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is it going to cost you? If you've
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resolution, you realize those are pretty
technical documents and they always are.

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Um, but with utility revenue bonds,
they're even more technical and and big

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picture and I don't want to get into too
much detail.

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you're pledging only electric utility
system revenues towards the payment of

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these bonds. And so bond holders
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» uh in this case the bond insurer now uh
they care greatly about how you operate

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your utility. Um so you have some
financial covenants that you would not

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have if it was a general obligation bond
where you just promise to raise taxes

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and do whatever you have to do to pay
them. So, a lot of what's in the

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documents relates to that. The ordinance
is pretty short. It's the formal

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document that authorizes the issuance of
the bond, but we leave a lot of the

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detail to the resolution. Uh, and but I
did think I would hit high points and uh

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things you haven't been subject to on
your electric utility operation for a

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few years, you'll now be subject to. Uh,
rate covenants as an example. You are

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promising
these bond holders that you will set

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your rates in a manner uh two different
tests here that when you factor in your

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fund balances
carrying over plus whatever you generate

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that year, you're going to cover your
debt service 1.35 times. So

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uh the way this works is you have
revenue and the first thing you promise

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to pay are your operation maintenance
expenses but then after that you're

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telling bond holders you have first
claim on this revenue after we've taken

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care of our expenses. So if you think in
terms of fund balances and let's say you

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start the year with a million dollar
then you generate $3 million and you pay

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your O and M expenses whatever is left
has to cover your debt service 1.25

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times. If you don't take into account
your fund balances

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then it's 1.0
time one time. Um, and you're probably

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going to carry some fund balances. And
that's the reason we we drafted this in

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this way that [snorts] a lot of times
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coverage just period. Meaning every year
you're generating a 25% excess.

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And that that's maybe a healthy way to
operate, but if you start the year with

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a healthy fund balance, you don't want
to be forced to raise rates just because

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in that particular year you were going
to generate 1.2 two times instead of

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1.25 times. So again, you're going to
need to comply with those things. Those

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are pretty standard, but I think because
of the fund balances, you'll have maybe

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a little more flexibility
um than you otherwise would. So if, as I

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say, if you're in a place where you
don't have a great year, if you have

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fund balances that you can count towards
that calculation, you're not going to be

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forced to raise rates at a time when you
don't want to raise rates just because

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you have one off year. just as
>> and just because it's been a hot month

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and tempers are high and people have
even come into the office today and been

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really unkind to our front upfront staff
about their [snorts] electric bills. We

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haven't raised the electric rates in two
years. So there was no raising of rates

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this month. It just is a really hot
month. It's I mean I don't Jimmy

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» No, that's it. So it's all weather
related. Yeah. And of course, yeah. So,

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» so anyway, I just went since we're
talking about rates and and and we're

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issuing bonds. We're issuing bonds
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um without raising electric rates. And
the reason that we are able to pay for

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the the bonds, we were able to make the
principal payments and the debt service

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payments is because we had a a
>> a purchase power agreement which was not

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advantageous. Um and it was 25 years
long. It was a GRDA that expired this

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year. [clears throat] And so we're
taking the money that we are saving from

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not having that disadvantageous
purchase power agreement and we're

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applying it to the new generators. And
the new generators are desperately

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needed because they are replacing the
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antiquated steam unit.
>> Right.

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» Sorry.
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This is different than, hey, we have to
go spend a large amount of money and

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it's going to lead to something that's
not status quo. We do have to raise

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rates because everything's going to be
more expensive. This is kind of a status

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quo situation. We lost a power source.
We're adding a power source through

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this. And the goal is to keep those
rates the same. He, you know, I can't

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promise you you're not going to have to
raise rates at some point, but as Gina

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said, this isn't going to be that reason
in two or three years. I mean, operation

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and maintenance will go up and all of
those things. So, as you go along,

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you'll have to meet these covenants. You
just have your audit report. If you

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didn't meet one of those covenants, your
auditor will will catch that and report

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it. um not a lot of teeth to to failing
to meet the coverage requirement at the

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outset. It'll get noted in your audit
and you have to get a consultance report

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and make a determination about do we
need to do something different. Um but

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it's not as if failing to meet the
coverage test is going to immediately

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throw you into a bond default. It just
leads to uh we need to consider maybe

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raising rates at that point. And it has
nothing to do with the bonds per se.

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It's just overall revenue generation
relative to your entire system.

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» While we're talking about coverage, um
the other place this sort of test shows

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up is if you want to issue additional
debt against your electric utility

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system revenue stream in the future,
there are similar tests. So, think about

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bond holders right now purchasing these
bonds. They're the only bonds payable

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from your electric utility system
revenues. they're first in line. If five

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years from now, you need to issue bonds
again, that's different than things were

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when they invested in these bonds. And
so, they need some protection and they

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push for that protection. And so, we
have those tests. And again, it's you

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need to be meeting those coverage tests
that I just mentioned both on your

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existing bonds, these bonds, plus any
additional debt that you would issue in

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the future. And that way you leave bond
holders in the same place they would

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have been otherwise. So again, you'll
have the flexibility to issue bonds in

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the future, but you'll have to meet some
financial covenants.

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Uh again, if you look through this, we
create some funds and accounts. Project

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fund, that's where most of the bond
proceeds will go, out of which you'll

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pay for all of the project costs.
There's a debt service account. There's

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a reserve account that instead of
depositing cash in it, which would I

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don't want to say typical, but maybe
more frequently, you just put a sum of

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cash in there, it just sits as a reserve
for a rainy day. If you have a bad year,

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you hit that reserve. Um, Steel
investigated, determined that it would

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be cheaper to buy a shity bond. Um so
like bond insurance you have this is

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something similar but it's in the
reserve. So that would get hit first.

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You would draw on a shy bond if you had
a shortfall in your debt service and you

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needed to hit the bond reserve. Um so
just another layer and instead of

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[clears throat] depositing I mean in
this case it would probably be something

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close to $2 million as a reserve. uh
it's going to cost you in the tens of

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thousands in premium and you don't have
and that money just sits there. You

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can't put it to use. Hopefully
investment rates are such that you can

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earn a nice return on it. But pretty
efficient way right now to handle that.

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Um so again another really technical
thing and the the bond insurer who's

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providing both of those also really
cares about all the these financial

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covenants. So they'll want to get your
audit report. They're going to monitor

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those things. Bond holders are always
going to get paid now either by you or

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the bond insurer. And if it's the bond
insurer, then uh the term is subregated.

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You then owe them money. They become the
bond holder because they've paid your

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bond holder. So that's that's how that
works. That will never happen. You've

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got a healthy utility system. The
coverage is fantastic. And so um so

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that's all all good news. And
the only other thing uh I always like to

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touch on is federal tax implications. As
long as you use these facilities for

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your governmental purposes, that results
in tax exempt bonds. That's why you can

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get the good interest rate. If anything
ever changed, if you entered into a

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contract in the future where you were
going to sell all of the output from

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these six generators to some new
business that's coming to the data

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center, I'm kidding. It's just an
example. [laughter]

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I know uh for attempted to but I've been
a big user.

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» You don't know our social media pages.
>> Well, I [laughter]

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see you and every other city in the
country right now. Uh but again, a big

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user that said we will pay you a premium
if we can just take all of the output

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from those six generators and leave them
on all of the time. then that becomes

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something that looks less governmental
and more private and we'd want to talk

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about that and see if it changes the tax
exempt status of your bond. But other

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than that, on a going forward basis, you
don't have to worry about much. Just

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make sure you don't have those output
contracts. Make sure you're meeting your

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financial covenants with which your
finance officer, your auditor will help

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with that. And again, it's been a long
time since you had any debt on this

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utility system and it's pretty healthy
and this all looks affordable. And so I

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will stop there. Uh again, I if you
browse through these documents, it's

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it's pretty technical stuff and I
understand that. But uh but again, it's

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a more complicated issue than bond
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So Jamie, I'm just going to want to make
sure you're comfortable. We're going to

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save money by getting out of a GRDA
contract and that'll be enough money to

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pretty much offset this bond payment and
we won't raise rates.

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» Absolutely.
>> That's what I thought.

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» Yeah. Actually, last week u I know
everybody in town complained about the

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bill.
>> Well, we also get a bill that we

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purchased off of the grid. And when it
came in last week, I about flipped out

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because I had never seen it that high.
So instantly I was on the phone with

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tear and blah blah blah. And they said,
"Hey, listen. If you had your GRD over

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right now, you'd be paying twice that
much." So I said, "Oh." They said, "You

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guys are buying a lot of power, but
you're also selling a lot of power right

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now." So it goes hand in hand. Um Evan
was actually today was going to send

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them some information from our past year
with GRDA and Tier was going to kind of

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lay it out for me so they could see,
hey, here here's where your savings is

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this last year since since we dropped it
in April. So it really hadn't even been

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a full year ahead. So
>> I think what I'm seeing between the

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lines is we're we're in a good position
>> absolutely to do this at this time. So

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when GRDA was uh brought on board 25
years ago at that time the city thought

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that was the best thing for for us. Um
they expected uh electric races to

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skyrocket more than they had and
actually it went the other direction. So

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that was why getting out from 100 was a
blessing. So we can do these

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improvements with the savings separate.
Revenues will still go on the same

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direction. We just um we're not spending
as much. That makes sense.

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» And remember also that the steam unit
requires a much larger workforce than

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the cat generators do. So already Jamie
has uh reduced the number of employees

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at the power plant by five in the last
couple of years.

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» Yeah, we five down.
last per year

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» and the intention going forward is
through attrition not through layoffs or

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anything but through attrition um
reducing that further by two more. So

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the
there's enough and the technical

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um knowledge to run the steam unit is
much higher and the people who know how

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to run that Brian Evans is one of them.
He's here. He's one of the few and far

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between that that really still know how
to run it and Brian doesn't work in

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power anymore. So um so anyway the the
knowledge is going away. Um, and the

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work will be reduced. [clears throat]
>> And that also, if I'm correct, Jamie,

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won't that help us now once we get the
cats in, we won't have a person at the

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power plant at night or do we?
>> We're working on that, too. We got a lot

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of things going on and hopefully our
automation will be done, I hope, this

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fall in the next several months, but
when that does happen, we'll only have a

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crew during the day, so we won't have a
night shift, which is a whole other

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thing.
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah. Well, the behind the scenes work
by Stiffel is unbelievable. If you try

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to read all this, so thank you [snorts]
for doing all that.

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» And Gilmore Bill
>> and Gilmore Bill I don't want to take

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credit.
the the long documents if you don't uh

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don't like reading those long documents.
So I think uh yeah and and again just to

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add to the discussion it this is the
third I think in the last year um

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generation project I've worked on with
Kansas cities and I think a lot of you

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probably entered into the power purchase
contracts at about the same time and are

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realizing coming out of that period of
time maybe we can do this more

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efficiently on our own and so
[clears throat] we'll add some

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generation. It had been a long time
since I'd worked on a bond issue to add

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electric generation and now it's like
three in one year. So, uh that should

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give some credence to yes, we're we are
swapping out and and kind of keeping up

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with the times and more efficiencies and
paying for things that way.

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» Okay.
Any other questions for Kevin? Okay. All

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right. Um, with that being said, I guess
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» uh you'll do a vote, a roll call vote
for each one, correct? The ordinance and

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the resolution.
>> Ordinance definitely. Uh

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» resolution.
>> I mean, you get in on the resolution as

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well. I'm not going to
>> Might as well.

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» Okay. Well, let's just um I'll make a
motion, of course. Um I'd like to make a

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motion that we approve of the utility
bond ordinance 2611.

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uh provide for the issuance of principal
amount electric utility system revenue

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bond series 2026 of the city of Pra
Kansas making certain covenants and

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agreements provide for the payment and
security thereof and the authorizing

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certain other documents and actions in
connection therewith

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it's been moved and seconded that we
approve of the utility bond ordinance

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2611
uh any other discussions okay

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» roll call
>> roll call do I do it or you

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» you do Okay. Commissioner Oeller,
>> yes.

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» Commissioner Myers,
>> yes.

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» Commissioner Seammens,
>> yes.

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» Commissioner Blankship,
>> yes.

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» And I'm a yes. Five to zero.
Okay. I'll then uh make the motion that

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we approve of resolution 081726-
C, a resolution prescribing the form and

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details of the authorizing and directing
the sale and delivery of the electric

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utility system revenue bond series 2026
to the city of PR, Kansas. previously

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authorized by ordinance number 2611 of
the issuer making certain covenants and

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agreements to provide for the payment
security thereof and authorizing certain

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other documents and actions connected
therewith.

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» Second been moved and seconded that we
approve resolution 081726c

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as presented. Uh, Commissioner uh,
Postetler.

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» Yes. [snorts]
>> Commissioner Myers,

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» yes.
>> Commissioner Stevens,

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» yes.
>> Commissioner Blank, yes.

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» And I'm a yes. 5 Z.
>> Okay.

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» Perfect.
>> Thank you.

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» Thank you. Thank you.
>> All righty. Now moving on to 6.4,

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consideration of resolution 081726-
October Fest at Lemon Park. Mr. Dakota

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Green.
>> Good afternoon. um here to formally

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request um permission from the city to
host our 2026 event um September 26 from

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5 to 10:00 p.m. in Lemon Park. Uh and
[snorts] also uh we we did provide a

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resolution uh seeking permission to be
able to um have alcohol at that event

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this year. Very grateful. Uh we started
this event in 2016. We had to take a

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break uh co year. So this will be our
ninth year. Um our average attendance uh

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has has typically been on a on a good
weather year been north of 400 um of

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individuals that that many from outside
of our community that attend. Um

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conservative estimate every year we have
about 30 to 35 business sponsors uh that

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help make this event possible. We're
incredibly grateful to the business

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community in Pratt um and and all of our
sponsors. Um but o over the years uh at

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the end of every year uh we make
donations back to lots of organizations

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in Pratt. So um in in the past nine
years conservatively we've given back

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about 90,000 back to the Pratt
community. Most of that has gone to

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Pratt Rotary Club which we have a
matching grant program. Um so we give uh

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45,000 to Rotary every year. They match
it dollar for dollar and the Rotary Club

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has a grant program um that's been used
on things like some of the in

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partnership with other organizations
like some of the playground equipment

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and things you'll see in the in the
parks. Um we we donate to the prep food

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bank hope center. Um you know uh we
every year we're grateful to London

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Park. So we we call it the London Park
tree planting initiative. We try to buy

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two or three trees a year. Um and many
many other organizations. Um, so this is

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a community uh event. It is an adult 21
and o 21 and older. So it's an adult

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only event. Um, but it really the
concept is um just to get out, be

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neighborly, meet and talk with people in
our community and build relationships

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and um if you have any questions, I'd be
grateful to try to answer those.

