1 00:00:14,630 --> 00:00:15,230 Well, 2 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,820 it's another beautiful night in Pueblo, Colorado. I'm going to call to order the regular 3 00:00:36,820 --> 00:00:45,300 city council meeting. Today is Monday, July 14, 2025. We're going to start off our meeting 4 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:49,720 with the invocation, Pastor Jim Yury, from Pueblo Praise. Come on up. 5 00:00:52,060 --> 00:00:53,180 If you wish, stand 6 00:00:53,180 --> 00:00:57,720 with us for the invocation and then we'll do the pledge of allegiance immediately followed. 7 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:04,820 Heavenly Father, I just want to thank you for this evening and for just being able to live 8 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:12,240 in the United States of America and this great state of Colorado and Lord the headman gem 9 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:18,400 of Colorado, Pablo Colorado. We thank you for our beautiful city. Thank you for our council that's 10 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:24,000 here a mayor. The people that are here tonight representing Pueblo God. Lord, bring blessing 11 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:30,800 on every family in Pueblo, Lord. Lord, all of our first responders, Heavenly Father. Lord, 12 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:37,980 always bring safety and peace and blessing and prosperity to our city in Jesus' name. Amen. 13 00:01:59,620 --> 00:02:02,840 Mr. Clerk, we move to roll call, please. 14 00:02:03,460 --> 00:02:09,080 Mark A. Left here, Brett Boston, Dennis Flores, here, Roger Gomez, Joe Latino, here, Regina 15 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,940 Maistrie, here, Sarah Martinez, 16 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,120 we're all here and accounted for. 17 00:02:15,340 --> 00:02:17,540 We now move into special recognitions. 18 00:02:17,540 --> 00:02:24,220 First up on the agenda is a proclamation presentation for Pueblo County Fair Days. 19 00:02:24,220 --> 00:02:31,220 Vicki Ingram, Pueblo County Fair Board Member and Josie Harder, member of 4-H and Kelly 20 00:02:31,220 --> 00:02:34,700 Sloan, member of FFA and 4-H, come on up, 21 00:02:48,860 --> 00:02:49,900 right up in front. 22 00:02:54,300 --> 00:03:00,880 So this is a proclamation, Pueblo County Fair Days July 18th through the 27th, 2025, 23 00:03:01,540 --> 00:03:08,620 whereas the Pueblo County Fair would be held July 18th through the 27th, 2025, at the Colorado 24 00:03:08,620 --> 00:03:15,700 out of state fairgrounds and whereas more than 250 4-H and FFA youth entered in 25 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:21,900 over 1,200 classes in projects ranging from livestock, sheep, goats, swine, 26 00:03:22,140 --> 00:03:27,780 beef, poultry, and rabbit, dog shows, horse show, general consumer science which 27 00:03:27,780 --> 00:03:32,080 is baking, clothing, leathercraft, photography, woodworking, and many, many more, 28 00:03:32,580 --> 00:03:38,040 and shooting sports. And whereas 4-H and FFA provide opportunities for 29 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,640 for Pueblo Youth to learn citizenship, leadership, 30 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,320 and sportsmanship. 31 00:03:42,740 --> 00:03:45,380 And whereas the Pueblo County Fair continues 32 00:03:45,380 --> 00:03:48,520 to encourage participation and recognition 33 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,440 of the varied accomplishments of Pueblo County Youth 34 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,240 through a partnership with the Pueblo County Extension 35 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,800 Office and future farmers of America. 36 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,900 And whereas the Pueblo County Fair provides opportunities 37 00:04:02,900 --> 00:04:06,440 for residents to learn about agriculture, livestock, 38 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:07,960 and various arts and crafts. 39 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:24,760 Now, therefore, we, the City Council of the City of Pueblo, Colorado, by the authority vested in us, do hereby proclaim July 18th through the 27th, 2025, as Pueblo County Fair Days in the City of Pueblo, Colorado. 40 00:04:25,220 --> 00:04:35,340 And in witness where I have herein to set my hand and cause the seal of the City of Pueblo, Colorado to be affixed this 14th day of July 2025. 41 00:04:35,340 --> 00:04:39,080 So congratulations, everybody get to prepare. 42 00:04:41,550 --> 00:04:43,510 Hi guys, I'm Kelly Sloan. 43 00:04:43,670 --> 00:04:47,530 I am representing Clova County FFA as being an officer 44 00:04:47,530 --> 00:04:49,730 and in 4-H shooting sports. 45 00:04:49,970 --> 00:04:52,290 Thank you all for all of your continuous support 46 00:04:52,290 --> 00:04:53,330 for all of us youth. 47 00:04:55,510 --> 00:04:57,550 Hi everyone, my name is Josie Harder 48 00:04:57,550 --> 00:05:01,030 and I am representing the public County 4-H. 49 00:05:01,730 --> 00:05:04,510 I'm in multiple projects, such as shooting sports, 50 00:05:04,790 --> 00:05:06,490 horse, dog, and market goat. 51 00:05:06,490 --> 00:05:08,090 And I just I thank you all for your support. 52 00:05:09,390 --> 00:05:16,390 Hi everyone, I'm Vicki Ingram, I'm a fair member and we would love to see you I would come out and visit at the fairgrounds and see all the kids as hard work. 53 00:05:43,620 --> 00:05:52,780 Next up is a recognition presentation for the 2025, 2026 Colorado State Fair Fiesta Queen in court. 54 00:05:52,780 --> 00:06:01,720 Alicia Jimenez, pageant chair in the fiesta queen and court is a bell Ava Rosalus, Dolce Maria, 55 00:06:02,060 --> 00:06:09,060 Valenzuela, Stephanie Beltran, Jalen Nicole Wagner, and Stephanie Calzadillas Rojo. 56 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:10,820 Are you here? 57 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:11,860 That was pretty good. 58 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:13,000 Come on down. 59 00:06:13,140 --> 00:06:13,560 Come on down. 60 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:38,940 Before we begin and recognize these beautiful women here, I'd like to introduce the president 61 00:06:38,940 --> 00:06:44,180 the Fiesta Day Committee, Susan Werthes, the Vice President of the Fiesta Day Committee, 62 00:06:44,420 --> 00:06:53,760 Ivan Reyes, and Alicia Jimenez, who is the court chairman or pageant chair. 63 00:06:54,040 --> 00:07:01,000 Okay, I knew I was going to miss that. But anyway, as many as you know, this is quite an organization. 64 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:07,500 The Fiesta Day at the Colorado State Affairs become the biggest day of the whole week 65 00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:10,360 or the whole 11 days, I think it is, the state fair. 66 00:07:10,980 --> 00:07:13,640 And so these people work year-round to make that happen. 67 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,980 But I think one of the most beautiful things that they do 68 00:07:17,450 --> 00:07:19,380 is I have the Fiesta Day Court. 69 00:07:19,860 --> 00:07:22,140 And I'd like to introduce all five of you. 70 00:07:22,660 --> 00:07:24,620 And actually, I'm going to do it different. 71 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,560 I'm going to let all of you introduce yourselves 72 00:07:27,300 --> 00:07:30,460 before I read the proclamation and the... 73 00:07:31,740 --> 00:07:32,120 Hello. 74 00:07:32,340 --> 00:07:34,040 My name is Stephanie Calcellille-Jorjo. 75 00:07:34,620 --> 00:07:36,900 I am a student at Colorado State University of Pueblo, 76 00:07:36,900 --> 00:07:38,660 and I am studying political science. 77 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,800 Hi everyone, my name is Jalen Nicole Wagner. 78 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,140 I am a student at the University of Colorado 79 00:07:45,140 --> 00:07:46,060 and Colorado Springs. 80 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,900 I'm studying human physiology and nutrition 81 00:07:47,900 --> 00:07:49,060 and I'm your third attendant. 82 00:07:50,620 --> 00:07:52,200 Hi, good evening everybody. 83 00:07:52,540 --> 00:07:53,700 My name is Stephanie Rithran. 84 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,120 I'm attending CSU Global this fall 85 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,740 and I'm majoring in biology 86 00:07:57,740 --> 00:07:59,860 to have a pre-eventory concentration 87 00:08:00,340 --> 00:08:03,300 as well as I'm minoring a sustainability chemistry 88 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:04,760 and Spanish. 89 00:08:06,060 --> 00:08:25,340 Hi everyone, thank you so much for being here. I'm this year's Miss First Attendant. My name is Dulce Valenzuela. I am so privileged to attend University of Colorado Boulder where I'm double majoring in molecular, cellular and developmental studies as well as women in gender studies with a hopeful goal of becoming a PA in the near future. Thank you all for being here. 90 00:08:26,620 --> 00:08:40,760 Hello everybody. Thank you so much for having us tonight. My name is Isabel Rosales and I have the honor of serving as a 2025 Colorado State Fair Fiesta Queen. I will be attending Colorado State University for Collins in the fall where I will study and marketing and mass communication. So thank you. 91 00:08:41,820 --> 00:08:44,400 Terrific, terrific. Now I get to read this. 92 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:53,230 This is a certificate of recognition presented to the 2025-26 Colorado State through Fiesta 93 00:08:53,230 --> 00:08:58,230 Queen, Isabella Eva Rosales, and your court. 94 00:08:58,650 --> 00:09:07,950 So congratulations, and Dulce Maria Valenzuela, first attendant, congratulations, Stephanie 95 00:09:07,950 --> 00:09:15,930 Beltran, second attendant, congratulations, Jaylen Nicole Wagner, third attendant, congratulations, 96 00:09:15,930 --> 00:09:24,470 Congratulations and to Stephanie, Galsadillas, Roja, what a beautiful name you have, you got the best name. 97 00:09:25,110 --> 00:09:28,630 Anyway, missed congeniality and congratulations to all of you. 98 00:09:29,130 --> 00:09:37,850 The City of Puebla would like to congratulate you on your court on this accomplishment of the 2526 Colorado State Fair Fiesta Queen and Court. 99 00:09:38,430 --> 00:09:44,530 May your reign be successful, fulfilling and may you continually serve as representatives of 100 00:09:44,530 --> 00:09:46,370 the Hispanic culture throughout the year, 101 00:09:46,890 --> 00:09:49,450 signed by Mark Alif, President of the City Council, 102 00:09:49,650 --> 00:09:51,750 July 14, 2025. 103 00:09:52,430 --> 00:09:54,510 At this time, I'd like to see if any of you 104 00:09:54,510 --> 00:09:58,110 would like to say anything, talking about any events 105 00:09:58,110 --> 00:10:01,050 or how you think this year's happening. 106 00:10:01,830 --> 00:10:03,410 Hi, everybody, my name is Ivan Reyes, 107 00:10:03,470 --> 00:10:06,630 I am the Vice President of the Colorado State Fair 108 00:10:06,630 --> 00:10:09,930 Fiesta Committee, and the proud son of the founder, 109 00:10:10,170 --> 00:10:13,690 Henry Reyes, of Fiesta all the way back in 1967. 110 00:10:13,690 --> 00:10:20,050 This year marks 58 years of Fiesta Day, 58 years of scholarships to these young ladies. 111 00:10:20,610 --> 00:10:23,810 And that's probably the proudest thing that we do here. 112 00:10:24,930 --> 00:10:29,050 If you're always, you know, anybody who's interested in supporting us, we are having 113 00:10:29,050 --> 00:10:34,990 a big fundraiser which is called Nocha the Fiesta at the Public Convention Center on August 114 00:10:34,990 --> 00:10:35,930 9th. 115 00:10:35,970 --> 00:10:41,250 We've got a mariachi, a great opening back, and this year's entertainer of the year that 116 00:10:41,250 --> 00:10:43,390 the Hano Music Awards, Stephanie Montel. 117 00:10:44,030 --> 00:10:46,630 Anyway, come check us out and thank you for your support. 118 00:10:46,830 --> 00:10:48,270 Thank you, Dennis, as always. 119 00:10:49,010 --> 00:10:49,510 There you go. 120 00:10:49,850 --> 00:10:50,770 Thank you very much. 121 00:10:50,970 --> 00:10:51,950 Thank you, that's the thing. 122 00:10:52,570 --> 00:10:54,170 I don't feel like it anymore. 123 00:10:55,790 --> 00:10:56,610 Thank you all. 124 00:10:56,970 --> 00:10:57,390 Thank you all. 125 00:10:57,590 --> 00:10:58,530 It was a pleasure. 126 00:10:59,070 --> 00:10:59,670 Good luck. 127 00:10:59,830 --> 00:11:00,430 Thank you, Mr. President. 128 00:11:00,430 --> 00:11:00,830 Good luck. 129 00:11:01,590 --> 00:11:01,990 Good luck. 130 00:11:02,350 --> 00:11:03,970 Thank you. 131 00:11:04,250 --> 00:11:05,150 Oh, picture. 132 00:11:24,510 --> 00:11:27,430 All right, now we go to a recognition 133 00:11:27,430 --> 00:11:29,890 Mission Presentation Board of Health Service, 134 00:11:30,330 --> 00:11:32,250 Eileen Dennis, come on down. 135 00:11:32,670 --> 00:11:34,450 I believe, Councillor Martinez is there to me. 136 00:11:34,450 --> 00:11:39,610 I have the extreme pleasure of giving and presenting 137 00:11:39,610 --> 00:11:42,110 the certificate of excellence and recognition 138 00:11:42,110 --> 00:11:46,990 to Miss Eileen Dennis, who has served almost 30 years 139 00:11:47,530 --> 00:11:49,230 on Pablo's Board of Health, 140 00:11:49,510 --> 00:11:51,490 which to which she's retiring from right now. 141 00:11:51,830 --> 00:11:53,510 She also served many, many years 142 00:11:53,830 --> 00:11:56,190 as the Chief Nursing Officer for Parkfield. 143 00:11:56,190 --> 00:12:03,350 So, Eileen, with great respect and sincere appreciation, the city and county of 144 00:12:03,350 --> 00:12:07,790 Pueblo, Colorado, hereby recognize and commend Eileen Dennis for her 145 00:12:07,790 --> 00:12:11,430 extraordinary commitment to public health and service to the community. 146 00:12:11,850 --> 00:12:16,690 Over more than three decades, including six distinguished terms on the Board of Health, 147 00:12:17,230 --> 00:12:21,870 Eileen has contributed her time, insight, and leadership to the betterment of Pueblo. 148 00:12:21,870 --> 00:12:31,510 So, her dedication to numerous municipal boards and initiatives has left a lasting positive impact on the people of this community, myself included Eileen, so thank you for everything. 149 00:12:32,210 --> 00:12:46,030 In witness where we are, we have here on to set our hand and cause the seal of the city and county of public Colorado to be affixed this 14th day of July, signed by Mayor Heather Graham and Mr. Swayngen from the board of county commissioners. 150 00:12:46,070 --> 00:12:46,890 Congratulations Eileen. 151 00:12:46,890 --> 00:12:46,970 I mean, 152 00:12:52,650 --> 00:12:54,990 I've never met a microphone I didn't love. 153 00:12:55,610 --> 00:12:58,390 I just wanted to for two seconds to say something. 154 00:12:59,310 --> 00:13:02,270 I've loved this chapter of my life so much. 155 00:13:02,810 --> 00:13:06,030 I think in Pueblo, we don't know, 156 00:13:06,270 --> 00:13:11,290 but the health department is the best kept jewel secret 157 00:13:11,740 --> 00:13:12,910 in this whole county. 158 00:13:13,410 --> 00:13:16,030 When everything's going well, nobody knows they're there. 159 00:13:17,270 --> 00:13:19,870 When something happens, all of a sudden, oh my gosh, 160 00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:20,730 where are they? 161 00:13:20,730 --> 00:13:24,310 And all you will always find them stepping up leading. 162 00:13:25,310 --> 00:13:29,330 I've had a lot of, I'm by the way I'm old, just so you know. 163 00:13:29,810 --> 00:13:32,610 And I am, although I will miss being on the board, 164 00:13:32,990 --> 00:13:35,710 I understand that I've got a good person coming after me. 165 00:13:35,930 --> 00:13:38,050 And you will love it. 166 00:13:38,410 --> 00:13:40,830 Stay on it for 30 years, you'll enjoy yourself. 167 00:13:41,250 --> 00:13:43,790 But I think the thing that you need to understand 168 00:13:43,790 --> 00:13:48,730 is that the dedication of the people that work at that department 169 00:13:48,730 --> 00:13:54,430 department is unbelievable. And you really don't know they're there because things go well. 170 00:13:55,230 --> 00:14:00,590 So give them great appreciation periodically because they really deserve it. Thanks. 171 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:27,540 And now we have a proclamation presentation for Scott Hobson Day, Mayor Graham. 172 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,020 It takes him a while, please. 173 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:52,760 I'm excited. 174 00:14:56,380 --> 00:14:59,960 Okay. I get the honor tonight of reading the proclamation. 175 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:28,880 Announcement of motion for Scott Hobson, July 22, 2025. Whereas today we honor and celebrate the incredible contributions of Scott Hobson, who has dedicated 26 years of service to the city of Pueblo in the Department of Planning and Community Development. And whereas Scott's extensive knowledge of Pueblo's history is unparalleled and his unwaiving passion for building vibrant, healthy communities has shown through every project he has undertaken. 176 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:36,140 His commitment and hard work left a lasting impact on our city and we are truly grateful for everything he has done. 177 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:45,220 And whereas, God's professional journey began in Canyon City, Colorado as the director of Fremont County Special District Parks and Recreation. 178 00:15:45,500 --> 00:15:55,720 He earned two national certificates, certified Parks and Recreation Professional, CPRP and Certified Parks and Recreation Executive, CPRE. 179 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:03,220 Among his proudest achievements during this time was the creation of the Arkansas River Trail and Recreation Programs. 180 00:16:04,060 --> 00:16:13,360 And whereas in 1990 Scott continued his career in Summit County as an open space manager excited to focus on land preservation and development. 181 00:16:14,260 --> 00:16:22,520 In 1998 he and his family moved to Pablo Colorado where they made their home and he began work with his first public county and then the city of Pablo. 182 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:29,220 And whereas Scott began his tenure with the City of Pueblo in 1999 as a senior planner, 183 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,920 Scott was quickly approached to help with land use and worked his way up to acting director in 2019. 184 00:16:35,540 --> 00:16:42,700 Over the past two decades, Scott played a vital role in numerous special projects including the historic Arkansas Riverwalk, 185 00:16:42,940 --> 00:16:47,260 the Kayak Park, River Restoration, and broader community planning efforts. 186 00:16:47,820 --> 00:16:51,920 Scott has led the department with inside and kindness, empowering future leaders. 187 00:16:52,340 --> 00:16:58,220 His legacy is one of service, vision, and a deep love for the people and places of Southern Colorado. 188 00:16:59,180 --> 00:17:04,640 Now therefore, I, Heather Graham, mayor of the city of Pueblo, of Colorado, by the authority vested in me, 189 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:11,020 do hereby proclaim July 22, 2025, as Scott Hobson Day, in the city of Pueblo, and 190 00:17:11,020 --> 00:17:14,260 commend him on the valuable work he has done for the public community. 191 00:17:14,260 --> 00:17:17,200 We wish you all the best in your retirement years. 192 00:17:41,420 --> 00:17:44,360 I'm deeply honored for this recognition. 193 00:17:45,060 --> 00:17:48,400 I want to thank the mayor and council members. 194 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,480 I'd like to thank my family, 195 00:18:00,170 --> 00:18:06,050 my wife, three daughters, and their families. 196 00:18:06,850 --> 00:18:13,270 I have four grandchildren here today and one of my great grandchildren are here. 197 00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:26,870 and so I wanted to thank them. They had to put up with a lot for me working with the city and I really appreciate their kindness and patience with that. 198 00:18:28,090 --> 00:18:40,360 I also want to recognize the staff at the Planning Department and we have staff members here, so we have... 199 00:18:44,710 --> 00:18:50,630 staff has always been great in the planning department and have made my job a lot easier 200 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:58,950 over the years and I really, really appreciate the work that they do. Also I want to recognize 201 00:18:58,950 --> 00:19:05,370 the other departments. A lot of the projects we did in the city could not have been done 202 00:19:05,370 --> 00:19:10,990 without the work and efforts of all the different departments that we've worked with over the 203 00:19:10,990 --> 00:19:14,690 years from the police department to the fire department, stormwater 204 00:19:14,690 --> 00:19:17,990 department, public works department, and I'm sure I'm going to leave housing 205 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:23,110 department. I'm going to park some rec department for sure. Don't want to leave 206 00:19:23,110 --> 00:19:26,910 those out, but anyway, we've worked very closely with all the departments and I 207 00:19:26,910 --> 00:19:30,970 really, really appreciate all of their work. So with that, thank you very much. 208 00:19:36,730 --> 00:19:41,830 entire family that's here tonight up here for it with a picture with him. 209 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,100 Enjoy yourself, Scott. 210 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:21,850 Okay, all of the counselors are a little shook up from the loud pop that we're now going 211 00:21:21,850 --> 00:21:36,530 move into public forum. The City Clerk made a mistake and only had five people on the rules say six. So if there's no objection by anybody on council, I'm going to suspend the rules and let all seven people talk. 212 00:21:37,170 --> 00:21:45,710 So we'll start off and go through everybody. I believe it's Jeff. I can't read your last name. 213 00:21:46,530 --> 00:21:48,490 Resolus? Yeah, come on down Jeff. 214 00:21:57,260 --> 00:21:58,920 Hi Jeff, thanks for coming. 215 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,220 Thank you for having me and giving us this time. 216 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:02,940 Absolutely. 217 00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:08,380 Anyway, I'm here. Can you turn your mic on? 218 00:22:09,020 --> 00:22:13,280 Oh, they got it. Got it. Hit it again. Hit it again. You're good. 219 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:20,620 All right, got it. Anyway, I'm here kind of representing the citizens of 220 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,660 I've lived here for 61 years, and my father and mother before me. 221 00:22:28,740 --> 00:22:33,500 Always involved in the community, my entire family has been involved from my uncles all the way through. 222 00:22:35,380 --> 00:22:39,300 Pueblo, I hear how great it is, listen to everybody talk and I believe that. 223 00:22:40,140 --> 00:22:45,680 But unfortunately, we have a big problem in Pueblo Colorado, which is called homelessness. 224 00:22:46,860 --> 00:22:56,460 I don't have the answer to homelessness, but the reason I am here is because I go to work at morning at 4.45 every morning or most mornings. 225 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,360 Right across the street from here, right across the street. 226 00:23:02,580 --> 00:23:05,160 I'm familiar with a lot of these homeless people. 227 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,520 I recognize them. 228 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:19,600 The damage that has been happening since I've worked down here for the last year in three days was my anniversary of July 4th is incredible. 229 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:31,800 The businesses that I talk to, the business owners, the people that I do know, or people that I don't even know, and I talk to them about it, that's just my reputation I like to go out and talk to people. 230 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:38,730 So, some of these businesses are ready to close their doors because of the fandalism. 231 00:23:39,730 --> 00:23:42,370 So in my eyes, that means no jobs. 232 00:23:43,630 --> 00:23:45,730 That means money lost in the community. 233 00:23:46,810 --> 00:23:52,550 That means people looking for things where it's not going to happen, man. 234 00:23:54,350 --> 00:24:00,530 I would like to see City Council and anybody that whatever it takes, I don't know, I don't 235 00:24:00,530 --> 00:24:01,390 know the process. 236 00:24:01,390 --> 00:24:09,830 but I'm here to ask you guys. I would like to see some kind of victim assistance to the local 237 00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:19,710 businesses. The local businesses seem to be shoved to the side all of the time. But on the 238 00:24:19,710 --> 00:24:24,450 news, all support your local business and everybody support them, support them, but when it really 239 00:24:24,450 --> 00:24:30,950 comes down to it, the people who mad or don't support it, it doesn't seem that way anyway. I would 240 00:24:30,950 --> 00:25:00,670 I feel like some kind of victim assistance to our local businesses to stop them from having to close doors and losing jobs in this community because of our homeless problem, the homeless people, I don't know that answer like I said before, but I think I can get an answer from you guys somehow some way to help our local businesses recoup some of the money that they're having to pay out of their pockets to pay for broken windows, to pay for busted doors, to pay for 241 00:25:00,670 --> 00:25:09,470 missing air-conditioned units to pay for merchandise gone out of their stores and we all know this problem. 