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>> Father we ask you to bless every family represented here

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today.

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It's in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus

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Christ we pray Amen.

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>> Welcome back to City Council Chambers for the first time

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since before Hurricane Ian.

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Thank you to City Council for investing

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in the space to make decisions vital to our community.

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A huge thank you to Tommy MacEy for leading this important

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project and supports team .

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Thanks to Brian for his quick work to upgrade technology

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and to Matt for being here every day to make it work.

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Thank you to Steve, Samantha, and Ben

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for your work to beautify the grounds.

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We have renewed opportunity for a meetings.

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I will turn it over to Sarah for additional announcements.

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>> City clerk Sarah Walsh.

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Council and chambers has been set up to ensure record.

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This is in compliance with procedure 34.

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The technology and procedures will

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support the following Subrules.

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Rule 34.1, any Council member desiring to speak

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will address Presiding Officer by raising a hand.

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Rule 34.2, upon recognition by a city officer,

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Council member should be confined to current agenda item.

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Rule 34.3.

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Once recognized, Council member shouldn't be interrupted.

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The member should cease speaking until the question of order

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is decided.

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Rule 34.4, all questions and comments

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from fellow members, staff, applicants and the public

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should be directed towards the presiding officer.

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Mikes are set up with indicator lights to show speaking order.

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Solid red light means the microphone is live.

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Solid green light means speakers are In queue.

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Council members will turn off the mic

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at the end of their comment.

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The mayor must clear the queue to activate the microphone

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at the podium.

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At the conclusion of comment, the council member

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who requested the input will have the first question

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or comment and the queue procedure will restart.

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will press the talk button and the mayor

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will activate the microphone.

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indicator light will come on when the time has started

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and a yellow indicator will come on at the start of 30s.

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but city staff may interject to make sure comments are audible.

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We are looking forward to a great meeting.

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>> I'm pleased to announce that when we were in Colorado

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for Jerry's Brothers Memorial Gumma I was elected

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to the executive Committee of the Southwest Florida Leaders

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Committee.

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Mayor Lux: Great job.

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The next meeting will be September 9th at 9 a.m.

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Here.

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The address is 326 West Marion Avenue.

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On September 9th, we have the budget meeting at 5 p.m..

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Does anyone want to add or change anything to the agenda?

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Vice Mayor Polk: Yes, I would like

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to add a discussion on Fisherman's Village.

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Is everyone in agreement?

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Mayor Lux: That's probably a good idea.

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It is not on here but it is a discussion

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from what we agreed upon from the previous council.

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This is just something you want clarification on?

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Vice Mayor Polk: Basically wanting

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to get more clarification.

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I don't think we were clear on the avenue we were taking.

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I think it is time we do that.

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We have an attorney waiting in the lurch

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and needs to know how to proceed.

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I'm sure Mr. Liskevych could talk more about it.

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If we put it on the agenda we could talk about Mayor Lux: So,

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yes?

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Member Lockhart: I'm fine with that.

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Member Julian: I'm opposed because it wasn't on the agenda.

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We could not add an agenda item on the day

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because it hasn't been advertised to the public.

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Mayor Lux: Okay.

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We've talked about it in the past

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and is clarification for what we agreed upon.

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Majority rules.

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Mr. Janine will ask you some questions on that.

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First as our proclamations and presentations.

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The first one is the Punta Gorda Boat Club Day.

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Vice Mayor Polk: I would like to see commenters Sue Ann

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and Carol burn to accept.

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Also, anybody else who came from the boat club today?

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I just beautifully.

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I think there is room to stand up here today.

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You all look so dapper.

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Thank you so much.

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Whereas come on August 31st 1951,

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56 residents of Charlotte County,

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Florida met approved bylaws and elected the I l brownie Brown

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as Commodore of the Punta Gorda Boat Club.

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This celebrates 75 years of continued operation.

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Whereas driven by Chamber of Commerce President John

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rose to promote water oriented tourism in the small fishing

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and cattle town, the club was organized

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to meet the American powerboat organizations

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requirements for holding sanctioned regattas.

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Whereas establishment of the club

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led to first American power Boat Club regatta in 1952,

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an event that successfully drew 9000 spectators

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to the shores of Charlotte Harbor and 400 attendees

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to the subsequent Regatta Ball.

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Whereas receiving a lease from the City Council in 1961,

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members utilized their own labor and finances to erect a seawall,

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dig a channel, and construct the enduring clubhouse at 802 West.

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Whereas today the club offers diverse boating and land

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based social activities, while fulfilling commitments

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to community organizations, including the Borders Alliance

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organization, Charlotte County Marine Advisory, Community

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Resource Network, Great American Cleanup, Adopt a, and a Saint

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Vincent de Paul Society.

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Whereas the facility serves as an essential meeting

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place for local groups, such as the Punta Gorda Sailing

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Club, Woodworker's, and owners Association,

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while the club's 501 C three Foundation

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provides contributions to local academies and networks.

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Whereas the city of Punta Gorda wishes

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to recognize the lasting history of boating in our community,

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created by the Punta Gorda Boat Club

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to express its profound gratitude

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for the 75 years of service that continually strengthen

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our community's foundation.

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The City Council of the City of Punta Gorda,

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Florida proclaims the 26th of August, 2020,

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as Punta Gorda Boat Club Day.

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We urge all residents to recognize and celebrate

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the club's 75 years of boating history, community service,

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and positive impact on our beloved city Pmec passed

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and duly adopted, August 26th, 2026.

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[audience clapping]

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>> Thank you for the presentation and the city

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for years of support they've given to the boat club.

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We appreciate everything the city has done for us.

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Thank you.

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[audience clapping]

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Mayor Lux: Thank you very much.

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You guys look awesome today.

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You don't have to stay if you don't want to. (laughing).

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Next is our presentation of the city's annual comprehensive

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financial report for the fiscal year ended September 30th, 2025.

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>> A good morning Kristen Simeon.

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I would like to introduce our CPAs to introduce our reports.

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>> My name is with Tony Smith.

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We are your auditors.

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We are located six blocks away.

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If you have any questions, we are local to you

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and at your fingertips.

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I will present the two audits we did this year.

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I will start first with the CRA, which

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leads to the general financial statements.

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The first one that you have is the CRA.

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You had set this to close out in 2024.

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2025 was the wind down.

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It started with assets and ended with zero assets.

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Those assets were rolled to the city.

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I will go over the things we have to cover

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and we can go over any questions you have.

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Page one, second paragraph, in our opinion,

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financial statements represent fairly in all material respects.

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Their respective financial position of the government

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activities and general fund of the CRA as of September 30th,

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2025.

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That is the full financial statements for the CRA.

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All those assets rolled over into the regular city.

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Now I'm presenting the city financial statements.

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It is this giant book.

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I would like to give a shout out to your finance staff.

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Putting in this much work for the book is incredible.

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One sign of this is included within

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your financial statements.

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Every year you can apply for the Certificate

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of Achievement of Excellence for the financial statements.

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Kristen and her team received the award for the previous year.

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It is in your financial statements now for 2024.

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We've applied and I'm sure you will receive it again.

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Within your financial statements,

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you have three different audits.

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You have an audit of the financial statements,

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one of your federal grants, and another of your internal control

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policies.

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The first opinion, like the last one, is on page number one.

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In our opinion, financial statements

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above present fairly in all material respects.

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On page 187 is your federal single audit.

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If you spend more than $1 million of federal grant funds,

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you are required to have a single audit.

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Page 187 is the opinion on this.

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In our opinion, the city complied

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in all material respects in accordance

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with federal grant requirements.

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Your financial statements are governed by the government

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Auditing Standards Board.

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Rules change every single year.

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They add more rules.

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Your book gets bigger and bigger.

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>> If you could speak more directly into the microphone.

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You can raise this up.

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>> Sorry.

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I heard you say two Inches away. (audience Laughing).

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Are firm does 26 audits of government.

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The city of Punta Gorda is best.

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I probably will get in trouble with my other audit clients.

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Your staff has dedicated to it .

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Our job requires an efficient staff.

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That goes a long way for your staff.

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I would like to thank you for Them. (audience applauding).

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I will do my best to answer any questions.

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If not, we are six blocks away.

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You have our phone number.

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I'm happy to have any conversations that you need.

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Thank you.

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Mayor Lux: Thank you very much.

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>> Thank you to the auditing team and all the work and hours

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they put in to audit.

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Mayor Lux: Thank you.

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Next on the agenda is public input.

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Sarah said that you have to press the speaker to get started

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We have a red, yellow, and white timers.

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State your name for the record .

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Community Member: Bob Fritz.

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Welcome home.

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A couple of comments on Troy agenda items, six A and six B.

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These both are about the public safety building ,

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possible renovation, possible relocation.

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There's a lot of money involved in these two items.

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I'm wondering if it would be prudent,

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because of referendum three coming up about the homestead,

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to delay this for two months and see

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what happens with the homestead large deduction.

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There's a comment about six H land development revisions.

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When does the public get a chance to comment on these?

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It seems staff is just going ahead and doing this

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without public comment.

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They had mitigation in their.

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It was a bad idea the first time and it is a bad idea this time.

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We have to be careful what we do with the flex commercial zone.

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We have a tax -- we have a backwards 711.

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We don't want to continue doing that here.

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Thank you.

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Mayor Lux: I like you already (laughing).

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Community Member: Hello, good morning, I am Lisa Arnold.

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I'm a 28 year combat veteran of the US Air Force

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and president of a nonprofit 501 C three, sister

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of arms of Cape Coral.

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I reside in Cape Coral.

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There's a reason I'm here.

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I moved here after retiring in January of 22.

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I love living in Southwest Florida

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but we can do better in this regard.

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As I traveled around and got acquainted with the area,

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I realized there isn't a single monument

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in South Florida that represents women in the military.

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If you've heard of Pat Tillman or Chris Kyle,

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but not Elizabeth Jacobson or Isabel Gonzalez or Shannon can,

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I'm here today because these women died for their country.

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We don't hear their stories.

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I just finished up being the American Legion

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commander in Cape Coral.

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I had my ribbons on and a gentleman asked me

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if those were my ribbons.

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Then he proceeded to say that they must give them away.

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I say all that to say that we can do better.

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Cape Coral tells itself approval heart city.

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I met with the city in this regard

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and they know that we can do better.

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It represents the 25,000 women that call themselves veterans

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in Southwest Florida.

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We will change the culture and make a difference.

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We are building this beautiful monument.

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We have the city's full support.

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They gave us a spot next to Iwo Jima at the four mile Ecological

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preserve.

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We are bound and determined to make this happen.

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We raised about $55,000 in the first two months.

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We have a $400,000 goal.

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Please share this information with this --

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with those in your city and invite us to speak

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at your events.

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I appreciate your time.

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My business card is there.

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Please let me know if you have any questions.

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I will be happy to answer them.

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Thank you so much.

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Mayor Lux: Thank you very much.

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I will be in contact.

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Anyone else wishing to speak this morning?

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Community Member: Good morning.

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I'm Niall Higgins and I'm a Punta Gorda resident.

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Thanks to the council .

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We only have -- spots out there.

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We saved over 4000 a month by getting out of the military

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Heritage Museum and not giving Lynn and her cohorts $48,000

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a year.

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We repealed the elders.

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Rebuilding after the LDR is well done.

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The infrastructure and water problems

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are being taken care of.

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We have a new commercial space coming in.

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You've done a fantastic job.

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I want to make a suggestion that there

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are a lot of retired, well educated people

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in the city who are willing to help.

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I think you need to find a way to join them in your ventures.

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The police department has a VIP program.

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They use people and I don't see why the city cannot do it

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as well.

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They can help us with some of our problems.

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I got this flier the other day.

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This is for one of the people running for city council.

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This no longer mentions that he would CEO of the Boy Scouts.

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On the front it says accountability

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with measurable results and transparent decisions.

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There's probably 82,000 children that would disagree with that.

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Thank you very much.

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Community Member: Good morning city Council and everybody

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in the chamber.

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First, I want to congratulate John Fleming and Craig Williams

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on their victory for John Fleming becoming

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the next Charlotte County Commissioner.

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There was a really wonderful thing

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that happened in the county.

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The chamber looks good.

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The chamber looks great.

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I want to share things with all of you.

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We are almost here to September.

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The Florida water quality crisis has an improved since I took you

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up for the toxic -- with Alex Earnshaw.

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It has continued to decline, Councilwoman Denton.

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You should be very concerned, attorney .

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Everyone in the chamber should be concerned, as well as

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in our city and county.

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I do not see any of you at these AI data center meetings.

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I don't see any of you getting in front of harm's way.

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How many environmental advocates in the chamber this morning

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Khimik that's right.

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One.

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My battle is every day.

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I'm a soldier of Christ fighting for you whether you like it

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or not or you like me or don't like me.

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That is your issue and your problem

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to deal with God, not mine.

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Our harbor is in very bad shape.

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The river is.

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I can tell you that I've seen some new seed grass growing.

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I cannot tell you that there is thousands or hundreds of acres,

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which is unacceptable.

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I will leave you all with this --

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our city needs great leadership.

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Please vote for Vice Mayor Janine Polk and City Council

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Member Janice Denton.

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We all deserve to have great leadership.

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Thank you.

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Mayor Lux: Thank you.

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Anyone else wishing to speak this Morning?

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I apologize.

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I jumped ahead of the game.

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We need to have anyone wishing to announce themselves

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for a board or committee to come forward.

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Anyone here for a board or committee?

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It's a great suggestion to send --

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we will try not to talk from out there.

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Thank you.

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Next on the agenda is our public hearing.

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The first is quasi judicial.

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The lawyer will read it and he will swear people

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in who will speak.

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>> Quasi judicial, CCSP032026, petition for special permit

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pursuant to chapter six, section two-one E,

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Punta Gorda code to allow docks and other support structures

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to be constructed at a length of 500ft extending from the seawall

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and in configuration which don't adhere to dock location

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or alignment or extraction shape or size allowance,

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otherwise prohibited by sections two-1D6A, and two-one D6B,

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Punta Gorda code, for a proposed Marina on the submerged lands

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adjacent to and abutting the property located at 300 West

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Rita Esplanade, Punta Gorda, Florida, 33950.

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Do you want me to do it individually

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as they come up or all at once?

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If anyone wants to address the matter,

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please stand and raise your hand.

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We have five individuals.

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Do you swear to tell the truth, whole truth

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and nothing but the truth?

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Record reflects that all five agreed.

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Mayor Lux: Will you press the button?

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>> Good morning.

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Brian Clemens, city works.

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I'm here to introduce CCSP032026.

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I will give a short presentation and offer

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the applicant or their representative

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a chance to represent their portion.

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The property is at 300 West Retta Espalande.

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This is a picture of the layout.

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The original configuration was approximately 200ft with a boat

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lift.

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The proposed layout will extend about 500ft and 320ft in width.

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It will have fixed docks, floating docks, fishing pier,

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and breakwater system.

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We are here today because the code for properties on Charlotte

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Harbor or the peace River only allows for a dock extending out

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80ft into the water from the seawall.

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It only allows for a T or L configuration for the docks.

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The layout here is more elaborate than something

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like that.

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There are 62 slips proposed in the Marina.

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There will be electrical and water pedestals, sewer pump,

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breakwater structure , trash receptacles, docks boxes,

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and a fishing pier.

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We went through the process putting in a gate

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into both docks leading out.

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That has to remain secure at all times

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until the Marina is operational.

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As part of the process, chapter six, article two,

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section two-E four, there are two sections

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you are looking at granting approval or denial.

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If anyone doesn't recommend approval,

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you have to identify the item that it is not

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in compliance with.

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Based on the staff review of the project,

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we recommend favorable consideration with two

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conditions -- the first is access gate be installed

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and secured at all times until the Marina is operational?

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The second is no construction may

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begin until the sovereign submerged land

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lease consistent with the proposed project

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has been approved.

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That is all I have.

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Is a representative here at?

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Mayor Lux: First, we will ask if council has any questions.

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>> This will take a while to get used to.

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I want to state for the record that this is elevated

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because Mr. Smith was earlier and not because I'm that short.

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(laughing).

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Derek Rooney, gray Robinson law firm on behalf

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of Punta Gorda waterfront hotel.

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I think what you've done is beautiful.

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It looks like a very resilient society

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that can survive any future hardships we may face.

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I hope we do not face any, especially next season.

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To Mr. Ritchie's point and the gentleman that spoke before him,

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the city has a lot of issues facing it.

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I think it would be a good idea to have more committees

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to get more buy in and participation in our community.

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I'm joined by Phil and John from Stokes marine.

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It is pretty straightforward.

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One thing that would be insightful

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is the resiliency measures that we

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are taking to make sure this facility would

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survive future storms.

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I know that is very important to the City

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Council with its own Marina.

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As we've gone through the process,

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one of the questions that came up

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was the code doesn't have a process for marinas.

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We are essentially extending the PGE regulations

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and those in places like Jamaica Way to commercial operations.

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This is something standards need to be

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adopted for whether the village, city, or future Marina sites.

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I would recommend this.

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If you would like to hear from the presentation,

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I may ask if Phil can come up and walk us through that.

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>> Good morning.

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Phillip -- Stokes marine.

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I don't have an opportunity to go through the presentation that

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is uploaded.

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Can you do that for me?

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Thank you.

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Is there a way I can see it as well?

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There we go.

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That is a general outline of what the Marina would look like

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from this is in 2D format.

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The bright yellow portion would be floating dock and fixed dock.

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The floating dock is bright yellow.

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The off yellow is the fixed dock portion.

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Hans Wilson and associates are the engineers.

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He designed this for resiliency and to be able to get

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through the next big storms.

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There are no guarantees for when the next big event happens

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he has designed 502 marinas.

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This Marina was designed with purpose.

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It is mostly made up of steel pilings,

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which hold the floating docks.

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Then we add standard wood pilings for the fixed docks.

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The decking will be unique, perforated.

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When we have a surge and another hurricane,

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the perforated decking allows for the pressure

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of the surge to come up and through the actual decade.

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This keeps the pilings in place.

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The floating decks float up.

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These will be 14ft above elevation.

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This suggests a 10 to 12 foot surge.

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Hopefully, this keeps the dock in place

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when the surge comes up.

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There will be 63 slips .

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This is the same thing in a 3D version.

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You see the floating docks in the center.

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You will see a breakwater around the outside perimeter

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of the fixed dock.

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If you are a boater and inside the basin,

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the dock is designed to have more space inside the slip.

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The breakwater inside is held up by a bar system.

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The panels will be at a different length

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to allow for circulation.

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You will see that there's a lot of muck and stuff

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that accumulates at the end of the canal.

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We will keep the water nice and clean.

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It will circulate on its own without a bubbler in there.

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That was designed with purpose.

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Next slide.

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This is a different angle.

525
00:41:49,362 --> 00:41:51,762
This is to scale.

526
00:41:52,268 --> 00:41:55,175
The front part has panels in place.

527
00:41:55,175 --> 00:41:56,592
Another picture at the end of this

528
00:41:56,592 --> 00:41:57,800
will demonstrate this better.

529
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:03,200
These are the panels in place for the breakwater.

530
00:42:05,274 --> 00:42:08,862
This is the same thing with a different angle.

531
00:42:08,862 --> 00:42:11,442
The two entrance points are on the left side

532
00:42:11,442 --> 00:42:15,168
against the seawall and on the right side.

533
00:42:15,168 --> 00:42:20,462
There will be slips aligned along the long entrance

534
00:42:20,462 --> 00:42:22,115
on the way out.

535
00:42:22,115 --> 00:42:27,242
This is where you will tie up port side or harbor side.

536
00:42:27,242 --> 00:42:28,682
Next slide.

537
00:42:28,682 --> 00:42:33,482
There's a better example of the perforated decking.

538
00:42:34,162 --> 00:42:37,762
Traditional decking is wood or synthetic.

539
00:42:37,834 --> 00:42:39,834
These are holes.

540
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:44,622
It allows 50% less uplift to allow the water

541
00:42:44,622 --> 00:42:48,170
to go through the decking and not push underneath it.

542
00:42:48,170 --> 00:42:52,420
This is an example of what it looks like.

543
00:42:52,420 --> 00:42:56,674
There will be a guardrail around the entire facility that

544
00:42:56,674 --> 00:42:58,674
is Ada compliant.

545
00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:00,434
Next slide.

546
00:43:00,434 --> 00:43:04,482
There's a ramp that will lead from the fixed dock

547
00:43:04,482 --> 00:43:06,802
down to the floating docks.

548
00:43:06,802 --> 00:43:14,200
This is an example of the wood piles on the fixed docks.

549
00:43:14,420 --> 00:43:15,502
These are the shorter piles.

550
00:43:15,502 --> 00:43:20,422
The taller piles are steel piles 16in in diameter and half inch

551
00:43:20,422 --> 00:43:20,922
thick.

552
00:43:20,922 --> 00:43:23,802
They will be driven 25ft into the ground.

553
00:43:23,802 --> 00:43:26,422
They will be able to withstand good pressure.

554
00:43:26,422 --> 00:43:28,422
Next slide.

555
00:43:31,562 --> 00:43:33,202
Next slide.

556
00:43:33,202 --> 00:43:38,602
This is a better example of the perforated decking,

557
00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:41,474
called legacy XP.

558
00:43:41,474 --> 00:43:43,882
It is a good quality decking.

559
00:43:43,882 --> 00:43:46,778
We learned how to do this after all the storms mother

560
00:43:46,778 --> 00:43:48,290
nature through our way.

561
00:43:48,290 --> 00:43:49,932
We've had this in place.

562
00:43:49,932 --> 00:43:55,500
It has proven, tried, and true, and Hans feels pretty good

563
00:43:55,500 --> 00:43:57,832
that this can withstand the next set of storms.

564
00:43:57,832 --> 00:44:00,232
One more slide, please.

565
00:44:00,418 --> 00:44:02,882
Here's an example of the fiberglass

566
00:44:02,882 --> 00:44:05,475
panels that will act as a breakwater

567
00:44:05,475 --> 00:44:11,475
and go in outside their perimeter of the fixed dock

568
00:44:13,268 --> 00:44:13,895
portion.

569
00:44:13,895 --> 00:44:19,295
The black center is a holder of the panels.

570
00:44:20,458 --> 00:44:26,554
Some will be shorter and some will be longer to retain

571
00:44:26,554 --> 00:44:31,954
the wall required -- to retain the water quality.

572
00:44:35,862 --> 00:44:38,870
That's a quick presentation.

573
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:40,100
I'm here to answer any questions.

574
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:41,322
I will do my best.

575
00:44:41,322 --> 00:44:42,538
I'm not the engineer.

576
00:44:42,538 --> 00:44:45,962
Hans would be here but he's at a round table

577
00:44:45,962 --> 00:44:47,850
discussion in Saint Pete.

578
00:44:47,850 --> 00:44:50,988
He's one of the better engineers in the country.

579
00:44:50,988 --> 00:44:53,388
He gave me cliff.

580
00:44:53,762 --> 00:44:56,127
If he gets too technical, I will come back to you

581
00:44:56,127 --> 00:44:58,834
on the final answers of those.

582
00:44:58,834 --> 00:45:04,234
I'm happy to answer any Mayor Lux: Thank you.

583
00:45:05,180 --> 00:45:08,180
That is a great presentation.

584
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:20,992
>> I want to add that there's always questions about

585
00:45:20,992 --> 00:45:21,622
the property.

586
00:45:21,622 --> 00:45:25,602
I also live here and want to see the property cleaned up.

587
00:45:25,602 --> 00:45:28,857
I consulted with the engineering team.

588
00:45:28,857 --> 00:45:32,215
The probable cause for the Marina facility

589
00:45:32,215 --> 00:45:35,215
without upland permits is $4 million.

590
00:45:35,458 --> 00:45:37,472
The investment is substantial.

591
00:45:37,472 --> 00:45:40,982
We agree with the staff conditions that the Marina

592
00:45:40,982 --> 00:45:44,582
cannot be used without upland conditions.

593
00:45:45,882 --> 00:45:50,135
We bifurcated the project in phase one and phase two

594
00:45:50,135 --> 00:45:53,354
because we have an approved Army Corps permit.

595
00:45:53,354 --> 00:45:58,162
We want this constructed and want to commence in October

596
00:45:58,162 --> 00:46:00,514
and complete before the end of the year.

597
00:46:00,514 --> 00:46:07,733
The history of the property and the harbor walk in the Marina is

598
00:46:07,733 --> 00:46:09,733
as follows --

599
00:46:09,902 --> 00:46:15,186
the city had an agreement as far back as 2006 to put in a Marina

600
00:46:15,186 --> 00:46:16,340
and docks.

601
00:46:16,340 --> 00:46:18,442
Only the harbor walk materialized.

602
00:46:18,442 --> 00:46:22,448
As we look forward, the property owner

603
00:46:22,448 --> 00:46:28,180
has designed a plan for a 160 room hotel on the west side.

604
00:46:28,180 --> 00:46:31,762
The remainder of the property still doesn't have a use for it.

605
00:46:31,762 --> 00:46:36,122
He was originally planning to build two towers.

606
00:46:36,122 --> 00:46:41,775
The market may or may not be there for this yet.

607
00:46:41,775 --> 00:46:46,575
There's a possibility for a standalone Marina facility.

608
00:46:47,282 --> 00:46:51,266
I'm talking to Mr. Everton and Public Works

609
00:46:51,266 --> 00:46:55,426
about working with the city and combining work

610
00:46:55,426 --> 00:46:59,142
while we are mobilized to do seawalls and other improvements.

611
00:46:59,142 --> 00:47:02,450
We could have discussions at that time about public access

612
00:47:02,450 --> 00:47:05,420
and other things with the Marina.

613
00:47:05,420 --> 00:47:10,482
We are all here to answer if you have any questions.

614
00:47:10,482 --> 00:47:12,882
Mayor Lux: Thank you.

615
00:47:21,444 --> 00:47:23,361
Member Lockhart: This is a great presentation.

616
00:47:23,361 --> 00:47:24,534
Thank you very much.

617
00:47:24,534 --> 00:47:26,242
I appreciate the thoughtful consideration

618
00:47:26,242 --> 00:47:27,602
for the breakwater.

619
00:47:27,602 --> 00:47:29,714
This is obviously needed.

620
00:47:29,714 --> 00:47:35,820
If a boat broke loose, it would be contained.

621
00:47:35,820 --> 00:47:38,222
We know what it is like to have a boat floating around

622
00:47:38,222 --> 00:47:40,442
in the park and landing there.

623
00:47:40,442 --> 00:47:43,626
The water flow through is very important.

624
00:47:43,626 --> 00:47:44,792
Very good design.

625
00:47:44,792 --> 00:47:46,962
Thanks for the thoughtful input.

626
00:47:46,962 --> 00:47:50,978
We want the hotel and the property to move ahead.

627
00:47:50,978 --> 00:47:55,778
I appreciate all the thinking going into it.

628
00:47:58,217 --> 00:48:04,217
We are a Maritime city and this will reestablish that.

629
00:48:04,944 --> 00:48:07,944
[previous speaker was Member Denton]

630
00:48:18,327 --> 00:48:21,922
Vice Mayor Polk: This has been long in coming.

631
00:48:21,922 --> 00:48:23,642
You've been keeping us abreast.

632
00:48:23,642 --> 00:48:26,782
I'm in the process of building a home

633
00:48:26,782 --> 00:48:29,602
and it takes time to do something of this magnitude.

634
00:48:29,602 --> 00:48:32,682
I appreciate the patience of the city.

635
00:48:32,682 --> 00:48:34,304
This will take a while.

636
00:48:34,304 --> 00:48:37,282
This is a Marina coming to us.

637
00:48:37,282 --> 00:48:40,802
Like you said, we don't have anything in land development

638
00:48:40,802 --> 00:48:44,708
regulations that would help with the docking area.

639
00:48:44,708 --> 00:48:46,666
I'm so excited about this.

640
00:48:46,666 --> 00:48:48,786
I can't even stand it.

641
00:48:48,786 --> 00:48:50,705
I'm looking forward to this moving forward

642
00:48:50,705 --> 00:48:52,122
and I appreciate the presentation.

643
00:48:52,122 --> 00:48:54,122
Thank you.

644
00:49:00,615 --> 00:49:01,762
Mayor Lux: That was great.

645
00:49:01,762 --> 00:49:03,762
Anybody else?

646
00:49:05,228 --> 00:49:07,228
Derek.

647
00:49:14,151 --> 00:49:17,786
>> There were five total people who rose their hands to get

648
00:49:17,786 --> 00:49:18,514
sworn in.

649
00:49:18,514 --> 00:49:20,514
Are there others?

650
00:49:21,882 --> 00:49:23,842
Mayor Lux: We are done with the presentation.

651
00:49:23,842 --> 00:49:27,368
We had questions and now we will go to the public.

652
00:49:27,368 --> 00:49:30,368
Did you swear in, Tim?

653
00:49:30,739 --> 00:49:34,339
You need to be sworn in.

654
00:49:42,501 --> 00:49:44,668
>> Do you swear to tell the truth come a whole truth

655
00:49:44,668 --> 00:49:47,668
and nothing but the truth?

656
00:50:02,247 --> 00:50:04,777
Community Member: How many more slips

657
00:50:04,777 --> 00:50:10,777
are we going to have from what was originally there?

658
00:50:12,532 --> 00:50:18,668
Secondly, I don't want anyone to fall out of their chairs

659
00:50:18,668 --> 00:50:19,842
this morning.

660
00:50:19,842 --> 00:50:24,642
I can throw some curveballs from the mound.

661
00:50:25,826 --> 00:50:28,226
I actually like this.

662
00:50:30,282 --> 00:50:35,682
This is the type of growth I'm interested in.

663
00:50:37,122 --> 00:50:41,468
I can tell you that I haven't sent any letters to the Army

664
00:50:41,468 --> 00:50:45,680
Corps of Engineers about the project,

665
00:50:45,362 --> 00:50:49,562
but I stand adamant about no Marina

666
00:50:50,874 --> 00:50:54,474
ever in Sunseeker or Sawtooth territory.

667
00:50:57,352 --> 00:50:58,902
Ever.

668
00:50:58,902 --> 00:51:00,452
No.

669
00:51:00,452 --> 00:51:02,452
Period.

670
00:51:02,642 --> 00:51:04,622
One word sentence.

671
00:51:04,622 --> 00:51:07,220
But this is good.

672
00:51:09,162 --> 00:51:13,962
We are a fishing community, Council member Denton.

673
00:51:14,230 --> 00:51:17,230
We are a boating community.

674
00:51:17,930 --> 00:51:21,922
Too bad we aren't a surfing community.

675
00:51:21,922 --> 00:51:27,322
Too bad we don't have waves on our beach.

676
00:51:27,482 --> 00:51:30,139
This is the type of smart growth we

677
00:51:30,139 --> 00:51:35,820
want to see in the city of Punta Gorda.

678
00:51:35,820 --> 00:51:40,482
We love the idea of one hotel building there.

679
00:51:42,175 --> 00:51:46,562
What ultimately would have been the best situation for that

680
00:51:46,562 --> 00:51:53,762
property would have been for the city to purchase this and turn

681
00:51:54,248 --> 00:51:59,122
it into the detention pond that Mr. Ritchie so

682
00:51:59,122 --> 00:52:05,122
eloquently presented to the city to help save downtown flooding?

683
00:52:05,972 --> 00:52:09,570
I don't see any other leaders in town

684
00:52:09,570 --> 00:52:10,666
giving presentations like this.

685
00:52:10,666 --> 00:52:15,242
I know that Attorney Rooney is aware of my efforts,

686
00:52:15,242 --> 00:52:21,842
but I don't see other gentlemen doing this type of stuff .

687
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:27,480
Mayor Lux: Tim, I disconnected you.

688
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,880
Let's stay on topic.

689
00:52:29,902 --> 00:52:32,902
You have to press again.

690
00:52:35,550 --> 00:52:38,370
Community Member: (laughing) this will

691
00:52:38,370 --> 00:52:40,135
be some training to this, guys.

692
00:52:40,135 --> 00:52:43,735
Old dogs can learn new tricks.

693
00:52:43,842 --> 00:52:45,402
This is good.

694
00:52:45,402 --> 00:52:46,495
We like this.

695
00:52:46,495 --> 00:52:49,658
We like that the water will flow.

696
00:52:49,658 --> 00:52:51,375
I understand why.

697
00:52:51,375 --> 00:52:53,802
I saw Marina Del Rey getting built when

698
00:52:53,802 --> 00:52:58,200
I was a young man, way back.

699
00:52:58,682 --> 00:53:00,682
Thank you.

700
00:53:05,367 --> 00:53:07,392
>> I just had one follow up comment.

701
00:53:07,392 --> 00:53:10,220
I believe Derek touched on that.

702
00:53:10,220 --> 00:53:14,222
We have the state endorsement and the..

703
00:53:14,482 --> 00:53:17,156
We have the Army Corps..

704
00:53:17,156 --> 00:53:21,175
The permits have been in place for 17 years.

705
00:53:21,175 --> 00:53:25,975
This was applied for a long time ago.

706
00:53:27,407 --> 00:53:31,714
We are trying to get this done pretty quickly.

707
00:53:31,714 --> 00:53:36,514
The Army Corps permit expires in January of 2027.

708
00:53:40,322 --> 00:53:44,862
We are in position to get a lot of crews up here.

709
00:53:44,862 --> 00:53:47,110
It will be a fast start and you will

710
00:53:47,110 --> 00:53:51,322
see it go up quickly, because we are chasing the Army Corps

711
00:53:51,322 --> 00:53:53,322
permit.

712
00:53:53,642 --> 00:53:59,420
We try to pass the permit past January second

713
00:54:02,210 --> 00:54:05,210
and they didn't let us.

714
00:54:06,886 --> 00:54:10,200
Any other questions while I'm here?

715
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,602
Mayor Lux: The land lease approved.

716
00:54:13,962 --> 00:54:17,562
>> I will hand that to Derek.

717
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:23,495
>> The land lease went to the cabinet over the summer and was

718
00:54:23,495 --> 00:54:23,995
approved.

719
00:54:23,995 --> 00:54:28,498
Some of you know that I'm the president and head check.

720
00:54:28,498 --> 00:54:30,668
There's a public interest component

721
00:54:30,668 --> 00:54:34,594
that requires the landowner pay a substantial six figure

722
00:54:34,594 --> 00:54:37,794
sum of money in exchange for the land lease.

723
00:54:37,794 --> 00:54:43,258
They denied our request to have the money stay local and check.

724
00:54:43,258 --> 00:54:47,755
I'm still pursuing an appeal on the issue.

725
00:54:47,755 --> 00:54:50,642
The goal is to get the money to stay in the community

726
00:54:50,642 --> 00:54:51,906
and benefit the city.

727
00:54:51,906 --> 00:54:53,122
Thank you.

728
00:54:53,122 --> 00:54:55,522
Mayor Lux: Thank you.

729
00:54:57,722 --> 00:55:00,802
Do we have any more public input?

730
00:55:00,802 --> 00:55:05,602
You need to be sworn in, Mr. Higgins.

731
00:55:19,504 --> 00:55:22,882
>> Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth,

732
00:55:22,882 --> 00:55:25,882
and nothing but the truth?

733
00:55:26,922 --> 00:55:30,442
Community Member: Niles Higgins, Punta Gorda resident.

734
00:55:30,442 --> 00:55:31,855
I'm a little confused.

735
00:55:31,855 --> 00:55:33,842
I think this project is a good thing

736
00:55:33,842 --> 00:55:39,546
but I'm not sure what size boats it will accommodate.

737
00:55:39,546 --> 00:55:44,546
Are these transient slips and will people live aboard?

738
00:55:44,546 --> 00:55:49,155
I didn't see anything where the pumpout stations would be.

739
00:55:49,155 --> 00:55:58,155
I can tell you that I had a boat at Trump City in Atlantic City,

740
00:55:58,922 --> 00:55:59,898
new Jersey.

741
00:55:59,898 --> 00:56:05,362
People are not entitled to drive the boat around the pump

742
00:56:05,362 --> 00:56:05,922
station.

743
00:56:05,922 --> 00:56:08,762
They wait until nighttime and dump.

744
00:56:08,762 --> 00:56:11,872
That is the last thing we need in our harbor.

745
00:56:11,872 --> 00:56:17,420
I think there has to be really good accessibility

746
00:56:17,420 --> 00:56:19,420
at Pumpout stations.

747
00:56:21,242 --> 00:56:27,684
We have to make sure people don't pump their wastewater out

748
00:56:27,684 --> 00:56:28,652
into the harbor.

749
00:56:28,652 --> 00:56:30,652
Thank you.

750
00:56:31,362 --> 00:56:34,362
>> Very good question and concern.

751
00:56:34,498 --> 00:56:36,820
I'm glad you asked.

752
00:56:36,820 --> 00:56:38,902
There is a pump out station in the design.

753
00:56:38,902 --> 00:56:44,902
No one wants to flush the water out of their.

754
00:56:47,482 --> 00:56:51,220
The Marina was designed for shallow draft boats.

755
00:56:51,220 --> 00:56:55,942
It is an aquatic preserve and dredging is not an option.

756
00:56:55,942 --> 00:56:59,988
It will accommodate boats 35 to 60ft in range.

757
00:56:59,988 --> 00:57:05,788
The draft would be anything from 60in from two feet for a smaller

758
00:57:05,788 --> 00:57:09,482
vessel, up to a 60 foot vessel, depending on where they would

759
00:57:09,482 --> 00:57:10,562
position them.

760
00:57:10,562 --> 00:57:17,762
To your point there will be a pump out station on site.

761
00:57:18,682 --> 00:57:24,282
Let's hope that they use it and do the right thing.

762
00:57:24,282 --> 00:57:30,882
Lincoln Marine will likely be the designer of the fire station

763
00:57:32,900 --> 00:57:33,882
and pump out solution.

764
00:57:33,882 --> 00:57:39,466
I don't know if it will have live aboard and transient.

765
00:57:39,466 --> 00:57:43,879
We design it and build it and I'm not sure

766
00:57:43,879 --> 00:57:49,279
how it will be used from there on out.

767
00:57:49,687 --> 00:57:54,328
>> It is intended for use as day docks at the moment.

768
00:57:54,328 --> 00:57:58,528
Until the upland use comes into play,

769
00:57:58,842 --> 00:58:01,158
the owner hasn't decided to make this a supplement

770
00:58:01,158 --> 00:58:04,420
to restaurants, retail, and hotel.

771
00:58:04,420 --> 00:58:07,210
I've spoken with the council at some point.

772
00:58:07,210 --> 00:58:09,930
There was an explanation by the owner

773
00:58:09,930 --> 00:58:15,330
into a vertical storage facility and having boat storage

774
00:58:15,515 --> 00:58:17,175
as a use.

775
00:58:17,175 --> 00:58:19,332
I've heard from the council that this

776
00:58:19,332 --> 00:58:21,482
is an appropriate for the area.

777
00:58:21,482 --> 00:58:25,820
He took that off the table.

778
00:58:26,202 --> 00:58:31,178
I think the ultimate goal is to have activity.

779
00:58:31,178 --> 00:58:35,978
Whatever the final use of the upland is ,

780
00:58:40,228 --> 00:58:42,202
there's an intention for the participant.

781
00:58:42,202 --> 00:58:44,420
There may be Dockage.

782
00:58:44,420 --> 00:58:49,442
We may work out arrangements for some storage permit

783
00:58:52,104 --> 00:58:54,535
64 slips is a lot of docking.

784
00:58:54,535 --> 00:58:58,322
We go back to the city and property owner working together

785
00:58:58,322 --> 00:59:01,522
to have a long term facility for boats.

786
00:59:01,522 --> 00:59:04,634
This is before all the upgrades at the marine

787
00:59:04,634 --> 00:59:07,622
and before anything happening at Fishermen's Village.

788
00:59:07,622 --> 00:59:09,767
The use is still in flux.

789
00:59:09,767 --> 00:59:12,849
The goal is to get it in place and not

790
00:59:12,849 --> 00:59:16,202
let all the years of hard work disappear.

791
00:59:16,202 --> 00:59:18,420
Mayor Lux: Thank you.

792
00:59:18,420 --> 00:59:23,442
We will open it back up to public input again.

793
00:59:23,442 --> 00:59:26,442
Should we close public input?

794
00:59:45,992 --> 00:59:47,992
>> Rachel, zoning official.

795
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:52,706
I want to note that Liveaboard Marina or vessels would

796
00:59:52,706 --> 00:59:54,122
have to come back in front of you

797
00:59:54,122 --> 00:59:58,200
for public hearings for the approval of.

798
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,402
Mayor Lux: Thank you.

799
01:00:01,962 --> 01:00:04,362
Let's finish public input.

800
01:00:05,162 --> 01:00:07,162
Anybody else?

801
01:00:27,620 --> 01:00:30,629
Member Lockhart: I don't see any power pedestals.

802
01:00:30,629 --> 01:00:33,962
I want to ask that question.

803
01:00:33,962 --> 01:00:36,962
>> What was the second question?

804
01:00:44,812 --> 01:00:46,895
Member Denton: You need them for overnight moorage

805
01:00:46,895 --> 01:00:49,895
and will there be water?

806
01:00:54,640 --> 01:01:00,280
>> Yes, there will be there will be 64 hose bibs and 34 power

807
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,428
pedestals from 30 to 50 amps.

808
01:01:03,650 --> 01:01:06,642
There will be one pedestal at every location

809
01:01:06,642 --> 01:01:10,242
with two bibs on each side.

810
01:01:16,351 --> 01:01:17,934
Mayor Lux: Last time for public input.

811
01:01:17,934 --> 01:01:24,534
I will lead a motion if we don't have any more.

812
01:01:26,165 --> 01:01:28,820
Member Julian: I move to close public comment.

813
01:01:28,820 --> 01:01:31,820
Vice Mayor Polk: I second.

814
01:01:32,642 --> 01:01:36,815
Mayor Lux: How do we do this with all in favor?

815
01:01:36,815 --> 01:01:38,752
We will raise our hands.

816
01:01:38,752 --> 01:01:41,322
All in favor of closing public comment?

817
01:01:41,322 --> 01:01:42,652
Opposed?

818
01:01:42,652 --> 01:01:44,652
Motion carries.

819
01:01:45,312 --> 01:01:48,122
Let's talk amongst each other.

820
01:01:48,122 --> 01:01:51,722
>> Can I make a procedural request?

821
01:01:51,841 --> 01:01:54,942
I cannot see all hands being raised,

822
01:01:54,942 --> 01:01:59,142
so let me know if anyone descends.

823
01:02:00,420 --> 01:02:01,281
Mayor Lux: Absolutely.

824
01:02:01,281 --> 01:02:02,761
Everyone raise their hands.

825
01:02:02,761 --> 01:02:04,761
Jeanine?

826
01:02:06,482 --> 01:02:09,969
Vice Mayor Polk: This is a wonderful idea.

827
01:02:09,969 --> 01:02:11,880
The concept is great.

828
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,881
I'm hoping it will come to fruition soon.

829
01:02:13,881 --> 01:02:17,442
I know you guys were in a rush.

830
01:02:17,442 --> 01:02:22,242
I will be moving to approve the study.

831
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,815
Member Julian: All my questions and concerns were addressed

832
01:02:27,815 --> 01:02:32,615
and I'm prepared to approve it as well.

833
01:02:33,761 --> 01:02:38,561
Mayor Lux: I want to thank the --

834
01:02:42,336 --> 01:02:44,598
Member Denton: I want to thank the staff for this.

835
01:02:44,598 --> 01:02:46,562
Hans Wilson is a great resource.

836
01:02:46,562 --> 01:02:48,764
That teamwork is excellent and I agree that we

837
01:02:48,764 --> 01:02:52,364
need to move forward on this.

838
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:56,620
Mayor Lux: I agree.

839
01:02:56,620 --> 01:03:01,420
I think what Mr. Rooney brought up was changing section six.

840
01:03:01,420 --> 01:03:05,242
Maybe we need a consensus on that,

841
01:03:06,312 --> 01:03:10,335
so we can bring section six in for commercial.

842
01:03:10,335 --> 01:03:14,548
Can I have a raise of hands if you are in consensus?

843
01:03:14,548 --> 01:03:16,948
Everyone raised their hand.

844
01:03:17,722 --> 01:03:18,522
Thank you.

845
01:03:18,522 --> 01:03:21,522
I will need a motion.

846
01:03:22,482 --> 01:03:25,482
>> Motion to approve three a.

847
01:03:27,842 --> 01:03:31,442
Member Denton: I second the motion.

848
01:03:32,562 --> 01:03:37,962
>> Does that include the staff's two conditions they noted?

849
01:03:38,682 --> 01:03:42,102
Mayor Lux: Yes, I believe the submerged lease

850
01:03:42,102 --> 01:03:45,115
line was approved and the second is security

851
01:03:45,115 --> 01:03:47,762
at all times for the gates.

852
01:03:47,762 --> 01:03:49,762
Amend that.

853
01:03:51,202 --> 01:03:53,202
>> So amended.

854
01:03:54,562 --> 01:03:57,713
Mayor Lux: You okay with that Janice?

855
01:03:57,713 --> 01:04:00,546
All in favor raise your hand.

856
01:04:00,546 --> 01:04:03,546
All four raised their hand.

857
01:04:03,962 --> 01:04:05,962
Opposed are zero.

858
01:04:06,762 --> 01:04:07,466
Motion carries.

859
01:04:07,466 --> 01:04:10,466
Thanks for the great presentation.

860
01:04:11,402 --> 01:04:15,200
Next on our list is legislative.

