be needed

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as a result of those specific languages

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that may be problematic for data sharing.

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So, commission is working through it.

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We will have a report back to the council at a later date.

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So I appreciate that very much especially

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because sometimes we, I get it.

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Government is never fast enough,

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but we are working through the process

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and we are having conversations

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and we look forward to what the police commission says

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and those of you that want more information,

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you're welcome to attend that commission meeting,

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but as well as when it comes eventually to our meeting,

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we will be here.

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So continue to let us know.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Councilor Garcia and then Martin and can ask.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Good evening, everyone.

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It's very nice to see you after a summer break.

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I want to echo what my colleague, Victor,

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I just said about the slow pace of government, sometimes being frustrated, frustrating.

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And also, Ditto, what my council member on Tavarro's call said, there is a very large

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illegal dumping problem in the city of Pomona.

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I personally just went through my Pomona Go app request, and I think I have nine requests

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pending.

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So, I would like to also encourage our Pomona residents to please use Pomona Go.

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Please use your six bulky item pickups.

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It really does help, and we really would appreciate it.

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But, aren't you some great news and to the improvements of Pomona?

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The Children's Festival is returning to Kids World Pomona this Saturday. Near are newly renovated water fountain in our newest playground. And if you want to go to the playground earlier, don't forget that the library has story time with Ms. Crystal at three o'clock on Wednesdays. And the improvements in Pomona do continue when I want to acknowledge Mayor Sanneval and Councilmember Priscilla for their contribution to the Washington Park soccer fields.

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so that we could get them leveled and ready for our students.

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And as Washington Park is getting all this love,

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I also want to acknowledge my residents who have reached out to me

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regarding Philadelphia Park.

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I've already spoken to our city manager and told her

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that now that Washington Park is in a good spot.

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We do want to move on to Philadelphia Park

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and my priority is of course those basketball courts

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and the ADA pathways.

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If residents have any questions for me,

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I will be in person at the area commander meeting for district three at Tropical Mexico

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with our Pomona Police Department on the 24th of this month, which is, I believe, a Thursday.

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And if you have any questions or concerns that you want to share with Lieutenant Haggardy,

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I'm going to be sending him an email in the second this meeting is over regarding some speeding

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that I heard about on Grand and San Antonio residents who want more traffic patrols.

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So, please come to our district three area commander meeting on September 24th at Tropical

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Mexico.

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And lastly, I do want to acknowledge that in addition to illegal dumping, the other

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thing Pomona really needs to address is our rental stabilization ordinance.

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It's set to expire in December.

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And this weekend alone, I had three residents reach out to me because they are on the verge

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of losing their housing. There was one elderly, two elderly people, one gentleman, one woman,

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both ill, both in their 70s, and then the last is a single mother that reached out to me because she

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could no longer maintain the rent on the property she rents. So I really want to speak to my council and

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hope that we can reassess the expiration date of the rental stabilization ordinance because if any

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everything right now times are tougher than they were at a year ago, especially with $6

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gas. So, if we could bring that back sometime this year before December, I would truly appreciate

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it. Thank you all for your time and thank you all for being here. I look forward to your comments.

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Thank you, Council Member. Council Member Martin.

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Good evening, everyone. I will try to make my story quick, but it's like pages, so I really have

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to cut it down. It's been a wonderful summer. A lot of work has been done in District 1.

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And I want to thank a lot of you in the audience that came to our community meeting that

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Councilwoman Antweres Cole spoke about. So I'll talk about that right now. We had over

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a hundred visitors, community members, residents and business owners. And it was so positive.

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It was really positive, we gave a lot of information and I recommend all of you to come out to your district meetings in the future because you really get informed.

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We give you a lot of information.

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We had a special guest with our code enforcement officer, Mr. Whitaker and that was great because how many times do you get to speak to your code enforcement officer?

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We also had Betty in planning, the director of planning department.

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We also had ATA with economic development.

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He came out and he, so after our presentation, we went and let each staff member have their

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own time to speak with the residents.

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So we had a little line going on a meeting, so it was wonderful.

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Also, Lieutenant Hagerty and his team, Chief, it was fabulous.

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It was a wonderful evening.

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The first half was all about safety in our community.

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So anyway, I want to thank the

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police department for giving us the space that evening with food.

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and yes so next time please come on out to one of our meetings and I think

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Nora said hers is next so also I want to say congratulations to our mayor for

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his new baby girl we wish you give him a round of applause that's

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more

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beautiful than having a new baby in the home so congratulations on that I have

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four of my own so they're all growing now but I just love children all right so I'm going to go

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on to talk about Love Your Park Day. We had it on August 9th at Ganesha Park you know some of

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the residents have mentioned well why aren't you doing a different park? Well we are doing other

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the parks too but the key is Ganesha Park is 62 acres and it's been neglected for at

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least 10 years. So we're trying to catch up for the 10 years of neglect from the communities

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volunteering times and now it is so beautiful. And I also want to thank the Park Department

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for and public works for their help on that day and the facilities department. They really

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did a great job. We painted beautiful, decorated, brought our

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infencing to trash receptacles that were rusted out to

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planting 15 trees and over 200 plants. We created a new hiking

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trail and I also was blessed to collaborate with Humanity

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Church and they brought in their volunteers and re-planted

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the Butterfly Garden, and so with all that said, we had over 220 volunteers that day.

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So I really want to thank every single one of you that came out and helped that they really

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made a difference.

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00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:02,840
Gary High School Music Department, all their students came out, so in a lot of residents

446
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,780
at District One.

447
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:06,080
So again, thank you so much for that.

448
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:15,320
So with that and seeing the beautiful difference of what a day makes of that was three hours and we did so much work

449
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,240
We are planning

450
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,780
Probably in the winter when it's not so hot, but hopefully not rainy

451
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:30,480
Love your alley day. So and that's going to be for the whole district one and if any other

452
00:37:30,990 --> 00:37:34,500
Council members in the future want to join that day

453
00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:39,500
I'm really looking forward to it and we're going to clean up the alleys of District 1.

454
00:37:39,860 --> 00:37:42,500
They really need it and the residents need to help with it.

455
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,960
So we will have a fun morning on that.

456
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:53,860
Also, I'm really excited that we are planning and digitizing people day on October 10th and

457
00:37:53,860 --> 00:37:58,540
that will be at Kennedy Park and it's going to be a really fun event.

458
00:37:58,780 --> 00:38:00,460
I welcome everybody to come out.

459
00:38:00,540 --> 00:38:02,640
It's from 12 to 6 p.m.

460
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:11,620
We are doing a little library ribbon cutting at Kiwanis Park on September 23rd.

461
00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:12,600
That's around the corner.

462
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,960
It's at 330 and I'm collaborating with the Girl Scouts on it.

463
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,240
So it's one of the Girl Scouts's project of the year.

464
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:27,200
So I'm really proud of her and hopefully all of you can come out and support the Girl Scouts.

465
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,300
Also,

466
00:38:30,380 --> 00:38:48,680
I'm planning a ribbon cutting for the new snack bar in bathrooms at Kennedy Park and it's going to be hopefully, it's not set in stone yet, but September 22nd, but I have to wait for a confirmation from staff that the snack bar is ready.

467
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:58,500
So we have brought the little leagues back to Kennedy Park so it's been vacant there for like around six years.

468
00:38:58,900 --> 00:39:02,000
So like a little baseball ghost town, not anymore.

469
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,920
It's active and it's full of children five days a week.

470
00:39:06,140 --> 00:39:07,480
So I'm really, really thrilled.

471
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:09,920
Okay, I'm almost done.

472
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:16,380
ribbon cutting at Palo Maris Park. I was there supporting Councilwoman Canela's

473
00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:22,020
congratulations and also congratulations Nora Garcia for her ribbon cutting

474
00:39:22,020 --> 00:39:29,180
at Washington Park. I also got to have the honor to meet the new President of

475
00:39:29,180 --> 00:39:36,260
Cal Poly Pomona, Dr. Clignonis. She's amazing and she's full of excitement and I'm

476
00:39:36,260 --> 00:39:41,080
I'm really waiting to see, I'm looking forward to seeing what she can do for the university.

477
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,360
I also was at the bless you.

478
00:39:44,820 --> 00:39:51,080
I also was at the Reben-Kerin at Nuestra Casa Museum, and congratulations again.

479
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,280
It was a beautiful day.

480
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:58,280
It was filled with community members, and looking forward to the success of it.

481
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:05,140
Last but not least, we're talking about the wire theft,

482
00:40:05,140 --> 00:40:14,640
And we're talking about the bicycle, the E by takeover or the street takeovers in our city.

483
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,200
Well, if an LA, they've had it.

484
00:40:18,340 --> 00:40:21,160
They're making ordinances for both, as we speak.

485
00:40:21,380 --> 00:40:26,900
They're making ordinances for the wire theft and they're making an ordinance for the street.

486
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:32,380
I think they already made the ordinance for the smash and grab or as of the street ordinance.

487
00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:36,340
But they're making all these ordinances that are a little bit higher penalty.

488
00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:39,220
So maybe we can slow down this type of crime.

489
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:45,740
So anyway, hopefully I'm really proud of the chief's work and I'm sure you're working

490
00:40:45,740 --> 00:40:47,300
on some good stuff for that.

491
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:51,360
With that said, I'm not going to go on for any more.

492
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,240
It's too long.

493
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:53,880
There's too many pages.

494
00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:57,680
But anyway, thank you again for coming out tonight.

495
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:24,000
Thank you. Just a little context for the public. We did not have a council meeting in the second, third Monday of August, as a lot has happened in the course of the first council meeting in August to today. So so you're getting, you're getting everything that happened over the course of that time for the most part, so typically we break this up into two meetings. So perhaps that's one of the reasons why we're taking a little bit longer this time.

496
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,980
Yeah, no, no, no, not apologize. I'm just trying to give the the audience

497
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,000
Some some context

498
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,160
Vice mayor. I'm sure you've heard it all welcome everyone and thank you for being here tonight

499
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:41,280
And I'm not going to reiterate what they have all said. I just want to say that I'm very grateful to the city

500
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,620
For Palomar's Park

501
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:53,080
The we have a new soccer field for our youth and I'm really glad to see that there was family and children that came out for the cutting ribbon and

502
00:41:54,000 --> 00:42:03,680
I really feel grateful that the students or the children have a safe place to play soccer, not only at Palomar's Park, but also at Washington Park.

503
00:42:04,060 --> 00:42:08,440
So I want to thank the city for always supporting our goals.

504
00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:16,420
Also downtown Pomona, I was there for second Saturday, for those of you who are interested.

505
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:23,820
We are opening up space for building the kid zone, which means that we want more families and

506
00:42:23,820 --> 00:42:29,480
And children to come out to second Saturday to enjoy and have activities for the youth.

507
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,080
So if anybody's interested, please reach out to the downtown Pomona.

508
00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:34,240
Thank you.

509
00:42:35,140 --> 00:42:35,740
Thank you.

510
00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:36,540
Councilor Lester.

511
00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:38,660
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

512
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:39,380
Good evening, everybody.

513
00:42:40,740 --> 00:42:51,320
Many of you know that Pomona Beautiful is a volunteer group that has been, it was kind

514
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,300
the brainchild of the mayor, probably a little over 10 years ago.

515
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:02,240
And we go out every Tuesday morning, and typically we go to different areas of the city,

516
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,100
and we pick up trash, and we weed whack, and sometimes we do some other things.

517
00:43:08,740 --> 00:43:18,760
But last Tuesday, we helped out a property owner who is, she's very limited in her physical abilities

518
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:27,800
basically maintain her yard. And so we are our volunteer group. We all assembled on her property.

519
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:34,600
Not too far from here, a few blocks from here. And we did some pretty significant tree trimming of

520
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:41,960
low hanging branches. We raked up some weeds, picked up a little bit of trash, cut some shrubs away

521
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:48,060
from her house that were causing a problem. And the property looked a lot better.

522
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,860
when we were done. This is something a little bit out of the ordinary that Pomona Beautiful

523
00:43:53,860 --> 00:44:01,640
does. And again, in my time volunteering with Pomona Beautiful, which has been probably

524
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:07,000
close to nine years, typically we're doing, we typically do commercial areas, commercial

525
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:14,100
intersections. And so it's a little bit of a change of pace. We've done this in the past,

526
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:29,900
are we've been able to help clean up the yards of elderly folks who are unable to do it themselves or maybe they're not able to pay somebody to do it, and also folks that are disabled that are unable to do their property.

527
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:33,100
So it's always a good feeling.

528
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:39,800
I know that the, I know that the property owner who has lived on the property for many, many years was very appreciative of what we did.

529
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:51,120
And certainly I mean, it's, she does her best to take pride in her property, but she's very limited in doing all the things that are necessary to keep her property up.

530
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:58,880
So it was, it was one of those, one of those jobs that we looked at it, we were done and we said, looks a lot better now. And so we felt, we felt pretty good about that.

531
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:27,960
That was a little change of pace for Pomona, beautiful last week. For those who want to volunteer every Tuesday morning, we're on Facebook. Just look for the look for the schedule if you want to come out and help us. The other thing I wanted to mention is kind of a follow-up to my colleagues comments about illegal dumping and getting rid of getting rid of your trash. There is a community cleanup this Saturday, and it is at Palamaris Park.

532
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,720
And somebody will correct me if that's not the right location, but I believe that is correct.

533
00:45:32,820 --> 00:45:38,280
From 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. so if you have any large items or a bunch of small items that you want

534
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:44,940
to get rid of that maybe don't fit in your regular carts at home, load up your cars, load up your

535
00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:51,860
trucks, and bring them to Palomaris. Again, between 9 a.m., 3 p.m. this Saturday, September 19th, and you can

536
00:45:51,860 --> 00:45:57,940
get rid of them for free. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Lester. I just really wanted to say

537
00:45:57,940 --> 00:46:06,400
primarily two things because you can definitely feel the frustration that

538
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:12,600
council has with the real social issues that we face in the community as do

539
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:19,300
you and we are obviously very aware of these issues and it's important for

540
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:24,640
them to bring it up. It's also important to hear the beautiful things that are

541
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,340
happening in this community. There's real social contradictions that exist in a community.

542
00:46:29,980 --> 00:46:35,800
But I can say that in this city, there's a tremendous amount of commitment for people to volunteer

543
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:41,280
their time and their energy to help build this community from little league coaches,

544
00:46:42,460 --> 00:46:49,940
to nonprofit organizations like Pomona Beautiful and historic preservation, and you name it.

545
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,360
I would put up our city against any city when it comes to the volunteerism.

546
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:59,300
And it's important, it's important to understand when we're talking about these vices

547
00:47:00,460 --> 00:47:02,780
that most people are doing the right thing.

548
00:47:03,620 --> 00:47:05,060
And there's a few that aren't.

549
00:47:06,260 --> 00:47:11,980
But it's critical that in a healthy democracy that we all step up to the degree that we can

550
00:47:12,980 --> 00:47:14,660
to take ownership of this community.

551
00:47:15,740 --> 00:47:19,000
It includes the business community when they see trash outside their business.

552
00:47:19,740 --> 00:47:21,040
It's hard as it is.

553
00:47:22,140 --> 00:47:23,620
Do the hard work of cleaning it up.

554
00:47:25,260 --> 00:47:29,620
Residents, listen, if I'm living next door to somebody, I shouldn't have to worry about

555
00:47:29,620 --> 00:47:30,120
their yard.

556
00:47:30,260 --> 00:47:31,900
I shouldn't have to worry about their trash.

557
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:38,680
But if this is purely a transactional relationship and the idea that government, I pay you taxes

558
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,480
and I expect you to do everything, I don't believe that's how democracy was intended.

559
00:47:44,420 --> 00:47:50,240
Democracy was intended for us to step up where we can to make a difference and it requires

560
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:55,120
all of us to proceed. Now, we may have very different views of things, but the idea that somehow

561
00:47:55,120 --> 00:48:01,360
government who did not throw that trash there or did not leave that couch there, right? But it's

562
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:07,980
our job to enforce. It's our job to do our job well, but it requires people to step up to make

563
00:48:07,980 --> 00:48:13,120
this the best community that we can. So I want to say that number one. Secondly, I want to say, and one

564
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:21,280
of my colleagues mentioned it already. I had the privilege of July 27th at 1036 am. My wife

565
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:28,520
gave birth to a beautiful, beautiful baby girl in Anika. Yeah, you can, yeah.

566
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:33,720
So, so, unfortunately,

567
00:48:33,860 --> 00:48:37,340
I don't have the privilege of reporting on all the different things that I've been doing over

568
00:48:37,340 --> 00:48:41,360
the last six to seven weeks. She's now seven weeks old, born seven weeks

569
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:48,000
literally today. I've been on paternity leave because as you well can imagine

570
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:54,140
for my wife, this is a tremendous amount of work. We have a six-year-old and so

571
00:48:54,140 --> 00:48:58,260
I'm just helping as much as I can and trying to do the little things but it's

572
00:48:58,260 --> 00:49:02,480
it's it's for those of you who've had children and I'm not saying later in life

573
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,320
you may say the same thing but it's the most beautiful life experience that I

574
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,500
I've ever had, and now that I have two children,

575
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:11,900
it's just a wonderful thing.

576
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,320
And then to be able to walk here,

577
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,620
I should say walk over to the playground,

578
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,840
and I see all those children with their parents,

579
00:49:20,420 --> 00:49:22,800
with their grandparents having a picnic.

580
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,300
There are good things happening here,

581
00:49:25,420 --> 00:49:26,920
but there's a lot more work to be done,

582
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,140
and we need everybody to step up to the degree

583
00:49:29,140 --> 00:49:31,420
that they can in order to continue to make this

584
00:49:31,420 --> 00:49:32,700
that an absolute great place to live.

585
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:33,680
So thank you everyone.

586
00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:36,380
Appreciate you, and for all that you do,

587
00:49:36,380 --> 00:49:42,020
for just the fact that you were here either to give us a piece of your mind or perhaps say something

588
00:49:42,020 --> 00:49:45,840
that you've seen that is going on in the community that's positive. With that, Carla,

589
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:51,260
I'll turn it back over to you. Thank you, Mayor. The next item is city manager communications

590
00:49:51,260 --> 00:49:53,320
and these are reports from the city manager.

591
00:49:55,540 --> 00:49:59,280
Oh, Mayor and Council, two items to report. One is

592
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:04,680
very excited to announce that we have our very first youth accountability board meeting on September

593
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,600
December 28th. We, too, have been very busy during this break and under the leadership

594
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:15,000
of Ryan Painter, we have seated the first board for the Youth Accountability Board, and

595
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:24,880
we'll have, again, have our first meeting September 28th at 6 o'clock, Pell Mars. Very excited

596
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:36,160
for that. Secondly, just wanted to give a quick update on item and clarification for item

597
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:43,480
Council District 5 and in that staff report it mentions any unused remaining 53,000 will

598
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:48,340
be allocated to street improvements and while that is still correct what is intended

599
00:50:48,340 --> 00:50:54,300
there and what it will be used for is work towards the parking lot at Westmont Park and

600
00:50:54,300 --> 00:50:59,920
so that is incorporated into that title of that CIP project although it isn't explicit

601
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:04,600
but we wanted to just go on the record that is the intent of the council member for that

602
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,180
district and that that school of those funds will go.

603
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:13,200
Now that money for that will have to be accrued over several fiscal years to have enough

604
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,300
allocation in there to do the whole improvements but that is the goal there and just want to

605
00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:18,860
make that clarification for that item.

606
00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:19,920
Thank you so much.

607
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:20,580
Thank you.

608
00:51:21,620 --> 00:51:22,340
Thank you.

609
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,720
Dr. Scott.

610
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:24,540
Okay.

611
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,200
The next item, Carla.

612
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,620
The next item is public participation.

613
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,740
At this time the public is invited to address the council concerning any items not on the agenda.

614
00:51:33,740 --> 00:51:36,820
The city does not tolerate disruptive behavior in our meetings.

615
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,480
Individuals may speak only once during public comment.

616
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,520
In order to address the city council, if participating remotely, please raise your hand,

617
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,760
your digital hand now, if you are speaking for public participation.

618
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:52,500
If participating in person, each individual must fill out a speaker card, which is available

619
00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:53,920
in the lobby of the council chambers.

620
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,140
Speaker cards must be completed and turned into the city clerk at this time.

621
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,880
Only those speaker cards turned into the city clerk and those with their digital hands raised

622
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:10,920
will be allowed to address the city council members of the public participating in person will be called first followed by remote participants.

623
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,400
Speakers should state their name and will be allowed to speak once for a maximum of three minutes.

624
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,780
All speakers participating in the meeting must adhere to the city council rules of procedure and decorum.

625
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:32,030
So there are a total of 12 speakers, each speaker will have three minutes to speak.

626
00:52:32,690 --> 00:52:36,930
I will call your name, just a little awareness.

627
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:42,550
There are two empty chairs up here in the front, particularly for those who, if I call

628
00:52:42,550 --> 00:52:46,790
your name and you're like right in the middle, it will be so kind to come up and just take

629
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:47,390
a seat here.

630
00:52:47,790 --> 00:52:52,030
It'll help sort of make the public participation part of this more efficient, okay.

631
00:52:52,030 --> 00:52:55,050
Okay, the first speaker is Camille Hensworth, okay.

632
00:52:55,170 --> 00:52:57,770
I feel please come on up, okay.

633
00:52:58,090 --> 00:53:00,510
This will be the last one that I'll be taking, okay.

634
00:53:02,740 --> 00:53:05,480
And then before we start, let me call a couple more names Camille.

635
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,120
I have Christina Sanchez, and if you're up here near the front already, no worries.

636
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,140
But Christina Sanchez, and then Mary Ellen Wong, I feel please come up as well.

637
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:16,680
Welcome Camille.

638
00:53:17,020 --> 00:53:18,500
Thank you, good evening everybody.

639
00:53:18,700 --> 00:53:23,400
My name is Camille Hensworth, I'm here representing the Office of Assembly Member Michelle Rodriguez.

640
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,820
And we all know how important is screening, cancer screening.

641
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,120
So I'm here to invite you to our woman's health resource fair.

642
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:34,640
It's called pink with a purpose.

643
00:53:35,180 --> 00:53:40,180
It's going to take place on Saturday, October 17, from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m.

644
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,620
I left some of the flyers in the front.

645
00:53:42,820 --> 00:53:45,060
All you have to do is scan the QR code.

646
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:47,320
And then you input all your information.

647
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,100
You will receive a number.

648
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:53,620
or somebody will call you and this is free of charge.

649
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,700
You don't need insurance.

650
00:53:55,500 --> 00:53:56,900
So take advantage of this.

651
00:53:56,940 --> 00:53:58,840
If you know somebody who doesn't have insurance

652
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,140
and needs to do a mammogram,

653
00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:02,420
please go ahead and let them know about

654
00:54:02,420 --> 00:54:04,880
this important screening.

655
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,780
The other thing is, or capital office,

656
00:54:08,340 --> 00:54:09,200
or team of legislative,

657
00:54:10,140 --> 00:54:11,900
I'm sorry, or legislative team,

658
00:54:12,220 --> 00:54:13,640
it's looking for ideas.

659
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,220
So if you know about an issue in your community

660
00:54:18,220 --> 00:54:24,520
and you think that you could be benefited with or you could fix it with a legislation.

661
00:54:25,220 --> 00:54:37,620
You could contact a legislative team, talk with them, and then come up with something that the Assemblymember can carry on the next legislative session.

662
00:54:38,380 --> 00:54:40,380
Sorry. Okay, and that's all. Thank you.

663
00:54:40,380 --> 00:54:41,380
Thank you.

664
00:54:42,180 --> 00:54:42,480
Thank you.

665
00:54:42,540 --> 00:54:46,120
And just take note that she finished with a minute and 36.

666
00:54:46,820 --> 00:54:50,780
If you want to speak the full three minutes, please do so, but you're not required to.

667
00:54:50,940 --> 00:54:51,920
Just want you to know that.

668
00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:52,480
Okay.

669
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,020
I sometimes I wish I could keep the council of three minutes, but they won't have it because

670
00:54:57,020 --> 00:54:58,360
they were elected by the people.

671
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,860
So already, Christina Sanchez, come on up and then Mary Ellen.

672
00:55:03,260 --> 00:55:08,220
And so one seat is opened up and Naomi Chavez, you happen to be out in the middle of the seat

673
00:55:08,220 --> 00:55:25,900
So over there if you just might coming up appreciate it. Welcome. I'm not going to take the full three minutes. Again, my name is Christina Sanchez. I live in district one. I actually live in the community right off of a royal and Glen Eagles, which has one entrance to come in and out of our little community with no alternative routes to get out.

674
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:33,060
We experience high traffic on Fairplex during the mornings and evenings leading to long wait times for it to allow us to turn out

675
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:43,280
Additionally, there is a blind spot caused by a wall on the north side of the Fairplex on Fairplex making it necessary for drivers to inch out in order to see past it in order to turn

676
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:49,180
This situation can become dangerous, especially considering the speed at which cars travel down Fairplex

677
00:55:49,180 --> 00:56:00,960
Um, the traffic is primarily due to commuters headed to the 10 freeway, the 71 and of course all the schools and just it's just a busy street and we only have one option to get in and out of our community.

678
00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:09,920
So I've spoken to a lot of my neighbors and majority of us share these concerns. We even had one neighbor that shared with me that when her children were personally had a drive.

679
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:15,940
She only had them exit right out of the community because she didn't want to risk them going left because of the dangers of it.

680
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,260
So I lived here for more than 10 years.

681
00:56:19,980 --> 00:56:25,900
My city council member encouraged me to come out here and speak to you in the 10 plus years I've lived here.

682
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:31,360
I've spoken to two city council members even spoke to the city as attorneys. I think I'm one my second person that I've spoken to.

683
00:56:32,660 --> 00:56:40,080
Nothing's ever happened. Nothing's ever changed. You know, we'll be great. We can get a street light, but just something to address this area because we have no other options.

684
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:45,300
We don't have alternatives to get out of our community, and it's just a busy street, which we can't change.

685
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:52,140
So I would just really greatly appreciate if this matter can be addressed for our community before we

686
00:56:52,140 --> 00:56:56,380
really shouldn't have to wait for a bad accident in order to address the dangers of it.

687
00:56:56,780 --> 00:57:00,320
I personally have been in accident. That's why I started this because my car was told,

688
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,280
because I had to inch out a little bit in order to see it. And a car was just going too fast,

689
00:57:04,460 --> 00:57:09,160
and it could not have been avoided. And one month we think we had three accidents total.

690
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:13,000
it's been a while, but again, we shouldn't have to wait until we have numerous accidents

691
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,900
before this is addressed. So that's it. Thank you.

692
00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:21,440
Thank you. I was just going to say that in the case that she's been here before to bring

693
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:26,460
up this issue, and I'm not suggesting that somehow we're just going to do it, but it may

694
00:57:26,460 --> 00:57:31,700
be helpful for the council to know what would be needed to mitigate something like that.

695
00:57:31,780 --> 00:57:37,880
What's the cost of it? So we just have an idea. Are we talking of $1 million? And it may

696
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:54,880
It may not be even feasible for a street light to go there for whatever state laws that are required but I think it may be helpful so that we're having a very transparent and honest conversation with you about what can and can't be done obviously to try to address the issues that you're facing. Okay, all right. Thank you.

697
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:59,380
Mary Ellen Long, Naomi Chavez, and then Carlos Guaitha.

698
00:57:59,540 --> 00:58:01,400
You're close, Carlos, so I think you're okay.

699
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:02,960
What, welcome, Ms. Long.

700
00:58:03,380 --> 00:58:04,860
Thank you, thank you for having me.

701
00:58:06,500 --> 00:58:09,460
I don't reside in Pomona, I'm a neighbor.

702
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,060
I drive through Pomona to go back and forth to work.

703
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,220
I've had to call once a month for probably two years now

704
00:58:18,220 --> 00:58:22,260
for the V-Red gas station on the corner of Arrow Highway

705
00:58:22,260 --> 00:58:30,400
and Gary I find it kind of funny you know she's talking about trash in the

706
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,140
street and volunteering to pick up trash and everybody's driving by this

707
00:58:35,140 --> 00:58:43,580
horrific blight on the city. I start my day out looking at that going to work I

708
00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:50,580
end my day looking at it coming home. They took out the tanks the gas tanks

709
00:58:50,580 --> 00:59:03,240
December 30th. That's eight months ago. School has started. You've got a huge five foot deep hole. This is right next to the sidewalk. This is the sidewalk. Right here.

710
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:10,520
I shouldn't have to come. Can I interrupt you? Sure. Okay. Councilor.

711
00:59:11,500 --> 00:59:40,500
This is the property that came up that feels the prompt we're going to do mine just using your language to give her an update about what's happening just because it's I want you to know that it's coming it's going to it's not coming fast enough for us I understand but what when you're talking about private property which is sacred in this country you can't just take somebody's property as much as you try what the council is going to tell you I feel like sir but I'm not here to differ

712
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:44,860
with you. Okay. I agree. Trust me. We'd love to be able to go after every property

713
00:59:44,860 --> 00:59:50,180
owner getting done or two. No, it is. But I just want to give you the item that's coming

714
00:59:50,180 --> 00:59:56,160
before us. Yeah, I've tried to call. Yeah. Good. Counselor. Mayor, I'd be happy to give a

715
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,900
I pause it and you'll have it rest your time as long as I just want you to know

716
00:59:58,900 --> 00:59:59,960
Okay, yeah, I pause it

717
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:28,780
Yeah, the city is well aware of this property, and we've been working proactively with our code enforcement staff. We are going to come before you at the very first meeting of October. We've already provided notices to initiate a receivership, but that must be approved by the city council. So you will receive an open and public report will be on your city council agenda for you to take action at your first meeting in October. And can you explain what receivership is? Yeah, receivership action. We have various code enforcement tools in our basket that I like to say we have a basket with these various tools.

718
01:00:28,780 --> 01:00:32,940
The receivership is the most aggressive form of enforcement.

719
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,280
It is only used when we finally reach a point where we know that the property owner has

720
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:37,900
been irresponsible.

721
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,400
And so we go to a judge and we tell the judge that the property owner either doesn't have

722
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:47,940
the resources or doesn't care has completely ignored all of our other, we're always very careful

723
01:00:47,940 --> 01:00:51,720
to use all of our other tools before we get to the receivership step, but we have reached

724
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:52,200
that point.

725
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,180
So we will be asking you to approve that.

726
01:00:54,180 --> 01:00:59,320
Yeah, you have and I just wanted you to at least hear that but continue your comments

727
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,360
Okay, and you have still a minute 57 seconds again, just wanted to do that

728
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,600
Perhaps I could await it at the end. That's what they keep telling me on the phone

729
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:11,540
Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, but but but this is happening come the first meeting. I told we'll continue this long

730
01:01:12,020 --> 01:01:17,060
I'm a little bit upset because when the tanks were pulled down there was no fence put up

731
01:01:17,060 --> 01:01:24,020
I had to call a week later and tell you guys hey, where's the fence some little kids gonna wander in

732
01:01:24,020 --> 01:01:25,960
and some handicap person's gonna follow in.

733
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,260
Another thing of a whole this size

734
01:01:29,790 --> 01:01:32,040
should have shoring next to the sidewalk.

735
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:33,680
This is over five feet deep.

736
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:35,940
You know, I'm not an engineer.

737
01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:37,900
I used to work for a building in safety

738
01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:40,600
under Simon Schoo.

739
01:01:41,020 --> 01:01:42,580
He was wonderful building official.

740
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,920
It shouldn't take three years to get receivership.

741
01:01:46,540 --> 01:01:49,040
It seems to me like everybody's just dragging their feet,

742
01:01:49,180 --> 01:01:50,100
dragging their feet, looking,

743
01:01:50,420 --> 01:01:52,860
hey, you've done a great job planning trees up Gary.

744
01:01:52,860 --> 01:01:57,440
I really have to give it to you guys. You've cleaned up the city. It looks great.

745
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:05,420
Honestly, lots of trees up Gary. I drove down mission. I didn't see the homeless situation

746
01:02:05,420 --> 01:02:10,940
like I did a few years ago. You guys are doing a great job. But let's not drop the ball here.

747
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:21,600
It's El Niño. Okay. The rain is coming. This is right next to Errol Highway. Right next to the street.

748
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:35,520
the rain is going to fill it in. Other cities are preparing for El Niño. But you guys, I don't see anything happening here. I have to call and say, hey, the wind blew down the fence. Can somebody go pick it up?

749
01:02:36,540 --> 01:02:45,160
How many police officers drove by? How many people that worked for the city drove by? Can't they come in here and say, hey, somebody go pick up the fence? Why do I have to do it?

750
01:02:45,620 --> 01:02:53,400
I should get paid to babysit the city, this V-red, you know, I'm tired of it, I'm sorry.

751
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,740
To me, there's no excuse for it.

752
01:02:55,900 --> 01:03:00,940
Three years, four years, I've got all the documentation, I requested the public, there's

753
01:03:00,940 --> 01:03:03,560
more pictures in here than answers to my questions.

754
01:03:04,940 --> 01:03:08,000
I only had a few questions, they couldn't even answer them.

755
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,800
So yeah, I'm upset, I got two seconds left, my question's worth.

756
01:03:11,940 --> 01:03:12,500
Your time's up.

757
01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:13,700
Sorry, thank you.

758
01:03:13,700 --> 01:03:15,180
Ms. Chavez, Europe, thank you,

759
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,520
and then Carlos Goytea, and then Christina Cari-Sosa.

760
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,360
Welcome, Ms. Chavez. You have three minutes.

761
01:03:31,770 --> 01:03:33,170
Good evening, Mayor, City Council,

762
01:03:33,930 --> 01:03:41,190
Gallery Online, Gallery and Present. This is ancestral and unceded territory of the Tungva,

763
01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:50,410
the Geberlino and Serrano nations and home today over 47400 members of the Alonio

764
01:03:50,410 --> 01:03:51,950
Mount Comment Resolution Tribe.

765
01:03:52,890 --> 01:03:56,810
I name it that because the land acknowledgment without accountability is just words.

766
01:03:57,050 --> 01:03:59,190
Tonight I'm asking this council for accountability.

767
01:03:59,810 --> 01:04:03,390
This is a cold stroll, mathematical cipher, and the math is not mapping.

768
01:04:03,390 --> 01:04:30,630
Chief Ellis Department is requesting $87 million next year in the fiscal budget, 47.8% of the city's entire general fund, the City Council is proposing to spend $181.9 million against only $170.5 million in actual revenue, that's an $11.4 million structural deficit covered by the draining city reserves from $58.1 million down to $46.7 million.

769
01:04:30,630 --> 01:04:39,010
In a single year, this is not a budget, this is an act of deficit spending, intermingling of funds, general fund dollars to paper, and

770
01:04:39,010 --> 01:04:43,710
it violates the basic gap standards, the accounting rules that the city is bound to follow.

771
01:04:44,130 --> 01:04:51,190
Cameron LPR costs it's buried in site subscription contract accounts with no standalone light item.

772
01:04:51,750 --> 01:04:55,430
Anyone outside this department cannot audit.

773
01:04:55,430 --> 01:05:02,270
Each flight camera is the least hardware never paid off, and I am demanding a standalone audit line item published and

774
01:05:02,270 --> 01:05:10,770
no exceptions. The police department relies heavily on an ecosystem of AI platforms where are those items as well.

775
01:05:11,350 --> 01:05:17,210
Second, one, chief could not hold a unilateral purchasing power over an entire surveillance network.

776
01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:21,230
Six drones that require a city council ordinance and an annual vote public meeting.

777
01:05:21,230 --> 01:05:35,490
80 flag cameras running continuously require none of that approved entirely by the chief alone, exercising division commander authority through the lexical policies with no vote, no oversight and no accountability to this body.

778
01:05:35,690 --> 01:05:46,630
I am demanding this council extend the same ordinance and annual vote requirement to the flock camera network immediately, not the next budget cycle and place each camera with high visibility reflective colors.

779
01:05:46,630 --> 01:05:48,730
Third, this isn't a hypothetical.

780
01:05:48,930 --> 01:05:55,990
Pomona PD runs the axon-fufus-fusing live audio license plate data in 9-1-1-1, causing to one hub.

781
01:05:56,470 --> 01:06:00,090
A system DHS can access without notice permission.

782
01:06:00,610 --> 01:06:06,670
This June, Cal Matters published an audit, logs providing 7-California police departments violated Senate Bill 34.

783
01:06:07,290 --> 01:06:12,450
They love any of this exact data sharing with federal agencies over 100 times a month.

784
01:06:12,450 --> 01:06:18,410
Six agencies right here in Ellie County alone and on September 8th at this very police oversight commission meeting

785
01:06:18,410 --> 01:06:24,270
Chief Ellis was out sick the acting chief confirmed on record that there's an active open case involving

786
01:06:24,270 --> 01:06:31,870
Pomona PD officer providing DHS with information on the resident. That is not a hypothetical risk. This already happened here in Pomona

787
01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:37,070
Your time's up. Your time's up. I'll Carlos go with you. I'm sorry

788
01:06:37,890 --> 01:06:39,810
That'll that'll be my final warning

789
01:06:39,810 --> 01:06:43,390
I mean, not in this council

790
01:06:43,390 --> 01:06:43,890
chambers, no.

791
01:06:44,270 --> 01:06:45,350
You can do this.

792
01:06:45,590 --> 01:06:46,150
You can do this.

793
01:06:46,210 --> 01:06:46,370
Okay.

794
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:47,270
Just see, you know.

795
01:06:48,010 --> 01:06:48,150
Okay.

796
01:06:48,730 --> 01:06:49,570
I'm trying to be hard on you.

797
01:06:50,530 --> 01:06:50,890
Thank you.

798
01:06:50,910 --> 01:06:51,710
You're welcome, sir.

799
01:06:52,030 --> 01:06:53,050
You have three minutes.

800
01:06:55,070 --> 01:06:55,870
Thank you, Mayor.

801
01:06:55,990 --> 01:06:56,950
Good evening.

802
01:06:57,190 --> 01:07:00,150
City Council, staff, members of the

803
01:07:00,150 --> 01:07:00,570
community.

804
01:07:01,270 --> 01:07:03,390
I'm here presenting in behalf of the

805
01:07:03,390 --> 01:07:05,850
organization, Ryzen Color, who did

806
01:07:05,850 --> 01:07:07,290
the beautiful mural at Washington

807
01:07:07,290 --> 01:07:08,790
Park around the senior center.

808
01:07:08,790 --> 01:07:15,210
there. Beautiful. If you haven't seen it, go check it out. It's a very calm. It's a complement

809
01:07:15,210 --> 01:07:20,970
to the park there. Once again, my name is Carlos Goethea. I'm here to share our vision

810
01:07:21,570 --> 01:07:27,050
for an upcoming Indigenous People's Day celebration that Council Member Deborah Martin shared

811
01:07:27,050 --> 01:07:32,630
about in her Council Member comments that will bring together Indigenous relatives, families,

812
01:07:32,890 --> 01:07:38,150
youth, community members, local artists, and community-based organizations. This event is

813
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:43,330
about more than celebrating Indigenous culture. It is about creating a safe and welcoming

814
01:07:43,330 --> 01:07:49,890
space for community connection, education, healing, and access to resources. Our celebration

815
01:07:49,890 --> 01:07:57,350
will include Indigenous cultural presentations, Danza, Music, Art, Activities, Life Painting,

816
01:07:57,910 --> 01:08:03,390
Youth and Family Activities, and Community Resource Tables. We will also create opportunities

817
01:08:03,390 --> 01:08:08,230
for local organizations to connect directly with residents and share resources and services.