242 00:25:09,470 --> 00:25:16,050 This is not new. All the way from downtown here in Cueblo, all the way to Belmont where I live, 243 00:25:16,450 --> 00:25:22,550 Belmont tired, smashed out windows. They've boarded up their windows now and just leave them boards. 244 00:25:22,550 --> 00:25:30,150 I look at that, and I don't know if it's disgusted, but I'm really, really sad about it. 245 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:31,930 That's our community. 246 00:25:32,550 --> 00:25:40,250 It looks boarded up, but yet, it seems like everybody wants to bring all these big businesses 247 00:25:40,690 --> 00:25:46,890 in which I agree, because of bigger jobs, more jobs, I'm all for that economic boom, great. 248 00:25:46,890 --> 00:25:55,190 But we're given these guys all these breaks, tax-free this, free sewer, free 249 00:25:55,190 --> 00:26:01,490 elect, whatever it is to bring these people in. Meanwhile, our local businesses 250 00:26:01,490 --> 00:26:07,270 who are already here employing maybe five to twenty-thirteen, whatever the 251 00:26:07,270 --> 00:26:13,410 numbers are, are left out there in the back somewhere. And you may say, no, they're 252 00:26:13,410 --> 00:26:19,570 but that's how they feel. Believe me, that's how they feel. Some are throwing up 253 00:26:19,570 --> 00:26:22,810 the white flag already and say we're gonna make it through this summer and we are 254 00:26:22,810 --> 00:26:28,630 done. So I'm thinking I've talked with Joe Latino about this. I said so how nice 255 00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:32,070 would that be that we bring in these big businesses that whoever wants to bring 256 00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:35,350 them in and give them all these breaks and then we got to bring them downtown to 257 00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:39,090 this beautiful building, this older retro building, which is beautiful and 258 00:26:39,730 --> 00:26:42,970 then they walk out the door and they see nothing but bust of windows and play 259 00:26:42,970 --> 00:26:48,630 I would all over these doors and stuff, that's not becoming at all, it's not. 260 00:26:49,470 --> 00:26:52,350 And I'm sure you know what, I'm preaching to the choir, I know that. 261 00:26:53,170 --> 00:26:57,210 I know there's no money in this city budget, I know that we're in the middle of the year. 262 00:26:57,910 --> 00:27:03,170 But I would like to see some kind of money, even if it's a victim assistance fund for 263 00:27:03,170 --> 00:27:04,750 these local companies. 264 00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:11,530 Even if you give them, if they're deductible, they're insurance deductible is $1,000. 265 00:27:11,530 --> 00:27:16,390 And they've got to pay a $7,000 repair, even if there's something guys, 266 00:27:16,930 --> 00:27:22,310 something to show city council, the mayor and everybody really does care about them. 267 00:27:22,830 --> 00:27:24,870 They really do, and that's what I'm here for. 268 00:27:25,270 --> 00:27:29,290 And that's what I'm hoping that you guys see the line and say, you know what? 269 00:27:30,110 --> 00:27:31,270 Okay, that's cool. 270 00:27:31,950 --> 00:27:34,770 I even think that Mr. Resolves your five minutes. 271 00:27:35,050 --> 00:27:36,910 Okay, but thank you so much for coming. 272 00:27:37,290 --> 00:27:39,350 Okay, thank you for your time, I appreciate it. 273 00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:40,550 Thank you. 274 00:27:43,710 --> 00:27:44,810 Michael Hartcock. 275 00:27:56,110 --> 00:27:58,290 Hello, Michael. Nice for coming. 276 00:27:59,210 --> 00:28:03,790 Yeah, good evening. Does this work here? Yes. 277 00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:09,530 Okay. Could I use this to show you? Yes. So my name is Mike Hartcock. 278 00:28:10,150 --> 00:28:18,530 I own Solaros Coffee. I own Mixed Air at Cream. And I own analog books and records, which is on Main Street. 279 00:28:18,530 --> 00:28:28,030 And I moved here in 2007, I'm from Oregon, and it's been largely great, there are a couple 280 00:28:28,030 --> 00:28:29,010 hiccups in 2020. 281 00:28:30,130 --> 00:28:34,510 But unfortunately the past year has been the most difficult period in running businesses 282 00:28:34,510 --> 00:28:38,130 in Pueblo, especially downtown Pueblo, especially the east side. 283 00:28:39,710 --> 00:28:46,150 I went on a road trip today through Pueblo with my son hanging out the window taking photos 284 00:28:46,150 --> 00:28:52,230 of what I see every single day in what I have to show my kid. 285 00:28:53,130 --> 00:28:56,050 Across the street from me is, I used to be the Cowboys Supply. 286 00:28:56,830 --> 00:29:00,910 I have called zoning on this building six times, seven times. 287 00:29:01,050 --> 00:29:03,790 I've met with the mayor on this building, still boarded up. 288 00:29:05,270 --> 00:29:09,270 Cowboys Supply, this is a wonderful piece of work. 289 00:29:09,770 --> 00:29:12,890 This is fourth street, this is our busiest street in the city of Cueblo. 290 00:29:12,890 --> 00:29:17,510 a downtown and it has razor wire on it, and it's just disgusting. 291 00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:19,150 This is a shameful building. 292 00:29:21,090 --> 00:29:23,590 Again, again, 293 00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:29,630 you say the street, fourth street, 294 00:29:32,530 --> 00:29:35,890 I talked to the mayor about this building and 295 00:29:35,890 --> 00:29:39,570 said it's going to burn down because someone's going to break into it, burn down. 296 00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:52,010 church burned house burned this is a cross street from my kids school burned this is what happens when you've got a 297 00:29:52,010 --> 00:29:58,830 vandal so these are businesses that are active today and this is what we have to deal with every single day 298 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:27,840 This is a broken window. When you fix the window, it has to look like something out of the ghetto. Ghetto. This is a very nice upgrade, but it's also completely boarded up. But these are nice, expensive boards. And this is probably the best we've ever, I've ever seen, and how you can fix something. But it's a metal window downtown Pueblo. This is a selfie of me showing this broken window and the broken window behind us. 299 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:37,160 4th Street, or Santa Fe, vape shop, broken 4th Street, this is also 4th Street. 300 00:30:37,380 --> 00:30:41,460 I was walking to copies in a flash, and this is what I saw. 301 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,380 I didn't see it from my car, but this is what I saw. 302 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,220 This is Union Avenue, this is being replaced. 303 00:30:49,060 --> 00:30:52,940 This is a city building in the east side, broken window. 304 00:30:52,940 --> 00:30:56,440 So this is Cinco del Sol Park. 305 00:30:56,780 --> 00:30:59,020 That's just sad that that would happen. 306 00:30:59,940 --> 00:31:06,280 This poor bar, this senate has been smashed into more times than I could even recall. 307 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,620 My landlord's concealers are fantastic landlords. 308 00:31:12,220 --> 00:31:13,820 They help with a great many things. 309 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,300 So far, they've spent over $13,000 fixing a union avenue. 310 00:31:19,940 --> 00:31:22,740 This year alone, I've spent, I've spent $1200, 311 00:31:22,740 --> 00:31:28,320 which doesn't seem like a lot, but every time it does, we've got to board it up window for a week, and I've got to pay to replace it. 312 00:31:29,140 --> 00:31:40,060 We have got codes so you can't have boarded up buildings, and the long-term vacancy buildings never get fixed, and they get boarded up, and then someone breaks in them and burns it. 313 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:46,080 How many more city buildings are old buildings do we need to lose to fire, because we're not policing it? 314 00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:52,240 I have a private security company and it has helped in great many ways. 315 00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:57,440 The city of Fueblo needs to hire private security to augment the police force. 316 00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:00,440 We need to have twice as many people on the streets. 317 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,360 We need to have around the clock patrols of the city. 318 00:32:03,780 --> 00:32:04,780 It is not safe. 319 00:32:05,420 --> 00:32:06,740 My property is not safe. 320 00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:10,060 Your property is not safe and businesses will leave. 321 00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:13,800 I've talked to lots of business owners that are leaving. 322 00:32:14,580 --> 00:32:20,020 I don't know what we're going to do or we're going to put scissors or gates across our 323 00:32:20,020 --> 00:32:24,180 building, am I going to board up solar roast? Do you want solar roast to be boarded up? 324 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:31,380 Do you? This is a disgrace. This city is falling apart. This is the worst that's ever been. 325 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,040 It needs to be fixed. 326 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,180 If I've got more time, there are different ways that we can help. 327 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,980 There's security. We can set up a fund to assist merchants who have broken glass. 328 00:32:45,980 --> 00:32:52,300 We can finally enforce these city codes that I write and submit to fix the city. 329 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,700 Buildings that have been vacant for numerous years, we could seize them, we could fix them. 330 00:32:57,860 --> 00:33:03,500 We could fix the city, could be fixing the windows and charging on the property tax of those buildings. 331 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,840 We could enforce curfews, think about that. 332 00:33:08,340 --> 00:33:12,940 Nick Sterecreme was all smashed up because three minors smashed my building. 333 00:33:12,940 --> 00:33:18,580 I gave the police department their names and their address in the city police that they couldn't do 334 00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:23,980 anything about it. But there's curfews on books so that the parents could get fined. The 335 00:33:23,980 --> 00:33:28,940 parents were not fined. I was actually called by somebody to not make contact with that person 336 00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:34,660 because that person was going to hurt me if I complained too loud that they smashed my windows. 337 00:33:35,380 --> 00:33:40,160 These kids are just running rampant. Mr. Hartgop, your five minutes is up. Thank you. 338 00:33:58,940 --> 00:34:08,000 I just want to say that I went to the transportation summit last week and it was very, very interesting. 339 00:34:08,740 --> 00:34:12,760 And I wish more people had gone there because the company that was running was great, 340 00:34:12,940 --> 00:34:17,300 there was great information and they were very friendly. 341 00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:30,720 And there I learned that Pueblo, as the highest total and fatal crashes rate of the state, 14 percent, Denver has 8 percent, both there is the least forgot. 342 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:41,800 And also pedestrian fatal accidents, we are at 4 percent. Denver has 2 percent, so that was kind of shocking. 343 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:47,120 I mean, that's probably also the reason why our insurance rates are so much higher. 344 00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:55,000 Anyway, the city is with the counties doing the comprehensive safety action plan. 345 00:34:55,720 --> 00:35:03,220 It's under the public workstab safety and there's a survey that one can take and also they 346 00:35:03,220 --> 00:35:08,740 have a lot of information as far as maps and you can tell them what places you're concerned 347 00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:09,240 about. 348 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:17,980 Anyway, it seems to me they are a great company and they want to, or the plan, it really could 349 00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:22,260 do a lot of good to Pueblo and it's a shame that so many people die unnecessarily. 350 00:35:23,260 --> 00:35:28,800 So that's comprehensive safety action plan on the city website, under public works. 351 00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:32,620 And the other thing I'd suggest you. 352 00:35:35,060 --> 00:35:43,680 The rules for City Council, the code says that the agenda has to be delivered or has 353 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,880 to be posted, not later than four days prior to the regular meeting date. 354 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:54,560 And I would like to suggest to just add a little word for business days, not just for 355 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:54,920 days. 356 00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:06,280 because this post-India agenda on Friday noon is very inefficient, doesn't 357 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:13,100 make it for good government, citizen participation. If you could change the 358 00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:19,320 code to make it happen on Monday and not having come in on Friday when 359 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,420 everybody's closed, so you have Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and you have no way 360 00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:31,480 I don't get any information about anything, not only the public, but you, so I think it 361 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,860 would make a better government, it would be better for City Council. 362 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:42,180 So you have more information to go on, just say for business days, so my suggestion would 363 00:36:42,180 --> 00:36:49,280 be that maybe it would be posted a noon, so maybe you could put a little copy here so that 364 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:56,920 by five o'clock we could see the next City Council agenda and we could get 365 00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:01,960 prepared and it would make more sense. So that's all I have to say. Thank you. 366 00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:08,140 Thank you. We now go to Zoom, Elvis Martinez. 367 00:37:10,270 --> 00:37:14,990 Did you hear me, Mr. President? I can hear you loud and clear and it's great to hear you. 368 00:37:15,830 --> 00:37:20,970 Okay, so a backtracking on the first two speakers about crime, I want to send my thoughts 369 00:37:20,970 --> 00:37:25,470 in prayers for the young danger that was shot in the wee hours of the morning because 370 00:37:25,470 --> 00:37:30,570 it was on the news and hopefully she makes a recovery and our officers make an arrest 371 00:37:30,570 --> 00:37:36,430 on whoever was involved in that case and I know that they're working on it as we speak. 372 00:37:37,010 --> 00:37:42,830 Moving on with the crime issue and everything, as you all know back in April, my car was 373 00:37:42,830 --> 00:37:49,130 spend the lives yet again. And there's video and apparently their cops can 374 00:37:49,130 --> 00:37:54,690 identify them and they failed to put it out to on Facebook like they do 375 00:37:54,690 --> 00:38:00,090 other crimes. Although it was at nighttime and their faces were looking 376 00:38:00,090 --> 00:38:04,490 down, people could probably recognize the clothing and then they ran off after 377 00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:08,770 they smashed my windows like two cowards. And I want to send a huge 378 00:38:08,770 --> 00:38:19,550 Congratulations to Mr. Hobson if he's still in the room and sad to say you retired, but I know your family is happy to have more time with you and Mr. Hobson after you retire. 379 00:38:20,330 --> 00:38:29,150 If you have no other plans on a lovely beautiful Monday evening, you're always welcome in city council chambers to visit with us. 380 00:38:29,830 --> 00:38:36,830 And then backtracking on what I spoke about back in November, December, if Madame Mayer 381 00:38:36,830 --> 00:38:43,710 or anybody on council could put together a gym bishop day because he poured his blood 382 00:38:43,710 --> 00:38:50,270 sweat and tears into the bishop's castle and was a tremendous asset to quablo. 383 00:38:50,670 --> 00:38:55,290 So if we could get that started, although he probably wouldn't want to day, but he deserves 384 00:38:55,770 --> 00:38:56,670 his own day. 385 00:38:56,670 --> 00:39:06,950 I know all of us could agree on that moving along over on Cambridge Street right 386 00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:12,810 behind the public training post every single weekend there are several cars parked 387 00:39:12,810 --> 00:39:17,250 on the street where it says no parking yet there's no parking enforcement so if 388 00:39:17,250 --> 00:39:22,470 we could get a unit there Madam Mayor or or some patrol in there so those people 389 00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:29,890 can be ticketed because that is a violation. There are several signs that clearly says no parking. 390 00:39:30,370 --> 00:39:35,190 I don't know if they don't understand the laws and rules or if they can't read. But if it says 391 00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:40,970 no parking, it means no parking. Unless if you break down and there's emergency, there's exceptions. 392 00:39:40,970 --> 00:39:47,930 We all know that. And another thing that I loved, what you posted and several other people posted 393 00:39:47,930 --> 00:39:54,670 and Adam Ayer is the young lady who was painting the sidewalks throughout town. 394 00:39:55,150 --> 00:39:59,130 If we could possibly get the sidewalks painted in front of Dutch Clark, we'd probably 395 00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:04,410 have to reach out to the athletics director, if we could incorporate all of the high schools 396 00:40:04,410 --> 00:40:05,010 and everything. 397 00:40:05,210 --> 00:40:12,270 I think that would be a wonderful addition to that area on every end of and everything 398 00:40:12,270 --> 00:40:32,730 right there, and I pretty much zoomed through what I wanted to speak on. And if I may Mr. President, I don't know if you are aware of or if it's on your paper right there, when it's time I would like to speak on Q4, Q5 and Q6, Mr. President. 399 00:40:32,730 --> 00:40:40,170 you got it. Yes sir. Thank you. Thank you. We now move to John Farley. 400 00:40:43,150 --> 00:40:45,870 Oh John. Thank you 401 00:40:45,870 --> 00:40:51,550 for coming. Thank you for picking my name out of the hat. 402 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:57,760 Good evening. I'm John Farley, a priest 403 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:06,900 of the diocese of Pueblo. Recently returned to town after 20 years out of town. I am not here 404 00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:16,820 to play gotcha is not my purpose at all. I'm here because every covenant worth its salt begins 405 00:41:16,820 --> 00:41:25,380 with a question and trust cannot grow in silence. Now when I say silence I don't mean corruption. 406 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:35,840 I mean the quiet drift when we stop asking who our neighbor is and who gets left behind. The quiet 407 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:42,760 hit drift when the promise of good work and fair wages fades to rumor. 408 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:52,900 I was really happy to see the notice of the sale, at least the preliminary 409 00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:57,780 inking of the sale from Evras to Atlas Holdings. 410 00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:04,220 I look forward, I hope and pray that that will work out. 411 00:42:04,220 --> 00:42:12,760 I mean, and we've supported the mill before and, you know, I think back just to 2019, the annexations, the incentives. 412 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,760 And we've supported them with our trust. 413 00:42:16,260 --> 00:42:26,260 We invested because we believed in the good that it would bring good work, dignity, bread. 414 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:34,220 Now in 2025, I think we all sense that there will be another support package on the table. 415 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:40,140 And it's not a bad thing because when the community helps, it means that the community also 416 00:42:40,140 --> 00:42:47,660 gets to ask, how will this next deal boost real wages? 417 00:42:47,660 --> 00:43:06,380 how will it create real apprentice sheds more than just a polishing, a corporate bottom line, especially a privately held company like Atlas, not subject to public disclosures in the same way. 418 00:43:06,380 --> 00:43:13,100 So last Sunday we met churches read the story of the Good Samaritan, 419 00:43:15,370 --> 00:43:16,870 Mercy crosses the road 420 00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:26,290 to rescue the worker in the ditch. The teenager who wonders if there's room for him on the shop floor. 421 00:43:27,210 --> 00:43:37,590 True peace begins at home and grows through good work and fair opportunity where people can 422 00:43:37,590 --> 00:43:45,650 and build a livelihood where trust takes root where the quiet drift loses its hold. 423 00:43:46,070 --> 00:43:56,950 So my question for council, for Mayor Graham, for the city, how are you ensuring our displaced 424 00:43:56,950 --> 00:44:04,390 workers and young people have clear pathways to meaningful training, apprenticeships and 425 00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:13,070 good jobs. What specific local training centers, paid apprenticeships, guaranteed slots 426 00:44:13,070 --> 00:44:22,230 for graduates, are you beginning to talk about here on council or with colleagues in the 427 00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:29,530 community and economic development process with the county and with the state. I mean, sketch 428 00:44:29,530 --> 00:44:37,850 out the basics of your promise. And their promise. Sketch it on it just on the 429 00:44:37,850 --> 00:44:42,330 back of an envelope for me. No fine print, no footnotes, no hush. What does it 430 00:44:42,330 --> 00:44:48,270 really look like? I mean, is it something you'd be proud to show a teenager 431 00:44:48,270 --> 00:44:51,750 hoping to build a life here in Pueblo? 432 00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:57,360 I'm sitting here because the best risk 433 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,760 management is 434 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,360 Convention. Not PR. 435 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:12,460 Mercy. Not silence. We all want wages strong enough to feed our families. 436 00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:20,820 We want training to keep our young people here. We want more than an incentive program 437 00:45:20,820 --> 00:45:31,520 forgotten until it's too late. Every covenant starts with a question by trust. I 438 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:38,600 hope I pray. You will answer this question in the daylight. Thank you for your 439 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,360 attention. Thank you. 440 00:45:43,110 --> 00:45:44,190 Dave DeSenson. 441 00:45:48,860 --> 00:45:52,840 Hello Dave. It's good to be king. Thanks for 442 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:58,080 I 443 00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:20,270 want to talk about reliability and redundancy at the municipal justice center and I 444 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:32,160 think it's clear that we need to do something there, but I'm not sure that we have the best design, and it seems like a number of projects have been bundled together. 445 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,800 So, for example, the lever for the computer room, that can be done independently. 446 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:42,300 That doesn't need to be, and the 8 million thing, if that's needed, then that needs to be separately justified and funded, in my opinion. 447 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:51,200 But the big thing that I wanted to talk about was the design, and the design is a two, what's called a two-end design. 448 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,280 In other words, we have 200% of cooling capacity from the chillers. 449 00:46:56,060 --> 00:47:01,120 And so that means we're paying for twice as many tons as we need. 450 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:07,280 If we were had a more modern design, we'd have what's called an N-plus-1 design, 451 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,960 where we'd have 25% sized chillers, and we'd have five of them, where we had four to 452 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:18,800 do 100% and one spare, one of the four brakes, or rotate in, or whatever. 453 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,000 So that's the thing. 