861
01:04:16,522 --> 01:04:19,522
There will be public input.

862
01:04:20,282 --> 01:04:22,282
Doctor Leskovic.

863
01:04:25,930 --> 01:04:30,730
>> Item three B, legislative z a zero eight 2026.

864
01:04:32,146 --> 01:04:34,546
Proposed amendments to chapter 26,

865
01:04:34,690 --> 01:04:37,748
Land Development Regulations to update the historic Preservation

866
01:04:37,748 --> 01:04:40,148
Regulations and overlay districts

867
01:04:40,602 --> 01:04:44,202
require disclosure of historic property designation,

868
01:04:45,162 --> 01:04:48,507
reestablish the local register of historic places,

869
01:04:48,507 --> 01:04:51,655
review procedures, and amend Historic Preservation Board

870
01:04:51,655 --> 01:04:52,762
Authority.

871
01:04:52,762 --> 01:04:55,762
This is the first reading.

872
01:04:57,122 --> 01:05:02,522
>> Good morning Council, Rachel Berry, official for the record.

873
01:05:03,220 --> 01:05:07,842
As was read into the record, this is hearing ZA082026.

874
01:05:07,842 --> 01:05:12,420
There are several changes in the ordinance.

875
01:05:12,162 --> 01:05:15,432
All of them are related to historic preservation.

876
01:05:15,432 --> 01:05:19,702
I know there was a question at pre agenda on Monday

877
01:05:19,702 --> 01:05:23,242
as to whether SB 180 could be involved.

878
01:05:23,242 --> 01:05:29,842
I don't know if we need this clarification before we start.

879
01:05:37,769 --> 01:05:40,178
>> Council Julian brought up whether this could be

880
01:05:40,178 --> 01:05:43,170
in conflict with the Senate bill s.

881
01:05:43,170 --> 01:05:49,388
The Senate bill stay in effect at least until summer of 2027.

882
01:05:49,388 --> 01:05:54,188
There appears to be conflict with Senate bills

883
01:05:56,322 --> 01:06:00,258
my recommendation is to not move forward with this.

884
01:06:00,258 --> 01:06:03,970
We are trying to modify chapter 26 with this.

885
01:06:03,970 --> 01:06:06,482
We don't want the possibility of this

886
01:06:06,482 --> 01:06:10,820
being considered more restrictive or burdensome

887
01:06:10,642 --> 01:06:12,642
on a homeowner.

888
01:06:16,176 --> 01:06:20,642
Mayor Lux: Mr. Leskovik, even with prior land development

889
01:06:20,642 --> 01:06:25,442
recommendations, I think council and staff move forward

890
01:06:26,420 --> 01:06:29,224
with stating that it would only take effect

891
01:06:29,224 --> 01:06:31,948
if the SB 180 is removed.

892
01:06:31,948 --> 01:06:35,915
Is it okay for staff to move forward and do this,

893
01:06:35,915 --> 01:06:40,115
so we are not waiting and waiting?

894
01:06:41,922 --> 01:06:47,922
>> You can certainly move forward but for council to amend

895
01:06:49,122 --> 01:06:52,122
, I'm asking you to pause.

896
01:06:52,282 --> 01:06:56,482
Mayor Lux: We can approve pending SB 180?

897
01:06:59,162 --> 01:07:00,882
>> Yes.

898
01:07:00,882 --> 01:07:03,282
>> Thank you for that.

899
01:07:03,748 --> 01:07:07,522
To cover some of the changes, the proposed updates

900
01:07:07,522 --> 01:07:09,922
include section 3.14 of chapter 26,

901
01:07:11,820 --> 01:07:13,962
for the historic overlay district.

902
01:07:13,962 --> 01:07:16,962
Section 8.1 references demolition and --

903
01:07:23,937 --> 01:07:24,915
of historic buildings?

904
01:07:24,915 --> 01:07:28,762
Section 15.4 for the Historic Preservation Advisory Board.

905
01:07:28,762 --> 01:07:32,362
Also comments 16.3, applications for a Certificate

906
01:07:32,482 --> 01:07:34,882
of Appropriateness and 16.5, application

907
01:07:36,415 --> 01:07:37,875
for demolition permits.

908
01:07:37,875 --> 01:07:42,370
As most of you know, the Historic Preservation Board

909
01:07:42,370 --> 01:07:46,942
has had many meetings through the last two years

910
01:07:46,942 --> 01:07:50,802
to get more attraction with repairing damages

911
01:07:50,802 --> 01:07:54,402
during the storms and more enforceability

912
01:07:55,442 --> 01:07:58,520
when it comes to historic preservation.

913
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,252
One of the discussed ideas was disclosure

914
01:08:03,602 --> 01:08:07,152
of historic designation when properties are sold.

915
01:08:07,152 --> 01:08:10,379
If approved, the city would draw up a form

916
01:08:10,379 --> 01:08:12,331
and we would get with realtor associations

917
01:08:12,331 --> 01:08:14,422
to make sure everyone is educated

918
01:08:14,422 --> 01:08:16,805
on what we are requesting.

919
01:08:16,805 --> 01:08:19,182
We would most likely require the certificates

920
01:08:19,182 --> 01:08:25,162
to be recorded with a deed, so it comes up

921
01:08:25,162 --> 01:08:30,162
with public record when people are doing their title search.

922
01:08:30,162 --> 01:08:32,762
Another proposed change was to the historic Preservation

923
01:08:32,762 --> 01:08:35,762
advisory boards role and duties.

924
01:08:37,826 --> 01:08:45,260
One is to strike "advisory" from the committee's name and to be

925
01:08:45,602 --> 01:08:47,562
known as a Historic Preservation Board.

926
01:08:47,562 --> 01:08:49,712
There was a question about appropriateness

927
01:08:49,712 --> 01:08:54,512
when it comes to replacing windows, doors, Siding,

928
01:08:55,672 --> 01:08:57,672
and roofing.

929
01:09:00,372 --> 01:09:04,572
The approvals would go to the board

930
01:09:04,782 --> 01:09:07,547
and then come to City Council for determination.

931
01:09:07,547 --> 01:09:11,562
I want to point out that this could take more time when it

932
01:09:11,562 --> 01:09:14,562
comes to hearing certain items.

933
01:09:15,962 --> 01:09:19,976
One of the other major things in the ordinance that we

934
01:09:19,976 --> 01:09:24,106
are most excited about is re adopting the local register

935
01:09:24,106 --> 01:09:28,906
of the historic places and National Register District

936
01:09:28,962 --> 01:09:30,295
contributing structures.

937
01:09:30,295 --> 01:09:36,200
As part of the process, we sent out hundreds of letters.

938
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:40,282
They were customized based on whether the property was not

939
01:09:40,282 --> 01:09:42,714
included in the 2024 updates when

940
01:09:42,714 --> 01:09:44,822
the local register was adopted.

941
01:09:44,822 --> 01:09:47,434
There were questions whether they

942
01:09:47,434 --> 01:09:54,340
were added or removed in that time or remained the same.

943
01:09:55,202 --> 01:09:59,580
Also there's a question of whether they are designated

944
01:09:59,580 --> 01:10:01,738
or not and are to be included and not.

945
01:10:01,738 --> 01:10:05,946
We sent several hundred letters to those that apply to.

946
01:10:05,946 --> 01:10:10,146
For those not included before, not designated

947
01:10:10,626 --> 01:10:14,226
and not proposed to be designated,

948
01:10:14,482 --> 01:10:18,820
we didn't send letters to those 250.

949
01:10:19,946 --> 01:10:23,546
One of the planning Commission recommendations

950
01:10:25,748 --> 01:10:29,328
was to include an opt in and opt out

951
01:10:29,328 --> 01:10:31,520
procedure for at least six months

952
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,652
after the local register was approved.

953
01:10:39,482 --> 01:10:42,602
This way homeowners that haven't had time

954
01:10:42,602 --> 01:10:44,882
to weigh having the designation or not

955
01:10:44,882 --> 01:10:49,818
would still have a time frame to say that they didn't want this

956
01:10:49,818 --> 01:10:53,122
and to indicate whether they wanted to be included or not.

957
01:10:53,122 --> 01:10:56,668
When the ordinance comes back to you all,

958
01:10:56,668 --> 01:11:00,902
we would bring a resolution that would outline the process.

959
01:11:00,902 --> 01:11:03,282
Staff would gather a list of the owners,

960
01:11:03,282 --> 01:11:07,242
take them to the next preservation board

961
01:11:07,242 --> 01:11:10,842
and have another preservation board have

962
01:11:13,398 --> 01:11:18,802
a discussion on whether the property would be approved then

963
01:11:18,802 --> 01:11:21,962
it would come to council in six months

964
01:11:21,962 --> 01:11:24,962
and in ordinance would stand.

965
01:11:28,802 --> 01:11:34,202
Last but not least, there are historic district overlays.

966
01:11:38,362 --> 01:11:41,475
Many properties wouldn't be on the local register anymore.

967
01:11:41,475 --> 01:11:45,562
They would still be located inside an overlay district,

968
01:11:45,562 --> 01:11:50,202
which has design regulations and requirements to keep the feel

969
01:11:50,202 --> 01:11:52,602
of the historic district.

970
01:11:54,362 --> 01:11:57,192
I believe that is all I have at the moment.

971
01:11:57,192 --> 01:11:59,592
Any questions for me?

972
01:12:00,522 --> 01:12:03,194
Mayor Lux: Thanks for the clarification.

973
01:12:03,194 --> 01:12:05,194
Any questions?

974
01:12:10,158 --> 01:12:11,741
Member Julian: I don't have a question

975
01:12:11,741 --> 01:12:14,202
but I want to make clear that my intention isn't

976
01:12:14,202 --> 01:12:16,122
to hold things up.

977
01:12:16,122 --> 01:12:17,722
This is good progress.

978
01:12:17,722 --> 01:12:21,514
I wanted to make sure we didn't get crosswise with the law.

979
01:12:21,514 --> 01:12:26,402
I appreciate the consideration for extended time for attorney

980
01:12:26,402 --> 01:12:30,200
and staff to work that out.

981
01:12:36,866 --> 01:12:37,741
Vice Mayor Polk: Yes.

982
01:12:37,741 --> 01:12:40,668
There may be things more restrictive but there are things

983
01:12:40,668 --> 01:12:46,680
that are not, like striking "advisory" from the name.

984
01:12:49,215 --> 01:12:51,762
There are other things we could have approved.

985
01:12:51,762 --> 01:12:55,970
If it's even one thing, it is put together all as one.

986
01:12:55,970 --> 01:12:57,528
That is why we couldn't approve it all today.

987
01:12:57,528 --> 01:13:01,330
The problem is that in the historic district there were

988
01:13:01,330 --> 01:13:07,300
people waiting on the list -- this is confusing and convoluted

989
01:13:07,300 --> 01:13:10,962
-- and prior to the storms were removed from the list.

990
01:13:10,962 --> 01:13:14,362
They are now up against the 50% rule where they

991
01:13:14,362 --> 01:13:16,784
have to knock the home down.

992
01:13:16,784 --> 01:13:23,984
But if they were on the list they would have been protected.

993
01:13:24,420 --> 01:13:27,834
This has been a real hairy mess.

994
01:13:27,834 --> 01:13:31,915
Thanks to staff for trying to figure it out.

995
01:13:31,915 --> 01:13:35,515
We need to do this expeditiously.

996
01:13:35,922 --> 01:13:40,562
I had someone ask me at one of the meetings what they can do.

997
01:13:40,562 --> 01:13:42,942
I told them that they could get an appraisal.

998
01:13:42,942 --> 01:13:45,236
I don't know how to help them.

999
01:13:45,236 --> 01:13:48,670
They were on it, were taken off of it,

1000
01:13:48,670 --> 01:13:50,868
and now have to knock their home down.

1001
01:13:50,868 --> 01:13:52,542
This is a big issue.

1002
01:13:52,542 --> 01:13:54,542
Thank you.

1003
01:14:00,549 --> 01:14:02,700
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney:

1004
01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:03,194
I will get with staff as quickly as possible to work

1005
01:14:03,194 --> 01:14:04,855
on these issues raised.

1006
01:14:04,855 --> 01:14:11,322
We will see what we can do about it and it will become lawful.

1007
01:14:11,322 --> 01:14:14,796
Vice Mayor Polk: Thank you for that.

1008
01:14:14,796 --> 01:14:17,302
When a realtor sold my home, I did not

1009
01:14:17,302 --> 01:14:19,490
know it was on a historic registry.

1010
01:14:19,490 --> 01:14:23,236
I was someone who later received a letter that I was no longer

1011
01:14:23,236 --> 01:14:25,412
on the historic registry.

1012
01:14:25,412 --> 01:14:28,386
I didn't know I was in the first place.

1013
01:14:28,386 --> 01:14:31,890
It is important that this gets pushed through as quickly

1014
01:14:31,890 --> 01:14:37,852
as possible, so when realtors are selling like homes --

1015
01:14:37,852 --> 01:14:42,522
and they are selling like hotcakes because they are

1016
01:14:42,522 --> 01:14:47,260
selling at a discount since people walked away from

1017
01:14:47,260 --> 01:14:53,260
a flooded home -- we get this done as expeditiously

1018
01:14:54,950 --> 01:14:56,950
as possible.

1019
01:14:57,242 --> 01:14:59,642
Mayor Lux: Anything else?

1020
01:15:02,642 --> 01:15:08,642
I think resolutions like to get their realtor letter out

1021
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,242
to help these people move on.

1022
01:15:11,242 --> 01:15:13,162
This is very important.

1023
01:15:13,162 --> 01:15:15,562
Thank you, Mr. Leskovich.

1024
01:15:18,664 --> 01:15:21,640
Anybody else have anything?

1025
01:15:22,392 --> 01:15:27,192
We will open it up for public input.

1026
01:15:27,842 --> 01:15:32,420
Please state your name for the record.

1027
01:15:34,322 --> 01:15:36,322
Press the button.

1028
01:15:38,682 --> 01:15:41,380
Community Member: My name is Kurt Habel

1029
01:15:41,380 --> 01:15:44,686
and I live downtown at 301 Goldstein.

1030
01:15:44,686 --> 01:15:46,455
I received the letter.

1031
01:15:46,455 --> 01:15:48,794
It was written on July 13th.

1032
01:15:48,794 --> 01:15:53,594
The meeting was supposed to be July 27th.

1033
01:15:54,422 --> 01:15:58,619
The letter was stamped July 24th at the Post Office.

1034
01:15:58,619 --> 01:15:59,882
That is a Friday.

1035
01:15:59,882 --> 01:16:03,950
It probably went out on Saturday and I might not

1036
01:16:03,950 --> 01:16:04,984
have gotten it since Monday.

1037
01:16:04,984 --> 01:16:07,842
I wasn't in town and was at a wedding out of state.

1038
01:16:07,842 --> 01:16:09,576
I wouldn't be able to make it.

1039
01:16:09,576 --> 01:16:11,548
I was told that it wasn't a big deal

1040
01:16:11,548 --> 01:16:15,575
because there was a box checked on my particular one.

1041
01:16:15,575 --> 01:16:17,302
I don't know the definitive reason.

1042
01:16:17,302 --> 01:16:21,508
How can it be written on the 13th when it isn't put

1043
01:16:21,508 --> 01:16:23,800
into the post office until the 24th?

1044
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,970
We are supposed to be here the 27th.

1045
01:16:25,970 --> 01:16:27,188
That isn't fair.

1046
01:16:27,188 --> 01:16:30,464
If there were 250 that got sent out,

1047
01:16:30,464 --> 01:16:37,664
you need to ask people that didn't show up if they had

1048
01:16:37,742 --> 01:16:41,942
a chance to go to the meeting.

1049
01:16:42,762 --> 01:16:46,200
I had already missed the meeting because I didn't get

1050
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,162
home until late Tuesday night.

1051
01:16:48,162 --> 01:16:49,242
That isn't fair.

1052
01:16:49,242 --> 01:16:51,138
We need a better system.

1053
01:16:51,138 --> 01:16:52,682
It cannot be written.

1054
01:16:52,682 --> 01:16:55,908
Did it sit in someone's drawer for two weeks?

1055
01:16:55,908 --> 01:16:59,374
I had no opportunity to respond.

1056
01:16:59,374 --> 01:17:04,870
What does the box mean that was marked on my page?

1057
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:06,512
I may be for it.

1058
01:17:06,512 --> 01:17:09,908
I told Adriana that I wanted to build my house.

1059
01:17:09,908 --> 01:17:14,522
I don't know what the definitive differences and benefits are.

1060
01:17:14,522 --> 01:17:20,202
It is complicated for me and it is probably complicated for you.

1061
01:17:20,202 --> 01:17:24,188
If it's complicated for you, it is complicated for the citizens.

1062
01:17:24,188 --> 01:17:26,813
I would like to ask for clarity on this.

1063
01:17:26,813 --> 01:17:30,605
A lot of people come including me come I never got the letter.

1064
01:17:30,605 --> 01:17:32,539
I have the letter at home.

1065
01:17:32,539 --> 01:17:33,862
I will show it to you.

1066
01:17:33,862 --> 01:17:35,202
I showed it to Adriana.

1067
01:17:35,202 --> 01:17:37,402
She has been wonderful.

1068
01:17:37,402 --> 01:17:39,354
I do not fault her because she's probably

1069
01:17:39,354 --> 01:17:41,207
not the one that sent it out.

1070
01:17:41,207 --> 01:17:45,562
I would like to show this to you as proof because it is unjust.

1071
01:17:45,562 --> 01:17:49,762
When my vested rights got bumped back,

1072
01:17:50,150 --> 01:17:53,150
it was failed to advertise.

1073
01:17:54,528 --> 01:17:58,338
We had to bump it back, which caused me more pain.

1074
01:17:58,338 --> 01:18:03,570
I probably would have gotten it the day of the notice.

1075
01:18:03,570 --> 01:18:05,254
It cannot be both ways.

1076
01:18:05,254 --> 01:18:08,674
The citizens cannot lose every single time.

1077
01:18:08,674 --> 01:18:12,835
I would like to meet with you, show you the letter,

1078
01:18:12,835 --> 01:18:16,420
and find out the meaning of the letter.

1079
01:18:16,420 --> 01:18:17,882
There's a box marked on there.

1080
01:18:17,882 --> 01:18:19,712
You should give everyone an opportunity

1081
01:18:19,712 --> 01:18:22,162
by sending the letter again a lot of people

1082
01:18:22,162 --> 01:18:23,822
did not get the letter or didn't get it

1083
01:18:23,822 --> 01:18:25,822
in time to come to the meeting that was supposed

1084
01:18:25,822 --> 01:18:27,322
to be on that Monday.

1085
01:18:27,322 --> 01:18:30,476
That's all I got to say.

1086
01:18:30,476 --> 01:18:36,224
I will bring it in as proof and I can email it to you.

1087
01:18:36,224 --> 01:18:37,588
Seeing is believing.

1088
01:18:37,588 --> 01:18:38,768
That is it.

1089
01:18:38,768 --> 01:18:40,768
Any questions?

1090
01:18:43,682 --> 01:18:48,946
Mayor Lux: To Mr. Havel's point, I've had people send me stuff

1091
01:18:48,946 --> 01:18:50,756
that I've gotten well over a week later.

1092
01:18:50,756 --> 01:18:53,650
It could be the post office.

1093
01:18:53,650 --> 01:18:55,650
That can happen.

1094
01:18:57,762 --> 01:19:01,962
The other thing I'm talking about --

1095
01:19:02,790 --> 01:19:08,572
which he brought up and I have highlighted -- is, Rachel,

1096
01:19:08,572 --> 01:19:11,112
we should have workshops for people to understand what that

1097
01:19:11,112 --> 01:19:13,112
is.

1098
01:19:13,602 --> 01:19:17,502
We could have people sign up so whoever

1099
01:19:17,502 --> 01:19:20,790
doesn't respond can be reached out to

1100
01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:22,562
to make sure that they understand

1101
01:19:22,562 --> 01:19:25,482
that they can opt out.

1102
01:19:25,482 --> 01:19:30,282
I don't know if that's a good idea.

1103
01:19:36,854 --> 01:19:39,562
>> That is completely reasonable and we will get those scheduled.

1104
01:19:39,562 --> 01:19:43,762
Mayor Lux: Anyone else for public input?

1105
01:19:44,299 --> 01:19:49,990
I'm not sure if you got your time

1106
01:19:49,268 --> 01:19:53,451
because we didn't hit the timer and you have three minutes.

1107
01:19:53,451 --> 01:19:56,451
Three minutes is maximum time.

1108
01:19:58,602 --> 01:20:01,882
Community Member: I cannot talk about the historic district?

1109
01:20:01,882 --> 01:20:07,962
Mayor Lux: Is it okay for him to talk about historic district?

1110
01:20:07,962 --> 01:20:11,672
Community Member: Jeanine Polk came to the realtors Association

1111
01:20:11,672 --> 01:20:13,672
two Fridays ago.

1112
01:20:15,122 --> 01:20:20,754
We want the city to turn around and be beautified.

1113
01:20:20,754 --> 01:20:23,784
We want people to buy old houses and fix them up.

1114
01:20:23,784 --> 01:20:25,850
We are not against that.

1115
01:20:25,850 --> 01:20:29,450
These are not selling like hotcakes.

1116
01:20:31,722 --> 01:20:37,562
I told Mr. Perry that I did not dislike him.

1117
01:20:37,562 --> 01:20:41,762
How was he on the historic board?

1118
01:20:42,502 --> 01:20:46,702
How many people on town have sold

1119
01:20:48,322 --> 01:20:50,790
come a list have come or had a buyer buy

1120
01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:53,973
these in the last three years?

1121
01:20:53,973 --> 01:20:55,452
He couldn't name one.

1122
01:20:55,452 --> 01:20:58,222
It is hard to buy a house and fix it up financially.

1123
01:20:58,222 --> 01:21:02,220
It doesn't make sense from a financial standpoint.

1124
01:21:02,220 --> 01:21:05,682
The insurance to cover these houses is drastically high.

1125
01:21:05,682 --> 01:21:08,742
My insurance from frontline is $1,200 a year.

1126
01:21:08,742 --> 01:21:13,682
The quote from across the street was $7,100 a year.

1127
01:21:13,682 --> 01:21:20,882
If you got it for $6,000, you still have to have flood --

1128
01:21:26,463 --> 01:21:27,921
Mayor Lux: I accidentally did that.

1129
01:21:27,921 --> 01:21:29,921
Go ahead, sir.

1130
01:21:31,482 --> 01:21:33,882
Community Member: People love the homes

1131
01:21:33,882 --> 01:21:34,882
but they are not moving.

1132
01:21:34,882 --> 01:21:38,220
People are making judicious financial decisions

1133
01:21:38,220 --> 01:21:40,714
and it doesn't make sense to buy them.

1134
01:21:40,714 --> 01:21:44,470
I have friends fixing up a house on palm

1135
01:21:44,470 --> 01:21:45,977
and they did a wonderful job.

1136
01:21:45,977 --> 01:21:47,111
It is beautiful.

1137
01:21:47,111 --> 01:21:53,711
He's having so many problems and now everything is so expensive.

1138
01:21:54,482 --> 01:21:57,482
The people who own the properties are stuck if they

1139
01:21:57,482 --> 01:21:59,124
cannot sell the houses.

1140
01:21:59,124 --> 01:22:02,450
Some of these houses are put in the middle of the lot.

1141
01:22:02,450 --> 01:22:08,150
You cannot build a garage because of where it was put

1142
01:22:08,150 --> 01:22:09,144
in 1950.

1143
01:22:09,144 --> 01:22:10,722
Let people make a choice.

1144
01:22:10,722 --> 01:22:13,610
You guys are saying that you cannot make a choice.

1145
01:22:13,610 --> 01:22:16,635
People are stuck with the homes and it is way too expensive

1146
01:22:16,635 --> 01:22:20,874
to fix them up, because you will not get your money back.

1147
01:22:20,874 --> 01:22:24,474
Miss Jeanine, you bulldozed your house.

1148
01:22:24,626 --> 01:22:28,680
Your actions speak louder than words your house was nicer

1149
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:29,363
than the house I bought.

1150
01:22:29,363 --> 01:22:30,812
It was beautiful.

1151
01:22:30,812 --> 01:22:34,412
Your likable your age was 1972, even

1152
01:22:34,646 --> 01:22:37,646
though it was built in 1935.

1153
01:22:38,802 --> 01:22:41,424
Mayor Lux: You are going off subject.

1154
01:22:41,424 --> 01:22:43,424
Thank you.

1155
01:22:44,562 --> 01:22:48,882
Community Member: I just wanted to let you know.

1156
01:22:48,882 --> 01:22:51,882
Community Member: Derrick Rooney, resident.

1157
01:22:53,531 --> 01:22:57,131
This issue isn't the city's fault.

1158
01:22:57,186 --> 01:23:00,442
I serve as city attorney in several cities.

1159
01:23:00,442 --> 01:23:04,522
We are also trying to address historic preservation issues

1160
01:23:04,522 --> 01:23:06,802
because of the flood question.

1161
01:23:06,802 --> 01:23:10,402
You are exempt from the 50% rule.

1162
01:23:10,842 --> 01:23:13,336
I don't have a simple answer for Steve.

1163
01:23:13,336 --> 01:23:18,242
I had to pull back one of my own ordinances for the same reason.

1164
01:23:18,242 --> 01:23:22,422
Legislature passed Senate Bill 180 in place, ironically,

1165
01:23:22,422 --> 01:23:27,822
for the reason of helping property owners in storms.

1166
01:23:32,442 --> 01:23:35,442
The solution is that --

1167
01:23:58,626 --> 01:24:03,322
Senate bill 180 says that the city cannot impose burdensome

1168
01:24:03,322 --> 01:24:05,322
provisions.

1169
01:24:10,922 --> 01:24:14,215
This is something that needs to be addressed.

1170
01:24:14,215 --> 01:24:16,948
This is holding up a lot of properties that people

1171
01:24:16,948 --> 01:24:18,782
don't want to tear down?

1172
01:24:18,782 --> 01:24:24,682
At some point you have to live where you have to live

1173
01:24:24,682 --> 01:24:27,820
and you have to make a decision about what to do.

1174
01:24:27,820 --> 01:24:29,820
Thank you.

1175
01:24:36,795 --> 01:24:39,420
Mayor Lux: Press the button.

1176
01:24:39,420 --> 01:24:41,242
Community Member: Mike Polk.

1177
01:24:41,242 --> 01:24:44,122
We didn't have a choice but to tear our house down.

1178
01:24:44,122 --> 01:24:47,422
We had to tear both of them down.

1179
01:24:47,422 --> 01:24:49,267
We were at 50%.

1180
01:24:49,267 --> 01:24:53,162
We did not have a historic designation.

1181
01:24:53,162 --> 01:24:55,562
That was our choice.

1182
01:24:55,796 --> 01:24:59,640
The city wouldn't let us do anything but that.

1183
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,186
I did not try to bring subcontractors in at night

1184
01:25:03,186 --> 01:25:05,162
or on the weekend.

1185
01:25:05,162 --> 01:25:06,895
I did it legally.

1186
01:25:06,895 --> 01:25:10,372
That is why we tore the house down.

1187
01:25:10,372 --> 01:25:12,746
We had no choice.

1188
01:25:12,746 --> 01:25:14,642
We exceeded the 50% rule.

1189
01:25:14,642 --> 01:25:16,642
Thank you.

1190
01:25:24,387 --> 01:25:25,762
Mayor Lux: Press the button, Tim.

1191
01:25:25,762 --> 01:25:28,162
Community Member: Tim Ritchie.

1192
01:25:29,362 --> 01:25:34,762
We want to keep our historic district looking historic.

1193
01:25:39,842 --> 01:25:45,330
I have been up here more than all of you

1194
01:25:45,330 --> 01:25:47,730
put together for years.

1195
01:25:49,449 --> 01:25:55,135
I won't sit here and let anyone come up here

1196
01:25:55,135 --> 01:25:58,735
and project them as being bad.

1197
01:25:59,322 --> 01:26:03,882
The four of them sitting up here today

1198
01:26:03,882 --> 01:26:08,682
are the best city council we've ever had!

1199
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:13,202
Exactly the four members here today present

1200
01:26:14,218 --> 01:26:17,818
are the best we've ever had!

1201
01:26:20,522 --> 01:26:23,242
If anyone wants to argue with me,

1202
01:26:23,242 --> 01:26:29,842
I will be out in the parking lot after the meeting.

1203
01:26:36,670 --> 01:26:38,670
Mayor Lux: Tim.

1204
01:26:38,420 --> 01:26:40,212
Community Member: No mayor.

1205
01:26:40,212 --> 01:26:41,148
Good mayor.

1206
01:26:41,148 --> 01:26:45,322
If Mr. Polk said these have to get torn down

1207
01:26:45,322 --> 01:26:46,970
because they are past the 50% point,

1208
01:26:46,970 --> 01:26:48,722
that's what has to happen.

1209
01:26:48,722 --> 01:26:53,200
I'm sure there building close to the historic district

1210
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,200
if necessary.

1211
01:26:55,820 --> 01:27:02,322
I'm tired of people taking a tack at my mayor and vice mayor.

1212
01:27:02,322 --> 01:27:06,362
I'm not going to tolerate it for one minute!

1213
01:27:06,362 --> 01:27:11,162
I helped get rid of the previous attorney.

1214
01:27:13,482 --> 01:27:20,682
We got rid of the previous city manager because he wasn't good!

1215
01:27:24,242 --> 01:27:26,922
I'm not going to hear that!

1216
01:27:26,922 --> 01:27:28,922
Thank you.

1217
01:27:32,522 --> 01:27:36,722
Mayor Lux: Anyone else for public input?

1218
01:27:37,202 --> 01:27:39,202
Motion.

1219
01:27:50,683 --> 01:27:51,970
>> Are we tabling this?

1220
01:27:51,970 --> 01:27:55,570
What do you suggest, Mr. Leskovich?

1221
01:28:01,991 --> 01:28:03,449
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney:

1222
01:28:03,449 --> 01:28:05,699
You can approve it and move it or my suggestion is you

1223
01:28:05,699 --> 01:28:08,468
table it for staff and myself to get together.

1224
01:28:08,468 --> 01:28:11,808
I will take Mr. Rooney up on his suggestion

1225
01:28:11,808 --> 01:28:15,442
and try to get this back to you guys as quickly as possible

1226
01:28:15,442 --> 01:28:22,308
to see if there's a way we can get around Senate Bill 180

1227
01:28:22,308 --> 01:28:24,308
and Senate Bill 250.

1228
01:28:25,295 --> 01:28:29,495
I suggest you table it for today.

1229
01:28:31,962 --> 01:28:35,452
Mayor Lux: Other things we would like to give guidelines around

1230
01:28:35,452 --> 01:28:37,452
to expedite this?

1231
01:28:38,290 --> 01:28:44,290
We are trying to expedite the poor residents stuck here

1232
01:28:45,173 --> 01:28:50,732
in this 50-50 as to whether they can take it down or not.

1233
01:28:50,732 --> 01:28:54,382
I would like to say if it's okay with SB 180

1234
01:28:54,382 --> 01:28:56,586
if we can expedite it.

1235
01:28:56,586 --> 01:29:01,386
Are you saying we should completely table it?

1236
01:29:02,405 --> 01:29:03,863
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney:

1237
01:29:03,863 --> 01:29:05,314
I would suggest to table it today.

1238
01:29:05,314 --> 01:29:08,362
We can change the name of the board.

1239
01:29:08,362 --> 01:29:09,882
That's not an issue.

1240
01:29:09,882 --> 01:29:11,730
When you are changing the process

1241
01:29:11,730 --> 01:29:14,922
of how the demolition works and whether you are or are not

1242
01:29:14,922 --> 01:29:22,122
included on the list, that has to be detailed a little more.

1243
01:29:22,362 --> 01:29:26,455
Mayor Lux: You are saying that today we can change the name

1244
01:29:26,455 --> 01:29:30,660
of the board and having workshops is fine but we should

1245
01:29:30,660 --> 01:29:36,666
table a decision came -- but we should table a decision?

1246
01:29:40,620 --> 01:29:43,742
>> I want to note real quick that we should close the public

1247
01:29:43,742 --> 01:29:45,742
hearing.

1248
01:29:46,482 --> 01:29:48,923
Mayor Lux: Okay, we have a motion

1249
01:29:48,923 --> 01:29:51,923
to close the public hearing.

1250
01:29:53,322 --> 01:29:57,322
Member Denton: Move to close the public hearing.

1251
01:29:57,322 --> 01:30:00,971
Mayor Lux: All in favor raise your hand.

1252
01:30:00,971 --> 01:30:03,371
Everyone raise their hand.

1253
01:30:04,482 --> 01:30:06,482
None opposed.

1254
01:30:09,463 --> 01:30:11,505
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney: My suggestion

1255
01:30:11,505 --> 01:30:13,202
is to table in its entirety today.

1256
01:30:13,202 --> 01:30:17,842
Let me get with staff and Mr. Rooney and hear the suggestions.

1257
01:30:17,842 --> 01:30:22,420
Staff can certainly have a workshop together

1258
01:30:24,890 --> 01:30:30,402
to try to get this back to you guys as quickly as possible.

1259
01:30:30,402 --> 01:30:37,602
Mayor Lux: Can we get a certain date for the next meeting?

1260
01:30:43,682 --> 01:30:46,820
I want it expedited.

1261
01:30:47,713 --> 01:30:49,963
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney: If it's available,

1262
01:30:49,963 --> 01:30:53,280
September 23rd could be a date and I can get with staff within

1263
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,682
the next week or two for us to get this back on your September

1264
01:30:56,682 --> 01:30:58,200
23rd agenda.

1265
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,200
That is pending staff availability.

1266
01:31:09,539 --> 01:31:13,739
>> Sarah, will this need to be Re-advertised?

1267
01:31:28,682 --> 01:31:31,441
Sara Welch, City Clerk: If we continue to a date certain,

1268
01:31:31,441 --> 01:31:35,410
we wouldn't need to Member Denton:

1269
01:31:37,228 --> 01:31:39,603
I move to table this and reconvene the topic on September

1270
01:31:39,603 --> 01:31:43,203
23rd after consideration of staff, attorney,

1271
01:31:44,862 --> 01:31:46,862
and Derek Rooney.

1272
01:31:52,256 --> 01:31:52,756
>>

1273
01:31:52,756 --> 01:31:53,464
>> I second that.

1274
01:31:53,464 --> 01:31:56,464
Mayor Lux: These are fine.

1275
01:31:57,522 --> 01:32:00,770
Please raise your hand if you're in favor of.

1276
01:32:00,770 --> 01:32:03,582
Motion shows everyone raise their hand.

1277
01:32:03,582 --> 01:32:04,762
Opposed?

1278
01:32:04,762 --> 01:32:06,762
Motion carries.

1279
01:32:09,402 --> 01:32:13,200
Next up our ordinances and resolutions.

1280
01:32:27,502 --> 01:32:28,960
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney:

1281
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:32,898
An ordinance of city of Punta Gorda Florida amending chapter

1282
01:32:32,898 --> 01:32:36,415
three of the Code of Ordinances to revise regulations governing

1283
01:32:36,415 --> 01:32:41,655
the operation of golf carts on city streets and rights of way,

1284
01:32:41,655 --> 01:32:45,255
amending section 23-seven, motorized vehicles prohibited

1285
01:32:47,252 --> 01:32:51,452
on Tidal Creek Bridge, amending section 23-eight .

1286
01:33:09,122 --> 01:33:12,122
This is the second reading.

1287
01:33:19,900 --> 01:33:20,400
>> Hello.

1288
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:21,400
Carl Benj, urban design.

1289
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:26,800
We are here to discuss the golf cart ordinance.

1290
01:33:27,450 --> 01:33:31,542
There was confusion on when it was finally approved.

1291
01:33:31,542 --> 01:33:35,482
We are asking for clarification and discussion.

1292
01:33:35,482 --> 01:33:37,482
>> Good morning.

1293
01:33:37,906 --> 01:33:39,862
Chief Smith.

1294
01:33:39,862 --> 01:33:41,475
I was not here at the last meeting.

1295
01:33:41,475 --> 01:33:44,232
I wanted to get more clarification in reference

1296
01:33:44,232 --> 01:33:49,320
to enforcement if the revised ordinance gets approved.

1297
01:33:50,875 --> 01:33:55,750
In 2019, we went to the City Council

1298
01:33:55,882 --> 01:33:58,202
to ask to allow the golf carts to travel

1299
01:33:58,202 --> 01:34:02,227
over the bridge in reference to Fisherman's Village

1300
01:34:02,227 --> 01:34:05,722
being able to transport things back and forth to the buildings

1301
01:34:05,722 --> 01:34:09,322
over on the west Retta side.

1302
01:34:12,124 --> 01:34:16,426
It has evolved into transporting elderly visitors and the cruise

1303
01:34:16,426 --> 01:34:19,451
ship passengers to the military Heritage Museum.

1304
01:34:19,451 --> 01:34:25,460
If we are going to put the new ordinance in place,

1305
01:34:25,460 --> 01:34:27,610
I want to clarify that no motorized vehicles can

1306
01:34:27,610 --> 01:34:32,260
be on the harbor walk or sidewalk without an ordinance.

1307
01:34:32,260 --> 01:34:35,132
We would have to enforce if they decided

1308
01:34:35,132 --> 01:34:36,442
they needed to transport.

1309
01:34:36,442 --> 01:34:40,148
They would just have them walk or drive around.

1310
01:34:40,148 --> 01:34:43,748
I just wanted to get clarification.

1311
01:34:49,380 --> 01:34:50,797
Mayor Lux: Any questions for them?

1312
01:34:50,797 --> 01:34:52,797
Discussion?

1313
01:34:57,715 --> 01:34:59,215
Member Julian: I would like to allow

1314
01:34:59,215 --> 01:35:06,415
the transit of the golf carts or the elderly back and forth.

1315
01:35:18,786 --> 01:35:20,161
Vice Mayor Polk: I didn't realize

1316
01:35:20,161 --> 01:35:21,911
when they were bringing in the busses they

1317
01:35:21,911 --> 01:35:23,242
were coming across golf carts.

1318
01:35:23,242 --> 01:35:27,876
That concerns me because that means more people were using it

1319
01:35:27,876 --> 01:35:33,832
than was alluded to in the initial agreement or discussion

1320
01:35:33,832 --> 01:35:36,232
from the last meeting.

1321
01:35:37,442 --> 01:35:41,842
It was stated that it was just once in a while.

1322
01:35:41,842 --> 01:35:44,226
We should eventually all agree that something

1323
01:35:44,226 --> 01:35:47,802
will happen at the Military Heritage Museum building

1324
01:35:47,802 --> 01:35:49,890
and it will be more crowded.

1325
01:35:49,890 --> 01:35:51,455
We have to be careful.

1326
01:35:51,455 --> 01:35:55,234
If we are going to allow this to happen,

1327
01:35:55,234 --> 01:35:58,690
there are pedestrians who walk here all the time.

1328
01:35:58,690 --> 01:36:00,890
There are bicyclists and people who

1329
01:36:00,890 --> 01:36:04,858
live here that are trying to get into their driveways.

1330
01:36:04,858 --> 01:36:07,365
I think it is one more thing for the citizens

1331
01:36:07,365 --> 01:36:10,300
to have to have on their shoulders

1332
01:36:10,300 --> 01:36:12,542
if an accident happens they are.

1333
01:36:12,542 --> 01:36:17,942
We have to be cognizant of the health safety

1334
01:36:19,122 --> 01:36:20,532
and welfare of the people.

1335
01:36:20,532 --> 01:36:22,394
I was not aware that the busses were using

1336
01:36:22,394 --> 01:36:25,394
this whenever they needed to.

1337
01:36:25,722 --> 01:36:31,122
Mayor Lux: Another concern we talked about was liability.

1338
01:36:37,625 --> 01:36:39,292
Member Denton: The police have many jobs

1339
01:36:39,292 --> 01:36:42,546
are they supposed to determine who are elderly?

1340
01:36:42,546 --> 01:36:45,942
You look like you are 70 but if you are 55

1341
01:36:45,942 --> 01:36:47,570
then you don't qualify.

1342
01:36:47,570 --> 01:36:49,402
How does that work?

1343
01:36:49,402 --> 01:36:53,242
>> We don't question whether they have someone of a certain

1344
01:36:53,242 --> 01:36:55,420
age on their golf cart.

1345
01:36:55,420 --> 01:36:57,647
The ordinance allows the golf cart to go across.

1346
01:36:57,647 --> 01:37:00,652
I don't know how often they transport passengers.

1347
01:37:00,652 --> 01:37:04,578
That was something that was brought up at one point in time.

1348
01:37:04,578 --> 01:37:07,707
They transport people that would like to go over there

1349
01:37:07,707 --> 01:37:10,266
and do not want to walk over there.

1350
01:37:10,266 --> 01:37:13,266
We've never had an issue.

1351
01:37:14,162 --> 01:37:18,842
Fisherman's Village trained their people to stop, make sure

1352
01:37:18,842 --> 01:37:23,358
no one's crossing the bridge, and then they go across.

1353
01:37:23,358 --> 01:37:26,958
I've never even gotten a complaint.

1354
01:37:30,830 --> 01:37:32,330
Mayor Lux: It was an impact building

1355
01:37:32,330 --> 01:37:35,346
and that is why they have less parking.

1356
01:37:35,346 --> 01:37:41,346
I'm not sure if variance with parking should have changed.

1357
01:37:44,802 --> 01:37:50,420
People were living on campus and didn't need additional parking.

1358
01:37:50,420 --> 01:37:54,282
Because this has changed and people haven't done anything

1359
01:37:54,282 --> 01:37:57,346
about parking requirements, we have to do something about that.

1360
01:37:57,346 --> 01:38:00,642
I worry about liability and more people coming over.

1361
01:38:00,642 --> 01:38:07,242
We know that cruise ships are great because it brings tourism

1362
01:38:07,362 --> 01:38:11,282
but that is more a liability with people crossing over.

1363
01:38:11,282 --> 01:38:16,682
We may need a trolley to transport people around.

1364
01:38:17,122 --> 01:38:19,122
Jenny.

1365
01:38:25,985 --> 01:38:28,270
Member Denton: They don't have to use the bridge.

1366
01:38:28,270 --> 01:38:29,653
They can use the roads.

1367
01:38:29,653 --> 01:38:32,653
It is a cute convenience.

1368
01:38:34,642 --> 01:38:36,642
Mayor Lux: Motion?

1369
01:38:45,852 --> 01:38:50,322
>> As far as using the roads, golf carts cannot use the road

1370
01:38:50,322 --> 01:38:54,522
unless it is a registered licensed vehicle.

1371
01:38:57,282 --> 01:39:01,668
My understanding is they are not using the golf

1372
01:39:01,668 --> 01:39:08,868
carts on the roads, which is why they are using the bridge.

1373
01:39:13,949 --> 01:39:16,282
Vice Mayor Polk: I will make a motion to approve the new

1374
01:39:16,282 --> 01:39:18,282
ordinance 4a.

1375
01:39:25,551 --> 01:39:27,510
Mayor Lux: This is a second reading?

1376
01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:27,551
Yes.

1377
01:39:27,551 --> 01:39:30,551
Do I have a second?

1378
01:39:31,802 --> 01:39:34,202
Member Julian: I second.

1379
01:39:36,522 --> 01:39:41,340
Mayor Lux: We have a motion and a second for approval

1380
01:39:41,340 --> 01:39:43,740
of the second reading.

1381
01:39:48,750 --> 01:39:50,475
Steven S. Leskovich, City

1382
01:39:52,900 --> 01:39:54,905
>> I apologize but this wasn't a second reading.

1383
01:39:54,905 --> 01:39:57,128
We would like to classify this as a review

1384
01:39:57,128 --> 01:39:58,755
of the first reading.

1385
01:39:58,755 --> 01:40:01,282
I apologize for not clarifying that.

1386
01:40:01,282 --> 01:40:05,220
Mayor Lux: It needs to come back?

1387
01:40:05,220 --> 01:40:07,220
>> I apologize.

1388
01:40:08,244 --> 01:40:12,415
Mayor Lux: So, we are approving the review of the first reading

1389
01:40:12,415 --> 01:40:15,202
to have a second reading done again?

1390
01:40:15,202 --> 01:40:21,802
>> We listened to the verbiage of the approval and the verbiage

1391
01:40:22,647 --> 01:40:23,457
wasn't correct.

1392
01:40:23,457 --> 01:40:25,555
We are asking for correct verbiage

1393
01:40:25,555 --> 01:40:29,442
to make sure we have everything covered.

1394
01:40:29,442 --> 01:40:35,900
We are doing it to make sure the procedure is done.

1395
01:40:35,900 --> 01:40:37,200
That's why we brought it back.

1396
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:41,202
Mayor Lux: We have approval and second.

1397
01:40:42,333 --> 01:40:44,333
All in favor?

1398
01:40:44,602 --> 01:40:45,152
Opposed?

1399
01:40:45,152 --> 01:40:47,382
Everyone raised their hand.

1400
01:40:47,382 --> 01:40:51,452
This is approved for the second reading.

1401
01:40:51,452 --> 01:40:53,452
Next one?

1402
01:41:06,943 --> 01:41:08,401
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney:

1403
01:41:08,401 --> 01:41:09,458
What you guys were approving was clarifying the first reading

1404
01:41:09,458 --> 01:41:12,354
and then you will come back on a different date for the second

1405
01:41:12,354 --> 01:41:16,554
reading Kapec -- for the second reading?

