1 00:00:08,660 --> 00:00:15,200 All right. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to this regular meeting of the Rancho Santa Margarita City Council. 2 00:00:15,860 --> 00:00:20,960 And I'm going to call this meeting to order and we will begin tonight with the pledge of allegiance. 3 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:29,900 And we're honored tonight to have Girl Scout troop 2575 lead us in tonight's pledge of allegiance. 4 00:00:29,900 --> 00:00:32,180 take away girls. 5 00:00:54,160 --> 00:01:02,800 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and to the Republic for which it stands. 6 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:10,180 One nation under God in the visible with liberty and justice for all of them. 7 00:01:20,540 --> 00:01:24,460 Thank you, girls. We appreciate you being here. That was really special for us. 8 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,640 We hope you'll come see us again sometime. 9 00:01:29,950 --> 00:01:31,910 All right. Could we please have a roll call? 10 00:01:36,420 --> 00:01:43,880 Oh, my apologies, tonight is a special night, and I apologize that we started a few minutes 11 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:49,640 late because we had a lovely reception for our veterans next door, and in honor of veterans 12 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:54,660 day, not only are we doing the pledge of allegiance, but I'm going to ask that we stand 13 00:01:54,660 --> 00:02:00,820 once again because we're going to have a performance of our national anthem by Jazzlin 14 00:02:00,820 --> 00:02:05,500 so if y'all would please stand in jazling take it away 15 00:03:51,740 --> 00:03:54,040 jazling de as beautiful 16 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,780 thank you so much 17 00:04:06,660 --> 00:04:09,660 all right at this time I'm going to ask for a roll call 18 00:04:09,660 --> 00:04:16,300 Mayor Bill Mayor Potemagur council member bear here council member figure oh you're 19 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:21,940 council member hallway thank you brings us to item one which is our schedule a future 20 00:04:21,940 --> 00:04:27,380 events miss city manager. Thank you Mayor Bill and members of the city council. The November 21 00:04:27,380 --> 00:04:33,020 26th city council meeting is cancelled as was noted at the beginning of the year when the council 22 00:04:33,020 --> 00:04:38,760 approves the city calendar yearly. And then secondly we would like to advise that the city hall 23 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:44,840 will be closed on Thursday, November 27th and Friday, November 28th in observance of the Thanksgiving holiday. 24 00:04:44,840 --> 00:04:47,160 Thank you. 25 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,220 Thank you. 26 00:04:50,340 --> 00:04:55,020 Brings us to item 2 council member comments. 27 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,520 2.2 committee assignment reports. 28 00:04:59,420 --> 00:05:03,380 Item 1 that is listed is foothill eastern transportation authority. 29 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,260 I really have no report for tonight. 30 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:07,400 Excuse me, Mayor. 31 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:11,540 I'm going to. 32 00:05:11,540 --> 00:05:13,080 Well, we'll go ahead and do that. 33 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,980 So let's begin with Councilmember Comments 34 00:05:16,980 --> 00:05:18,860 and I'll turn to the mayor, Protem. 35 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:21,160 Oh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. 36 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,460 Since our last meeting, I attended the Troops 7272 37 00:05:25,460 --> 00:05:26,080 Court of Honor. 38 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:27,800 That's an all-girl scout troop. 39 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:31,380 Watch those young ladies receive the sort of thicket 40 00:05:31,380 --> 00:05:33,540 some badges that they so justly earned. 41 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,260 I also attended the 15th Annual Roses 42 00:05:36,260 --> 00:05:38,980 and Radishes Award presented by the Orange County Tax 43 00:05:38,980 --> 00:05:46,000 Affairs Association, which time Sheriff Don Barnes was honored with a royalty award in recognition 44 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:51,800 of his exceptional leadership and dedication of keeping Orange County safe and in an economically 45 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:52,980 prudent manner. 46 00:05:53,620 --> 00:05:57,560 I also, on behalf of the mayor, attended the Orange County Transportation Authority's 47 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,740 third district mayors forum along with the City Manager, Jennifer Beal, Jennifer Beal, 48 00:06:03,060 --> 00:06:08,960 Jennifer Svantes, Orange County Supervisor Don Wagner was there along with city leaders 49 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,200 from the third district, which includes Mission Viejo, Lake Forest, 50 00:06:12,380 --> 00:06:16,600 or Belinda, Villaparque, et cetera, where we discuss transportation, 51 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,000 priorities, funding sources, and regional mobility projects, 52 00:06:20,140 --> 00:06:22,860 currently under construction and occurring in the near future. 53 00:06:23,620 --> 00:06:28,060 If I may, Mr. Mayor, there's one other thing I'd like to bring up. 54 00:06:28,820 --> 00:06:30,180 Thank you. 55 00:06:30,300 --> 00:06:33,760 A resident of Rancho Santa, Margarita, Acute Patel, 56 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,340 recently passed away a few weeks ago. 57 00:06:37,340 --> 00:06:43,180 He was a co-founder and chief strategy officer of Beyond Green, a mission-driven company rooted 58 00:06:43,180 --> 00:06:47,540 in sustainability and innovation, basically environmental innovation. 59 00:06:48,460 --> 00:06:54,080 He was a proud resident, an active community member here in Rancho, Acute Carita, 60 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,680 a deep love for this city. 61 00:06:56,500 --> 00:07:00,800 Beyond Green was founded here in Rancho Santa Margarita and was a member of the Chamber 62 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,580 of Commerce here in Rancho. 63 00:07:02,580 --> 00:07:09,200 He was passionate about sustainability, dedicating his professional life to reducing plastic 64 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,540 pollution and building environmentally responsible systems through his work. 65 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:20,260 He and his father, V.J. and his brother, Rudy, have been great supporters of a variety 66 00:07:20,260 --> 00:07:25,260 of causes here in Rancho Santa Margarita, including the Pet Adoption Center of Orange County, 67 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:31,460 donating all of their environmentally friendly dog waste bags that are used and they give 68 00:07:31,460 --> 00:07:38,560 back in so many ways on a personal note, Rudy, Vijay, and Acute volunteered with Zero Trash 69 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:45,720 quite often and dedicated, donated, that should say, supplies to me to Zero Trash on a 70 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:52,380 monthly basis. He was only 30 years old and I will ask Mr. Mayer if I may at the conclusion 71 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:58,120 of this meeting that we adjourn the meeting in honor of the memory of Acute Patel. 72 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:04,540 Thank you. Absolutely, thank you. I appreciate those comments and condolences to the family. 73 00:08:06,610 --> 00:08:08,530 Any other council member comments? 74 00:08:10,910 --> 00:08:11,570 Council member figure. 75 00:08:11,770 --> 00:08:16,190 Well, thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. I just wanted to congratulate our mayor and our 76 00:08:16,190 --> 00:08:20,190 RSM Chamber of Commerce on outstanding state of the city address last week. 77 00:08:20,410 --> 00:08:24,570 Can congratulate all the individuals and businesses that were recognized on the 78 00:08:24,570 --> 00:08:29,350 in his restaurant, USAG, Lewis Air, School of Rock, 79 00:08:29,650 --> 00:08:33,570 Uncourt, Weinbar, and the RSM neighbors magazine. 80 00:08:33,870 --> 00:08:35,730 So just thank you to, I know how much work 81 00:08:35,730 --> 00:08:38,710 that event is and think to RSM city staff 82 00:08:38,710 --> 00:08:40,990 and all the sponsors that made that event possible. 83 00:08:42,490 --> 00:08:44,030 Also, I just wanted to thank everyone 84 00:08:44,030 --> 00:08:45,510 who came out to the RSM friends 85 00:08:45,510 --> 00:08:47,750 of the library book sale this last weekend. 86 00:08:48,430 --> 00:08:52,730 I was reported to me that the sales were an excess of $13,000, 87 00:08:52,730 --> 00:08:55,810 which was a record for their book sales event. 88 00:08:56,270 --> 00:08:58,910 So thank you to all the volunteers who came out to make that a 89 00:08:58,910 --> 00:08:59,590 event possible. 90 00:09:00,230 --> 00:09:02,570 And then finally report from RSM CARES, 91 00:09:03,050 --> 00:09:07,470 their last food pantry served a record of 340 families 92 00:09:07,470 --> 00:09:08,530 that came through. 93 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:12,870 And that was up from 280 from the previous food pantry. 94 00:09:13,990 --> 00:09:16,750 And so I just want to thank RSM CARES for taking care 95 00:09:16,750 --> 00:09:20,370 of our families and community and just want to invite everybody 96 00:09:20,370 --> 00:09:25,830 out for this Saturday there's going to be another food drive at our local pavilions here from 97 00:09:25,830 --> 00:09:31,330 10 to 4 and all non-perishable donations are welcome we hope to see you out there thank you very 98 00:09:31,330 --> 00:09:38,210 much Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Mayor last month I attended the League of California 99 00:09:38,210 --> 00:09:43,210 City's annual conference along Beach and these sessions were incredibly informative and 100 00:09:43,210 --> 00:09:47,790 provided an excellent opportunity for me to learn from city council members and staff from 101 00:09:47,790 --> 00:09:54,270 across California. Some of the seminars that I attended, included, included, building at 102 00:09:54,270 --> 00:09:59,290 use-centered cities, centralizing communications to increase engagement, and addressing 103 00:09:59,290 --> 00:10:03,470 the erosion of trust and local government. A common theme throughout the conference was 104 00:10:03,470 --> 00:10:08,190 the importance of building relationships, showing respect, and truly listening to others, 105 00:10:08,550 --> 00:10:12,790 especially those with different viewpoints. It was a great reminder to me that at the end 106 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:18,250 the day, we're all human, and we all share a vested interest in making our city the best 107 00:10:18,250 --> 00:10:22,890 it can be, and I will continue to strive to build those relationships and earn your trust. 108 00:10:23,730 --> 00:10:28,610 Also, just as reminder from October through April, our some residential areas have street sweeping 109 00:10:28,610 --> 00:10:33,990 services twice a month. Help keep our some clean by moving your car on the sweeping days. If you're 110 00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:39,230 not sure which year sweeping days are, you can find that information as long along with streets sweeping 111 00:10:39,230 --> 00:10:40,870 maps on our city website. 112 00:10:42,270 --> 00:10:46,310 Then also I wanted to express my heartfelt gratitude to all the brave men and women who 113 00:10:46,310 --> 00:10:49,070 have served our country, some of who are here today. 114 00:10:49,490 --> 00:10:53,470 Your dedication and sacrifices protect the freedoms we cherish every day and I want 115 00:10:53,470 --> 00:10:54,650 to thank you for your service. 116 00:10:55,110 --> 00:10:56,190 Thank you. 117 00:10:56,490 --> 00:10:57,190 Thank you. 118 00:10:58,430 --> 00:11:04,290 I just also wanted to make reference to our recent state of the city event that Council 119 00:11:04,290 --> 00:11:09,010 I remember Figueroa mentioned, thank you to the Chamber of Commerce for putting on that event. 120 00:11:09,410 --> 00:11:12,770 And it was my honor to deliver that speech on behalf of our city. 121 00:11:13,830 --> 00:11:16,930 And I know many of you weren't there. 122 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:21,510 And just real briefly, because it's always a team effort. 123 00:11:22,050 --> 00:11:23,830 I want to share with you just a couple highlights. 124 00:11:24,690 --> 00:11:28,830 Public safety has always been this city's number one priority. 125 00:11:29,130 --> 00:11:30,150 It continues to be. 126 00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:33,050 Once again, this year, according to the FBI, 127 00:11:33,050 --> 00:11:36,710 Rancho Santa Margarita has been ranked the number one safe 128 00:11:36,710 --> 00:11:38,290 city in the state of California. 129 00:11:40,270 --> 00:11:42,950 Number 15 in the entire United States. 130 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:48,170 We finished the last year from a financial standpoint with a balanced budget. 131 00:11:48,610 --> 00:11:50,950 We had a significant surplus actually. 132 00:11:51,390 --> 00:11:59,990 And we have now saved more than one entire year's budget in terms of funds in our reserves. 133 00:11:59,990 --> 00:12:10,110 So, we are financially strong and stable, and that financial position allows us to deliver a very high level of services for the benefit of all of our residents. 134 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:18,650 And I had the privilege of highlighting a number of those programs and events that we hold through the year. 135 00:12:19,190 --> 00:12:27,810 And they truly, I believe, and from what I hear from our residents, it creates an unparalleled quality of life for all of our residents. 136 00:12:27,810 --> 00:12:41,490 For example, next door in our Bell Tower Regional Community Center, we always intended that we would offer all sorts of programs in there, but they weren't to be provided by the city. 137 00:12:41,650 --> 00:12:46,930 They were going to be provided by a volunteer organization, a nonprofit called the Bell Tower Foundation. 138 00:12:47,570 --> 00:12:56,690 But after a few years, they just weren't able to do it. So the city decided we're going to pick that up and we're going to start providing the level of service in programs there. 139 00:12:56,690 --> 00:13:02,470 We have, and the number of those programs has increased dramatically, and there are programs 140 00:13:02,470 --> 00:13:08,510 and activities for people of all ages, from mothers and babies to literally dozens and 141 00:13:08,510 --> 00:13:14,530 dozens of programs for the benefit of the youth in this community, everything from science 142 00:13:14,530 --> 00:13:18,670 and STEM programs to arts, dancing, 143 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,140 physical activities like martial arts. 144 00:13:24,140 --> 00:13:31,360 There's literally something for every interest for our youth every day next door in the Bell Tower community center. 145 00:13:31,780 --> 00:13:37,580 We have programs for adults and seniors and those are provided in sponsored by our city. 146 00:13:37,860 --> 00:13:44,160 We put on a series of free summer concerts in the park and we have activities throughout the years, 147 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:50,340 such as our Patriot Day celebration or commemoration or flag day commemoration. 148 00:13:50,340 --> 00:13:56,340 And we put on a really big New Year's Eve event for all of our residents free of charge. 149 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:02,700 And it's those type of things that help make our community the place that it is. 150 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:08,720 One of the absolute best places to live, to raise a family or to own a business. 151 00:14:09,300 --> 00:14:13,960 And I want to say thank you to my city council colleagues because I mentioned it's a team 152 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:14,480 effort. 153 00:14:14,620 --> 00:14:18,700 To our city staff, you do a lot of the heavy lifting every day of the year, we're grateful 154 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:20,980 for your efforts and for all of our residents. 155 00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:23,980 Working together, we have a great community 156 00:14:23,980 --> 00:14:26,200 a city that we could all be very proud of. 157 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,560 So thank you for that. 158 00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:29,440 All right. 159 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,280 So that brings us then to item 2.2, 160 00:14:33,580 --> 00:14:35,200 which is committee assignment reports. 161 00:14:35,660 --> 00:14:38,680 First up is the foothill Eastern Transportation Authority. 162 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,740 I happen to be our cities representative 163 00:14:40,740 --> 00:14:43,540 on the toll road agency, and I'll be very brief. 164 00:14:43,820 --> 00:14:45,000 At our meeting in October, 165 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:55,960 We approved a new pension funding policy to proactively address future pension liabilities of that agency. 166 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,900 The budget there is substantially larger than ours here. 167 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:14,260 It's the difference between 20 million and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. And so we are trying to bring that same sort of fiscal responsibility that we have in Rancho Santa Margarita to the transportation corridor agency. 168 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:26,320 We also approved the comprehensive system-wide traffic study to support our strategic planning for future growth and capital improvement projects. 169 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:31,840 And we're also looking at possible ways to reuse some of the toll 170 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:37,140 clauses that were utilized before we went to all automatic tolling. 171 00:15:38,100 --> 00:15:44,100 And as I've mentioned, to prior meetings, we already do certain experimental or pilot programs, 172 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:49,740 for example, with the Irvine Police Department, they train their motorcycle officers in 173 00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:53,960 those facilities because they're to the side of the road, they don't distract people and 174 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,360 It's safe for them, so those are the highlights from our meeting. 175 00:15:58,340 --> 00:16:04,280 All right, second up, 2.2, number two is Orange County Public Library Advisory Board, 176 00:16:04,300 --> 00:16:05,920 and that's Council Member Figaroa. 177 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:07,740 Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. 178 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,200 I intend on the October 23rd Library Advisory Board meeting, 179 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,640 which included a presentation on O.C. Labs Capital Improvement Program 180 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,400 and their Capital Reserve Fund. 181 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,360 And the O.C. Library's Capital Improvement Program provides long-term sustainability 182 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:28,920 for library facilities throughout Orange County, ensuring all libraries are safe, welcoming and modern. 183 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:34,640 And all OC libraries are refreshed about every eight to ten years to reflect updates and technology, 184 00:16:35,860 --> 00:16:40,380 building codes, ADA requirements, and we're on terror and flooring and furniture. 185 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:47,920 And for those of you that don't know, our RSM library was actually just remodeled two years ago. 186 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,960 If you haven't seen it, I would highly suggest you go over, it's absolutely beautiful. 187 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:59,460 At the end of our meeting, O.C. libraries announced that they received a $100,000 grant from 188 00:16:59,460 --> 00:17:05,200 the Senate Assembly, Breakaway Grant Fund that will be used to create programs for children 189 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,140 on the autism spectrum. 190 00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:08,640 Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. 191 00:17:08,940 --> 00:17:09,360 Thank you. 192 00:17:09,980 --> 00:17:10,660 2.2. 193 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,600 The third item is South Orange County Watershed Management Area Executive Committee. 194 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:15,720 That's a council member bare. 195 00:17:16,380 --> 00:17:19,460 This meeting was canceled, so we didn't have it. Thank you. 196 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:20,880 Sure, no problem. 197 00:17:23,740 --> 00:17:29,720 As you're aware, and as I briefly mentioned, we're having a special day today in honor of veterans day. 198 00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:36,080 And so before we get to our veterans day, recognition and presentations, 199 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:48,320 I would like to move, should we do it now or after I'm just announcing from a council 200 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:48,740 calling. 201 00:17:48,860 --> 00:17:56,080 What is on our agenda is item 8.1, which is design review and approval to proceed with 202 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,340 a final design for the Veterans Monument. 203 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,780 I'd like to take that out of order and I'm just giving you notice we're going to move 204 00:18:03,780 --> 00:18:09,620 that right after our veterans' day presentation tonight, okay, so just so everybody knows. 