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>>> good morning, everyone

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, thank you so much for being here today.

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a little bit after 9:00,

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9:06 a.m. , on

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february 19th . Our council meeting

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will begin.

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roll call.

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>>> everybody is here. Thank you

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so much.

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I would like to have a moment

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of silence for

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reverend bill who served the city

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for 20 years and

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was a friend to everyone.

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a moment of silence

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for bill, his family.

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>> heavenly father , we come before

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you today and ask you be with each

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of us in

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all we do and always say. Help us

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to be a blessing to others.

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lord, god

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, we thank you

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for all you have done for us in the

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past and all you will do

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for us in the future. Father, bless

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all the families represented here

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today and bless

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this city council and the decisions

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they make

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and made

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those decisions be pleasing to you.

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psalm 33:12 says blessed is

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the nation

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. Amen.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america

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and to the republic for which it stands

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one nation

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under god indivisible with liberty and justice for

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all.

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's period

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could all of our veterans stand.

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we thank you for your service. [ applause ]

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do

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we have any announcements?

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>>> I would like

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to thank the johnsons

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for letting us use the space free

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of charge. Very generous

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of them.

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I wanted to announce , melissa

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to tallahassee. It was extremely productive

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. I cannot tell you how wonderful

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it is to have them help out with the

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changes,

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special sessions ,

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they made everything work.

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they presented

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we have fully dollars and they would

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support it. Amazing

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, the president

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is personally sponsoring this for us

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, which is

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a huge thing.

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he said he would take it.

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vanessa oliver will carry it to the floor.

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it is a big deal

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for us and I think that is pretty

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cool we will have the governor

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signed it and we will have that equipment.

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we will start off

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with our proclamations. Excuse me,

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our next meeting

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is march 5th at the laishley community

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room .

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melissa, you said

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you would put signs out?

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we will have signage.

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signage versus city council meeting here.

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--signage that says

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city council meeting her.

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agenda approval ?

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do we want to pull in the items?

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from the meeting we had

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yesterday morning , I believe we will

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request to

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pull parks and recreation , is

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that okay ?

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we will pull the status of

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the ymca because we had a community member

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in district 1 who wanted to meet with

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them so we

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wanted to pull that to give them time

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to bring forward

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a good presentation about the ymca.

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is that okay?

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third thing, move 911 dispatch to

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the first topic of conversation for

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regular agenda.

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is that okay? Perfect,

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thank you . Anything else I needed

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? Now, we will

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start with populations or presentations,

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the first is st.

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vincent de paul

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day. Janis ?

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proclamation

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today in punta gorda , whereas

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the county continues and has been

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affected by

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the devastating effects of recent hurricanes

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of our neighbors finding themselves

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in dire distress and need of assistance,

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whereas,

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the society of st. Vincent de paul

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has a mission to assist those in need

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community and individual needs and programs

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such as disaster relief services,

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job training, placement

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, thrift

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always seeking [ indiscernible -low

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] towards the flourishing of every person,

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whereas, the local churches and

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charities, including

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and participating in seasonal programs

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for school supplies

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each year , the four conferences of

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st. Vincent de paul in charlotte county

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will raise funds to increase awareness

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of the less fortunate in our community

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where every money raised benefits

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neighbors in charlotte county. The

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city council

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of the city of punta gorda , florida

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hereby proclaims

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march 8, 2025 as st. Vincent de paul

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day .

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and encourages all city

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--charlotte county residents to participate

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in the 16th annual [

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with the society

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to support its mission.

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duly adopted this 19th

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day of february, 2025, city of

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punta gorda, florida . Is there anything

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thank everyone, without us raising money,

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we would not be able to help

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thousands of people per year. With electricity.

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mortgage payments. Thank you

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, everybody.

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you are.

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>> thank you . [ applause ]

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>> next presentation is black history month.

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>> it is with great honor

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that I am able to present this proclamation

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this

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morning to

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whereas , during black history month

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, we honor the courage and tenacity

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of the black

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american need to overcome and expand

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the civil principle that

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all people are created equal, whereas

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, black history month affords a

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special opportunity for

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all americans to celebrate and reflect

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on black heritage and to honor the

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many black

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leaders who are contributing to the

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progress of

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our nation in the face of great diversity. Whereas

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, knowledge of this difficult past

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strengthen the insight of all of our citizens

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regarding the issues of human rights,

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the great strides that have been made,

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and the effort to eliminate

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the barriers for a quality with minorities

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the city of punta gorda is proud to

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honor

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the history and achievements of its

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black community

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community organizations such

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as community united

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who continue to

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provide support and resources to help

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thrive. Therefore , the city

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council of the city of punta gorda

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, florida hereby

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proclaim the month of february, 2025

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, as black

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history month,

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duly adopted this 19th day of february, 2025.

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>> my lord and savior

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, jesus christ, I want to acknowledge

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you all for

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even considering

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--this is very special to us.

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I want to acknowledge

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the representatives. My father here,

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wife year , we have sponsors as well

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, pastor jermaine andrews

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word and power kingdom centered in

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port charlotte.

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demetrius thomas ,

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st. Mary's baptist church, our sponsors

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we are an organization, nonprofit

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that goes out

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and tries to reach the needs of

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the people by serving the food, hygiene products,

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we minister

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, we do it all.

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trying to be the hands and feet of jesus.

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we are looking to be here

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to be with you all on the fifth

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, the operator of the community

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garden on virginia. We just thank

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you for

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this opportunity and we look forward

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to doing greater things

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in the city.

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did you want anybody else in the photo

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family and friends?

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come on down.

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>> next ,

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the 80th anniversary of the battle of

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iwo jima.

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proclamation whereas,

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1945, the united states marine corps

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most grueling battle on the battle

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iwo jima .

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--displayed extranet courage

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extraordinary courage

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, whereas

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, [ indiscernible -low volume ]

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to those

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who fought in the battle of iwo jima .

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those who bought at iwo jima , including

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the thousands who gave their lives

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must never

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be forgotten. Help

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to secure the freedom we enjoy

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today and punta gorda recognizes

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that gratitude 02

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this battle to

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be reaffirmed the commitment

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and honor those who stood in defense

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of liberty [ indiscernible -muffled

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therefore, the city council of

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punta gorda, florida proclaims

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they were 19th, 2025 as the

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80th anniversary

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of the battle of iwo jima and encourages

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all

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citizens to reflect on the sacrifices

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made by these brave servicemembers

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and

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honor their enduring legacy. The

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newly adopted

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on this 19th day of february

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, 2025 .

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>>

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[ applause ]

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>> thank you .

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I am a

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jr. Vice, not --

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out of cape coral, florida.

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we are the ones

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that meeting the iwo jima monument

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that you see in

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veterans park.

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this sunday,

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deborah 23rd,

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we will be doing --

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february 23rd,

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this is important,

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the anniversary, the exact date

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I want to thank the city council

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and yourself . So much.

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appreciate it.

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[ applause ]

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>> all marines in

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the audience

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join us for a photograph.

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>>

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could we bring up all the veterans, please?

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veterans, come on!

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>> [ applause ]

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>> last but

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not least, a special proclamation

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for

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betty louise munford they.

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-- day.

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>> brenda

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,, peter , thank you

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--

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I am honored to present this to

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her daughter. Betty

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louise munford

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was born on march 16th, 1934

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.

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a pharmacist and a teacher

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, who it

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segregation

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profoundly impacted her early years

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as she was

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buzzed past

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white schools to attend black junior

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and senior high schools. She excelled

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academically, graduating from central

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high school

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and immediately enrolled at the university

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of louisville

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where she completed her masters degree

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in three years before pursuing graduate

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studies. Whereas, betty was dedicated

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to

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building relationships , eliminating

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racial injustice

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and

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promoting minority entrepreneurship.

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materials and

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training for the young women's christian

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association center of racial justice

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,

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the value of minority owned businesses

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and the director

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of the council and establishing the

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minority purchasing program.

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her dedication did not go unnoticed

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as she received

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numerous accolades including recognition

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from president ronald reagan , george

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h.w. Bush

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, and bill clinton.

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after relocating to charlotte county

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in 2017

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, betty remained committed to humanitarian

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causes until her passing

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with

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habitat for humanity, the aclu,

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and the national association for the

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advancement of

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colored people , and

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the tuskegee airmen museum

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and doctors without borders. Therefore,

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the city council of

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punta gorda, florida hereby proclaims

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february 19th ,

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2025 as betty louise munford

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day and urges all

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citizens to follow her example to

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make the city

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a more just place.

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on the 19th day of february,

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2025 , in the

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city of punta gorda, florida.

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>>

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[ applause ]

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>> I want to say a quick thank you.

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her 90 years

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she touched a lot of lives

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and she strive every day to do what

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is right and

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help everybody appreciate and love

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each other.

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she was a wonderful woman. A

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wonderful woman.

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I appreciate this award very much.

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>>

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[ applause ]

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>> what a wonderful morning of populations.

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now we go to public input.

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those who wish to introduce themselves

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as nominees

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--anyone wishing to address the council

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on any matters, state the

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name for the record, and afterwards

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, we will do

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the nominees . Each person will be

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allowed to speak

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up to a maximum of three minutes.

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please, be respectful

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.

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>> hello,

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my name is keith anderson.

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I will speak about the

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911 center consolidation.

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as background, I practiced

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emergency medicine and critical care

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for

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42 years and my specialty is ems systems

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and I was one of

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the first emergency physicians in

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the united states

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formally trained in emergency dispatch.

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also, I was an

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operational consultant to the united

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states army

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, second airborne

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, special operations forces in ft.

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bragg. Professor

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at the jfk center at ft.

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bragg for 10 years.

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I

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would like to thank you , I am her

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to urge you to reject any plan that

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allows the county sheriff to

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take control of the 911 communications center.

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it is a matter of public safety, accountability

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, and

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responsible governance.

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the sheriff is an elected official,

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not a neutral administrator.

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if we hand over our cities 911 operation

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to emergency response,

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political office with no accountability

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to this council

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for our city's leadership. That is

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a risk we cannot afford at any price

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. 911 dispatchers serve the needs

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of every resident and should not be

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affected by political pressures, budget

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decisions made outside the chamber

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, policy set by a single elected

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official. Instead, consolidating the sheriff

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we should establish a structure that

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ensures balanced oversight

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, whether through an independent director

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, a professional civilian administrator, or

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a regional board with the proper checks

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and balances.

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when seconds count, we need a system

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focused on efficient professionalism

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and responsiveness. Centralizing control

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could lead to delays , conflict

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of interests , and reduced coordination

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with

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city emergency services . We must prioritizes

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serving all first responders equally

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and remaining

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accountable to the public and not just

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one elected official. We deserve a

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911 that is independent accountable

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to the

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people it serves . I urge this council

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to stand

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firm against any proposal that gives

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the sheriff control of our

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emergency communications. Instead,

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we should create a

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system that ensures reliability , fairness

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, and safety for all.

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>>

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[ applause ]

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>> good morning.

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I want to talk

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about the 911 dispatch as well.

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the city of punta gorda

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is a small centralized place where

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there is a lot

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of historic buildings

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, valuable buildings, but ,

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historically valuable and culturally

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valuable buildings.

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our

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911 system is serving as

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--us very well, our

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response time is better than the county

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as a whole and I want to selfishly

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say that we would not

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have --we would not be in

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our house right now if it were not

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for

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the city dispatch , the

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911 center. We had a fire

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when the

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saltwater went to the electrical system and

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we did not know

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. We were sleeping at 6:00 in the morning.

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a friend accidentally woke us in

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an unrelated event and the house was

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on fire. It was

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a five to 10 minute window we would

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have lost our house

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. The ceiling had just caught fire.

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when I was on

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the phone to 911, I could

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hear the sirens coming.

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the fire and police were exemplary.

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I cannot imagine a

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better situation. People saying their houses

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were

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more destroyed by the water then by fire

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that was not the case .

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they respected our possessions. They

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went above

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and beyond. I would

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like that situation to continue. I

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am very grateful to

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the police and fire and I'm very grateful to

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our 911 dispatch system.

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we could

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not do that if we were controlled.

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thank you

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.

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>> [ applause ]

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>> good morning.

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I live on

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raven court in punta gorda and

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have lived here year-round for 25 years.

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I have seen the city grow and services

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get better and better. I want to

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thank all of you who have volunteered

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your

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time to be representatives of us

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. Working

597
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,400
as a city council person is not an

598
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,400
easy job. And democracy is

599
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,400
hard work. It is also our job,

600
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,400
as public citizens, to let

601
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,400
you know what we need. I want you

602
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,400
to know

603
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,400
that we need to keep our 911 dispatch service.

604
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,400
our police and

605
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,400
fire departments could not provide

606
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,800
better service . They do

607
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,400
that because they can't respond so quickly.

608
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,400
if we did not control the

609
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,400
911 dispatch , they would not have

610
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,400
the time

611
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,400
to do what I personally have observed

612
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,400
,

613
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,400
calming people down when the

614
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,000
paramedics arrived, rather than just go

615
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,400
--for helping

616
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,400
a woman assess

617
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,200
whether she needs to go to the hospital

618
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,400
or they need to get her a cup of coffee

619
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,400
and listen to

620
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,400
her to make she --or she is

621
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,400
stable enough. If they did not have

622
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,400
the quick response

623
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,400
, they would not have the time to

624
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,400
do that.

625
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,400
they would just

626
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,400
have to go to the emergency room.

627
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,400
which means over the bridge

628
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,400
.

629
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,800
[ indiscernible -muffled ] please ensure

630
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,400
you keep our 911

631
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,400
dispatch service so that we can continue

632
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,400
to have a great police

633
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,400
and fire department. Thank you very

634
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,400
much.

635
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,400
>>

636
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,400
[

637
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applause ]

638
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,400
>> my blood pressure is rising . I

639
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,400
have

640
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,400
been living in this town for

641
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,800
20 years and visiting since 1979

642
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:38,400
when my

643
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,400
family started investing in properties

644
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,400
in punta gorda . I helped

645
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,400
--

646
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

647
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,400
in 2013 , an incident occurred which

648
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,400
took me

649
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,400
years to understand why a drug user

650
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,400
terrorizing my life and

651
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,400
chasing me all over the county. Whenever

652
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,400
I went out,

653
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,400
I was terrified, I had

654
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,400
my car blodgett one night when I went

655
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,400
out by druggies.

656
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,400
I believe that was correlated

657
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,400
by a former councilman ,

658
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,000
charles wallace and I oppose anything

659
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,400
connected with the sheriff, I think

660
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,400
he is a criminal who belongs in prison,

661
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,400
detective wagner , they were

662
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,400
supposed to protect me, they did not

663
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,400
, I kept contacting them over and

664
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,400
over again . I was so scared to death

665
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,400
, people were

666
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,400
knocking on my windows. I had to go

667
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,400
around my home at night time to make

668
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,400
sure there

669
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,400
was nobody hanging around my house

670
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,400
trying to get --

671
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,400
so I could get into my home safely. Finally,

672
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,400
I get in touch with wagner who did

673
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,400
not respond to any of my correspondence

674
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,400
and was not available. She was

675
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,400
out sick. Pardon me. I have been

676
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,400
out sick . She left me not protected

677
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,400
for weeks.

678
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,400
I had a cell phone number and reamed him

679
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,000
about no protection. From day one,

680
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,400
when he sent out wagner to my home,

681
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,400
he did not seem to care about what

682
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,400
was

683
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,400
going on. I did not know why

684
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,400
I was being chased around by druggies,

685
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,400
why somebody

686
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,400
acted like they wanted to kill me.

687
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,400
I had

688
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,400
no idea what was going on

689
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,400
I center everything I could possibly

690
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,400
think of who may be mad at

691
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,400
me. Well , they did nothing and

692
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,800
the sheriff and wagner

693
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,400
belong in prison with several

694
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,400
other detectives

695
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,400
. I highly recommend you

696
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,400
do not connect with them in any way,

697
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,400
shape, form, and this is what

698
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,400
we pay so much. Probably almost half

699
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,400
of our revenues, tax revenues

700
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,400
, go to the police department because

701
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:55,400
we do not want to be affiliated with

702
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,400
corruption in the

703
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,400
sheriff's department.

704
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,400
>>

705
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,400
bill page.

706
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,400
I recently had the privilege

707
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,400
of attending the citizens academy

708
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,400
with the

709
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,400
police department. I would like

710
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,400
to commend them on what I saw

711
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,400
as creativity

712
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,400
and making do with what they had available

713
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,400
to them.

714
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,400
the use of the 64 volunteers

715
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,400
and services and values to

716
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,400
the citizens . Recently,

717
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,400
the city --

718
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,400
[ indiscernible -muffled ] I recommend we

719
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,400
look at doing more of this

720
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,800
activities with citizens involvement.

721
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,400
constantly hearing there is a shortage

722
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,400
of resources

723
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,400
for the city.

724
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,400
if you look through the town, you

725
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,400
have a tremendous

726
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,400
talent base. You have folks that have

727
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,400
many years of dealing directly with fema.

728
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,400
you have real estate people

729
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,400
that have developed code.

730
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,800
financial people , purchasing people.

731
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,400
and

732
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,400
for labor.

733
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,400
in

734
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,400
the planning for hurricanes . We have

735
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,400
people set

736
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,800
up on a temporary

737
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,400
--they come back in and help with

738
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,400
the cleanup.

739
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,400
one other thing I would like to

740
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,400
challenge is,

741
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,400
the studies, if we do not have professionals

742
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,400
that are doing their job and know

743
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,400
what the

744
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,400
problems are, why do we need a study

745
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,400
after having

746
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,400
known we have a water meter problem

747
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,400
in 2022

748
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,400
and we

749
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,400
want to now take the time to do a

750
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,400
study? That is ridiculous. If you

751
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,400
do not have

752
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,400
professionals doing the job and do

753
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,400
what the problem is and can address

754
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,400
it, we need to realign our resources.

755
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,400
thank you.

756
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,400
>> [

757
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,400
applause ]

758
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,400
>> good

759
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,400
morning, everybody

760
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,400
. I am a resident of punta gorda .

761
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,400
red tie

762
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,400
, all the way from tampa bay to key west.

763
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,400
and,

764
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,400
somebody made a comment this morning

765
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,400
on my video

766
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,400
. About

767
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,400
all the waters are connected.

768
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,800
I want to say,

769
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,400
I attended the pgi canal meeting

770
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,400
. Dr.

771
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,400
richard whitman personally handed

772
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,400
me

773
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,400
his presentation.

774
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,400
had a very productive meeting. What

775
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,400
I learned in this meeting,

776
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,400
we have

777
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,400
a serious disconnection

778
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,800
from our state legislator,

779
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,400
to the

780
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,400
county commissioner, to the city council,

781
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,400
and to

782
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,400
washington, d.c.

783
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,400
in 2018 , I coined

784
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,400
the phrase

785
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,400
florida water quality crisis . That

786
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,400
is because

787
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,400
, in that time , we have so many

788
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,400
dead sea life and in the

789
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,400
showing up on the east and west coast.

790
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,400
as I speak right now,

791
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,400
littered

792
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,800
with thousands of dead

793
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,400
sea life , not hundreds , thousands.

794
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,400
there is a group out there that is exposing

795
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,800
all the spraying of

796
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,400
the chemicals .

797
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,400
pastor scott wilson

798
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,400
is spearheading this.

799
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,400
dennis lee, who

800
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,800
lives on lake okeechobee

801
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,400
for years. These guys have

802
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,400
exposed all of the

803
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,400
chemicals being sprayed. I will request

804
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,400
that

805
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,800
our city stops spraying

806
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,800
any chemicals anymore on

807
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,400
his quails. Remember

808
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,400
the days when we had guys from the

809
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,000
jail working , send them back out.

810
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,400
the ones on the

811
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,400
behavior and will be released back

812
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,400
into society.

813
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,800
but, this, all these

814
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,400
chemicals , the

815
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,400
toxic pollution I have been talking about

816
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,400
,

817
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,400
the fertilizer, all

818
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,400
tied together.

819
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,400
it has been a long journey but we

820
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,400
will get there.

821
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,400
thank you,

822
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,400
everybody.

823
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,400
>> [ applause

824
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,400
]

825
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,400
>> good afternoon.

826
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,800
my name is mark

827
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,400
. I live on susie street.

828
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,400
the purpose

829
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,400
is to address city council

830
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,400
and the group overall as a whole.

831
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,400
I want to

832
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,400
talk about excellence in healthcare with

833
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,400
punta gorda and preface

834
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,000
this by saying I appreciate , respect,

835
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,400
all of the doctors that take care of

836
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,400
us.

837
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,800
it 926 , my parents moved

838
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,400
--in 1986 ,

839
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,400
my parents moved here. I have

840
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,800
seen the progression. You

841
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,400
look at

842
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,800
lee health, nch, hhs

843
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,400
hospital , I can go down the list

844
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,400
, hospitals we partnered with, this

845
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,400
is

846
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,400
not a self-serving [ indiscernible

847
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,400
-

848
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,400
low volume ] I am a consultant. I

849
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,400
have

850
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,400
20 years administrative expertise.

851
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,400
[ indiscernible

852
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,400
-low volume ]

853
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,400
that was one of my clients in certain locations.

854
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,400
a partial --

855
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,800
[ indiscernible -low volume ] what

856
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,400
does it mean? Right now , as you know

857
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,400
, the ambulance comes ,

858
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,400
they do a great job , the paramedics can

859
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,400
they only can take you to faucet

860
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,000
or the other shore point hospital.

861
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,400
not disparaging them. Recently, we

862
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,400
were

863
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,800
involved in the hhs

864
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,400
hospital.

865
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

866
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,400
] my

867
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,400
question is, what is the

868
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,400
city council [ indiscernible -low

869
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volume

870
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,400
] . Who and what are on the committees?

871
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,400
what

872
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,400
is the engagement with adventist health?

873
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,800
what does asset mean

874
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,400
for punta gorda hospital ? What

875
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,400
is the plan and what is the

876
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,400
local support? Now is the time to

877
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,400
get that

878
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,400
committee together. Adventist health

879
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,400
is

880
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,400
a great company.

881
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,400
first-class healthcare.

882
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,400
very exciting they are going

883
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,400
to be in charlotte county. Right now,

884
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,400
if I have to have my

885
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,400
knee done , I am going to naples ,

886
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,400
if I

887
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,400
have a heart attack probably not going

888
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,400
to

889
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,400
go to the hospitals here, I am

890
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,400
not talking about the doctors , I

891
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,400
am talking about

892
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,400
the facilities. Topic for consideration,

893
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,400
some small way.

894
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,400
thank you for your time.

895
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,400
>>

896
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,400
[ applause ]

897
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,400
>> I will make

898
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,800
a brief comment. We

899
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,400
did meet with

900
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,400
shorepoint

901
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,400
recently and we

902
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,400
understand the crisis we have and

903
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,400
need to be proactive. We have been

904
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,400
talking

905
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,400
about putting together a healthcare

906
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,400
roundtable of

907
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,400
residents, physicians who want

908
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,400
to be involved in fostering this issue

909
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,400
so we

910
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,000
have quality healthcare within the city.

911
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,400
it is on

912
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,400
our radar. We will be reaching out

913
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,400
.

914
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,400
>> we would like to connect.

915
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,400
>> sir,

916
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,800
can you please make

917
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,400
your comments at the mic?

918
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,400
>>

919
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,400
the progression of healthcare

920
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,400
in united states has changed, especially

921
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,400
with what is happening, you

922
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,800
look at prevention , retention,

923
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,400
I can

924
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,800
go down the list.

925
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,400
we are not medical doctors

926
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,400
. We engage with them heavily.

927
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,400
from our standpoint,

928
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,400
they

929
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,400
have direct interaction with patients

930
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,400
and their families.

931
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,400
I think

932
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,800
that committee --anybody can

933
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,400
be there, but the people

934
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,400
doing right now

935
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,400
, for the best healthcare systems

936
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,400
in the

937
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,400
united states,

938
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,400
adventist health , what they bring,

939
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,400
but

940
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,400
, understanding the partial purchase means

941
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,400
, understanding [

942
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,400
indiscernible -muffled ]

943
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,400
. They need a certificate of occupancy,

944
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,400
a cnl, I

945
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,400
would like to be a part of that committee.

946
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,400
I will

947
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,400
stop there. Thank you so much.

948
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,400
>>

949
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,400
jeff

950
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,400
. A letter I sent to

951
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,800
the county commissioners about

952
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,400
steven's reprehensible behavior.

953
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,400
by deposition.