454 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:27,040 So my concern is that we're rushing this because of a procurement schedule, 455 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,800 not and not getting the best thing for the city. 456 00:47:32,340 --> 00:47:38,020 So I wrote down some questions listening to Naomi and she did a great job talking, I thought. 457 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:45,160 First time seeing pictures, one thing is fine, strange is we don't know, I don't have not heard yet. 458 00:47:45,340 --> 00:47:47,900 How many tons we need of cooling? 459 00:47:48,540 --> 00:47:54,320 We don't know and the rule of thumb is $500 per ton is the cost. 460 00:47:54,320 --> 00:48:03,180 So I don't think we need, you know, 12,000 or 120,000, whatever it is that divides 4 million, you know, I don't think we need that much, but 461 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,620 Also, I don't think an insurer would 462 00:48:08,580 --> 00:48:13,960 Ensure a prototype unit they might ensure train units, but they wouldn't ensure the existing 463 00:48:14,540 --> 00:48:16,740 The one we got that was a prototype unit 464 00:48:16,740 --> 00:48:24,220 So, this system has chillers, water distribution, water return, and room units. 465 00:48:25,620 --> 00:48:31,040 And a lever is a well-known computer room cooler, so that's a very good decision, in my opinion. 466 00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:39,300 So, the plan as presented has sub-pieces, ground floor, concrete work, piping to connect 467 00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:46,540 the new chillers to the existing water distribution, addition of the lever acquisition of the chillers 468 00:48:46,540 --> 00:48:51,460 We seem to be focusing on the acquisition of the chillers, but there's a lot of other parts of this project. 469 00:48:54,780 --> 00:49:00,060 Redone and C design, this is what I talked about, and maybe we can reduce the price of $8 million to $5. 470 00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:10,480 That's a wild ass guess. That's not back with any numbers other than if we go to $125 instead of $200, it's going to be $5. 471 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:20,540 So yeah, the switchover, and so we don't even know what the switchover plan is, how will this plan have a zero-day switchover? 472 00:49:20,820 --> 00:49:25,260 So if you look at this, this, I don't know if I can put this up, thanks. 473 00:49:27,420 --> 00:49:28,880 But I have to do something. 474 00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:33,090 Thank you. 475 00:49:37,740 --> 00:49:44,060 So the way I see the problem is that the water chills are experiencing maintenance problems. 476 00:49:45,660 --> 00:49:52,320 We have more frequent, complete building shutdowns. 477 00:49:52,340 --> 00:49:57,420 The east side of the building is too hot, and the city electricity costs are too high. 478 00:49:58,020 --> 00:50:02,480 So one of the things we should think about is can we use chillers that are ice makers? 479 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:09,220 So we can make ice when we're not at the peak load time. 480 00:50:09,500 --> 00:50:13,540 That's when we want to use the ice, but make the ice when they're off peak electricity. 481 00:50:16,020 --> 00:50:19,780 And I think she did a good job of inventorying other government buildings, 482 00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:24,280 but I suggest we engage a local engineering firm, not Bridgeson Paxton. 483 00:50:24,540 --> 00:50:26,620 And I like Bridgeson Paxton, my son worked there, 484 00:50:26,820 --> 00:50:28,380 my his mother-in-law worked there. 485 00:50:28,540 --> 00:50:30,420 It's a mechanical intern, it's good. 486 00:50:30,420 --> 00:50:36,640 But so I talked about the alternate solution, and I think having them on the ground is good 487 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,480 because you can get them in place, connect them up to the distribution, and then flip them 488 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:40,640 on. 489 00:50:41,380 --> 00:50:46,000 And they leave the old one there and wear it out, get the most you can out of that. 490 00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:48,320 But if it fails, you've got your brand new units. 491 00:50:53,020 --> 00:50:57,300 I think it would require a more elaborate control to have five than to have just the two. 492 00:50:57,300 --> 00:51:03,280 But I do think it's worth it so that you can turn some number of them off in winter. 493 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:04,800 Thank you. 494 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,280 Thank you, Dave. 495 00:51:06,780 --> 00:51:07,280 Welcome. 496 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,200 Ken Dante. 497 00:51:16,780 --> 00:51:17,440 Hello, Ken. 498 00:51:17,620 --> 00:51:18,240 Thank you for coming. 499 00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:28,170 I just wanted to thank you for the opportunity, by the way. 500 00:51:29,890 --> 00:51:37,090 I wanted to talk about my observation when I was part of the Energy Commission and we did 501 00:51:37,090 --> 00:51:44,030 the energy performance contract audit of the Justice Center and we look and we went 502 00:51:44,030 --> 00:51:50,410 through those units and all the damage that that experimental unit has caused to that 503 00:51:50,410 --> 00:52:00,110 building is crazy leaks here and there that that unit needs to go because it's a it's a 504 00:52:00,110 --> 00:52:00,850 major liability. 505 00:52:03,730 --> 00:52:07,250 I'm not going to engineer this thing, but there's a cost of ownership. 506 00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:15,190 We should design the system. The best we can, professional. I think this unit, this 507 00:52:15,930 --> 00:52:23,230 proposal from Train is actually good. It needs to happen soon, because tariffs are going 508 00:52:23,230 --> 00:52:28,930 to start coming into play. If we don't do this and these tariffs are going to be terrible 509 00:52:29,610 --> 00:52:36,650 because a lot of the systems, you know, we've got a global economy. Parts come in from everywhere. 510 00:52:38,410 --> 00:52:46,150 We've got a guarantee from train on the cost. We need to execute. So thank you. Thank you. 511 00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:52,990 And that concludes our public form. We now move into Council Member and Mayor Commentary. Mayor Graham? 512 00:52:52,990 --> 00:52:55,070 I don't have anything, President Aylah. 513 00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:56,710 Thank you, Councillor Latino. 514 00:52:58,190 --> 00:52:59,250 Yes, thank you. 515 00:53:00,750 --> 00:53:04,190 I want to commend the merchants for coming this evening 516 00:53:04,190 --> 00:53:07,810 to speak with regard to the issues that they're dealing with, 517 00:53:08,010 --> 00:53:09,330 which concerns me greatly. 518 00:53:10,250 --> 00:53:12,270 Across the street at the Senate bar and lounge 519 00:53:12,270 --> 00:53:16,310 a $5,000 window on the part of a homeless individual 520 00:53:16,930 --> 00:53:19,650 who was apprehended, taken to jail, 521 00:53:19,790 --> 00:53:22,070 and then released within a certain period of time, 522 00:53:22,070 --> 00:53:33,720 not more than 24 hours. Sad, very sad. On B Street, on B Street alone, vandalism, a bridal shop, 523 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:43,460 a major window, $1,000. On Union again, cigar shop, vandalism, 524 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,180 solar roast, vandalism, 525 00:53:49,180 --> 00:53:52,620 into $2,000 to $1,000, windows. 526 00:53:55,620 --> 00:53:56,900 What are we going to do about this? 527 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,620 What's the police department going to do about this? 528 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,040 What's the city going to do about this? 529 00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:02,460 We need to be creative. 530 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,420 They're doing things in other places, 531 00:54:05,420 --> 00:54:07,080 and we're not doing them in Pueblo, Colorado. 532 00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:11,380 We have young individuals that have purchased 533 00:54:14,060 --> 00:54:16,660 lots in the main street areas, 534 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,800 and they've redeveloped so that we can start bringing 535 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:28,380 of people downtown to Main Street where solar roast is and that same block so we can start 536 00:54:28,380 --> 00:54:32,440 bringing people down and moving people into city and have some vibrancy in the city 537 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,860 and yet we have vandalism and we have the homeless basically taking control. 538 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,840 The other day in my house as an example, I'm looking down the street and there's this guy 539 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,980 with a wheelbarrow, there's a wheelbarrow from my yard. 540 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,280 We passed a no stand, no sit and no line, no tents on the city streets. 541 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:54,760 how effective has it been? It's not going to be effective unless we enforce. And it's 542 00:54:54,760 --> 00:55:00,040 not going to be effective in terms of the vandalism, unless we enforce. Now, if we don't have 543 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,760 enough police officers, maybe we work with the Sheriff's Department. There's supposedly 544 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:10,880 short of few deputies. We collaborate. We work together as a team. Or we do what they're 545 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,340 doing in some other places and go back to what they did back in the day, regarding angels. 546 00:55:15,340 --> 00:55:22,340 You train people that can pass back on clearance, you're giving some training and you ask them to help you with the patrol issues. 547 00:55:23,420 --> 00:55:25,600 They don't have to carry, they don't have to carry. 548 00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:28,840 But we need to be creative and we're not being creative in this city. 549 00:55:29,820 --> 00:55:30,980 And it breaks my heart. 550 00:55:31,820 --> 00:55:36,620 Because I used to be able to walk down the streets at seven o'clock a night after football, basketball or baseball practice. 551 00:55:36,740 --> 00:55:37,800 And you can't do that anymore. 552 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:50,190 You can't even sit in the restaurant and have a cocktail or dinner and you've got to look and you look at a window as an example that we'll use the Senate again and I apologize. 553 00:55:51,450 --> 00:55:53,950 $5,000 and they've got plywood sitting there. 554 00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:56,870 Sad, isn't it sad? 555 00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:06,160 So I'm suggesting that we put a committee together of business people and 556 00:56:08,850 --> 00:56:15,810 we come up with a plan and we present that to the city, to the mayor and to the police chief and to the sheriff's department. 557 00:56:15,810 --> 00:56:16,650 We're 558 00:56:18,990 --> 00:56:22,670 taking back our city folks. That's what we need to do. It's our city. 559 00:56:25,050 --> 00:56:26,210 We need to take it back. 560 00:56:33,550 --> 00:56:40,590 Finally, I want to congratulate Scott Hobson again for his time he served. He was a great individual and a great man to work with. 561 00:56:43,010 --> 00:56:56,570 But we've had two of our council people as an example. I'll give back to the vandalism, business people, two council people, vandalism on the part of the homeless and the derelicts. 562 00:56:56,570 --> 00:56:57,370 So, 563 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,960 again, I'm going to be working with those individuals in my district, the business 564 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,000 people, the merchants, we're going to come up with a plan, we're going to present 565 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,000 the plan, and hopefully we're going to move forward with the plan. 566 00:57:23,620 --> 00:57:31,260 We either do, or we start to take action as it relates to individuals in the positions 567 00:57:31,260 --> 00:57:35,640 they hold in this community and this city and start looking for other individuals to fill 568 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:36,620 those positions. 569 00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:37,760 Thank you. 570 00:57:38,980 --> 00:57:40,060 Thank you, Council. 571 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:41,540 Council Martinez. 572 00:57:43,820 --> 00:57:50,160 You know, for a couple of years now, I've joked that Scott Hobson is the smartest man in the city. 573 00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:57,400 And the reason why I've been saying that is because for years now, when I ask a question, 574 00:57:58,260 --> 00:58:00,560 the answer that I get is, I don't know, let's ask Scott. 575 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:08,080 And then when I ask Scott Hobson that question, I get, you know, a 30 minute answer of 576 00:58:09,580 --> 00:58:21,500 you know, 25 years of history in one answer, and sometimes it's, I mean, honestly, Scott, 577 00:58:21,620 --> 00:58:30,420 it just amazes me by how much, you know, and I think that we are losing so much institutional 578 00:58:30,420 --> 00:58:36,720 and historical knowledge with your retirement, and I really hope that, you know, years down 579 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,960 on the road, someone's gonna be the new smartest man 580 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:47,400 in the city, but know that it's gonna be huge shoes to fill, 581 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,400 because of your retirement. 582 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,280 And I really hope that you have such a great retirement 583 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,700 and never think about the city ever again. 584 00:58:59,540 --> 00:59:01,080 Thank you, Councillor Boston. 585 00:59:01,860 --> 00:59:02,840 Thank you, Mr. President. 586 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,480 Yeah, there's gonna be some big shoes to fill. 587 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:11,320 So I wonder if anybody ever will be able to, maybe there's potential out there for somebody to be able to do that. 588 00:59:13,020 --> 00:59:22,660 But going back to what some of the public commenters mentioned, my heart goes out to you guys when it comes to the crime and the vandalism and everything you guys are dealing with. 589 00:59:23,380 --> 00:59:33,980 I sat in those same chairs in November of 23, complaining about the same things and that's what inspired me to help get involved and try to impact things like that in this city. 590 00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:38,220 It's tough times that we're living in right now and unfortunately 591 00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:49,330 it's an uphill battle. 592 00:59:50,030 --> 00:59:54,730 We are trying to find ways to help combat some of these issues, but in a lot of situations 593 00:59:54,730 --> 00:59:55,770 our hands are tied. 594 00:59:56,550 --> 00:59:59,650 I do agree it does sometimes feel like you're left out there. 595 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:26,480 With no hope, but there is hope. A lot of the issues that I was dealing with were able to get mitigated, but everything takes time. It comes up. You got to come up with creative solutions on how to impact some of these issues affecting us. And I think we're just at another one of those times where we need to put some heads together as Councilman Latino said and try to come up with creative ways that we can help. It's easy to sit there and be upset about something. 596 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:38,200 but until you actually go and see what our officers are dealing with, or what the rules are, and what the city has to do when it comes to blighted properties or boarded up properties. 597 01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:43,960 It seems to be upset until you understand the way that government has to function. 598 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:52,800 If it was easy as just taking people's property and doing what we want with it, I know we would fix a lot of these blighted burnt out properties, but that's not how it works. 599 01:00:53,260 --> 01:01:00,260 If we could round up every troublemaker in town and ship them somewhere else or lock them up for 100 years or you know 600 01:01:00,260 --> 01:01:01,900 I'm sure we would but we can't do that 601 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,780 So I agree with like I said mr. Militino here 602 01:01:05,780 --> 01:01:12,120 We got to we got to get some heads together and try to cope some solutions that are actually viable to help mitigate some of these issues 603 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,300 You know, it's not unique to downtown. It's all across the city and I understand you know 604 01:01:17,300 --> 01:01:19,480 I just had a window broken out about six weeks ago 605 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:29,020 and I'm still waiting on my glass too, so I know how hard it can be, and I know it sucks, and sometimes we just got a power through. 606 01:01:29,660 --> 01:01:34,920 So my heart goes out to you guys, don't lose hope, and we'll find a way to get through this, and that's all I have for tonight. 607 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:37,980 Thank you, Councillor Flaures. 608 01:01:37,980 --> 01:01:50,460 Yes, I wanted to follow up on the recognitions specifically on Eileen Dennis, who I've had the pleasure of serving on several other boards. 609 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,860 I just wanted to congratulate her. 610 01:01:52,920 --> 01:02:04,560 I think she left, but she's really the epitome of people in our community that just have this need to serve the community and provide 611 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:11,240 expertise, and she's a good example of that, so I wanted to congratulate her publicly. 612 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:18,320 And for Scott Hobson, it's been an honor Scott to work with you over the last nine years. 613 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:24,620 This is my ninth year on City Council, and my last year, so I'll be following in your footsteps. 614 01:02:24,620 --> 01:02:32,680 But I want you to know that in my opinion, you are leaving is probably the best director 615 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:42,740 that the city has, and I've worked with many, but I think the reason for that is that you are a gentleman 616 01:02:42,740 --> 01:02:52,160 in the truest sense of the word, and how you interact with people, how you work in a very professional 617 01:02:52,160 --> 01:03:03,120 no matter and most of all your work shows that and you always were timely with anything 618 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:12,440 that had to be done and I just want to congratulate you for your retirement and it's been 619 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:18,380 an honor to work with you for the last nine years and I hope you have a very enjoyable 620 01:03:18,380 --> 01:03:23,820 retirement, so that's all I have but congratulations on your retirement. 621 01:03:24,060 --> 01:03:25,460 Thank you, Councillor Gomes. 622 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:32,740 Yeah, I've just been, you know, for the longest time since I got here, I was trying to 623 01:03:32,740 --> 01:03:39,280 understand how the system worked and very concerned about the fact that we sometimes ignore 624 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,620 that things are right in front of us. 625 01:03:41,220 --> 01:03:46,740 My feeling is we can't move forward together as a body until we start really respecting our 626 01:03:46,740 --> 01:03:50,840 rules of municipal government. What do I mean by that? I mean, to people in this chamber elected officials. 627 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:57,440 I've been stressing the need to abide by the tenets that establish the need for clear separation of the executive branch, 628 01:03:57,700 --> 01:04:02,100 which is the mayor and the administration and the legislative branches, which is the city council. 629 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:08,400 And I have evidence and documentation that I will present next week that visually supports while you cannot 630 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:15,220 not allow the blurring of the lines or the continuing blurring of the lines, or where perspective branches and I'll bring that forward next 631 01:04:15,220 --> 01:04:21,160 next week but I'm very concerned that we're starting the blue side of what our roles are 632 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:26,780 as different distinct bodies of government so that's what I'll leave with you tonight. 633 01:04:26,940 --> 01:04:27,240 Thank you. 634 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,140 Thank you, Councillor Councilor. 635 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:29,540 My string. 636 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,640 Congratulations, Scott, and thank you for your service with the city. 637 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,140 We really appreciate it. 638 01:04:36,980 --> 01:04:45,040 And you will be missed by not just the staff of the city but the community members that work 639 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:54,000 with you in your department. Everybody really seems to be, get their questions answered by calling 640 01:04:54,000 --> 01:05:01,500 your office just like Councillor Martinez has said. To the merchants, thank you, Mr. 641 01:05:01,620 --> 01:05:08,600 Rizalis, for coming up and representing the merchants in this community. We had a discussion. 642 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:19,040 I told Councillor Latino that I would help him create that ordinance where we create 643 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:27,720 some sort of fund for the city, the businesses in this city, and see what we can get 644 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:35,720 to show that we appreciate, oh gosh, if anything, your patience as we try to get through this 645 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:45,200 time where we're just, you know, written with vandalism and crime and, you know, the 646 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:52,480 cities as much as the mayor's out there cleaning it up, it still suffers from being clean. 647 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:59,980 And we can go through here on this dius and try to put as many ordinances in to protect 648 01:05:59,980 --> 01:06:07,960 this community, you know, the law enforcement has some challenges with the amount of officers. 649 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:18,880 I'm not really with creating or for creating the city being tied to creating a security system 650 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:25,280 in addition to that because I don't know what type of liability we would be taking on endorsing such a thing. 651 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,900 But, you know, I guess that's just something that's going to have to be looked into. 652 01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,160 Times just seem to really be really tough right now. 653 01:06:40,740 --> 01:06:45,480 And I think as it goes on, it's not getting any better. 654 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:52,580 And I had a couple of business owners call me this week and talk about this being their 655 01:06:52,580 --> 01:07:00,780 last tour of season of being in business in this community and it seems like 656 01:07:00,780 --> 01:07:05,740 people are hopeless about their futures in this community and they look to 657 01:07:05,740 --> 01:07:12,640 other places to want to spend their next years trying to live in a better 658 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:17,920 safer cleaner community and their and their and their and their their 659 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:23,220 the Portland's born and raised here, but they're just throwing their hands up in the air. 660 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:25,420 And, you 661 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:34,100 know, we just continue to move forward and try to do the best that we could do 662 01:07:34,610 --> 01:07:41,540 by putting some things in place here when it comes to ordinances and laws in this community. 663 01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:45,760 And I don't know what we're going to do about the enforcement. 664 01:07:46,300 --> 01:07:48,120 It's been hard to recruit. 665 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:54,420 and you know council doesn't run that department council has people come to 666 01:07:54,420 --> 01:07:59,320 council all the time and complain about the crime and the safety and this and 667 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:06,160 that and we really have no authority over the police department or anything 668 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,620 that has to do with the administrative part of the government here we could 669 01:08:10,620 --> 01:08:20,440 It's a just, but it's within the administrators authority to see how things move forward. 