1406
01:41:24,718 --> 01:41:26,718
Mayor Lux: Correct.

1407
01:41:27,592 --> 01:41:29,500
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney:

1408
01:41:29,500 --> 01:41:31,902
Resolution for B authorizing the city manager

1409
01:41:31,902 --> 01:41:35,108
to accept and execute, and fund the federally funded Hazard

1410
01:41:35,108 --> 01:41:36,842
mitigation Grant program.

1411
01:41:36,842 --> 01:41:41,420
Watershed master plan and the amount of $225,000,

1412
01:41:43,202 --> 01:41:45,895
recognizing a local match of $75,000,

1413
01:41:45,895 --> 01:41:48,895
authorizing the appropriate budget amendments,

1414
01:41:49,682 --> 01:41:54,482
provided for conflicts, and providing an effective date.

1415
01:42:02,836 --> 01:42:04,420
>> Rick, grants coordinator.

1416
01:42:04,420 --> 01:42:09,442
In January, Florida Division of management offered up --

1417
01:42:17,405 --> 01:42:20,872
it was previously closed and we didn't take part in it.

1418
01:42:20,872 --> 01:42:26,434
The county has a part in it and they are going through a process

1419
01:42:26,434 --> 01:42:27,986
that we are not involved in.

1420
01:42:27,986 --> 01:42:31,802
We need a separate one to participate in the CRS program.

1421
01:42:31,802 --> 01:42:36,122
We have a building official here about the CRS program.

1422
01:42:36,122 --> 01:42:40,102
This is the last chance for funding the watershed Master

1423
01:42:40,102 --> 01:42:41,874
plan through FEMA.

1424
01:42:41,874 --> 01:42:47,322
This is our opportunity to move forward with our National Flood

1425
01:42:47,322 --> 01:42:48,282
Insurance program.

1426
01:42:48,282 --> 01:42:51,722
If you have any questions regarding the program

1427
01:42:51,722 --> 01:42:55,178
and importance of it, the official

1428
01:42:55,178 --> 01:42:57,578
can answer those questions.

1429
01:42:59,202 --> 01:43:04,602
Mayor Lux: Do you want to come up, Ron?

1430
01:43:08,522 --> 01:43:10,522
Press it again.

1431
01:43:10,658 --> 01:43:12,658
Got it.

1432
01:43:14,322 --> 01:43:18,522
>> We've been partnering with Charlotte County Public

1433
01:43:19,470 --> 01:43:22,282
it's been an enormous amount of money to get their watershed

1434
01:43:22,282 --> 01:43:23,202
in place.

1435
01:43:23,202 --> 01:43:26,420
They've been generous with us.

1436
01:43:26,420 --> 01:43:28,802
This grant is to help the city pick up

1437
01:43:28,802 --> 01:43:33,236
the portion we specifically need for our portion of it.

1438
01:43:33,236 --> 01:43:35,652
I don't know how much you understand about it,

1439
01:43:35,652 --> 01:43:38,466
but it is a prerequisite that is required

1440
01:43:38,466 --> 01:43:41,610
before you get any CRS credits.

1441
01:43:41,610 --> 01:43:45,642
CRS credits get the city as a whole discount

1442
01:43:45,642 --> 01:43:46,818
on flood insurance.

1443
01:43:46,818 --> 01:43:49,422
We are trying to achieve additional credit

1444
01:43:49,422 --> 01:43:53,647
and trying to get a higher discount on it.

1445
01:43:53,647 --> 01:44:00,537
It is a long process, probably two and a half years to finish.

1446
01:44:00,537 --> 01:44:03,882
This grant will cover the city's portion needed to finish this

1447
01:44:03,882 --> 01:44:05,882
process .

1448
01:44:13,678 --> 01:44:15,803
Member Julian: This is an essential tool in our kit

1449
01:44:15,803 --> 01:44:19,122
and we should proceed with it.

1450
01:44:19,122 --> 01:44:22,750
Vice Mayor Polk: I am in agreement

1451
01:44:22,750 --> 01:44:23,330
with Councilman Julian.

1452
01:44:23,330 --> 01:44:27,272
The packet said another 5% reduction if we get this.

1453
01:44:27,272 --> 01:44:30,272
Everyone is excited about that.

1454
01:44:30,474 --> 01:44:34,674
I will approve this today for sure.

1455
01:44:34,962 --> 01:44:39,160
Mayor Lux: Do you want to make a motion?

1456
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:45,160
Vice Mayor Polk: I make a motion to approve 4B.

1457
01:44:49,489 --> 01:44:50,947
Member Denton: I second the motion.

1458
01:44:50,947 --> 01:44:55,324
Mayor Lux: Motion and second on the floor.

1459
01:44:55,324 --> 01:44:58,470
Raise your hand if in favor.

1460
01:44:58,470 --> 01:45:01,647
All of us raised our hands.

1461
01:45:01,942 --> 01:45:02,632
Opposed?

1462
01:45:02,632 --> 01:45:04,632
Motion carries.

1463
01:45:13,556 --> 01:45:13,565
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney: Agenda item four C,

1464
01:45:13,565 --> 01:45:16,122
allowance a major to accept, execute,

1465
01:45:16,122 --> 01:45:19,742
administer 2024 community forest D capacity grants contract with

1466
01:45:19,742 --> 01:45:22,802
the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer

1467
01:45:22,802 --> 01:45:24,802
Services .

1468
01:45:26,914 --> 01:45:29,314
FDAC, number 3407892 plant 100 native,

1469
01:45:32,242 --> 01:45:35,882
wind and salt tolerant trees and restore the tree canopy

1470
01:45:35,882 --> 01:45:40,682
in the amount of $48,617, recognizing a local match

1471
01:45:41,722 --> 01:45:45,322
of $5,649, authorizing an appropriate budget amendments

1472
01:45:46,335 --> 01:45:51,735
providing for conflicts and providing for an effective date.

1473
01:46:00,346 --> 01:46:01,960
>> Good afternoon.

1474
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:03,496
Rick Lehmkuhle, grants coordinator.

1475
01:46:03,682 --> 01:46:06,350
This is a great opportunity for the city

1476
01:46:06,350 --> 01:46:10,235
to accept funds from FDACS to plant

1477
01:46:11,692 --> 01:46:15,292
and restore 100 trees in our city.

1478
01:46:17,322 --> 01:46:20,922
400 of the dollars comes from community .

1479
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:35,200
Pending any questions.

1480
01:46:38,820 --> 01:46:42,380
Member Denton: Congratulations on your hard work.

1481
01:46:42,380 --> 01:46:47,257
We love free grant money to get our city more beautiful.

1482
01:46:47,257 --> 01:46:48,548
Thank you.

1483
01:46:48,548 --> 01:46:49,802
Good job.

1484
01:46:49,802 --> 01:46:55,202
Vice Mayor Polk: I agree with you, Councilwoman Denton.

1485
01:46:55,601 --> 01:46:59,201
I 100% think we need more trees.

1486
01:46:59,322 --> 01:47:01,455
More oxygen is always good.

1487
01:47:01,455 --> 01:47:05,818
I appreciate that we were allotted this money.

1488
01:47:05,818 --> 01:47:08,682
Can I move to approve?

1489
01:47:08,682 --> 01:47:11,820
Move to approve 4C.

1490
01:47:19,318 --> 01:47:22,318
Member Julian: I second that.

1491
01:47:23,132 --> 01:47:24,922
Mayor Lux: All in favor raise your hand.

1492
01:47:24,922 --> 01:47:27,922
All four hands are raised.

1493
01:47:28,562 --> 01:47:29,912
Opposed?

1494
01:47:29,912 --> 01:47:31,912
Motion carries.

1495
01:47:32,612 --> 01:47:36,212
Thank you for your hard work.

1496
01:47:37,207 --> 01:47:39,332
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney: Agenda item 4D,

1497
01:47:39,332 --> 01:47:43,122
resolution of the City Council of the City of Punta Gorda,

1498
01:47:43,122 --> 01:47:45,642
Florida, approving amended bylaws governing

1499
01:47:45,642 --> 01:47:48,242
the requirements of the Building Board,

1500
01:47:48,242 --> 01:47:50,642
providing an effective date.

1501
01:47:57,831 --> 01:47:59,248
Sara Welch, City Clerk: Sir Welch.

1502
01:47:59,248 --> 01:48:04,242
This was to amend bylaws to remove the lifetime provision

1503
01:48:04,242 --> 01:48:07,626
for consumer advocates and provide an alternate for one

1504
01:48:07,626 --> 01:48:13,260
to be designated as a contractor in another --

1505
01:48:14,990 --> 01:48:20,221
William -- to sit on the board later this meeting come up with

1506
01:48:20,221 --> 01:48:24,421
Kathy being considered alternate for a contractor.

1507
01:48:25,722 --> 01:48:28,507
Mayor Lux: I could not see when you press a button.

1508
01:48:28,507 --> 01:48:30,438
I apologize for that.

1509
01:48:30,438 --> 01:48:32,838
Any questions for Sarah?

1510
01:48:34,412 --> 01:48:36,412
Motion?

1511
01:48:38,322 --> 01:48:42,522
>> I make a motion to approve 4D.

1512
01:48:46,461 --> 01:48:49,461
Member Julian: I second that.

1513
01:48:50,348 --> 01:48:53,348
Mayor Lux: The motion carries.

1514
01:48:57,762 --> 01:49:00,762
Next is the consent agenda.

1515
01:49:01,362 --> 01:49:04,362
Does anyone want anything pulled?

1516
01:49:05,682 --> 01:49:12,282
Doctor Misty, were you going to talk about urban design consent

1517
01:49:12,788 --> 01:49:16,935
or did you want to do that in projects?

1518
01:49:16,935 --> 01:49:21,820
In agenda we talked about impervious and urban design

1519
01:49:21,820 --> 01:49:22,770
because they only do it once a month.

1520
01:49:22,770 --> 01:49:25,682
Do you want to talk about that in projects?

1521
01:49:25,682 --> 01:49:31,820
I need motion for approval for the consent agenda.

1522
01:49:33,402 --> 01:49:40,602
Vice Mayor Polk: No one is here to speak on five a?

1523
01:49:41,610 --> 01:49:42,902
Someone is here to speak on it.

1524
01:49:42,902 --> 01:49:49,502
I would hate to approve it and him not discuss it.

1525
01:49:53,692 --> 01:49:55,670
Mayor Lux: Any questions for him?

1526
01:49:55,670 --> 01:50:02,267
Vice Mayor Polk: No Mayor Lux: That was a quest for --

1527
01:50:03,156 --> 01:50:09,402
that was a request for a motion to approve consent agenda?

1528
01:50:09,402 --> 01:50:13,642
Vice Mayor Polk: I moved to approve consent agenda.

1529
01:50:13,642 --> 01:50:18,105
Mayor Lux: We have a motion and second

1530
01:50:18,105 --> 01:50:20,490
to approve the consent agenda in full.

1531
01:50:20,490 --> 01:50:22,428
Raise your hand if in favor.

1532
01:50:22,428 --> 01:50:24,578
All four raised our hands.

1533
01:50:24,578 --> 01:50:26,978
All opposed motion carries.

1534
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:30,615
Does anyone want a break or continue on?

1535
01:50:30,615 --> 01:50:36,150
We will take a quick ten minute break please.

1536
01:50:48,230 --> 01:50:50,230
[council on break]

1537
02:01:12,734 --> 02:01:14,939
Mayor Lux: We will get started again.

1538
02:01:14,939 --> 02:01:16,939
Please sit down.

1539
02:01:41,421 --> 02:01:42,879
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney:

1540
02:01:42,879 --> 02:01:48,879
We will move to the regular agenda 6a agreement Award

1541
02:01:51,619 --> 02:01:56,419
to architects design group, incorporated, of winter Park,

1542
02:01:56,795 --> 02:01:59,224
Florida for a master agreement to provide assessment

1543
02:01:59,224 --> 02:02:04,203
and planning for the city's public safety complex at 1410

1544
02:02:04,203 --> 02:02:06,603
Tamiami Trail, Punta Gorda.

1545
02:02:09,579 --> 02:02:13,779
>> Request for qualifications for engineering and architecture

1546
02:02:14,179 --> 02:02:17,712
services for the Public Safety expansion project.

1547
02:02:17,712 --> 02:02:23,112
Solicitation was issued to 700 vendors in the city received

1548
02:02:25,679 --> 02:02:29,379
three responses from teams of consultants and architects.

1549
02:02:29,379 --> 02:02:33,459
This was also posted on another procurement system advertising

1550
02:02:33,459 --> 02:02:34,939
the bid.

1551
02:02:34,939 --> 02:02:36,929
This will be the master agreement

1552
02:02:36,929 --> 02:02:39,179
that contains hourly rates in order

1553
02:02:39,179 --> 02:02:42,579
to negotiate authorizations for a phased approach

1554
02:02:42,579 --> 02:02:44,259
for the project.

1555
02:02:44,259 --> 02:02:46,929
Future authorizations will be approved

1556
02:02:46,929 --> 02:02:49,929
by the appropriate award authority.

1557
02:02:50,279 --> 02:02:54,479
The proposal packages were evaluated by committee,

1558
02:02:55,312 --> 02:02:57,312
which ranked proposals.

1559
02:02:57,589 --> 02:03:01,849
Then we entered into interviews conducted with consultants

1560
02:03:01,849 --> 02:03:03,459
and their teams.

1561
02:03:03,459 --> 02:03:07,189
The top ranked firm designated by the committee

1562
02:03:07,189 --> 02:03:11,989
was architects design group of Winter Park, Florida.

1563
02:03:12,749 --> 02:03:15,149
We entered into negotiations.

1564
02:03:15,819 --> 02:03:18,312
This project was previously approved by the voters

1565
02:03:18,312 --> 02:03:22,512
to be funded by the 1% sales tax.

1566
02:03:23,259 --> 02:03:25,969
We have the consultant from architects

1567
02:03:25,969 --> 02:03:28,885
design Group to speak to council if you

1568
02:03:28,885 --> 02:03:31,129
have any questions regarding the project.

1569
02:03:31,129 --> 02:03:36,529
Staff recommends a word of the agreement to architects

1570
02:03:37,319 --> 02:03:40,919
design Group of Winter Park, Florida,

1571
02:03:41,267 --> 02:03:45,659
of being the most responsible and qualified bidder.

1572
02:03:45,659 --> 02:03:48,590
Mayor Lux: Any questions?

1573
02:03:53,215 --> 02:04:00,415
Member Denton: What is the cost to this point to hire them?

1574
02:04:16,223 --> 02:04:19,595
>> There is no cost to the master agreement.

1575
02:04:19,595 --> 02:04:24,129
It puts the agreement in place with hourly rates

1576
02:04:24,129 --> 02:04:28,235
for different positions to move forward to the phasing approach.

1577
02:04:28,235 --> 02:04:32,347
The first phase will be the next agreement, amendment one,

1578
02:04:32,347 --> 02:04:34,747
which is the assessment.

1579
02:04:36,339 --> 02:04:38,819
Member Denton: Follow up question.

1580
02:04:38,819 --> 02:04:45,419
We have a lot in question right now with 1% sales tax ,

1581
02:04:47,799 --> 02:04:53,199
and we also have the possible property tax reduction.

1582
02:04:55,739 --> 02:05:00,776
It's a lot to ask of these folks if we don't have the money

1583
02:05:00,776 --> 02:05:02,776
to move ahead.

1584
02:05:02,809 --> 02:05:05,779
I don't know if we should postpone.

1585
02:05:05,779 --> 02:05:08,459
You've done a lot of work in these people are probably great.

1586
02:05:08,459 --> 02:05:13,259
But will we be able to follow through?

1587
02:05:20,527 --> 02:05:27,127
>> Going into it, we knew grant funding would be an integral

1588
02:05:27,779 --> 02:05:30,152
part to making this project successful.

1589
02:05:30,152 --> 02:05:34,952
It went out to bid one time previously.

1590
02:05:36,129 --> 02:05:40,523
We canceled the bid because we saw there were

1591
02:05:40,523 --> 02:05:43,259
items lacking in the scope.

1592
02:05:43,259 --> 02:05:49,859
We added grant funding to be part of the consultants team.

1593
02:05:50,499 --> 02:05:53,859
Amendment number one brings them in from the beginning

1594
02:05:53,859 --> 02:05:56,523
during the assessment of the building

1595
02:05:56,523 --> 02:06:00,123
to start looking at grant funding.

1596
02:06:09,703 --> 02:06:12,103
>> Kristen Simeon, finance director.

1597
02:06:13,195 --> 02:06:17,850
I wanted to speak to the funding.

1598
02:06:17,850 --> 02:06:21,750
This is 1% sales tax that also incorporates public safety

1599
02:06:21,750 --> 02:06:23,859
impact fees for the project.

1600
02:06:23,859 --> 02:06:26,859
The needs assessment was determined

1601
02:06:27,669 --> 02:06:30,483
that to be done first to determine what

1602
02:06:30,483 --> 02:06:32,387
the project will actually be.

1603
02:06:32,387 --> 02:06:37,787
So, depending what is determined about expanding the facility

1604
02:06:38,427 --> 02:06:41,659
or buying land and having a facility somewhere else,

1605
02:06:41,659 --> 02:06:46,659
that would determine what the full project would be.

1606
02:06:46,659 --> 02:06:50,859
Also, it would involve looking for grants.

1607
02:06:59,815 --> 02:07:05,169
Vice Mayor Polk: Where are the numbers being projected from?

1608
02:07:05,169 --> 02:07:07,419
It said somewhere that there was a need for a 100 zero

1609
02:07:07,419 --> 02:07:08,325
square feet?

1610
02:07:08,325 --> 02:07:14,325
There is a need because the public safety building is

1611
02:07:16,190 --> 02:07:22,190
currently crowded. -- there was a statement that there was

1612
02:07:26,232 --> 02:07:28,632
a need for 100,000ft².

1613
02:07:31,979 --> 02:07:36,779
It is currently 23,000 and the other area is 18,000?

1614
02:07:39,832 --> 02:07:42,232
They are projecting 100,000ft².

1615
02:07:46,190 --> 02:07:50,219
That is a lot of square footage.

1616
02:07:51,663 --> 02:07:54,663
>> Chief of the police department.

1617
02:07:56,205 --> 02:08:00,405
That number was not the correct number.

1618
02:08:00,459 --> 02:08:05,679
We have the person that bid on the group here.

1619
02:08:05,679 --> 02:08:10,270
I think they mentioned that it should be around 60,000ft².

1620
02:08:10,270 --> 02:08:14,590
I will let them answer the question.

1621
02:08:14,590 --> 02:08:15,919
>> Hi.

1622
02:08:15,919 --> 02:08:18,319
Rodney McManus with ADG.

1623
02:08:21,965 --> 02:08:28,565
There's a process we go through to determine the square footage

1624
02:08:30,110 --> 02:08:33,590
needed based on the programs the chief wants

1625
02:08:33,590 --> 02:08:34,899
to run out of the department.

1626
02:08:34,899 --> 02:08:38,499
The number could flex either way.

1627
02:08:40,419 --> 02:08:47,190
We think 110,000ft² is larger than it ultimately needs to be.

1628
02:08:57,871 --> 02:09:02,710
Vice Mayor Polk: That answers my question.

1629
02:09:03,590 --> 02:09:06,659
I agree wholeheartedly with Mr. Fritz.

1630
02:09:07,605 --> 02:09:10,605
We will spend this money.

1631
02:09:11,275 --> 02:09:14,683
I know these are preliminary plans.

1632
02:09:14,683 --> 02:09:18,892
This is the first we've heard of it.

1633
02:09:18,892 --> 02:09:23,276
In another 10 to 12 weeks there will be two things on the ballot

1634
02:09:23,276 --> 02:09:29,790
-- one of them is the 20 year 1% sales tax that may or may not

1635
02:09:29,790 --> 02:09:29,579
pass.

1636
02:09:29,579 --> 02:09:33,500
If we are depending on these tax dollars,

1637
02:09:33,500 --> 02:09:39,500
I'm a little weary of making this choice right now.

1638
02:09:40,899 --> 02:09:44,427
The other one is the tax reform bill.

1639
02:09:44,427 --> 02:09:46,427
That may pass.

1640
02:09:49,179 --> 02:09:53,192
This may be a different story nine weeks from now

1641
02:09:53,192 --> 02:09:56,250
and I wonder if we should wait.

1642
02:09:56,250 --> 02:10:00,225
I know they hate to hear that.

1643
02:10:01,779 --> 02:10:07,779
We might need to wait before we take a dive.

1644
02:10:11,437 --> 02:10:12,812
Member Julian: What would waiting

1645
02:10:12,812 --> 02:10:16,412
that long due to the project?

1646
02:10:19,743 --> 02:10:22,743
Mayor Lux: Go ahead, Anne.

1647
02:10:23,272 --> 02:10:26,872
>> I will let Mr. McNamara --

1648
02:10:28,185 --> 02:10:31,785
I will let Mr. McManus speak.

1649
02:10:34,278 --> 02:10:39,138
>> It takes 4 to 6 months to determine the scope of the work.

1650
02:10:39,138 --> 02:10:44,699
Regardless of whether it moves forward or at what speed

1651
02:10:44,699 --> 02:10:47,720
it does so, the preliminary work needs

1652
02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:49,619
to be completed for us to understand

1653
02:10:49,619 --> 02:10:52,769
what the scope of work needs to be in the future.

1654
02:10:52,769 --> 02:10:56,369
This is preliminary step one that

1655
02:10:57,379 --> 02:11:00,420
leads to phase number two, which is the actual design

1656
02:11:00,420 --> 02:11:01,775
of the building.

1657
02:11:01,775 --> 02:11:05,375
This first part under the amendment

1658
02:11:09,419 --> 02:11:15,419
has to do with determining the scope of the project.

1659
02:11:15,547 --> 02:11:17,919
It doesn't have to do with the actual construction

1660
02:11:17,919 --> 02:11:19,900
of the building.

1661
02:11:19,900 --> 02:11:22,792
It determines what needs to be done.

1662
02:11:22,792 --> 02:11:28,192
I would suggest that the 6 or 8 weeks doesn't change

1663
02:11:30,259 --> 02:11:34,539
what needs to be done for the next 50 years

1664
02:11:34,539 --> 02:11:38,459
but this is the duration of the project they want to plan for

1665
02:11:38,459 --> 02:11:42,659
and what the chief talked about project.

1666
02:11:44,514 --> 02:11:46,548
Mayor Lux: I agree.

1667
02:11:46,548 --> 02:11:51,348
What we are looking at is twofold --

1668
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:54,995
can the current building be expanded?

1669
02:11:54,995 --> 02:11:58,403
May be adding a second story?

1670
02:11:58,403 --> 02:12:02,190
We need to expand this to fit everyone.

1671
02:12:02,190 --> 02:12:04,471
This may be the best way to do it

1672
02:12:04,471 --> 02:12:09,939
because otherwise, we may have to find a land somewhere

1673
02:12:09,939 --> 02:12:14,712
and build a new building permit we are still going to have to do

1674
02:12:14,712 --> 02:12:17,112
something for this department.

1675
02:12:18,218 --> 02:12:24,818
I would like someone to have a motion to approve this.

1676
02:12:31,186 --> 02:12:33,769
>> I wanted to comment that this was a voter approved project.

1677
02:12:33,769 --> 02:12:35,602
We have community backing?

1678
02:12:35,602 --> 02:12:37,803
It is a phased approach.

1679
02:12:37,803 --> 02:12:41,990
We are taking the first step to move forward

1680
02:12:41,990 --> 02:12:46,218
with what we need for public safety into the future.

1681
02:12:46,218 --> 02:12:48,618
Mayor Lux: Other comments?

1682
02:12:56,271 --> 02:13:01,671
Member Julian: I move to approve the agenda item.

1683
02:13:05,871 --> 02:13:08,579
Member Denton: Based on the fact that it doesn't cost us anything

1684
02:13:08,579 --> 02:13:12,990
at this point, I second that.

1685
02:13:12,990 --> 02:13:15,979
Mayor Lux: We have a motion and a second.

1686
02:13:15,979 --> 02:13:17,739
All in favor?

1687
02:13:17,739 --> 02:13:21,312
All four of us raised our hands.

1688
02:13:21,312 --> 02:13:22,805
Opposed?

1689
02:13:22,805 --> 02:13:24,805
Motion carries.

1690
02:13:39,734 --> 02:13:41,484
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney: Six b,

1691
02:13:41,484 --> 02:13:45,819
a word of amendment number one to architect design

1692
02:13:45,819 --> 02:13:50,619
group of Winter Park Florida, for professional services

1693
02:13:50,672 --> 02:13:54,272
to assess the public safety facility.

1694
02:13:55,379 --> 02:13:57,379
>> Again, an Hyman.

1695
02:13:58,547 --> 02:14:01,179
City Council previously awarded the master agreement

1696
02:14:01,179 --> 02:14:03,965
to architects design Group to provide professional services

1697
02:14:03,965 --> 02:14:09,889
to assess and plan for the needs of the public police

1698
02:14:09,889 --> 02:14:13,590
department and Fire Department as it relates to the Public

1699
02:14:13,590 --> 02:14:14,299
Safety Facility.

1700
02:14:14,299 --> 02:14:16,444
The agreement contained hourly rates

1701
02:14:16,444 --> 02:14:19,691
to negotiate future phases of the project.

1702
02:14:19,691 --> 02:14:22,152
Staff requested a proposal based on the rates

1703
02:14:22,152 --> 02:14:25,190
and to assess the current needs of the Police Department

1704
02:14:25,190 --> 02:14:26,979
and fire Department.

1705
02:14:26,979 --> 02:14:29,511
The consultant will perform an assessment

1706
02:14:29,511 --> 02:14:31,359
of the current facility to determine

1707
02:14:31,359 --> 02:14:35,767
if improvements can be made or if an additional site may

1708
02:14:35,767 --> 02:14:36,895
be necessary.

1709
02:14:36,895 --> 02:14:39,439
The consultant will provide a report of findings

1710
02:14:39,439 --> 02:14:43,467
to the City Council, along with a concept plan

1711
02:14:43,467 --> 02:14:45,339
and opinion of cost.

1712
02:14:45,339 --> 02:14:48,939
Total cost of the authorization is $335,042.

1713
02:14:48,959 --> 02:14:53,159
Timeline to complete this is eight months

1714
02:14:53,712 --> 02:14:55,363
from the notice to proceed.

1715
02:14:55,363 --> 02:14:59,563
Staff is awarding of amendment number one

1716
02:15:01,411 --> 02:15:03,739
to Architect design Group.

1717
02:15:03,739 --> 02:15:06,139
Mayor Lux: Any discussion?

1718
02:15:10,619 --> 02:15:15,121
Us in government believes this is a lot of money

1719
02:15:15,121 --> 02:15:19,399
but is probably very accurate for what is needed.

1720
02:15:19,399 --> 02:15:22,955
Going off the last conversation, we

1721
02:15:22,955 --> 02:15:25,464
need to figure out what we can do

1722
02:15:25,464 --> 02:15:31,464
to make this building workable to expand in the future.

1723
02:15:35,859 --> 02:15:40,590
Do you want to say anything, sir?

1724
02:15:42,659 --> 02:15:46,453
Vice Mayor Polk: This is task A through K. Task

1725
02:15:46,453 --> 02:15:50,755
B said a staffing study is optional if requested.

1726
02:15:50,755 --> 02:15:54,955
It is not included in the $335,000 cost.

1727
02:15:55,112 --> 02:15:57,467
Can you explain that?

1728
02:15:57,467 --> 02:16:01,670
What would a staffing study entail?

1729
02:16:03,219 --> 02:16:07,419
>> In the actual amendment in the exhibits,

1730
02:16:07,619 --> 02:16:10,119
there were three different levels of staffing studies.

1731
02:16:10,119 --> 02:16:13,731
The first level determines the number of staff based

1732
02:16:13,731 --> 02:16:17,931
on emergency calls and things like that ,

1733
02:16:19,832 --> 02:16:23,939
with the important input of the chief and the way they run

1734
02:16:23,939 --> 02:16:25,939
their department.

1735
02:16:28,739 --> 02:16:34,739
The staffing study can say how many people have positions.

1736
02:16:37,499 --> 02:16:41,669
A deeper dive on that is how positions work together.

1737
02:16:41,669 --> 02:16:46,590
A deeper dive is pay rates compared to other communities

1738
02:16:46,590 --> 02:16:48,411
and departments in the surrounding area,

1739
02:16:48,411 --> 02:16:54,267
in order to make sure the police want to work there and continue

1740
02:16:54,267 --> 02:16:56,979
to work there, rather than jumping

1741
02:16:56,979 --> 02:16:59,539
to another facility or department

1742
02:16:59,539 --> 02:17:01,939
in a neighboring town.

1743
02:17:02,899 --> 02:17:07,116
It just wasn't determined whether that would be

1744
02:17:07,116 --> 02:17:09,425
a need at the beginning or not.

1745
02:17:09,425 --> 02:17:13,625
If it wasn't, we won't utilize it.

1746
02:17:15,939 --> 02:17:20,870
Mayor Lux: I think Vice Mayor Polk was asking

1747
02:17:20,870 --> 02:17:24,470
if there is an additional cost.

1748
02:17:25,767 --> 02:17:29,779
>> It would be based on the initial information we gather

1749
02:17:29,779 --> 02:17:33,395
talking with the chief and all the departments at the station.

1750
02:17:33,395 --> 02:17:35,395
That would give us the information

1751
02:17:35,395 --> 02:17:39,115
we need to know how much the staffing study would cost

1752
02:17:39,115 --> 02:17:42,371
and then determine the level of staffing study

1753
02:17:42,371 --> 02:17:44,771
to move forward with.

1754
02:17:44,947 --> 02:17:48,547
Presently, it was pretty much agreed

1755
02:17:50,883 --> 02:17:54,459
that the staffing study wouldn't be needed but is in there

1756
02:17:54,459 --> 02:17:56,859
if it comes up.

1757
02:17:59,375 --> 02:18:03,339
Mayor Lux: Is there going to be some point where the county will

1758
02:18:03,339 --> 02:18:05,705
take over our 911 system?

1759
02:18:05,705 --> 02:18:07,559
Are we taking this into consideration?

1760
02:18:07,559 --> 02:18:10,485
We fought hard against this.

1761
02:18:10,485 --> 02:18:16,219
It kills us if this is taken away from us but it may happen.

1762
02:18:16,219 --> 02:18:19,819
>> That is beyond our pay grade.

1763
02:18:20,890 --> 02:18:24,812
This is what would come out of the analysis

1764
02:18:24,812 --> 02:18:28,412
that we are planning to do.

1765
02:18:31,784 --> 02:18:34,139
Member Denton: Since the public approved this

1766
02:18:34,139 --> 02:18:39,539
based on the 1% tax, I'm willing to go ahead.

1767
02:18:39,582 --> 02:18:43,289
I want to hear from the public regarding these considerations

1768
02:18:43,289 --> 02:18:46,239
with this money involved and whether there's still

1769
02:18:46,239 --> 02:18:47,419
an agreement.

1770
02:18:47,419 --> 02:18:50,474
Feel free to email me and the rest of us.

1771
02:18:50,474 --> 02:18:55,874
I want to hear in general on these topics.

1772
02:18:59,208 --> 02:18:59,873
>> Pam Smith.

1773
02:18:59,873 --> 02:19:05,873
One of the discussions during the process around the staffing

1774
02:19:08,667 --> 02:19:13,467
study is whether the facility will cover this.

1775
02:19:14,229 --> 02:19:18,429
They will interview everyone and find out

1776
02:19:20,990 --> 02:19:23,494
how our department works and how the Fire Department works.

1777
02:19:23,494 --> 02:19:26,163
That would determine the size of the building,

1778
02:19:26,163 --> 02:19:28,989
versus a full blown staffing study.

1779
02:19:28,989 --> 02:19:31,699
That cost can be high.

1780
02:19:31,699 --> 02:19:35,292
Benton just paid $65,000 for a staffing study.

1781
02:19:35,292 --> 02:19:39,939
We are trying to save some money there.

1782
02:19:39,939 --> 02:19:44,679
The 1% sales tax has been happening the past six years.

1783
02:19:44,679 --> 02:19:47,595
The money is there for this needs assessment now.

1784
02:19:47,595 --> 02:19:49,939
We need to know what we can do.

1785
02:19:49,939 --> 02:19:52,533
Do we build on top of what we have or do

1786
02:19:52,533 --> 02:19:54,339
we have to go somewhere else?

1787
02:19:54,339 --> 02:19:58,539
That is where we are with this.

1788
02:20:03,730 --> 02:20:05,246
Mayor Lux: Any other questions?

1789
02:20:05,246 --> 02:20:07,246
Any motion?

1790
02:20:09,586 --> 02:20:14,386
Member Julian: I move to approve amendment one.

1791
02:20:14,499 --> 02:20:21,990
Mayor Lux: Do I have a Vice Mayor Polk: I second.

1792
02:20:22,779 --> 02:20:25,408
Mayor Lux: Motion and second on the floor.

1793
02:20:25,408 --> 02:20:28,363
All in favor raise your hand?

1794
02:20:28,363 --> 02:20:30,763
All raised our hands.

1795
02:20:32,139 --> 02:20:33,279
Opposed?

1796
02:20:33,279 --> 02:20:35,990
Motion carries.

1797
02:20:35,990 --> 02:20:37,990
Thank you.

1798
02:20:40,326 --> 02:20:42,576
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney: Agenda item six C,

1799
02:20:42,576 --> 02:20:48,576
a word of amendment to Carrollo engineers Inc of Sarasota

1800
02:20:52,747 --> 02:20:57,110
Florida, to provide professional services for the rehabilitation

1801
02:20:57,110 --> 02:21:00,385
of well number five and well number six at the Shell Creek

1802
02:21:00,385 --> 02:21:05,185
Reserve osmosis water treatment >> An Hyman from procurement.

1803
02:21:07,590 --> 02:21:13,659
This is an amendment to award of amendment to Carollo engineers.

1804
02:21:17,330 --> 02:21:21,779
This is the plan, design, provide bid assistance

1805
02:21:21,779 --> 02:21:23,529
and technical oversight of rehabilitation

1806
02:21:23,529 --> 02:21:27,179
of Wells five and six at the water treatment plant.

1807
02:21:27,179 --> 02:21:33,179
The purpose of rehabilitation is to restore and possibly increase

1808
02:21:33,363 --> 02:21:35,763
capacity and water quality.

1809
02:21:38,699 --> 02:21:41,299
Time frame to complete authorization

1810
02:21:41,299 --> 02:21:44,819
is six months from the notice to proceed.

1811
02:21:44,819 --> 02:21:50,219
Staff recommends approval of the amendment to Carollo Engineers.

1812
02:21:57,354 --> 02:22:00,399
Member Denton: Would this be considered of 197 million

1813
02:22:00,399 --> 02:22:05,199
we are putting towards water quality and sewer?

1814
02:22:05,795 --> 02:22:07,795
The plan.

1815
02:22:10,590 --> 02:22:14,259
>> This was included in our budget for 2026.

1816
02:22:26,153 --> 02:22:31,187
Vice Mayor Polk: I move to approve six C.

1817
02:22:31,187 --> 02:22:33,587
Member Denton: I second.

1818
02:22:34,179 --> 02:22:36,810
Mayor Lux: Motion and second on the floor.

1819
02:22:36,810 --> 02:22:38,827
All in favor raise your hand?

1820
02:22:38,827 --> 02:22:41,179
All four raised our hands.

1821
02:22:41,179 --> 02:22:42,299
Opposed?

1822
02:22:42,299 --> 02:22:44,199
Motion carries.

1823
02:22:44,199 --> 02:22:47,199
Utilities on top of everything.

1824
02:22:47,305 --> 02:22:49,241
You are one step ahead.

1825
02:22:49,241 --> 02:22:52,709
I thank you and procurement for moving this forward

1826
02:22:52,709 --> 02:22:54,190
for our residents.

1827
02:22:54,190 --> 02:22:56,190
Thank you.

1828
02:22:59,960 --> 02:23:02,238
Steven S. Leskovich, City Attorney:

1829
02:23:02,238 --> 02:23:05,238
Six D, Trabue Park improvements.

1830
02:23:17,785 --> 02:23:20,723
>> Good morning, Carl, urban design.

1831
02:23:20,723 --> 02:23:23,829
This is a presentation for park improvements.

1832
02:23:23,829 --> 02:23:26,195
The main focus of the presentation is grants.

1833
02:23:26,195 --> 02:23:29,632
The city is lucky to have a proactive grants coordinator.

1834
02:23:29,632 --> 02:23:32,359
However, one issue we hear from them

1835
02:23:32,359 --> 02:23:36,979
is that we need concepts and plans to go for these grants.

1836
02:23:36,979 --> 02:23:39,230
This is a high level plan for him

1837
02:23:39,230 --> 02:23:43,430
to use to go for park improvements.

1838
02:23:47,579 --> 02:23:51,179
This is the area in question.

1839
02:23:51,205 --> 02:23:53,196
It starts at the Adrian Street pier.

1840
02:23:53,196 --> 02:23:56,771
This is the end of the Harbor walk.

1841
02:23:56,771 --> 02:24:01,571
We are calling this the Harbor Walk gateway.

1842
02:24:03,990 --> 02:24:07,299
We have a draft, unfunded CIP, for 2027

1843
02:24:08,547 --> 02:24:11,379
through 2031, which would allow us

1844
02:24:11,379 --> 02:24:15,563
to pursue this project in grants that we are talking about.

1845
02:24:15,563 --> 02:24:18,491
Some of the improvements we are talking about

1846
02:24:18,491 --> 02:24:22,691
is the National Fitness campaign fitness court.

1847
02:24:24,669 --> 02:24:27,580
They reached out for fitness opportunities

1848
02:24:27,580 --> 02:24:29,247
and we thought this would be a great way

1849
02:24:29,247 --> 02:24:31,290
to start the conversation?

1850
02:24:31,290 --> 02:24:33,739
There are also passive park upgrades

1851
02:24:33,739 --> 02:24:35,794
with winding path and small bridge.

1852
02:24:35,794 --> 02:24:40,771
There are open activity areas to provide a nice, cohesive place

1853
02:24:40,771 --> 02:24:42,235
to hang out.

1854
02:24:42,235 --> 02:24:47,350
There is also Adrian Street pier street improvements

1855
02:24:47,439 --> 02:24:51,390
and we would possibly expand parking.

1856
02:24:56,339 --> 02:25:00,787
There is a possible acquisition at Harbor Work East

1857
02:25:00,787 --> 02:25:04,387
to provide amenities within the area.

1858
02:25:04,947 --> 02:25:07,519
We can do the special flood hazard area

1859
02:25:07,519 --> 02:25:10,771
property purchase to increase park access

1860
02:25:10,771 --> 02:25:13,883
and use and mitigate future property losses.

1861
02:25:13,883 --> 02:25:16,919
These are the existing fitness stations

1862
02:25:16,919 --> 02:25:19,339
we have by Fisherman's Village.

1863
02:25:19,339 --> 02:25:22,457
This is where we get the idea of bookending the fitness thing.

1864
02:25:22,457 --> 02:25:25,892
It is all at the side of the park.

1865
02:25:25,892 --> 02:25:28,750
We usually don't have anything at the eastern side of the park.

1866
02:25:28,750 --> 02:25:30,895
We want to bring something there.

1867
02:25:30,895 --> 02:25:33,499
This is a national fitness campaign.

1868
02:25:33,499 --> 02:25:36,325
These are the people who reached out to the city.

1869
02:25:36,325 --> 02:25:38,725
They offered a $30,000 grant.

1870
02:25:42,531 --> 02:25:46,563
They have a fitness court that starts at $200,000.

1871
02:25:46,563 --> 02:25:50,122
There are a lot of amenities attached to it

1872
02:25:50,122 --> 02:25:52,712
part of the process is bringing the community together.

1873
02:25:52,712 --> 02:25:56,445
There is a wall on one side of it

1874
02:25:56,445 --> 02:26:01,485
and it gives us an opportunity to provide a local artist

1875
02:26:01,485 --> 02:26:03,699
an area to paint.

1876
02:26:03,699 --> 02:26:08,355
The other is a fitness court and studio.

1877
02:26:08,355 --> 02:26:12,499
It doubles the size of the area and offers a nice flat area

1878
02:26:12,499 --> 02:26:14,859
for exercises and activities.

1879
02:26:14,859 --> 02:26:17,259
The cost starts around $262,000.

1880
02:26:17,895 --> 02:26:25,950
These are two options we can look into if we so decide.

1881
02:26:26,525 --> 02:26:30,912
There are other ways we can make this an active park.

1882
02:26:30,912 --> 02:26:35,339
Some of us grew up with these wooden training

1883
02:26:35,339 --> 02:26:37,499
things in the parks.

1884
02:26:37,499 --> 02:26:41,515
You can find them when you walk around Sarasota.

1885
02:26:41,515 --> 02:26:43,805
They are cheaper to maintain.

1886
02:26:43,805 --> 02:26:47,830
They may not be as durable but it offers activities

1887
02:26:47,830 --> 02:26:50,459
and we can maintain it at a reasonable price.

1888
02:26:50,459 --> 02:26:55,555
There are also ninja courses, which are big for kids nowadays

1889
02:26:55,555 --> 02:27:01,801
there is an indoor one in Renton that I take my kids to.

1890
02:27:01,801 --> 02:27:03,767
This may be fun.

1891
02:27:03,767 --> 02:27:06,219
This is on the east side of town.

1892
02:27:06,219 --> 02:27:09,645
Cooper Street and Carmelita have almost all of our school's.

1893
02:27:09,645 --> 02:27:13,299
We have the Boys and Girls Club on Cooper Street.

1894
02:27:13,299 --> 02:27:16,339
There are a lot of teens and children on that side of town

1895
02:27:16,339 --> 02:27:19,691
that congregate to this project this is something

1896
02:27:19,691 --> 02:27:22,910
we should think about.

1897
02:27:24,659 --> 02:27:31,259
Back in 2005, the city worked with the trust for Public Lands

1898
02:27:32,599 --> 02:27:37,399
and accumulated some of these properties in red

1899
02:27:41,239 --> 02:27:44,839
that butt up against West Marion.

1900
02:27:44,875 --> 02:27:49,750
There was 6 or 7 lands the city acquired

1901
02:27:49,699 --> 02:27:52,990
and mitigated future loss.

1902
02:27:53,499 --> 02:27:57,990
These were targeted in Hurricane Charley.

1903
02:27:57,445 --> 02:28:00,912
This is part of a bigger plan the city has been working on

1904
02:28:00,912 --> 02:28:01,795
for a while.

1905
02:28:01,795 --> 02:28:08,395
This is the further layout of the Trabue Park Land Use.

1906
02:28:18,312 --> 02:28:20,467
Two of these parcels are available.

1907
02:28:20,467 --> 02:28:22,795
We would love to acquire these parcels

1908
02:28:22,795 --> 02:28:26,627
but we understand upcoming things being voted on

1909
02:28:26,627 --> 02:28:29,270
may limit future finances.

1910
02:28:31,979 --> 02:28:39,425
We would love to do this all but we are separating them in case

1911
02:28:39,425 --> 02:28:41,560
we cannot do the land acquisition now.

1912
02:28:41,560 --> 02:28:46,960
We still want to do improvements to Trabue Park.

1913
02:28:48,115 --> 02:28:50,979
We are keeping these separate so they don't tie each other down.

1914
02:28:50,979 --> 02:28:53,849
This is the proposed future use.

1915
02:28:53,849 --> 02:28:57,865
The bottom left corner is the National campaign Fitness court.

1916
02:28:57,865 --> 02:29:02,270
Moving up there is an open fitness area

1917
02:29:02,270 --> 02:29:05,676
that could be another fitness area come up

1918
02:29:05,676 --> 02:29:10,179
like the Ninja court, or a passive place for recreation.

1919
02:29:10,179 --> 02:29:13,195
Going across the street is a property

1920
02:29:13,195 --> 02:29:15,119
we weren't able to acquire.

1921
02:29:15,119 --> 02:29:20,509
We own the big green square but it is underutilized.

1922
02:29:20,509 --> 02:29:26,509
We want to plant trees and make it more attractive.

1923
02:29:31,739 --> 02:29:34,872
The little blue building is a property

1924
02:29:34,872 --> 02:29:38,596
we want to acquire in the future if we can.

1925
02:29:38,596 --> 02:29:41,720
It's an existing structure, so if we

1926
02:29:41,720 --> 02:29:43,259
want to convert it to amenities, there's

1927
02:29:43,259 --> 02:29:47,731
already water and electric which would reduce costs.

1928
02:29:47,731 --> 02:29:53,131
Across the way is another part of NC property

1929
02:29:54,650 --> 02:29:57,829
we want to buy for conservation.

1930
02:29:57,829 --> 02:30:01,429
It is mostly wetlands as is.

1931
02:30:02,167 --> 02:30:07,869
We included the park concept from 2006 to highlight the plan

1932
02:30:07,869 --> 02:30:10,967
as something the city wanted for 20 years the city is trying

1933
02:30:10,967 --> 02:30:13,367
to pursue these grants .

1934
02:30:15,296 --> 02:30:21,159
In 2020, we reached out to work with trust Public Lands.

1935
02:30:21,159 --> 02:30:23,805
This fell through in 2020 and we know

1936
02:30:23,805 --> 02:30:26,219
that this is because of COVID.

1937
02:30:26,219 --> 02:30:28,299
We hit a wall.