818
01:08:09,010 --> 01:08:15,030
A major focus of this event is our youth and families. We want young people to have an

819
01:08:15,030 --> 01:08:21,450
opportunity to learn about indigenous culture and history, express themselves through art and

820
01:08:21,450 --> 01:08:28,230
creativity, and build positive relationships with community, mentors, artists, and cultural leaders.

821
01:08:28,230 --> 01:08:34,310
We are requesting support from the city to help make this community celebration possible.

822
01:08:34,690 --> 01:08:40,430
Funding would help support event, supplies, cultural programming,

823
01:08:40,750 --> 01:08:46,590
artises, and performers, youth activities, outreach, and other event related causes.

824
01:08:48,150 --> 01:08:54,110
With the city's support, we can create a meaningful event that is accessible to the community and

825
01:08:54,110 --> 01:08:57,670
centered around culture, connection, and community wellness.

826
01:08:58,230 --> 01:09:05,210
We believe investing in this event is an investment in our community, especially our youth,

827
01:09:05,570 --> 01:09:11,550
and an opportunity for the city to support indigenous visibility, cultural education,

828
01:09:12,070 --> 01:09:14,670
local artisers, and community connection.

829
01:09:15,230 --> 01:09:20,170
We would be honored to partner with the city and bringing this celebration to life.

830
01:09:20,170 --> 01:09:26,550
Thank you for your time, consideration, and continued support for our community.

831
01:09:27,050 --> 01:09:27,430
Thank you.

832
01:09:27,710 --> 01:09:27,930
Thank you.

833
01:09:28,190 --> 01:09:28,270
Thank you.

834
01:09:28,670 --> 01:09:28,890
Thank you.

835
01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:32,170
Cristina Carisosa, if you'll please come on up.

836
01:09:32,410 --> 01:09:33,010
I got some pliers.

837
01:09:33,610 --> 01:09:33,970
Yeah, please.

838
01:09:34,610 --> 01:09:37,590
And then Arturo Jimenez, I did see you here earlier.

839
01:09:39,010 --> 01:09:46,250
And then Frida Sanchez, so there's a share up here if you'd like to just Frida if you're

840
01:09:46,250 --> 01:09:47,170
in the back there.

841
01:09:47,390 --> 01:09:47,750
Thank you.

842
01:09:49,710 --> 01:09:51,110
Welcome, Ms. Carissa.

843
01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:52,190
Good evening.

844
01:09:53,230 --> 01:09:57,250
Thank you for the opportunity to talk to you once more.

845
01:09:58,590 --> 01:10:01,270
We put one of these in your places.

846
01:10:03,670 --> 01:10:06,890
After two years of working hard, small group of people

847
01:10:07,970 --> 01:10:12,850
and really work hard, we finally were able to open our house

848
01:10:12,850 --> 01:10:17,350
Nuestra Casa, which is a museum of culture and history.

849
01:10:18,230 --> 01:10:21,310
And we opened it on the 22nd of this month.

850
01:10:21,790 --> 01:10:23,710
Over 150 people attended.

851
01:10:24,430 --> 01:10:26,510
And it was a very, very hot day.

852
01:10:26,750 --> 01:10:29,890
It wasn't, it wasn't, it was hot, but people were there.

853
01:10:30,670 --> 01:10:33,970
And I'm inviting you and inviting to this stuff.

854
01:10:34,430 --> 01:10:36,930
I'm inviting the vision of the city of Pomona

855
01:10:37,270 --> 01:10:39,070
to come and visit us.

856
01:10:39,370 --> 01:10:41,170
We're just across from you, okay?

857
01:10:41,170 --> 01:10:48,690
from here next to the UPS and there's a little restaurant, I can't remember the name,

858
01:10:48,870 --> 01:10:57,850
separately restaurant, the food is very good by the way. This museum is truly a grassroots

859
01:10:59,130 --> 01:11:10,450
organization. We serve from nothing and thank you for the support that you gave us, initially you

860
01:11:10,450 --> 01:11:14,890
find a housing for the museum, because we had nothing, zero.

861
01:11:16,950 --> 01:11:24,710
And by miracle, miracles, we have a place, and our first exhibit, it was Angela's idea.

862
01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:32,790
Since this country is celebrating 250 years of independence, she said, well, yes, but what

863
01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:35,010
happened with a lot of us?

864
01:11:35,530 --> 01:11:37,690
What happened during those 250 years?

865
01:11:37,690 --> 01:11:46,170
So, what we have is an exhibit of what the Latino Chicano community, whatever way you want

866
01:11:46,170 --> 01:11:51,050
to name it, what this community has done over the 250 years, okay?

867
01:11:51,570 --> 01:11:56,410
So please come and visit us, staff, come and have your lunch there.

868
01:11:57,070 --> 01:12:03,870
We open for this week because we rotate, we don't have paid staff, sorry, but my throat,

869
01:12:06,010 --> 01:12:14,210
but for this week and I just I just want to welcome everyone and thank you

870
01:12:14,210 --> 01:12:16,370
just to state your name because you've got to make sure there will be a

871
01:12:16,370 --> 01:12:20,890
part of the record that I have a card for you Angel. I'm sorry. Angela Sambrano

872
01:12:20,890 --> 01:12:25,390
yeah all right so I just want to I'm a member of the board and I'd like to

873
01:12:25,390 --> 01:12:31,170
invite everyone this is a family a community based history and culture and we

874
01:12:31,170 --> 01:12:36,210
We want to highlight the contributions that the Latino community has made to the city of

875
01:12:36,210 --> 01:12:44,790
Pomona for over 200 years, way before the United States became a country, right, the independence

876
01:12:44,790 --> 01:12:45,770
of the United States.

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01:12:46,250 --> 01:12:48,930
So thank you and hope to see you.

878
01:12:49,270 --> 01:12:49,930
Thank you so much.

879
01:12:50,050 --> 01:12:50,470
Thank you so much.

880
01:12:50,710 --> 01:12:50,890
Very good.

881
01:12:51,150 --> 01:12:56,870
Arthony Menes, please come on up and then free to Sanchez, you're up next and then Laura Estel.

882
01:12:56,870 --> 01:13:03,630
If you're sitting way in the back and there's a seat available right here for you in the front, okay?

883
01:13:05,050 --> 01:13:06,030
Mr. Remedies

884
01:13:08,410 --> 01:13:10,110
You have three minutes sir.

885
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,940
I win as notches. Good evening

886
01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:22,640
Mayor Sandoval and distinguished members of the Pomona City Council. My name is Arturo Jimenez, and I'm a proud

887
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:27,600
Pomona resident the founder and owner of Laguna Technical College and downtown Pomona, and

888
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:32,140
And I'm speaking this evening slowly on my personal capacity.

889
01:13:33,460 --> 01:13:38,120
First, I would like to thank Council Member Victor Preciado for his desire to advance

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01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,420
ideas that can benefit the city of Pomona and his residents.

891
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:47,160
His interest in strengthening the city's capacity for governmental and intergovernmental affairs

892
01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:51,240
is timely, practical and worthy of serious consideration.

893
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:57,080
For nearly 25 years, Laguna Technical College has worked in downtown Pomona and throughout

894
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:02,720
the broader region to help people build occupational skills, prepare for employment, and pursue meaningful

895
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:08,380
career advancement. Through that work, I have seen firsthand the strong workforce and economic

896
01:14:08,380 --> 01:14:15,160
development results require committed partnerships among employers, education institutions,

897
01:14:16,020 --> 01:14:22,200
public agencies, nonprofit organizations, and community leaders. In my service as a Pomona Unified

898
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,340
by school district trustee.

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01:14:24,060 --> 01:14:26,000
I have also witnessed up close the benefits

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01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,700
of having a cabinet level professional focused

901
01:14:29,180 --> 01:14:31,660
on governmental and intergovernmental affairs.

902
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,340
That capacity helps an organization develop

903
01:14:34,340 --> 01:14:38,420
productive relationships with elected representatives

904
01:14:38,420 --> 01:14:40,740
and public agencies, monitor legislation

905
01:14:40,740 --> 01:14:43,660
and funding opportunities, communicate priorities,

906
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,720
effective, effectively coordinate partnerships,

907
01:14:48,980 --> 01:14:50,820
and position itself to pursue opportunities

908
01:14:50,820 --> 01:14:57,960
benefit the community. Pomona deserves that the same kind of strategic capacity our city must

909
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,720
compete for grants resources.

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01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,160
Engage regional county, state, and federal partners respond to changing laws and regulations

911
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:10,540
and advocate consistently for priorities such as public safety, housing, infrastructure,

912
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:16,360
parks, economic development, workforce development, and quality of life. I respectfully encourage

913
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:21,300
the mayor and the city council to ask the city manager to evaluate Pomona's current governmental

914
01:15:21,300 --> 01:15:27,200
relations legislative advocacy, grant support, and intergovernmental affairs capacity and to bring

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01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:33,220
Moving forward, practical and fiscal responsible options for strengthening the net.

916
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:38,700
This is not about creating a title for its own sake, nor is it about any one person.

917
01:15:38,980 --> 01:15:44,620
It is about building a durable city capacity that will help Pomona compete for resources,

918
01:15:45,140 --> 01:15:50,400
protect its interests, strengthen partnerships, and deliver better results for the people we serve.

919
01:15:50,940 --> 01:15:55,260
Thank you, Councilmember Perciado for your leadership and concern for Pomona's future.

920
01:15:55,260 --> 01:15:57,380
and thank you, Mayor and City Council members,

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,080
for your service to our community.

922
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:00,140
Thank you.

923
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:01,480
Free to Sanchez.

924
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,740
If you please come on up and then Laura Estil.

925
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,360
If you please come on up, there's a seat in the front.

926
01:16:06,620 --> 01:16:07,840
And then, Trina Armstrong.

927
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,500
If you're here, Trina, particularly if you're sitting in the back.

928
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:14,740
If you have come to the front, appreciate it.

929
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:17,200
Welcome, Miss Sanchez.

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01:16:17,540 --> 01:16:17,620
Okay.

931
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,720
Good evening, Council people and Mr. Mayor.

932
01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:22,560
Thank you for your continued dedication

933
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:24,640
and decisions you make for the city.

934
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:26,700
My name is Frida Sanchez.

935
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:28,900
I've lived in Pomona for most of my life.

936
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,460
I know it was stated that we were to address

937
01:16:31,460 --> 01:16:33,060
our concerns regarding flock cameras

938
01:16:33,060 --> 01:16:34,440
to the police oversight commission,

939
01:16:34,440 --> 01:16:36,660
but I wanted to directly address you

940
01:16:36,660 --> 01:16:38,100
as the decision was made by you.

941
01:16:39,140 --> 01:16:41,660
So I'll be using my three minutes to address that concern.

942
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,800
I'm here today to express my strong disappointment

943
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,780
in the city for allowing this to happen,

944
01:16:48,620 --> 01:16:50,340
and for failing to protect us

945
01:16:50,340 --> 01:16:51,720
and our constitutional protections

946
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:52,680
under the Fourth Amendment.

947
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:59,600
The 4th Amendment protects us from unreasonable searches and seizures, including continued surveillance by law enforcement without a warrant.

948
01:17:01,100 --> 01:17:10,440
And the Supreme Court earlier this year decided that it's illegal to protect or to monitor someone's digital location for an extended period of time if there's no warrant.

949
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:19,400
I'm aware that the flock cameras were approved in a 7 to 0 vote in a previous meeting, but I'm confused as to what the process was to include community in that decision making.

950
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:31,200
I'm unsure how the community was involved as to where to implement them, how the like oversight was going to be reviewed and it's really disappointing that you're only thinking about that after the fact.

951
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:40,140
Float cameras automatically log everything captured in their frame and use artificial intelligence to track every single movement that's done in its frame.

952
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:45,240
So someone can be tracked from Pomona to San Francisco all the way across the country.

953
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,260
and it'll recognize someone's facial features.

954
01:17:48,780 --> 01:17:51,240
It'll recognize their movement, their gate, how they walk,

955
01:17:51,660 --> 01:17:52,340
what they're wearing.

956
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,700
It tracks everything about anyone that's stepped into its frame

957
01:17:55,700 --> 01:17:57,260
and it uses artificial intelligence

958
01:17:57,260 --> 01:17:59,480
to track them along wherever they're positioned.

959
01:18:00,220 --> 01:18:01,600
I recently moved back to Pomona

960
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,260
after living out of state for a couple years

961
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,340
and I cannot express the disappointment.

962
01:18:05,780 --> 01:18:07,820
I felt when I took my dog out to walk

963
01:18:07,820 --> 01:18:09,740
and I saw three different flock cameras

964
01:18:09,740 --> 01:18:10,640
within a mile radius.

965
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,660
I know that many people justify the use of flock cameras,

966
01:18:14,660 --> 01:18:25,440
I was saying like quoting safety concerns in one order, but when a robot is given, the permissions that the Supreme Court has explicitly said are illegal for police officers to do.

967
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:35,340
It's only a matter of time before we just, we allow robots to do what is not allowed under the Constitution, because it's not a law enforcement officer.

968
01:18:35,340 --> 01:18:42,640
I frequently walk on White Avenue right by Bay Har Elementary in the mornings and I always

969
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,100
see a police cruiser and I always wonder why is there a police cruiser there if there's

970
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:50,200
a flock camera across the street? If the flock cameras there for law and order, why is the

971
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:50,600
cop there?

972
01:18:53,420 --> 01:18:57,980
I have 20 seconds left, so in my final remarks, I implore those of you that are

973
01:18:57,980 --> 01:19:02,280
running in any upcoming elections to take a stance with regards to the mass surveillance

974
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:06,420
being conducted in the city of Pomona. We don't need to spy on our neighbors. Thank you.

975
01:19:06,420 --> 01:19:06,740
Thank you.

976
01:19:07,420 --> 01:19:08,580
I'll already eat all the rest of it.

977
01:19:08,700 --> 01:19:09,280
I feel please come on up.

978
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:10,880
And then, Trina Armstrong.

979
01:19:11,900 --> 01:19:13,480
And then maybe,

980
01:19:17,140 --> 01:19:17,660
oh yeah, I'm sorry.

981
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:18,380
It's guest from Arizona.

982
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:19,260
You're right in the front.

983
01:19:19,380 --> 01:19:20,080
I said you don't need to move.

984
01:19:21,260 --> 01:19:22,220
Welcome, Miss Estell.

985
01:19:23,220 --> 01:19:23,380
Hi.

986
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:25,040
Good evening, Council.

987
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,560
Staff and fellow residents.

988
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,520
My name is Laura Spidal Estell.

989
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,940
And I'm here to speak about the moment.

990
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,180
Pomona's street venue ordinance.

991
01:19:35,740 --> 01:19:36,980
I want to be clear.

992
01:19:36,980 --> 01:19:47,460
We support anyone trying to feed their family, vendors and residents, restaurants alike, but everyone should be held to the same standards.

993
01:19:48,440 --> 01:19:53,120
We support regulated vending and not unregulated competition.

994
01:19:54,140 --> 01:20:05,040
Pomona sidewalk vending regulations were created to allow vending while protecting public health, food safety, and proper permits.

995
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:09,440
Public Safety with AD, AACS, and

996
01:20:09,440 --> 01:20:12,340
Fire Preventing Fire Hazards, and

997
01:20:12,340 --> 01:20:15,640
Fair Competition, Licenses, Insurance,

998
01:20:15,980 --> 01:20:19,860
Taxes, Brick-and-Mortar Restaurants, Follow-Strict Rules,

999
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,640
Business Licenses, Insurance, Parades, Access,

1000
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:29,980
Rent, and Health Inspections, Health Permits, and Health

1001
01:20:29,980 --> 01:20:30,760
Inspections.

1002
01:20:31,180 --> 01:20:33,600
While vendors operate without these requirements,

1003
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:44,520
It creates unregulated competition that businesses that harms businesses who are doing things the right way.

1004
01:20:44,820 --> 01:20:49,480
We support regulated bending, not unregulated bending.

1005
01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:54,540
If the ordinance feels too tough, the answer isn't weakening.

1006
01:20:55,260 --> 01:21:00,120
The answer is outreach, education, and helping vendors comply.

1007
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:05,340
The solution is not lowering the standards or enforcement.

1008
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:12,360
I'm asking the council to maintain the strong standards and enforcement, protect our

1009
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:17,720
brick and mortar corridors, expand outreach to help vendors comply.

1010
01:21:18,780 --> 01:21:26,340
Without lowering standards, ensure fairness, same rules, same responsibilities, same protections,

1011
01:21:26,340 --> 01:21:36,960
continue supporting the system where everyone plays by the same rules while protecting health, public health, safety, and fair competition.

1012
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:45,060
Pomona can support vendors and protect restaurants, but only if everyone plays by the same rules.

1013
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:46,940
Thank you.

1014
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:47,760
Thank you very much.

1015
01:21:48,060 --> 01:21:49,420
Thank you.

1016
01:21:49,420 --> 01:21:50,600
Treat on strong

1017
01:21:52,940 --> 01:21:54,140
welcome

1018
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,140
So I'm a delegate for the green party of California

1019
01:22:00,140 --> 01:22:03,640
I'm also a founder of an organization called people over profit now

1020
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:10,780
And I initially came here to talk about how this city council has chosen to criminalize unhoused people with a program called heart

1021
01:22:10,780 --> 01:22:14,360
Where you would throw away their belongings while simultaneously allowing

1022
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:20,820
Signs to go up saying for them to not panhandle. I call that in that is so extremely inhumane

1023
01:22:20,820 --> 01:22:24,320
to look at a group of people who are the most vulnerable in our society and you would

1024
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,940
say you can't panhandle but also we're going to send the police and city council workers

1025
01:22:28,940 --> 01:22:30,620
to throw away your belongings.

1026
01:22:31,020 --> 01:22:35,980
I initially came for that but in honor of the disgusting things that are said by some

1027
01:22:35,980 --> 01:22:38,040
of you I'm going to change what I came here for.

1028
01:22:38,300 --> 01:22:40,260
First, police don't prevent crime.

1029
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:46,440
If so many studies that prove that fact, police throw people into a system that profits off

1030
01:22:46,440 --> 01:22:47,140
of free labor.

1031
01:22:47,140 --> 01:22:53,320
The same system is used for profiting off of trafficking or black and brown folks and

1032
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,560
inside of immigration detention facilities.

1033
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,460
What does help is resources, access to resources.

1034
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:05,560
Stop wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars on surveillance tech used by ICE and use it

1035
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,440
for cleaning up the streets you say the taxpayer needs to do.

1036
01:23:08,860 --> 01:23:10,420
I thought that's what you was paid to do.

1037
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,340
What are we talking about here?

1038
01:23:13,660 --> 01:23:16,260
When you're talking about criminalizing children right in on bites.

1039
01:23:16,260 --> 01:23:21,220
If you're afraid of children just say that, why don't you allocate some of that surveillance

1040
01:23:21,220 --> 01:23:24,300
tech money hundreds of thousands of dollars to the children riding bikes?

1041
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,220
Maybe then they can start coloring inside of the box since that's what you want them

1042
01:23:28,220 --> 01:23:28,500
to do.

1043
01:23:29,820 --> 01:23:35,040
We're talking about hope and using respectability politics against again a vulnerable population

1044
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:39,580
because you deem them ask unworthy because they're doing a line of work that you disagree

1045
01:23:39,580 --> 01:23:39,960
with.

1046
01:23:41,820 --> 01:23:42,720
That's a disgrace.

1047
01:23:43,220 --> 01:23:46,980
And what you guys are doing, it shows a complete lack of empathy for the amount of people

1048
01:23:46,980 --> 01:23:47,820
that you would respect.

1049
01:23:48,460 --> 01:23:52,140
Everything you guys are talking about is investors, businesses, that's profit, that's

1050
01:23:52,140 --> 01:23:52,580
capital.

1051
01:23:52,940 --> 01:23:57,100
And it seems to me that you care more about capital than you do about the people, which

1052
01:23:57,100 --> 01:24:00,520
is why you would invest more into surveillance technology than you would into the actual

1053
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,020
people that are being trafficked by ICE.

1054
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:08,760
I see in a video of someone getting detained right here outside of City Council and you guys

1055
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:12,960
are just sitting here pretending like the surveillance tech is something that we can just normalize.

1056
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:13,440
It's not.

1057
01:24:13,580 --> 01:24:15,020
It's being weaponized against the people.

1058
01:24:15,020 --> 01:24:17,240
so as someone just spoke about constitutional rights.

1059
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:23,160
Lastly, this is a disgusting room to criminalize homelessness,

1060
01:24:23,380 --> 01:24:26,220
criminalize children, open your arms to corporations and

1061
01:24:26,220 --> 01:24:30,700
investors and to profit, to look down on sex workers to care more about what your city looks like

1062
01:24:30,700 --> 01:24:32,400
than about the people affected by it.

1063
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:38,480
If the city can't afford rent caps or clean the streets,

1064
01:24:38,740 --> 01:24:42,420
or to help the unhoused, then maybe you should remove some of your funding for

1065
01:24:42,420 --> 01:24:47,240
surveillance, technology, and stop infringing on constitutional rights, all power to the people.

1066
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,200
Yes, Mr. Ramirez, you're up.

1067
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:50,440
Thank you.

1068
01:24:50,860 --> 01:24:55,560
Mr. Ramirez, and then Ed Ramirez, and then Gregory Barker.

1069
01:24:55,980 --> 01:25:00,260
And forgive me, I just couldn't read the, I don't know if that's an A or an A or an A or an A, or

1070
01:25:00,260 --> 01:25:04,440
I apologize, but if you are Gregory, please feel free to come on up, okay.

1071
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,220
Mr. Ramirez, you have three minutes.

1072
01:25:11,340 --> 01:25:13,700
I apologize, my name is Gustavo Ramirez.

1073
01:25:15,460 --> 01:25:23,120
My mom is sick. Sorry. Thank you. Everybody here. Thank you. And I'm saying this in advance.

1074
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:31,700
I'm being on my best behavior today. But I agree with what was just said by the young woman, the young, amazing courageous woman.

1075
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:38,480
Absolute. That's not what I was going to talk about. But absolutely homelessness is looked down upon by almost everybody in the city.

1076
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:42,360
and just about everybody on City Council and the mayor and so many other people.

1077
01:25:42,580 --> 01:25:47,760
Absolutely homeless this, when I go to homeless people who are me, they're me, I see me,

1078
01:25:47,980 --> 01:25:51,420
and I give them food, and sometimes I give them $2 bills to get their attention,

1079
01:25:51,740 --> 01:25:56,100
and I talk about how crazy I am, and I talk about how addicted I was, and I talk about

1080
01:25:56,100 --> 01:26:00,900
whole avenue that I know it well, and then, and then they start going with me in an

1081
01:26:00,900 --> 01:26:04,080
narcotics anonymous, and then I start taking them to rehabs, and then they start

1082
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,760
graduating from rehabilitation centers, and then I take them to schools in Los Angeles,

1083
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:18,240
And I take the schools in Cerritos and I take the schools all over Southern California even by Palm Springs to indigenous schools Native American and then they start graduating and so so I wasn't going to talk about that.

1084
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:33,180
But let's feed the homeless and then house the homeless and then and then create take away all those all just a bad motels along hold and Gary and foothill and mission and reservoir and and and turn them into state of the art rehabs.

1085
01:26:33,180 --> 01:26:39,200
Other people have done it. Talk to Hilda Salise. Talk to who's leaving in a couple weeks from Pomona

1086
01:26:40,220 --> 01:26:42,760
Anyway, so so there's so much to be said, but let me

1087
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:50,640
Oh, no, okay, so let's help them okay, and then provide rehabs. So here I am really nervous as always

1088
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,940
I brought my dad my dad wanted to come we he's amazing

1089
01:26:53,940 --> 01:26:57,980
He's 98 and a half years old my dad. Hi dad. They're saying hi to you and

1090
01:26:57,980 --> 01:27:07,500
And he knows half of you here, and especially Lorraine and Debra, he calls Debra the one who's going to the so-called Monitos, someone with the beautiful eyes, oh gosh, I have one minute.

1091
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:09,500
Okay, so, gosh, let me focus.

1092
01:27:09,900 --> 01:27:13,780
So my dad was pretty much, I'll say, attacked yesterday.

1093
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:18,740
We're talking about constitutional rights, about our fourth amendment rights, about unlawful searches and seizures.

1094
01:27:19,300 --> 01:27:25,080
Three armed people with guns came into our house without warrants, and without permission,

1095
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,800
and just bars all the way in, looking, searches and seizures.

1096
01:27:30,340 --> 01:27:32,340
I know what they're looking for because I know how they're trained.

1097
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,960
And then they lied. I was trying to get my dad in medication.

1098
01:27:36,220 --> 01:27:38,320
They impeded me from giving medication to my dad.

1099
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,360
They claimed they were there for a wellness check.

1100
01:27:41,480 --> 01:27:42,900
They never even looked at my dad ever.

1101
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:43,720
Didn't even look at my dad.

1102
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,540
When they left, he almost fell off the four steps.

1103
01:27:46,780 --> 01:27:48,880
He just had to dream. I didn't tell him what I'm telling you now.

1104
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:53,320
He had a dream the night before that he was going to be killed,

1105
01:27:53,320 --> 01:28:01,180
He's going to be shot by people with guns so he's traumatized and I'm traumatized. I just laughed to keep him from crying and I laughed so that I can be

1106
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:03,480
sane enough

1107
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:11,560
To change the world and three seconds. So I'm gonna also go for mayor and when I'm become the mayor and I know we will team up

1108
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,260
Taman on sorry

1109
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,440
Sorry, mr. Maris

1110
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,560
Ed Ramirez if you please come on up and then Gregory

1111
01:28:26,420 --> 01:28:28,160
Again, I don't want to mispronounce your last name.

1112
01:28:28,260 --> 01:28:30,740
I don't know if it's banker or banker.

1113
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:31,960
Forgive me.

1114
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:32,540
Are you here?

1115
01:28:34,140 --> 01:28:34,980
Oh, welcome, sir.

1116
01:28:35,180 --> 01:28:35,400
Welcome.

1117
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:36,020
My apologies.

1118
01:28:36,180 --> 01:28:36,720
Ed Ramirez.

1119
01:28:37,460 --> 01:28:38,000
Are you here?

1120
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:39,960
Oh, OK, got you.

1121
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:41,100
We have the mobile mic.

1122
01:28:41,500 --> 01:28:42,120
Do you prefer that?

1123
01:28:42,140 --> 01:28:43,020
Yeah, he could sit there.

1124
01:28:43,540 --> 01:28:46,460
Yeah, he could just sit there and just give them the mobile mic.

1125
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:47,800
And he has three minutes.

1126
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:48,560
Just test.

1127
01:28:50,850 --> 01:28:51,830
Let me help him.

1128
01:28:53,610 --> 01:28:54,370
You go to your stuff.

1129
01:28:54,530 --> 01:28:55,290
I'm going to do it anytime.

1130
01:28:56,150 --> 01:28:56,790
Thank you.

1131
01:28:58,100 --> 01:29:02,180
Guests, why don't you take your time and sir, why don't you Ed Ed?

1132
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:06,340
Yeah, that's Ed. Gregory. But why don't why don't we bring you up Gregory?

1133
01:29:06,980 --> 01:29:10,740
Yeah, and you have three minutes and in my apologies. Can you tell me your last name?

1134
01:29:11,620 --> 01:29:14,220
Booker all booker my my my apologies sir

1135
01:29:14,900 --> 01:29:19,900
Welcome, mr. Booker. You have three minutes. Okay. Um last year. I talked to I

1136
01:29:20,900 --> 01:29:27,200
Asked him the manager a monitoring station apartment if they could do something to make the

1137
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:37,940
the planner in front of my living room window less comfortable for people like put some little pyramids or something on it.

1138
01:29:38,060 --> 01:29:39,400
I would have given paid for it.

1139
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:47,780
I got back a no each time that they don't want to do anything to change the aesthetic appearance of the building.

1140
01:29:47,780 --> 01:29:59,220
and I came in to talk to the assistant to the councilman.

1141
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:31,410
She asked me to bring in a video stick to show all the videos of the people that have been coming and converging on my living room window because I happen to be right by the emergency exit on Monterey Avenue. And so the thing is, is that people are sitting on that planner. And you're going to see people smoking there.

1142
01:30:31,410 --> 01:30:38,930
free-facing. You're going to see, I got photographs of people with the aluminum foil pouch with the

1143
01:30:40,850 --> 01:30:45,810
crystal meth in it, cooking it right there. So I've got the pictures of that.

1144
01:30:47,750 --> 01:30:53,110
And the smoke comes in even with the windows closed because right at the bottom of the window,

1145
01:30:53,110 --> 01:30:59,430
there is a little vent. And that's to provide an air gap for the fan and the bathroom

1146
01:30:59,430 --> 01:31:04,750
room because the bathroom fans are locked on, there's no switch to turn that off.

1147
01:31:05,030 --> 01:31:10,550
And there's an air gap under the door about three quarters of an inch to allow the air to flow through.

1148
01:31:10,710 --> 01:31:17,810
That's to prevent mildew and staff from growing in the bathrooms so they don't have to replace the walls.

1149
01:31:18,670 --> 01:31:25,770
And so, I understand why they did it, but I don't think they saw what would have happened.

1150
01:31:25,770 --> 01:31:29,670
and that the front planner was not built there

1151
01:31:29,670 --> 01:31:32,390
as a seating area, it was never presented to anybody

1152
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:36,870
as one of the common areas.

1153
01:31:37,430 --> 01:31:39,550
The common areas are any inter-parameter

1154
01:31:39,550 --> 01:31:42,110
of the buildings, of building A and B,

1155
01:31:43,010 --> 01:31:46,850
nothing on the outside, on the outside or our units.

1156
01:31:46,970 --> 01:31:50,990
If you got an outside unit, then you got a living room window

1157
01:31:50,990 --> 01:32:01,770
but there's only fencing around the bedroom window and the door but people are converging

1158
01:32:01,770 --> 01:32:10,050
on this front part and right here is the emergency access. It's supposed to be an exit only

1159
01:32:10,050 --> 01:32:17,770
because they took the handle off but the people are dealing drugs and so they're coming here and

1160
01:32:18,610 --> 01:32:20,930
There's a book I had to catch you after three minutes is up.

1161
01:32:21,350 --> 01:32:26,290
I did give your address to our team because you put it in your card.

1162
01:32:26,810 --> 01:32:28,370
I believe this is the monitoring station.

1163
01:32:29,170 --> 01:32:29,550
That is correct.

1164
01:32:29,850 --> 01:32:30,030
Okay.

1165
01:32:30,530 --> 01:32:36,370
So whoever we have on our team that can enforce some of that.

1166
01:32:36,450 --> 01:32:38,010
I realize it may be multiple departments.

1167
01:32:38,110 --> 01:32:41,610
Everything from the heart team to the code enforcement.

1168
01:32:41,610 --> 01:32:47,450
I don't know housing, but it seems like perhaps there's an opportunity to engage

1169
01:32:47,450 --> 01:32:58,030
There's the management company about this issue and it sounds like you want to put something that would prevent people from sitting and so but but I can't continue this conversation with you, but.

1170
01:32:58,270 --> 01:32:59,930
Mr. Booker, I have to speak with Betty.

1171
01:33:00,250 --> 01:33:02,690
Yeah, we're going to get your contact information and talk about it.

1172
01:33:02,690 --> 01:33:04,890
Okay, Mr. Booker, I appreciate your flexibility.

1173
01:33:05,010 --> 01:33:05,870
Thank you so much.

1174
01:33:06,970 --> 01:33:11,190
All right, Mr. Ramirez, you're our last speaker.

1175
01:33:11,610 --> 01:33:11,770
Gus?

1176
01:33:12,670 --> 01:33:12,870
Yes.

1177
01:33:13,870 --> 01:33:14,510
Any has three minutes?

1178
01:33:14,890 --> 01:33:15,030
Yes.

1179
01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:15,270
Okay.

1180
01:33:20,140 --> 01:33:28,460
Okay. Okay. Sorry. He forgets stuff in five minutes. Um. Yeah. Gus. Okay. Gus, let's stop for a second.

1181
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:35,340
No stress whatsoever. Let him give it his best. You'll say what he can say. And if he doesn't say

1182
01:33:35,340 --> 01:33:40,140
something, it's okay. You could always submit something in writing for him so that we know what his

1183
01:33:40,140 --> 01:33:44,780
thoughts are. Thank you. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. And he has the three minutes. If we can restart

1184
01:33:44,780 --> 01:33:48,300
the clock. We can restart the clock.

1185
01:33:50,340 --> 01:33:56,600
We wrote it yesterday. Three minutes. Restart the clock.

1186
01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:01,720
Sorry. We're doing it manually. Okay, you start your time stress. Yes, please.

1187
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:02,860
Please, con ganas.

1188
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:08,780
Per favor, tienes que ver esto que me lo hago.

1189
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:12,160
Inínglez

1190
01:34:14,380 --> 01:34:16,600
Entro a mi house.

1191
01:34:16,980 --> 01:34:17,980
Entro a mi house.

1192
01:34:18,500 --> 01:34:19,140
What's right here?

1193
01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:20,140
I'm sorry.

1194
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:20,580
Thank you.

1195
01:34:20,580 --> 01:34:33,160
Three armed people entered my house without permits. I always had a hard attack. Then I almost

1196
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:45,360
fell down the cement stairs. I almost broke. That's what we're going to do about it. I was

1197
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:48,680
They broke my head open.

1198
01:34:51,460 --> 01:34:53,560
Thank you, thank you so much, Mayor.

1199
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:54,220
Thank you.

1200
01:34:56,650 --> 01:34:58,410
They broke my son.

1201
01:34:58,970 --> 01:34:59,910
They blocked my son.

1202
01:35:00,170 --> 01:35:02,450
From grieving me, medication.

1203
01:35:03,850 --> 01:35:09,650
I was through the dying of pain.

1204
01:35:09,790 --> 01:35:10,870
He's dying of pain, so.

1205
01:35:13,790 --> 01:35:18,410
They never asked me how I'm doing

1206
01:35:18,410 --> 01:35:26,150
They never even looked at me, they never even looked at me.

1207
01:35:26,150 --> 01:35:32,470
Oh, it made no fun, are you?

1208
01:35:33,070 --> 01:35:34,110
He wants you to help him.

1209
01:35:34,610 --> 01:35:36,790
And what's not, I'm not supposed to.

1210
01:35:36,790 --> 01:35:37,770
He wanted to talk to the police.

1211
01:35:38,110 --> 01:35:38,330
Yeah.

1212
01:35:38,610 --> 01:35:39,090
Okay.

1213
01:35:40,290 --> 01:35:41,230
We can direct him after.

1214
01:35:42,350 --> 01:35:43,890
Is he have the order to say?

1215
01:35:44,350 --> 01:35:44,890
Okay.

1216
01:35:50,510 --> 01:35:50,950
Okay.

1217
01:35:51,590 --> 01:35:51,790
Okay.

1218
01:35:52,530 --> 01:35:53,070
That's it.

1219
01:35:53,290 --> 01:35:53,430
Yeah.

1220
01:35:53,610 --> 01:35:54,130
Thank you.

1221
01:35:54,290 --> 01:35:57,430
I just want to know what you had to do.

1222
01:35:57,850 --> 01:35:58,290
Okay.

1223
01:35:58,650 --> 01:36:00,250
So, what do I have to tell?

1224
01:36:00,790 --> 01:36:01,550
Thank you.

1225
01:36:01,570 --> 01:36:03,130
Thank you, Mr. Remors.

1226
01:36:03,610 --> 01:36:04,370
Chief is here.

1227
01:36:04,710 --> 01:36:05,130
Thank you.

1228
01:36:05,130 --> 01:36:05,970
Chief is going to go back.

1229
01:36:06,190 --> 01:36:12,230
And he just needs to gather as much information as possible, even if it's you can share that.

1230
01:36:12,230 --> 01:36:16,410
what was your father said and then see what we can do, okay?

1231
01:36:16,730 --> 01:36:18,090
We got half of it on Facebook live.

1232
01:36:18,450 --> 01:36:19,110
Okay, very good.

1233
01:36:19,490 --> 01:36:20,230
All right, thank you.

1234
01:36:20,450 --> 01:36:20,710
Thank you.

1235
01:36:20,990 --> 01:36:25,850
By the public speaker on non-consent item.

1236
01:36:26,090 --> 01:36:26,590
So thank you.

1237
01:36:27,030 --> 01:36:29,470
All right, Carla, let me go and turn it over to you.

1238
01:36:29,870 --> 01:36:32,170
Mayor, we do have two hands raised online.

1239
01:36:32,670 --> 01:36:34,290
So they've had their hands raised for a while.

1240
01:36:34,430 --> 01:36:37,030
I'm just gonna check to see if this is the item

1241
01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:39,350
that they would like to speak on or if it's a different item.

1242
01:36:39,910 --> 01:36:39,930
Okay.

1243
01:36:39,930 --> 01:36:44,130
Okay. For our online participants, please listen for your name and instructions.

1244
01:36:45,130 --> 01:36:50,590
Speaker, Cynthia, Cabela, Zalada, can you unmute yourself and let us know if you are here

1245
01:36:50,590 --> 01:36:52,590
for public comment, not agenda item.

1246
01:37:09,290 --> 01:37:10,250
Cynthia, can you hear me?

1247
01:37:13,540 --> 01:37:14,160
One second.

1248
01:37:14,340 --> 01:37:14,680
One second.

1249
01:37:24,490 --> 01:37:25,150
Go ahead.

1250
01:37:27,590 --> 01:37:28,590
Cynthia, can you hear me?

1251
01:37:38,850 --> 01:37:39,290
One second.

1252
01:37:39,930 --> 01:37:40,750
Give me a moment.

1253
01:37:40,870 --> 01:37:42,030
We're trying to resolve these issues.

1254
01:37:50,650 --> 01:37:50,870
Come on.

1255
01:37:52,370 --> 01:37:53,530
Please go again.

1256
01:37:56,380 --> 01:37:57,180
Cynthia, can you hear me?

1257
01:38:04,300 --> 01:38:10,240
I can't hear you. Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Are you here to speak on public comment for non-agenda items?

1258
01:38:11,140 --> 01:38:17,640
Public comment, it's technically a agenda item discussing item number 18.

1259
01:38:18,340 --> 01:38:24,700
Okay, so what we'll have you do is just when we call that item, we will call you again for the public comment on that item.

1260
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:27,500
Okay, can it just be a public comment?

1261
01:38:28,420 --> 01:38:32,860
If you're not speaking on any items on the agenda, you can give public comment right now.

1262
01:38:32,860 --> 01:38:39,220
It'll be referencing on will I have to wait you will have to wait until item 18 is called okay

1263
01:38:39,940 --> 01:38:44,900
Okay, so go ahead and mute yourself again and then we'll call on you when we get to item 18

1264
01:38:48,020 --> 01:38:56,940
Okay, Speaker Victoria at housing action coalition. Can you unmute yourself and let us know if you're here for a public comment on non-agenda items

1265
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:10,340
Speaker Victoria at housing action coalition. Can you unmute yourself?