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» You know, Dakota, you know, I think you
guys do a great job every single year. I

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think it's great that it's in Lemons
Park, especially with all the trees and

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the shade, you know. So, but um I always
think you guys do a great job with it

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every single year.
>> Thank you.

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» It's a good event.
>> What was the date on that?

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» September 26th.
>> Okay. And what time do you want the park

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closed?

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» 4 means the vents from 5 to 10 p.m. So,
maybe 4:30. Okay. Be great. Um I will

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note one other thing that's unique to
this year. So um um kind of the theme of

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Pratt Sports Tourism um we are now the
Proud Otoberfest is an official US

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Steinholding Association state
tournament. So if you win that

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tournament um you get to you get to go
on to the state finals and then

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eventually to the the national
championship in Cleveland, Ohio. So, uh,

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last year we did have a couple people
from Texas and other areas that actually

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drove here to specifically participate
in that event.

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» Cool.
>> Everybody's radar.

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» Yeah. Uh, so, Dakota, what time do you
guys plan on setting up again? Around

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noon or earlier?
>> We always set up [laughter] the day

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before.
>> Okay. So, we'll set up on Friday um

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evening uh into Saturday morning and
then tear down. The PCC wrestling team

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helps us with set up and tear down.
We'll tear down and have it all cleaned

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up um by early afternoon on Sunday.
>> Perfect. Okay. Uh Regina, any any

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concerns with the resolution at all?
>> Okay. And then Chief, any concerns at

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all?
>> Okay. All right.

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Make a motion.
>> I I'll move that we uh approve the

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resolution 081726
for October Fest

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on September 26.
Second.

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» It's been moved and seconded that we
approve resolution 081726-

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for October Fest at Lemon Park for
Saturday, September the 26th of 2026.

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Any other discussions? All those in
favor, please say I. I. All right.

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» Thank you.
>> Thanks, Dakota.

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» Thank you, Dakota. All right. Moving on
to now 6.5, consideration of resolution

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081726-B
allowing alcohol at the municipal

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building for a private event. Miss Sarah
Scaggs, I would like the clerk to note

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that I will be abstaining from this vote
due to my personal relationship with

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Miss Scaggs.

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Hello, I'm Sarah Skaggs and uh I am
getting married on October 10th and my

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reception is at the municipal building
and I would like to serve alcohol there.

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I'll sell it. Um we hired a company
called the bars open out of Witchah to

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serve the alcohol and also ID people. Um
they have a liquor license and also a

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liability insurance. Um,

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and I also plan to have an offduty
police officer there attending as well.

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So, I would like your permission to have
alcohol at my wedding. So, if I could

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just
remind the commission that we've

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discussed the municipal building before,
um that because of how permanent it is,

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it's not a street or a park, you
actually don't have to approve every

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single event that has alcohol at the
municipal building. However, in the

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past, you've said that se and the
commission make up changes, but at the

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time the commission said that they still
wanted the ability to vote on every

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event that has alcohol at the municipal
building. So, I think that tonight you

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may have more than one resolution before
you. Uh so, just just so that you keep

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that in mind. At any point you can say
when it comes to the municipal building,

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we have already exempted that from the
state law that that prohibits alcohol

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being used on government property. If if
you ever come to a point where you just

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want staff to make that determination,
you know, you can let us know that. But

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in the meantime, because we are doing
what you've asked us to do, um Sarah's

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here to to bring that request to you.
>> Chief Fry, do you have any concerns at

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all?
No, I don't know. Have you contacted our

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department on the offduty officer yet or
are you using somebody else?

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» Off duty officer is um Austin Sats who's
actually my cousin.

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» Okay.
>> Um who I hope has taken off work to be

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there. [laughter]

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» I hope so, too.
>> I'll find somebody else.

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» Justin, any concerns?
>> Uh I don't have any concerns as long as

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they're all tied up on the legal end
with the the city side. I'm good with

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it.
>> No problems.

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» Also, just putting it out there, we have
had some events at some other city

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facilities um that
have not been accepted the community

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center. Uh we've had some events there
and people brought alcohol and left a

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huge mess. And so we may discuss um
a deposit when we do alcohol related

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events. Um that's just something that
that Jess and I have not got together

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and talked about yet.
>> And this is all inside the building.

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» Yes. All inside. It's outside. It's not
something I know about.

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[clears throat]
>> Yeah. Okay. laugh.

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I'll make a motion that we approve
uh resolution 081726B

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allowing alcohol at the municipal
building for a private event. Second,

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» it's been moved and seconded that we
approve resolution 081726-B

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allowing alcohol at the municipal
building for a private event. Any other

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discussions? All those in favor, please
say I.

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» I.
>> And I abstain.

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Okay. passes four to zero.
>> Thank you.

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» You're welcome. Who's, by the way, who's
marrying you all?

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» Wyatt Cole,
[laughter]

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» who's who's the honor of marrying you
and Wyatt?

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» My brother-in-law, Kyle Farmer.
>> Oh, boy. [laughter]

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» I know, right?
>> I just wanted the record to

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» No, I'm ordained.
Yeah, they couldn't find anyone else.

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So, they
>> Jamie Huber's available.

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» All right. Now, moving on to 6.6,
consideration of ordinance allowing

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alcohol at third street from the
municipal, Mr. Greg Hansen.

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» Good evening. Thanks for for hearing us.
I'm Greg Hansom here on behalf of the

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the board of the Pratt Public School
Foundation and we're asking for an

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exemption to allow for consumption of
alcohol in front of the municipal

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building. Basically, um as written in
the uh the draft here, we've said uh

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between Jackson Street and Main Street
just to keep things simple. Uh the Pratt

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Public School Foundation uh we exist to
support educators and students in USD

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382. We do that by awarding uh small
grants to to teachers for things

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educational purposes that are kind of
outside what the district might provide.

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And so the bike race, the the open range
travel race is one of our primary ways

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to raise money. We support that race at
the end of April and then uh in turn we

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get a nice donation back from them. So
we're part of of the race. We're we're

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trying to to do some enhancements to it
as well to make it more of a community

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event. So, we've got the uh we've
invited the Yum 56 ice cream truck in uh

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for next year. We've got a a barbecue
food truck there. Uh the organizer has a

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van as well. And so, we just think it
would be nice. We're there all day

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supporting the race anyway. We thought,
well, why not try to sell some beer and

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and make some money from the
participants as they come back in from

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the race. So, uh, knowing that the
inside of the municipal building, um, is

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already exempt, uh, but the race happens
outside, the finish line is right there,

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the band is outside, the food truck is
outside, it would be nice if we could,

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uh, make some money from the
participants and any towns people to

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come and then they could go outside with
their adult beverage and and watch the

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actual finish of the race. So, that's
kind of it in a nutshell. uh and then we

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we'd uh drill down to the details when
we come back to the resolution uh before

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the race happens in the fall. So, this
is just kind of the the first step to

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see if it's possible that that we could
allow that to happen outside. I think it

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would also benefit uh just going forward
um any other u groups or have something

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going on. Um that's a good section of
the street that if somebody else wanted

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to do something then this would be in
good shape for them. Okay. So, looking

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at the map here, Greg, it's going to
kind of be where I'm assuming BTI is at

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in the nail salon. Or am I looking at
>> that's the wrong

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» Oh, I'm looking at Okay, I'm looking at
the other one.

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» No, we're looking just Third Street.
Okay, there there is the limitation for

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the setback from Liberty Middle School
was

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» 200.
>> Yeah. Um, so by saying the east side of

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Jackson, that gets us far enough away
from the school that that that's not an

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issue. And of course when we do the
resolution and actually quartering off

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[clears throat] where it's going to be,
we'd make sure that that we're the

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proper distance away.
>> Okay.

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» So where um like the wedding, they'll
have the alcohol concession in the

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municipal building. How are you going to
keep it within the the designed area?

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» Yeah. How?
>> Yeah. And and that's I think uh when we

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get to the resolution part of it, um we
we nail that down a little bit better.

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But I would envision, you know,
barricades or or a tape taped off area,

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something like that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
We definitely want to make sure that

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we've got it got it enclosed. We monitor
for that.

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» Are volunteers going to monitor making
sure people don't leave that barrier?

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» Yeah. Yeah. And we do, you know,
wristbands to to verify the the age.

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» Okay.
>> So, and we're just trying to, you know,

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kind of grow the event, make it a little
bit more of a communitywide thing, maybe

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get more people downtown to enjoy it.
Um, we've got, you know, over 300 people

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sign up for it every year. So, that's a
lot of outtowners coming in. If we can

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entice them to to stick around town a
little bit more, maybe have dinner or

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spend the night, then it's a good thing.
So, it would benefit us. We'd raise a

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little bit of money off of it and
[clears throat] town, too.

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So, this is the exact same the ordinance
that I put at each of your desks and

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there's extra copies for any audience
members that want um any the

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all I did was I added um
obviously in the heading that we were

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exempting West Third Street between the
east boundary of South Jackson Street

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and west boundary of South Main Street.
And then at that last whereas before the

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actual ordinance um language and then in
the ordinance language

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paragraph 4 we just separated we had the
east fourth street which was already

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exempted as subsection A and then we
added subsection B which is west third

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street. And now east, did you say east
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» East fourth street between the east
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west boundary of South Dennis Gust
Street. We did that for the Pratt Jim

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several years ago.
>> That's was about to ask.

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» Uh Chief Wright, concerns or opinion?
>> No, just it was brought up about the

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containment of it.
>> Okay. Do you feel comfortable with the

409
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:43,119
containment? And yeah,
>> they'll also have to provide boundaries

410
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:49,520
and a map to um get a liquor license
anyway if they're doing sales. So, the

411
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:54,040
state of Kansas will um audit that.
>> Okay.

412
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,040
» Prior to issuing a license.

413
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:04,359
» Any
other questions?

414
00:50:01,359 --> 00:50:04,359
Okay.

415
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:14,400
I'll I'll make a motion to approve the
consideration of ordinance 2612

416
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:19,280
allowing alcohol at third street in
front of the municipal building.

417
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:23,040
It's been moved and second that we
approve ordinance 2612 allowing alcohol

418
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,960
at third street in front of the
municipal building. Any other

419
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:31,920
discussions? All those in favor, please
say I. I.

420
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:34,240
» Okay. Masses. All right. Thank you very
much. Thank you.

421
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:39,200
» I got to tell you that's quite the
description on where this all is going

422
00:50:37,839 --> 00:50:43,119
to be.
>> Well, that that so I think you're

423
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:50,480
looking at the the legal description of
Lemon Park. That's all [laughter]

424
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:55,559
complex. So yeah, the Green Complex is
complicated. Lemon Park is even more

425
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:55,559
voluminous,

426
00:50:57,359 --> 00:51:04,480
» but this is old.
All right, we're going to move to 6.7

427
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:09,760
now. Consideration of road closure Jack
Street between fourth and fifth and

428
00:51:06,319 --> 00:51:15,960
resolutions uh 081726-D
for the Philly Fest on Thursday,

429
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,960
September the 3rd. Miss Hans

430
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:26,480
alcohol related family here
talk a little bit about the Philly Fest.

431
00:51:24,319 --> 00:51:32,160
the Philly Fest. We're in our third year
and it is simply I guess an awareness

432
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:37,839
raiser and a friend raiser and hopefully
a community gatherer event for the

433
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:43,680
Philly Fest, the Phil Vernon Philly Art
Museum. We do not charge entry. It is

434
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:48,880
open to everyone. Um this year we are
having a secured little area where we

435
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:55,839
have food vendors. will have two food
vendors, a beverage cart, and um an area

436
00:51:52,720 --> 00:52:01,920
that's quadranted off to say 21 and
older in here. No alcohol beyond this

437
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:08,160
point. That is for the food service
around lunchtime. The Philly Festival

438
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:14,559
will actually start at 5:00 p.m. It will
host a music truck,

439
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:19,280
five community interest booths, and 17
individual artists that are displaying

440
00:52:16,319 --> 00:52:23,680
their wares. There's no charge for any
of the people to come and set up at the

441
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:29,599
festival. We do not make any money off
of this. It is strictly a a familiarity

442
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:34,640
and a community raiser. We would like to
have permission, however, if you would

443
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:40,960
take it under consideration for whenever
the actual event happens. We will close

444
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:44,240
off the road between Fourth and Fifth
Street. This year, we've pulled it back.

445
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:47,920
In the past, we've had it going into
Merchants Park and there was a lot of

446
00:52:46,319 --> 00:52:51,119
back and forth. There's a lot of school
traffic that needs to come through

447
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:56,160
there. So, this year, our committee
decided that we would only close off the

448
00:52:54,160 --> 00:53:00,640
um portion of the street on Jackson
between fourth and fifth. The library

449
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:06,079
has graciously considered to work with
us. They're going to allow the tornado

450
00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:10,160
sun or tornado snow uh mobile to come
there. We have a cotton candy vendor and

451
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:15,760
we will have face painting in that area.
We've talked to Dylan Omar who owns the

452
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:21,359
uh car repair shop. They're open until 6
now. And so we worked with him to

453
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:26,240
develop a map for egress of all of the
vehicles that are in there for service.

454
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:31,760
But at 5:00 p.m. there would be a um
southwest truck pulled across uh Jackson

455
00:53:29,839 --> 00:53:36,079
Street at the fifth street entrance so
that that will provide secure entry

456
00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:42,800
there. We would like permission to
barricade off the alleyways on each end.