954
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,400
dear county commissioners,

955
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,400
general george s patton was removed

956
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,400
from his command on the third army

957
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,400
during

958
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,400
world war ii for slapping an enlisted

959
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,400
man.

960
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,400
the single incident made

961
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,000
it impossible for them to command

962
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,400
[ indiscernible -muffled ]

963
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,400
while not forced to resign,

964
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,400
[ indiscernible -muffled ]

965
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,400
you

966
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,400
are the de facto boss of the civil service

967
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,400
,

968
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,000
long after your term as commissioner

969
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,400
ends --[

970
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,400
indiscernible -muffled ]

971
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,800
pay raises and promotions.

972
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,400
I know that he has done

973
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,400
a great thing for veterans. That should

974
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,800
not be taken away

975
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,400
from him.

976
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,400
[ indiscernible -muffled

977
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,400
]

978
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,400
in this day

979
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,400
and age,

980
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,400
we must respect everybody's

981
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,800
diversity, equity, and inclusion.

982
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,400
make city workers uncomfortable in

983
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,400
the workplace.

984
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,400
thank you very much. If you could,

985
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,800
send a letter to

986
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,400
the commissioners. That would be greatly

987
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,400
appreciated.

988
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,400
thank you.

989
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,400
>> mike,

990
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,400
punta gorda .

991
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,400
approval of 120 --

992
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,400
storage facility

993
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,400
[ indiscernible -muffled ] prior

994
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,400
to that, the county

995
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,400
approved the 99,000 square foot keeps

996
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,400
swap facility north

997
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,400
of jones loop, and the scenic view

998
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,400
storage facility

999
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,400
containing 145,000 square feet.

1000
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,400
these three projects will bring approximately

1001
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,400
345,000 square feet of self storage space

1002
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,400
into an already saturated market.

1003
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,400
there is currently approximately 320,000

1004
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,400
square feet of self storage space

1005
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,400
in the

1006
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,400
area which

1007
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,400
equates to approximately 16 square

1008
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,400
feet per

1009
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,400
city resident.

1010
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,400
the development of these two facilities

1011
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,400
that are proposed will increase the

1012
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,400
supply of

1013
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,400
self storage in the city of punta

1014
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,400
gorda by over 100%.

1015
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,400
to 33

1016
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,400
square feet per capita.

1017
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,400
to build that into context, the city --

1018
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,400
implemented a moratorium on self storage space

1019
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,400
with the supply

1020
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,400
of self storage development

1021
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,400
at 10 square feet per resident. We

1022
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,400
have

1023
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,400
three times

1024
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,400
, okay? We will have three times that

1025
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,400
amount of

1026
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,400
space. Okay? These two elements

1027
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,400
-- okay? This

1028
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,400
should require a

1029
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,000
feasibility study to determine their impact

1030
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,400
and what it will have on

1031
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,400
the greater market and whether it

1032
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,400
is feasible.

1033
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,400
[ indiscernible -muffled ]

1034
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,400
the repurposing of the structures

1035
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,400
, if they are not successful,

1036
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,400
is very [ indiscernible ]

1037
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,400
. A project of this size

1038
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,400
should have been a decision made by

1039
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,400
the city council and not staff. Okay?

1040
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,400
we are not the county

1041
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,400
. We have a limited number of sites, especially

1042
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,400
on that road.

1043
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,400
this is one of the largest

1044
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,400
[ indiscernible ] . Originally proposed

1045
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,400
for a

1046
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,400
car wash

1047
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,400
, okay? Now, they will put a self

1048
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,400
storage facility on

1049
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,600
it. That would not have been allowed

1050
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,800
without the special exception.

1051
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,400
they did not have a right.

1052
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,400
they had no investment expectations

1053
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,400
of the self storage facility.

1054
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,800
that was staff recommendation.

1055
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,400
we need to think.

1056
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,400
we have a limited number of parcels

1057
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,400
left

1058
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,400
on 41. Two of them right now

1059
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,400
are proposed for a carwash

1060
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,400
were proposed for a carwash, what

1061
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,000
is next to the fire station.

1062
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,400
[ indiscernible ] thank you

1063
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,400
.

1064
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,400
>> [

1065
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,400
applause ]

1066
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,400
>> good morning.

1067
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,400
[ indiscernible -muffled

1068
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,400
] you think I am here

1069
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,400
to speak about pickleball courts,

1070
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,400
but I am not. [ laughter ]

1071
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,400
couple weeks ago, there was a watering

1072
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,400
restriction

1073
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,400
in punta gorda . I understand

1074
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,400
drinking water is more important that

1075
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,400
our lawns. Can you continue

1076
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,400
to provide updates on your website

1077
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,400
as to what

1078
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,400
is being done to remove

1079
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,000
that watering restriction at some point

1080
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,400
? Also, be able

1081
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,400
to accommodate all the new development

1082
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,400
that is happening

1083
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,400
in our town because

1084
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,400
there is a great deal of development.

1085
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,800
not only large developments,

1086
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,800
but individual residential developments

1087
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,800
, so , what are we

1088
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,800
doing to ensure one

1089
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,400
year, two , 10 years out ,

1090
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,400
we have leaking water for ourselves

1091
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,400
and

1092
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,000
the ability to maintain our landscaping

1093
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,800
and filling our pools?

1094
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,400
if you can speak to what

1095
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,400
is being done right now, I appreciate

1096
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,400
it, or provide updates on

1097
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,400
the website.

1098
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,400
>>

1099
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,400
[ applause ]

1100
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,400
>>

1101
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,800
my name is ed,

1102
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,400
resident of punta gorda .

1103
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,400
I was going to listen but I agree,

1104
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,400
our drinking water is super

1105
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,400
important, and

1106
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,400
the water that comes from the river

1107
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,400
is very important and

1108
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,400
we have a serious about the filter system.

1109
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,400
it

1110
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,400
gets dark . The sediment we have in

1111
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,400
our water systems is terrible . I

1112
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,400
am embarrassed.

1113
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,400
water

1114
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,000
main breakage a couple weeks ago.

1115
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,400
I believe they did not repair it

1116
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,400
for hours. I could be wrong.

1117
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,400
we have to take our water seriously.

1118
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,400
the pressure

1119
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,400
, the day before the break, was up

1120
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,400
to 75 meters high

1121
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,400
.

1122
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,400
did we break it

1123
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,400
, the city? Why was the pressure high?

1124
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,400
maybe I

1125
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,400
am crazy, but our drinking water is

1126
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,400
lousy and it used to be better. Thank you.

1127
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,400
>>

1128
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,400
>> anybody else want to speak this

1129
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,400
morning? Thank

1130
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,400
you for your comments. Those wishing

1131
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,400
to

1132
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,400
introduce themselves for nominees

1133
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,400
for a board committee may do so at

1134
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,400
this time those who choose to speak

1135
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,400
must take

1136
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,400
their name for the record.

1137
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,400
anyone?

1138
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,400
I am sorry.

1139
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,400
>> I

1140
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,400
will try to keep the short . I

1141
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,400
am running for the ultimate position

1142
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,400
of the planning and zoning board.

1143
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,400
that

1144
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,400
is a position I currently hold.

1145
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,400
I have some experience from up north

1146
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,400
, as

1147
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,400
city council persons, I do not envy

1148
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,400
you

1149
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,400
at all.

1150
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,400
I was on the planning commission and

1151
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,400
development commission.

1152
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,800
I hope you consider

1153
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,400
me.

1154
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,800
I am a snowbird.

1155
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,400
thank you.

1156
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,400
>> thank you, sir.

1157
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,400
anybody else?

1158
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,400
public hearing agenda , there is

1159
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,400
none.

1160
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,400
orson it's --ordinance

1161
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,400
and resolution, the next on the list is

1162
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,400
consent agenda.

1163
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,400
[

1164
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,400
indiscernible -low volume ]

1165
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,400
>>

1166
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,400
second.

1167
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,400
>> all those in favor? >> aye. >> opposed? >>

1168
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,400
motion carries.

1169
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ] our agenda,

1170
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,800
we will start with

1171
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,400
911 dispatch.

1172
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,400
>>

1173
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,400
chief

1174
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,400
of punta gorda

1175
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:22,400
postponement not sure if you want

1176
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,400
me to start

1177
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,400
up with some talking points I put together.

1178
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,400
I want to start off

1179
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,400
by saying we have a great partnership

1180
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,800
with the fire department

1181
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,400
and with the county. This

1182
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,400
is about our 911 center. I am

1183
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:43,400
talking about how good I believe our

1184
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,400
911

1185
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,400
center is. I cannot speak

1186
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,400
from the fire chief, we believe

1187
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,400
we are doing things great

1188
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:55,400
and we're serving our citizens the

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00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,400
way

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00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,400
they want to be served. The

1191
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,400
police were , we have a community

1192
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,400
policing philosophy, at every level,

1193
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,400
when you call our 911 dispatch,

1194
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,400
you are getting community policing.

1195
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,400
they will treat you as they were

1196
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,400
treating one of their own family members.

1197
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,400
to get a history of how this

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00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,400
came about,

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00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:26,400
ever

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00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,400
since I have been here, the sheriff

1201
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,400
has mentioned

1202
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,400
it would be nice to consolidate. I

1203
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,400
feel like we do a

1204
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,400
great job and I would like to --

1205
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,400
[ indiscernible ] .

1206
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,400
in 2023, the sheriff

1207
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,400
wrote a letter to all the city council

1208
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,400
members saying the city

1209
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,400
commissioners, with reasons why he

1210
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,800
felt we needed to

1211
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,400
consolidate. One was because of the incident

1212
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,400
february 24th , 2018 .

1213
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,800
he believed we were

1214
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,400
[ indiscernible ]

1215
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,400
I feel very confident we are in

1216
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,400
full compliance and I spoke to the

1217
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,400
chairman of

1218
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:13,400
the commission, he agrees that we

1219
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,400
are

1220
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,400
in compliance . One of the things

1221
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,400
he said,

1222
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,400
he wanted to go a step further, consolidate

1223
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,400
our computer aided dispatch with

1224
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,400
the sheriff's. Each agency

1225
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,400
could see what is going on with the

1226
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,400
other agency. The

1227
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,400
sheriff --I will backup

1228
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,400
, at the time the letter was written,

1229
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,400
arguing all

1230
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,400
the different things , including our

1231
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,000
great response times that are faster

1232
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,400
than the response times with the sheriff

1233
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,400
and fire

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00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,400
and county,

1235
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,400
they have talented dispatchers and

1236
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:50,400
we have

1237
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,400
talented dispatchers, just the way

1238
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,400
we control our

1239
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,400
dispatch center where we can change

1240
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,400
things up to make sure we are responding faster

1241
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,400
,

1242
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:01,400
particularly our fire department out.

1243
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,400
one of

1244
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,400
the concerns we brought up, we trace

1245
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,800
our ems calls, to

1246
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,400
the county.

1247
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,400
however, each

1248
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,800
engine at each of

1249
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,400
our stations is equipped with advanced

1250
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,400
life support and they have a paramedic

1251
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,400
on it.

1252
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,800
we are still sending

1253
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,400
each call , each

1254
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:31,400
medical call our fire department goes

1255
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,400
out

1256
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,400
and therefore, you are getting a paramedic

1257
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,400
to your call.

1258
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,400
which means there is no issue with

1259
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,400
that life

1260
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,400
, we do

1261
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,400
not have a paramedic,

1262
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,400
the ms will, do the transfer after that.

1263
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,400
--ems will do the transfer

1264
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,400
after the.

1265
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:55,400
they are going at the same time we

1266
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,400
are

1267
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,400
going anyways.

1268
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,400
so, couple

1269
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,400
of pros , I do not know

1270
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,400
if you want to speak.

1271
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,400
>>

1272
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,400
fire chief. So, with that,

1273
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,800
with our dispatch times

1274
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,400
, we have worked really hard .

1275
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,400
by getting minimal

1276
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,800
information, police , fire , ems,

1277
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,400
before that,

1278
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,400
they will grab the address.

1279
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,400
yes,

1280
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,400
they may have to repeat the address

1281
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,800
to the ems dispatcher,

1282
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,400
we are not ems , we

1283
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,400
really are, we are just not the

1284
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,400
ambulance service and transport. Emts

1285
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,400
and paramedics

1286
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,400
, sometimes multiple on the

1287
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,400
scene apparatus. We will provide the

1288
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,400
same level of

1289
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,400
care for those initial moments.

1290
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,400
it is important we get out

1291
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,400
there quickly. We

1292
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,400
are almost twice as fast as accounting

1293
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,400
and getting

1294
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,000
out ems people out the door.

1295
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,400
I am not sure if

1296
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,400
they mimic the same thing

1297
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,400
if we partnered with the county.

1298
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,400
but they asked a lot more questions

1299
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,800
before they dispatch units.

1300
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,400
>>

1301
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,400
the sheriff cited

1302
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,800
officer safety , resident safety,

1303
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,400
one central location,

1304
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:40,400
if they know what is going on throughout

1305
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,400
the entire county.

1306
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,400
we do monitor their officers with

1307
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,400
scanner channels.

1308
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,400
[ indiscernible ] there

1309
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,400
are two centers.

1310
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,400
when you are talking about

1311
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,400
things --if an alert goes off, a panic

1312
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,400
alert at school, he goes to

1313
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,400
their center so the county is aware.

1314
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,400
some of

1315
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,400
the things expressed

1316
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,400
as concerns , I am telling you,

1317
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,400
I am not concerned about. If you

1318
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,400
start to say that we should always

1319
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,400
be connected

1320
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,400
to people on our boards,

1321
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,400
[ indiscernible ]

1322
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,400
. You go down the rabbit hole.

1323
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,400
we are confident our dispatchers know

1324
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,400
our citizens , no our frequent callers

1325
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,400
, no our landmarks

1326
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,400
.

1327
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,400
[ indiscernible ]

1328
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,400
I will bring up one more point,

1329
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,400
hurricane lee --

1330
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,400
hurricane helene , flooding

1331
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,400
, to get into

1332
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,400
pgi

1333
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,400
and it flooded

1334
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,400
--

1335
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,400
we have calls

1336
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,400
stacked up. When you normally --

1337
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,400
[ indiscernible ]

1338
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,400
we were able

1339
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,400
to go after

1340
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,400
[ indiscernible ]

1341
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,800
. Group those calls [ indiscernible

1342
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,400
] .

1343
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:50,200
take all these calls from the historic district.

1344
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,400
at [

1345
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,400
indiscernible -background noise ] .

1346
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:02,400
the bridges are closed, how would

1347
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,400
we go

1348
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,400
over there?

1349
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:07,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

1350
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,400
]

1351
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:22,400
we go through staffing crisis sometimes

1352
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,800
just like any other

1353
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,400
dispatch center.

1354
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,400
right now, this has

1355
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,400
caused a lot of anxiety for our employees.

1356
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,400
so, we are dealing with

1357
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,400
that right now. Any questions?

1358
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,400
>>

1359
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,400
melissa lockhart for the record.

1360
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

1361
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,400
] the only

1362
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,400
con is staffing, any department

1363
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,400
anywhere. For

1364
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:09,400
transparency , I had

1365
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,400
a conversation with the sheriff and said,

1366
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:12,400
I cannot

1367
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,400
support this because of these concerns.

1368
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,400
at the end of the day,

1369
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,400
the commissioners and the councilmembers

1370
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,400
, we are not the experts. We do not

1371
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,400
know the ins and outs

1372
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,400
of how the

1373
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,400
systems work, until you can tell

1374
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:33,400
me how

1375
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,400
you and our chiefs will sit down at

1376
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:36,400
a roundtable and discuss all

1377
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:37,400
of our concerns, I cannot support

1378
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:38,400
doing this, it will not be conducive

1379
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,400
for

1380
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,400
our residents. I did not

1381
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:44,400
get a feeling the sheriff was going

1382
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,400
to

1383
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:47,400
be willing to have this roundtable

1384
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,400
and that concerns

1385
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,400
me as well. What also concerns me,

1386
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,400
they

1387
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,400
were asking --

1388
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:56,400
city council at the time, the chief said

1389
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,400
,

1390
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,400
we will stick with what we have. Fast-forward

1391
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,400
to december,

1392
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,400
the sheriff goes to

1393
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,400
the commissioners and has a very compelling story,

1394
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:09,400
if I heard it

1395
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,000
, I would say, this sounds great.

1396
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,400
I do not support this.

1397
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,400
I support keeping it local. Everything

1398
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,400
you said , redundancy , almost twice

1399
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,400
as fast as far as our calls , grouping

1400
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,400
those calls in certain situations.

1401
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,800
>> you talk about redundancy ,

1402
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,400
hurricane ian ,

1403
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:36,400
calls coming in

1404
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

1405
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,400
]

1406
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,400
the fact we

1407
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,400
have redundancy in the system,

1408
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

1409
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,400
]

1410
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,400
>>

1411
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,800
you discussed this before.

1412
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,000
you do the extra stuff, too.

1413
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

1414
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,400
]

1415
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,400
changing our batteries in our

1416
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,400
fire alarms.

1417
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,400
we are very spoiled in that respect.

1418
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,400
>>

1419
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,400
we tailor

1420
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,400
our departments to the needs of our citizens.

1421
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,400
>>

1422
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

1423
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,400
]

1424
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,400
>>

1425
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,000
what he said this morning --

1426
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:47,400
[ indiscernible -muffled ] you know

1427
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,400
our landmarks.

1428
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,400
we are an older population. Is there

1429
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,400
going to be different if we have an

1430
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,400
entire county

1431
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,400
?

1432
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,400
thank you so much for all you do.

1433
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,400
>> we had a

1434
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,400
similar conversation. I do not see

1435
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:08,400
the need to fix something that is

1436
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,400
not broken.

1437
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,400
>> melissa lockhart . There

1438
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,400
is my concern . Time is of the essence

1439
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,400
because we are hearing from dispatch.

1440
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:20,400
it is interrupting our daily services

1441
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,400
now. There is

1442
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:23,400
this looming , can it happen, is it

1443
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,400
going to happen?

1444
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,400
to put our chiefs at ease

1445
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:30,400
and dispatchers at ease

1446
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,400
, to go on with business as usual,

1447
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,400
with the continuing

1448
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,800
of the hiring process,

1449
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,400
I personally would like to see

1450
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,400
that we have a consensus , whatever

1451
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,400
we need

1452
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,400
to do, to take a stand , if that is

1453
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,400
what we would like to do, to say,

1454
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,400
no, we will

1455
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,400
keep it. And

1456
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:54,400
confirm it.

1457
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,400
>>

1458
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,400
janis denton.

1459
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,400
do we have the authority to keep the

1460
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,400
dispatch service?

1461
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:09,400
we want to keep our personalized service.

1462
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,400
the

1463
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,400
only advantage I can see it saving

1464
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,400
$1.2 million.

1465
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,400
our citizens want to cut costs.

1466
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,400
I am

1467
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,400
in agreement .

1468
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,400
>>

1469
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,800
david levin , city attorney.

1470
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,400
the regulation, cited

1471
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,400
support of consolidation,

1472
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,400
I am 100% satisfied we have the

1473
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,400
authority to adopt our own

1474
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,800
911 system. We may not

1475
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,400
be able to get money from

1476
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,000
the county , not by legal means,

1477
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:57,400
compel that

1478
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,400
by willing to fund it ourselves, we

1479
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,400
have the authority.

1480
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:04,400
>> janis denton.

1481
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,400
do we have to continue to pay the sheriff

1482
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,400
when we are double playing,

1483
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,400
in a sense ?

1484
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,400
>> well

1485
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,400
, yes, the sheriff is funded

1486
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,800
through that statutory mechanism.

1487
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,800
nothing in the statute

1488
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,400
--handing me the

1489
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,400
actual citation.

1490
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,400
this was my 3:00 a.m. Legal opinion.

1491
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,400
there is nothing in section

1492
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,800
356 .172 that said the county

1493
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,400
should be paying

1494
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,400
dispatch.

1495
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,800
nothing in the statute

1496
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,400
which indicates an intent by the

1497
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,400
florida legislature

1498
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ].

1499
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,800
the county has responsibilities

1500
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,400
regarding 911.

1501
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:08,000
under the florida constitution , case law

1502
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,400
, in the absence

1503
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,800
of an espresso prohibition

1504
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,400
--

1505
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ].

1506
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,400
>> do you want a decision today?

1507
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,400
I make a motion we keep our

1508
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:30,400
911 dispatch center .

1509
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,400
>>

1510
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:33,400
second .

1511
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,400
>>

1512
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:36,400
all in favor?

1513
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,400
>>

1514
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:39,400
aye.

1515
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,400
>>

1516
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:42,400
anybody opposed ?

1517
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,400
>> motion

1518
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:45,400
carries.

1519
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,400
>> [ applause ]

1520
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,400
>> the next

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01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,400
is [ indiscernible -muffled

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01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,400
] .

1523
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,400
>>

1524
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:15,400
6.a.

1525
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,400
>> thank you.

1526
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,400
rules of procedure

1527
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,400
draft, rules one through ten.

1528
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,400
>> should

1529
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:18,000
we take a quick 10 minute break ?

1530
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,400
thank you

1531
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,400
very much.

1532
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,400
[ indiscernible -muffled ]

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01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,400
I am

1534
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,600
hoping we can look at the first 10.

1535
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,400
rule one --

1536
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:01,400
do you want

1537
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,400
me to read each of these or do you

1538
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,800
want to make comments?

1539
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,400
>>

1540
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:11,400
make comments.

1541
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:12,400
>> any comments on

1542
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,400
rule one?

1543
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,400
we will

1544
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,400
leave that one. Any comments on rule two?

1545
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,400
rule three, regarding

1546
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,000
regular city council meetings. Any comments?

1547
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,400
>> hang on.

1548
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,400
I do not think everybody

1549
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,600
has the rules in front of them.

1550
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,800
anybody for rule three?

1551
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,600
>> rule two? >> we just talked about it.

1552
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,800
>> is everybody good with

1553
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:22,400
rule two?

1554
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,400
>> I am good. >> yes. >>

1555
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,400
rule three.

1556
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,400
regarding city

1557
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,400
council meetings.

1558
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,400
a question whether council could have

1559
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,400
evening meetings.

1560
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,400
is everyone

1561
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:46,400
in favor of that change?

1562
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,400
>>

1563
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,400
yes.

1564
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,400
still in rule three,

1565
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

1566
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,400
]

1567
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,400
. How

1568
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,800
does the council feel

1569
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,400
about that ?

1570
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,400
>>

1571
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:19,400
could you read that one more time?

1572
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,400
>>

1573
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

1574
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,400
] adjustments to meetings

1575
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,400
, locations or

1576
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:31,400
time.

1577
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,400
>>

1578
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,400
we do not always see the email.

1579
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,400
we do see texts more often

1580
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:40,400
.

1581
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,400
>>

1582
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,400
melissa lockhart.

1583
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

1584
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:57,400
>> you need to forward the text messages

1585
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,400
so we

1586
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,400
can archive that.

1587
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,400
>> city attorney ,

1588
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,400
concerned

1589
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

1590
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,400
procedural items ,

1591
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:21,400
I would like to double check that

1592
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,400
.

1593
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,400
>>

1594
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:31,600
we will come back to that one.

1595
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,400
03 .4

1596
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,400
--rule 3.4 --

1597
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

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01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,400
]

1599
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,400
's

1600
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:53,400
>> [ indiscernible -background

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01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:54,400
noise

1602
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,400
]

1603
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

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01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,400
]

1605
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,400
>> we suggested

1606
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,400
the agenda be posted

1607
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,600
the afternoon following the city council meeting.

1608
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,400
you have two agendas out there

1609
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,800
at the same time.

1610
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,400
>> is council okay

1611
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:27,400
with making the changes as discussed

1612
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,400
yesterday?

1613
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,400
>> yes.

1614
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,400
>>

1615
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,800
when it comes to

1616
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,400
staff, I know that we will try to not

1617
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,400
have the

1618
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:45,400
minister to the agenda , posting so

1619
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,400
far out,

1620
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,400
I am okay

1621
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,400
with that.

1622
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,400
as long as it does not go up to

1623
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,000
the deadline. From his top perspective,

1624
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,400
they should have some leeway .

1625
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,400
>> I do

1626
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,400
want to suggest for the agenda process

1627
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,400
, we would not

1628
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,800
add new topics [ indiscernible

1629
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,400
-low volume ]

1630
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,400
[ indiscernible -background

1631
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,400
noise ]

1632
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,400
we want to

1633
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,400
make sure staff has all documentation

1634
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,400
and not be

1635
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,400
having items

1636
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

1637
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,400
>> melissa.