670 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:30,580 And we all have suffered one thing or another in this community, and I understand everybody's 671 01:08:30,580 --> 01:08:42,520 getting tired. So we just keep moving on, moving forward. Thank you for coming and letting 672 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:49,660 us know. Thank you, Councillor. Mr. Hobson, as I was contemplating your retirement and 673 01:08:49,660 --> 01:08:56,600 contemplating this great day of recognizing Scott Hobson day, I thought, what will I miss 674 01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:04,320 most about Scott Hobson, and I can tell you right now, it will not be the same in council 675 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:10,060 chambers when it comes to quasi-judicial hearings and all of your planning and zoning presentations. 676 01:09:10,620 --> 01:09:17,760 I don't think that it will ever get as thorough and as concise as that, and especially 677 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:18,540 as exciting. 678 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,260 They were very, very exciting, and I appreciate you for that. 679 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:34,740 Seriously though, I've worked with Scott on several things that I had concerns with and 680 01:09:34,740 --> 01:09:35,780 I can tell you this. 681 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:41,320 I have never gone to Scott Hobson where he didn't say, I'll help you, I'll do it. 682 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,840 And then he took care of it, never ever once. 683 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,740 When Scott says, I'll get back to you, he got back to you. 684 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,340 When Scott says, I'm going to take care of it, he took care of it. 685 01:09:52,340 --> 01:10:05,160 And I appreciate you for that and I appreciate all the help that you've given me over the six years that I've been on City Council, and I personally will miss you tremendously. 686 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:19,440 So thank you, Scott, you know, I work for a business that's downtown, our business has lost over $200,000 over the last two years in theft, 687 01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:25,820 Vandalism, broken windows, broken vandalized cars, stolen cars, 688 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:31,740 drilled out gas tanks, stolen catalytic converters, it just never, ever ends. 689 01:10:34,660 --> 01:10:40,320 And so I have the unique perspective, much like Councillor Boston, of being intimately 690 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:47,040 involved with how these businesses are struggling with what's happening. 691 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:55,400 And quite frankly, we're at a point now where it's critical mass, something has to change. 692 01:10:55,580 --> 01:11:01,520 If it doesn't change, then we're just going to be talking about this endlessly. 693 01:11:01,740 --> 01:11:03,920 It'll be like Groundhog Day. 694 01:11:04,220 --> 01:11:08,380 Every time you come to a city council meeting, there's going to be business owners and people 695 01:11:08,380 --> 01:11:11,140 within the community that come up and say, we got to do something. 696 01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:12,480 We got to do something. 697 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:13,660 We got to do something. 698 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:20,980 We can come up with all the ideas in the world if they're not implemented or they don't 699 01:11:20,980 --> 01:11:26,860 fit the parameters of what people think that what the administration thinks should be 700 01:11:26,860 --> 01:11:27,100 done. 701 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:29,940 I mean, it's not going to change. 702 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:31,500 I'm a car salesman. 703 01:11:31,740 --> 01:11:34,000 I don't know anything about fighting crime. 704 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:40,220 I don't know anything about how to stop vandalism and people stealing my stuff and breaking my 705 01:11:40,220 --> 01:11:41,660 windows and things like that. 706 01:11:41,660 --> 01:11:44,580 but we have experts that know how to fix that. 707 01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,440 And it's time that our experts fixed it 708 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:52,140 and came up with a plan to bring to the community 709 01:11:52,140 --> 01:11:55,420 other than fortifying our downtown, 710 01:11:55,980 --> 01:11:57,240 fortifying our businesses. 711 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:04,680 I mean, it's kind of crazy that at a car dealership, 712 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,420 we need to put in a 24 foot razor wire fence 713 01:12:08,420 --> 01:12:18,120 and have a gun to it, and buzz people in to protect our business, that's just not feasible. 714 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:24,820 And I can understand why people who are throwing their hands up in the air and especially small businesses, 715 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:35,520 small businesses where $1,500 here, $2,000 there literally puts you in a horrible position 716 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,300 for the remainder of the year and to stay in business. 717 01:12:42,060 --> 01:12:46,300 When something happens where I work, my boss yells at me. 718 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,660 He doesn't call the mayor. 719 01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,840 He doesn't call the police chief or any police chief. 720 01:12:53,300 --> 01:12:54,400 He just yells at me. 721 01:12:54,660 --> 01:13:00,200 And then I make the phone calls and I try and get something to happen, but I'm as frustrated 722 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:05,380 as anybody sitting in the room or anybody that's having the same experiences. 723 01:13:06,260 --> 01:13:24,640 I like the ideas of the committee, I like the ideas of maybe compensation for crime if I mean if we're not going to stop it, I mean it's crazy we're even talking like this, you know, we're not going to stop it or if it's still going to continue and things like that. 724 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:29,900 But it's beyond comprehension what's happening. 725 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:40,700 City Council just recently passed a very strong loitering law that says that to give 726 01:13:40,700 --> 01:13:45,500 the police department more leeway to do things. 727 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:52,680 And I swear since we adopted it, there's more people laying in the street, more people 728 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:59,500 campaign out, then I've ever seen. And the last thing I want to say about that is, is 729 01:13:59,500 --> 01:14:05,400 that all of the times that we've caught people on tape vandalizing our business or stealing, 730 01:14:05,780 --> 01:14:14,770 they weren't homeless. I can promise you that. These were a effort 731 01:14:16,910 --> 01:14:19,030 that was very well planned 732 01:14:19,030 --> 01:14:24,110 out and taken care of it just wasn't random violence or anything or random 733 01:14:26,190 --> 01:14:32,930 vandalism. So I just cautioned everybody to quit blaming absolutely everything 734 01:14:32,930 --> 01:14:36,550 that happens on the homeless because it's not everything that happened doesn't 735 01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:44,230 happen just because of the homeless. And I'll close with the agenda, Mr. 736 01:14:44,230 --> 01:14:49,910 Patoli asked about the agenda. The agenda for the Monday night meetings is always posted 737 01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:57,030 on Thursdays. The work session is posted on Friday. So on Thursdays, you get the agenda 738 01:14:57,030 --> 01:14:59,770 as posted she had mentioned that it came out on Fridays. 739 01:15:02,660 --> 01:15:09,160 and with that, we'll move to the review of the agenda. Counselors, page 1, 740 01:15:12,190 --> 01:15:13,250 page 2. 741 01:15:15,540 --> 01:15:15,960 President 742 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:23,940 Eiliff, can we move M4 to the regular agenda? Thank you. Mr. Clerk, do you have a page 743 01:15:26,570 --> 01:15:27,050 3, 744 01:15:30,580 --> 01:15:31,200 page 745 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:31,700 page four. 746 01:15:32,900 --> 01:15:39,380 President A. L. S. Staff request that we pull N14 and continue to the July 28th meeting. 747 01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:41,840 July 20th. 748 01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:43,360 28th. 749 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:43,600 28th. 750 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:46,640 Mr. Clerk, do you have that? 751 01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:47,100 Yes, sir? 752 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:49,680 Page five. 753 01:15:53,950 --> 01:15:54,910 N. Page six. 754 01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:58,540 All right. 755 01:15:58,780 --> 01:16:00,320 Should we have an approval of the agenda? 756 01:16:00,620 --> 01:16:05,200 Mr. President, I make a motion to amend the agenda, moving item N4 to the regular agenda 757 01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:11,480 and post-poning item N-14 to the July 28th, 2025 meeting and approved agenda as amended. 758 01:16:11,820 --> 01:16:17,260 Thank you, Councillor Boston. Is there a second? Second by Councillor Gomez. Any questions? 759 01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:19,080 Let's call for the vote. 760 01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,220 It does nothing on mine. 761 01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:58,720 They're supposed to both be black. 762 01:16:59,380 --> 01:17:01,920 They're black now and after you do your initial position. 763 01:17:02,380 --> 01:17:03,660 Still change your vote until I stop. 764 01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:05,140 I still have one question. 765 01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:07,720 I still have one person passing out. 766 01:17:08,060 --> 01:17:09,800 Whoever's yesterday was not black now. 767 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:10,680 It's not for the people. 768 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:12,480 My screen is black. 769 01:17:18,670 --> 01:17:19,490 We'll do it. 770 01:17:20,210 --> 01:17:21,450 We'll get a rerun in the vote. 771 01:17:29,690 --> 01:17:30,350 Vote again. 772 01:17:35,770 --> 01:17:37,710 It passes 7-0. 773 01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:41,450 We now move to the reading and approval of the menace. 774 01:17:42,710 --> 01:17:43,670 Do we have a motion? 775 01:17:44,470 --> 01:17:50,810 Mr. President, I make a motion to dispense with the reading and approve the menace of the regular meeting day to June 23, 2025, as distributed. 776 01:17:51,230 --> 01:17:51,610 Second. 777 01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:52,230 Second. 778 01:17:54,210 --> 01:17:55,090 Councillor Flores. 779 01:17:56,270 --> 01:17:56,870 Any questions? 780 01:17:57,530 --> 01:17:58,250 It's called for the vote. 781 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,660 Pass at 7-0. 782 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:15,260 Mr. Clerk, we now move into the consent agenda section L. Communications, there are none. 783 01:18:15,260 --> 01:18:19,020 We move to Section M, Resolution Item M1. 784 01:18:19,620 --> 01:18:29,000 M1, a resolution ratifying the ward of an emergency construction contract in the amount of $306,660,000, $47.32,000, to rest grading and excavating LLC, 785 01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:36,560 a Colorado limited liability company for project number 25-012 parentheses, SWAN-03, 786 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:43,200 three-princi for emergency storm sewer point repair on West 12th Street and Elizabeth Street and approving a change order in the amount of 787 01:18:43,820 --> 01:18:52,760 256,263 dollars, 10 cents for additional work and materials and authorizing that, proving the purchasing agents' execution of the same. 788 01:18:53,260 --> 01:19:01,160 And to a resolution transferring funds of the amount of 371,417 dollars, 50 cents to HUA and 0-1 789 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:02,680 street 790 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:13,940 resurfacing to account project HU-503 in awarding a construction contract in the amount of $321,417.50 of J. Belchromo and 791 01:19:13,940 --> 01:19:22,480 Sun's ETH for project number 25-0, 62 asphalt improvements at Lexington Road and Saratoga Road, setting for $50,000 for 792 01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:25,260 contingencies and authorizing the purchasing age index you have seen. 793 01:19:25,260 --> 01:19:54,780 M3, a resolution ratifying an emergency construction contract in the amount of $205,511.90 with Parker excavating E for emergency sanitary sewer point repair at 2721 Pine Street Project number 24-0333WAN03 and approving and purchasing agent execution of the same M5, a resolution ratifying emergency construction contract and amendment number one in the amount of $87,765.63. 794 01:19:54,780 --> 01:20:00,740 since, with Parker Eston fading ink, for emergency sanitary sewer point repair at 701 795 01:20:00,740 --> 01:20:06,140 Juliet Avenue Project number 24-033 WAN033 and approving the purchasing 796 01:20:06,140 --> 01:20:10,480 agent execution of the same M6, a resolution ratifying emergency construction 797 01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:15,660 contract in the amount of $9,890 with Miller pipeline LSD for emergency 798 01:20:15,660 --> 01:20:23,000 sanitary sewer point repair 314 and 412 East Mesa Avenue project number 24-033 799 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:28,520 Purchasing Agency, WW-A-N-03, PNC, and approving the purchasing agency execution of the same. 800 01:20:28,780 --> 01:20:39,340 M7, a resolution ratifying an emergency construction contract in the amount of $6,500, $407 cents with Miller Pipeline, LSE for emergency sanitary point repair at 908. 801 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:48,240 Jones Avenue project number 24-0333, PNC, WW-A-N03, PNC, and approving the purchasing agency execution the same. 802 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:54,080 And they had a resolution transferring funds of amount of $16,933 from a count project, 803 01:20:54,280 --> 01:21:00,900 HUA and 01, street resurfacing to a count project, HU-2504, concrete improvements, 804 01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:06,900 lake view and cartaret, and awarding a construction contract in the amount of $14,733 805 01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:11,860 to wicked outlaw construction for project number 25-064, concrete improvements, 806 01:21:12,300 --> 01:21:16,580 lake avenue and cartaret avenue, setting for $2,200 for contingencies and 807 01:21:16,580 --> 01:21:18,620 by authorizing the purchasing agent to execute the same. 808 01:21:19,020 --> 01:21:23,780 M9, a resolution ratifying the joint appointment of Heather Hawkins to the Board of Health. 809 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:30,440 M10, a resolution appointing Councillor Bret Boston to the Pueblo Economic Development Corporation Board of Directors. 810 01:21:30,860 --> 01:21:34,380 M11, a resolution authorizing the issuance of a vocable permit. 811 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:43,000 Rev 25-11 to grassroots, gravel, LTD for the use of the Ellen Hamill Avenue between North Union and Main Street. 812 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:48,780 On Friday, October 10th, 2025 through Saturday, October 11th, 2025, 813 01:21:50,940 --> 01:22:07,280 Main Street Southbound lanes from city center drive to Allen Hamill Avenue on October 11th, 2025 in the city parking lot at Allen Hamill Avenue and Main Street from Thursday, October 9th, 2025 to October 11th, 2025 to host the 2025 Gravel Roots Fight School event next poll. 814 01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:19,880 M-12, a resolution directing the public urban renewal authority to conduct a condition survey on properties under wild horse annexation one and wild horse annexation two and to report findings and 815 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:35,840 recommendation and recommendations to the mayor and city council and when an ordinance approving accepting airport improvement program, AIP grant agreement number three dash zero three dash zero four six dash zero five three dash zero two zero two five from the United States of America acting through 816 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:40,920 the Federal Aviation Administration, the funds of the amount of $692,237 for 817 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:45,720 cost related to the rehabilitation East Aperin North Phase II construction at 818 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:51,180 the Plubble Memorial Airport, budgeting and appropriating $692,237 the project number, 819 01:22:51,460 --> 01:22:57,020 AP 2401 East Aperin North taxi lane rehab and authorize the mayor to execute the same. 820 01:22:57,380 --> 01:23:01,800 And two, in ordinance approving and accepting award letter and acceptable conditions, 821 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,260 pertaining to, there too, with the Colorado Department of Human Services, 822 01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:13,280 behavior, health, administration, the amount of $301,000 from July 1st, 2025 through June 30th, 2026, 823 01:23:13,460 --> 01:23:16,560 establishing project PS-2509 and budgeting and 824 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:22,540 approving funds to project number PS-2509, authorize the mayor to execute same. 825 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:28,360 And three, in order to approving accepting of grant from the Colorado Department of Local Affairs in the amount of $100,000 826 01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:33,520 to provide homeowner rehabilitation, authorizing the mayor to sign the grant agreement, 827 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:40,980 establishing project HS-2505 and budgeting appropriate, and $100,000 to project number HS-2505. 828 01:23:41,220 --> 01:23:49,780 And for an ordinance transferring, budgeting, appropriating insurance proceeds in the amount of $64,879, $57,000 in the capital project, 829 01:23:49,780 --> 01:23:59,080 the CIA and 22 maintenance and repair awarding construction contracts in the amount of $56,000 through $179.57 830 01:23:59,480 --> 01:24:08,460 since the monument roof of Colorado, a tech, tech to a America company LLC for project number 25-052 831 01:24:08,460 --> 01:24:14,380 roof repairs, various city buildings east of I-25 authorizing and purchasing agent decks you'd say. 832 01:24:14,380 --> 01:24:21,040 In five in ordinance transferring, budgeting, appropriating insurance proceeds in the amount of $34,331. 833 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:30,000 17 cents into capital projects, CI, AN-22, roof maintenance and repairs awarding construction contract in the amount of $29,831. 834 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:41,940 17 cents to monument roof of Colorado, a tech to America company LLC for project 25-051, roof repairs various city buildings west of I-25 and 835 01:24:41,940 --> 01:24:44,920 and authorize the purchasing agent to execute the same. 836 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:50,680 N6, in order to establish the machine, the 2026 Plubble Rule Transpersion Project, 837 01:24:51,060 --> 01:24:53,980 planning project, TP-2501, and budgeting and 838 01:24:53,980 --> 01:24:57,000 appropriating funds in the amount of $12,000 for SED project. 839 01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:00,560 N7, in order to amend section 17-4-44, 840 01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:08,840 parenthesis H of chapter 4 of Title 14 of the Plubble Municipal Code relating to minimum distance between driveway access and intersections. 841 01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:24,420 N-8, an ordinance amending section 17-2-2, 17-4-23, and 17-4-51, and adding 17-4-16 to Title 14 of the Plum of Municipal Code relating to accessory dwelling units. 842 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:33,380 N-9, an ordinance amending zoning restrictions to rezone 1.24 acres located at the Northwest corner of the intersection at Ridge Drive and Eagle Ridge Boulevard, 843 01:25:33,380 --> 01:25:42,160 a lot one and two, block 24, Eagle Registration States from R2, single family, resident zone district to be two sub-regional business zone districts. 844 01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:58,500 In tenant, ordinance approving a public highway overpass agreement between Union Pacific Railroad, a Delaware company in the city of Pueblo, Colorado Municipal Corporation, relating to the construction of the existing grade separated overpass over Union Pacific Railroad track and property, 845 01:25:58,500 --> 01:26:04,480 Mill, Harmon, Drive, Dylan Drive, and authorizing an execution, therefore, by the mayor. 846 01:26:04,860 --> 01:26:09,960 N-11, an ordinance approving amendment number one to the revocable permit for private network, master 847 01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:16,280 fire, fiber, I-R-U, conveyance, and conducting share agreement between the City of Plebble, 848 01:26:16,820 --> 01:26:20,520 Colorado, Missile Corporation, and CCOM Inc, a Colorado Corporation, and 849 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:21,880 authorizing the mayor to execute the same. 850 01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:25,100 N-12, an ordinance approving accepting a grant agreement, and 851 01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:34,040 an applicable conditions pertaining their to the State of Colorado Department of Law, Peace, Officer, Standard, and Training Post establishing Project PS-2506, 852 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:41,020 budgeting and appropriating funds for Project PS-2506, authorizing the mayor to execute the same and ratifying her signature there to. 853 01:26:41,260 --> 01:26:47,840 N-13, an ordinance of mending ordinance number 10943 to correct an error in identification of the purchase order and set agreement. 854 01:26:47,840 --> 01:27:17,540 in set ordinance and 15 in ordinance amending appropriations and compelling previous amendments to the general fund special revenue funds, enterprise funds internal service funds, debt service funds and capital project funds for the physical year 2024 and mending the budget for the year of 2024 and 16 in ordinance calling a regular municipal election to be held November 4th 2025 directing that the regular municipal action be conducted as part of the coordinated election adopting for use at the regular election meeting 855 01:27:17,540 --> 01:27:23,120 in the requirements and procedures of uniform election code of 1992, except to extend 856 01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:28,580 the uniform election code of 1992 conflicts with specific provisions of the charter 857 01:27:28,580 --> 01:27:33,020 of the city of Pueblo and suspending for such purposes the Pueblo election code 858 01:27:33,020 --> 01:27:36,700 and all ordinances and resolutions of the city in conflict therewith. 859 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:38,440 Thank you, Mr. Clerk. 860 01:27:38,740 --> 01:27:40,180 Is there a approval of the consent agenda? 861 01:27:40,580 --> 01:27:44,380 Mr. President, I move to approve all resolutions set forth in the consent agenda, 862 01:27:44,380 --> 01:27:46,140 the past the ordinances of the consent agenda, 863 01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:48,760 sitting the public hearings for July 28th, 2025, 864 01:27:48,940 --> 01:27:51,240 in order to the ordinances to be published by title. 865 01:27:51,980 --> 01:27:53,140 Thank you, is there a second? 866 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:53,500 Second. 867 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:54,680 Councillor Latino. 868 01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:56,280 Any questions? 869 01:28:00,470 --> 01:28:01,250 Let's call for the vote. 870 01:28:41,180 --> 01:28:43,780 Mr. Clerk, let's go to a voice vote. 871 01:28:46,580 --> 01:28:47,260 Mark A. Leff? 872 01:28:47,420 --> 01:28:47,540 Yes. 873 01:28:47,820 --> 01:28:48,320 Brett Boston? 874 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:48,580 Yes. 875 01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:49,200 Dennis Flores? 876 01:28:49,580 --> 01:28:49,720 Yes. 877 01:28:49,780 --> 01:28:50,260 Roger Gomez? 878 01:28:50,620 --> 01:28:50,800 Yes. 879 01:28:50,860 --> 01:28:51,360 Joe Latino? 880 01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:51,800 Yes. 881 01:28:51,900 --> 01:28:52,660 Regina Maistrie? 882 01:28:53,220 --> 01:28:53,420 Yes. 883 01:28:53,420 --> 01:28:54,240 Yes, sir Martinez. 884 01:28:55,940 --> 01:28:57,060 Passes unanimously. 885 01:28:57,500 --> 01:29:01,940 We now move to the regular agenda, Mr. Clerk, item M4. 