457
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:46,319
Although our event doesn't go into that
alleyway yet because it is kind of a

458
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:50,880
smaller event. We would like to close
those off to vehicular traffic and allow

459
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:56,800
only emergency traffic. We've also
talked with CL Meg's company, BTI, all

460
00:53:54,240 --> 00:54:02,000
of the surrounding businesses and close
off the entry at Main Street into the

461
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:05,599
parking area that's behind uh in that
block. That way it creates kind of a

462
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:10,960
secure environment for people walking
around. We do have a designated kids

463
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:15,359
zone and you know lots of vendors. We'd
like to make it just as secure as we

464
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:20,319
could for people walking around. We have
an emergency plan and the library has

465
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:24,960
graciously offered that if we have any
bad weather or we have to, you know,

466
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:30,559
move inside for any reason, the library
will host it. We have two entry points

467
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:35,040
on Jackson Street, one at the library
and one at the Philly Museum where

468
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:40,319
people have to come and come into the
area. So, what I'm here tonight asking

469
00:54:37,839 --> 00:54:46,319
is if we can close that off and have
permission to do so and the use of

470
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:51,520
barricades. Um, also if we could, we
would like to have consideration that if

471
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:56,079
this area is closed and is secured, if
we could have permission to take adult

472
00:54:53,680 --> 00:55:02,240
beverages and walk around in the vendor
area. And that goes back to the

473
00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:09,520
resolution that we just did.
>> Well, the the problem, Cara, is that we

474
00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:14,800
we don't have South Jackson Street as an
exempt an exemption on the ordinance.

475
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:19,680
So, do do you know what I mean? So, so
we have certain areas that are exempted.

476
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:24,160
So, is the ask that we amend the
ordinance to include those streets?

477
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:29,839
» I did not know that. I just did a
resolution to see if we could walk

478
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:34,559
around in the area. Um, but we also have
a backup plan for keeping it secure

479
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:39,359
knowing that, you know, this might
require something else. I know the

480
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:43,440
vendor would apply for a Kansas uh
permit, which would include Yeah. doing

481
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,440
the map of everything else and we do
have the maps available.

482
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:54,400
» Sure. So the alcohol on public property
has two steps. Um the ordinance tells

483
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:57,839
you tells uh people and organizations
where there's been an exemption from

484
00:55:56,319 --> 00:56:01,599
state law. So where you can have the
alcohol, which is why Greg and John are

485
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:07,040
working to get that section of Third
Street exempted. And then the resolution

486
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:12,880
is for the specific event that will have
the alcohol. Um,

487
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:16,079
and this is our last meeting before
>> Yeah, we won't have another one till

488
00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:20,720
after Labor Day.
>> Okay.

489
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:25,839
» So, I don't know what to do because
Jackson Street I I don't have an opinion

490
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:30,000
on whether or not we should exempt I
mean I always want to support the

491
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:33,440
Philly. Um, it's just not running into
the ordinance right now.

492
00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:39,119
So you're talking about pulling a big
truck there and Jack sitting for how

493
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:42,240
will emergency vehicles get in and out
>> um for the actual street?

494
00:56:41,359 --> 00:56:47,520
» Yeah.
>> We would have to come in from the from

495
00:56:44,319 --> 00:56:51,920
the north for that or one of the other
areas that we would have barricaded off

496
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:55,839
but could still have vehicular traffic.
We just felt like that would secure that

497
00:56:53,839 --> 00:57:01,200
end a little bit better where the food
trucks are. We could leave it open and

498
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:07,040
just have barricades as well.
So, Gina, with the ordinance, do we have

499
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:10,880
to go back and make a motion to amend it
to add uh Jackson Street or whatever we

500
00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:15,119
need to add?
>> And you would need to give me the exact

501
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:20,480
language that you want.
>> We can't do like a specific event one

502
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,880
time or I'm assuming if it's
>> you want to do it again and again. So

503
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:26,960
yeah,
>> if it's just on the private property and

504
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:31,359
barricaded there with the alcohol, does
that

505
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:35,520
» allow for the resolution and not an
ordinance?

506
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:41,599
» If it's on the private property,
>> it's uh muffler shop has graciously

507
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:44,760
donated that for the entire day, the
whole space.

508
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,760
» It's not allowed on public sidewalks.

509
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:57,040
would actually be on the sidewalk. It
would be inside of the area.

510
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,079
» Okay.
>> But but the alcohol's on private

511
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,880
property.
>> But the alcohol is on private property.

512
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,520
And I think that's fine.
>> Okay.

513
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:09,440
» It's public. The the prohibition is
public streets, alleyways, parks,

514
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,119
sidewalks,
>> but private property.

515
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:17,400
» Where's the private property?
>> The maps that are in your packet.

516
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,280
Oh,
>> so when looking at it, so you said it's

517
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:26,000
going to be on the feet.
>> It's going to be on the muffler

518
00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:29,760
» property or
>> they can't use it

519
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:31,839
» south of the 200. They have to go all
the way

520
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:35,280
» bever.
>> Okay.

521
00:58:34,115 --> 00:58:39,040
[clears throat]
>> N.

522
00:58:36,319 --> 00:58:43,920
» So the so the tipsy turtle is the out.
>> Yes. Nick and Tiffany Parker here.

523
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:49,440
» Okay.
The municipal building is outside of

524
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:52,160
that 200 feet. So I this facility should
be outside of that 200 feet from the

525
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:56,160
school,
>> but the pedigo building is sits closer

526
00:58:54,000 --> 00:59:01,760
than Liberty does and that's part of the
USD.

527
00:58:57,839 --> 00:59:11,680
We pulled a tape and just unofficially
not officially but um it was 250 ft to

528
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:14,640
uh the sidewalk in front of Nicholas
Beverlin.

529
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,839
» Mhm.
>> Stolen

530
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:20,960
» all and all the way to Pedigo or
>> from Pedigo.

531
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:25,520
» Okay.
>> But they can't basically the front yard

532
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:27,520
of the Philly. That's too close.
>> But they're talking about the monthly

533
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,960
shop. Okay.
>> So, the muffler shop is

534
00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:34,880
» it's the green area, correct?
>> Right.

535
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:38,799
» That's the muffler.
>> No, the muffler shop script says

536
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,200
» tornadoes.
>> Tornadoes.

537
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:46,640
» So, ours isn't colorcoded or
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Well, the tornado snow is

538
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:50,960
over by the library, but the muffler
shop is on the other end of the map and

539
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:54,160
it sets back in.
>> Yeah, I got it.

540
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:58,720
That That's actually where they got the
tornado.

541
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:03,359
» That That's what's throwing me off is so
the tornado suns is near the muffler and

542
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:08,319
the tipsy turtles in the alleyway behind
like BTI and all that.

543
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:11,599
» I apologize. You have a different map.
We can find it in that area knowing that

544
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:16,160
this might be
>> Okay. So, tornado and suns is like near

545
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:19,200
the library, right? It'll be in front of
>> Okay. But the tipsy turtle will be right

546
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:24,799
there on private property in the
>> Yes. And then the two trucks. So all of

547
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:30,319
the uh services will um open into the
area that is enclosed by the trailers

548
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:34,400
and the muffler shop. So there won't be
anybody coming up on the outside. They

549
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:38,240
will have to come into an area to get
food and beverages.

550
01:00:36,319 --> 01:00:39,760
» The alley would be public property
though.

551
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:46,359
» And the alley is
>> that's a city rideway.

552
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,359
» So yeah.

553
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:55,040
» Thank you.
Our

554
01:00:52,319 --> 01:01:06,520
printer will get worried.
>> Um, okay. So, this is Jackson Street and

555
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,520
it would be more

556
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:13,680
» It's on page 153.
>> But it sounds like the map might be

557
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:18,160
outdated.
>> Yeah, ours is out of date.

558
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:21,599
You just can't have it.
>> There's There's two maps. There's

559
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:27,799
another map on 154, but it looks the
same to me

560
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,799
» as far as the boundaries.

561
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:45,839
» I didn't realize that you were a part of
the family.

562
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:51,982
» We
just tal.

563
01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:51,982
Yeah, we can [laughter]

564
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:11,559
» Okay,

565
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:23,079
No, that makes more sense.

566
01:02:27,298 --> 01:02:29,318
[cough]

567
01:02:31,228 --> 01:02:33,248
» [clears throat]

568
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,680
» because

569
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:57,559
» just not
all of our

570
01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:57,559
people.

571
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:02,400
Yeah,
>> we'll come back.

572
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:09,720
» Okay.
>> Okay. Um, so Gina, what would be the

573
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,720
best or

574
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:13,920
» what do we do?
>> Yeah. What do we do here?

575
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,480
» Good question.
>> Well, so we just need to close the

576
01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:20,240
street.
>> The alcohol is going to be confined to

577
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:22,400
private property. So the alcohol is not
an issue this year,

578
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:27,440
» right? Right.
>> So, you are going to have to take out

579
01:03:24,799 --> 01:03:29,839
that second to last paragraph on that
resolution.

580
01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:31,599
» Okay.
>> Which one?

581
01:03:30,799 --> 01:03:37,359
» Which one?
>> Oh, on the prep page of the resolution.

582
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:41,039
» So, resolution. So, it's it's be it
further resolved, the Philly Museum will

583
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:45,520
be allowed to offer for the sale and
consumption of alcoholic liquor at the

584
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:51,039
Philly Fest 2026 on Thursday, September
3rd, 2026 between the hours of 5 and 7

585
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:56,000
p.m. because you're not given permission
for that. It's not on a public property.

586
01:03:54,000 --> 01:04:00,640
You're just agreeing to close the
streets.

587
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:05,680
» So, so do we need to delete the whereas
up above it talking about

588
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:11,440
» There it is. Okay.
Okay. So, take out B for the result.

589
01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:13,920
» What about the where up there?
>> I see that.

590
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:18,520
» Whereas,
>> the last whereas

591
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,520
» Well, there's four,

592
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:27,599
» third and fourth both discuss alcohol
consumption

593
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:31,319
on public property.
>> Third and fourth.

594
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:40,200
Got to make sure we do this by the book.
>> I appreciate that.

595
01:04:53,364 --> 01:04:55,384
[cough]

596
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:03,520
» I think Jean, are we ready for a motion?
>> Yeah. So you're just uh just be clear

597
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:09,599
that
you modified the resolution you know to

598
01:05:05,839 --> 01:05:14,480
to delete the third and fourth whereas
to delete

599
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:17,359
» be the first before be in further
resolve

600
01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:20,720
» correct
>> and the title

601
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:23,920
» and the title
>> you know what I'll tell you what you

602
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:29,119
really need to do I would do a
resolution I would just make a motion to

603
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:33,839
close the street for the best on the day
time

604
01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:36,720
» and not worry about a resolution.
>> You You always close the street like

605
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,720
that.
>> Lawyers,

606
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:44,640
» Sean.
>> Yes. Okay.

607
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:51,520
» All right. We'll make this easier.
I would make a motion that we approve

608
01:05:47,119 --> 01:06:00,160
closing Jackson Street between
>> fourth and 5th on September 3rd for the

609
01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:04,400
Philly uh activity.
It's been moved and seconded that we

610
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:10,480
approve the closure of Jackson Street
between 4th and Fit for uh September the

611
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:16,079
3rd of 2026 for the Philly Festival. Any
other discussions? It's 5 to 7:30 p.m.

612
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:18,960
» from 5 to 7:30 p.m. Thank you. Any other
discussions? All those in favor, please

613
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,240
say I.
>> I.

614
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,100
» Thank you.
>> Yep. There you go. Yeah.

615
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:25,120
» We'll have somebody new come next year.
[laughter]

616
01:06:25,359 --> 01:06:35,039
» Okay. Uh moving on, we are going to kind
put in our addition now 6.8 discussion

617
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:38,559
of our golf ordinance. Uh Mr. Terry
Williams.

618
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:42,720
And by the way, congratulations Terry on
your victory from the primary. Thank

619
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:46,000
you.
>> Thank you, mayor and commissioners for

620
01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:52,799
allowing me to speak today. I want to
here to talk about the golf carts here

621
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:56,480
in the city limits of Pratt. Um I'm here
to ask the city commission reconsider

622
01:06:54,559 --> 01:07:01,200
the city's restriction on operating
properly equipped golf carts after

623
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:04,960
sunset and before sunrise. I want to
make one thing very clear that I'm not

624
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:09,920
asking the city to eliminate any safety
regulations. I'm only asking the city to

625
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:14,480
use reasonable safety regulations
instead of absolute prohibit

626
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:19,920
prohibitation. Kansas law already
addresses this issue under KSA8-15108.

627
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:25,520
Golf carts may be operated within city
streets when authorized by the city and

628
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:30,400
Kansas statute specifically provides for
operations between sunset and sunrise

629
01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:34,640
when the golf carts are equipped with
required lighting and properly mounted

630
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:39,280
slowly moving vehicle implements. So the
state has already recognized this as um

631
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:42,559
properly equipped um golf cart. It can
be operated safely at night. The

632
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:48,400
question before the commission is
whether Pratt wants to uh allow the uh

633
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:54,960
operation for reasonable um local
regulations. My golf cart is registered.

634
01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:58,880
It is um insured equipped with
headlights, tail lights, turn signals,

635
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:03,359
mirrors, horns, and other safety
equipment including seat belts and that

636
01:08:00,799 --> 01:08:08,240
sort of thing. Um, I'm not asking to
drive an unregulated vehicle around town

637
01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:12,079
in the dark. I'm asking to operate a
vehicle that's already been properly

638
01:08:10,079 --> 01:08:17,440
equipped and registered under the rules
established by the city. Um, I also

639
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:21,040
believe that we need to look at um this
issue consistently. We have electric

640
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:25,120
bikes running around town, electric
scooters operating throughout the

641
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:30,319
community, including after dark without
headlights, without registration,

642
01:08:26,799 --> 01:08:34,400
without all of that safety stuff. Um,
many of these vehicles are subject to

643
01:08:32,799 --> 01:08:38,239
the same registration and inspection
requirements that the golf carts are.