1638
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,400
whatever

1639
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:51,400
is added to the agenda , sometimes

1640
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,400
something

1641
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,400
needs to be added , I am

1642
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,800
okay with that. Sometimes

1643
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,400
, staff says , new information has

1644
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,400
come out. Not

1645
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:06,400
getting all the information we need,

1646
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,400
adding

1647
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:13,000
to something already on the agenda.

1648
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:19,400
does that make sense?

1649
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:20,400
>>

1650
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:21,400
we would like to hear your feedback.

1651
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,400
if

1652
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,400
we change

1653
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,800
, is that in the

1654
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,400
best interest in the community

1655
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,400
? They do not have all the information.

1656
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,400
if we make a change on sunday

1657
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:41,400
evening, if there is an issue with

1658
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:45,000
the documents that have been posted,

1659
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,400
half staff

1660
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,400
suggest amended information

1661
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:54,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ].

1662
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,400
>> melissa.

1663
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,400
the other things,

1664
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,400
not having all the information

1665
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,400
--

1666
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,400
[ indiscernible -low

1667
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,800
volume ] that document was

1668
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,400
too big, we do not have time,

1669
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,400
we need to

1670
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:19,400
table it.

1671
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,400
>> which is great,

1672
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:22,400
three-month out schedule which gives

1673
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,400
staff

1674
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,400
enough time to be prepared.

1675
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,800
some things will happen.

1676
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,400
it is

1677
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,400
too much.

1678
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,400
>>

1679
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,400
recommendation

1680
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,400
made must [ indiscernible -low volume

1681
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,400
]

1682
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,400
>> 's

1683
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,400
--so

1684
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:55,400
the public knows in advance.

1685
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,400
>>

1686
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

1687
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,400
but at least

1688
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,400
you would have that there.

1689
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

1690
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,400
] that is a

1691
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,400
really good idea.

1692
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,400
>> melissa,

1693
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

1694
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,400
>>

1695
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:53,400
we like to get direction

1696
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,400
on this , these are the reasons why

1697
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,800
we like it, these

1698
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,400
are the cons.

1699
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,400
I think that helps educate us as

1700
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:05,400
well.

1701
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:06,400
>> isn't

1702
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:10,400
that what we do at council meetings?

1703
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,400
>>

1704
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

1705
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,400
>> melissa .

1706
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,400
[ indiscernible -low

1707
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:23,400
volume ]

1708
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

1709
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,400
]

1710
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,400
quote will be

1711
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,400
looking for his direction on

1712
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:34,400
--what we will be looking for his

1713
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,400
direction on

1714
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:43,400
a, b, and c. Giving staff more work to

1715
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:44,400
do.

1716
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:45,400
>>

1717
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:49,400
I think they do a good job of being

1718
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,400
pretty objective.

1719
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,400
we listen

1720
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,400
and may say yes or no.

1721
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,400
maybe it is case by case.

1722
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,400
>>

1723
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,400
4.1.1.,

1724
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:15,400
the last sentence.

1725
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,400
>> still on three.

1726
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,400
[ laughter ]

1727
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,400
>> melissa.

1728
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:26,400
can I

1729
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:28,400
suggest, set in motion or direction

1730
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,400
,

1731
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:34,400
consensus on how we feel about pros

1732
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,400
or cons?

1733
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,400
in certain cases, when it comes to

1734
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,400
different things they're talking about

1735
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,400
[ indiscernible -low

1736
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,400
volume ] . Showing the public what

1737
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:50,400
direction you ask for council [ indiscernible

1738
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,400
-

1739
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,400
low volume ] .

1740
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,400
>> [ indiscernible -background

1741
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,400
noise ]

1742
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,400
>> a

1743
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,400
consensus --[ indiscernible

1744
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,400
-background noise ]

1745
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,400
>> [ indiscernible -background noise

1746
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,400
] that

1747
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,400
is completely up to you.

1748
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,400
subject to change

1749
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,400
.

1750
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,400
city council has either approved,

1751
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

1752
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,400
]

1753
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:29,400
>>

1754
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

1755
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,400
]

1756
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:50,400
it

1757
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,400
could still be held as an emergency

1758
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:53,400
meeting.

1759
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,400
>>

1760
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:56,400
yes.

1761
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,400
>> yes. >>

1762
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,400
for 3.7,

1763
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:01,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

1764
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,400
]

1765
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,400
>> rule 4,

1766
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,800
special city council meetings,

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01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,400
rule 4.1.1, 4.1.2, if

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you have questions or comments?

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01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,400
sorry, mr.

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01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:38,400
levin?

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01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,400
>>

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4.1.1.,

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the last sentence special

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meetings may be held 24 hours

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[ indiscernible -background noise

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] .

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>> rule number five

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considering emergency council meetings.

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01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,400
[ indiscernible -background

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noise ]

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01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:26,400
>> [ indiscernible -background

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noise ]

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>>

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deborah lux for the record.

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5.1

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falls into emergency meeting

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[ indiscernible -background noise

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].

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>> you put

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special needs, nonemergency ?

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>>

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I will make that change.

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>>

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emergency meetings , not special meetings.

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>> I can do that. A

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suggestion for

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4.2?

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how does council feel about that?

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>>

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melissa.

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4.2 for special meetings?

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>> yes. >>

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[ indiscernible -background noise

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] .

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>>

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4.3,

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]

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>> rule 5,

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emergency city

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council meetings. Any questions?

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[ indiscernible -low volume ]

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>>

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debbie lux, on your powerpoint,

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you did include

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the rules .

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5.4.1, not listed.

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it is

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okay.

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>> next page,

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it was so long.

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>> thank you.

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>>

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did you have a question

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, councilmember julian ?

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>>

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no.

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>> any questions? 5.4, a suggestion

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,

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.

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rule 6,

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comments or questions?

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moving on to

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rule seven, comments or

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questions?

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rule 8, presiding

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officer,

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comments or questions?

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do you need a moment to catch

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up?

1842
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>> no. >> rule nine. >>

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tonight backup

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, this is mayor julian?

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--

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can I backup,

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this is mayor julian?

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[ indiscernible -muffled

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]

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>> it

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would be the board members .

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>> any comments or questions about

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rule nine? Rule 10

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is very similar.

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comments or questions?

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I will make

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the changes from today. [ indiscernible

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>>

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I like 10

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, not to lose the audience's

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attention.

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ten is perfect for me.

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>> agree. >> that

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works.

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>>

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all right,

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thank you.

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>>

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I will bring 10 back at the march

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meeting.

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>>

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taking out things --

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>> yes.

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thank

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you.

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>>

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next

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,

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carollo engineers

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to

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develop the 2025 hydro biological

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monitoring report for

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shell creek reservoir.

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>> city council , master agreement

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, hearing services

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the rights for a negotiating future

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, staff requested a proposal

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based on the negotiated hourly rates

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of

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the engineers to provide services

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to develop and

1895
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provide the 2025 hydro biological

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monitoring

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report to provide information

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to ensure that the physical

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, environmental ,

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biological communities of the shell creek

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and

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river system continue to not be

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significantly

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impacted

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from water withdrawals

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with the total cost is

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$74,640 --

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the time

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to complete it is six months

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. Staff is

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recommending approval.

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>>

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>> any questions?

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>> I moved to

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--

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I move to approve.

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>> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >>

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any opposed?

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motion carries. Thank you. Next on the

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agenda is urban

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qualification and interlocal agreement.

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>> good morning .

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human services director for charlotte county,

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sara welch.

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good morning

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. I wanted to take the opportunity

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to

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talk a little bit about the

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qualification process and

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community development block grant.

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it is an acronym,

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cdbg,

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want to make sure we're all on the

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same

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page while we are discussing.

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01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,400
you indicated

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01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:29,400
your desire [ indiscernible -background

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we are very excited about,

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once we entered into the agreement,

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he advised that

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he would align the contract with her

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fiscal year. What that means,

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we have the interlocal agreement with

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you as well. A good

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opportunity to review

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the need .

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what is urban qualification? A process,

1952
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:08,400
a process that means that the

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federal government , within had ,

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housing

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and urban development, we as a

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01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,400
community have reached a population growth,

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01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,400
200,000 , as a community

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. They're recognizing

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, a bigger community

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, bigger community issues,

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01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,400
the capacity to handle our own

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01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,400
direct funding obligation .

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01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,400
as a part of that,

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01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,400
the population threshold, there is

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01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:43,400
the consolidated plan.

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also

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an action plan, and hud

1968
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,400
has to agree that we

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01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:54,400
have said, we know about ourselves

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and this

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is what we do with funding.

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so,

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here is why all this matters. Once

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hud

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has agreed we are entitled

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, we would be

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--they are saying,

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you are big enough , you can

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handle that funding we could give you.

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the way that starts is with the

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cdbg , community development

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01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:29,000
block grant , that stream of funding

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means it could

1984
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,400
be used for infrastructure, economic development

1985
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,800
, individual assistance , but targeted

1986
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:42,400
to low and moderate income residents. But,

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01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:44,400
the doors open

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01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:48,400
to other funding from hud .

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intentionally,

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01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,400
affordable housing with us, we

1991
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,400
look at the program to very

1992
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,400
specific tools, money

1993
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:00,400
we would get directly from hud , a tool

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in

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01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,400
our toolkit. There is some

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urgency solutions,

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[ indiscernible -low volume ] .

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I want to draw your attention to the

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second one, community health and block

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01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:17,400
grant disaster program.

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what that means,

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if we

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did not get that, we are not entitled.

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[ indiscernible -low volume ]

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a direct application of cdbg and arpa .

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$200 after hurricane

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--$200 million

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01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,400
after hurricane

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ian. We received

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support from the state,

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01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,800
and that runs through

2012
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florida commerce and they decide how

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01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:06,400
many dollars will be spent.

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I don't know about you ,

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01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:12,400
but I like to have more control.

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01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:14,400
the community development

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block grant ,

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01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,400
our allocation from hud , we

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would receive a little over $1 million annually

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for this process.

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01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,400
$1,047,000.

2022
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based

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01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,400
on population, they look at

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01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:36,400
all the information we provide them

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01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,400
and they have a

2026
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:39,400
detailed formula that they use. That

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01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,400
funding is

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01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,400
a great opportunity for

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us to make the necessary programs

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for

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our citizens.

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that is what I wanted to say.

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an excellent opportunity

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for us to have a say

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in how we decide our community uses

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its resources.

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the interlocal agreement you all have

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is

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a requirement,

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[ indiscernible -background noise

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] .

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01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,400
bless you. It

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01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:24,000
ensures it is equitable, fair for

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01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,800
everybody . It is a

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01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:30,400
three-year contract and we take on

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01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,400
the administrative duty.

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01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:38,200
we want this to be a collaborative effort.

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01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:44,400
the consolidated plan,

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[ indiscernible -background

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noise ]

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01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,400
you

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can see the housing [ indiscernible

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-background noise

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] .

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what are our needs specifically?

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we want to

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look at the housing market.

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01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,800
how does that affect

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our inventory? Specifically

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, a strategic plan.

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how will we use these funds?

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community involvement is a

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huge piece.

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a ton of

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citizen engagement.

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01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,400
obviously,

2067
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:50,400
they are monitoring ,

2068
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:57,400
anytime you do with the federal government

2069
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,400
, they will monitor your performance.

2070
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:05,800
the first allocation of

2071
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:08,800
funding from the cdbg

2072
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:11,400
is $1 million.

2073
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:18,400
it needs to benefit low and moderate

2074
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,400
income residents.

2075
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,400
the citizens of the community come

2076
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:28,200
together and say, this needs to be used

2077
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

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01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,400
] .

2079
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,800
it can be used

2080
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,400
for housing. Assistance.

2081
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,400
it has to

2082
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,800
be for targeted residents.

2083
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:54,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

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01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:56,400
]

2085
01:42:57,400 --> 01:42:59,800
the projected timeline , again,

2086
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:05,400
relatively set .

2087
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,400
we want to

2088
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,400
get to a point

2089
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:12,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

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01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:14,400
]

2091
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,400
it does take a tremendous amount of effort

2092
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,400
.

2093
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:33,400
essentially , what we are looking

2094
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:35,800
for today, a better

2095
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:38,800
preside or to participate

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01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:44,800
--[ indiscernible -background noise

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01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,400
]

2098
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,400
we want to be able to

2099
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,400
work together.

2100
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,400
any questions?

2101
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,800
>> I have some questions.

2102
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:09,400
I know the sales tax

2103
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:12,400
is dispersed based on population,

2104
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:15,400
is this how this money?

2105
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:17,400
>> yes. Different formulas

2106
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:20,400
, go

2107
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:23,400
back to

2108
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,800
--hud gives this money

2109
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:29,400
--cdbg

2110
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:32,400
,

2111
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:37,400
that will be awarded after a federally

2112
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,400
declared disaster.

2113
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,400
in terms of the block grant,

2114
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:44,800
based on population thresholds,

2115
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:46,400
each of these programs have specific

2116
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,400
things they

2117
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:51,400
look at. When we create them

2118
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:54,400
, we have present the housing

2119
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:56,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

2120
01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,800
] . They get to choose

2121
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,400
that information

2122
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:05,400
and work

2123
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:06,400
based on how much affordable housing

2124
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,400
we have.

2125
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:13,000
they will look at the percentage.

2126
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:22,600
we look at the community, the housing.

2127
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:27,800
all very specific formulas.

2128
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:35,600
population is a huge part of it.

2129
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:41,600
we will not get all of this.

2130
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:46,000
different aspects as we move through.

2131
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:48,400
>> if the county receives

2132
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:49,400
the money , how are you dispersing

2133
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:51,400
it

2134
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:52,400
in the city?

2135
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,400
>> not dispersed to the city,

2136
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:00,600
just like we do other interlocal agreements.

2137
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,800
our state housing initiatives,

2138
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

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01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:09,400
].

2140
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,800
I think I put

2141
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:18,400
it on one of these slides. We have

2142
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,400
to make the decision collaboratively.

2143
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:24,400
we cannot

2144
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:26,400
--

2145
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

2146
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,400
] .

2147
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,800
>> melissa for the record.

2148
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,400
for people watching ,

2149
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:51,800
this is an opportunity

2150
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:54,400
[ indiscernible -muffled ]

2151
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:57,400
some are concerned,

2152
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,800
we obligate ourselves , matching,

2153
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:04,400
this is for us to participate

2154
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:06,400
.

2155
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,400
>> thank you .

2156
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:12,400
>> [ indiscernible -

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low volume ]

2158
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:18,400
>>

2159
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:21,400
congress decides

2160
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,400
how to allocate those funds.

2161
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:28,400
following a disaster . Hud has a

2162
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:30,800
specific form that used.

2163
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:37,400
--hud has a specific formula

2164
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:39,400
they

2165
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:42,400
use.

2166
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,400
that is

2167
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:48,400
great information

2168
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:51,400
for hud to report to the rest of

2169
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:52,400
the federal government .

2170
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:53,400
>> not just

2171
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,400
city repairs?

2172
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:57,400
>> I can be.

2173
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:00,400
designed --

2174
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:04,400
it does keep the requirements

2175
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,400
and has to

2176
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:07,400
go to low and moderate income residents.

2177
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,400
it can

2178
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:12,400
be infrastructure. There are communities

2179
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:14,400
where this

2180
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:16,400
is not specific to disaster recovery.

2181
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:18,400
there are communities

2182
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,800
where the cdbg allocation

2183
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:27,800
to build [ indiscernible -low

2184
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,400
volume ] .

2185
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:33,400
there are all kinds of interesting

2186
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:37,600
things you could use the money for.

2187
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:42,400
disaster recovery --

2188
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:45,800
it is similar in

2189
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:49,400
terms of infrastructure for residents.

2190
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:51,400
>> melissa

2191
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:54,400
--

2192
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:57,400
[ indiscernible -

2193
01:48:58,400 --> 01:48:59,400
muffled ].

2194
01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:01,400
>>

2195
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:07,000
debbie lux. Let's make the assumption

2196
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:10,400
we all reach this, can we go back

2197
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:13,400
and ask for funding for hurricane

2198
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:14,400
ian?

2199
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,400
>> no. It is a

2200
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,400
done deal

2201
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:22,000
, the funding has already been awarded.

2202
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:28,400
we are working to ask for some of

2203
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:30,400
that money,

2204
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:31,400
at the state level, that is where

2205
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:33,400
our

2206
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:34,400
work is, the state to carve out some

2207
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:36,400
funding

2208
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:39,400
to our residents.

2209
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:42,400
>> greg julian,

2210
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:45,400
we participate in

2211
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:48,400
the program .

2212
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:53,000
>> I think that was the question.

2213
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:57,400
>> I presume

2214
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:04,400
that is the approval of

2215
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:07,400
the interlocal agreement. That is

2216
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:10,400
what you are referring to. Two

2217
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:12,800
paragraphs I want to

2218
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:17,000
make sure the city council understood.

2219
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:21,400
paragraph 4

2220
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,400
, the city

2221
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,400
understands --

2222
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:31,400
can you explain what rights

2223
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,400
they have if they enter into this

2224
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:35,400
agreement?

2225
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:37,400
>> certainly,

2226
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:39,400
asking for

2227
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:43,400
state of florida cdbg program

2228
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:45,400
, the city

2229
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:48,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

2230
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,400
] in the past,

2231
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,400
we did not have the value

2232
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:55,400
of what we were putting out to the

2233
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:57,400
community, that funding

2234
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,400
was

2235
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:03,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ] .

2236
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:07,400
we are not seeking allocations of

2237
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,400
other cdbg funding at this time.

2238
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:12,400
>> paragraph 12,

2239
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:15,400
a statement

2240
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:19,400
of certain policies that they have adopted

2241
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:21,400
, advised the

2242
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:24,400
city council

2243
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:28,400
if that had been adopted by the

2244
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:29,400
city?

2245
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,400
>>

2246
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:36,800
if you have questions

2247
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:38,400
, it should be brought to the city council

2248
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:39,400
.

2249
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:40,400
>>

2250
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:43,400
I do not have answers.

2251
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:45,800
use of excessive force.

2252
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,400
physically barring entrance.

2253
01:51:58,400 --> 01:51:59,400
appreciate if you would advise whether

2254
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:00,400
or not

2255
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:01,400
we have policies.

2256
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:03,400
>> I withdrawal

2257
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:06,400
my motion.

2258
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:12,800
>> do we have a

2259
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:14,400
second?

2260
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,400
>> second.

2261
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:24,400
>> [

2262
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:27,400
indiscernible -low volume ]

2263
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:30,400
>> I would not be

2264
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:34,600
in position to give you that advice .

2265
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:37,400
>> we will wait until we hear from

2266
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:39,400
the city

2267
01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:42,400
manager.

2268
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:52,400
>> you have a sense of when this would

2269
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:53,400
come back?

2270
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:55,400
>>

2271
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:57,400
we

2272
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:02,600
do have to bring it back again.

2273
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:06,400
[ indiscernible

2274
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:09,400
-low volume ]

2275
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,800
>> melissa for the record.

2276
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,800
would it be appropriate

2277
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:21,400
to approve pending

2278
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:24,400
, concerns the

2279
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:27,400
attorney has?

2280
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:38,400
>> there would be no surprise.

2281
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:40,800
the action taken at

2282
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:44,400
today's meeting was to have his

2283
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:48,000
at the neck city council meeting

2284
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:52,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

2285
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:55,400
]

2286
01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:58,400
.

2287
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:01,400
it sounds something to

2288
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:02,400
me like something the city council

2289
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,400
would want

2290
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:08,400
to adopt as soon as possible.

2291
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,400
>> greg julian.

2292
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:16,400
how would a delight impact

2293
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:17,400
this process ?

2294
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:19,400
>> we would need to

2295
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:24,200
reach out to hud . We can find out.

2296
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:28,400
>>

2297
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:34,400
I need

2298
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:38,400
to check with the police chief

2299
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:40,400
, excessive force ,

2300
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:43,400
that means --

2301
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:46,400
thank you. [

2302
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:49,400
laughter ]

2303
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:52,400
>>

2304
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:55,400
police department

2305
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:58,800
does have a policy

2306
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:00,400
on excessive force.

2307
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:01,400
>> thank

2308
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:02,400
you very much .

2309
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,400
>> you are welcome.

2310
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:07,400
>>

2311
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:10,400
the municipality

2312
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:13,400
adopted a policy

2313
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,800
physically barring entrance to

2314
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:22,400
--[ indiscernible -

2315
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,400
low volume ] ? I want to

2316
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:29,400
make sure the city assigns something

2317
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:32,400
on behalf of the city that is aware

2318
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:34,800
of what is assigning

2319
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:38,400
and not certifying something that

2320
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,400
may not necessarily be true.

2321
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:43,400
very helpful regarding

2322
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:46,400
excessive force. The

2323
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:48,800
policy regarding physically barring

2324
01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:53,400
entrance to. I am not sure where that

2325
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:55,400
comes from.

2326
01:55:57,400 --> 01:55:59,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

2327
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:01,400
]

2328
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:04,400
>> melissa for

2329
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:06,400
the record.

2330
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:08,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

2331
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:10,400
] put this on

2332
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:13,400
the next agenda.

2333
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:24,400
>> [

2334
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:26,400
indiscernible -background noise ]

2335
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:31,400
>> that

2336
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:35,400
we adopt this today. If we do

2337
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:37,400
not act ,

2338
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:41,400
the barring of interest to

2339
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:43,400
[

2340
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:46,400
indiscernible -low volume ] .

2341
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:01,800
go ahead without direction

2342
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:04,400
to staff.

2343
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:10,400
>> greg julian.

2344
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:14,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

2345
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:16,400
]

2346
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:43,400
>> does

2347
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:44,400
not necessarily need to be a part

2348
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:46,400
of a motion.

2349
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:49,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

2350
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:52,400
]

2351
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:13,400
>>

2352
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:14,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

2353
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:16,400
]

2354
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:28,400
>>

2355
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:36,400
those in favor?

2356
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:38,400
>> aye.

2357
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:40,400
>> any

2358
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:47,400
opposed? Motion carries. Thank you

2359
01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:49,400
very much.

2360
01:58:56,400 --> 01:58:58,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

2361
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,400
]

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city of punta gorda council is seeking

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the services of a city attorney, either

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individual or firm , to serve the

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legal needs of the city.

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>> [ indiscernible

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>> [ indiscernible -muffled ]

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>> I was wondering about that. It

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is that

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much better?

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[ indiscernible -muffled

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]

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>> [ indiscernible -background noise

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]

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>> is

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eric here?

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>> [ indiscernible -background noise

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]

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>> instead

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rather a contrite person firm.

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--rather a contract person

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a firm.

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>>

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melissa . I will start.

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we were originally talked about

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the information , whether in-house

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or contract. It seems like this

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is more --

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I want to make sure this is for in-house

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or contract.

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>> that would not be an issue.

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we can change

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the wording.

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>>

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I will go down the line.

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another concern I had,

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it says, in these

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seven years, okay

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--if we are soliciting for

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another attorney,

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years experience,

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I would like to put that

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at least 10 but no lower

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than seven. I want to make sure that

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there is a salary requirement added.

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if we're talking about seeing cost

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, apples to apples.

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I think we need to only look at

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a firm

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as opposed to individuals, we have

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an attorney with

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a firm and we have these attorneys

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, whatever he needs it.

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we can solicit other opinions. Finally,

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areas of practice for that firm.

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obviously,

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what I would like to see,

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apples to apples,

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we have an attorney with governmental experience.

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instead of

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an attorney without experience working

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with the government at all.

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>>

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jeannine polk for

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the record . Think of a large firm

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with a lot of trees with a lot

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of clients.

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those clients could hold special interest.

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that firm ,

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could have special interest

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because of clients

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. Do you understand what I'm trying

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to say? It happens all the time. I

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would

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prefer us not to say someone from

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a large firm.

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>>

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janis ?

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>>

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we do not have to specify.

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>> I disagree with

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10 years.

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we have some intelligent people who

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exceed

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far beyond someone with 10 years experience.

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just because

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somebody has been something

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for a long time, does not be

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there any better than somebody else.

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I do not think

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years of service should be activated.

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we could encounter somebody

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who may be a very good attorney.

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>> melissa for

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the record.

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I understand that.

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I am not saying put in there, large

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firm.

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it is perfectly okay.

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we should find out

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if they are with a firm or

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an individual. Mr. Levin is needed

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opinions and went to his firm

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.

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I understand

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where you're coming from.

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are we okay with putting firm or individual?

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or just specify where you're coming

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from?

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>>

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yes .

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>>

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I did send this

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to melissa and jeff,

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they were very detailed,

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in these requests. The

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more detailed it is,

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we should

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follow what mr. Levin's contract

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has been , very generalized. I

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have not outlined what has been in his

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but it allows us more saying,

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we are looking at this, too.