205 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:15,920 And for our veterans that are in the audience after our presentation tonight, you might 206 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,660 want to just stick around for that. 207 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:26,880 So, let's move on then to item 3 presentations and proclamations and item 3.1, 208 00:18:29,550 --> 00:18:31,230 for these presentations, 209 00:18:32,510 --> 00:18:38,490 I'm going to ask that the Mayor pretend if you would join me in front of the Dines for this. 210 00:19:19,490 --> 00:19:25,270 Okay, this is item 3.1, a certificate of recognition as part of our business recognition 211 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:29,070 to VIP nails, salon, and spa. 212 00:19:30,010 --> 00:19:34,390 And at this time, I would like to invite forward Henry Gomez and Nalani 213 00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:38,530 when the owners of that great business. 214 00:20:00,450 --> 00:20:12,690 So Henry and Nalani, the Mayor Potem has a certificate of recognition from the City of Rancho Santa Margarita that we are honored to present to you tonight. 215 00:20:12,930 --> 00:20:22,570 We're also going to share with you certificates that have been delivered on behalf of our Semedy First District Assemblywoman Kate Sanchez. 216 00:20:24,250 --> 00:20:34,030 Our 30th District Senator Catherine Blake Spear, and from Washington, D.C. from our Congresswoman, the U.S. Representative Young Kim. 217 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:46,740 But seeing that the certificate of recognition from the city of the Rancho Santa Margarita is the most important. 218 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,800 I want to share with you the contents of that one. 219 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:59,160 The City Council of Rancho Santa Margarita desires to recognize and express appreciation for local businesses 220 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:06,180 that exemplify excellence, dedication, and service to both their industry and the broader 221 00:21:06,180 --> 00:21:06,860 community. 222 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:13,860 And VIP nail salon and spa offers gel manicures, impedicures, waxing, acrylics, dipping 223 00:21:13,860 --> 00:21:20,240 in thousands of colors to choose from, with convenient online booking or walk in service. 224 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:30,060 In VIP, Nail Salon and Spa, was founded back in 2019 by Henry and Nolani, both U.S. Navy veterans, 225 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:36,020 who embarked on this business venture after Henry's 30 years of faithful service and eight 226 00:21:36,020 --> 00:21:41,400 years of working for the federal government to ensure that the Rancho Santa Margarita community 227 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:47,860 had the best possible care for their hands and feet while focusing on the delivery of excellent 228 00:21:47,860 --> 00:21:48,980 customer service. 229 00:21:48,980 --> 00:21:59,280 The IP Nails, their customers experience professional customer service, attention to detail and customer-centered service, 230 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:05,000 as evidenced by stellar reviews by thousands of customers in the past six years. 231 00:22:05,740 --> 00:22:08,840 And the reputation established throughout our community. 232 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:23,320 The IP Nail Salon and Spa's emphasis on efficiency, integrity and customer satisfaction reflects the highest standards of business operations and contributes to the prosperity of our great city. 233 00:22:23,940 --> 00:22:30,200 The City of Rancho Santa Margarita is proud to be home to this veteran-owned business. 234 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:44,460 That not only provides luxurious personal care services, but also practices the highest level of health and safety protocols, honoring their customers and providing services to our community every day. 235 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:55,260 So as the mayor of this city, on behalf of all my city council colleagues in the 50,000 residents of this great city, it is our honor tonight to recognize you. 236 00:22:55,260 --> 00:22:59,180 Thank you for choosing Ranch of Santa Margarita to operate your business. 237 00:22:59,740 --> 00:23:03,520 We appreciate everything you do for our community each and every day. 238 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,320 Congratulations. 239 00:23:12,580 --> 00:23:15,120 Please take a quick picture. 240 00:23:15,300 --> 00:23:17,440 If anybody wants to come forward, you're welcome to take a picture. 241 00:23:46,170 --> 00:23:48,250 It's one of you come up and get a picture with Mom and Dad. 242 00:23:49,850 --> 00:23:50,750 We have referenced it. 243 00:23:50,910 --> 00:23:54,890 It is from Congress, some of the young kids off this here tonight. 244 00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:58,790 And I just want them to know that I was only joking when I said ours was the most important 245 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:07,640 That brings us to item 3.2 on our agenda, which is our Veterans Day recognition. 246 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,820 And I am honored to be speaking with you today on such an important occasion as we're 247 00:25:13,820 --> 00:25:16,000 celebrating tonight Veterans Day. 248 00:25:17,060 --> 00:25:24,320 We are here to honor our veterans to remember the sacrifices they have made to defend our 249 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,640 honor, duty, and our country. 250 00:25:27,420 --> 00:25:33,940 At this time, we're going to play a video to honor our veterans in City Clerk. 251 00:30:42,220 --> 00:30:51,060 Thank you so much for that beautiful presentation. At this time, I'd like to invite all of my city council colleagues to join me, right in front of the dice, for the next part of this presentation. 252 00:31:21,340 --> 00:31:30,060 Veterans Day was originally called Armistice Day, and it was designated as a day to celebrate the end of World War I. 253 00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:33,280 The first World War ended November 11, 254 00:31:35,340 --> 00:31:41,480 1918. Congress passed a resolution in 1926 for an annual 255 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:51,060 observance. And November 11 became a national holiday beginning in 1938. President Eisenhower 256 00:31:51,060 --> 00:32:00,040 signed legislation in 1954 to change the name to Veterans Day. To honor all those who 257 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,020 served in all American wars. 258 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,060 Our veterans possessed great courage, pride, determination, 259 00:32:09,140 --> 00:32:12,940 selflessness and dedication to duty and integrity. 260 00:32:13,780 --> 00:32:16,020 Our veterans left everything they knew 261 00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:19,080 as they were called to be part of something bigger 262 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,040 than themselves. 263 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,100 On veterans day and every day, 264 00:32:23,340 --> 00:32:25,880 let us all strive to show them our gratitude. 265 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,840 They so rightly deserve. 266 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:34,000 Let us recommit to pledging our full support for them in all they do. 267 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,900 So at this time, I would like to invite forward the veterans that are in attendance tonight. 268 00:32:40,340 --> 00:32:45,520 Please come forward as I call the branch of service that you served. 269 00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:50,200 First up, from the United States Army, please come forward veterans. 270 00:33:01,430 --> 00:33:01,750 Welcome. 271 00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:03,310 Glad to have you here. 272 00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:05,030 Thank you for calling. 273 00:33:07,170 --> 00:33:10,330 are veterans from the United States Air Forces, 274 00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:21,520 from the United States Coast Guard, 275 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:27,560 from 276 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,780 the United States Navy, 277 00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:51,060 and last but not least from the United States Marine Corps. 278 00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:10,160 We are 279 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:17,080 so honored to have each of you here tonight, and it's our privilege to call you forward 280 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:23,040 to deserve this recognition that you have earned. And we strive, as I mentioned, to try 281 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,900 show that gratitude and things every day of the year. 282 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,800 People that's have a hand for our veterans. 283 00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:31,180 Thank you. 284 00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:44,900 Jim Clements was asked me to make reference 285 00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:49,140 to and call forward any members of the United States Space Force 286 00:34:49,140 --> 00:34:50,400 that may be in attendance. 287 00:34:50,740 --> 00:34:53,580 Let's recognize that newest branch of our military. 288 00:34:55,340 --> 00:34:56,000 Thank you, Jim. 289 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,000 If we could gather nice and tight, 290 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,960 let's try and get some nice photos from tonight. 291 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:04,660 And 292 00:35:21,970 --> 00:35:27,150 everyone 293 00:35:30,190 --> 00:35:32,790 is welcome to take pictures and come forward, 294 00:36:04,460 --> 00:36:05,260 of course, on the last. 295 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:08,700 You guys are looking great. 296 00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:17,930 Would anyone like to say anything? 297 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:19,970 You don't have to? 298 00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:22,130 Yes, sir. 299 00:36:22,850 --> 00:36:23,350 On your face. 300 00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:29,410 Just want to say, thank you for your support. 301 00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:34,410 I didn't ask for it, but it means the world to me. 302 00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:38,490 I'm just really grateful that I'm here. 303 00:36:38,830 --> 00:36:39,730 And I'm really thankful. 304 00:36:41,050 --> 00:36:42,170 I did 12 years near me. 305 00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:43,130 I would have done it again. 306 00:36:43,830 --> 00:36:46,790 And it's all because also the support and the love that I have here. 307 00:36:47,010 --> 00:36:47,910 So thank you. 308 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:49,960 Thank you, Jimmy. 309 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,240 Anyone else? 310 00:36:55,970 --> 00:36:57,270 Thank you so much. 311 00:36:57,750 --> 00:37:02,170 I want to thank RSM through our tough times through COVID. 312 00:37:02,170 --> 00:37:06,010 the City Council, everybody helped us so much. 313 00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:10,350 We were using our savings to keep a float and thank God. 314 00:37:10,610 --> 00:37:12,130 Everything went well. 315 00:37:12,770 --> 00:37:16,350 We got made best friends over here with the people that come over to the shop. 316 00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:17,730 The RSM fantastic. 317 00:37:18,490 --> 00:37:26,530 I always told people if it was for the other generation that helped us keep flowing and being in the military. 318 00:37:27,090 --> 00:37:30,190 So we thank you guys for letting us keep continuing on. 319 00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:30,830 Thank you. 320 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,560 Thank you to all of our veterans, thank you so much for being here. 321 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,700 It means the world to us, thank you. 322 00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:02,670 Thank you. 323 00:38:02,930 --> 00:38:03,410 Thank you. 324 00:38:23,780 --> 00:38:32,500 That's going to bring this to item 3.3, which is Veterans of Foreign Wars, post 6024, a special presentation. 325 00:38:32,860 --> 00:38:41,480 This time I would like to invite forward, Harry Stilman, Vietnam veteran and Commander of Veterans of Foreign Wars, post 6024. 326 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,380 All 327 00:38:54,740 --> 00:39:02,560 righty. Well, you know, post 6024 spends some time around here. We are up here for your flag, 328 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:08,840 got retirement ceremonies for up here this evening. You allow us to sit up our buddy poppy tables 329 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:18,280 that venues around the city and we appreciate that very much. So in appreciation of that, 330 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,200 I would like to make this presentation to the city of Rancho Santa Margarita. 331 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:34,580 We present the certificate of appreciation and recognition of your continuing dedication, patriotism, and support to the community and to WebberJ currents for 6024. 332 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,340 Please accept our thank you from all of our members. 333 00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:41,000 They did November 12th, 2025. 334 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,180 It's our honor to accept this. 335 00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:53,100 Thank you and thank you for all that you do for our community each and every day of the year. 336 00:39:53,140 --> 00:39:54,120 Let's take a picture. 337 00:40:11,950 --> 00:40:12,230 Thank you, sir. 338 00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:12,630 Thank you. 339 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,980 That completes item three presentations and proclamations. 340 00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:15,620 And as I mentioned earlier, at this time I would like to move out of order and hear item 8.1 given that it's related to our veterans day. 341 00:41:16,420 --> 00:41:25,380 And so I'm going to call for 8.1, design review and approval to proceed with final design for the Veterans Monument. 342 00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:32,320 Mr. Parko. Good evening. Good evening, Mayor Bill. Members of City Council. I am very proud 343 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:38,580 and honored to give a presentation on this project, the Veterans Monument Project. Very 344 00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:45,380 important project for us. This presentation will discuss the design review and approval to 345 00:41:45,380 --> 00:41:48,060 proceed with final design for the Veterans Monument. 346 00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:54,030 By way of background, the Veterans 347 00:41:54,030 --> 00:42:01,750 project was proposed in 2024. The monument is proposed to be located behind the 348 00:42:01,750 --> 00:42:08,170 plaza of the flags shown here in red, right behind the parking lot. This area is 349 00:42:08,170 --> 00:42:13,810 within Samlark property, so an easement agreement will be required to be 350 00:42:13,810 --> 00:42:16,370 executed with Samlark for the construction of this project. 351 00:42:18,750 --> 00:42:19,890 There is an existing 352 00:42:19,890 --> 00:42:29,330 Veterans Monument constructed in 2015 by the Scouts of America located in this area and can be seen in the lower right photograph. 353 00:42:30,090 --> 00:42:34,310 The plaque on the Monument will be saved and salvaged with the new construction. 354 00:42:39,700 --> 00:42:46,100 The conceptual design, which is shown here, was presented to City Council at the July 10, 2024 meeting. 355 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:54,080 The conceptual design had a curved arched design, so they could fit between the olive trees 356 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,200 behind the parking lot. 357 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,260 It was going to be 12 feet in length. 358 00:42:58,380 --> 00:43:01,440 And at that meeting city council provided a few comments. 359 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,600 One of them was to construct a higher stone veneer at the bottom of the monument. 360 00:43:07,620 --> 00:43:11,160 Another one was to install benches in and around the monument area. 361 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,760 And the last final one was to propose lighting for the monument. 362 00:43:21,260 --> 00:43:26,340 So this concept design was presented and reviewed by Samlark Staff. 363 00:43:26,980 --> 00:43:28,060 We received no comments. 364 00:43:28,900 --> 00:43:38,400 However, after the review, Samlark Staff requested a field review with city staff in Samlark's landscape and facilities enhancement committee, the LFEC. 365 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:45,340 The SAMLARC LFEC is an advisory board that provides recommendations to the SAMLARC board for 366 00:43:45,340 --> 00:43:48,520 ultimate approval on proposed projects, maintenance activities, etc. 367 00:43:50,140 --> 00:43:55,180 As a result of the field meeting, the following comments were generated by the LFEC. 368 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:02,580 The LFEC had concern with the placement of the monument between the two existing olive trees. 369 00:44:02,580 --> 00:44:13,780 Their concerns were that the footing of the monument in close proximity to the roots of the trees would do damage to the roots and ultimately the health of the trees. 370 00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:28,640 The LFC wanted to maintain shade. However, they thought the monument within the canopy of the trees was not very visible and somewhat hidden and out of view. 371 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,980 It's one of their comments. 372 00:44:31,140 --> 00:44:37,000 So as a result of these comments, staff took the design back and refined the design to address 373 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,460 that LFEC comments. 374 00:44:39,940 --> 00:44:46,980 The refined design was taken to the Samark Board on October 28th by the LFEC and Samark Board 375 00:44:46,980 --> 00:44:49,180 approved the refined design at that meeting. 376 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,060 So with that background, I'm going to turn it over to Wilson Lung, Principal Engineer 377 00:44:55,060 --> 00:44:59,020 project manager to go over the details of the refined design. 378 00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:07,720 Thank you, Joe. Good evening Mayor Bill and members of the City Council on Wilson-Loon and I will be reviewing the refined design of variance of monuments tonight. 379 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:15,400 So after discussions with Sam Lark and comments required by City Council on the previous meeting, the monument was revised and rendered as seen on the screen. 380 00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:29,900 The following design considerations include the reorientation of the monuments, which rotates the structure 180 degrees and moves approximately 18 feet closer to City Hall, away from the drip line and the canopy of the olive trees. 381 00:45:30,980 --> 00:45:40,100 The design also strains out the monument and takes advantage of the additional space that was available to us and the plaques will be placed facing away from city hall as depicted. 382 00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:46,940 There will be higher stone veneer and lights will be furnished and installed to ensure the money will be visible at night. 383 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:55,560 Benches will be installed with a sample of the benches that will be installed on the bottom right over there. There will be somewhere to the ones on the breezeway of city hall. 384 00:45:56,260 --> 00:46:01,380 To accommodate these changes, we will need to remove the hedges, adjust the existing drainage 385 00:46:01,380 --> 00:46:04,520 on site, and some of the concrete panels will need to be removed. 386 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:11,140 As you can see, the rendering also depicts the potential size of the monument being 15 feet 387 00:46:11,140 --> 00:46:14,580 in length or feet in height and roughly two feet in width. 388 00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:23,130 This layout is an overhead depiction of the proposed improvements, as mentioned in the previous 389 00:46:23,130 --> 00:46:23,570 slide. 390 00:46:23,570 --> 00:46:29,350 The benches will be placed under the olive trees to take advantage of the shade divided by the trees. 391 00:46:30,310 --> 00:46:34,990 This slide also depicts the proposed easement in relation to the right away within the area. 392 00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:40,470 The blue line is the right away between City of Ranch Santa Margarita and Samark. 393 00:46:40,770 --> 00:46:45,770 And the red line is the proposed easement, which is approximately 20 feet by 20 feet. 394 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,940 This slide depicts the military seals and dedication layout as proposed. 395 00:46:54,660 --> 00:46:58,340 The sample verb is shown as part of a touch-and-beator packets. 396 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,380 However, staff will ride counsel with a more refined option to choose from a later date. 397 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,300 This slide depicts the potential heart and soft cost of the project with design and construction 398 00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:16,840 estimated at $50,000. 