886 01:29:03,740 --> 01:29:04,260 Excuse me. 887 01:29:06,730 --> 01:29:13,030 M4 resolution authorizing the reallocation of $227,956 from Project No. 888 01:29:13,690 --> 01:29:18,450 CI2113, American Rescue Plan Act Information Technology Railroad permits to the 889 01:29:18,450 --> 01:29:22,370 installation of fiber optic cable network and infrastructure for the video surveillance 890 01:29:22,370 --> 01:29:25,870 equipment in the parks and authorized by the section 603, 891 01:29:25,870 --> 01:29:31,250 Prince C.A. of the American Rescue Plan Act and U.S. Treasury Final Rule 31 CFR-35. 892 01:29:32,150 --> 01:29:33,830 Thank you, Mr. Clerk. We have a staff report. 893 01:29:35,150 --> 01:29:38,650 Hi, I have a staff report. This is Laurie. I'm over here on Zoom. 894 01:29:40,970 --> 01:29:49,350 This resolution is related to funding that came from Fire Station 11 in the public 895 01:29:49,350 --> 01:29:55,110 county jail project which you approved back in August of last year. This was a joint 896 01:29:55,610 --> 01:29:59,870 between the city and county to pull in a redundant route from the. 897 01:30:10,700 --> 01:30:19,760 We're going to be able to install the route from public county jail to the Thatcher Boulevard. 898 01:30:20,480 --> 01:30:28,120 We ran into some issues with the construction and the requirements of C.Dott and in order to 899 01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:35,000 action from the jails of Thatcher, the cost became cost prohibitive and the county decided 900 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:40,120 not to move forward with that secondary route. Because they didn't move forward with 901 01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:45,520 that secondary route, we no longer needed the railroad permitting that was slated out 902 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:51,000 of those ARPA funds. So I asked the mayor if it would be our rad if I reallocated those 903 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:56,240 funds to surveillance in the park so that we could complete the video surveillance and 904 01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,740 and extend some of the connectivity in the parks 905 01:30:58,740 --> 01:31:02,980 and be able to meet the budgetary requirements 906 01:31:02,980 --> 01:31:04,180 of that project. 907 01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:08,300 And this resolution is reallocating those funds 908 01:31:08,300 --> 01:31:09,460 from the railroad permitting 909 01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,000 to the video surveillance in the parks. 910 01:31:12,700 --> 01:31:14,260 And that is my staff report. 911 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:16,380 Thank you for that report. 912 01:31:16,540 --> 01:31:17,580 Is there a motion to approve? 913 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:18,240 Motion to approve. 914 01:31:18,900 --> 01:31:20,680 Councillor Boston, is there a second? 915 01:31:20,700 --> 01:31:21,060 Second. 916 01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:22,280 Councillor Latino. 917 01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,040 Councillor Meister, you pulled this. 918 01:31:24,740 --> 01:31:33,980 I just wanted the clarification. I am the one that asked for cameras in the park, but how many parks are will we be getting will this be serving? 919 01:31:34,860 --> 01:31:43,740 We will be serving five parks. We will be serving Miniqua, Ray Aguilera, Mitchell, City Park, and Mineral Palace Park. 920 01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,940 And that's, but it's just the fiber optics, right, Lori? 921 01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:49,660 It's not the best. 922 01:31:49,660 --> 01:31:51,540 This is just for the fiber optics. 923 01:31:51,540 --> 01:31:58,000 This allows us to expand some cameras into the pickleball area 924 01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:02,340 of mineral palace, and then also down to try to catch some of the waterpark area 925 01:32:02,340 --> 01:32:07,020 and that back baseball field coming off of a city park. 926 01:32:07,340 --> 01:32:13,100 I don't know the name of that field, but it's that that one that sits right off the bridge there 927 01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:15,560 of the Arkansas. Is there any 928 01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:20,320 conversations in the future about some of the neighborhood parks besides just 929 01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:25,360 Mitchell and Ray Aguilera because we have several neighborhood parks that you 930 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:32,800 know there's some shenanigans that go on after hours. We've not had any current 931 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:37,600 discussions about other parts being able to be done with any funding that's 932 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:42,400 available. We can always do parks. This funding becomes available and get that 933 01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:46,220 the design and install? Okay, thank you. 934 01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:47,420 Any other questions? 935 01:32:49,220 --> 01:32:50,460 It's call for the vote. 936 01:33:01,660 --> 01:33:05,580 Mr. Clerk, voice vote. 937 01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:06,460 Mark Elif? 938 01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:08,360 Yes. Brett Boston? 939 01:33:08,500 --> 01:33:08,720 Yes. 940 01:33:09,260 --> 01:33:10,060 Dennis Flores? Yes. 941 01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:11,240 Roger Gomez? Yes. 942 01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:12,280 Joel Latino? Yes. 943 01:33:12,440 --> 01:33:13,660 Regina Meisteri? Yes. 944 01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:15,440 Sarah Martinez? Yes. 945 01:33:16,440 --> 01:33:17,840 Pass of 7-0. 946 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,460 Mr. Clerk, we now move into a section Q. 947 01:33:20,620 --> 01:33:22,280 Resolution, item Q-1. 948 01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:29,440 And Q on a resolution, designated the trail around Lake Miniqua in Miniqua Park as Hopson Trail. 949 01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:31,600 Thank you, Mr. Clerk. 950 01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:32,580 We have a staff report. 951 01:33:33,900 --> 01:33:37,360 Mr. President, members of Council meeting, we feel permit a bit of latitude. 952 01:33:37,580 --> 01:33:45,640 We have another presentation to honor Mr. Hopson's service to the city to bed of a lighthearted presentation there for good being over the latitude. 953 01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,860 Tonight we're gathered not only to debate, to not debate utility rates or 954 01:33:50,860 --> 01:33:54,820 wrestle over road budgets but to do something far more rare to celebrate a 955 01:33:54,820 --> 01:33:59,740 public living legend. The residential for you official names to trail around 956 01:33:59,740 --> 01:34:04,500 Lake Miniqua, the Hobbson Trail, in honor of Scott Hobbson, who after 4 957 01:34:04,500 --> 01:34:10,980 million years of full-time public service is fine inventory. Probably unless he 958 01:34:10,980 --> 01:34:17,180 gets bored. Now why a trail? Because the wrong statue felt too expensive, around 959 01:34:17,180 --> 01:34:21,380 about would be cruel and quite frankly Scott may be the only person in 960 01:34:21,380 --> 01:34:25,460 Pueblo who actually knows where this trail came from, how it got funded, and who 961 01:34:25,460 --> 01:34:26,720 signed off on the master plan. 962 01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:32,340 Lakeland Park exists today thanks in large part to Scott before the trail was 963 01:34:32,340 --> 01:34:36,960 there and had potential and a lot of weeds and possibly some fertile shopping 964 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:37,360 carts. 965 01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:42,380 But Scott had a vision, he assembled the plans, chased down the grants, and thought 966 01:34:42,380 --> 01:34:44,980 to maintain, to simply develop in the park, become a reality. 967 01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:50,180 But let's be honest, the main reason we're naming this trail up for Scott is 968 01:34:50,180 --> 01:34:54,080 because he already knows everything about it. In fact, he knows everything about 969 01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:58,060 everything. Anyone who knows Scott knows he's not just a platter. 970 01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:01,200 Scott is a walk-in, talking, municipal archive. 971 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:06,160 Councilor Wichita said earlier, whenever someone has a question, everyone's natural 972 01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:10,500 instinct is simply to ask Scott. You can say to him, hey Scott, 973 01:35:10,500 --> 01:35:14,400 what happened to that alley vacation request from 1998 in a high-volt hardware store, 974 01:35:14,620 --> 01:35:19,240 and he responded very quickly. It was denied on July 14th due to an unresolved 975 01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:24,180 detail to use it. The gas company had concerns about a very transformer. Also, the human 976 01:35:24,180 --> 01:35:28,200 room AC was broken and the applicant wore a bow tie to the PNZ meeting. 977 01:35:29,540 --> 01:35:34,720 It's not whoever experiences a serious emergency. The official disaster recovery plan should be just 978 01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:42,280 call Scott and hope he picks up. And that is the best. The best. Scott wears the best the way 979 01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:48,640 Batman wears utility belt. Functional, iconic, and flatly intimidating. If the temperature drops 980 01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:52,040 below 16, you can bet he's suited up like he's leading a denaliere expedition. 981 01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:55,780 Not my proudest 982 01:35:55,780 --> 01:36:00,960 moment. For Scott and I actually showed up dressed exactly alike. Matching his best, matching flags, 983 01:36:01,500 --> 01:36:06,080 matching. I'm too busy for this meeting, facial expressions. The city's public affairs director 984 01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:07,460 If you're opposed to the photo and ask the public, 985 01:36:07,700 --> 01:36:08,680 how are we going to do it better? 986 01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,380 And the public chose Scott, not by a little, 987 01:36:12,500 --> 01:36:13,260 but by a landslide. 988 01:36:14,380 --> 01:36:15,300 Democracy can be cruel. 989 01:36:17,940 --> 01:36:19,960 So yes, we are naming the Hopper Trail in his honor 990 01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,280 because it is the path he literally helped build. 991 01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,220 The park he brought to life and a lasting symbol 992 01:36:25,220 --> 01:36:26,880 of his legendary service here in Portland. 993 01:36:27,780 --> 01:36:29,660 So this way, when someone in 2035 994 01:36:29,660 --> 01:36:31,740 needs to know where the irrigation control box is buried, 995 01:36:31,940 --> 01:36:32,640 knew that picnic shelter. 996 01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:34,500 They'll look at that trail sign and know 997 01:36:35,060 --> 01:36:36,040 we had a guy for that. 998 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:37,620 Thank you, Scott. 999 01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:39,900 Thank you for all the staff. 1000 01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:42,940 May your retirement be full of peace, relaxation, 1001 01:36:43,500 --> 01:36:45,600 and meet with people finally for getting your phone number. 1002 01:36:46,380 --> 01:36:49,220 And council, please vote yes before it changes his mind, 1003 01:36:49,440 --> 01:36:51,480 and write some stuff in the next year's staffing plan. 1004 01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,120 Thank you for your indulgence, 1005 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:55,520 and that concludes my staff report. 1006 01:36:57,180 --> 01:36:58,440 Thank you for that report. 1007 01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:00,220 Is there a motion to approve? 1008 01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:00,760 Motion to approve. 1009 01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:01,560 Count seconds. 1010 01:37:02,260 --> 01:37:02,380 Second. 1011 01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,960 I have a question. 1012 01:37:05,900 --> 01:37:09,860 Councilor Boston. Please don't tell me you wasted your time making that sign and that's 1013 01:37:09,860 --> 01:37:14,640 going to be the real sign. No, that's not the sign. That's a photo of the sign. We're 1014 01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:19,040 going to have some signs out there. We'll label it as Hubsan Trail, but this was certainly 1015 01:37:19,620 --> 01:37:24,540 there to commemorate Mr. Hubsan's wearing of his vest. So I think we should amend this to 1016 01:37:24,540 --> 01:37:25,780 make that this actual sign. 1017 01:37:29,070 --> 01:37:32,810 Anybody else that's called for the vote? Mark A. 1018 01:37:33,390 --> 01:37:37,130 Yes, Brett Boston, Dennis Flores, Roger Gomez, 1019 01:37:37,390 --> 01:37:41,110 Joe Latino, Regina Mystery, Sarah Martinez. 1020 01:37:41,330 --> 01:37:41,430 Yes. 1021 01:37:42,210 --> 01:37:46,170 Pass of 7-0, Mr. Clerk, let's do Q2. 1022 01:37:52,390 --> 01:37:57,790 Q2, a resolution confirming the appointment of Kurt Patrick to the position of Director of Stormwater. 1023 01:37:59,650 --> 01:38:02,350 Thank you, Mr. Clerk, we have a staff report, Mr. Gifford. 1024 01:38:02,610 --> 01:38:04,310 Yes, Mr. President, members of the Council, Madam Mayor. 1025 01:38:04,670 --> 01:38:07,930 Before you, tonight is a resolution which will appoint Kurt Patrick, 1026 01:38:07,930 --> 01:38:13,630 a resolution which will confirm the appointment of Mr. Kirkpatrick to the position of Director of Stormwater. 1027 01:38:14,250 --> 01:38:18,090 If you have any questions regarding the confirmation process, I would be more than happy to answer. 1028 01:38:18,950 --> 01:38:19,250 Thank you. 1029 01:38:19,570 --> 01:38:22,310 Thank you for that report. Is there a motion to approve? 1030 01:38:22,610 --> 01:38:23,190 Motion to approve. 1031 01:38:23,350 --> 01:38:24,810 Councillor Boston. Is there a second? 1032 01:38:25,130 --> 01:38:25,430 Second. 1033 01:38:25,830 --> 01:38:26,610 Councillor Gomez. 1034 01:38:26,930 --> 01:38:27,270 Questions? 1035 01:38:28,790 --> 01:38:29,870 It's called for the vote? 1036 01:38:35,490 --> 01:38:35,770 Yes. 1037 01:38:36,170 --> 01:38:36,830 Councillor Boston. 1038 01:38:36,970 --> 01:38:37,150 Yes. 1039 01:38:38,230 --> 01:38:39,010 Councillor Gomez? 1040 01:38:39,390 --> 01:38:39,590 Yes. 1041 01:38:39,590 --> 01:38:39,810 Yes. 1042 01:38:40,310 --> 01:38:40,750 Yes. 1043 01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:44,420 Regina Mystery. 1044 01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:45,120 Yes. 1045 01:38:45,660 --> 01:38:46,440 Sarah Martinez. 1046 01:38:46,660 --> 01:38:46,780 Yes. 1047 01:38:48,100 --> 01:38:49,460 Pass a 7-0. 1048 01:38:49,820 --> 01:38:51,780 Mr. Clerk, we move to Q3. 1049 01:38:52,060 --> 01:38:57,940 Q3, a resolution confirming the appointment of Melissa Cook to the position of Director of Housing and Citizen Services. 1050 01:39:00,420 --> 01:39:01,420 Thank you, Mr. Clerk. 1051 01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:02,220 We have a staff report. 1052 01:39:02,420 --> 01:39:02,840 Mr. Gaffer. 1053 01:39:03,060 --> 01:39:04,280 Yes, Mr. President and members of the council. 1054 01:39:05,060 --> 01:39:10,920 The mayor is appointed Melissa Cook to the position of Director of Housing and Citizen Services, so to the code and charter. 1055 01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:16,560 The confirmation now comes before council. I'm happy to answer any questions that concludes my report. Thank you for that report 1056 01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:21,460 Is there a motion to approve motion to approve councilor Boston is there a second second? 1057 01:39:22,180 --> 01:39:29,840 Councilor Foreas questions. I had a comment. Sure. I just want to say that some big issues just open up for as far as person in the city and 1058 01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:33,580 There might be a good applicant right here. She's done some good work so far 1059 01:39:37,450 --> 01:39:39,690 Any other questions comments? 1060 01:39:39,690 --> 01:39:41,370 It's a call for the vote. 1061 01:39:41,730 --> 01:39:42,410 Mark A. Laff. 1062 01:39:42,510 --> 01:39:42,710 Yes. 1063 01:39:43,010 --> 01:39:43,470 Brett Boston. 1064 01:39:43,610 --> 01:39:44,570 Dennis Flores. 1065 01:39:44,770 --> 01:39:45,650 Roger Gomez. 1066 01:39:46,030 --> 01:39:46,210 Yes. 1067 01:39:46,390 --> 01:39:46,790 Joe Latino. 1068 01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:47,270 Yes. 1069 01:39:47,630 --> 01:39:48,330 Regina Mystery. 1070 01:39:48,710 --> 01:39:48,950 Yes. 1071 01:39:49,370 --> 01:39:50,010 Sarah Martinez. 1072 01:39:50,790 --> 01:39:52,430 It passes unanimously. 1073 01:39:54,110 --> 01:39:55,930 Mr. Clerk, item Q4. 1074 01:39:56,170 --> 01:40:02,170 Q4 resolution, authorizing payment for the council contingencies in the 2025 general fund budget 1075 01:40:02,170 --> 01:40:08,030 to senior research development agency, publicly in the amount of $1,000 to sponsor the barbecue 1076 01:40:08,030 --> 01:40:15,450 Thank you, Fundraiser and Cruz in from 4 to 10 p.m. at 230 North Main Avenue on Friday, June 27th, 2025. 1077 01:40:16,470 --> 01:40:18,530 Thank you, Mr. Clerk. We have a staff report. 1078 01:40:19,530 --> 01:40:29,090 Yes. Q4 is an ask from Councillor Sarah Martinez, that's for SRDA, to sponsor the Barbecue Fundraiser and Cruz in for $1,000. 1079 01:40:29,490 --> 01:40:32,190 The event took place on June 27th. 1080 01:40:34,940 --> 01:40:36,060 So I conclude your report. 1081 01:40:36,500 --> 01:40:37,100 It does. 1082 01:40:37,420 --> 01:40:37,780 Thank you. 1083 01:40:37,780 --> 01:40:40,660 Mr. Martinez, you wanted to comment? 1084 01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:43,200 Yes, Mr. President. 1085 01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:48,280 So like you all know, I do my research and everything. 1086 01:40:48,740 --> 01:40:54,840 So the thing that I have with this, and it has nothing to do with the director at all, 1087 01:40:55,720 --> 01:41:00,680 SRDA did get $50,000 from our annual budget for this year. 1088 01:41:01,380 --> 01:41:06,380 So that should cover the cost of this $1,000 event that has already passed. 1089 01:41:06,380 --> 01:41:12,640 and I know that council has talked in the past about not wanting to fund events that 1090 01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:18,900 are already passed that the request has come in late and you guys have passed those in 1091 01:41:18,900 --> 01:41:26,100 the past which I believe that you guys should pass a resolution saying if an event has passed 1092 01:41:26,100 --> 01:41:32,600 you guys do not fund them and the discussion on those ones that come into it and they are 1093 01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:36,520 also asking because as you guys know I have stated this in the past I do 1094 01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:41,940 read the attachments. They are asking the BOCC for money or have already asked the 1095 01:41:41,940 --> 01:41:48,620 BOCC for money. Whether that's $500 or $1,000 I don't know but they're triple 1096 01:41:48,620 --> 01:41:52,580 dipping right here and they did not get any money from CSAT already confirmed 1097 01:41:52,580 --> 01:42:00,680 to that. So that's good. And another thing if anybody has a relation with the 1098 01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:06,840 director if that is true they should recuse themselves because that is a 1099 01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:12,540 conflict of interest. These nonprofits in my opinion and others too in the 1100 01:42:12,540 --> 01:42:19,140 community they are double-dipping and triple-dipping and they're still staying 1101 01:42:19,140 --> 01:42:27,320 latched on to the taxpayer dollars. I asset this repeatedly time after time after 1102 01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:34,180 time that some of the same nonprofits keep on coming to milk us or our tax payer dollars. 1103 01:42:35,540 --> 01:42:45,020 And these nonprofits need to get some type of temporary baked licenses so they can sell 1104 01:42:45,020 --> 01:42:50,800 baked goods and everything to fund these events that they have in. 1105 01:42:51,580 --> 01:42:57,480 If you guys want to approve this or amend to say $250 and they could come up with that other 1106 01:42:59,020 --> 01:43:07,020 $750 somewhere else and that will conclude for Q4 and Mr. President, I would also remind you I'll speak on Q5 and Q6, sir. 1107 01:43:09,900 --> 01:43:12,000 Thank you. Is there a motion to approve? 1108 01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:13,300 I move to approve. 1109 01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:15,240 Councillor Flores, is there a second? 1110 01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:17,760 Councillor Boston, any questions? 1111 01:43:19,260 --> 01:43:20,340 Let's call for the vote. 1112 01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:24,780 Mark Eiliff? 1113 01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:25,120 Yes. 1114 01:43:25,780 --> 01:43:26,300 Brett Boston? 1115 01:43:26,620 --> 01:43:26,800 Yes. 1116 01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:27,860 Dennis Flores? 1117 01:43:28,260 --> 01:43:28,440 Yes. 1118 01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:29,360 Roger Gomez? 1119 01:43:29,740 --> 01:43:29,980 No. 1120 01:43:29,980 --> 01:43:31,300 Joe Latino? 1121 01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:32,380 No. 1122 01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:34,220 Regina Meisteri? 1123 01:43:35,140 --> 01:43:35,480 Yes. 1124 01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:37,100 Sir Martinez? 1125 01:43:37,340 --> 01:43:37,500 Yes. 1126 01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:42,220 Item passes 5-2. 1127 01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:43,880 Thank you, Mr. Clerk. 1128 01:43:45,180 --> 01:43:48,440 We now move to item Q-5. 1129 01:43:49,900 --> 01:43:53,060 Q-5, a resolution authorizing payment for the Council 1130 01:43:53,060 --> 01:43:55,960 contingencies account in the 2025 General Fund Budget 1131 01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:58,560 to Lake Avenue Community Church in the amount of $2,500 1132 01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:05,980 the sponsor, Besmer Buckets, from June 9th to June 11th, 2025, at the Corwin Middle School, and 1133 01:44:05,980 --> 01:44:16,520 Needy S. Friedman Expeditionary, K-8, and Besmer kicks from June 30th through July 9th, 2025, Minukwa Elementary. 1134 01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:18,640 Thank you, Mr. Clerk, we have a staff report. 1135 01:44:19,220 --> 01:44:24,780 Yes, Q5, this is an ask from Councillor Roger Gomez to sponsor the Gavin News Community Church. 1136 01:44:24,780 --> 01:44:27,480 they've got two different sports camps. 1137 01:44:28,100 --> 01:44:30,620 There's a K-5 basketball camp, which is Bessamer Buckets, 1138 01:44:31,180 --> 01:44:34,240 and their K-8 soccer camp, Bessamer Kicks. 1139 01:44:35,440 --> 01:44:39,040 Bessamer Buckets took place from June 9th to the 11th, 1140 01:44:39,260 --> 01:44:42,940 and Bessamer Kicks took place from June 30th to July 9th. 1141 01:44:43,380 --> 01:44:45,220 And this is the first sponsorship request 1142 01:44:45,220 --> 01:44:47,400 from Lake Avenue Community Church. 1143 01:44:47,900 --> 01:44:51,180 This program is intended to be fun and inclusive to all kids, 1144 01:44:51,180 --> 01:44:54,320 but also helps offset child care costs for parents. 1145 01:44:54,900 --> 01:44:56,200 And that concludes my staff report. 1146 01:44:56,500 --> 01:44:57,540 Thank you for that report. 1147 01:44:58,400 --> 01:44:59,340 Mr. Martinez. 1148 01:45:00,660 --> 01:45:07,620 Yes, thank you again, Mr. President. And I would say I'm in favor of this, but like I just 1149 01:45:07,620 --> 01:45:13,440 stayed on the previous one, this has already happened. So if we could get something out there 1150 01:45:13,440 --> 01:45:18,360 to these nonprofits that come forward, so they have enough time to do the sponsorship 1151 01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:24,440 and everything like that. And I know it takes some time to get through the ringer and everything. 1152 01:45:24,440 --> 01:45:32,040 but I noticed that this one did not have the same type of sponsorship request form filled 1153 01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:38,980 out as the other ones. So I hope in the future that every nonprofit that comes to ask for 1154 01:45:38,980 --> 01:45:45,620 any amount of money completes that if that would have to be a requirement or if council 1155 01:45:45,620 --> 01:45:50,520 could approve a resolution for something like that that would be wonderful. So everything 1156 01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:57,040 thing is uniformed when these nonprofits come forward instead of just a simple type of 1157 01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:04,040 email or a letter to the mayor's office and everything for these sponsorships. But 1158 01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:11,560 I, like I said, I'm in favor of this and I hope it approves 70. Thank you, Mr. President. 