1938
02:30:28,299 --> 02:30:32,931
Here's the proposed layout we would like to use moving forward

1939
02:30:32,931 --> 02:30:34,439
for all the grant applications.

1940
02:30:34,439 --> 02:30:40,590
To the left is a fitness court that could be expanded or moved.

1941
02:30:40,590 --> 02:30:44,190
We have a winding sidewalk that goes through it.

1942
02:30:44,190 --> 02:30:47,147
The rectangle at the top would be a pedestrian bridge

1943
02:30:47,147 --> 02:30:54,347
to tie into the existing harbor walk that creates a circle walk.

1944
02:30:55,659 --> 02:31:01,389
The winding path leads to another area of passive activity

1945
02:31:01,389 --> 02:31:01,919
zone.

1946
02:31:01,919 --> 02:31:06,250
All of this can be changed as needed.

1947
02:31:06,250 --> 02:31:09,121
This is just a large view.

1948
02:31:09,121 --> 02:31:13,321
This is the part by Adrienne Street.

1949
02:31:15,940 --> 02:31:19,540
We want to fix this pier.

1950
02:31:20,460 --> 02:31:22,291
I like to think we are still a fishing community.

1951
02:31:22,291 --> 02:31:28,300
We want to reinstate that and create this fishing and exercise

1952
02:31:28,300 --> 02:31:28,931
hub.

1953
02:31:28,931 --> 02:31:31,723
We have possible expansion of the parking.

1954
02:31:31,723 --> 02:31:36,787
We only have eight parking spots right now, and two of the spots

1955
02:31:36,787 --> 02:31:38,519
are handicapped parking.

1956
02:31:38,519 --> 02:31:45,119
If we want to expand this place we need more parking.

1957
02:31:45,279 --> 02:31:49,479
I will let Richard explain the grants.

1958
02:31:56,377 --> 02:31:58,777
>> Rick Lemko, grants coordinator.

1959
02:32:04,907 --> 02:32:06,667
Thank you for the time.

1960
02:32:06,667 --> 02:32:12,670
We have a couple opportunities to fund these improvements

1961
02:32:12,185 --> 02:32:15,185
in acquisition of Trabue Park.

1962
02:32:21,115 --> 02:32:23,115
It is ten acres but there are enclaves within it

1963
02:32:23,115 --> 02:32:26,715
that make the park less usable.

1964
02:32:27,435 --> 02:32:29,739
The first opportunity for funding

1965
02:32:29,739 --> 02:32:32,749
is outdoor recreation legacy Partnership program.

1966
02:32:32,749 --> 02:32:35,920
That is with the National Park Service.

1967
02:32:35,920 --> 02:32:40,492
They can fund up to $15 million each grant cycle.

1968
02:32:41,619 --> 02:32:45,689
Right now it is funded for the next five years and the funding

1969
02:32:45,689 --> 02:32:50,489
opportunity closes on November 1st with the feds.

1970
02:32:51,139 --> 02:32:53,110
I've worked with the trust for Public Lands

1971
02:32:53,110 --> 02:32:56,275
for the last couple of months.

1972
02:32:56,275 --> 02:33:00,843
I've talked with them to see how we can develop anything if we

1973
02:33:00,843 --> 02:33:03,843
are able to acquire anything.

1974
02:33:05,859 --> 02:33:08,759
Right now they are able to assist us

1975
02:33:08,759 --> 02:33:10,990
with grant application.

1976
02:33:10,990 --> 02:33:13,119
I will do grant writing internally

1977
02:33:13,119 --> 02:33:16,444
but they will give a technical overview of it.

1978
02:33:16,444 --> 02:33:20,891
Part of the program is dialed into access to recreation.

1979
02:33:20,891 --> 02:33:24,512
That is what we are trying to do.

1980
02:33:24,512 --> 02:33:27,399
We are trying to improve access to the east Side and all

1981
02:33:27,399 --> 02:33:32,799
of our residents, so we can improve the amount

1982
02:33:33,299 --> 02:33:35,379
of people that go there.

1983
02:33:35,379 --> 02:33:39,339
Earlier Carl was talking about the internal discussion

1984
02:33:39,339 --> 02:33:43,563
of calling it a gateway to the Harborwalk.

1985
02:33:43,563 --> 02:33:46,679
As we come in from the East on Marion,

1986
02:33:46,679 --> 02:33:53,879
this would be another thing we see in addition to the hospital.

1987
02:33:54,907 --> 02:33:58,139
We need more going on because we've had hurricanes.

1988
02:33:58,139 --> 02:34:01,939
This may be a first step to bring everything together

1989
02:34:01,939 --> 02:34:06,139
to make the east side beautiful again.

1990
02:34:06,819 --> 02:34:11,619
Increasing access to Trabue Park with expanded parking

1991
02:34:16,353 --> 02:34:17,507
would be great.

1992
02:34:17,507 --> 02:34:19,923
We currently only have eight spots

1993
02:34:19,923 --> 02:34:25,323
for people to access Adrienne Pier and Trabue Park.

1994
02:34:30,880 --> 02:34:33,867
We have an underserved East side.

1995
02:34:33,867 --> 02:34:38,670
This grant is funded for five years

1996
02:34:38,765 --> 02:34:45,965
but we can move forward with any grant opportunity the next three

1997
02:34:50,516 --> 02:34:51,895
years.

1998
02:34:51,895 --> 02:34:57,624
FERDAP is a smaller grant and is limited in the amount of money.

1999
02:34:57,624 --> 02:35:02,190
It is harder to get and you can do less with it.

2000
02:35:02,190 --> 02:35:06,819
FEMA offers up something through flood mitigation assistance

2001
02:35:07,259 --> 02:35:10,259
and flood hazard mitigation grants.

2002
02:35:15,539 --> 02:35:20,339
There are properties we are trying to acquire

2003
02:35:23,146 --> 02:35:26,146
at Adrienne and Marion streets.

2004
02:35:33,519 --> 02:35:40,719
One of the properties is right at the access spot to Adrienne.

2005
02:35:43,522 --> 02:35:48,922
Side control gives us access to Harborwalk, the amenities,

2006
02:35:52,619 --> 02:35:54,619
and the pier.

2007
02:35:56,465 --> 02:36:01,265
The pier will be renovated at some point

2008
02:36:02,622 --> 02:36:04,562
and the access will be helpful.

2009
02:36:04,562 --> 02:36:07,315
We put in access to apply for the FEMA

2010
02:36:07,315 --> 02:36:09,729
grant, which is a 25% match.

2011
02:36:09,729 --> 02:36:13,275
It has not been applied for yet but there is an intention

2012
02:36:13,275 --> 02:36:16,419
that we could move forward with that.

2013
02:36:16,419 --> 02:36:19,990
I didn't mention this before but there

2014
02:36:19,990 --> 02:36:22,739
are two opportunities for grant funding for the Outdoor

2015
02:36:22,739 --> 02:36:23,651
Recreation grant.

2016
02:36:23,651 --> 02:36:27,259
One is just for the improvements Carl mentioned

2017
02:36:27,259 --> 02:36:30,819
before the improvements would be one grant and a separate grant

2018
02:36:30,819 --> 02:36:34,419
application would be for property acquisition.

2019
02:36:35,579 --> 02:36:40,619
We didn't mention that they are listed for sale.

2020
02:36:40,619 --> 02:36:43,190
They are distressed properties.

2021
02:36:43,419 --> 02:36:46,651
There's an MLS listing for them right now.

2022
02:36:46,651 --> 02:36:51,451
Even if they aren't listed, you can always

2023
02:36:51,712 --> 02:36:54,712
have a negotiation, a discussion.

2024
02:36:55,919 --> 02:36:58,147
There are other grant opportunities out there

2025
02:36:58,147 --> 02:36:59,992
that I haven't discussed.

2026
02:36:59,992 --> 02:37:04,192
National Fitness campaign is a small grant .

2027
02:37:05,211 --> 02:37:07,211
There are 30,000 available.

2028
02:37:07,619 --> 02:37:12,419
Another opened up, which is coastal Partnership initiative,

2029
02:37:14,179 --> 02:37:18,379
for access to waterfront recreation and opportunities.

2030
02:37:19,525 --> 02:37:24,434
That is available and is a technical assistance and grant

2031
02:37:24,434 --> 02:37:29,834
planning for the planning and design of our Piers.

2032
02:37:31,590 --> 02:37:32,726
It is a good opportunity to move forward

2033
02:37:32,726 --> 02:37:36,326
with increased resilience for our Piers.

2034
02:37:37,433 --> 02:37:41,330
A lot of opportunities improve access

2035
02:37:43,379 --> 02:37:48,179
for residents, the underserved, and improves our resilience.

2036
02:37:48,888 --> 02:37:54,288
We don't have to go through the hardship again.

2037
02:37:55,590 --> 02:38:00,459
Maybe a eight foot storm surge will happen again.

2038
02:38:02,947 --> 02:38:06,754
The earlier discussion with the Waterfront Hotel

2039
02:38:06,754 --> 02:38:09,522
talked about a 12 foot water surge

2040
02:38:09,522 --> 02:38:12,396
that Hans designed with a dock system.

2041
02:38:12,396 --> 02:38:15,190
This is kind of where we need to be.

2042
02:38:15,190 --> 02:38:19,219
Construction costs increase with better improved designs,

2043
02:38:19,219 --> 02:38:22,983
but that would be a separate source of funding.

2044
02:38:22,983 --> 02:38:26,339
The next steps would be getting a feel

2045
02:38:26,339 --> 02:38:32,339
for where you want to be with Adrienne Street Pier.

2046
02:38:34,872 --> 02:38:37,586
I know this is a public works process.

2047
02:38:37,586 --> 02:38:39,729
I talked to our administration.

2048
02:38:39,729 --> 02:38:46,329
There's a way to work with FEMA to make sure these

2049
02:38:47,189 --> 02:38:49,189
are improved designs.

2050
02:38:54,844 --> 02:38:58,910
Trabue Park improvements are right around $1 million.

2051
02:38:58,910 --> 02:39:02,291
The good thing about the ORLP grant

2052
02:39:02,560 --> 02:39:05,739
is I can move forward with the grant application

2053
02:39:05,739 --> 02:39:09,637
without having an actual design or permits.

2054
02:39:09,637 --> 02:39:14,699
A lot of grants require this but all they require now

2055
02:39:14,699 --> 02:39:16,109
is a concept.

2056
02:39:16,109 --> 02:39:20,909
Any funding would take us past 2028 fiscal year.

2057
02:39:21,779 --> 02:39:27,379
If we get awarded in May, it would take at least 180 days

2058
02:39:27,379 --> 02:39:30,379
to get an executed agreement.

2059
02:39:31,990 --> 02:39:36,499
We are realistically looking well into the end of 2028

2060
02:39:36,847 --> 02:39:39,225
or the beginning of fiscal year 2029

2061
02:39:39,225 --> 02:39:45,467
before we can start a project, if it is awarded with the grant

2062
02:39:45,467 --> 02:39:46,331
cycle.

2063
02:39:46,331 --> 02:39:50,590
We don't really need a design yet.

2064
02:39:50,590 --> 02:39:56,270
That's in the future whenever you are inclined to do that.

2065
02:39:56,270 --> 02:39:59,690
I have a couple grant funding opportunities

2066
02:39:59,690 --> 02:40:01,439
I can begin moving forward with.

2067
02:40:01,439 --> 02:40:05,256
This is kind of where we are at.

2068
02:40:05,256 --> 02:40:07,489
We are just looking for direction.

2069
02:40:07,489 --> 02:40:14,890
This slide deck shows what the actual fitness court looks like.

2070
02:40:16,232 --> 02:40:20,859
It is designed to bring the community together.

2071
02:40:20,859 --> 02:40:22,282
That is kind of where we are at.

2072
02:40:22,282 --> 02:40:25,939
We are asking for council direction and questions.

2073
02:40:25,939 --> 02:40:27,939
Thank you.

2074
02:40:28,779 --> 02:40:30,763
Mayor Lux: Thank you.

2075
02:40:30,763 --> 02:40:32,763
Any questions?

2076
02:40:33,459 --> 02:40:37,259
Member Julian: So, we aren't obligated to spend

2077
02:40:37,259 --> 02:40:42,279
taxpayer dollars at all until we receive the grants.

2078
02:40:42,279 --> 02:40:45,750
Then there's cost sharing involved in it.

2079
02:40:45,750 --> 02:40:50,689
We can proceed with the concept and applying for grants

2080
02:40:50,689 --> 02:40:53,890
without obligating tax dollars.

2081
02:40:55,590 --> 02:40:59,259
>> No, unless you are awarded a grant,

2082
02:40:59,799 --> 02:41:03,399
you are not obligated to proceed.

2083
02:41:08,339 --> 02:41:13,250
Federal grants require long time before a contract is written.

2084
02:41:13,250 --> 02:41:18,279
We are not looking at the fiscal year budget but one

2085
02:41:18,279 --> 02:41:20,279
down the year.

2086
02:41:20,739 --> 02:41:25,499
When I'm looking at my numbers and dates for the bigger grant,

2087
02:41:25,499 --> 02:41:28,499
2029 is what I'm looking at.

2088
02:41:29,619 --> 02:41:36,145
If we are awarded the Grand, we will look forward to a 50% match

2089
02:41:36,145 --> 02:41:38,691
a couple years down the road.

2090
02:41:38,691 --> 02:41:41,691
The other grants are different.

2091
02:41:42,123 --> 02:41:46,651
The CPI grant would be awarded in March.

2092
02:41:46,651 --> 02:41:50,251
That would also be a 50% grant.

2093
02:41:50,693 --> 02:41:55,599
That is a smaller project for design of Piers.

2094
02:41:55,599 --> 02:41:59,799
The FEMA grant would be a 25% match.

2095
02:42:00,796 --> 02:42:05,596
It takes a long time to execute contracts.

2096
02:42:11,572 --> 02:42:13,499
Member Denton: You have some great ideas.

2097
02:42:13,499 --> 02:42:17,239
Whatever we consider, we need to think about the cost

2098
02:42:17,239 --> 02:42:19,239
of maintenance .

2099
02:42:21,176 --> 02:42:25,640
If it could be a natural or low maintenance park,

2100
02:42:25,640 --> 02:42:27,239
that would be helpful.

2101
02:42:27,239 --> 02:42:30,315
Did pickleball ever cross your mind?

2102
02:42:30,315 --> 02:42:32,715
People always love that.

2103
02:42:34,779 --> 02:42:38,481
Another question I had was with Piers,

2104
02:42:38,481 --> 02:42:42,850
if it is a flow through dock that may

2105
02:42:42,850 --> 02:42:45,685
be a better solution than wood.

2106
02:42:52,665 --> 02:42:55,650
Sorry about the echo.

2107
02:42:55,252 --> 02:42:59,339
Is there something we can do with a climbing wall?

2108
02:42:59,339 --> 02:43:03,139
I know we have to think about liability.

2109
02:43:03,139 --> 02:43:06,279
The Ninja Park idea looks fun and could

2110
02:43:06,279 --> 02:43:07,750
attract younger people.

2111
02:43:07,750 --> 02:43:10,659
I was hoping to get a comment from Pastor Thomas

2112
02:43:10,659 --> 02:43:12,811
because this was near his community.

2113
02:43:12,811 --> 02:43:17,565
I would like to hear from him and people

2114
02:43:17,565 --> 02:43:20,332
he knows maybe he has other ideas.

2115
02:43:20,332 --> 02:43:23,639
Maybe we need a soccer field.

2116
02:43:23,639 --> 02:43:27,331
The east side is an underserved area.

2117
02:43:27,331 --> 02:43:29,390
I like all your ideas.

2118
02:43:29,390 --> 02:43:32,429
I don't want it to cost money at this point.

2119
02:43:32,429 --> 02:43:34,670
We have so many questions ahead of us.

2120
02:43:34,670 --> 02:43:38,270
But we have so many grants.

2121
02:43:49,875 --> 02:43:51,875
>> Thank you Ma'am.

2122
02:43:53,224 --> 02:43:58,475
We kicked football and soccer around a little bit.

2123
02:43:58,475 --> 02:44:01,475
We have East Marion here.

2124
02:44:05,459 --> 02:44:08,291
I don't think this place is appropriate

2125
02:44:08,291 --> 02:44:10,645
this close to the road.

2126
02:44:10,645 --> 02:44:14,119
There are a lot of considerations

2127
02:44:14,119 --> 02:44:15,879
we took into account.

2128
02:44:15,879 --> 02:44:20,159
Walls may be incorporated within the ninja course.

2129
02:44:20,159 --> 02:44:24,219
There may be a little small climbing wall.

2130
02:44:24,219 --> 02:44:29,619
There are going to be fitness courts for adults.

2131
02:44:32,670 --> 02:44:35,667
We have these bi linear park.

2132
02:44:36,300 --> 02:44:40,203
We want to incorporate another adult court.

2133
02:44:41,627 --> 02:44:45,827
We really want to embrace the children.

2134
02:44:46,563 --> 02:44:49,907
My child brings this up to me all the time.

2135
02:44:49,907 --> 02:44:54,361
We have three schools over there there's a way for those kids

2136
02:44:54,361 --> 02:44:56,527
to get to the water and enjoy it.

2137
02:44:56,527 --> 02:44:59,579
It would be good if there's a way for the kids

2138
02:44:59,579 --> 02:45:03,990
to cross the street with a crosswalk to enjoy a ninja

2139
02:45:03,990 --> 02:45:05,499
course, amenity, or fishing.

2140
02:45:06,459 --> 02:45:09,199
The kids are what's important to me right now.

2141
02:45:09,199 --> 02:45:11,659
We do not have amenities for kids.

2142
02:45:11,659 --> 02:45:14,952
We have a few parks but they are few and far between.

2143
02:45:14,952 --> 02:45:17,451
They are typically at the schools.

2144
02:45:17,451 --> 02:45:21,379
When I go towards Sally Jones, I see a nice park

2145
02:45:21,379 --> 02:45:25,363
but it is closed after school hours.

2146
02:45:25,363 --> 02:45:27,543
I think you had another question.

2147
02:45:27,543 --> 02:45:31,900
Funding will be an issue but this

2148
02:45:31,900 --> 02:45:34,139
is a discussion that's been in the works for 20 years,

2149
02:45:34,139 --> 02:45:37,279
since we had a CR a.

2150
02:45:37,279 --> 02:45:39,472
It is an underserved area and we can

2151
02:45:39,472 --> 02:45:41,320
make things happen with this.

2152
02:45:41,320 --> 02:45:45,232
We had a discussion with other departments

2153
02:45:45,643 --> 02:45:50,443
in the state that do transportation in regards

2154
02:45:53,950 --> 02:45:53,757
to crosswalks.

2155
02:45:53,757 --> 02:45:56,547
If we have a reason to get a crosswalk,

2156
02:45:56,547 --> 02:46:01,579
we can get one in the medical overlay district.

2157
02:46:01,579 --> 02:46:06,990
We can bring in a crosswalk if we have a purpose for it.

2158
02:46:06,990 --> 02:46:07,987
We can have a safety measure to bring people

2159
02:46:07,987 --> 02:46:11,411
in from the actual city proper into the recreation area.

2160
02:46:11,411 --> 02:46:17,410
If we design it, we can get a crosswalk of some kind.

2161
02:46:17,410 --> 02:46:22,915
There's a number of things we can bring together to make this

2162
02:46:22,915 --> 02:46:24,915
really nice .

2163
02:46:26,659 --> 02:46:30,670
My thinking is that this is a gateway to the city.

2164
02:46:30,670 --> 02:46:34,270
That is where we are at.

2165
02:46:34,899 --> 02:46:37,905
We are looking for direction and the ability

2166
02:46:37,905 --> 02:46:40,305
to pursue this grant.

2167
02:46:43,788 --> 02:46:44,955
Mayor Lux: I agree with you.

2168
02:46:44,955 --> 02:46:46,955
This is one of the biggest things we talk about.

2169
02:46:46,955 --> 02:46:52,691
We talk about our development and what we want to do.

2170
02:46:52,691 --> 02:46:55,307
It seems like everything stops on the west side.

2171
02:46:55,307 --> 02:47:00,205
We need to incorporate the east side that brings development

2172
02:47:00,205 --> 02:47:02,205
into our community.

2173
02:47:03,659 --> 02:47:09,590
You bring up a good point, Council member Denton,

2174
02:47:09,790 --> 02:47:11,790
with maintenance.

2175
02:47:22,923 --> 02:47:29,523
>> Fixing Adrienne Pier is one of the projects in the works.

2176
02:47:31,499 --> 02:47:38,699
Mayor Lux: This may be a more protected area for the kids.

2177
02:47:41,859 --> 02:47:47,859
You are saying there are properties for sale right now.

2178
02:47:49,739 --> 02:47:53,939
The asking price for a distressed property

2179
02:47:54,845 --> 02:47:57,845
seems unique for their cost.

2180
02:47:58,405 --> 02:48:02,720
If this is distressed and in a flood zone,

2181
02:48:02,720 --> 02:48:06,459
is it really valued at this amount of money?

2182
02:48:06,459 --> 02:48:12,459
>> It just became more valuable today because we talked about

2183
02:48:15,130 --> 02:48:17,130
it. (laughing).

2184
02:48:19,197 --> 02:48:23,419
Mayor Lux: That's one of the tough things about --

2185
02:48:23,419 --> 02:48:25,419
hang >> Absolutely.

2186
02:48:27,528 --> 02:48:33,555
This has been on the books for some years in the CRA.

2187
02:48:33,555 --> 02:48:40,755
FEMA has a process where they have to use a yellow book.

2188
02:48:42,659 --> 02:48:45,659
Real estate entities, FEMA coordinators,

2189
02:48:46,419 --> 02:48:51,590
and us have to coordinate the asking price.

2190
02:48:51,590 --> 02:48:55,664
It will be in accord with their yellow book.

2191
02:48:55,664 --> 02:48:57,963
It is a real estate term.

2192
02:48:57,963 --> 02:49:00,630
I've never heard about this before.

2193
02:49:00,630 --> 02:49:02,595
There is a process to negotiate the price down

2194
02:49:02,595 --> 02:49:04,995
to a realistic term.

2195
02:49:06,459 --> 02:49:10,590
That is my thing on that.

2196
02:49:10,916 --> 02:49:15,730
If property acquisition is done through ORLP,

2197
02:49:15,730 --> 02:49:19,273
I imagine it is a similar process.

2198
02:49:23,419 --> 02:49:27,224
Mayor Lux: We are saving a bunch of money with the 1% sales tax.

2199
02:49:27,224 --> 02:49:29,624
Is this currently unfunded?

2200
02:49:31,659 --> 02:49:33,623
>> That is correct.

2201
02:49:33,623 --> 02:49:35,139
It is unfunded.

2202
02:49:35,139 --> 02:49:40,384
Mayor Lux: There are areas where we are saving money

2203
02:49:40,384 --> 02:49:42,384
on other projects.

2204
02:49:42,399 --> 02:49:47,173
I personally think this is a great way

2205
02:49:47,173 --> 02:49:52,435
to see we are nature and on the water.

2206
02:49:52,435 --> 02:49:56,635
I understand the costs but we may

2207
02:49:57,530 --> 02:50:00,492
find some money in our 1% that we aren't

2208
02:50:00,492 --> 02:50:02,299
using that may help with that.

2209
02:50:02,299 --> 02:50:05,299
>> I would have to verify.

2210
02:50:06,370 --> 02:50:08,619
I don't believe that was ever a voter approved project.

2211
02:50:08,619 --> 02:50:11,619
Maybe it was 12 years ago.

2212
02:50:12,100 --> 02:50:13,149
I'm not aware.

2213
02:50:13,149 --> 02:50:14,819
I will look into that.

2214
02:50:14,819 --> 02:50:18,899
Otherwise, we cannot use voter approved money to projects

2215
02:50:18,899 --> 02:50:21,299
voters have an approved.

2216
02:50:28,477 --> 02:50:36,277
Mayor Lux: When I got on in 2023 it was funded for Trabue Park.

2217
02:50:38,196 --> 02:50:39,821
Melissa Reichert, City Manager: I'm not

2218
02:50:39,821 --> 02:50:44,659
recalling that as part of my review but I can look into it.

2219
02:50:44,659 --> 02:50:48,859
Mayor Lux: The newest thing I'm doing.

2220
02:50:49,247 --> 02:50:49,747
Got it.

2221
02:50:49,747 --> 02:50:53,347
That's something you should look into.

2222
02:50:56,200 --> 02:50:57,520
Melissa Reichert, City Manager: It's

2223
02:50:57,520 --> 02:50:57,526
as simple as checking the list.

2224
02:50:57,526 --> 02:50:58,260
Yes.

2225
02:50:58,260 --> 02:51:02,226
Mayor Lux: Is this just for discussion

2226
02:51:02,301 --> 02:51:05,301
or do you want direction?

2227
02:51:07,637 --> 02:51:10,540
Member Julian: I believe they are asking for our direction

2228
02:51:10,540 --> 02:51:11,721
and this is great vision for the future.

2229
02:51:11,721 --> 02:51:14,399
This has been undergoing for quite some time.

2230
02:51:14,399 --> 02:51:18,363
I think we can recommend they continue

2231
02:51:18,363 --> 02:51:20,169
applying for the grants.

2232
02:51:20,169 --> 02:51:23,769
We can take it from there.

2233
02:51:25,590 --> 02:51:28,730
Mayor Lux: Does this include looking at the purchase price

2234
02:51:28,730 --> 02:51:29,859
for a buildings as well?

2235
02:51:29,859 --> 02:51:33,459
Member Julian: Yes, all of it.

2236
02:51:33,964 --> 02:51:36,339
Those great collaboration between urban design and Grants

2237
02:51:36,339 --> 02:51:36,859
coordinator.

2238
02:51:36,859 --> 02:51:38,643
They've laid out great funding options.

2239
02:51:38,643 --> 02:51:42,843
I recommend that we let them proceed.

2240
02:51:46,203 --> 02:51:46,979
Mayor Lux: Second?

2241
02:51:46,979 --> 02:51:49,419
Vice Mayor Polk: From what I'm understanding,

2242
02:51:49,419 --> 02:51:51,419
we aren't necessarily purchasing properties now.

2243
02:51:51,419 --> 02:51:53,390
This is something that we would like

2244
02:51:53,390 --> 02:51:57,819
to be a part of in the future.

2245
02:51:57,819 --> 02:52:03,179
I would imagine that if we had these properties appraised,

2246
02:52:03,179 --> 02:52:10,619
we could have that in hand to know for sure what the market

2247
02:52:10,619 --> 02:52:11,939
value would be.

2248
02:52:11,939 --> 02:52:15,119
This is a great idea and wonderful concept.

2249
02:52:15,119 --> 02:52:19,219
We just spent $400,000 on redoing one side

2250
02:52:19,219 --> 02:52:23,419
of our entrance, the Free Man House.

2251
02:52:28,889 --> 02:52:32,824
Now you look at this bright, beautiful yellow home

2252
02:52:32,824 --> 02:52:34,639
and it must be a historic district.

2253
02:52:34,639 --> 02:52:42,439
Coming through the other side , it isn't as fluffy as we want it

2254
02:52:50,929 --> 02:52:51,949
to look.

2255
02:52:51,949 --> 02:52:54,583
The children on that side of town

2256
02:52:54,583 --> 02:52:57,285
need something to play with.

2257
02:52:57,285 --> 02:53:03,485
When I was growing up, parks were the school you went to.

2258
02:53:03,485 --> 02:53:05,659
You hung out at the school after school

2259
02:53:05,659 --> 02:53:07,699
and you could use the swings.

2260
02:53:07,699 --> 02:53:11,499
All the schools are completely blocked off and you cannot get

2261
02:53:11,499 --> 02:53:12,899
in them.

2262
02:53:12,899 --> 02:53:15,765
The program's taxpayers pay for are not

2263
02:53:15,765 --> 02:53:19,443
able to be used outside of school hours.

2264
02:53:19,443 --> 02:53:23,679
This is something to think about when we are discussing this.

2265
02:53:23,679 --> 02:53:25,679
Thank you.

2266
02:53:32,694 --> 02:53:34,111
Member Denton: I think it would be

2267
02:53:34,111 --> 02:53:35,212
wonderful to move ahead, search out grants, and see

2268
02:53:35,212 --> 02:53:36,523
what we can do.

2269
02:53:36,523 --> 02:53:43,723
I don't know if we need to acquire the NC Passive Park

2270
02:53:44,342 --> 02:53:46,759
wetlands because we cannot do anything with that unless we

2271
02:53:46,759 --> 02:53:49,379
have a plan for the property.

2272
02:53:49,379 --> 02:53:53,579
Mayor Lux: Can I get a motion?

2273
02:54:13,416 --> 02:54:17,616
Vice Mayor Polk: Motion to approve 6D.

2274
02:54:19,690 --> 02:54:22,669
Member Denton: I will second that.

2275
02:54:24,104 --> 02:54:24,604
6D.

2276
02:54:24,604 --> 02:54:26,563
>> I will second that.

2277
02:54:26,563 --> 02:54:31,292
We have a motion and a second to approve all in favor.

2278
02:54:31,292 --> 02:54:32,997
Raise your hand.

2279
02:54:32,997 --> 02:54:35,997
Four yeses Pierre motion carries.

2280
02:54:36,473 --> 02:54:42,473
Thank you so much for looking into this for us.

2281
02:54:44,357 --> 02:54:49,118
>> Agenda item 6E vacant parcel donation the city of Punta Punta

2282
02:54:49,118 --> 02:54:53,716
Gorda, recommendation is to accept the parcel donation

2283
02:54:53,716 --> 02:54:59,116
to provide council direction on execution of the transfer.

2284
02:54:59,819 --> 02:55:01,819
>> Pressed the button .

2285
02:55:23,172 --> 02:55:26,604
>> Once again, earlier in the summer we were approached

2286
02:55:26,604 --> 02:55:31,391
by miss Carol keys who's the owner of these parcels here.

2287
02:55:31,391 --> 02:55:34,240
There's three parcels she wants to donate.

2288
02:55:34,240 --> 02:55:38,828
At first she wanted to donate and so

2289
02:55:38,828 --> 02:55:42,666
there is no real value or purpose in these properties

2290
02:55:42,666 --> 02:55:43,275
anymore.

2291
02:55:43,275 --> 02:55:49,875
Many years ago, submerged land was parceled out and sold with

2292
02:55:53,818 --> 02:56:00,418
no use ... this is what remains of some of the antiquated

2293
02:56:08,477 --> 02:56:10,657
property uses that we had back in the days.

2294
02:56:10,657 --> 02:56:13,894
So we have two submerged lines and parcels

2295
02:56:13,894 --> 02:56:16,821
that are valued at about $30 and then

2296
02:56:16,821 --> 02:56:21,621
we have one mangrove that is valued at $10.

2297
02:56:21,792 --> 02:56:25,142
A lready part of Trabue Park.

2298
02:56:25,142 --> 02:56:27,230
There's nothing for us to do with it right now.

2299
02:56:27,230 --> 02:56:33,230
We have to do some maintenance with the mangroves, that's

2300
02:56:33,976 --> 02:56:37,269
a question for public works but we're doing mangrove maintenance

2301
02:56:37,269 --> 02:56:43,869
and I don't see any downside to us accepting these parcels.

2302
02:56:45,681 --> 02:56:48,810
That's it for me.

2303
02:56:49,225 --> 02:56:54,851
Miss keys would like to execute this transfer by October first

2304
02:56:54,851 --> 02:57:00,251
and that was her request earlier in the summer.

2305
02:57:02,611 --> 02:57:04,611
>> Thank you.

2306
02:57:04,629 --> 02:57:08,587
Really we're just approving this today and we --

2307
02:57:08,587 --> 02:57:13,347
the recorded deed is what you're saying here even though

2308
02:57:13,347 --> 02:57:15,575
they're not any value I think it's kind of cool that

2309
02:57:15,575 --> 02:57:18,988
she's allowing us to have these for free.

2310
02:57:18,988 --> 02:57:22,588
I would say we approve 6E.

2311
02:57:23,633 --> 02:57:28,154
>> Great, did you have anything to say before you approve?

2312
02:57:28,154 --> 02:57:32,354
>> I would ask, is title search necessary ?

2313
02:57:39,353 --> 02:57:42,950
>> I'm assuming you're asking me because you're looking at me

2314
02:57:42,950 --> 02:57:42,807
whether it's.

2315
02:57:42,807 --> 02:57:46,550
We did all the background on it.

2316
02:57:46,550 --> 02:57:47,789
The information was sent to me, we

2317
02:57:47,789 --> 02:57:49,372
verified the deeds and everything else

2318
02:57:49,372 --> 02:57:55,372
and were able to go to a deed with it.

2319
02:57:56,799 --> 02:58:01,649
>> Okay, so do you want to redo your motion?

2320
02:58:01,649 --> 02:58:03,757
>> You make the motion?

2321
02:58:03,757 --> 02:58:09,112
I'll make the motion to approve Carol keys generous donation

2322
02:58:09,112 --> 02:58:15,712
of the three parcels named in this -- what is it?

2323
02:58:16,430 --> 02:58:18,430
>> Just partial donations.

2324
02:58:20,244 --> 02:58:22,644
>> I will second that.

2325
02:58:22,887 --> 02:58:26,758
>> We have a motion -- it's almost like a keyboard here.

2326
02:58:26,758 --> 02:58:29,213
We have a motion and a second on the floor to accept this.

2327
02:58:29,213 --> 02:58:32,159
All in favor please say aye.

2328
02:58:32,159 --> 02:58:35,759
Opposed motion carries all four yeses.

2329
02:58:39,778 --> 02:58:43,378
>> Agenda 6F, CD exterior displays --

2330
02:58:49,651 --> 02:58:51,651
City exterior displays.

2331
02:58:57,309 --> 02:58:59,309
>> Press the button.

2332
02:58:59,926 --> 02:59:02,155
>> I'll get used to it I promise.

2333
02:59:02,155 --> 02:59:06,955
I'm the city manager, it's the afternoon officially .

2334
02:59:09,125 --> 02:59:12,125
Just getting my PowerPoint up .

2335
02:59:23,574 --> 02:59:25,480
Another exciting statement for the future

2336
02:59:25,480 --> 02:59:27,880
for the communication side.

2337
02:59:29,490 --> 02:59:33,841
We are seeking approval for three exterior city display

2338
02:59:33,841 --> 02:59:35,371
placements.

2339
02:59:35,371 --> 02:59:40,321
The displays will be remotely operated by staff and they

2340
02:59:40,321 --> 02:59:43,321
enable efficient centralised content management .

2341
02:59:46,392 --> 02:59:51,312
The displays themselves we already have on hand calculator

2342
02:59:51,312 --> 02:59:56,712
40-inch view displays and they're looking to place them

2343
02:59:58,165 --> 03:00:02,965
in heavy foot traffic locations around the city.

2344
03:00:03,322 --> 03:00:05,400
So Splashpad would be the first one.

2345
03:00:05,400 --> 03:00:07,225
There's a wall that is blank that we

2346
03:00:07,225 --> 03:00:11,425
can get power to an internet to the display itself.

2347
03:00:11,425 --> 03:00:13,950
T hat would be the first location

2348
03:00:13,950 --> 03:00:18,992
it's on the south east exterior wall of the public restroom.

2349
03:00:18,992 --> 03:00:22,416
The second is the herald court parking garage.

2350
03:00:22,416 --> 03:00:24,410
The blank space that is there right now

2351
03:00:24,410 --> 03:00:26,800
there's a heavy amount of foot traffic constantly going

2352
03:00:26,800 --> 03:00:26,875
through there.

2353
03:00:26,875 --> 03:00:31,260
We figured it would be another great location for high

2354
03:00:31,260 --> 03:00:33,260
visibility .

2355
03:00:33,742 --> 03:00:37,942
Finally, the harbor walk at Gilchrist park.

2356
03:00:38,560 --> 03:00:40,948
That restroom building that faces the harbor

2357
03:00:40,948 --> 03:00:46,820
is another excellent location for heavy foot traffic as well.

2358
03:00:46,820 --> 03:00:49,688
So we are seeking the approval for those three locations.

2359
03:00:49,688 --> 03:00:52,880
I'll take any questions.

2360
03:00:56,140 --> 03:00:59,145
>> I just want to know, what would be on --

2361
03:00:59,145 --> 03:01:01,535
what would you be putting up there?

2362
03:01:01,535 --> 03:01:03,392
Since I have the microphone --

2363
03:01:03,392 --> 03:01:06,117
I'm going to ask her a couple questions.

2364
03:01:06,117 --> 03:01:08,404
The other one is is this all day?

2365
03:01:08,404 --> 03:01:11,421
Would someone be there putting up things on it all day long?

2366
03:01:11,421 --> 03:01:13,590
You're saying an employee would be --

2367
03:01:13,590 --> 03:01:17,324
is that in the morning they put something up and they leave

2368
03:01:17,324 --> 03:01:19,718
so can you talk about that a bit more?

2369
03:01:19,718 --> 03:01:24,565
They're already purchased, when was that approved and how long

2370
03:01:24,565 --> 03:01:30,677
have we had them and what was their purpose to begin with ?

2371
03:01:30,677 --> 03:01:32,574
>> Great question.

2372
03:01:32,574 --> 03:01:35,747
The company we're already using is verbal digital.

2373
03:01:35,747 --> 03:01:38,611
That's the one you would see in public safety

2374
03:01:38,611 --> 03:01:39,665
building over there.

2375
03:01:39,665 --> 03:01:41,997
So it's something that is pre-programmed,

2376
03:01:41,997 --> 03:01:44,397
something I can monitor.

2377
03:01:44,398 --> 03:01:47,141
It is being very useful with this.

2378
03:01:47,141 --> 03:01:51,203
They're helping me along the way and it's simply

2379
03:01:51,203 --> 03:01:53,603
just Pre-programming our messages.

2380
03:01:53,974 --> 03:01:55,968
Any city event that we're looking

2381
03:01:55,968 --> 03:02:00,534
to have the fall festival tree lighting, any important messages

2382
03:02:00,534 --> 03:02:05,608
we want to display it's just having it on a rotation.

2383
03:02:05,608 --> 03:02:08,575
The question about where the display is, we had them prior

2384
03:02:08,575 --> 03:02:12,175
and they're sitting in storage so it's something that I figured

2385
03:02:12,175 --> 03:02:14,592
is a way to step into the right direction of communication

2386
03:02:14,592 --> 03:02:17,514
and we're all about expanding them and getting messages

2387
03:02:17,514 --> 03:02:19,373
to our residents.

2388
03:02:19,373 --> 03:02:25,308
Why not -- put those into use and get those into those

2389
03:02:25,308 --> 03:02:26,496
locations.

2390
03:02:26,496 --> 03:02:29,742
>> This is a project that we had planned in a prior budget year.

2391
03:02:29,742 --> 03:02:31,859
The reason we're bringing forth to city council

2392
03:02:31,859 --> 03:02:34,912
is because outdoor signage has to be approved by City council

2393
03:02:34,912 --> 03:02:37,316
before we put it in place.

2394
03:02:37,316 --> 03:02:39,600
So we're making you aware of the project.

2395
03:02:39,600 --> 03:02:40,810
We're not asking for any additional funds,

2396
03:02:40,810 --> 03:02:45,492
these are all funds that have been previously budgeted.

2397
03:02:45,492 --> 03:02:50,130
Emergency messages would also be shown on these displays, given

2398
03:02:50,130 --> 03:02:52,953
that if we have our power and internet

2399
03:02:52,953 --> 03:02:55,291
back we would have messages there

2400
03:02:55,291 --> 03:02:57,510
but it also serves as a location as we

2401
03:02:57,510 --> 03:03:00,265
get the community aware of it that we could have

2402
03:03:00,265 --> 03:03:03,595
a central place to for them to gather at one of those sites

2403
03:03:03,595 --> 03:03:05,509
where we could have paper information

2404
03:03:05,509 --> 03:03:10,997
available in the case of a hurricane and things like that

2405
03:03:10,997 --> 03:03:12,997
as well.

2406
03:03:13,691 --> 03:03:18,953
>> I would love to see us actually have internet access

2407
03:03:18,953 --> 03:03:21,536
over the across the whole park area because I think that would

2408
03:03:21,536 --> 03:03:25,241
really work when there's events there and stuff like that.

2409
03:03:25,241 --> 03:03:27,155
There's just isn't that internet which we're

2410
03:03:27,155 --> 03:03:29,512
trying to promote revenue.

2411
03:03:29,512 --> 03:03:31,799
I think it's something that would be cost effective.

2412
03:03:31,799 --> 03:03:36,682
If you're looking at doing internet in the one spot could

2413
03:03:36,682 --> 03:03:38,860
we see -- we would need consensus.

2414
03:03:38,860 --> 03:03:42,158
If we would see about expanding that to more internet access

2415
03:03:42,158 --> 03:03:46,781
across the whole park area and how much that would cost.

2416
03:03:46,781 --> 03:03:50,486
>> Don't have a consensus to consider looking into that

2417
03:03:50,486 --> 03:03:52,486
as well?

2418
03:03:53,175 --> 03:03:53,675
>> Yes.

2419
03:03:53,675 --> 03:03:55,930
>> Okay.

2420
03:03:55,930 --> 03:03:57,858
So you don't need a motion or anything like this?

2421
03:03:57,858 --> 03:04:02,854
It's -- do you need motion because it's something

2422
03:04:02,854 --> 03:04:04,854
that's signage?

2423
03:04:07,444 --> 03:04:11,916
>> If you could just approve the locations that would -- motion,

2424
03:04:11,916 --> 03:04:13,260
that would be appreciated.

2425
03:04:13,260 --> 03:04:17,410
>> Do you need for us a consensus or you're okay with us

2426
03:04:17,410 --> 03:04:18,830
staying in consensus?

2427
03:04:18,830 --> 03:04:22,174
>> The consensus was fine for looking into the internet

2428
03:04:22,174 --> 03:04:24,174
for the part .

2429
03:04:30,959 --> 03:04:32,892
>> I have one more question.

2430
03:04:32,892 --> 03:04:34,930
The duration of time will be on on this

2431
03:04:34,930 --> 03:04:39,130
has to do with lighting at night.

2432
03:04:39,426 --> 03:04:41,278
I'm just a little concerned because we

2433
03:04:41,278 --> 03:04:43,902
do have the historic district and I love the ambience

2434
03:04:43,902 --> 03:04:45,647
of the lighting where we have.

2435
03:04:45,647 --> 03:04:48,997
I just want to make sure it's not taking away from that.

2436
03:04:48,997 --> 03:04:51,299
It's like stepping back in time when

2437
03:04:51,299 --> 03:04:54,874
you're walking at night if you haven't done that recently.

2438
03:04:54,874 --> 03:04:57,311
Then you would see this thing lit up.

2439
03:04:57,311 --> 03:05:00,822
I just want to make sure that it's not on 24 over seven

2440
03:05:00,822 --> 03:05:04,422
and we're not seeing something flash.

2441
03:05:06,732 --> 03:05:08,732
>> Isn't that --

2442
03:05:15,312 --> 03:05:16,437
>> That's a great question.

2443
03:05:16,437 --> 03:05:19,279
Right now that's up for discussion at this point as far

2444
03:05:19,279 --> 03:05:21,161
as the time frame.

2445
03:05:21,161 --> 03:05:24,299
I believe 24 over seven was the initial thought.

2446
03:05:24,299 --> 03:05:27,122
I don't know how that's going to affect the lighting

2447
03:05:27,122 --> 03:05:30,122
but that's up for discussion .

2448
03:05:33,722 --> 03:05:39,722
>> The one doesn't face any housing or anything like that

2449
03:05:41,746 --> 03:05:45,900
can't get in a commercial area and then the one in Gilchrist is

2450
03:05:45,900 --> 03:05:47,866
on the water side of the building, isn't it?

2451
03:05:47,866 --> 03:05:50,866
Facing away from the community .

2452
03:06:01,321 --> 03:06:05,455
>> Here's the one on the harbor -- that faces the harbor itself.

2453
03:06:05,455 --> 03:06:10,846
This one faces -- there's the one restaurant there and then

2454
03:06:10,846 --> 03:06:13,172
the dessert place as well.

2455
03:06:13,172 --> 03:06:16,307
I am not sure if that's going to affect too much on the lighting

2456
03:06:16,307 --> 03:06:18,522
side if that was 24 over seven.

2457
03:06:18,522 --> 03:06:22,722
This one is facing the parking lot .

2458
03:06:25,553 --> 03:06:27,553
>> This looks interesting.

2459
03:06:33,409 --> 03:06:35,357
You can subdue the lighting maybe

2460
03:06:35,357 --> 03:06:37,341
to have automatically subdue that light.

2461
03:06:37,341 --> 03:06:40,341
Still there but not bright.

2462
03:06:40,733 --> 03:06:43,214
I'm sure you thought of this, but I

2463
03:06:43,214 --> 03:06:46,640
think there should be mounted rather

2464
03:06:46,640 --> 03:06:49,664
high, in each location because we've

2465
03:06:51,386 --> 03:06:54,336
had problems in those areas.

2466
03:06:54,336 --> 03:06:57,870
Can I go ahead and make a motion?

2467
03:06:57,870 --> 03:06:59,870
Move to approve 6.

2468
03:07:06,455 --> 03:07:06,955
F.

2469
03:07:06,955 --> 03:07:08,699
>> I second that.

2470
03:07:08,699 --> 03:07:12,600
>> We have a motion and second to approve 6.

2471
03:07:12,600 --> 03:07:12,741
F.

2472
03:07:12,741 --> 03:07:15,581
All in favor please raise your hand.