399 00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:25,520 And soft cost and contingency estimate at $20,000 for a total project cost of $70,000. 400 00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:33,480 This slide depicts the schedule of the turnaround time of the construction of the Veterans 401 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,100 this morning and is contingent on the approval of the easement from Samark, which we hope 402 00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:39,020 to obtain in December. 403 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,500 We anticipate the completion of the construction in May, 2026, 404 00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:48,420 with that open up questions. 405 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,240 Thank you for that presentation. 406 00:47:53,160 --> 00:48:04,020 At this time, I'm going to open this matter up to my city council colleagues, perhaps before 407 00:48:04,020 --> 00:48:07,780 We're doing so we do have a couple people that have asked to speak members of the public, 408 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,700 so why don't we hear from them first? 409 00:48:11,180 --> 00:48:16,440 So at this time I would like to first call forward Mr. Jim Clements. 410 00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:21,120 Welcome right back to your family questions. 411 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,160 Good evening, Jim. 412 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:26,500 Welcome. 413 00:48:27,540 --> 00:48:28,380 Good evening, Mayor. 414 00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:30,460 Through the council, my name is Jim Clements, retired. 415 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,440 Chief Petty Officer. 416 00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:32,540 Nice to meet you. 417 00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:36,840 To understand military veterans, there are a few things that I think you must know as we 418 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,800 think about this. 419 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,640 We left home as teenagers stepping into the unknown with courage and conviction. 420 00:48:43,540 --> 00:48:46,320 We left our country enough to defend it even with our lives. 421 00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:51,540 We set goodbye to everything familiar, family, friends, comfort and certainty. 422 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,780 We found new friends, new family, and forge bonds stronger than blood. 423 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,960 We became brothers and sisters for a guardless of race, religion, and politics. 424 00:49:00,780 --> 00:49:03,000 We had our share of good times and plenty of bad ones. 425 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,420 We didn't get enough sleep, some of us even smoked and drank too much. 426 00:49:08,860 --> 00:49:10,780 We worked hard, we played harder. 427 00:49:12,060 --> 00:49:14,080 We didn't earn much, but we gave everything. 428 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,520 We felt the joy of male call and we ate for missing the milestones. 429 00:49:20,660 --> 00:49:24,160 We didn't know when or if we would see home again. 430 00:49:24,820 --> 00:49:28,700 We grew up fast and somehow never grew up at all. 431 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,220 We fought for our freedom for the freedom of others. 432 00:49:33,540 --> 00:49:41,040 Some of us saw combat, some didn't, some face physical warfare, most face psychological warfare. 433 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,880 We endure things we can't fully explain because not all wounds are visible. 434 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,940 We honor traditions, rituals, and ceremonies that forge our unity. 435 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,700 We kind of want each other to get the job done. We face victory and tragedy. 436 00:49:57,660 --> 00:49:59,560 We celebrate it and we mourn. 437 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,760 We lost few brothers and sisters along the way. 438 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,640 When the adventure ended, some returned home. 439 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:09,100 Some started over, some never came back. 440 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,600 We tell sea stories, some hilarious, and some heartbreaking. 441 00:50:14,780 --> 00:50:17,580 We sure have found a bond few will ever understand. 442 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,180 We speak proudly of our own branch and rid the others with love. 443 00:50:22,180 --> 00:50:26,200 But when it counts, we stand together, always. 444 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:28,600 Being a veteran is earned. 445 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,420 It can never be taken away. 446 00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:34,480 It holds no price tag, but it is priceless gift. 447 00:50:35,140 --> 00:50:41,780 So on behalf of the veterans, I thank you for considering this monument to be a beacon of light for those that have served. 448 00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:43,120 Thank you. 449 00:50:45,770 --> 00:50:47,750 Thank you, Jim, for those beautiful comments. 450 00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:54,650 I'd now like to call forward Harry Stilman. 451 00:51:00,430 --> 00:51:00,970 Good evening, Harry. 452 00:51:00,970 --> 00:51:01,390 You're welcome. 453 00:51:01,890 --> 00:51:02,750 You're really mean. 454 00:51:04,270 --> 00:51:09,490 You know Jim pretty well defined who we are and why we stand together. 455 00:51:10,770 --> 00:51:15,310 I'd like to speak to a monument because that's what this discussion is about. 456 00:51:15,970 --> 00:51:24,070 In addition to serving with the VFWI also, used to ride with an outfit called Run for 457 00:51:24,070 --> 00:51:30,490 the Wall, motorcycles that run from Monterey, California to Washington, DC every May, too. 458 00:51:30,490 --> 00:51:32,970 visit our brothers and sisters on the wall. 459 00:51:33,650 --> 00:51:36,050 Now, that's a big memorial granted. 460 00:51:36,830 --> 00:51:40,050 But along the way, we stopped in the small towns 461 00:51:40,750 --> 00:51:44,010 and some of the cities and most of those cities 462 00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:46,730 have a monument to veterans. 463 00:51:47,350 --> 00:51:49,990 Some are dedicated to particular war, 464 00:51:50,090 --> 00:51:53,370 be it Vietnam, Korea, or World War II. 465 00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:56,710 But so many of the cities have a monument. 466 00:51:57,590 --> 00:52:02,790 I'm not from Russia to come on here, I'm from San Juan Capustrano. 467 00:52:04,350 --> 00:52:09,530 We have a memorial, at least we did last week, I don't know if it's still there, there's 468 00:52:09,530 --> 00:52:11,530 some discussion about taking it out. 469 00:52:12,410 --> 00:52:20,030 But I hope they don't, because on occasion, on a memorial day, or maybe, maybe veterans day, 470 00:52:20,290 --> 00:52:26,690 if I can't make a run to the wall in DC, or if I'm feeling particularly down, 471 00:52:26,690 --> 00:52:28,590 And that happens to us. 472 00:52:29,770 --> 00:52:31,990 I know I can go to the memorial. 473 00:52:32,930 --> 00:52:36,590 I can sit on the bench and I can reflect. 474 00:52:36,850 --> 00:52:39,110 I can reflect on my experiences. 475 00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:43,730 I can reflect my brothers and sisters who didn't come home. 476 00:52:44,350 --> 00:52:47,550 And it's just a quiet, peaceful place to be. 477 00:52:47,850 --> 00:52:49,250 And I think it's high time. 478 00:52:49,470 --> 00:52:53,410 The ranch of Santa Margarita also has one for their veterans. 479 00:52:53,410 --> 00:53:00,290 Because you see there's at some point after we get discharged from the military. 480 00:53:01,910 --> 00:53:07,370 We come to realize that we're never really going to be able to transition fully from military 481 00:53:07,370 --> 00:53:09,410 life to civilian life. 482 00:53:10,450 --> 00:53:14,490 We're veterans now and we always will be. 483 00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:18,350 We stand together and we're never alone. 484 00:53:19,070 --> 00:53:20,130 Thank you very much. 485 00:53:20,510 --> 00:53:21,050 Thank you, sir. 486 00:53:27,860 --> 00:53:31,020 The city clerk, do we have any other request to speak? 487 00:53:31,220 --> 00:53:31,960 There are none. 488 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,120 Anybody else care to speak on this item? 489 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,580 All right, seeing none that I'm going to now turn it over to my city council colleagues. 490 00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:46,920 If you had any questions for our staff or any comments relating to this agenda item, 491 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,480 would anyone care to begin? 492 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,180 Can't remember hallway. 493 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:52,620 Thank you, Mayor. 494 00:53:53,820 --> 00:53:57,840 On one of the earlier slides, there's a... 495 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:07,000 I think I had to do with the, I think I saw the root issues that there was issues with roots or was that one. 496 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:15,220 There we go. All of those comments and concerns have those all, I think is probably in here, 497 00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:19,320 have those all been resolved to the satisfaction staff. Okay. 498 00:54:20,340 --> 00:54:23,820 Damage to roots. Is that, what was that specifically? 499 00:54:23,820 --> 00:54:27,000 You know, that wasn't really addressed in the... 500 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,080 It had to do it the original placement of the monument, 501 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,020 because it was between the two trees. 502 00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:36,420 If you were to dig the footings or put in the footings, 503 00:54:36,660 --> 00:54:39,100 that it would potentially damage roots of the trees, 504 00:54:39,380 --> 00:54:42,760 if you tried to retain the trees and those that location, 505 00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:47,220 and rather than risk damaging the roots, 506 00:54:48,180 --> 00:54:49,780 or have to remove the trees, 507 00:54:50,140 --> 00:54:53,240 the orientation of the monument was in the placement of the monument 508 00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:57,420 change. So it's far enough away from the trees to avoid any damage. 509 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:05,340 Thank you. Are there any issues here, any hurdles, any speed bumps, any issues with this particular subject? 510 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:13,100 At this point, no, everything has been worked out. Samark has been very good to work with and provided their committee, 511 00:55:13,340 --> 00:55:20,380 their LFEC committee provided some really salient points and helped essentially make a better project. 512 00:55:20,380 --> 00:55:31,280 Thank you. Thank you. Mayor Pratem. Yes. Thank you. Very briefly. Thank you for your presentation. Just a couple of quick questions. What is on the if we look at the slide of the new. 513 00:55:31,820 --> 00:55:37,300 There we go. What is on the back side if anything. There is nothing proposed at this time. It's just. 514 00:55:37,940 --> 00:55:44,220 I can't hear you. Oh, there's nothing proposed at this time. It's a blank canvas. I noticed on the. 515 00:55:44,220 --> 00:55:49,300 The last page of our staff report has a number. 516 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:50,000 Thank you. 517 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:51,220 The service plaques. 518 00:55:51,540 --> 00:55:55,660 And one that's not on there is the POWMIA missing but not forgotten. 519 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,200 Is there a possibility we can have something akin to that, 520 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,320 or have that emblem placed on the back side, 521 00:56:03,340 --> 00:56:07,000 so that it's just not a blank wall, if you will. 522 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,140 I would think that'd be important or any other plaques 523 00:56:11,140 --> 00:56:17,860 that represent the various service that is available here. 524 00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:20,180 But I think it would be nice at the very least 525 00:56:20,180 --> 00:56:23,660 to have a POWMIA emblem on this as well. 526 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,520 So if it doesn't mess up the front, 527 00:56:25,660 --> 00:56:27,160 I think it would be nice to have it on the back. 528 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,160 So then when people come in, 529 00:56:28,260 --> 00:56:31,180 they can recognize immediately that this is a plaque 530 00:56:31,180 --> 00:56:34,480 that we have determined to honor appropriately 531 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,340 the veterans and our communities. 532 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:38,760 Thank you. 533 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,420 Mayor Protem, I'll mention that it's my understanding that there has been some discussions 534 00:56:43,420 --> 00:56:49,780 about potentially putting the names of certain distinguished Rancho Santa Margarita veterans 535 00:56:49,780 --> 00:56:54,160 on the back and that is a work in progress and there are ongoing discussions regarding 536 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,000 that as well. 537 00:56:55,020 --> 00:56:55,520 Wonderful. 538 00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:56,280 Thank you. 539 00:56:58,980 --> 00:57:07,160 I think this is a wonderful, wonderful proposal and I want to recognize and salute 540 00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:15,360 My colleague, Councilwoman Anne Figaroa, she has been the champion of this particular project 541 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,660 since it first began. 542 00:57:17,260 --> 00:57:23,920 She has been pushing for this, stuck with it, consulted with numerous people regarding it. 543 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,420 And I just want to thank you for your dedication to our veterans and all your efforts 544 00:57:28,420 --> 00:57:30,920 in connection with this particular project. 545 00:57:31,540 --> 00:57:33,520 So, I've turned over to you at this time. 546 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,420 Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. 547 00:57:36,420 --> 00:57:41,700 I was very pleased to bring this item forward a couple of years ago, but due to the timing of 548 00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:46,240 budget planning and so forth, it did get delayed a little bit until we were able to budget 549 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:51,980 for it for 2025. And over the years, I visited or had the opportunity to visit a lot of different 550 00:57:51,980 --> 00:57:57,440 city halls in South Orange County and many have monuments honoring our veterans. And of course, 551 00:57:57,700 --> 00:58:06,260 twice a year, we hold our flag day celebration, our 9-11 observance, two very patriotic events 552 00:58:06,260 --> 00:58:13,580 at City Hall and I think having a veteran monument here in Central Park here is really a perfect 553 00:58:13,580 --> 00:58:19,920 opportunity to honor all who have served our nation and protect our freedoms. I just really 554 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,700 want to thank Sam Warwick and their Board of Directors. They've spent a lot of time going over 555 00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:30,420 the design of the monument. And most importantly, this would not have gotten done if they weren't 556 00:58:30,420 --> 00:58:33,780 to grant us an easement to get this project started. 557 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,520 So my only suggestion would be I think Wilson and Joe 558 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:42,860 would just be to reverse the branches of military service 559 00:58:42,860 --> 00:58:44,100 to the other side. 560 00:58:44,580 --> 00:58:47,260 So when you're walking down to the bell tower, 561 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,000 you can see them more easily. 562 00:58:50,380 --> 00:58:53,440 And then I would prefer to have the names on the back 563 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,960 of the monument where as adjacent to the benches. 564 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:05,800 So when people are there to, you know, recognize their, their veterans or loved one, that their names are there in front of the bench. 565 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,560 So that would be my one comment. 566 00:59:08,700 --> 00:59:16,080 And then also I just wanted to let everybody know, and especially our local veterans here that if this item is approved tonight, 567 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:23,020 we'll be holding a meeting for all of our local veterans next Wednesday, November 19th at 5 p.m. 568 00:59:23,020 --> 00:59:29,840 at the Bell Tower to discuss details on the veteran name, placement, et cetera. So all of our 569 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:34,420 local veterans are invited to your town. So thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. 570 00:59:35,140 --> 00:59:42,060 Councillor member Bear. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I do have a couple of questions for you. 571 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:49,640 What exactly is in the area between the monuments and the benches? What's the ground cover? 572 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,320 It's DG, it's decomposed granite. 573 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:52,700 Okay. 574 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,720 And so there's no additional planting or anything around there. 575 00:59:56,940 --> 00:59:58,300 Not that's playing right now, no. 576 00:59:59,080 --> 00:59:59,240 Okay. 577 00:59:59,240 --> 00:59:59,520 Okay. 578 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,860 I also agree with council member figure out about the placement of the signs, just so we have something 579 01:00:07,860 --> 01:00:14,000 on the front of it, because it seems like the front of it would be facing the city hall and 580 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:22,900 the back, the MIA POW sign, the other items that you're discussing for the back would be good to 581 01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:29,460 have there, if someone's sitting there and remembers and thought, like one of our residents 582 01:00:29,460 --> 01:00:37,300 was talking about, and I'm fully supported this sign, and I really want to thank Council 583 01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:42,840 Member Figurella for her hard work and community outreach with our veterans and her perseverance 584 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:48,080 in making this veteran's monument reality. I think this monument will be a wonderful 585 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,920 addition to our city and a meaningful way to honor those who have served our country. 586 01:00:51,920 --> 01:01:01,240 so thank you. Thank you. Seeing no other comments from the City Council, we've now provided additional 587 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:07,800 direction. I would entertain a motion to approve the staff's recommendation to proceed with plans 588 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:23,240 and specifications for bidding and to prepare an easement agreement for the construction of the 589 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,360 That motion carries unanimously. Thank you. 590 01:01:34,790 --> 01:01:38,370 At this time, we're going to take a brief recess to our veterans. 591 01:01:38,530 --> 01:01:41,050 Thank you once again for your service to our country. 592 01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:42,690 Thank you for being here. 593 01:01:43,310 --> 01:01:45,590 You're welcome to hang around for the rest of our meeting. 594 01:01:45,730 --> 01:01:48,950 We're going to get down to the nitty gritty business of the city 595 01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:52,430 and you're not going to hurt anyone's feelings if you choose not to attend. 596 01:01:52,670 --> 01:01:56,110 It's been great having you here and we look forward to seeing you next year as well. 597 01:01:56,410 --> 01:01:58,390 Let's take a few minutes recess. Thank you. 598 01:02:31,140 --> 01:02:45,880 We're going to reconvene our meeting. We're back now. Item four public comments. This is the first of two opportunities to address the city council on any matter not listed on our city council's agenda. It is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the city. 599 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:56,560 Public comments are limited to three minutes per person, a time limit of 15 minutes for this particular segment. There will be a second at the end of our agenda tonight. 600 01:02:57,180 --> 01:03:03,360 Council members before we call forth the live public comments and we have a number of them tonight. 601 01:03:03,860 --> 01:03:09,240 I wanted to call your attention to an e-comment that we received from to see a search. 602 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:17,400 She wanted to let us know that in her haste to prepare her notes to speak at the October 8 meeting. 603 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:26,100 She typed reference to million when she meant to refer to the cost of the Antonio Monument Wall. 604 01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:29,220 when in fact she meant to have typed and said thousands. 605 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,840 She was aware of that. 606 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,580 She just had an inadvertent air. 607 01:03:33,660 --> 01:03:35,260 She wasn't trying to mislead anybody. 