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we need to have a more generalized.

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I

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can give it to melissa to send to

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everybody to take a

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look at. Keeping us as a requirement

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,

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so we are not shooting

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ourselves in the foot

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and not

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allowing a good person to apply.

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>>

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melissa for

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the record. We are asking for

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attorneys who may want to come on

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board. They do need to have

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--we are looking for the best of the

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best. They need to meet

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this criteria. If we decide to

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enter in to the contract, the negotiations

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that will proceed

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which sets what we will do

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. I do not want

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to generalize anything. You know where

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I sit. Our attorney has been here

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20

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years as an attorney. Very

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cost-effective service

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. I do not want to

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generalize anything

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to work we will save money

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.

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>>

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I think we open the door to have

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more people applying if we

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have a broader request.

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>>

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this would be an rfp

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[ indiscernible -

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for either a firm or individual

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as an independent contractor with

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the city. If you are looking for staff

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,

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how we have

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our existing contract

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,

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it does itemize

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tasks,

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language that says,

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these are the tasks that are required

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, not limited to

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those tasks and additional tasks

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would be at the

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discretion of the city manager.

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your proposal,

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the same as

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hourly rate.

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different structure of contract.

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need to know that as well.

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02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:53,800
>> melissa. May I ask,

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are we looking,

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the conversation I thought I heard,

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we want to see anybody who will apply

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from in-house or apply

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for contract ? What is

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the consensus with what we

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want to be asking?

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>> independent contractor

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would be a solo practitioner,

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w

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>>

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only looking for people that are going

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to be listed

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as a contract attorney?

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are you also wanting

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to have people applying that will

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be in-house?

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I think we agreed on that last

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time

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>> that is what

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I was saying, only for contracts.

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>> I want

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to make sure that is clear. Looking

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at this, the

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only attorneys, I would have to decide

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will I apply for a contract position

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or in-house,

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which will have different clarifications

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of salary

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requirements, et cetera. Does that

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make

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sense?

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>> greg julian,

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not interested in an in-house attorney.

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>> I agree.

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>> can you

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state reasons ?

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>>?

2584
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more expensive to have an in-house attorney.

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more cost-effective to use a

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firm with rates,

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experience , and tap into

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other members of the firm.

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>> debbie lux.

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02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:45,400
what we had with an in-house attorney,

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anymore outside

2592
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legal advice? Do you recall?

2593
02:10:54,400 --> 02:10:56,400
>> we have never

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had an in-house attorney .

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>> forever,

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an attorney

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, an outside attorney with the law

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firm.

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>>

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we do not know if it

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would be more cost effective?

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>> we

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did some research

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and look at

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surrounding melissa polities. --

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we looked at

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surrounding municipalities.

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they had junior attorneys,

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multiple paralegals.

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some said they would contract

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for a city attorney, bring in lower

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paying attorneys

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]

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>> melissa

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for the record.

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you have medical,

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I think our first task is to have

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a

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consensus in our direction, in-house

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or contract only .

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>> it doesn't hurt .

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>>

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jeannine polk for the record.

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if we just put out

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the message we're looking for an in-house

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or contracted attorney?

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>>

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we can put it on websites

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where we advertise.

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no

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additional cost.

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02:12:55,400 --> 02:12:57,400
>> then why not?

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>> [ indiscernible -low volume ]

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>>

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something we would have to discuss.

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>> you

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do not do this outside the

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city council meeting.

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there is no possibility for a shade meeting.

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I am not sure

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how we

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whether they would save money by having

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an in-house attorney.

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I was

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confident based on my expense

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[

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indiscernible -low volume ] you will

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not find the expertise

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hiring in-house

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02:14:16,400 --> 02:14:18,400
,

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02:14:22,400 --> 02:14:24,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

2656
02:14:25,400 --> 02:14:27,400
]

2657
02:14:34,400 --> 02:14:36,400
staff was erected about the proposal

2658
02:14:36,400 --> 02:14:37,400
for in-house and outside contract attorney.

2659
02:14:37,400 --> 02:14:39,400
our

2660
02:14:40,400 --> 02:14:43,400
agenda for today only as for

2661
02:14:43,400 --> 02:14:45,400
outside contract attorney.

2662
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:48,800
I am not sure

2663
02:14:49,400 --> 02:14:50,400
who made the decision to exclude

2664
02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:54,000
your proposal from the agenda. Understand,

2665
02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:57,400
I have been doing this

2666
02:14:57,400 --> 02:15:01,000
, understand the politics of working here.

2667
02:15:01,400 --> 02:15:04,400
I do not think there is any , necessarily,

2668
02:15:04,400 --> 02:15:06,400
deficiency

2669
02:15:09,400 --> 02:15:10,400
that my firm and myself has given

2670
02:15:10,400 --> 02:15:13,400
to the city for the last

2671
02:15:13,400 --> 02:15:14,400
20 years.

2672
02:15:14,400 --> 02:15:16,400
I have gotten along well with every

2673
02:15:16,400 --> 02:15:18,400
single councilmember in

2674
02:15:19,400 --> 02:15:21,400
that time. With

2675
02:15:22,400 --> 02:15:24,800
the exception of difficulties

2676
02:15:25,400 --> 02:15:28,400
we have with respect to

2677
02:15:28,400 --> 02:15:30,400
the understanding

2678
02:15:34,400 --> 02:15:36,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

2679
02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:40,600
] that will happen from time to time.

2680
02:15:42,400 --> 02:15:46,400
I would like to limit it to read the policy

2681
02:15:46,400 --> 02:15:48,400
.

2682
02:15:49,400 --> 02:15:52,400
my job is to make sure the city

2683
02:15:52,400 --> 02:15:54,800
makes decisions that are

2684
02:15:55,400 --> 02:15:57,400
legally correct.

2685
02:15:58,400 --> 02:16:01,400
the suggestion that the mayor

2686
02:16:01,400 --> 02:16:03,400
has made today,

2687
02:16:04,400 --> 02:16:06,400
that ,

2688
02:16:07,400 --> 02:16:10,400
we can have an attorney learn on the job,

2689
02:16:10,400 --> 02:16:12,400
the city and

2690
02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:13,400
residents deserve legal representation

2691
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:15,400
that

2692
02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:19,400
is quite experienced and not make mistakes

2693
02:16:19,400 --> 02:16:21,400
. I recognize

2694
02:16:22,400 --> 02:16:24,400
the fact,

2695
02:16:25,400 --> 02:16:27,400
based on the circumstances we've

2696
02:16:27,400 --> 02:16:28,400
come this far, the city is not going

2697
02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:30,400
to be

2698
02:16:31,400 --> 02:16:33,400
renewing my contract.

2699
02:16:34,400 --> 02:16:37,400
the city has a right to

2700
02:16:37,400 --> 02:16:39,400
terminate me

2701
02:16:40,400 --> 02:16:43,400
before the end of my contract.

2702
02:16:43,400 --> 02:16:46,400
I want to city council

2703
02:16:46,400 --> 02:16:49,400
to understand, you need someone with experience

2704
02:16:49,400 --> 02:16:52,400
that will protect the city

2705
02:16:52,400 --> 02:16:54,400
, not someone who

2706
02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:58,400
will count out to what the mayor wants.

2707
02:16:58,400 --> 02:17:00,400
--

2708
02:17:01,400 --> 02:17:03,800
not someone who will

2709
02:17:07,400 --> 02:17:09,400
kowtow

2710
02:17:10,400 --> 02:17:13,400
to what the mayor wants. They can

2711
02:17:13,400 --> 02:17:15,800
apply in-house or contract

2712
02:17:16,400 --> 02:17:18,400
.

2713
02:17:19,400 --> 02:17:21,400
as

2714
02:17:21,400 --> 02:17:22,400
far as the cost and the salary, when

2715
02:17:22,400 --> 02:17:24,400
they

2716
02:17:25,400 --> 02:17:28,400
are applying, I am looking for

2717
02:17:28,400 --> 02:17:29,400
x salary.

2718
02:17:29,400 --> 02:17:31,400
>> yes,

2719
02:17:31,400 --> 02:17:33,800
during the applicant process

2720
02:17:34,400 --> 02:17:37,400
, always part of the application,

2721
02:17:40,400 --> 02:17:42,800
for these outside folks,

2722
02:17:43,400 --> 02:17:45,400
[ indiscernible

2723
02:17:46,400 --> 02:17:47,400
-low volume ]

2724
02:17:47,400 --> 02:17:49,400
>> everybody okay with that

2725
02:17:49,400 --> 02:17:51,400
?

2726
02:17:55,400 --> 02:17:57,400
>> I was

2727
02:17:58,400 --> 02:18:00,800
trying to be respectful

2728
02:18:01,400 --> 02:18:03,400
that I do

2729
02:18:04,400 --> 02:18:06,400
not disqualify

2730
02:18:07,400 --> 02:18:08,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ] mr.

2731
02:18:08,400 --> 02:18:10,400
levin,

2732
02:18:10,400 --> 02:18:12,400
I am trying to be

2733
02:18:12,400 --> 02:18:13,400
respectful, you have said otherwise

2734
02:18:13,400 --> 02:18:15,400
, I take offense

2735
02:18:16,400 --> 02:18:18,400
to that.

2736
02:18:22,400 --> 02:18:24,400
I looked at

2737
02:18:25,400 --> 02:18:27,400
ziprecruiter.com,

2738
02:18:30,400 --> 02:18:31,400
I don't know if anyone has looked

2739
02:18:31,400 --> 02:18:33,400
at what fees

2740
02:18:34,400 --> 02:18:36,800
would be acceptable or

2741
02:18:37,400 --> 02:18:40,400
not acceptable . Has anybody done research?

2742
02:18:40,400 --> 02:18:42,800
>> just last night, I

2743
02:18:43,400 --> 02:18:45,400
went on

2744
02:18:46,400 --> 02:18:49,400
indeed.com, quite a few local

2745
02:18:49,400 --> 02:18:51,400
cities local for

2746
02:18:52,400 --> 02:18:54,400
city attorneys.

2747
02:18:55,400 --> 02:18:57,400
anywhere

2748
02:18:58,400 --> 02:19:00,400
from $150,000 to $200,000.

2749
02:19:01,400 --> 02:19:03,400
>> in-house ? >> it says

2750
02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:06,400
city attorney.

2751
02:19:10,400 --> 02:19:12,400
>> [ indiscernible -low volume

2752
02:19:13,400 --> 02:19:14,400
]

2753
02:19:14,400 --> 02:19:16,400
>>

2754
02:19:16,400 --> 02:19:19,400
remind city council , the first meeting

2755
02:19:19,400 --> 02:19:21,800
of the city council,

2756
02:19:22,400 --> 02:19:24,400
the finance director

2757
02:19:25,400 --> 02:19:28,400
was asked, how much are we

2758
02:19:28,400 --> 02:19:31,400
paying for the law firm ?

2759
02:19:31,400 --> 02:19:33,400
the answer was

2760
02:19:34,400 --> 02:19:36,400
, less than $150,000.

2761
02:19:37,400 --> 02:19:40,400
if you find somebody who's cheap,

2762
02:19:40,400 --> 02:19:43,400
experienced, you can find somebody.

2763
02:19:43,400 --> 02:19:45,400
--

2764
02:19:46,400 --> 02:19:49,400
you can find somebody who is

2765
02:19:49,400 --> 02:19:52,400
cheap, inexperienced, you can find somebody

2766
02:19:52,400 --> 02:19:53,400
.

2767
02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:56,400
>> I had city attorneys reach out

2768
02:19:56,400 --> 02:19:58,400
to me

2769
02:19:59,400 --> 02:20:01,400
, sometimes people

2770
02:20:02,400 --> 02:20:04,400
can ask

2771
02:20:04,400 --> 02:20:05,400
for less money and be just as qualified

2772
02:20:05,400 --> 02:20:07,400
and just

2773
02:20:08,400 --> 02:20:10,800
as good. Let's keep

2774
02:20:11,400 --> 02:20:13,800
this kind and stick

2775
02:20:14,400 --> 02:20:15,400
to the fact, please.

2776
02:20:15,400 --> 02:20:16,400
>>

2777
02:20:16,400 --> 02:20:20,400
melissa for the record . We are in

2778
02:20:20,400 --> 02:20:22,400
a different situation.

2779
02:20:22,400 --> 02:20:26,400
we do not have an attorney that is

2780
02:20:26,400 --> 02:20:29,400
leaving, we don't have an

2781
02:20:29,400 --> 02:20:30,400
attorney that only

2782
02:20:30,400 --> 02:20:32,400
has five or six years of expense.

2783
02:20:32,400 --> 02:20:33,400
we have an attorney

2784
02:20:33,400 --> 02:20:35,400
with four years of expense, 20 years

2785
02:20:35,400 --> 02:20:37,400
with the city ,

2786
02:20:37,400 --> 02:20:41,000
a land-use attorney. He already has

2787
02:20:41,400 --> 02:20:44,400
--it is a disservice that we

2788
02:20:44,400 --> 02:20:45,400
are talking about

2789
02:20:45,400 --> 02:20:47,400
getting somebody with less than seven

2790
02:20:47,400 --> 02:20:50,400
years experience. We need to

2791
02:20:50,400 --> 02:20:51,400
make sure --the city attorney

2792
02:20:51,400 --> 02:20:53,400
is one of the most important positions

2793
02:20:53,400 --> 02:20:55,400
because his job is to

2794
02:20:55,400 --> 02:20:58,400
bring us in and make sure we are not

2795
02:20:58,400 --> 02:21:02,400
doing things to get our city sued.

2796
02:21:02,400 --> 02:21:04,400
who always agrees with an

2797
02:21:04,400 --> 02:21:05,400
attorney? Sorry. That is the name

2798
02:21:05,400 --> 02:21:06,400
of the

2799
02:21:06,400 --> 02:21:08,400
game his job is to make sure that

2800
02:21:08,400 --> 02:21:10,400
the city

2801
02:21:11,400 --> 02:21:12,400
gets his opinion, whether you

2802
02:21:12,400 --> 02:21:14,400
like it or not, up to us on whether

2803
02:21:14,400 --> 02:21:16,400
we will

2804
02:21:17,400 --> 02:21:19,400
take it,

2805
02:21:19,400 --> 02:21:20,400
and I do not know why we will set

2806
02:21:20,400 --> 02:21:21,400
the bar

2807
02:21:21,400 --> 02:21:23,400
back, we have a pretty good bar set

2808
02:21:23,400 --> 02:21:25,400
for our city

2809
02:21:25,400 --> 02:21:26,400
and we will continue to have. I do

2810
02:21:26,400 --> 02:21:28,400
not

2811
02:21:29,400 --> 02:21:30,400
know what we would go

2812
02:21:30,400 --> 02:21:32,400
with somebody less than seven years,

2813
02:21:32,400 --> 02:21:34,400
10 years,

2814
02:21:34,400 --> 02:21:35,400
has to be willing to work with us

2815
02:21:35,400 --> 02:21:37,400
and has

2816
02:21:38,400 --> 02:21:41,400
20 years with the city, four years of

2817
02:21:41,400 --> 02:21:44,400
--when he does his hourly, it

2818
02:21:44,400 --> 02:21:46,400
is including,

2819
02:21:47,400 --> 02:21:50,400
am I correct that if

2820
02:21:50,400 --> 02:21:52,400
--he spent seven hours,

2821
02:21:52,400 --> 02:21:53,400
seven hours with him, seven hours

2822
02:21:53,400 --> 02:21:55,400
with his

2823
02:21:56,400 --> 02:21:59,400
other attorney that fee has

2824
02:21:59,400 --> 02:22:01,400
to apply. He understands that . Instead

2825
02:22:01,400 --> 02:22:05,400
of having seven hours with mr. Levin,

2826
02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:08,400
and built for another attorney,

2827
02:22:08,400 --> 02:22:11,400
that is very important for

2828
02:22:11,400 --> 02:22:13,800
me personally, for transparency.

2829
02:22:29,400 --> 02:22:31,400
>> we discussed all

2830
02:22:32,400 --> 02:22:34,400
of this. We

2831
02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:37,400
all decided that we

2832
02:22:37,400 --> 02:22:38,400
were going to look at another direction.

2833
02:22:38,400 --> 02:22:40,400
we

2834
02:22:41,400 --> 02:22:42,400
are hashing something else out. Time

2835
02:22:42,400 --> 02:22:44,400
for us

2836
02:22:44,400 --> 02:22:47,400
to go ahead and make a motion

2837
02:22:47,400 --> 02:22:50,400
for them , our city staff, to

2838
02:22:50,400 --> 02:22:52,400
go ahead --

2839
02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:55,400
I approve 16.

2840
02:22:56,400 --> 02:22:57,400
make a motion to approve 16 .

2841
02:22:57,400 --> 02:22:59,400
>>

2842
02:22:59,400 --> 02:23:01,400
I second.

2843
02:23:02,400 --> 02:23:04,800
>> what is the time?

2844
02:23:05,400 --> 02:23:08,400
the timeline for people to respond

2845
02:23:08,400 --> 02:23:10,800
? 30 days ? How do we

2846
02:23:11,400 --> 02:23:13,400
do that?

2847
02:23:17,400 --> 02:23:19,400
>> 14 days to 21 days.

2848
02:23:23,400 --> 02:23:25,400
the

2849
02:23:26,400 --> 02:23:28,400
evaluation committee ,

2850
02:23:29,400 --> 02:23:31,400
review those proposals,

2851
02:23:32,400 --> 02:23:34,800
make sure it meets

2852
02:23:35,400 --> 02:23:38,400
the requirements. Rfp . Send out

2853
02:23:38,400 --> 02:23:40,400
the references.

2854
02:23:41,400 --> 02:23:43,800
gather all that information

2855
02:23:44,400 --> 02:23:46,800
to review the proposal.

2856
02:23:47,400 --> 02:23:49,400
there is

2857
02:23:50,400 --> 02:23:52,400
a process .

2858
02:23:53,400 --> 02:23:55,400
council to

2859
02:23:56,400 --> 02:23:58,800
review the evaluation of

2860
02:23:59,400 --> 02:24:01,800
the proposals. For council

2861
02:24:02,400 --> 02:24:04,800
to review those proposals,

2862
02:24:05,400 --> 02:24:08,400
to approve the firm, for procurement,

2863
02:24:08,400 --> 02:24:10,400
representatives

2864
02:24:11,400 --> 02:24:13,800
from the community --

2865
02:24:20,400 --> 02:24:23,400
the other play is to

2866
02:24:23,400 --> 02:24:25,800
have the evaluation , review

2867
02:24:26,400 --> 02:24:28,400
, proposal , shortlist,

2868
02:24:29,400 --> 02:24:32,400
have someone going to the negotiations

2869
02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:35,400
with the representative from the

2870
02:24:35,400 --> 02:24:37,400
evaluation committee

2871
02:24:37,400 --> 02:24:41,400
and bring the proposal to city council

2872
02:24:41,400 --> 02:24:43,400
to approve.

2873
02:24:44,400 --> 02:24:46,400
>> because it will

2874
02:24:47,400 --> 02:24:50,400
be us hiring and firing,

2875
02:24:50,400 --> 02:24:53,400
council should have one direction

2876
02:24:53,400 --> 02:24:54,400
to what we're looking for. If you

2877
02:24:54,400 --> 02:24:56,400
are putting

2878
02:24:56,400 --> 02:24:58,400
inexperienced,

2879
02:24:59,400 --> 02:25:01,400
mandatory

2880
02:25:02,400 --> 02:25:04,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ] .

2881
02:25:05,400 --> 02:25:07,400
it feels good

2882
02:25:08,400 --> 02:25:11,400
, but do not make it mandatory.

2883
02:25:11,400 --> 02:25:13,400
maybe

2884
02:25:13,400 --> 02:25:14,400
somebody without seven years but has

2885
02:25:14,400 --> 02:25:17,400
worked in a law firm. Something.

2886
02:25:17,400 --> 02:25:19,800
make it so narrow

2887
02:25:20,400 --> 02:25:21,400
.

2888
02:25:21,400 --> 02:25:23,400
>>

2889
02:25:23,400 --> 02:25:26,400
I disagree. It needs to be

2890
02:25:26,400 --> 02:25:28,400
seven years.

2891
02:25:29,400 --> 02:25:31,400
>> any

2892
02:25:32,400 --> 02:25:33,400
consensus on seven years?

2893
02:25:33,400 --> 02:25:35,400
>>

2894
02:25:35,400 --> 02:25:37,800
jeannine polk. Let's let

2895
02:25:38,400 --> 02:25:40,800
this be hashed out,

2896
02:25:41,400 --> 02:25:43,400
anything offered --

2897
02:25:44,400 --> 02:25:46,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ] .

2898
02:25:47,400 --> 02:25:49,400
>> the function will be

2899
02:25:49,400 --> 02:25:50,400
to evaluate the responses based on

2900
02:25:50,400 --> 02:25:52,400
the scope --

2901
02:25:53,400 --> 02:25:55,800
what we have identified

2902
02:25:56,400 --> 02:25:58,400
. That

2903
02:25:58,400 --> 02:26:02,000
information would have to be clarified.

2904
02:26:02,400 --> 02:26:04,400
>> [ indiscernible -low volume ]

2905
02:26:05,400 --> 02:26:08,400
>> the composition of the committees are,

2906
02:26:08,400 --> 02:26:10,400
our policy , numbers

2907
02:26:11,400 --> 02:26:14,400
of staff --members of staff,

2908
02:26:14,400 --> 02:26:16,400
identified

2909
02:26:17,400 --> 02:26:19,400
by the [ indiscernible

2910
02:26:20,400 --> 02:26:21,400
-low volume ].

2911
02:26:21,400 --> 02:26:23,400
>> is

2912
02:26:23,400 --> 02:26:24,400
it possible to have some citizens

2913
02:26:24,400 --> 02:26:26,400
with expertise

2914
02:26:26,400 --> 02:26:27,400
in this area on the committee?

2915
02:26:27,400 --> 02:26:29,400
>>

2916
02:26:29,400 --> 02:26:31,400
our policy dictates

2917
02:26:32,400 --> 02:26:33,400
--no.

2918
02:26:33,400 --> 02:26:35,400
>> you will

2919
02:26:35,400 --> 02:26:37,800
ask staff, but this

2920
02:26:38,400 --> 02:26:40,800
is contract. We are

2921
02:26:42,400 --> 02:26:43,400
missing that fact.

2922
02:26:43,400 --> 02:26:45,400
council should be looking at these

2923
02:26:45,400 --> 02:26:47,400
applications

2924
02:26:48,400 --> 02:26:50,400
. [ indiscernible -low volume

2925
02:26:51,400 --> 02:26:53,400
]

2926
02:26:54,400 --> 02:26:57,400
so we can narrow it down.

2927
02:26:57,400 --> 02:26:58,400
we will look

2928
02:26:58,400 --> 02:27:00,400
for somebody who will work well with us.

2929
02:27:00,400 --> 02:27:02,400
try

2930
02:27:03,400 --> 02:27:05,400
to compromise ,

2931
02:27:09,400 --> 02:27:10,400
that will

2932
02:27:10,400 --> 02:27:15,200
open it up for more people to apply.

2933
02:27:24,400 --> 02:27:26,800
seven years is way

2934
02:27:27,400 --> 02:27:28,400
too much.

2935
02:27:28,400 --> 02:27:30,400
>> set the bar low. >>

2936
02:27:30,400 --> 02:27:32,400
I do not agree

2937
02:27:32,400 --> 02:27:36,400
. Do not agree it is a staff policy.

2938
02:27:36,400 --> 02:27:38,800
we have our protocol

2939
02:27:39,400 --> 02:27:41,400
on here.

2940
02:27:42,400 --> 02:27:44,800
let staff read it.

2941
02:27:48,400 --> 02:27:51,400
to have this a smooth process,

2942
02:27:51,400 --> 02:27:53,400
I would like

2943
02:27:54,400 --> 02:27:57,400
to ask another question. We

2944
02:27:57,400 --> 02:27:59,400
have a

2945
02:28:00,400 --> 02:28:01,400
motion. I will not ask now.

2946
02:28:01,400 --> 02:28:03,400
>>

2947
02:28:03,400 --> 02:28:06,400
if you prefer to have

2948
02:28:06,400 --> 02:28:08,400
a firm ,

2949
02:28:09,400 --> 02:28:12,400
to come in and make a

2950
02:28:12,400 --> 02:28:14,400
presentation,

2951
02:28:15,400 --> 02:28:16,400
we can do that as well.