1266
01:39:10,340 --> 01:39:11,480
Can you hear me?

1267
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,320
Are you here for public comment on non-agendized items?

1268
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:19,360
Yes.

1269
01:39:21,060 --> 01:39:21,400
Okay.

1270
01:39:21,460 --> 01:39:24,820
Can I do both? Can I do a general and deny to my item?

1271
01:39:26,260 --> 01:39:26,920
Agendized item?

1272
01:39:27,900 --> 01:39:31,380
No, you can, for this one, it's only on non-agendized items.

1273
01:39:35,770 --> 01:39:38,090
Okay. Yeah, I could do it a general.

1274
01:39:39,250 --> 01:39:40,370
I'll do it an agenda later.

1275
01:39:40,370 --> 01:39:59,050
here. Okay, you have three minutes. Go ahead. Thank you. Um, yes. So hi, everybody. My name is Victoria. I am a resident of Pomona. I typically, um, I'm a community organizer and, um, involved in local politics. I typically do public comment at, you know,

1276
01:39:59,050 --> 01:40:14,110
Allie City Council or Allie County Board of Supervisors, I'm very proud to now be engaging in the Pomona City process. Although I'm very disappointed to say that your technology issues are making this meeting very inaccessible.

1277
01:40:15,730 --> 01:40:21,190
The interruptions of public commenters by the council was very inappropriate and unprofessional.

1278
01:40:22,130 --> 01:40:29,250
The inability to access the agenda earlier in the day, there are some glitches with your PDF and agenda access.

1279
01:40:30,470 --> 01:40:38,030
All, you know, do not reassure me as a constituent that this government is moving efficiently or effectively to meet the needs of the people.

1280
01:40:39,330 --> 01:40:50,630
Although I'm not really surprised because having been a resident for over five years now, it's pretty clear in the neighborhood how the city is not meeting the needs of the people.

1281
01:40:50,630 --> 01:41:03,990
So I just want to give comment on how can we make these meetings more accessible to the community more equitable for people with disabilities or technology disadvantages.

1282
01:41:03,990 --> 01:41:14,110
And yeah, in addition to that, I also wanted to give a comment on a private issue related to my family.

1283
01:41:14,490 --> 01:41:21,730
My mom was actually the previous commenter who was having issues and is going to wait for an agenda's item.

1284
01:41:22,290 --> 01:41:29,630
But she's here to talk about an issue with tree roots invading her pipelines in her home.

1285
01:41:29,630 --> 01:41:35,950
and this is actually causing great financial burden on to our family.

1286
01:41:36,710 --> 01:41:38,090
She's going into the item now.

1287
01:41:39,150 --> 01:41:41,070
No, I'm talking about a personal issue.

1288
01:41:41,530 --> 01:41:44,670
No, it's an item related to your personal issue regarding the trees.

1289
01:41:45,170 --> 01:41:49,530
That is an agenda item that is separate from public comment on non-agent items.

1290
01:41:50,210 --> 01:41:50,910
I'll let you continue.

1291
01:41:51,190 --> 01:41:54,810
I was unaware of that item on the agenda.

1292
01:41:55,090 --> 01:41:58,410
I just wanted to continue my public comment uninterrupted.

1293
01:41:58,410 --> 01:42:19,850
I just want to encourage the City Council to do what it can to support property owners and home owners in this community, especially homeowners that are maintaining the historical value of the neighborhood that are owning and refurbishing historical landmark homes that carry a lot of history and culture for the neighborhood.

1294
01:42:19,850 --> 01:42:32,850
I think that we need to provide more services for home owners specifically in the Lincoln Park neighborhood and support them because they're carrying the burden and the cost of, you know, the community to maintain our culture.

1295
01:42:33,150 --> 01:42:42,750
So if we can create more programs, especially financial incentives or reimbursements that support people who are putting are funding the costs of maintaining the city's infrastructure.

1296
01:42:42,750 --> 01:42:58,250
that would be amazing. Regardless of if it's trees, street repair, painting, whatever it is, you know, homeowners are holding up this city and so whatever we can do to support them, that would be great. Thank you.

1297
01:42:59,510 --> 01:43:00,250
Thank you.

1298
01:43:00,790 --> 01:43:02,550
All right. I think that's our final speaker.

1299
01:43:02,550 --> 01:43:09,230
Okay, so that's all public comment on non-agents items. Let's go ahead and go to the next items.

1300
01:43:10,530 --> 01:43:17,470
Mayor, the next item is the consent calendar. All matters under the consent calendar may be enacted by a single motion without separate discussion.

1301
01:43:17,910 --> 01:43:25,390
If discussion or a separate vote on any item is desired by a council member, that item may be removed from the consent calendar and considered separately.

1302
01:43:25,390 --> 01:43:29,430
remotely. Remote participants, please raise your hand at this time to speak on any consent

1303
01:43:29,430 --> 01:43:34,230
calendar item and wait for further instruction. Only those digital hands raise now and speaker

1304
01:43:34,230 --> 01:43:38,750
cards submitted now will be allowed to address the city council. And Mayor, the city manager

1305
01:43:38,750 --> 01:43:41,210
would like to comment on one of the items.

1306
01:43:42,130 --> 01:43:44,750
Yeah, we spoke, I don't know if it's the item that you want to continue.

1307
01:43:45,030 --> 01:43:47,650
Yes, item number seven, Mayor. I'd like to continue that to continue.

1308
01:43:47,650 --> 01:43:49,810
All right, so we'll move that from the agenda. We'll continue the item.

1309
01:43:49,810 --> 01:43:55,510
We have any speakers on any of the 16 non-consent, I'm sorry, consent calendar items.

1310
01:43:56,910 --> 01:43:58,150
No, no speakers.

1311
01:43:58,230 --> 01:43:58,410
Okay.

1312
01:43:58,550 --> 01:44:03,490
And I understand that there is a council member, I'm sorry, vice mayor.

1313
01:44:03,830 --> 01:44:06,130
Was there an item you just wanted to comment on briefly?

1314
01:44:07,370 --> 01:44:08,430
Okay, okay, very good.

1315
01:44:08,750 --> 01:44:13,290
So I would be happy to entertain a motion for items one through 16 on consent.

1316
01:44:13,290 --> 01:44:23,470
I would like to entertain a motion to accept all consent calendar items minus item seven, which will be continued very good. Thank you councilmember. I'll be happy to take a second.

1317
01:44:24,510 --> 01:44:26,450
I'll second it. All right. Let's go and do a roll call.

1318
01:44:29,510 --> 01:44:30,550
Martin. Yes.

1319
01:44:30,550 --> 01:44:30,670
Yes.

1320
01:44:30,790 --> 01:44:31,290
Pressieto.

1321
01:44:31,390 --> 01:44:31,550
Yes.

1322
01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:32,170
Garcia.

1323
01:44:32,570 --> 01:44:32,790
Yes.

1324
01:44:33,010 --> 01:44:33,570
On a very old school.

1325
01:44:33,830 --> 01:44:33,990
Yes.

1326
01:44:34,230 --> 01:44:34,690
Lestro.

1327
01:44:35,230 --> 01:44:35,730
Canalus.

1328
01:44:35,950 --> 01:44:36,150
Yes.

1329
01:44:36,390 --> 01:44:36,850
Send them all.

1330
01:44:37,390 --> 01:44:37,890
Yes.

1331
01:44:39,970 --> 01:44:48,230
So the question I have is as we go into discussion calendar, do we have speakers for any of the discussion

1332
01:44:48,230 --> 01:44:49,110
calendar items?

1333
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:53,760
And if so, what item has the most speakers?

1334
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:56,900
Item 18 has six speakers.

1335
01:44:56,900 --> 01:44:59,400
and to...

1336
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,200
Online and item 20, the public hearing has one speaker. Okay. So, so I would recommend that we go to 18 and then come back to 17 and then we'll move forward. Okay. So we're going to go to. I apologize, man. I understand we have your colleague here that's going to be helping with that part, but I'd like to get those who are waiting in the audience to be able to get home at a reasonable time. All right. Good. If I can go and get those cards, we certainly have a presentation from staff.

1337
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:30,700
We're regarding this item.

1338
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:37,080
Item number 18 is City Council direction regarding the procurement of Citywide Tree Maintenance and Emergency Response Services.

1339
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:42,220
Welcome, Meg.

1340
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:43,280
Good evening.

1341
01:45:44,460 --> 01:45:45,360
And good evening.

1342
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:51,820
Meg McQuade Public Works Director, I appreciate your patience when we're going over the tree issue for the third time.

1343
01:45:51,980 --> 01:45:53,160
I appreciate it very much.

1344
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:59,500
The entire council is here tonight so I will go into detail because not everybody heard the presentation last time.

1345
01:45:59,500 --> 01:46:06,280
But essentially we're looking for direction related to the procurement process for our overall tree contract.

1346
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:11,080
And so the comprehensive tree care that we're looking for,

1347
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,880
basically Pomona has a really complex urban forest.

1348
01:46:17,140 --> 01:46:26,580
We have 36,000 trees and we went out in terms of a procurement for an RFP which is a request for proposals process.

1349
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,680
So it's a balance of most qualified and pricing.

1350
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:37,840
So we look at a balance of things when we do an RFP process, and this process looked at level A maintenance standards.

1351
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:39,820
That's what we were looking for for our community.

1352
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:45,000
It was balancing the safety and also what we know about the needs of our urban forest.

1353
01:46:45,580 --> 01:46:54,320
Our urban forest over the last many decades has been trimmed by West Coast, our forest, and they have done a good job.

1354
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:59,760
They have done a really good job and part of that grid trimming was related to the grid

1355
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:04,120
trim contracts that we could afford and how the grid trims were defined.

1356
01:47:04,780 --> 01:47:09,340
When we were going through this RFP process, we looked at the money we had available to

1357
01:47:09,340 --> 01:47:16,900
us and we looked at how we could enhance the level of grid trimming given our current urban

1358
01:47:16,900 --> 01:47:19,200
forest and the structure of the trees.

1359
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:26,320
typically with a grid trim and I'll get into kind of the more details of why this is a more robust RFP.

1360
01:47:28,180 --> 01:47:37,420
There are a lot of words on that screen. I'm not reading them to you. Basically all I want to say is that when we originally were talking about this process and it was well over a year ago.

1361
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:49,180
Our staff and our team came forward to the city manager and said we would like to do a piggyback process. We didn't know what measures measure why was going to be whether or not.

1362
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:55,220
there would be an answer to that and what that would mean to our city finances, so the idea was to

1363
01:47:55,220 --> 01:48:01,500
extend the city manager rightfully and our leadership said we need to have a bidding process.

1364
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:06,100
We have not done a bid on this contract for a really long time and I believe it's what our council

1365
01:48:06,100 --> 01:48:11,320
and our community deserves. So that's what we did. We went out for an RFP when we got the bid and we

1366
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:16,040
extended the existing contract with West Coast for six months. When we got the bids back there were

1367
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:20,280
some bid irregularities and even West Coast did a bid protest on that.

1368
01:48:20,660 --> 01:48:22,720
We brought it to City Council and recommended.

1369
01:48:23,340 --> 01:48:27,560
We would like to do, cancel that RFP and we'd like to do another process.

1370
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:29,640
We did that in December.

1371
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:33,340
In January, we were meeting with the City Attorney's Office and

1372
01:48:33,340 --> 01:48:37,620
developed what we're talking about now, which is a request for proposal process.

1373
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:42,120
It's a balance between cost and between technical merit and

1374
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:43,440
experience of the candidates.

1375
01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:48,740
And it allows us to qualify them, but also to look at them independently.

1376
01:48:49,420 --> 01:48:53,380
So we did that, we developed the scope of work.

1377
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:56,720
We also had some legislation that required us to notice.

1378
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:03,980
So we added 45 days into the process, which is why we were not talking about this with you until July 6th.

1379
01:49:03,980 --> 01:49:11,440
And then this item was continued to July 20th, where a decision was not made to move forward with a tree contractor.

1380
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,260
So we'll again talk a little bit more about the process.

1381
01:49:15,860 --> 01:49:22,100
So I mentioned the RFP, what we currently have under our scope of work, and the enhancements

1382
01:49:22,100 --> 01:49:27,480
that we will have for the grid trim and the future pruning, which is better for our urban

1383
01:49:27,480 --> 01:49:28,460
forest long term.

1384
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:30,760
So one of the things is the canopy.

1385
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:35,800
Right now you trim up to ISA standards, which is what we have asked for and what we paid for

1386
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:36,440
in our contract.

1387
01:49:36,440 --> 01:49:50,980
What the new agreement is, is that we can do crown reductions and more enhanced trimming up to 40% of the canopy again under ISA standards but at the grid trim price.

1388
01:49:51,560 --> 01:50:03,140
So as the contractor goes out there and with our team member looks at the area, some areas may only need the 25% because they were able to be maintained on a regular basis or

1389
01:50:03,140 --> 01:50:06,740
For this type of tree does not grow as quickly as something else.

1390
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:12,740
But there are areas in the city because we did not have enough funding during my tenure,

1391
01:50:12,740 --> 01:50:18,620
I've been here decades, and there were times when our grid trim, because of financial reasons,

1392
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:23,220
had to go to seven years, had to go to almost eight years in some cases.

1393
01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:27,480
And certainly in Phillips Ranch, we have not had a grid trim cycle.

1394
01:50:27,780 --> 01:50:29,600
We just have not been able to afford it.

1395
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:35,140
So there are trees in our urban forests that need to be trimmed differently, and this

1396
01:50:35,140 --> 01:50:40,280
grid trim price allows us to do that and allows us over the next several years to correct

1397
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:41,200
the urban forest.

1398
01:50:41,780 --> 01:50:47,100
Again, not a reflection of what West Coast did, they're really good at their job, but it

1399
01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:51,260
was a reflection of the resources we had available to put towards that contract.

1400
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:55,820
Also in the new agreement, we're looking at palm trimming rather than every five years,

1401
01:50:55,820 --> 01:50:59,960
every two years, Chinese Elm will continue to be maintained on a two-year cycle.

1402
01:51:00,480 --> 01:51:05,040
Philip Schranche assessment district trees, we asked for through this process and our project approach.

1403
01:51:05,260 --> 01:51:11,300
We said, please give us some sort of grid trim process for a 10-year cycle.

1404
01:51:11,660 --> 01:51:14,240
Again, right now, we are not on a cycle at all.

1405
01:51:14,820 --> 01:51:22,220
BPD, we would maintain as needed, but we're asking for a three-year cycle and these cost contemplated that.

1406
01:51:22,220 --> 01:51:25,100
And then inventory at no additional cost.

1407
01:51:25,860 --> 01:51:28,980
So basically right now, if we add trees, we have planting grants.

1408
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:31,980
We planted almost 2,000 trees in the last several years.

1409
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:36,880
Each one of those, every time you have to add to an inventory where it did not exist previously,

1410
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:38,280
that's a cost to the city.

1411
01:51:38,700 --> 01:51:43,340
So the new contract will have to do a full inventory, including all of Philips Ranch Open Space

1412
01:51:43,340 --> 01:51:43,880
areas.

1413
01:51:44,540 --> 01:51:49,080
And then any future enhancements to that inventory will be at no charge.

1414
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:58,760
So all of those made this RFP and this whatever contract will be much more robust and we're really proud of the RFP.

1415
01:51:59,380 --> 01:52:07,240
So the RFP was issued as I mentioned April 29th, and it's issued out through a planet-fidged automated process.

1416
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:14,800
205 firms were notified, 36 firms downloaded the solicitation, and there were eight submissions received.

1417
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:28,600
And two of them were determined, purchasing as the first reviewer of applications or reviewer of the proposals and two were deemed non-responsive, so did not go to the evaluation team and the remaining six did.

1418
01:52:29,140 --> 01:52:38,960
And I would say the RFP process allows the city by design, again to award based on the best overall value as well as a pricing but it is not a lowest bid pricing.

1419
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:40,020
So

1420
01:52:42,670 --> 01:52:57,630
the evaluation process proposal review team, I did want to kind of highlight, like I did last time, we do have Danny Wiley sitting here, we also have Lindsay McAwayne, but Danny is an ISA certified arborist since 2005.

1421
01:52:58,050 --> 01:53:08,450
He's track certified, which is tree risk assessment qualified board certified, very proud of him for doing this, but recently became a board certified master arborist.

1422
01:53:08,450 --> 01:53:13,310
And fewer than 2% of all of the certified arborists in the nation are that.

1423
01:53:13,790 --> 01:53:15,250
So congratulations, Danny.

1424
01:53:15,770 --> 01:53:19,010
He's also municipal contract experience since 1998.

1425
01:53:19,750 --> 01:53:21,930
Lindsay was also on the proposal review team.

1426
01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:25,350
She has over 10 years of municipal contract management experience.

1427
01:53:25,930 --> 01:53:30,710
She did, she led the City of Rancho Cucamongas Urban Forest Management Plan.

1428
01:53:31,210 --> 01:53:33,190
And then she also the development of that.

1429
01:53:33,450 --> 01:53:37,730
And then also managed the City of Rancho Cucamongas contract for

1430
01:53:37,730 --> 01:53:41,750
they're 72,000 trees with West Coast Arborist as their contractor.

1431
01:53:42,410 --> 01:53:46,470
We also had Michael Ethridge, and I know you know he's been on the front lines of trees

1432
01:53:46,820 --> 01:53:49,150
for over 30 years here in the city of Pomona.

1433
01:53:49,570 --> 01:53:54,490
Not only knows the community, probably better than most, but certainly knows almost every tree

1434
01:53:54,490 --> 01:53:55,050
in the city.

1435
01:53:55,510 --> 01:54:00,850
And so he has actively been a participant in parks and landscape for 30 years, but also been

1436
01:54:00,850 --> 01:54:06,390
an active supervisor and overseer of the tree contract for 10 years.

1437
01:54:06,390 --> 01:54:13,770
So, the proposal, that's to tell you a little bit about who independently reviewed these proposals as they came in.

1438
01:54:14,090 --> 01:54:19,370
They're also the people that developed the project approach, so understood completely what the city needed

1439
01:54:19,370 --> 01:54:23,330
and what we were looking for for the proposers to respond back to us.

1440
01:54:23,990 --> 01:54:28,970
So, there, basically there was an evaluation project approach was given 40 points.

1441
01:54:29,350 --> 01:54:35,390
Very important for us to know that you saw what we were asking for from you and you responded and said,

1442
01:54:35,390 --> 01:55:04,810
Yes, I understand, qualifications and experience were 20 points, technical merit was 10 points, and then the price reasonableness, the city has an automated scoring calculation based on whatever the proposers put in plan of it, and so it's a calculated formula was included in the staff report, and it's also included in the RFP, so each one of the proposers understands it, but it's basically so that it's a very mathematical calculation and assigned points based on that.

1443
01:55:04,810 --> 01:55:10,590
So, the evaluation team had 70 points each for the three evaluators, and then the price

1444
01:55:10,590 --> 01:55:13,830
reasonableness, so 240 maximum possible points.

1445
01:55:14,330 --> 01:55:20,870
So each one of those reviewers looked at the proposals, submitted their evaluation scores

1446
01:55:20,870 --> 01:55:27,350
online on Planet Bids, then purchasing, picks those up, and gives the tallies the scores

1447
01:55:27,350 --> 01:55:28,730
and comes up with the scores.

1448
01:55:31,900 --> 01:55:32,720
Thank you.

1449
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:34,540
No, never doing that, it's magic.

1450
01:55:35,690 --> 01:55:38,440
The RFP process is a transparent process.

1451
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:43,040
So the pricing information, part of the reason why I'm bringing it up, that there was an

1452
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:49,460
automated pricing calculation, it's because there are two prices that change from the July

1453
01:55:49,460 --> 01:55:51,800
6th and July 20th report.

1454
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:57,320
And that's because the bottom line total of two of the proposals for a clerical reason,

1455
01:55:57,480 --> 01:56:00,760
I'm sure clerical error, did not include some of the components.

1456
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:07,440
There are subtotals throughout the bid pricing sheet, and the total overall was incorrect.

1457
01:56:07,620 --> 01:56:09,600
It just had not included one of the numbers.

1458
01:56:10,340 --> 01:56:14,480
So there was a revision to the West Coast Arborist dollar amount, and

1459
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:18,220
they went from 4.514 to 4.553.

1460
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:23,900
And then the larger, much larger error was with tiger tree services, and

1461
01:56:23,900 --> 01:56:25,180
they went from 1.8.

1462
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:28,080
They had erroneously left out a larger sub total.

1463
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:32,340
and their real total was 2.9 million.

1464
01:56:32,620 --> 01:56:36,200
So when we're talking about the pricing and how it works,

1465
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,740
they scored, their score had to change

1466
01:56:39,740 --> 01:56:42,820
from the last iteration that you saw on your council report.

1467
01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:45,060
Again, we believe it's clerical error,

1468
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:48,280
so we would not automatically disqualify these bitters,

1469
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:50,400
but it did not change the ranking.

1470
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:52,300
It just changes their pricing

1471
01:56:52,300 --> 01:56:55,020
so that you have full disclosure of their pricing.

1472
01:56:56,960 --> 01:57:01,300
And this is just how did we come up with the dollar bottom line dollar amounts?

1473
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:05,520
We looked at those cycles that I talked about, the five year grid trim cycle, the two year

1474
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:07,440
for Chinese Elm, two year for palm trees.

1475
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:12,180
And then that was a single number, or those were numbers, and then it was added.

1476
01:57:12,540 --> 01:57:17,520
There are other items like emergency response or crew rental or other things that we don't

1477
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:18,900
do on a regular enough basis.

1478
01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:20,980
And so those were a one for one.

1479
01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:25,040
The total is how that base bid proposal gets ranked.

1480
01:57:27,210 --> 01:57:33,690
So, this is just the calculation of the two factors now, so as you can see the numbers

1481
01:57:33,690 --> 01:57:36,390
change slightly, but again, the ranking did not change.

1482
01:57:36,850 --> 01:57:42,290
And so, there was more points given for the other vendors, because Tiger Tree Services

1483
01:57:43,010 --> 01:57:45,470
was still the lowest, but wasn't quite as low.

1484
01:57:46,110 --> 01:57:51,990
And so, with that, Mariposa was the top candidate that, when we looked at the qualifications, the

1485
01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:57,290
technical merit, and their project approach was number one, given all those.

1486
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:01,700
So why did they rank the highest?

1487
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:07,320
Why did our proposers say that they did the best in terms of their scoring?

1488
01:58:08,020 --> 01:58:15,580
As I mentioned, the pricing is just a standalone calculation, so our evaluators don't look

1489
01:58:15,580 --> 01:58:15,900
at that.

1490
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:20,580
What they did look at is who demonstrated the strongest overall understanding.

1491
01:58:20,580 --> 01:58:25,960
As I mentioned, the RFP defines a project scope of work and kind of like an interview

1492
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:30,300
when somebody asked you a question, you're looking for the best response and did they

1493
01:58:30,300 --> 01:58:33,740
understand what you're looking for, did they understand what you needed.

1494
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:38,420
And Mariposa, particularly in the Phillips Ranch, I know it's something that we've talked

1495
01:58:38,420 --> 01:58:39,320
about and highlighted.

1496
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:44,940
They did not, we did not ask any one of the proposers to give us a work plan.

1497
01:58:44,940 --> 01:58:50,800
We said that we will expect you to give us a work plan through this process and we need

1498
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:55,740
a 10-year cycle on Phillips Ranch and we want you to look at a few things when you give

1499
01:58:55,740 --> 01:58:56,620
us that work plan.

1500
01:58:56,940 --> 01:59:02,120
We don't expect it from you now and we didn't ask it from every proposal because that would

1501
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:07,500
have potentially given an unfair advantage to a contractor that had the entire inventory

1502
01:59:08,020 --> 01:59:12,920
of the Phillips Ranch area and could perhaps have given a different work plan than somebody

1503
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:14,480
who didn't have that information.

1504
01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:19,120
And we didn't, we thought that that would be a lot of work for these proposals who had

1505
01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:20,640
not been selected for award.

1506
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:26,740
So I did want to clarify that Mariposa is the only one that said, I see you, Pomona.

1507
01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:28,960
I see you need a filter and to work plan.

1508
01:59:29,260 --> 01:59:33,880
And I will be responding to that work plan and within 30 days I will give it to you.

1509
01:59:34,240 --> 01:59:38,720
So we did not force anybody or ask anybody nor did they give us a work plan.

1510
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:42,040
What they did is said, I see in your project you need that.

1511
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:49,240
and I will give it to you. The thing about this whole thing, the proposed pruning methodology,

1512
01:59:49,500 --> 01:59:54,260
they also acknowledge the grid trim and the fact that the grid trim was different than most other

1513
01:59:54,260 --> 01:59:59,920
contracts and allowed for up to the 40% and that was important to us, right? To acknowledge again,

1514
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:29,900
That what a normal grid trim is under our current contract is not what we're looking for. We're looking for a higher level. So as they responded and said yes, Pomona, I see what your project approach needs are. They were awarded more points for that reason. The other contractors, particularly the top three got almost full points for the technical expertise as well as the qualifications and experience because they absolutely have it. So the recommendation is based on a fair and transparent city approved purchasing process.

1515
02:00:29,900 --> 02:00:35,160
It what Mariposa was the highest ranked proposal. It's an alignment with city maintenance standards

1516
02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:42,440
They do have a demonstrated technical expertise competitive and reasonable pricing and then the ability to deliver an

1517
02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:53,000
expanded proactive maintenance program so and and I'm sorry to do this do you mind going back two slides because it talked about so when we're talking about the ranking

1518
02:00:53,860 --> 02:00:58,360
Something that I would like to point out is we don't have we have a really

1519
02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:03,660
passionate workforce, but we don't have a lot of people to do management and oversight

1520
02:01:03,660 --> 02:01:09,780
of contracts. So we really, really, really need contractors who have the level of experience

1521
02:01:10,250 --> 02:01:17,540
that have worked in a city with an urban forest that has 30,000 trees that has the complexity

1522
02:01:17,540 --> 02:01:23,260
like the city of Pomona has. We want you to already have that experience because we have

1523
02:01:23,260 --> 02:01:27,320
Michael, Etheridge, and Rodrigo, and they're the ones who are not only going to be managing

1524
02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:32,660
the street tree, but also manage Phillips Ranch, they manage parks maintenance, they

1525
02:01:32,660 --> 02:01:33,740
manage open spaces.

1526
02:01:34,180 --> 02:01:37,960
So this is not their only thing that they have to handle.

1527
02:01:38,460 --> 02:01:45,680
And so the more robust and experience and the more confidence we have than a proposer understood

1528
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:49,040
what we were looking for and said, yes, I will give it to you.

1529
02:01:49,500 --> 02:01:51,460
That made a huge difference to us.

1530
02:01:51,460 --> 02:01:59,060
And when you look at the rankings, you can see it goes from 2.18, and by the time you get down to number 4, you're at 164.

1531
02:01:59,380 --> 02:02:04,840
That's a significant point differential when you're reviewing experience and qualification.

1532
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:11,920
And our team is saying, I would really like to see somebody that has done this successfully for an extended period of time.

1533
02:02:13,500 --> 02:02:15,760
Will you go forward again? Please, thank you.

1534
02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:21,560
So, we are in front of you tonight and there are several options available to you.

1535
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:27,480
And the first one is that the City Council does have the authority to just cancel the

1536
02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:35,240
RFP and rebit staff because of the importance of the urban forest, because of the importance

1537
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:41,760
of staying on a grid cycle, because of the grants that we have right now, where we're supposed

1538
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:48,080
to be planting another 250 trees because of the projects that we have as well as the fact that

1539
02:02:48,080 --> 02:02:55,100
Mariposa ranked the highest and of the ones that had the experience where they're already managing

1540
02:02:55,100 --> 02:03:02,440
a city like Pomona and have for several years they also were the least expensive of those three

1541
02:03:02,440 --> 02:03:08,720
options. We didn't base it on least expensive but the balance of all those point systems Mariposa

1542
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:11,460
was the number one ranking for us.

1543
02:03:11,900 --> 02:03:15,120
We are the original RFP called for a five-year agreement.

1544
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:19,380
What we are recommending because part of the concern maybe that council has never seen

1545
02:03:19,380 --> 02:03:24,920
them produce, nor have we, is that the initial term would be for two years and that we would

1546
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:31,200
bring back every extension to City Council to ensure that we are all in alignment with

1547
02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:31,920
this contract.

1548
02:03:32,900 --> 02:03:35,260
So with that, I will answer questions.

1549
02:03:35,480 --> 02:03:36,480
Are we public comment?

1550
02:03:36,480 --> 02:03:41,940
Thank you. Thank you. May appreciate the presentation and thank you to the team. I know that we have some speakers on this item

1551
02:03:41,940 --> 02:03:46,900
So as we typically do we'll take the speakers and then the council could go and weigh in

1552
02:03:49,460 --> 02:03:51,560
and if you happen to know that you're

1553
02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:57,300
I'm going to call your name and you're sitting in the back just come on over this come forward. It'll be easier and

1554
02:04:00,840 --> 02:04:05,140
There's there's a couple seats there. Thank you. There's some seats right here as well

1555
02:04:05,820 --> 02:04:08,280
make yourselves at home and

1556
02:04:10,740 --> 02:04:13,420
And the first speaker is Gus Garcia.

1557
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:16,780
Good evening, my name is Gus Garcia.

1558
02:04:16,780 --> 02:04:22,640
I'm a senior investigator specializing in public works compliance for the Center for Contract Compliance.

1559
02:04:23,560 --> 02:04:28,220
I'm speaking tonight regarding item 18, the proposed award to Mariposa Tree Management.

1560
02:04:28,680 --> 02:04:34,980
I want to be clear from the beginning, this is not a bid protest, we are not seeking you to select another contractor.

1561
02:04:34,980 --> 02:04:45,020
We are asking you to make sure the contractor being described as the most qualified and responsible has been also property reviewed from a compliance standpoint.

1562
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:56,360
As part of our compliance review, we examined Maria Bosas recent public works project history and its electronic certified payroll reporting through the department of industrial relations.

1563
02:04:57,320 --> 02:04:58,240
Here's what we found.

1564
02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:06,680
We identified 140 ECPR entries after removing duplicate and amended submissions covering the same payroll periods.

1565
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:21,200
Those records drop down to 108 unique payroll periods on those 108 payroll periods 91 had an earliest identifiable submission more than 30 days after the payroll period ended.

1566
02:05:21,620 --> 02:05:24,760
That is important. Certified payroll is not just paperwork.

1567
02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:30,880
work. It is one of the main records used to show who worked on the public works project,

1568
02:05:31,360 --> 02:05:36,220
what classifications that were reported under, how many hours they worked, whether overtime

1569
02:05:36,220 --> 02:05:42,660
was reported, and what wages were paid. When those records are submitted months later,

1570
02:05:43,120 --> 02:05:47,920
the ability to verify compliance while the work is actually happening is greatly reduced.

1571
02:05:47,920 --> 02:06:16,420
We also compared Moniposa's recent PWC 100 project history against its identifiable ECPR history after applying the maintenance reporting threshold and excluding city of Los Angeles projects from the comparison we identified 20 recent project IDs that require review only one exact project ID appeared in the ECPR we reviewed for the other 19 upload history under that project number was not identified.

1572
02:06:16,420 --> 02:06:21,280
Okay. That does not automatically mean a violation occurred. There may be another project

1573
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:28,060
number, another exemption, the work may have not started yet. There may have not. There

1574
02:06:28,060 --> 02:06:31,260
may have also been a subcontractor, not identical.

1575
02:06:33,380 --> 02:06:35,680
But those are exactly the questions that we

1576
02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:41,300
should be answered, that should be answered before the city moves forward. Staff has described

1577
02:06:41,300 --> 02:06:46,580
money post as the highest-ranked proposal and relied on its municipal experience, staffing,

1578
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:51,740
safety, culture, operational resources, and positive references. Those things matter,

1579
02:06:52,340 --> 02:06:57,800
but being able to perform treework where we have a verifiable public works compliance history

1580
02:06:57,800 --> 02:07:03,340
are two different things. Thanks, thanks, thanks. A responsible contractor should leave behind a clear

1581
02:07:03,340 --> 02:07:08,200
and timely record that allows the agency to verify the workforce, the classifications, the wages,

1582
02:07:08,200 --> 02:07:10,540
It's just the hours and the subcontractor involvement.

1583
02:07:11,140 --> 02:07:16,240
Council does not, your time's up sir, sir, sir, sir, your time's up.

1584
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:17,380
You have three minutes.

1585
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:18,920
We have a bunch of minutes for us.

1586
02:07:19,380 --> 02:07:22,620
I understand that we started in my three minutes, didn't we?

1587
02:07:23,240 --> 02:07:24,480
Yeah, so your time is up, sir.

1588
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:27,520
You can submit that for the record, if you'd like.

1589
02:07:29,380 --> 02:07:30,880
Okay, great, very good, very good.

1590
02:07:33,980 --> 02:07:40,300
You can, I agree with you, I understand, but you had the full three minutes and you continued.

1591
02:07:40,300 --> 02:07:58,640
So my apologies to you. This was not intentional, but I do have some questions for him if I can. Not now. Yeah. And let's just just start the three minutes over again. Okay. Welcome sir. You have three minutes.

1592
02:07:58,640 --> 02:08:01,660
Okay, yeah, and let's just keep our fingers crossed, okay?

1593
02:08:02,740 --> 02:08:03,220
Welcome.

1594
02:08:03,660 --> 02:08:04,920
Thank you.

1595
02:08:05,120 --> 02:08:05,660
Good evening.

1596
02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:06,320
Mayor, I'm sorry.

1597
02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:07,280
Can you hold on just a second.

1598
02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:08,420
We got to get the timer going.

1599
02:08:13,700 --> 02:08:14,120
Okay, okay.

1600
02:08:14,180 --> 02:08:16,180
Good evening, Mayor and members of City Council.

1601
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:19,340
My name is Nicolago, Vice President of West Coast Arborist.

1602
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:22,940
Tonight, we respectfully ask the Council to award the City

1603
02:08:22,940 --> 02:08:25,300
Tree Maintenance and Contract to WCA.

1604
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:29,060
If the Council is not prepared to award the contract to WCA,

1605
02:08:29,340 --> 02:08:31,960
then reject all proposals and rebid the project.

1606
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:37,260
WCA received a lower score for not submitting a Philip's Ranch Fuel Mitigation Plan.

1607
02:08:37,740 --> 02:08:43,440
However, page 18 of the RFP states that the successful contractor shall provide the plan

1608
02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:46,260
within 30 days after the contract execution.

1609
02:08:46,800 --> 02:08:50,820
It was a post-award obligation not a required proposal submission.

1610
02:08:51,700 --> 02:08:55,600
WCA was penalized for not submitting a post-award requirement,

1611
02:08:55,960 --> 02:08:59,100
while Mariposa received additional credit for submitting it early.

1612
02:08:59,100 --> 02:09:03,840
That requirement was never identified as part of the proposal or scoring criteria.

1613
02:09:04,560 --> 02:09:10,600
When WCA's improper deduction and Maripost's additional credit are corrected, WCA is

1614
02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:14,500
the highest scoring proposal based on the city's own evaluation process.

1615
02:09:14,900 --> 02:09:17,360
The contract should therefore be awarded to WCA.

1616
02:09:18,060 --> 02:09:23,540
After the July 20 motion to award to Maripost have failed, the mayor called the situation

1617
02:09:23,540 --> 02:09:27,000
and I quote, not the best example of good governance.

1618
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:31,460
And stated that the item would return through a new RFP process.

1619
02:09:32,300 --> 02:09:37,460
The council and the public were told by the mayor and the city attorney that the new competitive RFP would follow.

1620
02:09:37,780 --> 02:09:40,500
With emergency services used only in the interim.

1621
02:09:41,300 --> 02:09:51,620
Instead, staff revived the same procurement issued Mariposa $100,000 emergency purchase order after the city council rejected the contract award to Mariposa.

1622
02:09:51,620 --> 02:09:57,660
and proposed a retroactive award supported partly by Mariposa's later performance.

1623
02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:05,200
That is inconsistent with the city's July 20th statements and gave Mariposa an opportunity, no other proposal received.

1624
02:10:06,540 --> 02:10:14,220
WCA offered to continue serving Pomona during the rebuild at its existing contract prices, which are lower than Mariposa's proposed rates.

1625
02:10:15,040 --> 02:10:19,620
WCA is a union contractor that has safely served Pomona for more than 25 years.

1626
02:10:19,620 --> 02:10:25,700
We provide family supporting union wages, benefits, employ Pomona residents and have the

1627
02:10:25,700 --> 02:10:30,140
trained workforce and equipment and emergency response capability to serve the city immediately.

1628
02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:36,520
We also created and maintained Pomona's tree inventory and more than 25 years of historical

1629
02:10:36,520 --> 02:10:37,320
maintenance records.

1630
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:42,920
We respectfully ask the council to recognize and correct the improper Phillips ranch scoring

1631
02:10:42,920 --> 02:10:48,600
and award the contract to WCA as the highest ranked best value proposal under the established

1632
02:10:48,600 --> 02:10:54,380
evaluation criteria. If the council is not prepared to do so tonight, we ask that it reject

1633
02:10:54,380 --> 02:10:59,440
all proposals and direct staff to conduct a fair, transparent, and competitive rebuild.

1634
02:10:59,900 --> 02:11:04,220
Award the contract to WCA or rebuild the project fairly. Thank you.

1635
02:11:04,380 --> 02:11:05,600
Thank you. All right.

1636
02:11:10,620 --> 02:11:17,260
Joshua Sanchez, Dennis Jones, Tony Martinez, and Isaiah Robles.

1637
02:11:17,260 --> 02:11:23,540
if you'll please come on up. Welcome sir, you have three minutes. Good morning mayor and members

1638
02:11:23,540 --> 02:11:29,580
of the City Council. My name is Joshua Sanchez, and I am a Pomona resident, and I have proudly

1639
02:11:29,580 --> 02:11:35,940
worked for West Coast Arbours for the past five years. I spoke at the last City Council meeting because

1640
02:11:35,940 --> 02:11:37,560
this contract is important to me.

1641
02:11:39,620 --> 02:11:43,220
I live here, my family lives here, and I take pride in the work

1642
02:11:43,220 --> 02:11:45,240
that I do for this city, my city.

1643
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:50,900
Over the years, our crews have gotten to know Pomona and the trees very well.

1644
02:11:51,500 --> 02:11:57,320
We know the neighborhoods, we know what city expects from us, what the city expects from

1645
02:11:57,320 --> 02:12:02,420
us, and when there is an emergency or special request, we are here to help.

1646
02:12:04,140 --> 02:12:12,660
Tonight I respectfully ask that the council, tonight I respectfully ask the city council to

1647
02:12:12,660 --> 02:12:15,080
to consider awarding the contract to West Coast Arbours.

1648
02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:18,140
You know our work, our commitment to safety

1649
02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:22,120
and the service we have proud provided to Pomona.

1650
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:25,380
If the council is not comfortable making an award

1651
02:12:25,380 --> 02:12:27,680
based on the current process,

1652
02:12:28,300 --> 02:12:30,680
then I respectfully ask that you reject proposals

1653
02:12:31,220 --> 02:12:33,720
and rebate the contract so everyone has

1654
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:35,460
another fair opportunity to compete.