608 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,380 So those were her comments and we think you 609 01:03:39,380 --> 01:03:41,440 for that clarification to see them. 610 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:47,140 And so at this point, I'm going to begin calling forth 611 01:03:47,140 --> 01:03:50,300 our public speakers, first up, Amber Blumer. 612 01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:56,170 Good evening, welcome. 613 01:03:56,170 --> 01:04:03,190 Good evening. I am here again for I think the second or third time to request that the Council 614 01:04:03,190 --> 01:04:09,070 consider adopting a formal process by which residents can submit items for inclusion on the 615 01:04:09,070 --> 01:04:14,750 Council meeting agenda. In addition to the current method where you require two Council members 616 01:04:14,750 --> 01:04:19,690 to agree to add an item. I think this change would strengthen our local democracy. I think it would 617 01:04:19,690 --> 01:04:25,870 enhance public trust and I also think it would produce better decisions for all of us. When the 618 01:04:25,870 --> 01:04:30,830 for it in a way that can result in serious conversation, and when people feel they can have an 619 01:04:30,830 --> 01:04:35,510 impact, it creates stronger civic engagement as well as pathways for accountability for everyone. 620 01:04:36,410 --> 01:04:40,490 It helps us all remember that elected officials are public servants of all residents, 621 01:04:40,830 --> 01:04:44,390 not only those with ready access or representation by council members, 622 01:04:45,070 --> 01:04:49,350 opening the agenda process signals that the council is serious about listening to the broad 623 01:04:49,350 --> 01:04:55,010 community, not just those with established relationships inside of access or have opinions that 624 01:04:55,010 --> 01:04:56,170 line with the Council. 625 01:04:57,650 --> 01:05:03,390 Residents of this city often live the everyday reality of policy outcomes, commute times, zoning 626 01:05:03,390 --> 01:05:07,970 impacts, local infrastructure services, neighbourhood quality, safety, etc. 627 01:05:08,330 --> 01:05:12,290 By allowing public submissions of agenda items that Council would benefit from that 628 01:05:12,290 --> 01:05:16,830 lived experience, which can surface issues that staff or members might not otherwise know 629 01:05:16,830 --> 01:05:17,270 about. 630 01:05:17,810 --> 01:05:22,070 We do obviously have the public comment section like this, but currently there's no way of 631 01:05:22,070 --> 01:05:26,870 moving items from here to an actual agenda item, unless two city members feel it's important 632 01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:29,470 enough, and I don't think I've ever seen that happen. 633 01:05:30,510 --> 01:05:35,390 In addition, I believe that a system that allows public- initiated agenda items encourages 634 01:05:35,390 --> 01:05:40,330 people to become more engaged to fill their voice matters and to participate in local 635 01:05:40,330 --> 01:05:42,450 government rather than be passive observers. 636 01:05:43,230 --> 01:05:47,470 This kind of civic engagement is strongly correlated with positive outcomes for communities. 637 01:05:47,470 --> 01:05:52,410 When people see that they can bring their issues forward and know they will be considered, trust 638 01:05:52,410 --> 01:05:54,390 in local government is actually strengthened. 639 01:05:55,350 --> 01:05:59,610 Enabling more access in this way would create wonderful opportunities for new conversations 640 01:05:59,610 --> 01:06:01,210 and ideas for the city. 641 01:06:01,890 --> 01:06:06,890 This potentially challenging these potentially challenging conversations would possibly require 642 01:06:06,890 --> 01:06:11,630 bravery, openness, and heightened engagement from both the council and members of the public 643 01:06:11,630 --> 01:06:12,110 alike. 644 01:06:12,830 --> 01:06:17,330 When you think about it, requiring two council members to sponsor an agenda item may limit 645 01:06:17,330 --> 01:06:23,310 new or less-connected voices from being heard. Especially residents who might not know council members 646 01:06:23,310 --> 01:06:28,950 well, represent underserved neighborhoods or work schedules that limit outreach. By enabling 647 01:06:28,950 --> 01:06:33,870 public initiated items, the process becomes more inclusive and equitable, aligning with best 648 01:06:33,870 --> 01:06:38,570 practice frameworks that call for engagement of traditionally underrepresented groups. And it's 649 01:06:38,570 --> 01:06:43,270 my belief that this could do nothing but benefit our city. Thank you for your consideration again. 650 01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:44,670 Thank you for your comments. 651 01:06:46,050 --> 01:06:47,650 The next step is Bre and Boyle. 652 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:56,180 Good evening. 653 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:01,300 Hi, everybody. 654 01:07:03,780 --> 01:07:08,240 So we didn't plan this, but pretty on theme here. 655 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,840 I attended as far as transparency and being open to the public. 656 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:18,340 So I attended the RSM State of the city address last week that featured Mayor Bill. 657 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,120 For folks at home, did you know about this? 658 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:29,500 I assume you didn't because I was one of six, six members of the public that showed up to an event that was basically pay-walled. 659 01:07:30,060 --> 01:07:38,820 So, and I will say that Tony had to say highlights tonight because he knows that the public wasn't there, basically admitted that today. 660 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:44,500 So, Tony Biel had this event tied into the Chamber of Commerce's Business Awards, so cute, right? 661 01:07:45,060 --> 01:07:56,380 Except in order to attend this event, you had to either pay $80 for a ticket or pay $310 to be a member of the Chamber of Commerce, which is a specific organization for businesses and not regular folks. 662 01:07:57,020 --> 01:08:02,780 Or wait outside and be left in once the big fancy people were done doing their big fancy stuff that they paid to do. 663 01:08:03,620 --> 01:08:07,660 And this event was also held at the Dove Canyon Golf Club, a neighborhood behind a gate. 664 01:08:07,660 --> 01:08:09,700 That doesn't sound accessible to me. 665 01:08:10,340 --> 01:08:13,500 Shouldn't a speech given by the mayor be accessible and open to the public? 666 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,680 And yes, those of us not paying money to eat salads on white tablecloths could wait outside 667 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,800 and be let in right before the actual speech, but look at the hurdles there. 668 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,800 There were enough hurdles that only six members of the public were there. 669 01:08:26,660 --> 01:08:31,780 As a mayor in a council who also definitely gave full eye contact to the veterans who were speaking, 670 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,240 but not to people like me. 671 01:08:34,540 --> 01:08:36,760 As a mayor in a council elected by people of the city, 672 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:44,480 You should be horrified and disappointed that so few constituents were there, but I don't see that reaction now, and I didn't see it last week when I listened to Tony Speak. 673 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:51,480 He had plenty to say about how much money the city was spending on things and even touted the hundreds of thousands of dollars they've yet to spend but have committed 674 01:08:51,480 --> 01:08:59,480 to the new fancy fences to be installed on Antonio Parkway so we can look as pretty as Rancho Mission VA Hope. This is something Tony is super concerned about. 675 01:08:59,480 --> 01:09:04,660 This annual speech used to be held in a city center, welcoming anyone to attend in a public space. 676 01:09:05,020 --> 01:09:05,920 That is no longer happening. 677 01:09:06,740 --> 01:09:10,240 And I would like the city council to tell us of where the video of the speech is. 678 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,840 Maybe I missed it, but I did look online. 679 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:18,680 So online the arson site only has some general info about the event and photos of Tony and his cronies smiling into the camera. 680 01:09:19,620 --> 01:09:27,360 In his speech last week that people didn't know what was happening and so can't find online he said that knowing what the American flag stands for is important. 681 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:32,720 that's which considering he's treating his elected position like a member's only event. 682 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:39,480 Now, PS, I know, SNAPs, PS, Tony also highlighted today the community programs that 683 01:09:39,480 --> 01:09:43,480 are some provides, but as a reminder, the same city got rid of the Boys and Girls Club that 684 01:09:43,480 --> 01:09:45,600 was a program. Thank you. 685 01:09:51,300 --> 01:09:58,540 Thanks for your comments, Brian. I'll just mention this is an annual event 686 01:09:58,540 --> 01:10:02,500 that has always been sponsored, at least in recent memory, 687 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,100 by the Chamber of Commerce, and it was videotaped, 688 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,700 and I'm certain that that will be shared publicly. 689 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,920 I think it's currently being put together 690 01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,760 by those that taped it. 691 01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,480 They're editing it to include the full speech, 692 01:10:16,620 --> 01:10:18,700 but with all the slides, so that members of the public 693 01:10:18,700 --> 01:10:22,060 that couldn't be in attendance can see the entire event. 694 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,520 And it will be shared as soon as it's available. 695 01:10:25,860 --> 01:10:28,520 That is done, not by the city, because this is a private event. 696 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:35,440 And again, that belongs to the Chamber of Commerce and the city just for purposes of clarification 697 01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:38,760 did not get rid of the boys and girls club. 698 01:10:38,820 --> 01:10:43,860 They terminated negotiations with the city and they left at an August at the expiration 699 01:10:43,860 --> 01:10:50,360 of their contract and they informed the city and the public as such but just want to make 700 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:51,920 that clarification for you. 701 01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:53,480 Next up is Mike Evo. 702 01:10:59,200 --> 01:10:59,880 Good evening, Mike. 703 01:11:00,220 --> 01:11:00,260 Welcome. 704 01:11:01,540 --> 01:11:02,520 How are you guys? 705 01:11:02,860 --> 01:11:03,060 Great. 706 01:11:03,220 --> 01:11:03,960 Thank you. 707 01:11:05,620 --> 01:11:07,020 So we got that monument. 708 01:11:07,780 --> 01:11:09,400 Veterans monument down out there. 709 01:11:09,460 --> 01:11:10,980 That's the monument I can get behind. 710 01:11:12,340 --> 01:11:17,260 So I wanted to talk about the in favor of getting an RFP out, 711 01:11:17,420 --> 01:11:21,600 but the city getting an RFP out, the update or a current audio system here, 712 01:11:22,780 --> 01:11:23,960 and to add a video feature. 713 01:11:24,180 --> 01:11:25,860 As mentioned before, we would like to 714 01:11:25,860 --> 01:11:32,140 our city to be as transparent as possible to our 50,000 residents, which all might not be able 715 01:11:32,140 --> 01:11:38,460 to attend in person. Residents who are new to the area, elderly or living abroad can still 716 01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:44,900 follow the community matters. In addition, this would save the city's staff time by reducing 717 01:11:44,900 --> 01:11:50,220 the number of public records requests by creating a digital history available online as well 718 01:11:50,220 --> 01:11:57,200 reducing misinformation. I've also done some research on this issue and I found that in 2018 719 01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:04,060 Lake Forest contracted a three-year term with prime government solutions of Utah for a cost of 720 01:12:04,060 --> 01:12:12,880 $69,600 for a three-year contract, so that's $23,000 a year. I also spoke with a general manager 721 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:19,460 I have had detects solutions in Lake Forest, 722 01:12:19,780 --> 01:12:21,720 they're a audio visual company. 723 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,320 He gave me a rough estimate starting at 50,000 724 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,660 for a bare-bone system and up from there. 725 01:12:28,140 --> 01:12:31,360 Michael has offered to demonstrate a system here 726 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:35,400 if to show the systems is already installed in other locations. 727 01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:40,780 I think at least our cities should make a good faith effort 728 01:12:40,780 --> 01:12:44,320 to explore the cost benefit of having such a system available 729 01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:45,560 for the people in the city. 730 01:12:46,620 --> 01:12:46,880 Thank you. 731 01:12:46,940 --> 01:12:47,540 Thank you, Mike. 732 01:12:47,660 --> 01:12:48,520 Appreciate your comments. 733 01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:51,940 Next up is Jacqueline Martin. 734 01:13:01,670 --> 01:13:02,030 Good evening. 735 01:13:06,110 --> 01:13:09,650 It's very meaningful to me, Veterans Day, because I have veterans 736 01:13:09,650 --> 01:13:12,730 and my family going all the way back to the Revolutionary War. 737 01:13:12,970 --> 01:13:18,430 They fought in every war for this country to protect and defend our freedom. 738 01:13:18,430 --> 01:13:19,970 That was talked about a lot tonight. 739 01:13:19,970 --> 01:13:25,430 about how the people who came, who we honored, and the monument, is for people who defended 740 01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:25,990 our freedom. 741 01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:33,610 And I find that ironic, because at this same time, this city council is actually supporting 742 01:13:33,610 --> 01:13:36,070 the eroding of those freedoms in our city. 743 01:13:38,220 --> 01:13:42,320 You know, I heard about the speech that you gave as well, that I wasn't able to attend. 744 01:13:43,140 --> 01:13:47,080 And public safety was one of the items as was the flock system. 745 01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:59,460 These past few weeks, there have been more news reports coming out about those systems being misused in other cities, including their AI systems, causing a woman to be falsely accused of committing crimes. 746 01:13:59,460 --> 01:14:05,860 The fortunately she had her own video system in her vehicle that demonstrated she was not where the 747 01:14:05,860 --> 01:14:08,900 flock systems AI said that she was when a crime was committed. 748 01:14:10,380 --> 01:14:11,520 This is an opaque system. 749 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:16,780 I asked you guys a few months ago when I spoke about this system, what the audit process 750 01:14:16,780 --> 01:14:22,640 looks like and if you have access to that, if you can provide data to the taxpayers who 751 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:28,140 are funding this system in our city, with demonstration that there is an ROI for us that 752 01:14:28,140 --> 01:14:29,700 that's actually reducing crime, 753 01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,740 whether it's helping convict people who commit crimes, 754 01:14:33,480 --> 01:14:36,860 and to make sure that the privacy and freedoms 755 01:14:36,860 --> 01:14:39,680 and rights of your citizens who you are representing 756 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,300 are being protected, and I haven't received an answer 757 01:14:43,300 --> 01:14:45,500 from anyone on this council about those items. 758 01:14:46,940 --> 01:14:48,780 And I find that also ironic, 759 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,040 because this same council won't agree to have 760 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,600 these meetings videotaped, you won't agree 761 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,960 to have transparency and accessibility for the public in the city. 762 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,100 If you're representing and making these decisions about, so you are fine with continuing to 763 01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:11,860 road our freedoms and not give us the information about the system that is invasive. It is an 764 01:15:11,860 --> 01:15:16,820 invasion of our privacy that these cameras are all over our community. That most people in the city 765 01:15:16,820 --> 01:15:20,880 don't even know where they're located. The only way to find that out is to do what I've been doing, which is 766 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:29,000 walk around and look for them. And yet you won't agree to the same level of transparency and 767 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,820 for your constituents. Thank you. 768 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,760 Thank you for your comments. Next up is Ruslan and Apologines. 769 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:40,700 Push Carl. 770 01:15:44,050 --> 01:15:44,590 Good evening. Welcome. 771 01:15:44,910 --> 01:15:46,110 Hi. Thank you. 772 01:15:47,230 --> 01:15:48,510 So a good question about... 773 01:15:49,690 --> 01:15:50,850 So next is the lake. 774 01:15:51,750 --> 01:15:54,570 There's like a promenade, like a huge walkway 775 01:15:54,570 --> 01:15:57,550 between restaurant and everything else. 776 01:15:58,030 --> 01:16:00,410 I know it's a similar property. It's not a city property. 777 01:16:01,890 --> 01:16:07,290 But I was spoken, maybe a month ago, I'd be shit, you know, can be pressure washed. 778 01:16:07,550 --> 01:16:13,470 I know it's not a city property, but for sure, maybe you can address to someone like a 779 01:16:13,470 --> 01:16:14,590 council member or whoever. 780 01:16:15,530 --> 01:16:20,190 So they, some of who know, maybe like a manager of the Sandlark, so they can get it 781 01:16:20,190 --> 01:16:25,210 attached to see, maybe they've got scheduled something, maybe not, if not, I can help. 782 01:16:26,090 --> 01:16:26,570 Yeah, 783 01:16:28,730 --> 01:16:34,070 SamLark is the organization and charge of doing that and I know that they do do that. 784 01:16:34,150 --> 01:16:36,510 I don't know if they do it often or not for your life. 785 01:16:36,810 --> 01:16:43,870 It was likely not often, you know, not often and usually you can see how, you know, guys from 786 01:16:43,870 --> 01:16:44,950 Metin as they do push-ups. 787 01:16:45,650 --> 01:16:50,210 Like these, and you've got stripes and everywhere, you've got to be done nicely. 788 01:16:51,070 --> 01:16:54,010 We could share your concerns with our friends at SamLark. 789 01:16:54,010 --> 01:16:58,590 And I would urge you, if you haven't already, send them an email or give them a call as well. 790 01:16:59,010 --> 01:17:00,570 No, I just do. Can you assign someone? 791 01:17:01,070 --> 01:17:03,050 Yeah, we'll be happy to pass that along. 792 01:17:03,470 --> 01:17:08,190 The pool, Samlark, a executive director, we can contact them and let them know. 793 01:17:08,770 --> 01:17:15,230 Oh, yeah. But I want to first see you, like see the progress, maybe participate. 794 01:17:17,010 --> 01:17:18,430 You want to volunteer to help? 795 01:17:18,530 --> 01:17:21,750 Yeah, of course. Yeah. Well, we'll mention that as well. 796 01:17:21,750 --> 01:17:25,150 Yeah, sure, but who will get in touch with Samlark? 797 01:17:25,510 --> 01:17:26,070 The city. 798 01:17:26,570 --> 01:17:31,190 I mean, like, who specifically, so I can get in touch with this person? 799 01:17:32,170 --> 01:17:35,630 If you want to leave us your phone number, we could follow up with you and work with you. 800 01:17:35,630 --> 01:17:35,970 Yeah, please, please. 801 01:17:36,150 --> 01:17:38,870 If so, it's, you can give it to our city clerk. 802 01:17:39,030 --> 01:17:39,750 Yeah, thank you so much. 803 01:17:39,890 --> 01:17:40,430 Thank you, sir. 804 01:17:40,510 --> 01:17:41,530 I appreciate your comments. 805 01:17:42,830 --> 01:17:44,490 Last up tonight is Chris McLaughlin. 806 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:49,280 Welcome, Chris. 807 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,900 evening mayor city council. 808 01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,280 I wanted to touch base about the news this week. 809 01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:02,400 Election integrity slash voter registration problems are in the news again. 810 01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:06,760 The Orange County District Attorney announced and it was picked up by the Orange County 811 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:10,900 Register and some other media outlets. The current president of the molten 812 01:18:10,900 --> 01:18:14,920 Miguel water district has actually been living in the Santa Margarita water 813 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:21,680 district for the past three years and agreed to resign rather than go to jail and I think 814 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:27,180 you'd agree to 160 hours of community service and the key thing I want to think of is 815 01:18:27,180 --> 01:18:31,300 he's actually living in the city of Rancho and the issue seems to be prevalent because I've 816 01:18:31,300 --> 01:18:39,260 seen it happen again where people move and they don't re-new the registration and it only 817 01:18:39,260 --> 01:18:43,580 takes about 10 minutes. I did it for our youngest daughter this year online. You just 818 01:18:44,500 --> 01:18:53,220 You say where you live and you use the DMV info for your signature and then they send you a ballot and it's pretty easy. 819 01:18:53,860 --> 01:19:01,080 So the bar to re-register if you move, particularly within Orange County, is really low if you're still in the state of California. 