1159 01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:14,700 Thank you. Is there a motion to approve? Motion to approve. 1160 01:46:14,700 --> 01:46:17,820 Councillor Poston, is there a second? Second. 1161 01:46:18,180 --> 01:46:19,500 Councillor Latino, questions? 1162 01:46:21,780 --> 01:46:22,400 Councilor Gomez? 1163 01:46:23,540 --> 01:46:27,340 Yeah, this is a mission of the Lake Avenue Community Church that came into Bessemer 1164 01:46:27,340 --> 01:46:33,700 several years ago and they've got over 200 kids now in a recreation program that you desperately need in Bessemer. 1165 01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:43,640 They renovated a building at 17,000 square feet, rolled up the streets and did it by themselves, and as a matter of fact, 1166 01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:46,020 they're getting so big, they're going to have to purchase another building. 1167 01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:50,360 So these guys have put in their effort, can't say they're money or their mouth is, but 1168 01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,480 they're putting their effort in their roll and up the sleeves, and they're really creating 1169 01:46:53,480 --> 01:46:59,040 a lot of recreational time for kids and bestsmen as well as inviting other parts of the community 1170 01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:00,120 to come in and participate. 1171 01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:04,140 So I have a lot of faith in them, I've seen them, I've gone and visited, and I suggest you 1172 01:47:04,140 --> 01:47:06,780 guys, if you get an opportunity, go down there and see them as well. 1173 01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:07,480 Thank you. 1174 01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:08,900 Any other questions? 1175 01:47:10,980 --> 01:47:11,700 Councillor Marchina. 1176 01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:12,340 Thank you, Mr. President. 1177 01:47:12,340 --> 01:47:21,420 Mr. Gifford, in the past we've been directed to not provide funds to churches so can 1178 01:47:21,420 --> 01:47:22,620 you get shed light on that? 1179 01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:30,240 No, I can't and I don't know historically what the position of the city has been. 1180 01:47:30,460 --> 01:47:34,760 I can certainly look into that if this needs to be tabled to get further explanation 1181 01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:35,220 on that. 1182 01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:36,420 I apologize. 1183 01:47:36,700 --> 01:47:38,300 I wasn't aware that that might be an issue. 1184 01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:43,600 Any other questions? 1185 01:47:48,290 --> 01:47:48,810 I didn't hear you. 1186 01:47:48,810 --> 01:47:52,350 And I remember that correctly or it was at a fever dream. 1187 01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:56,650 I've never been involved where there was this conversation. 1188 01:47:56,950 --> 01:47:59,730 I mean, we give money to Catholic charities. 1189 01:48:00,070 --> 01:48:02,490 We do other things like this. 1190 01:48:02,670 --> 01:48:03,110 I don't know. 1191 01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:04,950 It's never come up. 1192 01:48:05,650 --> 01:48:09,070 Well, Catholic charities claims that they're not related 1193 01:48:09,810 --> 01:48:11,470 to the church. 1194 01:48:12,090 --> 01:48:13,750 They're separate from the church. 1195 01:48:15,930 --> 01:48:19,390 That was something that the mayor, 1196 01:48:19,390 --> 01:48:27,170 the previous mayor said when it came to crazy faith ministries and wanting to 1197 01:48:27,170 --> 01:48:36,670 help them out at one time. But this is an event which is a fundraising event and so 1198 01:48:38,010 --> 01:48:43,150 it's because you know the churches get non-profit status because they help 1199 01:48:43,150 --> 01:48:47,250 reach out to help the community that's their purpose and that's why they are 1200 01:48:47,730 --> 01:48:51,930 considered non-profits. So, but 1201 01:48:54,490 --> 01:48:57,830 similar to Councilor Martinez? 1202 01:48:58,390 --> 01:49:08,950 Yeah, I mean, because it's, it sounds like it's forward event to Councilor Maeshoes' point, but so I'm good to be voting on this tonight, but Mr. Gifford, I think I would like clarification moving forward. 1203 01:49:10,940 --> 01:49:11,380 Certainly. 1204 01:49:11,660 --> 01:49:12,400 Any other questions? 1205 01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:13,380 Yes, Councilor Gomez? 1206 01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:17,300 Just to know if they've never asked for money before, they've done a lot. 1207 01:49:17,300 --> 01:49:23,240 they've spent thousands and thousands and thousands of their own money renovating this church 1208 01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:29,700 which was a mess and they've provided different floors and it's bigger than most of these buildings 1209 01:49:29,700 --> 01:49:33,540 and public and they've gotten different floors they've got recreation they've got reading the kit 1210 01:49:33,540 --> 01:49:38,700 kits go over there and see it first and then give me your opinion but right now I can tell you from 1211 01:49:38,700 --> 01:49:44,440 what I've seen and what I've known about this group here they're doing it for the recreation for 1212 01:49:44,440 --> 01:49:47,120 of the area that sorely needs it in best summer. 1213 01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:47,900 Thank you. 1214 01:49:48,220 --> 01:49:49,280 Any other questions? 1215 01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:50,500 It's called for the vote. 1216 01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:51,300 Mark A. Left. 1217 01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:52,260 Yes. 1218 01:49:52,820 --> 01:49:53,300 Brett Boston. 1219 01:49:53,420 --> 01:49:53,560 Yes. 1220 01:49:54,140 --> 01:49:54,580 Dennis Flores. 1221 01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:55,040 Yes. 1222 01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:55,960 Roger Gomez. 1223 01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:56,460 Yes. 1224 01:49:56,960 --> 01:49:57,420 Joel Latino. 1225 01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:57,820 Yes. 1226 01:49:58,360 --> 01:49:59,140 Regina Meisteri. 1227 01:49:59,320 --> 01:49:59,780 Yes. 1228 01:50:00,440 --> 01:50:01,060 Sarah Martinez. 1229 01:50:01,220 --> 01:50:01,360 Yes. 1230 01:50:02,620 --> 01:50:03,600 Pass of 70. 1231 01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:05,840 Mr. Clark, Q6. 1232 01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:09,320 Q6 resolution authorizing a payment from the council contingencies 1233 01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:11,780 in the count of the 2025 General Fund budget 1234 01:50:11,780 --> 01:50:19,420 to the Roseland Company in the amount of $1,700 to sponsor reeds across America's start being at 12 p.m. 1235 01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:23,340 at Roseland Cemetery on Saturday, December 13th, 2025. 1236 01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:25,580 Thank you, Mr. Clerk. We have a staff report. 1237 01:50:26,260 --> 01:50:30,120 Yes, Q6. This is an ask from Councillor Regina Maistrie. 1238 01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:35,820 This is to sponsor 100 reeds for the Reeds across America's ceremony for the Roseland Company. 1239 01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:38,060 The sponsorship is for $1,700. 1240 01:50:38,060 --> 01:50:43,600 dollars and the ceremony will take place on December 13th and that concludes my staff report. 1241 01:50:43,860 --> 01:50:49,460 Thank you for that report. Mr. Martinez. Thank you Mr. President while I'm 1 million 1242 01:50:49,460 --> 01:50:57,360 percent for this but I would respectfully ask if you guys could amend this to $2,040 and why I'm 1243 01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:06,360 saying $2,040 because that would purchase an additional 20 more reach for those who have sacrificed 1244 01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:13,480 all for all of us to be here at this meeting either virtually or in person and 1245 01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:20,860 these are the heroes that we always speak of and then if I could also add to 1246 01:51:20,860 --> 01:51:25,940 this I don't know if it would be possible with City Council or the mayor to 1247 01:51:25,940 --> 01:51:32,520 actually put this in our annual budget for the nonprofit sponsorships and 1248 01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:41,080 everything. So this could be continued on annually forever and hopefully that could be added 1249 01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:49,920 into our budget which is only $2,040 for $100 and 20 raised I think we could afford to do that 1250 01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:55,960 annually and thank you Mr. President. Thank you is there a motion to approve? Motion to approve 1251 01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:57,560 Councillor Boston, is there a second? 1252 01:51:57,960 --> 01:51:58,420 Second. 1253 01:51:58,680 --> 01:51:59,460 Councillor Latino. 1254 01:51:59,960 --> 01:52:00,280 Questions? 1255 01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:02,240 Katie. 1256 01:52:03,220 --> 01:52:06,700 Do they requested the amount of 1,700 correct? 1257 01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:07,280 Correct. 1258 01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:07,760 Correct. 1259 01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:10,140 So they probably knew what they needed. 1260 01:52:10,440 --> 01:52:12,980 They know that they need like 4,000 rees. 1261 01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:15,480 And they get sponsors every year. 1262 01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:21,520 So if they asked for a specific amount, they probably knew what they needed based off of their 1263 01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:22,260 other commitments. 1264 01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:23,220 Correct. 1265 01:52:23,220 --> 01:52:24,400 I'm happy in my, yes. 1266 01:52:24,620 --> 01:52:25,360 Any other questions? 1267 01:52:26,460 --> 01:52:26,900 Councilor Gomez? 1268 01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:28,720 Yeah, in reference to this, 1269 01:52:28,940 --> 01:52:31,360 we just, and I agree with Ms. Maesha, 1270 01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:35,640 I think when you get somebody that's got a program like this 1271 01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:36,820 and we all care about it, 1272 01:52:36,820 --> 01:52:38,480 and everybody is gonna support it. 1273 01:52:38,580 --> 01:52:40,220 I know, I'm sure everybody is, 1274 01:52:40,540 --> 01:52:42,160 but I'm sure if they need it more 1275 01:52:42,580 --> 01:52:44,180 than what they suggested that, 1276 01:52:44,340 --> 01:52:45,240 they could have brought that forward. 1277 01:52:45,380 --> 01:52:47,660 And I don't think it's up to us to add 1278 01:52:47,660 --> 01:52:49,300 if this is something that there, 1279 01:52:49,820 --> 01:52:52,300 that number or something that we don't know if it's right 1280 01:52:52,300 --> 01:52:58,620 Right on the money. It's closed. It helps. We don't know. But I think if they want a $2,000, they're going to put it in their request. 1281 01:52:59,740 --> 01:53:00,480 Councillor Latino. 1282 01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:01,040 Yes. 1283 01:53:02,260 --> 01:53:11,560 Having worked with the Rosalind Cemetery Board and been involved in the race across America program, I believe that what they're asking for is what they need. 1284 01:53:12,140 --> 01:53:12,720 Thank you. 1285 01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:16,240 Thank you. Any other questions? It's called for the vote. 1286 01:53:16,700 --> 01:53:17,420 Mark A.L.F. Yes. 1287 01:53:17,420 --> 01:53:22,760 Yes, Brent Boston, Dennis Flores, Roger Gomez, Joe Latino, Regina Mystery, 1288 01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:26,360 Sarah Martinez, and it passes 7-0. 1289 01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:30,300 unanimous, Mr. Clark, we go to Q7. 1290 01:53:30,300 --> 01:53:35,240 Q7 resolution, authorizing payment from the Council contingencies account in the 2025 1291 01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:39,340 General Fund budget to the animal wear fair and protection society doing businesses 1292 01:53:39,340 --> 01:53:46,360 pause for life in the amount of $1,500 a sponsor, Pines for Paws from 5 PM to 9 PM at the 1293 01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:49,180 The Pueblo Union Depot, Friday, July 25th, 2025. 1294 01:53:50,340 --> 01:53:51,260 Thank you, Mr. Clerk. 1295 01:53:51,480 --> 01:53:52,160 We have a staff report. 1296 01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:53,760 Yeah, Q7. 1297 01:53:54,140 --> 01:53:56,060 This is an ask from Councillor Sarah Martinez. 1298 01:53:56,700 --> 01:54:01,220 This is to sponsor Paws for Life Event Heints for Paws for $1,500. 1299 01:54:01,820 --> 01:54:04,200 The event will take place on July 25th. 1300 01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:06,900 Council has supported this organization in the past, 1301 01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:08,680 but this is the first request for this event. 1302 01:54:09,480 --> 01:54:12,900 Sponsorship will include eight tickets for counsel to the event 1303 01:54:12,900 --> 01:54:18,120 and funds will be used to shelter feed and provide medical care to animals waiting to find their 1304 01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:20,220 forever home. And that concludes my staff report. 1305 01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:23,120 Thank you for that report. Is there a motion to approve? 1306 01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,660 Motion to approve. Councilor Boston, is there a second? 1307 01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:26,480 Second. 1308 01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,200 Councillor Flores, any questions? 1309 01:54:31,660 --> 01:54:32,560 Councillor Boston. 1310 01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:33,560 Thank you, Mr. President. 1311 01:54:35,140 --> 01:54:40,520 Katie, if this passes, what is the current state of the Council contingency fund? 1312 01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:48,520 So the current state, if this passes is $40,000, $9.88. 1313 01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:50,580 Sounds good. 1314 01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:51,180 Thank you. 1315 01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:51,960 Thank you. 1316 01:54:52,300 --> 01:54:53,220 Any other questions? 1317 01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:55,480 Let's call for the vote. 1318 01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:56,340 Markela. 1319 01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:56,820 Yes. 1320 01:54:57,080 --> 01:54:57,520 Brett Boston. 1321 01:54:57,660 --> 01:54:57,820 Yes. 1322 01:54:58,140 --> 01:54:58,540 Dennis Flores. 1323 01:54:58,760 --> 01:54:58,960 Yes. 1324 01:54:59,220 --> 01:54:59,660 Roger Gomez. 1325 01:55:00,100 --> 01:55:00,320 Yes. 1326 01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:00,940 Jolotino. 1327 01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:01,460 Yes. 1328 01:55:01,660 --> 01:55:02,320 Agena Mystery. 1329 01:55:02,460 --> 01:55:02,800 Yes. 1330 01:55:03,060 --> 01:55:03,540 Sir Martinez. 1331 01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:03,880 Yes. 1332 01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:07,340 It passes unanimously, 7-0. 1333 01:55:07,860 --> 01:55:12,200 Mr. Clerk, we now move to ordinances, final presentation, item R1. 1334 01:55:12,460 --> 01:55:22,400 Our one in an ordinance approving accepting the amended home-ARP grant agreement between the City of Public Autonomous Civil Corporation and the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development HUD. 1335 01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:29,020 Authorizing them here to execute the agreement together with all required necessary certifications, assurances, and 1336 01:55:29,020 --> 01:55:42,400 And documentations accepting home-ARP grant funds from HUD on behalf of the Plubble consort team in the amount of $3,090,925 and budgeting and 1337 01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:47,820 appropriating the home-ARP grant funds introduced June 23rd, 2025, a Council of Brett Austin. 1338 01:55:48,700 --> 01:55:52,040 Thank you, Mr. Clerk, do we have a newly appointed director report? 1339 01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:54,220 Yes, thank you, Council. 1340 01:55:54,220 --> 01:56:04,280 So, in 2021, the City of Hublot received the home ARP dollars, not to be confused with ARPA while they are American Rescue Plan Act. 1341 01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:07,900 They are appropriated through HUD, not the U.S. Treasury. 1342 01:56:08,180 --> 01:56:11,900 So, that is important because the expenditure deadline has not yet passed. 1343 01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:17,300 They were looking and doing an evaluation at the local field office here in Denver and 1344 01:56:17,300 --> 01:56:23,000 realized that they had under appropriated our formula funding for this by $4,020.27. 1345 01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,200 and so this is just receiving that additional, 1346 01:56:25,340 --> 01:56:26,820 we are not receiving an additional $3 million. 1347 01:56:27,300 --> 01:56:29,880 This is just receiving in that additional $4,000. 1348 01:56:30,420 --> 01:56:32,300 It will come into the consortium, 1349 01:56:32,380 --> 01:56:35,320 which is a split between the county and the city. 1350 01:56:35,340 --> 01:56:37,380 The city will get 87% of that 1351 01:56:37,380 --> 01:56:39,120 and the county will get 13% of that. 1352 01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:40,500 And that concludes my staff report. 1353 01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:41,900 Thank you for that report. 1354 01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:43,520 This is a public hearing. 1355 01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:46,740 Is there anyone here wishing to speak in favor of this ordinance? 1356 01:56:48,100 --> 01:56:49,520 Saying none, is there anyone here 1357 01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:51,260 wishing to speak against this ordinance? 1358 01:56:52,620 --> 01:56:55,580 say none the hearings closed. Is there a motion to approve? 1359 01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:56,220 Motion to approve. 1360 01:56:56,340 --> 01:56:57,820 Councillor Boston, is there a second? 1361 01:56:57,920 --> 01:56:58,140 Second. 1362 01:56:59,020 --> 01:57:00,720 Councillor Latino, questions. 1363 01:57:02,180 --> 01:57:03,040 It's called for the vote. 1364 01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:04,020 Mark A. Left. 1365 01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:04,320 Yes. 1366 01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:05,720 Brent Bosses. 1367 01:57:06,380 --> 01:57:06,820 Dennis Flores. 1368 01:57:07,060 --> 01:57:07,180 Yes. 1369 01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:08,080 Roger Gomez. 1370 01:57:08,420 --> 01:57:08,600 Yes. 1371 01:57:08,900 --> 01:57:09,380 Joel Latino. 1372 01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:09,780 Yes. 1373 01:57:10,140 --> 01:57:10,820 Regina Maistrie. 1374 01:57:11,420 --> 01:57:11,880 Yes. 1375 01:57:12,620 --> 01:57:13,300 Sir Martinez. 1376 01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:15,260 Passes 7-0. 1377 01:57:15,780 --> 01:57:16,220 Mr. Clerk. 1378 01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:17,200 R2. 1379 01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:28,040 R2, in order to approve and adopt the City of Plovel's 5-year 2025-2029 consolidation plan and the 2025 annual action plan for community development, block grant, 1380 01:57:28,700 --> 01:57:45,400 parentheses, CD, BG, and the home investment partnership act grant, home, authorizing the mayor of the City of Plovel to submit the application together with all the required, required and necessary certifications, assurances and documentation to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development 1381 01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:53,680 and they're property in budgeting, CDBG, and home funds therefore introduced June 23rd, 2025 by Councillor Breppe Austin. 1382 01:57:54,220 --> 01:57:55,740 Thank you, Mr. Clerk. We have a staff report. 1383 01:57:56,920 --> 01:58:00,060 Yes, this ordinance will do two things. 1384 01:58:00,180 --> 01:58:07,960 It will, first of all, accept our required five-year annual planning, or I'm sorry, our five-year consolidated plan with the Housing and Urban Development Department. 1385 01:58:08,180 --> 01:58:13,980 We are required to do this every five years, identify strategic goals and how we want to operate over the next five years. 1386 01:58:13,980 --> 01:58:28,000 Starting earlier this year, the housing and citizen services department did do extensive public outreach and was able to come up with a five-year plan, including those goals that were communicated by the public. 1387 01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:29,240 So that is included in the packet. 1388 01:58:29,660 --> 01:58:36,760 The second thing that this does is actually accepts budgets and appropriates the annual action plan, which is the $1.5 million roughly. 1389 01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:47,380 actually it's $1,432,469 in community development block grant funding and $877,545 in $14 1390 01:58:47,380 --> 01:58:53,280 in home consortium grant funding. Again, that home consortium grant, only the home consortium 1391 01:58:53,280 --> 01:59:01,000 grant is split 87% from the city and 13% to the county. Additionally, you may remember that we did 1392 01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:04,900 We did do a work session on the CDBG funds of 1.432 million. 1393 01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:08,420 We did not know at that point what that amount was going to be. 1394 01:59:08,480 --> 01:59:12,940 It came in shortly after we did the work session earlier this year. 1395 01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:14,900 But we are continuing to move forward with that. 1396 01:59:15,100 --> 01:59:17,480 So this will budget and appropriate those funds as well. 1397 01:59:17,620 --> 01:59:18,800 And that concludes my staff report. 1398 01:59:19,260 --> 01:59:20,140 Thank you for that report. 1399 01:59:20,700 --> 01:59:21,740 This is a public hearing. 1400 01:59:22,180 --> 01:59:25,300 Is there anyone here wishing to speak in favor of this ordinance? 1401 01:59:26,300 --> 01:59:29,820 Saying none, is there anyone here wishing to speak against this ordinance? 1402 01:59:30,420 --> 01:59:33,520 Seeing none, the hearings closed. Is there a motion to approve? 1403 01:59:34,740 --> 01:59:36,600 Councillor Boston. Is there a second? 1404 01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:38,960 Second. 1405 01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:41,040 Councillor Latino. Questions? 1406 01:59:41,940 --> 01:59:43,140 It's called for the vote. 1407 01:59:44,420 --> 01:59:44,940 Mark Eiliff? 1408 01:59:45,060 --> 01:59:45,180 Yes. 1409 01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:46,320 President Boston? 1410 01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:46,740 Yes. 1411 01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:47,580 Dennis Flores? 1412 01:59:47,860 --> 01:59:47,960 Yes. 1413 01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:48,640 Roger Gomez? 1414 01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:49,140 Yes. 1415 01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:49,780 Joel Latino? 1416 01:59:49,980 --> 01:59:50,200 Yes. 1417 01:59:50,780 --> 01:59:51,520 Regina Maistrie? 1418 01:59:53,220 --> 01:59:53,780 Yes. 1419 01:59:54,620 --> 01:59:55,480 Sir Martinez? 1420 01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:55,700 Yes. 1421 01:59:56,980 --> 01:59:59,980 As of 7-0, Mr. Clerk, we move to all- 1422 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:29,500 R3. R3, in ordinance amending section 15-2-8 of chapter 2 of Title 15 of the Plubble Municipal Code relating to the fees for metering, parking in the municipal parking lots, and providing penalties for violations thereof. Introduced June 23, 2025 by Councillor Bret Boston. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. We have a status report. Good evening, Mr. President. Members of the City Council and Mayor Graham. If approved, this ordinance will amend the fees for metered parking in municipal lots and garages to increase from 50 cents per hour to $1 per hour. 1423 02:00:29,500 --> 02:00:33,680 by increasing the hourly rate the city will be able to implement electronic payment by 1424 02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:39,200 smartphone projected revenue increase of $3,000 annually is expected from this 1425 02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:42,980 ordinance and pinning any questions this is my report. Thank you for that report. 