1655
02:12:36,600 --> 02:12:39,780
As a Pomona resident and West Coast Arbours employee,

1656
02:12:39,780 --> 02:12:46,900
I am proud of what I have done for this community, and I hope that we are given the opportunity

1657
02:12:46,900 --> 02:12:47,700
to continue.

1658
02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:49,220
Thank you for your time on your consideration.

1659
02:12:49,680 --> 02:12:49,980
Thank you.

1660
02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:51,100
All right.

1661
02:12:52,100 --> 02:12:52,620
There's Jones.

1662
02:12:59,700 --> 02:13:00,380
Welcome, sir.

1663
02:13:00,460 --> 02:13:00,860
You have a few minutes.

1664
02:13:02,120 --> 02:13:04,500
Good evening, Mayor and members of the City Council.

1665
02:13:05,500 --> 02:13:08,620
My name is Dennis Jones, the Vice President of Mariposa Tree Management.

1666
02:13:09,500 --> 02:13:12,920
We currently provide tree services to the following cities.

1667
02:13:13,260 --> 02:13:13,740
Pasadena.

1668
02:13:14,580 --> 02:13:15,100
Samarino.

1669
02:13:15,100 --> 02:13:19,840
Los Angeles, Thousand Oaks, Burbank, Santa Barbara,

1670
02:13:20,480 --> 02:13:24,260
Temecula, Paris, Laundale, Port Winemey, and Huntington Park.

1671
02:13:25,760 --> 02:13:29,640
One of the biggest unknowns whenever a city considers switching a contractor,

1672
02:13:30,180 --> 02:13:32,660
is how that contractor will respond in a real emergency.

1673
02:13:33,560 --> 02:13:36,560
Since July, when we were given the emergency PO,

1674
02:13:37,140 --> 02:13:40,860
we've responded to 27 emergency calls within the city.

1675
02:13:41,340 --> 02:13:45,140
And we've been on site in under 45 minutes on every single one of them.

1676
02:13:46,040 --> 02:13:49,900
Early mornings, late nights, Sunday mornings, we've been there.

1677
02:13:51,080 --> 02:13:55,760
There was no contract to acquiring it of it, requiring it of it, so we just didn't think it was right to say no.

1678
02:13:57,060 --> 02:14:00,800
Your staff here evaluated every proposal on its merits and

1679
02:14:00,800 --> 02:14:04,220
recommended Mariposa Tree Management as the top choice for this contract.

1680
02:14:04,940 --> 02:14:10,260
We respectfully ask this council to honor that work and the work our crews have already been doing in this community.

1681
02:14:10,260 --> 02:14:12,100
by awarding us the RFP.

1682
02:14:12,640 --> 02:14:15,080
Thank you, and I'm here to answer any questions you might have later.

1683
02:14:15,460 --> 02:14:16,300
Thank you.

1684
02:14:17,180 --> 02:14:18,760
Tony, so forgive me, Tony Martinez.

1685
02:14:23,500 --> 02:14:24,380
Welcome Mr. Martinez.

1686
02:14:25,880 --> 02:14:26,460
Thank you.

1687
02:14:27,080 --> 02:14:28,760
Good evening mayor, members of the City Council.

1688
02:14:28,940 --> 02:14:32,300
My name is Tony Martinez, I'm the founder of North Star Land Care.

1689
02:14:33,560 --> 02:14:40,220
Tonight you have two choices, award this contract to Mariposa, or allow competition, another opportunity.

1690
02:14:41,140 --> 02:14:46,080
I leave you with three thoughts, cost, capability, and opportunity.

1691
02:14:47,140 --> 02:14:54,360
First, cost, nor starts proposal was more than 900,000 below merit poses, nearly $1 million.

1692
02:14:54,360 --> 02:14:59,820
dollars. Before Pomona commits to those additional tax

1693
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:07,340
Fair dollars, I respectfully ask. What is Pomona receiving for that additional million dollars?

1694
02:15:10,900 --> 02:15:30,800
If that question has not been clearly answered, going back to bid, is the responsible choice? Second, capability. Norstar is a Los Angeles County based union company with experienced professionals and modern AQMD compliant equipment.

1695
02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:36,500
We have 100-foot aerial lift capable of reaching Pomona's tallest palms.

1696
02:15:37,120 --> 02:15:42,780
We also bring fuel modification experience from our work with the Puente Hills Habitat

1697
02:15:42,780 --> 02:15:49,620
Authority, experience that can directly benefit areas such as Phillips Ranch.

1698
02:15:51,240 --> 02:15:52,900
And our philosophy is simple.

1699
02:15:53,840 --> 02:15:57,000
Manage risk while preserving the urban forest.

1700
02:15:57,000 --> 02:16:08,640
That means protecting residents while preserving the historic trees and places that give Pomona its character, places like Ganesha Park.

1701
02:16:09,740 --> 02:16:11,220
Finally, opportunity.

1702
02:16:12,340 --> 02:16:18,160
Council members, rejecting these proposals tonight doesn't mean rejecting tree care.

1703
02:16:19,120 --> 02:16:23,760
It means giving competition another chance to work for Pomona.

1704
02:16:23,760 --> 02:16:32,260
Nearly $1 million is too much money to leave unanswered.

1705
02:16:32,560 --> 02:16:38,980
Give qualified companies another opportunity to compete, give staff an opportunity to strengthen

1706
02:16:38,980 --> 02:16:47,880
the RFP, and give Pomona taxpayers the opportunity to receive exceptional tree care at a responsible

1707
02:16:47,880 --> 02:16:48,300
price.

1708
02:16:49,220 --> 02:16:53,940
Today, I respectfully ask you, don't spend the additional million dollars yet.

1709
02:16:55,760 --> 02:17:00,300
If not awarding to North Star, then rebid the contract.

1710
02:17:00,900 --> 02:17:06,320
Let competition determine what Pomona's best value truly is.

1711
02:17:06,900 --> 02:17:07,480
Thank you.

1712
02:17:08,020 --> 02:17:08,260
Thank you.

1713
02:17:08,720 --> 02:17:11,540
Isaiah Romas, our final speaker.

1714
02:17:12,120 --> 02:17:14,300
By the way, that's the final card that I have.

1715
02:17:14,420 --> 02:17:16,300
Did anybody else submit a card that I didn't call?

1716
02:17:17,740 --> 02:17:18,860
I'm not seeing anyone.

1717
02:17:19,880 --> 02:17:22,020
Okay, Mr. Robles, you are our final speaker.

1718
02:17:22,420 --> 02:17:22,760
Welcome, sir.

1719
02:17:23,600 --> 02:17:25,600
Good evening, honorable mayor and city council members.

1720
02:17:26,200 --> 02:17:28,240
My name is Isaiah Robles, and I'm the sergeant at arms

1721
02:17:28,240 --> 02:17:30,460
of the local, the Laborers International Union

1722
02:17:30,460 --> 02:17:31,720
of North America, local 300.

1723
02:17:32,320 --> 02:17:34,040
I'm here representing our business manager,

1724
02:17:34,180 --> 02:17:36,720
Serge Raskorn, and the over 8,000 members

1725
02:17:36,720 --> 02:17:38,040
that live in Los Angeles County,

1726
02:17:38,340 --> 02:17:41,580
if you're 100 of which live here and work in the city of Pomona.

1727
02:17:42,580 --> 02:17:44,560
Local 300 strongly urges you once again

1728
02:17:44,560 --> 02:17:48,320
to award this contractor contract to a responsible union contractor,

1729
02:17:48,840 --> 02:17:52,620
one who stands for the rights of working people, takes pride in the high quality union work,

1730
02:17:52,860 --> 02:17:56,120
and actively takes part in helping other workers reach the middle class.

1731
02:17:56,900 --> 02:17:59,160
Your team created an impressive point system for the RFP,

1732
02:17:59,400 --> 02:18:01,900
but it feels to capture important aspects of the public works contracts,

1733
02:18:02,540 --> 02:18:05,140
the men and women who put their boots on every day to do the work.

1734
02:18:05,980 --> 02:18:09,060
Preventing wages are union wages, but they're not the same.

1735
02:18:10,460 --> 02:18:13,580
Union employees, many of which live in this city, and vote in its elections,

1736
02:18:14,240 --> 02:18:18,560
receive health insurance and a strong pension, which directly lead to a future

1737
02:18:18,560 --> 02:18:23,940
that the moon can be proud of. That's unheard of in this day and age, and even more so for non-union workers.

1738
02:18:25,080 --> 02:18:28,720
Local 300 strongly urges you to do the right thing for your city residents and

1739
02:18:29,160 --> 02:18:33,120
give them an opportunity to continue to work for a union company that can offer

1740
02:18:33,120 --> 02:18:37,220
your residents upward social and economic mobility and a strong path to the middle class.

1741
02:18:37,620 --> 02:18:37,900
Thank you.

1742
02:18:40,060 --> 02:18:42,200
that's our final speaker.

1743
02:18:42,940 --> 02:18:44,760
Do we have anybody online?

1744
02:18:45,680 --> 02:18:46,800
And are we going to be able to do it?

1745
02:18:47,420 --> 02:18:49,060
We do have two hands raised, Mayor.

1746
02:18:49,780 --> 02:18:51,100
Okay, so bear with us.

1747
02:18:51,440 --> 02:18:52,680
We're going to give this a try, okay?

1748
02:18:54,780 --> 02:18:55,100
All right.

1749
02:18:55,460 --> 02:18:57,880
For remote participants that have your hand raised,

1750
02:18:58,140 --> 02:18:59,360
please listen for your name.

1751
02:18:59,760 --> 02:19:00,960
For your turn to speak.

1752
02:19:02,840 --> 02:19:04,560
Speaker Cynthia Cabello.

1753
02:19:05,040 --> 02:19:06,900
Zalada, can you unmute yourself?

1754
02:19:08,700 --> 02:19:16,460
It's your second. Can you hear me? Yes. You have three minutes. Thank you. Good evening, Mayor

1755
02:19:16,460 --> 02:19:21,840
Sandoval City Council Member, staff, residents and community members. My name is Dr. Cynthia

1756
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:27,840
Cabello Salada and my family and I have been residents of Lincoln Park since 2017. I have to say it's

1757
02:19:27,840 --> 02:19:32,680
been a great experience for me and my family. We have been in need of City Public Services from time

1758
02:19:32,680 --> 02:19:36,300
time to time and I cannot complain the city has been responsive and quick.

1759
02:19:37,160 --> 02:19:40,800
Today you are discussing item 18 over tree care.

1760
02:19:41,440 --> 02:19:44,160
It's ironic that my emergency happened last night.

1761
02:19:44,800 --> 02:19:49,360
I am now experiencing an emergency in my home because of lack of maintenance on trees

1762
02:19:49,360 --> 02:19:50,760
in the Lincoln Park area.

1763
02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:53,020
The historical district in the city.

1764
02:19:53,640 --> 02:19:57,780
I am unclear as to why this item is only specifically mentioning Phillips ranch.

1765
02:19:58,780 --> 02:20:01,260
Item 18 is all about a contract for tree management.

1766
02:20:01,260 --> 02:20:06,120
The staff report states that this has been an ongoing stall decision for over a year.

1767
02:20:06,760 --> 02:20:11,700
I am an educator with 31 years experience, a local taxpayer, and homeowner

1768
02:20:11,700 --> 02:20:16,180
that is now dealing with the direct repercussions of the city's lack of decision-making and delay.

1769
02:20:17,020 --> 02:20:20,680
However, this may only be an accurate statement for Philip's ranch.

1770
02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:26,280
In the past, our city arborists have relayed that the wonderful old Canford trees on Pasadena Street

1771
02:20:26,280 --> 02:20:28,320
were protected and city property.

1772
02:20:28,320 --> 02:20:33,840
Today, I learned that lateral sewer lines under city sidewalks, public area, and street

1773
02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:34,840
belongs to me.

1774
02:20:35,740 --> 02:20:40,600
I also learned those same trees have caused damage to my lateral sewer line.

1775
02:20:41,160 --> 02:20:47,160
I now subsequently have a $30,000 expense that I must take care of in order to inhabit my

1776
02:20:47,160 --> 02:20:50,540
home in the Lincoln Park area, not Phillips Ranch.

1777
02:20:51,200 --> 02:20:55,140
We also have an urban forest, perhaps it's not in the right side of town.

1778
02:20:55,700 --> 02:20:57,860
As you can imagine, this is not okay.

1779
02:20:58,340 --> 02:21:03,920
If I break something, I am responsible for it, which is why I believe because your tree

1780
02:21:03,920 --> 02:21:06,900
broke my sewer line, you should pay for it.

1781
02:21:07,420 --> 02:21:10,540
I have sent an email to all council members and the mayor.

1782
02:21:11,120 --> 02:21:16,740
I look forward to hearing from you for possible solutions to this debt that I feel is the responsibility

1783
02:21:17,160 --> 02:21:17,800
of the city.

1784
02:21:18,260 --> 02:21:18,580
Thank you.

1785
02:21:22,920 --> 02:21:23,820
Thank you, Speaker.

1786
02:21:23,820 --> 02:21:27,880
The next speaker is Victoria at Housing Action Coalition.

1787
02:21:28,100 --> 02:21:30,160
Please unmute yourself and it's your turn to speak.

1788
02:21:35,130 --> 02:21:36,130
Victoria, can you hear me?

1789
02:21:46,130 --> 02:21:47,530
Victoria, it's your turn to speak.

1790
02:21:48,010 --> 02:21:48,490
Can you hear me?

1791
02:21:59,000 --> 02:21:59,760
Let's go ahead and move on.

1792
02:22:00,140 --> 02:22:04,120
I think we've given ample time to try to give the speaker

1793
02:22:04,120 --> 02:22:04,900
an opportunity to speak.

1794
02:22:06,060 --> 02:22:08,460
And was this the same person that spoke earlier

1795
02:22:09,200 --> 02:22:10,740
on the non-agentized item?

1796
02:22:10,940 --> 02:22:11,360
Yes, it was.

1797
02:22:11,580 --> 02:22:12,380
Okay, okay.

1798
02:22:13,040 --> 02:22:16,280
All right, so that concludes public comments.

1799
02:22:16,280 --> 02:22:19,800
Now I'll give my colleagues an opportunity to speak, ask questions.

1800
02:22:20,480 --> 02:22:22,740
So first up is Councilman Garcia.

1801
02:22:26,500 --> 02:22:27,000
Thank you, Mayor.

1802
02:22:27,880 --> 02:22:34,080
I was not present for the July 20th meeting and the comments I would have made at that time are not appropriate now.

1803
02:22:34,560 --> 02:22:38,920
So I will say only this, I don't hold with evergreen contracts.

1804
02:22:39,560 --> 02:22:47,540
And the fact that this is a process that's a long time coming, really speaks to the changing needs of the city.

1805
02:22:47,540 --> 02:22:52,220
This is a matter of service to the community and community safety.

1806
02:22:53,200 --> 02:23:00,400
To enter the winter season with wind and rain without a tree contract, in my opinion, is irresponsible.

1807
02:23:01,560 --> 02:23:07,680
There are trees all over the city, including town, Laverne and Gary, which need attention.

1808
02:23:08,560 --> 02:23:13,500
This weekend, I reported a large tree limb had fallen near the Pomona Public Library.

1809
02:23:14,220 --> 02:23:19,140
for those of you who are not aware our beautiful civic center trees are as old

1810
02:23:19,140 --> 02:23:23,540
as the civic center itself and a few of them have fallen in the last five years

1811
02:23:23,540 --> 02:23:29,220
or so. I asked staff to please remove the trim the limb and to check out the

1812
02:23:29,220 --> 02:23:33,240
trees to make sure that none of them were going to fall and I was told that no such

1813
02:23:33,240 --> 02:23:38,980
assessment could be done without a tree contract. This is unacceptable to me and

1814
02:23:38,980 --> 02:23:46,060
and Pomona cannot wait. I do not know what happened on the 20th. I was shocked to return from my

1815
02:23:46,060 --> 02:23:53,420
daughter watching vacation to find out that there was such a controversy. I could really say

1816
02:23:53,420 --> 02:23:55,680
a lot more about what I believe are.

1817
02:23:58,280 --> 02:23:59,740
How can I say this?

1818
02:24:02,210 --> 02:24:06,170
Pressuring tactics by people that are

1819
02:24:06,170 --> 02:24:15,150
are currently abitting for this and I do not hold with anything that has, that in my

1820
02:24:15,150 --> 02:24:20,870
opinion, should not have occurred. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to urge

1821
02:24:20,870 --> 02:24:27,230
our city council to please adopt recommendation number two and move this matter forward.

1822
02:24:28,030 --> 02:24:35,450
I don't understand why taking care of our trees when our residents talk to us every day in

1823
02:24:35,450 --> 02:24:42,230
person online about tree maintenance and tree limbs and how ugly the palms look, why

1824
02:24:42,230 --> 02:24:48,690
we would say no to a contract that so clearly fulfills the needs of the city and keeps

1825
02:24:48,690 --> 02:24:56,510
us within budget. This is an ideal for me of an RFP because it meets the needs of the

1826
02:24:56,510 --> 02:25:03,630
city and it keeps us between budget. That is rare. So I would really urge my fellow council

1827
02:25:03,630 --> 02:25:09,350
members to think about the safety of the community as we enter El Nino, as we enter the

1828
02:25:09,350 --> 02:25:15,990
winter and really award this project now. We have two years and then we get to evaluate.

1829
02:25:17,030 --> 02:25:23,990
But again, in my opinion, someone should not just keep getting a contract because they have

1830
02:25:23,990 --> 02:25:30,390
a track record with the city. It should be competitive as so many people have said earlier this evening.

1831
02:25:30,770 --> 02:25:33,350
And that is all I'm going to say on this matter. Thank you.

1832
02:25:33,630 --> 02:25:33,750
Thank you.

1833
02:25:34,390 --> 02:25:38,070
I'm going to go to Council Member Lestro and then Vice-Mirror-Pennos.

1834
02:25:39,390 --> 02:25:40,210
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1835
02:25:41,590 --> 02:25:45,370
Meg, just one question before my comments, thank you.

1836
02:25:46,170 --> 02:25:56,130
On the one slide, you talked about what was being proposed by or was included in the RFP

1837
02:25:56,130 --> 02:26:01,530
with respect to putting Phillips Ranch on a 10-year grid trend schedule.

1838
02:26:01,530 --> 02:26:10,870
If, at some point in the near future, homeowners are able to connect the dots through a potential

1839
02:26:10,870 --> 02:26:21,490
new proposal to increase the annual assessment in the Infilips Ranch and it passes, can

1840
02:26:23,140 --> 02:26:30,670
the contract be amended midstream, for lack of a better way to put it, if there is more

1841
02:26:30,670 --> 02:26:34,990
more money available to potentially increase that frequency.

1842
02:26:36,130 --> 02:26:38,050
I would assume the answer is yes.

1843
02:26:38,510 --> 02:26:45,530
The contractor could respond to that but we could do an amendment and we would ensure that it was at the regular trim price.

1844
02:26:45,810 --> 02:26:45,930
Sure.

1845
02:26:46,250 --> 02:26:46,610
So yes.

1846
02:26:46,970 --> 02:26:47,850
Okay. All right.

1847
02:26:48,110 --> 02:26:48,330
Thank you.

1848
02:26:48,430 --> 02:26:49,930
Thank you. That was the only question I had.

1849
02:26:53,260 --> 02:26:57,180
I want to thank my colleague Council member Garcia for her comments.

1850
02:26:58,900 --> 02:27:09,580
I'll apologize in advance for my brutally candid comments, but I think it's an embarrassment

1851
02:27:09,580 --> 02:27:12,940
that we did not take an action on this on July 20th.

1852
02:27:14,120 --> 02:27:23,500
I mentioned at that meeting that I felt that the process through which all of the contractors

1853
02:27:23,500 --> 02:27:34,980
went through in response to a very detailed and clear RFP, which I felt was a fair, transparent,

1854
02:27:35,360 --> 02:27:41,840
and equitable process. It was a very easy decision for me. We were looking at a recommendation

1855
02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:49,200
to award a five-year contract at that particular meeting and has been discussed earlier this evening

1856
02:27:49,200 --> 02:27:49,660
it failed.

1857
02:27:52,120 --> 02:28:01,780
Our parks division gets complaints from the community and from the seven people

1858
02:28:01,780 --> 02:28:06,980
sitting up here on a regular basis with respect to tree maintenance. Councilmember Garcia talked

1859
02:28:06,980 --> 02:28:14,120
about that a little bit earlier. That is one of their two top issues that they have to

1860
02:28:14,120 --> 02:28:21,400
address on a daily basis with respect to maintenance in our parks and our streets in our

1861
02:28:21,400 --> 02:28:34,080
common areas. And that we only have an emergency contract in place right now for a tree inventory

1862
02:28:34,080 --> 02:28:42,680
of 36,000 trees, and that it would take nine to 12 months to go through this process again

1863
02:28:42,680 --> 02:28:53,920
and be without a contract in my opinion unacceptable and irresponsible of this council to basically choose that option.

1864
02:28:56,400 --> 02:29:01,540
I have tree issues come up in my district all the time. I know my colleagues have the same.

1865
02:29:02,520 --> 02:29:05,040
Our residents have issues come up from time to time.

1866
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:16,240
and if it is not an emergency issue that we can't respond to through our current contract,

1867
02:29:17,600 --> 02:29:25,060
then we're not doing our job in providing the service that should be provided to the community.

1868
02:29:25,760 --> 02:29:33,100
So for those reasons, and the reasons I mentioned at the July 20th meeting, I can only support

1869
02:29:33,100 --> 02:29:38,620
option number two, that is being presented by staff this evening.

1870
02:29:39,120 --> 02:29:40,000
Thank you.

1871
02:29:40,460 --> 02:29:41,400
Thank you.

1872
02:29:41,760 --> 02:29:44,500
Vice Mayor Canellas and then Councilmember Annamarovsko.

1873
02:29:48,680 --> 02:29:54,040
I do respect the input from our staff and your recommendation.

1874
02:29:54,980 --> 02:29:59,220
But my question is, so right now we're only on an emergency contract.

1875
02:29:59,220 --> 02:29:59,960
That means that we...

1876
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:29,980
We cannot fulfill any requests that are done at this point right now. That's correct. We're only responding to emergencies. So if it's not an emergency, like the lady who had spoke earlier, that was an emergency that could not be addressed. Well, the sewer lateral lady. Yes. That's a separate issue. That's a long term maintenance where the roots are impacting her sewer line under her property. So that's not really, I'm assuming she probably wants the tree removed. That's not about whether or not she has a

1877
02:30:29,980 --> 02:30:31,640
a limb drop or anything like that.

1878
02:30:32,120 --> 02:30:39,780
And we did mention that we will go to a two-year assessment, basically.

1879
02:30:40,020 --> 02:30:44,980
And so if it's not successful, will it go back to bid?

1880
02:30:45,560 --> 02:30:48,020
It would follow that process as well.

1881
02:30:48,060 --> 02:30:53,140
So we'll go back to put requesting for new bids to be submitted.

1882
02:30:53,780 --> 02:30:59,140
If we were finding that the contractor was not performing, we may, like I mentioned, I've

1883
02:30:59,140 --> 02:31:03,460
been here long enough, I've had several contracts where we've had to fail them, and we've had

1884
02:31:03,460 --> 02:31:07,920
to terminate those contracts. So if we were finding within that two-year period that they

1885
02:31:07,920 --> 02:31:12,940
were not performing, we absolutely would be looking to do that. The hope is that they

1886
02:31:12,940 --> 02:31:17,380
are successful. But if they are successful and Council still wanted us to look at doing

1887
02:31:17,380 --> 02:31:22,400
something else, we absolutely would be doing that within the two-year process. Because we'll

1888
02:31:22,400 --> 02:31:28,680
be coming back to you to say, either we think they're successful or we don't, and if we think

1889
02:31:28,680 --> 02:31:29,320
I think they're successful.

1890
02:31:29,320 --> 02:31:32,300
We'd be asking for your support in improving an amendment.

1891
02:31:32,840 --> 02:31:34,320
And how will that be determined?

1892
02:31:34,740 --> 02:31:40,880
It would be brought in front of City Council probably in enough time to allow us to do that RFP process.

1893
02:31:41,720 --> 02:31:46,660
And then at that point, it would take a long process for to re-bid again.

1894
02:31:47,680 --> 02:31:54,880
And if the contractor was not successful, it would just like any other contract where it wasn't working.

1895
02:31:54,880 --> 02:31:57,600
It would go through a normal procurement process.

1896
02:32:00,270 --> 02:32:01,390
Okay, thank you.

1897
02:32:01,670 --> 02:32:03,110
Thank you.

1898
02:32:03,710 --> 02:32:04,770
Councilor Ann Arvers, cool.

1899
02:32:11,700 --> 02:32:12,320
I have a question.

1900
02:32:12,520 --> 02:32:18,080
Is it possible, Ms. Megan, yes, or Ms. McWade?

1901
02:32:18,520 --> 02:32:24,640
If we could possibly hear Mr. Garcia again with all that confusion, I was very confused as

1902
02:32:24,640 --> 02:32:32,160
to how he was, you know, the vocalness was not appropriate for me to understand exactly

1903
02:32:32,160 --> 02:32:34,740
what he was trying to let us know.

1904
02:32:35,380 --> 02:32:37,160
And there was a lot of interruption.

1905
02:32:37,340 --> 02:32:39,060
Is that possible for him to come back up?

1906
02:32:39,160 --> 02:32:40,140
I would defer to the mayor.

1907
02:32:42,680 --> 02:32:44,020
So I can understand it better.

1908
02:32:45,280 --> 02:32:48,160
Yes, I'll do it, but I'm not giving him just,

1909
02:32:48,640 --> 02:32:51,420
I'm not unleashing him to just speak, okay?

1910
02:32:52,020 --> 02:32:53,700
I'll give him an additional minute to speak

1911
02:32:54,880 --> 02:32:57,020
because, and I understand his concern is that

1912
02:32:57,020 --> 02:32:58,300
it was kind of hard to have a flow.

1913
02:32:59,600 --> 02:33:00,780
But it's all so.

1914
02:33:12,080 --> 02:33:20,080
Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. It's I think it's working now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll I'll be happy to give them one. That's it.

1915
02:33:39,620 --> 02:33:45,860
I'll be happy to give them one. That's it.

1916
02:33:45,860 --> 02:33:52,560
The work force, the classifications, the wages, the hours, and the subcontractor involvement.

1917
02:33:53,360 --> 02:33:57,120
Council does not need to decide tonight that Mariposa did anything wrong.

1918
02:33:57,680 --> 02:34:04,000
We're simply asking you to make sure these compliance questions are answered before the city enters into a long term contract.

1919
02:34:04,820 --> 02:34:06,760
The agenda gives you that option tonight.

1920
02:34:07,240 --> 02:34:12,340
We respectfully ask that you continue the item and direct staff to verify the project numbers.

1921
02:34:12,340 --> 02:34:15,300
is the date's work, the ECPR submission history,

1922
02:34:15,640 --> 02:34:18,320
like any exemptions, any subcontractor reporting,

1923
02:34:18,720 --> 02:34:20,760
and the reference checks used to support

1924
02:34:20,760 --> 02:34:23,360
the contractor's responsibility determination.

1925
02:34:23,900 --> 02:34:26,400
If everything checks out, the record will show that,

1926
02:34:26,760 --> 02:34:29,140
but the verification should come before the commitment,

1927
02:34:29,380 --> 02:34:30,060
not after it.

1928
02:34:30,640 --> 02:34:30,880
Thank you.

1929
02:34:31,180 --> 02:34:31,380
Thank you.

1930
02:34:31,740 --> 02:34:38,060
So basically, your independence, is that what you're telling me?

1931
02:34:38,620 --> 02:34:40,280
Are you affiliated with any?

1932
02:34:40,280 --> 02:34:42,000
No, not any contractor.

1933
02:34:42,180 --> 02:34:44,140
Okay, so basically you're independent.

1934
02:34:44,460 --> 02:34:44,560
Yes.

1935
02:34:45,060 --> 02:34:45,380
Okay.

1936
02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:51,640
And you base your information on research in regards to

1937
02:34:51,640 --> 02:34:52,540
from state records.

1938
02:34:52,860 --> 02:34:53,720
You might come to the mic.

1939
02:34:54,400 --> 02:34:55,820
From state records.

1940
02:34:55,980 --> 02:34:56,660
From state records.

1941
02:34:56,840 --> 02:34:56,960
Yes.

1942
02:34:57,240 --> 02:35:00,220
We're joint labor management committee so we have

1943
02:35:00,220 --> 02:35:02,220
unredacted access to state records.

1944
02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:03,220
I see.

1945
02:35:03,820 --> 02:35:04,240
Okay.

1946
02:35:04,680 --> 02:35:06,080
Yeah, I was so confused.

1947
02:35:06,280 --> 02:35:09,140
I was trying to listen to you at the same time having a difficult

1948
02:35:09,140 --> 02:35:17,600
time-understanding so okay thank you very much for that thank you so no more

1949
02:35:17,600 --> 02:35:25,920
questions thank you thank you so you know I'm I was just looking through here

1950
02:35:25,920 --> 02:35:36,850
and so there was a five a five-year council member I'm sorry I don't mean it

1951
02:35:36,850 --> 02:35:43,390
interrupt you. Your mic is on, but you're speaking so far away from it. It's not going to capture on the audio if you just move a little bit closer.

1952
02:35:44,370 --> 02:35:51,530
Do you how much closer can I get? I don't. Can you hear me now? Yes, that's better.

1953
02:35:52,430 --> 02:35:56,170
We don't have a very good audio. I mean, I'm fortunate.

1954
02:35:56,170 --> 02:36:10,130
it. So I was reading down here. I was reading down here the five-year, I guess it's from West

1955
02:36:10,130 --> 02:36:18,730
Coast. Yeah. Okay. And there had been 171 tree-related claims.

1956
02:36:23,080 --> 02:36:23,880
Do you think that's going to work?

1957
02:36:23,880 --> 02:36:35,120
Okay, so I guess I have a question in regards to five years, okay, 171 claims, and this

1958
02:36:35,120 --> 02:36:37,320
is regarding West Coast, correct?

1959
02:36:38,720 --> 02:36:40,660
I'm not certain what you're referring to.

1960
02:36:40,920 --> 02:36:46,760
Okay, there's city's risk management team, reviewed tree related claims, submitted during

1961
02:36:46,760 --> 02:36:50,280
the last five years to provide additional context regarding-

1962
02:36:50,280 --> 02:36:51,120
Oh, I'm sorry, yes.

1963
02:36:51,420 --> 02:36:52,980
Okay, so that's West Coast, correct?

1964
02:36:52,980 --> 02:36:54,580
I thought you were talking about their submittal.

1965
02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:56,160
I'm sorry, it was my...

1966
02:36:56,160 --> 02:36:57,940
Mirror post is not even a picture yet, right?

1967
02:36:58,400 --> 02:37:05,000
So anyway, 171 tree-related claims in five years.

1968
02:37:05,660 --> 02:37:05,800
Yes.

1969
02:37:06,180 --> 02:37:12,040
Is that norm, or is that above average, or is that, you know, for five years?

1970
02:37:12,680 --> 02:37:16,500
That's the data we have, so I don't know if we have a comparison back further.

1971
02:37:16,800 --> 02:37:21,740
I do know that the claims were reducing when we went from the seven-year back to the five

1972
02:37:21,740 --> 02:37:23,960
year, but I don't remember the exact numbers.

1973
02:37:24,480 --> 02:37:29,460
So the more robust your trimming is, you have fewer claims typically.

1974
02:37:30,020 --> 02:37:33,140
Okay, so we've had this company, West Coast, for 25 years.

1975
02:37:33,880 --> 02:37:36,500
We've had them, yes, yes.

1976
02:37:36,980 --> 02:37:41,980
Okay, why did we keep using them?

1977
02:37:43,380 --> 02:37:49,560
I mean, when I start thinking about these things, maybe it's not something that other people think about.

1978
02:37:49,560 --> 02:38:02,280
about 25 years, and we've had 171 related tree claims in five years, but yet we have actually

1979
02:38:03,680 --> 02:38:12,200
agreed upon having them work for the city. We have employees from the city of Pomona,

1980
02:38:12,360 --> 02:38:18,540
who have been with the company five years. I was impressed that he actually took the time to come

1981
02:38:18,540 --> 02:38:22,540
over and let us know that he has been with the company for five years.

1982
02:38:22,700 --> 02:38:30,180
I think that's pretty nice because, you know, we want to keep, we want to make sure we're

1983
02:38:30,180 --> 02:38:31,060
doing the right thing.

1984
02:38:31,220 --> 02:38:35,920
See, this is a, this is the thing, $240,000 in claim payments.

1985
02:38:36,120 --> 02:38:36,380
Okay.

1986
02:38:36,960 --> 02:38:37,340
Okay.

1987
02:38:37,580 --> 02:38:46,240
So, when you say $240,000 of claim payments, is that something that we had to pay out?

1988
02:38:46,620 --> 02:38:47,020
Yes.

1989
02:38:47,020 --> 02:39:13,820
Okay, is that of normal, is that something that, you know, basically, regarding whatever the claim was, you know, falling on a vehicle or, you know, falling in the street, whatever the situation was, the claim itself, we've had a mix of claims and I've had a mix of claims that my other cities as well.

1990
02:39:13,820 --> 02:39:18,800
And they really relate again to the robustness of the trimming that you're doing on a regular basis.

1991
02:39:19,540 --> 02:39:24,320
You ask why we, I'm part of the question of we've used them for 25 years.

1992
02:39:25,260 --> 02:39:32,760
I mentioned earlier that your ability to trim and what you ask for in a contract is often related to the funding you have available.

1993
02:39:33,340 --> 02:39:38,460
So we asked for the minimum grid in a lot of areas where we could, we possibly,

1994
02:39:38,460 --> 02:39:44,220
possibly if we had more funding would have done crown reductions or restorations but we did

1995
02:39:44,220 --> 02:39:48,540
not have the funding to do it. So we kept on the grid cycle with the funding available

1996
02:39:48,540 --> 02:39:53,920
to try to minimize that liability. You'll never wipe it out completely but that's part of the

1997
02:39:53,920 --> 02:40:00,360
reason why we're we like this RFP so much is that it now increases that standard for the standard

1998
02:40:00,360 --> 02:40:07,300
grid trim from the 25% up to 40%. So that will just increase the health of our trees, the structure of

1999
02:40:07,300 --> 02:40:09,820
of our trees, all of those things that lead to claims.

2000
02:40:10,480 --> 02:40:13,420
It won't ever fully eradicate, even if you gave me

2001
02:40:13,420 --> 02:40:15,840
10 more million dollars, which I would love.

2002
02:40:16,020 --> 02:40:17,420
We'd have an amazing tree canopy,

2003
02:40:17,620 --> 02:40:18,760
but we also need it for our roads.

2004
02:40:18,860 --> 02:40:19,740
We'll talk about that later.

2005
02:40:21,180 --> 02:40:23,420
But we will always have some level of claim.

2006
02:40:23,900 --> 02:40:26,560
But the more you get in and do your grid trim

2007
02:40:26,560 --> 02:40:28,500
on a regular cycle, and that's part of the reason

2008
02:40:28,500 --> 02:40:31,760
why we're back in front of you, we are facing El Niño,

2009
02:40:31,960 --> 02:40:34,620
and we really want to stick to a grid trim cycle.

2010
02:40:34,620 --> 02:40:41,920
We want to have a more robust grid, and we want to have more frequent trimming, which is what this contract will get us.

2011
02:40:42,520 --> 02:40:46,300
Okay, so you're dealing, so you're referring to the contract with Metaposa?

2012
02:40:47,260 --> 02:40:48,520
Yes, the RFP.

2013
02:40:48,940 --> 02:40:53,520
Okay, so it doesn't really relate to West Coast or North Star.

2014
02:40:55,800 --> 02:41:05,080
Okay, what I'm saying is, if we say we decided to do something else, say we weren't in favor of doing Metaposa, okay.

2015
02:41:05,080 --> 02:41:20,200
So, but yet, we have the ability to, well, I guess you can say what I'm trying to say is we've mentioned the palm trees from from what five to two years.

2016
02:41:20,800 --> 02:41:22,820
Three, right? Two, two.

2017
02:41:23,060 --> 02:41:23,500
Yes, sorry.

2018
02:41:23,780 --> 02:41:24,400
Okay. Two.

2019
02:41:24,700 --> 02:41:24,840
Yes.

2020
02:41:25,040 --> 02:41:33,140
Right. So, so whatever, whatever the company that is chosen, we would still have that.

2021
02:41:34,000 --> 02:41:35,640
Absolutely, that's the requirement.

2022
02:41:35,880 --> 02:41:38,100
It's not just for one particular company.

2023
02:41:39,520 --> 02:41:41,440
That's something I really wanted to clarify.

2024
02:41:41,700 --> 02:41:42,120
Absolutely.

2025
02:41:44,040 --> 02:41:46,100
There was a lot of stuff to read here.

2026
02:41:52,500 --> 02:41:55,120
Basically, I'm really trying to make some sense of this.

2027
02:42:00,510 --> 02:42:01,890
I'm impressed with all three.

2028
02:42:01,890 --> 02:42:30,370
Okay. But everybody has a preference. Okay. So basically, you know, I don't know much about North Star, but they did impress me at the very, no, the very first meeting, you know, and I really had, I really have had no, no serious problems with West Coast.

2029
02:42:30,370 --> 02:42:36,050
I don't experience anything with West Coast, maybe other people have.

2030
02:42:36,230 --> 02:42:38,090
But so far, I haven't had much of a problem.

2031
02:42:38,910 --> 02:42:44,130
Mariposa, I don't know very much about, I did some research on them.

2032
02:42:45,210 --> 02:42:50,870
They're not as, they don't have as many employees, correct?

2033
02:42:52,290 --> 02:42:57,610
And they deal with several cities, which is impressive.

2034
02:42:58,330 --> 02:43:07,730
But I was just, you know, I'm really trying to get grasp here because being with a company for 25 years is a very long time.

2035
02:43:07,850 --> 02:43:11,190
It's a very, I'm very impressed by that.

2036
02:43:13,070 --> 02:43:21,530
You know, I mean, this is something, you know, working with a company for 25 years is like I work with Pomona Unified for 25 years.

2037
02:43:21,810 --> 02:43:22,690
It's a relationship.

2038
02:43:23,510 --> 02:43:25,710
Okay, so that's all I have to say.

2039
02:43:25,710 --> 02:43:26,770
Okay, thank you.

2040
02:43:27,710 --> 02:43:28,870
Councilmember Martin.

2041
02:43:31,150 --> 02:43:31,710
Thank you.

2042
02:43:31,890 --> 02:43:34,030
I'd like to call up Tony.

2043
02:43:34,710 --> 02:43:36,830
I'd like to ask a couple questions.

2044
02:43:45,670 --> 02:43:46,510
All right, Tony.

2045
02:43:46,890 --> 02:43:47,010
Yes.

2046
02:43:48,150 --> 02:43:51,310
I'm going to ask you, first of all,

2047
02:43:52,150 --> 02:43:55,350
how long have you been a unionized company

2048
02:43:56,190 --> 02:43:59,550
and how many employees are unionized with your company?

2049
02:44:00,530 --> 02:44:09,810
One hundred percent of our employees are unionized and the union would tell you that I would be the only company

2050
02:44:09,810 --> 02:44:17,970
who has ever gone to the union and solicited membership for my staff.