820 01:19:01,620 --> 01:19:03,600 You actually go to the same state website. 821 01:19:04,620 --> 01:19:13,040 So I guess my question is, when someone moves, it's supposed to be assumed that you want to vote where you live 822 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,980 because that affects your life more, and I think it's designed to be sort of self-inforcing. 823 01:19:18,220 --> 01:19:20,760 They figure people won't want a vote, but they don't live anymore. 824 01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,580 But there's cases where people are like, well, I still care more about those elections, even 825 01:19:25,580 --> 01:19:29,120 I don't live there, so I'm going to pretend I still do. 826 01:19:30,340 --> 01:19:31,220 So I don't know. 827 01:19:31,220 --> 01:19:36,100 I know the Orange County District Attorney is currently prosecuting someone in Stanton for a similar 828 01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:38,140 crime within the city of Stanton. 829 01:19:38,140 --> 01:19:41,960 I think the next court date is on Tuesday. 830 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:48,360 And I'm interested because I want to know what it takes to bus somebody for committing this crime. 831 01:19:48,700 --> 01:19:53,120 I think what they do is they talk to your neighbors and say, have you seen this person living here? 832 01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,120 It doesn't matter where they want to vote, it doesn't matter where they say they live, 833 01:19:57,700 --> 01:20:02,620 where you actually spend more time is where you're only legally allowed to vote, 834 01:20:02,980 --> 01:20:06,980 which is what I guess what happened was the current president of the Multinal Water District. 835 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,080 He's been running out as a permanently so to his ex-wife. 836 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:15,180 And the other question I have is, every time you get stuff for voting, it says, if you 837 01:20:15,180 --> 01:20:20,300 get mail for a voter to deliver your address, you're supposed to basically, you know, report 838 01:20:20,300 --> 01:20:21,980 them to the registrar, they don't live here. 839 01:20:22,580 --> 01:20:28,160 So the person who was getting this person's ballot at their address, so they don't live, 840 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:33,800 how was it getting to the person who doesn't live there, is there a crime in that, you know, 841 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:39,260 area two in terms of not, you know, turning in someone who doesn't live there. 842 01:20:39,260 --> 01:20:42,260 the same thing happens for our older daughter right now. She doesn't live with us anymore. 843 01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,720 I asked her today. I'm not to report you as you don't live here anymore because we've got 844 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:53,020 a ballot for this year and didn't commit fraud and turn it in. But that's just an update. Thank you. 845 01:20:53,420 --> 01:20:59,560 Bye. Thank you for your comments, Chris. Thanks also for your military service and for 846 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:09,240 being with us here tonight for Veterans Day. Appreciate that. That's the last of my 847 01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:23,980 that concludes item four, we're going to move to item five, the consent calendar, all matters on the consent calendar are to be approved in a single motion unless a member of the city council staff remember of the public ask for separate action on any item. 848 01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,500 Do we need to remove any items from the consent calendar tonight? 849 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,640 All right, seeing none, then I entertain a motion to approve the consent calendar. 850 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:40,460 So move motion in a second from council member Halloway, all in favor, please say aye. 851 01:21:40,460 --> 01:21:41,020 Aye. 852 01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:42,500 Motion carries unanimously. 853 01:21:42,860 --> 01:21:43,960 Thank you. 854 01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:46,820 Bringing us tied in six public hearing items tonight. 855 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:47,560 We have none. 856 01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:49,820 So we now are at item seven. 857 01:21:49,860 --> 01:21:50,400 New business. 858 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:59,300 7.1 is the city side fiber high speed internet infrastructure construction within our city limits. 859 01:22:00,340 --> 01:22:01,800 Mr. Parko, once again, good evening. 860 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,480 Good evening, Mr. Mayor. 861 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:04,980 Members of City Council. 862 01:22:05,980 --> 01:22:07,040 For this presentation, 863 01:22:08,020 --> 01:22:10,080 representatives from City Side Fiber, 864 01:22:10,300 --> 01:22:12,300 a fiber-based digital infrastructure 865 01:22:12,300 --> 01:22:14,000 developer and internet provider. 866 01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,160 We'll be providing a presentation 867 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,960 on their upcoming fiber deployment project. 868 01:22:28,350 --> 01:22:29,010 All right, good evening. 869 01:22:29,410 --> 01:22:30,650 Mayor Bill and council members. 870 01:22:30,770 --> 01:22:31,690 My name is Pat Thomas, 871 01:22:31,870 --> 01:22:33,170 and I'm the Director of Government Relations 872 01:22:33,170 --> 01:22:34,450 for City Side Fiber. 873 01:22:35,090 --> 01:22:35,470 Hi, Pat. 874 01:22:35,650 --> 01:22:35,770 Welcome. 875 01:22:36,250 --> 01:22:36,950 Thank you. 876 01:22:36,950 --> 01:22:43,370 I've got some slides I wanted to share with you and run through with you and explain who 877 01:22:43,370 --> 01:22:45,450 city side fiber is and what we do. 878 01:22:46,150 --> 01:22:52,370 So city side fiber is as a Mr. Parko mentioned, we are a developer operator and service 879 01:22:52,370 --> 01:22:54,710 provider for high speed internet service. 880 01:22:54,850 --> 01:23:01,290 We build an all fiber optic network and our mission is to build a network that makes the cities 881 01:23:01,290 --> 01:23:05,410 that we provide service in, some of the most connected communities and cities in the country. 882 01:23:06,070 --> 01:23:19,410 We're a locally owned company, we're based in Irvine, and we're primarily working in Orange County, South Orange County, at this time, we're actually looking at expanding out beyond the South Orange County, but that is our home currently. 883 01:23:20,370 --> 01:23:32,030 We were founded by veterans of the telecommunications industry, and our network that we construct is 100% privately funded, so it's a completely private investment in the cities that we're serving. 884 01:23:32,030 --> 01:23:40,210 It's 100% fiber optic network and I'll provide high-speed internet up to 10 gigs and that's 10 gigabits per second. 885 01:23:41,150 --> 01:23:43,930 So it's a very high speed and robust internet service. 886 01:23:44,770 --> 01:23:47,810 We are a CPCN license public utility. 887 01:23:48,130 --> 01:23:52,210 I've got a little slide in the next one here that'll talk a little bit more about that. 888 01:23:52,710 --> 01:23:54,790 And we're very focused on customer service. 889 01:23:54,790 --> 01:24:02,210 It's a we're still a small company, but we really highly value our customer service morale 890 01:24:02,210 --> 01:24:06,650 and want to provide the best experience for all the customers that we serve. 891 01:24:08,350 --> 01:24:13,990 So our CPCN, that's something that we applied for and we're issued by the California Public 892 01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:19,630 Utility Commission stands for Certificate of Public Convenience and Accessibility. Essentially means 893 01:24:19,630 --> 01:24:23,590 that we are a regulated utility in the state of California. 894 01:24:24,790 --> 01:24:30,850 we were issued that when the company was first started, that does allow us to construct infrastructure 895 01:24:30,850 --> 01:24:34,310 as other utilities within the public right of way. 896 01:24:36,260 --> 01:24:36,820 Next slide, please. 897 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:37,880 So why fiber? 898 01:24:39,020 --> 01:24:47,240 Several reasons, fiber is a very robust media for telecommunications and data transfer. 899 01:24:47,860 --> 01:24:52,400 Bandwidth has really a very high bandwidth, high capacity to transfer data. 900 01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:59,680 But the system has no data limits, essentially you're able to transmit an unlimited amount 901 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:05,680 of data over the fiber optic network has a very high speed both for the download and 902 01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,280 the upload of the data. 903 01:25:09,180 --> 01:25:14,660 Like I said, we've got a service that will go up to 10 gigabits a second, or kind of 904 01:25:14,660 --> 01:25:20,280 our base level for residential services, one gigabit per second, and that's both the download 905 01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:27,700 and the upload speed, the cable systems can get you relatively high download speed, but are very 906 01:25:27,700 --> 01:25:32,160 limited as far as the upload speeds go. So the fiber network really serves as a symmetrical 907 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:37,140 system that allows for the data transfer to occur both on the download and the upload. 908 01:25:37,460 --> 01:25:44,380 It's a very secure system, very reliable, whether it will not affect it, it's a very stable 909 01:25:44,380 --> 01:25:49,740 and reliable system. And we think it's future proof. We think the fiber infrastructure is something 910 01:25:49,740 --> 01:25:54,220 that will provide for the data transmission for current needs as well as any of the other 911 01:25:54,220 --> 01:25:58,260 future needs with all of the AI applications and things like that. 912 01:25:59,180 --> 01:25:59,780 Next slide, please. 913 01:26:00,820 --> 01:26:06,080 So the layers of connectivity, so the types of service that we provide currently in our 914 01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,680 focus is the fiber to the home market. 915 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:13,980 We intend to build the fiber optic network to be able to provide that surface to the homes 916 01:26:13,980 --> 01:26:14,660 in the community. 917 01:26:15,300 --> 01:26:19,540 We also are going to be starting a small media and business service plan, so once we have 918 01:26:19,540 --> 01:26:24,260 the infrastructure in will be able to actually extend it in and provide service to commercial 919 01:26:24,260 --> 01:26:27,420 businesses, small and medium size. 920 01:26:28,140 --> 01:26:35,200 Wireless infrastructure, so once the fiber network is in place, you can also support wireless 921 01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:36,940 or small cell antennas. 922 01:26:36,940 --> 01:26:45,480 You may have heard the wireless carriers were planning to deploy their systems using, they 923 01:26:45,480 --> 01:26:49,700 called them 5G or small cell antennas a few years ago. 924 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,980 They kind of stopped that practice because of the cost of doing that. 925 01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:55,840 And it wasn't so much the cost of the towers. 926 01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,000 It was the cost of being able to get connectivity to the towers. 927 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:03,400 So our plan is to actually have that connectivity in the ground 928 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:07,300 and be able to make that available with the cell carriers 929 01:27:07,300 --> 01:27:12,320 or looking to site new cell sites that this can then connect to our fiber network. 930 01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:17,380 And then smart to community applications, so if the city has any applications, they're looking 931 01:27:17,380 --> 01:27:21,300 at deploying throughout the community, we'll have a fiber network in place that can support 932 01:27:21,300 --> 01:27:22,860 those applications as well. 933 01:27:25,660 --> 01:27:34,020 So we call it the gig life experience that is what we refer to for our network and our service. 934 01:27:34,820 --> 01:27:36,700 It's a super high level of service. 935 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:41,440 One of the things that we found is actually throughout the country communities that have a fiber 936 01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:46,020 infrastructure in place that actually increases the value of properties in the community. 937 01:27:46,780 --> 01:27:52,380 And the statistics show that that number is around 3% increase in property values. 938 01:27:53,660 --> 01:27:58,600 The slide below there shows the speed levels of the different levels of service. 939 01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:06,520 And you can see that in a cable system that download speed can be up to a gig, 940 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:11,880 but usually not that high, and then the upload speed is usually a very slow, whereas the 941 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,940 fiber service, it's the same upload and downloads speed. 942 01:28:17,150 --> 01:28:17,890 Next slide please. 943 01:28:18,070 --> 01:28:24,690 So this slide shows kind of where we are currently, again, started in Orange County, and 944 01:28:24,690 --> 01:28:27,850 are building in numerous cities in Orange County. 945 01:28:28,050 --> 01:28:30,750 The first cities that we started in were testing the data point. 946 01:28:30,810 --> 01:28:35,270 We've built out those two cities, currently under construction in Irvine, Lake Forest, 947 01:28:35,270 --> 01:28:43,370 Mission VA-HO, and we're getting ready to start in Laguna and Negale, Laguna Hills, 948 01:28:43,650 --> 01:28:45,990 Lisa VA-HO, and Rancho Santa Margarita. 949 01:28:46,190 --> 01:28:50,390 So we're hoping to start construction in Rancho Santa Margarita right after the first 950 01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:54,030 of the year, and I'll touch it a little bit more on that in just a few slides. 951 01:28:56,280 --> 01:29:01,680 So this slide shows basically the different types of connectivity we can provide. 952 01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:03,620 I've mentioned that a little bit earlier. 953 01:29:03,620 --> 01:29:07,660 we can provide, our main focus is the fiber to the home service. 954 01:29:08,020 --> 01:29:14,840 We can also provide connectivity for other Wi-Fi needs, for cellular coverage for the 955 01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,000 small cell antennas. 956 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:21,320 We've talked to the city about the possibility if there's any need to provide connectivity 957 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:25,980 for any of your traffic signals in the community, we can hook those up to our fiber network, 958 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,960 and we'll also have the small and medium business program in place. 959 01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:46,100 So how we're planning to build out the City of Rancho Santa Margarita, we've worked with the city and we're hoping to be able to construct our network somewhat in concert with your road maintenance program. 960 01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:57,440 Our plan is to start in your zones that you're going to be doing road maintenance in next, which are the 1A, 1B and 2, and then work throughout the rest of the community. 961 01:29:58,800 --> 01:29:59,760 Next slide. 962 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:21,500 So this is a map. It's just just colors on a map there, but it actually shows what our fiber optic network will look like. If you were to zoom in on this, you can kind of see the purple lines are the backbone part of our network and then the other lines if you were to zoom in, you can see those deploy out into the various streets within the city. 963 01:30:23,420 --> 01:30:35,360 So our plan is to start as I mentioned in those zones one A1B and two and that's basically all the neighborhoods on the north or west side of the canyon. 964 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:39,420 So our plan is to start in those areas just after the first of the year. 965 01:30:39,700 --> 01:30:44,500 It's about a six month construction process to build out the fiber in those communities. 966 01:30:45,380 --> 01:30:47,920 So we intend to have that done about the middle of next year. 967 01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:51,800 We could then put those communities online onto our network. 968 01:30:52,740 --> 01:31:00,180 Our, our, our, the way we construct our network is we build the, the infrastructure in, in the road, we then put 969 01:31:00,180 --> 01:31:06,300 laddles off of the road. We go under the curb and under the sidewalk. And then we leave a connection point there. 970 01:31:06,540 --> 01:31:14,100 And then as people want to subscribe and connect to our service. We'll take it from there. We'll run it over into their house. 971 01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:20,200 We'll put a box on the side of their house. And then we'll provide the equipment and sides. 972 01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,600 So we provide the router and all the equipment they need, 973 01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:24,360 and then get them set up on the network, 974 01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,340 and then we actually are the internet service provider. 975 01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,400 So it's a turn key system with our system. 976 01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,600 We go all the way from the actual infrastructure. 977 01:31:33,220 --> 01:31:35,600 We operate that, and then we provide the internet service. 978 01:31:39,090 --> 01:31:42,050 So we really spend a lot of time and effort 979 01:31:42,050 --> 01:31:45,590 on communications to the residents in the community. 980 01:31:46,990 --> 01:31:49,570 We do several notifications to the residents, 981 01:31:49,570 --> 01:31:56,050 And initially, notifying them as to when the construction is going to take place, what's going to happen, what to expect. 982 01:31:56,210 --> 01:32:00,710 We do that with mailers, write up to the right at the beginning of the construction. 983 01:32:00,950 --> 01:32:06,670 We'll do door hangers for all the residents because the construction actually takes place in the street. 984 01:32:06,970 --> 01:32:09,730 We need to have the cars off of the street on the day of construction. 985 01:32:09,970 --> 01:32:14,070 So we'll put out no parking signs, 72 hours before the construction. 986 01:32:14,070 --> 01:32:17,850 And it's actually a very quick construction process. 987 01:32:18,030 --> 01:32:20,010 We use what's called micro-trenching. 988 01:32:20,190 --> 01:32:25,910 It's a piece of equipment that cuts a very narrow trench in the road, and then moves forward 989 01:32:25,910 --> 01:32:29,670 and then that trench is back filled on the same day that that work is done. 990 01:32:30,230 --> 01:32:33,890 We can do about one piece of equipment, can do about a thousand feet a day. 991 01:32:34,310 --> 01:32:39,730 So it's a very, very fast construction process, much faster than conventional excavation 992 01:32:39,730 --> 01:32:41,050 and trenching. 993 01:32:41,050 --> 01:32:48,770 And then we keep that communication up as the work takes place and then we use that essentially 994 01:32:48,770 --> 01:32:53,510 kind of as a marketing tool too because once we've got the construction completed and 995 01:32:53,510 --> 01:32:59,190 the network available we do hope that as many people are interested in and sign up for 996 01:32:59,190 --> 01:33:00,390 the services possible. 997 01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:02,960 Next slide. 998 01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:10,380 So this is one of our marketing pieces, this is what we would send out to the residents and 999 01:33:10,380 --> 01:33:17,080 neighborhoods. Basically shows the three different plans that we have. We have what we call the 1000 01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:22,560 connecting control. That's the one gigabit speed plan. That's currently priced at $80 a month. 1001 01:33:23,220 --> 01:33:28,440 The two gigabit plan. That's what we call the work hard. Play hard plan. That's currently priced at $95. 1002 01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:34,360 Dollars a month. And then we have a very robust five gigabit plan. That's called everything in 1003 01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:39,420 everywhere. And that's priced at $195 a month. So those are the levels of the service that we provide 1004 01:33:39,420 --> 01:33:45,280 in the community. And that concludes my presentation and I'd be happy to answer any questions. 1005 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:53,080 Thank you, Pat. Council members, any questions for city side fiber or staff? 1006 01:33:54,140 --> 01:33:56,580 To my left. Council member Halloween. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1007 01:33:57,980 --> 01:34:09,400 Those are in the audience that couldn't see that. I couldn't see it. The audience have a 1008 01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,740 They don't have it right now, but we can certainly make this act. 1009 01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:14,100 I couldn't read it even from here. 1010 01:34:14,140 --> 01:34:18,300 I don't think they probably could either, but I'd have been a good idea to have this available because. 