2952
02:28:16,400 --> 02:28:18,400
>>

2953
02:28:18,400 --> 02:28:19,400
where are we in the motion?

2954
02:28:19,400 --> 02:28:21,400
>>

2955
02:28:21,400 --> 02:28:23,800
a motion to approve

2956
02:28:24,400 --> 02:28:26,800
16 and let city staff

2957
02:28:27,400 --> 02:28:28,400
put out

2958
02:28:28,400 --> 02:28:30,400
a firm or individual for city attorney.

2959
02:28:30,400 --> 02:28:32,400
>>

2960
02:28:33,400 --> 02:28:34,400
second.

2961
02:28:34,400 --> 02:28:36,400
>> yes.

2962
02:28:37,400 --> 02:28:39,400
recommend instead of mandatory for

2963
02:28:39,400 --> 02:28:41,400
seven years.

2964
02:28:42,400 --> 02:28:44,400
>> that right? >>

2965
02:28:45,400 --> 02:28:48,400
I do not to get matters,

2966
02:28:48,400 --> 02:28:50,400
six, seven .

2967
02:28:51,400 --> 02:28:53,400
let's

2968
02:28:54,400 --> 02:28:57,400
interview people before we fight over this.

2969
02:28:57,400 --> 02:28:59,400
>> so,

2970
02:29:00,400 --> 02:29:02,800
you want to let

2971
02:29:03,400 --> 02:29:05,400
anybody apply

2972
02:29:06,400 --> 02:29:07,400
?

2973
02:29:07,400 --> 02:29:09,400
>> I would set

2974
02:29:09,400 --> 02:29:10,400
a standard.

2975
02:29:10,400 --> 02:29:11,400
>>

2976
02:29:11,400 --> 02:29:12,400
look at other municipalities and see

2977
02:29:12,400 --> 02:29:14,400
their protocol.

2978
02:29:21,400 --> 02:29:23,400
>> debbie lux, when

2979
02:29:24,400 --> 02:29:27,400
I asked you this morning,

2980
02:29:27,400 --> 02:29:29,800
look at a broader

2981
02:29:30,400 --> 02:29:32,400
picture,

2982
02:29:36,400 --> 02:29:38,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ] ?

2983
02:29:42,400 --> 02:29:45,400
>> you cannot say somebody with years

2984
02:29:45,400 --> 02:29:46,400
of service is the best.

2985
02:29:46,400 --> 02:29:47,400
>> we

2986
02:29:47,400 --> 02:29:51,400
have a consensus for seven or not?

2987
02:29:51,400 --> 02:29:54,400
>> I am good with seven years , jeannine polk

2988
02:29:54,400 --> 02:29:56,400
, for the record.

2989
02:30:00,400 --> 02:30:02,400
>>

2990
02:30:03,400 --> 02:30:06,400
minimum would be the word.

2991
02:30:06,400 --> 02:30:07,400
a minimum of seven.

2992
02:30:07,400 --> 02:30:09,400
>>

2993
02:30:09,400 --> 02:30:12,400
this is greg julian. I do not

2994
02:30:12,400 --> 02:30:14,800
disagree with the recommended

2995
02:30:15,400 --> 02:30:17,400
language ,

2996
02:30:18,400 --> 02:30:20,800
so there is flexibility.

2997
02:30:21,400 --> 02:30:23,400
>> I think recommended

2998
02:30:24,400 --> 02:30:26,400
is fine.

2999
02:30:27,400 --> 02:30:29,400
recommend

3000
02:30:30,400 --> 02:30:31,400
seven years.

3001
02:30:31,400 --> 02:30:33,400
>> second.

3002
02:30:36,400 --> 02:30:39,400
>> do we vote on the

3003
02:30:39,400 --> 02:30:40,400
motion?

3004
02:30:40,400 --> 02:30:41,400
>>

3005
02:30:41,400 --> 02:30:42,400
with recommended seven years, a motion

3006
02:30:42,400 --> 02:30:44,400
?

3007
02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:47,400
>>

3008
02:30:48,400 --> 02:30:49,400
second.

3009
02:30:49,400 --> 02:30:51,400
>> all in favor? >>

3010
02:30:57,400 --> 02:30:58,400
aye.

3011
02:30:58,400 --> 02:31:00,400
>> any opposed?

3012
02:31:00,400 --> 02:31:02,400
the motion

3013
02:31:03,400 --> 02:31:04,400
carries.

3014
02:31:04,400 --> 02:31:08,000
>> will mr. Levin be a candidate?

3015
02:31:09,400 --> 02:31:12,400
are we looking at this

3016
02:31:12,400 --> 02:31:15,400
as a look and see

3017
02:31:15,400 --> 02:31:18,400
what comes or not renew

3018
02:31:18,400 --> 02:31:19,400
the contract of mr. Levin?

3019
02:31:19,400 --> 02:31:21,400
>>

3020
02:31:26,400 --> 02:31:27,400
he can apply like everyone else and

3021
02:31:27,400 --> 02:31:28,400
we evaluate the candidates.

3022
02:31:28,400 --> 02:31:29,400
>> that

3023
02:31:29,400 --> 02:31:30,400
is

3024
02:31:30,400 --> 02:31:31,400
a correct.

3025
02:31:31,400 --> 02:31:33,400
>> I agree.

3026
02:31:33,400 --> 02:31:35,400
>> yes.

3027
02:31:39,400 --> 02:31:41,400
>>

3028
02:31:42,400 --> 02:31:44,400
okay. Next

3029
02:31:45,400 --> 02:31:47,400
is the

3030
02:31:51,400 --> 02:31:53,400
city of

3031
02:31:54,400 --> 02:31:55,400
punta gorda is soliciting proposals

3032
02:31:55,400 --> 02:31:56,400
from qualified executive search firms to

3033
02:31:56,400 --> 02:31:57,400
conduct research to the executive

3034
02:31:57,400 --> 02:31:59,400
position of

3035
02:32:00,400 --> 02:32:02,400
city manager.

3036
02:32:02,400 --> 02:32:06,400
the process for the city attorney search

3037
02:32:06,400 --> 02:32:09,400
, I looked at other disparities,

3038
02:32:09,400 --> 02:32:11,400
through this process,

3039
02:32:12,400 --> 02:32:14,400
looked at what

3040
02:32:17,400 --> 02:32:18,400
their rfps looked like. Rather than

3041
02:32:18,400 --> 02:32:20,400
the end

3042
02:32:21,400 --> 02:32:23,400
result from

3043
02:32:23,400 --> 02:32:24,400
an attorney you will have a search

3044
02:32:24,400 --> 02:32:26,400
firm

3045
02:32:27,400 --> 02:32:30,400
specializing in these searches. This document

3046
02:32:30,400 --> 02:32:32,400
directs them

3047
02:32:33,400 --> 02:32:36,400
to how to go about this search.

3048
02:32:36,400 --> 02:32:38,400
spirit melissa for

3049
02:32:39,400 --> 02:32:41,400
the record,

3050
02:32:42,400 --> 02:32:44,800
I feel like, the

3051
02:32:45,400 --> 02:32:46,400
day and age of the internet and city

3052
02:32:46,400 --> 02:32:48,400
managers or

3053
02:32:48,400 --> 02:32:49,400
city attorneys,

3054
02:32:49,400 --> 02:32:51,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

3055
02:32:51,400 --> 02:32:53,400
]

3056
02:32:54,400 --> 02:32:57,400
I am not sure we need to spend money

3057
02:32:57,400 --> 02:33:00,400
for a company to do that.

3058
02:33:00,400 --> 02:33:03,400
this is my proposal, it's

3059
02:33:03,400 --> 02:33:06,400
--instead of spending money , can

3060
02:33:06,400 --> 02:33:09,400
we post it to see who we get? If we

3061
02:33:09,400 --> 02:33:12,400
do not get a lot of candidates, we

3062
02:33:12,400 --> 02:33:14,800
can spend the money.

3063
02:33:15,400 --> 02:33:17,400
>> I think that

3064
02:33:18,400 --> 02:33:20,800
is a reasonable suggestion.

3065
02:33:21,400 --> 02:33:24,400
there is a search firm

3066
02:33:24,400 --> 02:33:27,400
that reached out to us.

3067
02:33:27,400 --> 02:33:30,400
I have his name here.

3068
02:33:30,400 --> 02:33:32,400
$2000 for

3069
02:33:33,400 --> 02:33:35,400
the search, the guarantee , if

3070
02:33:35,400 --> 02:33:36,400
you are not happy with the person

3071
02:33:36,400 --> 02:33:38,400
after

3072
02:33:39,400 --> 02:33:42,400
one year, they will find another

3073
02:33:42,400 --> 02:33:45,400
person and work with the

3074
02:33:45,400 --> 02:33:48,400
chosen city manager to work with the staff.

3075
02:33:48,400 --> 02:33:50,400
rather than saying ,

3076
02:33:51,400 --> 02:33:54,400
this is not working , they will

3077
02:33:54,400 --> 02:33:57,400
work through the situations. A hiring firm

3078
02:33:57,400 --> 02:34:00,400
that helps people learn to work together.

3079
02:34:00,400 --> 02:34:03,400
we want to get it

3080
02:34:03,400 --> 02:34:06,400
all right as much as possible.

3081
02:34:06,400 --> 02:34:08,400
I can send

3082
02:34:09,400 --> 02:34:11,400
council this proposal.

3083
02:34:21,400 --> 02:34:24,400
are we allowed to set up one

3084
02:34:24,400 --> 02:34:26,400
with medications?

3085
02:34:27,400 --> 02:34:29,400
>> one-way communications

3086
02:34:30,400 --> 02:34:31,400
are permissible.

3087
02:34:31,400 --> 02:34:33,400
>>

3088
02:34:33,400 --> 02:34:36,400
I could send it to all

3089
02:34:36,400 --> 02:34:38,400
of you.

3090
02:34:42,400 --> 02:34:44,400
some

3091
02:34:45,400 --> 02:34:47,400
good firms.

3092
02:34:48,400 --> 02:34:49,400
I think there are some applications

3093
02:34:49,400 --> 02:34:50,400
on the

3094
02:34:50,400 --> 02:34:52,400
table maybe that we haven't seen.

3095
02:34:52,400 --> 02:34:54,400
is that correct?

3096
02:34:55,400 --> 02:34:57,400
>>

3097
02:34:58,400 --> 02:35:00,400
the posting

3098
02:35:01,400 --> 02:35:03,800
has not gone out.

3099
02:35:07,400 --> 02:35:09,400
>> I remember

3100
02:35:10,400 --> 02:35:12,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

3101
02:35:13,400 --> 02:35:15,400
] .

3102
02:35:16,400 --> 02:35:18,800
>> the city had not

3103
02:35:19,400 --> 02:35:21,800
decided on the collocations.

3104
02:35:22,400 --> 02:35:24,400
-- qualifications.

3105
02:35:25,400 --> 02:35:27,400
>>

3106
02:35:28,400 --> 02:35:30,400
there are quite

3107
02:35:31,400 --> 02:35:34,400
a few firms out there I

3108
02:35:34,400 --> 02:35:35,400
would like to discuss this.

3109
02:35:35,400 --> 02:35:37,400
>>

3110
02:35:37,400 --> 02:35:39,400
as we identify

3111
02:35:40,400 --> 02:35:42,400
the criteria

3112
02:35:43,400 --> 02:35:45,400
to evaluate this , the

3113
02:35:45,400 --> 02:35:49,000
city council has the approval authority

3114
02:35:49,400 --> 02:35:52,400
for this type of firm.

3115
02:35:52,400 --> 02:35:54,400
so , I

3116
02:35:54,400 --> 02:35:55,400
would suggest that you not obtain

3117
02:35:55,400 --> 02:35:57,400
proposals

3118
02:35:58,400 --> 02:36:00,400
from firms. And

3119
02:36:01,400 --> 02:36:02,400
provide proposals to

3120
02:36:02,400 --> 02:36:04,400
the other members of council because

3121
02:36:04,400 --> 02:36:06,800
that could appear as

3122
02:36:07,400 --> 02:36:10,400
a conflict of interest because

3123
02:36:10,400 --> 02:36:12,400
you are the approval body for

3124
02:36:12,400 --> 02:36:13,400
this type of solicitation.

3125
02:36:13,400 --> 02:36:15,400
>> we are

3126
02:36:16,400 --> 02:36:18,400
responsible for

3127
02:36:19,400 --> 02:36:21,400
hiring , but [ indiscernible

3128
02:36:22,400 --> 02:36:24,400
-low volume ] ?

3129
02:36:25,400 --> 02:36:27,400
>> our objective today,

3130
02:36:31,400 --> 02:36:33,400
you

3131
02:36:34,400 --> 02:36:36,400
can research information

3132
02:36:36,400 --> 02:36:40,400
that you would like to see in the

3133
02:36:40,400 --> 02:36:42,400
proposal. Solicitation.

3134
02:36:49,400 --> 02:36:51,800
identify any special conditions.

3135
02:36:55,400 --> 02:36:58,400
as we go to recommend,

3136
02:36:58,400 --> 02:37:01,400
--as we go to the

3137
02:37:01,400 --> 02:37:03,400
german process,

3138
02:37:04,400 --> 02:37:06,400
w procurement procurement

3139
02:37:07,400 --> 02:37:09,400
,

3140
02:37:10,400 --> 02:37:13,400
if they do contact you,

3141
02:37:13,400 --> 02:37:15,800
they are automatically rejected.

3142
02:37:16,400 --> 02:37:18,800
would like maximum competition

3143
02:37:19,400 --> 02:37:21,800
. I would suggest that

3144
02:37:22,400 --> 02:37:24,400
,

3145
02:37:24,400 --> 02:37:28,000
doing research is a wonderful tool

3146
02:37:28,400 --> 02:37:30,400
and providing

3147
02:37:31,400 --> 02:37:34,400
information so we can relay that in

3148
02:37:34,400 --> 02:37:36,400
the solicitation.

3149
02:37:37,400 --> 02:37:39,400
>>

3150
02:37:42,400 --> 02:37:46,400
if you have somebody, go to the procurement process.

3151
02:37:46,400 --> 02:37:48,800
>> we do help individuals

3152
02:37:49,400 --> 02:37:51,400
[

3153
02:37:52,400 --> 02:37:55,400
indiscernible -low volume ] it can

3154
02:37:55,400 --> 02:37:56,400
be ominous, the process

3155
02:37:56,400 --> 02:37:58,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

3156
02:37:58,400 --> 02:38:00,400
]

3157
02:38:00,400 --> 02:38:02,800
anybody interested in solicitation,

3158
02:38:04,400 --> 02:38:06,400
we publicize [ indiscernible -

3159
02:38:07,400 --> 02:38:08,400
low volume ]

3160
02:38:08,400 --> 02:38:10,400
they can come in and ask any type

3161
02:38:10,400 --> 02:38:12,400
of question.

3162
02:38:13,400 --> 02:38:15,400
we post the solicitation online

3163
02:38:15,400 --> 02:38:16,400
so everybody can see the questions

3164
02:38:16,400 --> 02:38:18,400
and

3165
02:38:19,400 --> 02:38:20,400
what the answers are. [

3166
02:38:20,400 --> 02:38:22,400
indiscernible -background noise ]

3167
02:38:22,400 --> 02:38:24,400
>>

3168
02:38:25,400 --> 02:38:27,400
it almost seems

3169
02:38:28,400 --> 02:38:31,400
to me that they should present that

3170
02:38:31,400 --> 02:38:33,800
to us to understand

3171
02:38:34,400 --> 02:38:35,400
how to do this.

3172
02:38:35,400 --> 02:38:37,400
>>

3173
02:38:37,400 --> 02:38:40,400
I would be happy to

3174
02:38:40,400 --> 02:38:42,400
do so.

3175
02:38:43,400 --> 02:38:45,400
>>

3176
02:38:46,400 --> 02:38:48,400
debbie lucks

3177
02:38:49,400 --> 02:38:51,400
--debbie

3178
02:38:52,400 --> 02:38:54,800
lux for the record.

3179
02:38:55,400 --> 02:38:57,800
is everybody okay with

3180
02:38:58,400 --> 02:39:01,400
looking at sites to put

3181
02:39:01,400 --> 02:39:03,400
something out?

3182
02:39:04,400 --> 02:39:06,400
I started

3183
02:39:07,400 --> 02:39:09,400
some questions.

3184
02:39:10,400 --> 02:39:11,400
you may have those questions already

3185
02:39:11,400 --> 02:39:13,400
down

3186
02:39:13,400 --> 02:39:15,400
in the process.

3187
02:39:16,400 --> 02:39:17,400
>> that is not what I was suggesting.

3188
02:39:17,400 --> 02:39:19,400
all

3189
02:39:19,400 --> 02:39:22,400
I was saying, just like city manager,

3190
02:39:22,400 --> 02:39:24,800
excuse me, just like

3191
02:39:25,400 --> 02:39:28,400
the city attorney, you will

3192
02:39:28,400 --> 02:39:31,400
put it on the website , why not for

3193
02:39:31,400 --> 02:39:33,800
the city manager, too?

3194
02:39:34,400 --> 02:39:37,400
>> job description for the city manager

3195
02:39:37,400 --> 02:39:39,400
and post that

3196
02:39:40,400 --> 02:39:43,400
with salary range, job duties .

3197
02:39:45,400 --> 02:39:49,000
>> we need to discuss salary range.

3198
02:39:49,400 --> 02:39:51,400
prior to putting

3199
02:39:52,400 --> 02:39:53,400
it up.

3200
02:39:53,400 --> 02:39:55,400
>> for the

3201
02:39:55,400 --> 02:39:57,400
search form?

3202
02:39:58,400 --> 02:40:00,400
--for the

3203
02:40:01,400 --> 02:40:03,400
search firm? [

3204
02:40:04,400 --> 02:40:06,400
indiscernible -low volume ]

3205
02:40:06,400 --> 02:40:09,400
>> my questions, with salary range,

3206
02:40:10,400 --> 02:40:13,400
specifically at a city with 20,000

3207
02:40:13,400 --> 02:40:15,400
,

3208
02:40:16,400 --> 02:40:18,400
seawalls , things

3209
02:40:19,400 --> 02:40:21,400
like that , the

3210
02:40:22,400 --> 02:40:23,400
whole state of florida?

3211
02:40:23,400 --> 02:40:25,400
>>

3212
02:40:25,400 --> 02:40:27,400
salary ranges

3213
02:40:27,400 --> 02:40:31,000
are set by compensation and benefits.

3214
02:40:31,400 --> 02:40:34,400
they examine every position in

3215
02:40:34,400 --> 02:40:37,400
the city. That is how

3216
02:40:37,400 --> 02:40:38,400
it is set.

3217
02:40:38,400 --> 02:40:40,400
>> okay,

3218
02:40:40,400 --> 02:40:42,400
every city,

3219
02:40:43,400 --> 02:40:44,400
no matter what size?

3220
02:40:44,400 --> 02:40:46,400
>>

3221
02:40:46,400 --> 02:40:48,800
we concentrate on just

3222
02:40:49,400 --> 02:40:52,400
about this in our primary area. Ft. Meyers

3223
02:40:52,400 --> 02:40:54,400
, sarasota.

3224
02:40:55,400 --> 02:40:57,400
>> my question, I

3225
02:40:57,400 --> 02:41:00,400
the respect that and understand that, but

3226
02:41:00,400 --> 02:41:01,400
with charlotte county with a much

3227
02:41:01,400 --> 02:41:03,400
bigger project

3228
02:41:04,400 --> 02:41:06,800
, a lot different than

3229
02:41:07,400 --> 02:41:09,800
us being lower budget

3230
02:41:10,400 --> 02:41:13,400
to pay this much money

3231
02:41:13,400 --> 02:41:15,400
for something.

3232
02:41:16,400 --> 02:41:17,400
county is a lot more work than somebody

3233
02:41:17,400 --> 02:41:19,400
in

3234
02:41:19,400 --> 02:41:21,400
our city.

3235
02:41:22,400 --> 02:41:24,400
how

3236
02:41:25,400 --> 02:41:28,400
many staff , how much more money?

3237
02:41:28,400 --> 02:41:30,400
a moralistic

3238
02:41:31,400 --> 02:41:33,400
--a more

3239
02:41:34,400 --> 02:41:36,800
realistic amount, let's say

3240
02:41:37,400 --> 02:41:39,400
$140,000

3241
02:41:40,400 --> 02:41:42,400
to $200,000 , they

3242
02:41:43,400 --> 02:41:44,400
will say, I want $200,000.

3243
02:41:44,400 --> 02:41:46,400
>>

3244
02:41:49,400 --> 02:41:52,400
I recommend that is the highest

3245
02:41:52,400 --> 02:41:54,400
we would like.

3246
02:41:58,400 --> 02:42:00,400
.

3247
02:42:01,400 --> 02:42:03,400
15

3248
02:42:04,400 --> 02:42:07,400
>> this is a sliding scale

3249
02:42:07,400 --> 02:42:08,400
?

3250
02:42:08,400 --> 02:42:10,400
>> a minimum and maximum.

3251
02:42:10,400 --> 02:42:12,400
4% increases

3252
02:42:13,400 --> 02:42:15,400
each year.

3253
02:42:25,400 --> 02:42:27,400
>> jeannine polk for

3254
02:42:28,400 --> 02:42:31,400
the record. I am concerned , we

3255
02:42:31,400 --> 02:42:33,400
are going to a

3256
02:42:33,400 --> 02:42:34,400
pathway not having a search firm for

3257
02:42:34,400 --> 02:42:36,400
the city manager.

3258
02:42:37,400 --> 02:42:39,400
they have

3259
02:42:40,400 --> 02:42:41,400
the wherewithal to draw in the best

3260
02:42:41,400 --> 02:42:43,400
of

3261
02:42:43,400 --> 02:42:45,400
the best.

3262
02:42:45,400 --> 02:42:46,400
I am concerned if we just put it on

3263
02:42:46,400 --> 02:42:48,400
the internet,

3264
02:42:52,400 --> 02:42:53,400
$30,000 or whatever we will pay them,

3265
02:42:53,400 --> 02:42:55,400
that

3266
02:42:55,400 --> 02:42:57,400
is nothing.

3267
02:42:58,400 --> 02:43:01,400
we do not know what we

3268
02:43:01,400 --> 02:43:04,400
are doing. I do not know what I am doing.

3269
02:43:04,400 --> 02:43:06,400
citizens

3270
02:43:07,400 --> 02:43:09,400
we entrust,

3271
02:43:10,400 --> 02:43:13,400
may not know what they're doing. These firms

3272
02:43:13,400 --> 02:43:17,400
know what they are doing. My concern,

3273
02:43:17,400 --> 02:43:20,400
just put it on the internet

3274
02:43:20,400 --> 02:43:22,400
--denton

3275
02:43:28,400 --> 02:43:29,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ].

3276
02:43:29,400 --> 02:43:30,400
>>

3277
02:43:30,400 --> 02:43:32,400
this is the most important decision

3278
02:43:32,400 --> 02:43:34,800
we will make in

3279
02:43:35,400 --> 02:43:37,400
our term.

3280
02:43:38,400 --> 02:43:39,400
I thought that is

3281
02:43:39,400 --> 02:43:41,400
the direction we were going, who do

3282
02:43:41,400 --> 02:43:42,400
this professionally.

3283
02:43:42,400 --> 02:43:44,400
>>

3284
02:43:44,400 --> 02:43:47,400
I was offering something else,

3285
02:43:47,400 --> 02:43:49,400
with technology,

3286
02:43:50,400 --> 02:43:52,800
we could be candidates

3287
02:43:53,400 --> 02:43:55,800
who are actively looking.

3288
02:43:56,400 --> 02:43:57,400
>> not saying not

3289
02:43:57,400 --> 02:44:01,000
to do it, just saying additional.

3290
02:44:04,400 --> 02:44:08,000
I understand what melissa is saying.

3291
02:44:08,400 --> 02:44:10,400
>>

3292
02:44:11,400 --> 02:44:13,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

3293
02:44:14,400 --> 02:44:16,400
]

3294
02:44:17,400 --> 02:44:19,400
>> yes ,

3295
02:44:20,400 --> 02:44:23,400
looking at a firm, want to also

3296
02:44:23,400 --> 02:44:25,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

3297
02:44:26,400 --> 02:44:28,400
]

3298
02:44:28,400 --> 02:44:33,200
I think that is what melissa is asking.

3299
02:44:35,400 --> 02:44:37,400
>> I concur. >>

3300
02:44:41,400 --> 02:44:44,400
do we have a job description for

3301
02:44:44,400 --> 02:44:45,400
this position?