2051
02:44:17,970 --> 02:44:38,810
No other company has ever done that, so since day one, we were unionized because we thought it was important because we started from the bottom and we know how important it is for our staff to have a living wage and to be respected in this industry.

2052
02:44:38,850 --> 02:44:41,210
It's a tough industry. It's a very tough industry.

2053
02:44:41,210 --> 02:44:50,650
And I've been in this industry for over 33 years, and my respect to everybody and anybody who's in this industry, it's not an easy industry.

2054
02:44:51,390 --> 02:44:52,910
So from day one.

2055
02:44:53,610 --> 02:44:57,990
And then how many employees are hired right now?

2056
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:29,980
The city of Pomona, your size in the cycle that you need, you probably need only about 10 to 12 employees, full time all year round to be able to service the city of Pomona tree palms on the cycles as far as the trees as well. The Chinese Elm's crown reduction, I agree with the 25% and 40% I agree with increasing the percentage of trees. I think minimal trimming will get you in trouble. I think we're starting to

2057
02:45:29,980 --> 02:45:32,260
to see that across many counties,

2058
02:45:32,440 --> 02:45:33,760
including Los Angeles County,

2059
02:45:34,360 --> 02:45:37,260
minimum trimming will get you a lot of tree emergencies.

2060
02:45:38,060 --> 02:45:41,860
And I think that's why Dennis from Mariposa

2061
02:45:41,860 --> 02:45:44,200
was saying that they responded to 26 emergencies

2062
02:45:44,200 --> 02:45:45,340
in the last couple of weeks.

2063
02:45:46,300 --> 02:45:48,760
I'm not surprised, but you should be surprised.

2064
02:45:50,400 --> 02:45:52,380
Minimum trimming is not gonna get you

2065
02:45:52,840 --> 02:45:54,420
the city of Pomona, what it means.

2066
02:45:55,060 --> 02:45:57,560
So I do agree with the 25 and the 40%

2067
02:45:57,560 --> 02:46:08,500
of the trimming. What we like to do is we mitigate risk and we're species-specific. Meaning,

2068
02:46:09,000 --> 02:46:16,460
you look at the tree and based on the type of species, then you approach it that way. You can't

2069
02:46:16,460 --> 02:46:21,100
just hold to industry standards of 25 percent. Chinese alms need to be crown-reduced.

2070
02:46:26,680 --> 02:46:27,540
They need to be

2071
02:46:27,540 --> 02:46:28,720
to know the difference.

2072
02:46:29,800 --> 02:46:30,440
Yeah.

2073
02:46:30,980 --> 02:46:31,180
Okay.

2074
02:46:31,660 --> 02:46:32,560
Thank you.

2075
02:46:33,020 --> 02:46:33,340
Thank you.

2076
02:46:33,680 --> 02:46:33,780
Thank you.

2077
02:46:34,880 --> 02:46:35,520
Okay.

2078
02:46:35,900 --> 02:46:36,280
I'm Nick.

2079
02:46:36,660 --> 02:46:37,380
Can you come on up?

2080
02:46:43,060 --> 02:46:44,180
I think that's your name.

2081
02:46:44,400 --> 02:46:44,980
Sorry.

2082
02:46:47,380 --> 02:46:48,660
All right.

2083
02:46:49,080 --> 02:46:50,860
So I'm going to ask you

2084
02:46:51,560 --> 02:46:52,520
similar questions.

2085
02:46:52,900 --> 02:46:54,760
First of all, how long have you been

2086
02:46:54,760 --> 02:46:56,700
a unionized company?

2087
02:46:57,880 --> 02:47:00,140
Probably around about eight years,

2088
02:47:00,340 --> 02:47:00,980
nine years now.

2089
02:47:00,980 --> 02:47:03,900
Okay, and how many employees to you?

2090
02:47:04,520 --> 02:47:07,340
We currently have 1200 employees in the union.

2091
02:47:07,920 --> 02:47:12,760
Okay, and how many cities do you serve us in California?

2092
02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:22,340
Well, we have a total of about 300 cities and total contracts over 400 and we serve

2093
02:47:22,340 --> 02:47:26,840
California, Arizona, Nevada, Texas and New Mexico.

2094
02:47:26,840 --> 02:47:35,760
How do you manage that many employees, you have different yards throughout the state?

2095
02:47:36,980 --> 02:47:41,260
Yes, we have our corporate office in Anaheim.

2096
02:47:41,480 --> 02:47:47,840
We have a big hub in Riverside, big hub in Sacramento, one in Arizona.

2097
02:47:48,740 --> 02:47:54,700
And then we have four regional managers that handle regional managers and vice presidents

2098
02:47:54,700 --> 02:48:06,960
like myself, and we all have about 10 to 12 managers, and I myself oversee 500 employees of the 1200 with about 100 crews.

2099
02:48:07,800 --> 02:48:14,480
So resources are unlimited, especially in what's coming El Nino, we're there and

2100
02:48:14,480 --> 02:48:16,540
can service whatever you need.

2101
02:48:16,780 --> 02:48:20,180
I can mobilize hundreds of people at a time.

2102
02:48:20,180 --> 02:48:23,820
And how many arborists do you have employed?

2103
02:48:24,360 --> 02:48:25,860
Do you have arborists on?

2104
02:48:26,200 --> 02:48:33,860
I think we have the most certified people in the nation as far as tree companies.

2105
02:48:34,260 --> 02:48:37,020
Certified arborist, certified tree worker, master arborist.

2106
02:48:37,460 --> 02:48:45,500
We have I think six master board certified master arborist, municipal arborist, certified arborist, utility arborist.

2107
02:48:46,000 --> 02:48:48,080
We have everything you can name.

2108
02:48:48,080 --> 02:48:55,900
Okay. Let's see. They were talking about, thank you for those answers. They were talking

2109
02:48:55,900 --> 02:49:03,720
about the claims in the last five years where they, it was how much worth a dollar amount

2110
02:49:03,720 --> 02:49:12,780
I apologize. Was it 500,000, 200,000? Dollars worth in the past five years. The question

2111
02:49:12,780 --> 02:49:21,160
is in Pomona, is it mostly root related claims for the trees or it's fallen limbs on cars?

2112
02:49:21,960 --> 02:49:27,200
I would say it's probably falling limbs from what I experienced the limb failures.

2113
02:49:27,400 --> 02:49:31,960
A lot of summer limb drop with Chinese Elms and liquid ambers.

2114
02:49:32,800 --> 02:49:35,140
It's a phenomenon that happens everywhere.

2115
02:49:35,700 --> 02:49:41,920
And as Meg was saying, you know, you're not completely going to eradicate claims.

2116
02:49:41,920 --> 02:49:46,240
These trees are a living organism, they fail, no matter what you do.

2117
02:49:46,700 --> 02:49:50,120
You can cut 40% on them and at times they will fail.

2118
02:49:50,700 --> 02:50:00,060
You can do just the best you can, and mitigating that by cutting more or less according to what the staff is ordering, and that's all you can do.

2119
02:50:00,060 --> 02:50:09,900
And when we're questioned, what was the survey that your company did for the City of Pomona

2120
02:50:09,900 --> 02:50:14,740
with the trees, the forest? Was there something that you helped work on or no?

2121
02:50:15,280 --> 02:50:20,820
While we did a urban forest management plan for Pomona some years ago and we helped them

2122
02:50:20,820 --> 02:50:28,140
develop their tree pallet, we also developed a management plan for Philips Ranch here some

2123
02:50:28,140 --> 02:50:33,520
years ago that I was definitely involved with where because of limited funds, as Meg was

2124
02:50:33,520 --> 02:50:40,300
looting to, we attacked the most important trees that would cause the most damage, which

2125
02:50:40,300 --> 02:50:45,680
are the ones I think we put a buffer zone of about 50 to 100 feet behind all of the property

2126
02:50:45,680 --> 02:50:51,240
owners. That way, if any trees beyond that, if they failed, wouldn't hit any property.

2127
02:50:51,240 --> 02:50:55,660
So we managed to attack those first.

2128
02:50:56,100 --> 02:50:58,000
Okay, thank you.

2129
02:51:01,170 --> 02:51:02,370
That's it.

2130
02:51:02,430 --> 02:51:10,710
All right, I do have some questions and I will understand Councilmember Garcia likes to

2131
02:51:10,710 --> 02:51:11,790
say one last thing.

2132
02:51:16,420 --> 02:51:16,620
Why?

2133
02:51:19,760 --> 02:51:20,500
Okay.

2134
02:51:21,080 --> 02:51:21,220
Okay.

2135
02:51:22,220 --> 02:51:23,900
Why do we have an RFP process?

2136
02:51:26,570 --> 02:51:29,570
Our RFP process mayor is to evaluate.

2137
02:51:29,570 --> 02:51:38,550
but they've been with the city for 23 plus years, right?

2138
02:51:38,990 --> 02:51:44,370
Do we have any other contracts that are 23 plus years

2139
02:51:44,370 --> 02:51:48,370
with other entities, organizations in the city?

2140
02:51:48,390 --> 02:51:51,490
I love this contract right now, it's 10 plus 10, so which 20?

2141
02:51:51,990 --> 02:51:56,210
Okay, and the last contract that we had that was more than 20 plus years,

2142
02:51:56,210 --> 02:52:04,350
We couldn't get an RFP because the council wouldn't agree to an RFP and that was our city attorney, our previous city attorney.

2143
02:52:05,070 --> 02:52:08,370
So it's not unusual for cities to have RFP processes.

2144
02:52:09,190 --> 02:52:18,550
Nobody's guaranteed that you're going to have in perpetuity, a contract, simply because you've been a great company, not questioning that.

2145
02:52:18,550 --> 02:52:30,850
But on RFP process is a very healthy process in city government because you learn new information, perhaps you have new needs, but why do we have RFP?

2146
02:52:31,510 --> 02:52:32,910
Well, who asked for this?

2147
02:52:33,350 --> 02:52:36,890
The council requested and have an open competitive process.

2148
02:52:37,310 --> 02:52:43,550
Okay. So just to understand, this city council asked for an RFP.

2149
02:52:44,110 --> 02:52:44,590
Okay?

2150
02:52:46,630 --> 02:52:54,490
I understand there is some tension here between union and non-union. That's not unusual.

2151
02:52:55,870 --> 02:53:01,390
Did anybody on this council ask you, hey, listen, unionization is really important to me. Can you include that in the criteria?

2152
02:53:02,790 --> 02:53:08,850
Because can you include in the criteria that unionization is important and you give points for that?

2153
02:53:09,170 --> 02:53:09,850
Yes, you can.

2154
02:53:09,970 --> 02:53:11,370
Okay. We did not do that.

2155
02:53:11,370 --> 02:53:11,630
Okay.

2156
02:53:13,930 --> 02:53:19,990
Nobody here asked for it. Nobody here said, hey, listen, this is we should emphasize

2157
02:53:19,990 --> 02:53:26,230
this and how many RFP processes did we have? Two separate ones on this. Two separate

2158
02:53:26,230 --> 02:53:33,910
ones. Now, I am personally in a union and I'm union guy, but we've had a process, right,

2159
02:53:33,910 --> 02:53:37,710
that has been ongoing for how many, how long?

2160
02:53:38,270 --> 02:53:39,010
It's not a year.

2161
02:53:39,590 --> 02:53:39,730
Okay.

2162
02:53:40,710 --> 02:53:43,410
And if we don't make a decision tonight to award,

2163
02:53:44,450 --> 02:53:46,890
we're going to have another nine to 12 months.

2164
02:53:47,750 --> 02:53:48,010
Right?

2165
02:53:49,070 --> 02:53:49,170
Yeah.

2166
02:53:52,180 --> 02:53:54,700
I represent the residents of Pomona.

2167
02:53:55,840 --> 02:54:00,240
And it is my responsibility as an elected official

2168
02:54:00,240 --> 02:54:04,540
to have faith and trust in staff to be able to deliver

2169
02:54:04,540 --> 02:54:13,680
a rigorous process. That is not what we do. We can ask questions. We can even say

2170
02:54:13,680 --> 02:54:17,920
you've staffed your wrong and you have a right to do that. But there's paid

2171
02:54:17,920 --> 02:54:24,140
professional staff to do this work. It's not because I feel this or I feel that

2172
02:54:24,140 --> 02:54:29,720
and it's a feeling or it's my imagination or you know I like those guys.

2173
02:54:33,920 --> 02:54:34,520
They're

2174
02:54:34,520 --> 02:54:41,440
that has a process called an RFP to come up with a set of criteria and you give

2175
02:54:41,440 --> 02:54:46,940
everybody the same opportunity. And it just happened that Mara Posa came out

2176
02:54:46,940 --> 02:54:48,640
ahead. Slightly,

2177
02:54:52,520 --> 02:54:54,000
I accept that process,

2178
02:54:56,360 --> 02:55:00,100
right? Is it a perfect process? I'm not

2179
02:55:00,100 --> 02:55:07,680
here to debate whether it's a perfect process. It is a process, okay? And I believe

2180
02:55:07,680 --> 02:55:13,660
staff did the job that we asked them to do. The idea of going back and doing another RFP,

2181
02:55:14,040 --> 02:55:21,360
we are doing a terrible disservice to this community. It does not prevent West Coast Arborist.

2182
02:55:21,680 --> 02:55:26,280
We would learn a lot from Mariposa. I have no connection to Mariposa. I have never received

2183
02:55:26,280 --> 02:55:30,680
money from Mariposa. I've never received money from West Coast Arborist. I've never received

2184
02:55:30,680 --> 02:55:33,840
money from your organization, Norstar,

2185
02:55:36,720 --> 02:55:39,960
but I'm here to represent the residents of

2186
02:55:39,960 --> 02:55:40,400
all of them.

2187
02:55:40,800 --> 02:55:45,860
Do I think unionization perhaps should be part of the equation at some point?

2188
02:55:46,160 --> 02:55:48,020
That's a conversation the council should have.

2189
02:55:48,360 --> 02:55:50,160
Are we going to ask RVRP to be that?

2190
02:55:52,840 --> 02:55:54,380
Does any city do that?

2191
02:55:55,480 --> 02:55:59,360
It has to be a unionized organization in order to get extra points.

2192
02:56:00,760 --> 02:56:02,300
We didn't tell you that, did we?

2193
02:56:02,300 --> 02:56:11,500
Okay. Okay. So I'm just saying that I agree with Council Member Lestro that this is not

2194
02:56:11,500 --> 02:56:18,040
good governance. This is not how good governance works. If it's about influence, if it's about

2195
02:56:18,040 --> 02:56:24,300
pushing because then we should have stated that before that this is of utmost importance

2196
02:56:24,300 --> 02:56:32,120
to us. And in fact, before the RFP, your organizations, the entities could have reached out

2197
02:56:32,120 --> 02:56:35,880
to us and said, hey listen, we've got to emphasize that. There's nothing that

2198
02:56:35,880 --> 02:56:38,780
preventing you from doing that. I don't recall ever speaking to West Coast

2199
02:56:38,780 --> 02:56:42,660
Arborist in the time that I've been there, except when this process and that's

2200
02:56:42,660 --> 02:56:48,140
okay. I don't recall speaking to you guys either, quite frankly. But there's a

2201
02:56:48,140 --> 02:56:53,420
reason why we have an RF process so that we give everybody an opportunity to put

2202
02:56:53,420 --> 02:56:59,260
forward their proposal. And so I support the two-year contract. It does not

2203
02:56:59,260 --> 02:57:05,020
mean that I don't support unions that's actually untrue. In fact, like I said, this could always

2204
02:57:05,020 --> 02:57:11,600
come back and perhaps we push my reposa to be a unionized so that we expand the number of unions

2205
02:57:11,600 --> 02:57:20,300
employees. Much like we did with the cannabis process, cannabis employees of these entities were

2206
02:57:20,300 --> 02:57:26,280
not unionized and we push for that as a city council and they are now union employees with UFCW.

2207
02:57:27,530 --> 02:57:36,410
We were one of the only cities that offered extra pay to employees from our supermarkets

2208
02:57:36,410 --> 02:57:40,350
during COVID because of the conditions they were working in.

2209
02:57:40,770 --> 02:57:44,070
So it's not our, are we supportive of the union or not supportive of the unions?

2210
02:57:44,730 --> 02:57:49,450
We have to be also supportive of a process that we agreed to.

2211
02:57:50,030 --> 02:57:54,810
And now we're trying to sort of change, we're trying to change the rules in the summer.

2212
02:57:55,670 --> 02:57:56,250
And so anyways.

2213
02:57:56,250 --> 02:58:02,790
I support you. I support the decision that you made. I believe you made a sound decision, right?

2214
02:58:03,230 --> 02:58:08,050
And I believe you're doing what is ultimately, I don't want to call it right for the residents,

2215
02:58:08,370 --> 02:58:14,330
right? But that's our job. It's for us to be able to assess. So I support the decision that was made.

2216
02:58:14,690 --> 02:58:18,750
I believe we should go into it to your contract from Heraposa. Bring it back. And if they're bad,

2217
02:58:19,050 --> 02:58:23,690
I'm not seeing that. I'm not saying they are. But if they are, their violation of the contract,

2218
02:58:23,690 --> 02:58:29,750
We welcome you to come back and to put forward a proposal, but in the meantime, I

2219
02:58:30,870 --> 02:58:36,190
soundly believe in that there's a reason why city government can work and you

2220
02:58:36,190 --> 02:58:43,630
have delivered that. I don't believe it's just an amount. It's interest, it's an

2221
02:58:43,630 --> 02:58:51,370
emotional thing, it's like, I feel this and I feel that. That's, I'm sorry, that's

2222
02:58:51,370 --> 02:58:54,670
That's that's not then why have a professional staff?

2223
02:58:56,860 --> 02:59:11,180
Why haven't because I think it should be brown and you believe it should be gray and I like this roof and I you don't run cities that way and cities that run that way are very, very influenced by special interest.

2224
02:59:14,710 --> 02:59:16,870
And I just think we got to be better than that.

2225
02:59:17,010 --> 02:59:19,950
So anyways, I will turn over to Vice-American Health.

2226
02:59:20,130 --> 02:59:24,710
I'm sorry, Council Member Garcia had her hand up

2227
02:59:24,710 --> 02:59:26,290
in the Vice-American Health Office.

2228
02:59:26,710 --> 02:59:27,570
Okay, thank you.

2229
02:59:28,130 --> 02:59:29,510
Some, thank you, Mayor.

2230
02:59:30,330 --> 02:59:32,150
I am also a union member.

2231
02:59:32,390 --> 02:59:33,890
That's what happens when you're a teacher.

2232
02:59:34,410 --> 02:59:36,950
But I also understand what the Mayor just said

2233
02:59:36,950 --> 02:59:40,810
about no such direction was given to staff.

2234
02:59:40,810 --> 02:59:42,590
So while I respect our union members

2235
02:59:42,590 --> 02:59:47,590
as a union member, that cannot go into our calculation today.

2236
02:59:48,310 --> 02:59:54,130
Some companies bidding for this contract may have unlimited resources, but the City of Pomona does not.

2237
02:59:54,870 --> 02:59:59,890
This RFP is about addressing the needs of Pomona within budget.

2238
03:00:00,590 --> 03:00:30,430
Recommendation number two, we'll reduce the tree risk and the claims we pay out significantly according to our staff report and the analysis by our risk management team and meet these needs for tree trimmings more appropriately for our city. And I move to approve recommendation number two, with the understanding that by smear can Alice will be speaking. Okay. All right. So we just just you know on the floor we have a first

2239
03:00:30,430 --> 03:00:35,130
Okay, doesn't mean we have a second although I'm sure we'll get a second, but

2240
03:00:35,130 --> 03:00:39,570
vice mayor can always go ahead and speak and then I'll ask for a second by the way.

2241
03:00:40,010 --> 03:00:47,470
As the last vote happen, it could be up or down and we have to go to the second

2242
03:00:47,470 --> 03:00:50,990
option should be counseled to you so just to be clear about that.

2243
03:00:51,550 --> 03:00:54,430
There's no guarantee, vice mayor can also.

2244
03:00:54,430 --> 03:01:02,580
I understand the need because of what's coming up, and I know that we cannot wait.

2245
03:01:03,120 --> 03:01:08,960
But can you please explain to me why we would agree to a $1 million difference.

2246
03:01:10,480 --> 03:01:20,380
I mean, where is the $1 million difference of North Star as a compare to

2247
03:01:23,620 --> 03:01:31,620
So when we do an RFP process, we're not doing low bid, so let's start there because it's a balance, right?

2248
03:01:32,040 --> 03:01:34,600
They were ranked on that proposal and that score.

2249
03:01:35,140 --> 03:01:46,180
I would say part of what you are paying for the other firms is the experience and the technical expertise they have, and that they have served in other areas.

2250
03:01:46,180 --> 03:01:53,180
And for a robust urban forest like the City of Pomona for many years and understand what it means.

2251
03:01:53,620 --> 03:02:01,900
I would also say that that million dollars is over a five year period, so it's a hundred somewhat thousand dollars for the initial year.

2252
03:02:02,620 --> 03:02:06,360
So that's really what we're looking at in terms of the award and the differential.

2253
03:02:07,060 --> 03:02:12,460
And again, it turns out that Mariposa is not providing that higher level service and

2254
03:02:12,460 --> 03:02:19,240
quality that we think based on the recommendations and the references that we called, then we would

2255
03:02:19,240 --> 03:02:26,180
be looking to bring something different back to the council. But in the meantime, their experience

2256
03:02:26,180 --> 03:02:32,900
did not appear to be what we needed. And part, I mean, I wasn't on the review process, but in reviewing

2257
03:02:32,900 --> 03:02:39,120
the proposals afterwards. And having gone through selecting a lower vendor or selecting a lower bid

2258
03:02:39,120 --> 03:02:51,360
vendor and having to cancel that contract and terminate that contract because they weren't able to deliver because they had never done that they had never had that level of experience before it's very impactful for a city of the size of Pomona.

2259
03:02:52,600 --> 03:02:57,060
Can we have North Star defend that statement?

2260
03:03:02,880 --> 03:03:13,840
I can guarantee you they're going to tell you they can do it and that's fine, but yeah, I mean, I know we struggle with finances in the city of Pomona and that is a concern.

2261
03:03:14,140 --> 03:03:17,020
of mine is that we do have a financial budget

2262
03:03:17,020 --> 03:03:18,080
that we're dealing with.

2263
03:03:18,620 --> 03:03:22,620
And so a million dollars is of, you know,

2264
03:03:23,080 --> 03:03:25,740
is something that I think that is of concern to me.

2265
03:03:28,290 --> 03:03:29,110
Yes, absolutely.

2266
03:03:29,570 --> 03:03:33,630
So we have the experience, we have the equipment,

2267
03:03:33,690 --> 03:03:36,430
we have the personnel, we have the certifications,

2268
03:03:36,970 --> 03:03:39,730
and we have the methodology on how to approach

2269
03:03:39,730 --> 03:03:41,790
A city like Pomona.

2270
03:03:42,410 --> 03:03:45,450
So we feel very confident that we would be able

2271
03:03:45,450 --> 03:03:56,010
to work with staff, attribute 40% on given species in order to reduce risk.

2272
03:03:56,670 --> 03:04:02,510
At the end of the day, what you want to do as an urban forest company is help cities reduce risk.

2273
03:04:03,190 --> 03:04:13,350
You can't reduce 100% of it, but you can reduce a lot of risk by properly addressing species-specific pruning standards.

2274
03:04:13,350 --> 03:04:19,810
And that is one of the biggest things that we bring to the industry is a different approach.

2275
03:04:20,150 --> 03:04:28,330
Yes, we like the 25% baseline of the ISA standards, but we've also questioned it in years because it doesn't get you,

2276
03:04:28,510 --> 03:04:34,890
it doesn't get the, it doesn't get an urban force like the size of Pomona, what it adequately means.

2277
03:04:35,630 --> 03:04:41,830
So addressing risk is the number one priority that I think an urban forest company

2278
03:04:41,830 --> 03:04:50,730
should be looking to partner up with the city, addressing risk, doing what's right for the tree while reducing risk for the city.

2279
03:04:53,540 --> 03:04:56,100
Mr. Martinez, just because you're up here in this.

2280
03:04:56,100 --> 03:05:03,820
Yes, and by the way, this is a paramount to me, but what cities are you currently servicing?

2281
03:05:04,780 --> 03:05:13,600
We're servicing the city of Suza nearby and we're doing half a million there for the electrical side, utility and water department.

2282
03:05:13,600 --> 03:05:18,420
And then we're also doing another half a million on the regular trim, like your city.

2283
03:05:19,040 --> 03:05:22,100
We're doing over $2 million in the city of industry as well.

2284
03:05:23,040 --> 03:05:30,520
We're doing a city of San Gabriel, city of El Monte, working with La Puente Hills out of LA County.

2285
03:05:31,260 --> 03:05:35,220
City of Linwood, city of Hawthorne, in the South Bay.

2286
03:05:36,000 --> 03:05:38,920
Yeah, to mention, it just kind of gives us an idea, very good sir.

2287
03:05:41,740 --> 03:05:47,660
Mr. Martinez, I apologize, I see Council member Garcia has a question.

2288
03:05:47,920 --> 03:05:48,480
Here's the thing.

2289
03:05:48,920 --> 03:05:52,600
What you said was beautiful, but I didn't hear an answer to the question.

2290
03:05:53,160 --> 03:05:53,320
How?

2291
03:05:54,060 --> 03:05:58,120
How are you reducing your cost by a million dollars?

2292
03:05:59,320 --> 03:06:04,260
Well, when you take everything into consideration, when you take everything that's going to be done,

2293
03:06:04,260 --> 03:06:07,460
and over a million dollars, over the five years,

2294
03:06:07,640 --> 03:06:10,380
you're reducing tremendously because of the way we approach.

2295
03:06:10,900 --> 03:06:11,920
So we know our numbers.

2296
03:06:12,100 --> 03:06:14,360
I've been doing numbers for over 33 years.

2297
03:06:14,540 --> 03:06:16,140
I've been in the industry for over 33 years,

2298
03:06:16,280 --> 03:06:18,560
and I've been doing numbers for a long time.

2299
03:06:18,800 --> 03:06:20,560
How much do your employees get paid an hour?

2300
03:06:21,800 --> 03:06:25,560
Oh, so we work with the, we're probably about five to 10%

2301
03:06:25,560 --> 03:06:28,500
above what the union is actually stating

2302
03:06:28,500 --> 03:06:31,160
that we have to pay for under the Department of Industrial Relations.

2303
03:06:31,160 --> 03:06:41,940
So I don't, we don't pay just what the union states, we pay based on what we can perform on a merit base.

2304
03:06:43,040 --> 03:06:50,100
Okay, that's great. I still don't hear an answer to the question. How are you reducing it by a million dollars?

2305
03:06:50,100 --> 03:06:58,840
just if I can share it and yeah I don't want this to be a trial for each of the

2306
03:06:58,840 --> 03:07:10,660
sure I respect all three of the vendors here so I like to ask for us to just

2307
03:07:10,660 --> 03:07:16,620
refrain from if it's okay yeah I understand no I understand because I can

2308
03:07:16,620 --> 03:07:22,240
And certainly, you know, if you look at the rankings, North Star was, I think, third.

2309
03:07:23,020 --> 03:07:31,120
Yeah, which is respectable, was third, certainly West Coast Arborist was close in terms

2310
03:07:31,120 --> 03:07:42,080
of first, but again, we rely on staff to do the meticulous work because we're not trained

2311
03:07:42,080 --> 03:07:42,480
in that.

2312
03:07:42,620 --> 03:07:44,040
It doesn't mean we don't ask good questions.

2313
03:07:44,300 --> 03:07:45,600
It doesn't mean we don't probe.

2314
03:07:45,600 --> 03:07:49,100
In fact, some will disagree about warring to my proposal.

2315
03:07:49,320 --> 03:07:51,800
You have been to other cities, and sometimes you get contracts,

2316
03:07:51,820 --> 03:07:53,880
sometimes you don't, that's just how it works.

2317
03:07:54,180 --> 03:07:58,300
I just want to make sure that we're not in any way putting

2318
03:07:58,300 --> 03:08:02,400
any of our vendors on a quasi trial here.

2319
03:08:02,940 --> 03:08:03,900
But I understand where you're going.

2320
03:08:04,080 --> 03:08:04,560
I understand where you're going.

2321
03:08:04,840 --> 03:08:05,360
Thank you, Mr. Mortis.

2322
03:08:05,840 --> 03:08:05,960
OK.

2323
03:08:06,980 --> 03:08:11,560
Councilmember Pressio had some idea about where we might go.

2324
03:08:11,700 --> 03:08:13,500
And just to my reminder, there's a motion on the floor.

2325
03:08:13,500 --> 03:08:32,460
Thank you to the applicants. I don't want to get into an argument with my colleagues. I felt strongly about what the way I voted last time and I don't want to make any negative comments. But I do try to find solutions and find a bit of ground one thing I absolutely do not want.

2326
03:08:33,240 --> 03:08:38,400
And I don't want to make that comment, but I don't want is any more laps of service.

2327
03:08:40,140 --> 03:08:41,960
I think stuff

2328
03:08:44,070 --> 03:08:47,370
could have been done differently, or a little bit more upfront last time.

2329
03:08:48,570 --> 03:08:55,610
But I'd like to just make a suggestion, and that is that if we modify option one, I mean option two.

2330
03:08:56,590 --> 03:08:58,710
Because that's what you moved, right?

2331
03:08:59,330 --> 03:09:00,030
Councilman Garcia.

2332
03:09:00,030 --> 03:09:09,770
We need service now. It's a two year contract. But how about instead of having the extensions

2333
03:09:09,770 --> 03:09:16,050
in there, we make sure that within those two years, the following RFP comes forward.

2334
03:09:17,370 --> 03:09:26,030
And thus if an RFP now is eight to 12 months, which is about a year, it would still fall

2335
03:09:26,030 --> 03:09:26,890
It's the same timeline.

2336
03:09:27,210 --> 03:09:29,590
Body plus I would be in for two years.

2337
03:09:30,390 --> 03:09:34,210
But before that contract expires, the RFP comes up.

2338
03:09:36,290 --> 03:09:37,070
Interesting point.

2339
03:09:37,790 --> 03:09:40,410
It is my understanding that no matter what,

2340
03:09:40,410 --> 03:09:43,950
after the two years, there's an evaluation process

2341
03:09:44,510 --> 03:09:46,510
and that the council can decide to do an RFP.

2342
03:09:47,050 --> 03:09:48,190
There is no guaranteed extension.

2343
03:09:48,490 --> 03:09:50,670
So in other words, they don't get to extend it.

2344
03:09:50,890 --> 03:09:53,130
It's the city of Pomona that gets to extend it.

2345
03:09:53,550 --> 03:09:55,650
So I'm not sure how that aligns with what you're saying.

2346
03:09:55,650 --> 03:10:03,570
That I understand, but in this case, I'm saying let's remove the options for extensions and let's have the RFP.

2347
03:10:08,670 --> 03:10:13,750
Staff's comments on that. I mean, obviously, City Manager, Scott, do you have any strong thoughts on that?

2348
03:10:14,970 --> 03:10:18,930
I mean, it's a very short-term contract to be able to turn it around.

2349
03:10:19,110 --> 03:10:24,190
I think having an option to extend is always a good option to preserve continuity of service.

2350
03:10:24,190 --> 03:10:35,850
And we find ourselves in a contract issue, our award issue in the future having an ability to extend while we're doing an RFP is helpful.

2351
03:10:36,690 --> 03:10:45,870
So I would say that still having an option for at least for a one year extension with the understanding that this is a two year award would be beneficial to the city.

2352
03:10:45,870 --> 03:11:10,070
Could you, assuming services good to great, could you have a extension one year which it would be all along it would take to have an RFP with the condition that there would be an RFP after that basically in the third year, but there could be an RFP in the second year because there's non performance.

2353
03:11:14,590 --> 03:11:18,870
I would allow for a conversation about that one year.

2354
03:11:19,230 --> 03:11:19,390
Okay.

2355
03:11:20,490 --> 03:11:20,650
All right.

2356
03:11:21,330 --> 03:11:27,670
So this would be a modification of the motion by Councilmember Garcia.

2357
03:11:28,890 --> 03:11:34,130
And you're asking for a friendly of amendment to your motion.

2358
03:11:35,490 --> 03:11:37,070
It's up to you, Councilmember. It's your motion.

2359
03:11:37,070 --> 03:11:38,110
I

2360
03:11:40,160 --> 03:11:54,880
think I've stated my beliefs about so-called friendly amendments before, which just if you're saying yeah, I think I think that you're phrasing just brought me back to a moment about five years ago.

2361
03:11:54,960 --> 03:11:55,800
Oh, trauma everyone.

2362
03:11:55,800 --> 03:12:03,000
I think so. Council PTSD. But I totally understand where my council colleague is coming from

2363
03:12:03,640 --> 03:12:12,500
about wanting to move this forward without a lapse. If he is willing to do a two-year contract with

2364
03:12:13,070 --> 03:12:19,120
an option for a one-year extension, what does that discussion look like?

2365
03:12:19,120 --> 03:12:26,920
That's correct, but I'm hoping that in during by the end of the second year, we're so what I don't want is

2366
03:12:26,920 --> 03:12:34,420
Like if it's timely if it's in conversation if it's and we have to that's why you're asking for that option for the extra year, right?

2367
03:12:34,680 --> 03:12:36,740
Just like right now, we we needed

2368
03:12:37,680 --> 03:12:43,960
We needed these extensions to carry us to this point because there was negotiations and conversations and RFP

2369
03:12:44,840 --> 03:12:51,400
I would say that reason in addition to Councilmember also it gives additional time to judge

2370
03:12:51,400 --> 03:12:51,900
performance.

2371
03:12:52,600 --> 03:12:56,380
So even for our palm trees are moving to a two-year cycle, so to be able to add a couple

2372
03:12:56,380 --> 03:13:01,560
of the judge performance of a tree contractor, I would say a two-year is at least a minimum

2373
03:13:01,560 --> 03:13:06,480
to be able to make a decision on whether you want to move forward or not, and that two-year

2374
03:13:06,480 --> 03:13:10,300
with the one option would give you that time frame.

2375
03:13:10,840 --> 03:13:11,800
Before I-

2376
03:13:11,800 --> 03:13:13,100
It sounds like our colleague wants to speak.

2377
03:13:13,160 --> 03:13:19,340
Yeah, I think Councilmember Lester has a comment to make before I-

2378
03:13:19,340 --> 03:13:28,080
A little background, Councilmember Lester was in terms of the Council work for a city and

2379
03:13:28,080 --> 03:13:34,460
work in public works and understands contracts and understands the implications so he brings

2380
03:13:34,460 --> 03:13:41,160
is a tremendous amount of insight that not always have the privilege of having, if you

2381
03:13:41,160 --> 03:13:44,560
ask me about English literature, I could probably tell you a lot about that, but that's

2382
03:13:44,560 --> 03:13:49,120
not what we're up here to talk about, but Councillor, and you won't tell you all that.

2383
03:13:49,340 --> 03:13:53,540
I'm telling you to kind of give you an idea of the issue that he's raising as it relates

2384
03:13:53,540 --> 03:13:58,260
to your point, Vice Mayor, I'm sorry, Council Member, appreciate it.

2385
03:13:58,260 --> 03:13:59,140
Well,

2386
03:14:01,230 --> 03:14:06,950
before I say what I was going to say, I know I mentioned at the July 20th meeting

2387
03:14:06,950 --> 03:14:14,930
that I've had opportunities in the past during my professional career to review RFPs

2388
03:14:14,930 --> 03:14:21,550
and to develop a developer review process very similar to what our public works department

2389
03:14:21,550 --> 03:14:24,710
did for this particular RFP.

2390
03:14:24,710 --> 03:14:51,510
And I know that based on the comments that I've heard tonight, I know that with all due respect that at least a couple of my colleagues don't understand that process, and that's fine, this is not just based on low bid, but what what I was going to say was is that I'm prepared to second councilmember Garcia's original motion.

2391
03:14:51,510 --> 03:14:59,910
And my concern is, is that with respect to the suggested modification to that motion is...

2392
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:29,980
Is that if we just go with a two-year contract and then we we do another RFP that would have to get started quite honestly in the next 12 to 16 months if we were to award a contract tonight because it takes that long to go through that process as staff has described to us. I think we all know prices are going to go up between now and then. And right now we have we have bids for five years. We know those are they're fixed. We know what those are. And there's

2393
03:15:29,980 --> 03:15:37,120
There's no guarantee that those are not going to change if we, a year and three months

2394
03:15:37,120 --> 03:15:43,560
or a year and a half, we go back and we do another RFP that prices are not going to go

2395
03:15:43,560 --> 03:15:45,880
up because that's the direction everything is going right now.

2396
03:15:46,780 --> 03:15:55,100
And I think that the way that the option is written to your contract with the potential

2397
03:15:55,100 --> 03:16:02,000
over three options, still gives staff the flexibility is that if the contractor is not

2398
03:16:02,000 --> 03:16:09,580
doing its job based on staff's professional opinion, the folks in the field that are

2399
03:16:09,580 --> 03:16:14,460
reviewing what they're doing, making sure that they're complying with the contract,

2400
03:16:14,900 --> 03:16:22,620
this council will have that option if staff comes back to us and says we need to, we need

2401
03:16:22,620 --> 03:16:27,960
to forbid this for whatever reason because the contractor is not performing, we have that

2402
03:16:27,960 --> 03:16:35,200
ability. There is that ability because I don't think that staff wants a contractor doing

2403
03:16:35,200 --> 03:16:39,500
work on our trees that are not performing to the standards that we set forth in the RFP.

2404
03:16:40,240 --> 03:16:47,100
So I feel, personally, I feel that there's enough protection in the way that the option is

2405
03:16:47,100 --> 03:16:50,040
written. I would have been very happy with the five-year contract.

2406
03:16:50,040 --> 03:16:57,220
But I'm also, I can be comfortable with, with a two year contract with three optional one year extensions.

2407
03:16:59,810 --> 03:17:02,600
Thank you, Councilor Prisciato.

2408
03:17:03,260 --> 03:17:08,580
I just like to ask staff to please clarify, because there's different timelines that have been thrown out.

2409
03:17:09,040 --> 03:17:12,820
At the last meeting, they said an RFP would last six months.

2410
03:17:13,420 --> 03:17:18,560
Today, we're talking a little bit about eight months and a little bit more, and my colleague just mentioned a little bit more.

2411
03:17:18,560 --> 03:17:22,360
or I think, why don't you just tell us?

2412
03:17:23,600 --> 03:17:26,640
So it really depends on right now, as you all know,

2413
03:17:27,120 --> 03:17:28,620
we have had a lot of staff leave,

2414
03:17:29,080 --> 03:17:30,120
not only in our department,

2415
03:17:30,500 --> 03:17:32,320
but also in finance and other departments.

2416
03:17:32,780 --> 03:17:34,540
We all work together when we develop

2417
03:17:34,540 --> 03:17:36,900
and have an RFP that goes out.

2418
03:17:37,400 --> 03:17:39,180
And then when you look at council timelines

2419
03:17:39,680 --> 03:17:43,060
and just how long it takes to vet contracts,

2420
03:17:43,700 --> 03:17:46,660
it takes six to nine months, typically,

2421
03:17:46,660 --> 03:17:51,420
With our team being down almost three members, it takes longer than that.