1011 01:34:18,300 --> 01:34:19,820 Excuse me, can't we have it? 1012 01:34:19,820 --> 01:34:20,140 All the way. 1013 01:34:20,340 --> 01:34:22,160 There are copies in the back of the room. 1014 01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:23,660 Yeah, and I don't have a copy here. 1015 01:34:23,700 --> 01:34:25,000 And it's on our city website too. 1016 01:34:25,020 --> 01:34:28,720 It's much bigger point if you want to type as you want to see it. 1017 01:34:29,060 --> 01:34:38,440 Okay, so just a million questions, but this is a public utility that we can build on public right away. 1018 01:34:38,440 --> 01:34:43,420 Correct. So in terms of the city's involvement with this, this is obviously this is a 1019 01:34:43,420 --> 01:34:49,000 receive and file report. So you're letting us know that this is going to be happening 1020 01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:54,820 and you're selling a product. You're going to be advertising a product and selling a product. 1021 01:34:55,320 --> 01:35:00,960 Are you the only entity that will be offering this product or is there competition? 1022 01:35:02,820 --> 01:35:11,160 So our business model is that we construct our infrastructure and then we own it and we operate it and we offer the service. 1023 01:35:11,580 --> 01:35:12,640 Excuse me. 1024 01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:18,760 So we are essentially an alternative to your existing internet service providers here. 1025 01:35:19,060 --> 01:35:23,620 So the cable companies they provide that service will be an alternative to that. 1026 01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:30,320 Or are you the only provider of this specific service? 1027 01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:34,560 Are there any other entities that will be competing with you? 1028 01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:36,320 Not on our network. 1029 01:35:37,860 --> 01:35:42,020 We are the only provider of the service on our network, 1030 01:35:42,020 --> 01:35:43,520 on our fiber optic network. 1031 01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:44,940 Well, that's not my question. 1032 01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,820 Are there other competitors that are going to be coming 1033 01:35:47,820 --> 01:35:49,660 and doing the same thing that you are 1034 01:35:49,660 --> 01:35:51,240 and try to offer maybe a lower price 1035 01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:52,140 that you know on? 1036 01:35:52,540 --> 01:35:54,500 Well, there certainly could be. 1037 01:35:54,500 --> 01:35:57,360 There are other, oh, thank you very much. 1038 01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:00,540 There certainly could be, there are other companies 1039 01:36:00,540 --> 01:36:02,680 that are essentially doing the same thing 1040 01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:04,360 that we are in other communities 1041 01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,760 throughout the state and country, for that matter. 1042 01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,180 I don't know whether any of other companies 1043 01:36:12,140 --> 01:36:15,320 have approached City of Rancho Santa Margarita, 1044 01:36:16,700 --> 01:36:20,500 they can, and they can, they're certainly welcome to. 1045 01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,540 We typically don't pursue locations 1046 01:36:23,540 --> 01:36:26,940 that already have fiber optic infrastructure in place. 1047 01:36:28,220 --> 01:36:33,620 If there's cable infrastructure, we will construct our fiber network in locations where 1048 01:36:33,620 --> 01:36:36,580 there's cable infrastructure, because, quite frankly, it's better. 1049 01:36:37,500 --> 01:36:43,240 It's more robust, it's more state-of-the-art than the cable infrastructure. 1050 01:36:44,060 --> 01:36:50,500 What's the difference in price of cable and you guys roughly, is there 10% 20% 2% is there 1051 01:36:50,500 --> 01:36:50,820 a number? 1052 01:36:50,820 --> 01:36:58,940 You know, I don't have that, those numbers kind of vary depending upon what level of service 1053 01:36:58,940 --> 01:37:06,440 they're providing, the speeds, and the pricing that the Verizon's and the Cox and the 1054 01:37:06,440 --> 01:37:10,000 spectrum, they're pricing plans. 1055 01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:15,160 I believe we're very competitive with their pricing plan for the level of service that we 1056 01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:15,660 provide. 1057 01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:27,540 You talked about that if I ever would be on the roadway and also sidewalk, I think you mentioned might be some sidewalk. 1058 01:37:28,380 --> 01:37:34,660 Well, so our main line will run in the roadway and then we lateral off of that to get to the homes. 1059 01:37:35,140 --> 01:37:37,080 So our main line will be in the roadway. 1060 01:37:37,340 --> 01:37:40,740 We do that using the micro trenching and then our lateral wing. 1061 01:37:40,860 --> 01:37:43,520 We do that using essentially like a micro tunnel. 1062 01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:50,040 So, we'll drill under the curb, under the sidewalk, and then back to the property line. 1063 01:37:50,580 --> 01:37:55,320 And then when folks want to subscribe, we'll actually trinch that up to their home. 1064 01:37:56,200 --> 01:38:02,760 The trinching process that you describe narrow, a narrow error at 1,000 feet at one time, 1065 01:38:02,940 --> 01:38:08,900 and you seal it right away is that if someone were to look at that, the work that you just did, the construction, 1066 01:38:08,900 --> 01:38:15,860 and could they tell that there had been a disruption of the street there, or is it perfectly 1067 01:38:15,860 --> 01:38:17,800 exactly what it was before you did it? 1068 01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,760 Well, you'll be able to tell, because it actually did it. 1069 01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:28,280 Well, we do that micro trench, and then we do a restoration after that's done. 1070 01:38:28,580 --> 01:38:37,360 So we've cut that micro trench, and then we do an 18 inch wide grind of the street, and then repave over the top of that. 1071 01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:42,460 So you'll see the new paving, but it will be new pave over the top of the trench. 1072 01:38:42,580 --> 01:38:50,020 So you'll have a new paving for a distance on top of around old pave, old paving. 1073 01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:50,520 Correct. 1074 01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:57,500 And our strategy is to coordinate with the city so that hopefully our construction is done in 1075 01:38:57,500 --> 01:38:59,180 advance of your road maintenance. 1076 01:38:59,620 --> 01:39:04,540 So when you're doing slurry seals with the neighborhoods, we're trying to get ours done 1077 01:39:04,540 --> 01:39:12,220 right ahead of what your resurfacing projects after after a slurry seal is done you 1078 01:39:12,220 --> 01:39:18,280 won't see it it goes under the sidewalk so you don't you don't there's no disruption to the 1079 01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:28,500 sidewalk as one of your advertising notes you'd mentioned that a 3.1% increase in my home value 1080 01:39:28,500 --> 01:39:35,760 if I have this where where do you get that that's some national data that the national associations 1081 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:40,080 the track installation of this type of infrastructure have published. 1082 01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:41,460 What national association? 1083 01:39:41,900 --> 01:39:43,160 They're called the National Association. 1084 01:39:43,900 --> 01:39:48,800 Well, we belong to an organization called the Fiber Broadband Association FBA. 1085 01:39:48,860 --> 01:39:58,380 That's a national association that has 700 members throughout the country that do infrastructure using fiber optics. 1086 01:39:59,180 --> 01:40:05,480 And they've done studies and data collection that have provided that data. 1087 01:40:05,480 --> 01:40:10,820 So the zero organization higher that entity to come up with that number? 1088 01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:13,080 No, now we're just a member of that operation. 1089 01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:15,280 Okay. 1090 01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:18,500 That's all I have right now. 1091 01:40:18,660 --> 01:40:19,540 Thank you. 1092 01:40:19,700 --> 01:40:20,280 May I pretend? 1093 01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:20,940 Thank you. 1094 01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:21,480 Thank you, Pat. 1095 01:40:21,580 --> 01:40:22,180 Very quickly. 1096 01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:30,100 I see from the map that the first recipients of fiber would be what we call the Melinda Heights area 1097 01:40:30,100 --> 01:40:35,420 and then another area across Santa Margarita Parkway right off Bonifaceo. 1098 01:40:35,420 --> 01:40:36,860 that whole area of the hilly. 1099 01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:38,820 Yeah, for lack of a better term. 1100 01:40:39,820 --> 01:40:42,200 And I believe I heard you say that you 1101 01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:45,880 try to coordinate maintenance projects, 1102 01:40:45,940 --> 01:40:47,960 meet maintenance projects with the installation 1103 01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,360 of the fibers, that is accurate. 1104 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,220 So when it comes to the remaining zones, 1105 01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,300 three through six, would that be dependent upon 1106 01:40:55,300 --> 01:40:58,500 what the city is doing with regard to street maintenance? 1107 01:40:59,960 --> 01:41:03,460 Well, we're trying to coordinate that. 1108 01:41:03,460 --> 01:41:26,920 And I believe your schedule, I know this is very not precisely defined yet, but as to work through the rest of the city, kind of in that two, three, four, five, six, so it would be kind of going from on the other side of the canyon, they're kind of going from south to north. 1109 01:41:27,700 --> 01:41:37,020 I'm not sure exactly when those streets will be resurfaced, but I believe it's kind of in that order over the next, say, I'll call it three to five years. 1110 01:41:37,980 --> 01:41:54,000 I don't know if Joe's got any more council member, McGur. Pat Thomas came in a couple months ago and so the first thing that we did was we provided our seven year CIP to them so that they could go ahead and plan their projects ahead of our seven year CIP. 1111 01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:57,760 Okay, took some of my mouth, I mentioned the seven year CIP. 1112 01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:02,500 So right now the seven year CIP shows that the Melinda Heights 1113 01:42:02,500 --> 01:42:04,760 and the Bonifacio area, I can say Bonifacio, 1114 01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:06,900 but I think everyone knows where I'm talking about, 1115 01:42:08,540 --> 01:42:10,960 is currently getting street maintenance. 1116 01:42:11,140 --> 01:42:14,400 And we're talking about mid January or 2026 1117 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:19,060 to complete the basic fiber installation 1118 01:42:19,060 --> 01:42:22,320 and then thereafter residents would then say, 1119 01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:33,040 I want to get this. I can tell you right now there's a gentleman who's been sending me messages back and forth for quite a while regarding his desire and he happens to live in that area to the best of my knowledge. 1120 01:42:33,940 --> 01:42:39,000 So it would take until mid January of twenty twenty six to have the installation of the main fiber. 1121 01:42:39,780 --> 01:42:46,900 And thereafter if a resident wants to have it for their home, you would then install it and hook up a box or something to the right. 1122 01:42:46,900 --> 01:42:58,760 Right, how long does it take when Joe Blow calls up and says, you know, I'd like to take advantage of this, how long does it take for the installation from the street to their home? 1123 01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:16,380 Well, that can happen pretty fast. That's we call that a drop or a service connection and that's all done by our personnel. So once we get the main line in, we create in our database all of the serviceable addresses. 1124 01:43:16,380 --> 01:43:24,620 And then anyone can look up whether their address is serviceable if they are they call we'll usually get a drop or a service done within two or three weeks 1125 01:43:25,060 --> 01:43:26,500 When they request it 1126 01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:29,380 See you would anticipate by mid January of 1127 01:43:30,380 --> 01:43:30,980 2026 1128 01:43:30,980 --> 01:43:37,400 This zone one would have something online that would show whether or not it's accessible 1129 01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:43,280 Our plan is to start construction in January of 26 in that zone. 1130 01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:53,660 It's about a six month build for that zone so I would say by June or July we would then have that service available in that zone by June or July. 1131 01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,380 I got you. 1132 01:43:59,460 --> 01:44:12,280 And then our plan is that as the zones are completed we would put them online at the time that they're done and then just work through the city so that we wouldn't wait until the whole city's done to put the network online. 1133 01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:16,120 And as far as tunneling under a sidewalk, that wouldn't happen to the list, somebody said, 1134 01:44:16,300 --> 01:44:17,080 hey, I want this. 1135 01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:19,860 No, that happens when we do the main line, the main line. 1136 01:44:19,900 --> 01:44:24,040 So we actually do the main line and then we do the laterals under the sidewalk and then we 1137 01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:31,560 leave a locator, basically, for the cable that's under that's on the back side of the sidewalk. 1138 01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:32,960 So it stops at the property line. 1139 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:33,300 Yes. 1140 01:44:34,300 --> 01:44:36,340 We do all that as part of the initial build. 1141 01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:38,420 Okay. 1142 01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:39,520 Thank you. 1143 01:44:41,340 --> 01:44:41,880 To me, right? 1144 01:44:42,900 --> 01:44:43,780 Can some member figure around? 1145 01:44:43,820 --> 01:44:44,300 Hi, Pat. 1146 01:44:44,300 --> 01:44:45,680 Thank you for being here. 1147 01:44:46,260 --> 01:44:50,200 What percentage of mission VAO have you installed already? 1148 01:44:50,440 --> 01:44:52,960 So we've done about 40% of mission VAO. 1149 01:44:53,660 --> 01:44:55,480 Yeah, I just want to say everybody that is using 1150 01:44:55,480 --> 01:44:57,340 your mission VAO is very happy. 1151 01:44:57,780 --> 01:44:58,720 So we're glad you're going to be here in real time. 1152 01:44:58,740 --> 01:44:59,760 Thank you so much. 1153 01:45:15,310 --> 01:45:24,090 It's just one side of the street and then we actually do a smaller tranche going across to reach the other side of the street. 1154 01:45:24,350 --> 01:45:26,690 Okay, so the no parking would be on one side of the street? 1155 01:45:26,690 --> 01:45:29,550 It would be on both actually when the construction done. 1156 01:45:29,810 --> 01:45:31,650 Okay, and when you're talking about 1157 01:45:31,650 --> 01:45:36,690 doing trenching from the locator point over the sidewalk to the home, 1158 01:45:36,930 --> 01:45:39,350 are you actually having to dig trenches then? 1159 01:45:40,050 --> 01:45:42,370 We do, and we coordinate that with each individual 1160 01:45:42,370 --> 01:45:46,710 resident as to where the best location to do that trench would be. 1161 01:45:46,830 --> 01:45:51,890 If they've got some landscape areas or some place where that would be 1162 01:45:51,890 --> 01:45:54,750 least of true symptoms to be able to do that into their home. 1163 01:45:54,750 --> 01:46:05,970 Okay, and what assurances do we have that there's not going to be any gas lines or other lines impacted or cut during this process? 1164 01:46:06,710 --> 01:46:10,630 Well we do a pretty extensive review of where the existing utilities are. 1165 01:46:10,770 --> 01:46:15,290 So we reach out to all the utility companies and ask for their existing record information. 1166 01:46:15,730 --> 01:46:23,110 We show that on our plans we locate our trench to not be in conflict with any of those existing utilities. 1167 01:46:23,710 --> 01:46:30,670 We typically like to have our trench somewhere close to the to the gutter line, but not right on the gutter line a little ways off 1168 01:46:30,670 --> 01:46:34,070 If there's an existing utility there, we'll move it to a different location 1169 01:46:34,070 --> 01:46:41,570 So we do a pretty extensive review of where the existing utilities are in our planning phase and then and then and then we also 1170 01:46:41,570 --> 01:46:46,950 Mark everything out when we do construction and that's another another thing I think I failed to mention 1171 01:46:46,950 --> 01:46:51,050 But prior to our construction start and this is typical for any underground construction 1172 01:46:51,050 --> 01:46:59,170 you're required to call, dig alert, and then all of the existing utilities or their providers 1173 01:46:59,170 --> 01:47:03,970 will come out and mark where all the existing utilities are located, paint that on the ground. 1174 01:47:04,610 --> 01:47:09,950 And so when our construction starts, you'll see, and the residents will see a lot of paint 1175 01:47:09,950 --> 01:47:14,950 on the ground where the existing utilities are, and that's another way to just avoid any potential 1176 01:47:14,950 --> 01:47:15,510 conflict. 1177 01:47:15,510 --> 01:47:22,210 And once we're done, we come out and send water blast all that off the street and where it was marked. 1178 01:47:22,990 --> 01:47:27,270 Okay, and you're talking about that your local company and customer service. 1179 01:47:27,970 --> 01:47:32,690 And how do you, what's the ability for customers to reach out to you? 1180 01:47:32,710 --> 01:47:38,810 Do you have, obviously, I would assume, phone, but do you have text, website, chat, all that stuff? 1181 01:47:38,810 --> 01:47:47,150 Yeah, we have a website, and I hope it's on here somewhere, but we definitely have a website. 1182 01:47:47,850 --> 01:47:53,130 The Edmetre Effect, that's kind of the primary means of contacting us and checking to see if the 1183 01:47:53,130 --> 01:47:54,830 service is available and requesting the service. 1184 01:47:55,190 --> 01:47:57,410 We've definitely got phone service available. 1185 01:47:57,850 --> 01:47:58,870 We do have tech service. 1186 01:47:59,210 --> 01:48:05,070 Our call center is in our office in Irvine, so you're going to talk to a person when you call in. 1187 01:48:05,070 --> 01:48:08,810 and the matter of fact, our call center is right outside of our CEO's office, so we 1188 01:48:08,810 --> 01:48:17,710 get to hear all of that come in and very high priority for the company to have, we call 1189 01:48:17,710 --> 01:48:21,450 our Concierge team that provides that service at the call center. 1190 01:48:22,190 --> 01:48:26,630 Okay, and then one final question, I mean, I've heard from several residents that they're 1191 01:48:26,630 --> 01:48:30,850 really looking forward to this and I actually happen to live in the first area. 1192 01:48:32,030 --> 01:48:38,310 When you are doing these projects, one of the things that I'm concerned about because you 1193 01:48:38,310 --> 01:48:44,710 did mention street parking is that we do have some schools and other businesses that would 1194 01:48:44,710 --> 01:48:49,730 be impacted, not businessism will indict, but in the other areas, how do you schedule 1195 01:48:49,730 --> 01:48:55,550 those things to reduce the impact on, say, a school because you have, you're taking the way 1196 01:48:55,550 --> 01:48:59,090 parking for the families, et cetera, and the route. 1197 01:48:59,350 --> 01:49:00,910 They can still drive the road or no. 1198 01:49:01,150 --> 01:49:01,850 They can't drive the road. 1199 01:49:01,850 --> 01:49:02,910 The road will be open. 1200 01:49:03,150 --> 01:49:04,530 So the road will still be open. 1201 01:49:04,590 --> 01:49:05,530 They just get a park. 1202 01:49:07,110 --> 01:49:11,410 And that no parking really in any given area is really just one day. 1203 01:49:11,550 --> 01:49:11,790 OK. 1204 01:49:12,690 --> 01:49:17,110 So like I was saying, the trencher can do about a thousand feet a day. 1205 01:49:17,550 --> 01:49:20,470 So with that, it'll be where the no parking is on one day. 1206 01:49:20,810 --> 01:49:22,810 The next day, it will be the next thousand feet. 1207 01:49:22,810 --> 01:49:28,350 And the trenches is cut, it's back filled, the conduit goes in, it's back filled, it's all done 1208 01:49:28,350 --> 01:49:29,210 on the same day. 1209 01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:34,210 So we don't leave any open trench, anything open on the road after the work is done. 1210 01:49:34,450 --> 01:49:35,410 How loud is it cutting? 1211 01:49:37,430 --> 01:49:42,770 I don't know the decibels, it is a piece of heavy equipment, so there is no more hand though 1212 01:49:42,770 --> 01:49:43,090 you said. 1213 01:49:43,510 --> 01:49:44,510 This is not going to be happening. 1214 01:49:45,050 --> 01:49:49,490 Then there is a little bit of a time delay between when the trenches cut and the back 1215 01:49:49,490 --> 01:49:54,730 and everything is done and then we come through and restore or resurface over the top of the trench. 1216 01:49:54,910 --> 01:50:02,630 That's usually about a week or two after the trenching is done so that we can have enough work for the asphalt contractor to come in and do their repaving. 1217 01:50:03,370 --> 01:50:09,570 And then the slurry seal would happen a couple weeks, couple months afterwards, is that what the plan is? 1218 01:50:10,250 --> 01:50:17,510 That's what we're hoping and that's what we're attempting to coordinate with Joe and his team as to our work being done ahead of their project. 1219 01:50:17,510 --> 01:50:20,450 Yes, the answer to the question counts when we're prepared. 1220 01:50:21,050 --> 01:50:25,430 The project is going well ahead of the construction that's going to be happening in this area. 1221 01:50:26,210 --> 01:50:28,770 And they are also aware we do have a street moratorium. 