3302
02:44:45,400 --> 02:44:47,400
>>

3303
02:44:47,400 --> 02:44:50,400
I have it right here.

3304
02:44:50,400 --> 02:44:52,400
>>

3305
02:44:52,400 --> 02:44:53,400
I would like to see it and discuss

3306
02:44:53,400 --> 02:44:55,400
it to

3307
02:44:55,400 --> 02:44:59,400
make sure we are still on the same page.

3308
02:44:59,400 --> 02:45:00,400
>> if you go with

3309
02:45:00,400 --> 02:45:02,400
a search firm, that will be a part

3310
02:45:02,400 --> 02:45:04,400
of the process.

3311
02:45:08,400 --> 02:45:10,400
>> I sidetracked everybody,

3312
02:45:11,400 --> 02:45:13,800
basically today is just

3313
02:45:14,400 --> 02:45:16,400
a direction , soliciting ,

3314
02:45:17,400 --> 02:45:19,800
bringing a search firm.

3315
02:45:20,400 --> 02:45:22,400
is that correct?

3316
02:45:23,400 --> 02:45:25,800
>> the evaluation criteria I

3317
02:45:26,400 --> 02:45:28,400
have . Structures

3318
02:45:29,400 --> 02:45:31,400
, guarantees ,

3319
02:45:32,400 --> 02:45:34,400
we want to guarantee from

3320
02:45:34,400 --> 02:45:35,400
every person --[ indiscernible -low

3321
02:45:35,400 --> 02:45:37,400
volume

3322
02:45:38,400 --> 02:45:40,400
] the methodology

3323
02:45:41,400 --> 02:45:43,800
, the approach , the timeline.

3324
02:45:50,400 --> 02:45:53,400
if you are okay with those, [ indiscernible

3325
02:45:53,400 --> 02:45:54,400
-low volume ] .

3326
02:45:54,400 --> 02:45:56,400
>>

3327
02:45:56,400 --> 02:45:58,800
a motion to approve

3328
02:46:03,400 --> 02:46:04,400
6f.

3329
02:46:04,400 --> 02:46:05,400
>> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >>

3330
02:46:05,400 --> 02:46:07,400
opposed?

3331
02:46:08,400 --> 02:46:09,400
motion carries.

3332
02:46:09,400 --> 02:46:11,400
>>

3333
02:46:11,400 --> 02:46:13,400
thank you.

3334
02:46:23,400 --> 02:46:25,400
>> if you speak

3335
02:46:25,400 --> 02:46:29,400
into the microphone, it helps the video.

3336
02:46:29,400 --> 02:46:31,400
>>

3337
02:46:32,400 --> 02:46:35,400
I am here for agenda item

3338
02:46:35,400 --> 02:46:37,400
6h, draft

3339
02:46:38,400 --> 02:46:40,400
hud --draft polk

3340
02:46:44,400 --> 02:46:46,400
amendments. -- draft

3341
02:46:47,400 --> 02:46:49,400
ldr amendments.

3342
02:46:50,400 --> 02:46:52,400
today

3343
02:46:55,400 --> 02:46:56,400
to see if council was any additional

3344
02:46:56,400 --> 02:46:58,400
revisions

3345
02:46:59,400 --> 02:47:01,800
before the public hearing

3346
02:47:02,400 --> 02:47:04,400
for zoning

3347
02:47:05,400 --> 02:47:07,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ].

3348
02:47:11,400 --> 02:47:13,400
>> debbie lux

3349
02:47:14,400 --> 02:47:15,400
for the record, thank you for working

3350
02:47:15,400 --> 02:47:17,400
so

3351
02:47:17,400 --> 02:47:19,400
hard on this. A lot

3352
02:47:19,400 --> 02:47:24,200
of hard work to figure out those numbers.

3353
02:47:26,400 --> 02:47:28,400
>> I

3354
02:47:29,400 --> 02:47:31,800
have a minor question ,

3355
02:47:32,400 --> 02:47:34,400
[

3356
02:47:34,400 --> 02:47:35,400
indiscernible -low volume ] surface

3357
02:47:35,400 --> 02:47:37,400
with brick

3358
02:47:38,400 --> 02:47:40,400
, asphalt

3359
02:47:41,400 --> 02:47:44,400
, does this have to come before

3360
02:47:44,400 --> 02:47:46,400
council ?

3361
02:47:47,400 --> 02:47:50,400
>> that was a requested change.

3362
02:47:50,400 --> 02:47:53,400
if you want it to go before council

3363
02:47:53,400 --> 02:47:55,400
.

3364
02:47:59,400 --> 02:48:01,400
>> [ indiscernible -low

3365
02:48:02,400 --> 02:48:04,400
volume ]

3366
02:48:13,400 --> 02:48:14,400
>> seems like a lot of busy work for

3367
02:48:14,400 --> 02:48:16,400
a small item.

3368
02:48:20,400 --> 02:48:22,400
>> [ indiscernible -low volume ]

3369
02:48:34,400 --> 02:48:37,400
>> are you talking about concrete,

3370
02:48:38,400 --> 02:48:39,400
janis ?

3371
02:48:39,400 --> 02:48:41,400
>>

3372
02:48:44,400 --> 02:48:46,400
it says that

3373
02:48:47,400 --> 02:48:49,400
, with recommendation

3374
02:48:50,400 --> 02:48:53,400
from public works, as approved,

3375
02:48:53,400 --> 02:48:56,400
does it just go to public works?

3376
02:48:56,400 --> 02:48:58,400
>> no.

3377
02:48:59,400 --> 02:49:01,400
>> come

3378
02:49:03,400 --> 02:49:05,400
before council for a final decision

3379
02:49:05,400 --> 02:49:07,800
but need a recommendation .

3380
02:49:11,400 --> 02:49:13,400
>>

3381
02:49:14,400 --> 02:49:15,400
a motion?

3382
02:49:15,400 --> 02:49:17,400
>> I move to

3383
02:49:17,400 --> 02:49:19,400
approved maintenance

3384
02:49:20,400 --> 02:49:22,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

3385
02:49:29,400 --> 02:49:31,400
>>

3386
02:49:38,400 --> 02:49:39,400
second.

3387
02:49:39,400 --> 02:49:41,400
>> all in favor? >> aye. >> opposed? The

3388
02:49:41,400 --> 02:49:43,800
motion carries. Thank you

3389
02:49:44,400 --> 02:49:46,400
very much. Next,

3390
02:49:50,400 --> 02:49:52,400
nominations, planning

3391
02:49:53,400 --> 02:49:54,400
and zoning.

3392
02:49:54,400 --> 02:49:56,400
>> sara welch for

3393
02:49:56,400 --> 02:49:58,400
the record.

3394
02:50:02,400 --> 02:50:04,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

3395
02:50:08,400 --> 02:50:10,400
council may nominate

3396
02:50:11,400 --> 02:50:13,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

3397
02:50:17,400 --> 02:50:19,400
>> I

3398
02:50:20,400 --> 02:50:22,400
would love

3399
02:50:23,400 --> 02:50:25,800
--[ indiscernible -low volume ]

3400
02:50:26,400 --> 02:50:28,400
>>

3401
02:50:40,400 --> 02:50:41,400
second.

3402
02:50:41,400 --> 02:50:42,400
>> all in favor? >> aye. >> opposed? Motion carries. Do you want to do

3403
02:50:42,400 --> 02:50:44,400
your report?

3404
02:50:44,400 --> 02:50:46,400
>>

3405
02:50:47,400 --> 02:50:49,400
[ indiscernible -muffled ]

3406
02:50:50,400 --> 02:50:52,400
qualifying

3407
02:50:53,400 --> 02:50:55,400
period from tonight

3408
02:50:56,400 --> 02:50:58,400
to

3409
02:50:59,400 --> 02:51:01,400
--june 9th

3410
02:51:02,400 --> 02:51:04,400
to june 13th

3411
02:51:05,400 --> 02:51:07,400
, 25 .

3412
02:51:08,400 --> 02:51:10,400
2025

3413
02:51:11,400 --> 02:51:13,400
. [ indiscernible -low volume ]

3414
02:51:19,400 --> 02:51:23,400
the primary election held on august 19th

3415
02:51:23,400 --> 02:51:25,400
--[

3416
02:51:26,400 --> 02:51:28,400
indiscernible -muffled ]

3417
02:51:29,400 --> 02:51:31,400
>> melissa ?

3418
02:51:33,400 --> 02:51:37,000
>> I have a list of items

3419
02:51:39,400 --> 02:51:41,800
, we had a meeting

3420
02:51:45,400 --> 02:51:46,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

3421
02:51:46,400 --> 02:51:47,400
they brought forth an opportunity

3422
02:51:47,400 --> 02:51:50,400
to consolidate city operations to

3423
02:51:51,400 --> 02:51:53,400
one building.

3424
02:51:57,400 --> 02:51:59,800
bringing it up to

3425
02:52:00,400 --> 02:52:02,400
hurricane standards.

3426
02:52:03,400 --> 02:52:06,400
one city council to consider

3427
02:52:06,400 --> 02:52:08,800
that option, they were

3428
02:52:15,400 --> 02:52:17,400
[ indiscernible -low

3429
02:52:18,400 --> 02:52:20,400
volume ]

3430
02:52:21,400 --> 02:52:23,400
>>

3431
02:52:24,400 --> 02:52:26,400
council chambers ?

3432
02:52:27,400 --> 02:52:29,400
>>

3433
02:52:29,400 --> 02:52:30,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

3434
02:52:30,400 --> 02:52:32,400
>> jeannine polk

3435
02:52:33,400 --> 02:52:35,400
, in the city,

3436
02:52:42,400 --> 02:52:45,400
where is the $50 ? That is a

3437
02:52:45,400 --> 02:52:47,400
ridiculous price.

3438
02:52:48,400 --> 02:52:51,400
if the city council wants

3439
02:52:51,400 --> 02:52:54,400
to move in the direction,

3440
02:52:54,400 --> 02:52:56,400
you will have people say, oh,

3441
02:52:56,400 --> 02:52:57,400
no.

3442
02:52:57,400 --> 02:52:59,400
>> [ indiscernible -low volume

3443
02:53:00,400 --> 02:53:02,400
]

3444
02:53:03,400 --> 02:53:04,400
correct?

3445
02:53:04,400 --> 02:53:06,400
>> correct.

3446
02:53:06,400 --> 02:53:08,400
>> [

3447
02:53:09,400 --> 02:53:10,400
indiscernible -low volume ]

3448
02:53:10,400 --> 02:53:12,400
>>

3449
02:53:12,400 --> 02:53:14,400
1978

3450
02:53:15,400 --> 02:53:17,400
addition a city

3451
02:53:18,400 --> 02:53:21,400
hall chambers is about complete.

3452
02:53:21,400 --> 02:53:23,800
staff is doing the

3453
02:53:24,400 --> 02:53:26,400
final reviews.

3454
02:53:27,400 --> 02:53:29,400
a lot of people have

3455
02:53:29,400 --> 02:53:33,000
been interested in the tourist attraction

3456
02:53:33,400 --> 02:53:35,400
,

3457
02:53:36,400 --> 02:53:37,400
we have been working with our city

3458
02:53:37,400 --> 02:53:38,400
police

3459
02:53:38,400 --> 02:53:39,400
department [ indiscernible -background

3460
02:53:39,400 --> 02:53:41,400
noise ]

3461
02:53:41,400 --> 02:53:45,000
with necessary sign-ups for those vessels,

3462
02:53:45,400 --> 02:53:47,400
all four

3463
02:53:48,400 --> 02:53:50,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

3464
02:53:51,400 --> 02:53:53,800
I am working on

3465
02:53:54,400 --> 02:53:56,400
the date.

3466
02:54:06,400 --> 02:54:08,400
[ indiscernible -

3467
02:54:09,400 --> 02:54:11,400
low volume ]

3468
02:54:12,400 --> 02:54:15,400
we have the draft scope for the

3469
02:54:15,400 --> 02:54:17,800
dock master. City staff,

3470
02:54:18,400 --> 02:54:21,400
what the management company does

3471
02:54:21,400 --> 02:54:23,400
for us.

3472
02:54:24,400 --> 02:54:26,400
we are staffed to handle

3473
02:54:26,400 --> 02:54:27,400
the other things [ indiscernible -

3474
02:54:27,400 --> 02:54:29,400
low volume ] .

3475
02:54:35,400 --> 02:54:36,400
from the landscaping to the electrical,

3476
02:54:36,400 --> 02:54:38,400
air conditioning,

3477
02:54:39,400 --> 02:54:41,400
anything that

3478
02:54:42,400 --> 02:54:44,400
land side, that would

3479
02:54:44,400 --> 02:54:48,000
be responsible for the entire building.

3480
02:54:48,400 --> 02:54:49,400
looking at potentially being able

3481
02:54:49,400 --> 02:54:51,400
to

3482
02:54:51,400 --> 02:54:54,400
have staff --add to staff,

3483
02:54:56,400 --> 02:55:02,400
I do not know if we are ready for that.

3484
02:55:06,400 --> 02:55:08,800
any other conversation you

3485
02:55:09,400 --> 02:55:12,400
may want to have on that issue?

3486
02:55:12,400 --> 02:55:14,400
>>

3487
02:55:14,400 --> 02:55:15,400
is the management company doing the

3488
02:55:15,400 --> 02:55:17,400
landscaping themselves?

3489
02:55:18,400 --> 02:55:20,400
or hiring someone?

3490
02:55:21,400 --> 02:55:23,400
>>

3491
02:55:24,400 --> 02:55:27,400
I am not sure . We would have

3492
02:55:27,400 --> 02:55:31,000
to check with him on that.

3493
02:55:32,400 --> 02:55:33,400
the solicitation [ indiscernible -

3494
02:55:33,400 --> 02:55:35,400
low volume

3495
02:55:36,400 --> 02:55:38,400
]

3496
02:55:42,400 --> 02:55:45,400
we will work on the

3497
02:55:45,400 --> 02:55:47,400
most cost-effective.

3498
02:55:48,400 --> 02:55:50,800
the document only solves

3499
02:55:51,400 --> 02:55:53,400
one portion.

3500
02:55:57,400 --> 02:56:00,400
>> do we have a job description

3501
02:56:00,400 --> 02:56:01,400
for the dock master?

3502
02:56:01,400 --> 02:56:02,400
>>

3503
02:56:02,400 --> 02:56:05,400
just about ready for publication.

3504
02:56:06,400 --> 02:56:08,400
>> open for

3505
02:56:09,400 --> 02:56:10,400
applications?

3506
02:56:10,400 --> 02:56:12,400
>> it is not.

3507
02:56:23,400 --> 02:56:27,000
another item that keeps coming up,

3508
02:56:27,400 --> 02:56:29,400
the review

3509
02:56:30,400 --> 02:56:32,400
,

3510
02:56:33,400 --> 02:56:35,400
what are you

3511
02:56:35,400 --> 02:56:38,400
looking for, what information do I

3512
02:56:38,400 --> 02:56:39,400
forward you [ indiscernible -low volume

3513
02:56:39,400 --> 02:56:41,400
]

3514
02:56:42,400 --> 02:56:44,400
what are your

3515
02:56:45,400 --> 02:56:47,400
wishes

3516
02:56:48,400 --> 02:56:49,400
there?

3517
02:56:49,400 --> 02:56:51,400
>> melissa.

3518
02:56:51,400 --> 02:56:53,400
the biggest confusion.

3519
02:56:57,400 --> 02:56:59,400
what the tenant

3520
02:57:00,400 --> 02:57:02,800
is responsible for. They

3521
02:57:03,400 --> 02:57:06,400
had to read it and sign it. To

3522
02:57:06,400 --> 02:57:08,800
continue with those leases,

3523
02:57:09,400 --> 02:57:11,400
from taxpayer dollars,

3524
02:57:12,400 --> 02:57:15,400
has to be written in a

3525
02:57:15,400 --> 02:57:18,400
certain way, outsource that to a leasing company

3526
02:57:18,400 --> 02:57:21,400
and taken off the shoulders of the city.

3527
02:57:21,400 --> 02:57:24,400
we should not be in the

3528
02:57:24,400 --> 02:57:26,400
rental business.

3529
02:57:26,400 --> 02:57:27,400
looking for another entity to take

3530
02:57:27,400 --> 02:57:30,400
that over. My other request was

3531
02:57:30,400 --> 02:57:32,400
to have --

3532
02:57:32,400 --> 02:57:33,400
when the floodgates would be put up.

3533
02:57:33,400 --> 02:57:35,400
another concern

3534
02:57:36,400 --> 02:57:38,800
, that tenants had come

3535
02:57:39,400 --> 02:57:42,400
a storm is a certain amount

3536
02:57:42,400 --> 02:57:44,400
of miles saturated, when

3537
02:57:44,400 --> 02:57:45,400
the floodgates are put up you do not

3538
02:57:45,400 --> 02:57:47,400
get anything,

3539
02:57:48,400 --> 02:57:50,400
interrupts business .

3540
02:57:51,400 --> 02:57:53,800
the flipside, they are

3541
02:57:54,400 --> 02:57:55,400
not up. I would like to have a more

3542
02:57:55,400 --> 02:57:57,400
definitive. This

3543
02:57:57,400 --> 02:57:58,400
is when they can expect those gates

3544
02:57:58,400 --> 02:58:00,400
to

3545
02:58:00,400 --> 02:58:02,400
go up.

3546
02:58:03,400 --> 02:58:05,400
a policy,

3547
02:58:06,400 --> 02:58:07,400
however.

3548
02:58:07,400 --> 02:58:08,400
>>

3549
02:58:08,400 --> 02:58:09,400
jeannine polk for the record. Just

3550
02:58:09,400 --> 02:58:11,400
to see

3551
02:58:12,400 --> 02:58:14,400
when are the

3552
02:58:15,400 --> 02:58:18,400
contracts up. It could be a viable solution

3553
02:58:18,400 --> 02:58:20,400
, a

3554
02:58:21,400 --> 02:58:23,400
city employee there

3555
02:58:24,400 --> 02:58:26,400
in those buildings.

3556
02:58:27,400 --> 02:58:29,400
why not use them? Why

3557
02:58:29,400 --> 02:58:33,400
not use what we have to conserve?

3558
02:58:33,400 --> 02:58:36,400
I feel it is an option

3559
02:58:36,400 --> 02:58:38,400
for us.

3560
02:58:42,400 --> 02:58:44,400
>> I agree

3561
02:58:47,400 --> 02:58:48,400
with that. If there is a flood, we

3562
02:58:48,400 --> 02:58:50,400
can't go

3563
02:58:54,400 --> 02:58:56,400
through what we

3564
02:58:57,400 --> 02:58:59,400
went through.

3565
02:59:00,400 --> 02:59:02,400
plus, we can

3566
02:59:06,400 --> 02:59:08,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

3567
02:59:12,400 --> 02:59:14,400
>> are

3568
02:59:15,400 --> 02:59:17,800
we vacating those spots ?

3569
02:59:18,400 --> 02:59:20,400
>>

3570
02:59:21,400 --> 02:59:24,400
dependent upon as having space available

3571
02:59:24,400 --> 02:59:26,400
to continue operations

3572
02:59:27,400 --> 02:59:28,400
there.

3573
02:59:28,400 --> 02:59:30,400
>> so,

3574
02:59:31,400 --> 02:59:33,400
greg julian,

3575
02:59:34,400 --> 02:59:35,400
I talked about the

3576
02:59:35,400 --> 02:59:37,400
tenants at the airport and they are

3577
02:59:37,400 --> 02:59:39,400
concerned, they want to know

3578
02:59:39,400 --> 02:59:43,000
what you have been talking about.

3579
02:59:43,400 --> 02:59:45,400
they want clarity

3580
02:59:46,400 --> 02:59:48,400
.

3581
02:59:48,400 --> 02:59:52,400
so they are not caught in the same situation.

3582
02:59:52,400 --> 02:59:54,400
insurance company

3583
02:59:55,400 --> 02:59:57,800
, they're not getting anything.

3584
02:59:58,400 --> 03:00:00,800
to help them out.

3585
03:00:01,400 --> 03:00:03,400
I want to see some urgency about

3586
03:00:03,400 --> 03:00:07,400
these leases and make sure they are

3587
03:00:07,400 --> 03:00:10,400
clear and we are clear .

3588
03:00:10,400 --> 03:00:12,400
that they

3589
03:00:12,400 --> 03:00:16,400
need communication as to what may happen

3590
03:00:16,400 --> 03:00:18,400
in hurricane season .

3591
03:00:19,400 --> 03:00:21,400
they are not

3592
03:00:22,400 --> 03:00:25,400
designed to keep water out.

3593
03:00:25,400 --> 03:00:28,400
do some repairs to the

3594
03:00:28,400 --> 03:00:30,400
existing ones

3595
03:00:31,400 --> 03:00:34,400
but we need to look at

3596
03:00:34,400 --> 03:00:37,400
a way of keeping water out of

3597
03:00:37,400 --> 03:00:39,400
the door frames.

3598
03:00:39,400 --> 03:00:42,400
>> I do have additional comments.

3599
03:00:43,400 --> 03:00:45,400
public works director,

3600
03:00:46,400 --> 03:00:49,400
he spoke to the individual

3601
03:00:49,400 --> 03:00:51,800
, renting those spaces, concerns

3602
03:00:52,400 --> 03:00:54,400
about modifications

3603
03:00:55,400 --> 03:00:57,400
to the

3604
03:00:57,400 --> 03:01:00,400
flat-panel system. On the parallel,

3605
03:01:01,400 --> 03:01:03,400
in tallahassee ,

3606
03:01:07,400 --> 03:01:09,400
contact from

3607
03:01:09,400 --> 03:01:13,400
a member of office and budget in medication

3608
03:01:13,400 --> 03:01:15,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

3609
03:01:19,400 --> 03:01:21,400
.

3610
03:01:22,400 --> 03:01:25,400
we are working on that.

3611
03:01:25,400 --> 03:01:27,400
how

3612
03:01:28,400 --> 03:01:31,400
we are going to staff this ,

3613
03:01:31,400 --> 03:01:33,400
communicating that .

3614
03:01:34,400 --> 03:01:37,400
when we put those panels up early

3615
03:01:37,400 --> 03:01:39,400
,

3616
03:01:39,400 --> 03:01:43,400
the tenants are not happy with that.

3617
03:01:43,400 --> 03:01:45,400
not happy

3618
03:01:45,400 --> 03:01:49,400
with what happened as a result of the

3619
03:01:49,400 --> 03:01:51,400
flood.

3620
03:01:55,400 --> 03:01:58,400
we had a contract in place

3621
03:01:58,400 --> 03:02:00,400
. The

3622
03:02:01,400 --> 03:02:05,600
city council made the decision to provide

3623
03:02:07,400 --> 03:02:09,400
[

3624
03:02:10,400 --> 03:02:12,400
indiscernible -low volume ]

3625
03:02:13,400 --> 03:02:16,400
council will have to decide

3626
03:02:16,400 --> 03:02:18,800
the balance of interest

3627
03:02:19,400 --> 03:02:20,400
.

3628
03:02:20,400 --> 03:02:22,400
>>

3629
03:02:22,400 --> 03:02:24,800
there is the perception

3630
03:02:25,400 --> 03:02:27,400
whether or

3631
03:02:28,400 --> 03:02:31,400
not they would've done anything

3632
03:02:31,400 --> 03:02:34,400
, nobody really knows. I guess

3633
03:02:34,400 --> 03:02:37,400
we do not , cannot guarantee they

3634
03:02:37,400 --> 03:02:39,800
will not be flooded. [

3635
03:02:40,400 --> 03:02:42,800
indiscernible - low volume ]

3636
03:02:43,400 --> 03:02:46,400
there is not really a way to promise anything.

3637
03:02:46,400 --> 03:02:50,600
we do not want to be sued

3638
03:02:52,400 --> 03:02:54,400
.

3639
03:03:01,400 --> 03:03:04,400
>> jeannine polk for the record.

3640
03:03:13,400 --> 03:03:15,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

3641
03:03:16,400 --> 03:03:17,400
]

3642
03:03:17,400 --> 03:03:19,400
>> I am asking for

3643
03:03:19,400 --> 03:03:21,400
more input

3644
03:03:22,400 --> 03:03:25,400
, so you can have the information

3645
03:03:25,400 --> 03:03:28,400
you need in front of you.

3646
03:03:28,400 --> 03:03:29,400
>>

3647
03:03:29,400 --> 03:03:31,400
we want to look at the existing leases

3648
03:03:31,400 --> 03:03:33,400
and what we want

3649
03:03:33,400 --> 03:03:34,400
to do, to see if the city should take

3650
03:03:34,400 --> 03:03:36,400
over the spots.