644
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:42,560
I'm not saying we should prohibit these
vehicles. I'm saying that the safety

645
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:46,799
should be the standard. We should apply
these safety standards consistently. If

646
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:50,239
the city's concern is visibility,
require headlights, tail lights, brake

647
01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:56,880
lights, those sort of things that we
already do. Um, and then going further

648
01:08:55,120 --> 01:09:01,759
here,
um, [clears throat] I I do understand

649
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:07,279
the the chief of police, um, his
concerns. I I know he's does not agree

650
01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:12,719
with any of this stuff. I do respect
that and the chief's job is to identify

651
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:16,880
potential safety problems and and I I
don't take these concerns lightly. Um,

652
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:20,400
but I do believe the commission's job is
to balance these concerns with the

653
01:09:18,799 --> 01:09:25,600
rights of the needs of the citizens of
Pratt. This blanket prohibit

654
01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:29,920
prohibitation is the easiest rule to
enforce, but it doesn't necessarily make

655
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:33,920
it the best rule. I would ask the
commission to consider the pilot program

656
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:38,799
to amend the ordinance allowing properly
registrated insured golf carts to

657
01:09:36,159 --> 01:09:45,359
operate after sunset and before sunrise
when that they meet specific equipment

658
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:51,199
and safety requirements. Um, if the city
wants to have additional regards, um,

659
01:09:48,799 --> 01:09:55,840
safeguards, I'm willing to discuss them.
Um, it's just simple. Don't regulate the

660
01:09:54,239 --> 01:10:01,040
the vehicle based solely on what it's
called. Regulated based on how safely it

661
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:05,520
is equipped and operated. Um, Kansas has
already established framework and

662
01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:09,840
nighttime golf cart operation. Pratt has
the authority to obviously decide

663
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:13,760
whether to authorize it. Um, I I do
believe that PRA can protect public

664
01:10:11,679 --> 01:10:17,760
safety without unnecessarily restricting
responsible citizens who are willing to

665
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:24,800
register, ensure equip and operate your
golf carts responsib responsibility. Um,

666
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:28,800
as many of you know, I I live on Dennis
Gall. That's where my business is. I

667
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:33,520
have a laundromat. I get calls all hours
of the night. Um, sometimes somebody's

668
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:38,880
laundry stuck in there or my machine ate
their money. It's easier for me just to

669
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:42,320
hop on the golf cart, run down there and
and you know get their laundry out or

670
01:10:40,719 --> 01:10:45,280
whatever. Sometimes people have a crash
in the middle of the night. They need a

671
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:51,040
rental car. I have rental cars. I just
buzz right up. Also, my my wife um she's

672
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:55,199
on the Master Gardener, which takes care
of all the planters on Main Street. The

673
01:10:53,360 --> 01:11:01,920
best time to work with the planters,
especially when it's 108, is after the

674
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:06,640
sun goes down. So, we drive down,
you know, Main Street and we pull the

675
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:11,600
flags. We put up um you know, what
whatever [clears throat] the whatever

676
01:11:08,159 --> 01:11:15,920
she's doing with with the planners. Um I
I feel like this is a reasonable

677
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:21,760
request. I've already talked um to
Regina about this. I talked to our

678
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:27,199
previous intern police chief and we
didn't really see much of a problem. I

679
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:34,560
know um our current police chief is not
really for this. However, I feel like

680
01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:40,080
when properly equipped, they have the
same things that a motor vehicle does,

681
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:43,440
including a van, a tag. You know, why
why are we requiring headlights to get

682
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:47,600
it before it's registered when we can't
even drive it after dark?

683
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:52,239
So, I'm asking the city commission to
adopt uh the state statute.

684
01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:58,400
» So,
I I appreciate Terry coming and

685
01:11:55,520 --> 01:12:03,440
exercising his, you know, his
citizen duty to or or his rights to

686
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:08,239
discuss this with you.
I I will I do want to to make sure that

687
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:11,360
I am supporting our chief of police
though. And I think when when when Terry

688
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:14,719
and I first talked about it, I said,
well, the last chief of police, the

689
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:19,760
chief of police who was in place at the
time the ordinance was written was very

690
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:25,520
clear. He didn't want any any of these
on the street at all. And so then as a

691
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:29,360
compromise, we did it. We wrote the
ordinance so that they wouldn't be on

692
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:33,520
the street after sundown. And so I do
feel like

693
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:39,280
my job is to listen to our department
heads and I don't I I would like you to

694
01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:43,120
hear from Ken as well. But so a previous
chief of police did not agree with

695
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:48,400
having a master guard and Ken doesn't
agree with having a master guard.

696
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:53,440
Austin. Uh Parker, who has visited
several times as a as a visiting city

697
01:12:50,719 --> 01:12:58,000
attorney, has said that he has a number
he has a number of of cities that he is

698
01:12:55,760 --> 01:13:02,000
the city attorney for. They and he said
most of them don't allow the golf carts

699
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:05,280
on the street after dark. Sean, what is
your experience?

700
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:11,040
» Yeah, and I did some research before we
got in here. Um [clears throat] city of

701
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:15,679
Witchah, same thing. um after dark
they'll they they they don't allow them.

702
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:19,360
And then I did some small, you know,
some smaller jurisdictions, too, and

703
01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:23,920
they're all seem to be kind of along all
the same lines after dark and before

704
01:13:22,159 --> 01:13:27,600
sunrise.
They're not alone.

705
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:29,520
» Thank you. Can Can you express to the
commissioners why you're opposed to

706
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:34,239
that?
>> Certainly. Um quite honestly, I'm

707
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:39,600
opposed period, as the previous chief
was, to them being on the roadways day

708
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:45,440
or night. And part of that reasoning is
they're not built to take impacts. If a

709
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:51,120
if a car hits a golf cart, you got a
little aluminum frame or whatever,

710
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:54,640
there's no airbags. Um there's no the
impact they're not impact resistant

711
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:58,000
frames.
The standard golf carts that a lot of

712
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:02,080
people have, you know, the older ones,
they do sit lower, so their lighting is

713
01:14:00,159 --> 01:14:06,000
lower. So at night, that's going to make
that a little more difficult to see when

714
01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:10,320
that lighting is this high off the
ground as opposed to a motor vehicle

715
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:16,719
when their lighting's 18 to 24 in off
the ground. So there's more of a chance

716
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:22,880
of not being seen and an incident
happening after dark because it's not

717
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:28,640
with lit as well or sitting up as high.
And again, traveling at night, a pickup

718
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:35,600
or an SUV or even a car versus a golf
cart, I understand it can happen at both

719
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:40,320
times, daylight or night. But I just I
just see it as a hazard and just my

720
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:45,440
opinion on it.
>> So, where do we stand on electric bikes

721
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:49,760
going at night and going up and down the
sidewalk like on main

722
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:54,080
» electric bikes? We don't have an
ordinance designed to look at that. I

723
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:58,400
have been paying attention to other
communities. Um,

724
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:02,480
some comparable [snorts] size, some a
little smaller. Some of those have gone

725
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:06,719
to the electric bikes that you need to
have a driver's license and be at least

726
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:10,880
8 16 years old.
>> Is the most recent STTO, does that

727
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:15,040
address the standard traffic
coordinates? Does it address the

728
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:17,679
electric bikes
electric scooters?

729
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:21,040
» Yeah. And yeah, they're it's just as
bad. I mean, cuz those kids go flying

730
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:25,040
down the street. That's I think
something we need to look at in the near

731
01:15:22,719 --> 01:15:30,880
future. There was somebody hit yesterday
in Leewood or today in Leewood, 13 years

732
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:36,320
old, you know, hit on a scooter and they
just and the kids as adults, we learned

733
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:40,320
we've got to look when we're coming to
an intersection. But I watch these kids,

734
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,560
they come to a street and they're on the
sidewalk and they don't even pay

735
01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:49,120
attention. They just shoot straight
across. So, we do need to start looking

736
01:15:44,719 --> 01:15:53,679
at an ordinance on those as well.
Yeah, we I I'm definitely in agreement

737
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:56,960
with you, Terry, that that we need to
the electric bikes and the electric

738
01:15:55,280 --> 01:16:00,159
scooters, they have become very popular
in the last year or two. And so now that

739
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:03,120
we see that there's an issue, we
definitely need to address it.

740
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:05,760
» And unfortunately, the state level
hasn't recognized it yet. And

741
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:10,480
unfortunately, it's going to take
tragedies like happened yesterday. And I

742
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:14,000
know there was one last week or the week
before. There was another one up

743
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:17,280
Levvenworth, I believe, somewhere up
there. And it's unfortunately going to

744
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:22,360
take a few incidents before the state
steps on. So I think we need to get an

745
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:22,360
ordinance in place.

746
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:30,480
» So concerning Terry's, I have no doubt
Terry would author would drive it

747
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,159
responsibly at night.
>> Oh, you're looking at his whole I get

748
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,320
it.
>> Yeah.

749
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:39,840
» Others
question. Yeah. you know, and and so

750
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:45,199
» yeah, and you know, the safety I Okay,
motorcycles are even more exposed than

751
01:16:43,199 --> 01:16:47,760
golf carts, and they do drive.
>> Sure.

752
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:52,880
» Um
my tendency is to defer to the new chief

753
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:56,719
just out of respect for
>> him taking office.

754
01:16:55,040 --> 01:17:01,360
I can be swayed. Yeah,
>> if you guys have a strong opinion.

755
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:04,880
» No, I I agree. You know, Terry, I
appreciate I I get it. you know, you

756
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:08,640
would be a responsible person, but the
unfortunate side is we can't not

757
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:12,880
everyone's responsible and everything
like that. You know, I was I was reading

758
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:16,400
an article, speaking of golf carts, a
drunk driver hit a a golf cart and

759
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:20,480
killed a bride in there. And again, I'm
not saying that could happen. I hope

760
01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:24,719
that never happens here in Pratt, but
>> you know, I defer to our department

761
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:29,840
heads that, you know, I have to trust
them and I, you know, and support them.

762
01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:34,960
» So, my question is then why if the
scooters don't have to have tags and

763
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:40,480
insurance. Why do the golf carts? Why
why why is the city getting our $25 and

764
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:46,320
and all that? Now, I'm going to insure
mine because I I have things that I can

765
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:49,760
lose. And so, my question is is why do
they have to be tagged then?

766
01:17:47,679 --> 01:17:54,400
» Well, the state statute requires that
they have insurance and that you have to

767
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:57,120
have a driver's license. I I don't think
the statute requires them to be tagged.

768
01:17:56,159 --> 01:18:02,000
I don't know.
>> I I don't see anything. I I didn't fully

769
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:06,000
read the KSA, but I don't believe that
it has.

770
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:11,920
» I think that it's more for our local law
enforcement to be able to keep track of

771
01:18:08,719 --> 01:18:14,960
which it's also inspection. You know,
you inspect the golf cart when you get

772
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,000
the tag.
>> Yes.

773
01:18:15,679 --> 01:18:21,199
» But why does it need headlights?
>> The statute requires headlights.

774
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:26,159
» Headlights even though you can't drive
it at night.

775
01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:30,080
» Am I incorrect on the STL?
>> I'd have to look at it. Headlights are

776
01:18:27,679 --> 01:18:37,320
even required on vehicles. If if it's
rolling it, you have to turn the wind

777
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:37,320
heads on.

778
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:45,360
» As required by law. Yeah,
>> I think it's a work in progress and I I

779
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:51,120
agree with Monty out of respect for the
new chief and I appreciate the homework

780
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:55,600
you did, Sean, for other communities
that have done it. It It seems silly.

781
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:59,679
You can't hop in your golf cart and let
fix the problem and go back home. But

782
01:18:58,159 --> 01:19:02,960
» yeah, and there there actually are other
communities. I I have done some

783
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,719
research. Uh Kingman and Chimi both
allow it after dark.

784
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:10,159
» Okay.
>> Um the communities that are our size. Um

785
01:19:07,679 --> 01:19:11,440
which I can see. I mean why would you
>> Yeah.

786
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:17,600
» Why would you even allow them in the
daytime, which I mean it's it's a you

787
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:22,400
know it's a populous place. So I I I
feel like

788
01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:26,719
you know I see I see both sides. Um, I I
just

789
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:30,159
I use it as a tool and and you know, I
don't want to fire my big diesel pickup

790
01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:34,760
up just to go get someone's laundry out
of the out of the washer and and so

791
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:43,600
» see if we if we pass this, you you would
be the one that goes by the rules. Then

792
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,480
there's everyone else that doesn't.
>> Exactly.

793
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:48,080
» Right.
>> That's the problem. M that's

794
01:19:46,795 --> 01:19:53,199
[clears throat] part of my concern as
well is the ones that'll drive them to a

795
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:55,040
drinking establishment
and

796
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:57,840
» now that's the same rules as the motor
vehicle though it is if they drink it I

797
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:02,400
mean
>> they can take their motorcycle to

798
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:06,400
» Yeah I agree 100%. But and I don't know
why it is, but I have seen so many

799
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:10,880
people
>> on a golf cart with a beer, you know,

800
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:15,360
like with an open container. I for some
reason the the population has not

801
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:18,000
grassed, but no, you can get a DUI for
that. And

802
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:22,560
» and that rifle is
saying get DUI in a lawn mower in your

803
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:26,400
front yard if you got a beer on it.
>> My front

804
01:20:24,785 --> 01:20:29,679
[laughter] technically you can. It's a
motorized vehicle.

805
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:33,040
Well, you know, Terry, I do agree. The
electrical scooters and bikes, that's

806
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:36,640
definitely I do agree with Chief and
Regina. We have to start doing something

807
01:20:35,199 --> 01:20:39,760
about that because like I said, I don't
want a tragedy like happened in Leewood.

808
01:20:38,719 --> 01:20:45,199
You said, Chief.
>> Yeah. And actually, we've had a traffic

809
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:49,360
accident here in town last week where a
citizen was hit by that was on one of

810
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,600
those that was hit by a car.
>> So, so [clears throat] when you start

811
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:56,719
regulating those, are you going to
regulate them all together or just at

812
01:20:53,600 --> 01:21:00,156
night time? The scooters? I can't answer
that till we draft an ordinance.

813
01:20:58,239 --> 01:21:02,800
» Yeah. Because because if you
[clears throat]

814
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:06,880
if you put a regulation on them, then
you have kids that can't get to the

815
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:10,800
pool, can't get to the library, cuz
that's their that's how they get to

816
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:14,880
those kind of places. School.
>> Yeah.

817
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:19,120
» And and by there is a statute ordinance
that states on bicycles after dark,

818
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:22,480
they're required to have headlights and
tail lights,

819
01:21:20,239 --> 01:21:27,600
» but there are many that don't. And I see
them pass by policemen all the time that

820
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:35,000
just
they don't nothing's happened. They go

821
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:35,000
by my house all the time.