2473
03:07:15,581 --> 03:07:16,321
Four raises.

2474
03:07:16,321 --> 03:07:18,321
Motion carries.

2475
03:07:18,876 --> 03:07:21,276
Thank you for that.

2476
03:07:24,654 --> 03:07:26,311
>> Agenda 6.

2477
03:07:26,311 --> 03:07:29,911
G, strategic plan quarter three update.

2478
03:07:39,369 --> 03:07:42,680
>> Assistant city manager can I care for the strategic plan

2479
03:07:42,680 --> 03:07:44,680
update 2026 quarter three.

2480
03:07:45,100 --> 03:07:47,988
Roger run into it getting to the fire department.

2481
03:07:47,988 --> 03:07:53,112
Goal one for the fire department is the safer grant staffing

2482
03:07:53,112 --> 03:07:57,912
that was reapplied for and that's in process.

2483
03:07:59,191 --> 03:08:02,870
Goal two is the emergency response vehicle.

2484
03:08:02,870 --> 03:08:05,356
Hiring six personnel and purchasing vehicles on track.

2485
03:08:05,356 --> 03:08:08,946
Goal three is purchase tiger dams and material have

2486
03:08:08,946 --> 03:08:10,755
been purchased and ready for deployment

2487
03:08:10,755 --> 03:08:12,755
that's been completed.

2488
03:08:16,179 --> 03:08:19,173
The first goal is to a living shoreline project,

2489
03:08:19,173 --> 03:08:23,711
design contract was selected and that's on track.

2490
03:08:23,711 --> 03:08:25,656
Goal two is the Bayfront Center improvement

2491
03:08:25,656 --> 03:08:30,440
design scope work is in process and that's also on track.

2492
03:08:30,440 --> 03:08:32,378
Goal three historic district improvements

2493
03:08:32,378 --> 03:08:36,903
reassessment is in process and that's on track.

2494
03:08:36,903 --> 03:08:42,903
Goal four, historic city hall rehab designed to start start

2495
03:08:43,173 --> 03:08:45,153
may 2026 and that's on track as well.

2496
03:08:45,153 --> 03:08:48,730
Goal five is the building permit software,

2497
03:08:48,730 --> 03:08:50,473
the contractor selection may 2026

2498
03:08:50,709 --> 03:08:53,393
and that's on track as well.

2499
03:08:53,393 --> 03:08:57,593
The city clerk's office, their first goal

2500
03:08:59,860 --> 03:09:03,886
I should say host the third annual plan

2501
03:09:04,387 --> 03:09:06,469
for the Neighbourhood Fall festival

2502
03:09:06,469 --> 03:09:10,255
and then the third annual event to be held in October

2503
03:09:10,255 --> 03:09:13,460
and third annual event planning on their way, 70

2504
03:09:13,460 --> 03:09:19,900
nonprofits which I believe that number is higher at this point.

2505
03:09:19,900 --> 03:09:21,617
And $1500 in sponsorships which is also

2506
03:09:21,617 --> 03:09:26,294
higher at this point as well and that's on track.

2507
03:09:26,294 --> 03:09:30,344
Goal two to revise council policies all viewed by council.

2508
03:09:30,344 --> 03:09:34,509
R evisions for council direction underway and that's on track.

2509
03:09:34,509 --> 03:09:38,199
Finally goal three, finalised record management training,

2510
03:09:38,199 --> 03:09:40,986
recently hired records coordinator has received

2511
03:09:40,986 --> 03:09:44,581
training and basic training materials prepared digital

2512
03:09:44,581 --> 03:09:47,564
retention materials to be finalised once rolled out

2513
03:09:47,564 --> 03:09:51,164
and that's in process then paused.

2514
03:09:51,471 --> 03:09:54,261
The police department got their first goal,

2515
03:09:54,261 --> 03:09:57,261
deploy license plate readers --

2516
03:09:58,310 --> 03:10:00,310
>> Hang on.

2517
03:10:00,776 --> 03:10:04,380
>> It is paused because we have to get the files after it

2518
03:10:04,380 --> 03:10:07,323
completely implemented, that took a back seat to some

2519
03:10:07,323 --> 03:10:11,713
of the other priorities that Brian had recently with getting

2520
03:10:11,713 --> 03:10:14,522
the communications going in here.

2521
03:10:14,522 --> 03:10:17,361
I'm starting to get the new such as deployed.

2522
03:10:17,361 --> 03:10:18,736
It's important but less important

2523
03:10:18,736 --> 03:10:22,540
than a few other things we had to do right now.

2524
03:10:22,540 --> 03:10:25,276
>> Can you press it again?

2525
03:10:25,276 --> 03:10:26,343
>> There we go.

2526
03:10:26,343 --> 03:10:29,960
Not sure if you heard goal one but goal one

2527
03:10:29,960 --> 03:10:32,194
to deploy license plate reader and that's completed their goal

2528
03:10:32,194 --> 03:10:34,801
to make this upgrade firearm spherical pistols

2529
03:10:34,801 --> 03:10:37,290
have been received and all but six officers

2530
03:10:37,290 --> 03:10:38,573
have completed training.

2531
03:10:38,573 --> 03:10:41,156
They're scheduled for training July 29th.

2532
03:10:41,156 --> 03:10:43,556
That's husband already completed.

2533
03:10:44,221 --> 03:10:46,840
Goal three and hence radio system for public safety.

2534
03:10:46,840 --> 03:10:49,810
All radios have been received and we

2535
03:10:49,810 --> 03:10:52,706
are reading on Kcso radio manager Doug Blevins

2536
03:10:52,706 --> 03:10:53,766
to program them.

2537
03:10:53,766 --> 03:10:55,766
That's on track.

2538
03:10:57,989 --> 03:11:01,330
Finally programming equipment for safer response

2539
03:11:01,330 --> 03:11:02,772
during weather related emergencies

2540
03:11:02,772 --> 03:11:04,173
in high water incidents.

2541
03:11:04,173 --> 03:11:06,500
The barricade has been received as everybody has seen

2542
03:11:06,500 --> 03:11:09,403
and it's waiting for administration for the city

2543
03:11:09,403 --> 03:11:13,261
clerk's office and officers will be trained on that that's

2544
03:11:13,261 --> 03:11:16,261
on track here human resources.

2545
03:11:17,853 --> 03:11:21,400
Goal one, improve 88 tracking and reporting currently

2546
03:11:21,400 --> 03:11:25,391
in procurement RFP and that is behind.

2547
03:11:25,391 --> 03:11:27,477
Goal two safety initiative, there's

2548
03:11:27,477 --> 03:11:31,933
a 10% decrease in lost workdays due to accidents and injuries

2549
03:11:31,933 --> 03:11:35,447
and that's in process and finally goal three training

2550
03:11:35,447 --> 03:11:38,358
software and content, the upskilling of employees

2551
03:11:38,358 --> 03:11:42,558
through online training that is on track.

2552
03:11:43,974 --> 03:11:48,174
Public works, goal one increase staffing levels

2553
03:11:48,485 --> 03:11:51,328
got 15% more staff by march 2026 to improve

2554
03:11:51,328 --> 03:11:55,528
infrastructure maintenance response time, that is complete.

2555
03:11:55,935 --> 03:11:59,535
Launch of stormwater planning inspection rate 100%

2556
03:12:00,670 --> 03:12:04,320
of high priority stormwater pipes by April 2026, developed

2557
03:12:04,320 --> 03:12:07,796
phased replacement plan that's on track.

2558
03:12:07,796 --> 03:12:11,293
Goal three, complete a project that

2559
03:12:11,293 --> 03:12:14,220
could finish all phases by September 2027

2560
03:12:14,220 --> 03:12:16,332
to improve drainage conditions.

2561
03:12:16,332 --> 03:12:17,594
That's in process.

2562
03:12:17,594 --> 03:12:21,648
Goal four modernise GIS infrastructure data to digitise

2563
03:12:21,648 --> 03:12:25,248
and verify 50% of public works infrastructure,

2564
03:12:25,341 --> 03:12:29,541
data by September 2026 that is on track.

2565
03:12:29,904 --> 03:12:33,203
Goal five plan future infrastructure and facility

2566
03:12:33,203 --> 03:12:36,323
needs develop GIS asset maps serving 123

2567
03:12:36,323 --> 03:12:38,584
for maintenance planning by September 2026

2568
03:12:38,584 --> 03:12:40,984
that is in process.

2569
03:12:44,957 --> 03:12:48,158
Finance can go one implement invoice automation,

2570
03:12:48,158 --> 03:12:49,676
initial scope presented to finance

2571
03:12:49,676 --> 03:12:52,651
and I.T. due to the new I.T. Manager starting recently,

2572
03:12:52,651 --> 03:12:55,726
no additional progress has been made.

2573
03:12:55,726 --> 03:12:59,668
Finance also has been very busy with grant applications,

2574
03:12:59,668 --> 03:13:02,262
interim loan RFP and loan agreement and purchase

2575
03:13:02,262 --> 03:13:04,262
information and various council requests related

2576
03:13:04,262 --> 03:13:08,120
to the police union research of other municipalities

2577
03:13:08,120 --> 03:13:10,414
and counties and review of legislative developments

2578
03:13:10,414 --> 03:13:13,910
for property taxes and utilities.

2579
03:13:13,910 --> 03:13:15,910
Slight delay.

2580
03:13:15,299 --> 03:13:17,676
Goal two, improve FEMA documentation,

2581
03:13:17,676 --> 03:13:20,899
bits have been received, records obtained in committees

2582
03:13:20,899 --> 03:13:22,621
are rescheduled.

2583
03:13:22,621 --> 03:13:23,721
Slight delay.

2584
03:13:23,721 --> 03:13:26,721
Finally, launch CIP planning software,

2585
03:13:26,991 --> 03:13:30,438
initial scope is developed due to the new hiring of the I.T.

2586
03:13:30,438 --> 03:13:35,838
manager, no additional progress has been made, slight delay.

2587
03:13:37,241 --> 03:13:39,241
Procurement .

2588
03:13:39,850 --> 03:13:43,181
Goal one is integrate with invoice automation system

2589
03:13:43,181 --> 03:13:47,267
schedule a training session for procurement that's been delayed.

2590
03:13:47,267 --> 03:13:50,478
Goal to streamline procurement processes correct procedures

2591
03:13:50,478 --> 03:13:52,312
and technology.

2592
03:13:52,312 --> 03:13:55,912
January 2026 review and identify improvement opportunities.

2593
03:13:56,674 --> 03:13:59,868
They updated dispute language and agreement with the City

2594
03:13:59,868 --> 03:14:02,973
attorney and collaborating with the departments

2595
03:14:02,973 --> 03:14:07,173
to update the project checklist, doesn't process.

2596
03:14:07,394 --> 03:14:10,994
Finally goal three, expanding staff training.

2597
03:14:12,247 --> 03:14:14,996
We'll be working with the vendor to implement new system

2598
03:14:14,996 --> 03:14:17,638
and procedures and to schedule training, that's

2599
03:14:17,638 --> 03:14:20,380
in process as well.

2600
03:14:20,997 --> 03:14:22,997
I T.

2601
03:14:26,508 --> 03:14:30,281
Goal one, automate processes for finance, building utilities

2602
03:14:30,281 --> 03:14:32,154
and police department.

2603
03:14:32,154 --> 03:14:35,210
Replace travel request management process period

2604
03:14:35,210 --> 03:14:36,493
that's on track.

2605
03:14:36,493 --> 03:14:39,763
Goal two, automate processes for utilities and police department

2606
03:14:39,763 --> 03:14:41,263
establish invoice management system.

2607
03:14:41,263 --> 03:14:43,263
That's on hold.

2608
03:14:43,439 --> 03:14:45,559
And goal three, automate processes

2609
03:14:45,559 --> 03:14:48,345
for finance building utilities and police department

2610
03:14:48,345 --> 03:14:50,604
correct establish permitting management system, that

2611
03:14:50,604 --> 03:14:52,604
is on track.

2612
03:14:52,674 --> 03:14:56,960
Goal four automate processes for finance building utilities

2613
03:14:56,960 --> 03:14:59,759
and police department, establish other management systems

2614
03:14:59,759 --> 03:15:02,158
that is on hold.

2615
03:15:02,158 --> 03:15:05,731
Goal five, security at campus gates and facilities

2616
03:15:05,731 --> 03:15:08,136
for utilities public works and police department,

2617
03:15:08,136 --> 03:15:11,870
developing scope of work to support procurement out

2618
03:15:11,870 --> 03:15:14,393
of a security camera system design vendor.

2619
03:15:14,393 --> 03:15:15,580
Denton track.

2620
03:15:15,580 --> 03:15:19,501
Goal six, phase one of the automatic vehicle location

2621
03:15:19,501 --> 03:15:22,833
for public works, utilities, fire and code compliance,

2622
03:15:22,833 --> 03:15:26,204
engaging departments to define the pilot program leveraging

2623
03:15:26,204 --> 03:15:30,585
existing GIS tools evaluating feasibility for phase APL

2624
03:15:30,585 --> 03:15:31,210
implementation.

2625
03:15:31,210 --> 03:15:33,409
That is on track.

2626
03:15:33,409 --> 03:15:37,990
Goal seven, implement call tracking and city wide --

2627
03:15:37,990 --> 03:15:39,157
City work order solutions.

2628
03:15:39,157 --> 03:15:41,990
Working with departments to optimise

2629
03:15:41,990 --> 03:15:45,761
use of existing work versus them prior to pursuing new solutions,

2630
03:15:45,761 --> 03:15:49,200
focusing on improving adoption and efficiency,

2631
03:15:49,200 --> 03:15:51,420
that is on track.

2632
03:15:51,653 --> 03:15:53,598
Finally goal eight set up call center

2633
03:15:53,598 --> 03:15:55,723
cracking pair coordinating with ERP vendor

2634
03:15:55,723 --> 03:15:59,923
to restore and evaluate call tracking functionality,

2635
03:16:01,457 --> 03:16:04,550
assessing viability of existing solutions before replacement

2636
03:16:04,550 --> 03:16:04,555
options.

2637
03:16:04,555 --> 03:16:06,955
That is on track.

2638
03:16:10,522 --> 03:16:11,440
Utilities.

2639
03:16:11,440 --> 03:16:15,697
Goal one, implement army water system procurement finalising

2640
03:16:15,697 --> 03:16:19,225
the RFP for release, that's on track.

2641
03:16:19,225 --> 03:16:21,439
Goal two, oral plant expansion.

2642
03:16:21,439 --> 03:16:23,856
E ngineering checklist for the design criteria package

2643
03:16:23,856 --> 03:16:27,617
and the owners advisor has been finalised and transmitted

2644
03:16:27,617 --> 03:16:29,440
to procurement.

2645
03:16:29,440 --> 03:16:33,950
Reichert number 69381 has been entered procurement process is

2646
03:16:33,950 --> 03:16:36,695
now formally underway, surface water plant

2647
03:16:37,115 --> 03:16:41,535
has been separated to maintain focus on schedule certainty

2648
03:16:41,535 --> 03:16:45,735
to the RO plant on Wellfield expansion.

2649
03:16:46,888 --> 03:16:51,688
This prioritisation is necessary to meet interlocal agreement

2650
03:16:51,771 --> 03:16:53,344
commitments with Charlotte county

2651
03:16:53,344 --> 03:16:59,813
to address MFL constraints under the city southwest for the water

2652
03:16:59,813 --> 03:17:00,936
management district.

2653
03:17:00,936 --> 03:17:03,972
Fully funded for the combination of Florida department

2654
03:17:03,972 --> 03:17:08,138
of environmental protection SRF financing loans and grants

2655
03:17:08,138 --> 03:17:10,433
eliminating funding risk to schedule

2656
03:17:10,433 --> 03:17:12,720
period that is on track.

2657
03:17:12,720 --> 03:17:14,927
Goal three, conservation program.

2658
03:17:14,927 --> 03:17:17,927
Foundational elements incorporated through chapter 17

2659
03:17:19,824 --> 03:17:22,549
rewrites enforcement and irrigation efficiency standards

2660
03:17:22,549 --> 03:17:25,986
conservation program will be formally developed as part

2661
03:17:25,986 --> 03:17:32,586
of an upcoming WUP renewal met with engineers on 43 to define

2662
03:17:32,966 --> 03:17:36,566
WUP renewals scope including conservation requirements

2663
03:17:37,249 --> 03:17:44,390
program only to align with swift mud or southwest water plant --

2664
03:17:44,390 --> 03:17:48,445
water management district to demand management expectations

2665
03:17:48,445 --> 03:17:51,445
and demonstrate quantifiable conservation measures.

2666
03:17:52,440 --> 03:17:55,296
Next steps to include defining programs component,

2667
03:17:55,296 --> 03:17:58,530
tracking metrics and integrating into WP application

2668
03:17:58,530 --> 03:18:01,424
package, that is on track.

2669
03:18:01,424 --> 03:18:03,824
Finally, improve wastewater reliability.

2670
03:18:07,375 --> 03:18:11,287
Ls30 project is fully funded including SRF support

2671
03:18:11,287 --> 03:18:13,537
for the lift station and upgrades

2672
03:18:13,537 --> 03:18:17,127
to the master and booster wastewater pumping stations.

2673
03:18:17,127 --> 03:18:20,127
Project scope includes 8296 lfbcp0 replacement,

2674
03:18:23,398 --> 03:18:26,398
24 manhole reputations and connection repairs

2675
03:18:27,236 --> 03:18:28,404
or replacements.

2676
03:18:28,404 --> 03:18:31,404
Engineering and design phases beginning

2677
03:18:32,930 --> 03:18:35,930
with subsequent permitting and construction

2678
03:18:35,829 --> 03:18:37,762
to follow WWTP construction remains

2679
03:18:37,762 --> 03:18:40,762
on schedule for June 2076 completion

2680
03:18:40,980 --> 03:18:43,780
and will provide improved treatment performance

2681
03:18:43,780 --> 03:18:45,780
and regulatory compliance.

2682
03:18:46,480 --> 03:18:48,133
Project will significantly improve

2683
03:18:48,133 --> 03:18:50,118
basin reliability calculator use in I

2684
03:18:50,118 --> 03:18:52,244
and strengthening overall system resilience

2685
03:18:52,244 --> 03:18:55,244
tank that is on track.

2686
03:18:57,151 --> 03:18:59,151
City manager's office.

2687
03:18:59,338 --> 03:19:01,915
Our first goal is complete and implement procurement action

2688
03:19:01,915 --> 03:19:05,236
plan to facilitate the successful delivery of projects

2689
03:19:05,236 --> 03:19:07,578
in a timely and cost effective manner.

2690
03:19:07,578 --> 03:19:09,394
Evaluation committee currently meeting

2691
03:19:09,394 --> 03:19:12,992
to select the vendor that's in process.

2692
03:19:12,992 --> 03:19:14,989
Goal two, produce additional multimedia

2693
03:19:14,989 --> 03:19:17,691
content to inform the public about city initiatives

2694
03:19:17,691 --> 03:19:19,390
and products.

2695
03:19:19,390 --> 03:19:23,389
Is completed and guidance printed that is on track.

2696
03:19:23,389 --> 03:19:27,760
Finally goal three, create an AI or artificial intelligence

2697
03:19:27,760 --> 03:19:30,897
policy, the policy is being developed in a user group

2698
03:19:30,897 --> 03:19:32,897
framework that soundtrack .

2699
03:19:41,524 --> 03:19:43,524
>> Any questions?

2700
03:19:48,559 --> 03:19:51,483
>> I think the city manager had something to say so I was

2701
03:19:51,483 --> 03:19:53,483
waiting for you.

2702
03:19:54,533 --> 03:19:58,350
>> I want to make a quick comment that this presentation

2703
03:19:58,350 --> 03:20:00,649
was put together at the end of the quarter,

2704
03:20:00,649 --> 03:20:02,558
said there's been a bit of a time delay,

2705
03:20:02,558 --> 03:20:05,160
a lot of things happened since then so you're going to hear

2706
03:20:05,160 --> 03:20:08,887
more in my project update report in more details.

2707
03:20:08,887 --> 03:20:10,978
Everything that is in here is correct

2708
03:20:10,978 --> 03:20:12,905
but we advance on a few of the items

2709
03:20:12,905 --> 03:20:17,705
from where they were reported at this time.

2710
03:20:19,225 --> 03:20:22,140
>> I have a few questions with --

2711
03:20:22,140 --> 03:20:25,740
there was a flood response marine.

2712
03:20:27,108 --> 03:20:30,656
Was that this year or the year before?

2713
03:20:30,656 --> 03:20:34,856
On a trailer for the dive team.

2714
03:20:39,680 --> 03:20:43,137
>> Completed -- they were going into the new fiscal year and we

2715
03:20:43,137 --> 03:20:45,537
hadn't received them yet .

2716
03:20:50,151 --> 03:20:52,151
>> Hang on.

2717
03:20:52,290 --> 03:20:53,595
>> Thank you.

2718
03:20:53,595 --> 03:20:55,595
>> Hello.

2719
03:20:57,875 --> 03:21:01,750
>> Actually the boat with the mud motors coming Friday.

2720
03:21:01,750 --> 03:21:05,573
It was in the grant that we did last year.

2721
03:21:05,573 --> 03:21:08,854
And then the trailer has already been received.

2722
03:21:08,854 --> 03:21:14,380
So all that -- the mud boat, we applied for that after.

2723
03:21:14,380 --> 03:21:16,780
So we are ready .

2724
03:21:20,146 --> 03:21:22,146
>> Thank you.

2725
03:21:24,286 --> 03:21:26,286
>> Anybody else?

2726
03:21:27,372 --> 03:21:30,923
>> You may be addressing this but can you tell us a bit more

2727
03:21:30,923 --> 03:21:34,304
about the Bayfront, we'll have another look at those plans

2728
03:21:34,304 --> 03:21:40,304
and also city hall, a bit more detail on that?

2729
03:21:42,428 --> 03:21:44,354
>> The Bayfront plans moving forward,

2730
03:21:44,354 --> 03:21:48,434
you will see them at the various design stages as they move

2731
03:21:48,434 --> 03:21:50,834
through the procurement process.

2732
03:21:51,441 --> 03:21:55,410
After we have that vendor selected,

2733
03:21:55,659 --> 03:21:59,859
then we'll get periodic updates I believe 30%,

2734
03:22:01,331 --> 03:22:06,248
60% and I'm not sure if it's 90% or not but you'll see

2735
03:22:06,248 --> 03:22:07,508
plans every step of the way.

2736
03:22:07,508 --> 03:22:10,936
Right now the project, all the documents

2737
03:22:10,936 --> 03:22:13,467
are ready except for the independent estimate that

2738
03:22:13,467 --> 03:22:15,740
is being worked on right now.

2739
03:22:15,740 --> 03:22:19,147
We have to do that because it does have FEMA funding attached

2740
03:22:19,147 --> 03:22:20,950
to it.

2741
03:22:20,950 --> 03:22:22,930
As soon as we have that done, it's going to be on the street,

2742
03:22:22,930 --> 03:22:29,496
we're hoping maybe even next week, if you will be released.

2743
03:22:29,496 --> 03:22:32,654
>> I wanted to add that when you mentioned the user group working

2744
03:22:32,654 --> 03:22:36,441
on the AI policy, I just met to residents that had completed

2745
03:22:36,441 --> 03:22:41,841
their a master certification and they offered their assistance .

2746
03:22:45,847 --> 03:22:47,847
>> Try again.

2747
03:22:49,758 --> 03:22:50,530
There we go.

2748
03:22:50,530 --> 03:22:52,947
>> If you could give me those names I would appreciate it.

2749
03:22:52,947 --> 03:22:55,743
I think it would be good because as you've seen in the past when

2750
03:22:55,743 --> 03:22:59,154
we presented this, we -- this is going to be a group effort

2751
03:22:59,154 --> 03:23:02,627
on the AI policy and I think maybe integrating a few

2752
03:23:02,627 --> 03:23:05,808
community members into that group would really be helpful.

2753
03:23:05,808 --> 03:23:07,391
Thank you.

2754
03:23:07,391 --> 03:23:10,590
I missed the comment about city hall.

2755
03:23:10,590 --> 03:23:12,478
You should have --

2756
03:23:12,478 --> 03:23:16,379
I'm thinking you're talking about the historic part of city

2757
03:23:16,379 --> 03:23:19,576
hall here we should have a presentation for you,

2758
03:23:19,576 --> 03:23:23,546
second meeting in September with some initial information

2759
03:23:23,546 --> 03:23:25,546
regarding the process.

2760
03:23:31,162 --> 03:23:37,135
>> My only thing is about the safety fencing the fencing

2761
03:23:37,135 --> 03:23:39,773
around the police and fire station.

2762
03:23:39,773 --> 03:23:42,130
I know you proved that quite a while ago.

2763
03:23:42,130 --> 03:23:44,998
I feel like there's been a long time period because they're

2764
03:23:44,998 --> 03:23:47,998
holed up in some way?

2765
03:23:49,200 --> 03:23:51,569
>> There's difficulty in procuring the materials that we

2766
03:23:51,569 --> 03:23:55,873
had wanted to use for the price that we can afford.

2767
03:23:55,873 --> 03:23:58,280
So there's been some back and forth

2768
03:23:58,280 --> 03:24:04,280
with that but that is moving forward and on track.

2769
03:24:08,563 --> 03:24:11,361
>> One of the things I would like to see in here,

2770
03:24:11,361 --> 03:24:13,738
if it's on hold or if it's slightly behind,

2771
03:24:13,738 --> 03:24:16,766
it would be nice to have an update of like --

2772
03:24:16,766 --> 03:24:19,602
this is on hold but we expect it to be on track at this date

2773
03:24:19,602 --> 03:24:21,602
or slightly behind.

2774
03:24:21,908 --> 03:24:23,675
We look at having it updated.

2775
03:24:23,675 --> 03:24:27,690
So we're not just like in limbo because we don't know,

2776
03:24:27,690 --> 03:24:29,790
that is very vague for us.

2777
03:24:29,790 --> 03:24:31,857
I know we don't want to give very specific dates

2778
03:24:31,857 --> 03:24:34,374
but we're a month behind and we plan

2779
03:24:34,374 --> 03:24:37,202
on getting it started again next month so we're

2780
03:24:37,202 --> 03:24:39,845
just aware that we keep that moving forward.

2781
03:24:39,845 --> 03:24:42,149
I know we are but I think for the general public,

2782
03:24:42,149 --> 03:24:44,483
when they see on hold or delayed,

2783
03:24:44,483 --> 03:24:47,639
maybe make a bit more of an explanation of what is happening

2784
03:24:47,639 --> 03:24:51,305
and what we're going to do to make it move forward and I love

2785
03:24:51,305 --> 03:24:54,227
the fact -- thank you for saying we have some experts in there

2786
03:24:54,227 --> 03:25:00,227
because even for writing scopes, using AI, might have --

2787
03:25:02,393 --> 03:25:08,306
might help us move forward faster because this is --

2788
03:25:08,306 --> 03:25:11,965
we're still working on scopes so hopefully AI and experts will

2789
03:25:11,965 --> 03:25:14,859
help us with that as well.

2790
03:25:14,859 --> 03:25:17,542
My other question again with utilities

2791
03:25:17,542 --> 03:25:20,471
fantastic I know it says my water meter system on track.

2792
03:25:20,471 --> 03:25:24,184
Do we have any kind of a date of when we're going

2793
03:25:24,184 --> 03:25:27,784
to get it released or anything?

2794
03:25:28,770 --> 03:25:30,643
>> We should have those documents released the week

2795
03:25:30,643 --> 03:25:31,708
of august 31st.

2796
03:25:31,708 --> 03:25:34,860
So next week you should see those go out,

2797
03:25:34,860 --> 03:25:37,888
we get the plans back towards the end of last week, one more

2798
03:25:37,888 --> 03:25:41,807
time, tom and his team are taking a look.

2799
03:25:41,807 --> 03:25:45,240
To expedite it usually review is done independently.

2800
03:25:45,240 --> 03:25:47,992
Tom pulled his team together to look at those documents one

2801
03:25:47,992 --> 03:25:52,662
last time so we'll be able to do that quicker.

2802
03:25:52,662 --> 03:25:53,963
>> Wonderful.

2803
03:25:53,963 --> 03:25:57,774
>> You don't need any kind of motion or anything on this

2804
03:25:57,774 --> 03:25:59,774
it's just informatory .

2805
03:26:03,139 --> 03:26:06,739
>> 6H land development regulations revisions high

2806
03:26:07,765 --> 03:26:09,765
density.

2807
03:26:44,107 --> 03:26:46,107
>> Good afternoon .

2808
03:27:01,676 --> 03:27:05,169
This presentation is stemming from an April workshop

2809
03:27:05,169 --> 03:27:08,518
we had where we talked about land development regulations

2810
03:27:08,518 --> 03:27:11,319
and having more consistency with the comprehensive plan

2811
03:27:11,319 --> 03:27:15,774
since we had the appeal about a year ago.

2812
03:27:15,774 --> 03:27:18,647
Those issues were building height residential densities,

2813
03:27:18,647 --> 03:27:21,898
key issues downtown parking and environmental issues

2814
03:27:21,898 --> 03:27:25,883
especially along the waterfront and then historic preservation

2815
03:27:25,883 --> 03:27:30,888
which was discussed earlier today, that's been in the works.

2816
03:27:30,888 --> 03:27:33,442
This one is going to deal specifically

2817
03:27:33,442 --> 03:27:36,576
with some proposals for high density.

2818
03:27:36,576 --> 03:27:40,700
So these are not -- these are thoughts that staff have come up

2819
03:27:40,700 --> 03:27:46,100
with to make a compromise with the previously 2024 code

2820
03:27:47,520 --> 03:27:51,120
and what's in the comp plan.

2821
03:27:55,745 --> 03:27:57,678
Purpose of this update to advance consistency

2822
03:27:57,678 --> 03:27:59,238
with the comprehensive plan.

2823
03:27:59,238 --> 03:28:03,741
That's critical because the code that's in place now,

2824
03:28:03,741 --> 03:28:05,996
it's not consistent with the comprehensive plan

2825
03:28:05,996 --> 03:28:09,169
and that is one of the statute's requirements.

2826
03:28:09,169 --> 03:28:11,632
We have to re-establish the zoning districts to align with

2827
03:28:11,632 --> 03:28:14,632
the future land use categories .

2828
03:28:16,841 --> 03:28:18,509
Provide downtown walkability mixed

2829
03:28:18,509 --> 03:28:21,780
use development preserve neighborhood character,

2830
03:28:21,780 --> 03:28:24,997
promote Amo resiliency and establish development standards

2831
03:28:24,997 --> 03:28:29,197
that balance community concerns and redevelopment community

2832
03:28:30,788 --> 03:28:36,565
spirit I explained earlier this is legacy zoning district don't

2833
03:28:36,565 --> 03:28:39,309
currently align with the land use comprehensive plan

2834
03:28:39,309 --> 03:28:42,309
categories, inconsistent zoning district structure,

2835
03:28:43,955 --> 03:28:48,609
difficult to implement adopted policies of the comp plan.

2836
03:28:48,609 --> 03:28:51,609
Limited form based standards, expressed

2837
03:28:52,243 --> 03:28:56,212
predictable development outcomes and downtown mixed use district,

2838
03:28:56,212 --> 03:28:58,400
clearly differentiated from other districts

2839
03:28:58,400 --> 03:29:01,400
that is currently in place.

2840
03:29:01,875 --> 03:29:07,275
With a previous code it was more directed downtown.

2841
03:29:08,758 --> 03:29:12,119
Our approach here, the current code as mentioned doesn't fully

2842
03:29:12,119 --> 03:29:15,967
implement the comprehensive plan previously adopted 2024 code,

2843
03:29:15,967 --> 03:29:18,874
better implemented the plan but there were

2844
03:29:18,874 --> 03:29:21,499
concerns about issues in building

2845
03:29:21,499 --> 03:29:23,899
height and residential density.

2846
03:29:24,990 --> 03:29:27,897
So we're proposing to restore the regulatory framework

2847
03:29:27,897 --> 03:29:32,697
while reducing the previously adopted high density allowances.

2848
03:29:34,106 --> 03:29:40,706
The charts provided here -- the base density have been reduced,

2849
03:29:44,220 --> 03:29:47,950
more in line with what's in place now,

2850
03:29:47,950 --> 03:29:50,695
though we did allow continued mitigation,

2851
03:29:51,339 --> 03:29:56,739
that's within the 24 elders and mitigation required public space

2852
03:29:57,552 --> 03:30:01,761
or parking allowances and that was part of the negotiated

2853
03:30:01,761 --> 03:30:04,965
agreement so that would allow some flexibility that maybe

2854
03:30:04,965 --> 03:30:07,365
unique designs by developer.

2855
03:30:07,546 --> 03:30:13,770
I should point out this is just your downtown area this

2856
03:30:13,770 --> 03:30:19,770
is fisherman's village, to the previous location for the house

2857
03:30:21,562 --> 03:30:23,341
currently not operating.

2858
03:30:23,341 --> 03:30:28,741
So that's referred to the traditional Punta Gorda area.

2859
03:30:29,807 --> 03:30:34,607
Really the district's name change but the regulations

2860
03:30:34,747 --> 03:30:38,947
didn't change as much in those areas

2861
03:30:39,410 --> 03:30:41,441
outside jurisdictional Punta Gorda.

2862
03:30:53,985 --> 03:30:59,385
>> The two to one mix I don't understand that.

2863
03:31:00,827 --> 03:31:05,627
>> You have to read, set yourself up again.

2864
03:31:06,586 --> 03:31:09,557
>> That's based on a commercial residential mix,

2865
03:31:09,557 --> 03:31:14,957
so it what regulates to commercial units for one

2866
03:31:17,487 --> 03:31:21,870
residential unit based on square footage.

2867
03:31:21,510 --> 03:31:23,416
That's the limiting factor but then

2868
03:31:23,416 --> 03:31:27,160
you still have the height limit.

2869
03:31:27,877 --> 03:31:33,277
Then the setbacks cactus were not altered as much

2870
03:31:35,150 --> 03:31:38,150
on the neighborhood transition it

2871
03:31:38,356 --> 03:31:43,640
was zero to 20 and the proposed to be ten to 20.

2872
03:31:43,640 --> 03:31:46,307
The downtown core is not unlike what you have in the city center

2873
03:31:46,307 --> 03:31:52,907
right now, we have those 010 setbacks I just want to bring

2874
03:31:54,694 --> 03:32:00,660
the density question into some context in some of these

2875
03:32:00,660 --> 03:32:03,600
buildings that exist now.

2876
03:32:04,891 --> 03:32:08,309
Everybody is familiar with the son of center,

2877
03:32:08,309 --> 03:32:12,990
it's a commercial use on first and third floor

2878
03:32:12,990 --> 03:32:14,159
and there are units on the fourth floor.

2879
03:32:14,159 --> 03:32:16,883
For example of the third floor was converted

2880
03:32:16,883 --> 03:32:19,599
from residential use to commercial use that could nearly

2881
03:32:19,599 --> 03:32:22,682
double the density without increasing the building's height

2882
03:32:22,682 --> 03:32:26,704
or footprint this illustrates increasing residential doesn't

2883
03:32:26,704 --> 03:32:29,104
necessarily require larger building

2884
03:32:31,361 --> 03:32:35,561
footprint another example, one story residential building

2885
03:32:37,847 --> 03:32:41,546
similar footprint and height to many single family homes,

2886
03:32:41,546 --> 03:32:45,746
this one is just down the street.

2887
03:32:47,993 --> 03:32:49,410
It looks like a single family home

2888
03:32:49,410 --> 03:32:53,655
from a distance across the street from the three unit,

2889
03:32:53,655 --> 03:32:55,720
provides additional housing choice

2890
03:32:55,720 --> 03:32:58,720
while maintaining traditional neighborhood scale.

2891
03:32:59,900 --> 03:33:01,733
This summer is restoring the zoning framework better aligns

2892
03:33:01,733 --> 03:33:04,112
with the comprehensive plan, reduce

2893
03:33:04,112 --> 03:33:06,480
maximum height residential density permitted

2894
03:33:06,480 --> 03:33:08,783
under the previously adopted 2024 code

2895
03:33:08,783 --> 03:33:11,596
to continue to support downtown redevelopment mixed

2896
03:33:11,596 --> 03:33:14,714
use development okay providing balanced approach

2897
03:33:14,714 --> 03:33:18,229
between the proposed regulations and previously adopted

2898
03:33:18,229 --> 03:33:19,721
2024 standards.

2899
03:33:19,721 --> 03:33:22,448
This is kind of a starting point on that,

2900
03:33:22,448 --> 03:33:24,818
feedback and where we're going because we'll probably

2901
03:33:24,818 --> 03:33:29,158
consolidate these different -- also the parking issue

2902
03:33:29,158 --> 03:33:32,758
the environmental waterfront environmental final proposal,

2903
03:33:34,935 --> 03:33:37,935
that's all I have here.

2904
03:33:42,343 --> 03:33:44,165
>> Questions.

2905
03:33:44,165 --> 03:33:46,650
>> This isn't written in stone, I want to put that

2906
03:33:46,650 --> 03:33:47,569
on the record.

2907
03:33:47,569 --> 03:33:49,760
This is just the avenue that staff

2908
03:33:49,760 --> 03:33:52,205
is taking based on what they heard

2909
03:33:52,205 --> 03:33:55,450
from the community like the one meeting

2910
03:33:55,450 --> 03:33:57,771
we had but obviously we need a lot more meetings

2911
03:33:57,771 --> 03:33:59,683
and I think Mr. Fritz was on the right track

2912
03:33:59,683 --> 03:34:02,905
when he said that today we're going to need more input

2913
03:34:02,905 --> 03:34:07,937
and we do have a flood study and if I'm

2914
03:34:07,937 --> 03:34:10,815
making this decision at all and anybody in the community

2915
03:34:10,815 --> 03:34:12,967
is making this decision, we really

2916
03:34:12,967 --> 03:34:14,900
need to have the facts about that,

2917
03:34:14,900 --> 03:34:20,300
there were 120 some people who were rescued from one

2918
03:34:20,348 --> 03:34:21,553
of the flooding events.

2919
03:34:21,553 --> 03:34:23,970
I think it may have been the first 1I think but that needs

2920
03:34:23,970 --> 03:34:27,363
to be taken into consideration before we even look at density

2921
03:34:27,363 --> 03:34:29,700
or decide on density.

2922
03:34:29,700 --> 03:34:34,413
In my opinion, when you see and try to pull out of your driveway

2923
03:34:34,413 --> 03:34:37,431
and see those rescue trucks coming and picking up people

2924
03:34:37,431 --> 03:34:39,431
it gets real.

2925
03:34:40,758 --> 03:34:43,538
So, you know, this density thing with 25 units an acre

2926
03:34:43,538 --> 03:34:46,310
which is currently in the historic district

2927
03:34:46,310 --> 03:34:50,271
I don't know how it could ever fly but thank you

2928
03:34:50,271 --> 03:34:52,396
for bringing it down to something that is realistic

2929
03:34:52,396 --> 03:34:55,490
and at least looking at that but again,

2930
03:34:55,490 --> 03:34:57,997
I want a lot more input from the citizens

2931
03:34:57,997 --> 03:35:00,277
before I speak and step on anyone's toes

2932
03:35:00,277 --> 03:35:02,353
because I feel like this is really

2933
03:35:02,353 --> 03:35:05,522
going to be a big decision.

2934
03:35:05,522 --> 03:35:08,370
Again thank you for your presentation and staff,

2935
03:35:08,370 --> 03:35:12,570
that you are hearing us, appreciate that .

2936
03:35:16,229 --> 03:35:18,238
>> Are you going to press it?

2937
03:35:18,238 --> 03:35:23,380
I do have a pretty good concern here

2938
03:35:23,364 --> 03:35:27,169
like I know the comprehensive plan had

2939
03:35:27,169 --> 03:35:28,773
a lot of this traditional thing you

2940
03:35:28,773 --> 03:35:31,398
were talking about which seems to be the focus of everything we

2941
03:35:31,398 --> 03:35:35,536
are doing here and I know the room was

2942
03:35:35,536 --> 03:35:38,310
filled with people who didn't want the comprehensive plan.

2943
03:35:38,310 --> 03:35:40,512
Didn't want the elders and comprehensive plan.

2944
03:35:40,512 --> 03:35:45,217
Now we're facing this but let me tell you, even with what you're

2945
03:35:45,217 --> 03:35:49,733
saying, if you're looking at the changes of the 2024 charter

2946
03:35:49,733 --> 03:35:52,757
to state this before the comprehensive plan was approved,

2947
03:35:52,757 --> 03:35:55,544
did you know that Make her village is not

2948
03:35:55,544 --> 03:35:57,790
in the comprehensive plan?

2949
03:35:57,790 --> 03:36:00,820
Neighborhood transition is not in the comprehensive Plan.

2950
03:36:00,820 --> 03:36:03,159
Residential edge is not in a comprehensive plan.

2951
03:36:03,159 --> 03:36:06,577
Traditional residential is not in the comprehensive plan

2952
03:36:06,577 --> 03:36:09,577
and we must do commercial.

2953
03:36:12,920 --> 03:36:15,920
In 2022 with the elders complaint

2954
03:36:15,502 --> 03:36:17,718
states that transitional neighborhood,

2955
03:36:17,718 --> 03:36:19,281
not traditional residential.

2956
03:36:19,281 --> 03:36:20,742
So I think there's a lot of issues

2957
03:36:20,742 --> 03:36:22,686
and these are the things I try to talk about back then.

2958
03:36:22,686 --> 03:36:24,610
S o it sounds like we really need

2959
03:36:24,610 --> 03:36:28,311
to have a comprehensive plan that is accurate with what we're

2960
03:36:28,311 --> 03:36:30,906
looking for here I agree we need to have

2961
03:36:30,906 --> 03:36:33,682
the public input, especially with the residents downtown

2962
03:36:33,682 --> 03:36:36,556
because this whole traditional point guard really

2963
03:36:36,556 --> 03:36:38,956
relies on downtown residents.

2964
03:36:39,825 --> 03:36:42,713
We had the one time, the one meeting where people didn't want

2965
03:36:42,713 --> 03:36:45,653
duplexes and it was already a mixed use street

2966
03:36:45,653 --> 03:36:47,735
and the residents downtown who are building

2967
03:36:47,735 --> 03:36:50,674
the single family homes want duplexes

2968
03:36:50,674 --> 03:36:52,800
and triplexes next to them?

2969
03:36:52,800 --> 03:36:54,828
We have to have that input.

2970
03:36:54,828 --> 03:36:56,614
Again I agree with you Jeanine.

2971
03:36:56,614 --> 03:36:58,987
I don't think about flooding study.

2972
03:36:58,987 --> 03:37:02,915
We have to have that to see what we're doing.

2973
03:37:02,915 --> 03:37:04,540
I think like Greg was saying, we should

2974
03:37:04,540 --> 03:37:08,220
be looking at some of the easier articles of the land development

2975
03:37:08,220 --> 03:37:10,747
regulation that are not more burdensome

2976
03:37:10,747 --> 03:37:13,912
because even with the mitigation and stuff in farm base,

2977
03:37:13,912 --> 03:37:15,710
that is more burdensome.

2978
03:37:15,710 --> 03:37:18,476
S o we have to be careful how we're doing it

2979
03:37:18,476 --> 03:37:22,930
but I think some getting the easier articles

2980
03:37:22,930 --> 03:37:27,630
of the 2022 versus 2024 like we could do several of them that

2981
03:37:27,630 --> 03:37:30,879
are very similar, we just have some discussion with some

2982
03:37:30,879 --> 03:37:32,442
of them are awarded.

2983
03:37:32,442 --> 03:37:36,891
In the meantime let's look at the first element, future land

2984
03:37:36,891 --> 03:37:39,687
use of comprehensive plan and let's see

2985
03:37:39,687 --> 03:37:42,919
do we want that many zonings?

2986
03:37:42,919 --> 03:37:45,239
Adding all the extra zonings, there's

2987
03:37:45,239 --> 03:37:48,492
liability to city and staff to make mistakes accidentally

2988
03:37:48,492 --> 03:37:50,750
because on this one side of the street

2989
03:37:50,750 --> 03:37:53,487
you have higher density higher height.

2990
03:37:53,487 --> 03:37:57,599
Oops we made a mistake and somewhere in these litigations,

2991
03:37:57,599 --> 03:38:02,149
I really do think, let's find these easier LDR,

2992
03:38:02,149 --> 03:38:04,814
let's work on them and get a definitive date

2993
03:38:04,814 --> 03:38:09,181
to say we're going to work on article one, two, four

2994
03:38:09,181 --> 03:38:12,785
and five, how many we can handle in a meeting.

2995
03:38:12,785 --> 03:38:15,320
Get those set aside and in the meantime let's look

2996
03:38:15,320 --> 03:38:19,819
at the comprehensive plan and really make the map when future

2997
03:38:19,819 --> 03:38:24,190
land use because if you're looking --

2998
03:38:24,487 --> 03:38:28,687
we have 21.9 males 15.5, six males is watery.

2999
03:38:30,100 --> 03:38:33,800
They don't expect the increase of population to go up very many

3000
03:38:33,800 --> 03:38:36,712
and we need to concentrate on our east side, that's

3001
03:38:36,712 --> 03:38:39,129
why I think this conservation with the park and everything

3002
03:38:39,129 --> 03:38:40,757
is wonderful.