1222 01:50:30,090 --> 01:50:37,630 So after we slurry seal the street, there's minimum two years before any utilities can come in and trench or cut the street up. 1223 01:50:38,370 --> 01:50:39,950 And for our materials, it's five years. 1224 01:50:40,690 --> 01:50:45,870 So once we're done, Patrick has missed his opportunity and he's got to come back. 1225 01:50:45,870 --> 01:50:47,910 Okay, thank you. 1226 01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:51,530 Hi Pat, thanks for your presentation. 1227 01:50:52,770 --> 01:50:59,590 Could you just clarify for me what city side fiber is, you know, looking at your first slide, 1228 01:51:00,450 --> 01:51:06,970 the first part of the bullet points indicate like it's locally owned operated and focused, 1229 01:51:07,790 --> 01:51:10,410 own privately funded, it sounds like a private company, 1230 01:51:10,410 --> 01:51:15,170 but then you mentioned that it's CPCN license public utility. 1231 01:51:15,170 --> 01:51:21,990 Are you a governmental entity or are you a private company where a private company where a one on our private company? 1232 01:51:22,230 --> 01:51:26,050 It's a private equity firm that provides all of the funding for the company. 1233 01:51:26,070 --> 01:51:35,150 So they are technically the owners of the company the CPCN is is just the license that we obtained from the California Public Utility Commission. 1234 01:51:36,070 --> 01:51:37,770 Okay. Thank you for that clarification. 1235 01:51:39,430 --> 01:51:44,990 You've indicated that you're intending to start rolling out the construction and your first phase. 1236 01:51:44,990 --> 01:51:48,350 in just a matter of weeks, January of next year. 1237 01:51:50,890 --> 01:51:56,150 And I'm curious to hear both from our staff and from you. 1238 01:51:56,330 --> 01:52:01,770 What interactions has your company already had in terms with our city, 1239 01:52:02,450 --> 01:52:06,510 staff, the details that would relate to everything that you just described 1240 01:52:06,510 --> 01:52:08,630 and commencing all these activities? 1241 01:52:08,750 --> 01:52:12,770 Yeah, so we've had initial meeting with Joe and his team, 1242 01:52:12,770 --> 01:52:15,370 And we're just ready to begin submitting plans. 1243 01:52:15,530 --> 01:52:20,210 We'll actually prepare full improvement plans that show all the existing utilities, 1244 01:52:20,570 --> 01:52:24,750 the roadways, the location of our trench, all the details on those plans. 1245 01:52:24,910 --> 01:52:31,130 We go through the plan check process with the city and then once they're satisfied with the plans 1246 01:52:31,130 --> 01:52:35,990 and ready to issue us a permit, the issue of the permits, the city will provide inspection 1247 01:52:35,990 --> 01:52:37,690 as the work is taking place. 1248 01:52:38,050 --> 01:52:41,870 So we're kind of in that process now and we're hoping to get through that process 1249 01:52:41,870 --> 01:52:46,190 by the first of the year and be able to actually start the construction right after the first 1250 01:52:46,190 --> 01:52:46,550 year. 1251 01:52:46,910 --> 01:52:48,390 You're anticipating my next question. 1252 01:52:48,590 --> 01:52:53,490 It was going to be whether it's required that you obtain permits to do this type 1253 01:52:53,490 --> 01:52:56,110 of work through the city and it sounds like it is. 1254 01:52:56,130 --> 01:52:57,210 That's correct, Mayor Bill. 1255 01:52:57,430 --> 01:53:00,410 They need to acquire what's called an accrosion permit. 1256 01:53:00,630 --> 01:53:03,090 Any work in the public right away needs an accrosion permit. 1257 01:53:03,530 --> 01:53:06,450 Patrick has told me he's close to submitting the detailed plans. 1258 01:53:06,530 --> 01:53:11,030 Once we receive those, we will review the plans and make sure that they abide by all 1259 01:53:12,750 --> 01:53:24,050 do any of those permits, or any of what we've just discussed, is it anticipated that it would require any city council action or approval? 1260 01:53:25,090 --> 01:53:27,430 No, that permits ministerial. 1261 01:53:34,230 --> 01:53:39,590 It's a big undertaking. As you mentioned, you know, you had your competitor, the cable industry. 1262 01:53:39,590 --> 01:53:50,010 And we have with the cable company a franchise agreement that spells out the terms and 1263 01:53:50,010 --> 01:53:52,950 conditions by which they get the right to operate that. 1264 01:53:53,090 --> 01:53:57,190 Is it anticipated that we would have a similar franchise agreement with this company? 1265 01:53:57,970 --> 01:54:06,150 No, because of that CPCN license with the PUC, that essentially is our franchise to work 1266 01:54:06,150 --> 01:54:07,250 throughout the state. 1267 01:54:07,250 --> 01:54:14,490 And actually all the cable companies franchisees all were rolled up under the state several years ago as well. 1268 01:54:16,630 --> 01:54:23,430 Question for our city's staff, do we currently receive any sort of franchise fee from our cable company today? 1269 01:54:23,930 --> 01:54:34,430 We do, and it's under as representative indicated it's under a state franchise that was passed, I believe, like in 2006 or 1996. 1270 01:54:34,430 --> 01:54:45,190 And I took a while until those franchises sort of fell off of cities, but yes, the cities get a residual franchise fee or a franchise revenue. 1271 01:54:46,130 --> 01:54:50,230 But it's still a state held franchise license at this point. 1272 01:54:50,230 --> 01:54:56,530 And I can also tell you that the franchise fee, you know, as it used to be, and currently is, 1273 01:54:56,530 --> 01:55:05,310 and this goes back to the days of cable TV, the franchise fees based on the cable companies video or TV service. 1274 01:55:05,450 --> 01:55:07,970 They don't pay a fee based on our internet service. 1275 01:55:08,330 --> 01:55:10,130 We're just providing internet service. 1276 01:55:10,370 --> 01:55:13,230 So that's why we don't fall under that category. 1277 01:55:13,850 --> 01:55:18,690 Is it anticipated that any fee whatsoever would be payable to the city 1278 01:55:18,690 --> 01:55:21,410 for the benefit of you operating within our city? 1279 01:55:22,890 --> 01:55:27,790 No, other than the fees that we pay for our permits and for our inspection for our construction. 1280 01:55:30,290 --> 01:55:38,310 Okay. Going back to the cost of installation, after your main laying of all your lines, 1281 01:55:38,730 --> 01:55:45,090 homeowner by homeowner, and you would have to do additional trenching and installation on each home 1282 01:55:45,090 --> 01:55:47,210 that needs it. 1283 01:55:49,050 --> 01:55:52,430 Can you address just the relative costs, the... 1284 01:55:52,430 --> 01:55:55,150 So, homeowners pay for the country... 1285 01:55:55,150 --> 01:55:56,450 No, that's all part of the service. 1286 01:55:56,470 --> 01:55:58,170 There's no installation cost. 1287 01:55:58,250 --> 01:56:03,030 Any cost associated with getting the service to the home is all part of our cost. 1288 01:56:03,370 --> 01:56:06,510 So, there's no cost to the resident for that part of the service. 1289 01:56:06,930 --> 01:56:07,870 They sign up. 1290 01:56:07,950 --> 01:56:11,610 Their obligation is the monthly charge, and that's all they pay. 1291 01:56:11,610 --> 01:56:12,110 Okay, 1292 01:56:14,230 --> 01:56:22,430 Council member Holloway had raised the relative cost cable versus the fiber, and I was just a little unclear of the answer. 1293 01:56:23,590 --> 01:56:31,650 I think you said it's competitive, so it's not as if you're coming in and you're going to undercut cable, it sounds like it's going to be a same ballpark cost. 1294 01:56:32,370 --> 01:56:38,070 So our baseline costs for that one gigabits speed service is $80 a month. 1295 01:56:38,250 --> 01:56:42,030 I don't have all of the cable companies internet service pricing, 1296 01:56:42,050 --> 01:56:45,930 but I believe it's all somewhere in that range I'll call it. 1297 01:56:46,490 --> 01:56:49,310 However, our service is going to be faster. 1298 01:56:50,410 --> 01:56:53,470 They're not going to provide that speed of service. 1299 01:56:54,050 --> 01:56:57,970 Sometimes they have data limits, data caps, things like that. 1300 01:56:57,970 --> 01:57:05,290 So we think our service is better, and we think it's competitive with the cost of the cable 1301 01:57:05,290 --> 01:57:05,690 providers. 1302 01:57:07,410 --> 01:57:13,490 Going back to your timing schedule for your project, I think I heard you say six months 1303 01:57:13,490 --> 01:57:15,510 per zone is about what is average. 1304 01:57:15,830 --> 01:57:17,130 How many zones are there altogether? 1305 01:57:17,790 --> 01:57:21,890 So in rental center market, we've got three zones, three. 1306 01:57:21,890 --> 01:57:30,150 Are you anticipating that you would do zone one, take six months, then immediately begin zone two? 1307 01:57:30,890 --> 01:57:39,150 Yes. So for purposes of our slurry seal program, I believe our cities cut into seven different districts, 1308 01:57:39,950 --> 01:57:49,850 right, and it takes seven years to reslurry the entire city. So we're going to be not going to be able to coordinate with our slurry seal program unless you're waiting. 1309 01:57:49,850 --> 01:57:59,850 Right, right. Yeah, our plan at this point is we're going to be ahead of that. So, but we do restore the street after we're done with our trench. 1310 01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:19,300 When you, thank you. When you complete your main installation, I'm assuming that your intention is that you're going to repair the street to the same level and condition that it was same type of slitter ECL. So it will be good as new. 1311 01:58:19,300 --> 01:58:23,840 Yeah, well, it's actually an asphalt. We actually do, you know, the, over the top of that two inch 1312 01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:31,160 trance, we actually grind the street, the asphalt down two inches in depth, and then repave 1313 01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:38,800 with actual asphalt for that 18 inch wide stretch. How does that work if we have like rubberized 1314 01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:48,540 slurry seal on our streets? How, won't, won't there be different materials then? Well, we use a hot 1315 01:58:49,900 --> 01:58:56,740 I believe it's similar to the, the paving material that the city would use, it's not a slurry seal. 1316 01:58:56,760 --> 01:59:00,980 We're doing, we're actually doing an asphalt paving over the top of the trench. 1317 01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:03,440 So Mayor Cummings from staff. 1318 01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:08,060 Yes, so Mayor Bill, that little 18 inch width will be new asphalt essentially. 1319 01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:15,760 And how about a aesthetic standpoint, I would expect it's probably better than new, 1320 01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:18,380 because you're putting new asphalt in as far as durability. 1321 01:59:19,780 --> 01:59:23,000 But what are the residents going to see in the middle of their street? 1322 01:59:23,220 --> 01:59:25,660 Is it going to weather the same, look the same? 1323 01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:34,540 It'll, I would say that what we're trying to do is coordinate our projects so that ahead of our 1324 01:59:34,540 --> 01:59:36,080 slurry seal and overlay projects. 1325 01:59:37,480 --> 01:59:42,940 So eventually, you know, it could be two, three years after city side fiber comes in, 1326 01:59:42,940 --> 01:59:45,740 we will either have a slurry seal or an overlay 1327 01:59:45,740 --> 01:59:48,200 over those micro trenches. 1328 01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:50,240 Okay, so no concern from staff. 1329 01:59:50,340 --> 01:59:51,180 No concern. 1330 01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:52,220 Okay. 1331 01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:54,540 I think that there were pair will definitely last 1332 01:59:54,540 --> 01:59:57,480 until we do a new overlay or slurry seal. 1333 01:59:59,200 --> 01:59:59,980 It sounds like you move pretty- 1334 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:00,720 Be quickly. 1335 02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:09,560 Are there any public safety concerns when you've got the street dug up? Do you interact 1336 02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:17,240 it all with the fire department, the police department, so they could have access in case of an emergency? 1337 02:00:17,620 --> 02:00:24,540 They should have access at all times. And we're certainly willing to communicate and coordinate 1338 02:00:24,540 --> 02:00:31,260 with those folks as to the locations and the time, there will never be in a time where the road 1339 02:00:31,260 --> 02:00:35,060 is completely closed. We're over off to the one side of the road, typically. 1340 02:00:37,340 --> 02:00:38,860 And it moves pretty fast. 1341 02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:42,420 Like you're saying, you know, we actually move through the neighborhoods pretty quickly. 1342 02:00:44,280 --> 02:00:49,840 I appreciate that. I appreciate all of your comments. I mean, faster is better. And I think 1343 02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:56,380 All the residents would greatly appreciate to have that option, so I appreciate you being here and answering all of our questions. 1344 02:00:56,620 --> 02:00:58,520 I think Councilmember Holley, may I have a follow-up? 1345 02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:07,020 Thank you. This is real quick for the City Attorney. We're just, we have no say, obviously. 1346 02:01:07,780 --> 02:01:10,220 That's a simple, that's a simple statement. Yeah, I agree. 1347 02:01:10,220 --> 02:01:14,360 Great to the point, Mr. Holley. That's exactly correct. This has been preempted by state law. 1348 02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:23,080 The Public Utilities Commission is essentially there are authorities over arching and preamps anything at the state at the local level. 1349 02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:29,400 This company like Verizon, AT&T, Cox, Spectrum. 1350 02:01:29,700 --> 02:01:35,080 They have a legal right under state law to work on our right of way without our permission essentially. 1351 02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:40,600 From a regulation standpoint, this is a private entity for profit, right? 1352 02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:48,620 theoretically, or they could 20 companies come in and do the exact same thing. 1353 02:01:48,620 --> 02:01:49,720 I think theoretically limited. 1354 02:01:49,720 --> 02:01:55,560 It is controlled by the PUC, so there is a very complicated political process related 1355 02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:59,600 to the Public Utilities Commission, and it's regulated and controlled, so I don't know 1356 02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:05,780 how the numbers are actually set forth statewide, but there are any number of telecommunication 1357 02:02:05,780 --> 02:02:08,700 companies that have PUC authorization to work in right of ways. 1358 02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:11,180 Well, I can tell you too. 1359 02:02:11,340 --> 02:02:14,860 I was going to add, there's also an economics standpoint to it. 1360 02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:22,400 You wouldn't have a significant number of companies coming in because the market share would have already been taken by the number of homes. 1361 02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:28,980 So to have, you know, more than just a couple companies may be a handful at the best. 1362 02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:33,700 It's you're not going to get 20 companies or even a significant number coming in. 1363 02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:53,600 And one other thing, and I'm not here to advocate one way or another for the company, I will say they recently did the area I live in in another part of the county other than seeing their checks out there, I didn't even know that they were doing work or digging in the street. 1364 02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:59,220 It was very quick and there was no residual effects afterwards. 1365 02:02:59,800 --> 02:03:03,460 So in terms of looking at how they would treat Rancho Santa Marguerita, 1366 02:03:03,980 --> 02:03:05,440 they've met with the city. 1367 02:03:05,700 --> 02:03:09,260 They are committed to working in advance of our slurry seal projects. 1368 02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:13,100 There may be a little bit of a lag with that. 1369 02:03:13,120 --> 02:03:19,120 You might have maybe 18 months to years as Mr. Parko said before that next slurry comes through. 1370 02:03:19,120 --> 02:03:25,600 but I think it does show a willingness to work with the city to have as a minimal disruption as possible. 1371 02:03:26,540 --> 02:03:29,080 Thank you. Along with your street dug up. 1372 02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:33,540 You know, I don't even know that I ever noticed it actually being dug up. 1373 02:03:33,900 --> 02:03:40,040 Okay. The benefit to the residents for the city of Rancho Santa Margaret is increased market choice 1374 02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:45,140 and increased market competition. If Rancho residents are unhappy with the current internet provider, 1375 02:03:45,140 --> 02:03:52,580 this is a new market participant and it will drive competition and it will, you know, obviously through market forces 1376 02:03:52,580 --> 02:03:56,560 presumably improve internet capability and speed up. 1377 02:03:56,680 --> 02:03:58,520 Where I live, I'm frustrated with my internet provider. 1378 02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:02,760 I can't wait to see if perhaps in my city, I get a choice. 1379 02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:06,800 So, a choice is coming to the residents of the city of Ranch of Santa Maria. 1380 02:04:09,020 --> 02:04:10,500 A couple other questions here. 1381 02:04:11,100 --> 02:04:18,460 And I understand, it's coming, and I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I mean, my internet is pretty fast. 1382 02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:23,220 One of your bullet points said that you're blinding fast speed. 1383 02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:26,580 I guess there's a way to quantify that, but I'm not going to even go there. 1384 02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:28,240 That's a great sales point. 1385 02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:31,880 I guess the sum that wouldn't ask any other quiet, blinding speed. 1386 02:04:34,860 --> 02:04:36,360 The mayor brought a great point. 1387 02:04:36,740 --> 02:04:43,420 This is coming, but what we have to be ready for is the questions, and this is the first 1388 02:04:43,420 --> 02:04:46,700 I've heard of this, okay, I was fine, but there's going to be a lot of questions, 1389 02:04:46,820 --> 02:04:50,440 hey, why are they trenching, what's going on, and man this has been going on for seven 1390 02:04:50,780 --> 02:04:56,600 years, and we have to have those answers, but in reality, you said you were going to work 1391 02:04:56,600 --> 02:04:59,040 with the city, but in reality, you don't have to do that. 1392 02:04:59,340 --> 02:04:59,840 Well, yes, we do. 1393 02:04:59,900 --> 02:05:01,200 No, no, it's the yes or no. 1394 02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:02,880 You don't really have to work with us. 1395 02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:06,860 Well, we do, we do, we, we, we, we, we have the right to be in the right way. 1396 02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:10,180 However, the city can control, I'll call it time-place and matter. 1397 02:05:10,720 --> 02:05:11,060 Say that again. 1398 02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:12,840 And that time-place and matter. 1399 02:05:13,220 --> 02:05:15,760 And that is the, of the actual construction. 1400 02:05:16,060 --> 02:05:20,200 Because we are obligated to go to the city to obtain permits to be able to do the construction. 1401 02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:23,220 So in your perfect world, you start on day one. 1402 02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:24,880 Let's just say it's January 1st of any year. 1403 02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:25,120 Okay. 1404 02:05:25,820 --> 02:05:30,960 You're finished with your work in Rancho as far as trenching and stalling when. 1405 02:05:32,440 --> 02:05:39,980 If I would have to guess that the complete build out of the city, I would say somewhere between 18 and 24 months. 1406 02:05:40,820 --> 02:05:45,320 And yet we have a seven year IP plan on why am I missing this? 1407 02:05:45,860 --> 02:05:51,440 How could this possibly, you're saying that you're going to try to work with the city in that regard. 1408 02:05:52,460 --> 02:05:55,480 But your numbers don't, that doesn't drive. It doesn't make sense. 1409 02:05:55,480 --> 02:06:01,460 So if you're done, and frankly, if I'm wrong, you're going to be trenching every street in the city. 1410 02:06:02,180 --> 02:06:09,060 No, now we will trench many of the residential streets where the actual lines to the homes would go. 1411 02:06:09,220 --> 02:06:14,180 But we're not going to trench, I'll call it the majority of your arterial or major rows. 1412 02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:17,920 Only where we need backbone lines to connect the neighborhoods. 1413 02:06:18,420 --> 02:06:21,600 By how many trenches are we talking about? 1414 02:06:21,620 --> 02:06:22,540 Streets that will be trench. 1415 02:06:22,540 --> 02:06:28,080 Yeah, I can tell you, in our zone one, we're going to do 101,000 1416 02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:29,220 linear feet. 1417 02:06:29,440 --> 02:06:30,100 Say that again. 1418 02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:33,460 101,000 linear feet, which is 19 miles. 1419 02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:35,980 How many streets is it with my question? 1420 02:06:37,020 --> 02:06:38,600 I don't have the names of all the streets. 1421 02:06:38,740 --> 02:06:42,580 Not only names of just how many streets, out of all the streets that we are. 1422 02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:44,960 So, you're not going to put fiber in every street? 