822
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:43,840
So I I feel like if we're going to crack
down, they it needs to be done

823
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:46,800
just let it pass by.
That's my opinion.

824
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:52,080
» Well, we'll have discussions about it.
We'll keep talking about it. Trust me,

825
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:56,880
the allowing our citizens to be free
while also giving them reasonable

826
01:21:54,239 --> 01:22:00,239
regulations is is our goal. You know,
we're not trying to single out anybody.

827
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:05,760
We want everybody to have as much
freedom as possible, but also to be safe

828
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:11,719
and we have a collective obligation as a
community to provide safety for each

829
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,719
other as well.

830
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,679
» Thank you.
>> Thanks, T. Thank you.

831
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:20,080
» All right, moving on to 6.9.
consideration of closing an old credit

832
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:25,800
card account. Alita, he says,
>> "Yes, you see me over there."

833
01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:25,800
» Yes, you're good.

834
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:35,520
» Okay. When our original credit cards
were opened through People's Bank, um

835
01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:41,040
somehow they got opened as a nonprofit
and it has come to our attention that we

836
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:48,960
are not a nonprofit, of course, we're
municipality. So, we need to close that

837
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:53,280
account. I have opened a new account as
a municipal mun municipality

838
01:22:51,679 --> 01:23:00,400
» and you voted on that, right?
>> Yes. And so in order to close the old

839
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:05,840
account, the credit card company needs
the minutes from commission meeting

840
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:10,800
saying that they approve for me to close
that account.

841
01:23:07,440 --> 01:23:14,400
» So that's the issue.
>> Is this your company money that you work

842
01:23:12,639 --> 01:23:19,360
for?
actually is TC [laughter]

843
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:24,159
» affiliated.
>> I'm embarrassed that they require this.

844
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:28,719
» So,
>> okay.

845
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:30,960
» So, that's all I need is just you
>> approval to close the old credit card

846
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:33,840
account.
>> Okay.

847
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:39,199
» Do do you have an account number that
needs to be referenced?

848
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:41,440
» Um, let's see. Account ending in 8649.
>> Okay.

849
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:45,960
» And it's TCM.
>> TCM.

850
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,960
» Yes. That's not the full account. See,

851
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,600
» do you want the whole account number?
No,

852
01:23:47,679 --> 01:23:53,199
» I don't think we want.
>> I got it up here.

853
01:23:50,719 --> 01:23:54,960
» And account number. What was it?
>> 86

854
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,520
» 8649.
>> 8649.

855
01:23:55,920 --> 01:24:01,480
» Account ending at 864.
>> Account ending 8649.

856
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:11,280
» I'll I'll make a motion that we close an
old credit card account from TCM bank

857
01:24:08,719 --> 01:24:14,960
account ending 8649.
>> Second. It's been moved and second that

858
01:24:12,639 --> 01:24:19,600
we close down uh an old credit card
account from [cough] KTM bank account

859
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:23,040
ending 8649. Any other discussions?
>> I'm abstained.

860
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:27,120
» Okay. All right. Anything else? All
right. All those in favor, please say I.

861
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:29,600
» I.
Extension passes 4 to zero.

862
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:35,120
» Thank you.
>> Thank you. All right. Moving on to 6.10.

863
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:38,960
Consideration of curb and gutter funding
requests for Cleveland Thompson Street.

864
01:24:37,679 --> 01:24:43,600
Mr. Shan.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, yes. This is a

865
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:49,040
request for replacement and installation
of new uh carbon gutter uh at Cleveland

866
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:54,000
Street between Pine and Thompson. This
is adjacent to the area that is uh been

867
01:24:51,760 --> 01:25:00,239
prone to flooding and extreme weather.
Uh I had uh EBH engineer uh Joel

868
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:06,000
Crochell and Jerry Starky go out with me
and we did a site survey on that and

869
01:25:02,480 --> 01:25:10,719
they came up with a oversized curb with
a high back and large pan that will

870
01:25:08,639 --> 01:25:16,319
carry in their estimation at about three
times the normal amount of volume for

871
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,319
that area. And [clears throat]

872
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:25,199
we believe that'll solve a lot of the
problem with that flooding into that uh

873
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:28,480
low area. um you saw a lot but not all.
>> Well, we haven't had the rain after the

874
01:25:26,639 --> 01:25:32,400
fact yet. So, we're still analyzing
that. Um and as soon as we get large

875
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:35,600
rains, I've been every time it rains I
go by go by there, we haven't had a rain

876
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:40,080
heavy enough,
>> right? Correct. To see what that is.

877
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:44,480
» And we're looking at other options, too.
>> Yes. Uh we're also discussing putting in

878
01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:48,880
some burm area around that, but that's
separate from this bid. Um, we did go

879
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:54,000
out for several bids from local
contractors receiving only one bid back

880
01:25:51,120 --> 01:26:01,920
from a Rosco and Sun uh in the amount of
$20,000 uh even and that is for 260

881
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:05,840
linear feet of curbon gutter and the
alley approach on the south side of

882
01:26:03,679 --> 01:26:10,080
Cleveland Street to increase the pitch
angle of that so that the flood waters

883
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:15,600
don't crest over that as reported from
the residents there. Uh

884
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:22,000
so that is what I'm requesting at this
time is for 260 linear feet of curbon

885
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:27,120
gutter and the uh alley approach repour
by Rosco and Sun Concrete in the amount

886
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:32,800
of $20,000 and that will come out of
special street fund 452407

887
01:26:30,639 --> 01:26:38,239
» and could you just explain what is the
special street fund out of

888
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:42,800
» that is the uh tax revenue fund that
goes to the general fund that is

889
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:46,880
specific specifically allocated to
street curb and gutter and sidewalk

890
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,239
repair.
>> Perfect. Thank you.

891
01:26:47,679 --> 01:26:52,400
» Y
>> and in your opinion 20,000 is a

892
01:26:50,239 --> 01:26:56,960
reasonable dollar amount for this work
>> based on uh previous work and the amount

893
01:26:54,560 --> 01:27:00,639
of square or linear footage and extra
volume of pan. Yes, this is very

894
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:03,840
reasonable. I was hoping to get more
bids but

895
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:08,960
» so are they doing the catch basin too
and the curbon gutter or this is just

896
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:11,679
the curb? They are doing the curb gutter
and the alley approach.

897
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,875
» And the alley approach.
>> Yes. [snorts]

898
01:27:16,239 --> 01:27:26,159
» I'd make a motion that we approve the
funding request uh for the $20,000 curb

899
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:31,440
gutter replacement on Cleveland Street
from Arasco and Sun Concrete.

900
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:36,400
Second. It's been moved and second that
we approve the purchase or the approve

901
01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:40,719
the purchasing of redoing the curb and
gutter funding request for Cleveland

902
01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:45,040
Thompson Street for a total of $20,000
from Arasco and Sun Concrete. Any other

903
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:50,480
discussions? All those in favor, please
say I. I. Okay, perfect. All right, last

904
01:27:48,639 --> 01:27:55,440
thing is consideration of funding
request for servers. Mr. Sean Cole, our

905
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:57,840
new IT director.
>> Look at that. He's [clears throat] been

906
01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:01,120
with us a couple of weeks and he's
asking for money on it.

907
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:05,360
» Yeah. How about that?
>> But Jeremy Nelson is also here because

908
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:08,400
he's going to um
>> he'll be [clears throat] heavily he's

909
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:11,760
been involved in the discussions, you
know, previous uh and he's really good

910
01:28:10,480 --> 01:28:17,040
at the dispatch stuff.
>> Okay. So, uh requesting final approval

911
01:28:15,199 --> 01:28:23,199
for the purchase of hardware for the
city's proxmox uh virtualization cluster

912
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:29,360
project. This project initially would
had was started under previous IT

913
01:28:26,159 --> 01:28:37,360
directors uh with [snorts] along with uh
Jeremy Nelson and Echo IIT ops to um uh

914
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:46,560
evaluate alternatives for our current
VMware virtualization server. Um, and

915
01:28:41,679 --> 01:28:51,840
this was already uh evaluated and uh
reviewed by the uh emergency board and

916
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:58,719
so we're just coming for approval. uh
the uh the main reason that we're doing

917
01:28:54,639 --> 01:29:04,960
this is that our current VMware software
is uh has some we have in substantial

918
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:11,199
increase in licensing costs
um that is is ongoing and so we needed a

919
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:16,800
virtualization pro platform that would
continue to provide reliability

920
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:24,320
um and functionality without tying us to
these increasing costs. Um, Proxmox was

921
01:29:22,159 --> 01:29:30,960
selected because this is an enterprise
level platform for this. It supports

922
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:36,320
clustering so that if one piece of
hardware goes down uh that it could

923
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:44,960
these servers could be transferred to
other computers so that they would

924
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:50,560
continue to stay operating. Um and uh
this is uh to provide uh redundancy.

925
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:58,400
Um
and this was a many of these servers are

926
01:29:55,840 --> 01:30:06,239
for uh 911
services and dispatch services. Uh so

927
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:11,440
that would help to keep our uptime uh up
so that we didn't have just a single

928
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:17,600
point of failure. Um but the timing of
this is also significant. Our VMware

929
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:24,560
licensing is going to expire on August
the 31st.

930
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:32,719
Um and so uh this was this approval
would help us to go ahead and pro to

931
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:39,679
purchase hardware uh to pro to uh have
Proxmox installed as the VMware as the

932
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:46,960
VM solution. uh the virtual machine
solution. So uh one of the advantages of

933
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:56,320
Proxmox is that it it doesn't have the
ongoing licensing costs. Uh this request

934
01:30:50,320 --> 01:31:04,320
is only for hardware. Uh Prox also does
uh offer support costs if if you would

935
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:08,800
if we wanted to go that route, but it is
substantially uh less expensive than

936
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:14,560
VMware.
Um this uh

937
01:31:12,480 --> 01:31:19,760
and so the approval just will allow us
to go ahead with that hardware purchase

938
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:24,400
to keep that implementation on schedule.
Um, since I've joined the city, I've

939
01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:28,560
kind of reviewed [cough] this proposal
and and that that even though that this

940
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:34,400
was something that a previous director
had, IT director had put together, I I

941
01:31:32,159 --> 01:31:39,280
support it. Uh, support moving forward
with it. I've got prior hands-on

942
01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:45,040
experience with using Proxmox and so I'm
familiar and comfortable with with using

943
01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:47,360
it. Um, also we have we have Jeremy
Nelson here this evening with us.

944
01:31:47,303 --> 01:31:53,520
» [clears throat]
>> uh he was involved with the initial uh

945
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:58,639
evaluation of it and hardware design and
and if you have any additional questions

946
01:31:55,920 --> 01:32:02,080
he he also provided
>> well information

947
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:05,520
» the system you're you're uh that we
discussed at the emergency management

948
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:11,760
meeting Jeremy that you were at. I mean,
it was it the the system was an it's an

949
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:16,123
interesting system because it it it's
it's built-in redundancy, right? If you

950
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:19,920
have a failure of I can't I'm
[clears throat] not it like you guys, so

951
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:23,440
I don't know all of the words, but if
you had a failure in one system, there

952
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:27,760
were two redundant systems and so one
would pick up if one failed, it would go

953
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:31,600
to the redundant system and then you
could replace the one that failed

954
01:32:29,199 --> 01:32:35,760
without any any disruption, any
emergency management calls. the idea.

955
01:32:34,239 --> 01:32:37,840
So,
do I need to be up there? Can you hear

956
01:32:37,199 --> 01:32:40,000
me?
>> We should be able to hear.

957
01:32:38,719 --> 01:32:46,080
» Yeah, we should be able to hear.
>> Wonderful. So, it's a cluster. So, it's

958
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:49,040
a small cluster. We're putting three
three different physical servers

959
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:55,280
together where they're going to work
together and cooperate. Um, there's been

960
01:32:53,600 --> 01:33:00,480
historically, recent history, there's
been some lightning strikes uh at the PD

961
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:06,000
that have taken down servers.
um and

962
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:11,120
I don't want to say disabled but put the
911 in a in a behind the a uh so

963
01:33:10,480 --> 01:33:15,520
» significantly
>> the idea is put the three servers in if

964
01:33:13,440 --> 01:33:21,920
we were to lose
have some type of catastrophic event

965
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:27,920
lightning hardware failure on its own we
would still have two machines that would

966
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:33,920
would carry the weight and we our impact
or our downtime would be negligible if

967
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:39,360
if any um
try not to get real technical here. So

968
01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:45,120
these are physical devices. The server
that the operating system that 911 would

969
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:50,400
interact with is called a virtual
machine. And these this virtual machine

970
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:56,719
or machines would
would migrate or we would migrate them

971
01:33:53,600 --> 01:34:01,360
in the case of a hardware failure with
like with the minimal down time. that

972
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:09,440
that's the idea behind it. And so if we
did have a catastrophic failure on one,

973
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:13,840
I don't know if I I have to look at the
design, but potentially even two

974
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:18,960
machines. We would still have services
available for 911 and and the community.

975
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:27,040
» Unfortunately, since the last lightning
strike, 911 has had several glitches.

976
01:34:22,639 --> 01:34:30,719
they can't hear each other or uh
several instances where Christine said

977
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:39,360
this is truly a safety issue. It's an
officer safety issue that they need to

978
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:44,159
get um the new hardware in. As far as
the the VMware, it's my understanding

979
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:49,920
that that what is currently being used
was purchased by Motorola and Motorola's

980
01:34:47,440 --> 01:34:55,920
costs are much higher and that even
though this cost for this hardware is an

981
01:34:53,360 --> 01:35:01,199
expensive cost. [clears throat] Um part
of it will be covered by 911 funds. Uh

982
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:05,760
the two lightning strikes that we had
two years in a row have depleted any

983
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:13,920
reserves and 911 funds. our 911 funds
are um tight. The county uh is going to

984
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:17,920
share some of the cost as well. So
>> once we move over, correct? Or are they

985
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:20,639
sharing some of the cost now?
>> I believe that they're going to share

986
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:27,360
some of the cost for the hardware moving
to the crux system. And [snorts]

987
01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:32,239
anyway, so it's it really is it's a
sheriff's department safety issue. is a

988
01:35:29,199 --> 01:35:38,159
prep PD safety issue and it's a 911
functionability issue. Also, if we don't

989
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:45,120
move to this Proxmox, what that means
necessarily is that we continue with the

990
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:47,679
VM that we have and then we pay higher
uh licensing fees.