3003
03:38:40,757 --> 03:38:43,665
Our concentration shouldn't be on the west side it should be

3004
03:38:43,665 --> 03:38:46,967
more focusing on the east side park I hope everybody agrees

3005
03:38:46,967 --> 03:38:50,427
with that that's what we want we want our city to grow but we

3006
03:38:50,427 --> 03:38:52,927
need to have the growth on the east side because we're doing

3007
03:38:52,927 --> 03:38:56,275
great development and plus the comprehensive plan is also

3008
03:38:56,275 --> 03:38:59,567
inaccurate because it used even when they were talking about

3009
03:38:59,567 --> 03:39:04,508
annexing, they use the John slope areas as commercial and we

3010
03:39:04,508 --> 03:39:07,380
know how -- that change for residential.

3011
03:39:07,380 --> 03:39:09,547
So there are issues even with the comprehensive plan

3012
03:39:09,547 --> 03:39:11,469
that was done in the future land use

3013
03:39:11,469 --> 03:39:15,180
and I think we need to correct those issues because I think

3014
03:39:15,180 --> 03:39:18,200
it will be more of a realistic workshop

3015
03:39:18,200 --> 03:39:22,202
then we can have other residents residents.

3016
03:39:30,590 --> 03:39:30,559
Thank you.

3017
03:39:30,559 --> 03:39:33,559
>> Those are really important comments.

3018
03:39:33,580 --> 03:39:36,689
I think simplifying those zones would be very helpful.

3019
03:39:36,689 --> 03:39:40,583
Like you said, so much interpretation with staff,

3020
03:39:40,583 --> 03:39:42,160
something more simple would be great

3021
03:39:42,160 --> 03:39:45,594
and this is just a small point, but when I saw 1 to 10,

3022
03:39:45,594 --> 03:39:50,394
I know we're developing this but 1 to 10 feet

3023
03:39:50,897 --> 03:39:52,539
in the downtown core for setbacks.

3024
03:39:52,539 --> 03:39:54,300
Then we have people who want little tables

3025
03:39:54,300 --> 03:39:58,508
and you can't get a walk by get a loaner wheelchair.

3026
03:39:58,508 --> 03:40:01,368
So if we could have higher setbacks without hurting

3027
03:40:01,368 --> 03:40:05,866
the builder, because every foot they buy matters --

3028
03:40:05,866 --> 03:40:09,724
to have some vegetation kick some trees, planters,

3029
03:40:09,724 --> 03:40:12,765
I look at some of the beauty they have on their streets,

3030
03:40:12,765 --> 03:40:16,907
they have wide sidewalks and then you can have the tables

3031
03:40:16,907 --> 03:40:19,907
and chairs and it works.

3032
03:40:20,207 --> 03:40:22,607
So something to consider.

3033
03:40:23,883 --> 03:40:26,361
And then of course the parking lot --

3034
03:40:26,361 --> 03:40:30,596
what about this two to one dot Greg mentioned?

3035
03:40:30,596 --> 03:40:35,396
Give me an example how that would apply.

3036
03:40:35,958 --> 03:40:41,360
Because finding two businesses that want to open in order

3037
03:40:41,360 --> 03:40:47,240
for person -- residents I don't know how that would work.

3038
03:40:47,240 --> 03:40:49,880
>> Mixed use development as proposed,

3039
03:40:49,880 --> 03:40:52,655
they're going to construct a building and have to set aside

3040
03:40:52,655 --> 03:40:58,655
a commercial space without being in residential space as part

3041
03:40:58,694 --> 03:40:59,753
of the design.

3042
03:40:59,753 --> 03:41:05,753
So it would be -- definitely be market research determine

3043
03:41:07,862 --> 03:41:11,462
whether it can fill the spaces .

3044
03:41:20,687 --> 03:41:22,109
>> Thank you.

3045
03:41:22,109 --> 03:41:26,845
>> Mixed use can be very difficult to ask of someone

3046
03:41:26,845 --> 03:41:30,563
because not everyone wants to live above a bar or restaurant.

3047
03:41:30,563 --> 03:41:34,163
I t takes a special person.

3048
03:41:35,328 --> 03:41:41,182
That's great if you have a lot of high traffic city area here

3049
03:41:41,182 --> 03:41:44,861
people in New York City live in mixed use downstairs

3050
03:41:44,861 --> 03:41:49,425
and upstairs, living areas and then the downstairs is not.

3051
03:41:49,425 --> 03:41:52,965
Is that really realistic for our city,

3052
03:41:52,965 --> 03:41:55,313
mostly retired people up here I don't know,

3053
03:41:55,313 --> 03:42:00,692
I think it works for some that are already downtown, but again,

3054
03:42:00,692 --> 03:42:04,659
this is a conversation to be had by the citizens,

3055
03:42:04,659 --> 03:42:08,790
also the complaint here point, Mayor Lux,

3056
03:42:08,790 --> 03:42:13,655
I think that's going to in the end get us a comp plan is what

3057
03:42:13,655 --> 03:42:17,764
most developers will be looking at to guide them and then they

3058
03:42:17,764 --> 03:42:22,578
look at the land development regulations that are supposed

3059
03:42:22,578 --> 03:42:28,637
to be for -- contiguous and are supposed to be the same.

3060
03:42:28,637 --> 03:42:31,291
So the future land use map is really

3061
03:42:31,291 --> 03:42:34,620
what's going to need to be changed because if you're still

3062
03:42:34,620 --> 03:42:35,975
on your future land use map have 25 units

3063
03:42:35,975 --> 03:42:39,331
or 50 units per acre it doesn't matter what your land

3064
03:42:39,331 --> 03:42:41,331
development regulations say.

3065
03:42:41,960 --> 03:42:44,736
That's the bible that's what you go by.

3066
03:42:44,736 --> 03:42:46,673
From what I understand, and Rachel

3067
03:42:46,673 --> 03:42:48,174
you can correct me if I'm wrong, I

3068
03:42:48,174 --> 03:42:51,675
would never want a developer to come along and go

3069
03:42:51,675 --> 03:42:54,418
your comp plan says this and I think that's what

3070
03:42:54,418 --> 03:42:55,951
we're running into now.

3071
03:42:55,951 --> 03:42:57,951
So do we change the land development regulations

3072
03:42:57,951 --> 03:43:00,501
and then back the comprehensive plan into that

3073
03:43:00,501 --> 03:43:03,366
or do we change the comp plan?

3074
03:43:03,366 --> 03:43:07,811
I'm sure this is a dilemma this staff talked about a bazillion

3075
03:43:07,811 --> 03:43:10,641
times here but kicking that around, I

3076
03:43:10,641 --> 03:43:13,657
think the citizens need to understand that.

3077
03:43:13,657 --> 03:43:17,129
The comp plan is what's going to drive this land development

3078
03:43:17,129 --> 03:43:18,309
regulations.

3079
03:43:18,309 --> 03:43:20,309
Thank you .

3080
03:43:21,637 --> 03:43:23,694
>> I wanted to add two things.

3081
03:43:23,694 --> 03:43:26,307
To answer your question about mixed use development,

3082
03:43:26,307 --> 03:43:30,380
we currently have a development plan application on file.

3083
03:43:30,380 --> 03:43:34,454
The ground level is going to be parking underneath the building.

3084
03:43:34,454 --> 03:43:38,778
The second floor is proposed to be retail third floor office

3085
03:43:38,778 --> 03:43:42,942
and the top would have eight residential units.

3086
03:43:42,942 --> 03:43:45,621
So basically the square footage of the residential units

3087
03:43:45,621 --> 03:43:48,988
is half of the square footage of the commercial units.

3088
03:43:48,988 --> 03:43:52,558
So that's how they're working that project together.

3089
03:43:52,558 --> 03:43:54,663
Would be the same for the same building.

3090
03:43:54,663 --> 03:43:57,343
They have the two floors of commercial and then one

3091
03:43:57,343 --> 03:43:58,102
residential.

3092
03:43:58,102 --> 03:44:02,902
That's where the two to one came from.

3093
03:44:07,279 --> 03:44:11,630
>> Like Janine said, people don't want to live downtown,

3094
03:44:11,630 --> 03:44:13,587
they want residential retirement life.

3095
03:44:13,587 --> 03:44:17,615
Is it a development if there aren't people

3096
03:44:17,615 --> 03:44:21,253
who want to live in the core of a building

3097
03:44:21,253 --> 03:44:23,753
has businesses and music and stuff.

3098
03:44:23,753 --> 03:44:28,941
I s it required for it to be optional?

3099
03:44:28,941 --> 03:44:30,540
We have to think about it anyway.

3100
03:44:30,540 --> 03:44:33,552
What's going to work for developers and residents

3101
03:44:33,552 --> 03:44:35,354
might live somewhere.

3102
03:44:35,354 --> 03:44:38,882
>> Everything feasibility study, is that what you're getting at?

3103
03:44:38,882 --> 03:44:40,301
I'm not sure.

3104
03:44:40,301 --> 03:44:43,308
>> Are we committed to the mixed use?

3105
03:44:43,308 --> 03:44:46,748
Is that something we can talk about?

3106
03:44:46,748 --> 03:44:51,140
Isn't that part of what the LDR were discussing.

3107
03:44:51,140 --> 03:44:53,712
>> I think that's what the residents --

3108
03:44:53,712 --> 03:44:56,112
>> I like their input.

3109
03:44:56,935 --> 03:45:05,828
>> So Janine you want to go next or do you want to let Rachel go?

3110
03:45:05,828 --> 03:45:11,914
>> To answer the first question, the mixed use currently is used

3111
03:45:11,914 --> 03:45:13,186
permitted with conditions.

3112
03:45:13,186 --> 03:45:14,635
It's not required.

3113
03:45:14,635 --> 03:45:18,850
So they could just do pure commercial.

3114
03:45:18,850 --> 03:45:20,138
But if they want to do mixed use,

3115
03:45:20,138 --> 03:45:24,938
they're capped at half residential to the commercial.

3116
03:45:27,920 --> 03:45:33,920
The comprehensive plan, when the form based code 2024tpg code,

3117
03:45:35,719 --> 03:45:39,113
when that was in place, there were specific provisions

3118
03:45:39,113 --> 03:45:42,132
in there that you could not apply for a planned development

3119
03:45:42,132 --> 03:45:46,229
in that area that's whatever the regulations in the code were,

3120
03:45:46,229 --> 03:45:48,175
that was your cap.

3121
03:45:48,175 --> 03:45:51,226
Right now, with that not being in the code,

3122
03:45:51,226 --> 03:45:53,780
someone could apply for a plan development

3123
03:45:53,780 --> 03:45:58,500
to go up to the densities in the comprehensive plan.

3124
03:45:58,500 --> 03:46:00,902
So we do have an option of when the elders are rewritten

3125
03:46:00,902 --> 03:46:04,199
to add that cap back in there to say you can't do a planned

3126
03:46:04,199 --> 03:46:06,599
development in these areas.

3127
03:46:07,145 --> 03:46:09,930
Whatever density is in that zoning designation,

3128
03:46:09,930 --> 03:46:13,530
the density of that zoning designation .

3129
03:46:22,550 --> 03:46:26,475
>> Can we get it clear on the work code when the date is,

3130
03:46:26,475 --> 03:46:27,428
when the.

3131
03:46:27,428 --> 03:46:32,228
>> SPEAKER-01: 80 will be completed and we can make

3132
03:46:32,958 --> 03:46:38,358
changes that the public wants to see being made.

3133
03:46:38,522 --> 03:46:40,522
>> Go ahead .

3134
03:46:47,939 --> 03:46:49,341
>> There we go.

3135
03:46:49,341 --> 03:46:51,341
>> Currently it's October 2027.

3136
03:46:55,126 --> 03:46:58,663
>> Did you just say something that might be extended?

3137
03:46:58,663 --> 03:47:01,663
That's another concern for us.

3138
03:47:03,970 --> 03:47:05,680
I still think we need to really look at the comprehensive plan

3139
03:47:05,680 --> 03:47:08,290
right now as our guide.

3140
03:47:08,290 --> 03:47:12,109
That's our master guideline and I really think we need to focus

3141
03:47:12,109 --> 03:47:15,613
on -- with some of these, even when we do the articles like

3142
03:47:15,613 --> 03:47:19,755
something might be more -- a form based code is more

3143
03:47:19,755 --> 03:47:22,511
burdensome but we really have to take a look at --

3144
03:47:22,511 --> 03:47:26,479
even a sideline, this is what we're going to accept if this is

3145
03:47:26,479 --> 03:47:31,879
lifted, we can talk about implementing these other things.

3146
03:47:33,157 --> 03:47:36,109
>> One more point to make.

3147
03:47:36,109 --> 03:47:40,370
As of right now our code is not consistent with the comp

3148
03:47:40,370 --> 03:47:43,779
plan, the zoning districts with the land use districts,

3149
03:47:43,779 --> 03:47:47,770
so it's an issue we have to deal with the state

3150
03:47:47,770 --> 03:47:50,542
actually requires some type of schedule.

3151
03:47:50,542 --> 03:47:54,616
Our thought going back to April was a lot of time and expense

3152
03:47:54,616 --> 03:47:58,110
went into the comp plan that is currently in place.

3153
03:47:58,110 --> 03:48:02,464
Just two and a half years ago, so the more efficient fix

3154
03:48:02,464 --> 03:48:07,135
was to modify the elders to make them fit the comp plan

3155
03:48:07,135 --> 03:48:10,400
but if you want to go all over again,

3156
03:48:10,400 --> 03:48:11,332
that's going to take more time.

3157
03:48:11,332 --> 03:48:13,468
I just wanted to bring that.

3158
03:48:13,468 --> 03:48:16,481
>> Only looking at the first article at the first 37 pages

3159
03:48:16,481 --> 03:48:20,461
not the whole 1200 pages so it really is as expensive

3160
03:48:20,461 --> 03:48:24,960
or thoughtful and even with what you proposed it doesn't match

3161
03:48:24,960 --> 03:48:25,540
the comprehensive plan.

3162
03:48:25,540 --> 03:48:27,221
So that's what I'm saying if we're going to describe

3163
03:48:27,221 --> 03:48:31,884
the comprehensive plan and we're going to have to revise revise

3164
03:48:31,884 --> 03:48:34,884
it correctly the first time .

3165
03:48:43,364 --> 03:48:47,365
>> I was going to say, we have to be consistent at implementing

3166
03:48:47,365 --> 03:48:52,592
the goals of the policy, doesn't have to be a match to the 50

3167
03:48:52,592 --> 03:48:55,889
units per acre or whatever is in the comp plan.

3168
03:48:55,889 --> 03:48:58,655
So there's some flexibility there.

3169
03:48:58,655 --> 03:49:01,371
>> I'll give this to you so you can see what I'm talking about

3170
03:49:01,371 --> 03:49:05,225
it really is consistent even with what was just proposed here

3171
03:49:05,225 --> 03:49:06,491
with the comp plan.

3172
03:49:06,491 --> 03:49:10,415
That might help and what I can do is maybe clean this up I can

3173
03:49:10,415 --> 03:49:15,815
give it to you so everybody can see this .

3174
03:49:20,778 --> 03:49:22,557
.

3175
03:49:22,557 --> 03:49:24,557
Greg ?

3176
03:49:27,470 --> 03:49:29,857
>> I think we need a consensus because sometimes this is what

3177
03:49:29,857 --> 03:49:33,126
is happening to us I found in past meetings that we don't give

3178
03:49:33,126 --> 03:49:33,855
proper direction.

3179
03:49:33,855 --> 03:49:35,450
I think this is so important for us

3180
03:49:35,450 --> 03:49:38,143
to give direction to staff because sometimes they

3181
03:49:38,143 --> 03:49:40,604
hear things and we if we had a consensus on it

3182
03:49:40,604 --> 03:49:42,521
and not talking about it like they're not sure

3183
03:49:42,521 --> 03:49:47,930
if it's just me saying it or if it's saying it

3184
03:49:47,930 --> 03:49:49,140
so we do need a consensus.

3185
03:49:49,140 --> 03:49:53,136
I would love somebody to say let's take a look at the land

3186
03:49:53,136 --> 03:49:55,324
element of the comprehensive plan,

3187
03:49:55,324 --> 03:49:57,879
that the way the residents wanted, not the way I wanted,

3188
03:49:57,879 --> 03:50:00,133
not the way anybody else here wants it but the way

3189
03:50:00,133 --> 03:50:03,120
the residents want it so we have --

3190
03:50:03,120 --> 03:50:06,723
like I said I'll provide this and then have workshops and what

3191
03:50:06,723 --> 03:50:09,318
I was suggesting and Greg suggested earlier,

3192
03:50:09,318 --> 03:50:13,232
let's get the easier articles of land development regulations out

3193
03:50:13,232 --> 03:50:15,232
of the way .

3194
03:50:19,236 --> 03:50:22,254
>> I'm in favor for having more discussion on this

3195
03:50:22,254 --> 03:50:26,774
and definitely we're going to have to change the comp plan.

3196
03:50:26,774 --> 03:50:29,316
I don't know why that hasn't been in the process

3197
03:50:29,316 --> 03:50:32,916
yet because it is one map.

3198
03:50:34,575 --> 03:50:39,573
The community overall didn't agree with and it was pushed.

3199
03:50:39,573 --> 03:50:42,432
So I'm in agreement with you I think we should have at least

3200
03:50:42,432 --> 03:50:44,173
some sort of --

3201
03:50:44,173 --> 03:50:48,409
I. don't know if you want to call it town hall meetings

3202
03:50:48,409 --> 03:50:52,900
or whatever meetings to get information

3203
03:50:52,614 --> 03:50:56,557
from everybody in the community to have their say.

3204
03:50:56,557 --> 03:50:57,832
Should be the complaint.

3205
03:50:57,832 --> 03:50:59,832
I think people need to understand the difference

3206
03:50:59,832 --> 03:51:01,828
between comp plan and land use.

3207
03:51:01,828 --> 03:51:04,885
L ike I said before the Land development regulation that's

3208
03:51:04,885 --> 03:51:10,285
another thing we need to educate the community on.

3209
03:51:11,305 --> 03:51:14,948
>> I like the idea of public discussion and input as soon

3210
03:51:14,948 --> 03:51:19,292
as possible even though we do have quite a bit of time.

3211
03:51:19,292 --> 03:51:23,492
If we change the comp plan --

3212
03:51:24,100 --> 03:51:27,900
I would like the input on if you think simplifying the zoning

3213
03:51:27,900 --> 03:51:31,569
and all the different -- all the different things would be

3214
03:51:31,569 --> 03:51:34,357
beneficial for you and for the community.

3215
03:51:34,357 --> 03:51:35,919
So you don't have to tell us now,

3216
03:51:35,919 --> 03:51:39,171
but is everybody okay with that if they look at that?

3217
03:51:39,171 --> 03:51:41,522
Simplifying things a little?

3218
03:51:41,522 --> 03:51:43,922
Those are my comments.

3219
03:51:48,137 --> 03:51:50,512
>> I think if we want to have effective workshops we need

3220
03:51:50,512 --> 03:51:53,477
to not do them in the format we tried the last couple of times

3221
03:51:53,477 --> 03:51:57,328
in order to accommodate the law because it simply isn't working

3222
03:51:57,328 --> 03:52:00,536
where you all sit on the dais and then people aren't sure when

3223
03:52:00,536 --> 03:52:02,859
they're supposed to come and when they're not supposed

3224
03:52:02,859 --> 03:52:03,636
to come.

3225
03:52:03,636 --> 03:52:06,644
We really need to have that interactive type session

3226
03:52:06,644 --> 03:52:10,446
that we did back when we did the city wide master plan, that

3227
03:52:10,446 --> 03:52:13,281
would involve all of you not necessarily being involved

3228
03:52:13,281 --> 03:52:16,612
in all those conversations but the information we would

3229
03:52:16,612 --> 03:52:19,105
probably work with a partner to do that.

3230
03:52:19,105 --> 03:52:23,575
T he information would come back to you synthesised.

3231
03:52:23,575 --> 03:52:26,527
You're welcome to attend but really the focus would

3232
03:52:26,527 --> 03:52:28,569
be on the residents and you would allow the staff

3233
03:52:28,569 --> 03:52:32,271
to do dual listening for you from their residents

3234
03:52:32,271 --> 03:52:33,813
and bring that data back to you where

3235
03:52:33,813 --> 03:52:35,752
you could discuss on this dais.

3236
03:52:35,752 --> 03:52:37,414
That would be my recommendation on how

3237
03:52:37,414 --> 03:52:40,414
to move forward with workshops.

3238
03:52:42,144 --> 03:52:46,816
>> Is there an opportunity for some kind of a questionnaire

3239
03:52:46,816 --> 03:52:50,952
or something that people can do electronically online if they

3240
03:52:50,952 --> 03:52:53,325
can't make it to the meeting?

3241
03:52:53,325 --> 03:52:54,814
Did they do --

3242
03:52:54,814 --> 03:52:58,414
I. thought they tallied up votes.

3243
03:52:59,663 --> 03:53:01,913
>> We would have the ability through our website to do

3244
03:53:01,913 --> 03:53:02,413
a survey.

3245
03:53:02,413 --> 03:53:05,124
We can do a SurveyMonkey.

3246
03:53:05,124 --> 03:53:08,514
We're limited -- we can drive people to the website that

3247
03:53:08,514 --> 03:53:11,460
aren't necessarily subscribed to any of our newsletters or things

3248
03:53:11,460 --> 03:53:16,743
but we can definitely push that survey out to residents that are

3249
03:53:16,743 --> 03:53:17,243
registered.

3250
03:53:17,243 --> 03:53:21,982
W e have a lot of people that are in that database period

3251
03:53:21,982 --> 03:53:25,691
the only disclaimer I'll give to that is that there are people

3252
03:53:25,691 --> 03:53:29,974
that don't actually live within the city limits of Punta Gorda.

3253
03:53:29,974 --> 03:53:33,574
That would receive that survey also.

3254
03:53:35,108 --> 03:53:40,508
>> One of the things -- the comprehensive plan regulation,

3255
03:53:41,530 --> 03:53:44,329
I think we're still going to be under 26000,

3256
03:53:44,329 --> 03:53:47,929
47% of our city is in conservation.

3257
03:53:48,621 --> 03:53:51,660
When you think about it we don't have a whole lot.

3258
03:53:51,660 --> 03:53:57,600
How we're developing again -- that's why we need

3259
03:54:06,178 --> 03:54:09,773
to concentrate on the east side of 41.

3260
03:54:09,773 --> 03:54:11,240
I think this is really good.

3261
03:54:11,240 --> 03:54:12,691
Again I'm going to give this information

3262
03:54:12,691 --> 03:54:15,790
but I would like to see a time.

3263
03:54:15,790 --> 03:54:17,660
Can we get a specific time frame for let's work

3264
03:54:17,660 --> 03:54:19,313
on the other articles?

3265
03:54:19,313 --> 03:54:22,419
Is that okay with everybody to work on the other articles that

3266
03:54:22,419 --> 03:54:24,448
are not more burdensome?

3267
03:54:24,448 --> 03:54:28,437
Let's start getting stuff done so it doesn't look like we're

3268
03:54:28,437 --> 03:54:30,895
getting this stuff done so we don't always look like we are

3269
03:54:30,895 --> 03:54:32,160
delaying, delay and, delaying.

3270
03:54:32,160 --> 03:54:34,327
And let's also take a look at the comprehensive plan

3271
03:54:34,327 --> 03:54:36,455
to make sure that those first 87 pages

3272
03:54:36,455 --> 03:54:41,399
with the map and these major guidelines is for us.

3273
03:54:41,399 --> 03:54:43,975
Let's make sure it's well within what the residents want.

3274
03:54:43,975 --> 03:54:46,170
We can probably direct some of it through traffic

3275
03:54:46,170 --> 03:54:49,617
and then have residents finish it.

3276
03:54:56,847 --> 03:54:58,739
>> I just want to clarify.

3277
03:54:58,739 --> 03:55:02,119
I don't want to have us go through the exercise of putting

3278
03:55:02,119 --> 03:55:04,419
these items on an agenda and then

3279
03:55:04,419 --> 03:55:07,367
City Council say well we haven't had enough resident input.

3280
03:55:07,367 --> 03:55:10,715
Would you like us to schedule the workshops?

3281
03:55:10,715 --> 03:55:13,687
And then after each of those workshops that is when

3282
03:55:13,687 --> 03:55:15,352
you would discuss the item?

3283
03:55:15,352 --> 03:55:17,757
Or how would you like that?

3284
03:55:17,757 --> 03:55:20,801
And we can't just pull the workshop next week.

3285
03:55:20,801 --> 03:55:23,783
It will take some time to put the schedule in place

3286
03:55:23,783 --> 03:55:26,841
and have things ready for you.

3287
03:55:26,841 --> 03:55:29,870
>> I think some of it is language between the two

3288
03:55:29,870 --> 03:55:29,656
of them.

3289
03:55:29,656 --> 03:55:31,679
But I agree, I think workshop.

3290
03:55:31,679 --> 03:55:34,358
And in the meantime everyone, if they

3291
03:55:34,358 --> 03:55:36,175
are looking at these different articles,

3292
03:55:36,175 --> 03:55:38,305
just give our suggestions independently.

3293
03:55:38,305 --> 03:55:39,930
That might help as well.

3294
03:55:39,930 --> 03:55:42,132
I know when I had my town hall I presented

3295
03:55:42,132 --> 03:55:44,768
a lot of what the residents wanted through that.

3296
03:55:44,768 --> 03:55:49,230
I think that if we kind of direct it and then let

3297
03:55:49,230 --> 03:55:53,175
the residents decide, I think that's what is most important.

3298
03:55:53,175 --> 03:55:55,855
>> I would also like to say on the record,

3299
03:55:55,855 --> 03:55:59,660
maybe Rachel Berry could give you this explanation,

3300
03:55:59,660 --> 03:56:02,447
but there's a lot of development going on right now.

3301
03:56:02,447 --> 03:56:04,535
And anyone saying that the Land development

3302
03:56:04,535 --> 03:56:06,388
regulations are holding up development,

3303
03:56:06,388 --> 03:56:08,607
that is absolutely wrong.

3304
03:56:08,607 --> 03:56:12,335
So I don't feel like even though we are in limbo here,

3305
03:56:12,335 --> 03:56:15,595
it doesn't feel like, to me, but maybe Rachel

3306
03:56:15,595 --> 03:56:16,935
can correct me if I'm wrong.

3307
03:56:16,935 --> 03:56:19,807
It doesn't feel like we are holding anything up.

3308
03:56:19,807 --> 03:56:22,735
I am maybe hearing that properties

3309
03:56:22,735 --> 03:56:25,263
have sold at our commercial right now in downtown

3310
03:56:25,263 --> 03:56:27,879
and people are getting ready to develop on it.

3311
03:56:27,879 --> 03:56:30,741
So interesting that that is what is happening.

3312
03:56:30,741 --> 03:56:37,941
I'm sure it can all come to fruition from this young lady.

3313
03:56:39,875 --> 03:56:42,375
>> So actually just the other day I looked back at the total

3314
03:56:42,375 --> 03:56:45,410
number of development applications received

3315
03:56:45,410 --> 03:56:50,441
for calendar year 2025, and we currently in calendar year 2026

3316
03:56:51,559 --> 03:56:55,535
have more applications on file than we did all of 2025.

3317
03:56:55,535 --> 03:56:59,755
So we are not necessarily seeing a decrease in activity.

3318
03:56:59,755 --> 03:57:03,521
But there are certain parcels that may have issues

3319
03:57:03,521 --> 03:57:06,750
that they want to redevelop.

3320
03:57:06,750 --> 03:57:09,810
But currently the vacant parcels that we are seeing we

3321
03:57:09,810 --> 03:57:12,681
are still getting applications coming in.

3322
03:57:13,568 --> 03:57:15,235
>> Do you have enough direction from us?

3323
03:57:15,235 --> 03:57:16,145
Okay, fantastic.

3324
03:57:16,145 --> 03:57:19,745
Let's go ahead and move forward.

3325
03:57:29,181 --> 03:57:33,981
>> Agenda item six I quarterly revenue and expenditure

3326
03:57:35,841 --> 03:57:37,841
financial update.

3327
03:57:38,241 --> 03:57:40,241
>> Oh, sorry.

3328
03:57:41,389 --> 03:57:42,847
>> Good afternoon finance director,

3329
03:57:42,847 --> 03:57:47,559
we are bringing you our third quarter update for our major

3330
03:57:47,559 --> 03:57:51,456
funds, we provided them all in the packet,

3331
03:57:51,456 --> 03:57:54,783
there were 15 funds going over in total.

3332
03:57:54,783 --> 03:57:57,696
We have general funds coming this is 75% of the year,

3333
03:57:57,696 --> 03:58:01,650
so this is through June 30th of 2026.

3334
03:58:01,650 --> 03:58:06,465
So for the revenue we are at approximately almost $31.9

3335
03:58:06,799 --> 03:58:09,799
million that has come in.

3336
03:58:11,323 --> 03:58:14,266
Oh I'm sorry, oh yes.

3337
03:58:14,266 --> 03:58:16,985
And at 25.4 million of expenditure,

3338
03:58:16,985 --> 03:58:20,585
so we are exceeding the expenditures.

3339
03:58:21,815 --> 03:58:24,870
One thing I would like to note, and you may remember from

3340
03:58:24,870 --> 03:58:29,268
our past discussions, that on our expenditures and especially

3341
03:58:29,268 --> 03:58:32,175
our operating expenditures we are always a month behind,

3342
03:58:32,175 --> 03:58:34,175
because our --

3343
03:58:34,175 --> 03:58:36,887
like our October invoices are genuine --

3344
03:58:36,887 --> 03:58:38,363
generally played in November.

3345
03:58:38,363 --> 03:58:41,700
And so then at the end you have two months where you accrue

3346
03:58:41,700 --> 03:58:45,535
the final month back to the correct official -- fiscal year.

3347
03:58:45,535 --> 03:58:48,950
We are doing well there.

3348
03:58:48,950 --> 03:58:51,375
Did you have questions on the general fund?

3349
03:58:51,375 --> 03:58:57,214
And then we have our PGE, we are at approximately $7.3 million

3350
03:58:57,214 --> 03:59:00,814
of revenue collected, 6.3 million of expenditures.

3351
03:59:01,935 --> 03:59:03,567
Exceeding at this point in time.

3352
03:59:03,567 --> 03:59:07,879
We have budgets for items that have not been completely

3353
03:59:07,879 --> 03:59:13,355
spent yet, so we often do show you the encumbrances as well.

3354
03:59:13,355 --> 03:59:15,903
Those encumbrances, if they are not fully spent sometimes

3355
03:59:15,903 --> 03:59:17,908
they are carried over if they're like a purchase

3356
03:59:17,908 --> 03:59:18,825
order for commitments.

3357
03:59:18,825 --> 03:59:22,583
If they are a blanket purchase order those go back to the fund,

3358
03:59:22,583 --> 03:59:25,583
they do not carry over.

3359
03:59:28,550 --> 03:59:32,255
The, $1.1 million, expended as of June 30th,

3360
03:59:34,255 --> 03:59:37,799
only 142,000 of expenditures, I think they are kind of just

3361
03:59:37,799 --> 03:59:42,950
getting started on some of those projects for the year.

3362
03:59:42,950 --> 03:59:45,695
They do have encumbrances of over 800,000,

3363
03:59:49,295 --> 03:59:52,895
especially for their -- regular program.

3364
03:59:56,895 --> 03:59:59,565
Going on to the special use fund,

3365
03:59:59,565 --> 04:00:02,463
we have collected roughly $1.3 million.

3366
04:00:02,463 --> 04:00:08,915
We have spent about $400,000, we have a lot of carryover projects

3367
04:00:08,915 --> 04:00:10,268
in that fund though.

3368
04:00:10,268 --> 04:00:12,495
We have not done the Reappropriation yet

3369
04:00:12,495 --> 04:00:14,465
so some of those the appropriations

3370
04:00:14,465 --> 04:00:17,390
will still be coming over for this.

3371
04:00:17,390 --> 04:00:20,615
Because some of it is FEMA money that is in the fund balance,

3372
04:00:20,615 --> 04:00:23,735
projects for that are transferred to the General

3373
04:00:23,735 --> 04:00:25,471
Construction Fund, that part has already

3374
04:00:25,471 --> 04:00:28,715
been done because we did bring in the construction funds.

3375
04:00:28,715 --> 04:00:32,915
So again, we are doing okay there.

3376
04:00:33,261 --> 04:00:36,855
The additional five cent gas tax,

3377
04:00:36,855 --> 04:00:41,550
we are at $949,000 in revenue, $36,000 in expenditures ,

3378
04:00:45,206 --> 04:00:49,119
I believe they have put in their requisition for their annual

3379
04:00:49,119 --> 04:00:49,903
program.

3380
04:00:49,903 --> 04:00:53,775
As you will recall for next year's budget

3381
04:00:53,775 --> 04:01:00,375
we are reducing that fund for transfer from the general fund.

3382
04:01:03,950 --> 04:01:07,150
We have our six cent gas tax fund,

3383
04:01:07,150 --> 04:01:10,345
total revenue to date is about 516 000.

3384
04:01:10,345 --> 04:01:13,345
Operating expenditures have spent approximately 643,000.

3385
04:01:14,955 --> 04:01:20,281
A lot of our contracts are with the state and don't come

3386
04:01:20,281 --> 04:01:22,315
in until the final quarter of the year,

3387
04:01:22,315 --> 04:01:26,515
so that's why you will see those .

3388
04:01:28,460 --> 04:01:30,668
>> I do have a question on this, one's a 5% sales tax

3389
04:01:30,668 --> 04:01:35,195
and one's a 6% sales tax, that's on the same gallon used right?

3390
04:01:35,195 --> 04:01:37,117
So maybe my math is way off but when

3391
04:01:37,117 --> 04:01:40,765
you look at the year to date for the 5% it's

3392
04:01:40,765 --> 04:01:42,843
a lot less than the 6%.

3393
04:01:42,843 --> 04:01:46,785
And I don't think 1% would make that huge of a difference,

3394
04:01:46,785 --> 04:01:48,668
is there something I am missing?

3395
04:01:48,668 --> 04:01:53,761
>> The part that is being missed is that one of the gas tax funds

3396
04:01:53,761 --> 04:01:57,425
is based on the straight, whatever the state determines

3397
04:01:57,425 --> 04:01:59,687
as the percentage between the city and the county,

3398
04:01:59,687 --> 04:02:03,415
another one is an interlocal agreement that was agreed upon

3399
04:02:03,415 --> 04:02:04,885
with the percentages.

3400
04:02:04,885 --> 04:02:09,472
The state does review that every five years as well.

3401
04:02:09,472 --> 04:02:14,308
So part of our gas tax, we do have

3402
04:02:14,308 --> 04:02:17,555
to provide transportation information on a transportation

3403
04:02:17,555 --> 04:02:20,335
report every year to the state.

3404
04:02:20,335 --> 04:02:22,335
>> Thank you.

3405
04:02:26,419 --> 04:02:27,961
>> The next fund is the 1% sales tax,

3406
04:02:27,961 --> 04:02:31,650
so revenues to date are approximately 3.7 million,

3407
04:02:31,650 --> 04:02:35,150
we have expended approximately 1.9 million so far this year,

3408
04:02:35,150 --> 04:02:37,215
about $1 million still in encumbrances.

3409
04:02:37,215 --> 04:02:42,615
And again that was as of about June 30th.

3410
04:02:43,575 --> 04:02:47,175
For our city leased property funds,

3411
04:02:47,981 --> 04:02:49,745
this one has the two different divisions,

3412
04:02:49,745 --> 04:02:51,795
so we have the Herald Court division as well

3413
04:02:51,795 --> 04:02:53,801
as the non-departmental division,

3414
04:02:53,801 --> 04:02:57,375
in the Herald Court division revenues are approximately

3415
04:02:57,375 --> 04:02:59,375
151,000, expenditures are approximately $186,000.

3416
04:03:01,235 --> 04:03:05,388
And we do know that that was going to happen,

3417
04:03:05,388 --> 04:03:11,503
because we are using a lot of those units for city offices

3418
04:03:11,503 --> 04:03:13,447
at this time.

3419
04:03:13,447 --> 04:03:18,847
The non-departmental side, we have 140 000 in revenue and no

3420
04:03:18,895 --> 04:03:20,735
expenditures at this point.

3421
04:03:20,735 --> 04:03:24,335
Although we do have 380 000 in encumbrances.

3422
04:03:26,343 --> 04:03:31,680
And that was for the, there was more

3423
04:03:31,680 --> 04:03:33,695
in the other division in that whole part was

3424
04:03:33,695 --> 04:03:37,295
for the sealing of the garage.

3425
04:03:38,295 --> 04:03:43,675
General construction, we have only had our transfers so far

3426
04:03:43,675 --> 04:03:45,855
of 310,000 from the general fund.

3427
04:03:45,855 --> 04:03:48,255
Expenditures to date are 936 000,

3428
04:03:48,666 --> 04:03:53,466
again a lot of these are carryover projects .

3429
04:03:57,695 --> 04:04:01,895
Utilities Operating fund is 22.5 million in revenue

3430
04:04:04,127 --> 04:04:07,727
and 20.1 million in expenditures to date.

3431
04:04:08,383 --> 04:04:11,125
They do have approximately 1.4 million

3432
04:04:11,125 --> 04:04:15,325
in encumbrances still outstanding for the year.

3433
04:04:16,415 --> 04:04:21,815
Utilities construction funds are actual to date revenue double

3434
04:04:26,215 --> 04:04:29,468
expenditures are a little over 6 million

3435
04:04:29,468 --> 04:04:31,639
and we have encumbrances of 15 million.

3436
04:04:31,639 --> 04:04:39,439
Again, we have a lot of large projects on that front as well.

3437
04:04:40,535 --> 04:04:44,135
The sanitation fund, 3.6 million in expenditures,

3438
04:04:46,835 --> 04:04:51,350
they have about 700 thousand in encumbrances outstanding.

3439
04:04:53,175 --> 04:04:57,975
The building fund we have approximately just over $1

3440
04:04:59,410 --> 04:05:03,375
million in revenue, expenditures to date are approximately 1.3

3441
04:05:03,375 --> 04:05:07,575
million, and we have about 120 000 in encumbrances.

3442
04:05:14,375 --> 04:05:18,681
The Lashley Park Marina we have approximately 103,000 in revenue

3443
04:05:18,681 --> 04:05:22,857
and we are at about 250 000 for expenditures.

3444
04:05:22,857 --> 04:05:27,650
We do expect that revenue will start increasing, now

3445
04:05:27,650 --> 04:05:32,415
that some of those slips are starting to be rented.

3446
04:05:32,415 --> 04:05:35,959
And then we have our information technology division,

3447
04:05:35,959 --> 04:05:43,663
again this fund is -- all of the revenue comes from other funds

3448
04:05:43,663 --> 04:05:45,295
to support the staff.

3449
04:05:45,295 --> 04:05:48,575
So total revenue is approximately $3 million

3450
04:05:48,575 --> 04:05:52,775
and about 2.6 million in expenditures with 350 thousand

3451
04:05:54,615 --> 04:05:56,615
outstanding in encumbrances.

3452
04:05:57,455 --> 04:05:59,903
And I know I went through that very quickly,

3453
04:05:59,903 --> 04:06:07,103
but if you have any questions I am here to answer those.

3454
04:06:07,955 --> 04:06:11,150
>> Did we find out if we can charge for the boat ramp

3455
04:06:11,150 --> 04:06:11,755
at Lashley?

3456
04:06:11,755 --> 04:06:15,401
I think that was one of the questions that we had.

3457
04:06:15,401 --> 04:06:18,950
>> I think we were still working on that.

3458
04:06:18,950 --> 04:06:23,534
I'll talk to Rachel about it but we will have to look that up.

3459
04:06:23,534 --> 04:06:25,367
>> Because that could be more revenue there,

3460
04:06:25,367 --> 04:06:30,568
so I didn't know if that was -- >> It might be the boat ramp

3461
04:06:30,568 --> 04:06:33,827
and also possibly parking as >> That would be great,

3462
04:06:33,827 --> 04:06:35,202
especially to help maintain that.

3463
04:06:35,202 --> 04:06:36,575
That would be awesome.

3464
04:06:36,575 --> 04:06:38,575
Anything else?

3465
04:06:38,719 --> 04:06:41,719
Okay, thank you and congratulations

3466
04:06:42,545 --> 04:06:44,825
on your hard work to actually have an accountant

3467
04:06:44,825 --> 04:06:46,935
say we're number one basically.

3468
04:06:46,935 --> 04:06:48,795
Thank you.

3469
04:06:48,795 --> 04:06:50,795
>> Thank you.

3470
04:06:57,648 --> 04:07:01,248
>> Six J, doctor Richards project updates.

3471
04:07:08,850 --> 04:07:10,558
>> We get a lot of questions about the --

3472
04:07:10,558 --> 04:07:12,247
Harbor Walk and some residents think

3473
04:07:12,247 --> 04:07:14,849
the city is not doing enough to hurry up and get

3474
04:07:14,849 --> 04:07:17,405
areas of the harbor walk open and things like that,

3475
04:07:17,405 --> 04:07:18,597
getting those fences down.

3476
04:07:18,597 --> 04:07:23,550
I did just want to give council an update on that.

3477
04:07:23,550 --> 04:07:25,755
That area in front of the event center,

3478
04:07:25,755 --> 04:07:28,775
that's the responsibility of the county.

3479
04:07:28,775 --> 04:07:32,959
They have let us know that about two years after they received

3480
04:07:32,959 --> 04:07:35,555
their Army Corps of Engineers approval

3481
04:07:35,555 --> 04:07:39,710
that's how long that project will take to get done.

3482
04:07:39,710 --> 04:07:41,705
So just setting expectations there.

3483
04:07:41,705 --> 04:07:46,203
The area in front of TGS that has not been done,

3484
04:07:46,203 --> 04:07:48,923
the fencing, that goes to the code board in September

3485
04:07:48,923 --> 04:07:52,910
and then our areas that we have, the bridges and the fishing

3486
04:07:52,910 --> 04:07:56,199
Piers, those are all going under evaluation and permitting.

3487
04:07:56,199 --> 04:07:59,823
I will get into that a bit further down in my report.

3488
04:07:59,823 --> 04:08:03,271
But just making clear it's not actually

3489
04:08:03,271 --> 04:08:06,241
the city that controls all of that area of the harbor walk.

3490
04:08:06,241 --> 04:08:10,950
And I wouldn't say that -- it's certainly not the county

3491
04:08:10,950 --> 04:08:13,403
dragging their feet or anything, it's seriously just how long it

3492
04:08:13,403 --> 04:08:17,950
takes to get Army Corps approval to do that kind of work.

3493
04:08:17,950 --> 04:08:20,965
The gazebo at Veterans Park will be completed by September 30th,

3494
04:08:20,965 --> 04:08:22,695
very excited about that.

3495
04:08:22,695 --> 04:08:24,791
Lastly Marina, the city has completed

3496
04:08:24,791 --> 04:08:28,950
all of the temporary repairs at Lashley that can be done.

3497
04:08:28,950 --> 04:08:32,691
So we have 32 slips rented and there are 76 operable slips,

3498
04:08:32,691 --> 04:08:36,632
as we move into season we fully expect all of those

3499
04:08:36,632 --> 04:08:38,890
to be rented.

3500
04:08:38,890 --> 04:08:43,655
We now receive the copies of all the insurance and applications

3501
04:08:43,655 --> 04:08:45,515
and everything as they come in.

3502
04:08:45,515 --> 04:08:49,400
My office is managing that, it's really working well.

3503
04:08:49,400 --> 04:08:52,400
The historic district infrastructure evaluation,

3504
04:08:52,935 --> 04:08:55,455
that was done by staff, they have just

3505
04:08:55,455 --> 04:08:56,503
recently completed that.

3506
04:08:56,503 --> 04:09:00,891
The next step is determining what can be done by public works

3507
04:09:00,891 --> 04:09:02,803
and what we need to bid out.

3508
04:09:02,803 --> 04:09:04,855
We are very excited about moving that forward.

3509
04:09:04,855 --> 04:09:08,950
That has sales tax funding attached to it.

3510
04:09:08,950 --> 04:09:11,775
But as much as we can do in house and more cost effectively,

3511
04:09:11,775 --> 04:09:13,568
we will go ahead and do that.

3512
04:09:13,568 --> 04:09:15,335
Just really working through that.

3513
04:09:15,335 --> 04:09:20,215
The procurement action plan, that kicked off two Fridays ago.

3514
04:09:20,215 --> 04:09:23,591
Mike Buenos Aires and my office will serve

3515
04:09:23,591 --> 04:09:25,511
as the project manager of that.

3516
04:09:25,511 --> 04:09:28,550
We have site visits that will take place beginning

3517
04:09:28,550 --> 04:09:29,295
on September 29th.

3518
04:09:29,295 --> 04:09:31,785
We are currently providing all of the documents

3519
04:09:31,785 --> 04:09:33,923
that the consultant needs to look at,

3520
04:09:33,923 --> 04:09:36,755
such as our procurement policies and financial policies.

3521
04:09:36,755 --> 04:09:40,729
There will be a survey that is developed that will also go out

3522
04:09:40,729 --> 04:09:43,550
to our vendors to find out how we may

3523
04:09:43,550 --> 04:09:47,520
be able to improve things to make it easier

3524
04:09:47,520 --> 04:09:48,548
for them to bid on projects.

3525
04:09:48,548 --> 04:09:52,535
And to point out any areas that we could possibly improve.

3526
04:09:52,535 --> 04:09:57,279
So if you can't tell I am super excited about that project.