3651
03:03:37,400 --> 03:03:39,400
>> and

3652
03:03:40,400 --> 03:03:42,800
policy on the floodgates.

3653
03:03:48,400 --> 03:03:52,400
>> couple of events we have coming up,

3654
03:03:52,400 --> 03:03:54,400
the 24th , planning session at

3655
03:03:54,400 --> 03:03:55,400
the library. Listening session for

3656
03:03:55,400 --> 03:03:57,400
my

3657
03:03:58,400 --> 03:04:00,400
council . To hear

3658
03:04:01,400 --> 03:04:03,400
from the public .

3659
03:04:04,400 --> 03:04:06,400
where they

3660
03:04:06,400 --> 03:04:07,400
want to see the city go in the future

3661
03:04:07,400 --> 03:04:09,400
and provide thoughts

3662
03:04:13,400 --> 03:04:15,400
on what will

3663
03:04:15,400 --> 03:04:19,400
make their lives better in the city.

3664
03:04:19,400 --> 03:04:22,400
very excited for that session.

3665
03:04:22,400 --> 03:04:24,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

3666
03:04:25,400 --> 03:04:27,400
] a public workshop

3667
03:04:28,400 --> 03:04:30,400
from 5:30

3668
03:04:31,400 --> 03:04:34,400
to 7:30 at st. Mary's church.

3669
03:04:37,400 --> 03:04:39,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ]

3670
03:04:43,400 --> 03:04:45,400
staff

3671
03:04:46,400 --> 03:04:48,400
and council representatives [

3672
03:04:48,400 --> 03:04:50,400
indiscernible -background noise ]

3673
03:04:52,400 --> 03:04:55,400
looking for city commentary in

3674
03:04:55,400 --> 03:04:57,800
the area and support

3675
03:04:58,400 --> 03:05:00,800
[ indiscernible - low volume ]

3676
03:05:07,400 --> 03:05:09,400
development study they

3677
03:05:10,400 --> 03:05:12,800
will be writing grants,

3678
03:05:13,400 --> 03:05:15,400
looking for letters

3679
03:05:16,400 --> 03:05:19,400
of support . With your permission,

3680
03:05:19,400 --> 03:05:21,400
I will

3681
03:05:25,400 --> 03:05:27,800
put this on letterhead

3682
03:05:28,400 --> 03:05:31,400
for the city of punta gorda .

3683
03:05:31,400 --> 03:05:33,400
another update,

3684
03:05:33,400 --> 03:05:34,400
we talked about the website upgrades

3685
03:05:34,400 --> 03:05:36,400
that

3686
03:05:37,400 --> 03:05:39,400
are necessary.

3687
03:05:40,400 --> 03:05:42,400
utilizing our credits

3688
03:05:43,400 --> 03:05:45,400
we arty have.

3689
03:05:45,400 --> 03:05:46,400
not a significant investment in dollars

3690
03:05:46,400 --> 03:05:48,400
to refresh

3691
03:05:49,400 --> 03:05:51,400
, upgrade the website.

3692
03:05:52,400 --> 03:05:54,400
we want to make sure we

3693
03:05:54,400 --> 03:05:55,400
are providing information on our projects

3694
03:05:55,400 --> 03:05:57,400
and

3695
03:05:58,400 --> 03:06:00,800
keep people updated on

3696
03:06:01,400 --> 03:06:03,400
the projects. Go to the website

3697
03:06:03,400 --> 03:06:07,400
to look at the projects that are happening

3698
03:06:07,400 --> 03:06:10,400
and how they are progressing.

3699
03:06:10,400 --> 03:06:13,400
we have done a lot of research into tools

3700
03:06:13,400 --> 03:06:15,400
, software .

3701
03:06:16,400 --> 03:06:18,400
we already have

3702
03:06:19,400 --> 03:06:21,400
the tool.

3703
03:06:22,400 --> 03:06:24,400
within that,

3704
03:06:25,400 --> 03:06:27,400
we will purchase

3705
03:06:28,400 --> 03:06:31,400
more of the training credits.

3706
03:06:34,400 --> 03:06:36,400
project managers.

3707
03:06:37,400 --> 03:06:39,400
[ indiscernible -

3708
03:06:40,400 --> 03:06:42,400
low volume ]

3709
03:06:43,400 --> 03:06:45,400
staff is

3710
03:06:46,400 --> 03:06:48,800
working on the moratorium

3711
03:06:49,400 --> 03:06:51,400
on storage units.

3712
03:06:58,400 --> 03:07:00,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

3713
03:07:01,400 --> 03:07:03,400
] coming to council

3714
03:07:04,400 --> 03:07:06,400
for final adoption .

3715
03:07:07,400 --> 03:07:09,400
>>

3716
03:07:10,400 --> 03:07:12,400
greg julian. Verifying

3717
03:07:13,400 --> 03:07:15,400
the facility

3718
03:07:16,400 --> 03:07:18,400
already the exception

3719
03:07:19,400 --> 03:07:21,800
, is that great grandfathered?

3720
03:07:22,400 --> 03:07:24,800
a letter from his

3721
03:07:25,400 --> 03:07:27,400
attorney yesterday

3722
03:07:28,400 --> 03:07:30,800
that , is that grandfathered?

3723
03:07:34,400 --> 03:07:35,400
carwashes going forward ?

3724
03:07:35,400 --> 03:07:37,400
>> so ,

3725
03:07:37,400 --> 03:07:39,400
I was provided

3726
03:07:40,400 --> 03:07:42,800
with a copy of

3727
03:07:43,400 --> 03:07:45,400
the appeal that

3728
03:07:46,400 --> 03:07:48,800
was submitted with respect

3729
03:07:49,400 --> 03:07:51,400
to that. Ask zoning

3730
03:07:51,400 --> 03:07:52,400
officials questions pertaining to

3731
03:07:52,400 --> 03:07:54,400
that view.

3732
03:07:55,400 --> 03:07:57,800
the determination this morning

3733
03:07:58,400 --> 03:08:00,400
was that

3734
03:08:01,400 --> 03:08:03,800
the heel was not

3735
03:08:07,400 --> 03:08:09,400
--as that [ indiscernible -

3736
03:08:10,400 --> 03:08:12,400
background noise ]

3737
03:08:13,400 --> 03:08:15,400
the person submitting

3738
03:08:16,400 --> 03:08:19,400
the appeal did not waste

3739
03:08:19,400 --> 03:08:22,400
any opposition and comments at

3740
03:08:22,400 --> 03:08:24,400
the configuring during

3741
03:08:25,400 --> 03:08:27,400
special sessions.

3742
03:08:37,400 --> 03:08:38,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ] both

3743
03:08:38,400 --> 03:08:40,400
of which

3744
03:08:40,400 --> 03:08:43,400
are mandatory requirements . The right

3745
03:08:44,400 --> 03:08:47,400
to appeal. As a result,

3746
03:08:47,400 --> 03:08:49,400
deem the

3747
03:08:50,400 --> 03:08:52,400
special exception as final.

3748
03:08:52,400 --> 03:08:54,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

3749
03:08:56,400 --> 03:08:58,400
]

3750
03:08:59,400 --> 03:09:00,400
it would be

3751
03:09:00,400 --> 03:09:04,000
grandfathered with respect to initial action.

3752
03:09:08,400 --> 03:09:10,400
>> [ indiscernible -low volume ]

3753
03:09:20,400 --> 03:09:23,400
that was the confusion here.

3754
03:09:23,400 --> 03:09:25,400
allowing storage unit to

3755
03:09:25,400 --> 03:09:26,400
be placed there, despite [ indiscernible

3756
03:09:26,400 --> 03:09:28,400
-low volume

3757
03:09:28,400 --> 03:09:29,400
] .

3758
03:09:29,400 --> 03:09:30,400
>> that is correct. [ indiscernible

3759
03:09:30,400 --> 03:09:31,400
-

3760
03:09:31,400 --> 03:09:32,400
background noise ] [ indiscernible

3761
03:09:32,400 --> 03:09:34,400
-low volume ]

3762
03:09:34,400 --> 03:09:35,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

3763
03:09:35,400 --> 03:09:36,400
]

3764
03:09:36,400 --> 03:09:38,400
>>

3765
03:09:38,400 --> 03:09:41,400
staff has developed more complaints of

3766
03:09:41,400 --> 03:09:43,400
management according to

3767
03:09:44,400 --> 03:09:46,800
for the cip projects,

3768
03:09:47,400 --> 03:09:50,400
we put together a nice tool

3769
03:09:50,400 --> 03:09:52,400
,

3770
03:09:53,400 --> 03:09:55,400
we will have the ability to

3771
03:09:55,400 --> 03:09:57,400
have reporting which will allow us

3772
03:09:57,400 --> 03:09:59,400
to pull information from the systems

3773
03:09:59,400 --> 03:10:01,400
that is

3774
03:10:02,400 --> 03:10:05,400
--our information is going into.

3775
03:10:05,400 --> 03:10:08,400
in a more complex subway

3776
03:10:08,400 --> 03:10:10,800
to the city council.

3777
03:10:11,400 --> 03:10:13,400
february,

3778
03:10:17,400 --> 03:10:20,400
we have our listening sessions,

3779
03:10:23,400 --> 03:10:25,400
physical budget,

3780
03:10:26,400 --> 03:10:28,400
cip

3781
03:10:29,400 --> 03:10:30,400
2025 updates coming up

3782
03:10:30,400 --> 03:10:32,800
, and long-range financial planning.

3783
03:10:34,400 --> 03:10:38,000
it is really important for residents

3784
03:10:38,400 --> 03:10:40,400
to attend this

3785
03:10:41,400 --> 03:10:43,400
, march 22nd

3786
03:10:44,400 --> 03:10:47,400
, city staff will be asking

3787
03:10:47,400 --> 03:10:49,400
--looking

3788
03:10:50,400 --> 03:10:52,400
for direction ,

3789
03:10:52,400 --> 03:10:55,400
answering questions in the community

3790
03:10:59,400 --> 03:11:01,400
[ indiscernible -low volume

3791
03:11:01,400 --> 03:11:04,400
] . We encourage residents to attend.

3792
03:11:05,400 --> 03:11:07,400
I wanted

3793
03:11:08,400 --> 03:11:10,400
to mention pickleball,

3794
03:11:11,400 --> 03:11:13,400
a number of ideas from

3795
03:11:13,400 --> 03:11:16,400
the community , thoughts from the

3796
03:11:17,400 --> 03:11:19,400
pickleball community.

3797
03:11:20,400 --> 03:11:22,400
mr.

3798
03:11:23,400 --> 03:11:25,400
edwards suggested

3799
03:11:26,400 --> 03:11:28,800
we design it , have

3800
03:11:29,400 --> 03:11:31,400
our staff

3801
03:11:31,400 --> 03:11:35,400
weigh in, get comments from the public.

3802
03:11:35,400 --> 03:11:36,400
if you

3803
03:11:36,400 --> 03:11:38,400
have anything, forward those along

3804
03:11:38,400 --> 03:11:40,400
to us.

3805
03:11:41,400 --> 03:11:43,400
the gofundme page,

3806
03:11:44,400 --> 03:11:46,400
pickleball players

3807
03:11:46,400 --> 03:11:50,000
are supporting the investment in some

3808
03:11:50,400 --> 03:11:52,400
trees and potentially

3809
03:11:57,400 --> 03:11:59,400
benches. Be willing to help with the fence they are

3810
03:11:59,400 --> 03:12:01,400
looking at

3811
03:12:02,400 --> 03:12:04,400
requesting.

3812
03:12:05,400 --> 03:12:07,800
have good community engagement.

3813
03:12:08,400 --> 03:12:10,400
anyone who has an interest

3814
03:12:10,400 --> 03:12:11,400
and passion , may be interested in

3815
03:12:11,400 --> 03:12:13,400
something

3816
03:12:14,400 --> 03:12:17,400
like that. We have a resident asking

3817
03:12:17,400 --> 03:12:19,400
information about

3818
03:12:20,400 --> 03:12:23,400
the website, our planning board.

3819
03:12:23,400 --> 03:12:25,400
that is something we can make

3820
03:12:25,400 --> 03:12:26,400
more prevalent. Our list of projects

3821
03:12:26,400 --> 03:12:28,400
in

3822
03:12:29,400 --> 03:12:31,400
various stages,

3823
03:12:32,400 --> 03:12:34,400
we

3824
03:12:34,400 --> 03:12:38,400
have a lot of water projects going on.

3825
03:12:38,400 --> 03:12:41,400
we have a grant application in

3826
03:12:41,400 --> 03:12:43,400
.

3827
03:12:44,400 --> 03:12:46,800
within the cip plan,

3828
03:12:47,400 --> 03:12:49,400
how producers , upgrades

3829
03:12:50,400 --> 03:12:52,400
as well.

3830
03:12:53,400 --> 03:12:56,400
we are working with the rate study.

3831
03:12:56,400 --> 03:12:58,800
discussions with council to

3832
03:12:59,400 --> 03:13:01,400
serve that process

3833
03:13:01,400 --> 03:13:02,400
should we look at alternative funding

3834
03:13:02,400 --> 03:13:04,400
so that

3835
03:13:04,400 --> 03:13:08,400
we can get the support and water projects done.

3836
03:13:08,400 --> 03:13:10,800
get that information published.

3837
03:13:11,400 --> 03:13:14,400
emergency meetings with the city

3838
03:13:14,400 --> 03:13:16,400
.

3839
03:13:19,400 --> 03:13:20,400
it would not be a special meeting

3840
03:13:20,400 --> 03:13:22,400
.

3841
03:13:23,400 --> 03:13:25,800
we can use that

3842
03:13:40,400 --> 03:13:41,400
tool, too. I will stop right there. [ laughter ]

3843
03:13:41,400 --> 03:13:42,400
>> mr. Levin? >> nothing further, thanks

3844
03:13:42,400 --> 03:13:43,400
you.

3845
03:13:43,400 --> 03:13:45,400
>>

3846
03:13:47,400 --> 03:13:48,400
melissa?

3847
03:13:48,400 --> 03:13:50,800
>> the duplexes on magdalena?

3848
03:13:56,400 --> 03:13:58,400
sorry, rachel.

3849
03:14:02,400 --> 03:14:04,400
>>

3850
03:14:05,400 --> 03:14:08,400
that is still in progress.

3851
03:14:08,400 --> 03:14:11,400
was evaluated and going through,

3852
03:14:14,400 --> 03:14:17,400
we did note that the

3853
03:14:17,400 --> 03:14:20,400
development must --may not be the

3854
03:14:20,400 --> 03:14:22,400
best route,

3855
03:14:23,400 --> 03:14:26,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ] we are

3856
03:14:26,400 --> 03:14:29,400
now exploring the potential of

3857
03:14:29,400 --> 03:14:31,400
a neighborhood

3858
03:14:32,400 --> 03:14:33,400
residential district

3859
03:14:33,400 --> 03:14:35,400
which would allow for residential

3860
03:14:35,400 --> 03:14:37,400
uses and

3861
03:14:38,400 --> 03:14:40,800
cap the size at

3862
03:14:41,400 --> 03:14:43,400
two units.

3863
03:14:44,400 --> 03:14:47,400
we are still working on that

3864
03:14:47,400 --> 03:14:52,200
and it will go before planning and zoning.

3865
03:14:53,400 --> 03:14:55,800
>> I went out and

3866
03:14:56,400 --> 03:14:58,800
did a three hour,

3867
03:14:59,400 --> 03:15:01,400
it would've been longer, but

3868
03:15:01,400 --> 03:15:04,400
I had to leave, with tom spencer --

3869
03:15:04,400 --> 03:15:05,400
if you have not been out there, I

3870
03:15:05,400 --> 03:15:07,400
would suggest, take

3871
03:15:08,400 --> 03:15:11,400
a tour with tom. The

3872
03:15:11,400 --> 03:15:13,800
knowledge, who knew water

3873
03:15:14,400 --> 03:15:17,400
could be so fascinating? It opened

3874
03:15:17,400 --> 03:15:20,400
my eyes , especially around the

3875
03:15:20,400 --> 03:15:21,400
budget talks. I appreciate that. Tom, I

3876
03:15:21,400 --> 03:15:23,400
will give

3877
03:15:23,400 --> 03:15:25,400
you the spotlight,

3878
03:15:26,400 --> 03:15:28,400
maybe having some public

3879
03:15:28,400 --> 03:15:32,400
tours, I think that is a great idea.

3880
03:15:32,400 --> 03:15:34,400
the more

3881
03:15:34,400 --> 03:15:35,400
the public and see what is going on

3882
03:15:35,400 --> 03:15:37,800
and understand, that is

3883
03:15:38,400 --> 03:15:39,400
it.

3884
03:15:39,400 --> 03:15:41,400
>> janis ? >>

3885
03:15:41,400 --> 03:15:44,400
I want to commend our public works

3886
03:15:44,400 --> 03:15:47,400
for last week or so , I was

3887
03:15:47,400 --> 03:15:50,400
riding my bike and going by the

3888
03:15:50,400 --> 03:15:53,400
book club , there was our

3889
03:15:53,400 --> 03:15:56,400
giant truck with the water pressure

3890
03:15:56,400 --> 03:15:58,800
hose and a section

3891
03:15:59,400 --> 03:16:01,800
hose. If the pipe

3892
03:16:02,400 --> 03:16:04,400
is this

3893
03:16:04,400 --> 03:16:05,400
big, silt and sand was six inches

3894
03:16:05,400 --> 03:16:07,800
from the top. They

3895
03:16:08,400 --> 03:16:10,400
were cleaning

3896
03:16:10,400 --> 03:16:14,400
drains. We thank you and commend you,

3897
03:16:14,400 --> 03:16:16,400
and want to see

3898
03:16:16,400 --> 03:16:17,400
more of that, which I am sure you

3899
03:16:17,400 --> 03:16:20,400
are doing. Cleaning drains, so

3900
03:16:20,400 --> 03:16:23,400
concerned about we love the progress.

3901
03:16:23,400 --> 03:16:24,400
thank you very much.

3902
03:16:24,400 --> 03:16:26,400
>> jeannine ?

3903
03:16:27,400 --> 03:16:29,400
>>

3904
03:16:30,400 --> 03:16:32,400
thank you,

3905
03:16:35,400 --> 03:16:36,400
I got in touch with her about the

3906
03:16:36,400 --> 03:16:37,400
tour buses. Has

3907
03:16:37,400 --> 03:16:41,000
anybody seen those throughout the city?

3908
03:16:42,400 --> 03:16:43,400
a person lives in

3909
03:16:43,400 --> 03:16:45,400
downtown in my district was saying,

3910
03:16:45,400 --> 03:16:47,400
why

3911
03:16:48,400 --> 03:16:49,400
are these buses here?

3912
03:16:49,400 --> 03:16:51,400
they were parked on a small road and

3913
03:16:51,400 --> 03:16:53,400
it was concerning

3914
03:16:54,400 --> 03:16:55,400
to the residents

3915
03:16:55,400 --> 03:16:57,400
that emergency vehicles could not

3916
03:16:57,400 --> 03:16:59,400
get by , or

3917
03:17:00,400 --> 03:17:02,800
traffic connected by. We

3918
03:17:03,400 --> 03:17:05,400
got in touch with you . Those

3919
03:17:05,400 --> 03:17:06,400
tour buses , we are going to fight

3920
03:17:06,400 --> 03:17:07,400
a place

3921
03:17:07,400 --> 03:17:09,400
for them to safely part so they are

3922
03:17:09,400 --> 03:17:12,400
not in the way of

3923
03:17:12,400 --> 03:17:15,400
traffic. Not sure if we did not

3924
03:17:15,400 --> 03:17:18,400
realize that but it seems to be

3925
03:17:18,400 --> 03:17:21,400
an issue . I do not think it

3926
03:17:21,400 --> 03:17:22,400
will be an issue anymore.

3927
03:17:22,400 --> 03:17:23,400
>>

3928
03:17:23,400 --> 03:17:27,400
in contact with the tour company that he

3929
03:17:27,400 --> 03:17:28,400
--

3930
03:17:28,400 --> 03:17:30,400
in contact with the tour company,

3931
03:17:30,400 --> 03:17:32,400
they had a new driver

3932
03:17:32,400 --> 03:17:33,400
who was not aware. That will work

3933
03:17:33,400 --> 03:17:35,400
itself out

3934
03:17:36,400 --> 03:17:38,400
but something we want to

3935
03:17:38,400 --> 03:17:39,400
consider in the future because they

3936
03:17:39,400 --> 03:17:41,400
could potentially

3937
03:17:42,400 --> 03:17:44,400
be other tour companies

3938
03:17:44,400 --> 03:17:49,800
that need a safe place to drop people off.

3939
03:17:51,400 --> 03:17:52,400
that will be staff discussion.

3940
03:17:52,400 --> 03:17:54,400
>>

3941
03:17:54,400 --> 03:17:56,400
I have never

3942
03:17:57,400 --> 03:18:00,400
visited on a cruise line,

3943
03:18:00,400 --> 03:18:02,800
if anyone is interested,

3944
03:18:03,400 --> 03:18:06,400
go and see what it is all about.

3945
03:18:06,400 --> 03:18:08,400
was

3946
03:18:08,400 --> 03:18:12,400
not connected into the person called me,

3947
03:18:12,400 --> 03:18:15,400
there is a tour bus.

3948
03:18:15,400 --> 03:18:18,400
okay. There is that. Flooding,

3949
03:18:21,400 --> 03:18:23,400
are there divers

3950
03:18:23,400 --> 03:18:24,400
coming to look at our flood situation?

3951
03:18:24,400 --> 03:18:26,400
how is

3952
03:18:27,400 --> 03:18:29,400
that going ?

3953
03:18:30,400 --> 03:18:33,400
how is that all going?

3954
03:18:36,400 --> 03:18:38,400
>>

3955
03:18:39,400 --> 03:18:41,400
engineering

3956
03:18:48,400 --> 03:18:49,400
is in the

3957
03:18:49,400 --> 03:18:51,400
process of that among many other things.

3958
03:18:51,400 --> 03:18:53,800
>> thank you very much

3959
03:18:54,400 --> 03:18:56,400
for that.

3960
03:18:57,400 --> 03:18:58,400
are you going to say something?

3961
03:18:58,400 --> 03:19:00,400
>>

3962
03:19:00,400 --> 03:19:02,400
downtown flooding ,

3963
03:19:03,400 --> 03:19:05,400
the solicitation --

3964
03:19:06,400 --> 03:19:09,400
we extended it several times.

3965
03:19:09,400 --> 03:19:11,800
we had two responses

3966
03:19:12,400 --> 03:19:15,400
from companies and are obtaining

3967
03:19:15,400 --> 03:19:18,400
the residences and will be

3968
03:19:18,400 --> 03:19:19,400
setting up evaluations.

3969
03:19:19,400 --> 03:19:21,400
>>

3970
03:19:21,400 --> 03:19:23,800
do you have a

3971
03:19:24,400 --> 03:19:27,400
sense of when it will

3972
03:19:27,400 --> 03:19:29,400
be released?

3973
03:19:30,400 --> 03:19:32,800
>> he said two weeks.

3974
03:19:33,400 --> 03:19:34,400
[ laughter ]

3975
03:19:34,400 --> 03:19:36,400
>>

3976
03:19:36,400 --> 03:19:39,400
I wanted to get that on the

3977
03:19:39,400 --> 03:19:41,400
record because

3978
03:19:42,400 --> 03:19:44,400
--before the

3979
03:19:45,400 --> 03:19:47,400
rain comes.

3980
03:19:48,400 --> 03:19:50,400
the concern ,

3981
03:19:51,400 --> 03:19:53,400
just

3982
03:19:53,400 --> 03:19:54,400
like warehouse and self storage ,

3983
03:19:54,400 --> 03:19:56,800
are we going to

3984
03:19:57,400 --> 03:19:59,400
see this

3985
03:20:00,400 --> 03:20:03,400
before us? The drc will look

3986
03:20:03,400 --> 03:20:05,400
at this.

3987
03:20:08,400 --> 03:20:09,400
thank you, rachel. You should stay closer.

3988
03:20:09,400 --> 03:20:11,400
>>

3989
03:20:12,400 --> 03:20:15,400
the way the code is

3990
03:20:15,400 --> 03:20:18,400
written, punta gorda has the final decision

3991
03:20:18,400 --> 03:20:20,400
, special exceptions

3992
03:20:21,400 --> 03:20:24,400
, we are still finalizing that

3993
03:20:24,400 --> 03:20:26,400
staff report.