991
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:52,159
» Correct?
>> Did Did I say that correctly you guys?

992
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:58,880
» Absolutely correct. The current So
VMware VMware was recently bought out by

993
01:35:55,360 --> 01:36:06,960
a third party company. The
The costs for the city were negligible,

994
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:13,040
very small. Current cost for renewing
the VM software piece is about $15,000

995
01:36:10,639 --> 01:36:17,760
a year
at ongoing and whatever we're going to

996
01:36:15,679 --> 01:36:23,120
be subject to for future price
increases. Proxmox is an operating

997
01:36:20,239 --> 01:36:28,960
system that drives the the virtual
machines, the pieces that 911 would

998
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:34,197
dispatch or 911 dispatch would use. And
that is current that is an open- source

999
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:36,217
free software that is enterprise grade.
[clears throat]

1000
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:45,199
So we're trying to eliminate that that
ongoing $15,000 a year plus.

1001
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:51,600
» Well, it sounds like this is something
we definitely need to do. So,

1002
01:36:48,719 --> 01:36:55,119
Bonnie, do you want to or Brad or
>> Yeah, I I'll make a motion that we

1003
01:36:53,360 --> 01:37:00,320
approve the funding request for the
servers as directed by Sean.

1004
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:04,960
» Second. It's been moved and seconded
that we approve the funding request for

1005
01:37:02,159 --> 01:37:09,560
the servers from the Echo IT LLC and
Jeremy Nelson for the total of

1006
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:09,560
$25,57.50.

1007
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:17,679
Uh, any other discussions? All in favor,
please say I. I.

1008
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:21,760
» All right. You guys go. Okay.
All right. Moving on now to open public

1009
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:25,840
comment. City matters only. Three minute
time limit. Public is allowed to speak

1010
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:30,000
on issues or items not scheduled for
discussion on the agenda. Comments

1011
01:37:28,159 --> 01:37:33,280
should be limited to issues and observe
the business and governing body. Protect

1012
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:36,239
the privacy interest of individual
employees and to avoid discussion of

1013
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:39,760
marriage not appropriate for open
session. Comments regarding hiring,

1014
01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:43,440
discipline, performance, conduct,
investigation, resignation, termination,

1015
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:47,199
and other employment statuses of any
specific non-electric city employee will

1016
01:37:45,119 --> 01:37:50,080
not be permitted during open comment.
Speakers may address general city

1017
01:37:48,719 --> 01:37:54,000
policies, practice, department
operations, or service concerns, but not

1018
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:56,719
individual personnel matters. The
commission will not discuss or debate

1019
01:37:55,360 --> 01:38:00,800
these items, nor will the commission
make decisions on items presented during

1020
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:07,639
this time. Members of the public are
limited to three minutes or comments.

1021
01:38:03,199 --> 01:38:07,639
Anyone from the a Oh, Tammy.

1022
01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:16,159
» Tammy Coleman. I'm representing the
impact group tonight. Um, that's the,

1023
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:19,440
uh,
>> it's on that list.

1024
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:25,360
» I'm their meaningful projects
coordinator. And what we are planning,

1025
01:38:22,719 --> 01:38:30,800
uh, September the 11th is a national day
of service. And so on September the

1026
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:35,600
12th, we are going to have a cleanup
event.

1027
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:41,679
Um we are going to be staged at the
corner of um Finchum and Sixth Street at

1028
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:46,800
the dental office there. And then we
have volunteers who will be cleaning

1029
01:38:45,198 --> 01:38:52,159
[clears throat] Finchum Street, you
know, gathering garbage and Sixth Street

1030
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:55,840
uh down to Country Club Road. And I just
wanted to make you aware that this event

1031
01:38:53,840 --> 01:39:01,040
is happening and invite anybody who
wants to participate uh to come out and

1032
01:38:58,719 --> 01:39:04,560
help us for the day of service. And
we're going to start at 7:30 in the

1033
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:08,520
morning
on September the 12th.

1034
01:39:09,440 --> 01:39:15,760
» Staged along there for pickup.
>> That would be nice.

1035
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:18,560
» I don't know how many we're going to
require. Huh?

1036
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:20,719
» You tell me the day of the week.
>> That's a Saturday.

1037
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:24,960
» Saturday
>> because September 11th is on a Friday

1038
01:39:22,639 --> 01:39:28,000
and we just moved it to that Saturday.
>> I'll arrange for sanitation to get

1039
01:39:26,480 --> 01:39:33,119
upstaged along there.
>> Okay. Thank you very much.

1040
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:37,520
All right. Anyone else from the audience
like to speak?

1041
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:46,560
Okay. That being said, we'll now move
into reports. The manager, Miss G.

1042
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:53,199
So, I was um out of the office last week
visiting my child who moved to the West

1043
01:39:50,480 --> 01:40:00,159
Coast recently in a military move. So,
um I don't have a lengthy report. Uh but

1044
01:39:56,560 --> 01:40:08,159
what I did the prior week was um Jamie
and I had meetings with S&P and with

1045
01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:12,320
Steel regarding the bond um issuance and
Jamie really enjoyed that process and

1046
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:18,960
he'd like to do it again. I'm kidding.
It was a very it was it was incredibly

1047
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:24,320
tedious. Uh the other thing I also I'm
on the Kansas Municipal Utilities Board

1048
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:29,280
of Directors and um they had a meeting
last Wednesday in McFerson that I

1049
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:35,280
attended and there's just so much good
networking and information um you know

1050
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:41,040
sharing uh I I do find Pratt's
involvement in that to be incredibly

1051
01:40:37,119 --> 01:40:45,840
beneficial. Um I also met with a
representative from the Union Pacific

1052
01:40:42,639 --> 01:40:53,280
Railroad. uh he came and he just shared
with me uh you know their hopes that

1053
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:55,840
their merger is is still in the um the
feds have

1054
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:59,040
» the merger was denied the first go
round, wasn't it?

1055
01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:03,760
» I believe it was. Yeah. Um but he said
that if the merger is approved this

1056
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:10,800
time, then they would be the first rail
country rail company in history that

1057
01:41:07,199 --> 01:41:14,719
operates rails from coast to coast. that
that right now you've got a different

1058
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:18,800
rail company doing the east coast, a
different rail company doing the west

1059
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:26,320
coast. Also, he said that um if it goes
through they have a a a plan to increase

1060
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:32,639
the the the shoulder of the rail here in
Pratt, which should help alleviate some

1061
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:37,440
of the train traffic that the the the
trains crossing, you know, blocking.

1062
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:41,920
» You know what I'm saying?
>> 281. Yeah. where where our emergency

1063
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:44,960
services have had our technician back
and forth. So, I I thought that that was

1064
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:48,600
an interesting meeting. [snorts]
>> Okay. Well, I will say I thought Jamie,

1065
01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:50,560
you were did a great job while you
[clears throat] were gone. There was

1066
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:54,159
Nope.
>> Always do. [laughter]

1067
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:59,679
» All right. We gone more often, I guess,
is what we're doing.

1068
01:41:56,400 --> 01:42:02,239
» No, pizza parties, then we're not I'm
teasing.

1069
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:06,320
» So, all right. Any other questions for
Regina? All right. Thank you, Regina.

1070
01:42:04,480 --> 01:42:10,480
All right. Public works, Mr. Champl.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, Coven and the

1071
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:13,920
water crew have completed the
installation of the water lines out at

1072
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:18,639
the point. That ditch is all back filled
and they're currently doing pressure

1073
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:23,920
test and chlorine uh disinfection on
that line. So, they are wrapping that up

1074
01:42:20,719 --> 01:42:28,800
very quickly. Uh, wastewater has
transitioned into the southeast corner

1075
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:32,239
of town with maintenance and are quickly
getting through all of that. They are

1076
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:36,239
going to go back around and hit what we
call the trouble spots after they have

1077
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:41,760
completed the whole town's maintenance
just to double down on areas that we

1078
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:47,040
have had concern with. Uh we had a sewer
back up on the 100 block of Stout

1079
01:42:43,679 --> 01:42:54,320
Street. Reported no damage at that. Uh
blockage was cleared very quickly and

1080
01:42:50,239 --> 01:42:56,880
the resident said they only had a small
splashing of water in their basement.

1081
01:42:56,066 --> 01:43:02,239
[clears throat]
Quick clean up, no problem. Um, street

1082
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:07,840
department has been out all last week
with their asphalt recycler patching um,

1083
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:12,960
uh, holes all over town and through
Lemon Park. Uh, currently they have a

1084
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:16,960
large array [clears throat] of thermal
crackings over [cough]

1085
01:43:15,679 --> 01:43:22,639
uh, that I believe they're getting ready
to mill out and start patching those in.

1086
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:29,199
Parks department removed three trees at
Lemon Park by the West Gazebo. Uh and

1087
01:43:27,199 --> 01:43:35,366
then next week they are going or this
week they're going in May Dennis to

1088
01:43:31,119 --> 01:43:39,679
remove I believe Danny said 13 trees
[clears throat]

1089
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:46,320
uh on the east side of the drainage
ditch. So uh sanitation and cemetery

1090
01:43:43,119 --> 01:43:53,119
nothing to report. Everybody's just uh
keeping busy and beating the heat. We

1091
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:57,199
did receive the trash truck perfect
Wednesday of last week. So far

1092
01:43:55,360 --> 01:44:03,920
everything appears to be fine on it.
Nothing no issues. Uh I've got with Dean

1093
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:07,679
Simon we have the uh lease agreement on
my desk. It just needs to be looked over

1094
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:13,119
and signed and then we'll finish that
process. Okay.

1095
01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:19,040
» Um
public works uh the 400 block of South

1096
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:24,880
Main Alley is complete. That'll have to
the end of this week for um the concrete

1097
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:30,960
to cure. then we can open that back up.
Uh storm box repair at Oak and 6th was

1098
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:36,880
completed by Rosco. Uh and I'm currently
working on the cost share grant for the

1099
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:40,639
Sixth Street extension again for the
fall application.

1100
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:44,639
» Did somebody run over that storm lot?
>> Yes. Okay.

1101
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:47,600
» There was another drain hit recently too
that has cones up. Is it by the

1102
01:44:46,480 --> 01:44:50,400
municipal building?
>> That one's been repaired by street

1103
01:44:49,119 --> 01:44:56,719
department.
>> Yes. uh the one that's at Oak and six

1104
01:44:53,360 --> 01:45:02,239
that was poured back extra thick with
reinforcing steel. So that one shouldn't

1105
01:44:59,440 --> 01:45:05,440
be a problem ever again. That's all I
got.

1106
01:45:02,719 --> 01:45:09,840
» Any word on well six or anything like
the movement wise?

1107
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:14,320
» Yes. Uh survey is going to be complete
by the end of this week. We have uh West

1108
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:19,119
off Plumbing going in there to trace out
two of the laterals on High Street so we

1109
01:45:17,119 --> 01:45:25,360
know where those residential laterals go
in case we have to move those uh per the

1110
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:30,000
state we can't have anything in that 100
foot radius including residential

1111
01:45:27,199 --> 01:45:35,760
laterals but after we get that survey
completed then we can see if we can move

1112
01:45:33,119 --> 01:45:39,920
forward with moving well
>> and then when's the Maple Street Bridge

1113
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:45,600
closed?
We have uh pre-construction meeting the

1114
01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:52,080
18th tomorrow.
>> Yes, tomorrow. Uh and then that will

1115
01:45:49,199 --> 01:45:54,000
determine when that project kicks off. I
believe it's supposed to be end of

1116
01:45:53,440 --> 01:45:59,280
month.
>> Okay, perfect. Awesome. Any other

1117
01:45:56,320 --> 01:46:05,040
questions for Jeff? Okay. Building
inspector, Mr. Walker or Mr. Shantline?

1118
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:09,520
» Mr. Shanine.
>> Okay. Um, since the last council

1119
01:46:07,440 --> 01:46:13,600
meeting, we've uh I've been training
with Robert and uh we've completed one

1120
01:46:12,159 --> 01:46:20,400
roof inspection, two electrical
inspections, seven concrete inspections,

1121
01:46:17,199 --> 01:46:26,960
um zero sewer this time, issued seven
mowing letters, two tree letters, true

1122
01:46:23,199 --> 01:46:33,520
removal or maintenance letters. um
designated three nuisance properties

1123
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:39,280
that'll be ongoing and uh
got a lot of the work done to prepare um

1124
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:43,679
for two dangerous structures which will
then progress through the process to get

1125
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:45,360
those removed most likely next year.
>> Okay,

1126
01:46:44,480 --> 01:46:46,320
» perfect.
>> Thank you.

1127
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:49,440
» Yes.
>> So, what is your name?

1128
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:51,920
» John Shanline.
>> Okay. Are you

1129
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,719
» any relation?
>> Yeah. His oldest brother.

1130
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:59,360
» Okay.
transfer over from power plant.

1131
01:46:57,199 --> 01:47:00,080
» He's been working with Robert the last
um

1132
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:05,280
» week,
>> just last week.

1133
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:09,520
» And you'll you're and you're taking over
as building inspector.

1134
01:47:07,440 --> 01:47:12,719
» I'm designated interum. I think there
needs to be an interview process to go.

1135
01:47:12,174 --> 01:47:15,760
[snorts]
>> All right. Any other questions for John?

1136
01:47:15,448 --> 01:47:19,679
[clears throat]
>> Okay. Thank you, sir. All right.

1137
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:23,119
Electrical department, Mr. Huber.
>> Let me start with the bond. If you've

1138
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:28,800
never experienced going through a bond
process and or a federal grant, then

1139
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:32,480
you're missing out. Those are two things
in my career that I wish I would have

1140
01:47:30,480 --> 01:47:36,639
never been a part of. [laughter] There
was a lot.

1141
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:42,719
Um, no, actually I I'm really happy the
way it all turned out.

1142
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:47,040
We're still uh Chris Negley is the
engineer on our project, which is also

1143
01:47:44,639 --> 01:47:50,960
the substation project, power plant, and
our automation.