3527
04:09:57,279 --> 04:10:00,335
The permit software, we have seven firms

3528
04:10:00,335 --> 04:10:02,887
that provided demonstrations to our team.

3529
04:10:02,887 --> 04:10:04,495
The committee evaluated and ranked

3530
04:10:04,495 --> 04:10:09,688
the top firm, with this we have them doing a proof of concept

3531
04:10:09,688 --> 04:10:12,791
so that we can make sure it works with our systems.

3532
04:10:12,791 --> 04:10:15,455
That will take place on this Friday.

3533
04:10:15,455 --> 04:10:18,935
That permit software will do a lot to improve permitting

3534
04:10:18,935 --> 04:10:20,983
efficiency, we also pulled together

3535
04:10:20,983 --> 04:10:23,228
a working group of staff that is now

3536
04:10:23,228 --> 04:10:26,887
looking at improving the efficiency of our permits,

3537
04:10:26,887 --> 04:10:29,935
aside from that software that will help a lot,

3538
04:10:29,935 --> 04:10:32,743
what can we do in the meantime until that's fully

3539
04:10:32,743 --> 04:10:34,280
up and operable?

3540
04:10:34,280 --> 04:10:37,515
We will also do a video series of setting expectations

3541
04:10:37,515 --> 04:10:39,941
for the community of how that permitting process works.

3542
04:10:39,941 --> 04:10:43,879
What can they do to check on their permits,

3543
04:10:43,879 --> 04:10:47,690
just trying to make things easier for everyone involved.

3544
04:10:47,690 --> 04:10:50,329
We have a lot of cases where someone says --

3545
04:10:50,329 --> 04:10:55,999
a home owner will call up and say why hasn't our permit moved?

3546
04:10:55,999 --> 04:10:58,895
And it's the contractor that hasn't even

3547
04:10:58,895 --> 04:11:00,500
submitted the permit.

3548
04:11:00,500 --> 04:11:02,175
It happens time and time again.

3549
04:11:02,175 --> 04:11:04,948
And the other one that really sticks out to me also,

3550
04:11:04,948 --> 04:11:07,245
permit applications will be dropped off on a Friday

3551
04:11:07,245 --> 04:11:10,230
and we will get a call from a business owner

3552
04:11:10,230 --> 04:11:12,641
or resident on Monday saying where is my permit?

3553
04:11:12,641 --> 04:11:13,775
Why isn't it approved?

3554
04:11:13,775 --> 04:11:16,215
It takes a little bit longer than that.

3555
04:11:16,215 --> 04:11:18,275
And we follow all of the statutory guidelines

3556
04:11:18,275 --> 04:11:21,407
for when permits have to be issued and completed,

3557
04:11:21,407 --> 04:11:25,879
Mike will do a series that educates the public on what

3558
04:11:25,879 --> 04:11:27,607
those statutory requirements are,

3559
04:11:27,607 --> 04:11:32,195
and what the city of Punta Gorda averages are.

3560
04:11:32,195 --> 04:11:36,995
And the grand construction is out to bid,

3561
04:11:37,135 --> 04:11:40,295
the Library Association has been selected to remove --

3562
04:11:40,295 --> 04:11:43,168
review the proposals they will meet by September 8th.

3563
04:11:43,168 --> 04:11:45,815
So that is making good progress.

3564
04:11:45,815 --> 04:11:48,714
Another draft has been approved to release,

3565
04:11:48,714 --> 04:11:51,215
working on that independent estimate

3566
04:11:51,215 --> 04:11:54,163
as soon as we have that.

3567
04:11:54,163 --> 04:11:58,963
The well field improvements and the plant study

3568
04:11:59,495 --> 04:12:03,950
are available for the study committee.

3569
04:12:03,399 --> 04:12:06,361
The FEMA grant will meet by September 9th,

3570
04:12:06,361 --> 04:12:08,135
that investigation will be ongoing.

3571
04:12:08,135 --> 04:12:09,555
You can kind of see a theme here,

3572
04:12:09,555 --> 04:12:12,311
everything is really starting to come together

3573
04:12:12,311 --> 04:12:15,746
and it's a lot of hard work over the year to get to this.

3574
04:12:15,746 --> 04:12:19,175
The crosswalk study evaluation committee will meet on September

3575
04:12:19,175 --> 04:12:19,975
9th.

3576
04:12:19,975 --> 04:12:23,844
I mentioned the engineering library but I do have the date

3577
04:12:23,844 --> 04:12:26,152
of September 15th that they will meet by.

3578
04:12:26,152 --> 04:12:30,721
I did have some questions come in about the fishing Piers

3579
04:12:30,721 --> 04:12:32,983
and docks and all of those kinds of things,

3580
04:12:32,983 --> 04:12:38,975
those are all handled by one vendor who was mentioned earlier

3581
04:12:38,975 --> 04:12:43,555
today, Hans Wilson, he has all the drawings and setups done,

3582
04:12:43,555 --> 04:12:45,140
those are all in place.

3583
04:12:45,140 --> 04:12:51,740
He has done the surveys on different areas and the Lashley

3584
04:12:53,159 --> 04:12:54,881
Fishing pier.

3585
04:12:54,881 --> 04:12:59,681
What we are doing, we have him working

3586
04:13:00,775 --> 04:13:02,527
on all these concurrently so that we

3587
04:13:02,527 --> 04:13:05,183
can package up the Army Corps permits

3588
04:13:05,183 --> 04:13:07,615
and put them all through together.

3589
04:13:07,615 --> 04:13:09,681
So basically anything on one side

3590
04:13:09,681 --> 04:13:12,555
of the bridge that is not in the Manatee protection

3591
04:13:12,555 --> 04:13:16,315
zone, those permits are expected to take about 18 months.

3592
04:13:16,315 --> 04:13:19,790
Everything that is in the Manatee Protection zone

3593
04:13:19,790 --> 04:13:20,890
is about 24 months.

3594
04:13:20,890 --> 04:13:23,866
And construction on all of those Piers is at 12 months.

3595
04:13:23,866 --> 04:13:26,508
So it will be a little while yet.

3596
04:13:26,508 --> 04:13:33,108
But all of the steps are moving to make that happen.

3597
04:13:33,335 --> 04:13:38,550
Nature park come with the same with the fishing pier there,

3598
04:13:38,550 --> 04:13:40,559
the drawing is complete and the Army Corps permit

3599
04:13:40,559 --> 04:13:43,348
should get out over the course of the next week.

3600
04:13:43,348 --> 04:13:46,129
As far as oversight of all of the work

3601
04:13:46,129 --> 04:13:48,255
that we have done on docks and Piers,

3602
04:13:48,255 --> 04:13:52,215
we have in our contract that we are to get updates frequently,

3603
04:13:52,215 --> 04:13:56,415
once a week, on the status of the fishing Piers and docks.

3604
04:13:56,415 --> 04:13:59,340
I'm not going to bore you with sending it out every week

3605
04:13:59,340 --> 04:14:03,550
but I do want to let you know that that check is there

3606
04:14:03,550 --> 04:14:06,490
and staff are monitoring those situations.

3607
04:14:06,490 --> 04:14:09,778
A couple of situations that were not necessarily listed

3608
04:14:09,778 --> 04:14:12,200
as large projects but I think are pretty important that

3609
04:14:12,200 --> 04:14:16,350
happened over the break, all of the bollards on Linear Park

3610
04:14:16,350 --> 04:14:17,940
where we installed.

3611
04:14:17,940 --> 04:14:19,315
The benches and parks that had been taken away

3612
04:14:19,315 --> 04:14:23,550
by the hurricanes and floods, those have all been replaced.

3613
04:14:23,550 --> 04:14:25,995
So we are all set with that now.

3614
04:14:25,995 --> 04:14:31,995
The Hans Pavilion had some repairs in the Lashley Pavilion

3615
04:14:32,323 --> 04:14:34,455
had some rust repair and were painted,

3616
04:14:34,455 --> 04:14:35,831
so those look very nice.

3617
04:14:35,831 --> 04:14:41,455
And I will take questions about anything I didn't mention.

3618
04:14:41,455 --> 04:14:43,335
>> I think that is fantastic.

3619
04:14:43,335 --> 04:14:46,875
Considering we had two back to back major historical floods,

3620
04:14:46,875 --> 04:14:50,620
I think that you directing staff have done a tremendous job

3621
04:14:50,620 --> 04:14:53,655
in trying to get all of this stuff done,

3622
04:14:53,655 --> 04:14:56,379
like you said it's all coming together all at once.

3623
04:14:56,379 --> 04:14:59,979
And thank you for doing that.

3624
04:15:07,965 --> 04:15:09,507
>> Great work, a couple of questions.

3625
04:15:09,507 --> 04:15:13,707
There are 32 slips rented at the Lashley,

3626
04:15:15,175 --> 04:15:17,495
the water is pretty shallow there,

3627
04:15:17,495 --> 04:15:19,841
have we applied for the permit for dredging?

3628
04:15:19,841 --> 04:15:21,668
Or how does that fit in?

3629
04:15:21,668 --> 04:15:26,815
In regards to that also we are dredging the waterway

3630
04:15:26,815 --> 04:15:29,715
into where the dinghy dock is correct?

3631
04:15:29,715 --> 04:15:33,981
Or we have -- did we get, I have so many questions and I have

3632
04:15:33,981 --> 04:15:35,260
to say them all at once.

3633
04:15:35,260 --> 04:15:38,847
Did we get funding for that?

3634
04:15:38,847 --> 04:15:40,135
For the dredging?

3635
04:15:40,135 --> 04:15:43,135
For the dinghy dock waterway?

3636
04:15:45,695 --> 04:15:49,143
>> Yes, we did get funding, grant funding to dredge the area

3637
04:15:49,143 --> 04:15:51,970
by the boat club.

3638
04:15:51,970 --> 04:15:52,939
That is in process.

3639
04:15:52,939 --> 04:15:55,255
We are working through the grant agreement

3640
04:15:55,255 --> 04:15:57,823
right now to make sure we follow all the protocols,

3641
04:15:57,823 --> 04:16:00,111
but that is moving forward.

3642
04:16:00,111 --> 04:16:03,175
And the Lashley Marina Dredge, we

3643
04:16:03,175 --> 04:16:05,948
are looking to see if we can piggyback that on a contract

3644
04:16:05,948 --> 04:16:08,348
that we already have to get that moving.

3645
04:16:08,348 --> 04:16:12,711
And all of our work with Hans Wilson

3646
04:16:12,711 --> 04:16:15,391
includes applying for the permits.

3647
04:16:15,391 --> 04:16:17,951
So it's all together and moving forward.

3648
04:16:17,951 --> 04:16:21,175
And since I still have the microphone,

3649
04:16:21,175 --> 04:16:23,583
and since the mayor graciously thanked me,

3650
04:16:23,583 --> 04:16:27,877
I cannot accept thanks without recognizing all of my staff that

3651
04:16:27,877 --> 04:16:31,447
have put in so much hard work to make all of these things happen.

3652
04:16:31,447 --> 04:16:33,847
They are simply amazing.

3653
04:16:34,335 --> 04:16:36,335
>> That's awesome.

3654
04:16:38,735 --> 04:16:40,735
Greg?

3655
04:16:41,495 --> 04:16:44,150
>> Is there anything happening with that public private

3656
04:16:44,150 --> 04:16:50,295
partnership for Gilchrist Marina that we heard about a while ago?

3657
04:16:50,295 --> 04:16:52,919
>> Yes, I had just reached out to Reeves again,

3658
04:16:52,919 --> 04:16:56,278
he was looking for a bit more time to get through some

3659
04:16:56,278 --> 04:16:57,726
projects that he is working on.

3660
04:16:57,726 --> 04:17:00,883
There is still interest, but nothing that I have

3661
04:17:00,883 --> 04:17:07,483
that I can bring before you at this point in time.

3662
04:17:11,790 --> 04:17:13,862
>> I guess we will go on to boards and committees.

3663
04:17:13,862 --> 04:17:15,740
Sara are you ready?

3664
04:17:15,740 --> 04:17:19,340
Oh wait. >> Item six K right?

3665
04:17:22,255 --> 04:17:24,255
>> Yes, I'm sorry.

3666
04:17:25,535 --> 04:17:27,935
You have the floor.

3667
04:17:30,800 --> 04:17:31,966
>> As long as I have the floor, I'm just asking

3668
04:17:31,966 --> 04:17:35,875
for clarification because we did engage an attorney.

3669
04:17:35,875 --> 04:17:37,855
My understanding was that we were

3670
04:17:37,855 --> 04:17:43,135
going to go ahead and do whatever we could in

3671
04:17:43,135 --> 04:17:46,950
order to get the property back 100%

3672
04:17:46,950 --> 04:17:49,155
into the hands of the people.

3673
04:17:49,155 --> 04:17:52,743
I remember saying that, but maybe not

3674
04:17:52,743 --> 04:17:55,779
you don't hire commercial litigator to just give

3675
04:17:55,779 --> 04:17:58,215
an opinion you typically want them to litigate for you

3676
04:17:58,215 --> 04:18:00,350
and figure out a mess you might be in.

3677
04:18:00,350 --> 04:18:03,595
So I just want to make sure and clarify that that is definitely

3678
04:18:03,595 --> 04:18:05,832
what we put him in place for.

3679
04:18:05,832 --> 04:18:13,332
And I know that you would like to talk on this Mr. Leskovich

3680
04:18:13,332 --> 04:18:18,350
>> Absolutely, I'm hearing some public rumors and sentiment out

3681
04:18:18,350 --> 04:18:23,975
there about having the city lost its opportunity on both

3682
04:18:23,975 --> 04:18:27,575
of the reverter deeds, or the one Reverter deeds

3683
04:18:27,575 --> 04:18:30,415
and the amendments laws and the contracts and everything else.

3684
04:18:30,415 --> 04:18:34,146
I'm letting you guys know that no, the city has not

3685
04:18:34,146 --> 04:18:38,935
lost its opportunity or given up any rights or procedural rights,

3686
04:18:38,935 --> 04:18:43,255
any jurisdictional rights when it comes to the reverter deeds.

3687
04:18:43,255 --> 04:18:46,255
Some things procedurally and jurisdictionally

3688
04:18:47,195 --> 04:18:51,105
have held up the city from filing the deed itself,

3689
04:18:51,105 --> 04:18:55,905
whether that be foreclosures or flooding or the

3690
04:18:56,335 --> 04:18:58,975
deed itself, whether it be bankruptcies,

3691
04:18:58,975 --> 04:19:01,872
something has held us up.

3692
04:19:01,872 --> 04:19:07,974
And that caused us -- instead of filing the deed the way that we

3693
04:19:07,974 --> 04:19:08,474
have it.

3694
04:19:08,474 --> 04:19:11,775
It was recognized and the reverter deeds

3695
04:19:11,775 --> 04:19:15,795
are recognized by what is now the former trustee's

3696
04:19:15,795 --> 04:19:19,703
of the bankruptcy and of the foreclosure

3697
04:19:19,703 --> 04:19:22,761
matters that we have the reverter,

3698
04:19:22,761 --> 04:19:25,415
the parcels can come back to us.

3699
04:19:25,415 --> 04:19:27,795
But again, it was procedurally held up

3700
04:19:27,795 --> 04:19:30,955
and jurisdictionally held up because of some other court

3701
04:19:30,955 --> 04:19:31,855
issues.

3702
04:19:31,855 --> 04:19:36,550
Counsel did here, maybe 2 or 3 months ago,

3703
04:19:36,455 --> 04:19:42,455
we did engage Barlow who has been fantastic at communicating

3704
04:19:43,495 --> 04:19:46,280
with me to get specific documentations

3705
04:19:46,280 --> 04:19:50,663
that he may need in the event that new buyers,

3706
04:19:50,663 --> 04:19:55,439
or the previous trustees of Fishermen's Village contest

3707
04:19:55,439 --> 04:19:56,927
the deeds.

3708
04:19:56,927 --> 04:19:59,943
When I spoke with him as late as last Friday,

3709
04:19:59,943 --> 04:20:04,495
or whatever day that was, he is looking for additional direction

3710
04:20:04,495 --> 04:20:09,375
from you guys because now that the trustees and the receivers

3711
04:20:09,375 --> 04:20:11,785
from the bank are out of the question

3712
04:20:11,785 --> 04:20:18,175
there was an agreement where the city did not have to sign.

3713
04:20:18,175 --> 04:20:20,695
But between the buyers and the receivers

3714
04:20:20,695 --> 04:20:23,923
to completely eliminate them from any negotiations

3715
04:20:23,923 --> 04:20:27,855
that go on with the city regarding the reverter process.

3716
04:20:27,855 --> 04:20:31,615
So what Mr. Barlow is looking for from you

3717
04:20:31,615 --> 04:20:34,847
guys now is how you want him to proceed.

3718
04:20:34,847 --> 04:20:39,401
Because the buyers have, in essence, proposed to the city

3719
04:20:39,401 --> 04:20:42,655
that they are very interested in working with us,

3720
04:20:42,655 --> 04:20:45,235
in coming to some kind of common ground

3721
04:20:45,235 --> 04:20:47,975
that is beneficial to not only the city

3722
04:20:47,975 --> 04:20:51,908
and the residents of Punta Gorda but also to Fishermen's Village,

3723
04:20:51,908 --> 04:20:54,535
the discussions have been coming about.

3724
04:20:54,535 --> 04:20:58,157
Potentially the buyers may want to look

3725
04:20:58,157 --> 04:21:00,375
into a new contract with the city,

3726
04:21:00,375 --> 04:21:03,415
potentially a new reverter deed with the city,

3727
04:21:03,415 --> 04:21:07,255
some sort of alternative that was previously in place,

3728
04:21:07,255 --> 04:21:11,423
potentially a land lease where the or the property

3729
04:21:11,423 --> 04:21:14,711
does actually come back to us and there's a land lease.

3730
04:21:14,711 --> 04:21:20,111
Or potentially just buying out the whole property again.

3731
04:21:20,295 --> 04:21:25,950
Their attorney was incapacitated for a little bit

3732
04:21:25,217 --> 04:21:26,967
now that he's been back in the groove I've

3733
04:21:26,967 --> 04:21:29,463
been back in contact with him.

3734
04:21:29,463 --> 04:21:35,790
And they've been getting back in contact with Doctor Reichert

3735
04:21:35,790 --> 04:21:38,658
and I. And I explained to Mr. Barlow

3736
04:21:38,658 --> 04:21:40,283
that once I got direction from you guys

3737
04:21:40,283 --> 04:21:42,741
about whether you wanted him involved with the negotiations

3738
04:21:42,741 --> 04:21:45,695
resolving the buyers, and what they're looking for, whether you

3739
04:21:45,695 --> 04:21:49,735
wanted to just say no let's just go ahead and proceed judiciously

3740
04:21:49,735 --> 04:21:52,995
through the court system and get the deed actually recorded.

3741
04:21:52,995 --> 04:21:56,515
But he's looking for additional guidance from you

3742
04:21:56,515 --> 04:22:01,315
now that the property has closed and it's

3743
04:22:02,327 --> 04:22:03,655
completely out of the picture.

3744
04:22:03,655 --> 04:22:05,467
But the city has not lost its opportunity

3745
04:22:05,467 --> 04:22:08,350
to come with the parcels are there, we have the deeds,

3746
04:22:08,350 --> 04:22:09,350
we have them recognized.

3747
04:22:09,350 --> 04:22:13,235
We are good to go with those.

3748
04:22:18,453 --> 04:22:24,211
>> Jeannine for the record, we do not have the property though

3749
04:22:24,211 --> 04:22:24,711
right now.

3750
04:22:24,711 --> 04:22:27,215
I would like to see this deed recorded so that we have

3751
04:22:27,215 --> 04:22:28,795
more of a position of strength.

3752
04:22:28,795 --> 04:22:32,715
I am not okay with not recording it.

3753
04:22:32,715 --> 04:22:34,000
Not at all.

3754
04:22:34,000 --> 04:22:38,632
I feel like this has been a very long and arduous process.

3755
04:22:38,632 --> 04:22:45,735
A lot of it is not our fault, but I do know that both Melissa

3756
04:22:45,735 --> 04:22:47,735
Lockhart and --

3757
04:22:50,905 --> 04:22:56,305
Councilwoman Lockhart and Mayor Lux were on the board

3758
04:22:56,392 --> 04:22:58,975
when we move forward and said let's get these properties back.

3759
04:22:58,975 --> 04:23:01,179
So that's why I thought we really

3760
04:23:01,179 --> 04:23:03,382
need to cross our T's and dot our eyes here

3761
04:23:03,382 --> 04:23:05,668
to make sure we have it in the hands of the people.

3762
04:23:05,668 --> 04:23:10,921
That's my take , before we do any negotiating it's better

3763
04:23:10,921 --> 04:23:13,775
to make sure we have that already tied up.

3764
04:23:13,775 --> 04:23:15,775
Thank you.

3765
04:23:20,245 --> 04:23:21,703
>> I was going to say that I agree.

3766
04:23:21,703 --> 04:23:25,838
The previous council as well as the current council all

3767
04:23:25,838 --> 04:23:27,455
agreed to get the Reverter back.

3768
04:23:27,455 --> 04:23:30,975
So I think we do need to record it that we have it back

3769
04:23:30,975 --> 04:23:32,415
and then we can negotiate.

3770
04:23:32,415 --> 04:23:34,359
Whether it's leasing it or selling it,

3771
04:23:34,359 --> 04:23:35,859
that's in the future.

3772
04:23:35,859 --> 04:23:38,920
But right now I think it's most important for us

3773
04:23:38,920 --> 04:23:42,407
to get that recorded and have it as the city.

3774
04:23:42,407 --> 04:23:44,495
Because that's what the residents and we all

3775
04:23:44,495 --> 04:23:49,550
agreed upon as the old council and the current council.

3776
04:23:49,550 --> 04:23:51,550
Anybody else?

3777
04:23:58,254 --> 04:24:00,635
>> I just want to make sure I'm hearing correctly,

3778
04:24:00,635 --> 04:24:02,809
because I told Mr. Barlow I would speak to him today

3779
04:24:02,809 --> 04:24:04,851
depending on what time we get out of the meeting.

3780
04:24:04,851 --> 04:24:06,893
But what I'm hearing is go ahead and move forward

3781
04:24:06,893 --> 04:24:10,175
with the filing of the deed, but I

3782
04:24:10,175 --> 04:24:13,692
want you guys to understand it's not just we take the deed

3783
04:24:13,692 --> 04:24:16,695
and walk down to the tax collector and the city clerk's

3784
04:24:16,695 --> 04:24:19,650
office and everybody else and just record this thing.

3785
04:24:19,650 --> 04:24:23,215
It's not like a typical deed with some of the hurdles

3786
04:24:23,215 --> 04:24:24,569
that we have to jump over.

3787
04:24:24,569 --> 04:24:28,815
I will speak to Mr. Barlow about how we can do this judiciously

3788
04:24:28,815 --> 04:24:31,951
and expeditiously at the same time so that we have it recorded

3789
04:24:31,951 --> 04:24:36,151
and then go from there with it.

3790
04:24:37,415 --> 04:24:39,228
>> Consensus yes?

3791
04:24:39,228 --> 04:24:40,515
>> If that's what I'm hearing.

3792
04:24:40,515 --> 04:24:46,788
We could -- because normally you can just take a deed and go

3793
04:24:46,788 --> 04:24:48,121
right down and have it recorded.

3794
04:24:48,121 --> 04:24:49,775
But this is a bit different.

3795
04:24:49,775 --> 04:24:55,175
So we have to be a bit more careful.

3796
04:24:57,459 --> 04:24:59,420
>> Again I'll just repeat what I said,

3797
04:24:59,420 --> 04:25:01,845
I think we need to negotiate from a position of strength,

3798
04:25:01,845 --> 04:25:03,228
period, end of story.

3799
04:25:03,228 --> 04:25:05,495
I think this has been going on forever,

3800
04:25:05,495 --> 04:25:08,870
my personal opinion is this process

3801
04:25:08,870 --> 04:25:11,839
should never have been sold the land, not the property,

3802
04:25:11,839 --> 04:25:14,150
it should never have been sold.

3803
04:25:14,150 --> 04:25:17,635
It was given to the citizens of the city of Punta

3804
04:25:17,635 --> 04:25:18,855
Gorda for safe keeping.

3805
04:25:18,855 --> 04:25:21,150
Some people allowed it to be sold.

3806
04:25:21,150 --> 04:25:25,127
And here we are with an opportunity to get it back.

3807
04:25:25,127 --> 04:25:28,561
Please, please, give it back to the people

3808
04:25:28,561 --> 04:25:35,761
and then we can decide what we want to do after that.

3809
04:25:35,790 --> 04:25:38,248
>> Can you go into a bit more detail about what the process

3810
04:25:38,248 --> 04:25:39,721
would be for recording the deed?

3811
04:25:39,721 --> 04:25:41,721
The cost?

3812
04:25:47,652 --> 04:25:53,119
>> We have to go into court with the deed because the original

3813
04:25:53,119 --> 04:25:56,470
deed was destroyed in the hurricanes.

3814
04:25:56,470 --> 04:25:59,425
So what we have, and it's no fault of the city,

3815
04:25:59,425 --> 04:26:04,000
all parties have recognized that there is a copy of the deed

3816
04:26:04,000 --> 04:26:04,500
there.

3817
04:26:04,500 --> 04:26:06,668
But we still need the courts to recognize

3818
04:26:06,668 --> 04:26:11,966
that what we have as the deed, a copy of the deed,

3819
04:26:11,966 --> 04:26:13,341
that it's a copy of the original.

3820
04:26:13,341 --> 04:26:15,855
So once we have that declaratory judgment

3821
04:26:15,855 --> 04:26:19,528
recognizing that, then we can go to the clerk's office

3822
04:26:19,528 --> 04:26:21,823
and have it recorded.

3823
04:26:21,823 --> 04:26:27,823
It could take anywhere between 30 days or upwards of 60 days.

3824
04:26:28,209 --> 04:26:31,665
Doing a court filing can cost about 400

3825
04:26:31,665 --> 04:26:34,650
and something dollars, roughly $460

3826
04:26:34,708 --> 04:26:38,568
to open up the case with the clerk system.

3827
04:26:38,568 --> 04:26:41,297
In terms of legal fees, whether I do it,

3828
04:26:41,297 --> 04:26:44,654
you know what my rates are, or if Mr. Barlow does it

3829
04:26:44,654 --> 04:26:46,428
and he's an expert in that field I

3830
04:26:46,428 --> 04:26:51,228
can't imagine it would cost more than 3 or $5000

3831
04:26:51,340 --> 04:26:55,409
to actually do it if Mr. Barlow did it.

3832
04:26:55,409 --> 04:26:57,390
That is entirely up to you.

3833
04:26:57,390 --> 04:27:00,575
I can come back to you guys after I speak to him,

3834
04:27:00,575 --> 04:27:04,775
or get with doctor Reichert on it

3835
04:27:05,835 --> 04:27:08,530
and give me direction on how to proceed with it

3836
04:27:08,530 --> 04:27:09,950
and we can go from there.

3837
04:27:09,950 --> 04:27:12,695
But that's kind of the process.

3838
04:27:15,186 --> 04:27:18,186
>> Again Jeannine for the record,

3839
04:27:18,830 --> 04:27:22,595
let's not forget this is a cost of nothing,

3840
04:27:22,595 --> 04:27:24,600
this is a multi-million dollar property.

3841
04:27:24,600 --> 04:27:28,775
Let's go ahead and do this come on get it done.

3842
04:27:28,775 --> 04:27:34,677
Give Mr. Leskovich the leverage that he needs to say yes

3843
04:27:34,677 --> 04:27:35,943
we can move forward with this.

3844
04:27:35,943 --> 04:27:37,950
Thank you.

3845
04:27:37,950 --> 04:27:41,550
>> I am in agreement, and if you can get back with us by next

3846
04:27:41,550 --> 04:27:44,765
week perhaps with some best suggestions to move forward.

3847
04:27:44,765 --> 04:27:46,463
Obviously you have the steps coming up

3848
04:27:46,463 --> 04:27:50,175
whether it's you or Barlow, it doesn't matter too much.

3849
04:27:50,175 --> 04:27:53,205
But just keep the process moving to get this done.

3850
04:27:53,205 --> 04:27:55,205
Thank you.

3851
04:27:55,255 --> 04:27:58,895
>> I am going to go back to --

3852
04:27:58,895 --> 04:28:00,675
I agree I think you a very well qualified

3853
04:28:00,675 --> 04:28:05,228
but if you have ways to expedite it faster then what you can do,

3854
04:28:05,228 --> 04:28:10,280
and again even when I could do everything

3855
04:28:10,752 --> 04:28:12,335
that I could in my previous procession

3856
04:28:12,335 --> 04:28:13,943
I still sometimes gave it to specialists who

3857
04:28:13,943 --> 04:28:15,550
could do it faster and better.

3858
04:28:15,550 --> 04:28:16,543
So I'm in agreement, let's find out

3859
04:28:16,543 --> 04:28:18,963
how much it would be to find out how much it would

3860
04:28:18,963 --> 04:28:21,413
be for him to execute and get the thing done,

3861
04:28:21,413 --> 04:28:22,871
he might have the right connections

3862
04:28:22,871 --> 04:28:24,415
and then we can figure out how much we're

3863
04:28:24,415 --> 04:28:26,203
going to lease it for how much we're going to lease it,

3864
04:28:26,203 --> 04:28:27,898
or to look at selling it, or whatever.

3865
04:28:27,898 --> 04:28:31,111
But it's important for us to get it back right now.

3866
04:28:31,111 --> 04:28:33,620
So consensus?

3867
04:28:33,620 --> 04:28:34,390
Good?

3868
04:28:34,390 --> 04:28:35,535
Okay.

3869
04:28:35,535 --> 04:28:37,535
Thank you.

3870
04:28:38,550 --> 04:28:40,550
Wait, sorry.

3871
04:28:42,935 --> 04:28:47,134
>> I will contact Mr. Barlow then this afternoon and I will

3872
04:28:47,134 --> 04:28:53,134
get back to doctor Reichert this afternoon about my conversation.

3873
04:28:53,628 --> 04:28:55,748
>> I think we are ready now.

3874
04:28:55,748 --> 04:28:58,670
>> Good afternoon again, city clerk Sara Welch,

3875
04:28:58,670 --> 04:29:02,215
for the record, under boards and committees we have a few

3876
04:29:02,215 --> 04:29:03,595
announcements of vacancy.

3877
04:29:03,595 --> 04:29:07,134
On the building board we have one consumer advocate alternate

3878
04:29:07,134 --> 04:29:09,783
position that has been created now based on the resolution that

3879
04:29:09,783 --> 04:29:11,498
was improved -- approved earlier.

3880
04:29:11,498 --> 04:29:14,170
We have one seat on the Code enforcement board.

3881
04:29:14,170 --> 04:29:17,735
We have one seat for a city resident member of the police

3882
04:29:17,735 --> 04:29:19,205
officer's pension board.

3883
04:29:19,205 --> 04:29:22,748
Under nominations the first one we have up on the building board

3884
04:29:22,748 --> 04:29:25,748
is a consumer advocate seat.

3885
04:29:27,150 --> 04:29:29,915
We had someone express interest in serving but now

3886
04:29:29,915 --> 04:29:32,165
that we have fixed it so that his previous involvement

3887
04:29:32,165 --> 04:29:34,958
with the building industry is no longer an obstacle,

3888
04:29:34,958 --> 04:29:39,422
if City Council would like you can nominate and appoint him

3889
04:29:39,422 --> 04:29:42,422
by motion at this time.

3890
04:29:47,494 --> 04:29:48,494
>> Sorry come on hold on

3891
04:29:48,494 --> 04:29:54,175
>> Motion to approve, appoint and nominate him to the building

3892
04:29:54,175 --> 04:29:56,175
board.

3893
04:29:56,415 --> 04:29:58,494
>> Do I have a second?

3894
04:29:58,494 --> 04:30:00,255
>> I will second the motion.

3895
04:30:00,255 --> 04:30:01,639
>> We have a motion and a second.

3896
04:30:01,639 --> 04:30:04,455
All in favor raise your hand.

3897
04:30:04,455 --> 04:30:06,455
For, opposed?

3898
04:30:07,474 --> 04:30:08,985
Nothing.

3899
04:30:08,985 --> 04:30:10,775
That's done.

3900
04:30:10,775 --> 04:30:12,775
Thank you.

3901
04:30:20,641 --> 04:30:23,308
>> Next up on the building board also we have the alternate seat

3902
04:30:23,308 --> 04:30:25,335
which is for a contractor.

3903
04:30:25,335 --> 04:30:30,135
We had a previous application with previous experience

3904
04:30:32,120 --> 04:30:34,828
if you would like you can also nominate and appoint her

3905
04:30:34,828 --> 04:30:37,948
to that seat by motion at this time.

3906
04:30:37,948 --> 04:30:44,548
>> I do have one question about this, I asked you Mr.

3907
04:30:44,775 --> 04:30:48,127
Leskovich but I don't know if you recall, for the contractors,

3908
04:30:48,127 --> 04:30:51,726
is she the one who owns the contractor license?

3909
04:30:51,726 --> 04:30:57,126
Because if she's not this is a contractor position.

3910
04:31:07,756 --> 04:31:09,401
>> I her raising her hand over here.

3911
04:31:09,401 --> 04:31:11,401
>> Okay hold on.

3912
04:31:11,808 --> 04:31:14,391
>> I just wanted to point out that in her application she does

3913
04:31:14,391 --> 04:31:16,650
have a certified building contractor license with

3914
04:31:16,650 --> 04:31:18,650
the city.

3915
04:31:19,335 --> 04:31:20,535
>> Did you verify that?

3916
04:31:20,535 --> 04:31:26,535
I couldn't find it when I was looking for it.

3917
04:31:26,733 --> 04:31:28,108
>> Page three of her application.

3918
04:31:28,108 --> 04:31:33,547
>> I understand that, but actually looking to see if she

3919
04:31:33,547 --> 04:31:38,947
has a contractor's license with the state of Florida.

3920
04:31:43,170 --> 04:31:45,918
>> That's what it's >> But not verified?

3921
04:31:45,918 --> 04:31:47,335
I just wasn't sure if she actually

3922
04:31:47,335 --> 04:31:48,711
had a contractor's license.

3923
04:31:48,711 --> 04:31:52,595
I saw that she -- her husband did but not that she did.

3924
04:31:52,595 --> 04:31:59,463
If she's stating that she did, and if she doesn't then it's

3925
04:31:59,463 --> 04:32:04,263
not appropriate for her to have this position.

3926
04:32:12,177 --> 04:32:18,177
>> Give me one second, I will pull up their bylaws.

3927
04:32:27,335 --> 04:32:30,335
The bylaws state appointment shall

3928
04:32:30,440 --> 04:32:32,190
be made by the City Council with reference

3929
04:32:32,190 --> 04:32:36,215
to the following professions available to serve,

3930
04:32:36,215 --> 04:32:39,215
engineering, architecture, general building, contracting,

3931
04:32:39,494 --> 04:32:43,150
plumbing, electrical, and miscellaneous building trades.

3932
04:32:43,150 --> 04:32:46,595
It doesn't speak to any certain license

3933
04:32:46,595 --> 04:32:50,215
in particular, but more of just a general involvement

3934
04:32:50,215 --> 04:32:52,615
in the building industry.

3935
04:33:05,873 --> 04:33:07,873
>> Thank you.

3936
04:33:08,775 --> 04:33:13,575
I think Mr. Leskovich is going to speak.

3937
04:33:15,815 --> 04:33:17,815
Okay, go ahead.

3938
04:33:18,815 --> 04:33:22,545
>> I nominate and appoint Kathy to the position on the building

3939
04:33:22,545 --> 04:33:24,545
board.

3940
04:33:32,876 --> 04:33:38,276
>> It's an alternate position, I will just second it.

3941
04:33:39,840 --> 04:33:41,215
>> Did you want to say something?

3942
04:33:41,215 --> 04:33:44,717
>> Maybe we should look over, if those qualifications are a bit

3943
04:33:44,717 --> 04:33:47,617
vague we may want to look over and just make sure that we have

3944
04:33:47,617 --> 04:33:48,117
--

3945
04:33:48,117 --> 04:33:51,268
I mean it sounds like I would qualify.

3946
04:33:51,268 --> 04:33:54,221
I have done a lot of work rehabbing a house.

3947
04:33:54,221 --> 04:33:56,165
We may want to refine that a bit.

3948
04:33:56,165 --> 04:33:58,165
In the future.

3949
04:34:03,797 --> 04:34:05,975
>> So we have a nominate and appoint for a motion,

3950
04:34:05,975 --> 04:34:07,975
all in favor?

3951
04:34:08,500 --> 04:34:10,500
Okay, for, opposed?

3952
04:34:11,775 --> 04:34:14,185
Motion carries, but again I agree with Janice,

3953
04:34:14,185 --> 04:34:16,347
we need to have that more detailed.

3954
04:34:16,347 --> 04:34:19,298
I don't know the consensus, Janine?

3955
04:34:19,298 --> 04:34:19,881
Greg?

3956
04:34:19,881 --> 04:34:21,881
Okay 3 to 1.

3957
04:34:26,135 --> 04:34:28,660
While you've got it there do you want

3958
04:34:28,660 --> 04:34:31,150
to go ahead and go with your information?

3959
04:34:31,150 --> 04:34:33,255
>> I do have one last one to bring up.

3960
04:34:33,255 --> 04:34:36,227
The last item we have under nominations

3961
04:34:36,227 --> 04:34:39,255
is the Code Enforcement Board we have two regular and one

3962
04:34:39,255 --> 04:34:40,175
alternate seats up.

3963
04:34:40,175 --> 04:34:44,223
We have three applicants, if we would

3964
04:34:44,223 --> 04:34:45,848
like to bring them back for appointment

3965
04:34:45,848 --> 04:34:48,807
at the next meeting the plan would be to have voting first

3966
04:34:48,807 --> 04:34:51,955
for the regular seats and then whoever is not appointed

3967
04:34:51,955 --> 04:34:54,135
to a regular seat could take the alternate seat,

3968
04:34:54,135 --> 04:34:57,735
if that is acceptable to council.

3969
04:34:59,295 --> 04:35:02,775
>> And both Carl and Mark are currently on it and Teresa is

3970
04:35:02,775 --> 04:35:04,775
asking to currently be on it?

3971
04:35:04,775 --> 04:35:06,175
Is that correct?

3972
04:35:06,175 --> 04:35:08,175
>> That's correct.

3973
04:35:12,520 --> 04:35:13,200
>> Not.?

3974
04:35:13,200 --> 04:35:16,481
We'll just -- >> We'll do it at the next meeting.

3975
04:35:16,481 --> 04:35:20,481
>> So this is just a nominate all three?

3976
04:35:20,481 --> 04:35:23,248
>> I'm sorry Carl is the only one who's a current member

3977
04:35:23,248 --> 04:35:25,248
of the board.

3978
04:35:26,100 --> 04:35:28,675
>> So we just have to have a nomination for all three of them

3979
04:35:28,675 --> 04:35:29,975
this this time?

3980
04:35:29,975 --> 04:35:31,150
>> Correct.

3981
04:35:31,150 --> 04:35:34,150
>> Do I have a nomination?

3982
04:35:38,200 --> 04:35:39,228
>> I will nominate all three.

3983
04:35:39,228 --> 04:35:41,215
>> A second?

3984
04:35:41,215 --> 04:35:42,761
>> I second.

3985
04:35:42,761 --> 04:35:45,735
>> We have a motion and a second to nominate all three.

3986
04:35:45,735 --> 04:35:47,735
All in favor raise your hand.

3987
04:35:47,735 --> 04:35:49,735
Four yeses, opposed?

3988
04:35:49,775 --> 04:35:51,775
Motion carries.

3989
04:35:56,140 --> 04:35:58,150
>> Thank you, if it's okay I can do my report

3990
04:35:58,150 --> 04:36:01,150
>> Hold on just a second.

3991
04:36:01,455 --> 04:36:05,447
>> Sarah do you explicitly need, because you are nominating two

3992
04:36:05,447 --> 04:36:08,495
regular and one alternate, which one of the three,

3993
04:36:08,495 --> 04:36:11,615
which two of the three are designated as the regular

3994
04:36:11,615 --> 04:36:15,815
members and which one is the alternate?

3995
04:36:18,798 --> 04:36:21,215
>> The intention is to figure that out at the next meeting

3996
04:36:21,215 --> 04:36:24,815
by vote, who would be which.

3997
04:36:38,255 --> 04:36:40,988
And on my report I would just like everyone

3998
04:36:40,988 --> 04:36:42,795
to know that we have just over a month

3999
04:36:42,795 --> 04:36:46,183
left for businesses for new city business tax receipts.

4000
04:36:46,183 --> 04:36:49,200
To date 393 renewals have been processed,

4001
04:36:49,200 --> 04:36:53,679
of the 111,000 active businesses of the current fiscal year.

4002
04:36:53,679 --> 04:36:57,535
Late fees will begin October 1st for businesses that do not renew

4003
04:36:57,535 --> 04:36:59,835
prior to the September 30th deadline.

4004
04:36:59,835 --> 04:37:03,591
We are encouraging everyone who has not

4005
04:37:03,591 --> 04:37:06,468
received a renewal notice to reach out to us to update

4006
04:37:06,468 --> 04:37:08,688
their contact information and if possible to not get

4007
04:37:08,688 --> 04:37:10,659
the renewal in one fell swoop.

4008
04:37:10,659 --> 04:37:13,398
I'm also excited that the Fall Festival is going

4009
04:37:13,398 --> 04:37:15,841
to be here before we know it.

4010
04:37:15,841 --> 04:37:20,365
We have 22 nonprofits signed up for the trick or treat circuit

4011
04:37:20,365 --> 04:37:22,345
to donate resources and contribute

4012
04:37:22,345 --> 04:37:24,507
to the community with their services.

4013
04:37:24,507 --> 04:37:27,263
We have also secured a very important party sponsor,

4014
04:37:27,263 --> 04:37:31,105
thank you to Quantum Fiber by AT&T.

4015
04:37:31,105 --> 04:37:36,505
And thank you to the firm advertising agency, Chapman

4016
04:37:36,868 --> 04:37:40,468
Insurance Agency and two custom sponsorships

4017
04:37:42,950 --> 04:37:45,423
Joe's Pizzeria and Restaurant and Bath Theater.

4018
04:37:45,423 --> 04:37:47,531
We have plenty of space for nonprofits

4019
04:37:47,531 --> 04:37:49,935
to join in lots of ways for local businesses

4020
04:37:49,935 --> 04:37:54,115
to support the festival with monetary or in-kind donations.

4021
04:37:54,115 --> 04:37:55,615
If you're interested in knowing more

4022
04:37:55,615 --> 04:37:58,351
you can reach out to the City Clerk's office.

4023
04:37:58,351 --> 04:38:00,751
By phone or email.

4024
04:38:16,617 --> 04:38:20,455
>> I was reported to that they have collected lean payouts,

4025
04:38:20,455 --> 04:38:22,503
so for this year that's over last year.

4026
04:38:22,503 --> 04:38:25,923
Staff has been working with a group called Seahawk,

4027
04:38:25,923 --> 04:38:29,700
they have the ability to provide technical assistance

4028
04:38:29,700 --> 04:38:32,471
in the area of sustainability which also includes design.

4029
04:38:32,471 --> 04:38:36,935
We are going through our plans that we already have in place

4030
04:38:36,935 --> 04:38:39,295
and looking at what we think would

4031
04:38:39,295 --> 04:38:41,715
be the best use of this technical assistance.

4032
04:38:41,715 --> 04:38:43,510
But if City Council has anything you

4033
04:38:43,510 --> 04:38:45,677
would like to add or chime in on that you would like

4034
04:38:45,677 --> 04:38:48,200
us to consider for that, just send me an email

4035
04:38:48,200 --> 04:38:51,135
and let me know about that.

4036
04:38:51,135 --> 04:38:55,935
We were submitted a submitted alternative water supply

4037
04:38:56,815 --> 04:38:59,335
application which would put additional wells on sites,

4038
04:38:59,335 --> 04:39:00,711
should we need them.

4039
04:39:00,711 --> 04:39:03,985
Because when wells are rehabbed we take one out of service,

4040
04:39:03,985 --> 04:39:06,215
it would give us some additional reliability.

4041
04:39:06,215 --> 04:39:11,150
We submitted our paperwork for the legislative appropriation

4042
04:39:12,161 --> 04:39:13,231
for water meters.

4043
04:39:13,231 --> 04:39:16,943
As I mentioned before that bid should go out next week.

4044
04:39:16,943 --> 04:39:20,725
I want to ask if you would consider

4045
04:39:20,725 --> 04:39:24,291
an item regarding ribbon cuttings and outdoor music

4046
04:39:24,291 --> 04:39:24,791
permits.

4047
04:39:24,791 --> 04:39:27,455
It was recently, we had one business

4048
04:39:27,455 --> 04:39:31,855
that was turned in by someone to complain that they did not

4049
04:39:31,855 --> 04:39:36,655
have this particular license and frankly city staff

4050
04:39:38,790 --> 04:39:43,715
has not ever enforced these two that are actually on the books.

4051
04:39:43,715 --> 04:39:45,967
Would you be interested in discussing these

4052
04:39:45,967 --> 04:39:47,359
at a future agenda?

4053
04:39:47,359 --> 04:39:50,359
To possibly amend this requirement?

4054
04:39:54,810 --> 04:39:58,410
>> That was a yes by everybody.