2422
03:17:53,760 --> 03:17:57,820
So that's why you hear, you probably heard from the city manager's office and

2423
03:17:57,820 --> 03:18:01,880
then when I went back to the team and we have other contracts that are coming due to.

2424
03:18:02,220 --> 03:18:03,860
This is not the only one that we have.

2425
03:18:04,220 --> 03:18:08,660
So currently in this situation, when we're looking at the team members that we have or

2426
03:18:08,660 --> 03:18:16,000
don't have at this moment, then it can take nine months, nine to 12 months with the other things that we also have on our plate.

2427
03:18:16,660 --> 03:18:17,940
Thank you for the comment.

2428
03:18:19,220 --> 03:18:23,940
I still think that I've made an attempt.

2429
03:18:25,720 --> 03:18:33,660
I think that the city manager mentioned that she was okay with it and if she wants to change her mind, she let me know.

2430
03:18:35,480 --> 03:18:44,980
But I think that I mean, if you're worried about pricing, yeah, I could definitely see that, but it doesn't change much from the fruition of the current

2431
03:18:44,980 --> 03:18:47,120
but suggested item number two.

2432
03:18:47,600 --> 03:18:50,860
And that's why we have a competitive bid process

2433
03:18:50,860 --> 03:18:54,640
because if one or all three choose to raise their prices

2434
03:18:54,640 --> 03:18:56,060
or keep it low and win the bid,

2435
03:18:56,640 --> 03:18:57,580
they have that option.

2436
03:18:57,680 --> 03:18:58,520
It's called capitalism.

2437
03:19:01,160 --> 03:19:05,520
So can you, I offered up some variation

2438
03:19:05,520 --> 03:19:07,380
on what you said, but can you repeat what you're,

2439
03:19:08,080 --> 03:19:10,500
so my proposal, your amendment would be

2440
03:19:10,500 --> 03:19:13,420
to councilmember Garcia, just so we at least know

2441
03:19:14,400 --> 03:19:16,560
and whether the council member will accept it

2442
03:19:16,560 --> 03:19:19,080
because she may not, can you repeat that?

2443
03:19:19,420 --> 03:19:21,700
Yeah, so essentially it is grant money

2444
03:19:21,700 --> 03:19:25,380
plus of the two year contract and according

2445
03:19:25,380 --> 03:19:26,760
to the city matter, she would still

2446
03:19:26,760 --> 03:19:28,820
like the one year extension, I'm okay with that

2447
03:19:28,820 --> 03:19:29,740
versus two of them.

2448
03:19:30,820 --> 03:19:35,120
But I don't want us to, like I don't want the option

2449
03:19:35,620 --> 03:19:37,800
to be like should we do the RFP or not?

2450
03:19:38,140 --> 03:19:39,720
I want us to do an RFP.

2451
03:19:39,720 --> 03:19:45,720
with a reasonable timeline. So if it's six months to nine months, that means that

2452
03:19:45,720 --> 03:19:49,700
that'll for at the very least three months prior to the end of the two-year

2453
03:19:49,700 --> 03:19:51,480
contract that RFP would get started.

2454
03:19:54,540 --> 03:19:57,860
So if I'm hearing you correctly you are okay

2455
03:19:57,860 --> 03:20:03,080
with the one-year optional but you don't actually want to exercise it. I mean

2456
03:20:03,080 --> 03:20:08,520
that will be dependent on that time and that day because in case we need the

2457
03:20:08,520 --> 03:20:13,960
extra time because of deliberation, an RFP process of where we maybe have less

2458
03:20:13,960 --> 03:20:18,660
employees or more employees because we have told staff to get to the point where

2459
03:20:18,660 --> 03:20:23,080
they're fully staffed. So maybe it's more on the six-month side but at least now

2460
03:20:23,080 --> 03:20:28,380
they will take the RFP. And what I'm hearing you say is that you're not saying it

2461
03:20:28,380 --> 03:20:33,180
there has to be an RFP at year two. It could be an RFP and it could be a number of

2462
03:20:33,180 --> 03:20:40,820
backers as to why we would do it, but it's an RFP or a one year extension is what I understand.

2463
03:20:41,100 --> 03:20:48,920
So I want the RFP to be definite, the timeline really that year potentially, it could lead to the third year,

2464
03:20:49,620 --> 03:20:57,880
it could start depending, you know, I'm not, I don't want to, what the City Manager has asked me is to not pigeonhole them to the timeline and I'm okay with that.

2465
03:20:58,420 --> 03:21:03,520
So if they this way, they don't have to start six months prior to the end of year two of the contract.

2466
03:21:03,860 --> 03:21:12,700
If they so choose, they could start up three months later, two months after that or months, whatever they agree, but they at least have the year.

2467
03:21:13,720 --> 03:21:24,680
In case they have to go to another RFP or deliberation or conversation or reduction of staff or an increase of staff, but they at least have that flexibility.

2468
03:21:27,560 --> 03:21:37,280
I think my overall general recommendation is that it is in the best interest of the city to be able to award a contract this evening.

2469
03:21:37,660 --> 03:21:42,820
We are without a tree trimming service with an urban forest of 37,000 trees.

2470
03:21:43,140 --> 03:21:47,480
This impacts our entire city, the longer that we do not have a contract.

2471
03:21:47,480 --> 03:21:56,080
I think that it is the best option to have a longer term contract because one you walk

2472
03:21:56,080 --> 03:22:02,640
in prices, as Councilmember Lestro mentioned, it is labor some and resource intensive for

2473
03:22:02,640 --> 03:22:11,760
our staff to do RFPs. So that is, it's better to have a longer term contract. So that is the

2474
03:22:11,760 --> 03:22:18,200
best option. I also understand that this council is struggling to make a decision on this

2475
03:22:18,200 --> 03:22:23,420
contract with time frame and price. This isn't a low bid contract. RFP as mentioned

2476
03:22:23,420 --> 03:22:30,500
before, it is performance based. So I would say if a shorter term contract gets us to

2477
03:22:30,500 --> 03:22:36,740
the main goal of being able to award a contract and providing service to our city, I can support

2478
03:22:36,740 --> 03:22:43,640
that. I personally believe that at least a three-year contract would be in the best interest

2479
03:22:43,640 --> 03:22:49,320
of the city because, again, for review and time frame and performance. If the council

2480
03:22:49,320 --> 03:22:54,700
can't get there, I understand that in a two-year, I think would at least help us get over

2481
03:22:54,700 --> 03:22:59,660
the hump, but realize, again, the very real resource issues that we are dealing with citywide.

2482
03:23:00,480 --> 03:23:06,420
And that puts us in this whole process, again, in 18 months. And that is a very quick turnaround

2483
03:23:06,420 --> 03:23:09,300
around time for the resource levels that we have.

2484
03:23:09,600 --> 03:23:12,860
We have three people managing our tree contracts.

2485
03:23:13,300 --> 03:23:14,720
We have a lot of turnover.

2486
03:23:16,080 --> 03:23:17,960
But so those are some of the resource issues

2487
03:23:17,960 --> 03:23:22,040
that we're handling along with several other major contracts

2488
03:23:22,660 --> 03:23:25,200
within public works and finance.

2489
03:23:25,620 --> 03:23:27,260
So those would be my thoughts on it.

2490
03:23:28,380 --> 03:23:28,740
Thank you.

2491
03:23:29,100 --> 03:23:30,520
All right, Councilor, I'm sure no of you

2492
03:23:30,520 --> 03:23:33,380
and I know these aren't easy decisions to make

2493
03:23:33,380 --> 03:23:38,700
but your colleague has offered up an amendment.

2494
03:23:39,300 --> 03:23:40,580
If I can just make one last comment.

2495
03:23:42,840 --> 03:23:45,580
Yeah, 18 months, but also that's why I'm saying

2496
03:23:45,580 --> 03:23:49,560
if at 18 months she gets with you or the council,

2497
03:23:50,160 --> 03:23:51,900
and she says, you know, it makes sense

2498
03:23:51,900 --> 03:23:53,960
to start the process at 24 months

2499
03:23:55,120 --> 03:23:56,940
as long as it's before the 36.

2500
03:23:58,640 --> 03:24:01,760
And that's exercising the extension then, right?

2501
03:24:01,760 --> 03:24:02,500
That's correct.

2502
03:24:06,720 --> 03:24:08,660
I, here's the bottom line.

2503
03:24:09,060 --> 03:24:09,880
We need tree service.

2504
03:24:10,300 --> 03:24:11,200
We needed it yesterday.

2505
03:24:11,660 --> 03:24:13,460
Actually, we needed a July 20th,

2506
03:24:13,860 --> 03:24:17,440
which is why again, I can't believe that this is happening.

2507
03:24:18,560 --> 03:24:21,960
This council has now shocked me twice in two years.

2508
03:24:22,600 --> 03:24:26,300
So with that in mind, I will go ahead

2509
03:24:26,300 --> 03:24:29,260
and accept a friendly motion for the two-year contract

2510
03:24:29,800 --> 03:24:33,800
with one year optional, one year option, year extension.

2511
03:24:35,420 --> 03:24:47,780
But I am with Council Member Lester, I would have been perfectly fine with a five-year contract because not only do I respect staff and their work, but I understand the boundaries and the limitations that we currently have.

2512
03:24:48,000 --> 03:24:54,000
But if this is what it takes to get treats to the service, then I will accept that friendly motion and move on.

2513
03:24:56,270 --> 03:24:57,070
And you

2514
03:25:00,810 --> 03:25:08,490
can say reluctantly what I was going to say if that's the best we can do all seconded. Yeah, very good. Welcome to the team.

2515
03:25:09,110 --> 03:25:14,150
So just do you have the language that you need to be able to report.

2516
03:25:15,290 --> 03:25:21,810
Yes. Okay. I was just going to say that. Yes, I understand it. It's a tier contract with a one year maximum extension.

2517
03:25:21,810 --> 03:25:27,570
And the last question I think is that it was a city attorney alphanage very same page is is to get a confirmation from error

2518
03:25:27,570 --> 03:25:29,330
Posa that they would agree to those terms

2519
03:25:29,790 --> 03:25:30,950
You might come up sir

2520
03:25:32,760 --> 03:25:39,680
And mayor council the reason I say that is because you went through an RFP process and our contractors do base their proposals based on

2521
03:25:39,680 --> 03:25:44,160
What they expect the contract to be and so you guys can all come up with great ideas

2522
03:25:44,160 --> 03:25:46,400
But we need to have a meeting of the minds and absolutely

2523
03:25:46,880 --> 03:25:50,500
And by the way this is rare that we

2524
03:25:50,500 --> 03:26:00,480
the process looks like this, I just want you to know, but we bring you up here and yeah, thank you. I'm torn.

2525
03:26:03,260 --> 03:26:11,860
There's a learning process when you take obesity and it takes a good year. So what you're asking in that process is figuring things out.

2526
03:26:11,960 --> 03:26:16,440
We don't make a lot of money in those first years of these contracts, if any.

2527
03:26:17,000 --> 03:26:19,680
And then you also have the grids, you have different grids.

2528
03:26:20,280 --> 03:26:28,200
At the top of my head, I don't know which grid has the smallest easiest trees, but I'm locked in to $1 price for every tree in the city.

2529
03:26:28,880 --> 03:26:35,740
So what you're asking me right now, assuming we do good work is that I'm done in three years, so I don't mind I'll get to get to the easier trees.

2530
03:26:36,480 --> 03:26:37,780
That's a big ask right now.

2531
03:26:39,380 --> 03:26:44,220
Am I willing to do it just because we're here and I want to start?

2532
03:26:45,120 --> 03:26:58,440
be grudgingly yes and just councils come and go, councils can they modify this at some

2533
03:26:58,440 --> 03:26:58,680
point?

2534
03:27:02,120 --> 03:27:06,200
Obviously he's doing it begrudgingly but he wouldn't begrudge it if and I'm sure

2535
03:27:06,200 --> 03:27:11,760
West Coast you know they they had multiple extensions. Right you could modify but I mean he

2536
03:27:11,760 --> 03:27:15,360
I mean, Mariposa would still then have to agree to the contract terms on the price.

2537
03:27:15,440 --> 03:27:21,520
Sure, sure, I understand what I'm saying is, and I can understand what the motion amendment is, right?

2538
03:27:21,680 --> 03:27:26,880
But it doesn't lock the council and our future councils into it, that's all in essence.

2539
03:27:27,020 --> 03:27:27,720
Well, you can always do that.

2540
03:27:27,960 --> 03:27:32,200
I think I want to go back to a theme that I think's come from staff, and it's come from our public work structure.

2541
03:27:32,760 --> 03:27:38,460
There's a reason why we have a process called an RFP, and there's a reason why we make staff recommendations the way we do.

2542
03:27:38,460 --> 03:27:46,200
And there's a reason why doing these kind of modifications at 11 o'clock at night don't always

2543
03:27:46,200 --> 03:27:48,800
lead to the best decisions in the best interest of government.

2544
03:27:49,120 --> 03:27:52,980
I just need to say that again because what happens is you have contractors who invest

2545
03:27:52,980 --> 03:27:57,320
a lot of money into the process, a lot of them responded, and then we put them on the spot

2546
03:27:57,320 --> 03:27:58,160
at 11 o'clock.

2547
03:27:58,260 --> 03:28:01,740
I almost guarantee you as your city attorney that they are going to come back and make

2548
03:28:01,740 --> 03:28:07,200
requested changes because it's outside of the process, but I think the clarifying point

2549
03:28:07,200 --> 03:28:11,040
is that you need tree service and if that's the way it's going to go, my legal advice to you

2550
03:28:11,040 --> 03:28:14,580
would be if you decide to award the contract on the basis that you're discussing this evening,

2551
03:28:14,980 --> 03:28:19,780
you should anticipate that there will be changes and those changes may not result in the lowest cost

2552
03:28:19,780 --> 03:28:25,840
or the best services for you. What's what's hard about this is that I think some of us absolutely

2553
03:28:25,840 --> 03:28:27,040
agree it should be a five-year.

2554
03:28:29,360 --> 03:28:31,560
There's someone that's counsel that don't believe they should even be

2555
03:28:31,560 --> 03:28:40,640
awarded. And so, some of us who believe in the process, who believe in staff having made

2556
03:28:40,640 --> 03:28:47,780
a good sound recommendation, and that we can move forward, were not in that place. And

2557
03:28:47,780 --> 03:28:53,060
that's the nature of council. It's not, it's an imperfect, it's, it's, we're an imperfect

2558
03:28:53,060 --> 03:28:59,820
buy. And I don't say that because, you know, to say that's specifically about anyone person,

2559
03:28:59,820 --> 03:29:04,480
and but sometimes councils make fair decisions,

2560
03:29:04,760 --> 03:29:05,920
sometimes they make bad decisions,

2561
03:29:06,220 --> 03:29:08,100
sometimes they make good or great decisions,

2562
03:29:08,860 --> 03:29:10,460
and we're no different than any of the council

2563
03:29:10,460 --> 03:29:11,040
from that perspective.

2564
03:29:11,480 --> 03:29:12,500
I just will say this,

2565
03:29:14,480 --> 03:29:15,200
don't for a moment,

2566
03:29:16,480 --> 03:29:19,420
don't for a moment think or don't think

2567
03:29:21,260 --> 03:29:22,740
that the communities,

2568
03:29:23,060 --> 03:29:24,620
and I'm talking about particularly those

2569
03:29:24,620 --> 03:29:27,600
who are private enterprise who see this

2570
03:29:28,720 --> 03:29:32,640
and ask, wait a second, are you guys going to put me in that same spot too?

2571
03:29:33,260 --> 03:29:40,880
We send a message to other RFPs that go out and are we going to micro manage this in

2572
03:29:40,880 --> 03:29:46,320
a way that is outside the scope of a reasonable, thoughtful process.

2573
03:29:47,280 --> 03:29:53,900
And all we're trying to do is to try to mold this into, because we know that our residents

2574
03:29:53,900 --> 03:29:59,960
need services and that we cannot wait another year to be able to get them.

2575
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:15,880
So, we have a motion on the floor. I'm going to do the voting controls, okay? And you simply have to vote, yay or nay. I'm going to start the vote. And this is to approve a, in essence, a two plus one with an RFP.

2576
03:30:18,240 --> 03:30:28,170
Start the vote is started. Make sure you lock in your vote. I have everybody locked in except Councillor Moranoverska.

2577
03:30:54,690 --> 03:31:05,210
Okay, so I'm going to end the vote and it should go up and it is past six to one, okay.

2578
03:31:06,350 --> 03:31:14,010
All right, this is not the end of the meeting for you or for us, but for those of you who

2579
03:31:14,010 --> 03:31:15,030
been here for a long time.

2580
03:31:15,430 --> 03:31:21,270
Thank you for being up to 10.59 PM, okay.

2581
03:31:21,730 --> 03:31:23,770
Let's go ahead and move on to item 17.

2582
03:31:27,550 --> 03:31:28,090
Thank you, Mayor.

2583
03:31:28,230 --> 03:31:32,430
I am 17 is receiving file, a pavement management program presentation update.

2584
03:31:37,560 --> 03:31:37,840
See

2585
03:31:40,820 --> 03:31:42,080
what happens.

2586
03:31:42,600 --> 03:31:44,700
This is actually what happens late in the night.

2587
03:31:45,040 --> 03:31:46,460
I know you got bumped.

2588
03:31:47,520 --> 03:31:48,720
So my apologies to you.

2589
03:31:50,540 --> 03:31:52,360
So I turn it over to you.

2590
03:31:52,680 --> 03:31:53,400
Thank you.

2591
03:31:53,720 --> 03:31:55,780
Good evening mayor council members.

2592
03:31:55,800 --> 03:31:57,040
My name is Matt Polaris.

2593
03:31:57,460 --> 03:32:00,820
Principal civil engineer with the city's public works engineering department.

2594
03:32:01,180 --> 03:32:02,300
I have with me.

2595
03:32:03,040 --> 03:32:03,660
Chaboke.

2596
03:32:05,200 --> 03:32:05,820
Ogbo.

2597
03:32:06,080 --> 03:32:07,780
He's with ICC IMS.

2598
03:32:08,180 --> 03:32:13,340
There are consultant to prepare our latest iteration of our pavement management program.

2599
03:32:13,780 --> 03:32:17,060
As you may know, we go through this process once by every three years.

2600
03:32:17,060 --> 03:32:25,000
It's required in order for the city to maintain various funding that we get from various sources,

2601
03:32:25,840 --> 03:32:33,660
especially through Metro, in order to receive those funds, we have to have a pavement management program that we do an update.

2602
03:32:34,480 --> 03:32:42,140
So may refer to our pavement management program process as a PMP, pavement management program, PMP.

2603
03:32:43,700 --> 03:32:54,920
This is the first year that our city has included alleys in our PMP and it is also the first year in which we've done automated data collection.

2604
03:32:55,620 --> 03:33:09,720
So automated data collection means that we've had vehicles that were automated to collect the payment condition index basically for all the streets in the city, all the streets in the city were driven.

2605
03:33:09,720 --> 03:33:15,560
Before this, the PMP was done on visual evaluation.

2606
03:33:16,040 --> 03:33:23,780
So it's basically we've made the change now to go from human eye vision in evaluation

2607
03:33:23,780 --> 03:33:26,580
of the streets to machine vision essentially.

2608
03:33:27,740 --> 03:33:35,340
So the city's PCI is one of the main criteria that we end up coming up with out of this process,

2609
03:33:35,340 --> 03:33:38,580
This is a pavement condition index, a pavement condition index.

2610
03:33:38,940 --> 03:33:44,700
Is a rating scale, goes from 0 to 100, 0 being worst, 100 being the best.

2611
03:33:45,420 --> 03:33:52,040
And our overall pavement condition index for the city has decreased from 68.

2612
03:33:52,640 --> 03:34:04,120
From the prior pavement study, approximately three years ago, to 55 or 56 without the alleys, 55 with alleys.

2613
03:34:05,360 --> 03:34:09,640
I'd note that a fair amount of that has to do with funding and

2614
03:34:10,240 --> 03:34:15,860
would win the payment management program has indicated.

2615
03:34:17,260 --> 03:34:22,760
For all of your essentially that we've been doing it, that we should be funding the streets at a higher level.

2616
03:34:23,240 --> 03:34:35,220
And when we're not able to manage that much funding to either have the PCI, the condition of the streets maintained, then they will decrease over time.

2617
03:34:35,220 --> 03:34:36,120
and which is what we're seeing.

2618
03:34:36,900 --> 03:34:39,700
The alleys also contributed adding in the alleys,

2619
03:34:39,780 --> 03:34:42,740
contributed to the decrease in the PCI,

2620
03:34:44,600 --> 03:34:47,580
and to book a disagree with me,

2621
03:34:47,700 --> 03:34:49,640
we have our little discussions internally

2622
03:34:49,640 --> 03:34:51,080
on a professional basis.

2623
03:34:51,800 --> 03:34:54,780
My point of view is that the automated data collection

2624
03:34:54,780 --> 03:34:56,080
also had increased.

2625
03:34:56,300 --> 03:35:01,160
I believe that the human eye can often have a deference

2626
03:35:01,160 --> 03:35:03,180
to looking at something

2627
03:35:03,180 --> 03:35:09,480
and, you know, not seeing things as clearly as a machine vision that we used with laser-based

2628
03:35:09,480 --> 03:35:16,420
crack measurement, which Jibuya talked about a little bit, can go down to a millimeter

2629
03:35:16,420 --> 03:35:23,220
crack and see all of them and tell the differences between them. So it's quite amazing what technology

2630
03:35:23,220 --> 03:35:30,320
can do. I'm not going to take up a lot more time, make it introductions. I would like to ask Jibuya

2631
03:35:30,320 --> 03:35:31,100
We are able to come up.

2632
03:35:31,600 --> 03:35:39,900
Chibugue is very well qualified and I'm very glad that we were able to bring ICC, IMS,

2633
03:35:40,320 --> 03:35:42,400
to use company to the city.

2634
03:35:43,200 --> 03:35:45,500
Chibugue is a registered professional civil engineer.

2635
03:35:46,220 --> 03:35:53,320
He also has a PhD in civil engineering from University of New Hampshire.

2636
03:35:53,320 --> 03:36:02,860
So we're very well in good hands, I should say, with Chibugi and ICCIMS, doing the Pavement

2637
03:36:02,860 --> 03:36:07,960
Management System update for the City of Pomona, and if he could bring up our destination.

2638
03:36:11,430 --> 03:36:12,030
Welcome.

2639
03:36:13,050 --> 03:36:13,190
Welcome.

2640
03:36:13,190 --> 03:36:13,790
Thank you so much.

2641
03:36:14,550 --> 03:36:15,870
Welcome to 11.03pm.

2642
03:36:17,410 --> 03:36:19,130
I'm sure you do this all the time.

2643
03:36:19,130 --> 03:36:21,410
You have to call your family.

2644
03:36:22,750 --> 03:36:26,410
Anyway, but it's been a fun experience for us.

2645
03:36:26,490 --> 03:36:26,890
Tell the truth.

2646
03:36:27,350 --> 03:36:28,570
Tell the truth.

2647
03:36:29,790 --> 03:36:35,590
It's been an interesting experience, but I really, I'm really all not to be before you

2648
03:36:35,590 --> 03:36:42,970
guys today to be able to provide you guys some of my professional services and to be able

2649
03:36:42,970 --> 03:36:45,290
to save your community as well.

2650
03:36:46,210 --> 03:36:51,970
We're just getting the PowerPoint or your presentation ready. Thank you. Just out of

2651
03:36:51,970 --> 03:36:53,010
here I said how many slides?

2652
03:36:56,470 --> 03:36:59,950
Yeah, I don't scare them yet. I wouldn't I wouldn't take so much

2653
03:36:59,950 --> 03:37:04,810
of the time. Probably about 25 slides, but I would go for it. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's all.

2654
03:37:05,170 --> 03:37:13,240
Hopefully some big pictures. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Now I'm not going to bore you guys with so many details.

2655
03:37:14,060 --> 03:37:17,140
We are clearly having some technical difficulties.

2656
03:37:17,460 --> 03:37:18,580
You do like the details.

2657
03:37:19,060 --> 03:37:22,800
We can stay here for two or three more hours.

2658
03:37:23,820 --> 03:37:24,820
Very good.

2659
03:37:25,100 --> 03:37:25,980
Very good.

2660
03:40:16,990 --> 03:40:19,970
testing echo testing echo

2661
03:40:19,970 --> 03:40:20,050
No?

2662
03:40:24,150 --> 03:40:25,210
Ever since then.

2663
03:40:25,310 --> 03:40:28,210
A problem was made by the default sour.

2664
03:40:34,080 --> 03:40:34,240
Probably not.

2665
03:40:34,240 --> 03:40:34,460
No?

2666
03:40:35,600 --> 03:40:36,140
No.

2667
03:40:36,560 --> 03:40:37,280
No.

2668
03:40:37,560 --> 03:40:44,580
I think the average is much higher than that.

2669
03:40:44,580 --> 03:40:44,780
Yeah.

2670
03:40:44,780 --> 03:40:46,860
The average is much higher in the third row.

2671
03:40:46,860 --> 03:40:47,140
Yeah.

2672
03:40:53,190 --> 03:40:54,410
The average is much higher in the third row.

2673
03:41:03,530 --> 03:41:03,990
Yeah.

2674
03:41:03,990 --> 03:41:04,050
Yeah.

2675
03:41:04,050 --> 03:41:04,130
Yeah.

2676
03:41:04,130 --> 03:41:04,550
I think it's really a great tip.

2677
03:41:04,550 --> 03:41:04,950
All in all values.

2678
03:41:05,850 --> 03:41:06,350
And you can see the average.

2679
03:41:06,570 --> 03:41:07,290
Yeah.

2680
03:41:07,810 --> 03:41:10,950
And it's one of the most important.

2681
03:41:30,940 --> 03:41:33,780
I made it worse.

2682
03:41:37,600 --> 03:41:38,920
Uh-oh.

2683
03:42:28,660 --> 03:42:30,220
Yeah, I was gonna say

2684
03:42:40,940 --> 03:42:42,920
Different words, maven, maverick.

2685
03:42:46,800 --> 03:42:47,420
Did you have it?

2686
03:42:47,720 --> 03:42:48,080
Did you have it?

2687
03:42:51,120 --> 03:42:52,340
Are we good?

2688
03:42:52,860 --> 03:42:53,360
I don't know.

2689
03:42:54,460 --> 03:42:54,960
I'm happy.

2690
03:42:58,160 --> 03:43:03,640
By the way, I passed for a like a three-three-three.

2691
03:43:03,920 --> 03:43:04,900
I'm in the sauna.

2692
03:43:05,260 --> 03:43:06,660
Test, test, test, test.

2693
03:43:07,040 --> 03:43:08,540
I think we're going to be coming back with it.

2694
03:43:08,740 --> 03:43:09,260
Test, test?

2695
03:43:09,260 --> 03:43:12,960
Yes, the most important thing is do you have your presentation?

2696
03:43:13,640 --> 03:43:14,260
Yes, you do.

2697
03:43:14,400 --> 03:43:15,940
Okay, very good, very good, very good.

2698
03:43:16,240 --> 03:43:18,600
A man who's prepared this while you have a presentation.

2699
03:43:20,120 --> 03:43:23,340
Welcome, welcome to an 11-11 p.m. meeting.

2700
03:43:23,840 --> 03:43:24,820
Thank you so much.

2701
03:43:25,120 --> 03:43:26,060
We turn it over to you.

2702
03:43:26,940 --> 03:43:28,920
I appreciate you, Mr. Mayor.

2703
03:43:29,380 --> 03:43:30,780
And cancer members.

2704
03:43:31,620 --> 03:43:36,100
It's an honor to be before you guys today to be able to provide our services.

2705
03:43:37,820 --> 03:43:43,840
And like Matt already prefaced, this is the pavement management program we're going to talk about.

2706
03:43:44,120 --> 03:43:50,180
I try as much as possible to keep this very brief and then I'll definitely leave time for some questions.

2707
03:43:51,340 --> 03:43:57,060
A quick agenda would quickly talk through the pavement management process what that looks like.

2708
03:43:57,060 --> 03:44:04,960
And then we talk about the pavement conditions survey which is where we start talking about the PCI, the pavement condition index.

2709
03:44:04,960 --> 03:44:10,980
it was talking about which is our current system, then I'll give some examples of what

2710
03:44:10,980 --> 03:44:16,380
representatives condition like when I say a piece of a certain number that typically looks

2711
03:44:16,380 --> 03:44:21,700
like visually when you look at it while you're driving through your streets and then I'll give an

2712
03:44:21,700 --> 03:44:27,600
overview of what your overall network payment condition looks like and then we'll talk more about

2713
03:44:27,600 --> 03:44:33,280
the analysis and some of the project planning that we kind of projected into the future here.

2714
03:44:34,320 --> 03:44:40,540
So if we quickly go to the slide 4, that's what our payment management process typically

2715
03:44:40,540 --> 03:44:41,300
looks like.

2716
03:44:41,440 --> 03:44:43,300
It's an iterative process.

2717
03:44:43,540 --> 03:44:48,380
It's not something you do one time and you run with it forever, something we always have

2718
03:44:48,380 --> 03:44:48,880
to iterate.

2719
03:44:49,260 --> 03:44:55,300
So the first step is we typically come, we talk with the city of staff, we try to understand

2720
03:44:55,300 --> 03:44:56,860
what you're looking to accomplish.

2721
03:44:56,860 --> 03:44:59,900
as a short-term and a long-term cause we can.

2722
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:29,880
We plan for something we don't have an idea of. And then the second thing is where we actually come in and we also assess the pavement conditions as well. I tried to equate it to going to the doctor to do a yearly checkup or something to get an idea of what the condition of your body is very similar to the pavement in its regular checkup as well to have an idea what the condition of the pavement is. And then it's not just knowing the condition will take that condition.

2723
03:45:29,880 --> 03:45:31,660
and we interpret that into results,

2724
03:45:32,000 --> 03:45:34,020
we put that into analysis framework,

2725
03:45:34,360 --> 03:45:35,700
and that's how we're able to come up

2726
03:45:35,700 --> 03:45:38,400
with how to know exactly what rules

2727
03:45:38,400 --> 03:45:40,520
we need to prioritize in a certain year,

2728
03:45:40,680 --> 03:45:43,560
what rules we focus our funds on each year.

2729
03:45:43,720 --> 03:45:46,320
So it's usually a five year program,

2730
03:45:46,540 --> 03:45:48,640
we usually do a three to five year program,

2731
03:45:48,840 --> 03:45:50,120
that's what you typically see.

2732
03:45:50,860 --> 03:45:53,340
And then like I mentioned, once we give you the spline,

2733
03:45:53,480 --> 03:45:54,960
you take that you execute on it,

2734
03:45:55,220 --> 03:45:56,620
you're able to take your funds,

2735
03:45:56,800 --> 03:45:59,180
actually apply the treatment to your pavement,

2736
03:45:59,180 --> 03:46:00,900
and then you come back to us again,

2737
03:46:00,920 --> 03:46:03,220
and we do the iterative process.

2738
03:46:03,540 --> 03:46:05,060
So we start again from the beginning.

2739
03:46:05,240 --> 03:46:08,660
We evaluate where we got to with your plan

2740
03:46:08,660 --> 03:46:11,080
and see if you're trying to change your objectives.

2741
03:46:11,440 --> 03:46:14,280
And then we walk with that and we do the same process again.

2742
03:46:16,440 --> 03:46:18,760
So the pavement condition itself,

2743
03:46:18,980 --> 03:46:20,620
so the pavement, like I mentioned,

2744
03:46:20,800 --> 03:46:22,080
is just like a human as well.

2745
03:46:22,200 --> 03:46:25,200
The same way we age a pavement ages over time,

2746
03:46:25,200 --> 03:46:27,340
which means it gets worse, right?

2747
03:46:27,340 --> 03:46:34,600
So what we are actually looking at in a slide five is what a typical degradation of your pavement will look like.

2748
03:46:34,820 --> 03:46:42,820
So typically within the first 40% of its life usually expect about the 15% drop in its in its life.

2749
03:46:43,500 --> 03:46:51,600
And then eventually after that then start to degrade really quickly because you start to have a lot of distresses up here on your surface.

2750
03:46:51,600 --> 03:46:57,880
And then once you start having slight cracks, you start having an ingress of water into your pavement and it becomes worse

2751
03:46:57,880 --> 03:47:03,160
That's how you start seeing a lot of pot holes on your pavements, and that's not what we want to see

2752
03:47:03,160 --> 03:47:09,640
So the idea for us is how do we make sure we're actually capturing and applying the least

2753
03:47:09,640 --> 03:47:14,040
cross-lit treatment, which is typically what we do within the

2754
03:47:14,040 --> 03:47:18,300
That first few 40% of it's like when it's still in a good condition

2755
03:47:18,300 --> 03:47:22,780
So it's very similar to applying a bandaid versus doing a major surgery.

2756
03:47:23,180 --> 03:47:25,560
You always prefer to go with the bandaid first.

2757
03:47:25,900 --> 03:47:29,440
So we know the bandaid is always going to be cheaper for you.

2758
03:47:29,600 --> 03:47:34,800
So how do we capture the pavement when it's still at that least expensive treatment?

2759
03:47:34,940 --> 03:47:38,360
Is there waiting for the time when you have to do a major surgery on it?

2760
03:47:38,760 --> 03:47:41,280
So that's the way we usually think about pavement management.

2761
03:47:42,740 --> 03:47:47,300
And then like I mentioned then slide this is just showing you how once you're

2762
03:47:47,300 --> 03:47:51,520
able to capture during that period when it's still in a good condition, you're able to

2763
03:47:51,520 --> 03:47:56,040
apply that, bind it on it. What we're able to do is buy more time for a pavement, you're

2764
03:47:56,040 --> 03:48:00,940
able to extend the life. However, if you let it degrade over time and you're having to

2765
03:48:00,940 --> 03:48:06,640
spend so much money doing that major surgery, start to realize like you're taking so much

2766
03:48:06,640 --> 03:48:12,580
money you could spend initially, and you're only spending it on this small segment of your

2767
03:48:12,580 --> 03:48:18,540
roadway instead of being able to cover a major area of your network with similar funds.

2768
03:48:19,180 --> 03:48:22,160
So which is the whole top process behind payment management?

2769
03:48:22,420 --> 03:48:25,220
How do we make sure we're keeping the good payment good?

2770
03:48:25,660 --> 03:48:31,240
As well as we know that some of them are already back in a bad condition, as they also get those

2771
03:48:31,240 --> 03:48:32,780
ones to be in a good condition.

2772
03:48:33,300 --> 03:48:37,380
So it's always a place where we're trying to balance the two.

2773
03:48:37,580 --> 03:48:42,240
Keeping good ones good and also keeping the bad ones and bringing it up to the good

2774
03:48:42,240 --> 03:48:48,500
condition as well. And then the payment condition survey itself, so this is where we actually

2775
03:48:48,500 --> 03:48:56,580
come in as well and like Mike had also hinted at what we're able to do in here with transition

2776
03:48:56,580 --> 03:49:02,980
from the visual survey which you typically do, which is usually you send people out to go look

2777
03:49:02,980 --> 03:49:09,900
at the payment and rate it. And if I send Mr. A out and I send Mr. B are they usually come back with

2778
03:49:09,900 --> 03:49:14,800
different results. So what an automated system allows you to do your applies

2779
03:49:14,800 --> 03:49:19,660
objectivity to your actual rating of the pavement itself. So you send an

2780
03:49:19,660 --> 03:49:24,220
automated system, if you send it out today and you send it out a few hours later

2781
03:49:24,220 --> 03:49:28,140
you're most likely getting similar results. But if you send it out today and send it

2782
03:49:28,140 --> 03:49:32,760
out three years down the line, shouldn't be expecting the same results because you're

2783
03:49:32,760 --> 03:49:37,620
expecting your pavement to continue to degrade over time. But the whole idea is being

2784
03:49:37,620 --> 03:49:42,540
able to be objective and be able to have something you can always compare to the previous

2785
03:49:42,540 --> 03:49:47,360
values. You actually have a right to know I'm actually doing better. I might get in

2786
03:49:47,360 --> 03:49:54,540
worse with the condition of my pavement. So when you actually go out, I'm talking about the

2787
03:49:54,540 --> 03:49:59,140
condition of the pavement, we're talking about the pavement condition index, but what you recognize

2788
03:49:59,140 --> 03:50:05,520
are the cracks, what you recognize are the pot holes, what you recognize are the different patches.

2789
03:50:05,520 --> 03:50:09,500
These are the things you typically recognize as you are driving through the pavement.

2790
03:50:09,780 --> 03:50:14,220
But for us, we convert that into numbers, which is where the pavement condition index

2791
03:50:14,220 --> 03:50:15,220
comes into play.

2792
03:50:16,020 --> 03:50:18,580
So we go out, what are vendors?

2793
03:50:18,920 --> 03:50:26,160
It has lasers, tandem lasers that drive through the entire network collecting images of the

2794
03:50:26,160 --> 03:50:26,960
pavement itself.

2795
03:50:27,580 --> 03:50:32,560
So based on those images, the conditions, all those cracks we're talking about, the pot

2796
03:50:32,560 --> 03:50:37,960
holds the patches, we're able to capture the stains on the images and then we have an algorithm that

2797
03:50:37,960 --> 03:50:43,300
goes through and rates all the stains detect and the width of the crack, the depth of the crack,

2798
03:50:43,780 --> 03:50:49,360
so we're able to interpret all the stains into practical results, which comes into that payment

2799
03:50:49,360 --> 03:50:54,500
condition index. So just to understand Matt's not making this stuff up then.

2800
03:50:55,780 --> 03:51:00,730
He's actually, he's relying on the scientists to give him accurate information, so when we talk

2801
03:51:00,730 --> 03:51:07,050
And we know we know Matt's getting the real the real information correct. Thank you. Yeah, so

2802
03:51:07,050 --> 03:51:12,650
This is different. So basically when I'm talking about the spot holes the packs is the cracks

2803
03:51:12,650 --> 03:51:18,250
That's what I refer to as the distress is right. So you look at the distress type. You look at the

2804
03:51:18,250 --> 03:51:25,390
Distress severity and you look at the extent all these things are what eventually we put all together into what we

2805
03:51:25,390 --> 03:51:29,770
caught up pavement condition index and it goes from 0 to 100.

2806
03:51:30,010 --> 03:51:34,570
The 0 means very bad, 100 means brand new pavement.

2807
03:51:35,110 --> 03:51:38,430
So we always want something that is closer to 100 for us.

2808
03:51:38,890 --> 03:51:41,170
So we have the frame grading systems.

2809
03:51:41,170 --> 03:51:44,710
We have the frame categories in which we put this numbers going

2810
03:51:44,710 --> 03:51:46,150
from that 0 to 100.

2811
03:51:46,770 --> 03:51:48,750
And that's what we actually have in this slide

2812
03:51:48,750 --> 03:51:52,410
turning here from that good all the way to field.

2813
03:51:52,410 --> 03:52:01,030
So we have ranges of PC that gets into this that we actually categorize into the different categories, which I'll still talk more about.

2814
03:52:02,230 --> 03:52:12,050
So if we're actually going to represent it with payment conditions, this is where you actually start to recognize some of your streets from slide 12 in here.