3994
03:20:26,400 --> 03:20:29,400
we were trying to dry conditions to

3995
03:20:29,400 --> 03:20:33,400
save cars , it is surrounded by residential properties.

3996
03:20:33,400 --> 03:20:35,400
we are finalizing the

3997
03:20:35,400 --> 03:20:36,400
staff report and will get that out

3998
03:20:36,400 --> 03:20:37,400
later today.

3999
03:20:37,400 --> 03:20:39,400
>>

4000
03:20:39,400 --> 03:20:41,400
exactly,

4001
03:20:41,400 --> 03:20:42,400
my concern, I hope they understand

4002
03:20:42,400 --> 03:20:44,800
the difference between zoning,

4003
03:20:45,400 --> 03:20:47,400
they're saying [ indiscernible -

4004
03:20:48,400 --> 03:20:51,400
muffled ] I am concerned , that

4005
03:20:51,400 --> 03:20:53,400
is a commercial

4006
03:20:54,400 --> 03:20:59,400
zoning and is allowed but is not in the

4007
03:20:59,400 --> 03:21:00,400
residential area . I may need you again.

4008
03:21:00,400 --> 03:21:02,800
no wall by the

4009
03:21:03,400 --> 03:21:05,400
car wash. I

4010
03:21:05,400 --> 03:21:06,400
am getting complaints of various people

4011
03:21:06,400 --> 03:21:08,400
who lived

4012
03:21:09,400 --> 03:21:12,400
behind it who are in

4013
03:21:12,400 --> 03:21:15,400
our city, our hearing a noise

4014
03:21:15,400 --> 03:21:17,400
. They said

4015
03:21:18,400 --> 03:21:21,400
there is no wall. Next

4016
03:21:21,400 --> 03:21:23,400
to the

4017
03:21:24,400 --> 03:21:27,400
building you are in now. Just wondering,

4018
03:21:27,400 --> 03:21:30,400
is there something we could

4019
03:21:30,400 --> 03:21:33,400
put in , recommendations that would

4020
03:21:33,400 --> 03:21:34,400
protect them ?

4021
03:21:34,400 --> 03:21:36,400
>>

4022
03:21:36,400 --> 03:21:38,400
we have

4023
03:21:38,400 --> 03:21:42,400
had people stop by our office. Equipment

4024
03:21:42,400 --> 03:21:44,400
--

4025
03:21:45,400 --> 03:21:48,400
the boys --the noise was louder than

4026
03:21:48,400 --> 03:21:50,400
in the past. We

4027
03:21:50,400 --> 03:21:53,400
have law enforcement visiting them.

4028
03:21:54,400 --> 03:21:56,400
they will have to do something

4029
03:21:56,400 --> 03:21:57,400
to mitigate those noises.

4030
03:21:57,400 --> 03:21:59,400
>> great.

4031
03:22:03,400 --> 03:22:05,800
maybe adding a wall

4032
03:22:06,400 --> 03:22:08,400
, especially in a

4033
03:22:09,400 --> 03:22:11,400
residential area.

4034
03:22:11,400 --> 03:22:12,400
so they can have some sort of tranquility.

4035
03:22:12,400 --> 03:22:14,400
>>

4036
03:22:17,400 --> 03:22:18,400
that will be part of the carwash and

4037
03:22:18,400 --> 03:22:20,400
storage facility discussion.

4038
03:22:21,400 --> 03:22:24,400
that will be in the

4039
03:22:24,400 --> 03:22:26,400
discussion going forward.

4040
03:22:27,400 --> 03:22:28,400
>> may I

4041
03:22:28,400 --> 03:22:30,400
respond to your commercial comment

4042
03:22:30,400 --> 03:22:32,400
?

4043
03:22:39,400 --> 03:22:42,400
I understand all the points

4044
03:22:42,400 --> 03:22:44,400
of view.

4045
03:22:45,400 --> 03:22:48,400
it is for marine purposes , to encourage tourism.

4046
03:22:48,400 --> 03:22:50,400
some have their

4047
03:22:54,400 --> 03:22:56,400
boats launched,

4048
03:22:57,400 --> 03:23:00,400
I would not call it

4049
03:23:00,400 --> 03:23:02,400
industrial, marine , tourism.

4050
03:23:03,400 --> 03:23:05,400
they can

4051
03:23:06,400 --> 03:23:08,800
put that in their

4052
03:23:09,400 --> 03:23:11,800
facility . I have examples

4053
03:23:12,400 --> 03:23:16,000
to both sides of the story.

4054
03:23:18,400 --> 03:23:20,400
>>

4055
03:23:21,400 --> 03:23:23,800
it is multi family

4056
03:23:24,400 --> 03:23:26,400
, 15, a residential area.

4057
03:23:27,400 --> 03:23:29,400
>>

4058
03:23:29,400 --> 03:23:30,400
general multi family is a special

4059
03:23:30,400 --> 03:23:32,400
exception. Accessory use

4060
03:23:33,400 --> 03:23:35,800
to their boat. Still

4061
03:23:36,400 --> 03:23:38,400
finalizing that

4062
03:23:39,400 --> 03:23:41,400
staff report.

4063
03:23:42,400 --> 03:23:44,400
>> that is fine. >>

4064
03:23:45,400 --> 03:23:48,400
you will see the staff report.

4065
03:23:48,400 --> 03:23:50,400
>> I have

4066
03:23:51,400 --> 03:23:53,400
one item.

4067
03:23:54,400 --> 03:23:56,400
boaters

4068
03:23:57,400 --> 03:23:58,400
have lost the opportunity to take

4069
03:23:58,400 --> 03:24:00,400
showers at the south park.

4070
03:24:00,400 --> 03:24:02,400
plentycounty

4071
03:24:02,400 --> 03:24:05,400
of places in reasonable proximity.

4072
03:24:12,400 --> 03:24:15,400
I understand we can set

4073
03:24:15,400 --> 03:24:16,400
it for the showers. They were able

4074
03:24:16,400 --> 03:24:18,400
to

4075
03:24:18,400 --> 03:24:21,400
get showers all year long

4076
03:24:21,400 --> 03:24:23,400
at south county

4077
03:24:24,400 --> 03:24:26,400
park.

4078
03:24:27,400 --> 03:24:29,400
we are charging

4079
03:24:30,400 --> 03:24:32,400
$15, I would like

4080
03:24:32,400 --> 03:24:35,400
a temporary , reasonable accommodation for

4081
03:24:36,400 --> 03:24:38,400
boaters. They are

4082
03:24:39,400 --> 03:24:41,400
renovating it, a

4083
03:24:42,400 --> 03:24:44,400
2.5 month period. More

4084
03:24:45,400 --> 03:24:47,400
reasonable

4085
03:24:49,400 --> 03:24:52,400
three bucks per shower. One boater

4086
03:24:52,400 --> 03:24:54,800
said it would be

4087
03:24:55,400 --> 03:24:57,400
$5000 to

4088
03:24:58,400 --> 03:25:01,400
take showers . He comes to the

4089
03:25:01,400 --> 03:25:04,400
shore and goes to work.

4090
03:25:04,400 --> 03:25:06,400
>>

4091
03:25:07,400 --> 03:25:10,400
I can add that to a

4092
03:25:10,400 --> 03:25:12,400
future agenda. Consider,

4093
03:25:13,400 --> 03:25:15,400
in normal operations ,

4094
03:25:16,400 --> 03:25:18,400
a considerable strain

4095
03:25:19,400 --> 03:25:22,400
on resources to people in

4096
03:25:22,400 --> 03:25:24,400
the harbor .

4097
03:25:25,400 --> 03:25:28,400
>> I am only talking about

4098
03:25:28,400 --> 03:25:29,400
the next two months.

4099
03:25:29,400 --> 03:25:31,400
>>

4100
03:25:31,400 --> 03:25:34,400
as we conclude the contract with management,

4101
03:25:34,400 --> 03:25:37,400
have the dock master in place

4102
03:25:37,400 --> 03:25:39,400
for those

4103
03:25:40,400 --> 03:25:42,400
facilities.

4104
03:25:43,400 --> 03:25:45,400
>> okay. >> wow, okay.

4105
03:25:49,400 --> 03:25:52,400
I think this is great.

4106
03:25:52,400 --> 03:25:54,400
great input. Eric,

4107
03:25:55,400 --> 03:25:58,400
thank you for allowing us to

4108
03:25:58,400 --> 03:26:00,400
use this facility.

4109
03:26:00,400 --> 03:26:03,400
thank you for going ahead with the 911.

4110
03:26:03,400 --> 03:26:04,400
our police trauma and fire department

4111
03:26:04,400 --> 03:26:05,400
, the

4112
03:26:05,400 --> 03:26:09,000
stresses they have been dealing with.

4113
03:26:10,400 --> 03:26:13,400
I would love to see more

4114
03:26:13,400 --> 03:26:16,400
workshops we will be having,

4115
03:26:16,400 --> 03:26:18,400
making sure people can know they

4116
03:26:18,400 --> 03:26:21,400
can talk to us . They may have some

4117
03:26:21,400 --> 03:26:26,800
great ideas that we do not even think about.

4118
03:26:27,400 --> 03:26:28,400
I think it is really nice for us to

4119
03:26:28,400 --> 03:26:30,400
have that

4120
03:26:31,400 --> 03:26:33,400
input. Also,

4121
03:26:34,400 --> 03:26:37,400
a resident sent me an email saying

4122
03:26:37,400 --> 03:26:40,400
they're looking for the cars.

4123
03:26:40,400 --> 03:26:42,400
they want to

4124
03:26:43,400 --> 03:26:45,800
do something with the

4125
03:26:46,400 --> 03:26:49,400
car washes. They were asking about

4126
03:26:49,400 --> 03:26:51,400
that. Also,

4127
03:26:55,400 --> 03:26:57,400
I was asked to shout out,

4128
03:26:57,400 --> 03:27:01,400
same day as our event on march 22nd,

4129
03:27:01,400 --> 03:27:03,400
bicycle

4130
03:27:04,400 --> 03:27:06,400
clue, I guess

4131
03:27:07,400 --> 03:27:10,400
is what they are doing. It will

4132
03:27:10,400 --> 03:27:12,400
be fun.

4133
03:27:13,400 --> 03:27:15,400
last,

4134
03:27:16,400 --> 03:27:19,400
do we have any residents

4135
03:27:19,400 --> 03:27:21,400
for final input ?

4136
03:27:25,400 --> 03:27:27,400
>>

4137
03:27:28,400 --> 03:27:30,400
two things, one,

4138
03:27:37,400 --> 03:27:40,400
on the search for the future city manager -- I have done a

4139
03:27:40,400 --> 03:27:42,400
lot of

4140
03:27:43,400 --> 03:27:45,800
thinking about this, my

4141
03:27:46,400 --> 03:27:48,400
family

4142
03:27:48,400 --> 03:27:49,400
has been here for a long time in punta

4143
03:27:49,400 --> 03:27:51,400
gorda .

4144
03:27:55,400 --> 03:27:57,400
shut me

4145
03:27:57,400 --> 03:28:01,400
how much taxes she has been in two,

4146
03:28:01,400 --> 03:28:03,400
three homes.

4147
03:28:04,400 --> 03:28:06,800
we are letting somebody

4148
03:28:07,400 --> 03:28:09,800
who knows florida , somebody

4149
03:28:10,400 --> 03:28:12,400
who is not

4150
03:28:13,400 --> 03:28:16,400
from out-of-state, and somebody who knows

4151
03:28:16,400 --> 03:28:18,800
the specific water problems

4152
03:28:19,400 --> 03:28:22,400
that are happening in the state

4153
03:28:22,400 --> 03:28:25,400
. I want to let you know,

4154
03:28:25,400 --> 03:28:27,400
other people in our

4155
03:28:27,400 --> 03:28:28,400
legislation delegation do not know

4156
03:28:28,400 --> 03:28:30,400
what is

4157
03:28:31,400 --> 03:28:33,400
truthfully happening.

4158
03:28:34,400 --> 03:28:37,400
I have to tell you,

4159
03:28:37,400 --> 03:28:39,800
I bump into our

4160
03:28:40,400 --> 03:28:42,800
former city manager all

4161
03:28:43,400 --> 03:28:47,400
the time , I have his cell number,

4162
03:28:47,400 --> 03:28:49,400
eye call him to shoot the breeze and

4163
03:28:49,400 --> 03:28:51,800
we have great conversations.

4164
03:28:55,400 --> 03:28:58,400
I spent a lot of time, had

4165
03:28:58,400 --> 03:29:01,400
people want me to start a consulting

4166
03:29:01,400 --> 03:29:04,400
firm for politicians, et cetera, no.

4167
03:29:04,400 --> 03:29:06,400
I am citizen.

4168
03:29:10,400 --> 03:29:12,800
I will tell you,

4169
03:29:13,400 --> 03:29:15,400
seeing what happens

4170
03:29:16,400 --> 03:29:18,400
in study with the harbor , other

4171
03:29:18,400 --> 03:29:19,400
scientists and other people who were

4172
03:29:19,400 --> 03:29:21,400
working

4173
03:29:22,400 --> 03:29:25,400
to help improve the problem in florida.

4174
03:29:25,400 --> 03:29:27,400
we need somebody

4175
03:29:30,400 --> 03:29:34,400
who is going to really take care of

4176
03:29:34,400 --> 03:29:37,400
us. I have met a lot of

4177
03:29:37,400 --> 03:29:39,400
city managers,

4178
03:29:40,400 --> 03:29:42,400
and when I leave these

4179
03:29:42,400 --> 03:29:43,400
meetings, I am feeling good. I don't

4180
03:29:43,400 --> 03:29:45,400
have an

4181
03:29:46,400 --> 03:29:48,400
upset stomach.

4182
03:29:48,400 --> 03:29:49,400
I do not feel like I'm getting the

4183
03:29:49,400 --> 03:29:51,400
wool pulled over

4184
03:29:52,400 --> 03:29:55,400
my eyes. I want to say , right now,

4185
03:29:55,400 --> 03:29:57,400
our city manager

4186
03:29:58,400 --> 03:30:00,400
is done one

4187
03:30:01,400 --> 03:30:03,800
hell of a job. [

4188
03:30:04,400 --> 03:30:06,400
applause ]

4189
03:30:07,400 --> 03:30:09,800
step in in a

4190
03:30:10,400 --> 03:30:12,400
very difficult time.

4191
03:30:13,400 --> 03:30:16,400
whoever will put their name and

4192
03:30:16,400 --> 03:30:18,800
that had , I appreciate

4193
03:30:19,400 --> 03:30:22,400
it and want to tell you, when

4194
03:30:22,400 --> 03:30:24,400
you have somebody

4195
03:30:25,400 --> 03:30:28,400
, a system that is working, not

4196
03:30:28,400 --> 03:30:30,800
only working , light years

4197
03:30:31,400 --> 03:30:33,800
ahead of anyone in

4198
03:30:34,400 --> 03:30:37,400
the city with experience , we have

4199
03:30:37,400 --> 03:30:39,400
to respect

4200
03:30:40,400 --> 03:30:42,800
that. Regarding the attorney,

4201
03:30:43,400 --> 03:30:46,400
we are here because of

4202
03:30:46,400 --> 03:30:49,400
a few poor decisions. Freedom

4203
03:30:49,400 --> 03:30:51,400
of speech , lawsuits.

4204
03:30:52,400 --> 03:30:54,400
thank you.

4205
03:31:04,400 --> 03:31:06,400
>> hi.

4206
03:31:07,400 --> 03:31:09,400
I have

4207
03:31:10,400 --> 03:31:12,800
a picture , a suggestion,

4208
03:31:16,400 --> 03:31:18,400
maybe put

4209
03:31:19,400 --> 03:31:21,400
in the commercial

4210
03:31:22,400 --> 03:31:24,400
-- maybe

4211
03:31:25,400 --> 03:31:28,400
put it in a commercial.

4212
03:31:28,400 --> 03:31:30,800
this store is probably

4213
03:31:33,400 --> 03:31:34,400
eight feet tall, this is three times

4214
03:31:34,400 --> 03:31:36,400
that height.

4215
03:31:40,400 --> 03:31:43,400
right next to the houses.

4216
03:31:43,400 --> 03:31:45,400
just a suggestion.

4217
03:31:58,400 --> 03:32:00,400
>> I

4218
03:32:04,400 --> 03:32:07,400
want to thank they mayor for

4219
03:32:07,400 --> 03:32:09,400
tallahassee,

4220
03:32:10,400 --> 03:32:12,400
a good job, especially to

4221
03:32:12,400 --> 03:32:13,400
the mayor for spending her own funds

4222
03:32:13,400 --> 03:32:15,400
to facilitate that.

4223
03:32:16,400 --> 03:32:19,400
I want to comment on your search.

4224
03:32:19,400 --> 03:32:21,800
I was a recruiter,

4225
03:32:25,400 --> 03:32:27,800
search consultant, one thing,

4226
03:32:28,400 --> 03:32:31,400
people who do this for a living

4227
03:32:31,400 --> 03:32:33,400
are not just looking

4228
03:32:33,400 --> 03:32:34,400
for people who are looking for a job,

4229
03:32:34,400 --> 03:32:36,800
they already have a

4230
03:32:37,400 --> 03:32:38,400
multitude of people who probably can't

4231
03:32:38,400 --> 03:32:40,400
do the

4232
03:32:40,400 --> 03:32:43,400
job very well and are not necessarily looking.

4233
03:32:43,400 --> 03:32:46,400
these are people you will not

4234
03:32:46,400 --> 03:32:48,400
be --

4235
03:32:49,400 --> 03:32:50,400
these people are not looking, this

4236
03:32:50,400 --> 03:32:52,400
is what

4237
03:32:52,400 --> 03:32:53,400
an executive search form can do. --

4238
03:32:53,400 --> 03:32:55,400
this is what

4239
03:32:55,400 --> 03:32:59,000
an executive search can do.firm

4240
03:32:59,400 --> 03:33:01,400
>> I will

4241
03:33:02,400 --> 03:33:04,400
make this quick, $165

4242
03:33:05,400 --> 03:33:07,400
per hour,

4243
03:33:08,400 --> 03:33:10,400
the cost savings

4244
03:33:11,400 --> 03:33:13,400
are significant.

4245
03:33:14,400 --> 03:33:16,400
[ indiscernible -low

4246
03:33:17,400 --> 03:33:20,400
volume ] you do not have to take

4247
03:33:20,400 --> 03:33:22,400
his opinion. Something

4248
03:33:22,400 --> 03:33:26,000
about giving people access to meetings.

4249
03:33:26,400 --> 03:33:28,800
they have an ordinance

4250
03:33:29,400 --> 03:33:31,400
in public buildings.

4251
03:33:35,400 --> 03:33:36,400
I

4252
03:33:36,400 --> 03:33:38,400
do not know if that has to do with

4253
03:33:38,400 --> 03:33:40,800
the legislation you are

4254
03:33:41,400 --> 03:33:43,400
looking at.

4255
03:33:47,400 --> 03:33:50,400
[ indiscernible -low volume ] I know

4256
03:33:50,400 --> 03:33:53,400
he has experience. His judgment

4257
03:33:53,400 --> 03:33:55,400
is sound.

4258
03:33:59,400 --> 03:34:00,400
would

4259
03:34:00,400 --> 03:34:02,400
you want your pediatrician to treat

4260
03:34:02,400 --> 03:34:04,400
you today

4261
03:34:05,400 --> 03:34:08,400
? You would want geriatric care.

4262
03:34:08,400 --> 03:34:10,400
[ laughter ]

4263
03:34:11,400 --> 03:34:13,800
something to think about.

4264
03:34:14,400 --> 03:34:17,400
also , the cost of living has

4265
03:34:17,400 --> 03:34:20,400
gone up exponentially. My son

4266
03:34:23,400 --> 03:34:25,800
got offers for being

4267
03:34:26,400 --> 03:34:28,400
six $5000 you

4268
03:34:29,400 --> 03:34:31,400
--$65,000 per year

4269
03:34:32,400 --> 03:34:34,400
,

4270
03:34:35,400 --> 03:34:36,400
you would

4271
03:34:36,400 --> 03:34:40,000
be surprised with the recommendations are.

4272
03:34:44,400 --> 03:34:47,400
his firm is very large.

4273
03:34:50,400 --> 03:34:52,400
thank you very

4274
03:34:53,400 --> 03:34:54,400
much.

4275
03:34:54,400 --> 03:34:56,400
>>

4276
03:34:56,400 --> 03:34:58,400
mike, punta

4277
03:34:59,400 --> 03:35:01,400
gorda ,

4278
03:35:02,400 --> 03:35:04,400
[ indiscernible -muffled

4279
03:35:05,400 --> 03:35:07,800
] from the hospital to

4280
03:35:08,400 --> 03:35:10,400
city hall ,

4281
03:35:11,400 --> 03:35:13,400
[ indiscernible ]

4282
03:35:13,400 --> 03:35:14,400
you cannot build a building in that

4283
03:35:14,400 --> 03:35:16,400
area. You

4284
03:35:17,400 --> 03:35:20,400
cannot build this building today

4285
03:35:20,400 --> 03:35:22,400
located on olympia or

4286
03:35:22,400 --> 03:35:23,400
marion avenue. You would have to have

4287
03:35:23,400 --> 03:35:25,400
a second

4288
03:35:26,400 --> 03:35:28,400
for multi family use or office.

4289
03:35:28,400 --> 03:35:29,400
I am a commercial appraiser and I

4290
03:35:29,400 --> 03:35:31,800
appraise properties all over

4291
03:35:32,400 --> 03:35:33,400
florida and 60%

4292
03:35:33,400 --> 03:35:35,400
to 70% of the properties I appraise

4293
03:35:35,400 --> 03:35:38,400
are single tenant buildings. The current

4294
03:35:38,400 --> 03:35:40,400
[ indiscernible ] eliminate

4295
03:35:41,400 --> 03:35:42,400
--the proposal

4296
03:35:42,400 --> 03:35:44,400
for the city market place the staff

4297
03:35:44,400 --> 03:35:46,400
is reviewing

4298
03:35:46,400 --> 03:35:47,400
is not for a potential buyer or developer,

4299
03:35:47,400 --> 03:35:49,400
it is for

4300
03:35:49,400 --> 03:35:50,400
the owners. They have no plans to

4301
03:35:50,400 --> 03:35:52,400
develop the site

4302
03:35:53,400 --> 03:35:55,400
merely trying to sell the property

4303
03:35:55,400 --> 03:35:58,400
the attorney for city marketplace

4304
03:35:59,400 --> 03:36:01,400
--[ indiscernible ]

4305
03:36:03,400 --> 03:36:04,400
the development site was not feasible

4306
03:36:04,400 --> 03:36:05,400
without the increased density and

4307
03:36:05,400 --> 03:36:06,400
over

4308
03:36:06,400 --> 03:36:07,400
a year later, nothing is happened

4309
03:36:07,400 --> 03:36:11,000
except they are raising the price

4310
03:36:11,400 --> 03:36:13,400
to $12

4311
03:36:13,400 --> 03:36:16,400
million from $8.4 million. The plans

4312
03:36:17,400 --> 03:36:19,400
need to be admitted back to the

4313
03:36:19,400 --> 03:36:20,400
prior densities and uses , so the

4314
03:36:20,400 --> 03:36:22,400
only commercial growth you will see

4315
03:36:22,400 --> 03:36:24,400
in punta gorda will be in john's loop.

4316
03:36:24,400 --> 03:36:26,400
[ indiscernible -background noise

4317
03:36:26,400 --> 03:36:28,400
]

4318
03:36:29,400 --> 03:36:31,400
and the 75,000

4319
03:36:31,400 --> 03:36:35,400
people per day that use that arterial.

4320
03:36:35,400 --> 03:36:38,400
and provides a two-tier market

4321
03:36:38,400 --> 03:36:40,400
for commercial development.

4322
03:36:40,400 --> 03:36:44,400
that is all the developer you will see.

4323
03:36:44,400 --> 03:36:46,400
64 years,

4324
03:36:47,400 --> 03:36:49,800
nothing has been built

4325
03:36:50,400 --> 03:36:52,400
on the site.

4326
03:36:53,400 --> 03:36:56,800
now we have a medical district with no hospital. That

4327
03:36:56,800 --> 03:36:59,800
cop plan should be rescinded.

4328
03:37:00,670 --> 03:37:02,670
[ applause ]

4329
03:37:07,533 --> 03:37:09,533
>> anybody else ?

4330
03:37:10,330 --> 03:37:11,000
we are adjourned. Thank you very much.