1423 02:06:45,160 --> 02:06:48,940 Well, we are going to put fiber in, I'll call it every residential street. 1424 02:06:49,340 --> 02:06:50,060 Yeah, that was my question. 1425 02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:51,420 So, you're going to be on every street? 1426 02:06:51,420 --> 02:06:57,000 Primarily yes, and you will you have fiber that goes to this to the side walk if you will of every house 1427 02:06:57,660 --> 02:07:02,060 It'll go to the back of the sidewalk the ladders will will will serve two homes 1428 02:07:02,060 --> 02:07:08,720 So it'll be every other home. There'll be a line. They'll go under the curb under the sidewalk to the back side of the 1429 02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:13,400 Sidewalk and then that can split off the serve two homes and those are don't have sidewalks. What happens? 1430 02:07:13,620 --> 02:07:19,420 We'll go to probably add to the back to the property line and we'll put a way to slow down 1431 02:07:19,420 --> 02:07:21,240 You're gonna take you're gonna take your fiber 1432 02:07:21,420 --> 02:07:24,500 to the property line or through the property line. 1433 02:07:24,860 --> 02:07:26,140 Just to the property line. 1434 02:07:26,460 --> 02:07:32,580 So, from to it, right, right, and then we'll leave it there until the homeowner 1435 02:07:32,580 --> 02:07:37,880 requests the service and at that point, we'll run it from on their property from 1436 02:07:37,880 --> 02:07:40,680 the right of way line up to the home. 1437 02:07:40,920 --> 02:07:42,540 And where does it connect into the home? 1438 02:07:43,220 --> 02:07:46,420 So, we'll work with the resident as to where they would like to have it connected. 1439 02:07:46,860 --> 02:07:49,080 We'll put a box on the outside of their home. 1440 02:07:49,080 --> 02:07:53,480 We'll go in, drill into the home, have a connection point there. 1441 02:07:53,780 --> 02:07:55,660 We provide the equipment, the router. 1442 02:07:56,080 --> 02:07:59,760 You've probably got a router now from your service provider. 1443 02:08:00,380 --> 02:08:05,900 So we'll go in and put a router in there or put a line and a connection point inside their 1444 02:08:05,900 --> 02:08:06,340 home. 1445 02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:08,820 Give them a router and then set them up on the network. 1446 02:08:10,380 --> 02:08:11,920 Okay, last words to disacquisify. 1447 02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:17,040 You hope to be done of all these streets 18 to 24 months. 1448 02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:23,300 yet we have no way to pay our streets in that time frame 1449 02:08:23,300 --> 02:08:23,880 correction. 1450 02:08:24,900 --> 02:08:29,220 We don't have, we don't have the means or the do that. 1451 02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:33,300 We can't, we can't keep up with that 24 month page, correct? 1452 02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:38,860 So, the schedule that Mr. Thomas has proposed is ahead of all of our 1453 02:08:38,860 --> 02:08:41,080 slurry seal projects and the residential streets. 1454 02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:43,940 So, we rotate those neighborhoods. 1455 02:08:43,940 --> 02:08:51,260 So, he will be at least two to three years ahead of some of the slurries seal projects. 1456 02:08:51,900 --> 02:08:57,320 So, we will, like Mr. Vontta said, we will probably, we may have some lag of, you know, 1457 02:08:57,560 --> 02:09:01,440 three, two to three years before we get a slurry after they come in with their micro trench. 1458 02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:03,420 The longest would be three years. 1459 02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:04,480 Yes. 1460 02:09:07,140 --> 02:09:10,100 I'm going back to your communication with the residents. 1461 02:09:10,720 --> 02:09:14,980 I'm sorry to get them, but do our hangers, male. 1462 02:09:16,820 --> 02:09:18,440 So we do males and do our hangers. 1463 02:09:18,740 --> 02:09:20,380 We'll do a couple of different associations. 1464 02:09:21,800 --> 02:09:22,980 We're all over social media. 1465 02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:24,680 What's the social media do you use? 1466 02:09:25,020 --> 02:09:26,160 Well, we're on that. 1467 02:09:26,160 --> 02:09:31,460 In fact, I'm going to turn to our senior VP of Mark and he will never answer the fine. 1468 02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:32,080 No, no, no, no. 1469 02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:34,360 I see a lot of feelings. 1470 02:09:34,620 --> 02:09:34,640 I see a lot of feelings. 1471 02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:36,320 One or two word answer please. 1472 02:09:36,540 --> 02:09:37,840 I see a lot of feeds on LinkedIn. 1473 02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:44,700 Whatever social media is prominent in today's culture, we use Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram. 1474 02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:46,380 We also have our website. 1475 02:09:47,260 --> 02:09:48,120 People can go to. 1476 02:09:48,500 --> 02:09:50,680 For a highly accessible art intention. 1477 02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:52,940 I appreciate your concern. 1478 02:09:53,120 --> 02:09:57,800 Our intention is to communicate with the citizens to not disenfranchise them during our process. 1479 02:09:58,160 --> 02:10:02,780 Our intention is to partner with them so they can see that there's an alternative to what they have today. 1480 02:10:02,780 --> 02:10:08,420 It's to our benefit to over communicate and make sure that they understand when and how we're coming 1481 02:10:08,420 --> 02:10:13,300 So our communication cadence starts about 90 days. Well, 60 days before construction 1482 02:10:13,300 --> 02:10:22,280 As soon as permits are issued, then we start our communication cadence and it's a several touch point from direct mail door hangers and community outreach and engagement 1483 02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:25,600 Also work with any of the private communities 1484 02:10:25,600 --> 02:10:32,020 We also work with the HOA communities and letting them know and they have the option to also sign it up and then allow 1485 02:10:32,020 --> 02:10:35,440 and us to provide services into their communities as well. 1486 02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:36,460 Yeah, that's what. 1487 02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:44,960 We work with all of them on the timing of that to the best they're working. 1488 02:10:46,180 --> 02:10:46,620 Yes. 1489 02:10:47,020 --> 02:10:48,420 We've already been talking with you. 1490 02:10:48,500 --> 02:10:48,540 Hold on. 1491 02:10:48,740 --> 02:10:49,040 Let me finish. 1492 02:10:49,360 --> 02:10:52,120 You'll be telling people it could be three years before we repair history. 1493 02:10:52,320 --> 02:10:54,680 Well, the streets are prepared after we're done with the community. 1494 02:10:54,680 --> 02:10:55,120 No, no, no. 1495 02:10:55,120 --> 02:10:55,860 They don't look the same. 1496 02:10:55,860 --> 02:10:56,840 We already talked about that. 1497 02:10:56,940 --> 02:10:58,320 It's not going to look the same at all. 1498 02:10:59,040 --> 02:11:00,200 Let me finish. 1499 02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:05,040 He's already said it's not going to look the same until we go and do 1500 02:11:05,040 --> 02:11:11,180 what we do so that's on the public streets and we'd be happy to coordinate our communication 1501 02:11:11,180 --> 02:11:14,920 with the residents to let them know how long it'll be before they'll there's a whole 1502 02:11:14,920 --> 02:11:19,160 use of that same way. We'll use the sending them that they just got the work done on their 1503 02:11:19,160 --> 02:11:23,700 street. It could be three years before it gets repaired. We can certainly make that part of 1504 02:11:23,700 --> 02:11:29,720 our communication. Is that something you can give us in writing? Sure. Okay. And I just wanted 1505 02:11:29,720 --> 02:11:35,460 clarify too. So what we've been primarily talking about are the public streets, the public 1506 02:11:35,460 --> 02:11:40,620 right of way. We also provide the service into the private communities and those communities 1507 02:11:40,620 --> 02:11:46,000 because they own the streets. We worked directly with the HOA to hopefully obtain their approval 1508 02:11:46,000 --> 02:11:50,820 to be able to work in their streets and we again attempt to coordinate that with their plans 1509 02:11:50,820 --> 02:11:57,580 for doing their resurfacing on their streets. We're willing to host a town hall. We're willing to, 1510 02:11:57,580 --> 02:11:59,100 We do a groundbreaking ceremony. 1511 02:11:59,360 --> 02:12:02,840 We have loved to partner with the city and the chamber, whoever else would like to participate. 1512 02:12:03,500 --> 02:12:05,240 We make ourselves highly accessible. 1513 02:12:05,680 --> 02:12:09,140 We do a groundbreaking ceremony in the city of Urbana, where we launched out there. 1514 02:12:09,420 --> 02:12:11,980 We're doing one of the 20th in the city of Laguna Hills. 1515 02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:16,360 So we're partnering with their chamber and their city and their government officials. 1516 02:12:16,780 --> 02:12:19,700 We want to be highly accessible and highly approachable. 1517 02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:23,720 Our intention is to be part of the community, not just a service provider trying to grab a bunch 1518 02:12:23,720 --> 02:12:30,420 money and in services, we're actually viewing this as we're providing value to the citizens 1519 02:12:30,420 --> 02:12:31,860 of Orange County. 1520 02:12:35,860 --> 02:12:37,460 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1521 02:12:37,460 --> 02:12:39,400 Mayor, I know we're not voting on this. 1522 02:12:39,560 --> 02:12:44,160 This is a receive and file, but I just wanted to, after hearing all the questions and the answers 1523 02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:51,720 in the comments, if there's one perpetual concern that I've heard over the years is a dissatisfaction 1524 02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:55,400 with the choice of cable providers here in Rancho Santa Margarita. 1525 02:12:55,400 --> 02:13:01,420 People are not happy with their cable providers that they have they want a choice. I think this is great and 1526 02:13:02,900 --> 02:13:09,880 I'm looking forward to I wish we could do it as quickly as possible notwithstanding the seven years CIP 1527 02:13:11,580 --> 02:13:16,660 I we see emails all the time or messages from people saying when are we gonna get this and 1528 02:13:16,660 --> 02:13:21,300 I also have heard from folks in Mission VA who that they just can't believe how great this is 1529 02:13:21,300 --> 02:13:23,420 how quickly they can download and upload, 1530 02:13:23,780 --> 02:13:25,900 compared to what we have right now. 1531 02:13:27,040 --> 02:13:28,440 It's just been very, 1532 02:13:30,600 --> 02:13:33,640 obvious to me for years. 1533 02:13:34,080 --> 02:13:35,880 How dissatisfied people are with, 1534 02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:37,060 and I'm not gonna mention the names 1535 02:13:37,060 --> 02:13:40,020 with the offerings that we have for cable providers. 1536 02:13:40,580 --> 02:13:43,160 So anytime that the citizenry 1537 02:13:43,160 --> 02:13:45,780 you can have more options available to them, 1538 02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:48,780 more choice, all in favor of it. 1539 02:13:49,040 --> 02:13:50,400 So thank you for your presentation. 1540 02:13:50,400 --> 02:13:53,700 I look forward to seeing you get to work as quickly as we can. 1541 02:13:54,640 --> 02:13:58,500 And we're available any time, any other questions come up. 1542 02:13:58,740 --> 02:14:03,140 Let us know, like, start a mention, we'd be able to come out and do a town hall or 1543 02:14:03,140 --> 02:14:05,740 whatever we can to answer any questions that may come up. 1544 02:14:05,840 --> 02:14:06,740 Anything else to mind, right? 1545 02:14:09,460 --> 02:14:13,260 One other question relative to like, homeowner installation. 1546 02:14:15,080 --> 02:14:19,480 When people bought their homes, they're, I think there were already easements recorded, you know, 1547 02:14:19,480 --> 02:14:21,680 for the benefit of like the cable providers. 1548 02:14:22,180 --> 02:14:25,700 Do you have to record new easements on each homeowner 1549 02:14:25,700 --> 02:14:28,040 that hires or engages your company? 1550 02:14:28,600 --> 02:14:29,780 Or do you have those easements? 1551 02:14:29,800 --> 02:14:30,420 How does that work? 1552 02:14:30,500 --> 02:14:33,380 No, we typically do that just at the permission 1553 02:14:33,380 --> 02:14:34,460 of the property owner. 1554 02:14:34,780 --> 02:14:36,640 Those laterals, those connections into the homes. 1555 02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:38,700 I don't believe the cable lines are actually 1556 02:14:38,700 --> 02:14:42,540 in easements from the public right of way back to the home. 1557 02:14:44,520 --> 02:14:48,400 OK, and are you able to just tap into and use 1558 02:14:48,400 --> 02:14:51,840 like the same conduit that might be there from the cable provider 1559 02:14:51,840 --> 02:14:55,280 of you laying just your own new typically just lay our own. 1560 02:14:55,340 --> 02:14:59,680 If there is conduit that is available, we can potentially use that. 1561 02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:08,980 That usually is owned by the homeowner, because it is typically not in an easement, and so we can utilize 1562 02:15:08,980 --> 02:15:11,000 that if the homeowner would like us to. 1563 02:15:12,120 --> 02:15:17,480 It's been a long time since we bought our house. I seem to recall that there was a recorded easement, but 1564 02:15:17,480 --> 02:15:19,140 it likely not for your cable provider. 1565 02:15:21,180 --> 02:15:27,400 I know there was for unexploded military ordinance and all kinds of things. It's been a while since I looked at it. 1566 02:15:27,400 --> 02:15:35,460 Well, it's an exciting opportunity I think for our residents and I'm happy to have city side 1567 02:15:35,460 --> 02:15:41,960 fiber coming in to our community. I appreciate the comments that you made that you're looking 1568 02:15:41,960 --> 02:15:47,760 to come in here and be an important stakeholder for years to come. 1569 02:15:48,080 --> 02:15:52,540 I remember the chamber and we have the sponsored several chamber events prior to us even 1570 02:15:52,540 --> 02:15:58,740 lighting a single fiber or a single home, we started that process early because we wanted to be a part of the community. 1571 02:15:59,480 --> 02:16:07,580 And we are genuinely we have dedicated resources that attend a chamber of meetings and we'll continue to do that with any other entities and associations within the community. 1572 02:16:07,620 --> 02:16:10,780 I appreciate that and I was going to invite you to do just that sort of thing. 1573 02:16:11,080 --> 02:16:15,500 We just recently had last month the big rancho family festival apology. 1574 02:16:15,760 --> 02:16:16,440 Were you already there? 1575 02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:21,220 That's a good opportunity for you to share with the community what's going on. 1576 02:16:21,220 --> 02:16:34,780 That's for the benefit of our residents as well as for your company, so we look forward to having you in the city for years and if there's something that we can do we're all ears to try and make this as seamless 1577 02:16:35,520 --> 02:16:46,220 A process for you and for our residents, so I hope we could work together closely for years to come in and you enjoy great success and our residents enjoy better options. Thank you 1578 02:16:47,600 --> 02:16:48,440 Thank you. 1579 02:16:48,860 --> 02:16:49,280 Thank you. 1580 02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:49,780 Thank you very much. 1581 02:16:50,000 --> 02:16:50,020 Thank you. 1582 02:16:50,420 --> 02:16:52,980 This is a receive and file call. 1583 02:16:53,220 --> 02:16:55,560 I don't believe we have to take any action tonight on that. 1584 02:16:55,960 --> 02:16:57,940 So that concludes item 7.1. 1585 02:16:58,080 --> 02:17:00,140 8.1 we dealt with earlier. 1586 02:17:01,080 --> 02:17:04,440 So we now are down to item nine public comments. 1587 02:17:04,880 --> 02:17:10,320 This is the last opportunity tonight to address the city council on any matter not on our agenda. 1588 02:17:10,780 --> 02:17:12,840 I have one request to speak. 1589 02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:16,500 and Brian Boyle has asked to speak to us again. 1590 02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:19,480 So, Brian, if you want to come forward once again? 1591 02:17:26,990 --> 02:17:31,510 So, I think we do like capitalism here. 1592 02:17:31,650 --> 02:17:32,670 Like that's the vibe I get. 1593 02:17:33,550 --> 02:17:37,690 So, having competitors seems like a good thing. 1594 02:17:38,750 --> 02:17:40,550 So, it's all remember listening to your next time. 1595 02:17:40,610 --> 02:17:43,470 So, I wanted to address the decorum of these meetings, 1596 02:17:43,750 --> 02:17:44,830 based on my last comment. 1597 02:17:45,490 --> 02:17:46,830 I'm bummed I have to bring this up again. 1598 02:17:46,830 --> 02:17:50,030 but Mayor Bill does often interrupt public comments 1599 02:17:50,030 --> 02:17:52,910 or give us a lecture following them based on his opinions. 1600 02:17:53,070 --> 02:17:54,790 He did that today to me again. 1601 02:17:55,330 --> 02:17:56,910 So according to Council's own rules, 1602 02:17:57,310 --> 02:17:59,570 the Mayor and Councillor not allowed to do this. 1603 02:17:59,750 --> 02:18:03,030 I'm just gonna read this again from the rules that were approved. 1604 02:18:03,530 --> 02:18:06,010 At the January 24th, 2024 meeting. 1605 02:18:07,630 --> 02:18:09,730 So if a member of the public addresses the City Council 1606 02:18:09,730 --> 02:18:11,610 on a matter that is not on the agenda, 1607 02:18:12,690 --> 02:18:14,170 City Council members shall neither engage 1608 02:18:14,170 --> 02:18:15,970 and extend a discussions nor deliberate 1609 02:18:15,970 --> 02:18:20,470 on the map that's like arguing. On the matter, if a council member so wishes, the council member 1610 02:18:20,470 --> 02:18:25,090 made during the council member comments, that's a different time. Portion of the meetings 1611 02:18:25,090 --> 02:18:30,590 requested the matter be placed on the next agenda. We don't usually see that happening here, though. 1612 02:18:31,510 --> 02:18:36,370 So highlight here, no action or discussion shall be undertaken on any item not appearing on the 1613 02:18:36,370 --> 02:18:41,470 posted agenda except the city council member staff may briefly respond to statements made or 1614 02:18:41,470 --> 02:18:46,650 questions posed by the person making those comments, but otherwise that's something they're 1615 02:18:46,650 --> 02:18:51,490 supposed to do in their own comments. So I just seems like we forget this a lot, so I just 1616 02:18:51,490 --> 02:18:59,670 wanted to remind folks, also yay, fiber. Thanks. Thanks for your comments, Brian. My comments 1617 02:18:59,670 --> 02:19:06,190 and reply to you are in full conformance with our policy. And if I hear a question from you or any 1618 02:19:06,190 --> 02:19:14,610 member of the public during public comments, we try and provide a quick answer as our policy permits, 1619 02:19:14,710 --> 02:19:21,310 or if I hear something that is obviously incorrect or misleading, I try and help guide the speaker 1620 02:19:22,190 --> 02:19:28,010 or for the benefit of those listening so that they aren't misled. So thank you very much. 1621 02:19:30,730 --> 02:19:34,810 Item 10 is our City Manager's report. Do we have anything Miss City Manager? 1622 02:19:34,810 --> 02:19:37,190 I have nothing this evening. Thank you. 1623 02:19:37,330 --> 02:19:42,830 Okay. Thank you. Item 11 matters presented by the mayor or council members. I'll start to my left. 1624 02:19:44,410 --> 02:19:44,910 Mayor Putin. 1625 02:19:45,130 --> 02:19:45,930 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1626 02:19:46,090 --> 02:19:49,890 I would just once again request that we adjourn in honor of the memory of 1627 02:19:50,330 --> 02:19:55,050 Akite Patel. This family members are here tonight as well. 1628 02:19:55,810 --> 02:19:59,390 I won't go through everything I had said before, but he was a wonderful young man, 1629 02:20:04,530 --> 02:20:04,550 a wonderful 1630 02:20:04,550 --> 02:20:11,350 very pleased that we were to adjourn a his honor. We'll do that. To my right. 1631 02:20:11,890 --> 02:20:16,990 Councillor Mayer. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thanksgiving is almost 1632 02:20:16,990 --> 02:20:20,830 upon us and I want to wish our Rancho Santa Margarita community a very happy 1633 02:20:20,830 --> 02:20:25,610 thanksgiving. I'm especially thankful for the opportunity to serve on the City Council. 1634 02:20:26,170 --> 02:20:31,270 I'm grateful for our wonderful hardworking city staff and especially to our City Manager who's 1635 02:20:31,270 --> 02:20:35,850 It's always available to answer my many questions and explain complex matters. 1636 02:20:36,410 --> 02:20:39,030 Jennifer, your wisdom and knowledge continually amazes me. 1637 02:20:39,450 --> 02:20:43,950 I'm also thankful to my colleagues for their kindness, advice, and grace as I continue 1638 02:20:43,950 --> 02:20:45,090 to learn in this role. 1639 02:20:45,710 --> 02:20:50,870 And finally, I am thankful for the incredible residents and volunteers of this community 1640 02:20:50,870 --> 02:20:55,970 who stay engaged and truly care about baking, ranch, and Santa Marguerita, such a special 1641 02:20:55,970 --> 02:20:56,730 place to live. 1642 02:20:56,730 --> 02:21:01,810 I wish all of you a wonderful Thanksgiving surrounded by your family, friends, and great food. 1643 02:21:02,110 --> 02:21:03,130 Thank you. 1644 02:21:03,610 --> 02:21:04,790 Thank you very much. 1645 02:21:05,490 --> 02:21:07,270 So that brings us to adjournment. 1646 02:21:08,270 --> 02:21:12,450 The next regular meeting of the City Council will be held Wednesday, December 10, 1647 02:21:12,550 --> 02:21:16,450 25, 7 PM right here in our City Council chambers. 1648 02:21:16,930 --> 02:21:21,330 And as previously mentioned, we're going to adjourn tonight in memory of Mr. Patel. 1649 02:21:22,010 --> 02:21:24,190 May God rest his soul. This meeting is adjourned.