2815
03:52:12,170 --> 03:52:19,570
A very good example, something that we say is in a failed condition is usually something that goes from a zero to 10 points.

2816
03:52:19,570 --> 03:52:24,450
and within that hundred points range we get for a zero to a ten point that's

2817
03:52:24,450 --> 03:52:28,770
what we'll consider as failed and that's a good example which we have in East

2818
03:52:28,770 --> 03:52:32,710
Olives streets and pretty sure that's a road you don't like driving on because

2819
03:52:32,710 --> 03:52:41,870
of how bad it looks exactly so that shows you an example of what a failed

2820
03:52:41,870 --> 03:52:46,730
condition looks like and at that point it even becomes a safety concern as well so

2821
03:52:46,730 --> 03:52:49,490
that we don't want our streets looking like that.

2822
03:52:50,070 --> 03:52:53,010
And if we move further, we have a serious condition

2823
03:52:53,010 --> 03:52:55,290
very close to a third condition as well.

2824
03:52:55,390 --> 03:52:58,330
That goes from an 11 to a 25 points, right?

2825
03:52:58,810 --> 03:53:01,590
And a good example there is that Westwood Avenue,

2826
03:53:02,130 --> 03:53:03,810
you can see what that looks like.

2827
03:53:03,930 --> 03:53:06,290
You have a lot of that cracking as one of the major

2828
03:53:06,290 --> 03:53:08,350
distress is showing up on the surface.

2829
03:53:08,930 --> 03:53:10,510
And if we're going to the next one,

2830
03:53:10,570 --> 03:53:12,130
which is a very poor condition,

2831
03:53:12,130 --> 03:53:15,330
going from a PCI, which is the payment condition index

2832
03:53:15,330 --> 03:53:22,030
of a 26 to a 40 and a good example on this East Iowa highway you can see what that looks like

2833
03:53:22,030 --> 03:53:26,110
probably not as bad as the one you drive every day.

2834
03:53:28,930 --> 03:53:31,710
Well and then we see what we'll call

2835
03:53:31,710 --> 03:53:39,110
a park condition as well arranged between a 41 to a 55 we see an example of that do point place

2836
03:53:39,730 --> 03:53:46,010
street, and then we're going to a fair condition, starting to look a lot better from a fair upwards,

2837
03:53:46,570 --> 03:53:51,430
and you can see a very good example, the real rancher road, which is just minor cracking

2838
03:53:51,430 --> 03:53:58,470
showing up on the surface. Just a crack on the surface, but it's not as extensive as the

2839
03:53:58,470 --> 03:54:03,810
previous ones we've been looking at. And then we're getting to a satisfactory condition.

2840
03:54:03,810 --> 03:54:11,130
usually goes from a range of 71 to 185, it gets getting very close to a big grade in here.

2841
03:54:12,010 --> 03:54:16,150
So typically you look at that pavement and you can barely even see the distress, you can

2842
03:54:16,150 --> 03:54:23,090
barely see the cracks, it's very rare, you're going to see a pothole on a PCI that's considered

2843
03:54:23,090 --> 03:54:29,550
a satisfactory condition. And we have a good example there on South Reservoir Road and then a good

2844
03:54:29,550 --> 03:54:35,670
condition which is typically representative of a brand new pavement. We can see a very good one

2845
03:54:35,670 --> 03:54:41,390
there at East Laverna Avenue. I wouldn't be surprised it was probably paid within the past

2846
03:54:41,910 --> 03:54:51,010
four, five years or less. But then general overview of the condition of your entire network. We have

2847
03:54:51,010 --> 03:54:58,130
a graph there on slide 20 just to give you a big picture of the entire Pomona. What are we looking at?

2848
03:54:58,130 --> 03:55:06,410
And we can see that on an average, we have, if we look at an average condition, we have

2849
03:55:06,410 --> 03:55:08,670
that at a 55 currently.

2850
03:55:09,470 --> 03:55:13,430
I'm pretty sure if you're a student and you get a 55%, so that's not a good grade.

2851
03:55:13,950 --> 03:55:18,430
Unless you're in the sciences, sometimes a freshman, really good grade, but we know that's

2852
03:55:18,430 --> 03:55:18,890
not the case.

2853
03:55:18,970 --> 03:55:19,550
It's not good.

2854
03:55:21,030 --> 03:55:26,110
Well, that gives you like an idea of where the entire network is, and we're talking about

2855
03:55:26,110 --> 03:55:29,190
about 406 cm of roadway, right?

2856
03:55:30,510 --> 03:55:32,930
And we also have what we consider a backlog.

2857
03:55:33,090 --> 03:55:35,550
Backlog is typically where we have to actually

2858
03:55:35,550 --> 03:55:37,930
do that major surgery I was talking about.

2859
03:55:38,110 --> 03:55:41,530
So we can see that we have almost 48% of your roads

2860
03:55:42,150 --> 03:55:43,310
needing major surgery.

2861
03:55:46,330 --> 03:55:48,230
So we're way down the line.

2862
03:55:48,230 --> 03:55:50,130
It's kind of a shock to this entire city council.

2863
03:55:53,590 --> 03:55:55,970
And then just to give you a little bit of an idea,

2864
03:55:55,970 --> 03:55:58,370
because you have different types of streets.

2865
03:55:58,570 --> 03:56:00,810
You have the ones that carry the most of the traffic,

2866
03:56:00,830 --> 03:56:03,250
which we usually refer to as the arterios

2867
03:56:03,710 --> 03:56:04,950
and your collectors.

2868
03:56:05,290 --> 03:56:06,690
And then you have your local roads

2869
03:56:06,690 --> 03:56:08,130
taking you into your homes,

2870
03:56:08,790 --> 03:56:10,390
as well as your alleys as well,

2871
03:56:10,570 --> 03:56:14,710
which has also hinted that we just recently added that.

2872
03:56:14,950 --> 03:56:16,390
It happens to be that your alleys

2873
03:56:16,390 --> 03:56:19,310
is in the worst condition, which is not surprising.

2874
03:56:19,530 --> 03:56:22,230
Because again, this is the first time we actually...

2875
03:56:23,810 --> 03:56:29,730
This is the first time we're actually adding that into the entire network inventory as

2876
03:56:29,730 --> 03:56:29,950
well.

2877
03:56:30,570 --> 03:56:35,330
But it's not surprising that most of the time the highly trafficked road to waste tend

2878
03:56:35,330 --> 03:56:40,430
to be in a decent condition because if you're not in a good condition, I see the way

2879
03:56:40,430 --> 03:56:45,430
your residents have been calling in, they probably call you more if the roads that are trafficked

2880
03:56:45,430 --> 03:56:49,650
by a lot of people are not in a decent condition, you get more costs.

2881
03:56:49,650 --> 03:56:56,510
So most of the time those roads, the arterios, tend to be in a much better condition than

2882
03:56:56,510 --> 03:57:00,570
the local roads and the alleys, which is what we are seeing here in this slide.

2883
03:57:02,430 --> 03:57:07,610
And then just to give you an idea of the percentage of your roads that fall into the different

2884
03:57:07,610 --> 03:57:14,710
categories, you have your local roads that actually occupy almost 50% of the roadway within Pomona

2885
03:57:14,710 --> 03:57:20,110
is actually local roads. Again, this also gives you an idea of the different, because I was talking

2886
03:57:20,110 --> 03:57:26,690
with Mark earlier, he says, the different funding you get typically kind of ties back to where that

2887
03:57:26,690 --> 03:57:31,770
funding goes as to the kind of roads you can actually through the kind of funds as well. So it's not

2888
03:57:31,770 --> 03:57:37,070
surprising that when you have the maturity of your roads as a local road, kind of funding that is

2889
03:57:37,070 --> 03:57:42,050
available to just the local roads, again, might be problematic as well. So you would tend to see them

2890
03:57:42,050 --> 03:57:46,190
in a much poor condition or bad condition compared to the

2891
03:57:46,190 --> 03:57:49,690
materials. But you can see there that the local roots make up

2892
03:57:49,690 --> 03:57:53,910
almost half of your entire inventory. And what we are looking

2893
03:57:53,910 --> 03:57:56,930
at is in terms of area, because if we look at it in terms of

2894
03:57:56,930 --> 03:58:00,470
just the length, it wouldn't necessarily be objectives, because

2895
03:58:00,470 --> 03:58:04,310
we have some roots that are falling six lanes. If we just say,

2896
03:58:04,390 --> 03:58:06,870
hey, we're just looking at the length, it might not be an

2897
03:58:06,870 --> 03:58:09,890
objective way to look at it. So we look at it in terms of the

2898
03:58:09,890 --> 03:58:13,930
areas of the entire payment you have accessible to you.

2899
03:58:16,470 --> 03:58:21,670
And then if you open up to the slide on slide 23,

2900
03:58:21,670 --> 03:58:24,050
it actually gives you like a general summary

2901
03:58:24,050 --> 03:58:25,690
of the entire network as well.

2902
03:58:25,850 --> 03:58:28,070
There are so many numbers in there, which I don't want

2903
03:58:28,070 --> 03:58:31,510
us to spend so much time looking at those different numbers.

2904
03:58:32,330 --> 03:58:34,370
But just a few things to actually pick out

2905
03:58:34,370 --> 03:58:36,590
there is how we'll be able to break down

2906
03:58:36,590 --> 03:58:39,990
the entire network into these different functional classes

2907
03:58:39,990 --> 03:58:45,490
is like I mentioned the materials. You can see how that's looking like in terms of the condition.

2908
03:58:45,750 --> 03:58:49,790
I know we're looking at it in form of a graph. But if you ever wanted to see the numbers as well,

2909
03:58:50,010 --> 03:58:55,270
you can start to see the numbers in here. You can have an idea of what the lane miles is. So lane

2910
03:58:55,270 --> 03:59:00,770
miles is also another objective way of looking at it in a linear manner. So what we're able to do,

2911
03:59:00,870 --> 03:59:06,010
we're able to standardize it based on, take the number of lanes and standardizes and that's how

2912
03:59:06,010 --> 03:59:07,550
we're able to have lane miles.

2913
03:59:07,730 --> 03:59:09,670
So that's also a standard way of looking at it,

2914
03:59:10,070 --> 03:59:12,170
a size looking at the pavement areas as well.

2915
03:59:12,870 --> 03:59:15,410
And then you can see what the conditions are.

2916
03:59:15,690 --> 03:59:18,850
It's also broken down into you also have your asphalt roads,

2917
03:59:19,030 --> 03:59:20,430
as well as your concrete roads.

2918
03:59:20,750 --> 03:59:24,150
You can see that most likely your asphalt tends

2919
03:59:24,150 --> 03:59:26,670
to be in a better condition than the concrete ones,

2920
03:59:26,830 --> 03:59:29,030
which I'm pretty sure you guys can attach to

2921
03:59:29,030 --> 03:59:30,830
by how bumpy your concrete roads are.

2922
03:59:32,550 --> 03:59:34,490
So, and then when we actually come down

2923
03:59:34,490 --> 03:59:40,170
to the analysis in which we conducted the payment management plan itself. So the first thing

2924
03:59:40,170 --> 03:59:45,290
that we actually take into account, we like to know what the rehab activities you guys

2925
03:59:45,290 --> 03:59:53,010
do perform on your roads there. So this is where we start to break things down. So the first two

2926
03:59:53,010 --> 03:59:58,850
there, it's what we usually refer to as very similar to your bandages, whenever you think about

2927
03:59:58,850 --> 03:59:59,910
the slo-r-e-s-e-s-n.

2928
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:29,280
The KFCO, those are the typical examples of what we'll look at as abandoned and put in a blended on the pavement. And then we start to talk about things like an overlay, which means you're pretty much resurfacing the entire pavement or even taking out the old stuff and just putting it in a new one, which you typically refers to are reconstructing the entire road. Those are the ones that are usually cost the most to perform. So if you start to look at the numbers in there, you see how

2929
04:00:29,280 --> 04:00:38,120
It differs significantly between the seals versus those overlay and the reconstruction. So we take this numbers as well

2930
04:00:38,120 --> 04:00:42,900
Like I mentioned we take this numbers. We implement them into your entire network

2931
04:00:42,900 --> 04:00:51,860
So what we usually do we try to rank the entire network and based on that ranking system will come up with the prioritization of okay

2932
04:00:51,860 --> 04:00:57,500
This is probably within the next five years. This is probably where you want to focus your funds now

2933
04:00:57,500 --> 04:01:06,500
And we also do more of different funding models as well to look at what different funding

2934
04:01:06,500 --> 04:01:09,800
could get you and how far it could get you from a condition standpoint.

2935
04:01:11,160 --> 04:01:16,840
And that's how we get into the most important slide you probably have to talk about here,

2936
04:01:16,880 --> 04:01:19,000
which is this our five year funding model.

2937
04:01:19,840 --> 04:01:24,340
And what this is pretty much showing us is, on the horizontal axis, we are looking at

2938
04:01:24,340 --> 04:01:29,920
your budget in terms of a million per year funding level and then on the

2939
04:01:29,920 --> 04:01:34,580
vertical axis you're looking at the condition. So it's not surprising that the

2940
04:01:34,580 --> 04:01:40,340
money you have available better the condition that's just just a no-brainer in

2941
04:01:40,340 --> 04:01:45,520
there but we're actually looking at the specific numbers we're able to run

2942
04:01:46,180 --> 04:01:50,300
not wanting to go into the different details but one thing that is very

2943
04:01:50,300 --> 04:01:56,620
significance just at the current level your entire network is if you're trying to

2944
04:01:56,620 --> 04:02:00,480
maintain just that level which is the red line we're looking at that you probably

2945
04:02:00,480 --> 04:02:07,520
need to spend about 25 million each year just to maintain it at this current level so

2946
04:02:07,520 --> 04:02:13,980
anything less than that means you're getting worse how do you tell us how to get that money

2947
04:02:17,220 --> 04:02:21,260
is laughing. Let the record note that he's laughing.

2948
04:02:22,340 --> 04:02:28,300
No, we actually do understand this is a challenge for every

2949
04:02:28,300 --> 04:02:31,620
single municipality. I was even having conversations with Matt

2950
04:02:32,280 --> 04:02:36,600
before we even jumped on here. Just discussing different funding

2951
04:02:37,380 --> 04:02:41,440
strategies you guys have for your pavements and things maybe

2952
04:02:41,440 --> 04:02:47,960
And it's good to know that you guys are in good hands because he's thought about different

2953
04:02:47,960 --> 04:02:53,940
ways as well in which, in everything I threw at him, he's like, yeah, we thought about

2954
04:02:53,940 --> 04:02:58,720
getting some money through this and that and the friend grants here and their different

2955
04:02:58,720 --> 04:02:59,260
bonds.

2956
04:02:59,800 --> 04:03:05,000
I'm like that's usually what most municipalities have to do to be able to at least catch up.

2957
04:03:05,320 --> 04:03:10,700
So, but just to give you a big picture of, you know, your current condition if you're looking

2958
04:03:10,700 --> 04:03:19,360
to improve. You probably need to invest more, which is just honest. So a very similar chat also

2959
04:03:19,360 --> 04:03:25,580
in slide 27, but in this case, you're actually seeing how those different models change each

2960
04:03:25,580 --> 04:03:31,180
year as well, but it's just a very similar information that, you know, depending on how much you

2961
04:03:31,180 --> 04:03:36,600
have available to you, that's also what's going to determine what your overall condition is going to

2962
04:03:36,600 --> 04:03:39,400
to look like at the end of the next five-year cycle.

2963
04:03:40,320 --> 04:03:41,460
But yeah, that's pretty much it.

2964
04:03:46,060 --> 04:03:46,500
All right.

2965
04:03:48,040 --> 04:03:51,660
As we typically do, we ask if there are any brave souls

2966
04:03:52,120 --> 04:03:54,120
out there who wish to speak on this item.

2967
04:03:55,980 --> 04:03:57,080
We don't have any.

2968
04:03:58,320 --> 04:04:00,960
Council, is there anyone who'd like to speak?

2969
04:04:01,320 --> 04:04:02,540
I just have two points to make,

2970
04:04:02,700 --> 04:04:04,880
but let's go with Council Member Garcia,

2971
04:04:05,380 --> 04:04:06,440
the Martin and the Canalas.

2972
04:04:10,620 --> 04:04:12,680
Thank you for the presentation.

2973
04:04:12,680 --> 04:04:23,920
Mr. Pillars, earlier this season, I can't even say last month, but I think it was very close to about a month ago.

2974
04:04:24,830 --> 04:04:32,300
You sent me a wonderful plan for the pavement, for district three, for the next few years.

2975
04:04:32,880 --> 04:04:36,960
And unfortunately, and fortunately, because every street needs help.

2976
04:04:36,960 --> 04:04:44,720
We're paving around all of, but the street that was chosen as the failed example is not getting paved.

2977
04:04:45,140 --> 04:04:54,540
And I just want to take this moment to make my comment, which is my every three year plea it seems that I understand it's going to cost more money.

2978
04:04:54,820 --> 04:05:01,880
And we're going to be able to do less streets because it costs more money, but all of in county have to get paved.

2979
04:05:01,880 --> 04:05:07,160
they they definitely cannot wait there's I think I gave you a list of like five

2980
04:05:07,160 --> 04:05:13,200
streets around my like must get done lists and all of the county are on there as

2981
04:05:13,200 --> 04:05:17,080
well as that cul-de-sac Taliban because they're just basically gravel at this

2982
04:05:17,080 --> 04:05:22,840
point with that being said I believe that every single council member on this

2983
04:05:22,840 --> 04:05:28,440
dius gets calls at least on a weekly basis from one person or another who

2984
04:05:28,440 --> 04:05:32,180
who reminds us that their street has not been paved in 25 years.

2985
04:05:33,140 --> 04:05:42,840
So with that being said, anything we could do with a magic wand or a grant or a bond,

2986
04:05:43,240 --> 04:05:49,640
to take care of streets like all of that are in failed condition first, I would appreciate.

2987
04:05:49,980 --> 04:05:51,200
And that's my only comment.

2988
04:05:51,200 --> 04:05:55,020
If that might make a brief response, Council Member.

2989
04:05:56,080 --> 04:06:01,360
So we are listening to your concerns and your requests.

2990
04:06:02,200 --> 04:06:08,780
And as part of one of the consent items that you approved earlier this evening, there

2991
04:06:08,780 --> 04:06:14,640
is a remnant of, we call ATPC4 job in the city's CIP.

2992
04:06:14,860 --> 04:06:20,160
Its proper name is Pomona Multineigh Neighborhood Bike and Pedestrian Project.

2993
04:06:20,160 --> 04:06:25,500
It's the same project that we built the first roundabouts for the city, three roundabouts.

2994
04:06:25,720 --> 04:06:29,860
We paid most all of ninth street, paid a number of other streets, put bicycle facilities,

2995
04:06:30,260 --> 04:06:31,680
ballbots and a number of areas.

2996
04:06:33,080 --> 04:06:40,280
But that project has second phase into it and as part of what you approve with the consent

2997
04:06:40,280 --> 04:06:44,260
agenda was an amendment to RKA Group's contract.

2998
04:06:44,260 --> 04:06:48,880
And in that second phase, is county Aula,

2999
04:06:49,060 --> 04:06:53,280
there's some other streets in the city as well in various parts of the city.

3000
04:06:53,480 --> 04:06:56,740
So we're not, you know, can't concentrate everything in one district.

3001
04:06:57,080 --> 04:07:03,060
But we are looking to prepare documents for those streets.

3002
04:07:03,680 --> 04:07:07,500
I don't know that we'll be able to afford both of them in the near future,

3003
04:07:07,500 --> 04:07:12,100
but being that we did recently just pave all of the cul-de-sacs

3004
04:07:12,100 --> 04:07:35,020
along the south side of County is is a good step in the city on a come in the city for doing it in that order doing the call to sex first and then County, you know, next in time, even though I understand you may make it pressure otherwise from constituents and I understand residents, you know, I really wants their street paved in a better condition, but by doing the call to sex first.

3005
04:07:35,020 --> 04:07:40,660
first and then county subsequently, then we don't have to retraft like a brand new

3006
04:07:40,660 --> 04:07:46,480
county road street to then get into the cul-de-sac. So I believe we are proceeding in the proper

3007
04:07:46,480 --> 04:07:49,520
order and we are making progress towards your goal.

3008
04:07:50,240 --> 04:07:56,160
Thank you. I'm very methodical sometimes and I appreciate going from the south up. That

3009
04:07:56,160 --> 04:07:59,900
makes sense to me. So thank you, Mr. Polaris. And I appreciate your work.

3010
04:08:01,280 --> 04:08:02,920
Thank you. Council Member Mourning.

3011
04:08:04,300 --> 04:08:15,800
Well, first of all, thank you for your presentation and welcome to Pomona and this evening is only in Pomona, this kind of meetings happen.

3012
04:08:16,060 --> 04:08:17,820
So it's going to be a lot of fun.

3013
04:08:18,020 --> 04:08:25,540
I've shared this with other staff, new staff members, but we love Pomona and the more you're here, you're going to love it as much.

3014
04:08:25,540 --> 04:08:26,880
So welcome.

3015
04:08:26,880 --> 04:08:44,060
and then for you Matt and for me and Arnold, thank you for having the meeting today to fill me in a little bit more about this presentation so I could understand it inside and out and I really appreciate all this information. Thank you.

3016
04:08:44,320 --> 04:08:44,880
Thank you.

3017
04:08:48,110 --> 04:08:50,870
So my understanding is that you do

3018
04:08:52,230 --> 04:08:53,930
repayment based on districts

3019
04:08:53,930 --> 04:08:55,690
from every two years,

3020
04:08:56,370 --> 04:08:58,610
or is it just the need?

3021
04:08:59,430 --> 04:09:01,530
So we do have

3022
04:09:02,850 --> 04:09:04,750
the process that we go through

3023
04:09:04,750 --> 04:09:07,170
where we do the districts

3024
04:09:07,170 --> 04:09:08,470
in the south part of the city

3025
04:09:08,470 --> 04:09:09,370
in one year,

3026
04:09:10,050 --> 04:09:11,730
and then we do the

3027
04:09:13,010 --> 04:09:14,370
districts in the north part

3028
04:09:14,370 --> 04:09:15,850
of the city the following year.

3029
04:09:15,850 --> 04:09:21,410
So if that's the two years that you're referring to, Councilmember, I believe, that is a process

3030
04:09:21,410 --> 04:09:26,990
we implemented to try and make the most of any one year's funding.

3031
04:09:27,470 --> 04:09:34,210
When we try to spend the funding over the whole city, then the contractor has to remobilize

3032
04:09:34,210 --> 04:09:36,430
basically to all these different locations, right?

3033
04:09:36,890 --> 04:09:42,750
And so if we concentrate in one year in one area of the city, the contractors' remobilizations

3034
04:09:42,750 --> 04:09:47,690
are much less and and we can get you know fair amount of work done or more work done

3035
04:09:47,690 --> 04:09:51,970
for the same amount of dollars because a contractor doesn't have to remobilize to a bunch of

3036
04:09:51,970 --> 04:09:57,250
different locations. I think that answers the one part of your question the other part of your

3037
04:09:57,250 --> 04:10:08,570
questions. I think district six is up at this point. Yes so in 2027 we are starting to prepare the

3038
04:10:08,570 --> 04:10:14,750
construction documents for the streets in the north part of the city which would include district six yes and if I know

3039
04:10:14,750 --> 04:10:20,650
Someone I think you sent me a list of the streets that may be repaved and or redone

3040
04:10:21,350 --> 04:10:28,430
If there's a street that we can't that we really feel like I mean because the residents are concerned they have been done

3041
04:10:28,430 --> 04:10:31,310
According to the residents 30 years 40 years

3042
04:10:31,310 --> 04:10:36,410
Can we suggest that we re-evaluate those particular streets?

3043
04:10:36,410 --> 04:10:41,090
definitely. You know residents can reach out to the public works engineering

3044
04:10:41,090 --> 04:10:45,310
department, the council members, if you need to reach out to me in a

3045
04:10:45,310 --> 04:10:48,890
particular circumstance, please feel free to do that. I know in a perfect

3046
04:10:48,890 --> 04:10:54,250
world, you know, everybody should be and I would like to live in is just do

3047
04:10:54,250 --> 04:10:58,650
the PMP and you follow it and everything is perfect. But in the real world, you

3048
04:10:58,650 --> 04:11:05,030
know, PMP is a very important tool. So I'm very grateful to ICC and IMS's work and

3049
04:11:05,030 --> 04:11:09,010
to help and should movies help to put the document together, but PMP is part of the picture.

3050
04:11:09,630 --> 04:11:13,950
Resident requests come into play, council member requests, grants and grant funding.

3051
04:11:14,010 --> 04:11:17,930
Sometimes they only let us work on certain types of streets with certain types of work.

3052
04:11:18,730 --> 04:11:22,630
Developments we take into account, if a development is going to come in a year or two and

3053
04:11:22,630 --> 04:11:26,290
they're going to pay part of the street, then we don't want to go spend city money on doing that.

3054
04:11:26,730 --> 04:11:31,770
And then if a development does come in, pay part of the street, then we want to potentially finish parts of the street.

3055
04:11:31,770 --> 04:11:33,090
So we think about those things.

3056
04:11:33,530 --> 04:11:41,990
Utilities, in some cases, I know there is a particular street in another district that what are your

3057
04:11:42,910 --> 04:11:48,050
constituents and council member asked about and yet there is a utility job coming on that street.

3058
04:11:48,170 --> 04:11:50,750
So we don't want to pave that street and then have it cut up.

3059
04:11:51,430 --> 04:11:55,610
So we think about those things, whether it's Southern California Edison job and

3060
04:11:55,610 --> 04:12:00,150
they're doing underground work or are young utilities for water or sewer or storm drains.

3061
04:12:00,150 --> 04:12:18,290
We think about those things. Take them into account. Sometimes neighboring cities have requests. We'll have requests of them try to factor all of those things in addition to regional projects, funding types and other things to actually come to, you know, what's recommended as part of the CIP for the streets to actually get paid.

3062
04:12:18,290 --> 04:12:29,470
But if you do have a particular situation by all means reach out or I'll email you probably tomorrow and ask you what you have in my first good we'll see what we can do about.

3063
04:12:29,730 --> 04:12:30,550
Okay, thank you.

3064
04:12:30,670 --> 04:12:31,010
You're welcome.

3065
04:12:31,450 --> 04:12:32,010
Thank you.

3066
04:12:32,390 --> 04:12:39,410
I have a one comment in the question and this is a very superficial comment.

3067
04:12:41,590 --> 04:12:48,650
When you repay a street, I remember the day and sometimes I'll see it in some cities where the.

3068
04:12:48,650 --> 04:12:56,810
be paving that the street remains black for a longer period of time.

3069
04:12:58,190 --> 04:13:04,790
What I see now is after a month or two or three, it just looks like a faded street,

3070
04:13:05,030 --> 04:13:08,430
but it's a good street because it doesn't have potholes, it doesn't have cracks.

3071
04:13:10,120 --> 04:13:10,910
Why is that?

3072
04:13:10,910 --> 04:13:11,030
Yes.

3073
04:13:11,630 --> 04:13:20,110
Because I'll drive in some cities and it is black for months, if not maybe I can't verify

3074
04:13:20,110 --> 04:13:20,390
that.

3075
04:13:20,670 --> 04:13:21,390
That's not scientific.

3076
04:13:21,890 --> 04:13:23,210
But can you explain that?

3077
04:13:24,050 --> 04:13:24,970
Some what?

3078
04:13:25,110 --> 04:13:25,210
Yes.

3079
04:13:25,570 --> 04:13:32,350
So we will use different products for different treatments on different types of streets and

3080
04:13:33,270 --> 04:13:37,710
to sort of summarize a conclusion to your question.

3081
04:13:37,710 --> 04:13:41,550
And we'll use a product called asphalt rubber hot mix.

3082
04:13:42,010 --> 04:13:44,390
It has actually ground up tires.

3083
04:13:44,390 --> 04:13:47,670
We're actually recycling tires and using them in pavement.

3084
04:13:48,430 --> 04:13:51,170
The city has gotten additional grant monies

3085
04:13:51,170 --> 04:13:51,990
for that in the past.

3086
04:13:52,310 --> 04:13:55,370
And it is a more flexible pavement which helps

3087
04:13:55,370 --> 04:13:58,330
that last longer not crack as much other benefits.

3088
04:13:59,130 --> 04:14:01,490
That pavement, because it has a ground up tires

3089
04:14:01,490 --> 04:14:03,450
and it has a lot of carbon black in it,

3090
04:14:03,650 --> 04:14:06,050
it is more, it is blacker, like you're saying,

3091
04:14:06,050 --> 04:14:09,930
and it stays blacker longer because it has that component in it.

3092
04:14:10,110 --> 04:14:10,630
More expensive?

3093
04:14:11,410 --> 04:14:12,970
It is slightly more expensive.

3094
04:14:13,310 --> 04:14:13,330
Yes.

3095
04:14:13,510 --> 04:14:15,610
I'm just curious because that was it.

3096
04:14:15,890 --> 04:14:16,070
You're good.

3097
04:14:16,530 --> 04:14:16,610
Yeah.

3098
04:14:16,930 --> 04:14:17,790
And a conventional asphalt.

3099
04:14:18,030 --> 04:14:19,790
We'll start sliding up soon.

3100
04:14:19,890 --> 04:14:21,270
But I was just curious about that.

3101
04:14:21,530 --> 04:14:23,530
The second is it has to do with setting goals.

3102
04:14:24,090 --> 04:14:24,790
Setting a goal.

3103
04:14:26,270 --> 04:14:28,370
And maybe it's you mentioned that already.

3104
04:14:29,830 --> 04:14:33,010
Part of being able to set goals is that they're smart goals

3105
04:14:33,010 --> 04:14:33,790
and they're realistic.

3106
04:14:33,790 --> 04:14:41,910
right. I'd like to replace the entire street by 10 years. All our streets, to get from 55% to 85%.

3107
04:14:41,910 --> 04:14:50,510
But have we talked about perhaps working towards that of by a certain point, obviously we get grants.

3108
04:14:50,810 --> 04:14:55,550
I know that we have a huge project that will eventually become an arrow, which is an important development.

3109
04:14:55,790 --> 04:14:55,990
Yes.

3110
04:14:55,990 --> 04:14:59,930
I mean, the arrow is bad. I'm driven it numerous times and it'll be all

3111
04:15:04,100 --> 04:15:16,160
I know I've raised this and we'll continue to have this conversation, but it's only going to get more expensive. And so I just think we have to look at what might be some opportunities for us to be able to use.

3112
04:15:18,960 --> 04:15:31,260
How it is that finance it obviously do it within the rules and the law. The laws that exist regulations that exist is that to do as much as we can sooner rather than later because it is going to be a

3113
04:15:31,260 --> 04:15:38,900
it is going to cost us a lot more by waiting and so and certainly for the residents there's always

3114
04:15:38,900 --> 04:15:44,360
that frustration that comes when you know I've lived in this community for 50 years and my

3115
04:15:44,360 --> 04:15:49,520
street has never been repaid I don't know that people can exaggerate but it may be very well

3116
04:15:49,520 --> 04:15:51,440
very well be true.

3117
04:15:54,200 --> 04:15:58,780
I'd like for us to and if we have maybe we've done it maybe you have the goals

3118
04:15:58,780 --> 04:16:07,040
But if not, it's something to shoot for so that we can see how the progress is coming along and obviously this depending on our city's finances,

3119
04:16:07,480 --> 04:16:17,800
depending on grants, depending on a number of things, but if I could say we're at 55% today, but in a year from now we'll be at 56%.

3120
04:16:17,800 --> 04:16:26,520
That's progress, but if you're saying we're at 55% today and next year we're going to be at 47%, right?

3121
04:16:26,520 --> 04:16:37,720
Right, that's not on you, it's ultimately, we collectively have to figure out how do we get to a place where the majority of our streets are, what should we be trying to do, what's 75% and 80% what?

3122
04:16:38,140 --> 04:16:42,100
In PCI terms, if you're around 70, you're doing very well.

3123
04:16:42,160 --> 04:16:52,500
I mean, so, and we're at 55%, we're only 15 percentage points of improving our grade from an F to a C minus, really.

3124
04:16:52,500 --> 04:16:55,200
Thank you, thank you for indulging me.

3125
04:16:55,480 --> 04:16:58,580
I'll turn it over to the more sophisticated

3126
04:16:58,580 --> 04:17:01,860
cause of Paulton members of the council to ask the

3127
04:17:01,860 --> 04:17:03,040
hard questions.

3128
04:17:04,120 --> 04:17:06,040
Again, this is an informational item.

3129
04:17:06,640 --> 04:17:09,360
We don't need to take action on this, or do we?

3130
04:17:09,400 --> 04:17:10,240
No, that's received file.

3131
04:17:10,240 --> 04:17:11,040
I know it's hard to think.

3132
04:17:11,340 --> 04:17:12,360
It's an overnight file.

3133
04:17:13,060 --> 04:17:15,240
And so, don't need to take action, correct?

3134
04:17:15,320 --> 04:17:16,220
No, it's receiving file.

3135
04:17:16,320 --> 04:17:17,260
Receiving file, very good.

3136
04:17:17,420 --> 04:17:17,700
Thank you.

3137
04:17:17,960 --> 04:17:18,340
Thank you.

3138
04:17:18,640 --> 04:17:19,480
Appreciate it.

3139
04:17:19,500 --> 04:17:19,940
Great job.

3140
04:17:19,940 --> 04:17:25,620
Bob, Matt, one day there will be a statue of you in City Hall, man.

3141
04:17:26,300 --> 04:17:28,340
You're a true legend.

3142
04:17:31,360 --> 04:17:32,000
All

3143
04:17:34,820 --> 04:17:35,460
right,

3144
04:17:39,150 --> 04:17:39,930
item 72,

3145
04:17:45,310 --> 04:17:46,390
what is next?

3146
04:17:51,330 --> 04:17:56,950
Item number 19 is a public hearing to receive comments on the fiscal year 2526.

3147
04:17:57,390 --> 04:18:00,750
Consolidated annual performance and evaluation report at Caper.

3148
04:18:06,510 --> 04:18:11,010
Oh, can we take a discussion now?

3149
04:18:12,410 --> 04:18:14,010
Well, welcome, as always.

3150
04:18:14,190 --> 04:18:15,230
Thank you for bearing with us.

3151
04:18:15,550 --> 04:18:16,070
Thank you.

3152
04:18:16,310 --> 04:18:17,710
Good evening, Mayor Council.

3153
04:18:18,370 --> 04:18:22,150
My name is Maria Acunco with the Housing Services Division.

3154
04:18:22,970 --> 04:18:29,750
The item before you is a public hearing to receive comments on the consolidated annual performance

3155
04:18:29,750 --> 04:18:30,290
report.

3156
04:18:30,290 --> 04:18:41,190
It provides a summary of the federal expenditures for last year, as well as the corresponding activities and projects that were completed.

3157
04:18:41,730 --> 04:18:45,250
This report is required by HUD to be submitted annually.

3158
04:18:45,890 --> 04:18:47,590
That concludes my presentation.

3159
04:18:50,600 --> 04:18:53,300
Wow, so this is a public hearing, let me open the public hearing.

3160
04:18:53,500 --> 04:18:54,400
How many speakers do we have?

3161
04:18:54,720 --> 04:18:55,400
There are no speakers.

3162
04:18:55,460 --> 04:18:56,840
I will close this public hearing.

3163
04:18:57,160 --> 04:18:58,760
Are there any comments from council members?

3164
04:18:58,760 --> 04:19:02,560
I assume that there are no comments.

3165
04:19:02,700 --> 04:19:04,380
I'll be happy to entertain a motion, Nora.

3166
04:19:05,980 --> 04:19:07,200
Second, we've got a first, got a second.

3167
04:19:07,340 --> 04:19:08,480
This is just a quick roll call vote.

3168
04:19:09,100 --> 04:19:09,380
Martin?

3169
04:19:09,900 --> 04:19:10,160
Yes.

3170
04:19:10,380 --> 04:19:10,780
Cresciato?

3171
04:19:11,200 --> 04:19:11,640
Garcia?

3172
04:19:12,060 --> 04:19:12,260
Yes.

3173
04:19:12,520 --> 04:19:13,100
Oliver O's Cole?

3174
04:19:13,320 --> 04:19:13,500
Yes.

3175
04:19:13,780 --> 04:19:14,160
Lustro?

3176
04:19:14,260 --> 04:19:14,400
Yes.

3177
04:19:14,660 --> 04:19:15,100
Canalus?

3178
04:19:15,240 --> 04:19:15,360
Yes.

3179
04:19:15,580 --> 04:19:15,960
Standable.

3180
04:19:16,660 --> 04:19:17,100
Yes.

3181
04:19:17,280 --> 04:19:19,520
And that ought to be the gold standard, right there.

3182
04:19:19,840 --> 04:19:20,220
Okay.

3183
04:19:21,040 --> 04:19:22,100
All right, let's go ahead and do 20.

3184
04:19:22,420 --> 04:19:22,880
Is 20?

3185
04:19:23,340 --> 04:19:23,580
Yes.

3186
04:19:24,160 --> 04:19:24,600
Okay.

3187
04:19:24,600 --> 04:19:32,760
Okay item 20 is a public hearing to consider a city initiated project for 16, 16 pre that is a very thick binder

3188
04:19:34,820 --> 04:19:39,640
That's what the agenda was and that worries me now all right. Sorry Carla. That's okay

3189
04:19:40,500 --> 04:19:50,140
16 pre-fabricated modular units for the development of affordable permanent supportive housing with on-site and off-site improvements located at 2040 North Gary Avenue

3190
04:19:50,140 --> 04:19:58,880
So I had now our presentation, but since we're having technical difficulties now just give me a couple minutes I can explain the project.

3191
04:19:59,720 --> 04:20:18,660
So previously the council had approved accepting grant funding for this supportive housing units and then approved the contract to both buy the units which are prefabricated in a factory and then the construction contract to to install the units on site.

3192
04:20:18,660 --> 04:20:21,620
What you've never approved was the design and how it looked.

3193
04:20:22,520 --> 04:20:31,320
And so a new it asked staff to go back and go through the process like we would a normal project that we would see from a private developer.

3194
04:20:32,160 --> 04:20:41,880
Normally, the city projects are not subject to zoning regulations because we tend to do projects that don't really fit zoning like kids world.

3195
04:20:41,880 --> 04:20:45,940
or throwing a stable reconstruction on the water building,

3196
04:20:46,760 --> 04:20:49,440
building a reservoir storage tanks, things like that.

3197
04:20:50,100 --> 04:20:54,940
This is one of those because normally you wouldn't do these

3198
04:20:54,940 --> 04:20:58,960
modular units on a site because the way they're constructed,

3199
04:20:59,560 --> 04:21:05,360
they wouldn't meet our standards just because the foundations

3200
04:21:05,360 --> 04:21:06,180
and the way they work.

3201
04:21:07,180 --> 04:21:10,720
So this particular project, even though normally you don't

3202
04:21:10,720 --> 04:21:33,760
that require the zoning, we went through and tried to see and make sure that we had the lowest impact on the neighborhood as well as meaning all the zoning requirements and we basically did except for some landscaping you have the units are basically side by side behind the existing hub in the parking lot.