4055
04:39:59,852 --> 04:40:03,895
>> Some updates by f dot, the final asphalt layers across

4056
04:40:03,895 --> 04:40:08,975
the corridor, will shift U.S. 41 northbound where surface prep

4057
04:40:08,975 --> 04:40:12,335
and normal strips will be installed in late August through

4058
04:40:12,335 --> 04:40:12,835
September.

4059
04:40:12,835 --> 04:40:16,935
The final striping and lean configuration and signaling

4060
04:40:16,935 --> 04:40:21,135
will be September to October, trafficking monitoring

4061
04:40:21,201 --> 04:40:24,961
and thermoplastic loops, and then the signal

4062
04:40:24,961 --> 04:40:27,607
will turn back on in October or November.

4063
04:40:27,607 --> 04:40:28,951
So it's making progress.

4064
04:40:28,951 --> 04:40:31,100
I know it took a while but it's getting there.

4065
04:40:31,100 --> 04:40:35,108
We will have a ribbon cutting at the beginning of the next City

4066
04:40:35,108 --> 04:40:35,775
Council meeting.

4067
04:40:35,775 --> 04:40:38,775
That will be September 9th, we will do that right away,

4068
04:40:38,775 --> 04:40:41,161
our first item at 9 a.m.

4069
04:40:41,161 --> 04:40:43,868
To officially cut the ribbon on this place.

4070
04:40:43,868 --> 04:40:47,801
And one other piece of excellent news, AdventHealth

4071
04:40:47,801 --> 04:40:51,161
received their development order approval last Friday.

4072
04:40:51,161 --> 04:40:53,950
So we are moving forward.

4073
04:40:53,950 --> 04:40:57,895
And that is all I have, thank you.

4074
04:41:01,434 --> 04:41:04,250
>> You are speedier than I am in talking but it's the MPO with

4075
04:41:04,250 --> 04:41:06,250
the traffic signal?

4076
04:41:06,350 --> 04:41:08,695
That's going to be October or November that's

4077
04:41:08,695 --> 04:41:10,385
when it's getting turned on?

4078
04:41:10,385 --> 04:41:11,175
Fantastic.

4079
04:41:11,175 --> 04:41:14,175
That is correct from her.

4080
04:41:19,800 --> 04:41:22,175
>> I think I've spoken more today than I have in the last

4081
04:41:22,175 --> 04:41:22,675
year.

4082
04:41:22,675 --> 04:41:28,675
Several things have been going on, as doctor Reichert mentioned

4083
04:41:29,959 --> 04:41:32,991
in her project updates and just now call her office has been

4084
04:41:32,991 --> 04:41:39,591
building in -- busy in helping things move along and closing

4085
04:41:40,420 --> 04:41:40,975
out lawsuits.

4086
04:41:40,975 --> 04:41:46,383
I'm pleased to announce that right now we have participated

4087
04:41:46,383 --> 04:41:51,255
in the R.J. Corman mediation yesterday, we were able to,

4088
04:41:51,255 --> 04:41:55,215
at least for now, we came to an agreement.

4089
04:41:55,215 --> 04:42:00,559
We believe that it is saving Punta Gorda residents

4090
04:42:00,559 --> 04:42:03,188
and the city over $1 million.

4091
04:42:03,188 --> 04:42:06,788
We are proud to announce that.

4092
04:42:08,775 --> 04:42:13,575
Doctor Reichert and I signed the agreement yesterday

4093
04:42:13,775 --> 04:42:16,855
but it's contingent on your approval on September 9th.

4094
04:42:16,855 --> 04:42:19,186
Once RJ Corman is approved by you guys

4095
04:42:19,186 --> 04:42:21,967
on the ninth then all lawsuits in which the city could

4096
04:42:21,967 --> 04:42:25,455
be potentially on the hook have been resolved,

4097
04:42:25,455 --> 04:42:29,750
there are no more pending lawsuits that

4098
04:42:29,750 --> 04:42:30,489
could come out of your fund.

4099
04:42:30,489 --> 04:42:34,958
I had a few phone calls while you were on break,

4100
04:42:34,958 --> 04:42:38,950
we have been able to curtail potential lawsuits

4101
04:42:38,950 --> 04:42:42,103
where those are no longer going to be sought after.

4102
04:42:42,103 --> 04:42:46,303
You will start seeing now and increase,

4103
04:42:46,719 --> 04:42:50,410
or we're moving forward now on a lot of code cases

4104
04:42:50,410 --> 04:42:54,141
that have been pushed off for many reasons.

4105
04:42:54,141 --> 04:42:56,639
Whether that's because of bankruptcies or foreclosures,

4106
04:42:56,639 --> 04:43:00,525
we have now been bringing code cases back on the docket

4107
04:43:00,525 --> 04:43:04,161
to get rid of a lot of these old homes,

4108
04:43:04,161 --> 04:43:06,302
and homes that have issues.

4109
04:43:06,302 --> 04:43:09,935
So we're going to start seeing a lot of movement on those cases.

4110
04:43:09,935 --> 04:43:13,775
We are looking to close out some of those that quite a few

4111
04:43:13,775 --> 04:43:17,375
residents have been showing concerns about .

4112
04:43:19,511 --> 04:43:23,415
And two more things, it was brought

4113
04:43:23,415 --> 04:43:29,415
to our attention on Monday that potentially if elected officials

4114
04:43:30,119 --> 04:43:33,601
have a non-disclosure agreement because they

4115
04:43:33,601 --> 04:43:36,607
have some kind of interest in a business or a property,

4116
04:43:36,607 --> 04:43:40,561
if they are still potentially subject to a conflict

4117
04:43:40,561 --> 04:43:44,163
of interest announcement when it comes to a vote.

4118
04:43:44,163 --> 04:43:47,700
I think it will be something we will have to discuss.

4119
04:43:47,700 --> 04:43:50,915
Not just with this council but for many councils

4120
04:43:50,915 --> 04:43:53,535
coming down the years as well.

4121
04:43:53,535 --> 04:43:58,548
How those procedures may have to come about as well.

4122
04:43:58,548 --> 04:44:02,695
And Dallas is still doing a wonderful job but not here

4123
04:44:02,695 --> 04:44:03,235
today.

4124
04:44:03,235 --> 04:44:06,508
She was appointed as a board member

4125
04:44:06,508 --> 04:44:09,155
to the United Way of Charlotte County.

4126
04:44:09,155 --> 04:44:13,355
Outside of that, everything is moving smoothly

4127
04:44:13,871 --> 04:44:15,790
through the legal department.

4128
04:44:15,790 --> 04:44:19,915
We will keep you guys Apprized after I hear from Mr. Barlow

4129
04:44:19,915 --> 04:44:21,915
today.

4130
04:44:23,502 --> 04:44:25,200
>> Thank you for that, great update.

4131
04:44:25,200 --> 04:44:27,456
Do we have to wait until September 9th or can we do

4132
04:44:27,456 --> 04:44:29,135
a consensus to finish it?

4133
04:44:29,135 --> 04:44:32,135
Do we have to wait?

4134
04:44:37,740 --> 04:44:39,407
>> It would probably be best to wait until September 9th

4135
04:44:39,407 --> 04:44:42,415
because of the way the agreement was written is that it would be

4136
04:44:42,415 --> 04:44:46,615
addressed at the September 9th Council meeting.

4137
04:44:53,415 --> 04:44:54,290
>> I have a question?

4138
04:44:54,290 --> 04:44:58,535
How many lawsuits were coming against the city

4139
04:44:58,535 --> 04:45:00,961
when you came into office more or less?

4140
04:45:00,961 --> 04:45:04,561
Are we talking about like 10 or 20?

4141
04:45:05,948 --> 04:45:12,548
>> There was seven, four of them never got to the point

4142
04:45:12,575 --> 04:45:15,145
of actually being filed we were able to correct the problem

4143
04:45:15,145 --> 04:45:16,175
pretty quickly.

4144
04:45:16,175 --> 04:45:20,588
Two were dismissed through the court systems because of motions

4145
04:45:20,588 --> 04:45:21,654
to dismiss.

4146
04:45:21,654 --> 04:45:24,915
And then we just have RJ Gorman who is

4147
04:45:24,915 --> 04:45:26,455
the last one floating around.

4148
04:45:26,455 --> 04:45:28,928
Now the city does have other suits

4149
04:45:28,928 --> 04:45:31,481
that are being done by insurance companies.

4150
04:45:31,481 --> 04:45:36,103
Whether that's for some kind of personal injury

4151
04:45:36,103 --> 04:45:38,687
claim a slip and fall, but they're not coming out

4152
04:45:38,687 --> 04:45:39,991
of the city's coffers.

4153
04:45:39,991 --> 04:45:41,519
They'll come out of insurance.

4154
04:45:41,519 --> 04:45:44,519
That's why you have those.

4155
04:45:49,678 --> 04:45:50,553
>> I appreciate that.

4156
04:45:50,553 --> 04:45:53,615
And I wanted the public to know that you have been working hard.

4157
04:45:53,615 --> 04:45:55,679
And we've been working behind the scenes.

4158
04:45:55,679 --> 04:45:59,155
But it's very important to get these things dismissed and taken

4159
04:45:59,155 --> 04:46:02,550
care of in every way possible.

4160
04:46:02,550 --> 04:46:03,348
So thank you.

4161
04:46:03,348 --> 04:46:05,959
What would be the actual plan regarding

4162
04:46:05,959 --> 04:46:08,468
the NDA issue you brought up?

4163
04:46:08,468 --> 04:46:15,680
If we were going to do something what would we do?

4164
04:46:16,147 --> 04:46:17,980
>> Let me give you kind of an example of it.

4165
04:46:17,980 --> 04:46:23,535
Let's say that you owned 100 acres out in farmland somewhere

4166
04:46:23,535 --> 04:46:25,231
in East Charlotte County.

4167
04:46:25,231 --> 04:46:30,555
And a data center wanted to come in and buy your land.

4168
04:46:30,555 --> 04:46:35,623
Let's say that land is going to be using the city's water

4169
04:46:35,623 --> 04:46:39,477
sources, and then you're sitting on council voting on it.

4170
04:46:39,477 --> 04:46:42,645
There could be a conflict of interest,

4171
04:46:42,645 --> 04:46:46,845
so there's also some public officials now

4172
04:46:47,761 --> 04:46:51,215
in the state of Florida who have non-disclosure agreements

4173
04:46:51,215 --> 04:46:54,711
because of corporate reasons or personal reasons

4174
04:46:54,711 --> 04:46:58,410
for their interest in corporate entities,

4175
04:46:58,410 --> 04:47:04,641
such as maybe a 501 C three or potentially an S Corp

4176
04:47:06,920 --> 04:47:09,965
that owns land, I'm just using this as an example.

4177
04:47:09,965 --> 04:47:11,975
But if you had a non-disclosure agreement where

4178
04:47:11,975 --> 04:47:14,201
you can't disclose that you own part of the property

4179
04:47:14,201 --> 04:47:16,575
but they're an elected official.

4180
04:47:16,575 --> 04:47:19,191
So there could be a conflict where if someone,

4181
04:47:19,191 --> 04:47:22,841
you could say I have an NDA I can't talk about this

4182
04:47:22,841 --> 04:47:25,263
and not have to disclose it.

4183
04:47:25,263 --> 04:47:28,263
So it's being addressed statewide,

4184
04:47:29,281 --> 04:47:35,881
that's how it'll have to come about because of the sunshine >>

4185
04:47:36,721 --> 04:47:38,221
So no immediate remedy but something

4186
04:47:38,221 --> 04:47:39,346
that we should be aware of?

4187
04:47:39,346 --> 04:47:42,542
How do we know, if someone has a nondisclosure agreement

4188
04:47:42,542 --> 04:47:44,250
we don't necessarily know what it's about

4189
04:47:44,250 --> 04:47:45,515
or what it pertains to.

4190
04:47:45,515 --> 04:47:48,495
What are our options to protect citizens

4191
04:47:48,495 --> 04:47:53,495
from having someone vote where they might have a conflict?

4192
04:47:53,495 --> 04:47:56,398
>> A lot of it has to do with your ethical duty to just

4193
04:47:56,398 --> 04:47:57,815
announce that you have a conflict.

4194
04:47:57,815 --> 04:48:01,175
But it will be something that I will

4195
04:48:01,175 --> 04:48:05,245
have to look into and kind of dig around in as well.

4196
04:48:05,245 --> 04:48:07,871
I'm not saying this has to come into effect immediately,

4197
04:48:07,871 --> 04:48:09,911
but it is something that we're going

4198
04:48:09,911 --> 04:48:14,475
to have to look into as we move forward as well.

4199
04:48:14,475 --> 04:48:18,545
And how we implement a conflict of interest vote

4200
04:48:18,545 --> 04:48:20,545
that comes about.

4201
04:48:26,179 --> 04:48:28,137
>> In the whole state is dealing with this now?

4202
04:48:28,137 --> 04:48:29,720
Have they always been dealing with it,

4203
04:48:29,720 --> 04:48:31,359
has it just come up more recently?

4204
04:48:31,359 --> 04:48:34,359
Is this a new problem?

4205
04:48:34,671 --> 04:48:39,471
Or just something that we haven't addressed before?

4206
04:48:39,681 --> 04:48:43,825
>> It's coming about on Monday we were given some documentation

4207
04:48:43,825 --> 04:48:49,632
which kind of raised some eyebrows and makes it look

4208
04:48:49,632 --> 04:48:53,890
or seem like we might have to look into it.

4209
04:48:53,890 --> 04:48:56,215
I guess it's becoming more relevant and prevalent

4210
04:48:56,215 --> 04:48:57,169
around the state.

4211
04:48:57,169 --> 04:48:59,936
But it's something that I will have to look into

4212
04:48:59,936 --> 04:49:05,936
to see how we can protect ourselves in that way.

4213
04:49:17,125 --> 04:49:20,535
>> Who do I have marked down as the contact regarding that

4214
04:49:20,535 --> 04:49:21,615
donation?

4215
04:49:21,615 --> 04:49:24,615
>> You can start with me.

4216
04:49:31,915 --> 04:49:34,535
>> I am on the FB board which is the Metropolitan Planning

4217
04:49:34,535 --> 04:49:41,870
Organization and we work very closely with fDOT and it's both

4218
04:49:41,870 --> 04:49:44,305
Punta Gorda and Charlotte County and then the airport is also

4219
04:49:44,305 --> 04:49:46,150
on that board.

4220
04:49:46,150 --> 04:49:48,815
And what is happening within the state

4221
04:49:48,815 --> 04:49:51,815
is obviously funding maybe short.

4222
04:49:53,975 --> 04:49:57,550
So the state is trying to make it

4223
04:49:57,550 --> 04:50:00,495
so our MPO board is consolidated,

4224
04:50:00,495 --> 04:50:02,835
and that's not a good situation.

4225
04:50:02,835 --> 04:50:07,395
Because we could be consolidated with Lee County, Sarasota,

4226
04:50:07,395 --> 04:50:14,595
we don't know right now how large that MPO board would look.

4227
04:50:16,805 --> 04:50:20,215
And it gives us a disadvantage as far

4228
04:50:20,215 --> 04:50:22,150
as having a seat at the table.

4229
04:50:22,150 --> 04:50:24,175
And I just want everyone to be aware of that,

4230
04:50:24,175 --> 04:50:26,768
that is going on with the MPO right

4231
04:50:26,768 --> 04:50:29,455
now throughout the entire state.

4232
04:50:29,455 --> 04:50:32,943
There are some that have consolidated and have

4233
04:50:32,943 --> 04:50:36,941
said it works fine for them, but we have a small airport here

4234
04:50:36,941 --> 04:50:39,950
and they have a seat at the table

4235
04:50:39,950 --> 04:50:40,515
and they want to continue that.

4236
04:50:40,515 --> 04:50:42,970
And I don't know about you but I definitely want them to.

4237
04:50:42,970 --> 04:50:46,992
And I want us as a city to be able to have a voice.

4238
04:50:46,992 --> 04:50:51,403
And I'm only one person on this board,

4239
04:50:51,403 --> 04:50:53,557
so this is not a good thing for us.

4240
04:50:53,557 --> 04:50:56,288
And I'll try to keep you abreast as things go on.

4241
04:50:56,288 --> 04:50:59,888
I also sent through doctor Reichert

4242
04:51:01,800 --> 04:51:04,273
some information about the Strategic Highway safety

4243
04:51:04,273 --> 04:51:07,385
plan they're trying to get down to net zero serious injuries

4244
04:51:07,385 --> 04:51:08,783
and absolutely zero deaths.

4245
04:51:08,783 --> 04:51:11,255
They do that through various ways

4246
04:51:11,255 --> 04:51:15,423
of working closely with fDOT and making sure that roadways also

4247
04:51:15,423 --> 04:51:19,915
have walkways and bicycle paths and things like that.

4248
04:51:19,915 --> 04:51:24,715
So it's a very important thing for citizens

4249
04:51:24,839 --> 04:51:27,735
to know about, we care about your safety and everything

4250
04:51:27,735 --> 04:51:31,303
that fDOT does, even lighting, it's very important to them.

4251
04:51:31,303 --> 04:51:34,903
It's all been studied, crosswalks, they

4252
04:51:35,175 --> 04:51:40,375
study even circles, the driving circles you go around,

4253
04:51:40,375 --> 04:51:44,230
they have people involved who are very knowledgeable

4254
04:51:44,230 --> 04:51:48,175
and they do all kinds of studies.

4255
04:51:48,175 --> 04:51:52,795
And I just want you to know that MPO consolidation is coming up.

4256
04:51:52,795 --> 04:51:55,325
And from a citizen who has asked me twice

4257
04:51:55,325 --> 04:51:58,775
on this, the fencing around the parking lot behind the City Hall

4258
04:51:58,775 --> 04:51:59,595
building.

4259
04:51:59,595 --> 04:52:02,540
Citizens want to have access to 41

4260
04:52:02,540 --> 04:52:05,143
if they're walking so they can cross over

4261
04:52:05,143 --> 04:52:10,790
without having to walk between the city chambers right here

4262
04:52:10,790 --> 04:52:12,101
and the hibachi restaurant.

4263
04:52:12,101 --> 04:52:14,906
I go there a lot and I love that place

4264
04:52:14,906 --> 04:52:18,170
but it's difficult when a car is coming out for a car to pull in.

4265
04:52:18,170 --> 04:52:20,135
And then you have pedestrians that

4266
04:52:20,135 --> 04:52:22,557
are forced to walk through that parking lot

4267
04:52:22,557 --> 04:52:24,967
to get out to 41 to cross.

4268
04:52:24,967 --> 04:52:30,920
They're just asking, if I park here can I --

4269
04:52:30,920 --> 04:52:34,295
or can there be an area in the fencing that's wide enough

4270
04:52:34,295 --> 04:52:37,441
for pedestrians to walk through and have access to 41 so they

4271
04:52:37,441 --> 04:52:39,535
don't have to walk through the parking lot?

4272
04:52:39,535 --> 04:52:44,935
Another thing I want to bring up to you

4273
04:52:44,953 --> 04:52:49,153
is thank you Sara for encouraging civility

4274
04:52:49,439 --> 04:52:51,663
and engagement, thank you for those exercises.

4275
04:52:51,663 --> 04:52:53,555
I think it's very important.

4276
04:52:53,555 --> 04:52:56,811
I'm also appreciating these as much

4277
04:52:56,811 --> 04:52:59,807
as you don't like your fingers working so quickly,

4278
04:52:59,807 --> 04:53:02,903
I like that you can't interrupt someone else.

4279
04:53:02,903 --> 04:53:06,343
It just forces you to not be able to interrupt other people

4280
04:53:06,343 --> 04:53:07,855
so I appreciate that.

4281
04:53:07,855 --> 04:53:10,725
Thank you also again for the civility engagement

4282
04:53:10,725 --> 04:53:14,790
exercises that you have given us.

4283
04:53:14,790 --> 04:53:18,479
Miss Eunice Wiley was a very important woman in the city,

4284
04:53:18,479 --> 04:53:22,679
she recently passed away and in 1970 she

4285
04:53:23,759 --> 04:53:28,395
became the first black teacher to integrate East Elementary

4286
04:53:28,395 --> 04:53:32,935
School in Punta Gorda Florida stepping into a role that

4287
04:53:32,935 --> 04:53:34,615
required uncommon courage and resolve

4288
04:53:34,615 --> 04:53:37,450
despite facing resistance from those who did not recognize

4289
04:53:37,450 --> 04:53:38,797
or welcome her presence.

4290
04:53:38,797 --> 04:53:40,839
She faced every challenge with grace and patience

4291
04:53:40,839 --> 04:53:43,363
and the unwavering belief in the power of education

4292
04:53:43,363 --> 04:53:46,150
to unite children of all backgrounds.

4293
04:53:46,150 --> 04:53:52,150
She went to break barriers as a black female principal,

4294
04:53:53,583 --> 04:53:57,815
she was the black female principal at Neil Armstrong

4295
04:53:57,815 --> 04:53:59,550
University --

4296
04:53:59,550 --> 04:54:02,625
elementary inspiring leadership until her retirement in 2005.

4297
04:54:02,625 --> 04:54:04,950
Throughout a distinguished career

4298
04:54:04,950 --> 04:54:05,805
spanning more than three decades she

4299
04:54:05,805 --> 04:54:10,148
served the children, families, staff of Charlotte schools

4300
04:54:10,148 --> 04:54:12,565
with tireless dedication and passion and integrity.

4301
04:54:12,565 --> 04:54:14,815
Her leadership and resilience and lifelong commitment

4302
04:54:14,815 --> 04:54:17,715
to equity and education left an indelible mark

4303
04:54:17,715 --> 04:54:21,550
on Charlotte County Schools and the Punta Gorda community.

4304
04:54:21,550 --> 04:54:23,641
Her story continues to inspire all who hear it.

4305
04:54:23,641 --> 04:54:27,455
My message today is to extend a heartfelt thanks

4306
04:54:27,455 --> 04:54:31,279
for her trailblazing service and her commitment

4307
04:54:31,279 --> 04:54:32,863
to the students of this community

4308
04:54:32,863 --> 04:54:34,745
and her legacy of courage and excellence

4309
04:54:34,745 --> 04:54:35,895
that she leaves behind.

4310
04:54:35,895 --> 04:54:39,815
Her memorial service will be August 29th if anyone

4311
04:54:39,815 --> 04:54:41,975
doesn't know about that.

4312
04:54:41,975 --> 04:54:45,815
It will be at the Life Celebration Center at 4:00.

4313
04:54:45,815 --> 04:54:49,561
They ask you to wear shades of yellow and orange in her Memory.

4314
04:54:49,561 --> 04:54:52,335
Thank you to all of the staff.

4315
04:54:52,335 --> 04:54:54,816
This was wonderful today comments staff we cannot thank

4316
04:54:54,816 --> 04:54:55,648
you enough.

4317
04:54:55,648 --> 04:55:02,248
This was a property that they were going to tear down .

4318
04:55:03,903 --> 04:55:08,203
This is a savings of not only a lot of money

4319
04:55:08,203 --> 04:55:10,748
but it just feels good here it feels like home.

4320
04:55:10,748 --> 04:55:13,735
So I appreciate you all so much.

4321
04:55:13,735 --> 04:55:18,733
Thank you doctor Reichert for being at the lead of all

4322
04:55:18,733 --> 04:55:20,250
of this I really appreciate it.

4323
04:55:20,250 --> 04:55:23,735
That's all I have comment thank you.

4324
04:55:23,735 --> 04:55:27,335
>> I agree, great discussions here today.

4325
04:55:27,890 --> 04:55:30,971
One of the things I do want to bring up,

4326
04:55:30,971 --> 04:55:33,955
we have one gentleman here in our city

4327
04:55:33,955 --> 04:55:39,150
who has been so influential and so kind in getting everything

4328
04:55:39,150 --> 04:55:43,855
done, including putting the Vietnam wall up and making

4329
04:55:43,855 --> 04:55:46,855
sure the grounds are beautiful.

4330
04:55:46,945 --> 04:55:50,805
He's bringing the Huey over to our Vietnam wall,

4331
04:55:50,805 --> 04:55:53,783
he's one heck of a wonderful veteran

4332
04:55:53,783 --> 04:55:59,161
and I would love to present a mayor's award to General Carr.

4333
04:55:59,161 --> 04:56:01,121
And I think I can do it on my own,

4334
04:56:01,121 --> 04:56:02,663
but I want a consensus from everybody

4335
04:56:02,663 --> 04:56:05,148
to say let's give this man a thank

4336
04:56:05,148 --> 04:56:06,935
you for recognizing our heroes.

4337
04:56:06,935 --> 04:56:09,983
And I wish Lisa was here to hear that as well.

4338
04:56:09,983 --> 04:56:13,850
But I think this is really important for this gentleman,

4339
04:56:13,850 --> 04:56:15,668
who is going through some medical issues right now.

4340
04:56:15,668 --> 04:56:18,588
I would like to make sure that he

4341
04:56:18,588 --> 04:56:20,517
knows we want to thank him so much for all

4342
04:56:20,517 --> 04:56:21,725
he has done in our community.

4343
04:56:21,725 --> 04:56:23,135
Is that okay?

4344
04:56:23,135 --> 04:56:23,988
Fantastic.

4345
04:56:23,988 --> 04:56:28,138
And hopefully we can do it when they

4346
04:56:28,138 --> 04:56:31,181
have the MIA and POW and the Huey and everything,

4347
04:56:31,181 --> 04:56:35,357
maybe we can do it at that time and have him here.

4348
04:56:35,357 --> 04:56:39,557
Thank you, I'm glad that you will

4349
04:56:39,870 --> 04:56:42,365
be looking into transparency of people

4350
04:56:42,365 --> 04:56:45,170
who don't hide behind nondisclosure agreements

4351
04:56:45,170 --> 04:56:48,610
and things like that and claim they don't have anything.

4352
04:56:48,610 --> 04:56:50,277
Think it's very important for all of us.

4353
04:56:50,277 --> 04:56:52,768
And even if you you know study that on all of us

4354
04:56:52,768 --> 04:56:54,783
I think that's important and to find.

4355
04:56:54,783 --> 04:57:00,151
And I did hear, I don't remember who agreed,

4356
04:57:00,151 --> 04:57:01,655
but I know we have talked about this

4357
04:57:01,655 --> 04:57:05,375
before but we really do need committees for public input.

4358
04:57:05,375 --> 04:57:06,759
I think it's so important.

4359
04:57:06,759 --> 04:57:09,855
I know it's more of a burden for staff time and stuff come up

4360
04:57:09,855 --> 04:57:11,567
but this is really what we're supposed

4361
04:57:11,567 --> 04:57:12,635
to do for the residents.

4362
04:57:12,635 --> 04:57:15,235
We need to accommodate and make sure we

4363
04:57:15,235 --> 04:57:16,819
have the residents heard.

4364
04:57:16,819 --> 04:57:19,820
And like Greg was saying we have some experts here.

4365
04:57:19,820 --> 04:57:23,150
Let's utilize these experts to help us out.

4366
04:57:23,150 --> 04:57:27,687
Also thank you so much for October and November,

4367
04:57:27,687 --> 04:57:31,887
I know the accidents, thank you Jeannine

4368
04:57:35,107 --> 04:57:37,550
I know you're pushing that along so thank you.

4369
04:57:37,550 --> 04:57:38,972
The Southwest Florida Regional Planning Boards

4370
04:57:38,972 --> 04:57:40,400
is one of the boards I'm on, it's

4371
04:57:40,400 --> 04:57:42,275
very similar to the Florida League of Cities,

4372
04:57:42,275 --> 04:57:43,692
it's an excellent group, what they

4373
04:57:43,692 --> 04:57:47,199
do is get all of the communities together more locally here

4374
04:57:47,199 --> 04:57:49,719
and I'm really enjoying it.

4375
04:57:49,719 --> 04:57:51,652
And I think even having other people come

4376
04:57:51,652 --> 04:57:53,735
I know we can go to Florida League of Cities stuff

4377
04:57:53,735 --> 04:57:55,995
and I think it's very important for us

4378
04:57:55,995 --> 04:57:58,677
to listen to what other people are doing and help them out.

4379
04:57:58,677 --> 04:58:05,198
And I know I present this stuff to Doctor Reichert who

4380
04:58:05,198 --> 04:58:06,281
has passed it on to staff.

4381
04:58:06,281 --> 04:58:08,950
And that might help us in the future.

4382
04:58:08,950 --> 04:58:10,103
So I gave you that this morning.

4383
04:58:10,103 --> 04:58:15,175
For that invoice, do we need to do anything with that?

4384
04:58:15,175 --> 04:58:20,175
>> That had been a city council decision to not be a member

4385
04:58:20,175 --> 04:58:23,775
themselves of the Regional Planning Commission.

4386
04:58:24,150 --> 04:58:26,117
You do know they have done a lot of work

4387
04:58:26,117 --> 04:58:29,743
with us in the beginning stages of working on these LDR.

4388
04:58:29,743 --> 04:58:33,855
We are technically a member through Charlotte County.

4389
04:58:33,855 --> 04:58:37,919
If we choose to join again I think it was under $4,000.

4390
04:58:37,919 --> 04:58:42,575
That does then reduce Charlotte County's burden by that amount

4391
04:58:42,575 --> 04:58:44,575
as well.

4392
04:58:45,348 --> 04:58:48,667
>> I know it's more money coming you keep on talking about it,

4393
04:58:48,667 --> 04:58:51,935
but it's more localized and what it does is it allows all

4394
04:58:51,935 --> 04:58:54,281
the leaders to discuss everything that's going

4395
04:58:54,281 --> 04:58:56,220
on around here in their communities,

4396
04:58:56,220 --> 04:58:59,589
and sometimes it gives us ideas about how we can make things

4397
04:58:59,589 --> 04:59:02,470
more efficient in our city instead of reinventing the wheel

4398
04:59:02,470 --> 04:59:06,231
all the time and being like what's happening over here kind

4399
04:59:06,231 --> 04:59:07,975
of like with the MPO.

4400
04:59:07,975 --> 04:59:11,375
This is us locally, that's under 4000 I think that's less than

4401
04:59:11,375 --> 04:59:14,595
a lot of what other boards ask for in price..

4402
04:59:14,595 --> 04:59:18,812
We spend more money by going to meetings and stuff

4403
04:59:18,812 --> 04:59:20,562
like that we spend a lot of money on that.

4404
04:59:20,562 --> 04:59:24,150
I think this is a drop in the hat compared to everything else.

4405
04:59:24,150 --> 04:59:26,150
Consensus?

4406
04:59:28,895 --> 04:59:32,495
I do vote on it, yes.

4407
04:59:35,735 --> 04:59:41,397
The city has not paid any fees for us to be there.

4408
04:59:41,397 --> 04:59:46,471
So in order to make things smoothly for anything

4409
04:59:46,471 --> 04:59:50,441
they need money, and I think us as a city need

4410
04:59:50,441 --> 04:59:52,950
to pick up and pay for the benefits

4411
04:59:52,950 --> 04:59:55,695
that we've been receiving from them.

4412
04:59:58,739 --> 05:00:00,864
>> Didn't someone say the county was paying for it?

4413
05:00:00,864 --> 05:00:01,727
They haven't been?

4414
05:00:01,727 --> 05:00:04,127
Well that's on them.

4415
05:00:10,504 --> 05:00:12,879
>> In the document that you provided to me it looked like

4416
05:00:12,879 --> 05:00:17,481
the county contribution would then be reduced by what the city

4417
05:00:17,481 --> 05:00:18,708
would pay

4418
05:00:18,708 --> 05:00:21,268
>> That's correct but they have not paid it.

4419
05:00:21,268 --> 05:00:23,657
>> Do we know why?

4420
05:00:23,657 --> 05:00:25,657
Okay.

4421
05:00:29,448 --> 05:00:31,615
>> So I'm asking for a consensus to go ahead and pay

4422
05:00:31,615 --> 05:00:32,983
the city's portion.

4423
05:00:32,983 --> 05:00:35,879
Which the city would be paying to the county anyhow,

4424
05:00:35,879 --> 05:00:39,479
just that they haven't done anything.

4425
05:00:44,962 --> 05:00:48,562
>> I'd like to think about it.

4426
05:00:59,410 --> 05:01:00,874
>> Could we bring it back as an agenda item?

4427
05:01:00,874 --> 05:01:05,702
Let's do >> We'll bring it back as an agenda item.

4428
05:01:05,702 --> 05:01:07,255
Yes, that's a yes on that.

4429
05:01:07,255 --> 05:01:09,915
>> Then we can truly understand the value that the organization

4430
05:01:09,915 --> 05:01:10,975
would provide to us.

4431
05:01:10,975 --> 05:01:12,975
They have already been providing us

4432
05:01:12,975 --> 05:01:17,680
with some great value, working hand in hand with Rachel

4433
05:01:17,680 --> 05:01:20,135
and I think it's something you need to have all

4434
05:01:20,135 --> 05:01:22,535
the information to consider.

4435
05:01:23,348 --> 05:01:26,295
>> I think someone may even come out and talk to us during

4436
05:01:26,295 --> 05:01:29,735
an agenda time so you could hear all the valuable stuff

4437
05:01:29,735 --> 05:01:31,431
that's so important there.

4438
05:01:31,431 --> 05:01:36,580
So welcome back, thank you staff again you've

4439
05:01:36,580 --> 05:01:37,975
done a tremendous job thank you for everything

4440
05:01:37,975 --> 05:01:39,575
you've done to push us along.

4441
05:01:39,575 --> 05:01:42,695
And thank you to all of the improvements

4442
05:01:42,695 --> 05:01:45,791
during this crazy hurricane and stuff.

4443
05:01:45,791 --> 05:01:49,335
I think that we as a whole, our council

4444
05:01:49,335 --> 05:01:51,780
has done a tremendous job thanks to you.

4445
05:01:51,780 --> 05:01:53,100
You make us look good.

4446
05:01:53,100 --> 05:01:55,399
So thank you very much for everything.

4447
05:01:55,399 --> 05:01:59,111
And we are going to open it up to public comment.

4448
05:01:59,111 --> 05:02:02,550
I think this has been a great meeting even

4449
05:02:02,550 --> 05:02:05,275
though it's been a long one.

4450
05:02:05,275 --> 05:02:08,775
>> I just want to address the fence issue around the parking

4451
05:02:08,775 --> 05:02:12,801
lot, the fence is there because of a very expensive lawsuit that

4452
05:02:12,801 --> 05:02:17,307
the city paid for with someone falling down that slight

4453
05:02:17,307 --> 05:02:17,807
embankment.

4454
05:02:17,807 --> 05:02:21,479
So it was put in place for safety reasons,

4455
05:02:21,479 --> 05:02:24,479
and because of that lawsuit.

4456
05:02:28,680 --> 05:02:29,151
>> So that means a big no?

4457
05:02:29,151 --> 05:02:29,719
Not at all?

4458
05:02:29,719 --> 05:02:32,535
Not at all possible, even in like a different area

4459
05:02:32,535 --> 05:02:33,801
to put an opening?

4460
05:02:33,801 --> 05:02:36,215
I'm just more concerned about people walking,

4461
05:02:36,215 --> 05:02:38,615
you should see it.

4462
05:02:39,195 --> 05:02:41,943
When there's people walking and driving both ways

4463
05:02:41,943 --> 05:02:44,950
there's a lot of traffic there.

4464
05:02:44,950 --> 05:02:46,119
Because of course you have the Italian place

4465
05:02:46,119 --> 05:02:49,186
back here also, in the evening.

4466
05:02:49,186 --> 05:02:52,887
So I'm just a little concerned people just walk through there

4467
05:02:52,887 --> 05:02:54,346
like no tomorrow.

4468
05:02:54,346 --> 05:02:55,721
>> We can certainly look at that.

4469
05:02:55,721 --> 05:02:59,751
That is scheduled to be replaced in the future.

4470
05:02:59,751 --> 05:03:04,791
At that time potentially there could be an access upgrade.

4471
05:03:04,791 --> 05:03:09,950
I would give it to staff to explore.

4472
05:03:09,950 --> 05:03:12,175
>> Didn't we also agree that we would put up signs that were not

4473
05:03:12,175 --> 05:03:14,927
liable for all these trip and falls on city and public

4474
05:03:14,927 --> 05:03:15,427
property?

4475
05:03:15,427 --> 05:03:17,935
I think we definitely need that.

4476
05:03:17,935 --> 05:03:22,975
Especially hearing that we have had a nice lawsuit.

4477
05:03:22,975 --> 05:03:26,641
>> That sign has been placed in that particular parking lot.

4478
05:03:26,641 --> 05:03:29,115
>> So hopefully that won't happen again.

4479
05:03:29,115 --> 05:03:32,458
Never stops anyone from doing it though, unfortunately.

4480
05:03:32,458 --> 05:03:34,841
But thank you for the input.

4481
05:03:34,841 --> 05:03:38,435
Are we ready for public input?

4482
05:03:38,435 --> 05:03:41,435
Yes, we are getting there.

4483
05:03:45,215 --> 05:03:50,260
Okay nice soft tone, we've had a great day

4484
05:03:50,260 --> 05:03:52,551
today come a deep breaths, everyone's doing wonderful,

4485
05:03:52,551 --> 05:03:54,115
we are here for you.

4486
05:03:54,115 --> 05:03:58,105
There you go come on now you can speak.

4487
05:03:58,105 --> 05:03:59,935
State your name also.

4488
05:03:59,935 --> 05:04:03,852
>> My name is Samuel, thank you all for allowing me to speak

4489
05:04:03,852 --> 05:04:04,352
today.

4490
05:04:04,352 --> 05:04:08,151
Yes I do have a soft tone today.

4491
05:04:08,151 --> 05:04:11,219
In this historic moment of being back in the building,

4492
05:04:11,219 --> 05:04:12,875
it's very great to be here.

4493
05:04:12,875 --> 05:04:17,415
Part of me is very sad for each and every one of you

4494
05:04:17,415 --> 05:04:21,150
because the state legislature with SB 180.

4495
05:04:23,935 --> 05:04:26,868
They're taking control out of many of your hands.

4496
05:04:26,868 --> 05:04:30,335
So we spend many hours today talking

4497
05:04:30,335 --> 05:04:31,681
about the comprehensive plan.

4498
05:04:31,681 --> 05:04:35,950
I was in Desoto County yesterday and in Desoto they

4499
05:04:35,950 --> 05:04:39,961
had hired a consulting firm from the state in order

4500
05:04:39,961 --> 05:04:42,863
to explain because there comprehensive plan was

4501
05:04:42,863 --> 05:04:44,850
on the table.

4502
05:04:44,850 --> 05:04:47,415
And in that conversation, and what

4503
05:04:47,415 --> 05:04:51,495
came out of that after the meeting,

4504
05:04:51,495 --> 05:04:54,359
that they allowed me to be there and participate and learn from,

4505
05:04:54,359 --> 05:04:57,221
is that your hands are tied.

4506
05:04:57,221 --> 05:05:02,661
So you're getting a lot of pushback that none of you

4507
05:05:02,661 --> 05:05:03,761
have control over.

4508
05:05:03,761 --> 05:05:08,615
And it would be nice that if we could explain to people so when

4509
05:05:08,615 --> 05:05:10,615
all the folks are in the room today

4510
05:05:10,615 --> 05:05:15,455
and we're getting maybe a bit anxious about what they wanted

4511
05:05:15,455 --> 05:05:17,951
to see happen is that you have to realize

4512
05:05:17,951 --> 05:05:21,655
that the state legislators are taking more and more control.

4513
05:05:21,655 --> 05:05:26,841
So you have SB 180, SB 684, I'm sorry if I got those wrong,

4514
05:05:26,841 --> 05:05:29,748
but you also have the live local act

4515
05:05:29,748 --> 05:05:32,561
which has taken much control.

4516
05:05:32,561 --> 05:05:35,115
A lot of the things that you talked about today

4517
05:05:35,115 --> 05:05:37,575
were actually addressed in Desoto yesterday

4518
05:05:37,575 --> 05:05:41,775
saying that legislatively you have no control.

4519
05:05:43,335 --> 05:05:48,486
Regarding density, regarding how high you want the buildings

4520
05:05:48,486 --> 05:05:54,430
to be or how low you want them to be ,

4521
05:05:54,430 --> 05:05:56,335
there's many things that are going on that as a citizen

4522
05:05:56,335 --> 05:05:58,361
I've had to learn.

4523
05:05:58,361 --> 05:05:59,975
For myself.

4524
05:05:59,975 --> 05:06:05,575
Many times citizens don't have times to read all the things.

4525
05:06:05,575 --> 05:06:10,975
So as you know coming up here and wanting

4526
05:06:11,395 --> 05:06:13,895
to scream and yell and say why aren't you doing this for us,

4527
05:06:13,895 --> 05:06:17,855
but when I go and read I realize it's not your fault.

4528
05:06:17,855 --> 05:06:22,655
And one that I feel embarrassed about sometimes,

4529
05:06:24,235 --> 05:06:28,799
because I've read all these laws and figured out that there's

4530
05:06:28,799 --> 05:06:31,550
more things put into place.

4531
05:06:31,550 --> 05:06:35,855
So for SB 180 for example, the 2027, October of 2027,

4532
05:06:38,295 --> 05:06:42,407
there are talks that they're already trying to extend that.

4533
05:06:42,407 --> 05:06:45,175
What also came out of the Desoto meeting yesterday

4534
05:06:45,175 --> 05:06:49,775
was if a hurricane comes within 100 miles of Florida,

4535
05:06:49,775 --> 05:06:52,175
SB 180 automatically is extended.

4536
05:06:55,321 --> 05:06:56,280
>> Yes it is.

4537
05:06:56,280 --> 05:06:58,655
>> God bless you and thank you for letting me talk to you

4538
05:06:58,655 --> 05:06:59,655
today.

4539
05:06:59,655 --> 05:07:00,455
>> Thank you.

4540
05:07:00,455 --> 05:07:04,655
I'm just going to leave it live.

4541
05:07:10,728 --> 05:07:12,978
>> I have to say hands down I think everybody is going

4542
05:07:12,978 --> 05:07:16,435
to agree that this was probably one of the best meetings

4543
05:07:16,435 --> 05:07:21,548
we've had at Punta Gorda City Council in a long time.

4544
05:07:21,548 --> 05:07:25,875
I didn't see one interruption on the dais.

4545
05:07:25,875 --> 05:07:27,835
Imagine that.

4546
05:07:27,835 --> 05:07:30,505
I would like to first talk about,

4547
05:07:30,505 --> 05:07:34,895
I'm seeing some campaign signs around the city.

4548
05:07:34,895 --> 05:07:39,441
I need to know, is our fire department

4549
05:07:39,441 --> 05:07:41,107
endorsing these candidates?

4550
05:07:41,107 --> 05:07:45,307
Is this like a fire benevolence program?

4551
05:07:46,535 --> 05:07:47,495
Like the police?

4552
05:07:47,495 --> 05:07:51,495
I need to know who is doing that.

4553
05:07:51,495 --> 05:07:54,719
Another thing I want to talk about,

4554
05:07:54,719 --> 05:08:01,107
I want to talk to you all about toilet to tap.

4555
05:08:01,107 --> 05:08:03,655
Isn't that going to be great when

4556
05:08:03,655 --> 05:08:06,335
we're drinking toilet to tap?

4557
05:08:06,335 --> 05:08:11,135
That's what they have in plan for us.

4558
05:08:11,688 --> 05:08:16,215
I'm glad you brought up some of that stuff Samuel

4559
05:08:16,215 --> 05:08:20,775
because I want to talk about our legislative delegation.

4560
05:08:20,775 --> 05:08:25,575
You'd think they're representing us in this chamber?

4561
05:08:25,727 --> 05:08:26,599
No.

4562
05:08:26,599 --> 05:08:31,399
Because if they were we wouldn't have SB 180.

4563
05:08:32,575 --> 05:08:37,295
We wouldn't have half of the shenanigans going on

4564
05:08:37,295 --> 05:08:41,155
up in Tallahassee and down at the P

4565
05:08:41,155 --> 05:08:43,743
oh, same with the Democratic Party of Florida.

4566
05:08:43,743 --> 05:08:46,735
You know those two parties are just

4567
05:08:46,735 --> 05:08:49,135
subsidiaries of one another.

4568
05:08:54,950 --> 05:08:56,495
Our river is dying.

4569
05:08:57,569 --> 05:09:05,369
I want to tell you, all of you that the park, those properties

4570
05:09:06,183 --> 05:09:08,315
that we want purchased.

4571
05:09:08,315 --> 05:09:12,327
I want retention ponds come I don't see anyone else

4572
05:09:12,327 --> 05:09:17,127
up here bringing solutions or improvements to downtown

4573
05:09:17,175 --> 05:09:19,535
flooding, except Tim Ritchie.

4574
05:09:19,535 --> 05:09:25,123
I don't see anyone coming to test my canal either to find out

4575
05:09:25,123 --> 05:09:26,866
what is in my canal.

4576
05:09:26,866 --> 05:09:30,721
I have tested, I know what is in there.

4577
05:09:30,721 --> 05:09:36,121
And lastly we should be protected on social media.

4578
05:09:39,950 --> 05:09:41,950
You hear me?

4579
05:09:41,715 --> 05:09:47,715
I expect every citizen in this city to be protected.

4580
05:09:52,550 --> 05:09:55,295
Every one of you should be concerned about somebody

4581
05:09:55,295 --> 05:09:59,495
impersonating you and using your home address.

4582
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My aunt was in Vietnam, she went in as a lieutenant

4583
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and came out as a captain.

4584
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God bless everyone.