1426 02:00:43,340 --> 02:00:47,100 This is a public hearing. Is there anyone here wishing to speak in favor of 1427 02:00:47,100 --> 02:00:51,680 this ordinance? Saying none is there anyone here wishing to speak against this 1428 02:00:51,680 --> 02:00:55,600 ordinance? Saying none the hearing is closed. Is there a motion to approve? 1429 02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:59,140 of most new approve. Councillor Boston, is there a second? 1430 02:00:59,740 --> 02:01:00,060 Second. 1431 02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:07,220 Councillor Gomez. Questions? Councillor Flores. Does this mean that we're replacing our meters? 1432 02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:14,180 Yes, or this is what the intent for this is to get rid of the physical meters and go to a QR 1433 02:01:14,180 --> 02:01:18,200 scan code, like you see in most and a lot of different municipalities. 1434 02:01:19,100 --> 02:01:23,120 And what is the cost of the switchover to this type of? 1435 02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:33,900 The cost of the switch over from it's included in that 50 cent raise to allow for the convenience fee of paying for your parking permit online. 1436 02:01:34,060 --> 02:01:35,480 Okay, that makes sense. Thanks. 1437 02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:36,740 Any other questions? 1438 02:01:38,380 --> 02:01:39,920 It's called for the vote. Markela? 1439 02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:41,320 Yes. Brent Boston? 1440 02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:42,500 Yes. Dennis Flores? 1441 02:01:42,780 --> 02:01:43,900 Yes. Roger Gomez? 1442 02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:44,540 Yes. 1443 02:01:45,420 --> 02:01:45,880 Joel Latino? 1444 02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:46,440 Yes. 1445 02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:47,780 Regina Mystery? 1446 02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:48,500 Yes. 1447 02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:49,960 Sarah Martinez? 1448 02:01:50,260 --> 02:01:50,380 Yes. 1449 02:01:50,380 --> 02:01:54,040 As of 7-0, Mr. Clerk, R-4. 1450 02:01:54,280 --> 02:02:07,520 R-4, an ordinance amending the fiscal year 2025, 2025 staffing ordinance through the conversion of two vacant positions with the Pueblo Works Department introduced June 23rd, 2025 by Councillor Bret Boston. 1451 02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:10,540 Thank you, Mr. Clerk, we have a staff report. 1452 02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:16,260 Good evening, Ms. Pachaca was unable to attend today, so she asked me to present in her place. 1453 02:02:17,020 --> 02:02:20,600 If approved the ordinance before, you would adjust existing staffing with the Public Works 1454 02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:22,600 Department in two aspects. 1455 02:02:23,220 --> 02:02:27,820 Currently a vacant traffic signal technician position would be converted to a traffic utility 1456 02:02:27,820 --> 02:02:28,520 worker three. 1457 02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:32,900 This is a cost-neutral change as the classifications share a salary range. 1458 02:02:33,580 --> 02:02:38,220 Secondly, a current vacant senior facilities maintenance technician would be converted through 1459 02:02:38,220 --> 02:02:40,600 a downgrade to a facilities maintenance technician. 1460 02:02:41,060 --> 02:02:45,860 This would be a lower classification, more at an entry level versus the journeyman master 1461 02:02:45,860 --> 02:02:49,680 level of the senior position within the facilities maintenance division of public works. 1462 02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:54,600 This change generates approximately $13,146 in savings for the general fund. 1463 02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:58,480 Both staffing changes are preferred operationally by the department to meet their objectives. 1464 02:02:58,980 --> 02:03:00,260 Pending any questions, this is my report. 1465 02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:01,860 Thank you for that report. 1466 02:03:02,580 --> 02:03:03,720 This is a public hearing. 1467 02:03:04,020 --> 02:03:06,640 Is there anyone here wishing to speak in favor of this ordinance? 1468 02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:13,640 say none is there anyone here wishing to speak against this ordinance saying none the hearings closed is their 1469 02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:19,160 motion to approve motion to approve councilor Boston is there a second councilor Latino questions 1470 02:03:19,160 --> 02:03:20,080 who 1471 02:03:22,190 --> 02:03:29,310 let's call for the vote mark a yes Brett Boston yes Dennis Laura's yes Roger Gomez yes Joel Latino 1472 02:03:29,310 --> 02:03:38,090 yes Regina Mystery yes sir Martinez pass the 7-0 Mr. Clerk R-5 R-5 1473 02:03:38,090 --> 02:03:55,150 An ordinance of mending section 6-16 of Chapter 5 of Title 6 of Plubble Municipal Code relating to the FY 2025 classification and pay plan by establishing the Pace Scale for Facilities Maintenance Technician introduced June 23rd, 2025 by Council Brett Boston. 1474 02:03:56,250 --> 02:03:57,810 Thank you, Mr. Clerk. We have a staff report. 1475 02:03:58,570 --> 02:03:58,850 Yes, sir. 1476 02:03:59,510 --> 02:04:05,310 If approved this ordinance, that's the 2025 salary scale for the position of Facilities Maintenance Technician approved in the previous ordinance. 1477 02:04:05,310 --> 02:04:12,610 As was referenced, this change will generate approximately $13,146 in savings for the general fund, pending any questions this is my report. 1478 02:04:13,050 --> 02:04:24,710 Thank you for that report. This is a public hearing. Is there anyone here wishing to speak in favor of this ordinance saying none? Is there anyone here wishing to speak against this ordinance saying none? 1479 02:04:24,850 --> 02:04:32,030 The hearings closed. Is there a motion to approve? Motion to approve. Councillor Boston, do we have a second? Second. Councillor Latino. 1480 02:04:32,030 --> 02:04:37,530 questions. It's called for the vote. Mark A. Left. Yes. Brett Boston. Yes. Dennis 1481 02:04:37,530 --> 02:04:45,430 Flores. Yes. Roger Gomez. Yes. Joel Latino. Yes. Regina Mystery. Yes. Sarah 1482 02:04:45,430 --> 02:04:50,330 Martinez. Yes. Pass of 7-0. Mr. Clerk of R-6. R-6. In the ordinance of 1483 02:04:50,330 --> 02:04:54,770 proving and amending and reinstated inter-governmental agreement, buy-in between the 1484 02:04:54,770 --> 02:04:58,790 City of Plubble County and the Plubble City County Library District for the 1485 02:04:58,790 --> 02:05:05,750 selection of trustees to the Pueblo City County Library District Board introduced June 23rd, 2025, by Councillor Brett Boston. 1486 02:05:06,830 --> 02:05:08,510 Thank you, Mr. Clerk. We have staff report. 1487 02:05:12,340 --> 02:05:13,660 I'd be more than happy to provide a staff report. 1488 02:05:13,740 --> 02:05:14,360 Thank you, Mr. Governor. 1489 02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:22,140 I'm Mr. President and members of Council. This is an ordinance that will prove and amend it and restate an IGA between the City and Public County District. 1490 02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:25,920 Library, if you have any questions, I'd be more than happy to answer them. Thank you. 1491 02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:29,060 Thank you for that report. This is a public hearing. 1492 02:05:29,060 --> 02:05:32,260 Is there anyone here wishing to speak in favor of this ordinance? 1493 02:05:32,800 --> 02:05:33,220 Come on down. 1494 02:05:42,690 --> 02:05:43,970 Please just state your name. 1495 02:05:44,750 --> 02:05:45,530 Sherry Baca. 1496 02:05:48,190 --> 02:05:49,950 I think we need to do one at a time. 1497 02:05:50,590 --> 02:05:51,070 One at a time. 1498 02:05:51,510 --> 02:05:51,610 Okay. 1499 02:05:52,010 --> 02:05:52,970 Do you mind if I go first? 1500 02:05:54,050 --> 02:05:54,890 Okay, very good. 1501 02:05:55,410 --> 02:05:55,970 Thank you. 1502 02:05:56,150 --> 02:05:58,510 President Alif, council members, mayor Graham. 1503 02:05:58,710 --> 02:06:00,970 Thank you so much for the opportunity to visit with you this evening. 1504 02:06:01,370 --> 02:06:05,150 I am Sherry Baca, the executive director of the Pueblo City County Library District. 1505 02:06:05,150 --> 02:06:09,250 My colleague, of course, Iris Clarke is a trustee on the library board. 1506 02:06:10,290 --> 02:06:17,450 We appreciate the opportunity to come speak in support of this ordinance for an IGA for library board appointments. 1507 02:06:18,470 --> 02:06:21,630 This document, this intergovernmental agreement, is pretty straightforward. 1508 02:06:21,870 --> 02:06:25,310 It's drawn mostly from Title 24 of the Colorado-Ruby statue. 1509 02:06:25,590 --> 02:06:28,270 We refer to it as Colorado Library Law. 1510 02:06:29,010 --> 02:06:33,970 The IGA ratifies current practices as it describes the process that is currently happening 1511 02:06:33,970 --> 02:06:39,210 when the city and the county jointly appoint library trustees, but it also holds in place 1512 02:06:39,210 --> 02:06:42,490 consistency for all three governments moving into the future. 1513 02:06:43,090 --> 02:06:46,010 The intergovernmental agreement sets forth the selection committee. 1514 02:06:46,570 --> 02:06:51,290 It seeks candidates that are representative of the community, so the library district serves 1515 02:06:51,290 --> 02:06:54,490 both the city, the public city and public county. 1516 02:06:55,430 --> 02:07:00,230 It also provides for the selection process that the selection process is completed before 1517 02:07:00,230 --> 02:07:02,810 a vacant trustee term starts every January. 1518 02:07:02,810 --> 02:07:04,750 So that's sort of a housekeeping matter. 1519 02:07:04,990 --> 02:07:08,570 We hope to always start with a full library board every January. 1520 02:07:09,090 --> 02:07:13,590 And I do want to report tonight just as a point of information, both the Board of County 1521 02:07:13,590 --> 02:07:18,150 Commissioners and the Library Trustee Board have approved this IGA prior to tonight. 1522 02:07:18,950 --> 02:07:24,370 And so I want to thank you for the opportunity to come and speak, and I'm happy to answer 1523 02:07:24,370 --> 02:07:24,990 any questions. 1524 02:07:25,990 --> 02:07:26,730 Thank you. 1525 02:07:27,010 --> 02:07:29,890 Is there anyone else wishing to speak in favor of this ordinance? 1526 02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:34,160 I would just like to say thank you. 1527 02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:35,720 Just, can you just tell us your name? 1528 02:07:36,120 --> 02:07:38,800 Oh, I'm Iris Clark, I'm a library trustee, 1529 02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:42,280 and I would just like to thank those who participated 1530 02:07:42,280 --> 02:07:46,680 in drafting this document, Sherry and Mayor Graham. 1531 02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:50,920 It's been a long time coming, so bravo for that. 1532 02:07:51,820 --> 02:07:54,400 The other thing I like to think of our library 1533 02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:58,200 as our Pueblos Intellectual Fitness Center, 1534 02:07:58,680 --> 02:08:04,020 and I think this document moves is a huge investment. 1535 02:08:04,160 --> 02:08:11,080 in our intellectual capital for Pueblo because it ensures into the future that we have 1536 02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:15,640 a fair and equitable process for selecting and appointing our library trustees. 1537 02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:22,080 So I hope you vote yes and I want to thank you for all the work you do as well. 1538 02:08:22,820 --> 02:08:23,700 Thank you. 1539 02:08:24,020 --> 02:08:24,340 Thank you. 1540 02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:28,260 Is there anyone else wishing to speak in favor of this ordinance? 1541 02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:38,880 say none. Is there anyone here wishing to speak against this ordinance saying none? The hearing is closed. Is there a motion to approve? 1542 02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:43,240 Motion to approve. Councillor Boston. Second by Councillor Flores. Any questions? 1543 02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:45,520 Yes. Councillor Boston. 1544 02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:49,400 Thank you, Mr. President. What is the duration of this IGA? Anybody know? 1545 02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:57,020 What is the duration of this agreement? Is it a yearly agreement? Is this five-year agreement? 1546 02:08:58,700 --> 02:09:00,580 Is it indefinite? 1547 02:09:01,500 --> 02:09:12,980 There's a provision, if I can speak, of course I'm not an attorney who has drawn up this agreement but there is a termination clause by which any of the governments can give notice and withdraw from the intergovernmental agreement. 1548 02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:17,920 So there isn't a term to it that would expire at some point in the future. 1549 02:09:18,440 --> 02:09:18,940 Sounds good. 1550 02:09:19,260 --> 02:09:21,540 And then isn't there a representative on council on that board? 1551 02:09:23,220 --> 02:09:24,520 Who is that representative? 1552 02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:25,440 And 1553 02:09:28,060 --> 02:09:29,340 Dennis are 1554 02:09:31,360 --> 02:09:33,840 you speaking about the selection committee or the library board 1555 02:09:33,840 --> 02:09:40,500 itself? The selection committee? Correct. She would know. She's on there. Do you 1556 02:09:40,500 --> 02:09:47,640 like this board? Thank you, Ms. President. Yeah, I've actually served as the city 1557 02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:53,380 councillor. I believe in the past there was two city councillors and two county 1558 02:09:53,380 --> 02:09:58,360 commissioners that have appointed trustees to the board. This is my fourth 1559 02:09:58,360 --> 02:10:02,440 If you're doing it, we've done some interviews of candidates. 1560 02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:08,580 We've taken, you know, the trustees write their letter of recommendation as well for 1561 02:10:08,580 --> 02:10:09,120 like candidates. 1562 02:10:09,540 --> 02:10:13,600 So I think it's, I'm glad that it's, you know, solidified now. 1563 02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:14,620 Yes, thank you. 1564 02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:20,840 And the agreement does stay up to two per governing body for the County Commission and the City 1565 02:10:20,840 --> 02:10:21,120 Council. 1566 02:10:21,460 --> 02:10:22,940 So it doesn't change that at all. 1567 02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:23,340 Yeah. 1568 02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:25,600 Councillor Flores has participated all last year. 1569 02:10:25,600 --> 02:10:34,320 Yeah, it's been a while, I think since we've convened a meeting, so, but yes, in the past I have voted on that committee. 1570 02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:39,990 I think that stays, I don't know if that stays the same now, I'll be. 1571 02:10:44,190 --> 02:10:46,810 Any other questions, Councillor Gomez? 1572 02:10:47,590 --> 02:10:52,090 Yeah, this is going to be tough for me to get out, but I'm going to say it anyway, this is in the corner of my district. 1573 02:10:52,670 --> 02:10:59,590 I have people that, and I'm not just making this up, I can bring it forward, where they're concerned about when they're going to the library. 1574 02:10:59,590 --> 02:11:02,350 There's a person that's at the front desk. 1575 02:11:02,490 --> 02:11:04,570 They have some questions about what's the he or she. 1576 02:11:04,870 --> 02:11:09,530 They're also having questions about library time hours with they can't get enough information. 1577 02:11:09,890 --> 02:11:13,850 I've tried several times and I kind of didn't get the answers I needed either. 1578 02:11:14,370 --> 02:11:19,570 So I'm having a problem with I understand the intellectual center, I got it, 1579 02:11:19,630 --> 02:11:21,250 but he needs to be a family center too. 1580 02:11:21,710 --> 02:11:25,630 And when I have to respond because it's in the corner of my district, I don't know what to tell him. 1581 02:11:25,630 --> 02:11:31,130 So, I'll be in front, I just don't feel comfortable supporting this until I get the answers I need. 1582 02:11:31,510 --> 02:11:32,710 Thank you. 1583 02:11:34,570 --> 02:11:36,570 The question is clear, is there anything? 1584 02:11:36,830 --> 02:11:37,610 Any other questions? 1585 02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:44,740 Did you want to answer? 1586 02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:46,760 May I just make a comment? 1587 02:11:47,060 --> 02:11:47,220 Sure. 1588 02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:58,180 The intellectual fitness center is something that's my thinking, it's not a formal library 1589 02:11:58,180 --> 02:11:58,800 position. 1590 02:12:03,030 --> 02:12:12,450 Well, I can speak for myself. I need to spend more time working out in that intellectual fitness center. So I'm with you on that. Any other questions? 1591 02:12:14,310 --> 02:12:17,650 Yeah, let's call for the vote. Mark A. Left. Yes. 1592 02:12:17,650 --> 02:12:21,710 Yes, Grant Boston, Dennis Lawrence, Roger Gomez, no. 1593 02:12:22,430 --> 02:12:23,050 Joe Latino? 1594 02:12:23,290 --> 02:12:23,490 Yes. 1595 02:12:24,290 --> 02:12:25,450 Regina Meisteri? 1596 02:12:25,770 --> 02:12:26,370 Yes. 1597 02:12:26,870 --> 02:12:27,750 Sarah Martinez. 1598 02:12:27,970 --> 02:12:28,110 Yes. 1599 02:12:28,550 --> 02:12:29,550 That's a 6-1. 1600 02:12:30,430 --> 02:12:32,070 Mr. Clerk, we move to our 7. 1601 02:12:32,870 --> 02:12:39,510 Our 7, an ordinance approving a land lease between the city of Plabula, Colorado, Miss Corporation, 1602 02:12:40,110 --> 02:12:45,870 and pivotal space in doing businesses leap, a Delaware Corporation, and authorizing the mayor execute the same, 1603 02:12:45,870 --> 02:12:48,990 We can introduce June 23, 2025 by Councillor Brent Boston. 1604 02:12:49,590 --> 02:12:50,570 Thank you, Mr. Clerk. 1605 02:12:51,590 --> 02:12:52,410 We have a staff report. 1606 02:12:53,250 --> 02:12:55,690 Yes, thank you, Mr. President, Mayor, Councillors. 1607 02:12:56,410 --> 02:13:01,310 This ordinance approves an agreement with pivotal space ink for a land lease on airport property 1608 02:13:01,710 --> 02:13:04,670 for the purpose of installing mobile rocket testing pads. 1609 02:13:05,310 --> 02:13:08,990 We are hopeful that this is just a first step to increase their footprint in Pueblo. 1610 02:13:09,450 --> 02:13:13,670 It is my understanding they are looking for potential manufacturing space within the airport industrial part. 1611 02:13:13,670 --> 02:13:22,670 So allowing them this, approving this lease, gets their foot in the door and it looks like we may have a good partner there to do some rocket testing here in Pueblo. 1612 02:13:22,910 --> 02:13:25,030 This concludes my report. I'm available for questions. 1613 02:13:26,150 --> 02:13:32,830 Thank you for that report. This is a public hearing. Is there anyone here wishing to speak in favor of this ordinance? 1614 02:13:34,230 --> 02:13:37,710 Saying none. Is there anyone here wishing to speak against this ordinance? 1615 02:13:39,170 --> 02:13:42,310 Seeing none, the hearings closed. Is there a motion to approve? 1616 02:13:43,290 --> 02:13:44,970 Councillor Boston. Is there a second? 1617 02:13:45,630 --> 02:13:49,870 Councillor Flores, questions? Councillor Boston. 1618 02:13:50,050 --> 02:13:53,430 Thank you, Mr. President. I'm no rocket scientist, but this sounds pretty awesome. 1619 02:13:54,730 --> 02:13:57,410 Have they done any rocket testing prior to this? 1620 02:13:57,970 --> 02:14:02,850 Yes, and they're building on their grant opportunities to expand their existing 1621 02:14:03,310 --> 02:14:08,250 north out of North of Denver, I think, near the Watkins air and spaceport. 1622 02:14:08,570 --> 02:14:10,070 So they haven't done any in Plobel yet? 1623 02:14:10,110 --> 02:14:10,610 Not in Plobel. 1624 02:14:10,790 --> 02:14:11,050 No, sir. 1625 02:14:11,350 --> 02:14:14,950 It sounds like it could be some high paying job opportunities. 1626 02:14:16,570 --> 02:14:17,630 Any other questions? 1627 02:14:18,870 --> 02:14:19,250 Yeah, I can. 1628 02:14:21,430 --> 02:14:29,410 Can I, can you please, for transparency, tell the public how much that is and how long it's 1629 02:14:29,410 --> 02:14:29,550 more? 1630 02:14:29,830 --> 02:14:30,290 Yes, ma'am. 1631 02:14:30,410 --> 02:14:32,410 It's a year-to-year, three-year term. 1632 02:14:32,410 --> 02:14:37,230 Again, with some off-ramps, if we need them, it's 19,000 per year. 1633 02:14:37,610 --> 02:14:38,130 Thank you. 1634 02:14:39,910 --> 02:14:40,710 Councillor Flores. 1635 02:14:41,310 --> 02:14:41,650 I'm sorry. 1636 02:14:42,030 --> 02:14:42,790 Councillor Gomez. 1637 02:14:43,290 --> 02:14:48,330 Yeah, the capacities of the rockets and stuff, you can you explain that a little bit. 1638 02:14:48,530 --> 02:14:52,610 So the specs are a little bit above my technical ability to understand, but they're going 1639 02:14:52,610 --> 02:14:57,090 to have mobile testing pads where the rockets will be fixed. 1640 02:14:57,270 --> 02:14:59,970 There's nothing being projected or vertically thrown into the air. 1641 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:29,680 There, they will be blasting down into a pad and they're measuring, you know, the thrust and stuff of that nature. They're going, it's a pretty ambitious and a pretty high tech field. So we're really excited to be a partner with them here. And I think it'll, it could potentially bring jobs. The land, we, is it in efforts to any kind of buildings? There's any kind of covering? Is it, is it just the land? So we're just leasing them the land. They're going to have what's called what they're determining or what we've just specced out as mobile testing pads. 1642 02:15:29,680 --> 02:15:39,260 So they will be removed when they, if they leave, they'll be able to return the land that's currently vacant and just to the west of the airport fence line. 1643 02:15:39,660 --> 02:15:45,500 They'll be able to return it back to its natural state if they decide to move on, but we're hoping to keep them here for a while. 1644 02:15:45,740 --> 02:15:48,260 This is just another feather in the cap for that airport. 1645 02:15:48,940 --> 02:15:52,520 The more things we can bring to there and what we've got out there is just incredible. 1646 02:15:53,260 --> 02:15:58,280 You know, people again, they don't realize how the potential that place is just nuts. 1647 02:15:58,280 --> 02:16:00,200 Okay, thank you. Any other questions? 1648 02:16:01,300 --> 02:16:02,140 Councillor Flores. 1649 02:16:04,380 --> 02:16:08,080 Does PEDCO know about this, if you talked to them about this? 1650 02:16:08,080 --> 02:16:14,420 Yes, there have been a good partner with them, too, trying to get them some additional manufacturing space in the industrial park, thank you. 1651 02:16:15,220 --> 02:16:16,080 Any other questions? 1652 02:16:17,860 --> 02:16:19,720 Let's call for the vote. Mark A. Leff? 1653 02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:20,960 Yes. Brent Boston? 1654 02:16:21,100 --> 02:16:22,160 Yes. Dennis Flores? 1655 02:16:22,380 --> 02:16:23,340 Yes. Roger Gomez? 1656 02:16:23,520 --> 02:16:24,660 Yes. Joel Latino? 1657 02:16:24,860 --> 02:16:26,220 Yes. Regina Maistrie? 1658 02:16:26,520 --> 02:16:26,760 Yes. 1659 02:16:27,160 --> 02:16:27,960 Sarah Martinez. 1660 02:16:28,160 --> 02:16:28,240 Yes. 1661 02:16:29,040 --> 02:16:29,920 Passes unanimously. 1662 02:16:30,340 --> 02:16:31,300 Mr. Clerk, R-8. 1663 02:16:31,640 --> 02:16:32,000 R-8. 1664 02:16:32,100 --> 02:16:37,440 An ordinance fixing the monthly salaries of the President and members of City Council at $1,800 1665 02:16:37,440 --> 02:16:43,020 and $1,400 respectively introduced June 23rd, 2025 by Councillor Bret Boston. 1666 02:16:43,980 --> 02:16:44,980 Thank you, Mr. Clerk. 1667 02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:45,900 We have a staff report. 1668 02:16:46,320 --> 02:16:47,660 Yes, Mr. President, members of Council. 1669 02:16:48,440 --> 02:16:53,360 This ordinance comes at the request of Council and floor as the attached ordinance will increase 1670 02:16:53,360 --> 02:16:59,920 the salary of the President of the City Council from $900 to $1800 per month and the salary 1671 02:16:59,920 --> 02:17:05,300 for other members of City Council from $700 to $1400 a month. As part of my staff presentation, 1672 02:17:05,620 --> 02:17:10,860 I have some other City Council salaries just for information. If you'd like to see that, 1673 02:17:10,900 --> 02:17:12,060 I could put it on the screen. Sure. 1674 02:17:15,050 --> 02:17:15,610 Is it doing it? 1675 02:17:15,790 --> 02:17:15,950 Which 1676 02:17:27,470 --> 02:17:28,110 was my staff report? 1677 02:17:33,180 --> 02:17:37,960 Thank you for that report. This is a public hearing. Is there anyone here wishing to speak in 1678 02:17:37,960 --> 02:17:43,370 favor of this ordinance? Saying none, is there anyone here wishing to speak 1679 02:17:43,370 --> 02:17:47,910 against this ordinance? Yes, Mr. President. Sure. 1680 02:17:48,870 --> 02:17:50,010 I was Martinez. 1681 02:17:53,010 --> 02:17:55,730 Did you want to go, Mr. President? You got it. 1682 02:17:56,490 --> 02:18:00,730 Okay, I was Martinez. I'm against this for the third time now that it's brought 1683 02:18:00,730 --> 02:18:06,890 up because they got brought up back in 2023. I believe twice, 1684 02:18:06,890 --> 02:18:10,890 to double it, and then it was brought up to triple it. 1685 02:18:11,490 --> 02:18:13,710 To me, it makes absolutely no sense. 