3203
04:21:33,760 --> 04:21:42,740
So the part of that park, the existing parking goes away, there's a deck in between to provide some common open space for these little one bedroom units and studio units.

3204
04:21:43,800 --> 04:21:52,040
We are then taking part of the existing water lot, they have a well behind the hub, we're using part of their lot to put parking back.

3205
04:21:52,680 --> 04:22:02,140
So there will be 31 parking spaces for 16 units, which is far above what a normal affordable housing project would have.

3206
04:22:03,360 --> 04:22:08,940
We're meeting, we're less than the height limit, we're meeting all our setbacks.

3207
04:22:08,940 --> 04:22:19,220
As I said, the one thing we're not meeting is landscaping and it's because we didn't count the entire well site, which is just landscaping for the whole site.

3208
04:22:20,380 --> 04:22:27,220
If this were a private developer project, general plan allows for 24 units on site.

3209
04:22:27,220 --> 04:22:32,020
We're only doing 16 with density bonus because this is 100% affordable.

3210
04:22:32,500 --> 04:22:38,940
You could actually do 43 projects, 43 units on this site and you could go four stories.

3211
04:22:39,200 --> 04:22:45,380
We're at one and the most you could require parking wise under state law is one space per unit.

3212
04:22:46,180 --> 04:22:50,980
So we are building this project at a very low impact to the neighborhood.

3213
04:22:51,700 --> 04:22:57,900
We did look at the CEQA and the environmental and staff's recommendation is that it's exempt.

3214
04:22:58,760 --> 04:23:05,200
And that is because we are under general plan density, air quality, noise, water quality,

3215
04:23:05,700 --> 04:23:08,280
and traffic have all been looked at as part of the general plan.

3216
04:23:08,760 --> 04:23:11,540
And general plan said you should put 24 units on this site.

3217
04:23:12,020 --> 04:23:14,980
So we are actually below impact on all those.

3218
04:23:14,980 --> 04:23:21,800
In addition, traffic, it doesn't even meet the minimum threshold to study under sequa with VMTs.

3219
04:23:22,600 --> 04:23:27,820
So just to sum up, we're recommending approval, we're below density, we're

3220
04:23:27,820 --> 04:23:32,900
below, we're trying to, we've tried to eliminate every potential impact to the neighborhood.

3221
04:23:33,540 --> 04:23:37,660
One other thing, the city has been working, all the departments together.

3222
04:23:38,120 --> 04:23:43,960
So housing, building and safety, planning, public works have all been working and

3223
04:23:43,960 --> 04:23:48,640
meeting every week on this project since about May, to make sure that we're meeting all the requirements.

3224
04:23:49,120 --> 04:23:56,840
We've also worked with the fire department to make sure that they are fine with the way they access this project.

3225
04:23:57,820 --> 04:24:02,200
It does still need to go through plan checks, so it will meet all the building code and fire code requirements.

3226
04:24:02,780 --> 04:24:10,620
We are also paving the alley that's to the north and making it striped red so it is very clear that you cannot park on that alley.

3227
04:24:11,380 --> 04:24:14,060
And that is something that the fire department has requested.

3228
04:24:14,600 --> 04:24:17,260
So with that, I'm here to answer any questions you might have.

3229
04:24:18,080 --> 04:24:20,000
Thank you, thank you for that.

3230
04:24:20,400 --> 04:24:25,180
This is a public hearing, so at this time I'd like to open the public hearing, and it looks like we have a speaker.

3231
04:24:25,660 --> 04:24:26,860
We have one speaker in there.

3232
04:24:27,580 --> 04:24:27,700
Okay.

3233
04:24:31,780 --> 04:24:33,060
Jason and I have a stand up.

3234
04:24:33,740 --> 04:24:33,920
Yeah.

3235
04:24:40,500 --> 04:24:41,140
Welcome, sir.

3236
04:24:41,680 --> 04:24:42,340
You have three minutes.

3237
04:24:43,060 --> 04:24:43,600
Thank you.

3238
04:24:48,520 --> 04:24:49,700
Okay, thank you.

3239
04:24:54,280 --> 04:24:55,660
Okay, thank you, I appreciate it.

3240
04:24:55,660 --> 04:25:02,880
So Mayor and fellow council members, thank you for letting me speak tonight.

3241
04:25:03,920 --> 04:25:09,420
I'm here in opposition to not adopt resolution 206103.

3242
04:25:10,500 --> 04:25:17,860
Myself along with 47 other residents that live in the area, opposes as well, I actually

3243
04:25:17,860 --> 04:25:24,400
live directly across the street on Ford from 2040 to North Gary Avenue, so I can literally

3244
04:25:24,400 --> 04:25:31,600
see it from my sidewalk. I reviewed the city staff report as well as the project plans and I found

3245
04:25:31,600 --> 04:25:37,000
several unresolved issues that I believe need to be addressed before the council can make the required

3246
04:25:37,000 --> 04:25:43,860
findings. First, the city is relying on the Class 32 SECA in fill exemption. That exemption requires

3247
04:25:43,860 --> 04:25:50,320
evidence concerning traffic, noise, air quality, water quality, and adequate public services. But the city's

3248
04:25:50,320 --> 04:25:56,080
public works documents say the traffic circulation still has to be demonstrated with turning templates.

3249
04:25:56,940 --> 04:26:03,240
And that a detailed 50 year hydrology and hydraulics study has yet to be completed or at least

3250
04:26:03,240 --> 04:26:07,480
made available in the project plans.

3251
04:26:08,260 --> 04:26:10,300
Second, the parking numbers don't make sense.

3252
04:26:10,860 --> 04:26:17,600
The city in the project plans proposes 30 parking spaces, which is contrary to what he just

3253
04:26:17,600 --> 04:26:29,020
stated. But the staff report says it anticipates up to two vehicles per units. 16 units times

3254
04:26:29,020 --> 04:26:39,060
two is 32, which doesn't account for onsite staff, which is going to be there. Visitors

3255
04:26:39,060 --> 04:26:47,540
is it existing family as stabilization hub is counted as well as emergency services.

3256
04:26:48,320 --> 04:26:55,500
That far exceeds 32 parking spaces. Third, the drainage plans need clarification.

3257
04:26:56,140 --> 04:27:02,060
The project plans say the final stormwater destination is an existing school grass area.

3258
04:27:02,300 --> 04:27:06,560
While the public works says runoff must be directed to the public storm drain system.

3259
04:27:06,560 --> 04:27:16,200
Fourth, the project includes a new alley intersection, a Gary Avenue and reconstruction

3260
04:27:16,200 --> 04:27:23,660
of approximately 450 feet of alley, yet I have not seen in a project specific traffic

3261
04:27:23,660 --> 04:27:25,440
analysis addressing those improvements.

3262
04:27:26,080 --> 04:27:30,760
Finally the staff report says normal zoning standards don't apply because this is a city

3263
04:27:30,760 --> 04:27:36,560
project and staff merely attempted to follow those standards where feasible.

3264
04:27:37,220 --> 04:27:41,380
I believe the council should have clear objective evidence regarding setbacks, parking lighting,

3265
04:27:41,680 --> 04:27:48,040
privacy, traffic, and neighborhood compatibility before approving a permanent residential development.

3266
04:27:48,520 --> 04:27:54,160
The city should resolve the specific technical and environmental questions before making a

3267
04:27:54,160 --> 04:27:57,620
final decision, or at least make it publicly available.

3268
04:28:00,420 --> 04:28:06,860
All right, that was the only speaker on this item and I'm going to close the public care. You can have a seat, sir.

3269
04:28:08,920 --> 04:28:12,920
You can give it over to our city clerk. Yeah, my apologies. Yeah, thank you.

3270
04:28:12,920 --> 04:28:18,060
We do have a couple of council members who wish to speak.

3271
04:28:18,160 --> 04:28:20,520
I'm going to start with Vice-Mirror Canales and then Council Member Martin.

3272
04:28:21,040 --> 04:28:24,180
So if you want to maybe come up, they may have questions for you.

3273
04:28:25,100 --> 04:28:25,800
Vice-Mirror Canales.

3274
04:28:26,560 --> 04:28:33,000
Yes, I know that it's a Justin to the San Jose school.

3275
04:28:33,740 --> 04:28:38,080
Have we taken that into consideration about it being so close to a school zone?

3276
04:28:38,080 --> 04:28:39,080
It

3277
04:28:44,840 --> 04:28:58,600
talked with the school district about putting a new wall and the block wall was agreed upon by the district, but we tried to put the parking that way so we would have a little impact to the school.

3278
04:28:59,140 --> 04:29:02,520
And so these units are in the middle between the existing hub and parking.

3279
04:29:02,520 --> 04:29:09,520
So the housing would not face the school district, and the school district would not.

3280
04:29:09,520 --> 04:29:17,660
It's about, it's probably about 150 feet away from the actual school district property.

3281
04:29:18,100 --> 04:29:19,700
Because you have the parking lot in between.

3282
04:29:20,100 --> 04:29:23,120
And the school district is aware of this project, and they've agreed to it.

3283
04:29:23,780 --> 04:29:25,380
We've received no comments from them.

3284
04:29:25,880 --> 04:29:26,060
Okay.

3285
04:29:28,700 --> 04:29:29,320
Councilor Morgan.

3286
04:29:33,290 --> 04:29:34,110
Yes, thank you.

3287
04:29:35,070 --> 04:29:57,550
going back to the school district, I spoke to a couple of school board members, and they were shocked that we approved that project without their knowledge, so I don't know who you spoke to from the school district, but the school board members did not know about it at the time.

3288
04:29:58,090 --> 04:29:59,590
We route it to their staff.

3289
04:30:00,050 --> 04:30:29,430
And so I don't know if they don't share that information that's, but we route it to them as staff, just like we would any other project. But we don't we don't control what staff tells school board. Right. Okay. So they're really worried about the children because it's the playground right there. Just like another project in the past is all about the children safety. Okay.

3290
04:30:29,430 --> 04:30:39,870
Okay, and then the second thing is I don't know when our guest speaker received a notice for the public caring.

3291
04:30:40,250 --> 04:30:51,990
But may I ask him when he, if he received the first one, but I mean the first time when we, when we voted on it.

3292
04:30:52,010 --> 04:30:53,150
What month was that May?

3293
04:30:53,150 --> 04:30:56,010
I think it was May or April, I don't know.

3294
04:30:56,010 --> 04:31:02,930
April or May, did you receive a public hearing because no?

3295
04:31:03,250 --> 04:31:04,370
And I live within the town.

3296
04:31:04,850 --> 04:31:07,250
Just a reminder, we should have that on microphone.

3297
04:31:07,590 --> 04:31:13,050
Right, just in the future, anybody who's speaking out here needs to get the mic.

3298
04:31:14,270 --> 04:31:17,110
But are you asking him questions?

3299
04:31:17,650 --> 04:31:20,350
Well, I'm going to go back to Jeff free.

3300
04:31:20,430 --> 04:31:21,390
I just wanted to.

3301
04:31:21,390 --> 04:31:23,310
some additional information we want to give you

3302
04:31:23,310 --> 04:31:25,110
with regarding the school district as well.

3303
04:31:26,030 --> 04:31:29,530
So there has been discussions and George can speak to it as well

3304
04:31:29,530 --> 04:31:32,110
is that there has been multiple discussions with POC.

3305
04:31:32,330 --> 04:31:34,330
There's gone back and forth about the wall

3306
04:31:34,330 --> 04:31:36,370
and having the fencing and the coverings.

3307
04:31:36,710 --> 04:31:38,110
So do you want to elaborate on those discussions?

3308
04:31:38,690 --> 04:31:38,910
Sure.

3309
04:31:39,590 --> 04:31:41,290
Good evening, Mayor and council members.

3310
04:31:41,790 --> 04:31:43,250
And council members.

3311
04:31:43,850 --> 04:31:46,110
Yes, I spoke with initially when we were looking

3312
04:31:46,110 --> 04:31:48,090
at developing the project on the side

3313
04:31:48,090 --> 04:31:49,050
when we looked at the site,

3314
04:31:49,050 --> 04:32:02,190
We initially had conversations with the neighbors, immediate neighbors, which did not include the gentleman that is here, but we wanted to get a feel and see how they felt about us putting the modulars in that area.

3315
04:32:02,750 --> 04:32:07,110
At the same time, we contacted the superintendent, which is Fernando Mazza at the time.

3316
04:32:07,610 --> 04:32:20,930
We discussed, you know, what our plans were, he was okay with it as long as we build a block wall to kind of screen the project from the kids. So they were in agreement of the project, at least the concept at that time.

3317
04:32:22,570 --> 04:32:34,070
So going back, I'm sorry, so going back to Jeffrey's comment about the wall. So is the wall not going to be there, or it's going to be there for sure it's going to be there.

3318
04:32:34,070 --> 04:32:38,550
Yes, it's in the plans that they will be constructing a brand new six foot high block wall.

3319
04:32:38,790 --> 04:32:41,690
Okay, thank you, thank you, that's very important.

3320
04:32:42,250 --> 04:32:44,990
Okay, one more comment.

3321
04:32:46,150 --> 04:32:51,510
So the business is that align right next to that property.

3322
04:32:51,830 --> 04:33:02,130
So Los Angeles that drive through restaurant, I spoke to that owner, business owner.

3323
04:33:02,130 --> 04:33:08,210
and she was shocked to hear that it's going to be there.

3324
04:33:08,470 --> 04:33:12,510
She says she has extraordinary amount of homeless issues

3325
04:33:13,290 --> 04:33:15,290
that continue to be epidemic.

3326
04:33:16,350 --> 04:33:21,550
There was a homeless woman that went up to the drive-through,

3327
04:33:21,890 --> 04:33:27,290
walked up, and then sort of speaking to the cashier.

3328
04:33:27,610 --> 04:33:31,070
And then the next thing you know, because of her mental illness,

3329
04:33:31,070 --> 04:33:37,630
She sprayed mace in the face of the cashier inside the restaurant.

3330
04:33:38,030 --> 04:33:45,710
It's just a countless encampments that are in the back that she's always calling all the time.

3331
04:33:46,350 --> 04:33:51,450
Then Gino that owns the office that's right next door.

3332
04:33:52,590 --> 04:33:57,530
Him and his wife came last time to speak on it and they oppose it too.

3333
04:33:57,530 --> 04:34:05,390
And so, you know, it's really, it terrors me apart because the people that live around

3334
04:34:05,390 --> 04:34:09,850
this project make it extraordinary impacted.

3335
04:34:11,050 --> 04:34:19,050
We, at the same time, are trying to make a solution for homeless individuals.

3336
04:34:19,050 --> 04:34:34,650
So, one big concern last time when we voted on it was the property manager needs to live on site 24-7 and at the time it wasn't.

3337
04:34:35,130 --> 04:34:39,090
So, is that now in the project 100 percent?

3338
04:34:39,830 --> 04:34:47,850
Yes. So, the housing deals with the property management company and there will be an onsite manager living on site.

3339
04:34:47,850 --> 04:34:49,050
That's in one of the units.

3340
04:34:50,050 --> 04:34:56,750
In addition, the entire site will be fenced or walled with gates for the parking.

3341
04:34:57,130 --> 04:35:00,430
There are also security cameras and lights that will be installed in the parking lot.

3342
04:35:00,910 --> 04:35:05,190
So they'll make it much safer in the alley and the parking lot that will be constructed.

3343
04:35:05,550 --> 04:35:10,670
And one more question, the security, I know we talked about security.

3344
04:35:11,530 --> 04:35:15,570
Can you remind me about the security of the place?

3345
04:35:15,570 --> 04:35:18,410
Is there any security? I don't remember.

3346
04:35:19,810 --> 04:35:27,250
As physical people, security or there will be security, there will be security cameras

3347
04:35:27,250 --> 04:35:32,610
installed. I'll let Bev talk about if there's people. That's something I don't know.

3348
04:35:32,790 --> 04:35:33,170
It's an operation.

3349
04:35:33,630 --> 04:35:38,150
Sure. Good evening, Mayor and Council. There will be security on site. There is existing

3350
04:35:38,150 --> 04:35:45,550
security on site because of the family stabilization hub. So staff is, the staff hours for the

3351
04:35:45,550 --> 04:35:51,530
The hub are 9 to 5 and then security is there up until the next morning, until they arrive.

3352
04:35:52,070 --> 04:35:58,150
When we develop the housing units, we'll have 24 hour security there on site.

3353
04:35:59,050 --> 04:36:09,730
So okay, so it's in the guaranteed contract that we'll have property manager and security 24-7s.

3354
04:36:09,730 --> 04:36:12,090
Now, the city is the developer.

3355
04:36:12,510 --> 04:36:15,530
We are the owner of the site and the developer.

3356
04:36:15,930 --> 04:36:18,750
So we want to ensure the success of this project.

3357
04:36:19,050 --> 04:36:25,130
As such, we plan to have operational procedures that include office hours for the property manager,

3358
04:36:25,630 --> 04:36:28,010
what to do for property management instances.

3359
04:36:28,410 --> 04:36:30,510
So we're in the process of developing that right now.

3360
04:36:31,410 --> 04:36:39,870
And last question, is it going to just be a lottery or will it be Pomona folks first?

3361
04:36:40,230 --> 04:36:42,390
Pomona folks, 100%.

3362
04:36:43,120 --> 04:36:44,730
That's in the contract with Tri-City.

3363
04:36:45,250 --> 04:36:47,610
And so we will match families for those units.

3364
04:36:48,390 --> 04:36:49,250
Okay, great.

3365
04:36:49,490 --> 04:36:49,890
Thank you.

3366
04:36:51,530 --> 04:36:52,210
Thank you.

3367
04:36:52,590 --> 04:36:53,430
Councilmember Lestro.

3368
04:36:54,250 --> 04:36:54,930
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

3369
04:36:58,220 --> 04:37:01,700
Jeff, you and Beverly, I think kind of answered the question that I was going to ask

3370
04:37:01,700 --> 04:37:10,520
and that was with respect to property management and kind of the I'll just characterize it as oversight

3371
04:37:10,520 --> 04:37:16,760
of the folks who will be living in the support of housing. And the reason I asked that,

3372
04:37:16,920 --> 04:37:23,700
the reason I asked that question is I had I had opportunity earlier today to to drive by hope for

3373
04:37:23,700 --> 04:37:31,860
home on Mission Boulevard and I was I was really disturbed to see outside of the

3374
04:37:31,860 --> 04:37:37,840
the parking lot on the west side of Hope for Home probably about 12 to 14

3375
04:37:37,840 --> 04:37:43,840
individuals just kind of camped out hanging out outside outside the wall out

3376
04:37:43,840 --> 04:37:47,480
there and then even as I drove a little bit farther probably about a hundred feet

3377
04:37:47,480 --> 04:37:52,660
east of the main entrance to Hope for Home and encampment out on the out on the

3378
04:37:52,660 --> 04:38:00,000
sidewalk. And so that really concerned me to see that. I have no idea whether the folks

3379
04:38:00,000 --> 04:38:07,660
that I saw outside were clients of the facility or not. I have no way of knowing that.

3380
04:38:10,760 --> 04:38:15,100
But when I saw that today, I started thinking a little bit about this project on tonight's

3381
04:38:15,100 --> 04:38:20,440
agenda and it's like, we don't want to see the same thing up on North Gary. This is going

3382
04:38:20,440 --> 04:38:25,420
going on out there so that was that was the question I was going to ask with respect

3383
04:38:25,420 --> 04:38:29,460
to management oversight of the of the project.

3384
04:38:30,720 --> 04:38:33,480
We agree and we wouldn't want that either.

3385
04:38:38,060 --> 04:38:39,600
All right council member on a vertical.

3386
04:38:41,300 --> 04:38:51,460
I have to really agree with council most because I did see the same thing and also across

3387
04:38:51,460 --> 04:38:58,760
the street. They're there. I mean, I couldn't believe how they, instead of going into hope for

3388
04:38:58,760 --> 04:39:07,260
home. I don't know if the beds are all taken or what, but it is a pretty bad site. So you're saying

3389
04:39:07,260 --> 04:39:13,360
it's just going to be for the Pomona homeless. How are you going to determine that? And how do you,

3390
04:39:13,600 --> 04:39:20,660
how do you find out that they are? Because there's so many coming from Los Angeles County. And I hate

3391
04:39:20,660 --> 04:39:28,700
to say this, but I think L.A. is cleaning up for the 2028 olympics and your question

3392
04:39:28,700 --> 04:39:38,060
on this way and not only that and not only that, you know, I've been hearing that they're

3393
04:39:38,060 --> 04:39:42,180
coming from that direction on the gold line.

3394
04:39:42,540 --> 04:39:44,180
This project is a little different.

3395
04:39:44,880 --> 04:39:48,000
This project, the majority of the funding came from Tri-City.

3396
04:39:48,000 --> 04:39:52,500
and so these are for their clients, Pomona clients,

3397
04:39:52,920 --> 04:39:56,280
and we work with Tri-City to match small families

3398
04:39:56,280 --> 04:39:57,580
for these small units.

3399
04:39:58,260 --> 04:40:00,960
Okay, I'm on the board as well as Canela's.

3400
04:40:00,980 --> 04:40:01,080
Yes.

3401
04:40:01,580 --> 04:40:05,040
Okay, but we really don't hear anything about,

3402
04:40:05,880 --> 04:40:08,980
I mean, we know that their homeless people,

3403
04:40:09,120 --> 04:40:13,540
Tri-City is working with some individuals,

3404
04:40:14,020 --> 04:40:16,780
but we just want to make sure that we do get these people

3405
04:40:16,780 --> 04:40:26,680
that Tri-City has been working with because, you know, I want them to have first hand in things.

3406
04:40:27,180 --> 04:40:32,720
And like I stated, we want this project to be a success. We're working closely with Tri-City.

3407
04:40:33,000 --> 04:40:39,440
We're invested in the families that will be there. And we intend to provide oversight, collaboration,

3408
04:40:40,020 --> 04:40:42,280
with property management, and all of that.

3409
04:40:42,520 --> 04:40:45,600
So you're saying families, so these little homes?

3410
04:40:45,600 --> 04:40:50,200
They're small. They can occupy no more than three to four individuals.

3411
04:40:50,900 --> 04:40:52,540
Really? And how many square footage?

3412
04:40:53,260 --> 04:40:54,740
George, you have that information.

3413
04:40:58,840 --> 04:41:01,220
Ideally, one to two, no more than three.

3414
04:41:04,050 --> 04:41:09,630
So they vary in size. Some of them can vary from between 300 to 400 square feet,

3415
04:41:10,030 --> 04:41:12,850
which will allow for a family.

3416
04:41:13,690 --> 04:41:18,210
There's a bedroom, and then there's the living room, which we consider living room to be a sleeping room,

3417
04:41:18,210 --> 04:41:23,590
so they can put a bed in there to accommodate the four and it won't constitute overcrowding.

3418
04:41:23,750 --> 04:41:24,530
Is there a kitchen?

3419
04:41:25,050 --> 04:41:26,810
Yes, they're all self-sustained.

3420
04:41:26,930 --> 04:41:27,430
In a restroom?

3421
04:41:27,890 --> 04:41:28,290
Yes, correct.

3422
04:41:28,430 --> 04:41:33,970
So basically it is a small little home with all of the amenities, okay?

3423
04:41:34,090 --> 04:41:34,470
That is correct.

3424
04:41:34,630 --> 04:41:37,870
And so one of the things I wanted to clarify is that this is permanent supportive housing.

3425
04:41:38,270 --> 04:41:38,310
Right.

3426
04:41:38,410 --> 04:41:41,230
It's not interim whereas the shelter is interim.

3427
04:41:41,750 --> 04:41:42,770
People go in and out of there.

3428
04:41:42,910 --> 04:41:45,210
So these will be families that will be placed there permanently.

3429
04:41:45,210 --> 04:42:00,410
I just wanted to add on to that. I think one of the key differences for home where we do recognize that is an issue and it's mainly individuals that don't want to follow the rules of the shelter. So they set up camp and that's an issue that we're addressing.

3430
04:42:01,310 --> 04:42:27,010
Yeah, but I would say that we operate other facilities, the sanctuary, where there are permanent units, you don't have the loitering and the sleeping encampments at those facilities where they're permanent, where there's not any really, you have to have been in a program, you have to have a housing unit there as opposed to the shelter where the transient a bit of a nature and so we ended up with those other issues.

3431
04:42:27,010 --> 04:42:34,830
Yeah, because when I ask a homeless person if I feel like they really should go

3432
04:42:34,830 --> 04:42:42,570
I see why don't you go to the home and I hope for home in fact I even had the police take a couple of ladies

3433
04:42:43,570 --> 04:42:52,690
Because they had no way of getting there so but right away the next day I saw that one one particular person and I'm like

3434
04:42:52,690 --> 04:42:58,130
What are you doing here and she says they didn't have any room for me so

3435
04:43:00,210 --> 04:43:05,570
That's in this location wouldn't be somewhere where there's someone's being taken for in-term housing

3436
04:43:05,570 --> 04:43:08,790
Okay, so it's going to be definitely a tri-stitied case

3437
04:43:09,910 --> 04:43:10,450
Correct

3438
04:43:15,760 --> 04:43:20,860
I'm just going to go continue with the speakers and you have your name up so okay

3439
04:43:23,260 --> 04:43:23,800
Council's

3440
04:43:23,800 --> 04:43:27,540
Here's Council Member Garcia, you have not spoken.

3441
04:43:28,000 --> 04:43:28,360
Is that correct?

3442
04:43:28,920 --> 04:43:29,040
Okay.

3443
04:43:30,340 --> 04:43:33,020
Council Member Cannellas and Martin, you've spoken already.

3444
04:43:33,480 --> 04:43:36,460
I will take you after Council Member Garcia,

3445
04:43:36,620 --> 04:43:38,360
because she has not spoken nor have I spoken.

3446
04:43:38,660 --> 04:43:41,580
And then I'll be happy to hear from you both, okay?

3447
04:43:42,180 --> 04:43:44,320
Just so we make sure we give everybody a chance

3448
04:43:44,320 --> 04:43:45,980
to speak on this matter.

3449
04:43:46,500 --> 04:43:48,940
So I'll go with you, Council Member Garcia.

3450
04:43:49,500 --> 04:43:50,360
Thank you, Mayor.

3451
04:43:51,500 --> 04:43:53,400
I always find these items interesting,

3452
04:43:53,400 --> 04:44:02,880
because in 2016, it feels like Council at the time did not bat a nilash at putting a over 200 bed homeless shelter in my district.

3453
04:44:03,700 --> 04:44:09,360
And I clearly remember a former Council member making the joke that District 3 took a bullet for the city.

3454
04:44:10,020 --> 04:44:11,260
So we took one for the team.

3455
04:44:11,760 --> 04:44:20,500
So I would respectfully ask other districts that when you get permanent, supportive family housing that is fully vetted and funded, secured.

3456
04:44:20,500 --> 04:44:49,640
and with property management and parking and design consideration all which were attempted for hope for home and obviously it's not a perfect system but it is a system and we're trying to work with it that we please accept it graciously because this city definitely needs help this weekend I was approached by three individuals two elderly and one single mother who need help with housing.

3457
04:44:50,380 --> 04:44:59,900
we need help with housing in the city and if we're going to say no to the RSO or put limits on it like we did we

3458
04:45:00,000 --> 04:45:28,460
Should not be putting limits on supportive family housing. That is my piece. It is 1212. I have to go teach 480, 14 year olds at 830 tomorrow morning. So I would like to make the motion knowing that there are two people who are going to speak that we go ahead and approve this project. Thank you. Yeah, I just did. I'm going to speak and then I'm sure you have short comments. Yeah, just.

3459
04:45:28,460 --> 04:45:38,120
I, on the one hand, I could certainly appreciate anybody's concerns who live in and around the area, but

3460
04:45:40,360 --> 04:45:41,540
there's some irony in this.

3461
04:45:42,840 --> 04:45:52,600
There's a school right next door, and yet there are homeless families who need housing.

3462
04:45:53,540 --> 04:45:56,720
It's a contradiction, right?

3463
04:45:56,720 --> 04:46:05,740
You cannot have, you cannot have, or solve homelessness in the absence of building housing.

3464
04:46:06,680 --> 04:46:12,060
And this is a creative way of doing that, with an attempt to mitigate these issues that

3465
04:46:12,060 --> 04:46:12,600
could arise.

3466
04:46:13,660 --> 04:46:17,520
You cannot compare hope for home to what this project is.

3467
04:46:17,640 --> 04:46:18,620
There are two different projects.

3468
04:46:20,950 --> 04:46:25,490
Two different really clientele, as you're talking about, individual homelessness with varying

3469
04:46:25,490 --> 04:46:35,190
various challenges versus small families because there's a child, right? And if a child has

3470
04:46:35,190 --> 04:46:43,470
a place to go to, and you know, three to four to five minutes worth, he does not a lot. I feel

3471
04:46:43,470 --> 04:46:47,890
very privileged that my son has the opportunity to be in a large home, but not everybody has that

3472
04:46:47,890 --> 04:46:57,270
privilege. And so if we say no to projects like this, then we, then, then, then, how are

3473
04:46:57,270 --> 04:47:02,910
you going to solve homelessness? It's a good project. It's something that we need

3474
04:47:02,910 --> 04:47:07,410
to monitor and certainly they should be a part of the community, the neighborhood that

3475
04:47:07,410 --> 04:47:14,150
you all live in. I think sometimes when we think about these projects, the, oh, and I've

3476
04:47:14,150 --> 04:47:18,830
heard this before. And I, not saying you said all that, this is other comments that have

3477
04:47:18,830 --> 04:47:26,890
been made, they're almost like their criminals. And yet, these are just people who perhaps

3478
04:47:26,890 --> 04:47:33,790
can't afford it, fallen on hard times. We have an office there that's already there to

3479
04:47:33,790 --> 04:47:39,330
help families and to help children. And here we are building 16 units. We're not talking

3480
04:47:39,330 --> 04:47:42,910
about 166 units. We're not talking about 1666.

3481
04:47:45,270 --> 04:47:47,330
We're not going to get to solving this problem

3482
04:47:47,330 --> 04:47:51,990
if we're not willing to do these types of projects that are in this case all

3483
04:47:51,990 --> 04:47:58,470
Pomona residents and supported by the services that are needed to make sure

3484
04:47:58,470 --> 04:48:03,470
that it's a it's a good project now if it fails we have to acknowledge that but

3485
04:48:03,470 --> 04:48:08,450
it shouldn't fail it really shouldn't and we have other examples that the city

3486
04:48:08,450 --> 04:48:18,030
manager. So I just there needs to be context here about that we're not going to solve homelessness

3487
04:48:18,030 --> 04:48:21,850
if we're not committed. And I think we've been committed to affordable housing projects,

3488
04:48:22,470 --> 04:48:28,110
inclusionary housing ordinance. It reflects the values of this community. And for us to,

3489
04:48:29,350 --> 04:48:33,330
we should push and we should have security. I get all that. But remember these are these are

3490
04:48:33,330 --> 04:48:35,010
These are families, these are human beings.

3491
04:48:35,830 --> 04:48:39,990
Let's not assume the worst, right, at all.

3492
04:48:41,370 --> 04:48:44,430
Because there are people who live in very wealthy communities

3493
04:48:44,430 --> 04:48:49,610
who commit certain types of acts

3494
04:48:49,610 --> 04:48:51,910
that are different than any other social class.

3495
04:48:52,110 --> 04:48:52,830
So I just wanna say that.

3496
04:48:53,350 --> 04:48:57,550
Okay, council member, cannellas, and Martin, okay.

3497
04:48:58,630 --> 04:49:01,990
And as a member of the Charity Board,

3498
04:49:01,990 --> 04:49:11,750
I understand that there is going to be a criteria and that this criteria, if they violate the criteria, there's going to be consequences, correct?

3499
04:49:14,230 --> 04:49:17,230
So it's permanent support of a thousand, they will all have a lease.

3500
04:49:17,730 --> 04:49:21,210
And if someone violates the lease, we have the right to evict them.

3501
04:49:21,470 --> 04:49:31,350
Right. And that's what I'm saying is that, you know, we are, there are guidelines and there are families that are going to be going in here that really need the support of

3502
04:49:32,430 --> 04:49:35,490
housing for them and their children.

3503
04:49:35,990 --> 04:49:36,890
That's correct, correct?

3504
04:49:37,050 --> 04:49:37,150
Yes.

3505
04:49:37,490 --> 04:49:38,930
And that's what I wanted to say is that,

3506
04:49:39,270 --> 04:49:40,830
and that they do violate,

3507
04:49:41,110 --> 04:49:43,830
there is going to be consequences to the violations.

3508
04:49:43,830 --> 04:49:44,030
Absolutely.

3509
04:49:44,970 --> 04:49:46,690
So I don't think it's going to cause

3510
04:49:48,570 --> 04:49:50,930
Lordeering of inappropriate people

3511
04:49:50,930 --> 04:49:53,910
because I think it is a place for families

3512
04:49:55,170 --> 04:49:58,990
that it's going to be accommodating

3513
04:49:58,990 --> 04:50:02,150
to what's needed in our community, right?

3514
04:50:02,470 --> 04:50:05,270
And we're trying to anticipate potential problems,

3515
04:50:05,270 --> 04:50:08,230
but as problems arise, we will address them.

3516
04:50:08,710 --> 04:50:12,350
And those families will be on a wraparound service as well.

3517
04:50:12,730 --> 04:50:15,590
Yes, supportive services from the hub are available,

3518
04:50:15,970 --> 04:50:20,850
case management, housing, navigation, career,

3519
04:50:22,530 --> 04:50:23,810
growth, financial literacy.

3520
04:50:24,290 --> 04:50:25,590
All of those are currently available

3521
04:50:25,590 --> 04:50:27,130
at the Family Stabilization Hub.

3522
04:50:27,130 --> 04:50:34,830
Yes. I just wanted to reiterate what we have talked about and just real quick. There should

3523
04:50:34,830 --> 04:50:42,350
also be an opportunity to move on up. Yes. Right. I mean, this is stabilizes the family

3524
04:50:42,350 --> 04:50:46,610
with all the support that's needed in the moving to a bigger apartment. Yes. Or perhaps

3525
04:50:46,610 --> 04:50:48,110
the home. So Councilmember Merton.

3526
04:50:50,840 --> 04:50:54,620
Thank you. I'll just be brief. So the consequences

3527
04:50:54,620 --> 04:51:03,400
is that Council Member Canalis brought up, so it's written out with the rental agreement,

3528
04:51:03,780 --> 04:51:09,900
all the rules, and if you violate it, you will be evicted, or is that how it's going to?

3529
04:51:10,560 --> 04:51:16,740
That's correct. It'll be a typical lease if you violate the lease, then we have the right to

3530
04:51:16,740 --> 04:51:42,480
Okay. Secondly, the last meeting I asked someone in the staff, I don't need to call out that person, but I said, is it going to be discriminatory then that if men want to rent one of those places they're automatically going to be eliminated from the application process?

3531
04:51:42,480 --> 04:51:48,100
or it will be, I just, because we keep talking about families.

3532
04:51:48,400 --> 04:51:58,380
So we're talking about, so wonder if it's just a single individual man that wants to apply for one of the smaller units.

3533
04:51:58,920 --> 04:52:05,080
So a family constitutes having a child, so our plan is to match families to those units.

3534
04:52:05,540 --> 04:52:10,760
We don't intend to discriminate, again we plan to work closely with Tri-City to match for

3535
04:52:10,760 --> 04:52:16,140
With that site, understanding that these are vulnerable populations taken into consideration

3536
04:52:16,140 --> 04:52:22,120
neighborhood concerns, so we plan to think diligently about who is placed at this particular

3537
04:52:22,120 --> 04:52:24,300
site without being discriminatory.

3538
04:52:25,200 --> 04:52:27,800
So, except there'll be a child at each?

3539
04:52:28,180 --> 04:52:28,900
Absolutely.

3540
04:52:30,020 --> 04:52:32,320
There must be a child with whoever is.

3541
04:52:32,320 --> 04:52:43,680
And when we're questioned, can it be a shared unit within two family units, meaning two moms and one child each?

3542
04:52:44,120 --> 04:52:47,640
Is that something to be considered or not?

3543
04:52:47,920 --> 04:52:51,280
Well, a family gets to designate the makeup of their family.

3544
04:52:51,940 --> 04:52:57,980
If there's two female, they get to decide what their family is composed of.

3545
04:52:57,980 --> 04:53:01,980
That's a good, that's a good answer, like the answer.

3546
04:53:03,000 --> 04:53:05,600
All right, that's and I'm just going to close on this.

3547
04:53:07,480 --> 04:53:13,960
Defending to pay for the security and for the manager on site.

3548
04:53:14,320 --> 04:53:21,780
My question is, is that, is that dependent on grant funding or is it out of the general fund?

3549
04:53:21,780 --> 04:53:27,040
And no, so we will project base this particular project.

3550
04:53:27,320 --> 04:53:33,660
That means the clients will pay no more than 30%, and HUD will pay the other 70%.

3551
04:53:33,930 --> 04:53:40,460
As the owner, those revenues allow us to take care of operating costs.

3552
04:53:40,920 --> 04:53:45,420
Security, property maintenance, and so that's the plan for generating revenue.

3553
04:53:46,140 --> 04:53:48,760
Okay, thank you, all right.

3554
04:53:48,760 --> 04:53:48,820
Okay.

3555
04:53:50,100 --> 04:53:51,060
All right.

3556
04:53:51,120 --> 04:53:51,920
We have a motion.

3557
04:53:53,140 --> 04:53:56,080
Councilmember Garcia, and I'm happy to accept a second.

3558
04:53:56,540 --> 04:53:57,100
I'll second it.

3559
04:53:57,700 --> 04:53:57,880
Okay.

3560
04:53:58,340 --> 04:53:58,480
All right.

3561
04:53:58,560 --> 04:53:59,800
Let's go and do a roll call on.

3562
04:54:01,140 --> 04:54:01,620
Martin.

3563
04:54:02,380 --> 04:54:02,660
Yes.

3564
04:54:03,080 --> 04:54:03,560
Perciado.

3565
04:54:03,860 --> 04:54:04,100
Yes.

3566
04:54:04,400 --> 04:54:04,860
Perciad.

3567
04:54:04,980 --> 04:54:05,220
Yes.

3568
04:54:05,660 --> 04:54:06,280
On a various call.

3569
04:54:06,540 --> 04:54:06,720
Yes.

3570
04:54:07,040 --> 04:54:07,400
Lestro.

3571
04:54:07,460 --> 04:54:07,620
Yes.

3572
04:54:07,840 --> 04:54:08,160
Canales.

3573
04:54:08,520 --> 04:54:08,680
Yes.

3574
04:54:08,880 --> 04:54:09,000
Yes.

3575
04:54:09,000 --> 04:54:09,220
San Diego.

3576
04:54:09,420 --> 04:54:09,680
Yes.

3577
04:54:10,080 --> 04:54:10,320
All right.

3578
04:54:10,620 --> 04:54:11,000
You.

3579
04:54:11,280 --> 04:54:11,600
Thank you.

3580
04:54:11,600 --> 04:54:14,280
So that is the final item.

3581
04:54:15,280 --> 04:54:19,680
So at this time I'm going to go ahead and adjourn this meeting to the next meeting which will be next Monday.

3582
04:54:21,240 --> 04:54:22,960
Everyone have a good night out. Get some rest.