1144
01:47:49,119 --> 01:47:54,400
So, a lot of things are going off.
You've driven by 10th Street where the

1145
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:58,080
power plants are going. There's the line
department still putting pipe in the

1146
01:47:56,239 --> 01:48:04,080
ground and they may be for several more
weeks. There's a lot to it. So, um we've

1147
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:08,320
got the area where the cat will sit.
That area is done. We're just waiting on

1148
01:48:06,480 --> 01:48:13,280
concrete crews now to come in and get
that started. We're almost done with

1149
01:48:11,440 --> 01:48:16,080
where the control house will be when
that does and they can pour concrete

1150
01:48:14,719 --> 01:48:20,320
over that and then we'll start building
a building over it. Um, but then they're

1151
01:48:18,719 --> 01:48:25,119
going to have to trench from that up to
the substations and that'll just it

1152
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:30,239
won't it'll take a while but it won't be
look like what it does now. So really

1153
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:34,080
that's all uh production just kind of
normal maintenance stuff right now. We

1154
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:40,159
got through all our testing for the
year. So, perfect.

1155
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:45,520
» Yeah. So, we've kind of neglected um
some of the maintenance outside and so

1156
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:53,199
they were on that a lot last week. Um
and really uh just the high energy uses

1157
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:58,080
right now going on. So, we've been and
that's it's normal, but we haven't

1158
01:48:55,280 --> 01:49:01,040
really seen that many consecutive days
in the hundreds. So, right,

1159
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:04,960
» it's going to people are going to pay
for it. They don't they think they're

1160
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:09,280
not using anymore. But in reality,
everybody's just

1161
01:49:07,119 --> 01:49:11,280
» I agree. I mean, but this is just the
worst time of the year. This is when the

1162
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:14,960
heat comes.
>> It happens every year. Every year at

1163
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:17,199
this time, you start getting complaints.
Yeah.

1164
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:21,040
» I've never had this bill as high. Well,
we look back last year and you know, oh,

1165
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:24,880
there it was. You were actually higher
last year than you were this year. So,

1166
01:49:23,199 --> 01:49:29,679
» um, it is what it is. And like I said, I
kind of freaked out last week when we

1167
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:34,400
got our bill. So I like I said I made a
bunch of phone calls and [cough] put it

1168
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:40,800
to ease on that. So no
the cost of of energy was the same. It's

1169
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:44,400
just you guys bought more. So
>> well and you know Jamie I appreciate too

1170
01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:47,199
you guys keeping you know not having any
brown outs or blackouts or anything. I

1171
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:51,280
know there's some parts of the state
that are they're dealing with some of

1172
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:55,520
that. So you guys are
>> and you know and we've never really uh

1173
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:59,280
experienced that like other parts of the
country. And part of putting these

1174
01:49:57,360 --> 01:50:05,440
generators in is for that reason. Yeah.
>> If that would come if somehow or another

1175
01:50:02,719 --> 01:50:08,480
the grid start shut it down. I mean
we're not going to put our customer in

1176
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:12,880
the dark. No.
>> So no way.

1177
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:14,719
» Um there was a power outage I think over
the weekend. Was that just because of a

1178
01:50:14,480 --> 01:50:18,639
storm?
>> I think there was one today actually.

1179
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:20,239
» There was one today. It should have been
resolved.

1180
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:23,600
» Yeah.
>> And it it transformed.

1181
01:50:22,239 --> 01:50:27,920
» Okay. They're starting to overheat.
They're just not getting enough time to

1182
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:34,960
cool down. So, we had loves trip off
here while last I don't kind of messed

1183
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:38,800
up. Maybe it's a week ago or so. And
we'll kind of find out. Electricians

1184
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:44,800
that were working in there that weren't
there were there working on it. So, they

1185
01:50:42,239 --> 01:50:48,080
won't fess up to why and how it tripped,
but we kind of pointed finger there. So,

1186
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:54,080
» got it.
>> But it's it's up and I think that

1187
01:50:50,800 --> 01:51:00,080
project for Lowe's is about done. So
hopefully other than that um I really

1188
01:50:57,119 --> 01:51:04,320
don't have anything else for you. Just
>> perfect. Awesome. Any other questions

1189
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:06,880
for Jamie? All right. Thank you for
keeping the city running when Gina was

1190
01:51:06,159 --> 01:51:10,239
gone.
>> I tried my best. I didn't know.

1191
01:51:09,286 --> 01:51:15,400
[laughter]
>> All right.

1192
01:51:11,119 --> 01:51:15,400
» Really? It's not that difficult. ANYHOW,

1193
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:22,119
» that's [laughter] why you got yourself
off that board of directors.

1194
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:27,119
» Experience things.
>> Yeah, we're not doing that one no more.

1195
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:31,280
So, [laughter]
>> all right, practice the crowd.

1196
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:35,679
» Thank you, mayor. Fall sports signups
are live. We got flag football,

1197
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:40,639
volleyball, and soccer in the fall and
then co-ed and women's volleyball for

1198
01:51:37,440 --> 01:51:45,440
adult stuff. Uh the point drawings got
pushed back a little bit a couple days.

1199
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:49,760
So we expect those next week um for all
the construction documents and hope to

1200
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:54,560
go out to bid uh here the first part of
September. Uh we're still doing the

1201
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:59,840
improvements at Lemon Park ball fields
and good and Dickerson press boxes

1202
01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:06,000
batting cages dugouts. We're getting
those projects wrapped up as quick as we

1203
01:52:02,639 --> 01:52:11,840
can because PCC softball starts uh next
Monday their fall season.

1204
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:18,560
So pool season's going well. As you
aware, we transition to weekend hours

1205
01:52:15,440 --> 01:52:23,599
plus adult swim. Um, and then we have
pool parties almost every night from now

1206
01:52:22,239 --> 01:52:29,440
until the end of the season. I think
we're at like 14 of the next 18 nights,

1207
01:52:27,440 --> 01:52:31,280
something like that. Pool parties.
>> Nice.

1208
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:37,599
» So, [cough] getting good [clears throat]
use out of it. Uh just a little tidbit

1209
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:43,840
for Tiffany. The concert is this Friday.
Right now it's currently a green sports

1210
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:48,560
complex. It's full house. Starts at uh 8
8:00. Gates open I think it's 7. So if

1211
01:52:47,119 --> 01:52:53,520
you're looking something for due Friday
night, come out to the concert at Green

1212
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:55,040
Sports Complex.
That's all I got.

1213
01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:59,920
» Perfect.
>> Any questions for Justin? All right.

1214
01:52:56,880 --> 01:53:04,320
Thanks, sir. All right. Uh IT
department, Mr. Sean told any anything

1215
01:53:02,639 --> 01:53:09,199
else?
>> Um, nothing really to nothing really to

1216
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:13,840
report. Uh, just getting a handle on
things and and keeping things running.

1217
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:19,760
» All right. Well, we appreciate you
coming board. So, all right. Okay. Uh,

1218
01:53:17,599 --> 01:53:25,040
anything for [clears throat] Sean on it?
Okay. All right. Uh, Robert, I would

1219
01:53:22,159 --> 01:53:28,239
just like to say personally, uh,
>> no announcements have been made.

1220
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:33,440
» Okay. Never mind. Sorry. I'll shut up
now. All right. Alita, anything for

1221
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:39,679
finance department?
Okay. Anything for Alita? Okay. I

1222
01:53:36,639 --> 01:53:43,920
apologize. Okay.
Police department chief, right?

1223
01:53:42,159 --> 01:53:48,508
» Well, do the harassment I received at
the beginning of this meeting. Maybe I

1224
01:53:45,119 --> 01:53:48,508
should stand for mine. [laughter]

1225
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:56,800
» Uh, no. Just in the last two weeks, the
department's taken 451 calls for

1226
01:53:54,320 --> 01:54:02,400
service. They conducted 96 traffic
stops. worked two traffic accidents. I

1227
01:53:59,599 --> 01:54:07,840
don't think that was correct. Um had six
misdemeanor charges, four felonies with

1228
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:15,840
one arrest, assisted EMS fire seven
times, and conducted 32 bin inspections.

1229
01:54:12,159 --> 01:54:19,679
Also, in that time, um the incar cameras
that I was told would not ship until the

1230
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:23,119
end of September, beginning of October,
arrived

1231
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:24,159
4 days after I placed the order.
>> Wow.

1232
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:31,360
» Wow.
>> So, take that. Um, we did conduct an

1233
01:54:28,639 --> 01:54:35,920
interview. We got one that cancelled. We
have sent out a offer to that applicant

1234
01:54:34,239 --> 01:54:39,840
at this time for one of the positions we
have open. Hopefully hear back from them

1235
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:46,159
by the 28th.
We did have two officers that attended a

1236
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:51,040
train the trainer for instructors for
deescalation techniques so they can

1237
01:54:48,159 --> 01:54:56,239
train our in-house people.
Let's see.

1238
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:59,840
We did conduct a couple of uh drug
search warrants as well in the last

1239
01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:04,960
couple weeks. We did have some car
burglaries again. Yeah,

1240
01:55:02,159 --> 01:55:08,560
» we did have a stolen vehicle.
We think it's just those three. The

1241
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:13,040
stolen vehicle was recovered within
about two blocks of where the burglaries

1242
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:19,599
occurred. So, kind of guessing same
person. We've been canvasing with um

1243
01:55:16,159 --> 01:55:23,599
checking Ring doorbells and the new bus
barns camera system is quite nice. So,

1244
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:27,840
we've been checking it as well.
>> Is that Do you think is the same

1245
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:32,480
burglars that uh robbed that lady that
had her car on 54 or do you think that's

1246
01:55:30,159 --> 01:55:36,320
somebody different
>> or I saw her car battery got stolen or

1247
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:40,760
something out of her car?
>> I guess I didn't see that.

1248
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,760
» Okay.

1249
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:47,920
» I think that's a county.
>> Okay, that was the county. Okay, my

1250
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:54,880
» um but the vehicle was recovered over in
the fifth in Washington area. Let's see.

1251
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:58,000
Uh first day of school Southwest, we had
five officers out there just kind of

1252
01:55:56,639 --> 01:56:01,679
meet and greeting the kids, handing out
some stickers and pencils and

1253
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:07,360
high-fiving, welcome them back, getting
the officer's faces out there again. So

1254
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:10,880
that went over well. Um
I received a report from the Humane

1255
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:14,480
Society.
>> I have no idea what you guys want on

1256
01:56:13,199 --> 01:56:20,960
that report, so I'm going to fake it
till you tell me otherwise. Uh they had

1257
01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:27,119
11 animals in, they had 12 go out.
They gave out 54 bags of food to the

1258
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:32,480
community between cat and dog food and
they had 15 surrender attempts and it

1259
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:35,119
looks like there's about four pages of
injections that were given to animals.

1260
01:56:34,719 --> 01:56:38,400
» Okay.
>> I don't know what all that stuff means.

1261
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:40,320
So if you guys want something else out
of there, tell me and I'll make it

1262
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:44,400
happen. But
>> n that's good.

1263
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:47,679
» This was from July 11th to August 11th.
>> Perfect. All right. Anything else for

1264
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:52,000
Chief Right?
>> Okay. Keep up the good work, sir. Thank

1265
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:55,920
you. All right, fire department chief.
>> Thank you, honor. Uh, didn't have

1266
01:56:53,520 --> 01:57:00,719
anything major uh past few weeks. Had a
few CO calls and uh dropped cell phones

1267
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:04,560
which were got called in as vehicle
accidents. Of course, once they drop a

1268
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:08,639
phone, it automatically sends a signal
to dispatch that there's possibility for

1269
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:12,320
a wreck. So, been out investigating
those, find out they're just drop

1270
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:17,840
phones. But, um, other than that, like
say CO calls, uh, had a few of those.

1271
01:57:15,599 --> 01:57:24,560
And then vehicle accidents, just stop
and checking on those. Um, August 27th,

1272
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:28,159
we'll be out of PCC, uh, doing that with
the presenting PRA. We'll have a booth

1273
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:31,679
set up out there to kind of welcome some
of the other kids back into into the

1274
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:35,840
college out there. And then on September
the 13th, I've got five or six of us

1275
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:41,040
that'll be doing the stair climb over in
Witchaw for 911. So, participating in

1276
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:43,119
that. So, other than that, it's about
all I've got.

1277
01:57:41,679 --> 01:57:45,360
» How's the door coming along in the
garage?

1278
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:49,040
» They're still waiting for the door to
show up when when I hear from Cheney

1279
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:52,400
door. Uh then we'll get the other two
together and once they make that cut,

1280
01:57:51,119 --> 01:57:57,360
they won't make the cut unless the
mason's there to to grab the brick work

1281
01:57:55,119 --> 01:57:58,880
and get that that brick work started. So
>> Okay.

1282
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:01,840
» Should be coming up towards the end of
this month.

1283
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:05,599
» Perfect. Awesome. Any questions for
Chief Hoffman?

1284
01:58:03,119 --> 01:58:07,440
» Okay. Perfect. City prosecutor,
>> how we doing tonight?

1285
01:58:06,639 --> 01:58:13,360
» Doing good.
>> All right. Um city uh uh the

1286
01:58:10,719 --> 01:58:16,800
prosecution, it's going well. We got the
new J-Hawk software that's we're going

1287
01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:22,560
through. We're getting it all coded
right. So it sinks over. Been talking

1288
01:58:19,599 --> 01:58:26,800
with Gina about some back due fines and
seeing if we can get a system set up,

1289
01:58:24,159 --> 01:58:30,480
get a collection agency in on that so we
can start collecting some stuff that has

1290
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:34,560
been paid in a while. And we're really
clearing out some stuff that's just been

1291
01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:37,360
sitting around for a while. Not no
movement on it. So working forward on

1292
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:42,000
that.
>> Perfect. Awesome. Any other questions

1293
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:48,000
for Sean? All right. Thank you, sir. All
right. Tara, anything from your end on

1294
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:52,560
finances or anything? Um, no. Um, we
will be doing the budget hearing

1295
01:58:49,679 --> 01:58:56,719
September 7th, 8th, whatever that Monday
is. Yeah.