1686 02:18:14,430 --> 02:18:18,390 I know and all of us know that council 1687 02:18:18,390 --> 02:18:23,770 is shouldn't be getting paid double of that because 1688 02:18:24,290 --> 02:18:29,890 I could bet a dollar that council wouldn't double 1689 02:18:30,310 --> 02:18:31,730 the work that they do. 1690 02:18:32,110 --> 02:18:34,610 Because I personally can't go to my supervisor 1691 02:18:34,610 --> 02:18:39,770 or asked for a double pay, he would write in my face. 1692 02:18:40,550 --> 02:18:44,750 And there were promises when everybody campaigned, 1693 02:18:45,490 --> 02:18:47,710 and respectively, with the exception of Mr. Boston 1694 02:18:47,710 --> 02:18:50,570 because he was appointed, and I love what you're doing, Mr. Boston. 1695 02:18:51,230 --> 02:18:53,910 But the thing is, there were promises, 1696 02:18:54,310 --> 02:18:58,530 not all of those promises have been made, that were said. 1697 02:18:58,530 --> 02:19:03,290 But we still have rising crime in different parts of town. 1698 02:19:04,290 --> 02:19:10,390 And we all need to come together with a solution that was brought up in public forum. 1699 02:19:11,110 --> 02:19:15,790 We have infrastructure that is crumbling on the east side. 1700 02:19:16,370 --> 02:19:17,530 Mr. Lighting, I don't know about that. 1701 02:19:18,330 --> 02:19:26,210 In Bessemer, Mr. Gomez has addressed that and over here on the west side, we need to fix 1702 02:19:26,210 --> 02:19:33,050 are problems first before anybody that the elected official wants to raise. 1703 02:19:33,610 --> 02:19:35,190 This does not make sense. 1704 02:19:35,570 --> 02:19:41,010 This isn't your judiciary duties to want to give yourself a pay raise. 1705 02:19:41,570 --> 02:19:49,950 And I know that it won't affect those that are leaving or anyone that are not rerunning 1706 02:19:49,950 --> 02:19:54,550 as of right this moment until you guys are up for reelection. 1707 02:19:54,550 --> 02:20:01,890 then it would affect that. And technically it would affect the budget very little for 1708 02:20:01,890 --> 02:20:10,150 four new council members for next year. Every dollar adds up as I stated in the past. 1709 02:20:10,730 --> 02:20:19,070 And we had to start looking at a reduction instead of adding. And I said maybe two months ago 1710 02:20:19,070 --> 02:20:21,870 or maybe three months, how about 1711 02:20:21,870 --> 02:20:23,630 lowering the council pay? 1712 02:20:23,710 --> 02:20:26,310 Because I know none of us go in there 1713 02:20:26,310 --> 02:20:27,230 for the pay. 1714 02:20:27,850 --> 02:20:30,990 What people do is run to help 1715 02:20:30,990 --> 02:20:33,190 the betterment of Pueblo. 1716 02:20:34,150 --> 02:20:36,370 And I know it's tough 1717 02:20:36,370 --> 02:20:39,090 or I've spoken to several of you guys 1718 02:20:39,090 --> 02:20:41,250 on several different subjects 1719 02:20:41,250 --> 02:20:43,450 and I love talking to you guys. 1720 02:20:44,030 --> 02:20:48,310 But let's respectfully vote this down 1721 02:20:48,310 --> 02:20:51,470 tonight. And I thank you, Mr. President, have a good night. 1722 02:20:52,550 --> 02:20:56,090 Thank you. Is there anyone else wishing to speak against this ordinance? 1723 02:20:58,560 --> 02:21:01,240 Say none, the hearings closed. Is there a motion to approve? 1724 02:21:01,880 --> 02:21:02,160 I'll make. 1725 02:21:02,900 --> 02:21:04,520 Councillor Meister, is there a second? 1726 02:21:05,900 --> 02:21:07,440 Councillor Latino, questions? 1727 02:21:08,200 --> 02:21:09,060 Councillor Flores? 1728 02:21:09,200 --> 02:21:14,960 I don't have so much as a question as I have a statement and that is I brought this 1729 02:21:14,960 --> 02:21:21,340 forward for three reasons, really. Number one, this salary that we get, you know, 1730 02:21:21,400 --> 02:21:31,000 all of us never ran to get the salary, but it was established in 1998 so that it's never 1731 02:21:31,000 --> 02:21:37,420 been adjusted, it's never been changed. And I think it's time, ironically, the inflation 1732 02:21:37,420 --> 02:21:44,580 factor from 98 to the present is really 100 percent. So in a way, we're not getting, 1733 02:21:45,480 --> 02:21:52,660 or the incoming council members that will benefit from this, basically will not be getting 1734 02:21:52,660 --> 02:21:57,520 a raise. We're just making an adjustment for inflation. The second thing is that no 1735 02:21:57,520 --> 02:22:02,240 one, and this is important to the public, none of us that's sitting up here, will benefit 1736 02:22:02,240 --> 02:22:02,780 from that. 1737 02:22:04,220 --> 02:22:11,420 There are potentially, we could benefit if we ran again for office or whatever, but that 1738 02:22:11,420 --> 02:22:14,980 would only trigger after you were re-elected. 1739 02:22:15,700 --> 02:22:21,880 And then the most important thing to me is that I think we're, you know, we're eliminating 1740 02:22:21,880 --> 02:22:29,860 a lot of younger people that may want to run and it could be the difference between maybe 1741 02:22:29,860 --> 02:22:31,580 be paying for babysitting. 1742 02:22:32,040 --> 02:22:38,380 In many ways, the money that we get, maybe we break even, you know, with all the abuse 1743 02:22:38,380 --> 02:22:45,380 our cars have in our coffees and tires and everything that goes into sitting here. 1744 02:22:45,560 --> 02:22:49,820 So I think it's time that we just make an adjustment for inflation. 1745 02:22:50,420 --> 02:22:56,440 There isn't a negotiated salary within the city that doesn't have a cost of living factor 1746 02:22:56,440 --> 02:22:58,080 in it in all of our agreements. 1747 02:22:58,540 --> 02:23:04,120 And I just I just think that this is a time to do this, none of us will benefit. 1748 02:23:04,940 --> 02:23:06,700 Thank you, Councillor Gomez. 1749 02:23:07,980 --> 02:23:13,560 Yeah, again, I think we've got to put things in perspective again, you know, we all believe in civic responsibility and good stuff. 1750 02:23:13,700 --> 02:23:17,480 But we look at some of the other places around Colorado. 1751 02:23:17,760 --> 02:23:20,980 You go to Colorado Springs, I hear this all the time, they're only getting $500. 1752 02:23:21,320 --> 02:23:22,340 It's a big difference, though. 1753 02:23:22,860 --> 02:23:27,240 They've got an assistant staff of nine people and they've got a legislative director that it's helping every single 1754 02:23:27,240 --> 02:23:32,060 member that's on that council with immediate response, with immediate results. 1755 02:23:32,900 --> 02:23:37,160 I would take that any day of the week and give up the $500 a month, because right now, 1756 02:23:37,820 --> 02:23:43,500 I have a staff of one, it's me, okay, I'm just saying to you, these counselors work hard, 1757 02:23:43,980 --> 02:23:48,780 and I'm telling you that we better understand what we're doing here. 1758 02:23:49,140 --> 02:23:55,600 We talk about the cost, $700 a month with all the respect, I'm okay with where I'm at. 1759 02:23:55,600 --> 02:24:04,840 I don't need anything else for myself, but I'm going to look about these young folks who are going to follow us, fuel, insurance, tires, tune-ups. 1760 02:24:05,300 --> 02:24:14,960 That's swallows $700 pretty quickly, and I'm just telling you, if I had my drothers, I would rather much have staff support than get a bigger salary. 1761 02:24:15,380 --> 02:24:16,560 That's just my opinion. Thank you. 1762 02:24:17,820 --> 02:24:28,980 Councilor Latino, I support Councilor Flores 100% again depending on the number of miles 1763 02:24:28,980 --> 02:24:34,320 you put on your car every single day, every month and the other expenses you have whether 1764 02:24:34,320 --> 02:24:42,300 as he related to coffee, meeting with merchants in the community, with business people in the 1765 02:24:42,300 --> 02:24:49,680 community with citizens in the community, again, it's time, and I want young people to 1766 02:24:49,680 --> 02:24:56,720 be excited about getting into this. I mean that, it's important for them. 1767 02:24:59,740 --> 02:25:00,320 I just turned 1768 02:25:00,320 --> 02:25:04,740 21. Councillor Boston. Thank you, Mr. President. 1769 02:25:05,840 --> 02:25:08,160 I would just like to make a comment on something that was said. 1770 02:25:10,860 --> 02:25:12,440 We are not just the staff of 1771 02:25:12,440 --> 02:25:18,900 ourselves we have an administrative assistant that I believe the Councilman Gomez was in support of and also any time 1772 02:25:18,900 --> 02:25:26,740 I've ever needed anything on council I email the mayor or the chief of staff and I always get a response and always get help with 1773 02:25:26,740 --> 02:25:32,300 anything I ever need and they connect me with any director or person in the city to help me with anything that I do need help 1774 02:25:32,300 --> 02:25:40,140 with so I don't see myself as a staff of one I see all the city staff is being an asset and are helpful to anything that I 1775 02:25:40,140 --> 02:25:45,700 I need. I've already spoken my opinions on this. Do I think that Council is underpaid? Yes. 1776 02:25:46,400 --> 02:25:52,360 Do I think they deserve a raise? Sure. But I don't support this. This Council constantly 1777 02:25:52,360 --> 02:25:56,820 preaches fiscal responsibility. Certain Councillors have said if you don't got it, you don't give it. 1778 02:25:57,740 --> 02:26:01,220 That's just my opinions. Yeah. 1779 02:26:02,220 --> 02:26:05,300 I just like to respond. You mentioned my name. Mr. Cal. 1780 02:26:05,300 --> 02:26:06,640 My head, Councillor Golis? 1781 02:26:07,160 --> 02:26:08,580 Well, that's you. That's not me. 1782 02:26:09,580 --> 02:26:13,200 It's pretty well known my opposition to some of the things the mayors are doing. 1783 02:26:13,720 --> 02:26:15,500 That's creating the problem when I can't get the help. 1784 02:26:15,980 --> 02:26:18,840 I'm not going to beg for it. I know how to do my own research. 1785 02:26:19,480 --> 02:26:21,480 I'm telling you from me, I don't see it. 1786 02:26:21,860 --> 02:26:24,620 You see it. That's fine, but don't compare me to you. 1787 02:26:25,760 --> 02:26:26,560 Councillor Meister. 1788 02:26:28,640 --> 02:26:30,960 This has just been a conversation 1789 02:26:31,620 --> 02:26:34,260 a little bit off and on since I've been on Council 1790 02:26:34,260 --> 02:26:45,700 and, you know, I don't, the public criticism that comes behind it, you know, I think this 1791 02:26:45,700 --> 02:26:52,040 doesn't even work out to minimum wage for what the hours and the time and the investment 1792 02:26:52,040 --> 02:27:02,000 that we put in because I can tell you that every one of us probably overspend, spend over 1793 02:27:02,000 --> 02:27:12,040 what we make every month and so, but you know, they talk about, you know, how do you offer 1794 02:27:12,560 --> 02:27:23,400 the younger perspective, make it worth their time to come here and serve and yet, you 1795 02:27:23,400 --> 02:27:27,940 know, that's the change that a lot of the community is looking for as a younger perspective. 1796 02:27:33,720 --> 02:27:47,040 I do agree that it should be higher, I am 100% behind that, but I'm not at this time. 1797 02:27:47,420 --> 02:27:51,940 And I don't think that four people that are leaving council should make that decision. 1798 02:27:52,060 --> 02:27:56,660 I think it should be made when the new council comes at the beginning of the year. 1799 02:27:56,660 --> 02:28:05,100 I think it makes it fair to the senior council that the next time if the ordinance doesn't pass, 1800 02:28:05,320 --> 02:28:11,560 that the senior council has served their time and they are the first in line to get the raise. 1801 02:28:12,340 --> 02:28:18,000 And then this new council that comes on here can wait there and it kind of makes it more right now 1802 02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:23,460 to have a new council come in. And I think it kind of messes with the ordinance a little bit. 1803 02:28:23,460 --> 02:28:29,720 But you know, that we're trying to get everybody equally paid if a raise is given. 1804 02:28:31,880 --> 02:28:39,500 And Mr. Gifford, I left a message on the on your answering machine to the answering 1805 02:28:39,500 --> 02:28:40,000 machine. 1806 02:28:40,440 --> 02:28:46,500 Your voice available today, you know, getting together would need to finalize that ordinance. 1807 02:28:46,960 --> 02:28:47,240 Okay. 1808 02:28:48,180 --> 02:28:51,820 And so I won't be voting for it tonight for that reason. 1809 02:28:51,820 --> 02:29:02,500 I'd like to see some more uniformity in the payout of it, but I do think it's a good idea. 1810 02:29:02,920 --> 02:29:10,860 And I think that that the new council that comes on, if there is going to be a raise, that everybody has a say on what goes forward. 1811 02:29:11,640 --> 02:29:15,160 But thank you, Councillor Foley, for bringing it forward. 1812 02:29:15,160 --> 02:29:16,760 All right. Any other questions? 1813 02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:18,600 I just wanted to make one last comment. 1814 02:29:19,120 --> 02:29:27,860 It's going to be really difficult for a newly ceded council to be voting for a raise for themselves. 1815 02:29:28,700 --> 02:29:30,000 To me, it seems awkward. 1816 02:29:30,520 --> 02:29:37,480 Here, it's very clean, whether you vote for or not, but here it's clean because none of us will benefit from it. 1817 02:29:37,860 --> 02:29:42,880 And it's a decision that I feel we can make. 1818 02:29:42,880 --> 02:29:49,680 I mean, we're elected, I think we can make this decision, but I can't see the new council 1819 02:29:49,680 --> 02:29:57,700 with potentially four new people would feel comfortable in voting for a raise the minute 1820 02:29:57,700 --> 02:29:58,740 that they take their oath. 1821 02:29:59,020 --> 02:29:59,980 It just seems like a real- 1822 02:30:01,560 --> 02:30:29,560 And I think we should make that decision going forward. Am I a pin? Yeah, and I get that, but I also think what's really awkward is for new people coming on. Pay being paid higher than the previous, you know, than the people who've been serving on council already, so- Thank you, Ms. President. You know, as one of the few people on the style who does have a, you know, a full time job on top of this duty, I said one of the few. I said one of the few. 1823 02:30:30,680 --> 02:30:46,660 I do know how demanding this role is, and I think that if we want to attract more diverse candidates like working people, single parents, younger voices, then compensation has to reflect the time and the responsibility of the job requires. 1824 02:30:47,440 --> 02:30:53,300 Public service shouldn't only be accessible to people that are retired or that are independently wealthy. 1825 02:30:54,180 --> 02:30:59,400 It's not about increasing our own paychecks today, but it's about making this role more 1826 02:30:59,400 --> 02:31:00,520 accessible in the future. 1827 02:31:01,200 --> 02:31:04,620 But I also can undermine the financial situation that we're in. 1828 02:31:05,080 --> 02:31:08,280 Our sales tax revenue is down 4% year to date. 1829 02:31:08,720 --> 02:31:13,480 There's been talk about some from members of Council about potential layoffs, and that's 1830 02:31:13,480 --> 02:31:14,180 really serious. 1831 02:31:14,720 --> 02:31:19,440 And I don't think that we can justify raising our own pay while also talking about laying 1832 02:31:19,440 --> 02:31:24,240 off the very employees who keep this city running every single day. 1833 02:31:25,060 --> 02:31:31,020 So if we do end up in a position where layoffs are necessary, I believe that we have 1834 02:31:31,020 --> 02:31:36,280 a duty to come back to this if it passes and re-evaluate because council reasons should 1835 02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:39,400 not come at the expense of our city workers. 1836 02:31:40,540 --> 02:31:47,600 So I'm voting yes with a caveat tonight that this decision has to be revisited if we are 1837 02:31:47,600 --> 02:31:49,900 in the if the financial situation worsens. 1838 02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:54,000 I also just want to say, you know, at the last year, 1839 02:31:54,400 --> 02:31:59,520 we talked a lot at length about freezing positions. 1840 02:32:00,980 --> 02:32:03,300 And we had a whole budget based off of freezing positions. 1841 02:32:03,300 --> 02:32:04,600 And at the very last minute, 1842 02:32:05,240 --> 02:32:08,400 Councillor Gomez says that he wants to add in 1843 02:32:08,400 --> 02:32:10,680 an admin assistant for City Council, 1844 02:32:10,880 --> 02:32:12,740 which is the first time that, you know, 1845 02:32:12,860 --> 02:32:15,460 I want to say in years that that's happened ever. 1846 02:32:15,460 --> 02:32:27,160 And we get then a new position added to the budget for an admin assistant for City Council added at the last minute. 1847 02:32:28,180 --> 02:32:31,500 Even though that whole time we were saying, let's freeze all the positions. 1848 02:32:32,240 --> 02:32:39,040 And then we have a fabulous new assistant Katie who works tirelessly trying to help us. 1849 02:32:39,040 --> 02:32:52,200 Not only that, but we have 22 department directors who work, again tirelessly to answer our questions and to help us. 1850 02:32:52,440 --> 02:33:06,280 And so I think that throwing phrases out like I'm a staff of one is not only false, but it totally diminishes and undermines the great work that our city staff. 1851 02:33:06,280 --> 02:33:12,380 particular own city admin assistant, which you advocated for at the last minute, do every single day. 1852 02:33:13,520 --> 02:33:14,660 And the councilor Gomez? 1853 02:33:15,180 --> 02:33:15,920 Yeah, I'd like to respond. 1854 02:33:16,340 --> 02:33:22,460 You know, one of the things that I think is the kind of cloak and dagger stuff I have to put up with here from Miss Martinez. 1855 02:33:22,680 --> 02:33:34,340 I'm just telling you right now, when we went and I pushed for an assist, I didn't understand at the time until I saw the job description that basically she's under the supervision of the mayor's office, not the council. 1856 02:33:34,340 --> 02:33:40,680 So I'm entitled to have my opinion on what I would like to see as opposed to what you would like to see. 1857 02:33:41,160 --> 02:33:42,800 So please spare me. 1858 02:33:42,940 --> 02:33:45,760 We had work session after work session after work session. 1859 02:33:47,580 --> 02:33:49,400 I do not see the job to stop. 1860 02:33:50,880 --> 02:33:58,160 We're on whether we're going to give city council raises, not on whether what we did last year on an admin assistant. 1861 02:33:58,940 --> 02:34:01,800 So let's stick to the topic. 1862 02:34:01,800 --> 02:34:09,960 Mr. President, when he says something, to justify his vote that diminished his staff, 1863 02:34:10,100 --> 02:34:12,040 I cannot say silent on that. 1864 02:34:12,940 --> 02:34:13,860 Here's the point. 1865 02:34:14,280 --> 02:34:16,220 You can't diminish somebody's opinion. 1866 02:34:16,900 --> 02:34:22,120 If somebody, like I can't diminish your opinion, you can say anything you want. 1867 02:34:22,440 --> 02:34:25,040 That doesn't mean I need to attack you for what you say. 1868 02:34:25,620 --> 02:34:26,920 But then let's talk about facts. 1869 02:34:26,920 --> 02:34:31,240 The fact is, is that he's the one that hired the admin assistant. 1870 02:34:32,160 --> 02:34:38,400 The fact is that the admin assistant wouldn't have got hired without a majority of city council voting for it. 1871 02:34:38,680 --> 02:34:44,420 The fact is that we reviewed that position over and over and over again. 1872 02:34:44,800 --> 02:34:50,020 But it was approved by the majority of city council to not councilor Gomez. 1873 02:34:52,760 --> 02:34:53,380 Councilor Meister. 1874 02:34:54,080 --> 02:34:57,000 You know, this just sounds like an abusive relationship. 1875 02:34:57,000 --> 02:35:05,700 Council is not, you know, should not be taking a raise. Councils should not be having 1876 02:35:05,700 --> 02:35:13,740 a feeling about anything. Councils should be fixing everything, but yet they're less 1877 02:35:13,740 --> 02:35:24,240 than a city employee. They're less than minimum wage. They should just accept and take and 1878 02:35:24,240 --> 02:35:28,500 take and take everything that comes with the job and expect nothing. 1879 02:35:29,460 --> 02:35:34,080 I, you know, there's an $1,800 or whatever this amount is. 1880 02:35:34,420 --> 02:35:37,720 Shoot, I think it's been since high school since I made that amount. 1881 02:35:38,720 --> 02:35:43,380 You know, so I just don't think that I don't think we need to be tearing each other down 1882 02:35:43,380 --> 02:35:49,620 over this on who deserves more, who deserves not, or we're not being physically 1883 02:35:49,620 --> 02:35:58,900 consider, you know, responsible and yet we're going to be bashed for just trying to bring it up to 1884 02:36:00,560 --> 02:36:12,020 a standard wage. I mean, an entry-level wage to serve the community. We're going to be bashed 1885 02:36:12,020 --> 02:36:16,260 for that. We're going to bash each other. We're going to say, oh, now all of a sudden, we're not 1886 02:36:16,260 --> 02:36:26,140 basically responsible. This is pennies compared to $134 million budget pennies. And we're just asking 1887 02:36:26,140 --> 02:36:34,360 that it should never have why should it cost us to come here every Monday night and be responsible 1888 02:36:34,360 --> 02:36:45,340 because we have a lot of responsibility in our roles but not be worthy of our time or our advice or 1889 02:36:45,340 --> 02:36:49,600 or our opinions or our, I mean, this has just gotten ridiculous. 1890 02:36:50,300 --> 02:36:54,800 I had someone tell me today, oh, why, I don't think you should get that much. 1891 02:36:56,280 --> 02:36:56,780 Seriously? 1892 02:36:57,800 --> 02:37:04,980 I mean, it's a drop in the bucket compared to what the city spends and why they feel 1893 02:37:04,980 --> 02:37:13,720 that their council isn't deserving of just to be reimbursed for their time at minimum wage 1894 02:37:13,720 --> 02:37:20,280 is just it's ludicrous but and then to beat each other up over this you know 1895 02:37:20,280 --> 02:37:24,500 Willis leave it for I'm just leaving it for the next council to figure it out 1896 02:37:24,500 --> 02:37:29,940 I would like to make it you know hopefully the people in this community would 1897 02:37:29,940 --> 02:37:34,500 like to make it fair and even straight across the board by whenever a raise is 1898 02:37:34,500 --> 02:37:41,220 decided that the council all receives it at the same time you know I mean I'm 1899 02:37:41,220 --> 02:37:46,420 I'm going to ask Mr. Gifford to put some stipulations that we're not giving, the councils aren't giving 1900 02:37:46,420 --> 02:37:51,160 themselves raises every six months that we do it every so many years, you know, every 1901 02:37:51,160 --> 02:37:52,100 four years. 1902 02:37:53,160 --> 02:38:00,040 And then that way, it kind of, it kind of offsets this requirement that we have to wait every, 1903 02:38:00,360 --> 02:38:03,180 you know, however it is to get paid. 1904 02:38:03,540 --> 02:38:08,940 So, that we get, you know, that would happen under the charter today. 1905 02:38:08,940 --> 02:38:18,100 So, I think we should just look to see if how much support we get from the public and how appreciated we are. 1906 02:38:18,540 --> 02:38:24,260 Our campaigns cost more than what we ever make in a four-year term. 1907 02:38:24,880 --> 02:38:28,820 They cost more than that just to get on there, you know? 1908 02:38:29,280 --> 02:38:31,020 I mean, give me a break. 1909 02:38:31,580 --> 02:38:33,600 Anyways, that's all I have to say. 1910 02:38:34,240 --> 02:38:42,060 Yes, I agree with Councilor Flores, and I agree with Councilor Maestri, and I agree with Councilor Martinis. 1911 02:38:45,320 --> 02:38:46,780 We're in the 21st century folks. 1912 02:38:46,980 --> 02:38:53,360 Once the last time they had to raise 100 years ago here, 20, 50 years ago, 27 years ago. 1913 02:38:53,820 --> 02:38:55,920 Okay, come on, come on. 1914 02:38:58,540 --> 02:39:03,180 I was the one that brought this forward, and I think, you know, we look at other places. 1915 02:39:03,180 --> 02:39:08,440 I mean, this is in Denver, where they're making $100,000 a year, where we have half a million people. 1916 02:39:09,260 --> 02:39:17,920 But come on, I had to buy new tires, I have to fight to get mileage, are you kidding me? 1917 02:39:18,560 --> 02:39:24,320 I go take somebody to lunch or coffee or I got a fight to get that, come on, come on, come on. 1918 02:39:24,320 --> 02:39:25,060 Can 1919 02:39:28,320 --> 02:39:31,740 we call for the question? 1920 02:39:33,100 --> 02:39:34,640 Yes, everybody had a chance to speak? 1921 02:39:37,250 --> 02:39:38,190 Let's call for the vote. 1922 02:39:38,570 --> 02:39:38,870 Markela. 1923 02:39:39,070 --> 02:39:39,210 No. 1924 02:39:40,050 --> 02:39:40,650 Fred Boston. 1925 02:39:40,850 --> 02:39:40,930 No. 1926 02:39:41,610 --> 02:39:42,230 Dennis Flores. 1927 02:39:42,690 --> 02:39:42,810 Yes. 1928 02:39:43,530 --> 02:39:44,010 Roger Gomez. 1929 02:39:44,410 --> 02:39:44,670 Yes. 1930 02:39:45,330 --> 02:39:45,850 Joel Latino. 1931 02:39:46,130 --> 02:39:46,350 Yes. 1932 02:39:47,310 --> 02:39:48,090 Regina Maistrie. 1933 02:39:48,350 --> 02:39:48,550 No. 1934 02:39:48,990 --> 02:39:49,750 Sarah Martinez. 1935 02:39:51,070 --> 02:39:52,210 Passive sports ring. 1936 02:39:56,660 --> 02:39:59,840 And Councillor Maistrie, we move into the exact conversation. 1937 02:39:59,840 --> 02:40:29,700 Yes, President Alive, I would like to move into executive session for the purpose of determining positions relative to matters that may be subject to negotiations, developing strategy for negotiations, and or instructing negotiators under CRS section 2, 4-6-402, 4EI, and to discuss the purchase acquisition lease transfer or sale of any real personal 1938 02:40:29,700 --> 02:40:39,240 our other property interest pursuant to CRS 246-6-402-4A and more specifically described as 1939 02:40:39,240 --> 02:40:46,900 discussions relating to the sale of 101 West River Rock Place, units 1A and 1B. 1940 02:40:47,400 --> 02:40:55,580 Second by Councillor Flores. All those in favor? Any opposed? We now go into executive session 1941 02:40:55,580 --> 02:40:57,300 and shall return when we're out.