1296
01:58:53,840 --> 01:59:00,480
» Uh, that Monday or Yeah, that meeting is
Tuesday. No, it's Tuesday. It's a

1297
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:03,599
Tuesday.
>> Probably should move on my calendar. Um,

1298
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:07,760
so that's the main thing coming up is
just getting the budget budget hearing

1299
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:11,280
done and approved for the next year. So,
>> and I do want to point out I'm very

1300
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:14,800
proud that we did not we are revenue
neutral. So again, I know people got

1301
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:21,920
their tax statements over the last
couple weeks and again, the city did not

1302
01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:26,800
raise their billies at all for 2027. So
again, appreciate all your guys' hard

1303
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:31,599
work on that. So all righty, anything
else for Tara? Okay, perfect. All right,

1304
01:59:29,679 --> 01:59:38,159
city clerk, Miss Garden.
>> Um, as Jamie stated, we're and you've

1305
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:44,400
seen on social media, um, we had a very
busy day with, um, customers. I think

1306
01:59:41,599 --> 01:59:49,920
the Facebook stuff kind of stirred up
concerns from those who may not have had

1307
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:55,199
those inklings, but um in most
situations, we're able to explain and

1308
01:59:53,119 --> 02:00:00,159
come to an understanding um that the
city didn't raise their electric bill.

1309
01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:03,827
But if I continue to get complaints, I'm
going to send all the phone calls to

1310
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:03,827
Jamie. [laughter]

1311
02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:13,280
But um in all seriousness, it's uh
everybody's bills went up slightly for

1312
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:14,400
electricity and it's quite frankly the
weather.

1313
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:21,840
» Yeah.
>> Um I have a smart AC unit that shows me

1314
02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:28,880
my usage and my usage this July was
significantly higher than last July and

1315
02:00:24,159 --> 02:00:34,400
my usage was um 200 hours higher than uh
June. So, it's um unfortunately that

1316
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:38,080
we're experiencing this right now, but
we're going to get through it together.

1317
02:00:36,639 --> 02:00:43,783
» Yeah, we don't want to leave out water,
though.

1318
02:00:39,119 --> 02:00:43,783
» Water, yes. Um [laughter]

1319
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:50,080
» yeah, that has been a challenge. I'll
send some calls to Kelvin. That'll go

1320
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:53,599
well. Um [laughter]
>> well, and tomorrow is not going to look

1321
02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:55,199
great. It's going to be 105 tomorrow.
So,

1322
02:00:54,239 --> 02:01:00,320
» yeah. Um,
>> and so the weather is hot and people's

1323
02:00:57,360 --> 02:01:04,800
temper temp their tempers are flaring,
>> but the public discourse and the

1324
02:01:02,159 --> 02:01:08,800
nastiness towards our employees is
really disheartening. The ladies up

1325
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:12,080
front work very very hard and when
customers come in yelling and screaming

1326
02:01:10,639 --> 02:01:18,239
and cussing
>> and they're riled up on Facebook without

1327
02:01:15,599 --> 02:01:23,840
asking the questions, what was my usage?
Brianna could pull it up. any of the the

1328
02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:28,159
front office staff can pull up what
would what were the how much electricity

1329
02:01:26,159 --> 02:01:33,119
was used last year, how much electricity
was used this year. Also, did the rates

1330
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:38,239
change because they haven't. And so
instead of people being so ugly to our

1331
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:43,199
employees, these are human beings and
they are working hard and they are

1332
02:01:39,679 --> 02:01:48,960
serving the public. And we have had
people leave city employment this year

1333
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:56,320
because of the Facebook nonsense. And so
I I would really implore the public to

1334
02:01:52,000 --> 02:02:00,639
have conversations with uh city staff in
a cordial way and we will share all the

1335
02:01:59,199 --> 02:02:04,880
information that we have with you, but
please don't come into the front office

1336
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:08,800
and yell at the employees in the front.
>> I completely agree with you. I mean you

1337
02:02:06,639 --> 02:02:12,800
guys are doing the best you can for the
city and I mean we cannot control the

1338
02:02:10,639 --> 02:02:17,440
weather. We can't control certain things
and unfortunately people think we can

1339
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:24,000
but we can't.
We have some we've discussed talking

1340
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:28,960
points um you know meter um inspections
and things like that. Uh we discuss

1341
02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:32,480
histories with people. Um we try to
identify you know somebody will come in

1342
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:37,199
and say this is the highest bill I've
ever had and we look at the history and

1343
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:41,840
that is not accurate. Um 90% of the
Facebook comments that were on there I

1344
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:47,679
checked all of their bills and n out of
10 of them were inaccurate statements.

1345
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:52,480
Uh they would say my bill went up $100,
you know, over last month. Inaccurate.

1346
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:56,639
Which actually mine did. Mine personally
did. It went up $100 because my kids

1347
02:02:54,400 --> 02:03:04,000
have been home this whole summer for the
first time ever. So my bill is um you

1348
02:03:00,159 --> 02:03:07,040
know anyway um if if people would just
have a conversation with us and ask us

1349
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:11,679
questions instead of coming to
assumptions we can walk them through

1350
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:16,639
what is going on and possibly help them
attempt to reduce their consumption

1351
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:20,400
because we do have a lot of um
suggestions. We've even been mailing out

1352
02:03:18,719 --> 02:03:25,599
little flyers to some of the people that
have had higher consumption than usual.

1353
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:30,960
And we also go out of our way, we have
uh Crystal audits as many bills as she

1354
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:35,360
can. You know, we have 4,000 bills. She
audits those to try to identify anyone

1355
02:03:33,119 --> 02:03:39,199
that might have a possible leak. And
we've even gotten yelled at from a

1356
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:45,280
customer for sending them a possible
leak tag because we are trying to do our

1357
02:03:41,679 --> 02:03:51,360
best to help you identify issues. And um
so just a general statement that we are

1358
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:55,520
working very hard to try to facilitate,
you know, good services and we're doing

1359
02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:58,239
the best we can and we're trying to be
nice about it.

1360
02:03:56,320 --> 02:04:02,239
» How many of our customers, Bri, have you
taken up the opportunity to do the

1361
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:07,040
average monthly bill, you know, after
they live? Um well there's some

1362
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:11,760
challenges with that because the
previous city clerk's policy was that

1363
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:17,920
they had to be enrolled in autodraft and
um to be quite frank that would truly

1364
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:25,679
benefit from the average monthly payment
or lower income status um households and

1365
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:29,440
they can't usually sign up for an
autodraft that has a payment coming out

1366
02:04:27,599 --> 02:04:34,560
at a specified date. They would prefer
to control when that payment comes out.

1367
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:38,800
So we I have been discussing the
possibility of changing those policies

1368
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:43,040
to open it up a little bit further. But
the challenges with that is that if you

1369
02:04:41,119 --> 02:04:47,599
sign up for average monthly payment
today and so your average is 300 but

1370
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:52,400
your actual bill for this month was
$550, then you're already starting in a

1371
02:04:50,159 --> 02:04:56,080
deficit in this program. If you go off
services in two months, then you likely

1372
02:04:54,159 --> 02:05:01,040
are going to have an additional $300
bill added to your final bill for that

1373
02:04:59,119 --> 02:05:06,880
month that you didn't actually pay your
bill. So, there's a lot of factors that

1374
02:05:04,239 --> 02:05:13,280
weigh into this and I'm trying to find a
solution that benefits the people that

1375
02:05:09,599 --> 02:05:19,199
truly need it while also, you know, not
jeopardizing our financial situation and

1376
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:22,800
bad debt and things like that. So,
there's a lot going on.

1377
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:28,320
» No, but that shows your dedication on
helping our lower income people. I think

1378
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:33,599
it's a good point that Brianna looked at
all of those comments and looked at the

1379
02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:38,159
bills and the statements made on public
on on social media were inaccurate and

1380
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:43,760
» there's there was very few that were
actual um concrete statements where yes,

1381
02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:49,920
the bill did go up this amount or
whatever that most of them. So, I think

1382
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:55,199
I'm sorry I'm on a tangent here, but um
I think what people sometimes I've

1383
02:05:52,480 --> 02:05:59,520
recently lived in another city and so is
some of my family and people

1384
02:05:57,599 --> 02:06:03,280
automatically assume that our bills are
higher. You can have an argument about

1385
02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:06,800
property taxes where I may agree with
some of it because of our lower

1386
02:06:04,639 --> 02:06:13,199
population in this county than others,
but I have done analysis after analysis.

1387
02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:18,159
anytime we have this type of uproar, we
have lower water than all the

1388
02:06:14,719 --> 02:06:22,639
surrounding cities in this area. I have
uh I went to every single one of their

1389
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:27,840
accounts and pulled their rates and
created a um formulated Excel sheet that

1390
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:32,639
will tell you exactly what you would pay
if you lived in Medicine Lodge, Goddard,

1391
02:06:30,079 --> 02:06:36,800
Kingman, wherever. City of Pratt has
lower rates than any of those

1392
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:42,719
communities around us. Goddard is the
next one closest to us. Everybody else

1393
02:06:39,119 --> 02:06:47,199
is higher. The problem is in Pratt, all
of our bills are put into one umbrella

1394
02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:51,040
with the city of Pratt. And so it's
automatically a, you know, I saw a

1395
02:06:49,360 --> 02:06:54,320
Medicine Lodge person commented and
said, "I'm only paying $200 for my

1396
02:06:52,960 --> 02:07:01,760
electric." Well, if you break down
someone's $500 bill, it may be 250

1397
02:06:57,599 --> 02:07:06,560
electric, 100 water, and $20 trash. And
so, we're not comparing apples to apples

1398
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:10,480
when we're making these statements. So
that's why I'm very happy to go into

1399
02:07:08,800 --> 02:07:12,639
detail with anyone who would like to
bring their bills in and have a

1400
02:07:11,599 --> 02:07:17,440
conversation and look at their
historical data because I can set the

1401
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:22,159
record straight and like I said find
opportunities to potentially help them.

1402
02:07:19,679 --> 02:07:27,280
There's even some state programs where
um you can uh better insulate your home

1403
02:07:25,199 --> 02:07:32,079
with government funding, you know, with
some grants if you qualify for

1404
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:36,320
especially for lower income people. But
um that's not usually what Facebook is

1405
02:07:34,239 --> 02:07:41,599
for. Facebook is for validations for
your emotional concerns and nobody

1406
02:07:39,199 --> 02:07:47,679
actually calls us to find a solution.
They want someone on their bandwagon

1407
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:50,159
with them. I would love for them to call
me.

1408
02:07:48,159 --> 02:07:52,079
» You're allowed one tangent every 3
months.

1409
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:56,000
» Okay. [laughter]
I'm sorry. I'm very passionate about it

1410
02:07:53,840 --> 02:08:01,440
because I'm I'm also paying a higher
bill, but I after working here

1411
02:07:58,560 --> 02:08:04,639
understand why I'm paying a higher bill.
And that's because my kids were home

1412
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:08,199
more this summer than they've ever been
because of their ages.

1413
02:08:08,719 --> 02:08:11,119
» Good job.
>> All right.

1414
02:08:10,639 --> 02:08:15,199
» Sorry.
>> No. Anything else?

1415
02:08:13,440 --> 02:08:18,159
» No, you don't need to apologize.
>> You're fine. Hey,

1416
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:23,280
» Jamie's mad at me.
>> No, but I'll add to that that you know

1417
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:28,400
there's rumors that city employees get
discounts on electric and water on this.

1418
02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:31,840
That's not true. We paid just like
>> I missed out on it for 16 years.

1419
02:08:31,040 --> 02:08:38,239
» Absolutely.
>> Sorry, Brad.

1420
02:08:34,719 --> 02:08:42,480
» My electric alone was $415
electric by itself.

1421
02:08:39,920 --> 02:08:47,440
» There's some users that have no idea how
much water actually used. When they when

1422
02:08:45,599 --> 02:08:52,320
you tell them by the unit and tell them
how many gallons that actually is, it

1423
02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:56,000
blows them away. Yeah.
>> Well,

1424
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:59,119
» watering two or three times a day.
>> And I've had to have those conversations

1425
02:08:57,599 --> 02:09:05,520
recently.
The average household uses 10 units of

1426
02:09:02,480 --> 02:09:10,960
water a month. If you are using over
that, you are using excessive water in

1427
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your household. If you go anywhere else
across the country, you are likely going

1428
02:09:12,719 --> 02:09:21,119
to pay a fortune for those excessive use
units. Here in Pratt, it's $2.95 per

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02:09:20,639 --> 02:09:25,199
unit
>> after 20.

1430
02:09:22,159 --> 02:09:29,840
» After 20. So, it's we still have a
reasonable priced water system

1431
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:32,639
currently.
>> Okay. Well, as I said,

1432
02:09:32,159 --> 02:09:38,159
» sorry.
>> Nope, you're fine. Uh the only thing I

1433
02:09:36,079 --> 02:09:41,920
have is two things is one, we do have an
executive session for attorney client

1434
02:09:39,760 --> 02:09:48,239
privilege after this. But the big thing
is for my report is um if you guys

1435
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:52,239
commissioners I'm assuming you guys are
fine with it, but I I want to bring this

1436
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:56,719
up. So last Friday the back to school
bash had to be cancelled due to a storm

1437
02:09:54,079 --> 02:10:01,520
and everything. So the school planned on
doing the back to school bash this

1438
02:09:58,239 --> 02:10:05,920
Friday. Um I told David Swank, I don't
think you need to show up, but I assume

1439
02:10:03,440 --> 02:10:10,320
that you guys we already approved of it.
Are you guys okay that Okay.

1440
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:13,840
» Okay. I'll just tell them that we're
okay with it. That we can still close

1441
02:10:11,679 --> 02:10:17,440
off Third Street for Friday from 7:00 to
8:30. So, perfect. Other than that

1442
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:20,639
though, I have nothing else.
Commissioner Oeller,

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02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:24,320
» Commissioner Myers, Commissioner Semons,
Commissioner Blankship. Okay. With that,

1444
02:10:22,639 --> 02:10:28,400
we'll go into executive session for
attorney client privilege. Regina, how

1445
02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:36,280
long do you think I would at least like
a little bit of a relief break really

1446
02:10:31,679 --> 02:10:36,280
quick and then we'll Yeah. Regina.